| 00:02.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster CryptRat (440a8b94@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.10.139.148) |
| 00:02.51 | CryptRat | Any pointers/point-to-tutorials for swarm AI? |
| 00:15.34 | Xaragoth | For those of you who are interested in a fast-paced PC shooter that's really, really fun: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/off-topic/29423-tribes-ascend-beta-key-use-and-repost/ |
| 00:37.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442ccc3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.44.204.59) |
| 00:37.13 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 00:37.40 | JademusSreg | Hi |
| 00:37.58 | Bounty | You should come play TriFaction Jadie |
| 00:38.13 | Mexa_ | Bounty, I was asking before, how is the popularity going for TriFaction? |
| 00:38.24 | Bounty | 69 hours atm |
| 00:38.32 | Bounty | its got a steady following though |
| 00:38.38 | Mexa_ | neat |
| 00:38.38 | Bounty | same ppl usually |
| 00:38.57 | Bounty | we hooked about 6 new players last night though so thats good |
| 00:41.14 | CryptRat | Is there a Dota-clone tutorial lurking somewhere? |
| 00:41.25 | Xaragoth | it's actually a mod file |
| 00:41.30 | Xaragoth | template dota |
| 00:41.31 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 00:41.35 | CryptRat | o_O? |
| 00:41.49 | CryptRat | I just need some basic information on spawning minions. |
| 00:41.59 | Xaragoth | heh, spawn it? |
| 00:42.00 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 00:42.11 | Xaragoth | make a timer, spawn minions, order them to attack-move |
| 00:42.20 | Xaragoth | just check the forums, it should be all over the place |
| 00:42.22 | CryptRat | Well, i mean. I guess I could go look up that dominion level thing with the marauders. |
| 00:42.31 | Ahli | give them a path ID within custom value to reorder them after stuns etc |
| 00:42.35 | CryptRat | That had a minimap icon that roamed with a group of units. |
| 00:43.02 | CryptRat | Is there a special data type that refers to a group of units? |
| 00:43.12 | Ahli | unit group? |
| 00:43.12 | CryptRat | And I don't mean Unit Group |
| 00:43.23 | Xaragoth | it's a trigger for ui display on the minimap |
| 00:43.24 | Ahli | what's bad about unit group? |
| 00:43.27 | CryptRat | Does that exist in the data editor? |
| 00:45.05 | Ahli | also I think you could move the icon (which is a minimap ping I guess) to the center of the unit group... |
| 00:45.06 | CryptRat | Hm. I guess I should go look at the dominion train map, then. |
| 00:45.29 | CryptRat | I'm just wondering if by doing it in triggers, it will only allow one group at a time. |
| 00:46.23 | Ahli | you could have an array of unit groups... |
| 00:46.32 | CryptRat | Ew... |
| 00:46.49 | CryptRat | There would only be one active at a time unless one player had a buunch of resourcess to spend |
| 00:46.53 | CryptRat | and then only two |
| 00:47.01 | CryptRat | actually 1 would be fine. |
| 00:47.16 | CryptRat | Offhand, what was the path for singleplayer maps? |
| 00:47.39 | Ahli | path? click the second tab in the open dialog within the editor |
| 00:48.09 | Ahli | the real path would be within your mpq campaign files I guess... |
| 00:58.31 | Mexa_ | is Sentry Scramble still actively played on US? |
| 00:59.08 | CryptRat | :O The Campain maps are so clean! |
| 00:59.14 | JademusSreg | I haven't heard anyone mention it in a while. |
| 00:59.29 | JademusSreg | Clean? |
| 00:59.43 | CryptRat | Why can't Campaign and Terrain be spelled the same? :/ |
| 00:59.53 | CryptRat | The map files are neatly laid out and commented. |
| 01:00.07 | CryptRat | ....which lets you know what I've been working with. |
| 01:00.16 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 01:14.46 | Vandal | hello Jademus |
| 01:15.06 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 01:20.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster Darkling_ (62eb9190@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.235.145.144) |
| 01:20.21 | Darkling_ | Gwava |
| 01:20.24 | Darkling_ | Jwava? |
| 01:20.41 | JademusSreg | Java |
| 01:20.49 | JademusSreg | Javascript |
| 01:20.56 | JademusSreg | Guano? |
| 01:23.18 | Darkling_ | Jwava! |
| 01:23.45 | Darkling_ | how do you spell that? |
| 01:24.08 | Darkling_ | the drink? |
| 01:24.10 | Darkling_ | you know? |
| 01:27.19 | Mexa_ | java? |
| 01:27.41 | Darkling_ | is that really how its spelled? |
| 01:28.35 | Mexa_ | if you mean the coffee, then yes |
| 01:28.47 | Darkling_ | no |
| 01:28.51 | Darkling_ | i mean the fruit drink |
| 01:29.02 | Mexa_ | hm |
| 01:33.20 | Darkling_ | AH HA |
| 01:33.44 | Darkling_ | Guava |
| 01:34.25 | Darkling_ | sounds yummyful |
| 01:48.50 | CryptRat | How will Heart of the Swarm affect mapping? |
| 01:49.07 | CryptRat | Will WoL maps be able to use HotS data? |
| 01:49.49 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 01:50.00 | CryptRat | What do you hope for, oh master? |
| 01:50.03 | JademusSreg | We'll find out in a few months. |
| 01:50.30 | JademusSreg | I can't say I'm invested much in SC2 modding. |
| 01:50.31 | Mexa_ | Did you guys see the new diablo 3 trailer? It looks awesome. |
| 01:51.01 | JademusSreg | And since maps published in WoL will be available to players in other expansions, I don't need to update. |
| 01:51.10 | Mexa_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9mUe5vHYzs |
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| 01:54.54 | Frostwind | hey |
| 01:54.55 | JademusSreg | Saw it. It's pretty cool. |
| 01:55.15 | JademusSreg | Not "wow, spectacular" but "wow, such fidelity". |
| 01:55.20 | Frostwind | anyone know the image path for the default image for dialog buttons? |
| 01:57.18 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 01:57.22 | JademusSreg | Depends on the race, though. |
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| 01:58.09 | Darkling_ | Guava |
| 01:58.09 | JademusSreg | Terran uses Assets/Textures/ui_button_generic_anim_terran.dds |
| 02:00.43 | Darkling_ | if I delet the spawn larvae behaivior the hatchery wont spawn larva right? will it cause any errors? |
| 02:02.27 | JademusSreg | Right. |
| 02:04.10 | Darkling_ | I wonder |
| 02:04.35 | Darkling_ | is there a way to show a text bar above a building that tells how many units its holding? |
| 02:04.55 | Darkling_ | like if it was attatched to a carrier it would tell how many interceptors it has? |
| 02:06.27 | mexa__ | Ugh, I so do not feel like taking the train in 1½ hours. |
| 02:06.42 | Darkling_ | What for? |
| 02:06.48 | mexa__ | Going homehome |
| 02:07.03 | Darkling_ | travel time? |
| 02:07.10 | mexa__ | 2h40min |
| 02:07.16 | Darkling_ | ouch. |
| 02:07.21 | Darkling_ | laptop or sleep? |
| 02:07.28 | mexa__ | laptop, I guess:P |
| 02:07.35 | Darkling_ | :) |
| 02:07.45 | mexa__ | But that's going to be derpish, since I'll leave 4.30AM |
| 02:07.56 | mexa__ | And I haven't gotten my sleep yet |
| 02:08.05 | Darkling_ | its alright |
| 02:08.20 | Darkling_ | i wouldnt trust people enough to sleep on a train XD |
| 02:08.30 | mexa__ | On top of that, I have an appointment at 1PM |
| 02:08.38 | mexa__ | oh:P |
| 02:08.57 | mexa__ | I would, but I don't trust myself that I can wake up in time for the train stop. |
| 02:09.01 | mexa__ | lol |
| 02:09.05 | Darkling_ | haha |
| 02:09.09 | Darkling_ | that makes sense |
| 02:09.32 | mexa__ | Oh well, brb packing |
| 02:09.49 | Darkling_ | ive been so sleepy lately, i dont know why, its only like 9 pm |
| 02:10.17 | mexa__ | disorientated sleeping habits, perhaps? |
| 02:10.33 | Darkling_ | nah dought it |
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| 02:10.39 | Darkling_ | doubt it |
| 02:10.57 | mexa__ | Well, I know I have that:P |
| 02:12.16 | Darkling_ | soda is so terrible tasting |
| 02:12.22 | Darkling_ | i only like 1 flavor now |
| 02:12.35 | Darkling_ | i started drinking gatorade/vitamin water |
| 02:13.06 | Darkling_ | maybe... im getting tooo many vitamins? :/ |
| 02:13.52 | JademusSreg | Unless you are highly athletic, gatorade is counterproductive. It's used to sustain one during and following regular athletic activity. |
| 02:14.41 | Darkling_ | yeah ive shifted more and more towards vitamin water |
| 02:15.56 | Darkling_ | i think it might be that ive been soo bored lately |
| 02:16.11 | Darkling_ | i have off for a while |
| 02:16.29 | Darkling_ | and all ive been doing is chatting on here, and messing with the editor |
| 02:16.44 | Darkling_ | and going over to my friends, but i dont do much over there either |
| 02:18.13 | Darkling_ | any suggestions? |
| 02:19.28 | mexa__ | Idk |
| 02:19.33 | mexa__ | :< |
| 02:20.09 | JademusSreg | Boredom is for those without passion. =D |
| 02:20.30 | Darkling_ | passion. |
| 02:20.38 | Darkling_ | such a violent word. |
| 02:20.56 | Darkling_ | I have it |
| 02:21.11 | Darkling_ | in karate, and in piano |
| 02:21.35 | Darkling_ | although |
| 02:21.47 | Darkling_ | im too lazy to do much with my piano |
| 02:22.05 | Darkling_ | my interest for it seems to keep fading |
| 02:24.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster MindWorX` (~MindWorX@188.176.196.178) |
| 02:24.25 | CryptRat | What determines whether or not you can see the passives of units you don't control? |
| 02:24.52 | JademusSreg | Passives in the command card are just buttons. |
| 02:24.56 | JademusSreg | So, check the button data. |
| 02:34.26 | CryptRat | I see a Universal flag, but it has no description. |
| 02:37.10 | JademusSreg | Compare values to known buttons that appear on not-controlled units. |
| 02:37.18 | JademusSreg | If any. |
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| 02:40.42 | Darkling_ | I think ive got a working map beta map here :) |
| 02:41.41 | JademusSreg | Any additions to the towers? |
| 02:41.49 | Darkling_ | yeah |
| 02:41.58 | Darkling_ | ive got paths worked out now |
| 02:42.27 | Darkling_ | so if you go down the weapon path you get a marine for terran, or if you go down the armor path you get automation. |
| 02:43.06 | Darkling_ | if you go down the weapon path you get broodling for zerg, if you go down the armor path you get zergling. |
| 02:43.21 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442ccc3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.44.204.59) |
| 02:43.27 | Bounty | Alert to anyone on US who wanted to try out TriFaction |
| 02:43.29 | Bounty | Now is the time |
| 02:43.36 | Bounty | tons of people in the channel :) |
| 02:44.14 | Darkling_ | same for protoss, except zealot/prison zeal |
| 02:44.56 | Darkling_ | on a scale of 1-10 how hard is it to add customization through your achievements |
| 02:45.28 | Darkling_ | like if a player unlocks achievement they get acess to red colored units |
| 02:45.51 | CryptRat | Are the presence of key items a sign of good or bad design? |
| 02:46.24 | CryptRat | Or does it matter? Do the key items have to have non-key utility? Do they have to change the way the world works? |
| 02:47.39 | CryptRat | Also, why can't my Pokémon with Fly help me travel above the ocean? |
| 02:48.03 | CryptRat | I shouldn't need Surf if I can just fly over the water. :/ |
| 02:48.28 | Darkling_ | this is true |
| 02:48.45 | Darkling_ | but pokemon hasnt been anygood since emerald |
| 02:49.05 | Darkling_ | the ugly shit they produce now isnt worth the time |
| 02:49.39 | CryptRat | lol "since emerald" |
| 02:49.39 | Darkling_ | and they hardly try to incorporate new things into the mix |
| 02:56.08 | CryptRat | Are dead units automatically removed from unit groups? |
| 02:56.56 | Ahli | if their dead time isn't set, yes. else they are dead units that could be revived |
| 02:57.06 | CryptRat | dead time? |
| 02:57.13 | CryptRat | units can be dead for a duration before going poof? |
| 02:57.14 | Ahli | *death time. property of unit |
| 02:57.19 | Ahli | yes |
| 02:57.34 | CryptRat | Is Revive an ability they'd need to be revived? |
| 02:57.42 | Ahli | no |
| 02:57.56 | CryptRat | Interesting |
| 02:58.04 | Ahli | you can revive units with triggers :D |
| 02:58.10 | CryptRat | Oh! Also is there a way to validate if an item is in an inventory or not? |
| 02:58.52 | CryptRat | I want to remove/disable behaviors from an item when it is being held by another unit. |
| 02:59.06 | CryptRat | I would very much like to not have a trigger to do this. |
| 02:59.53 | JademusSreg | I do not recall if these is a validator for that. |
| 03:00.04 | JademusSreg | I don't think there is. |
| 03:00.11 | Darkling_ | does anyone know how to do something similair to what mineralZ did with the customization |
| 03:05.26 | JademusSreg | By which you mean lots of options that make the dialog bloated and too busy, with lots of unlocks to encourage grinding through unbalanced gameplay? |
| 03:06.53 | Darkling_ | lots of unlocks to encourage grinding |
| 03:06.54 | Darkling_ | yes |
| 03:07.26 | JademusSreg | Ew. |
| 03:07.45 | JademusSreg | Anyway, it's just a dialog, a bunch of buttons, and the use of bank data. |
