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| 02:06.53 | ________________ | quick question, can some1 draw me a circle of how blizzard does angles in SC II? |
| 02:07.07 | ________________ | I've been hearing its something like -180 to 180 |
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| 02:18.20 | ________________ | nvm got it |
| 02:19.44 | A1win | for some stuff it's -180 to 180 and 0 to 360 for others |
| 02:20.15 | A1win | which is slightly annoying at times >.> |
| 02:20.44 | A1win | not everything requires the value to fit into the "default range" though |
| 02:21.02 | A1win | -90 is the same as 270, and so on |
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| 02:21.41 | ________________ | for any1 wonderingh |
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| 08:11.07 | Karawasa | hey guys |
| 08:11.19 | Karawasa | getting a trigger error and looking for someone who can help |
| 08:11.25 | Karawasa | parameter out of bounds |
| 08:11.44 | Karawasa | but even if I just feed the function a constant |
| 08:11.47 | Karawasa | same error |
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| 17:04.50 | Dustin | hi |
| 17:07.59 | soulcarver | what are people up to? |
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| 17:45.17 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 17:53.52 | JademusSreg | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/d/dd/Brandon_india_bright.gif |
| 17:54.01 | JademusSreg | It's Toki Wartooth. |
| 17:57.38 | soulcarver | jade what you up to? |
| 17:58.36 | JademusSreg | Waking up/ |
| 17:58.41 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
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| 17:59.40 | soulcarver | here come try my map |
| 17:59.49 | soulcarver | good wake up meterial |
| 17:59.52 | soulcarver | i have ai's now |
| 18:00.15 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 18:00.23 | soulcarver | and levels |
| 18:00.24 | JademusSreg | Sure, why not? I'm not busy atm. |
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| 18:00.30 | soulcarver | yay |
| 18:00.34 | soulcarver | anybody else wanna come? |
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| 18:06.23 | soulcarver | jade? |
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| 18:15.56 | SPQR | custom events-- how do they fire? |
| 18:27.46 | JademusSreg | They don't. |
| 18:28.06 | JademusSreg | They provide extra instructions for intializing standard events. |
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| 19:06.19 | soulcarver | anybody know how to add terrain to a map that didnt have terrain to begin with.... where I chose not to create with terrain? |
| 19:14.40 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Day%5B9%5D 48 kill immortal |
| 19:15.03 | Ahli | died at 51 |
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| 20:15.43 | tehbone | does anybody know how i can prevent actors from getting cloaked? |
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| 20:23.06 | ctccromer | does the funct "Set dialog item size" not work for image items? |
| 20:23.20 | ctccromer | i dont see anything wrong with what im telling it |
| 20:23.26 | A1win | it does, but you need to set tiled to false |
| 20:23.38 | ctccromer | think it already is, ill doublecheck |
| 20:24.46 | A1win | also the dialog needs to be at least as large as the item |
| 20:24.48 | ctccromer | yeah tiled's already set to false |
| 20:25.16 | A1win | dialog items are cropped at dialog borders |
| 20:25.18 | ctccromer | the image size (both x and y) is (dialog size - 50) |
| 20:26.16 | ctccromer | tryin to make a health bar. The trigger itself works -- the numbers on the bar work -- but the image itself wont change size |
| 20:26.26 | A1win | the bar image? |
| 20:26.31 | ctccromer | yeah |
| 20:26.41 | ctccromer | i made a dialog item image with the image set to green.dds |
| 20:26.42 | A1win | is it a progress bar type dialog item or an image? |
| 20:26.48 | ctccromer | image |
| 20:26.51 | A1win | mmh |
| 20:26.58 | A1win | wanna show the whole trigger? :p |
| 20:27.13 | ctccromer | k, do i copy/paste here or wha? |
| 20:27.15 | A1win | http://pastebin.com/ |
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| 20:29.35 | ctccromer | stupid IE messed up |
| 20:29.36 | ctccromer | http://pastebin.com/WHQfdrZM |
| 20:29.55 | ctccromer | the top part is from the trigger where i make the dialog, the bottom trigger is the full update trigger (both the numbers and the size) |
