| 00:09.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster egod (b8919e02@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.145.158.2) |
| 00:10.26 | egod | hey sup, im looking for 6xZelda tester on NA (US) |
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| 00:28.12 | b2zeldafreak | zelda tester? |
| 00:29.55 | b2zeldafreak | egod |
| 00:30.02 | b2zeldafreak | do you need testers for a zelda map? |
| 00:30.19 | egod | i need |
| 00:30.24 | egod | like 6 |
| 00:30.53 | b2zeldafreak | whats your name and friend code? |
| 00:31.12 | b2zeldafreak | what type of map is it also? |
| 00:31.48 | egod | will give all those info when will found more than 1 tester, i put you on my list |
| 00:32.02 | b2zeldafreak | ok |
| 00:32.13 | b2zeldafreak | you can also message me on the forums if i have to get off tonight |
| 00:32.55 | b2zeldafreak | brb |
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| 00:36.07 | Vailreth | one thing i will be adding to my micro campaigns and altered melee are dark templar upgrades |
| 00:36.22 | Kueken | .P |
| 00:36.30 | Vailreth | or removing the dark shrine not sure yet |
| 00:37.44 | Vailreth | aside form allowing dark templar the dark shrine is so useless you dont even have to keep it powered |
| 00:40.00 | Kueken | make them catch zerglings :D |
| 00:40.01 | Kueken | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHc5EyPIXpE |
| 00:42.27 | Vailreth | interesting |
| 00:47.25 | egod | hey sup, im looking for 6xZelda tester on NA (US) |
| 00:54.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster b2zeldafreak (~b2zeldafr@208.102.122.128) |
| 00:57.09 | egod | im online |
| 00:57.13 | egod | for zelda test |
| 00:57.15 | egod | go channel sc2mapster |
| 00:58.56 | b2zeldafreak | the office comes on in 2 minutes |
| 00:59.11 | b2zeldafreak | :( |
| 01:00.01 | A1win | how can I get a (range) actor to shop up when a specific building is being placed by a build ability? |
| 01:06.09 | A1win | in build auto turret the actor event checks the build ability, but that only works if there's only one building in the ability |
| 01:08.12 | A1win | is that even possible... |
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| 01:13.01 | Stewox | back.. |
| 01:17.42 | Stewox | kueken |
| 01:17.58 | Stewox | should i add the behavior to the unit's base or to the weapon ? |
| 01:18.12 | Stewox | i think the unit should be |
| 01:18.22 | Kueken | I think so too |
| 01:18.24 | Stewox | since you added the marker weapon inside the weapon ofcourse |
| 01:18.57 | Stewox | yeah it was not apparent firstly i thought how was the market there but it was not visible in the right side ... but all fine now |
| 01:19.47 | Kueken | so everything works up to your expectations now? |
| 01:20.39 | Kueken | A1win: you might be able to use a custom placement actor, which has an attached range actor |
| 01:21.50 | Stewox | didn't test yet , busy with other stuff |
| 01:21.55 | Vailreth | i do not need Voxatron |
| 01:21.58 | Vailreth | i do not need Voxatron |
| 01:23.19 | Stewox | i do like these green lasers to indicate target linking |
| 01:23.34 | Stewox | but is is somehow possible to recreate what you saw in video ? |
| 01:24.10 | Kueken | the green stutter-line? |
| 01:24.12 | Stewox | it hard a kind of up arc at an 20* angle |
| 01:24.31 | Kueken | well, unfortunately, we cannot arc beams |
| 01:24.31 | Stewox | yeah in the video about this assisted targeting you saw |
| 01:24.49 | Stewox | it wasn't continiout , it was like some windows progress bar |
| 01:25.00 | Stewox | continious* |
| 01:25.11 | Stewox | ahhhhh |
| 01:25.15 | Stewox | cannot arc |
| 01:25.25 | Stewox | then there's no other way ? |
| 01:25.43 | Stewox | not important but just as a bonus i ask |
| 01:25.43 | Kueken | that only means, it is not possible with one beam |
| 01:25.50 | Kueken | maybe there are workarounds |
| 01:26.21 | Stewox | but hey an upward arc isn't that noticable to begin with |
| 01:26.36 | Stewox | how about to make it non-continious |
| 01:26.44 | Stewox | i forgot proper english word for that |
| 01:27.09 | Kueken | you could try to connect a dozen of beams |
| 01:27.18 | Kueken | but that would be terribly complicated |
| 01:27.37 | Kueken | you would need tons of data objects |
| 01:27.58 | Kueken | you could try a stream of models following the missile |
| 01:28.05 | Stewox | hehe yea that kind of passed my mind |
| 01:28.32 | Stewox | nah it's not that terribly important to be a complete copy |
| 01:28.48 | Kueken | well... I say without a model specifically made for it, it will be quite impossible to do exactly like in the video |
| 01:29.40 | Kueken | if you have some model maker who can do that, he could make you a curved beam model |
| 01:30.14 | Kueken | one of the ingame beam models is curved by itself, so it is possible with specifically set up model files |
| 01:30.28 | Kueken | you just cannot take any beam model and curve it, unfortunately |
| 01:30.58 | Kueken | btw |
| 01:31.12 | Kueken | thats a very neat mechanic for a defense structure |
| 01:31.16 | Kueken | I like the idea |
| 01:31.34 | Kueken | ...whoever came up with it :D |
| 01:31.50 | Stewox | heh tnx |
| 01:32.07 | Kueken | which game was it from again? |
| 01:32.09 | Stewox | terrible terrible damage |
| 01:32.12 | Stewox | :D |
| 01:32.21 | Kueken | c&c something? |
| 01:34.00 | Stewox | Company 1Electronic Arts Pacific - Command & Conquer Generals |
| 01:34.03 | Stewox | Executive In Charge of ProductionMark Skaggs |
| 01:34.04 | Stewox | ProducerHarvard Bonin |
| 01:34.05 | Stewox | Lead DesignerDustin Browder <------- (... "whoever came up with it") |
| 01:34.08 | Stewox | Technical DirectorJeff Brown |
| 01:34.09 | Stewox | Art DirectorRichard Kriegler |
| 01:34.11 | Stewox | Art ProducerFrank Hsu |
| 01:34.13 | Stewox | Senior ProducerMike Verdu |
| 01:34.31 | Kueken | c&c generals |
| 01:34.33 | Kueken | strange |
| 01:34.36 | Kueken | I played that |
| 01:34.39 | Stewox | epic moment |
| 01:34.48 | Kueken | and cannot seem to remember this mechanic |
| 01:35.08 | Kueken | heh ;) |
| 01:35.19 | Kueken | Blizzard had the same thoughts |
| 01:35.28 | Stewox | Lead designer :D ..... you blind , it's .... the one and only Dustin Browder |
| 01:35.37 | Kueken | "nice idea, get whoever came up with it!" |
| 01:35.47 | Stewox | epic moment |
| 01:35.50 | Stewox | epic |
| 01:36.54 | Stewox | when you asked "whoever came up with it" .... well i just bursted into a huge happines |
| 01:37.12 | Stewox | i knew Dusin's past games all along |
| 01:37.28 | Stewox | he basically designed Red Alert 2 and C&C generals , both very popular C&C |
| 01:37.47 | Stewox | C&C General Zero hour is still going today with it's very vibrand modding scene |
| 01:38.05 | Stewox | C&C generals is basically one of the hall-of fame on moddb.com |
| 01:38.25 | Stewox | i modded both games before i came to SC2 |
| 01:38.45 | Stewox | what an epic moment this is |
| 01:38.59 | Kueken | o_0 |
| 01:39.26 | Stewox | when you asked |
| 01:39.29 | Kueken | well, nice coincidence, I admit, but my enthusiasm is a little more limited :D |
| 01:39.44 | Stewox | well mine is quite enthusiastic |
| 01:39.48 | Stewox | it's a really funny thing |
| 01:40.02 | Stewox | you ask in such disbelief and surprise |
| 01:40.19 | Stewox | and then .. the answer is the lead designer on SC2 ,,, epic moment |
| 01:40.22 | Kueken | but apparently Dustin creates games I enjoy thoroughly |
| 01:40.24 | Stewox | atleast for me |
| 01:40.31 | Kueken | I played red alert 2 for years |
| 01:41.07 | Kueken | and I could play the SC2 campaign again any time ;) |
| 01:41.51 | Stewox | i played SC2 campaign for like ... 5 times now |
| 01:42.03 | Kueken | oh and battle for middle earth too |
| 01:42.06 | Stewox | everything on brutal |
| 01:42.10 | Kueken | liked that one as well :D |
| 01:42.35 | Stewox | yeah i know it was quite loud on the RTS newsfeeds |
| 01:42.52 | Stewox | but eventually C&C stumbled because EA was stupid and didn't patch the game |
| 01:42.56 | Stewox | oh |
| 01:43.22 | Stewox | the idea we're speaking is actually a permanent ability of the Patriot Missile Battery of the USA in GENZH |
| 01:43.33 | Stewox | i just didn't want to tell it before :p |
| 01:43.41 | Stewox | it would make things weird imo |
| 01:44.18 | Kueken | well |
| 01:44.18 | A1win | any shorter word than "underpowered" for "this power grid isn't generating enough power" ? |
| 01:44.20 | Stewox | whoever came up with it |
| 01:44.28 | Stewox | dustin knock on your door :D |
| 01:44.31 | Stewox | epic moment |
| 01:44.33 | Stewox | epic! |
| 01:44.50 | Kueken | ;) |
| 01:45.03 | Kueken | you will get a heart attack, if you continue :D |
| 01:45.10 | Stewox | haha |
| 01:45.15 | Stewox | im perfectly stable over here |
| 01:45.24 | Stewox | im not 15 old :P |
| 01:45.43 | Kueken | heart attack with 15 would be a little... premature anyways xD |
| 01:46.01 | Kueken | hm |
| 01:46.05 | Kueken | unpowered? |
| 01:46.08 | Stewox | i know i didn't meant in the literall way i mean in the "can't control my self" way |
| 01:46.09 | Kueken | low on power? |
| 01:46.52 | Stewox | but im just ... wel it's been so interesting that you in the end of it asked about it --- kind of makes me proud i attempted this idea :D |
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| 01:47.03 | Kueken | :) |
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| 01:50.00 | Mexa_ | So... yet again Blizzard fails at naming functions and parameters |
| 01:50.19 | Mexa_ | void ShowHideUnit(bool showHide...) |
| 01:50.20 | Mexa_ | ? |
| 01:50.28 | Mexa_ | That tells me absolutely nothing |
| 01:50.29 | Stewox | that's probably some noob developer |
| 01:50.38 | Kueken | xD |
| 01:50.40 | Stewox | blizzard got a lot of those |
| 01:50.43 | Mexa_ | All Show and Hide functions look liike that |
| 01:50.46 | Kueken | true = show is my guess |
| 01:50.56 | Mexa_ | Except one, which is ShowHide and then show as parameter |
| 01:51.07 | Stewox | blzzard has good lead seniors |
| 01:51.14 | Mexa_ | And what about UIHideFrames(bool showHide)? |
| 01:51.15 | Kueken | so there is a hide unit function afterall |
| 01:51.22 | Stewox | but most of the workforce is young and kind of ... without past experiences |
| 01:51.29 | Kueken | well |
| 01:51.50 | Kueken | try&cry |
| 01:51.54 | Kueken | I guess |
| 01:52.14 | Mexa_ | Yeah well, since I don't see any logic in some of them, there's a 50/50 chance, so |
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| 01:52.52 | egod | LOoking for THe Legend of Zelda: A Link to the past Tester, need 6x, on US NA, channel sc2mapster |
| 01:53.45 | Mexa_ | Having troubles finding testers huh? |
| 01:54.56 | JademusSreg | What would one do in a multiplayer Zelda game? |
| 01:54.56 | Stewox | Kueken |
| 01:55.00 | Stewox | tested it |
| 01:55.12 | b2zeldafreak | what kind of game is it egod? |
| 01:55.13 | MindWorX | JademusSreg, Try Zelda: A link to the past |
| 01:55.17 | MindWorX | It was awesome in multiplayer |
