IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20110803

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06:19.54Keyeszxso I hit the tree and nothing happens for like 20 minutes
06:20.14JademusSreg*no
06:20.16JademusSregHaha
06:20.16MexaIt be a purl :O
06:20.32Apple4iv played mortal online and darkfall
06:20.46Apple4and i was really big into making creative things in second life
06:21.18Apple4and teh experience does and and never will come from the MMO itself
06:21.27Apple4cuz tis just an illusion ;p
06:21.30JademusSregThe classic example I use for what this ideal MMO would be like is colonizing a world. And you know that the first thing players would do in a world that allows you to build is make penises. See: Spore
06:21.57JademusSregSo if people can create penises, there will be people who also think it's crass and want to prevent that sort of expression.
06:22.04Apple4you want to be the creator of a perfect "game"
06:22.27Apple4which is life
06:22.49Keyeszxanyone heard of akinator?
06:23.12JademusSregSo you'd have a faction of people valuing free expression, fortified around the Valley of Cocks, where these people build their phallic sculptures, and people who want to maintain some goddamn dignity and not let the game devolve into a massive juvenile cock joke.
06:23.34JademusSregAnd they would via for control, each with their equally valid ideals, with equipment they fashion.
06:24.04Apple4you must make a game
06:24.19Apple4that makes them forget who they really are and are so immersed they think they are the person in teh game
06:24.30Apple4eh
06:24.30JademusSregSomeone figures out how to build firearms, and then cannons, and so forth. Again, not items programmed into the game, but item's whose utiltiy arises from their physical properties, a dynamic arrangement of smaller more fundamental components.
06:24.58timecati'm assuming you'd use seasons?
06:25.01JademusSregToo many typos.
06:25.08JademusSregSeasons?
06:25.13Apple4and then theyd grief everyone
06:25.13timecatotherwise everyone would end up at the same level
06:25.14Apple4right
06:25.34JademusSregEveryone on the same planet, simultaneously.
06:25.38JademusSregNothing instanced.
06:25.59JademusSregIf you die, you respawn on some other reguion of the planet, far from the player character's previous life.
06:26.17timecatyou should make it permadeath
06:26.18JademusSregNo gear, nothing. Basically a new character.
06:26.19Apple410 players online
06:26.23Apple4fuk
06:26.33JademusSregThis is as close to permadeath as makes sense.
06:26.57MexaJademus, that people had so much fun and maturity to build giant penises was probably a reason why darkspore became such strict as it became
06:27.07MexaRegarding the character creation.
06:27.10JademusSregHaha
06:27.44JademusSregDarkspore isn't fun to play though. So yes, I agree, but I guess it doesn't matter. =D
06:28.00MexaAs always, they have a reputation to maintain, and also a ESBR rating
06:28.07JademusSregYup.
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06:28.53MexaNow to come to think of it, I am surprised I haven't seen that many things of that in minecraft
06:28.58JademusSregBasically, until an MMO exists that fulfills this ideal, I'm not interested in any MMOs.
06:30.41Keyeszxhas anyone used akinator
06:30.54JademusSregNope.
06:30.55Keyeszxhow does it work?
06:31.03Keyeszxhttp://www.akinator.mobi/us/suggest/t/
06:31.47*** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~Bibendus@ip-80-67-114-201.static.adsl.cheapnet.it)
06:33.48JademusSregHah, it got it completely wrong.
06:35.07JademusSregI hit the 404 Page not found error.
06:35.18JademusSregI guess I beat it to fucking death.
06:37.31JademusSregYup, I beat it with the same character, every time.
06:38.50JademusSregHaha.
06:38.53JademusSregSo sad.
06:38.57JademusSregIt keeps breaking.
06:41.45*** join/#sc2mapster Nash|327 (~nn@81-234-225-23-no35.tbcn.telia.com)
06:42.22Keyeszxwhat character?
06:43.25JademusSregLev Nikolayevich Myshkin
06:44.42Keyeszxwho is that?
06:45.33JademusSregThe protagonist in Dostoyevsky's The Idiot.
06:47.33*** join/#sc2mapster JoBoDo (9088c267@gateway/web/freenode/ip.144.136.194.103)
06:47.42JoBoDoHey lads
06:47.45Keyeszxis he the main character?
06:47.52JademusSregYes.
06:47.56JademusSregHi Jo.
06:48.14JoBoDohaven't been on in a bit
06:48.18JoBoDobeeg bogged down with uni work
06:48.20JoBoDo:c
06:48.49JoBoDoquestion, its not a mapping question, but it's a sc2 question
06:49.04JoBoDoa while back they gave SEA users the option to create an NA account
06:49.15JademusSregCool.
06:49.16JoBoDoand they were/are allowed to switch between the two servers/accounts
06:49.33JoBoDoBUttttt, Now it won't let me change my region to SEA and I cant play with my mate -__-
06:49.43JademusSregWeird.
06:49.58JoBoDoany ideas?, are there any other ways to change client region that you know of?
06:50.05JoBoDoit used to just be a button in the login screen, but it's gone missing
06:50.28JademusSregYou could ask some of the Australians in here, or post on bnet technical support forums.
06:51.26JoBoDoyeah well it was a general question for anyone to answer :p, and I did post on bnet forums, but thought i'd try to get some advice from here if possible
06:51.31JoBoDoas it was possibly faster :p
06:51.46JademusSregAsk Dogmai if he is on.
06:52.31Dogmai?
06:52.35JoBoDo=D
06:52.47JoBoDodo you have any ideas on what I just wrote ?
06:52.51JoBoDo:c
06:53.03Dogmailogin
06:53.05Dogmaithen logout
06:53.09JoBoDotried
06:53.10Dogmaithat is what refreshes the button
06:53.13JoBoDothen logged in and out again
06:53.16JoBoDoand in and out again
06:53.16JoBoDo:c
06:53.19Dogmaidid you change the registry?
06:53.26JoBoDonope i havent
06:53.33Dogmaibitch at blizzard
06:53.38JoBoDo^
06:53.42Dogmaicause mine is working =\
06:53.48JoBoDois there something in reg that I can do?
06:54.04JoBoDoI had to redownload/install my sc2 at one point
06:54.13JoBoDowhich I think might be the problem, might have nabbed the US version
06:54.18Dogmaithen you installed the NA version
06:54.24JoBoDoI checked on bnet, and when i go into the SEA link, and click download game client
06:54.28JoBoDoit still links to the NA version
06:54.42Nash|327JademusSreg
06:54.48Nash|327We talked about this.
06:54.50JoBoDoIt's not giving me an option to download SEA client .. D:
06:54.53Nash|327Use smaller words.
06:55.08Nash|327Your diction confounds these simpletons.
06:55.40JademusSregHah.
06:56.00Dogmaibecause all of NA would download sea
06:56.01JoBoDodw
06:56.01Nash|327(JademusSreg) The protagonist in Dostoyevsky's The Idiot. (Keyeszx) is he the main character?
06:56.05Dogmaiwhere are your cds
06:56.08Nash|327QED
06:56.11JoBoDoDigital Distribution
06:56.20JoBoDobut dw, I've found a SEA client
06:56.26Dogmaialright
06:56.28Dogmaiits fucken stupi
06:56.30Dogmaid
06:56.36Dogmaithe region changer should be on all clients
06:56.39Dogmaicause i cant use my EU key
06:56.40Dogmaimother fuckers
06:57.55Nash|327Dogface D:
06:58.11JoBoDoDog
06:58.17JoBoDoI found a work-around
06:58.27JoBoDoI'll still re-download, but i want to play now so i'll use this atm
06:58.27JoBoDohttp://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139082
06:58.33JoBoDo^changes region
06:58.40Dogmaithat totally fucks you up when it comes to patch time
06:58.47JoBoDoorly
06:58.52Dogmairly
06:58.56Dogmaiit did for me when i used it
06:58.58Dogmaihad to reinstall sc2 =\
06:59.01JoBoDowell, as I said, I'll download SEA client anyway :p
06:59.09JoBoDobut want to play right now
06:59.12JoBoDoinb4 patch
07:00.47Dogmaihave fun
07:00.49Dogmaiour internet sucks
07:00.56Dogmaiif it was me
07:00.59Dogmaii would find a friend
07:01.01Dogmaiwith the dvd
07:01.09JoBoDotrue
07:01.09JoBoDolol
07:01.13JoBoDomy mate got the game yesterday
07:01.13JoBoDoxD
07:01.27Dogmaisteal the dvd
07:01.31Dogmaicopy it to your hd
07:01.34Dogmaithats what im gonna do
07:01.36Dogmaicause i lost the dvd too
07:01.37JoBoDohmm
07:02.58JoBoDoWOOT
07:03.02JoBoDohe's on his way with the disc, lmao
07:06.27Nash|327That's good service.
07:10.40MexaHey Nash
07:11.05Nash|327It is a Mexa.
07:11.50Nash|327How is Greece?
07:12.02Dogmaii saved u 6 gigs
07:12.05Dogmainow download some porn
07:12.08Dogmaiand send it to me
07:12.17Nash|327download some PONIES
07:14.16pirateis it possible to use a single trigger with different event types (IE, keypress 1 to 5 AND dialog item used 1 to 5) without getting trigger errors?
07:15.11Nash|327why would you do that? :G
07:15.30pirateto use less global variables
07:15.31JademusSregMaybe. Detect if event relevant value is null, then diverge from there.
07:15.38piratejust tried :(
07:15.44JademusSregNow if the event response functions are popping the errors, then no.
07:16.22Nash|327why would that help using fewer global variables? D_D
07:16.38piratecameras
07:17.03piratescripting doesnt like cameras/points/regions/units already placed on the map at init
07:17.10timecathttp://i.imgur.com/cGA68.png
07:18.33Nash|327Instead of a trigger with multiple events, why not 2 triggers which both use the same action definition? D_D
07:19.17piratethen I either have to repeat myself with local variables, or use global variables...  its not something I really need, just something I wanted
07:19.48JademusSregAre the event response functions the source of the errors?
