| 00:09.14 | merlinludwig | http://www.google.com/m?hl=en&gl=us&client=ms-android-verizon&source=android-browser-type&action=devloc&q=sc2+attach+units |
| 00:09.25 | merlinludwig | Does that help? |
| 00:09.52 | merlinludwig | Im not sure cause my abused phone cant load it at the moment |
| 00:10.36 | merlinludwig | Woops...wrong link too |
| 00:10.38 | merlinludwig | http://www.google.com/m/url?client=ms-android-verizon&devlocsession=off&ei=1ONWTviwNsmesQfT6eLiAg&gl=us&hl=en&q=http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/928-trigger-attaching-unit-to-each-other/&source=android-browser-type&ved=0CBQQFjAA&usg=AFQjCNFNYT34C2eFdRQFYxZsU4VnKZ21DA |
| 00:10.48 | merlinludwig | Damnit!!! |
| 00:10.57 | merlinludwig | Starting to hate this phone |
| 00:19.53 | Vailreth | well shit |
| 00:19.58 | Vailreth | no ptr for me |
| 00:20.18 | XorioZ | yo Vail finally got ya |
| 00:20.28 | Vailreth | hey Xor |
| 00:20.35 | XorioZ | did you read my post on the forum |
| 00:20.44 | XorioZ | anyways sry for the absence |
| 00:20.56 | Vailreth | i just got back from dinner and no problem now that your back |
| 00:21.05 | XorioZ | haven't given up on the prject |
| 00:21.10 | XorioZ | :) |
| 00:24.17 | Vailreth | me neither but i have been working on other things in the downtime, non sc2 or editor related things |
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| 00:25.46 | Vailreth | damn i wanted to get into the ptr too |
| 00:42.59 | Dustin|Work | JademusSreg |
| 00:52.41 | JademusSreg | ? |
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| 02:23.40 | Frostwind | Hello, anyone know lights??? |
| 02:24.11 | Apple_of_Tempest | can somone make me a model of novas head by itself |
| 02:24.18 | Apple_of_Tempest | so it can attach novas head to nova head |
| 02:24.21 | Apple_of_Tempest | and have a Big Head mode |
| 02:24.25 | Apple_of_Tempest | ^^ |
| 02:24.43 | Apple_of_Tempest | srsly |
| 02:24.45 | Apple_of_Tempest | som1 |
| 02:24.48 | Apple_of_Tempest | anyone |
| 02:25.56 | JademusSreg | I'm not a modeler. |
| 02:26.07 | JademusSreg | But isn't there a model request forum? |
| 02:26.22 | Apple_of_Tempest | www.autodesk.com/3ds-Max |
| 02:26.36 | Apple_of_Tempest | that should help you |
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| 02:27.20 | Apple_of_Tempest | its a joke, my games not even finished i cant be thinkin bout big heads! |
| 02:27.21 | Apple_of_Tempest | u crazy |
| 02:27.31 | Mexa_ | Hello |
| 02:27.45 | Mexa_ | Anyone here somewhat good at discrete matematics? |
| 02:27.52 | Mexa_ | I have a problem :| |
| 02:28.04 | Apple_of_Tempest | Deaod is the math master |
| 02:28.17 | Apple_of_Tempest | ask for his favor |
| 02:28.42 | Apple_of_Tempest | with a lifebloom to offer at sunset |
| 02:29.58 | Mexa_ | I suspect he's asleep :| |
| 02:31.36 | Apple_of_Tempest | i find myself allways doing some insane mathmatics |
| 02:31.46 | Mexa_ | Damn polynomial long division isn't straighting out... |
| 02:32.24 | Apple_of_Tempest | but only while rolling on the floor screaming and keeping notepad open, so when, and if anything comes to me, i can write it down b4 I think about it, cuz then its gone |
| 02:41.57 | Dustin | Thats the only way to do math |
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| 02:47.58 | Dustin | Sup sixen |
| 02:49.26 | Sixen | o/! |
| 02:54.15 | Mexa_ | nvm, solved |
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| 03:02.22 | Tzuqris | anybody active? |
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| 03:47.49 | Apple_of_Tempest | physically active? sexually active? doubt it |
| 03:58.33 | merlinludwigcomp | wth?? i gots some issues with my code |
| 04:00.34 | merlinludwigcomp | if i put ability in gamelink var and use ability command conversion in trigger, it works. if i put ability command conversion in datatable and use datatable reference in trigger it doesnt |
| 04:00.51 | merlinludwigcomp | dont make no damn sense...it should work either way |
| 04:03.22 | Apple_of_Tempest | my menu bar on the editor.. and every other interface |
| 04:03.25 | Apple_of_Tempest | just disapered |
| 04:05.46 | Apple_of_Tempest | nvm that wasnt a weird hotkey i pressed, that was the editor crashing |
| 04:09.07 | merlinludwigcomp | lol...easy fix then |
| 04:16.24 | Frostwind | anyone know lights??? |
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| 04:48.42 | Tzuqris | gah i'm pulling my hair out over this dang shrike turret |
| 04:48.56 | Tzuqris | the only thing it does is sit and spin |
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| 05:01.25 | Keyeszx | How do you create the grid for a FFT style game? Kind of like this http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/9525/ss2a.png |
| 05:02.28 | Apple_of_Tempest | they are models i think |
| 05:03.42 | Apple_of_Tempest | kinda like an aoe circle that follows terrain height |
| 05:03.51 | Apple_of_Tempest | wraps around the terrain mesh i mean |
| 05:08.16 | Keyeszx | so they're splats? |
| 05:10.33 | Tzuqris | that one looks like its probably an alpha mapped plane |
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| 06:50.44 | Currydevil | ~seen rndmobjcts |
