| 00:00.03 | Mexa_ | ._. |
| 00:00.06 | SoulTaker916_ | and im trying to copy transfusion ability |
| 00:00.07 | Bibendus | http://www.robinwood.com/Catalog/Technical/SL-Tuts/SLPages/WhiteHalo.html |
| 00:00.12 | SoulTaker916_ | since its close.. |
| 00:00.17 | Bibendus | soul but u stopped answering me :D |
| 00:01.06 | Bibendus | did you solve your ability cast problem? |
| 00:02.28 | SoulTaker916_ | same thing |
| 00:02.29 | SoulTaker916_ | well |
| 00:02.31 | SoulTaker916_ | yes and no |
| 00:03.40 | Bibendus | what the hell |
| 00:03.46 | Bibendus | photoshop has his tricks |
| 00:03.58 | Bibendus | I just did ctrl click on the layer |
| 00:04.08 | Bibendus | and it did the correct alpha channel I wanted |
| 00:04.11 | Bibendus | with gradient |
| 00:04.12 | Bibendus | lolz |
| 00:09.50 | Bibendus | it works! |
| 00:09.52 | Bibendus | O M G |
| 00:10.14 | Bibendus | love the rotation :P |
| 00:10.16 | Bibendus | thing |
| 00:10.22 | Bibendus | less photoshop work for bibe! |
| 00:11.24 | Mexa_ | :) |
| 00:11.57 | Bibendus | and I can do it with a for cycle! |
| 00:12.48 | ________________ | ew for |
| 00:13.13 | Bibendus | dont u like for? |
| 00:13.35 | ________________ | for is a dirty word in programming |
| 00:14.06 | Bibendus | cmon |
| 00:14.11 | Bibendus | if u have to fill something |
| 00:14.19 | Bibendus | there is no reason to use a while :| |
| 00:15.35 | Mexa_ | The only reason to not use a for in gui, is when the compiler Blizzard made spitted out a bunch of stupid code |
| 00:15.43 | Mexa_ | I'm not sure whether or not it still does |
| 00:17.18 | Bibendus | :O |
| 00:18.07 | Mexa_ | yesyes, it was always writing dumb inefficient for loop code before |
| 00:18.25 | Mexa_ | I need someone to confirm whether or not it still does, though |
| 00:18.30 | Bibendus | i heard about that but |
| 00:18.38 | Bibendus | do u think it still does it |
| 00:18.54 | Bibendus | i m using a lot of fors in my map |
| 00:19.03 | Bibendus | to cycle the double array for tiles |
| 00:19.04 | Mexa_ | That could potentially be an issue |
| 00:19.53 | Bibendus | :| |
| 00:19.55 | Bibendus | mm |
| 00:19.58 | Bibendus | the fade over time |
| 00:19.59 | Bibendus | doesnt work |
| 00:20.11 | Mexa_ | It should |
| 00:20.34 | Mexa_ | But it will adjust accordingly to your dialog |
| 00:21.01 | Mexa_ | Do you have any transparancy on the dialog? |
| 00:22.14 | Mexa_ | Bibendus, http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/map-development/11071-a-warning-to-mapmakers/ |
| 00:22.21 | Mexa_ | That was the thing about for looåps |
| 00:22.41 | Mexa_ | 1 year ago however |
| 00:23.11 | Bibendus | what the |
| 00:23.20 | Bibendus | lol |
| 00:23.30 | Mexa_ | :3 |
| 00:27.11 | Bibendus | k fading works |
| 00:27.12 | Bibendus | i was using |
| 00:27.16 | Bibendus | 0 instead of 100 |
| 00:27.45 | Bibendus | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42948506/Screenshot2011-09-25%2002_42_04.jpg |
| 00:28.09 | Bibendus | works like a charm |
| 00:28.22 | Bibendus | now I can go to sleep happy :D |
| 00:28.29 | Mexa_ | :) |
| 00:28.40 | Mexa_ | And it seems the for loop is not messy anymore |
| 00:28.45 | Bibendus | phew |
| 00:28.56 | Bibendus | dunno how you searched for it |
| 00:29.02 | Bibendus | considering the search on forums is bugged |
| 00:29.03 | Bibendus | but k :D |
| 00:29.06 | Mexa_ | ^^ |
| 00:29.11 | Bibendus | how did u do that? :D |
| 00:29.16 | Mexa_ | for loop bug or something like that |
| 00:29.26 | Mexa_ | And then I find one in the pile |
| 00:29.27 | Bibendus | but the search doesnt work |
| 00:29.28 | Bibendus | :| |
| 00:29.29 | Mexa_ | *found |
| 00:29.30 | Bibendus | oh |
| 00:29.31 | Bibendus | lol |
| 00:30.04 | Mexa_ | hm |
| 00:30.12 | Mexa_ | While loops are still more efficient though |
| 00:30.53 | Mexa_ | http://pastebin.com/2GTFpuiv |
| 00:30.57 | Mexa_ | that's how a for loop is now |
| 00:31.37 | Bibendus | few changes |
| 00:31.45 | Bibendus | just the variables declaration |
| 00:31.58 | Mexa_ | The comparison expressions too |
| 00:32.33 | Mexa_ | for loops are still slower, as you can see but that |
| 00:32.46 | Mexa_ | But not extremely bugged like before:P |
| 00:34.31 | Bibendus | link the while |
| 00:34.32 | Bibendus | I lost it |
| 00:34.33 | Bibendus | oh |
| 00:34.38 | Bibendus | clicking xD |
| 00:34.43 | Mexa_ | :p |
| 00:35.33 | Bibendus | it does something with negative values? |
| 00:35.52 | Aelie | for is a dirty word in programming? |
| 00:35.53 | Bibendus | oh |
| 00:36.03 | Bibendus | nah |
| 00:36.08 | Bibendus | just the editor doing weird things |
| 00:36.09 | Bibendus | I got it |
| 00:36.22 | Bibendus | the for supports backward cycles |
| 00:36.36 | Bibendus | so it support both incremental and decremental for cycles |
| 00:37.04 | Bibendus | k goin to sleep now |
| 00:37.50 | Bibendus | btw I opened a topic |
| 00:37.51 | Bibendus | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/map-development/26257-attach-dialog-to-unit-problem/ |
| 00:37.54 | Bibendus | g night :P |
| 00:41.50 | Mexa_ | obye, you |
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| 01:08.31 | Aelie | so it turns out |
| 01:08.40 | Aelie | there is no style associated with leaderboard text |
| 01:09.52 | JademusSreg | Madness. |
| 01:10.20 | Aelie | didnt stop me tho |
| 01:10.23 | Aelie | did you see my pic |
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| 01:24.14 | Mexa_ | What about the default one |
| 01:24.36 | Mexa_ | There are generic styles used in some areas |
| 01:24.50 | Aelie | lol |
| 01:24.53 | Mexa_ | *ones |
| 01:24.58 | Aelie | i opened u p the fontstyles |
| 01:25.10 | Aelie | i changed every one of the ~850 styles |
| 01:25.16 | Aelie | and it still didnt change |
| 01:25.34 | Aelie | http://i.imgur.com/wz2Wj.jpg |
| 01:25.57 | Mexa_ | so, they all should be the same? |
| 01:26.03 | Aelie | they should all be tiny |
| 01:26.09 | Aelie | and every text in the game was tiny |
| 01:26.13 | Aelie | but the one i wanted to be tiny |
| 01:26.27 | Mexa_ | hm |
| 01:26.32 | Mexa_ | If that's the case now... |
| 01:26.50 | Hati | Aelie: GemTD :o ? |
| 01:26.56 | Aelie | Hati: yeah |
| 01:27.00 | Hati | *yay* |
| 01:27.04 | Aelie | its pretty much done |
| 01:27.11 | Mexa_ | It reminds me of microsoft when they thought it was a good idea to rawcode the background of one of the windows to white. |
| 01:27.12 | Aelie | but Dustin is makign me wait |
| 01:27.37 | Aelie | pokestabs Dustin |
| 01:27.45 | Hati | ~seen Dustin |
| 01:27.52 | purl | dustin is currently on #sc2mapster (3d 6h 4m 36s). Has said a total of 121 messages. Is idling for 1h 54m 37s, last said: 'hell ya, looks nice'. |