| 20:30.21 | DeP__ | I've been randomly having this issue where Odin hits 1HP and it cancels Barrage (if it's active) like it's supposed to, but it doesn't turn into wreckage, so it can just walk around all invincible-like... but I appear to have fixed it by changing the morph ability to Ignore Unit Cost...or that's my best guess of the 3 edits I made, anyway. :p |
| 20:30.33 | DeP__ | I came here to ask about that and bridge vision issues, but I appear to have fixed both! |
| 20:31.51 | ctccromer | odin's the megathor in the campaign right? lol |
| 20:31.54 | DeP__ | Now if I could just make the AI quit being stupid and actually expand and attack the correct direction first. <.< |
| 20:31.55 | DeP__ | Yeah. Heh. |
| 20:32.30 | ctccromer | no idea how to deal with AI and the only vision stuff i know is that theres a value for it somewhere on each unit in the data editor.. |
| 20:32.43 | ctccromer | dont know much past triggers, and still learning a lot there too |
| 20:32.57 | DeP__ | Well, the thing is, when my units were on a bridge, they couldn't see to the other half of the bridge OR see off of it. |
| 20:33.05 | A1win | ctccromer, your math is wrong o: |
| 20:33.30 | ctccromer | for what part? :O |
| 20:33.35 | DeP__ | I increased "Boost Cliff Level" to match the height of the cliffs they were supposed to connect, so now that works right. :3 |
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| 20:34.01 | ctccromer | make a region and make a revealer as long as units are in a 2nd region, which is on the bridge? |
| 20:34.46 | ctccromer | unit enters region, if there isnt already a unit owned by same player as owner of triggering unit already int he region, make a revealer / same but opposite for leave/destroy |
| 20:34.52 | A1win | two things... 1) you're multiplying the current width of the health bar image with the health fraction, you should be multiplying the default width (save it to a variable) and 2) you're using arithmetic integer to calculate the health fraction, which means that all decimal places are discarded and you're actually multiplying the image width with 0 |
| 20:35.12 | DeP__ | Nah, it was just a cliff level discrepancy. Since the units are technically standing on the terrain that was under the bridge (cliff height 0, in this case) they couldn't see to the higher cliff height that the bridges were connecting. |
| 20:35.13 | A1win | so it resets to default width |
| 20:35.41 | A1win | use set width to: convert real to integer(arithmetic real( ... )) |
| 20:36.19 | A1win | or you could set the width to (dialog width - 50) * healthfraction |
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| 20:38.44 | A1win | oh |
| 20:38.51 | A1win | you are using arithmetic real |
| 20:38.58 | ctccromer | so convert real to integer but same math, except change "health bar image width" to "(dialog: health bar width - 50)"? |
| 20:39.47 | A1win | I missed the Integer() part, seems that's already fine |
| 20:40.01 | A1win | but I think you need to change at least that |
| 20:40.48 | A1win | but hmm if it's not changing at all, not sure what's the problem... |
| 20:41.02 | A1win | the way it's set up now would just make it become smaller every time the health changes |
| 20:41.33 | ctccromer | and go back up as it regenerates hp |
| 20:41.42 | A1win | nope |
| 20:41.47 | ctccromer | i just remade the action from scratch and changed it a tad bi, gonna test it out |
| 20:41.57 | ctccromer | why not? it doesnt count health regen as "health changes?" |
| 20:42.15 | A1win | I mean if you use "health bar image width * healthfraction", it doesn't work correctly |
| 20:43.10 | A1win | because you change the width, the next time it changes, it uses that width as the base |
| 20:43.16 | A1win | instead of the original width |
| 20:43.48 | A1win | ohh |
| 20:43.57 | A1win | the integer conversion part is wrong too |
| 20:44.17 | A1win | you should have Integer(width * health/maxhealth), now you have width * Integer(health/maxhealth) |
| 20:44.21 | A1win | :P |
| 20:44.53 | A1win | you're converting the health fraction to integer before multiplying the width with it, so you are multiplying the width always with 0 |
| 20:45.10 | A1win | sorry for the confusion >_> |
| 20:45.18 | ctccromer | i changed Width of dialog item to (width of dialog - 50) (which is what i originally set it to) so it should theoretically scale both up and down |
| 20:45.26 | A1win | yeah |
| 20:45.40 | ctccromer | and np! i appreciate the help |
| 20:45.43 | A1win | but make sure you have the health fraction as a Real when you multiply the width |
| 20:46.06 | A1win | Integer(Real(width) * health/maxhealth)) |
| 20:47.23 | A1win | or alternatively: (width*Real(health))/Integer(maxhealth) |
