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| 00:27.27 | snakeyz11 | hi |
| 00:27.38 | snakeyz11 | HELLO? |
| 00:29.57 | snakeyz11 | HELLO? |
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| 00:53.06 | obliviron | Anyone here know how to direct force effects? |
| 00:58.45 | timecat | wut |
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| 01:37.50 | RipperRoo | sup? |
| 01:37.54 | RipperRoo | anyone here ? :D |
| 01:37.58 | LZRavanger_ | me! |
| 01:38.05 | RipperRoo | :) hi |
| 01:38.25 | LZRavanger_ | im testing a map... wanna help? |
| 01:38.35 | LZRavanger_ | not mp testing, bug testing |
| 01:38.37 | RipperRoo | european server sorry :d |
| 01:38.41 | LZRavanger_ | fk! |
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| 02:45.02 | tordy | hello |
| 02:45.04 | tordy | anyone home!? |
| 02:48.53 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 03:02.55 | Nash|327 | nope.avi |
| 03:15.38 | tordy | D: |
| 03:15.44 | tordy | hello Nash|327 |
| 03:15.46 | tordy | hello JademusSreg |
| 03:16.30 | Nash|327 | noooes |
| 03:16.40 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 03:16.48 | tordy | do you guys know how to limit resource trading? |
| 03:16.55 | timecat | "limit"? |
| 03:17.03 | tordy | like a player can give his ally at most 500 minterals |
| 03:17.06 | tordy | at a time |
| 03:17.14 | tordy | and then cannot trade for a minute |
| 03:17.23 | JademusSreg | Ah.' |
| 03:17.38 | JademusSreg | It's an alliance property, iirc./ |
| 03:17.43 | tordy | u sure |
| 03:17.57 | tordy | lemme check |
| 03:18.45 | JademusSreg | I'm not aware if there is an event to detect trading, though. |
| 03:19.14 | tordy | that's what i want |
| 03:19.57 | JademusSreg | I was answering the explicit question. =D |
| 03:20.10 | tordy | not sure what this alliance property is |
| 03:20.42 | tordy | i mean i can disable resource trading |
| 03:20.46 | tordy | but cant limit it |
| 03:23.41 | JademusSreg | const int c_allianceIdTrade = 4; |
| 03:24.02 | JademusSreg | It's an alliance property, like I said. |
| 03:26.51 | Jum-Jum | tordy: I know theres a trigger that can deactivate and activate trading tho |
| 03:26.52 | tordy | i'll make a topic' |
| 03:26.57 | tordy | yea i know that too |
| 03:27.59 | JademusSreg | Doesn't seem to be an event for it. |
| 03:28.14 | JademusSreg | Guess you'll need to trigger a dialog. |
| 03:28.21 | timecat | hmm |
| 03:28.30 | timecat | my map seems to break at an arbitrary point when 8 ppl join |
| 03:28.34 | tordy | remove the default resource trading dialog? |
| 03:28.36 | tordy | and then make own? |
| 03:28.39 | timecat | it runs all the initialization triggers up to a point |
| 03:28.40 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 03:28.43 | tordy | >:) |
| 03:28.53 | timecat | then it just stops running them |
| 03:28.57 | timecat | which makes no senese |
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| 03:29.25 | JademusSreg | cat, any errors pop up? |
| 03:29.37 | timecat | nope |
| 03:30.14 | timecat | the spot it stops at is the same each time but its such a random point to stop at |
| 03:31.00 | JademusSreg | And I assume they are not supressed, so that narrows it down to unexpected behavior or an oversight. |
| 03:33.34 | JademusSreg | Does it seem to stop mid trigger or does the trigger in question not run at all? |
| 03:33.41 | timecat | it stops mid trigger |
| 03:33.54 | JademusSreg | Pastebin? |
| 03:34.00 | timecat | k |
| 03:34.05 | timecat | how do i copy the trigger text |
| 03:34.50 | timecat | nvm found it |
| 03:34.50 | JademusSreg | Click top or bottom, hold shift, click the other end, Copy As Text. |
| 03:34.55 | JademusSreg | Ah, haha. |
| 03:35.13 | timecat | http://pastebin.com/VE99f6sC |
| 03:35.30 | tordy | hate how trading doesnt work with computers |
| 03:35.31 | tordy | >:[ |
| 03:35.53 | timecat | it runs up the pan camera |
| 03:35.58 | timecat | it doesn't run any of the pan camera stuff |
| 03:39.30 | JademusSreg | And you say it only happens with 8 people or what? |
| 03:39.37 | timecat | yea |
| 03:41.05 | JademusSreg | I don't see any issue. Odd. |
| 03:41.32 | JademusSreg | I could see pan camera working if the units didn't exist. |
| 03:41.37 | JademusSreg | *not working |
| 03:41.52 | timecat | thats ok though |
| 03:41.56 | JademusSreg | Null unit would return a null point, defaulting to (0,0) |
| 03:41.57 | timecat | becuase if the unit doesn't exist it just skips it |
| 03:42.56 | JademusSreg | Since all the units still exist, of course, there's no reason why it shouldm't work. |
| 03:43.09 | timecat | well it works even when they don't |
| 03:43.26 | JademusSreg | How so? |
| 03:43.37 | timecat | when there's less people |
| 03:43.55 | timecat | it works just fine |
