| 00:00.03 | Aelie | theres a thing in game ui called "loading screen tips" |
| 00:00.55 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 00:01.09 | JademusSreg | And it has no effect? |
| 00:01.12 | Aelie | nope |
| 00:01.39 | JademusSreg | I wonder if instead you could use a layout mod to just hide the frame. |
| 00:01.52 | Aelie | with my luck |
| 00:02.03 | Aelie | thatd be the only frame in the whole game that isnt attached to a style |
| 00:02.07 | Vailreth|2 | maps can not directly call the changes to that |
| 00:02.07 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 00:02.30 | JademusSreg | Yeah, there are a number of frames that are simply locked. |
| 00:03.05 | Vailreth|2 | that is a map can not refrence directly changes made to its loading screen tips, in order to modify those you have to use a mod file |
| 00:03.42 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:03.58 | JademusSreg | But mods seem to negatively impact stability. |
| 00:04.37 | Vailreth|2 | as well you must becarefull when editing the loading screen help text, |
| 00:05.13 | Vailreth|2 | because it can permanently alter the text for the un modified game |
| 00:05.22 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 00:05.35 | Vailreth|2 | yeah blizzard doesnt really want us to mod the game |
| 00:05.42 | Vailreth|2 | thats what i figure anyway |
| 00:06.58 | Vailreth|2 | would any one know how to get a missile to be an acceptable effect caster? |
| 00:07.49 | JademusSreg | Clarify? |
| 00:08.42 | Vailreth|2 | as far as i can tell missiles units are not acceptable units for the target launc location of effects |
| 00:09.21 | Vailreth|2 | i can currently retarget missles BUT the search area only works around the unit that launched the missile |
| 00:10.52 | Vailreth|2 | nope never mind i thought i had it working |
| 00:10.58 | Aelie | what should i put on the loading screen |
| 00:10.59 | Aelie | >_> |
| 00:11.51 | JademusSreg | A nice, informative loading screen image, and something pithy in the help frame. |
| 00:12.02 | Vailreth|2 | well i DO have it working Sorta |
| 00:12.05 | Vailreth|2 | bother... |
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| 00:26.08 | Aelie | ok |
| 00:26.12 | Aelie | im ready for another test |
| 00:26.13 | Aelie | :O |
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| 00:26.47 | tordy | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.05 | Vailreth|2 | now if i could just figure out how to make it do damage again |
| 00:28.13 | SoulTaker916_ | vail |
| 00:28.19 | SoulTaker916_ | sorry i got pulled away |
| 00:28.24 | SoulTaker916_ | :P |
| 00:28.34 | SoulTaker916_ | will u be on tomoirrow? |
| 00:28.48 | Vailreth|2 | y |
| 00:28.53 | Vailreth|2 | e |
| 00:28.54 | Vailreth|2 | s |
| 00:28.56 | SoulTaker916_ | u can help me |
| 00:29.08 | Vailreth|2 | i will try |
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| 00:34.04 | Aelie | anyone want to help me test? |
| 00:39.03 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 00:39.23 | JademusSreg | Gimmie a minute or two. |
| 00:40.36 | Vailreth|2 | well its almost perfect |
| 00:47.35 | Aelie | it is almost perfect |
| 00:49.34 | Vailreth|2 | any one know how to make a missile fire its impact effetc when it hits the ground |
| 00:49.41 | Aelie | lets do survival modeeeeee |
| 00:49.58 | JademusSreg | Done already? |
| 00:50.02 | Aelie | uh |
| 00:50.02 | Aelie | no |
| 00:50.06 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 00:50.07 | Aelie | but its pretty easy |
| 00:50.16 | Aelie | brb in 10 |
| 00:53.21 | Vailreth|2 | ah hah it works |
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| 01:24.35 | Aelie | jade |
| 01:24.50 | Aelie | should i reduce gem damage by 50% or reduce damage taken by 50% |
| 01:25.42 | Aelie | its ready, want to try it? |
| 01:25.49 | JademusSreg | Amounts to the same thing, really. |
| 01:25.58 | JademusSreg | I'm busy putting out a fire, so to speak. |
| 01:26.23 | JademusSreg | After I'm done, I'll be available. |
| 01:26.26 | Aelie | cool |
| 01:41.42 | Aelie | anyone else want to play |
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| 01:45.41 | egod | is your Gem TD fixxed? |
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| 01:49.56 | john | hey |
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| 01:51.56 | obliviron | hey |
| 01:52.10 | obliviron | Can someone help me with a problem? |
| 01:53.34 | egod | post your question |
| 01:53.45 | Aelie | http://i.imgur.com/g2gXS.jpg |
| 01:54.04 | obliviron | Nice aelie |
| 01:54.19 | obliviron | I'm trying to knock a unit back with another unit via data editor |
| 01:54.58 | obliviron | Everything works fine, Searcher applies behaviour, which applies the force periodically |
| 01:55.38 | obliviron | The only problem is that the force is always applied downwards, and no matter what I put in the target Effect/Value, it stays the same, knocking the unit downwards |
| 01:56.30 | Dustin | obliviron |
| 01:56.40 | Dustin | Im havign the same issues with mine since the patch |
| 01:56.47 | Dustin | I dont know what caused it or how to fix it sadly |
| 01:57.27 | egod | lawl |
| 01:57.30 | obliviron | Uh.. haha |
| 01:57.30 | obliviron | I just fixed it |
| 01:57.44 | obliviron | Setting it to unknown apparently defaults it to knock it away from the source |
| 01:58.04 | Dustin | editing what does that? |
| 01:58.06 | Agouti | can anyone tell me how you are supossed to do revives in 1.4? |
| 01:58.09 | obliviron | It may be defaulted to knocking it top right, however |
| 01:58.12 | obliviron | One sec |
| 01:58.34 | obliviron | Great - Instead of knocking the unit downwards it knocks it to the top-right of the map |
| 01:58.38 | Agouti | they are so damn bugged |
| 01:58.53 | obliviron | egod, any ideas? |
| 01:59.18 | egod | errr no |
| 01:59.30 | obliviron | Ah, there we go |
| 01:59.45 | obliviron | Setting it to Caster Unit without an effect reference fixed it |
| 02:00.05 | Dustin | on the force effect? |
| 02:00.09 | obliviron | Yes |
| 02:00.18 | Dustin | ima try it in a bit |
| 02:00.19 | obliviron | Make sure you have no effect reference set up, however |
| 02:00.26 | obliviron | That was my problem |
| 02:56.21 | Aelie | is there any way to stop the resource sharing? |
| 02:56.37 | Aelie | when people leave |
| 03:02.47 | obliviron | Hey aelie |
| 03:03.43 | Aelie | ? |
| 03:03.53 | Aelie | highlight and run? |
