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| 00:35.43 | Cardinal_ | hey - i remember seeing a youtube video ages ago (possibly on sc2mapster.com) where someone mass created a bunch of items (data) through the trigger editor? |
| 00:35.57 | Cardinal_ | Maybe some custom function where he adds an object to the catalogue and then sets all it's fields? |
| 00:44.50 | JademusSreg | Perhaps. |
| 00:45.08 | JademusSreg | But it's not multi-instancable. |
| 00:45.29 | JademusSreg | And you don't add objects to the catalog dynamically, you change values. |
| 00:45.52 | JademusSreg | So you'd need to create the objects you need before hand from the data editor. |
| 00:46.21 | Ahli | or define items by their custom values like me |
| 00:46.44 | JademusSreg | Also a good idea. |
| 00:47.22 | JademusSreg | But using catalogs to dynamically assign item properties sounds like a great deal of trouble. |
| 00:50.36 | Ahli | but you will lose the ability to differentiate between items with that |
| 00:51.29 | JademusSreg | It would lose multi-instancability. |
| 00:51.48 | JademusSreg | All item objects of that id would be affected by the catalog changes. |
| 00:52.02 | JademusSreg | So you'd need one object per item instance. |
| 00:52.14 | JademusSreg | Huge pain in the ass. |
| 01:00.54 | Cardinal_ | I see. I just remember seeing a youtube video (ages ago) and being impressed. |
| 01:00.57 | Cardinal_ | Guess it was just spun that way. |
| 01:01.42 | Cardinal_ | He literally had a trigger which ran a bunch of functions like ("Shortsword","Weapon","3","12","1","shortsword.dds","30",) |
| 01:01.59 | Cardinal_ | defining all sorts of jazz |
| 01:02.26 | JademusSreg | Neato. Either entirely dialog based or he had a bunch of item objects defined in the editor with sequential ids. |
| 01:03.31 | JademusSreg | Conversation data, on the other hand, is pretty flexible. |
| 01:03.46 | Cardinal_ | What is conversation data? |
| 01:03.56 | Cardinal_ | Heard of it, seen it, never known what it is or what it does. |
| 01:04.49 | JademusSreg | I'm not entirely sure for what it is intended, but it seems to be able to store arbitrary data in a way not entirely unlike dynamic memory use. |
| 01:05.18 | Cardinal_ | Nifty. |
| 01:05.43 | Cardinal_ | Okay, I can't seem to change an actors UI wireframe or whatever icon it is that appears when the unit is in Cargo |
| 01:05.57 | JademusSreg | Friend of mine uses it to make databases. |
| 01:07.30 | Cardinal_ | Nevermind, got it :S |
| 01:07.36 | Cardinal_ | I swear my editor is glitching on me |
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| 01:21.08 | tampa1adam | so u cant upgrade a unit's vision height? :( |
| 01:22.35 | Ahli | you can morph unit to another unit. so in a way you can |
| 01:24.30 | Cardinal_ | or you can add a behaviour to that unit which attaches a completely undetectable observer to that unit :p |
| 01:26.51 | tampa1adam | thanks to you both |
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| 01:56.12 | Cardinal_ | Can anyone tell me where the hell I can find Units>Critters> in the mpq's for SC2? |
| 01:56.43 | Cardinal_ | I've been through about 6 different patches, all 4 core dependencies (liberty, libertymulti, liberty story, liberty campaign setc) |
| 01:56.51 | Cardinal_ | and have only managed to find RedstoneLavaCritters.m3 |
| 01:58.34 | Cardinal_ | Nevermind... found it... |
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| 02:06.53 | Cardinal_ | Is there a way to disable the way in which a group selection shades wireframes based on health? Ie: Instead of showing a green to red scale (terran) it just shows a normal coloured image? |
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| 07:19.26 | Demo_ | Mmmm, yes, quite. |
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| 07:19.39 | JademusSreg | I concur. |
| 07:22.53 | Demo_ | you contest? |
| 07:22.59 | Demo_ | GET IT? |
| 07:23.12 | JademusSreg | HAHA |
| 07:23.20 | JademusSreg | THAT'S SO AWESOME I COULD FUCK MYSELF. |
| 07:23.32 | JademusSreg | Ah, that made me laugh. |
