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00:30.30JademusSregNash, I added an advertisement for Frontline to my map loading screen in the update released today.
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00:34.13________________~dice roll
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01:53.05Nash-327cools JademusSreg
01:53.19Nash-327maybe people will play it on NA too soon :G
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02:04.27Nash-327sleepybedtime
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02:48.55Mexa_Ish, what a day...
02:49.06Mexa_Math isn't fun after a couple of hours :z
02:50.02Currydevillol
03:06.43________________~asd
03:06.43purli guess asd is Advanced Sound Daemon at http://sourceforge.net/projects/asd/
03:12.35JademusSregpurl has the best guesses.
03:13.28________________Steve Jobs resigned!
03:13.29________________o no
03:15.45JademusSregI care nothing for the cult of Apple, but I am inclined to respect Jobs and his accomplishments.
03:16.20CurrydevilHmm, GIMP doesn't like me today
03:16.38________________thats the only reason i said it
03:16.45________________without jobs
03:16.48________________apple is um...
03:16.50________________not apple
03:17.07Currydevilapple core?
03:17.26________________lol thats a good way to place jobs
03:17.29________________as the apple core
03:20.41Currydeviltrying to add a softglow or some neon glow to my text in gimp, but I can't seem to figure it out.
03:20.52________________get photoshop
03:20.57Currydevillol.. I don't recall it being this difficult to do what I wanted in photoshop
03:21.01Currydevilbut it's been a long time.
03:21.03Currydevil>.>
03:21.06Currydeviland I can't afford ps
03:21.18________________use sumopaint
03:21.22________________its the free alternative
03:21.34Currydevilgimp is too, but it's not doing what I want.
03:21.52Currydevilmaybe my paintshop will help me.. lol
03:22.11________________lol paintshop
03:22.13________________i used 2 use that
03:22.16________________back when i coded mugen
03:25.40Currydevilthis is dumb, it won't let me pick a color for the glow.. at all
03:25.46Currydevilshows me black in the preview.
03:31.14________________send it to me I will glow it 4 u
03:34.44Currydevili got it now.
03:57.15________________awesome
03:57.20________________lol even tho i saw this late
03:57.22________________bad me
03:57.24________________~punish
03:57.25purlrahul needs to be punished
03:57.32________________huh? thats not me
03:57.42________________bad purl
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05:36.52soulcarveranybody ever have the problem when uploading maps where it just sits there and theres no progess.... says my map file size is 0 as well
05:39.44soulcarverso its starting to look like my map file is corrupted..... sigh
05:44.13soulcarversigh I cant upload my map it just hangs.... god damnit
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06:06.42KeyeszxWhat's going on tonight
06:06.49Keyeszxeven though I'm leaving in probably 10 min
06:07.53soulcarverkeys can you help me test something
06:07.55soulcarverare you on NA?
06:08.35Keyeszxya I'm on NA
06:08.38Keyeszxwhat is it?
06:08.48soulcarverredoing my variant file at the moment
06:08.54soulcarverthen need to test my leaver trigger
06:12.49soulcarverstill here keys?
06:14.48Keyeszxsorry trying to sync my iphone while doing three other things
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07:05.43soulcarveranybody know why my "set catalog field value "killresource[0]"  action no longer works?
07:05.49soulcarversays it cant write it
07:05.54soulcarverbut it used to work just fine
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07:39.29soulcarveranybody here?
07:49.35Currydevilmaaaybe
07:49.40Currydevildepends on whose asking =O
08:04.38soulcarverso yeah
08:04.48soulcarverBlizz updated the set catalog field value triggers
08:05.03soulcarvermy existing code works but causes error
08:05.18soulcarverrecreate it from scratch using same exact settings and no error
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12:03.38ClayMuffinAnybody up there?
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12:21.20Ashamedhmmm
12:21.34Ashamedshould i pre-order the starwars mmo?
12:21.35Ashamedor no
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12:47.18tampa1adamthere needs to be a trigger to set player handicap
12:55.59ClayMuffini know hot o do that
12:56.10ClayMuffinwhat would be the handicap?
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14:08.32Mexa__hm
14:09.51Ashamedwho wants to play the starwars mmo ??? :)
14:09.51Shadow_KillerNot so lonely anymore. =D
14:10.05AshamedYOU ARE LONELY
14:10.10AshamedMR. LONEY
14:11.54Mexa__You have no body-
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14:16.49sorrowgatenyan nyan nyan nyayanyanyanya
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14:26.33XorioZBUH!
14:30.44Mexa_So, upon this autumn, we're having a course about 'Software architecture and design'
14:31.07Mexa_Now, why the hell do they suggest the reference literature to be "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance: An Inquiry Into Values" ?_?
14:33.33Mexa_http://www.adlibris.com/se/product.aspx?isbn=0688002307 ... yeah, really do sound relevant
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15:03.38DustinWish I had a SWOTR beta :(
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15:47.54Ashamedmexa
15:48.05Ashamedthem people that created that map for dialogs are creating a windows app
15:48.10Ashamedis that yours?? you guys workign together?
