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| 00:49.49 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hey everyone is it possible to attach files in a pm on the site |
| 00:50.03 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 00:50.06 | ________________ | after you send the pm |
| 00:50.28 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | theres no option to attach thats all |
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| 00:54.33 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i was just curious with the attach to a pm option |
| 00:54.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | anyways |
| 00:54.58 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i have another question |
| 00:55.04 | Baked_Potato | Any idea how to track down an error "00:00:00.00 WARNING: Invalid attach method [Unavailable] in AttachQuery[Methods=Invalid LinkInvalid LinkInvalid LinkInvalid LinkInvalid LinkInvalid LinkInvalid LinkInvalid LinkInvalid LinkInvalid LinkInvalid"? |
| 00:55.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im moving all my models into a mod |
| 00:55.17 | Baked_Potato | No detailed info on where it occurs in debugger :| |
| 00:56.28 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i have the mod created and published to bnet i want to know how to make it a dependency do i just add local or is there something special when dealing with published mods thanks |
| 00:59.17 | JademusSreg | I recognize that error. |
| 00:59.36 | Baked_Potato | The "Link Invalid" part goes on for about 5x as long |
| 00:59.54 | JademusSreg | That is what is occurs when one copies attach queries from one actor to another; the editor has a number of fields that bug when that happens. |
| 01:00.49 | JademusSreg | Or more simply, you just plain can't copy attach query fields from the editor. You'd have to do it from the xml. |
| 01:01.04 | Baked_Potato | Anything in particular I should look for that would tell me where the problem is? |
| 01:01.09 | JademusSreg | Or reconstruct it manually. |
| 01:01.16 | JademusSreg | It's in an actor. |
| 01:01.45 | JademusSreg | And unless the error outputs the actor id, you'll have to search manually. |
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| 01:04.01 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | any ideas on my question |
| 01:04.30 | JademusSreg | Published. Then File -> Dependencies |
| 01:04.50 | JademusSreg | Add a dependency from the bnet tab. |
| 01:05.01 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 01:05.13 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | the map has to be published first right |
| 01:05.58 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i dont see a bnet tab in dependencies |
| 01:06.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | nvm its in add other |
| 01:06.37 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thanks jade |
| 01:06.37 | JademusSreg | I expect there is something similar. It has been months since I bothered to add a dependency. |
| 01:06.45 | JademusSreg | Since they cause stability issues. |
| 01:06.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | meh |
| 01:06.56 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i want to save space you know |
| 01:07.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | my models are huge |
| 01:07.08 | JademusSreg | By which I mean people will be randomly disconnected from the game at the start. |
| 01:07.22 | JademusSreg | So good luck. =D |
| 01:07.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i get that anyways |
| 01:07.42 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | :P |
| 01:07.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | bnet need to fix thier service |
| 01:08.19 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thats definetly an issue they need to fix |
| 01:08.34 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its also been around since release so |
| 01:09.41 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 01:09.47 | JademusSreg | Since beta. |
| 01:10.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | really i never played beta |
| 01:11.28 | JademusSreg | Good times. Modding before the editor was even released was full of excitement. |
| 01:16.10 | JademusSreg | As in other people were excited. Now people mostly whine about the stating of modding and mapping. |
| 01:16.12 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 01:18.35 | ________________ | ~whine |
| 01:18.35 | purl | it has been said that whine is saying "I want you to hold my hand while I install debian because I'm too lazy to read the docs!" |
| 01:18.56 | ________________ | ~debain |
| 01:18.56 | purl | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 01:18.58 | JademusSreg | Hahaha. |
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| 01:19.03 | ________________ | ;) |
| 01:19.22 | JademusSreg | Schooled by a bot. |
| 01:19.26 | ________________ | ikr? |
| 01:25.08 | Baked_Potato | Well, if nothing else this search has turned up a few old useless actors |
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| 01:51.00 | Xaragoth | I have to question Broken Alliance |
| 01:51.20 | Xaragoth | On how the fuck they can give obviously ugly, shitty Terrain a 4/5 |
| 01:51.21 | Xaragoth | ~ |
| 01:51.32 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 01:51.44 | JademusSreg | What is Broken Alliance? |
| 01:52.06 | Xaragoth | the strange "map reviewers" |
| 01:52.18 | Xaragoth | just watched the video because Bounty was so proud they gave him a high score |
| 01:52.23 | Xaragoth | and I was like "Are you retarded?" |
| 01:52.24 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 01:52.29 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 01:52.57 | Xaragoth | I wonder what Malu would've gotten with this FPS project if he didn't get sidetracked by his girlfriends boobs and studies |
| 01:53.00 | Xaragoth | probably |
| 01:53.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i have a question why is monobattle more popular than most maps |
| 01:53.04 | Xaragoth | 6/5 |
| 01:53.05 | Xaragoth | : |
| 01:53.13 | Xaragoth | no idea |
| 01:53.14 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it takes like a day to make |
| 01:53.20 | JademusSreg | If ever there is a reason for getting sidetracked, that is it. |
| 01:53.23 | Xaragoth | probably |
| 01:53.24 | Xaragoth | simple |
| 01:53.25 | Xaragoth | fast loading |
| 01:53.29 | Xaragoth | idiot friendly |
| 01:53.43 | Xaragoth | always asume your playerbase is fucking stupid |
| 01:53.46 | Xaragoth | and you can't fail |
| 01:53.59 | Xaragoth | +s |
| 01:54.33 | Xaragoth | lol |
| 01:54.42 | Xaragoth | watching dApollos Zerg Bronze League Tutorial |
| 01:55.02 | Xaragoth | and I am like "And you expect what person to understand your fucking fast pro gameplay?" |
| 01:55.13 | Xaragoth | I'm thinking of watching with with half speed |
| 01:55.14 | Xaragoth | xD |
| 01:55.18 | Xaragoth | *this |
| 01:55.32 | JademusSreg | Uh, Bronze League needs a tutorial? |
| 01:55.41 | Xaragoth | it's for people to rank up |
| 01:55.46 | Xaragoth | and how to play safe and stuff |
| 01:55.49 | Xaragoth | it's really good |
| 01:55.58 | Xaragoth | but I doubt your average bronze leaguer can keep up with his play |
| 01:56.14 | JademusSreg | "HOw To Stay In The Lowest League Indefinitely: A Brief Moving Illustrated Primer On The Finer Points Of Failure" |
| 01:56.27 | Xaragoth | lol |
| 01:57.27 | Xaragoth | but I like how he plays against toss |
| 01:57.29 | Xaragoth | and has like 4 bases |
| 01:57.32 | Xaragoth | and the toss has 2 |
| 01:57.38 | Xaragoth | nothing is coming out of the toss base |
| 01:57.46 | Xaragoth | I'm waiting for him to get hit by MASS DTs ^^ |
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| 02:06.16 | Mexa_ | Huzzzaah, a new humbleindiebundle =D |
| 02:06.37 | Mexa_ | http://www.humblebundle.com/ |
| 02:06.42 | Mexa_ | Also, cave story <3 |
| 02:45.53 | Baked_Potato | Arrrrgggh worst debug output ever |
| 02:46.51 | Baked_Potato | It's like looking for a needle in a stack of used medical sharps |
| 02:49.10 | JademusSreg | Simplest solution is to look in the XML. Or rather, make a new actor, copy and paste any other attach query to the new actor's field to replicate the bug. |
| 02:49.39 | JademusSreg | Go in the XML, find the entry for the new actor by searching for its id, look at the error in XML form, then search for -that-. |
| 02:49.46 | JademusSreg | Ctrl F search, that is. |
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| 03:00.50 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hy guys i have a question |
| 03:01.06 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | how do i make it so you can only have 2 archons alowed for a player |
| 03:01.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | which mean highs can morph if there is two already |
| 03:01.27 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | cant* |
| 03:02.26 | JademusSreg | Requirements |
| 03:02.46 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:02.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | sorry im new with the requirements |
| 03:04.31 | JademusSreg | I don't have a short answer. |
| 03:04.40 | JademusSreg | Think of Requirements like GUI trigger conditions. |
| 03:04.45 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 03:05.07 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so i just set up a requirement to lets say count the number of units |
| 03:05.16 | JademusSreg | And the great thing about working in data is there is never a shortage of examples. |
| 03:05.26 | JademusSreg | For instance, did you know the Mothership has a limit of 1? |
| 03:05.34 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya |
| 03:05.36 | JademusSreg | That sounds like a good example. |
| 03:05.42 | JademusSreg | So go look at its Requirement. |
| 03:05.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | how would i implement that as an ability |
| 03:05.55 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | for the merge |
| 03:06.23 | JademusSreg | Oh my goodness. Are you aware of the Requirements in the Command array in the Ability data? |
| 03:06.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya |
| 03:06.35 | JademusSreg | Soooo |
| 03:06.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its just confusing |
| 03:06.48 | JademusSreg | Don't you think you'd use your requirement there? |
| 03:06.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | maybe |
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| 03:07.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | um im looking at the mothership requirement |
| 03:07.19 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | this is even more confusuing |
| 03:07.23 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 03:07.35 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 03:07.43 | JademusSreg | Or rather, not for me, but I imagine it is for you. |
| 03:07.45 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its like count mothership queed or better and its number is 0 |
| 03:07.52 | JademusSreg | And I don't have time or patience to provide tutorials. |
| 03:08.07 | JademusSreg | But if you have specific questions, I will be happy to answer them, when I am not afk. |
| 03:08.10 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im sorry for being a noob |
| 03:08.14 | JademusSreg | Which I am now. brb |
| 03:08.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 03:09.10 | Xaragoth | Urrrrgh... tired. |
| 03:09.16 | Xaragoth | Dropbox, y u no get done faster. |
| 03:09.37 | Xaragoth | Sending AVI via Dropbox from Finland to Germany = Bad Idea. |
| 03:10.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 03:13.05 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 03:13.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | jade so you back |
| 03:13.23 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 03:13.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok im gonna test this and see if it works |
| 03:13.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i changed it to constant 1 |
| 03:14.11 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | it was previously 0 |
| 03:14.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | logical assumption says increase by one :) |
| 03:14.42 | JademusSreg | But what was the full expression? |
| 03:14.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 03:15.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | 1 sec |
| 03:15.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | and |
| 03:15.21 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | equakls |
| 03:15.33 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | count unit archon queued or better |
| 03:15.36 | JademusSreg | If it will allow you, copy the field as text. |
| 03:15.42 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 03:15.50 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | FieldOnly Have 2 Arcones |
| 03:15.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | : Requirement -(CountUnit(Archon,QueuedOrBetter) == {No Mothership}1 && ()|(None)) |
| 03:17.19 | JademusSreg | Looks like they left an empty value in there. Anyway, that will compare the count to a bool? How odd. |
| 03:17.34 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ths s original |
| 03:17.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | FieldMothership Requirements |
| 03:17.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | : Requirement -(CountUnit(FleetBeacon,CompleteOnly)[TechTreeCheat] && CountUnit(Mothership,QueuedOrBetter) == {No Mothership}0 && CountUnit(Artanis,QueuedOrBetter) == {No Artanis}0|(None)) |
| 03:17.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thats orig |
| 03:18.24 | JademusSreg | You want (CountUnit(Archon,QueuedOrBetter) == 0) if this is a count to -enable- the ability if there are no Archons. |
| 03:19.04 | JademusSreg | Or some such. |
| 03:19.05 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 03:19.31 | JademusSreg | I don't have the editor open, so I can't check. |
| 03:19.54 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 03:19.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ill try that |
| 03:20.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | FieldOnly Have 2 Arcones |
| 03:20.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | : Requirement -(CountUnit(Archon,QueuedOrBetter) == 1|(None)) |
| 03:20.43 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hows that |
| 03:21.20 | JademusSreg | That would require you to have at one Archon to enable the ability. |
| 03:21.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hmm could i make it 0 or 1 |
| 03:21.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i want the max to be 2 |
| 03:22.02 | JademusSreg | Change the comparison operator. |
| 03:22.11 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its equals |
