| 00:00.19 | Otixa | boopboopbeepboop |
| 00:00.31 | Otixa | ploopboopbeepboop |
| 00:01.53 | Otixa | Also |
| 00:01.56 | Otixa | [02:55] <Dustin> Anyone want to say fuck modding and just work on an actuall game? |
| 00:02.01 | Otixa | Have done ;P |
| 00:02.22 | Mexa_ | Neat, TotalHalibut did a video about trackmania 2 |
| 00:02.24 | Aelie | why are you smackin me |
| 00:02.34 | Otixa | Aelie, why not? ;p |
| 00:02.38 | Dustin | DONT TALK ABOUT TOTALBISCUIT |
| 00:03.03 | Mexa_ | why not Dustin:P? |
| 00:03.12 | Otixa | Aelie, join our band :P |
| 00:03.41 | Dustin | Cause he's a dick |
| 00:03.48 | egod | i do QA during week-end for the video game compagny Frima Studio, they suck hard |
| 00:03.54 | Otixa | We all are, what's yer point? ;p |
| 00:04.28 | Otixa | pats egod |
| 00:04.36 | Otixa | Flash games? :P |
| 00:04.41 | Aelie | how do i add an aura visual to a unit |
| 00:04.42 | egod | pretty much yeah |
| 00:04.54 | Otixa | gets FLASHbacks |
| 00:05.06 | Otixa | Yeah, unfun |
| 00:05.07 | Dustin | I use to work with him at WoWRadio |
| 00:05.11 | egod | im testing a fuking cowboy game on facebook i want to kill myself eachtime i try the tutorial they did, its horrible |
| 00:05.38 | Otixa | Tell em how to make it not suck > ???? > PROFIT |
| 00:06.01 | egod | its a lost cause, its like Farmville but with Cowboys |
| 00:06.09 | egod | horrible |
| 00:06.14 | Otixa | I know how it goes ;/ |
| 00:06.27 | Otixa | Used to work at a small company that does flash games too |
| 00:06.34 | Otixa | Except we didn't have special QA people |
| 00:06.43 | Otixa | We had to test... everything... |
| 00:06.49 | egod | lol thats uck |
| 00:06.55 | Dustin | I want to make a DBZ mod for Minecraft |
| 00:07.06 | Dustin | WHere you your lasers blow up ground |
| 00:07.13 | Dustin | and knocking people through mountains |
| 00:07.16 | Otixa | http://www.zaribagames.com/ |
| 00:07.19 | Dustin | Thatd be sick |
| 00:07.22 | Otixa | "THE BEST FLASH GAMES" |
| 00:08.07 | egod | Dustin, can i just give you my zelda map and you do magic ? :D |
| 00:08.26 | RipperRoo | hey dustin :) |
| 00:08.26 | Vailreth | Dustin, when knocked through a mountain would you collect blocks as the crash through? |
| 00:08.41 | Dustin | Id disabele block mining |
| 00:08.46 | Vailreth | as you |
| 00:08.47 | Dustin | and just use the destructable terrain |
| 00:08.52 | Vailreth | ah poo |
| 00:08.54 | Dustin | And focus on fighting modification |
| 00:09.14 | Dustin | Imagine powering up and blocks are flying up from around you |
| 00:09.28 | Otixa | I dislike Minecraft ¬¬ |
| 00:09.51 | Vailreth | i dislike the endermen in minecraft |
| 00:09.51 | Dustin | This wouldnt be minecraft anymore persay |
| 00:10.05 | Otixa | I still disapprove tho |
| 00:10.08 | Dustin | itd be a fighting mod in theminecraft engine |
| 00:10.15 | Otixa | Last I checked it was 2011 |
| 00:10.17 | Dustin | Im gonna do it |
| 00:10.19 | egod | HEAD HUNTER 20$ poker starting in 5 mins, time to WIN some money |
| 00:10.22 | Dustin | Time to learn java |
| 00:10.30 | Otixa | And graphics in games were almost indistinguishable from the real world |
| 00:10.41 | Otixa | Then you get Minecraft |
| 00:10.48 | Otixa | Where the pixels are the size of your face |
| 00:10.48 | Dustin | Its a retro theme |
| 00:10.54 | Dustin | I love the art style |
| 00:11.00 | Otixa | I duncare |
| 00:11.08 | Otixa | As a graphic designer, it makes me angry >:| |
| 00:11.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zoxc (Zoxc@ti0128a380-dhcp0301.bb.online.no) |
| 00:11.28 | Vailreth | as a graphic desiger ( out of work) i love it |
| 00:11.33 | egod | 2D game are the best |
| 00:11.35 | Dustin | It takes skill to make stuff look good with that little pixel count |
| 00:11.45 | Otixa | True |
| 00:11.57 | Otixa | But it still looks quite crap |
| 00:12.28 | Dustin | It looks gorgeous |
| 00:12.47 | Dustin | Just becasue the pixel count is low on purpose doesnt mean it's crudely made |
| 00:13.21 | egod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVX2EVVwUuw |
| 00:13.24 | Otixa | Neh, iunno |
| 00:13.28 | Otixa | I still dislike it |
| 00:13.43 | Otixa | lol egod :D |
| 00:14.35 | egod | Zelda a link to the past was made in 1992 hmmm i was |
| 00:14.58 | *** join/#sc2mapster Phlebotomy (4b2498ca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.36.152.202) |
| 00:15.17 | Vailreth | quick every one guard your blood |
| 00:15.32 | Otixa | has no blood |
| 00:15.34 | Otixa | :| |
| 00:15.50 | Phlebotomy | it's your knowledge of requirements I am interested in, you can keep your blood |
| 00:15.53 | Phlebotomy | ...for now |
| 00:16.05 | Otixa | stabs Phlebotomy |
| 00:16.09 | Aelie | timecat |
| 00:16.12 | Aelie | got a bit? |
