IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20110924

`00:00.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Aelie - For buffs that increase damage, they will increase the damage of ALL types of damage they do, provided you show that the source is the unit with the buff.`
`00:00.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So if the effect chain is being created externally from the unit, the game won't know the unit made it so the buff won't apply`
`00:00.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`if the chain stems directly from the unit it should apply the bonus damage properly.`
`00:01.54`	`Aelie`	`how can i tell what the source of the buff is`
`00:02.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Follow the effect chain`
`00:02.24`	`ProzaicMuze`	`As long as you create the entire ability in the DE you should be fine`
`00:02.37`	`Aelie`	`i do`
`00:02.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`This is because it's usually a linear chain like:`
`00:02.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Ability > Effect > Effect > Damage`
`00:03.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`A few places it gets tricky is with hybrid abilities and created units`
`00:03.15`	`Aelie`	`for mine its more like behavior -> effect -> effect -> behavior -> damage`
`00:03.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you use the Effect - Create Unit you need to set Spawn Owner correctly`
`00:03.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Caster is usually best`
`00:03.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Then anything that Created unit will also count as being made by the Caster and damage will scale correctly (assuming this is what you want)`
`00:04.04`	`Aelie`	`nope`
`00:04.08`	`Aelie`	`i dont use that`
`00:04.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you DON'T want this then you change owner to something else`
`00:04.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Mmk`
`00:04.26`	`Aelie`	`i have a behavior that has a period effect search area`
`00:04.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`For Hybrids, if you ever have triggers that add effects whenever abiltiies are made, this is the other time effect ownership gets fuzzy`
`00:04.34`	`Aelie`	`which finds every target in 5 range`
`00:04.43`	`Aelie`	`and applies a behavior on them which ticks for damage`
`00:04.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`mmk`
`00:05.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`That should be fine then.`
`00:05.17`	`Agouti`	`what happened to the forums`
`00:05.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Just make sure the damage types match`
`00:05.24`	`Agouti`	`I have a new avatar and only 1 post`
`00:05.46`	`Aelie`	`it wasnt working`
`00:05.50`	`Aelie`	`it still only did 10 damage`
`00:06.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Which field are you using to increase damage?`
`00:07.57`	`ekcolnovkol`	`proziac`
`00:08.04`	`ekcolnovkol`	`what's the difference between source and caster :u`
`00:08.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`echo`
`00:08.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Caster is the unit that cast the spell`
`00:08.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`source is the unit that the effect came from`
`00:08.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you have Caster that summons a unit and that unit can cast spells`
`00:08.47`	`Aelie`	`ok`
`00:08.57`	`Aelie`	`it works if i change it from a behavior causing the damage`
`00:09.15`	`Aelie`	`to a weapon causing the damage`
`00:09.41`	`ekcolnovkol`	`so if you execute a search area on target unit location and set the damage source to source unit, the target unit will damage the area around it`
`00:09.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes`
`00:10.02`	`ekcolnovkol`	`:u`
`00:10.10`	`ekcolnovkol`	`what about origin?`
`00:10.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`one sec, I need to open up a test map really quick, I hashed these all out`
`00:10.57`	`ekcolnovkol`	`also`
`00:11.04`	`ekcolnovkol`	`i kinda wish they didn't tamper with apply force :<`
`00:11.11`	`UloseTheGame`	`hey eckol`
`00:11.13`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Aelie- is the buff doing negative life regeneration or actual damage effects?`
`00:11.16`	`ekcolnovkol`	`?`
`00:11.20`	`Aelie`	`actual damage effect`
`00:11.22`	`ekcolnovkol`	`thanks for spelling my name wrong :<`
`00:11.31`	`UloseTheGame`	`just saying hi ekcol ^_^`
`00:11.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You spelled my name wrong ;P`
`00:11.37`	`Aelie`	`i created a weapon and set its effect to the search area`
`00:11.50`	`ekcolnovkol`	`you don't say`
`00:11.54`	`UloseTheGame`	`it looks like hero attack's existence at the top of the pop list was rather shortlived`
`00:12.04`	`UloseTheGame`	`but your map, as always, lives forever :D`
`00:12.11`	`ekcolnovkol`	`isn't it still up there?`
`00:12.13`	`ekcolnovkol`	`o _o`
`00:12.18`	`Aelie`	`what is your map?`
`00:12.28`	`ekcolnovkol`	`no, i meant hero attack`
`00:12.30`	`Mexa_`	`Hey PM?`
`00:12.46`	`Mexa_`	`Weren't you going to put up a tutorial soon or how was it?`
`00:12.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Aelie - you comfy sending me your map so I can take a look at it?`
`00:12.55`	`Mexa_`	`I forgot what it was about, and where it is.`
`00:12.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Mexa - I'm working on it right now`
`00:12.59`	`UloseTheGame`	`ekcol didn't make sotis aelie?`
`00:13.02`	`Mexa_`	`Ah :)`
`00:13.14`	`Bibendus`	`mmm`
`00:13.22`	`Bibendus`	`can I show the experience bar`
`00:13.28`	`Bibendus`	`like a healt bar?`
`00:13.34`	`ekcolnovkol`	`you should be able to`
`00:13.39`	`Aelie`	`oh...`
`00:13.41`	`Aelie`	`weird`
`00:13.44`	`Aelie`	`it is working right`
`00:13.46`	`Bibendus`	`should but how :D`
`00:13.48`	`Aelie`	`why did i think it wasnt`
`00:13.49`	`Aelie`	`>_<`
`00:13.50`	`ekcolnovkol`	`now that you can attach dialogs to units`
`00:13.52`	`ekcolnovkol`	`:)`
`00:13.55`	`Mexa_`	`Tuna sandwich.. Ohnomnomnomnom`
`00:14.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`OK`
`00:14.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`SO`
`00:14.14`	`Bibendus`	`lets see the available bars`
`00:14.15`	`ekcolnovkol`	`o _o`
`00:14.24`	`Bibendus`	`why dialogs?`
`00:14.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So many location types, ugh`
`00:14.32`	`ekcolnovkol`	`lol`
`00:14.32`	`Bibendus`	`there were already the floating things`
`00:15.07`	`Bibendus`	`mmm the only bar I can see`
`00:15.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Caster / Origin / Outer / Source / Target`
`00:15.17`	`Bibendus`	`is a progress`
`00:15.20`	`Bibendus`	`and a duration`
`00:15.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and Point vs Unit`
`00:15.27`	`Bibendus`	`progress is for building I suppose`
`00:15.29`	`timecat`	`what is the difference between origin and source`
`00:15.41`	`Aelie`	`the hell`
`00:15.48`	`ekcolnovkol`	`caster and source are the most commonly used, origin usually for points, and outer is idk`
`00:15.54`	`Aelie`	`it works on the 12 damage effect and not the 10`
`00:16.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Caster is the unit that starts the ability.`
`00:16.16`	`Bibendus`	`timecat`
`00:16.22`	`Bibendus`	`mm`
`00:16.35`	`Bibendus`	`I think origin can be the position`
`00:16.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Source is whatever created the effect.`
`00:16.45`	`Bibendus`	`where the cast started`
`00:16.50`	`Bibendus`	`but I may be wrong`
`00:16.58`	`ekcolnovkol`	`er`
`00:17.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So in the following chain:`
`00:17.01`	`ekcolnovkol`	`created the effect?`
`00:17.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Ability Cast > Launch Missile > Search > Damage`
`00:17.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`At each point`
`00:17.22`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Source for Ability cast is the casting unit`
`00:17.27`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Source for Launch Missile is the casting unit`
`00:17.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Source for Search is the impacted unit`
`00:17.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Source for Damage is the impacted unit`
`00:17.39`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Cintiq (~cintiq@219-90-157-54.ip.adam.com.au)`
`00:17.42`	`ekcolnovkol`	`i think`
`00:17.48`	`Bibendus`	`PM`
`00:17.49`	`ekcolnovkol`	`the source for search will depend on how you apply the search`
`00:17.59`	`Bibendus`	`do you think it is possible to use search areas`
`00:18.02`	`Bibendus`	`on the attack ability?`
`00:18.07`	`ekcolnovkol`	`if you use target point, it's probably going to be the caster`
`00:18.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Bibendus - With an Issure Order effect yes`
`00:18.32`	`ekcolnovkol`	`actually, you should probably just define each location based on how the previous effect was labeled`
`00:18.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Search > Issue ORder > Attack`
`00:18.43`	`Bibendus`	`but with the basic attack nope?`
`00:18.59`	`Bibendus`	`so I should sobstitute the attack`
`00:19.06`	`Bibendus`	`with a fake attack that issues the real attack order`
`00:19.09`	`Bibendus`	`with my filters?`
`00:19.21`	`Bibendus`	`attack inception!`
`00:19.24`	`Aelie`	`ProzaicMuze: it works on every one of these but one`
`00:19.36`	`Bibendus`	`I must do the thing I said before`
`00:19.56`	`Bibendus`	`prevent the unit from trying to attack unvalidated units`
`00:20.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@ecko - Search is tricky`
`00:20.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`IBecause it has Launch and Impact locations`
`00:20.27`	`ekcolnovkol`	`yeah`
`00:20.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`These two fields is how you pass the "source location" from one unit to the next`
`00:20.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The default setup of Launch - Srouce Unit and Impact - Target Unit/Point is what I'm referring to`
`00:21.01`	`ekcolnovkol`	`it's the same for almost every effect`
`00:21.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If you set both to Source then the Source Unit will continue to use the Caster`
`00:21.30`	`UloseTheGame`	`hey ekcol, if I have a unit like a vespene geyser and i want to have a unit built over it`
`00:21.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Aelie - the damage buff? And what isn't it working on?`
`00:21.45`	`ekcolnovkol`	`you don't "build over" vespene geysers`
`00:21.48`	`ekcolnovkol`	`:)`
`00:21.49`	`Aelie`	`theres 3 levels of aura`
`00:21.50`	`ekcolnovkol`	`you replace them`
`00:21.53`	`Aelie`	`star, blood, and fire`
`00:21.55`	`UloseTheGame`	`right`
`00:22.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Oh, so one of thoses isn't applying damage buffs correctly?`
`00:22.04`	`Aelie`	`it does not w ork on star, and it works just fine ont he other 2`
`00:22.05`	`UloseTheGame`	`but how do I checked which unit was replaced`
`00:22.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`What is the order you gain the buffs?`
`00:22.16`	`ekcolnovkol`	`the vespene geyser itself is a unit`
`00:22.20`	`UloseTheGame`	`right`
`00:22.32`	`ekcolnovkol`	`i don't understand your question`
`00:22.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@ecko - Origin and Outer refer to unit models.`
`00:22.52`	`ekcolnovkol`	`o?`
`00:22.55`	`UloseTheGame`	`well`
`00:22.57`	`UloseTheGame`	`im gonna guess`
`00:23.05`	`Aelie`	`do you want to take a look?`
`00:23.06`	`UloseTheGame`	`hmmm`
`00:23.09`	`UloseTheGame`	`well basically`
`00:23.18`	`UloseTheGame`	`my faction selection system is purposefully wierd`
`00:23.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Origin takes the exact center of the model for the unit triggering it.`
`00:23.28`	`UloseTheGame`	`its for a diplo`
`00:23.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`If there isn't a model, this bugs I believe`
`00:23.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Outer takes the edge of the circle closest to the target`
`00:23.54`	`ekcolnovkol`	`wasn't aware of that relationship o _o`
`00:23.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So if you launched a fireball from a MASSIVE sphere`
`00:23.58`	`UloseTheGame`	`drones build a vespene geyser and the geyser name is that of the nation you will be`
`00:24.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`say, 10cell radius`
`00:24.05`	`ekcolnovkol`	`oh that explains`
`00:24.10`	`ekcolnovkol`	`the shield responses`
`00:24.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Caster and Source launch from whatever the crap you want on the unit with Actors usually`
`00:24.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`While Origin is center and Outer takes the closest edge to the target`
`00:24.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and yes, that's how shield responses work.`
`00:24.55`	`Bibendus`	`sigh noone cares about the poor bibe's problem`
`00:24.55`	`Bibendus`	`z`
`00:24.56`	`Bibendus`	`:P`
`00:24.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Or`
`00:25.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I have like 5 questions I'm answering and am doing them in order silly`
`00:25.15`	`ekcolnovkol`	`lol`
`00:25.18`	`Bibendus`	`u'r not the only one`
`00:25.18`	`Bibendus`	`:P`
`00:25.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Aelie - yes, that would help`
`00:25.32`	`ekcolnovkol`	`you could have answered my question pretty quickly :p`
`00:25.37`	`Bibendus`	`what's the sense of life?`
`00:25.46`	`Bibendus`	`anzwer this`
`00:25.46`	`Bibendus`	`:P`
`00:25.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes, but I risked the chance of you not understanding it or others asking questions because I wasn't clear when answering you`
`00:26.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Bibendus - what do you mean by unvalidated units?`
`00:26.31`	`Bibendus`	`i made a validator`
`00:26.47`	`Bibendus`	`i dont want that my unit tries to attack units with validator = false`
`00:26.58`	`Bibendus`	`actually the unit tries to attack them but then he's blocked`
`00:27.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/8927-data-panic-and-berserk-unit-states-beginner-difficulty/`
`00:27.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Look at the Berserk ability`
`00:27.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It searches the area around it for the closest target and attacks (If you use Target Sorts)`
`00:27.22`	`Bibendus`	`it may be something related`
`00:27.26`	`Bibendus`	`to the smart thing`
`00:27.30`	`Bibendus`	`but on attack`
`00:27.30`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You can, instead, add the validatr to the search effect`
`00:27.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`And it will ignore target it finds if they dont' pass the validator.`
`00:27.43`	`Bibendus`	`but the problem is`
`00:27.49`	`Bibendus`	`i'm not using a target ability`
`00:27.52`	`Bibendus`	`but the attack`
`00:27.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Doesn't matter`
`00:27.58`	`Bibendus`	`that seems to have 0 useful params`
`00:28.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You just want the unit to look for targets and only target people who pass the validator.`
`00:28.14`	`Bibendus`	`let'z see`
`00:28.48`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You could use Effect - Instant > Search Area (Validator goes here) > Issue Order > Attack`
`00:28.49`	`Bibendus`	`so it auto attacks`
`00:28.52`	`Bibendus`	`valid nearby units`
`00:28.52`	`Bibendus`	`m`
`00:28.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`then set it to auto-cast`
`00:28.54`	`Aelie`	`ProzaicMuze: as a test, i gave blood ruby's behavior to star ruby`
`00:28.58`	`Aelie`	`it doesnt level`
`00:29.07`	`Bibendus`	`oh k`
`00:29.10`	`Bibendus`	`so what i said before`
`00:29.14`	`Bibendus`	`i must use another ability`
`00:29.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`yes`
`00:29.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and make sure that the unit ALSO has the normal attack ability`
`00:29.29`	`Bibendus`	`that triggers the default attack`
`00:29.29`	`ProzaicMuze`	`so that it can tell the unit to use said ability.`
`00:29.32`	`ProzaicMuze`	`yep`
`00:29.32`	`Bibendus`	`yep`
`00:29.33`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Zoxc (~zoxc@ti0128a380-dhcp0301.bb.online.no)`
`00:29.35`	`Bibendus`	`but mm`
`00:29.38`	`Bibendus`	`if no units are found`
`00:29.54`	`Bibendus`	`the unit will try to use the standard attack on unvalidated units`
`00:29.56`	`Bibendus`	`I suppose`
`00:30.03`	`Bibendus`	`issue order stop?`
`00:30.04`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`00:30.41`	`ekcolnovkol`	`prozaic, are you going to blizzcon this year? :u`
`00:31.04`	`Bibendus`	`mmm`
`00:31.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Bibendus - is the validator checking for a specific alliance or what? Depending on what it's checking for you may not have to change much`
`00:31.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Ecko - yes`
`00:31.16`	`Bibendus`	`i check for line of sight`
`00:31.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Along with several other SCU team members.`
`00:31.21`	`ekcolnovkol`	`scu?`