| 03:09.12 | Darkling_ | aw |
| 03:09.18 | Darkling_ | there arnt any assets to help |
| 03:11.57 | Darkling_ | dialogs huh... |
| 03:12.00 | Darkling_ | i hate triggers |
| 03:14.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mephs (~mephs@c-71-237-100-25.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 03:14.35 | Mephs | hello, mapster, you smelly caravan of vaginas. how is your evening? |
| 03:16.11 | JademusSreg | Did they lift the ban yet? |
| 03:16.20 | Bounty | lul |
| 03:17.12 | Darkling_ | ban? |
| 03:19.06 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 03:19.12 | Bounty | Do you think i should just cut my losses |
| 03:19.17 | Bounty | With TriFaction |
| 03:19.25 | Bounty | this mod dependancy drop bug is killing the map |
| 03:19.32 | ________________ | ?? |
| 03:19.39 | Bounty | and blizzard isnt going to fuckign fix it |
| 03:19.41 | ________________ | Mod dependancy? |
| 03:19.46 | Bounty | yeah |
| 03:19.53 | Bounty | when you use a custom mod in ur map |
| 03:20.01 | Bounty | if the lobby is open for X amount of seconds |
| 03:20.04 | Bounty | it drops everyone |
| 03:20.10 | ________________ | LoL |
| 03:20.15 | ________________ | That's a dumb bug |
| 03:20.21 | Bounty | its really not funny if u think about it |
| 03:20.27 | Bounty | for a major company like blizzard |
| 03:20.30 | Bounty | its embaressing |
| 03:20.36 | ________________ | Ya that's why I'm laughing. |
| 03:20.43 | Bounty | and they wont fix it |
| 03:20.46 | Bounty | u bring it up |
| 03:20.50 | Bounty | and they respond like |
| 03:20.58 | Bounty | "lolwut? never herd of it" |
| 03:21.09 | ________________ | so show them an example |
| 03:21.20 | Bounty | that would require communication with blizzard |
| 03:21.24 | Bounty | which there is none |
| 03:21.31 | ________________ | then ignore it and bring your map back at a later time' |
| 03:21.54 | Bounty | this bug has been out for a loong time according to JademusSreg |
| 03:22.02 | Bounty | he had the same issue with Photon Cycles apparently |
| 03:22.11 | Bounty | how about you mephs? |
| 03:22.17 | Bounty | did you have this issue with smashcrafT? i know you used mods |
| 03:22.25 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 03:22.39 | Bounty | sigh |
| 03:22.41 | Bounty | all this work |
| 03:22.44 | Darkling_ | smashcraft |
| 03:22.45 | Bounty | for fucking nothing |
| 03:22.47 | JademusSreg | Might simply depend on the amount of data loaded. |
| 03:22.51 | Darkling_ | that thing like a moba? |
| 03:23.07 | JademusSreg | Or it might be mods. |
| 03:23.09 | Darkling_ | i dont recall that closing |
| 03:23.12 | Bounty | the map loads at lightning fast speed |
| 03:23.13 | Darkling_ | ever |
| 03:23.17 | ________________ | Photon cycles had the issue? I've never experienced it. |
| 03:23.20 | JademusSreg | Easy to test; make a map with an empty mod. |
| 03:23.22 | Bounty | because he removed the mod |
| 03:23.32 | JademusSreg | If it still drops, it's mods that cause stability issues. |
| 03:23.43 | Bounty | it doesnt matter jademus |
| 03:23.47 | Bounty | the map connect be without the mod |
| 03:23.49 | JademusSreg | Photon Cycles had connection issues when I attempted to addm usic in mods. |
| 03:23.51 | Bounty | cannot* |
| 03:23.58 | JademusSreg | Since that fucked with the map, I moved it all into the map. |
| 03:24.03 | Bounty | so i mean |
| 03:24.06 | ________________ | oic |
| 03:24.09 | Bounty | its either stop developing the map |
| 03:24.12 | Bounty | or |
| 03:24.17 | Bounty | idk |
| 03:24.26 | Bounty | ppl love the map though |
| 03:24.30 | ________________ | You can move it into the map like jades did |
| 03:24.33 | Bounty | no i cant |
| 03:24.37 | JademusSreg | 20 MB limit. |
| 03:24.40 | ________________ | oic |
| 03:24.42 | Bounty | this is ALOT bigger than photon cycles |
| 03:24.43 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:24.47 | Bounty | the map file size atm is 20.2mb |
| 03:24.51 | Bounty | the mod is 17 |
| 03:25.06 | JademusSreg | Photon Cycles without the music is maybe a MB. Haha |
| 03:25.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:25.19 | Bounty | even with those models? |
| 03:25.24 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 03:25.28 | Bounty | wierd |
| 03:25.34 | ________________ | lol nice compression |
| 03:25.36 | Bounty | i have like |
| 03:25.39 | Darkling_ | uhhhm |
| 03:25.41 | Bounty | 80mb in models |
| 03:25.43 | JademusSreg | Naw. M3 compresses well. And they all use standard textures. |
| 03:25.43 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:25.47 | Bounty | yeah |
| 03:25.53 | Bounty | 80mb in models in my map |
| 03:25.54 | Bounty | is like |
| 03:25.57 | Darkling_ | how come hero attack is 116 mbs? |
| 03:25.58 | Bounty | 15mb |
| 03:26.00 | Darkling_ | anyone? |
| 03:26.04 | ________________ | looool |
| 03:26.06 | Bounty | hero attack is 116 mb? |
| 03:26.08 | ________________ | impossible |
| 03:26.10 | Bounty | not possible |
| 03:26.14 | Darkling_ | it is |
| 03:26.16 | Darkling_ | go look |
| 03:26.18 | ________________ | no1 would ever dl it |
| 03:26.18 | Bounty | no its not |
| 03:26.20 | ________________ | think about it |
| 03:26.21 | Bounty | seirously |
| 03:26.21 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mexa_ (~Mexa@80.78.216.84) |
| 03:26.21 | ________________ | 1GB |
| 03:26.24 | Bounty | not even that |
| 03:26.27 | Mexa_ | hey |
| 03:26.31 | Bounty | but where the fuck is the space coming from |
| 03:26.35 | Bounty | 116mb would be like |
| 03:26.36 | ________________ | ^ |
| 03:26.38 | Bounty | total conversion |
| 03:26.49 | Bounty | hero attack barely has new abilities |
| 03:26.54 | ________________ | ^ |
| 03:26.56 | JademusSreg | Terrain textures for a max size map amounts to ~2-3 MB. |
| 03:26.56 | Bounty | pretty sure he still uses fucking stimpack |
| 03:27.12 | ________________ | The terrain isnt even pretty |
| 03:27.16 | Bounty | its 1 texture |
| 03:27.18 | Bounty | per map |
| 03:27.20 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:27.22 | Darkling_ | then how come its 116 mb and takes an hour to dl? |
| 03:27.25 | ________________ | it doesnt take an hour |
| 03:27.28 | ________________ | its not 116mb |
| 03:27.30 | Bounty | its not 116mb |
| 03:27.33 | Bounty | its prolly 116kb |
| 03:27.34 | ________________ | no1 would play, im telling you |
| 03:27.36 | Mexa_ | Do anyone else have this problem as well? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2757798/login_error.jpg |
| 03:27.36 | Bounty | and u have dial up |
| 03:27.39 | Bounty | thats prolly what it is |
| 03:27.46 | Darkling_ | i dont have dial up |
| 03:27.51 | Darkling_ | i have comcast cable |
| 03:27.55 | ________________ | thats a new error |
| 03:27.59 | Darkling_ | 2mb dl speed |
| 03:28.00 | ________________ | try restarting ur comp |
| 03:28.00 | Mephs | hi bounty |
| 03:28.05 | Bounty | Mephs |
| 03:28.06 | Mephs | what project # are you on? |
| 03:28.08 | Mephs | 620? |
| 03:28.10 | Bounty | Mod Dependancies |
| 03:28.12 | Mexa_ | oshit, iMephs |
| 03:28.13 | ________________ | if it doesnt work, reDL SC II |
| 03:28.16 | Bounty | Did they cause issues in Smashcraft |
| 03:28.19 | Bounty | with dropping players |
| 03:28.28 | Mephs | fuck if I know. I haven't logged on bnet since like... |
| 03:28.30 | Mephs | sept |
| 03:28.34 | Bounty | Yeah but like, when you were active |
| 03:28.38 | Bounty | Did it happen |
| 03:28.40 | Mephs | no |
| 03:28.42 | Mephs | I used 4 mods |
| 03:28.46 | Mexa_ | Bounty, unofficial mod dependencies have a tendency to desync players. |
| 03:28.57 | Bounty | Then how the fuck did mephs have 4 mods |
| 03:28.59 | Bounty | 4 months ago |
| 03:29.01 | Bounty | with no issues |
| 03:29.07 | Mephs | cuz i'm a boss |
| 03:29.09 | Bounty | now all the sudden its a death sentence |
| 03:29.11 | ________________ | ^ |
| 03:29.18 | ________________ | ~Mephs |
| 03:29.19 | purl | i heard mephs is someone with three more yachts than you! |
| 03:29.23 | Mexa_ | I recall the problem begun occuring after the region merges. |
| 03:29.26 | Mephs | fuckin right |
| 03:29.30 | ________________ | ;) |
| 03:29.37 | Bounty | yano |
| 03:29.38 | Bounty | that makes sense Mexa |
| 03:29.40 | Darkling_ | region merges? |
| 03:29.57 | Mexa_ | yeah, EU/Russia and NA/LA |
| 03:29.59 | Bounty | thats the first explanation ive heard |
| 03:30.01 | Bounty | that makes sense |
| 03:30.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:30.08 | Mephs | ~Sixen |
| 03:30.08 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, sixen is a penis with 20 penises on his head and he likes to eat penis |
| 03:30.10 | Darkling_ | oh |
| 03:30.25 | Bounty | ~Bounty |
| 03:30.25 | purl | hmm... bounty is a trigger wh-ore |
| 03:30.33 | Bounty | still there eh |
| 03:30.37 | Mephs | wasn't me |
| 03:30.39 | Bounty | oh well |
| 03:30.39 | Mexa_ | Mephs, so I heard you and Sixen have a quarrel? |
| 03:30.41 | Darkling_ | extra extra read all about it purl is a dick whore |
| 03:30.43 | Bounty | bibendus did that |
| 03:30.58 | Mephs | the last thing I said to sixen was ":)" about something like 8 months ago |
| 03:31.12 | Bounty | sounds like a quarrel to me |
| 03:31.18 | Mephs | sure, lets roll with that |
| 03:31.50 | Mephs | i got banned for calling out this dickfag for basically being a gigantic faggot and proposing to his gf on starcraft |
| 03:31.58 | Mephs | not even like...a master level match with her. a fucking custom map |
| 03:31.59 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:32.23 | Darkling_ | what the |
| 03:32.25 | Darkling_ | fuck? |
| 03:32.28 | Mexa_ | Reasonable ban, I suppose. |
| 03:32.29 | Mephs | if you're gonna propose to your woman on fucking sc2 at least ream her ass with hydralisks first |
| 03:32.42 | Mexa_ | I don't know. |
| 03:32.53 | Bounty | It would be reasonable if it was out of the blue Mexa |
| 03:33.00 | Bounty | but mephs had been saying shit like that for over a year |
| 03:33.03 | Bounty | and never got banned |
| 03:33.05 | Bounty | what makes that comment so special |
| 03:33.16 | Bounty | but thats just imo |
| 03:33.18 | Mexa_ | Sooner or later, the last bomb will be dropped. |
| 03:33.21 | Mephs | shrug |
| 03:33.23 | Bounty | no |
| 03:33.27 | Bounty | the mods are hypocrites lol |
| 03:33.29 | Bounty | thats the problem |
| 03:33.31 | Mephs | the hell do I contribute to mapster anyway? lol idc |
| 03:33.38 | Bounty | they get butthurt over stupid shit |
| 03:33.42 | Bounty | but they literaly look the otherway |
| 03:33.47 | Mephs | more importantly LoL is down :( |
| 03:33.48 | Bounty | when soemone makes a thread with a picture of a naked girl |
| 03:33.50 | Mephs | and I dont have a dota 2 key |
| 03:33.53 | Mephs | someone hook me up |
| 03:33.57 | Bounty | explain that >< |
| 03:34.00 | Mexa_ | Shit, so I suppose that's why you're here? |
| 03:34.02 | Mephs | bounty |
| 03:34.04 | Mephs | shut the fuck up for a second |
| 03:34.08 | Mephs | man needs a dota 2 key right now |
| 03:34.10 | Darkling_ | dota 2 key!? |
| 03:34.10 | Darkling_ | :O |
| 03:34.12 | Bounty | Eat my ass dick breathe |
| 03:34.26 | Bounty | Dota 2 is fucking gay |
| 03:34.28 | Mephs | my dick does not breathe. it is wrapped tightly in tighty wighty thong underwear |
| 03:34.36 | Bounty | LOLSAMEGAMEUCANPLAYINWC3 |
| 03:34.40 | Bounty | but with valve graphics |
| 03:34.42 | Bounty | woopty fucking doo |
| 03:34.45 | Mephs | duh, its for the graphics |
| 03:34.47 | Mephs | i dont care about the gameplay |
| 03:34.56 | Darkling_ | duh its for the upgrade |
| 03:35.00 | Mephs | I could also play blade & soul closed beta but it looks gay |
| 03:35.01 | Mexa_ | Bounty, I don't see pornography or nudity to follow the curse and sc2mapster policies and tos. |
| 03:35.15 | Darkling_ | i would buy BF2142 again if they just used the Frostbite 2 engine |
| 03:35.21 | Darkling_ | no lie |
| 03:35.25 | Bounty | so ur allowed to post nudep ictures? |
| 03:35.26 | Bounty | on the forums |
| 03:35.30 | Mephs | do it |
| 03:35.32 | Bounty | and not get in trouble |
| 03:35.41 | Bounty | how the fuck does that make sense |
| 03:35.43 | Mephs | especially do it for the custom map marriage guy |
| 03:35.49 | Mephs | he wont be seeing tits for the next 10 years the rate he's going |
| 03:35.50 | Mexa_ | I told you that I don't see it follows the rules. |
| 03:35.52 | Mephs | he needs it |
| 03:36.02 | Mexa_ | *following |
| 03:36.06 | Mexa_ | Whatever english. |
| 03:36.20 | Bounty | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/20884-nsfw-sexy-gamequiz-is-coming/ |
| 03:36.25 | Bounty | everything about that thread pisses me off |
| 03:36.28 | Bounty | with how the mods act |
| 03:36.36 | Bounty | but then when u say something that they get butthurt over |
| 03:36.40 | Bounty | they get all proffessional |
| 03:36.46 | Mexa_ | Oh you mean that thread.. |
| 03:36.57 | Mephs | you point out someone's fat ass wife and then suddenly everyone gets mad |
| 03:37.04 | Mephs | like it's my fault she's fat |
