| 00:17.41 | Daara | hey kueken |
| 00:17.48 | Kueken | hi |
| 00:17.54 | Daara | you were the one who was doing texture swaps with my model right? |
| 00:18.12 | Kueken | dunno, I did a lot of texture swaps :D |
| 00:18.16 | Kueken | so probably yes |
| 00:18.18 | Daara | it was a wow model |
| 00:18.24 | Kueken | ah indeed |
| 00:18.27 | Kueken | right |
| 00:18.33 | Kueken | I remember |
| 00:18.58 | Daara | im adding my own attachments to these models now |
| 00:19.39 | Daara | i think the ones that get imported with the model are different from the ones i put on |
| 00:20.01 | Daara | maybe that's why you can't attach things to them? |
| 00:20.39 | Kueken | maybe |
| 00:21.16 | Daara | what were you trying to attach to them? |
| 00:21.38 | Kueken | anything |
| 00:21.42 | Kueken | a marine :p |
| 00:21.47 | Kueken | or photon cannons |
| 00:21.59 | Kueken | it did work for your model |
| 00:22.30 | Daara | i thought you said the right/left weapon didn't work? |
| 00:23.05 | Daara | that can't be though because i can get spells and missiles to fire from them |
| 00:23.08 | Kueken | ah right |
| 00:24.05 | Kueken | they are present |
| 00:24.27 | Kueken | but they seem to have a very low scaling value or something |
| 00:24.40 | Kueken | they dont show up on the model in the previewer |
| 00:24.46 | Kueken | but they are in the list |
| 00:24.51 | Daara | yea i've noticed that |
| 00:25.01 | Daara | but they are all the same in 3ds... |
| 00:25.12 | Kueken | I dont know what affects this in 3ds |
| 00:25.25 | Kueken | but some attachment points scale any attachment to them |
| 00:26.00 | Daara | hmm |
| 00:26.44 | Daara | there really are no options for that |
| 00:31.38 | Daara | i really don't understand some attachments |
| 00:31.56 | Daara | some of my older version attachments are just non-existant in sc2 |
| 00:32.12 | Daara | but with my newer version they are all present |
| 00:32.23 | Daara | even though i've done nothing different |
| 00:32.39 | Daara | except adding ref_origin, ref_center, ref_overhead, and ref_damage |
| 00:33.02 | Daara | i guess that and moving ref_target from the ground to mid-chest |
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| 01:43.14 | Caz | JademusSreg, where was that flag you thought might help with avoiding order disruption when a caster uses an ability. |
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| 01:43.24 | Caz | Im looking for it in data atm |
| 01:43.48 | CryptRat | I feel like I remember there being a way to change an ability's button with an upgrade, but I can't find the field for it. |
| 01:46.01 | CryptRat | I see the fields for hotkey and texts for button upgrades, but the only icon it looks like I can change is the Alert Icon. |
| 01:46.04 | CryptRat | Any thoughts? |
| 01:48.05 | Caz | Doesn't seem to active atm XD |
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| 02:29.32 | Caz | Anyone around to help? Not understanding why a trigger isn't working for me. |
| 02:30.23 | Caz | Gui doesn't want to show me my unit variable :/ |
| 02:34.15 | Caz | Cant quite get TriggerAddEventUnitRange() to work. |
| 02:34.33 | Caz | tests show the actions all work, but im not getting this specific trigger to go off. |
| 02:59.10 | Caz | wake up pplz =p |
| 03:19.56 | Vailreth | im awake, im awake |
| 03:32.27 | Caz | *wave* vailreth |
| 03:35.24 | Caz | TriggerAddEventUnitRange(gt_frogCollidesUnit, null, gv_the_frog, 10.0, true); //---- trigger never procs |
| 03:36.59 | Caz | This should be procing everytime Unit:gv_the_frog is within 10.0 range of any other unit. |
| 03:37.23 | Caz | Other units can flat out collide/push gv_the_frog and this does not proc. |
| 03:38.22 | Vailreth | i dont know about triggers im a data editer |
| 03:38.36 | Caz | im trying to do both D: |
| 03:40.12 | Caz | As far as data, i need an autocast abilty that does dmg at the caster's location and radius but does not disrupt its current orders :D |
| 03:40.35 | Caz | i was trying to avoid that with the trigger mentioned above. |
| 03:40.44 | Caz | I need to handle dmg via collision |
| 03:41.47 | Caz | "you got too close to unit X, so u died |
| 03:57.11 | Caz | Oh thats retarded. |
| 03:57.25 | Caz | the trigger i was trying to use wont let you specify variables |
| 03:57.33 | Caz | only pre created map units |
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| 06:07.07 | A1win | Caz, you should use a behavior, not an auto cast ability for something that's constantly performed |
| 06:07.40 | A1win | behaviors can cause periodic effects and such |
| 06:07.51 | Caz | i have never used a behavior |
| 06:08.16 | A1win | a periodic behavior is much simpler than an auto cast ability |
| 06:08.23 | A1win | just give it a period and a periodic effect |
| 06:08.32 | A1win | and it will cause that effect every that many seconds |
| 06:08.45 | A1win | make it a Buff |
| 06:09.11 | Caz | never used a buff :> |
| 06:09.18 | A1win | it's a behavior type |
| 06:09.21 | Caz | ah |
| 06:09.28 | A1win | new behavior -> type: buff |
| 06:09.46 | A1win | and then in the unit, add the behavior to its behavior field |
| 06:10.10 | Caz | i hope i remembe this in the morning :o |
| 06:10.37 | Caz | Your msg beep woke me up lol |
| 06:11.43 | A1win | :P |
| 06:12.04 | A1win | I haven't had highlight sounds on for over a year, I look at IRC too often to not notice them anyway >.> |
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| 13:27.40 | Ashamed | good morning |