`00:31.24`	`Bibendus`	`with walls blocking`
`00:31.25`	`ekcolnovkol`	`starcraft universe?`
`00:31.26`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes`
`00:31.38`	`ekcolnovkol`	`blizzard paid for everyone's travel? o _o`
`00:31.40`	`Bibendus`	`unluckly`
`00:31.45`	`Bibendus`	`I can't use basic filters :P`
`00:31.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Several of us, yes, but not all of us.`
`00:31.54`	`ekcolnovkol`	`how many flights did you guys get?`
`00:32.07`	`Bibendus`	`btw`
`00:32.11`	`Bibendus`	`can I place an auto cast ability`
`00:32.20`	`Bibendus`	`on page 2-3-4 of command card`
`00:32.20`	`Bibendus`	`?`
`00:32.27`	`Bibendus`	`will they work anyway?`
`00:32.37`	`ekcolnovkol`	`yes, if autocast is on by default`
`00:32.40`	`ProzaicMuze`	`2-3`
`00:32.49`	`Bibendus`	`ye whatever`
`00:32.50`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`00:32.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yeah, you can hide auto-cast abilities`
`00:32.57`	`Bibendus`	`good`
`00:33.05`	`Bibendus`	`must i place them on the command card`
`00:33.22`	`Bibendus`	`?`
`00:33.37`	`Bibendus`	`or it will work anyway even if not in the command card`
`00:33.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes`
`00:33.47`	`Bibendus`	`oh nice`
`00:33.50`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The unit needs to have the ability on the Unit Object and it's command card`
`00:33.55`	`Bibendus`	`oh`
`00:34.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It was yes to the "is it required" part`
`00:34.07`	`Bibendus`	`so I must place it in the command card`
`00:34.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`yep`
`00:34.12`	`Bibendus`	`but i can place it in another page`
`00:34.14`	`Bibendus`	`kk thankz`
`00:34.20`	`ekcolnovkol`	`how many of you are going to the summit? 2?`
`00:34.21`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Exactly`
`00:34.24`	`Bibendus`	`i was thinking of making a tutorial but now`
`00:34.28`	`Bibendus`	`it seems a bit too complex to explain`
`00:34.32`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`00:34.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`00:34.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So aside from Aelie, did I get everyone's questions?`
`00:34.53`	`Bibendus`	`I can make the validator tutorial`
`00:35.00`	`Bibendus`	`u can make the auto attack filter thingy`
`00:35.02`	`Bibendus`	`:P`
`00:35.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`facepalm`
`00:35.13`	`Bibendus`	`lolz`
`00:35.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I already have so many tutorials to make :S`
`00:35.18`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`00:35.22`	`Bibendus`	`but this fixes`
`00:35.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Ekco - what do you mean by summit?`
`00:35.35`	`Bibendus`	`the mostunwanted problem`
`00:35.37`	`ekcolnovkol`	`community summit`
`00:35.40`	`Bibendus`	`units attacking through walls!`
`00:35.56`	`Bibendus`	`the only fix I saw was by trigger`
`00:36.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I don't even know what the community summit is`
`00:36.16`	`ProzaicMuze`	`do you have a link?`
`00:36.18`	`ekcolnovkol`	`oh`
`00:36.47`	`ekcolnovkol`	`http://www.curse.com/articles/wow-en-news/289958.aspx`
`00:37.08`	`Aelie`	`its weird`
`00:37.19`	`Aelie`	`it sometimes takes the veterancy damage buff`
`00:37.21`	`ekcolnovkol`	`it covers all their games, this article is from the perspective of the meeting with their WoW developers`
`00:37.22`	`Aelie`	`and doesnt ther times`
`00:37.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`what is the date for this year's?`
`00:37.51`	`ekcolnovkol`	`right before blizzcon`
`00:37.55`	`ekcolnovkol`	`well, the day before`
`00:38.02`	`ekcolnovkol`	`it's a day long thing`
`00:38.20`	`Aelie`	`once i upgrade them it works fine`
`00:38.24`	`Bibendus`	`second fansite???`
`00:38.26`	`Bibendus`	`what's the first one?`
`00:38.31`	`ProzaicMuze`	`In that case, no`
`00:38.36`	`ProzaicMuze`	`We're not really a fansite`
`00:38.38`	`ekcolnovkol`	`o`
`00:38.42`	`Bibendus`	`but still`
`00:38.44`	`Bibendus`	`what's the first one`
`00:38.45`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`00:38.46`	`________________`	`NA MapNight in 30 minutes!`
`00:38.49`	`ekcolnovkol`	`first one?`
`00:38.55`	`ekcolnovkol`	`oh`
`00:39.00`	`ekcolnovkol`	`this article was from 2008`
`00:39.04`	`ekcolnovkol`	`i was at the 2010 summit`
`00:39.05`	`Bibendus`	`oh i m idiot`
`00:39.08`	`Bibendus`	`it's the second summit`
`00:39.11`	`Bibendus`	`not the second fansite`
`00:39.11`	`Bibendus`	`lol`
`00:39.12`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`00:39.24`	`Bibendus`	`misread`
`00:39.28`	`ekcolnovkol`	`ye`
`00:39.48`	`ekcolnovkol`	`proziac, invite me next time you guys test scu :p`
`00:39.52`	`ekcolnovkol`	`*prozaic`
`00:40.06`	`ekcolnovkol`	`wierd pronounciation <<`
`00:40.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`00:40.22`	`ekcolnovkol`	`but looks who's talking`
`00:40.28`	`ekcolnovkol`	`:I`
`00:40.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It's just Prosaic and Muse with Z's`
`00:40.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`nothin' too hard`
`00:40.43`	`ekcolnovkol`	`what does it even mean`
`00:40.43`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mephs (~mephs@c-71-237-100-25.hsd1.co.comcast.net)`
`00:40.52`	`ekcolnovkol`	`i keep thinking`
`00:40.54`	`ekcolnovkol`	`"Plavix"`
`00:40.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Prosaic refers to poetry`
`00:41.02`	`Bibendus`	`oh ProzaicMuze I have a fast question`
`00:41.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Prose Poetry is boring`
`00:41.04`	`ekcolnovkol`	`and muse is muse`
`00:41.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Muse is something inspirational`
`00:41.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It's an oxymoron`
`00:41.14`	`MosaicPubes`	`My name is prozaicmuze i like cocks`
`00:41.25`	`Bibendus`	`do you think a validator with 24 innested validators on each attack can cause performance issues?`
`00:41.38`	`ekcolnovkol`	`mephs, i heard you were going to open-source smashcraft :u`
`00:41.39`	`ProzaicMuze`	`It's true`
`00:41.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I like them all up in me`
`00:41.45`	`MosaicPubes`	`well yeah`
`00:41.51`	`Bibendus`	`all path / distance validators`
`00:41.51`	`HeyRevolver`	`loool`
`00:42.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Bibendus - why on earth would you use 24 validators in one for attacks?`
`00:42.10`	`MosaicPubes`	`i got the API pretty much done but i want to release a couple game modes first`
`00:42.14`	`Bibendus`	`cuz`
`00:42.14`	`Mexa_`	`Mephs isn't here`
`00:42.15`	`MosaicPubes`	`it's pretty sl ick`
`00:42.20`	`Mephs`	`hi`
`00:42.21`	`Bibendus`	`validators only return true/false`
`00:42.22`	`HeyRevolver`	`I have a question!`
`00:42.23`	`Bibendus`	`am i right?`
`00:42.24`	`HeyRevolver`	`lol`
`00:42.25`	`ekcolnovkol`	`by the way... did you ever get any emails from blizzard about all the blazblue effects you were using?`
`00:42.28`	`Mexa_`	`Ohnoes.`
`00:42.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`00:42.38`	`Mephs`	`nah`
`00:42.42`	`HeyRevolver`	`is it possible to make tab open hero inventory and backpack at the same time?`
`00:42.45`	`ekcolnovkol`	`hm`
`00:42.46`	`ekcolnovkol`	`lol`
`00:42.46`	`Mephs`	`just a lot of much deserved praise and cocksucking from them`
`00:42.49`	`Bibendus`	`so how can I compare 2 distances calculated with 2 different validators?`
`00:42.56`	`Mexa_`	`lol`
`00:42.58`	`Bibendus`	`if each validator only returns true/false?`
`00:43.00`	`Mexa_`	`hardly`
`00:43.03`	`________________`	`keyes ur a dick even more than usual`
`00:43.06`	`________________`	`~keyesx`
`00:43.13`	`________________`	`~keyesx is a dick`
`00:43.13`	`purl`	`________________: please, watch your language.`
`00:43.16`	`Mephs`	`~ekcolnovkol`
`00:43.17`	`________________`	`lol @ purl`
`00:43.19`	`HeyRevolver`	`kanye?`
`00:43.28`	`Bibendus`	`is a penis!`
`00:43.36`	`Mephs`	`~ekcolnovkol`
`00:43.37`	`purl`	`ekcolnovkol is, like, into a lot of penises`
`00:43.37`	`HeyRevolver`	`true`
`00:43.47`	`Bibendus`	`~Bibendus`
`00:43.47`	`purl`	`i guess bibendus is a man of many legs.`
`00:43.51`	`Mephs`	`~Mephs`
`00:43.51`	`purl`	`[mephs] someone with three more yachts than you!`
`00:43.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~ProzaicMuze`
`00:43.52`	`purl`	`somebody said prozaicmuze was a being of pure light descended from a higher plane to grace the wicked creature that is man with his blessings of knowledge.`
`00:43.57`	`Bibendus`	`oh I'm still man of many legs`
`00:44.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`we don't exist`
`00:44.06`	`Mephs`	`yea, basically`
`00:44.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`LMAO`
`00:44.11`	`Mephs`	`i heard mods wanted to ban me`
`00:44.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Or apparently I do exist`
`00:44.15`	`Mephs`	`the fuck is wrong with you people`
`00:44.17`	`Keyeszx`	`________________ how am I a dick more than usual?`
`00:44.25`	`Mephs`	`if i am banned your last shred of hope and dignity will be lost`
`00:44.28`	`HeyRevolver`	`donde esta el keybind para inventory y backpack containers`
`00:44.39`	`Keyeszx`	`Mephs be trolling again?`
`00:44.44`	`Mephs`	`this is irl`
`00:44.48`	`Bibendus`	`~ProzaicMuze the data master`
`00:44.50`	`Mephs`	`no funny games`
`00:45.08`	`Keyeszx`	`purl you gonna participate in mapnight tonight?`
`00:45.09`	`Bibendus`	`~ProzaicMuze`
`00:45.09`	`purl`	`hmm... prozaicmuze is a being of pure light descended from a higher plane to grace the wicked creature that is man with his blessings of knowledge.`
`00:45.15`	`Bibendus`	`so u are`
`00:45.15`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`00:45.17`	`Mexa_`	`Or is it just you being elitlistic.. Idk.`
`00:45.18`	`Mephs`	`anyway fuck off it's food time`
`00:45.43`	`Bibendus`	`btw ProzaicMuze do u have better ideas`
`00:45.48`	`Bibendus`	`on how to not use 24 validators?`
`00:45.48`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`00:46.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'd have to see wtf you were trying to do before I could comment`
`00:46.53`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I dont' know why you would need them,`
`00:46.56`	`Bibendus`	`compare`
`00:46.59`	`Bibendus`	`distance with path`
`00:47.03`	`Bibendus`	`to distance with no path`
`00:47.16`	`Bibendus`	`if distance with pathing is > of distance with no path`
`00:47.21`	`HeyRevolver`	`is it possible to make tab open hero inventory and backpack instead of numpad 1 and 2? Please? Help? You guys hate me?`
`00:47.26`	`Bibendus`	`there is a wall in the middle`
`00:47.31`	`HeyRevolver`	`i knew it.`
`00:47.42`	`Bibendus`	`so I did all the cases`
`00:47.51`	`Bibendus`	`like a noob programmer`
`00:48.27`	`Bibendus`	`if 1 < distance <= 2 check if path is <= 2`
`00:48.34`	`Bibendus`	`if 2 < distance <= 3 check if path is <= 3`
`00:48.36`	`Bibendus`	`etc`
`00:49.00`	`Bibendus`	`the data editor forced my hand`
`00:49.02`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`00:49.21`	`Keyeszx`	`prozaic when is SCU coming out?`
`00:49.23`	`Bibendus`	`but it seemes the only way`
`00:51.13`	`Bibendus`	`I think I broke him`
`00:51.14`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`00:51.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Ah, there isn't anything wrong with a complex validator if you do it properly`
`00:51.18`	`*** join/#sc2mapster HeyRevolver (~HeyRevolv@cpe-174-096-055-224.carolina.res.rr.com)`
`00:51.29`	`Bibendus`	`it's still`
`00:51.37`	`ProzaicMuze`	`You could use the Combine, Function, Condition etc validators to achieve what you want`
`00:51.43`	`Bibendus`	`a set of 3x8 range validators`
`00:51.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I wouldn't see it being too much of a performance hit given that all it's doing is If Than Else`
`00:51.47`	`Keyeszx`	`Prozaic you guys should release SCU on a friday so we can play it on mapnight`
`00:51.51`	`Bibendus`	`ye I used these`
`00:52.02`	`Bibendus`	`i m worried about the pathing check`
`00:52.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Keyeszc - not any time soon. SCU will be released in 3 parts right now. THe PvP Arena first (Open Beta will be announced when we'ere ready for that)`
`00:52.18`	`Bibendus`	`and the frequency of attacks`
`00:52.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`then the Boss Battle Map`
`00:52.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`then the RPG SCU map`
`00:52.27`	`Mexa_`	`Crap... a defect pixel on my display ,_,`
`00:52.46`	`Bibendus`	`mmm`
`00:52.54`	`Bibendus`	`now I'm wondering why I did a los thing`
`00:52.57`	`Keyeszx`	`I'm a sad panda since you said not any time soon`
`00:53.05`	`Keyeszx`	`It looks so polished from the videos`
`00:53.06`	`Bibendus`	`when I already made my custom attack trigger thingy with custom los by trigger`
`00:53.09`	`Bibendus`	`mmm`
`00:53.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lol`
`00:53.21`	`UloseTheGame`	`I'm almost scared Muze`
`00:53.23`	`UloseTheGame`	`its like...`
`00:53.29`	`Bibendus`	`just to defeat the data editor I suppose`
`00:53.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`The parts we hve done are polished, but that's one small segment of the plans we have`
`00:53.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`For example, we're currently making custom models for female variations`
`00:53.57`	`ProzaicMuze`	`We plan on LOTS of custom work for everything`
`00:54.08`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So while we have stuff setup with stuck units, we want to make it better with custom stuff`
`00:54.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Especially boss battles`
`00:54.22`	`Mexa_`	`Custom work? I like.`
`00:54.38`	`Mexa_`	`Did you put up an entry on moddb yet?`
`00:54.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`we have roughly 10-15 raid bosses ranging from test phase to completed, but half of them will eventually get custom art.`
`00:54.46`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Not taht I'm aware of`
`00:55.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Custom work would include custom music, 2d artwork, UI, models, particles (if we get around to it), textures`
`00:55.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`And no`
`00:55.12`	`Bibendus`	`serious maps`
`00:55.15`	`Bibendus`	`require a lot of work`
`00:55.16`	`Bibendus`	`:P`
`00:55.19`	`Mexa_`	`starcraft 2 universe, right?`
`00:55.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I don't think anyone in our group actually participates in that community`
`00:55.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`StarCraft Universe`
`00:55.31`	`Mexa_`	`well, must be this`
`00:55.31`	`Mexa_`	`http://www.moddb.com/mods/starcraft-ii-universe`
`00:55.42`	`Mexa_`	`or is it?`
`00:55.42`	`ProzaicMuze`	`That's not us`
`00:55.47`	`Mexa_`	`xP ok`
`00:55.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`we're only on Hive, TL and SC2Mapster atm`
`00:55.49`	`ProzaicMuze`	`plus our own site`
`00:56.13`	`Mexa_`	`ahyeah`
`00:56.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Ulose - it's like what?`
`00:56.52`	`UloseTheGame`	`oh`
`00:56.54`	`UloseTheGame`	`i was saying`
`00:57.02`	`UloseTheGame`	`every tps released has sucked badly`
`00:57.28`	`UloseTheGame`	`and you want to make a tps that doesn't suck, even though its probably doomed from the start :)`
`00:57.44`	`UloseTheGame`	`I view tps as laggy and slow, i never liked fps graphics in the first`
`00:59.28`	`Mexa_`	`That's abit broad to state, don''t you think?`
`00:59.36`	`Mexa_`	`fps graphics?`
`00:59.37`	`Bibendus`	`i should go to sleep :\|`
`00:59.42`	`Bibendus`	`cya guyz`
`00:59.45`	`Bibendus`	`thanks proz`
`00:59.46`	`Mexa_`	`Seeya`
`00:59.58`	`Bibendus`	`and mexa`
`01:00.01`	`Bibendus`	`make me imba tiles`
`01:00.02`	`Bibendus`	`:P`
`01:00.07`	`Mexa_`	`;>=`
`01:00.11`	`Bibendus`	`kizz`
`01:00.12`	`Mexa_`	`I'm not a texturer`
`01:00.17`	`Bibendus`	`sigh`
`01:00.31`	`Bibendus`	`I found some but`
`01:00.33`	`Bibendus`	`dunno`
`01:00.36`	`Bibendus`	`i'm not conviced :P`
`01:00.41`	`Mexa_`	`Sorry, I'm a programmer as it looks now`
`01:00.43`	`Mexa_`	`:)`
`01:00.59`	`Bibendus`	`and i'm a data editor as it looks now`
`01:01.10`	`Mexa_`	`;)`
`01:01.16`	`Bibendus`	`but they are all apparences`
`01:01.17`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Ulose - by the time we release key input delay will be minimal. Blizzard is obviously improving it as they move towards Blizzard DOTA`
`01:01.23`	`Bibendus`	`we know what we are :D`
`01:01.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Thus if they want that to do well, they will make our game better as a by-product of improving their's`
`01:01.41`	`Bibendus`	`i didnt see improved`
`01:01.43`	`Bibendus`	`by now`
`01:01.54`	`Bibendus`	`and I don't think they will need the input delay fix for dota`
`01:01.54`	`Mexa_`	`Muze, I recall that input and dialog delays are better in 1.4 even`
`01:01.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`There has been significant improvements to the input delay`
`01:02.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Yes`
`01:02.06`	`Bibendus`	`except we don't know what they are doing to change it drastically`
`01:02.07`	`ProzaicMuze`	`the last several patches have improved it`
`01:02.14`	`Bibendus`	`I tried crush company`
`01:02.16`	`Bibendus`	`it still lags`