07:19.51timecatis there a way to catagorize abilities?
07:19.58pirateyes
07:20.02JademusSregtimecat, in what sense>?
07:20.04timecatso i can have an event "any unit uses ability from catagory a"
07:20.06pirate@ Jadem
07:20.07JademusSregpirate, then no.
07:20.11piratekk
07:20.29JademusSregtimecat, ah, no, I don't think so.
07:20.37JademusSregYou'll need ot use conditions to sort that out.
07:20.41JademusSreg*to
07:21.01timecatbleh
07:21.22Nash|327Make your own condition using MAGIC
07:21.23timecati guess i could just use conditions to rule out every ability that isn't an upgrade ability
07:21.27JademusSregOr register an event for every single ability of that category, haha.
07:21.31timecatlol no
07:21.42Nash|327I have a trigger with 200 events
07:21.46timecatthe actions won't be upgrade specific
07:21.58timecatthey just have to be upgrades
07:22.49JademusSregWell, I can think of an O(n) and an O(1) approach, and they are both ugly.
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07:23.02timecatwell yea they're going to be
07:23.13timecatunfortunately there's also no "any ability" value
07:25.08JademusSreghttp://gunshowcomic.com/comics/20110803-bodyofleaves.png
07:25.18JademusSregThat was an enjoyable novel.
07:25.34timecatwhen i use the spire - morph ability is that destroying the original unit?
07:25.39JademusSregNo.
07:25.40timecatand then putting a new unit in its place?
07:25.44timecathow does it work
07:25.54timecatbecause i know the original actor gets destroyed
07:26.16JademusSregIt morphs the unit. Not sure how else I could explain it. =D
07:26.44JademusSregYeah, actors usually get destroyed and created with morphs, but the unit is the same.
07:27.54Nash|327it's not the same unit if it morphs to another unit!!
07:28.09timecat^tthats what i'm thinking
07:28.13JademusSregSame unit instance, different unit type.
07:28.19timecatah
07:28.31JademusSregSo if the unit is in a variable, that variable will continue to refer to the unit before and after the morph.
07:28.57Nash|327It will refer to two different units!
07:28.57timecatthere's gotta be a shortcut...
07:29.00JademusSregHaha
07:29.11timecati don't wanna make 23421 triggers or if-then statements for each morph ability
07:29.27Nash|327I am throwing confusion in your gears.
07:29.51JademusSregIt's a good thing confusion isn't a material or thatm ight cause problems.
07:30.09timecatit manifests itself when it nears gears
07:30.10JademusSregConfusionium.
07:30.56JademusSreg"This cycle was named for the Doc they call Seuss, and // it curves in the back like a serpent's caboose that // was tickled and kicked and then whipped like a twizzle, // now stuck in the shape of snake bacon too sizzled." Seuss photon cycle tooltip.
07:32.00JademusSregWriting that tooltip was fun, though.
07:32.53timecatwell i guess i gotta make 3241 triggers for each upgrade
07:33.30JademusSregAren't many upgrades stored in the same Research ability, though?
07:33.51timecat?
07:33.57timecateach tower has an ability morph
07:34.00timecatto upgrade the tower
07:34.12JademusSregAh, discussing morphs. Memory lapse.
07:34.24JademusSregWhat is the purpose of these triggers again?
07:34.38timecati need some stuff to happen when any unit upgrades
07:34.55JademusSregSpecifically?
07:35.08timecati need to remove all power links attached to the unit
07:36.32JademusSregI wonder if TriggerAddEventUnitConstructProgress (trigger t, unitref u, int stage); fires on morphs.
07:37.01timecathmm
07:37.03timecatlemme try that
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07:38.07timecatnope
07:39.09JademusSregTime for me to sleep.
07:39.12JademusSregLater.
07:39.20timecatpce
07:40.23timecatwait
07:40.43timecat"any unit is issued an order to (ability command for (triggering order))
07:41.58tampa1adamim having a problem with that in my trigger atm
07:42.10tampa1adamtrying to just make an ability that when u use it a trigger fires
07:42.59tampa1adambut I cant set a button on a generic ability so nothing shows up on the command card
07:44.04timecatyou can make a trigger fire when a specific ability is used
07:44.39tampa1adamwell when i change it to augment
07:44.42tampa1adami can set a button
07:44.52tampa1adambut in the trigger how do i say when that ability is used at any stage
07:46.10tampa1adam<PROTECTED>
07:46.21tampa1adamdoesnt work
07:46.33tampa1adamhow do I say like any stage
07:46.40timecatyou don't want any stage
07:46.46timecatbecause it will cause the trigger to fire 7 times
07:46.55timecatset it to generic - execute
07:47.21tampa1adamstill doesnt work
07:47.36tampa1adamits because my ability isnt a generic type
07:47.41tampa1adamits an augment
07:47.43timecatit doesn't matter what type it is
07:47.44tampa1adamtype
07:47.49tampa1adamkk
07:48.07tampa1adam<PROTECTED>
07:48.08tampa1adamdoesnt work
07:48.12timecatidk then
07:48.30tampa1adamwhich is why I think they type has something to do with it
07:48.39tampa1adam..?
07:48.49timecatpossibly
07:48.55timecati've never used augument abilities
07:49.15tampa1adamwell i dont have to use an augment type
07:49.36tampa1adamjust need a dummy ability to put on the cmd card with a button pic, then launch a trigger when it's used
07:50.02timecatthat'd prolly work
07:50.46Mexa.. yay for phone calls with lousy salespeople.
07:51.01*** join/#sc2mapster Agouti (~Agouti@60-240-2-243.tpgi.com.au)
07:58.40timecataww yea totally nailed a bug that's been plaguging my map for weeks
07:58.42Nash|327buy this crap!
07:58.55Nash|327all salespeople are lousy though
08:01.28Nash|327they're just a worthless pile of crap which contributes nothing to humanity ;G
08:03.09Currydevilthey want to sell you kittunbags.
08:03.22Currydevillots of kittunbags ...
08:03.25Currydeviltons*
08:08.32Nash|327I don't want to buy kittunbags.
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08:37.39________________~8ball is anyone awake?
08:37.39purlI'm not sure.
08:37.45________________Hmm, purl u fail me.
08:37.59________________~fail
08:37.59purlFAIL.
08:38.56________________Question, if ne1 is here: Some models have different variations when they are placed or spawned.. How do I get rid of all variations except 1? or make one variation always show instead of random ones?
08:39.37timecatthere's a variation field
08:39.48timecaton the actor that created the model
08:41.07________________just looked it up and found that as u said it lol
08:41.10________________thx
08:41.18________________fail @ me being lazi and not searching
08:41.29timecatlol i know what you mean
08:43.41timecatits amazing how fast you learn the editor when you're trying to do something it doesn't support
08:44.33________________lol
08:47.56pirateoh god
08:48.01piratewhere is the syntax error?
08:48.11________________~Where is the syntax error?
08:48.12purlI think you lost me on that one, ________________
08:48.19timecatenjoy looking for a missing semicolon
08:48.25________________loool
08:48.26pirateD:
08:48.34piratefml
08:48.40________________~Where is the missing semicolon?
08:48.41purl________________: I think you lost me on that one
08:48.45________________damn her
08:48.49________________she knows nothing
08:49.02________________~purl
08:49.02purlpurl is probably a far prettier chatbot than you.
08:49.11________________~Whois purl
08:49.11purlsomebody said purl was a far prettier chatbot than you.
08:49.25________________~creator
08:49.25purlcreator is probably the guy who made it
08:49.29________________...
08:55.31piratefound it
08:55.40pirategod thats terrofying
08:56.32________________~yay
08:56.33purlYipee!
08:57.43pirate~wtf
08:57.58________________~fail
08:57.58purlFAIL.
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08:58.12pirateit whispered to me
08:58.25________________lol
08:59.31________________~wtf pirate
08:59.53pirate:(
08:59.57________________lol
09:00.39piratehow to people generally navigate their code?
09:00.52piratescroll wheel is no longer effective
09:01.16________________the side bar?
09:01.32pirateis that what youre supposed to do?
09:01.42________________Iguess?
09:01.44________________or use page down
09:01.54piratemmmm
09:01.59________________hmmm, theres no way to trigger events based on model variation is there?
09:02.01piratethats a good one
09:02.09pirate..not directly
09:02.13________________didnt think so
09:02.33________________and "random" is only found in triggers?
09:05.05pirateI think you lost me on that one
09:05.14________________its fine, i moved on
09:05.15________________lol
09:09.25timecatunderscore: there is
09:09.28timecatsend the actor a message
09:09.49________________timecat watchu tlkn bout?
09:10.16timecatSend message (message) to actor (actor)
09:10.26________________no i mean
09:10.30________________wats that in reference to?
09:10.44timecat<PROTECTED>
09:11.20________________thats not an actor or trigger event o.o
09:11.20timecatare you creating an actor model or an actor?
09:11.26________________i was talking about
09:11.35________________making SC II check which model var. im using
09:11.39timecati know
09:11.42________________then do certain actions based on which it is
09:11.49timecatyou gotta save which model its using
09:11.58timecatthen run a switch statement depending on which model its using
09:12.31timecatanother way you could do it
09:12.34________________o ya, i made 2 models instead of doing model variation
09:12.49________________im swapping and applying effects thru triggs
09:12.54timecatis when it changes model, save a value to an integer corrosponding to which model its using
09:13.06timecatthen check the value of that integer
09:15.07pirateis it possible to turn a variable into a string?
09:15.13timecattea
09:15.14timecatyea
09:15.14________________use convert
09:15.15piratethis is hard to explain what I would like tod o...
