IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20110928

`00:00.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa_ (~Mexa@80.78.216.142)`
`00:03.39`	`Mexa_`	`Neat`
`00:04.00`	`Mexa_`	`Google search based on voice is pretty awesome`
`00:07.05`	`Mexa_`	`Although, trying to mimic the breathing of Darth Vader translated to "ass ass"`
`00:15.23`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa_ (~Mexa@80.78.216.142)`
`00:16.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Frall (Frall@h-49-25.a212.priv.bahnhof.se)`
`00:21.06`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa_ (~Mexa@80.78.216.142)`
`00:24.54`	`Dustin`	`wassaa`
`00:25.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa_ (~Mexa@80.78.216.142)`
`00:25.32`	`Aelie`	`dustin`
`00:25.39`	`Aelie`	`http://i.imgur.com/oCiFQ.jpg`
`00:25.51`	`Dustin`	`oh shit nice`
`00:25.55`	`Aelie`	`lol`
`00:26.09`	`Dustin`	`That looks painful`
`00:26.17`	`Aelie`	`i had already gotten a great aqua earlier`
`00:33.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Back.`
`00:33.53`	`JademusSreg`	`Hi Motive.`
`00:33.53`	`Aelie`	`jade`
`00:34.04`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`00:34.06`	`Aelie`	`im considering increasing later ground wave hp`
`00:34.36`	`JademusSreg`	`As a substitute for damage reduction? =D`
`00:34.39`	`Aelie`	`oh`
`00:34.42`	`Aelie`	`im doing that anyway`
`00:34.50`	`JademusSreg`	`Aw.`
`00:36.15`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa_ (~Mexa@80.78.216.142)`
`00:36.33`	`Aelie`	`no i mean`
`00:36.39`	`Aelie`	`im changing it to be straight hp`
`00:37.17`	`Aelie`	`http://pastebin.com/ysWUSSiA`
`00:37.25`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah.`
`00:38.21`	`JademusSreg`	`(In a match.)`
`00:42.50`	`Dustin`	`Aelie`
`00:42.53`	`Dustin`	`Lets play some GEM TD`
`00:43.13`	`Aelie`	`in a bit`
`00:43.16`	`Aelie`	`im changing hp`
`00:43.22`	`Dustin`	`kk`
`00:43.26`	`Aelie`	`unless you just want to play ill host`
`00:43.48`	`Dustin`	`Yeah me and my bro want to duke it out`
`00:45.27`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Xapti (~quassel@S0106001fbc08a819.wp.shawcable.net)`
`01:04.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Reactorex_ (~Reactorex@66.185.79.182)`
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`01:19.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Vailreth\|2 (~kvirc@75.108.215.142)`
`01:21.27`	`Vailreth\|2`	`hello folks`
`01:35.25`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Agouti (~Agouti@60-240-3-202.tpgi.com.au)`
`01:37.26`	`Vailreth\|2`	`r`
`01:37.33`	`Vailreth\|2`	`grr`
`01:38.29`	`Vailreth\|2`	`hmm maybe`
`01:45.42`	`Vailreth\|2`	`grr this makes no sense`
`01:47.13`	`Vailreth\|2`	`any one know why a Unit is also being treated like a point`
`01:47.49`	`Vailreth\|2`	`ProzaicMuze, sorry if i am disturbing`
`01:54.25`	`egod`	`IM BACK`
`01:59.56`	`Dustin`	`You left?`
`02:00.09`	`egod`	`for work`
`02:00.18`	`Vailreth\|2`	`why are there two impact effects for my one missile???`
`02:00.43`	`egod`	`ok, i was on`
`02:00.46`	`egod`	`effect`
`02:00.50`	`egod`	`lets see`
`02:00.54`	`egod`	`i created model/actor`
`02:01.26`	`egod`	`i figured out the (effect) i want is in Doodas: Bloodimpact3.m3 somthing like this`
`02:01.38`	`egod`	`blood on the ground`
`02:01.50`	`egod`	`lets see if i can add this thing`
`02:03.29`	`egod`	`i dont get how i link the thing i want with the model or actor you told me to make`
`02:03.49`	`egod`	`ohhh`
`02:03.53`	`egod`	`Model of Model`
`02:03.56`	`egod`	`ok but`
`02:04.15`	`egod`	`its Assets/Doodas/BloodSplats_05.m3`
`02:04.40`	`egod`	`now how i apply this`
`02:06.02`	`Dustin`	`no no no`
`02:06.08`	`Dustin`	`There's Effects, Actors, models`
`02:06.11`	`Dustin`	`in the data editor`
`02:06.21`	`Dustin`	`You need an Actor, A Model, and an Effect`
`02:06.27`	`Dustin`	`The Effect is Create persistant`
`02:06.31`	`egod`	`kk, so i make a effect now`
`02:06.52`	`egod`	`lets see`
`02:08.03`	`egod`	`Behavior?`
`02:08.08`	`egod`	`Apply force`
`02:08.16`	`egod`	`Destroy Persistent?`
`02:08.20`	`egod`	`what type of effect`
`02:08.31`	`egod`	`Create Persitant`
`02:08.32`	`egod`	`i got it`
`02:08.38`	`Vailreth\|2`	`hot damn it works it works and it wroks perfectly`
`02:08.47`	`Dustin`	`Ok now go to your actor events`
`02:08.56`	`egod`	`hm ok`
`02:09.01`	`Dustin`	`And add a new one, Effect > your Effect name, then Create`
`02:09.35`	`egod`	`what?`
`02:09.43`	`egod`	`i create another effect?`
`02:10.05`	`Dustin`	`no`
`02:10.08`	`Dustin`	`thats in the actor message`
`02:10.23`	`egod`	`k let me see`
`02:11.15`	`Vailreth\|2`	`this is soo w00tastic`
`02:11.39`	`egod`	`by the way dustin, im mapping live now: http://www.livestream.com/egodzeldax2drpg`
`02:11.46`	`egod`	`let me see`
`02:13.39`	`egod`	`i dont find Actor message`
`02:13.41`	`egod`	`where is this`
`02:14.35`	`Dustin`	`Actor Events`
`02:14.41`	`Dustin`	`Have you not used the data editor at all? :P`
`02:15.03`	`egod`	`hm`
`02:15.31`	`egod`	`Events: Send /Target//Terms`
`02:15.49`	`Dustin`	`there`
`02:15.49`	`Dustin`	`Right click`
`02:15.49`	`Dustin`	`Ho back`
`02:15.50`	`Dustin`	`go`
`02:15.53`	`*** join/#sc2mapster tordy (60fa6869@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.250.104.105)`
`02:15.56`	`tordy`	`omg it's stragus!`
`02:15.57`	`tordy`	`where you ben maN!`
`02:16.03`	`Dustin`	`Right click`
`02:16.06`	`Dustin`	`And go Add Term`
`02:16.16`	`Dustin`	`Event`
`02:16.17`	`Dustin`	`Sorry`
`02:16.20`	`Dustin`	`Add event`
`02:16.40`	`Dustin`	`Now the top part`
`02:16.42`	`Dustin`	`Put effect`
`02:16.48`	`Dustin`	`then the next field find your effect`
`02:16.52`	`Dustin`	`Then the next put start`
`02:17.10`	`egod`	`Sub name?`
`02:17.17`	`Dustin`	`start`
`02:17.32`	`Dustin`	`k now go to the term`
`02:17.35`	`egod`	`that its&`
`02:17.38`	`Dustin`	`no no`
`02:17.38`	`egod`	`?`
`02:17.40`	`Dustin`	`go back`
`02:17.44`	`Dustin`	`You have to tell it to create`
`02:17.53`	`egod`	`create what`
`02:17.58`	`Dustin`	`Change that to create`
`02:18.04`	`Dustin`	`This is creating the actor`
`02:18.11`	`Dustin`	`Click down`
`02:18.16`	`Dustin`	`on the tree`
`02:18.19`	`Dustin`	`Damnit`
`02:18.22`	`egod`	`amg lol`
`02:18.25`	`Dustin`	`Stop clickign back to the one I tell you not to :OP`
`02:18.39`	`Dustin`	`Change that to Create`
`02:18.42`	`Dustin`	`god damnit`
`02:18.50`	`egod`	`LOL`
`02:18.52`	`egod`	`where`
`02:19.17`	`Dustin`	`Ok`
`02:19.21`	`Dustin`	`On the actor event thing`
`02:19.26`	`Vailreth\|2`	`my attack ground seeker missile is da bomb literally even`
`02:19.28`	`Dustin`	`UNDER the Event you made and jsut set`
`02:19.37`	`Dustin`	`There another list item`
`02:19.43`	`Dustin`	`Click that and then go to the right and change it to create`
`02:19.57`	`Dustin`	`UNDEr that`
`02:20.04`	`Dustin`	`dude`
`02:20.22`	`egod`	`im confuse`
`02:20.27`	`egod`	`let me read`
`02:20.49`	`egod`	`got it`
`02:20.56`	`Dustin`	`lol god damn`
`02:20.58`	`egod`	`after?`
`02:21.31`	`Dustin`	`Ok`
`02:21.35`	`Dustin`	`Now you're done with actor events`
`02:21.42`	`Dustin`	`Do you have your model linked in your actor?`
`02:21.42`	`egod`	`phew`
`02:21.48`	`egod`	`yes i think`
`02:21.55`	`Dustin`	`K, now you're good to go`
`02:22.01`	`Dustin`	`Just run the effect where u want`
`02:22.03`	`tordy`	`woah ekcolnovkol sighting`
`02:22.07`	`egod`	`lets see`
`02:22.43`	`egod`	`hm`
`02:22.45`	`egod`	`testing`
`02:22.56`	`egod`	`its looking good`
`02:23.56`	`egod`	`i think data editor is shit`
`02:25.00`	`Aelie`	`it isnt shit`
`02:25.02`	`Aelie`	`youre just bad`
`02:25.03`	`Aelie`	`:D`
`02:25.58`	`egod`	`nice blood`
`02:30.48`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Vailreth (~kvirc@75.108.215.142)`
`02:31.13`	`Vailreth`	`hmm`
`02:31.25`	`Vailreth`	`and now im Vailreth again`
`02:32.45`	`Vailreth`	`hey does any one know if a presitent effect can offset the location of another effect along the Z?`
`02:37.53`	`egod`	`its working pretty well dustin`
`02:38.22`	`egod`	`i should rename my map: made by dustin`
`02:40.08`	`Dustin`	`Prob :P hehe`
`02:42.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Sixen@173-29-13-13.client.mchsi.com)`
`02:42.36`	`*** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ`
`02:42.57`	`Vailreth`	`edrob ma i enod staht taht won llew`
`02:43.00`	`JademusSreg`	`Back.`
`02:43.18`	`Vailreth`	`i mean now that i have finished that ability im bored`
`02:44.40`	`egod`	`Next step: Cut a Bush with the Sword`
`02:47.01`	`Dustin`	`Ya it might be something youll have to adjust after you get public feedback`
`02:47.12`	`Aelie`	`yep`
`02:47.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Ael.`
`02:47.58`	`JademusSreg`	`I think you ought to add unit tooltips, ya know, when the user hovers the cursor over the unit wireframe.`
`02:48.01`	`egod`	`there any death animation where is just blood only ?`
`02:48.26`	`JademusSreg`	`And/or weapon tooltips to describe what makes them special.`
`02:48.52`	`Dustin`	`He has those as ability tooltips`
`02:48.55`	`Dustin`	`On the gems`
`02:49.38`	`JademusSreg`	`I do not recall such a thing. Clarify?`
`02:49.50`	`Dustin`	`If you click on a gem`
`02:49.53`	`Dustin`	`Theres a +`
`02:49.56`	`Dustin`	`On the command card`
`02:50.04`	`Dustin`	`Tells you what the towers attack does and any abilities`
`02:50.17`	`Dustin`	`Also theres one to the right of that that tells you what it combines with and into what`
`02:50.53`	`JademusSreg`	`Hm.`
`02:51.01`	`JademusSreg`	`I would not have thought to check there.`
`02:51.40`	`JademusSreg`	`When I want to know about a unit, I hover over the wireframe. When I want to know about a weapon, I hover over the weapon icon.`
`02:51.58`	`Aelie`	`?`
`02:52.12`	`Aelie`	`really?`
`02:52.22`	`Aelie`	`ive never thought to hover the wireframe`
`02:52.25`	`Dustin`	`Makes sense`
`02:52.33`	`Aelie`	`but honestly`
`02:52.40`	`Aelie`	`some of the weapon tooltips are long`
`02:53.02`	`Aelie`	`i honestly cant believe you wouldnt even hover your unit's abilities to see what it has`
`02:53.24`	`Aelie`	`i mean, i thought the +'s were obvious`
`02:53.25`	`JademusSreg`	`I never even noticed the plus sign on the command card.`
`02:53.44`	`Vailreth`	`hey SoulTaker you here? some how i doubt`
`02:53.59`	`JademusSreg`	`But that's a good place to show combo information, now that ya mention it.`
`02:54.11`	`JademusSreg`	`Of course, custom icons would be nice...`
`02:56.19`	`Aelie`	`http://i.imgur.com/NqFlT.jpg`
`02:56.53`	`Aelie`	`custom icons... dont care so much`
`02:57.00`	`Aelie`	`the icons arent even used anyhow`
`02:57.13`	`JademusSreg`	`I never paid any attention to those, haha.`
`02:57.22`	`Aelie`	`i dont understand how`
`02:57.31`	`Vailreth`	`there is nothing to call attention to them`
`02:57.39`	`Aelie`	`thats like the first thing i check when i get a new unit in a game`
`02:57.53`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, I wouldn't underestimate how informative custom icons can be. I think you just don't wanna burden yourself with artistic responsibilities. =D`
`02:58.06`	`Aelie`	`i have no artistic skil`
`02:58.07`	`Aelie`	`l`
`02:58.20`	`Aelie`	`and like i said`
`02:58.27`	`Aelie`	`i dont see any point to making icons for all the gems`
`02:58.31`	`Aelie`	`when you wont ever see them`
`02:58.36`	`egod`	`you guys see the front page of sc2mapster? another Hero Survival map LOL what a joke`
`02:58.40`	`Vailreth`	`well you could splice together existing icons to get the idea across`
`02:58.53`	`Aelie`	`...`
`02:58.55`	`JademusSreg`	`Icons for all the gems? Wha?`
`02:59.00`	`Aelie`	`custom icons?`
`02:59.11`	`JademusSreg`	`I mean for the abilities, like combine, keep, special combo, shit like that.`
`03:01.08`	`Vailreth`	`i used baneling spooge and minesplatter together to create my wound icon`
`03:01.27`	`Vailreth`	`not that anyone will ever see it sigh`