`01:02.19`	`Bibendus`	`and I was trying it alone`
`01:02.42`	`Mexa_`	`The implementation could also make a deal out of that, Bib`
`01:02.47`	`Bibendus`	`mexa`
`01:02.47`	`Bibendus`	`nope`
`01:02.51`	`Bibendus`	`i do things well`
`01:02.52`	`Bibendus`	`:P`
`01:02.55`	`Mexa_`	`nope?`
`01:03.04`	`Mexa_`	`humhum thenÂ¨`
`01:03.11`	`Bibendus`	`:P`
`01:03.18`	`Bibendus`	`k maybe a lot of time ago`
`01:03.21`	`Bibendus`	`it was bigger but`
`01:03.26`	`Bibendus`	`rly I don't see great improvement`
`01:03.28`	`Bibendus`	`s`
`01:03.30`	`Bibendus`	`still unplayable`
`01:03.35`	`Bibendus`	`maybe on 500ms`
`01:03.43`	`Bibendus`	`now it's 450 or 400`
`01:03.49`	`Mexa_`	`lol`
`01:03.50`	`Bibendus`	`btw if they really improved the code`
`01:03.56`	`Bibendus`	`why didn't blizzard write it on patch notes?`
`01:04.01`	`Mexa_`	`You're just making things up now on the fly`
`01:04.16`	`Mexa_`	`At least bench it or something before assuming that:P`
`01:04.17`	`Bibendus`	`what thingz`
`01:04.24`	`Bibendus`	`ye easy to do`
`01:04.30`	`Bibendus`	`considering I didn't benchmark it before the patch`
`01:04.33`	`Bibendus`	`:P`
`01:04.34`	`Bibendus`	`btw`
`01:04.42`	`Bibendus`	`did anyone benchmark it to prove that they changed?`
`01:04.47`	`Bibendus`	`I'm not the one that must prove it :D`
`01:05.01`	`Mexa_`	`I only know people said it "feel" more responsive now`
`01:05.13`	`Mexa_`	`So yeah, I don't know`
`01:05.14`	`Mexa_`	`:P`
`01:05.16`	`Bibendus`	`it can just be`
`01:05.21`	`Bibendus`	`a common sensation`
`01:05.23`	`Mexa_`	`illuminati`
`01:05.26`	`Bibendus`	`maybe 1 person saying so`
`01:05.28`	`Bibendus`	`and convincing`
`01:05.29`	`Bibendus`	`yes`
`01:05.33`	`Bibendus`	`them too`
`01:05.34`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`01:05.40`	`Mexa_`	`:>`
`01:05.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@Bibendus - probably because the improvements are gradual and aren't worth mentioning on their own`
`01:05.47`	`ProzaicMuze`	`whereas over many patches it becomes significant`
`01:05.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Like if the lag is 500ms right now`
`01:05.58`	`Bibendus`	`dunno`
`01:05.58`	`ProzaicMuze`	`and each patch it improvies 50ms`
`01:06.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`big whoop`
`01:06.06`	`ProzaicMuze`	`but after 5 patches that's 50% decrease`
`01:06.07`	`Bibendus`	`to me it seems something that needs a complete engine rework`
`01:06.11`	`Bibendus`	`and can't be improved`
`01:06.18`	`Bibendus`	`they just did it the easy way`
`01:06.26`	`Mexa_`	`Easy way?`
`01:06.30`	`Bibendus`	`and they must rework the engine to change it`
`01:06.31`	`Bibendus`	`yep`
`01:06.31`	`Mexa_`	`No, they did it the hard way`
`01:06.36`	`Mexa_`	`Due to security`
`01:06.42`	`Bibendus`	`oh`
`01:06.49`	`Bibendus`	`then what the hell are they waiting for`
`01:06.52`	`Bibendus`	`:P`
`01:07.00`	`Mexa_`	`Do you want a fast unreliable service, or a less fast reliable service?`
`01:07.00`	`Bibendus`	`maybe they want to keep the security`
`01:07.04`	`Mexa_`	`It's a tradeoff`
`01:07.08`	`Bibendus`	`and keep the service fast`
`01:07.21`	`Bibendus`	`still thinking about`
`01:07.23`	`Bibendus`	`what security`
`01:07.32`	`Bibendus`	`click and mouse pressing`
`01:07.33`	`Bibendus`	`on custom map`
`01:07.37`	`Bibendus`	`do they need security?`
`01:07.51`	`Mexa_`	`Authorizing network packets among other things`
`01:07.54`	`Bibendus`	`basic keys are already blocked`
`01:08.12`	`Bibendus`	`you can still do it by abilities clicking`
`01:08.20`	`Bibendus`	`move spamming`
`01:08.28`	`Bibendus`	`apm spamming :P`
`01:08.55`	`Mexa_`	`The game is optimised that way, abilities are asyncronous, while triggers are not.`
`01:08.57`	`Keyeszx`	`anyone want to come join mapnight?`
`01:09.08`	`Bibendus`	`ye thats my point`
`01:09.14`	`Bibendus`	`they didn't optimize the trigger part`
`01:09.24`	`Bibendus`	`they made the easy way`
`01:09.30`	`Bibendus`	`not they need to rework the whole thing`
`01:09.47`	`Mexa_`	`I still don't think they made it the easy way`
`01:10.21`	`________________`	`NA Mapnight live @ channel sc2mapnight`
`01:10.28`	`Mexa_`	`It is just as easy or hard to make something right or wrong`
`01:10.51`	`Mexa_`	`And the decisions of how the architecture is going to function`
`01:11.08`	`Mexa_`	`It's not easy at all, Bib:P`
`01:11.55`	`Bibendus`	`faster`
`01:11.57`	`Bibendus`	`not easier`
`01:11.57`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`01:12.16`	`Bibendus`	`faster do develop`
`01:13.17`	`Mexa_`	`Merpmerp`
`01:13.29`	`Bibendus`	`and btw they already said they will fix it`
`01:13.33`	`Bibendus`	`so they know how to do it`
`01:13.41`	`Bibendus`	`but probably will require a lot of time doing it`
`01:13.54`	`Mexa_`	`They could say they will fix it, and have no clue`
`01:13.59`	`Bibendus`	`lolz`
`01:14.02`	`Mexa_`	`Only to cheer everyone up in advance`
`01:14.04`	`Bibendus`	`blizzard never does that`
`01:14.04`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`01:14.08`	`Mexa_`	`And yeah, it would take time`
`01:14.19`	`Bibendus`	`u know blizzard is the opposite`
`01:14.36`	`Bibendus`	`never reveals anything to avoid discussions`
`01:14.40`	`Mexa_`	`Anyone could make future promises`
`01:14.44`	`Bibendus`	`if this thing is not done or is done differently`
`01:15.19`	`Bibendus`	`why should they do that :\|`
`01:15.32`	`Bibendus`	`considering it's the most creativity blocking problem in the editor`
`01:15.49`	`Bibendus`	`they sure know how to fix it`
`01:16.05`	`Bibendus`	`but it will come with hots for sure xD`
`01:16.11`	`Bibendus`	`with the market and everything`
`01:16.12`	`Mexa_`	`They either know now, or will know`
`01:16.22`	`Bibendus`	`if it's like they did`
`01:16.27`	`Bibendus`	`with frozen throne`
`01:16.34`	`Bibendus`	`they will implement big changes to the editor`
`01:16.40`	`Bibendus`	`and this may be included`
`01:16.46`	`Bibendus`	`i remember they added`
`01:16.50`	`Bibendus`	`customizable abilities`
`01:16.55`	`Bibendus`	`and such things`
`01:17.05`	`Bibendus`	`it was a huge change`
`01:17.14`	`Bibendus`	`I hope they'll do something similar`
`01:17.18`	`Mexa_`	`Meh, that`
`01:17.34`	`Bibendus`	`btw I should have gone sleep 30 mins ago`
`01:17.35`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`01:17.44`	`UloseTheGame`	`yo any of you up for NA map night?`
`01:17.45`	`Bibendus`	`b b`
`01:17.47`	`timecat`	`sleep?`
`01:17.52`	`Mexa_`	`I remember I had no money and downloaded a tft crack only to use the upgraded editor to produce RoC maps.`
`01:17.52`	`timecat`	`just after 6pm?`
`01:17.56`	`Mexa_`	`lol`
`01:17.57`	`Bibendus`	`not in europe`
`01:17.59`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`01:18.08`	`Bibendus`	`lol`
`01:18.21`	`Bibendus`	`i was editing`
`01:18.27`	`Bibendus`	`the data files manually`
`01:18.30`	`Bibendus`	`for custom abilities`
`01:18.32`	`Bibendus`	`on roc :D`
`01:18.43`	`Bibendus`	`oh fu`
`01:18.45`	`Bibendus`	`good night`
`01:18.46`	`Mexa_`	`tideous:P`
`01:18.46`	`Bibendus`	`!`
`01:18.48`	`Bibendus`	`yep`
`01:18.53`	`Mexa_`	`xls shizzle`
`01:19.02`	`Mexa_`	`Bye Bib`
`01:21.12`	`Aelie`	`UloseTheGame: how many you goy?`
`01:21.23`	`UloseTheGame`	`6`
`01:21.25`	`UloseTheGame`	`:)`
`01:21.27`	`Aelie`	`cool`
`01:21.50`	`Agouti`	`a word of caution`
`01:21.58`	`Agouti`	`if you want your maps to survive patches unscathed`
`01:22.02`	`Agouti`	`always duplicate`
`01:22.17`	`Agouti`	`never modify and use objects which ship with the game`
`01:27.24`	`Aelie`	`anyone interested in a game of my map!`
`01:29.01`	`UloseTheGame`	`http://www.twitch.tv/sc2mapnightna?utm_campaign=live_embed_click&utm_source=www.sc2mapster.com`
`01:29.09`	`UloseTheGame`	`map night :D`
`01:31.04`	`________________`	`http://www.twitch.tv/sc2mapnightna`
`01:31.05`	`________________`	`:p`
`01:31.08`	`________________`	`2 streams`
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`02:29.40`	`Agouti`	`I'm suddenly getting lots of negative index errors in 1.4`
`02:30.00`	`Agouti`	`blizzard haven't changed somethign with player numbers starting at 0 or something have they?`
`02:30.07`	`Agouti`	`or array indices starting at 1`
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`02:57.40`	`SoulTaker916_`	`jade`
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`03:08.32`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u one there?`
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`04:07.29`	`Mexa_`	`Fuck, shit, ass`
`04:07.54`	`Vailreth`	`what?`
`04:08.06`	`Mexa_`	`So, I was working on the designer, both today and yesterday, and I totally couldn't get why suddenly everything was not accurate`
`04:08.22`	`Mexa_`	`... apparantly I made width + 19 on a place`
`04:08.26`	`Mexa_`	`Without a fucking reason`
`04:08.29`	`Mexa_`	`=_________________=`
`04:08.32`	`Aelie`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyvZ9_hQBXM`
`04:08.33`	`Aelie`	`YouTube video title: Take The "Luv" Train - Views: 3,306 - Rating: 100% - Positive: 26 Negative: 0`
`04:08.35`	`Mexa_`	`Yay for 2 days lost`
`04:08.36`	`Aelie`	`:D`
`04:08.49`	`Vailreth`	`ouch`
`04:09.20`	`Mexa_`	`Better write a note about that for tomorrow, since I'm going to bed now`
`04:09.28`	`Mexa_`	`And I better not make the same mistake again`
`04:09.31`	`Mexa_`	`sapltr.`
`04:10.04`	`Aelie`	`hey Dustin`
`04:18.51`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa_ (~Mexa@80.78.216.115)`
`04:18.57`	`Mexa_`	`there we go...`
`04:22.41`	`Mexa_`	`Hmm... what if I managed to learn this song on piano? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9gaMX_NTLRw`
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`04:47.52`	`SoulTaker916_`	`jade!`
`04:48.36`	`SoulTaker916_`	`anyone know how to get a structure to move?`
`04:48.47`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i gave it ground mover and speed and aceleration`
`04:48.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and move ability`
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`05:09.42`	`onestar`	`i think unit with footprint can't move`
`05:11.23`	`JademusSreg`	`Did you give it a turn rate and remove the footprint?`
`05:17.25`	`Aelie`	`Mexa_ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKQ-48wSkLc`
`05:20.03`	`Aelie`	`or this`
`05:20.03`	`Aelie`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqcVIKQL7-g`
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`05:20.54`	`Mexa_`	`mm`
`05:20.56`	`Mexa_`	`lol`
`05:23.04`	`Aelie`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyvZ9_hQBXM`
`05:23.08`	`Aelie`	`play this :p`
`05:27.16`	`________________`	`fun fun`
`05:29.04`	`JademusSreg`	`Good times.`
`05:29.12`	`Aelie`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqyFWPSYt28`
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`05:35.53`	`________________`	`2.2k views on the mapnight stream already`
`05:35.59`	`________________`	`i like it`
`05:44.49`	`Mexa_`	`woot`
`05:45.51`	`JademusSreg`	`Neato.`
`05:45.56`	`JademusSreg`	`How'd that happen? =D`
`05:46.18`	`________________`	`lots wanted 2 watch us play i guess o.o`
`05:48.17`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`05:58.10`	`Aelie`	`i dont know why you would watch a custom map sc2 stream, honestly`
`05:58.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Same.`
`05:58.27`	`________________`	`ynot?`
`05:58.40`	`Aelie`	`because i dont find watching other people play games fun`
`05:59.01`	`________________`	`well they could just be watching to see what nice maps are out`
`05:59.01`	`________________`	`or how to play`
`05:59.07`	`________________`	`or they just think my voice is sexi`
`05:59.08`	`Aelie`	`someone i know has been watching a d3 stream for like 12 hours`
`05:59.11`	`Aelie`	`today`
`05:59.14`	`________________`	`wow`
`05:59.16`	`Aelie`	`i just dont see the draw`
`05:59.24`	`________________`	`im into D III, but I would never watch a stream that long`
`05:59.30`	`________________`	`maybe a few minutes`
`05:59.33`	`________________`	`to check shiit out`
`05:59.36`	`Aelie`	`yeah`
`05:59.44`	`Aelie`	`but i can see that from screenshots :D`
`05:59.52`	`________________`	`screenshots are stupid`
`05:59.54`	`________________`	`and boring`
`06:00.25`	`________________`	`this is why Youtube > Photobucket as an idea.`
`06:01.20`	`Aelie`	`imgur > photobucket`
`06:01.30`	`________________`	`i was just talking in general`
`06:01.40`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`06:01.51`	`Mexa_`	`eeeeewwh... my dish wasn't pretty`
`06:02.15`	`Mexa_`	`the plates was all black, and I almost puked by the smell`
`06:02.16`	`Mexa_`	`D:`
`06:02.19`	`________________`	`lol`
`06:02.20`	`Mexa_`	`*were`
`06:02.21`	`Aelie`	`....`
`06:02.22`	`Aelie`	`gross`
`06:02.28`	`Mexa_`	`yeah,`
`06:02.40`	`JademusSreg`	`wtf`
`06:02.40`	`Mexa_`	`It was only two plates though`
`06:02.48`	`JademusSreg`	`How'd they get that bad?`
`06:02.59`	`Aelie`	`so how do i do this ui customizing bit`
`06:03.25`	`JademusSreg`	`Helral has some basic tutorials on the subject, iirc.`
`06:03.32`	`Mexa_`	`been there too long, with filth/food, and then by pouring water and dishcleaning liquid, it all becomes a healthy environment with plenty of nutrition`
`06:03.37`	`________________`	`wats iirc`
`06:03.39`	`________________`	`~iirc`
`06:03.39`	`purl`	`well, iirc is "if I recall correctly"`
`06:03.42`	`________________`	`oic`
`06:03.45`	`Mexa_`	`Didn't have the time to dish it :>`
`06:03.58`	`Mexa_`	`or urge, or whatever ._.`
`06:04.29`	`Mexa_`	`wishes he had a dishwasher.`
`06:04.33`	`JademusSreg`	`But the short version is you make a new xml file, change existing frames or add news child frames, import, and go to data editor Game UI and add the file to the custom layout field.`
`06:04.40`	`________________`	`^`
`06:04.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha, Mexa.`
`06:04.57`	`Aelie`	`think you could link me to one?`
`06:05.05`	`Aelie`	`~wtf`
`06:05.38`	`JademusSreg`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/20323-ui-sc2layout-files-override-method-aiurchef-method/`
`06:05.46`	`Aelie`	`<3`
`06:07.27`	`Mexa_`	`I recall Aiur Chef have been updated along with the patch`
`06:07.39`	`Mexa_`	`Perhaps to be certain, that tutorial should be updated`
`06:08.19`	`JademusSreg`	`I was fortunate; the update didn't have any effect on Photon Cycles.`
`06:08.28`	`Mexa_`	`:)`
`06:08.49`	`Mexa_`	`(On the other hand, I'd imagine Helral already would have known already if so)`
`06:09.06`	`JademusSreg`	`Dunno how active Helral is.`
`06:09.50`	`Mexa_`	`~seen Helral\|Work`
`06:09.51`	`purl`	`helral\|work is currently on #sc2mapster (23h 29m 52s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 22h 57m 15s, last said: 'meow'.`
`06:10.08`	`Mexa_`	`... oh no he didn't`
`06:10.18`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`06:10.27`	`Mexa_`	`~seen Helral`
`06:10.28`	`purl`	`helral <Helral.EU@54182E89.cm-5-1a.dynamic.ziggo.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 7h 39m 32s ago, saying: 'tordy: not afaik.'.`
`06:10.41`	`Mexa_`	`~seen Helral\|Afk`
`06:10.41`	`purl`	`helral\|afk <~Helral.EU@217-19-26-88.dsl.cambrium.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 44d 18h 47m 4s ago, saying: 'behavior - detector(11) orso'.`
`06:10.51`	`Mexa_`	`~seen Helral\|Home`
`06:10.51`	`purl`	`Mexa_: i haven't seen 'helral\|home'`
`06:11.00`	`Aelie`	`"stariablo"`
`06:11.11`	`Mexa_`	`hmm... what else is he calling himself...`
`06:11.23`	`Mexa_`	`Oh yeah, I wonder how/when/what that will be`
`06:11.49`	`Mexa_`	`That mod have been there reserved for a greater long time now.`
`06:11.58`	`JademusSreg`	`Yup.`
`06:12.05`	`Aelie`	`i see`
`06:12.35`	`JademusSreg`	`You can grab the Blizzard Dota trigger library, but it doesn't have any strings.]`
`06:12.48`	`Aelie`	`so`
`06:13.02`	`Aelie`	`if i cared an inch about any dota games`
`06:13.05`	`Aelie`	`i might`
`06:13.24`	`JademusSreg`	`It's comical to me they leave such things in there.`
`06:13.25`	`Aelie`	`the layout in mods/core.sc2mod are the ones to use?`
`06:13.29`	`Mexa_`	`Stariablo also have some triggers`
`06:13.40`	`Mexa_`	`Though, since the lib isn't there, it's not enough`
`06:14.26`	`Mexa_`	`And what I can read out of the existing trigger file, comments in plaintext there seem to talk about some heat meter...`
`06:15.01`	`Aelie`	`so... anyone know where id find the master scale value for the leaderboards?`
`06:15.51`	`JademusSreg`	`I never bothered to look. =D`
`06:15.52`	`Aelie`	`ive got this leaderpanel open but i dont have a clue what im looking at`
`06:15.54`	`Mexa_`	`~`
`06:15.58`	`Mexa_`	`^`
`06:16.07`	`Aelie`	`how about this chat panel`
`06:16.11`	`Mexa_`	`oh well, I'm going to bed anyways`
`06:16.14`	`Aelie`	`i want to make the chat text smaller`
`06:16.29`	`Mexa_`	`it's past 8am already ._.`
`06:16.37`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm getting pretty tired myself.`
`06:16.49`	`Mexa_`	`Gnight folks.`
`06:17.01`	`________________`	`nite mexa`
`06:17.09`	`JademusSreg`	`So while I'm not up for digging through the layout files with you, atm, I can provide you with an example of how I implemented my own layout shit. http://pastebin.com/HHeSAGmH`
`06:17.25`	`Aelie`	`can i just replace their font and be done with it?`
`06:17.36`	`JademusSreg`	`http://pastebin.com/2mrCLLxT`
`06:17.41`	`JademusSreg`	`There's my style file.`
`06:18.25`	`________________`	`style filej`
`06:18.31`	`________________`	`like`
`06:19.14`	`JademusSreg`	`If you think that's somethin' go read the Seuss tooltip.`
`06:19.20`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`06:19.46`	`JademusSreg`	`It took a bit of research to find just the right meter for it.`
