| 00:00.06 | A1win | no it doesn't look like it |
| 00:00.13 | JademusSreg | I remember there are options that control minimap quality or something. |
| 00:01.14 | Caz | hmm |
| 00:01.19 | Caz | will have to look for that then |
| 00:31.38 | Vailreth | wooo just picked up my blizzcon virtual ticket |
| 00:34.12 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 00:34.24 | Vailreth | ish anyway |
| 00:34.36 | Vailreth | cool would be actually going |
| 00:35.56 | Vailreth | but thanks |
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| 00:55.16 | A1win | bwah not sure if this combo point system works that well for 3 different classes |
| 00:55.36 | A1win | can't think of any finisher moves for the brood lord |
| 00:55.52 | A1win | since using a finisher removes the combo points that themselves provide you with buffs |
| 00:56.01 | A1win | so the brood lord loses dps when it uses a finisher |
| 00:56.18 | A1win | archon does a powerful aoe attack or restores his shields so those are worth the dps loss |
| 00:57.25 | A1win | brood lord also uses the "combo points" to inrease its life regeneration rate, so he'd either lose those or dps... |
| 00:57.44 | A1win | and don't want the finishers to be too similar to archon's either =p |
| 00:59.38 | A1win | so the finishers are basically post combat abilities, or abilities that are intended to end the combat... |
| 00:59.56 | A1win | maybe I should use some other unit than brood lord to begin with =p |
| 01:00.11 | A1win | nah, meh... duh |
| 01:01.32 | A1win | oh right and the point of the finishers is to also drop the buffs so the player can choose new buffs that fit to the situation |
| 01:01.44 | `MindWorX | What other abilities does he have? |
| 01:01.56 | A1win | the brood lord? |
| 01:02.06 | `MindWorX | Ya |
| 01:03.32 | A1win | now he just has three different buffs, one that increases broodling attack speed, one inreases their critical hit chance and one inreases the brood lord's life regen... can stack up to 5 of those total, like "combo points" |
| 01:03.50 | A1win | and then he needs a couple of finishers that do some instant effects, consuming the combo points |
| 01:04.36 | A1win | well, in the plans.. haven't actually done anything yet |
| 01:04.42 | A1win | so can change everything if needed =P |
| 01:04.52 | `MindWorX | Maybe something that takes a chunk of the opponents life and gives it to the brood lord? Makes it a damage move, that's worth sacrificing the regen for? |
| 01:05.10 | A1win | hmm right that could work |
| 01:05.20 | A1win | had something like that for the archon before I realized it doesn't really suit him |
| 01:05.34 | `MindWorX | Ofcourse, damage should be balanced out, it shouldn't be as powerful as a pure damage move, but still powerful enough to forfeit the regen |
| 01:05.41 | A1win | mm |
| 01:05.50 | `MindWorX | Alternatively, it could boost the regen insanely for a short duration |
| 01:06.53 | A1win | just wondering if it should be aoe or direct damage drain.. there will be bosses so I guess direct drain would be nice |
| 01:07.01 | A1win | so archon is the aoe class and brood lord is single target |
| 01:07.21 | `MindWorX | Yea, crowd controller and striker |
| 01:07.35 | `MindWorX | Then you need a healer and a tank ;) |
| 01:07.40 | A1win | heh |
| 01:07.52 | A1win | all the classes have self-heals |
| 01:08.03 | A1win | but I have the hybrid as a support class |
| 01:08.12 | A1win | not sure of all of its abilities yet though |
| 01:08.57 | A1win | was going to have stuff like increasing everyone's armor or damage, but then it wouldn't really be balanced for different number of players that well |
| 01:15.21 | A1win | mmh I can't use enemies that can't attack air, since brood lord is flying :P |
| 01:15.56 | A1win | and I probably need to make them priorize the brood lord instead of the broodlings... might be too easy otherwise |
| 01:16.03 | A1win | so the broodlings are just "bullets" |
| 01:16.21 | A1win | and make them uncontrollable |
| 01:40.49 | Twisted_ | Any one have a link to a Nexus wars type map I could open and study? |
| 01:52.10 | JademusSreg | pew pew |
| 01:52.22 | JademusSreg | I dunno if there are any open source tug maps. |
| 01:52.30 | JademusSreg | But it's pretty imple in principle. |
| 01:52.33 | JademusSreg | *simple |
| 01:56.15 | A1win | JademusSreg, I don't suppose you read the idea for the map I've been talking about for hours? =P |
| 02:01.32 | JademusSreg | Sorry, no, I've been eating dinne,r playing with mah girls, and working in photoshop. |
| 02:01.36 | JademusSreg | What's up? |
| 02:01.45 | A1win | yea was just checking if I should summarize it ;3 |
| 02:01.55 | JademusSreg | Please do. =D |
| 02:03.28 | A1win | it didn't start like this but the idea is now kind of similar to a space shooter where the screen scrolls... but it scrolls very slowly, and players move very slowly, not dodging stuff... enemies appear periodically in large outposts/bases etc. with some trash between those |
| 02:04.13 | A1win | players have a few abilities that add different kinds of combo points, up to 5 or so, and each "combo point" gives a different buff... until the player uses a finisher ability that resets the combo points and does something fancy |
| 02:04.47 | A1win | co-op gameplay |
| 02:05.14 | A1win | the point is that you need to pay attention on what enemies are ahead and choose the right kind of buffs against them |
| 02:05.35 | A1win | otherwise you'll take more damage / kill them too slow (and take more damage) |
| 02:06.10 | A1win | I have 3 classes atm but not sure about the abilities yet, and I have a feeling this could still be improved somehow |
| 02:06.52 | A1win | so as nash said the gameplay is "Anti-Tower Offense" |
| 02:07.05 | JademusSreg | So it's a Fatal Fury Beat-em-up or a Galaga-like shooter or it is a Contra/Metal Slug-like shooter or... what? I need a visual image here. =D |
| 02:07.37 | A1win | just SC2 units I think |
| 02:08.29 | A1win | player units atm would be archon, hybrid (the hovering one) and brood lord... need flying/hovering ones so their movement doesn't look stupid when it's slowed down by a lot =P |
| 02:09.08 | A1win | so they are like a moving "wall of fire" that destroys everything on its way (taken it doesn't die itself) |
| 02:09.58 | JademusSreg | What's the perspective? |
| 02:10.51 | A1win | what I had in mind for the archon for example: one ability adds a buff that inreases direct damage by a percentage, other increases splash damage, and one inreases all damage to biological units... and you can stack any of those up to a total of 5... then two finishers, one restores shields based on the number of buffs it consumed, and the other does a targeted aoe attack |
| 02:10.57 | A1win | umm.. dunno, sidescroller? =P |
| 02:11.07 | JademusSreg | Sidescroller sounds neat. |
| 02:11.19 | A1win | with a bit of depth |
| 02:11.25 | A1win | so players can hover in a row |
| 02:11.30 | JademusSreg | Right, like the old school beat-em-ups. |
| 02:11.38 | A1win | mm yea |
| 02:13.25 | A1win | the hybrid is supposed to be a support class that has stacking buffs to inrease everyone's damage or armor by a bit, and one that restores life to itself and inreases shield regeneration rate... one of its finishers would do something like decrease buff ability cooldowns for everyone, so after combat they could recover faster |
| 02:14.01 | A1win | but would have to make everything work so that there can be multiple hybrids as well, and work well with different numbers of players |
| 02:14.33 | A1win | so I was thinking that maybe I should have a different power system for each class.. one with the combo point thing and others with something else |
| 02:15.14 | A1win | cause I haven't managed to come up with any finishers for the brood lord that weren't too similar to the archon's ones =P |
| 02:16.18 | A1win | also, haven't though about the enemies much... |
| 02:16.36 | JademusSreg | I am perplexed that an Archon would fight alongside a hybrid. =D |
| 02:16.41 | A1win | hehe |
| 02:17.06 | A1win | yea could change the units completely |
| 02:17.18 | A1win | those just looked the best for moving very slowly ;D |
| 02:18.01 | A1win | the first idea I had was that players are something insignificant like sheeps... and they get very minor buffs from the abilities they need to spam like crazy |
| 02:18.05 | A1win | kind of a parody gameplay |
| 02:18.10 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 02:18.33 | JademusSreg | In a parody, you can get away with anything, provided youm ake a joke aobut or atl east lampshade it. |
| 02:18.43 | A1win | hehe |
| 02:19.24 | A1win | but the problem with parody gameplay is that it might be funny for a moment but then get extremely annoying/frustrating/not fun |
| 02:19.44 | JademusSreg | Sometimes. Quality humor doesn't. |
| 02:19.46 | A1win | and this could potentially be fun too =P |
| 02:19.51 | A1win | yea dunno |
| 02:19.53 | JademusSreg | For one, it shouldn't be obnoxious. |
| 02:20.35 | A1win | oh right, the addition to the sheep idea was that you build up your attacks for a long period of time, and then you get one enemy and you either kill it with the attacks you were building up or fail horribly |
| 02:21.11 | A1win | of course with some info on what you should be doing :X |
| 02:21.12 | A1win | but meh |
| 02:21.37 | JademusSreg | For examples of obnoxious humor, see: every Chappelle's Show sketch, every MADtv sketch, most SNL sketches since its golden era in the late 70s, early 80s. |
| 02:21.44 | A1win | this could be fun too since it's an "anti TD", and I don't like TDs |
| 02:22.11 | JademusSreg | See also: every attempt at humor on Youtube, most of the jokes on Family Guy, et cetera... |
| 02:22.19 | A1win | :P |
| 02:23.28 | A1win | anyway the core idea is that you build your attacks, then a quick combat where you unleash them, and then it starts all over |
| 02:23.52 | A1win | just needs some interesting way of deciding what kind of an attack to build up |
| 02:26.05 | A1win | the classes and abilities I have now seem a bit dull, not much choices even with 5 different ability buttons |
| 02:31.08 | A1win | in other words I don't really have anything yet =P |
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| 02:31.52 | A1win | I wonder how this seemed like an awesome idea like a couple of hours ago |
| 02:33.29 | Mexa | ~seen Mexa |
| 02:33.31 | purl | mexa is currently on #sc2mapster (1m 42s). Has said a total of 122 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen Mexa'. |