| 03:44.20 | JademusSreg | Well, yes, obviously. I mean if the units were removed before the pan occured, it would return null points from null units. |
| 03:44.47 | JademusSreg | The trigger would continue to run, of course. |
| 03:46.02 | JademusSreg | And I don't suppose there is any way they are being removed beforehand, which makes it unlikely to be the cause. |
| 03:47.38 | JademusSreg | UI - Disallow resource trading for Minerals still works, yes. |
| 03:47.41 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 03:49.40 | timecat | uh |
| 03:49.41 | timecat | not sure |
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| 03:55.50 | JademusSreg | If it wasn't working, that would indicate a problem with the loop, but this is also unlikely, as I assume you did not supress error reporting. |
| 03:56.08 | JademusSreg | *suppress |
| 03:56.36 | timecat | hmm |
| 03:56.48 | timecat | there's no trade resources icon to click |
| 03:58.07 | JademusSreg | And I think the default behavior is to allow resource trading? That applies in signle player mode as well? |
| 03:58.19 | JademusSreg | *single |
| 03:58.43 | JademusSreg | (Dunno if you're testing in single or multi.) |
| 03:58.48 | timecat | testing on bnet |
| 03:58.56 | JademusSreg | Other players in game? |
| 03:59.13 | timecat | they all left |
| 03:59.47 | JademusSreg | Hm, assuming the default behavior is for resource trading to be enabled, then that part is working, which means it's not the loop. |
| 04:00.14 | timecat | hmm |
| 04:00.15 | timecat | i wonder |
| 04:15.11 | timecat | ah |
| 04:15.12 | timecat | fixed it |
| 04:15.15 | timecat | what a dumb bug |
| 04:15.38 | timecat | it didn't like me trying to give minerals and create a revealer for the AI player |
| 04:15.45 | timecat | so it decided to just stop there |
| 04:15.47 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 04:15.56 | JademusSreg | Weird. |
| 04:16.00 | timecat | yea |
| 04:16.19 | timecat | i wish i could get more feedback on this map |
| 04:16.38 | timecat | but i think the best part |
| 04:16.47 | timecat | is when ppl talk about how its "supposed to be played" |
| 04:17.05 | timecat | its just like "no, you can play it however you want" |
| 04:17.21 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 04:17.59 | JademusSreg | Have you figured out how to prevent juggling? =D |
| 04:18.05 | JademusSreg | Or will that just be allowed? |
| 04:18.33 | timecat | i'm just going to allow it |
| 04:18.45 | timecat | if i wanted to prevent i oculd check to see if a creep walks through the same path 3 times |
| 04:18.47 | timecat | but meh |
| 04:18.50 | timecat | juggling is part of TD games |
| 04:19.08 | timecat | what i need now |
| 04:19.12 | timecat | is ideas for more towers |
| 04:19.38 | JademusSreg | So far you've got long range, dps, slow, what else? |
| 04:19.51 | Jum-Jum | splash? |
| 04:19.59 | timecat | siege and dark towers both have splash |
| 04:20.12 | timecat | i want a creative tower idea |
| 04:20.20 | timecat | like elemental TD |
| 04:20.24 | timecat | it had tons of unique towers |
| 04:20.28 | tordy | like which one |
| 04:20.39 | timecat | the quantum tower was pretty cool |
| 04:20.45 | timecat | had the rotating beam of light |
| 04:20.46 | JademusSreg | What's that do? |
| 04:20.56 | tordy | moving splash? |
| 04:21.00 | timecat | kinda |
| 04:21.12 | tordy | center AoE |
| 04:21.15 | Jum-Jum | how about a tower that does line damage, like a lurkers attack |
| 04:21.22 | timecat | dark tower does that |
| 04:21.26 | Jum-Jum | mkay |
| 04:21.26 | timecat | just not very far |
| 04:21.44 | Jum-Jum | artillery turret, high range very slow projectiles? |
| 04:21.58 | timecat | meh |
| 04:22.05 | Jum-Jum | seriously tho if im creating stuff i usually end up messing around with stuff |
| 04:22.10 | tordy | fast long range |
| 04:22.12 | Jum-Jum | and then i just keep "hey wait i could do that" "no wait i could do that" |
| 04:22.23 | Jum-Jum | and then i just end up doing everything at once and then it falls apart |
| 04:22.24 | tordy | range-dependant damage? |
| 04:22.26 | Jum-Jum | creativity overload |
| 04:22.27 | JademusSreg | Warp Tower, teleport a unit back somewhere, haha. Incubation Tower, applies a dps buff that, upon killing the creepm, spawns a timed life mini tower. |
| 04:22.57 | Jum-Jum | How about a tower that has a laser, and it spins around. you know like a clock arrow |
| 04:23.19 | timecat | hmm |
| 04:23.29 | tordy | how bout a time tower! |
| 04:23.32 | Jum-Jum | maybe the hellions fire attakc is more suitable |
| 04:23.45 | tordy | not talkin bout slowdown |
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| 04:23.54 | tordy | or buff |
| 04:24.02 | timecat | i was thinking of making aura towers |
