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| 00:05.33 | merlinludwig | Wierd...my chat program just lost its syntax highlighting |
| 00:05.52 | merlinludwig | Everything in here is black and white |
| 00:10.35 | merlinludwig | If a unit morphs into a different unit, does it retain its custom values? |
| 00:19.28 | timecat | idk i'm not quite sure how morph actually works |
| 00:19.29 | JademusSreg | Yes, it should. |
| 00:19.46 | JademusSreg | Since the unit reference hasn't changed. |
| 00:21.25 | merlinludwig | Good...ok...turning on computer |
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| 00:30.48 | merlinludwig | timecat, u awake? |
| 00:33.09 | timecat | ya |
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| 00:34.56 | Mexa_ | good night/mornin' |
| 00:35.25 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 00:38.02 | Mexa_ | So I bought Trackmania 2 and played some beta |
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| 00:38.15 | Mexa_ | fun fun fun fun! |
| 00:38.31 | ApplesTempest | how do u make a non square preview image? |
| 00:38.41 | ApplesTempest | can u just.. upload it at whatever dimension you want? |
| 00:38.48 | Mexa_ | Add letterbox to the image I think |
| 00:39.01 | ApplesTempest | letterbox.. |
| 00:39.01 | Mexa_ | or try to mask it with alpha |
| 00:39.18 | ________________ | ~letterbox |
| 00:39.21 | Mexa_ | or just test |
| 00:39.26 | ________________ | ~test |
| 00:39.27 | purl | Failed! |
| 00:39.41 | ApplesTempest | i wanna know teh facts |
| 00:39.48 | ________________ | ~facts |
| 00:39.48 | purl | Facts are the things you should use when you add informational factoids. |
| 00:39.49 | ApplesTempest | what are teh exact dimensions of the widest! |
| 00:40.02 | Mexa_ | 256x256 I think |
| 00:40.10 | Mexa_ | Not sure tho ;O |
| 00:40.28 | ApplesTempest | the preview images that are wider than perfect squares on bnet |
| 00:40.36 | ApplesTempest | dont have the border extended like a square |
| 00:40.49 | ApplesTempest | the border actualy fits the preview image as a non square |
| 00:40.59 | ApplesTempest | so i doubt its an alpha thing unless that is somhow detected |
| 00:44.01 | ApplesTempest | seems to be 2x wide |
| 00:44.41 | Mexa_ | I bet 16:9 |
| 00:45.41 | Mexa_ | As in, ~1.78 times wide would be the maximun |
| 00:46.08 | Mexa_ | *maximum, considering that is widescreen |
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| 01:23.07 | ApplesTempest | nah its more than that |
| 01:23.17 | ApplesTempest | going to test mah image now |
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| 01:24.37 | ApplesTempest | yeah my preview image is 512x256, and the box is sitll wider |
| 01:25.03 | ApplesTempest | so you can even make a preview image a little bit wider than that to have it fit perfectly |
| 01:48.04 | ApplesTempest | HELLOOOO |
| 01:48.13 | ApplesTempest | Do you, |
| 01:48.16 | ApplesTempest | Know... |
| 01:49.12 | ApplesTempest | Why the chi.. Where the "Discription Basic" text even goes to? |
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| 02:07.40 | JademusSreg | Probably on the map file description in the editor browser. |
| 02:18.23 | ________________ | Jademus, you made photon cycles right? |
| 02:18.33 | ________________ | I remember seeing your beta dialog screens |
| 02:18.47 | ________________ | screen* |
| 02:26.22 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 02:26.35 | ________________ | Very very professional map |
| 02:26.42 | ________________ | Me likey |
| 02:26.52 | JademusSreg | Thanks. |
| 02:27.28 | ________________ | Do you work with computers for a living? |
| 02:28.47 | JademusSreg | I'm self-taught. I had the poor judgement of majoring in philosophy and psychology at university. |
| 02:32.39 | ________________ | lol 'poor judgement.' That's interesting though.. extra kudos then, since it's not even stemming from a job. |
| 02:36.13 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 02:38.52 | tordy | check ehck cehck |
| 02:38.59 | ________________ | ~check |
| 02:38.59 | purl | i heard check is A unit testing framework for C. See http://check.sourceforge.net/ |
| 02:40.41 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 02:45.14 | ApplesTempest | what are you taught about psychology and philosophy at a university lmao |
| 02:46.12 | ApplesTempest | philosophy, aka thought, no1 can teach u that and if u think they can you are being mislead and doing the complete opposite, |
| 02:46.21 | ApplesTempest | then theres psychology... lol dont even.. |
| 02:46.31 | ApplesTempest | people are funny |
| 02:46.43 | ApplesTempest | just wanna pinch their cute cheeks |
| 02:50.42 | ________________ | lol your sarcasm makes me smile |
| 02:52.29 | ApplesTempest | no sarcasm intended |
| 02:55.44 | ________________ | lol, Then you need to head over to 'university' as they call it for those not in the U.S. |
| 03:02.52 | ApplesTempest | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2co4Ttz3JZ8 |
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| 04:33.26 | Dynast | ~seen Motive |
| 04:33.27 | purl | motive <~Motive@c-68-36-169-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 12d 13h 25m 10s ago, saying: 'Lolol'. |
| 04:33.31 | Dynast | ~seen MotiveMe |
| 04:33.32 | purl | motiveme <~Motive@c-68-36-169-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 177d 10h 5m 1s ago, saying: 'H2I? you making a WC3 map?'. |
| 04:33.47 | Dynast | 12d.. hrm. |
| 04:33.49 | Dynast | ~seen onetwo |
| 04:33.50 | purl | onetwo <ae070843@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.8.67> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 19d 21h 36m 3s ago, saying: 'tutorial money'. |
| 04:33.54 | Dynast | oh crap, 19d |
| 04:35.05 | Dynast | JademusSreg: random ping is random. |
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| 04:36.30 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 04:37.22 | JademusSreg | Using my handle doesn't cause my client to flash. |
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| 04:41.20 | gfever | anyone wanta test strikecraft? |
| 04:41.23 | Keyeszx | Would it be possible to make disgaea style gameplay with triggers only? No data? |
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| 04:41.46 | Keyeszx | what's strikecraft? Is that a gentleman's challenge to a duel? |
| 04:42.05 | JademusSreg | Key, you'll always need actors, so you'll always need data. Unless you intend to do it all via dialogs. |
| 04:42.19 | JademusSreg | Also, same question. |
| 04:42.30 | gfever | first person shooter |
| 04:43.02 | Keyeszx | Oh darn, didn't think about that. Anyways couldn't you use triggers and only actors to make it? |
| 04:43.25 | Keyeszx | Also, what server, NA or EU? |
| 04:43.33 | Mexa__ | It wouldn't work right, since actors are asyncronous |