| 04:09.24 | Aelie | anyone around |
| 04:11.00 | XenoX101 | hey does anyone know how to do cool dialog animations or anything |
| 04:11.06 | XenoX101 | apart from fading |
| 04:11.11 | Mexa | I was considering to go to bed or so, soon |
| 04:11.15 | Mexa | How cool? |
| 04:11.26 | XenoX101 | well anything apart from fading really |
| 04:11.31 | XenoX101 | bejeweled had some cool stufff |
| 04:11.31 | XenoX101 | stuff* |
| 04:11.42 | XenoX101 | er starjeweled* |
| 04:11.54 | Mexa | I'm tempted to made a 2D engine with only dialogs |
| 04:11.57 | Mexa | :P |
| 04:12.00 | Mexa | *make |
| 04:12.13 | XenoX101 | options seem rather limited |
| 04:12.15 | Aelie | i need someone to help me for a minute |
| 04:12.17 | XenoX101 | I have a feeling they were using flash animations |
| 04:12.23 | Mexa | what options |
| 04:12.30 | XenoX101 | for effects and stuff |
| 04:12.37 | Mexa | Oh, you can use flash in dialogs |
| 04:12.46 | Mexa | But they are for Blizzard only |
| 04:12.48 | Mexa | map |
| 04:12.49 | Mexa | ss |
| 04:12.52 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 04:12.53 | XenoX101 | how so |
| 04:13.12 | Mexa | Needs to be signed by Blizzard in order to have the function doing anything |
| 04:13.17 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 04:13.32 | XenoX101 | is the flash integrated nicely |
| 04:13.33 | Mexa | Setting the file property of a dialog item is not authorized either |
| 04:13.36 | XenoX101 | like it scales well and everything |
| 04:13.40 | Mexa | Well |
| 04:13.40 | XenoX101 | and alpha looks good etc |
| 04:13.54 | Mexa | Look at the campaign |
| 04:14.04 | XenoX101 | I might do it later when my map is near done |
| 04:14.07 | XenoX101 | if its nice enough |
| 04:14.20 | XenoX101 | why look at the campaign |
| 04:14.23 | XenoX101 | where do they use flash |
| 04:14.29 | Mexa | In patch 1.4 they secretly added a dialog item type called movie. |
| 04:14.39 | Mexa | So perhaps movies will soon be possible |
| 04:14.56 | Aelie | id like if i could make my own achievements |
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| 04:16.21 | XenoX101 | how do colours work in text styles |
| 04:16.30 | XenoX101 | they aren't hex |
| 04:18.48 | XenoX101 | oh rgb |
| 04:18.49 | XenoX101 | how primitve |
| 04:19.08 | Aelie | primitive? |
| 04:19.24 | XenoX101 | less efficient than hex |
| 04:20.01 | XenoX101 | for the same amount of colours |
| 04:21.41 | Aelie | ... |
| 04:21.47 | Aelie | hex = rgb |
| 04:21.48 | Aelie | >_> |
| 04:23.02 | Mexa | Considering a textstyle is taking the color as a text or string, it doesn't really matter as they both would be converted to a color later. |
| 04:23.32 | Aelie | nevermind that |
| 04:23.41 | Aelie | what do you think hex is |
| 04:23.44 | Aelie | RRGGBB |
| 04:23.51 | Aelie | 2 characters of hex each |
| 04:23.53 | Mexa | or RRGGBBAA |
| 04:23.59 | Mexa | or AARRGGBB |
| 04:24.02 | Mexa | Or whatever order |
| 04:24.09 | Aelie | usually its rrggbbaa |
| 04:24.12 | Mexa | yeah |
| 04:24.18 | Aelie | mexa |
| 04:24.27 | Aelie | do you know how to make it not split resources when people leave |
| 04:24.43 | Mexa | It does that for nonmelee maps? |
| 04:25.20 | Aelie | yep |
| 04:25.31 | Mexa | hm |
| 04:27.00 | Mexa | no idea, actually |
| 04:28.26 | Aelie | doesnt appear there is a way |
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| 05:25.00 | Aelie | hmm |
| 05:25.03 | Aelie | great towers~ |
| 05:54.36 | Dustin | Copy down each of these models is gonna be tedious |
| 05:54.42 | Dustin | copying* |
| 05:59.37 | Aelie | huh |
| 05:59.42 | Aelie | theres less than there were before |
| 06:00.05 | Dustin | Its still alot :P |
| 06:01.05 | Aelie | god the editor is being slow |
| 06:03.24 | Agouti | has anyone played around with trigger based visual effects? |
| 06:04.08 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 06:04.14 | JademusSreg | I haven't. |
| 06:04.29 | JademusSreg | Time to start work on my new project. |
| 06:04.33 | JademusSreg | Prototyping ahoy. |
| 06:05.01 | Mexa | What's your new project Jademus? |
| 06:05.22 | Aelie | he wont tell you |
| 06:05.23 | Aelie | ;) |
| 06:05.24 | JademusSreg | A... [suspenseful pause] |
| 06:05.29 | JademusSreg | Tower Defense. |
| 06:05.41 | JademusSreg | Only, you know me, it will be different. |
| 06:05.48 | Aelie | im interested :p |
| 06:05.54 | Aelie | let me play it when its playable |
| 06:06.38 | JademusSreg | I may bring some people in on the project after I finish the prototype. |
| 06:07.15 | Aelie | sounds fun |
| 06:11.57 | ________________ | LOL jades ur doing a TD? |
| 06:12.01 | ________________ | But you hate TD's |
| 06:12.09 | SoulTaker916_ | RAWR |
| 06:12.10 | JademusSreg | Correct. |
| 06:12.11 | SoulTaker916_ | dont LOL |
| 06:12.16 | SoulTaker916_ | gah! |
| 06:12.20 | ________________ | oops, 4got it yells at u |
| 06:12.22 | ________________ | sry :3 |
| 06:12.23 | JademusSreg | I have some ideas I'll be prototyping. |
| 06:12.26 | SoulTaker916_ | :P |
| 06:12.47 | JademusSreg | If they prove entertaining to me, I'll develop it further and release it. |
| 06:13.04 | ________________ | ic ic... hopefully u don't start to hate ur own TD like TC |
| 06:13.06 | ________________ | ): |
| 06:13.11 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 06:13.14 | ________________ | thru all the testing/playing |
| 06:13.51 | ________________ | sad days, school is stopping me from getting much work done on my map already and its only like the 3rd day |
| 06:15.09 | JademusSreg | I'm calling it Subversion Tower Defense. The sinister Phallux Brood seeks to invade the worldship known to the Protoss as Veneria, and only the valiant warriors of the Prophyllarium can ensure the ship remains impregnable. |
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| 06:16.33 | JademusSreg | Players will employ Collision Negating Defensive Matrices each round to delay the penetration by the Phallux. |
| 06:17.00 | JademusSreg | That's all I shall say for now. |
| 06:17.06 | Aelie | lol |
| 06:17.12 | Aelie | jade likes my td tho |
| 06:17.13 | Aelie | :< |
| 06:17.29 | Aelie | ... |
| 06:17.36 | Aelie | sounds like every other td ever made, lol |
| 06:17.36 | JademusSreg | Yes. I can say it is with confidence it is not terrible. |
| 06:17.38 | Aelie | no offense |
| 06:17.51 | JademusSreg | Don't worry. |
| 06:17.55 | JademusSreg | In time, you'll see. |