15:48.26Dustin:O
15:48.27DustinNice
15:49.31Ashameddustin you should get the new starwars mmo :0
15:49.36Ashamedwhen it comes out
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15:51.31BeierHello
15:51.38DustinPlannin on it :D
15:58.23Mexa_Ashamed, are you talking about desiderus?
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15:58.53Mexa_I saw indeed that he is going for a such project as well
15:59.17Mexa_oh, not desiderius, Doubotis
16:00.16Mexa_lol
16:00.25Mexa_He progressed far more than me I see
16:01.37Mexa_oh
16:01.41Mexa_when to think of it
16:01.44Mexa_He hasn't
16:01.50Mexa_We're on the same level I guess
16:03.33Mexa_Aw, he have gotten before me
16:03.57Mexa_The question remains tho, if he is using windows forms with the standard system.drawing, it's going to blow.
16:04.38Beierhow far are you?
16:04.56Mexa_Well
16:05.08Mexa_Tbh, not very afr of I wanted
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16:05.52Mexa_You can create a dialog, set it's size, position, anchor, visibility and image visibility
16:06.20BeierOkay
16:06.34Mexa_And functionality for proper scalings are implemented, so that the dialog adjusts correctly based on the surface size, and resolution/aspect ratio
16:07.03Mexa_Oh
16:07.07Mexa_And blendmodes work too
16:09.13Mexa_Beier, if you have anything to say, speak:p
16:09.43Mexa_Such as 'I want to dump you, I will do my own since you are a lazy bum'
16:09.53Mexa_lol
16:10.46BeierHehe.. no, ofc I won't dump you.. got some big features to do myself :p
16:11.11Mexa_I see
16:11.55Mexa_Well, I'm planning to work on it tomorrow, and possibly get alot things done. I have a math exam tomorrow, so today will be for studying.
16:12.10BeierI really need to add support for mods, and I might need to change parser to escape lalr(1) limitations..
16:12.23Mexa_lalr?
16:12.39Beieremm.. it's a parser algorithm
16:12.44Mexa_yeah, the mods would be great, form the part where I come in the picture too ;P
16:12.49Mexa_*from
16:12.57Beierhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LALR_parser
16:13.22Mexa_oh
16:13.25Mexa_so it's like GOLD?
16:13.55Mexa_ah yes
16:14.05BeierMeh.. lalr(k) has to determine what the user is typing by only looking k tokens ahead.. that sometimes makes it difficult
16:14.06Mexa_GOLD is using LARL(1)
16:14.22Mexa_oh
16:15.43Beieratm. I have difficulties implementing static methods/fields in generic structs, and generic methods.. the syntax conflict with the less than and greater than operators... but changeing parser is a bit time consuming
16:19.29Mexa_right
16:20.11Ashamedyeah mexa
16:20.14Ashamedit looked nice
16:20.27Ashamedi was going to tell you if that wasn't your project that you prob should just scrap it lol
16:20.37Ashamedbecuase i think he is going to get it out soon ><
16:23.04Mexa_meh
16:23.18AshamedMEH
16:23.20Ashamedits ok though
16:23.29Ashamedthat other game you are working on = 100X better
16:23.32Ashamedhow is that going?
16:23.55Mexa_Ashamed, unless he doesn't do anything about the rendering, it will not be nice.
16:24.13Mexa_Ashamed, it's also halted for 1-2 weeks or so
16:24.14Ashamedi bet he alrady did it
16:24.17tampa1adamno way to set handicap via triggers..?
16:24.19Ashamed-.-
16:24.21Ashamedoh the game
16:24.23Mexa_We only work on it when we all are available
16:24.28Ashamed:( wahts going on with the rendering
16:24.39Mexa_No, I mean his rendering:p
16:24.57Ashamedoh
16:24.59Mexa_The game is going well
16:25.10Mexa_But I have a NDA kind of
16:25.35BeierMight be a silly question, but does it really matter that much? Sure alpha blending and stuff will probably be easier, but most dialogs are static.. so fps won't matter that much
16:25.53Mexa_Beier, it will matter
16:26.03Mexa_Have you seen Vestras moonlite map studio?`
16:26.10Beieryeah
16:26.19BeierI havent used it that much though
16:26.29Mexa_Then you should not what I am talking about. Ever try resizing the window, and it will lag like hell.
16:27.17Mexa_Yes, it wont matter much in that way you say Beier, since if done correctly, you should only be needed to repaint the scene when it is changing
16:27.40Mexa_These changes happend when resizing for instance
16:27.49Mexa_Or modify any component value
16:28.06tampa1adamhttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1213111662
16:28.16Mexa_It will matter, since all the features can not be provided with GDI+
16:28.28Mexa_And it will matter, because it is not hardware accelerated.
