| 00:00.07 | Wiz10011 | ? |
| 00:00.19 | Wiz10011 | talking to me? |
| 00:00.33 | phoenix7700 | who ever made that info come up |
| 00:00.45 | Wiz10011 | Yea me. it's a command |
| 00:00.49 | Wiz10011 | ~seen @sixen |
| 00:00.51 | purl | i haven't seen '@sixen', Wiz10011 |
| 00:00.59 | phoenix7700 | ahh |
| 00:01.00 | Wiz10011 | ~seen Sixen |
| 00:01.01 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (2d 19h 26m 43s) #wowhead (2d 19h 26m 43s) #wowuidev (2d 19h 26m 43s). Has said a total of 36 messages. Is idling for 3h 40m 51s, last said: 'Valuable*'. |
| 00:01.09 | Wiz10011 | type ~seen (name) |
| 00:01.28 | phoenix7700 | ~seen Vexal |
| 00:01.29 | purl | vexal is currently on #sc2mapster (2h 57m 4s). Has said a total of 18 messages. Is idling for 1h 47m 35s, last said: 'which is the whole point of high art in the first place'. |
| 00:02.06 | Wiz10011 | I dont know if Purl is just a bot, or a person that has a bot running. but it provides the information if you request it with that command |
| 00:02.30 | Wiz10011 | ~seen purl |
| 00:02.30 | purl | purl is currently on #lotrouidev (6d 18h 55m 22s) #casualti (6d 18h 55m 22s) #linuxfund (6d 18h 55m 22s) #waruidev (6d 18h 55m 22s) #how (6d 18h 55m 22s) #sc2mapster (6d 18h 55m 22s) #riftuidev (6d 18h 55m 22s) #edev (6d 18h 55m 22s) #fossfund (6d 18h 55m 22s) #hosernet (6d 18h 55m 22s) #norganna (6d 18h 55m 22s) #ud (6d 18h 55m 22s) ##ducleague (6d 18h ... |
| 00:02.52 | Wiz10011 | Going to say it's just a bot. |
| 00:02.59 | phoenix7700 | you broke it |
| 00:03.13 | Wiz10011 | No, breaking it would keep requesting the seen for purl. |
| 00:03.23 | Wiz10011 | But it cuts off after two lines. |
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| 00:08.19 | Vexal | what |
| 00:08.58 | phoenix7700 | nothing just didn't now how that thign worked |
| 00:09.13 | Wiz10011 | Well, now you do! |
| 00:09.59 | phoenix7700 | actually |
| 00:10.01 | phoenix7700 | i have a question |
| 00:10.23 | phoenix7700 | how do i mess with what the command cards looks like for a building under construction |
| 00:10.27 | phoenix7700 | and for the builder |
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| 00:38.37 | vailreth | phoenix7700: i think that would just be the normal command card editing |
| 00:39.04 | vailreth | 7352 |
| 00:39.37 | phoenix7700 | yeah but how to i specify that only certain things show up while underconsturction |
| 00:39.47 | phoenix7700 | OH SHIT |
| 00:39.53 | phoenix7700 | 40 sec to 9000 |
| 00:40.02 | vailreth | nice |
| 00:40.23 | phoenix7700 | 10 |
| 00:41.14 | phoenix7700 | it didn't do anything... |
| 00:41.18 | phoenix7700 | cry |
| 00:41.36 | vailreth | hm |
| 00:41.50 | vailreth | how far over 9000 seconds? |
| 00:41.54 | phoenix7700 | 10 |
| 00:42.06 | phoenix7700 | it says at 9001 something is supposed to happen |
| 00:42.07 | phoenix7700 | but |
| 00:42.09 | phoenix7700 | meh |
| 00:42.20 | vailreth | well im still going for 9999.9 |
| 00:42.28 | vailreth | its a personal achievement |
| 00:42.36 | phoenix7700 | well |
| 00:42.54 | phoenix7700 | how do i specify that certain things show up on command card at certain times |
| 00:42.55 | phoenix7700 | like |
| 00:43.10 | phoenix7700 | while a person in construting, it takes away their move and attack |
| 00:43.53 | vailreth | likely in the build and buildable abilities |
| 00:45.36 | vailreth | or it could be requirments |
| 00:50.37 | phoenix7700 | basically i want to make a button that cancels constrution |
| 00:50.44 | phoenix7700 | and it should be there but it's not |
