| 00:19.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster Frostwind (~fhbjsdbkj@99-73-216-198.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:20.19 | Frostwind | Anyone know how to change the effects of an ability using catalogs? |
| 00:23.00 | Frostwind | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.52 | JademusSreg | The name of the ability is Instant? |
| 00:24.23 | Frostwind | yea |
| 00:24.32 | Frostwind | just testing stuff out |
| 00:24.34 | Inaer | could someone answer some newbie questions about cameras? id like to share my screen so you can see them |
| 00:24.36 | JademusSreg | I wonder if one would also need to change the link. |
| 00:24.45 | JademusSreg | See them? |
| 00:24.51 | JademusSreg | Like multiple screens on one? |
| 00:24.56 | Inaer | (triggers) |
| 00:26.23 | Frostwind | I guess no one knows then :( |
| 00:26.40 | JademusSreg | I know someone has done work on it, Frosty. |
| 00:26.46 | JademusSreg | I just can't remember who. |
| 00:26.50 | Frostwind | looks like catalogs are useless |
| 00:27.15 | Frostwind | They can't do anything useful |
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| 00:30.33 | lauroga | greetings, mapster |
| 00:31.13 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 00:32.54 | JademusSreg | Inaer, if you need assistance, you would benefit from responding to inquiries as to the nature of your problem. |
| 00:33.49 | Inaer | sorry, thought i answered that. i means them as in the triggers |
| 00:33.53 | Inaer | meant* |
| 00:34.08 | JademusSreg | That doesn't answer my question. |
| 00:34.16 | JademusSreg | What are you attempting to do, in detail? |
| 00:35.18 | Inaer | basically, when the map starts, i anted to move the camera to the unit a player starts with. and i have a region where the player is bound and wanted to restrict the camera from leaving it and set the minimap to that region |
| 00:36.25 | Inaer | when i test the map, nothing happens |
| 00:36.32 | Inaer | camera doesnt move |
| 00:36.48 | JademusSreg | Alright. Pan camera to unit position, easy. Restricting camera bounds, easy. |
| 00:36.54 | JademusSreg | What's the event on the trigger? |
| 00:37.02 | Inaer | map init |
| 00:37.12 | JademusSreg | Is the unit created at runtime or preplaced? |
| 00:37.19 | Inaer | preplaced |
| 00:37.36 | JademusSreg | Pastebin your trigger and I'll take a look. |
| 00:37.59 | JademusSreg | Use Copy As Text, go to pastebin.com. |
| 00:38.28 | JademusSreg | Because if you try to paste it here, the server will autokick for flooding. |
| 00:39.15 | Inaer | http://pastebin.com/uz2USayv |
| 00:39.29 | Inaer | will server kick for a pm? |
| 00:39.36 | Inaer | er, if i pasted it to you in pm |
| 00:39.52 | JademusSreg | Probably. |
| 00:40.07 | JademusSreg | Also, the lack of formatting in a crunched window would be unbearble. |
| 00:40.22 | Inaer | ok |
| 00:40.35 | Inaer | also sharing my desktop if that would help |
| 00:40.43 | JademusSreg | Why do you set camera bounds for Allies of player 1? |
| 00:41.06 | Inaer | because there wll be more than 1 player |
| 00:41.16 | Inaer | atm im trying to learn the basics |
| 00:41.17 | JademusSreg | And you want them all bound to the same region? |
| 00:41.23 | Inaer | yes |
| 00:41.26 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 00:41.46 | JademusSreg | Which player slot are you occupying? |
| 00:41.59 | Inaer | player 1 i assume |
| 00:42.02 | JademusSreg | Go to Map -> Player Properties, if uncertain. |
| 00:42.07 | Inaer | currently only player on map |
| 00:43.12 | JademusSreg | I don't see anything wrong with the trigger, so I'll guess I'll need to take a look at the map. |
| 00:43.26 | JademusSreg | Which irc client are you using? |
| 00:43.37 | Inaer | freenodes website |
| 00:43.50 | JademusSreg | Bah. That doesn't allow file transfers. |
| 00:43.53 | Inaer | just view my screen |
| 00:43.54 | JademusSreg | Use dropbox. |
| 00:44.36 | JademusSreg | I assume you are familiar with dropbox? |
| 00:45.24 | Inaer | i appreciate your help but you are making this difficult, hang on |
| 00:45.33 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:46.23 | JademusSreg | Team viewer and similar shit is far too intimate for my comfort. I enjoy my isolation. |
| 00:50.36 | Inaer | brb |
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| 00:54.17 | Inaer | hey ill have to get back to you, my kid dumped his dinner over his head so i gotta give him a bath... |
| 00:54.18 | JademusSreg | Camera panned just fine, once I changed Allies of Player 1 to PlayerGroupSingle (or whatever GUI calls it) for Player 1. |
| 00:54.26 | JademusSreg | See, Allies of Player 1 does not include Player 1 |
| 00:54.28 | Inaer | oh, cool |
| 00:54.40 | Inaer | minimap change? |
| 00:54.44 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 00:55.09 | Inaer | yep, im a newb |
| 00:55.15 | JademusSreg | Leave the irc client open, so I don't have to repeat shit later, if you would. |
| 00:55.17 | Inaer | anyway, ill be back |
| 00:55.21 | Inaer | k |
| 00:56.16 | JademusSreg | If you're having trouble panning the camera (I didn't), it might be the dependency you're using; I don't have FPS Engine or whatever mod, and everything worked just fine for me. |
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| 00:57.08 | Bounty | HAY GUYZ |
| 00:57.14 | JademusSreg | Hi Bounty. |
| 00:58.22 | Frostwind | Grrrr, worthless catalogs |
| 00:58.38 | Bounty | Did you see the new custom map spotlight Jade? |
| 00:58.42 | Bounty | Made me lulz |
| 00:58.53 | JademusSreg | Where? |
| 00:58.57 | JademusSreg | The tree one on mapster? |
| 00:58.58 | Bounty | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/4141441/Custom_Map_Spotlight-12_19_2011#c-3764587694 |