| 00:16.14 | Otixa | Do I win? ;o |
| 00:16.24 | Vailreth | what do you want to know about them? |
| 00:17.01 | Phlebotomy | Command card is ful, want to only show Cancel button when there is something to cancel |
| 00:17.23 | Otixa | uses the whammy bar to produce soul-churning sounds and cackles |
| 00:18.06 | Otixa | now has a headache ;/ |
| 00:18.11 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 00:19.07 | Vailreth | i think i see a way to do that |
| 00:20.07 | Aelie | anyone want to help me test for a bit? |
| 00:20.17 | Otixa | I'll help :B |
| 00:20.22 | Otixa | Except you're NA |
| 00:20.24 | Aelie | yeah |
| 00:20.25 | Otixa | YOU'RE THE ENEMY |
| 00:20.29 | Aelie | no u |
| 00:20.31 | Otixa | According to Blizz |
| 00:20.40 | Otixa | Actually, I do have an NA account |
| 00:20.43 | Otixa | Just not the client |
| 00:20.47 | Aelie | psh |
| 00:20.51 | Aelie | dont tell me that |
| 00:20.58 | Aelie | ill bug you until you get the client |
| 00:21.04 | Otixa | ._. |
| 00:21.20 | Phlebotomy | Show>Less Than>Count Unit Name Queued>Constant 1 - BOOM |
| 00:21.34 | Phlebotomy | Vail, you're my muse |
| 00:22.00 | Vailreth | um okay.. |
| 00:22.15 | Otixa | It's Failreth |
| 00:22.19 | Otixa | Get it right ;p |
| 00:22.31 | Vailreth | it is not Failreth |
| 00:22.38 | Otixa | Prove it! |
| 00:22.43 | Vailreth | .. |
| 00:22.45 | Phlebotomy | I think you're just swell |
| 00:22.46 | Vailreth | <-- |
| 00:22.53 | Vailreth | see starts with a V |
| 00:22.54 | Otixa | >:| |
| 00:23.04 | Otixa | Not to me it doesn't :D |
| 00:23.13 | Otixa | cackles |
| 00:23.30 | Vailreth | ok from now on i will read Otixa as Loser |
| 00:23.40 | Aelie | poke pokes timecat |
| 00:23.45 | Aelie | see the thing is |
| 00:23.47 | Otixa | That's not even remotely close ;p |
| 00:23.51 | Vailreth | but anyway |
| 00:23.52 | Aelie | otixa is not one letter from loser |
| 00:23.55 | Otixa | All I did was change 1 letter! |
| 00:23.59 | Aelie | vailreth is one letter from failreth |
| 00:24.01 | egod | im 1st place in my poker game, its looking good |
| 00:24.08 | Otixa | cheers egod on |
| 00:24.13 | Vailreth | very true |
| 00:24.16 | Otixa | Show no mercy to the enemy! |
| 00:24.35 | Otixa | Also |
| 00:24.36 | Vailreth | how about Otixi? |
| 00:24.44 | Otixa | It just occured to me |
| 00:24.53 | Aelie | but that isnt an insult |
| 00:24.53 | Vailreth | hmm soulds like some sort of otter pixie |
| 00:24.53 | Aelie | :p |
| 00:25.04 | Otixa | When you pronounce Aelie it says "I lie"! :O |
| 00:25.07 | Otixa | YOU LIE!!! |
| 00:25.11 | Otixa | @_. |
| 00:25.11 | Aelie | oonly if you pronounce it wrong |
| 00:25.29 | Otixa | :B |
| 00:25.35 | Vailreth | i live in texas |
| 00:25.36 | Vailreth | u pronounce everything wrong |
| 00:25.43 | Otixa | xD |
| 00:25.46 | Vailreth | its a citizenship requirement |
| 00:25.50 | Vailreth | i |
| 00:26.02 | Otixa | shakes head at Vailreth |
| 00:26.11 | Otixa | OH OH |
| 00:26.18 | Otixa | I was working on a circus tent model |
| 00:26.22 | Otixa | Like... 5 hours ago |
| 00:26.27 | Otixa | ...And got sidetracked... A bit |
| 00:26.29 | Otixa | >> |
| 00:26.35 | Otixa | opens 3ds max |
| 00:27.42 | Vailreth | psh Max is for hipsters real Hard core No Frills modelers use Blender.. because its free |
| 00:27.46 | Vailreth | and they are broke |
| 00:27.49 | Otixa | ... ;/ |
| 00:28.05 | Otixa | Uni is handing out licenses for free ;p |
| 00:28.13 | Otixa | Also, you can email Autodesk to get one free |
| 00:28.21 | Vailreth | i have one |
| 00:28.30 | Otixa | Well, stop bitching then :D |
| 00:28.38 | Otixa | Max is way better than Bender ;p |
| 00:28.42 | Vailreth | sorry i should have said |
| 00:28.53 | Vailreth | </sarcasam> |
| 00:29.11 | Otixa | pats Vailreth |
| 00:29.15 | Otixa | So like |
| 00:29.23 | Otixa | Max decided to corrupt my save file again |
| 00:29.29 | Aelie | poke pokes timecat |
| 00:29.33 | Vailreth | but i thought you would have caught on with the and they are broke part |
| 00:29.35 | Otixa | The urge to punch the screen is overwhelming |
| 00:29.58 | Otixa | It's 3am ;P |
| 00:30.03 | Otixa | is slow |
| 00:30.03 | Vailreth | ah |
| 00:30.37 | Otixa | great |
| 00:30.50 | Otixa | The autoback is from like 3 hours before it crashed |
| 00:30.51 | Otixa | ¬¬ |
| 00:31.12 | Vailreth | happy trails to your sanity |
| 00:31.21 | Vailreth | its about to leave you |
| 00:32.23 | Otixa | Well, I'm only doing the model for fun |
| 00:32.27 | Otixa | So it's not too bad |
| 00:32.35 | Otixa | but still, annoying ¬¬ |
| 00:34.42 | Vailreth | well i see |
| 00:36.24 | timecat | what is that ¬¬ supposed to be |
| 00:37.23 | Mexa_ | http://www.fz.se/filmer/20110915/trackmania-2-launch-trailer/ |