`03:01.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`03:02.14`	`Aelie`	`i think the combine/keep/special combo buttons look nice`
`03:02.42`	`Aelie`	`if people wont look at them now`
`03:02.51`	`Vailreth`	`its for a zerg hero and the ability gives him a buff that when he attacks applies a wound buff of one for levels`
`03:02.52`	`Aelie`	`what makes you think they will with any icon`
`03:02.55`	`JademusSreg`	`Excuses!`
`03:03.00`	`Aelie`	`no`
`03:03.05`	`Aelie`	`i just dont see the point`
`03:03.15`	`Aelie`	`i put info all over in the map`
`03:03.22`	`Aelie`	`if people willfully dont look at anything`
`03:03.26`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`03:03.28`	`Aelie`	`and then complain that they cant win`
`03:03.36`	`Aelie`	`they can go fuck themselves :D`
`03:03.56`	`JademusSreg`	`It's not willful; the buttons do nothing to get my attention, the icons are not indicative of their function.`
`03:04.03`	`Aelie`	`i think they are`
`03:04.15`	`Dustin`	`I think Im gonna do some Ruthless testing later`
`03:04.26`	`Dustin`	`Figure out a way to get Missiles that arnet fucking retarded`
`03:04.31`	`Aelie`	`im gonna change to your help comment`
`03:04.39`	`Aelie`	`"youre gonna leak because you didnt read the instructions"`
`03:04.51`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`03:04.52`	`JademusSreg`	`Yess`
`03:05.17`	`Aelie`	`i dont feel like ive left any of the nuances of the game unexplained`
`03:05.25`	`Aelie`	`i just took out the one thing i felt was weird`
`03:05.35`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`03:05.44`	`Aelie`	`the damage reducing on waves`
`03:05.51`	`Aelie`	`i calculated it out and made their hp`
`03:06.00`	`Aelie`	`higher to compensate`
`03:06.14`	`Aelie`	`kerrigan now has something like 245k hp`
`03:06.21`	`Dustin`	`She got pwned by me`
`03:06.29`	`Aelie`	`(not that it mattered, they still only got halfway through dustins maze)`
`03:06.47`	`Aelie`	`sorry`
`03:06.53`	`Aelie`	`i can only idiot proof the map so much`
`03:06.55`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`03:07.41`	`Aelie`	`ok`
`03:07.42`	`Aelie`	`so`
`03:07.47`	`Aelie`	`suppose i wanted a leaderboard`
`03:07.57`	`Aelie`	`that had 100 entries, but only showed the top 5`
`03:09.26`	`JademusSreg`	`I don't mess with yucky leaderboards, so I'm not much use there.`
`03:10.00`	`Aelie`	`...`
`03:10.12`	`Aelie`	`suppose i wanted a dialog leaderboard`
`03:10.14`	`Aelie`	`that had 100 entries, but only showed the top 5`
`03:10.17`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah.`
`03:10.38`	`Aelie`	`it doesnt matter if i use leaderboard or dialog`
`03:10.43`	`Aelie`	`how would i get the top 5`
`03:10.58`	`JademusSreg`	`Well, you'd store the data separately, of course. Then evaluate and display it as needed.`
`03:11.18`	`Aelie`	`i wanted to make a "tower kills leaderboard"`
`03:11.31`	`JademusSreg`	`A viral stat tracker?`
`03:11.37`	`Aelie`	`?`
`03:11.44`	`Aelie`	`viral stat?`
`03:12.04`	`JademusSreg`	`It's an approach used to circulate top player stats.`
`03:12.11`	`Aelie`	`nah`
`03:12.30`	`Aelie`	`i just want to show the top 5 leveled towers in the current game`
`03:12.55`	`Dustin`	`Just run some sorts`
`03:12.55`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah.`
`03:13.10`	`Dustin`	`You'll have to store stats in real time probably`
`03:13.29`	`Dustin`	`Wtf, foot prints are fucking retarded`
`03:13.37`	`Vailreth`	`http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/vailreth/btn-hero-zerg-lash-wound.jpg`
`03:13.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah, storing 100 values is kinda pointless if you only need the top 5 anyway.`
`03:14.01`	`Aelie`	`just saying`
`03:14.07`	`Aelie`	`there might be 100 towers in game`
`03:14.10`	`Aelie`	`but i only need 5`
`03:14.11`	`Aelie`	`:p`
`03:14.28`	`JademusSreg`	`You'll iterate across all the towers on the map, and sort more or less as you iterate.`
`03:14.34`	`Aelie`	`yeah`
`03:14.40`	`Aelie`	`i just thought of that`
`03:14.53`	`Aelie`	`probably would be easier to add the active towers to a unit group`
`03:17.21`	`Aelie`	`i am trying to think of more pointless stats to report to people`
`03:19.52`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`03:19.53`	`Dustin`	`Highest Tower Crit, highest tower Damage, Most Towers, most specials, Most One Shots, longest maze,`
`03:20.14`	`Aelie`	`eh`
`03:20.16`	`Aelie`	`oh`
`03:20.20`	`Aelie`	`one shots as in specials`
`03:20.23`	`Dustin`	`You'd have to store stats on some of those along the way`
`03:20.26`	`Dustin`	`ya`
`03:20.32`	`Aelie`	`im like... you wont be one shotting anything past like level 3`
`03:20.36`	`Dustin`	`hehe`
`03:20.38`	`JademusSreg`	`Most Radical Haircut, Prettiest Arrangement, Most Juvenile Drawing With Towers`
`03:20.44`	`Aelie`	`:D`
`03:20.49`	`Aelie`	`i can do the last one`
`03:20.52`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`03:20.59`	`Aelie`	`goes to work on dong recognition`
`03:21.04`	`Dustin`	`im gonna make my mazel ook like a penis everytime`
`03:21.12`	`Aelie`	`yeah`
`03:21.15`	`Aelie`	`a 4 sided dong`
`03:21.19`	`Dustin`	`My maze the other day looked like a tri dildo`
`03:22.27`	`Aelie`	`ive been trying to think of some way to use the right side of the unit pane`
`03:23.48`	`Aelie`	`attributes`
`03:23.51`	`Aelie`	`just an int?`
`03:24.06`	`Aelie`	`would it be bad if a tower had say.. a few hundred thousand in one?`
`03:27.18`	`Dustin`	`Fuck these fucking footprints`
`03:27.26`	`JademusSreg`	`Wha'ts up Dustin?`
`03:27.27`	`Dustin`	`Half the time I cant edit the squares`
`03:27.36`	`Dustin`	`And there's two sets of shit`
`03:27.49`	`Dustin`	`And the pathing doesnt save after I make it and bring it back up`
`03:27.53`	`JademusSreg`	`Shapes, and Layers, yup.`
`03:28.02`	`JademusSreg`	`And yeah, each time you edit Shape, you have to redraw it.`
`03:28.06`	`Dustin`	`The whole thing just doesnt make much damn sense`
`03:28.07`	`JademusSreg`	`It's been a problem since beta.`
`03:28.27`	`JademusSreg`	`-And- they don't display in the terrain editor.`
`03:28.44`	`JademusSreg`	`(Unless inherited from a dependency, I'm told.)`
`03:32.30`	`egod`	`there is like NO death animation in all the fucking char sets of zelda i found out`
`03:32.37`	`egod`	`i got tons`
`03:32.39`	`Dustin`	`Jade, do you know what modifys a buildings dropoff range for resourceS?`
`03:32.39`	`egod`	`fuk that`
`03:33.03`	`JademusSreg`	`Hm.`
`03:34.11`	`Aelie`	`death of what`
`03:35.00`	`Aelie`	`http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8311/linkbluespritesheet.png`
`03:35.02`	`Aelie`	`some on here`
`03:35.17`	`egod`	`i need the X on the ennemy when he die with the (skull)`
`03:35.34`	`egod`	`whatever`
`03:35.40`	`egod`	`i got tons and cant find it`
`03:35.46`	`egod`	`so will just use blood`
`03:35.52`	`JademusSreg`	`Odd that it doesn't provide a range in the unit's stats.`
`03:36.09`	`JademusSreg`	`So I'd suggest tinkering with radius, since that seems intuitive.`
`03:36.21`	`Aelie`	`inner radius`
`03:36.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Whichevah.`
`03:36.34`	`Aelie`	`"determines how far a unit can interact with buildings"`
`03:36.39`	`Dustin`	`I tried editing the movement radius`
`03:38.49`	`Dustin`	`inner radius is only max 7.75`
`03:38.52`	`Dustin`	`wtf is that`
`03:42.00`	`Dustin`	`Im just gonna make a path into the Command center`
`03:42.42`	`Dustin`	`Yeah thats not gonna work`
`03:43.10`	`egod`	`can we get the (playername) for saved bank now?`
`03:43.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`jade`
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`03:44.22`	`JademusSreg`	`You can store player handle (string).`
`03:44.23`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`03:44.34`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im tyring to deform terrain`
`03:44.36`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but i notice`
`03:44.44`	`SoulTaker916_`	`when i make the actor and effect`
`03:44.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it only deforms once`
`03:45.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`second attack does nothing`
`03:45.04`	`JademusSreg`	`I've not tinkered with that at all, so I cannot assist.`
`03:45.26`	`SoulTaker916_`	`;/`
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`03:57.11`	`Dustin`	`Should I just say fuck the skill shooter part`
`03:57.20`	`Dustin`	`And make it use the normal sc2 combat?`
`03:57.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`what r u maing?`
`03:57.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`making*`
`03:57.49`	`Dustin`	`Savage 2 type map`
`03:57.57`	`SoulTaker916_`	`never played savage`
`03:58.22`	`Dustin`	`Two teams`
`03:58.27`	`Dustin`	`7 players each team`
`03:58.37`	`Dustin`	`1 palyer on each team is commander and plays RTS view`
`03:58.46`	`Dustin`	`Other 6 play as class units`
`03:58.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`is this one rts`
`03:59.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`controling the other men?`
`03:59.05`	`Dustin`	`And you have to destroy the other teams base and expand and shit`
`03:59.10`	`Dustin`	`well`
`03:59.16`	`Dustin`	`Savage is like a Thirdperson melee/shooter`
`03:59.22`	`Dustin`	`For the class play`
`03:59.25`	`SoulTaker916_`	`cause if u introduce that to a sc2 enviroment`
`03:59.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`people will flame and troll`
`03:59.31`	`Dustin`	`I had planned a Diablo style skill shot mechanic`
`03:59.32`	`SoulTaker916_`	`kinda like u do to me`
`03:59.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`03:59.51`	`SoulTaker916_`	`anyways`
`03:59.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how hard is it to make rts?`
`03:59.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i mena`
`04:00.02`	`Dustin`	`Easy as fuck`
`04:00.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so do it`
`04:00.09`	`SoulTaker916_`	`let them pick`
`04:00.34`	`SoulTaker916_`	`my experience is`
`04:00.39`	`SoulTaker916_`	`which is worthless`
`04:00.42`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but here it is`
`04:00.44`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`04:01.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`give them the option let them pick u dotn nessecaraly have to tell them theres a option unless its a issue`
`04:01.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`throw it into help`
`04:01.14`	`Dustin`	`Well its the core gameplay mechanic`
`04:01.21`	`Dustin`	`I dont want two different mechanics`
`04:01.26`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ah`
`04:01.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well`
`04:01.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u got a test version going?`
`04:01.42`	`Dustin`	`Alpha build im workin on`
`04:01.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well ill test`
`04:01.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`give u feed back`
`04:02.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but i dont know enoguh to give a oppinion`
`04:02.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i havent really played any good first person shooters`
`04:02.31`	`Dustin`	`k ill upload`
`04:02.37`	`Dustin`	`Its not fps`
`04:02.42`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and the ones that seemed fun lagged me for rendering the entire map`
`04:02.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well`
`04:02.44`	`SoulTaker916_`	`third`
`04:02.47`	`SoulTaker916_`	`or second`
`04:02.48`	`Dustin`	`its like`
`04:02.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`w/e`
`04:02.54`	`Dustin`	`3rd top down`
`04:02.56`	`Dustin`	`or some shit lol`
`04:03.09`	`egod`	`3rd top down?`
`04:03.15`	`egod`	`wtf you talking`
`04:04.01`	`egod`	`you making a map better than mine??? dustin noooooooooooooo`
