| 00:01.11 | Nash|327 | next... THE WORLD! |
| 00:02.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster Frall (Frall@h-170-37.a212.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 00:05.11 | Nash|327 | now all we need is someone to complain about popularity system and such |
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| 00:27.00 | JademusSreg | I return. |
| 00:27.40 | JademusSreg | Congrats, Nash. |
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| 00:31.42 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 00:31.49 | Nash|327 | how is it doing on NA? |
| 00:31.52 | Fenix | I want to be able to reveal and hide a location on the map. The is create revealer but, i can't hide it after it got revealed. |
| 00:32.18 | Fenix | how to hide a revealed location? |
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| 00:32.50 | RipperRoo | NEIN! :D |
| 00:33.18 | Fenix | idea someone? |
| 00:33.34 | Apples04 | How do I add Multipul Impact Effects to a single Acton Actor? |
| 00:34.10 | Apples04 | *more than one* |
| 00:34.18 | Apples04 | lol |
| 00:34.32 | Fenix | how to hide a revealed location? |
| 00:34.35 | JademusSreg | I should probably check. I have been preoccupied working on the update. |
| 00:35.15 | Nash|327 | ah |
| 00:35.16 | Apples04 | enable/disable/destroy revealer fenix |
| 00:35.26 | Nash|327 | more crashtastic vehicles |
| 00:35.56 | Apples04 | need flinstones car with animated fred flinstone |
| 00:36.10 | Apples04 | WILL BE WORTH IT |
| 00:36.10 | JademusSreg | Yus. |
| 00:36.25 | JademusSreg | If someone models something like that, I'll use it. |
| 00:36.36 | JademusSreg | Also, Nyan Cat. |
| 00:36.47 | JademusSreg | Someone make a Nyan Cat photon cycle, please. |
| 00:37.22 | RipperRoo | wow ! |
| 00:37.43 | Apples04 | you could make it happen on a win streak and then give the person with the win streak rainbow walls or somthing like that, if u have nyan cat u need rainbow walls |
| 00:37.44 | RipperRoo | and when it drives it says nyan ynan nyan nyan nyan nyan |
| 00:37.49 | RipperRoo | and it makes a rainbow behind it |
| 00:37.49 | RipperRoo | !! |
| 00:38.03 | RipperRoo | we definitly need a nyan cat photon cycle |
| 00:38.41 | Apples04 | How do I add Multipul Impact Effects into a single Acton Actor? |
| 00:39.25 | JademusSreg | Explain? You want a single actor to respond to multiple effects? |
| 00:39.32 | Apples04 | nyan cat theme would make a perfect song for photon cycles on select rounds |
| 00:40.00 | Apples04 | no a single effect, i want an impact effect to have a spark effect adn a blood effect, just 2 different (VISUAL MODELS I MEAN), |
| 00:40.03 | Apples04 | lol |
| 00:40.06 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 00:40.08 | RipperRoo | yeah i think jade underestimates the power of nyan cat in a photon cycle game |
| 00:40.33 | JademusSreg | Just do it via actor events, create new models. |
| 00:41.15 | JademusSreg | I did something like that with my Tiberium poc map. |
| 00:41.49 | JademusSreg | And the models get destroyed along with the actor, so it's no issue. |
| 00:43.06 | JademusSreg | If you need to operate on these additional effects (such as retinting or scaling), though, then you need to create additional actors, by making the base actor spawn them via actor events, for instance. |
| 00:43.29 | JademusSreg | As for Nyan Cat, if someone makes it, I will use it. |
| 00:44.30 | Apples04 | just have to say it gets me exite to imagine your game with somone having a nyan cat cycle, and during that round there are 3d stars flashing all around, nyan cat theme playing, and rainbow walls |
| 00:45.08 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:45.24 | JademusSreg | If I ever implement bosses, I would use that idea. |
| 00:45.42 | Apples04 | to create a model with actor events i suppose i have to make the model an actor first |
| 00:46.18 | Fenix | what about a flash file? :P |
| 00:46.21 | Fenix | that just play |
| 00:46.22 | Nash|327 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/images/32/267/Terrain_018.jpg |
| 00:46.37 | Fenix | OMG |
| 00:46.47 | Apples04 | nah that models not worth |
| 00:46.54 | Apples04 | worthy |
| 00:47.54 | JademusSreg | That is hilarious. |
| 00:48.14 | Fenix | that is stupid -_- XDDD |
| 00:48.47 | Apples04 | also make the visuals on your game work on low settings |
| 00:48.52 | Fenix | a waste of time XD and what i dont know... is that I'm sure that people will play it |
| 00:49.15 | JademusSreg | Apples, I've fixed many things to help the game work on low settings. |
| 00:49.18 | Nash|327 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/nyan-cat/files/2-nyan-cat-1-1/ |
| 00:50.27 | JademusSreg | It doesn't even have the pastry sprinkles. |
| 00:51.00 | JademusSreg | And if it doesn't have sprinkles, it probably isn't animated. |
| 00:51.03 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:52.34 | Apples04 | cat must be trasformed into 3d so he has relativly the same proportions but he is looking forwards and has 4 legs, has little star effects that sparkle around him like the WoW Cestial Steed, it must also emit a rainbow ribbion and taste like a strawberry poptart that has not expired |
| 00:52.56 | Apples04 | must hop around |
| 00:53.25 | Apples04 | like hes floating pracing through the cosmos |
| 00:53.27 | JademusSreg | That sounds pretty good. |
| 00:53.30 | JademusSreg | Make it happen. |
| 00:53.46 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 00:56.25 | Nash|327 | http://andreehxd.deviantart.com/gallery/?q=nyan#/d3j3q59 |
| 01:03.38 | RipperRoo | hey guys if i just want a little text right top of the screen that displays the actual wave.. (which is in a variable) |
| 01:04.02 | RipperRoo | how to realize that.. ^^ is this a dialogue? if yes how i do one :S |
| 01:04.27 | JademusSreg | Yes, a dialog. |
| 01:04.52 | JademusSreg | Unless you want to hijack a text display frame via a layout mod. |
| 01:05.28 | RipperRoo | nah no UI yet |
| 01:05.58 | Apples04 | You have to first create a Dialog then create a Dialog Label for that dialog |
| 01:06.28 | JademusSreg | Yup |
| 01:07.09 | RipperRoo | ah ok |
| 01:07.46 | RipperRoo | if i remember correct there was something like a dialogue editor or creator on sc2 mapster.. is it easy to use and can u advise it? |
| 01:08.24 | JademusSreg | I know Mexa and some other guy are working on utilities for that. |
| 01:09.17 | Apples04 | would be cool to have an interface like photoshop and you can just drag stuff around and change their values and have it just be translated into triggers |
| 01:09.25 | Apples04 | ofc |
| 01:09.28 | Apples04 | lol |
| 01:11.19 | Mexa | Jademus, if only these god butthole blendmodes cooperated with me.. |
| 01:11.26 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 01:11.42 | Rndmobjcts | whats the best code to paste a gui code as so its easy to read? |
| 01:13.13 | RipperRoo | mexa so there is no dialogue editor or smth? |
| 01:13.48 | Mexa | There is one, ingame dialog designer |
| 01:14.07 | RipperRoo | easy to use and can u advise it |
| 01:14.09 | RipperRoo | ? |
| 01:14.42 | Mexa | Made by Doubotis, I've tried it, and it works fairly well but it has its disadvatages |