| 06:50.46 | purl | rndmobjcts <182195ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.33.149.237> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 9h 20m 31s ago, saying: 'what do audio files format need to be to import them?'. |
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| 08:14.03 | harl | *wobble wobble* |
| 08:18.06 | merlinludwig | 3 hours past bedtime but i finally did it. |
| 08:18.43 | merlinludwig | Merlin's Power Tower Framework 1.0 is complete |
| 08:19.07 | merlinludwig | Now i just need to get it to timecat for closed beta testing |
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| 08:21.28 | merlinludwig | In the meantime im gonna start thinking about otherr things i need to make, such as a voting/gamemodeselect system |
| 08:21.37 | Helral|Work | meow? |
| 08:27.00 | Currydevil | arf |
| 08:27.04 | Clord | so far I have found that keeping voting away from map works wonders.... otherway to prevent ragequitting of course would be that default setting is selected unless 100% vote certain game mode |
| 08:27.16 | Clord | but then those voters who want to play that mode ragequits |
| 08:27.17 | Clord | XD |
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| 09:32.01 | Clord | would be nice to be able to get date and time via trigger if wanted.... I could automatize my aprils' fool trigger ^^ |
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| 09:43.56 | onetwo | sup |
| 09:49.11 | onetwo | fine no deal! |
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| 10:37.15 | RndmObjcts | anyone know how to take the shadow off of a model in the editor or if its even possible? |
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| 10:48.41 | Dogmai | Helral|Work: oi |
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| 12:02.14 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 12:02.52 | JademusSreg | Rndm, isn't there a no shadow flag on an actor somewhere? |
| 12:07.02 | Ashamed | good mornz |
| 12:07.59 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 12:08.35 | JademusSreg | Been reading about the TrueSkill ranking employed by XboxLive. |
| 12:08.48 | JademusSreg | Might try to implement it in mah map. |
| 12:10.19 | RndmObjcts | JademusSreg: no i cant find one in the model or actor D: |
| 12:10.47 | JademusSreg | Rndm, I'll take a look after I'm done reading my morning articles. |
| 12:11.03 | RndmObjcts | ok |
| 12:14.31 | Ashamed | wow |
| 12:14.38 | Ashamed | jade up early this morning? |
| 12:14.53 | Ashamed | blizzard really did do good on this patch for the mapping community |
| 12:14.55 | JademusSreg | I awaken whenever my daughter awakens. |
| 12:15.11 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I have a friend testing the PTR, telling me the good details. |
| 12:15.13 | Ashamed | I awaken at 4:00 AM :( |
| 12:15.30 | Ashamed | and my Son normally wakes me up aroudn 6:00 on weekends |
| 12:17.38 | JademusSreg | My daughter is too much like me, and keeps odd hours. |
| 12:18.17 | JademusSreg | Anyway, what have you been working on lately Ash? |
| 12:19.55 | Ashamed | nothing been really busy |
| 12:19.59 | Ashamed | I just got a new job and moved |
| 12:20.19 | Ashamed | I have not even been on my computer in like 3 weeks lol |
| 12:20.49 | Ashamed | but i pretty much got my lvl up tree done for that golems map |
| 12:21.09 | JademusSreg | http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/08/alt-text-teens-social-media/ |
| 12:21.26 | JademusSreg | Humorous article. |
| 12:21.38 | JademusSreg | Riffs on a recent study and facebook. |
| 12:22.00 | JademusSreg | Your level up tree has mutually exclusive paths, doesn't it? |
| 12:23.57 | Ashamed | lol |
| 12:24.09 | Ashamed | i didnt really use social networks as a kid |
| 12:24.11 | Ashamed | or really now |
| 12:24.43 | JademusSreg | I like having footholds, so to speak. I make accounts, fill in as few details as possible, and ignore them. |
| 12:27.23 | Ashamed | yeah me too |
| 12:27.24 | Ashamed | lol |
| 12:27.43 | Ashamed | I have not added a picture since Highschool |
| 12:27.49 | Ashamed | but my wife tags me in everything |
| 12:27.53 | Ashamed | so i still have recent pics up |
| 12:28.43 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 12:31.09 | JademusSreg | Watching a trailer for Final Fantasy 12-2 makes me wish SquareEnix would allocate its resources to making a -good- Final Fantasy game. |
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| 12:34.52 | Ashamed | oh |
| 12:34.55 | Ashamed | a trailer is released |
| 12:34.57 | Ashamed | i must go watch |
| 12:35.33 | Ashamed | but jade the sad thing about rpgs there have been hardly any good ones for like 10 years |
| 12:35.43 | Ashamed | not just final fantasy |
| 12:35.47 | JademusSreg | I'm inclined to agree, mostly. |
| 12:36.39 | JademusSreg | It's as though SE is trying to recapture what made FF7 a phenomenon back in the day by doing the same old shit. |
| 12:36.48 | JademusSreg | It changes shit, but fails to innovate. |
| 12:37.56 | Ashamed | and then we also have these productions that take less then a year to make |
| 12:37.59 | Ashamed | >< i am like no |
