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| 01:15.58 | Frostwind | Moo |
| 01:40.25 | Frostwind | anyone else bored? |
| 01:41.31 | slightlyrandom | Mildly |
| 01:41.56 | Frostwind | how bout helping me then |
| 01:45.35 | slightlyrandom | What with? |
| 01:45.51 | Frostwind | I need to fix this animation problem |
| 01:46.05 | Frostwind | I need to combine 2 animations together |
| 01:46.24 | Vailreth | still on that? |
| 01:46.25 | slightlyrandom | Play one, then play the other? |
| 01:46.29 | Frostwind | no |
| 01:46.32 | Frostwind | play both |
| 01:46.37 | slightlyrandom | At the same time? |
| 01:46.41 | Frostwind | yea |
| 01:46.50 | slightlyrandom | Make two actors, have one play one, have one play the other |
| 01:47.04 | Frostwind | that would look weird |
| 01:47.08 | slightlyrandom | ... |
| 01:47.18 | slightlyrandom | You're the one trying to make something do two things at once |
| 01:47.22 | Frostwind | having two actors using the same spot |
| 01:47.36 | slightlyrandom | And what did you intend it to look like? |
| 01:47.51 | slightlyrandom | Them magically combining the animations? |
| 01:47.59 | Vailreth | the windy one has already been informed that starcraft 2 dosent do what he wants and refuses to believe it ... or go with the only method to emulate what he wants |
| 01:48.02 | slightlyrandom | What animations are you talking about, which unit does which two things |
| 01:49.57 | slightlyrandom | If you can describe what you're trying to get done, we might suggest a way to get there, or get close |
| 01:50.14 | Vailreth | Slightly people already have .. |
| 01:50.21 | slightlyrandom | Oh well |
| 01:50.57 | Vailreth | what he wants is to combine the attack and move animations of units on the fly in game... |
| 01:51.12 | slightlyrandom | Ah |
| 01:51.35 | slightlyrandom | That might work if you chop the unit in two, have the lower part execute movement and upper do attack |
| 01:51.44 | slightlyrandom | Or make a seperate "Move and attack" animation |
| 01:51.59 | slightlyrandom | Short of that |
| 01:52.09 | Vailreth | those two have been suggested with out much luck |
| 01:52.15 | slightlyrandom | Models and animations don't work that way, bub |
| 01:52.20 | slightlyrandom | Sorry |
| 01:52.36 | slightlyrandom | I can begin to see why people are frustrated with him, then |
| 01:52.56 | *** join/#sc2mapster TheFrozenMuffin (Rugg@75-140-4-137.static.rvsd.ca.charter.com) |
| 01:53.01 | TheFrozenMuffin | hey all |
| 01:53.04 | slightlyrandom | Mjello |
| 01:53.08 | Vailreth | yo Muffin |
| 01:53.23 | Vailreth | do you know the Muffin Man.>..> |
| 01:53.37 | Vailreth | one of my fave songs by Frank Zappa... |
| 01:53.41 | slightlyrandom | The Muffin Man doesn't associate with frozen ones |
| 01:53.56 | slightlyrandom | They're an insult to proper muffins |
| 01:54.27 | Vailreth | Proper muffins are too upity ... |
| 01:54.41 | Vailreth | waves hand dismissively |
| 01:56.40 | Vailreth | chirpchirp chirpchirp... |
| 01:56.58 | TheFrozenMuffin | haha |
| 01:57.36 | Frostwind | wishes he could work on his project |
| 01:57.47 | slightlyrandom | YOUR PROJECT NEEDS A NEW MANAGER! |
| 01:57.54 | Vailreth | wishes he could ignore frostwind |
| 01:58.01 | slightlyrandom | ONE WITH LESS DELUSION |
| 01:58.13 | slightlyrandom | Why can't you? |
| 01:58.30 | timecat | wishes you would both stop bitching D: |
| 01:58.33 | Vailreth | something is goofy when ever i ignore him it highlights everything he says instead... |
| 01:58.52 | slightlyrandom | I think you're mistaken the /ignore command for the /highlight |
| 01:58.57 | Vailreth | not me.. |
| 01:59.15 | Vailreth | i use /ignore and it highlights |
| 01:59.37 | slightlyrandom | Try /highlight then |
| 02:00.43 | Vailreth | no good i think this client dosent recognize the command |
| 02:01.53 | Vailreth | oh well its not the big an issue. |
| 02:03.03 | slightlyrandom | Which client you on? |
| 02:03.11 | Vailreth | kvirc |
| 02:03.21 | slightlyrandom | TO THE GOOGLE-MOBILE! |
| 02:04.29 | Vailreth | thats what a Segway? |
| 02:05.15 | slightlyrandom | Naw, it's a virtual reality helmet |
| 02:05.39 | Vailreth | ah |
| 02:05.55 | Vailreth | wonder what starcraft2 would be like with one of those |
| 02:06.04 | Vailreth | and a control glove |
| 02:08.23 | TheFrozenMuffin | or... |
| 02:08.30 | TheFrozenMuffin | two control gloves +_+ |
| 02:08.43 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 02:09.26 | Frostwind | wishes he could work on his project |
| 02:10.19 | slightlyrandom | Frostwind, you're an idiot |
| 02:10.27 | slightlyrandom | And now you're on my ignore list |
| 02:10.31 | slightlyrandom | Congratulations, you're first |
| 02:15.28 | Agouti | you are surprisingly late to that particular club, slightlyrandom ;) |
| 02:15.40 | Currydevil-away | lol |
| 02:16.44 | Agouti | vailreth, you use KVIrc don't you? |
| 02:17.06 | Vailreth | \ |
| 02:17.11 | Vailreth | yes |
| 02:17.22 | Agouti | I'm using it now |
| 02:17.35 | Agouti | I can /ignore just fine |
| 02:17.42 | Vailreth | weird.. |
| 02:17.44 | Agouti | :s |
| 02:17.47 | Agouti | mmm |
| 02:17.54 | Agouti | I still get join messages |
| 02:18.09 | Agouti | the syntax in KVIrc is really simple too |
| 02:18.18 | Agouti | maybe update? |
| 02:18.53 | TheFrozenMuffin | Know any good tutorials on modifying weapons? I'm having a tuff time with modifying the planetary fortress |
| 02:19.02 | slightlyrandom | What you want it to do? |
| 02:19.41 | TheFrozenMuffin | first attack air. I've changed it from Ground Required to Allowed. And Air is allowed. but it still says Must target ground unit when trying to fire |
| 02:20.15 | Vailreth | i will update later |
| 02:20.36 | slightlyrandom | I seem to recall it being in multiple locations |
| 02:20.53 | TheFrozenMuffin | really? I only modified the twin ibiks cannons |
| 02:21.32 | slightlyrandom | Well, write ground in the search bar and click around |
| 02:21.35 | TheFrozenMuffin | ah, under planetary frotress + weapon |
| 02:21.41 | TheFrozenMuffin | ya, thats what I was doing. |
| 02:23.15 | slightlyrandom | Random clicking is best clicking |
| 02:23.27 | slightlyrandom | That, and the ctrl+click compare |
| 02:23.27 | Agouti | TheFrozenMuffin: Have you got all the big buttons across the top enabled, except raw data? |
| 02:23.35 | slightlyrandom | This is all I know about data editing |
| 02:23.37 | Vailreth | ok i think i have it |
| 02:23.46 | slightlyrandom | RAW DATA IS ONLY DATA! |
| 02:23.55 | TheFrozenMuffin | that was it |
| 02:24.27 | slightlyrandom | Well, ok, maybe not raw |
| 02:24.27 | TheFrozenMuffin | haha agouti. I use all kinds of big buttons ^^ |
| 02:24.38 | Agouti | What I mean is |
| 02:24.41 | Agouti | Show Table View |
| 02:24.47 | slightlyrandom | Well, as long as you're using table |
| 02:24.48 | Agouti | Show Default Values |
| 02:25.00 | Agouti | Show Advanced Fields |
| 02:25.03 | Agouti | all of those |
| 02:25.23 | Agouti | then, look at the Weapon - Target Filters |
| 02:25.26 | TheFrozenMuffin | It was just the cannon had the value and the Forthress + Weap had it again. |
| 02:25.36 | TheFrozenMuffin | ya, I usually use them all except combine. |
| 02:25.47 | Agouti | Go to the weapon. |
| 02:25.51 | Agouti | Look at the target filters |
| 02:25.51 | slightlyrandom | He fixed it |
| 02:25.56 | TheFrozenMuffin | hahahahahaha |
| 02:26.05 | slightlyrandom | Agouti wants to be useful |
| 02:26.07 | slightlyrandom | BUT HE AIN'T! |
| 02:26.12 | slightlyrandom | Mwahaha |
| 02:26.20 | Agouti | i dunno why I bother some times |
| 02:26.26 | slightlyrandom | Haha |
| 02:26.27 | Agouti | does melodramatic sigh |
| 02:26.29 | TheFrozenMuffin | all good. I like to do things twice. ^^ |
| 02:26.36 | TheFrozenMuffin | helps me get it down. |
| 02:26.44 | Agouti | and nobody can ever help me with my weird problems |
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| 02:26.49 | Agouti | well |
| 02:26.53 | Agouti | no, that isn't fair |
| 02:26.58 | TheFrozenMuffin | maybe in a year ^^ |
| 02:26.59 | slightlyrandom | I'm awesome at weird problems |
| 02:27.00 | Agouti | often times nobody else knows |
| 02:27.11 | Vailreth | I appreciate you Ago |
| 02:27.22 | TheFrozenMuffin | I only started like 5 days ago |
| 02:27.38 | Agouti | It's hard being one of the more experienced editors active on the channel |
| 02:27.39 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 02:27.56 | slightlyrandom | It took me 3 days to be an authority on triggers |
| 02:28.06 | slightlyrandom | Possibly because noone else had time to answer all those stupid questions |
| 02:28.11 | slightlyrandom | be=come |
| 02:28.11 | Agouti | triggers are easy if you have a coding background ;) |
| 02:28.23 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 02:28.25 | Agouti | the only tricky parts are things hidden away in strange places |
| 02:28.28 | TheFrozenMuffin | I got my whole map done except for stats, it's been great learning experience. Next is loading screens |
| 02:28.43 | Agouti | like the function to return if a player is a spectator, for example |
| 02:29.16 | Agouti | and the weird bugs |
| 02:29.18 | Agouti | like |
| 02:29.19 | TheFrozenMuffin | What kind of programming experience do you have? I have a year of java and C++, but I have not dived too deep into triggers yet. I want to get comfortable with the links betweens units weaps ups abilities |
| 02:29.32 | Agouti | if you Set Variable SomePlayerGroup = SomeOtherPlayerGroup |
| 02:29.38 | Agouti | it does it by reference |
| 02:29.42 | slightlyrandom | The tough part about triggers is knowing how data is structured |
| 02:29.52 | Agouti | mmm |
| 02:29.57 | Agouti | I suppose |
| 02:30.04 | slightlyrandom | Shit like having to go through player groups to get to players |
| 02:30.14 | slightlyrandom | Or unit groups to get at individual units |
| 02:30.23 | Agouti | That is pretty easy? |
| 02:30.26 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 02:30.30 | slightlyrandom | But that where most people fail |
| 02:30.31 | Agouti | player and unit groups are just arrays |
| 02:30.46 | slightlyrandom | Once you get that, it's just a matter of searching in the trigger list |
| 02:30.48 | Agouti | there are a lot of things that people like us with coding experience take for granted |
| 02:30.55 | JademusSreg | The same way C strings are char arrays, haha. |
| 02:31.00 | slightlyrandom | I have no coding experience, I have a code mindset though |
| 02:31.01 | Vailreth | i need to figure out how to give this hero exp |
| 02:31.13 | slightlyrandom | Gotta learn to code something, some time |
| 02:31.14 | Agouti | strings are char arrays in every sense Jade ;) |
| 02:31.34 | Agouti | the only difference is the functions that deal with them often treat them as a single value |
| 02:31.52 | Agouti | on the surface, anyway |
| 02:32.40 | Agouti | a string and short int array (if your short ints are defined as 1 byte) are exactly the same thing, and you can implictly typcast between them ;) |
| 02:33.15 | Vailreth | gah i feel stupid now |
| 02:33.37 | slightlyrandom | GOOD! |
| 02:33.45 | slightlyrandom | I mean, whats up? |
| 02:33.48 | TheFrozenMuffin | I'm with vailreth. |
| 02:33.59 | TheFrozenMuffin | I like muffins... |
| 02:34.00 | JademusSreg | You know what I mean, maaan. |
| 02:34.24 | Vailreth | all this time ive been trying to validate the level learned of an |
| 02:34.26 | JademusSreg | That C didn't have a primitive string type always bugged me. |
| 02:34.33 | Vailreth | ability |
| 02:34.43 | Vailreth | when i can just validate for the hero's vet level |
| 02:34.53 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 02:36.00 | Vailreth | but is it a good idea to decrease the amount of exp a hero gets from using abilities along withe the increase in exp needed for each level? |
| 02:36.12 | slightlyrandom | No |
| 02:36.18 | Vailreth | didnt think so.. |
| 02:36.21 | slightlyrandom | Don't make it two dimensional |
| 02:36.33 | slightlyrandom | Increase amount needed until right, don't overthink it |
| 02:36.52 | slightlyrandom | (Why do you get exp for using abilities?) |
| 02:37.07 | Vailreth | the hero doesnt have a weapon |
| 02:37.26 | slightlyrandom | So it'd translate into getting less per kill? |
| 02:37.33 | Vailreth | that may need to be rethougth though |
| 02:37.46 | Vailreth | yeah i will have to give this hero a weapon after all.. |
| 02:37.47 | slightlyrandom | You might need it to scale with relative unit level |
| 02:38.00 | slightlyrandom | So you don't just grind level 1 |
| 02:38.09 | slightlyrandom | (Assuming this is vaguely RPG'ish) |
| 02:38.22 | Agouti | Can anyone remember off the top of their head how to set custom text for a requirement? |
| 02:38.38 | Agouti | wait, that's right... you have to do it on the requirement node |
| 02:38.40 | Agouti | not the object |
| 02:38.45 | Agouti | never mind, carry on |
| 02:38.46 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 02:38.55 | Vailreth | be back in a sec |
| 02:39.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ashamed (43be33f7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.190.51.247) |
| 02:39.55 | Nash|327 | ~seen hawker |
| 02:39.57 | purl | hawker <63e9c492@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.233.196.146> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 19h 37m 36s ago, saying: 'i'm going to continuin terrairing'. |
| 02:39.59 | Ashamed | wh00p wh00p |
| 02:40.12 | slightlyrandom | Do the cookie dance! |
| 02:40.33 | Ashamed | started my new job today :) it was fun |
| 02:40.45 | Mexa | Did it go well? |
| 02:40.49 | Agouti | inb4 "new job now new hell" |
| 02:41.27 | Ashamed | it wait great :) |
| 02:41.37 | Ashamed | agouti this job is much better then my previouse job |
| 02:41.44 | Ashamed | by like 10 dollars an hour :) |
| 02:41.47 | Ashamed | and much more benifits |
| 02:42.01 | Ashamed | i worked at hell because thats exactly what i did |
| 02:42.15 | Agouti | I know, just teasing ;) |
| 02:42.28 | Ashamed | i was the infrastrucutre focal over seeing 125+ agents hardware / software / IDS and i was paid 11.35 an hour .... |
| 02:42.47 | Agouti | Oh US minimum wage, you so crazy |
| 02:43.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster Wiz10011 (~Wiz10011@ool-435412f5.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 02:43.04 | Ashamed | well not min here |
| 02:43.08 | Ashamed | its like 3 dollars more |
| 02:43.09 | Ashamed | lol |
| 02:43.10 | Agouti | fun fact |
| 02:43.19 | Wiz10011 | ~seen Sixen |
| 02:43.21 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (7d 22h 9m 3s) #wowhead (7d 22h 9m 3s) #wowuidev (7d 22h 9m 3s). Has said a total of 65 messages. Is idling for 1d 18h 57m 21s, last said: 'or july 10th'. |
| 02:43.22 | Ashamed | but i didnt go to college so i had to gain the experiance |
| 02:43.25 | Agouti | here in aus it would be illegal to pay someone that little |
| 02:43.32 | Ashamed | yeah i wish..... |
| 02:43.39 | Mexa | hmm, how old is Katy Perry? |
| 02:43.40 | Ashamed | our min is fucking like 7.24 |
| 02:43.45 | Agouti | @_@ |
| 02:43.47 | Ashamed | 7.25 or something |
| 02:43.50 | Wiz10011 | anyone post about the EU blog post? |
| 02:43.55 | Ashamed | i dunno its been a while since i made it |
| 02:43.57 | Ashamed | it does rais |
| 02:44.00 | Currydevil | 9 something here Ashamed, where are you? lol |
| 02:44.02 | Ashamed | but i mean in cali its like 15.00 |
| 02:44.09 | slightlyrandom | When comparing minimum wages, gotta compare living expenses |
| 02:44.09 | Ashamed | colorado. |
| 02:44.13 | Currydevil | Oo |
| 02:44.15 | Currydevil | Oregon.. |
| 02:44.16 | Ashamed | yeah i know slightly |
| 02:44.16 | Agouti | Australia's minimum wage is $15.51 per hour or $589.30 per week. |
| 02:44.20 | JademusSreg | Mexa, who? |
| 02:44.38 | TheFrozenMuffin | no it's not |
| 02:44.40 | Agouti | which works out after conversion like US$40/hour xP |
| 02:44.44 | TheFrozenMuffin | it's only 8 bucks an hour haha |
| 02:44.51 | Ashamed | well i am making 20 now |
| 02:44.55 | Ashamed | with full paid benifits :) |
| 02:45.01 | TheFrozenMuffin | Before I graduated I got paid like 9.50 |
| 02:45.04 | Ashamed | and i found out my company pays the deductable too |
| 02:45.23 | Ashamed | i got my GED |
| 02:45.33 | Agouti | are your employers legally obligated to pay your super on top of that? |
| 02:45.44 | slightlyrandom | I got paid ~27USD as a mailman |
| 02:45.45 | Mexa | Jademüsli, oh noes, you know nothing about famous mainstream artists :d? |
| 02:45.52 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 02:45.52 | slightlyrandom | But then, you can't really live on less around these parts |
| 02:46.02 | Ashamed | that sucks slightly |
| 02:46.09 | Agouti | I get $41 an hour as tech support |
| 02:46.11 | Agouti | ^_^ |
| 02:46.14 | Mexa | On another subject.. wtf? http://youtu.be/WQO-aOdJLiw |
| 02:46.15 | Ashamed | here in CO if you are smart enough... and good with your money |
| 02:46.16 | TheFrozenMuffin | I'm salary w overtime now |
| 02:46.22 | TheFrozenMuffin | Public Accountant |
| 02:46.22 | Ashamed | you cna live w2ith like 10 bucks an hour |
| 02:46.28 | Ashamed | agouti thats what i do too :) |
| 02:46.39 | Ashamed | i just got a job at EVERON - Plum Choice |
| 02:46.39 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, it's fairly close to minimum wage, but then, for a no-education required job |
| 02:46.49 | Wiz10011 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:46.57 | Wiz10011 | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2696532#blog |
| 02:47.32 | Ashamed | my company only supports small companies though lol |
| 02:47.46 | Ashamed | we have like 350 clients all 10-100 employees |
| 02:47.47 | Vailreth | oh that reminds me i had an interesting idea for a zerg unit |
| 02:47.57 | slightlyrandom | LURKER! |
| 02:48.30 | Ashamed | http://www.everonit.com/ <- |
| 02:49.43 | Wiz10011 | Didn't Sixen go to Blizzard HQ today? |
| 02:50.07 | Vailreth | well its based on a lurker but its more like a terran senesor tower |
| 02:50.21 | slightlyrandom | Am I the only one that dislikes units knowing whether a path is blocked or not when pathfinding, even if the player doesn't ? |
| 02:50.31 | Wiz10011 | a borrow unit that sense seismetic activity? |
| 02:50.34 | slightlyrandom | This annoys me |
| 02:50.37 | Vailreth | yes |
| 02:50.50 | slightlyrandom | So it can only detect ground units? |
| 02:50.51 | Vailreth | to both Wiz and slightly |
| 02:50.54 | Agouti | it annoys me too, slightlyrandom |
| 02:51.14 | Vailreth | yes it only detects ground units but it can move |
| 02:51.16 | Agouti | but it has always done it |
| 02:51.22 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 02:51.24 | Agouti | way back to at least WC3 |
| 02:51.28 | Agouti | if not SC:BW |
| 02:51.37 | Wiz10011 | Well of course, how can you detect something thats flying from a borrowed unit? |
| 02:51.37 | slightlyrandom | Wonder how hard it'd be to fix |
| 02:51.48 | Agouti | impossible |
| 02:51.53 | slightlyrandom | Pfft |
| 02:51.59 | Agouti | unless you forego footprints completely |
| 02:52.09 | JademusSreg | What's up? |
| 02:52.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tempest04 (4b499882@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.73.152.130) |
| 02:52.15 | slightlyrandom | Just have pathfinding be based on local information, instead of global |
| 02:52.25 | Agouti | or write your own pathing algorithm |
| 02:52.36 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, wondering why Blizzard doesn't fix it |
| 02:52.41 | Agouti | one of the basics of the SC2 engine is all units know about all footprint applies |
| 02:52.47 | JademusSreg | Fix what? |
| 02:52.49 | Agouti | even in the fog |
| 02:53.00 | Agouti | <slightlyrandom> Am I the only one that dislikes units knowing whether a path is blocked or not when pathfinding, even if the player doesn't ? |
| 02:53.01 | slightlyrandom | Magic clairvoyant pathfinding units |
| 02:53.02 | Tempest04 | is there a way to get the dimensions of a screen/fulscreen dialog |
| 02:53.11 | slightlyrandom | Yes |
| 02:53.14 | Agouti | which is why you generally need to use a placement check for fog |
| 02:53.25 | slightlyrandom | But not directly |
| 02:53.26 | Agouti | otherwise you can use a build ability to look for buildings in the fog |
| 02:53.31 | Agouti | by checking for No Build |
| 02:53.54 | slightlyrandom | Eh, sorry, I might have misunderstood you Tempest04 |
| 02:53.59 | Agouti | you could do that back in beta iirc |
| 02:54.14 | Agouti | before they added placement checks for fog to all the melee footprints |
| 02:54.30 | Agouti | Anyway |
| 02:54.34 | Agouti | if you don't use footprints |
| 02:54.43 | Wiz10011 | Vailreth are you goin to make them like those worms thats like a 1/4 mile long and three tongues with more mouths like them? (I cant remember the name of that movie) |
| 02:54.44 | Agouti | the pathing doesn't know about it |
| 02:55.00 | Vailreth | Tremors |
| 02:55.05 | Wiz10011 | Yep! that movie! |
| 02:55.09 | Vailreth | i have all three of those movies |
| 02:55.17 | slightlyrandom | So do I |
| 02:55.22 | slightlyrandom | www.thepiratebay.com |
| 02:55.28 | Vailreth | hah |
| 02:55.29 | Agouti | pffft |
| 02:55.30 | slightlyrandom | The internet is my collection |
| 02:55.31 | Wiz10011 | THEIF! |
| 02:55.34 | Agouti | who uses TPB? |
| 02:55.36 | Agouti | honestly |
| 02:55.41 | Agouti | private trackers or gtfo |