| 00:59.08 | Bounty | prolly the worst featured map spotlight ive ever seen |
| 01:00.28 | JademusSreg | So a mass game and a survival game. I wonder if the latter is any good. |
| 01:00.36 | Frostwind | I can't believe how crappy catalogs are |
| 01:00.45 | JademusSreg | (Mass games are terrible by default, so no need to inquire there.) |
| 01:00.48 | Frostwind | They can't do anything useful |
| 01:01.55 | JademusSreg | The use of catalogs permits the user to make dynamic changes to data object classes at runtime. They can't do everything, but I can think of numerous uses for them. |
| 01:02.06 | Frostwind | Catalogs can't change button icons, moves stuff on the command card, or seem to change an ability's effects |
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| 02:13.34 | Xaragoth | Who wants to see Xara build an entire Thor Constuction Facility? I do, I do. |
| 02:14.51 | QueenGambit | sure |
| 02:15.13 | QueenGambit | hmm, i like it how maps have the 'press any key' and theres always ONE person that doesnt press it. Now im stuck |
| 02:15.37 | QueenGambit | yay for altf4 |
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| 02:51.59 | Vailreth | in the next couple of months i will be starting my on company and one thing we will be doing is SC2 Mods |
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| 02:59.33 | nicoli_s | how do you make money doing that |
| 03:02.51 | Vailreth | it will only be one possible avenue but basically its making mods for clients .. |
| 03:22.04 | nicoli_s | but i mean who pays for thingslike that? |
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| 03:30.31 | Xaragoth | My guess? |
| 03:30.33 | Xaragoth | Not a lot of people |
| 03:30.41 | Xaragoth | Or very, very stupid ones |
| 03:30.41 | Xaragoth | :p |
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| 03:43.17 | Vailreth | indeed |
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| 06:03.40 | Mathies | So, I'm having trouble figuring out how to modify data through catalog via triggers |
| 06:04.11 | JademusSreg | Like the field paths? |
| 06:04.20 | Mathies | uhh |
| 06:04.23 | Mathies | or the entry |
| 06:04.32 | JademusSreg | Id of the unit. |
| 06:04.38 | Mathies | like the function, Catalog Field Value Set |
| 06:04.38 | JademusSreg | Or object, rather. |
| 06:04.55 | Mathies | as a string? |
| 06:05.00 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 06:05.01 | Mathies | You can't game-link it? |
| 06:05.06 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 06:05.27 | JademusSreg | Not hard to get an id. |
| 06:05.39 | JademusSreg | Double click the entry in the data editor, and it's below the name. |
| 06:05.50 | Mathies | yea but |
| 06:05.56 | Mathies | would this work |
| 06:06.04 | Mathies | setting a variable to convert gamelink to string |
| 06:06.09 | Mathies | and then referencing that variable |
| 06:06.25 | JademusSreg | If that were the case, then the variable is superfluous. |
| 06:06.35 | JademusSreg | You ought to be able to do it direct in the parameter then. |
| 06:06.40 | Mathies | It won't let me |
| 06:06.43 | Mathies | it has to be a string apparently |
| 06:06.47 | Mathies | unless I made a new function |
| 06:07.39 | Mathies | now field path.. |
| 06:07.41 | Mathies | Lol |
| 06:07.41 | JademusSreg | Game Link is just a GUI abstraction, so I don't know their limits. |
| 06:07.42 | JademusSreg | I use galaxy script. |
| 06:07.45 | Mathies | k |
| 06:07.50 | Mathies | What about Field Path? |
| 06:08.27 | Mathies | Catalog Field Value Set should modify the data for all players I specify, correct? So I can change the cost of an item for example and they will be able to buy the item at the reduced cost? |
| 06:09.06 | Mathies | I'm confused about field path because the example is an array apparently? and it only allows a string? |
| 06:09.31 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 06:09.53 | JademusSreg | "Effect[0]" would be the first effect in the Effect field array of an Abuility entry. |
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| 06:12.05 | Mathies | ok, so, I have to view it as table view or XML for it to make sense |
| 06:12.22 | JademusSreg | XML, yes. |
| 06:12.35 | Mathies | and I'd be defining the ENTIRE field value? |
| 06:12.44 | JademusSreg | I don't trust table view; you'd need to change settings to not bundle similar fields and so forth. |
| 06:12.45 | Mathies | "(0|0|0|0):(0|0|0|0|0|0|0):(0|0|0):(0|0|0):0:0:0:0:Roach:Abil:0:0:Abil/##id##:Abil:900:0:SummonRoach:(0|0|0):Available::0::(Roach)::Source" for example |
| 06:13.01 | JademusSreg | No, that's nonsense. |
| 06:13.09 | Mathies | ok |
| 06:13.17 | JademusSreg | That's a bundled field. |
| 06:14.08 | Mathies | FUCK |
| 06:14.13 | Mathies | editor crashed and I haven't saved for half an hour |
| 06:14.17 | Mathies | derp |
| 06:14.17 | JademusSreg | That sucks. |
| 06:14.24 | JademusSreg | What did you try to do? XML view? |
| 06:18.05 | Mathies | no its registering my clicks weird |
| 06:18.16 | Mathies | #GUIProblems |
| 06:20.21 | Mathies | instead of having huge phat triggers |
| 06:20.27 | Mathies | I should break them up into triggers calling other triggers |
| 06:20.28 | Mathies | right? |
| 06:20.35 | JademusSreg | Why? |
| 06:20.59 | Mathies | iunno |
| 06:21.07 | Mathies | it looks nicer |
| 06:21.40 | JademusSreg | That's silly. |
| 06:21.57 | Mathies | well |
| 06:21.57 | JademusSreg | Unless you're approaching the op limit, there's no need. |
| 06:22.01 | Mathies | whats the op limit |
| 06:22.09 | JademusSreg | About a million or so. |
| 06:22.29 | Mathies | whats an op |
| 06:22.32 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 06:22.34 | JademusSreg | Operation |