| 20:47.39 | A1win | err |
| 20:47.46 | A1win | (width*Integer(health))/Integer(maxhealth) |
| 20:48.08 | A1win | (nothing better to do while eating) |
| 20:51.27 | ctccromer | not american? |
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| 20:54.34 | A1win | nope, how come? :X |
| 20:54.58 | ctccromer | its thanksgiving today :D one of the two "eat as much as you can fit, then eat some more" days! |
| 20:55.08 | A1win | ah |
| 20:55.35 | ctccromer | and i think down here in Louisiana, we're the only ones that really celebreate mardi gras |
| 20:55.38 | ctccromer | but anyways |
| 20:55.43 | ctccromer | this health bar just doesnt wanna work |
| 20:55.51 | ctccromer | is there another way to make one? |
| 20:56.01 | A1win | paste the set size action again ;p |
| 20:56.28 | ctccromer | this is the one i just tried and failed |
| 20:56.30 | ctccromer | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.43 | A1win | you're still converting it to integer before multiplying |
| 20:57.04 | A1win | so it does this: width = (dialog width - 50) * 0 |
| 20:57.06 | A1win | = 0 |
| 20:57.08 | ctccromer | if i do it the other way its int(real(int dialog size... |
| 20:57.16 | ctccromer | ah |
| 20:57.52 | A1win | Integer(Real((width - 50) * health/maxhealth)) |
| 20:58.32 | A1win | you just need to do the multiplication as real values, because the health fraction is less than 1 |
| 20:59.08 | A1win | and the first integer that's less than 1 is 0 ;p |
| 20:59.49 | A1win | bah I got stuck with my map when I started playing skyrim :< |
| 21:00.11 | ctccromer | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:00.25 | ctccromer | skyrim just doesnt seem like my game |
| 21:00.32 | A1win | hehe |
| 21:00.35 | A1win | yeah that looks correct |
| 21:00.41 | ctccromer | as weird as it may sound, it isnt linear enough. i dont like sandbox/sim type games |
| 21:00.56 | A1win | it is linear if you only do the main quest line :P |
| 21:02.23 | ctccromer | idk, imma piuck up my first ever FF tomorrow |
| 21:02.28 | ctccromer | FF XIII for $15 :D |
| 21:02.37 | ctccromer | i <3 black fday |
| 21:04.43 | ctccromer | IT WORKS |
| 21:04.46 | ctccromer | ahh finally |
| 21:05.18 | A1win | mmh I think my problem is that I'm not really happy with the way I've planned enemy "bases", I need something more than just going in and destroying the structures there x.x |
| 21:06.00 | ctccromer | whats your game like? |
| 21:07.26 | A1win | it's a resource management / progressive base construction thing... err difficult to explain =p |
| 21:08.16 | A1win | each player controls one SCV |
| 21:09.14 | A1win | the map is full of rocks you can mine, some give you resources |
| 21:09.24 | A1win | err I'll just go take another video |
| 21:10.34 | ctccromer | lol sounds interesting |
| 21:11.00 | A1win | I haven't explained the half of it yet >.< |
| 21:11.41 | A1win | oh well this might take a while |
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| 21:11.57 | A1win | need to take that video anyway so I can get more feedback :P |
| 21:14.03 | ctccromer | more than i can say :P i just started making my map yesterday |
| 21:16.30 | ctccromer | so in a library |
| 21:16.49 | ctccromer | i made a record with 10 variables in it, and one variable outside the record with type "- Record" |
| 21:17.20 | ctccromer | when i try to set the record to the 1 record i make (click on "(No Value)") nothing will come up, and the dropdown under "- Record" is grayed out with the record already selected |
| 21:17.45 | ctccromer | then i try to make a trigger to set the variables from that record to values, and theyre nowhere to be found |
| 21:18.04 | ctccromer | when i tried to save the map, i had to turn off the variable i tried to set to the record or it wouldnt let me save |
| 21:18.15 | ctccromer | so idk what im doin wrong -- never worked with libraries or records before |
| 21:20.50 | ctccromer | ah nvm i got it |
| 21:24.26 | ctccromer | i guess they completely took out the Anchor variable type |
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| 21:34.49 | A1win | hah... just when I thought I'd stop recording the video, my AI loop function caused a trigger error |
| 21:35.43 | A1win | ctccromer, it's greyed out because there's only one choice, that's normal |
| 21:36.14 | ctccromer | yeah i figured it out now |
| 21:36.31 | ctccromer | to call a variable had to make it (variable attached to record).(variable in the record) |
| 21:36.39 | A1win | mm |
| 21:36.46 | A1win | records are just "containers" of variables |