| 03:22.16 | JademusSreg | For instance, >= 1 or > 2 |
| 03:22.17 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so could i make it max |
| 03:22.27 | JademusSreg | Sorry, <= 1 or < 2 |
| 03:22.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so less than 2 |
| 03:22.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | or equal to 2 |
| 03:23.07 | JademusSreg | No. |
| 03:23.15 | JademusSreg | Less than 2 |
| 03:23.21 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | FieldOnly Have 2 Arcones |
| 03:23.21 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | : Requirement -(CountUnit(Archon,QueuedOrBetter) <= 2|(None)) |
| 03:23.28 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | why less than 2 |
| 03:23.36 | JademusSreg | Not LEss Than Or Equal To, only Less Than 2 |
| 03:23.38 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | wouldnt it only produce just 1 |
| 03:23.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | or does 0 count as 1 |
| 03:24.08 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 03:24.18 | JademusSreg | This is to enable the ability, it's a simple logical expression. |
| 03:24.27 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 03:24.31 | JademusSreg | You want the ability to be disabled if there is 2 Archons. |
| 03:24.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i see now |
| 03:24.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i get it |
| 03:24.43 | JademusSreg | So it should be enabled if there are less than 2 archons. |
| 03:24.47 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | flew right over my head |
| 03:25.40 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | now under the ability i put the requirement in both selected units and target |
| 03:25.49 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | commands |
| 03:32.28 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im gonna do a test |
| 03:36.36 | Mexa_ | :O Did you guys know there is an archive browser in the editor? |
| 03:36.48 | Mexa_ | It even shows your battle net cache |
| 03:36.48 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ya |
| 03:37.07 | Mexa_ | Darpn, never seen it before ever |
| 03:37.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i dont use it cause it takes forevor for me to load it :P |
| 03:37.54 | Mexa_ | mm |
| 03:48.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok it works but in game it says this |
| 03:49.07 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | requires archon 1 |
| 03:49.19 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | archon and 1 are line broken |
| 03:49.41 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | can i chnage that |
| 03:51.51 | JademusSreg | Dunno what you did in the first place. And I'm not aware for how to change the tooltip text for a requirement, but if I had to guess, I would wager the Mothership requirement will demonstrate that too. |
| 03:52.32 | JademusSreg | For instance, in game, the mothership requirement doesn't say "Requires Mothership 0" but "Requires No Mothership". |
| 03:53.07 | JademusSreg | Perhaps it accomplishes this implicitly, by calling the Requirement / Node in the original expression. |
| 03:57.55 | ________________ | How could I detect if an area is buildable before having a unit actually try to build there. |
| 03:58.11 | ________________ | nvm got it |
| 03:58.43 | ________________ | nvm its a lame workaround, there has to be a more direct way |
| 03:58.46 | ________________ | any ideas? |
| 03:58.52 | JademusSreg | Place Precursor |
| 03:58.59 | ________________ | ?? |
| 03:59.10 | JademusSreg | See Raven - Build Autoturret |
| 03:59.22 | JademusSreg | The Effect - Target version. |
| 03:59.57 | Baked_Potato | Encyclopedia Jademus |
| 04:01.24 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok what ill do is there is a tooltip placement in the constant ill change that |
| 04:02.17 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its under the equals script part |
| 04:06.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | how do i change the psi storm colour |
| 04:06.50 | JademusSreg | Actor Event - Set Tint |
| 04:07.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im trying that under the model but its not working |
| 04:07.32 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | the artanis psi storm model actor |
| 04:07.44 | JademusSreg | Paste what you're doing. |
| 04:08.05 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i will just gotta find it |
| 04:08.28 | ________________ | Hrm, so I don't see it... What's the diff btwn the 'Make precursor' effect and just using a place unit |
| 04:08.49 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | um im changing wron model ill fix and see if that works |
| 04:09.04 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 04:09.17 | JademusSreg | Underscore, the difference is that Make Precursor is MAGIC. |
| 04:09.24 | ________________ | lol |
| 04:09.51 | ________________ | blah, im just trying to detect if an area is buildable before I order it to build @ that spot via triggers |
| 04:10.15 | ________________ | i was thinking of creating, detecting, then removing a unit before issuing the order |
| 04:10.17 | ________________ | but thats obv lame |
| 04:13.26 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok its working lol |
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| 04:20.41 | Bounty | >< |
| 04:20.51 | ________________ | ? |
| 04:20.56 | Bounty | ?? |
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| 04:24.19 | JademusSreg | ?>?<? |
| 04:27.00 | Mexa_ | Lol, interesting, I didn't even know starjewelred had a pow2 movement formula when filling gaps and the board |
| 04:27.13 | Mexa_ | One would almost think a linear movement would have been enough. |
| 04:35.53 | Mexa_ | hey bounty? |
| 04:36.00 | Bounty | sup |
| 04:36.19 | Mexa_ | was going to say the same:p |
| 04:36.28 | Bounty | well then |
| 04:36.32 | Bounty | n2m u? >< |
| 04:36.42 | Mexa_ | ;) |
| 04:36.48 | Mexa_ | n2m, tired, |
| 04:36.56 | Mexa_ | experimenting with dialogs |
| 04:37.10 | Bounty | did my first bank today |
| 04:37.14 | Bounty | for TriFaction |
| 04:37.41 | Mexa_ | Are you going to find any new EU publisher some time? |
| 04:37.50 | Bounty | we'll see |
| 04:38.13 | Bounty | btw, how do you add a bank signature? what does it do and is it worth doing? |
| 04:39.10 | Mexa_ | The bank signature is a hash in combination of a few things - I recall the other bank data, the player handle, map hash and something else, or so |
| 04:39.34 | Mexa_ | It's pretty much an attempt to provide security for clientsided banks |
| 04:39.47 | Bounty | is it worth doing? |
| 04:40.18 | Mexa_ | Is it worth it? I'm not sure, the signature hash algoritm is already cracked (though known by few, but there's already tools to break it) |
| 04:40.40 | Bounty | i doubt ppl would go through the trouble to hack my bank though lol |
| 04:40.47 | Mexa_ | I know |
| 04:40.47 | Bounty | its just a rank that grants titles |
| 04:40.50 | Bounty | nothing huge |
| 04:41.24 | Mexa_ | Point being, if people aren't going to go enough trouble to hack your bank, then you're probably not going to need the signature either |
| 04:41.56 | Bounty | i guess ill jsut wait n see |
| 04:42.00 | Bounty | n add signature later if needed? |
| 04:42.15 | Mexa_ | I've seen a couple of newbies which goes to starcraft hacking scenes, only to leech up for a bank hack. |
| 04:42.23 | Mexa_ | Yeah, that's easily done |
| 04:42.48 | Mexa_ | All in all, when you add the signature, the next time you load the bank, you check if the signature is valid |
| 04:43.27 | Mexa_ | I don't remember if it's still an issue, but bank signatures hand tended to fail signature checking a dozens of times before |
| 04:43.43 | Mexa_ | like, 9 out of 10 times, it would say the bank was invalid. |
| 04:43.50 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:43.51 | Bounty | ouch |
| 04:44.01 | ________________ | It's not that bad anymore. |
| 04:44.03 | ________________ | It's better. |
| 04:44.07 | Mexa_ | alright |
| 04:44.16 | Bounty | and i can just add it later if needed? no problem? |
| 04:44.27 | Mexa_ | I'd say so, yeah |
| 04:45.03 | Bounty | kk |
| 04:45.11 | Bounty | cant wait to see what issues come up |
| 04:45.13 | Bounty | with my ranking system |
| 04:45.14 | Mexa_ | Imo, though, clientsided banks are only useful for things like preferences and similar.. anything clientsided is doomed to be untrusted. |
| 04:45.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:45.24 | ________________ | omg this is killin me... Freaking, AI Advanced commands will only work for preplaced units |
| 04:45.29 | ________________ | there has to be a way to change that |
| 04:45.33 | Bounty | well yeah thats why i made it not affect gameplay |
| 04:45.38 | Bounty | it just grants you titles |
| 04:45.42 | Bounty | as you gain ranks |
| 04:45.51 | Mexa_ | Alrighty |
| 04:46.00 | Bounty | just tryna get ppl to play more lol |
| 04:46.10 | Bounty | 25 ranks, and 3 factions |
| 04:46.10 | Mexa_ | Then those wannabe professionals can have their way to boast about their fake rankings later:P |
| 04:46.12 | Bounty | so thats 75 ranks |
| 04:46.30 | Bounty | well the way it works is |
| 04:46.32 | Bounty | when you see an enemy |
| 04:46.35 | Bounty | you dont see their name |
| 04:46.37 | Bounty | you see their title |
| 04:47.18 | Mexa_ | The title as in the rank title, yes? |
| 04:47.24 | Bounty | yeah |
| 04:47.31 | Bounty | it used to show their class |
| 04:47.34 | Bounty | but i found that meh |
| 04:47.39 | Mexa_ | Oh well, they can still chitchat about it |
| 04:47.39 | Bounty | i think its cooler to see the title |
| 04:47.47 | Bounty | exactly |
| 04:47.49 | Bounty | say ur playing |
| 04:47.53 | Bounty | and someone kills u wit hthe rank of like |
| 04:48.02 | Bounty | Imperial Ass Kicker |
| 04:48.03 | Bounty | or something |
| 04:48.07 | Bounty | ur like oh shit what rank is that!? |
| 04:48.09 | Bounty | =P |
| 04:48.19 | Mexa_ | ah:P |
| 04:48.27 | Bounty | its kinda lame atm though |
| 04:48.30 | Bounty | everyone is rank 0 >< |
| 04:48.38 | Bounty | so u have a bunch of Peons and Savants running around |
| 04:49.04 | Mexa_ | ^¨ |
| 04:49.10 | Mexa_ | Brb tea |
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| 05:10.26 | Mexa_ | lol |
| 05:10.55 | Mexa_ | Storing values in a specific order in banks is shat upon when saving:/ |
| 05:11.12 | Mexa_ | I wanted my keys to be alphabetical, but fine... |
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| 15:47.02 | Darkling_ | hi |
| 15:49.05 | Darkling_ | english muffin + cinnamon butter = yum :) |
| 15:50.05 | Darkling_ | your all sleeepy.... |
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| 15:52.23 | Darkling_ | I have been soo bored lately, its insane. |
| 15:53.08 | Darkling_ | atleast ive got music |
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| 16:00.34 | Ashamed | erg i have been busy |
| 16:00.37 | A1win | I haven't been bored in years, but now I'm cursed with not being able to maintain interest on one thing for long enough to get it finished |
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| 16:01.24 | A1win | I literally can't remember when was the last time I thought "damn I've got nothing to do" |
| 16:03.01 | A1win | if I get bored of one thing, it's because I've already gained interest of another |
| 16:04.10 | Darkling_ | ^ |
| 16:04.19 | Darkling_ | thats exactly whats going on with me |
| 16:04.29 | Darkling_ | I want something I cant get |
| 16:05.03 | A1win | why are you complaining of boredom then o: |
| 16:06.09 | Darkling_ | Because I have no interest in anything I have right now |
| 16:06.27 | A1win | so it isn't exactly that then :x |
| 16:06.59 | Darkling_ | well its both, Im bored because I dont have anything i want to do, BECAUSE OF my other interest |
| 16:07.52 | Darkling_ | Dam it terran dosent have very many melee units |
| 16:08.27 | Darkling_ | actually |
| 16:08.32 | Darkling_ | most of the armies dont |
| 16:09.24 | A1win | damn java, I spent hours during three days to get a scroll bar working like I wanted it to :P |
| 16:09.36 | Darkling_ | Wow. |
| 16:10.15 | A1win | the swing library specifically |
| 16:10.38 | Darkling_ | I havnt worked with java. |
| 16:10.49 | Darkling_ | just XML and C+ |
| 16:11.29 | A1win | we used it when studying programming basics, so I got a hang of it more than of other languages... haven't bothered learning much on my own |
| 16:12.28 | Darkling_ | For some reason, I feel like Hangar should be spelled Hanger. |
| 16:14.26 | A1win | hanger is a person who hangs things |
| 16:15.43 | Darkling_ | So its just changed to hangar so it dosent conflict? |
| 16:16.08 | Darkling_ | Whats stronger a zergling without ups or a brood? |
| 16:16.14 | A1win | I don't know :p |
| 16:16.24 | A1win | why would they call it a "hanger" to begin with? |
| 16:16.41 | Darkling_ | I could ask the same for "hangar" |
| 16:17.03 | Darkling_ | I just feel like hangar looks strange |
| 16:17.18 | A1win | The word hangar comes from Middle French hanghart (.enclosure near a house.), of Germanic origin, from Frankish *haimgard (.fence around a group of houses.), from *haim (.home, village, hamlet.) + *gard (.yard.)." |
| 16:17.45 | A1win | it's got nothing to do with hanging |
| 16:18.12 | Darkling_ | none of those are like a hangar though :P |
| 16:18.18 | Darkling_ | except |
| 16:18.24 | Darkling_ | maybe the french |
| 16:18.30 | Darkling_ | hanghart |
| 16:18.32 | Xaragoth | It's where the word comes from |
| 16:18.33 | Xaragoth | ~ |
| 16:21.27 | A1win | there's not much logic to how languages are formed |
| 16:22.12 | Xaragoth | "Because it sounds cool" |
| 16:22.15 | Xaragoth | Is the basic logik. |
| 16:22.17 | Xaragoth | *logic |
| 16:23.38 | A1win | mmh saying there's no logic to something actually means that there's so much logic to it that it's incomprehensible by trying to think it logically :P |
| 16:24.12 | Darkling_ | No. |
| 16:24.20 | Ashamed | fucken French |
| 16:24.24 | Darkling_ | :) |
| 16:26.37 | Darkling_ | I love pandora |
| 16:26.43 | Darkling_ | its so awesome |
| 16:28.01 | Darkling_ | uhm stupid question buut... |
| 16:28.11 | Darkling_ | how do I change the cost of an upgrade? |
| 16:29.03 | A1win | in the research ability |
| 16:29.28 | Darkling_ | ooooh |
| 16:29.30 | Darkling_ | :) |
| 16:33.32 | Mexa_ | <inserts something about an arrow to the knee> |
| 16:37.36 | Darkling_ | I used to be a chatter box like you, then I took a key to the knee. |
| 16:38.30 | Mexa_ | ohnoes |
| 16:40.18 | Darkling_ | is kill resource the value that effects how much is rewarded for the kill? so I kill a marine and it gives me 1 mineral? |
| 16:40.47 | Ashamed | AHHH |
| 16:40.53 | Ashamed | makes sense dosn't it darkling? |
| 16:41.08 | Darkling_ | no it dosent. |
| 16:41.11 | Darkling_ | not one bit |
| 16:41.48 | Ashamed | if you say so... |
| 16:41.54 | Darkling_ | I do say so! |