| 04:43.55 | Mexa__ | They will all differ depending on the graphics. |
| 04:44.32 | gfever | NA |
| 04:44.55 | JademusSreg | If I weren't busy, I would help gfever. |
| 04:45.00 | Keyeszx | Sorry just realized I got college tomorrow so I need to actually get sleep |
| 04:45.02 | JademusSreg | Perhaps tomorrow. |
| 04:45.11 | Keyeszx | I'll be gone in 10-15 min |
| 04:45.15 | JademusSreg | I should have some time available tomorrow. |
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| 04:45.34 | ________________ | lol you just realized |
| 04:46.21 | JademusSreg | College called to remind him about their date tomorrow. |
| 04:46.39 | Keyeszx | damn they figured me out :) |
| 04:46.56 | ________________ | hahahaha |
| 04:47.47 | Keyeszx | If someone were to make a disgaea style game how many main characters do you think there should be? 2, 3, or 4? |
| 04:48.00 | ________________ | 3 |
| 04:48.02 | Keyeszx | by main I mean unique compared to the other classes |
| 04:48.17 | ________________ | i stand by my choice |
| 04:48.35 | JademusSreg | Talking about main characters divorced from the context of a story is comical. |
| 04:49.01 | Keyeszx | the way you used divorced is comical |
| 04:49.06 | Keyeszx | I have no idea how you used it |
| 04:49.07 | Keyeszx | :D |
| 04:49.07 | JademusSreg | Thanks. |
| 04:49.24 | ________________ | agreed |
| 04:49.27 | ________________ | interesting wording |
| 04:49.28 | ________________ | lol |
| 04:49.35 | Keyeszx | Anyone exciting for disgaea 4? |
| 04:49.48 | JademusSreg | Not especially. |
| 04:50.01 | ________________ | ^ |
| 04:50.07 | Keyeszx | neither am i |
| 04:50.54 | JademusSreg | My favorite game is Final Fantasy Tactics, but have no interest in Disgaea, despite people over the years telling me to play it. |
| 04:51.01 | Keyeszx | I can't stand disgaea games on the consoles, I can play them for hours on the PSP or handhelf though |
| 04:51.09 | Keyeszx | handheld* |
| 04:51.26 | Keyeszx | Final Fantasy Tactics is boring as could be |
| 04:51.28 | JademusSreg | "If you like Final Fantasy Tactics, you'll love Disgaea." But I don't. |
| 04:51.40 | Keyeszx | Disgaea is so action oriented compared to FFT |
| 04:52.01 | Keyeszx | FFT takes itself way too serious for my taste |
| 04:53.04 | JademusSreg | You watch anime and are working on an anime ip wanking map, if I remember correctly. I cannot, in good conscience, take your opinions seriously. =D |
| 04:53.28 | Keyeszx | Anime ip wanking map? |
| 04:53.42 | JademusSreg | Anime intellectual property wanking map. |
| 04:53.47 | Keyeszx | You know what's hilarious about sc2mapster you can get added to a team without your true consent |
| 04:53.53 | JademusSreg | Orly? |
| 04:54.05 | JademusSreg | That is hilarious. |
| 04:54.06 | Keyeszx | Ya I was added to a team and the leader got banned so I had to get a mod to take me off |
| 04:54.21 | Keyeszx | this was like three days after I joined sc2mapster |
| 04:54.34 | Keyeszx | then like three months later I'm like why am I on this team |
| 04:54.56 | JademusSreg | Then I retract the previous statement. =D |
| 04:54.57 | Keyeszx | anyways, there is nothing wrong with anime ip maps |
| 04:55.14 | JademusSreg | Now I deretract the previous statement. |
| 04:55.19 | Keyeszx | I was questioning the term wanking in that phrase |
| 04:57.23 | JademusSreg | IP wanking is the appropriation of intellectual property from some other source, especially with regards to names and aesthetics, for use in your own shit. |
| 04:57.49 | JademusSreg | It's just sad. D= |
| 04:58.29 | JademusSreg | Didn't battlenet suffer for years from DBZ and Naruto and whatever other maps? |
| 04:58.55 | Keyeszx | Anime fight was fun |
| 04:58.57 | Keyeszx | or so I heard... |
| 04:59.13 | JademusSreg | Gross. |
| 04:59.47 | Keyeszx | gross? |
| 05:00.19 | JademusSreg | There are animes I enjoy, to be clear. But just because I enjoy something doesn't mean I need to play some poorly designed game dressed up like the thing I enjoy. |
| 05:01.04 | JademusSreg | But gameplay aside, there is the concern about respect for the intellectual property of the artists involved. |
| 05:01.32 | JademusSreg | Not a legal dimension, I could give a shit about those matters of prudency, but rather it is the ethical dimension that concerns me. |
| 05:02.27 | JademusSreg | And part of being an ethical artists is being able to draw inspiration from sources without ripping them off wholesale. |
| 05:02.55 | Keyeszx | I'm sorry Jademus but I can't say I've been following this conversation completely |
| 05:03.00 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 05:03.08 | JademusSreg | No worries. |
| 05:03.23 | Mexa__ | hmm.. IPL is on. |
| 05:03.34 | Keyeszx | I'm just a fan of anime who wanted to support the project and he ended up adding me as someone to balance out the characters |
| 05:03.50 | Mexa__ | I haven't watched sc2 matches in a loooong time. |
| 05:04.05 | JademusSreg | Neither have I Mexa. |
| 05:04.27 | JademusSreg | I find myself getting more stuff done when I'm not watching them. |
| 05:04.30 | Mexa__ | They are, somewhat, quite relaxing to watch, and I'd fall asleep if I did ;P |
| 05:04.45 | Mexa__ | yeah |
| 05:05.13 | Mexa__ | brb |
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| 05:09.16 | Mexa_ | . |
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| 06:28.45 | RndmObjcts | any NA users mind helping me test a function on my map real fast? |
| 06:28.56 | JademusSreg | Were I not busy, I would. |
| 06:29.03 | RndmObjcts | just need one person |
| 06:29.18 | JademusSreg | I'll be available tomorrow though. |
| 06:29.45 | RndmObjcts | well thanks i appreciate it, but by then i should have tested it already. if not i might ask :D |
| 06:29.54 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
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| 07:25.18 | RGAM | Hi everybody! |
| 07:25.32 | RGAM | I'm having a problem I cannot find how to solve. |
| 07:25.55 | RGAM | The infamous spectator / referee problem. |
| 07:28.55 | RGAM | Do someone know the reason of this problem? |
| 07:29.39 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 07:29.47 | JademusSreg | Care to elaborate? |
| 07:29.55 | JademusSreg | I'm not aware of this problem. |
| 07:30.06 | RGAM | I have create a simple map. |
| 07:30.19 | RGAM | And published. |
| 07:30.29 | RGAM | But I cannot, in the lobby, invite spectators. |
| 07:30.43 | JademusSreg | To my knowledge, pub games do not allow spectators. |
| 07:31.03 | RGAM | I create a new game, I don't join. |
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| 07:32.31 | JademusSreg | How many player slots are open? |
| 07:32.46 | RGAM | 2 slots. |
| 07:33.04 | JademusSreg | Custom game variants? |