| 06:22.40 | Mathies | Oh |
| 06:22.47 | Mathies | hrmm |
| 06:22.49 | Mathies | Yea, no |
| 06:23.28 | JademusSreg | Making triggers call other triggers just puts more work on the event manage (albeit minor). |
| 06:23.41 | JademusSreg | Calling custom actions and functions on the other hand is a different matter. |
| 06:23.49 | JademusSreg | *manager |
| 06:23.58 | Mathies | idk how to make custom actions and functions |
| 06:24.03 | Mathies | so I'm going to not break stuf |
| 06:24.06 | Mathies | *stuff |
| 06:24.06 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 06:24.11 | JademusSreg | It can't break stuff. |
| 06:24.25 | Mathies | if I call them |
| 06:24.31 | Mathies | and it does something I don't want it to |
| 06:24.33 | Mathies | it'll break stuff |
| 06:24.36 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 06:24.55 | JademusSreg | Then don't make them do things you don't want them to do. |
| 06:25.49 | JademusSreg | Also, making a bunch of triggers for the same purpose, only less efficiently, is doubly silly. |
| 06:27.16 | Mathies | uhh |
| 06:27.18 | Mathies | same purpose? |
| 06:27.35 | JademusSreg | [01:20:34] <Mathies> I should break them up into triggers calling other triggers |
| 06:27.35 | JademusSreg | [01:20:35] <Mathies> right? |
| 06:27.35 | JademusSreg | [01:21:14] <Mathies> it looks nicer |
| 06:27.57 | JademusSreg | Toward the purposes of improving readability and organization, yeah. |
| 06:27.59 | JademusSreg | Same purpose. |
| 06:28.15 | JademusSreg | Only couching it in terms of aesthetics is funny. |
| 06:28.25 | Mathies | well |
| 06:28.35 | Mathies | idek |
| 06:28.45 | Mathies | the thing I'm probably thinking of is making functions |
| 06:28.53 | Mathies | like a voting dialog initialization function |
| 06:29.38 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I've got one in my map, as well. Pretty simple, depending on how you want to organize the data. |
| 06:29.55 | Mathies | uhm, if I want my function to make it |
| 06:29.58 | Mathies | what would it return? |
| 06:30.06 | JademusSreg | It doesn't have to return anything. |
| 06:30.11 | Mathies | k |
| 06:30.18 | JademusSreg | Or it can return whatever you instruct it to return. |
| 06:33.24 | Mathies | hrmm |
| 06:33.39 | Mathies | so I would have to make an array for the function to use |
| 06:33.55 | Mathies | to store the dialogs |
| 06:34.10 | JademusSreg | Yeah, pretty much. |
| 06:34.24 | JademusSreg | Same for the dialog controls. |
| 06:34.29 | Mathies | hrmm |
| 06:34.32 | JademusSreg | If you should have need to reference them. |
| 06:34.42 | Mathies | Function -> Right Click -> Not Yet Implemented -> uncheck Enabled |
| 06:34.45 | Mathies | I'll go back to that later |
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| 07:21.38 | Mathies | JademusSreg: is this a wrong field path |
| 07:21.38 | Mathies | InfoArray[13].Cooldown |
| 07:23.53 | JademusSreg | Let me check. |
| 07:25.02 | Mathies | this is the XML: http://pastebin.com/rr42kN9j |
| 07:26.01 | JademusSreg | Assuming the array is 1-indexed, yes. |
| 07:26.28 | JademusSreg | If it's 0-indexed (which means starts with as the first index), then no. |
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| 07:26.37 | Mathies | and then in the field value |
| 07:26.39 | Mathies | what do I put |
| 07:26.47 | Mathies | if I want to change the cooldown # |
| 07:26.58 | JademusSreg | The value. |
| 07:27.43 | Mathies | ok |
| 07:27.46 | Mathies | so I just have to check if its |
| 07:27.49 | Mathies | the right index |
| 07:28.05 | JademusSreg | Just test both 13 and 12 for the index. |
| 07:28.13 | Mathies | It says Train1 |
| 07:28.18 | Mathies | for the first one |
| 07:28.29 | JademusSreg | Yeah, but that's not informative. |
| 07:35.02 | Mathies | What if its |
| 07:35.06 | Mathies | for a different one |
| 07:35.37 | JademusSreg | Wat? |
| 07:35.42 | Mathies | sec |
| 07:35.50 | Mathies | http://pastebin.com/KiTeir4r how do I change those |
| 07:36.21 | JademusSreg | Same thing. Need to know if it is zero or one indexed. |
| 07:36.42 | Mathies | but theres 4 different refund fraction |
| 07:37.45 | JademusSreg | Those are 0 indexed, iirc. |
| 07:38.09 | JademusSreg | InfoArray[0].RefundFraction[0] would be Minerals. |
| 07:38.18 | JademusSreg | Should be, rather. |
| 07:38.29 | Mathies | lag |
| 07:38.29 | Mathies | ok |
| 07:38.38 | JademusSreg | I'm going to assume InfoArray is 0 indexed as well until proven otherwise. |
| 07:39.34 | Mathies | k |
| 07:39.35 | Mathies | I'm setting up my modes right now btw |
| 07:39.45 | Mathies | NormalMode vs. ProMode |
| 07:39.49 | Mathies | if manipulating the catalog is really this easy |
| 07:39.53 | Mathies | :D |
| 07:39.53 | Mathies | I'm going to be set |
| 07:40.01 | Mathies | I'll have this version ready for release earlier than I thought |
| 08:32.04 | Mathies | Anyone interested in helping me test my fully featured release candidate of galaxy vampirism 2? |
| 08:32.37 | JademusSreg | Sorry, busy. |
| 08:32.41 | Mathies | ooh earthquake |
| 08:33.03 | Mathies | so.cal, only mild shaking |
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| 08:41.56 | Mathies | JademusSreg: Your data help didn't work :( |
| 08:42.13 | JademusSreg | Which part? |
| 08:42.16 | Mathies | idk |
| 08:43.03 | Mathies | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:43.06 | Mathies | those didn't work |
| 08:43.24 | Mathies | and the array #s aren't wrong otherwise a different item would be affected |
| 08:43.27 | Mathies | instead no items were affected |
| 08:43.57 | JademusSreg | HydraliskDen is the name of the ability? |
| 08:44.08 | Mathies | yes |
| 08:44.14 | Mathies | don't ask :v |