`04:04.53`	`Dustin`	`Fool you took my first top down shooter system already :P`
`04:05.04`	`Dustin`	`And this alot different`
`04:05.12`	`egod`	`hahahaha`
`04:05.40`	`Dustin`	`soul are you NA?`
`04:06.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`si`
`04:06.17`	`Dustin`	`Wanna check it out?`
`04:06.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`si`
`04:06.26`	`Dustin`	`Dustin 374`
`04:06.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`si`
`04:06.42`	`Dustin`	`egod, come hop on to`
`04:06.51`	`egod`	`k`
`04:07.04`	`egod`	`logging`
`04:07.51`	`egod`	`there 2x guys in sc2mapster channel`
`04:08.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`people atually hang out there?`
`04:08.14`	`egod`	`lol`
`04:08.19`	`Dustin`	`usually 1 guy lol`
`04:08.23`	`Dustin`	`k, soul lets rock`
`04:08.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`kk`
`04:09.01`	`egod`	`you crashed my sc2`
`04:09.10`	`Dustin`	`lol`
`04:09.15`	`Dustin`	`L2download map :P`
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`04:10.13`	`egod`	`my computer have crash`
`04:10.29`	`egod`	`next time`
`04:42.34`	`Dustin`	`I dont know what they did to force effects, but i dont like it`
`04:42.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well i dont like it either`
`04:42.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but its for insparation`
`04:44.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how do i change the tint of a actor in data?`
`04:45.21`	`Dustin`	`Actor message`
`04:45.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`actore - message?`
`04:45.42`	`Dustin`	`Actor Event, Add an actor message`
`04:47.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it wont let me add message`
`04:47.39`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its greyed otu`
`04:48.25`	`Dustin`	`Right click and Add new Event`
`04:48.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ok i see msg type?`
`04:49.26`	`Dustin`	`You want to set that to Actor Creation`
`04:49.41`	`Dustin`	`then the Event Term needs to be Set tint`
`04:51.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so`
`04:51.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`actor creation>set tint color(sub)`
`04:52.39`	`SoulTaker916_`	`oh hey it works`
`04:52.50`	`Dustin`	`:)`
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`06:13.10`	`Currydevil`	`Is it possible to call effects based on conditions? ie: a unit is alive, do action A, unit is dead, do action B?`
`06:14.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Calrify?`
`06:14.31`	`JademusSreg`	`In data or in triggers?`
`06:14.37`	`Currydevil`	`data`
`06:14.42`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah.`
`06:14.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Use a Switch Effect.`
`06:15.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Each case in the switch effect has a condition, a validator, to evaluate the case.`
`06:15.10`	`Currydevil`	`Oh switch effect, sweet .. i must not have been paying enough attention to see it`
`06:15.17`	`JademusSreg`	`No problem.`
`06:15.43`	`Currydevil`	`So.. in my case, I want to enumerate area for both cases.. one checking if the unit is alive (if it is do A) and the other checking if the unit is dead?`
`06:17.04`	`Currydevil`	`the hero has some calldown abilities with charges, and what I have set up is a persistent adding a charge back to the hero when the unit dies`
`06:17.30`	`Currydevil`	`problem is, I need the persistent to keep going if the hero is dead when it tries to reapply the charge`
`06:17.36`	`Currydevil`	`so, this switch should work perfectly`
`06:18.01`	`Currydevil`	`unless of course it's possible to add charges to a unit that is dead =O`
`06:20.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`Jade, how come i cant find los blocker in the models?`
`06:20.34`	`Currydevil`	`los blockers are usually doodads.`
`06:20.46`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ya i got moddels for all the doodads`
`06:20.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`except`
`06:20.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`los?`
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`06:21.12`	`Currydevil`	`where are you looking? in the previewer or doodad layer or what?`
`06:21.25`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im looking at actors -model`
`06:21.41`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ive done this for loads of doodads`
`06:21.44`	`SoulTaker916_`	`like 40 already`
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`06:50.07`	`Currydevil`	`I think it works... that's pretty cool`
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`07:08.37`	`Helral\|Work`	`los blocking is done with footprints...`
`07:09.30`	`Helral\|Work`	`also there are certain doodads that only block los, but not many.`
`07:09.45`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im trying to find the moddel`
`07:09.47`	`SoulTaker916_`	`not the block`
`07:09.58`	`Helral\|Work`	`which model?`
`07:10.11`	`Currydevil`	`there are no "models" though, they are just fancy bush doodads with the los blocking footprint on them`
`07:10.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the grass`
`07:10.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`oh...`
`07:11.08`	`Currydevil`	`they have the bush model so it looks legit ... "marine can't see through a thick bush" or "marine can't see through open air" >.<`
`07:11.29`	`Currydevil`	`invisible walls ... dun dun dun`
`07:22.51`	`SoulTaker916_`	`JAde`
`07:22.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`JADE JADDIE!!!`
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`10:04.30`	`Aelie`	`i wonder if regenerating the leaderboard every damage will be too much computation`
`10:04.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`na`
`10:05.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`as logn as u dont have 10000 hits`
`10:05.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i see no issue`
`10:05.42`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it takes the game i made 30 seconds to do 4million +`
`10:05.44`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so`
`10:05.45`	`SoulTaker916_`	`lol`
`10:05.59`	`Aelie`	`well`
`10:06.06`	`Aelie`	`theres gonna be a max of 50 towers per person`
`10:06.11`	`Aelie`	`and 8 people max`
`10:06.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its a sort operation that loops onto it self 50x3 loops and 4 sets`
`10:06.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so it add ups`
`10:06.41`	`Aelie`	`it isnt a sort, in fact`
`10:06.53`	`Aelie`	`it loops through each tower`
`10:07.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well thats fine`
`10:07.06`	`Aelie`	`sees if it bumps anything else off the top 5`
`10:07.12`	`SoulTaker916_`	`might take a second to complete the task`
`10:07.15`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the big issue`
`10:07.16`	`Aelie`	`at the end it updates the leaderboard`
`10:07.19`	`Aelie`	`well`
`10:07.21`	`SoulTaker916_`	`is u dont want too me instances`
`10:07.34`	`Aelie`	`if it takes more than a millisecond i cant link it to damage :p`
`10:07.39`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u should disable the trigger for a second then reable`
`10:08.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`cause if ur using`
`10:08.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`event - on attack`
`10:08.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and each one if firering`
`10:08.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`then`
`10:08.28`	`Aelie`	`i was gonna take event - unit takes damage`
`10:08.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ieach cannon shot will start the trigger`
`10:08.38`	`Aelie`	`yeah`
`10:08.44`	`Aelie`	`hence me asking...`
`10:08.46`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and u will have each cannon shot checking all the cannons`
`10:08.48`	`Aelie`	`what is this going to do to fps`
`10:09.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but if u disable the trigger for a .01 seconds`
`10:09.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it will stop the un-needed instances`
`10:09.18`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i do it with triggers that lag bnet`
`10:09.19`	`Aelie`	`.01 hmm`
`10:09.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`like mouse and keyboard`
`10:09.26`	`SoulTaker916_`	`do some thing like this`
`10:09.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`event- attack`
`10:09.42`	`SoulTaker916_`	`condition is enable==true`
`10:09.43`	`Aelie`	`i really only need one run for every loop MAX`
`10:09.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`action= set isenable ==false`
`10:10.07`	`Aelie`	`why not just do "disable this trigger`
`10:10.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`run trigger (loop and calculate and such)`
`10:10.09`	`Aelie`	`"wait"`
`10:10.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`wait .01`
`10:10.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`enable trigger`
`10:10.15`	`Aelie`	`"enable this trigger"`
`10:10.26`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u can`
`10:10.28`	`Aelie`	`no point making my own enable variable`
`10:10.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`either way`
`10:10.50`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u just want to lock it out from hitting the loop`
`10:10.57`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i mean he calculation`
`10:11.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`also`
`10:11.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`if u want to get really fancy`
`10:11.16`	`Aelie`	`im making a bunch of pointless leaderboards lol`
`10:11.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u can make wait adjustable`
`10:11.25`	`Aelie`	`fuck that`
`10:11.40`	`SoulTaker916_`	`why?`
`10:11.45`	`Aelie`	`?`
`10:11.47`	`SoulTaker916_`	`they u can increase the accurace`
`10:11.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`if u make the wait time adjustable`
`10:11.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`if the game is laggy`
`10:12.04`	`Aelie`	`if i have to cut it down to 1/s`
`10:12.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u can set it to be slower updating`
`10:12.10`	`Aelie`	`its not gonna break my heart`
`10:12.21`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`10:12.24`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well u got the idea`
`10:12.26`	`Aelie`	`:)`
`10:12.46`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u should see my map`
`10:12.52`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its visualy very pleasing`
`10:12.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`10:13.26`	`Aelie`	`oh?`
`10:13.30`	`Aelie`	`link me~`
`10:13.51`	`SoulTaker916_`	`1 sec`
`10:14.11`	`Aelie`	`http://i.imgur.com/q7kht.jpg`
`10:14.19`	`Aelie`	`woot pointless leaderboards!`
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`10:19.50`	`orphanus`	`hi guys`
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`10:22.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`omg`
`10:22.35`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im horny`
`10:22.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`jp`
`10:23.02`	`SoulTaker916_`	`https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/City.png?w=124ab167`
`10:23.21`	`Aelie`	`403`
`10:23.24`	`SoulTaker916_`	`https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Untitled.png?w=7d871828`
`10:23.24`	`Aelie`	`l2imgur`
`10:23.34`	`Aelie`	`same`
`10:23.39`	`Aelie`	`drop box is gay`
`10:24.08`	`Currydevil`	`not when it works =O`