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`06:20.44`	`Aelie`	`do you know what the default chat font is?`
`06:21.37`	`JademusSreg`	`ChatDisplay inherits from BaseTemplate, iirc.`
`06:22.07`	`tordy`	`anyone actually believe sc2 should've focused more on custom maps than esports?`
`06:22.09`	`JademusSreg`	`I forget. I'd need to check the files.`
`06:22.27`	`Aelie`	`theres certainly more money in esports`
`06:26.34`	`SoulTaker916_`	`jade?`
`06:26.58`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`06:27.06`	`tordy`	`im getting this CActorAction warning`
`06:27.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how do i get those damn`
`06:27.10`	`tordy`	`any reason for that?`
`06:27.12`	`SoulTaker916_`	`cannons to move?`
`06:27.37`	`JademusSreg`	`[00:49:18] <SoulTaker916_> and move ability`
`06:27.37`	`JademusSreg`	`[01:11:44] <JademusSreg> Did you give it a turn rate and remove the footprint?`
`06:28.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`yes`
`06:28.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`no skills appear`
`06:29.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Skills>`
`06:29.20`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`06:29.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`like move`
`06:29.48`	`JademusSreg`	`Aaaaabilities. =D`
`06:30.00`	`JademusSreg`	`Or command card buttons.`
`06:30.02`	`SoulTaker916_`	`this dick`
`06:30.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`buttons`
`06:30.06`	`JademusSreg`	`Or clickly pressy pictures.`
`06:30.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`dont show`
`06:30.25`	`JademusSreg`	`So it doesn't even have attack?`
`06:30.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`yes it does`
`06:32.00`	`Aelie`	`does my file have to be called fontstyles.sc2style`
`06:32.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Nope.`
`06:32.12`	`JademusSreg`	`Call it anything.`
`06:32.17`	`SoulTaker916_`	`needed acceleration`
`06:32.21`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i though i changed it to 1`
`06:32.25`	`SoulTaker916_`	`guess i was wrong`
`06:33.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`06:33.10`	`Aelie`	`i cant seem to affect any of the font sizes in game`
`06:33.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Did you go to Game UI in the data editor and add it to the Font Styles field?`
`06:34.15`	`Aelie`	`...`
`06:34.17`	`Aelie`	`no!`
`06:34.18`	`Aelie`	`:<`
`06:34.23`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`06:35.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i almost went to jail today :D`
`06:35.15`	`SoulTaker916_`	`that would ahve been fun`
`06:35.25`	`JademusSreg`	`I know how that is, haha.`
`06:35.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well accouple weeks ago`
`06:35.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`this bush i park next to at my house`
`06:35.51`	`JademusSreg`	`Your chronometer may be broken.`
`06:35.55`	`SoulTaker916_`	`took of my mirror of my new car`
`06:36.09`	`Aelie`	`where do i find files iv inputted`
`06:36.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so i "trimmed it"`
`06:36.15`	`Aelie`	`imported`
`06:36.21`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i was cinda mad and trimmed it good`
`06:36.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Ael, iirc, imported files go to the root directory.`
`06:36.45`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so then people kept saying it looks ugly the way i did it`
`06:36.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so today i choped the whole thing down`
`06:37.01`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and the cops came`
`06:37.04`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`06:37.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`thinkign i was rampaging the nighborhood`
`06:37.18`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and chopping down telephone poles`
`06:37.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its a huge fireman axe`
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`06:38.28`	`JademusSreg`	`Nice.`
`06:38.36`	`JademusSreg`	`I need one of those for my workshop.`
`06:39.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i never throught i would really use it`
`06:39.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but for some reason`
`06:39.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`about once or twice a month i need it`
`06:39.52`	`SoulTaker916_`	`oh ya`
`06:40.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`did i mention theres a elementary school next to my house`
`06:40.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`thats probably the other reason`
`06:40.29`	`Aelie`	`ugh`
`06:40.35`	`Aelie`	`fuck the import manager`
`06:40.36`	`JademusSreg`	`Axe wieling maniac near an elementary school? Yeah, that figures.`
`06:40.44`	`Aelie`	`why does it auto select my entire fuckign my documents`
`06:40.45`	`Aelie`	`>_<`
`06:40.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well i live here and its not like im not outside ever`
`06:41.02`	`Currydevil`	`and one click to uncheck them all is too much work?`
`06:41.08`	`Aelie`	`it is when you forget`
`06:41.12`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i take the dog over to the school and play fetch`
`06:41.12`	`Currydevil`	`lol`
`06:41.12`	`JademusSreg`	`I have a directory designated for importing into the editor.`
`06:41.22`	`Aelie`	`now my map is 12 meg`
`06:41.28`	`SoulTaker916_`	`LOLZ`
`06:41.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`didnt they increase`
`06:41.32`	`Aelie`	`and contains every previous version of my map`
`06:41.33`	`JademusSreg`	`And the SC2Components approach is pretty convenient too.`
`06:41.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the limit?`
`06:41.46`	`Currydevil`	`yes`
`06:41.51`	`Currydevil`	`it's 20 now`
`06:41.52`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so ur good`
`06:41.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ya`
`06:42.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`because people wo doign really amazing things`
`06:42.03`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`06:42.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`with graphics`
`06:42.17`	`Aelie`	`wait scratch that`
`06:42.20`	`Aelie`	`now its 68 mb`
`06:42.33`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha++`
`06:43.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`wtf..`
`06:43.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`shit...`
`06:43.15`	`Aelie`	`it wont let me delete all this shit`
`06:44.20`	`JademusSreg`	`It's not there until you save.`
`06:44.38`	`Aelie`	`when i try and remove it`
`06:44.42`	`Aelie`	`it has it greyed out`
`06:45.05`	`JademusSreg`	`Can you Undo?`
`06:45.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`jade how do i make my cannon auto hold position on stop or attack`
`06:45.14`	`Aelie`	`does it really want me to delete everything out of every one of these folders by hand?`
`06:45.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`or will the attack do that for me?`
`06:45.51`	`JademusSreg`	`Well, it doesn't havethe transient flag, so it will probably have to stand still to attack.`
`06:45.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i want it to hold possition when it reaches it's destination`
`06:46.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how would i do that?`
`06:46.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Issue Order effect or trigger it.`
`06:46.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how do i do the issue order effect`
`06:46.42`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im not good with data`
`06:46.56`	`JademusSreg`	`Hm.`
`06:47.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`makes new effect`
`06:47.26`	`SoulTaker916_`	`sets it to issue order`
`06:47.28`	`Aelie`	`derp derp derp im gonna make it so if you have any folders highlighted it greys out "remove files"`
`06:47.47`	`SoulTaker916_`	`*ability=move/hold possition`
`06:47.48`	`JademusSreg`	`Well, with attacking, it should be pretty easy to use a Set effect to Issue Order effect to hold position, then launch the rest of the weapon shit, I imagine.`
`06:48.13`	`JademusSreg`	`Ael, the files aren't actually imported until you save the map.`
`06:48.21`	`JademusSreg`	`So you could close it and prevent it.`
`06:48.23`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Reactorex (~Reactorex@66.185.69.95)`
`06:48.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`wait the baility is move and the sub ability is hold possition`
`06:48.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i cant find the place to put hold position?`
`06:50.36`	`Aelie`	`is there any way to update this file without reimporting`
`06:50.58`	`JademusSreg`	`You could use a periodic behavior to issue the hold position order if it passes on an order validator.`
`06:51.08`	`Reactorex`	`Pingggggg.`
`06:51.17`	`Aelie`	`bleh`
`06:51.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`wait`
`06:51.33`	`JademusSreg`	`Ael, save the map as a SC2Components.`
`06:51.44`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i think if i set ability: ability command to 3?`
`06:51.47`	`JademusSreg`	`Then you'll have access to its cuts in an open directory.`
`06:51.55`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it would do the third command for move(hold possition)?`
`06:52.07`	`JademusSreg`	`And it will still be openable from the editor and playable.`
`06:52.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`what would i do after this?`
`06:52.34`	`SoulTaker916_`	`target: target +?`
`06:52.36`	`SoulTaker916_`	`or somthing?`
`06:52.50`	`Aelie`	`there doesnt seem to be anything in between tiny and huge`
`06:52.58`	`Aelie`	`nothing i change in this file is making a difference`
`06:53.31`	`Aelie`	`<StyleFile>`
`06:53.31`	`Aelie`	`<Style name="ChatDisplay" height="26"/>`
`06:53.31`	`Aelie`	`</StyleFile>`
`06:53.35`	`Aelie`	`thats what i did`
`06:54.10`	`JademusSreg`	`Taker, using the behavior is the least convoluted data approach I can think of atm.`
`06:54.36`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ok tried to make behavior`
`06:55.23`	`JademusSreg`	`Ael, it's properly referenced in the Game UFI data?`
`06:55.24`	`SoulTaker916_`	`what kind of behavior am i making jade?`
`06:55.31`	`Aelie`	`yeah`
`06:55.37`	`Aelie`	`it jsut makes it tiny`
`06:56.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Buff, givei t a period, give it an effect of issue order, give it a validator to check its current order isn't move or attack.`
`06:56.18`	`Aelie`	`http://i.imgur.com/stHi1.jpg`
`06:57.17`	`SoulTaker916_`	`do i need to make the effect?`
`06:57.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`06:57.24`	`SoulTaker916_`	`cause im not seeing a hold postion effect`
`06:57.25`	`SoulTaker916_`	`kk`
`06:57.40`	`JademusSreg`	`Ael, I'm pretty tired.`
`06:57.47`	`Aelie`	`me too`
`06:57.58`	`Aelie`	`im 90% to the fuck it stage of this, already`
`06:57.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`makes issue effect`
`06:58.15`	`Reactorex`	`FINALLY!`
`06:58.20`	`JademusSreg`	`There's nothing wrong with the file, and I assume it's properly referenced.`
`06:58.24`	`Reactorex`	`I can make "custom script" triggers!`
`06:58.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`sets ability to move and abillity command to 3`
`06:58.32`	`Aelie`	`people will just have to deal with a giant leader board and chat text`
`06:58.36`	`Reactorex`	`;u;`
`06:58.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`06:58.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Congats, Reactor.`
`06:59.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`in behavior sets effect-periodic to the effect just made`
`06:59.07`	`Reactorex`	`Mac had a bug where it'd kill the editor if you tried making a new custom script trigger and type into it.`
`06:59.10`	`JademusSreg`	`Time to rest.`
`06:59.16`	`Reactorex`	`The trigger would just sort of.. fart on itself.`
`06:59.17`	`Reactorex`	`and die.`
`06:59.17`	`JademusSreg`	`Later.`
`06:59.21`	`SoulTaker916_`	`period set to .5`
`06:59.24`	`Reactorex`	`Bai, Jade, :3`
`06:59.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how do i make the it validate?`
`07:00.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`behavior :requirements?`
`07:01.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how do i check if its moving?`
`07:02.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:(`
`07:03.10`	`Currydevil`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:03.45`	`Currydevil`	`rather you can make one. looking it up rq`
`07:03.47`	`SoulTaker916_`	`behavior: validators (disabled) or (remove)?`
`07:03.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`rq>`
`07:03.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`?`
`07:04.03`	`Currydevil`	`real quick'`
`07:04.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well`
`07:04.15`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i want a unit`
`07:04.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`to hold possition`
`07:04.21`	`SoulTaker916_`	`when not moving`
`07:04.35`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its too slow to be chasing or trying to chase units`
`07:05.32`	`Currydevil`	`you can make a "unit compare speed" validator and set it to equal to 0`
`07:05.37`	`Currydevil`	`and target = source`
`07:05.44`	`Currydevil`	`er Unit = source`
`07:05.46`	`Currydevil`	`and`
`07:05.47`	`SoulTaker916_`	`were do i put this`
`07:05.58`	`Currydevil`	`actually`
`07:05.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`on behavior validator (disable or (remove)?`
`07:06.05`	`Currydevil`	`You want to put it on disable`
`07:06.14`	`Currydevil`	`and you want to make it: grater than 0`
`07:06.17`	`Aelie`	`well`
`07:06.18`	`Currydevil`	`greater than`
`07:06.25`	`Aelie`	`i found the leaderboard title text`
`07:06.32`	`Aelie`	`i cant find the header/item text`
`07:07.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i dont see "unit compare speed"`
`07:07.12`	`Currydevil`	`so if the unit speed is greater than 0, it will disable the hold position buff`
`07:07.20`	`Currydevil`	`it's a validator type`
`07:07.24`	`Currydevil`	`you have to make your own`
`07:07.35`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ah`
`07:08.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`were do i put the 0?`
`07:08.36`	`Currydevil`	`value`
`07:08.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`calidator value?`
`07:08.41`	`SoulTaker916_`	`validator*`
`07:08.43`	`Currydevil`	`but it defaults to 0 i belive`
`07:08.47`	`Currydevil`	`believe*`
`07:08.51`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ya it does`
`07:08.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`is that all for the validator`
`07:09.03`	`Currydevil`	`should be`
`07:09.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`set validator compate= grater than?`
`07:09.09`	`SoulTaker916_`	`nothign else?`
`07:09.12`	`Currydevil`	`yeah, and unit is source`
`07:09.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ok`
`07:09.50`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i set it`
`07:09.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and added it to disable validator`
`07:10.28`	`Currydevil`	`is the buff set to hidden?`
`07:10.39`	`SoulTaker916_`	`no?`
`07:10.45`	`Currydevil`	`ok good`
`07:10.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`were do i check that?`
`07:11.03`	`Currydevil`	`test it real quick, and tell me if the buff goes away properly`
`07:11.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`h/o`
`07:11.13`	`Currydevil`	`it's a flag, but don't worry about it yet`
`07:11.17`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i need to apply it to unit`
`07:11.19`	`Currydevil`	`kk`
`07:11.42`	`Currydevil`	`sometimes the validators need to be set up backwards from the way you expect them to work.`
`07:11.46`	`Aelie`	`http://i.imgur.com/zUXOV.jpg`
`07:11.52`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i have in buf i ahve the ability set to a effect`
`07:11.58`	`Aelie`	`does anyone know what style manages this text`
`07:11.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i mean`
`07:12.05`	`onestar`	`are there any good software to edit xml?`
`07:12.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`buf is set to effect which is set to ability move command 3`
`07:12.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`07Currydevil01`
`07:13.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i add the behavior on to`
`07:13.09`	`SoulTaker916_`	`"added on units"`
`07:13.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`?`
`07:13.14`	`Currydevil`	`hmm`
`07:13.17`	`Currydevil`	`sec`
`07:13.27`	`Currydevil`	`no`
`07:13.32`	`Currydevil`	`Behavior: Behaviors`
`07:13.35`	`Currydevil`	`add it there`
`07:13.50`	`SoulTaker916_`	`kk`
`07:13.57`	`SoulTaker916_`	`testing`
`07:14.25`	`SoulTaker916_`	`might take a bit`
`07:14.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ill be here still`
`07:14.42`	`Currydevil`	`ok`
`07:18.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its not working`
`07:18.17`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its moving forward to engage enemies`
`07:18.26`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it should be casting hold position`
`07:18.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`on stopping`