| 02:33.35 | JademusSreg | The devil is in the details. Also, presumably, in the Earth's mantel. |
| 02:33.39 | Mexa | bleh |
| 02:33.43 | JademusSreg | Mantle. |
| 02:33.46 | JademusSreg | That we go,. |
| 02:33.51 | Mexa | ~say ~seen Mexa_ |
| 02:33.51 | purl | ~seen Mexa_ |
| 02:34.07 | Mexa | Alright, someone else say that please.. |
| 02:34.22 | A1win | huh, why can't you say it yourself? :e |
| 02:34.40 | Mexa | oh right, I got confused since ~seen Mexa didn't work |
| 02:34.46 | A1win | hehe |
| 02:34.47 | Mexa | But the obvious fact struck me now. |
| 02:34.55 | Mexa | ~seen Mexa_ |
| 02:34.55 | purl | mexa_ <~MexaEU@80.78.216.115> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 7h 19m 58s ago, saying: 'and brb'. |
| 02:35.10 | Mexa | humph |
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| 02:37.40 | Mexa | So it seems my computer went nuts about 5-6hours ago, even though it was powered on when I woke up |
| 02:37.53 | JademusSreg | ?? |
| 02:38.11 | Mexa | And apparantly, black screen, with no way to command it, wireless off, harddrive completely silent |
| 02:38.32 | JademusSreg | I'veh ad stuff like that happen before. |
| 02:38.33 | Mexa | And I will never find out why... jej |
| 02:38.44 | JademusSreg | Seems to happen after the power goes out. |
| 02:39.10 | Mexa | Well, how can it be on then :o |
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| 02:39.14 | Mexa | It's a laptop |
| 02:39.21 | Mexa | (no battery) |
| 02:39.32 | Mexa | it wouldn't turn itself on |
| 02:40.06 | Mexa | Anyways, it doesn't seem like it's a power outtake |
| 02:47.44 | A1win | aah now I remember what the original idea of the buff stacking was =P the "finishers" weren't supposed to be something to aim for, they were supposed to be reset buttons when you realize that omg I've been stacking the wrong buff, quickly do something little useful with them and start stacking the right one |
| 02:48.17 | A1win | so the buff stacks are consumed when they are used, like one buff gives you extra damage on your next attack, one absorbs damage, etc. |
| 02:48.20 | A1win | and is consumed in the process |
| 02:48.43 | A1win | so you build up your buffs, then combat begins and they are quickly consumed as you attack the enemies and the enemies attack you |
| 02:50.43 | A1win | but dunno about the reset abilities then, it'd be weird to design an ability "in case the player makes a mistake" |
| 02:51.30 | A1win | probably won't even need a total limit for the buffs, so there's no harm in stacking the wrong ones |
| 02:51.48 | A1win | and can add some abilities that are just on cooldown and not depending on the buffs |
| 02:53.02 | A1win | now it also isn't a copy of WoW's rogue class =p |
| 02:53.20 | Apple4 | Does Camera - Player 1 moves the camera for Any Reason |
| 02:53.22 | Apple4 | Cause Lag |
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| 02:53.49 | A1win | well... it can only trigger once every 1/32 seconds |
| 02:54.02 | Apple4 | its a trigger event that literatly runs the trigger every single pixel the camera runs across |
| 02:54.12 | A1win | naw |
| 02:54.19 | Apple4 | ok |
| 02:54.32 | Apple4 | so its the same as a 0.0 periodic event that only runs when the camera is moving |
| 02:54.35 | Apple4 | nice |
| 02:54.42 | timecat | supson |
| 02:54.45 | A1win | I think so |
| 02:54.47 | A1win | not sure though |
| 02:54.55 | A1win | events are only handled once every 1/32 seconds... |
| 02:55.00 | Apple4 | but also |
| 02:55.12 | A1win | but would it have to handle it multiple times if the camera moved more D: |
| 02:55.15 | Apple4 | the game has a lagged reaction to the players camera pitch and yaw |
| 02:55.17 | A1win | I guess not... would be stupid |
| 02:55.31 | A1win | mmh dunno |
| 02:55.33 | Apple4 | so would only make sense that this trigger event would be delayed as well? |
| 02:55.44 | Apple4 | il test it |
| 02:57.05 | JademusSreg | It can only trigger at 1/16 game second periods. |
| 02:57.14 | JademusSreg | That's a limitation of the event manager. |
| 02:57.22 | A1win | oh right the 1/32 was with the waits |
| 02:57.26 | JademusSreg | Yeah. =D |
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| 02:59.26 | mapsterman | sup |
| 02:59.32 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 03:00.04 | Mexa | Jademus, I don't think it only is a limitation of the event manager, but rather a limitation of fixedpoint values. |
| 03:00.17 | Apple4 | but that doesnt mean |
| 03:00.25 | JademusSreg | Interesting suggestion. |
| 03:00.42 | Apple4 | that if you run your screen across 100 pixels in 1/16 of a second that it wont run the event 100 times |
| 03:00.51 | Apple4 | or no |
| 03:01.01 | Apple4 | ? |
| 03:01.07 | A1win | there's no such thing as a pixel in the engine |
| 03:01.14 | Apple4 | its a metaphor |
| 03:01.17 | A1win | hehe |
| 03:01.28 | Apple4 | the game does have a grid system for mouse position |
| 03:01.33 | Apple4 | and my camera is set to mouse relative |
| 03:01.42 | JademusSreg | But since that hypothesis is defeasible, only a hypothesis with stronger evidence and simpler explanation could render it useless. =D |
| 03:01.56 | JademusSreg | *isn't |
| 03:02.02 | JademusSreg | Isn't defeasible |
| 03:02.03 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 03:02.04 | Mexa | ^^ |
| 03:02.20 | A1win | well obviously if you move your camera for 1 units in 1/16 seconds, it won't run the event 1000 times since the camera moved from 0.001 to 0.002 to 0.003 etc. ;p |
| 03:02.41 | Apple4 | ok im testing it |
| 03:02.43 | Apple4 | it doesnt |
| 03:03.02 | A1win | it probably just tests every 1/16 seconds if the camera has moved or not |
| 03:03.30 | A1win | ...or something |
| 03:03.46 | A1win | I'm just guessing =p and it's 6 am.. so don't trust anything I say |
| 03:03.50 | Apple4 | the event is delayed just like getting pitch and yaw |
| 03:03.55 | Apple4 | same as pitch and yaw |
| 03:04.37 | mapsterman | anyone aver had any troubles with custom actions within custom actions within custom action? |
| 03:04.53 | JademusSreg | I don't use GUI, so no. =D |
| 03:05.16 | Apple4 | imma show off my UI |
| 03:05.16 | Apple4 | http://i.imgur.com/lRXXM.jpg |
| 03:05.21 | A1win | mapsterman, what kind of troubles |
| 03:05.25 | mapsterman | why does it matter |
| 03:05.27 | JademusSreg | Nice work Apple. |
| 03:05.44 | mapsterman | like it wont execute every time |
| 03:05.46 | A1win | mapsterman, because "any" is very relative |
| 03:05.49 | JademusSreg | How does it look in different resolutions? |
| 03:05.55 | Apple4 | perfect |
| 03:06.00 | mapsterman | sometimes it will randomly skip some parts |
| 03:06.01 | JademusSreg | Excellent. |
| 03:06.21 | A1win | mapsterman, don't think it would do something like that, there must be a reason why those parts aren't working |
| 03:06.25 | JademusSreg | Too bad SC2 sucks for that kind of gameplay, but sexy good looking UI might make it bearabler. |
| 03:06.28 | JademusSreg | (bearable |
| 03:06.40 | mapsterman | mmmm ok i guess ill keep looking for a user error |
| 03:06.47 | Apple4 | yeah i dont even care if it works or not anymore |
| 03:06.52 | Apple4 | having fun making this |
| 03:06.56 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 03:07.10 | JademusSreg | That's what fucking matters anyway. =D |
| 03:07.19 | A1win | just post screenshots and videos and hype it like hell |
| 03:07.25 | A1win | :e |
| 03:07.25 | Apple4 | origonal plan for this was a tiny map to learn from |
| 03:07.27 | JademusSreg | Too many people crying on the forums, haha. |
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| 03:08.06 | Apple4 | normally my projects are ones that would take like a years work to finish, but i start working on them anyways cuz Im just looking at a picture in mah head |
| 03:09.20 | Mexa | http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/08/04/facebook-captcha-fail/ |
| 03:10.14 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 03:12.07 | mapsterman | anyone got an idea how to make default chat to [all] whilst keeping it possible for parties to join the map |
| 03:12.20 | A1win | nope... and I have tried x\ |
| 03:12.23 | A1win | probably can't |
| 03:12.48 | A1win | or what do you mean by parties |
| 03:12.53 | A1win | so that they have allied chat? |
| 03:13.23 | mapsterman | no |
| 03:13.25 | mapsterman | like |
| 03:13.48 | mapsterman | if you join a game that has all players on different teams in lobby it makes it impossible for people in a party to join |
| 03:13.58 | mapsterman | it says not enough slots abvaillable |
| 03:14.07 | A1win | oh |
| 03:14.14 | mapsterman | but its the only way I found to make default chat to all players |
| 03:14.35 | mapsterman | cuz doing shift enter all the time gets annoying as hell |
| 03:14.59 | A1win | umm |
| 03:15.38 | A1win | I thought all players are hostile towards each other no matter what team they are in in the lobby? unless you run the melee triggers |
| 03:16.09 | A1win | but if they aren't, just turn their alliances off with triggers |
| 03:16.16 | A1win | and they won't have allied chat |
| 03:16.28 | A1win | but they'll be enemies, or neutral |
| 03:17.30 | A1win | it's also possible to turn off the "allied chat" alliance aspect, but if you do that, the players will still have the Allied chat as default even if they don't have anyone with allied chat enabled with them >.< |
| 03:17.41 | A1win | so it sucks even more =p |
| 03:18.06 | Agouti | It's trivial to have everyone start on team 1 then set up the alliances with triggers |
| 03:18.23 | A1win | mm |
| 03:18.56 | mapsterman | went game starts |
| 03:18.59 | timecat | i guess my college has a college starleague group |
| 03:19.02 | mapsterman | I put them all threat to each other |
| 03:19.16 | timecat | everyone is diamond or lower tho :O |
| 03:19.16 | mapsterman | but it doesnt make the chaty to all the default |
| 03:19.44 | A1win | it should if the player doesn't have anyone in his alliance |
| 03:20.11 | mapsterman | k but turning off the allied chat doesnt just make them not see the chat rather than make [all] the default? |
| 03:20.14 | A1win | make players in (All players) treat each other as Enemy |
| 03:20.22 | A1win | is the trigger action |
| 03:20.30 | A1win | Set Alliance for Player Group or something like that |
| 03:20.38 | mapsterman | ohh |
| 03:20.45 | mapsterman | i made all players in active players |
| 03:20.48 | A1win | don't use the turn off allied chat thing |
| 03:20.50 | mapsterman | maybe thats the problem? |
| 03:20.52 | A1win | it just makes things worse |
| 03:20.57 | A1win | well |
| 03:21.01 | A1win | shouldn't matter |