| 03:37.09 | JademusSreg | Marriage proposal in a SC2 map? Wut? |
| 03:37.41 | Mephs | see if I personally fed this bitch twinkies till she put on 300 lbs then you have a good reason to ban me |
| 03:37.50 | Mephs | otherwise I'm just making educated observations |
| 03:37.54 | Mexa_ | Mephs, |
| 03:38.07 | Mexa_ | How hard is it to avoid being offensive? |
| 03:38.24 | Bounty | Mephs is the definition of what is wrong with the internet |
| 03:38.38 | Mephs | i'm kind of like this irl too :| but at least people can tell i'm not srs. |
| 03:38.39 | Bounty | He acts like the biggest douche in history in chats and forums |
| 03:38.45 | Bounty | but in stream |
| 03:38.47 | Bounty | hes a bitch |
| 03:38.52 | Mexa_ | What? And I thought he represented the 99% |
| 03:39.01 | Bounty | lol bullshit mephs ur nothing like this irl |
| 03:39.06 | Mephs | i'm the 1% you faggots are protesting about |
| 03:39.10 | Mephs | get off my lawn btw |
| 03:39.11 | Bounty | judging from how u acted on every stream u were on |
| 03:39.23 | Mephs | I have to exert myself physically to appear professional and friendly sometimes. |
| 03:39.24 | Bounty | get me on mapcraft n ill show u someone who acts how they act on the forums |
| 03:39.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:39.46 | Mephs | part of my day job, it's a necessary skill to have |
| 03:40.14 | ________________ | Your day job is a politician? |
| 03:40.23 | Bounty | 1.5/10 |
| 03:40.27 | Mephs | no, software dev, but I have to do occasional maintenance and tech support tickets |
| 03:40.46 | ________________ | lol bounty was that @me? |
| 03:40.56 | Bounty | yeah |
| 03:40.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:40.58 | Mexa_ | I still wait on your indie games. |
| 03:40.59 | ________________ | D: |
| 03:41.03 | Bounty | just giving you my score of ur joke |
| 03:41.05 | Mephs | no time anymore to do anything |
| 03:41.06 | Bounty | =P |
| 03:41.07 | ________________ | ya i know |
| 03:41.07 | Bounty | u can do better |
| 03:41.08 | ________________ | lol |
| 03:41.37 | Mexa_ | .. meh, off packing |
| 03:41.42 | ________________ | What company mephs? |
| 03:41.45 | ________________ | bai mexa |
| 03:41.49 | Mephs | work 40 hrs a week, + 20 hrs side project for this month, plus gym time 6 days a week, plus break practice, and soon gonna learn the bass guitar |
| 03:42.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:42.02 | Mephs | since my dad's sending me one for some unknown reason (I'm musically retarded) |
| 03:42.04 | Bounty | the gym |
| 03:42.05 | Bounty | lolol |
| 03:42.09 | Bounty | THE GYM |
| 03:42.14 | Bounty | LOLOLOL |
| 03:42.16 | ________________ | what's break practice? |
| 03:42.22 | Mephs | breaking. breakdancing. |
| 03:42.25 | ________________ | oh that |
| 03:43.21 | Bounty | fucking |
| 03:43.27 | Mephs | yes |
| 03:43.32 | Mephs | that too |
| 03:43.42 | ________________ | Aight |
| 03:43.45 | ________________ | You were a boss |
| 03:43.49 | ________________ | but u lost my respect now |
| 03:43.52 | ________________ | ur boring again. |
| 03:44.06 | Mephs | least I have a pronouncable name with syllables. |
| 03:44.16 | ________________ | *shrug* |
| 03:44.42 | Mephs | the fuck is trifaction |
| 03:44.50 | Bounty | best map ull ever play |
| 03:44.52 | Mephs | besides another project that won't be completed |
| 03:44.55 | Bounty | if u dont get dropped while loading |
| 03:45.03 | Bounty | its on bnet >< |
| 03:45.08 | Bounty | pretty much completed |
| 03:45.13 | Bounty | nigga |
| 03:45.14 | Mephs | third person. unplayable |
| 03:45.17 | Mephs | the fuck I tell you bout that |
| 03:45.18 | Bounty | nope |
| 03:45.24 | Bounty | ive got support this time |
| 03:45.28 | Bounty | =P |
| 03:45.33 | Mephs | did you get off bnet? |
| 03:45.38 | Bounty | nope |
| 03:45.44 | Mephs | unplayable. |
| 03:45.52 | Bounty | say that to all the people PLAYING it right now |
| 03:45.57 | Bounty | nigga |
| 03:46.01 | Bounty | ill cut u |
| 03:46.06 | Bounty | holmes |
| 03:46.09 | Mephs | all 3 of them? :| |
| 03:46.22 | Bounty | nope, more then 3 >< |
| 03:46.25 | Mephs | 5 w/e |
| 03:46.29 | Bounty | more |
| 03:46.32 | Mexa_ | btw Bounty, the sexy game quiz thread doesn't contain any pictures anymore |
| 03:46.35 | Mephs | so its a 3rd person dota? |
| 03:46.42 | Mexa_ | So no nodity pics or nudity for you. |
| 03:46.46 | Mexa_ | *video |
| 03:46.55 | Bounty | could be described as a form of dota |
| 03:47.21 | Mephs | you really know how to make unappealing games |
| 03:47.28 | Mephs | sound even more unappealing in chat |
| 03:47.43 | Bounty | sorry im not trying to win u over >< |
| 03:48.01 | Mephs | not your fault dota sucks as a game genre |
| 03:48.06 | Mephs | (well now it is, kind of) |
| 03:48.08 | Bounty | not my take on it |
| 03:48.18 | Bounty | the only thing it has in common with dota |
| 03:48.24 | Bounty | is creeps and lanes |
| 03:48.25 | Darkling_ | dam it |
| 03:48.28 | Bounty | thats baout it |
| 03:48.30 | Mephs | that'd be dota, bounty. |
| 03:48.35 | Darkling_ | all these slow songs on pandora right now |
| 03:48.39 | Mephs | here's an idea. |
| 03:48.43 | Darkling_ | I WANT UPBEAT IN YO FACE MUSIC |
| 03:48.51 | Mephs | make the game top-down RTS view. it's fucking dota now |
| 03:49.06 | Bounty | nah |
| 03:49.12 | Bounty | wouldnt work with the current terrain |
| 03:49.23 | Bounty | and it looks and plays great as it is |
| 03:49.32 | Darkling_ | I just want bf3 ): |
| 03:49.37 | Bounty | lol fuck bf3 |
| 03:49.43 | Bounty | i aint using Origin |
| 03:49.49 | Darkling_ | bull |
| 03:49.57 | Bounty | such BS they did that |
| 03:50.07 | Mephs | I CANT WAIT TO PLAY BATTLEFIELD EGYPT 3 |
| 03:50.08 | Bounty | its like Best Buy trying to compete with gamestop in used game sales |
| 03:50.09 | Darkling_ | they did that for piracy |
| 03:50.10 | Bounty | like wtf |
| 03:50.12 | Mephs | oh wait. yes I can |
| 03:50.20 | Bounty | is that a joke Darkling? |
| 03:50.24 | Bounty | thats not why they did it |
| 03:50.33 | Darkling_ | yeah |
| 03:50.39 | Darkling_ | thats exactly why they did it |
| 03:50.43 | Bounty | right |
| 03:50.49 | Darkling_ | they set it up so the game has to be played from the web |
| 03:50.52 | Mexa_ | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2757798/blizzard_repair.jpg So apparantly i have all those locales :O? |
| 03:50.53 | Bounty | bc somehow Origin is more secure than Steam |
| 03:51.05 | Darkling_ | no |
| 03:51.10 | Darkling_ | not origin specifically |
| 03:51.11 | Mexa_ | I wonder if that's why i can't go on b.net |
| 03:51.33 | Darkling_ | but they use the web to launch the game |
| 03:51.40 | Darkling_ | you see? |
| 03:51.53 | Bounty | and why does that give them a reason to not sell the game on steam? |
| 03:51.57 | Bounty | steam has a browser |
| 03:52.01 | Darkling_ | because EA |
| 03:52.03 | Darkling_ | thats why |
| 03:52.07 | Bounty | ah ok |
| 03:52.10 | Bounty | that arguement makes total sense |
| 03:52.13 | Bounty | i concede |
| 03:52.19 | Mexa_ | Oh what the fuck? Why does Blizzard repair go through 41GB :O? |
| 03:52.19 | Darkling_ | good |
| 03:52.33 | Darkling_ | really |
| 03:52.37 | Darkling_ | its because of EA |
| 03:52.48 | Darkling_ | they are trying to compete with Steam |
| 03:52.56 | Bounty | ???? |
| 03:52.57 | Darkling_ | so they know if they sell bf3 on origin instead |
| 03:52.59 | Darkling_ | they get that much more |
| 03:53.00 | Bounty | r u fucking stupid |
| 03:53.05 | Bounty | THATS WHAT I FUCKING SAID EARIER |
| 03:53.06 | Bounty | n u were like |
| 03:53.07 | Bounty | naw man |
| 03:53.10 | Bounty | they did it bc of piracy |
| 03:53.14 | Bounty | wtf |
| 03:53.15 | Darkling_ | no |
| 03:53.21 | Bounty | stop speaking |
| 03:53.25 | Darkling_ | i said thats one of the reasons |
| 03:53.31 | Darkling_ | i didnt say that was the ONLY reason |
| 03:53.45 | Bounty | lol piracy ahs nothing to do with why its only on origin though |
| 03:53.49 | Bounty | absolutely nothing |
| 03:53.53 | Bounty | besides |
| 03:54.06 | Bounty | arent you that guy who was telling everyone to accept Jesus Christ as their savior the other day? |
| 03:54.08 | Mexa_ | They want to attract people to their service. |
| 03:54.20 | Bounty | Thats the stupidest move ever though Mexa |
| 03:54.22 | Bounty | it wont work |
| 03:54.24 | Mexa_ | I know |
| 03:54.28 | Bounty | Steam is way to established |
| 03:54.36 | Bounty | Its like Best Buy competing with Gamestop in used sales |
| 03:54.36 | Darkling_ | How does that have anything to do this? |
| 03:54.37 | Mexa_ | It's about the same as releasing a game exclusively on ps3 or similar. |
| 03:54.38 | Bounty | not gonan happen |
| 03:54.54 | Bounty | because Darkling |
| 03:54.56 | Mexa_ | Bf3 has sold about 9 million copies or so though. |
| 03:55.00 | Bounty | You're crazy enough to believe in invisible people |
| 03:55.02 | Mephs | ITS LIKE BLOCKBUSTER COMPETING WITH NETFLIX |
| 03:55.04 | Bounty | I shall not debate you |
| 03:55.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:55.15 | Bounty | funny thing baout that mephs |
| 03:55.16 | Darkling_ | Forget you |
| 03:55.24 | Mephs | you like dicks? |
| 03:55.25 | Bounty | Netflix should have been trying to compete with Blockbuster |
| 03:55.32 | Darkling_ | ^ |
| 03:55.33 | Bounty | but Blockbuster just didnt do jac kshit for like 10 years |
| 03:55.37 | Bounty | and now they are like OH SHIt |
| 03:55.40 | Bounty | WOOPS |
| 03:55.44 | Mephs | they were, technically in comeptition with blockbuster, but they had a better idea |
| 03:55.44 | Darkling_ | yeah |
| 03:55.45 | Mexa_ | YESSS, COFFEE... |
| 03:55.50 | Bounty | yeah but |
| 03:55.53 | Bounty | at that moment |
| 03:55.55 | Mephs | now blockbuster is scrambling to catch up. GG WP |
| 03:56.06 | Bounty | Blockbuster should have been doing what they're doing now like 10 years ago |
| 03:56.10 | Bounty | or whenever netflix started |
| 03:56.11 | Bounty | to late |
| 03:56.12 | Bounty | gg |
| 03:56.19 | Mephs | GEE GEE |
| 03:56.42 | Mephs | I watched Rubber over the weekend |
| 03:56.48 | Mexa_ | ... although the 4th cup already |
| 03:56.54 | Mexa_ | I hope I don't die on the train. |
| 03:56.56 | Mephs | would recommend |
| 03:57.08 | Mephs | it's kind of WTF though |
| 03:57.25 | Mexa_ | Mephs, I recommend Hannah |
| 03:58.10 | Bounty | Why the fuck am i making maps |
| 03:58.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:58.18 | Mephs | because you like dicks. |
| 03:58.19 | Bounty | instead of playing Skyrim |
| 03:58.47 | Bounty | I touched my dick to another dick and got my son |
| 03:58.58 | Bounty | Thats how you have gay sex |
| 03:59.03 | Bounty | *poke* |
| 03:59.19 | Mephs | it's only gay if the balls touch |
| 03:59.20 | Bounty | I dont know how this rumor got started about something with the anus? |
| 03:59.54 | Bounty | I wonder if two men have ever just had a cock fight |
| 04:00.03 | Bounty | Like just swinging their dicks at eachother like swords |
| 04:00.10 | Bounty | By process of elimination |
| 04:00.19 | Bounty | This has to have happend sometime in history |
| 04:00.28 | Mephs | pretty sure it has |
| 04:00.34 | Mephs | anal scissoring is a rising trend I hear |
| 04:00.37 | Mephs | too |
| 04:00.49 | Bounty | Scissor me timbers |
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| 04:08.39 | Mexa_ | Sweet, new humbleindiebundle already |
| 04:08.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@ip184-187-180-50.sb.sd.cox.net) |
| 04:28.12 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 04:28.52 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 04:29.00 | Bounty | I heard there a flag you can set to make a model walkable |
| 04:29.03 | Bounty | heard of it? |
| 04:29.40 | JademusSreg | No. There was a flag in WC3, but not in SC2. In SC2, models have to define their walkability plane. |
| 04:29.53 | Bounty | u sure? |
| 04:29.55 | Kueken | afaik it is defined in the model file, or? |
| 04:29.59 | Bounty | im trying to find the mapcraft |
| 04:30.04 | Bounty | whre they talked about it |
| 04:30.08 | Bounty | in SC universe |
| 04:30.14 | Bounty | they made a starport walkable |
| 04:30.29 | Bounty | and he said something about a flag |
| 04:30.44 | JademusSreg | Get me a transcript of the discussion if you come across it. |
| 04:30.53 | Bounty | i think i found the episode |
| 04:30.57 | Bounty | listening to it now |
| 04:31.02 | Bounty | sadly, gotta listen to it all |
| 04:31.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:31.17 | Kueken | I will try in the editor |
| 04:31.41 | Bounty | Bc i was thinking |
| 04:31.45 | Bounty | if i cancel developmenton TriFaction |
| 04:31.53 | Bounty | i dont want to stop the idea completely |
| 04:32.05 | Bounty | i want to transport it into a map that i dont need a mod for |
| 04:32.07 | Bounty | aka no creeps |
| 04:32.09 | Bounty | etc |
| 04:32.40 | Bounty | the original plan was to have destructible forts |
| 04:32.58 | Kueken | hm |
| 04:33.06 | Bounty | like |
| 04:33.08 | Bounty | 3 factions |
| 04:33.13 | Bounty | 1 contested fort in the middle |