`07:19.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`oh`
`07:19.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its working`
`07:19.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its moving on its own`
`07:19.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`07:19.28`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i think i messed up the abiliuty`
`07:19.32`	`SoulTaker916_`	`07Currydevil01`
`07:20.49`	`Currydevil`	`lol`
`07:21.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i guessed that the command index is 3`
`07:21.26`	`SoulTaker916_`	`thats wrong`
`07:21.27`	`Currydevil`	`but it is holding pos when it stops?`
`07:21.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how do i figure it out?`
`07:21.32`	`SoulTaker916_`	`no`
`07:21.34`	`Currydevil`	`oh`
`07:21.35`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it moves when it stops`
`07:21.35`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`07:21.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its casting move`
`07:21.45`	`Currydevil`	`well, did the buff go away when it moved?`
`07:21.50`	`SoulTaker916_`	`no`
`07:22.00`	`Currydevil`	`did it go away when it stopped?`
`07:22.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im not sure`
`07:22.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it was always moving`
`07:22.20`	`Currydevil`	`ok.`
`07:22.42`	`Currydevil`	`your issue order should be able to just pick hold position out of a list.`
`07:22.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ya`
`07:22.48`	`Currydevil`	`let me check`
`07:22.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but i have to pick the ability index`
`07:22.55`	`SoulTaker916_`	`for move`
`07:23.04`	`Currydevil`	`why?`
`07:23.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`command is move and the index is hold position`
`07:23.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the issue is`
`07:23.16`	`Currydevil`	`on the issue order effect?`
`07:23.21`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i dont know which index number is hold position and its not teeling`
`07:23.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ya`
`07:23.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`hold possition is a sub ability of move`
`07:24.35`	`Currydevil`	`oh, didn't know`
`07:24.50`	`Currydevil`	`well, I guess you have to guess and check then? or look at which button hold pos is on the command card?`
`07:24.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ya i was adding the abilities to command card`
`07:24.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and figured it out`
`07:24.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`07:25.00`	`Currydevil`	`or is that what you did?`
`07:25.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ya`
`07:25.01`	`Currydevil`	`ok`
`07:25.02`	`Currydevil`	`cool`
`07:25.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`thats what im doing`
`07:25.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but i forgot`
`07:25.09`	`SoulTaker916_`	`theres a 0 index`
`07:25.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so its atually (probably )2`
`07:25.18`	`Currydevil`	`oh yeah`
`07:25.19`	`Currydevil`	`lol`
`07:25.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`not 3`
`07:25.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`07:25.21`	`Currydevil`	`yeah`
`07:25.56`	`Currydevil`	`make sure the validator is working right too, check the unit and tell me when you see the buff on it. when it's moving/not moving.`
`07:26.04`	`Currydevil`	`i just want to make sure we set it up right.`
`07:26.12`	`SoulTaker916_`	`me 2`
`07:26.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`^.^`
`07:26.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but while not moving its on`
`07:26.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but its unpowered`
`07:26.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so who knows if that affects anything`
`07:26.33`	`Currydevil`	`hm`
`07:26.36`	`Currydevil`	`shouldn't`
`07:26.42`	`Currydevil`	`all it will be checking is move speed`
`07:26.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`oh`
`07:26.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its casting every half second`
`07:27.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`as for the period on the behavior`
`07:27.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`should i remove it?`
`07:28.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`07Currydevil01`
`07:28.35`	`Currydevil`	`does it interrupt the attack if it keeps casting?`
`07:28.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`nope`
`07:28.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but it need to cast`
`07:28.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`when not moving`
`07:29.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`doesnt matter how often`
`07:29.20`	`Currydevil`	`ok, so the buff has a .5 period ?`
`07:29.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`7yes`
`07:30.23`	`Currydevil`	`ok`
`07:30.29`	`Currydevil`	`should be fine`
`07:30.47`	`Currydevil`	`as long as the validator is working, it will cast while not moving and go away while moving`
`07:31.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well`
`07:31.02`	`SoulTaker916_`	`when i move`
`07:31.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it halts`
`07:31.09`	`Currydevil`	`oh ok`
`07:31.09`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so remove the pediot?`
`07:31.15`	`SoulTaker916_`	`thats the issue`
`07:31.16`	`Currydevil`	`so it's still casting while moving?`
`07:31.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`07:31.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`yes`
`07:31.30`	`Currydevil`	`hmm`
`07:31.33`	`Currydevil`	`let me check something`
`07:31.41`	`*** join/#sc2mapster onestar (7cf4effb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.124.244.239.251)`
`07:31.43`	`Currydevil`	`see if it's similar to my shadow meld effect`
`07:34.04`	`Currydevil`	`hmm`
`07:34.23`	`Currydevil`	`i set my validator to "equal to 0"`
`07:34.31`	`Currydevil`	`you might try that first and tell me what you get`
`07:34.36`	`SoulTaker916_`	`kk`
`07:34.42`	`Currydevil`	`i'm going to try it with a issue order`
`07:34.46`	`Currydevil`	`and see what I get`
`07:35.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`testing lol`
`07:37.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`maybe u cna help me with data`
`07:37.17`	`SoulTaker916_`	`triggers r easy`
`07:37.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but data is weird`
`07:37.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`perfect it worked!`
`07:37.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`07:38.19`	`Currydevil`	`problem is, it is interrupting my attack`
`07:38.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`not for me?`
`07:38.44`	`Currydevil`	`hmm`
`07:38.51`	`Currydevil`	`maybe because i was attack my own unit.`
`07:38.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im not sure ill test it`
`07:39.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster shintah (bebble@h-81-167.a155.priv.bahnhof.se)`
`07:39.36`	`onestar`	`Validator - Caster Not Attacking`
`07:40.23`	`Currydevil`	`ok, it works as long as there are enemy units in range`
`07:40.39`	`Currydevil`	`so if an enemy goes out of range it will hold pos again`
`07:40.39`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u stack them in there?`
`07:41.00`	`Currydevil`	`so you want it to do that right? so it doesn't chase them?`
`07:41.39`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its a moving photon cannon`
`07:41.45`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i want it to act like a photon cannon`
`07:41.46`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`07:41.59`	`Currydevil`	`well, then it's working perfectly for your needs lol`
`07:42.20`	`Currydevil`	`it will move when you tell it to, and hold pos when it's not moving. and it will attack enemy units in range`
`07:42.20`	`Currydevil`	`won't chase them`
`07:42.23`	`Currydevil`	`at least`
`07:42.27`	`Currydevil`	`it shouldn't chase them`
`07:42.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its not`
`07:42.41`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its holding position`
`07:42.50`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u can see it highlighted in command card`
`07:43.09`	`Currydevil`	`yeah`
`07:43.17`	`Currydevil`	`well, then it works to your needs ;)`
`07:43.36`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well i should probably add`
`07:43.40`	`SoulTaker916_`	`not attacking also`
`07:43.50`	`Currydevil`	`hm?`
`07:43.54`	`Currydevil`	`why?`
`07:44.08`	`Currydevil`	`as long as it's not moving, it will keep casting hold pos`
`07:44.55`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well i might add a rapid fire`
`07:45.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`with a period of .5`
`07:45.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it doesnt affect it noticablu`
`07:46.02`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how would i do that anyways theres no validator for not attacking only is attackin`
`07:46.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i add it to remove?`
`07:46.42`	`Currydevil`	`no, remove will take the buff off completely`
`07:46.53`	`Currydevil`	`and since you add it on in the editor, then it won't work anymore`
`07:47.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so how to i inverse attack`
`07:47.14`	`Currydevil`	`if you had something to re apply the bahavior later, then you could remove it.`
`07:47.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im lookign at the validator`
`07:47.22`	`Currydevil`	`let me look at validators`
`07:50.41`	`Currydevil`	`i'm not sure on that one. I haven't made an attack validator yet and i'm unsure on what the fields need to be.`
`07:50.51`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its cool`
`07:53.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`07Currydevil01`
`07:58.12`	`Currydevil`	`yes?`
`07:58.47`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i want to make the photon cannon fire a extra shot off if it has 10 energy`
`07:58.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`help me with it?`
`07:59.35`	`Currydevil`	`hmm`
`07:59.53`	`Currydevil`	`will he have max of 10 energy or will he be able to stock pile energy to spam it?`
`08:00.26`	`SoulTaker916_`	`stock pile`
`08:00.48`	`Currydevil`	`ok, there's a way to use multiple weapons I believe. the goliath does it in campaign with an upgrade.`
`08:00.57`	`Currydevil`	`I just need to look into that and see how..`
`08:01.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i know how to do it`
`08:01.07`	`Currydevil`	`oh?`
`08:01.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ive added it before on other maps`
`08:01.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but`
`08:01.16`	`Currydevil`	`then just make the 2nd weapon require 10 energy cost`
`08:01.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ah!`
`08:01.40`	`Currydevil`	`that way, <10 he won't fire`
`08:01.42`	`SoulTaker916_`	`wait, couldnt i just make the current weapon requre 10 energy`
`08:01.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`then`
`08:01.51`	`SoulTaker916_`	`just make it all use the same eng`
`08:01.53`	`Currydevil`	`you could, but then he won't even shoot normal`
`08:01.55`	`SoulTaker916_`	`then i can control it better`
`08:01.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`thats fine`
`08:02.04`	`Currydevil`	`oh yeah then do that`
`08:02.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i atually like the idea better`
`08:02.15`	`Currydevil`	`so when it runs out of energy .. no more shooting`
`08:02.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`cause then i can set the period for the fireing to 0`
`08:02.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and let the regen handle single shots`
`08:02.31`	`Currydevil`	`indeed`
`08:02.46`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but ya..`
`08:02.50`	`SoulTaker916_`	`second weapon`
`08:02.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it would be too cheep`
`08:03.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`refill to fast on downtime`
`08:03.09`	`Currydevil`	`haha yeah`
`08:03.39`	`Currydevil`	`then "normal shot, extra shot, extra shot, extra shot, normal shot, extra extra extra lol`
`08:04.09`	`Currydevil`	`i wonder.`
`08:04.23`	`Currydevil`	`nvm`
`08:04.28`	`Currydevil`	`musing to myself.`
`08:06.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how do i get both weapons to appear below?`
`08:07.02`	`Currydevil`	`hmm, add it to the unit I believe.`
`08:07.10`	`Currydevil`	`it should show all the weapons you have on it.`
`08:07.42`	`Currydevil`	`I have a marine with 4 guns, but i got it to show only 1. I believe it showed all 4 when i just added them all to him.`
`08:09.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`when its not fireing how would i get it to replenish energy faster?`
`08:10.26`	`Currydevil`	`set it's energy regen high`
`08:10.29`	`Currydevil`	`on the unit`
`08:10.43`	`Currydevil`	`put a delay too, so it doesn't regen while shooting.`
`08:10.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`when the cannon isnt attacking`
`08:10.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i wan it to regen faster`
`08:11.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i want it to always regen`
`08:11.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`oh`
`08:11.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`wait`
`08:11.09`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i see..`
`08:11.12`	`Currydevil`	`well`
`08:11.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but thats too much`
`08:11.17`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i dont want it to stop`
`08:11.24`	`Currydevil`	`well`
`08:11.53`	`Currydevil`	`you'd have to validate if it was attacking, then do another buff that increases the energy regen while not attack`
`08:11.56`	`Currydevil`	`attacking*`
`08:12.21`	`Currydevil`	`set up just like the hold pos buff, but with an energy regen modification instead of issue order`
`08:12.26`	`Currydevil`	`with validator on the disable`
`08:12.50`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ah`
`08:12.52`	`SoulTaker916_`	`that makes sense`
`08:12.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and i can do that now`
`08:12.56`	`Currydevil`	`yeah`
`08:12.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:d`
`08:13.07`	`Currydevil`	`just make it a diff buff than the first.`
`08:20.01`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ya i made this space game`
`08:20.05`	`SoulTaker916_`	`4 classes of units`
`08:20.09`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and 3 classes of lazers`
`08:20.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ships had a variety of lazers`
`08:20.28`	`SoulTaker916_`	`class C was for mine and light`
`08:20.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`class B light medium and heavy`
`08:20.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`class A medium and heavy`
`08:21.41`	`SoulTaker916_`	`made a rock paper sizor deal mine <light<medium<heavy<mine`
`08:21.42`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
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`09:25.42`	`A1win`	`hmm... trying to figure the best way to make a data structure for a system where each player has an arbitrary number of various unit types in his "squad", and when any unit of that squad dies, it's placed into a queue so that when you reach a "rescue closet", the first unit of each player's squad is respawned/recreated there... but there are no dynamic list structures other than unit groups... so should I just use unit groups and pause&hide those ...`
`09:25.48`	`A1win`	`... units in it or any better ideas? :s`
`09:29.09`	`Currydevil`	`you could set an array i suppose.`
`09:29.37`	`Currydevil`	`unit dies, loop through array for an empty spot, set that index to the unit type of triggering unit`
`09:30.01`	`Currydevil`	`when you get to a rescue spot, spawn the first unit in the array and set that index to empy`
`09:30.05`	`Currydevil`	`empty`
`09:30.39`	`Currydevil`	`I assume you would respawn all the dead units at once? or is a rescue spot only good for 1 unit?`
`09:30.40`	`A1win`	`would need a huge ass array`
`09:30.50`	`Currydevil`	`well =O`
`09:30.59`	`Currydevil`	`not sure how else to save your units as they die.`
`09:31.03`	`A1win`	`only spawning one from each rescue spot for each player`
`09:31.09`	`Currydevil`	`oh ok`
`09:31.27`	`Currydevil`	`how many players and what is the max for a squad?`
`09:31.36`	`Currydevil`	`indefinite?`
`09:31.42`	`A1win`	`I was thinking that I'd create a new unti when the old one dies and add it to the end of a "storage" unit group where all units are hidden`
`09:31.52`	`A1win`	`haven't decided yet`
`09:31.56`	`Currydevil`	`you could probably do that`
`09:32.07`	`Currydevil`	`since you have the ability to search a unit group by indexes`
`09:32.15`	`Currydevil`	`it's basically an array.`
`09:32.19`	`A1win`	`I know I could, was just asking if anyone had a better idea D:`
`09:32.21`	`Currydevil`	`of undetermined size.`
`09:32.26`	`Currydevil`	`well ... probably not`
`09:32.37`	`onestar`	`data table is dynamic structure`
