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| 00:36.19 | ________________ | ~Hi |
| 00:36.19 | purl | hello, ________________ |
| 00:46.12 | ________________ | ~Quit |
| 00:46.12 | purl | No! You quit! |
| 00:46.18 | ________________ | lol |
| 00:46.43 | timecat | ~________________ |
| 00:46.43 | purl | i guess ________________ is made of lines and homosexuals |
| 00:46.49 | timecat | =O |
| 00:47.03 | ________________ | lol *shakes fist* |
| 00:47.10 | ________________ | ~shake fist |
| 00:47.10 | purl | ACTION shakes fist vigoriously and hangs them out to dry |
| 00:47.13 | ________________ | damn |
| 00:47.15 | ________________ | ooo yay |
| 00:47.27 | ________________ | ^_^ |
| 00:47.33 | timecat | lol |
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| 00:54.15 | BADAPPLE | I ahvea Search that works, it has 2 applyed things, one is a modify unit to remove energy(same as emp), and they other is an apply behavior that applys a 5 second negative energy regeneration |
| 00:54.27 | BADAPPLE | i use teh validators n everything, why wont it worrkrkrkrkrk |
| 00:54.28 | BADAPPLE | ahh |
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| 01:00.58 | BADAPPLE | what unit target is the response to a Search? |
| 01:01.01 | BADAPPLE | Search Area |
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| 01:23.48 | BADAPPLE | ?? |
| 01:37.59 | Mexa_ | bye again |
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| 01:41.50 | Apple | HELLO? |
| 01:42.12 | timecat | ?OLLEH |
| 01:43.41 | Apple | Apparently, I have a Search Area Effect, that I want to apply an Apply Behavior and a Mofify Unit Effect with, these effects all work separatly in the search area perfectly, but when they are both in the Search Area, only the Apply behavior works |
| 01:43.51 | timecat | thats nice |
| 01:44.02 | Apple | i cant find the problem |
| 01:44.21 | Apple | iv put them into a set, iv put them at different radiuses |
| 01:44.32 | Apple | no validators are problems, they both work alone |
| 01:45.11 | Apple | and even when i put them into sets, the same thing happens, the Modify Unit has no effect |
| 01:45.19 | timecat | ask owls about it when he comes online |
| 01:45.26 | timecat | he was working with search areas a little while ago |
| 01:45.32 | timecat | and got his to work |
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| 01:49.44 | gfever | join channel strikecraft for first person shooter mod |
| 01:49.51 | gfever | NA server |
| 01:49.53 | gfever | I need testers |
| 01:49.55 | Apple | comming |
| 01:50.18 | Apple | yeah tho whichever one i put on top is the one that effects |
| 01:50.20 | Apple | and thats it |
| 01:50.35 | Apple | its like the first value the unit is eligable for is the only one that it runs |
| 01:50.39 | Apple | even.. if its in a set.. |
| 01:51.11 | timecat | i need testers too |
| 01:51.23 | Apple | imma play his cuz its a first person shooter |
| 01:51.30 | timecat | k |
| 01:51.35 | timecat | you should try mine after you play his |
| 01:51.37 | gfever | come too |
| 01:51.41 | gfever | i need uuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 01:51.42 | timecat | yea i will |
| 01:51.59 | Apple | bebacsue my map is a 3rd person shootr |
| 01:52.29 | Apple | Im in, my name is Tempest.150 |
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| 01:52.40 | timecat | join his cahnnel |
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| 01:56.34 | Apple | RM? |
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| 02:58.50 | pirate | deathnight , you around? |
| 03:02.30 | deathnight114 | now i am lol |
| 03:02.36 | deathnight114 | pirate: |
| 03:05.15 | pirate | yarr |
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| 03:15.40 | Apple | I sure do love it |
| 03:15.47 | Apple | when the previewer crashes the editor |
| 03:22.39 | Apple | im falling in love |
| 03:22.44 | Apple | with the data editor |
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| 03:49.35 | Keyeszx | Anyone know any remedies to the flu? |
| 03:49.46 | timecat | sleep |
| 03:50.01 | Keyeszx | I can't sleep my body is in pain whenever I try |
| 03:50.09 | timecat | IB profun |
| 03:50.12 | timecat | or weed |
| 03:51.05 | Keyeszx | been taking some ibuprofen. I got school monday I need to be good otherwise I might lose the class |
| 03:52.01 | timecat | how much ibprofun |
| 04:00.09 | Keyeszx | one or two every few hours, maybe 5 hours |
| 04:20.09 | Apple | does anyone know a good electricution efffect |
| 04:20.15 | Apple | besides the one that is called that >> |
| 04:22.06 | timecat | psi storm |
| 04:22.59 | Apple | i tryed psi strom impact, its way too chaotic and purple, im trying to make an after effect for EMP to make the unit that was emped have a kind of staticy around them |
| 04:23.22 | Apple | showing that they were hit, and while that effects up, theyre cloak is disabled and blah blah |
| 04:23.55 | timecat | oh uh |
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| 05:03.59 | Vindicator | anyone on know if animations export along with the WoW models? |
| 05:04.29 | ________________ | ~8ball Do animations export with WoW models? |
| 05:04.29 | purl | Yes. |
| 05:04.38 | ________________ | She's a liar... they don't |
| 05:04.53 | timecat | the animations are seperate from the models |
| 05:04.53 | ________________ | exporting a model exports only the model |
| 05:04.57 | ________________ | mhmm |
| 05:05.01 | ________________ | what he said |
| 05:05.15 | Vindicator | know how to import animations? |
| 05:05.17 | ________________ | ~purl is a liar |
| 05:05.22 | ________________ | ~purl |
| 05:05.23 | purl | hmm... purl is a far prettier chatbot than you. |
| 05:05.27 | ________________ | lies! |
| 05:05.56 | ________________ | import animations? |
| 05:06.05 | ________________ | *does research* |
| 05:10.00 | ________________ | yes, you can export animations through 3dsmax |
| 05:10.11 | ________________ | if you can get the model in there, you can pull it out with animations |
| 05:11.53 | Vindicator | i've only used nintoxicated m3 exporter |
| 05:12.00 | Vindicator | *nintoxicated's |
| 05:12.10 | Vindicator | and i can't get animations successfully exported via that |
| 05:12.15 | Vindicator | do u know what i should use? |
| 05:12.29 | Vindicator | doh |
| 05:25.16 | RndmObjcts | anyone know if theres a way to rotate the minimap? |
| 05:25.34 | timecat | did you check the cameras? |
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| 05:27.18 | RndmObjcts | yea >.> i think <.< |