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| 14:04.59 | XenoX101 | I dare you all to |
| 14:05.06 | XenoX101 | search for "test" in the custom games section |
| 14:05.10 | XenoX101 | and note how much of a clusterfuck of names it is |
| 14:05.29 | XenoX101 | there should be a timer for custom maps |
| 14:05.31 | XenoX101 | before they expire |
| 14:05.37 | XenoX101 | especially with the name 'test' in them |
| 14:11.47 | Mexa | Ashamed, oh hi there. |
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| 14:46.09 | Daara | good morning nerds |
| 15:14.00 | Vailreth | right back atya |
| 15:15.48 | Daara | i suppose i should figure out how to rig models and transport their animations to other models |
| 15:41.18 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 15:41.22 | XenoX101 | why is "Set viper energy to 200" |
| 15:41.25 | XenoX101 | making my viper have 150 energy |
| 15:42.05 | Daara | max energy is set at 150 |
| 15:42.11 | XenoX101 | ???? |
| 15:42.13 | Daara | maybe? |
| 15:42.15 | XenoX101 | max energy is 200 |
| 15:42.38 | XenoX101 | thats how I noticed it |
| 15:42.41 | XenoX101 | 150/200 |
| 15:42.47 | XenoX101 | and it regenerates |
| 15:42.47 | Daara | couldn't tell ya then lol |
| 15:44.20 | XenoX101 | ok this is silly |
| 15:44.22 | XenoX101 | I just set it in data |
| 15:44.24 | XenoX101 | and its still 150 |
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| 15:49.40 | Vailreth | it may be a case of the game using a cached dependency file |
| 15:49.58 | Vailreth | you may have to manually clear that in the variables text |
| 15:50.39 | XenoX101 | wheres that |
| 15:51.34 | Vailreth | if you are on windows its in the the user documents starcraft 2 folder |
| 15:52.52 | XenoX101 | will it fuck my other map up |
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| 15:54.10 | Vailreth | it shouldnt, i only do it when one file is invading another, like if i make edits and instead of my edits another depednecy is used instead of the one im editing |
| 15:55.24 | XenoX101 | fuck |
| 15:55.29 | XenoX101 | I dont want to do this |
| 15:58.00 | Daara | round 4 with my footman models lol |
| 15:58.38 | Daara | adding stun, knockdown, cower, and strangulate anims |
| 15:58.53 | Daara | i have to do this with all though -_- |
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| 16:10.27 | Kueken | did you always need a damage effect for an action actor to work properly? o_0 |
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| 16:30.54 | XenoX101 | is there any way to make the data teleport ignore placement? |
| 16:31.26 | Ahli | range >= 500 |
| 16:31.29 | Caz | what does ignore placement mean XD ? |
| 16:31.36 | Ahli | ignore collisions |
| 16:31.38 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 16:31.48 | XenoX101 | its already at 500 |
| 16:31.56 | Ahli | try 501 if possible |
| 16:32.10 | XenoX101 | nope |
| 16:32.21 | Ahli | what is colliding? unit with unit? |
| 16:32.33 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 16:32.41 | XenoX101 | it won't get to the targeting point it'll go to what it can fit in |
| 16:33.09 | Ahli | you can still workaround that with applying a behavior to the units inside the target area to disable a few collisions for a short amount of time |
| 16:33.24 | XenoX101 | how |
| 16:33.26 | XenoX101 | what flags |
| 16:33.55 | Ahli | I need 4 minutes to look that up. I've used that in my map |
| 16:34.22 | XenoX101 | kk ty |
| 16:39.09 | CryptRat | What exactly is the limit on unit abilities? |
| 16:39.25 | CryptRat | I've seen claims of 32 abilities and I've seen claims of 32 buttons. |
| 16:40.15 | XenoX101 | test it |
| 16:40.22 | XenoX101 | copy>paste infinite abilities |
| 16:40.27 | XenoX101 | see where it stops |
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| 16:41.12 | CryptRat | Even doing that would be non-trivial since you'd have to verify that all those abilites showed up. |
| 16:42.29 | Kueken | then do it ;) |
| 16:42.47 | Kueken | afaik button limit was increased in some patch |
| 16:45.15 | Ahli | buff -> state flags -> suppress collision |
| 16:45.24 | Ahli | for 0.1 seconds is enough |
| 16:45.27 | XenoX101 | does that work? |
| 16:45.33 | Ahli | yes it does |
| 16:47.44 | Kueken | 500 placement range should work just as well, though |
| 16:48.49 | XenoX101 | placement range or range? |
| 16:49.03 | Kueken | not sure, but it doesn't matter usually |
| 16:49.23 | XenoX101 | because I have one as 500 |
| 16:49.25 | XenoX101 | the other as 10 |
| 16:49.27 | XenoX101 | placement range is 10 |
| 16:49.30 | Kueken | since the real range is usually set by external objects anyway |
| 16:49.46 | Kueken | set it to 500 and try again ) |
| 16:50.01 | XenoX101 | ah its placement range |
| 16:50.57 | Kueken | it will ignore any pathing btw |
| 16:51.00 | Kueken | not just units |
| 16:58.11 | XenoX101 | ic |
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| 17:46.02 | Mexa | Caz, it means that it doesn't check for placement validation before creating the unit |
| 17:46.12 | Mexa | eg, you can place two units at the exact same spot |
| 17:47.10 | Mexa | If you don't ignore placement, I recall it will create the second unit for instance, with an offset on the position. |
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| 18:09.35 | Ashamed | so i went and got my A+.... i can't believe how easy it was |
| 18:10.05 | Mexa | What, you're a student? |