| 02:55.41 | Vailreth | i payed like five bucks for the trilogy at biglots |
| 02:56.02 | Tempest04 | slightlyrandom, i want to make a kind of radar system on the edge around the entire screen, so to make things move around the edge of the screen i need to/liked to return the relative dimensions of each players screen somehow |
| 02:56.36 | slightlyrandom | You can only really detect aspect ratios from a mouse click |
| 02:57.11 | slightlyrandom | Unless they changed that since I looked into it a year ago |
| 02:57.22 | Tempest04 | so this isnt possible? |
| 02:57.29 | JademusSreg | Mmm, provate trackers. Delicious. |
| 02:57.32 | slightlyrandom | It is |
| 02:57.36 | JademusSreg | *private |
| 02:57.51 | Vailreth | a talented designer can disguise an unfixed or unfixable bug as a design choice.. |
| 02:58.12 | JademusSreg | But when something is too obscure for a private tracker... |
| 02:58.17 | Tempest04 | like GunZ |
| 02:58.58 | Tempest04 | how would you make that if you know a way slightlyrandom |
| 02:59.03 | Vailreth | like i hide the Morph Stat bug with a morph ability that costs fifty % enegry |
| 02:59.56 | slightlyrandom | I'm not quite sure what you want to achieve |
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| 03:00.13 | slightlyrandom | But you can offset things relative to the edges, and cheat that way |
| 03:00.23 | slightlyrandom | Instead of one big dialog, have four offset from each edge |
| 03:00.38 | Mexa | Jademüsli, come play some teeworlds with me D: |
| 03:00.48 | slightlyrandom | have four, one offset from each edge* |
| 03:00.57 | JademusSreg | Teeworlds? |
| 03:01.15 | Mexa | nods. |
| 03:01.17 | Mexa | http://www.teeworlds.com/ |
| 03:02.00 | Tempest04 | basicly imagine taking a round radar, where dots would show units that are around the player just in relation to rotation, stretch that circle out into a line, and let that line loop around the edge of the screen, all the way around, so you have dots going around the screen, each side of the screen representing 90 degrees |
| 03:02.06 | Mexa | You can't say no! It's cute and funny :P |
| 03:02.10 | JademusSreg | Looks cool. |
| 03:02.27 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 03:02.44 | slightlyrandom | Split that further into four, and have one on each edge |
| 03:02.50 | slightlyrandom | Bam! No more problem |
| 03:03.08 | Tempest04 | how does that detect the dimensions? |
| 03:03.20 | slightlyrandom | Isn't there a 100% option? |
| 03:03.30 | Tempest04 | fullscreen option? |
| 03:03.31 | slightlyrandom | Meh, I can't recall these things :S |
| 03:03.35 | Tempest04 | yes |
| 03:04.09 | slightlyrandom | I just hang out for the company, I haven't had SC2 installed for at least half a year |
| 03:04.29 | JademusSreg | I need to make this shit into a windowed mode. |
| 03:04.44 | Tempest04 | the only way i can think, is to make it a fullscreen image, which im not exactly sure how cuz the dialog background is locked to being a different skin, but i would make many versions of the same fullscreen image and have it streched across a full dialog |
| 03:05.08 | Mexa | Jademus, the game? |
| 03:05.19 | Mexa | Shouldn't be all too complicated :> |
| 03:05.43 | Tempest04 | (and there i run into the problem of the fullscreen dialog background haveing a weird skin path i dont know to apply a flat image to) |
| 03:06.13 | JademusSreg | Alright. I'm on. |
| 03:06.15 | slightlyrandom | How about making a ton of dialogs, 20 to a side, and filling ones where enemy units are? |
| 03:06.42 | Mexa | alright |
| 03:06.42 | Tempest04 | that doesnt scale with screen dimensions |
| 03:06.44 | Tempest04 | lol |
| 03:06.54 | Tempest04 | different resolutions |
| 03:07.07 | Tempest04 | i need it to scale to automatically |
| 03:07.11 | Mexa | Jademus, vanilla or a mod? |
| 03:07.17 | JademusSreg | I dunno. |
| 03:07.38 | Mexa | There's a variety of them |
| 03:07.46 | Mexa | we can start with vanilla I guess |
| 03:07.58 | Mexa | But CTF or DM? |
| 03:08.07 | Mexa | or TDM |
| 03:08.09 | Mexa | or whatever |
| 03:08.10 | Mexa | :D |
| 03:08.12 | JademusSreg | I dunno. I'm trying it entirely at your request. |
| 03:08.13 | slightlyrandom | Tempest04: Fuck that, make it offset from center and not be on the edge if the screen is too big |
| 03:08.16 | JademusSreg | Makes no difference to me. |
| 03:08.19 | Mexa | :P |
| 03:08.21 | Mexa | okay |
| 03:09.03 | JademusSreg | I had hoped you meant Terraria, as though "teeworlds" was some new slang. |
| 03:09.13 | Mexa | Alright, check your server filter, and uncheck everything but compatible version |
| 03:09.15 | JademusSreg | But then I've done everything in Terraria already. |
| 03:09.15 | Mexa | Ohyou |
| 03:09.17 | Mexa | :d |
| 03:09.32 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 03:09.34 | Mexa | And then refresh |
| 03:09.50 | Mexa | And then sort by players, you should see a map type called openfng pretty high up |
| 03:10.07 | Mexa | And then we hope your ping isn't that high |
| 03:10.53 | Mexa | tell me if you find it |
| 03:11.21 | JademusSreg | How about we use the friends option. |
| 03:11.33 | Mexa | that could work too^^ |
| 03:11.34 | JademusSreg | Then I can find the game you're in. |
| 03:11.41 | Mexa | yeah |
| 03:11.47 | Mexa | Alright, add Sonikku |
| 03:12.11 | Mexa | I assume you will be JademuSreg? |
| 03:12.26 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 03:12.36 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 03:12.39 | Mexa | But not JademusSreg? |
| 03:14.12 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 03:14.20 | JademusSreg | JademusSreg, forevah. |
| 03:14.49 | Mexa | So, jademusSreg? |
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| 03:20.53 | Tempest04 | what happens when you buy 1000 copys of starcraft 2 |
| 03:20.59 | Tempest04 | and register the same name |
| 03:21.12 | Wiz10011 | you make blizzard really happy. |
| 03:21.21 | Vailreth | yep |
| 03:29.13 | Agouti | the ID can be 4 figures |
| 03:29.28 | Agouti | no reason why it couldn't also be 5, even though I have never seen it |
| 03:31.15 | Tempest04 | my origonal name was apple |
| 03:31.25 | Tempest04 | and the 2nd game i joined, was with som1 named apple |
| 03:32.21 | TheFrozenMuffin | I'm not an apple fan. The fruit that is. |
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| 03:37.59 | slightlyrandom | I prefer Pears |
| 03:53.22 | Ashamed | hey in the trigger debugger that number above when its checking events/checked/run whats a bad number for that lol? |
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| 04:02.51 | Nash|327 | people use trigger debuggers? D: |
| 04:04.35 | Mexa | Ashamed, what column... |
| 04:05.02 | Mexa | Failed events? |
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| 04:08.26 | Birdie_ | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/off-topic/23971-path-of-exile-diablo-iii/ |
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| 04:31.03 | soopadoug | is that made in the sc2 editor? |
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| 04:47.06 | slightlyrandom | hehe |
| 04:47.07 | slightlyrandom | No |
| 04:47.47 | Xaragoth | we could totally do that in the sc2 editor |
| 04:49.02 | slightlyrandom | It has already been done |
| 04:49.05 | slightlyrandom | Multiple times |
| 04:49.10 | slightlyrandom | Hell, I did it twice this morning |
| 04:49.16 | Xaragoth | and wtf |
| 04:49.17 | Xaragoth | http://lol.zone.gamebase.com.tw/zone/lol/skin_view/tryndamere_demonsword#tryndamere_demonsword |
| 04:49.21 | Xaragoth | this actually looks good |
| 04:49.26 | Xaragoth | who put the drugs into riots office? |
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| 04:50.57 | tordy | anyone else noticing something funny? |
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| 04:52.50 | tordy | using the map image preview increases the map's file size by like 200KB |
| 04:53.09 | tordy | while i can just use a custom image that looks similar quality to it and only increase like 10KB |
| 04:53.10 | Mexa | why is that funny? |
| 04:53.18 | tordy | it's an outrage! |
| 04:53.39 | tordy | damn i can decrease my map's file size by almost 200KB |
| 04:53.40 | tordy | it's great |
| 04:53.42 | tordy | should've done this earlier |
| 04:53.45 | Mexa | So then, take the map image preview, export it, resave it, and import it |
| 04:53.45 | tordy | >:)| |
| 04:53.55 | tordy | xactly that's what im doin |
| 04:54.18 | Mexa | or rather, use the minimap exporter |
| 04:54.32 | tordy | nah the minimap looks horrible |
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| 04:56.15 | tordy | woooooooow |
| 04:56.20 | phoenix7700 | WOOOOOOOOOOW |
| 04:58.39 | TheFrozenMuffin | yo |
| 04:59.01 | tordy | now that i think about it, where's the map image preview |
| 04:59.16 | TheFrozenMuffin | in the room |
| 05:01.24 | tordy | yo momma |
| 05:13.33 | slightlyrandom | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcM9Ynfzll0 |
| 05:13.47 | slightlyrandom | Path of Exile devs show off their random level generation system |
| 05:13.52 | slightlyrandom | That's quite neat |
| 05:16.54 | slightlyrandom | I hope the game will be good, too |
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| 05:38.24 | Xaragoth | So.. |
| 05:38.28 | Xaragoth | Blizz declared war, eh? |
| 05:42.06 | XenoX101 | ? |
| 05:42.19 | Xaragoth | They called the popular stuff "artistic" |
| 05:45.50 | tordy | where |
| 05:46.49 | Xaragoth | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/23952-blizzard-comment-about-talented-mappers/ |
| 05:46.51 | Xaragoth | right there |
| 05:47.12 | Xaragoth | Whoever dared calling Nexus Wars "artistic" has hell coming on them |
| 05:48.43 | slightlyrandom | Eh what? |
| 05:50.36 | tordy | who |
| 05:51.33 | Xaragoth | Blizz. |
| 05:52.31 | tordy | the guy just copied and pasted the front page |
| 05:52.34 | tordy | no big deal |
| 05:52.43 | tordy | we all know they dont give a shit |
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| 05:57.20 | Deaod | yet they still pretend to care. |
| 05:57.30 | Agouti | Thank fuck ID didn't get mentioned |
| 05:57.44 | Deaod | ID? |
| 05:57.53 | Agouti | exactly. |
| 05:58.55 | Deaod | no, really, what is it? |
| 05:59.25 | Agouti | A map |
| 06:00.18 | timecat | blizzard is just clueless |
| 06:00.18 | Deaod | who wouldve guessed |
| 06:00.24 | timecat | they know how to run an MMO, not an rts |
| 06:00.39 | Deaod | they used to know how to create an RTS |
| 06:00.43 | Deaod | and a decent fucking editor |
| 06:00.52 | timecat | their editor is fine |
| 06:00.57 | timecat | its very powerful |
| 06:01.12 | Deaod | *twitch* |
| 06:01.29 | timecat | it just takes effort to learn, which most ppl don't want to do that |
| 06:02.07 | Deaod | that doesnt make it a good editor |
| 06:02.13 | Xaragoth | timecat: They also don't know how to run an MMO, they made the same mistakes there for their core-fanbase |
| 06:02.20 | Xaragoth | They just got all the 40+ people into it by now :P |
| 06:02.40 | timecat | the mistakes they made with the core audience aren't mistakes |
| 06:02.44 | Deaod | powerful doesnt mean good. |
| 06:02.50 | timecat | those "mistakes" generated them even more cash |
| 06:05.51 | Deaod | there are good things about SC2s editor. but id still argue that the way they designed the data editor and trigger editor is utter crap. |
| 06:06.06 | Deaod | data editor is for fucking data |
| 06:06.22 | Deaod | not for how a spell interacts with other units. |
| 06:06.34 | Deaod | then theres the terrible VM |
| 06:06.41 | timecat | i think you're just bad at using it |
| 06:06.53 | Deaod | i am |
| 06:07.05 | Deaod | but i also think its the wrong way to do it. |
| 06:07.11 | timecat | well |
| 06:07.13 | Agouti | The editor is not polished, and they haven't prioritized bug fixing unless it directly affects melee players |
| 06:07.26 | timecat | if you got better at using it you might see how its actually a great system |
| 06:07.29 | Agouti | that is the worst my complaint could legitematly be. |
| 06:07.46 | Agouti | There are a dozen or so annoying bugs |
| 06:07.50 | timecat | and yea i agree with agouti, its just unpolished atm |
| 06:07.56 | Agouti | and a distinct lack of documentation |
| 06:07.58 | Agouti | but it's solid |
| 06:08.07 | Deaod | again, me being good at something doesnt mean i think its the right way to do it |
| 06:08.10 | Agouti | sure, there are features I would like |
| 06:08.18 | Agouti | but that would always be the case |
| 06:08.34 | Agouti | I would settle for the ability to do maths operations in Effect - Modify Unit |
| 06:08.40 | Agouti | with data references |
| 06:08.43 | Agouti | that would make my day |
| 06:08.46 | timecat | i wish you could step through each link in the data editor |
| 06:08.57 | timecat | when you test the map |
| 06:09.16 | Agouti | yeah, but sadly, that isn't really feasible |
| 06:09.25 | timecat | nope |
| 06:09.47 | Agouti | you can do a lot of debugging if you know how |
| 06:10.00 | timecat | only with triggers tho right? |
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| 06:16.30 | slightlyrandom | The only map I "finished" is plagued by a memory leak I couldn't track down |
| 06:16.39 | slightlyrandom | What kind of debugging you able to do Agouti? |
| 06:16.39 | tordy | how come the chance effect isnt working |
| 06:16.45 | slightlyrandom | You're doing it wrong |
| 06:18.18 | tordy | nvm im just doin it wrong |
| 06:19.57 | timecat | remember chance is out of 1 |
| 06:20.05 | timecat | so .6 would be 60% |
| 06:20.08 | tordy | yea i know |
| 06:20.10 | timecat | k |
| 06:20.14 | tordy | im using a set |
| 06:20.21 | tordy | the ordering of the effects screwed me up |
| 06:20.27 | tordy | so it looked like the chance effect was never occuring |
| 06:20.34 | tordy | even though i put it at 10% |
| 06:20.41 | timecat | i wish i didn't have to spend 90% of my time in the data editor |
| 06:20.48 | timecat | cause its so boring |
| 06:22.13 | Deaod | imagine all the data editor did was fill in templates of objects in a scripting language. |
| 06:22.38 | timecat | ok then how would you create a new weapon? |
| 06:23.23 | Deaod | errr, pretty much the same way you do it currently |
| 06:23.41 | Deaod | the thing is, currently, the templates are hidden from your view |
| 06:23.48 | timecat | uh |
| 06:23.56 | timecat | what about right click -> create new [whatever] |
| 06:24.02 | timecat | then choosing a template for it |
| 06:24.08 | Deaod | huh? |
| 06:25.29 | timecat | wtf when did season 3 start |
| 06:25.37 | Deaod | yesterday |
| 06:25.59 | tordy | LOL |
| 06:26.28 | timecat | good thing they give us vetoes |
| 06:26.35 | timecat | i can actually set up a halfway decent map pool |
| 06:28.51 | tordy | get @ me |
| 06:35.06 | timecat | http://i.imgur.com/gr0bt.jpg |
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| 06:54.37 | phoenix7700 | anyone help me out? |
| 06:55.08 | phoenix7700 | trying to apply a behavior a certain times using triggers, and i got it to apply ok, but it wont remove |
| 06:55.32 | slightlyrandom | Does the behavior have a timed life? |
| 06:55.35 | phoenix7700 | no |
| 06:55.51 | slightlyrandom | You're trying to remove it with a trigger, then? |
| 06:55.56 | phoenix7700 | yes |
| 06:56.02 | phoenix7700 | i have it added |
| 06:56.07 | phoenix7700 | when unit is selected |
| 06:56.13 | phoenix7700 | and i have a trigger to remove |
| 06:56.15 | phoenix7700 | on deselect |
| 06:56.19 | phoenix7700 | but it doesn't remove |
| 06:57.03 | phoenix7700 | also |
| 06:57.16 | slightlyrandom | How critical is the behavior? Can you have it apply every 2 seconds, and time out after 2.5 ? |
| 06:57.31 | phoenix7700 | uhh no |
| 06:58.23 | phoenix7700 | that would work, but would cause gameplay problems |
| 06:58.41 | slightlyrandom | Well, either it isn't referring to the right unit on deselect, or it can't target the right behavior on deselect |
| 06:58.42 | phoenix7700 | ie selecting 2 units quickly |
| 06:58.53 | phoenix7700 | hmm |
| 06:59.02 | slightlyrandom | I'd check the first, first |
| 06:59.23 | slightlyrandom | Since that's easy, just have it kill the unit or something instead |
| 06:59.47 | phoenix7700 | k |
| 07:00.24 | Nash|327 | also, screenshot and paste triggers, we don't magically know what you may be doing wrong |
| 07:00.27 | phoenix7700 | unit dies |
| 07:00.33 | phoenix7700 | kk |
| 07:00.35 | slightlyrandom | Copy and paste triggers |
| 07:00.36 | slightlyrandom | Thats easier |
| 07:00.48 | phoenix7700 | how do i do said copy paste |
| 07:00.55 | slightlyrandom | select, right click, copy |
| 07:01.05 | phoenix7700 | right |
| 07:01.07 | phoenix7700 | that doens't work |
| 07:01.08 | slightlyrandom | www.pastebin.com |
| 07:01.16 | Nash|327 | I prefer screenshots personally :G |
| 07:01.23 | slightlyrandom | Meh, whatever |
| 07:01.27 | slightlyrandom | You CAN copy trigger text |
| 07:01.31 | phoenix7700 | meh, i have two monitors |
| 07:01.33 | slightlyrandom | You're just doing it wrong ;) |
| 07:01.38 | phoenix7700 | so my screens shots are gigantic |
| 07:01.41 | slightlyrandom | but screenshots will serve |
| 07:01.43 | Nash|327 | crop |
| 07:01.50 | phoenix7700 | SO MUCH WORK |
| 07:01.58 | Nash|327 | some thigns don't show up in text |
| 07:02.01 | slightlyrandom | Learn to copy trigger text, then |
| 07:02.05 | slightlyrandom | This is true |
| 07:02.15 | Nash|327 | like issue order order type |
| 07:02.29 | Nash|327 | it shows up in tree view |
| 07:02.40 | flyingspatula | can you animate a cursor asset? or must a cursor be a static image? |
| 07:02.57 | slightlyrandom | Isn't it animated most of the time? |
| 07:03.16 | slightlyrandom | Ie. almost, if not always |
| 07:03.18 | flyingspatula | ya but isnt it just being replaced with another when highlighting etc |
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| 07:03.26 | flyingspatula | so its an actual model? |
| 07:03.34 | slightlyrandom | Good question |
| 07:03.36 | slightlyrandom | I have no idea |
| 07:03.36 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 07:03.39 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 07:03.42 | flyingspatula | ill check it out i guess |
| 07:04.19 | Agouti | I believe it is just a texture |
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| 07:07.07 | phoenix7700 | http://imgur.com/fhZeK |
| 07:07.26 | phoenix7700 | meh oops |
| 07:07.34 | phoenix7700 | http://imgur.com/i7Jie |
| 07:09.43 | slightlyrandom | Not relevant to your problem, but that's an interesting mechanic |
| 07:09.59 | phoenix7700 | thats what isn't working? |
| 07:10.30 | slightlyrandom | Now, you DO have more than one builder per player, right? |
| 07:11.05 | phoenix7700 | what do you mean |
| 07:11.08 | phoenix7700 | like the unit? |
| 07:11.22 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 07:11.24 | phoenix7700 | yes |
| 07:11.31 | phoenix7700 | and if it doesn't take it off |
| 07:11.37 | phoenix7700 | you can build off the other units |
| 07:11.39 | slightlyrandom | You can build near other buildes |
| 07:11.39 | phoenix7700 | and i dont want that |
| 07:11.40 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 07:11.43 | slightlyrandom | I see |
| 07:11.54 | slightlyrandom | There has to be a better way |
| 07:12.02 | phoenix7700 | yeah |
| 07:12.10 | phoenix7700 | i tried making an ability with a range |
| 07:12.12 | slightlyrandom | On select is a stupid event |
| 07:12.21 | phoenix7700 | can't do on use |
| 07:12.28 | phoenix7700 | or unit uses ability |
| 07:12.38 | phoenix7700 | maybe selects 2nd page? |
| 07:12.45 | phoenix7700 | cus i hve all the building on 2nd page |
| 07:12.56 | phoenix7700 | but still |
| 07:13.00 | phoenix7700 | the deselect |
| 07:13.08 | phoenix7700 | i dont know another way to take it off |
| 07:13.20 | slightlyrandom | You can do it on ability use |
| 07:13.27 | slightlyrandom | either cancel or build |
| 07:13.29 | phoenix7700 | take it off when they use it? |
| 07:13.35 | phoenix7700 | ahh |
| 07:13.36 | slightlyrandom | Unless... |
| 07:13.43 | slightlyrandom | Well, that might fuck up if they have to move to use it |
| 07:13.45 | phoenix7700 | but will that make the building unable to build |
| 07:13.48 | phoenix7700 | yeah |
| 07:14.13 | slightlyrandom | It adds the behavior to it, right? |
| 07:14.16 | slightlyrandom | That all works? |
| 07:14.17 | phoenix7700 | yes |
| 07:14.21 | phoenix7700 | adds it just fine |
| 07:14.26 | phoenix7700 | and |
| 07:14.26 | slightlyrandom | And it selects the proper unit |
| 07:14.29 | phoenix7700 | kills the unit |
| 07:14.55 | slightlyrandom | Can you shoot more broadly with your behavior targeting? |
| 07:15.01 | slightlyrandom | Like, remove all behaviors, or something? |
| 07:15.08 | phoenix7700 | yeah |
| 07:15.19 | phoenix7700 | thats only one im using atm |
| 07:15.20 | slightlyrandom | That might be worth trying |
| 07:15.38 | slightlyrandom | Narrow down the issue, as it were |
| 07:16.01 | phoenix7700 | is there a different action for all behaviors? |
| 07:16.23 | slightlyrandom | Dunno, that's why I asked |
| 07:16.31 | slightlyrandom | Been a while since I've been in the editor |
| 07:16.42 | phoenix7700 | i dont think there is an option for all |
| 07:17.43 | phoenix7700 | i have |
| 07:17.46 | phoenix7700 | on mapinitation |
| 07:17.56 | phoenix7700 | wait... |
| 07:18.39 | phoenix7700 | nope damnit... |
| 07:21.23 | Nash|327 | you use behavior from player action? |
| 07:21.26 | Nash|327 | D: |
| 07:21.42 | phoenix7700 | so i should use the unit one? |