| 07:24.05 | Demo_ | I hope not as hard as you led me to believe. |
| 07:24.24 | JademusSreg | Enough to make myself cough. |
| 07:25.30 | tampa1adam | who's the best mapper here? |
| 07:25.52 | Demo_ | That person, doesn't exist. |
| 07:25.58 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 07:29.12 | Demo_ | But,,,If I had to pick a favorite? That person, doesn't exist. |
| 07:29.51 | Demo_ | In all seriousness, best mapper based on what |
| 07:30.03 | Demo_ | knowledge base, most popular, whatz? |
| 07:31.07 | JademusSreg | Terrainer, style, best fashion sense? |
| 07:31.24 | JademusSreg | Sorry, those are all pretty much the same shit. |
| 07:32.38 | Demo_ | Nah, they're about as different as mathematician, math professor, rapist. |
| 07:32.47 | JademusSreg | Precisely. |
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| 07:34.10 | Demo_ | Lol Stephen Colbert has 5% of the South Carolina primary lol |
| 07:34.22 | Demo_ | over jon hunstmen |
| 07:34.55 | JademusSreg | Excellent. |
| 07:35.07 | Demo_ | Are you an americans? |
| 07:35.14 | JademusSreg | If only we could fill all public offices with comedians and satirists. |
| 07:35.32 | JademusSreg | Probably. |
| 07:35.38 | Demo_ | Ron Paul 2012 IMO |
| 07:36.34 | Demo_ | HBU? |
| 07:37.32 | JademusSreg | http://ashleyfmiller.wordpress.com/2011/12/11/why-does-anyone-like-ron-paul/ |
| 07:38.48 | JademusSreg | Racist evangelical christian divorced from reality. Can't say that sounds palatable. |
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| 07:42.16 | Helral | meow |
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| 08:06.15 | Demo_ | Anyone is test with me? |
| 08:08.01 | JademusSreg | Busy writing. |
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| 11:00.43 | MKmisfit | anybody got a mapmaking problem |
| 11:03.23 | MKmisfit | zzz dont act like im the only one that does programming at 6am |
| 11:03.35 | MKmisfit | im looking for someone to take over my mario kart map |
| 11:03.45 | MKmisfit | script experience required |
| 11:04.57 | MKmisfit | or, make an awesome LOOKing mario kart race map, with no cars, send it to me ill add cars and everything (weapons, make obstacles move) |
| 11:05.02 | MKmisfit | jumps... |
| 11:05.07 | Helral|Work | acts like he is the only one. |
| 11:05.29 | Helral|Work | ;p |
| 11:07.07 | MKmisfit | name of map is SC Rally on NA if u want to try it |
| 11:07.24 | MKmisfit | i never released it to EU! |
| 11:07.29 | Helral|Work | can't try it then since it's noon here and I'm at work ;p |
| 11:07.30 | MKmisfit | anyone got eu? |
| 11:08.29 | Helral|Work | yes to that question and no to the next one ;p (unless you change your next question) |
| 11:08.45 | MKmisfit | dang |
| 11:08.49 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 11:10.48 | MKmisfit | wonder if swtor servers are back up yet (doubt it) |
| 11:11.21 | MKmisfit | i have a chess AI that i ported to sc2, battle chess lol |
| 11:11.29 | MKmisfit | never realsed that on na or eu |
| 11:12.58 | MKmisfit | omg they are up |
| 11:13.41 | MKmisfit | they were only down for 3 hours with a patch and all |
| 11:15.55 | Helral|Work | just wondering misfit, are only misfits playing swtor? |
| 11:39.16 | tampa1adam | 00:00:09.81 WARNING: [ 76 2] CActorModel[SporeCannonBuild] Model created via Cache; ModelLink[SporeCannonBuild]; Failure to initialize. |
| 11:39.16 | tampa1adam | 00:00:09.81 WARNING: SporeCannon is missing a buildable ability |
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| 12:46.52 | MKmisfit | <tampa1adam> 00:00:09.81 WARNING: SporeCannon is missing a buildable ability --- i think there is actually a builable ability for you to give it |
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| 16:18.23 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
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| 16:21.31 | Ahli | no u don't. go back to bed. |