| 07:33.13 | RGAM | It's a modified version of Xel'naga Caverns that allows the Dark Protoss. |
| 07:33.19 | RGAM | Just 1v1 melee allows. |
| 07:34.03 | RGAM | It has the Campaing dependency. |
| 07:35.06 | JademusSreg | I rmemeber when it was configured from game variants. Then they neutered it. |
| 07:36.05 | RGAM | Can you show me an expample, please? |
| 07:36.15 | JademusSreg | It was removed in a patch. |
| 07:36.17 | JademusSreg | =\ |
| 07:36.23 | RGAM | :( |
| 07:36.51 | JademusSreg | I know, it's dumb fuckin ridiculous. Blizzard, on occassion, is known for these things. =D |
| 07:37.02 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I want be clear. |
| 07:37.20 | JademusSreg | If you create game with spectators enabled, it cannot be made public. |
| 07:37.38 | JademusSreg | And if that game is created in private and then madep ublic, spectators will be disabled. |
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| 07:37.47 | RGAM | I know that. |
| 07:38.06 | RGAM | But I cannot make spectators in private maps, either. |
| 07:38.30 | JademusSreg | Doesi t use melee game variants? |
| 07:38.41 | JademusSreg | That could similarly be problematic. |
| 07:38.49 | RGAM | Yes, it does. |
| 07:39.02 | RGAM | I have this in game variants. |
| 07:40.21 | RGAM | But it has some custom thinks. |
| 07:40.31 | JademusSreg | This problem seems to be pervasive and may not have a solution. I see now why you refered to it as "infamous", haha. |
| 07:40.32 | RGAM | An attribute, a dependency and a trigger. |
| 07:40.56 | RGAM | Yes. |
| 07:41.10 | RGAM | I found that some user coud solve this by creating his own mod. |
| 07:41.21 | RGAM | But I don't find how to do. |
| 07:41.33 | JademusSreg | It used to be easy to set up watcher slots before the patch neutered the editor. |
| 07:42.07 | JademusSreg | Anyway, sorry I cannot be of assistance in this matter. It is beyond my knowledge. |
| 07:42.21 | RGAM | No problem. |
| 07:42.25 | RGAM | Thanks for your time. |
| 07:43.54 | RGAM | :) |
| 07:43.57 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 07:44.11 | JademusSreg | I'm getting in some scripting before I go to sleep. |
| 07:46.32 | RGAM | I found how to create a mod, he, he. |
| 07:46.46 | RGAM | It was too easy that it was impossible to find. XD |
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| 09:15.36 | Vailreth | any one alife and kicking? |
| 09:15.44 | Vailreth | alive* |
| 09:42.06 | merlinludwig | No |
| 09:42.37 | merlinludwig | Its 4:42 in the morning, go to sleep lol |
| 09:45.11 | Vailreth | cant sleep |
| 09:45.21 | Vailreth | had a really frightening nightmare |
| 09:46.01 | Vailreth | it may seem childish but after one i cant sleep for a while |
| 09:51.53 | merlinludwig | Lol...some of those will scar u for life |
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| 10:18.42 | Currydevil | So, I have a region, and a unit group representing units in said region |
| 10:18.53 | Currydevil | trigger events when units enter/leave |
| 10:19.57 | Currydevil | should I just run the same actions I want to happen when a unit dies? (same actions as when a unit leaves the region pretty much) |
| 10:24.46 | merlinludwig | I dont remember if a unit dying counts as it leaving region. Do u want the action to happen if a unit dies as well as it leaving region? |
| 10:25.17 | merlinludwig | My moto: if in doubt, put it in. U can never have too much redundency :P |
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| 11:10.14 | Currydevil | lol yeah, i did that. same actions for unit death too. |
| 11:10.29 | Currydevil | anyways, more problems for the morrow. time for bed and sleeeeeeep |
| 11:32.18 | RndmObjcts | any NA players got a minute and can help me test a function in my map? |
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| 12:05.39 | Nash|327 | surrender all kittuns and kittun related paraphenalia |
| 12:06.02 | RndmObjcts | no >.> |
| 12:06.33 | Nash|327 | Then I must punch your face. |
| 12:06.42 | RndmObjcts | QQ |
| 12:06.44 | Nash|327 | punches your face. |
| 12:06.49 | RndmObjcts | xD |
| 12:14.11 | RndmObjcts | QQ nash, how do you get dialogs and timers to show up if you're using a custom ui? QQ |
| 12:14.28 | RndmObjcts | mine all just disapear QQ |
| 12:14.42 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 12:15.23 | Nash|327 | I create them and show them |
| 12:16.45 | RndmObjcts | yea thats what i did, but when i had my custom ui going they never showed up, as soon as i disabled it though they appeared |
| 12:17.13 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 12:22.10 | RndmObjcts | idk. ive worked around it though so players can still move and shit correctly with the default ui |
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| 12:31.01 | Nash|327 | players can shit correctly? |
| 12:32.32 | azk | the map is called geriatric home |
| 12:32.40 | azk | strategic shits are important |
| 12:33.39 | Nash|327 | the player with the most dignity at end of life wins? |
| 12:33.57 | azk | yes |
| 12:34.12 | Nash|327 | so you shouldn't shit your pants then |
| 12:34.12 | azk | you can get diapers |
| 12:34.23 | azk | but they're a long way from any restroom |
| 12:34.36 | azk | and other ppl can crash their walkers into your hip |
| 12:34.46 | Nash|327 | and diapers give you less dignity? |
| 12:35.02 | Nash|327 | But you won't shit your pants at least. |
| 12:35.13 | azk | diapers lower your overall dignity score but you don't have to worry about going to the shitter |
| 12:35.19 | azk | so you can go around ganking ppl who do |
| 12:35.23 | azk | it's like quad damagwe |
| 12:35.25 | azk | -w |
| 12:37.31 | Nash|327 | hit its weakpoint for massive damage |
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| 13:00.49 | Ashamed | good morning |
| 13:06.00 | Nash|327 | no |
| 13:06.04 | Ashamed | yes |
| 13:06.11 | Ashamed | nash when you uploading tyo na/ |
| 13:06.50 | Nash|327 | Jade already did |
| 13:07.02 | Nash|327 | unless you mean latest version |
| 13:07.03 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 13:07.29 | Ashamed | oh |
| 13:07.36 | Ashamed | nice i didnt know >< |
| 13:07.40 | Ashamed | i have been moving all week |
| 13:09.06 | merlinludwig | Morning folks |
| 13:10.21 | Ashamed | good morning |
| 13:11.09 | merlinludwig | I wanna play azk's map lol |
| 13:11.44 | merlinludwig | I think he might've found a nitch |
| 13:11.52 | Ashamed | NITCH |
| 13:12.30 | Nash|327 | niche |
| 13:12.53 | Nash|327 | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/niche |
| 13:13.04 | merlinludwig | U n ur propper spellin |
| 13:13.53 | Nash|327 | I'll kill you D:! |
| 13:13.57 | merlinludwig | So i noticed the other day that i had an update(aint been on sc2 in like forever) |
| 13:14.23 | merlinludwig | Anything significant changes to the editor? |