| 04:24.12 | JademusSreg | Repellent Tower, it emits a barrier that knocks back units until it (rapidly) exhausts its power. |
| 04:24.28 | timecat | thats basically what the trap tower does |
| 04:24.29 | tordy | ghetto tower |
| 04:25.37 | JademusSreg | Have you got a laser line tower yet? It just fires a constant laser that damages units passing through it? |
| 04:25.52 | Jum-Jum | Bunker\consume\thingy tower, loads up an amount of units when they get close and waits X seconds until it spits them all out at once, like 1 unit at level 1 and a few more at upgraded? |
| 04:26.06 | tordy | is there a TD in sc2 that allows you to set target filters for each individual tower? |
| 04:26.11 | Jum-Jum | im just brainstorming stuff now lol |
| 04:26.11 | tordy | allows the player |
| 04:26.17 | timecat | what about |
| 04:26.27 | timecat | a tower that does more damage the longer it hasn't been firing |
| 04:26.45 | JademusSreg | Ah, like an Overcharge Tower? Decent name for it. |
| 04:26.54 | timecat | lol |
| 04:27.32 | JademusSreg | How about a Uranium Tower? It just emits deadly radiation that gives the creeps cancer. |
| 04:27.42 | timecat | lol |
| 04:27.57 | Jum-Jum | lol |
| 04:28.18 | tordy | Brap tower, deals more damage when there are less units within its sight range |
| 04:28.20 | JademusSreg | As a cancer survivor, I make as many cancer joeks as I want without concern. Haha |
| 04:28.21 | tordy | raadius |
| 04:29.10 | timecat | you know what would be interesting |
| 04:29.14 | JademusSreg | Salvage Tower, units that die within its radius provide additional bounty. |
| 04:29.21 | timecat | a tower that deals aoe damage around itself BUT |
| 04:29.36 | timecat | the damage per attack is split between all the creeps it hits |
| 04:29.58 | JademusSreg | Socuialist Tower |
| 04:29.59 | timecat | or just a tower that deals aoe damage that gets split |
| 04:30.01 | JademusSreg | *Socialist |
| 04:30.19 | tordy | a tower that deals less damage depending on the amount of towers around it |
| 04:30.30 | tordy | loner tower |
| 04:30.34 | timecat | lol |
| 04:30.38 | timecat | oh i know |
| 04:30.47 | timecat | a tower that deals damage according to how much energy it currently has |
| 04:30.52 | timecat | so its first attack would do lots of damage |
| 04:30.54 | tordy | how does energy work |
| 04:30.55 | JademusSreg | Atma Tower |
| 04:30.56 | timecat | and its next attack would do less |
| 04:31.04 | tordy | so an overcharge tower? |
| 04:31.04 | JademusSreg | Referencing the Atma Weapon, oh yeaaaah. |
| 04:31.12 | timecat | lol i was just thinking that jade |
| 04:31.14 | JademusSreg | Which is a reference to hindu mythology. |
| 04:31.26 | JademusSreg | Atman, which is to say soul. |
| 04:31.46 | timecat | i began to learn atma weapon's theme song on the piano but its *hard* |
| 04:31.53 | JademusSreg | Ah, epic song. |
| 04:31.55 | JademusSreg | Mmmm. |
| 04:31.58 | timecat | definitely |
| 04:32.10 | JademusSreg | My daughter is laying down on my guitar, silly girl. |
| 04:32.46 | timecat | ok i'm going to make a tower that deals proportional damage according to how much energy it currently has |
| 04:32.58 | timecat | now i need a good concept for it |
| 04:33.43 | tordy | five guys burgers & fries tower = creeps move slower as it gets fatter but the more the creep moves, the more exercise it gets back increasing speed back |
| 04:33.54 | timecat | o god lol |
| 04:33.57 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 04:34.02 | JademusSreg | McTower. |
| 04:34.27 | Jum-Jum | hahaha |
| 04:34.28 | Jum-Jum | McTower |
| 04:35.30 | JademusSreg | Bifurcation Tower, it spawns mobile mini towers (without collision) that can be repositioned within a leash range of their parent. |
| 04:36.34 | tordy | Bank Tower, tower deals more damage when you have more minerals |
| 04:36.42 | tordy | w/ a limit of course |
| 04:36.49 | timecat | heh |
| 04:36.52 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 04:37.14 | JademusSreg | Better be wary of the tower market collapse, then. |
| 04:37.20 | tordy | yes |
| 04:37.26 | Jum-Jum | Just add everything thats been suggested in this channel timecat, you have 1 hour go go. |
| 04:37.26 | Jum-Jum | ;D |
| 04:37.31 | timecat | lol |
| 04:38.04 | tordy | so you can spend money for additional towers but your bank towers will suck |
| 04:38.41 | tordy | interest towers! |
| 04:38.49 | timecat | no |
| 04:38.58 | timecat | i refuse to add any interest elements in my game |
| 04:39.03 | JademusSreg | How about a ridiculously long ranged tower? |
| 04:39.03 | timecat | because fuck interest |
| 04:39.14 | tordy | inTeReSt |
| 04:39.29 | tordy | yea bank towers are in some ways interest |
| 04:39.36 | tordy | but not really, just as in a form of tower |
| 04:39.54 | JademusSreg | Rename my Incubation Tower idea to Takklemaggot Tower, if you like. |