| 05:27.34 | Vindicator | as far as i know the minimap can't be rotated by anything really built into the editor to support that function, but you could make some custom UI with a pic of the minimap that could rotate based on clicking left/right buttons or based on the cameras positioning if you plan on having the camera be able to spin around |
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| 05:31.10 | RndmObjcts | well i dont want it to rotate on movement i just want to flip it for one team, i have two camera's in my map so that both teams have the same view, for the second team the minimap is abit annoying because when your running up the map your running down the minimap |
| 05:34.51 | Vindicator | hmm.. well getting the dots to show up correctly would be hard |
| 05:35.21 | Vindicator | i know how you could get the map flipped around with custom UI but i don't know how to position it behind the minimap dots but above the original minimap image =/ |
| 05:36.54 | Vindicator | i have no clue if this would work - but it's the only thing i can think of to try to accomplish that, and this might be a bit lengthy so bear with me |
| 05:37.51 | RndmObjcts | wouldnt changing it with a ui file change it for both teams? |
| 05:38.13 | Vindicator | you could try creating a dialog, hiding the dialog background image, creating a dialog item image for that dialog with the image of the minimap, rotate it 180 degrees. if you don't wanna rotate the image you could export it, flip it around in mspaint, reimport it and just use the image like that - now here's the tricky part that i dunno if it'll work or not |
| 05:38.28 | Vindicator | (you're not changing a ui file, you'd simply have this custom dialog only show for one team) |
| 05:38.41 | Vindicator | there's something called a RTT channel (i think thats the name) |
| 05:39.06 | Vindicator | there's like 255 channels that determine what 'layer' your dialog is shown at |
| 05:39.36 | Vindicator | there's a chance one of them or a few of them could be between the minimap dots and the minimap background, if so - that's how u'd do it |
| 05:39.59 | Vindicator | but ya.. kinda complicated if u aren't familiar with custom dialog stuff |
| 05:40.33 | RndmObjcts | the layers would be the prioritys right? |
| 05:41.10 | RndmObjcts | well priority amount anyway xD |
| 05:41.18 | timecat | whats the smallest fraction of a second sc2 recognizes |
| 05:41.23 | timecat | 1/16 of a second right? |
| 05:41.54 | Vindicator | 0.0625 |
| 05:42.06 | timecat | ^aka 1/16 |
| 05:42.08 | timecat | ok thx |
| 05:42.13 | Vindicator | if u enter anything lower than that it switches it to that without telling u |
| 05:42.20 | JademusSreg | 1/32 |
| 05:42.25 | timecat | wut |
| 05:42.37 | JademusSreg | Though many game objects are updated in 1/16 game second increments. |
| 05:42.42 | timecat | ok |
| 05:42.48 | timecat | i'm working with behavior periods |
| 05:42.54 | timecat | so i guess its 1/16th for those |
| 05:43.02 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 05:43.12 | timecat | ok suddenly this makes much more sense |
| 05:43.38 | Vindicator | @RndmObjcts well the desription for the priority thing is only for the dialog ur working in, not anything outside of it... but hmmm, you might be out of luck then cuz the priority trigger was what i thought the RTT one was =/ |
| 05:44.18 | Apple | im trying to make the electrocution model which has only a birth and a death animation, loop its birth animation instead of a stand animation |
| 05:44.36 | Apple | any help on how to do that in actor events? |
| 05:44.52 | Apple | with BSD stuffs |
| 05:45.09 | Vindicator | is there stuff already in actor events for the electrocution model or is it blank? |
| 05:45.21 | JademusSreg | 1/32 game second is one engine tick, used for updating shit like actors, 1/16 game second is two engine ticks and is used for updating most other shit. So a period of 1/16 game seconds will execute 16 times per game second, and on Faster speed that's 24 times per real second. |
| 05:45.41 | Apple | i made my own, its kinda a copy of fungal groth actor, its just for a behavior that a unit gets when emped |
| 05:46.20 | Apple | there is stuff, basic stuff to create a model with Birth stand and death |
| 05:46.48 | Apple | but i cant turn that into a loop birth animation in the "Content" field |
| 05:47.01 | Vindicator | well i'd recommend just looking at how events are setup in something as simple as possible that has a stand animation and duplicate it's events+ by hand for everything that has to do with it playing it's own stand animation |
| 05:47.18 | Vindicator | ur saying u can't loop birth like stand is looped? |
| 05:47.46 | Apple | no |
| 05:47.59 | Apple | when i put the birth animation in the "content" field |
| 05:48.04 | Apple | it only places once i think |
| 05:48.15 | Vindicator | oh i see |
| 05:48.19 | Apple | then its blank for the entire duration of the behavior |
| 05:48.27 | Apple | untill detah |
| 05:49.11 | Vindicator | hmm, well some animations play every so often, like units looking to the side and such, i dunno if those are alternate stand animations or not, but my guess is there's a couple other events that work together with that one, or that one might not even be necessary |
| 05:50.07 | Vindicator | whats the event for that animation ur trying to have play? |
| 05:50.25 | Apple | the animation plays fine with everything else |
| 05:50.37 | Apple | if i apply a model that has a birth stand and death animation |
| 05:50.54 | Apple | it will play the birht, then loop the stand, and then play the death at the end of my behaviors duration |
| 05:51.56 | Apple | Im using animation bracket start |
| 05:52.50 | Vindicator | i think unit creation needs to be there first somewhere (or unit birth, whatever they call the event for unit creation) |
| 05:53.00 | Vindicator | as an event |
| 05:53.07 | Apple | yeah thats already there |
| 05:53.23 | Vindicator | tied directly to this animation? |
| 05:53.25 | Apple | i just dont think thats related to my issue |
| 05:53.31 | Apple | no |
| 05:53.39 | Apple | this is for a behavor |
| 05:53.55 | Apple | when a unit has this behavior, this actor will apply the model |
| 05:54.52 | Apple | while the behavior is going, it will start with birth animation, go with stand animation, and end with death animation, that is all working and normal, but the new MODEL i want to use only has a birth and a death animation, and i would like it to Loop the Birth animation in place of the Stand animation that is not there |