| 03:21.06 | mapsterman | cuz theres player 0 and 15 |
| 03:21.08 | mapsterman | i guess |
| 03:21.11 | Apple4 | is there a way to disable Insert and Delete camera movement |
| 03:21.17 | A1win | maybe it bugs if they already were allied when the map started |
| 03:21.26 | A1win | Apple4, yeah |
| 03:21.36 | A1win | in camera object data settings |
| 03:21.42 | A1win | you can define the angles |
| 03:21.51 | A1win | so just set them to 0 and it won't turn |
| 03:22.30 | A1win | mapsterman, try having all players in team 1 when the map starts |
| 03:22.38 | mapsterman | yea i did that |
| 03:22.56 | A1win | and you're not running any of the melee trigger actions? |
| 03:23.08 | A1win | or anything else that might tamper with the alliances |
| 03:24.52 | A1win | also look at the message log in game and see if you have any players in your alliance |
| 03:25.55 | A1win | mmh I think I want some crowd control abilities for the sidescroller thing... so that the players can actually co-operate and not just spam their own abilities |
| 03:26.08 | A1win | one player holds an enemy still and another shoots it, etc. |
| 03:26.21 | Apple4 | >> |
| 03:27.06 | Apple4 | i cant find the values |
| 03:27.12 | A1win | hmmh |
| 03:27.25 | A1win | are you looking in data editor? |
| 03:27.50 | Apple4 | yeah |
| 03:27.56 | Apple4 | in camera, my default camera |
| 03:28.04 | A1win | I'll take a look... |
| 03:28.23 | A1win | can't remember but I probably will when I see it |
| 03:29.00 | A1win | umm should be just Rotation Left and Rotation Right |
| 03:29.10 | A1win | default to -45 and 45 |
| 03:29.28 | Apple4 | i tryed that already |
| 03:29.31 | Apple4 | didnt do anything |
| 03:29.42 | A1win | check your texture set |
| 03:29.50 | A1win | some don't use the Default Camera as their default camera |
| 03:29.55 | Apple4 | it is |
| 03:29.58 | A1win | oh |
| 03:30.19 | Apple4 | il try again |
| 03:30.43 | A1win | well those should be it, I can't think of anything else D: |
| 03:30.44 | mapsterman | k tks alw1n |
| 03:31.36 | A1win | not sure what Rotate Scale and Rotation Increment do |
| 03:31.47 | Apple4 | no those dont do it |
| 03:32.04 | A1win | are you sure you are editing the right camera? |
| 03:32.09 | Apple4 | yes lol |
| 03:32.12 | A1win | =p |
| 03:32.16 | Apple4 | try it |
| 03:32.28 | Apple4 | set them to 0 and test Ins and Del |
| 03:32.31 | Apple4 | ;p |
| 03:33.07 | A1win | works for me |
| 03:33.41 | A1win | I mean, setting them to 0 stopped it from rotating camera |
| 03:34.03 | A1win | what texture set do you use? |
| 03:34.20 | Apple4 | belshir |
| 03:34.40 | Apple4 | it uses this camera, i have this camera edited in many ways |
| 03:34.44 | Apple4 | >> |
| 03:34.45 | A1win | oh |
| 03:35.07 | A1win | but eh |
| 03:35.12 | A1win | I just changed them and it worked |
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| 03:35.29 | Apple4 | ..... |
| 03:35.32 | A1win | did you try both ins and del? |
| 03:35.34 | Apple4 | why doesnt it work for meee |
| 03:35.43 | A1win | I don't have insert on this keyboard =P |
| 03:35.49 | A1win | just a big del |
| 03:36.07 | A1win | was wondering if the other one should be set to like.. 360 or something |
| 03:36.10 | A1win | but meh dunno |
| 03:36.14 | Apple4 | 0 is probably |
| 03:36.19 | Apple4 | um |
| 03:36.37 | Apple4 | try setting your default camera to some other angle |
| 03:36.43 | Apple4 | then pressing them when they are 0 |
| 03:36.51 | Apple4 | maybe it spins them anyways |
| 03:36.51 | A1win | other angle? |
| 03:36.53 | Apple4 | >> |
| 03:37.00 | A1win | with triggers or what? |
| 03:37.01 | Apple4 | awfjknjsbgjsvb anadjknwkajnd |
| 03:37.10 | Apple4 | nvm just doesnt work for me |
| 03:37.13 | Apple4 | f it |
| 03:37.15 | A1win | :P |
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| 03:42.56 | A1win | pff sleep time |
| 04:38.50 | timecat | i like how we have 46 people in here and about 36 of them are lurkers |
| 04:38.59 | timecat | someone who is a lurker say something |
| 04:44.51 | Mexa | I'm all lurkfree |
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| 04:47.24 | Keyeszx | I was blocked by some guy on youtube for stating the obvious |
| 04:47.42 | Keyeszx | how should I feel? |
| 04:49.54 | timecat | depends |
| 04:49.55 | timecat | what did you say |
| 04:50.20 | Keyeszx | Well it was a video of a monster hunter ripoff. I stated it was a ripoff the guy says at least it's not a WoW clone |
| 04:50.55 | Keyeszx | then I say WoW was never original so don't use WoW clone and stated how the game was a monster hunter ripoff |
| 04:51.01 | timecat | then you should feel like a dick |
| 04:51.20 | Keyeszx | woah slow down it was all civil |
| 04:51.21 | timecat | sry for stating the obvious |
| 04:51.30 | timecat | :D |
| 04:51.44 | Keyeszx | the guy just blocked me for saying phantasy star universe story was bad |
| 04:52.42 | Keyeszx | btw does anyone play MMOs for story? besides the roleplayers? |
| 04:52.55 | timecat | i played rift for the gameplay leading to lvl 50 |
| 04:53.18 | timecat | then i tried to world pvp but the defiants on my server were dumb as fuck |
| 04:53.28 | timecat | and instead of working together and getting better they just sat arond and complained |
| 04:53.37 | timecat | "the guardians keep gaaaaaanking me" |
| 04:53.38 | Keyeszx | sounds like a waste of time |
| 04:53.43 | Keyeszx | I never played rift so ya |
| 04:53.45 | timecat | nah it was fun levling to 50 |
| 04:53.54 | Keyeszx | i meant the pvp part |
| 04:53.58 | timecat | oh yea |
| 04:54.01 | timecat | it was pretty dumb |
| 04:54.13 | timecat | and people acted like they were more skilled cause they had better gear |
| 04:54.16 | timecat | thats what really got me |
| 04:54.20 | timecat | especially after playing sc2 |
| 04:54.34 | Keyeszx | that's what I dislike about RPGs or MMOs generally |
| 04:54.41 | Keyeszx | it's usually best stats over actual skill |
| 04:55.03 | timecat | at least pvp in diablo 2 had some skill |
| 04:55.06 | Keyeszx | that's why I've actually been playing this f2p mmo called dragon nest |
| 04:55.16 | Keyeszx | it's an action style mmo |
| 04:55.23 | timecat | hmm |
| 04:55.27 | Keyeszx | so I think it might actually require a bit more skill |
| 04:55.35 | timecat | probably |
| 04:55.45 | timecat | thats one thing i don't like about mmos, the combat is so boring |
| 04:55.57 | Keyeszx | generally in an mmo if something uses a charge spell you can't do anything |
| 04:55.57 | timecat | i greatly prefer diablo2 style combat |
| 04:56.10 | Keyeszx | but in this you can actually dodge the attack |
| 04:56.37 | Keyeszx | small things like that make it a lot more fun |
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| 05:07.10 | ________________ | herro? |
| 05:07.32 | ________________ | For those who are awake: Is there a way to count the number of shots fired from a unit's weapon? |
| 05:08.34 | timecat | yea |
| 05:08.40 | ________________ | orly? |
| 05:08.42 | ________________ | hao |
| 05:08.46 | timecat | make a dummy effect that triggers every time the weapon is fired |
| 05:08.57 | timecat | the use a trigger to increment a variable every time that effect triggers |
| 05:09.10 | ________________ | oh duh |
| 05:09.18 | ________________ | i can stack a behavior for my purposes... |
| 05:09.20 | timecat | haven't tried it tho, but it'll prolly work |
| 05:09.26 | ________________ | ive gotten lazy... this IRC is bad for me |
| 05:09.29 | ________________ | i dont even think anymore |
| 05:09.31 | timecat | lol i know what you mean |
| 05:09.41 | ________________ | *slaps hands* BAD RICK BAD! |
| 05:10.04 | ________________ | ty timecat |
| 05:10.39 | timecat | lol np |
| 05:19.38 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7djo7Xu9JU She does look like Paris Hilton, doesn't she? |
| 05:19.46 | Mexa | Except that she can sing. |
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| 05:56.09 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
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| 05:59.20 | Mexa | And I thought I was the only one lurkfree |
| 05:59.34 | Mexa | Herp à la derp. |
| 06:02.12 | JademusSreg | I was laughing at : [01:09:34] <________________> ive gotten lazy... this IRC is bad for me [01:09:37] <________________> i dont even think anymore |
| 06:10.47 | timecat | you know what would be cool |
| 06:10.57 | timecat | is if blizz created a side ladder for sc2:bw |
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| 06:52.10 | timecat | is it possible to tint a button? |
| 06:55.05 | ________________ | custom UI? o.o |
| 06:55.20 | timecat | nah just like a command card button |
| 06:55.47 | timecat | you know how there's a greyscale and a color style for almost every button? |
| 06:56.21 | ________________ | i think u'd have to import a recolored version |
| 06:57.04 | timecat | hmm i might just do that |
| 06:57.17 | timecat | i have an awesome idea for one of the buttons |
| 06:57.22 | timecat | but it only works if its red |
| 06:57.44 | ________________ | tint by race / only available for zerg? |
| 06:57.48 | ________________ | or is zerg not red |
| 06:57.52 | ________________ | i dont actually remember |
| 06:57.53 | ________________ | lol |
| 06:58.03 | ________________ | otherwise importing works |
| 06:58.12 | ________________ | ~8ball are zerg buttons red? |
| 06:58.13 | purl | I'm not sure. |
| 06:58.15 | ________________ | damn |
| 07:04.09 | Helral|Afk | zerg are red/brown like |
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| 07:15.55 | timecat | sweet |
| 07:16.11 | timecat | i totally made it red in photoshop and imported it backi n |
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| 07:52.16 | ________________ | wooo :) |
| 07:52.32 | ________________ | im just 30 minutes late @ saying |
| 07:52.34 | ________________ | ~yay |
| 07:52.34 | purl | Yipee! |
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| 08:34.59 | Stewox | mexa |
| 08:35.11 | Stewox | what did you said about some patch notes |
| 08:35.15 | Beier | Good morning |
| 08:35.16 | Stewox | memory something ? |
| 08:35.17 | Mexa | I don't know |
| 08:35.19 | timecat | morning? |
| 08:35.20 | Stewox | morning |
| 08:35.24 | timecat | i guess it technically is |
| 08:35.27 | Stewox | 10:35 am :) |
| 08:35.42 | Stewox | how can't you know |
| 08:35.52 | Stewox | you said it a day ago |
| 08:36.10 | Stewox | i can't see anything in 1.3.5 |
| 08:36.15 | Stewox | maybe 1.3.6 ? |
| 08:37.07 | Stewox | beier .... you don't mind if i continue on that C# project .... i've done a lot of progress my self |