| 12:38.07 | JademusSreg | I probably would have hated FF10 less if it offered higher level logic controls for the gambits. |
| 12:38.29 | Ashamed | i thought ff10 was alright |
| 12:38.53 | Ashamed | I thought they changed 10 enough from their earlier games... that it was good |
| 12:39.09 | JademusSreg | I hated it, the way I hate something that had potential to be so much more interesting. |
| 12:39.39 | Ashamed | the honest truth... ff13 is prob the last rpg i have actually beaten though |
| 12:39.40 | JademusSreg | The gambits and the lack of options for them, to be specific. |
| 12:39.56 | Ashamed | like since ff10-2 lol |
| 12:40.11 | Ashamed | what were the gambits? |
| 12:40.16 | Ashamed | i dont recall the name >< |
| 12:40.35 | JademusSreg | The mechanic for programming the behaviors of your party members when not directly controlled. |
| 12:41.01 | Ashamed | couln't you just control everyone ? |
| 12:41.32 | JademusSreg | There's just no good reason to make gambit options unlockable, much less to limit the logic controls. |
| 12:41.58 | JademusSreg | You could if you acted and then quickly shuffled to someone else, in principle, sure. |
| 12:42.38 | JademusSreg | Talking about gambits gives me an idea for a map idea worth prototyping. |
| 12:43.47 | JademusSreg | There were old robot games where the gameplay consisted of programming the decision making of your robot, and then you would watch them battle. |
| 12:44.37 | JademusSreg | A premise shared by the Ruby-based game Ruby Warrior. |
| 12:53.03 | JademusSreg | http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20110826.gif |
| 12:57.08 | Ashamed | n3rd version of whos on third base |
| 12:57.11 | Zanryu | freaky chemists |
| 12:57.17 | JademusSreg | Yes, haha. |
| 12:57.30 | JademusSreg | That's some good schtick. |
| 12:57.44 | Ashamed | You would think that |
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| 13:12.15 | Ashamed | where is nash :( |
| 13:13.27 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 13:13.28 | Ashamed | yeah Jade i thought so... Gambit was in 12 |
| 13:13.30 | Ashamed | wasn't it >< |
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| 13:13.40 | ClayMuffin | Somebody out there? |
| 13:13.46 | Zanryu | nope |
| 13:13.46 | Zanryu | ^^ |
| 13:13.47 | JademusSreg | I've not played FF12. |
| 13:13.50 | ClayMuffin | Haha |
| 13:13.53 | JademusSreg | I thought it looked like poop. |
| 13:14.21 | ClayMuffin | Can I bother you crowd with a galaxy related question? |
| 13:14.40 | ClayMuffin | Trigger actually... pretty basic shit I can't get over with |
| 13:14.53 | Zanryu | just ask |
| 13:15.00 | Zanryu | anybody may help you |
| 13:15.20 | ClayMuffin | I'm actually makeing a pull down dialog that make you choose one of the 15 player |
| 13:15.49 | ClayMuffin | the thing is, i dont know how to refer to the last selected player |
| 13:16.10 | ClayMuffin | i tried making a player group variable that would change each time one of the pull down item is selected |
| 13:16.32 | ClayMuffin | so when i click another button, it would create a marine for the specified player |
| 13:16.49 | ClayMuffin | i got blocked at tha variable modification |
| 13:17.15 | ClayMuffin | for the player variable, only player group seem available |
| 13:17.35 | ClayMuffin | Do something Events Dialog - Any Dialog Item is used by Player Any Player with event type Changed Selection Local Variables Conditions (Used dialog item) == Pull Down Actions General - Switch (Actions) depending on (Selected list item of (Used dialog item) for (Triggering player)) Cases General - If (1) Actions Variabl |
| 13:17.35 | Dustin | Are you using a list box |
| 13:17.37 | ClayMuffin | crap |
| 13:17.43 | ClayMuffin | any way to displaying triggers? |
| 13:17.46 | ClayMuffin | ya |
| 13:17.51 | Zanryu | start a loop which will check the list box dialog item that was chosen |
| 13:18.06 | Zanryu | or easier: |
| 13:18.18 | ClayMuffin | i made a general switch action |
| 13:18.20 | Zanryu | hm... |
| 13:18.25 | Zanryu | or that |
| 13:18.28 | ClayMuffin | with bunch of "if" |
| 13:18.35 | ClayMuffin | one for each player |
| 13:18.36 | ClayMuffin | so 15 |
| 13:18.40 | Dustin | https://pastee.org/ |
| 13:18.42 | Zanryu | yeah |
| 13:18.45 | Dustin | copy pastet he trigger there for me |
| 13:18.50 | Zanryu | but what exactly doesn't work? |
| 13:19.09 | ClayMuffin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:19.16 | ClayMuffin | o i see |
| 13:19.16 | Dustin | ClayMuffin |
| 13:19.20 | Dustin | post it in the pastee |
| 13:19.21 | Dustin | :P |
| 13:19.51 | ClayMuffin | done |
| 13:19.58 | ClayMuffin | i touch it would format it for this chat |
| 13:20.01 | ClayMuffin | lol |
| 13:20.10 | Dustin | Now give met he link it spit ou at you |
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| 13:20.38 | ClayMuffin | paste id 43ths |
| 13:20.39 | Dustin | Irc doesnt format code :P |
| 13:20.45 | ClayMuffin | what a shame XD |
| 13:20.51 | Dustin | huh |
| 13:21.08 | ClayMuffin | or https://pastee.org/43ths |
| 13:21.12 | ClayMuffin | ok i see |
| 13:21.19 | ClayMuffin | better like that |