| 01:55.33 | MindWorX | Me and a few friends hooked up some GBA emulators in multiplayer |
| 01:55.35 | MindWorX | Fun times. |
| 01:55.36 | Stewox | works contextually better since it doesn't do linking when the unit is inside the normal range |
| 01:55.39 | JademusSreg | I played LttP on SNES; what multiplayer?! |
| 01:55.41 | Stewox | exactly |
| 01:55.53 | Stewox | what's next on the list |
| 01:56.07 | Stewox | you said you missed something from your "fast dev time" |
| 01:56.09 | MindWorX | Maybe the multiplayer stuff is only on the GBA version :) |
| 01:56.32 | MindWorX | But it was co-op, like throwing eachother over chasms, working together to lift or move large rocks |
| 01:56.58 | Kueken | I didnt copy the turret, weapon and stuff, I just modified the default ones |
| 01:57.01 | MindWorX | One guy may need a sword to cut obstacles, while the other needs a boomerang to activate buttons and such. |
| 01:57.06 | MindWorX | It's pretty fun |
| 01:57.16 | JademusSreg | Seems like the sort of thing that would break the original gameplay. |
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| 01:57.47 | MindWorX | Oh, it definitely doesn't feel like a Zelda game, but it's still lots of fun. |
| 01:58.03 | Mexa_ | Mindy, you're thinking about The Legend of Zelda Four Swords Adventures |
| 01:58.08 | MindWorX | Yah |
| 01:58.19 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 01:59.37 | Stewox | also |
| 01:59.59 | Stewox | found a mehanical flaw with the listener radius kueken |
| 02:00.14 | Stewox | how does it work currently ... with this marker idea |
| 02:00.37 | Kueken | ? |
| 02:00.49 | Stewox | look this video .... |
| 02:01.52 | Frostwind | anyone wanna start a SC2 project with me? |
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| 02:02.37 | b2zeldafreak | hey guys i just posted a thread about my Werewolf:Agria project. if you could check it out and give your feedback i'd appreciate it. it's in the Map Feedback forum on SC2mapster |
| 02:02.50 | JademusSreg | Link? |
| 02:03.34 | Frostwind | JademusSreg: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/player-zone/map-feedback/27845-werewolf-agria/?unread |
| 02:04.04 | b2zeldafreak | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/player-zone/map-feedback/27845-werewolf-agria/#p1 |
| 02:05.58 | JademusSreg | I think a prototype would be more informative than paragraphs of flavor text. |
| 02:06.29 | A1win | what unit should I use for the amount of power generation and consumption? now I just have "Power consumption: x units" |
| 02:06.45 | A1win | or should I just keep that D: |
| 02:06.50 | Frostwind | I guess no one then :( |
| 02:07.27 | A1win | Frostwind, you need to make yourself look like you actually have something to provide for a project |
| 02:08.40 | Frostwind | I either want to make a rpg or arena game |
| 02:08.56 | Stewox | kueken |
| 02:09.00 | Stewox | how do i send files ? |
| 02:09.44 | Kueken | depends on your client |
| 02:09.51 | b2zeldafreak | JademusSreg: Really only that first paragraph was flavor text. But I updated it with a note to skip it for details. I'll be working on a prototype soon, I just thought it would be nice to start getting some ideas to use while i work on it. |
| 02:10.48 | Stewox | chatzilla |
| 02:12.06 | A1win | bah I really wish there was a way to change the anchor of a dialog's tooltip... some of these appear in silly places |
| 02:12.11 | Kueken | well, no idea, drag&drop on receiver? |
| 02:12.25 | Kueken | try/search yourself |
| 02:12.31 | Kueken | otherwise upload somewhere |
| 02:12.44 | JademusSreg | I'm curious whether you mean Werewolf in the sense of the social game, which would put it in a position to compete with maps like Mafia, or if it's more like the majority of werewolf/thing/vampire/parasite maps? |
| 02:12.58 | Frostwind | hmm. thats how |
| 02:13.02 | A1win | any idea how to validate that an SCV is not building a structure? |
| 02:13.22 | Frostwind | Stewox: right click on the person and go to User Commands |
| 02:13.27 | Frostwind | then Send file |
| 02:13.55 | Stewox | ook got it |
| 02:14.15 | Kueken | you want to send me 75 MB? |
| 02:14.16 | Stewox | it's /dcc-send nickname ... and browse window opens up |
| 02:14.30 | Stewox | so what ? |
| 02:14.42 | Stewox | it's 1080p |
| 02:14.42 | b2zeldafreak | The Werewolf/Vampire/parasite maps. In Warcraft 3 there is a popular map called Werewolf Transylvania. At one point it was the 5th most played map on Battle.net. Not sure about now since mapgnome is gone. |
| 02:14.53 | Stewox | from andiroid |
| 02:14.56 | Kueken | you have some decent upload? |
| 02:15.01 | Stewox | yep |
| 02:15.45 | Stewox | how fast it is ? |
| 02:16.08 | egod | LOoking for THe Legend of Zelda: A Link to the past Tester, need 6x, on US NA, channel sc2mapster |
| 02:16.10 | Stewox | i cant' see from here |
| 02:16.14 | Stewox | but i got 1 MBIt up |
| 02:16.19 | JademusSreg | Hm. Good luck; there's a fair amount of competition in that genre, b2. |
| 02:16.30 | b2zeldafreak | Really? I haven't seen much yet |
| 02:16.38 | JademusSreg | What would make your map stand out? |
| 02:17.03 | b2zeldafreak | Polish, and simple complexity mostly |
| 02:17.34 | JademusSreg | What's the most polished map you've seen in SC2? =D |
| 02:17.45 | Stewox | aborted ? |
| 02:18.04 | Stewox | ok i'll tell you |
| 02:18.05 | b2zeldafreak | I haven't seen many true customs yet |
| 02:18.15 | Stewox | currently the status is this: |
| 02:18.28 | JademusSreg | Strange qualification on that word. =D |
| 02:18.32 | b2zeldafreak | Marine arena seems to be pretty good in that area, but it's fairly basic as far as polishing goes |
| 02:18.54 | Stewox | the radius of the affected ally turrets is non existent , all turrets just fire if their second weapon is in range |
| 02:18.59 | Frostwind | is sooooo bored |
| 02:19.11 | Stewox | and also |
| 02:19.19 | Daara | man |
| 02:19.30 | b2zeldafreak | Simple complexity: It should be easy to join up the game and start playing and progressing, but it should take time to master the skills and strategies to be the best. |
| 02:19.37 | Daara | i should have thought about using the stealth walk/stand as the "Defend" for footman. |
| 02:19.55 | Stewox | the radius check is not there |
| 02:20.40 | Stewox | radius of the allowed targeting listeners = normal range of turret that first saw the enemy target |
| 02:20.47 | Stewox | should this be possible |
| 02:20.48 | JademusSreg | Complexity is an emergent property from the interaction of relatively simple systems, yes, I appreciate the value of complexity emerging from simple gameplay mechanics. |
| 02:21.02 | JademusSreg | But I wouldn't describe marine arena as polished. =D |
| 02:21.02 | Daara | Werewolf was fun. |
| 02:21.24 | Daara | Dark Deeds was fun too. |
| 02:21.33 | Daara | Dota just made it hard to make those games. |
| 02:21.47 | b2zeldafreak | Jesse_James, the guy who makes the Warcraft 3 version is amazing at making maps with simple and fun mechanics that have tons of strategy later on |
| 02:22.29 | JademusSreg | Do you play many custom maps, b2? I could suggest a few worth examining for polish and others for emergent complexity. |
| 02:22.40 | b2zeldafreak | Yeah I'd appreciate suggestions |
| 02:22.47 | Kueken | so only units within the normal range of the shoting turret should be able to shoot the target? |
| 02:22.47 | b2zeldafreak | I've been having trouble getting into them with SC2 |
| 02:23.13 | b2zeldafreak | most of them seem to be different versions of melee |
| 02:23.18 | Kueken | this would require the more complicated approach we discussed before, I guess |
| 02:23.25 | Stewox | yes |
| 02:23.47 | Stewox | the turrets inside of the radius of the MARKING turret |
| 02:23.56 | Stewox | the turret that marked the unit |
| 02:24.17 | Stewox | and for the value it's just the same value as it's normal original range, to make it simpler for now |
| 02:24.43 | Kueken | you could let a marking tower emit an aura, enabling secondary weapons for all nearby turrets |
| 02:24.56 | JademusSreg | Smashcraft is probably the most polished public map. Battle Planets and my Photon Cycles both have very simple gameplay mechanics with emergent complexity. Magecraft is somewhere between on both polish and emergent complexity. |
| 02:25.03 | Stewox | the turrets that are outside of it's normal radius should not be able to link for the long-range |
| 02:25.42 | Stewox | yes but how would the validator work |
| 02:25.51 | Stewox | each turret has to have unique marker then ? |
| 02:26.01 | Kueken | o_0 |
| 02:26.03 | Stewox | all of them must not emmit aura |
| 02:26.04 | Kueken | why? |
| 02:26.10 | Kueken | why not? |
| 02:26.11 | Stewox | dunno just guessing |
| 02:26.16 | Daara | Too much complexity turns off new players. |
| 02:26.25 | Kueken | everyone shooting with a main weapon can emit an aura |
| 02:26.27 | Stewox | the listeners must not have enabling-aura |
| 02:26.28 | Daara | Especially when people get owned in Magecraft. |
| 02:26.36 | b2zeldafreak | i'll try those out |
| 02:26.36 | Kueken | as long as the long range weapon doesn't |
| 02:26.39 | Stewox | okay yes |
| 02:26.44 | Stewox | if you meant that |
| 02:26.52 | b2zeldafreak | is magecraft the physics/sumo game? |
| 02:26.52 | Stewox | indeed |
| 02:26.59 | Daara | yea |
| 02:27.08 | Daara | it's really fun |
| 02:27.10 | b2zeldafreak | i played it once |
| 02:27.55 | Stewox | i have some issue trying to wrap my head around this now |
| 02:28.07 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 02:28.09 | Stewox | everything else can be intact ? |
| 02:28.15 | Stewox | so i add only this aura |
| 02:28.27 | Stewox | and my normal-range validator should stay ? |
| 02:28.50 | Stewox | i think it must stay |
| 02:28.57 | JademusSreg | Magecraft is a good example of a map that has both decent polish and simple core mechanics. |
| 02:29.05 | Stewox | the one that disables linking in normal range |
| 02:29.16 | Stewox | i called it "normal targeting priority" |
| 02:29.27 | Stewox | kindof |
| 02:29.43 | b2zeldafreak | I was a bit disappointed in Magecraft, but that's because I was expecting something different and i got owned :P |
| 02:30.18 | JademusSreg | Hah |
| 02:30.22 | Stewox | kueken |
| 02:30.33 | Stewox | should i have an aura change states ? |
| 02:30.43 | b2zeldafreak | I thought it would be like a Warcraft 3 map where you mixed different elements together to make spells |
| 02:30.48 | Kueken | just try it yourself o_0 |
| 02:30.53 | Stewox | one should keep disabling , once validator kicks in , it should go away |
| 02:31.20 | Stewox | or do i need to enable them if they're left disabled ? |
| 02:31.23 | Frostwind | anyone wanna start a SC2 project with me? |
| 02:31.35 | b2zeldafreak | what kind of project frostwind |
| 02:31.37 | Daara | Frostwind. |
| 02:31.50 | Frostwind | rpg or arena style |
| 02:32.02 | Frostwind | not sure yet |
| 02:32.20 | Daara | We've gone over this with you before. |
| 02:32.22 | Frostwind | Daara: nice to see you know my name |
| 02:32.28 | Stewox | what is aura |