| 08:45.05 | Mathies | this is the cooldown line in XML again: <Cooldown TimeStart="900"/> |
| 08:45.14 | Mathies | Would I have to write Cooldown.Timestart? |
| 08:45.37 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 08:45.41 | Mathies | k |
| 08:46.05 | Mathies | do I have to write anyhting if its like |
| 08:46.12 | Mathies | <blahblah value="blah"> |
| 08:46.19 | Mathies | or do I have to write .value |
| 08:46.47 | JademusSreg | I did not parse that. |
| 08:47.12 | Mathies | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:47.40 | Mathies | do I have to write LifeStart.value |
| 08:47.55 | JademusSreg | Pretty sure you don't have to write value, thankfully. |
| 08:56.59 | Mathies | success |
| 08:57.06 | Mathies | it worked now :v |
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| 09:01.58 | Mathies | Ok, so, what if an ability has multiple info arrays? |
| 09:02.14 | JademusSreg | What about it? |
| 09:02.31 | Mathies | how do I do the path |
| 09:02.44 | JademusSreg | InfoArray[#] |
| 09:02.54 | Mathies | InfoArray[12] gave me the 12th index of the info array |
| 09:03.00 | Mathies | but what if there are more than 1 info arrays |
| 09:03.21 | JademusSreg | Each InfoArray is an entry in the array. |
| 09:03.41 | Mathies | o.O |
| 09:03.51 | Mathies | I don't understand how what I did worked then |
| 09:03.52 | JademusSreg | What eludes you? |
| 09:04.10 | Mathies | http://pastebin.com/5FgHnjYb |
| 09:04.19 | Mathies | how do I modify arrays there |
| 09:04.40 | JademusSreg | Just like I said. |
| 09:04.49 | JademusSreg | <InfoArray index="Research2" Time="60" Upgrade="InfernalSpeedLevel1"> |
| 09:04.53 | Mathies | maybe I'm just confused |
| 09:04.57 | JademusSreg | is the second index in the array. |
| 09:05.42 | Mathies | InfoArray[1].Cooldown.TimeStart I guess |
| 09:06.56 | Mathies | This is completely new though: http://pastebin.com/dJxB4EgR |
| 09:07.30 | JademusSreg | What's the issue? |
| 09:07.46 | Kueken | do you want to get the catalog path to the cooldown? |
| 09:07.53 | Mathies | Yes |
| 09:08.01 | Mathies | .Cost.Cooldown.TimeUse? |
| 09:08.46 | Kueken | just a moment |
| 09:09.29 | Kueken | should be: |
| 09:09.44 | Kueken | InfoArray[0].Cooldown[0].TimeStart[0] |
| 09:09.55 | Kueken | the [0] can be skipped, if its not an array |
| 09:09.56 | Mathies | oh |
| 09:10.04 | Kueken | but it usually doesn't hurt |
| 09:10.05 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 09:10.05 | Mathies | it never says infoarray |
| 09:10.15 | Mathies | though |
| 09:10.22 | Mathies | does that mean its still an infoarray even if it doesn't say it |
| 09:10.41 | Kueken | thats for the first one |
| 09:10.48 | Kueken | the research ability |
| 09:10.57 | Kueken | the 2nd is effect - instant |
| 09:11.21 | Kueken | which should be Cost[0].Cooldown... |
| 09:11.59 | Mathies | keke |
| 09:12.26 | Mathies | all I have missing now is an achievements display dialog, achievement rewards, and some achievements themselves |
| 09:12.35 | Mathies | ehhh |
| 09:12.50 | Kueken | does it work now? |
| 09:13.03 | Mathies | I didn't test it yet |
| 09:13.09 | Mathies | but feature-wise |
| 09:13.17 | Mathies | before my release |
| 09:13.29 | Mathies | page1 before 2012 letsgooo |
| 09:15.00 | Mathies | the map before I started adding features was 7.4mb; now its 6.05mb |
| 09:15.08 | Mathies | Success at adding stuff and reducing map size |
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| 13:34.14 | Ashamed | good morning? |
| 13:39.39 | Kueken | you could say so |
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| 13:56.57 | lauroga | Anyone around to assist with posix threads? |
| 14:06.29 | Ashamed | i want to get starwars >< |
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| 15:16.52 | Cardinal_ | allo allo |
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| 16:15.37 | Ashamed | INTERNETZ |
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| 16:27.56 | Cardinal_ | Is there a way to register my nickname here? |
| 16:28.00 | Cardinal_ | And not have to choose it and login each time? |
| 16:31.22 | Xaragoth | ye |
| 16:31.25 | Xaragoth | not using the webchat |
| 16:31.41 | Xaragoth | connect via a normal irc client -> solved |
| 16:32.34 | Cardinal_ | bleh, is mIRC still annoyingly free but harassing? |
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| 16:39.13 | Xaragoth | just get miranda or gamers irc |
| 16:46.58 | Ashamed | i just read a pretty funny auto correct lol |
| 16:47.05 | Ashamed | http://likeandshare.blogspot.com/2011/11/worst-boyfriend-ever.html |
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| 17:09.03 | Vandal | very funny Skizot :) |
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| 17:15.16 | Xaragoth | http://youtu.be/uox0yHLIKSU |
| 17:17.35 | Ashamed | what do you know about meth? |
| 17:20.25 | Kueken | its bad for you :) |
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| 17:27.16 | Ashamed | .. .is it bad |
| 17:27.18 | Ashamed | IS IT? |
| 17:27.25 | Ashamed | It gives you more time! |
| 17:27.34 | Ashamed | you sleep what 1/3 of your life |
| 17:27.45 | Ashamed | with meth that number goes down to 1/8 |
| 17:27.51 | Ashamed | !!! I like teh numbers |
| 17:29.52 | Xaragoth | It also kills you |
| 17:29.58 | Xaragoth | But, meh, where is that a downside? |
| 17:29.59 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 17:31.22 | Xaragoth | btw |
| 17:31.26 | Xaragoth | DotA 2 is disappointing |
| 17:31.30 | Xaragoth | played some yesterday |
| 17:31.42 | Xaragoth | 0 innovation acquired, interface is shit, controls are horrible, etc |
| 17:31.54 | Xaragoth | You notice it's DotA 2.0 |
| 17:32.02 | Xaragoth | Because it's about as shit as the WC3 version |
| 17:32.03 | Xaragoth | :P |