`09:32.56`	`A1win`	`since this requires the units to actually exist in the game while they're hidden`
`09:32.59`	`A1win`	`mm true`
`09:32.59`	`Currydevil`	`I would go with a unit group really.. it seems the easiest.`
`09:33.05`	`Currydevil`	`oh yeah`
`09:33.23`	`A1win`	`in a data table I'd need to use a running index too but I guess it'd be good enough`
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`10:06.50`	`Bibendus`	`mmm`
`10:07.01`	`Bibendus`	`what about dk custom health bar and level`
`10:07.03`	`Bibendus`	`!`
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`11:24.38`	`A1win`	`yay, fit eight rows of these sidescroller platforms nicely into a 256x256 map`
`11:24.57`	`A1win`	`without having to modify their thickness at all D:`
`11:28.08`	`A1win`	`and bottomless pits don't screw up the camera, whee`
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`15:35.26`	`A1win`	`I decided to let players use units from all races in the sidescroller thingy to give it more variation... some kind of a mercenary setting`
`15:35.52`	`JademusSreg`	`THere are Zerg mercenaries? =D`
`15:35.55`	`A1win`	`and now I'm wondering how I should let players pick the units they use`
`15:36.11`	`A1win`	`the zergs have some portable psi emitters on them that let the mercenaries control their minds =P`
`15:36.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`15:36.23`	`JademusSreg`	`Nice.`
`15:36.24`	`Spackenzergie`	`hey jademus`
`15:36.35`	`JademusSreg`	`Hi Spack.`
`15:36.44`	`Spackenzergie`	`made the new system`
`15:37.00`	`Spackenzergie`	`11 triggers in total`
`15:37.23`	`JademusSreg`	`Congrats.`
`15:37.28`	`Spackenzergie`	`error is gone`
`15:37.34`	`Spackenzergie`	`problem not`
`15:37.36`	`Spackenzergie`	`:P`
`15:37.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Problem?`
`15:37.52`	`Spackenzergie`	`yep`
`15:38.16`	`Spackenzergie`	`you remember the 4 terrazine shrines to accumulate points?`
`15:38.28`	`Spackenzergie`	`2 of them didnt work`
`15:38.40`	`Spackenzergie`	`you said its because of the triggers`
`15:38.47`	`Spackenzergie`	`and the thread error`
`15:39.03`	`Spackenzergie`	`I could dry`
`15:39.06`	`Spackenzergie`	`cry*`
`15:39.08`	`JademusSreg`	`This was so long ago I don't remember any of it. =D`
`15:39.23`	`Spackenzergie`	`;)`
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`16:59.02`	`Spackenzergie`	`fuck yea`
`16:59.10`	`Spackenzergie`	`rewrote it`
`16:59.13`	`Spackenzergie`	`working now`
`16:59.14`	`Spackenzergie`	`:D`
`16:59.41`	`Spackenzergie`	`it looks like i finally have a runnable version`
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`17:16.08`	`Mexa_`	`'yawn'`
`17:16.29`	`Mexa_`	`derpity derp, why did I have to wake up at 7 pm=?`
`17:17.53`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
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`17:39.11`	`________________`	`654564`
`17:54.15`	`SoulTaker916_`	`hey`
`17:54.18`	`SoulTaker916_`	`jade`
`17:54.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`JADE!!!`
`17:59.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`anyone?`
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`18:11.01`	`Aelie`	`hi`
`18:16.32`	`Aelie`	`http://i.imgur.com/zUXOV.jpg`
`18:16.41`	`Aelie`	`does anyone know what style this is`
`18:19.24`	`XenoX101`	`its the Active Gems style`
`18:19.31`	`Aelie`	`:<`
`18:19.34`	`XenoX101`	`most commonly seen on headings with "Active Gems"`
`18:19.38`	`Aelie`	`i want to make it smaller`
`18:19.46`	`Aelie`	`but "BoardItem" isnt it`
`18:20.00`	`XenoX101`	`Ah simple, use the Smaller Active Gems style`
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`18:23.16`	`Aelie`	`http://i.imgur.com/aHCuv.jpg`
`18:32.55`	`Mexa_`	`What would you guys say... Tea addiction or coffee addiction?`
`18:33.55`	`HeyRevolver`	`NOS addiction`
`18:34.13`	`HeyRevolver`	`jk coffee owns`
`18:35.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how to i make a ability check if the target can have energy`
`18:36.38`	`Mexa_`	`Revolved, I liked coffee before:P, I do still, but it seems I have substituted the most of it for tea`
`18:36.46`	`SoulTaker916_`	`mexa!!!`
`18:36.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:(`
`18:37.04`	`Mexa_`	`I always get slightly stirred in my head after coffee on regular basis`
`18:37.24`	`Mexa_`	`Soultaker, I don't know .-.`
`18:37.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:(`
`18:43.59`	`A1win`	`ahaha... haven't had this happening before o: just realized I can combine two of my projects into one without too much hazzle`
`18:44.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`a1win`
`18:44.22`	`A1win`	`hey`
`18:44.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`how do i validate in the dummy skill`
`18:44.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`if the triggring unit has`
`18:44.36`	`SoulTaker916_`	`6 or more energy?`
`18:45.06`	`________________`	`use a unit vital compare`
`18:45.14`	`________________`	`source as the target`
`18:45.17`	`________________`	`energy`
`18:45.20`	`________________`	`greater than`
`18:45.20`	`A1win`	`I don't remember much about validators`
`18:45.22`	`________________`	`6`
`18:45.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`kk 1 sec`
`18:45.56`	`Aelie`	`Helral`
`18:46.38`	`A1win`	`JademusSreg, you remember my mech RPG thing? and how I ended up stopping working with it because I didn't come up with a good mission system... and now I have this platformer thing that screams mission system`
`18:46.51`	`A1win`	`I mean sidescroller`
`18:47.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`07________________01`
`18:47.17`	`SoulTaker916_`	`is that a validator?`
`18:47.26`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im making it?`
`18:48.12`	`Mexa_`	`OMg wait... ItÃ¤s not sunday today D:`
`18:48.28`	`HeyRevolver`	`no`
`18:48.31`	`HeyRevolver`	`its not`
`18:48.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`depends r where ur at...`
`18:48.35`	`SoulTaker916_`	`if ur in japan`
`18:48.36`	`HeyRevolver`	`its deus ex day`
`18:48.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`yes it is`
`18:48.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`18:49.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`07HeyRevolver01`
`18:49.35`	`HeyRevolver`	`yo`
`18:49.40`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i was tyring to ask the otherguy`
`18:49.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but hes afk`
`18:49.47`	`HeyRevolver`	`sup`
`18:49.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i have a dummy ability`
`18:49.57`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and i need to check if the triggering unit has enough energy`
`18:50.01`	`SoulTaker916_`	`to cast`
`18:50.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`otherwise i want a error message`
`18:50.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`also if the targeting unit can contain energy`
`18:50.23`	`Aelie`	`~seen Helral`
`18:50.30`	`purl`	`helral is currently on #sc2mapster (6h 15m 57s), last said: 'tordy: not afaik.'.`
`18:50.44`	`HeyRevolver`	`you mean if the ability doesnt cast?`
`18:50.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its a dummy ability`
`18:51.02`	`SoulTaker916_`	`triggers r handling it`
`18:51.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`atually`
`18:51.09`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i can just do it in triggers`
`18:51.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`completly`
`18:51.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`nvm`
`18:51.19`	`HeyRevolver`	`cant you do a comparison`
`18:51.28`	`HeyRevolver`	`unit property = x`
`18:51.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`in the trigger`
`18:51.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`18:51.36`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i was going to do it in data`
`18:51.41`	`HeyRevolver`	`gotcha`
`18:51.46`	`HeyRevolver`	`i dont know shit about data`
`18:57.19`	`HeyRevolver`	`oh`
`18:57.21`	`HeyRevolver`	`soultaker`
`18:57.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`?`
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`19:12.55`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah, A1.`
`19:13.01`	`UloseTheGame`	`hey jade`
`19:13.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`01how do i show a cast circle01`
`19:13.12`	`UloseTheGame`	`i created the data table`
`19:13.15`	`SoulTaker916_`	`JADE JADE JADE`
`19:13.32`	`UloseTheGame`	`now how do i check whether the unit associated was replaced?`
`19:14.36`	`UloseTheGame`	`remember`
`19:14.58`	`UloseTheGame`	`im trying to replace a vespene geyser with an extractor`
`19:15.05`	`UloseTheGame`	`then check the name of the extractor`
`19:15.08`	`UloseTheGame`	`er`
`19:15.10`	`UloseTheGame`	`geyser`
`19:15.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Taker, actor, iirc.`
`19:16.34`	`SoulTaker916_`	`just for a ability`
`19:16.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`?`
`19:16.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`theres not actor in my ability?`
`19:17.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Ulose, assign each geyser a unique int to its custom value, and use that custom value int as either a data table key (cast to string) or an array index, storing the name strings.`
`19:17.59`	`UloseTheGame`	`wait, so i shouldn't use data table`
`19:18.04`	`UloseTheGame`	`(unit)`
`19:18.14`	`UloseTheGame`	`I should do a data table(integer)`
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`19:19.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`u jade?`
`19:19.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`uh*`
`19:22.31`	`Dustin`	`Soultaker`
`19:22.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`^.^`
`19:22.39`	`Dustin`	`Ive got a unit indexing library I made you can you`
`19:22.44`	`Dustin`	`use*`
`19:22.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`hm?`
`19:23.00`	`SoulTaker916_`	`index library?`
`19:23.02`	`SoulTaker916_`	`of ?`
`19:23.09`	`Dustin`	`Just manages indexs`
`19:23.19`	`Dustin`	`Are your refinersy going to be static`
`19:23.23`	`Dustin`	`or be changing alot?`
`19:23.42`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the skill i want to add the cast circle on? it will eb changing alot`
`19:23.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`be*`
`19:24.38`	`JademusSreg`	`That's Ulose's problem.`
`19:24.49`	`Aelie`	`Dustin: hi`
`19:24.56`	`JademusSreg`	`Taker'as is a target graphic.`
`19:25.26`	`SoulTaker916_`	`SI`
`19:25.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`19:25.42`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so jade is this field ur talking about`
`19:25.45`	`SoulTaker916_`	`on the ability?`
`19:25.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`cause i dont see anything there?`
`19:28.24`	`Dustin`	`hi`
`19:29.09`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm a bit too busy.`
`19:29.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`JADE I SAID NOA!!!`
`19:29.21`	`JademusSreg`	`But I expect it's an actor or some such.`
`19:29.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`19:29.51`	`JademusSreg`	`I mean, just look at any ability with a targeting cursor.`
`19:29.56`	`JademusSreg`	`Plenty of examples.`
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`19:35.04`	`Aelie`	`Dustin: how are those missiles coming`
`19:36.00`	`Vailreth`	`any one know of a good tutorial for modeling for SC2?`
`19:36.19`	`Aelie`	`probably could look at any modeling tutorial`
`19:36.37`	`Vailreth`	`i need to know the scale`
`19:37.15`	`Vailreth`	`i can model ok but i dont know how many 3dsmax units equals how big in sc2`
`19:37.23`	`Aelie`	`easy enough to check :p`
`19:38.02`	`Vailreth`	`hmm`
`19:38.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`were is voison`
`19:38.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`too many men`
`19:38.20`	`Vailreth`	`no internet`
`19:38.28`	`SoulTaker916_`	`that bitch...`
`19:39.06`	`Vailreth`	`i hope you are not Refering to Voison that way...`
`19:39.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`out of love and jest`
`19:39.26`	`SoulTaker916_`	`<3`
`19:39.35`	`Vailreth`	`har har`
`19:40.02`	`Vailreth`	`personally i would refer to the one who dosent pay her husband enough to maintain a decent internet connection`
`19:40.05`	`Vailreth`	`as such`
`19:40.55`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well i blame her for not keeping her husban in check ^.^`
`19:41.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`then i blame her mom for giving birth to her and the universe for allowing all the things needed for evolution of man and existence`
`19:41.41`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and....continues to blame down the line`
`19:42.07`	`Vailreth`	`lol`
`19:42.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`19:50.42`	`Twiner`	`map editing`
`19:50.46`	`Twiner`	`I havent done this in a while`
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`19:58.27`	`DonKalypso`	`http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpw8azjjoW1r17tqto1_400.gif`
`19:58.39`	`DonKalypso`	`Move yo' flank, bitch! Lemme see whacha got!`
`20:03.45`	`Aelie`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IUyqenD7kU`
`20:11.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`hey`
`20:11.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i have a instant -target ability`
`20:12.02`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and`
`20:12.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its not triggering a trigger event`
`20:13.08`	`Vailreth`	`maybe your trigger isnt set up right?`
`20:13.18`	`SoulTaker916_`	`mayve`
`20:13.21`	`SoulTaker916_`	`maybe`
`20:13.24`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but i duno`
`20:13.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i tried setting it to generic any`
`20:13.41`	`SoulTaker916_`	`any its a dummy ability`
`20:13.45`	`A1win`	`grrh got a random trigger error in my mech rpg UI saying "Trigger Error in 'gt_DialogItemClicked_Func': Could not get 'triggerControl' from parameter in 'DialogControlSetPropertyAsText' (value: 121)" but no idea what caused it`
`20:13.54`	`A1win`	`can't reproduce :I`
`20:14.46`	`A1win`	`ah now I reproduced ít... hmm`
`20:14.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Sounds like a null control.`
`20:15.23`	`A1win`	`yeah it happens only with one type of an item, I guess I haven't defined some value for ti`
`20:15.26`	`A1win`	`it`
`20:15.31`	`Dustin`	`they are goin Aelie`
`20:15.35`	`Dustin`	`gonna finish em up now I think`
`20:15.41`	`Aelie`	`cool`
`20:15.49`	`A1win`	`holy shit this trigger system is complex`
`20:15.53`	`Dustin`	`You guysthink people would use a simple unit inexing library?`
`20:15.57`	`Aelie`	`im going to have to remake the leaderboard because sc2 is retarded`
`20:16.05`	`JademusSreg`	`You probablty have multiple events registered to the trigger, so the non-dialog control event makes triggerControl null.`
`20:16.22`	`A1win`	`mmh`
`20:16.32`	`SoulTaker916_`	`jade what about meh!`
`20:16.34`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:(`
`20:16.58`	`A1win`	`it only has one event`
`20:17.36`	`JademusSreg`	`You can get text from a button? =\`
`20:19.13`	`JademusSreg`	`Taker, you need to make an actor for it.`
`20:19.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Go to the Actor tab, type in Cursor into the search box to see examples.`
`20:19.44`	`A1win`	`hmm... it happens when my item list is filtered while I have an item selected that's larger than the largest index after the filtering x_X`
`20:19.47`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`20:21.26`	`A1win`	`so I guess I'm somewhere trying to reference that item after it's been destroyed...`
`20:22.45`	`A1win`	`it's so fun to start debugging an insanely complex system you haven't been working on in several months`
`20:23.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`A1win do u know how to get my ability to trip the trigger`
`20:23.15`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:/`
`20:23.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its a effect-target`
`20:23.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`a dummy ability`
`20:23.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but its not setting off the trigger`
`20:23.45`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im missing something simple`
`20:23.46`	`A1win`	`set its effect to (None) if it doesn't have any yet`
`20:25.04`	`A1win`	`argh I can't even remember what each of these variables is referring to`
`20:25.50`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i set effect:effect + (none)`
`20:25.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and it still`
`20:25.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`not triggering`
`20:26.09`	`Dustin`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/trigger-libraries/26250-library-dustins-unit-indexing-dui/`
`20:26.17`	`SoulTaker916_`	`Events Unit - X [213.29, 17.48] uses Build Mineral stack at Generic1 - Any stage (Ignore shared abilities)`
`20:32.45`	`A1win`	`damn my function call chains are loooong`
`20:34.49`	`XenoX101`	`might anyone know why my buttons are being created outside of the dialog?`
`20:35.16`	`SoulTaker916_`	`copy ut button creation action here`
`20:35.18`	`SoulTaker916_`	`just 1`
`20:35.24`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and ur dialog creation action`
`20:35.47`	`XenoX101`	`its all using variables so`