| 13:21.20 | JademusSreg | I don't see any galaxcy. |
| 13:21.23 | JademusSreg | *galaxy |
| 13:21.34 | Dustin | Its triggers |
| 13:21.37 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 13:21.48 | JademusSreg | "Can I bother you crowd with a galaxy related question?" |
| 13:21.50 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 13:21.56 | Dustin | ya :P |
| 13:21.57 | ClayMuffin | i think the problem is in my variable modification |
| 13:22.06 | ClayMuffin | here is the unit creator trigger |
| 13:22.08 | Dustin | Whats the values of your list boxes |
| 13:22.17 | Dustin | Cause that switch is gonna have to match that |
| 13:22.19 | Zanryu | why you don't set the variable to triggering player? |
| 13:22.24 | ClayMuffin | im jusr gonna put the 3 triggers |
| 13:22.32 | ClayMuffin | it's in global |
| 13:22.38 | Zanryu | eh nope |
| 13:22.40 | Zanryu | me stupid |
| 13:22.57 | Zanryu | but same why |
| 13:23.04 | JademusSreg | Why do you use a condition when you could set the Any Dialog Item parameter to the dialog item in the condition? |
| 13:23.05 | ClayMuffin | first one |
| 13:23.07 | Zanryu | way* |
| 13:23.23 | Zanryu | why you don't set the variable to number of list box index? |
| 13:23.41 | ClayMuffin | could be |
| 13:24.02 | ClayMuffin | and make the player variable change accordingly with the selected item list? |
| 13:24.08 | ClayMuffin | index* |
| 13:24.29 | Zanryu | should work yeah |
| 13:25.01 | ClayMuffin | well... the thing is, lets say " if list item index 1 selected, change list index variable to 1" |
| 13:25.16 | Zanryu | yep |
| 13:25.16 | ClayMuffin | then i would need it to also refer to player one |
| 13:25.30 | ClayMuffin | if selected list item index is one, change player variable to 1 |
| 13:25.43 | Dustin | actually |
| 13:25.57 | Dustin | Theres a trigger that selects the selected list item |
| 13:26.37 | ClayMuffin | what is is called? |
| 13:27.24 | ClayMuffin | Melee Initialization Do something Create Marine Current Player = (Empty player group) <Player Group> Dialog = No Dialog <Dialog> Pull Down = No Dialog Item <Dialog Item> |
| 13:27.26 | ClayMuffin | opps |
| 13:27.36 | ClayMuffin | dont look at that, it's messed up shit |
| 13:27.48 | Dustin | Selected List Item |
| 13:28.00 | Dustin | Right there |
| 13:28.04 | Dustin | Just got that shit to work |
| 13:29.02 | Dustin | https://pastee.org/cduef |
| 13:29.09 | Dustin | https://pastee.org/4b2u8 |
| 13:29.20 | Dustin | That should give you what you need |
| 13:29.38 | Dustin | It returns the index of the selected list item |
| 13:29.54 | Dustin | so if you add the playes in sequintial order itll return their player number |
| 13:30.29 | ClayMuffin | returns their player number? |
| 13:30.58 | Dustin | It will if you add the players in sequintial order |
| 13:30.59 | ClayMuffin | i see |
| 13:31.09 | Dustin | That function returns the index of the list box selected |
| 13:31.24 | Dustin | so if they select player 2 and that was the 2nd item added, it'll return 2 |
| 13:32.41 | Ashamed | Jade 10 did not have a gambit system.. you controled everyone yourself! |
| 13:32.45 | Ashamed | !!!!! |
| 13:33.14 | Ashamed | 12 is the first game where you did not control every character |
| 13:33.19 | Ashamed | because it was kinda like mmo style |
| 13:33.56 | Ashamed | http://www.cl1p.net |
| 13:34.02 | Dustin | AShamed, get off work and bring me some nug |
| 13:34.10 | Ashamed | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.15 | Ashamed | been since tuesday |
| 13:34.25 | Dustin | Daaaaamn |
| 13:34.31 | Ashamed | interresting site clip.net |
| 13:34.37 | Ashamed | works well for remote tech like me ;) |
| 13:34.54 | Dustin | that is pretty interesting |
| 13:34.56 | Ashamed | prob wont get any until tomrrow |
| 13:35.18 | Dustin | Yeah, gonna go donate some plasma for extra monies today |
| 13:35.22 | Dustin | might get a quarter |
| 13:36.36 | ClayMuffin | https://pastee.org/fqkpe |
| 13:36.45 | ClayMuffin | why do i get a errow message |
| 13:36.51 | ClayMuffin | an error* |
| 13:36.58 | Dustin | Whats the error |
| 13:37.24 | Dustin | I had one about not making my lsit box long enough or something |
| 13:38.15 | ClayMuffin | could not get text from parameter UIDisplayMesage |
| 13:40.32 | Dustin | Just have it spit out the index |
| 13:40.37 | Dustin | dont worry about the text |
| 13:40.43 | Dustin | Unless you have another reason for it |
| 13:41.28 | ClayMuffin | in the end, the goal of specifying a player is that it will create a unit with specified player as owner |
| 13:41.39 | ClayMuffin | the text only is there for debug purpose |
| 13:41.51 | Dustin | Ya |
| 13:41.53 | Dustin | just do the index |
| 13:41.59 | Dustin | It'll spit out 1 for palyer 1 |
| 13:42.03 | Dustin | 2 for player 2 and so on |
| 13:42.20 | Ashamed | dustin i got teh moneyz |
| 13:42.25 | Ashamed | but my card expried mid aguest |
| 13:43.04 | Dustin | Ahhh snap |
| 13:43.19 | ClayMuffin | https://pastee.org/qdajj |
| 13:43.19 | Dustin | See I dont have the monies, but I gotta the contacts :P |
| 13:43.21 | ClayMuffin | done? |
| 13:43.34 | ClayMuffin | im not sure im setting the player group variable correctly |