| 02:32.31 | Stewox | an effect ? |
| 02:32.36 | Stewox | or behaviro |
| 02:32.40 | Daara | Start a project and when you have something to show then ask. |
| 02:32.43 | Frostwind | aoe effect around the caster |
| 02:33.20 | Stewox | ok |
| 02:34.29 | Frostwind | b2zeldafreak: i guess not then |
| 02:34.51 | Kueken | "aura" is usually referring to a behavior, periodically executing a search effect, which applies another behavior to the search targets |
| 02:35.19 | Stewox | thanks |
| 02:36.26 | b2zeldafreak | @frostwind well I have my map that i'm going to be starting on |
| 02:36.40 | Frostwind | have fun with that |
| 02:36.45 | Frostwind | -_- |
| 02:36.57 | b2zeldafreak | it really depends on how big of a project you want to do though |
| 02:37.06 | b2zeldafreak | and how do you do the highlights and dotted lines |
| 02:38.13 | Stewox | kueken ... quick question: default radius of the normal turret range |
| 02:38.29 | Kueken | weapon -> range |
| 02:38.33 | Kueken | should be 7 |
| 02:38.36 | Stewox | the value |
| 02:38.40 | Stewox | 7 |
| 02:38.42 | Stewox | okay |
| 02:38.44 | Stewox | tnx |
| 02:39.00 | Kueken | :/ |
| 02:39.05 | Daara | Hey Keuken, list off things I would need to make a "Defend" ability like the one from Wc3 footmen. |
| 02:39.27 | Kueken | with or without projectile reflection? |
| 02:39.37 | Daara | without |
| 02:40.00 | Stewox | we should exclude caser from the search right |
| 02:40.07 | Stewox | or parent ? |
| 02:40.11 | Kueken | well, make a toggleable behavior, which reduces incoming damage and movespeed o_0 |
| 02:40.17 | Stewox | i mena source |
| 02:40.26 | Stewox | source or caster ? |
| 02:40.30 | Stewox | or both |
| 02:40.39 | Kueken | use the filter |
| 02:40.43 | Kueken | and filter self |
| 02:40.49 | Stewox | don't want the CALLER to be in the listener scanner |
| 02:40.58 | Stewox | ah ok |
| 02:42.41 | Stewox | excluded; self , under construction , required: structure ... ok ? |
| 02:45.11 | Stewox | hmm kueken ...but that should apply to other structures |
| 02:45.26 | Stewox | could throw error if it doesn't find stuff to change for others |
| 02:45.38 | Stewox | that don't have this ability |
| 02:45.39 | Kueken | then use a validator |
| 02:45.52 | Stewox | ah indeed |
| 02:46.39 | Kueken | maybe you should try some data tutorials, somehow I doubt you learn from asking me at every little step |
| 02:46.47 | Stewox | hehe |
| 02:47.04 | Stewox | aha there is already "is missile turret" |
| 02:47.07 | Stewox | great |
| 02:47.29 | A1win | hmmh.. I have "construction complete: set tint color" in a building's actor, but it isn't setting it D: |
| 02:47.52 | Kueken | try destroy ;) |
| 02:47.58 | Stewox | also |
| 02:48.07 | Stewox | what is this Failure Result : Must target unit |
| 02:48.20 | Stewox | is this default or you did it in your "is missile turret" validator |
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| 02:48.30 | Stewox | appears greyed so i think it's default then |
| 02:48.37 | Kueken | bingo |
| 02:49.05 | Stewox | well okay - felt suspicious |
| 02:49.34 | A1win | ah, unit birth works |
| 02:50.15 | Kueken | anyone knows a nice reload sound in SC2? |
| 02:54.04 | Stewox | kueken ..sry: where do i enter search target's, in the primary behavior or the search effect ? |
| 02:54.30 | Kueken | the validator you mean? |
| 02:54.48 | Stewox | no |
| 02:55.00 | Frostwind | is sooooo bored |
| 02:55.07 | Frostwind | nothing to do at al |
| 02:55.09 | Frostwind | all* |
| 02:55.14 | Stewox | behavior , search effect , behavior_enable_weapon |
| 02:55.28 | Stewox | that missile turret validator is okay , done that |
| 02:55.37 | Stewox | search target ? |
| 02:55.40 | Stewox | oh |
| 02:55.42 | Stewox | idito me |
| 02:55.53 | Stewox | that's already choosen by the filter and validator then |
| 02:56.05 | Stewox | lol |
| 02:56.42 | Stewox | primary behavior of the aura: Period Count |
| 02:56.59 | Stewox | -1 for live ? |
| 02:57.27 | Stewox | okay |
| 02:57.37 | Stewox | periodic is already real-time |
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| 03:00.46 | Stewox | one last thing |
| 03:00.58 | Frostwind | I wish someone would join me in starting a SC2 project. :( |
| 03:01.01 | Stewox | where do i enter the modifications kueken |
| 03:01.11 | Stewox | another behavior ? |
| 03:01.17 | Stewox | or this one that i have now |
| 03:01.31 | Stewox | i can't seem to see how to launch a new behavior with this behavior |
| 03:01.58 | Kueken | behavior -> search effect -> apply behavior effect -> behavior |
| 03:02.04 | Kueken | or what do you mean? |
| 03:02.22 | Stewox | there are 2 behaviors needed right ? |
| 03:02.29 | Stewox | primary , and modification |
| 03:02.39 | Kueken | one emits the aura |
| 03:02.52 | Kueken | the other one is the modification |
| 03:02.56 | Kueken | yes |
| 03:02.59 | Stewox | yeah i made the first one |
| 03:03.07 | Stewox | but to link these two ... |
| 03:03.16 | Stewox | ah i link it inside the search efect |
| 03:03.32 | Kueken | well, I need to go |
| 03:03.36 | Kueken | good luck ;) |
| 03:10.06 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 03:17.04 | Daara | ok what did i do wrong |
| 03:17.12 | Daara | when i use my defend ability |
| 03:17.27 | Daara | the button to toggle it off doesn't show |
| 03:18.46 | Daara | doh |
| 03:18.51 | Daara | forgot to turn the toggle flag on |
| 03:18.53 | Vailreth | toggle flag |
| 03:19.36 | Daara | where's the damage reduction part at |
| 03:21.27 | Vailreth | combat: damage Response |
| 03:21.43 | Vailreth | on the buff |
| 03:22.17 | Daara | fraction i assume 1 = 100% |
| 03:22.27 | Daara | .5 = 50%? |
| 03:22.45 | Vailreth | .5 yes |
| 03:22.58 | Daara | k |
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| 03:24.31 | Vailreth | who ever .linked Voxatron.... thank you and damn you i |
| 03:26.25 | Daara | mmm yea that did nothing |
| 03:26.51 | Vailreth | the damage repsonse chance is not 1 is it |
| 03:27.02 | Daara | that's what it is yes |
| 03:27.17 | Daara | that means the unit takes 100% damage from all sources |
| 03:27.18 | Daara | right? |
| 03:27.23 | Vailreth | no |
| 03:27.51 | Vailreth | The Chance is bascially the chance of teh damage reponse happening |
| 03:28.56 | Vailreth | if you want it to always reduce damage by 1 half you need the chance to be 1 and the modify fraction to be .5 |
| 03:31.11 | Vailreth | am i making sense? |
| 03:31.41 | Vailreth | cuz i just took some medication and i think im making sense... |
| 03:32.04 | Daara | yea you are lol |
| 03:32.19 | Vailreth | ok |
| 03:32.22 | Vailreth | :D |
| 03:33.16 | Daara | my footies now have defend like in wc3 |
| 03:33.23 | Vailreth | yay |
| 03:33.25 | Daara | minus the missile reflection... |
| 03:33.35 | Daara | which was kind of silly |
| 03:33.44 | Vailreth | yeah i still havent figured out how to do that yet |
| 03:33.45 | JademusSreg | True.dat |
| 03:34.06 | Daara | they even look like the footies when they defend too :D |
| 03:34.19 | Daara | yay stealth walk and stealth stand :D |
| 03:34.20 | Vailreth | i am trying to make a forcefeild and reflets missiles back at the caster |
| 03:34.47 | Daara | didn't magecraft have that? |
| 03:35.24 | JademusSreg | Magecraft projectiles are physics guided. |
| 03:35.31 | Vailreth | ah |
| 03:38.24 | Daara | hmm |
| 03:38.56 | Vailreth | i still need to come up with five more terran and protoss special powers |
| 03:39.14 | Daara | I always liked grenades and rifle grenades. |
| 03:39.47 | Vailreth | how do you mean? |
| 03:40.04 | Daara | As a special ability. |
| 03:40.06 | Daara | for terran |
| 03:40.19 | Daara | It's something I would add to a marine in almost every game. |
| 03:40.33 | Vailreth | ah |
| 03:41.05 | Vailreth | i mean things like an air strike called in from a command center like structure |
| 03:41.20 | Vailreth | like the command powers from red alert 3 |
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| 03:43.16 | Daara | I dunno then. |
| 03:43.21 | Daara | Besides like calling down marines. |
| 03:43.24 | Daara | Nukes. |
| 03:43.26 | Daara | Air strikes. |
| 03:45.37 | Vailreth | i know a second one ... |
| 03:46.41 | Vailreth | i have an airstrike how about an ability that drops a missile on a target area only instead of exploding at the target it explodes in the air and drops auto turrest |
| 03:46.46 | Vailreth | turrets* |
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| 03:50.28 | Stewox | guys |
| 03:50.32 | Stewox | need help fast |
| 03:50.48 | Stewox | how do i make a validator validate if another behavior is active or not ? |
| 03:51.11 | Stewox | 1. Behavior is enabling buff |
| 03:51.38 | Stewox | 2. Behavior 2 is disabling the same buff |
| 03:51.55 | Stewox | vailreth |
| 03:52.17 | Stewox | Behavior2 is disabling all the time |
| 03:52.30 | Stewox | while Behavior1 is enabling only sometimes |
| 03:52.46 | Stewox | i just want to validate so when we are enabling , we're not disabling |
| 03:52.52 | Stewox | mexa |
| 03:52.56 | Stewox | anyone |
| 03:53.01 | Stewox | daara |
| 03:53.13 | Vailreth | unit compare beahvior count ony checks active behaviors |
| 03:53.34 | Vailreth | is if a beahvior is disabled it dosent get counted |
| 03:54.01 | Stewox | yes i only need to disable , i'll re-enable later when validator is ok |
| 03:55.05 | Stewox | i mean |
| 03:55.07 | Stewox | nevermind |
| 03:55.14 | Stewox | now i actually see what you mean |
| 03:55.17 | Stewox | that's not issue |
| 03:55.27 | Stewox | i was talking BUFF weapon disabled/enabled |
| 03:56.16 | Stewox | vailreth |
| 03:56.25 | Stewox | Validator: Behavior |
| 03:56.42 | Stewox | i selected the Behavior1 , that is a BUFF , that "enables the weapons" |
| 03:57.06 | Stewox | it's an AURA |
| 03:57.19 | Stewox | and i selected the final buff behavior |
| 03:57.21 | Stewox | correct ? |
| 03:57.48 | Vailreth | i dont know what you are trying to do |
| 03:58.02 | Stewox | i have an aura |
| 03:58.20 | Stewox | the aura when it is active enables the weapons for some units inside the aura |
| 03:58.30 | Stewox | that's all done ok |
| 03:58.45 | Stewox | i need a separate behavior that keeps those weapons diabled when aura is not active |
| 03:58.55 | Stewox | that's it |
| 03:59.04 | Vailreth | you can just set the weapons to disabled by default |
| 03:59.30 | Stewox | will they go back to disabled when aura is deactivated - that's what i fear of ? |
| 03:59.35 | Vailreth | yes |
| 03:59.42 | Stewox | ok where do i set this ? |
| 03:59.55 | Stewox | it's so late im so kind of ... |
| 04:00.03 | Stewox | sorry for asking such basics |
| 04:00.07 | Vailreth | once the beahavior that activates the weapon is gone the weapons will disable again. |
| 04:00.12 | Vailreth | and its no problem |
| 04:00.18 | Stewox | well great |
| 04:00.39 | Vailreth | wepaon Options on the weapon its self |
| 04:00.48 | Stewox | do i set this in the unit that uses the weapon ? |
| 04:00.53 | Stewox | aha |
| 04:00.55 | Stewox | ok |
| 04:01.56 | Stewox | may i ask what "continious scan" option does (offtopic) ? |
