| 00:07.10 | JademusSreg | Alright. Got it working, apparently. |
| 00:12.31 | JademusSreg | Oi, anyone know if the behavior remove field executes on period? |
| 00:17.21 | A1win | I think it executes as soon as the condition is met |
| 00:18.00 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 00:18.39 | JademusSreg | Says that it removes when the validator returns false, so I figure itm ust be polled in some fashion. |
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| 00:18.56 | JademusSreg | Or managed by the engine and it checks on some update or another. |
| 00:22.29 | Stewox | hello |
| 00:22.59 | Stewox | well |
| 00:23.04 | Stewox | i can safely say |
| 00:23.38 | Stewox | blizzard surprised me well and i really didn't expected they'll doing such a great expansion |
| 00:23.50 | Stewox | engine upgrades, gfx , ... it's great |
| 00:23.56 | Stewox | even DX11 |
| 00:24.12 | Stewox | really really great news |
| 00:24.24 | Stewox | that's a proper expansion , not just content |
| 00:25.20 | Stewox | that's what WOW suffers from, purely content doesn't cut it ... that doesn't work on PC. |
| 00:30.41 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 00:30.51 | JademusSreg | brb |
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| 01:08.50 | Vailreth | hello |
| 01:10.25 | JademusSreg | Hi Vail. |
| 01:12.49 | Stewox | so |
| 01:12.56 | Stewox | HotS not in 2011 ? |
| 01:13.10 | Stewox | march 2012 ? |
| 01:13.31 | Stewox | probably not january hmm ? |
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| 01:15.26 | b2zeldafreak | hi guys |
| 01:18.28 | JademusSreg | Hi zelda. |
| 01:19.45 | b2zeldafreak | I have an opinion question for anyone who's in here right now |
| 01:21.18 | Stewox | ask |
| 01:21.36 | b2zeldafreak | Well first, have you played Werewolf Transylvania in Warcraft 3? |
| 01:22.49 | b2zeldafreak | and if you have, In a Starcraft 2 version would you like to see a Medieval version with some new stuff, or a version based on the Agria colony from the campaign? |
| 01:23.14 | Stewox | that wouldn't be bad |
| 01:23.22 | Stewox | you mean assets ? |
| 01:23.24 | b2zeldafreak | Yeah |
| 01:23.27 | Stewox | models ,textures ? |
| 01:23.43 | b2zeldafreak | like one would be a close port of the Warcraft 3 version using WoW models and textures, but with some new mechanics |
| 01:23.53 | b2zeldafreak | Agria would be based on a rural farm colony setting |
| 01:25.03 | Stewox | you can upload that on assets page on sc2mapster - it would offer great stuff for other modders if you want that kind of support |
| 01:25.52 | b2zeldafreak | Yeah I'm pretty sure I can rip the WoW models. My other thought was to do another Warcraft 3 map-port first so that I would have more experience for Werewolf |
| 01:25.54 | Stewox | medieval or ww2 stuff would be interesting |
| 01:26.14 | Stewox | wait for the 3ds exporter ... |
| 01:26.29 | Stewox | might come sooner than HOTS |
| 01:26.40 | b2zeldafreak | Theres already some WoW models in the assets section, I used some Murlocs in a test map yesterday |
| 01:26.42 | Stewox | official exporter from blizz:D |
| 01:27.10 | b2zeldafreak | The community exporters work fine :P I used to do some model swapping in WoW |
| 01:27.24 | b2zeldafreak | I once changed the rabbit model to Onyxia |
| 01:30.13 | Stewox | doesn't work fully |
| 01:30.34 | b2zeldafreak | what doesn't work about it? from the small bit i tested it seemed to work fine? |
| 01:30.37 | b2zeldafreak | *fine |
| 01:30.52 | Stewox | it's just working so so and needs precise guidelines |
| 01:31.20 | b2zeldafreak | gotcha. I still think a Warcraft map is do-able with what is currently available |
| 01:31.32 | Stewox | watch the SChots: DOTA and Mods panel from blizzcon 2011 |
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| 01:31.51 | Stewox | you'll hear what the community exporter can't do |
| 01:32.01 | Stewox | i don't exactly recall now |
| 01:32.09 | b2zeldafreak | kk. thats on the mapster website right? |
| 01:32.29 | Stewox | other guys in here might know - im not a modeller - never worked with i |
| 01:32.32 | Stewox | it* |
| 01:33.03 | Stewox | no that videos on youtube |
| 01:33.11 | Stewox | watch it now it's not free from blizz |
| 01:33.25 | Stewox | it might get removed coz copyright |
| 01:34.03 | Stewox | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWymJSal9IM |
| 01:34.27 | b2zeldafreak | kk. So do you think I should work Medieval Werewolf, or SC2-ish WErewolf |
| 01:35.03 | Stewox | you might also watch SChots: art and technology panel, for engine updates that really seals the deal - great stuff coming |
| 01:35.08 | Stewox | look |
| 01:35.19 | Stewox | im currently ... about to go to bed |
| 01:35.23 | Stewox | ver sleepy |
| 01:35.25 | b2zeldafreak | haha ok |
| 01:35.29 | Stewox | 2 : 50 AM |
| 01:35.30 | b2zeldafreak | thanks for your help |
| 01:35.32 | Stewox | so ... |
| 01:35.36 | Stewox | europe here :p |
| 01:35.40 | Stewox | ask oher guys |
| 01:35.49 | Stewox | jademussreg or vailreth |
| 01:35.51 | b2zeldafreak | I'll probably just make a post on the forum |
| 01:36.00 | Stewox | or ask who has modeling experience |
| 01:36.09 | Stewox | chat in here and meet other guys out |
| 01:36.23 | Vailreth | greetings |
| 01:36.25 | Stewox | they're at work or asleep now -- different places , so keep checking |
| 01:36.33 | b2zeldafreak | yeah |
| 01:36.42 | Stewox | ok bye zzz |
| 01:36.46 | b2zeldafreak | cya |
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| 01:43.44 | A1win | how come some UI frames can't be hidden by using <Visible val="false" /> inside it? D: |
| 01:54.22 | Vailreth | i think some have to be turrned off by triggers or something |
| 01:54.37 | A1win | they are sub-frames of some frames |
| 01:54.49 | A1win | I can hide the unit wireframe of the info panel, but everything else just stays there |
| 01:56.00 | A1win | also I can hide BattleNetButtonFriendsFrameImage but I can't hide BattleNetButtonMicrophoneFrameImage |
| 01:56.10 | A1win | and those are defined identically in the layout files |
| 01:56.49 | A1win | mmh I'm not actually even sure if these files have changed after I've extracted them :E |
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| 02:25.20 | milkman | hi guys i was wondering if anyone knows why when i try to move my timer window it disappears completely and is completely making me want to shoot myself? |
| 02:28.09 | A1win | you're probably moving it off-screen |
| 02:29.36 | milkman | do you know what the coordinate limits are? |
| 02:29.43 | milkman | i really have no idea where to start |
| 02:30.29 | A1win | about 1600x1200 for 4:3, wider for wider aspect ratios... what anchor are you using and how? |
| 02:31.31 | milkman | how do you change the anchor? |
| 02:31.47 | A1win | mmh... I forgot how the timer window move thing works |
| 02:32.00 | A1win | oh |
| 02:32.04 | A1win | it doesn't have one >.< |
| 02:32.07 | A1win | that's odd |
| 02:32.34 | A1win | I haven't been using timer windows for ages because they're so limited |
| 02:32.40 | A1win | making a custom timer takes a bit more effor though |
| 02:32.57 | milkman | yeah its super annoying but i was only changing it by like 10 and 20 lol looks like i need to go much higher |
| 02:33.17 | A1win | it says "x coordinate corresponds to the right side of the window" |
| 02:33.34 | A1win | so if you set it to 10, only 10 pixels of the window will be visible at the left side of the screen |
| 02:33.49 | A1win | but without an anchor, you can move it only relative to the left side of the screen |
| 02:34.01 | milkman | all the time i've been wasting trying to figure this out i could've just made a dialog one by now lol |
| 02:34.02 | A1win | so don't try to move it to the right cause then it will bug with different aspect ratios >.> |
| 02:35.05 | A1win | JademusSreg, any ideas how to display selected unit name and how much it has one type of resource in it (type shown probably as an icon and/or name) in this UI: http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/cc/Screenshot2011-10-31%2004_29_42.jpg |
| 02:35.34 | A1win | I added that little "title bar" above command card but I don't know what I'm actually doing with it, the info doesn't even fit in it properly |
| 02:35.56 | A1win | I still need to show the cargo too, can't figure out how to make it better |
| 02:37.03 | A1win | the most important function of the cargo display is to inform the player when he can't fit any more resources into his SCV and must return them to the CC |
| 02:38.18 | A1win | and it should be obvious that it has a tooltip, so some kind of an icon or "passive button" might be nice... |
| 02:39.07 | A1win | maybe the percentage text can be so small that it fits inside the icon at its bottom o: |
| 02:39.20 | A1win | then just color it red when it's full, or something |
| 02:40.01 | Dustin | supp |
| 02:40.03 | JademusSreg | How many different types of cargo can an SCV carry? |
| 02:40.12 | milkman | thanks for your help a1win i got it to show up at least lol |
| 02:40.16 | JademusSreg | Simultaneously? |
| 02:40.34 | A1win | JademusSreg, a lot, but those are just shown in the tooltip |
| 02:41.17 | A1win | like this: http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/cc/Screenshot2011-10-31%2000_56_50.jpg |
| 02:42.04 | A1win | I'll try the icon thing, I have a vision... |
| 02:46.37 | milkman | i've decided to just make a dialog one this is too annoying and even if i get it in the right position its going to be different for everyone else |
| 02:51.06 | JademusSreg | Pretty clever, A1. |
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| 02:53.37 | Dustin | Alright |
| 02:53.46 | Dustin | Time to setup my program as a server/client method |
| 03:05.04 | Frostwind | is so bored |
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| 03:29.00 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/cc/Screenshot2011-10-31%2005_28_25.jpg |
| 03:29.02 | A1win | damn that took long |
| 03:29.07 | A1win | but it's nice D: |
| 03:33.31 | JademusSreg | Wrong emote. =D |
| 03:33.36 | Frostwind | :( |
| 03:33.36 | ________________ | iLike it Alwin |
| 03:33.45 | ________________ | A1win |
| 03:34.25 | A1win | the command card is 7+8 buttons, cancel goes to that corner spot below the cargo icon |
| 03:34.57 | ________________ | Looks very nice |
| 03:35.31 | A1win | too bad I need to update selected unit's name with triggers, will have a little lag |
| 03:36.39 | JademusSreg | Only about ~250ms, minimum, =D |
| 03:37.09 | JademusSreg | Why update the name via trigger though? |
| 03:38.26 | A1win | I couldn't get rid of the extra stuff from the info panel |
| 03:38.45 | A1win | but I suppose there's a way... |
| 03:38.57 | A1win | maybe moving them off-frame |
| 03:39.17 | JademusSreg | Visible = "false" |
| 03:39.20 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 03:39.30 | A1win | I tried that, it only worked for the wireframe thing |
| 03:39.33 | A1win | rest didn't disappear D: |
| 03:39.37 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 03:39.55 | ________________ | is there a timeframe from blizz on the market? |
| 03:39.57 | JademusSreg | Odd. |
| 03:40.12 | A1win | well I might have done it wrong somehow |