| 05:55.54 | Apple | iv put the Birth animation in the field(content) that the stand animation goes, and it only plays once tnad never looops for the duration, the closest iv gottan is chaging the animation of Content to Birth(Global Loop), which played the death animation over and over |
| 05:56.07 | Apple | (but i want the birht, not the death).. |
| 05:56.16 | Vindicator | hmm instead of having BSD anywhere in the name of your action i think there's an action that is simply to loop a single animation that you define |
| 05:56.53 | Vindicator | weird |
| 06:01.33 | Apple | i just tryed that |
| 06:01.35 | Apple | and it.. |
| 06:01.42 | Apple | just played the death animation over and over again |
| 06:01.47 | Apple | instead of the birth |
| 06:02.09 | Apple | with Play Animation "asset driven looping" |
| 06:02.14 | Apple | as a flag |
| 06:04.47 | Apple | uh |
| 06:04.55 | Apple | this model is confusing the crap out of me |
| 06:05.02 | Apple | u shuld check out Electrocution |
| 06:05.09 | Vindicator | no clue then... only thing i can come up with is theres another event below it thats overridding it =/ |
| 06:05.10 | Apple | Electrocute |
| 06:05.32 | Apple | I think it is playing the birth animation |
| 06:05.43 | Apple | just its.. not the same as it is in the previewer |
| 06:06.03 | Apple | Previewer shows electric sparks shooting 3 different ways with electricity around that as well |
| 06:06.21 | Apple | and ingame all im getting is 1 spark |
| 06:06.26 | Apple | and thats it |
| 06:06.30 | Apple | doesnt move at all |
| 06:06.38 | Apple | just sits there and flashes |
| 06:08.07 | Vindicator | hmm |
| 06:08.19 | Apple | il keep trying to find a dif model i can use >> |
| 06:09.10 | Vindicator | er |
| 06:09.33 | Vindicator | i dunno i guess the fact that it doesn't have a stand animation is confusing the hell out of it |
| 06:09.52 | Vindicator | and it's resorting to using the death animation since it can't find stand, even if it's not being asked to play stand |
| 06:10.25 | Vindicator | electrical arcs is another electricity model |
| 06:10.31 | Vindicator | and it's got a stand =D |
| 06:12.13 | Apple | what im trying to add is a kind of static effect to units that have a behavior as a result of getting hit by an EMP |
| 06:12.23 | Apple | if ur interested/have any ideas, lemme know |
| 06:13.34 | Vindicator | well i gotta hit the sack here , but electical arcs could do it for ya, you'd just need a few of them and you'd probably need to change the length of the model via the scale of the model in the data editor |
| 06:13.51 | Apple | oh yeah electrical arcs is doing good |
| 06:13.56 | Vindicator | =D |
| 06:15.33 | Apple | very good, thats what im going to use, thanks |
| 06:16.30 | Xapti | Sixen |
| 06:18.32 | Vindicator | np glad i could help some, night |
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| 07:22.52 | RndmObjcts | anyone know if there are any movers pre loaded that go un a lower case n motion, up then down? |
| 07:23.15 | timecat | like half a sine wave? |
| 07:24.58 | Currydevil | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/4855-data-customized-movers-advanced-difficulty/ |
| 07:29.19 | timecat | who wants to help me beta test some more |
| 07:30.27 | Currydevil | would but i'm working on triggers. |
| 07:30.59 | RndmObjcts | like a half circle, sorry i had to go afk a sec there |
| 07:31.28 | timecat | so like sqrt(1-x^2) |
| 07:32.07 | Currydevil | you want it to be an arc? |
| 07:32.14 | Currydevil | like throwing a grenade? |
| 07:32.33 | timecat | if you want an arc, use a sine wave |
| 07:32.39 | timecat | much easier to work with |
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| 08:19.22 | RndmObjcts | anyone know how to add a death effect to a behavior? >.> |
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| 08:51.49 | Currydevil | I have a question about records. I am trying to use an interger var in a condition, but when I try to grab the integer var from the record, it only shows the other boolean var i have in there as well. |
| 08:52.18 | Currydevil | Do I have to use a diff type of condition other than comparison? It's not quite making sense why I shouldn't be able to pick my integer var from the record |
| 08:53.34 | Currydevil | oh nvm. |
| 08:53.59 | Currydevil | <- Noobzilla has risen from the murky depths of the Sea of Fail. |
| 09:00.24 | Currydevil | and now, I can't seem to find another variable I just made. |
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| 09:03.30 | Currydevil | either that or I can't use a variable in an event. |
| 09:06.34 | Currydevil | but looking at this person's trigger leads me to belive you can use a var in an event, he did it. But I cannot =( |
| 09:06.36 | Currydevil | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/23393-very-difficult-control-zones/ |
| 09:06.41 | Currydevil | believe* |
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| 10:13.23 | Mexa_ | mornin' |
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| 10:20.47 | mapsterman | sup ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 10:21.53 | Mexa_ | heyo |
| 10:22.21 | mapsterman | whats up? |
| 10:22.30 | Mexa_ | Breakfast! |
| 10:22.44 | Mexa_ | you? |
| 10:23.14 | mapsterman | trying to figure out how to make 15 player slots ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 10:23.22 | mapsterman | and also breakfast |
| 10:23.24 | mapsterman | :D |
| 10:23.38 | Mexa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:26.55 | mapsterman | think i foudn ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 10:31.04 | mapsterman | you know of a melee map that has 15 players? like bgh style |
| 10:31.21 | Mexa_ | not me |
| 10:31.43 | Mexa_ | standard maps are 8 players max, aren't they? |
| 10:32.00 | Zanryu | for 4vs4 yes |
| 10:32.01 | mapsterman | uhm...what do you mean by standard |
| 10:32.07 | mapsterman | oh yea I mean like custom map |
| 10:32.10 | Mexa_ | official maps |
| 10:32.11 | mapsterman | but melee style |
| 10:32.13 | Mexa_ | melee |
| 10:32.18 | mapsterman | like expantions and stuff |
| 10:32.25 | Zanryu | but you could also make a 7vs7 or 5vs5vs5 map |
| 10:32.33 | mapsterman | yea official maps only have 8 max |
| 10:32.37 | Mexa_ | Not that I know of currently.-. |
| 10:32.45 | mapsterman | yea im trying to do a 5v5v5 |
| 10:34.13 | Currydevil | to use an action definition, do i just use a custom script action and type in the action name?> |
| 10:35.02 | mapsterman | no |