| 18:10.19 | Ashamed | Mexa i didnt go to school |
| 18:10.23 | Ashamed | but yes i am the age of a student |
| 18:10.25 | Ashamed | i am 22 |
| 18:10.30 | Mexa | :O |
| 18:10.41 | Mexa | Aren't you also married, and have kids? |
| 18:10.48 | Ashamed | i have one child |
| 18:10.55 | Ashamed | and i just had him |
| 18:10.59 | Ashamed | he is only 9 months |
| 18:11.15 | Mexa | Still very early. |
| 18:11.16 | Ashamed | me and my Wife have been together since Highschool |
| 18:11.19 | Ashamed | Yes ;) |
| 18:11.24 | Mexa | I thought you were like Jademus or something |
| 18:11.35 | Mexa | *the age |
| 18:11.40 | Ashamed | nope i am a youngy |
| 18:11.52 | Ashamed | I am happy i didnt go to school though |
| 18:12.12 | Ashamed | IT field is really easy to just show someone you know what you are talking about |
| 18:12.18 | Mexa | Were both of you dropouts? |
| 18:12.24 | Ashamed | dropouts >< |
| 18:12.28 | Ashamed | i went to highschool |
| 18:13.15 | Ashamed | but i did drop out my senior year >< |
| 18:13.18 | Ashamed | becuase i had to work |
| 18:14.03 | Ashamed | i was very poor and had to move out when i was still in highschool |
| 18:14.29 | Ashamed | so i just got my GED and went into the IT field ha |
| 18:14.29 | Mexa | Why did you have to move out? |
| 18:14.39 | Ashamed | My parents sucked :*( |
| 18:14.57 | Mexa | Hmh |
| 18:14.59 | Ashamed | I was adopted and the family that adopted me also adopted like 10 other fucking kids |
| 18:15.24 | Ashamed | and they just were in money hole and i was tired of being dragged down with them |
| 18:15.37 | Mexa | I see |
| 18:15.52 | Ashamed | I have not spoken to them since.... |
| 18:16.02 | Ashamed | they didnt even try to reach out to me when i had my baby |
| 18:16.05 | Ashamed | so w/e |
| 18:16.20 | Ashamed | but yah the A+ was sooo oeasy |
| 18:16.27 | Ashamed | the guy even gave me another job lol |
| 18:16.35 | Ashamed | he was like you want to make extra money |
| 18:17.07 | Mexa | The A+ only took you about 2 extra years or so, timewise. |
| 18:17.09 | Mexa | or 4 |
| 18:17.11 | Ashamed | i finished both test put together in under an hour.. Both test have like 120+ minutes |
| 18:17.32 | Ashamed | well IBM didnt give a shit |
| 18:17.35 | Ashamed | so thats why i didnt get it before |
| 18:17.41 | Ashamed | but my new company paid for me to go |
| 18:18.32 | Ashamed | my study guild was really good... There were some questions i took that was 100% identical to the test |
| 18:18.43 | Ashamed | even the same placement of the correct answer (a-b) |
| 18:19.05 | Ashamed | It made me laugh ha |
| 18:19.19 | Mexa | Oh well you know, it's not very uncommon I think. |
| 18:19.34 | Ashamed | to copy the test? |
| 18:19.44 | Ashamed | or just the A+? |
| 18:19.47 | Mexa | When we study for our exams, the only thing of importance is to pretty much know the ex-exams |
| 18:21.15 | Mexa | I was referring to the exams just being a similar or sometimes almost direct the same as older ones. |
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| 18:21.47 | Ashamed_ | .... fricken IRC |
| 18:21.51 | Mexa | [19:19] <Mexa> When we study for our exams, the only thing of importance is to pretty much know the ex-exams |
| 18:21.52 | Mexa | [19:21] <Mexa> I was referring to the exams just being a similar or sometimes almost direct the same as older ones. |
| 18:22.19 | Ashamed_ | oh |
| 18:22.32 | Ashamed_ | yeah the new one actually has 7 on it though! |
| 18:22.48 | Mexa | 7 what? |
| 18:22.59 | Ashamed_ | windows 7* |
| 18:23.12 | Mexa | ?_? okay |
| 18:23.25 | Ashamed_ | the test i was doing only went to vista |
| 18:23.48 | Mexa | oh.. it was a test about operating systems? |
| 18:24.05 | Ashamed_ | no just that... |
| 18:24.10 | Ashamed_ | A+ = basic tech cert |
| 18:24.18 | Ashamed_ | it means you know a littlebit of everything |
| 18:24.51 | Ashamed_ | questions like where is the user folder located on windows 7 |
| 18:24.55 | Mexa | I thought A+ was an indication of that you scored extremely well on the exam. |
| 18:25.03 | Ashamed_ | oh lol :) |
| 18:25.10 | Ashamed_ | i passed my A+ Certifcation Exam |
| 18:25.17 | Ashamed_ | You guys have it too i am pretty sure of it |
| 18:25.25 | Mexa | Never heard of it |
| 18:25.26 | Ashamed_ | i got an A on it too :) |
| 18:25.26 | Mexa | xD |
| 18:25.34 | Ashamed_ | Comptia A+ |
| 18:25.34 | Ashamed_ | Comptia netowrk + |
| 18:25.39 | Ashamed_ | ??? never hear of these |
| 18:25.57 | Mexa | in cs? |
| 18:25.57 | Ashamed_ | It seemed like you knew what you were talking about because you were talking about school |
| 18:26.05 | Ashamed_ | you get the certifcates to TEST out of school |
| 18:26.17 | Ashamed_ | so you can prove to an employeer that you dont need a degree because you just know it |
| 18:26.26 | Mexa | well, oh |
| 18:26.51 | Ashamed_ | http://www.comptia.org/home.aspx |
| 18:27.12 | Mexa | something like the swedish scholastic aptitude test? |
| 18:27.22 | Ashamed_ | no that would be like our GED |
| 18:27.26 | Ashamed_ | this is for college |
| 18:27.36 | Mexa | We don't have college here |
| 18:27.57 | Ashamed_ | oh well in America after highscool you either go to college or start working |
| 18:28.19 | Ashamed_ | i have a certificate that says i didnt need to go to college because i already know the answers |
| 18:28.41 | Mexa | yeah |
| 18:28.43 | Ashamed_ | but just for the (IT) field |
| 18:29.02 | Mexa | we have highschool, and then we have university college or just university |