| 00:54.09 | vailreth | hm |
| 00:54.20 | phoenix7700 | it makes me cry |
| 00:55.17 | Nash|327 | kittunsss |
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| 01:05.46 | UloseTheGame | Sixen |
| 01:05.50 | UloseTheGame | you ther? |
| 01:06.06 | UloseTheGame | im looking for him to feature a new map |
| 01:06.35 | UloseTheGame | Clash of Kings :) |
| 01:08.11 | Mexa|Tee | hm |
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| 01:17.13 | UloseTheGame | sorry mexa, us only :p |
| 01:18.23 | Nash|327 | Now, what movie should I watch... |
| 01:19.09 | Nash|327 | Inception maybe |
| 01:20.58 | ________________ | crazy |
| 01:21.03 | ________________ | i just started playing that movie |
| 01:21.07 | ________________ | literally |
| 01:21.42 | vailreth | Captain Mar Sara |
| 01:22.59 | Vexal | hello. |
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| 02:01.30 | Vexal | compiling for past 30 minutes |
| 02:01.32 | Vexal | bored. |
| 02:06.34 | Nash|327 | tummy full of ramen |
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| 02:44.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster Phyxius117 (60f610ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.246.16.238) |
| 02:44.45 | Phyxius117 | hello |
| 02:45.09 | hawker | salutations |
| 02:45.27 | Phyxius117 | can anyone answer some noobie questions ? |
| 02:46.28 | hawker | Perhaps |
| 02:46.30 | hawker | I will try |
| 02:46.33 | Phyxius117 | okies |
| 02:46.39 | hawker | Or at least redirect you to a more suitable source |
| 02:46.48 | Phyxius117 | so i'm trying to make a hero line war + footman + dota style map |
| 02:46.50 | Phyxius117 | 5 v 5 |
| 02:47.05 | Phyxius117 | each player has a main base that spawns units to opposing side |
| 02:47.38 | Phyxius117 | so i set up start locations for each player. and set up team to 5 v 5 with 1-5 on same team and 6-10 on the same team. but when i test the map. player 2 is hostile to me |
| 02:48.01 | Phyxius117 | i wonder how i can fix that |
| 02:48.45 | hawker | All right, I'm too n00b at this |
| 02:48.46 | hawker | However |
| 02:49.09 | hawker | I believe that |
| 02:49.25 | hawker | Zeldarules or some other character has a comprehensive DOTA tutorial |
| 02:49.37 | Phyxius117 | well it's not exactly like dota |
| 02:49.40 | Phyxius117 | more like footman frenzy |
| 02:49.43 | hawker | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/16045-complete-noobs-guide-to-dota-style-maps-part-1/ |
| 02:49.43 | phoenix7700 | is player 2 set as user? |
| 02:49.47 | Phyxius117 | yea |
| 02:49.49 | Phyxius117 | i set player 2 asw user |
| 02:49.58 | hawker | Nash, are you here? |
| 02:50.04 | Phyxius117 | and i placed a nexus as his base |
| 02:50.17 | Phyxius117 | but his nexus is hostile to me when i press the test map button on the editor |
| 02:50.26 | phoenix7700 | hmm |
| 02:50.50 | Phyxius117 | you wanna take a look at the map? maybe i'll email it to you |
| 02:51.49 | phoenix7700 | i've got my editor open im looking at settings |
| 02:52.04 | Phyxius117 | so i got a nexus for each player placed |
| 02:52.09 | Phyxius117 | and start location placed |
| 02:52.23 | Phyxius117 | and each one set to user and basic team i set up 5 v 5 |
| 02:54.13 | hawker | Did you guys hear about what happened in Norway? |
| 02:54.17 | hawker | Absolutely horrific |
| 02:56.17 | vailreth | did not hear |
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| 02:57.15 | hawker | Someone dressed |
| 02:57.26 | hawker | As a police officer shot 80 youth dead at a camp |