`10:24.18`	`Aelie`	`if it ever doesnt work`
`10:24.18`	`orphanus`	`i have 2 problems here one with the bank and one with one ability`
`10:24.20`	`Aelie`	`its gay`
`10:24.43`	`Currydevil`	`i haven't had any trouble with it xD`
`10:25.04`	`orphanus`	`bank problem: the bank dont save my learned abilities`
`10:25.17`	`orphanus`	`i use save unit for it`
`10:25.35`	`orphanus`	`it saves the first and the third ability`
`10:25.46`	`orphanus`	`but not the second....`
`10:25.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Photos/Sample%20Album/Untitled.png?w=9a1e3bc4`
`10:25.57`	`SoulTaker916_`	`try this`
`10:26.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`can u guys see it?`
`10:26.09`	`Aelie`	`nope`
`10:26.13`	`Aelie`	`try a different site`
`10:26.14`	`Aelie`	`:)`
`10:26.15`	`Currydevil`	`nope`
`10:26.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im new to drop box`
`10:26.21`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`10:26.24`	`Currydevil`	`imgur or imageshack.us`
`10:26.26`	`Aelie`	`dropbox may be nice for files`
`10:26.30`	`Aelie`	`but it sucks for images`
`10:26.38`	`Aelie`	`or even photobucket`
`10:26.54`	`Aelie`	`imageshack has gotten annoying`
`10:27.02`	`Aelie`	`they keep moving around and hiding their links`
`10:27.10`	`Currydevil`	`hehe`
`10:27.15`	`Aelie`	`hehe?`
`10:27.23`	`Currydevil`	`Well.. i use that when i don't feel like logging into photobucket.`
`10:27.25`	`Aelie`	`that wasnt even remotely a funny line`
`10:27.35`	`Currydevil`	`sure it was.`
`10:27.52`	`Currydevil`	`I'm tired, about to go to bed, anything is funny right about now.`
`10:28.02`	`Aelie`	`i quit using imageshack cause they started making you login, or read source, or other bullshit just to get an imagelink`
`10:28.18`	`Currydevil`	`well, i don't login for the direct link.`
`10:28.26`	`Currydevil`	`it seems to give a decent enough option without.`
`10:28.37`	`Aelie`	`i dont want their shitty landing page`
`10:28.40`	`Aelie`	`i just want the picture`
`10:28.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/evilgamerboy916/Untitled-1.png`
`10:29.15`	`SoulTaker916_`	`http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/evilgamerboy916/City.png`
`10:29.17`	`Aelie`	`oh shit youre drowning`
`10:29.21`	`Aelie`	`you better get out of the water`
`10:29.24`	`SoulTaker916_`	`theres a shark`
`10:29.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`next to them`
`10:29.34`	`SoulTaker916_`	`that i was going to make eat them`
`10:29.35`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`10:29.41`	`SoulTaker916_`	`havent gotten to it yet`
`10:29.45`	`Aelie`	`too bad`
`10:29.54`	`Aelie`	`they can drown for a while longer then i guess`
`10:30.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`lol`
`10:30.01`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`10:30.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`anyways`
`10:30.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the entire map`
`10:30.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`everything`
`10:30.18`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ecvept the ground and bridges`
`10:30.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`is destroyable`
`10:30.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and the ground is morphable by weapon fire`
`10:30.34`	`Aelie`	`i want to destroy the ground tho`
`10:30.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ima build an entine damn city`
`10:30.53`	`Aelie`	`sounds kind of pointless if youre just gonna blow it up`
`10:30.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the street lamp`
`10:31.01`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the lights`
`10:31.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the buildings`
`10:31.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`cars`
`10:31.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`tree`
`10:31.09`	`SoulTaker916_`	`rocks`
`10:31.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`lilly pads`
`10:31.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`birds`
`10:31.17`	`SoulTaker916_`	`fish`
`10:31.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`sharks`
`10:31.24`	`Currydevil`	`who's hiding in the building on the left?`
`10:31.28`	`SoulTaker916_`	`bushes`
`10:31.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`me`
`10:31.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`10:31.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u can load units into buildings`
`10:31.48`	`Currydevil`	`I see that`
`10:32.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ill probably release my unit pack to everyone`
`10:32.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`who wants a destructable city`
`10:32.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`once its done`
`10:32.49`	`Currydevil`	`Sounds like fun. Well ... it's bed time.`
`10:33.35`	`orphanus`	`can anyone help me about my bank? ^^`
`10:33.39`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ya`
`10:33.46`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i just did loads of dumb shit with mine`
`10:34.15`	`orphanus`	`[12:24] <orphanus> bank problem: the bank dont save my learned abilities [12:25] <orphanus> i use save unit for it [12:25] <orphanus> it saves the first and the third ability [12:25] <orphanus> but not the second....`
`10:34.41`	`SoulTaker916_`	`hmm..`
`10:34.46`	`orphanus`	`right now it saves no abilities....:(`
`10:34.51`	`SoulTaker916_`	`sounds like u messed up`
`10:35.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how r u saving abilities?`
`10:35.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`booleans?`
`10:35.06`	`Aelie`	`hm`
`10:35.18`	`Aelie`	`all unit properties probably max out at 524k dont they`
`10:35.32`	`SoulTaker916_`	`depends`
`10:35.40`	`Aelie`	`any go higher?`
`10:35.48`	`orphanus`	`no`
`10:35.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i dont think 542 is a proper bit number`
`10:35.56`	`Aelie`	`no`
`10:36.01`	`SoulTaker916_`	`K*`
`10:36.01`	`Aelie`	`its 524288`
`10:36.07`	`orphanus`	`i use the save unit thing`
`10:36.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`if its a proper bit number`
`10:36.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`then sure`
`10:36.17`	`Aelie`	`....`
`10:36.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`oh`
`10:36.24`	`SoulTaker916_`	`aelie`
`10:36.28`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ur saving the unit`
`10:36.29`	`Aelie`	`yes, its a "proper bit number"`
`10:36.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`itself?`
`10:36.32`	`Aelie`	`no`
`10:36.34`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i mean`
`10:36.39`	`SoulTaker916_`	`orphanus***`
`10:36.41`	`SoulTaker916_`	`lol`
`10:36.44`	`Aelie`	`i just want a place to store a really big number on each unit`
`10:36.44`	`Aelie`	`:p`
`10:36.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well`
`10:37.00`	`orphanus`	`in bank file there is a field for my learned abilities, bu at loading the abilities are gone...`
`10:37.17`	`SoulTaker916_`	`try using a real, they probably using a double memory block`
`10:37.24`	`SoulTaker916_`	`which means they can holder larger numbers`
`10:37.32`	`Aelie`	`yeah but then how do i attach it to my uit`
`10:37.55`	`Aelie`	`unit`
`10:37.57`	`SoulTaker916_`	`in the bank file are the abilities corrected saved (or so it looks like?)`
`10:38.15`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well`
`10:38.45`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u might want to assign a array place for each unit`
`10:38.46`	`orphanus`	`<LearnAbilCount int="2"/> <LearnAbil3 string="HeroLearn,3,3"/> <LearnAbil4 string="HeroLearn,4,3"/>`
`10:38.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`as it comes out`
`10:38.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ok`
`10:39.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well`
`10:39.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`were is abil2?`
`10:39.24`	`orphanus`	`dont know ;)`
`10:39.28`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ah`
`10:39.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`thats the issue`
`10:39.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well`
`10:39.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u got 3 4 and 1`
`10:39.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so`
`10:39.46`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ur missing somwere in the same`
`10:39.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`show me the save command`
`10:40.22`	`orphanus`	`wont help, its in german ^^`
`10:40.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well`
`10:40.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`my recommendation`
`10:40.41`	`SoulTaker916_`	`is nuke it`
`10:40.44`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and rebuild it`
`10:40.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`hope that it work`
`10:40.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`10:41.20`	`orphanus`	`its like`
`10:41.27`	`orphanus`	`open bank`
`10:41.41`	`orphanus`	`save unit in bank`
`10:41.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`07Aelie01`
`10:41.47`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i just remembered`
`10:41.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ya`
`10:41.55`	`SoulTaker916_`	`r u using signatures?`
`10:41.57`	`orphanus`	`option signature`
`10:42.02`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and u need to remember`
`10:42.02`	`orphanus`	`save bank`
`10:42.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`at the end`
`10:42.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`to save bank`
`10:42.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`10:42.36`	`orphanus`	`jea i save that ;)`
`10:42.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its hard to think`
`10:42.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i cant see it`
`10:42.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`damn germans`
`10:42.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`10:43.11`	`orphanus`	`the file is written and it loads everything`
`10:43.21`	`orphanus`	`exept the abilities`
`10:43.48`	`orphanus`	`;)`
`10:44.17`	`orphanus`	`bank is fucked up....`
`10:44.52`	`orphanus`	`ok ill try to rewrite it, no problem`
`10:45.06`	`orphanus`	`but i have another problem with one ability itselve`
`10:45.50`	`orphanus`	`its a ability that activates a buff`
`10:46.13`	`orphanus`	`but when i use this, icant move my hero untill the buff is away....`
`10:46.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i cant help you with data`
`10:46.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`however`
`10:47.01`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i suspect`
`10:47.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`there is a field`
`10:47.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`on the cast`
`10:47.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`usalt a cast filer`
`10:47.17`	`SoulTaker916_`	`"allow movemen" somewere`
`10:49.15`	`orphanus`	`ok ill check that`
`10:50.48`	`orphanus`	`but i think, thats not the problem. in game it says that i cant controll the unit. all buttons like move attack and so on are missing`
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`12:04.55`	`Ashamed`	`I SAID NOOBS I SWEAR`
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`12:14.57`	`Ashamed`	`bf3 open beta tomorrow guys`
`12:18.28`	`Helral\|Work`	`meow`
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`12:24.37`	`Aelie`	`my new leaderboard is hottttttt`
`12:24.38`	`Aelie`	`:O`
`12:24.47`	`Aelie`	`who wants to see it`
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`13:08.55`	`Nash\|327`	`Mexa_ you greek`