| 18:29.07 | Mexa | the difference is very minor. |
| 18:29.24 | Ashamed_ | but it helps becuase i will most likly get a degree in computers... but i wont have to take the basic classes |
| 18:29.29 | Ashamed_ | since i already tested out of them |
| 18:30.18 | Ashamed_ | Yeah I bet school in your country is much better >< |
| 18:30.36 | Mexa | It's nice |
| 18:30.48 | Ashamed_ | its sad because some how in our contry they have sold school to EVERYONE and now stupid people go to school and get degrees |
| 18:30.51 | Ashamed_ | and you are like wtf |
| 18:31.13 | Ashamed_ | so i will just test out and not waste my time with the stupids |
| 18:31.58 | Mexa | .. well that's an interesting point of view, I guess. |
| 18:39.06 | Mexa | There's less stupids on university level though. |
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| 18:40.25 | soulcarver | cant tint an actor off the creation event |
| 18:40.35 | soulcarver | any ideas why it wouldnt be working? |
| 18:41.40 | Kueken | model doesn't support tint probably |
| 18:42.50 | soulcarver | the "create" event wasnt working but the |
| 18:43.01 | soulcarver | "actor creation" event does work |
| 18:46.39 | Kueken | ah |
| 18:46.44 | Kueken | thought you mean that |
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| 18:54.11 | Mexa | :O |
| 18:54.47 | Kueken | someone needs attention? ;) |
| 18:54.53 | Mexa | There was an easter egg on the account management for d3 |
| 18:54.56 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDzpOBu2x_8 |
| 18:55.36 | Kueken | yep |
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| 19:04.36 | Ashamed_ | mexa good easter egg >< |
| 19:05.35 | Mexa | One don't see that coming at all, |
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| 19:22.58 | soulcarver | trying to make a trigger respond to a behavior on one unit hitting another but I cant seem to find the Event that lets me reference the units involved any ideas? |
| 19:23.32 | Daara | isn't there a unit takes damage event? |
| 19:25.52 | soulcarver | there is |
| 19:26.00 | soulcarver | but the effect doesnt 0 dmg |
| 19:26.20 | soulcarver | and im not finding the condition that specifies the effect/source of dmg |
| 19:26.39 | Daara | you could have the effect apply a dummy behavior maybe? |
| 19:27.12 | soulcarver | ok found the condition |
| 19:27.25 | soulcarver | but I really dont like triggering off of the "any unit damaged" event |
| 19:27.38 | soulcarver | since it fires a lot more then needed |
| 19:27.57 | Daara | yea but not if you make it so the condition requires a specific unit |
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| 19:30.58 | Mexa | ... asscomputer crashed |
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| 19:41.19 | Caz | Oh fun.. wallet is lost with license and social security card. |
| 19:41.25 | Caz | Wonder what im suppose to do :| |
| 19:41.57 | soulcarver | find it |
| 19:41.58 | soulcarver | ? |
| 19:42.04 | soulcarver | not lose it in the first place |
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| 19:53.34 | Daara | so |
| 19:53.42 | Daara | I created a delay effect for a missile |
| 19:53.52 | Daara | and now the missile won't fire -_- |
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| 19:56.22 | Ashamed_ | well you could say you delayed it Daara |
| 19:56.30 | Ashamed_ | DELAYED IT FOREVER |
| 19:57.11 | Daara | lol |
| 19:57.29 | Daara | 1.75 shouldn't delay it that long :P |
| 19:57.53 | Daara | the actor isn't being created and i just don't understand why it's not |
| 19:58.28 | Daara | actually hold on! |
| 19:58.33 | Daara | might have found a way to fix it |
| 19:59.06 | Daara | mmm nop |
| 19:59.07 | Daara | wtf |
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| 20:00.38 | Daara | Instead of having the weapons effect by the Launch Missile I changed it to the Delay Missile effect. |
| 20:01.03 | Daara | The delay missile effect has a 1.75 sec delay and the an initial effect being the Launch Missile |
| 20:01.20 | Daara | So after 1.75 sec it should Launch the missile... |
| 20:05.46 | Ashamed_ | :( |
| 20:05.48 | Ashamed_ | sorry daara i am the wrong guy to ask |
| 20:05.53 | soulcarver | luanch effects are a toughy in my book as well |
| 20:06.13 | soulcarver | I might be able to help you daara |
| 20:06.21 | soulcarver | pm what your trying to do in more detail |
| 20:06.33 | soulcarver | ive used luanch effects in several occasions now |
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| 20:10.10 | caz | soulcarver, when u give advice. Try to be less of a useless asshole. Thanks. |
| 20:10.24 | soulcarver | whats up caz? |
| 20:10.31 | soulcarver | how was I an asshole? |
| 20:10.39 | caz | "dont lose it in the first place" isnt funny |
| 20:10.56 | caz | those 2 pieces of id are retardedly important and gone. |
| 20:11.17 | soulcarver | yeah.... and not losing it in the first place isnt good advice? |
| 20:11.19 | Daara | that's why he told you not to lose them in the first place |
| 20:11.25 | soulcarver | what else do you expect us to tell you? |
| 20:11.27 | Daara | that's the best advice you can give someone |
| 20:11.36 | caz | its already gone.. that makes his words nothing better than a troll. |
| 20:11.43 | soulcarver | hardly |
| 20:11.50 | Mexa | It wasn't like that was any constructive advice whatsoever, souldcarver |
| 20:11.56 | Mexa | *-d |
| 20:11.57 | soulcarver | it makes you an idiot for being on here and saying anything about it rather then looking for it |
