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01:35.56A1winfinally :x uploaded the video and added annotations: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RFADLgO5Vo
01:42.16JademusSregCraftCraft
01:42.39A1winindeed
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02:26.42A1winwell I just had to make a project thread as well to not feel like the effort put into making that video had gone to waste :x  http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/28656-craft-craft-mine-build-explore/
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03:07.38Knight__Hello, - an annoying newbie here, how are we all?
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04:44.10JademusSregGreat.
04:44.14JademusSregAfk, mostly.
04:44.22JademusSregI think everuyone is playing Skyrim.
04:44.25JademusSregMyself included.
04:56.19Knight__haha - worse then crack cocaine
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04:57.03Knight__I'm having 1 hell of a time grasping galaxy editor... getting there ever so slowly.
04:57.14JademusSregAh.
04:57.23Knight__pretty much any time i have a question, searching mapster gives me the answer... good DB of questions.
04:57.30Knight__(Y)
04:57.36JademusSregYou'll get it, given time and patience. =D
04:57.52Knight__Yeah, no doubt.
04:58.04Knight__I'm yet to play skyrim... i have a feeling if i touch it, i'll forget to eat.
04:58.09JademusSregAnd yes, between maspter forums and this irc channel, I imagine most problems get solved.
04:58.19JademusSregYeah, haha.
04:58.35JademusSregThe Skyrim Diet
04:58.41Knight__lol.
04:59.23JademusSregTime for me to return. So many new and interesting people to kill.
04:59.29Knight__Enjoy!
04:59.36Knight__I'm going to keep hammering my head against my keyboard :)
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05:16.35olimoli123Hey!
05:16.39olimoli123Is anyone there at the moment?
05:25.57Knight__hey
05:26.15olimoli123Ok cool
05:26.16olimoli123Um
05:26.29olimoli123Im trying to make it so when you walk in a region with a unit with 2 items
05:26.36olimoli123which i placed on the floor
05:26.40olimoli123it will make a unit
05:26.41olimoli123How can i do this?
05:27.12Knight__So if you drop the item, a unit is created?
05:27.18olimoli123Yes
05:28.37Knight__Im new as well :) JademausSreg is kind of around (playing skyrim) he might be able to help, my guess is to use a trigger on the event that X item is dropped. and the action is Create Unit at Point Y
05:29.02olimoli123Hmm
05:29.10olimoli123What if i want it to be dropped in a certain area?
05:29.12olimoli123Is that possible :o
05:29.22Knight__oh yeah i see sorry
05:29.28Knight__Yeah that shouldn't be hard I don't think
05:29.31Knight__Using a Region
05:29.58Knight__when X item is in Region 001 then action Creation Unit Point 001
05:30.15olimoli123oh kk so this is a custom code thing right?
05:30.28Knight__just don't know exactly -how- to do that.
05:30.37Knight__It should be doable just through the trigger menu...
05:30.41Knight__I can take a quick look
05:30.43olimoli123oh k
05:30.48olimoli123Would appreciate it
05:30.48olimoli123:]
05:30.57Knight__(i'm no expert either, blind leading the blind)
05:32.22olimoli123Haha, if you work it out your a legend
05:36.43Knight__See what you mean - the list of events in regards to item is limited to say the least hey?
05:37.04Knight__It's not impossible, i'm sure of it. just don't know where to find it
05:37.08Knight__i'll look a little longer.
05:39.37olimoli123Thanks, its a puzzle for me haha
05:39.44olimoli123Im thinking Galaxy Script but idk
05:40.33Knight__Most things i've found... Blizzard has already thought of and implemented i've been finding.
05:40.41Knight__they are just sometimes in the most OBSCURE places
05:41.58Knight__I've been trying to make a probe harvest gas on game initiation for 20 minutes now... it just refuses to execute my order.
05:44.31Knight__Scratch that... works a treat. haha
05:45.20olimoli123oh lol
05:49.18olimoli123Hmm
05:49.20olimoli123http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/28628-how-can-i-make-it-so-when-a-person-enters-a-region/#p3
05:49.24olimoli123Thats my post
05:49.28olimoli123Could u explain to me what that guy said
05:49.32olimoli123If you understand more than i do
05:49.33olimoli123xD
05:56.05JademusSreg???
05:56.25Knight__Ahhhh, yeah that would work
05:56.34JademusSregWhat's the issue?