16:28.30Beierwell.. calculating the size can be put in a seperate thread, so it doesn't lag
16:28.42Mexa_Beier, calculations are nothing
16:28.48Mexa_It's not the problem
16:28.53Mexa_The problem is drawing.
16:29.06Mexa_GDI+ /is/ slow
16:29.13Mexa_And also without support on windows 7
16:29.40Mexa_(which means, software rendered, not optimized)
16:30.52Mexa_Alpha will be decently easy in system.drawing, but try the other blendmodes, for instance ._.
16:31.26BeierAre you sure it will be easy to make it half way transparent in system.drawing?
16:31.33Mexa_no
16:31.54Beiermany controls have a partially transparent texture
16:31.59Mexa_yes
16:32.00Mexa_I know
16:32.31Mexa_If we take as assumption that a texture was in png format, it do render those properly with alpha
16:32.33Beierwell.. it doesn't really matter.. I wouldn't make it in windows forms if I made it either.
16:32.40Mexa_But with extra transparency? Hardly
16:32.59Mexa_Yeah Beier, I started there actually:P
16:33.06Mexa_And I saw the reason to switch
16:33.54Mexa_I've seen similar problems before, such as the AddOn studio for wow. Their designer was a mess too, didn't properly render and was slowing down the program.
16:34.19Mexa_Anyways, nagging completed now.-.
16:34.56Ashamed-.-
16:35.07Mexa_Nownow ;D
16:35.10BeierIt's not really surprising that using the gpu to draw is faster than the cpu..
16:35.30Mexa_Considering the extreme amount of cores gpus have
16:35.34Mexa_yeah
16:35.38Mexa_Not surprising:P
16:36.18Ashamedlol
16:36.44Ashamedmexa you dont have one of them new quad-core GPUs?
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16:36.58Mexa_Idk
16:37.43Ashamedbummer :(
16:37.59Ashamedbut on a seriouse not didnt they just release a few quad-sli boards?
16:38.23Ashamedserious note*
16:38.42Mexa_No idea either:P
16:43.20Ashamedhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130693
16:43.22Ashamedthere it is
16:43.32Ashamedthat proc is better then most peoples 2 slis put together
16:43.39Ashamedyet it can quad sli ><
16:43.42Ashamedthat GPU*
16:43.45Ashamednot proc lol
16:45.50Mexa_looks neat
16:46.10monoframewait, shouldn't it be hex sli? If you can string 4 cards together, each having 2 gpus, that should make a 8 gpu total..
16:46.33monoframeas the 2 gpus inside one card are already sli'ed...
16:46.47monoframeor is my knowledge severely dated?
16:46.58Beierhex = 16, no? octal = 8
16:47.02monoframewell, yeah
16:47.03monoframederp
16:48.43monoframeSearched some, and well, seems somewhat true: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/5814/2_x_nvidia_quad_sli_when_four_gpu_s_is_not_enough/index.html
16:49.03Ashamedoh yeah
16:49.09Ashamedmono mby then its on 2 that youc an do
16:49.11Ashamedi dunno
16:57.04XorioZSo did ppl miss me :)
16:57.51merlinludwigHey, anyone use unit ids in their map scripts?
16:57.53Mexa_http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/3359129#blog¨
16:57.57Mexa_http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/3359129#blog *
16:58.54XorioZnumber 6 clearly wins
16:59.12Mexa_haha, I thought so too
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17:01.14XorioZfinally back after 3 ½ weeks of afk and no Kituns from nash :(
17:01.20monoframemel gibson bottom left
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17:02.15merlinludwigHello people (maybe i should start with a greeting)
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17:02.51XorioZwell greetings then :)
17:03.36merlinludwig(Now for the questions)(lol)
17:04.03merlinludwigSo, does anyone use unit ids in their maps?
17:04.16Zanryumoretheless
17:05.10merlinludwigIm trying to decide whether i should give up on mapmaking and focus on trying to help the community via library making
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17:07.35merlinludwigI've already made a nifty unit id setup for my own use. It's just one function, getunitid. Returns string = UnitX
17:07.50merlinludwigWould that be useful for anyone else?
17:08.18Zanryui also insert that in my map so it isn't something spectacular^^
17:08.46XorioZnot for me. no.. not really.
17:09.48Sixenwhy did nobody tell me about ptr 1.4!
17:09.50Sixenso many changes
17:10.00Zanryulook @ forums sixen^^
17:11.58Hobrowoh sixen :D
17:14.49Mexa_woot
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17:20.20Mexa_"Syntax highlighting for galaxy script and XML data can now be disabled."
17:20.33Mexa_Would be much better if they fixed it, instead of hiding the problem
17:20.38Mexa_...
17:21.02Mexa_Since they mess up in the current anyways :|
17:21.31SixenTruth :X
17:22.10Hobroweh? Fixed script editor slowdowns related to syntax highlighting.
17:22.13Mexa_Added raw XML editing mode to Data Editor.
