IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20111228

00:26.15JademusSregYes.
00:26.24JademusSregSet the shape position manually.
00:27.24JademusSregBy which I mean you can set the XY to anything you damn well please.
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00:27.59________________ya i jus changed 2 putting in numbers, it just wouldnt let me drag the parts of the region over
00:28.03________________but manually worked
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01:09.44________________the food cap is impossible to change OTF right?
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03:49.07Cardinal_yo yo anyone home?
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14:33.02TheuSssomeone there who's good with layout files?
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17:12.33JademusSregI awaken.
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17:28.36ReYhello
17:29.09ReYanyone here who could help me with moving UI elements in my map ? :)
17:29.19ReYbasically jsut the info panel from the bottom to the top
17:32.31JademusSregEasy.
17:32.44JademusSregChange the anchors.
17:33.30ReYyea t-t i guess i need a bit more detailed help :P
17:33.46ReYi've read the tutorial from helral so i know the basics
17:34.50JademusSregYou'd change the anchor on the infocard from Bottom to Top. =D
17:39.34ReYwell i have that InfoPanel.SC2Layout file
17:39.52ReYthis is what it says at the top
17:39.53ReY<PROTECTED>
17:39.55ReY<PROTECTED>
17:39.57ReY<PROTECTED>
17:39.59ReY<PROTECTED>
17:40.22JademusSregYou really shouldn't modify templates.
17:40.38ReYhm?
17:40.59JademusSregThat's a template.
17:41.15ReYi would make a new layout file and import that to the map
17:41.29JademusSregYou should instead modify the -instance-, that is where the template is used in the GameUI.SC2Layout
17:42.03ReYkk i have the GameUI.SC2Layout open now
17:42.05ReYlemme see
17:42.36ReYkk this is the infopanel part out of GameUI.SC2Layout:
17:42.40ReY<PROTECTED>
17:42.42ReY<PROTECTED>
17:42.43ReY<PROTECTED>
17:42.45ReY<PROTECTED>
17:42.47ReY<PROTECTED>
17:42.48ReY<PROTECTED>
17:42.50ReY<PROTECTED>
17:42.51ReY<PROTECTED>
17:43.29ReYso if i want to have it centered at the top of the screen then i change "Bottom" to "Top" and what else?
17:44.07ReYand the "-20" to "20" i guess
17:44.27JademusSregNaw. You'll need to override the Bottom anchor to reference self, then add a new Anchor for Top.
17:45.23ReYto reference self?
17:46.08JademusSreg$this
17:46.26JademusSregAs in relative="this"
17:46.34JademusSreg$this
17:46.35JademusSregHaha
17:46.50ReYso in my new layout file i put: <Anchor side="Bottom" relative="$this" pos="Max" offset="-20"/>
17:47.09ReYand <Anchor side="Top" relative="$this" pos="Max" offset="20"/>
17:47.12ReY?
17:47.21JademusSregNaw, remove the offset.
17:47.31ReYpos too?
17:47.49JademusSregRemember, this is overriding; all the values in the original are retained, and only explicit values are added / overwritten.
17:48.02JademusSregOverwriting -20 with -20 is pointless. =D
17:48.10ReY^^
17:48.31JademusSregTop needs relative="$parent"
17:48.50ReYok
17:49.23ReYoffset 20 so that its not right at the top of the screen?
17:49.32ReY<Anchor side="Top" relative="$parent" pos="Max" offset="20"/>
17:49.43ReY<Anchor side="Bottom" relative="$this"/>
17:49.47ReYthose two lines
17:49.50ReYright?
17:51.49JademusSregMight wanna set Bottom pos="Min".
17:52.46JademusSregAnd you can tweak the offsets as needed. Just to be safe, set Bottom offset="0"
17:53.19JademusSregThat way you can be certain you'll only need to mess with the Top offset while tweaking.
17:55.22ReY<desc>
17:55.24ReY<Frame type="InfoPanel" name="GameUI/UIContainer/ConsoleUIContainer/InfoPanel" file="GameUI">
17:55.25ReY<PROTECTED>
17:55.27ReY<PROTECTED>
17:55.29ReY</Frame>
17:55.30ReY</desc>
17:55.32ReYso that would be my whole sc2layout file?
17:55.57JademusSregYes, that appears correct.
17:56.18JademusSregOh wait.
17:56.31JademusSregSet Top pos="Max". Sorry I overlooked that.
17:56.44ReYwhat does the Min/Max mean anyways?
17:57.13JademusSregMin/Max/Mid
17:57.45JademusSregDefines how it is positioned relative to the anchor, I would expect.
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17:58.11JademusSregNotice for Left and Right, pos is Mid.
17:58.21ReYyep
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17:59.23ReYoh well ill try to import that
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17:59.48ReYthanks for your help so far :D
18:00.29JademusSregNo problem.