| 13:43.39 | Dustin | Oh |
| 13:43.42 | Dustin | You dont have to use PlayerGroup |
| 13:43.49 | ClayMuffin | o? |
| 13:44.00 | Dustin | You can just set Current Player = Selected List item of Used Dialog |
| 13:44.01 | Zanryu | convert player to player group |
| 13:44.04 | Dustin | no use for the switches |
| 13:44.18 | Zanryu | or that if you don't need player groups |
| 13:44.35 | ClayMuffin | i just need a single player, but i didn't knew how to reffer to it |
| 13:44.35 | Dustin | Variable - Set Current Player = (Selected list item of (Used dialog item) for (Triggering player)) |
| 13:44.38 | Dustin | That's all you need |
| 13:44.55 | Zanryu | yyep selected dialog item |
| 13:45.11 | ClayMuffin | ima change that and try it |
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| 13:48.53 | Ashamed | well i could get it fromt eh streets |
| 13:48.58 | ClayMuffin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:48.59 | Ashamed | but it would be like twice as much >< |
| 13:49.13 | ClayMuffin | idk how to skip the player group bracket before your partç |
| 13:49.25 | ClayMuffin | maybe i dont have the good type of variable? |
| 13:49.28 | Dustin | Get rid of the palyer group |
| 13:49.39 | Dustin | Click on the braket left of playergroup |
| 13:49.47 | Dustin | so you can redefine what function its using |
| 13:50.04 | Dustin | and from there do the selected list item |
| 13:50.18 | ClayMuffin | none is |
| 13:50.27 | ClayMuffin | let me check that again for a sec |
| 13:51.22 | ClayMuffin | i dont see anything relevant there |
| 13:51.27 | ClayMuffin | what founction would you use? |
| 13:51.58 | ClayMuffin | could the problem be my variable? curent player is a player group variable |
| 13:52.35 | Dustin | yes |
| 13:52.38 | Dustin | make it an integer |
| 13:52.42 | ClayMuffin | haha |
| 13:52.45 | Dustin | :P |
| 13:54.02 | tampa1adam | if (triggering unit is suicidal == true) { kill triggering unit; } |
| 13:54.03 | ClayMuffin | now it works :D |
| 13:54.13 | Dustin | :D |
| 13:54.21 | tampa1adam | 8) |
| 13:56.05 | ClayMuffin | https://pastee.org/etehr |
| 13:56.11 | ClayMuffin | sais it all |
| 13:57.05 | Dustin | Your player variable |
| 13:57.13 | Dustin | or |
| 13:57.18 | Dustin | that selected dialog |
| 13:57.30 | tampa1adam | put triggering player |
| 13:57.32 | Dustin | you know on your debug how it was spitting out 1 2 3 etc |
| 13:57.36 | Dustin | no |
| 13:57.40 | Dustin | dont listen to tampa1adam |
| 13:57.51 | ClayMuffin | D: |
| 13:58.01 | Dustin | (Selected list item of (Used dialog item) for (Triggering player) |
| 13:58.12 | Dustin | But |
| 13:58.17 | ClayMuffin | yes the thign is i want to put the player variable, but you made me change it for an integer |
| 13:58.19 | Dustin | You should be setting a local var |
| 13:58.22 | Dustin | with (Selected list item of (Used dialog item) for (Triggering player) |
| 13:58.23 | ClayMuffin | hum |
| 13:58.33 | Dustin | Then use that variable so you can use it again later if you want |
| 13:58.36 | Dustin | it'll jsutb e easier |
| 13:58.52 | JademusSreg | It's also more efficient. |
| 13:58.53 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 13:58.57 | Dustin | Player = Integer |
| 13:59.02 | Dustin | that's all it is |
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| 13:59.28 | Dustin | The only time you'll use playergroup is when the function runs for an entire playergroup |
| 13:59.29 | JademusSreg | (Any value you use more than once within a scope ought to be set to a variable.) |
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| 14:00.40 | ClayMuffin | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.46 | ClayMuffin | the and of god just touched me |
| 14:00.49 | ClayMuffin | hand* |
| 14:01.04 | tampa1adam | lol I remember when I first heard that it clicked in my head and everything made so much more sense |
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| 14:01.25 | Dustin | hehe |
| 14:01.56 | tampa1adam | netsplits? |
| 14:02.15 | Dustin | DeaodMau5 |
| 14:02.35 | ClayMuffin | HOLY CHRISTMAS CINNAMON JESUS BISCUIT, IT'S WORKING |
| 14:02.44 | ClayMuffin | ty dustin |
| 14:02.55 | Dustin | No problemm |
| 14:02.57 | ClayMuffin | especially for the "Player = Integer, that's all it is" part |
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| 14:03.04 | ClayMuffin | really made it |
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| 14:05.07 | Dustin | Glad I could help :) |
| 14:06.56 | tampa1adam | the GUI makes me feel like a real programmer, but then I look at galaxy script and realize I'm n00b :< |
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| 14:26.16 | ClayMuffin | whats the codong language for galaxy? |
| 14:26.18 | ClayMuffin | java? |
| 14:30.08 | Dustin | uhh |
| 14:30.10 | Dustin | Galaxy |
| 14:30.11 | Dustin | lol |
| 14:30.20 | Dustin | Galaxy IS the coding langauge |
| 14:30.39 | Dustin | It's blizzards own half assed attempt at a c based langauge |
| 14:33.53 | ClayMuffin | they go as far as making their own language... |
| 14:34.01 | Dustin | Kind of |
| 14:34.08 | Dustin | It's more of a scripting language |