| 04:33.14 | Kueken | there seems to be no difference for the model object |
| 04:33.14 | JademusSreg | It's part of the model asset. |
| 04:33.20 | Kueken | yes |
| 04:33.25 | Kueken | I can confirm |
| 04:33.34 | Bounty | so u need 3ds max? |
| 04:33.39 | JademusSreg | I've known that for a long time, and explained as much at the time. |
| 04:33.42 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 04:33.55 | JademusSreg | Not until the Blizzard art tools are released. |
| 04:34.00 | JademusSreg | -Then- you'll need it. |
| 04:34.06 | Bounty | well |
| 04:34.08 | Bounty | i think ur wrong |
| 04:34.16 | Bounty | im 99% sure they said they made the starport have pathing |
| 04:34.19 | Bounty | by clicking a flag |
| 04:34.19 | JademusSreg | Because the current community-made shitty m3 exporter can't handle walkabilityp lanes. |
| 04:34.34 | Bounty | i think it was |
| 04:34.37 | Bounty | keyframed or something |
| 04:34.57 | Bounty | something like that |
| 04:35.11 | Kueken | thats at Physics Type |
| 04:35.11 | Kueken | in the model |
| 04:35.15 | Bounty | what does keyframed do? |
| 04:35.17 | JademusSreg | Think I'm wrong if it pleases you. Makes no difference to me. |
| 04:38.07 | Kueken | hm |
| 04:38.17 | Kueken | previously walkable model |
| 04:38.33 | Kueken | physics type changed to never -> seems to be not walkable anymore |
| 04:38.40 | Kueken | re-checking |
| 04:38.41 | Bounty | im testing it now |
| 04:38.46 | Bounty | with a starport |
| 04:39.19 | Kueken | walkable with keyframed |
| 04:39.26 | Kueken | seems you are right, bounty |
| 04:39.30 | Bounty | told u |
| 04:39.31 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:39.42 | Bounty | im still listening to the cast though |
| 04:39.44 | Kueken | however, Jade is not entirely wrong |
| 04:39.46 | Bounty | to see exactly what he said |
| 04:39.51 | Kueken | it is set in the asset as well |
| 04:40.09 | Kueken | some assets seem to be walkable by default, others not |
| 04:40.11 | Bounty | i was just saying that i think there was another way |
| 04:40.15 | Kueken | yes |
| 04:40.23 | Bounty | a more simple way |
| 04:40.33 | Kueken | thats good news for me :) |
| 04:40.55 | Kueken | had some model i wanted to use, but it's walkability screwed up everything |
| 04:42.07 | Kueken | so |
| 04:42.26 | Kueken | why can't I remove disabled behaviors via trigger? :/ |
| 04:42.43 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 04:42.51 | JademusSreg | Never had that issue before. |
| 04:43.01 | JademusSreg | But then, I've never tried to do it. |
| 04:43.24 | JademusSreg | Can you apply an effect to remove the behavior instead? |
| 04:46.39 | Kueken | good call |
| 04:46.43 | Kueken | trying |
| 04:49.21 | JademusSreg | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/player-zone/map-feedback/29373-sid-meiers-civilization/ |
| 04:49.40 | JademusSreg | How can it be "Sid Meier's"? |
| 04:49.41 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 04:52.36 | Bounty | sigh |
| 04:52.37 | Bounty | Jademus |
| 04:52.39 | Bounty | what hsould i do |
| 04:52.44 | Bounty | Should i reboot the project? |
| 04:52.50 | Bounty | and try to keep it within a single map file |
| 04:53.51 | JademusSreg | It's reliance on custom assets has pretty much killed it. Custom models and their textures add up pretty quickly. |
| 04:54.03 | JademusSreg | In what format are the textures? |
| 04:54.09 | Bounty | let me check |
| 04:54.59 | Bounty | i wonder if its bc its a private mod? |
| 04:55.02 | Bounty | and a public map |
| 04:55.05 | Bounty | maybe? |
| 04:55.17 | Bounty | the textures are tga |
| 04:55.45 | JademusSreg | I wonder if you'd get better compression with dds textures. |
| 04:56.04 | JademusSreg | Anyway, could be because it's private. |
| 04:56.05 | Bounty | how hard would that be to do |
| 04:56.10 | JademusSreg | May as well test it. |
| 04:56.17 | Bounty | no har mcan be done right? |
| 04:56.18 | JademusSreg | It would be long and tedious. |
| 04:56.20 | Bounty | by making the mod public |
| 04:56.28 | Bounty | like, it wont fuck up the map |
| 04:56.34 | JademusSreg | By making it public, other people will be able to use it. |
| 04:56.36 | JademusSreg | That's all. |
| 04:57.00 | Bounty | it kinda makes sense though |
| 04:57.01 | Bounty | like |
| 04:57.07 | Bounty | Mexa brought up that this started after the Region merges |
| 04:57.14 | Bounty | private mod |
| 04:57.17 | Bounty | merged regions |
| 04:57.21 | Bounty | kinda makes sense |
| 04:57.55 | Bounty | nvm |
| 04:58.02 | Bounty | apparently there is no option for private/public in a mid |
| 04:58.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:58.50 | JademusSreg | = |
| 04:58.51 | JademusSreg | \ |
| 05:00.11 | JademusSreg | That doesn't sound right. |
| 05:00.44 | JademusSreg | Locked and Unlocked |
| 05:00.46 | Bounty | well im looking at it right now |
| 05:00.55 | Bounty | no private/public option |
| 05:00.56 | JademusSreg | Is it unlocked? |
| 05:01.10 | Bounty | locked |
| 05:01.17 | JademusSreg | Set it to unlocked. |
| 05:01.22 | JademusSreg | See if that changes anything. |
| 05:01.36 | Bounty | what if that somehow makes my map unlocked |
| 05:01.36 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:01.38 | JademusSreg | If it does, well, maybe I'll finally be able to move my music to a mod, haha. |
| 05:02.10 | Bounty | this shit makes me nervous |
| 05:02.16 | JademusSreg | Relax. |
| 05:02.24 | JademusSreg | If it doesn't work, it's doomed anyway. |
| 05:02.29 | JademusSreg | So it doesn't hurt to try. =D |
| 05:03.24 | Bounty | nobody can fuck wit hthe mod though right?? |
| 05:03.27 | Bounty | and affect TriFaction |
| 05:03.47 | JademusSreg | Right. |
| 05:03.50 | JademusSreg | They can only use it. |
| 05:04.05 | Bounty | also |
| 05:04.13 | Bounty | the mod doesnt use 2 of the dependancies the map uses |
| 05:04.23 | Bounty | the two campaign ones |
| 05:04.25 | JademusSreg | I doubt that matters. |
| 05:04.28 | JademusSreg | But try this first/ |
| 05:04.30 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 05:04.40 | Bounty | ok |
| 05:04.42 | Bounty | uploading it now |
| 05:04.47 | Bounty | wanan help test? |
| 05:04.51 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 05:05.33 | Bounty | got a stopwatch? |
| 05:05.34 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:13.02 | Bounty | so lame |
| 05:13.04 | Bounty | :( |
| 05:13.31 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 05:13.42 | JademusSreg | Dependency test then. |
| 05:14.17 | Bounty | should i add or remove all the mods dependancies |
| 05:14.27 | Bounty | i would think remove would be better? |
| 05:14.32 | Bounty | less to sync with right? |
| 05:14.55 | JademusSreg | Try one, then the other. |
| 05:15.02 | Bounty | kk |
| 05:15.07 | Bounty | removing all the dependancies in the mid then |
| 05:15.11 | Bounty | its just models neways |
| 05:15.15 | Bounty | doesnt need any dependancies |
| 05:18.06 | Bounty | uploading |
| 05:18.10 | Bounty | meet u in the channel JademusSreg |
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| 05:52.55 | JademusSreg | A Winner Is You. |
| 05:57.01 | Bounty | so pissed right now |
| 05:57.15 | Bounty | what more proof do they fucking need |
| 05:57.18 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:57.19 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:57.58 | JademusSreg | Blank map, blank mod, drop. |
| 06:00.27 | Bounty | yep |
| 06:00.29 | Bounty | seriously |
| 06:00.32 | Bounty | that is the ultimate proof |
| 06:00.38 | Bounty | u cant blame it on fucking anything else |
| 06:00.39 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:01.10 | Bounty | im nto going to stop bumping the threado n the bnet forums until we get a blue response |
| 06:01.12 | Bounty | fuck this shit |
| 06:06.27 | Kueken | whats the problem? |
| 06:08.17 | Bounty | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3754645556 |
| 06:10.12 | JademusSreg | Should have mentioned my name. Name drop the same way a handler gives a seal a sardine. |
| 06:10.32 | JademusSreg | Only instead of a seal, it's my narcissism. |
| 06:10.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:11.21 | Bounty | im so mad :( |
| 06:11.27 | Bounty | Blizzard killed my baby |
| 06:18.25 | Kueken | should mention in the loading screen: "If you crash, dont worry. Just start again, its normal." |
| 06:18.35 | Kueken | gives the impression of a quality map :D |
| 06:19.15 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 06:27.53 | Bounty | hmm |
| 06:27.58 | Bounty | i just sat in lobby by myself |
| 06:28.02 | Bounty | waited 5 minutes |
| 06:28.05 | Bounty | and didnt get dropped |
| 06:28.19 | Bounty | u think there is some merit behind the Fresh DL theory ? |
| 06:28.23 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 06:29.38 | JademusSreg | Yes, I think it might be related. |
| 06:42.17 | Bounty | nope |
| 06:42.18 | Bounty | its not |
| 06:42.19 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:43.35 | Bounty | just tested it |
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| 09:45.11 | Bitling | Hi |
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| 13:22.54 | Bitling | hi |
| 13:31.05 | Vandal | so much progress |
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| 14:11.53 | Ashamed | good morning |
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| 14:12.13 | Darkling_ | Guava |
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| 14:14.38 | Darkling_ | Guava! |
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| 14:38.04 | Ashamed | -.- work work |
| 14:50.42 | Darkling_ | immortal>archon.... right? |
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| 15:01.26 | Darkling_ | ?? |
| 15:03.22 | Ashamed | oh shiz |
| 15:03.31 | Ashamed | imortal archons ( Power over whelming ??? ) |
| 15:07.31 | Darkling_ | yes |
| 15:07.57 | Darkling_ | but which is better? |
| 15:08.05 | Darkling_ | an immortal or an archon? |
| 15:08.58 | Ashamed | or an imortal arcchon ? |
| 15:09.16 | Darkling_ | ugh |
| 15:09.41 | Darkling_ | i wish they kept the dark archon in some way |
| 15:10.01 | Ashamed | well they are |
| 15:10.06 | Ashamed | hots rember |
| 15:10.08 | Ashamed | that one unit |
| 15:10.12 | Ashamed | the lil robot thingh |
| 15:10.25 | Darkling_ | the transforming thing? |
| 15:10.31 | Ashamed | but i think imortals are just better ( tech wise ) its easier to get |
| 15:10.37 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 15:10.52 | Darkling_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.59 | Darkling_ | but it dosent have the mind control |
| 15:11.01 | Ashamed | can't you get a worker |
| 15:11.08 | Ashamed | it turns into the unit or w/e |
| 15:11.13 | Darkling_ | yeah |
| 15:11.49 | Ashamed | its the same shit then |
| 15:11.58 | Ashamed | i mean unless you just like the spell "Mind Control" better |
| 15:11.59 | Ashamed | ha |
| 15:12.10 | Darkling_ | buut |
| 15:12.15 | Darkling_ | it cant copy multiple units |
| 15:12.17 | Darkling_ | :) |
| 15:12.22 | Darkling_ | Dark archon is PO |
| 15:13.52 | Ashamed | dark archon was what 2 units at max when full of energy |
| 15:13.55 | Ashamed | i mean thats not much |
| 15:14.24 | Darkling_ | well yeah |
| 15:14.32 | Darkling_ | but my controled units usually died anyway |
| 15:15.24 | Ashamed | yerah |
| 15:15.29 | Ashamed | it was nearly impossable to do it |
| 15:16.02 | Darkling_ | true |
| 15:16.14 | Darkling_ | i guess it would be easier |
| 15:16.24 | Darkling_ | since you dont have to capture the unit and get it out of the base and all that |
| 15:16.47 | Darkling_ | but it would be nice to just be able to capture some siege tanks |
| 15:16.52 | Darkling_ | then kaboom |
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| 15:16.56 | Darkling_ | no terran d |
| 15:17.27 | Ashamed | the way i always did it was a suicide mission |
| 15:17.37 | Ashamed | bring like 10 dark archons and then just start MCING everything |
| 15:17.42 | Ashamed | and make all the workers RUN |
| 15:18.16 | Ashamed | but it was pretty much a waste to do because if you wasted your resources to get the unit than you would just die because you didn't really build an army |
| 15:18.30 | Darkling_ | haha |
| 15:18.38 | Darkling_ | see the main problem with that whole thing |
| 15:18.57 | Darkling_ | is that it woould be so hard to keep up with the other guy and build two tech trees at the same time |
| 15:19.07 | Ashamed | yeah lol |
| 15:19.13 | Ashamed | that you have 2 weak techs |
| 15:19.18 | Ashamed | and just get stompped anyways |
| 15:19.33 | Darkling_ | yep |
| 15:19.48 | Ashamed | yeah it prob only paid off for me once or twice the entire time i played sc |
| 15:19.53 | Ashamed | pc players were better for MC |
| 15:20.14 | Darkling_ | pc players? |
| 15:20.20 | Darkling_ | you mean instead of comps? |
| 15:20.32 | Ashamed | i meant to say Comps |
| 15:20.39 | Ashamed | COMPUTERS |
| 15:20.42 | Ashamed | AI |
| 15:20.48 | Darkling_ | yeah |