| 16:42.19 | Ashamed | i am getting sooo pised at microsoft and this 2003 office! |
| 16:43.01 | Darkling_ | awwww |
| 16:43.05 | Darkling_ | poor ashamed |
| 16:43.19 | Darkling_ | getting all upset over microsoft ): |
| 16:44.11 | Darkling_ | ashamed |
| 16:44.14 | Mexa_ | So, I have this idea now just for the lols, porting a 2d collab game of mine, to starcaft 2 |
| 16:44.17 | Mexa_ | Thoughts? |
| 16:44.19 | Darkling_ | which is stronger a ling or a brood? |
| 16:44.20 | Mexa_ | ;) |
| 16:44.39 | Darkling_ | sounds.. |
| 16:44.44 | Darkling_ | interesting |
| 16:44.53 | Darkling_ | depends on what your 2d game is about |
| 16:45.20 | Mexa_ | http://www.indiedb.com/games/the-return-of-dr-mcslime probably all too primitive:P |
| 16:45.46 | Darkling_ | so its a platformer? |
| 16:46.04 | Mexa_ | But since I have nothing else to do, and since my other mate is porting it to NES (which is more interesting actually). |
| 16:46.12 | Mexa_ | Yeah |
| 16:46.21 | Darkling_ | its worth a shot |
| 16:46.28 | Darkling_ | you could probably spice it up with sc2 :) |
| 16:46.35 | Mexa_ | haha, I suppose |
| 16:46.54 | Mexa_ | Though my main point of interest right now is to actually have it done |
| 16:47.11 | Mexa_ | Or rather, because I think I can |
| 16:47.37 | Mexa_ | It would obviously not be multiplayer, and obviously not be played on battle.net:P |
| 16:47.50 | Darkling_ | LOL? |
| 16:48.02 | Mexa_ | ._? |
| 16:48.02 | Darkling_ | why not on bnet? |
| 16:48.37 | Mexa_ | Because a platformer which relies too much on timing is killed due to battle.net latency |
| 16:48.53 | Darkling_ | oic |
| 16:49.14 | Mexa_ | Sure, it would be up to the player, but I wouldn't recommend it |
| 16:51.22 | Darkling_ | I hate how you cant have two tabs up in the editor |
| 16:51.29 | Darkling_ | like I cant have two weapon tabs |
| 16:51.30 | Mexa_ | Oh yeah |
| 16:51.41 | Mexa_ | And that you can't have 2 triggers open at the same time |
| 16:51.47 | Darkling_ | yeah |
| 16:51.55 | Mexa_ | Then what's the point with having tabs in the first place <.<' |
| 16:52.39 | Darkling_ | I would like to be able to compare stuff easier |
| 16:54.13 | Darkling_ | damit the zergling is overall better than the broodling |
| 16:56.07 | Darkling_ | so what do you guys think? should the zergling be on the damage side, or the armor side? |
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| 16:56.20 | Darkling_ | the broodling would be placed on the left over |
| 16:57.42 | Darkling_ | I cant wait... |
| 16:57.56 | Darkling_ | the next series of starcraft, just imagine the graphics |
| 16:58.13 | Darkling_ | it would probably be filled with the high res cinimatic units :) |
| 17:02.21 | Mexa_ | hm |
| 17:04.19 | Darkling_ | IM SO CONFUSELED |
| 17:06.11 | Darkling_ | i guess |
| 17:06.22 | Darkling_ | since the zergling is bigger, ill make it the armor |
| 17:07.33 | Darkling_ | Shower is needed bbl. |
| 17:21.11 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 17:21.18 | Mexa_ | yay! |
| 17:21.36 | Vandal | anyone here know FuzzYD ? |
| 17:21.59 | JademusSreg | I'm not familiar with his work. |
| 17:22.04 | Vandal | You know the name, though |
| 17:22.10 | Vandal | I guess he works on AoS 2 |
| 17:22.18 | Vandal | I heard Riot employees are workign on AoS 2 :O |
| 17:23.14 | Mexa_ | FuzzYD, a Riot employee? |
| 17:23.49 | Vandal | I don't know |
| 17:23.50 | JademusSreg | Hopefully AoS 2 is targeted to a different demographic, or they'll be cannibalizing their customer base. |
| 17:23.56 | Vandal | Well |
| 17:24.01 | Vandal | I think they are working on it as a side project |
| 17:24.05 | Vandal | like something at home |
| 17:24.06 | Vandal | for SC2 |
| 17:24.17 | Vandal | I don't know though |
| 17:24.20 | Vandal | None of them have approached me |
| 17:25.58 | Mexa_ | Also, what's AoS2? |
| 17:36.55 | Ashamed | woot fucking job just bought a huge box of fruit by the foot |
| 17:36.59 | Ashamed | been years since i have had one |
| 17:36.59 | Ashamed | lol |
| 17:37.53 | Darkling_ | sounds naaasty |
| 17:38.00 | Darkling_ | :P |
| 17:38.15 | Ashamed | what you never had fruit by the foot? |
| 17:38.21 | Ashamed | you are EU i am guessing |
| 17:38.27 | Darkling_ | no |
| 17:38.38 | Ashamed | canadian? |
| 17:38.39 | Darkling_ | you talkin about that snack? |
| 17:38.49 | Ashamed | yeaht he one that is a giant fruit gummy |
| 17:38.54 | Ashamed | its like 7 feet long or some shit |
| 17:38.58 | Darkling_ | yah |
| 17:39.00 | Darkling_ | Ive had one |
| 17:39.13 | Ashamed | -.- well they aint naaaasty |
| 17:39.18 | Darkling_ | I know |
| 17:39.25 | Darkling_ | I said, its SOUNDS naaasty |
| 17:39.26 | Darkling_ | :) |
| 17:40.11 | Darkling_ | man I need to get some food |
| 17:40.23 | Darkling_ | Ive been eating english muffins |
| 17:40.30 | Darkling_ | and icecream |
| 17:40.51 | Darkling_ | Im gonna get some pizza, some burriteos |
| 17:40.58 | Darkling_ | some um... |
| 17:41.02 | Darkling_ | GOLDFISH :) |
| 17:42.07 | Darkling_ | In soviet russia, road fork you! |
| 17:42.47 | Ashamed | darkling you fat? |
| 17:42.54 | Darkling_ | no |
| 17:43.01 | Ashamed | just wondering :) |
| 17:43.03 | Darkling_ | Im probably the skiniest person i know |
| 17:43.14 | Darkling_ | I eat 6 meals a day though |
| 17:43.20 | Darkling_ | I guess im just one of those people :) |
| 17:44.01 | Darkling_ | I hope fatness dosent kick in when I age a bit more |
| 17:44.10 | Darkling_ | Im gonna have to change a lot |
| 17:44.19 | Ashamed | its hitting me darkling |
| 17:44.29 | Ashamed | :( i need to work out |
| 17:44.40 | Darkling_ | ): |
| 17:44.50 | Ashamed | i am prob about 20 pounds over what iw ould like to be |
| 17:44.50 | Darkling_ | I work out and do karate |
| 17:44.53 | Ashamed | so it aint like i am a fucking cow |
| 17:45.01 | Ashamed | i dont have time |
| 17:45.07 | Darkling_ | I see |
| 17:45.10 | Ashamed | I am like well i rather not do that |
| 17:45.11 | Ashamed | lol |
| 17:45.12 | Darkling_ | How old are you? |
| 17:45.14 | Ashamed | and just drive a car! |
| 17:45.17 | Ashamed | 22 |
| 17:45.22 | Darkling_ | I see |
| 17:45.44 | Ashamed | work / kid / work more / and then some more work >< |
| 17:45.47 | Ashamed | thats my schedule |
| 17:46.06 | Darkling_ | Yeah, what kind of job do you have? |
| 17:47.45 | Ashamed | IT |
| 17:47.48 | Ashamed | so i just sit on my ass all day |
| 17:47.50 | Ashamed | its bad |
| 17:48.26 | Ashamed | Network Engineer for a company called plum choice |
| 17:48.37 | Mexa_ | Hey, do anyone recall if there was any limit on dialogs and dialog items? |
| 17:49.43 | Ashamed | you mean on a spacific dialog ? |
| 17:49.50 | Ashamed | like how many items you can use on a dialog |
| 17:50.07 | Ashamed | If that is the case there is a limit... But i do not know what it is |
| 17:50.33 | Darkling_ | I work in programming, for First solar |
| 17:51.54 | Darkling_ | gtg |
| 17:52.01 | Darkling_ | Im gonna go shopping for food :) |
| 17:52.07 | Ashamed | f00d sux |
| 17:52.14 | Darkling_ | food is... |
| 17:52.24 | Darkling_ | unparallelededed |
| 17:53.50 | Mexa_ | Ashamed, yeah I mean - How many dialogs can one create, and how many items can one create, |
| 17:54.11 | Mexa_ | I'm probably just the most interested in dialog items only |
| 17:57.18 | JademusSreg | I'm guessing int limit. |
| 17:58.17 | Mexa_ | I've heard 256 before, but I'm unsure |
| 17:58.27 | Mexa_ | Guess there's not many ways to find out;) |
| 17:59.29 | JademusSreg | Sure there is. |
| 17:59.42 | Ashamed | seems a bit small 256 :( |
| 17:59.48 | Mexa_ | I mean, testing seems like enough |
| 17:59.49 | JademusSreg | But the best way would be to go about creating them. |
| 17:59.53 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 17:59.58 | Mexa_ | ;P |
| 18:00.09 | Ashamed | I have hit a limit of Dialog Items inside of a dialog.. So i had to create a new dialog |
| 18:00.12 | JademusSreg | Just create a bunch in a loop and see where it maxes out. |
| 18:00.14 | Ashamed | but thats the only limit i have come accross |
| 18:00.34 | Mexa_ | Jademus, for that, anyways:P http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2757798/Screenshot2011-12-14%2018_59_02.jpg |
| 18:00.58 | Mexa_ | Just doing all this, because it seems more fun testing the limits of the UI, rather than making my other map project |
| 18:01.07 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:01.20 | Ashamed | -.- Mexa just create a loop that recycles the ground or some shit |
| 18:01.28 | Ashamed | and the top -.- |
| 18:01.36 | Mexa_ | meh:P |
| 18:01.50 | Mexa_ | They're defined as tiles |
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| 18:02.05 | Mexa_ | It doesn't have to be walls on those places |
| 18:02.41 | Mexa_ | Also I hate it, I was having a neat way of creating levels using banks |
| 18:02.54 | Ashamed | what did blizzard do -.- |
| 18:03.02 | Mexa_ | But no, saving the levels from the editor just scrambles the entire structure of the banks ,_, |
| 18:03.18 | Ashamed | :{ |
| 18:03.40 | Mexa_ | It doesn't matter for reading the map, but it matters from a readability concern |
| 18:04.01 | Mexa_ | it better not scramble it if I do everything manually from bank scratch xml. |
| 18:04.14 | Ashamed | it will take forever though |
| 18:04.25 | Mexa_ | Possibly |
| 18:04.42 | Mexa_ | Our original levelreader wasn't that revolutionary either:P |
| 18:04.48 | JademusSreg | How do you manage collision? |
| 18:04.59 | Ashamed | trigger based i bet |
| 18:05.14 | JademusSreg | Well, it's all dialogs, yes? |
| 18:05.18 | Mexa_ | it is |
| 18:05.19 | JademusSreg | So it would need to be. |
| 18:05.22 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:05.31 | Mexa_ | or items |
| 18:05.34 | Mexa_ | *dialog items |
| 18:05.48 | JademusSreg | Yes, of course. I thought that was implied. |
| 18:05.53 | Mexa_ | Each tile has a size, which the player can collide with |
| 18:06.19 | Mexa_ | It's enough to check just the position of the player, and check all objects within the grid right around it |
| 18:06.41 | JademusSreg | How do you go about checking the grid? |
| 18:06.47 | JademusSreg | Array? |
| 18:06.50 | Mexa_ | yes |
| 18:07.01 | Mexa_ | the level is stored as a grid |
| 18:07.05 | JademusSreg | That makes me want to curl up and die inside. |
| 18:07.13 | Mexa_ | Really:P? |
| 18:07.18 | Ashamed | if only.... |
| 18:07.21 | JademusSreg | Yeah. Haha |
| 18:07.23 | Mexa_ | Tbh, it's all about memory usage vs efficiency |
| 18:07.36 | Mexa_ | having a grid gives O(1) comparisons |
| 18:07.54 | Mexa_ | while an array which I would have to search through would take longer time. |
| 18:08.28 | JademusSreg | No doubt. |
| 18:08.33 | Mexa_ | Jademus, like in our nibbles game, we preferenced performance over memory usage |
| 18:08.44 | Mexa_ | it also uses a gridlike system |
| 18:09.20 | Mexa_ | And considering galaxy only have the maxlimit of 2MB anyways:P |
| 18:09.50 | JademusSreg | I mean, really, any 2D level could be seen as 2D arrays of data. It's the being forced to use blocky-everything without any sort of granularity that gets my thanatos boiling. |
| 18:10.11 | Mexa_ | Oh, so you're concerned that it's all tilebased? |
| 18:10.16 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 18:10.22 | Mexa_ | Oh well |
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| 18:10.46 | Mexa_ | It's not like our original demo have anything more to offer in those terms. |
| 18:11.15 | JademusSreg | It's that the results would be a really crude platformer, makes me sad. |
| 18:11.20 | Mexa_ | Also, if so, shouldn't you be boiling over Legeria in such case, if you don't like tilebased systems? |
| 18:11.37 | Mexa_ | How's so? |
| 18:11.55 | JademusSreg | It's more the granularity of the tiles. =D |
| 18:11.58 | Mexa_ | Looking at any NES game, everything is pretty much tilebased |
| 18:12.12 | Ashamed | finally got that FUCKEN OEM MICROSOFT TO INSTALL |
| 18:12.17 | Mexa_ | The only major exclusion I have is to look at Sonic, but that's on sega genesis. |
| 18:12.37 | JademusSreg | Big tiles are garish. Smaller tiles allow you to do more with terrain. |
| 18:12.47 | Mexa_ | Also |
| 18:12.55 | Mexa_ | Having it tilebased doesn't contrain that much |
| 18:13.14 | Mexa_ | You don't have to have cubic tile content |
| 18:13.31 | Mexa_ | All in all, you need a pathing layer though. |
| 18:13.55 | JademusSreg | Aesthetics, though, suffer from big tiles. |
| 18:14.09 | JademusSreg | It makes it look crude. |
| 18:14.36 | Mexa_ | Are you talking about what you saw in sc2, or what you saw he had for pc, or both:P? |
| 18:14.40 | Mexa_ | *we |
| 18:14.48 | JademusSreg | In general. |
| 18:14.53 | Mexa_ | right |
| 18:15.08 | JademusSreg | I am making sweeping generalizations about the ugliness of large tiles! =D |
| 18:15.10 | Mexa_ | So, then, the aestetics of minecraft, terraria, and legeria? |
| 18:15.31 | JademusSreg | Yes, all ugly, to varying degrees. |
| 18:15.49 | Mexa_ | Then again, that's not why you play the game. |
| 18:16.03 | JademusSreg | But your tiles are the size of those blocks, yes? |
| 18:16.18 | Mexa_ | yes |
| 18:16.27 | A1win | there's no reason to make a game look ugly if you don't need to |
| 18:16.51 | JademusSreg | That's like ~9 times the size of a Terraria tile, from what I can tell from the resolution. |
| 18:16.55 | Mexa_ | I know that, but graphics still don't define the game, it would all depend |
| 18:17.04 | JademusSreg | Which makes it at least 9 times uglier. |
| 18:17.05 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:17.18 | A1win | minecraft looks much better with highres textures and would look even better with higher quality 3D graphics |
| 18:17.22 | Mexa_ | Jademus, they're scaled up too ._. |
| 18:17.38 | A1win | and would be a better game if it did look better |
| 18:17.42 | Mexa_ | I was only putting them in perspective to what the original demo is like |
| 18:17.56 | Ashamed | yep a1win i agree |
| 18:18.02 | Ashamed | there is a point where graphics do matter >< |
| 18:18.06 | Mexa_ | There's mods for that though. |
| 18:18.20 | JademusSreg | This is just me opining, of course. Not speaking in any technical design capacity. |
| 18:18.35 | A1win | your map won't even have mods :P |
| 18:18.46 | Mexa_ | yeahyeah:P |
| 18:18.48 | JademusSreg | I like smaller tiles, it provides more granularity. |
| 18:19.01 | Mexa_ | Like I said, it's for shits and lols, rather than serious |
| 18:19.08 | JademusSreg | Haha, fair enough. |
| 18:19.11 | Mexa_ | It would be nice too see how sc2 handles it |
| 18:19.17 | JademusSreg | Can't begrudge a man for his love of shits. |
| 18:19.21 | Mexa_ | And from there, it can be improved. |
| 18:20.14 | Mexa_ | oooh, I'd love to make something like sonic the hedgehog |
| 18:20.33 | Mexa_ | loops and smooth terrain even though it's tilebased, for the win :> |
| 18:20.44 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 18:22.09 | Mexa_ | They do have a pathing layer on top of that though, so I wonder how I'd go with that in such case |