| 10:35.14 | mapsterman | just create a new action and select it in the list |
| 10:35.19 | mapsterman | whatever name you named it ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 10:35.37 | Currydevil | Oh ok |
| 10:35.40 | Currydevil | I see it now, thanks. |
| 10:35.44 | Currydevil | I was unsure how to call it. |
| 10:36.12 | mapsterman | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
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| 13:25.00 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
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| 13:50.58 | Mexa_ | You awaken! |
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| 14:10.02 | Mexa_ | Neato, seems I can get some extra cash to apply for housing benefits :d |
| 14:21.52 | Owls | anyone know how to let a player see enemy chat? |
| 14:55.53 | Mexa_ | oooh, shit... From Dust is not supported to work in laptops. |
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| 15:12.09 | Mexa_ | Yay... great party those people had last night. It's 5PM, no sign of anyone coming back cleaning up the yard, and it all looks like shit. |
| 15:12.16 | Mexa_ | What a great view |
| 15:12.40 | Zanryu | don't look outside^^ |
| 15:13.22 | Mexa_ | Depressing to pull down the curtains with a such blue sky outside :| |
| 15:15.49 | Mexa_ | And they all don't even live here -.- |
| 15:15.59 | Mexa_ | Them crashers... |
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| 15:53.18 | Mexa_ | I guess it was somewhat good one didn't go to gamescom this year |
| 15:53.19 | Mexa_ | http://kotaku.com/5832846/worlds-biggest-video-game-show-locked-down-over-crushing-crowds |
| 15:53.25 | Mexa_ | That crowd :O |
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| 15:54.38 | Xaragoth | And that is why being in the Dev circle helps |
| 15:54.45 | Xaragoth | Didn't go this year though |
| 15:55.12 | Zanryu | i weren't in cologne before but i know that even leipzig was fairly small 4 years ago |
| 15:55.24 | Xaragoth | cologne has a pretty big floor area |
| 15:56.00 | Xaragoth | but without GDC & Gamescom Combo Pass, going there is kinda stupid |
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| 15:56.14 | Xaragoth | Because the pass allows you access on press day |
| 15:56.21 | Zanryu | totally agree |
| 15:56.23 | Xaragoth | lots of playing without anyone annoying you with a timer :P |
| 15:56.32 | Xaragoth | was great fun last year |
| 15:57.35 | Zanryu | if they won't do in vacations and for a longer time then it wouldn't be such a big deal |
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| 15:59.23 | Mexa_ | going off, studying :| |
| 15:59.24 | Mexa_ | bbl |
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| 16:53.13 | Fenix | Hey Jade =D |
| 16:53.17 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 16:53.22 | JademusSreg | What's up? |
| 16:53.41 | Fenix | have you got my feedback about your map? |
| 16:53.58 | JademusSreg | The private chat? |
| 16:54.02 | Fenix | ya |
| 16:54.19 | JademusSreg | I read some of it. I prefer feedback on the forums, though. |
| 16:54.47 | Fenix | kk where i can give fb, cause i dont really know.. xD |
| 16:55.00 | JademusSreg | What is fb? |
| 16:55.21 | Zanryu | feedback |
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| 16:56.25 | JademusSreg | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/20788-photon-cycles-a-luminous-lightbikes-map/ |
| 16:56.33 | JademusSreg | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=215392 |
| 16:57.05 | Fenix | im not on teamliquid though |
| 16:57.23 | JademusSreg | That's fine. I've got topics on several forums. |
| 16:57.30 | Nash|327 | making a smart click blink with shock nova :G |
| 16:57.43 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 16:57.53 | Nash|327 | Mystic "epic" ability |
| 16:58.06 | Nash|327 | a mode where instead of moving you blink and shock nova |
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| 17:40.04 | JademusSreg | Today I shall include some map adverts along with my update. |
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| 18:23.01 | Owls | is there a way to make a behavior that gives vision to enemy units? |
| 18:23.23 | Zanryu | interact effekt i think |
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| 18:25.18 | Owls | ok, so a periodic effect on the behavior that calls an interact ability? |
| 18:26.06 | Zanryu | dunno exactly^^ i know that the xelnaga tower uses a interact effect for sharing visibilty so you have to try a bit^^ |
| 18:26.40 | Owls | ok, cool |
| 18:26.41 | Owls | thanks |
| 18:26.46 | Zanryu | np^^ |
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| 19:00.40 | AppleTempest | Hi, I can't figure out how to disable the showing of a players name when the mouse is hovered over a unit |
| 19:00.56 | AppleTempest | so im here at Editors Anonymous |
| 19:01.01 | JademusSreg | That's done on the unit flags. |
| 19:01.04 | Zanryu | unit flags was it i guess |
| 19:01.14 | JademusSreg | No Hover or highlight or somesuch. |
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| 19:02.42 | AppleTempest | undetectable? |
| 19:03.00 | Zanryu | nope |
| 19:03.10 | AppleTempest | cannot be highlighted and cannot be clicked are already flagged |
| 19:03.23 | AppleTempest | players name still shows up when you mouse over the unit |
| 19:03.48 | JademusSreg | I don't have the editor open atm, so I can only guess. |
| 19:03.59 | JademusSreg | I'd just refer you to another unit with said property. |
| 19:04.02 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:04.26 | AppleTempest | what kinda unit would that be |
| 19:04.28 | AppleTempest | >> |
| 19:04.35 | JademusSreg | Such as the traffic gate. |
| 19:04.47 | JademusSreg | Checkpoint gate, whatever it's called. |
| 19:06.50 | AppleTempest | "No Portrait Talk / Destructible / Use Line of Sight.. |
| 19:07.08 | AppleTempest | I gess maybe if i set my unit to destructible or somthing |
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| 19:07.39 | unfueled | Hi |
| 19:07.50 | JademusSreg | Hi |
| 19:08.29 | unfueled | Had a question: would it be useful to create a scripting editor for android phones? |
| 19:09.27 | AppleTempest | im sure one person will find it useful |
| 19:09.40 | AppleTempest | make it lol |
| 19:09.49 | AppleTempest | cuz that 1 person is enough! |
| 19:09.49 | unfueled | Theoretically u can make an sc2 map completelly in scripting editor. So i see no reason not to have it. |
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| 19:10.36 | Nash|327 | ... |