09:15.16timecatits a conversion
09:15.48timecattry me
09:15.58pirateok
09:17.17pirateI have a function that aligns a fuckload of stats function looks like gf_aligner(fixed lp_HeroStat)
09:18.15piratethe inputted parameter is from this list of consts (ie, WarAttack, WarDefense, RogueAttack, RogueDefense, etc)
09:19.48pirateis there some way I can make it the function work like: gf_alinger( ("lv_CLASS") + ("Attack"))
09:20.03pirateso that I can quickly align text for all them classes
09:20.13piratewithout copying and pasting for each class
09:20.21pirate?
09:21.24timecathave two input parameters
09:22.08pirate..and convert them?
09:22.15timecatwhat type is the input?
09:22.27piratefixed
09:22.46timecatfixed?
09:22.50piratereal
09:22.51timecatoh
09:23.01timecatthere's a convertRealToString function
09:23.25piratethat'll just convert WarAttack to "23" though
09:23.53pirateI basically want to treat variable names like strings, take them apart, and put them back together with combine
09:24.02piratebut have them still work like variables
09:24.03timecatoh just use data tables then
09:24.19timecatthey work exactly how you just said above
09:24.26pirateok
09:24.27timecatyou reference a data value by a string
09:24.32timecatand they can be almost any type
09:24.43timecatpersonally i'm using them as a dynamically allocated array
09:25.49timecatok wtf
09:25.53pirateyes that's exactly what I want to do
09:25.56timecatyou can't have conditions inside a switch function??
09:26.06timecatsigh...
09:26.10pirateill go learn about data tables tomorrow then
09:26.12timecatblizzard you dissappoint me
09:26.17timecatnah they're easy
09:26.33timecatthere's two function for them, save and get value
09:26.39timecateach use a string
09:26.51piratekk
09:27.10piratewell this will save a boatload of time
09:27.18timecatyea they're incredibly useful
09:27.30piratealthough now I have to redo my base stats table
09:27.34piratebut its okay
09:27.59timecatthey're better than using a massive array to store stuff
09:28.11timecatthat if for some reason reaches the end you get data overwrites
09:30.13piratewould it make sense to store player bank data in data table?
09:30.37timecatwell bank data last after the players leave the map right?
09:30.51pirateyeah
09:31.06timecatthe global data table gets destroyed at the end of the map
09:31.19pirateas is, I was going to load bank data, convert to player data array
09:31.29pirateright right
09:31.31piratebut
09:31.54timecatyou could transfer stuff in to the data table and then back out again but i dunno why you'd want to do that
09:32.25piratein my head it seems like a bad idea to constantly be getting from and updating banks
09:32.38timecatyea it is
09:32.58timecatso i guess if you're using the info frequently then you could transfer it to a data table
09:33.12piratecuz I've been using an array
09:33.24timecatand remember the global table dies when the map ends and local tables die at the end of that trigger
09:33.32timecatyea use data tables when possible
09:33.42piraterght
09:33.43piratehokay
09:33.45timecatwell
09:33.52timecatuse them if you don't know how many slots in an array you need
09:33.57timecatotherwise arrays are better
10:23.23Helral|Afktimecat: a switch is a conditional statement on its own. what did you want to do with a condition in it?
10:23.56timecatsomething like
10:23.59timecatswitch{
10:24.02timecaterr
10:24.06timecatswitch(value){
10:24.21timecatvalue > 0: do stuff;
10:24.30timecatvalue > 5: do other stuff;
10:24.31timecat}
10:24.53Helral|Afkthat isnt what switches are for.
10:25.04Helral|Afkwhat you mention are just if statements.
10:25.20Helral|Afkswitch(value){
10:25.25Helral|Afkcase X:
10:25.27timecatthe point of a switch statement is so that you don't need a million if then statements
10:25.30Helral|Afkcase Y:
10:25.33Helral|Afkdefault:
10:25.34timecatok then
10:25.39timecatcase value > 2:
10:25.43timecatyou can do that in c++
10:26.41Helral|Afkwell I can do a =~ /kitten/; in Perl. doesn t mean that other languages know what it means.
10:28.52Helral|Afkwhat you want to do is:
10:28.57Helral|Afkswitch(true){
10:29.04Helral|Afkcase: value>0
10:29.12Helral|Afkcase: value>5
10:29.18Helral|Afkdefault:
10:29.18Helral|Afk}
10:29.29Helral|Afknot switch(value){....
10:29.56Helral|Afkand SC2 can do that.
10:31.05Helral|Afkcause I doubt that C++ could handle what you said with switch(value){case: value>0} would prolly end up saying something like: value is not of type boolean. or case is not of type integer.
10:31.17Nash|327kittuns?
10:31.42Helral|Afktimecat: so in other words, it is possible if you use the correct statement.
10:33.01timecatah
10:33.06Nash|327you can use modulo magic and such though
10:33.10timecatits been a while since i programmed anything in c++
10:33.18timecatstupid core classes getting in the way D:
10:36.53Stewoxhelral|afk
10:37.00Stewoxyou know C# right ?
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10:51.06Nash|327timecat! Travels through time! Wearing a lime, on his head!
10:53.14timecata lime?
10:53.15________________~timecat
10:53.15purli heard timecat is a validator effect
10:53.19timecat^
10:53.21timecatits true i am
10:53.28________________; )
10:53.37timecati'm suprised you remembered that lol
10:53.42Nash|327http://samluce.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/lime-cat.jpg
10:53.46________________nash reminded me
10:54.46Nash|327a bot that remembers things?
10:55.02Nash|327How modern!
10:55.16________________~whois nash|327
10:55.18Helral|AfkStewox: nope but ask away
10:55.28Helral|AfkÑash
10:55.31Helral|Afklol
10:55.33________________~whois nash
10:55.35Helral|Afk~Nash
10:55.39________________booo
10:55.43Helral|AfkNash is not known ;p
10:55.47________________~whois Vash The Stampede
10:55.48Helral|Afkhahaha
10:55.54________________boo
10:56.02Helral|AfkHe s some fella from an anime. ;p
10:56.12________________wish purl knew D:
10:56.13Helral|Afkwhich causes loads of dmg where ever he goes.
10:56.56Nash|327D_D
10:56.56Helral|Afk~________________
10:56.57purl________________ is, like, made of lines and homosexuals
10:57.07Helral|Afkewwww
10:57.12________________~Vash The Stampede is a badass whirlwind of damage and bullets.
10:57.12purlokay, ________________
10:57.23Helral|Afk~Vash
10:57.32Helral|Afk:P
10:57.34________________~whois Vash The Stampede
10:57.34purlhmm... vash the stampede is a badass whirlwind of damage and bullets.
10:57.38________________<PROTECTED>
10:57.47Nash|327________________ thinks fractions are percentages ;G
10:57.59________________haha you remember
10:58.06Helral|Afkroflol
10:58.28Stewoxhelral
10:58.29Stewoxwell
10:58.32Helral|Afkmeow
10:58.34Stewoxmaking a Windows Forms App
10:58.37Helral|Afkmeeooww
10:58.42________________~meow
10:58.42purljbot: woem
10:58.43Stewoxand ... i have no idea
10:58.45Stewoxjust learning
10:58.47Stewoxbut
10:58.49________________~woem
10:58.49purlibot: meow
10:58.51Stewoxit's not that hard
10:59.00________________~hard
10:59.00purlrumour has it, hard is it be question mark?, or woody, or coding me
10:59.02Stewoxi want to create a list box
10:59.12________________~list box
10:59.15Helral|Afkwhich IDE you using?
10:59.17________________~list
10:59.18purlone warez list being sent
10:59.19________________~IDE
10:59.19purlide is, like, for the GUI, but the compiler is not nessesarly compliing a GUI application
10:59.39________________~warez list
10:59.44________________~warez
10:59.44purlmethinks warez is free zaurus warez at http://opie.handhelds.org
10:59.56________________~onoes
11:00.04Nash|327spam
11:00.07________________~spam
11:00.07purlfrom memory, spam is probably a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) and razor.
11:00.25________________:)
11:05.18Mexahttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/aug/02/vilnius-mayor-crackdown-parking-violators
11:05.28timecathaha yea i saw that
11:07.35Nash|327woots
11:07.39HP-X|Arthaswarez.com
11:07.42HP-X|Arthas!
11:07.55HP-X|Arthaslong time since i even heard that word :p
11:08.04Nash|327People with cars are often such entitled douches.
11:08.35Nash|327Or, well, maybe it's just more noticable when people with cars are entitled.
11:09.24________________but every1 has a car o.o
11:09.29timecatmaybe its more noticeable when people are cars with entitlement
11:09.30Helral|Afkmeow
11:09.33Nash|327Also symptomatic of the whole transportation issue as a whole.
11:10.12Nash|327Everyone has their own fucking car, with 1 person in each car and they all want to drive everywhere and park nearby.
11:10.40Nash|327Especially in the US.
11:11.04Nash|327LA area, 6 fucking lanes in each direction full of SUVs.
11:11.05HP-X|ArthasMexa: awesome link
11:11.15Nash|327And 1 carpool lane that's empty.
11:11.28________________nash, do you live in the US?
11:11.32Nash|327No.
11:11.34________________then shut up
11:11.48Nash|327Oh well, back on ignore then.
11:11.57________________Your overdramatics are rediculous
11:11.59HP-X|Arthaswhy? he's not entitled to have an opinion? =p
11:12.17Nash|327Apparently I am not entitled to express my observations either.
11:12.20________________Not when he's dramatizing an issue to a point when hyperbole isnt even funny
11:12.27HP-X|Arthassays who?
11:12.28HP-X|Arthasyou?
11:12.39________________6 lanes, 1 person per car, all SUV's?
11:12.43________________That's just ignorany
11:12.45________________ignorant*
11:12.55timecatyay just scaled 54 models
11:13.01________________lol congrats
11:13.03________________~yay
11:13.03purlYipee!