`13:09.33`	`orphanus`	`jeehaa my actors and buttons crashed cause of and xml fuck of..... can i do something about that?`
`13:09.37`	`Mexa_`	`zenoes`
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`13:40.00`	`egod`	`the guys who made the nice FInal fantasy UI made another video with boss fight and its pretty clean and cool`
`13:40.07`	`Ashamed`	`trying to walk someone through windows repair ><`
`13:54.12`	`Motive`	`Lol`
`13:54.13`	`Motive`	`GOod luck`
`13:54.26`	`Motive`	`It's going to come down to the person's IQ more than anything else`
`13:55.17`	`Ashamed`	`people all breaken there hardare and shit`
`13:56.40`	`Motive`	`Lolol`
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`13:59.39`	`egod`	`will be live all day for retard with nothing to do`
`13:59.46`	`egod`	`http://www.livestream.com/egodzeldax2drpg`
`14:01.17`	`Ashamed`	`FOR RETARD`
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`14:19.46`	`Ashamed`	`OMG`
`14:19.48`	`Ashamed`	`i need to call dell :(`
`14:19.59`	`pirate`	`can you make units completely invisible to unallied players`
`14:20.14`	`pirate`	`?`
`14:30.31`	`Ashamed`	`i hate calling dell ><`
`14:33.51`	`egod`	`hm`
`14:38.21`	`egod`	`how to detect a (ennemy) chase`
`14:38.56`	`egod`	`there is UNit is Attacked and Unit STarts attaking, both not working`
`14:39.24`	`egod`	`dustin`
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`14:45.39`	`egod`	`nvm it work`
`14:45.41`	`egod`	`woot`
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`14:53.27`	`egod`	`will be live all day for retard with nothing to do`
`14:53.33`	`egod`	`http://www.livestream.com/egodzeldax2drpg`
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`15:01.12`	`Ashamed`	`i should stream my pc all day too :0`
`15:01.15`	`Ashamed`	`so you guys can see me work`
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`15:26.27`	`Ashamed`	`yall are boring`
`15:28.53`	`Mexa_`	`I have my group assignments to deal with`
`15:30.14`	`egod`	`alright now`
`15:30.18`	`egod`	`CUTTING A BUSH`
`15:30.20`	`egod`	`lol`
`15:30.22`	`egod`	`fml`
`15:36.18`	`Ashamed`	`CUTTING A BUSH`
`15:36.50`	`egod`	`hm`
`15:37.04`	`egod`	`how the hell i can put the position of my Bush in a Variable`
`15:41.01`	`Dustin`	`point variable`
`15:42.57`	`egod`	`hm`
`15:43.31`	`egod`	`i cant find anything about (position of doodas) so i cant put a (point) to the bush`
`15:43.50`	`egod`	`i try to make the bush as unit`
`15:45.40`	`egod`	`i dont remember how to make a unit`
`15:45.44`	`egod`	`i did it before`
`15:52.09`	`egod`	`Dustin what is the order to make a unit`
`15:52.19`	`egod`	`Actor/Model/Unit?`
`15:52.55`	`Dustin`	`Unit > Model > Actor`
`15:53.12`	`Dustin`	`God fucking damnit`
`15:53.27`	`egod`	`haha, hm`
`15:54.42`	`Dustin`	`Stupid damn registration stuff that cuts off the last letter of my name`
`15:56.56`	`egod`	`my unit have no founction, have to make it as hero?`
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`15:57.10`	`egod`	`gonna have to check sc2mapster forum i didnt remember`
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`16:01.01`	`Spackenzergie`	`lol`
`16:01.09`	`Spackenzergie`	`7 gate is so imba`
`16:01.16`	`Spackenzergie`	`100% win in PvZ`
`16:01.21`	`Spackenzergie`	`keke`
`16:28.47`	`egod`	`how to change the fuking (radius collision ) around a unit, like a footprint but for a unit?`
`16:28.59`	`egod`	`this data editor is pain`
`16:29.37`	`Vailreth`	`its a bit hard to learn i will admit that`
`16:32.27`	`egod`	`omg`
`16:32.37`	`egod`	`Dustin, what the field for this`
`16:33.15`	`egod`	`i want to change the (radius thing arounf a unit) so i can place 1-2-3-4 bush together`
`16:33.28`	`egod`	`its RED and i cant in the editor`
`16:40.24`	`egod`	`I GOTTTTTTTTTTTT IT`
`16:40.27`	`egod`	`OMG`
`16:40.33`	`egod`	`after 45 mins`
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`16:50.45`	`Ashamed`	`EGOD MAP TEST NOW`
`16:50.55`	`egod`	`no`
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`17:03.23`	`JademusSreg`	`I awaken.`
`17:03.40`	`egod`	`yes , you are alive`
`17:04.35`	`JademusSreg`	`I am Mumm-Ra, the Ever-Living.`
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`17:07.42`	`egod`	`what is the field in the data to ake the unit UNSELECTABLE`
`17:08.48`	`JademusSreg`	`The unit Flags.`
`17:10.22`	`egod`	`what teh feild name`
`17:10.25`	`egod`	`oh`
`17:10.27`	`egod`	`got it`
`17:10.50`	`egod`	`lets cut some BUSH!`
`17:12.20`	`egod`	`http://www.livestream.com/egodzeldax2drpg`
`17:41.00`	`Vailreth`	`well ...`
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`17:41.36`	`Vailreth`	`Jademus, nice thundercats refrence there`
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`17:58.33`	`Dustin`	`http://www.humblebundle.com/`
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`18:01.55`	`egod`	`should i clikc this link?`
`18:01.58`	`egod`	`dustin?`
`18:03.35`	`Dustin`	`Thats why I linked it :P`
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`18:08.16`	`egod_`	`dustin check this, its progrssing`
`18:08.18`	`egod_`	`http://www.livestream.com/egodzeldax2drpg`
`18:08.44`	`Ashamed`	`DUSTIN`
`18:08.46`	`Ashamed`	`YOU LAZY ASS STONER`
`18:08.51`	`Ashamed`	`GO TO EGODS STREAM`
`18:08.59`	`Ashamed`	`He is a n00b BONER FOR YOU`
`18:09.10`	`FockeWulf`	`Hey guys I've got an issue here: I've created a custom model for both a tank chassis and a tank turret. They seemed to be attached properly. The problem is when the tank is give the attack order the turret doesn't rotate in the direction of the target if it is in range. The turret and the tank both have a turretZ attachment.`
`18:10.36`	`FockeWulf`	`I notice it gets silent whenever I ask a question >.<`
`18:11.02`	`Dustin`	`hehe I looked at it earlier`
`18:13.06`	`Ashamed`	`fockewulf its becase we are all noobs and no nothing of the sc2 editor`
`18:13.30`	`egod_`	`lol`
`18:13.38`	`Ashamed`	`know*`
`18:13.47`	`Ashamed`	`i am not sure though :( not a data guy`
`18:14.54`	`FockeWulf`	`Ah, I am a data guy which is part of why I don't know what is going on`
`18:15.10`	`Dustin`	`Data is to god damn inconsistent`
`18:15.12`	`Ashamed`	`i bet it be hidden ninjaz`
`18:15.18`	`Dustin`	`I can work it, but it pisses me the fuck off`
`18:15.32`	`FockeWulf`	`Well I'm trying to get this to work: http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/20/681/Terrain_039.jpg`
`18:15.46`	`Ashamed`	`YEah Fockewulf i was going to say it seems like your having a turret attachment issue.. then i finished reading your sentence and decided that would just make me look like a bigger dumb ass`
`18:15.58`	`Ashamed`	`but it does seem like its some glitch with the turret attachment`
`18:16.09`	`Jum-Jum`	`Ehm, you might wanna scale down the turret in size lol`
`18:16.32`	`FockeWulf`	`what? Dude modern tank turrets are huge lol`
`18:16.46`	`Jum-Jum`	`modern tank turrets dont have double barrels!`
`18:17.03`	`Jum-Jum`	`that is a good point`
`18:17.17`	`FockeWulf`	`Well there is a single barreled version of this too`
`18:17.22`	`FockeWulf`	`i just swap out the turret`
`18:17.31`	`FockeWulf`	`but nothing is gonna happen unless i can fix this rotation issue >.<`
`18:18.07`	`Jum-Jum`	`:(`
`18:24.35`	`FockeWulf`	`And of course DrSuperEvil is a BSer on top of it >.< All he does on my post on sc2mapster is say: "I will not look at the map and instead say you don't have a turretZ" when I do in the map >.<`
`18:25.20`	`FockeWulf`	`Course people on sc2mapster are full of themselves but still...`
`18:25.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
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`18:26.04`	`FockeWulf`	`hmm Jade you might know`
`18:26.12`	`FockeWulf`	`do you know why I'm having this issue with my custom models?`
`18:27.20`	`FockeWulf`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/26412-custom-turret-model-issues/#p3`
`18:27.41`	`Mexa_`	`Dusitn, ow, it's only one game this time`
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`18:29.03`	`Ashamed`	`pff jade know something about the sc2 editor`
`18:29.05`	`Ashamed`	`... yeah right`
`18:30.35`	`Dustin`	`Ya`
`18:30.38`	`Dustin`	`But its a cool lookin game`
`18:30.44`	`Dustin`	`And you pay whatever you want for it`
`18:31.32`	`Mexa_`	`I know I know`
`18:31.41`	`Mexa_`	`I've bought the other ones before`
`18:31.53`	`Dustin`	`The game servers are taking a bit to auth accounts`
`18:32.27`	`FockeWulf`	`Meh, I'm just waiting for end of nations lol`
`18:33.03`	`egod_`	`and my map`
`18:34.10`	`JademusSreg`	`Back.`
`18:34.26`	`Ashamed`	`what game is this we are talking about?`
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`18:34.45`	`Dustin`	`Frozen Synapse`
`18:34.50`	`FockeWulf`	`You haven't heard of End of Nations?`
`18:38.42`	`egod_`	`did you said: copyright in my LIvestream channel Ashamed? hahahhahahaha`
`18:38.57`	`egod_`	`i dont care, i just made this for fun and will publish it`
`18:42.55`	`JademusSreg`	`XML view is too slow to be useful, it seems. Much easier to work with the files.`
`18:45.00`	`Mexa_`	`Depends`
`18:45.18`	`Mexa_`	`The editor in itself is much slower otherwise :c`
`18:45.30`	`JademusSreg`	`It takes too long to load, so it's shit. =D`
`18:45.35`	`Mexa_`	`oh`
`18:45.38`	`Mexa_`	`lolokay`
`18:47.30`	`egod_`	`how to change the color orientation of a model or actor or unit via data editor like in WC3? what the field name? is it possible?`
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`18:48.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`jade`
`18:49.24`	`SoulTaker916_`	`t`
`18:50.01`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`18:50.12`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i amde a region`
`18:50.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`of many shapes`
`18:50.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and i notice`
`18:50.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`that shapes r dissapearing`
`18:50.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and stuff`
`18:50.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how many shapes can a region hold?`
`18:50.59`	`Mexa_`	`It's possible but I'm uncertain where. But I recall you need to send an actor message event to change the color, upon an actor's 'on creation', egod_`
`18:51.08`	`Mexa_`	`Something like that`
`18:51.24`	`egod_`	`hm`
`18:51.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Dunno, Taker. How many shapes as it got by your count?`
`18:51.45`	`SoulTaker916_`	`50ish`
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`18:53.18`	`Ashamed`	`soultaker yeah it cant get too big`
`18:53.21`	`Ashamed`	`i have noticed this too :(`
`18:53.47`	`Ashamed`	`i made this trigger based perimintor and once i got too many regions added some of them would just stop working`
`18:53.48`	`Ashamed`	`:(`
`18:54.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`what if i make 2?`
`18:54.39`	`SoulTaker916_`	`2 of like 20?`
`18:54.45`	`SoulTaker916_`	`thats ok right?`
`18:54.46`	`Ashamed`	`thats what i was just about to suggest`
`18:54.51`	`Ashamed`	`yeah try it`
`18:54.52`	`Ashamed`	`cut it in half`
`18:54.52`	`SoulTaker916_`	`kk`
`18:54.52`	`Ashamed`	`tell me if it works`
`18:54.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`LOLZ`
`18:55.02`	`Ashamed`	`i didnt really test it when i was having the issue`
`18:55.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`07JademusSreg01`
`18:55.06`	`Ashamed`	`i was like well that sucks`
`18:55.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`atually nvm`
`18:55.09`	`Ashamed`	`and i stopped working on it`
`18:56.20`	`Mexa_`	`warning CS1691: '2008' is not a valid warning number`
`18:56.31`	`Mexa_`	`Yay Visual Studio...`
`18:56.42`	`Mexa_`	`Did it really have to warn me about that?`
`18:56.52`	`SoulTaker916_`	`dude stfu`
`18:56.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i love it`