| 01:15.10 | Nash|327 | kittunbag, bag with kittun |
| 01:15.13 | Mexa | I've not yet tested to actually save something I made in there, but it do give you a "what you see is what you get" |
| 01:15.44 | Nash|327 | guess what you get for completing Tier 5 in Frontline |
| 01:15.45 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 01:15.54 | JademusSreg | Kittuns? |
| 01:16.01 | RipperRoo | ok ive found create dialog .. now i am searching the german version of dialog labe .S |
| 01:16.05 | Nash|327 | in what? |
| 01:16.11 | JademusSreg | In a bag. |
| 01:16.12 | Mexa | Advising it tho? I don't know. I would use a more lightweight way as an external designer, once one comes out. |
| 01:16.16 | Nash|327 | Yes! |
| 01:16.25 | Nash|327 | You get the Kittun Bag ability |
| 01:16.34 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 01:16.43 | Nash|327 | which can be used to summon kittun pet that follows you around |
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| 01:16.50 | Nash|327 | the icon is a kittun bag |
| 01:17.04 | Rndmobjcts | ok well i just pasted it, can anyone help me understand why this only creates a leaderboard row for me when i go online and test it with a comp player, shouldnt it show like "computer" or something instead of nothing, it doesnt even show the kills/caps set for anyone but me, given i need to test it with another player still... |
| 01:17.25 | Rndmobjcts | http://pastebin.com/tJHjeetK |
| 01:17.26 | Nash|327 | though it only exists on EU :G |
| 01:17.35 | Mexa | RipperRoo, if you still want to play around with it and judge for yourself: http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/dialog-designer/ |
| 01:18.01 | RipperRoo | thanks mexa but if u say it has its disadvantages ill try to learn it manually :D |
| 01:18.16 | Mexa | :> |
| 01:20.41 | RipperRoo | jesus christ there are too many dialogue actions |
| 01:21.12 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 01:21.27 | Nash|327 | http://i.imgur.com/zh5Ob.jpg |
| 01:21.41 | JademusSreg | Any map worth playing has extensive dialog work, I opine. |
| 01:21.53 | RipperRoo | nash poser ! |
| 01:22.03 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 01:22.25 | JademusSreg | Excellent. |
| 01:22.51 | Rndmobjcts | anyone? >.> |
| 01:23.04 | RipperRoo | i dont even need these boxes atm.. just function "Current wave: X |
| 01:23.14 | JademusSreg | I don't use leaderboards, I make my own scoreboards with dialogs, sorry. |
| 01:23.17 | RipperRoo | oh i missused the word function again hehe |
| 01:23.41 | Nash|327 | I use a boss bar but it bugs out a fair bit |
| 01:23.44 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 01:23.58 | JademusSreg | I can share some bar-related code with ya, if you like. |
| 01:24.11 | JademusSreg | How to do it via dialogs. |
| 01:24.11 | RipperRoo | yah if you would do so id be glad |
| 01:24.22 | Fenix | who want to try my map, it's finnaly fully working =DDDDDD |
| 01:24.33 | JademusSreg | Busy working on the update. =D |
| 01:24.38 | Fenix | xD |
| 01:24.41 | RipperRoo | or maybe just a simple map with a dialogue text liike "ololol you are noob" so i cann see what the actions names are in german editor |
| 01:24.48 | Fenix | taht will be a huge update >.< |
| 01:25.08 | RipperRoo | fenix ofc.. nyan cat photon cycle will be revealed |
| 01:25.22 | Fenix | oh nooo... really? |
| 01:25.30 | RipperRoo | yes |
| 01:25.34 | Nash|327 | that can be your "unlock" that people want |
| 01:25.35 | Nash|327 | :P |
| 01:25.36 | RipperRoo | and only master league player can have it |
| 01:25.40 | Fenix | aw... i must say "FAIL" XD |
| 01:25.54 | RipperRoo | nonbeliever ! heretic! |
| 01:26.28 | Nash|327 | Shun the unbeliever! Shuuuun! |
| 01:26.37 | RipperRoo | shuuuunnah |
| 01:26.48 | RipperRoo | the dooooor |
| 01:27.46 | Nash|327 | Kittun Bag |
| 01:27.53 | RipperRoo | lets go to candy mountain yeeaahhh NEIN! |
| 01:28.00 | RipperRoo | :D |
| 01:28.05 | Fenix | um um |
| 01:28.20 | Nash|327 | magical leuropluradon |
| 01:28.22 | Fenix | n get sick caus you ate a mountain of candy? |
| 01:29.07 | Fenix | anyone from NA want to try my map? :P |
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| 01:29.11 | RipperRoo | put a banana in your ear... |
| 01:29.20 | Nash|327 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5im0Ssyyus <- |
| 01:29.21 | RipperRoo | sory EU region :P |
| 01:29.31 | RipperRoo | already watching again nash^^ |
| 01:29.38 | RipperRoo | u saw all 3 episodes? |
| 01:29.45 | Fenix | fail |
| 01:30.14 | Nash|327 | think so |
| 01:30.29 | Nash|327 | this atm though: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsh1W4X43kQ |
| 01:30.37 | RipperRoo | UAH they took my freakin kidney :( |
| 01:32.02 | Fenix | Well, if anyone from NA want to try my map then, look for: Double Build Micro. It's a double 1v1 with multiple option to make the gameplay harder or easier depending of your skills. It is to pratice multitasking and the use of control groups. |
| 01:32.30 | Nash|327 | It's so intense! |
| 01:32.37 | Fenix | it is |
| 01:32.45 | Nash|327 | DOUBLE BUILD MICRO ALL THE WAY |
| 01:32.51 | Nash|327 | WHAT DOES IT MEAN? |
| 01:32.52 | Fenix | when you set your cash to maximum 500 or you lose.... xD |
| 01:32.56 | JademusSreg | I can do quick tests sometime tonight if it's just to see if there are any bugs, if needed. |
| 01:33.10 | RipperRoo | hey jade u showing the dialogue thing ? :D |
| 01:33.11 | Fenix | that would be cool. |
| 01:33.18 | Fenix | ah just remeber a bug >.< |
| 01:33.18 | Fenix | shit |
| 01:33.32 | JademusSreg | Ripper, it's in galaxy script. If you can read galaxy script, then I would. |
| 01:33.40 | JademusSreg | Anyway, the basic principle is simple. |
| 01:33.40 | RipperRoo | >_> |
| 01:33.50 | Fenix | need to add just a little condition -_- and for that i must reupload everything up -_- |
| 01:33.54 | Nash|327 | that annoying moment when you just published and suddenly remember you were supposed to fix that one thing |
| 01:34.06 | Fenix | so much -_- |
| 01:34.11 | Fenix | the publish system suck |
| 01:34.12 | Fenix | xD |
| 01:34.13 | JademusSreg | You use a background image and a foreground image, give the foreground image the tiled property, and change its size relative to the value it gauges. |
| 01:34.27 | JademusSreg | Nash, I know that feeling. |
| 01:34.31 | RipperRoo | mexa can u maybe create a map without anything then just a simple dialgoe in the center of the map like "blablub" ? |
| 01:34.49 | Nash|327 | dialog tutorial, gogogo? |
| 01:34.49 | RipperRoo | please :D |
| 01:34.57 | Mexa | using gui? |
| 01:35.02 | RipperRoo | yes |
| 01:35.29 | Mexa | I'd recommend what nash says. There are some great tutorials about dialogs on the mapster forum |
| 01:35.36 | Mexa | And well, I don't have much time |
| 01:35.43 | RipperRoo | the problem is the german translation for me |
| 01:35.47 | RipperRoo | not the tutorial :S |
| 01:35.56 | Mexa | oh, hum. |
| 01:35.57 | Nash|327 | many tutorials have sample maps |
| 01:36.01 | Nash|327 | gogogo |
| 01:36.02 | RipperRoo | oh ok |
| 01:36.16 | Nash|327 | NEIN! |
| 01:37.02 | RipperRoo | NEIN! |