| 19:10.42 | unfueled | i dont know much about programming for android, but it seems to be all java so it shouldnt be that hard |
| 19:11.29 | JademusSreg | Multiplatform is nice. But unless it provides a feature set beyond that of a common text editor, it would serve no purpose. =D |
| 19:12.02 | unfueled | Feature= map editing on android phones. |
| 19:12.34 | unfueled | I would finally have something to do on my lunchbreaks other than sit around bored lol |
| 19:12.43 | JademusSreg | Beier's galaxy++ has a feature set that provided a good incentive for scripting in it. |
| 19:12.49 | timecat | LF people to help me beta test |
| 19:12.52 | JademusSreg | If it were ported to a phone, I could see it being used. |
| 19:13.01 | JademusSreg | timecat, I can assist. |
| 19:13.05 | timecat | ko |
| 19:13.06 | timecat | ok |
| 19:13.10 | timecat | meet me in channel power towers |
| 19:13.51 | JademusSreg | I counter propose meeting me in sc2mapster channel. |
| 19:15.19 | unfueled | Lol |
| 19:15.32 | unfueled | Another person doing power towers? |
| 19:15.38 | unfueled | Thank god |
| 19:16.04 | unfueled | The only pt maps i found sucked balls |
| 19:16.28 | Zanryu | what should power towers be? |
| 19:16.55 | unfueled | Power towers was my favorite map in WC3 |
| 19:17.26 | Zanryu | yeah that says everything <.< |
| 19:17.55 | unfueled | I broke down the other month and began programming a pt map for sc2 do to a lack of it |
| 19:18.45 | unfueled | Basically u have towers that produce energy, then use connections between towers to transfer it to towers that use it |
| 19:19.11 | AppleTempest | zomg i just found Text tags |
| 19:19.12 | AppleTempest | ty bliz |
| 19:19.51 | unfueled | Took me forever to build the transfer system |
| 19:20.45 | unfueled | Couldnt understand strilancs code so i built a transfer system from scratch using the global data table for variable storage |
| 19:22.44 | unfueled | Timecat: if u need help let me know...like i said, i built a transfer system |
| 19:23.41 | timecat | ooh really? |
| 19:23.48 | timecat | how did you do yours |
| 19:23.48 | unfueled | Yeah |
| 19:24.00 | timecat | i used behaviors and dummy units |
| 19:24.27 | unfueled | Used the global data table to store values such as limits and unit groups |
| 19:24.46 | timecat | limits of what? |
| 19:24.56 | timecat | but yea i saved each tower in to the global data table |
| 19:25.03 | unfueled | transfer limits |
| 19:25.30 | unfueled | I tried to cut lag by reducing overhead as much as possible |
| 19:26.22 | timecat | oh i did all the energy transfer in behaviors |
| 19:26.23 | unfueled | Datatable.sourceunitid.targetunitid = connection amount |
| 19:26.40 | JademusSreg | In that case, make it optional, see which people enjoy more, tiemcat. |
| 19:26.53 | timecat | hmm ok |
| 19:26.58 | timecat | maybe in a later version i'll do that |
| 19:27.11 | unfueled | That was my first approach, but i tried to mimick orginial pt as much as possible |
| 19:27.13 | timecat | unfueled: join channel sc2mapster |
| 19:27.19 | timecat | lol same |
| 19:27.22 | timecat | come see what i did |
| 19:27.27 | timecat | i accomplished it pretty well |
| 19:28.02 | unfueled | Good to know, i started other games so my maps in stasis right now |
| 19:28.16 | timecat | ah |
| 19:28.23 | JademusSreg | It is very easy, would take maybe 5 minutes to implement. =D |
| 19:28.23 | timecat | come check mine out tho |
| 19:28.30 | timecat | jade: yea i know |
| 19:28.40 | timecat | its just not a priority for me atm |
| 19:28.53 | JademusSreg | =\ |
| 19:28.54 | unfueled | Cant, lunchbreaks almost over |
| 19:28.58 | timecat | D: |
| 19:29.02 | JademusSreg | Good design should always be a high priority. =D |
| 19:29.31 | timecat | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/power-towers/ |
| 19:29.33 | timecat | unfueled: is that yours? |
| 19:29.39 | unfueled | My connection ability is still unanimated, i focused on functionality first |
| 19:30.00 | unfueled | No..never got to the point of uploading |
| 19:30.06 | timecat | ah |
| 19:30.19 | timecat | once you get a chance, check mine out and if you like it maybe we could collab on it |
| 19:30.23 | unfueled | My cousin keeps telling me to start it back up though |
| 19:30.42 | JademusSreg | Timecat, why do you create texttags for energy used when towers are firing? I'm curious what the utility in that might be. |
| 19:31.08 | timecat | to show that they're firing and just as eye candy |
| 19:31.22 | JademusSreg | Ah. So the Final Fantasy School of Thought |
| 19:31.24 | JademusSreg | D= |
| 19:31.33 | unfueled | Like i said, my connections values are stored in datatable via unitIDs |
| 19:31.45 | timecat | yea thats how i did it |
| 19:31.54 | timecat | well |
| 19:31.59 | timecat | not the actual amounts |
| 19:32.01 | unfueled | I created my own unit ids and stored them to each unit's custom value 0 |
| 19:32.02 | JademusSreg | That's a pretty good approach, nice approximation of classes. |
| 19:32.05 | timecat | i did those through behaviors to increase performance |
| 19:32.19 | timecat | oh i used a data table to give them unique ids |
| 19:32.20 | JademusSreg | Dynamic memory allocation and all that good shit. |
| 19:32.41 | unfueled | I used dot notation for the data table too...easier for me to understand |
| 19:32.50 | JademusSreg | I do the same. |
| 19:32.51 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 19:33.32 | unfueled | Connect ability ads unit to unitgroup datatable.sourceunit.connectionsout |
| 19:33.32 | timecat | using behaviors for energy transfer, i think there's two ways to give each transfer a unique id |
| 19:33.46 | timecat | using dummy units and indexing which behavior is which tower |
| 19:34.05 | unfueled | And ads source unit to datatable.targetunitid.connectionsin |
| 19:34.22 | timecat | so how do you actually transfer power then? |
| 19:34.41 | unfueled | Modifying energy regen rates :P |
| 19:34.48 | unfueled | I simulate transfer |
| 19:35.29 | unfueled | Unless u know the code, u would think the energy is really being transfered |
| 19:36.14 | unfueled | Sourceunitregen = -transferamount, targetunitregen = +transferamount |
| 19:36.15 | JademusSreg | It's kind of unfrotunate that you two might be competing. |
| 19:36.17 | timecat | oh interesting |
| 19:36.24 | JademusSreg | *unfortunate |
| 19:36.30 | timecat | well his is on hold atm |
| 19:36.40 | timecat | how complete is yours unfueled? |