| 08:37.24 | Beier | no, not at all ;) |
| 08:37.42 | Stewox | one problem ... all the chat you said was lost since my IRC didn't keep my history |
| 08:37.57 | Stewox | and the commands for killing process , and timer stuff i forgot |
| 08:38.27 | Stewox | IRC will now keep my history i've set proper settings |
| 08:39.05 | Stewox | you also said in a statement what TIMER is supposed to do ... update the progress bar , check limits , .... and the else i forgot |
| 08:39.35 | Stewox | ah typo there, i was going to say "if we continute ..." |
| 08:39.53 | Beier | well, what you want the program to do.. you talked about automatically killing processes |
| 08:40.16 | Stewox | i've got help from many people around here .... but you're the only one who actually knows real C# coding |
| 08:40.39 | Stewox | just a second i open up VS |
| 08:40.40 | timecat | "real"? |
| 08:40.57 | ________________ | ~real |
| 08:40.57 | purl | JCommons is the _real_ apt! |
| 08:41.03 | Beier | yeah.. all you other people are just faking it ;) |
| 08:41.03 | ________________ | ~what is real |
| 08:41.03 | purl | JCommons is the _real_ apt! |
| 08:42.28 | Stewox | making a screenshot of the UI now ... |
| 08:42.39 | ________________ | ~perl |
| 08:42.39 | purl | i heard perl is at http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/Perl or at http://www.perl.com, or a knitting stitch, or the Pathologically Eclectic rubbish Lister, or that other "P" language |
| 08:42.55 | ________________ | ~python |
| 08:42.55 | purl | somebody said python was Available at http://www.python.org Python is an interpreted, interactive, object-oriented programming language. It is often compared to Tcl, Perl, Scheme or Java. |
| 08:43.58 | ________________ | ~scheme |
| 08:43.58 | purl | i guess scheme is http://www.schemers.org |
| 08:44.02 | ________________ | boo |
| 08:44.05 | ________________ | boring explanation |
| 08:44.09 | ________________ | ~tcl |
| 08:44.09 | purl | hmm... tcl is at http://www.scriptics.com/ or in feed "http://handhelds.org/feeds/tcl" |
| 08:44.14 | ________________ | also boring |
| 08:44.34 | ________________ | ~azk |
| 08:44.37 | Stewox | http://www.shrani.si/?2p/13h/MxMgeSk/commitchargeproject4.jpg |
| 08:44.44 | ________________ | ~stewox |
| 08:44.44 | purl | [stewox] an annoying brat. |
| 08:44.47 | ________________ | hahaha |
| 08:44.59 | ________________ | ic ic |
| 08:45.17 | azk | ________________: |
| 08:46.33 | ________________ | ~azk |
| 08:46.33 | purl | somebody said azk was the lamest lame-o ever to meet lame-dom. One word from him and you might catch his lameness, watch out! |
| 08:46.37 | azk | infobot huh |
| 08:46.38 | ________________ | o no! |
| 08:46.47 | azk | and it no likes me |
| 08:46.50 | azk | :S |
| 08:46.56 | ________________ | ~purl |
| 08:46.56 | purl | somebody said purl was a far prettier chatbot than you. |
| 08:47.00 | ________________ | chatbot |
| 08:47.07 | ________________ | and a pretty 1 |
| 08:47.07 | azk | ~derp |
| 08:47.07 | purl | herp |
| 08:47.11 | ________________ | ~herp |
| 08:47.11 | purl | derp |
| 08:47.47 | ________________ | ~smart |
| 08:47.47 | purl | well, smart is the opposite of stupid, or the opposite of straightforward and polite, or what I definitely am, or "Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology" used by some hard drive manufacturers to detect imminent drive failure |
| 08:48.28 | Mexa | [10:40] <Stewox> i've got help from many people around here .... but you're the only one who actually knows real C# coding -Real huh |
| 08:48.40 | timecat | ~purl |
| 08:48.40 | purl | [purl] a far prettier chatbot than you. |
| 08:48.43 | Stewox | :p |
| 08:48.50 | timecat | ~timecat |
| 08:48.50 | purl | you are probably a validator effect |
| 08:48.53 | ________________ | ~8ball is Stewox making any sense? |
| 08:48.53 | purl | Absolutely. |
| 08:48.56 | timecat | lmao |
| 08:48.58 | ________________ | damn |
| 08:49.05 | Stewox | he just spit the commands out faster than i could ask ... he knew exactly what i needed ;) |
| 08:49.13 | ________________ | *walks away in sadness* |
| 08:49.29 | Mexa | Call it magic |
| 08:49.57 | Mexa | But apparantly the only real C# coder since he happened to know what you needed :> |
| 08:50.13 | ________________ | apparently |
| 08:50.20 | ________________ | ~apparently |
| 08:50.20 | purl | WELL _APPARENTLY_! |
| 08:50.29 | ________________ | ~duh |
| 08:50.29 | purl | duh is probably an exclamation showing absence of common knowledge |
| 08:50.30 | azk | .NET mumbo jumbo |
| 08:50.40 | ________________ | ~.NET mumbo jumbo |
| 08:51.00 | azk | the dot breaks it :p |
| 08:51.12 | azk | ~.derp |
| 08:51.23 | azk | ~derp. |
| 08:51.24 | purl | herp |
| 08:51.31 | azk | ~der.p |
| 08:51.40 | ________________ | ~mumbo jumbo |
| 08:51.40 | purl | it has been said that mumbo jumbo is mumbo, perhaps.. JUMBO, perhaps not! |
| 09:11.21 | ________________ | fg |
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| 10:15.27 | Mexa | so... |
| 10:24.26 | ________________ | I have 1 unit that creates turrets... How do I make it so that if this unit creates X turrets one will die before the new one spawns |
| 10:24.39 | ________________ | i tried adding/removing behaviors from the unit making the turrets |
| 10:24.46 | ________________ | its not workin out 2 well |
| 10:25.30 | ________________ | adding/removing behaviors to keep count of how many of this unit's turrets are on the field* |
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| 10:40.53 | Mexa | Nashadun! |
| 10:44.35 | ________________ | ~nashadun |
| 10:44.42 | ________________ | o.o |
| 10:44.45 | ________________ | ~o.o |
| 10:46.00 | Mexa | ~derp |
| 10:46.00 | purl | herp |
| 10:46.05 | Mexa | ~herp |
| 10:46.05 | purl | derp |
| 10:46.09 | ________________ | ~herpderp |
| 10:46.11 | ________________ | booo |
| 10:46.11 | Mexa | ~slerp |
| 10:46.14 | ________________ | ~herp derp |
| 10:46.15 | Mexa | ~lerp |
| 10:46.21 | ________________ | ~sleep |
| 10:46.21 | purl | rumour has it, sleep is overrated, and a poor substitute for caffeine. |
| 10:46.21 | Mexa | ~purl |
| 10:46.21 | purl | somebody said purl was a far prettier chatbot than you. |
| 10:46.29 | ________________ | hahaha |
| 10:47.02 | Mexa | ñash|327 |
| 10:47.06 | Mexa | -.-' |
| 10:47.14 | Mexa | ~nash|327 |
| 10:47.22 | Mexa | ãw |
| 10:47.35 | Mexa | autokeyshit... |
| 10:51.12 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 10:51.47 | Nash|327 | I feel dizzy |
| 10:55.35 | Mexa | Bad sleep? |
| 11:02.49 | tampa1adam | where in data would hiding the supply frame be? |
| 11:03.04 | tampa1adam | tried gemplay data and ui data.. |
| 11:03.27 | tampa1adam | I know I can hide it with triggers |
| 11:08.22 | ________________ | ~8ball is it possible to hide the supply frame via data? |
| 11:08.22 | purl | No. |
| 11:09.08 | tampa1adam | thx purl |
| 11:09.10 | tampa1adam | ;) |
| 11:10.09 | ________________ | PURL B NICE |
| 11:10.11 | ________________ | ~SAY NP |
| 11:10.11 | purl | NP |
| 11:10.15 | ________________ | good girl |
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| 11:18.02 | Mexa | good thing |
| 11:19.04 | ________________ | hrm any reason y my triggered add behavior from player action isnt working? o.o |
| 11:19.17 | ________________ | the action its paired with works fine |
| 11:54.17 | Mexa | D: there's an ambulans outside on the yard |
| 11:54.24 | Mexa | *ambulance |
| 11:54.47 | Nash|327 | then hide it with triggers D_D |
| 11:54.52 | ________________ | lol? |
| 11:57.27 | Nash|327 | some people are allergic to triggers D_D |
| 12:02.45 | tampa1adam | Oh i love me some triggers |
| 12:02.54 | ________________ | thats actually a good observation |
| 12:03.01 | ________________ | since SC II came out triggers have become a bad word |
| 12:03.10 | Zanryu | triggers are cool, but with your description nobody could help you |
| 12:03.18 | ________________ | every1 wants to do everything in data bcuz triggers will 'laag the map' |
| 12:03.43 | ________________ | zanryu u talkn 2 me? |
| 12:04.02 | Zanryu | yep |
| 12:04.17 | tampa1adam | problem with hiding it in triggers is if u buy something it comes back |
| 12:04.25 | tampa1adam | so u have to trigger that, then hide... |
| 12:04.34 | Nash|327 | buy something? |
| 12:04.34 | ________________ | what more is there to add to the description... its a simple 1 line action add behavior trigger |
| 12:04.41 | tampa1adam | train |
| 12:04.44 | Nash|327 | ah |
| 12:04.46 | Zanryu | it works in my map |
| 12:04.53 | tampa1adam | like if u make a worker, it changes supply, and thus shows it |
| 12:04.57 | Zanryu | so dunno what you could made wrong |
| 12:05.05 | ________________ | not in mine.. which is why it seems weird |
| 12:05.10 | ________________ | ya exactly my point |
| 12:05.11 | Nash|327 | why do you need to hide supply if it's actually used :G |
| 12:05.20 | ________________ | it has another action in line with it that is triggering for sure |
| 12:05.26 | Zanryu | what doesn't exactly work? |
| 12:05.26 | ________________ | but the behavior 1, nop |
| 12:05.30 | Zanryu | that you can see it? |
| 12:05.32 | ________________ | the behavior isnt applied |
| 12:05.32 | Nash|327 | remove supply costs |
| 12:05.55 | ________________ | tried changing the behavior thats applied to something random |
| 12:05.59 | ________________ | still no behavior |
| 12:06.08 | Nash|327 | or make a layout file just to hide supply frame stuff |
| 12:06.11 | Zanryu | have you activated that the behaviour won't hide itself? |
| 12:06.14 | ________________ | so i figured i was missing something |
| 12:06.16 | Zanryu | just for testing of course |
| 12:06.25 | ________________ | ya hidden is uncheceked |
| 12:06.27 | ________________ | unchecked* |
| 12:06.59 | Zanryu | maximum number of stacks? |
| 12:07.15 | ________________ | 1 |
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| 12:07.22 | Ashamed | Good morning |
| 12:07.25 | ________________ | morning |
| 12:07.30 | ________________ | ~good morning |
| 12:07.30 | purl | Good morning, good! Have a cookie... oh no! The cookie jar is dry! |
| 12:07.45 | Ashamed | who is _________________? |
| 12:07.56 | Zanryu | number of stacks adding through the trigger action? (or better say what is written in your action) |
| 12:08.06 | Ashamed | nick _______ |
| 12:08.08 | Ashamed | now i am lil _____ |
| 12:08.14 | Ashamed | oh no i did it wrong >< |
| 12:08.17 | ________________ | 1 |
| 12:08.22 | ______ | :) |
| 12:08.27 | Nash|327 | a sophist |
| 12:08.28 | ________________ | o.o |
| 12:08.31 | ________________ | ive been copied |