11:13.33________________hmm i wonder
11:13.40________________~say i can say words
11:13.40purli can say words
11:13.43________________oo nice
11:14.16Nash|327This from the guy who adamantly argues that fractions are percentages and attempts to use google results on how to convert between the two as "proof".
11:14.33________________Nash, I thought you had me on ignore?
11:14.53Nash|327Oh, google proves me wrong, don't admit you're wrong, attempt to pass it off as support for claims instead.
11:15.26________________Ah, I see you havn't ignored me. Then allow me to rebut;
11:16.10tampa1adamso i have a trigger that fires when u unload units from a medivac
11:16.17________________I proved to you that they are synonymous with articles and web pages and definitions saying just that, however, you refused to accept it clinging to "LoL your own google proves me right"
11:16.25tampa1adamworks fine with unload all, but u can click the unit in the medivac and it will unload and my trigger doesnt fire
11:16.30________________weak nash, weak
11:16.34tampa1adamhow do i go about fixing this
11:16.36________________get over that argument, u lost
11:17.04________________wats the event trigger?
11:17.18tampa1adam<PROTECTED>
11:17.29tampa1adamthat works for when i use "unload all" on the medivac
11:17.34________________o u have it set to the spec. ability
11:17.53________________use um
11:17.58________________unit loads/unloads cargo
11:18.00________________that should work
11:18.22Nash|327obviously it won't work if you don't use unload all
11:18.36Nash|327when you have an event for just unload all and nothing else :G
11:18.42________________nash ysomean?
11:18.47tampa1adamrofl didnt notice that event trigger
11:18.51tampa1adamthx
11:18.52________________;)
11:18.54________________np
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11:21.29Jum-JumWhat does the "initially created" checkbox do?
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12:00.22Helral|Afkmeow
12:03.16EiviynThe car thingy you linked with the mayer running over the car was fake
12:03.29EiviynWas done for a TV show called 99 things to do before you die
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12:06.06helral_mobileMeow
12:06.30________________oo mobile
12:06.33________________mobile meow
12:06.44helral_mobileMeeoooowwwww
12:07.49helral_mobile:)
12:08.19________________~:)
12:08.19purlwell, :) is honeypea
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12:11.30helral_mobileMeow
12:13.41helral_mobileWhen did they disable the trigger debugger on bnet?
12:14.00________________when u meow'd
12:14.05________________no jk, iono
12:14.47helral_mobileNeh it still worked after I meowed during beta
12:15.13________________been meowin a long time ic o.o
12:15.28Helral|Afklonger then sc2 is alive.
12:15.49Helral|Afkstill easier to type using the keyboard then the mobile.
12:16.00________________ofc
12:16.02Helral|Afkallthough my mobile does fix my typos
12:16.07________________lol
12:16.19________________is it an app or r u just on ur browser?
12:16.25Helral|Afkapp :)
12:16.29________________oic
12:16.32Helral|AfkAndChat
12:17.12________________~hax
12:17.13purlwell, hax is cool! he gives me scooby snacks and botsex!
12:17.20________________~hacks
12:17.29________________~hacking
12:17.32________________~hack
12:17.35________________~zomg
12:17.35purlzomg is probably making fun of internet people
12:18.53Helral|Afkat least you didn't type my nickname yet :)
12:19.32________________~Helral
12:19.32purlfrom memory, helral is an evil ethereal random kitten who must not be let near laser pens.
12:19.42________________~laser pen
12:19.46________________o noooooooooooooo
12:19.50________________laser pens are ghosts
12:21.00Helral|Afkare they?
12:21.15Helral|Afk~laser pen
12:21.15purli heard laser pen is something to be kept away from helral at all cost.
12:21.29Helral|Afkmeows innocently
12:22.06________________HHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAXXX
12:22.09________________o.o
12:22.11________________*scared*
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12:23.34________________~already something else
12:23.34purli guess already something else is already something else!
12:25.40helral_mobileScarred?
12:26.34helral_mobileWhat scarred you?
12:28.12Helral|Afkit's quiet here....
12:28.23Helral|Afkwhere did everyone go to...
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12:32.31MexaWorking
12:32.32MexaBai
12:52.38RndmObjctsanyone mind testing this boss fight for me? ive made a button so you dont have to play the entire game but just skip to the first boss fight and try and kill it.
12:52.45Agoution?
12:52.49RndmObjctsjust need more input on how easy/hard it is
12:52.53RndmObjctsUS
12:53.11Agoutiask in about 45min or so
12:53.23________________yup, when im asleep
12:53.25RndmObjctsif im still on i'll look you up :)
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13:07.20Nash|327gah have to do terrain
13:07.27Nash|327terrainers keep leaving
13:09.07SlepeeHi Nash.
13:09.34Nash|327KITTUNS
13:10.04SlepeeWe have been over this. :P It is pointless to resume that debate. :P
13:10.32Nash|327There is no debate.
13:10.36Nash|327Only KITTUNS
13:11.04SlepeeSo, what do you think you spend most time on: Making maps for SC2? Or playing SC2.
13:11.06RndmObjctsnash you should test this boss for me >.>
13:13.07Nash|327D_D
13:13.15Nash|327like I don't have enough to do
13:14.05RndmObjctsalright, thanks anway :D
13:14.10RndmObjctsanyway*
13:20.00SlepeeAnyone else using XChat client?
13:43.11RndmObjctsAgouti: still up for testing it?
13:45.20DogmaiHelral|Afk: oi
13:45.44Dogmaihelral_mobile: oi
13:48.59Helral|Afkmeow
13:49.56helral_mobileMeow
13:51.12helral_mobileHow you doing dogmai?
13:54.14Dogmaigood mate
13:54.20Dogmaii need some help if you have some free time
13:54.24Dogmaijust putting the finishing touches on tofu
13:54.39AgoutiRndmObjcts: I can test now
13:54.51RndmObjctsAgouti: alright awesome :D
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13:55.14AgoutiSlepee: The *only* time I play sc2 is testing maps.
13:55.20Agoutithere is your answer :P
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13:58.10Dogmaihelral_mobile: when would you be free to sit down with me for about 15 mins to discuss some UI stuff mate
13:58.23RndmObjctsAgouti: ok its uploaded, its called "Zeratul's Bloody Palace" when you enter you can either go to the learning area then play the whole thing, start on the first level and play threw or for this testing just hit the first boss area button and go straight to the first boss but i suggest going to the learning area first and then reading the abilitys then restarting and going to the boss fight
13:58.47burne-tofuuuu
13:59.45RndmObjctsAgouti: i just need to know if its too easy or too hard, in the released version you will have full hp charges and cooldowns when getting to the first boss so its practical.
13:59.57Agoutihow many people do you need
14:00.04RndmObjctsAgouti:  its single player
14:00.07Agoutiah
14:00.08Agoutiok
14:01.02helral_mobileDogmai: 2hours or so. @work now.
14:01.48burne-damn you heral
14:02.05burne-I needed to learn UI layout files from tutorials since you werent here :(
14:02.21burne-still not sure if I know how to do it right, but Im not even sure what I want to make
14:02.33RndmObjctsAgouti: the timer wont start for this, its just a test area so i left it out, its irrelevant to the cause.
14:03.02burne-rofl RndmObjcts you still having problems with same issue? :D
14:03.06RndmObjctsnope
14:03.10RndmObjcts:)
14:03.51RndmObjctsjust letting him know why the dialog says "timer:" and is empty. hes testing my first boss for me
14:04.09burne-k
14:04.29helral_mobileBurne: you could always send me a pm on sc2mapster.
14:05.10RndmObjctsburne-:  i can help with your ui stuff if you want, after hours of nash helping me i can pretty much do anything i want with the ui, given its possible.
14:05.22burne-no need atm
14:05.26helral_mobileOr post in the UI forum on sc2mapater. :p
14:05.46burne-I was wondering how to separete the unit health thingy from the weapon damage thingy
14:06.01helral_mobileTyping on my mobile tales some practise.
14:06.18helral_mobileTakes*
14:06.24Agoutifirst criticism: Through, not threw ;)
14:06.29burne-I kinda want to modify my UI alot so its hard to even ask all the right questions
14:06.34RndmObjctsAgouti: xD
14:08.15helral_mobileBurne: step 1 read my tutorial :)
14:11.44Agoutii'll go into PM RndmObjcts
14:11.52RndmObjctsAgouti: ok
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14:22.42Dogmaiburne-: have you seen my UI?
14:22.44Dogmaihow advanced that is
14:22.50Dogmaiand I still need help from helral!
14:22.53Dogmai:D
14:23.10burne-to tell the truth many people are impressed by it, but im not since it really doesnt matter to me
14:23.30burne-as long as it functions well I dont care if the UI looks like a turd
14:23.46Dogmailol
14:27.55burne-but carry on..I wana see the map still ^^
14:45.28burne-AND SO THE BLADE SHALL FALL
14:45.36burne-PLOT THICKENS
14:45.45burne-I give a cookie for the one who knows what im talking about
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14:55.43ZanryuCookies !!!
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15:19.13Wiz10011Yo. whats the diablo website Sixen runs?
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15:33.32Wiz10011So anyone going to listen in to that Activision-Blizzard Investor call conference?
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15:56.30Vailrethhello
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16:02.45Wiz10011Hello
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16:16.34Nash|327http://imgur.com/a/Z00aa#FTZgo I have done some terrain D:
16:16.54Wiz10011NO WAY!
16:17.33Nash|327need to know if it's passable
16:17.46Nash|327I suck at terrain, alas.
16:17.57Wiz10011need more dead bodies!
16:17.58Nash|327But all my terrainers keep disappearing.
16:18.01Wiz10011and moreblood!
16:18.41Agoutinash
16:18.42Wiz10011honestly though, it looks good.