| 06:17.56 | Aelie | whats the gimmick |
| 06:18.01 | Aelie | tell meeeeeeeeeee |
| 06:18.09 | Aelie | though |
| 06:18.12 | Aelie | you gave me an idea |
| 06:18.15 | JademusSreg | Naw, I'm not going to discuss the mechanics at this time. |
| 06:18.20 | JademusSreg | Only the premise. |
| 06:18.24 | Aelie | for another map called subversion tower defense |
| 06:18.33 | JademusSreg | And a sharp mind will find some humor in the premise. |
| 06:18.34 | Aelie | except this one is based on the source control package :D |
| 06:20.26 | SoulTaker916_ | im horny... |
| 06:20.37 | SoulTaker916_ | lets get some bitches in here! |
| 06:20.38 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 06:24.17 | Mexa | derpityderp |
| 06:25.29 | Mexa | I wonder how a game like Sonic Xtreme would have been now |
| 06:25.49 | Mexa | If the thought of using a 360degree camera would be any appealing |
| 06:25.52 | Mexa | :O |
| 06:26.12 | SoulTaker916_ | who was working on the ledgend of zelda game? |
| 06:26.15 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzvS_beXtXk |
| 06:26.57 | SoulTaker916_ | dreamcast? |
| 06:27.32 | Mexa | cancelled for the sega saturn |
| 06:27.54 | Mexa | so 1995 or so |
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| 06:28.17 | SoulTaker916_ | well cause the dreamcast came out i think |
| 06:28.19 | SoulTaker916_ | anyways |
| 06:28.29 | SoulTaker916_ | the camera is all weird |
| 06:28.35 | Mexa | The dreamcast came out about 1999 |
| 06:28.38 | Dustin | Aelie |
| 06:28.45 | SoulTaker916_ | no way really? |
| 06:29.00 | Mexa | yes |
| 06:29.00 | Dustin | Since these models are all new, you could just copy paste them into your map an then tie them in with the actors and set tints |
| 06:29.13 | SoulTaker916_ | na i thought it came out before the n64? |
| 06:29.28 | Mexa | no |
| 06:29.37 | Aelie | huh |
| 06:29.43 | Mexa | N64 belongs to the same era as ps1 and Sega Saturn |
| 06:30.11 | Mexa | Dreamcast came out early for the next area, in which it got dominated by gamecube and ps2 |
| 06:30.39 | Mexa | Sadly, since back at the time it was released, it was the best console on the market |
| 06:31.01 | SoulTaker916_ | well i thought the dreamcast got dominated cause it was a surprise release and the developers had no real games for it? |
| 06:31.02 | Mexa | technically speaking. |
| 06:31.06 | SoulTaker916_ | thats what killed sega? |
| 06:31.20 | Aelie | knocked them out of the market, sure |
| 06:31.23 | Aelie | er |
| 06:31.25 | Aelie | console |
| 06:31.52 | Mexa | Sega made an awful many stupid choices in the past, in which perhaps led people and developer to buy and develop for it |
| 06:32.03 | Curry | buddy told me it was a surprise leak and gave sony an opportunity to out do the dreamcast |
| 06:32.16 | Mexa | A surprise leak? |
| 06:32.18 | Curry | but that's just rumor |
| 06:32.32 | Mexa | I doubt it was. |
| 06:32.37 | Curry | like, someone leaked it a day or two before it was going to be announced |
| 06:32.58 | Aelie | Dustin: im fine with whatever |
| 06:33.10 | SoulTaker916_ | thats what i was reading in game informer |
| 06:33.18 | SoulTaker916_ | they fairly suddenly released it |
| 06:33.26 | SoulTaker916_ | and no one had anything for it |
| 06:33.48 | Mexa | You mean that the console itself as hardware was leaked before the announcement? |
| 06:33.56 | SoulTaker916_ | no |
| 06:33.57 | SoulTaker916_ | like |
| 06:34.01 | Currydevil | no, the idea was leaked before the announcement |
| 06:34.04 | SoulTaker916_ | it was a secret development |
| 06:34.07 | SoulTaker916_ | and suddenly |
| 06:34.11 | SoulTaker916_ | they released it |
| 06:34.25 | SoulTaker916_ | and none of the developers knew and had any games made |
| 06:34.28 | SoulTaker916_ | or somthing like that |
| 06:34.28 | Mexa | So wow, someone leaked the announcement two days before they announced it |
| 06:34.39 | SoulTaker916_ | somthing like that |
| 06:34.39 | Currydevil | gave sony an opportunity to add dvd player functionality to the ps2, or so he said |
| 06:34.47 | Currydevil | to outdo the dreamcast |
| 06:34.59 | Currydevil | anyways, that's what he told me the other day. lol |
| 06:35.01 | SoulTaker916_ | so the developers were expected to make good 3D games in a day |
| 06:35.27 | Mexa | Oh, there was a leak |
| 06:35.29 | Mexa | "Sega decided to use Yamamoto's design and suggested to 3Dfx that they would be using their hardware in the upcoming console, but Sega later opted to use the PowerVR hardware of Sato's design. This was attributed to 3Dfx leaking details and technical specifications of the then-secret Dreamcast project when declaring their Initial Public Offering[11] in June 1997, a move which readers on |
| 06:35.30 | Mexa | Gamespy.com named "one of the dumbest mistakes in video game history".[12] Sega's shift in design prompted a lawsuit by 3dfx that was eventually settled.[13][14]" |
| 06:35.31 | SoulTaker916_ | sony is alwyas trying to one up people based on hard ware |
| 06:35.33 | SoulTaker916_ | its kinda dumb |
| 06:35.52 | SoulTaker916_ | especialy since windows countered that by releasing alot of there games on pc |
| 06:36.06 | SoulTaker916_ | with makes xbox "sudo" have the best graphics |
| 06:36.07 | Currydevil | yeah |
| 06:37.37 | Mexa | Lol.. there was a unreleased but fully playable version of half-life on dreamcast |
| 06:37.54 | Mexa | Apparantly now floating on the web |
| 06:37.55 | Mexa | :P |
| 06:37.55 | SoulTaker916_ | lol |
| 06:38.17 | SoulTaker916_ | i just wish oracel would support graphic compatibility |
| 06:38.35 | SoulTaker916_ | i cant even watch youtube cause the graphic cards arnt supported |
| 06:38.36 | SoulTaker916_ | :( |
| 06:38.53 | Mexa | oracel? |
| 06:38.58 | Mexa | or Oracle? |
| 06:39.26 | SoulTaker916_ | si |
| 06:39.55 | SoulTaker916_ | they said they would fix it by the end of the year suposidly |
| 06:39.57 | SoulTaker916_ | so ill wait |
| 06:40.26 | SoulTaker916_ | just irratating being unable to watch porn in class |
| 06:40.27 | SoulTaker916_ | :P |
| 06:40.27 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 06:43.13 | Currydevil | I don't suppose it's possible to validate the owning player of a buff? |
| 06:46.30 | Aelie | well |
| 06:46.36 | Aelie | duplicating doesnt name the model right now |
| 06:46.41 | Aelie | so you have to go change it yourself |
| 06:50.26 | Mexa | lol |