| 12:08.34 | Nash|327 | and dumbass ;G |
| 12:08.35 | ______ | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:08.43 | ________________ | mini me |
| 12:08.51 | ________________ | lol |
| 12:08.55 | ___ | :( |
| 12:08.58 | ___ | lol |
| 12:09.04 | ________________ | lol |
| 12:09.07 | ________________ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:09.16 | Ashamed | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:10.04 | Ashamed | but who is thou? |
| 12:10.23 | tampa1adam | we call him whiteout |
| 12:10.51 | Ashamed | i am here everday and never seen mr. whiteout >< |
| 12:10.56 | ________________ | anymore ideas zanryu? |
| 12:10.57 | Ashamed | but i guess i am noton this early usally |
| 12:11.12 | Zanryu | hard to tell without seeing |
| 12:11.14 | ________________ | lol im here a lot |
| 12:11.16 | ________________ | mmk sec |
| 12:11.30 | Ashamed | hmmmmmmmmm strange |
| 12:11.38 | Ashamed | you must be from EU |
| 12:11.59 | ________________ | lol not even close |
| 12:12.08 | Ashamed | where? |
| 12:12.12 | ________________ | US |
| 12:12.16 | Ashamed | wow early riser? |
| 12:12.19 | ________________ | nop |
| 12:12.22 | ________________ | havnt slept yet |
| 12:12.25 | Zanryu | sea? |
| 12:12.28 | Ashamed | thats strange that i have not seen you before. |
| 12:12.42 | ________________ | sec zanryu |
| 12:12.42 | Zanryu | i should read... |
| 12:12.54 | Ashamed | 6:00 AM right now >< |
| 12:13.00 | ________________ | 5 here |
| 12:13.06 | ________________ | http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/4935/1111fc.png |
| 12:13.06 | ________________ | there |
| 12:13.08 | Ashamed | on the west coast |
| 12:13.25 | ________________ | so, i see the model switch when it triggers |
| 12:13.27 | Zanryu | lol you noob |
| 12:13.30 | Zanryu | ^^ |
| 12:13.32 | Zanryu | triggering unit |
| 12:13.34 | Zanryu | not created |
| 12:13.40 | ________________ | no, YOU noob |
| 12:13.46 | Zanryu | created unit only works after creating a unit |
| 12:13.47 | ________________ | for this situation triggering unit cant be used |
| 12:13.50 | ________________ | no |
| 12:13.55 | Zanryu | a lol |
| 12:13.57 | ________________ | use the unit created event |
| 12:14.01 | ________________ | and read the descrip |
| 12:14.02 | Zanryu | now i see it |
| 12:14.05 | ________________ | ty |
| 12:14.05 | Zanryu | yeah |
| 12:14.18 | Zanryu | 14:00 is too early for me <.< |
| 12:14.19 | ________________ | and like i said |
| 12:14.26 | ________________ | all other actions work perfectly |
| 12:14.35 | ________________ | just the behavior 1 is acting funny |
| 12:14.41 | Ashamed | 4 PM is too early... lol |
| 12:14.45 | ________________ | haha |
| 12:14.49 | ________________ | loooooool |
| 12:14.53 | Ashamed | its not too early to DRINK |
| 12:14.56 | Ashamed | Go DRINK |
| 12:14.59 | ________________ | ~drunk |
| 12:15.00 | purl | yay! |
| 12:15.02 | ________________ | haha |
| 12:15.11 | Nash|327 | it's always after 6 somewhere D_D |
| 12:15.11 | ________________ | ~beer |
| 12:15.11 | purl | ACTION has disconnected (Read error: 99 (Connection reset by beer)) |
| 12:15.16 | ________________ | haha |
| 12:15.22 | Zanryu | lölz |
| 12:15.23 | Ashamed | i like 5 better myself Nash |
| 12:15.31 | Ashamed | Its always after 5 -.- somewhere too |
| 12:15.35 | ________________ | so u got any clue zanryu? |
| 12:15.38 | Nash|327 | alcoholic |
| 12:15.43 | ________________ | ~alcoholic |
| 12:15.44 | purl | alcoholic is probably tux as far as i can tell |
| 12:15.48 | Nash|327 | you drink at 5 D: |
| 12:15.50 | Ashamed | i am not though lol |
| 12:15.52 | ________________ | ~alcohol |
| 12:15.52 | purl | from memory, alcohol is the answer to most of lifes problems.., or a good excuse to alias rm='rm -i', or a cause of "rm -rf . / "'s, or the cause of, and solution to, all of lifes problems, or ask me about ambrosia |
| 12:15.53 | Ashamed | i dont drink ever! |
| 12:15.57 | Ashamed | but on fridays at my new job |
| 12:16.00 | Ashamed | which happens to be today! |
| 12:16.05 | Ashamed | So yes i will be drinking |
| 12:16.08 | Ashamed | and plenty before 5! |
| 12:16.10 | Ashamed | like 12.... |
| 12:16.15 | Nash|327 | Drink at your job? |
| 12:16.16 | Nash|327 | wtf |
| 12:16.18 | ________________ | ofc |
| 12:16.20 | Ashamed | beer fridays! |
| 12:16.24 | Nash|327 | Get new job. |
| 12:16.24 | ________________ | he works at beer factory |
| 12:16.28 | Ashamed | i dont |
| 12:16.32 | Nash|327 | Starting drinking at work first day. |
| 12:16.36 | Ashamed | i work in IT |
| 12:16.39 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 12:16.45 | Ashamed | !!!! |
| 12:16.50 | Ashamed | Remote agents = easy |
| 12:16.58 | Ashamed | i can be drukard of my asss and still do my job |
| 12:17.19 | Nash|327 | You're already "drukard of your asss". |
| 12:17.21 | Ashamed | Nash its because its a small company |
| 12:17.23 | Agouti | nash |
| 12:17.25 | Agouti | just for you |
| 12:17.26 | Agouti | http://i.imgur.com/dnpwB.jpg |
| 12:17.36 | Nash|327 | hugetun |
| 12:17.42 | Nash|327 | I approve. |
| 12:17.54 | Zanryu | duration of the behaviour? |
| 12:18.04 | ________________ | permanent |
| 12:18.15 | Nash|327 | Ashamed: well, drinking at work would be frowned upon in Sweden |
| 12:18.30 | ________________ | its frowned upon everywhere nash |
| 12:18.35 | Ashamed | -.- its froned here too |
| 12:18.37 | ________________ | dont listen 2 agouti if he says otherwise |
| 12:18.44 | ________________ | thot as much |
| 12:18.48 | Nash|327 | even at lunch breaks, with food |
| 12:18.49 | Ashamed | but when you are in the top 5000 of small buisnesses and only have 30 employees |
| 12:18.52 | Ashamed | they let you drink |
| 12:19.07 | Agouti | you can drink as much as you like at any time of the day as long as you aren't drunk |
| 12:19.09 | Agouti | ^ |
| 12:19.11 | Ashamed | we were in thet op 5000 last year out of like 26 million companys |
| 12:19.22 | ________________ | nice |
| 12:19.28 | Nash|327 | "we"? |
| 12:19.33 | Nash|327 | Hive mind engaged. |
| 12:19.46 | Agouti | you won't be this year ashamed |
| 12:19.49 | Agouti | since you work there |
| 12:19.49 | Ashamed | -.- yes |
| 12:20.01 | Ashamed | we actually got bought out by the top 500 company this eyar |
| 12:20.05 | Ashamed | so we are going to be much better :) |
| 12:20.11 | Zanryu | can you see the actor message effect from the else? |
| 12:20.12 | ________________ | ~ashamed |
| 12:20.12 | purl | ashamed is, like, an exemplary example of a nerd baller |
| 12:20.20 | Ashamed | thats right |
| 12:20.32 | Nash|327 | You got purchased. |
| 12:20.33 | ________________ | yea, i can see the model swap |
| 12:20.34 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 12:20.36 | ________________ | it works nicely |
| 12:20.38 | Nash|327 | Slave labor. |
| 12:21.00 | ________________ | i could even test it by adding a text msg, but the model swap works so no need |
| 12:21.59 | Zanryu | hm... no ideas left in my trigger section |
| 12:22.06 | ________________ | lol |
| 12:22.21 | Nash|327 | You put ideas in the trigger section? |
| 12:22.24 | ________________ | i figured something was broken with the add behavior thing... but i guess its just me =\ |
| 12:22.35 | Zanryu | hm? |
| 12:22.39 | Nash|327 | Wiouldn't it be better to write them in a text file or something? |
| 12:31.23 | Mexa | deuå |
| 12:32.53 | Ashamed | erg |
| 12:33.03 | Ashamed | my tummy is hurting this morning |
| 12:33.12 | ________________ | eat grass |
| 12:33.16 | Ashamed | ok |
| 12:33.16 | ________________ | its wat dogs do o.o |
| 12:37.41 | Ashamed | slow morning >< |
| 12:43.42 | Ashamed | yaalll so talkative this morning |
| 12:43.54 | Zanryu | why should we say anything^^ |
| 12:44.01 | ________________ | ~shh |
| 12:44.01 | purl | QUIET! |
| 12:44.06 | ________________ | :) |
| 12:44.21 | Ashamed | worken on yall map |
| 12:44.21 | ________________ | ~silence |
| 12:44.29 | Zanryu | right^^ |
| 12:47.49 | Ashamed | http://nlnnet.tumblr.com/post/4856490309/we-have-it-really-good |
| 12:47.57 | Ashamed | >< |
| 12:56.20 | Ashamed | hey nash |
| 12:56.23 | Ashamed | you there? |
| 12:56.29 | ________________ | he died |
| 12:56.38 | Ashamed | :( kittuns got him? |
| 12:57.09 | ________________ | ~8ball did kittuns get nash?? |
| 12:57.10 | purl | Unsure. |
| 12:57.13 | ________________ | hmmm |
| 12:57.17 | ________________ | OH |
| 12:57.39 | ________________ | ~8ball did kittuns get Nash|327?? |
| 12:57.40 | purl | I'm not sure. |
| 12:57.42 | ________________ | damn u |
| 12:57.54 | ________________ | OH I KNOW! |
| 12:57.58 | ________________ | ~8ball did kittuns get Nash|327? |
| 12:57.58 | purl | I'm not sure. |
| 12:58.05 | ________________ | ~give up |
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| 13:16.41 | Ashamed | ima shoot my tummy! |
| 13:16.41 | Ashamed | erg |
| 13:23.17 | Ashamed | ok went and drive heeved for a minute |
| 13:23.19 | Ashamed | feeling a bit better |
| 13:23.44 | ________________ | o no, u must rly b sick |
| 13:23.47 | ________________ | go bak 2 sleep |
| 13:23.49 | ________________ | sleep it off |
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| 13:38.58 | Ashamed | i am at work |
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| 13:57.26 | Nash|327 | kittuns |
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| 14:54.29 | Apple4 | um |
| 14:54.43 | Apple4 | why do parts of my triggers just disapere somtimes |
| 14:54.49 | Apple4 | like poof gone |
| 14:55.15 | Nash|327 | D_D |
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| 15:39.49 | brne- | WHAT |
| 15:39.50 | brne- | BRNE? |
| 15:39.51 | brne- | :( |
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| 15:48.11 | Ashamed | -.- |
| 15:48.12 | Ashamed | nash |
| 15:48.13 | Ashamed | you there |
| 15:48.32 | Ashamed | NASH |
| 15:48.33 | Ashamed | PING |
| 15:48.45 | Agouti | Nash|327 * |
| 15:49.07 | Ashamed | it should ping him with just nash |
| 15:49.08 | Ashamed | i think |
| 15:50.09 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 15:51.14 | Ashamed | nash |
| 15:51.17 | Ashamed | you get that job? |
| 15:51.44 | Nash|327 | no job yet |
| 15:51.44 | Nash|327 | they are slooooow |
| 15:51.59 | Ashamed | :( |
| 15:52.02 | Ashamed | they call you? |
| 15:52.10 | Ashamed | tell you you have the job at least? |
| 15:52.12 | Ashamed | or nutten? |
| 15:54.21 | Nash|327 | haven't heard anything since last week |
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| 16:01.33 | Nash|327 | ordered pizza |
| 16:01.36 | Nash|327 | PIZZAAAA |