| 18:23.19 | Mexa_ | I wonder how it would be to implement something like this special stage:P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQPzO57uFmY |
| 18:30.24 | Ashamed | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj8q6lntNjw |
| 18:33.16 | Mexa_ | uh guys, how was it that you get the background visible in the terrain editor? |
| 18:33.27 | Mexa_ | The one where you see a planet in the background, etc |
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| 18:35.41 | Ashamed | a mod mexa??? i dunno -.- |
| 18:36.34 | Xaragoth | I wish I had a SMITE Key |
| 18:36.36 | Xaragoth | Tribes is fun and all |
| 18:36.42 | Xaragoth | but I wanna play some 3rd Person DotA |
| 18:36.43 | Xaragoth | ~ |
| 18:36.53 | Mexa_ | Ashamed, what? |
| 18:37.07 | Mexa_ | I mean the camera |
| 18:37.19 | Mexa_ | You have do do some command to have the background visible |
| 18:37.23 | JademusSreg | 3rd Person Dota. So, Super Monday Night Combat? |
| 18:37.29 | Mexa_ | like shift+scroll or something, but I can't get it to work |
| 18:37.43 | Xaragoth | JademusSreg: Nah ... think LoL in 3rd Person .. sec |
| 18:37.53 | Mexa_ | if you have the char terrain, it should show a planet in the background, in the terrain editor. |
| 18:38.03 | Xaragoth | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/11/16/thor-feelings-smite-screenshots/ |
| 18:38.04 | Xaragoth | there |
| 18:38.30 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
| 18:39.09 | Xaragoth | Also, very highpoly A&T |
| 18:39.12 | Xaragoth | It's F2P |
| 18:39.17 | Xaragoth | They're going to get money like mad |
| 18:39.17 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 18:42.07 | Mexa_ | argh, nvm, wrong tileset |
| 18:44.21 | Ashamed | fricken mexa |
| 18:44.23 | Ashamed | you should know better |
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| 18:45.11 | Alrik | hullo |
| 18:46.48 | Mexa_ | heyhey |
| 18:50.32 | Vandal | Wow |
| 18:50.45 | Vandal | Bounty's review is crap |
| 18:50.47 | Ashamed | WOW |
| 18:50.51 | Ashamed | no it aint |
| 18:51.07 | Ashamed | its a bounty map |
| 18:51.15 | Xaragoth | it has a 3.x for terrain out of 5 |
| 18:51.18 | Vandal | They said "we couldn't find any bugs at all except the ones Blizzard causes" Glitches - 3.33 |
| 18:51.23 | Xaragoth | that makes me questions the review already |
| 18:51.38 | Ashamed | no matter how much potential it has... its still bountys map :P |
| 18:51.40 | Mexa_ | The review is odd, I agreed on that |
| 18:51.55 | Vandal | How is a game bugless by your standards, and at the same time loses 1.67 points on glitches? |
| 18:52.06 | Vandal | Dumb review |
| 18:52.18 | Ashamed | becasue just because its blizzards fault... does not make not bugless |
| 18:52.28 | Ashamed | making a game one a system that doesn't fully work yet... is buggy |
| 18:52.30 | Vandal | Ok so every map they ever review loses 1.67 points by default |
| 18:52.45 | Ashamed | no.. any w/a/s/d though may |
| 18:52.53 | Xaragoth | besides, the combat rating is too high, just because you can button smash, doesn't make it a good combat system |
| 18:52.54 | Ahli | how do you know that the errors were made on Blizzard's site? |
| 18:53.18 | Ashamed | i mean yeah its close ... but its still n ot a third person |
| 18:53.27 | Xaragoth | there are certrain standards people get hold to with their work, otherwise it's bullshit |
| 18:53.31 | Vandal | No, they all should, because they are faulting him for bugs they themselves said "are known bugs from Blizzard that the mapping community cannot fix" |
| 18:53.32 | Ashamed | if someone tried to sell that to me and said oh the engine we used it on doesn't really with with third person |
| 18:53.36 | Ashamed | but its nothing to do with our code |
| 18:53.41 | Ashamed | i would laugh my ass off at them |
| 18:54.18 | Vandal | Listen to the glitches part of the review, hear what they are saying |
| 18:54.26 | Vandal | They are right away saying they can't find a single bug he caused |
| 18:54.38 | Ashamed | Vandal that does not matter! |
| 18:54.46 | Vandal | You lack critical thinking skills, I'm done |
| 18:54.58 | Ashamed | if you have a map that does not work with the sc2 engine.. or is glitchy because of the sc2 engine.. ITS STILL YOUR FAULT!! |
| 18:55.01 | Ashamed | you decided to make the map |
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| 18:55.23 | Xaragoth | indeed |
| 18:55.33 | Ashamed | Vandal i would actually say you lack critical thinking skills. because you are saying a glitchy engine doesn;'t make a glitchy game |
| 18:55.34 | Ashamed | which is BS |
| 18:55.37 | Xaragoth | besides, I question their skills to accurately review anything |
| 18:55.55 | Xaragoth | most of the stuff seems to be uneducated player-assumptions, making the review pretty useless to anyone with half a braincell |
| 18:56.26 | Ashamed | i will say i have not listened to the review... but i would call any w/a/s/d on sc2 right now glitchy |
| 18:56.39 | Ashamed | No matter how close he has it... |
| 18:57.01 | Vandal | Ashamed just stop talking right now, you just admitted you don't even know what you're talking about and have no frame of reference |
| 18:57.05 | Vandal | You should have never opened your mouth |
| 18:57.12 | Ashamed | no i didnt |
| 18:57.18 | Ashamed | i said i didnt watch the review.... |
| 18:57.24 | Vandal | Yup, which is what we are criticizing |
| 18:57.43 | Ashamed | ask anyone here if they agree with me.... |
| 18:57.44 | Ahli | they didnt even state the "bugs" |
| 18:58.06 | Vandal | Ashamed I don't care if other ignorant people who didn't see the review want to back up your uneducated opinion |
| 18:58.14 | Vandal | I'm sure you can find some though |
| 18:58.28 | Ashamed | its not uneducated tyou fucking idiot.. ITS A PROVEN FACT THAT w/a/s/d CAUSED DELAY WHICH IS BUGGY |
| 18:58.38 | Xaragoth | actually |
| 18:58.40 | Xaragoth | it's not a bug |
| 18:58.45 | Xaragoth | it's the internal timer |
| 18:58.46 | Ashamed | Just because i didnt wathc the review does not mean i dont know about the w/a/s/d |
| 18:58.48 | Xaragoth | so it's working as intended |
| 18:58.53 | Ashamed | but not on the sc2 engine |
| 18:59.00 | Xaragoth | still working as intended |
| 18:59.03 | Xaragoth | we just have to work with it |
| 18:59.04 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 18:59.50 | Ashamed | exactly... and if someone comes up with a map that you have to just "work with" I would give it a bad review on the buggy end too.. even if its not his fault at all... He sitll decided to make it public fully knowing it doesn't work all teh way |
| 18:59.55 | Ashamed | i would say thats even worse the a bug |
| 19:00.02 | Ashamed | than*] |
| 19:00.19 | Vandal | I was hoping I wouldn't need to put anyone in here on ignore, thank you internet for proving me wrong |
| 19:00.29 | Ashamed | purposly making a map that has been proven not to work -.- |
| 19:00.39 | Xaragoth | http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/attachments/39/548/4-2010.12.08.joinsith.jpg |
| 19:00.40 | Xaragoth | lol |
| 19:01.45 | Ashamed | and if you really did ignore me because of that vandal you are a fucking idiot and i don't need to talk to you. |
| 19:02.15 | Ahli | ;D |
| 19:03.27 | Ashamed | i don't understand how people take things sooo personally |
| 19:05.51 | Ahli | it's not that your statements were wrong... it's a fact that sc2's engine isn't optimized for that. It's optimized for synchronous gamestates for each player no matter what happens |
| 19:10.56 | Ashamed | exactly.. if i played a game with the unreal engine and for some reason the engine couldn't handle part of the game.. even if they created it perfect.. i would still blame the game designer and say his game is glitchy.. knowning about a fucntion that doesn't work as functional as it should...doesn't make it any less of an issue becuase you know about it. |
| 19:11.38 | Ashamed | making something that doesn't work on an engine and knowing it doesn't work.... of course you are going to get lash back |
| 19:11.57 | Xaragoth | *backlash |
| 19:12.05 | Xaragoth | which is the precise reason we dropped out TPS for SC2 |
| 19:12.07 | JademusSreg | Or to express a similar sentiment a bit more succinctly, an explanation is not an excuse. |
| 19:12.11 | Xaragoth | I just mess around with the engine for fun sometimes |
| 19:12.18 | Xaragoth | *our |
| 19:12.43 | Ashamed | yeah xaragoth which is ok.. but there is no reason to get mad at people when they go... why did you make this even though its not fixed? |
| 19:13.06 | Xaragoth | it will never get fixed |
| 19:13.13 | Ashamed | yeah so why waste your fucking time lol |
| 19:13.13 | Xaragoth | the sync timer is essencial for competitive high level play |
| 19:13.25 | Xaragoth | though |
| 19:13.30 | Xaragoth | they could make a trigger to turn it off |
| 19:13.38 | Xaragoth | so custom maps can make use of the WASD |
| 19:13.39 | Ashamed | xaragoth you may have something there :) |
| 19:13.50 | Xaragoth | I SOLVED ALL OUR PROBLEMS IN ONE GO |
| 19:13.52 | Xaragoth | I'M A GENIUS |
| 19:13.55 | Ashamed | ha |
| 19:13.55 | Xaragoth | noms cake. |
| 19:14.05 | Xaragoth | http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/attachments/39/559/Pro_Tips_15_Wampa.jpg |
| 19:14.05 | Ashamed | thats how they should do it |
| 19:14.06 | Xaragoth | lol |
| 19:14.27 | Ashamed | just an option for custom maps to work differntly.. but then they would have to design their servers to do so. |
| 19:15.27 | Ahli | maybe they look into that after they released the arcades... |
| 19:16.23 | Ahli | or they just write a note for their next rts with editor which will be released in 10 years or something like that... |
| 19:16.50 | Ashamed | -.- |
| 19:16.53 | Ashamed | 15 years ahli |
| 19:17.25 | Xaragoth | 15? psch, 20 |
| 19:17.31 | Alrik | 25 |
| 19:17.33 | Ashamed | oh shiz blizzards makign a record |
| 19:17.58 | Alrik | always 5 more then you say BAM |
| 19:18.08 | Ashamed | 30? |
| 19:18.20 | Alrik | who knwos |
| 19:18.23 | Deaod | 5. |
| 19:18.40 | Alrik | are there any more infos on the "Titan" project? |
| 19:18.52 | Ashamed | alrik i was so pissed that blizzard didn't say shit on it |
| 19:18.53 | Deaod | MMO, some kind of shooter |
| 19:18.55 | Deaod | new IP |
| 19:19.01 | Ashamed | instead they released another FUCKING Expansion to wow |
| 19:19.07 | Alrik | going to be shitty I bet ;) |
| 19:19.25 | Ashamed | i think wow would do better if they gave the games away for either really cheap or free |
| 19:19.35 | Ashamed | because now if you want to start playing wow you need to spend like 200 bucks to get all the games |
| 19:19.41 | Ashamed | and its like well i wont ever do that... |
| 19:20.09 | Alrik | yeah.. at least the games should be around 10 euro or sth |
| 19:20.45 | Alrik | *going to look what mom put into the micro wave* |
| 19:20.51 | Ashamed | it really should i can't believe they still charge that mcuh for it |
| 19:20.58 | Ashamed | much* |
| 19:21.25 | Ashamed | i got final fantasy 11 to play with a buddy of mine and it cost like 10 dollars for like all the games.. and its like 10+ expansions lol |
| 19:21.33 | Deaod | also, why not just do it like Guild Wars? |
| 19:21.51 | Ashamed | and i knew i wouldn't play it long.. but i was like wtf ever its 10 dollars and i can play with him for a bit |
| 19:21.53 | Deaod | purchase once, play until game gets dropped |
| 19:22.19 | Ashamed | that prob works better |
| 19:22.24 | Ashamed | jsut make expansions free |
| 19:22.31 | Ashamed | so everyone feels like they got the same deal |
| 19:23.01 | Ashamed | i dunno i just don't see anyone starting wow from scratch because of the price >< |
| 19:24.02 | Alrik | *nomnom* |
| 19:24.49 | Alrik | Damn I should work on that fuckin' school project.... >.> |
| 19:25.06 | Ashamed | nah alrik |
| 19:25.07 | Ashamed | fuck it |
| 19:25.12 | Ashamed | thats how i did school |
| 19:25.25 | Alrik | yes but it isn't regular school anymore^^ |
| 19:25.26 | Ashamed | 5 minutes before class copy someone ;) |
| 19:25.31 | Ashamed | oh college... |
| 19:25.37 | Ashamed | nvm then -.- |
| 19:25.45 | Ashamed | you might have to do it..... |
| 19:25.46 | Alrik | no not colelge, don't know how to say in english |
| 19:25.56 | Ashamed | .....? |
| 19:26.00 | Ashamed | trade school? |
| 19:26.01 | Alrik | for becoming a network engeneer you also need to go to school besides work |
| 19:26.11 | Ashamed | i am a network engineer :) |
| 19:26.49 | Alrik | hehe. I am in my last year and I donÄt really like it^^ Hopping to get something in the CG industry after that |
| 19:27.04 | Ashamed | that is college/university here |
| 19:27.11 | Ashamed | i skipped school and just tested out :) |
| 19:27.21 | Alrik | ^^ |
| 19:27.30 | Ashamed | i didnt even finish highschool.... |
| 19:27.36 | Ashamed | tested out of that too lol |
| 19:27.42 | Alrik | I have to set up a DrQueue renderfarm on virtual ubuntu machines... |
| 19:27.50 | Ashamed | fun\ |
| 19:27.52 | Ashamed | vmware? |
| 19:27.55 | Alrik | box |
| 19:28.15 | Ashamed | i am still pretty new to the field.. i started IT field like 3 years ago |
| 19:28.27 | Ashamed | i didnt become a network engineer unitl about 5 months ago |
| 19:28.56 | Ashamed | but i work for a great company :) we are a small company but we have better numbers then most big companies! |
| 19:29.00 | Alrik | Ok have to figure out how to set up a virtual network between different virtualbox machines Oo |
| 19:29.07 | Ashamed | We were in the top 1000 private companies in america in 2011 |
| 19:29.08 | Alrik | hehe |
| 19:29.14 | Alrik | lol |
| 19:29.24 | Alrik | I work at a fucking computer store xD |
| 19:29.29 | Alrik | booooring |
| 19:29.36 | Ashamed | lol its the it field at least |
| 19:29.40 | Ashamed | its helping somewhat... |
| 19:29.44 | Alrik | yeah.. |
| 19:30.01 | Ashamed | so you are pretty much trying to create a cloud system? |
| 19:30.24 | Alrik | but in my last year I privately liearned more 3ds max, mudbox etc. than the it shit^^ |
| 19:30.35 | Ashamed | yeah thats how it works |
| 19:30.39 | Ashamed | if you are good just go learn that shit |
| 19:31.07 | Alrik | you have master, and some slaves, the master is the one managing the farm and the slaves render your single frames or do bucket rendering |
| 19:31.21 | Ashamed | i got my A+ certificate and i finished both test in less than 30 minutes... and both test are suppose to take between 400-500 minutes.. |
| 19:32.00 | Alrik | It isn't that hard actually, but never set up a local network on virtual boxes and never before used lunux/ubuntu :D but i'm getting used to it ... |
| 19:32.13 | Ashamed | yeah for sure |
| 19:32.44 | Alrik | are you from Mars or sth? |
| 19:32.59 | Alrik | or from the Koprulu sector? |
| 19:34.18 | Ashamed | stf |
| 19:34.19 | Ashamed | sth |
| 19:36.25 | Ashamed | Alrik so you want to do CG? |
| 19:36.32 | Alrik | yip |
| 19:36.53 | Ashamed | Fun.. I am just a tech :( so i gotta do everything it sucks |
| 19:36.59 | Ashamed | but its fun too.... |
| 19:37.02 | Ashamed | it all depends i guess |