| 03:40.19 | JademusSreg | Sometime after the arcade is implemented. |
| 03:40.29 | ________________ | and is there a timeframe on that? |
| 03:40.38 | JademusSreg | Sometime around HotS. |
| 03:40.43 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 03:40.47 | ________________ | ic ic |
| 03:40.50 | JademusSreg | And the Arcade is a global feature, fortunately. |
| 03:40.53 | ________________ | then i should finish my map soon so i can make a market map |
| 03:41.44 | JademusSreg | I expect the Arcade release to coincide with the HotS beta. |
| 03:41.54 | ________________ | the beta? wow |
| 03:41.56 | ________________ | so soon |
| 03:41.58 | ________________ | D: |
| 03:42.51 | A1win | oh right I still need to display the amount of resources on a selected unit (other than the SCV), like how much resouces a refinery has gathered |
| 03:44.52 | A1win | maybe a resource icon to the left side of the title pane and text next to it with smallish font |
| 03:45.00 | A1win | text = amount in numbers |
| 03:45.18 | A1win | and justify the name centered and shifted a bit to right |
| 03:45.52 | A1win | ah well I need to update the resource amount with triggers anyway so might just as well do that for the name too |
| 03:45.53 | ________________ | hmm hmmm |
| 03:46.44 | A1win | bah not sure if the resource amount is good to put to the title pane |
| 03:48.15 | JademusSreg | Tactical asset capture is coming along nicely. |
| 03:48.47 | A1win | hmm... |
| 03:48.58 | A1win | I could just put the resource amount into that cargo thingy |
| 03:49.06 | A1win | when something else than the SCV is selected |
| 03:49.45 | Vailreth | i need a good name for an upgrade to iHyrdalisk movement.. |
| 03:50.22 | ________________ | OH! I THINK I GOT IT |
| 03:50.24 | ________________ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:50.49 | ________________ | 2 bad i cant test since im in game |
| 03:50.50 | JademusSreg | iPlod |
| 03:50.56 | ________________ | i wish i could run 2 instances of SC II |
| 03:53.13 | JademusSreg | Or, if you want a more serious suggestuin, how about Ambulatory Cilia? |
| 03:53.24 | A1win | ouch, my editor went nuts... ran out of memory or something |
| 03:53.41 | JademusSreg | *suggestion |
| 03:54.33 | JademusSreg | Think of Ambulatory Cilia operating on the same basic principle as snake and land-borne mollusk movement. |
| 03:55.39 | ________________ | wait nvm, i think my idea fails |
| 03:55.51 | JademusSreg | Waves of muscle contractions go across the length of the body and move the creature along. In the case of the Hydralisk, patches of ambulatory cilia on the underside would assist it in movement. |
| 03:55.54 | ________________ | the attack order doesnt finish until the unit is dead huh? |
| 03:57.33 | Frostwind | is so bored |
| 03:57.34 | Vailreth | i was thinking along those lines but was also thinking something like Neo-tractive Something |
| 03:59.02 | JademusSreg | Sounds like a terran way to name something. |
| 03:59.21 | Vailreth | possibly |
| 03:59.59 | Vailreth | once i have the idea formed i can come up with a more zerg ish name |
| 04:01.08 | Vailreth | what part of its body would you say it uses for locomotions? tail? |
| 04:01.18 | JademusSreg | But if you don't like cilia and would prefer your terran-sounding name, make that Something into a kind of growth, like a wart. If you're going to increase traction with a rough material, may as well make it something that would constantly regrow. |
| 04:01.21 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 04:01.36 | JademusSreg | It uses muscular contractions in its tail, I expect. |
| 04:01.44 | Vailreth | yeah. |
| 04:02.27 | Vailreth | i like the name you offered and will likely use it if i cant zergify my own idea suffecientlt |
| 04:03.00 | JademusSreg | It also has spines on the tail that it uses for traction. |
| 04:03.28 | Vailreth | yes i was trying to work with those for the name of the upgrade as well |
| 04:10.31 | JademusSreg | http://kotaku.com/5854660/watch-the-first-23-minutes-of-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-right-here/gallery/1 |
| 04:10.35 | JademusSreg | pew pew |
| 04:11.31 | ________________ | so y is this game so popular? |
| 04:11.40 | Vailreth | oh i must note that your Zit Drop i belive you called it has eveloved into an ability that spawns a strain of creep tumor called called fungal cysts that explode and and fugal growth nearby enmies, for the moment. |
| 04:12.12 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
| 04:12.26 | JademusSreg | I've never played any Elder Scrolls game. |
| 04:12.31 | JademusSreg | So I'm curious. |
| 04:12.53 | Vailreth | i havent played one as far as i can recall |
| 04:14.03 | ________________ | whats the best way to cancel an attack order once the hit connects? |
| 04:14.28 | Vailreth | no clue |
| 04:15.21 | JademusSreg | Drop a nuke on em. Cancels their orders forever. |
| 04:15.34 | ________________ | but i need them alive =\ |
| 04:15.51 | ________________ | im trying to create a chain of melee attacks that all hit a different target |
| 04:16.05 | Vailreth | hm |
| 04:16.08 | JademusSreg | Use abilities instead of weapons. |
| 04:16.24 | ________________ | lame |
| 04:16.25 | ________________ | do i have to? |
| 04:16.26 | JademusSreg | So no autoacquisition to mess things up. |
| 04:16.37 | ________________ | =\ fine fine |
| 04:16.49 | ________________ | i thot i could keep it simple and just use the default attack order |
| 04:16.53 | ________________ | but do some fun tricks with it |
| 04:16.57 | ________________ | guess not D: |
| 04:17.19 | JademusSreg | You don't have to I expect, but autoacquisition of targets is lame, especially in the sort of game that features combo moves. =D |
| 04:17.52 | ________________ | ;D |
| 04:23.53 | Vailreth | things are starting for feel like they are moving in slow motion |
| 04:23.56 | A1win | fffff |
| 04:24.11 | A1win | I've anchored the frames wrong D: |
| 04:24.18 | Vailreth | ack |
| 04:24.40 | A1win | but I have no idea why :| |
| 04:25.33 | A1win | on narrower aspect ratios, the command card background frames move to the left, but their left side is anchored to mid of the parent |
| 04:26.16 | A1win | or are they? <Anchor side="Left" relative="$parent" pos="Mid" offset="-1046"/> |
| 04:26.45 | A1win | err |
| 04:27.54 | A1win | now the resource icon frame spreads towards both sides of the screen when I widen the screen |
| 04:29.02 | A1win | gahh |
| 04:29.05 | A1win | makes no sense |
| 04:30.34 | A1win | unless the command UI actually changes size or position... |
| 04:36.55 | A1win | well that was easier than I expected... with some luck |
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| 05:08.34 | A1win | had to do some refactoring but it works now :O http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/cc/Screenshot2011-10-31%2007_07_31.jpg |
| 05:08.39 | A1win | and needs custom icons :P |
| 05:09.27 | A1win | hmm would white be a good color for the "how much resources this building has available" bar (orange atm) |
| 05:09.45 | A1win | all the resource labels are white, so it could fit |
| 05:10.32 | A1win | "how much fuel left" is electric blue, since it also tells how long it can still generate power |
| 05:11.12 | A1win | and I won't have cargo bars so it's fine |
| 05:11.40 | A1win | perfect |
| 05:14.02 | XenoX101 | btw guys |
| 05:14.08 | XenoX101 | just remember |
| 05:14.11 | XenoX101 | er |
| 05:14.14 | XenoX101 | a suggestion |
| 05:14.23 | XenoX101 | really really try not to edit data to test things unles you have to |
| 05:14.31 | XenoX101 | because it will kick you in the butt when you forget to change those things back |
| 05:14.42 | XenoX101 | and you will forget |
| 05:14.46 | XenoX101 | at some point |
| 05:19.18 | A1win | uff day's work done, 7 am >_> |
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| 05:43.04 | JademusSreg | Wat Xeno? |
| 05:43.25 | XenoX101 | dont make temporary changes you'll forget ;) |
| 05:43.39 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 05:43.48 | JademusSreg | I don't think I have that problem. =D |
| 05:44.37 | XenoX101 | I did :( |
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| 06:02.46 | Dustin | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/843426/SC2BankManagerss.png |
| 06:03.48 | JademusSreg | Nice/ |
| 06:05.41 | soulcarver | what exactly is that for? |
| 06:12.39 | Dustin | Syncs bank files with a server that then syncs the data with an SQL database |
| 06:12.57 | Dustin | So you can access sc2 map bank values on a webpage in real time |
| 06:38.29 | ________________ | I always forget a unit can't use an ability it doesnt have |
| 06:38.29 | ________________ | D: |
| 06:49.42 | XenoX101 | hey uh |
| 06:49.45 | XenoX101 | has anyone ever had it where |
| 06:49.51 | XenoX101 | the wrong ability is showing up? |
| 06:49.55 | XenoX101 | with the wrong command card? |
| 07:17.10 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 07:17.23 | Sixen | XenoX, did you post your HotS project on Mapster anywhere? :X |
| 07:21.06 | Dustin | Hell ya, got my shit working with a client/server setup |
| 07:23.00 | JademusSreg | Time for sleep. |
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| 07:39.43 | XenoX101 | I didn't Sixen, I was so tired |
| 07:39.48 | XenoX101 | had not slept for 36 hours |
| 07:40.01 | XenoX101 | if you'd like you can make a template for me |
| 07:40.05 | XenoX101 | :) |
| 07:40.27 | XenoX101 | I could just copy paste from TL but |
| 07:40.30 | XenoX101 | meh |
| 07:42.46 | XenoX101 | alright I'll write up something quick |
| 07:45.03 | Helral|Work | meow? |
| 07:45.43 | ________________ | Oh no, did this http://tinyurl.com/6eauwr8 happen to you helral???? |
| 07:46.05 | Helral|Work | is it SFW? |
| 07:46.19 | ________________ | sfw? |
| 07:46.29 | Helral|Work | Safe For Work |
| 07:46.32 | ________________ | ya |
| 07:46.34 | ________________ | lol |
| 07:46.57 | Helral|Work | nope |
| 07:47.01 | ________________ | phew |
| 07:47.03 | Helral|Work | I didn't drink a magical potion. |
| 07:47.13 | Helral|Work | I can read and write english, just can't speak it |
| 07:47.27 | ________________ | but you're still a cat that can write?!?!?!? |
| 07:47.30 | Helral|Work | when I try to all you will hear is "meow" |
| 07:47.50 | ________________ | My whole world is flipped upside down |
| 07:48.20 | Helral|Work | that's normal isn't it? |
| 07:48.41 | ________________ | NO! |
| 07:49.07 | ________________ | I find it annoying that the editor likes to minimize itself when I test my map |
| 07:50.51 | Dustin | Anyone got like 20 minutes to help test my program? |
| 07:51.11 | ________________ | watd do i have 2 do? |
| 07:52.05 | Dustin | Download and run my program and help me make sure it works over the internet |
| 07:52.13 | ________________ | mmk |
| 07:54.24 | Helral|Work | ________________: it is still normal for the editor to minimize itself, since it has never stayed visible on map testing. |
| 07:54.42 | Dustin | Are you NA? |
| 07:55.23 | ________________ | guess thats true, since not many ppl need the editor visible while testing (cept me >: O) |
| 07:55.26 | ________________ | ya im NA |
| 07:56.17 | Helral|Work | I'm N/A ;p |
| 07:56.30 | ________________ | :p |