| 16:02.08 | Vailreth | all must hail the Pizzza |
| 16:02.17 | Vailreth | pizza pizza pizza |
| 16:06.31 | Mexa | hm |
| 16:06.41 | Nash|327 | hm! |
| 16:06.58 | Mexa | D: Maria Montesami on the radio |
| 16:07.16 | Mexa | Silly swedish hollywood wife... |
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| 16:11.34 | Jum-Jum | trophywife ^^ |
| 16:12.33 | Mexa | And a dumb goose as well. |
| 16:13.29 | Mexa | ... and her obsession with tassels. |
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| 16:15.47 | Manquiche | hi |
| 16:15.57 | Vailreth | hello |
| 16:15.58 | Manquiche | how can i animate a doodad? |
| 16:16.18 | Vailreth | well dose it have animations? |
| 16:16.24 | Manquiche | im not sure |
| 16:16.30 | Manquiche | its the valhalla base door |
| 16:16.35 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 16:16.44 | Agouti | here is a tip |
| 16:16.52 | Agouti | a doodad is simply a unit minus the unit |
| 16:16.53 | Manquiche | the previewer 'plays' the animation layer but there is no movement |
| 16:17.04 | Nash|327 | it's an actor |
| 16:17.19 | Agouti | if the *model* does not have the animation you want |
| 16:17.24 | Agouti | then it does not have it |
| 16:18.13 | Manquiche | well does anyone know of any animated doors/gates that would be suitable for a fenced 'jail'? |
| 16:18.16 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 16:21.01 | Nash|327 | wtf is an animated door |
| 16:21.27 | Manquiche | a door that has an open state and a closed state |
| 16:21.35 | Manquiche | ever played an installation map in sc1? |
| 16:21.42 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 16:21.53 | Nash|327 | those are units |
| 16:21.59 | Manquiche | then you must have seen the animated doodad doors |
| 16:22.00 | Nash|327 | not doodads |
| 16:22.10 | Manquiche | they were listed as doodads in staredit |
| 16:22.20 | Manquiche | does sc2 have anything similar to then? |
| 16:22.22 | Manquiche | then* |
| 16:22.25 | Manquiche | them* |
| 16:22.31 | JademusSreg | "staredit" Haha |
| 16:22.31 | Nash|327 | gates |
| 16:22.47 | JademusSreg | There are gate units, Manq. |
| 16:23.07 | Manquiche | im having trouble finding them, can you direct me please? |
| 16:23.27 | Nash|327 | type in gate |
| 16:23.39 | JademusSreg | Do you have the campaign dependency? |
| 16:23.40 | Manquiche | under what tab? |
| 16:23.44 | Manquiche | no i dont |
| 16:23.47 | Manquiche | should i? |
| 16:25.36 | Manquiche | ? |
| 16:30.09 | Deaod | seeing how many doodads/units/models/... are part of the campaign, yes, you should |
| 16:31.44 | Manquiche | liberty story campaign or just liberty campaign? cheers |
| 16:32.27 | Deaod | i think story doesnt contain much worthwhile |
| 16:32.42 | Deaod | but i dont have as much knowledge of all the assets as Sreg has |
| 16:33.26 | Manquiche | ty |
| 16:33.38 | Mexa | liberty campaign do have the storymode as dependency already |
| 16:33.48 | Deaod | oh |
| 16:33.49 | Deaod | meh |
| 16:33.49 | Mexa | But yes, it doesn't contain that much |
| 16:34.29 | Mexa | In fact, no assets but xmldaya |
| 16:34.31 | Mexa | *data |
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| 16:35.45 | Twisted | o_O |
| 16:37.15 | Twisted | can any one here tell me how I can make a Unit (like a SCV) Build a barracks that then auto spawns marines? |
| 16:38.36 | Nash|327 | kittuns |
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| 16:45.55 | Vailreth | twisted i could easily |
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| 16:49.28 | Wiz10011 | Hello |
| 16:49.37 | Vailreth | Hello |
| 16:53.53 | Manquiche | anyone feel like helping me figure out how to use this gate? |
| 16:53.55 | Manquiche | :D |
| 16:54.29 | Wiz10011 | cant you use that one secret level as a ference for gates? |
| 16:54.49 | Wiz10011 | Blah |
| 16:54.53 | Wiz10011 | reference* |
| 16:54.53 | Manquiche | secret level? |
| 16:55.06 | Wiz10011 | yea there;s a secret level during the campaign that uses gates. |
| 16:55.38 | Wiz10011 | speaking of which, Off to play the campaign again! |
| 16:56.04 | JademusSreg | The gates morph. |
| 16:56.16 | JademusSreg | Castanar is level that uses them extensively. |
| 16:56.58 | Manquiche | how can i open castanar? |
| 16:57.35 | Wiz10011 | which level is castanar again? |
| 17:01.07 | JademusSreg | Castanar is the secret level, the last Horner level. |
| 17:01.14 | Wiz10011 | Oh okay. |
| 17:01.18 | JademusSreg | Open File, select the Campaign tab |
| 17:01.26 | JademusSreg | See campaign maps, rejoice. |
| 17:03.21 | Manquiche | ty |
| 17:03.27 | Manquiche | i think ive got a gate working via triggers |
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| 17:17.11 | Manquiche | is there any way to rotate these campaign gates? |
| 17:17.20 | Manquiche | they have no rotate option in their properties |
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| 17:22.09 | Vailreth | i personally would create new gate structure units with custom footprints |
| 17:22.32 | JademusSreg | Yes, if they could rotate, the footprints wouldn't match the rotation. |
| 17:22.34 | Stewox | CARMACK KEYNOTE 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zgYG-_ha28 |
| 17:23.03 | Manquiche | ty |
| 17:24.21 | Manquiche | hmm |
| 17:24.33 | Manquiche | how come i can rotate the security gate doodads and the footprint follows? |
| 17:24.38 | Manquiche | but not the gate units |
| 17:24.56 | Manquiche | ah wait. nvm. |
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| 17:26.31 | Vailreth | welcome back wiz |
| 17:26.44 | Ashamed | burrito for lunch. :0 |
| 17:30.02 | JademusSreg | Burrito with teeth. |
| 17:30.24 | Ashamed | no teeth |
| 17:30.35 | Ashamed | just a smothered burrito |
| 17:30.45 | JademusSreg | http://i.imgur.com/XOvLK.jpg |
| 17:30.59 | Ashamed | your avitar |
| 17:31.04 | Ashamed | avatar* |
| 17:31.24 | Ashamed | but no |
| 17:31.29 | Ashamed | it does not have teeth |
| 17:31.41 | Ashamed | if i got a burrito with Teeth i would be quite freaked out |
| 17:32.06 | JademusSreg | Nom nom Ash tongue. |
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| 17:33.44 | tordy | afternoon friends |
| 17:35.10 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 17:39.32 | Vailreth | hello |
| 17:41.26 | tordy | what y'all updto |
| 17:41.28 | tordy | an big projects!? |
| 17:41.31 | tordy | *any |
| 17:41.32 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 17:41.36 | JademusSreg | Working on my update. |
| 17:41.38 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 17:41.41 | tordy | for what |
| 17:41.47 | JademusSreg | Photon Cycles. |
| 17:41.48 | tordy | >:) |
| 17:42.19 | Vailreth | hmm. |
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| 17:45.33 | Vailreth | any one know what time Six en is usually around? |
| 17:46.12 | JademusSreg | Whenever. |
| 17:47.05 | tordy | any big gigs!? |
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| 19:04.26 | Motive | MAPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP NIGHTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT |
| 19:08.09 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 19:08.18 | JademusSreg | For EU maybe. |
| 19:08.22 | JademusSreg | NA map night died. |
| 19:08.25 | JademusSreg | Again. |
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| 19:24.10 | Apple4 | ? |
| 19:24.13 | Apple4 | map night? |
| 19:24.18 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 19:24.25 | Apple4 | go on.. |
| 19:24.43 | JademusSreg | Each Friday, players in their respective regions take a break from making thier maps to actuallyp lay maps. |
| 19:25.02 | Apple4 | HAHAH LOSERS |
| 19:25.48 | JademusSreg | An alien concept, I know. Who would expect people making maps to play other people's maps? |
| 19:27.40 | Motive | I wish I had +o on this channel |
| 19:27.44 | Motive | I'd be an awesome mod. |
| 19:27.48 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 19:27.51 | JademusSreg | How so? |
| 19:27.55 | Motive | Well |
| 19:28.04 | Motive | slaps tampa1adam around a bit with a large trout |
| 19:28.07 | Motive | I don't like this guy's name. |
| 19:28.13 | Motive | I would ban him for having a terrible name. |
| 19:28.18 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 19:28.34 | Motive | #1 Mod ever. |
| 19:29.28 | JademusSreg | Update is going swimmingly. |
| 19:29.38 | Motive | :D |
| 19:29.46 | JademusSreg | Got a script for performing forward projection collision detection? |
| 19:30.02 | Motive | No. I'm moving in 8 days. Lol |
| 19:30.14 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 19:30.58 | JademusSreg | Damn you and your completely understandable preoccupation. |
| 19:31.12 | Motive | ;D |
| 19:31.38 | JademusSreg | I shall give myself a special custom model in the next updatwe. |
| 19:31.54 | Motive | Give me one! |
| 19:31.54 | Motive | Lol |
| 19:31.59 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 19:32.05 | JademusSreg | Be useful!' |
| 19:32.32 | tampa1adam | Can I change the flags of a unit (biological, etc) via an effect? |
| 19:32.36 | Vailreth | maybe i should make a custom hero for my self in this map/mod combo im working on with team dead a head |
| 19:32.49 | JademusSreg | Actually, you will be useful, probaby, since I'll be looking at your scripts for managing admin bank power stuff. |
| 19:33.11 | JademusSreg | Vail, that would be op. |
| 19:33.34 | JademusSreg | Or underpowered, either way, it would be unfair, unless it is purely aesthetic. |
| 19:33.40 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 19:33.52 | Vailreth | purely aesthetic |
| 19:33.59 | JademusSreg | Sounds neat. |
| 19:34.07 | Motive | Yup |
| 19:34.13 | Motive | I will save your admin bank powers from ninja |
| 19:34.35 | Motive | Well |
| 19:34.37 | Motive | I'll ninja them. |
| 19:34.39 | Motive | But other than that. |
| 19:34.42 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 19:35.13 | JademusSreg | I need to make a seperate, private map for assigning admin powers, I expect. |
| 19:35.34 | JademusSreg | So implementing admin power and my custom cycle and shit will be the last things I do for this update. |
| 19:35.48 | Vailreth | i want to do some motion graphics work and make an intro for my up and coming sc2 streaming but the free software i have is SOO limited and buggy |
| 19:42.42 | Apple4 | thats very ez expecially if your doing it on a 2d plane.. |
| 19:42.46 | Apple4 | >> |
| 19:42.57 | Apple4 | 2d traceline |
| 19:44.17 | Motive | Use the power of CortexID! |
| 19:44.19 | Motive | Now in version 3! |
| 19:44.52 | Apple4 | move point forward by x, check for closest unit to point within x distance of point, bam if conditions are true, you hit a unit |