| 01:27.52 | Mexa_ | So, instead of using the title for that |
| 01:27.59 | Mexa_ | Why not go and use a column? |
| 01:28.07 | Aelie | huh? |
| 01:28.21 | Mexa_ | Or make one based on a dialog? |
| 01:28.21 | Aelie | i cant change the header or item text size |
| 01:28.37 | Aelie | well] |
| 01:28.43 | Aelie | i eventually worked around it |
| 01:28.49 | Aelie | http://i.imgur.com/LBJjX.jpg |
| 01:29.25 | Aelie | by wrapping every string in my map with <s> |
| 01:29.34 | Mexa_ | oh? |
| 01:29.39 | Mexa_ | So, what does s mean? |
| 01:29.43 | Aelie | style |
| 01:29.51 | Aelie | <s="boarditem"> |
| 01:29.54 | Mexa_ | ah |
| 01:30.04 | Mexa_ | Well then, problem solved |
| 01:30.05 | Mexa_ | :p |
| 01:30.09 | Aelie | then i had to do something about the color |
| 01:30.16 | Aelie | since <s> wipes out any coloring on that cell |
| 01:30.21 | Mexa_ | oh |
| 01:30.39 | Aelie | someone at blizzard is laughing at me right now |
| 01:30.50 | Mexa_ | I can laugh too |
| 01:30.51 | Mexa_ | :> |
| 01:31.04 | Aelie | "lol we made that string different and that person spent an entire day messing with it" |
| 01:31.35 | Mexa_ | Unless you made a silly error like not looking in the right stylesheet or so |
| 01:31.51 | Aelie | i only saw one |
| 01:31.58 | Mexa_ | They come in patches |
| 01:32.01 | Aelie | ... |
| 01:32.03 | Aelie | explain |
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| 01:32.31 | Mexa_ | Your item might look different in another patch |
| 01:32.40 | Mexa_ | Or even exist as an entry |
| 01:33.03 | Aelie | whatever |
| 01:33.06 | Aelie | i dont even care anymore |
| 01:33.11 | Mexa_ | If you only looked in the retail stylesheet, there could be obsolete styles or missing styles |
| 01:33.18 | Aelie | i guess |
| 01:33.32 | Aelie | so where is the latest version? |
| 01:33.55 | Mexa_ | Look in the versions folder, and then the lateest one |
| 01:34.08 | Mexa_ | which is the one with the highest build number |
| 01:34.31 | Mexa_ | the folder with the highest build number as name, that is |
| 01:37.03 | XenoX101 | hey does anyone know how to update images in import manager? |
| 01:37.10 | XenoX101 | I tried replacing them and it didn't work |
| 01:37.35 | Vailreth | if an image is being used it cant be edited in the import manager |
| 01:37.49 | Vailreth | you will need to unlink the file refrences |
| 01:38.01 | XenoX101 | like disable triggers/ |
| 01:38.01 | XenoX101 | ? |
| 01:39.37 | Vailreth | i dont know about triggers but in data you have to unlink the refrences so i imagine you would have to go to the triggers and specify any other image until you switch out the old one for the new one |
| 01:42.55 | Aelie | the latest font list is a complete list? or do i need to check every patch |
| 01:46.48 | Aelie | i just checked every style in the whole latest styles file |
| 01:46.52 | Aelie | and it still didnt work |
| 01:48.00 | Mexa_ | alright |
| 01:48.22 | Mexa_ | Unless those styles reference to other stylesheets, then it seems like a bug then:P |
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| 01:48.54 | Mexa_ | And yeah, if a sheet exists in the latest patch, you shouldn't be required to look at the other versions |
| 01:49.52 | Aelie | http://pastebin.com/ETZyyGUv |
| 01:49.56 | Aelie | this is what i used to test |
| 01:51.12 | Mexa_ | you set the height to 10 on all there, I imagine? |
| 01:51.25 | Aelie | yep |
| 01:51.27 | Aelie | every single line |
| 01:51.30 | Aelie | made everything tiny |
| 01:51.39 | Aelie | except the one text i wanted to be |
| 01:52.05 | Aelie | kind of depressing really |
| 01:52.19 | Mexa_ | well |
| 01:52.38 | Aelie | http://i.imgur.com/p97oa.jpg |
| 01:53.02 | Mexa_ | yeah, you showed that |
| 01:53.10 | Aelie | oh |
| 01:53.13 | Aelie | i just made that now |
| 01:53.14 | Aelie | lol |
| 01:53.22 | Aelie | well |
| 01:53.26 | Mexa_ | You know |
| 01:53.31 | Aelie | i dont feel bad abot spending all day messing with this now |
| 01:53.32 | Aelie | :D |
| 01:53.32 | Mexa_ | You never changed the template styles |
| 01:53.38 | Aelie | ? |
| 01:53.43 | Mexa_ | The board could just as well be using one of those |
| 01:53.48 | Aelie | yes i did |
| 01:54.02 | Mexa_ | In the pastebin you linked, you din't |
| 01:54.11 | Aelie | not in that one |
| 01:54.12 | Aelie | but i did |
| 01:54.26 | Mexa_ | kay then |
| 01:54.40 | Mexa_ | However |
| 01:54.52 | Mexa_ | It says those can be overridden in each locale |
| 01:55.04 | Mexa_ | So, did you took your time to check that:P? |
| 01:55.14 | Aelie | fuckign hell blizzard |
| 01:55.31 | Mexa_ | I don't know, what's your default locale? |
| 01:55.43 | Aelie | enus |
| 01:56.27 | Mexa_ | oh wait |
| 01:56.47 | Aelie | i dont see any style files in the enus patches |
| 01:56.59 | Mexa_ | It only said FontHeader, FontStandard, FontHeaderExtended, and FontStandardExtended could be overridden |
| 01:58.41 | Mexa_ | Oh well, I don't know :> |
| 01:58.48 | Aelie | yeah |
| 01:58.53 | Aelie | ive got a solution alreeady |
| 02:06.21 | Mexa_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PvXCx1qXLg lol, nice impact fail in the new FIFA game. |
| 02:09.17 | Aelie | the one its replying to is good to |
| 02:09.26 | Mexa_ | yeah:P |
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| 02:13.30 | Aelie | hmm |
| 02:13.42 | Aelie | should i have two completely seperate sets of triggers for different modes? |
| 02:16.53 | Mexa__ | if it'sonly two, then it would besufficient with a if else, don't you think? |
| 02:18.13 | Aelie | perhaps |
| 02:18.19 | Aelie | i think its more clear this way though |
| 02:18.36 | Aelie | some of these triggers are gonna be completely different |
| 02:23.58 | XenoX101 | hey does anyone know how to tile images in dialogs? |
| 02:24.02 | XenoX101 | the Tiled: True doesnt seem to work |
| 02:43.56 | Mexa__ | it only works for border types, according to the editor tooltip |
| 02:44.16 | Mexa__ | I recall it worked for more than that in the past, but now somewhat I may remember wrong |
| 02:45.30 | Mexa__ | Or rather, I could have sworn I have cursed on the fact in the past, that the tooltip was lying to me... |
| 02:49.40 | Aelie | hey jade |
| 02:57.42 | Aelie | hey, if i use trigger "kill unit" who counts as having killed it |
| 02:58.45 | XenoX101 | damn |
| 03:10.00 | Mexa__ | no one |
| 03:10.49 | Mexa__ | I guess what you want to find out is if a trigger event "unit dies" can fire after a such thing, and return a player? |
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| 03:48.43 | Aelie | Dustin: if you dont give me missiles soon im gonna do it myself >_> |
| 03:49.03 | Aelie | anyone want to test with me |
| 04:05.40 | pirate | wheeeeeeeeeee |