| 01:37.14 | Nash|327 | NINE! |
| 01:37.18 | JademusSreg | 9 |
| 01:37.30 | Nash|327 | 3² |
| 01:37.38 | JademusSreg | nin9 |
| 01:37.41 | Fenix | 568 481 987 635 |
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| 01:38.43 | Nash|327 | hgfghjjksdfkmadfnjsg |
| 01:38.44 | RipperRoo | 6+3 |
| 01:38.48 | JademusSreg | Hah |
| 01:39.10 | wOlfLinG | Ok, anyone familiar with Starcode? |
| 01:39.16 | RipperRoo | okay i searched for dialogue tutorial and there are only guys asking for some complex stuff -.- |
| 01:39.17 | RipperRoo | gogo |
| 01:39.20 | wOlfLinG | I need to compress a series of booleans |
| 01:39.53 | Nash|327 | maybe search for dialog tutorials instead ;G |
| 01:39.55 | Fenix | what do you want Ripper? |
| 01:40.10 | RipperRoo | ups :S |
| 01:40.12 | RipperRoo | NEIN! |
| 01:40.18 | RipperRoo | fenix its ok thanks :D |
| 01:40.23 | Fenix | k |
| 01:40.43 | wOlfLinG | Ripper, to use a dialog you create the dialog, then create dialog items such as buttons and labels |
| 01:40.56 | wOlfLinG | Posiiton them as you want, and add a trigger for when one is clicked |
| 01:41.17 | wOlfLinG | Remember to save each dialog and dialog item to a variable |
| 01:41.33 | Nash|327 | Yeah but his editor is in German, so it's all arbeit macht frei and juden raus etc |
| 01:41.36 | Fenix | Event: Dialog item used COndition: Wich dialogs is used.. |
| 01:41.45 | Fenix | lolll |
| 01:41.59 | Fenix | why he bough the game in german then ? >.< |
| 01:42.19 | Mexa | I guess because he is german |
| 01:42.24 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 01:42.26 | Fenix | a game is always better in his primary language |
| 01:42.31 | Nash|327 | BENÜTZERDEFINIERT |
| 01:42.32 | Fenix | :P |
| 01:42.38 | Mexa | I agreed on that tho |
| 01:42.40 | Nash|327 | Looks so fucking bad. |
| 01:43.07 | Nash|327 | People who upload maps with default "custom" text in German. |
| 01:43.13 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 01:43.19 | Nash|327 | That's like, instant dismissal. |
| 01:43.20 | Fenix | anyone speak french? Like that french song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRLfx5vr5rA |
| 01:43.24 | Mexa | If I recall it, you can download the game with another locale from your battle net account page. |
| 01:43.30 | JademusSreg | Someone ought to publish a map with that name in NA. |
| 01:43.35 | Nash|327 | Non, je ne peux parler francais. |
| 01:43.42 | JademusSreg | BENÃTZERDEFINIERT TD |
| 01:43.44 | Fenix | haha nice :P |
| 01:43.49 | RipperRoo | (03:41:41) (Mexa) I guess because he is german <-- thought it be obvious xD |
| 01:43.59 | Fenix | you know at less a bit how to say that you dont know speak french xD |
| 01:44.03 | RipperRoo | jade pssht my gaming title is a secret why u yelling it ?! |
| 01:44.14 | Rndmobjcts | can anyone help me test this leaderboard please? im NA |
| 01:44.28 | Fenix | use dialogs! XD |
| 01:44.42 | Fenix | nah seriously, do as you wish |
| 01:44.44 | Nash|327 | Mais oui, j'ai etudie francais dans l'ecole. |
| 01:44.47 | Fenix | im not a good reference xD |
| 01:44.58 | Fenix | Cool, for how long? :P |
| 01:45.06 | Nash|327 | Uh.... |
| 01:45.11 | Fenix | a few month minimum |
| 01:45.12 | Fenix | xD |
| 01:45.29 | RipperRoo | (03:40:05) (wOlfLinG) Ripper, to use a dialog you create the dialog, then create dialog items such as buttons and labels |
| 01:45.36 | RipperRoo | yeah ive create the dialog |
| 01:45.41 | RipperRoo | but i am searching for the label thing |
| 01:45.52 | Fenix | dialogs item (label) |
| 01:46.09 | Fenix | or dialogs item then you choose that it is a label |
| 01:46.20 | Nash|327 | let's see |
| 01:46.25 | Nash|327 | six years I guess D_D |
| 01:46.39 | Nash|327 | But I never really paid attention in school. |
| 01:46.43 | Fenix | a simple dialogs item can me multiple thing like checkbox, or slidething... |
| 01:47.01 | Fenix | Haha |
| 01:47.04 | RipperRoo | why to save it in a variable :S |
| 01:47.17 | Fenix | Comprends-tu si je t'écris en français? :P |
| 01:47.29 | Nash|327 | Oui. |
| 01:47.39 | Nash|327 | Mais je ne peux pas parler. |
| 01:47.41 | Fenix | C'est plus facile comprendre que composer? :P |
| 01:48.01 | Nash|327 | Et je ne peux pas beaucoup de mots. |
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| 01:48.37 | Nash|327 | I never really bothered, English is better. |
| 01:48.39 | Fenix | um, strange sentence xD But, if you mean that you dont know many words, then i understood you xD |
| 01:48.42 | Nash|327 | IT R A HAWKERFACE |
| 01:48.54 | Nash|327 | right |
| 01:48.58 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 01:49.17 | hawker | herro |
| 01:49.21 | hawker | sry about that nash -____- |
| 01:49.22 | Nash|327 | it lives ;G |
| 01:49.29 | Nash|327 | I made the 15th arena |
| 01:49.35 | hawker | was in variety of shacks without intenret |
| 01:49.39 | hawker | i see |
| 01:49.47 | Fenix | my english is probably not the best too xD Luckily, games are in english and helps to keep it longer. |
| 01:49.56 | Nash|327 | and some town redesign, it's sooo big D: |
| 01:50.01 | Fenix | i know i make lots of mistakes though |
| 01:50.03 | Fenix | -_- |
| 01:50.05 | JademusSreg | Nash, for future updates, change the name in a copy of the map and I can just localize it easily. |
| 01:50.06 | hawker | kk |
| 01:50.21 | JademusSreg | Foregoes the need for me to resort to mpq editing. |
| 01:50.28 | hawker | town redesign i can do |
| 01:50.29 | Nash|327 | JademusSreg has uploaded it :P |
| 01:50.36 | hawker | do you need any moar arena? i guess not |
| 01:50.38 | Nash|327 | Dresnia has done some work on town |
| 01:50.41 | Rndmobjcts | the problem for me with a dialog leaderboard is my map will have up to 14 players and that will be huge QQ but a scoreboard i can make to be only as big as there are players in the map, which i dont know how to do with a dialog |
| 01:50.41 | hawker | i can spruce up the others |
| 01:50.49 | Nash|327 | so now we have... |
| 01:50.52 | Nash|327 | my copy |
| 01:50.56 | Nash|327 | Dresnia's copy |
| 01:50.58 | Nash|327 | your copy |
| 01:51.05 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 01:51.17 | Nash|327 | copy/paste! |
| 01:51.19 | RipperRoo | ah lol i just saw in our own section we got a tutorial about dialogs :S btw even about leaderboards for the one who is searching for hel phere :S |
| 01:51.50 | Nash|327 | have to find a way to coordinate it |
| 01:51.59 | hawker | :( |
| 01:52.13 | Nash|327 | and I update very often since I encounter bugs/balance issues |
| 01:52.16 | hawker | well, at least i have internet now |
| 01:52.28 | Nash|327 | and I get craploads of PMs every time I'm online |
| 01:52.35 | Rndmobjcts | yea ive seen the tutorials but my problem is pretty specific, and idk why its not working, i guess i need to test the new version with another player atleast instead of a computer but i cant get anyone to log on and join it for me lol |
| 01:52.41 | Nash|327 | people asking for additions, changes, help, whatever |
| 01:53.20 | Nash|327 | problem with being in 5th place |
| 01:53.21 | Apples04 | hows your map doing now nash |
| 01:53.31 | Apples04 | 5th? first page? |