| 16:21.43 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 16:22.26 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 16:23.23 | JademusSreg | Sleep is time spent not being as awesome as possible (not counting the content of dreamy time). |
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| 18:04.30 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCoLdWn1ZzU |
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| 18:56.21 | JademusSreg | Which is the least disgusting of these images? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Appendix_vermiformis.jpg http://www.californiaivf.com/Appendix.jpg http://www.lapscope.com/female-anatomy/images-female/jgeorgemd_appendix2sm.jpg |
| 18:57.57 | Xaragoth | disgust ALL the users? |
| 18:58.09 | RipperRoo | !voteban JademusSreg |
| 18:58.13 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:59.51 | JademusSreg | That's not an answer to my questuion, though. |
| 18:59.54 | JademusSreg | *question |
| 19:00.20 | Ahli | I would say the third one |
| 19:01.36 | RipperRoo | guts & gore .. yeay :S |
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| 19:03.10 | JademusSreg | They're just organs. |
| 19:03.50 | Siretu | Is it just me or does changing the size of an array reset all references to their indices? |
| 19:04.01 | JademusSreg | In GUI? |
| 19:04.04 | Siretu | Yeah |
| 19:04.20 | JademusSreg | Dunno, I don't use it. But that sounds plausible. |
| 19:04.30 | Siretu | So if I have MyArray[(Triggering Player)] and change the size of MyArray, it'll change MyArray[(Triggering Player)] to MyArray[0] |
| 19:04.34 | Ahli | if you make a 8 a 9, everything stays fine |
| 19:04.45 | Ahli | oh |
| 19:05.10 | Siretu | Because all 55 references to array indices that I had suddenly switched to 0... |
| 19:05.22 | Siretu | Not funny |
| 19:06.05 | Ahli | ok, I'm never using triggering player because I like having a neutral 0. I'm using variables, parameters or integer arithmetics as the index definition and those aren't resetting. |
| 19:06.33 | Siretu | Oh, triggering player was just an example. In this case, I was mostly using variables |
| 19:08.10 | Ahli | did you accidentally hit 0 in the array size definition or unchecked array? |
| 19:08.31 | Siretu | Okay, I finished setting all of them back to their original values before the reset but I swear I probably missed one somewhere |
| 19:09.17 | Ahli | you can try to search for "[0]" to find them and check all of them |
| 19:09.24 | Siretu | Could've been because I erased 16(the original size) and replaced it with 20. That would've caused it to be nothing("") for a while which it might take as 0 |
| 19:09.33 | Siretu | Oh, good idea |
| 19:10.20 | Ahli | that might have been it. I'm always using the increase/decrease buttons next to the field |
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| 19:29.17 | JademusSreg | Thar we go. I needed a decent appendix image for this: http://voidandvision.blogspot.com/2012/01/on-modding-vermiform-appendix-of-gaming.html |
| 19:32.04 | RipperRoo | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3_kqoSYlRJY/SlRhf-EyXTI/AAAAAAAAAAM/DJsLMPKjc10/S220/nickfantastic.jpg is that u ? :D |
| 19:32.19 | JademusSreg | Yep. I am fucking gorgeous. |
| 19:32.48 | RipperRoo | i dont think so tim |
| 19:48.52 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 19:49.00 | JademusSreg | It's okay, you're not my target demographic. |
| 20:02.55 | RipperRoo | that was not what u said yesterday ._. |
| 20:03.13 | JademusSreg | Haha, wat? |
| 20:05.09 | RipperRoo | im just silly sorry :D |
| 20:05.22 | JademusSreg | Ah. Yes. =D |
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| 20:44.43 | Demo_ | Who is your target demographic? |
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| 22:09.11 | Ahli | anyone wants to design 36 buff images? ;D |
| 22:11.33 | RipperRoo | Not since you killed my hero :D |
| 22:36.06 | JademusSreg | Haha |
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| 22:53.17 | ReY | hello |
| 22:53.28 | ReY | sixen are you here? |
| 22:54.13 | ReY | i have a question about curse.cokm |
| 22:54.17 | ReY | curse.com :P |
| 22:56.27 | ReY | oh well |