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| 21:52.29 | ctccromer | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/19/207/sh_minima.JPG |
| 21:52.47 | ctccromer | A1win that show/hide option variable type, and the actions Visible all have to be custom made stuff, right? |
| 21:52.53 | ctccromer | either that or im missing something.. |
| 21:54.09 | A1win | what do you mean? |
| 21:55.22 | A1win | are you trying to hide the default minimap? |
| 21:56.02 | ctccromer | im making a custom minimap |
| 21:56.09 | ctccromer | the default one is constantly hidden |
| 21:56.23 | ctccromer | thats one of the actions in the library it says to make in the tutorial im following |
| 21:56.34 | ctccromer | but i think those are custom functions he made |
| 21:56.47 | A1win | the show/hide is a preset |
| 21:56.47 | ctccromer | the guy that wrote the tutorial is one of the gys working on StarCraft Universe |
| 21:57.04 | A1win | set the parameter type to - Preset, and select Show/Hide Option |
| 21:57.34 | ctccromer | ah gotcha. never tried the preset options |
| 21:57.42 | ctccromer | any idea about the Visible actions? |
| 21:57.53 | A1win | hmmh? |
| 21:58.03 | ctccromer | look at the actions in the picture |
| 21:58.10 | ctccromer | they arent show/hide, it says "visible" |
| 21:58.24 | A1win | the visible is the name of the parameter |
| 21:58.36 | A1win | which is set to Show or Hide when calling the function |
| 21:58.52 | ctccromer | ah i see. never knew you could do that |
| 21:58.54 | ctccromer | thanks |
| 21:59.02 | A1win | so you call the function like: show/hide minimap(1, Show) |
| 21:59.05 | A1win | to show it for player 1 |
| 22:01.51 | ctccromer | interesting |
| 22:02.08 | ctccromer | i still got a lot to learn.. gonna major in programming once i get to college ^^ |
| 22:02.18 | A1win | hehe |
| 22:02.25 | ctccromer | well, computer science, but whatev |
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| 22:02.58 | A1win | computer science is very theoretical |
| 22:04.43 | Dustin | Im getting my Bachelors of Science |
| 22:05.10 | A1win | I'm quite close to tha too, been a bit stuck for a couple of years though =p |
| 22:05.13 | A1win | *that |
| 22:05.22 | A1win | not enough motivation to study properly :P |
| 22:05.27 | Dustin | Gettin rdy to start for mine |
| 22:06.00 | A1win | I'm only missing a couple of boring courses from bachelors |
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| 22:06.21 | Dustin | gonna major in Game Programming |
| 22:07.05 | A1win | we don't have anything game development related here |
| 22:07.34 | A1win | but I'm getting bored of programming anyway, designing is more fun |
| 22:07.58 | A1win | but designing becomes more effective when using a script language to demonstrate the ideas |
| 22:08.07 | Dustin | http://majors.uat.edu/Game-Programming/ |
| 22:08.53 | Dustin | The best part is |
| 22:09.18 | Dustin | That my Bachelors is gonna be in Sciece and not just Computer Science, will open alot more job ops in the long run |
| 22:09.35 | Dustin | As well as being able to get any programming job not just gaming helps to |
| 22:10.38 | A1win | uff 1 MB upstream is so slow to upload videos with x| |
| 22:10.45 | A1win | Mb even |
| 22:15.50 | ctccromer | i still have another year and a half til college >.< |
| 22:27.13 | ctccromer | what does it mean to import a library? |
| 22:27.33 | ctccromer | i thought just making it would mean its alread there |
| 22:27.38 | A1win | haven't used libraries |
| 22:28.25 | A1win | ah... you need to import it so that the script can use the functions :E |
| 22:29.09 | A1win | I mean... it doesn't just include the parts of the library you use into the map, you need to include the whole thing |
| 22:29.19 | A1win | or copy&paste the parts to the map |
| 22:34.30 | ctccromer | i wrote the whole library in my map though lol |
| 22:35.04 | ctccromer | i think that step was just for people that took the library straight from their map rather than following the tutorial and making it |
| 22:38.31 | A1win | probably :p |
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| 22:43.51 | A1win | damn this is slow =p uploaded only about half of the video now... |
| 22:44.12 | A1win | not sure if it's even uploading at full speed :x |
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| 22:58.06 | ctccromer | youtube? |
| 22:58.31 | ctccromer | took an entire day to upload a 10min video that was half a gig lol |
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| 23:52.12 | A1win | yay all videos uploaded, now it just needs to process all 6 into one... |