| 00:39.37 | SoulTaker916_ | http://pastebin.com/tGD8hL9n |
| 00:39.44 | SoulTaker916_ | can some one help me figure otu why it doesnt work? |
| 00:40.59 | timecat | what are you trying to do? |
| 00:41.39 | SoulTaker916_ | sort ranking |
| 00:41.48 | Mexa_ | (And if someone is going to watch that trailer, "Visa högupplöst" means "Watch in high quality") |
| 00:41.54 | Mexa_ | up and away! |
| 00:42.12 | timecat | i'd ask jade about banks |
| 00:42.14 | timecat | he knows more than i do |
| 00:43.34 | timecat | aelie y u poke me D: |
| 00:43.37 | Otixa | timecat, ¬_¬ |
| 00:43.43 | Aelie | i want you to test my map with me |
| 00:43.45 | timecat | what is that face |
| 00:43.49 | timecat | i don't see anything in it |
| 00:43.53 | timecat | aelie: you on NA? |
| 00:43.58 | Aelie | its the shifty eye face |
| 00:43.59 | Aelie | i am |
| 00:44.03 | timecat | timecat///317 |
| 00:44.06 | Otixa | Annoyed shifty eye face |
| 00:46.53 | timecat | aelie you coming? |
| 00:47.22 | Aelie | timecat: add me, arieswind 363 |
| 00:54.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster RipperRoo (~RipperRoo@pC19F7E37.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:59.06 | Aelie | timecat: i upped the time between rounds to 45s |
| 00:59.15 | timecat | ok |
| 00:59.34 | timecat | do you know any programming languages? |
| 00:59.49 | Aelie | many |
| 00:59.56 | timecat | ok just checking |
| 01:00.15 | Aelie | my day job is software engineer, so |
| 01:00.20 | Aelie | id hope i knew some languages |
| 01:00.25 | timecat | heh |
| 01:01.12 | Aelie | so theres this bug that happens every so often |
| 01:01.15 | Aelie | where i go to build |
| 01:01.20 | Aelie | and it takes the gas |
| 01:01.24 | Aelie | and doesnt build the building |
| 01:02.46 | timecat | huh |
| 01:02.58 | timecat | thats weird |
| 01:03.01 | timecat | only sometimes? |
| 01:03.04 | Otixa | Heeeey |
| 01:03.10 | Otixa | This tent is starting to look good :B |
| 01:03.39 | Aelie | yeah |
| 01:03.41 | Aelie | like |
| 01:03.48 | Aelie | it'll work fine for entire games |
| 01:03.49 | Otixa | scratches chin |
| 01:03.54 | Aelie | and then every so often it happens |
| 01:03.55 | timecat | otixa: screenshots |
| 01:04.01 | Otixa | Aelie, know C#/XNA? :D |
| 01:04.06 | Otixa | timecat, it's not done yet :< |
| 01:04.10 | Aelie | those two, no |
| 01:04.23 | Otixa | Needs moar shape definition |
| 01:04.29 | Otixa | Aelie, Java? ;p |
| 01:04.32 | Aelie | c, c++, java, php, mysql, yes |
| 01:04.48 | Otixa | C# is pretty much the same thing as Java |
| 01:04.51 | Otixa | We're good to go! |
| 01:05.10 | Otixa | Let's make shiny shit! |
| 01:05.43 | Aelie | ...? |
| 01:06.06 | Otixa | Games |
| 01:06.07 | Otixa | Pewpew |
| 01:06.15 | Aelie | im not making a game in c# |
| 01:06.26 | Otixa | Also, what do you peeps think? More definition on the stripes on the bottom part? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/misc/doubleMisc/TentThing.jpg |
| 01:06.46 | Otixa | But Xbox marketplace! |
| 01:06.49 | Otixa | Monew pew? |
| 01:06.52 | timecat | needs more dinosaurs |
| 01:06.52 | Otixa | Money* |
| 01:07.11 | Aelie | most xbox market place games make no monies |
| 01:07.29 | Otixa | Because they look like they're made by 5 year olds ;p |
| 01:08.09 | Otixa | So yeah, more definition on stripes? ._. |
| 01:13.21 | Aelie | timecat: how do i make this model disappear after i attach it |
| 01:13.42 | timecat | send actor message(destroy) |
| 01:14.21 | timecat | make sure to save the actor somewhere when you create it |
| 01:14.58 | Aelie | ah |
| 01:15.20 | Aelie | i cant use "send actor message via name" |
| 01:15.36 | timecat | you can |
| 01:15.41 | timecat | idk how it works tho |
| 01:16.00 | timecat | tbh i'd just loop through all of the actors and destroy them |
| 01:16.00 | Aelie | or set this up in the data editor via events? |
| 01:16.08 | timecat | yea you could do it that way |
| 01:16.28 | timecat | create the actor when you build the gem |
| 01:16.34 | timecat | and then use a dummy effect to destroy it |
| 01:19.00 | Mexa_ | hmhmhm |
| 01:23.12 | Mexa_ | Do anyone recall how many dialogs you were able to have max in sc2? |
| 01:25.15 | Aelie | haha |
| 01:25.18 | Aelie | that is super slick |
| 01:27.01 | Aelie | does make it a bit hard to see the gem tho |
| 01:36.41 | SoulTaker916_ | jade |
| 01:42.11 | Otixa | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/misc/doubleMisc/TentThing2.jpg |
| 01:42.12 | Otixa | :D |
| 01:48.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster HeyRevolver (~HeyRevolv@cpe-174-096-055-224.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 01:49.54 | Otixa | smacks HeyRevolver |
| 01:50.17 | HeyRevolver | why hello there |