18:10.09ReYkk imported
18:10.12ReYworked so far
18:10.20ReYpublished it now, trying ingame now
18:13.54ReYhm
18:13.56ReYdidnt work
18:14.35ReYit was done with dialogs before i guess thats the problem
18:15.03JademusSregIn what way did it not work?
18:15.32ReYhm well nothign changed
18:15.46ReYi guess thats because the whole UI was hidden from the try with the dialogs
18:15.53JademusSregDid you reference it correctly in the GameUI data in the data editor?
18:15.58ReYi did yes
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18:16.37JademusSregWhat have dialogs to do with it? You mention them./
18:16.54ReYDefault SC2 UI Settings --->UI: Custom Layout Files      (CustomInfoPanel.Sc2Layout)
18:17.02ReYthats what i did in data editor
18:17.09ReYshould be correct
18:17.42ReYwell i didnt make the map from scratch, i just got it now, the previous mapmaker moved the infopanel using dialogs and triggers
18:18.04ReYhowever after a certain patch that didnt work anymore (there is an empty dialog box at the top)
18:19.00ReYcreate dialog at top --> create label for dialog (InfoPanel/InfoPanelTemplate)
18:19.12ReYthat was the way it was done before and that is not working anymore
18:20.28ReYcreate image for dialog instead of label*
18:21.01JademusSregAlright. So if it's not working, I expect it is safe to delete that nonsense.
18:21.51ReYsure, doing that now, have to look for the correct thing to delete (the triggers which hide the UI)
18:22.56JademusSregWhy would you publish before testing?
18:27.03ReYidk, thats just how i did it before
18:27.13ReYi guess ill look up the editor testing function
18:27.14ReY^^
18:27.44ReYwhere can i change the resolution of the testing?
18:29.04JademusSregPreferences
18:29.14JademusSregFile -> Preferences
18:30.59ReYok
18:31.50ReYok kind of working
18:31.58ReYthe info panel is at the top
18:32.21ReYbut without a box around it, i would like to see it in a box
18:32.24ReYAND:
18:33.20ReYeverything at the bottom is still there: minimap, empty boy where the infopanel was before, unit portrait, command card
18:33.33ReYhow can i get rid of all those?^^
18:33.50JademusSregYou can hide them from the layout file.
18:34.08JademusSregAdd a Visible="false" element, iirc.
18:34.23JademusSreg<Visible="false"/>
18:36.11ReYto every other panel right?
18:36.40ReYminimappanel, unitportraitpanel etc
18:36.51JademusSregYeah.
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18:40.14ReYits <Visible val="false"/>
18:40.19ReYshould work =)
18:41.42ReYmeh there are alot of panels and i dont know which is what
18:41.47ReYWorldPanel for example^^
18:42.33JademusSregTrial and error. Hide what you know you don't want, text locally, then repeat until you got it all.
18:42.38JademusSreg*test
18:43.21ReYah i only need to look at the panels under "UIContainer" i think
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19:15.48ReYhm cant get them to disappear
19:15.53ReYnothign
19:18.15ReYnvm stupid mistake
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19:35.24UloseTheGamehey anyone here?
19:36.10ReYnah doesnt work :(
19:36.32UloseTheGamehttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2549105769?page=1 months ago I posted my thesis on the popularity system
19:37.11UloseTheGamesuddenly it got bumped and im being attacked by scrubs who don't understand my post...
19:37.23UloseTheGamemy theory was simple
19:38.21UloseTheGameif we could take a proactive effort to try new maps, the spirit would spread and people would effectively filter good maps to the top
19:39.02UloseTheGamebut the 6th page is cluttered with idiots who dont understand the idea
19:43.15UloseTheGameugh, im so sick of retards
19:43.30UloseTheGamei think like seven people who read the thread got the pointy
19:43.32UloseTheGamepoint
19:44.02UloseTheGameI never wanted to "point it out to them" because they wouldn't "get it" anyway
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19:53.28UloseTheGamehello underscore
19:57.18ReYno errors
19:57.44ReY<PROTECTED>
19:57.46ReY<Visible val="False"/>
19:57.48ReY</Frame>
19:57.50ReYdid this for around 8 things
19:58.15ReYits also exactly like that in the tutorial but it doesnt work^^
19:58.23JademusSregHm.
19:58.49JademusSregNothing changes?
19:59.19ReYno
19:59.38ReYthe info panel is at the top where it should be so thatgs fine
19:59.48ReYbut all the other things are still there at the bottom
20:00.17________________any EU Bnetters on atm?
20:00.26JademusSregBut still visible. Hm.
20:01.43JademusSregPerhaps "False" should be "false"; dunno if it's case sensitive.
20:02.49ReYtried both
20:02.51ReY;)
20:13.31UloseTheGameunderscore, i have an eu account
20:14.15UloseTheGameyou didnt cap frame
20:14.23UloseTheGamethe first
20:14.29UloseTheGame<Frame>?