| 19:37.21 | Ashamed | but i am oncall this week so it really sucks |
| 19:37.27 | Ashamed | i got like 10 calls last night it fucking pissed me off |
| 19:37.32 | Alrik | lol |
| 19:37.51 | Ashamed | i am hoping tonight is better |
| 19:38.07 | Alrik | good luck ;) |
| 19:38.24 | Ashamed | it sucks because our NOC is in india... so they dont give a shit |
| 19:38.30 | Ashamed | i get calls for everything.... |
| 19:38.34 | Alrik | damn I have to decide, keep on working on my Balrog model or DrQueue aaargh |
| 19:38.44 | Ashamed | let me see em! |
| 19:38.55 | Alrik | uhm facebook Raphael Jahndel? |
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| 19:39.32 | Alrik | it's not much yet but I'm doing my best .. |
| 19:40.14 | Ashamed | you have to start somewhere |
| 19:40.18 | Ashamed | the balrog is better |
| 19:40.53 | Alrik | ^^ |
| 19:41.08 | Alrik | yeah that ent thing is kinda crappy xD |
| 19:41.35 | Ashamed | yeah if you want to finish that other one up.. i would work on it a bit |
| 19:41.44 | Alrik | and the church needs more work, stopped working at it for the moment, but it stands right infront of my door so it can wait ;) |
| 19:42.31 | Alrik | nah the ent was just a mix of some mudbox tests and a tutorial |
| 19:42.44 | Ashamed | the church looks good too |
| 19:42.46 | Alrik | I don't think I'm going to finish that one |
| 19:42.51 | Alrik | ty |
| 19:43.11 | Ashamed | you got a map you are trying to work on? |
| 19:43.17 | Alrik | http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Datei:Artl%C3%A4nder_Dom.jpg&filetimestamp=20070503232456 |
| 19:43.22 | Alrik | that's it^^ |
| 19:43.29 | Alrik | many _:D:D |
| 19:43.51 | Alrik | Mom wait there is my thread at sc2mapster |
| 19:43.51 | Ashamed | you going to try to make a map with just your models ? |
| 19:43.53 | Alrik | ALrik's workshop |
| 19:44.08 | Alrik | there you can see more models and a it of an old testmap |
| 19:44.13 | Alrik | in the artist tavern |
| 19:44.22 | Alrik | it=bit |
| 19:45.33 | Alrik | but the balrog is also going to be resculped, I m just working on an extended armor, with a shoulder plate, chains, a helmet and so on, so that you can have an upgraded version maybe, like in bfme |
| 19:45.44 | Ashamed | oh yeah |
| 19:46.32 | Alrik | And I#m thinking of buying kinect for my xbox to help with animation, but I have to look into it a bit |
| 19:46.50 | Ashamed | I read something where they are trying to get kinect to work with windows 8 |
| 19:46.56 | Ashamed | so it may be a good investment. |
| 19:47.09 | Alrik | yeah there are already very nice videos on youtube |
| 19:47.21 | Ashamed | of win8 and kinect? |
| 19:48.20 | Alrik | ah you asked about my map ideas, well, a bfme map would be nice, I already worked on that kind in wc3 for years, but always started a totally new one before finishing any of them because I got better or my HDD crashed.. |
| 19:48.34 | Alrik | but in sc2 it is a problem with copyrights I think... unfortunately |
| 19:48.51 | Alrik | maybe a Silmarillion map could be approved |
| 19:49.01 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 19:49.14 | Ashamed | i want tot ry to make a map like fruit ninja... ever play that on the phone? |
| 19:49.21 | Alrik | and the other idea would be an rpg in good old dungeon siege style |
| 19:50.27 | Alrik | at first I wanted to use the "Das Schwarze Auge" / "The Dark Eye or Realms of Arkania" lore, but that would have become a problem too, I talked to the owner of the licenses.. |
| 19:50.43 | Alrik | no I never play on phones :D |
| 19:51.20 | Ashamed | i actually just got my first "smart" phone |
| 19:51.22 | Ashamed | like 2 weeks ago |
| 19:52.42 | Alrik | And I thought I was the only it guy without any interest for smart phones :D |
| 19:53.34 | Alrik | everyone'g got that damn iPhone, and I am just using my Samsung smart phone for some SMS and calls.. xD |
| 19:53.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442ccc3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.44.204.59) |
| 19:53.42 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 19:53.49 | Alrik | heya |
| 19:55.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster LunarDoom (48e0b0fa@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.224.176.250) |
| 19:56.47 | LunarDoom | i take it iiequalse^pi isnt on? |
| 19:57.03 | Xaragoth | GW2 Beta starts 16.12.2011 |
| 19:57.13 | Ashamed | does it really? |
| 19:57.13 | LunarDoom | GW? |
| 19:57.18 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:57.24 | Xaragoth | yes, it does |
| 19:57.25 | Bounty | who cares |
| 19:57.32 | Bounty | TriFaction Public Alpha starts NAOW |
| 19:57.33 | Ashamed | bounty it looks pretty legit |
| 19:57.34 | Xaragoth | anyone who isn't a dumb shit |
| 19:57.38 | Bounty | >< |
| 19:58.03 | LunarDoom | TriFaction is wow on SC@ |
| 19:58.06 | LunarDoom | SC2 |
| 19:58.10 | LunarDoom | lol |
| 19:58.10 | Darkling_ | Hellow. |
| 19:58.11 | Bounty | if u say so lol |
| 19:58.19 | Bounty | the only similar parts are the models |
| 19:58.21 | LunarDoom | it is |
| 19:58.38 | Ashamed | lol |
| 19:58.44 | Bounty | there is like |
| 19:58.51 | Bounty | Zero similarities after the models |
| 19:58.51 | Darkling_ | death |
| 19:58.54 | Darkling_ | and blood |
| 19:58.57 | LunarDoom | the interface,models, and the PVP combat is the same |
| 19:58.57 | Darkling_ | aaand |
| 19:58.59 | Darkling_ | magic |
| 19:58.59 | Ashamed | bounty vandal blocked me on irc cuz of your map |
| 19:59.04 | LunarDoom | and weapon equiping |
| 19:59.05 | Darkling_ | aaaand |
| 19:59.06 | Bounty | the pvp combat is the same? |
| 19:59.09 | Darkling_ | exp |
| 19:59.10 | Bounty | r u blind? |
| 19:59.14 | Bounty | its real time combat |
| 19:59.18 | Bounty | nothing like mmo combat |
| 19:59.26 | Ashamed | NOTHIGN |
| 19:59.29 | Ashamed | i agree there |
| 19:59.48 | Darkling_ | aaand |
| 19:59.50 | Darkling_ | enemies |
| 19:59.52 | Darkling_ | aaand |
| 19:59.53 | Bounty | the only game the combat has similarities to is Dynasty Warriors |
| 19:59.54 | Darkling_ | allies |
| 19:59.57 | Darkling_ | aaand |
| 19:59.58 | Ashamed | yeah so vandal was bitchen for you.. and he waslike why did the people say they couldn't see any bugs on bountys end but then gave him a bad score.... |
| 20:00.01 | Darkling_ | people |
| 20:00.04 | LunarDoom | wow is real time combat |
| 20:00.06 | LunarDoom | lol |
| 20:00.09 | Bounty | yeah i know |
| 20:00.12 | Bounty | i agree |
| 20:00.15 | Bounty | the mod bug isnt my fault |
| 20:00.15 | Ashamed | and i was like well mby they gave it that score ebcause of the known issue with key detection? |
| 20:00.22 | Bounty | nah |
| 20:00.26 | Bounty | it was just bc it uses a custom mod |
| 20:00.36 | Bounty | which has nothing to do with me |
| 20:00.50 | Ashamed | YO MOMMA HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU |
| 20:00.54 | Bounty | You lost all debate privaleges LunarDoom |
| 20:00.56 | Bounty | with that comment |
| 20:01.02 | Bounty | [14:55] <LunarDoom> wow is real time combat |
| 20:01.03 | LunarDoom | > |
| 20:01.05 | LunarDoom | ? |
| 20:01.07 | Darkling_ | GOLD FISH |
| 20:01.08 | Darkling_ | YEEAH |
| 20:01.14 | LunarDoom | lol |
| 20:01.28 | LunarDoom | what did you just do? |
| 20:01.32 | Bounty | funny thing is Ashamed |
| 20:01.34 | Ashamed | mby if i have time tonight i will try it bounty |
| 20:01.40 | Bounty | this is my first map i havent had a single complaint about wasd lol |
| 20:01.49 | Bounty | if anything i keep getting PM's asking why it doesnt lag as bad as others |
| 20:02.29 | Ashamed | bounty did you scale the map down a bit? |
| 20:02.31 | Darkling_ | goldfish |
| 20:02.32 | Darkling_ | soo |
| 20:02.34 | Ashamed | or is everything the same scale? |
| 20:02.35 | Darkling_ | hard to open |
| 20:02.36 | Darkling_ | ... |
| 20:02.36 | Bounty | yeah |
| 20:02.43 | Ashamed | i thought so. |
| 20:02.45 | Bounty | scaled down |
| 20:02.48 | Ashamed | How much? |
| 20:02.52 | Bounty | idk |
| 20:02.53 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:02.54 | Vandal | heyo Bounty |
| 20:02.59 | Vandal | Sucks your map got slammed |
| 20:03.17 | Bounty | by who |
| 20:03.18 | Vandal | I mean, positive review overall |
| 20:03.19 | Ashamed | oh i have this concept map and i am working with units at 0.002 scale >< |
| 20:03.25 | Vandal | but it was shitty what they did with Glitches |
| 20:03.34 | Ashamed | lol told you bounty! |
| 20:03.38 | Bounty | yeah i know |
| 20:03.42 | Bounty | i dont understand how it got hit so hard |
| 20:03.48 | Ashamed | cuz your bounty? |
| 20:03.50 | Bounty | bc of a glitch that is 100% Blizzards fault |
| 20:03.51 | Vandal | hurf we see no glitches, but -1.7 |
| 20:04.06 | Vandal | durf imma do video revoos! |
| 20:04.08 | Xaragoth | Bounty: I can Spinfusor people in the face. |
| 20:04.09 | Bounty | im 99% sure there are glitches somewhere |
| 20:04.10 | LunarDoom | ? |
| 20:04.12 | Xaragoth | Your Argument is now invalid. |
| 20:04.12 | Bounty | just hard to find lol |
| 20:04.12 | Xaragoth | ~ |
| 20:04.42 | LunarDoom | anyone seen iiequalse^pi? |
| 20:04.43 | Vandal | Bounty I had a hero archetype idea that I think is really good |
| 20:04.54 | Bounty | The only comment that bothered me was Ulosethegames comment |
| 20:04.55 | Vandal | My DotAlike won't have consumable items, so no wards |
| 20:04.59 | Bounty | talking about a maps soul n shit |
| 20:05.02 | Bounty | n he didnt even play the map |
| 20:05.08 | Bounty | if u look at his match history |
| 20:05.11 | LunarDoom | ? |
| 20:05.12 | Bounty | never played it |
| 20:05.30 | Bounty | hes just butthurt i said he sounds like Screech from Saved by the Bell |
| 20:05.30 | Alrik | looks quite nice *watching the demo video* |
| 20:05.39 | Vandal | Instead of wards, you can take a Scout archetype hero on your team |
| 20:05.45 | Bounty | it looks almost nothing like that now |
| 20:05.48 | LunarDoom | lol |
| 20:05.53 | Bounty | the terrain was revamped |
| 20:06.01 | Bounty | and the UI is abit betterl ooking now |
| 20:06.20 | Darkling_ | bount whats your map? |
| 20:06.23 | Alrik | good, because the terrain in the video is wasting much potential :) |
| 20:06.32 | Bounty | look on mapster front page |
| 20:06.38 | Darkling_ | trifaction |
| 20:06.40 | Darkling_ | ? |
| 20:06.48 | Alrik | that's what i am doing right now^^ |
| 20:07.19 | Bounty | yes |
| 20:07.32 | Bounty | im gonna try to get a mroe recent video out |
| 20:07.34 | Bounty | so many changes lol |
| 20:07.46 | Bounty | and i put in the ranking system yesterday |
| 20:07.57 | Bounty | u rank up when u play a faction and unlock titles |
| 20:08.13 | Xaragoth | bounty |
| 20:08.17 | Xaragoth | try to edit your videos more |
| 20:08.19 | Darkling_ | i thought it got a good review?? |
| 20:08.22 | Xaragoth | instead of pure fraps footage |
| 20:08.26 | Bounty | Xara |
| 20:08.27 | Xaragoth | works better on the marketing |
| 20:08.30 | Bounty | its a basic demonstration |
| 20:08.32 | Bounty | not a promo |
| 20:08.33 | Bounty | > |
| 20:08.34 | Bounty | ><* |
| 20:08.39 | Xaragoth | even demonstrations have to look shiny |
| 20:08.40 | Xaragoth | ! |
| 20:08.46 | Darkling_ | ^ |
| 20:08.50 | Xaragoth | ILLUSIONS MY FRIEND, ILLUSIONS! |
| 20:09.06 | Bounty | i just tried to explain as much as i coul |
| 20:09.08 | Bounty | in the video |
| 20:09.11 | Bounty | and i still left out alot |
| 20:09.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:09.16 | Alrik | You should youse WoW ground textures |
| 20:09.26 | Xaragoth | reminds me |
| 20:09.27 | Xaragoth | bounty |
| 20:09.31 | Alrik | I converted a lot of them already for sc2, they would make it look much better |
| 20:09.31 | Xaragoth | did you set the UV tiling up? |
| 20:09.35 | Xaragoth | for the textures ? |
| 20:09.40 | Bounty | UV? |
| 20:09.44 | Mexa_ | WoW textures looks like shit. |
| 20:09.44 | Xaragoth | command line |
| 20:09.45 | Bounty | dont even know what that is >< |
| 20:09.50 | Bounty | so prolly not |
| 20:09.53 | Xaragoth | kay |
| 20:09.54 | Xaragoth | so |
| 20:09.57 | Bounty | explain |
| 20:09.57 | Xaragoth | you go into the command line |
| 20:09.59 | Xaragoth | type help |
| 20:10.04 | Xaragoth | look for something like setuvtextures |
| 20:10.10 | Xaragoth | and set them to 64 64 or something |
| 20:10.20 | Xaragoth | that will change the UV tiling of textures (standard is 24) |
| 20:10.24 | Xaragoth | your floor will look less shitty |
| 20:10.24 | Xaragoth | ;) |
| 20:10.31 | Alrik | oh nice, I dindt know that htanxalot |
| 20:10.33 | Xaragoth | pro-terrainer has protips. |
| 20:10.33 | Bounty | sec let me open editor |
| 20:10.42 | Bounty | where do i do it in the editor? |
| 20:10.46 | Alrik | I know the option in the data editor |
| 20:10.49 | Alrik | but that doesn't work |
| 20:10.51 | Xaragoth | uhm |
| 20:10.56 | Xaragoth | check the last option of the tabs |
| 20:11.02 | Xaragoth | it's command line somewhere there |
| 20:11.08 | Xaragoth | don't have it open right now |
| 20:11.14 | Bounty | should be under texture sets? |
| 20:11.18 | Xaragoth | nah |
| 20:11.22 | Xaragoth | it's inside the regular editor tabs |
| 20:11.24 | Xaragoth | you know |
| 20:11.27 | Xaragoth | like where you save and shit |
| 20:11.32 | Xaragoth | the basic window |
| 20:11.46 | Alrik | bam that helps me very much, thanks thanks thanks |
| 20:11.46 | Xaragoth | and there on the last 2-3 things on the left |
| 20:11.58 | Xaragoth | eh |
| 20:11.59 | Xaragoth | right |
| 20:12.00 | Xaragoth | not left |
| 20:12.04 | Alrik | I can quarter all my wow exportet textures yehaw |
| 20:12.08 | Bounty | so |
| 20:12.08 | Xaragoth | brain not working due to rage from not being invited to SWTOR |
| 20:12.08 | Xaragoth | ~ |
| 20:12.11 | Bounty | its under preferences? |
| 20:12.21 | Xaragoth | you make me start up the editor |
| 20:12.25 | Xaragoth | you shall pay in blood |
| 20:12.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:12.26 | Alrik | invited? |
| 20:12.32 | Xaragoth | well |
| 20:12.33 | Alrik | wasnt it released yesterday? |
| 20:12.36 | Xaragoth | Early Access is going on |
| 20:12.40 | Alrik | ah ok |
| 20:12.42 | Xaragoth | Launch is on the 20th |
| 20:12.44 | Xaragoth | But I'm not in |
| 20:12.50 | Alrik | ^^ |
| 20:12.57 | Xaragoth | I even got my CE |
| 20:13.05 | Xaragoth | Now I got a Sith Lord fighting my Alduin Statue from Skyrim |
| 20:13.06 | Alrik | played beta, gameplay ok, rocks and clifgffs sucked so i quit :D |
| 20:13.06 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 20:13.13 | Alrik | cliffs* |
| 20:13.20 | Xaragoth | Bounty: Under Window -> Command |
| 20:13.25 | Xaragoth | eh |
| 20:13.26 | Xaragoth | Console |
| 20:13.29 | Xaragoth | Alt+` |
| 20:13.35 | Bounty | ok |
| 20:13.39 | Bounty | now what |
| 20:13.55 | Xaragoth | texuvset 64 64 |
| 20:14.00 | Xaragoth | enter that in the commandline |
| 20:14.03 | Xaragoth | also, you can use "help" |
| 20:14.06 | Xaragoth | to see more stuff |
| 20:14.27 | Xaragoth | change 64 to anything you might think is better |