| 15:21.02 | Ashamed | and of course MC defense |
| 15:21.26 | Darkling_ | lol |
| 15:21.36 | Darkling_ | good times |
| 15:21.46 | Ashamed | i started to make a really cool MC defense... where it was not just focused on MC but you could upgrade your MIND CONTROL unit.. and like get more time to get units faster cast and shit like that |
| 15:22.14 | Ashamed | and i had Death counters instead of muitiple Archons lol |
| 15:22.21 | Darkling_ | you know, I dont get why they complain about the infestor |
| 15:22.29 | Ashamed | so if you had 3 archons... It still would all be the same archon until you ran out of juice |
| 15:22.33 | Darkling_ | did they even complain about the DA in sc1? |
| 15:22.44 | Ashamed | no |
| 15:22.55 | Darkling_ | so then why the fuck did they nerf? |
| 15:23.12 | Ashamed | -.- CUZ |
| 15:23.15 | Ashamed | they wanted |
| 15:23.31 | Darkling_ | buut |
| 15:23.34 | Darkling_ | still |
| 15:30.31 | Darkling_ | sweet |
| 15:30.37 | Darkling_ | terrans all finished up :) |
| 15:30.41 | Ashamed | oh shiz |
| 15:30.59 | Darkling_ | i think my map is gonna be fun :) |
| 15:31.09 | Darkling_ | although its cometetive |
| 15:31.14 | Darkling_ | competetive |
| 15:31.38 | Darkling_ | competitive |
| 15:31.42 | Darkling_ | dam ti |
| 15:31.44 | Darkling_ | it |
| 15:31.46 | Darkling_ | !!! |
| 15:32.05 | Ashamed | i dunno darkling |
| 15:32.15 | Ashamed | i have not seen too many competive maps do good on the sc2 engine yet |
| 15:32.27 | Darkling_ | Dota?? |
| 15:32.34 | Darkling_ | i think |
| 15:32.49 | Darkling_ | guess theres not that many |
| 15:33.57 | Ashamed | dota will be managed by blizzard though |
| 15:34.29 | Darkling_ | well yeah |
| 15:34.34 | Darkling_ | i meant the general dota/moba |
| 15:34.42 | Ashamed | i feel like the reason why its that way is becuase blizzard is managing the competive end of their game good and people play custom for fun |
| 15:35.00 | Darkling_ | probably |
| 15:35.14 | Darkling_ | I usually do customs as a break from the competetion |
| 15:35.22 | Darkling_ | competition |
| 15:37.07 | Darkling_ | my main fear is getting it up the list |
| 15:37.26 | Darkling_ | i have no idea how to get it started, other than posting about it everywhere |
| 15:37.44 | Ashamed | what map is it? |
| 15:37.57 | Darkling_ | I dont have a name for it yet :/ |
| 15:38.25 | Darkling_ | basically you start out with a base and you spawn units inside it, you use the tower to command the units to attack other towers/bases |
| 15:38.40 | Darkling_ | its a 4player FFA' |
| 15:39.49 | Ashamed | call it 4 player ffa |
| 15:42.14 | Darkling_ | seems a bit basic :/ |
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| 15:51.35 | Alrik | ho |
| 15:58.34 | Darkling_ | protoss is finished up! |
| 16:00.27 | Darkling_ | uhhhm |
| 16:00.46 | Darkling_ | ohhh |
| 16:00.47 | Darkling_ | nvm |
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| 16:12.26 | Ashamed | FU PROTOS |
| 16:13.30 | Darkling_ | waa |
| 16:13.30 | Darkling_ | why |
| 16:13.44 | Ashamed | i dunno |
| 16:13.48 | Ashamed | just thought i would say it for you |
| 16:13.57 | Darkling_ | oh I C |
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| 16:20.39 | Darkling_ | YAY |
| 16:20.50 | Darkling_ | zerg,protoss,terran are all finished! |
| 16:20.57 | Darkling_ | my map is ready for Beta! :) |
| 16:25.16 | Ashamed | fucking quick books |
| 16:25.46 | Darkling_ | lol? |
| 16:25.50 | Darkling_ | now I just need a name |
| 16:25.59 | Alrik | EPic Game JOIN ALL!!!11 |
| 16:26.39 | Darkling_ | perhaps something... less obnoxious?? |
| 16:26.55 | Ashamed | !!! |
| 16:26.56 | Ashamed | i like it |
| 16:27.12 | Ashamed | Call it Starcraft Pro |
| 16:29.01 | Darkling_ | how about... ST/-\RCR/-\FT |o r ()? |
| 16:29.23 | Darkling_ | or |
| 16:29.25 | Ashamed | fuck no |
| 16:29.33 | Darkling_ | just ST/-\RCR/-\FT |
| 16:29.39 | Alrik | void main() Beta |
| 16:30.06 | Alrik | the program of death |
| 16:30.16 | Ahli | public static int main(String[] args){return 1/0;} |
| 16:30.21 | Darkling_ | how about... \/()| |)? |
| 16:30.29 | Alrik | ^^ |
| 16:30.45 | Alrik | call is Kirby Super Pinball and everyone will join^^ |
| 16:31.04 | Darkling_ | haha |
| 16:31.06 | Darkling_ | no |
| 16:31.22 | Alrik | ok then.. Darklings |
| 16:31.36 | Ahli | just name it "BIizzard DOTA" the l is a big I |
| 16:31.42 | Alrik | ^^ |
| 16:31.47 | Darkling_ | lol? |
| 16:33.38 | Ahli | *big i |
| 16:37.24 | Darkling_ | I like it |
| 16:37.33 | Darkling_ | no |
| 16:37.34 | Darkling_ | i dont |
| 16:37.45 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 16:38.09 | Darkling_ | I like \/ | () |) \/\/ /-\ R S. |
| 16:38.20 | Darkling_ | I wish I could do a cool R |
| 16:38.21 | Darkling_ | or S |
| 16:38.55 | Darkling_ | so now Ive got 9 units for each race |
| 16:43.45 | Vandal | Hi Jademus |
| 16:43.48 | Vandal | do you know Eiviyn? |
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| 16:44.12 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 16:44.22 | Vandal | My job offer made the front page @_@ |
| 16:44.25 | JademusSreg | I know of Eiviyn. |
| 16:44.29 | Vandal | I think the threads are about to explode |
| 16:45.30 | Darkling_ | \/ | () |) \/\/ /-\ ® § |
| 16:45.44 | Darkling_ | wow that R is small |
| 16:46.26 | JademusSreg | Dark, a name like that will kill the map. |
| 16:46.50 | Vandal | I didn't realize that was a name |
| 16:47.11 | Darkling_ | why? |
| 16:47.16 | JademusSreg | If people can't read it or write it, they won't be able to refer to the map. |
| 16:47.30 | Darkling_ | its just VOIDWARS |
| 16:47.31 | Darkling_ | see |
| 16:48.39 | JademusSreg | "Hey guys, I justp layed this map called, uh, it's a bunch of parantheses and shit, uh. We should all play it.... (what was it called? ... nevermind, I can't find it via search or by page. Nevermind, sorry, let's play BattleCraft or something else comparably awful." |
| 16:48.41 | Alrik | *hates UV mapping... |
| 16:48.48 | JademusSreg | It would be like that. |
| 16:49.01 | Darkling_ | OIC |
| 16:49.46 | Alrik | ..xD |
| 16:50.07 | Xaragoth | Alrik |
| 16:50.11 | Alrik | yeah tetris classic melody just started playing on my media player xD |
| 16:50.11 | Xaragoth | UV Mapping isn't the bad thing |
| 16:50.21 | Xaragoth | noticing your UV fucked up your normal bake and you have to redo it |
| 16:50.23 | Xaragoth | THAT is the pain |
| 16:50.24 | Xaragoth | ~ |
| 16:50.30 | Alrik | YEP |
| 16:50.47 | Alrik | i am just resculpting my balrog the 3rd... wait.. 4th time !:D |
| 16:51.18 | Alrik | but this time with seperated and additional armor |
| 16:51.55 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 16:52.12 | Xaragoth | I'm currently rendering some stuff |
| 16:52.17 | Xaragoth | and hope that in 10m I can finally play SWTOR |
| 16:52.18 | Xaragoth | =) |
| 16:52.23 | Alrik | xD |
| 16:52.33 | Darkling_ | I dont know what to name it! |
| 16:52.34 | Xaragoth | let me in bioware |
| 16:52.37 | Darkling_ | its so purplexing |
| 16:52.43 | Xaragoth | I must destroy your game with my cynism. |
| 16:52.45 | Alrik | today is games day, so I m going to play munchkin or siedler von catan ;> |
| 16:53.00 | Xaragoth | we still have the catan board game here somewhere :> |
| 16:53.15 | Alrik | yeah we got all (2 ^^) expanisions |
| 16:53.23 | Xaragoth | I'm listening to: http://youtu.be/ejEVczA8PLU |
| 16:53.26 | Xaragoth | since 3 days |
| 16:53.29 | Xaragoth | because it keeps me calm |
| 16:53.30 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 16:53.37 | Alrik | youtu.be ? |
| 16:53.50 | Alrik | thats correct?^^ |
| 16:54.09 | Alrik | seems so, haha hakuna |
| 16:54.14 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 16:54.20 | Xaragoth | it's their new short link version |
| 16:54.26 | Alrik | before my hdd crash i had that in at least 10 dfferent languages |
| 16:54.42 | Alrik | was always fun to listen to |
| 16:55.33 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 16:55.38 | Xaragoth | I still have a lot of the movies on my HDD |
| 16:55.45 | Ashamed | mby you should back up your HDD |
| 16:55.47 | Xaragoth | just because they are still damn awesome |
| 16:55.50 | Xaragoth | I do so |
| 16:55.51 | Xaragoth | Daily |
| 16:55.52 | Xaragoth | .d |
| 16:55.57 | Ashamed | xargoth i have about 1 tb of movies and software |
| 16:55.58 | Xaragoth | on 2 HDDs |
| 16:56.38 | Ashamed | i wasnt talking to you about backup xaragoth i was talking about the noob that had their hdd crash |
| 16:56.56 | Xaragoth | ah, kay |
| 16:57.02 | Xaragoth | I have some people on ignore Ashamed ;D |
| 16:58.40 | Ashamed | well not alrik lol |
| 16:58.43 | Ashamed | you were talking to him |
| 16:59.05 | Xaragoth | indeed |
| 17:00.37 | Alrik | lol |
| 17:01.09 | Alrik | that was back in 2008 or sth..^^ my computer fell from a chair before a lan party :D |
| 17:01.21 | Alrik | today I am backing up, sometimes..^^ |
| 17:01.44 | Ashamed | lol |
| 17:02.03 | Ashamed | mirror = the way to go |
| 17:02.26 | Alrik | but HDDs are not so cheap anymore ;) |
| 17:02.33 | Ashamed | yeah they are... |
| 17:02.35 | Alrik | thanx to Thailand |
| 17:02.36 | Ashamed | i mean a bit more |
| 17:02.38 | Ashamed | like 20-30% |
| 17:02.40 | Ashamed | but w/e |
| 17:02.51 | Ashamed | but yeah i got my last 2 tb for like 50 bucks lol |
| 17:03.03 | Ashamed | and it was like 6 months ago so before the flooding |
| 17:03.04 | Ashamed | ;) |
| 17:03.13 | Ashamed | externals are still pretty cheap |
| 17:03.19 | Alrik | yeah me to with a 1tb, in april i got my new pc |
| 17:03.21 | Ashamed | i dont believe many are manufactured in thailand |
| 17:03.38 | Xaragoth | and not in |
| 17:03.39 | Xaragoth | RAGE |
| 17:03.44 | Alrik | haha |
| 17:03.44 | Xaragoth | SEETHING HOW RAGE AND FURY |
| 17:03.46 | Alrik | fail |
| 17:03.54 | Xaragoth | picks up his axe and lumbers people. |
| 17:12.36 | Ashamed | my head is kinda hurting :( |
| 17:20.28 | Xaragoth | stop thinking |
| 17:20.55 | Ashamed | i cant :( i am at work |
| 17:21.03 | Ashamed | mby for lunch though |
| 17:21.05 | Ashamed | 1 more hour... |
| 17:23.14 | Alrik | epic |
| 17:26.01 | Alrik | Gladiator soundtrack rulez^^ |
| 17:31.34 | JademusSreg | http://kotaku.com/5868364/one-mans-turned-star-warss-battle-of-hoth-into-a-starcraft-2-map |
| 17:31.59 | JademusSreg | Looks like a lucky mapper got news'd. |
| 17:33.41 | Xaragoth | also |
| 17:33.43 | Xaragoth | horrible terrain |
| 17:33.47 | Xaragoth | but nice snow abuse |
| 17:33.52 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 17:49.55 | Ashamed | i like the concept though |
| 17:56.18 | Ashamed | god my head still hurts :( |
| 18:07.33 | Ashamed | bum bum bum |
| 18:10.16 | Ahli | did anyone already use the alliance validator? I would like to tell my effect set to only effect units that belong to players which are allied to me (despide that I am allied to them). But I can't seem to get the validators correct for that :S |
| 18:12.54 | Ashamed | not i :( |
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| 18:23.26 | Darkling_ | I finally figured out what that _ after my name is |
| 18:23.35 | Darkling_ | its because I press tab after I type in my name |
| 18:25.12 | Darkling_ | anybody know if the SC2 dialog dsigner is any good? |
| 18:25.15 | Darkling_ | or if it works? |
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| 18:40.00 | Bitling | hi |
| 18:40.09 | Darkling_ | ugh |
| 18:40.18 | Darkling_ | why are my towers auto attacking?? |
| 18:41.46 | Darkling_ | time to finish for the day |
| 18:41.57 | Darkling_ | i think ive made a lot of progress |
| 18:44.42 | Darkling_ | the only problem.. |
| 18:44.48 | Darkling_ | I dont have anything else to do |
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| 18:48.33 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 18:48.34 | Darkling_ | Guava |
| 18:48.40 | Bounty | Is Xaragoth here? |
| 18:48.45 | Darkling_ | of course |
| 18:48.57 | Bounty | By here i mean, not afk :) |
| 18:49.04 | Darkling_ | :P |
| 18:49.14 | Bounty | I require more of his Terraining Wisdom |
| 18:49.19 | Darkling_ | ooo |
| 18:49.23 | Darkling_ | sounds fun |
| 18:49.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hey guys is it possible to pan the camera around a unit using wasd |
| 18:49.32 | Bounty | Unless someone here knows |
| 18:49.46 | Bounty | What value effects how far away you see fog? |
| 18:49.49 | Darkling_ | i might be able to help |
| 18:49.54 | Bounty | Like, terrain fog |
| 18:50.28 | JademusSreg | How's this: Yo momma so dumb she thinks Bayesian inference is a measure of the confidence of the size of a cinematic explosion. Yo momma so stupid she thinks a Geiger counter is used to detect xenomorphs. Yo momma so ignorant she thinks Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle means you can't know with arbitrary precision the position and velocity of blue meth. |
| 18:51.36 | Darkling_ | what are you looking to do bounty? |
| 18:51.37 | JademusSreg | Terrain fog is defined in the Terrain Texture, Bounty. |
| 18:51.45 | Bounty | No shit Jademus |