| 19:37.11 | JademusSreg | I imagine if you both were working together it could make for better, or at least more rapidly produced, map. |
| 19:37.19 | timecat | well thats what i'm suggesting |
| 19:37.34 | unfueled | Functionality 100% units and layout maybe 20% |
| 19:37.38 | timecat | i want him to check out mine and see if he likes it |
| 19:37.47 | timecat | cause mine is very close to a public release |
| 19:37.47 | unfueled | Probably lower though |
| 19:38.22 | unfueled | I just want to see a pt map in sc2, to me there is no competition |
| 19:38.29 | timecat | heh yea |
| 19:39.04 | timecat | well when will you be off work |
| 19:39.59 | unfueled | Got stuff to do after work. But im gonna keep this chatroom in top priority list |
| 19:40.05 | timecat | alright |
| 19:40.28 | timecat | i took a bunch of creative liberties with mine |
| 19:40.48 | timecat | strilanc's pt was kinda bland tbh |
| 19:41.23 | JademusSreg | I haven't heard anyone mention Strilanc in forever. |
| 19:41.32 | timecat | heh |
| 19:43.32 | unfueled | Like i said, i tried to implement his functionality as much as possible |
| 19:44.26 | JademusSreg | Ah, the glory days of wc3c. |
| 19:44.44 | unfueled | I think my transfer system performs good, but i need some people to test it. I would love to see a pt map done and done right. |
| 19:44.47 | timecat | back when customs were actually seen? |
| 19:44.57 | timecat | well check out my transfer system |
| 19:45.27 | unfueled | So if my transfer system can help u in any way, id love to get with u and help u on the map |
| 19:45.36 | timecat | yea i wanna check yours out |
| 19:46.10 | unfueled | I suck at animations and map layout, so if i can help someebody else by making their map better im all for it |
| 19:46.11 | timecat | due to the fact that behavior periods only register down to 1/16th of a second, there's some slight loss in some transfers |
| 19:46.32 | timecat | if a lvl 6 generator transfers to a lvl 1 tower, some energy is lost |
| 19:46.47 | unfueled | oh, i fixed those issues |
| 19:47.07 | JademusSreg | The individual maps per list space is higher in SC2 than in WC3 or SC1. The difference is that most people don't spend much time looking for maps they want to play, since the maps at the top of the popularity list are more convenient, given the higher certainty of finding a game. |
| 19:47.09 | timecat | yea with tower regen i suppose that would circumvent that issue |
| 19:47.16 | unfueled | I modulate transfers by the amount of units that need energy to achieve even transfers |
| 19:47.58 | timecat | across multiple towers? |
| 19:48.04 | timecat | cause thats not a problem for me |
| 19:48.13 | unfueled | And then i modulate further based upon the actual needs, therefore never transfering more than the available storage, which allows me to allocate more to the other units |
| 19:48.31 | timecat | ok |
| 19:48.59 | unfueled | And a benefit of that system is that towers energy never gets wasted |
| 19:49.08 | timecat | my lvl 6 generator transfers 39.375 energy per 1/16th a second |
| 19:49.14 | timecat | so there's not much waste |
| 19:49.15 | timecat | but its there |
| 19:49.42 | JademusSreg | How much is wasted? |
| 19:50.06 | timecat | depends on how much the recieving tower has |
| 19:50.26 | timecat | if it has 40 energy and a max of 50, then 29.375 energy was wasted |
| 19:50.33 | unfueled | I also experimented with life and shield transfer using the same system |
| 19:50.35 | JademusSreg | Ouch. |
| 19:50.42 | timecat | its actually not that bad |
| 19:51.08 | timecat | a lvl 6 gen generates at 315 joules/second and stores 15750 joules |
| 19:51.17 | unfueled | See mine: if it has 40 and max is 50, it only transfer 10 |
| 19:51.24 | timecat | yea that'd be nice to have |
| 19:52.06 | unfueled | Yeah, i need to show u my transfer system. Like i said, i didnt get strilancs code so i built everything fromk scratch |
| 19:52.18 | timecat | his code is open source you know |
| 19:53.48 | unfueled | I didnt understand it...so i started @ 0 |
| 19:53.56 | timecat | o |
| 19:54.10 | timecat | oh the other thing i didn't implement is towers attacking when they have no energy |
| 19:54.26 | timecat | it wouldn't be too hard to do that tho |
| 19:55.50 | unfueled | Oh, and i tried to make my code plug&play |
| 19:55.58 | timecat | ? |
| 19:55.59 | AppleTempest | DONT GIVE UP ON YOUR DREAMS TIMECAT |
| 19:56.04 | timecat | K I WON'T |
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| 19:57.47 | unfueled | In hopes of finding someone else making a pt map i designed my code to be easy, 2 dummy abilities to make and my code takes care of the rest. I tried to make my code a self sufficient transfer engine |
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| 19:58.12 | timecat | ok |
| 19:58.50 | timecat | well msg me when you have time to work on it |
| 19:59.18 | AppleTempest | so |
| 19:59.26 | AppleTempest | this is what happens when you make your map from the inside out |
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| 19:59.47 | AppleTempest | have to revise evrything for everything u add |
| 19:59.49 | AppleTempest | this is scarey |
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| 20:01.50 | unfueled | No.. |
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| 20:22.00 | unfueled | Damn, timecat logged |
| 20:22.42 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 20:22.53 | JademusSreg | He'll be back. |
| 20:23.01 | JademusSreg | He's a regular here. |
| 20:23.27 | unfueled | Well...im gonna be now too lol |
| 20:24.09 | unfueled | Sadly i cant use ingame name as a nick |
| 20:24.19 | JademusSreg | ?? |
| 20:24.30 | unfueled | Its always unavailable. |
| 20:24.47 | JademusSreg | What is the handle in question? |
| 20:24.54 | unfueled | I shoulda known better than to use my real name ingame: Merlin |
| 20:25.02 | JademusSreg | Haha, I see. |
| 20:26.00 | unfueled | Not sure y ppl always take my name as an alias :P |
| 20:26.19 | JademusSreg | Because they want to be powerful wizards. |
| 20:26.33 | JademusSreg | And part of being ap owerful wizard is having an impressive name. |
| 20:26.45 | unfueled | Sadly my father named me after said wizard lol |
| 20:27.10 | unfueled | So now my real name is always unavailable in the internet |
| 20:27.48 | JademusSreg | That is pretty great. |
| 20:28.01 | JademusSreg | I would suggest using a different handle, in that case. |
| 20:28.23 | unfueled | U know, i find that galaxy is a very lacking language |
| 20:28.39 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 20:28.54 | unfueled | I like andromeda, but i hate the though of having to compile my maps |