| 20:12.12 | caz | ive been everywhere.. and called everywhere, im at a loss until tomorrow |
| 20:12.29 | soulcarver | when was the last time you had it? |
| 20:12.49 | Daara | I usually find stuff in dirty clothes. |
| 20:13.21 | caz | Checked them all. And coats and drawers and coushions and car lol.. called resteraunts.. anyway sorry i said anything. |
| 20:13.42 | Mexa | I remember when I lost my keys... they were on the synth right next to me. Those times... |
| 20:13.43 | soulcarver | well first thing you should do |
| 20:13.56 | soulcarver | is call your cc comp and tell them to put a hold on your card or what ever they do |
| 20:14.07 | soulcarver | it may have been stolen if you were out an about |
| 20:14.16 | soulcarver | ss card is rather meaningless |
| 20:14.26 | soulcarver | so is your drivers liscense |
| 20:14.29 | soulcarver | just get new ones |
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| 20:41.01 | numbie | how do i get a static hero? |
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| 20:46.06 | Ousnius | hi |
| 20:46.11 | Caz-Nub | Hi |
| 20:46.42 | Caz-Nub | Is Nash|327 every active in here anymore? |
| 20:46.50 | Caz-Nub | ever* |
| 20:48.43 | Ousnius | I've got a missile which gets destroyed when it touches cliffs etc |
| 20:48.57 | Ousnius | but on it's way to that cliff it's height is raising cause it wants to go up that cliff |
| 20:49.06 | Ousnius | any way to let it stay on the ground? <.< |
| 20:49.19 | Ousnius | its* |
| 20:55.24 | soulcarver | hey ousnius i think you can adjust the z target |
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| 20:55.29 | soulcarver | or make it it doesnt fire |
| 20:55.35 | soulcarver | when theres a cliff level difference |
| 20:56.10 | Ousnius | ell no it's moving freely, fired by an ability |
| 20:56.20 | Ousnius | I want it to fire when there's a cliff too |
| 20:56.54 | Ousnius | but I don't want it to change its height when moving nearer to a cliff (on which it'd be destroyed) |
| 20:57.12 | Ousnius | it wants to fly up that cliff xD |
| 20:57.20 | Ousnius | in visual terms |
| 20:57.26 | soulcarver | try setting the z target of it? |
| 20:57.30 | soulcarver | of the effect? |
| 20:57.33 | soulcarver | not really sure man |
| 20:57.49 | Ousnius | yea that's fine, z offset is ok when there's no cliff :P |
| 20:57.59 | numbie | why cant i set heroes into my map? :| |
| 20:59.30 | Ousnius | i opened a thread maybe somebody has a clue |
| 20:59.46 | Ousnius | heroes are normal units |
| 21:00.05 | Ousnius | shouldn't be a difference |
| 21:00.24 | numbie | the thing is |
| 21:00.31 | numbie | there is no hero in my unit selection |
| 21:00.56 | Ousnius | maybe the editor isn't listing it as a hero |
| 21:01.06 | Ousnius | try letting it search for all unit types |
| 21:01.35 | numbie | they just arent there |
| 21:02.07 | Ousnius | restart editor? maybe they're "neutral" race? |
| 21:06.01 | numbie | doesnt do anything |
| 21:06.52 | Ousnius | hmm |
| 21:07.13 | Ousnius | uncheck the hero flag |
| 21:07.21 | Ousnius | and look if it appears |
| 21:07.34 | Vailreth | is it a dependencie order issue? |
| 21:07.58 | numbie | theres no heroes under all |
| 21:16.14 | numbie | ok ... im just to stupid for modding anyways |
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| 21:58.49 | Ashamed_ | http://gizmodo.com/5859081/why-is-china-building-these-gigantic-structures-in-the-middle-of-the-desert |
| 21:58.55 | Ashamed_ | interresting |
| 22:01.45 | Mexa | :V |
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| 22:13.35 | Mexa | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2757798/hmm.jpg any idea how I managed to bug the editor letting me draw completely in the botright corner? |
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| 22:16.51 | Xaragoth | hm? |
| 22:16.53 | Xaragoth | define |
| 22:17.34 | Mexa | ? |
| 22:21.28 | Xaragoth | you can always paint textures everywhere |
| 22:21.33 | Xaragoth | so ... uh? |
| 22:21.35 | Mexa | No |
| 22:21.53 | Mexa | Test yourself, paint at the bottom and the right sides |
| 22:22.09 | Mexa | And you'll see that you can't paint at the edges |
| 22:22.19 | Xaragoth | I can't be arsed to start up the SC2 editor :p |
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| 22:22.25 | Mexa | But apparantly, I managed to bug that somehow, and I can't reproduce it now |
| 22:22.40 | Mexa | Then I guess you'll have to take my word for it.. |
| 22:23.12 | Xaragoth | I've never had that problem, and I tend to do a lot of terrain |
| 22:23.16 | Mexa | To be clear: The bug is that you can draw at the very edges, of bot or right |
| 22:23.17 | Xaragoth | So, either Blizz broke shit with the patch |
| 22:23.22 | Xaragoth | or you fucked up some settings |
| 22:23.39 | Mexa | I think it has always been there, quite frankly |
| 22:25.26 | Mexa | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2757798/undrawable2.jpg |
| 22:25.39 | Mexa | Still don't want to try for yourself? |
| 22:25.50 | Xaragoth | already doing |
| 22:25.56 | Xaragoth | that is a recent screw up, in this case |
| 22:26.00 | Xaragoth | because if I check older maps |
| 22:26.04 | Xaragoth | there is no such problem |
| 22:26.13 | Mexa | Is that so, huh |
| 22:26.24 | Mexa | To be fair, it's not really a screwup |
| 22:26.49 | Mexa | Those parts of the terrain isn't going to be loaded in the map anyways. |