| 22:56.41 | ReY | anyone else here? i have a problem with my map :( |
| 22:56.50 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 22:57.17 | ReY | some dialog items get greyed out(disabled) randomly :( |
| 22:57.30 | ReY | when i dont even have a disable trigger in the whole map |
| 22:57.33 | ReY | for that dialogs |
| 22:57.43 | JademusSreg | Action. |
| 22:57.50 | ReY | ? |
| 22:57.51 | JademusSreg | A disable dialog item action. |
| 22:58.00 | ReY | yep |
| 22:58.06 | ReY | i checked overview manager even |
| 22:58.08 | JademusSreg | Triggers are an object that calls actions. =D |
| 22:58.21 | ReY | no disable action is there in the whole map |
| 22:58.30 | ReY | sry :p |
| 22:58.38 | A1win | what type of items are they? |
| 22:58.47 | ReY | 2 of them are buttons |
| 22:58.59 | ReY | and one is a border of a dialog |
| 22:59.16 | ReY | i have 7 buttons in an array per player |
| 22:59.38 | ReY | 2-dimensional array [player count] [1-7] |
| 22:59.41 | ReY | like that |
| 22:59.43 | JademusSreg | Perhaps you set them to Desaturate. |
| 22:59.45 | A1win | have you made all the triggers yourself or using some library or something? |
| 22:59.47 | ReY | every player has 7 buttons |
| 23:00.12 | ReY | and button 2 and 4 get disabled for player 1 only, buttons 1,3,5+ for player1 aree fine, all buttons for other players are fine |
| 23:00.24 | ReY | they are done without a libary |
| 23:01.02 | ReY | jade, the buttons get disabled (cant click them anymore) |
| 23:01.19 | A1win | well, I can't think of any other action that would disable a dialog item, but there probably is one if you don't have the actual disable action... look through everything that refers to those dialog items |
| 23:01.32 | JademusSreg | Pastebin the actions where you create them. |
| 23:01.32 | ReY | the funny think is: when im alone in the map (only player1) then its all fine |
| 23:01.46 | ReY | but as soon as there are more players when the dialog buttons for player1 get messed up |
| 23:01.50 | ReY | kk sec |
| 23:03.42 | ReY | http://pastebin.com/zGaSPdCC |
| 23:04.40 | JademusSreg | And describe the symptoms of the problem again? |
| 23:04.43 | JademusSreg | I may have an idea. |
| 23:04.50 | ReY | line 8 it is |
| 23:04.56 | ReY | ok so |
| 23:05.10 | ReY | its a "hand" with 8 cards per player |
| 23:05.15 | ReY | each card as a discard button |
| 23:05.23 | ReY | when im aklone in the map its all fine |
| 23:05.56 | ReY | when there are more than 1 player then the discard button of card 2 and 4 get disabled for player 1 randomly during the map |
| 23:06.38 | ReY | the array of the buttons is a 2-dimensional array with the length of the playercount in one dimension |
| 23:06.43 | ReY | and then the 7 cards in the other dimension |
| 23:07.04 | ReY | so with 2 players it should be an array with 2x7 |
| 23:07.18 | ReY | and 1,2 and 1,4 get disabled |
| 23:07.23 | ReY | rest is fine |
| 23:08.14 | ReY | actually do the array start at 0 or 1? |
| 23:08.17 | JademusSreg | "Randomly" is probably the wrong word there. Just have yet to see the cause. |
| 23:08.24 | JademusSreg | Arrays actually start at 0. |
| 23:08.45 | ReY | yea ofc, "seemingly randomly without an obvious cause while playing" |
| 23:08.47 | ReY | ^^ |
| 23:08.51 | ReY | ok |
| 23:08.56 | JademusSreg | GUI arrays allocate an extra index. |
| 23:09.26 | JademusSreg | GUI int[32] allocates 33 indexes, while galaxy int[32] allocates 32 indexes from 0 to 31. |
| 23:09.35 | ReY | kk |
| 23:09.41 | ReY | its all done with the gui |
| 23:09.50 | JademusSreg | I figured, form the paste. =D |
| 23:10.03 | ReY | one general question: the line "Variable - Set Card - Discard[Player][(Picked integer)] = (Last created dialog item)" |
| 23:10.24 | ReY | the "Player" variable is preset by the galaxy editor right? |
| 23:10.28 | ReY | its always the current player |
| 23:10.31 | ReY | or not? |
| 23:10.46 | JademusSreg | Clarify? |
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| 23:10.55 | pirate | yarr |
| 23:10.56 | JademusSreg | You mean like Triggering Player? |