| 04:39.55 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 04:40.38 | tordy | Lure tower, causes towers around it to only target a specific creep |
| 04:40.44 | tordy | but not really |
| 04:40.54 | tordy | and weakens it |
| 04:41.04 | tordy | so that it isn't the same as Attack -> unit |
| 04:41.38 | timecat | i could make a psi storm tower |
| 04:41.40 | tordy | Hungry Tower = loves yummu bio, hates mech |
| 04:41.46 | timecat | that just autocasts psi storm |
| 04:41.58 | tordy | how about the psi storm is movable |
| 04:42.07 | tordy | or are you decreasing player involvement / micro |
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| 04:42.12 | timecat | actually what i need to do is make a 3rd elemental tower |
| 04:42.15 | tordy | so that all towers are automatic |
| 04:42.21 | timecat | i want to make all tower automatic |
| 04:42.26 | JademusSreg | Hungry Hungry Hippo Tower. |
| 04:43.15 | tordy | Silent Killer Tower = fart tower |
| 04:43.40 | timecat | oh geez |
| 04:44.00 | timecat | what should my 3rd element be |
| 04:44.06 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 04:44.08 | Jum-Jum | Which ones do you have? |
| 04:44.10 | timecat | i have fire, darkness, and nature atm |
| 04:44.17 | JademusSreg | Oh noes. |
| 04:44.19 | tordy | so you want a 4th element? |
| 04:44.21 | timecat | and i can't find any good models for water towers |
| 04:44.25 | timecat | basically |
| 04:44.34 | timecat | i was thinking maybe wind towers |
| 04:44.47 | tordy | cant you just take the ones from elemental td |
| 04:44.48 | Jum-Jum | metal? |
| 04:44.58 | tordy | they got some good water |
| 04:44.59 | Jum-Jum | its not really an element but ye |
| 04:45.12 | tordy | what makes this different than elemental TD again |
| 04:45.18 | JademusSreg | Reminds me of this: http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5783/innerplanes.jpg |
| 04:45.23 | timecat | tordy: everything? |
| 04:45.30 | tordy | woah too many elements |
| 04:46.03 | tordy | what's its best feature that separates it from other TDs |
| 04:46.12 | timecat | its power transfer system |
| 04:46.15 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 04:46.17 | tordy | more.... |
| 04:46.22 | timecat | and i think it might be the first mazing td in sc2 |
| 04:46.30 | tordy | aww mazing havent seen those in a while |
| 04:46.31 | timecat | at least the first good one |
| 04:46.39 | tordy | there's been a few |
| 04:46.55 | tordy | there's was this one maze td in sc1 i liked |
| 04:47.13 | timecat | lets see if i can find any good models for a wind tower |
| 04:47.21 | tordy | the blow tower |
| 04:48.01 | JademusSreg | Mmmm. |
| 04:48.06 | JademusSreg | Good times. |
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| 04:49.55 | timecat | its annoying how there isn't much magical stuff in sc2 |
| 04:50.16 | Jum-Jum | wc3 had so much more units to mess around with too |
| 04:50.21 | Jum-Jum | because of the creeps and campaign units |
| 04:50.21 | timecat | yea |
| 04:50.22 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 04:53.32 | timecat | sigh |
| 04:53.37 | timecat | wish i had a dragon i could put in |
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| 05:34.03 | soulcarver | those are some good tower ideas.... |
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| 06:19.43 | timecat | is everyone here dead |
| 06:22.51 | JademusSreg | rots. |
| 06:25.12 | Currydevil | maybe |
| 06:25.46 | Currydevil | has anyone had problems with effects glwoing really bright or other messed up colors? |
| 06:25.51 | Currydevil | recently |
| 06:34.49 | Currydevil | this: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/strangeburn.png/ something wrong with my editor/game? or my models? or graphics settings? |
| 06:35.14 | Currydevil | i didn't make any changes to the map between the last time i loaded that one and now. |
| 06:35.55 | Currydevil | it does however add a sweet glow to tassadar... |
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| 06:39.34 | Currydevil | it's like i've got a spray paint doing graffiti on my map |
| 06:40.27 | Currydevil | interesting. |
| 06:40.37 | Currydevil | it goes away with setting the sahders to low. |
| 06:40.40 | Currydevil | med* |
| 06:40.47 | Currydevil | shaders* |
| 06:44.09 | timecat | curry: sounds like you took the brown acid |
| 06:45.00 | Currydevil | what does the brown acid have to do with the shader settings lol |
| 06:55.43 | timecat | anyone know how to set up custom combat attributes? |
| 06:55.51 | timecat | like light/mechanical/hero etc |
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| 07:10.20 | timecat | or actually |
| 07:10.27 | timecat | anyone know how to use markers with weapons? |
| 07:45.48 | timecat | ah nvm |