| 17:32.15 | Xaragoth | only the artstyle is something I really like |
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| 17:36.12 | lauroga | good evening! |
| 17:40.31 | Ashamed | lol |
| 17:40.49 | Ashamed | dota 2 sux ass |
| 17:40.52 | Ashamed | -.- figured |
| 17:41.02 | Ashamed | i honestly have not liked any of the games created after dota |
| 17:41.19 | Ashamed | i am like i rather play dota on sc2/war3 because its not good enough to be its own game type |
| 17:41.19 | Ashamed | >< |
| 17:41.59 | Xaragoth | LoL is kinda nice, due to it's innovations |
| 17:42.05 | Xaragoth | it could use a complete engine overhaul though |
| 17:42.14 | Xaragoth | the champ stacking is shit, the artstyle could be stolen from dota 2 etc |
| 17:42.14 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 17:44.32 | Cardinal_ | I like HoN due to the fact that it is pretty much Icefrog/Guinsoo/Euls DotA in a new engine. Albeit, there have been some bigger changes, new heroes and additions recently |
| 17:45.32 | Cardinal_ | patches, nerfs and buffs are frequent though, and the stability of the engine and matchmaking system has been vastly improved over the last week |
| 17:48.07 | Ashamed | i like just play dota on sc2 when it comes out |
| 17:52.00 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 17:56.04 | RipperRoo | oh no the end is near... part 2 |
| 17:56.18 | RipperRoo | jadocalypse :S |
| 17:57.56 | JademusSreg | pew pew |
| 17:58.57 | RipperRoo | u missed your silly ripper ? :P |
| 17:58.58 | RipperRoo | xD |
| 17:59.11 | RipperRoo | but im sorry got no neat problems for u right now :D |
| 17:59.32 | JademusSreg | Orly? |
| 17:59.41 | JademusSreg | That's fine. |
| 18:00.04 | Ashamed | is it fine |
| 18:00.05 | Ashamed | IS TI |
| 18:00.07 | Ashamed | it* |
| 18:00.11 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 18:00.30 | Ashamed | oh is it |
| 18:00.49 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 18:00.52 | RipperRoo | xD |
| 18:00.58 | RipperRoo | freaks^^ |
| 18:02.13 | Vailreth | my my plans for a two player vs campaign are scrapped |
| 18:02.30 | JademusSreg | Why so? |
| 18:03.06 | Vailreth | as far as i can tell there is no way to specify two diffrent playable map areas for the players. |
| 18:03.16 | JademusSreg | Sure there is. |
| 18:03.16 | Vailreth | one for one player one for another |
| 18:03.23 | JademusSreg | Set camera bounds. |
| 18:03.43 | Vailreth | but what a pout the mini map? |
| 18:03.53 | JademusSreg | It can be modified dynamically. |
| 18:03.57 | Ahli | did you play the campaign with the hidden mission? |
| 18:04.00 | Vailreth | hm |
| 18:04.06 | JademusSreg | Set camera bounds has a bool parameter for the minimap. |
| 18:04.11 | Ashamed | yeah vail all that is possable |
| 18:05.37 | Vailreth | i see |
| 18:07.43 | JademusSreg | http://wondermark.com/782/ |
| 18:08.56 | Cardinal_ | To what extent is it worth optimising triggers? |
| 18:09.18 | Cardinal_ | For example, I have say, 5 triggers now that handle movement and attacking orders for multiple units at once |
| 18:09.33 | Cardinal_ | I could easily combine it into one trigger - is this advantageous? |
| 18:09.40 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 18:09.49 | JademusSreg | There is a thread limit, for one thing. |
| 18:10.14 | Cardinal_ | Okay, what is the thread limit? |
| 18:10.35 | JademusSreg | For another, more triggers going off means more burden on the event manager (which is usually negligible, but can be significant). |
| 18:10.46 | Ahli | in beta it was around 70 I think, but they raised it I believe. |
| 18:11.11 | JademusSreg | The thread limit (it's not true multithreading) might be around 200 or so. |
| 18:11.39 | JademusSreg | I've had to kill hundreds of units at once to get the "too many threads" error from a unit death trigger. |
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| 18:12.33 | JademusSreg | Are you a GUI user or galaxy scripter? |
| 18:12.54 | Cardinal_ | GUI - unless someone can point me to a comprehensive tutorial on learning the galaxy script |
| 18:13.15 | JademusSreg | I just extracted the galaxy files during beta and learned the API. |
| 18:13.35 | Cardinal_ | I need someone to dangle carrots in front of me and beat me with a stick occasionally. |
| 18:13.42 | JademusSreg | Kinky. |
| 18:14.06 | Cardinal_ | Is there any way to have 2 trigger windows open at once? |
| 18:14.07 | JademusSreg | But I would not begrudge persons their BDSM. |
| 18:14.22 | JademusSreg | Trigger windows? |
| 18:14.26 | JademusSreg | You mean the debugger? |
| 18:14.30 | Cardinal_ | Or two of any module windows in the galaxy editor |
| 18:14.35 | JademusSreg | Oh. |
| 18:14.39 | Cardinal_ | Data/Triggers etc without opening more instances of the same map? |
| 18:14.44 | JademusSreg | Trigger editor. |
| 18:15.00 | JademusSreg | Naw, but why would you need? |
| 18:15.05 | Vailreth | not that i am aware of but it would be very helpful |
| 18:15.26 | Ahli | 1024 threads |
| 18:15.49 | Ahli | just tested |
| 18:15.53 | JademusSreg | I use notepad++ for my script referencing, but the Script module allows you to view galaxy files too. |
| 18:15.57 | JademusSreg | Ahli, nice. |
| 18:15.58 | Cardinal_ | dankeschón meiner lieberkind |
| 18:16.10 | Ahli | it's more than I expected ;D |
| 18:16.13 | JademusSreg | Good to have a nice, power-of-two number. |
| 18:16.20 | Cardinal_ | Most likely will double with HotS |
| 18:16.26 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:16.33 | Ahli | maybe it was 64 in beta... I can't remember, I only read it somewhere |
| 18:16.42 | JademusSreg | HotS will also have a module for turning water into wine. |
| 18:16.55 | Ahli | you can do this already by changing color ;D |