| 04:02.08 | Vailreth | no clue im sorry |
| 04:02.24 | Stewox | ok |
| 04:12.13 | Stewox | vailreth |
| 04:12.19 | Stewox | my Aura is not working imo |
| 04:12.39 | Stewox | i just made an aura using this : http://www.udmod.com/archive/index.php/t-747.html |
| 04:12.48 | Stewox | now i actually need to activate the BUFF |
| 04:12.53 | Stewox | to enable weapons |
| 04:14.01 | Vailreth | your aura is applying a buff to the units you want to fire correct? |
| 04:14.12 | Stewox | i need this to be active when the weapon of the unit is firing |
| 04:14.37 | Stewox | the same unit has the aura that enables other units a SECONDARY weapon except SELF |
| 04:14.44 | Stewox | Missile Turret |
| 04:15.10 | Stewox | when he is firing his original weapon - that should activate the aura i built |
| 04:15.24 | Vailreth | ok.. |
| 04:15.38 | Vailreth | so whats not working? |
| 04:15.38 | Stewox | the aura will then enable secondary custom weapons on other NEARBY turrets except self |
| 04:15.47 | Stewox | that's all done , raduses and all that |
| 04:15.56 | Stewox | well it doesn't do anything , it's still disabled |
| 04:16.14 | Vailreth | is the aura not firing? |
| 04:16.28 | Stewox | if the aura would activate |
| 04:16.41 | Stewox | it would have enabled secondary weapons on other turrets |
| 04:16.48 | Stewox | and i would notice that immediately |
| 04:16.57 | Vailreth | ok how are you validating the initial behavior ? |
| 04:17.21 | Stewox | no idea , kueken guided me and he left and i think i frogot one vital thing |
| 04:17.46 | Stewox | i actually need to tell this AURA that it needs to activate when the NORMAL weapon starts firing |
| 04:17.59 | Stewox | that normal weapon is the LongBolt Missile |
| 04:18.13 | Stewox | initial behavior ? |
| 04:18.19 | Stewox | for the aura ? |
| 04:18.30 | Stewox | i think there are no validators at all |
| 04:18.51 | Vailreth | the initial behavior |
| 04:19.12 | Stewox | the one that fires the persistent ? |
| 04:19.19 | Vailreth | yes |
| 04:19.39 | Stewox | no validators here |
| 04:20.20 | Vailreth | then what about the beahvior that enables the weapons when on units? |
| 04:20.50 | Stewox | the final modification behavior ... it'll take a look |
| 04:21.11 | Stewox | no validators either |
| 04:21.28 | Vailreth | there there is a breakdown somwhere |
| 04:21.42 | Stewox | breakdown ? |
| 04:21.58 | Stewox | what's that |
| 04:22.05 | Vailreth | a flaw |
| 04:22.13 | Stewox | oh |
| 04:22.17 | Stewox | .obviously |
| 04:22.30 | Vailreth | i dont know enough about what you are trying to do to help |
| 04:23.19 | Vailreth | form what you have told me the aura should be working and the weapns active all of the time |
| 04:23.23 | Stewox | this aura is set up like i showed you on the site |
| 04:23.40 | Stewox | the search area is done okay and all other values are done fine don't worry about it |
| 04:23.46 | Stewox | kueken did that |
| 04:24.00 | Stewox | what i did , i linked them all together according to the site |
| 04:24.07 | Stewox | "how to make basic aura" |
| 04:24.35 | Stewox | and then finally i linked that initial Behavior , to the unit structure |
| 04:24.40 | Stewox | that's all |
| 04:25.01 | Stewox | the point is |
| 04:25.08 | Stewox | this aura is doing nothing |
| 04:25.13 | Stewox | it's not checking when to fire |
| 04:25.21 | Stewox | it's not doing anything besited being there |
| 04:25.34 | Vailreth | personally i think that tutorial is wrong in a few places |
| 04:25.41 | Stewox | why ? |
| 04:26.26 | Stewox | how |
| 04:26.29 | Vailreth | when you have an effect in the periodic effect field of the behavior its the same as having a peridic effect with sub effects |
| 04:26.39 | Vailreth | basically there is an extra step that isnt needed |
| 04:26.54 | Stewox | so i need to get rid of the persistent ? |
| 04:27.05 | Stewox | kueken did not tell me about persistend indeed |
| 04:27.10 | Vailreth | maybe. |
| 04:27.15 | Stewox | still this is not what im looking for |
| 04:27.34 | Stewox | im look how to validate "is firing" so the aura activates on that |
| 04:27.45 | Stewox | and i don't know how to do it via validators |
| 04:27.47 | Vailreth | right now that is not the issue. |
| 04:27.55 | Stewox | how not |
| 04:27.58 | Stewox | i want that |
| 04:28.02 | Stewox | or else it's useless |
| 04:28.09 | Vailreth | but to do that you just use the Unit Weapon Firing validator |
| 04:28.22 | Stewox | ah |
| 04:28.28 | Stewox | well i see your point |
| 04:28.40 | Stewox | we should get it to work first , then make customizations |
| 04:28.47 | Vailreth | but if the aura is not active at all |
| 04:28.59 | Vailreth | validating it wont help |
| 04:29.49 | Stewox | but .. speaking of this validating |
| 04:29.57 | Stewox | do i need to validate the buff or the initial ? |
| 04:30.14 | Vailreth | the initial |
| 04:30.21 | Stewox | ok |
| 04:30.40 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/cc/Screenshot2011-11-04%2006_28_12.jpg |
| 04:31.04 | A1win | any idea why the turret's sight radius is weird D: it should be 1, but it shows a larger area |
| 04:31.10 | A1win | and its somehow not centered on the turret |
| 04:31.32 | A1win | I have a footprint that uses 1/4 tiles... maybe that |
| 04:31.50 | Vailreth | the unit art may not be centered to the footprnt |
| 04:32.21 | A1win | it is |
| 04:32.40 | Vailreth | mhm |
| 04:32.43 | Vailreth | hmm* |
| 04:32.44 | A1win | the footprint is 2x2, and it has a 0.5x0.5x non-passable area in the middle (so 1.5 border) |
| 04:33.02 | A1win | err, 0.75 I mean |
| 04:33.17 | A1win | mmh maybe because the units radius is 1 |
| 04:33.32 | Mexa_ | hey A1win, are those wires generated dynamically? |
| 04:33.58 | A1win | yeah |
| 04:34.11 | Vailreth | how? |
| 04:34.16 | Mexa_ | cool, if so |
| 04:34.30 | Vailreth | they remind me of Nods base Defenses in CnC 3 |
| 04:34.44 | A1win | calculate distance and angle between units, spawn it to the middle, change angle, set X scale to correspond length |
| 04:34.58 | Stewox | vailreth ... just: will this validator for firing diable or enable when it's firing ? |
| 04:35.02 | Mexa_ | ah |
| 04:35.19 | Mexa_ | neat idea. |
| 04:35.37 | Vailreth | if the aura is working the validtaor will enable it while the weapon is firing |
| 04:35.39 | Stewox | i do not want the AURA disabled when it's firing |
| 04:35.44 | Vailreth | or atlest should |
| 04:35.51 | Mexa_ | Anyways, gnight |
| 04:35.55 | Stewox | yes okay |
| 04:35.57 | Stewox | that's fine then |
| 04:36.06 | Stewox | another thing |
| 04:36.12 | Stewox | what's the search flags |
| 04:36.13 | A1win | I'm also using power cables for bigger structures |
| 04:36.16 | Vailreth | what model are you using for the wires? |
| 04:36.19 | Stewox | Extend By unit Radius |
| 04:36.31 | Stewox | maybe something's wrong with the scanner |
| 04:36.44 | A1win | the ground wire is Gate Control Cable |
| 04:36.58 | Vailreth | that makes the searh start from the edge of of the units radius |
| 04:37.05 | Vailreth | instead of its center |
| 04:37.33 | Stewox | i want center |
| 04:37.43 | A1win | bah, vision still bugged |
| 04:37.44 | Stewox | leave default ? |
| 04:37.50 | A1win | I mean sight |
| 04:38.14 | A1win | also I'm not sure how the turret will be able to shoot at enemies that are in the black mask D: |
| 04:38.27 | A1win | it should be, but the area shouldn't be revealed for players while it's doing so... |
| 04:38.46 | A1win | oh yeah, I can share vision of the enemies to the computer ally who controls the turret D: |
| 04:38.53 | Vailreth | for that validator you will want to set the weapon to the missile launchers wepaon you want |
| 04:39.23 | Vailreth | i wonder if icould draw those as a beam? |
| 04:39.44 | Stewox | yeah indeed |
| 04:40.06 | Stewox | Offet Area by Angle = center ? |
| 04:40.18 | Vailreth | that i dont know |
| 04:41.03 | A1win | it's as if the game is considering the unit's center to be the top-right tile of the 2x2 footprint... |
| 04:41.34 | A1win | well I suppose I'll just decrease the turret's sight range even more |
| 04:42.03 | Stewox | ok vail thanks for help |
| 04:42.06 | A1win | err |
| 04:42.11 | Stewox | i'll continute later |
| 04:42.15 | Stewox | bye |
| 04:42.34 | A1win | now it bugs with another unit as well D: and it doesn't even have a weird footprint |
| 04:42.49 | A1win | maybe the "share vision of unit" thingy bugs... |
| 04:44.19 | A1win | can I make a weapon that can target and auto-acquire non-visible enemies? |
| 04:49.36 | A1win | pff... seems the vision is only properly centered on footprints with odd width and height |
| 04:49.49 | A1win | 5x5 works fine but 4x4 and 2x2 don't |
| 04:50.09 | A1win | oh right... it's because of how the vision is handled |
| 05:03.07 | Daara | Unless I can find something to add to this I think this will be my final version of my Footmen :D |
| 05:03.16 | Daara | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/images/35/325/FootyDefend.jpg |
| 05:03.24 | Daara | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/images/35/324/Footman.jpg |
| 05:19.43 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/cc/Screenshot2011-11-04%2007_18_54.jpg |
| 05:19.48 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/cc/Screenshot2011-11-04%2007_18_58.jpg |
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| 05:51.36 | A1win | any idea which actor controls the building construction animations? I moved auto-turret to use SCV build ability, and it isn't playing the construction animation while being constructed and instead playing the default stand animation |
| 05:52.07 | A1win | can't find anything in the turret's actor or the build auto-turret ability |
| 05:55.07 | A1win | ah, separate actors apparently |
| 05:57.53 | A1win | except that it still isn't doing anything to the auto-turret x_x |
| 05:59.52 | A1win | ...which could be because it doesn't have any build animation O_o |
| 06:00.33 | A1win | oh yeah, I forgot the raven's ability is so fast |
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| 06:16.57 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 06:17.12 | XenoX101 | do you think blizzard put preordain into the hots alpha |
| 06:17.18 | XenoX101 | just to piss mapmakers off who want to copy it? |
| 06:17.23 | XenoX101 | ;p |
| 06:17.35 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 06:17.49 | XenoX101 | the ability, lets you see enemy production queues |
| 06:18.32 | JademusSreg | I mean I don't parse your question; I'm aware of the ability. |
| 06:18.44 | XenoX101 | it was a joke |
| 06:18.49 | XenoX101 | because its hard to remake the ability |
| 06:18.55 | XenoX101 | as if blizzard were trying to be assholes |
| 06:18.59 | XenoX101 | to us mapmakers |
| 06:19.00 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 06:19.15 | XenoX101 | or the few that were trying to remake hots at least |
| 06:19.16 | XenoX101 | rather* |
| 06:22.56 | Mexa_ | Hey Jademus? |
| 06:23.30 | Mexa_ | I found a better "definition" of that camera stuttering bug I had |
| 06:24.28 | JademusSreg | Orly? |