17:22.21Mexa_Sounds nice tho
17:22.41Mexa_But I bet it comes without autocompletion features..
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17:32.56Sixenactually Mexa_ they did: "Fixed script editor slowdowns related to syntax highlighting."
17:33.03Sixenand yeah, raw XML editing, I amexcite
17:33.09Mexa_oooh
17:33.11SixenI asked them to add that a long time ago :)
17:33.25Mexa_Well then, hopefully it's all better now
17:39.14JademusSregI awaken.
17:39.48JademusSregNew patch?
17:42.50Mexa_on ptr it seems
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17:42.58JademusSregAh.
17:43.20Mexa_http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1213111662
17:43.47Mexa_Pretty long list
17:43.55JademusSregYep.
17:43.58JademusSregNeato.
17:48.03JademusSregSignificant cut to ultra build time.
17:48.28JademusSregToo bad they can still get tangled on zerglings.
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17:52.55JademusSregSome impressive changes.
17:56.51JademusSreg"Added Handle of Player trigger to query a player’s Battle.net handle."
17:56.56JademusSregIntruiging.
17:58.45Mexa_aye
18:01.21Ashamedwow shit
18:01.26Ashamedi just about SHIT my pants
18:01.38AshamedI was taking a nap on lunch like everday
18:01.40JademusSregHaha, gross.
18:01.42Ashamedgetten energized.
18:01.48Ashamedand i just hear this giant fucking explosion
18:01.50Ashamedand it woke me up
18:02.03Ashamedand like i litterally expected to see a flash a fire come kill me
18:02.14Ashamedbut it was just 2 fighter jets playing Tag
18:02.53AshamedThese were fast jets too.. they flew over like 6 times
18:02.59Ashamedand they would be gone instantly
18:03.27AshamedBut yes Sonic Booms sound like explosions when you are sleeping
18:03.38JademusSreg=D
18:06.55AshamedALMOST FRIDAY!
18:08.43Mexa_I'm off
18:08.45Mexa_bye
18:09.21JademusSreg"Quitting out of a map will now cause the player leave trigger event to be dispatched before the player actually exits which will give triggers a chance to change the victory/defeat state."
18:09.23JademusSregYesss.
18:12.46Ashamed-.-
18:12.51Ashamednice
18:12.55Ashamedand you can force saves
18:12.56Ashamedin maps
18:13.47JademusSregI've just been saving banks constantly, haha.
18:14.04JademusSregWhen this patched is released, I'll do it at the end.
18:15.56Ashamedyeah for sure jade
18:15.57Ashamedme too
18:16.04Ashamedin my map i save the bank when some dies
18:16.07Ashamedwhen someone kills
18:16.19Ashamedwhen they change something
18:16.25JademusSregI've been saving every second, haha.
18:16.28Ashamed>< i wonder if d/c would still get it
18:16.44AshamedWow jade... even in your map you prob did not need to do that
18:16.55Ashamedat least now you dont need to optomize it
18:17.38JademusSregTrue dat
18:18.06JademusSregI save a bunch of stats on players, including total time played.
18:19.29JademusSregAnd with the addition of ranked matches, I also display ranked match stats in a togglable menu.
18:23.03tampa1adamjademus
18:24.02JademusSreg?
18:24.08tampa1adamsup
18:24.14JademusSregHi thar.
18:24.24JademusSregJust reading about the new patch.
18:24.30tampa1adamahh
18:25.06JademusSregOn the public test realm. Not in the wild yet.
18:25.43tampa1adamI see, looks good for the editor stuff
18:25.52JademusSregYup.
18:25.59tampa1adamI wondered why there was never dialog enter/exit b4
18:27.01tampa1adamdo you play melee at all jade?
18:27.12tampa1adamor just pro mapper?
18:27.30JademusSregI make maps. =D
18:27.38tampa1adamahh
18:27.39JademusSregI played melee during beta.
18:27.58tampa1adamdo you know if its possible at to set player handicaps via trigger?
18:28.08JademusSregShould be.
18:28.36JademusSregYep.
18:28.46JademusSregPlayer set property
18:28.55JademusSregAnd choose Handicap.
18:29.16tampa1adamI think I'm in love with you
18:29.40tampa1adamthx
18:30.28Ashamed-.-
18:30.32Ashamedwow Jade
18:30.34Ashamedi wish i was here
18:30.40Ashamedi would have someone in love with me right now
18:30.47JademusSregHaha.
18:30.49Ashamedno fair :(
18:31.28Ashamedhttp://gizmodo.com/5834117/beef-jerky+potato-chip-hybrid-is-the-pinnacle-of-human-innovation
18:32.21JademusSregIf they make a jalapeno pepper flavor, I'd eat it.
18:34.00tampa1adami wonder if they're crunchy
18:35.22tampa1adamcherkees LOL what a name
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18:38.36KeyeszxI thought irc would be in an uproar over the editor patch
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18:40.07Owlshey everyone
18:40.12Owlsis there a way to upgrade maximum health
18:40.13DustinTheres an editor patch?