| 18:51.46 | JademusSreg | Terrain Texture Set, rather. |
| 18:51.53 | Bounty | But what value affects the distance at which you see fog |
| 18:52.01 | Bounty | like if i wanted to blend it with something |
| 18:52.06 | Bounty | say, a personal skybox |
| 18:52.09 | Bounty | how would i set the distance |
| 18:52.12 | JademusSreg | Dragon, sure, but it would be laggy on bnet. |
| 18:52.13 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | wouldnt it be something to do with camera |
| 18:52.14 | Bounty | from your unit |
| 18:52.18 | Bounty | to the skybox |
| 18:52.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | jade i dont care my movement system is already laggy |
| 18:52.40 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 18:52.47 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i was only gonna enable if singleplayer |
| 18:53.09 | JademusSreg | You'd just modify the player camera or cameradata in response to the input. |
| 18:53.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thats what i was thinking i just dont know which values to edit |
| 18:53.42 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | right now i have input locked and it follows unit |
| 18:54.23 | JademusSreg | How did you want to use WASD? |
| 18:54.33 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | um think of wow |
| 18:54.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | and diablo put together |
| 18:54.48 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | wasd doesnt move unit just camera |
| 18:54.58 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | you clikc to move unit |
| 18:55.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i just want to add depth to my game its tp |
| 18:55.49 | JademusSreg | That sounds pretty obnoxious and counter intuitive, but no matter. If you're moving the camera in response to WASD directionally, then you'd pan the camera. |
| 18:56.24 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i also want it to always look at hero |
| 18:56.27 | JademusSreg | Of course, to do that, you'll need to disable the following. |
| 18:56.43 | A1win | rotating the camera? |
| 18:56.49 | JademusSreg | If you want to rotate the camera in response to wasd, you'd modify yaw. |
| 18:56.55 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i want the camera to show different perspectives of the unit |
| 18:56.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thats it |
| 18:57.06 | A1win | yaw for horizontal rotation, angle of attack for vertical rotation |
| 18:57.13 | JademusSreg | Jaja |
| 18:57.19 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 18:57.25 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ill try that] |
| 18:57.58 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | see my goal is to change the way the diablo controls ferel give you the freedom to look around |
| 18:59.29 | A1win | I was thinking of a game mechanic where the player would need to first deduce what kind of an enemy he'll encounter next by watching for clues in the environment and then prepare a thing to get past it, but if he doesn't do the preparation before he sees the enemy, it's already too late and he needs to flee back to the direction he came from (the enemy chasing him) |
| 19:00.05 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | there is no yaw option |
| 19:00.15 | A1win | rotation perhaps? |
| 19:00.19 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | in set camera object property |
| 19:00.24 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | tghere is rotation |
| 19:01.30 | Darkling_ | ugh |
| 19:01.47 | Darkling_ | my dog has been having these wierd seizure like things going on |
| 19:02.03 | Darkling_ | he just had one |
| 19:02.06 | Darkling_ | >.> |
| 19:02.12 | Darkling_ | ): |
| 19:02.48 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thats not good |
| 19:03.16 | Darkling_ | yeah |
| 19:03.31 | Darkling_ | hes like 8 |
| 19:03.50 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | my dog is 15 she is not eating :( |
| 19:03.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hasnt eaten in 4 days |
| 19:04.07 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its stressing me out |
| 19:04.17 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | making it hard to map |
| 19:04.34 | Darkling_ | wow |
| 19:04.37 | Darkling_ | 4 days? |
| 19:04.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya |
| 19:04.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | if she does eat she pukes it up |
| 19:05.01 | Darkling_ | wow |
| 19:05.04 | Darkling_ | thats not good |
| 19:05.15 | Bounty | prolly dieng |
| 19:05.17 | Darkling_ | what did the vet say? |
| 19:05.26 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | shes dieing we know that |
| 19:05.42 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | we cant afford to put her down |
| 19:05.53 | Xaragoth | Bounty: Playing SWTOR. Got in now. |
| 19:05.56 | Xaragoth | No time. |
| 19:06.00 | Bounty | Xara |
| 19:06.03 | Bounty | its a quick question |
| 19:06.07 | Bounty | easy one for u |
| 19:06.08 | Xaragoth | shoot |
| 19:06.13 | Bounty | what value is it to set the fog distance |
| 19:06.17 | Bounty | like if i have a personal skybox |
| 19:06.24 | Bounty | and i want to blend it with the fog |
| 19:06.31 | Bounty | how do i set the distance at which the fog starts from your unit |
| 19:08.01 | Xaragoth | oh god ... fade distance, I believe |
| 19:08.06 | Xaragoth | under terrain texture set |
| 19:08.14 | Xaragoth | I just use 500er scale fog doodads |
| 19:08.18 | Xaragoth | way cooler |
| 19:08.18 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 19:08.29 | Bounty | there is no fade |
| 19:08.30 | Bounty | its |
| 19:08.32 | Bounty | Density |
| 19:08.33 | Bounty | Falloff |
| 19:08.34 | Bounty | Far |
| 19:08.36 | Bounty | Near |
| 19:08.56 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | change near |
| 19:09.08 | A1win | falloff means fade from near to far |
| 19:09.19 | Bounty | so |
| 19:09.23 | Bounty | Fog distacne falloff? |
| 19:09.26 | Bounty | or just near |
| 19:09.36 | A1win | uh falloff is a separate value? |
| 19:09.38 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im thinking near is where fog starts |
| 19:09.40 | Xaragoth | falloff and far |
| 19:09.40 | Xaragoth | should do it |
| 19:09.48 | Bounty | so dont change near? |
| 19:10.03 | Bounty | >< |
| 19:10.11 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | do both and see what happens |
| 19:10.15 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | :P |
| 19:10.20 | Bounty | looks like thats whta im gonna have to do |
| 19:10.28 | Bounty | i expected an instant resolution from xara |
| 19:10.32 | Bounty | =P |
| 19:10.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i think near is where the fog will start |
| 19:10.48 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so logically that is the right one |
| 19:11.24 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thickness moslikely os the distance from far and near reletive to falloff density |
| 19:11.28 | Bounty | btw |
| 19:11.31 | Bounty | the shit looks amazing |
| 19:11.36 | Bounty | blended with the personal player skybox |
| 19:11.41 | Bounty | but iuts just to close |
| 19:11.45 | Bounty | like u cant see much lol |
| 19:11.46 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i didnt know you can make player boxes |
| 19:11.53 | Bounty | duplicate a probe |
| 19:11.57 | Bounty | set the model to a skybox |
| 19:12.02 | Bounty | and have it follow the player |
| 19:12.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 19:12.13 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so its like a virtual sky right |
| 19:12.14 | Bounty | but |
| 19:12.18 | Bounty | u gotta set it to burrowed |
| 19:12.20 | Xaragoth | bounty: fog is experimenting anyways |
| 19:12.22 | Bounty | so only that player can see it |
| 19:12.46 | Bounty | it looks pretty cool xara |
| 19:12.47 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:12.52 | Bounty | AND |
| 19:12.53 | A1win | *cloaked (and burrowed to hide the visual cloak effect) |
| 19:12.54 | Bounty | performance gains :) |
| 19:12.57 | Bounty | lower draw distance |
| 19:13.42 | Bounty | uploading a SS real quick |
| 19:13.56 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | - rotatiolns makes it go left and positive makes it go right, right |
| 19:14.23 | A1win | increasing rotation makes it turn counterclockwise and decreasing clockwise |
| 19:15.02 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | now thqats horizontal i need verticle rotation |
| 19:15.11 | A1win | angle of attack |
| 19:15.16 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 19:15.24 | Bounty | near doesnt seem to do nething |
| 19:15.27 | A1win | 90 is top-down, 0 is horizontal, -90 (or 270) is bottom-up |
| 19:15.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | same pronciple as rotation + = Up - = down |
| 19:16.15 | A1win | you're not moving the camera up or down, you're changing an angle |
| 19:16.22 | Bounty | lol wtf |
| 19:16.24 | Bounty | near and far |
| 19:16.26 | Bounty | didnt do JACK shit |
| 19:16.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | really |
| 19:16.48 | Bounty | yeah |
| 19:16.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hmm then im all out of answers |
| 19:16.56 | Bounty | this is why i wanted to ask Xara |
| 19:16.58 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | sorry |
| 19:16.58 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:16.59 | Bounty | its ok |
| 19:17.07 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i try |
| 19:17.09 | Bounty | ive yet to find someone who can explain this to me >< |
| 19:17.14 | Bounty | i THINK |
| 19:17.19 | Bounty | it might be density |
| 19:17.34 | A1win | falloff should have something to do with fade |
| 19:17.45 | A1win | why don't you just change the values and look in the editor what changes =p |
| 19:17.52 | A1win | turn up graphic settings |
| 19:17.53 | Bounty | i set these values to 10 |
| 19:17.58 | Bounty | Fog Distance Falloff |
| 19:18.03 | Bounty | Fog Distance Far |
| 19:18.10 | Bounty | and Fog Distance Near |
| 19:18.11 | Bounty | no change |
| 19:18.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lower density |
| 19:18.24 | Bounty | honestly |
| 19:18.30 | Bounty | i think its density |
| 19:18.31 | Bounty | i just lowered it |
| 19:18.33 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 19:18.35 | Bounty | its still as thick |
| 19:18.39 | Bounty | but from a farther distance |
| 19:18.43 | A1win | are you modifying the right texture set ;p |
| 19:18.53 | Bounty | nigga |
| 19:18.55 | Bounty | i will slap u |
| 19:18.57 | Bounty | dont talk down to me |
| 19:19.01 | Bounty | =P |
| 19:19.10 | Bounty | im not THAT stupid |
| 19:19.29 | Bitling | hi |
| 19:19.32 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | do you have multiple textures in one spot |
| 19:19.44 | Bounty | ? |
| 19:19.46 | A1win | I was trying to imply sarcasm with the smilie |
| 19:19.51 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:20.02 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | wait nvm what i said |
| 19:20.15 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | nooby moment there |
| 19:20.17 | Bounty | man |
| 19:20.21 | Bounty | this shit is going to look like fap material |
| 19:20.24 | Bounty | when i get this |
| 19:20.37 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | is there a way to get rid of fog |
| 19:20.41 | Bounty | yeah |
| 19:20.49 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | start from there |
| 19:20.52 | Bounty | =P |
| 19:21.00 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | just a thought |
| 19:26.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok moving camera the way i want doesnt work with it locked have to try it unloacked |
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| 19:34.56 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | has anybody noticed that the pm notification system is buggy on the site right now it shows i have 2 pms when i dont |
| 19:43.47 | Bitling | Hmm... so apaprantly I have begun patching from starcraft 2 retail now. That's going to take forever on this 2Mbit net :< |
| 19:44.20 | Kueken1 | maybe there are external patch files available for download? |
| 19:44.31 | Bitling | That doesn't matter |
| 19:44.38 | Bitling | it's still a shitty network |
| 19:44.59 | Bitling | The issue lies on our isp subscription being only 2/2 |
| 19:45.27 | Kueken1 | ok |
| 19:45.47 | Xaragoth | I will personally book a flight to visit Bioware |
| 19:45.49 | Xaragoth | and set them on fire |
| 19:45.54 | Xaragoth | how can one company fuck this up so bad |
| 19:45.57 | Xaragoth | this has mythic all over it |
| 19:45.58 | Xaragoth | -_- |
| 19:46.00 | Kueken1 | for me the SC2 auto patcher is slow as hell, thought you are referring to that |