| 06:24.31 | Mexa_ | In order to not have the camera stuttering, one must set both unit position and facing before the camera, at the same game tick. |
| 06:24.57 | Mexa_ | Or rather, one must not forget to "re set" the facing each tick |
| 06:26.17 | JademusSreg | Sounds irksome. |
| 06:26.46 | Mexa_ | Yeah |
| 06:27.00 | Mexa_ | I'm not sure how to fix it with when only using orders though |
| 06:27.03 | Mexa_ | ._. |
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| 06:29.34 | Mexa_ | Hmm, how did you do it in Photon Cycles, Jademus? |
| 06:37.04 | JademusSreg | I just enabled follow unit group and said fuck it. |
| 06:37.19 | JademusSreg | And I changed the camera data values to prevent the camera from lagging behind. |
| 06:37.53 | JademusSreg | Of course, since you you have the source map... =D |
| 06:43.24 | A1win | set the camera to move every 0.0625 seconds over 0.0625 seconds, that should stop the stuttering |
| 06:44.21 | Mexa_ | It doesn't stop the stuttering |
| 06:45.03 | Mexa_ | And yeah, I forgot that I had it Jademus.. lol |
| 06:45.29 | A1win | weird... I've had follow cams with pan without any stutter |
| 06:45.54 | Mexa_ | What about all your parameters |
| 06:46.34 | Mexa_ | as in duration, velocity and deceleration? |
| 06:46.47 | A1win | I already told you the duration |
| 06:47.05 | A1win | 0% deceleration |
| 06:47.14 | A1win | and velocity comes from duration and distance |
| 06:47.17 | A1win | doesn't it? |
| 06:47.34 | Mexa_ | okay |
| 06:48.54 | A1win | not sure if I remember correctly though D: |
| 06:49.40 | Mexa_ | Hmm |
| 06:49.52 | A1win | bah I really need a shorter word for "Underpowered" |
| 06:49.54 | Mexa_ | So, apparantly it didn't give me the same results as when I tried yesterday |
| 06:50.00 | Mexa_ | Though however |
| 06:50.11 | Mexa_ | You can still see the stuttering, even though it's small |
| 06:50.45 | Mexa_ | Setting the camera as 0, 0, 0 and setting the facing at a rate of 0 was even more precise. |
| 06:51.15 | A1win | ah right not sure about turning the camera |
| 06:51.28 | Mexa_ | I'm not turning the camera actually |
| 06:51.41 | Mexa_ | Only setting the car facing to the same car facing it was the previous frame |
| 06:51.46 | Mexa_ | Which is the same |
| 06:51.58 | A1win | O.o |
| 06:52.05 | Mexa_ | camera values of 0 -1 0 works too |
| 06:52.28 | Mexa_ | A1win, like I said |
| 06:52.30 | A1win | I don't remember in which order the parameters are ;p |
| 06:52.30 | Mexa_ | That is the bug |
| 06:52.50 | Mexa_ | duration, velocity and deceleration, as the order. |
| 06:53.09 | A1win | ah right there is velocity... |
| 06:53.17 | A1win | -1 is current velocity? |
| 06:53.38 | A1win | so yeah I've been using -1 for that |
| 06:53.42 | Mexa_ | I forgot what the tooltip for it |
| 06:53.56 | Mexa_ | But in the gui, it says -1 for current or something |
| 06:54.30 | A1win | how long are you waiting between each set? 0.0625 ? |
| 06:54.39 | Mexa_ | nevertheless, finding that shit out... |
| 06:55.02 | A1win | try using 0.125 as duration |
| 06:55.20 | A1win | and wait for 0.0625 |
| 06:55.56 | Mexa_ | I already wait at that time |
| 06:56.01 | Mexa_ | Why the duration? |
| 06:56.09 | Mexa_ | Just curious. |
| 06:56.12 | A1win | to keep the camera moving all the time |
| 06:56.15 | A1win | and not stopping |
| 06:56.57 | Mexa_ | That'd make the camera move much slower than what the car is actually moving, wouldn't it? |
| 06:57.04 | Mexa_ | *the unit |
| 06:57.13 | Mexa_ | eg my Hellion |
| 06:57.22 | A1win | just lag 0.0625 seconds behind it |
| 06:57.36 | A1win | that's not much :p |
| 06:58.07 | Mexa_ | yeah that wasn't good at all |
| 06:58.12 | A1win | oh |
| 06:58.16 | Mexa_ | Instead of stuttering, it now is more like wobbling |
| 06:58.19 | Mexa_ | back and forwards |
| 06:58.23 | A1win | :P |
| 06:58.26 | Mexa_ | :> |
| 06:58.36 | Mexa_ | Anyways, I did find a solution with the facing |
| 06:58.47 | Mexa_ | Which is what I found most accurate, so never mind for the current time being. |
| 06:59.45 | A1win | why isn't my turret pausing its animations with Animation Pause All D: |
| 07:00.00 | A1win | * AnimSetPausedAll |
| 07:00.09 | Mexa_ | .-. I know nothing about this data editing anyways |
| 07:04.01 | A1win | hmm... one can make a word smaller by using a smaller font =o |
| 07:08.24 | A1win | oh |
| 07:08.29 | A1win | the animation actually was paused |
| 07:08.42 | A1win | it's the turret (of the turret) that's rotating, not the animation |
| 07:09.10 | A1win | I wonder if I can make that stop |
| 07:10.03 | A1win | ah it has its own actor |
| 07:10.37 | A1win | which doesn't have nearly anything in it... |
| 07:12.21 | XenoX101 | don't you hate it when you realise a problem |
| 07:12.30 | XenoX101 | that might explain why 50 potential solutions |
| 07:12.32 | XenoX101 | didnt work? |
| 07:12.39 | A1win | :x |
| 07:12.42 | XenoX101 | and then you have to retry those 50 potential solutions? |
| 07:13.11 | A1win | don't you hate it even more when you just can't find the solution ;[ |
| 07:13.20 | XenoX101 | true |
| 07:13.27 | XenoX101 | but it makes me think |
| 07:13.35 | XenoX101 | if in the future there will be |
| 07:13.37 | A1win | mmh... the turret has "Spin" in its idle key |
| 07:13.37 | XenoX101 | procedural editting |
| 07:13.45 | A1win | but dunno if that could be changed somehow |
| 07:14.15 | XenoX101 | or not procedural editing um |
| 07:14.20 | XenoX101 | what would you call it where it saves your edits |
| 07:14.25 | XenoX101 | and then you can revert to them |
| 07:15.27 | XenoX101 | well anyway that |
| 07:15.55 | A1win | there are some computer program testing software where you can take steps, save them, and the next time you test, you can do the same steps automatically |
| 07:16.14 | XenoX101 | yeah thats sort of what I'm thinking |
| 07:16.14 | A1win | or that was for GUI testing |
| 07:16.19 | XenoX101 | and then if you stuff up something primary |
| 07:16.21 | XenoX101 | and dont realise it |
| 07:16.26 | XenoX101 | you can change that |
| 07:16.27 | XenoX101 | then revert your edits |
| 07:16.31 | XenoX101 | and retry them with the new build |
| 07:17.03 | A1win | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revision_control |
| 07:18.50 | XenoX101 | yeah that seems more high level though |
| 07:18.56 | XenoX101 | I mean low level like code itself |
| 07:19.09 | XenoX101 | which is obviously harder but |
| 07:19.22 | A1win | that's not high level at all |
| 07:19.32 | XenoX101 | well it talks about file revisions |
| 07:19.34 | XenoX101 | versions |
| 07:19.39 | A1win | yeah |
| 07:19.40 | XenoX101 | which is like the end product |
| 07:19.43 | A1win | no |
| 07:19.51 | XenoX101 | well not end end |
| 07:19.56 | A1win | every time you make an edit, it is a new version |
| 07:19.57 | XenoX101 | but its the end product of the source |
| 07:20.02 | XenoX101 | mm |
| 07:20.14 | A1win | it's not about end products :P |
| 07:20.34 | XenoX101 | like it looks like it branches off in big chunks |
| 07:20.38 | XenoX101 | like areas of code |
| 07:20.39 | A1win | for example, modern games have tens of thousands of revision in their final releases |
| 07:20.51 | XenoX101 | you know what I mean |
| 07:20.52 | XenoX101 | its like |
| 07:20.55 | XenoX101 | group of triggers A |
| 07:20.57 | XenoX101 | group of triggers B |
| 07:20.59 | XenoX101 | instead of |
| 07:21.01 | XenoX101 | trigger A |
| 07:21.03 | XenoX101 | trigger B |
| 07:21.05 | XenoX101 | type thing |
| 07:21.18 | XenoX101 | but yeah its definitely the right thing |
| 07:21.19 | XenoX101 | just |
| 07:21.26 | XenoX101 | it wouldn't fix the problem I had |
| 07:21.36 | XenoX101 | because I wanted to maintain trigger A |
| 07:21.39 | XenoX101 | while reverting trigger B |
| 07:21.42 | A1win | is your enter broken or why do you split your sentences so often D: |
| 07:21.52 | XenoX101 | visual clarity |
| 07:22.03 | A1win | it makes it harder to read when the text is constantly scrolling |
| 07:22.04 | XenoX101 | in that case at least |
| 07:22.24 | XenoX101 | yeah its a habit |
| 07:22.29 | XenoX101 | I think its because I type like I talk |
| 07:22.39 | XenoX101 | and I dont talk in long-winding sentences generally |
| 07:23.07 | A1win | you know SVN and Git? |
| 07:23.15 | XenoX101 | nope |
| 07:23.53 | A1win | well they're version control software |
| 07:24.23 | A1win | uhm how to explain this |
| 07:24.49 | XenoX101 | yeah it looks similar |
| 07:24.53 | A1win | the "deepest" part of them lets you revert your code or pieces of code into earlier versions |
| 07:25.07 | XenoX101 | yeah thats what I mean |
| 07:25.18 | XenoX101 | and the opportunity to retry your changes on an older version |
| 07:25.25 | XenoX101 | is what would be really cool |
| 07:25.37 | XenoX101 | like step by step |
| 07:25.39 | A1win | and also if someone commits code that someone else has edited, it shows you which parts would overlap and so on |
| 07:25.53 | XenoX101 | ya thats more in line with what I'm thinking |
| 07:26.05 | A1win | it's the same thing :P |
| 07:26.17 | A1win | the earlier page I linked is just theory |
| 07:26.22 | A1win | these are actual implementations |
| 07:26.28 | XenoX101 | well not really because if you revert a file |
| 07:26.31 | XenoX101 | it reverts the entire code back |
| 07:26.46 | XenoX101 | whereas if you revert a section |
| 07:26.52 | XenoX101 | thats something different |
| 07:27.13 | A1win | who said you can only revert entire files D: |
| 07:27.25 | XenoX101 | well the way the article talked about it |
| 07:27.27 | XenoX101 | with versions and such |
| 07:27.36 | XenoX101 | lines of code don't have versions |
| 07:27.39 | XenoX101 | files have versions |
| 07:27.54 | A1win | well obviously not every key stroke is saved as a different version |
| 07:28.00 | A1win | that would be insanely memory-consuming |
| 07:28.04 | XenoX101 | ya naturally |
| 07:28.13 | A1win | so you only get a new version after you commit a file |
| 07:28.15 | XenoX101 | but having like a set function |
| 07:28.21 | XenoX101 | that can be reverted |
| 07:28.25 | A1win | and if you really want to, you can commit it after changing one line |
| 07:28.29 | XenoX101 | thats what I was getting at |
| 07:28.49 | XenoX101 | and yeah commiting is what that article sounded like |
| 07:28.53 | A1win | it all depends on how you commit your stuff |
| 07:29.32 | A1win | anyway |
| 07:29.41 | A1win | how do I make my turret stop spinning when it has a behavior D: |
| 07:30.19 | A1win | oh |
| 07:30.41 | A1win | how about disabling the turret D: |
| 07:30.53 | A1win | or does it make it disappear as well... |
| 07:31.08 | A1win | let's see |
| 07:31.46 | A1win | bleh, apparently it only prevents it from spinning |
| 07:31.49 | A1win | ... |
| 07:31.52 | A1win | from firing |
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| 07:42.21 | Mexa_ | .. how revision control software works is that it saves the difference of each file for each update you make. |
| 07:42.53 | Mexa_ | this works with plaintext files, and xmlfiles, and galaxy code files, for instance |