| 01:53.35 | hawker | yarp |
| 01:53.36 | Nash|327 | http://i.imgur.com/VQkwY.jpg |
| 01:53.39 | hawker | well |
| 01:53.41 | hawker | gj |
| 01:53.41 | hawker | on that especially |
| 01:53.51 | Apples04 | wow |
| 01:53.53 | Apples04 | ^^ |
| 01:54.28 | Nash|327 | hawker: http://i.imgur.com/zh5Ob.jpg |
| 01:54.30 | Nash|327 | :P |
| 01:54.33 | Apples04 | look like the best map there too, cept i donno if sotis is any good, havent played it |
| 01:54.51 | hawker | lololololoolol |
| 01:54.52 | hawker | nice |
| 01:55.55 | Nash|327 | it has like 5600 hours played |
| 01:56.00 | Nash|327 | it's insane D_D |
| 01:56.10 | Nash|327 | or was it 6000 something? |
| 01:56.11 | hawker | well |
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| 01:56.15 | Nash|327 | eh, can't keep track |
| 01:56.30 | hawker | not a bad problem to have |
| 01:56.34 | hawker | ;) |
| 01:56.35 | hawker | in a way |
| 01:56.45 | hawker | have you gotten it featured? |
| 01:57.00 | Nash|327 | featured? |
| 01:57.09 | hawker | on sc2mapster |
| 01:57.15 | Nash|327 | no |
| 01:57.35 | hawker | you should |
| 01:58.02 | Mexa | Meh, I'm going to bed again |
| 01:58.06 | Mexa | Laters |
| 01:58.07 | hawker | waffle |
| 01:58.10 | Fenix | ciao |
| 01:58.10 | hawker | buyyyy |
| 01:58.40 | Nash|327 | Well I sent info to Sixen. |
| 01:59.01 | Nash|327 | Mostly needs a bit of advertising for the NA version. |
| 01:59.08 | Nash|327 | Dunno if anyone plays it. |
| 01:59.13 | Nash|327 | Or knows it exists. |
| 01:59.25 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 01:59.39 | JademusSreg | Without proper advertising, I expect few people are aware it exists. |
| 02:01.05 | Nash|327 | On EU it skyrocketed. |
| 02:01.18 | Nash|327 | But I pimped it some on custom channel. |
| 02:01.35 | Nash|327 | and had some testers who had played it before |
| 02:02.06 | Rndmobjcts | whats it called? |
| 02:02.11 | Nash|327 | Frontline NA |
| 02:02.22 | JademusSreg | I can try and promote it through my contact networks when I have the time. |
| 02:02.25 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 02:02.28 | Nash|327 | keke |
| 02:02.35 | Nash|327 | sweet |
| 02:02.47 | Rndmobjcts | yea its only got... 17 seconds played xD |
| 02:03.04 | Nash|327 | I'll get you an updated version some time. |
| 02:03.20 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 02:03.32 | Nash|327 | I update 1-2 times a day :G |
| 02:03.55 | Nash|327 | But I don't want to pester you often, so it'll be more cumulative updating for NA :P |
| 02:04.06 | JademusSreg | Good. |
| 02:04.41 | JademusSreg | That'll work with my schedule. Wednesday is a common tech support day, so the day after that shit, Thursday, would be optimal. |
| 02:05.09 | Nash|327 | need to merge all these versions |
| 02:05.11 | JademusSreg | *tech support/ update |
| 02:05.16 | Nash|327 | fix some small bugs |
| 02:11.12 | Nash|327 | SLEEP |
| 02:11.17 | Nash|327 | MY OLD NEMESIS |
| 02:11.22 | Nash|327 | WE MEET AGAIN |
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| 02:14.10 | RipperRoo | aw cmon |
| 02:14.15 | RipperRoo | this dialog shit cannot be so hard |
| 02:14.15 | RipperRoo | -. |
| 02:14.23 | Fenix | ok so, my map is publish. Why is it never the same thing in a test document that on b.net -_- There a few bugs or delay more... |
| 02:14.44 | Fenix | Could it be many Periodic event 0.5 sec that makes the game slower? |
| 02:14.58 | hawker | because bnet 2.0 is so great, you're map can't actually handle it |
| 02:15.01 | JademusSreg | Multiplayer introduces players that can easily mess up things that work in single player. |
| 02:15.12 | JademusSreg | For instance, the use of PlayerGroupAll() |
| 02:15.14 | Fenix | in a test doc i have more fps than on b.net |
| 02:15.14 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 02:15.56 | Fenix | you think PlayerGroup make the game slower? |
| 02:16.26 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 02:16.30 | Fenix | xD |
| 02:16.49 | JademusSreg | I mean that PlayerGroupAll even gets inactive / observing players. |
| 02:16.53 | Fenix | then player groups, for that map, i dont care about. |
| 02:16.54 | Fenix | caus its a single player map |
| 02:18.14 | Fenix | keypress event get a brief delay on b.net =/ |
| 02:18.37 | JademusSreg | Definitely. |
| 02:19.16 | Fenix | its similar my button for the warpgate or idle worker... but it is way not as instant as the real ones. |
| 02:19.23 | JademusSreg | Overhead of synchronizing input state data on top of the mandatory 250 ms latency imposed, and that is in addition to individual latency problems for each player. |
| 02:20.43 | Fenix | what do you think could lower the fps in my map? |
| 02:20.57 | hawker | Jademus, I'm not sure if this more appropriate to tell you, or Nash, but the description on frontline is cut off |
| 02:21.10 | JademusSreg | Lots of periodic triggers, nearly a million ops per thread, stuff like that. |
| 02:21.15 | JademusSreg | Also, Terrain Object bug. |
| 02:21.33 | Fenix | i dont have any terrain object |
| 02:22.10 | JademusSreg | Hawker, that's something Nash should be told; if he confirms its on his end, then it's no problem. If it's only on my end, that means it's a problem with the localizer. |
| 02:22.13 | Fenix | i got a trigger with "million" of if then else, but it fire only one time at start when pressin on a button |
| 02:22.22 | hawker | k |
| 02:22.58 | Fenix | does just having it in the trigger make the game lag? |
| 02:23.04 | JademusSreg | Fenix, the terrain object bug involves something like hundreds or thousands of terrain object entries being written to the map object data for no reason. |
| 02:23.35 | Fenix | meaning? i could have that bug in my map?! |
| 02:23.51 | RipperRoo | i am going to bed :S gn8 guys |
| 02:23.57 | Fenix | see ya |
| 02:24.02 | JademusSreg | Maybe. I don't know enough about your map to hazard a guess. |
| 02:24.33 | Fenix | if you go on b.net and dl it you will have it. I haven't protected it |
| 02:24.44 | Fenix | atm |
| 02:25.05 | Fenix | there isn o reason why i would protect it when it is not played xD |
| 02:28.01 | Fenix | i got 76 periodic event |
| 02:28.20 | Fenix | most of them are 0.5 sec |
| 02:29.12 | Fenix | i might be able to remove about 50-60 of them |
| 02:29.24 | JademusSreg | YEAH. |
| 02:29.33 | JademusSreg | Accidental caps. |
| 02:29.37 | JademusSreg | But yeah, that's causing it, |
| 02:29.45 | JademusSreg | That's 76 threads, man. |
| 02:29.53 | Fenix | from how many periodic event it creats lag? |
| 02:30.06 | JademusSreg | In a simple sense, yes. |
| 02:30.08 | Fenix | idk what it means... |
| 02:30.15 | JademusSreg | Make everything run off one. |
| 02:30.25 | JademusSreg | Make them all run off a single periodic trigger. |
| 02:30.35 | JademusSreg | It's easier than youm ight expect. |
| 02:30.48 | JademusSreg | Provided you organize the sequences of actions with custom action definitions. |
| 02:30.49 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 02:30.49 | Fenix | um um |
| 02:31.06 | Apples04 | btw jade thought this would be a lil map makin stat ud like |
| 02:31.25 | Fenix | just have 1 periodic event that fire "Run trigger" and then w/e trigger you need... |