18:40.17Owlswithout upgrading current health?
18:41.01AshamedIncreased maximum number of unit command card buttons per card from 32 to 64.
18:41.06Ashamedthats a helpful one
18:42.04JademusSregThe patch is PTR atm.
18:42.29Dustinanyone got a link to the ptr notes
18:42.47JademusSreghttp://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1213111662
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18:44.45KeyeszxI thought most people on sc2mapster were able to access PTR
18:44.58Keyeszxbtw would you guys recommend me a good bluetooth keyboard?
18:45.02KeyeszxI need it for my ipad
18:46.22Owls- Added a “Transient” flag to the Arm Magazine, Learn, Research, Revive, Specialize, and Train abilities to indicate that the orders should not be added to either the unit’s main order queue or to a queue ability. These orders will complete immediately.
18:46.26OwlsI am so happy :)
18:49.04azkkeyeszx should have bought a laptop
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19:02.50merlinludwigHonestly...i think the best thing blizzard could do is release a patch that makes all editor tooltips complete and uncryptic
19:03.03merlinludwigStill waitin for that patch :P
19:03.46merlinludwigOf course, given their history with wow, it seems tooltips only get worse over time
19:03.48JademusSregHaha.
19:05.08merlinludwigOne day were gonna hop on the editor and the entire gui will display only raw data...just u wait
19:07.12merlinludwigHey jade, remember what u said bout mod>framework?
19:08.09JademusSregYup.
19:08.27merlinludwigWhat would u consider a plugnplay subengine library, mod or framework?
19:08.53Ashamedbought an ipad :(
19:09.13Owlsoh Jademus, I played frontlines
19:09.16Owlsit's really fun :)
19:09.32JademusSregMerlin, sounds like a framework with a modularity focus.
19:09.56merlinludwigLol...thats what im hoping for
19:10.00JademusSregThe issue I take with frameworks, though, is that development for them is a niche, and it's a niche within a niche.
19:10.31merlinludwigWell im hoping to exploit that subnitch
19:10.51JademusSregHi Owls, you can thank Nash.
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19:10.57JademusSregI just publish it for him. =D
19:11.04Owlsoh ok
19:11.08OwlsNash padre?
19:11.20JademusSregNash if not online as the moment, though.
19:11.29Owlsmmk
19:11.52merlinludwigIt would make my maping easier if i just make a bunch of reusable libraries. And im thinkin, if it helps me, maybe it'll help others to
19:13.40JademusSregRTL coverage of gamescon is comical.
19:13.40merlinludwigLooking at other peoples code, it just seems like theres a real need for some OOP concepts.
19:13.51JademusSreg*gamescom
19:14.14JademusSregAbsolutely Merlin. That's why Beier is developing Galaxy++
19:15.59JademusSregSo far it is the frontrunner in galaxy oop functionality.
19:16.19JademusSregAndromeda had its chance, but geX is unreliable.
19:16.21Owlswhat kind of additions is he making?
19:16.30merlinludwigWell...as my as i like the thought, i want to make it even easier. I for one am too lazy to begin learning another language, so i do everything gui.
19:16.52JademusSregHaha.
19:17.00JademusSregThat is a terrible way to live.
19:17.07merlinludwigMy goal is to make some plugnplay libs that help out gui developers
19:17.10JademusSreghttp://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/third-party-tools/19619-galaxy-editor/
19:17.28JademusSregOOP in GUI, goodluck with that.
19:17.55merlinludwigAlready doing it myself ;P
19:18.28JademusSregWithout some sort of preprocessor and language extension, it's just a set of conventions and habits.
19:18.43merlinludwigYes
19:19.08merlinludwigI miss classes...but hey, everything can be emulated
19:19.36Owlsthat's pretty cool
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19:22.24JademusSregMonday Night Combat was already had strong MOBA elements, Super Monday Night Combat looks like it will appeal to the traditional MOBA players.
19:23.13Vailrethdamn how do you access the ptr...
19:25.59Vailrethnever mind the patcher for ptr chrases as soon as launched
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20:06.35Ashamedstupid hurricanes
20:07.07JademusSreghttp://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/files/2011/08/Shingo.jpeg
20:07.15Currydevilwow dialogs are awful today. Anchoring a label to the center of my dialog and it's anchored to left center .....
20:07.27Currydeviland top, anchored to left top
20:07.35JademusSregCurry, that's the style alignment.
20:08.12Ashamedseems legit to me jade
20:08.19Ashamedif its written then it must be
20:08.21JademusSregNearly all styles are left aligned.
20:08.27Currydevilthere is a style alignment for the text itself yes, but the anchor of the label.
20:08.29Currydevilnot the style.
20:08.53Currydevillast I checked anchor != style
20:09.31Currydeviland with a top left anchor, what point does it serve to set the center anchor to top left as well?