| 07:43.31 | Mexa_ | Oh well, maybe you said that already |
| 07:43.36 | Mexa_ | lurks off. |
| 07:45.39 | A1win | bah... if I give the unit one turret that spins and one that doesn't spin, it always spins the actor no matter which order the turrets are in or which weapons the turrets have |
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| 07:48.04 | shadowwolf | anyone know why a game would, disconnect you, and revert all models to their default when you try to play a map? |
| 07:50.10 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 07:52.33 | shadowwolf | it only does it on ultra and extreme settings |
| 07:52.49 | A1win | why are they not default models? |
| 07:53.01 | shadowwolf | and what wierder i just realized tis not on the default model it turns it to the mineral with creep... |
| 07:54.01 | A1win | are you being unclear on purpose D: |
| 07:55.03 | shadowwolf | gimme a sec |
| 07:55.13 | A1win | what's the difference between a unit's "Combat: Turret" and "Combat: Weapons - Turret" ? |
| 07:55.38 | A1win | auto-turret for example has nothing in "Combat: Turret" |
| 07:56.05 | shadowwolf | i know a weapon turret is different but i dont know what a combat turret does |
| 07:56.42 | shadowwolf | This is what my map is suppose to look like |
| 07:56.43 | shadowwolf | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/sssss.png |
| 07:56.58 | shadowwolf | This is my map on extreme settings |
| 07:56.59 | shadowwolf | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Untitled-13.png |
| 07:57.14 | shadowwolf | On extreme settings it also lags out.. |
| 07:57.33 | A1win | actors can have different models on different settings |
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| 07:57.47 | A1win | you might have only changed the lower setting model |
| 07:57.57 | shadowwolf | i put everything on extreme and checked that, it says its on auir tree too |
| 07:59.19 | shadowwolf | I thought lag was causing hti so i removed all water and doodads... didnt help a bit |
| 07:59.28 | shadowwolf | This* not hti |
| 08:01.22 | shadowwolf | and what gets me the most is the model it shows on extreme isnt the default its Minerals-with creep... |
| 08:04.57 | A1win | meh, even "suppress turning" flag doesn't stop the turret from spinning :< |
| 08:05.16 | A1win | since it's not the unit that's turning... |
| 08:05.53 | shadowwolf | i think I saw a setting that said somthing about rotation on the turret that is set to 360 |
| 08:05.58 | shadowwolf | set it to 0 |
| 08:06.12 | A1win | I know how to disable the turret from turning, I don't know how to disable it turning with a behavior |
| 08:06.20 | shadowwolf | oh |
| 08:06.36 | A1win | or anything else that I can change on-the-fly |
| 08:06.53 | A1win | I've tried disabling the turret but it's still spinning |
| 08:07.09 | A1win | mmh though it's weapon - turret, maybe I should disable the weapon instead... |
| 08:08.08 | A1win | no change... |
| 08:09.01 | A1win | >__________________< |
| 08:09.03 | A1win | facepalm |
| 08:09.13 | A1win | XenoX101, what did you say about trying 50 things all over again |
| 08:09.22 | A1win | I didn't have the damn behavior on the turret to begin with |
| 08:10.53 | A1win | except that... I think it got it afterwards, meh |
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| 08:11.45 | SPQR | anyone have any diea as to why a map could make people randomly DC? |
| 08:15.16 | A1win | hmm.... changing time scale on the turret makes it spin slower, but it also makes it being built slower <.< |
| 08:16.18 | A1win | but then again, I could make the behavior be off while it's being built... |
| 08:19.55 | A1win | bah |
| 08:20.54 | shadowwolf | is there anything the disconnecters have in common? |
| 08:22.40 | shadowwolf | lol thats alot of work to make the turrets stop spinning |
| 08:23.57 | A1win | yeah, and I can't figure it out x\ |
| 08:24.15 | A1win | what's the difference between buff and attribute types of behaviors? |
| 08:27.42 | A1win | oh well... I guess they'll just keep spinning then |
| 08:28.12 | A1win | hmm... though what if I make them not spin, and instead make the turret randomly turn using fidgets when idle :o |
| 08:30.06 | A1win | ...which would mean I'd have to be able to disable fidgets from the turret, not the unit >_> |
| 08:30.46 | shadowwolf | cant you just remove the turning animation? |
| 08:30.54 | A1win | it doesn't have a turning animation |
| 08:31.01 | shadowwolf | damn |
| 08:31.01 | A1win | it's the turret that spins, not the animation |
| 08:31.11 | A1win | hmm now it's turning using fidgets |
| 08:31.17 | shadowwolf | eh i dunno, im new to all this |
| 08:31.28 | A1win | let's see if disabling fidgets from the unit also disables them from the turret |
| 08:31.46 | shadowwolf | well its too damn late at night to be talkin aobut maps imma go to sleep... |
| 08:32.34 | A1win | bah, didn't... |
| 08:32.43 | A1win | another try with using unit fidgets to turn the turret |
| 08:34.56 | A1win | meh |
| 08:37.50 | Mexa_ | http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/596953050239161172/0C21CF677D70DDC895BCFED5CD49077BA332876D/ aww, how cute dragon =3 |
| 08:47.45 | A1win | :O I can pause the unit with triggers |
| 08:52.44 | A1win | baah |
| 08:52.49 | A1win | but then it can't be built =P |
| 08:57.13 | A1win | hmm... perdition turrets could burrow underground when they are offline |
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| 08:58.20 | A1win | maybe I could've made the auto-turret morph into a non-spinning turret as well =p |
| 09:08.33 | Mexa_ | you speak too much to yourself :v |
| 09:13.51 | A1win | any idea why this perdition turret isn't burrowing? :< |
| 09:15.33 | XenoX101 | does anyone else feel uneasy when putting |
| 09:15.41 | XenoX101 | a key function as part of an "else" condition? |
| 09:15.51 | XenoX101 | like If <peculiar condition> blah |
| 09:15.55 | XenoX101 | else <main thing> |
| 09:16.10 | XenoX101 | hm I could just do != |
| 09:16.18 | A1win | ._o |
| 09:16.26 | A1win | nothing wrong with that |
| 09:16.41 | XenoX101 | I get OCD about these things sometimes |
| 09:16.42 | A1win | I mean.. if you don't have anything in the if part, then it's a bit silly |
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| 09:17.41 | XenoX101 | also does anyone get the feeling when they make a big trigger |
| 09:17.50 | XenoX101 | like they just finished a giant card pyramid |
| 09:17.54 | XenoX101 | and dont want to touch a thing? ;p |
| 09:18.03 | XenoX101 | er, are afraid to touch a thing* |
| 09:19.24 | A1win | not really :P |
| 09:19.53 | A1win | gaaah why isn't this damn turret burrowing |
| 09:20.42 | A1win | not even if I give it a direct order to burrow |
| 09:20.54 | A1win | but the original design doesn't even have a command button for the burrow... |
| 09:21.07 | A1win | and I thought I didn't even change anything that could affect this |
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| 09:24.22 | A1win | hah |
| 09:24.39 | A1win | the underground turret cost was set to 150 minerals, so it thought it required them to burrow O_o |
| 09:34.49 | A1win | bah now I get issues with the unit type changing since it morphs |
| 09:45.49 | A1win | wooo they work, finally |
| 09:52.40 | A1win | mmmh... except that it can't unburrow if anyone is standing in the 2x2 area x_x |
| 09:55.12 | A1win | I suppose this could be solved by creatin ga 3rd turret that's a copy of the normal one and making the unburrow morph into that instead the one that was originally placed =P |
| 09:56.29 | A1win | oooor by checking the ignore placement flag in the unburrow ability |
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| 09:59.21 | XenoX101 | sexy |
| 09:59.25 | XenoX101 | I just got my preordain ability |
| 09:59.28 | XenoX101 | to work on hatcheries with their larva |
| 10:00.51 | A1win | hmmh... the perdition turret placement has a range actor but I can't figure out what creates it |
| 10:09.17 | A1win | err... now for some reason it keeps reburrowing after unburrowing if there's an enemy near it |
| 10:17.23 | A1win | ah now it works... for some reason |
| 10:17.30 | A1win | and now it doesn't |
| 10:17.32 | A1win | >_< |
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| 10:21.22 | XenoX101 | does "Empty Unit Group" include dead units? |
| 10:21.35 | XenoX101 | er |
| 10:21.44 | XenoX101 | are they considered part of an unit group? |
| 10:21.49 | XenoX101 | or is it considered empty |
| 10:21.51 | A1win | they are |
| 10:21.59 | XenoX101 | ic |
| 10:22.16 | A1win | that's why there's the "any/living/dead units in unit group" function |
| 10:22.54 | A1win | what happens to a unit's behaviors when it morphs into another unit? |
| 10:23.06 | XenoX101 | thats a tricky one |
| 10:23.14 | XenoX101 | I believe it keeps it, but I'm not sure |
| 10:23.42 | XenoX101 | yeah I think it keeps it |
| 10:23.48 | XenoX101 | but |
| 10:23.53 | XenoX101 | there is probably a flag or something |
| 10:24.01 | XenoX101 | on either the behaviour or the morph |
| 10:26.15 | A1win | I have 3 different behavios that order this turret to burrow when (re)applied, and one behavior that orders it to unburrow when reapplied |
| 10:26.45 | A1win | otherwise it works fine, but when there's an enemy near the turret and it unburrows, it immeadiately burrows again, and keeps burrowing and unburrowing |
| 10:27.14 | A1win | and I can't figure out why it's doing that because I shouldn't be applying any of those behaviors in that occasion |
| 10:28.06 | XenoX101 | damnit |
| 10:28.08 | XenoX101 | why wont this actor die |
| 10:32.39 | A1win | well apparently it has the correct behaviors... so something else is causing it to burrow |
| 10:33.21 | A1win | err, now it does it even when there's no enemy near it |
| 10:33.55 | A1win | and the other turret that was placed after the enemies died works just fine x.x |
| 10:34.09 | A1win | maybe the turret is afraid to come out |
| 10:36.24 | A1win | hm the editor still shows that the unit is linked to the perdition turret burrow behavior |
| 10:36.30 | A1win | even though I removed it from the turret o.O |
| 10:44.38 | A1win | hmm... apparently the behavior is still somehow linked to the turret's weapon |
| 10:45.24 | A1win | ah... the flamethrower starts a timer |
| 10:47.41 | A1win | and suddenly it all makes sense |
| 10:47.54 | A1win | I'm ready for my ascension now |
| 10:50.05 | XenoX101 | fuck yeah preordain works |
| 10:50.10 | XenoX101 | and it only took some 100 lines in a trigger! |
| 10:50.18 | A1win | :x |
| 10:50.29 | XenoX101 | its actually only about 15 if then else's |
| 10:50.34 | XenoX101 | with actions etc |
| 10:50.45 | XenoX101 | but ya, damn thing is complicated |
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| 10:51.10 | XenoX101 | basically has to go through every unit within an array to create an actor |
| 10:51.23 | XenoX101 | then it has to check whether that unit is still being produced |
| 10:51.29 | XenoX101 | whether the producer is still alive |