`18:56.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`18:57.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i know now whats fuckign up`
`18:57.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`for so long`
`18:57.28`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i didnt know were the errors were comming from`
`18:57.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`19:01.10`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`19:01.27`	`Ashamed`	`mexa i like getting non valid errors.. and then a valid error explaining to me that the last error was not valid`
`19:01.35`	`egod_`	`i find it Mexa_`
`19:01.47`	`egod_`	`its unit bird in event actor, change tint colot`
`19:02.10`	`Mexa_`	`Birth, you mean?`
`19:02.13`	`egod_`	`ya`
`19:02.19`	`egod_`	`well`
`19:02.23`	`egod_`	`its in event actor`
`19:02.29`	`egod_`	`you can change whatever color you want`
`19:02.44`	`Mexa_`	`aye`
`19:03.00`	`Mexa_`	`Ashamed, lol btw:P`
`19:04.51`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm tinkering with Focke's map.`
`19:05.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`lol`
`19:05.36`	`JademusSreg`	`Got the tank providing feedback (weapon report), and it deals damage, but the turret doesn't turn despite all the data looking fine.`
`19:06.38`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`19:06.54`	`FockeWulf`	`Well I'm gonna try to put that missile turret into 3ds to see if thats all I'm missing`
`19:06.59`	`FockeWulf`	`There might be another object somewhere`
`19:07.26`	`FockeWulf`	`And yes I am shitty at making textures`
`19:07.32`	`FockeWulf`	`I've been using photoshop all of a week now`
`19:07.58`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`19:09.27`	`Aelie`	`JademusSreg: test?`
`19:09.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Sure.`
`19:10.01`	`Aelie`	`Dustin: ?`
`19:10.04`	`Ashamed`	`JADE NO`
`19:10.05`	`Dustin`	`login in`
`19:10.20`	`Ashamed`	`your not just meat jade`
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`19:10.55`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`19:15.07`	`FockeWulf`	`oh dear god...`
`19:15.09`	`FockeWulf`	`I may not like this`
`19:15.27`	`egod_`	`i feel play something like HelloKitty lol http://www.livestream.com/egodzeldax2drpg`
`19:18.38`	`Aelie`	`http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Ee3qw66k`
`19:18.57`	`SoulTaker916_`	`https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qakxGC7EodRpoVCdxU79hQIzxM26FkKIsXn2BAeY2mg?feat=directlink`
`19:19.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/6UT7RMW01wZg4zrYC5ao6AIzxM26FkKIsXn2BAeY2mg?feat=directlink`
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`19:31.35`	`FockeWulf`	`I think I discovered the problem, but I have no clue what to do about it`
`19:31.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`?`
`19:32.10`	`FockeWulf`	`When I put the missile turret into 3ds I found out that the TurretZ attachment was linked to the top half of the model (the part that rotates).`
`19:32.18`	`FockeWulf`	`I have a turret Z but its not linked to the mesh`
`19:32.26`	`FockeWulf`	`how do I link the attachment to the mesh?`
`19:36.52`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ti cant help u`
`19:36.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`19:36.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`not in 3ds`
`19:37.02`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its been too long`
`19:39.19`	`egod_`	`my map is fun`
`19:39.19`	`egod_`	`guys`
`19:42.58`	`FockeWulf`	`god damned jade got taken away at the wrong time >.<`
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`19:48.47`	`Vailreth`	`SoulTaker`
`19:49.16`	`Vailreth`	`SoulTaker916_:`
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`19:51.21`	`Vailreth`	`Nash... go fetch soultaker forme`
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`19:56.03`	`FockeWulf`	`SWEET`
`19:56.05`	`FockeWulf`	`IT WORKED!`
`19:56.16`	`Vailreth`	`yes!`
`19:56.19`	`Vailreth`	`er what worked`
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`19:56.42`	`FockeWulf`	`Parenting the objects to the TurretZ attachment in 3ds :P`
`19:56.45`	`FockeWulf`	`now my turret rotates`
`19:56.52`	`Vailreth`	`nice`
`19:57.02`	`SoulTaker916_`	`07Vailreth01`
`19:57.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u called?`
`19:57.05`	`FockeWulf`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/20/681/Terrain_039.jpg`
`19:57.10`	`Vailreth`	`ah there you are`
`19:57.10`	`FockeWulf`	`screen shot of what ive been working on`
`19:57.25`	`SoulTaker916_`	`when u need me type "LOL"`
`19:57.40`	`FockeWulf`	`what?!?`
`19:57.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`?`
`19:58.43`	`FockeWulf`	`Was that LOL about my model?`
`19:58.47`	`Vailreth`	`i have that ability i was working on working pefectly, an ability that fires a seeker missile at the ground or a unit, and will retarget to the nearest unit`
`19:58.50`	`SoulTaker916_`	`no`
`19:59.01`	`SoulTaker916_`	`SCORE!`
`19:59.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`send that bitch over`
`19:59.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`19:59.30`	`Vailreth`	`are you NA or will i need to localize the map?`
`19:59.40`	`SoulTaker916_`	`https://picasaweb.google.com/109283574171293169630/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCLrO4vrtxpLNHA#5657492067051269554`
`19:59.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im NA`
`19:59.50`	`SoulTaker916_`	`https://picasaweb.google.com/109283574171293169630/DropBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCLrO4vrtxpLNHA#5657491830671077106`
`19:59.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im building an entire city`
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`20:00.15`	`Ashamed`	`sucks`
`20:00.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`damnit`
`20:00.34`	`FockeWulf`	`you should put my tank into your map :P`
`20:00.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its assamaed`
`20:00.44`	`SoulTaker916_`	`sure why not`
`20:00.45`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`20:00.57`	`FockeWulf`	`Gotta refine the mesh but it all works :P`
`20:01.01`	`FockeWulf`	`I mean the texture`
`20:01.03`	`FockeWulf`	`the mesh is fine`
`20:01.07`	`Ashamed`	`making some gta remix or somthing soul;?`
`20:01.17`	`SoulTaker916_`	`hell no`
`20:01.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`fk that`
`20:01.26`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ima blow it up`
`20:01.32`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i taking me forever`
`20:01.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im making it real perty for the big shotgun wedding of fate`
`20:02.32`	`Vailreth`	`http://www.box.net/shared/r2tkzq6s95qn77ao7vik`
`20:02.51`	`SoulTaker916_`	`fk ya`
`20:03.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`is it a behavior?`
`20:03.18`	`Vailreth`	`no its an ability that has a couple of sets`
`20:03.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ability?`
`20:03.36`	`Vailreth`	`yea`
`20:03.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u modified the seeker missle?`
`20:03.48`	`Vailreth`	`yes`
`20:03.51`	`SoulTaker916_`	`or is it parralell?`
`20:04.02`	`Vailreth`	`i modifed the seeker`
`20:04.18`	`Vailreth`	`it dosent require dummy units or anything of the sort to fire at ground`
`20:04.35`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ill have to take a look at it`
`20:04.42`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`20:04.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but before that`
`20:04.51`	`SoulTaker916_`	`my city`
`20:04.57`	`SoulTaker916_`	`isnt perty enough`
`20:05.02`	`Vailreth`	`yeah. the key is the precursor behavior..`
`20:05.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`what im hopping to do`
`20:05.39`	`SoulTaker916_`	`is apply thay precursor behavior to weapons`
`20:05.45`	`SoulTaker916_`	`of multiple units`
`20:06.31`	`Vailreth`	`it dont work on weapons as far as i can tell`
`20:07.13`	`Vailreth`	`let me retest`
`20:07.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`hm...`
`20:09.43`	`Vailreth`	`no it only works for abilities bummer`
`20:10.53`	`egod_`	`What are you guys project? i know there GEM TD, DUstin working on a 3rd person Top down shooter ?, i work on Zelda SNES and what about other people?`
`20:11.00`	`Vailreth`	`this maybe an updated version of the War3 engine or similarly coded`
`20:11.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`oh well`
`20:11.45`	`Vailreth`	`and in WC3 the seige units needed a special ability to attack ground`
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`20:15.21`	`UloseTheGame`	`anyone on eu here?`
`20:15.28`	`UloseTheGame`	`I need to know the names of some custom chat channels`
`20:15.36`	`SoulTaker916_`	`*foats around`
`20:23.44`	`Vailreth`	`i need s sith style cloak`
`20:24.58`	`Vailreth`	`as for my projects i was working on a dota map with xorioz`
`20:27.49`	`Aelie`	`JademusSreg: should damage carry into a combo?`
`20:33.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Probably not, unless you intend to carry xp as well.`
`20:34.51`	`Dustin`	`XP is carried`
`20:41.35`	`Aelie`	`kills are combined into a combo`
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`21:00.22`	`egod_`	`lawl at RPG maker http://www.livestream.com/egodzeldax2drpg`
`21:00.49`	`JademusSreg`	`eguy, I've got a few projects, two of which are for SC2: Photon Cycles and a new project.`
`21:01.05`	`egod_`	`what is the new`
`21:01.32`	`JademusSreg`	`"I'm calling it Subversion Tower Defense. The sinister Phallux Brood seeks to invade the worldship known to the Protoss as Veneria, and only the valiant warriors of the Prophyllarium can ensure the ship remains impregnable. Players will employ Directed Photon Resistance Matrices each round to delay the penetration by the Phallux."`
`21:01.51`	`JademusSreg`	`I don't like TDs, so I'm challenging myself to make one I would enjoy.`
`21:02.03`	`egod_`	`TD is always fun`
`21:02.25`	`egod_`	`what im bored to see is all those Hero Survival or thing like this, way to much, all the same`
`21:02.40`	`JademusSreg`	`TDs are too passive and dull, for the most part.`
`21:03.15`	`egod_`	`not enough RPGs, but its the harder to make`
`21:03.47`	`egod_`	`all RPG atm suck its horrible`
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`21:04.05`	`JademusSreg`	`Name a good RPG, so I have a benchmark for your taste. =D`
`21:04.28`	`egod_`	`Corruption RPG i tryed, failed horrible`
`21:04.36`	`Keyeszx`	`RPG of normal games or sc2?`
`21:04.41`	`Keyeszx`	`I like Corruption RPG`
`21:04.57`	`egod_`	`its bad men`
`21:05.04`	`egod_`	`i tryed all`
`21:05.23`	`JademusSreg`	`Not a map, a game.`
`21:05.23`	`Keyeszx`	`How can you say it's bad?`
`21:05.36`	`egod_`	`oh a game`
`21:05.40`	`egod_`	`hm`
`21:05.46`	`Keyeszx`	`Best RPG is probably Demon's Souls for PS3`
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`21:05.55`	`egod_`	`well`
`21:05.57`	`Keyeszx`	`or Phantasy Star Online`
`21:06.13`	`Keyeszx`	`or Sacred 2`
`21:06.17`	`egod_`	`i would like the see a serious FF tactic on SC2, or something like this`
`21:06.24`	`Keyeszx`	`Also Champions Return to Arms`
`21:06.29`	`Keyeszx`	`But that's only action RPGs`
`21:06.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Key, I'm not familiar with any of the games you mention.`
`21:07.00`	`Keyeszx`	`not even Phantasy Star Online?`
`21:07.01`	`egod_`	`all the game you mention, i tryed all`
`21:07.09`	`egod_`	`good choice`
`21:07.17`	`Keyeszx`	`Sacred 2 is a diablo parody`
`21:07.37`	`egod_`	`yeah, remember in Sacred1? the town from tristram? lol`
`21:07.37`	`Keyeszx`	`it's actually got good gameplay but the story is really stupid and there are a lot of jokes and easter eggs thrown in`