| 22:26.51 | Xaragoth | it's a screw up |
| 22:26.58 | Mexa | Nope |
| 22:27.04 | Xaragoth | yes, it is |
| 22:27.06 | Xaragoth | it's loaded |
| 22:27.13 | Xaragoth | and if you have no camera bounds |
| 22:27.15 | Xaragoth | you can see this |
| 22:27.43 | Mexa | Considering the texturemasks anever save the edges |
| 22:27.44 | Mexa | No |
| 22:27.48 | Mexa | It's not a screwupo |
| 22:28.03 | Mexa | Not by those terms |
| 22:28.17 | Mexa | I get what you mean that it otherwise should be counted as a screwup |
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| 22:30.22 | Mexa | Also, no, you don't see it ingame.. |
| 22:30.35 | Xaragoth | screenshot? |
| 22:30.56 | Mexa | Enlighten me whether I can turn the camera bounds down even further, but I seem to not be able to do so |
| 22:31.31 | Mexa | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2757798/Screenshot2011-11-14%2023_31_10.jpg |
| 22:32.26 | Mexa | Wanna know something funny? |
| 22:32.39 | Mexa | It reloads the editor |
| 22:32.43 | Mexa | when saving |
| 22:32.54 | Mexa | So it stretches those undrawable edges out |
| 22:33.50 | Mexa | That explains it |
| 22:34.31 | Xaragoth | I just multi-painted the edge |
| 22:34.35 | Xaragoth | at some point |
| 22:34.37 | Xaragoth | it took the dirt |
| 22:34.43 | Xaragoth | instead of the grass, which was the base |
| 22:35.04 | Mexa | at some point? |
| 22:35.08 | Xaragoth | this is pretty much the fault of someone adding a few changes to the editor and breaking shit, end of story |
| 22:35.09 | Xaragoth | ye |
| 22:35.13 | Xaragoth | at 20 layers of stuff |
| 22:35.14 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 22:35.22 | Xaragoth | just layer texture over texture |
| 22:35.23 | Mexa | there's certain conditions for this to appear. |
| 22:35.36 | Mexa | right border | bot border |
| 22:35.44 | Xaragoth | at some point, the edge will look like some kind of bad chessboard |
| 22:35.45 | Xaragoth | :d |
| 22:35.46 | Mexa | It's not really a bug |
| 22:35.59 | Xaragoth | it's not a game breaking one |
| 22:36.01 | Xaragoth | but it's a bug |
| 22:36.06 | Xaragoth | in every sense of the term for QA |
| 22:36.09 | Mexa | Depends how you see it |
| 22:36.21 | Mexa | It's acting both intentional and not |
| 22:36.29 | Xaragoth | such, it's a bug |
| 22:36.32 | Xaragoth | there is no "how you see it" |
| 22:36.37 | Mexa | Yes it is |
| 22:36.43 | Xaragoth | no, it isn't. |
| 22:36.49 | Mexa | You say it's a bug that you can't draw at the edges, right? |
| 22:37.03 | Xaragoth | Naturally |
| 22:37.07 | Mexa | ... that part isn't a bug |
| 22:37.21 | Xaragoth | so, please, enlighten me |
| 22:37.33 | Mexa | the map size is 256x256 in size, aight |
| 22:37.44 | Mexa | So it generates a heightmap of 257x257 in size |
| 22:38.14 | Mexa | if we take the hugest map, that is |
| 22:38.38 | Mexa | And now, the texturemap is 2048x2048 in size |
| 22:39.03 | Xaragoth | please, get to the point |
| 22:39.18 | Mexa | Covering that, it doesn't cover the last index of the heightmap |
| 22:39.19 | Xaragoth | Telling me obvious stuff is not going to make this any faster and get me back to skyrim :p |
| 22:39.39 | Agouti | xD |
| 22:40.46 | Mexa | In order for it to cover the entire heightmap, to the very last edge, it would have to be 2056x2056. |
| 22:41.03 | Mexa | Which it's not |
| 22:41.41 | Xaragoth | *sigh* and where in the name of god is it not a bug now? |
| 22:41.51 | Xaragoth | the intention of the editor is to display a 256x256 field |
| 22:41.56 | Xaragoth | not a 257x257 |
| 22:42.13 | Xaragoth | or rather 258x258, because you should always have 1 in each direction, not 0,5 |
| 22:42.16 | Mexa | the editor displays a 257x 257 field, ranged from 0 to 256 |
| 22:42.44 | soulcarver | what is your point? |
| 22:42.44 | soulcarver | yes but its not all viewable in game Mexa |
| 22:43.20 | Mexa | I was just saying how drawing at the edges is not a bug, in such way that even if you would be allowed to do so visually in the editor, it wouldn't be save anyways |
| 22:43.25 | Mexa | *saved |
| 22:43.46 | Xaragoth | the point of the whole thing is: someone, somewhere made the editor display the edge that is only intended as a technical edge, which screws with the users |
| 22:43.59 | Xaragoth | so, it is a bug, not a breaking one, but it's a interface bug on the editor |
| 22:44.04 | soulcarver | only dumb users use the built in edge.... |
| 22:44.39 | soulcarver | i dont see how this is relevant to anything... |
| 22:44.50 | Agouti | so, not knowing about something makes you dumb? |
| 22:44.51 | Xaragoth | so no matter how you turn and twist the whole thing and go all technical about it |
| 22:44.55 | Xaragoth | someone fucked up |
| 22:44.56 | Xaragoth | end of the line |
| 22:45.01 | Agouti | that's nice to know soulcarver |
| 22:45.11 | Mexa | Xaragoth, I buy that the dimension 256 x 256 is not accurate, as map size. |
| 22:45.22 | Xaragoth | Agouti: Soulcarver has a history of dumb bullshit, ignore him |
| 22:45.31 | Agouti | kk ^_^ |
| 22:45.40 | soulcarver | thanx Xara glad you appreciate |
| 22:45.48 | Mexa | What the mapsize if 256x256 is really referring to, is the amount of cells that covers the map |
| 22:45.57 | Mexa | not the coordinate system |
| 22:46.13 | Xaragoth | you are trying to tell a level designer basics, please stop *sigh* |
| 22:46.26 | Agouti | soulcarver what exactly have you done that is supossed to be appreciated? |