16:18.45Agoutii bring
16:18.47AgoutiA KITTUN
16:18.47Agoutihttp://filesmelt.com/dl/2eziuit.gif
16:19.08Nash|327banetuns
16:19.13Agouti:D
16:19.18Nash|327Humanity is DOOMED
16:19.44AgoutiCUTE, FLUFFY DOOM
16:20.43Wiz10011http://www.damnlol.com/nyan-cat-tastes-good-4038.html
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16:28.30Ashamedahhh
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17:04.27Vailrethi will now unleash my BattleCry.....SPOOON!!....Amanda
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17:22.01Vailrethanybody alive?
17:22.39SlepeeHi Vail.
17:23.15JademusSregI awaken.
17:23.42helral_mobileNope nobody is alive here. We're all undead.
17:24.06Vailrethyeah i feel like the undead my self
17:25.12SlepeeIt's true you know, I want to Hell, found it kind of dull, then pulled a Jesus and here I am... a wicked soul in a mortal shell. Still ... wish I had been faster about it ... rigor mortis already occured.
17:25.51Vailrethhmm
17:26.34JademusSregThat would be awesome if I were gullible and religious. I mean, just gullible. =D
17:27.20Helral|Afkhmmmmm I think I remember some sod who was acting like a goodie3shoes. kicked him back up.
17:27.29SlepeeI know. Perhaps someone else would be dumb enough to believe me.
17:27.38SlepeeCool story though.
17:27.52JademusSregHah.
17:28.22SlepeeThen tell me a cool (true) story.
17:28.25SlepeeNot so easy.
17:28.33JademusSregIt is for me.
17:28.52SlepeeI can barely contain my excitement.
17:29.54JademusSregI was lounging around a local late night establishment, Perkins, because I was homeless at the time (which is a nexus of entertaining stories), living out of my car.
17:30.56JademusSregMy girlfriend called and roused me from my sulking, drowsed state, napping in out of the booths.
17:32.03JademusSregShe asked why I wasn't at the party? I didn't realize she wajnted me there. So I set off, driving as safely as one would expect a homeless, drowsy, excited young man to drive.
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17:32.13tordyyo waddddup
17:32.29JademusSregThrough the poorly lit streets of Knoxville my shitty little red car sped.
17:33.04JademusSregSqueeling and shuddering, popping and groaning, the frame more like the rotting flesh of a zombuie than a car.
17:33.48JademusSregAs I ran iover the train tracks into the old district of town, I hit the rails at 40 miles per hour. My brakes had long since burned away, my emergency brake worn and spent.
17:34.19Nash|327http://i.imgur.com/bgPX1.jpg
17:34.30JademusSregI crashed over the train tracks, the entire car shook, the sound of screeching metal and shattering class filled my head.
17:34.54JademusSregThe car lurched to a stop at a quiet 4 way intersection.
17:35.09JademusSregA homeless man on a bike cycled over and asked if I needed any help.
17:35.36JademusSregI looked around, looked back at the car, where the front of the car had fallen off and become wedghed beneath the front busted tires.
17:35.54JademusSreg"No, I'm already where I need to be." I said and walked into the bar and joined the party.
17:35.56JademusSregThe End.
17:36.08Vailrethnice
17:36.13Vailreth* claps*
17:36.27SlepeeLike a boss. :> Srsly.
17:36.35Slepeeeff the car
17:36.47JademusSregI left that car there, too. Haha.
17:37.33SlepeeI just wonder where in the world you find a girlfriend if you are homeless.
17:37.45SlepeeOn the streets I guess. :P
17:38.14SlepeeAt least you had someone.
17:38.28JademusSregGot all my stuff out, slept in a nice motel that night, and the next day The Author offered me a place to stay. But her generosity and my time there is a nother story.
17:39.08SlepeeYou've proven your point.
17:39.35JademusSregI met the girlfriend, now wife, before my roommates asked me to leave.
17:39.38JademusSreg<3
17:39.38SlepeeAnd I need to eat. Thanks for that little piece of life I can add to my perverted imagination.
17:39.44JademusSregHah.
17:40.03JademusSregI am a rake and a scoundrel, by natural inclination.
17:40.08Vailrethi lead a boring empty life
17:40.31SlepeeI am with Vail on that one.
17:40.52SlepeeSolipsism, is sad and lonely, but preferable to the alternatives.
17:41.01SlepeeEAT
17:41.03Slepeel8r
17:41.05JademusSregHah.
17:41.28Vailrethany way the max hero icons allowed on screen appears to be 8
17:41.46JademusSregDunno. How do the layout files look in that regard?
17:42.29Vailrethnot sure but i have nine heroes and only 8 icons show on scree. so for the moment it appears 8 is the max they let draw
17:43.09JademusSregIt's either determined in the layout files or it is hardcoded, or a bit of both.
17:43.44Vailrethi think i looked at the layoutfile before and saw entries for i think 10 buttons.
17:43.59Vailrethbut that was an older file from patches agp
17:44.03Vailrethago*
17:45.42Vailrethare there any other good rts games out there now other than SC2 really ...
17:45.56Vailrethrecent ones i mean
17:54.07tordyhow recent
17:54.17tordy2010+?
17:54.46Vailreth09 10
17:56.26azkhmmm blizzard investor call
17:57.44Vailrethlater folks having a nap
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18:10.59JademusSregNice terrain Nash.
18:11.50JademusSregDo those models have walkability plains or are they supported by an invisible model like a bridge?
18:11.58JademusSreg*planes
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18:21.03Nash|327invisible mar sara bridge
18:21.12JademusSregAh, just how I do it. =D
18:35.36Nash|327JademusSreg: http://imgur.com/a/Z00aa#FTZgo
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18:37.47JademusSregThe first screenshot is troubling. Large homogenous plate texture, and brick temple walls. Besides that, they look good.
18:38.19Nash|327alas I am restricted to the available cliff types :/
18:38.34Shadow_KillerGet someone to model new cliffs for you.
18:38.37JademusSregTerrain Texture Sets permit up to 4 different cliff types. How many are you using?
18:38.48Nash|327up to 4?
18:38.51JademusSregYes.
18:38.57Nash|327MAGIC!
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18:40.05JademusSregThat limit is hardcoded, like the texture limit. 4 cliffs, 8 textures. Can't use manual editing to get around it, either. =D
18:40.39JademusSregAlso, hi Shadow.
18:40.47JademusSregIt's unlike you to speak in the main channel.
18:45.12Vailrethhello again good peoples
18:45.22JademusSregHi.
18:49.24Vailrethnothing kile soaking down and sitting infront of the marginally functional air conditioning to help beat the heat
18:49.48Vailrether like
18:56.44Nash|327time to see what the 4 cliff wizardry is all about
18:56.58Nash|327since my terrainers all go AWOL or quit ;G
18:57.25JademusSregHaha, flakey.
18:58.10Vailrethi love using my tablet instead of an ordinary mouse, switching to the pen makes it so much more fun to lay down textures
18:58.11Nash|327I've done data, triggers, UI, game design, image assets and now I'm stuck with terrain too :G
18:59.09Vailrethouch
19:00.04Shadow_KillerWhen it's about models I will speak, else I pretty much got nothing to say, also Hi Owen.
19:02.03Nash|327is there an image showing all the different cliffs?
19:02.41Shadow_KillerDoubt that, theres around 300 of them.
19:03.04JademusSregHah.
19:03.41JademusSregYou have 2 cliff sets per terrain texture set.
19:03.59Shadow_KillerYeah, if you combine them all theres 300 of them. :D
19:05.39Nash|327CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFFS
19:05.48Nash|327Google images is not helpful :/
19:06.16Nash|327Wiki has textures but not cliffs
19:06.18JademusSreg24 texture sets, 48 cliff sets, most of which are similar to one another.
19:07.35Shadow_KillerYeah, I'm guessing all the dirt cliffs use the same models.
19:07.41JademusSregThere's Installation, Metal, Concrete, Rock, and Brick cliff types, iirc.
19:07.51Shadow_KillerEach set might have some unique ones.
19:07.56JademusSregAnd the 48 cliff sets are variations on these.
19:08.35Nash|327Braxis is too blue
19:09.12Shadow_KillerI'm not arguin with you, just saying theres around 300 models.
19:09.30JademusSregI know. =D
19:13.54Vailrethmake new cliffs??
19:14.31burne-recipeeeeeeeeeeeee system....done!
19:14.40burne-atleast almost
19:15.17burne-I wonder if people are gona hate me
19:15.27burne-since I made my recipe system better from sotis
19:15.30burne-atleast I tried
19:15.46Nash|327people like to hate others for no real reason
19:15.52Nash|327so yeah
19:25.23Nash|327JademusSreg
19:25.27Nash|327I added 2 more cliffs
19:25.33Nash|327no show yet
19:25.40Nash|327Do I need to restart editor?
19:26.46JademusSregYes.
19:26.50JademusSregOr..
19:27.04JademusSregYou set the Terrain Texture Set in Map -> Map Textures
19:27.13JademusSregYou reselect the same terrain texture set.
19:27.58JademusSregThwe same procedure for refreshing after changing texture set blend textures.
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19:29.14Nash|327using Tyrador cliffs now
19:31.45Motiveslaps JademusSreg around a bit with a large trout
19:35.54JademusSreg=D
19:36.43JademusSregSeen this Motive? http://i.imgur.com/gIdNB.jpg
19:37.03JademusSregToday I'm working on the vote resolution.
19:48.04Vailrethhttp://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ the keyboard i want
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20:17.34Ashamedbusy day ><
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20:30.08Stewox~sbeier
20:30.12Stewox~beier
20:30.25Stewox~seen sbeier
20:30.29purlsbeier <5e65d936@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.101.217.54> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 6d 6h 2m 3s ago, saying: 'Hello'.
20:30.29Stewox~seen beier
20:30.29purlbeier <5e65d936@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.101.217.54> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 3h 5m 17s ago, saying: 'Hello'.