| 02:31.31 | Apples04 | having 8000 units on the map no draw causes no lag or anything of teh sort |
| 02:31.49 | Apples04 | onscreen |
| 02:31.52 | Fenix | 8k units on the map.... ouch my computer <.< |
| 02:32.46 | Fenix | Jade, from how many actions in a trigger it starts lagging? XD |
| 02:33.02 | Fenix | if it is only many "Run trigger" |
| 02:35.34 | Fenix | not cool... you can't desactive a folder -_- |
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| 02:51.22 | Fenix | yé, just removed about 60 periodic event |
| 02:51.35 | Apples04 | jesus |
| 02:51.40 | Fenix | like 80 triggers convert to 8 xD |
| 02:52.03 | Fenix | you know... I'm still at sc1 where triggers dont make the game lag xD |
| 02:52.24 | Fenix | at very less.. |
| 02:52.27 | Fenix | or* |
| 02:53.15 | Fenix | i'll try to get only 1 perdiodic event... or probably 2 or 3. maximum |
| 02:53.25 | Fenix | for 3 different value of the periodic |
| 02:55.50 | Apples04 | how many complete revisions must a map go through? |
| 02:56.01 | Apples04 | have I been condemed to a realm of infinite map revisions? |
| 02:56.11 | Apples04 | I guess I may never know |
| 02:56.11 | Fenix | lol.. |
| 02:56.23 | Fenix | a map is never finish in my mind |
| 02:56.33 | Fenix | there is always something to add, to change, to fix. w/e |
| 02:56.41 | Fenix | a better way to do.. |
| 02:56.51 | Apples04 | i mean when you spend an entires week time making very very good terrain |
| 02:57.07 | Apples04 | and then you decide your going to tear it down and remake it |
| 02:57.36 | Fenix | well, that's your choice. |
| 02:57.46 | Fenix | Never delete a old map |
| 02:57.47 | Fenix | :P |
| 02:57.57 | Fenix | or if you make a big change, save it under another name |
| 02:58.04 | Fenix | thats what i do |
| 02:58.08 | Fenix | to have backup |
| 02:58.13 | Fenix | in case of anything not working |
| 02:58.21 | Fenix | or just a changed mind |
| 02:58.42 | Apples04 | i just say fuck it, WEL DO IT LIVE |
| 02:59.07 | Apples04 | not really |
| 02:59.52 | Fenix | those are beast at guitare: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOVg7BtevYU |
| 03:04.25 | Apples04 | iv never made anything near a physics system and now i will try to make a physics system where you can jump off/over, and climb onto anything and everything of appropriate height |
| 03:04.31 | Apples04 | from scratch |
| 03:04.48 | Apples04 | O.o many revisions i see in the future |
| 03:04.49 | Fenix | lol gl |
| 03:05.08 | Fenix | i saw a video on youtube where someone made a physic system with stacked baneling xD |
| 03:06.14 | Apples04 | last time i tryed to make one along time ago, i couldnt figure out how to make it so a unit that is sitting still on a slope that is steep, to have the unit automatically slide down it |
| 03:06.21 | Apples04 | and gave up |
| 03:06.51 | Fenix | actually, im not that advanced in the editor xD |
| 03:07.41 | Apples04 | just get familiar with the editors capabilities and how to do them, than you can do anything you can imagine up with it |
| 03:08.01 | Fenix | :P |
| 03:08.10 | Fenix | step 1: pratice |
| 03:08.14 | Fenix | step 2: learn |
| 03:08.20 | Fenix | step 3: create |
| 03:08.29 | Fenix | step ...: make something good |
| 03:08.46 | Fenix | im at steps 2.5 xD |
| 03:15.21 | Fenix | so, instead of 76 periodic event i got 3. It might be better um? |
| 03:16.59 | JademusSreg | Should be. |
| 03:28.07 | Fenix | does player 0 exist? |
| 03:28.51 | Fenix | yeah its neutral... but why give unit to neutral wont work um... prob something wrong.. |
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| 03:31.28 | Frostwind | hey |
| 03:31.49 | Fenix | yo |
| 03:31.55 | Frostwind | Anyone know of a way to place Dialogs under UI items like the Command Card? |
| 03:32.14 | Fenix | why placing a dialog 'under' the UI? |
| 03:32.39 | Fenix | if you do so you cant clic on it? |
| 03:32.52 | Frostwind | I just need to know |
| 03:33.43 | Fenix | i dont know if there is an order of apparition... like if you 'hide' the ui, show the dialogs, then show the ui xD (probaly stupid) |
| 03:33.44 | Fenix | xD |
| 03:33.50 | JademusSreg | I don't see any property for that. |
| 03:34.42 | Fenix | just make it invisible? |
| 03:34.48 | Fenix | alpha 100%? |
| 03:34.59 | JademusSreg | Why would you place a dialog under a UI frame anyway? |
| 03:35.18 | Fenix | that was my question ! XD |
| 03:35.46 | Frostwind | I still need to be able to see the command card |
| 03:35.50 | Fenix | do you think its better 3 periodic event then 76 Jade? XD |
| 03:36.02 | Fenix | make it invisible Frost ? |
| 03:36.21 | Fenix | you'll see the command card and the dialog will be there |
| 03:36.31 | Fenix | but you wont see it 'like if' it was under |
| 03:36.39 | JademusSreg | There is no think about it, having 76 separate threads going off at once is ridiculous and overtaxing for the VM |
| 03:36.54 | Fenix | lol.. |
| 03:36.55 | Frostwind | Like i just said Fenix I still need to be able to see the command card. |
| 03:37.21 | JademusSreg | Is the dialog intended to be interactive? |
| 03:37.25 | Fenix | u'll see the command card if the dialogs is invisible -_- |
| 03:38.03 | JademusSreg | If so, I can give you a texture to make the dialog back alphaed out. |
| 03:38.08 | Frostwind | Neither can be hidden |
| 03:38.43 | JademusSreg | Hiding and transparency won't help; you need a custom back image. |
| 03:38.57 | JademusSreg | I can show ya how, as I do it in my own map. |
| 03:39.02 | Fenix | aint sure of that |
| 03:39.04 | Fenix | anyway |
| 03:39.08 | Fenix | im not the best XD |
| 03:39.20 | JademusSreg | I am certain, as I have attempted the alternatives. |
| 03:39.24 | Frostwind | I need to place the dialog under the command card |
| 03:39.49 | Fenix | but.. do you want to be able to clic on the dialogs? |
| 03:39.52 | JademusSreg | Not feasible. |
| 03:40.03 | Frostwind | its not for clicking on |
| 03:40.09 | Frostwind | just artwork |
| 03:40.14 | JademusSreg | If all you want is a custom image, mod the UI layout files. |
| 03:40.23 | Fenix | ok, like a background image for the command card? |
| 03:40.23 | JademusSreg | I do that in photon cycles, pew pew |
| 03:40.29 | Frostwind | but needs to be accessible by triggers |
| 03:40.43 | JademusSreg | Then it is not feasible. |
| 03:40.56 | Fenix | or |
| 03:41.08 | Fenix | you make you image have hole for the buttons xDD |
| 03:41.22 | JademusSreg | Accessible to triggers and rendered behind a UI element are mutually exclusive. |
| 03:41.32 | Fenix | lol |
| 03:41.40 | JademusSreg | Fenix, that idea isn't so bad. |
| 03:41.44 | JademusSreg | It would work. |
| 03:41.45 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 03:41.48 | Fenix | :P |
| 03:42.32 | Fenix | you just have to modify your image with exact number of pixel for the command card. |
| 03:42.33 | Fenix | xD |
| 03:42.42 | Fenix | and buttons |
| 03:44.13 | Frostwind | I'm placing dialog images under the command card that I need to be able to change through triggers |
| 03:44.45 | Fenix | yeah, modify your image so it has holes for the buttons. |