| 18:16.58 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:17.01 | Vailreth | how about water into pepsi ? |
| 18:17.22 | Vailreth | wine is overratted// |
| 18:17.36 | Cardinal_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL4vtYHhc8M&feature=related |
| 18:17.42 | JademusSreg | I mean only to lampoon people treating HotS like it will be a panacea for the mapping community. |
| 18:18.19 | Xaragoth | It won't |
| 18:18.20 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 18:18.34 | Vailreth | i dont think it will fix the problems with the community but i think it will be even more fun to not get anything done with |
| 18:18.34 | JademusSreg | It has a lot of good shit, like the vastly improved debugger and integrated layout editor, but anything beyond what has been demonstrated is kinda silly speculation. |
| 18:19.20 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:19.22 | JademusSreg | Well said. |
| 18:20.03 | Vailreth | but i wish they would allow multiple instances of each module and each instance could have a diffrent map open in it.. |
| 18:20.04 | JademusSreg | There's only hundreds of unfinished projects on mapster now; following the release of HotS, there will be thousands. |
| 18:20.53 | JademusSreg | Vail, that would be a nightmare. Better off just managing multiple instances of the editor. |
| 18:21.17 | Cardinal_ | The level of complexity of Blizzard Editors can be plotted alongside the diminishing attention span of children to prove a direct correlation in the lack of projects being completed. |
| 18:21.51 | Vailreth | my problem is i am a tinkerer my stuff is never done.. ever ... |
| 18:22.23 | JademusSreg | More importantly, it's never released. =D |
| 18:22.24 | Cardinal_ | I havn't made a map ever. Partly because I can't unless I have learnt everything. I've spent the time since beta just learning various things about the editor. I am now finally creating something 'small'... |
| 18:22.48 | Vailreth | hm |
| 18:22.51 | Vailreth | good point |
| 18:23.01 | JademusSreg | Games are released without being completed all the time, haha. |
| 18:23.28 | Vailreth | i have like six or more half finished heros .. |
| 18:23.43 | Cardinal_ | Combine them into 3 complete heroes? :p |
| 18:23.44 | JademusSreg | See: Every PC, Xbox, and PS3 game released in the past 5 years. |
| 18:23.53 | Vailreth | only four of the six zerg special abilities |
| 18:23.57 | Cardinal_ | Or take a self-administered course in project management |
| 18:24.04 | Ashamed | jade |
| 18:24.06 | Ashamed | not true |
| 18:24.10 | Ashamed | FF13 was fully done |
| 18:24.17 | Ashamed | and they did not release any content for it |
| 18:24.18 | JademusSreg | HAha |
| 18:24.24 | JademusSreg | What is FF13? |
| 18:24.24 | Ashamed | becuase they felt like they finished it |
| 18:24.37 | Cardinal_ | Problem is, the nature of 'games' these days is they don't need to be complete. Take Skyrim for example. |
| 18:24.38 | Vailreth | FF13 is er poo>.> |
| 18:24.39 | Ashamed | hey i am just saying what the producers said |
| 18:24.45 | JademusSreg | Isn't than the shitty MMO? |
| 18:24.47 | Ashamed | at least it was finished when it released |
| 18:24.49 | Ashamed | no |
| 18:24.50 | Ashamed | thats 14 |
| 18:24.54 | Ashamed | 13 was the last actual game |
| 18:25.05 | Ashamed | the one with aver 10 hours of cut scenes |
| 18:25.11 | JademusSreg | 13 is the one with the ridiculously named protagonist? |
| 18:25.11 | Ashamed | and 3.5 of them being all CG |
| 18:25.25 | Ashamed | mby i dont remeber the guys name |
| 18:25.26 | Ashamed | lol |
| 18:25.28 | JademusSreg | And the shitty combat system? |
| 18:25.52 | Cardinal_ | Too many sequels because too many developer/publishers are scared to innovate. |
| 18:25.56 | Vailreth | thats 12 i think.. |
| 18:26.10 | Ashamed | that is 13 |
| 18:26.11 | Cardinal_ | Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, Elder Scrolls 5, Mario Cart 7, Final Fantasy 14? |
| 18:26.13 | Vailreth | Vahn and the Gambit System.. |
| 18:26.14 | Ashamed | i am talking about 13 |
| 18:26.23 | Vailreth | ? |
| 18:26.23 | Ashamed | yeah that is 12 |
| 18:26.24 | JademusSreg | Goddamn, how can I be expected to keep track of all the shitty games? |
| 18:26.25 | Ashamed | with gambit |
| 18:27.10 | Cardinal_ | Using action definitions and calling them within a trigger - causes them to initiate a new thread? |
| 18:27.52 | Cardinal_ | So instead of my one movement/attacking master trigger, I can simply use the event + condition validation to call any one of five action defintions to carry out the actions required? |
| 18:29.27 | Cardinal_ | Any other advantages of using action definitions and passing them parameters to using triggers+local vars? |
| 18:30.02 | JademusSreg | Final Fantasy is the prettiest chick at the party, but she's pretentious and narcissistic, she dresses (and acts) like a diva, she alienates everyone around her. |
| 18:31.02 | Vailreth | the problem is the developers at Square Enix think that the FF games are going to evolve into a new holy genre of video game |
| 18:32.24 | Ashamed | erg |
| 18:32.47 | Ashamed | i have this fuckign client and they have a client that connect to their ftp.. and their dumb ass IT department does not know why its working >< and they want me to call them |
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| 18:33.31 | Alrik | hail |
| 18:39.40 | Ahli | oh f*ck. A friend of mine is dieing within the next days... f*cking cancer... :( |
| 18:42.18 | JademusSreg | Unfortunate. |
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| 19:29.50 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/IGNProLeague THORzain uses thors |
| 19:30.19 | JademusSreg | Well yeah, it's right there in the name. =D |