| 22:46.47 | Mexa | Excuse me princess, for being explaining based on the assumptions that you might not know. |
| 22:47.18 | Xaragoth | I told you about 10m ago that you can skip it |
| 22:47.48 | Agouti | I can edit all the way to the edge of the map? |
| 22:48.07 | Agouti | including the area by default not part of the viewable? |
| 22:48.09 | soulcarver | i can as well.... |
| 22:48.13 | Xaragoth | It's still something that would end up in the bug-tracker as a low priority fix |
| 22:48.30 | Mexa | As said, at bot and right edges, you can't do this |
| 22:48.52 | Mexa | It will however pretend that you did, if you reopen the map, or save it, allowing the terrain to refresh itself. |
| 22:49.38 | Mexa | Yeayea, Xara, I'll call it a bug too then. Lol. |
| 22:50.14 | Xaragoth | in this business, there is no elaborate terms outside of the programmers little cave |
| 22:50.18 | Agouti | you could write a quick script to mirror the map about the diagonal and then edit it |
| 22:50.21 | Xaragoth | it doesn't do what it should, such it's a bug |
| 22:50.23 | Xaragoth | end of the story :p |
| 22:51.10 | Mexa | true. |
| 22:51.44 | Xaragoth | no matter what the reasoning behind it showing up is, it'll still be handeled as a bug in the tracker, so it's no use arguing around why it's there |
| 22:52.06 | Xaragoth | it's going to confuse a lot of people who don't know two bits about the matter and that is where it has to be fixed |
| 22:52.16 | Agouti | there are so many unfixed bugs |
| 22:52.22 | Xaragoth | ye |
| 22:52.28 | Xaragoth | there is one very high on the list |
| 22:52.32 | Xaragoth | "Fire Chris Metzen" |
| 22:52.38 | Xaragoth | it's a blizzard related story bug |
| 22:52.38 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 22:52.40 | Agouti | you could of mirrored the map and edited it by now if you hadn't been so busy complaining ;) |
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| 22:52.56 | Mexa | Oh, I was just noticing it |
| 22:53.03 | Demo | Does anyone have a function that rearranges numbers in an array by descending or ascending order? |
| 22:53.19 | Demo | I can't seem to think of how to make it |
| 22:53.19 | soulcarver | Demo its pretty easy to do |
| 22:53.22 | soulcarver | but you have to custom make it |
| 22:53.27 | Xaragoth | rofl, I just looked at the new PC Gamer magazin cover |
| 22:53.28 | Xaragoth | http://www.diablofans.com/uploads/gallery/album_72/gallery_37842_72_37851.jpg |
| 22:53.29 | Mexa | I didn't really have a problem with it in the first place - was only asking if anyone else managed to reproduce the bug to be able to draw at the edges:P |
| 22:53.30 | soulcarver | since arrays arnt dynamic |
| 22:53.30 | Demo | I'm fine with custom making it |
| 22:53.33 | Xaragoth | This is NOT how the D3 Barbarian looks |
| 22:53.40 | soulcarver | message me |
| 22:53.44 | soulcarver | i can walk you throguh it |
| 22:53.47 | Xaragoth | D3 Barbarian has a female haircut on the male barbarian body :p |
| 22:54.28 | Mexa | You call those boobs manly? |
| 22:54.47 | Mexa | As well as the stomach? |
| 22:58.19 | Caz-Nub | is there a flag that lets units attack while maintaining current move order, such as the ladder style pheonix unit. |
| 23:01.30 | Xaragoth | Mexa: The D3 in-game barbarian |
| 23:01.38 | Xaragoth | the cover does not at all match the model |
| 23:01.41 | Xaragoth | the ingame model is ugly as fuck |
| 23:01.59 | Xaragoth | because it's the male model, a bit tuned down on arms/legs with female hair :p |
| 23:02.25 | Mexa | oh |
| 23:02.35 | Demo | That is pretty much what a female barbarian should look like, very primitive |
| 23:02.49 | Demo | I just got into the d3 beta today... |
| 23:02.52 | Demo | it took long enough |
| 23:03.01 | Mexa | kind of like female ogres, are they not? |
| 23:03.06 | Demo | and now I'm less intrigued. |
| 23:03.12 | Caz-Nub | Any of you know if I can allow units to shoot while continuing move orders ? |
| 23:03.33 | Demo | Of course you can |
| 23:03.44 | Caz-Nub | Would be epic if you told me how ;p |
| 23:03.50 | Demo | To do it on their own? or you do it? |
| 23:04.18 | Caz-Nub | For the time being its fine if they just auto attack anything in range while following a scripted move path |
| 23:04.23 | Caz-Nub | the move path is already set |
| 23:04.40 | Xaragoth | Demo: No, it shouldn't. It should look more like Norn in GW1, not like a walking bear |
| 23:04.50 | Demo | what unit is it, just for reference |
| 23:05.10 | Xaragoth | I mean, seriously, who wants to play a walking bear. |
| 23:05.10 | Caz-Nub | It will be applied across multiple units.. right now marines / tanks / roahces |
| 23:05.12 | Caz-Nub | roaches* |
| 23:06.01 | Demo | hmm, it seems to have moved on me... |
| 23:06.07 | Caz-Nub | :o |
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| 23:07.50 | Demo | I know there is a flag on abilities to use abilities while moving, I imagine that you would just add that to their weapon :/ |
| 23:08.21 | Demo | Hmm checking the diamondback |
| 23:08.37 | Caz-Nub | diamondback .-. ? |
| 23:08.56 | Demo | It has an upgrade in campaign to make it so it can shoot while moving |
| 23:09.36 | Caz-Nub | ohs |
| 23:10.38 | Mexa | The phoenix can move while shooting too |
| 23:10.45 | Demo | that it can |
| 23:10.55 | Caz-Nub | Mexa, that was in my original question ;p |
| 23:11.00 | Demo | I found the thing |
| 23:11.05 | Demo | but it isn't on the roaches weapon |
| 23:11.18 | Mexa | Oh my bad, didn't read all through |