| 23:11.06 | ReY | yea like that |
| 23:11.08 | ReY | ^^ |
| 23:11.19 | ReY | hm |
| 23:11.23 | ReY | well lemme clarify |
| 23:11.27 | A1win | err, what is the Player variable in your example? |
| 23:11.36 | JademusSreg | I figure it's a local var in his example. |
| 23:11.47 | A1win | yeah but that question seemed odd |
| 23:11.47 | Sixen | what's up rey? |
| 23:11.48 | ReY | ok that might be a problem^^ |
| 23:12.03 | ReY | i didnt do the whole map myself i have to admit |
| 23:12.08 | JademusSreg | Ah, haha,. |
| 23:12.14 | JademusSreg | That -would- be problematic. |
| 23:12.17 | ReY | ^^ |
| 23:12.26 | ReY | well i re-wrote over 50% ov the code anyways |
| 23:13.12 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/wFm9yD3U |
| 23:13.44 | JademusSreg | Always the best way to handle groupd of players. |
| 23:14.12 | ReY | the thing is all those dialogs are stored in that 2-dimensional arrays where the first index is the current player and the second index is the "card" (one of the 8 dialogs for that player) |
| 23:15.43 | ReY | hm |
| 23:15.44 | JademusSreg | If a button was missing, it would make more sense than a button being disabled, based on what you've described. |
| 23:15.50 | ReY | yes |
| 23:15.57 | ReY | and ONLY button 2 and 4 |
| 23:16.31 | ReY | while every actions on those dialogs are always done to every "cards" (pick each integer from 0 to 7) |
| 23:16.37 | A1win | what do you mean by "current player"? |
| 23:17.47 | JademusSreg | We may need to see more of the trigger to diagnose the problem. |
| 23:18.36 | ReY | hm sec |
| 23:19.04 | ReY | http://pastebin.com/sUSqtTZ2 |
| 23:19.28 | ReY | thats the whole triogger |
| 23:20.07 | ReY | in the first half there is a protoss style "mana bar" |
| 23:20.09 | ReY | created |
| 23:20.41 | JademusSreg | There is a Player variable, but no indication of where it is assigned. |
| 23:20.53 | A1win | is it a global variable? if so, it doesn't make much sense |
| 23:20.54 | ReY | true |
| 23:20.55 | ReY | its global |
| 23:21.07 | ReY | its global and used in 95% of all triggers |
| 23:21.25 | JademusSreg | When do you assign its value? |
| 23:21.26 | A1win | I think your implementation is just horribly wrong :x |
| 23:21.39 | A1win | you should be using action definitions instead of triggers, because triggers can't accept parameters |
| 23:21.41 | JademusSreg | I mean, a global player var is a real mess. |
| 23:21.47 | A1win | so your workaround is using a global variable as the "parameter" |
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| 23:22.06 | JademusSreg | A1 is spot on. |
| 23:22.32 | JademusSreg | A custom action that take a player parameter would be much better than passing a player globally. |
| 23:22.59 | ReY | here is another example of the used "player" variable as the first index of arrays |
| 23:23.00 | ReY | http://pastebin.com/i9C5mbb8 |
| 23:23.16 | ReY | thats basically when a "discard" button is pressed |
| 23:23.40 | ReY | the card gets discarded so it hides the card(with its image,button,textlabels on it) |
| 23:23.47 | ReY | and the discard button itself |
| 23:25.28 | ReY | the whole decks are saved in such arrays, for example when a player picks a deck then there is a trigger which loads the correct cards of that deck into the "active deck of the player" |
| 23:25.42 | ReY | a deck has 24 cards |
| 23:25.46 | JademusSreg | The question is where does Player get set? |
| 23:26.07 | ReY | so its like Card - main dialog [player][card1] |
| 23:26.16 | ReY | wait ill check |
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| 23:27.04 | JademusSreg | The first thing you ought to do is fix anything using a global player, change it to a custom action definition, just pass the player value through the custom action parameter. |
| 23:27.34 | JademusSreg | It's plausible there is a conflict due to the global player. |
| 23:27.57 | ReY | hm |
| 23:28.25 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 23:28.29 | ReY | there are around 12 arrays or so which use the player variable as first index and they are all working so its weird |