| 19:46.06 | Bitling | So yeah, topspeed when not using the network to something else is 250KB/s |
| 19:46.15 | Bitling | Oh, nah |
| 19:46.23 | Bitling | I'm just overall complaining:P |
| 19:46.59 | Bitling | But yeah, the downloaded seems to have a speed about 180KB/s |
| 19:47.02 | Bitling | whoopiedoo |
| 19:47.07 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i cant get my camera to move properly |
| 19:49.58 | nicoli_s | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx:yes we know about the pm issue, its on our todo list to fix |
| 19:50.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok just wondering |
| 19:56.47 | Ashamed | dont wonder |
| 19:56.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 19:57.15 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok i cant seem to fo this |
| 19:57.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | have the camera rotate around unit but unit doens not move |
| 19:57.49 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i want to use wasd to ove the camera but i cant seem to get it to work |
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| 19:58.42 | Darkling_ | why not? |
| 19:58.59 | Darkling_ | that was one of the earliest projects I did... |
| 19:59.00 | LunarDoom | does any1 know how to take the conponets of a .SC2 componets file and merge them |
| 19:59.02 | LunarDoom | ? |
| 19:59.27 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | dark how did you do it i cant seem to get it to work |
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| 20:01.37 | Bounty | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/fogv.jpg/ |
| 20:02.07 | Bounty | hows that? |
| 20:03.16 | Darkling_ | triggers :P |
| 20:03.27 | Darkling_ | Sorry I dont remember its been like a year |
| 20:03.38 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | damn |
| 20:03.56 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i just want to have this level of perspective it seems i cant do it |
| 20:04.00 | Darkling_ | did you look through the forums? |
| 20:04.34 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im looking now |
| 20:04.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its not helping for what i need |
| 20:04.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | basically you have a wasd movements but the camera and movement is switched |
| 20:05.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | move camera with wasd and move unit with clicking |
| 20:05.55 | Bounty | Xaragoth |
| 20:06.05 | Bounty | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/fogv.jpg/ |
| 20:06.06 | Bounty | Good? |
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| 20:06.41 | Karawasa | hey guys |
| 20:06.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hi kara |
| 20:07.20 | Karawasa | anyone here experienced with data? |
| 20:07.33 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | depends |
| 20:07.49 | Karawasa | ? |
| 20:08.06 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im know some stuff with data |
| 20:08.18 | Karawasa | this should be simple |
| 20:08.23 | Karawasa | I duplicated yamato cannon ability |
| 20:08.31 | Xaragoth | Bounty: Ye, just a bit more work on the ground textures and less flat terrain would make it better |
| 20:08.42 | Karawasa | but my new ability doesn't work |
| 20:08.43 | Bounty | its only flat at the portal Xara |
| 20:08.45 | Xaragoth | afk playing now |
| 20:08.47 | Karawasa | like the target filters work |
| 20:08.56 | Karawasa | if I target a non-structure (for instance) I get error |
| 20:09.00 | Karawasa | which is correct |
| 20:09.06 | Karawasa | but if I target an allowed thing |
| 20:09.12 | Karawasa | like structure, does nothing, no cooldown |
| 20:09.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hmmm |
| 20:09.27 | Karawasa | and it allows me to target ground |
| 20:09.30 | Karawasa | which is weird |
| 20:09.37 | Karawasa | figured it should be unit only for target |
| 20:10.25 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | did you check the effects |
| 20:10.37 | Karawasa | yes |
| 20:10.38 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | is everything linked properly i mean |
| 20:10.40 | Karawasa | oh |
| 20:10.42 | Karawasa | sec |
| 20:11.03 | Karawasa | it has no effect |
| 20:11.24 | Karawasa | do abilities that target need an effect? |
| 20:11.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya |
| 20:11.32 | Karawasa | I know that ability with no target works w/o effect |
| 20:11.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | the original has 2 effects |
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| 20:11.58 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | dammage and missile |
| 20:12.12 | Karawasa | hmm |
| 20:12.25 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | wjhich yamato did you dupe |
| 20:12.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | theres 4 |
| 20:12.47 | Karawasa | battlecruiser - yamato |
| 20:12.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 20:12.55 | Bounty | Lol |
| 20:12.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya it should have 2 effects |
| 20:13.04 | Bounty | apparently i cant be on mapcraft bc i made a troll thread awhile ago |
| 20:13.06 | Bounty | funny shit |
| 20:13.18 | Karawasa | dragon |
| 20:13.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | yes |
| 20:13.24 | Karawasa | it has only one effect I see |
| 20:13.25 | Karawasa | missile |
| 20:13.30 | Karawasa | the default |
| 20:13.32 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | should have damag |
| 20:13.38 | Karawasa | weird |
| 20:13.42 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hmmmm |
| 20:13.53 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im looking at the ability |
| 20:14.00 | Karawasa | same :P |
| 20:14.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hmmmmm |
| 20:14.04 | Bounty | I should start my own podcast |
| 20:14.06 | Karawasa | but why is effect even needed? |
| 20:14.08 | Bounty | for all the cool mappers |
| 20:14.16 | Bounty | to discuss how lame mods are on mapster |
| 20:14.21 | Bounty | >< |
| 20:14.24 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | well the missile one shold have the vliadators |
| 20:14.25 | Karawasa | ability with no target doesn't need effect |
| 20:14.40 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | yours has no target |
| 20:14.50 | Karawasa | er |
| 20:14.56 | Karawasa | I was just using example |
| 20:14.58 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 20:15.01 | Karawasa | I want this one to have target |
| 20:15.10 | Karawasa | but wondering if "effect" is the cause of my problem |
| 20:15.11 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so you mean effect - instant needs no effect |
| 20:15.13 | Karawasa | yes |
| 20:15.15 | Karawasa | in general |
| 20:15.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it might be |
| 20:15.31 | Karawasa | but you're saying effect - target needs an effect |
| 20:15.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | no |
| 20:15.45 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im saying that yamato uses it |
| 20:15.53 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so it might need it |
| 20:15.56 | Karawasa | oh |
| 20:16.10 | Karawasa | hmm |
| 20:16.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | something wasnt linked properly |
| 20:16.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | usualyy hapens when you dupe stuff |
| 20:16.44 | Karawasa | ic |
| 20:17.10 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | do you need the base ability |
| 20:17.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | cause you can just modify the one that is there |
| 20:18.55 | Karawasa | lol |
| 20:18.59 | Karawasa | you are right |
| 20:19.01 | Karawasa | :) |
| 20:19.04 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | really |
| 20:19.11 | Karawasa | effect - target requires effect |
| 20:19.18 | Karawasa | doesn't need to be yamato |
| 20:19.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it was literaly a shot in the dark |
| 20:19.23 | Karawasa | any effect works |
| 20:19.27 | Karawasa | even dummy one |
| 20:19.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 20:19.33 | Karawasa | just (none) fails |
| 20:19.40 | Karawasa | thanks |
| 20:19.45 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | sometimes a noob can figure it out |
| 20:19.48 | Karawasa | haha |
| 20:19.49 | Karawasa | :) |
| 20:19.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ive been mapping for 2 months |
| 20:20.10 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | going on 3 now i guess |
| 20:20.19 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | sept 12 is when i started |
| 20:20.47 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but i make spells so it makes sense i knew that |
| 20:21.03 | Karawasa | glad you did |
| 20:21.07 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 20:21.24 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | also i knew that duping cuses issues |
| 20:26.20 | Karawasa | thanks again |
| 20:34.34 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | picth is verticle and yaw is horizontal right |
| 20:38.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | yes it is |
| 20:43.25 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | got my camera to work i was using wrong action lol go figure |
| 20:55.46 | Ashamed | n00b |
| 21:00.33 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thanks ashamed |
| 21:06.45 | Bounty | i eat pussies like you for breakfast |
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| 21:09.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok i got my camera to work how do i make if i look dopwn the lateral map it only shows what i want to see so that the fps doesnt go down to like 1 |
| 21:10.11 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it has to do with far clip rigth |
| 21:12.59 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:13.08 | Bounty | ur gonna need to make a personal skybox for the players though |
| 21:13.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but the problem is its not working |
| 21:13.12 | Bounty | or they will just see blackness |
| 21:13.32 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it still shows down the map |
| 21:13.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i have it set at 25 |
| 21:14.02 | Bounty | did u make a camera object and apply it? |
| 21:14.06 | Bounty | or are you using the data editor |
| 21:14.07 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it works for my hero select just not game camera |
| 21:14.07 | Darkling_ | Dragon is your map WASD? |
| 21:14.25 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | for camera movement yes |
| 21:14.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | unit movement no |
| 21:14.35 | Darkling_ | IC |
| 21:14.38 | Bounty | huh? |
| 21:14.40 | Bounty | HUH? |
| 21:14.46 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i have it panning around unit no problem its just |
| 21:14.47 | Bounty | i dont get it |
| 21:14.56 | Bounty | wasd for camera movement but not unit movement |
| 21:14.58 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok bounty |
| 21:15.02 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya |
| 21:15.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its a diablo map btw |
| 21:15.16 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im just adding more to it |
| 21:15.20 | Bounty | then why do you need farclip |
| 21:15.22 | Bounty | should be top down |
| 21:15.27 | Bounty | slightly tilted |
| 21:15.32 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im making it variable camera angles |
| 21:15.46 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | you can set the angle you want |
| 21:15.55 | Bounty | seems unfair |
| 21:15.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ads more to gameplay |
| 21:16.05 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | why is that unfair |
| 21:16.09 | Bounty | ppl with better PC's would be able to see further in front of them |
| 21:16.13 | Bounty | by going into thirdp erson view |
| 21:16.30 | Darkling_ | thats not that big of a deal though |
| 21:16.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | no im making the seeing part only up to fog |
| 21:16.54 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so it will. be black |
| 21:17.09 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its just to be able to see like dors and stuf at a better angle |
| 21:17.17 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | making it more 3d like |
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| 21:20.09 | Firefly3002 | Hi, i am trying to find the Field Path for Cooldown TimeUse on a ability |
| 21:20.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its under cost+ |
| 21:21.15 | Firefly3002 | im trying to do it with triggers.. the catalog |