| 20:29.15 | JademusSreg | Superficially C-like syntax, only it's been neutered, and it has an event-driven paradigm. |
| 20:29.36 | unfueled | So i pretty much gave up and just used the gui scripting editor for everything and just find workarounds |
| 20:29.44 | JademusSreg | Andromeda is incomplete and unstable. I'll use it the day GeX returns from being a flake and fixes it. |
| 20:30.18 | JademusSreg | Beier's galaxy++ is a nice tool. |
| 20:30.32 | JademusSreg | And he -actually- works on it. |
| 20:30.46 | unfueled | I use the global data table for everything, its nice to have dynamic memory |
| 20:30.53 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 20:31.38 | unfueled | So, heres my problem: i use unit custom value 0 for unit ids |
| 20:32.15 | unfueled | If i help somebody else with their map, that spot is unavailable to them |
| 20:32.34 | JademusSreg | Not a big deal. Make a constant in your script for the id. |
| 20:32.45 | JademusSreg | Then people can change them as needed. |
| 20:32.46 | unfueled | Tried |
| 20:32.57 | unfueled | Oh, i get it |
| 20:33.03 | unfueled | Never thought of that |
| 20:33.05 | unfueled | Ty |
| 20:33.10 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 20:33.39 | unfueled | Like i was sayin before, i tried to build a power transfer "engine" |
| 20:34.01 | unfueled | Tried to make my code as plug&play as possible |
| 20:34.18 | JademusSreg | Modularity, yeah, I dig it. |
| 20:34.33 | JademusSreg | As few required data objects as possible. |
| 20:34.44 | unfueled | Yup |
| 20:35.11 | unfueled | Seperate namespace for datable and such |
| 20:35.48 | JademusSreg | I hail from wc3c. Most other coders from wc3 of which I am aware migrated from The Helper. A few from The Hive. |
| 20:36.59 | JademusSreg | From which do you come? |
| 20:37.44 | unfueled | None |
| 20:37.53 | unfueled | I started from scratch |
| 20:38.01 | AppleTempest | a wandering wizard |
| 20:38.08 | AppleTempest | i come from the shire |
| 20:38.23 | AppleTempest | gah im overwhelmed i dont wanna make custom chat layout files |
| 20:38.34 | AppleTempest | dooit for me jadeee |
| 20:38.49 | unfueled | My cousin said he wanted to see power towers in sc2, we looked and the maps were all unfinished pieces of shit. The functionality wasnt even there |
| 20:39.52 | unfueled | So i learned the map editor and began making myself the transfer engine which was so desperately needed as infrastructure |
| 20:40.33 | unfueled | Let me tell u, the online references for the galaxy editor r...um..."unfinished" |
| 20:41.10 | unfueled | Took a lot of trial and error before i finally gave up and began making my own functions in the gui editor lol |
| 20:42.17 | unfueled | Im just glad i finally found somebody with the same goal. Hopefully i can just help speed things along |
| 20:42.24 | unfueled | I miss power towers lol |
| 20:42.46 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 20:42.55 | JademusSreg | Apple, I can show you mine. |
| 20:43.12 | AppleTempest | yeah id like to see them |
| 20:43.58 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/HHeSAGmH |
| 20:44.22 | AppleTempest | i need to move the chat to the left of the screen and make it not as wide, and make another text box at tahe top center of the screen thats pretty imbiguous, like ur kill notifyer |
| 20:44.24 | JademusSreg | I should have included comments, but oh well. |
| 20:44.49 | JademusSreg | Check out what I did and you'll understand. |
| 20:55.10 | AppleTempest | problem with giving people options on the game mode in sc2 is there is no host :(, so they cant put the game mode in the title or anything |
| 20:55.31 | AppleTempest | can join a photon cycles game wanting to play with gaps and the pro way, and get nogap slayer instaed |
| 20:55.33 | AppleTempest | qq |
| 20:55.45 | JademusSreg | Haha, good point. |
| 20:56.02 | JademusSreg | Bnet is all kinds of messed up. |
| 20:56.30 | JademusSreg | I'm working on antoherm inor update. |
| 20:56.57 | AppleTempest | iv been thinking about it for awhile to, my map is planned to have 3 modes, Ranked Demolition (Default mode), Unranked Respawn(Team or FFA), and Campaign (or Team Survival) |
| 20:57.21 | JademusSreg | Time to give myself admin powers, so I can ban some deserving douche's. |
| 20:58.04 | JademusSreg | The problem is that pub matches can't have their lobby options set. |
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| 21:00.30 | JademusSreg | So I had a hunch, and sure enough, the Preload and Synchronize Bank GUI action doesn't amount to anything in galaxy. |
| 21:01.57 | pirate | it does nothing? |
| 21:02.07 | AppleTempest | More than nothing! |
| 21:03.00 | AppleTempest | its like a placebo |
| 21:03.16 | JademusSreg | A GUI trigger with the peload and synchronize bank action is just empty in galaxy. |
| 21:03.18 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 21:03.52 | JademusSreg | I'd say it's more like a preprocessor function or some shit. |
| 21:03.59 | JademusSreg | If it does anything. |
| 21:04.04 | pirate | ic |
| 21:04.24 | pirate | anyone know where all the wow item/spell icons are stored MPQ wise? |
| 21:04.37 | JademusSreg | That also explains why variables and expressions cannot be used. |
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| 21:13.36 | Bounty | So |
| 21:13.48 | Bounty | a rhythm bound map |
| 21:13.51 | Bounty | discuss |
| 21:14.12 | timecat | not with bnet lag |
| 21:14.23 | Bounty | it wouldnt use keypress |
| 21:14.26 | Bounty | hence the bound |
| 21:15.00 | Bounty | it would be like other bound maps only that the sequence of the obstacles is based off the music |
| 21:16.38 | AppleTempest | whats a bound map |
| 21:16.58 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD5DB_jnjoM |
| 21:17.22 | Bounty | of course, my map would be prettier than that lol |
| 21:17.53 | AppleTempest | yyyeaaah those.. |
| 21:18.18 | AppleTempest | We call that Casual map making |
| 21:18.29 | Bounty | ok? |
| 21:18.34 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:18.35 | AppleTempest | lol just a joke |
| 21:19.02 | Bounty | ive alraedy done enough big stuff, dont have time for it anymore |
| 21:19.07 | AppleTempest | nah i used to be the leader of a big map making clan, and i swear 50% of the map makers in the clan just made those kinda maps |
| 21:19.25 | Bounty | well thats silly |
| 21:19.34 | AppleTempest | so when i see a map like that |
| 21:19.38 | AppleTempest | im like "yep.." |