05:57.06Knight__I just squashed 2 major bugs with my map :) :) :) v.happy!
05:57.21JademusSregAlright then. I'll go back to playing then. Haha
05:57.27Knight__haha
05:57.31Knight__this dude could use your help.
05:57.36Knight__olimoli123
05:57.40olimoli123Ok
05:57.49olimoli123Hey Jad
05:58.04olimoli123Im Quite new to the editor but i've learnt about triggers and such
05:58.18olimoli123Basically what im trying to do is make it so when a unit enters a region with an item it creates a unit
05:59.29Knight__Wow olimoli123, i just got ur problem working
05:59.32Knight__I'm on a roll
05:59.37olimoli123wow haha
05:59.38olimoli123how so?
05:59.38Knight__Ok, want me to walk you through it?
05:59.43olimoli123Sure thing buddy! :D
05:59.46Knight__Ok, so lets start with all the basics.
05:59.52Knight__You have your unit with your item, yep?
06:00.04Knight__And you hav your point on the map, marked out with a region?
06:00.10olimoli123yes
06:00.13Knight__And you also ahve a Point for the unit to create where you wanted it to create?
06:00.17olimoli123Well the item is picked up
06:00.17olimoli123but yeah
06:00.22olimoli123yes
06:00.23Knight__In my case, I had a marine going into a ring of rocks which was a trap that sprung a lurker on him.
06:00.48Knight__ok so set up a new Trigger in your triggers tab
06:00.54Knight__called "Item Drop" or wahtever
06:01.01olimoli123Ok.
06:01.10Knight__My head works a little backwards so i set up my action first
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06:01.22Knight__so create new action in that trigger
06:01.25Knight__mine went like:
06:01.50Knight__- Create 1 Roach for Player 2 at Unit Create Here facing 270.0 degrees (No Options)
06:02.13Knight__Where "Unit Create Here" was my point
06:02.18olimoli123um..
06:02.21olimoli123Is this a script?
06:02.26Knight__this is just a trigger
06:02.44olimoli123Ok so im in my trigger
06:02.49olimoli123where do i enter all of this in action?
06:02.52Knight__Awesome, go to Add new Action
06:02.59olimoli123Yes
06:02.59Knight__so right click, add action.
06:03.07olimoli123Ok.
06:03.12Knight__i do a search on "Create Unit"
06:03.25olimoli123kk
06:03.28Knight__So i selecte "Create units facing angle"
06:03.35olimoli123kk clicked it
06:03.44olimoli123Ok i get that part
06:03.49Knight__ok, awesome
06:03.56Knight__so your action is setup?
06:04.03Knight__so then create an Event
06:04.20olimoli123kk
06:04.24Knight__Unit Enters/Leaves Region event
06:04.36olimoli123Alright
06:04.51Knight__then in my case, It was a value of the marine, which enters the REgion i created, which i called "Drop Item Here"
06:05.03olimoli123Yeah kk
06:05.40Knight__Then, used a conditon  "Unit has behaviour"
06:05.58olimoli123hmm
06:06.01olimoli123So new condition?
06:06.05Knight__this is where you get lost yep?
06:06.05olimoli123I havent used conditions before
06:06.06olimoli123xD
06:06.09olimoli123Yeah
06:06.09olimoli123haha
06:06.13Knight__Yep, new condition on that trigger.
06:06.19Knight__Firstly - just test it without the condition
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06:06.29olimoli123I've tested w/o condition
06:06.33olimoli123Earlier
06:06.37olimoli123i did the exact same thing
06:06.37Knight__Ah - and it's all good?
06:06.38olimoli123Just no condition
06:06.40olimoli123Yeah
06:06.48Knight__okieeee.
06:06.56olimoli123So i see Within Bounds, Text Has been set etc etc.
06:07.15Knight__Yeah, conditions make me a little o_0 as well, sorta float my way through every time.
06:07.47Knight__Yep, i used "And"
06:07.53olimoli123Ok :]
06:11.34olimoli123I see And - Conditions
06:16.30olimoli123Still there Knight_ ? :]
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06:30.48olimoli123Hey there Mexa
06:31.56Knight__Holy FUCK
06:32.01Knight__you scares the shittttt out of me
06:32.21Knight__that played an alert sound on my PC that went nutso.