| 20:14.41 | Bounty | and this uploads the map like this? |
| 20:15.06 | Xaragoth | it changes the tiling for the mapfile |
| 20:15.11 | Xaragoth | so it stays like that for everyone |
| 20:15.17 | Xaragoth | if blizz didn't break anything those last few patches |
| 20:15.29 | Alrik | that was exactly what I needed ^^ |
| 20:15.35 | Bounty | i dont see the diff |
| 20:15.37 | Bounty | like i see the diff but |
| 20:15.40 | Bounty | i dont see how its better |
| 20:15.47 | Xaragoth | go into your game-cam |
| 20:15.49 | Xaragoth | like really close |
| 20:15.51 | Xaragoth | and you will see why |
| 20:15.58 | Bounty | AH ok |
| 20:16.00 | Bounty | i see |
| 20:16.01 | Xaragoth | it's a lot better from a resolution in TPS view |
| 20:16.02 | Xaragoth | ;) |
| 20:16.04 | Mexa_ | It controls the stretching of the texture, does it not? |
| 20:16.08 | Bounty | it shrinks the textures |
| 20:16.10 | Xaragoth | the UV tiling, yes |
| 20:16.23 | Alrik | its like first you have 32 times the texture in a row |
| 20:16.24 | Xaragoth | basically instead of 24 tiles, it does 64 now |
| 20:16.26 | Bounty | how much will this impact performance? |
| 20:16.32 | Alrik | and with 64 setting you got 64 tiles |
| 20:16.33 | Xaragoth | none at all |
| 20:16.39 | Xaragoth | it's just a different display |
| 20:16.43 | Mexa_ | It can affect performance |
| 20:16.45 | Bounty | gonna test it out |
| 20:16.47 | Xaragoth | ye |
| 20:16.50 | Bounty | bc the terrain is a forest now |
| 20:16.51 | Bounty | so |
| 20:16.54 | Xaragoth | if you go for 4096 x 4096 |
| 20:16.54 | Bounty | this could help alot |
| 20:16.54 | Xaragoth | xD |
| 20:17.01 | Bounty | grass textures are meh |
| 20:17.04 | Xaragoth | that MIGHT break your texture |
| 20:17.05 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 20:17.08 | Alrik | hehe |
| 20:17.08 | Xaragoth | heh |
| 20:17.10 | Mexa_ | But since the textures are tiled at the graphics card, it might not be as much of an issue. |
| 20:17.11 | Xaragoth | what you need bounty |
| 20:17.13 | Xaragoth | is tricks |
| 20:17.32 | Mexa_ | Except that too large might be too large for the graphics card bitmap max size. |
| 20:17.33 | Xaragoth | like using the foliage tool correctly |
| 20:17.35 | Xaragoth | to make it look good |
| 20:17.38 | Xaragoth | without breaking performance |
| 20:17.39 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 20:17.58 | Darkling_ | in a spawner map, do you think a zealot should take longer to spawn than a zergling/broodling |
| 20:18.29 | Bounty | anyway to do this for textures of doodads? :) |
| 20:18.30 | Alrik | and bounty, plz use wow ground textures as tiles :), muuch better for your map's artistic style |
| 20:18.33 | Bounty | bc alot of them are blown up |
| 20:18.36 | Alrik | no |
| 20:18.42 | Xaragoth | Bounty: Won't work. |
| 20:18.49 | Xaragoth | You would have to make a seperate modfile maybe |
| 20:19.05 | Xaragoth | and put new textures for your assets in there |
| 20:19.12 | Xaragoth | with a higher resolution |
| 20:19.15 | Bounty | im gonna take some SS's |
| 20:19.19 | Bounty | the diff is very noticable |
| 20:19.29 | Alrik | *thumbs up* |
| 20:19.55 | Xaragoth | Best time to make Xara tell his tricks: When he is mad as hell and bored as fuck. |
| 20:20.05 | Alrik | ^^ |
| 20:20.28 | Xaragoth | uhm |
| 20:20.30 | Xaragoth | is this just me |
| 20:20.33 | Xaragoth | or is steam dying right now? |
| 20:20.45 | Darkling_ | in what way? |
| 20:20.49 | Alrik | don't know, haven't been online for motnhs ^^ |
| 20:21.06 | Bounty | btw |
| 20:21.09 | Bounty | it does hit performance |
| 20:21.17 | Bounty | if u use the maps max draw distance to see the sky |
| 20:21.39 | Alrik | yeah sure it dows, but people should buy stronger machines then muhaha |
| 20:22.38 | Bounty | http://i43.tinypic.com/20z2mnr.jpg |
| 20:22.53 | Alrik | hmm with that little trick... SUPER EPIC sized middle-earth maos would be possible... |
| 20:22.58 | Alrik | maps* |
| 20:23.03 | Bounty | thats the 64 texture thing |
| 20:23.08 | Bounty | looks good |
| 20:23.30 | Alrik | but if you are using a zommed in camera, it downst matter, in an rpg or sth |
| 20:23.36 | Xaragoth | suggestion |
| 20:23.39 | Xaragoth | lower the scale of the grass |
| 20:23.41 | Xaragoth | make a bit more |
| 20:23.44 | Xaragoth | won't impact performance a lot |
| 20:23.47 | Xaragoth | but looks better |
| 20:23.53 | Bounty | they are for LoS |
| 20:24.05 | Bounty | alot of mobs are just as tall as them |
| 20:24.14 | Bounty | oh |
| 20:24.16 | Xaragoth | the foliage grass? |
| 20:24.16 | Xaragoth | ~ |
| 20:24.17 | Bounty | u mean the actual grass? |
| 20:24.20 | Xaragoth | yes. |
| 20:24.24 | Xaragoth | not bushes |
| 20:24.28 | Xaragoth | L2Botanic |
| 20:24.29 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 20:25.20 | Bounty | im pretty sure foliage hits performance though |
| 20:25.53 | Xaragoth | if you tweak it right |
| 20:25.55 | Xaragoth | it looks better |
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| 20:25.59 | Xaragoth | but won't break people |
| 20:26.03 | Xaragoth | low setting removes foliage anyways |
| 20:26.09 | Xaragoth | so worry about people with higher settings on that |
| 20:26.18 | Darkling_ | is damage point, how much damage a unit does? |
| 20:26.25 | Darkling_ | because i dont think it is |
| 20:26.34 | Bounty | so what do think |
| 20:26.36 | Bounty | by half? |
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| 20:26.59 | Xaragoth | sec |
| 20:27.17 | Xaragoth | grabbing one of my less-pc-breaking terrains |
| 20:27.18 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 20:27.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx (~dillpickl@74.198.87.5) |
| 20:28.25 | Bounty | its not working btw |
| 20:28.29 | Bounty | by setting the model scale |
| 20:28.36 | Xaragoth | hm? |
| 20:28.38 | Ashamed | xaragoth whats the site for guildwars beta? |
| 20:28.48 | Xaragoth | Ashamed: It's F&F right now. |
| 20:28.49 | Bounty | u lower the model scale right? |
| 20:28.51 | Bounty | for foliage |
| 20:28.52 | Xaragoth | ye |
| 20:29.02 | Bounty | so i have to regenerate or something? |
| 20:29.05 | Bounty | for it to take effect |
| 20:29.17 | Xaragoth | ye |
| 20:29.19 | Xaragoth | usually you have to |
| 20:29.23 | Xaragoth | if they didn't change it |
| 20:29.32 | Ashamed | but there is no place to sign up? |
| 20:29.43 | Ashamed | for the open... |
| 20:29.49 | Xaragoth | http://i.imgur.com/3VOED.jpg |
| 20:29.50 | Xaragoth | there you go |
| 20:30.02 | Xaragoth | Ashamed: It's Closed F&F. No Open or Public yet. |
| 20:30.17 | Xaragoth | But going by the launch of F&F this week |
| 20:30.17 | Ashamed | ok |
| 20:30.21 | Xaragoth | I go by Summer 2012 |
| 20:30.22 | Xaragoth | for GW2 |
| 20:30.29 | Xaragoth | So, maybe around April we will see the Open Beta |
| 20:30.36 | Xaragoth | They said it'd last at least a month |
| 20:30.37 | Bounty | what should i make the density |
| 20:30.39 | Bounty | its at 2 atm |
| 20:30.43 | Bounty | should prolly raise it |
| 20:30.46 | Xaragoth | You gotta try around |
| 20:30.53 | Xaragoth | enough to make it look good |
| 20:30.56 | Ashamed | ima get starwars and check that out |
| 20:30.58 | Xaragoth | but not enough to impact performance to much |
| 20:31.28 | Bounty | 3 looks decent |
| 20:31.37 | Xaragoth | screenshot, shall tell if decent |
| 20:31.38 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 20:31.45 | Bounty | taking one now |
| 20:31.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:32.47 | Xaragoth | Ashamed: Behold! http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/646 |
| 20:32.56 | Alrik | Xara your lil trick encouraged me to map again X.x |
| 20:33.09 | Alrik | now I will fail all my final projects |
| 20:33.10 | Xaragoth | Alrik: I got a lot more. But I'm not telling. |
| 20:33.42 | Alrik | YOu are DEA from inwarcraft back then right? |
| 20:33.46 | Bounty | http://i43.tinypic.com/dzv4o2.jpg |
| 20:33.46 | Bounty | there |
| 20:33.49 | Bounty | better? |
| 20:33.50 | Xaragoth | yes |
| 20:33.56 | Alrik | kk |
| 20:34.05 | Xaragoth | ye seems alright |
| 20:34.26 | Alrik | remembered that somehow |
| 20:35.12 | Alrik | would really like to turn time back and map for wc3 again with all I know now xD |
| 20:35.25 | Xaragoth | lol |
| 20:36.30 | Ashamed | xaragoth that comic was great ha |
| 20:36.47 | Bounty | u liek mah portal |
| 20:36.48 | Bounty | >< |
| 20:36.49 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | if only w3 had a data editor |
| 20:36.50 | Xaragoth | http://www.darthhater.com/comics/pro-tips/15296-kill-10-rats |
| 20:36.52 | Xaragoth | try this |
| 20:37.46 | Bounty | ty for the help Xara |
| 20:37.54 | Ashamed | xara did you try the beta? |
| 20:39.06 | Xaragoth | ye |
| 20:39.14 | Xaragoth | I wouldn't have pre-ordered a CE otherwise, would I? |
| 20:39.15 | Xaragoth | :P |
| 20:39.18 | Bounty | btw |
| 20:39.27 | Bounty | the new terrain looks alot better than the old one in those videos yes? |
| 20:39.32 | Xaragoth | ye |
| 20:39.34 | Xaragoth | the old one was |
| 20:39.35 | Xaragoth | let's say |
| 20:39.44 | Xaragoth | I PUNCH YOUR NUTS THROUGH YOUR EYES |
| 20:39.45 | Xaragoth | ~ |
| 20:39.50 | Ashamed | i liked the beta.. it was refreshing that the game brought more of the RPG aspect back to the MMO |
| 20:39.54 | Ashamed | i think i will enjoy it |
| 20:40.02 | Xaragoth | I will use it to bridge me to GW2 |
| 20:40.03 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 20:40.27 | Ashamed | well you pre-ordered so you have early access |
| 20:40.32 | Ashamed | so you need to tell me what server you pick |
| 20:40.33 | Xaragoth | would |
| 20:40.36 | Xaragoth | if bioware didn't work 6h |
| 20:40.43 | Xaragoth | and take 18h breaks |
| 20:40.44 | Xaragoth | ~ |
| 20:40.46 | Ashamed | lol |
| 20:40.53 | Xaragoth | Darth Revan's Mask btw |
| 20:40.55 | Xaragoth | but it's german |
| 20:41.13 | Ashamed | oh i was not sure if they had cross servers >< |
| 20:41.16 | Ashamed | then mby not :( |
| 20:41.24 | Ashamed | i like cross servers better! |
| 20:41.25 | Alrik | Darth Revan rocks ;) |
| 20:41.26 | Xaragoth | will probably play on a english eu realm though |
| 20:41.34 | Xaragoth | with some international friends |
| 20:41.34 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 20:41.57 | Alrik | damn forgot turning sopcast on for football -.- |
| 20:43.55 | Ashamed | my birthday is 2 days before starwars comes out so i wil get it on release :P |
| 20:44.16 | Alrik | ^^ |
| 20:44.54 | Alrik | what the fuck I#m watching Fulham vs Odense now, the link said it was Lazio -.-" |
| 20:45.34 | Xaragoth | going with Powertech BH |
| 20:45.55 | Xaragoth | seeing how most are Lightsaber Guys, followed by Merc BHs |
| 20:46.04 | Xaragoth | I will hopefully be a bit more requested as a Tank |
| 20:46.05 | Xaragoth | : |
| 20:46.06 | Xaragoth | :P |
| 20:46.26 | Ashamed | i think i am going to be a good ol' sith warrior |
| 20:46.46 | Xaragoth | going to twink that :< |
| 20:46.56 | Xaragoth | because ... I need those professions for my char |
| 20:46.57 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 20:47.58 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | doesnt the starwars mmo come out tommarow |
| 20:48.05 | Ashamed | mby easrly release |
| 20:48.09 | Ashamed | it comes out next tuesday |
| 20:48.14 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | damn |
| 20:48.24 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i heard on g4 it was like 2 days away |
| 20:48.32 | Ashamed | it is for early release |
| 20:48.34 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | this was yesterdays episode |
| 20:48.35 | Ashamed | if you pre-ordered |
| 20:48.38 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i see |
| 20:48.41 | Ashamed | you can get early access |
| 20:48.55 | Xaragoth | *up to 5 days |
| 20:48.58 | Xaragoth | actually 7 |
| 20:49.00 | Xaragoth | they added 2 days |
| 20:49.09 | Ashamed | ... so it came out this tuesday xara? |
| 20:49.23 | Xaragoth | the invite for july preorder started yesterday, yes |
| 20:49.46 | Ashamed | i was going to pre-order it but i was pretty sure i wasn't going to get much more time |
| 20:49.50 | Ashamed | so i was like we |
| 20:49.52 | Ashamed | w/e |
| 20:49.58 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 20:50.02 | Xaragoth | xD |
| 20:50.04 | Xaragoth | well |
| 20:50.05 | Ashamed | i can wait ;) |
| 20:50.09 | Xaragoth | they had a huge spike in july |
| 20:50.12 | Xaragoth | in pre-order |
| 20:50.22 | Xaragoth | I hope to be in by friday |
| 20:50.33 | Ashamed | i dont like pre-ordering |
| 20:51.01 | Xaragoth | i don't like it when multiple shops have different pre-order boni |
| 20:51.06 | Xaragoth | like with space marine |
| 20:51.10 | Xaragoth | 6 different ones |
| 20:51.11 | Ashamed | buy our game now because it will be sold out... " Which i have never seen in my life" |
| 20:51.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 20:51.53 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i got preorder halo reach after it was released never pre ordered |
| 20:52.02 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | they over stiocked |
| 20:52.05 | Ashamed | lol |
| 20:52.08 | Ashamed | which always happens |
| 20:52.15 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | happens alot here where i live |
| 20:52.17 | Ashamed | when halo 2 came out i was kinda freaking out |
| 20:52.20 | Ashamed | and i went to pre-order it |
| 20:52.40 | Ashamed | and the guy was like who fucking cares i will give you a free one if its not in here on the release when you walk in |
| 20:52.45 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | only thing hard to get is console releases |
| 20:52.51 | Ashamed | .... I got the special edition....... |
| 20:52.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 20:53.01 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thats legit |
| 20:53.06 | Ashamed | no not for free |
| 20:53.10 | Ashamed | i bouight the special edition |
| 20:53.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | for the other guy it is |
| 20:53.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 20:53.25 | Ashamed | becuase not only did they have the normal copy still in stock.. they had the special edition |
| 20:53.37 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i want to get the spec for d3 |
| 20:53.39 | Ashamed | so i dont pre-order games |
| 20:53.42 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | onbly 99 bucks |
| 20:53.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | cheaper than sc2 |
| 20:53.54 | Ashamed | i dont get special editions anymore either >< |
| 20:53.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | and it comes with more |
| 20:54.20 | Ashamed | you can get the same game for 60 dollars too :) |
| 20:54.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | this will be my first spec edition |
| 20:54.31 | Ashamed | oh tis ok then |
| 20:54.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | not the extra shit |