`21:07.43`	`egod_`	`i was like, wow its tristram`
`21:08.02`	`JademusSreg`	`And while FFT is my favorite game evah, I hope you don't mean a direct port, since ip wanking is lame. But a map inspired by FFT and such would be pretty sweet.`
`21:08.41`	`egod_`	`yup well`
`21:08.45`	`Aelie`	`JademusSreg: the fact that there seem to be no variables that can store numbers larger than 500000 pisses me off`
`21:08.46`	`Keyeszx`	`Champions Return to Arms is a dungeon crawler kind of like diablo but for PS2`
`21:08.50`	`Keyeszx`	`it was fun back in the day`
`21:09.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Cast to int.`
`21:10.16`	`Aelie`	`int is kind of inaccurate when it comes to damage counting`
`21:10.24`	`Keyeszx`	`egod have you played Demon's Souls`
`21:10.26`	`A1win`	`damn... been planning to work on my map for a few days but been too busy playing team ladder >_>`
`21:10.40`	`JademusSreg`	`32 bit signed int can go as high as (2^32)-1`
`21:10.49`	`egod_`	`im very impress by this, seriously, very impress: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/player-zone/map-feedback/25817-fantasy-craft-based-on-final-fantasy-series/#posts`
`21:10.51`	`Aelie`	`yeah but it starts to get way off`
`21:11.01`	`Aelie`	`theres really no doubles?`
`21:11.05`	`JademusSreg`	`Nope.`
`21:11.14`	`egod_`	`see the link, check video, its SMOOTH UI, not to much complex, very nice`
`21:11.22`	`egod_`	`that a GOOD RPG`
`21:11.45`	`egod_`	`someone have a brain`
`21:12.03`	`JademusSreg`	`IP Wanking, using FF7 music.`
`21:12.22`	`egod_`	`check his new video of Boss fight`
`21:12.26`	`egod_`	`very very good`
`21:12.30`	`egod_`	`its smooth, and simple`
`21:12.40`	`egod_`	`just perfect`
`21:12.46`	`Keyeszx`	`I'm impressed by this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsARg5A2GsQ`
`21:12.47`	`JademusSreg`	`No thanks. Good quality ip wanking is still wanking.`
`21:12.59`	`Keyeszx`	`It's just amazing what he did with the visuals`
`21:13.09`	`JademusSreg`	`I was talking to eguy.`
`21:13.35`	`Aelie`	`JademusSreg: i rolled the damage done meter over to the negatives twice :D`
`21:13.43`	`JademusSreg`	`HAha`
`21:13.49`	`Aelie`	`on the final damage test`
`21:14.09`	`JademusSreg`	`If it's really a big deal, track it with a float and an int.`
`21:14.11`	`egod_`	`Keyeszx, your link, i dont like it, see, its so confused and horrible lightning, the guys said: i feel im on crack`
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`21:14.16`	`egod_`	`not good to me`
`21:14.17`	`JademusSreg`	`Erm, fixed.`
`21:14.18`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`21:14.20`	`egod_`	`it have to be simple`
`21:14.21`	`Aelie`	`0 -> 524k -> -524k -> 524k -> -524k -> 0`
`21:14.55`	`JademusSreg`	`But I think you don't need to worry about loss, Ael.`
`21:15.01`	`Aelie`	`you do`
`21:15.21`	`Aelie`	`on the 15k, by the time you kill it you only have ~14500 on the leaderboard`
`21:15.28`	`Aelie`	`on the 100k it was more like 95,96k`
`21:15.35`	`Keyeszx`	`That final fantasy craft or whatever is too simple`
`21:15.40`	`Keyeszx`	`it's sc2 not ps1`
`21:15.50`	`JademusSreg`	`I guess that's because your damage ranges cover fractional quantities.`
`21:15.53`	`JademusSreg`	`Makes sense.`
`21:15.55`	`Spackenzergie`	`hehe`
`21:16.09`	`Aelie`	`well with all the 10%'s going around`
`21:16.11`	`Keyeszx`	`Ryan took the concept of Chrono Trigger battles and brought it to modern day`
`21:16.12`	`Aelie`	`you cant avoid it`
`21:16.19`	`JademusSreg`	`In that case, you can couple fixed and an int.`
`21:16.20`	`egod_`	`nah men`
`21:16.22`	`egod_`	`it HAVE to be simple`
`21:16.23`	`Spackenzergie`	`http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=269527#3`
`21:16.31`	`Spackenzergie`	`my blog guise`
`21:16.39`	`Aelie`	`i think i fixed it`
`21:16.56`	`Aelie`	`by leaving it raw damage and then x4'ing the final result for the leaderboard`
`21:17.01`	`JademusSreg`	`So when the fixed is >= 500000 or soem such, you deduct it from the float and increment the int.`
`21:17.03`	`Keyeszx`	`Why simple?`
`21:17.13`	`egod_`	`cause its way much fun`
`21:17.20`	`JademusSreg`	`*some`
`21:17.20`	`Keyeszx`	`nah it's boring`
`21:17.23`	`Aelie`	`i already had to give the final boss a 75% damage reduce`
`21:17.27`	`Keyeszx`	`flash and substance is fun`
`21:17.28`	`Aelie`	`to make him have 2000000 hp`
`21:17.35`	`Keyeszx`	`WoW is simple and it's boring`
`21:17.47`	`Keyeszx`	`Aion and TERA Online are flash and substance and it's fun`
`21:17.48`	`Aelie`	`wow is anything but simple`
`21:17.49`	`egod_`	`haha ;)`
`21:17.55`	`egod_`	`WoW is simple`
`21:17.55`	`Keyeszx`	`I mean the combat`
`21:17.56`	`Aelie`	`unless you mean the graphics`
`21:18.00`	`Aelie`	`then its kind of simple`
`21:18.02`	`Aelie`	`nah`
`21:18.02`	`egod_`	`i mean, the mechanics`
`21:18.03`	`Keyeszx`	`graphics included`
`21:18.08`	`Aelie`	`wow has more buttons to push than any other game`
`21:18.14`	`egod_`	`exactly`
`21:18.15`	`Keyeszx`	`Aion has more buttons`
`21:18.23`	`Keyeszx`	`also you have combos in aion`
`21:18.25`	`Aelie`	`ive never played another game where i had 3 12 button bars full`
`21:18.28`	`egod_`	`and they have 10 millions account cause its simple`
`21:18.36`	`Aelie`	`and i actually used 70-80% on a regular basis`
`21:18.37`	`egod_`	`simple UI is win`
`21:18.40`	`Keyeszx`	`You obviously don't play many MMOs Aelie`
`21:18.45`	`Aelie`	`?`
`21:18.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Presumption.`
`21:19.01`	`Keyeszx`	`Aion is more complex than WoW`
`21:19.05`	`Aelie`	`ive played almost every mmo is out now`
`21:19.12`	`Keyeszx`	`You've played Aion?`
`21:19.14`	`Aelie`	`youve clearly never raided`
`21:19.15`	`Aelie`	`i have`
`21:19.27`	`A1win`	`your argument is funny`
`21:19.27`	`Aelie`	`aion is close but`
`21:19.29`	`egod_`	`i played Aions, i neved raided`
`21:19.41`	`Aelie`	`i guess it depends on your class`
`21:19.52`	`Aelie`	`let me show you my bars in wow`
`21:20.07`	`egod_`	`whavever`
`21:20.19`	`egod_`	`for me`
`21:20.26`	`egod_`	`all fuking RPG on Bnet are bad`
`21:20.33`	`egod_`	`end of discusion`
`21:20.39`	`Keyeszx`	`Why because nothing is simple?`
`21:20.44`	`A1win`	`WoW is simpler than SC2, there's no global cooldown on your APM in SC2 ;p`
`21:20.46`	`egod_`	`they are not fun`
`21:21.07`	`Keyeszx`	`I found Corruption RPG to be fun and nice to look at`
`21:21.18`	`Keyeszx`	`Gameplay and Atmosphere is really all I need`
`21:21.27`	`Keyeszx`	`story can suck and I wouldn't care`
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`21:21.56`	`Aelie`	`http://i.imgur.com/S2rbb.jpg`
`21:22.41`	`Keyeszx`	`But people who play WoW just set up macros`
`21:22.50`	`Keyeszx`	`you hit the same keys in the same order all the tim`
`21:22.56`	`Keyeszx`	`time*`
`21:23.07`	`Aelie`	`sounds like a gross generalization`
`21:23.12`	`Aelie`	`like i said before`
`21:23.16`	`A1win`	`you can do that if you want bad DPS ;p`
`21:23.27`	`Aelie`	`i used 70-80% of the skills on my bars in any real fight`
`21:23.40`	`Keyeszx`	`Also I like Aion's combo system`
`21:23.47`	`Aelie`	`like it or not`
`21:23.51`	`Aelie`	`wow is not simple`
`21:24.43`	`A1win`	`depends on how you define simple D:`
`21:24.44`	`Keyeszx`	`Anyone excited for Phantasy Star Online 2?`
`21:25.11`	`Keyeszx`	`I think Dragon Nest is more complex than WoW with my definition of simple`
`21:25.18`	`Dustin`	`Dragon nesti s fun as fuck`
`21:25.21`	`egod_`	`whos the developper Keyeszx?`
`21:25.30`	`Keyeszx`	`ncsoft I think`
`21:25.31`	`Dustin`	`Nexon`
`21:25.35`	`Dustin`	`wait`
`21:25.38`	`Dustin`	`Ncsoft`
`21:25.40`	`egod_`	`hm`
`21:25.41`	`Keyeszx`	`nexon`
`21:25.43`	`Keyeszx`	`sorry`
`21:25.52`	`Dustin`	`ya I knew it was an N name`
`21:25.52`	`Keyeszx`	`sorry I was thinking Aion devs`
`21:25.59`	`Mexa_`	`I'm awaiting Edmund McMillen's 'The Binding of Isaac'`
`21:26.12`	`Keyeszx`	`NCsoft is making Blade and Soul which looks really good combat wise`
`21:26.17`	`Mexa_`	`Oh hey btw`
`21:26.25`	`Mexa_`	`Notch is going to court vs Bethesda`
`21:26.32`	`Keyeszx`	`ya I read about that`
`21:26.44`	`Mexa_`	`They didn't want to fight a quake match about it:P`
`21:26.44`	`Keyeszx`	`at first I was skimming and sounded like he started it but it was bethesda`
`21:26.47`	`egod_`	`well NCsoft is a editor not a developper, but i can see`
`21:27.05`	`Keyeszx`	`I know Beth is too scared of Notch's skills in quake`
`21:27.29`	`Mexa_`	`Well anyways, with Mojang's current income, it's not going to be a problem`
`21:28.20`	`Keyeszx`	`This lawsuit shows how greedy companies are`
`21:28.32`	`Keyeszx`	`He just wanted to name his game Scrolls or something like that right`
`21:29.00`	`Keyeszx`	`I can't see Bethesda winning this case, it's just so stupid`
`21:29.22`	`Mexa_`	`considering Mojang's revenue is over 100k euro per day`
`21:29.26`	`Mexa_`	`;O`
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`21:30.16`	`egod_`	`perosnnaly, Guildwars2 is the next big mmo, i dont think any other MMO will beat this monster`
`21:30.21`	`Keyeszx`	`Who's X Media Digital`
`21:30.23`	`FockeWulf`	`holy crap`
`21:30.26`	`FockeWulf`	`blizzard is a bunch of retards`
`21:30.35`	`FockeWulf`	`I gave up on ww2 diplo 2 months ago`
`21:30.35`	`Keyeszx`	`they blocked one of RyanWin's videos of Starcraft Universe`
`21:30.51`	`Keyeszx`	`on a copyright basis`
`21:30.55`	`FockeWulf`	`and it still has 28 hours and is at the top of the diplomacy list.`
`21:30.59`	`FockeWulf`	`holy freaking crap`
`21:31.01`	`Sixen`	`focke, that model is sick`
`21:31.05`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MindWorX (~Nikolaj.M@188.176.196.178)`
`21:31.12`	`FockeWulf`	`thanks`
`21:31.20`	`Keyeszx`	`what model?`
`21:31.24`	`Keyeszx`	`I had a genius idea`
`21:31.32`	`FockeWulf`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/20/681/Terrain_039.jpg`
`21:31.56`	`Keyeszx`	`I put a hot picture of a girl as the little thumbnail picture so people see that and play it because they're lonely horny bastards`
`21:32.00`	`Mexa_`	`"[23:30] <Keyeszx> they blocked one of RyanWin's videos of Starcraft Universe" ... no, that could be a spambot`
`21:32.19`	`egod_`	`blizzard will not block video`
`21:32.44`	`Mexa_`	`I've seen plenty of videos which was blocked, when it was just some angry nerd with a bot claiming the infridgemnet`
`21:32.55`	`Mexa_`	`Or whatever.`
`21:33.06`	`Keyeszx`	`It seems like the company being said who blocked it is a USB drive makers`
`21:33.10`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`21:33.22`	`Keyeszx`	`or flash cards like microsd and SD cards`
`21:33.24`	`FockeWulf`	`so blizzard is banning all of the d3 beta players who were pissed off at the game.`
`21:33.35`	`Keyeszx`	`youtube is fail all the time now a days`
`21:35.10`	`Mexa_`	`FockeWulf, what?`
`21:35.45`	`FockeWulf`	`ya they are banning all of the d3 players who complain about the game`
`21:35.59`	`egod_`	`the funny part is, they all want a Diablo3 beta key for around 3 hours of gameplay haha`
`21:36.14`	`Mexa_`	`ooooh... The Binding of Isaac was released today`
`21:36.26`	`Mexa_`	`http://store.steampowered.com/app/113200/`
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`21:37.51`	`MindWorX`	`Bad trailer`
`21:38.07`	`Mexa_`	`great music though`
`21:38.10`	`MindWorX`	`Yea`
`21:38.20`	`Mexa_`	`As always, dbSoundworks is great on that`
`21:39.03`	`Mexa_`	`Mindy, I think this trailer is better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27Le3kOOFQk`
`21:40.20`	`Sixen`	`it's only 45 mins of gameplay`
`21:40.27`	`Sixen`	`maybe an hour if you take your time`
`21:41.42`	`Mexa_`	`So, you played it?`
`21:41.45`	`MindWorX`	`Much better trailer`
`21:43.14`	`Mexa_`	`The game is 5 euro/usd, and indie... I don't expect it to be 24 hours long`