20:09.40AshamedJESUS WAS ASIAN
20:09.47JademusSregHaha
20:09.50Ashamedand ran.. and made his bro die
20:09.52Ashamedinstead of him
20:09.54Ashamedhe was like FUCK that
20:10.27AshamedHe told his brother dont worry Father will save you he told me
20:10.46Ashamedand then his brother was on the verge of death and was like FATHER why have you forsaken me .... * Crickets*
20:10.48JademusSregHaha
20:11.03Currydevilanyways, the anchors aren't working.
20:11.07Currydevilproperly.
20:13.30Currydevilnice, now with a 0,0 offset the label anchored to the top is outside the dialog top left =X
20:15.38OwlsI am trying to create an effect that spawns a unit to replace a unit that is being targetted
20:15.43Owlsbasically a switch out
20:15.57Owlsis there a way to do this?
20:16.43Currydevilsure
20:17.10Currydevilat least, i can think of .. making it kill the targeted unit and create the new one.
20:17.26tampa1adamwhy cant girls just put out like normal people
20:18.27Currydevilhates anchors right now and must rely on offsets.
20:18.32Owlshmmm
20:18.39JademusSregHaha
20:18.42OwlsI need the original one alive
20:19.07OwlsI just want all things that targetted the first
20:19.10Owlsto target the second
20:19.29JademusSregYou'll need to override the the order to target the second unit.
20:19.37Owlsyea
20:19.44Owlsbut there are many different types of orders
20:19.56Owlswill I have to deal with all of them separately?
20:20.07JademusSregNaw, just detect them all.
20:20.11Currydevilwell ain't that a load.. The Top Right anchor is set on the center spot...
20:20.12Ashamedyou could prob make it in trigger easy ><
20:20.18JademusSregAnd sort it out in the condition, if you're using GUI.
20:20.21Currydeviler "top"
20:20.26Owlsoh a trigger
20:20.29CurrydevilI wonder what top left is going to be.
20:20.36Owlsok, I've only been using data so far
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20:20.45JademusSregYes. What you want is not practical in data.
20:21.09CurrydevilSo says Jade who doesn't know what anchors are this fine afternoon =P
20:21.26Ashamedanchors stop boats from floating away curry
20:21.28Ashamedeasy
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20:21.31Ashamedanything else?
20:21.33CurrydevilLol
20:21.34JademusSregCurry, I work with dialogs constantly. Haha
20:21.35Ashamed:)
20:21.36JademusSregYou silly.
20:21.58AshamedJade... that was very gay of you to say
20:22.08CurrydevilNvm, I just realized ... you're right, but tblizz is stupid for setting it up that way.
20:22.28Currydevilfor any other dialog item the anchor is it's position relative to the parent dialog.
20:22.33Currydevilfor a label ... not so.
20:22.37Currydevilwhat a bunch of crap
20:22.53Currydevilbecause it already has "justified" styles you can apply to the text itself
20:23.08Currydevilstupid stupid Blizz
20:23.55Currydevilnow I must make the width of my label bigger in order for the "anchor" to work right.
20:24.51JademusSregAsh, I don't mind seeming a little gay when the situation calls for it. That is true of all actors, some more than others, I expect.
20:25.10Currydevilthis anchor should be located in the text field rather than under the offsets for the label
20:25.21Currydevilit would confuse some one ... =P
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20:25.32mapstermansup sons
20:25.37JademusSregHi thar.
20:26.11mapstermanwhats a thar?
20:26.14Currydevil*sigh* this is frustrating.
20:26.27Currydevilthe label should be relative to the parent dialog. wtf is this.
20:26.36DustinThis boost cliff addition makes me want to make my worms type map now
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20:26.45Currydevilwith a 0.0 the "center" of my label is now hanging out the left edge of the dialog.
20:26.59Currydevil0,0*
20:27.18mapstermancurry, just offset it
20:27.30Currydevilno shit.
20:27.38JademusSreg"Thar" is a corruption of "there". =D
20:27.40mapstermannp sherlock
20:27.47mapstermanah i c
20:27.50mapstermanyo bro
20:27.53CurrydevilI reached that conclusion a while ago. i just felt the need to complain a little more to draw you out.
20:27.59mapstermanhow do you reffer to lobby teams players
20:28.07mapstermanlike if you want play 2 from team 3
20:28.14mapstermanplayer 2 from team 3
20:28.23mapstermanhow do you do dat
20:28.25Currydevil<PROTECTED>
20:28.27Currydevillike that.
20:28.29Currydevilnow go.
20:29.25mapstermantks ¯\_(ツ)_/¯'
20:29.32Currydevilnp
20:29.41JademusSregCurry, that's inefficient.
20:29.55Currydevilwhat?
20:30.01Currydevilhe asked how to ref the players in the lobby
20:30.05JademusSregYou're better off making a playergroup variable and assigning the team to it.