| 01:50.33 | HeyRevolver | are you stoked for diablo 3? |
| 01:51.11 | Otixa | Not so much |
| 01:51.18 | Otixa | Fucking Xaragoth got into beta |
| 01:51.25 | Otixa | And said there's only an hour worth of content |
| 01:51.28 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 01:51.45 | HeyRevolver | i am stoked |
| 01:52.12 | Otixa | pats HeyRevolver |
| 01:52.16 | Otixa | oh ffs |
| 01:52.20 | Otixa | It's 5AM ¬¬ |
| 01:52.37 | SoulTaker916_ | need help with sorting arrays |
| 01:52.40 | Otixa | Was 3 just a few minutes ago ;/ |
| 01:52.41 | SoulTaker916_ | too compelx for my dumb self |
| 01:52.51 | Otixa | Bubblesort > profit |
| 01:53.02 | SoulTaker916_ | bubble sort? |
| 01:53.08 | Otixa | Teh googles |
| 01:54.30 | Otixa | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_sort |
| 01:54.45 | SoulTaker916_ | playing elder scrolls |
| 01:54.48 | SoulTaker916_ | ill chekc that out |
| 01:58.10 | Mexa_ | bubble sort, seriously? |
| 01:58.14 | Mexa_ | That's garbage |
| 01:58.33 | Mexa_ | At least slap it up a notch and do a selection sort |
| 01:59.09 | Mexa_ | Or even better, something even more effiecient... |
| 01:59.21 | Mexa_ | But selection sort should due if it's not too much to sort. |
| 01:59.56 | Otixa | Was the first thing that came to mind ;p |
| 01:59.59 | SoulTaker916_ | i have [7][50] |
| 02:00.08 | Mexa_ | so, 350 elements? |
| 02:00.10 | Otixa | Doubt he'll need it for something overly complex anyway |
| 02:00.16 | SoulTaker916_ | and from those blocks i need 50 of the top scores |
| 02:00.52 | SoulTaker916_ | with no duplicates |
| 02:00.56 | Mexa_ | 'those blocks' are what in particular? |
| 02:01.12 | SoulTaker916_ | 7 player's 50 top rankers |
| 02:01.18 | SoulTaker916_ | thats needs to be sorted and reloaded |
| 02:01.22 | SoulTaker916_ | no duplicates |
| 02:01.23 | Otixa | yawns so wide his jaw almost pops out |
| 02:01.30 | Mexa_ | And also removed from uplicates... I see |
| 02:01.33 | Otixa | yawning hurts ;/ |
| 02:01.35 | Mexa_ | *dup |
| 02:01.44 | SoulTaker916_ | ya |
| 02:02.04 | Otixa | so just sort shit and add an if |
| 02:02.06 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 02:02.07 | Mexa_ | I assume the dublicates to be removed is the ones with a lower score? |
| 02:02.09 | SoulTaker916_ | do i have 3 coresponding [7][50] |
| 02:02.14 | SoulTaker916_ | only one needs to be sorted |
| 02:02.27 | Mexa_ | huh |
| 02:02.30 | SoulTaker916_ | and make sure that theres only one id |
| 02:02.36 | SoulTaker916_ | no |
| 02:02.49 | SoulTaker916_ | i dont want the top score in slot 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 |
| 02:02.50 | Otixa | I think he's trolling ;p |
| 02:02.54 | SoulTaker916_ | 1 player one slot |
| 02:03.09 | Otixa | Either that or I'm too sleepy for this to make any sense |
| 02:03.14 | Otixa | ...Or both |
| 02:03.24 | SoulTaker916_ | im not fking trolling u damn forienger |
| 02:03.31 | Mexa_ | lol |
| 02:03.45 | Mexa_ | Says one who don't spell properly either ;) |
| 02:03.55 | Otixa | See, now I have a reason not to help you |
| 02:03.56 | SoulTaker916_ | ya |
| 02:03.59 | SoulTaker916_ | w/e |
| 02:04.06 | Otixa | Saves me the trouble of having to make one up ;p |
| 02:04.24 | SoulTaker916_ | 01http://pastebin.com/tGD8hL9n01 |
| 02:04.28 | SoulTaker916_ | heres what i got so far |
| 02:04.35 | SoulTaker916_ | altho i never really sorted before |
| 02:04.48 | SoulTaker916_ | usaly there would be a funtion i could add do to it for me |
| 02:04.59 | SoulTaker916_ | or a sql statement |
| 02:05.20 | Mexa_ | heh |
| 02:05.29 | Mexa_ | That would have been something, wouldn't it |
| 02:05.43 | Aelie | timecat: i changed it to 2 minutes between rounds, but it starts automatically when all players have picked a gem |
| 02:06.02 | Mexa_ | SoulTaker, I'll have to leave you thinking about it, I need to go to bed |
| 02:06.15 | SoulTaker916_ | kk |
| 02:06.20 | SoulTaker916_ | im takign a break from it |
| 02:06.21 | Mexa_ | And it was too much code for me atm anyways :> |
| 02:06.26 | SoulTaker916_ | i was getting suidcidal for a second |
| 02:06.30 | Mexa_ | *GUI* |
| 02:06.41 | SoulTaker916_ | ya i am using gui |
| 02:06.46 | SoulTaker916_ | if i wasnt ill be dead |
| 02:06.53 | SoulTaker916_ | gui makes it look so organized ^.^ |
| 02:07.02 | Mexa_ | God no, not in the pastebin |
| 02:07.22 | Aelie | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=tGD8hL9n |
| 02:07.24 | Aelie | try that |
| 02:07.26 | SoulTaker916_ | crime against god eh? |
| 02:07.46 | Mexa_ | Lets substitute god with something else then |
| 02:07.52 | Mexa_ | I wasn't trying to be religious. |
| 02:08.05 | Aelie | the god of programming? |
| 02:08.23 | SoulTaker916_ | oh u mean my penis? |
| 02:08.27 | Aelie | sure |