| 04:10.43 | pirate | I just added 1200 unique items to my map |
| 04:10.55 | pirate | well, it's what i've been doing for the last 4 hours |
| 04:19.24 | Aelie | thats a lot |
| 04:22.14 | pirate | oh I lied |
| 04:22.20 | pirate | 972 |
| 04:22.24 | Aelie | still |
| 04:22.26 | Aelie | thats fast |
| 04:22.35 | Aelie | i was only able to make 30 towers an hour |
| 04:23.08 | pirate | I've essentially recreated diablo 2 gems with random prefixes |
| 04:24.10 | Aelie | funny |
| 04:24.17 | Aelie | i recreated diablo 2 gems as towers :p |
| 04:24.49 | pirate | "Miniscule Crimson Gemini Fragment", "Azure Virgo Shard", "Small Ochre Aquarius Chip" |
| 04:25.25 | Aelie | that is not diablo 2 gems |
| 04:25.32 | Aelie | try chipped emerald |
| 04:25.33 | pirate | well no |
| 04:25.35 | pirate | I made up my own |
| 04:25.45 | pirate | because I have the illusion of orginality |
| 04:56.46 | Aelie | timecat: any suggestions? |
| 05:01.29 | Aelie | timecat: seems like you cant use the built in achievement stuff |
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| 05:24.31 | John | Hey, can someone tell me how to prevent a unit from coming back to their original place? |
| 05:28.34 | Aelie | set his original place on fire |
| 05:28.37 | Aelie | then he wont go back |
| 05:37.42 | Mexa__ | Do anyone remember the cartoon series Noah's Island? |
| 05:37.50 | Aelie | does* |
| 05:37.57 | Mexa__ | husch |
| 05:38.03 | Aelie | hush* |
| 05:38.12 | Mexa__ | slaps Aelie around a bit with a large trout |
| 05:38.12 | Aelie | grabs the large trout and whacks Mexa__ upside the head with it for even thinking about it |
| 05:38.23 | Aelie | take that |
| 05:38.23 | Mexa__ | D: |
| 05:38.25 | Mexa__ | botter |
| 05:38.28 | Aelie | xD |
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| 07:16.02 | Currydevil | Validators are mean. =O |
| 07:16.15 | SoulTaker916_ | lol |
| 07:16.18 | SoulTaker916_ | for real |
| 07:16.24 | Currydevil | at least for setting them to the disable/remove fields on buffs |
| 07:16.30 | SoulTaker916_ | how do u ajust missle speed? |
| 07:16.38 | Currydevil | it's in the mover i believe. |
| 07:16.53 | Currydevil | not sure, don't play with missiles too much |
| 07:17.35 | SoulTaker916_ | i want a redcously slow but powerful missle that chases people around |
| 07:17.54 | Currydevil | look at the mover the missile uses, pretty sure the speed can be adjusted there. |
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| 08:18.47 | Aelie | yeah |
| 08:18.51 | Aelie | i level capped a tower |
| 08:18.53 | Aelie | i am so pro |
| 08:20.13 | Aelie | http://i.imgur.com/g2gXS.jpg |
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| 08:39.51 | Currydevil | interesting. made a teleport ability, and i have to use it twice before my unit will port |
| 08:40.01 | Currydevil | first time he faces the direction, second time he ports. |
| 08:52.23 | ________________ | change your arc and turn off transient |
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| 08:55.22 | Currydevil | the arc is 360 right now, should it not be? |
| 08:56.24 | Currydevil | and transient is off. |
| 08:57.12 | ________________ | no 360 is good |
| 08:57.13 | ________________ | hmm |
| 08:57.51 | Currydevil | ok, actually added arc to the ability itself also, instead of just the effect |
| 08:57.53 | ________________ | u make the ability from scratch or copy from another abil? |
| 08:58.00 | Currydevil | and transient has no affect on function |
| 08:58.05 | Currydevil | made from scratch |
| 08:58.08 | Currydevil | but it works now |
| 08:58.11 | ________________ | nice |
| 08:58.16 | Currydevil | I just didn't have an arc set on the actual ability. |
| 08:58.23 | ________________ | ther u go ;) |
| 08:58.24 | Currydevil | thanks ;) |
| 09:14.14 | Currydevil | Only problem is that was working in a diff map than where I need it to work lol. |
| 09:14.35 | Currydevil | I have the exact same setup, but for some reason it's not working here. |
| 09:23.46 | Currydevil | Sigh, it must be the tauren space marine is a chunky cow. |
| 09:25.08 | ________________ | ^ |
| 09:25.13 | ________________ | he's too fat to tele |
| 09:25.37 | Currydevil | indeed, there is no other solution. |
| 09:25.38 | ________________ | ~fat |
| 09:25.39 | purl | But I'm on a diet! |
| 09:25.47 | Currydevil | it's like the ability is mislinked somehow |
| 09:26.03 | ________________ | recheck it! |
| 09:26.07 | Currydevil | but i've triple checked it all, and made a new ability and button and linked it up right too |
| 09:26.45 | ________________ | wats not working on the new map o.oi |
| 09:27.03 | Currydevil | i can target a spot, the cow says mooo and then nothing. |
| 09:27.56 | ________________ | oo lik the first time |
| 09:28.02 | Currydevil | sort of |
| 09:28.08 | ________________ | its exactly all the same settings as the old abil? |
| 09:28.14 | Currydevil | but at least the marine teleported after i cliked a second time |
| 09:28.18 | Currydevil | yeah |
| 09:28.24 | ________________ | oic |
| 09:31.55 | Currydevil | testing a diff unit. |
| 09:33.02 | Currydevil | The marine works with the exact same ability =O |
| 09:33.07 | Currydevil | I told you it was the cow. |
| 09:37.56 | Currydevil | heh, that sucks. |
| 09:44.50 | ________________ | thats rly weird |
| 09:45.14 | ________________ | the unit shouldnt matter at all o.o |
| 09:45.15 | Currydevil | tested it on the tauren in the other map, it works. |
| 09:45.21 | Currydevil | something is wrong with this one. |
| 09:45.24 | Currydevil | -.- |
| 09:45.26 | ________________ | weird |
| 09:45.52 | Currydevil | well, i'm working on this with a buddy.. I dunno what is changed |
| 09:46.07 | Currydevil | we're not even at the ability cap for the unit. I don't think anyways |
| 09:46.10 | Currydevil | he's got 24 |
| 09:46.18 | Currydevil | but i'm pretty sure the cap is around 30 |
| 09:46.34 | ________________ | wow 24 |
| 09:47.05 | Currydevil | well, they are abilities hidden on the command card. turned on/off via equipped items |
| 09:47.24 | ________________ | oic |
| 09:50.17 | Currydevil | the ability is linked right, because if i try to target closer than the min range, it says can't find teleport location |
| 09:50.28 | Currydevil | he's just not ... going anywhere when the location is valid |
| 09:53.14 | Currydevil | I can't find any field on the unit that would even hint at hindering a teleport. |
| 09:53.19 | Currydevil | this is frustrating lol |
| 09:53.44 | ________________ | maybe he does have 2 many abilities |
| 09:54.43 | Currydevil | the ability erros though if i try to target too close =( |
| 09:54.52 | Currydevil | means something of it is working. |