| 03:44.45 | Fenix | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:45.05 | Fenix | it will looks like if it was behind, even if it is not |
| 03:45.18 | Frostwind | some of the images will be directly under the buttons |
| 03:46.01 | Fenix | um... well... what about a totally custom UI ? >.< xD |
| 03:46.29 | Fenix | or |
| 03:46.48 | Fenix | you set your images that are "over" the buttons with an transparency |
| 03:46.54 | Fenix | it will looks like behind =D |
| 03:47.33 | Fenix | there might be a way.. no? |
| 03:47.35 | JademusSreg | Nope. Custom defined UI elements are nto accessible via trigger. Dialogs cannot be forced to render behind UI elements to my knowledge. |
| 03:47.48 | JademusSreg | Which is why these goals are mutually exclusive. |
| 03:48.08 | Fenix | thats why i try to say to put every images in front of the UI |
| 03:48.21 | Fenix | but with holes and/or transparency |
| 03:48.22 | Fenix | xD |
| 03:49.28 | Fenix | brb, testing my map for the 150th times -_- |
| 03:51.47 | Frostwind | Fenix: problem with putting all the images in front of the command card is that some of the images will be directly under the buttons on the command card |
| 03:52.42 | Fenix | and the transparency, you think its for what? :P even if it is in front of a button, you'll see the button =D |
| 03:53.24 | Frostwind | but the button's cooldown doesn't show up enough to see through that |
| 04:00.06 | Fenix | if you want to put an image behind your button, you want to see it. If it doesn't show enough, put a higher alpha. |
| 04:00.13 | Fenix | thats what i would do |
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| 04:14.20 | Apples04 | is there no secret hope/way to make it so the games camera is completely uneffected by terrain? |
| 04:14.52 | Fenix | lol... as i can see, Everything is affected by terrain >.< xD |
| 04:15.05 | Fenix | dunno if im wrong though |
| 04:15.43 | Apples04 | when the camera passes over a steep terrain change, or a cliffside, even when everything is turned off and the camera is set to remain at the same height... |
| 04:16.00 | Apples04 | the cameras height will VIOLENTLY CHANGE UP AND DOWN |
| 04:16.38 | Fenix | caus i think it is based on the terrain... so if the terrain raise, the camera will raise to keep the same distance from the terrain |
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| 04:17.27 | Apples04 | this makes every system of having custom multipul terrain heights/ Jumping/Climbing, all 3d pathing |
| 04:17.32 | Apples04 | Poop |
| 04:17.36 | Apples04 | turns it all to poop |
| 04:17.41 | Apples04 | just cuz a camera jolt |
| 04:17.57 | Fenix | dunno |
| 04:18.23 | Apples04 | the only other way fenix.. |
| 04:18.26 | Apples04 | THE ONLY OTHER WAY |
| 04:18.44 | Fenix | flat terrain? |
| 04:18.44 | Fenix | xD |
| 04:18.51 | Apples04 | is to make all the terrain and the entire map, including all the ground, out of Doodads. |
| 04:19.20 | Fenix | the camera is affect by doodate with footprint like bridges |
| 04:19.28 | Fenix | i think.. |
| 04:20.02 | Fenix | i used the Stone Zealot base to make something and the camera was changing heigh caus of it. |
| 04:20.09 | Fenix | i had a flat terrain -_- |
| 04:20.23 | Apples04 | well my collision isnt based on that |
| 04:20.46 | Apples04 | its based on Invisible Units, and Regions |
| 04:21.12 | Fenix | i dont know anything about colisions. xD |
| 04:21.49 | Apples04 | but using Units and Regions for collision |
| 04:22.03 | Apples04 | is completly useless for me, if i use terrain at al |
| 04:22.04 | Apples04 | all |
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| 04:23.27 | Apples04 | it is possible and relativly easy to Make a structure with 100 floors and staircases to everyfloor |
| 04:23.40 | Apples04 | all on top of eachother, all pathed out |
| 04:26.38 | Apples04 | so im just letting out my ANGER |
| 04:27.07 | Apples04 | that mah physics system is all ruined by a camera Bug. |
| 04:28.28 | Fenix | if there a way to set it fix... to make the camera heigh compare to a hidden doodate or w/e instead of terrain? So w/e the heigh of the terrain, the camera will folow the heigh of the doodate |
| 04:29.12 | Apples04 | NOPE |
| 04:29.15 | Apples04 | its a BUG |
| 04:29.25 | Apples04 | CUZ TEH EDITOR IS CRAP |
| 04:29.27 | Apples04 | GOOD DAY |
| 04:29.32 | Fenix | haha |
| 04:33.33 | Apples04 | atleast i dont have to do this revision now |
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| 04:48.52 | Fenix | yeah |
| 04:49.03 | Fenix | my map works and doesn't lag too much |
| 04:49.10 | Fenix | =D |
| 04:50.05 | Apples04 | its like when you walk near the bottom of a cliffs edge, if you tell the unit to ignore terrain height, and manually set the units height to the terrain height at the position of the unit, the unit will then float in the air by a bit, but the camera still behaves, and acts as if the terrain is not that high, the same as the unit would act without manually setting it there |
| 04:50.30 | Fenix | next thing to do, prevent ex: left player from casting Mule, recall or w/e in distance onto the right player area |
| 04:54.04 | Fenix | well, im done with the editor today. See ya =D |
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| 05:46.20 | Apples04 | i have another question, is there any way to change a units pathing from ground to fltying via trigger |
| 05:46.28 | Apples04 | or to ignore terrain |
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| 18:17.37 | Ashamed | woot got my first check today |
| 18:18.04 | Zanryu | are you pregnant? |
| 18:18.43 | Ashamed | .... i would not of conidered that sentence the way you did >< |
| 18:18.51 | Ashamed | no i got my first check as money |
| 18:18.55 | Ashamed | got a new job |
| 18:19.05 | Zanryu | gz as what? |
| 18:19.19 | Ashamed | As a Network Engineer |
| 18:19.32 | Zanryu | neat |
| 18:20.01 | Ashamed | i am missing 3 days on the check and its still 250 dollars more then what i am use too :) |
| 18:20.16 | Zanryu | what have you done before? |
| 18:26.11 | Hati|AFK | ~seen Hati |
| 18:26.18 | purl | hati <kvirc@dslb-088-074-130-254.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 22h 32m 18s ago, saying: 'why'. |
| 18:26.32 | Hati|AFK | ~seen Hati |
| 18:26.33 | purl | hati <kvirc@dslb-088-074-130-254.pools.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 22h 32m 33s ago, saying: 'why'. |
| 18:30.20 | Demonette | Mau... |
| 18:30.28 | Demonette | bored somehow... |
| 18:30.37 | Zanryu | still bored? |
| 18:30.55 | Demonette | Again and again and again |
| 18:30.55 | Hati|AFK | hmm? |
| 18:31.45 | Demonette | don't know if i just start modelling a biovore or if i should keep working on my range combat warriors |
| 18:32.01 | Demonette | and additional a little demotivated overall |
| 18:33.00 | Demonette | -.- |
| 18:33.18 | Demonette | nobody even cares |
| 18:34.20 | Zanryu | sometimes it's better when you're doing something different so your mind can relax for a while |
| 18:34.30 | Zanryu | if it's really a blockade |
| 18:35.11 | Demonette | I just want to do to many different things at the same moment =( |
| 18:35.22 | Zanryu | i know that very well XD |
| 18:35.56 | Demonette | Yeah i want my braineating gunts ready... |