| 06:50.45 | Mexa | Soultaker, are you serious? You sound porn addicted |
| 06:51.18 | Aelie | blizzard: we break as many things as we fix, or your money back(just kidding about money back lol) (tm) |
| 06:51.44 | SoulTaker916_ | im joking |
| 06:51.53 | SoulTaker916_ | honestly i want to play starcraft in class |
| 06:52.41 | Mexa | If you're not there to learn or to be educated, then wtf are you even doing there? |
| 06:53.15 | Aelie | prob cause the state mandates it |
| 06:53.15 | SoulTaker916_ | well im learnign java |
| 06:53.17 | SoulTaker916_ | or databases |
| 06:53.19 | SoulTaker916_ | the issue is |
| 06:53.24 | SoulTaker916_ | ive taken C++ |
| 06:53.26 | SoulTaker916_ | and php |
| 06:53.28 | SoulTaker916_ | and such |
| 06:53.33 | SoulTaker916_ | so its kinda lame |
| 06:53.39 | SoulTaker916_ | the databases i know SQL |
| 06:53.50 | SoulTaker916_ | and stuff from doing hobbies like SC2 map making |
| 06:54.02 | SoulTaker916_ | so its kinda boring for me |
| 06:54.06 | SoulTaker916_ | not challenging |
| 06:54.25 | Mexa | Do the tasks and go home |
| 06:54.27 | SoulTaker916_ | like im currently writing a essay on making a "hello world" html page |
| 06:54.33 | SoulTaker916_ | and i want to suidcide |
| 06:54.38 | SoulTaker916_ | its for a research class |
| 06:54.43 | SoulTaker916_ | that im required tot ake |
| 06:54.48 | SoulTaker916_ | i cant |
| 06:54.57 | SoulTaker916_ | i got casses stacked |
| 06:55.01 | SoulTaker916_ | i got |
| 06:55.31 | SoulTaker916_ | java, stufygroup, databases, network review, calculus |
| 06:55.38 | SoulTaker916_ | 8am-9pm |
| 06:56.13 | Mexa | 5 classes in the same hour? |
| 06:56.26 | SoulTaker916_ | am-pm |
| 06:56.30 | SoulTaker916_ | lol |
| 06:56.33 | Mexa | oh |
| 06:56.36 | Mexa | right |
| 06:56.58 | Mexa | brb¨ |
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| 07:02.38 | Mexa_ | Oh wells, I'm going to bed |
| 07:02.42 | Mexa_ | Seeya |
| 07:04.00 | AppleOTemp | wait |
| 07:04.02 | AppleOTemp | mexa |
| 07:04.27 | Mexa_ | derpity |
| 07:04.46 | Mexa_ | make it quick |
| 07:04.50 | Mexa_ | The movie is starting |
| 07:04.58 | Agouti | anyone played with Overlay Image Texture trigger? |
| 07:05.22 | AppleOTemp | dont forget to brush your teeth for atleast 2 minutes and the gums are the most important part |
| 07:05.28 | AppleOTemp | dont brush too hard |
| 07:05.47 | SoulTaker916_ | lol.... |
| 07:05.53 | SoulTaker916_ | i wish u cared about me like that... |
| 07:05.54 | SoulTaker916_ | :( |
| 07:06.01 | SoulTaker916_ | *walks away slowly* |
| 07:06.12 | Mexa_ | thanks pa', I'll write that down |
| 07:06.31 | Mexa_ | byebye |
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| 15:04.38 | Vailreth|2 | hello |
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| 15:13.11 | Ashamed | ergz |
| 15:14.07 | Keyeszx | How randomly generated can you get with sc2 maps? |
| 15:15.06 | Keyeszx | Also can you create an RPG where the melee player has a combo system and the range player has a third person shooter system and the mage is just a mage, i got nothing unique for them |
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| 15:31.28 | Ashamed | keyeszx all that should work |
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| 15:35.49 | ShlugSalt | hi guys:) |
| 15:37.09 | Ashamed | ello |
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| 15:38.18 | merlinludwig2 | hello people |
| 15:38.23 | ShlugSalt | anyone familiar with 3ds max? |
| 15:38.42 | ShlugSalt | hi merlinludwig2 |
| 15:39.35 | merlinludwig2 | sry, havent used that program in like 2 years, and even then i wasnt that familiar with it |
| 15:40.36 | ShlugSalt | oh no problem :) i have to switch to it from anim8or |
| 15:40.59 | ShlugSalt | its quite a proccess learning a new program |
| 15:43.17 | merlinludwig | its a process learning anything new. my cousin couldnt learn how to use the galaxy editor for example |
| 15:43.35 | ShlugSalt | lol yeah its suprizingly complicated |
| 15:44.38 | merlinludwig | my solution is to visualize everything, helps me learn. |
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| 15:45.11 | ShlugSalt | yeah i agree , although i spend hours reading tutorials and articles |
| 15:45.44 | ShlugSalt | sometimes i just cant find the imformation im looking for though |
| 15:46.12 | merlinludwig | yeah, the editor is notorious for lack of info |
| 15:46.52 | ShlugSalt | yeah i havent made it into the editor much accept to export the graphics im trying to work on |
| 15:47.46 | merlinludwig | i tend to just experiment myself, i spent hours just making a single dialog. tweaking, retweaking, making function to use ingame chat to control the dialog |
| 15:49.30 | merlinludwig | same with anomation models, trying to test out different scales ingame i make a function that allows me to set the animation scale while ingame, that allowed me to see what diff scales looked like without always reloading the map |
| 15:50.02 | ShlugSalt | yeah i do the same, but working in 3ds max building models is more complicated than the anim8or app i used to use |
| 15:50.28 | ShlugSalt | nice solution to scaling |
| 15:50.44 | ShlugSalt | have you ever built a model from scratch? |
| 15:51.19 | ShlugSalt | bones and all? |
| 15:51.50 | merlinludwig | i did once when i was designing an electrolysis cell. used 3ds max to make a 3d model of it...never got into anything movement related though |
| 15:51.59 | merlinludwig | animations r my bane |
| 15:52.45 | merlinludwig | remember, its all about piecing together subcomponents |
| 15:53.20 | merlinludwig | if u can make a leg that moves, ur a step closer to making a marine |
| 15:53.26 | ShlugSalt | yeah i have spent about 40 hours this month reading |
| 15:53.35 | ShlugSalt | i can move a leg easy |
| 15:54.17 | ShlugSalt | its other movement and positioning and lots of odd stuff that i cant find in forums |
| 15:54.22 | Jademus | I awaken. |
| 15:54.30 | ShlugSalt | hi jademus |
| 15:54.47 | merlinludwig | just in time...conversations started |
| 15:55.23 | ShlugSalt | i was wondering did you remove moderators on purpose or was that just with the update? |
| 15:55.27 | JademusSreg | What's up? |
| 15:55.39 | JademusSreg | I reset the system to be more secure. |
| 15:56.01 | JademusSreg | Just give me your account handle and I'll reinstate you. |
| 15:56.06 | merlinludwig | shlugs havin 3dsmax issues. i got nothin |
| 15:56.28 | ShlugSalt | yeah im haveing problems |