| 13:14.55 | Nash|327 | updated are most just there to break your map |
| 13:15.10 | Nash|327 | basically |
| 13:15.18 | Nash|327 | new patch |
| 13:15.20 | merlinludwig | Good thing i never completed it then |
| 13:15.27 | Nash|327 | "What did it break this time!?" |
| 13:15.32 | Nash|327 | The excitement! |
| 13:15.44 | merlinludwig | So...what did it break? |
| 13:16.23 | merlinludwig | They do somethin stupid again? Perhaps get rid of for loops? |
| 13:16.45 | RndmObjcts | is there a way to make a unit owned by neutral treat players on a specific team as an enemy/ally? |
| 13:19.05 | merlinludwig | R u using all player slots? If not u could transfer ownership to another ai that is allied/enemied |
| 13:19.47 | merlinludwig | Otherwise im @ a loss on single unit alliance change |
| 13:20.15 | RndmObjcts | yea every player slot is used, except 0 and 15. |
| 13:20.32 | RndmObjcts | which are neutral and hostile |
| 13:20.36 | merlinludwig | Hmm...lemme hop on interwebs |
| 13:23.51 | merlinludwig | Yeah...i got nuthin...now im gonna hafta engage brain |
| 13:24.24 | merlinludwig | Workaround... |
| 13:25.10 | merlinludwig | Perhaps create "virtual" player?...still thinking... |
| 13:26.44 | merlinludwig | Ok...i think my brain is onto something...r u trying to make it assist? |
| 13:27.02 | merlinludwig | Or u just wanna set it to enemy? |
| 13:27.53 | RndmObjcts | im trying to make an anti base camper unit for each team |
| 13:29.08 | RndmObjcts | and i if i set it to a player then say in the lobby player one moves to team 2 than it will make a antibase camping unit at the other teams base and vice versa if anyone in the lobby switches teams and is the player number the unit is being created for |
| 13:29.18 | merlinludwig | Perhaps using a trigger to control the unit...have the trigger tell the unit to (if not attacking) attack any unit in baseregion owned by playerthatdontbelong |
| 13:29.56 | merlinludwig | Would that perhaps work as a workaround? |
| 13:30.32 | merlinludwig | U would then just have the trigger be called when playerthatdontbelong switches teams |
| 13:31.10 | azk | Geriatric MOBA, I can see the $$ now |
| 13:31.11 | merlinludwig | Not sure if all that actually works...ud just have to test it |
| 13:31.38 | RndmObjcts | well they cant switch teams once the game begins i just dont want to place a turret for player 1 at team 1's base then have someone in a lobby switch teams as player one, but i want people to be able to have their friends on their team from the lobby |
| 13:31.53 | merlinludwig | Let me know if it doesnt work. Then ill just find another workaround |
| 13:33.21 | merlinludwig | Well...then place a turret for player0 and transfer ownership to a random player of team1 |
| 13:33.39 | merlinludwig | That oughta work just fine |
| 13:34.10 | merlinludwig | U could do the ownership transfer right in mapinit |
| 13:35.58 | merlinludwig | Or if u want hardcore anitgriefing, set the life regen rate of any team 2 unit that enters team1 base to a negative number :P |
| 13:36.25 | merlinludwig | They gonna have to hit hard if they wanna kill team1 MUAHAHA |
| 13:37.19 | merlinludwig | Sorry...got carried away there...yeah just transfer ownership to a random player of team1 on map init |
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| 13:41.31 | merlinludwig | Oh...and its its supposed to be an antigriefing unit make sure its invincible |
| 13:42.17 | RndmObjcts | yea its uncommandable un targetable selectable and invulnerable |
| 13:42.20 | merlinludwig | Or oneshot kills |
| 13:43.06 | RndmObjcts | and changing its ownership still leaves the problem of... what if the player i pick.. for instance player 1 from team1 isnt a player on team1.. meaning player 1 switched to team 2 in the lobby |
| 13:43.07 | merlinludwig | good |
| 13:43.37 | merlinludwig | Once game starts the teams r set right? |
| 13:44.21 | RndmObjcts | yea |
| 13:44.39 | RndmObjcts | it picks all players from team 1 and adds them to my custom team and the same with team 2 |
| 13:44.41 | merlinludwig | So dont set it to player1, set it to "random player in playergroup team1" or something like that |
| 13:45.51 | merlinludwig | So that should work right? |
| 13:46.43 | RndmObjcts | if random player in playergroup was an option >.> |
| 13:46.43 | merlinludwig | "Random player in playergroup customteam1" |
| 13:46.58 | merlinludwig | It is...1 sec |
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| 13:48.13 | merlinludwig | Player From Player Group |
| 13:49.14 | RndmObjcts | yea but how do i make it random? lol |
| 13:49.29 | merlinludwig | So "1 (randomplayer) from Team1 (Player Group) |
| 13:50.23 | merlinludwig | It would be whatever player happens to be indexed at location 1 in playergroup Team1 |
| 13:50.59 | merlinludwig | Course it might be 0 index if so set to "0 from Team1" |
| 13:51.26 | merlinludwig | Done..test it out...it should work for u |
| 13:51.57 | RndmObjcts | doesnt let me put 0, i'll check it out but i cant really test it until i cant get someone to come online with me lol |
| 13:53.04 | merlinludwig | Nonsense...put in an ai for team2 and see it their antigriefing tower attacks u :P |
| 13:54.59 | merlinludwig | tell ur teaming script to add any computer ai to team2 (for testing, remember to remove it afterwards) |
| 13:55.24 | merlinludwig | AIs make good test dummies |
| 13:57.16 | merlinludwig | Remember, where theres a will theres a workaround |
| 13:57.18 | RndmObjcts | yea but ai's bug the map a bit lol.. with a single AI in the game it spawns all 7 units for the team its on, for what reason... idk xD lol |
| 13:57.36 | RndmObjcts | but i'll give it a try |
| 13:58.16 | merlinludwig | Did u remember to remove the "set default units" in ur map init? |
| 13:59.13 | merlinludwig | First thing i do when i make a map = empty map init trigger (fill as needed) |
| 13:59.32 | RndmObjcts | idk what that is, but i removed everything from the init |
| 14:00.10 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 14:01.37 | merlinludwig | Uh oh, i gotta get back to work |
| 14:03.15 | RndmObjcts | well either way it seems to be working :D thanks |
| 14:04.01 | merlinludwig | Np, any time |
| 14:09.46 | JademusSreg | http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/08/22/blizzard-dota-flattened-rebuilt-to-be-more-user-friendly/ |
| 14:10.42 | RndmObjcts | lol |
| 14:10.55 | RndmObjcts | blizz made a dota haha. thats funny on its own. |
| 14:12.32 | JademusSreg | I loved the art direction for the map in their reveal a while ago. |
| 14:14.02 | RndmObjcts | wasnt DoTA originally made by a user on a creator or something? |
| 14:14.28 | JademusSreg | Sentence cannot be parsed. |
| 14:16.04 | JademusSreg | DotA, Defense of the Ancients, was created way back in the day in warcraft 3 by Eul, before The Frozen Throne was released. |