`20:35.51`	`XenoX101`	`probably not useful`
`20:35.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`doesnt matter`
`20:35.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i just want to see them`
`20:35.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`20:36.03`	`XenoX101`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:36.10`	`XenoX101`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:36.44`	`SoulTaker916_`	`which side`
`20:36.50`	`SoulTaker916_`	`is the buttons appearing`
`20:36.54`	`XenoX101`	`left`
`20:36.55`	`SoulTaker916_`	`on the left of the dialog on the right`
`20:37.01`	`SoulTaker916_`	`is it overlaping`
`20:37.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`or`
`20:37.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`compeltly out?`
`20:37.11`	`XenoX101`	`completely out`
`20:37.19`	`XenoX101`	`the next few buttons which have increased X`
`20:37.21`	`XenoX101`	`are within the dialog`
`20:37.42`	`SoulTaker916_`	`try`
`20:37.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`after making the dialog`
`20:37.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`attach it to a variable`
`20:38.02`	`SoulTaker916_`	`then create button (variable)`
`20:39.44`	`XenoX101`	`mm no better`
`20:40.07`	`XenoX101`	`it was working before`
`20:40.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`my guess then is the offset`
`20:40.09`	`XenoX101`	`then I changed the images`
`20:40.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`is putting them out`
`20:40.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`of the boxes`
`20:40.33`	`XenoX101`	`the first offset is like 30`
`20:40.34`	`SoulTaker916_`	`remember ur alligning buttons to the top left of the dialog`
`20:40.37`	`XenoX101`	`just to make a border`
`20:40.41`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ya`
`20:40.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well ur using a variable`
`20:40.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`do a data check on it`
`20:40.57`	`XenoX101`	`I dont see how it could make it`
`20:40.59`	`XenoX101`	`outside of the dialog`
`20:41.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`doesnt hurt to test the data`
`20:41.13`	`XenoX101`	`without using a negative X offset`
`20:41.19`	`XenoX101`	`how do I do that`
`20:41.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`text message action`
`20:41.35`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and just convert the int to text`
`20:41.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and display`
`20:43.06`	`XenoX101`	`oh nah I know the variables are right`
`20:43.09`	`XenoX101`	`I don't change them anywhere`
`20:43.24`	`XenoX101`	`as in they are what they are supposed to be`
`20:43.28`	`XenoX101`	`they may be incorrect but I know what they are`
`20:43.57`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well if the button is attached to the dialog and its outside the dialog`
`20:44.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`then the offset is to blame`
`20:44.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`unless`
`20:44.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ur doing somthign weird`
`20:44.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`elsewere`
`20:44.28`	`SoulTaker916_`	`like`
`20:44.34`	`SoulTaker916_`	`attaching the button`
`20:44.45`	`SoulTaker916_`	`to another dialog somthing`
`20:45.04`	`SoulTaker916_`	`try setting the offset to 0,0`
`20:45.12`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and see it it lock into the top left corner`
`20:45.23`	`SoulTaker916_`	`then we know without a doubt its the offset`
`20:46.10`	`XenoX101`	`oh hm`
`20:46.12`	`XenoX101`	`ohhh`
`20:46.14`	`XenoX101`	`I know what it is`
`20:46.19`	`XenoX101`	`one of the buttons is`
`20:46.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`hm?`
`20:46.21`	`XenoX101`	`on top of the other`
`20:46.26`	`XenoX101`	`not off to the side`
`20:46.37`	`XenoX101`	`because I'm meant to have 3 in a row`
`20:46.41`	`XenoX101`	`I thought that the left one was cut off`
`20:46.45`	`XenoX101`	`but in fact it was`
`20:46.47`	`XenoX101`	`underneath the middle one`
`20:46.51`	`XenoX101`	`I stuffed my trigger up`
`20:46.52`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`20:46.54`	`A1win`	`booyeah, bug fixed o//`
`20:46.56`	`XenoX101`	`all good I know now, ty`
`20:46.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ok`
`20:46.59`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so`
`20:47.08`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im still trying to get this dummy ability to trip`
`20:47.10`	`A1win`	`it existed before, but I guess blizz only recently added that error message so I only saw it now`
`20:47.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the trigger`
`20:47.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but no llick`
`20:47.15`	`SoulTaker916_`	`luck*`
`20:47.42`	`SoulTaker916_`	`07A1win01 ya blizzard upgraded thier messages`
`20:47.51`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i can now figure out were errors are using it`
`20:47.51`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`20:48.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`07A1win01`
`20:48.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i can get this ability to work`
`20:48.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:(`
`20:48.22`	`A1win`	`I don't remember all the steps to make a dummy ability`
`20:48.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`helpz`
`20:48.29`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well`
`20:48.39`	`SoulTaker916_`	`when it's a effect -instant`
`20:48.41`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it works`
`20:48.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i changed it to effect-target`
`20:48.51`	`A1win`	`are you sure you set the effect as (None) ?`
`20:48.55`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and now it doesnt work`
`20:48.55`	`A1win`	`if it's not defined, it won't work`
`20:48.56`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ya`
`20:48.57`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i did`
`20:49.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`effect:effect +: none`
`20:49.36`	`SoulTaker916_`	`all i want to do is be able to call the triggering ability point`
`20:49.55`	`SoulTaker916_`	`frusterating`
`20:50.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`whana see the dummy ability fields?`
`20:50.15`	`SoulTaker916_`	`maybe u can see what im doing wrong?`
`20:50.48`	`SoulTaker916_`	`http://pastebin.com/ryJjVGSx`
`20:51.58`	`A1win`	`I think you need to give it a button and add it to the unit's command card`
`20:52.21`	`A1win`	`can use a card that is never shown but iirc it needs to be there`
`20:52.28`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i added it to the command card`
`20:52.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and its showing`
`20:52.49`	`A1win`	`but the thing you pasted doesn't seem to have any buttons defined?`
`20:52.53`	`SoulTaker916_`	`and the ability has a button`
`20:53.18`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its a subfields for ability:command +`
`20:53.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`right?`
`20:53.37`	`A1win`	`oh, dunno`
`20:53.48`	`A1win`	`it's been long since I did anything with abilities`
`20:53.54`	`A1win`	`been playing WoW for a couple of months ;p`
`20:53.56`	`A1win`	`and doing other stuff`
`20:54.21`	`SoulTaker916_`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/18512-dummy-ability/`
`20:54.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`score...`
`20:56.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`maybe it needs a dummy effect?`
`20:57.27`	`A1win`	`I think I've managed without an effect, but can't be sure`
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`20:58.18`	`SoulTaker916_`	`Vailreth`
`21:00.37`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ahahah`
`21:00.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it works`
`21:00.40`	`SoulTaker916_`	`kinda,,`
`21:08.51`	`XenoX101`	`sigh, sc2 hates me`
`21:08.56`	`XenoX101`	`now all my buttons are on top of eachother`
`21:09.09`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ur math is fked up`
`21:09.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`XD`
`21:09.25`	`XenoX101`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:09.49`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ok thats for one button`
`21:09.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`now it has to change for the next`
`21:10.26`	`XenoX101`	`it uses the same rpbuttonx`
`21:10.29`	`XenoX101`	`so it keeps adding`
`21:11.07`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but does it repeat?`
`21:11.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i dont see any loops`
`21:11.13`	`SoulTaker916_`	`or anything`
`21:11.15`	`XenoX101`	`its in a for loop`
`21:11.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`ok`
`21:11.20`	`XenoX101`	`for the amount of buttons`
`21:11.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`so do a data check with text`
`21:11.32`	`SoulTaker916_`	`make sure the math is working`
`21:12.38`	`XenoX101`	`how`
`21:12.57`	`XenoX101`	`nvm`
`21:13.58`	`Aelie`	`so many of the tutorials on the tutorials page are broken`
`21:14.02`	`Aelie`	`or missing`
`21:17.27`	`XenoX101`	`ok wtf`
`21:17.30`	`XenoX101`	`I had a global variable`
`21:17.32`	`XenoX101`	`idle on its own`
`21:17.37`	`XenoX101`	`with the same name as a local variable`
`21:17.43`	`XenoX101`	`that was the whole problem`
`21:17.45`	`XenoX101`	`fuck that`
`21:17.55`	`XenoX101`	`I have the most organized triggers you can imagine`
`21:17.57`	`XenoX101`	`and this fucken variable`
`21:18.03`	`XenoX101`	`sitting there at the bottom`
`21:19.28`	`XenoX101`	`oh well its fine now at least`
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`21:36.40`	`Dustin`	`Whats the max numbero f text tags that can be showen?`
`21:36.42`	`Dustin`	`Anyone know?`
`21:36.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its more than 30`
`21:36.58`	`SoulTaker916_`	`:P`
`21:37.50`	`HeyRevolver`	`where do i change upgrade resource costs?`
`21:41.31`	`A1win`	`hmm for some reason I have the friends button microphone background image visible even though the actual friends button background is hidden... and it wasn't visible before D:`
`21:41.41`	`A1win`	`before 1.4 that is`
`21:41.48`	`A1win`	`or 1.3, dunno when I last checked this out`
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`21:49.31`	`A1win`	`err... why can I hide BattleNetButtonFriendsFrameImage but not do the same for BattleNetButtonMicrophoneFrameImage`
`21:51.27`	`Aelie`	`http://i.imgur.com/wz2Wj.jpg`
`21:51.57`	`A1win`	`I'll just move it off-screen... meh`
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`21:54.15`	`Aelie`	`now this is just pissing me off`
`22:00.27`	`Dustin`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/trigger-libraries/26250-library-dustins-unit-indexing-dui/#p3`
`22:00.28`	`Dustin`	`Woot`
`22:00.31`	`Dustin`	`Got that released`
`22:02.39`	`Aelie`	`missiiiiiiiiiles`
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`22:20.12`	`Bibendus`	`mm`
`22:20.19`	`Bibendus`	`does the new attach dialog to unit work?`
`22:22.28`	`Dustin`	`yes`
`22:22.52`	`A1win`	`huh, what does that do?`
`22:23.16`	`Bibendus`	`new trigger`
`22:23.20`	`Bibendus`	`u should be able to attach any dialog`
`22:23.21`	`Bibendus`	`to a unit`
`22:23.25`	`Bibendus`	`btw it doesnt work for me`
`22:23.28`	`A1win`	`to 3D space?`
`22:23.31`	`Bibendus`	`ye`
`22:23.35`	`A1win`	`cool D:`
`22:23.38`	`Dustin`	`yeah ti works fine :D`
`22:23.40`	`Bibendus`	`it hsould be like a sprite`
`22:23.57`	`Dustin`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/843426/DialogAttachment.png`
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`22:24.25`	`Bibendus`	`so whats wrong with that`
`22:24.31`	`Bibendus`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:24.31`	`Bibendus`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:24.31`	`Bibendus`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:24.31`	`Bibendus`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:24.31`	`Bibendus`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:24.44`	`Dustin`	`Use Attach Dialog`
`22:24.45`	`Dustin`	`Not move`
`22:24.52`	`Dustin`	`Just like the attack text tag`
`22:24.57`	`Bibendus`	`it's`
`22:24.58`	`Bibendus`	`attach dialog`
`22:25.07`	`Bibendus`	`but the trigger text is different xD`
`22:25.43`	`A1win`	`you sure the unit is specified correctly? D;`
`22:25.54`	`Bibendus`	`btw I see some garbage in the mid of the screen`
`22:25.59`	`Bibendus`	`yep it iz`
`22:26.40`	`Bibendus`	`there are other effects on the unit that work`
`22:27.49`	`Dustin`	`Try origin`
`22:27.54`	`Dustin`	`that's what Im using on mine`
`22:28.33`	`Bibendus`	`http://imageshack.us/f/215/screenshot2011092500405.jpg/`
`22:28.50`	`Bibendus`	`kk`
`22:28.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`22:29.15`	`Bibendus`	`dunno wtf is that`
`22:29.16`	`Bibendus`	`lol`
`22:29.25`	`Bibendus`	`maybe aliens trying to communicate with me`
`22:29.35`	`A1win`	`first part of mech rpg + sidescroller beat'em'up integration done 8]`
`22:29.51`	`Bibendus`	`u can't make a beat em up`
`22:29.57`	`Bibendus`	`I'm the only one that can do that!`
`22:30.00`	`A1win`	`hehe`
`22:30.05`	`A1win`	`well it's not really a beat'em'up`
`22:30.05`	`Bibendus`	`yee origin works`
`22:30.10`	`A1win`	`but looks like one on a glance`
`22:30.24`	`Bibendus`	`thankz dustin`
`22:30.30`	`Dustin`	`np!`
`22:30.30`	`Bibendus`	`the funny thing is that the default is status bar`
`22:30.33`	`Bibendus`	`and the default doesnt work`
`22:30.34`	`Bibendus`	`rofl`
`22:30.40`	`Dustin`	`lol`
`22:30.51`	`Bibendus`	`now let's understand the cool graphic I obtained on my dialog :D`
`22:31.13`	`Bibendus`	`what the hell is that xD`
`22:32.00`	`Bibendus`	`does the editor support pngs?`
`22:32.45`	`Bibendus`	`cuz I hate using tgas`
`22:32.45`	`A1win`	`is it possible to disallow user from even going to the "drag scroll mode" by pressing mouse3, I know I can lock camera movement, but the cursor still disappears when holding mouse3`
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`22:36.03`	`Bibendus`	`oh 24 bit tga was required`
`22:36.43`	`Bibendus`	`but he can just unpress it`
`22:36.46`	`Bibendus`	`to see the mouse again`
`22:36.47`	`Bibendus`	`right?`
`22:37.16`	`A1win`	`yeah`
`22:37.26`	`HeyRevolver`	`where can I remove the armory restriction for lvl 2+ infantry upgrades?`
`22:37.28`	`Bibendus`	`so where is the problem? :D`
`22:37.33`	`A1win`	`it's obsolete :P`
`22:37.41`	`Bibendus`	`i never press mouse 3`
`22:37.42`	`Bibendus`	`;D`
`22:37.51`	`HeyRevolver`	`hey Bibendus`
`22:37.55`	`Bibendus`	`hey`
`22:37.57`	`HeyRevolver`	`hey Bibendus`
`22:37.58`	`HeyRevolver`	`where can I remove the armory restriction for lvl 2+ infantry upgrades?`
`22:38.00`	`A1win`	`I use it all the time`
`22:38.11`	`Bibendus`	`maybe`
`22:38.14`	`Bibendus`	`in the command card`
`22:38.14`	`HeyRevolver`	`armory requirement`
`22:38.19`	`HeyRevolver`	`thank you sir`
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`22:38.24`	`Bibendus`	`i don't use the data editor soo often`
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`22:39.21`	`Dustin`	`Bibendus`
`22:39.28`	`Dustin`	`Can I pwn you in your map yet?`
`22:39.54`	`Bibendus`	`I doubt`
`22:39.58`	`Bibendus`	`the lagg will pwn us all`
`22:39.59`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`22:40.21`	`Bibendus`	`i m making the new units healt UI`
`22:40.32`	`Bibendus`	`with the attach dialog to unit feature`
`22:40.50`	`A1win`	`sleep time`
`22:40.57`	`Dustin`	`Nice, i used it for unit upgrade panels`
`22:41.13`	`Bibendus`	`omfg I hate image formats`
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`22:41.18`	`Bibendus`	`in these fucking blizz editors`
`22:41.54`	`Bibendus`	`so must the images have a multiple of something?`
`22:41.56`	`Bibendus`	`to be valid?`
`22:44.08`	`Dustin`	`if it's dd2`
`22:44.09`	`Dustin`	`dds`
`22:44.17`	`JademusSreg`	`4`
`22:44.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Multiple of 4`
`22:44.38`	`Bibendus`	`112 should be`
`22:44.40`	`Bibendus`	`right?`
`22:45.06`	`Bibendus`	`I hate this shit!`
`22:45.26`	`Bibendus`	`why the hell I see this stupid image`
`22:45.35`	`Bibendus`	`OH YEAH`
`22:45.38`	`Bibendus`	`fuck`
`22:45.39`	`Bibendus`	`i m idiot...`
`22:45.42`	`Bibendus`	`the background type`
`22:46.05`	`Dustin`	`lol`
`22:46.12`	`Bibendus`	`where do i change it`
`22:46.14`	`Bibendus`	`is it the modal thing?`
`22:46.16`	`pirate`	`is it possible to make the game run actions (specifically populate the global data table) while the map is loading?`
`22:46.36`	`Mexa_`	`Bib, you need to contruct the proper image to use as a border`
`22:46.39`	`Mexa_`	`remember:P`
`22:46.39`	`Dustin`	`You cant run triggers untill the map loads`
`22:46.44`	`pirate`	`:(`
`22:46.56`	`Bibendus`	`I don't need`
`22:46.58`	`Bibendus`	`a border`
`22:47.01`	`Bibendus`	`but mm`
`22:47.01`	`Mexa_`	`Bibendus, you can't change the image type of a dialog image`
`22:47.06`	`Bibendus`	`yep`
`22:47.11`	`Bibendus`	`I think I must use an image`
`22:47.15`	`Bibendus`	`and not the background`
`22:47.28`	`Mexa_`	`Must is a harsh word`
`22:47.36`	`pirate`	`cuz atm I have a 2 second immense lag spike after the map loads`
`22:47.53`	`Mexa_`	`But yes, the easiest thing is to set the dialog background invisible, and then have a dialog item image, Bibendus`