| 15:57.05 | JademusSreg | Since banks can be forged, and ban banks can be deleted, I rewrote the system to use hardcoded player handles in the map. |
| 15:57.56 | ShlugSalt | my # is 862 |
| 15:58.15 | ShlugSalt | have you used rds max any jademus? |
| 15:58.28 | ShlugSalt | 3ds* |
| 15:58.38 | JademusSreg | Your account handle is a folder in C:\Users\[user]\Documents\StarCraft II\Accounts\1965954\ |
| 15:58.56 | JademusSreg | Naw, I've never done any modeling. |
| 15:59.01 | ShlugSalt | oh lol just a sec |
| 15:59.09 | JademusSreg | Shadow_Killer has, but he may be afk. |
| 15:59.48 | JademusSreg | Shadow_Killer is the modeler who made the custom assets for Photon Cycles. |
| 16:00.51 | ShlugSalt | ok well ill ask him when i get the chance :) thanks for the good advise as always |
| 16:01.17 | ShlugSalt | my number is 73592034 |
| 16:02.27 | JademusSreg | Erm, what's the folder in that folder? |
| 16:02.41 | JademusSreg | Something like 1-S2-1-blahblah |
| 16:03.48 | ShlugSalt | um maybe 1-S2-1-2872639 |
| 16:03.55 | merlinludwig | now that i have learned how to use the galaxy editor, and made a decent framework for a map, my cousin wants me to learn android development next. i gotta quit listening to him lol |
| 16:04.03 | JademusSreg | Thanks. |
| 16:04.19 | JademusSreg | merlin, haha. |
| 16:05.36 | ShlugSalt | i was using anim8or and life was good..... but .. nothing converts properly for .m3 |
| 16:06.45 | JademusSreg | Publishing a new version; you're a moderator again. |
| 16:06.50 | ShlugSalt | im not sure whether i should learn 3ds max or maybe i should just learn what my problem with conversion is. both awfully complicated |
| 16:07.13 | JademusSreg | I also fixed a bug where the last player left in a game wouldn't win. |
| 16:07.22 | ShlugSalt | oh .. thanks jademus, i always feel like im hassling people |
| 16:07.42 | ShlugSalt | cool i thought that might have been in thte update |
| 16:08.18 | ShlugSalt | i promised a friend that i would ask you, about team slayer |
| 16:08.42 | JademusSreg | Yeah, it no longer reads banks to get admin state. It compares the player handle in game to a list of player handles in the map. |
| 16:08.53 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 16:09.01 | A1win | I'm wondering if I should turn my two simultaneous weapon system into one main weapon + missiles, or two main weapons you can choose from (possibly by giving each weapon its own shoot ability)... but I can't have two simultaneously usable weapons if I require the player to fire each shot as an ability order |
| 16:09.06 | JademusSreg | I guess I should get around to that. |
| 16:09.28 | ShlugSalt | oh , were you already planning on it? |
| 16:09.42 | JademusSreg | Eventually. =D |
| 16:09.59 | JademusSreg | But I suppose people have been waiting a while. |
| 16:11.27 | ShlugSalt | yeah i havnt had much time latley to work on my graphics, to much home and automotive repair before winter |
| 16:11.30 | JademusSreg | A1, clarify? I don't quite grasp the issue. |
| 16:12.35 | A1win | I mean currently the mech has two weapon slots where the player can choose weapons to put into, let's say a machine gun and a flamethrower |
| 16:13.02 | A1win | then you give the attack order and it shoots towards a point... but it doesn't make sense to shoot with two weapons with different range unless the enemy is close enough for both |
| 16:13.50 | JademusSreg | Oh, simultaneous weapons fire? |
| 16:14.21 | A1win | yeah that's how it's atm but I should change it |
| 16:14.56 | JademusSreg | The way I see it, each weapon should have a separate ability. |
| 16:15.23 | A1win | that's what I was thinking, if I want to give them two weapons they can choose from during a mission |
| 16:15.32 | JademusSreg | And on the command card Machine Gun would have a little machine gun button, and Rocket Launcher would have a little rocket launcher button, and so forth. |
| 16:15.39 | A1win | but... I'm not sure if I want to, since there will only be so many different weapons... |
| 16:16.17 | A1win | so instead I thought that the mech should only have one main weapon, and the 2nd slot would be used for a missile battery or something that wouldn't be used all the time |
| 16:16.20 | A1win | *something else |
| 16:16.39 | JademusSreg | Amounts to the same thing, more or less. =D |
| 16:17.01 | A1win | since the player can switch his weapon per mission anyway, I don't think there's much need to switch them during the mission |
| 16:17.09 | A1win | mmhm |
| 16:17.56 | A1win | just thinking whether or not I should limit the missile count or limit it to only anti-air or what |
| 16:18.53 | JademusSreg | Does one usually encounter air units in a corridor? |
| 16:18.55 | JademusSreg | I jest. |
| 16:19.04 | A1win | hehe |
| 16:19.25 | A1win | it could be the roof of a space station or whatever :P |
| 16:19.49 | JademusSreg | Make it more effective against air. Especially if it's a multi-missile launch. |
| 16:20.22 | A1win | maybe give it a cooldown rather than charges and make it do a lot of damage per use... |
| 16:21.09 | ShlugSalt | i like that idea |
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| 16:21.56 | A1win | and splash damage |
| 16:22.05 | A1win | then I can make a lot of different missile batteries by modifying those values :P |
| 16:22.44 | A1win | so yeah, main weapon + missiles that is |
| 16:29.54 | JademusSreg | Sounds great. |
| 16:29.56 | Ashamed | oh shiz |
| 16:30.02 | Ashamed | the old republic finally has a release date |
| 16:30.03 | Ashamed | W@HAT |
| 16:37.14 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 16:42.25 | ShlugSalt | well ill see you guys later, thanks again for the advice jademus, ill try and catch up with shadow_killer later some time:) |
| 16:44.02 | Ashamed | so who is going to check out the old republic? |
| 16:47.03 | JademusSreg | Not me. |
| 16:51.29 | Ashamed | jade |
| 16:51.34 | Ashamed | you dont wanna play a mmo with me :( |
| 16:52.57 | JademusSreg | I don't wanna play a mmo at all. |
| 16:53.53 | Ashamed | WHAT >< not even a STARWARS MMO |
| 16:54.07 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 16:54.46 | JademusSreg | World of Darkness is the only mmo I've seen that might be worth taking a look, but I wouldn't pay to play it. |
| 17:08.05 | Dustin | ASHAMEd |
| 17:08.06 | Dustin | ME |