| 14:34.18 | Dustin | They had Jass for wc3 |
| 14:34.38 | Dustin | and SC1 has some really crappy version the gui triggers compile down to |
| 14:34.54 | ClayMuffin | gui? |
| 14:35.00 | Dustin | graphic user interface |
| 14:35.03 | Dustin | The Triggers you do |
| 14:35.14 | ClayMuffin | ok |
| 14:35.38 | ClayMuffin | man i'm soo far behind... even that noob friendly editor require some real commitment |
| 14:35.45 | ClayMuffin | big time |
| 14:36.00 | Dustin | Shits pretty intense, you gotta dedicate some serious time to master |
| 14:36.29 | ClayMuffin | thats why making a map totally on your own seem like crazyness |
| 14:36.34 | ClayMuffin | better work in team |
| 14:36.48 | Dustin | Yeah, but i have the problem where my team members stop working on stuff and disappear |
| 14:36.56 | ClayMuffin | hugg |
| 14:37.00 | ClayMuffin | thats bad |
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| 14:37.34 | ClayMuffin | not "hugg" in term of hugging, but more the onomatopea |
| 14:37.55 | ClayMuffin | but |
| 14:38.12 | ClayMuffin | the only thing I'm worried of is behing able to do more in less time |
| 14:38.20 | ClayMuffin | a simple trigger took me about 2h |
| 14:38.33 | ClayMuffin | can't even immagin making 300 that are 4-5 time for complex |
| 14:38.41 | ClayMuffin | would take me a 1000 hour |
| 14:38.51 | Dustin | They get easier as you understand the flow and functions better |
| 14:39.41 | Dustin | Ive been mapping since SC1, hardcore in WC3 and Ive been sc2 mapping since beta, so ive got alot of experience with their flow of shit |
| 14:39.52 | Dustin | The Data editor though, fuck it's complicated |
| 14:40.09 | Dustin | Im maybe half way through learning all of it after a year+ |
| 14:40.14 | ClayMuffin | as a kid, i was toying with the editor of all the game but could really never do something i was nice with |
| 14:40.36 | ClayMuffin | kinda whats driving me XD |
| 14:40.44 | ClayMuffin | and making game is nicer than playing them |
| 14:41.36 | Dustin | Im getting ready to start a Game Programming degree at University of Advanced Technology |
| 14:41.49 | ClayMuffin | anyway, gtg, i'll go play a custom to get a break from variables XD |
| 14:41.51 | ClayMuffin | nice |
| 14:42.00 | Dustin | hehe, k, lata man |
| 14:42.09 | ClayMuffin | i do'nt want to get into that as my job, just a hobby I like to invest severals hours a week |
| 14:42.20 | ClayMuffin | severals XD |
| 14:42.44 | ClayMuffin | se ya lata dude |
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| 14:56.12 | merlinludwig | Morning people |
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| 15:15.50 | Otixa | Sixen |
| 15:15.56 | Otixa | Sixen |
| 15:15.59 | Otixa | stabs Sixen |
| 15:16.21 | Otixa | Wake up! >:[ |
| 15:17.47 | Otixa | Sixen Sixen Sixen |
| 15:18.45 | Dustin | ~seen Sixen |
| 15:18.52 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (12h 31m 10s) #wowuidev (12h 31m 10s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 12h 29m 26s, last said: 'o/!'. |
| 15:18.52 | Dustin | !seen sixen |
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| 15:19.28 | Otixa | >:| |
| 15:20.03 | Otixa | I blame fucking Xaragoth for all this |
| 15:20.13 | Dustin | For all what |
| 15:20.20 | Otixa | EVERYTHING |
| 15:20.23 | Otixa | TANTUM |
| 15:20.29 | Dustin | What are you even talking about |
| 15:20.38 | Xaragoth | I blame the economy. |
| 15:20.41 | Otixa | It's a sikktir |
| 15:20.47 | Otixa | sikkrit |
| 15:20.51 | Otixa | close enuff |
| 15:20.55 | Otixa | kicks Xaragoth |
| 15:21.03 | Otixa | Also, stop trying to rape Bushy |
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| 15:47.07 | Ashamed | woot |
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| 15:47.12 | Ashamed | http://www.inc.com/inc5000/list |
| 15:47.32 | Ashamed | my company made 1079 on INC top 5000 growing private companies |
| 15:50.30 | Ashamed | thats right |
| 15:50.39 | Ashamed | tell me your jelouse |
| 16:04.35 | Ashamed | everyone is SOOOO QUIET |
| 16:05.52 | Torhal|work | We're ashamed. |
| 16:06.44 | Ashamed | ahhh too bad :( |
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| 16:23.00 | JademusSreg | Haha |
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| 17:06.28 | ClayMuffin | whats up in there? |
| 17:06.30 | Ashamed | HUUUUNGRY |
| 17:06.39 | ClayMuffin | you should be ashamed |
| 17:07.06 | ClayMuffin | Anybody already blew up his map by accident? |
| 17:07.08 | Ashamed | YOU SHOULD BE |
| 17:07.19 | ClayMuffin | I kinda crashed mine badly |
| 17:07.34 | ClayMuffin | idk why, all attack animation suddently went crazy and turned into tank animation |
| 17:07.43 | ClayMuffin | explosion occuring on the caster |
| 17:08.02 | ClayMuffin | marine and jim raynor hero losing attack animation and sound |
| 17:08.13 | ClayMuffin | why the fuck did this happened? |
| 17:10.19 | ClayMuffin | sais "can only create on Cactor per effect (splash damage) |
| 17:12.41 | ClayMuffin | same message for each damage effect |
| 17:12.44 | ClayMuffin | of every units |
| 17:12.51 | ClayMuffin | anybody can help? |
| 17:13.46 | JademusSreg | Sounds like some bad duplication / references. |