20:30.38Stewoxlol
20:32.19Wiz10011So Stewox, How goes thee passionate love making with plasmaHH?
20:32.56Wiz10011Wonder if they are going to release any SC2 news with this press conference call.
20:32.59Stewoxstill banned :p
20:33.09Stewoxwhen is conference call ?
20:33.12Wiz10011Now.
20:33.15Stewoxlink ?
20:33.18Stewoxstream ?
20:33.27Wiz10011http://investor.activision.com/
20:33.37Stewoxlah indeed
20:33.40Stewoxtnx
20:34.00Wiz10011most likely diablo beta date should be given during this call.
20:34.17Wiz10011according to Sixen's Diablofans.com website.
20:35.57Stewoxwhen it did started ?
20:36.03SixenWe're streaming a live podcast about it right now, talking about the call, and we'll switch to the call in our strem
20:36.04Wiz100112 minutes ago.
20:36.05Sixenhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM9Ye_s6A8w&feature=channel_video_title
20:36.17Sixenso you don't have to listen to the boringness
20:36.27Wiz10011Im used to the boringness.
20:36.32Stewoxgreat sixen  
20:36.43Wiz10011remember the conference when they annouced the SC2 beta.
20:37.15Wiz10011your going to post your livecast online later right?
20:37.21JademusSregReminds me of Jonah Hill right now.
20:37.38JademusSregIt sounds like Jonah Hill is talking about diablo 3.
20:38.24Sixen:P
20:38.36JademusSregI like Jonah Hill though. <3
20:38.50Wiz10011GREAT! later...
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20:38.55Wiz10011I got to bounce soon too.
20:38.55StewoxQ3
20:39.00azkhttp://paidcontent.org/images/editorial/_original/bobby-kotick-o.jpg this man is talking
20:39.04Stewox:D :D :D
20:39.22Stewoxis this sound of bobby kotick ?
20:39.26Stewoxi think it's not him
20:39.35azkshe introduced him as bobby kotick
20:39.36Wiz10011Nah, chris something
20:39.45StewoxSHE
20:39.48Wiz10011Thought it was Chris something that was introduced.
20:39.56Stewoxbobby kotick is HE
20:40.04Stewoxand bobby is older and fatter
20:40.08Wiz10011A female introduced who's currently talking...
20:40.12Stewoxthis guy sounds younger and thinner
20:40.18Stewoxoh
20:40.23Wiz10011the female that read the terms of service at the beginning...
20:40.25Wiz10011FAILURE
20:40.54Wiz10011Oh it was bobby...
20:41.07Nash|327JademusSreg D:
20:41.09Nash|327http://i.imgur.com/2cbmu.jpg
20:41.27azkoooo, that reminds me of crusader
20:41.37Nash|327dunno what to do about texture, though
20:43.48JademusSregLooking better. What terrain textures do you have?
20:43.52Shadow_KillerThose cliffs don't really match with that terrain texture.
20:44.41JademusSregYou can use a light brush to put on some dirt and sand, as though it has been tracked over the plates, and you can you a hard, small brush to paint over individual sections of plate tiles.
20:45.09JademusSreg*you can use
20:46.02Nash|327I have Aiur Dirt, Mar Sara Dirt, those panels, Zhakul'Das Mercury Cracks
20:46.12Nash|327Haven rock something
20:46.29Nash|327Aiur Grass
20:46.38Nash|327Aiur small tiles and large tiles
20:46.54Wiz10011Bungie universe?
20:46.57JademusSregSome Aiur dirt, then, over areas where traffic might have tracked irt.
20:47.03Wiz10011TIME TO THEE GOOGLE!
20:47.39Nash|327oh well, that's a problem for another time
20:48.15Nash|327also need to redo an arena partially because Dresnia used a doodad door instead of a unit one
20:49.19JademusSregHaha.
20:49.23Nash|327that or create the equivalent door as a cardinal unit
20:49.31Nash|327and then blow it up
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20:53.15AshamedNO
20:53.26AshamedU
20:59.53DresniaI told it was a temporary doodad
20:59.57Dresniasame as the lava bridge
21:00.03Dresniathat we needed to look into it afterwards
21:00.03Dresnia:x
21:00.44Nash|327yeah, but someone has to do it now
21:00.53Nash|327that someone is me ;P
21:01.00Dresnia:D
21:01.34Nash|327http://i.imgur.com/bgPX1.jpg
21:01.41Nash|327IT'S ALIVE
21:03.34Nash|327also made 15th arena http://i.imgur.com/2cbmu.jpg
21:03.54StewoxMARK MORHIME ON INVESTOR CALL NOW!
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21:07.25Nash|327also added craploads of pathing block :G
21:07.34Nash|327and new shiny cliffs
21:07.46Nash|327so pretty productive day
21:08.00JademusSregSame.
21:08.10JademusSregI've got half of the voting handled so far.
21:09.22Nash|327Someone should make a map that shows you cute kittuns.
21:09.34Nash|327And you can vote which kittun is cutest.
21:09.39Nash|327Then everyone wins.
21:09.46Wiz10011ILL GET RIGHT ON THAT!
21:09.56Nash|327Because they got to see cute kittuns, which certainly counts as victory.
21:10.07Wiz10011I'll also put some type of way if it detects nash in the map, a special option will be added. Kittuns in bags!
21:10.35Nash|327Good.
21:11.25Wiz10011Q3 ends september right?
21:12.04Nash|327Q3
21:12.10Nash|327Quake 3
21:12.21Wiz10011No, quarter 3= yearly
21:12.24DeaodQ4 starts with October
21:12.40Wiz10011So yea september is the last month of Q3.
21:12.44Nash|327You know the months, right?
21:12.46Deaodyeah
21:12.53Wiz10011Nah nash, What are the months?
21:13.27Nash|327http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Month#Julian_and_Gregorian_calendars
21:13.34StewoxGoldman Sachs owns Activision shares
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21:14.19StewoxBlack Ops Sold 25 Million units
21:14.23Mexahi
21:14.31Nash|327IT IS A MEXA
21:14.39JademusSreg=D
21:14.43MexaIt be nashudun1
21:14.47Mexa*!!!
21:14.54Stewoxyou guys listening to ATVI conference call ?
21:14.56MexaAnd Jademüsli!
21:15.07Wiz10011yea
21:15.13MexaThe what?
21:15.25Wiz10011Activision /blizzard Q2 conference call.
21:15.37Stewoxhttp://investor.activision.com/eventdetail.cfm
21:16.01Mexa"Details on this event are not available."
21:16.25Nash|327I has a sleepy
21:16.52Mexabye there
21:17.36Nash|327WHERE?
21:17.55Nash|327Mexa you want ponies.
21:17.58Stewoxhttp://investor.activision.com/
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21:18.22MexaMeh
21:18.25MexaI have to register
21:18.30MexaI don't have time for that right now
21:18.43MexaNash, what kind of ponies?
21:18.59Nash|327http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29966228/16222%20-%20artist%20megasweet%20twilight_sparkle%20wallpaper.png
21:19.19Mexa;P
21:19.23MexaToo pink
21:19.28Nash|327There are 6, one for each pony ;G
21:19.34MexaI'd go for a rainbow dash
21:19.39MexaMore possibly
21:19.44Nash|327http://dl.dropbox.com/u/29966228/16221%20-%20artist%20megasweet%20rainbow_dash%20wallpaper.png
21:20.00Mexavery clean and nice indeed
21:20.07MexaWhere did you find them?
21:20.19Nash|327Equestria Daily
21:20.24Mexaah
21:20.37MexaOh yeah, I haven't been on that for a long while
21:20.43JademusSregHah
21:21.05MexaJademus, you should watch the show with your daughter :D
21:21.23JademusSregPonies?
21:21.26Mexayush
21:21.30Nash|327They had link to some guys poniburu or whatever the site is called.
21:21.34MexaIt's not ordinary ponies
21:21.53Nash|327Which had a lot of... Not Safe for Ponies content.
21:21.57MexaJademus, do you recon Lauren Faust?
21:22.09Nash|327Fortunately most of it wasn't shown unless you click.
21:22.10Mexalol nash.
21:22.14JademusSregWho?
21:22.29MexaCreator of powerpuff and fosters
21:22.34Mexaor whatever they are called
21:22.47MexaQuite frankly, she made the ponies so much more enjoyable
21:23.10MexaSince she knows how to write good scripts without letting it become girly and fancy there uuuh barbie there.
21:23.34Mexaor whatever xD
21:24.01MexaAnd Nash will concurr
21:24.14Mexa*concur
21:24.21Nash|327http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOVDu7etQlc
21:24.23Deaodhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1HZp4ClFXY
21:24.24Nash|327cupcakes!
21:25.00Wiz10011I foresee them do putting in that E-balance form Diablo 3 together with the marketplace.
21:25.09Mexalol Deaod
21:25.12Deaodhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MTLtt7pWKc
21:25.20MexaGotta say the sc2 dub is still my favorite
21:29.08Deaodi dont know how i manage to find most of the shit i post here
21:29.29Deaodtoo much time, probably
21:29.37Mexa:P
21:30.03JademusSregI doubt I will watch ponies any time soon.
21:30.12Mexahaha
21:30.44MexaThe show is better than you think, just sayin'
21:30.53MexaThen again, your more 'adult' than I am
21:30.59Mexa*you're
21:31.09Nash|327Did you see the Colbert report's shout out to all the bronies?
21:31.17Mexanope
21:31.18JademusSregNaw, I'm not "more adult" or whatever.
21:31.31MexaJAdemus, well, you have a family, kids
21:31.32Nash|327http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8WrKIvSEWI
21:31.37MexaAnd is older
21:32.04Mexalol Nash
21:32.59JademusSregI dislike frilly pink stuff as much as I dislike macho explosion stuff. Silly gender role crap.