| 19:45.49 | Apple4 | x towards polar offset of the facing angle of photon cycle or camera yaw at time of launch |
| 19:48.25 | Mexa | Motive, how's that going? |
| 19:49.57 | Motive | Well |
| 19:50.04 | Motive | This Map Also Was Made With 9146 Actions! 5189 Conditions! 282 Triggers! 212 Variables! And Yet There Is NO Lag |
| 19:50.05 | Motive | luls |
| 19:50.07 | Motive | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/player-zone/map-feedback/23891-the-final-revolution-unique-map/#p1 |
| 19:51.13 | Apple4 | that sucks |
| 19:51.15 | Apple4 | i love lag |
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| 19:53.35 | adgadgadg | hey |
| 19:53.47 | adgadgadg | does any1 know how they make customized units in sc2? |
| 19:53.59 | adgadgadg | like im seeing boats now with aton of attached siege tanks any1 know how to do that? |
| 19:54.08 | Motive | I can do it in triggers |
| 19:54.09 | Motive | Lol |
| 19:54.19 | adgadgadg | .. |
| 19:55.56 | adgadgadg | how do they do it? |
| 19:56.23 | Motive | trigger version? |
| 19:56.33 | adgadgadg | idk |
| 19:56.38 | adgadgadg | is there a way for a regular version |
| 19:56.42 | adgadgadg | or does every1 do trigger? |
| 19:56.58 | adgadgadg | how do u do trigger version? |
| 19:57.10 | Motive | https://github.com/Motive/CortexEngine/blob/master/Commands/UnitCommands.galaxy look at libcrtx_command_attach |
| 19:57.11 | Motive | trigger version |
| 19:57.52 | adgadgadg | no thats cortex.... |
| 19:57.54 | adgadgadg | i mean |
| 19:58.00 | adgadgadg | modify it for an actuall battle map |
| 19:59.02 | Mexa | [21:50] <Motive> This Map Also Was Made With 9146 Actions! 5189 Conditions! 282 Triggers! 212 Variables! And Yet There Is NO Lag -Then that's more impressive of the sc2 engine compared to the wc3 engine |
| 19:59.06 | Apple4 | i believe you do it in the Actors of data editor |
| 19:59.13 | Mexa | But in fact, all that sounds too much... |
| 19:59.15 | Apple4 | beyond that dont ask |
| 19:59.40 | Apple4 | its probably just very inefficent trigger work mexa |
| 19:59.45 | Mexa | yeah |
| 20:00.14 | Mexa | While it may not "lag" for the one who stated it, that is not a good representation of every player |
| 20:00.24 | Mexa | He might have a good computer |
| 20:00.48 | Motive | no |
| 20:00.50 | Motive | its all laughable |
| 20:00.57 | Motive | because it doesn't matter how many triggers, conditions, actions, or variables you have |
| 20:01.04 | Motive | Galaxy is fine at processing large numbers of things |
| 20:01.10 | Motive | its what they actually do that matters |
| 20:01.21 | Mexa | [22:00] <Mexa> While it may not "lag" for the one who stated it, that is not a good representation of every player |
| 20:02.47 | Mexa | Too many triggers and inefficient coding, will generate longer trigger execution time |
| 20:02.55 | Mexa | In which can affect any other player.. |
| 20:03.24 | Mexa | More triggers also generate more syncronizations with the server |
| 20:03.39 | Motive | more triggers doesn't mean longer execution time. |
| 20:03.47 | Motive | and syncronization with the server is fine, too |
| 20:03.53 | Mexa | Depends on the event manager, really |
| 20:03.54 | Motive | since it's not handled at all by triggers |
| 20:04.05 | Mexa | triggers are syncronous |
| 20:04.05 | Motive | triggers all run independently and in the same predictable way |
| 20:04.27 | Motive | but they don't need to be syncronized |
| 20:04.30 | Mexa | ... they are syncronized over battle.net |
| 20:04.40 | Motive | nope :) |
| 20:04.43 | Mexa | Maybe they don't, but they are. |
| 20:04.45 | Motive | only the user's input is. |
| 20:04.53 | Motive | the triggers then have the same predictable outcomes on every PC |
| 20:04.55 | Motive | so they're never sync'd |
| 20:04.59 | Motive | therefore never affect performance over battle.net |
| 20:05.02 | Mexa | Not true |
| 20:05.09 | Motive | Yes true |
| 20:05.39 | Motive | If the user's inputs are all shared and synchronized, then the rest of the game's data doesn't need to be, so long as they all follow a predictable chain of logic and have the same random # seed. |
| 20:05.44 | Mexa | the execution time differs per computer, and such, it needs to be syncronized with other players |
| 20:06.01 | Motive | no because the resolution of an update is 125ms |
| 20:06.11 | Motive | and if the execution time isn't done by then, it lags, because the game needs an update. |
| 20:06.12 | Mexa | depends how fast the trigger is |
| 20:06.14 | Mexa | gheesh =_= |
| 20:06.31 | Motive | shouldn't matter |
| 20:06.45 | Mexa | Say a scenario where one computer gets a trigger error: Execution time too long. |
| 20:06.47 | Motive | thanks to the predictable 1/16th of a second latency for thread updates |
| 20:07.01 | Motive | then it'd result in a desync |
| 20:07.03 | Mexa | yes |
| 20:07.07 | Motive | but it's never sync'd |
| 20:07.11 | Motive | just hashed and compared with the rest of the game state |
| 20:07.21 | Motive | so trigger performance doesn't result in any kind of performance drop over battle.net |
| 20:07.34 | Mexa | I believe that when you have made a perf test |
| 20:07.35 | Mexa | ._. |
| 20:07.39 | Motive | No need |
| 20:07.42 | Motive | just the nature of an RTS engine |
| 20:07.47 | Mexa | Sure.. |
| 20:07.51 | Motive | Syncing all the data would be way too much bandwidth |
| 20:07.58 | Motive | syncing inputs and running the same simulation is low bandwidth and easy |
| 20:08.14 | Mexa | Blizzard is syncing way lot data due to anticheat/memory injecting on the code, you know. |
| 20:08.27 | Motive | They don't have to |
| 20:08.31 | Mexa | >BUT THEY ARE |
| 20:08.34 | Motive | They just hash the gamestate of all the players, compare it. |
| 20:08.45 | Motive | If the hashes don't match, d/c and don't record any melee statistics for anyone. |
| 20:08.56 | Mexa | If only you knew packet sniffing and sending on this topic |
| 20:08.57 | Vailreth | i have a question, how baddly would trigger that runs no actions but fires every half a second slow down the game? |
| 20:09.01 | Mexa | Doesn't seem you do |
| 20:09.02 | Motive | I do know packet sniffing and sending |
| 20:09.02 | Motive | :) |
| 20:09.13 | Mexa | hrmf |
| 20:09.26 | Mexa | Fine, I'm in denial then |
| 20:09.29 | Motive | Lol |
| 20:09.32 | Mexa | I'm going to bed |
| 20:09.44 | Motive | SC2 isn't like WoW, WoW was easy to mess with packets and produce odd outcomes |
| 20:09.47 | Motive | but alright |
| 20:09.47 | Motive | Lol |
| 20:09.55 | Mexa | I never mentioned WoW |
| 20:09.59 | Motive | yeah I know |
| 20:10.06 | Motive | but they're two very different models of how to run the simulation. |
| 20:10.07 | Mexa | In fact don't talk about it, I don't own the game. |
| 20:11.45 | Vailreth | any one? |
| 20:11.58 | Motive | not at all. |
| 20:12.03 | Motive | It wouldn't have any performance penalty, really |
| 20:12.04 | Mexa | Vail, it would be no issue, but the more triggers running 'simultaneously', the more it could potentially lag the game. |
| 20:12.25 | Motive | I have to disagree. |
| 20:12.33 | Mexa | Then you're in denial. |
| 20:12.37 | Vailreth | but i only have that one and get a 25-50% drop in frame rate... |
| 20:12.40 | Motive | I think the trigger layer is so isolated and efficient enough that it'd be impossible to lag the game with triggers alone |
| 20:12.42 | Motive | Debug Window |
| 20:12.43 | Motive | slows down things |
| 20:12.49 | Motive | close it, your FPS will speed up |
| 20:12.54 | Mexa | Not talking about the debugger |
| 20:13.04 | Motive | No but if he's testing a map |
| 20:13.07 | Mexa | Motive, I challenge you |
| 20:13.07 | Motive | and the debugger is open too |
| 20:13.15 | Motive | any fast-running trigger will lag. |
| 20:13.15 | Motive | known issue |
| 20:13.16 | Vailreth | ah |
| 20:13.29 | Motive | Unless your triggers are spawning units or modifying the game world, I doubt you could ever create lag with Galaxy, honestly. |
| 20:13.34 | Mexa | every 1 second, fire 100 timers which will finish at the same time. |
| 20:13.38 | Motive | I think you can be inefficient, reckless, etc, but lag the game? No |
| 20:13.39 | Mexa | Do it |
| 20:13.39 | Mexa | :D |
| 20:13.44 | Motive | You'd hit the thread limit first. |
| 20:13.50 | Motive | I've done it. |
| 20:13.51 | Motive | Lol |
| 20:13.56 | Twisted | Can some one tell me how I make a player controlled unit like a SCV Build a Barracks that then auto spawns or trains marines? |
| 20:13.58 | Motive | It seamlessly just fails and doesn't run. |
| 20:14.05 | Motive | No perf. penalty |
| 20:14.14 | Mexa | What about the thread limit - 1? |
| 20:14.38 | Motive | idk what that limit is, but it still wouldn't lag. |
| 20:14.51 | Motive | any modern CPU can handle whatever you're going to throw at it through Galaxy. |
| 20:14.55 | Vailreth | I can Twisted |
| 20:15.01 | Motive | as long as it doesn't interfere with the game world, it should appear to run instantly |
| 20:15.20 | Mexa | Not mentioning that sc2 is singlethreaded... |
| 20:15.26 | Motive | It's not singlethreaded. |
| 20:15.27 | Mexa | I mean |
| 20:15.32 | Motive | SC2 is optimized for dual cores, iirc |
| 20:15.33 | Mexa | using 1 processor |
| 20:15.55 | Mexa | It only uses 1 core |
| 20:15.55 | Motive | The script engine prolly uses one real thread and splits the scripting work over multiple virtual threads, over "steps" |
| 20:16.04 | Mexa | And galaxy is definitly not multithreaded |
| 20:16.06 | Motive | that way you can predictably tell if an operation will overflow and take > 125ms/ one game loop to work |
| 20:16.09 | Mexa | As everything is on a queue |
| 20:16.10 | Motive | we know this :) |
| 20:16.11 | Motive | yup |
| 20:16.13 | Motive | it only appears to be |
| 20:16.59 | Mexa | 'appears' seem to be as much speculation from your side as from mine. |
| 20:17.11 | Motive | Nah, it's not speculation. |
| 20:17.16 | Motive | We know it's not multi-threaded, for sure |
| 20:17.25 | Motive | We know that it just does a little work here, skips to the next "thread" and does some work, etc |
| 20:17.35 | Motive | that way it looks like they're running in tandem |
| 20:17.48 | Mexa | Never anything at the same time, is the point. |
| 20:17.55 | Motive | Yes |
| 20:17.58 | Motive | we are in agreement on that |
| 20:17.58 | Motive | :) |
| 20:18.05 | Mexa | Was about to say the same |
| 20:18.07 | Mexa | lol |
| 20:18.16 | Mexa | I'd drop the rest then |
| 20:18.20 | Motive | so everything in galaxy that doesn't affect the game world just boils down to basic math or string manipulation |