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| 07:21.54 | phoenix7700 | and have caster be triggering unit?? |
| 07:22.03 | Nash|327 | I use that one. |
| 07:22.06 | Nash|327 | Shit works. |
| 07:22.09 | phoenix7700 | well |
| 07:22.22 | phoenix7700 | i didn't know what to set unit to for the apply |
| 07:22.39 | phoenix7700 | i'll try it |
| 07:23.19 | Nash|327 | why do you add behavior when ANY player selects anyway? |
| 07:23.36 | Nash|327 | shouldn't it just be if the owner selects unit :G |
| 07:23.41 | phoenix7700 | meh |
| 07:23.42 | phoenix7700 | yeah |
| 07:23.48 | phoenix7700 | it should |
| 07:24.01 | slightlyrandom | These are details |
| 07:24.09 | slightlyrandom | Problem is nuking the damn behavior |
| 07:24.11 | Nash|327 | otherwise someone else can select/deselect your builder |
| 07:24.23 | Nash|327 | and fuck up your ability to build |
| 07:24.28 | slightlyrandom | Would be fun |
| 07:24.35 | slightlyrandom | Pro tactic |
| 07:24.45 | phoenix7700 | lol |
| 07:24.49 | phoenix7700 | spam click their builder |
| 07:24.52 | phoenix7700 | so they can't build |
| 07:25.01 | phoenix7700 | NO SIR |
| 07:26.01 | phoenix7700 | YAY |
| 07:26.05 | phoenix7700 | that one works |
| 07:26.10 | Nash|327 | MAGIC |
| 07:26.20 | slightlyrandom | The fabeled step 2 |
| 07:26.22 | phoenix7700 | i think it's because it was trying to remove the behavior from the player not the unit |
| 07:26.40 | phoenix7700 | now, set to owner.... |
| 07:28.38 | Nash|327 | MORE CONDITIONS D:! |
| 07:29.02 | phoenix7700 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:29.06 | phoenix7700 | and error |
| 07:29.15 | phoenix7700 | would it be under the behavior? |
| 07:29.23 | Agouti | have you tried searching the sounds for power? |
| 07:29.24 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 07:29.38 | JademusSreg | Was playing mah map. |
| 07:29.38 | phoenix7700 | i dont want the sound |
| 07:29.47 | phoenix7700 | i want the thing that triggers the sound |
| 07:29.57 | JademusSreg | Wha'ts going on? |
| 07:30.04 | phoenix7700 | LOTS OF STUF |
| 07:30.04 | Agouti | protip |
| 07:30.08 | phoenix7700 | IT"S KOOL |
| 07:30.14 | JademusSreg | KOOLAID |
| 07:30.14 | Agouti | "Used By" menu. |
| 07:30.37 | phoenix7700 | ...ahhh k |
| 07:31.19 | phoenix7700 | where/how do i get to that |
| 07:32.16 | Agouti | If I asked you to guess |
| 07:32.24 | Agouti | where would you guess? |
| 07:32.38 | Agouti | lets think aloud for a second, shall we? |
| 07:32.42 | Agouti | you know the sound |
| 07:32.44 | phoenix7700 | uhhh in that little drop down menu thingy |
| 07:32.53 | Agouti | good, good |
| 07:33.00 | Agouti | and if you look through that |
| 07:33.09 | Agouti | does anything jump out that might indicate sounds? |
| 07:33.10 | phoenix7700 | i found sounds |
| 07:33.14 | phoenix7700 | but the "used by" |
| 07:33.22 | phoenix7700 | i didn't |
| 07:33.40 | Agouti | right click on any object. |
| 07:33.45 | phoenix7700 | i figure that an option you have to turn on |
| 07:33.49 | Agouti | no. |
| 07:34.00 | phoenix7700 | ok |
| 07:34.02 | tordy | damn charges still dont make a lick of sense |
| 07:34.03 | phoenix7700 | right click |
| 07:34.17 | Agouti | so have you found it? |
| 07:34.24 | phoenix7700 | view modify explain... |
| 07:34.28 | phoenix7700 | i dont see used by |
| 07:34.35 | Agouti | sigh |
| 07:34.39 | Agouti | where are you right clicking |
| 07:34.40 | slightlyrandom | Wussat tordy? |
| 07:34.46 | tordy | sup ma |
| 07:34.53 | phoenix7700 | in the box in the bottom left |
| 07:34.57 | phoenix7700 | on the name of the sound |
| 07:35.01 | JademusSreg | pew pew |
| 07:35.12 | Agouti | have you tried the other obvious place to right click on objects? |
| 07:35.23 | phoenix7700 | ahhh ha |
| 07:35.27 | phoenix7700 | i've DONE IT |
| 07:35.31 | Agouti | how much easier things are |
| 07:35.37 | Agouti | when you show some inituitive |
| 07:35.45 | slightlyrandom | Hm? |
| 07:35.48 | slightlyrandom | Initiative? |
| 07:36.01 | slightlyrandom | Or intuitive |
| 07:36.15 | Agouti | the former, which should be obvious from the context |
| 07:36.31 | slightlyrandom | Well, it could be missing a word |
| 07:36.46 | Agouti | show some initiative is a common phrase |
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| 07:37.03 | Agouti | and rather appropriate in that circumstance |
| 07:37.10 | slightlyrandom | I agree |
| 07:37.21 | JademusSreg | Show some adjective! |
| 07:37.42 | tordy | the beast is unleashed! |
| 07:37.48 | Agouti | I have a love hate relationship with circlips |
| 07:38.01 | Agouti | I love them but hate that I don't have circlip pliers to fit these ones |
| 07:38.17 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I should go to sleep. =D |
| 07:38.32 | Helral|Work | already? |
| 07:38.46 | JademusSreg | 3:38 am here. =D |
| 07:38.58 | JademusSreg | It is the prudent choice. |
| 07:39.05 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 07:39.19 | Helral|Work | hmmmm timezone -4 GMT.... wonder where that is ;p |
| 07:39.30 | JademusSreg | Somewhere or another. |
| 07:39.50 | JademusSreg | Like I pay attention to trivial details like where I live. =D |
| 07:40.02 | Helral|Work | nobody cares anyway you mean? |
| 07:40.09 | hawker | Jademus |
| 07:40.12 | hawker | In le Terraria |
| 07:40.16 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 07:40.32 | hawker | If I am playing hardcore mode, and die, and procede to log out, will my gear disappear? |
| 07:40.35 | slightlyrandom | As long as they have mailmen and bring out groceries, who cares where you live? |
| 07:40.41 | Agouti | internet |
| 07:40.48 | slightlyrandom | Obviously |
| 07:40.50 | JademusSreg | (Terraria is fun. But I am burnt out until the next update.) |
| 07:40.53 | slightlyrandom | I thought that was a given |
| 07:41.04 | JademusSreg | I've not played hardcore, but you lose all your shit on you when you die. |
| 07:41.11 | JademusSreg | From what I understand, |
| 07:41.12 | hawker | It's just dropped |
| 07:41.15 | hawker | It can be retrieved |
| 07:41.17 | JademusSreg | Interesting. |
| 07:41.20 | hawker | I just lost it in a chasm |
| 07:41.22 | hawker | :( |
| 07:41.25 | hawker | Damn soul eater |
| 07:41.26 | tordy | they called chatrooms or chat channels |
| 07:41.34 | JademusSreg | Yes, items are despawned when the map is not played. |
| 07:41.51 | JademusSreg | Because item in the world are not objects saved to the map file. |
| 07:41.54 | hawker | Well then |
| 07:42.03 | hawker | Looks like I will not be sleeping for awhile |
| 07:42.04 | Helral|Work | soul eater ain't that bad a manga/anime |
| 07:42.05 | hawker | :| |
| 07:42.07 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 07:42.08 | phoenix7700 | DAMNIT, i changed the sound but it didn't work... christ this thing |
| 07:42.16 | hawker | Everything is down in the pit |
| 07:42.28 | Jum-Jum | Helral|Afk: Uhm... Soul Eater the NPC in Terraria. :D |
| 07:42.32 | JademusSreg | Hawker, is it on multiplayer or single player? |
| 07:42.48 | Jum-Jum | hawker: Only a few minutes to retrieve it! GOGOGO! |
| 07:42.59 | slightlyrandom | Helral|Work: True story |
| 07:43.03 | Helral|Work | Jum-Jum: I dun't believe ya. cause I dun't know Terraria ;p |
| 07:43.04 | Jum-Jum | Actually, items in lava are destroyed |
| 07:43.15 | slightlyrandom | Soul Eater is quite entertaining, actually |
| 07:43.20 | JademusSreg | Nearly any item is, yes. |
| 07:43.22 | slightlyrandom | Compelling universe |
| 07:43.26 | JademusSreg | Not obsidian. |
| 07:43.29 | Jum-Jum | what items arent? |
| 07:43.31 | Jum-Jum | oh |
| 07:43.47 | Helral|Work | just throw some water over the lava to create obsidian. |
| 07:43.58 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 07:44.17 | JademusSreg | Anyway, Hawker, if you were playing in multiplayer, I could zoom in and get it for ya. |
| 07:45.06 | Helral|Work | you can also use an iron bucket to remove a lava tile. *roflol* |
| 07:45.29 | JademusSreg | Yeah. Don't drop it in the lava by accident. =D |
| 07:45.33 | JademusSreg | RAGE |
| 07:45.47 | Helral|Work | btw what is Terraria? |
| 07:45.49 | phoenix7700 | damnit, used by didn't help |
| 07:46.06 | JademusSreg | It's a fun game for a few hundred hours. |
| 07:46.11 | Helral|Work | phoenix7700: what you trying to do? |
| 07:46.29 | Helral|Work | JademusSreg: cause all I've been saying is mc stuff.... got bored of that a while ago. |
| 07:46.41 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 07:46.43 | Jum-Jum | Helral|Afk: Easiest way to describe it is 2D Minecraft, but less creative funky buildings and contraptions and more about killing mobs. |
| 07:46.55 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 07:46.58 | Jum-Jum | I stopped playing before I got to see any goblins. :( |
| 07:47.02 | Jum-Jum | The goblin invasions |
| 07:47.05 | phoenix7700 | trying to find out where this sound if triggered |
| 07:47.05 | JademusSreg | It has more fun shit to do, I guess. But it similarly waers thin once you hit max tier gear. |
| 07:47.08 | Xaragoth | blood moon |
| 07:47.10 | Xaragoth | stopped playing |
| 07:47.11 | phoenix7700 | is triggered |
| 07:47.12 | Xaragoth | was dead |
| 07:47.13 | Xaragoth | ~~ |
| 07:47.15 | Jum-Jum | lol |
| 07:47.26 | JademusSreg | Naw, the game is too easy currently. |
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| 07:47.34 | Helral|Work | phoenix7700: did you look throw the error data type (or was it called alert) |
| 07:47.36 | JademusSreg | The next update is said to make it more than twice as difficult. |
| 07:47.39 | Helral|Work | through* |
| 07:47.57 | Agouti | phoenix7700: It is probably built in, much like "You require more minerals" |
| 07:48.01 | phoenix7700 | it's alert_protosspowerfield |
| 07:48.05 | phoenix7700 | yes |
| 07:48.07 | phoenix7700 | it is |
| 07:48.10 | phoenix7700 | but i want to change it |
| 07:48.38 | phoenix7700 | i found the sound |
| 07:48.51 | phoenix7700 | and i changed it under Generic conversations |
| 07:48.55 | phoenix7700 | but that didn't work |
| 07:49.13 | Agouti | There are 3 different sounds by that name. |
| 07:49.19 | phoenix7700 | yeah |
| 07:49.22 | Agouti | If you look at the suffix. |
| 07:50.09 | phoenix7700 | only one of them has the used by optioin |
| 07:50.15 | phoenix7700 | and i already changed that one |
| 07:50.29 | Agouti | what is the name of the one you changed |
| 07:50.50 | phoenix7700 | Alert_protossprotossplanceinpowerfield (unnamed) |
| 07:51.02 | Agouti | You didn't think perhaps |
| 07:51.04 | phoenix7700 | placein* |
| 07:51.11 | Agouti | Alert_ProtossProtossPlaceInPowerField_Build |
| 07:51.15 | phoenix7700 | that one |
| 07:51.17 | phoenix7700 | is used |
| 07:51.18 | Agouti | may have been more appropriate? |
| 07:51.19 | phoenix7700 | by nothing |
| 07:51.29 | Agouti | Did you try changing it? |
| 07:51.29 | phoenix7700 | so what do i change? |
| 07:51.35 | Agouti | Think. |
| 07:51.50 | Agouti | if you wanted to change which sound it would play |
| 07:52.05 | Agouti | and you know what a sound looks like |
| 07:52.09 | Agouti | it's a file, isn't it? |
| 07:52.13 | phoenix7700 | wait |
| 07:52.17 | Agouti | so think with me here for a second |
| 07:52.23 | phoenix7700 | so the sound has a trigger build in it? |
| 07:52.24 | Agouti | if model objects point to model files |
| 07:52.35 | Agouti | trigger? |
| 07:52.41 | Agouti | who said anything about triggers. |
| 07:52.47 | phoenix7700 | last time i changed a sound |
| 07:53.09 | phoenix7700 | i pointed the sound it used to a different one |
| 07:53.30 | Agouti | Do you think, perhaps, that you should try that in this case? |
| 07:54.06 | phoenix7700 | yes, but i can't find where it is that i should redirect it, cus last time it was under the building |
| 07:54.29 | phoenix7700 | said sound, i clicked sound and changed it |
| 07:54.39 | Agouti | Have a look through the sound object in the editor. |
| 07:54.56 | Agouti | See if you can find something on your own which might be used to get that object to play a different sound. |
| 07:55.09 | phoenix7700 | k |
| 07:56.24 | Helral|Work | phoenix7700: did you adjust the: Sound Assets - File of the sound? |
| 07:56.41 | phoenix7700 | no |
| 07:56.45 | JademusSreg | Sleep time. |
| 07:57.09 | Helral|Work | you should change that most likely if you want it to play a different sound. |
| 07:57.22 | phoenix7700 | yea |
| 07:57.25 | Agouti | Helral, let him think for himself |
| 07:57.25 | phoenix7700 | thats what i wanted |
| 07:57.33 | phoenix7700 | but agouti is no help |
| 07:57.57 | Helral|Work | phoenix7700: where do you think you would change the sound file? |
| 07:57.58 | Agouti | Agouti helps those who help themselves. |
| 07:58.32 | phoenix7700 | i thought it was under the unit or something like that |
| 07:58.43 | Helral|Work | how about under sounds.... |
| 07:58.47 | phoenix7700 | or like ability |
| 07:58.48 | Agouti | You didn't think much at all |
| 07:59.04 | Agouti | why think, when #sc2mapster is here to hold your hand? |
| 07:59.05 | phoenix7700 | i swear i saw a sound field under abilites |
| 07:59.08 | Helral|Work | Agouti: he thought too much. |
| 08:00.07 | Helral|Work | phoenix7700: prolly true but if you want to change 1 sound so it always plays some other sound then you change the sound not the links to the sound. |
| 08:00.40 | Helral|Work | why make 50 changes when 1 would suffice? ;p |
| 08:00.57 | phoenix7700 | didn't realize you could just change sounds and not have to re-link them :O |
| 08:01.34 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 08:01.40 | phoenix7700 | also, the sound that was playing didn't already have a link to it! |
| 08:01.41 | Helral|Work | just go to the datatype sound, cause that contains all the sound links used in the game. and it is there that the files used to play the sounds are listed under. |
| 08:02.01 | Helral|Work | phoenix7700: I followed it from conversations to sounds..... |
| 08:02.14 | phoenix7700 | not the build one |
| 08:02.27 | phoenix7700 | the other one with unnamed on the end wasn't the right one |
| 08:02.37 | Helral|Work | Alert_ProtossProtossPlaceInPowerField (Unnamed) |
| 08:02.54 | phoenix7700 | yeah i changed that link in the conversations |
| 08:02.58 | phoenix7700 | and it didn't do anything |
| 08:03.03 | Helral|Work | I followed that link in conversations. |
| 08:03.32 | Nash|327 | HAND ME KITTUNS |
| 08:03.34 | Helral|Work | I can't test if file changing works here. cause I'm at work. |
| 08:03.52 | Helral|Work | but you can simply change the file set for that sound and see if it works. |
| 08:04.07 | phoenix7700 | but i got it now, and figures out which it was, and now know you can change sounds :D |
| 08:07.48 | Saeris | so what's going on in the world of mapster today? |
| 08:08.05 | Saeris | been a while since i've talked in irc |
| 08:08.06 | Agouti | I'm repairing my headphones |
| 08:08.16 | Agouti | which is so far a 2 hour job |
| 08:08.22 | Saeris | ick |
| 08:08.28 | Saeris | sounds tedious |
| 08:08.38 | Agouti | incredibly so |
| 08:08.47 | Agouti | I'm still yet to solder the far side |
| 08:09.05 | Agouti | after having had to unsolder it to thread the wire back to replace a hinge |
| 08:09.11 | Saeris | yea i wouldn't be able to stand doing that, bad eyesight >.< |
| 08:09.39 | Agouti | ah, fortunetly I was blessed with very good eyesight |
| 08:10.05 | Agouti | however many tiny, easily mashed screws make things somewhat frustrating |
| 08:10.10 | Agouti | none killed so far |
| 08:10.17 | Agouti | oh, and tiny circlips |
| 08:10.18 | Xaragoth | BURN THEM ALIVE! |
| 08:10.21 | Saeris | my eyes are starting to blur out right now cuz i've been working all day with textures and in illustrator |
| 08:10.32 | Saeris | oh hey xara, just someone i wanted to talk to =P |
| 08:10.35 | Agouti | oh? |
| 08:10.45 | Saeris | know much about specular maps? |
| 08:10.52 | Xaragoth | they make things shiny |
| 08:10.55 | Xaragoth | the end |
| 08:11.02 | Saeris | any tips on making them? |
| 08:11.08 | Xaragoth | ask otixa |
| 08:11.12 | Saeris | aight |
| 08:11.15 | Xaragoth | wrong person for that ^^ |
| 08:11.32 | Xaragoth | i can model, but i'm horrible with textures |
| 08:11.36 | Xaragoth | at least making them |
| 08:11.40 | Xaragoth | using them is a different matter |
| 08:11.41 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 08:11.45 | Saeris | i'm using WoW models for a new project, and i've decided to take to converting all the textures |
| 08:11.51 | Saeris | and making normals and speculars from them |
| 08:12.01 | Saeris | as best i can of course |
| 08:12.05 | Agouti | dev teams have it easy |
| 08:12.12 | Agouti | they can paint directly onto the model |
| 08:12.15 | Agouti | and see it in real time |
| 08:12.26 | Saeris | yea my laptop is too shitty for that, lol |
| 08:12.40 | Saeris | maybe i'll be getting a 3D rig next month though for school |
| 08:13.25 | Saeris | but yes, basically the normal maps have been dead simple and produce some pretty nice results already |
| 08:13.46 | Saeris | the speculars are a bit more dubious though, can't always tell if i did it right |
| 08:14.03 | Nash|327 | ho-hum |
| 08:14.18 | Saeris | i'm very glad my textures are only 65kb a piece though! shitty quality as it may be |
| 08:14.39 | phoenix7700 | BOOGITY BOOGITY BOOGITY AMEN |
| 08:14.43 | phoenix7700 | just saw that |
| 08:14.44 | Nash|327 | have not eaten in 36 hours |
| 08:14.59 | Saeris | go eat, it'll give you energy to keep modding =P |
| 08:15.10 | Nash|327 | I'm not modding D: |
| 08:15.44 | Saeris | welll then..... fuck |
| 08:15.46 | Saeris | i'm too tired |
| 08:15.52 | Saeris | been at this all day, lol... |
| 08:15.56 | Nash|327 | just lots of job application stuff this week :G |
| 08:16.03 | Saeris | ugh |
| 08:16.05 | Nash|327 | and made a loading screen |
| 08:16.10 | Saeris | i know how tiring that can be >.< |
| 08:16.15 | Saeris | both of those activities |
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| 08:16.58 | Nash|327 | and one company is like FIND US A REFERENCE BY TODAY ARGHGH!!11 |
| 08:17.20 | Nash|327 | because they couldn't get hold of the other one |
| 08:17.40 | Nash|327 | because they only call during the day |
| 08:19.04 | Saeris | better than getting turned down by everyone for needing to leave for school in september |
| 08:19.17 | Nash|327 | Could have given more notice. :G |
| 08:19.27 | Saeris | sometimes i wonder if being honest about my availability is worth it or not |
| 08:20.36 | Nash|327 | Well if you leave for school in September, what kind of job are you looking for, where you can be productive for like 1 month D_D |
| 08:21.54 | Nash|327 | engineering level jobs take a few months just to get into so you can be self-reliant and productive |
| 08:25.17 | Agouti | "engineering" is a pretty broad term |
| 08:25.38 | Agouti | if you mean software engineering, that still depends |
| 08:25.44 | Agouti | in my mind |
| 08:27.29 | Saeris | just a part time job, i've been looking since february |
| 08:27.34 | Saeris | never found anything |
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| 08:34.04 | Agouti | oh crist |
| 08:34.30 | Agouti | I didin't quite leave myself enough cord after reassembling one side |
| 08:34.46 | Agouti | there goes another hour |
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| 08:45.38 | harl | [wuff wuff] |
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| 10:00.08 | tordy | what's wrong with sorting maps by how long host waits in the lobby? |
| 10:00.11 | tordy | seems like a good idea to me |
| 10:00.14 | tordy | someone enlighten me! |
| 10:00.26 | Currydevil | do not want. |
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| 10:01.21 | tordy | avogatro ma maaaan!!! |
| 10:08.08 | RndmObjcts | sup Currydevil |
| 10:08.18 | Currydevil | heya |
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| 10:09.58 | tordy | what's wrong with sorting maps by how long host waits in the lobby? |
| 10:10.02 | tordy | seems like a good idea to me |
| 10:10.03 | tordy | someone enlighten me! |
| 10:10.26 | Nash|327 | die |
| 10:11.23 | tordy | nash what do you think |
| 10:16.08 | Nash|327 | too tired to opinion |
| 10:16.18 | HP-X|Arthas | i dont have a mind of my own so im going to say like Currydevil |
| 10:16.19 | HP-X|Arthas | do not want |
| 10:16.28 | tordy | why not!? |
| 10:16.33 | tordy | put yo hands up!!! |
| 10:16.35 | HP-X|Arthas | This is the internet |
| 10:16.47 | HP-X|Arthas | What makes you think someone will explain anything!?!? :D |
| 10:16.54 | tordy | doesnt hurt |
| 10:17.06 | HP-X|Arthas | Yes it does, I need to get back to packing stuff :p |
| 10:17.11 | tordy | sorting maps by host lobby time seems like a pretty good idea imo |
| 10:17.19 | tordy | blizz get on that stat! |
| 10:17.49 | tordy | difficult to abuse since games autostart |
| 10:18.09 | Nash|327 | die |
| 10:18.12 | tordy | only requirement for "advertisement" is afking in your map as host |
| 10:18.23 | tordy | afterwards the community decides |
| 10:18.44 | tordy | "popular" maps will have significantly shorter host lobby waits but there'll be a lot of them |
| 10:18.44 | Nash|327 | idle moar |
| 10:19.13 | tordy | so it'll be relatively popular iunno |
| 10:19.20 | Currydevil | Lame, I broke my actors. ahhhh problem for another night. bed time! |
| 10:19.22 | tordy | need to do some math |
| 10:19.37 | tordy | what's the average time a host has to wait on page 1 maps? |
| 10:19.48 | tordy | 8+ player maps |
| 10:19.52 | Currydevil | go play 100 maps and find out. |