| 07:45.54 | timecat | found a better way to accomplish what i'm doing |
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| 08:27.51 | Dekar | any eta on 1.4? |
| 08:30.47 | timecat | zz i wish |
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| 09:22.57 | LZRavanger | anyone here? |
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| 12:03.24 | RipperRoo | DUSTIN^^ |
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| 16:45.54 | merlinludwig | hello people |
| 16:47.19 | JademusSreg | =D |
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| 16:53.02 | merlinludwig | i hate dialogs |
| 16:54.40 | JademusSreg | Why so? |
| 16:54.56 | merlinludwig | they r just cumbersome to work with |
| 16:55.22 | merlinludwig | its something about trying to figure out how to properly arrange them |
| 16:58.36 | JademusSreg | And with different resolutions, offsets are unreliable. To maintain consistent offset proportions, you'll need to get the user resolution. |
| 16:58.56 | merlinludwig | and i aint figured that one out yet |
| 16:59.17 | merlinludwig | thats actually my biggest issue |
| 16:59.52 | merlinludwig | the whole "is it gonna go off their screen" issue |
| 17:00.32 | merlinludwig | is there a way to get the rez via trigger? |
| 17:04.12 | JademusSreg | I've heard of various solutions. I wonder if it could be by creating a dialog on the top right, using the top right anchor, then get its position. |
| 17:05.35 | JademusSreg | DialogGetPosition should return absolute position, rather than an anchor relative position. |
| 17:08.04 | merlinludwig | hmm....ima test that, ty |
| 17:10.38 | merlinludwig | LMAO |
| 17:10.56 | merlinludwig | dialog width and height, ill just fullscreen it and done |
| 17:11.19 | JademusSreg | http://i.livescience.com/images/i/16493/original/zombie_ant.jpg?1304899292 |
| 17:11.35 | JademusSreg | Beware of mind-control fungus. |
| 17:12.17 | merlinludwig | lol |
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| 17:19.07 | Ashamed | good afternoon |
| 17:19.13 | JademusSreg | Hi Ash. |
| 17:19.14 | merlinludwig | ello |
| 17:27.11 | Ashamed | busy day at work >< |
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| 18:32.02 | merlinludwig | i wish blizzard would give us a way to store functions in the data table like we can triggers |
| 18:32.24 | JademusSreg | Like function pointers? |
| 18:32.32 | merlinludwig | lol...yeah |
| 18:32.50 | merlinludwig | i'd use em |
| 18:33.03 | JademusSreg | Galaxy used to have pointers during early beta, but even then function pointers were not supported/ |
| 18:33.25 | merlinludwig | course not...ah well, least we got trigg pointers |
| 18:33.40 | JademusSreg | Well, references. |
| 18:33.42 | merlinludwig | just wish u could parse data into a trigger |
| 18:34.01 | merlinludwig | *pass |
| 18:34.47 | JademusSreg | Here's a record of Zoxc's early examinations of galaxy. http://www.sc2c.org/showthread.php?t=7 |
| 18:35.10 | merlinludwig | hmm...perhaps u can...just thought of something |
| 18:39.19 | merlinludwig | if u can run a trigger stored in the data table, u can set a parameter into the datatable, based on the name of trigger, and retrieve the data from the trigger. u would still be somewhat limited, but u can run the same trigger twice and have it perform differently. |
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| 18:42.48 | merlinludwig | example: in init={store 2 in datatable.carwheels}&{run trigger.car} in car trigger={set wheels to datatable.carwheels} |
| 18:43.18 | merlinludwig | now...how do i make this generic lol |
| 18:44.29 | JademusSreg | Format the datatable keys with ints on the end so you can pass multiple args to the trigger. |
| 18:44.41 | merlinludwig | yeah |
| 18:45.01 | merlinludwig | thats basically what im doing for my votekick system |
| 18:45.46 | merlinludwig | im playin with dialogs at the moment, kinda just somethin to do in case i one day decide to make a dialog heavy map |
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| 19:22.57 | merlinludwig | i must like overkill |
| 19:23.15 | merlinludwig | i have 6 functions and a trigger just to make a votekick system lol |
| 19:24.52 | JademusSreg | Server maintanence. |
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| 19:28.59 | merlinludwig | WTH??? i can't use name of player as a conditional in comparison??? |
| 19:29.09 | JademusSreg | Player name is text. |
| 19:29.21 | JademusSreg | Text compares references, not content. |
| 19:29.24 | merlinludwig | so....no? |
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| 19:29.35 | timecat | wait for patch 1.4 |
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| 19:29.43 | merlinludwig | lol |
| 19:29.49 | merlinludwig | no ty |