06:32.21Mexa_ohey
06:32.30Knight__SOZ! i was off playing my map LO
06:32.31Knight__L
06:32.47olimoli123oh lol
06:32.48olimoli123haha
06:32.51Knight__AND
06:33.04Knight__i also realised i just moved into the region and dropped the item at the same time
06:33.09Knight__my condition wasn't working
06:33.16Knight__it was just
06:33.24Knight__the create unit was spawning off walking into the area
06:33.34Knight__:'(
06:33.47Mexa_olimoli123, is this you:> http://mcbans.com/player/olimoli123 ?
06:33.59olimoli123Yes it is Mexa_
06:34.03olimoli123Do you play Minecraft? lol
06:34.09Mexa_No
06:34.14olimoli123Ah .
06:34.14olimoli123lol
06:34.28Mexa_Well, not multiplayer very often, rather
06:34.36Knight__bahahaha
06:34.38Knight__Cheater!
06:34.44olimoli123lol that guy hates me.
06:34.49olimoli123Anyway
06:34.55olimoli123Knight, didnt dropping the item work?
06:35.01olimoli123In the region
06:35.06Mexa_With 143 bans, seriously:p?
06:35.22Knight__yeah it wasn't that at all, it was simply entering the area that triggered it
06:35.34Knight__it's just i so happaned to also drop the item
06:35.36olimoli123Mexa?
06:35.39olimoli123I only have one ban
06:35.39olimoli123lol
06:35.51olimoli123i gave 143 bans
06:35.54olimoli123i used to own a server
06:35.56Mexa_oooh
06:35.58olimoli123lol
06:36.02Mexa_^^ ok
06:36.17olimoli123Hey Mexa_ you good with sc map editor?
06:36.27Mexa_I misread, so never mind
06:36.35Mexa_That depends
06:36.44Mexa_I could probably help with scripting issues.
06:36.54Knight__^^^
06:36.57Knight__exactly what he needs
06:37.13Mexa_Preferrably galaxy, though:P
06:37.16olimoli123Ok.
06:37.19olimoli123Haha yeah
06:37.21olimoli123What im doing
06:37.32olimoli123A unit enters an area with 2 items
06:37.37olimoli123he either drops them or walks in with them
06:37.40olimoli123whatevers easier for you
06:37.50olimoli123when he does whatever, a unit will spawn
06:37.53olimoli123and become yours
06:37.56olimoli123How could i do this haha
06:38.33Deaodunit enters region
06:38.36Mexa_So basically, unit enters region x
06:38.40Deaodunit has both items
06:38.46Mexa_and then create unit for player
06:38.53Deaodspawn unit controlled by player
06:39.01Mexa_Hi there, Deaod
06:39.04Deaodhi
06:39.16olimoli123Well Mexa the 2 items are required D;
06:39.24Mexa_Then what Deaod said
06:39.32Mexa_as conditions.
06:39.45olimoli123kk
06:39.51olimoli123ty.
06:39.52Deaodthere should be something along the lines of unit has item X
06:40.07Mexa_Deaod, shouldn't you be off prowling to bed too?
06:40.14Deaodwhat?
06:40.18Deaodim awake again
06:40.21Mexa_Or did you wake up at the right time?
06:40.30Mexa_ah, ok:p
06:40.41Deaodworks calling...
06:40.50Deaodjust ... not ... yet ...
06:40.54Mexa_I see
06:41.35Mexa_I suppose that means my bed is calling, or my teethbrushing
06:41.40Mexa_Laters!
06:41.49Deaodcya
06:42.11olimoli123Hmm Deaod
06:42.15olimoli123Im sorrta new to Conditions
06:42.28olimoli123could you give me a hand on how to install this item condition? :]
06:44.20olimoli123or Mexa_ :o
06:51.00Mexa_Hmm
06:51.24olimoli123First time using conditions
06:51.41Mexa_something like: unit type of 'Inventory item carried' == yourunittype
06:51.52Mexa_An item to be more clear, is a unit
06:53.01olimoli123Ok
06:53.08olimoli123So this is a 'Comparison'?
06:53.11Mexa_So, in the condition, you select 'Comparison' and then compare the unit types
06:53.55olimoli123Ok cool
06:55.44olimoli123So it says (Owner of (Item carried by UNIT in 1)) == 1
06:55.48Mexa_Seems though, that you'd have to look through the different item slots to endure you have it
06:55.53olimoli123Oh.