| 07:56.32 | Dustin | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/843426/SC2BankManagerClient/SC2BankManagerClient.zip |
| 07:56.41 | ________________ | hax |
| 07:56.50 | Dustin | Just make a new folder and extract it |
| 07:57.07 | ________________ | mk |
| 07:57.22 | Sixen | XenoX101: <3, I want to news it :P |
| 07:57.43 | Helral|Work | Sixen: news what? I missed it |
| 07:57.45 | ________________ | do it so i can know what you're talking about |
| 07:57.52 | Dustin | then after you have the program we'll have to figure out your bnet bank folder location |
| 07:58.03 | Sixen | Xeno did a project showing off the new HotS units |
| 07:58.04 | ________________ | ya i have it |
| 07:58.07 | Sixen | And changes n' stuff |
| 07:58.10 | Helral|Work | ahhhh nice :) |
| 07:58.41 | Dustin | k, there's a config.deploy file in the application files folder |
| 07:58.42 | XenoX101 | I feel bad for the people who worked on their own versions |
| 07:58.45 | XenoX101 | I wanted to say something but |
| 07:58.46 | Helral|Work | any info on the editor changes also there? |
| 07:58.52 | XenoX101 | that would've come across as rude |
| 07:59.05 | XenoX101 | so I just released it as soon as I could |
| 07:59.19 | Dustin | That youll need to edit once you get the bank created |
| 07:59.29 | ________________ | mk |
| 07:59.51 | Helral|Work | I had to take a detour to work this morning :( work on the road :( |
| 07:59.52 | Dustin | Hop on bnet and add Dustin.374 when you're ready :) |
| 08:00.07 | ________________ | what channel r u in |
| 08:00.21 | Dustin | join sc2mapster |
| 08:00.33 | XenoX101 | oh and Sixen |
| 08:00.41 | XenoX101 | you're of course welcome to post about my HotS map |
| 08:00.51 | Sixen | ;) |
| 08:00.52 | XenoX101 | if you feel so inclined that is |
| 08:00.54 | XenoX101 | ;p |
| 08:01.07 | XenoX101 | its still got a lot of work left to do |
| 08:01.08 | XenoX101 | in bug fixing |
| 08:01.15 | XenoX101 | but I'm really happy with how its come along |
| 08:01.27 | XenoX101 | things I didnt think I could do |
| 08:01.29 | XenoX101 | managed to work |
| 08:01.50 | XenoX101 | even if the solution was a little bit.. left of field |
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| 08:02.28 | ________________ | 1-s2-1-1565976 |
| 08:06.52 | Dustin | ____ |
| 08:06.55 | Dustin | Edit that file |
| 08:07.00 | Dustin | so we can test the program |
| 08:07.11 | ________________ | i put that number in there |
| 08:07.12 | ________________ | ? |
| 08:07.17 | Dustin | no |
| 08:07.22 | Dustin | Its the bank path |
| 08:07.45 | Dustin | C:\Users\Dustin\Documents\StarCraft II\Accounts\86482\1-S2-1-317968\Banks\1-S2-1 |
| 08:07.45 | ________________ | so wheres the bank file? |
| 08:07.47 | Dustin | Itll look like that |
| 08:07.48 | ________________ | ah ic |
| 08:07.54 | ________________ | mmk |
| 08:07.55 | Dustin | but replace my username with yours |
| 08:08.01 | Dustin | and the account number is prob different |
| 08:08.58 | ________________ | o mk im in that folder |
| 08:09.17 | ________________ | now theres 1289371289371829317 folders in there |
| 08:09.17 | Dustin | does it have Bomberling.SC2Bank in it? |
| 08:09.23 | Dustin | ok ya |
| 08:09.51 | Dustin | 1-S2-1-317968 |
| 08:09.54 | Dustin | thats my id |
| 08:09.56 | Dustin | Go to that folder |
| 08:10.13 | Dustin | and that folder path is was you need to change in the file |
| 08:10.39 | ________________ | lol k |
| 08:10.43 | Dustin | lol |
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| 08:11.18 | ________________ | so i just switch them or what? |
| 08:11.22 | Dustin | ya |
| 08:11.25 | Dustin | replace the old one |
| 08:11.28 | Dustin | with yours |
| 08:12.15 | Mexa | Arf |
| 08:12.18 | Mexa | Mornin' |
| 08:12.27 | Dustin | hii |
| 08:12.30 | ________________ | wait where was the "old 1" suposd 2 b? |
| 08:12.45 | Dustin | The folder you extracted to |
| 08:12.52 | Dustin | go into Application Files |
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| 08:12.58 | ________________ | oh i getchu |
| 08:13.02 | ________________ | write in that other thing |
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| 08:13.24 | Dustin | And it's the SC2BankManagerClient.exe.config.deploy |
| 08:14.44 | ________________ | mmk now wa |
| 08:14.45 | ________________ | t |
| 08:14.50 | Dustin | now run the program |
| 08:14.58 | Dustin | from that folder you extracted to |
| 08:15.03 | ________________ | mk |
| 08:15.40 | ________________ | cannot dl the app, the app is missing req'd files |
| 08:15.46 | Dustin | hmmm |
| 08:16.09 | ________________ | nvm |
| 08:16.12 | ________________ | now its working |
| 08:16.25 | Dustin | woot |
| 08:16.29 | Dustin | Is it doing anything |
| 08:16.32 | ________________ | o gross |
| 08:16.39 | ________________ | i thot i had .net 4 already |
| 08:16.45 | ________________ | this could take a while =\ |
| 08:17.03 | Dustin | Ahh yeah you need .net |
| 08:17.15 | ________________ | its installing atm |
| 08:17.21 | Dustin | kk |
| 08:17.48 | Dustin | This will all be alot more automated when im done |
| 08:18.07 | Dustin | Where you just pop open a file picker dialog to select the bank and shit |
| 08:18.31 | ________________ | watd u write this n? |
| 08:18.40 | Dustin | C# |
| 08:18.48 | ________________ | oic |
| 08:18.59 | Mexa | What's that Dustin? |
| 08:19.06 | Dustin | My Bank manager |
| 08:19.20 | ________________ | zz it wants me 2 install mysql first |
| 08:19.26 | Mexa | So with further elaboration, what does it do? |
| 08:19.28 | ________________ | *goes on tha net* |
| 08:19.30 | Dustin | Reads in bank files and connects to a server that takes the data and sets it to an sql database |
| 08:19.32 | Mexa | I obviously get it manages banks |
| 08:19.42 | Mexa | Ah |
| 08:19.49 | Dustin | Its making you install mysql? |
| 08:19.58 | ________________ | ya |
| 08:20.04 | ________________ | .net stopped |
| 08:20.04 | Mexa | So, kind of a serverside uplink to save banks? |
| 08:20.10 | ________________ | and now it wants me 2 get mysql |
| 08:20.21 | Dustin | thats stupid |
| 08:20.40 | Dustin | Ya mexa, basically it will allow me to read in data from a sc2map in realtime on a website |
| 08:20.57 | Dustin | So i can have an item market online and buying it with ingame munies |
| 08:21.07 | Dustin | and all sorts of cool shit |
| 08:21.18 | Mexa | Isn't it manipulable? |
| 08:21.27 | ________________ | everything is hackable |
| 08:21.34 | Dustin | to a certain extent |
| 08:22.06 | Mexa | Ofcourse it is, but the likelyness that the server should be hacked is low |
| 08:22.30 | Mexa | So I was rather considering if it was manipulable or if the server has some sort of authorization |
| 08:22.35 | Dustin | But im going to encrypt the data in the bank into a string and then deencrypt it on the server to make sure data was only written from SC2 |
| 08:23.06 | Mexa | RSA, I'd imagine? |
| 08:23.18 | Mexa | with* |
| 08:23.26 | Dustin | probably |
| 08:23.52 | ________________ | mexa that's what I was talking about by hackable |
| 08:23.56 | ________________ | i didnt mean takeover |
| 08:24.03 | ________________ | i meant sqlinjection to manipulate data |
| 08:24.14 | Dustin | that wont be a problem |
| 08:24.19 | Mexa | Good security would not rely on such issues |
| 08:24.40 | ________________ | and you're protected against advanced sql injection also? |
| 08:24.58 | Dustin | sql injection is easy to get rid of |
| 08:25.11 | ________________ | completely? no |
| 08:25.16 | Dustin | yeah |
| 08:25.24 | ________________ | you can do the "dont allow / +. etc." thing |
| 08:25.30 | ________________ | but that doesnt block all injection |
| 08:26.01 | Mexa | reformatting the string before it is sent to the database should solve it. |
| 08:26.06 | ________________ | boring, sql is still dling |
| 08:26.28 | ________________ | reformatting the string? |
| 08:26.30 | ________________ | wat do u mean |
| 08:26.53 | Mexa | So that it may not cause query and errors. |
| 08:27.15 | ________________ | so theres a middle man talking to the server? the website interface won't talk directly to it? |
| 08:27.36 | Mexa | a php script, for instance? |
| 08:27.40 | ________________ | yes |
| 08:28.00 | ________________ | most sites are just bare |
| 08:28.09 | Mexa | Well, there you go then:P |
| 08:28.10 | ________________ | any input box talks straight to their server |
| 08:28.29 | ________________ | im interested in the reformatting thing tho |
| 08:28.42 | ________________ | how would u play with the string to block baddies? |
| 08:29.00 | ________________ | finally, sql is installing |
| 08:29.03 | Mexa | I don't really know the technical details of that, only what I found theoretically logical. |
| 08:29.13 | ________________ | i meant dustin lol |
| 08:30.05 | Mexa | A string in base64 format |
| 08:30.12 | Mexa | That's one way |
| 08:30.32 | ________________ | easily reversable if they know thats what you're doing, next option |
| 08:31.25 | Mexa | I meant that base64 will negate sqlinjection |
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| 08:31.52 | Mexa | you wont be able to send anything like "SELECT* WHERE" or whatever |
| 08:33.13 | Mexa | Meh I shouldn't babble about it tho, I don't think I have any good idea about it:P |
| 08:33.21 | ________________ | wtf not .net wont install |
| 08:33.30 | ________________ | now* |
| 08:34.06 | ________________ | lame, ill try restarting |
| 08:34.08 | ________________ | brb |
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| 10:32.27 | Aelia | gem td has almost 2000 posts on its forums |
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| 11:02.23 | Syltman | how do I export sc2 assets like textures? |
| 11:03.59 | Mexa | With an mpq editor. |
| 11:04.02 | Mexa | *a |
| 11:05.24 | Syltman | aye ty |
| 11:05.50 | Aelia | uh |
| 11:05.59 | Aelia | you can do so in the sc2 editor |
| 11:06.06 | Aelia | right click on the asset, click export |
| 11:06.18 | Aelia | it only works in the data editor |
| 11:07.07 | Mexa | Too painfully slow to do it there, though |
| 11:08.01 | Aelia | well |
| 11:08.07 | Aelia | depends how many assets youre talking |
| 11:08.12 | Aelia | for one texture its just fine |
| 11:08.23 | Mexa | I still think it takes too long time |
| 11:08.37 | Aelia | nah |
| 11:08.44 | Mexa | Also, the editor is retardly slow performancewise, that's the main issue |
| 11:08.52 | Aelia | its not that bad for me |
| 11:09.09 | Mexa | And that it's not even multithreaded makes it worse |
| 11:09.47 | Mexa | So anyways, I rather get a mpq editor which can extract several assets at once. |
| 11:10.09 | Syltman | aye well I got a mpq editor |
| 11:17.25 | Syltman | xml editing is like super laggy ironicly |
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| 11:52.04 | XenoX101 | hey |
| 11:52.11 | XenoX101 | how can I set a gamelink variable to nothing |
| 11:52.15 | XenoX101 | and not have trigger cack out |
| 11:56.33 | Kueken | what do you mean by crack out? |
| 11:56.50 | Kueken | a gamelink variable is set to null by default |
| 11:58.11 | XenoX101 | nvm |
| 11:58.15 | XenoX101 | yeah I figured |
| 11:58.21 | XenoX101 | its all good I got a better way |
| 11:59.44 | XenoX101 | is there any way to change an action |