| 19:29.57 | JademusSreg | Player handles will be accessible in 1.4. |
| 19:30.13 | timecat | i can't wait to troll ppl with player handles |
| 19:30.17 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 19:31.01 | merlinludwig | timecat |
| 19:31.07 | timecat | i don't get it |
| 19:31.08 | merlinludwig | admin cheat menu |
| 19:31.14 | Mexa | So.. apparantly my payment for trackmania 2 didn't go through, and suddenly it disappeared from my bank account record |
| 19:31.14 | timecat | why are my creeps just walking through buildings |
| 19:31.20 | Mexa | But I still have the game |
| 19:31.22 | Mexa | :v |
| 19:31.38 | Mexa | or the beta as it is. |
| 19:31.45 | timecat | lol mexa that happened to my friend with WoW |
| 19:31.52 | timecat | it took blizzard two years to figure it out |
| 19:31.59 | Mexa | lol |
| 19:32.00 | merlinludwig | um...did u place the building after they had already decided on the path they were gonna take? |
| 19:32.09 | timecat | merlin: yea thats the problem |
| 19:32.14 | timecat | its not updating their path |
| 19:33.47 | merlinludwig | they should update automatically... |
| 19:34.05 | timecat | you'd think so |
| 19:34.36 | merlinludwig | of course, u are using some fancy waypointing... |
| 19:35.00 | timecat | omg |
| 19:35.02 | timecat | i think it just solved it |
| 19:35.13 | merlinludwig | so does it just order them to move to pointX |
| 19:35.16 | merlinludwig | ? |
| 19:35.22 | timecat | the building's movement-radius was too small |
| 19:35.28 | merlinludwig | lol |
| 19:35.38 | timecat | i set it to 2 and it works fine now |
| 19:35.54 | merlinludwig | the "buildings" movement radius? |
| 19:36.07 | timecat | its the radius in which it can interact with other units |
| 19:36.16 | merlinludwig | y the hell does the "building" need a "movement" radius |
| 19:36.21 | timecat | so there was a gap between two building's radiuses |
| 19:36.24 | merlinludwig | buildings dont move |
| 19:36.26 | timecat | lol |
| 19:36.32 | timecat | i can make them move tho :3 |
| 19:37.54 | merlinludwig | hell...if ur gonna do that give a cheat command that causes all buildings to fly up and swarm around the center like some makeshift ufo lol :P |
| 19:38.10 | timecat | lawl |
| 19:40.52 | merlinludwig | 15 Trigger Error in 'gt_dialogwatcher_Func': Divide by zero |
| 19:41.06 | merlinludwig | every fockin time i do shit... |
| 19:42.40 | merlinludwig | is there a way to hook into the error? as in: upon error, do whatever |
| 19:43.03 | timecat | i don't think it supports error catching |
| 19:43.10 | merlinludwig | grr... |
| 19:45.50 | Mexa | well, check every division you have |
| 19:45.59 | Mexa | Or what is the problem :>? |
| 19:46.06 | merlinludwig | lol....doesnt matter |
| 19:46.17 | Mexa | ofcourse it does |
| 19:46.33 | merlinludwig | i know what the problem is, my unit group was empty |
| 19:46.53 | merlinludwig | i just need more redundencies |
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| 20:07.00 | timecat | you and your good coding habits |
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| 20:18.10 | merlinludwig | lol |
| 20:18.54 | merlinludwig | everything is good...in moderation |
| 20:19.01 | timecat | oh yay |
| 20:19.07 | timecat | i fixed creeps phasing through buildings |
| 20:19.15 | merlinludwig | i seem to have gone overboard on my votekick system |
| 20:20.54 | Mexa | Jademus, btw, photon cycles is at page 2 |
| 20:20.58 | Mexa | @eu |
| 20:21.04 | JademusSreg | Good. =D |
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| 20:40.42 | merlinludwig | whats better....a chatcommand or a button for votekicking? |
| 20:41.07 | Dekar | chatcommand |
| 20:41.22 | Dekar | button blocks view all the time |
| 20:41.35 | Dekar | unless you hide it in another menu |
| 20:41.37 | Dekar | then its better |
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| 20:50.36 | RipperRoo | dekar is a lier dont listen to him |
| 20:50.47 | RipperRoo | and he is french |
| 20:51.01 | Dekar | and ripper is a 10 year old kiddy |
| 20:51.27 | merlinludwig | sigh |
| 20:51.41 | merlinludwig | well fine...ill put both in :P |
| 20:52.08 | RipperRoo | yeah and make a chatcommand "-dekar" then all units become french! |
| 20:52.11 | RipperRoo | (: |
| 20:52.17 | Currydevil | lawl |
| 20:52.43 | merlinludwig | um...that should be easy enough |
| 20:53.29 | Dekar | are you still sad that you couldnt ban me from your channel? |
| 20:53.44 | merlinludwig | all i gotta do is select 3 areas of the map and change all unit's colors to blue, white and red |
| 20:54.34 | Dekar | or is the because i tried to help you with your map? |
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| 22:03.34 | merlinludwig | anyone wanna help me test my votekick system? |