| 09:55.05 | ________________ | ic ic |
| 09:55.42 | ________________ | maybe 1 of his behaviors are messing it up? o.o |
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| 09:59.51 | Currydevil | could be. |
| 10:00.12 | Currydevil | not sure what though, they are all just plain empty buffs to activate the abilities. except for his vet behavior |
| 10:00.46 | Currydevil | start of the map he doesn't have any on him besides the vet anyways. |
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| 11:02.56 | A1win | oh god I accidentally set one of my array variable size to 0 and then back to 5 and now it's removed all the variables that were in references to that array and replaced them with [0] =p |
| 11:03.24 | A1win | and noticed it too late :P I have a backup but I'd still have to copy/paste a lot of stuff since I've made changes to other things |
| 11:06.12 | onestar | custom script =] |
| 11:06.41 | A1win | pssh! |
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| 11:26.44 | A1win | phew, fixed |
| 11:26.54 | A1win | hopefully I didn't make any mistakes |
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| 13:06.01 | A1win | made a quick demo of my mech RPG map progress so far: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEm7F7T309Q |
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| 13:36.43 | XenoX101 | hey does anyone know how to stretch an image to fullscreen? |
| 13:36.57 | XenoX101 | in dialogs ofc |
| 13:42.45 | A1win | dunno how to do it precisely |
| 13:42.57 | A1win | I added some annotations to the video so it's clearer what's up |
| 13:43.27 | Bibendus|AFK | do you know guys |
| 13:43.43 | Bibendus | if some trigger to detect camera distance property |
| 13:43.51 | Bibendus | has appeared in a patch somehow? |
| 13:49.16 | A1win | doubtfully |
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| 14:50.16 | XenoX101 | why is my image appearing as a giant white square ;_; |
| 14:50.27 | XenoX101 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:50.41 | XenoX101 | I have the right alpha channel and everything |
| 14:51.00 | XenoX101 | o wait |
| 14:51.01 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 14:51.03 | XenoX101 | white32.dds |
| 14:51.05 | XenoX101 | I'm retarded |
| 14:51.16 | XenoX101 | aha |
| 14:51.32 | XenoX101 | that has to be the dumbest thing I've done yet |
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| 19:45.02 | JademusSreg | =D |
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| 20:02.02 | A1win | JademusSreg, did you see my video? D; |
| 20:02.39 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 20:02.52 | A1win | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEm7F7T309Q |
| 20:03.35 | JademusSreg | Coool. |
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| 20:06.02 | JademusSreg | I have only a bit of criticism, regarding abilities. |
| 20:06.14 | Cosmotix | Hi. |
| 20:06.15 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 20:06.46 | A1win | go ahead, I haven't thought about the abilities much in a while |
| 20:07.39 | A1win | might need to redo them completely since the pace of the gameplay changed so drastically |
| 20:07.43 | JademusSreg | A1, allowing the mecha to have Attack is boring; if it's intended to be micro oriented, then all the abilities ought to be actively engaging. Additionally, there's no real need to have move, stop, hold position, and patrol on the command card outside of a melee / multiple unit context. |
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| 20:08.35 | JademusSreg | Since move is a smart action anyway, you should be able to do it even if the button isn't on the command card. |
| 20:08.43 | A1win | yeah true |
| 20:09.01 | A1win | don't want to make it too difficult either, though |
| 20:09.04 | JademusSreg | If not, you can move it to a non-visible command card slot. |
| 20:09.47 | JademusSreg | This isn't a matter of difficulty; it's a good design principle. Being able to passively attack is boring when you control just one unit. |
| 20:10.21 | A1win | but you need to specifically click on the enemy if you don't have passive attack |
| 20:10.25 | A1win | that makes it more difficult D: |
| 20:11.43 | A1win | but maybe if there's some way to compensate for that |
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| 20:12.45 | JademusSreg | Not difficult, more engaging. |
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| 20:13.56 | A1win | more difficult to play the most efficiently ;p |
| 20:15.02 | A1win | mmhmm |
| 20:15.11 | JademusSreg | That's silly; what you want if for people to be actively engaged in the gameplay, not pressing A until the enemies are dead. |
| 20:15.20 | A1win | hehe |
| 20:15.28 | A1win | yeah I didn't say it's good the way it is now :P |
| 20:16.15 | JademusSreg | If I'm playing a map, and I have enough time to type "This is boring.", it's not as actively engaging as it ought to be. =D |
| 20:16.18 | A1win | maybe allow shooting at points |
| 20:16.29 | A1win | instead of at units |
| 20:16.32 | JademusSreg | Yus. |
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| 20:17.07 | A1win | .....which is exactly what you suggested me to do for the survival RPG too and I already did it for that |
| 20:17.17 | JademusSreg | So if you have Supah Generic Gun Weapon, you could target a point, and it would fire on that point and hit enemies in a very small radius for a brief burst. |
| 20:18.41 | A1win | yup |
| 20:19.01 | JademusSreg | Though for extra style points, you'd target a point, and the bullets would just fly out at the angle, until they hit something. |
| 20:19.20 | XenoX101 | that'd be a skill shot ability |
| 20:19.36 | XenoX101 | MOBA's like BLC use them heavily |
| 20:19.36 | JademusSreg | Ratatatatat! Sorry, A1, didn't mean to shoot you, haha. I was trying to shoot that zergling. |
| 20:19.43 | JademusSreg | Yes, Xeno. |
| 20:19.44 | A1win | :P |
| 20:19.57 | A1win | yeah that's how I did it for the survival RPG |
| 20:19.57 | JademusSreg | I advocate skill shots for every single unit, micro oriented map. |
| 20:20.13 | XenoX101 | ya they raise the bar of the game |
| 20:20.40 | XenoX101 | but making it too hard can be bad too |
| 20:20.52 | JademusSreg | Passive damage delaing should be the exception in those cases, not the rule. |
| 20:20.52 | XenoX101 | you neglect the casual gamers |
| 20:21.10 | JademusSreg | It's PvE; I doubt it will be even a fraction as challenging as MageCraft. |
| 20:21.24 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 20:21.30 | JademusSreg | Fuck business strategies, Xeno; make something enjoyable to play. =D |
| 20:21.37 | XenoX101 | well |