| 17:14.41 | ClayMuffin | you mean core stuff? |
| 17:14.50 | ClayMuffin | i check it and no core were modified |
| 17:14.53 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 17:14.59 | JademusSreg | I don't mean core stuff. |
| 17:15.22 | JademusSreg | How old is this map? |
| 17:15.34 | JademusSreg | The time between when you last worked on it and now |
| 17:15.40 | ClayMuffin | quite old, but it was damaged 3 days ago by... me |
| 17:15.56 | ClayMuffin | i havent made any other modifications after it crashed |
| 17:16.10 | JademusSreg | Patches can mess with field arrays. |
| 17:16.17 | ClayMuffin | i know the last thing i touched was an ability and a misille unit |
| 17:16.18 | JademusSreg | So an early patch could have done it. |
| 17:16.29 | ClayMuffin | early patch? |
| 17:16.35 | ClayMuffin | you mean some backup? |
| 17:16.40 | JademusSreg | But patches lately have been better about it and people ought to know better than to duplicate. |
| 17:16.51 | JademusSreg | Naw, not some backup. |
| 17:17.07 | ClayMuffin | o i see what you mean |
| 17:17.12 | ClayMuffin | you mean game patch |
| 17:17.15 | JademusSreg | I'm refer to the fact that changes made by patches to field arrays, like actor events, tend to messs things up. |
| 17:17.16 | ClayMuffin | yes... |
| 17:17.33 | JademusSreg | Anyway, you |
| 17:17.46 | JademusSreg | You've got two actors to the same effect. |
| 17:17.51 | JademusSreg | "can only create on Cactor per effect (splash damage) |
| 17:18.14 | JademusSreg | Check your actor tokens. |
| 17:20.13 | ClayMuffin | i dont know where to search since ALL attack actor are messed when game starts |
| 17:21.15 | JademusSreg | Start by setting your data filter to only data defined in the map. |
| 17:21.23 | JademusSreg | There is a dropdown menu for that. |
| 17:22.25 | ClayMuffin | done |
| 17:22.32 | ClayMuffin | btw |
| 17:22.41 | ClayMuffin | even core untouched units are affected |
| 17:22.49 | ClayMuffin | the regular tank tlost all attack animation and sound |
| 17:23.12 | JademusSreg | Interesting. |
| 17:23.22 | JademusSreg | Extract the data for me or show me the map. |
| 17:23.26 | JademusSreg | I'd like to see it. |
| 17:23.57 | ClayMuffin | want me to chow you on skype? |
| 17:24.00 | ClayMuffin | show* |
| 17:24.06 | ClayMuffin | or how do you extract data? |
| 17:24.15 | JademusSreg | Use an MPQ Editor. |
| 17:24.23 | JademusSreg | Extract the GameData folder. |
| 17:24.36 | ClayMuffin | MPQ? |
| 17:24.51 | JademusSreg | Yeah, it's an archive format. |
| 17:24.58 | JademusSreg | All maps and mods are just mpqs. |
| 17:25.50 | ClayMuffin | test |
| 17:25.58 | Hati | success |
| 17:26.25 | ClayMuffin | well... |
| 17:26.34 | ClayMuffin | idk if i can do that since i have a mac |
| 17:26.51 | ClayMuffin | i'll look around for a mac editor |
| 17:29.49 | ClayMuffin | Seem I can't get the mac editor to work |
| 17:30.06 | ClayMuffin | ill just send you the map then |
| 17:30.10 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 17:30.17 | ClayMuffin | how should i? |
| 17:30.24 | JademusSreg | Dropbox, preferably. |
| 17:30.28 | JademusSreg | Or email. |
| 17:30.44 | JademusSreg | Or file transfer over irc. |
| 17:30.55 | JademusSreg | If your client supports it. |
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| 17:32.36 | Tempest | these maps may be able to be 256x256, but 256x256 seems much much smaller in sc2 than in warcraft 3 |
| 17:32.53 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 17:33.16 | JademusSreg | It's the scale involved. |
| 17:35.13 | Tempest | my map is a shooter, and my 1st "map" takes up about 7/10 of the maps height, and takes exactly 1/2 of the maps width, meaning i can add another map of the same size next to this one, or maybe slighly smaller, and make a 3rd map thats 3/10th height by 10/10 width >> |
| 17:37.31 | ClayMuffin | how do you tranfsfer over IRC? |
| 17:37.47 | ClayMuffin | dropbox is installed, but i might read a bit more over it's functionning |
| 17:37.48 | tampa1adam | DCC send |
| 17:38.22 | tampa1adam | though the recipient & sender must be using the irc client, and not the web app |
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| 18:33.06 | merlinludwig | Ditto ashamed |
| 18:33.44 | merlinludwig | So guys, what would be a good approach to a voting system? |
| 18:35.01 | ClayMuffin | what kind of voting system are you looking for? |
| 18:35.14 | ClayMuffin | whats the parameter you want to cover |
| 18:35.17 | merlinludwig | Not sure yet. |
| 18:35.21 | ClayMuffin | parameter(s) |
| 18:36.09 | ClayMuffin | well you better figure that out before starting any triggers XD |
| 18:36.30 | merlinludwig | I know timecat's votekicking system is broken at the moment...and whathisface had an issue with gamemode voting |
| 18:37.13 | merlinludwig | So what im thinking is a barebones vote system with parameter creation functions |
| 18:37.14 | ClayMuffin | a votekick should not be to hard to do usually |
| 18:37.28 | ClayMuffin | barebone? |
| 18:37.39 | merlinludwig | No...it just is broken at the moment...easy fix im sure |
| 18:37.45 | merlinludwig | Yes barebone |