21:33.00Nash|327Mexa, stop insulting Jadeface D:
21:33.18MexaD:
21:33.28MexaNot of any intentions
21:33.51Nash|327Well, the nice thing about this show is that all the characters are female, yet they are not helpless and they aren't all "girly".
21:33.59JademusSregHm.
21:34.21Nash|327It's not perfect, but it's way better than a lot of other crap when it comes to gender roles.
21:34.33Mexa^
21:35.30MexaManypickles, afk for abit
21:37.15Nash|327Twilight is smart and determined, Applejack is strong and hard-working, and Rainbow Dash is sort of a "kick ass and take names" pony.
21:38.59Deaodtheyre still all ponies.
21:39.28Nash|327Well yeah.
21:39.34Nash|327It's a show about ponies.
21:40.18Deaodthink a boy would watch that show?
21:40.30Nash|327Yes.
21:44.00Vailretha boy that likes girls?
21:44.09Deaodlol
21:44.44Vailrethit has to be asked
21:44.49Deaodactually, not sure how to interpret that question.
21:45.06Vailrethok i will rephase
21:45.10Nash|327boys like girls?
21:45.36Vailrethive liked girls since i was born
21:45.53Vailrethhell the first time i propsed to one was in the first grade
21:46.43Nash|327Doesn't mean you had sexual desires or even understood the implications.
21:47.01Nash|327Just influenced by TV's romantic ideals.
21:47.13JademusSregYes, statistics demonstrate that marriage is most effective at ensuring couples are happily divorced.
21:47.38Vailrethno i knew what i wanted even back then
21:47.40Deaodseeing how divorce require previous marriage
21:47.49Deaodthat is not at all surprising Sreg
21:48.06Nash|327You wanted to get married in first grade?
21:48.16JademusSregThat is the joke, Deaod. Congrats. =D
21:48.46Nash|327Deaod is the Anti-Joke Chicken.
21:48.52JademusSregHah.
21:48.56Deaodhrmpf.
21:49.02Vailrethyou were right about not understanding the implication and such at that age but i now realize what i wanted...
21:49.23Vailrethhell by fourth grade and known what sex was i was trying to score with my sicence teahcer
21:49.39Deaodinteresting
21:49.50Vailrethi am sure it was very akward for her being hit on by a fourth grader and her student as well]
21:50.15Nash|327You are odd.
21:50.28JademusSregAll kinds of hilarious.
21:50.29Vailrethive always been a lusty guy
21:50.42Nash|327I've never been a lusty guy.
21:50.45JademusSregVail, have you had much success in that capacity?
21:50.52Vailrethnone at all
21:51.00JademusSregDoubly comical;.
21:51.17Vailrethnot from lack of trying or even lack of oppritunity
21:51.46Vailrethi have highblood pressure and the meds i take for that and a few other things  mean i cant actually indulge physically
21:52.03Deaodouch
21:52.27Nash|327I never had to suffer through that stage where guys start to check out girls, have girlfriends, awkward attempts at intimacy, whatever.
21:52.32Vailrethwell i CAN but it could cause a stroke or heart attack... or possible anurism
21:53.07Nash|327Ah, the joys of low testosterone levels.
21:54.19Vailrethid love to have the joys of low tempreature levels
21:55.06Vailrethi had to take the side pannel off of my tower to help it vent enough to keep the fans at a dull roar
21:55.30azkgo aqua
21:55.35Nash|327Turn computer off. 20% cooler!
21:56.50MexaDeaod, btw, it may still be a show about ponies, but you'd be surprised what the internet statistics have to say about it.
21:57.01Vailrethhttp://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/vailreth/CIMG0459.jpg
21:57.12Deaodwell, Mexa, the internet is a weird place
21:57.39Nash|327People are weird.
21:57.41Deaodand that show scores well with young girls and yound adult males
21:57.56Deaodone of those groups is their intended audience
21:58.01Mexabetween the age of 15-25
21:58.11Deaodi leave it to you to figure out which
21:58.39Nash|327I'm 27. MORE PONIES!
21:58.50MexaIt's obviously probaby not meant to have become this way, but if you read what Faust say about it (the creator) you'd see another perspective
21:59.31Deaodwell, i havent read what she has to say about this
22:00.14JademusSregLove her name, though.
22:00.24Nash|327It's no more strange than watching animated movies.
22:00.36Nash|327They are for kids, in theory.
22:00.46Deaodno.
22:00.50Deaodnot all
22:01.20Nash|327Well, they are for kids but also contain references and jokes only adults will pick up on.
22:02.14MexaIt's what you pick to think about the show. It contains ponies... yeah, it's not about them being ponies
22:02.20MexaThat's not why you watch it
22:02.23Mexa.-.
22:02.25Mexaor I
22:02.38JademusSregHaha
22:04.06Nash|327It's lighthearted, funny and cute. And part of the show is intended for adults. Like animated movies, pretty much.
22:04.13MexaAs much as Teeworlds isn't aimed for 'older' people by reality, Jademus
22:04.32MexaBut I enjoy playing it, and on the sideeffect, it happends to be cute
22:04.51JademusSregHaha, cuteness doesn't bother me.
22:05.00JademusSregThough I quickly get bored of playing Teeworlds.
22:05.01Nash|327I spend so much time brutally murdering people in video games, I don't need to watch brutal murders in every TV show too.
22:05.12MexaJademus, yeah I know, it does
22:05.22MexaI've been using it as a timekiller lately
22:05.25DeaodNash, i just dont watch tv, problem solved
22:05.40Nash|327Well I don't watch TV, I watch Internets.
22:05.41Deaodnothing worthwhile on there, anyway
22:05.55Deaodand everthings in fricken german.
22:06.01Nash|327haha
22:06.07Mexa... and stupid enough, the timekilling habits have tend to become addictive .__
22:06.10*** join/#sc2mapster Cintiq (~cintiq@182-239-132-158.ip.adam.com.au)
22:06.53Nash|327I can play a good game 8 hours a day.
22:07.17Vailrethi cant play a game for more than two hours period
22:07.22Nash|327But games that are meh and I just play because I have nothing better to do I tire of quickly.
22:07.24Vailrethat a time any way
22:07.33MexaDeaod, I pity you have to watch dubs whenever there's something on tv in germany ;o
22:07.40Nash|32730 minutes, then I shut it off.
22:07.51MexaAnything foreign more or less, huh?
22:08.01Deaodyeah
22:08.05JademusSregWhen I need a break, I play Photon Cycles. Easy to pick up and play.
22:08.14*** join/#sc2mapster Frall (Frall@h-85-189.a212.priv.bahnhof.se)
22:08.17Nash|327Way to handicap your entire population!
22:08.19Vailrethhah
22:08.28JademusSregI'd play Terraria, but I played it to death, completely burned out.
22:08.40Deaodi think only MTV broadcasts with german subtitles
22:08.44MexaSeems to be very common in italy, france, spain, germany and possiubly greece
22:08.49Nash|327Learn English? BAH!
22:08.49Deaodand even that only some of the time
22:09.05Vailrethhmm need to figure out a couple more extended attributes
22:09.08Nash|327WE ARE ZEE ÜBERMENSCH, SOON ALL SHALL SPEAK GERMAN!
22:09.11Deaodalso, movies in theaters are dubbed
22:09.13MexaJademus, I guess you need a new patch with new content ;P
22:09.24MexaDeaod, darn ._.
22:09.25Deaodwhich annoys the hell out of me
22:09.35JademusSregYes, new patch please.
22:09.39MexaYeah, I'd be annoyed too..
22:10.32Deaodit doesnt help that most of the dubs are awful
22:10.42Deaodoh, yeah, they also dub all the games
22:10.58MexaIsh, not even that is fun in swedish
22:11.12Deaodand dont bother to include english audio
22:11.21MexaThe only thing worth dubbing for is disney cartoons
22:11.34MexaAs of what I have seen, the value is still great, at least swedish dubs
22:11.42Nash|327I learnt English from watching TV and reading subtitles. To not be able to do that is a massive handicap.
22:12.03DeaodNash, we learn english from first grade nowadays
22:12.08MexaNash, gogo play Diablo 1 in swedish please
22:12.16Mexad_d
22:12.20Nash|327First grade, not good enough.
22:12.26Deaodnot in my days though, i started with grade 5
22:12.55MexaNash, learning english about the age of 6-7 not good enough?
22:13.02Mexa*at
22:13.04Nash|327No.
22:13.28Nash|327And school is shit for learning anyway.
22:13.51Nash|327I could speak English before I even started school.
22:14.08MexaCool story bro' ;o
22:14.21Deaodahhh, the advantages of speaking a language only a few million people speak
22:14.23Ashamedinternets is skool now
22:14.34Nash|327You learn languages really well at a young age.
22:14.46Nash|3276-7 is too late to start.
22:14.55Nash|327Should start earlier.
22:14.56Deaodyeah, but you need exposure to the language
22:15.17Deaodtheres no way kids will get exposed to english here
22:16.08Nash|327You can learn grammar and spelling later, but the accent will forever elude you when you start later in life.
22:18.13AshamedNash i am going to teach my kid swedish so he can insult you in your own language
22:18.26Nash|327What a waste of time.
22:18.40Nash|327Swedish is an obscure dying language.
22:19.20Nash|327Why would anyone bother learning it if they don't need to?
22:19.44Nash|32710 million speakers, yay.
22:21.36Nash|327I don't even use it when I have the option not to.
22:22.09Nash|327But at least I live in a country where it is the de facto official language.
22:22.43Stewoxdoes anyone know C# here ?
22:23.24*** join/#sc2mapster tordy (60fa6869@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.250.104.105)
22:23.36Vailrethyo tordy
22:23.39tordyhow do you make shields behave like they were in sc1? taking full damage
22:23.49Vailreth?