| 20:21.44 | XenoX101 | when you're at the mercy of the popularity system |
| 20:21.48 | A1win | I'll also have different levels of missions, if it's too hard, you can just play lower level missions and progress slower :P |
| 20:21.49 | JademusSreg | I'm not. |
| 20:22.06 | XenoX101 | mm ya well if you are happy playing with your friends |
| 20:22.08 | XenoX101 | that works |
| 20:22.13 | XenoX101 | or a select base |
| 20:22.35 | JademusSreg | I make whatever I want to play. And if people like it, that's cool. Seems to have worked for Photon Cycles. =D |
| 20:22.35 | A1win | and yeah I'm mostly focusing making this fun to play for myself and my friends, but it won't hurt to get some popularity either :P |
| 20:22.54 | XenoX101 | yeah I agree ideologically |
| 20:22.58 | XenoX101 | and I do the same |
| 20:23.08 | XenoX101 | but with the popularity system some people |
| 20:23.13 | XenoX101 | want to get their map played and so |
| 20:23.20 | XenoX101 | it becomes a bit of a juggling act |
| 20:23.20 | A1win | now let's hope talking on IRC didn't distract me too much from implementing my dynamic mission entry point system... |
| 20:23.39 | A1win | mmh |
| 20:23.44 | XenoX101 | and you have to think if you're putting in |
| 20:23.44 | JademusSreg | If this were a business, I might be concerned about such strategies. But it's not, so I'm not. |
| 20:23.46 | A1win | appears it did |
| 20:23.47 | XenoX101 | so many hours to make something |
| 20:24.00 | XenoX101 | then having nobody play it |
| 20:24.02 | XenoX101 | or only your friends |
| 20:24.17 | XenoX101 | can make the whole endeavour seem a bit pointless |
| 20:24.18 | JademusSreg | And if it were to become one, I'd do the same thing, only I'd add extra content for people who would pay monies to grind for cosmetic hats. |
| 20:24.46 | XenoX101 | mm I dont feel you can trick them so easily |
| 20:24.57 | XenoX101 | stuff them with donuts so they won't complain about the game |
| 20:25.53 | JademusSreg | It's a question of considerations of scale. The endeavor is never pointless to me, because I define my goals within the context of good design and good gameplay. Popularity simply isn't a factor in my decisions. |
| 20:26.00 | XenoX101 | its paradoxical in that they don't take gaming as seriously but at the same time will beat you to death if the game is too casual/simple |
| 20:26.13 | XenoX101 | or if its gimmicky |
| 20:26.25 | A1win | everyone wants to feel special by being better at the game than others |
| 20:26.38 | JademusSreg | Yes, and I love PvP for that. |
| 20:26.39 | JademusSreg | <3 |
| 20:26.40 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 20:26.44 | A1win | yay now this seems to work... |
| 20:26.50 | A1win | just need a multiplayer test |
| 20:26.56 | JademusSreg | I'll help test. |
| 20:27.08 | A1win | you're not in EU? :[ |
| 20:27.20 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 20:27.23 | XenoX101 | I'm the same JademusSreg, I'm just starting to realise that I still need to consider the people playing it |
| 20:27.48 | XenoX101 | cause if I create something that I'm perfectly satisfied with but others aren't |
| 20:27.58 | XenoX101 | well, what point is it that I'm satisfied |
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| 20:29.41 | XenoX101 | sort of a moral of life almost |
| 20:30.06 | A1win | you're not selfish enough |
| 20:30.23 | A1win | shame on you! |
| 20:30.38 | XenoX101 | well its almost independent of selfishness |
| 20:30.46 | XenoX101 | as in, whether you like it or not |
| 20:31.06 | XenoX101 | there won't be any point to it if you're the only one that benefits |
| 20:31.15 | XenoX101 | cause you can't benefit that much frm it really |
| 20:31.25 | A1win | sure you can D: |
| 20:31.35 | XenoX101 | well you can play it |
| 20:31.39 | XenoX101 | but its like |
| 20:31.44 | XenoX101 | going to a club |
| 20:31.45 | A1win | I spent years working on a half-life project that I never released to anyone but a few of my friends |
| 20:31.46 | XenoX101 | where nobody is there |
| 20:31.50 | A1win | we had so much fun playing it :x |
| 20:31.50 | XenoX101 | and drinking on your own |
| 20:31.53 | Jademus | So, it could be said I consider the people playing it. =D |
| 20:32.12 | XenoX101 | yeah well if you can get some good fun with your friends |
| 20:32.19 | XenoX101 | but even then you see |
| 20:32.25 | XenoX101 | its still with others |
| 20:32.38 | XenoX101 | and if you made it purely, purely for yourself maybe it wouldn't have been so fun |
| 20:33.31 | XenoX101 | like we're necessarily dependant on others, because doing things only for ourselves doesn't get us anywhere |
| 20:33.35 | A1win | yeah, I guess what you mean is the same thing on a larger scale... that making it for myself means that it's also fun for those who I play it with |
| 20:33.51 | A1win | but it's still me playing it, not some strangers playing it with themselves |
| 20:34.32 | XenoX101 | yeah I guess I'm saying that |
| 20:34.38 | XenoX101 | generally you need to make some compromise |
| 20:34.45 | A1win | and the only reason I make it fun for the others is that they'd keep playing it with me =P |
| 20:34.51 | XenoX101 | to have something that others can engage you with |
| 20:35.05 | XenoX101 | I can think of a good example |
| 20:35.06 | XenoX101 | music |
| 20:35.15 | XenoX101 | if you have a party you cant listen to exactly what you want |
| 20:35.30 | XenoX101 | unless its coincidentally the same as everyone else's taste |
| 20:35.49 | XenoX101 | and thats how custom maps, and really anything in life I think works |
| 20:35.57 | XenoX101 | you can have your own specific taste about things |
| 20:36.04 | XenoX101 | but ultimately you need to diverge a bit |
| 20:36.10 | XenoX101 | maybe not necessarily that much |
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| 20:36.43 | XenoX101 | but yeah, in the most long-winded fashion possible thats what I mean by not putting skill-shot for every single ability |
| 20:36.46 | XenoX101 | ;p |
| 20:37.12 | XenoX101 | idealism meeets pragmatism I guess |
| 20:37.18 | XenoX101 | meets* |
| 20:37.33 | A1win | it's not that much of a skill shot if the enemy isn't moving fast, though |
| 20:37.45 | XenoX101 | well yeah thats where the adaptation comes |
| 20:37.51 | XenoX101 | making it playable |
| 20:38.04 | XenoX101 | not so difficult that its confined to the top most players |
| 20:38.17 | XenoX101 | thats why broodwar was competitively so unsuccesful in the west |
| 20:38.33 | XenoX101 | to play the game at any sort of level |
| 20:38.52 | XenoX101 | you needed insanely good mechanics |