| 20:54.42 | Ashamed | extra stuff that you wont ever use besides the authenticator |
| 20:54.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i want the new sc2 portraits and the angel wings |
| 20:54.53 | Ashamed | i bought war3 special edition lol |
| 20:55.01 | Alrik | lol bought the CE for bfme2, that was total crap |
| 20:55.05 | Ashamed | before frozen |
| 20:55.05 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | really |
| 20:55.21 | Alrik | but the prize was the same at that time so...^^ |
| 20:55.25 | Ashamed | sadly i only had a 98 at the time |
| 20:55.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | idk i think d3 sopec is pretty good |
| 20:55.31 | Ashamed | and i couldn't even play it |
| 20:57.08 | Ashamed | unless it gives my ingame character a golden dick i do not want it |
| 20:58.15 | Bounty | lol wierd |
| 20:58.18 | Bounty | Xaragoth |
| 20:58.23 | Bounty | ppl are reporting performance GAINS |
| 20:58.26 | Bounty | with the new textures |
| 20:59.06 | Xaragoth | Magic. |
| 20:59.15 | Bounty | btw |
| 20:59.20 | Bounty | whats the max map file size now? |
| 20:59.26 | Bounty | im at 20.2mb |
| 20:59.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:59.49 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | did they raise the limit a map can be |
| 20:59.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i though it can only be 20 mb |
| 21:00.14 | Bounty | well im at 20.2 |
| 21:00.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | are you using mods |
| 21:00.20 | Bounty | guess ill have to move some assets to the mod |
| 21:00.24 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:00.27 | Bounty | the entire project |
| 21:00.30 | Bounty | is about 35-40mb |
| 21:00.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | that might be why |
| 21:00.33 | Bounty | if u count the mod |
| 21:00.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | oh wow |
| 21:00.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | nvm |
| 21:00.47 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | are you able to publish the map file |
| 21:00.50 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:00.54 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | with it being over 20 mb |
| 21:00.55 | Bounty | its live now |
| 21:00.58 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hmmmm |
| 21:01.01 | Bounty | i think its bc im just barely over |
| 21:01.04 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | maybe its 25 |
| 21:01.26 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thats doesnt make sense |
| 21:01.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | the alot a certain size for everyone |
| 21:01.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | they |
| 21:01.46 | Xaragoth | It should be 1 GB |
| 21:01.49 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 21:01.50 | Xaragoth | Dynamically assigned |
| 21:01.57 | Xaragoth | Lots of people don't need the space |
| 21:02.02 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i think they should have you request space |
| 21:02.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | like request to be author |
| 21:02.23 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | everyone starts at 0 then your request space |
| 21:02.25 | Bounty | uncompress |
| 21:02.26 | Bounty | my map is like |
| 21:02.28 | Bounty | 80mb |
| 21:02.29 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:02.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 21:02.38 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | mine is like 17mb |
| 21:02.41 | Ashamed | good |
| 21:02.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im moving all models to a mod now |
| 21:02.56 | Bounty | im gonna have to move my sound files to the mod |
| 21:03.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i will too |
| 21:03.10 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so i can have variety |
| 21:03.18 | Bounty | im prolly going to need a second mod |
| 21:03.26 | Bounty | im in alpha stage... |
| 21:03.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | some people have like 5 |
| 21:03.34 | Bounty | and im already about ot max out my mod and map file |
| 21:03.34 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im in pre alpha |
| 21:03.48 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | im working on my spells |
| 21:03.53 | Ashamed | well i published one that was 1gb |
| 21:03.54 | Ashamed | so ha |
| 21:03.56 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | 20 |
| 21:04.14 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | how did you get 1gb |
| 21:04.24 | Ashamed | i liez |
| 21:04.25 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | you can obnly have a quarter of that |
| 21:04.30 | Ashamed | :( |
| 21:04.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 21:04.41 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | you should be ashamed |
| 21:04.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | :P |
| 21:04.54 | Ashamed | i am |
| 21:04.58 | Ashamed | trust me.... |
| 21:05.00 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lo |
| 21:05.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i can tell |
| 21:05.38 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ashamed what is your map |
| 21:05.57 | Bounty | im really confused though |
| 21:06.03 | Bounty | why the fuck are people GAINING performance |
| 21:06.08 | Bounty | when i just increased the texture resolution |
| 21:06.10 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:06.16 | Bounty | and the amount of foliage |
| 21:07.29 | Ashamed | nothing dragon i just have hundreds of concepts |
| 21:07.39 | Ashamed | i am like bounty but instead of telling people ahd then disapointing them |
| 21:07.44 | Ashamed | i just keep all my ideas to myself |
| 21:07.56 | Ashamed | ;) |
| 21:08.33 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i see |
| 21:08.33 | Ashamed | but i have a pretty cool Melee/bank map i am working on and a td.. and some very basic rpg concepts |
| 21:08.37 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | good idea |
| 21:08.50 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i want to know how to bank security |
| 21:08.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 21:08.56 | Bounty | Pretty sure nobody is disapointed in TriFaction |
| 21:08.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i cant understand how to do it |
| 21:08.59 | Bounty | >< |
| 21:09.06 | Ashamed | dragon this is how i explain it.... do people still hack sc2??? |
| 21:09.33 | Ashamed | yes people still hack sc2.... thus your bank will never be secure |
| 21:09.47 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i dont care if its basic i just want the regualr user to not screw up thier stats |
| 21:09.48 | *** join/#sc2mapster cintiq_ (~cintiq@122-49-164-127.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 21:09.52 | Ashamed | once blizzard can stop hackers from actually hacking their game... will be the day your banks will be secure |
| 21:09.58 | Ashamed | you can do that dragon |
| 21:10.01 | Ashamed | use a signature |
| 21:10.13 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | but i want it migratable |
| 21:10.27 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | like just change the values from like hello to (&^% |
| 21:10.38 | Ashamed | you can do it |
| 21:10.42 | Ashamed | look in sc2 |
| 21:10.43 | Ashamed | someone made it |
| 21:10.51 | Ashamed | but its very hard.. its creating your own HASH |
| 21:11.07 | Ashamed | but the signature file works for the same thing |
| 21:11.08 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | onetwo made one i asked him how he was able to manipulate strings he never answered back |
| 21:11.47 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i have the algorithm i just need to know how to change the values |
| 21:11.51 | Ashamed | if you add a signature correctly... yes they will be able to see all the varibles in the bank file but they wont be able to change it...w ell theyw ill but you can put a trigger in that detects the cahnge |
| 21:11.54 | Ashamed | and bans them or w/e |
| 21:12.13 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its for my diablo map so it has to incorperate words and numbers |
| 21:12.19 | Ashamed | i dont know why you are doing it that way... people that can get around bank signatures will be able to get around any hash you create |
| 21:12.23 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i just want the bank to bne confusing |
| 21:12.33 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | idc |
| 21:12.40 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | any regualr user wont bother |
| 21:12.46 | Ashamed | Signature protects your bank 100% |
| 21:12.52 | Ashamed | regualr users can't!!! do shit |
| 21:13.06 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so i just enable sigs |
| 21:13.08 | Ashamed | you have to hack the signature in order to edit the file |
| 21:13.13 | Ashamed | and i mean yes its possable |
| 21:13.17 | Ashamed | but normal users wont do it |
| 21:13.36 | Ashamed | yes enable the sig and then there is a trigger to detect signature changes |
| 21:13.39 | Ashamed | or bank changes |
| 21:13.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 21:13.56 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | now what if someone uses that bank on a different user |
| 21:14.01 | Ashamed | you cant |
| 21:14.03 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | does it matter |
| 21:14.07 | Ashamed | its in the signature |
| 21:14.11 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | damn |
| 21:14.14 | Ashamed | the signature captures your user name and the game |
| 21:14.15 | *** join/#sc2mapster Darkling_ (ae37aec4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.55.174.196) |
| 21:14.19 | Ashamed | so you can't interchange it |
| 21:14.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | see i want you to be able to migrate stats |
| 21:14.36 | Ashamed | what do you mean? |
| 21:14.40 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lets say |
| 21:14.45 | Ashamed | you want people to share banks? |
| 21:14.45 | Darkling_ | why is it so hard to make a baneling heal? |
| 21:14.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | you chnage your name on bnet |
| 21:15.03 | Ashamed | i dont think that matters dragon |
| 21:15.06 | Ashamed | its your account not your name |
| 21:15.16 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | or create another bnet account |
| 21:15.32 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | idk i guess its stupid |
| 21:15.33 | Ashamed | the problem with that dragon how will you stop people from sharing stats |
| 21:15.41 | Ashamed | dude i just lvled this guy up to 100 |
| 21:15.42 | Ashamed | here you go |
| 21:16.00 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol what? leveled to 100 |
| 21:16.13 | Ashamed | i am just saying as an example |
| 21:16.17 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | oh i see |
| 21:16.23 | Ashamed | man i got the best fucking weapon in the game |
| 21:16.24 | Ashamed | here you go |
| 21:16.30 | Ashamed | now we both have it! |
| 21:16.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i see now |
| 21:16.34 | Ashamed | oh lets dupe it again! |
| 21:16.36 | Ashamed | now 3 of us have it! |
| 21:16.40 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 21:16.46 | Vandal | Bounty you still there? |
| 21:16.51 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:16.53 | Ashamed | i would just stick with the signatures and call it good |
| 21:16.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | now what if thier bank becomes corrupt |
| 21:16.58 | Ashamed | you may have a hacker here or there |
| 21:17.03 | Ashamed | but most people will enjoy the game |
| 21:17.09 | Vandal | so seriously, what do you know about Karawasa? |
| 21:17.14 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | how will i reste thier stats |
| 21:17.14 | Vandal | He wants to work with me on the game |
| 21:17.26 | Ashamed | its a trigger look in the editor |
| 21:17.36 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | so i can bypass sigs |
| 21:17.37 | Ashamed | it litterlly like says check bank file and then you can say if changed |
| 21:17.41 | Ashamed | then do this |
| 21:17.53 | Ashamed | and you can than run any trigger |
| 21:17.58 | Ashamed | then* |
| 21:18.00 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | like no if someone corrupted thier bank due to a patch or something |
| 21:18.01 | Darkling_ | why are you soo woried bout a hacker? |
| 21:18.04 | Bounty | i dont know nething about him Vandal |
| 21:18.04 | Ashamed | you can ban them delete the bank w/e |
| 21:18.09 | Darkling_ | what will a few hackers do to you? |
| 21:18.34 | Ashamed | well dragon shit happens.. but i am sure you can create a system that detects changes and before assuming they hhacked. have it just double check everything |
| 21:18.37 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i dont care about hackers |
| 21:18.46 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ok |
| 21:19.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | also another note how do i migrate banks to a different version lets say like zerg hunter rpg |
| 21:19.27 | Ashamed | you just tell it to load the same bank file |
| 21:19.28 | Ashamed | :) |
| 21:19.29 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i might make act 2 laafter act 1 |
| 21:19.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | they in differenty folders that all |
| 21:20.10 | Ashamed | i believe you can do it... but i am not sure |
| 21:20.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ill take a look how zhrpg does it |
| 21:20.35 | Ashamed | my sc2 broked |
| 21:20.37 | Ashamed | so i can check :( |
| 21:20.40 | Ashamed | can't* |
| 21:20.43 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 21:21.11 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ill look into it later anyways |
| 21:21.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i actyually have to add to my bank files |
| 21:24.15 | Ashamed | i created a skill tree for my bank and it has 40 skills so far |
| 21:24.16 | Ashamed | it all works :) |
| 21:24.50 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | mine will only have 30 per hero i have 7 banks one for each hero |
| 21:25.22 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | keeping track of inventory will be more difficult |
| 21:25.33 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | as there is the stash info aswell |
| 21:25.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster SnyderGuy (b812c0d9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.18.192.217) |
| 21:26.04 | Bounty | Sure is going to suck when i have to find an EU Uploader for TriFaction |