| 23:28.41 | ReY | its in 95% of the triggers as i said |
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| 23:29.55 | A1win | it might just be a coincidence that they are working |
| 23:30.08 | A1win | there might be only a very small chance that it gets screwed up |
| 23:30.31 | ReY | there we go |
| 23:30.33 | ReY | http://pastebin.com/ELq237Nk |
| 23:31.05 | ReY | i guess the first thing i could improve is changing the "12" to the actual player count in the map |
| 23:31.12 | A1win | yeah... those triggers create a new thread, it might start handling the next player before it's finished handling the current one |
| 23:31.32 | A1win | you should really use action calls instead of "run trigger" |
| 23:31.38 | ReY | so i should add wait time between the trigger calls? |
| 23:31.44 | A1win | no |
| 23:31.45 | A1win | :P |
| 23:31.47 | ReY | ^^ |
| 23:32.08 | A1win | learn to use action definitions, they aren't difficult to understand |
| 23:32.39 | ReY | hmm? |
| 23:32.42 | A1win | you use them just like "run trigger" except that they can accept parameters, and they don't necessarily need to create a new thread (running a trigger always creates a new thread) |
| 23:33.03 | ReY | hm kk |
| 23:33.37 | A1win | hmm or actually the "don't wait until it finishes" does that, if you just change those to "wait until it finishes" it'd be more accurate... but still a bad habit |
| 23:33.43 | A1win | *more reliable |
| 23:33.49 | ReY | so yeah you can see the "Player Hand - Init" (the first trigger with the creation of the discard button) is used here with the player variable running from 1 to 12 |
| 23:34.00 | ReY | ok |
| 23:34.02 | ReY | so |
| 23:34.16 | ReY | what do you suggest as a "good" habit? :D |
| 23:34.24 | A1win | using action definitions >_> |
| 23:34.30 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 23:34.40 | A1win | take Trigger - Run Player Hand - Init (Check Conditions, Don't Wait until it finishes) for example |
| 23:35.06 | A1win | make a new action definition called "Player Hand - Init" or whatever, copy the contents of the Player Hand - Init trigger into that action |
| 23:35.16 | A1win | make a parameter for the action called Player, type integer |
| 23:35.54 | ReY | hm |
| 23:35.55 | A1win | then in the "pick each integer from 1 to 12" loop, just add the action there (the one you named Player Hand - Init or whatever) and set its parameter to Picked Integer |
| 23:36.16 | A1win | so you'll have something like: pick each integer from 1 to 12 { |
| 23:36.23 | A1win | Player Hand - Init(Picked Integer) |
| 23:36.30 | A1win | Resources - Init(Picked Integer) |
| 23:36.35 | ReY | yeah ok i understand |
| 23:36.36 | A1win | Unit Click - Init(Picked Integer) |
| 23:36.38 | A1win | etc. |
| 23:36.42 | JademusSreg | I wouldn't advise ever using Pick Each Anything loops, because they don't like nesting, but that's no high priority. |
| 23:36.47 | ReY | like functions or methods |
| 23:36.54 | A1win | mm |
| 23:37.06 | A1win | JademusSreg, I had to learn that the hard way =p |
| 23:37.11 | ReY | ^^ |
| 23:37.14 | A1win | I first thought it was a recursion depth limit |
| 23:37.18 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 23:37.22 | ReY | ^^ |
| 23:37.33 | ReY | hehe so what do you advise then jade? :) |
| 23:37.43 | A1win | For Each Integer <variable> |
| 23:37.55 | JademusSreg | If you have programming experience, I would suggest using SBeier's Galaxy++ language extension / script editor. |
| 23:38.03 | JademusSreg | And yes, for each nests well. |
| 23:38.04 | Ahli | look up: http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Foxoak+St,+Cradley+Heath,+West+Midlands+B64,+United+Kingdom&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=13.283564,27.817383&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Foxoak+St,+Cradley+Heath,+West+Midlands+B64,+United+Kingdom&ll=52.470103,-2.08251&spn=0.003366,0.006791&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=52.470165,-2.082675&panoid=BI32I2U_eu0IucKblb4Tqg&cbp=12,306.41,,0,12.09 |