| 02:08.28 | SoulTaker916_ | ya pritty good at it |
| 02:08.29 | Aelie | why not |
| 02:08.33 | Mexa_ | Anyways, with the proper identation guidelines, galaxy code would be much more readable |
| 02:08.37 | SoulTaker916_ | i wack it on the keyboardand shit just works |
| 02:08.50 | Mexa_ | And the pastebin would actually provide syntax highlighting |
| 02:09.14 | Mexa_ | Ah yeah Aelie, it was cleaner |
| 02:11.49 | Otixa | groans |
| 02:12.07 | Otixa | To sleep or not to sleep |
| 02:12.18 | Otixa | Gardeners and maid coming in 6 hours ;/ |
| 02:12.27 | SoulTaker916_ | lol.. |
| 02:12.28 | Xaragoth | http://youtu.be/MGJbgOVj1aM |
| 02:12.29 | Xaragoth | watch this |
| 02:12.35 | SoulTaker916_ | hey which of u guys isnt north american? |
| 02:12.48 | Otixa | Xaragoth, I thought yer sleeping ;p |
| 02:12.54 | Xaragoth | nah |
| 02:14.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mexa_ (~Mexa@80.78.216.115) |
| 02:15.01 | Otixa | Xaragoth, awesome :D |
| 02:18.01 | Otixa | Right, fuck it |
| 02:18.04 | Otixa | Sleep time |
| 02:18.27 | HeyRevolver | MARBLES! |
| 02:18.37 | Otixa | hits HeyRevolver with a brick |
| 02:18.42 | Otixa | Fix'd |
| 02:18.49 | Otixa | Anyway, night nubs |
| 02:27.40 | timecat | nubs? |
| 02:27.49 | timecat | nubs at what |
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| 03:07.49 | Aelie | timecat |
| 03:07.51 | Aelie | another go? |
| 03:10.55 | Aelie | or anyone whos in NA and wants to help test |
| 03:22.15 | Aelie | coming timecat? |
| 03:22.16 | timecat | working on my map atm |
| 03:22.24 | Aelie | oh |
| 03:22.59 | timecat | and a friend is gonna host my changelog online!! |
| 03:23.05 | Aelie | too bad |
| 03:23.15 | Aelie | i added those descriptions |
| 03:23.19 | Aelie | they look pretty nice |
| 03:23.39 | timecat | mm |
| 03:24.18 | Aelie | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/epic-fail-photos-accurate-pass-fail.gif |
| 03:24.55 | Aelie | want to see timecat? abot to start a game |
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| 04:07.32 | Vailreth | i am thinking of a map where players can assign Commanders to their forces and these commanders will be AI's that command units and structures in an area around them.. |
| 04:08.04 | Vailreth | any one know if any one has done or atemted this before? |
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| 07:55.54 | Otixa | Ugh |
| 07:55.57 | Otixa | Mornin |
| 08:06.07 | SoulTaker916_ | lol |
| 08:06.11 | SoulTaker916_ | im off to bed |
| 08:06.38 | SoulTaker916_ | vailreth |
| 08:07.10 | SoulTaker916_ | i asked blizzard back in beta to put in ai behavior modding. the suggestion didnt go over well |
| 08:07.18 | SoulTaker916_ | i dont think this would be possible |
| 08:19.42 | Otixa | looks over Aelie's shoulder |
| 08:19.45 | Otixa | Shiny? |
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| 12:53.29 | MindWorX | Can anyone recommend a simple free tool for cutting up a MP3, and removing unnessecary parts? |
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| 12:59.16 | Nash|327 | audacity |
| 12:59.39 | MindWorX | Neat, I'll give it a shot |
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| 13:08.42 | HeyRevolver | yeah audacity is great, easy interface and great for editing |
| 13:09.00 | HeyRevolver | not so great for effects and everything else, though =P |
| 13:11.37 | MindWorX | I just need to remove the last part of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWM2joNb9NE |
| 13:11.38 | MindWorX | :P |
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| 14:33.02 | munky9001 | latest map change on galaxy vampirism has created OP as shit bases |
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| 15:37.29 | Aelie | Dustin |
| 15:37.30 | Aelie | :O |
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| 15:38.26 | Mexa_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMFE7C5y9Zwlol |
| 15:38.30 | Mexa_ | I mean http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMFE7C5y9Zw |
| 15:38.32 | Mexa_ | and lol |
| 15:38.33 | Mexa_ | ._. |
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| 15:52.47 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 15:52.59 | Aelie | JademusSreg: :O |
| 15:54.53 | JademusSreg | Mexa, that is just too awkward to watch. |
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| 16:22.36 | Aelie | http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/epic-fail-photos-accurate-pass-fail.gif |
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| 16:22.58 | JademusSreg | Classic. |
| 16:23.07 | Aelie | i know |
| 16:23.11 | Aelie | that pass is amazing |
| 16:23.24 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 16:25.54 | Aelie | the way the girl's head pops back is comical |