| 21:26.44 | Bounty | I should do a fundraiser |
| 21:26.50 | Bounty | EU people fund me money to buy a copy of sc2 |
| 21:26.51 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 21:26.52 | Bounty | =P |
| 21:26.57 | Bounty | n ill upload it lol |
| 21:26.59 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thats hilarious |
| 21:27.07 | Ashamed | -.- |
| 21:27.12 | Ashamed | or just ask someone? |
| 21:27.14 | Bounty | bc u cant really trust anyone |
| 21:27.15 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 21:27.21 | Bounty | yeah but who do you trust Ashamed |
| 21:27.22 | Bounty | honestly |
| 21:27.25 | Bounty | who CAN you trust |
| 21:27.26 | Ashamed | you can trust people |
| 21:27.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:27.30 | Bounty | no u cant |
| 21:27.32 | Ashamed | mexa i would trust |
| 21:27.37 | Bounty | Mexa wont do it |
| 21:27.39 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i trust ashamed |
| 21:27.44 | Ashamed | um xaragoth is good |
| 21:27.48 | Bounty | Bc it "violates copyright" |
| 21:27.48 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ahli |
| 21:27.58 | Ashamed | fucking mexa |
| 21:28.03 | Ashamed | i could hear him say something like that |
| 21:28.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:28.15 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 21:28.17 | Bounty | its why EU never got Battlefield Egypt II |
| 21:28.23 | Ashamed | i bet i could get mexa to publish one of my maps :P |
| 21:28.38 | Ashamed | Bounty there are plenty of people here that just enjoy seeing people creating maps |
| 21:28.59 | Ashamed | if you want to find someone to trust you are in the correct place |
| 21:29.02 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | some day ill buy a eu account to pub my map |
| 21:29.11 | Bounty | not really |
| 21:29.17 | Ashamed | yes really |
| 21:29.19 | Bounty | i could talk alot of smack |
| 21:29.23 | Bounty | and still not be trustworthy |
| 21:29.26 | Bounty | words are words |
| 21:29.30 | Ashamed | well duh |
| 21:29.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i dont really worry about eu pubs because they cant do anything |
| 21:29.39 | Ashamed | but people in this community have the same goals as you |
| 21:29.45 | Bounty | they could publish ur map on mapster |
| 21:29.46 | Ashamed | its not like just some noob going ooooh look at this map |
| 21:29.50 | Vandal | ah ok Bounty, thanks |
| 21:29.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | the irc community is prety tight |
| 21:30.09 | Ashamed | i feel the same dragon... |
| 21:30.17 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | well its really only us |
| 21:30.20 | Ashamed | i have not really talked to anyone that i feel would just straight up fuck em |
| 21:30.29 | Ashamed | me* |
| 21:30.29 | Bounty | i would fuck you |
| 21:30.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ^ exactkly |
| 21:30.39 | Bounty | just saying |
| 21:30.44 | Ashamed | bounty shhh you wern't suppose to tell people that >< |
| 21:30.46 | Ashamed | that was our secret |
| 21:30.50 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 21:30.52 | Bounty | Thats how he got his name |
| 21:31.00 | Ashamed | Put me in my place... |
| 21:31.00 | Bounty | got buttfucked by bounty and lives his life on shame |
| 21:31.01 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lmao |
| 21:31.07 | Bounty | lolol |
| 21:31.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | its amazing how many people dont join this community |
| 21:31.39 | Bounty | That has a nice ring to it yano |
| 21:31.40 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | all the great minds are here |
| 21:31.42 | Bounty | Buttfucked by Bounty |
| 21:31.48 | Bounty | it just sounds nice |
| 21:31.53 | Bounty | triple B |
| 21:32.17 | Bounty | btw |
| 21:32.23 | Bounty | i am not the king of disapointment for the record |
| 21:32.25 | Bounty | Malu is |
| 21:32.27 | Bounty | =P |
| 21:32.34 | Bounty | just randomly throwing that out there |
| 21:33.44 | Ashamed | i love getting calls where people can't change brightnes on their laptops |
| 21:33.49 | Ashamed | please just get off the machine |
| 21:34.27 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol |
| 21:35.25 | Alrik | hehe i know EXACTLY what you mean xD |
| 21:35.31 | Alrik | I m off cya |
| 21:39.43 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | we live in a society that pizza gets to your house before police |
| 21:39.53 | Bounty | lul |
| 21:39.58 | Bounty | so true |
| 21:40.10 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i know rite |
| 21:40.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | blows my mind |
| 21:40.42 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | Having sex is like playing bridge. If you don't have a good partner, you'd better have a good hand. |
| 21:44.42 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | Why do Americans choose from just two people to run for president and 50 for Miss America? |
| 21:47.28 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water. |
| 21:51.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity |
| 21:51.17 | Mexa_ | [22:12] <Ashamed> Signature protects your bank 100% - I beg to differ |
| 21:51.41 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | Whenever I fill out an application, in the part that says "If an emergency, notify:" I put "DOCTOR". What's my mother going to do? |
| 21:52.59 | Mexa_ | Hey vandal |
| 21:53.19 | Mexa_ | Karawasa is a realiable guy. He made element TD famous for warcraft 3 |
| 21:53.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | the security is only as good as the hacker making it |
| 21:53.37 | Mexa_ | I mean, he is the creator of it. |
| 21:53.43 | Ashamed | omg this guy just made me want to shoot my head off |
| 21:54.06 | Ashamed | this guy swore to me that his brightness on his computer gets lower when he gets home |
| 21:54.27 | Ashamed | and i am like ok lets look at your power scheme to see if when its running off battery if it dims the display |
| 21:54.32 | Ashamed | and everything was goodl.... |
| 21:54.39 | Ashamed | so i had him unplug his laptop and nothing dimmed |
| 21:54.57 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | some people are just so ignorant |
| 21:54.58 | Ashamed | but this guy aurgued with me and swore to me that it changes athome and he knows it will do it again |
| 21:54.58 | Mexa_ | [22:27] <Ashamed> fucking mexa - pewpew xD |
| 21:55.24 | Ashamed | .. and i was like dude your laptop power scheme can't detect your networks |
| 21:55.27 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | tell him where to stick it |
| 21:55.39 | Ashamed | the only thing that will change is if its plugged in or not plugged in |
| 21:55.43 | Ashamed | andhe just kept going |
| 21:56.03 | Ashamed | and he was ike i want this fixed and iw as like HOW AM I SUPPOSE TO FIX SOMETHING THAT JUST WORKED |
| 21:56.08 | Mexa_ | Hey Bounty, judging by that, you say you have none to trust, but I would have been trusted otherwise, if it wasn't a personal/moral dispute? |
| 21:56.13 | Ashamed | -.- so when he gets home tonight he is going to call me |
| 21:56.29 | Ashamed | mexa you wouldn't publish my map for me :( |
| 21:56.46 | Ashamed | i feel like we be brothas from anotha motha |
| 21:56.47 | Mexa_ | I would, if it had no dispute:P |
| 21:56.58 | Ashamed | oh its cuz of the models in his map |
| 21:56.59 | Ashamed | oh i see |
| 21:57.11 | Ashamed | thats pretty smart.. why get banned for bountys map |
| 21:57.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol i see |
| 21:57.31 | Mexa_ | All in all, I mean, Jademus does also use copyrighted material in his map, and I have published that |
| 21:57.39 | Mexa_ | The difference is that he got permission |
| 21:57.46 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:57.47 | Ashamed | what material? |
| 21:57.51 | Mexa_ | Some music |
| 21:57.57 | Bounty | im sure DarkRev has permission from the author of the GodFather soundtrack |
| 21:58.01 | Bounty | and yet he isnt banned |
| 21:58.02 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i use copyritten stuff but i use blizz copyritten stuff so i should be good |
| 21:58.04 | Bounty | but im not getting into this |
| 21:58.10 | Mexa_ | Bounty, I never said anything about DarkRevenant |
| 21:58.14 | Bounty | its like arguing with someone who believes in god |
| 21:58.21 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ^yes |
| 21:58.23 | Mexa_ | It's explanatory why no map is being banned |
| 21:58.34 | Bounty | its never happend |
| 21:58.36 | Bounty | ever |
| 21:58.41 | Mexa_ | The holder of the assets have not filed a DCMA |
| 21:58.41 | Ashamed | Bounty ... you can't exect someone to break the game rules to upload your map |
| 21:58.44 | Mexa_ | That's that simple |
| 21:58.45 | Bounty | but im gonna stop my debate there |
| 21:58.57 | Ashamed | even if you are pretty sure nothing will happen.. blizzard has already stated that its against their policy |
| 21:58.58 | Bounty | Ashamed, its not a rule |
| 21:59.02 | Bounty | no map has been banned |
| 21:59.05 | Ashamed | so why would mexa do it |
| 21:59.11 | Ashamed | it is their policy |
| 21:59.19 | Mexa_ | Bounty, say I made a song, and you used it without permission, I could send a DCMA form to Blizzard and have your map removed |
| 21:59.20 | Ashamed | just because some stuff they are letting slide does not mean its not a policy |
| 21:59.36 | Mexa_ | But without a DCMA it's not going to happend |
| 21:59.46 | Ashamed | and maps have been banned but its been more visual copyright that i have seen |
| 22:00.23 | Mexa_ | Yes, also that thing about the policy |
| 22:01.04 | Mexa_ | Bounty, just say yes if you get what I mean:P |
| 22:01.15 | Ashamed | and granted bounty you may be right the map may never get banned or your account |
| 22:01.21 | Ashamed | but why the FUCK would mexa test that out for you |
| 22:01.38 | Mexa_ | Ashamed, relax |
| 22:01.43 | Ashamed | NO |
| 22:01.49 | Ashamed | i am relaxed ;) |
| 22:01.52 | Mexa_ | ._ |
| 22:02.09 | Xaragoth | protip |
| 22:02.13 | Ashamed | I mean i understand what bounty is saying i am tired of everyone shouting copyright too... |
| 22:02.20 | Ashamed | but i understand why you would say no as well mexa |
| 22:02.21 | Xaragoth | buy yourself some EU key for 10$ |
| 22:02.21 | Xaragoth | ~ |
| 22:03.34 | Mexa_ | Never mind Ashamed, Bounty has heard this a couple of times before |
| 22:03.46 | Mexa_ | So just drop it |
| 22:03.53 | Ashamed | i will never drop it! |
| 22:03.57 | Ashamed | no i have a meeting |
| 22:04.02 | Ashamed | cya guys later |
| 22:04.04 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | drop it like its hot |
| 22:04.07 | Mexa_ | Seeya |
| 22:04.48 | Mexa_ | Bounty, you said TriForce has gone pretty active already. How is it going in terms of popularity so far? |
| 22:07.31 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 22:07.38 | Mexa_ | hello |
| 22:11.40 | Mexa_ | Ohnoes, Bounty ignored me ,_, |
| 22:12.02 | JademusSreg | Probably afk, didn't notice. |
| 22:12.44 | Mexa_ | [22:58] <Bounty> but im gonna stop my debate there - or that |
| 22:13.11 | Mexa_ | I nag alot about ip, and I know Bounty hates that. |
| 22:13.30 | Mexa_ | Tried to change the subject, but I suppose he was ignoring that perhaps |
| 22:15.08 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 22:16.00 | JademusSreg | I'm not gonna bug Bounty about ip wanking unless he asks me a question addressing it. I've already expounded on it previously, to do so again would be pointless. |
| 22:16.32 | JademusSreg | But I can see the value in the subject as troll bait. Only Bounty has +3 Scaled Armor of Troll Resistance. |
| 22:18.18 | Mexa_ | he has troll resistance? |
| 22:18.33 | Mexa_ | I got the impressive he have too much troll damage and too little resistance |
| 22:18.38 | Mexa_ | *impression |
| 22:18.58 | JademusSreg | That is to say his response to being trolled isn't spectacular, so it's not entertaining. |
| 22:19.09 | JademusSreg | He laughs, and brushes it off. |
| 22:19.10 | Mexa_ | ah |
| 22:19.17 | Mexa_ | I suppose so.. |
| 22:19.40 | Mexa_ | This wasn't really trolling though. |
| 22:19.51 | JademusSreg | I understand. |
| 22:20.06 | JademusSreg | Arguing on the principle. |
| 22:21.16 | Mexa_ | hmm... bah, do you think my neighbours will mind me vaccume cleaning at 11.20PM? |
| 22:21.50 | Mexa_ | I seriously need to do this before I go home this winter. |
| 22:21.58 | Mexa_ | *homehome |
| 22:22.00 | JademusSreg | Maybe. Do you like these people? |
| 22:22.06 | Mexa_ | :P |
| 22:22.12 | Mexa_ | I barely know them |
| 22:22.38 | Mexa_ | Haha, but the one right next to me is the brother of one of my teachers |
| 22:22.51 | JademusSreg | They are irrelevant. |
| 22:22.53 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 22:22.58 | Mexa_ | ^¨ |
| 22:24.24 | Mexa_ | I think most of them is away right now anyway on the student bar as they are selling alcohol at low prices right now as they are closing down for the winter. |
| 22:24.38 | Mexa_ | So meh. |
| 22:25.04 | Mexa_ | I would have gone too, to get together with a couple of friends, but I need to pack and stuff for the morning |
| 22:27.15 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | bounty is offline |
| 22:28.31 | Mexa_ | I know |
| 22:28.49 | Mexa_ | Or did you mean on mapster? |
| 22:29.18 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i meant here |
| 22:29.31 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | thoufht you didnt see the notification |
| 22:29.55 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | lol do i feel stupid |
| 22:30.07 | Mexa_ | ;) np |
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| 23:36.31 | soulcarver | whats happening |
| 23:38.47 | JademusSreg | Goblin Sapper |
| 23:40.38 | soulcarver | hmmm? |
| 23:56.04 | Mexa_ | // RegionRandomPoint attempts to find a random point somewhere within the region. For regions |
| 23:56.04 | Mexa_ | // containing only a single positive shape, this is guaranteed to work, but for more complex |
| 23:56.04 | Mexa_ | // sets of shapes it may give up after a maximum number of tries and return (0, 0). |
| 23:56.14 | Mexa_ | good thing they had the coutesy to actually say that. |
| 23:56.54 | JademusSreg | That is an unsettling native. |
| 23:56.55 | Deaod | now, hope your region does not include 0,0 |
| 23:57.07 | Mexa_ | yeah, lol |
| 23:57.27 | Mexa_ | Why couldn't it just return null ._. |
| 23:57.33 | Mexa_ | *? |
| 23:57.45 | Deaod | but well, (0, 0) is the bottom left corner of a map |
| 23:58.04 | JademusSreg | At least point comperisons are by content. |
| 23:58.05 | Mexa_ | Assume you have a region which is the entire map, and then manipulate it with subsections |
| 23:58.15 | JademusSreg | *comarisons |
| 23:58.18 | JademusSreg | Fuck it. |
| 23:58.27 | Mexa_ | Spelling problems today huh:P |
| 23:58.40 | JademusSreg | English is dead, lung lif Nglis |