`22:47.53`	`pirate`	`because it writes a ton of data to data tables`
`22:48.16`	`Bibendus`	`y`
`22:48.28`	`Bibendus`	`lol`
`22:48.31`	`Bibendus`	`this image is soo weird :D`
`22:49.05`	`Mexa_`	`Jademus, the part where it needs to be a multiply of 4 for width, and a multiple of 8 for height isn't all truly correct`
`22:49.32`	`Mexa_`	`A 4x8 image will look wrong, for instance ;P`
`22:50.07`	`Bibendus`	`lol`
`22:50.12`	`Bibendus`	`minimum required?`
`22:50.22`	`Mexa_`	`I don't know the minimum`
`22:50.28`	`Mexa_`	`But it's not that.`
`22:50.32`	`Mexa_`	`Anywho`
`22:51.00`	`Bibendus`	`so neither a 4 multiple for both height and width`
`22:51.02`	`Bibendus`	`is k`
`22:51.11`	`Mexa_`	`what`
`22:51.13`	`Mexa_`	`is k?`
`22:51.23`	`Bibendus`	`is ok`
`22:51.31`	`Bibendus`	`maybe its a multiple of 12`
`22:51.35`	`Mexa_`	`No`
`22:51.36`	`Bibendus`	`or 8`
`22:51.57`	`Mexa_`	`width - multiply of 4. Height - multiply of 8`
`22:52.04`	`Mexa_`	`I just don't know the minimum requirement`
`22:52.29`	`Mexa_`	`It should logically be that anyways.`
`22:53.16`	`Bibendus`	`omg`
`22:53.22`	`Bibendus`	`unit dialogs`
`22:53.30`	`Bibendus`	`go over the UI`
`22:53.32`	`Mexa_`	`the default is 300x496`
`22:53.32`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`22:53.36`	`Bibendus`	`how can I stop that`
`22:53.41`	`Mexa_`	`lol`
`22:53.47`	`Mexa_`	`Try adjusting the channel`
`22:53.52`	`Bibendus`	`can I change the z index? :D`
`22:54.07`	`Mexa_`	`If the RTT channel is supposingly doing that, then yes`
`22:54.21`	`Mexa_`	`default is 512 I think`
`22:54.26`	`Bibendus`	`what?`
`22:54.46`	`Bibendus`	`i was talking about the fact that dialogs attached to units`
`22:54.54`	`Mexa_`	`irrelevant`
`22:54.56`	`Bibendus`	`show up even when they should be hidden by the game UI`
`22:55.08`	`Mexa_`	`what now?`
`22:55.12`	`Bibendus`	`dunno`
`22:55.13`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`22:55.16`	`Bibendus`	`it seems ridiculous`
`22:55.20`	`Bibendus`	`and the fucking transparency`
`22:55.22`	`Bibendus`	`mmmm grrr`
`22:55.28`	`Mexa_`	`You mean that they show up in front of the user interface?`
`22:55.29`	`Bibendus`	`where did it go`
`22:55.35`	`Bibendus`	`ye`
`22:55.46`	`Mexa_`	`screenshot please:P`
`22:55.55`	`Bibendus`	`quite lolz`
`22:55.56`	`Bibendus`	`doin`
`22:57.10`	`Bibendus`	`http://imageshack.us/f/101/screenshot2011092501102.jpg/`
`22:57.32`	`Mexa_`	`ah:P`
`22:57.40`	`Mexa_`	`Well`
`22:57.49`	`Mexa_`	`Dialogs do display in front of the UI normally`
`22:57.56`	`Mexa_`	`So it makes sense they still do`
`22:57.57`	`Bibendus`	`yep`
`22:58.11`	`Mexa_`	`Though`
`22:58.13`	`Bibendus`	`unfortunately it's a nonsense when they are applied to units`
`22:58.14`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`22:58.27`	`Mexa_`	`You mean the alpha?`
`22:58.35`	`Bibendus`	`ye`
`22:58.40`	`Bibendus`	`i dont remember the correct way`
`22:58.40`	`UloseTheGame`	`I still don't understand this solution jade said :\`
`22:58.46`	`Bibendus`	`for the editors`
`22:58.48`	`UloseTheGame`	`i've been at it all day`
`22:58.49`	`Mexa_`	`Are you sure you just didn't mess upp the tga?`
`22:59.01`	`Bibendus`	`mm nope`
`22:59.05`	`Bibendus`	`now I used the dds`
`22:59.08`	`Bibendus`	`now i ll try again with tga`
`22:59.11`	`UloseTheGame`	`hey Mexa, i wanna ask you something?`
`22:59.19`	`Mexa_`	`shoot`
`22:59.34`	`UloseTheGame`	`When one replaces a unit`
`22:59.37`	`UloseTheGame`	`for exampl`
`22:59.38`	`Bibendus`	`bang`
`22:59.51`	`UloseTheGame`	`when one replaces a vespene geyser with an extractor`
`23:00.00`	`Mexa_`	`Did it work Bib?`
`23:00.09`	`UloseTheGame`	`how does one check which unit is replaced, e.g. the vespene geyser`
`23:00.19`	`Mexa_`	`hum`
`23:00.21`	`UloseTheGame`	`because a rather large problem im having`
`23:00.33`	`UloseTheGame`	`is i want to check what the name of unit that is replaced is`
`23:00.38`	`Bibendus`	`nope`
`23:00.38`	`UloseTheGame`	`and i cant D:`
`23:00.41`	`Bibendus`	`even the tga suckz`
`23:01.00`	`Mexa_`	`Bib, and they look fine if they are not attached?`
`23:01.26`	`Mexa_`	`Hum`
`23:01.35`	`Mexa_`	`I have no idea on that matter UloseTheGame`
`23:01.39`	`UloseTheGame`	`hmmm`
`23:01.42`	`Bibendus`	`no sry`
`23:01.43`	`UloseTheGame`	`shit`
`23:01.47`	`Bibendus`	`I was talking about the alpha channel`
`23:01.51`	`Bibendus`	`its always not transparent`
`23:01.56`	`Mexa_`	`yes?`
`23:02.02`	`Bibendus`	`it's on photoshop but not in the game`
`23:02.07`	`Mexa_`	`So`
`23:02.11`	`Bibendus`	`did the alpha channel need`
`23:02.12`	`Bibendus`	`a special name?`
`23:02.13`	`Mexa_`	`The alpha is gone afetr the export?`
`23:02.21`	`Bibendus`	`yep`
`23:02.24`	`Mexa_`	`I guess you're doing it wrong.`
`23:02.33`	`UloseTheGame`	`I need some help, im rather confused on this matter :\`
`23:02.43`	`Bibendus`	`the alpha`
`23:02.45`	`Bibendus`	`should be black`
`23:02.50`	`Bibendus`	`where you want to show the image`
`23:02.50`	`Mexa_`	`Bib, for tga, did you save it in 32bit targa?`
`23:02.53`	`Bibendus`	`am I correct?`
`23:03.10`	`Bibendus`	`I saved to 24 because 32 showed in black & white :\|`
`23:03.14`	`Mexa_`	`That the alpha is white, I don't think it should matter`
`23:03.22`	`Mexa_`	`Okay`
`23:03.26`	`Mexa_`	`well that's one problem`
`23:03.33`	`Mexa_`	`If you want alpha, you need 32bit targa`
`23:03.44`	`Mexa_`	`since 8bits are used for the alpha layer`
`23:03.57`	`Mexa_`	`without it, it will discard the alpha`
`23:04.37`	`Bibendus`	`mm`
`23:04.39`	`Bibendus`	`and why it was`
`23:04.42`	`Bibendus`	`all black and white`
`23:04.45`	`Bibendus`	`then`
`23:04.50`	`Mexa_`	`at 32bits?`
`23:05.01`	`Mexa_`	`May I take a look at the sorucefile xD?`
`23:05.09`	`Mexa_`	`*source`
`23:05.23`	`Bibendus`	`sure`
`23:06.11`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im having a issue with a dummy ability`
`23:06.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`can someone help me?`
`23:07.20`	`Bibendus`	`http://www.megaupload.com/?d=F2ALLDPX`
`23:07.27`	`Bibendus`	`be more specific`
`23:07.29`	`Bibendus`	`I suck at data editing`
`23:07.32`	`Mexa_`	`omg`
`23:07.35`	`Bibendus`	`but I could know the answer`
`23:07.46`	`Mexa_`	`megashitload`
`23:07.51`	`Bibendus`	`ye i know`
`23:07.54`	`Bibendus`	`gimme something decent xD`
`23:07.58`	`Mexa_`	`get dropbox..`
`23:08.15`	`Bibendus`	`sigh`
`23:08.19`	`SoulTaker916_`	`same here`
`23:08.19`	`Mexa_`	`Oh please, let me refer you to dropbox`
`23:08.24`	`Mexa_`	`And I'll get some free space`
`23:08.25`	`Mexa_`	`.__.`
`23:08.35`	`SoulTaker916_`	`mexa`
`23:08.36`	`Bibendus`	`oh k`
`23:08.43`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im having a issue with a dummy ability`
`23:08.48`	`Bibendus`	`when I install it?`
`23:08.50`	`Bibendus`	`when I register`
`23:08.50`	`Mexa_`	`Besides, I can't open your file from megaupload`
`23:08.56`	`Bibendus`	`when should I insert the referral`
`23:09.01`	`Mexa_`	`I'll link`
`23:09.12`	`Bibendus`	`ye me neither`
`23:09.15`	`Bibendus`	`megaupload suckz :D`
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`23:09.33`	`UloseTheGame`	`fuck i cannot figure this out :\`
`23:09.42`	`Mexa_`	`SoulTaker, in what now?`
`23:09.48`	`UloseTheGame`	`I didn't want a generic faction selection system`
`23:09.59`	`UloseTheGame`	`but im gonna have to use one if this keeps up :(`
`23:10.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the dummy ability`
`23:10.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`it triggering however`
`23:10.14`	`Mexa_`	`Bibendus, http://db.tt/CznOuRD there`
`23:10.14`	`SoulTaker916_`	`its not returning a unit`
`23:10.18`	`Bibendus`	`be more specific soul`
`23:11.01`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i have a dummy ability`
`23:11.10`	`SoulTaker916_`	`that needs to target a unit`
`23:11.30`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the dummy ability does appear to target the unit and the trigger event is activating`
`23:11.31`	`SoulTaker916_`	`however`
`23:11.42`	`Bibendus`	`did it mexa`
`23:11.44`	`SoulTaker916_`	`when i use ability targeting unint call it has nothing`
`23:11.53`	`Mexa_`	`nice, thank you`
`23:12.02`	`Bibendus`	`soul`
`23:12.09`	`Bibendus`	`first tell us what the hell you are trying to do`
`23:12.14`	`Bibendus`	`else its impossible to help u`
`23:12.18`	`Mexa_`	`Tbh SoulTaker, I have little expertice in the editor atm:P`
`23:13.03`	`SoulTaker916_`	`just activate a trigger`
`23:13.06`	`SoulTaker916_`	`with a ability`
`23:13.19`	`Bibendus`	`so`
`23:13.22`	`Bibendus`	`make trigger with event`
`23:13.22`	`SoulTaker916_`	`to do a long series of task on the unit`
`23:13.24`	`SoulTaker916_`	`that work`
`23:13.26`	`Bibendus`	`when ability X is cast`
`23:13.27`	`SoulTaker916_`	`yes`
`23:13.29`	`Bibendus`	`in phase Y`
`23:13.33`	`SoulTaker916_`	`well`
`23:13.36`	`SoulTaker916_`	`that works`
`23:13.38`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the issue is`
`23:13.39`	`Bibendus`	`and where is the prob`
`23:13.54`	`SoulTaker916_`	`i need to be able to do "ability targeting unit" command`
`23:13.59`	`Mexa_`	`Bib, next step is to install it, and complete that:P`
`23:14.08`	`Bibendus`	`doin`
`23:14.12`	`SoulTaker916_`	`the ability starts the trigger`
`23:14.20`	`SoulTaker916_`	`but ability targeting unit is emptie`
`23:17.32`	`Bibendus`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42948506/UnitsHealthCircle.psd`
`23:17.55`	`Bibendus`	`you want to get?`
`23:17.58`	`Bibendus`	`the casting unit`
`23:18.01`	`Mexa_`	`already have`
`23:18.02`	`Bibendus`	`or the target unit?`
`23:18.04`	`Mexa_`	`oh`
`23:18.05`	`Mexa_`	`^^`
`23:18.15`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`23:18.38`	`Bibendus`	`SoulTaker916_,`
`23:20.16`	`Bibendus`	`btw Mexa_ ignore the invisible layers :P`
`23:20.28`	`Mexa_`	`Bib, I think you put the alpha inverted.`
`23:20.39`	`Bibendus`	`that's what I asked to you :D`
`23:20.44`	`Mexa_`	`oh`
`23:20.47`	`Bibendus`	`black or white?`
`23:20.47`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`23:20.50`	`Bibendus`	`so mm`
`23:20.51`	`Mexa_`	`black`
`23:20.52`	`Mexa_`	`:P`
`23:20.54`	`Bibendus`	`now it makes sene!`
`23:20.55`	`Bibendus`	`sense`
`23:21.03`	`Bibendus`	`cuz in 32 bit it wasnt black & white`
`23:21.04`	`Mexa_`	`Ah, I didn't understand quite what you emant before`
`23:21.11`	`Bibendus`	`but it just hided the red thing`
`23:21.13`	`Bibendus`	`mmm`
`23:21.21`	`Bibendus`	`I hope it so`
`23:21.30`	`Mexa_`	`Btw Bib`
`23:21.37`	`Mexa_`	`Did you know you can use png too?`
`23:22.34`	`Mexa_`	`I recall using dds is the fastest though, since it haw native support in the graphics card already`
`23:22.39`	`Mexa_`	`*has`
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`23:24.20`	`Bibendus`	`what the hell`
`23:24.21`	`Bibendus`	`AHAHHA`
`23:24.29`	`Mexa_`	`still wrong?`
`23:24.32`	`Bibendus`	`nope but`
`23:24.36`	`Bibendus`	`I achieved a cool graphic`
`23:24.41`	`Bibendus`	`without asking for it`
`23:24.43`	`Bibendus`	`:P`
`23:24.55`	`Bibendus`	`screening`
`23:25.28`	`Mexa_`	`let me guess, you changed blendmode?`
`23:26.17`	`Bibendus`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42948506/Screenshot2011-09-25%2001_39_42.jpg`
`23:26.19`	`Bibendus`	`nope`
`23:26.20`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`23:26.23`	`Bibendus`	`borders`
`23:26.34`	`Mexa_`	`oh`
`23:26.36`	`Mexa_`	`lol`
`23:26.39`	`Mexa_`	`:>`
`23:27.02`	`Bibendus`	`seems legit`
`23:27.03`	`Bibendus`	`:D`
`23:27.08`	`Dustin`	`Are those supose to be under the miniions?`
`23:27.17`	`Mexa_`	`hm, I'd say the red doesn't fit in under that frame:P`
`23:28.05`	`Bibendus`	`yep`
`23:28.06`	`Bibendus`	`the colors`
`23:28.15`	`Bibendus`	`should be different for each player`
`23:28.18`	`Dustin`	`And god damnit does the main base look like an asshole`
`23:28.20`	`Bibendus`	`the zerg border is cool but unwanted :D`
`23:28.46`	`Dustin`	`looks*`
`23:29.15`	`Bibendus`	`don't u like assholes? :D`
`23:29.19`	`Mexa_`	`haha`
`23:29.43`	`Bibendus`	`mm`
`23:29.46`	`Bibendus`	`can I make an image fit?`
`23:29.49`	`Dustin`	`That's beside the point!`
`23:29.56`	`Bibendus`	`I dont want to resize and re import it :D`
`23:30.05`	`Mexa_`	`it should be able to fit/stretch`
`23:30.08`	`Mexa_`	`if you so desire`
`23:30.29`	`Bibendus`	`let's zee`
`23:30.31`	`Bibendus`	`if it works`
`23:30.32`	`Mexa_`	`just change the item/dialog size`
`23:30.52`	`Mexa_`	`or rather, set the item size to it's parent dialog, and then set the size of the dialog`
`23:31.05`	`Bibendus`	`why a fift one appeared lol`
`23:31.10`	`Bibendus`	`fifth`
`23:31.28`	`Bibendus`	`it disappeared when I alt tabbed`
`23:31.30`	`Bibendus`	`WTF xD`
`23:31.32`	`Bibendus`	`bug!`
`23:31.36`	`Mexa_`	`hm?`
`23:32.00`	`Bibendus`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/42948506/Screenshot2011-09-25%2001_45_59.jpg`
`23:32.04`	`Bibendus`	`do you like it dustin?`
`23:32.30`	`Mexa_`	`Bib, how do you plan to change the health?`
`23:32.38`	`Bibendus`	`the flower`
`23:32.39`	`Mexa_`	`switcing the entire image?`
`23:32.42`	`Bibendus`	`nope`
`23:32.49`	`Bibendus`	`6 images with alpha`
`23:32.50`	`Mexa_`	`or add an overlay I susoect`
`23:32.51`	`Bibendus`	`each`
`23:32.54`	`Mexa_`	`*suspect`
`23:32.57`	`Bibendus`	`mmm no`
`23:32.59`	`Mexa_`	`oh`
`23:33.06`	`Bibendus`	`I was going to manage the 6 parts alone`
`23:33.06`	`Mexa_`	`hm?`
`23:33.11`	`Mexa_`	`Oh`
`23:33.15`	`Dustin`	`hell ya, looks nice`
`23:33.28`	`Bibendus`	`and then use alpha to show and hide them`
`23:33.56`	`Mexa_`	`You know, it will be sufficient if you only have one image consisting one "leaf"`
`23:34.01`	`Mexa_`	`And then just rotate it`
`23:34.16`	`Mexa_`	`would it not?`
`23:34.17`	`Bibendus`	`can I rotate`
`23:34.19`	`Bibendus`	`:O`
`23:34.20`	`Mexa_`	`yes`
`23:34.35`	`Bibendus`	`u mean in photoshop or in game?`
`23:34.41`	`Mexa_`	`Set dialog item rotation`
`23:34.45`	`Bibendus`	`oh`
`23:34.46`	`Bibendus`	`!`
`23:34.49`	`Bibendus`	`lets try`
`23:35.21`	`Mexa_`	`I recall it takes angles`
`23:35.26`	`Bibendus`	`yy`
`23:35.27`	`Bibendus`	`testing`
`23:35.33`	`Bibendus`	`if that works it's cool`
`23:35.34`	`Mexa_`	`Yeah, the argument is an int, so obviously so`
`23:35.42`	`Bibendus`	`and I wasted a lot of time making my picture`
`23:35.42`	`Bibendus`	`xD`
`23:35.47`	`Mexa_`	`:P`
`23:35.53`	`Mexa_`	`pewpewpew`
`23:35.58`	`Bibendus`	`mm yes it rotated`
`23:36.26`	`Bibendus`	`cool`
`23:36.28`	`Bibendus`	`lets make it`
`23:36.58`	`Mexa_`	`omg... this song I am listening to is called 'swimmingfurries'`
`23:37.09`	`Mexa_`	`Silly ocremix is silly`
`23:38.32`	`Mexa_`	`Hey Bibendus, redmarine entirely quit on the dk mod himself, did he not?`
`23:38.50`	`Bibendus`	`yep`
`23:38.52`	`Mexa_`	`Or rather, a pretty while ago?`
`23:39.12`	`Bibendus`	`he just didnt have the time`
`23:39.16`	`Mexa_`	`mm`
`23:39.16`	`Bibendus`	`to continue`
`23:39.21`	`Bibendus`	`u know its quite a long project xD`
`23:39.32`	`Mexa_`	`Totally`
`23:39.35`	`Vailreth`	`some one ping me in the last few hours?`
`23:39.44`	`Mexa_`	`I'm looking forward to it being done, Bib`
`23:45.45`	`Bibendus`	`i m not going to stop the development :D`
`23:45.59`	`Bibendus`	`dungeon keeper respects`
`23:46.03`	`Bibendus`	`deserve respect`
`23:46.18`	`Bibendus`	`and dungeons just blew this respect away`
`23:46.24`	`Mexa_`	`:)`
`23:46.26`	`Bibendus`	`and an expansion is coming out too :\|`
`23:46.34`	`Mexa_`	`Oh`
`23:47.22`	`Mexa_`	`Well, as far as I know, they took the majority of the mechanics of DK, but didn't want to mimic it completely, as they wanted to make it from their own point of view, with own ideas, and to avoid potential lawsuits`
`23:48.11`	`Mexa_`	`But yeah`
`23:48.18`	`Mexa_`	`I liked the DK franchise more too.`
`23:50.45`	`Bibendus`	`ye`
`23:50.48`	`Bibendus`	`unfortunately`
`23:50.54`	`Bibendus`	`they removed the most funny things`
`23:50.58`	`Bibendus`	`and added boring things`
`23:51.13`	`Mexa_`	`oh wells`
`23:51.14`	`Mexa_`	`:p`
`23:51.15`	`Bibendus`	`like training and using your creatures`
`23:51.20`	`Bibendus`	`instead of a stupid single hero`
`23:51.24`	`Bibendus`	`with lame abilities`
`23:51.30`	`Mexa_`	`ah`
`23:51.44`	`Bibendus`	`the good concept was the hero feeding`
`23:51.55`	`Bibendus`	`but they failed in fun`
`23:51.59`	`Bibendus`	`oh and room building`
`23:52.01`	`Bibendus`	`is stupid`
`23:52.16`	`Bibendus`	`just 3-4 types of rooms u must build hundred of times`
`23:52.28`	`Mexa_`	`aw`
`23:52.43`	`Bibendus`	`did you play it?`
`23:53.28`	`Mexa_`	`No, only looked at trailers and gameplays`
`23:53.31`	`Mexa_`	`But it lost my appeal`
`23:54.20`	`Bibendus`	`so you are lucky :D`
`23:54.34`	`Mexa_`	`heh`
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`23:56.07`	`Bibendus`	`mmmm`
`23:56.19`	`Bibendus`	`how do you make a good alpha channel starting from an image?`
`23:56.36`	`Bibendus`	`like black & white + invert`
`23:56.36`	`Mexa_`	`come again?`
`23:56.38`	`Bibendus`	`or something like that`
`23:56.48`	`Bibendus`	`i need to make a good alpha channel`
`23:56.55`	`Bibendus`	`not just black & white`
`23:57.08`	`Bibendus`	`but grayscale`
`23:57.14`	`Mexa_`	`oh`
`23:57.26`	`Mexa_`	`you mean partial alpha`
`23:57.29`	`Bibendus`	`so I don't see bad pixel borders`
`23:57.30`	`Bibendus`	`ye`
`23:57.39`	`Mexa_`	`hmm`
`23:58.49`	`Mexa_`	`where do you want it?`
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`23:59.33`	`Bibendus`	`around the flower petal`
`23:59.36`	`Bibendus`	`the single one`
`23:59.46`	`SoulTaker916_`	`damnit`
`23:59.47`	`SoulTaker916_`	`mexa`
`23:59.52`	`SoulTaker916_`	`im still having the issue`
`23:59.53`	`Mexa_`	`dammit me`

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