20:14.37UloseTheGameim not familiar with it
20:14.46________________Oh, can you download a map for me? =\
20:14.46UloseTheGamebut that looks it might do something
20:14.53________________It's not available on US
20:15.06UloseTheGamecan you give me a day
20:15.12UloseTheGamei get home tommoro
20:15.18________________oic
20:15.22________________ya thats cool
20:15.23UloseTheGamewhich is it?
20:15.31________________ill letchui know if i find anoter person but for now its
20:15.32________________Darglein's AI test map
20:15.42________________it has some tricks i want to learn
20:15.55UloseTheGamewhat's NA name?
20:16.01________________thats the EU name
20:16.05________________there is no NA version
20:16.10UloseTheGameyours
20:16.13________________oh
20:16.13UloseTheGameyour na name
20:16.14________________ZzEzZ
20:16.17UloseTheGameoh
20:16.18UloseTheGamehi
20:16.21________________:)
20:16.35UloseTheGameoh, ya, I promised to test your map didnt i?
20:16.40________________huh?
20:16.41________________lol
20:17.24UloseTheGamethat was zarkul
20:17.26UloseTheGamenvm
20:17.33UloseTheGamehave I seen you before
20:17.37UloseTheGameyour name is familiar
20:18.10UloseTheGameim usually playing LoTR when im on sc
20:18.16UloseTheGamesc2
20:18.25UloseTheGamedo you do anything of the sort?
20:18.45________________You know me from Mapnight
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20:19.01UloseTheGameah yes
20:19.17UloseTheGamealright underscore, i will do you this favor
20:19.22________________ty
20:20.28UloseTheGamehttp://www.teamliquid.net/blog/lotrdevdiary while chat is booming
20:20.34UloseTheGamecheck my blog!
20:21.07UloseTheGamemostly lotr, but today on a whim i posted something more personal :)
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20:22.56UloseTheGamehttp://www.teamliquid.net/blog/lotrdevdiary check my blog! good UMS stuff in there!
20:23.07________________o.o
20:24.30UloseTheGamei see you are in awe at the awesomeness :)
20:25.40UloseTheGamehey ZzezZ think you could post your own ums blog?
20:25.58________________lol I'm not a blogger
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20:35.10TheuSshi @ all.
20:35.55TheuSssomeone knows how to deactivate text shadows in dialogs?
20:36.15JademusSregUse a different style.
20:36.56TheuSsall that I try have shadows ^^
20:39.19TheuSsbut now that i know there are some without shadows, I'll simply try some more...thanks!
20:54.46JademusSregOr you can do what I do and define custom styles.
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21:19.12unlike_lesterNeat, I found a repository of all the galaxy files, source controlled
21:20.02unlike_lesteroh... naah, access denied :<
21:27.02unlike_lesterAh, here! https://bitbucket.org/Mexaprone/galaxy-standard-library/src
21:32.27unlike_lesterHmm JademusSreg? I recall you passed an image of dependencies at some week ago. Do you still happend to have it?
21:40.46TheuSshow do i define custom styles? oO
21:40.55JademusSregSurwe.
21:41.23JademusSreghttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/GalaxyStandardLibrary.jpg
21:59.53unlike_lesterThanks!
22:00.10unlike_lesterI'll make sure to save it his time
22:00.24unlike_lesterthis~
22:00.38JademusSregNo problem.
22:03.38unlike_lesterHmm, looking at this - https://bitbucket.org/Mexaprone/galaxy-standard-library/src/25e6697170ad/Mods/Core.SC2Mod/Base.SC2Data/TriggerLibs/DebugGalaxy.galaxy @ line 97
22:03.46unlike_lesterI wonder if that ever was possible
22:04.05unlike_lester"unitgroup InitMap (unitgroup ugParam, point here)"
22:05.08JademusSregI do not understand the question.
22:05.48unlike_lesterWell, considernig that thing was commented out, I would assume the compiler or interpreter would through an error
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22:06.29unlike_lesterBut when it wasn't, I was wondering if that have ever worked in the past, and what in that case it would have yielded
22:07.06unlike_lesterIt's the main entry point of the map script, I mean.
22:07.39unlike_lester... hmm, then again, it only says " Test functions to debug Galaxy ASM"
22:08.23JademusSregI don't see anything unusual, though the prospect of passing args to a map on init would be useful in debugging, I suppose.
22:10.01unlike_lesterYeah, well that was all:P I only thought it looked odd since it takes arguments and returns a unitgroup, in comparison what it is now, void and void.
22:12.55unlike_lesterhttp://ingame.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/28/9770514-chastened-gaming-rep-responds-to-internet-infamy
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22:18.51unlike_lesterhttp://www.penny-arcade.com/resources/just-wow1.html how idiotic :s
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22:46.41JademusSregRead all about it yesterday.
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