| 20:18.22 | Mexa | I'm tired |
| 20:18.30 | Motive | which we know modern CPUs can do so easily, it's not even worth checking |
| 20:18.40 | Mexa | string manipulations in galaxy is shit and slow tho |
| 20:18.55 | Mexa | strings are also serialized |
| 20:19.02 | Motive | yes |
| 20:19.11 | Motive | slow but is it slow enough to cause a perf. drop? I dont think so |
| 20:19.15 | Motive | slow compared to regular char* arrays? yes |
| 20:19.43 | Mexa | I was just saying. |
| 20:19.54 | Mexa | Never implied perf. drop |
| 20:20.57 | Mexa | Motive, fyi tho, I've seen lag spikes due to inefficient triggering |
| 20:21.07 | Mexa | A prime example, the campaign. |
| 20:21.36 | Mexa | Or when they execute triggers that do take longer time. |
| 20:21.36 | Motive | yes |
| 20:21.40 | Motive | but they interfere with the game world |
| 20:21.44 | Motive | like creating units, etc. |
| 20:21.53 | Mexa | Well yes |
| 20:22.02 | Motive | So one could argue it was just the CPU not handling the game world properly |
| 20:22.04 | Motive | not mass galaxy triggers |
| 20:22.04 | Motive | :) |
| 20:22.13 | Mexa | You mentioned input as being the only thing synced as triggers before. |
| 20:22.21 | Mexa | I'll tell you more... Dialog events |
| 20:22.28 | Mexa | They produce more delay |
| 20:22.33 | Mexa | *have |
| 20:22.34 | Motive | yes because it's more input to sync |
| 20:22.36 | Motive | :) |
| 20:22.43 | Motive | but only input, not triggers |
| 20:22.48 | Motive | the dialog creation, all that, not sync'd |
| 20:22.52 | Motive | just what a user types, stuff like that |
| 20:22.54 | Mexa | Don't you give me that smiley face D: |
| 20:23.09 | Mexa | I mean, fine then |
| 20:23.14 | Motive | :P |
| 20:24.02 | Mexa | I surrender, quite frankly I think I meant something else when I was starting the discussion |
| 20:24.07 | Mexa | So never mind |
| 20:24.10 | Motive | Haha |
| 20:24.11 | Motive | Lol |
| 20:24.12 | Motive | Ok |
| 20:24.34 | Mexa | Also too tired, as said, just ignore me for the rest of it |
| 20:24.51 | Mexa | Goodnight manlyways. |
| 20:25.46 | Mexa_ | I'll keep your Cortex link in mind, by the way. |
| 20:26.08 | Motive | night |
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| 20:39.31 | JademusSreg | Raaage. |
| 20:39.39 | JademusSreg | My internet connection sucks. |
| 20:40.28 | Vailreth | yeah they tend to do that from time to time |
| 20:41.39 | JademusSreg | It sucks particularly when I'm playing a game and lag kills. |
| 20:47.45 | Vailreth | ouch |
| 20:48.36 | Vailreth | i once lagged in an unreal tounrament game so baddly i fired off three rockets and the lag froze them in air long enough for me to run infront of them and .... boom |
| 20:48.57 | Vailreth | they caught up to me just as i was infront of them |
| 20:52.29 | Vailreth | i never played unreall 2004 on dial up again |
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| 20:57.18 | pirate | yarr |
| 21:06.32 | pirate | ..yar? |
| 21:07.56 | Vailreth | yar |
| 21:10.49 | pirate | yar! |
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| 21:16.32 | Twisted_ | How do I make created units not be controlled by the player, but still be considered of the players units ? |
| 21:19.55 | pirate | ..? |
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| 21:33.58 | Apple4 | iiv been sitting here |
| 21:34.02 | Apple4 | for 5 hours |
| 21:34.08 | Apple4 | trying to figure out 1 equation |
| 21:41.11 | Apple4 | and iv been doing this for a lot of equaitons on my map |
| 21:42.04 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 21:50.15 | Xapti | I only had to do one equation for my map but it a hellishly nasty |
| 21:55.52 | Apple4 | such as my radar, which i solved, and atm im doing a 2D 3d representation of the bullet pathing from the players gun to their target point and beyond |
| 21:56.05 | Apple4 | theres an easy awnser |
| 21:56.09 | Apple4 | i just cant find it |
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| 22:08.58 | pirate | has anyone figured out circular minimap yet? |
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| 22:20.18 | pirate | kk people of the irc |
| 22:20.31 | pirate | which system should I implement next |
| 22:20.33 | pirate | items? |
| 22:20.35 | pirate | or skills? |
| 22:22.06 | pirate | irc..... |
| 22:22.07 | pirate | you dissapoint |
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| 22:36.28 | JademusSreg | Circular minimap is easy. Superimpose a circular frame over it via UI layout editing or a diaglog. |
| 22:36.32 | JademusSreg | *dialog |
| 22:36.36 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 22:38.10 | pirate | coo |
| 22:40.29 | JademusSreg | Also, what was your question earlier about items and skills? |
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| 22:42.20 | Ashamed | SupZ GeeeZ |
| 22:42.30 | Ashamed | ~hi |
| 22:42.30 | purl | hello, ashamed |
| 22:42.40 | Ashamed | ~hi -.- |
| 22:42.40 | purl | Many greetings, -.-, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 22:45.29 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 22:46.23 | Apple4 | does anyonw know how to get the current Row Number |
| 22:46.27 | Apple4 | in Excell |
| 22:49.29 | Apple4 | lol nvm |
| 22:50.20 | Ashamed | noob lol |
| 22:56.36 | Apple4 | fuuuuuuccckk |
| 22:56.40 | Apple4 | i cant get this |
| 22:56.42 | Apple4 | too dumb |
| 23:07.13 | Apple4 | (60/x) + (60/(x - 1)) + (60/(x - 2)) + (60/(x - 3)) + (60/(x - 4)) + (60/(x - 5)) Untill the denominator is 1 |
| 23:07.30 | Apple4 | does anyone know how to turn that into a single equation |
| 23:07.39 | Apple4 | im going insane atm |
| 23:07.42 | Apple4 | cant focus |
| 23:07.43 | Apple4 | ajknfa |
| 23:09.16 | Deaod | classic sum |
| 23:09.49 | Apple4 | ? |
| 23:09.57 | Deaod | hmmm |
| 23:12.17 | Apple4 | you know what i mean, it runs 60 / ( 10 - x) , where starts at 0 and increases by 1 each time, and add it to the next one all the way untill the denominator is 1 |
| 23:13.03 | Apple4 | (60/x - 0) + (60/(x - 1)) + (60/(x - 2)) + (60/(x - 3)) + (60/(x - 4)) + (60/(x - 5)) Until Denominator = 1 >> |
| 23:13.22 | Apple4 | turn that into a single equation |
| 23:17.20 | Deaod | hmmmm |
| 23:21.14 | JademusSreg | It's a function, using iteration, so a simple while loop would accomplish it. |
| 23:21.40 | Apple4 | yeah but i dont want to do that |
| 23:21.53 | Deaod | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harmonic_number |
| 23:21.54 | Apple4 | i wannt to do mathss |
| 23:21.59 | Deaod | this is the series youre using |
| 23:22.10 | Apple4 | AH |
| 23:22.14 | Apple4 | LOOK AT THAT |
| 23:22.20 | Deaod | multiplied by 60 |
| 23:22.36 | Apple4 | it is forign to me |
| 23:22.37 | Apple4 | but |
| 23:22.41 | Apple4 | i will figure it ou |
| 23:23.03 | Deaod | unfortunately, i cant seem to find an expression that calculates the nth Harmonic number without the sum |
| 23:23.31 | Apple4 | huh? |
| 23:23.52 | Apple4 | so what do i put in and what do i get out of thise |
| 23:24.06 | Apple4 | nvm i see |
| 23:24.11 | JademusSreg | It's like if you wanted to find an arbitrary number out of the Fibonacci sequence. |
| 23:24.30 | Deaod | except that theres actually a formula for that, Sreg |
| 23:24.37 | JademusSreg | Haha, damn. |
| 23:24.37 | Deaod | crazy stuff |
| 23:24.40 | JademusSreg | I wasn't away. |
| 23:24.45 | JademusSreg | *aware |
| 23:25.17 | Deaod | i dont remember exactly, but i think it had square roots in it |
| 23:25.49 | Apple4 | so u dont know how i would set this up >> |
| 23:27.03 | JademusSreg | a n = [ Phi n - (phi) n ]/Sqrt[5] |
| 23:27.19 | JademusSreg | There's the formula for the Fibonacci sequence. |
| 23:27.24 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 23:29.02 | Apple4 | i dont think the sc2 editor even has these functions |
| 23:29.04 | Apple4 | >> |
| 23:30.12 | Deaod | it wont help you anyway |
| 23:30.28 | Deaod | the fibonacci series is irrelevant to your problem |
| 23:30.43 | Apple4 | im talking about the harmonic number stuff |
| 23:31.41 | Apple4 | i will have to have a dialog image that has lines separated by different distances on a scale of the harmonic number hting |
| 23:32.07 | Apple4 | and the offset of the dialog image on the screen will have to use it as well |
| 23:33.24 | Apple4 | the center of the screen will be the center point, aka the X focal point which is linear, but will have to be translated into the harmonics |
| 23:33.47 | Apple4 | to mvoe the image(or point along the image) in relation tooo x |
| 23:35.54 | Ashamed | SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I THREW IT ON THE GROUND |
| 23:35.59 | Ashamed | I AM NOT PARTY OF YOUR SYSTEM |
| 23:36.06 | Ashamed | PART* |
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| 23:37.27 | Deaod | whats the range of your x? |
| 23:39.19 | Apple4 | player will be able to set it from 10-60, but 1-60 should be visible |
| 23:40.06 | Deaod | well, ideally, youd use a while loop |
| 23:40.17 | Apple4 | yeah perhapss |
| 23:40.33 | Deaod | but if you dont want that, you could use the following relation: |
| 23:40.34 | Apple4 | thas gay, wish math was cooler |
| 23:40.39 | Apple4 | lol |
| 23:40.56 | Deaod | The values of the sequence Hn - ln(n) decrease monotonically towards the limit:(where γ is the EulerâMascheroni constant 0.5772156649...) |
| 23:41.01 | Apple4 | i could use the harmonic number has a fraction |
| 23:41.09 | Apple4 | ? |
| 23:41.41 | Deaod | if you dont care much for accuracy, you could use ln(x) minus that constant |
| 23:42.33 | Deaod | now, SC2 only offers log2 |
| 23:44.07 | Deaod | so youll have to use log2(x)/log2(e) as ln(x) |
| 23:44.42 | Deaod | e being eulers constant |
| 23:47.20 | Apple4 | thanks a lot for teh info, now i put it all together |
| 23:47.54 | Apple4 | and here is a good singer |
| 23:47.56 | Apple4 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Npn2zYeE9GA |
| 23:49.19 | Deaod | basically, youd use (log2(x)/log2(e))+0.5772 |
| 23:49.56 | Deaod | problem is that itd be inaccurate, especially at low values for x |
| 23:50.20 | Apple4 | i guess il do the while loop then |
| 23:50.30 | Apple4 | has to be completely accurate |
| 23:54.52 | Deaod | though, if you happen to find a formula to calculate the nth harmonic number immediately, be sure to send proof to your math teacher |
| 23:55.11 | Deaod | im sure hed be very interested |
| 23:55.27 | Apple4 | well |
| 23:55.31 | Apple4 | thats what iv been sitting here |
| 23:55.35 | Apple4 | for like 5 hours |
| 23:55.38 | Apple4 | trying to figure out |
| 23:55.39 | Apple4 | lmao |