| 14:16.17 | RndmObjcts | on an editor i mean... wasnt it made by a user in a game editro |
| 14:16.26 | RndmObjcts | editor* |
| 14:16.38 | JademusSreg | Editor, yes. =D |
| 14:17.01 | JademusSreg | But this was before the editor supported custom abilities. |
| 14:17.03 | RndmObjcts | is he rich yet? lol.. cause everyone stole his idea QQ |
| 14:17.14 | RndmObjcts | everyone wants to be Eul |
| 14:17.16 | RndmObjcts | QQ |
| 14:17.19 | JademusSreg | So the hero abilities were done via manual slk editing. |
| 14:18.25 | JademusSreg | Eul is virtually unknown. It is Icefrog how later took over development, and still later developed for Dota 2. |
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| 14:19.10 | Keyeszx | morning all |
| 14:19.19 | RndmObjcts | well is icefrog rich yet? lol.. i know there's an actual game you have to buy to play |
| 14:19.33 | JademusSreg | Good morning Key. |
| 14:20.46 | JademusSreg | IceFrog is the lead dev on Dota 2, apparently, so he's making money. I wouldn't use the word "rich" though. |
| 14:21.29 | RndmObjcts | well he should be rich... everyone copied them lol... even blizz :P |
| 14:21.46 | RndmObjcts | and i say them because you said eul made it.. but ice took it over |
| 14:22.28 | JademusSreg | That's odd reasoning. Edison copied Tesla, guess which one died in poverty. =D |
| 14:23.22 | RndmObjcts | yea yea... but we all know who the real inventor was >.> even if he was deemed crazy QQ |
| 14:23.39 | RndmObjcts | or deamed idk.. im not a grammar major >.> |
| 14:25.18 | JademusSreg | CryEngine 3 SDK has been released. Nice. |
| 14:25.30 | RndmObjcts | either way... i just think its funny so many people copied dota and are still copying it... all of the tug of wars on the front page are just lazy versions with no hero's |
| 14:27.02 | RndmObjcts | hell an entire gaming company was made specifically to copy the idea... aka riot games xD |
| 14:35.27 | JademusSreg | Haha |
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| 14:53.30 | Ashamed | busy monday >< |
| 14:58.56 | Nash|327 | MONDAY D: |
| 15:01.06 | Dustin | UH OH, someones got a case of the mondays! |
| 15:01.15 | JademusSreg | Haha ew. |
| 15:01.42 | JademusSreg | Garfield is so not funny that the reference is funny. |
| 15:18.43 | Ashamed | AHHHh |
| 15:27.28 | Ashamed | W0rK W0rK |
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| 15:29.20 | JademusSreg | zug zug |
| 15:37.17 | Dustin | UUUUGH STOP POKING ME |
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| 15:55.41 | Zanryu | does anybody where the tutorial was about spinning actors over the third axis`? |
| 15:56.33 | Dustin | Rocker Actors |
| 15:56.44 | Dustin | Search the forums for it, I think theres some tuts |
| 15:56.59 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 15:57.17 | Zanryu | k thx |
| 16:03.16 | Petoj | how do i modify the help dialog? |
| 16:07.15 | Ashamed | POKE DUSTIN |
| 16:07.24 | Dustin | :D |
| 16:09.09 | Petoj | Pokes dustin! |
| 16:09.40 | Dustin | :O! |
| 16:10.08 | Petoj | :P i was told to poke you i had no other option then to do it! |
| 16:10.56 | Petoj | but seriously i cant find any way am i missing some thing? |
| 16:14.43 | Dustin | Waht part of the help are you trying to modify |
| 16:14.50 | Dustin | You can add tutorials that get added to it |
| 16:14.59 | Dustin | The Tech tree stuff is controlled via the units data |
| 16:16.01 | Petoj | ok so its a tutorial i need to create, thanks.. |
| 16:17.50 | Petoj | one more question that might be a bit tricky, is there any way to give all possible upgrades to a player? i haven't found any way to get a list(array) of all uppgrades |
| 16:23.15 | Petoj | must i have a movie for a freaking tutorial? |
| 16:25.55 | JademusSreg | There is one way, but it is incredibly inefficient relative to simpler methods. |
| 16:27.02 | Petoj | what do you mean??? |
| 16:27.31 | JademusSreg | The simplest approach is to just use literal expressions for all upgrades; you'll end up with a long set of trigger actions / functions, but then allocating them all to an array doesn't save any time or ops, and it accomplishes the same thing. |
| 16:28.08 | Zanryu | hm... i've changed some thing in the tutorial 'bout the rocker actor to actorcreation.weapon (this should only affect to the weapon and not to the actor that wields the weapon, but it won't work :( |
| 16:28.38 | JademusSreg | The more complex and inefficient approach that doesn't require explicitly listing each individual upgrade is to increment a string for use as the upgrade id. |
| 16:29.39 | Petoj | i just need to complete them, i don't care how :P |
| 16:30.52 | JademusSreg | If we assume, say, 16 char strings for upgrade ids, you're doing 36 increments per char place. |
| 16:31.38 | JademusSreg | Actually, caps, so 62. |
| 16:32.18 | JademusSreg | Anyway, the number of ops wasted searching all possible values in a 16 char string is ridiculous. |
| 16:32.49 | JademusSreg | You're just better off giving the player each individual upgrade. |
| 16:33.36 | Petoj | the problem is that i want every player to get every upgrade :P |
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| 16:35.01 | JademusSreg | 1) That makes upgrades completely pointless. 2) There is no more efficient way than simply doing it for each individual upgrade. |
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| 16:36.49 | Petoj | ok then i guess ill have to go and remove all requirements from all upgrades the manual way :P seems like a lot of work tho :P |
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| 16:39.54 | Dustin | Lot of work? Welcome to SC2 editing :P |
| 16:43.13 | Dustin | So im working on a turn based game |
| 16:43.16 | Zanryu | why won't my actor rolling? <.< |
| 17:08.20 | Ashamed | lunch time = nap time! |
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| 17:47.39 | Mexa_ | ohnoes, there's a huge crowds of freshmen outside ;O |
| 17:47.48 | Mexa_ | *-s |
| 17:48.05 | Mexa_ | Them freshers |
| 17:48.23 | JademusSreg | Any attractive ones? |
| 17:50.10 | Mexa_ | Unfortunantly, there's pretty much only guys, judging my peekhole through the curtains. |
| 17:50.36 | Mexa_ | I see a couple of females... about 10 of 100 in total or something ;O |
| 17:53.27 | Shadow_Killer | Kidnap them. |
| 17:53.28 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 17:54.51 | JademusSreg | Low number of females in a large group of males; they're either defensive or attached. There is no point in pursuit. |
| 17:55.27 | Shadow_Killer | That's why I said kidnap. |
| 17:56.16 | Mexa_ | Pewpew for me, as this is being a technical institute, I don't see alot of females :| |