| 20:38.57 | JademusSreg | Not every single ability, of course; there is a place for skill shot, auto targets, passives, untargeted, and such. |
| 20:39.34 | XenoX101 | yeah you get what I mean though, difficulty wise |
| 20:39.39 | XenoX101 | having it too difficult for the casual gamer |
| 20:39.48 | XenoX101 | with excessive skill shots etc. |
| 20:40.01 | XenoX101 | maybe casual isn't the right word |
| 20:40.02 | XenoX101 | um |
| 20:40.07 | XenoX101 | typical |
| 20:43.39 | JademusSreg | I think that, during the active portions of gameplay sequences, the player should always have something to do. If you have a lull where all of your actions are on cooldown and you're not under fire during what is supposed to be an active gameplay sequence, there's something wrong with your design. |
| 20:45.42 | A1win | yup |
| 20:46.33 | A1win | can just make the burst time long enough to give the player time to aim the next attack |
| 20:46.42 | A1win | so the unit doesn't stand doing nothing while he's doing that |
| 20:47.05 | JademusSreg | Goot. |
| 20:48.25 | Aelie | zzzz |
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| 20:55.02 | Aelie | http://ircz.de/p/11050448 |
| 21:00.46 | Cosmotix | aaw, them kitty plank |
| 21:00.51 | Cosmotix | *rank |
| 21:00.54 | Cosmotix | *prank |
| 21:01.41 | Aelie | http://ircz.de/p/7b22ed93127fe291d65b1047bf6b448ff82724ed |
| 21:06.35 | A1win | yay, joining players to a mission while it's already running works now O: |
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| 21:13.46 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 21:13.55 | SoulTaker916_ | jade |
| 21:14.01 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 21:14.02 | SoulTaker916_ | how did we make the cannon move again? |
| 21:14.03 | SoulTaker916_ | i forgot |
| 21:14.06 | SoulTaker916_ | what did i do? |
| 21:14.55 | JademusSreg | You need acceleration, move speed, no footprint, the move ability, and a turn rate. |
| 21:15.31 | SoulTaker916_ | thats right i forgot acceleration |
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| 21:17.55 | Aelie | http://ircz.de/p/1108215 |
| 21:17.56 | Cosmotic | Hmm, |
| 21:19.36 | SoulTaker916_ | jade im looking at this |
| 21:19.47 | SoulTaker916_ | i want a missle turret weapon to use different ammo |
| 21:20.01 | SoulTaker916_ | missle turrent 2 weapons different ammo |
| 21:20.05 | SoulTaker916_ | and im looking at this |
| 21:20.16 | SoulTaker916_ | and i cant figureout why both ammo is non existant |
| 21:20.23 | SoulTaker916_ | since one of them is using regular missles |
| 21:25.17 | JademusSreg | Two different weapons, two different kinds of ammo. So you've got them using charges or what? |
| 21:29.02 | SoulTaker916_ | atm no |
| 21:29.07 | SoulTaker916_ | but im atually figuring it out |
| 21:29.12 | SoulTaker916_ | the speed is now my issue |
| 21:29.17 | SoulTaker916_ | one needs to be painfuly slow |
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| 21:57.26 | Cosmotic | perhaps I should get up from bed |
| 21:57.30 | Cosmotic | It's midnight |
| 21:57.31 | Cosmotic | D: |
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| 21:59.57 | Aelie | JademusSreg: why cant i seem to change these loading screen tips |
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| 22:02.10 | SoulTaker916_ | JADE!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:02.19 | SoulTaker916_ | JademusSreg |
| 22:02.21 | SoulTaker916_ | :( |
| 22:03.39 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 22:03.52 | SoulTaker916_ | my turret is launching a very slow missle |
| 22:03.54 | SoulTaker916_ | the issue is |
| 22:03.59 | SoulTaker916_ | that when the target is dead |
| 22:04.03 | SoulTaker916_ | the missles r waisted |
| 22:04.12 | JademusSreg | Oh well? |
| 22:04.12 | SoulTaker916_ | and being expsive missiles |
| 22:04.15 | SoulTaker916_ | we cant have that |
| 22:04.17 | SoulTaker916_ | :P |
| 22:04.39 | SoulTaker916_ | how do i make the missle retarget nearby enemies? |
| 22:04.53 | JademusSreg | Don't shoot them if you don't want to waste them. |
| 22:05.07 | SoulTaker916_ | ouchies, someone is in a bad mood |
| 22:05.09 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 22:05.12 | JademusSreg | Make the cooldown exceed flight time to ensure this. |
| 22:05.21 | JademusSreg | Naw, not at all. |
| 22:05.28 | Vailreth|2 | i was thinking on that SoulTaker |
| 22:05.39 | Vailreth|2 | and i had an idea |
| 22:05.42 | SoulTaker916_ | maybe if i switch the unit |
| 22:05.45 | JademusSreg | Or deduct the ammo from the impact effect. |
| 22:05.45 | SoulTaker916_ | to like a scourge? |
| 22:06.18 | SoulTaker916_ | is there anyway to change the missles target? |
| 22:06.32 | SoulTaker916_ | like validate if the target is dead |
| 22:06.40 | SoulTaker916_ | and search area for new target? |
| 22:06.43 | SoulTaker916_ | and continue? |
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| 22:07.06 | Vailreth|2 | what about giving the missle a behavior that has a search for a periodic effect and the seach uses the fire missile effect on the existing missile at a new target |
| 22:07.08 | Vailreth|2 | ? |
| 22:07.28 | SoulTaker916_ | i guess it would work |
| 22:07.33 | SoulTaker916_ | im not sure about these thigns |
| 22:07.37 | SoulTaker916_ | im still learning |
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| 22:08.02 | SoulTaker916_ | basicaly its a missle turret that auto lanches a expesive slow moving missle |
| 22:08.13 | SoulTaker916_ | but im noticing that the target is dieing |
| 22:08.15 | Vailreth|2 | like you can use the make and remove precursor effects to target ground and such |
| 22:08.19 | SoulTaker916_ | and there r still missles out there |
| 22:08.51 | SoulTaker916_ | im not sure how or if thats what i want |
| 22:08.52 | SoulTaker916_ | :P |
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| 22:10.53 | SoulTaker916_ | 07Vailreth01 |
| 22:10.57 | SoulTaker916_ | would that work? |
| 22:12.43 | Cosmotix | nomnom tea¨ |
| 22:14.28 | SoulTaker916_ | well |
| 22:14.34 | SoulTaker916_ | do u know cosmotix? |
| 22:14.46 | Cosmotix | nope |
| 22:17.45 | Vailreth|2 | i think what i proposed will work i am testing it now |
| 22:18.03 | SoulTaker916_ | vail |
| 22:18.05 | SoulTaker916_ | i just found |
| 22:18.07 | SoulTaker916_ | somthing |
| 22:18.13 | SoulTaker916_ | thiers a field in launch missle |
| 22:18.15 | SoulTaker916_ | that says |
| 22:18.17 | SoulTaker916_ | retarget |
| 22:18.27 | SoulTaker916_ | would that work if i put a range and filter? |
| 22:21.08 | Vailreth|2 | ive never gotten retarget to work my sefl but you can try |
| 22:21.25 | SoulTaker916_ | is it even worth it to try? |
| 22:22.27 | Aelie | hey JademusSreg |