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| 22:05.25 | merlinludwig | just need someone to kick...real quick test :P |
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| 23:03.24 | merlinludwig | ok...back |
| 23:04.14 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 23:04.28 | merlinludwig | timecat, i had a dark tower 5 that was outta energy, even though i had 2 capacitors hooked to it |
| 23:05.10 | timecat | yea they go through energy pretty fast |
| 23:05.22 | timecat | i guess i might want to back off their energy consumption tho |
| 23:05.25 | merlinludwig | i think "dark tower 5" needs a higher input limit |
| 23:05.56 | merlinludwig | dark tower 6 no longer has energy problems |
| 23:05.58 | timecat | ah ok |
| 23:06.11 | JademusSreg | timecat, I hope you're using beautiful spreadsheets to manage tower stats. =D |
| 23:06.21 | merlinludwig | LMAO |
| 23:06.32 | timecat | if by beautiful speadsheets you mean a txt file then yes |
| 23:06.37 | JademusSreg | Eww. |
| 23:06.39 | merlinludwig | he's got em memorized im sure :P |
| 23:06.51 | timecat | i'm working on a hero tower atm |
| 23:06.58 | JademusSreg | How else would you track derived values and relatioships? |
| 23:07.15 | timecat | each level you can give it abilities |
| 23:07.20 | timecat | i "derived" them from wc3 pt |
| 23:07.26 | merlinludwig | personally...i like spreadsheets...used to use them for everything |
| 23:08.12 | JademusSreg | For instance, if you wanna know mineral cost efficiency relative to damage:power/second. |
| 23:08.21 | merlinludwig | freakin made spreadsheets with andvanced calculations to figure out how to progress the best in my vidgames....rillaspora was the one that really sent my spreadsheet use over the edge |
| 23:09.51 | merlinludwig | basically....hes saying to make a spreadsheet for simple at-a-glance understanding...makes it easier to tweak too |
| 23:10.23 | timecat | no i get that |
| 23:10.50 | merlinludwig | oh...and good job....easy is now truly easy...(or i just know how to kick ass) |
| 23:11.06 | timecat | hmm? |
| 23:11.11 | timecat | i haven't changed easy in a long time |
| 23:11.29 | timecat | i might actually make easy a little harder |
| 23:11.30 | merlinludwig | um... |
| 23:14.21 | merlinludwig | http://postimage.org/image/2ogjkxv0k/ |
| 23:14.42 | merlinludwig | check it out...2 gens, 2 caps, and 4 damage towers |
| 23:15.18 | merlinludwig | so far im on wave 48 with no life lost :) |
| 23:15.24 | timecat | lol ok |
| 23:15.28 | merlinludwig | easy mode, obviously |
| 23:15.29 | timecat | oh yea i'm making normal harder as well |
| 23:15.37 | merlinludwig | lol |
| 23:15.46 | timecat | from what i've heard its still too easy |
| 23:15.46 | merlinludwig | careful with that |
| 23:15.59 | merlinludwig | depends on who u talk to |
| 23:16.23 | merlinludwig | my cousin's roommate got pwned on easy mode |
| 23:16.36 | merlinludwig | repetitively |
| 23:17.39 | merlinludwig | im just good at mazing....the mobs pass through my four towers 5 times lol |
| 23:17.54 | timecat | lol |
| 23:17.58 | merlinludwig | once per waypoint |
| 23:18.03 | timecat | i didn't realize it was possible to lose on easy mode |
| 23:18.31 | merlinludwig | well...u throw somebody in who hasnt had any practice and yeah |
| 23:18.49 | merlinludwig | course, this mighta been before u made ez easier |
| 23:18.57 | merlinludwig | (assuming u did) |
| 23:19.36 | timecat | right now ez hp is set according to 15x^2 + 10x + 50 where x is the wave number |
| 23:19.59 | timecat | and normal hp is set according to x^3 + 15x^2 + 15x + 50 |
| 23:20.18 | merlinludwig | um....i suck at math |
| 23:20.22 | timecat | i'm changing the coefficient on x^3 to 1.5 for normal mode |
| 23:21.41 | merlinludwig | oh yeah....i need to test the tesla |
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| 23:23.07 | Dustin | Some nice ingame tooltips oveer the buildings are gonna hlep peoples comprehension so much |
| 23:23.44 | timecat | tooltips saying what? |
| 23:23.55 | merlinludwig | i never figured out how to do that myself, spent a week trying, couldnt figure out how |
| 23:24.05 | Dustin | explaining about power linking/generation/ input-output |
| 23:25.22 | timecat | oh yea |
| 23:25.36 | timecat | if they don't like their generators 15s after building it they get a tutorial tip |
| 23:25.40 | timecat | but apparently no one reads those |
| 23:25.47 | Dustin | a they dont |
| 23:25.52 | Dustin | I have to explain it everytime |
| 23:26.01 | Dustin | but I thin kthye will if it's attachedto their generator |
| 23:26.03 | timecat | lol |
| 23:26.08 | timecat | ok |
| 23:26.09 | merlinludwig | mouse over towerA -> tooltip(incoming energy: x outgoing energy: y incoming limit: z outgoing limit: Ã) |
| 23:26.13 | timecat | or at least a text message |