| 19:34.35 | Ahli | and he lost everything to broodlords ;D |
| 19:35.06 | JademusSreg | I've run out of ways to slack off. Guess I should get back to being productive. |
| 19:37.06 | JademusSreg | Good news for SEA users, though; Photon Cycles has been republished there. The previous publisher was a flake, so SEA had a map 8 months out of date. |
| 19:49.33 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:52.09 | Ashamed | i thought we could publish to sea now? |
| 19:52.12 | Ashamed | mby not. |
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| 20:02.58 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 20:05.09 | deathnight114 | a little off topic but |
| 20:05.14 | deathnight114 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhFkWdYnWt4 Who likes my new song? |
| 20:05.22 | deathnight114 | (I don't see any talking so I may as well start conversation) |
| 20:10.12 | Alrik | FUCK SHIT REFEREE |
| 20:10.13 | Alrik | xD |
| 20:10.18 | Alrik | BVB FOR LIVE |
| 20:10.27 | Alrik | CHALALA *joining conversation* |
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| 20:22.07 | Alrik | DjStarblaze xD |
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| 20:22.48 | Frostwind | hey :( |
| 20:22.59 | Alrik | hey :) |
| 20:23.20 | Alrik | @deathnight114 u there? |
| 20:23.30 | Frostwind | :( |
| 20:27.02 | Frostwind | Catalogs make me sad :( |
| 20:28.30 | deathnight114 | oh hi |
| 20:28.32 | deathnight114 | yeah |
| 20:28.33 | deathnight114 | xD |
| 20:28.37 | deathnight114 | Alrik: |
| 20:29.01 | Alrik | ^^ |
| 20:29.14 | deathnight114 | Sorry, i'm talking to so many people right now |
| 20:29.16 | deathnight114 | xD |
| 20:29.55 | Alrik | ah ok no prob, wrote in comments on youtube, too, just take the melody from 1:20, make a kickass handsup or sth track (more powerful than trance) and it could be very good |
| 20:30.08 | Alrik | I'M SkaldCG on youtube ;) |
| 20:30.36 | deathnight114 | haha, I can tell |
| 20:30.38 | deathnight114 | xD |
| 20:30.57 | deathnight114 | I like the squirrelly synth at the end more though to be honest. LOL. |
| 20:31.24 | Alrik | didn't reach it while listening, *rewind the table biaatch!* xD |
| 20:33.10 | Alrik | ah ok yeah it is nice, but not that catching^^ |
| 20:33.37 | Alrik | u wanna be the next BH, start singing ;)) |
| 20:33.52 | deathnight114 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe9_PgrOpfM |
| 20:34.01 | deathnight114 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3dBOxGA2lQ |
| 20:34.35 | deathnight114 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luGLqc_opno |
| 20:34.37 | deathnight114 | (my old channel) |
| 20:34.44 | deathnight114 | I sing sometimes |
| 20:34.45 | deathnight114 | Not often though |
| 20:34.47 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 20:34.49 | Alrik | ^^ |
| 20:35.38 | Alrik | I am just building my own home studio more or less^^, but especially for my own one man metal project^^, or what may become of it |
| 20:35.55 | deathnight114 | haha, I'm thinking of doing a post hardcore song |
| 20:36.06 | deathnight114 | I need a few thigns first though |
| 20:36.08 | deathnight114 | things* |
| 20:36.50 | Alrik | ok need to watch borussia dortmund now .. ^^ |
| 20:37.05 | deathnight114 | Alright, xD |
| 20:37.07 | deathnight114 | Cya later :) |
| 20:43.22 | Frostwind | I wish catalogs were useful. |
| 20:43.52 | Ashamed | Thank you RKILL! |
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| 21:34.03 | TheSkunk_ | Hello |
| 21:34.17 | JademusSreg | Hello, Mister LaPew. |
| 21:34.47 | TheSkunk_ | Anyone know of a good tutorial\explanation for how to make abilities do damage based off of the stats of your hero\unit? |
| 21:35.03 | TheSkunk_ | Been searching sc2mapster for awhile now |
| 21:35.06 | JademusSreg | I suggest scripting that damage. |
| 21:35.24 | JademusSreg | Trigger to detect a dummy damage effect, then deal damage calculated in the trigger. |
| 21:35.40 | JademusSreg | Data can do a lot of shit, but arithmetic is not one of them. |
| 21:37.32 | Vandal | so Jades I'm fixing my game by making it closer to TF2 and less like DotA |
| 21:37.47 | Vandal | I was going over the models that come with SC2 and I think there are enough to do a good job of it |
| 21:37.48 | TheSkunk_ | Ah, thats lame =/ |
| 21:37.50 | Kueken | TheSkunk_ |
| 21:37.51 | TheSkunk_ | thanks |
| 21:38.00 | Kueken | dependent on stats can mean anything |
| 21:38.04 | JademusSreg | No problem Skunk. |
| 21:38.12 | Kueken | there are ways in data to cause stat-dependand damage |
| 21:38.37 | TheSkunk_ | well, I wasn't being very specific because I didn't have anything that specific in mind |
| 21:38.49 | JademusSreg | I assume Skunk means something like ((Strength)*1.5)+Base ability damage. |
| 21:38.52 | TheSkunk_ | in fact, I wanted to be able to make other things besides damage vary based on your stats |
| 21:38.59 | JademusSreg | Vandal, so no progression mechanic then? |
| 21:39.10 | Vandal | Dark Templar = Assassin, Jim Raynor Sniper = Sniper, Zealot Prisoner = Gladiator, War Pig Marine = Mercenary, Firebat = Arsonist / Pyro, Medic = YOU ARE GREAT DOCTOR |
| 21:39.24 | Vandal | nope just a fight for territory |
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| 21:57.29 | Ashamed | time to get the fhuck out of here! |
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| 22:20.39 | Batomys | Hey guys |
| 22:20.51 | Batomys | Quick questions: is there no way to move the stupid Timer window? |
| 22:21.15 | Batomys | Also, when disabling the Achievement Panel and disabling Achievements - the Achievement buttons stays at the top of the screen but does nothing... |
| 22:21.23 | Batomys | Is there any way to hide this button? |