| 22:22.33 | Aelie | are there dialog progress bars |
| 22:22.42 | Cosmotix | yes |
| 22:22.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster Cosmotic (~Cosmotix@80.78.216.142) |
| 22:23.07 | Cosmotix | wups... |
| 22:23.28 | Cosmotix | My names isn't JademusSreg, but I spared him time to aswer:P |
| 22:23.34 | Cosmotix | *answer |
| 22:23.44 | Aelie | ah |
| 22:23.57 | Aelie | why is there special creates for certain types... |
| 22:24.01 | JademusSreg | Thanks. |
| 22:24.03 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 22:24.10 | Cosmotix | They're just gui wrappers |
| 22:24.29 | Vailreth|2 | its up to you, if you get Retarget working you can show us who dont know how to too do the same |
| 22:25.12 | Cosmotix | Aelie, I guess they wanted to make some code for separate, as it eases the process of understanding what data you need to set for different types |
| 22:25.38 | Cosmotix | Done in galaxy, there's no difference of a dialog item more than its type |
| 22:25.48 | Cosmotix | And behaviour for the specific type, obviously |
| 22:26.48 | Aelie | why not make one for each type then :< |
| 22:27.51 | JademusSreg | A fellow galaxy coder. |
| 22:31.51 | Cosmotix | Aelie, I somewhat believe they chose between: "Not cluttering the API with various of types, and inheritance" and "They are somewhat similar, after all" |
| 22:32.43 | Cosmotix | But yeah |
| 22:32.57 | JademusSreg | The natives.galaxy file mentions an intent not to clutter the namespace or some such. |
| 22:33.22 | JademusSreg | So we end up with a bunch of int value object references. |
| 22:33.32 | Cosmotix | Would have been better if they encapsulated everything in classes anyway ;o |
| 22:33.38 | JademusSreg | Yus. |
| 22:33.53 | Cosmotix | And/or separate namespaces for the different types |
| 22:33.59 | JademusSreg | Sounds like a Java or C# programmer? =D |
| 22:34.22 | Cosmotix | C#/Java/C++ |
| 22:34.28 | Mexa | Sorry Jade |
| 22:34.30 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 22:34.31 | Mexa | :) |
| 22:35.06 | JademusSreg | You and your alt handles. =D |
| 22:35.13 | Mexa | ^^ |
| 22:35.23 | Mexa | It only lasted about an hour |
| 22:35.25 | Mexa | I win |
| 22:35.37 | JademusSreg | Win what? |
| 22:35.43 | Mexa | Nothing:P |
| 22:36.02 | JademusSreg | I didn't realize this was a masquerade. |
| 22:36.11 | JademusSreg | Had I known that, I would have dressed up. |
| 22:36.15 | Mexa | haha |
| 22:36.32 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ingela (~Ingela@90-230-170-118-no35.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 22:37.09 | Mexa | More in the terms: I keep myself incognito at times, but whenever people starts asking questions they already know by another me, I might as well just drop the charade:P |
| 22:37.37 | Mexa | Perhaps in another alternative universe... |
| 22:38.49 | JademusSreg | is rewriting some code to be handle based. |
| 22:39.15 | Mexa | neat |
| 22:39.43 | JademusSreg | First person I banned just deleted the bank, so I figure I ought to implement it immediately. |
| 22:39.49 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 22:40.06 | Aelie | do you have his code? |
| 22:40.16 | JademusSreg | Nope. Thus the update. |
| 22:41.04 | JademusSreg | Replacing the ban command with a command to get the handle, so I can hardcode their bans into the map. |
| 22:41.24 | Aelie | sounds pretty crappy to me ;) |
| 22:41.32 | Aelie | besides how can you cheat at photon cycles |
| 22:41.38 | JademusSreg | Cheat? |
| 22:41.43 | Aelie | yeah |
| 22:41.55 | Aelie | isnt that why people get banned? |
| 22:42.14 | JademusSreg | I banned someone for stupidly reporting me in my own map. =\ |
| 22:42.58 | Aelie | huh |
| 22:43.07 | Mexa | trolling might be a reason to ban someone |
| 22:43.15 | Aelie | sounds lke a bad reason to ban to me |
| 22:43.33 | Mexa | As well as staying in the lobby idling without starting the game, and then emoquit once it starts |
| 22:43.54 | Aelie | i troll sometimes |
| 22:43.56 | Aelie | :p |
| 22:44.08 | JademusSreg | I like good, creative trolling. |
| 22:44.16 | Aelie | :p |
| 22:44.30 | JademusSreg | Reporting me is idiotic. |
| 22:44.44 | Aelie | reporting you to who |
| 22:45.04 | JademusSreg | To Blizzah. For cheating, haha. |
| 22:45.16 | Aelie | sounds petty and vengeful |
| 22:45.48 | Mexa | Because everyone knows the creator put adminspecific cheats and whatever, so that he can own all sheeps... |
| 22:45.49 | Mexa | no |
| 22:46.31 | JademusSreg | The great thing about having mod powers is not putting up with idiots. Like I said, I don't get bothered by people hurling insults, especially if they are creative and entertaining. |
| 22:48.09 | SoulTaker916_ | the goal when i make my games |
| 22:48.12 | SoulTaker916_ | when designing them |
| 22:48.21 | SoulTaker916_ | design the concept |
| 22:48.28 | SoulTaker916_ | is making it so people get along |
| 22:48.39 | SoulTaker916_ | and r forced to recongize they must work togeather |
| 22:48.52 | SoulTaker916_ | i almost never have trolling in my games |
| 22:48.52 | SoulTaker916_ | :P |
| 22:52.56 | tordy | i never use cheats for powers of bad |
| 22:53.24 | tordy | now that i think about it, the bnet handle thing can't be faked right? |
| 22:53.40 | tordy | Could just use that to be admin now |
| 22:53.42 | tordy | now hassle |
| 22:53.51 | tordy | no* |
| 22:53.52 | Aelie | yeah |
| 22:53.59 | Aelie | now you cna have real admin commmands |
| 22:54.35 | tordy | you use it on your map right? |
| 22:54.39 | tordy | the bnet handle? |
| 22:54.44 | tordy | do you check every player? |
| 22:55.00 | tordy | i mean do you use it for saved data? |
| 22:55.08 | tordy | any reports of it not working? |
| 22:55.42 | tordy | ezpz |
| 22:59.44 | JademusSreg | I certainly would never cheat in my own map. I include only a few commands, nothing all that abusable. |
| 22:59.58 | JademusSreg | Not like I can modify player speed or scores at will. |
| 23:00.00 | JademusSreg | HAha |
| 23:00.05 | JademusSreg | That would be terrible. |
| 23:00.18 | tordy | but we're save now anyway right |
| 23:00.22 | tordy | *safe |
| 23:01.21 | tordy | the thing can't be faked, and even if it can the guy's going through hacking territory which means he could do anything he wants anyway |
| 23:01.32 | tordy | pop |
| 23:01.38 | tordy | but just in case |
| 23:01.42 | tordy | i wont rely 100% on it |
| 23:05.02 | SoulTaker916_ | ok |
| 23:05.03 | SoulTaker916_ | well |
| 23:05.06 | SoulTaker916_ | im back at it |
| 23:05.08 | Aelie | JademusSreg: what should i do if the vote is tied, for game mode |
| 23:05.14 | SoulTaker916_ | trying to make these missiles work.. |
| 23:07.05 | JademusSreg | I resolve ties randomly. |