| 21:19.41 | Bounty | if your in a clan i would think you would do bigger projects since you have a team |
| 21:19.56 | Bounty | i work alone, so thats why im not trying to focus on big projects nemore >< |
| 21:21.15 | AppleTempest | i work alone, but i dont have a life, so im free to live my life |
| 21:21.20 | Bounty | >< |
| 21:26.10 | Bounty | i swear, i cant log in without getting like 5 PM's about Doodad Hunt |
| 21:26.18 | Bounty | its been almost a year since i made that damn map |
| 21:27.24 | AppleTempest | lol u made that ;p |
| 21:27.28 | AppleTempest | nice to meet u |
| 21:27.33 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:27.41 | Bounty | =P |
| 21:28.02 | Bounty | wish i never made it |
| 21:28.26 | Bounty | tis a curse, now i cant get anything else popular lolol |
| 21:32.41 | AppleTempest | i think a lot of doodad hunts investments went into advertisement |
| 21:32.58 | Bounty | Actually |
| 21:33.09 | Bounty | all i did was advertised it the same way i advertise all of my maps |
| 21:33.19 | Bounty | make a thread on bnet forums, TL forums and mapster forums >< |
| 21:33.20 | timecat | how's that |
| 21:33.23 | timecat | ah |
| 21:33.38 | Bounty | and i always make a video |
| 21:33.46 | Bounty | bc nobody reads neways >< |
| 21:36.11 | Bounty | i wonder how long it would take to build ONE level in that map i was talking about though |
| 21:36.15 | Bounty | would take atleast 10 hours lol |
| 21:36.37 | Bounty | to sync/build an entire puzzle with the music |
| 21:37.08 | AppleTempest | howed you change the text style jade |
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| 21:40.04 | AppleTempest | the very mysterious Text editor |
| 21:42.30 | unfueled | With all the maps i've played, i find that there is a lack of unique concepts. |
| 21:42.53 | AppleTempest | well ur gonna love mine |
| 21:42.58 | unfueled | It seems like sc2 revitalized that however. |
| 21:43.13 | unfueled | Squadron TD for example |
| 21:43.21 | unfueled | I like that map |
| 21:43.53 | AppleTempest | there is a great lack of real inspiration and creativity in almost all the maps iv played |
| 21:44.24 | unfueled | Course.. i think the mapping community should work a little more together to produce some good creativity |
| 21:44.26 | AppleTempest | but map makers dont think of themselves as painters or artists |
| 21:44.36 | unfueled | Well they should |
| 21:44.48 | Bounty | Creativity will get you nowhere |
| 21:44.57 | Bounty | People dont want new maps |
| 21:45.00 | Bounty | They want remakes |
| 21:45.01 | JademusSreg | Bounty, if you could sync events in the map with the music, that would be pretty intense. |
| 21:45.04 | unfueled | But they should also think of themselves as inventors and engineers |
| 21:45.14 | Bounty | I've done it before JademusSreg |
| 21:45.20 | Bounty | the problem is... its ALOT of code |
| 21:45.28 | AppleTempest | im not trying to get anywhere, and inspiration is the driving force of my creativity bounty |
| 21:45.34 | JademusSreg | Too bad you can't parse the music itself. |
| 21:45.42 | Bounty | Take this for example |
| 21:45.42 | unfueled | Bounty, u say that...but they want remakes of original concepts |
| 21:45.46 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjeUfrohdKk |
| 21:45.52 | Bounty | that is 2 action definitions |
| 21:46.00 | Bounty | 2 because the first 1 was to big |
| 21:46.04 | Bounty | so i had to split it into 2 |
| 21:46.05 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:47.26 | Bounty | Just take what i did in that video with the flames and make it into a bound >< |
| 21:47.57 | unfueled | i should make a resource system akin to supreme commander :P |
| 21:49.24 | Bounty | You know what the one major problem is JademusSreg |
| 21:49.30 | Bounty | it would have to be very low player count lol |
| 21:49.41 | Bounty | even though it wouldnt use any keypress and just standard sc2 controls |
| 21:49.46 | Bounty | if there is a lagger |
| 21:49.48 | Bounty | the game is done |
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| 21:59.47 | unfueled | Timecat: been meanin to ask, is ur power towers a pure remake? |
| 22:00.03 | AppleTempest | Where did you change the Text Styles for the chat jade? |
| 22:00.13 | AppleTempest | jademusreg |
| 22:02.00 | Owls | hey everyone, is there a way to use a behavior to modify an ability range? |
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| 22:08.32 | Bounty | is there a way to view the duration of a song down to miliseconds in WMP? |
| 22:09.13 | Zanryu | for milliseconds you should better look for a music editor programm |
| 22:09.26 | Bounty | bah |
| 22:25.15 | unfueled | Ooh...i just thought of something... |
| 22:25.33 | unfueled | Anyone here ever played the game alpha centauri? |
| 22:25.57 | Zanryu | never heard of |
| 22:26.09 | unfueled | Damn |
| 22:26.43 | unfueled | It had a unique setup for units...i wonder if i could implement that in sc2 |
| 22:28.21 | unfueled | Basically, rather than building a unit, u design the unit first. |
| 22:29.05 | unfueled | Nah, now that i think about it that'd be a lot of overhead and micromanagement |
| 22:30.45 | unfueled | Plus, i dont think the game engine has the support, i would have to build a subengine |
| 22:31.19 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 22:32.37 | JademusSreg | Apple, http://pastebin.com/2mrCLLxT |
| 22:33.05 | JademusSreg | The file exntesion is .SC2Style |
| 22:44.47 | JademusSreg | Unfueled, that might be feasible. |
| 22:45.02 | JademusSreg | A lot of work, though. |
| 22:45.52 | JademusSreg | For one thing, you'll need to work out a system that works on both the art assets side and the isn't ridiculous for the user. |
| 22:46.38 | unfueled | Well...when it comes to art i fail |
| 22:47.47 | unfueled | i can never seem to get animations to work right |
| 22:50.03 | unfueled | And on that note, id like to take a moment to mention that the neural parasite animation was coded by satan |
| 22:50.07 | timecat | oh hey fueled |
| 22:57.51 | unfueled | Sup. Sorry, im semi afk do to being at work lol |
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| 23:42.53 | unfueled | Timecat: do ur towers have a tower transfer limit or is it per connection? |
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| 23:50.01 | unfueled | timecat, im on sc2mapster.com as merlinludwig |
| 23:50.14 | unfueled | Speaking of which |
| 23:50.34 | merlinludwig | There we go |
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