| 10:19.56 | Nash|327 | idle moar |
| 10:19.58 | tordy | i dun wanna |
| 10:20.15 | Currydevil | you're the one that wants to know =O |
| 10:20.24 | Nash|327 | so dumb |
| 10:20.25 | tordy | i'd imagine rodrigo is already taking care of it |
| 10:20.29 | tordy | since he's a statistics whore |
| 10:20.33 | tordy | not like that's a bad thing |
| 10:20.43 | tordy | i love statistics |
| 10:20.56 | Currydevil-away | bai |
| 10:21.10 | tordy | but you know what they say |
| 10:21.18 | tordy | there's lies, damned lies, and statistics |
| 10:21.32 | Helral|Work | meow |
| 10:21.39 | tordy | helral your opinion? |
| 10:21.41 | tordy | i want |
| 10:21.46 | Helral|Work | about what? |
| 10:21.48 | Currydevil-away | they is mark twain |
| 10:22.04 | tordy | about sorting maps by time host is in lobby |
| 10:22.13 | tordy | good idea? |
| 10:22.14 | Helral|Work | my opinion is ... divide by zero error.... |
| 10:22.19 | tordy | :( |
| 10:22.24 | tordy | why does no one have an opinion on it |
| 10:22.32 | Helral|Work | cause we do not care. |
| 10:22.32 | Currydevil-away | the internets are about to esplode. |
| 10:22.38 | Currydevil-away | he divided by zero |
| 10:22.48 | Helral|Work | Currydevil-away: tried to and failed. |
| 10:22.57 | Currydevil-away | bugger. |
| 10:22.59 | tordy | did y'all stop caring about ways to fix the popularity system? |
| 10:23.09 | tordy | fair enough |
| 10:23.09 | Currydevil-away | i don't play custom maps .. |
| 10:23.14 | tordy | ^ |
| 10:23.15 | Helral|Work | Currydevil-away: what will remain if you divide 1234 by 0? |
| 10:23.25 | tordy | custom games is as good as dead mirite |
| 10:23.28 | Currydevil-away | 42 |
| 10:23.31 | tordy | let's go watch evo 2011 |
| 10:23.33 | tordy | who's with me |
| 10:23.39 | tordy | daigo THE BEAST IS UNLEASHED |
| 10:24.10 | Helral|Work | Currydevil-away: i didn't ask the most important question about life, the universe and everything else.... |
| 10:24.17 | tordy | omg |
| 10:24.24 | Deaod | sorting games by host in lobby is not a good idea. |
| 10:24.33 | Currydevil-away | Hahaha I like the MS calculator response. "cannot divide by zero." |
| 10:24.45 | Currydevil-away | or windows calculator |
| 10:24.49 | tordy | i see you Deaod |
| 10:24.50 | tordy | thanks |
| 10:25.02 | Deaod | ? |
| 10:25.18 | Helral|Work | I can give you a valid answer to the question: "what will remain if you divide 1234 by 0" |
| 10:25.33 | Currydevil-away | alright, answer away |
| 10:25.38 | Helral|Work | 1234 |
| 10:25.48 | Helral|Work | since dividing by 0 fails I still have 1234 left. |
| 10:25.58 | Currydevil-away | I see |
| 10:26.12 | tordy | 1337 * (pi / 100) = ~42 |
| 10:26.15 | tordy | coincidence? |
| 10:26.16 | tordy | i think NOT |
| 10:26.48 | Currydevil-away | nice. |
| 10:27.00 | Currydevil-away | but that still won't sort maps by lobby time. |
| 10:27.06 | tordy | sure it will |
| 10:27.15 | tordy | Douglas Adams is writing a book on it right now |
| 10:27.17 | Helral|Work | it only works at 13:37 ;p |
| 10:27.29 | Currydevil-away | that can be arranged. |
| 10:28.00 | Xaragoth | Helral|Afk |
| 10:28.00 | tordy | Helral for the love of god where is your giant xml thingymajig |
| 10:28.03 | Xaragoth | damn it |
| 10:28.07 | Xaragoth | Helral|Work |
| 10:28.08 | Helral|Work | meow? |
| 10:28.10 | Xaragoth | throws fish. |
| 10:28.13 | tordy | Helral's a bot |
| 10:28.13 | Xaragoth | catch. |
| 10:28.16 | Deaod | again, sorting by lobby time is a bad idea, with all the possible abuse and without a decent game browser |
| 10:28.19 | Xaragoth | also |
| 10:28.20 | Helral|Work | eats the fish. |
| 10:28.22 | Xaragoth | 2m until impact |
| 10:28.29 | Nash|327 | idle moar |
| 10:28.41 | Currydevil-away | bed time for real. |
| 10:29.00 | Helral|Work | tordy: what you need from it? |
| 10:29.06 | tordy | i forgot |
| 10:29.09 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 10:29.14 | tordy | just lemme save it so i dont have to ask you again |
| 10:29.15 | tordy | :] |
| 10:29.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster avogatro (~avogatro@nat-wh-hadi.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) |
| 10:29.25 | tordy | avogatro yeeeaa!! |
| 10:29.33 | Helral|Work | if you need frame definitions you can use the link at my tutorial |
| 10:30.02 | tordy | fine i'll just extract the layouts from sc2.core |
| 10:30.16 | Helral|Work | once the other bit is done, or more done, I will add it to the tutorials. |
| 10:30.42 | tordy | Helral have you been neither afk nor at work yet? |
| 10:30.48 | Helral|Work | yup |
| 10:31.02 | Helral|Work | when my home pc had rebooted to install updates at night. |
| 10:31.04 | tordy | im seeing double! |
| 10:31.37 | Helral|Afk | would be even worse if we both started typing.... |
| 10:31.44 | Helral|Work | but that won't happen... |
| 10:31.53 | Helral|Afk | or will ir :) |
| 10:31.57 | Helral|Work | it* |
| 10:32.02 | tordy | Deaod what abuse, host constantly leaving & remaking? |
| 10:32.05 | tordy | that's just too much effort |
| 10:32.13 | tordy | once the map becomes semi-popular |
| 10:32.18 | Nash|327 | it's not |
| 10:32.20 | Deaod | host staying in the game too long |
| 10:32.30 | tordy | what do you mean |
| 10:32.33 | Deaod | without starting the map |
| 10:32.36 | Nash|327 | idle moar |
| 10:32.38 | tordy | the game will autostart |
| 10:32.40 | Nash|327 | idle moar |
| 10:32.45 | Nash|327 | idle moar!!! |
| 10:32.55 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/user/BlindRavenStudios |
| 10:32.57 | Xaragoth | looky looky |
| 10:32.58 | Xaragoth | shiny |
| 10:33.18 | Nash|327 | LOL MY MAP IS #1 CUZ I HAVE NO LIFE |
| 10:33.24 | Nash|327 | IDLE MOAR NOOB |
| 10:33.45 | tordy | if it excludes private lobbies, i think it's alright |
| 10:34.17 | tordy | you'd have to leave as the host every time right before the lobby gets full |
| 10:34.20 | tordy | and constantly remake |
| 10:34.21 | Helral|Work | Nash|327: sry, we can't supply you with life.... we ran out, come back next week and we might have it in stock then. |
| 10:34.27 | tordy | once the map gets semi-popular, it'll get even more difficult |
| 10:34.37 | Nash|327 | you had a lobotomy |
| 10:34.40 | tordy | and even if your 20+ friends does it, it'll be insignificant |
| 10:36.22 | Nash|327 | instead of how much people play, list by how much host idles lobby |
| 10:36.28 | Nash|327 | clearly better metric |
| 10:36.33 | Nash|327 | solves all problems |
| 10:36.48 | tordy | solving all problems? pfffffffft |
| 10:36.51 | tordy | far from it |
| 10:36.52 | Nash|327 | will make it sort based on map quality |
| 10:37.07 | Nash|327 | BEST IDEA EVER |
| 10:37.29 | Nash|327 | No, the best idea ever was the one where you could invite random people to your map. |
| 10:37.45 | Nash|327 | press a button to invite random people |
| 10:37.59 | Deaod | wait, games autostart? |
| 10:38.01 | tordy | no the best idea is to sort by how many players you have in the lobby that have the prefix "Nash" |
| 10:38.08 | Deaod | what kind of bullshit is that? |
| 10:38.13 | tordy | Deaod yeeeaaaa where da hell u been |
| 10:38.23 | tordy | xd |
| 10:38.27 | Helral|Work | Deaod: public games always autostarted.... |
| 10:38.32 | tordy | been autostarting since god knows how long |
| 10:38.41 | tordy | since beta phase 2 |
| 10:38.43 | tordy | i think |
| 10:38.56 | Deaod | well, might have something to do with me not playing public custom maps. |
| 10:38.57 | Nash|327 | (Clord) there is simple thing they could do and it would fix popularity problem... if you host private match... there should be button to make it public but so that it also automatically invites random players who are online until room is full of people who have accepted the invitation |
| 10:39.08 | Nash|327 | BEST IDEA EVER |
| 10:39.46 | tordy | leave Clord alone! |
| 10:39.49 | tordy | >:( |
| 10:39.53 | Nash|327 | FIX POPULARITY SYSTEM!!!11 |
| 10:40.00 | Nash|327 | CURE IS WORSE THAN DISEASE |
| 10:40.22 | Nash|327 | Any more retarded ideas? |
| 10:40.30 | Xaragoth | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/off-topic/23981-im-an-evil-genius-shiny-inside/ there we go |
| 10:40.32 | Xaragoth | gimme comments |
| 10:40.34 | Xaragoth | i want them |
| 10:40.36 | Xaragoth | ~~ |
| 10:40.38 | tordy | so Deaod what do you think now |
| 10:41.31 | Helral|Work | Xaragoth: Comments: it is an off-topic thread. |
| 10:41.39 | Xaragoth | yes \o/ |
| 10:41.47 | Helral|Work | there ya go. you wanted comments. |
| 10:41.47 | tordy | \o/ |
| 10:41.48 | Xaragoth | because i have found no cinematic forum :/ |
| 10:42.04 | Helral|Work | I didn't even looked at the thread, cause I'm at work ;p |
| 10:42.08 | Nash|327 | too tired; didn't watch |
| 10:43.43 | tordy | wait Gorandor is Xaragoth ? what is this madness |
| 10:46.08 | Xaragoth | madness? |
| 10:46.12 | Xaragoth | THIS. IS. MAPSTER. |
| 10:46.21 | Xaragoth | landmine-headbutts tordy. |
| 10:46.54 | HP-X|Arthas | 2006 |
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| 10:55.52 | Blub\w | Xaragoth: so... |
| 10:55.59 | Blub\w | you made that? |
| 10:56.09 | Xaragoth | ye |
| 10:56.20 | Xaragoth | first part of the intro stuff for the map |
| 10:56.24 | Xaragoth | will be played in-game later |
| 10:56.51 | Blub\w | are you making like, a big campaign? :P |
| 10:56.52 | tordy | isn't that a cutscene in the game |
| 10:56.52 | RndmObjcts | im such a nub!! lol |
| 10:57.01 | Blub\w | (what did you use to make that vid btw?) |
| 10:57.06 | RndmObjcts | i cant figure out how to make an ability that spawns units xD QQ |
| 10:57.08 | Xaragoth | tordy: abusing blizz content, added planet -> new scene! :P |
| 10:57.12 | Blub\w | tordy: I have no idea i cannot remember them all :) |
| 10:57.14 | tordy | lucky bastard! |
| 10:57.15 | Xaragoth | nah Blub\w, nothing big |
| 10:57.18 | Xaragoth | shiny, yes |
| 10:57.19 | Xaragoth | big, no |
| 10:57.27 | RipperRoo | wtf^^ |
| 10:57.34 | tordy | wow that planet is awesome, gimme that! |
| 10:57.57 | Blub\w | Xaragoth: by abusing blizz content, do you mean an existing video, or the just the modeldata? |
| 10:57.57 | Xaragoth | shiny as in: http://i.imgur.com/oVgo0.jpg |
| 10:58.04 | Xaragoth | model data |
| 10:58.11 | Xaragoth | since we still have no script for animations |
| 10:58.19 | Xaragoth | and the export/import script hates storymode models still |
| 10:58.28 | Xaragoth | i have no other choice but the clever use of tricks |
| 10:58.31 | Skizot | shiny is easy |
| 10:58.32 | Blub\w | so what did ya use for the video? blender? |
| 10:58.36 | tordy | why is the hyperion going at hyperspeed |
| 10:58.48 | Blub\w | because it's HYPER-ION :P |
| 10:58.52 | tordy | ^ |
| 10:58.53 | Xaragoth | sc2 editor, fraps |
| 10:58.58 | Blub\w | ow |
| 10:59.09 | Blub\w | and, ow ^^ |
| 10:59.10 | tordy | what you thought he made the models and animations from scratch? |
| 10:59.13 | tordy | xd! |
| 10:59.15 | Blub\w | no |
| 10:59.18 | Blub\w | I thought he exported them |
| 10:59.24 | Blub\w | and imported to blender |
| 10:59.26 | Blub\w | to do stuff |
| 10:59.37 | tordy | that's overTkill |
| 10:59.48 | Blub\w | no that's pretty realistic :/ |
| 10:59.56 | Xaragoth | that would be too much work oO |
| 11:00.05 | Xaragoth | i'm lazy as hell, why would i do that? |
| 11:00.06 | Xaragoth | xD |
| 11:00.54 | Xaragoth | i did that for blizzcon |
| 11:00.58 | Xaragoth | and that didn't work out very well |
| 11:00.59 | tordy | what for blizzcon |
| 11:01.04 | Xaragoth | exporting |
| 11:01.07 | Blub\w | blizzcon >.< |
| 11:01.07 | Xaragoth | and custom animations |
| 11:01.20 | Xaragoth | maybe I'll put up the intro for the map to blizzcon this year, dunno |
| 11:02.08 | Blub\w | ppl really go to that thing? ^^ |
| 11:02.18 | Xaragoth | no idea |
| 11:02.20 | Xaragoth | if i'd win |
| 11:02.21 | tordy | yea did you see the hundreds last year? |
| 11:02.25 | Xaragoth | i'd gift the damn ticket |
| 11:02.31 | tordy | to me |
| 11:02.33 | tordy | so i can sell it |
| 11:02.35 | Xaragoth | mapster content |
| 11:02.43 | Xaragoth | or if someone with tits wants to go, that'd be more viable |
| 11:02.50 | tordy | no wwhy would you do that |
| 11:02.57 | tordy | we need more hambeasts over there |
| 11:02.59 | Xaragoth | free motorboating? |
| 11:03.24 | tordy | are they gonna have another custom map contest |
| 11:03.31 | Xaragoth | and why is it that everyone is always scared by my threads? :P |
| 11:03.37 | tordy | what threads |
| 11:03.49 | Xaragoth | do you know how long ago i got comments from anyone else besides the skilled people? ages *lol* |
| 11:04.09 | tordy | does otixa still exist |
| 11:04.12 | Xaragoth | ye |
| 11:04.14 | Xaragoth | on skype |
| 11:04.18 | Xaragoth | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/off-topic/23981-im-an-evil-genius-shiny-inside/ <- there for example :p |
| 11:04.19 | tordy | :( |
| 11:04.55 | tordy | not sure what you're saying |
| 11:05.07 | tordy | only "skilled" people post in your threads? |
| 11:05.19 | Blub\w | now there you have a nice comment on the thread |
| 11:05.21 | Blub\w | :) |
| 11:05.38 | tordy | wel if i posted in them, i would break your cycle |
| 11:05.41 | tordy | would you be free? |
| 11:05.54 | Blub\w | tordy: don't do it, he's evil! |
| 11:05.56 | Blub\w | don't free him! |
| 11:06.15 | Blub\w | or BAAAAAAAAAAAAD THINGS will happen |
| 11:10.08 | RndmObjcts | anyone able to help me with a trigger problem? |
| 11:10.26 | RndmObjcts | i need a unit to use an ability every 30 seconds and i have no clue how to go about it. |
| 11:11.05 | tordy | autocast it? |
| 11:11.37 | RndmObjcts | yea |
| 11:16.52 | Xaragoth | tordy has left the building ~~ |
| 11:16.58 | Xaragoth | through the next window |
| 11:17.00 | Xaragoth | o/ |
| 11:17.03 | Agouti | don't do it in triggers |
| 11:17.07 | Agouti | there is your solution |
| 11:17.12 | Agouti | :P |
| 11:17.21 | Helral|Work | just set the autocast info at the ability. |
| 11:17.27 | Agouti | ^ |
| 11:17.40 | Helral|Work | and I think you also need to set the autocast flag for the ability. |
| 11:17.46 | Agouti | ^ |
| 11:18.00 | Helral|Work | and I think Agouti likes using '^' |
| 11:18.05 | Agouti | ^ |
| 11:18.11 | Agouti | xd |
| 11:18.13 | Agouti | xD * |
| 11:18.26 | Agouti | also, on the subject of abilities |
| 11:18.28 | Helral|Work | and Agouti owes me $1 if he replies to this with '^' |
| 11:18.35 | Agouti | >_> |
| 11:18.38 | Helral|Work | damn :) |
| 11:18.43 | Agouti | Yay! |
| 11:18.55 | Agouti | On the subject of abilities |
| 11:19.09 | Agouti | It annoys me that you can't have a Behaviour type without toggle |
| 11:19.19 | Agouti | I know it's trivial to go via effect |
| 11:19.21 | Helral|Work | hmmmm? |
| 11:19.35 | Agouti | Behaviour abilities don't have an Execute command |
| 11:19.41 | Agouti | so they aren't usable without toggle |
| 11:20.03 | Helral|Work | behaviors are either active or they aren't.... |
| 11:20.17 | Agouti | yes, but not all behaviours are toggled. |
| 11:20.26 | Agouti | some are applied with a cooldown |
| 11:20.37 | Helral|Work | gimmy an example ;p |
| 11:20.41 | Agouti | sprint. |
| 11:20.48 | Agouti | stim* |
| 11:20.49 | Helral|Work | Effect - instant. |
| 11:20.56 | Helral|Work | ;p |
| 11:20.59 | Agouti | [11:19:08] <Agouti> I know it's trivial to go via effect |
| 11:21.03 | Agouti | :P |
| 11:21.16 | Agouti | it just irritates me that you can't do it with behaviour |
| 11:21.19 | Agouti | sue me >_> |
| 11:21.23 | Helral|Work | ok |
| 11:21.31 | Helral|Work | sues Agouti for a fish |
| 11:21.45 | Agouti | dammit |
| 11:21.47 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 11:21.48 | Agouti | :O |
| 11:21.51 | Agouti | helral |
| 11:21.55 | Helral|Work | what? |
| 11:21.55 | Agouti | you brilliant bastard |
| 11:22.09 | Agouti | I've been trying to figure out for the last hour what I want for dinner |
| 11:22.12 | Helral|Work | gimmy fish :) |
| 11:22.19 | Agouti | just remembered got some lovely hoki in the freezer |
| 11:22.23 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 11:22.28 | Helral|Work | ya welcome then :) |
| 11:22.30 | Agouti | I leave a piece out cooked for you |
| 11:22.38 | Agouti | feel free to grab it at any time ^)^ |
| 11:22.41 | Agouti | ^_^* |
| 11:22.44 | Agouti | oh crap |
| 11:22.49 | Helral|Work | meows innocently. |
| 11:22.51 | Agouti | do I now owe you $4? |
| 11:23.02 | Helral|Work | nope, it wasn't in direct reply :( |
| 11:23.06 | Agouti | phew |
| 11:23.14 | Agouti | mmmm yummy fishies |
| 11:23.25 | Helral|Work | btw I left you a piece of the fish *burp* |
| 11:23.32 | Agouti | my kitties are more clever than they make out |
| 11:23.33 | RndmObjcts | ok i got it working :D |
| 11:23.39 | Agouti | they know when I pick up a tin of tuna |
| 11:23.42 | Agouti | not |
| 11:23.44 | Agouti | when I open |
| 11:23.51 | Agouti | when I get it out of the cupboard |
| 11:23.57 | Agouti | they are somehow instantly there |
| 11:23.59 | Helral|Work | ofcourse we do. |
| 11:24.06 | Agouti | I have no idea how |
| 11:24.08 | Helral|Work | our cat-sense tingles. |
| 11:24.30 | Agouti | at least I managed to finally find a dangly toy that can stand their abuse |
| 11:24.31 | Helral|Work | food-locker-being-opened-event triggers our cat-sense. |
| 11:24.37 | Agouti | a strip of rubber mat |
| 11:24.49 | Helral|Work | ow they'll get through it just you wait |
| 11:25.17 | Agouti | after that a bit or rope, maybe |
| 11:25.26 | Agouti | anyway time for fishies! |
| 11:43.12 | Xaragoth | SCU looks like fun |
| 11:43.23 | Xaragoth | sadly, US only right now, so i can't sneak into it. damn., |
| 11:43.35 | Agouti | what is it? |
| 11:45.04 | Xaragoth | the project that got a c&d letter by blizz |
| 11:45.12 | Xaragoth | http://starcraftuniverse.org/ |
| 11:46.26 | Agouti | Am I wrong for saying |
| 11:46.33 | Agouti | it looks like a waste of time? |
| 11:46.58 | Agouti | it seems like an awful lot of effort to clone an RPG |
| 11:47.06 | Agouti | when there are so many out there already |
| 11:47.12 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.noteflight.com/scores/view/28cd0cb7027697a7d26f041b58adab2eee60c879 |
| 11:47.19 | HP-X|Arthas | anyone know where this song is from? |
| 11:47.45 | Xaragoth | it still looks like fun |
| 11:48.09 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mmUbSsHmiQ |
| 11:48.10 | Xaragoth | see here |
| 11:48.22 | Agouti | that looks familiar arthas |
| 11:48.27 | Agouti | *waits for it to play* |
| 11:48.27 | HP-X|Arthas | Agouti: indeed |
| 11:48.31 | HP-X|Arthas | cant put my finger on what it is |
| 11:48.35 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 11:48.39 | Xaragoth | no idea what is is |
| 11:48.41 | Xaragoth | but if you find it |
| 11:48.43 | Xaragoth | let me know |
| 11:49.00 | HP-X|Arthas | will do |
| 11:49.06 | Agouti | er, it looked more familiar than it sounded |
| 11:49.13 | Agouti | maybe it's in a different key |
| 11:50.11 | Agouti | the opening sounds a bit like a old muse song |
| 11:50.13 | Agouti | actually |
| 11:50.15 | Agouti | un momento |
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| 11:55.50 | Agouti | not quite |
| 11:56.17 | Agouti | what I thought it might of been was the opening of Map of the Problematique |
| 11:56.57 | Agouti | It might not actually _be_ from anything ;) |
| 11:57.15 | Xaragoth | i want it to be from something 8[ |
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| 11:59.29 | Agouti | why's that? |
| 12:00.33 | HP-X|Arthas | it has to be from something |
| 12:00.37 | HP-X|Arthas | sounds so familiar :p |
| 12:01.23 | Agouti | It really feels like a muse opening |
| 12:01.29 | Agouti | but the song I thought it was for |
| 12:01.34 | Agouti | it's not it |
| 12:02.08 | HP-X|Arthas | ah |
| 12:02.12 | HP-X|Arthas | hmm |
| 12:03.33 | Agouti | ah |
| 12:03.44 | Agouti | it follows the same chord progression as like 3 of their songs |
| 12:03.46 | Agouti | haha... |
| 12:03.53 | Agouti | maybe that is where I'm getting it from |
| 12:06.45 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 12:06.52 | HP-X|Arthas | does not help :'( |
| 12:08.34 | Deaod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcPoyqoanRY |
| 12:08.35 | Deaod | tehre |
| 12:08.39 | Deaod | there* |
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| 12:09.56 | Agouti | aha |
| 12:10.02 | Agouti | UI found another song it sounds a bit like... |
| 12:10.13 | Agouti | though it isn't |
| 12:10.23 | Agouti | Weird Fishes/Apeggi by RadioHead |
| 12:10.53 | Agouti | Oh well if nothing else I got to rediscover music I hadn't listened to in years :D |
| 12:12.23 | HP-X|Arthas | hmm |
| 12:12.34 | Deaod | doesnt quite fit... |
| 12:12.53 | Deaod | the one i posted, i mean |
| 12:12.55 | Agouti | those were the 2 it reminded me of |
| 12:13.25 | Agouti | yours sounds spot on Deaod |
| 12:13.29 | HP-X|Arthas | yeah |
| 12:13.31 | HP-X|Arthas | i think so too |
| 12:14.25 | RndmObjcts | ok i need more ability help lol.. ive created a burrow.. i have both the regular unit and the burrowed unit made which are basically the same but the burrowed cant do anything but move basically and unborrow.. but when i use the ability it doesnt actually burrow the unit it creates the (burrowed) unit but it doesnt burrow him, i think ive added all the correct evens to the actor, it creates the burrowed effect under the unit b |
| 12:14.26 | HP-X|Arthas | thanks Deaod |
| 12:14.29 | RndmObjcts | to help explain if needed |
| 12:14.30 | HP-X|Arthas | :) |
| 12:14.38 | Agouti | well |