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| 17:09.56 | A1win | whee, now I have my UI set to support the missile items xO |
| 17:22.08 | Aelie | zzzzz |
| 17:22.27 | Aelie | Dustin |
| 17:22.46 | Aelie | http://i.imgur.com/LN5K1.jpg |
| 17:23.37 | Jum-Jum | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGbo50Ar420 |
| 17:23.42 | Jum-Jum | I honestly can't stop looking at this video |
| 17:24.23 | Aelie | why? |
| 17:24.44 | Jum-Jum | because its funny |
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| 17:40.48 | Dustin | Nice |
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| 17:59.22 | Aelie | which do you like more for the model dustin |
| 18:00.16 | Dustin | left one |
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| 18:11.28 | Ashamed | dustin supz |
| 18:16.42 | Aelie | DUSTIN |
| 18:16.52 | Aelie | i need the most ridiculously large model for the stone of godf |
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| 18:35.56 | Dustin | lol |
| 18:37.21 | Aelie | hm |
| 18:37.27 | Aelie | i thought my speaker was busted |
| 18:37.32 | Aelie | then i thought the cable was busted |
| 18:37.41 | Aelie | now i just think that album is crackly... |
| 18:39.18 | Ashamed | FU WINDOWS |
| 18:40.45 | A1win | whoever was asking about the targeted ability dummy yesterday... seems it does need a dummy effect as well, or at least that's how I have it set up in one of my maps D: |
| 18:44.33 | Aelie | nope..... either that speaker is busted or the cable is broke |
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| 19:14.52 | Aelie | pasting command cards crashes galaxy edit |
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| 19:24.14 | A1win | I'm thinking of making left click work as an attack order... would that be bad for network traffic? D: |
| 19:25.51 | A1win | hmm if I give it a cooldown and check that in conditions... |
| 19:28.20 | Ashamed | A1win do it |
| 19:28.24 | Ashamed | FUCK NETWORK |
| 19:28.35 | Ashamed | ... but you are warned if you do it.. you will be breaking copyright |
| 19:29.20 | A1win | ? :X |
| 19:33.01 | Aelie | Dustin: great gems all have a special ability |
| 19:33.23 | Dustin | ohh |
| 19:33.44 | Ashamed | but its breaking copyright dustin :( |
| 19:33.46 | Aelie | amethyst gets air armor reduction |
| 19:33.54 | Ashamed | apperntly God.. already has the copyright on GEMS |
| 19:33.55 | Aelie | aquamarine gets a haste aura |
| 19:33.57 | Dustin | what is |
| 19:34.11 | Aelie | diamond crits for x5 |
| 19:34.20 | Aelie | emerald's poison lasts 60s |
| 19:34.27 | Aelie | same with sapphire slow |
| 19:34.32 | Aelie | ruby hits 3 targets |
| 19:34.38 | Aelie | opal has 50% haste |
| 19:34.47 | Aelie | topaz has ground armor reduce |
| 19:35.00 | Aelie | and theyre super tall |
| 19:36.24 | Dustin | So aqua and opal both have haste aura? |
| 19:36.28 | Aelie | stacks |
| 19:37.37 | Aelie | but the chances are super low |
| 19:37.44 | Aelie | of all the testing ive done so far |
| 19:37.53 | Aelie | ive only rolled two perfects one time |
| 19:38.19 | Aelie | its approximately 1/6400 chances |
| 19:38.39 | Aelie | actually a bit higher |
| 19:38.43 | Aelie | since you have 5 gems |
| 19:38.45 | Aelie | but |
| 19:38.53 | Aelie | still worse than 1/1000 |
| 19:39.04 | JademusSreg | Having my new connection installed. |
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| 20:05.40 | SoulTaker916_ | IM BACK! |
| 20:06.05 | Ashamed | NO |
| 20:06.06 | Ashamed | NOOOOOO |
| 20:06.37 | SoulTaker916_ | atleast someone is distrat from hearing that |
| 20:06.40 | SoulTaker916_ | that makes me happy |
| 20:09.07 | Aelie | distraught |
| 20:09.54 | SoulTaker916_ | i think thta was my first time spelling that word |
| 20:10.00 | SoulTaker916_ | *trys to think* |
| 20:10.00 | Ashamed | DESTROT |
| 20:10.21 | Ashamed | DIZSTROT |
| 20:15.09 | Vailreth|2 | any one know how to test if an ability is targeting a point or a unit with only data |
| 20:17.52 | SoulTaker916_ | well |
| 20:17.57 | SoulTaker916_ | u could test with a trigger |
| 20:18.01 | SoulTaker916_ | but u dont want that |
| 20:18.02 | SoulTaker916_ | :P |
| 20:18.04 | SoulTaker916_ | anyways |
| 20:18.19 | SoulTaker916_ | vail lets do this targeting system |
| 20:19.22 | Vailreth|2 | i am working on a seeker missile that can be fired at point or unit and will retarget to the nearest unit |
| 20:19.35 | Vailreth|2 | or explode on the ground |
| 20:19.44 | SoulTaker916_ | ah |
| 20:19.58 | SoulTaker916_ | is the effect and behavior complex or simple? |
| 20:20.00 | Vailreth|2 | my isse is that when firing at a unit it fires two missiles |
| 20:20.06 | Vailreth|2 | issue* |
| 20:20.19 | SoulTaker916_ | cause if its complex, i would like a copy |
| 20:20.20 | SoulTaker916_ | if not |
| 20:20.25 | SoulTaker916_ | i would like to make it |
| 20:20.37 | SoulTaker916_ | mabe its 1 missles and 2 actors? |
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| 20:21.11 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 20:21.19 | Vailreth|2 | it fires one missile from the raven and one missile from the ground beneath the raven |
| 20:21.44 | A1win | JademusSreg, any experience with an attack system where you hold down mouse button to continuously attack? |
| 20:21.48 | SoulTaker916_ | check the launch point? |
| 20:21.52 | SoulTaker916_ | on all effects? |
| 20:22.11 | JademusSreg | Yeah. But in first and third person systems. |
| 20:22.26 | Ashamed | jade |
| 20:22.33 | Ashamed | your new connectiong ood? |
| 20:22.42 | Ashamed | you talking about a new connection for your internets? |
| 20:22.59 | JademusSreg | I suppose all you need is to check for Mouse Button Up, and use the ability channel start thingy event to initialize. |
| 20:23.07 | JademusSreg | Yes, should be. |
| 20:23.11 | Vailreth|2 | i think i may have a fix |
| 20:23.21 | SoulTaker916_ | oh? |
| 20:24.03 | Vailreth|2 | nope no fix yet |
| 20:24.06 | A1win | the problem is that if I start shooting with mouse down on a point and then move the mouse on a unit while holding it down, the game doesn't recognize that as highlighting the unit and even the target cursor doesn't show up... so when I'm shooting at units, I'm actually shooting at the point behind that unit |
| 20:24.25 | SoulTaker916_ | so what did u do |
| 20:24.30 | SoulTaker916_ | cause im noob with data |
| 20:24.38 | SoulTaker916_ | u made a behavior with a search effect? |
| 20:24.48 | SoulTaker916_ | how do u attack it to the missile? |