| 11:59.48 | XenoX101 | to a very similar action definition |
| 11:59.52 | XenoX101 | without losing your values? |
| 12:00.13 | XenoX101 | as in the existing matching paramaters dont get destroyed? |
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| 12:21.48 | Mexa | hmm |
| 12:22.36 | Kueken | xeno: use galaxy script xD |
| 12:22.55 | XenoX101 | mm |
| 12:23.07 | XenoX101 | sadly I'm already infused with |
| 12:23.09 | XenoX101 | the editor as it is |
| 12:23.18 | XenoX101 | its like an extension of my body |
| 12:23.19 | Kueken | well |
| 12:23.25 | XenoX101 | a limb that I treat carefully |
| 12:23.28 | XenoX101 | and tenderly |
| 12:23.28 | Kueken | I dont know if it is possible in gui |
| 12:23.43 | XenoX101 | I could almost write poems about the editor |
| 12:23.46 | Kueken | in script, you wont lose any parameters or whatever |
| 12:23.49 | XenoX101 | but that would be a little creepy ;) |
| 12:23.54 | Kueken | you could try making a wrapper |
| 12:24.00 | Kueken | like |
| 12:24.02 | XenoX101 | nah its cool |
| 12:24.04 | XenoX101 | I figured it out |
| 12:24.06 | XenoX101 | eons ago XD |
| 12:24.18 | Kueken | :P |
| 12:24.26 | Kueken | your eons are about 20 minutes? ;) |
| 12:25.06 | XenoX101 | maybe ;p |
| 12:26.22 | Ravonus | good morning |
| 12:27.18 | Aelia | you cant do that, sorry xeno |
| 12:27.27 | XenoX101 | np I figured as much |
| 12:27.30 | XenoX101 | kinda retarded but |
| 12:27.31 | XenoX101 | meh |
| 12:27.47 | XenoX101 | if it was that important you'd just edit script I guess |
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| 12:52.27 | Mexa_ | test |
| 12:53.22 | b2zeldafreak | A+ |
| 12:55.45 | Mexa_ | So, apparantly my computer don't want to crash now when I want it to |
| 12:55.47 | Mexa_ | ._. |
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| 12:57.22 | b2zeldafreak | you're trying to crash it? |
| 12:57.51 | Mexa_ | Yes, I'm trying to reproduce the crashes have constantly been getting before. |
| 12:58.28 | Mexa_ | But no, ofcourse it doesn't crash, now when I try to analyse and watch the event logger and all.. |
| 12:59.08 | b2zeldafreak | Intermittent problems are the worst! |
| 12:59.22 | b2zeldafreak | I hate when you try to show someone but it wont work when they're watching |
| 12:59.47 | b2zeldafreak | or it won't break while they're watchin xP |
| 13:18.24 | XenoX101 | oh its beautiful |
| 13:18.26 | XenoX101 | yes that feeling when |
| 13:18.29 | XenoX101 | your trigger works the first time |
| 13:18.36 | XenoX101 | you try it |
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| 14:31.48 | XenoX101 | hey does renaming data en masse |
| 14:31.51 | XenoX101 | have consequences? |
| 14:32.01 | XenoX101 | I think I remember renaming abilities messed up actors |
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| 14:52.39 | Kueken | xeno: not at all |
| 14:52.58 | Kueken | changing the ID might have, but most links should remain |
| 14:53.19 | Kueken | some data objects have issues with this, though, for example actor site operations or textures |
| 14:59.23 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 15:00.29 | Kueken | my god |
| 15:00.37 | Kueken | dont scare ne like that |
| 15:00.42 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 15:01.18 | XenoX101 | I alwayus know I'm up to late |
| 15:01.20 | XenoX101 | when I hear you say that |
| 15:01.35 | JademusSreg | Haha, you're still here. =D |
| 15:01.43 | Kueken | hm |
| 15:01.59 | Kueken | 16.00 hereo |
| 15:02.15 | Kueken | one of you just woke up, the other one is up too late |
| 15:02.32 | Kueken | well, I guess, you don't live nearby :D |
| 15:02.58 | Kueken | or you have an unusual day/night rythm o_0 |
| 15:02.59 | JademusSreg | I decided that I would like to implement acheivements in my map, and also underacheivements. |
| 15:03.40 | Kueken | if you dont call them acheivements in the map, fine with me ;) |
| 15:04.01 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 15:04.21 | JademusSreg | Can't expect me to spell perfectly all the time. |
| 15:04.29 | JademusSreg | Achievements. =D |
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| 15:04.41 | Kueken | well, at least it was a consistent misspell ;) |
| 15:05.23 | Kueken | and if I look over my past few messages... I shouldn't comment any further xD |
| 15:05.44 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
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| 15:06.00 | Kueken | you like to do that, don't you? |
| 15:08.02 | JademusSreg | Laugh? Yes. I'm like The Joker, or Anansi. |
| 15:09.48 | XenoX101 | ack |
| 15:09.52 | XenoX101 | I broke my tentacle >< |
| 15:09.56 | XenoX101 | fuuuu |
| 15:10.00 | Kueken | ouch |
| 15:10.10 | Kueken | one could understand that the wrong way |
| 15:10.14 | JademusSreg | That's what you get for sticking it in there. |
| 15:10.21 | XenoX101 | I have no idea how to fix this >< |
| 15:10.27 | Kueken | ducktape |
| 15:13.22 | XenoX101 | I know what I'll do |
| 15:13.27 | XenoX101 | I'll copy it from my old map |
| 15:13.33 | XenoX101 | and then just leave the names as is |
| 15:13.38 | XenoX101 | maybe change one at a time |
| 15:15.23 | Kueken | you can change the names as much as you want, if you dont touch the id |
| 15:16.04 | A1win | Vailreth, I figured I could fake the beam by giving the unit who interacts with the building a dummy autocast ability that targets the interactable buildings... but not sure how to make it able to target multiple at the same time and keep channeling it until the unit goes out of range again |
| 15:17.10 | Kueken | make it a periodic search starting a persistent, which periodically checks the range |
| 15:17.17 | XenoX101 | how can I copy an ability from one map to another |
| 15:17.26 | XenoX101 | including actors etc |
| 15:17.52 | Kueken | copy the objects separately, or merge the xml files |
| 15:18.50 | XenoX101 | maybe I'll try just copying the actors |
| 15:19.01 | XenoX101 | then rereferencing |
| 15:21.35 | XenoX101 | that way their inclusive referencing is right |
| 15:21.38 | XenoX101 | only the events are wrong |
| 15:22.12 | Kueken | the events should preserve the ids and work again, once you copy the additional objects |
| 15:22.17 | Kueken | in theory |
| 15:31.34 | XenoX101 | is there a way to know what ctrl+z is doing? |
| 15:39.21 | XenoX101 | I wonder if anyone has actually made a tentacle actor before |
| 15:39.50 | A1win | any idea if there's a way to replace one command of a command queue without affecting the rest? I tried once by simply setting a unit order, but apparently each order also has the rest of the queue linked to it |
| 15:44.16 | Vailreth | i do not think the order que is that dynamic |
| 15:45.10 | XenoX101 | you could run through the orders maybe |
| 15:45.12 | XenoX101 | with a for loop |
| 15:46.35 | A1win | the problem is that each order in the queue has the rest of the orders linked to it |
| 15:46.52 | A1win | in a queue of 5 orders, order 1 is {1,2,3,4,5}, order 2 is {2,3,4,5}, etc. |
| 15:47.18 | A1win | err... so maybe if I want to replace order 2 with a new one, I set it to new order + order 3 |
| 15:47.46 | A1win | I think I tried a lot of things though, not sure if that's correct |
| 15:48.20 | Kueken | are you sure, the order stores the next orders? |
| 15:48.26 | A1win | it seemed so |
| 15:48.34 | Kueken | or does the unit store it? |
| 15:49.08 | A1win | I was storing unit order by index to a variable and then issuing that order to the unit, and it preserved the queue |
| 15:49.25 | A1win | using replace existing orders |
| 15:49.47 | Kueken | try to clear the order queue before |
| 15:49.56 | Kueken | maybe it only replaces one order in the queue |
| 15:49.59 | A1win | yeah I did ;p |
| 15:50.07 | A1win | I tried pretty much everything I could think of back then |
| 15:50.15 | Kueken | hm |
| 15:50.20 | Kueken | need to try myself xD |
| 15:50.50 | A1win | I was trying to make the unit forget the order it as just issued |
| 15:51.10 | A1win | but couldn't manage to recreate the rest of the queue without the first order in it... so there was probably even more things weird about it |
| 15:51.16 | XenoX101 | yay |
| 15:51.20 | XenoX101 | I got my tentacle back |
| 15:53.03 | A1win | how does this sound for creating the power grid: 1) select power source unit 2) click "create power line" ability 3) target a power user building 4) pop-up tells you the cost, confirm/deny by clicking a dialog button or using an ability (to get hotkeys) 5) power line is shown as a beam from the source to the user |
| 15:53.37 | A1win | would be nice if the cost would be shown before clicking but ability targeting is client side so dunno how it'd work |
| 15:53.48 | A1win | also... can I get the caster unit of a behavior with triggers? |
| 15:54.24 | JademusSreg | Attach power lines by smart click action, like I convinced timecat to do with Power Towers. |
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| 15:55.08 | A1win | yeah I guess that's fine too |
| 15:55.28 | A1win | but since the cost depends on the distance... the player might want to know it before actually creating it D: |
| 15:55.36 | Vailreth | who do the unpower buildings belong to? and the powered buildng? |
| 15:55.48 | Vailreth | ah |
| 15:55.54 | Vailreth | cost depends on distance |
| 15:56.45 | JademusSreg | I'm not sure what your map is actually about, but the design principle is universal. Simplify whenever possible. Don't put the burden of superfluous action on the user. |
| 15:57.06 | A1win | I'm trying to :P |
| 15:57.18 | A1win | but if it just takes your money without asking first... |
| 15:58.10 | JademusSreg | Then you could cancel it? |
| 15:58.17 | JademusSreg | How does your power mechanic work? |
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| 15:59.20 | A1win | power source(s) supplies user with different amounts of power, amount depending on number of lines attached to it |
| 15:59.30 | A1win | or that's how I've imagined it so far |
| 15:59.46 | b2zeldafreak | sounds interesting |
| 16:00.02 | JademusSreg | So what does attaching power lines cost? |
| 16:00.38 | A1win | resources that are stores as trigger variables |
| 16:00.55 | A1win | and the cost depends on distance between source and target |
| 16:01.28 | A1win | not sure how far I want it to be able to create the line though |
| 16:02.00 | A1win | maybe if I give it short enough range, I could make the cost a constant value |
| 16:02.22 | Vailreth | http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/vailreth/AmblitoryCilia.jpg |
| 16:02.39 | A1win | then have some connector building that accepts any number of lines (or up to a limit) and can create up to that many new lines |
| 16:03.13 | A1win | I also need to get afterwards which unit has created a line on which unit... any idea how to store that info D: |
| 16:03.30 | A1win | was thinking of using behaviors from source to target, but I don't know if I can get a behavior's creator with triggers |
| 16:03.38 | Kueken | A1win: for me, the first order does not include the other orders in the queue |
| 16:03.47 | A1win | hmmh |
| 16:04.39 | A1win | I might have done something wrong with my events and loops or whatever, I tested it like a year ago or something |