| 12:14.44 | Agouti | the opening bars anyway |
| 12:14.49 | Deaod | exactly |
| 12:15.03 | Deaod | bars 7 onwards dont fit |
| 12:16.27 | Deaod | what is that site, anyway? |
| 12:16.33 | HP-X|Arthas | no idea |
| 12:16.49 | HP-X|Arthas | got a link from someone who asked where it was from |
| 12:16.50 | Agouti | oh man |
| 12:16.54 | Agouti | that piece of fish |
| 12:16.57 | HP-X|Arthas | song got stuck in head = curses |
| 12:17.03 | Agouti | was everything it smelt like it would be |
| 12:20.19 | HP-X|Arthas | good or bad? =p |
| 12:22.28 | Deaod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVek662L86M |
| 12:22.37 | Deaod | this one fits even better |
| 12:23.38 | Xaragoth | it could actually be that... |
| 12:23.41 | HP-X|Arthas | hmmm |
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| 12:24.33 | Xaragoth | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0cdT_lpxMM |
| 12:24.35 | Xaragoth | there we go |
| 12:25.22 | HP-X|Arthas | That explains both why it sounded so familiar |
| 12:25.28 | HP-X|Arthas | and why i was unable to pinpoint it |
| 12:26.13 | HP-X|Arthas | awesome thanks again ^^ |
| 12:26.14 | Nash|327 | give me kittuns |
| 12:26.36 | Deaod | takes Nash's kittens away. |
| 12:26.43 | Nash|327 | give me kittuns |
| 12:26.52 | Nash|327 | or die |
| 12:27.01 | Deaod | dies. |
| 12:27.13 | Nash|327 | 1 down |
| 12:27.22 | HP-X|Arthas | I just found The Incredible Machine (1) for 3do |
| 12:27.25 | HP-X|Arthas | in my storage :D |
| 12:27.28 | Deaod | zombie apocalypse! |
| 12:27.31 | Deaod | resurrects |
| 12:27.50 | Nash|327 | give me kittuns |
| 12:28.00 | Nash|327 | kittuns |
| 12:28.05 | Nash|327 | give me |
| 12:28.08 | Deaod | kittens! |
| 12:28.14 | HP-X|Arthas | "Hear live musicians in startling CD sound!" |
| 12:28.15 | HP-X|Arthas | :D |
| 12:28.24 | Deaod | lol. |
| 12:28.27 | Nash|327 | 'tuns |
| 12:28.31 | Deaod | E |
| 12:28.38 | Deaod | theres a fkn E |
| 12:28.52 | Nash|327 | tunes? |
| 12:28.56 | Nash|327 | that is something else |
| 12:29.10 | Deaod | KITTENS |
| 12:29.17 | Nash|327 | KITTUNS |
| 12:30.06 | HP-X|Arthas | Deaod: the person who first wanted to know what song it was sends his kudos to you Deaod :p |
| 12:30.15 | Deaod | thanks |
| 12:30.35 | Deaod | ive watched those movies too often |
| 12:30.35 | Nash|327 | 'tunny 'tuns of greater 'tunness |
| 12:30.58 | Deaod | also, listened to the OST of the first too many times |
| 12:31.01 | HP-X|Arthas | hehe |
| 12:31.18 | HP-X|Arthas | The same is true for me if you would talk about the lion king :p |
| 12:31.21 | HP-X|Arthas | also hans zimmer |
| 12:31.25 | Nash|327 | PONIES |
| 12:31.26 | HP-X|Arthas | the man is a genius |
| 12:31.30 | Deaod | yeah |
| 12:31.49 | HP-X|Arthas | Nash|327: since i dont have @ you get away with the P-word this time |
| 12:32.01 | HP-X|Arthas | "-!- #sc2mapster You're not channel operator" |
| 12:32.03 | Deaod | PotC |
| 12:32.21 | Deaod | though Badelt composed the theme music |
| 12:32.56 | Deaod | but Zimmer scored so many movies, its scary |
| 12:33.38 | HP-X|Arthas | yup |
| 12:34.32 | HP-X|Arthas | he did the new batman movies right? |
| 12:34.41 | Deaod | i think so, yeah |
| 12:34.50 | HP-X|Arthas | pirates, gladiator, the rock |
| 12:34.52 | HP-X|Arthas | last samurai |
| 12:34.59 | HP-X|Arthas | from the top of my head :p |
| 12:35.01 | Deaod | inception |
| 12:35.03 | Agouti | lol nash |
| 12:35.05 | HP-X|Arthas | its a shitload of movies |
| 12:35.06 | HP-X|Arthas | yeah |
| 12:35.25 | HP-X|Arthas | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hans_Zimmer_discography |
| 12:35.26 | HP-X|Arthas | LOL |
| 12:35.37 | HP-X|Arthas | one or two movie scores |
| 12:36.51 | Helral|Work | Sherlock Holmes ;p |
| 12:36.59 | HP-X|Arthas | did not like that movie |
| 12:37.00 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 12:37.11 | Deaod | Downey Jr. |
| 12:37.14 | HP-X|Arthas | yup |
| 12:37.22 | Deaod | mmmmmh |
| 12:37.28 | Deaod | Iron Man |
| 12:37.30 | HP-X|Arthas | didnt like iron man 2 either |
| 12:37.38 | HP-X|Arthas | although i liked first iron man more than batman |
| 12:37.59 | Deaod | 2 was worse than 1, definitely |
| 12:38.03 | HP-X|Arthas | Oh the amounts of crap I had to take for that and picking batman from 89 over the re-boots |
| 12:38.42 | HP-X|Arthas | but not as much crap as I got for saying expendables was an "ok" movie, bordering to crap action :p |
| 12:39.00 | Deaod | havent seen that one |
| 12:39.38 | HP-X|Arthas | have you followed the new line of movies with thor etc then? |
| 12:39.50 | HP-X|Arthas | or hmm |
| 12:40.02 | HP-X|Arthas | green lantern / captain america, are they even released yet |
| 12:40.17 | Deaod | apart from Iron Man 1 and 2 i havent seen any comic based movies in recent years |
| 12:40.33 | HP-X|Arthas | hmm |
| 12:40.34 | RndmObjcts | can anyone help me with this custom burrow? xD |
| 12:40.40 | Deaod | oh, and the second batman movie |
| 12:40.56 | HP-X|Arthas | what is it called, that guy with a black shirt with a skull |
| 12:41.06 | Deaod | Ghost Rider? |
| 12:41.08 | HP-X|Arthas | no |
| 12:41.11 | Deaod | hmmm |
| 12:41.16 | HP-X|Arthas | although ghost rider 2 is coming |
| 12:41.17 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 12:41.20 | HP-X|Arthas | for some reason |
| 12:41.30 | Deaod | hmmm |
| 12:41.36 | HP-X|Arthas | punisher |
| 12:41.41 | HP-X|Arthas | first one was crap |
| 12:41.47 | HP-X|Arthas | but i did really like Punisher War Zone |
| 12:42.36 | HP-X|Arthas | also waiting for deadpool movie :p |
| 12:43.25 | Nash|327 | Ponies? |
| 12:44.13 | HP-X|Arthas | Hmm |
| 12:44.16 | HP-X|Arthas | still no @ |
| 12:44.18 | HP-X|Arthas | :| |
| 12:44.34 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x8bZJPovUQ |
| 12:44.35 | HP-X|Arthas | for you nash |
| 12:45.15 | HP-X|Arthas | DIE PONIES |
| 12:46.22 | Deaod | unicorns! |
| 12:46.40 | HP-X|Arthas | unicorns > ponies |
| 12:47.13 | Deaod | AAAAALLLWAAAAYS I WANNA BEEEEEE WITH YOUUUU |
| 12:47.27 | Deaod | sorry, my mind has strange associations |
| 12:47.30 | Nash|327 | Twilight Sparkle you mean? |
| 12:47.48 | HP-X|Arthas | ewwww twilight :p |
| 12:48.48 | Nash|327 | Twilight Sparkle is a unicorn and so is Rarity! |
| 12:49.32 | HP-X|Arthas | Generosity - Online |
| 12:49.48 | HP-X|Arthas | High orbit laser cannons |
| 12:49.56 | HP-X|Arthas | cool stuffs! |
| 12:51.43 | Agouti | the music makes that video |
| 12:52.09 | Nash|327 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrPte1uijDw |
| 12:52.12 | Nash|327 | mwahahaha |
| 12:53.32 | Deaod | what the! |
| 12:54.08 | Deaod | who is this show for? |
| 12:55.05 | Nash|327 | little girls and teenage/adult males |
| 12:55.38 | Deaod | i doubt they intended it for the second group |
| 12:55.43 | Deaod | it just happened |
| 12:55.50 | Deaod | hilarious. |
| 12:56.05 | Nash|327 | pretty much |
| 12:56.38 | Agouti | the only reason it is enjoyed by an older audience |
| 12:56.41 | Agouti | I've decided |
| 12:57.02 | Agouti | is mainly the reaction images |
| 12:57.26 | Nash|327 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1HZp4ClFXY |
| 12:57.28 | Agouti | that and the characters often remind you fo someone |
| 12:57.29 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 12:57.38 | Agouti | the shows themselves are kinda bad |
| 12:57.42 | Agouti | to actually watch |
| 12:58.22 | Agouti | O_o @ link |
| 12:58.22 | Agouti | nty |
| 12:59.58 | Agouti | is there a cleaner way to replace the interface response sounds |
| 13:00.03 | Agouti | like More minerals required |
| 13:00.17 | Agouti | rather than modifying all the Sound objects that it uses? |
| 13:00.34 | Deaod | yeah, import a new version of the file' |
| 13:00.34 | Agouti | like f.e. Alert_ProtossNeedMoreMinerals Liberty.SC2Mod Protoss Alert |
| 13:00.42 | Deaod | not necessarily cleaner |
| 13:00.42 | Agouti | hmm |
| 13:00.48 | Deaod | but it should be easier |
| 13:01.01 | Agouti | Modifying the sound objects is easy enough |
| 13:01.22 | Agouti | was thinking there may have been a spot where you could set the sound objects used |
| 13:01.29 | Agouti | don't see any reason for their to be, though |
| 13:02.41 | Agouti | oh, there is |
| 13:02.44 | Agouti | under Alerts |
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| 13:29.02 | Nash|327 | Handeth me thine tiny kittuns |
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| 13:34.04 | RndmObjcts | anyone know how to make a unit follow the unit that created it? |
| 13:34.27 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 13:34.34 | Nash|327 | magic |
| 13:34.38 | RndmObjcts | -_- |
| 13:34.42 | Nash|327 | also, a spawn effect |
| 13:34.47 | Nash|327 | apply behavior |
| 13:35.12 | Nash|327 | periodically issue order to attack or move to caster |
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| 13:36.09 | Nash|327 | oakmeal |
| 13:37.50 | RndmObjcts | so under "Effect - Effect - Spawn" i need to put the periodic behavior? |
| 13:38.17 | Nash|327 | yarp |
| 13:38.53 | XorioZ | Kittuns |
| 13:39.01 | Nash|327 | kittuns indeed |
| 13:39.27 | XorioZ | hmm. he who must not be named is not on? |
| 13:39.44 | XorioZ | havent he been on for some time now? |
| 13:39.54 | Nash|327 | thou shalt not speaketh of the cold one |
| 13:39.56 | RndmObjcts | ok so the effect is issue order but whats the behavior? xD |
| 13:40.11 | Nash|327 | some buff |
| 13:40.14 | XorioZ | wanted to give him a modified marine with walk attack animation |
| 13:40.31 | Nash|327 | DON'T DO IT |
| 13:41.35 | XorioZ | well there is no animation as such. it is just a marine with some empty sequences in it so he can get on with his project |
| 13:41.58 | Nash|327 | thou shalt not help the cold one |
| 13:42.46 | XorioZ | tried to do some bone animation but as soon as i started to manipulate the bones for the new sequence it fucked up the other sequences. |
| 13:43.42 | XorioZ | once i get that problem solved i can do custom animations on any m3 model i choose :) |
| 13:44.01 | RndmObjcts | ok im not doing it right lol |
| 13:44.32 | Nash|327 | create unit > apply behavior > buff > issue order |
| 13:46.22 | XorioZ | hmm. nash. do you have an idea why my trigger view suddenly is backwards. bottom to top instead of top to bottom? |
| 13:46.33 | RndmObjcts | i have an ability that just creates 4 units every thirty seconds with just one effect |
| 13:46.39 | Nash|327 | your "trigger view"? |
| 13:46.49 | XorioZ | yea the list view |
| 13:46.58 | Nash|327 | what list |
| 13:47.21 | XorioZ | the list that shows all the triggers folders functions and so on. |
| 13:47.36 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 13:48.05 | XorioZ | fx. my map initialization trigger is at bottom of list instead of top of list. |
| 13:48.17 | Nash|327 | some stuff, like the action list, you can click the bar at the top to sort differently |
| 13:48.25 | Nash|327 | maybe same goes for that? |
| 13:48.37 | Nash|327 | some sort of sorting setting you fucked with? |
| 13:49.32 | XorioZ | did nothing. |
| 13:49.35 | XorioZ | saved the map |
| 13:49.40 | XorioZ | closed the editor |
| 13:49.53 | Nash|327 | you dun goofed |
| 13:49.53 | XorioZ | and when i reopened the editor and map it was like this |
| 13:51.07 | XorioZ | well it has no real impact on what I'm doing except reading it from bottom to top is a bit annoying |
| 13:51.32 | Nash|327 | kittuns are sad :( |
| 13:51.46 | XorioZ | say what now? |
| 13:52.16 | Nash|327 | kittuns are sad because your editor got fucked up |
| 13:52.21 | Helral|Afk | XorioZ: turn your screen upside down.... |
| 13:52.25 | Helral|Afk | :P |
| 13:52.29 | Agouti | well, that is annoying |
| 13:52.39 | Agouti | I took the time to add all these replacement sound effects |
| 13:52.51 | Agouti | then change them in the General conversation |
| 13:52.56 | Agouti | as well as the text |
| 13:53.00 | Agouti | which is so slow to do |
| 13:53.07 | Agouti | aaaaand it made no difference |
| 13:53.20 | Agouti | Troll GE: Bait Successful |
| 13:53.30 | Helral|Afk | Agouti: no sounds suddenly getting cut off? |
| 13:53.40 | Agouti | both alert and sound unchanged |
| 13:54.04 | Agouti | so I need to change the sound object itself |
| 13:54.10 | Agouti | since it's not possible to set it |
| 13:56.01 | Agouti | or at any rate, I can't see where to set it |
| 13:56.10 | Helral|Afk | btw Agouti: you just bumped into the same problem as phoenix did when your helping didn t do anything. |
| 13:56.10 | Agouti | I'll work out the text later |
| 13:56.32 | Agouti | hmmm? |
| 13:56.41 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: this is the ability, im confused on where to add things and what to make them xD http://i51.tinypic.com/10onsbq.png |
| 13:56.44 | Helral|Afk | text is prolly listed in the text editor. |
| 13:57.10 | Agouti | well yes |
| 13:57.15 | Agouti | the difference is helral |
| 13:57.21 | Agouti | I tried to do it a "neat" way |
| 13:57.21 | Nash|327 | BanelingFollow (Unknown)? |
| 13:57.35 | RndmObjcts | yea that was my failed attempt lol |
| 13:57.37 | Agouti | then went "oh well, I'll do it the equally obvious but fugly way" |
| 13:57.51 | Agouti | I was merely commenting to the world at large. |
| 13:58.14 | Agouti | As for Phoenix, he was quite capable of working out the solution for himself - I know this for a fact |
| 13:58.20 | Agouti | he was just being lazy |
| 13:58.36 | Nash|327 | make another attempt |
| 13:58.44 | Nash|327 | and don't fail this time D: |
| 13:58.51 | RndmObjcts | xD |
| 13:59.25 | RndmObjcts | well i made an effect of issue order but it didnt do anything xD |
| 13:59.46 | Agouti | I've seen it done before |
| 13:59.52 | Nash|327 | what, no buff? |
| 13:59.55 | Agouti | the best solution seems to be a persistant effect |
| 14:00.06 | Agouti | as caster/target get a little screwed with buffs |
| 14:00.17 | Nash|327 | naw, works fine |
| 14:00.18 | Agouti | or use a buff but go via a persistent |
| 14:00.32 | RndmObjcts | yea i dont know what to do with the buff lol |
| 14:00.34 | Agouti | and just get it to order an attack move with a random offset |
| 14:00.35 | Nash|327 | I have a mind control type skill |
| 14:00.38 | Agouti | to the caster |
| 14:00.45 | Nash|327 | that makes the mind controlled unit follow caster |
| 14:00.46 | RndmObjcts | i'll try again |
| 14:00.53 | Nash|327 | apply buff |
| 14:01.01 | Nash|327 | buff has periodic effect |
| 14:01.20 | Nash|327 | periodic effect issues order to follow caster |
| 14:02.39 | RndmObjcts | and under what do i have it follow caster in the effect "Effect - Player +"? |
| 14:03.08 | Nash|327 | in the what now? |
| 14:03.20 | RndmObjcts | or "Target - Target +" |
| 14:03.33 | RndmObjcts | in the effect, what do i set the follow caster to? |
| 14:03.48 | RndmObjcts | under target or effect player or...? lol |
| 14:03.59 | Nash|327 | I shall screenshot my issue order effect |
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| 14:05.55 | Nash|327 | http://i.imgur.com/zKHc7.png |
| 14:07.12 | Nash|327 | follows caster of Confuse Timed Life (Apply), which is the effect that applies the buff |
| 14:10.19 | statharas | *sigh* |
| 14:10.25 | statharas | how did i achieve this |
| 14:10.53 | statharas | You know where every project has all spots(most) filled in except modelers? |
| 14:10.57 | RndmObjcts | ok so how to i attach the behavior to the ability? xD |
| 14:11.00 | RndmObjcts | do* |
| 14:11.20 | Nash|327 | you apply it with spawn effect |
| 14:11.23 | statharas | I have the exact opposite. I have 3 modelers and maaaaaaybe one sound artist |
| 14:12.51 | RndmObjcts | how? lol the spawn effect is of the type create unit and there isnt anything in it for behavior |
| 14:13.23 | Nash|327 | uh |
| 14:13.31 | Nash|327 | silly filly |
| 14:13.40 | Nash|327 | there's a spawn effect field in create unit |
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| 14:16.53 | RndmObjcts | ok give me a minute im going to put all these together and show you lol |
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| 14:17.40 | Ashamed_ | oops |
| 14:17.58 | Ashamed_ | good morning |
| 14:18.43 | Nash|327 | ~seen hawker |
| 14:18.56 | purl | hawker <63e9c492@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.233.196.146> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 6h 36m 40s ago, saying: 'Everything is down in the pit'. |
| 14:18.56 | Ashamed_ | he is dead :( |
| 14:19.03 | Ashamed_ | see |
| 14:19.09 | Ashamed_ | he is in a pit :( |
| 14:19.21 | Nash|327 | He can't be dead, he's got terrain to make D:< |
| 14:19.33 | Nash|327 | zug zug |
| 14:20.25 | Ashamed_ | sux nash |
| 14:20.33 | Ashamed_ | looks like you will have a terrianless map |
| 14:20.41 | Nash|327 | NEVER |
| 14:20.46 | Ashamed_ | :( |
| 14:20.56 | Nash|327 | I KILL YOU |
| 14:21.13 | Ashamed_ | why kill me :( don't shoot themessenger |
| 14:21.33 | Agouti | more work? |
| 14:21.36 | Agouti | off I go then |
| 14:21.39 | Nash|327 | I want to shoot someone. |
| 14:21.50 | Nash|327 | And you're nearby. |
| 14:22.02 | Ashamed_ | i am most certainly not close by |
| 14:22.02 | Agouti | do not shoot my kittuns >:-| |
| 14:22.20 | Nash|327 | No kittuns will be harmed during the making of this massacre. |
| 14:22.26 | Nash|327 | pewpew |
| 14:23.06 | Ashamed_ | it just so happens to be that i have 5 kittun hostages |
| 14:23.28 | Nash|327 | D: |
| 14:23.33 | Nash|327 | RELEASE THE HOSTAGES |
| 14:24.02 | Ashamed_ | I NEED A RANSOM!! 1 MIL PER KITTUN |
| 14:24.22 | Nash|327 | I'm broke. |
| 14:27.08 | Ashamed_ | well this is the rule |
| 14:27.30 | Ashamed_ | its either i can kill all the kittuns to bring your ransom to 0.... and you can avenge your kittuns deaths |
| 14:27.49 | Ashamed_ | or you can come up with 1-mil per cat and how much you can't come up with will just result in me killing a kittun |
| 14:27.54 | Ashamed_ | your choice... |
| 14:28.07 | Nash|327 | I choose option 3. |
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| 14:28.14 | Nash|327 | Kittuns kill YOU! |
| 14:28.19 | Ashamed_ | oh shiz the hero option |
| 14:28.26 | SBeier | Hello |
| 14:28.27 | Ashamed_ | kittuned attacked :( |
| 14:30.10 | Nash|327 | Never take kittuns hostages. |
| 14:30.31 | Ashamed_ | i shall remember this in my next life |
| 14:30.46 | Nash|327 | mwahahahaha |
| 14:31.07 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/18/876/Banelingskill001.jpg and keep in mind i had it to attack to but it didnt work like that either so i tried move |
| 14:32.55 | Nash|327 | your period is set to 0 |
| 14:33.45 | Agouti | Why can't we have a Find function in the text editor? |
| 14:33.52 | Agouti | I'm sure there used to be one |
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| 14:35.14 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: i changed it back to attack and the period to 1 and it still doesnt work D: |
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| 14:36.33 | Nash|327 | try changing target effect to the apply behavior |
| 14:37.41 | RndmObjcts | nope |
| 14:37.51 | Nash|327 | uh, I see why |
| 14:38.05 | Nash|327 | you set spawn effect to issue order |
| 14:38.07 | Ashamed_ | oh man nash seez it |
| 14:38.09 | Nash|327 | not apply |
| 14:38.10 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 14:38.12 | Ashamed_ | :( WHAT |
| 14:38.40 | Nash|327 | you never apply buff D_D |
| 14:40.18 | Agouti | I wish blizzard would fix the load screen tips already |
| 14:40.23 | Agouti | V_V |
| 14:41.33 | Ashamed_ | i rather blizzard fix other things >< |
| 14:41.54 | Agouti | oh? which particular bugs are haunting you? |
| 14:42.04 | Nash|327 | I know, there are no kittuns |
| 14:42.10 | RndmObjcts | oh ok i skipped that part altogether |
| 14:42.19 | Agouti | there are kittuns nash |
| 14:42.20 | Agouti | silly |
| 14:42.28 | Ashamed_ | no kittuns :(( |
| 14:42.40 | Agouti | Predator |
| 14:42.44 | Agouti | zing |
| 14:42.54 | Nash|327 | robotic 'tuns |
| 14:43.01 | Nash|327 | it's just not the same D; |
| 14:43.07 | Agouti | they are better |
| 14:43.09 | Agouti | meaner |
| 14:43.10 | Ashamed_ | they have dogs |
| 14:43.15 | Ashamed_ | but no kittuns :(( |
| 14:43.28 | Nash|327 | DISCRIMINATION |
| 14:43.40 | Agouti | they have a giant robokittun |
| 14:43.41 | Ashamed_ | YEAH |
| 14:43.42 | Nash|327 | I must import WoW kittuns :G |
| 14:43.42 | Agouti | that is like |
| 14:43.45 | Agouti | superkittun |
| 14:43.53 | Ashamed_ | I DONT WANT SUPERKITTUN |
| 14:44.00 | Nash|327 | real kittuns > anything |
| 14:44.14 | Nash|327 | You can't improve upon perfection. |
| 14:44.50 | Agouti | CHRIST |
| 14:45.07 | Ashamed_ | christ sux compare to kittuns |
| 14:45.09 | Nash|327 | KITTUN |
| 14:45.09 | Agouti | worst sorting algorithm ever @ text editor |
| 14:46.37 | Statharas | No, this > everything |
| 14:46.38 | Statharas | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/932170/Hive/apple.png |
| 14:47.04 | Nash|327 | 404 is not epic |
| 14:47.10 | Nash|327 | KITTUNS ARE EPIC |
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| 14:47.34 | Nash|327 | A KITTUN IN A BAG |
| 14:48.02 | Statharas | reload it :v |
| 14:48.22 | Nash|327 | PONIES |
| 14:48.56 | Nash|327 | Kittuns are better than ponies though. |
| 14:49.29 | Nash|327 | Also, Twilight Sparkle > Applejack |
| 14:51.12 | Agouti | rainbow dash > all |
| 14:51.19 | Agouti | not that I'm into that stuff |
| 14:51.21 | Agouti | also |
| 14:51.23 | Agouti | WTF GE |
| 14:51.25 | Nash|327 | suuure |
| 14:51.29 | Agouti | randomly undo shit more |
| 14:51.30 | Agouti | seriously |