06:56.01Mexa_*ensure
06:56.09olimoli123Ok ill look into that
06:56.18olimoli123In the line i posted ^
06:56.20olimoli123um
06:56.26olimoli123Where do i put the item name?
06:57.03Mexa_(Unit type of (Item carried by (Triggering unit) in 1)) == Apple
06:57.21Mexa_Apple is your unit type
06:57.33Mexa_or whatever it now is
06:57.39olimoli123oh ok
06:58.51olimoli123I cant seem to select the Item..
06:59.15Mexa_hm
06:59.17olimoli123It just comes up with TSC_OBJECTIVE_FIRST = 1 when i look in variables
06:59.18olimoli123:/
06:59.54olimoli123Hmm i think i worked it out
07:00.00olimoli123in custom script i entered 'Luckstone'
07:00.13olimoli123wait nvm
07:00.15olimoli123didnt work lol
07:00.31Mexa_if you type "Luckstone" I think it would
07:00.48Mexa_considering that unittype is in reality a string, it should be able to compare that
07:01.59olimoli123Hmm, how would i enter it?
07:02.03olimoli123Sorry for being a pain btw
07:02.10olimoli123Like i clicked the 1 at the end
07:02.16olimoli123But where in the menus
07:02.23Mexa_what 1
07:02.49Mexa_Comparison
07:02.49Mexa_<PROTECTED>
07:02.49Mexa_<PROTECTED>
07:02.49Mexa_<PROTECTED>
07:02.49Mexa_<PROTECTED>
07:02.50Mexa_<PROTECTED>
07:02.51Mexa_<PROTECTED>
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07:05.15Mexa_You could also retrieve all items the unit is carrying by storing them in a unitgroup and retrieving them using "Comparison
07:05.15Mexa_<PROTECTED>
07:05.15Mexa_<PROTECTED>
07:05.15Mexa_<PROTECTED>
07:05.16Mexa_<PROTECTED>
07:05.16Mexa_<PROTECTED>
07:05.17Mexa_<PROTECTED>
07:05.18Mexa_wups
07:05.21Mexa_wrong paste
07:05.33Mexa_using             Inventory Items Carried
07:06.03Mexa_And then check the group to see if your item type is amongst it
07:07.58Mexa_Meh I gtg to bed
07:08.06Mexa_hope you figure it out, sorry.
07:30.00Knight__Howd you go olimo
07:55.45olimoli123Good Knight_
07:55.49olimoli123Worked like a charm
07:55.52olimoli123Sorry for late response
07:55.57olimoli123Btw, do you know how to add loot to units?
07:56.03olimoli123I watched a tutorial but the option wasnt there.
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08:01.15Knight__do you mean if you kill a unit, you get resources?
08:01.29Knight__If so - I sure do.
08:05.00Knight__in the data section, go to the unit ur on, make sure u got all the advanced options and stuff all clicked in, theres a setting in their called "Kill Resources" or something like that.
08:05.03Knight__Just up it.
08:05.07Knight__I gotta go for a bit man.
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10:56.45Knight__Anyone else watching Dreamhack?
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12:30.28Knight__Hey, anyone with a good understanding of the data editor around?
12:38.47Knight__Trying to achieve a Button that triggers an ability which changes a value in a variable i have setup in my triggers
12:38.55Knight__should i just make like an ability
12:39.16Knight__and then have a seperate trigger on the event that research is done, that the variable changes
12:39.25Knight__or is that stupid and there is an easier way?
12:55.07A1winmake an ability of the type Effect - Instant, set its effect to (None), and make an event "unit uses YourCustoMAbility at stage Generic - Complete"
12:56.09A1winbut yeah, you need an event to connect data stuff to trigger stuff
13:18.00Knight__Cool thats what i thought, i did it and worked :)
13:18.01Knight__Yeah
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13:32.46SheoHello...
13:33.01SheoHow do i make a camera follow something?
13:35.25SheoA unit that is
13:35.44A1win"follow unit group with camera" is the basic method
13:36.40A1winyou'll also need "convert unit to unit group" to follow a single unit
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13:40.25Sheo"Follow lasted created unit" worked for me
13:41.09SheoCan you have hotkeys for right shift and ctrl?
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13:51.20SheoI heard that you can hide healthbars somewhere in actors but where?