| 18:36.07 | Demonette | and my close combat warriors |
| 18:36.13 | Demonette | and my 6 biovores |
| 18:36.19 | Demonette | and a harpy |
| 18:39.09 | Jum-Jum | Hi Demonette, I haven't seen you around for awhile |
| 18:40.46 | Demonette | thats true =D |
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| 18:48.51 | Dresnia | http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpy649oNz61qfpi1go1_500.jpg |
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| 18:59.15 | RipperRoo | hey guys if want to have a dialog that gives the actual wave ... do i have to delete the dialog + dialog item all the time before creating a new one? |
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| 19:13.01 | Vailreth | hello folks |
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| 19:45.30 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 19:45.35 | JademusSreg | I took a nap. |
| 19:45.41 | Zanryu | wb |
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| 20:01.48 | Demonette | Lalalala |
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| 20:07.35 | RndmObjcts | Didididi... Dadadada? |
| 20:07.37 | RndmObjcts | >.> |
| 20:11.27 | Demonette | Jadadadidada! |
| 20:11.40 | Beier | Shalalalala |
| 20:11.59 | Demonette | Tschakilalala! |
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| 20:37.09 | JademusSreg | Hey Nash. |
| 20:37.48 | JademusSreg | Can you get me the emblem for your map? I figured I will make some space for it on my laod screen to better assist in advertising it. |
| 20:37.57 | JademusSreg | *load |
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| 20:39.27 | Keyeszx | Anyone ever played aion? |
| 20:39.44 | JademusSreg | Is that another Korean MMO? |
| 20:39.56 | Keyeszx | yes but it had a cool idea |
| 20:40.12 | JademusSreg | Heaven Versus Hell? |
| 20:40.32 | Keyeszx | When you cast a spell there will be a chain spell |
| 20:40.45 | Keyeszx | So like fireball into fire nova into meteor |
| 20:40.54 | Keyeszx | and it would all be one sequence of a spell |
| 20:41.05 | Keyeszx | Is that possible in sc2? |
| 20:41.12 | Zanryu | sure |
| 20:41.18 | JademusSreg | Phew, I was about to say. Zoroastrianism had the whole Good vs Evil thing cornered millenia ago. |
| 20:41.43 | Keyeszx | Zoroastrianism? |
| 20:42.31 | JademusSreg | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism For reference. |
| 20:43.31 | Zanryu | ah old scool hell |
| 20:47.06 | Keyeszx | What would a zealot using charge look like with a shadow trail? |
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| 20:49.44 | JademusSreg | Probably kinda cool. |
| 20:50.26 | Currydevil | I am, thanks Jade. |
| 20:50.34 | Currydevil | =P |
| 20:50.47 | Keyeszx | lol |
| 20:50.50 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 20:53.10 | RndmObjcts | lol |
| 20:54.10 | Keyeszx | my worgen's ears are missing |
| 20:54.36 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 20:54.48 | Keyeszx | fixed it |
| 20:55.01 | Keyeszx | yay |
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| 20:56.46 | Nash|327 | JademusSreg: the logo? |
| 20:56.51 | Nash|327 | what size |
| 20:56.51 | JademusSreg | Yes |
| 20:57.00 | JademusSreg | Any. I'll scale it as needed. |
| 20:57.25 | Nash|327 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/19/115/Frontline.png there's one size |
| 20:57.47 | JademusSreg | Goot. |
| 20:58.04 | Nash|327 | cools ;G |
| 20:58.10 | Nash|327 | want a new version? |
| 20:58.22 | JademusSreg | If you like. |
| 20:58.32 | Nash|327 | with kittun bag and stuff |
| 20:58.41 | JademusSreg | I've got a serious bug ruining my day, for once. =D |
| 20:59.31 | JademusSreg | Since I'm not productive at the moment, I can take a minute to upload the map. |
| 21:00.07 | Nash|327 | 12 min left :( |
| 21:00.22 | JademusSreg | You'll change the map's name text on a copy of the file you make, yes? That will make localizing it easier. |
| 21:00.46 | JademusSreg | Otherwise, I change it using an mpq editor. |
| 21:02.35 | Nash|327 | changing map name fucks up the game variant |
| 21:03.12 | Nash|327 | I guess your MPQ approach doesn't? |
| 21:03.22 | JademusSreg | I guess not. Hah. |
| 21:03.51 | JademusSreg | All I do is get the game strings file, change the value for the given path, and close the mpq. |
| 21:04.13 | Nash|327 | well I won't change map name then, have to redo the teams if I do D_D |
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| 21:16.31 | Demonette | mh |
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| 21:34.47 | Nash|327 | bagtuns |
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| 21:41.29 | Keyeszx | anyone know how to fix worgen animations? a lot of them have a second set of arms |
| 21:41.44 | Zanryu | oO orly? |
| 21:42.57 | Zanryu | oO how strange |
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| 21:49.09 | JademusSreg | Frontline NA has been updated. |
| 21:49.41 | JademusSreg | It didn't take long to do it, but I spent most of the interim preparing dinner. |
| 21:49.46 | Keyeszx | what's Zealot's Walk Spell used for? |
| 21:50.19 | JademusSreg | Dunno. Charge perhaps? |
| 21:50.58 | Keyeszx | is tacomanstan doing sc2streamster? |
| 21:51.30 | JademusSreg | I don't see it on the front page. |
| 21:52.07 | Keyeszx | first he's gone for two or three weeks then he talks about popularity the whole thing when he comes back |
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| 22:11.21 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 22:11.58 | Nash|327 | now if Sixen could just post about it |
| 22:11.59 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 22:13.56 | Nash|327 | I just had a request to add more grind |
| 22:14.18 | Sixen | It's the next thing I think |
| 22:14.34 | Frostwind | anyone know the template path for creating a 'dialog item from template' for a single command card button? |
| 22:14.58 | Nash|327 | it gets boring, can you add more grind to improve your hero, etc |
| 22:15.21 | Nash|327 | I suppose more grind it is then :G |
| 22:15.43 | Nash|327 | if other people want it as well |
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| 22:18.59 | Demonette | Jadalada howdy how everybody! It's party time! |
| 22:20.18 | Demonette | XD and somebody is quitting |
| 22:25.27 | Frostwind | anyone know the template path for creating a 'dialog item from template' for a single command card button? |
| 22:28.10 | Nash|327 | kittunbag |
| 22:31.21 | RndmObjcts | anyone know how i would go about making a custom event that picks a random player in a player group? |
| 22:31.32 | timecat | yea |
| 22:31.41 | Nash|327 | custom event |
| 22:31.45 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 22:32.03 | timecat | nah make a trigger thats initially off with no events |
| 22:32.15 | timecat | and tell it to run via another trigger |
| 22:32.52 | Nash|327 | how does an event pick a random player? |
| 22:33.19 | timecat | rndm: i think what you want to do is pick the random player before you run the event |
| 22:33.28 | timecat | or trigger |
| 22:34.01 | Nash|327 | I find your question nonsensical. |