| 14:51.38 | Agouti | went to find an ability I made the other day |
| 14:51.40 | Agouti | gone |
| 14:51.42 | Agouti | without a trace |
| 14:51.46 | Nash|327 | more random than Pinkie Pie? |
| 14:51.52 | Agouti | now I'm trying to think |
| 14:51.59 | Agouti | what else could of been undone |
| 14:52.44 | Agouti | time to go through the changelog and double check everything |
| 14:53.09 | Nash|327 | you keep a changelog? |
| 14:57.07 | Agouti | well, yeah |
| 14:57.29 | Nash|327 | that sounds rather dedicated |
| 14:57.40 | Agouti | it's not that big a deal |
| 14:57.52 | Agouti | make a change, add it to the post in the changelog forum |
| 14:58.06 | Nash|327 | for EVERY change though :G |
| 14:58.06 | Agouti | copy & paste into the changelog in game when publish |
| 14:58.31 | Nash|327 | When I code and stuff I do way too many things to keep track |
| 14:58.46 | Agouti | you just got to do it as you go |
| 14:58.49 | Nash|327 | and I can't stop in the middle of doing stuff to write down changes |
| 14:59.01 | Nash|327 | That just breaks my focus :G |
| 14:59.05 | Agouti | obviously the level of detail doesn't need to be too fine |
| 14:59.08 | Agouti | for example |
| 14:59.16 | Agouti | "reworked menu interface" |
| 14:59.28 | Agouti | rather than listing every little change |
| 15:00.08 | Agouti | it also gives people a spot to protest against balance changes |
| 15:00.19 | Agouti | before it hits the shelves |
| 15:00.50 | Nash|327 | don't give them opportunity to do that! |
| 15:00.52 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 15:04.18 | Nash|327 | whiners gonna whine |
| 15:04.36 | Nash|327 | and everyone knows what's balanced best! |
| 15:04.45 | Nash|327 | especially the most clueless noobs |
| 15:05.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster Vailreth (~kvirc@75.108.215.142) |
| 15:05.44 | Vailreth | hallo every body |
| 15:05.53 | Nash|327 | Saw it all the time when I played Guild Wars :G |
| 15:07.04 | Nash|327 | Every self-proclaimed balance expert bitching about something being overpowered because they played one game at noob level and didn't know how to counter anything. |
| 15:10.32 | Agouti | sadly that is true |
| 15:10.55 | Agouti | GE has learnt a new trick |
| 15:10.57 | Agouti | it cannot save |
| 15:11.04 | Agouti | because the file is open |
| 15:11.06 | Agouti | BY GE |
| 15:11.11 | Nash|327 | haha |
| 15:11.13 | Agouti | have to save as a different name |
| 15:11.19 | Agouti | then save back as the original again @_@ |
| 15:11.42 | Nash|327 | the fuck is wrong with your GE |
| 15:11.53 | Vailreth | i have that issue too Agouti |
| 15:11.54 | Agouti | PeasantCannotBuildThere1.wav |
| 15:11.57 | Nash|327 | mine ACTUALLY WORKS :G |
| 15:12.10 | Agouti | mine is like a bitchy gf |
| 15:12.19 | Vailreth | are you working on a mod and a map that uses it is open? |
| 15:12.27 | Agouti | i get in trouble for doing what blizzard says, not what they mean |
| 15:12.40 | Agouti | nopies |
| 15:12.44 | Agouti | I had to drop my mod |
| 15:12.48 | Agouti | because of the drop bug |
| 15:12.57 | Agouti | no pun intented |
| 15:13.07 | Vailreth | hm what dropbug? |
| 15:13.31 | Agouti | the first time you use a custom map file in a session |
| 15:13.37 | Agouti | you have a chance of being dropped |
| 15:13.56 | Agouti | every time you try to load it |
| 15:14.13 | Agouti | once you load it successfully (don't get dropped) it's fine from then on |
| 15:14.18 | Vailreth | they really need to get on fixing that.. |
| 15:14.27 | Agouti | using a mod excacerbates it ten fold |
| 15:14.49 | Vailreth | yeah they REALLY need to get on fixing this... |
| 15:15.20 | Agouti | there is a login screen alert about it |
| 15:15.33 | Agouti | who knows how committed they really are |
| 15:15.43 | Agouti | most of the editor bugs are well documented |
| 15:15.49 | Agouti | none have as yet been fixed... |
| 15:15.51 | Vailreth | yeah. |
| 15:17.09 | Vailreth | is there a list of bugs i could take a look at? |
| 15:19.00 | Agouti | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/13437/ |
| 15:19.07 | Agouti | there are several lists |
| 15:19.16 | Agouti | they are by no means complete |
| 15:19.23 | Agouti | there are also several on sc2mapster |
| 15:19.49 | Nash|327 | no kittuns bug is the worst :( |
| 15:22.34 | Agouti | nash: http://i.imgur.com/0jYrY.png |
| 15:23.11 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 15:23.53 | Agouti | or perhaps your kittuns don't get their ear bent |
| 15:24.31 | Agouti | shit, I hit test document and then went to IRC while it loaded |
| 15:24.40 | Nash|327 | I demand kittun pics |
| 15:24.42 | Agouti | now I can't remember what I was testing |
| 15:24.55 | Nash|327 | D:! |
| 15:25.04 | Vailreth | i think i ve done that before |
| 15:25.31 | Agouti | I blame not going to bed at a respectable our |
| 15:25.34 | Agouti | hour* |
| 15:25.36 | Nash|327 | Time to test this trig... OOH SHINIES! |
| 15:25.42 | Agouti | ^ |
| 15:27.36 | Agouti | ugh, is it really too much to expect the loading tips to be settable? |
| 15:27.39 | Agouti | I mean seriously |
| 15:27.49 | Agouti | it has got to be a 30min fix tops |
| 15:28.12 | Nash|327 | You can't set tips? |
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| 15:29.19 | Agouti | Not that I have been able to work out. |
| 15:29.27 | Agouti | setting it under GameUI |
| 15:29.31 | Agouti | it just gets ignored |
| 15:29.54 | Nash|327 | You don't set it in map properties? |
| 15:30.14 | Agouti | tips, plural |
| 15:30.19 | Agouti | not tip, singular |
| 15:30.35 | Nash|327 | ah, random tips not possible? |
| 15:30.45 | Agouti | not that I can get to work |
| 15:30.49 | Agouti | the field is there |
| 15:30.55 | Agouti | and able to be modified |
| 15:31.01 | Agouti | but the changes are ignored |
| 15:31.19 | Nash|327 | not doable in text editor? |
| 15:31.36 | Agouti | strangely it doesn't seem so |
| 15:31.39 | Agouti | O_o |
| 15:34.03 | Agouti | and my OCD protests at not being able to remove the dud text links |
| 15:34.14 | Agouti | the ones without any reference in the game |
| 15:39.32 | Vailreth | Ago what is the issue you cant get custom tips to from the Default Sc2 Ui Settings? |
| 15:39.38 | Nash|327 | I wrote a bunch of loading tips :/ |
| 15:39.56 | Vailreth | to show> |
| 15:40.37 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 15:40.52 | Nash|327 | IT AWAKENS |
| 15:41.24 | Agouti | I can't believe the loading screen tips can't even be changed in the text editor |
| 15:41.51 | JademusSreg | Orly? |
| 15:41.57 | JademusSreg | How odd. |
| 15:42.05 | Vailreth | you can change them in the Default SC2 UI Settings... |
| 15:42.09 | Vailreth | atleast i can.. |
| 15:42.23 | Agouti | You can modify the field. |
| 15:42.41 | Agouti | [15:29:16] <Agouti> setting it under GameUI |
| 15:42.41 | Agouti | [15:29:20] <Agouti> it just gets ignored |
| 15:42.45 | Vailreth | i do not know if you can ADD any but you can change what the existing ones say. |
| 15:42.57 | Agouti | Again, incorrect. |
| 15:43.16 | Vailreth | no i did. |
| 15:43.33 | Agouti | I have tried it with every single patch |
| 15:43.40 | Agouti | including through the text editor |
| 15:43.48 | Agouti | modifying the text link directly |
| 15:43.50 | Agouti | without effect. |
| 15:44.01 | JademusSreg | That is doubly strange. |
| 15:46.19 | Agouti | I will now test with the field in the data editor reset to default, and the only change being in the text editor. |
| 15:47.45 | Vailreth | very strange because i have it working... |
| 15:47.54 | RipperRoo | Legend of Mapster: Jades Awakening ????? |
| 15:47.55 | Agouti | how have you modified them? |
| 15:48.04 | RipperRoo | sounds like a nintendo game somehow :P |
| 15:48.50 | RipperRoo | ok sorry i thought it was funny.. :S im quiet now.. |
| 15:49.20 | Nash|327 | Remind me to laugh at it tomorrow. |
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| 15:50.08 | Vailreth | i went into the UI settings for loading screen help text and changed the text assoicated with each key but left the keys alone |
| 15:50.28 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 15:51.17 | JademusSreg | Flattering as that is, I doubt I have legendary status. =D |
| 15:51.20 | Vailreth | unfortunetly that seems to modify the original as well not just a copy |
| 15:51.36 | Vailreth | so it changes the default to your custom text |
| 15:53.07 | Nash|327 | isn't that the point? |
| 15:53.35 | Vailreth | i mean it changes them parent text as well not just the new version |
| 15:53.48 | Vailreth | so if you restore to parent values those are changed as well |
| 15:54.17 | Nash|327 | Did you change race? |
| 15:55.13 | Vailreth | no |
| 15:55.48 | Nash|327 | D; |
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| 15:56.15 | Vailreth | ok i have a bit of awork around.. |
| 15:57.09 | Agouti | Nope, I purposely changed every single loading screen text |
| 15:57.24 | Agouti | without adding, removing or modifying text links |
| 15:57.28 | Agouti | or changing the race |
| 15:57.37 | Agouti | and the tips are still the melee ones. |
| 15:57.55 | Vailreth | weird i have custom ones, atleast when i testplay.... |
| 15:58.12 | Agouti | I'm all ears |
| 15:58.24 | Nash|327 | 100% ear |
| 15:58.28 | JademusSreg | Compare maps. |
| 15:58.42 | JademusSreg | See which one is larger, I mean, functional. |
| 15:58.53 | Nash|327 | Mine is larger! |
| 15:58.54 | Agouti | ? |
| 15:59.04 | Agouti | what has that got to do with anything Jade |
| 15:59.09 | Vailreth | this time i removed all of the existing entries and started creating new ones at the text link value of 52 |
| 15:59.10 | Agouti | this isn't a competition |
| 15:59.30 | Vailreth | and the new ones are showing ... |
| 16:00.03 | RipperRoo | peeeq peter o0 |
| 16:00.22 | Nash|327 | too tired |
| 16:00.23 | peeeq | hm? |
| 16:00.28 | Nash|327 | fuck off to bed |
| 16:00.38 | RipperRoo | bist hier und nicht bei uns im channel schämste dich nit ? :S |
| 16:00.45 | Nash|327 | NEIN! |
| 16:00.48 | RipperRoo | is searching for peeeq + goatsex on yahoo. WEEE 98 hits! |
| 16:01.01 | RipperRoo | nash dich hab ich nit gefragt^^ |
| 16:01.32 | Nash|327 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZeciX-3wfs |
| 16:01.34 | Agouti | I just did exactly that, Vailreth, no change |
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| 16:01.39 | JademusSreg | It's a martini, 1 part assistance, 1 part jest. |
| 16:01.42 | Nash|327 | NEIN! |
| 16:01.44 | WIz10011 | Hello. |
| 16:01.55 | RipperRoo | lol nash rammstein xD |
| 16:01.59 | Vailreth | hm i wonder you are on a map right? |
| 16:02.03 | JademusSreg | I mean that Vail should give you a copy of the map that functions. |
| 16:02.11 | Agouti | of course |
| 16:02.22 | Vailreth | let me make one i can share |
| 16:02.27 | WIz10011 | ~seen Sixen |
| 16:02.43 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (8d 11h 28m 25s) #wowhead (8d 11h 28m 25s) #wowuidev (8d 11h 28m 25s). Has said a total of 65 messages. Is idling for 2d 8h 16m 43s, last said: 'or july 10th'. |
| 16:02.43 | Agouti | if you could that would be much appreciated |
| 16:02.58 | Nash|327 | sleeptime |
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| 16:03.57 | Agouti | this crap shits me though |
| 16:04.08 | Agouti | entries in the text from writing out the links |
| 16:04.10 | Agouti | L= |
| 16:04.10 | Agouti | Lo= |
| 16:04.11 | Agouti | Loa= |
| 16:04.11 | Agouti | Loac= |
| 16:04.11 | Agouti | Load= |
| 16:04.11 | Agouti | Loadi= |
| 16:04.11 | Agouti | Loadin= |
| 16:04.12 | Agouti | Loading= |
| 16:04.12 | Agouti | LoadingS= |
| 16:04.13 | Agouti | LoadingSc= |
| 16:04.13 | Agouti | LoadingScr= |
| 16:04.14 | Agouti | LoadingScre= |
| 16:04.14 | Agouti | LoadingScree= |
| 16:04.15 | Agouti | LoadingScreen= |
| 16:04.34 | Vailreth | i think that Maps pull their loading screen text from the mods they use... |
| 16:04.43 | RipperRoo | u really have to load from loac to load ?? |
| 16:04.46 | Agouti | and the only way to delete them is to go into the MPQ by hand |
| 16:06.06 | Vailreth | the game doesnt clear empty text keys when saving? |
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| 16:06.15 | Deaod | http://pics.kuvaton.com/kuvei/skydiving_accident.jpg |
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| 16:06.23 | roflcopter | ne1 work with the editor AI..? |
| 16:06.38 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 16:06.47 | JademusSreg | There is no AI editor in SC2. |
| 16:07.05 | JademusSreg | Custom AI is integrated with triggers. |
| 16:07.11 | roflcopter | yeah i mean have u tried messing with ai creating units, etc |
| 16:07.15 | roflcopter | using triggers |
| 16:07.39 | roflcopter | like im trying to make a custom ai vs ai map, and want to calldown mules |
| 16:07.48 | roflcopter | but cant get it to work |
| 16:08.00 | Agouti | correct Vailreth. Or at least, it hasn't in the past, and doesn't do any house cleaning now. |
| 16:08.08 | roflcopter | tried issuing an ability with a point |
| 16:08.11 | Agouti | I've been working on the one map since november |
| 16:09.52 | JademusSreg | AIs use tactical think functions for their abilities mostly. |
| 16:10.10 | JademusSreg | Issuing direct orders for an AI undermines the entire point. |
| 16:11.03 | roflcopter | I see |
| 16:11.40 | JademusSreg | Tactical thionk functions are not visible to GUI users, of course; one would need to extract them from the mpqs to see them. |
| 16:12.11 | roflcopter | do u know which in which mpq they reside? |
| 16:12.36 | JademusSreg | I'll check., |
| 16:13.49 | JademusSreg | Pretty sure you can find them in Liberty, LibertyMulti (perhaps), and Campaign. |
| 16:14.22 | Vailreth | Agouti would i need to Localize the map before hosting it for you? |
| 16:14.53 | Vailreth | im in NA |
| 16:16.49 | Agouti | Vailreth: It is worth nothing that the loading bar tips never work on the first launch |
| 16:17.01 | Agouti | no, you shouldn't |
| 16:17.12 | Agouti | I have to restart to get them to display |
| 16:17.19 | Agouti | at which point they are always melee |
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| 16:17.46 | Vailreth | they display fine for me after multiple restarts |
| 16:18.58 | Vailreth | not sure what is wrong with your copy of the editor... |
| 16:19.02 | Agouti | It hates me |
| 16:19.21 | Vailreth | i have times like that too |
| 16:20.44 | Vailreth | would you like to see my map and tell me if the custom tip is loading on tyours? |
| 16:20.50 | Agouti | yes |
| 16:21.56 | Vailreth | http://www.box.net/shared/ojfe1169gyc5u92hfqao |
| 16:22.37 | Agouti | thanks |
| 16:23.08 | Vailreth | no problem i just hope it works on your end |
| 16:23.30 | Agouti | aha, there is a difference already |
| 16:23.41 | Agouti | you duplicated the settings, rather thank just modifying |
| 16:24.14 | Agouti | and no, the same thing is happening |
| 16:24.45 | Vailreth | something is messed up on your end |
| 16:25.05 | Agouti | while technically accurate that sadly doesn't help |
| 16:25.19 | Vailreth | indeed sorry. |
| 16:25.26 | Agouti | well, I tell a lie |
| 16:25.38 | Vailreth | what lie? |
| 16:25.38 | Agouti | it has helped, just not directly |
| 16:25.44 | Vailreth | ok? |
| 16:25.56 | burne- | I MUST HURRY |
| 16:26.03 | burne- | I might be able to get new goku for mapnight ! |
| 16:26.05 | burne- | or might not |
| 16:28.46 | Vailreth | this isnt good.... |
| 16:28.59 | burne- | NO ITS GOOD |
| 16:29.29 | Vailreth | some thing i have done has permanetly overwriten the default loading sccreen help texts |
| 16:29.52 | Agouti | O_o |
| 16:29.57 | Kueken | search them in the text editor |
| 16:30.04 | Kueken | ;) |
| 16:30.11 | Agouti | YOU |
| 16:30.12 | Agouti | LURKER |
| 16:30.21 | Agouti | I would reckognize that color name anywhere |
| 16:30.30 | Kueken | I take that as a compliment |
| 16:30.32 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 16:30.33 | Kueken | thanks |
| 16:30.34 | Agouti | points finger of accusation |
| 16:30.57 | Agouti | so vailreth, that map that you sent me |
| 16:31.05 | Agouti | you got the Custom Loading Text Goes Here! |
| 16:31.07 | Agouti | on loading? |
| 16:31.21 | Agouti | or w/e it was |
| 16:31.28 | Vailreth | i thought so at first |
| 16:31.49 | Vailreth | but i am using the same custom string as that is stuck in the defaults now |
| 16:33.07 | RipperRoo | its not the time to point fingers |
| 16:33.17 | RipperRoo | finger pointing leads us nowhere .. STEVE! |
| 16:34.15 | Vailreth | i am going to close and restart the editor and try and get things fresh |
| 16:34.22 | Agouti | points at RipperRoo |
| 16:34.24 | Agouti | HIM |
| 16:34.30 | Agouti | HE IS THE NON BELIEVER |
| 16:34.32 | RipperRoo | ^^ |
| 16:34.44 | RipperRoo | did u see me lay down the law?? i am the lawgiver... |
| 16:35.09 | Peon | We found a witch. May we burn her? |
| 16:35.12 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 16:35.21 | sidd_ | no |
| 16:35.30 | Agouti | OH |
| 16:35.31 | Agouti | YOU |
| 16:35.47 | Agouti | retargets pointing finger of accusation |
| 16:36.30 | JademusSreg | Finger of Accusation, 2 Colorless, Artifact |
| 16:36.58 | JademusSreg | Redirect target spell or effect to new target. |
| 16:37.12 | JademusSreg | *Tap, 1 Colorless |
| 16:38.18 | Agouti | ./"Him! It was him!" - accused/ |
| 16:38.29 | sidd_ | \;.,.;/ |
| 16:38.59 | Agouti | and |
| 16:39.00 | Agouti | http://www.myconfinedspace.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/Evil_Monkey_301.0.gif |
| 16:39.03 | Agouti | is the picture |
| 16:39.43 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 16:40.50 | Agouti | 'sides sidd_ |
| 16:41.04 | Agouti | when was the last time you actually did any map making? |
| 16:41.09 | Agouti | slacker |
| 16:41.58 | Agouti | Sixen, as our man with his ear to the ground |
| 16:42.03 | JademusSreg | Yesterday. |
| 16:42.14 | Agouti | is there any realistic chance of any of these bugs being fixed? |
| 16:42.39 | Vailreth | well this sucks i really did pearmenantly replace the default with ctsuom text...... |
| 16:42.50 | Agouti | ~seen Sixen |
| 16:42.54 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (8d 12h 8m 36s) #wowhead (8d 12h 8m 36s) #wowuidev (8d 12h 8m 36s). Has said a total of 65 messages. Is idling for 2d 8h 56m 54s, last said: 'or july 10th'. |
| 16:43.07 | Agouti | right |
| 16:43.30 | roflcopter | ~seen caz |
| 16:43.31 | purl | caz <0c12d4e4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.12.18.212.228> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 6h 22m 59s ago, saying: 'which will go till 2pm here'. |
| 16:44.16 | burne- | ~seen dresnia |
| 16:44.17 | purl | dresnia <~Miranda@94-225-205-79.access.telenet.be> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 7d 16h 28m 42s ago, saying: 'Cya guys :)'. |
| 16:44.27 | Vailreth | i am now trying to replair my install and if i have too repatch then i will test to see if the loading tool tips are fixed |
| 16:44.40 | roflcopter | anyone know of good AI tutorial?? |
| 16:45.32 | JademusSreg | Not aware of any. |
| 16:46.01 | JademusSreg | AI tutorials usually aren't written for years; the SC2 modding community is still too young. |
| 16:46.02 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 16:46.22 | Kueken | and too fragile :/ |
| 16:49.07 | Agouti | I must admit, I had higher hopes of Blizzard back when SC2 was still just lights in the sky |
| 16:49.47 | Agouti | Not so much in terms of SC2's functionality, more in terms of their level of commitment to the modding community |
| 16:49.54 | Agouti | given WC3's modding scene |
| 16:50.28 | Agouti | I've lost what sympathy I had for them having DotA trademarked from underneath them by Valve |
| 16:50.29 | JademusSreg | It's an issue of incentive versus the cost of investing. |
| 16:50.51 | Agouti | I had thought blizzard above that sort of petty accounting |
| 16:50.56 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 16:51.01 | Agouti | indeed |
| 16:51.03 | Agouti | how niave |
| 16:51.37 | Agouti | especially considering the time investment to fix most of these would have to be minimal at best |
| 16:51.38 | Agouti | I'm sure |
| 16:51.56 | Agouti | as much as I know nothing about the back end of SC2 I have done many years of coding |
| 16:52.09 | roflcopter | valve owns dota? rofloller |
| 16:52.17 | Agouti | Correct. |
| 16:52.26 | Agouti | Blizzard was a tad upset at the time |
| 16:52.37 | JademusSreg | It's part a larger issue, too: the viability of the SC2 Marketplace as a means of monetizing user-generated content. |
| 16:52.55 | Agouti | which I'm still very much against |
| 16:53.27 | JademusSreg | I opine that it is not viable. |
| 16:53.33 | Agouti | likewise |
| 16:53.43 | Vailreth | im going to have to reinstall.... |
| 16:54.03 | Agouti | the interesting question Vailreth |
| 16:54.10 | Agouti | is whether only you see the tips |
| 16:54.22 | Agouti | or whether whatever you have done is making it to bnet |
| 16:54.38 | Agouti | because if it is the latter I am quite prepared to do it |
| 16:54.58 | JademusSreg | The Marketplace ostensibly should provide high-quality content at cost, like an app store. However, there are severe technical constraits that limit the scope of what can be accomplished with exposed engine. |
| 16:55.29 | Agouti | I think payed content goes against the spirit of map making |
| 16:55.39 | Vailreth | recall how i said i had affected the default text tips... |
| 16:55.41 | JademusSreg | Even the highest quality maps within those constraints are not worth real monies, so I think the Marketplace is not viable. |