| 18:37.54 | merlinludwig | Is that a bad approach? |
| 18:38.12 | ClayMuffin | idk what barebone means lol, english aint my first language |
| 18:38.24 | merlinludwig | I like reusable code for some ungodly reason |
| 18:38.31 | ClayMuffin | haha |
| 18:38.34 | merlinludwig | What is ur first language? |
| 18:38.39 | ClayMuffin | french |
| 18:38.50 | ClayMuffin | I'ma french canadian |
| 18:38.59 | merlinludwig | Can help u there, mine is german |
| 18:39.15 | merlinludwig | Im a german american |
| 18:39.21 | ClayMuffin | donc tu parles un peu français? |
| 18:39.25 | ClayMuffin | haha nope you dont then XD |
| 18:39.47 | ClayMuffin | only germen from germany would learn french as their second language,. No? |
| 18:39.48 | merlinludwig | Nein, aber ich kenne deutsch |
| 18:39.55 | merlinludwig | No |
| 18:40.09 | ClayMuffin | even in america? |
| 18:40.31 | merlinludwig | In europe english is mandatory as second language. I assume its same in canada |
| 18:40.40 | ClayMuffin | it is |
| 18:40.52 | merlinludwig | And yeah, im an immigrant...became an american in '95 |
| 18:41.12 | merlinludwig | But anyways...barebones |
| 18:41.26 | ClayMuffin | define barebone? |
| 18:41.47 | ClayMuffin | which is reusable? As a trigger? |
| 18:41.48 | merlinludwig | Basically make a vote system that has no specific parameters |
| 18:42.01 | ClayMuffin | i see |
| 18:42.10 | merlinludwig | I was thinking library, bunch of functions |
| 18:42.22 | ClayMuffin | the big del then |
| 18:42.25 | ClayMuffin | deal* |
| 18:42.43 | ClayMuffin | your already over my knowledge, I wont be able to solve that issue my friend XD |
| 18:43.13 | ClayMuffin | barebone might be harder to do tough |
| 18:43.14 | merlinludwig | Dont kid urself...i do everything in gui cause im lazy |
| 18:44.11 | ClayMuffin | well... gtg now |
| 18:44.14 | ClayMuffin | see ya later |
| 18:45.27 | merlinludwig | Sigh...me and my "one to rule the all" programming |
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| 19:19.17 | merlinludwig | Omg im a genius |
| 19:20.39 | merlinludwig | I just jotted down some functions of my concept vote design and realized i would be able to make an in-game vote layout designer. |
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| 19:34.37 | Apple_of_Tempest | whats the most efficent way of making a unit temorary(die/removed afte a duration) thru triggers? |
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| 19:39.30 | Vailreth | any one else feel the new workflow "improvments" to he data editor are kinda er shit? |
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| 19:53.54 | Apple_of_Tempest | i foudn out how nvm |
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| 20:02.18 | CosmicPanda | hmm |
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| 20:07.46 | Vailreth | hm |
| 20:27.04 | merlinludwig | Hiya folks...i got 15 minutes to annoy u guys :P |
| 20:28.51 | monoframe | try your best |
| 20:30.22 | merlinludwig | Well...im designing functions for a vote system framework |
| 20:30.42 | merlinludwig | Gotta make it as barebones and expandable as possible |
| 20:31.54 | merlinludwig | That way it can be used to make any kinda of vote system, whether it be kick votes, gamemode votes, or even voting on what kinda unit the team should send |
| 20:35.12 | merlinludwig | Designing expandable framework is complex |
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| 20:38.56 | timecat | Added raw XML editing mode to Data Editor. |
| 20:38.57 | timecat | fuck |
| 20:38.58 | timecat | yes |
| 20:39.39 | merlinludwig | Lol |
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| 20:41.40 | merlinludwig | Hey timecat, i think ur gonna like the vote system im coming up with (im designing it similar to my power transfer system, and youre gonna like that too :P) |
| 20:43.51 | merlinludwig | Sadly im afraid it'll be a bit more complex do to the amount of functionality im adding |
| 20:44.33 | Apple_of_Tempest | Okay |
| 20:44.49 | Apple_of_Tempest | Anyone up for some good Third Person Shootah Testin on US? |
| 20:44.57 | Apple_of_Tempest | I need me atleast 2 testas |
| 20:46.37 | timecat | did you add a unit is sold trigger to the power systeM? |
| 20:52.59 | Apple_of_Tempest | i need 1 more tester |
| 20:53.01 | Apple_of_Tempest | anyone |
| 20:53.02 | Apple_of_Tempest | US |
| 20:53.05 | Apple_of_Tempest | third person shooter |
| 20:53.11 | Apple_of_Tempest | garenteed to impress |
| 20:55.09 | Apple_of_Tempest | kajwndkajwnd |
| 21:00.37 | Apple_of_Tempest | last call |
| 21:00.41 | Apple_of_Tempest | US |
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| 21:55.10 | Vailreth | need softer music too much Metal |
| 22:03.20 | deathnight114 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LanVRR_Szo0 |
| 22:03.38 | deathnight114 | Dubstep then. (trancy dubstep) |
| 22:03.40 | deathnight114 | lol |
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| 22:28.01 | merlinludwig | Is there any way to make new labels in the trigger editor? |
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| 23:35.57 | CosmicPanda | hmm |
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