| 20:25.07 | Vailreth|2 | i realized that the search effect to relaunch the missle dosent work |
| 20:25.38 | Vailreth|2 | you need to turn on retarget, give it a retarget range and make sure the mover for the missile is guidance based |
| 20:26.03 | Aelie | http://i.imgur.com/xefgn.jpg |
| 20:26.32 | SoulTaker916_ | wat were is this? |
| 20:26.56 | Ashamed | stone of god |
| 20:27.01 | Ashamed | = op tower? |
| 20:27.09 | Aelie | yeah |
| 20:27.11 | Aelie | op tower |
| 20:27.23 | Aelie | if you get 4 of the same perfect gem |
| 20:27.26 | Aelie | thats what you get |
| 20:27.34 | Ashamed | so impossable ? |
| 20:27.38 | Aelie | but the chances of that happening are like... 1 in 500,000 |
| 20:27.56 | Aelie | noti mpossible :p |
| 20:28.06 | Ashamed | lol so you are telling me the tower may show up 1-5 times in the entire life of your map lol |
| 20:28.08 | Ashamed | thats pretty cool :) |
| 20:28.12 | Aelie | thats why it also makes your next lottery ticket an automatic winner |
| 20:28.24 | Aelie | :D |
| 20:28.31 | Aelie | special abilitiesss |
| 20:29.02 | Ashamed | i like random stuff |
| 20:29.08 | Ashamed | my rpg will have super rare shit all over the place |
| 20:32.11 | Aelie | i was kind of lucky |
| 20:32.35 | Aelie | http://i.imgur.com/BttQD.jpg |
| 20:32.44 | Aelie | i only had to drop this many towers to get 4 perfects |
| 20:32.55 | Ashamed | really? |
| 20:33.17 | Ashamed | i would look at your random triggers |
| 20:33.54 | Ashamed | 1 out of 500,000 should be harder then that >< |
| 20:35.27 | Aelie | well |
| 20:35.28 | Aelie | the trick is |
| 20:35.53 | Ashamed | theres a trick |
| 20:35.56 | Ashamed | give me the trick |
| 20:36.01 | Ashamed | i wanna be like BOOM OWNED |
| 20:36.03 | Ashamed | every game i play |
| 20:36.06 | Aelie | i had over 125 chances |
| 20:36.12 | Aelie | you only get 5 in the real game |
| 20:36.13 | Aelie | :p |
| 20:36.14 | Ashamed | i use to play gem td all the time |
| 20:36.37 | Aelie | a royal flush may be rare in a 5 card hand but |
| 20:36.46 | Aelie | if you ahve a 26 card hand, its much more common :) |
| 20:36.59 | Ashamed | understood |
| 20:37.11 | Ashamed | the way i read it seemed like you were saying you were testing it normally |
| 20:37.21 | Aelie | if this tower is ever actually gotten in a real game |
| 20:37.25 | Aelie | ill be shocked |
| 20:37.31 | Ashamed | do you need to get all 4 perfects on the first chance? |
| 20:37.40 | Aelie | all 4 perfects in one round |
| 20:37.45 | Ashamed | like you dont combine them ?? its all one round |
| 20:37.46 | Ashamed | yah yah |
| 20:38.14 | Aelie | greats, youll probably see one drop every 2-3 games if you play with 8 people |
| 20:42.37 | Ashamed | what one perfect? |
| 20:42.44 | Aelie | great gems |
| 20:42.47 | Aelie | 2x perfect |
| 20:42.51 | Ashamed | ok |
| 20:45.36 | Aelie | Dustin: rubies have to be fireballs, sorry :D |
| 20:47.51 | Aelie | im gonna swap some of them :p |
| 20:48.05 | SoulTaker916_ | are there any city models out there for sc2? |
| 20:48.10 | Aelie | the diamond one should be sapphire's |
| 20:51.51 | A1win | damn this bnet lag is annoying but I guess it's bearable with these controls... |
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| 21:03.22 | SoulTaker916_ | vail |
| 21:13.26 | A1win | urgh... now I need a way to detect when the mouse click is used for targeting an ability... otherwise my attack order will override the ability order |
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| 21:14.17 | Vailreth|2 | god i wish you could edit failur results |
| 21:17.44 | Ashamed | i hate you windows |
| 21:27.18 | A1win | is there any way to detect when a player is targeting a targeted ability? |
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| 21:32.51 | Aelie | new topaz looks sweet as hell |
| 21:34.45 | Aelie | "can only create one cactoraction per effect" |
| 21:34.47 | Aelie | what is this |
| 21:35.58 | SoulTaker916_ | is there a way to make doodads destroyable |
| 21:36.00 | SoulTaker916_ | ? |
| 21:37.50 | A1win | by making them units |
| 21:37.59 | SoulTaker916_ | thats what i was thinking |
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| 21:38.05 | SoulTaker916_ | but if i make a bridge a unit |
| 21:38.13 | SoulTaker916_ | will the unit be able to transverse it? |
| 21:38.49 | A1win | dunno |
| 21:39.07 | Aelie | its also annoying that the error text is so large that you cant even see the whole error |
| 21:39.34 | A1win | is it going to create too much network traffic if I'm constantly sending mouse move coordinates of 6 players? <.< |
| 21:40.07 | A1win | I tried sending them only when "needed" but then I can't know the last mouse position if the player stops moving his mouse while still holding mouse button down |
| 21:40.38 | SoulTaker916_ | a1win |
| 21:40.42 | SoulTaker916_ | were r the bridges kept? |
| 21:40.45 | SoulTaker916_ | in data |
| 21:40.50 | SoulTaker916_ | *is having touble finding them |
| 21:41.23 | A1win | doodads are actors |
| 21:42.38 | SoulTaker916_ | wow |
| 21:42.42 | SoulTaker916_ | i copies it |
| 21:42.48 | SoulTaker916_ | and switched it to unit |
| 21:42.51 | SoulTaker916_ | and i got a error blowup |
| 21:43.07 | Xaragoth | doodads are not actors |
| 21:43.13 | Xaragoth | doodads are things you put in place |
| 21:43.19 | Xaragoth | they don't act in movies or theaters! |
| 21:43.23 | Xaragoth | trollololol. |
| 21:43.26 | SoulTaker916_ | lol |
| 21:43.27 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 21:43.36 | SoulTaker916_ | thank you so much |
| 21:51.37 | SoulTaker916_ | how do i add a actor to a unit? |
| 21:52.36 | A1win | bah, I'll just fall back to clicking to shoot, tracking the mouse is nearly impossible to do properly |
| 21:52.50 | A1win | SoulTaker916_, you add a unit to an actor, not the other way round |
| 21:53.10 | A1win | better to just copy an existing actor and change the model |
| 21:53.29 | SoulTaker916_ | i cant find the field |
| 21:53.30 | SoulTaker916_ | for it |
| 21:53.33 | A1win | the unit's default actor that is |
| 21:53.36 | SoulTaker916_ | well |
| 21:53.36 | A1win | it's in the actor |
| 21:53.38 | SoulTaker916_ | i did |
| 21:53.40 | SoulTaker916_ | just now |
| 21:53.52 | SoulTaker916_ | but its not showing when i select unit |
| 21:55.30 | SoulTaker916_ | i would use another unit |
| 21:55.35 | SoulTaker916_ | but this unit i want to make |