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| 18:01.34 | DarlD | Hey guys. I'm trying to create an ability to remove 1 negative buff off the casting unit. In the Remove Behavior Effect which validator do I use to make sure the behavior is negative? |
| 18:02.13 | JademusSreg | I'm not sure if validators can check for behavior alignment. |
| 18:02.29 | DarlD | What could? |
| 18:03.01 | JademusSreg | A validator could just check the id of the behavior, compare it to all the negative buffs in your map. |
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| 18:03.55 | DarlD | I see |
| 18:04.20 | JademusSreg | It's not elegant, but I see not much in the way of alternatives. |
| 18:04.37 | DarlD | Alright. I'll try to figure out how that would work then. Thanks jade. |
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| 18:04.54 | Dynast | ~seen Motive |
| 18:05.08 | purl | motive <~Motive@c-68-36-169-50.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 13d 2h 56m 51s ago, saying: 'Lolol'. |
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| 19:12.51 | Ousnius | hi |
| 19:12.55 | Ousnius | I was bored and this is the result |
| 19:12.56 | Ousnius | http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9OW1OQIS |
| 19:12.57 | Ousnius | XD |
| 19:13.06 | Ousnius | just drag n drop it onto your sc2 |
| 19:13.35 | JademusSreg | Megaupload is the devil. |
| 19:14.21 | Ashamed | THE DEVIL! |
| 19:15.59 | Zanryu | do i see it right that turrets and the rocket actor are quite the same? both don't work <.< |
| 19:16.44 | Ousnius | maybe |
| 19:16.48 | Ousnius | I dont give a shit though XD |
| 19:16.55 | Ousnius | @ jade |
| 19:17.24 | JademusSreg | Megaupload and its kin can fuck off with their advertisements, pop-ups, and goddamn crimes against tasteful design. |
| 19:17.37 | Ousnius | oh pop ups? |
| 19:17.41 | Ousnius | fire fox + adblock XD |
| 19:17.47 | JademusSreg | Use a dropbox or ftp or pastebin file attachment. |
| 19:18.03 | JademusSreg | Chrome catches that shit too, but it's besides the point. |
| 19:18.31 | Ashamed | yeah do it the nerd way |
| 19:18.41 | Ousnius | :D |
| 19:18.43 | Ashamed | DONT PAY FOR IT OUSNIUS |
| 19:19.31 | Mexa | Says the file is temporarily unavailable anyways... |
| 19:19.41 | Ashamed | fucking people |
| 19:19.45 | Ousnius | I dont like dropbox, I dont know how to use an ftp and since when are we able to upload files to pastebin? o.o |
| 19:19.49 | Ashamed | dont know hwo to close there apps after updating |
| 19:20.00 | Ashamed | i just got a call this guy was like i can't open this 2007 doc in my word 2003 |
| 19:20.06 | Ousnius | it isnt unavailable :P reload |
| 19:20.13 | Ashamed | and i go and he dled the file like 10 times |
| 19:20.13 | JademusSreg | Not the pastebin site; many forums offer pastebins that include file attachment functionality. |
| 19:20.14 | Ashamed | i closed word reopened it |
| 19:20.15 | Ashamed | >< |
| 19:20.20 | Ousnius | XDD |
| 19:20.53 | JademusSreg | You don't like dropbox but you like megaupload? Sitesl ike that are the diseased prostitutes of the internet. You like diseased prostitutes? |
| 19:21.09 | Ousnius | yep |
| 19:21.13 | Ousnius | eeh I mean |
| 19:21.18 | JademusSreg | Alright. Glad we made that clear. |
| 19:21.33 | Ousnius | well actually I'm too lazy to use/DL dropbox XD |
| 19:21.46 | Mexa | lol¨ |
| 19:21.55 | JademusSreg | Using dropbox is literally as easy as putting files into a folder. |
| 19:22.10 | Ousnius | use/DL |
| 19:22.11 | Ousnius | ^^ |
| 19:22.13 | Mexa | "Hi, I don't like dropbox, but gheesh, I never tried it either" |
| 19:22.15 | Mexa | ._. |
| 19:22.29 | Ousnius | I always hate stuff I never tried before |
| 19:22.29 | Ousnius | :3 |
| 19:22.52 | Mexa | Prejudging, huh |
| 19:22.59 | Ousnius | nope |
| 19:23.00 | JademusSreg | That is the motto of eternal virginity. |
| 19:23.03 | Ousnius | but I'm a strage person xD |
| 19:23.12 | Ousnius | strange |
| 19:23.38 | Zanryu | what do you meaning jade? |
| 19:23.53 | JademusSreg | <Ousnius> I always hate stuff I never tried before |
| 19:23.57 | Ousnius | xD |
| 19:24.02 | Ousnius | u mad? XD |
| 19:24.11 | Zanryu | i'd read that |
| 19:24.13 | JademusSreg | What an odd thing to say. |
| 19:24.17 | Zanryu | but i mean your sentence |
| 19:24.48 | Mexa | i don't actually think that is the motto of a virgin, Jade.. |
| 19:24.57 | Mexa | I got your point tho. |
| 19:25.12 | Zanryu | yeah |
| 19:25.35 | JademusSreg | It's that such a way of thinking deprives oneself of a great deal of meaningful life experiences. |
| 19:26.17 | JademusSreg | Sexuality in this case being a convient mole to whack. |
| 19:26.20 | Zanryu | do you really think that the first time is such a bug deal? |
| 19:26.49 | Mexa | Screwing around with a bunch of people in the early ages isn't sounding too much of a meaningful life experience. |
| 19:26.51 | Ousnius | using my motto, yep XD |
| 19:27.22 | Ousnius | anyways |
| 19:27.27 | Ousnius | did anyone actually DL the map? |
| 19:27.48 | JademusSreg | Hell no. I'm not gonna play a map from a diseased prostitute. |
| 19:27.52 | Ousnius | XD |
| 19:28.08 | Mexa | I did, tho, what does it contain? |
| 19:28.09 | Ousnius | it doesn't even have gameplay :P |
| 19:28.18 | Zanryu | so why should i dl it? |
| 19:28.33 | Ousnius | well I was bored, imported a few music sounds |
| 19:28.33 | JademusSreg | *convenient |
| 19:28.35 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 19:28.51 | Ousnius | and you can use your keyboard as a....keyboard o.O |
| 19:29.12 | Zanryu | how awesome... |
| 19:29.23 | Ousnius | I know I know thanks |
| 19:29.27 | Zanryu | i hate it that you can't hear sarkasm through the internet |
| 19:29.33 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 19:30.11 | JademusSreg | If only text formatting provided more dimension in the way of expressing tone. |
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| 19:31.43 | Ousnius | it would actually be funny to use a sc2 map as a pattern based sequencer XD |
| 19:31.48 | Zanryu | I'm getting desperate more and more due the fact that my turrent won't spin while targeting <.< |
| 19:35.26 | Ousnius | LOL |
| 19:35.29 | Mexa | jumps on the train to Maniaplanet. |
| 19:35.31 | Mexa | Afk |
| 19:35.35 | Ousnius | the guys that hacked the EVE onlien servers |
| 19:35.43 | Ousnius | tried to hack the WoW servers too |
| 19:35.43 | Ousnius | but failed XD |
| 19:36.04 | Mexa | Source? |
| 19:36.13 | Ousnius | Tom Chilton |
| 19:36.16 | Ousnius | gamescom interview |
| 19:36.37 | Mexa | source? |
| 19:36.52 | Ousnius | wait |
| 19:36.55 | Mexa | I want to read it |
| 19:36.59 | Ousnius | w8 a sec |
| 19:37.00 | Ousnius | only have german source |
| 19:37.22 | Mexa | give anyway |
| 19:37.42 | Ousnius | http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/interviews/a336307/world-of-warcraft-interview-blizzard-on-post-cataclysm-patch-43-and-more.html |