| 16:05.41 | A1win | JademusSreg, and the map is about resource management, and power is one kind of a resource (with a different mechanic to other resources) |
| 16:07.40 | JademusSreg | It costs power to make power lines? |
| 16:07.45 | A1win | no :P |
| 16:07.50 | A1win | some other resource |
| 16:07.59 | JademusSreg | I thought they were beams? |
| 16:08.11 | A1win | just represented as beams |
| 16:08.31 | JademusSreg | There are actual power line models in the game. |
| 16:09.07 | A1win | then I'd need to make the lines dodge buildings and other obstacles |
| 16:09.55 | Vailreth | i like my button it looks good in game. |
| 16:09.56 | JademusSreg | Just pointing out it seems a bit counterintuitive to make something that looks like a beam cost materials. |
| 16:09.56 | A1win | or rather, I'd need to make a system to make players have to make the lines dodge obstacles |
| 16:10.17 | A1win | let's just say the power lines go under the ground D: |
| 16:10.23 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 16:10.30 | A1win | the beam just tells the player where they are going =p |
| 16:11.13 | Vailreth | im my mod hydra dens ar B A D |
| 16:11.48 | Vailreth | gad not bad |
| 16:11.56 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 16:11.57 | A1win | maybe I should just save the power targets as a unit group array, and for each power source store the array index as a custom value... |
| 16:13.24 | A1win | except that then I'd need to go through the entire array when I want to disconnect all lines from a power user |
| 16:13.32 | A1win | probably not too bad D: |
| 16:17.15 | A1win | hmm hmm |
| 16:17.25 | A1win | the power cables model is quite nice though |
| 16:17.46 | A1win | maybe if I limit the range enough, I could spawn those in the middle and scale their length to fit exactly |
| 16:18.08 | A1win | they even have 1x and 2x variations on number of lines :o |
| 16:18.28 | A1win | or not... the other one was just 2 lines close together |
| 16:19.09 | A1win | ha.. but I can spawn 2 models with different height offsets to have multiple lines between the same units |
| 16:19.16 | XenoX101 | sigh |
| 16:19.22 | XenoX101 | I fucked the tentacle up again without even fucking knowing it |
| 16:19.24 | XenoX101 | fuck this editor |
| 16:19.28 | XenoX101 | so stupid |
| 16:19.39 | XenoX101 | blizzard need to learn how to reference |
| 16:26.12 | Kueken | tentacles are a pain, indeed |
| 16:26.50 | Kueken | however, interestingly you can hanlde them in 3 different ways |
| 16:27.13 | Kueken | like Spine Crawler, attached to an invisible missile |
| 16:27.27 | Kueken | like Neural Parasite, using a tentacle as a missile itself |
| 16:27.33 | Kueken | or like a beam actor |
| 16:27.44 | Kueken | just replace the beam model with the tentacle model |
| 16:28.18 | Kueken | surprisingly, this works just nicely |
| 16:28.27 | Kueken | even though you use a beam type actor |
| 16:34.01 | XenoX101 | well thank fuck its working |
| 16:44.03 | Vailreth | i am thinking of calling the little settlement that the zerg have to infest in my microcampagin neo-tristram |
| 16:48.44 | Mexa | hmm' |
| 16:48.58 | Vailreth | hmm? |
| 16:49.13 | Mexa | ~Mexa |
| 16:49.13 | purl | i guess mexa is a lagomorph. |
| 16:49.47 | Mexa | A small lettered 'i'? Shame on you purl.. |
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| 17:02.30 | XenoX101 | how can I change the icon on a zerg egg? |
| 17:02.39 | XenoX101 | that is building I mean |
| 17:03.59 | *** join/#sc2mapster Shawn|Rawr (~chatzilla@ip70-189-190-50.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 17:04.58 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 17:05.02 | Shawn|Rawr | mmh |
| 17:05.09 | Vailreth | hello Shawn |
| 17:05.15 | Shawn|Rawr | Hello Vail |
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| 17:05.52 | Vailreth | i am still trying to come up with zerg command abilities |
| 17:06.08 | Shawn|Rawr | I don't know what you mean |
| 17:07.08 | Vailreth | special abilities used from a command structure that effect gameplay if you have played command and conquer 3 or redalert 3 then thats the idea |
| 17:07.19 | Shawn|Rawr | <3 Nukes |
| 17:07.41 | Shawn|Rawr | In my school's gaming club, I would 1v4 people in zero hour and win every time |
| 17:07.58 | Vailreth | nice |
| 17:08.28 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 17:08.53 | Shawn|Rawr | I imagine something where you target an area, and broodlings/zerglings unburrow in 2 or 3 waves then attack anything nearby |
| 17:09.11 | Vailreth | have something similar, |
| 17:09.58 | Shawn|Rawr | An ability that maxes the larva on 3-4 hatches would be nice as well |
| 17:09.58 | Vailreth | i have infest structures, germinate ambush, fungal cysts, and relentles swarm |
| 17:10.10 | Vailreth | hm |
| 17:10.18 | Shawn|Rawr | Of course 3-4 might be OP lol |
| 17:10.25 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm a zerg player so I'm biased |
| 17:10.33 | Vailreth | me too |
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| 17:10.41 | Vailreth | i <3 Zerg |
| 17:10.43 | Shawn|Rawr | But yes, not having enough larva is a huge constraint on ladder |
| 17:11.04 | Vailreth | gota hit the larva injects perfectly |
| 17:11.21 | Shawn|Rawr | Yup. Thus why that ability would come in handy |
| 17:12.53 | Shawn|Rawr | Maybe even max larva on one hatch would be sufficient |
| 17:12.56 | Shawn|Rawr | Max is 16 i beleive |
| 17:13.06 | Shawn|Rawr | so getting 16 extra larva would still be epic |
| 17:13.33 | Vailreth | maybe it doesnt have to be at a hatch maybe anywhere you have creep... |
| 17:13.49 | Shawn|Rawr | I guess so |
| 17:13.52 | Shawn|Rawr | That would be cool too |
| 17:14.09 | Shawn|Rawr | Could easy reinforce your army if you have good spread |
| 17:14.19 | Shawn|Rawr | Would make the opponent want to kill your creep asap |
| 17:14.27 | Vailreth | yes |
| 17:14.55 | Vailreth | but then they would have to get through the fungal cysts that explode and fungal growth every enemy nearby |
| 17:16.44 | Shawn|Rawr | Oh I didn't know about nothin like that |
| 17:16.47 | JademusSreg | 19 |
| 17:16.53 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes, 19 |
| 17:17.21 | Ravonus | workign through lunch >< |
| 17:17.27 | Ravonus | no nap :( |
| 17:17.55 | XenoX101 | today is the day of fucking thing sup |
| 17:17.59 | XenoX101 | things up* irony |
| 17:18.05 | XenoX101 | fucking odin cannon |
| 17:18.10 | XenoX101 | I change one thing |
| 17:18.12 | XenoX101 | and it blows up |
| 17:18.17 | XenoX101 | and now I cant ctrl+z cause blizzard is retarded |
| 17:18.52 | Shawn|Rawr | Blizz didn't screw it up |
| 17:18.54 | Shawn|Rawr | ^.^ |
| 17:19.14 | XenoX101 | they sure did |
| 17:19.18 | XenoX101 | I cant ctrl+z my mistakes |
| 17:19.26 | XenoX101 | what kind of piece of shit editor would not let me backtrack |
| 17:20.39 | XenoX101 | whoever made actors |
| 17:20.42 | XenoX101 | needs to be shot |
| 17:20.43 | Vailreth | hm well the editor is lnown to have Undo Redo issues in the data module |
| 17:21.05 | Vailreth | i wouldnt go that far |
| 17:21.58 | Vailreth | actors are very powerful and pretty versityle and because of it they are hard to get the hang of |
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| 17:23.02 | Slaydon | heey |
| 17:23.18 | Slaydon | can someone explain to me what OP_Facebook is |
| 17:23.47 | Slaydon | im confused if facebook users are in danger, or are they just putting down facebook? |
| 17:23.51 | Shawn|Rawr | A bunch of gay script kiddies are trying to take down FB on Nov 5 |
| 17:23.53 | XenoX101 | wow |
| 17:23.57 | XenoX101 | whoever made the upgrades thing |
| 17:24.00 | XenoX101 | is actually clever as fuck |
| 17:24.08 | XenoX101 | I just deleted and remade an effect with the same name |
| 17:24.16 | XenoX101 | and it got it back perfectlyu |
| 17:24.22 | XenoX101 | yet its a completely different effect |
| 17:24.28 | XenoX101 | and it still recognizes the attribute I'm changing |
| 17:24.38 | XenoX101 | in the new effect |
| 17:24.53 | Slaydon | Shawn, so theres only positive effects for facebook users? |
| 17:25.10 | Slaydon | like they arent trying to hack the users, they are trying to hack facebook |
| 17:25.12 | Slaydon | im confused |
| 17:26.08 | Shawn|Rawr | They just want to take down the site, nothing else |
| 17:26.15 | Slaydon | thank god |
| 17:26.32 | Shawn|Rawr | They are rebelling against the fact that FB stores all of your info and never erases anything i think |
| 17:26.39 | Shawn|Rawr | Something like that, not sure |
| 17:28.25 | XenoX101 | is there any way to make autocast override existing abiltiies? |
| 17:28.28 | XenoX101 | like override attack move? |
| 17:29.29 | Kueken | hm, not sure, how exactly you need it |
| 17:29.41 | XenoX101 | charging ability |
| 17:29.45 | Kueken | maybe you could use augment, similar to zealot charge |
| 17:29.56 | XenoX101 | its different though |
| 17:30.06 | Slaydon | Shawn, thanks for calming me down, i've been paranoid since my email got hacked |
| 17:30.40 | Shawn|Rawr | xenox, don't abilities already override attack move? |
| 17:30.57 | Shawn|Rawr | I have units attack moving in one of my maps and they still use abilities |
| 17:31.02 | Shawn|Rawr | Vail knows. He's seen it |
| 17:31.29 | XenoX101 | on autocast? |
| 17:32.02 | Kueken | yep |
| 17:32.17 | XenoX101 | nvm fixed it |
| 17:32.18 | Kueken | well, we need to know exactly, what you are trying to do |
| 17:32.19 | XenoX101 | "Allow movement" |
| 17:32.25 | Kueken | ok |
| 17:39.44 | XenoX101 | so does anyone know how to change an egg spawning picture? |
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| 17:56.19 | ClayMuffin | Hello peps |
| 17:56.29 | ClayMuffin | anybody logged on? |
| 18:00.01 | Vailreth | yo muffin |
| 18:03.58 | Vailreth | ... |
| 18:08.00 | XenoX101 | why wont my weapon attack friendly units |
| 18:08.05 | XenoX101 | apart from filters |
| 18:08.14 | XenoX101 | deal damage I mean |
| 18:09.17 | Vailreth | check the effect the weapon uses |
| 18:12.27 | Shawn|Rawr | Sounds like damage effect |
| 18:12.30 | Shawn|Rawr | filters |
| 18:12.31 | XenoX101 | ok it works now |
| 18:12.37 | XenoX101 | had to change a value |
| 18:13.15 | Shawn|Rawr | Like the penis value? |
| 18:13.29 | Shawn|Rawr | oh ya. o went there |
| 18:13.33 | Shawn|Rawr | i |
| 18:14.02 | Vailreth | nisnt that value a boolean |
| 18:14.14 | Vailreth | you know 1 for having one and 0 for not |
| 18:14.31 | Shawn|Rawr | For some people, I hear it's a string |
| 18:14.48 | Vailreth | hah |
| 18:15.25 | Vailreth | i didnt see any comments about naming the settlement in my microcampaign neo-tristram |
| 18:15.42 | Vailreth | well i think Jade Hah'ed |
| 18:15.45 | Shawn|Rawr | Ugh. Ladder frustrates me. This is the only game I know where you can stop playing for a few weeks only to pick it back up and suck like a bronze player |
| 18:16.06 | Vailreth | hey im a bronze player ... |
| 18:16.16 | Shawn|Rawr | That's prolly why you make maps |
| 18:16.18 | XenoX101 | yep pretty much shawn |
| 18:16.32 | Vailreth | na i make maps because i like to tinker |
| 18:16.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Then you suck because you put too much time into maps and not enough into ladder |