| 16:26.12 | JademusSreg | It's pure slap stick. |
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| 16:26.45 | Aelie | JademusSreg: want to test my map? |
| 16:30.34 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 16:30.50 | Aelie | sc name? |
| 16:31.13 | JademusSreg | Join me in my Photon Cycles channel. (I use the same handle everywhere.) |
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| 16:41.17 | Mexa_ | Jadmues, you there? |
| 16:41.23 | Mexa_ | *Jademus |
| 16:42.31 | Mexa_ | Jademus, did you once tell me there is a dialog limit? |
| 16:55.15 | Hati | ~seen Helral |
| 16:55.25 | purl | helral <~Helral.EU@217-19-29-249.dsl.cambrium.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 37d 2h 38m 35s ago, saying: 'mission accomplished'. |
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| 17:04.21 | merlinludwig2 | speaking of dialogs...im gonna make a custom ui for my map. |
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| 17:04.40 | merlinludwig2 | but...i figured out a way to only use 1 dialog |
| 17:05.53 | merlinludwig2 | fullscreened, no background...do everything with items (panels) |
| 17:07.12 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 17:07.52 | JademusSreg | There isn't exactly a dialog limit, but destroyed dialogs / dialog controls don't get their ids recycled. |
| 17:08.34 | JademusSreg | So if you create something over 4 million dialogs / controls over the course of a map, you may get an int overflow. |
| 17:08.48 | merlinludwig2 | wouldnt that cause potential memory leak? |
| 17:09.49 | JademusSreg | Depends entirely on how it's handled internally. |
| 17:10.20 | JademusSreg | All we're seeing are the references to the dialogs / controls as int values. |
| 17:10.31 | merlinludwig2 | solution...reuse the same dialog/controls, modify them per use, make new only if ur out |
| 17:11.16 | JademusSreg | Even in maps that do regularly create and destroy dialogs, it would take a while to hit the int limit. |
| 17:11.35 | JademusSreg | Though it's easy to test, if youl ike. |
| 17:12.02 | JademusSreg | Make a map that creates and destroys a 250 k dialogs / controls per tick. |
| 17:12.08 | JademusSreg | Per tick per thread. |
| 17:12.48 | JademusSreg | Though if you want it to output, make it 100k. |
| 17:13.06 | JademusSreg | Since the thread op limit is something around a million ops. |
| 17:15.18 | Mexa_ | I already know that about 2000 visible dialogs will cause the game to stay at 1 fps |
| 17:15.23 | Mexa_ | ;P |
| 17:15.56 | Mexa_ | So, if one is planning to have overly many dialogs, the game will be affected more performancewise due to rendering issues, rather than memory issues. |
| 17:16.36 | Aelie | who needs 2000 visible dialogs tho |
| 17:16.45 | Mexa_ | You don't |
| 17:17.01 | Mexa_ | I was stresstesting in consideration of my own dialog designer tool |
| 17:19.31 | JademusSreg | Ah, neat. |
| 17:21.02 | Mexa_ | I also realized that it is stupid as a user to set the layer property of a dialog and dialog items |
| 17:21.27 | Mexa_ | It's so much faster to create them in order of when they should be drawn |
| 17:21.51 | Mexa_ | Eases the time for the engine to sort them |
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| 18:55.17 | Dustin|Alt | Sup Aelie |
| 19:00.03 | Aelie | sup dustin |
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| 19:00.23 | AppleOTemp | I WANNA GO TO SKYRIM |
| 19:01.49 | Aelie | i cant figure out how to do these special gems |
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| 20:18.04 | merlinludwig2 | sigh, anyone good at creating custom models? |
| 20:19.22 | merlinludwig2 | i want pieces that i can put together via triggers to form new units...prob never gonna happen though. |
| 20:19.52 | merlinludwig2 | i'll stick with what we got for now and try to make it look as good as possible |
| 20:23.27 | merlinludwig2 | theoretically it should be easy, i just need to figure out how to cut pieces of of models and turn the pieces into models themselves, anybody know how i could do that? |
| 20:26.10 | Bibendus | hummmmmmm |
| 20:26.21 | Bibendus | is it possible to add veterancy (exp points) using triggers? |
| 20:28.24 | JademusSreg | Should be. |
| 20:28.29 | JademusSreg | It's a unit property, iirc. |
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| 20:38.49 | Bibendus | oh! |
| 20:38.50 | Bibendus | tx |
| 20:38.51 | Bibendus | lets see |
| 20:39.49 | Bibendus | yep |
| 20:39.51 | Bibendus | experience |
| 20:39.51 | Bibendus | :p |
| 20:39.54 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 20:40.01 | Bibendus | and i think i saw it before but I rly didn't care |
| 20:40.02 | Bibendus | at the moment |