22:23.52tordyby full damage i mean factor in all bonuses
22:24.19Vailrethhmm
22:24.47tordylet's say a marine deals 10 | +10vsLI | +10vsAR
22:24.55tordyi know marine doesnt do that but w/e
22:25.08tordyshielded target has LI attribute
22:25.24tordymarine will deal 30 damage to its shields and 20 damage to it unshielded
22:25.37MexaStewox, yeah, somewhat
22:25.39tordyyou get the idea right?
22:25.43tordysupo Mexa
22:25.50MexaI could see if I know what you need help with.
22:25.56MexaHello tordy.
22:26.21tordyhow did the sc2 -> sc1 conversion mod do it?
22:26.27tordydid they do it?
22:26.59Stewoxwould you know C# well enough abotu windows components
22:27.03Stewoxand UI
22:27.09Mexawindows forms?
22:27.10StewoxForms
22:27.14Stewoxyeah
22:27.17MexaI think so
22:27.25Stewoxconnecting UI with the actual code and variables
22:27.44MexaYou mean the programs logic and the gui huh?
22:27.50Stewoxokay we'll start in PM
22:27.50Nash|327you COULD do it extremely tediously
22:28.12Mexawindows forms is known to not be very nice regarding separation of code
22:28.18Nash|327make every weapon have a different damage effect with a Has Shields validator
22:28.30MexaIf you want something with windows forms, you pretty much have to bake it in the gui.
22:28.48tordyi'd rather not have to resort to that tedious way of doing it
22:29.04MexaOr tho, the gui must know about the logic
22:29.10MexaNot vice versa
22:29.20Ashamedhttp://cslacker.com/images/view/2341
22:29.57AshamedFU AMERICANS
22:30.02Mexalol
22:30.51MexaStewox, can't you just pm me at the irc?
22:30.55MexaNot at the forums
22:31.03Stewoxyes i will
22:31.07Stewoxbusy working ...
22:31.08Mexaalright
22:31.59Nash|327could also make a trigger when unit takes damage and check if it has shields, then add bonus damage
22:32.27Nash|327would involve making a switch that returns damage based on damage effect though
22:32.30Nash|327also tedious
22:32.34tordy>:)
22:32.54tordyloop through all the damage bonuses and add them
22:32.59tordybut i dont like triggers
22:33.01tordydata editor only!
22:33.19tordyi was hoping there was something i can do w/ behaviors
22:33.34tordygive shielded units a default "shield" behavior
22:33.43tordybut then i'd have to change the way damage system works
22:33.48tordymake it universal like sc1
22:34.24Nash|327well you could give every damage effect a shield bonus
22:35.16Nash|327but would not produce correct results all of the time
22:36.41Nash|327you can also give shielded units a damage response that adds damage, but same problem
22:36.55tordyoogie boogie
22:39.55AshamedFU TELEPACIFIC
22:40.01Motiveslaps JademusSreg around a bit with a large trout
22:40.09JademusSreg!
22:40.11MotiveJust looked at http://i.imgur.com/gIdNB.jpg. It inspires me.
22:40.14JademusSregHi Motive.
22:40.16MotiveIt makes me happy inside.
22:40.16MotiveHai
22:40.24AshamedNOU
22:40.28MotivePlaying Photon Cycles now too xD
22:40.30tordyomg it's Motive
22:40.31JademusSregThanks.
22:40.32AshamedThats the worse AI i have ever seen jade
22:40.35AshamedLEARN TO UI
22:40.36Ashamed*
22:40.37Ashamednot AI
22:40.39JademusSregI could play with ya.
22:40.39Ashamed-.-
22:40.43Nash|327you'd need to make different buffs that respond to different damage types, and then make a version of each of those for every attribute that is affected by bonus damage :G
22:40.43JademusSregpew pew
22:40.45Ashamedno jade that is really nice though
22:40.55Motivewell I'm not really seriously playing
22:40.55MotiveLol
22:41.07JademusSregAhh.
22:41.21JademusSregFinished the tooltips yesterday.
22:41.32JademusSregFinishing the voting mechanics today.
22:41.44Motive:D
22:41.46tordyvirtualbox or vmware
22:41.46MotiveROUND 2, VICTORY
22:41.52JademusSregNiiice.
22:41.59JademusSregPlaying with any good players?
22:42.11MotiveNot sure yet
22:42.14MotiveMaybe one, TheWalker.
22:42.15MotiveLol
22:43.03JademusSregLet me know who wins. =D
22:43.18MotiveI WILL (try) TO BE VICTORIOUS
22:43.35tordyoh man i thought d3's bank was related to sc2 banks
22:43.37tordy:(
22:43.46Motiveoh everyone left
22:43.47Motivewtf
22:43.52Motivewell I win
22:43.53MotiveLOL
22:43.54tordyword bank got me interested for a second
22:43.56JademusSregHahaha
22:44.00JademusSregWeird.
22:44.35MotivePage 3 though, good job.
22:44.44tordywasnt it page 2 not too long ago
22:44.59JademusSregPage 3 of the full list, page 2 of the custom list.
22:45.07JademusSregiirc
22:45.15Motive:D
22:45.31tordydo you guys use bonus or factor
22:45.35tordyfor damage effects
22:45.51tordyfactor makes upgrades less tedious
22:46.33JademusSregI haven't been on to play in a few days.
22:46.42JademusSregInstead, I have been dutifully working on the update.
22:46.42MotiveIs "Endurance" like, travelling in a straight line the longest or something?
22:46.43MotiveLol
22:46.51Motiveor just surviving longest of all rounds
22:47.15JademusSregIn Endurance, each player scores one point per minute they are alive in a round.
22:47.26MotiveOoh
22:47.34MotiveI like that
22:47.34Motivelol
22:52.05JademusSregI am especially fond of the tooltip for Seuss.
22:53.31Nash|327Sleep.
22:54.47JademusSregI even included a tooltip on the Finished voting button that explains how voting works.
22:56.45MexaJademus, you don't have timee to play a tricky obstacle map on teeworlds right now, have you?
22:57.03JademusSregI have time.
22:57.13JademusSregIs it fun?
22:57.16MexaWell
22:57.24MexaIt might test your patience :3
22:57.33MexaIt's easy to do things wrong
22:57.59JademusSregI'm holding a fussy baby.
22:58.12Mexaokay ;O
22:58.16MexaIs that a no then?
22:59.10JademusSregThat is "I can, but not very well."
22:59.52MexaIt's okay
22:59.56MexaI have the patience
23:00.02MexaAnd we're two anyways
23:00.22MexaSo we can both help
23:00.38MexaBut I think you need to get the latest version of teeworlds
23:00.42Mexa(since they updated
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23:01.36Rnuomerhi guys =:D
23:01.56Mexaoh hello
23:02.06JademusSregHi.
23:02.17Rnuomeris it possible to store actor data in bacnls?
23:02.23Rnuomerbanks?
23:03.17Rnuomerfor character customization
23:03.19*** join/#sc2mapster Obliviron (4859d52d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.89.213.45)
23:03.43A1windefine actor data
23:03.49OblivironHey
23:03.59OblivironCan anyone here help with a data editor inquiry?
23:04.21Rnuomerlike skin colour, face type etc?
23:04.36*** join/#sc2mapster Apple4 (4b499882@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.73.152.130)
23:04.41JademusSreg~rnuomer
23:04.43A1winjust store it as integer/string?
23:04.48Apple4can anyone explain to me how to get Focal Depth working
23:04.55JademusSregI guess purl is busy.
23:05.01*** join/#sc2mapster MindWorX` (MindWorX@188.176.196.178)
23:05.01OblivironYou have to enable it on the camera apple
23:05.06OblivironIf you move the cam, it'll reset
23:05.13Rnuomeroh
23:05.17RnuomerI think I remembver that guyy
23:05.21OblivironYou'll see it by clicking view cam in the editor or by applying cam via triggers in game
23:05.21Apple4oh u cant have a focal depth move?
23:05.36Apple4i want a focal depth on a players camera
23:05.44Apple4that moves with mouse
23:05.45OblivironHmm
23:05.56OblivironApply foc depth to a camera
23:06.01OblivironAnd lock that camera to a unit
23:06.06OblivironSee if that does something
23:06.18OblivironAnyone help me with a data editor problem?
23:06.32RnuomerI'm not so good at =:(
23:06.34A1windon't ask to ask :e
23:06.39Rnuomer=:e
23:06.41A1win...just ask
23:06.45OblivironWell, i'm making a rainbow archon
23:06.49OblivironThe rainbow part is easy
23:06.50Rnuomercool =:0
23:07.01OblivironI can't find a way to sync the actors between the archon and the beam though
23:07.07OblivironThere's a catch though
23:07.16OblivironI made a chain
23:07.24OblivironSo it works differently from just an attack actor
23:07.30OblivironThe beam actor references the attack actor
23:07.36OblivironSo i can't reference the attacker
23:07.40OblivironAnd update the color that way
23:07.41OblivironSoo
23:07.45OblivironAny ideas?
23:07.56OblivironBy chain i mean chain lightning
23:08.52Oblivirondamn
23:09.13Apple4nah the focal depth doesnt do anything
23:09.21A1wintoo advanced stuff for me ;p
23:09.43OblivironI think i might be able to do something with hosts though =\
23:09.53OblivironSorry apple i haven't worked with depth yet
23:10.01OblivironJust for one-shot terrain
23:40.57Vailrethbah
23:50.45Vailrethany one know if there is a cealing on the amount of beahviors a unit can have?
23:52.25MexaSo, Jademus, up for some playing then?
23:55.28JademusSregSure.
23:55.45MexaWill you get the new client please :)?
23:56.19MexaThere, I delivered the link on a silevr plate: http://teeworlds.com/files/teeworlds-0.6.1-win32.zip
23:56.24Mexa*silver
23:58.41JademusSregI'm on.
23:59.23Mexayay

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