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| 10:51.58 | XenoX101 | whether the queue has altered |
| 10:52.06 | XenoX101 | and then with hatcheries I have to search for eggs |
| 10:52.16 | XenoX101 | set them in an array then run the whole thing through them |
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| 10:52.39 | shadowwolf | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/374720741 my map is having that problem,does anyone know of a fix for this? |
| 10:52.44 | XenoX101 | well ok it isn't that complicated |
| 10:52.47 | XenoX101 | but it took forevre ;_; |
| 10:52.50 | XenoX101 | forever* |
| 10:56.38 | shadowwolf | yup its because of shaders... i set shaders from ultra to high and it was fine... |
| 10:56.48 | shadowwolf | wtf.. shaders on ultra break my whole map |
| 10:56.52 | shadowwolf | lol |
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| 10:59.06 | Kueken | I asleepen. |
| 11:00.08 | shadowwolf | holy shit, i just learned somthing |
| 11:00.18 | shadowwolf | Shaders ultra setting is BUGGY AS HELL!!!! |
| 11:00.29 | shadowwolf | its not just the minerals... |
| 11:00.37 | shadowwolf | they cant see nuke dots and a variety of other things... |
| 11:03.41 | shadowwolf | note for everyone, Put shaders on high... |
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| 11:13.55 | Kueken | heh |
| 11:14.04 | Kueken | my pc cannot handle ultra anyway |
| 11:15.32 | shadowwolf | mine cant either... it barely handles low most of the time |
| 11:40.48 | A1win | errm... any idea why my effect - instant ability is saying "target is out of range" when I try to use it with a burrowed perdition turret, although the same ability works just fine on another building that isn't burrowed? |
| 11:42.46 | A1win | I assume it's targeting itself with it somehow |
| 11:46.21 | A1win | and apparently it also works after I unburrow the turret |
| 11:52.17 | A1win | now it's saying must target unit when I increased the ability's range O_o |
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| 11:58.21 | A1win | it's not making any sense x_x |
| 12:01.44 | A1win | eeh now it started doing it in the other building too |
| 12:03.51 | A1win | and when I set "require target vision" back on, the other building started working, but the buried turret not |
| 12:08.45 | A1win | maybe it's trying to target the original unit or something? |
| 12:08.53 | A1win | the one it was before morphing >.< |
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| 12:21.44 | A1win | what's the proper way to create a dummy effect that doesn't require a target? |
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| 12:33.59 | A1win | mmh apparently it's not the morph that's causing the problem... |
| 12:38.14 | A1win | but what is x_x |
| 12:40.38 | A1win | fff |
| 12:40.46 | A1win | it was the empty footprint |
| 12:41.08 | A1win | I guess the unit doesn't properly get a center if its footprint doesn't have any unpassable areas in it |
| 12:41.42 | A1win | oh well I can just leave the collision on while it's burrowed |
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| 13:18.55 | ClayMuffin | Anybody baking cake? |
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| 13:24.34 | Kueken | why bother? Its a lie anyway. |
| 13:25.07 | A1win | light-brown color for fuel bars works fine :O http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/cc/Screenshot2011-11-04%2014_52_08.jpg |
| 13:28.12 | ClayMuffin | The cake is a lie? |
| 13:29.23 | ClayMuffin | A1... is it you or Vail that does that map featuring tons of ressource and an industry system? |
| 13:29.32 | A1win | me |
| 13:29.55 | ClayMuffin | Look great so far |
| 13:30.03 | ClayMuffin | see quite complicated though |
| 13:30.10 | ClayMuffin | seem's |
| 13:30.30 | A1win | yeah, I wanted it that way |
| 13:31.05 | ClayMuffin | Oh and is anybody aware of bug when linking apply behavior effects with a channeled periodic effect? |
| 13:31.33 | ClayMuffin | I can't make my ability that boost the production rate of an automated vespene refinery |
| 13:31.58 | ClayMuffin | can't make i work |
| 13:32.32 | ClayMuffin | seems the periodic effect is the problem |
| 13:32.42 | ClayMuffin | But my unit does channel it |
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| 14:13.12 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdhAr8h4OQ4 |
| 14:13.16 | Xaragoth | mind has been blown |
| 14:19.39 | ClayMuffin | this trailer is amazing |
| 14:19.47 | ClayMuffin | i like the meme references |
| 14:19.51 | ClayMuffin | XD |
| 14:22.06 | ClayMuffin | If you like sidescroller, check this review of castlevania 1 vs 2 |
| 14:22.07 | ClayMuffin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aip2aIt0ROM |
| 14:22.16 | ClayMuffin | I found this just soooo true... |
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| 14:25.44 | Sheo | Hello... |
| 14:26.39 | ClayMuffin | yo |
| 14:37.45 | Daara | and i was like |
| 14:37.46 | Daara | baby |
| 14:37.49 | Daara | baby |
| 14:37.50 | Daara | ruth |
| 14:53.17 | Xaragoth | hits Daara on the head. |
| 14:53.21 | Xaragoth | We do not say this word here. |
| 14:53.29 | Xaragoth | It reminds us of the horrible music of the outside world. |
| 14:53.44 | Daara | what word? |
| 14:53.44 | Xaragoth | the b one |
| 14:53.44 | Daara | i was eating a baby ruth |
| 14:55.19 | Kueken | you eat babies? |
| 14:55.29 | Daara | a steady diet of babies |
| 14:55.30 | Daara | yes |
| 14:55.43 | Kueken | got some recipes? |
| 14:56.22 | Daara | secret |
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| 15:51.35 | Aelia | Kueken: did you upload the latest thign i sent you? |
| 15:51.58 | Kueken | no, upload didn't work yet |
| 15:52.15 | Kueken | I could try again now |
| 15:52.35 | Kueken | why do you ask? |
| 15:54.29 | Aelia | people complaining baout something i fixed earlier |
| 15:54.47 | Aelia | wasnt sure if i sent you the fixed ver or not |
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| 16:05.16 | Vailreth | my cat is afraid of the vavume cleaner |
| 16:10.49 | Vailreth | http://www.thefump.com/fump.php?id=1366 |
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| 16:39.38 | Daara | i don't get why i time out so much on this |
| 16:54.00 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 16:54.18 | Vailreth | yo |
| 16:59.57 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
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| 17:07.34 | Daara | good morning |
| 17:08.16 | JademusSreg | Hi Daar. |
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| 17:18.26 | Vailreth | you... |
| 17:18.34 | Vailreth | you and that person ... |
| 17:18.46 | Vailreth | the two of you are resposible for this .. |
| 17:18.53 | Vailreth | for me doing that |
| 17:19.32 | Daara | doing what |
| 17:19.42 | Vailreth | because of the two of you i got Voxatron |
| 17:19.43 | Daara | making it multiplayer? :P |
| 17:20.17 | Daara | i don't know what voxatron is |
| 17:20.20 | Vailreth | i have a bit of a hurdel with making my campaign multiplayer |
| 17:20.33 | Vailreth | and i was talking to Jademus actually |
| 17:20.42 | Vailreth | atleast about that part |
| 17:20.54 | Vailreth | about the campaign i was talking to you Daara |
| 17:21.31 | Daara | what kind of hurdel? |
| 17:22.00 | Vailreth | i do not know if its possibel to restrict the playable map bounds to two diffrent regions for two diffrent players |
| 17:22.28 | Daara | hmm |
| 17:23.15 | Daara | didn't someone do it with a side scroller? |
| 17:23.21 | Vailreth | this Vs Campaign will have to be handled carefully.. |
| 17:24.23 | Daara | oh nvm i misread what you said |
| 17:24.27 | Daara | hmm |
| 17:24.51 | JademusSreg | Vail was refering to Mexa and I, refering to the evening we were discussing Voxatron. |
| 17:25.11 | Vailreth | yes you and mexa damn the both both of you and thanks |
| 17:25.53 | Vailreth | Voxatron is fun as heck |
| 17:26.04 | Vailreth | if you havent yet you need to get it |
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| 17:41.06 | Daara | not enough menergy |
| 17:41.31 | JademusSreg | That sounds homoerotic. =D |
| 17:42.56 | Daara | manergy? |
| 17:44.18 | JademusSreg | Yep. Sounds just as homoerotic as "man cave" and "football". |
| 17:44.28 | JademusSreg | Which is fine if you're into that sort of thing. |
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| 17:48.51 | Daara | lol |
| 17:52.57 | Daara | how would I add an arch to a missile |
| 17:53.00 | Daara | like arrows in wc3 |
| 17:53.10 | JademusSreg | Mover |
| 17:53.23 | Daara | the mover allows arch? |
| 17:53.23 | Daara | ok |
| 17:54.41 | Vailreth | i just thought of a weird multicompany cross over |
| 17:55.15 | Vailreth | konami's Castle Vania with Squenix and disneys Kindom Hearts .... |
| 17:55.15 | JademusSreg | Sounds like the premise for 2/3 of all fanfiction. |
| 17:56.09 | Vailreth | instead of writing fanfiction i render fractals |
| 17:56.14 | Vailreth | same wasted time |
| 17:56.19 | Vailreth | better restult |
| 17:56.42 | Aelia | i dont mean to brag but i think i have the coolest leaderboards of any sc2 map :D |
| 17:56.45 | JademusSreg | I dare say, much as I have disdain for fanfiction, that it is a better investment of time. |
| 17:57.01 | JademusSreg | Screenshot, Ael? |
| 17:57.06 | Vailreth | why so |
| 17:57.09 | Aelia | i cant screenshot though |
| 17:57.11 | Aelia | er |
| 17:57.12 | Vailreth | you dont like fractals |
| 17:57.13 | Aelia | just one |
| 17:57.15 | Aelia | theres like 10 |
| 17:57.42 | Aelia | i guess i could screenshot them all |
| 17:57.42 | Aelia | D: |
| 17:58.03 | JademusSreg | Generating a fractal has little or no artistic dimension. |
| 17:58.36 | Vailreth | the initial generation is chance i agree. |
| 17:59.22 | Vailreth | its what is done after that constitutes the art side a plain fractal is interesting but not art but when eztended upon |
| 18:00.33 | JademusSreg | Art is a dimension of an intentionally directed activity or artifact that implicitly expresses the value judgements (be they ethical, metaphysical, epistemological) of the creator(s), |
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| 18:06.50 | Shadowwolf | hmm |
| 18:06.53 | Shadowwolf | what to do what to do |
| 18:07.17 | JademusSreg | The extent to which a human has a hand in the generation of the fractal, configuring the expression, leaves questionable room for artistic dimension. The aesthetic qualities of the expression's product could be described as accidental. |
| 18:07.22 | Aelia | http://i.imgur.com/YBJuC.jpg |
| 18:07.47 | Shadowwolf | Nice |
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| 18:08.00 | Aelia | yes, well, id say that taking a part of a fractal and making it into a wallpaper or whatever |
| 18:08.08 | Aelia | as long as youre doing more than just coloring it one color |
| 18:08.09 | JademusSreg | Ael, It's pretty comprehensive. |
| 18:08.11 | Aelia | makes it art |
| 18:08.12 | Aelia | it is |
| 18:08.33 | Aelia | and they arent all over the place like some maps |
| 18:08.40 | Shadowwolf | everything is "art", hell the custom maps we make is art... |