| 20:40.05 | Mexa_ | Hey guys |
| 20:40.12 | JademusSreg | Hi Mexa. |
| 20:40.13 | Bibendus | hey mex |
| 20:40.28 | Mexa_ | I had this carzy idea to make a 2D game engine based entirely on dialog components |
| 20:40.32 | Mexa_ | Thoughts xD? |
| 20:40.53 | Mexa_ | *crazy |
| 20:40.53 | JademusSreg | I like it. |
| 20:41.02 | Mexa_ | :> |
| 20:41.20 | Mexa_ | As a mere kind of proof of concept |
| 20:41.25 | JademusSreg | Of course. =D |
| 20:42.03 | Mexa_ | Considering too many dialogs may lag the game, it might work better if they were the only ones rendered |
| 20:42.26 | Mexa_ | Well it would be fun to do something like it anyhow:P |
| 20:43.52 | Mexa_ | Zugzugzug |
| 20:43.54 | JademusSreg | What default image formats does C# support displaying? |
| 20:44.05 | Mexa_ | jpg, png, bmp and ico I think |
| 20:44.09 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 20:44.23 | JademusSreg | Png supports alpha transparency, right? |
| 20:44.26 | Mexa_ | If you are talking about System.Drawing.Image? |
| 20:44.31 | Mexa_ | Yes |
| 20:44.33 | JademusSreg | Good. |
| 20:45.02 | Mexa_ | And other than that, it has support for a color to validate as transparency |
| 20:45.17 | Mexa_ | Commonly Magenta, but it's up to the user |
| 20:45.28 | JademusSreg | I'm making a program for my youngest daughter that will provide feedback to key presses in the form of sounds and pictures. |
| 20:45.41 | Mexa_ | oh? |
| 20:45.48 | Mexa_ | I see |
| 20:45.50 | JademusSreg | I figure it will be some good practice. |
| 20:46.05 | Mexa_ | As long as you don't resize the app on runtime very often, it should go pretty smooth |
| 20:46.07 | Mexa_ | :P |
| 20:46.30 | JademusSreg | I intend to set it to fullscreen and let her mash on the keyboard. |
| 20:46.33 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 20:46.38 | Mexa_ | You could otherwise use the windows presentation foundation instead of windows forms:P |
| 20:46.48 | Mexa_ | ah |
| 20:46.49 | Mexa_ | ^^ |
| 20:48.54 | Mexa_ | Ah, Jadmeus, System.Drawing.Image supports bmp, gif, jpeg, exif, png and tiff |
| 20:49.05 | JademusSreg | Goot. |
| 20:49.10 | Mexa_ | If I understood what I read now right |
| 20:49.24 | Mexa_ | but those I mentioned before works 100% positively anyways |
| 20:49.37 | Mexa_ | No worries in other words |
| 20:50.31 | merlinludwig2 | jade, i think u might like my map concept, though i may have bitten off more than i can chew |
| 20:50.39 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 20:51.25 | merlinludwig2 | im gonna create a teching system based on module creation, and adding modules to units |
| 20:52.02 | JademusSreg | Neat; what is the map again? I forget. |
| 20:52.48 | merlinludwig2 | problem is im trying to stay true to starcraft lore while introducing a third resource, and setting each resource as a primary per race |
| 20:55.15 | JademusSreg | There is a fair number of starcraft lore resources. Terrazine and jorium were introduced, khaydarin crystals are utilized by the Protoss and, to a much less extent, the Zerg in some cases (like the manifestation of the Overmind on Aiur). |
| 20:56.03 | JademusSreg | I expect the Starcraft wiki can name some I cannot recall. |
| 20:57.09 | JademusSreg | Terrazine is harvested for, not only the high energy potential that makes Vespene so valuable, but also its psionic enhancement properties. |
| 20:57.44 | JademusSreg | So there is a good reason for all the races to want Terrazine. |
| 21:03.38 | Aelie | hey JademusSreg |
| 21:03.56 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 21:03.58 | Aelie | what is the best way for me to figure out what are the other parts of a recipe |
| 21:05.25 | JademusSreg | Depends on how you store the data. Like if you do like a bitmask, it's a simple bitwise operation to return the remaining parts. |
| 21:05.37 | JademusSreg | Could you be more specific? =D |
| 21:06.40 | Aelie | ok |
| 21:06.50 | Aelie | you remember all the types of gems, right? |
| 21:07.19 | Aelie | for example |
| 21:07.23 | JademusSreg | Topaz, aquamarine, diamond, ruby, emerald, sapphire. |
| 21:07.37 | JademusSreg | And opal. |
| 21:07.38 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 21:07.39 | Aelie | flawed topaz, emerald, and flawless opal forms silver |
| 21:07.47 | Aelie | and amethyst :p |
| 21:07.50 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 21:07.54 | JademusSreg | Oops. |
| 21:07.57 | Aelie | anyhow |
| 21:08.04 | Aelie | theres about 12-14 of these recipes |
| 21:09.49 | Aelie | and i cant figure out how to detect when someoene finishes a recipe |
| 21:10.31 | JademusSreg | In what format are you storing the recipes? |
| 21:11.36 | Aelie | i havent decided that either |
| 21:11.44 | Aelie | i was thinking of an array |