20:30.16Currydevil-.-
20:30.27DustinI want a "Use effect at point (ignore point Z)"
20:30.28Currydevil<PROTECTED>
20:30.28Currydevil<PROTECTED>
20:30.28Currydevil<PROTECTED>
20:30.30JademusSregAnd you can reuse it without the overhead of the repeated function call in the future.
20:30.33Dustinor (use caster Z)
20:30.39Currydevilam i not allowed to just copy/paste the first line?
20:30.47mapstermanbut bro what if you want to reffer to each player idividually
20:30.56CurrydevilI dunno
20:31.00CurrydevilI only used that part
20:31.06JademusSregGotta iterate through the player group.
20:31.12Currydevilto set up my player groups *cough* Jade ...
20:31.15mapstermanlike craete melee units for all players in team 2
20:31.16Currydevil=O
20:31.22mapstermanbut they are all different starting pos
20:31.25mapsterman:/
20:31.45mapstermanah shit this is such a pain .....
20:31.50mapstermanfor somthing so simple
20:32.05Currydevilyou're telling me.
20:32.21Currydeviloffsets because blizzard doesn't make all their "anchors" the same for every dialog item.
20:32.39JademusSregBut Curry, really, that team assigning loop is inefficient.
20:32.42mapstermanyea I had trouble with anchors too
20:32.44Currydevilhow so?
20:33.00CurrydevilI picked all the players from lobby team 1, add them to my team 1 player group
20:33.10JademusSregnative playergroup  GameAttributePlayersForTeam (int team);
20:33.13mapstermanthen i can pick player 1 from player group..
20:33.16Currydevilnot sure how much more inefficient you can get?
20:33.18mapsterman:/
20:33.24JademusSregBecause (Players on team 1) returns a playergroup.
20:33.31JademusSregSo what you're doing is redundant.
20:33.35JademusSregHAha
20:33.39DustinAdd palyer group to playergroup
20:33.42Currydevilso? I cannot refer to my own named player group?
20:33.43mapstermanoh
20:33.44mapstermani see
20:33.49mapstermangood point jade
20:33.57DustinInstead of crawling through each player
20:34.00mapstermanno need to put them in new player groups
20:34.59JademusSregAll you have to do is assign it directly to the variable.
20:35.02Currydevilwell, at least i only made a redundant player group. I was once told to make all local variables in every trigger/function/action def and read all my globals in so the trigger makes more sense.
20:35.05JademusSregPiece of cake.
20:35.20JademusSregHaha, Curry, that is hilarious.
20:35.26JademusSregWho told you to do that?
20:35.28Currydeviltrue story.
20:35.37Currydevilphoenix777 or whatever it is xD
20:35.37DustinAdd Player Group (Lobby Team 1) to Player Group (Local Team 1)
20:35.39DustinBam done
20:35.41JademusSreg=D
20:35.56JademusSregDustin, even that is less than optimally efficient.
20:36.00JademusSregUse Set Variable action
20:36.08DustinDepends on what you need
20:36.13DustinIf you need to remove people from the group
20:36.16JademusSregYourTeamBro = (Lobby Team 1)
20:36.22Dustinya
20:36.27Currydevil<PROTECTED>
20:36.27Currydevil<PROTECTED>
20:36.27Currydevil<PROTECTED>
20:36.27Currydevil<PROTECTED>
20:36.27Currydevil<PROTECTED>
20:36.32Currydevilthere, now i link the whole thing
20:36.35Currydevilis it inefficient now?
20:36.38JademusSregYeah, if you need to modify them in any way, you're better off iterating.
20:37.17Currydevilthe revealer is redundant, yes.. but i will remove it later
20:37.46JademusSregYeah, the first action in the loop is still redundant.
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20:37.55JademusSregUsing a set var directly makes more sense.
20:37.57Currydevil>.>
20:38.11JademusSregTeams[1] = (Players on team 1)
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20:38.30JademusSregDo that before the loop, then loop through Teams[1]
20:38.38Currydevil"makes more sense" that's nice to know. so .... I didn't know that before.
20:38.52JademusSregNo problem.
20:39.05JademusSregIf anything about it is unclear, I'd be happy to explain further.
20:39.11Currydevili got it now.
20:39.14JademusSregkk
20:39.14Currydevilthanks though ;)
20:39.16JademusSreg=D
20:39.20Currydeviljust tell Blizz to fix thair label anchors.
20:39.27JademusSregHaha
20:39.29Currydevilthat is just stupid on their part =D
20:39.34Currydeviltheir*
20:39.49JademusSregWhat's worse is how ineffective the style alignment options are.
20:39.55Currydevilyes, indeed.
20:40.06Currydevili always wondered why the center justify never seemed to work
20:40.12Currydevilbecause the center anchor already does it.
20:41.00merlinludwigsuch complexities...glad im on an ez project
20:41.17Dustin|WorkJade
20:41.26Dustin|WorkIm planning out a sweet turn based map
20:41.30merlinludwigI started over from scratch(again
20:41.32Dustin|WorkThink if you wanna join forces
20:41.36Dustin|WorkIm off to work now
20:41.43merlinludwigTurn based map???