| 23:12.03 | Caz-Nub | Demo, I was hoping it was just a flag to toggle on any weapon. Seems that's not so? |
| 23:12.05 | Demo | this makes literally no sense, it's just missing the values |
| 23:12.15 | Demo | it is just a flag :/ |
| 23:12.17 | Demo | that's the thing lol |
| 23:12.30 | Demo | in the data editor |
| 23:12.33 | Demo | go to the phoenix |
| 23:12.46 | Demo | go to his weapon |
| 23:13.03 | Demo | and it should show "Weapon Allowed Movement" - Moving |
| 23:13.13 | Demo | That isn't there for the roach.. |
| 23:13.16 | Demo | and it's the same weapon type |
| 23:15.08 | Caz-Nub | Demo:and it should show "Weapon Allowed Movement" - Moving ... under the unit's weapon data ? |
| 23:15.19 | Demo | yes |
| 23:15.27 | Demo | but it isn't there for units that don't already have it.. |
| 23:15.49 | Caz-Nub | what's a unit that does have it ? |
| 23:15.52 | Caz-Nub | the diamondback ? |
| 23:16.02 | Demo | phoenix is esaier |
| 23:16.27 | Demo | I may have found a way around it, but it takes some time. |
| 23:16.40 | Demo | I have no clue why it isn't showing otherwise |
| 23:17.45 | Caz-Nub | wtf ur right |
| 23:17.50 | Caz-Nub | its there for marine and phoenix |
| 23:17.52 | Caz-Nub | but not roach |
| 23:18.38 | Caz-Nub | oh wait |
| 23:18.41 | Caz-Nub | i think i see it for roach |
| 23:18.58 | Caz-Nub | I do |
| 23:19.03 | Demo | how? |
| 23:19.07 | Caz-Nub | Acid Salive, and Needle Spines -- right ? |
| 23:19.13 | Caz-Nub | saliva* |
| 23:19.21 | Demo | acid saliva yeah |
| 23:19.31 | Demo | the way I got it to show up was I selected a weapon that had it as well |
| 23:19.36 | Demo | selected both and it popped up |
| 23:19.57 | Caz-Nub | when i clicked each weapon individually |
| 23:20.01 | Caz-Nub | each have it as a field |
| 23:20.08 | Demo | except the roach |
| 23:20.12 | Caz-Nub | one sec |
| 23:20.39 | Caz-Nub | what's the source ur roach is from? |
| 23:20.43 | Caz-Nub | idk if that matters |
| 23:20.52 | Demo | sec, opening another map |
| 23:20.53 | soulcarver | what is your problem? |
| 23:20.56 | soulcarver | ok |
| 23:21.01 | soulcarver | attacking while moving? |
| 23:21.04 | Demo | the roach doesn't have the weapon allowed moving |
| 23:21.06 | Demo | but the others do |
| 23:21.25 | soulcarver | roaches dont have weapons.... well... they explode when they use it... |
| 23:21.30 | Demo | on my map, I found a way around it, but is it there for you caz? |
| 23:21.55 | Caz-Nub | Yea: Roach / LibertyMulti.SC2 / |
| 23:22.08 | Demo | Mine just must be campaign screwing with it |
| 23:22.09 | Caz-Nub | that roach is showing the field you found on both acid saliva and needle spines |
| 23:22.13 | Demo | don't worry about me, is that working for you? |
| 23:22.21 | Demo | Are you able to change it and it work? |
| 23:22.31 | Caz-Nub | i'll let you know when i get a chance to implement it. |
| 23:22.33 | Caz-Nub | Should be soon |
| 23:22.40 | Demo | Sounds good |
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| 23:25.00 | Stewox | jademussreg |
| 23:25.19 | Stewox | have you seen Galaxy Editor Enhancement |
| 23:25.22 | Stewox | GAx3 |
| 23:25.51 | Stewox | a dream come true :) |
| 23:27.34 | Stewox | that's what i always wanted |
| 23:27.38 | Stewox | to make custom libs |
| 23:27.48 | Stewox | custom triggers |
| 23:27.52 | Stewox | i hope we can add events ? |
| 23:27.59 | Stewox | i think not :p |
| 23:30.15 | Stewox | but i should be able to contact the guy and say if he can please make ALL UNITS IN REGION |
| 23:30.18 | Stewox | remember that |
| 23:30.30 | Stewox | blizzard only has "RANDOM UNIT IN REGION" and "ANY UNIT IN REGION" |
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| 23:38.08 | Caz-Nub | hm |
| 23:38.23 | Caz-Nub | a scan move causes them to stop and attack me.. but a normal move order.. they dont attack at all |
| 23:38.57 | Caz-Nub | Both the fields for the melee and the needle spines were changed to "Moving". |
| 23:39.33 | Caz-Nub | Demo: could i have forgotten something? |
| 23:39.56 | Demo | there should be flags in another thing nearby |
| 23:40.02 | Demo | sec |
| 23:40.37 | Demo | the object values under options+ |
| 23:40.40 | Demo | on the weapon |
| 23:41.01 | Demo | uncheck everything but can initiate attack and linked cooldown |
| 23:41.08 | Demo | and see if that works |
| 23:43.54 | Caz-Nub | hmm seemed to "help" but they are still being awkward... i think its a line of sight issue atm |
| 23:44.07 | Caz-Nub | gonna give them a 360 degree firing arc if i can remember where it is |
| 23:45.26 | Caz-Nub | lol |
| 23:45.29 | Caz-Nub | Ok this is funny |
| 23:45.45 | Caz-Nub | They not work appropriately with your flag changes and a 360 degree firing arc, HOWEVER |
| 23:45.53 | Caz-Nub | when a roach strikes me |
| 23:46.03 | Caz-Nub | it generates push and the acid throws me backwards |
| 23:46.04 | Caz-Nub | lol |
| 23:46.26 | Caz-Nub | wtf lolz |
| 23:48.57 | Caz-Nub | Demo: roaches are pulling some shinanigans |
| 23:49.03 | Demo | lol |
| 23:49.16 | Demo | that is... strange |
| 23:49.35 | Demo | I honestly haven't a clue from this point, I haven't used weapons for this lately |
| 23:49.44 | Demo | and I feel like I would just continue to mislead you |
| 23:49.52 | Demo | away from a real answer :/ |
| 23:50.25 | Caz-Nub | well we got the weapon working, just dont understand the push generated from the acid |
| 23:50.40 | Caz-Nub | never seen a roach do that |
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