| 19:37.53 | Ousnius | it was LulzSec |
| 19:37.54 | Ousnius | ^^ |
| 19:38.29 | Mexa | found it myself |
| 19:38.32 | Mexa | No thought |
| 19:38.35 | Mexa | *though |
| 19:38.46 | Mexa | They don't say it was lulzsec |
| 19:38.56 | Mexa | That picture is just appropriate for the time being. |
| 19:39.06 | Ousnius | y |
| 19:39.29 | Ousnius | I think it was LulzSec* :P |
| 19:40.30 | Mexa | Could have been, but they are history now. |
| 19:41.08 | Mexa | Or at least what it looks of it, but they're probably lurking around, a few of those who are left |
| 19:41.18 | Ousnius | ^^ |
| 19:43.12 | Ousnius | http://twitter.com/#!/LulzSec/status/96159531557588993 |
| 19:43.18 | Ousnius | XD omg |
| 19:44.16 | Zanryu | never hearing such crap... |
| 19:46.03 | Mexa | huh |
| 19:47.19 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 19:47.27 | JademusSreg | is having an idea. |
| 19:47.40 | Zanryu | i hope it's something with cake |
| 19:47.48 | Mexa | Elaborate, before I go back to maniaplanet. |
| 19:47.51 | JademusSreg | casts PK CAKE. |
| 19:48.14 | Mexa | Speaking of which, anyone else have the trackmania 2 beta? |
| 19:48.24 | Ousnius | <- |
| 19:48.26 | Ousnius | also got first on a track @gamescom |
| 19:48.26 | Ousnius | XD |
| 19:48.33 | Mexa | ^^ |
| 19:48.49 | Mexa | gratz, I guess:P |
| 19:49.06 | Ousnius | well they were all noobs -.- |
| 19:49.08 | Ousnius | but thanks |
| 19:49.14 | Mexa | heh |
| 19:49.15 | JademusSreg | has a mushroom growing on his head. |
| 19:49.24 | Ousnius | wants to eat it |
| 19:49.25 | Mexa | Is it blue? |
| 19:49.36 | Zanryu | i wanted to ask the same <.< |
| 19:49.49 | Ousnius | is it green? I need 1up |
| 19:51.02 | JademusSreg | It is red with white spots. |
| 19:51.13 | Zanryu | nothing to fear |
| 19:51.18 | JademusSreg | It makes me go in the wrong direction. |
| 19:51.41 | JademusSreg | It looks kind of like this: http://media.strategywiki.org/images/a/a3/EB_Ramblin'_Evil_Mushroom.gif |
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| 20:36.01 | Otixa | Whoomp whoomp ¬¬ |
| 20:37.11 | JademusSreg | Hi Otixa. |
| 20:41.06 | Otixa | Heya |
| 20:55.03 | JademusSreg | Wachoobeendoin? |
| 20:58.09 | timecat | dae here actually play on the ladder? |
| 21:01.04 | Ashamed | good night guys |
| 21:07.03 | Zanryu | yeah nite |
| 21:09.43 | Mexa_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Moldy_Strawberries.jpg yum |
| 21:09.47 | Mexa_ | ._. |
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| 21:14.33 | Ousnius | I always eat them |
| 21:14.37 | Ousnius | delicious :3 |
| 21:14.58 | Ousnius | tastes like cat fur |
| 21:15.12 | Mexa_ | lol |
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| 21:43.44 | Nash|327 | D_D |
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| 21:43.52 | tordy | waddup dudes duddetes |
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| 21:44.38 | JademusSreg | Goofing off. |
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| 21:53.10 | Apple_of | ITS A HEART |
| 21:53.11 | Apple_of | http://i.imgur.com/wINAM.jpg |
| 21:53.12 | Apple_of | AWW |
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| 21:54.03 | JademusSreg | Pretty nice. |
| 21:55.44 | JademusSreg | Those buttons along the bottom though are bugging me, Fruit Storm. |
| 21:55.59 | Apple_of_Tempest | how so |
| 21:56.14 | JademusSreg | They are tacky defaults, and I know you can do better. =D |
| 21:56.15 | Apple_of_Tempest | i made them last, most recently, they dont have any modifications at all? |
| 21:57.50 | Apple_of_Tempest | im at a point, where im like fuck it, lets get it playable |
| 21:57.57 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 21:58.04 | Apple_of_Tempest | lol the mode where everything is a placeholder |
| 21:58.04 | JademusSreg | Making custom button textures is easy. |
| 21:58.58 | JademusSreg | But I understand how that is. |
| 21:59.06 | JademusSreg | No worries. |
| 21:59.22 | Apple_of_Tempest | thats why the logo at top is the way it is, i was sitting there about to start it, to make the perfect logo.. then was like, i got shit to do, this is gonna be pink and if anyone asks its a placeholder, but a placeholder that i like |
| 22:05.33 | Otixa | pops out of the shadows |
| 22:05.34 | Otixa | What. |
| 22:05.55 | tordy | hello Otixa ! :) |
| 22:06.00 | Otixa | ¬¬ |
| 22:06.00 | Otixa | hai |
| 22:06.50 | tordy | that's a nice interface Apple_of_Tempest |
| 22:07.19 | tordy | what button image does the screen button use? |
| 22:07.28 | tordy | I think those'll fit well w/ apple's interface |
| 22:07.44 | JademusSreg | The textures are formatted differently. |
| 22:07.54 | Apple_of_Tempest | nah they can be a lot better, they are too transparent |
| 22:08.05 | Apple_of_Tempest | (for one) |
| 22:08.17 | tordy | im desparate for server-side banks |
| 22:08.25 | tordy | ecko cmon man convince blizz to do it for us! |
| 22:08.57 | Apple_of_Tempest | then if 1 million accounts play your map, theres 1 million banks |
| 22:09.15 | JademusSreg | I'm starting to work with banks. Not very well documented. |
| 22:09.49 | Apple_of_Tempest | can people just delete their local banks |
| 22:09.51 | Apple_of_Tempest | easily |
| 22:10.59 | JademusSreg | Sotis has, what, tens of thousands of regular players per region? That being one of the most popular maps, I think "1 million" is a bit of a stretch. |
| 22:11.23 | Apple_of_Tempest | doesnt matter of your a regular player |
| 22:11.28 | Apple_of_Tempest | play once u have a bank |
| 22:12.20 | Apple_of_Tempest | and if the game stays there for years it has a lot of banks, im not saying theres anything wrong with this tho, if somone makes a game that thousands and thousands of people play, i think the space is no problem lol |
| 22:12.36 | Apple_of_Tempest | bah i donno what im talking about |
| 22:12.37 | JademusSreg | Bank sizes are nothing compared to map sizes, and battlenet is drowning in crappy maps. =D |
| 22:12.58 | Apple_of_Tempest | i was actually expecting a lot more from sc2 |
| 22:13.24 | JademusSreg | This is on par with my expectations. |
| 22:13.44 | JademusSreg | More powerful editor, a bazillion arbitrary limits. |
| 22:13.46 | Apple_of_Tempest | crazy stuff like(not exactly like, just metaphorically like), having a system where people can join your game after it has begun |
| 22:13.51 | JademusSreg | Exactly what I expected. =D |
| 22:14.23 | JademusSreg | Mindy managed to do that in wc3. |
| 22:14.36 | JademusSreg | It was a pretty cool little project. |
| 22:15.11 | Apple_of_Tempest | and this kinda stuff wouldnt be default, itd just be abother mapper option to enable, imagine you click on a game and you can see every instance of the game being played by number and players in that number |