| 16:56.12 | Agouti | I've never expected money of any sort in return for my work |
| 16:56.15 | Vailreth | well through some bug i seem to have edited the default sc2multiplayer or core version of the file |
| 16:56.16 | Agouti | that is not why I do it |
| 16:56.55 | Vailreth | when i run a game from battlenet in sc2 it shows the custom loading tips |
| 16:57.09 | Agouti | I mean sure, if I could make some money off it without directly impacting the players |
| 16:57.17 | Agouti | a loading screen advertisement for example |
| 16:57.24 | Agouti | I might seriously consider it |
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| 16:57.32 | Agouti | but demanding that they pay to access content? |
| 16:57.43 | Agouti | I hate the freemium business model |
| 16:57.52 | JademusSreg | I will rephrase your sentiments to coincide with my own; Paid content goes against the spirit of map making as a hobby and art, but there is no reason why motivated and skilled individuals should not benefit financially from products of very high quality that results from their labor so long as others are willing to pay for that content. |
| 16:58.22 | Agouti | mmm |
| 16:58.24 | roflcopter | I get enjoyment from ppl just seeing what a bad ass map maker I am |
| 16:58.45 | roflcopter | no need to be millionaire |
| 16:58.50 | Agouti | (insert witty rebuttle here) |
| 16:58.51 | JademusSreg | My point is that there will not be maps for which many people will be willing to pay. |
| 16:59.04 | Agouti | what will be more likely Jade |
| 16:59.07 | JademusSreg | Because of the limits of the editor and engine as a platform. |
| 16:59.09 | Agouti | is freemium |
| 16:59.15 | Agouti | the map is free to play |
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| 16:59.21 | roflcopter | maybe if they were $1 a map or something |
| 16:59.25 | Agouti | but if you want access to /X/ upgrade |
| 16:59.31 | Agouti | or /Y/ race |
| 16:59.34 | JademusSreg | I wouldn't buy a single map for $1. |
| 16:59.35 | Agouti | that will be $2 |
| 16:59.42 | JademusSreg | Or even a penny. |
| 16:59.53 | roflcopter | thing is how do u tell what map to buy if u cant play it and see if its good |
| 17:00.06 | Agouti | No, but again, I highly doubt that will be what would ever happen for that reason |
| 17:00.09 | JademusSreg | Demos, trials? |
| 17:00.15 | Agouti | the way all these sucessful models work |
| 17:00.17 | Agouti | LoL |
| 17:00.28 | Agouti | any number of F2P JRPGs |
| 17:00.41 | Agouti | or Korean ones |
| 17:00.46 | Agouti | the game is free |
| 17:00.53 | JademusSreg | "I get enjoyment from ppl just seeing what a bad ass map maker I am" This. =D |
| 17:00.56 | Agouti | but you pay to access "premium" content |
| 17:01.06 | Agouti | and I hate it. |
| 17:01.18 | roflcopter | if only i was a bad ass mapper xD |
| 17:01.35 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 17:01.56 | roflcopter | man i dont understand this AI junk AT ALL |
| 17:02.34 | Agouti | perhaps you should avoid jumping in the deep end of the map making pool |
| 17:02.40 | Agouti | or in this case, 7 story cliff |
| 17:03.41 | roflcopter | :( |
| 17:05.40 | roflcopter | y no ai editor :< |
| 17:06.52 | Agouti | because I love life |
| 17:07.00 | Agouti | and want to live it free of insanity |
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| 17:09.57 | Vailreth | reinstalling |
| 17:11.40 | Agouti | nash |
| 17:11.54 | Agouti | oh noes he is gone |
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| 17:50.15 | ducky | hello, anyone on EU bored out of their mind who would like to playtest my maaap? |
| 17:50.26 | ducky | i'll give you free ducklings ;d |
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| 17:59.17 | thekill | hey |
| 17:59.25 | Cronos | humm server shutdown? |
| 17:59.28 | thekill | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.44 | thekill | by u i meant your hero |
| 17:59.46 | thekill | a hero unit |
| 18:00.09 | Cronos | in the data editor theres a priority thing |
| 18:00.15 | Cronos | you set a number value |
| 18:00.50 | Cronos | its per unit bases i think the higher the value the creeps will go after that unit |
| 18:01.20 | thekill | ahh ic |
| 18:01.25 | thekill | u mean attack target priority |
| 18:01.33 | Cronos | i think thats it |
| 18:01.44 | thekill | ok |
| 18:01.47 | Cronos | i have not done anything in the map editor for a long time |
| 18:01.49 | thekill | so if i set it higher or lower |
| 18:01.57 | thekill | for it to attack hero |
| 18:02.14 | thekill | i set it as high as 130 be4 like in sotis it still attacked hero i think |
| 18:02.29 | thekill | hey do i also have to make sure the acquired range is high too? |
| 18:02.45 | JademusSreg | Fun times. |
| 18:02.49 | Cronos | not sure |
| 18:02.52 | JademusSreg | Servers are getting a service update. |
| 18:02.57 | JademusSreg | Guess I'll be productive. |
| 18:03.03 | JademusSreg | What's up? |
| 18:03.21 | Cronos | not much was laddering but ya .. the shutdown :( |
| 18:03.40 | JademusSreg | I was playing my map, as usual. |
| 18:04.12 | thekill | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:04.32 | JademusSreg | lanuched the editor. |
| 18:04.40 | Cronos | im not sure .. have not done a whole lot with the editor |
| 18:04.50 | Cronos | i just knew there was the value lol |
| 18:04.56 | JademusSreg | Let's see what I can fiond. |
| 18:05.20 | JademusSreg | There is a Target Sort for priority. |
| 18:05.26 | JademusSreg | TSPriority |
| 18:05.32 | Cronos | stupid match making system and 5 placement games .... |
| 18:05.43 | Cronos | i went 5-0 but beat all siver and got plat |
| 18:06.12 | JademusSreg | So try giving the creep weapons the TSPriority target sort. |
| 18:06.38 | Mexa | Jademüsli! |
| 18:06.46 | thekill | waith whaa? |
| 18:06.51 | thekill | creep weapons to the tspriority? |
| 18:06.53 | JademusSreg | Mexalingadingding. |
| 18:07.12 | JademusSreg | Thek, what was unclear about that? =D |
| 18:07.20 | thekill | oh |
| 18:07.22 | thekill | ok hold on |
| 18:07.25 | JademusSreg | Weapons have a field Acquire Target sort |
| 18:07.32 | thekill | oh |
| 18:07.34 | thekill | really |
| 18:07.37 | JademusSreg | Add a tartget sort to it, TSPriority. |
| 18:07.38 | thekill | cool |
| 18:09.12 | thekill | f |
| 18:09.15 | JademusSreg | Then you can give creeps a higher target priority than heroes. |
| 18:09.38 | JademusSreg | That is done on the unit. Combat - Attack Target Priority. |
| 18:10.02 | roflscooter | C-3P0 + R2-D2 = The Force |
| 18:10.03 | Mexa | brb |
| 18:13.24 | thekill | wait |
| 18:13.39 | thekill | is TSpriority TARGET SLOTS priority? |
| 18:13.50 | JademusSreg | Target Sorts |
| 18:14.01 | JademusSreg | It sorts targets. |
| 18:14.47 | JademusSreg | Understand? |
| 18:17.32 | Vailreth | great now i can play maps at akk |
| 18:17.33 | Vailreth | all |
| 18:17.46 | roflscooter | cant? |
| 18:18.42 | Vailreth | yes cant |
| 18:18.44 | Vailreth | sorry |
| 18:18.52 | roflscooter | should be |
| 18:19.10 | roflscooter | ;D |
| 18:19.10 | Vailreth | the game is saying the default dependencies are not a vailiable |
| 18:19.38 | roflscooter | double you tea F? |
| 18:20.04 | Vailreth | ? |
| 18:20.16 | roflscooter | w t f? |
| 18:20.20 | Vailreth | ah |
| 18:20.55 | Vailreth | yeah i messed something up and had to reinstall and NOW no maps will load with that error |
| 18:21.20 | roflscooter | editing mpqs..? |
| 18:21.25 | Vailreth | no |
| 18:21.56 | Vailreth | the editor bugged and edited some core file instead of a local map version |
| 18:23.24 | roflscooter | yikes |
| 18:23.39 | Vailreth | yes |
| 18:24.16 | JademusSreg | Sounds like something worth reporting. |
| 18:25.49 | Vailreth | i will if its still doing the same after this next service update |
| 18:28.49 | Vailreth | ah i was able to fix it by deleating the variables file |
| 18:29.01 | Vailreth | in my documents starcraft2 |
| 18:29.02 | Shadow_Killer | OWLY! |
| 18:31.23 | roflscooter | some1 needs to have a mapping stream :D |
| 18:31.40 | Vailreth | well i do have a Justin Tv Acoount |
| 18:31.49 | Vailreth | thanks for your supporyt |
| 18:32.13 | roflscooter | u stream mapmaking? |
| 18:32.32 | Vailreth | i will be |
| 18:32.37 | roflscooter | nice |
| 18:32.43 | Vailreth | but there is already SC2 Streamster |
| 18:32.44 | roflscooter | i will watch u |
| 18:32.53 | Vailreth | ah thanks |
| 18:32.58 | roflscooter | map stream? |
| 18:33.21 | Vailreth | they stream map making triggers data and terrain |
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| 18:48.07 | roflscooter | make me a custom AI vail :D |
| 18:48.47 | Vailreth | i dont know how but ive tried before i need one for my own projects |
| 18:49.06 | Vailreth | i am a data editor |
| 18:52.09 | JademusSreg | I do it all. |
| 18:52.14 | Vailreth | nice small new patch here |
| 18:52.19 | JademusSreg | I simply haven't gotten around to AI. |
| 18:52.32 | JademusSreg | I have the full API in front of me, though. =D |
| 18:52.46 | Vailreth | well i do it all as well but what i am better at is data, i am just learning triggers |
| 18:53.50 | roflscooter | im good at cannon rushing if that counts for anything |
| 18:54.20 | Vailreth | i am good at getting cannon rushed >..> |
| 18:54.33 | roflscooter | practice makes perfect |
| 18:54.39 | Cronos | you to should play a 1v1! |
| 18:54.46 | Cronos | two |
| 18:55.16 | roflscooter | i challenge ye to a duel |
| 18:55.28 | Cronos | ppl tryed to cannon my AT team like 4 times last night. lol they failed all 4 |
| 18:56.14 | JademusSreg | I mostly only play my own map, since NA mapnight died (again). |
| 18:56.53 | Cronos | funny one 2 toss send probes to us and we see them and follow them .. scout there base forge only .. they just leave |
| 18:57.50 | Cronos | somehow they were diamond players lol |
| 18:59.47 | thekill | dude |
| 18:59.51 | thekill | any1 else downloading a patch? |
| 19:00.07 | roflscooter | nope u might have virus bro |
| 19:00.22 | thekill | shit rly? |
| 19:00.44 | thekill | fuck |
| 19:01.11 | thekill | wtF |
| 19:01.22 | thekill | offline is disabled |
| 19:01.27 | thekill | u guys sure there isnt patch comming out? |
| 19:02.02 | JademusSreg | I'm patched. |
| 19:02.10 | JademusSreg | "Service uopdate". |
| 19:02.45 | thekill | ya bnet is down |
| 19:03.40 | thekill | ya theyre updating |
| 19:03.43 | thekill | what fuckin virus rofl |
| 19:05.14 | JademusSreg | Pulling your chain. |
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| 19:08.08 | Wiz10011 | hello |
| 19:08.17 | Vailreth | Hello |
| 19:08.29 | Wiz10011 | whats new. |
| 19:08.40 | roflscooter | sry thekill ;) |
| 19:10.00 | Sixen | I'm back from Blizz! |
| 19:10.08 | roflscooter | hihi |
| 19:10.10 | Wiz10011 | Welcome back. |
| 19:10.20 | Wiz10011 | Was it another interview? |
| 19:10.27 | Vailreth | the great one has returned from the mointain of the gods ! |
| 19:10.34 | Cronos | what was in the patch notes were old for me |
| 19:10.35 | Wiz10011 | whats a mointain? |
| 19:10.44 | Vailreth | whats news bring you oh great one? |
| 19:10.50 | Vailreth | mountain |
| 19:10.59 | Wiz10011 | Yes great one! what news do thee bring? |
| 19:11.01 | Vailreth | sorry typo |
| 19:11.08 | Wiz10011 | UNACCEPTABLE! |
| 19:11.17 | roflscooter | sixen plz tell us they removed infestor |
| 19:11.18 | Wiz10011 | to nash anyway.. |
| 19:11.35 | Vailreth | please tell us they buffed the Infestor |
| 19:11.37 | Wiz10011 | Sixen signed a NDA. like DUH! |
| 19:11.54 | Vailreth | darn |
| 19:11.58 | roflscooter | ya but everyone here can b trusted |
| 19:12.05 | roflscooter | rite |
| 19:12.14 | Wiz10011 | Yea, thats right.... |
| 19:12.20 | JademusSreg | Hihi. |
| 19:12.20 | Sixen | infestor? |
| 19:12.21 | Vailreth | Sixen Tell blizzard i will sign an NDA |
| 19:12.23 | Sixen | infestor is not in D3 |
| 19:12.38 | Wiz10011 | no SC2 news? |
| 19:12.39 | JademusSreg | Did youi bring presents? |
| 19:13.10 | Vailreth | hell if it gets me Hots early id sign over my first born son |
| 19:13.49 | Wiz10011 | and what would blizzard do with your first born? |
| 19:14.04 | roflscooter | barbarian whirlwind |
| 19:14.05 | Cronos | make him clean there floors |
| 19:14.09 | Cronos | slave labor |
| 19:14.10 | Vailreth | raise a real life raynor? |
| 19:14.18 | thekill | yuo |
| 19:14.19 | thekill | yo |
| 19:14.25 | thekill | where is the add resources thing |
| 19:14.36 | thekill | on triggers |
| 19:14.39 | Wiz10011 | that thing is in the other ting, thats in the ting. |
| 19:14.45 | Vailreth | if i were thinner and had blue eyes id look like raynor |
| 19:14.56 | JademusSreg | Utilize him and his kind as a calss on indentured eunuchs. |
| 19:14.56 | thekill | where is the add resources trigger |
| 19:15.09 | Vailreth | eh |
| 19:15.09 | JademusSreg | *class |
| 19:15.10 | Wiz10011 | Modify player property |
| 19:15.19 | roflscooter | u think raynor banged kerrigan? |
| 19:15.26 | Wiz10011 | He wanted to. |
| 19:15.27 | Vailreth | i think he would |
| 19:15.49 | roflscooter | before or after she was infested? |
| 19:15.57 | Vailreth | i would ... pre infestation infested and post infested alike |
| 19:15.59 | Wiz10011 | In one of the SC1 mission where they meet, Kerrigan says On you pig to Jimmy, and hes like Oh right you're a telepath. |
| 19:16.09 | Wiz10011 | Oh you pig* |
| 19:16.33 | Wiz10011 | So Sixen whats news is there of D3? beta ETA or anything? |
| 19:16.44 | Sixen | Can't talk about it until Monday ;) |
| 19:16.48 | Wiz10011 | I see. |
| 19:16.59 | Wiz10011 | that when the interview video going to be released? |
| 19:17.00 | thekill | come on guys |
| 19:17.05 | Vailreth | quick some one use the sc2 editor to make a time machine |
| 19:17.07 | roflscooter | cmon sixen |
| 19:17.19 | Wiz10011 | Rolf, what if blizzard has a spy in this channel! |
| 19:17.20 | Vailreth | eh i can wait four days |
| 19:17.22 | roflscooter | raynor time warp command |
| 19:17.23 | thekill | how do i add resources |
| 19:17.30 | Wiz10011 | Thekill, I told you |
| 19:17.33 | thekill | what |
| 19:17.38 | Wiz10011 | The action Modify Player property |
| 19:17.41 | thekill | ok |
| 19:18.14 | Wiz10011 | can you atleast say that much sixen? when the video would be released? or nothing at all? |
| 19:18.52 | roflscooter | as long as there's whirlwind im happy |
| 19:19.27 | Wiz10011 | just hoping for some beta news honesly, see if its going to start soon or if there was soemthing wrong. |
| 19:19.40 | Wiz10011 | Yo sixen! you been following Blizzard-allstar news? |
| 19:20.11 | Wiz10011 | Curious if they intend to add D3 heros to the map eventually. |
| 19:22.46 | JademusSreg | As I understand it, there -is- a Blizzard employee here. |
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| 19:23.09 | Wiz10011 | Yea! see rolf, if he said anyting they would know! A SPY IS AMONG US! |
| 19:23.32 | roflscooter | :shiftyeyes: |
| 19:23.55 | Sixen | there is no blizzard allstars news :P |
| 19:24.29 | JademusSreg | If you wanna know more about Blizzard Dota, look in the patch mpqs. |
| 19:24.34 | Wiz10011 | Well I was just curious about if they intend to put D3 heros in it, haven't been following it. (last I heard, Which was yesterday they were playtesting it) |
| 19:25.10 | Wiz10011 | I haven't played D1 or D2, But I do intend to get D3. |
| 19:26.47 | thekill | ok |
| 19:27.00 | thekill | i still have a problem |
| 19:27.34 | Cronos | dont play d2 now :( its kinda blah ... 75% bots run that game |
| 19:27.46 | Currydevil | Got a fun problem. I'm making new items, and on the unit actor, you can set a highlight tooltip when you mouse over the item on the ground. Problem is, I created two different items and when I change the tooltip for one, it makes it the same for the other item. is that because they share the same parent or what? I didn't duplicate them at all, I just made new actors. |
| 19:27.47 | Cronos | or just play single player lol |
| 19:28.23 | Wiz10011 | I tried singleplayer, it hurt my eyes when I tried to play it for some reason. maybe wasnt enough lighting. but yea No interest in playing D2, But alot of interest in D3. |
| 19:28.25 | thekill | i wana make a trigger that gives players 5 mins every 3 secs |
| 19:28.32 | JademusSreg | Curry, they share the same reference. Show me the xml, or view it in raw data. |
| 19:28.40 | Wiz10011 | Okay thekill? whats the problem? |
| 19:28.56 | JademusSreg | By that I mean the fields share the same reference, ie the text path. |
| 19:29.12 | thekill | i wana make a trigger that gives players 5 mins every 3 secs and the players are picked by being allies to player 1 \ |
| 19:29.27 | Currydevil | they have the same parent. what part do you want to see? |
| 19:29.29 | thekill | what should i do |
| 19:29.33 | Wiz10011 | So? you just dont know how to make it? |
| 19:29.38 | thekill | no |
| 19:29.49 | JademusSreg | Periodic trigger event, get active player group, |
| 19:29.56 | Wiz10011 | Okay, ill tell you how this time. but any other time you need to learn. |
| 19:30.07 | thekill | ok |
| 19:30.13 | JademusSreg | Pick each, check alliance to player 1, |
| 19:30.19 | thekill | k |
| 19:30.23 | thekill | wait |
| 19:30.24 | thekill | as in |
| 19:30.25 | JademusSreg | Modify Player Property Minerals |
| 19:30.42 | thekill | uhh |
| 19:30.48 | thekill | where should the pick each be |
| 19:30.53 | thekill | under what variable |
| 19:31.20 | roflscooter | conditions |
| 19:31.36 | roflscooter | trollface.jpg |
| 19:32.11 | thekill | and comparison not or text has been set or within bounds |
| 19:32.19 | thekill | ok |
| 19:32.58 | thekill | i still dont know.. |
| 19:33.29 | thekill | hello? |
| 19:33.36 | JademusSreg | My approach to assistance is to handwave in a direction with an approximate explanation, assuming people know the basics. =D |
| 19:33.45 | Currydevil | then what are you doing trying to make a map if you haven't learned the editor yet? lol |
| 19:33.48 | JademusSreg | I don't micromanage. |
| 19:33.52 | Currydevil | lol |
| 19:34.10 | thekill | ... |
| 19:34.28 | thekill | just tell me omg |
| 19:34.29 | Currydevil | what part did you want to see jade? i don't know this text path lol |
| 19:34.34 | Currydevil | he did |
| 19:34.39 | roflscooter | create an event thekill periodic |
| 19:34.45 | thekill | i did that |
| 19:34.48 | thekill | every 3 seaconds |
| 19:34.49 | thekill | then what |
| 19:35.00 | Currydevil | you have to learn it yourself or you'll just keep coming back to ask how to do everything |
| 19:35.15 | thekill | i madde actions pick each player that allied to player 1 |
| 19:35.29 | thekill | how the hell am i gonna learn it myselr |
| 19:35.31 | thekill | myself |
| 19:35.34 | roflscooter | ok then say modify resource (picked player) |
| 19:35.35 | thekill | is there a guidebook to it somewhere? |
| 19:35.42 | thekill | ya |
| 19:35.43 | Currydevil | by experimenting. look at all the fields |
| 19:35.50 | roflscooter | trial and error my good friend, mostly error |
| 19:35.51 | thekill | .... |
| 19:35.56 | thekill | that will take 50 years |
| 19:36.01 | Currydevil | so? |
| 19:36.02 | thekill | to do all that |
| 19:36.07 | thekill | ok wait |
| 19:36.09 | Wiz10011 | only if you're slow... |
| 19:36.10 | thekill | i made pick eadch player |
| 19:36.13 | Currydevil | i did it. most other ppl here did it |
| 19:36.14 | Wiz10011 | and dont use common sense. |
| 19:36.25 | thekill | ok |
| 19:36.25 | Currydevil | and the game has been out only a year |
| 19:36.26 | Vailreth | yes new patch |
| 19:36.29 | thekill | omg |
| 19:36.34 | Wiz10011 | new patch? |
| 19:36.45 | thekill | k leme start over |
| 19:36.48 | thekill | since u guys interrupt me |
| 19:36.57 | JademusSreg | Curry, view raw data, look at the field where you input the text, and comparte the path between the two objects. |
| 19:36.58 | thekill | i madde actions pick each player that allied to player 1 |
| 19:37.00 | thekill | and do action |
| 19:37.10 | thekill | and then i made the action modify player properties |
| 19:37.15 | thekill | but it still asks me what fuckin players |
| 19:37.21 | thekill | what should i say as wich players |
| 19:37.21 | JademusSreg | Copying a text value in the data editor copies the text path. |
| 19:37.23 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:37.26 | thekill | returen to previous action? |
| 19:37.26 | Currydevil | FieldRadioactiveCrystal (Radioactive Crystal) |
| 19:37.27 | Currydevil | CActorUnit_HighlightTooltipUnit/Name/##unitName## |
| 19:37.30 | JademusSreg | Which results in precisely these sorts of bugs. |
| 19:37.30 | roflscooter | ok then put in the action part modify player properties of (picked player) to resources |
| 19:37.35 | Currydevil | FieldRifleA (Rifle A) |
| 19:37.35 | Currydevil | CActorUnit_HighlightTooltipUnit/Name/##unitName## |
| 19:37.53 | JademusSreg | Well, that looks right. |
| 19:38.01 | JademusSreg | What are the respective unitName tokens>? |
| 19:38.15 | Currydevil | the same as the fields there |
| 19:38.22 | thekill | wow thank you rofl |
| 19:38.23 | Currydevil | radioactive and rifle |
| 19:38.24 | thekill | i got it |
| 19:38.35 | JademusSreg | Hm. That is odd. |
| 19:38.44 | JademusSreg | Show me the xml. =D |
| 19:38.57 | Currydevil | lol where is that? haha |
| 19:38.59 | Wiz10011 | Who here works for Blizzard? say I! |
| 19:39.04 | Currydevil | nay |
| 19:39.08 | roflscooter | aye |
| 19:39.19 | Wiz10011 | Was worth a shot to find out who the spy is.... |
| 19:39.23 | roflscooter | :> |