| 22:22.12 | Ahli | hiding the achievements buttons works for me with triggers |
| 22:22.31 | Batomys | I haven't published my map yet, does it work for you when you Test Document? |
| 22:23.00 | Batomys | ' UI - Hide achievement panel for (All players)' Is the second item on my Map Initialization trigger |
| 22:23.12 | Batomys | Do I have to set it for each player individually perhaps? |
| 22:24.34 | Ahli | all players directly at start works for me |
| 22:25.00 | JademusSreg | It takes a playergroup, so you're setting it for all players already. |
| 22:25.06 | JademusSreg | No need to do it individually. |
| 22:26.37 | Batomys | I changed it to a playergroup with all human players, still no dice, the Achievement button still appears top left :| |
| 22:26.50 | JademusSreg | You're hiding the panel, though. |
| 22:26.56 | Batomys | But no way to hide the button? |
| 22:27.01 | JademusSreg | Sure there is. |
| 22:27.08 | Ahli | UISetFrameVisible((PlayerGroupAll()),c_syncFrameTypeAchievementMenuButton,false) |
| 22:27.28 | Ahli | and the button is gone. only 3 huge buttons in top left corner left |
| 22:28.37 | Batomys | Very nice, that doesn't look like a trigger element though, where do I plug that in? |
| 22:28.54 | JademusSreg | *GUI |
| 22:28.56 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 22:29.02 | JademusSreg | Anyway, it should be in there. |
| 22:29.16 | Ahli | it's in there. hide frame or something like that. |
| 22:29.17 | Batomys | Forgive the stupid questions, very little experience with data editing |
| 22:29.32 | JademusSreg | GUI is more or less as feature complete as the underlying galaxy script. |
| 22:29.59 | JademusSreg | And in some cases, offers the user additional constructs like enums (Records). |
| 22:30.00 | Ahli | btw, how to use the tabs in GUI? |
| 22:30.18 | JademusSreg | Tabs? |
| 22:30.20 | Ahli | I only opened triggers in the second tab by accident somehow |
| 22:30.32 | Ahli | the trigger display window in the top right has tabs |
| 22:30.51 | pinzu | how to create dialog with out the race borders? |
| 22:31.15 | Ahli | hide dialog background = borders and background is gone |
| 22:31.21 | JademusSreg | native void DialogSetImageVisible (int dialog, bool isVisible); |
| 22:31.23 | pinzu | tyty |
| 22:31.38 | pinzu | is there a button without it also? |
| 22:32.27 | JademusSreg | Clarify. |
| 22:32.54 | Ahli | there is no race-neutral stuff. you just can swap out the used images with something different or selfmade |
| 22:33.58 | pinzu | Im trying to create a team selection as it was in wc3 |
| 22:34.37 | Ahli | never touched wc3 for more than campaign and a few funmaps on LANs |
| 22:35.11 | pinzu | anything changed after the "show dialog" isnt revealed i asume |
| 22:35.29 | Ahli | it is |
| 22:35.45 | pinzu | <player name> <team slection> <color selection> |
| 22:36.07 | pinzu | basically opening a sub dialog when you press team selection to select a number from 1 to current active players |
| 22:36.23 | Ahli | show dialog is only a flag for the dialog on which player's screen that thing should be drawn or not drawn |
| 22:36.35 | Batomys | Before I do something really dumb - I opebed up the Game UI tab in the Data Editor - is it a matter of finding the line that already exists with that code tidbit and changing a 'true' to a 'false', or do I want to paste that snippet in somewhere? |
| 22:36.50 | Batomys | "UISetFrameVisible((PlayerGroupAll()),c_syncFrameTypeAchievementMenuButton,false)" |
| 22:37.01 | Ahli | that is a trigger action |
| 22:37.36 | Ahli | you can past that in userdefined code or script or however it is called or you go to the UI category and search for "hide" and check all listed entries |
| 22:37.43 | Ahli | one of these is that action |
| 22:38.11 | Ahli | maybe it's called "show/hide frame" |
| 22:38.26 | pinzu | k, still looking ^^ |
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| 22:39.19 | ShlugSalt | hi guys |
| 22:39.20 | Batomys | Oh ok there it is, thanks. Testing now |
| 22:41.34 | Batomys | Works, thanks guys, now I can finalize my UI placement! |
| 22:44.36 | Ahli | why the f*ck are upgrades so limited in their number... *goes away triggering all changes with catalog* |
| 22:46.03 | Batomys | Is there an easy way to have 'carried resources' value appear in the middle bottom black unit info fields when a unit is selected? |
| 22:48.28 | JademusSreg | There's no native way of which I am aware. |
| 22:53.11 | Batomys | Thanks again for the help, catch you guys later |
| 23:04.01 | Alrik | gn8 |
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| 23:43.26 | UloseTheGame | hey can anyone help me? |
| 23:43.31 | UloseTheGame | blizzard banned me |
| 23:43.33 | UloseTheGame | and im really upset |
| 23:43.52 | UloseTheGame | they banned me for "hacking" yet I don't hack |
| 23:43.56 | UloseTheGame | its 14 days... |
| 23:46.46 | Dustin | How can we help you if blizzard banned you? |
| 23:46.52 | Dustin | that makes no sense |
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| 23:51.20 | pinzu | you'll have to contact blizzard somewhere |
| 23:51.28 | UloseTheGame | im trying man |
| 23:51.58 | UloseTheGame | im really upset...i can't believe they'd get it wrong like that and ban me |
| 23:53.37 | UloseTheGame | and here's the worst part |
| 23:53.42 | UloseTheGame | it happened between the time i came home |
| 23:53.50 | UloseTheGame | and the time i left from school |
| 23:53.59 | UloseTheGame | so its definite an accident |
| 23:58.54 | UloseTheGame | wtf am I gonna do... |
| 23:59.37 | pinzu | send a e-mail or write on their forums and hope someone answers soon enough |
| 23:59.46 | pinzu | be prepared that this will probably take a couple of days ;o |