| 22:15.16 | Apple_of_Tempest | you can join any one that isnt full |
| 22:15.30 | Apple_of_Tempest | and make new ones |
| 22:16.12 | Apple_of_Tempest | like if there was an rpg map, you could even jump bettween instances, (and it would reload the map) |
| 22:16.42 | JademusSreg | That's doable for maps launched from the editor. |
| 22:17.24 | JademusSreg | Map transitions work, just not on battlenet. =D |
| 22:17.32 | Apple_of_Tempest | bu jade.. |
| 22:17.34 | Apple_of_Tempest | what |
| 22:17.39 | Apple_of_Tempest | i was most DISAPOINTED ABOUT |
| 22:18.26 | Apple_of_Tempest | was, as i said before..... the lack of models in the editor to work with.. i imagined they would throw in a bunch of models not even related to the game |
| 22:18.45 | Apple_of_Tempest | iv said this b4 too.. every new model is like 100 new games |
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| 22:19.24 | JademusSreg | Lack of art assets, limited editor, limited battlenet, yup, these are unfortunate. |
| 22:19.54 | Apple_of_Tempest | if i wanted to make an rpg, I would have to work under the weight of my soul being crushed from my heros being zealots and marines |
| 22:20.06 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 22:20.28 | JademusSreg | Do not make an rpg map without custom models and a modeler on your team. =D |
| 22:23.43 | MindWorX` | Do what? |
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| 22:24.24 | Apple_of_Tempest | I feel for teh guys(as they say) making that starcraft universe map |
| 22:24.24 | MindWorX` | Oh yea, extended multiplayer in wc3 |
| 22:24.25 | JademusSreg | The map / server that could be joined from single player. |
| 22:24.27 | MindWorX` | Funny stuff |
| 22:24.32 | MindWorX` | I found the map btw |
| 22:24.32 | MindWorX` | :P |
| 22:24.41 | JademusSreg | Niiice. |
| 22:24.54 | MindWorX` | If you want to see some basic networking, it's a great place to start |
| 22:25.12 | MindWorX` | I also have the source for the C# server |
| 22:25.16 | JademusSreg | Eventually, when I get around to it. =D |
| 22:25.32 | MindWorX` | Of course <3 |
| 22:33.01 | MindWorX` | This monitor has the weirdest feature |
| 22:33.07 | MindWorX` | You can turn the power led on and off |
| 22:33.16 | MindWorX` | I assume it's for when you want to watch a movie |
| 22:33.38 | Apple_of_Tempest | is it a larger monitor? |
| 22:33.59 | MindWorX` | Not really 30" |
| 22:34.05 | MindWorX` | What is impressive is the resolution |
| 22:34.13 | Apple_of_Tempest | thats pretty large |
| 22:34.33 | MindWorX` | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/992656/terraria.hd.png |
| 22:34.33 | MindWorX` | That's the resolution :P |
| 22:34.33 | MindWorX` | 2560x1600 |
| 22:34.54 | Apple_of_Tempest | lol |
| 22:35.01 | Apple_of_Tempest | I couldnt work with that! |
| 22:35.11 | MindWorX` | Not really useful when gaming I guess, but it's going to be useful when coding and hacking |
| 22:35.20 | MindWorX` | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/992656/HackingTakesSpace.jpg |
| 22:35.29 | MindWorX` | That's my old dual 19" setup |
| 22:35.41 | azk | GUIs take space |
| 22:35.53 | azk | tiling vm's ftw |
| 22:36.57 | Apple_of_Tempest | well i got notepad open and im writing down ideas |
| 22:37.00 | Apple_of_Tempest | thats about it |
| 22:37.07 | MindWorX` | :P |
| 22:37.30 | MindWorX` | As you can see on the screenshot of me hacking, I have two notepads and a notepad++ open :P |
| 22:37.43 | MindWorX` | Along with the tools of the trade |
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| 22:39.19 | JademusSreg | Remember when you changed Flame Strike values, and you thought you might have had spell instanced changes working? |
| 22:39.43 | MindWorX` | It did work actually |
| 22:40.05 | MindWorX` | Not truly instanced, but it would look like it |
| 22:40.12 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 22:40.21 | MindWorX` | It only read the values when you cast the spell, if you changed them after the spell was in effect, it wouldn't change the spell |
| 22:40.35 | MindWorX` | So you could set values on "A unit begins casting" to whatever you want the unit to do |
| 22:40.37 | MindWorX` | And it'd work |
| 22:41.43 | MindWorX` | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/992656/TeaserShot.jpg |
| 22:41.50 | MindWorX` | That's what you're referring to :P |
| 22:41.53 | MindWorX` | Worked perfectly :D |
| 22:41.54 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 22:42.04 | MindWorX` | Twas awesome :P |
| 22:43.39 | MindWorX` | Maybe, when I'm rich and famous, I'll do a proper Wc3 hack again :D |
| 22:43.44 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 22:43.55 | MindWorX` | xD |
| 22:44.02 | MindWorX` | So that's your timeline :P |
| 22:44.05 | MindWorX` | Take it or leave it |
| 22:44.19 | JademusSreg | Naw, I duncare about wc3. |
| 22:44.34 | tordy | snoop doggy dog |
| 22:44.37 | MindWorX` | :P |
| 22:45.28 | tordy | i see cheat engine! |
| 22:45.28 | tordy | what were you doin!? |
| 22:45.39 | MindWorX` | Hacking :P cheat engine is surprisingly useful for that ;) |
| 22:45.51 | MindWorX` | I could modify values of spells at runtime :P |
| 22:45.55 | MindWorX` | In Wc3 that is |
| 22:46.07 | tordy | not online right that dont work |
| 22:46.16 | tordy | or does it |
| 22:46.23 | MindWorX` | Ofcourse not |
| 22:46.26 | MindWorX` | It's a local change :P |
| 22:46.36 | tordy | yea i used it for emulators |
| 22:46.40 | tordy | do some really cool shit |
| 22:46.42 | MindWorX` | However, if implemented in RtC, it'd work |
| 22:46.44 | JademusSreg | But combine that with a server. |
| 22:46.45 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 22:46.54 | MindWorX` | ;) |
| 22:47.30 | MindWorX` | Enough distractions Owen, I need to fix the damn scaling stuff! |
| 22:47.49 | JademusSreg | Gopher it! |
| 22:47.55 | MindWorX` | Gopher it? :P |
| 22:48.28 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 22:48.32 | JademusSreg | Go for / Gopher |
| 22:48.39 | MindWorX` | ... |
| 22:48.45 | MindWorX` | You're one weird kid... |
| 22:49.00 | JademusSreg | Whippersnapper. |
| 22:52.53 | JademusSreg | <Section name="Tracking"> <Key name="Censure"> <Value string=" motherfucker stole mah cupcake"/> </Key> </Section> |
| 22:53.08 | JademusSreg | Test successful. |
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| 23:29.11 | apple4 | ok i have srs question |
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| 23:30.09 | apple4 | "Vote for a Ranked Match" or "Vote for an Rank Match" |
| 23:31.05 | apple4 | nvm fk |
| 23:31.33 | apple4 | I never knew an went before vowels |
| 23:31.58 | apple4 | "Vote for a Ranked Match" and "Vote for an Unranked Match" was fukin with me |
| 23:52.03 | apple4 | *cough* |
| 23:54.31 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