| 23:27.50 | merlinludwig | tesla == broken |
| 23:28.01 | timecat | how is it broken |
| 23:28.10 | merlinludwig | it can only hit one tower at a time....no jumps |
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| 23:28.58 | timecat | *one creep? |
| 23:29.03 | merlinludwig | supposed to hit multiple units, but i think the arc distance needs increased |
| 23:29.09 | timecat | no it works just fine |
| 23:29.18 | Dustin | ya works for me |
| 23:29.32 | timecat | the idea is that it can't reach 3 creeps if they are still the same distance apart as when they spawn |
| 23:29.34 | timecat | however |
| 23:29.45 | timecat | for pt 2.0 i'm adding more types of spawn formations |
| 23:30.04 | timecat | well actually i already added them |
| 23:31.24 | JademusSreg | Your power towers map is the only TD I'm interested enough to want to play again. |
| 23:32.06 | timecat | :D |
| 23:32.09 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 23:32.19 | merlinludwig | score |
| 23:32.27 | timecat | i'm so glad its doing this well |
| 23:32.40 | timecat | i spent a rediculous amount of time making it |
| 23:32.44 | Dustin | The hydro pump never places where i think it will lol |
| 23:33.00 | timecat | yea i know its annoying |
| 23:33.02 | merlinludwig | yeah...do hate that |
| 23:33.16 | Dustin | maybe if you raise the lowered terrain a bit |
| 23:33.22 | merlinludwig | told ya to use creep :P |
| 23:33.34 | Dustin | creep would be ugly :P |
| 23:33.37 | timecat | ^ |
| 23:34.27 | JademusSreg | You can set the footprint to not check placement pathing. |
| 23:34.58 | Dustin | Can you set a placement footprint to only be placeable on certain textures? |
| 23:35.06 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 23:35.07 | timecat | i used a region for that |
| 23:35.12 | Dustin | figured |
| 23:35.14 | JademusSreg | Yes, regions are goot too. |
| 23:35.21 | Dustin | I was gonna use some terrain shit for a worms type map |
| 23:35.36 | Dustin | but nothing exists yet, I put in a suggestion, but they said we'll think about it |
| 23:37.59 | RipperRoo | hey jade :) good evening |
| 23:38.12 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 23:38.13 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 23:44.12 | Dustin | that was weird |
| 23:44.26 | Dustin | My generator attachement beam disappeared |
| 23:44.39 | Dustin | and I linked it again and it said it was linked, but put the beam back |
| 23:44.43 | timecat | yea i've seen that occasionally happened |
| 23:44.47 | timecat | i dunno why it happens |
| 23:44.53 | RipperRoo | sc2 editor... makes wonders all the time :D |
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| 23:45.00 | merlinludwig | http://postimage.org/image/2ogjkxv0k/full/ |
| 23:45.03 | timecat | oh hey its brakum |
| 23:45.08 | merlinludwig | yeah |
| 23:45.21 | brakum | yo |
| 23:45.39 | timecat | i'm working on a major update atm |
| 23:46.08 | timecat | lots of new content and (hopefully) a working pathing system |
| 23:46.13 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 23:47.04 | brakum | huh |
| 23:47.06 | merlinludwig | they pathed just fine for me this game |
| 23:47.15 | timecat | i mean |
| 23:47.21 | timecat | they won't phase through buildings anymore |
| 23:47.31 | merlinludwig | played full game...never had that problem |
| 23:47.49 | merlinludwig | can u build diagonal yet? |
| 23:47.58 | timecat | nope |
| 23:48.01 | timecat | dunno why |
| 23:48.03 | merlinludwig | sad |
| 23:48.16 | merlinludwig | i just work around it |
| 23:48.51 | merlinludwig | lol...i hit continue game after victory |
| 23:49.03 | merlinludwig | wonder if that helps map popularity |
| 23:49.16 | timecat | idling? |
| 23:49.28 | merlinludwig | after victory condition |
| 23:49.56 | merlinludwig | i guess it takes 2 hours to play a full standard game |
| 23:50.04 | timecat | yea |
| 23:50.11 | timecat | thats why i added a mode for a short game |
| 23:50.22 | merlinludwig | i should add a chatcommand: -rush |
| 23:50.41 | Dustin | Huge lag on wave 15 |
| 23:51.53 | merlinludwig | matter of fact...that would be great, add a rush setting, instead of a timer, the next wave spawns after the last one dies lol |
| 23:52.07 | timecat | o geez that'd be hard |
| 23:52.23 | merlinludwig | call it the "spartan" mode |
| 23:52.56 | merlinludwig | maybe up the bounties slightly to compensate |
| 23:53.28 | merlinludwig | lol, maybe i should try playing hard first |
| 23:53.39 | timecat | yea |
| 23:53.44 | timecat | hard mode is *hard* |
| 23:54.08 | merlinludwig | hey...hop on sc2 real quick...i wanna test my votekick system |
| 23:55.53 | merlinludwig | its totally dynamic, so i wanna make sure it works |
| 23:56.03 | timecat | ok |
| 23:58.16 | merlinludwig | crap....1 sec |
| 23:58.20 | timecat | k |