13:55.43A1winSheo, UI: Status Bar Flags
13:56.15SheoIn the data editor?
13:59.45A1winin the actor
13:59.51A1winin data editor D:
14:00.24A1winor you can turn them off with a trigger action as well, Set Unit State
14:09.11SheoLet's see if that works now... ;)
14:10.56SheoLike a charm
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15:22.18A1winI have a validator on a unit's weapon effect so that it doesn't work if the unit doesn't have enough ammo... any idea if it's possible to make the unit not smart-cast Move if I right click on an enemy when I don't have enough ammo? :s
15:22.38A1winit gives the error from the validator, and then the unit starts moving to the target
15:29.32Ashamedw00t just got a bigger tv
15:29.37Ashamedgotz me a 47 inch now
15:30.01Ashamed46*
15:47.31Dustin|Altnice!
15:48.08Dustinmy old republic is patching
15:48.13Dustin11 gigs =/
15:48.35Dustinand I probably shouldnt have made the 5 security questions high
15:48.46Dustinyou win some, you lose some though.
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16:52.40Mexa_http://www.twitch.tv/dreamhacksc2 !
18:03.03A1winerr... how do I set up a buff that decreases a unit's damage done
18:03.43A1winI set damage response chance to 1 and fraction to less than 1... should the location be Defender because it didn't work with Attacker, or am I missing something else
18:04.18A1winoh
18:04.23A1winthere's damage dealt fraction separately
18:14.45Mexa_http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2757798/randomterrain.jpg so yeah...
18:15.17Mexa_I expected something prettier on 100% strength and 100% variability on the random terrain :>
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18:33.11fatehey all today is funmapnight isnt it?
18:57.43JademusSreg?
18:57.45JademusSregMaybe.
19:00.33Mexa_hmm
19:01.21Mexa_Apparantly I have never seen before that there are items, item containers and item classes if you include the liberty campaign mod.
19:01.55Mexa_"Item Container NameSource
19:01.56Mexa_DiabloCharacter (Diablo Character)Liberty.SC2Campaign
19:02.18Mexa_There's also one for warcraft 3, and one for wow
19:05.34Mexa_oh well, zugzug
19:07.52AeliaD:
19:08.03Aeliamapnight seems to be dead lately~
19:12.56Ahliit's dreamhack
19:14.04Ahlibut now they have the big break
19:22.52Mexa_yeah
19:23.01Mexa_~1hour break
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20:51.57DaaraIs there a way to perma ban someone from you map?
21:29.26Ahlisomehow get his battle.net handle and make him lose at map start
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21:57.45ThialHi, is it possible to check if a unit has the object type item?
21:59.22JademusSreg?
22:00.49ThialI want to check if a clicked unit is an item
22:02.03ThialIs that possible?
22:16.58JademusSregHm.
22:19.03A1winunit filter match should do it
22:19.21JademusSregUnit Filters have a flag for item?
22:19.28A1winor at lease something can, if it wasn't that...
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22:19.33A1winI think so
22:19.47JademusSregThat's good, because there's no other native check for it.
22:20.08JademusSregJust looked through natives.galaxy, nothing so simple as IsUnitItem?
22:20.29ThialA1win: thank you, that should do it
22:20.49MakkuZhey guys
22:21.01JademusSregBack to skyrim.
22:21.03JademusSregphooosh
22:21.31MakkuZim getting crazy by a problem in sc2 editor, can somebody help me?
22:21.31A1winI just exited skyrim, starting to repeat itself already =p
22:22.29A1winMakkuZ, how'd we know if you don't tell what the problem is D:
22:22.33A1windon't ask to ask :x
22:23.08MakkuZive made 2 items that increase my attributes with a behavior
22:23.39MakkuZeach items work fine but when i pickup 2 items i cant move my hero anymore
22:24.17JademusSregModification Time Scale or Move Factor 0
22:24.19JademusSregbbl
22:24.35MakkuZmax move = 160
22:25.52Reactorex~seen OneTwo
22:25.58purlonetwo <ae070843@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.8.67> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 59d 7m 27s ago, saying: 'hmm gonna do some research'.
22:26.11ReactorexThat's a lot of research. o.o
22:29.59MakkuZwhere can i find them?
23:08.48Daarajademussreg: do you know if it's possible to have a certain person kicked from your map whenever they join?
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