| 18:08.58 | Shadowwolf | The half ass maps I make is art... not very good but it is art ... |
| 18:08.59 | Shadowwolf | lol |
| 18:09.22 | JademusSreg | For your benefit, I'll repeat myself. =D Art is a dimension of an intentionally directed activity or artifact that implicitly expresses the value judgements (be they ethical, metaphysical, epistemological) of the creator(s). |
| 18:09.30 | JademusSreg | It's an aspect of a thing, not a thing by itself. |
| 18:09.33 | Aelia | eh |
| 18:10.15 | A1win | I don't like the font on that UI |
| 18:10.15 | Aelia | http://www.fractal-wallpapers.com/bulkupload/wallpapers/Fractal%20Wallpapers/abstract-fractal-wallpaper.jpg |
| 18:10.31 | Aelia | the font looks better in game |
| 18:10.34 | Shadowwolf | im too awesome. |
| 18:10.42 | Aelia | sc2 kind of mangles the screenshots |
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| 18:11.11 | Shadowwolf | a1win, i still think you are a never sleeping bot :D |
| 18:11.24 | Shadowwolf | even I had to sleep for 5 hours |
| 18:11.27 | A1win | Aelia, I know the blurriness is because of jpg compression but it doesn't change the font |
| 18:11.37 | JademusSreg | Ael, what does that wallpaper demonstrate? =D |
| 18:11.52 | Aelia | JademusSreg: the way its put together is art :p |
| 18:12.04 | JademusSreg | Also, the fonts look fine for a vanilla leaderboard. |
| 18:12.14 | Aelia | its not something a fractal generator can generate off the bat |
| 18:12.16 | A1win | I slept for a couple of hours, sister brought her dog for me to watch for a while so can't sleep yet <.< |
| 18:12.16 | Shadowwolf | i dont even see a font lol... |
| 18:12.16 | JademusSreg | Ael, did I argue anything to the contrary? |
| 18:12.24 | Aelia | it seemed like you did |
| 18:12.32 | JademusSreg | You are mistaken. Haha |
| 18:12.37 | Aelia | i like vanilla leaderboards |
| 18:12.50 | JademusSreg | The fonts don't look blurry. |
| 18:12.51 | Aelia | the time ive spent with dialogs makes me sad |
| 18:14.05 | A1win | the font has too large symbols with too narrow lines |
| 18:14.28 | A1win | anyway it's probably just me =p |
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| 18:15.08 | Aelia | like i said |
| 18:15.12 | Aelia | it looks nicer in game |
| 18:15.38 | Shadowwolf | you need the pac man font |
| 18:15.42 | A1win | I tend to use bold fonts for labels of few words |
| 18:15.44 | Shadowwolf | :S |
| 18:17.06 | Shadowwolf | hmm i wonder how hard it would be to make a pacman based map. |
| 18:17.19 | A1win | mmh I need some other ways for SCVs to kill enemies than by building perdition turrets... something a bit more subtle and mobile |
| 18:17.29 | A1win | like.. a weapon, or an ability |
| 18:17.41 | Shadowwolf | give them psi storm lol |
| 18:17.46 | A1win | :P |
| 18:17.48 | Shadowwolf | but weaken it |
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| 18:18.10 | A1win | don't think it'd fit for the setting |
| 18:18.31 | Daara | lol my arrows shoot sideways |
| 18:18.35 | Daara | how i fix |
| 18:18.36 | Shadowwolf | anyone else think its wierd how the SCV is in a HUGE mech, yet hes the same size as a marine |
| 18:18.53 | Shadowwolf | or do they use small mechs with midgets? |
| 18:18.55 | A1win | marines are inside a huge armor |
| 18:19.11 | Shadowwolf | im still thinking smaller mechs with midgets |
| 18:19.19 | Daara | imagine if everything was the size it should be |
| 18:19.24 | Daara | the buildings would be enormous |
| 18:19.29 | A1win | but the unit scales aren't supposed to match each other anyway |
| 18:19.34 | Shadowwolf | yeah but when tychus was standin beside raynor he was like 4 inches taller :D, is raynor a giant |
| 18:19.35 | Shadowwolf | lol |
| 18:19.38 | Shadowwolf | i know |
| 18:19.39 | A1win | imagine how big the battle cruisers would have to be ;p |
| 18:19.41 | Shadowwolf | still fun to think about |
| 18:19.49 | Daara | bc's would be like 10x bigger |
| 18:19.53 | Daara | maybe 20x |
| 18:20.00 | Shadowwolf | Bca would be half the size ofthe map |
| 18:20.04 | Shadowwolf | BCs |
| 18:20.07 | Daara | pretty much |
| 18:20.13 | Shadowwolf | lol |
| 18:20.19 | Daara | vailreth: my arrows are shooting out sideways! what i do! |
| 18:20.27 | Shadowwolf | Well im thinkin a map needs to be made LOL |
| 18:20.48 | Vailreth | i dont know |
| 18:20.54 | Daara | ! |
| 18:21.11 | Daara | you think i could make it face the target? |
| 18:21.13 | Vailreth | are you using some sort of offset |
| 18:21.18 | Daara | no |
| 18:23.09 | Daara | i'm ganna try something else |
| 18:23.26 | Daara | export it as a wavefront obj. and edit it in 3ds opposed to just using it as an .m3 |
| 18:24.38 | Aelia | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/dunnlop/sc_scale.jpg |
| 18:24.51 | Shadowwolf | When i learn more about the game, im going to make a Jurrasic park map lol, and not one like the others... |
| 18:24.54 | Aelia | i had a much better image but |
| 18:24.56 | Aelia | i cant find it now |
| 18:25.05 | Daara | looks about right lol |
| 18:27.45 | A1win | maybe I should have building a proper sized battlecruiser as the objective in my map =o |
| 18:27.57 | A1win | or maybe not |
| 18:29.14 | A1win | damn, too tired to focus on planning |
| 18:30.13 | A1win | maybe the early combat gameplay could be about building strategic turrets and then kiting the enemies to the turrets if they manage to attack something that's still unprotected |
| 18:30.58 | A1win | just give them a simple AI to priorize the SCVs over the tech structures |
| 18:34.30 | Daara | arrows: done |
| 18:34.45 | Daara | and i forgot to add ref_targets to my footies |
| 18:34.48 | Daara | doh |
| 18:37.04 | Shadowwolf | ok my only goal for today is simply make 6 zerglings spawn and attack a base at a cetain time. |
| 18:37.47 | Daara | what kind of certain time? |
| 18:37.50 | Daara | like 5 minutes in? |
| 18:37.58 | Daara | after someone goes to a certain spot? |
| 18:38.14 | Daara | or have a zerg base build them and then send them to attack? |
| 18:42.11 | Shadowwolf | eh just spawned at a precise time |
| 18:42.41 | Shadowwolf | Thinking about making a Defense game, where you defend agianst 4 gats 6 pools, banshee rush cannon rush ETC |
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| 18:58.27 | Frostwind | hi |
| 19:03.29 | Frostwind | anyone wanna start a SC2 project with me? |
| 19:15.59 | Vailreth | hmm |
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| 19:30.13 | Vailreth | well this is strange |
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| 19:35.05 | spqr | hey guys, anyone know where banks are stored when you debug your map? |
| 19:37.26 | spqr | anyone? |
| 19:37.53 | Aelia | how would you guys like a 5000$ loan that you can pay off with 84 payments of 485$ |
| 19:39.30 | spqr | ! |
| 19:39.50 | spqr | student loan or what |
| 19:39.55 | spqr | no i dont even think those get that bad |
| 19:40.02 | Daara | so |
| 19:40.07 | Daara | basically get $5000 |
| 19:40.13 | Daara | and pay 40,000 in the long run |
| 19:40.18 | Daara | sounds fair |
| 19:40.39 | Daara | and balanced |
| 19:40.42 | Daara | like fox news |
| 19:40.45 | spqr | id do it if you could tell me where the Bank files for maps I test while NOT on bnet get saved |
| 19:40.53 | spqr | anything short of that |
| 19:40.56 | spqr | we'd have to negotiate |
| 19:41.07 | Aelia | http://www.westernsky.com/General/Rates.aspx |
| 19:41.16 | Aelia | uh |
| 19:41.22 | Aelia | mydocs/sc2/banks |
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| 19:41.33 | Aelia | money pls. |
| 19:41.38 | spqr | only online ones |
| 19:41.44 | Aelia | nope |
| 19:41.49 | spqr | i just cleared it out! |
| 19:41.56 | spqr | does the game store them in cache or something |
| 19:42.19 | Aelia | online ones go into accounts |
| 19:42.21 | spqr | nvm you win |
| 19:42.26 | spqr | i was in the other |
| 19:42.27 | spqr | banks |
| 19:42.36 | spqr | ok lemme have your routing number |
| 19:42.41 | spqr | i'll pay the 35k up front |
| 19:42.46 | Aelia | D: |
| 19:44.11 | Daara | wtf |
| 19:44.13 | Daara | that's such a rip off |
| 19:44.18 | Daara | who would even .... |
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| 19:47.10 | spqr | why do people apply for credit cards with 30% interest and not pay their bills? |
| 19:48.02 | Daara | stupidity |
| 19:48.34 | Daara | i have a relative who is a hoarder who has over 100k in credit card debt |
| 19:49.26 | Daara | and has no job |
| 19:49.44 | Daara | she'll die without ever paying the cc companies a dime |
| 19:50.53 | Vailreth | i cant wait to see some one using warp prisims to drop hydras on a terran base in some 2v2 |
| 19:50.55 | Vailreth | in Hots |
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| 19:56.14 | spqr | 200-300 for a hydra doesnt seem worth it =\ |
| 19:56.32 | spqr | i'd take some BL or ultra tho |
| 19:57.02 | Vailreth | i was thinking drone |
| 19:57.09 | spqr | oh |
| 19:57.26 | spqr | in sc2 i think you stay locked to your 200 supply tho |
| 19:57.32 | spqr | even with a second race |
| 19:57.37 | Vailreth | you do |
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| 19:59.12 | Frostwind | hi |
| 19:59.18 | Frostwind | anyone wanna start a SC2 project with me? |
| 20:02.07 | Vailreth | interesting |
| 20:02.20 | Vailreth | when a infested structure builds an addon |
| 20:02.31 | Vailreth | that addon belongs to the true owner of the structure |
| 20:02.56 | Vailreth | i assume its the same with upgrades |
| 20:04.27 | Daara | hmm |
| 20:06.36 | harl | gnabend |
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| 20:55.41 | Stewox | hi |
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| 22:34.59 | Daara | hmm |
| 22:35.33 | Daara | vailreth: do you think a wc3 dispel magic like ability is possible? |
| 22:35.48 | Daara | removing buffs off of units in aoe effect |
| 22:47.41 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 22:48.04 | Vailreth | that may be tedious to do |
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| 22:55.19 | Daara | i'm going to skip it for now |
| 22:56.10 | Daara | right now im doing the sorceresses auto-cast slow |
| 22:56.18 | Daara | what type of ability should that be |
| 22:56.21 | Daara | i have the behavior |
| 22:56.25 | Daara | and the effect |
| 22:58.13 | Daara | effect - target? |
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| 23:04.28 | Kueken | daara: sounds correct ;) |
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| 23:07.07 | Daara | what would be a good visual effect for slow |
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| 23:30.27 | Vailreth | i have no luck with women |
| 23:30.42 | Vailreth | if i can get one to date me she has WAY too much baggae |
| 23:30.48 | Vailreth | baggage* |
| 23:31.15 | Vailreth | and if not its because they like the other kinda girls that i like |
| 23:31.22 | Vailreth | gah... |
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| 23:48.50 | Daara | women are frustrating as hell |
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