| 18:16.56 | Shawn|Rawr | You can always get better |
| 18:16.56 | Vailreth | i suck at bronze level because i have bad mechanicns |
| 18:17.18 | Vailreth | and trying to learn the hotkeys |
| 18:17.29 | Vailreth | im Trying* |
| 18:17.46 | XenoX101 | check out the patch notes to my map |
| 18:17.47 | XenoX101 | http://pastebin.com/KxCyArxm |
| 18:17.49 | Shawn|Rawr | SD, SM, SH, SR, SV |
| 18:17.54 | Shawn|Rawr | 1,2,3,4 |
| 18:17.58 | Shawn|Rawr | all you need |
| 18:18.43 | Dustin | Lol are you remaking the HOTS units in the data editor? |
| 18:18.55 | XenoX101 | yes I've done it already |
| 18:19.01 | Dustin | haha that's badass |
| 18:19.11 | Vailreth | i use 1 for my hatches or such then 2 3 4 for my first three queens then from there i hotkey unit packs |
| 18:19.16 | Dustin | so they are exactly like the hots units? |
| 18:19.21 | ClayMuffin | im back |
| 18:19.28 | ClayMuffin | i was working on a magnetic mine |
| 18:19.40 | ClayMuffin | I really enjoy using force effects... |
| 18:20.51 | ClayMuffin | So yea... The question now is... Why aren't my worker switching to unoccupied new custom resource when they have the opportunity to do so? I haven't found what trigger that in the events |
| 18:21.25 | Vailreth | auto aquire resource in the gather ability |
| 18:22.22 | Vailreth | sorry its just aquire resource |
| 18:22.49 | ClayMuffin | and thats still in the gather ability? |
| 18:22.56 | Vailreth | yes |
| 18:23.20 | ClayMuffin | found it |
| 18:23.25 | ClayMuffin | pretty easy, ty |
| 18:23.29 | Vailreth | and im still getting it wrong its resource aquire blah |
| 18:23.32 | Vailreth | no problem |
| 18:34.41 | Ravonus | no PROBLEM |
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| 18:38.55 | A1win | boo yeah, power line system is awesome |
| 18:39.11 | A1win | just needs abilities to create them and the effects of buildings being powered |
| 18:39.15 | A1win | and using fuel to power |
| 18:39.36 | A1win | ...which I didn't take into account when applying these behaviors >.< |
| 18:39.37 | A1win | mmh |
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| 18:39.54 | A1win | oh well it'll be easy to do |
| 18:40.24 | Shadowwolf | There we go, LOL, im suprised this isnt a tab at the top fo the SC2mapster page |
| 18:41.29 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/cc/Screenshot2011-10-31%2020_40_34.jpg |
| 18:41.51 | A1win | up to 4 lines can go from one source to a target |
| 18:42.15 | A1win | it visually changes the number of cables |
| 18:42.38 | A1win | max range is set to 10 atm, might be able to stretch the longest cable a bit more if needed |
| 18:44.11 | Ravonus | LIKE A BOSS |
| 18:50.31 | Vailreth | whats a good name for an ability that spawns larvae at any zerg structure for 10 seconds? |
| 18:52.46 | XenoX101 | inject larvae |
| 18:52.49 | XenoX101 | ;) |
| 18:52.57 | Ravonus | Fuck fest |
| 18:53.01 | Vailreth | hah hah |
| 18:53.18 | Ravonus | my = epic... but blizzard would ban you :( |
| 18:53.25 | Dustin | XenoX101 |
| 18:53.30 | Dustin | Is your map published |
| 18:53.52 | Vailreth | Larval Genesis .. |
| 18:53.53 | b2zeldafreak | Zerg Fest |
| 18:53.54 | Ravonus | Vail call it like Love Nest |
| 18:53.55 | Ravonus | ;) |
| 18:55.03 | A1win | proliferate |
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| 18:55.30 | A1win | Vailreth, ^ |
| 18:55.34 | Shadowwolf | Is there a simple trigger I can make to make A single unit auto spawn Other units around it. |
| 18:55.44 | Vailreth | yes A1? |
| 18:55.51 | A1win | Proliferate =P |
| 18:55.59 | A1win | name for your ability |
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| 18:56.49 | Vailreth | Mitosial Proliferation |
| 18:57.55 | Vailreth | causes nearby structures to Proliferat Larva through a process of tissue mitosis> |
| 18:57.58 | Vailreth | .* |
| 18:58.06 | XenoX101 | hey A1win |
| 18:58.14 | XenoX101 | can you do a patch on EU for me with this map |
| 18:58.14 | Vailreth | or something to similar effect |
| 18:58.19 | XenoX101 | plz |
| 18:58.27 | A1win | alright |
| 18:58.29 | Dustin | XenoX101 |
| 18:58.36 | Dustin | So can my helions transform? |
| 18:58.40 | XenoX101 | I should really get a EU account |
| 18:58.51 | A1win | you might want to figure out the locale stuff though ;p |
| 18:59.11 | XenoX101 | I dont think I can |
| 18:59.13 | Shadowwolf | make a free EU account, just dont buy the game on it |
| 18:59.14 | XenoX101 | cause I'm on SEA/US |
| 18:59.19 | Shadowwolf | I've heard you can |
| 18:59.27 | Shadowwolf | just go to the EU site |
| 18:59.40 | Shadowwolf | http://eu.battle.net/en/ |
| 18:59.51 | Shadowwolf | you might have to find a download of the EU galaxy editor |
| 18:59.57 | XenoX101 | nah |
| 19:00.12 | XenoX101 | you can download the client |
| 19:00.18 | Shadowwolf | oh |
| 19:00.20 | XenoX101 | but cant connect to the server |
| 19:00.23 | Shadowwolf | Lame |
| 19:01.30 | Shadowwolf | Dammit I gotta start work on my map LOL, Dont want to start, because when I do i wont put it down... |
| 19:01.43 | XenoX101 | yeah I know the feeling |
| 19:01.44 | XenoX101 | all too well |
| 19:01.49 | XenoX101 | its like cancer |
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| 19:01.52 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 19:01.59 | XenoX101 | thats why I'm up at 6am |
| 19:02.02 | XenoX101 | instead of in bed at 2 |
| 19:02.07 | XenoX101 | god damn thing |
| 19:02.24 | Shadowwolf | Problem is I gotta veiw tutorials, I havn't made non melee maps since Warcraft 2 days |
| 19:03.13 | Shawn|Rawr | That's why we're here wolf |
| 19:03.15 | Shawn|Rawr | ^.^ |
| 19:03.48 | XenoX101 | yes only I just pretend to be useful |
| 19:03.50 | XenoX101 | I'm actually awful |
| 19:03.55 | Shawn|Rawr | True that |
| 19:04.05 | Shadowwolf | :P |
| 19:04.22 | Shadowwolf | Well imma go get started, I guess Ill make my Terrain first |
| 19:04.48 | Shadowwolf | anyone know the size for an Evolves map would be? |
| 19:04.51 | Shawn|Rawr | Do terrain on at least medium graphics settings |
| 19:05.19 | Shadowwolf | Alright |
| 19:05.36 | Shawn|Rawr | Try something a little bigger than 128x128 imo |
| 19:05.44 | Shawn|Rawr | You can always adjust the map down if it's too big |
| 19:05.53 | XenoX101 | low all the way broskis |
| 19:06.11 | Shawn|Rawr | Low does not work when terraining |
| 19:06.18 | XenoX101 | nah thats true |
| 19:06.37 | Shawn|Rawr | Don't you have some actor events to figure out? |
| 19:06.39 | Shadowwolf | :P |
| 19:06.41 | XenoX101 | A1win I sent the map |
| 19:06.41 | Shadowwolf | thats true |
| 19:06.51 | XenoX101 | nope I figured them all out Shawn |
| 19:07.00 | XenoX101 | cause I'm a genius |
| 19:07.01 | Shawn|Rawr | Don't ever ask xenox about actor events. Just don't/ |
| 19:07.07 | Shawn|Rawr | ^.^ |
| 19:07.10 | XenoX101 | fuck you :D |
| 19:07.16 | Shadowwolf | Im going to make a competitive E V O L V E S type map, Pretty much a mix between Zealot frenzy and E V O L V E S 2001 |
| 19:07.17 | Shawn|Rawr | Wanna? |
| 19:07.19 | XenoX101 | not really |
| 19:07.26 | Shawn|Rawr | I'd fuck me |
| 19:07.28 | Shawn|Rawr | ^.^ |
| 19:08.39 | Shadowwolf | lol |
| 19:08.51 | XenoX101 | I have a sac in 2 days |
| 19:08.54 | XenoX101 | er, 1 day now |
| 19:08.56 | XenoX101 | and an exam in 2 |
| 19:09.01 | XenoX101 | and I'm sitting here uploading maps |
| 19:10.37 | Shawn|Rawr | You just need music |
| 19:10.39 | Shawn|Rawr | Obviously |
| 19:11.06 | Shawn|Rawr | Like I'm supposed to be going to Big 5 right now to see if I can get an interview.. and I'm staring at mapster listening to music |
| 19:11.10 | A1win | XenoX101, the localized stuff can at least be seen in import manager with the "show reserved" flag turned on |
| 19:12.11 | A1win | I'll try just extracting the US ones and importing them to GB folder |
| 19:12.36 | XenoX101 | ic |
| 19:12.40 | XenoX101 | you'll have to teach me sometime |
| 19:12.48 | XenoX101 | cause I'm clueless :x |
| 19:13.07 | Shawn|Rawr | MPQ editor |
| 19:13.09 | Shawn|Rawr | ezpz |
| 19:13.16 | Vailreth | there is the sc2 map localizer which can do the brute work then you can go in and modify the local's game strings |
| 19:13.37 | A1win | oh... can't |
| 19:13.51 | A1win | so yeah needs the editor |
| 19:17.47 | Shawn|Rawr | Ron Paul 2012.. just sayin |
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| 19:18.47 | Shawn|Rawr | Hello Ingela |
| 19:19.18 | Deaod | no thank you, Shawn |
| 19:19.28 | A1win | XenoX101, I think I get them working |
| 19:19.46 | Shawn|Rawr | Hehe ^.^ |
| 19:19.50 | A1win | maybe... |
| 19:19.54 | A1win | mmh map info is still empty |
| 19:20.08 | A1win | probably because I don't have a locale selected |
| 19:20.44 | A1win | except that now the enGB stuff disappeared |
| 19:21.37 | Ravonus | you guys wouldn't believe it.. but there is this laywerfirm ( they fight for people that get hurt when you do something stupid like DUI ) and they are going to pay everyones cab fair tonight in Denver up to 35 dollars >< |
| 19:21.38 | A1win | ah it's still there |
| 19:21.40 | Ravonus | thought that was pretty cool |
| 19:21.52 | A1win | err |
| 19:21.57 | A1win | now it doesn't open the map anymore =P |
| 19:22.27 | A1win | oh right it was open in the MPQ editor |
| 19:22.29 | Shawn|Rawr | For Halloween Rav? |
| 19:24.46 | Ravonus | yeah |
| 19:24.49 | Ravonus | just thought it was cool |
| 19:25.01 | Ravonus | laywers doing something good what! |
| 19:25.25 | Shawn|Rawr | Normally the Vegas public transportation handles that. Just gives us free bus rides home. |
| 19:26.05 | Shawn|Rawr | Cabs are better though |
| 19:26.07 | Shawn|Rawr | obviously |
| 19:28.52 | A1win | bah, the locale still not working D: |
| 19:29.04 | A1win | I copied the enUS stuff to enGB with an mpq editor |
| 19:30.01 | Vailreth | ok this ability will need serious balancing later but damn its sweet now |
| 19:31.49 | Shawn|Rawr | Which one vail? |
| 19:32.15 | Vailreth | make any zerg structure spawn larvae |
| 19:32.43 | Shawn|Rawr | I'd creep up the map and move my spines forward and use those |
| 19:33.32 | Vailreth | right now its only for a custom micro campaign im working on but if i get the demand for it i will modify some melee maps to use the same dependency |
| 19:34.14 | A1win | sounds a bit OP =p |
| 19:34.29 | Vailreth | its seriously OP right now |
| 19:34.52 | Vailreth | this ability + 3 structures =60 larva |
| 19:35.09 | Vailreth | like i said it will have to be ballanced |
| 19:36.08 | Vailreth | but then the protoss have the Restoration Zone ability that creates the equivelant of a health fountain at any point on the map for like 15 seconds |
| 19:38.21 | XenoX101 | A1win |
| 19:39.40 | Shawn|Rawr | Has a map been banned for WoW models yet? |
| 19:40.53 | Dustin | Not that im aware of |
| 19:43.37 | Shawn|Rawr | I know for sure that in wc3 they disallowed WoW models |
| 19:43.48 | Shawn|Rawr | But I want to see if they changed their minds |
| 19:44.49 | Vailreth | i think it was more of an Engine thing in the WC3 days |
| 19:45.35 | Deaod | wasnt that restriction in WC3 mostly community enforced? |
| 19:45.41 | Deaod | ie. not by blizzard? |
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| 20:03.23 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm pretty sure I read a statement by blizz about it |