20:41.57Dustin|Workhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mfb2Safa1E
20:42.02Dustin|WorkALong the lines of that
20:42.03merlinludwigDidnt think anyone liked turn based nowadays
20:42.43JademusSregHm.
20:42.53JademusSregI like turn-based for some things.
20:42.54Dustin|WorkWe can attach dialogs to units now
20:42.57mapstermanif you have a repeat forever inside a pick each integer loop and use break action inside the repeat forever will it break both loops or just the repeat forever?
20:42.59Dustin|Workso it'll be easier
20:43.04merlinludwigCiv style map is now being conceptualized in my brain...thanks
20:43.10Dustin|WorkJade, it'll be a more action based turn based map
20:43.24Dustin|WorkIll explain it some more when I get back
20:43.48JademusSregGames with a formidable amount of tactical depth and options needs turns to mitigate the load on the player.
20:44.57merlinludwigAgreed
20:46.55merlinludwigNow...to devise a concept of tech research and unit design based on tech unlocks ala alpha centauri style. Every player will be able to issue commands for a turn, then during off-turn the teching and designing aspects come into play
20:48.57merlinludwigRumaging through memmories of galactic empires lol
20:49.39merlinludwigGod i hate adhd
20:51.36Currydevilwtb dialog previewer. just like seeing a website in the program before you uplaod it.
20:52.57Currydevilaha finally..
20:58.18merlinludwigIs it possible to do function reference in datatable?
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21:44.34FrostwindHello, anyone know lights???
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22:30.49merlinludwigShould i make an ingame scripting system for rapid prototyping or is that just a dumb idea?
22:34.31merlinludwigYeah...dumb idea...testing commands ftw
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22:58.49KeyeszxHow do you get the PTR editor?
22:59.28JademusSregGet the PTR patch. =D
23:00.07KeyeszxAm I just that lost?
23:00.20JademusSreg???
23:00.44Keyeszxnvm
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23:00.59Keyeszxit's just so hot I think my brain is fried a little
23:02.05Keyeszxhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37mPDBsMkEQ&feature=channel_video_title great video, love em
23:04.42KeyeszxSeems there's a problem with PTR at the moment
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23:10.01JademusSregCute video.
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23:11.03KeyeszxHAWP does a lot, I just like the OoT because it reminds me how much I like the music in it
23:11.54JademusSregI don't think I've played a Zelda game since Link's Awakening on the game boy.
23:12.08KeyeszxTry the sims one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rng_W7x6Vi4&feature=related
23:14.39JademusSregUnbearably cute chick.
23:15.16KeyeszxDo you know what Persona 3 is?
23:15.21JademusSregNope.
23:15.31Keyeszxaw, if you know it's actually very funny
23:15.40Keyeszxhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpZpQid-kN8&feature=relmfu
23:15.49Keyeszxthere for anyone who does know what persona 3 is
23:16.13Apple_of_Tempestare players able to change teams at all in the lobby in public games
23:16.17Apple_of_Tempest>>
23:18.06JademusSregThe host cna move people.
23:18.15JademusSregUnless teams are locked.
23:18.20JademusSregThen you're fucked.
23:18.22JademusSreg=D
23:19.48Apple_of_TempestYou: whats your opinion of the new photon cycles, compared to your experience of the old one Zergling: i liked the old one cause of the gaps You: i ahve trouble playing it because people allways pick modes i dont really want to play Zergling: and i feel like i'm going slower
23:20.16JademusSregHm.
23:20.41JademusSregWell, the speed hasn't been changed.
23:21.28JademusSregAs for the gaps, people ought to learn to thread the more difficult gaps.
23:21.50JademusSregIt's not tough unless latency is shitty.
23:21.50FrostwindHello, anyone know lights???
23:27.18JademusSregThough I'm working on ways of reducing latency burden.
23:28.05*** join/#sc2mapster Hobrow (~q@i577AA989.versanet.de)
23:30.09KeyeszxI want to get the PTR patch
23:33.12Apple_of_Tempestuh
23:33.25Apple_of_Tempestdo Dialog button presses have delays
23:33.28Apple_of_Tempestor
23:33.36JademusSregYes.
23:34.34JademusSregA person can spam click a dialog button before it responds.
23:36.14Apple_of_Tempestyeah i have 4 buttons that all become disabled and on cooldown the instant u touch one
23:36.21Apple_of_Tempestand my friend was pressing all 4 at once
23:36.50JademusSregHaha
23:37.03Apple_of_Tempestdidnt seem to break anything tho
23:45.22KeyeszxHow do I attach a muta wing to a t-rex?
23:51.17JademusSreg1) Find Trex 2) Tranqualize with powerful sedatives / magic
23:51.33Keyeszx...
23:51.37JademusSreg3) Find master seamstress.
23:51.46KeyeszxI need help with step 3

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