| 23:07.16 | Aelie | thats what im thinking |
| 23:07.30 | JademusSreg | It's just the most time efficient approach. |
| 23:07.37 | SoulTaker916_ | if ur using a score system |
| 23:07.47 | SoulTaker916_ | u can make the best person |
| 23:07.57 | SoulTaker916_ | or most eperience'd vote count for 2 |
| 23:08.07 | SoulTaker916_ | to break the tie |
| 23:08.49 | Aelie | f that |
| 23:09.10 | SoulTaker916_ | i do that or i put in my vote |
| 23:09.18 | SoulTaker916_ | so what i would usaly pick |
| 23:11.04 | SoulTaker916_ | jade will u help me with my missiles PLEASE! |
| 23:11.05 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 23:11.12 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 23:11.14 | SoulTaker916_ | me love u long time |
| 23:11.14 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 23:11.25 | SoulTaker916_ | im trying to make my missiles switch target |
| 23:11.28 | SoulTaker916_ | midflight |
| 23:12.38 | JademusSreg | Alright. It will need a periodic behavior with a search area effect. |
| 23:12.57 | SoulTaker916_ | 1 second |
| 23:13.01 | SoulTaker916_ | ill attempt to make that |
| 23:13.08 | SoulTaker916_ | can i pm you the steps im taking |
| 23:13.12 | SoulTaker916_ | so u can insure quality? |
| 23:13.20 | JademusSreg | I'm kinda busy. |
| 23:13.34 | SoulTaker916_ | well u dont have to comment just skim it? |
| 23:13.39 | SoulTaker916_ | or r u too busy for that? |
| 23:13.58 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 23:14.14 | JademusSreg | I've got a few things going on over here. |
| 23:15.05 | SoulTaker916_ | please say theres a sexy girl under ur desk, cause the rest is BS |
| 23:15.06 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 23:15.55 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 23:16.08 | SoulTaker916_ | my gf did that to me once |
| 23:16.12 | SoulTaker916_ | i wasnt expecting it |
| 23:16.14 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 23:16.24 | SoulTaker916_ | while i was playing sc2 none the less |
| 23:16.24 | SoulTaker916_ | XD |
| 23:16.33 | SoulTaker916_ | lost that melee match good... |
| 23:16.42 | Aelie | why cant i select my button under "dialog item used" |
| 23:16.53 | SoulTaker916_ | u need to attach |
| 23:16.54 | SoulTaker916_ | the button |
| 23:16.57 | SoulTaker916_ | to a variable |
| 23:17.04 | SoulTaker916_ | then the vartiable to the confition |
| 23:17.07 | Aelie | i did that |
| 23:17.08 | SoulTaker916_ | under the event |
| 23:17.21 | SoulTaker916_ | the event is dialog item used |
| 23:17.27 | SoulTaker916_ | the condition for the trigger is |
| 23:17.34 | SoulTaker916_ | if dialog button == variable |
| 23:17.38 | SoulTaker916_ | then it will work |
| 23:17.46 | SoulTaker916_ | 01"dialog item used"01 is very generic |
| 23:18.05 | Aelie | it doesnt show anything under varible |
| 23:18.34 | SoulTaker916_ | do dialog item uses |
| 23:18.38 | SoulTaker916_ | as the first variable |
| 23:18.42 | SoulTaker916_ | the send is your variable |
| 23:18.46 | SoulTaker916_ | x=y |
| 23:19.01 | SoulTaker916_ | here |
| 23:19.03 | SoulTaker916_ | ill show u |
| 23:19.28 | SoulTaker916_ | Events Dialog - Any Dialog Item is used by Player Any Player with event type Clicked Local Variables anti-spam = 0 <Integer> price = 8000 <Integer> Conditions (Used dialog item) == dialog data[2] |
| 23:19.48 | SoulTaker916_ | see? |
| 23:20.02 | SoulTaker916_ | 07JademusSreg01 |
| 23:20.09 | SoulTaker916_ | which kind of behavior do i use? |
| 23:20.28 | Aelie | http://i.imgur.com/ymjSc.png |
| 23:20.47 | Aelie | why cant i change "any dialog item" to something else |
| 23:20.54 | SoulTaker916_ | cause ur using EVENT |
| 23:21.01 | SoulTaker916_ | ur dont do conditions up there |
| 23:21.06 | SoulTaker916_ | or try not to* |
| 23:21.14 | SoulTaker916_ | go down to conditions and put |
| 23:21.18 | SoulTaker916_ | 01 Conditions (Used dialog item) == dialog data[2]01 |
| 23:21.28 | Aelie | why does it even let me change that field then |
| 23:21.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster Saeris (~Saeris@76.91.57.78) |
| 23:22.00 | SoulTaker916_ | to fool people? it wouldnt be the first time blizzard does that in the map editor |
| 23:22.22 | Aelie | boo |
| 23:22.42 | SoulTaker916_ | well looking at it |
| 23:22.46 | SoulTaker916_ | ive never trued it |
| 23:22.48 | SoulTaker916_ | if u go back |
| 23:22.52 | SoulTaker916_ | and do function |
| 23:23.00 | SoulTaker916_ | and select relative dialog item |
| 23:23.05 | SoulTaker916_ | u may be ablle to then select |
| 23:23.07 | SoulTaker916_ | which item |
| 23:23.08 | SoulTaker916_ | but |
| 23:23.11 | SoulTaker916_ | i never tried it |
| 23:23.18 | SoulTaker916_ | i know the way i said works |
| 23:23.23 | Vailreth|2 | well fudge i have attack ground working |
| 23:23.36 | SoulTaker916_ | vail!!!!!!!! |
| 23:23.38 | Vailreth|2 | but i cant get the missile to retarget |
| 23:23.46 | SoulTaker916_ | so retarget doesnt work like u said |
| 23:23.51 | SoulTaker916_ | or atleast not for this noob |
| 23:24.03 | SoulTaker916_ | so i was going to do somthing else |
| 23:24.14 | SoulTaker916_ | jade just said persistent behavior with search effect |
| 23:24.20 | SoulTaker916_ | but what behavior type do i make? |
| 23:24.24 | Vailreth|2 | i know i have succesufully applied behaviors to missiles that relaunch them |
| 23:24.50 | SoulTaker916_ | oh ur trying to do it also? |
| 23:24.51 | Vailreth|2 | buff should work |
| 23:24.59 | SoulTaker916_ | cause it would be very nice |
| 23:25.01 | SoulTaker916_ | cause i notice |
| 23:25.04 | SoulTaker916_ | alot of units |
| 23:25.07 | SoulTaker916_ | with weapon units |
| 23:25.15 | SoulTaker916_ | waste a unit or 2 |
| 23:25.24 | SoulTaker916_ | and my game its a huge advtanage |
| 23:25.30 | SoulTaker916_ | for that one extra shot |
| 23:31.53 | Mexa | hm |
| 23:35.09 | Aelie | :< |
| 23:35.17 | Aelie | why does this progress bar not work |
| 23:35.24 | Aelie | hm |
| 23:35.52 | Aelie | nm |
| 23:45.29 | JademusSreg | I said periodic. |
| 23:45.32 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 23:51.15 | Vailreth|2 | what about periodics? |
| 23:52.21 | Vailreth|2 | well i almost have it working i have the missle retargeting |
| 23:55.16 | JademusSreg | [19:24:17] <SoulTaker916_> jade just said persistent behavior with search effect |
| 23:55.26 | JademusSreg | I said periodic. |
| 23:55.58 | Vailreth|2 | ah |
| 23:57.39 | Aelie | JademusSreg: do you know why i cant change the help messages on the loading screen |
| 23:58.59 | JademusSreg | What have you tried so far? |
| 23:59.29 | Aelie | i want the melee loading bars with either no or customized help tips |