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`21:44.01`	`Mexa_`	`They made an excellent job in SMB, I still haven't finished it, and it sure has a greate amount of quality and quantity time.`
`21:44.14`	`MindWorX`	`SMB?`
`21:45.05`	`Keyeszx`	`Super Mario Bros of course :D`
`21:45.09`	`Mexa_`	`Super Meat Boy`
`21:45.17`	`MindWorX`	`Ah`
`21:45.31`	`Keyeszx`	`Diablo 3 beta is really short?`
`21:45.56`	`Mexa_`	`You can always play it 4 more times with the rest of the characters.`
`21:46.09`	`Keyeszx`	`You're limited the amount of plays?`
`21:46.18`	`Keyeszx`	`Why do they always make demos and call them beta?`
`21:46.35`	`Keyeszx`	`I remember back in the day when beta was used to enhance the game by fixing bugs and balance issues`
`21:46.42`	`Mexa_`	`What, no, I didn't say that`
`21:46.54`	`Keyeszx`	`it sounded like it was only 4 times`
`21:47.06`	`Keyeszx`	`You said play it 4 more times`
`21:47.06`	`Mexa_`	`You can play as many times as you want, as far as I know, but you have 5 slots for the characters now I think.`
`21:47.12`	`Keyeszx`	`oh`
`21:47.13`	`Mexa_`	`meh`
`21:47.32`	`Keyeszx`	`but beta testers think of it as a demo also which isn't what it's meant for`
`21:47.42`	`Mexa_`	`I was only implying that there's more than one character you can play through since you sounded disappointed:P`
`21:48.34`	`Mexa_`	`And considering Diablo 3 isn't going to be released until sometime 2012, there will probably lots of patches and expandability`
`21:50.14`	`Aelie`	`anyone want to test?`
`21:56.57`	`Mexa_`	`Sixen, considering it's rougelike with randomized levels too.`
`21:58.42`	`Sixen`	`considering what`
`21:58.56`	`Mexa_`	`The game`
`21:59.00`	`Mexa_`	`You expect it to be short?`
`21:59.05`	`Sixen`	`it is short`
`21:59.16`	`Mexa_`	`And you know because you have played it?`
`21:59.20`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`21:59.24`	`Sixen`	`yes?`
`21:59.42`	`Mexa_`	`How many times did you die?`
`21:59.48`	`Sixen`	`none`
`21:59.51`	`Sixen`	`it's normal`
`21:59.56`	`Mexa_`	`what?`
`22:00.07`	`Aelie`	`not nightmare or hell`
`22:00.09`	`Mexa_`	`It's supposingly having permadeath`
`22:00.10`	`Sixen`	`right`
`22:00.16`	`Sixen`	`huh?`
`22:00.17`	`Aelie`	`Mexa_: only on hardcore`
`22:00.18`	`Sixen`	`if you play hardcore yeah`
`22:00.23`	`Mexa_`	`oh..`
`22:00.23`	`Aelie`	`but that was in d2 too`
`22:00.26`	`Sixen`	`right`
`22:00.34`	`Mexa_`	`Not talking about d2 though`
`22:00.45`	`Sixen`	`right`
`22:00.50`	`Sixen`	`but you don't know what you're talking about`
`22:00.50`	`Aelie`	`i remember having lots of death spam games of d2`
`22:01.00`	`Sixen`	`d3 has hardcore just like d2 did`
`22:01.01`	`Sixen`	`it's not new`
`22:01.01`	`Aelie`	`esp. diablo`
`22:01.12`	`Mexa_`	`Sixen`
`22:01.22`	`Mexa_`	`Are you talking about diablo 3?`
`22:01.25`	`Sixen`	`I am`
`22:01.25`	`Aelie`	`yeah...`
`22:01.31`	`Mexa_`	`...`
`22:01.43`	`Mexa_`	`Fine, a complete misunderstanding this is then`
`22:01.45`	`Sixen`	`that's what everyone else is taling about`
`22:01.46`	`Sixen`	`o_O`
`22:01.52`	`Mexa_`	`I was talking about the game I linked`
`22:01.53`	`Mexa_`	`D:`
`22:01.57`	`Sixen`	`o_O`
`22:02.30`	`Mexa_`	`I took what you said earlier, as a reply to what me and Mindy was talking about`
`22:02.38`	`Keyeszx`	`Anyone want to drive down to my college and take my math exam?`
`22:02.44`	`Mexa_`	`Now it's more clear though`
`22:02.51`	`Mexa_`	`:>`
`22:03.12`	`Mexa_`	`So I take it, that you have not played The Binding of Isaac, then ;)?`
`22:03.19`	`MindWorX`	`Silly Sexen`
`22:04.34`	`MindWorX`	`So, I'm finally making backup so I can reformat and give Win8 a go :P`
`22:04.48`	`MindWorX`	`I always hate this, I'm always conviced there's something I'm forgetting :P`
`22:05.30`	`egod_`	`what the maximun unit i can have in a map?`
`22:05.39`	`Mexa_`	`So, you're really going for it now Mindy?`
`22:05.51`	`MindWorX`	`Indeed I am`
`22:05.56`	`Mexa_`	`Instead of just having a secondary partition or VM?`
`22:06.02`	`MindWorX`	`Yup :P`
`22:06.07`	`Mexa_`	`okedoke`
`22:06.23`	`MindWorX`	`I'm moving all my files to my external drive, so it'll be a breeze to reinstall with win7 if I need`
`22:06.28`	`Aelie`	`egod_: probably depends ont heir compute`
`22:06.39`	`egod_`	`ohhh`
`22:06.42`	`egod_`	`i see`
`22:06.52`	`Aelie`	`ive seen close to 1000 without any issues`
`22:06.57`	`Aelie`	`i dont know how high you could go though`
`22:07.11`	`egod_`	`wow only 1000`
`22:07.15`	`egod_`	`dman`
`22:07.17`	`Aelie`	`?`
`22:07.26`	`Aelie`	`thats just the highest ive seen`
`22:07.35`	`Mexa_`	`Mindy, alrighty then`
`22:07.40`	`Aelie`	`if you need more than 1000 units on screen`
`22:07.45`	`Aelie`	`youre probably doing something wrong`
`22:07.45`	`Mexa_`	`But it will less fun to update windows 7 and shit:P`
`22:07.53`	`MindWorX`	`Hehe`
`22:07.55`	`egod_`	`1xBush = 1 unit`
`22:08.07`	`egod_`	`i got around, 300-400 bush`
`22:08.14`	`Aelie`	`tip`
`22:08.16`	`Mexa_`	`lots of presidents`
`22:08.26`	`Aelie`	`keep areas you arent in despawned`
`22:08.31`	`egod_`	`hm`
`22:08.33`	`egod_`	`your right`
`22:08.36`	`egod_`	`i can do that`
`22:08.49`	`egod_`	`yeah`
`22:08.52`	`Aelie`	`if you lead the spawning right`
`22:08.52`	`egod_`	`good idea`
`22:09.01`	`Aelie`	`they wont notice only their area has enemies in it`
`22:10.03`	`egod_`	`yup`
`22:10.05`	`egod_`	`well`
`22:10.19`	`egod_`	`idk in fact`
`22:10.38`	`egod_`	`the only thing in my map is Bush and some ennemy, i dont think will hit 1000`
`22:11.24`	`Aelie`	`...`
`22:11.30`	`Aelie`	`dont use 1000 as a hard limit`
`22:11.37`	`Aelie`	`thats just the most ive seen`
`22:11.39`	`egod_`	`yeah`
`22:13.11`	`Mexa_`	`lol, why did you write bush with a capital B?:P`
`22:13.20`	`egod_`	`idk`
`22:13.22`	`egod_`	`lol`
`22:13.29`	`Aelie`	`he imported a model of george bush`
`22:13.30`	`egod_`	`i cut so much bush today`
`22:13.31`	`egod_`	`its fun`
`22:13.31`	`Aelie`	`as his bush`
`22:13.46`	`Aelie`	`that way you can cut bush all day`
`22:13.47`	`Aelie`	`:D`
`22:13.53`	`Mexa_`	`^Â¨`
`22:14.24`	`egod_`	`dude im not american`
`22:16.47`	`MindWorX`	`Yah dude, he's not american`
`22:16.53`	`MindWorX`	`Are you stupid or somethin duude?`
`22:16.56`	`MindWorX`	`dude`
`22:17.54`	`Aelie`	`egod_: sorry, im stupid or something`
`22:18.27`	`egod_`	`im busy`
`22:18.36`	`egod_`	`with BUSH`
`22:19.48`	`Aelie`	`hes got you under the table? ill leave you to it then`
`22:21.44`	`egod_`	`will set up my map for 6xplayer so we can all cut Bush together`
`22:34.37`	`Aelie`	`jade`
`22:34.51`	`Aelie`	`lol.. now it sounds like some kind of drugss`
`22:35.01`	`Aelie`	`JademusSreg: is there a way to grey out a passive icon`
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`22:35.46`	`A1win`	`disable the ability`
`22:36.58`	`A1win`	`oh right, it's not an ability... mmh`
`22:37.58`	`A1win`	`dunno then except by greying out the actual image file`
`22:39.40`	`Aelie`	`boo`
`22:39.47`	`Aelie`	`guess thats what i gotta do`
`22:43.18`	`Aelie`	`why do people on mapster seem to think bump is actually called push`
`22:46.01`	`A1win`	`same meaning can have multiple words ;p`
`22:47.04`	`A1win`	`except that bump is an acronym when it comes to bumping posts`
`22:47.27`	`Aelie`	`bump is the accepted word though`
`22:48.23`	`A1win`	`mmh a backronym apparently`
`22:48.40`	`A1win`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_(Internet)`
`22:48.45`	`Aelie`	`â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦.__`
`22:48.46`	`Aelie`	â¦â¦â¦â¦./Â´Â¯/ââ¦â/Â´Â¯Â¯`Â·Â¸
`22:48.46`	`Aelie`	`â¦â¦â¦./â/â¦/â¦./â¦â¦./Â¨Â¯\`
`22:48.46`	`Aelie`	`â¦â¦..(â(â¦Â´â¦Â´â¦. Â¯~/ââ¦â)`
`22:48.46`	`Aelie`	`â¦â¦â¦\â¦â¦â¦â¦â¦..ââ¦../`
`22:48.46`	`Aelie`	`â¦â¦â¦.âââ¦\â¦â¦â¦. _.Â·Â´`
`22:48.46`	`Aelie`	`â¦â¦â¦â¦\â¦â¦â¦â¦..(`
`22:48.53`	`A1win`	`The term "to push-up" a thread is also used to describe this type of action.`
`22:49.25`	`A1win`	`it's on wikipedia so it must be right`
`22:50.31`	`Aelie`	`i dont know where you see that`
`22:51.04`	`A1win`	`;<`
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`22:52.27`	`A1win`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bump_(Internet)&diff=452954698&oldid=451195392`
`22:52.32`	`A1win`	`there D:`
`22:53.32`	`Aelie`	`how do you like my brofist`
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`22:56.44`	`MindWorX`	`Gah`
`22:56.51`	`MindWorX`	`Mexa_`
`22:57.04`	`MindWorX`	`Win8 developer preview wont fit a regular DVD disc`
`22:57.16`	`MindWorX`	`Now I have to download the smaller versions, and then download the tools afterwards.`
`22:57.19`	`MindWorX`	`That's so annoying`
`22:58.16`	`Aelie`	`lol microsoft`
`22:58.51`	`MindWorX`	`It has to be burned to a DVD9`
`22:58.53`	`MindWorX`	`sigh`
`22:59.02`	`MindWorX`	`Time to download the regular version instead of the developer version`
`22:59.09`	`MindWorX`	`As I don't have a flashdrive either to install it from`
`22:59.14`	`MindWorX`	`I should get a flashdrive`
`22:59.51`	`MindWorX`	`And it'll take me like an hour to get the other version`
`22:59.58`	`MindWorX`	`is in whiney mode for the next hour`
`23:01.02`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`23:01.09`	`MindWorX`	`whines`
`23:05.14`	`Mexa_`	`is that so?:P`
`23:06.06`	`MindWorX`	`Bah!`
`23:06.08`	`UloseTheGame`	`will someone on eu friend me?`
`23:06.25`	`UloseTheGame`	`I can't play this damned custom game because the chat channels don't have any people willing to`
`23:06.30`	`UloseTheGame`	`its just not right`
`23:06.37`	`Mexa_`	`Mindy, the iso is only on 3.6GB`
`23:06.42`	`MindWorX`	`No it's not`
`23:06.47`	`MindWorX`	`It's 4.8`
`23:06.50`	`Mexa_`	`oh`
`23:06.56`	`Mexa_`	`yeah, with the tools`
`23:06.57`	`MindWorX`	`Windows Developer Preview with developer tools English, 64-bit (x64)`
`23:06.57`	`MindWorX`	`DOWNLOAD (4.8 GB)`
`23:07.08`	`Mexa_`	`Windows Developer Preview English, 64-bit (x64)`
`23:07.08`	`Mexa_`	`DOWNLOAD (3.6 GB)`
`23:07.24`	`MindWorX`	`Yea, that's the one I'm getting instead`
`23:07.28`	`MindWorX`	`[00:57] <MindWorX> Now I have to download the smaller versions, and then download the tools afterwards.`
`23:07.48`	`nicoli_s`	`MindWorX:whatcha doing with the windows 8 stuff?`
`23:07.51`	`nicoli_s`	`working on some metro apps?`
`23:08.05`	`MindWorX`	`Just going to try it at first :)`
`23:08.09`	`Mexa_`	`Oh and`
`23:08.11`	`Mexa_`	`"Note: The .iso file that contains the developer tools requires a large capacity DVD called a DVD-9, as well as a DVD burner that can handle dual-layer (DL) DVDs. Most modern burners should be able to handle this format."`
`23:08.17`	`Mexa_`	`Pewpewpew, I guess you didn't read`
`23:08.20`	`Mexa_`	`:P`
`23:08.54`	`MindWorX`	`Doesn't say that where I'm looking`
`23:09.01`	`Mexa_`	`It does`
`23:09.04`	`Mexa_`	`At the bottom`
`23:09.13`	`Mexa_`	`"How to install[...]"`
`23:09.17`	`MindWorX`	`That's like nowhere near the description of the developer version :P`
`23:09.20`	`MindWorX`	`They should put it along with it`
`23:09.22`	`MindWorX`	`Silly MS`
`23:09.33`	`Mexa_`	`lol`
`23:10.50`	`UloseTheGame`	`mexa, mindworx`
`23:10.56`	`UloseTheGame`	`what are your codes/names`
`23:10.58`	`UloseTheGame`	`in sc2`
`23:11.58`	`Aelie`	`hm`
`23:12.06`	`Aelie`	`i got the buttons and stuff in for lucky chance`
`23:12.14`	`Aelie`	`im thinking 175 minerals`
`23:15.49`	`Mexa_`	`I don't remember`
`23:20.21`	`egod_`	`this commercial is unbeliveble lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUAYO7Zyydk`
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`23:31.58`	`UloseTheGame`	`im sad`
`23:32.12`	`UloseTheGame`	`I need to find this guy ArReaper`
`23:34.24`	`FockeWulf`	`AGGHGHGHGGH BEAMS AGHGHGHGHG`
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`23:48.07`	`Hati`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzAYngYypaA`
`23:48.09`	`Hati`	`why did i :(`
`23:54.28`	`Hati`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg7m2QvDmLk&feature=related`
`23:54.29`	`Hati`	`:D`

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