| 21:21.28 | Firefly3002 | Cost[0].Cooldown.TimeUse doesn't seem to work... |
| 21:21.33 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hmmm |
| 21:21.55 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it should |
| 21:22.17 | Bounty | why would you use catalog |
| 21:22.18 | Bounty | hint |
| 21:22.23 | Bounty | just go to actions and search |
| 21:22.25 | Bounty | COOLDOWN |
| 21:22.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 21:23.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i would say if you doing it through triggers make a wait time |
| 21:24.38 | Firefly3002 | ah ill rather not do it that way |
| 21:24.53 | Bounty | ? |
| 21:25.00 | Bounty | but you just said you wanted to do it with triggers |
| 21:25.05 | Bounty | catalogs are editing DATA |
| 21:25.11 | Firefly3002 | with the catalog |
| 21:25.20 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:25.23 | Bounty | why though |
| 21:25.29 | Bounty | u can just use it with trigger |
| 21:25.41 | Firefly3002 | Catalog Field Value Set |
| 21:25.58 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.12 | Firefly3002 | i want to change the number on the cooldown |
| 21:26.14 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:26.18 | Bounty | there ya go |
| 21:26.20 | Bounty | like i said |
| 21:26.21 | Firefly3002 | lol |
| 21:26.25 | Bounty | search cooldown |
| 21:26.25 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:26.46 | Firefly3002 | it wont work with my level up system |
| 21:26.52 | Bounty | lol wtf |
| 21:26.58 | Bounty | why not |
| 21:27.07 | Vandal | hrrm. |
| 21:27.34 | Vandal | I need a Starcraft themed name for a category of ranged specialists, using psionics powers and magic, if magic exists |
| 21:27.48 | Vandal | (and no, Ghost does not work for this) |
| 21:27.59 | Bounty | Templar |
| 21:28.09 | Vandal | It has to describe a wide variety of heroes |
| 21:28.09 | Bounty | Psionic |
| 21:28.21 | Vandal | the categories it is displayed with are Brawler and Scout |
| 21:28.45 | Bounty | Psion |
| 21:28.50 | Vandal | Psion ? |
| 21:28.53 | Vandal | Does that work? |
| 21:28.59 | Bounty | uses Psionic powers |
| 21:29.01 | Vandal | Brawler, Scouts, and Psions |
| 21:29.07 | Bounty | and its called a Psion |
| 21:29.07 | Vandal | Brawlers, Scouts, and Psions |
| 21:29.15 | Bounty | oh my! |
| 21:29.28 | Vandal | Psi-something |
| 21:29.35 | Bounty | Psi Mage |
| 21:29.37 | Bounty | Psi Templar |
| 21:29.42 | Vandal | XD |
| 21:29.43 | Bounty | Psi Wizard |
| 21:29.52 | Bounty | Psi Guy |
| 21:29.54 | Bounty | there u go |
| 21:29.57 | Bounty | Psi Guy |
| 21:29.58 | Vandal | Psi Guy, I like it |
| 21:30.12 | Bounty | Bill Nye the Psi Guy |
| 21:30.15 | Vandal | Brawlers, Scouts, and Psi Guys |
| 21:30.22 | Vandal | hrrm doesn't really work in that context ;o |
| 21:30.26 | Bounty | >< |
| 21:30.39 | Vandal | Psion is workable |
| 21:30.43 | Vandal | Pisons |
| 21:30.45 | Vandal | Psions |
| 21:32.15 | Vandal | Brawlers, Scouts, and Psions |
| 21:32.21 | Vandal | I think I have a winner |
| 21:32.29 | Vandal | Bounty I should try your map |
| 21:32.45 | Bounty | yes you should |
| 21:32.48 | Bounty | everyone should |
| 21:32.49 | Bounty | >< |
| 21:32.50 | Vandal | I will mine it for hidden treasure :3 |
| 21:33.00 | Vandal | om nom nom I'm eating your ideas |
| 21:33.10 | Vandal | delicious, delicious, ideas |
| 21:33.58 | Bounty | that kinda hurts you in the process lol |
| 21:34.11 | Bounty | the more yo utake from me, the less original your map is |
| 21:34.11 | Bounty | >< |
| 21:34.15 | Vandal | XD |
| 21:34.33 | Vandal | Nah I can't really copy you, mine is still 1v1, I'm copying DotA more closely than you are |
| 21:35.26 | Vandal | downloading now |
| 21:35.50 | Vandal | hmm. I hosted my own game of it |
| 21:36.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty_ (442ccc3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.44.204.59) |
| 21:36.22 | Bounty_ | wierd, got DC'd from irc |
| 21:38.45 | JademusSreg | It happens. |
| 21:38.52 | Bounty_ | JademusSreg |
| 21:39.04 | Bounty_ | Watcha think of new graphics? |
| 21:39.36 | Bounty_ | http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8735/fogv.jpg |
| 21:47.38 | JademusSreg | Looks nice. |
| 21:47.53 | Bounty_ | no more draw distance option |
| 21:47.55 | JademusSreg | The bottom bar is much less busy, too. |
| 21:47.58 | Bounty_ | everyone has their own skybox now |
| 21:48.02 | Bounty_ | well |
| 21:48.06 | Bounty_ | thats bc i have widescreen |
| 21:48.08 | Bounty_ | lol |
| 21:48.16 | JademusSreg | Me too. I mean the texture. |
| 21:48.20 | Vandal | very nice Bounty |
| 21:48.21 | Bounty_ | ah |
| 21:48.21 | Bounty_ | yeah |
| 21:48.23 | Vandal | I tried to host your map |
| 21:48.41 | Vandal | 10 minutes later I have 5 guys in it |
| 21:48.50 | Bounty_ | really? |
| 21:48.52 | Bounty_ | wow |
| 21:48.53 | Bounty_ | lol |
| 21:48.56 | Bounty_ | let me guess |
| 21:48.59 | Bounty_ | everyone dropped |
| 21:49.20 | Vandal | no |
| 21:49.28 | Vandal | 4 peopled joined and we were just waiting |
| 21:49.36 | Bounty_ | oh |
| 21:49.39 | JademusSreg | Any blue replies to Malpheus's topic on bnet? |
| 21:49.43 | Vandal | I had to go though |
| 21:49.46 | Bounty_ | not yet i just bumped it |
| 21:49.47 | Vandal | my wife will be home any minute |
| 21:49.49 | Bounty_ | requesting a blue |
| 21:49.53 | Bounty_ | you know what pisses me off jade? |
| 21:50.01 | Bounty_ | a blue responded to the thread about the arcade today |
| 21:50.04 | JademusSreg | Lots of things. |
| 21:50.05 | JademusSreg | HAha |
| 21:50.06 | Bounty_ | the topic RIGHT NEXT to that |
| 21:50.10 | Bounty_ | got a response |
| 21:50.12 | Bounty_ | but we didnt |
| 21:50.14 | Bounty_ | lol |
| 21:50.18 | Bounty_ | like seriously |
| 21:50.24 | Bounty_ | i can feel my asshole start to rip |
| 21:50.28 | Bounty_ | with how much im getting fucked |
| 21:50.54 | Bounty_ | i cant even sit down when i browse the bnet forums nemore bc it starts to hurt |
| 21:55.41 | Bounty_ | i.... sense i've gone to far. |
| 21:56.32 | Vandal | XD |
| 21:57.38 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 21:58.13 | Bounty_ | I found out why i've never been on MapCraft today btw |
| 21:58.22 | Bounty_ | Because of that thread i made |
| 21:58.24 | Bounty_ | lol |
| 21:58.27 | Bounty_ | awhilea go |
| 21:58.28 | Bounty_ | ago* |
| 21:59.10 | Bounty_ | So i dont get on the show for making one troll thread |
| 21:59.16 | Bounty_ | But Rodrigo and Mephs were on |
| 21:59.24 | Bounty_ | Dont worry, ill wait for that to settle |
| 21:59.31 | Bounty_ | Figure that shit out |
| 22:00.38 | Ahli | uhm, are you sure that you did the uploading and dependency stuff in that order, bounty? |
| 22:01.09 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/3754645556 |
| 22:02.25 | Ahli | or are you missing the point 2.5 which would be "uploading the updated map"? |
| 22:04.29 | Alrik | bye |
| 22:06.54 | Ahli | bounty_ |
| 22:07.25 | Bounty_ | jademussreg was my witness |
| 22:07.28 | Bounty_ | we did it right |
| 22:07.50 | Bounty_ | lol its no coincidence that every mapper i know that has used/uses a custom mod has the issue |
| 22:10.26 | Ahli | If I have that problem, I thought I would have it because of corrupted wow models (humanmale). It already crashed after the model turned green for unknown reasons once and it has random animation errors. |
| 22:10.50 | Ahli | I failed to correct the beginning of the sentence ;S |
| 22:10.58 | Ahli | I'm not sure if I have that problem. |
| 22:11.51 | Ahli | my bigger problem is that some people have often problems with their banks not being signed anymore. |
| 22:37.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | how do you add multiple requirements to one unit |
| 22:37.32 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lets say i want to build one archon or 2 high templars |
| 22:38.01 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i can build 2 high templars and then merge them after that i cant build anymore hightemplars |
| 22:40.45 | Bounty_ | oh |
| 22:40.45 | Bounty_ | my |
| 22:40.47 | Bounty_ | fucking god |
| 22:40.51 | Bounty_ | JademusSreg |
| 22:40.52 | Bounty_ | u there? |
| 22:42.54 | Kueken1 | u found something? |
| 22:43.01 | Bounty_ | nvm fixed it |
| 22:43.02 | Bounty_ | lol |
| 22:45.22 | Bounty_ | wait nope |
| 22:45.22 | Bounty_ | fuck |
| 22:45.23 | Bounty_ | MODFHad |
| 22:45.25 | Bounty_ | MOTHER FUCK |
| 22:45.29 | Bounty_ | fog is ruining my models |
| 22:45.34 | Bounty_ | makes them have corruption |
| 22:47.04 | Bounty_ | is there a way to make terrain fog not affect a model |
| 22:51.32 | Bounty_ | hello? |
| 22:51.35 | Bounty_ | Xaragoth |
| 22:51.37 | Bounty_ | JademusSreg |
| 22:51.49 | Bounty_ | http://i43.tinypic.com/5lnqyr.jpg |
| 22:51.50 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | does any body know how to have 2 requirements on and ability |
| 22:51.56 | Bounty_ | thats without the fog |
| 22:51.58 | Bounty_ | looks fine |
| 22:51.59 | Bounty_ | but |
| 22:52.18 | Bounty_ | heres the fuckin problem |
| 22:52.28 | Bounty_ | http://i42.tinypic.com/23m5t83.jpg |
| 22:52.30 | Bounty_ | with fog |
| 22:52.33 | Bounty_ | what the |
| 22:52.34 | Bounty_ | FUCK |
| 22:52.39 | Bounty_ | how does that even happen |
| 22:53.47 | Bounty_ | anyone? |
| 22:55.51 | Bounty_ | HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 22:56.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | nvm i figured out my issue |
| 22:56.13 | Bounty_ | ok well look at mine |
| 22:56.15 | Bounty_ | and see if u can help |
| 22:56.16 | Bounty_ | lol |
| 22:57.25 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i dont know what to do bounty |
| 22:57.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im sorry |
| 22:57.34 | Bounty_ | sigh |
| 22:57.41 | Bounty_ | if i cant fix this |
| 22:57.42 | Bounty_ | fuck it im done |
| 22:57.43 | Bounty_ | lol |
| 22:57.49 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 22:57.52 | Bounty_ | bc that sthe most retarded shit ive ever fucking seen |
| 22:58.04 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | just wait till everyone else gets out of afk |
| 22:59.34 | Deaod | am i interpreting this correctly as rectangular fog? |
| 22:59.41 | Deaod | with two layers? |
| 22:59.56 | Bounty_ | its just regular environment fog |
| 23:00.07 | Bounty_ | and its only affecting thoes models |
| 23:00.14 | Deaod | well, its still rectangular |
| 23:00.34 | Deaod | i assume youre complaining about how bad it looks |
| 23:00.43 | Deaod | and i agree, it does |
| 23:00.45 | Bounty_ | http://i43.tinypic.com/5lnqyr.jpg |
| 23:00.49 | Deaod | but i cant help you fix it |
| 23:00.49 | Bounty_ | thats without environmental fog |
| 23:00.51 | Bounty_ | in game |
| 23:00.56 | Bounty_ | how does fog do that |
| 23:01.10 | Bounty_ | is tehre a way to make environmental fog not affect a model |
| 23:01.29 | Deaod | oh, so its about there being fog at all? |
| 23:01.31 | Deaod | hmmm |
| 23:01.38 | Bounty_ | yeah look at the picture i jst linked |
| 23:01.39 | Deaod | well, i dont have a clue either way |
| 23:01.39 | Bounty_ | thats without |
| 23:01.44 | Bounty_ | makes no sense |
| 23:01.48 | Bounty_ | where the fuck did those squares come from lol |
| 23:01.55 | Bounty_ | if it was corruption u would be able to see it without the fog |
| 23:04.59 | JademusSreg | Got a screenshot of "corruption? |
| 23:05.59 | Bounty_ | http://i43.tinypic.com/5lnqyr.jpg |
| 23:06.00 | Bounty_ | without fog |
| 23:06.08 | Bounty_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:06.08 | Bounty_ | with fog |
| 23:06.23 | JademusSreg | Ah, haha. |
| 23:06.41 | Bounty_ | not funny |
| 23:06.47 | Bounty_ | this is bullshit |
| 23:07.02 | JademusSreg | It's applying the fog to the plane. |
| 23:07.06 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
| 23:07.12 | Bounty_ | how do you fix it |
| 23:07.33 | Ahli | not using fog ;D |
| 23:07.47 | JademusSreg | Model edit, certainly. Removing the "glow" planes. |
| 23:07.55 | Bounty_ | ..... |
| 23:08.01 | Bounty_ | so basically im fucked |
| 23:08.02 | Bounty_ | w/e |
| 23:08.21 | JademusSreg | There may be another, model-asset editing oriented solution. |
| 23:08.28 | JademusSreg | But you'd have to ask a modeler. |
| 23:08.51 | Bounty_ | would it have anythign to do with shadow? |
| 23:10.27 | JademusSreg | I can't hazard a guess what specific property of the planes is causing it to be rendered like that. |
| 23:10.45 | JademusSreg | I don't have the requisite experience. |
| 23:12.14 | Bounty_ | :( |
| 23:14.11 | Bounty_ | there is no way to have it not interact with the fog? |
| 23:16.44 | JademusSreg | If there is, it would look pretty silly. |
| 23:16.57 | JademusSreg | Maybe use a different model. |
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| 23:23.00 | JademusSreg | Perhaps I should rename my map to Carpal Tunnel Cycles. |
| 23:23.02 | JademusSreg | bbl |
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