| 20:05.46 | A1win | any ideas how to make a validator that checks if stack count of a behavior on a unit is less than some auxillary value which I can store on the unit or unit type somehow? |
| 20:05.56 | A1win | or if that's possible |
| 20:06.18 | XenoX101 | unit behaviour count should do it |
| 20:06.38 | A1win | but can it compare to a variable and not just a constant? |
| 20:06.56 | Vailreth | not that i am aware off |
| 20:07.03 | XenoX101 | nah |
| 20:07.08 | A1win | I need an ability that can only target a unit if it doesn't already have full power lines attached to it |
| 20:07.15 | A1win | I guess I'll do a trigger workaround then |
| 20:07.42 | b2zeldafreak | I'm pretty sure WoW models are allowed |
| 20:07.53 | Vailreth | you can validate that it has less than x number of that beavhior |
| 20:09.34 | Vailreth | you may have to use some combine validators and other validators but the behavior count can do what you want i believe |
| 20:10.51 | XenoX101 | yes you could do that |
| 20:10.58 | XenoX101 | make it so that another behaviour |
| 20:11.02 | XenoX101 | triggers at set times |
| 20:11.46 | Vailreth | why would that be nesceary? |
| 20:13.43 | Ravonus | http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/712/img011662011102911182.jpg?http://www.imageshack.us/ |
| 20:13.50 | Ravonus | thats right |
| 20:17.34 | Shawn|afk | Gotta go fill out one of them job app thingies |
| 20:17.37 | Shawn|afk | ^.^& |
| 20:17.44 | b2zeldafreak | Shawn |
| 20:17.53 | Shawn|afk | ? |
| 20:17.55 | b2zeldafreak | you can use WoW models in SC2, 95% sure |
| 20:18.05 | Shawn|afk | I was going to do it anyway |
| 20:18.18 | b2zeldafreak | i'll see if i can find the post later |
| 20:18.20 | b2zeldafreak | but good to know |
| 20:18.30 | Shawn|afk | Besides, Blizz really only checks maps when they get complaints anyway |
| 20:18.40 | Shawn|afk | I'm sure no one would complain about WoW models |
| 20:19.33 | Shawn|afk | And as soon as I'm done adding the units to the map, I'll gladly share the mod file with the units I used inside it |
| 20:19.57 | Shawn|afk | Just really tedious going from model file to full unit |
| 20:20.07 | Shawn|afk | Gotta see if I can get the sounds |
| 20:20.46 | Shawn|afk | Speaking of which, did Rodrigo ever quit mapping? |
| 20:21.10 | b2zeldafreak | not sure |
| 20:21.13 | Shawn|afk | I haven't seen him around, and I would've noticed because he annoys the crap out of me |
| 20:21.17 | Shawn|afk | Oh well |
| 20:21.27 | b2zeldafreak | I'm starting a map though xP |
| 20:21.52 | XenoX101 | hey if a unit morphs |
| 20:21.54 | XenoX101 | does it keep its behaviours? |
| 20:22.27 | Shawn|afk | I think that is a possibility xenox. Might have to set some extra things in the behavior or the morph though |
| 20:22.49 | Vailreth | if they are cast on it i believe they are mainatined if they are latent both units need to have the latent behavior |
| 20:33.42 | b2zeldafreak | Here you go, thread on Wo models in SC@ |
| 20:33.43 | b2zeldafreak | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/map-development/8307-wow-models/ |
| 20:34.55 | b2zeldafreak | basically it says since both games are owned by blizzard its ok as long as you follow normal mapmaking rules |
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| 20:38.04 | ShadowWolf | thsi work? |
| 20:38.07 | ShadowWolf | lol |
| 20:38.10 | ShadowWolf | there we g0o |
| 20:38.19 | ShadowWolf | I got a huge list of plans for my map |
| 20:39.19 | Ravonus | oh yeah you do |
| 20:39.24 | ShadowWolf | wow.. |
| 20:39.25 | ShadowWolf | lol |
| 20:44.16 | ShadowWolf | Hey is it possible to make Critters attack? |
| 20:44.51 | ShadowWolf | If so then I got my first unit to use for evolution frenzy |
| 20:46.19 | Ravonus | yall like my chewy |
| 20:46.55 | A1win | gah why isn't my ability losing charges D: |
| 20:47.01 | Ravonus | cuz :( |
| 20:47.17 | Ravonus | http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/712/img011662011102911182.jpg?http://www.imageshack.us/ |
| 20:50.49 | A1win | errm.. I took transistent flag off and now the ability just gets stuck when I target something with it |
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| 20:52.26 | Vailreth | whats the arc on the ability ? |
| 20:52.37 | A1win | 0 |
| 20:52.42 | A1win | does that matter? |
| 20:52.47 | A1win | oh |
| 20:52.49 | A1win | yeah =p |
| 20:53.06 | A1win | 360 now ;p |
| 20:53.29 | Vailreth | hope it helps |
| 20:53.33 | A1win | yup |
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| 20:53.51 | Vailreth | yeah i had that issue my self a bit earlier |
| 20:53.54 | A1win | any way to replenish 1 charge to an ability with triggers? or an effect that I could execute with triggers? |
| 20:54.20 | A1win | the "clear charge used" triggers only clear all charges, not just one |
| 20:54.28 | A1win | and adding -1 charge used doesn't do anything |
| 20:56.19 | Vailreth | remove charge used for unit ability? |
| 20:56.55 | A1win | that clears all charges too |
| 20:56.59 | A1win | of that ability |
| 20:57.23 | Vailreth | hm well there is the modify unit effect |
| 20:58.38 | A1win | that seems to only be able to change the charge cost |
| 20:58.57 | A1win | oh well... I'll just clear all and add some back |
| 20:59.45 | Vailreth | i dont think you are using that effect correctly then |
| 21:00.17 | Vailreth | rather correctly for your purpose |
| 21:00.51 | Ravonus | woot i forogt 2 dollar chipottle burritos tonight |
| 21:01.08 | A1win | Vailreth, what do you mean? |
| 21:01.35 | A1win | the building has 4 charges that represent the number of power cables it can attach |
| 21:01.41 | Vailreth | the modify unit effect is what is used in the campaign to restore charges to the vulture spider mine ability |
| 21:01.45 | A1win | but when a power cable is disconnected, I need to restore charges |
| 21:01.49 | A1win | oh |
| 21:02.06 | A1win | I just filtered it with "charge" and didn't see anything useful |
| 21:02.32 | Vailreth | you set Cost Fraction Charge to 1 and Cost - Usage Charge Count to -1 |
| 21:02.57 | Vailreth | and it will resturn 1 charge to what ever to set in ability |
| 21:03.06 | Vailreth | restore* |
| 21:03.07 | A1win | err... now my triggers aren't even working to add used charges |
| 21:03.30 | ShadowWolf | WHY CANT I SEEM TO GET THE LAVA CRITTER TO BE CONTROLLED BY A PLAYER!!!!!!!!!! LOL |
| 21:04.42 | A1win | and the clear charges isn't working either O_o |
| 21:05.08 | A1win | I guess I'm doing something wrong |
| 21:05.20 | Vailreth | what do you mean Shadow? |
| 21:06.07 | ShadowWolf | im trying to make a critter controllable by the player |
| 21:06.17 | ShadowWolf | it just doesnt seem to work |
| 21:06.35 | Vailreth | how is it not working? |
| 21:07.55 | JademusSreg | Critters have an editor flag called Default To Neutral Player. |
| 21:08.08 | JademusSreg | Also, they have an Uncommandable flag. |
| 21:08.15 | Vailreth | as well the lava crab has unselectable as well] |
| 21:08.20 | JademusSreg | True.dat |
| 21:08.40 | A1win | grr, why isn't this clearing the charges |
| 21:08.54 | ShadowWolf | I removed the uncommandable flag, and gave them some attack |
| 21:09.11 | ShadowWolf | gotta find that other flag then |
| 21:09.40 | JademusSreg | Did you give it the Attack ability, a weapon, and a button on the command card? Gotta have all three for that to work. |
| 21:09.46 | JademusSreg | Anyway, bbl. |
| 21:10.32 | Vailreth | i have decided since some of these Swarm Mastery powers are over the top OP i will only give six |
| 21:10.47 | Vailreth | pluss thats less i need to think of |
| 21:11.39 | ShadowWolf | yup did all that |
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| 21:12.13 | ShadowWolf | i dont ee the default to neutral player flag in the data editor |
| 21:12.53 | Vailreth | under edtior flags |
| 21:13.47 | ShadowWolf | the part where it says Unit + flags right? |
| 21:14.37 | Vailreth | editor: editor flags + |
| 21:15.01 | A1win | Vailreth, err.. which ability does it restore charges to D: |
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| 21:15.11 | A1win | modify unit that is |
| 21:15.28 | A1win | nevermind |
| 21:15.29 | Vailreth | which ever ability you set in the Cost: Ability Field |
| 21:15.33 | Vailreth | ah |
| 21:15.36 | A1win | just found it |
| 21:15.54 | Vailreth | do you use combine like values ON in the editor? |
| 21:16.44 | Vailreth | rather combine structure values^ |
| 21:16.59 | A1win | nope |
| 21:17.14 | A1win | mmh |
| 21:17.18 | A1win | it's still not working |
| 21:18.31 | Vailreth | would you show me a screen shot of the effect settings for the Cost: Cost Fields? |
| 21:18.50 | A1win | err |
| 21:19.07 | A1win | I just realized I forgot to add these units into my power source array =P |
| 21:19.10 | A1win | no wonder... |
| 21:19.23 | Vailreth | ah |
| 21:20.32 | Vailreth | i really like add and remove behavior effecs |
| 21:20.35 | Vailreth | effects |
| 21:24.54 | Kueken | :) |
| 21:25.19 | Vailreth | what is the up Kueken? |
| 21:25.28 | Kueken | I would like a filter for remove behavior to remove behaviors only by a specific caster |
| 21:26.18 | A1win | ...and my test triggers had wrong values in them >_> |
| 21:26.22 | A1win | and I seem to have a headache |
| 21:26.36 | Vailreth | what is the instance you would like the behavior removed what do you want to trigger the removal? |
| 21:27.22 | ShadowWolf | enough learning, i got months to finish this, Ill be back later |
| 21:27.55 | Kueken | nothing specific, it would just be convenient in general |
| 21:28.16 | Vailreth | ah true |
| 21:29.02 | Kueken | I had this issue a while back with a behavior, which could be stacked by multiple casters and was removed at a specific condition dependent on the caster |
| 21:29.56 | Kueken | I set the remove behavior effect to remove 1 stack, so it sort of worked, but it screwed up from time to time |
| 21:30.18 | Kueken | like giving the wrong caster the kill credit |
| 21:30.21 | Vailreth | interesting |
| 21:31.57 | A1win | <.< and now I was filling the array with one unit, forgot to add break to the loop when it found an empty spot |
| 21:33.27 | A1win | now it works... |
| 21:34.02 | A1win | mmh right I should probably fill gaps in the array when I remove stuff from it |
| 21:34.17 | A1win | err or not... can just skip them |
| 21:34.24 | A1win | but need to keep track of last used index |
| 21:40.48 | Vailreth | well this is no fun i didnt save my floaty turret map |
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| 21:42.10 | Shadowwolf | THIS IS WHY I HATE GALAXY EDIT, i had another Idea that I wanna do first I think it will be much much easier.then my other project. This one should only take a few weeks to complete. Whats easier A mix of Evolves and Footmen frenzy or a Chess game? |
| 21:43.11 | Vailreth | chess maybe easier data wise |
| 21:43.20 | Kueken | yay |
| 21:43.22 | Shadowwolf | Thats what im thinking |
| 21:43.25 | Kueken | try chess in full data |
| 21:43.45 | Kueken | now thats a challenge |
| 21:43.48 | Shadowwolf | That way I dont have to worrie about tons of triggers either, besides Wining |
| 21:43.49 | Vailreth | how would you controll the movement |
| 21:44.01 | Shadowwolf | I think im going to make them blink to each space |