| 22:34.10 | RndmObjcts | well yea, i want to use a "pick players in player group and do actions" but i want it to pick any player in a specific group not all of them. |
| 22:35.09 | Nash|327 | Still not making sense. |
| 22:35.57 | Nash|327 | do you want to get a random player from a player group? |
| 22:36.28 | RndmObjcts | yea |
| 22:37.51 | Nash|327 | making now |
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| 22:39.39 | Apples4u | anyone know the character limit for a battlenet name? |
| 22:39.56 | Nash|327 | 12 I read somewhere |
| 22:41.33 | Apples4u | ty |
| 22:41.48 | Nash|327 | RndmObjcts: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29966228/RandomPlayer.SC2Map |
| 22:42.19 | Nash|327 | feel free to copy that function to your map and use |
| 22:44.21 | RndmObjcts | and can i set a global player group instead of the parameter? |
| 22:44.34 | timecat | should be fine |
| 22:44.44 | Nash|327 | just use the function |
| 22:45.26 | Frostwind | anyone know the template path for creating a 'dialog item from template' for a single command card button? |
| 22:45.51 | Nash|327 | it's a function |
| 22:45.53 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 22:46.21 | RndmObjcts | ok let me rephrase what im trying to do, in the map init, all players are added to a group called "players" and i want to pick a random player from that group and remove them from it then add them to another group "host" |
| 22:47.19 | Nash|327 | int randomplayer = Random Player From Player Group(players) |
| 22:49.25 | RndmObjcts | I R confused xD |
| 22:49.33 | Nash|327 | it's a function |
| 22:49.41 | Nash|327 | you use functions |
| 22:49.59 | Nash|327 | they are in the function list |
| 22:50.22 | Nash|327 | you send them parameters |
| 22:50.29 | Nash|327 | you get results back |
| 22:53.43 | RndmObjcts | so where do i add that function? |
| 22:54.14 | Nash|327 | where you want to get a random player |
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| 22:55.59 | RndmObjcts | i dont see it in the function list |
| 22:56.28 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 22:57.32 | Nash|327 | copy into map |
| 22:57.50 | Nash|327 | use where you want to get a player |
| 22:57.55 | RndmObjcts | sorry lol im a nub xD im still in the "pick each player from player group and do action" event and for "player group" im looking for the function i copied over, but i dont see it. am i in the wrong spot? |
| 22:58.09 | Nash|327 | it doesn't return player group |
| 22:58.16 | Nash|327 | it returns a player |
| 22:59.24 | Nash|327 | dunno wtf you need a pick each loop if you want a random player |
| 23:00.47 | Demonette | Requests! |
| 23:00.56 | Demonette | Zerg Icon Requests! |
| 23:01.23 | Nash|327 | onoes, ZEEERG |
| 23:01.33 | Demonette | Zerg Icon Rush! |
| 23:01.41 | Nash|327 | ^_^;; |
| 23:01.44 | Demonette | Hi nash ^^ |
| 23:01.47 | Nash|327 | zerg rush keke |
| 23:01.57 | Demonette | do you need some zerg icons? |
| 23:02.01 | Nash|327 | no |
| 23:02.13 | Nash|327 | I make my own icons anyway |
| 23:02.43 | Demonette | Really? Show me! |
| 23:02.57 | Demonette | I want to see em and to know what i can do better XD |
| 23:03.53 | Nash|327 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/16/313/Screenshot2011-05-20_06_59_18.jpg |
| 23:03.58 | RndmObjcts | alright now if i add "Player Group - Add player (Picked player) to The Host" to the function will it do that? or does it need to be triggering player? or am i way off here? |
| 23:04.10 | Nash|327 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/16/685/Screenshot2011-05-29_00_16_07.jpg |
| 23:04.33 | Nash|327 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/16/777/Screenshot2011-06-02_00_58_45.jpg |
| 23:04.48 | Nash|327 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/16/952/Screenshot2011-06-06_10_13_54.jpg |
| 23:04.53 | Demonette | Those look more like edits then like real own images |
| 23:05.05 | Nash|327 | mostly are |
| 23:05.46 | Demonette | Yeah i... see |
| 23:05.53 | Nash|327 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/17/265/Screenshot2011-06-14_06_06_49.jpg http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/17/375/Screenshot2011-06-17_02_02_01.jpg http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/17/424/Screenshot2011-06-18_15_02_45.jpg http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/17/552/Screenshot2011-06-21_01_39_42.jpg |
| 23:07.07 | Demonette | mmhh |
| 23:07.11 | Demonette | and? |
| 23:07.51 | Nash|327 | http://i.imgur.com/zh5Ob.jpg |
| 23:07.54 | Nash|327 | also kittun bag |
| 23:10.17 | Nash|327 | RndmObjcts I have no idea what you are on about |
| 23:10.42 | Nash|327 | you want to get a random player, but also use a pick each loop |
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| 23:10.54 | Nash|327 | but you don't actually want to pick each |
| 23:11.01 | Nash|327 | you want a random player! |
| 23:11.07 | Nash|327 | but with a pick each |
| 23:11.11 | Nash|327 | but random |
| 23:11.22 | Nash|327 | I WANT ALL OF THEM BUT ALSO RANDOM!!! |
| 23:11.35 | Nash|327 | It's just confusing. |
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| 23:14.41 | RndmObjcts | no i changed the action to add a player to a group, the problem is i also need to remove them from the "the players" group otherwise the dialog items will be disabled for them |
| 23:15.36 | Nash|327 | int randomplayer = Random Player From Player Group(players) |
| 23:15.53 | Nash|327 | remove randomplayer from players |
| 23:15.59 | Nash|327 | add randomplayer to host |
| 23:16.40 | Nash|327 | What's the problem? |
| 23:16.45 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 23:17.07 | RndmObjcts | wouldn't that be two different players? |
| 23:17.57 | Nash|327 | not if you save it to a variable at first |
| 23:18.24 | Nash|327 | As described. |
| 23:21.12 | RndmObjcts | ok i misunderstoond int, i wasnt thinking variable |
| 23:21.15 | RndmObjcts | i'll try it |
| 23:28.10 | RndmObjcts | ok i have another nub question, if say player 5 is added to "The host" and are the only player in the group does it make them player 1 of that group? or do i need to change that to the randomplayer int too? |
| 23:30.30 | Nash|327 | why do you even have a player group with 1 player? |
| 23:31.38 | RndmObjcts | for the settings screen of my map, the items are disabled for players in "ther players" group and enabled for the host but all changes made to the settings can be seen by all players in "the players" |
| 23:31.52 | RndmObjcts | the players* |
| 23:35.01 | Nash|327 | that does not explain why you need a player group with 1 player |
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| 23:35.56 | Nash|327 | too much hassle to use Convert Player to Player Group inside dialog triggers? D: |
| 23:35.58 | Fenix | JademusSreg is your update on? |
| 23:36.11 | Fenix | I would like to test it with a friend :P |
| 23:36.13 | RndmObjcts | so only the player in the group "the host" can use the dialog items >.> |
| 23:37.46 | Fenix | JademusSreg ? :P |
| 23:50.39 | Demonette | Largz! |
| 23:53.09 | Frostwind | anyone know the template path for creating a 'dialog item from template' for a single command card button? |