| 19:39.24 | JademusSreg | Curious, |
| 19:39.25 | Wiz10011 | KILL ROLF |
| 19:39.36 | JademusSreg | Before showing me the xml, I want to make sure it isn't an editor bug, |
| 19:39.43 | Currydevil | ok |
| 19:39.56 | JademusSreg | Make another object with the same parent as the others. |
| 19:40.03 | JademusSreg | And see if it has the same problem. |
| 19:40.19 | thekill | fuuck YEES |
| 19:40.30 | Currydevil | ok, just a moment |
| 19:40.36 | Currydevil | baby in my lap |
| 19:40.37 | roflscooter | That will be one blowjob please. |
| 19:40.43 | Currydevil | lol |
| 19:40.48 | JademusSreg | Curry, I know how that is. |
| 19:41.01 | JademusSreg | My daughter often sits in my lap while I'm working on stuff. |
| 19:41.17 | JademusSreg | Which can make playing Photon Cycles challenging. |
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| 19:41.33 | Currydevil | well this one is fussy. i believe she is tired but she won't admit it |
| 19:41.34 | Currydevil | lol |
| 19:41.35 | roflscooter | teaching her cannon rush :D |
| 19:41.49 | Currydevil | 4mos |
| 19:42.32 | JademusSreg | My youngest girl is nearly 2 years. Precocious. |
| 19:43.34 | thekill | oww maan THANK YOU JEZUS |
| 19:43.37 | thekill | thx |
| 19:44.01 | Currydevil | -.- |
| 19:44.13 | Wiz10011 | you sure are happy you got one trigger working.. |
| 19:44.31 | Wiz10011 | Good luck with the rest of them. |
| 19:44.38 | roflscooter | its the fact that jesus helped him that hes so happy |
| 19:44.44 | JademusSreg | Let me know when you've done that Curry. |
| 19:45.04 | Wiz10011 | jesus? helping some guy that cant even spell his name right? Yea right! |
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| 19:47.34 | Cronos | maybe he is the only one spelling the name right and we are all wrong! |
| 19:48.04 | thekill | what? |
| 19:48.31 | thekill | my name is spelt right |
| 19:48.40 | Currydevil | Oh hah, that's dumb. |
| 19:48.49 | slightlyrandom | I was just about to say |
| 19:49.03 | thekill | huh? |
| 19:49.14 | Wiz10011 | You know Cronos! you might be onto something! |
| 19:49.16 | Currydevil | So, when I open the highlight tooltip, the text key is "unit/name/bogus" instead of switching to "unit/name/rifle" etc.... |
| 19:49.20 | Currydevil | that's why it was sharing. |
| 19:49.27 | Currydevil | I see now the text thing you meant |
| 19:49.40 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 19:49.42 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 19:49.54 | Currydevil | Didn't pay attention to it earlier. I would have assumed that part would have changed by itself once I linked the unit in the token. |
| 19:50.20 | Currydevil | yay baby admitted she was tired! |
| 19:50.25 | Currydevil | sleeping in the swing. |
| 19:50.28 | JademusSreg | Well, normally it appears to do just that. |
| 19:50.46 | JademusSreg | But only if the token reference is in the key to start with. |
| 19:52.10 | Currydevil | However, I have to figure out why my models aren't working >.> |
| 19:52.16 | JademusSreg | ?? |
| 19:52.54 | Currydevil | I had one working the other day. Then, when I made the 2nd item and made the actor for it, seems my 2nd actor didn't want to show the model I linked |
| 19:53.03 | Currydevil | and now the first one doesn't show anymore either. |
| 19:53.25 | JademusSreg | Model fields. |
| 19:53.31 | JademusSreg | What do they say? |
| 19:54.01 | Currydevil | FieldRadioactiveCrystal (Radioactive Crystal) |
| 19:54.01 | Currydevil | CActorModel_ModelBasicItem##unitName## |
| 19:54.10 | Currydevil | Actor NameSourceActor TypeParentDoodad Type |
| 19:54.10 | Currydevil | RifleA (Rifle A)ItemsDataEtc.SC2MapCActorUnitBag |
| 19:54.27 | Currydevil | FieldRifleA (Rifle A) |
| 19:54.27 | Currydevil | CActorModel_ModelWeapons |
| 19:55.17 | JademusSreg | Take screenshot or pastebin the entire thing. |
| 19:55.23 | JademusSreg | Or xml. |
| 19:55.42 | JademusSreg | (You get the xml by extracting it from the map using an MPQ editor.) |
| 19:55.49 | Currydevil | ah |
| 19:56.23 | thekill | how the fuck do you learn the mapper |
| 19:56.25 | thekill | .... |
| 19:56.33 | JademusSreg | Back in early beta, xml editing was the only way to mod, so we modified those files directly. |
| 19:56.36 | thekill | just play around with it? |
| 19:56.47 | thekill | you cant just play around with something and learn it |
| 19:56.50 | JademusSreg | Thek, here's how you learn to mod. |
| 19:57.01 | thekill | u have to work from somethign |
| 19:57.08 | flyingspatula | read tutorials and mess with shit make random things |
| 19:57.19 | JademusSreg | Tinker, Look At References, Read Tutorials, Ask Questions |
| 19:57.31 | flyingspatula | ALOT more tut support for sc2 in actual video than wc3 ever was |
| 19:57.36 | thekill | ya but you gotta work from SOMETHIGN |
| 19:57.44 | thekill | youc cannot just mess with shit and b expected to learn |
| 19:57.49 | thekill | thats not how i learn |
| 19:57.49 | JademusSreg | I disagree. |
| 19:57.58 | Currydevil | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/692/actorproblem.png/ Jade |
| 19:57.59 | thekill | i never learned like that |
| 19:58.09 | JademusSreg | If you can't be a bit autodidactic, you won't do much. |
| 19:58.13 | Currydevil | thekill: go learn:http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/tutorials/ |
| 19:59.07 | flyingspatula | data editor always makes me want to smash my face into my monitor not gonna lie |
| 19:59.19 | JademusSreg | Curry, now look at the Model that it is suppoed to use in the model tab. |
| 19:59.35 | JademusSreg | Double click on it in the list and tell me the id. |
| 20:00.01 | Currydevil | BasicItemRadioactiveCrystal |
| 20:00.10 | Currydevil | Weapons |
| 20:00.31 | JademusSreg | Maybe I should just look at the map. =D |
| 20:00.36 | Currydevil | lol |
| 20:01.05 | JademusSreg | Use dropbox or something, though, since I refuse to touch those fileshare sites like mediafire and rapidspam and shirt. |
| 20:01.07 | JademusSreg | *shit |
| 20:01.16 | Currydevil | mhm, working on it. |
| 20:01.22 | JademusSreg | Ir send it to me in an attachment on mapster. |
| 20:01.25 | JademusSreg | Eitherway. |
| 20:01.55 | Currydevil | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35414434/ItemsDataEtcx2.SC2Map |
| 20:02.17 | JademusSreg | Anyway, as I was saying, you gotta be autodidactic and self-motivating to accomplish anything. |
| 20:02.41 | thekill | allright thanks 4 what ever help guys |
| 20:02.45 | thekill | im done with the editor for today |
| 20:02.51 | thekill | pce |
| 20:03.11 | roflscooter | if unit is suicidal then kill unit |
| 20:04.07 | JademusSreg | I see the issue. |
| 20:04.24 | Currydevil | I broked something eh? |
| 20:04.50 | JademusSreg | See the actor's model is BasicItem##id##, and the id for the model is BasicItemBlahBlah, so the model the actor is looking for is BasicItemBasicItemBlahBlah. |
| 20:05.06 | JademusSreg | Which doesn't exist. |
| 20:05.06 | Currydevil | and not ##blahblah## |
| 20:06.01 | JademusSreg | BasicItem + ##id##; ##id## == BasicItemBlahBlah; Actor is looking for BasicItemBasicItemBlahBlah |
| 20:06.09 | JademusSreg | Because you included BasicItem in the id,. |
| 20:06.55 | Currydevil | hmmm |
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| 20:07.26 | Currydevil | Not sure how that's working because i picked the model from the drop down ;) |
| 20:07.31 | thekill | ddue |
| 20:07.36 | thekill | are they still updating wc3/// |
| 20:07.39 | thekill | ....* |
| 20:08.06 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 20:08.13 | thekill | i dled a patch a week ago and im dlin another 1 today -.- |
| 20:08.19 | JademusSreg | Curry, I'll explain again if necessary. |
| 20:08.20 | thekill | o.o |
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| 20:08.40 | Currydevil | Sure, because i'm confused ;) it was working with the same model name/id the other day |
| 20:08.49 | Ashamed_ | NOU |
| 20:09.25 | JademusSreg | Actor's Model value: BasicItem##unitName## Model's id: BasicItemRadioactiveCrystal |
| 20:09.36 | JademusSreg | See the problem? |
| 20:09.44 | JademusSreg | Oh wait, haha |
| 20:09.49 | JademusSreg | Maybe I messed up now. |
| 20:09.53 | Currydevil | >.< |
| 20:09.56 | JademusSreg | Hold on, baby is hitting me in the face. |
| 20:10.01 | Currydevil | hehe |
| 20:10.48 | Currydevil | somehow it fixed itself =O |
| 20:10.58 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 20:11.16 | Shadow_Killer | Owen. |
| 20:11.19 | Currydevil | I didn't touch a thing. Lol. actually, i changed the model value of the basicitem to basicitem##id## |
| 20:11.20 | JademusSreg | Hi Shadow. |
| 20:11.28 | Currydevil | not sure if that did anything. |
| 20:11.49 | Shadow_Killer | Hello, I require your advice. |
| 20:11.49 | Currydevil | nope, ti changed it back. |
| 20:11.50 | Currydevil | lol |
| 20:11.54 | Currydevil | it* |
| 20:12.05 | JademusSreg | Alright. Is the wc3c server still down? |
| 20:12.31 | Currydevil | thanks for looking into it Jade. maybe it won't break again. |
| 20:12.53 | Shadow_Killer | Yeah, apparently (can't remember his name) can't get in touch with the server quickly. So that IRC will be down for quite a while. |
| 20:13.00 | JademusSreg | Oh well. |
| 20:13.04 | JademusSreg | Dead site anything. |
| 20:13.09 | JademusSreg | What's up? |
| 20:46.10 | Ashamed_ | new job still going great :) |
| 20:46.34 | Wiz10011 | Cool |
| 20:56.02 | Vailreth | grr |
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| 21:04.33 | Vailreth | i do not know what i am doing wrong ... |
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| 21:09.17 | Ashamed_ | you were born vail |
| 21:09.20 | Ashamed_ | that is what you are doing wrong |
| 21:11.08 | Vailreth | har har har |
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| 21:26.15 | Vailreth | lol people cant log in |
| 21:26.20 | Vailreth | wait that includes me NOO |
| 21:33.25 | RedWraith | get owned |
| 21:33.30 | RedWraith | I'll never have that problem |
| 21:33.39 | RedWraith | because I'm a badass |
| 21:33.56 | RedWraith | who was once so awesome Blizzard could not allow it on their servers |
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| 21:35.18 | Dresnia | ! |
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| 21:43.54 | Vailreth | hey Dresnia |
| 21:44.45 | Vailreth | shit i still havent found a Halloween tree yet and its like two months away |
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| 21:44.58 | Vailreth | still havent gotten any one Halloween Presents yet |
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| 21:57.33 | RipperRooX | hey guys |
| 21:57.40 | RipperRooX | is it possible to use requests in requests ? :S |
| 21:57.45 | RipperRooX | otherwise i think i m screwed^^ |
| 22:03.44 | Cronos | anyone know what the little patch was |
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| 22:04.14 | Keyeszx | oly oly oxen free |
| 22:04.21 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 22:05.10 | Keyeszx | I wonder if Mozared's tutorial for terrain can be applied to UDK |
| 22:08.08 | Mexa | Anything interesting going on? |
| 22:08.33 | RipperRooX | i am eating my keyboard cause the editor is freaking me out^^ |
| 22:08.39 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 22:08.43 | JademusSreg | I have a fussy baby. |
| 22:09.20 | RipperRooX | why that? |
| 22:10.18 | Vailreth | well there was a spall patcher patch and then 1.3.6 |
| 22:12.11 | Vailreth | small patcher patch ahem |
| 22:13.58 | Vailreth | well they seem to have renabled the ability to log on to battle net .. for a while after 1.3.6 you couldnt log on |
| 22:15.23 | Vailreth | i think i will be switching to a diffrent chat client soon |
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| 22:18.05 | Vailreth | there we go better |
| 22:19.40 | Mexa | 1.3.6? |
| 22:19.42 | Mexa | Not in EU |
| 22:19.46 | Mexa | ._ |
| 22:20.18 | Vailreth | soon likely once they work out the bug that caused loging in to not work here in NA |
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| 22:28.30 | timecat | does anyone know what causes the heal beam to stop casting when its target reaches full hp? |
| 22:29.42 | Vailreth | likely a validator. |
| 22:29.59 | Vailreth | let me open the editor and i can get more specific |
| 22:30.29 | timecat | no its not, thats the thing |
| 22:30.38 | timecat | i can't find anything telling it to stop healing when the target's hp is full |
| 22:30.58 | timecat | basically what i want to do is maintain the link between the healer and the unit after the unit reaches full hp |
| 22:31.07 | slightlyrandom | Editor 101: Look at a thing that works, copy what makes it work |
| 22:31.14 | timecat | so that if the unit's hp drops again, it will continue healing it |
| 22:31.31 | slightlyrandom | That won't work |
| 22:31.43 | slightlyrandom | Or rather, it's a bit more complicated than that |
| 22:31.43 | timecat | ...thats why i'm trying to make it |
| 22:31.54 | timecat | its gonna have to be some kind of workaround |
| 22:32.16 | timecat | i'm thinking of making two cases for the healer, one when its not full hp and one when it is |
| 22:32.28 | slightlyrandom | Make the beam not trigger when healing |
| 22:32.29 | timecat | and periodically keep making a healer when its full |
| 22:32.37 | timecat | ? |
| 22:32.39 | timecat | what do you mean |
| 22:32.40 | slightlyrandom | Just have it trigger all the time, and have the actual healing be invisible |
| 22:33.05 | timecat | that would create a bunch of healers targetting the same unit |
| 22:33.49 | timecat | i wish i could see the source code in the data editor |
| 22:33.54 | timecat | and write my own code |
| 22:34.05 | Vailreth | i have a heal beam weapon similar to teamfortress 2 |
| 22:34.18 | timecat | ooh |
| 22:34.26 | timecat | do tell |
| 22:34.42 | timecat | it keeps trying to heal after the unit fills up on hp right? |
| 22:35.42 | Vailreth | well it has three effects 1 damage enemy, 2 heal player unit, 2 overbuff player unit health |
| 22:35.58 | Vailreth | 3 over buff* |
| 22:36.10 | timecat | the overbuff still has a limit right? |
| 22:37.17 | Vailreth | something like +5%max health |
| 22:37.35 | timecat | ok so how did you do it |
| 22:39.20 | Vailreth | well i made it as a weapon first. then i have a couple of sets the first set damages and enemy or on an ally it activates the second set which apply the over buff health beahvior and creates a healer |
| 22:39.46 | Vailreth | now that i know how switches work i can one of those instead though |
| 22:40.34 | timecat | so how did you make it maintain the healing link after the unit reached its max hp? |
| 22:41.01 | Vailreth | the weapon will keep firing at its taregt till the target is dead or changed |
| 22:41.16 | timecat | ah i see |
| 22:41.32 | timecat | so you made the healer an effect of a weapon? |
| 22:41.38 | Vailreth | you may be able to make a unit who targets allies by default with a healing weapon |
| 22:41.39 | Vailreth | yes |
| 22:50.02 | Vailreth | or it may be possible to make that into an ability |
| 22:53.23 | Reactorex | Ohhi |
| 22:53.32 | Reactorex | oh wow |
| 22:53.34 | Reactorex | I should sleep |
| 22:53.39 | timecat | i think what i'm going to do |
| 22:53.46 | Reactorex | I misread Vailreth's "likely a validator" as "likely a vibrator". |
| 22:53.55 | timecat | is every time a unit uses an attack, it'll create a new healer |
| 22:54.00 | timecat | *behavior |
| 22:54.08 | timecat | and set the max # of that behavior to be 1 |
| 22:54.27 | timecat | cause i'm transferring energy actually, not hp |
| 22:55.48 | timecat | wait that won't work |
| 22:56.28 | Vailreth | you can set a create healer effect to heal energy |
| 22:56.35 | timecat | yea i know |
| 22:56.53 | Vailreth | ah |
| 22:57.03 | Vailreth | what wont work? |
| 22:57.10 | timecat | i guess the fundemental question is how do i make the healer know to keep healing a unit even after the unit reaches full energy |
| 22:57.18 | timecat | and then loses energy |
| 22:57.26 | timecat | i want to create a link between the healer and the unit |
| 22:58.53 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 23:01.26 | Vailreth | perhaps a battery ability? |
| 23:01.53 | timecat | how does that work |
| 23:02.30 | Vailreth | if i understand it correctly it continously fires an effect on a target allied or player unit |
| 23:02.41 | timecat | hmm i'll give it a try |
| 23:02.56 | Vailreth | i will as well i have been trying to get it to work |
| 23:03.06 | Vailreth | the battery ability i mean |
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| 23:05.35 | timecat | hmm the battery's effect isn't showing up as a linked ability |
| 23:05.38 | timecat | *linked effect |
| 23:06.01 | Keyeszx | Anyone know any other irc channels? |
| 23:06.06 | Keyeszx | Maybe one for UDK |
| 23:07.04 | Vailreth | its the reverse of what you want i think it continuosly fires but only as long as the targt orders do not change ... |
| 23:09.26 | Keyeszx | I'm screwed. I can't make anything in UDK because I can't make 3D models. Which means I can't make games |
| 23:09.33 | Keyeszx | i'm so sad today... |
| 23:10.58 | Vailreth | oh and timecat you may want to use an modify unit instead of a create healer |
| 23:13.17 | timecat | ok but then how do i drain energy from the caster |
| 23:13.25 | timecat | oh its a cost ok |
| 23:14.43 | Vailreth | the modify unit cost fields modify the costs of an ability as long as the unit with that ability is under the effect of the modify unit effect |
| 23:15.03 | Vailreth | you would have to use a set that modifies the catser energy down and the recipient energy up |
| 23:15.39 | timecat | nah |
| 23:15.46 | timecat | modify unit has a cost field |
| 23:15.56 | timecat | i just need to make the modify unit ability periodic |
| 23:16.20 | Vailreth | hm |
| 23:16.57 | Keyeszx | man I'm bored |
| 23:18.57 | timecat | hmm ok this is working pretty well |
| 23:20.28 | Vailreth | any one know of a way to allow a unit to move while it is channeling an ability |
| 23:20.41 | timecat | its a validator |
| 23:21.08 | timecat | Stats - Flags |
| 23:21.12 | timecat | Allow movement |
| 23:21.39 | timecat | on the ability |
| 23:27.42 | timecat | wtf editor |
| 23:27.57 | timecat | the modify unit effect has a cost of energy |
| 23:28.08 | timecat | yet when i use it as a period effect, its ignoring the cost |
| 23:30.51 | Vailreth | are you using an ability or a weapon? |
| 23:30.51 | Keyeszx | How are people supposed to make a custom game if they're only into programming and not very creative and can't make the terrain? |
| 23:30.59 | timecat | ability |
| 23:31.01 | timecat | it shouldn't matter tho |
| 23:31.20 | timecat | a behavior periodically does the modify unit effect |
| 23:31.22 | timecat | to give it power |
| 23:31.27 | timecat | that effect has a cost |
| 23:31.31 | timecat | and its ignoring the cost |
| 23:31.48 | Vailreth | that cost is for modifying ability costs |
| 23:31.51 | Vailreth | i think |
| 23:32.03 | Vailreth | why are you using a behavior? |
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| 23:32.33 | timecat | to make the modify unit effect periodic |
| 23:33.05 | Vailreth | you could use a periodic effect set to target unit |
| 23:33.45 | Vailreth | i have a test map if you would like to see the only issue i have is that the healing unit gets right up next to the target unit |
| 23:34.23 | Vailreth | be back in a few first though it may be dinner time |
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| 23:36.47 | Vailreth | ok im back fifteen or so more minutes |
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| 23:45.06 | Sixen | omg it's onetwo |
| 23:45.19 | onetwo | i accidentally signed on here to talk to karawasa |
| 23:45.22 | onetwo | but he has his own irc |
| 23:45.23 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:45.29 | timecat | D: |
| 23:45.30 | onetwo | skype has become my new irc |
| 23:45.52 | Vailreth | well folks i have to go for foods later |
| 23:46.05 | Sixen | =] |
| 23:47.06 | roflscooter | hi onetwo my personal SC tutor :D |
| 23:47.27 | timecat | lol |
| 23:47.40 | timecat | yea he's the reason i started mapping too |
| 23:48.17 | roflscooter | I have 1 map where I used like 3-4 of his tutorials |
| 23:48.55 | roflscooter | zergling creep trail is the most 1337 |
| 23:49.24 | onetwo | lol |
| 23:49.58 | roflscooter | where are you from 1-2? I hear you say Zed for Z in ur tuts but u have no accent |
| 23:50.15 | onetwo | canada |
| 23:50.19 | roflscooter | ahh |
| 23:51.22 | roflscooter | any new upcoming tuts? :D |
| 23:51.35 | onetwo | id really like to do a new TD one |
| 23:51.37 | onetwo | with anti block etc |
| 23:51.41 | onetwo | and do a text version of it on sc2mapster |
| 23:51.42 | onetwo | co release |
| 23:51.46 | timecat | anti block would be nice |
| 23:51.51 | onetwo | i have an RL iphone project due august 1st though |
| 23:52.02 | timecat | personally i'm trying to figure out a power system for my towers |
| 23:52.06 | onetwo | pay is really good for app developers so thats what im doing atm |
| 23:52.09 | onetwo | and i like making apps |
| 23:52.41 | timecat | pretty sure if i manage this i'll be the first person to pull it off with sc2 |
| 23:54.14 | onetwo | nice |
| 23:56.29 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 23:56.34 | slightlyrandom | Front. |
| 23:56.56 | timecat | Left |
| 23:57.47 | JademusSreg | Preposition indicating direction. |