| 21:44.11 | Shadowwolf | so i have to make it so only one unit can blink toa space |
| 21:44.25 | Kueken | dummy marker units, abilities to cast on fields search for markers, validators for valid fields... |
| 21:44.38 | Kueken | tonns of dummy behaviors to keep track of the game state |
| 21:44.46 | Shadowwolf | alright |
| 21:44.46 | Kueken | could be possible |
| 21:44.56 | Kueken | but would be absolutely crazy |
| 21:45.00 | Shadowwolf | This is for a first Galaxy editor Non melee map. |
| 21:45.03 | Shadowwolf | lol |
| 21:45.13 | Shadowwolf | I wanna start with something strong |
| 21:45.54 | Vailreth | start with simple stuff to get used to the editor then when you know the tool make some thing epic with it |
| 21:46.26 | Kueken | I went for playing around with the editor as much as possible |
| 21:46.38 | Kueken | right when SC2 came out |
| 21:46.50 | Kueken | currently, I am still in playing around phase :D |
| 21:47.11 | Vailreth | yeah ive been using the editor since it came out in beta |
| 21:47.47 | Vailreth | and i only know three validator types the buff behavior and some effects well |
| 21:48.33 | Shadowwolf | But i have one advantage, The editor has been out and there are tons of Tutorials out |
| 21:48.58 | Vailreth | meh tutorials cant beat first hand tinkering |
| 21:49.18 | Vailreth | but they are good guides to work from |
| 21:50.41 | Shadowwolf | yeah i know |
| 21:51.13 | Shadowwolf | Fine ill do a re-make of an easier map :P, chop chop farms :P |
| 21:52.40 | Aelia | http://tinyurl.com/39q4nco |
| 21:53.23 | Kueken | you want so see, how many will wait for it to load? :D |
| 21:53.32 | Aelia | :) |
| 21:53.43 | Aelia | how long did you wait? |
| 21:53.45 | Vailreth | well that was pointless |
| 21:54.01 | Vailreth | but funny |
| 21:54.09 | Shadowwolf | lol |
| 21:54.15 | Shadowwolf | the only problem is it said .gif at the end |
| 21:54.17 | Shadowwolf | LOL |
| 21:57.32 | Shadowwolf | okay imma make chop chop farms |
| 22:05.05 | Shadowwolf | LOL i found an easy solution, THis is the most played map from Warcraft 2 |
| 22:05.15 | Shadowwolf | LAWL |
| 22:05.17 | Shadowwolf | That shows how high tech this map is |
| 22:09.27 | Shadowwolf | anyone here know how to mass change the resources for minerals, i want to do multiple at once |
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| 22:18.34 | Shadowwolf | anyone know how to change the amount a resources a worker gathers? |
| 22:18.53 | Frostwind | I bet I can find it |
| 22:18.58 | Frostwind | give me a second |
| 22:19.09 | Shadowwolf | oki |
| 22:20.54 | Frostwind | How much do workers gather each time? 10?? |
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| 22:25.05 | Shadowwolf | 5 right now] |
| 22:25.13 | Shadowwolf | i want to set it around 750 |
| 22:26.02 | Frostwind | look at the gather skill. |
| 22:26.26 | Frostwind | find the 'Resource Amount Bonus' |
| 22:27.07 | Shadowwolf | ok |
| 22:27.30 | Frostwind | set it to say 745 |
| 22:27.46 | Frostwind | its on a per resource |
| 22:29.18 | Mexa | Could someone tell me the last time I was disconnecting? |
| 22:29.32 | Mexa | (And not the time just recently, but the one before that?) |
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| 22:29.52 | Shadowwolf | this is in the data editor under abilities right? |
| 22:30.04 | Mexa | Also, if it had any specific quit message? |
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| 22:32.14 | Kueken | (18:33:10) Mexa_ hat den Raum verlassen (quit: Ping timeout: 252 seconds). |
| 22:32.37 | Kueken | "hat den Raum verlassen" = "has left the Channel" ;) |
| 22:33.47 | Mexa | hmm |
| 22:33.58 | Mexa | Adn what timezone is this? |
| 22:34.16 | Kueken | its 23.34 currently for me |
| 22:34.23 | Kueken | so this was 5 hours ago |
| 22:34.40 | Kueken | almost exactly |
| 22:35.19 | Mexa | Hmm |
| 22:35.21 | Mexa | Thanks |
| 22:35.27 | Mexa | Fuck my computer :| |
| 22:35.57 | Kueken | dont break your tentacles :D |
| 22:36.14 | Mexa | I wasn't going to rape it myself .__ |
| 22:36.25 | Kueken | oh |
| 22:36.28 | Kueken | too bad |
| 22:36.36 | Mexa | I suppose I could beat it up though.. |
| 22:36.40 | Vailreth | snort |
| 22:37.21 | Mexa | I'm trying to locate a crash, which seems to happend related to my lan network usage |
| 22:37.26 | Mexa | And this is what I have |
| 22:37.28 | Mexa | "The previous system shutdown at 18:28:45 on ?2011-?10-?31 was unexpected." |
| 22:37.32 | Mexa | gg.. |
| 22:37.51 | Kueken | sounds like a crapton of information |
| 22:38.13 | Kueken | reminds me of the galaxy debug window |
| 22:38.34 | Kueken | or the compiler errors |
| 22:39.00 | Mexa | somewhat |
| 22:39.04 | Kueken | "there is something wrong somewhere" |
| 22:39.10 | Kueken | yeah, thanks, noticed that |
| 22:39.43 | Mexa | ¨Only that this dissallow any progress to be saved, and the computer to freeze, doing nothing, and the fucking event viewer is pointless as it couldn't find the error |
| 22:40.00 | Shadowwolf | time zone is usa est |
| 22:42.49 | Frostwind | is so bored |
| 22:43.34 | Frostwind | Anyone wanna try Beezid.com for free with 25 free bids? |
| 22:44.50 | Shadowwolf | im good, I got no credit card :P |
| 22:45.05 | Shadowwolf | now that im done eating back to work LOL |
| 22:45.09 | Shadowwolf | imma finish this map |
| 22:45.40 | Frostwind | :( |
| 22:46.03 | Frostwind | I wish I had a project to work on. sadly i don't |
| 22:46.30 | Shadowwolf | :P |
| 22:46.52 | Shadowwolf | well I still gotta ge tthis worker to harvest 750 minerals at a time |
| 22:46.56 | Shadowwolf | or maybe just 250 |
| 22:46.57 | Frostwind | There is no one who wants to start a project with me |
| 22:47.15 | Shadowwolf | I got a few ideas if you think you can handle them, But im a noob at the editor |
| 22:47.27 | Shadowwolf | All ideas are very advanced |
| 22:47.44 | Shadowwolf | :( |
| 22:48.14 | Frostwind | All I have for a basic idea is either arena style or rpg |
| 22:48.22 | Vailreth | hitme |
| 22:48.34 | Frostwind | hits Vailreth |
| 22:48.50 | Frostwind | There you go. Happy now? |
| 22:48.54 | Shadowwolf | Hmm a Starcraft chess, or Evolves/ Footmen Frenzy mix |
| 22:49.14 | Shadowwolf | A trainer defense game, where after set times, a 6 pool gets sent at you |
| 22:49.17 | Shadowwolf | and then a 4 gate |
| 22:49.19 | Shadowwolf | and some others |
| 22:49.41 | Shadowwolf | A Starcaft Pacman |
| 22:50.12 | Shadowwolf | A run kitty run style game, but using mazes from Worldshardestgame.com |
| 22:50.27 | Shadowwolf | Thats it for most of my Ideas |
| 22:50.27 | Frostwind | grrr, I wish I could find someone to invite to Beezid.com |
| 22:50.42 | Shadowwolf | LOL why do you need someone to be invited to beezid? |
| 22:51.15 | Frostwind | cuz if someone joins through me and buys a bid pack I get 200 bids for it |
| 22:51.27 | Shadowwolf | :P |
| 22:52.32 | Frostwind | plus this Thur is 2% price freeze and Fri is 10% price freeze plus get all your bids back |
| 22:52.39 | Frostwind | and free shipping |
| 22:54.33 | Shadowwolf | :P |
| 22:54.49 | Shadowwolf | Okay frost how do I change the Gather amount agian? |
| 22:55.10 | Frostwind | look at the gather skill. |
| 22:55.15 | Frostwind | find the 'Resource Amount Bonus' |
| 22:55.37 | Shadowwolf | in the data editor under the abilities tab? |
| 22:55.59 | Frostwind | yea |
| 22:56.07 | Shadowwolf | ok |
| 22:58.38 | A1win | does ability range take caster and target radius into account? |
| 22:59.21 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 23:04.12 | Frostwind | is so bored |
| 23:04.50 | Xaragoth | starts poking random people with a pitchfork. |
| 23:05.27 | A1win | apparently it does |
| 23:07.25 | Frostwind | :( |
| 23:08.08 | Shadowwolf | WOOT GO IT |
| 23:08.23 | Shadowwolf | i had to go to behaviors and set it there so it now does it for all builders |
| 23:10.38 | A1win | wooot I can use the stimpack lightning icon to indicate when a building is powered or unpowered =O |
| 23:13.50 | A1win | any ideas which model to use for a terran "forge" that smelts metal ores into metals? |
| 23:16.11 | Shadowwolf | wtf... like half of the units I can add tto the map are gone from the list, so are half the buildings... |
| 23:17.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster tigger0jk (tigger0jk@dynamic2-245-006.usc.edu) |
| 23:31.45 | Vailreth | A1 you have to use the holo stripper |
| 23:32.20 | Shadowwolf | ok now just gotta figure out how to make fixed teams and change starting resources |
| 23:34.31 | A1win | Vailreth, you're the second person who told me that |
| 23:34.46 | Vailreth | really? |
| 23:35.46 | A1win | yeah :> a friend of mine told me to put it to some secret area |
| 23:36.00 | Vailreth | secret nothing |
| 23:36.07 | Vailreth | shee needs to be on a store or something |
| 23:36.12 | A1win | hehe |
| 23:36.35 | Vailreth | have you seen her other seven odd animations |
| 23:37.03 | A1win | mmh don't think so |
| 23:37.45 | Vailreth | you need to |
| 23:38.21 | Shadowwolf | how do i set ceratin players to a team? |
| 23:44.18 | Vailreth | i wonder if i could make a holo queen, and make it "dance" and put that over the infested bars |
| 23:46.19 | Shadowwolf | anyone know how to set the starting resources? |
| 23:48.03 | A1win | make a trigger with event "map initialization" and action "pick each player in all players: modify player property - set (picked player) minerals to whatever" |
| 23:48.14 | JademusSreg | I return. |
| 23:48.36 | Shadowwolf | ok |
| 23:49.48 | *** join/#sc2mapster Agouti (~Agouti@60-240-3-202.tpgi.com.au) |
| 23:51.36 | Shadowwolf | It says default is 50 minerals and I twont let me Modify that value |
| 23:51.52 | A1win | what says? |
| 23:52.20 | Shadowwolf | I did a new triggeer, event and acton go tthat far |
| 23:52.24 | Shadowwolf | then i failed |
| 23:52.32 | Shadowwolf | I set players to all players |
| 23:52.52 | A1win | did you create the "Pick Each Player In Player Group" action? |
| 23:52.55 | Shadowwolf | then clicked a new action and click set starting resources |
| 23:53.06 | A1win | that's a melee function, you can't use that |
| 23:53.49 | Agouti | you can set the default starting minerals in the player properties |
| 23:53.58 | Shadowwolf | alright Ill start from scratch and try agian |
| 23:54.07 | A1win | Agouti, oh |
| 23:55.00 | Shadowwolf | ok im i did make a trigger with event "map initialization" and action "pick each player in all players: modify player property |
| 23:55.06 | Shadowwolf | i cant see where to set the minerals |
| 23:55.43 | Shadowwolf | This is my first trigger lol |
| 23:56.32 | A1win | bottom right corner has the thing you modify |
| 23:56.45 | A1win | click on the blue links and it will let you choose different values |
| 23:57.26 | Shadowwolf | one sec |
| 23:58.30 | Shadowwolf | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Untitled-7.png |
| 23:58.33 | Shadowwolf | thats where im at |
| 23:58.44 | A1win | ah |
| 23:59.09 | A1win | click on the "Actions" part, then create a new action |
| 23:59.16 | A1win | and choose Modify Player Property |
| 23:59.37 | Shadowwolf | ok there we go |
| 23:59.50 | A1win | the Pick each player thing is a loop that does actions once for each player in the player group you specify (All players in this case) |