| 21:12.00 | JademusSreg | On what event will you be checking for recipe completion? |
| 21:12.52 | Aelie | 2 times |
| 21:13.12 | Aelie | 1) when you just roll a gem, it checks to see if you completed a recipe entirely on that round |
| 21:13.53 | Aelie | 2) when you pick a gem |
| 21:14.12 | Aelie | it sees if the gem you kept completes a recipe with gems you kept in a previous round |
| 21:14.29 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 21:15.08 | JademusSreg | So you're iterating through unitgroups to get this information? |
| 21:15.17 | Aelie | yep |
| 21:15.20 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 21:15.23 | Bibendus | where the hell is the gain level actor event :| |
| 21:15.33 | Aelie | although i hope i can avoid checking every single gem |
| 21:16.05 | Bibendus | i hate data editing :| |
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| 21:18.27 | JademusSreg | So the event fires, then you iterate across the unitgroups to get information about the ingredients, and then you check if the ingredients can form a recipe. Since there's the possibility of ingredients being used in multiple recipes and since you can't get a group of recipes in O(1), you'll be looking at at least O(n) computational efficiency for getting all the valid recipes. |
| 21:18.59 | JademusSreg | Or rather, you'll be iterating in some form or another. |
| 21:19.09 | Bibendus | who's talking about cooking and why? |
| 21:19.11 | JademusSreg | Unless you're just checking IF there is any valid recipe. |
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| 21:21.49 | JademusSreg | If you're just checking for any valid recipe at all for the ingredient so you know, say, whether or not to enable the button and you'll be getting the recipe when the button is clicked, you can definitely do the latter in O(1), by, say, using the selected units as a key for a data table or converting their types into ints to use as array indexes. |
| 21:25.47 | JademusSreg | I'd suggest using data tables, personally, since with an array based approach you're looking at a fair amount of wasted memory. |
| 21:26.47 | Aelie | actually |
| 21:26.57 | Aelie | every gem only has one recipe |
| 21:27.12 | JademusSreg | Hm. That's convenient. |
| 21:27.13 | Aelie | which makes it sort of easy |
| 21:27.31 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 21:35.38 | JademusSreg | So checking to enable the ability and retrieving the end result can both be O(1) using data tables to store recipes by utilizing the unity types as keys. |
| 21:35.58 | Aelie | i was thinking that way |
| 21:36.01 | JademusSreg | *unit types |
| 21:36.45 | Aelie | store the other two types in a data table |
| 21:36.51 | Aelie | for each gem |
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| 21:48.02 | Otixa | groans |
| 21:50.26 | Mexa_ | lol |
| 21:50.37 | Mexa_ | My neighbour's firealarm was on |
| 21:50.47 | Mexa_ | I thought it was from my room first ._. |
| 21:51.06 | Aelie | it may be your room soon |
| 21:51.12 | Mexa_ | ;P |
| 21:51.36 | Mexa_ | And someone from the other side outside shouted "Stop cooking dinner" |
| 21:51.37 | Mexa_ | xD |
| 21:51.45 | Mexa_ | It's midnight, lol |
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| 21:58.57 | Aelie | theres no data table unit type |
| 22:00.19 | Mexa_ | a unit type is a string |
| 22:02.30 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 22:02.40 | Otixa | smacks JademusSreg |
| 22:02.53 | Aelie | smacks Otixa |
| 22:03.07 | Otixa | smacks Aelie |
| 22:03.16 | JademusSreg | snuggles maliciously. |
| 22:03.25 | Otixa | :C |
| 22:03.30 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 22:09.34 | Aelie | heh. |
| 22:10.09 | Otixa | We're discussing where one can find a half-decent female companion ;o |
| 22:10.11 | Otixa | Ideas? |
| 22:11.16 | JademusSreg | I'm pretty sure discussing such things makes you ineligible. |
| 22:11.44 | Otixa | inorite ._. |
| 22:15.26 | Otixa | Solike |
| 22:15.30 | Otixa | What ya nubs up to? :B |
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| 22:17.10 | Mexa_ | Speak for yourself.-. |
| 22:17.18 | Mexa_ | Trackmania 2 anywho. |
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| 22:26.33 | JademusSreg | Making a program for my daughter so she can practice her letters and numbers. |
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| 23:22.07 | AppleOfTempest | what other tools have you been learning/do you use jademussreg? |
| 23:22.22 | AppleOfTempest | for game design, besides UDK. |
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| 23:54.57 | JademusSreg | Hah, some days it's like being A'Tuin. |
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