| 23:38.12 | ReY | oh btw alwin: the custom action parameter |
| 23:38.19 | ReY | how do i use it in the action definition |
| 23:38.21 | ReY | =? |
| 23:38.54 | A1win | hmm? |
| 23:39.08 | A1win | the same way you choose a value for something |
| 23:39.17 | A1win | there is Function, Parameter, Variable, Value, Preset tabs |
| 23:39.23 | ReY | i have programming experience (studying computer science, software engineering) but im afraid its alot of work to get used to the script editor |
| 23:39.32 | A1win | just pick Parameter and you get a list |
| 23:39.37 | ReY | kk |
| 23:39.54 | JademusSreg | Scripting is cake. Cheesecake. |
| 23:40.33 | A1win | yeah it just feels like a big step to learn, but it really isn't... I was about to start using galaxy++ but then I stopped mapping again |
| 23:40.40 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 23:41.03 | A1win | and for the current maps I have I'm probably not going to convert them to script since the amount of triggers they have is so insane |
| 23:42.04 | ReY | t-t |
| 23:42.39 | ReY | my map has 213 triggers |
| 23:42.42 | ReY | is that alot? |
| 23:42.46 | ReY | really have no idea |
| 23:42.48 | ReY | ^^ |
| 23:43.16 | A1win | you should only have *triggers* when you need an event, everything else should be action definitions and function definitions |
| 23:43.17 | ReY | many triggers are also very similar because they are just triggers to spawn one unit |
| 23:43.25 | ReY | ^^ |
| 23:43.43 | JademusSreg | That's terrible, haha. |
| 23:43.59 | JademusSreg | You could make a more generic action to handle those. |
| 23:44.09 | ReY | like this? |
| 23:44.10 | ReY | http://pastebin.com/15jKi2Rf |
| 23:44.15 | Ahli | hey, that's what I did first too. Then I found action definitions ;D |
| 23:44.37 | A1win | you shouldn't use Triggering player inside an action definition btw ;p |
| 23:45.09 | JademusSreg | Yeah, pass player as a parameter. |
| 23:45.11 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 23:45.14 | A1win | anything that is generated for the event in a trigger should be passed as a parameter to any actions it calls |
| 23:45.42 | Ahli | triggering player is terrible anyway because it doesn't stay on its value after waits. But I think triggering unit does. |
| 23:46.23 | A1win | it probably won't if something else uses it before that wait ends |
| 23:46.24 | JademusSreg | Always put that shit in a variable, pass it as a parameter. |
| 23:46.50 | ReY | hm |
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| 23:48.16 | ReY | so your advice is to rewrite the whole code using the script editor and then come back when the problem persists? |
| 23:49.10 | A1win | ;p |
| 23:49.18 | ReY | :o |
| 23:49.41 | A1win | just what JademusSreg said above |
| 23:49.45 | A1win | < JademusSreg> Always put that shit in a variable, pass it as a parameter. |
| 23:49.56 | A1win | you don't need script editor for that |
| 23:50.19 | ReY | lol i spent like 3 weeks rewriting alot of code in the GUI because of about 20 different bugs from the old mapmaker and this is the only problem left |
| 23:50.28 | A1win | ;x |
| 23:50.37 | ReY | would be very uncool if that single problem causes so much trouble haha |
| 23:50.57 | ReY | well i guess ill try it the action definition way first |
| 23:50.59 | ReY | :P |
| 23:51.04 | A1win | well, try setting the trigger run actions in the loop with Wait for it to finish |
| 23:51.13 | ReY | kk^^ |
| 23:51.27 | A1win | but it won't be a perfect fix, if it even fixes anything |
| 23:51.52 | ReY | oh btw do you think the debugger is quite useless aswell? |
| 23:51.59 | ReY | compared to a "normal" debugger |
| 23:52.08 | ReY | you cant really see variables changes etc |
| 23:52.19 | A1win | well it's not useless, just not as useful as it could be |
| 23:52.38 | A1win | anyway I need to sleep, nn |
| 23:52.44 | ReY | hehe ok |
| 23:52.49 | ReY | thanks for the help ! |
| 23:52.51 | ReY | good night |
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