| 21:55.37 | SoulTaker916_ | is weird |
| 21:55.45 | SoulTaker916_ | it doesnt resemble anything |
| 21:55.47 | SoulTaker916_ | already made |
| 21:56.56 | Aelie | http://i.imgur.com/tB9PT.jpg |
| 21:57.05 | Aelie | ^zap |
| 21:57.07 | Aelie | http://i.imgur.com/0UGp0.jpg |
| 21:57.10 | Aelie | ^frosty |
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| 22:14.37 | Aelie | why does my damage always happen when the missile is fired instead of when it hits |
| 22:18.15 | Vailreth|2 | something is not configured correctly |
| 22:18.33 | Vailreth|2 | i couldnt say what with out more information |
| 22:19.31 | Aelie | :< |
| 22:19.38 | Aelie | what kind of information |
| 22:19.39 | SoulTaker916_ | vail |
| 22:19.45 | SoulTaker916_ | can u help me with somthing? |
| 22:20.03 | Vailreth|2 | i can try |
| 22:20.16 | SoulTaker916_ | i want to make a bridge desctuctable |
| 22:20.32 | SoulTaker916_ | ive been tinkering with it with no sucess |
| 22:21.15 | Vailreth|2 | hmm |
| 22:21.44 | Vailreth|2 | it might be possible |
| 22:21.57 | SoulTaker916_ | well |
| 22:22.03 | SoulTaker916_ | i figure i set the unit |
| 22:22.05 | Vailreth|2 | but your terraning would have to be spot on around the bridge |
| 22:22.09 | SoulTaker916_ | set it as a unit |
| 22:22.11 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 22:22.29 | SoulTaker916_ | ? |
| 22:22.32 | SoulTaker916_ | terraning? |
| 22:22.42 | Vailreth|2 | dinner for me ill be back when i can |
| 22:31.11 | Aelie | ugh |
| 22:31.25 | Aelie | i copied this stuff straight from photon cannon why doesnt it wok |
| 22:31.28 | SoulTaker916_ | anyone know how i return the hight? |
| 22:31.40 | SoulTaker916_ | check the dmg effect |
| 22:31.42 | SoulTaker916_ | thats my guess |
| 22:33.29 | Aelie | its all the same |
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| 22:42.52 | Aelie | fixed it ~ |
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| 22:45.48 | Aelie | http://i.imgur.com/CtsTa.jpg |
| 22:45.49 | Aelie | kaboom |
| 22:45.50 | Aelie | ._. |
| 23:09.31 | A1win | phew, finally got a good attack system in place |
| 23:09.53 | A1win | and it's the FIRST THING I suggested, then got derailed to try some "better" systems which turned out not to work |
| 23:11.43 | A1win | I now have an attack command which can do two things 1) when targeting a point, the attacker shoots towards that point for 1.5 seconds and if any enemy walks in the line of fire, the shot stops at him |
| 23:12.01 | A1win | 2) when targeting a unit, it does the same thing, but follows the unit with the attacks |
| 23:12.37 | A1win | and after that 1.5 sec is over, I need to give a new attack order to start shooting again |
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| 23:20.45 | Vailreth|2 | A1 i nearly have the same thing working with pure data |
| 23:20.51 | SoulTaker916_ | vail |
| 23:20.58 | SoulTaker916_ | how to i rotate a unit |
| 23:21.00 | Vailreth|2 | im here now |
| 23:21.04 | SoulTaker916_ | i mannaged to make a streetlamp |
| 23:21.08 | SoulTaker916_ | from a supply depo |
| 23:21.15 | SoulTaker916_ | but i need to rotate it |
| 23:21.30 | Vailreth|2 | hm |
| 23:21.55 | Vailreth|2 | not sure sorry |
| 23:22.05 | SoulTaker916_ | :/ |
| 23:22.18 | SoulTaker916_ | its important cause the dodad can rotate |
| 23:22.21 | SoulTaker916_ | but not the building |
| 23:22.22 | SoulTaker916_ | :? |
| 23:22.49 | Vailreth|2 | you would have to make new units for every facing you wanted |
| 23:23.02 | SoulTaker916_ | well i can live with that |
| 23:23.09 | SoulTaker916_ | how do i change it for one unit? |
| 23:23.32 | Vailreth|2 | its either in the unit or actor tab and find Unit Facing or somthing to that effect |
| 23:24.24 | SoulTaker916_ | whats a generic explosion? |
| 23:24.31 | SoulTaker916_ | somthing that i can apply to almost anything? |
| 23:26.11 | SoulTaker916_ | SCORE on unit there Editor:flags + "can Rotate: check box |
| 23:26.13 | SoulTaker916_ | w00t |
| 23:28.08 | Vailreth|2 | i dont think it works like that |
| 23:28.15 | SoulTaker916_ | its not working |
| 23:28.15 | SoulTaker916_ | :/ |
| 23:28.34 | Vailreth|2 | like i said a unit for every facing |
| 23:30.11 | SoulTaker916_ | it not even letting edit the category? |
| 23:32.13 | SoulTaker916_ | oh good |
| 23:32.20 | SoulTaker916_ | now it spawning variations |
| 23:34.58 | A1win | is it possible for a timer to drop below 0.00 in any case? |
| 23:35.14 | SoulTaker916_ | sure |
| 23:35.15 | SoulTaker916_ | but |
| 23:35.18 | SoulTaker916_ | it becomes 0 |
| 23:35.19 | A1win | I had a weird bug that might have been caused by remaining time on timer == 0.00 check but I'm not sure... |
| 23:35.30 | SoulTaker916_ | u can have 0 timers |
| 23:35.42 | SoulTaker916_ | its used to trick starcraft into allowing infinate triggers |
| 23:35.57 | A1win | nothing to do with that |
| 23:36.04 | A1win | I mean I had a timer counting downwards |
| 23:36.29 | SoulTaker916_ | they can go -1 seconds |
| 23:36.29 | A1win | then I checked if its time == 0.00, and that check returned false every time |
| 23:36.31 | SoulTaker916_ | however |
| 23:36.38 | A1win | and the timer wasn't paused |
| 23:36.41 | SoulTaker916_ | i dont think it would cause harm ive done it before |
| 23:36.49 | SoulTaker916_ | but it just make it instant |
| 23:36.51 | A1win | I mean I'm not sure if it returned false... |
| 23:36.55 | Aelie | god, missile art makes this game look so much better |
| 23:37.03 | A1win | well now the check is <= 0.00 |
| 23:37.11 | A1win | but I don't know if that was the cause of the bug >_> |
| 23:37.19 | A1win | and I can't reproduce it |
| 23:37.42 | A1win | oh well I guess I'll find out sooner or later |
| 23:40.54 | SoulTaker916_ | VAIL CAIL CAIL |
| 23:40.56 | SoulTaker916_ | VAIL* |
| 23:41.00 | SoulTaker916_ | 07Vailreth|201 |
| 23:41.09 | SoulTaker916_ | unit flat + "turnable" |
| 23:41.10 | SoulTaker916_ | works! |
| 23:41.21 | Vailreth|2 | i |
| 23:41.23 | Vailreth|2 | s |
| 23:41.24 | Vailreth|2 | e |
| 23:41.47 | Vailreth|2 | sigh |
| 23:41.59 | Vailreth|2 | stupid mouse dosent work in this program |
| 23:43.54 | SoulTaker916_ | vail |
| 23:44.00 | SoulTaker916_ | can i offset the rotation |
| 23:44.09 | SoulTaker916_ | so the actor matches the rotation angle i want? |
| 23:45.02 | Vailreth|2 | not sure ive never had to do it sorry |
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