| 02:57.38 | hawker | Just after a bomb attack in Oslo |
| 02:57.44 | hawker | 87 dead in all |
| 02:58.04 | Phyxius117 | nvm phoenix i figured out |
| 02:58.09 | Phyxius117 | i added game initialization trigger |
| 02:58.39 | phoenix7700 | i was about to ask that |
| 02:59.01 | phoenix7700 | cus by default you arn't allied with anyone |
| 02:59.19 | phoenix7700 | you should also make sure you have fixed teams |
| 02:59.33 | phoenix7700 | unless you want people to be able to change allianes |
| 02:59.37 | phoenix7700 | alliances |
| 02:59.38 | vailreth | thats horrific.. |
| 02:59.54 | Phyxius117 | how do i make it fixed? |
| 03:00.04 | phoenix7700 | uhhh |
| 03:00.07 | phoenix7700 | i dont remember |
| 03:00.21 | phoenix7700 | its in game attributes |
| 03:00.23 | phoenix7700 | i think |
| 03:00.34 | hawker | Yes |
| 03:00.34 | phoenix7700 | or |
| 03:00.35 | hawker | Quite |
| 03:00.37 | phoenix7700 | variants |
| 03:00.47 | phoenix7700 | Locked Alliances YES |
| 03:01.10 | Phyxius117 | thx |
| 03:01.24 | hawker | Make sure your map isn't derivative ;) |
| 03:01.35 | phoenix7700 | that too |
| 03:01.40 | phoenix7700 | cus then it'll be boring |
| 03:02.25 | Phyxius117 | Derivative? |
| 03:02.48 | Phyxius117 | what does that mean? |
| 03:02.50 | phoenix7700 | based off of another game |
| 03:02.51 | hawker | essentially |
| 03:02.53 | Phyxius117 | ah |
| 03:02.56 | hawker | it means unoriginal |
| 03:03.10 | hawker | So don't just make another footman clone :D |
| 03:03.12 | phoenix7700 | it's ok if its based off of anther game if you make big changes |
| 03:03.19 | Phyxius117 | well the idea is |
| 03:03.47 | Phyxius117 | like line hero war from wc3 with elements from footman frenzy, star battle, and heroes style like dota but no items that are based off greek mythology |
| 03:03.56 | hawker | Try to add some unique elements |
| 03:04.02 | hawker | Also, do the terraining well |
| 03:04.12 | Phyxius117 | you can upgrade your hero's stats at your base as well as units spawned |
| 03:04.17 | phoenix7700 | but i hate terraining |
| 03:04.21 | Phyxius117 | i got my terrain done |
| 03:04.28 | Phyxius117 | now it's making all the heroes and itnerface and triggers |
| 03:04.38 | Phyxius117 | which i don't know how to do well |
| 03:04.51 | phoenix7700 | im working in the opposite direction |
| 03:04.58 | phoenix7700 | making all the triggers then terrain |
| 03:05.04 | hawker | Just make sure it's not atrocious |
| 03:05.06 | Frostwind | is very bored due to being unable to work on his project due to a problem with an animation |
| 03:05.11 | phoenix7700 | also im not doing the terrain :D |
| 03:05.16 | hawker | lol |
| 03:05.43 | phoenix7700 | mmmmhmmm |
| 03:05.57 | phoenix7700 | getting kind of bored of mapping atm |
| 03:06.03 | phoenix7700 | might play some tf2! |
| 03:07.54 | Phyxius117 | here is what the map look like http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v464/phyxius117/Sc2/map.jpg pretty straight forward. all the units spawned from each base will meet in the middle then forward to the corresponding enemy base |
| 03:08.33 | Phyxius117 | then two neutral unit/special upgrades in the middle |
| 03:09.32 | phoenix7700 | you should make the ground different colors |
| 03:09.37 | phoenix7700 | like the top and bottom |
| 03:09.49 | phoenix7700 | to show that you are on different sides |
| 03:09.51 | Phyxius117 | like completely different? |
| 03:10.05 | phoenix7700 | like bottom is grass and top is desert |
| 03:10.07 | phoenix7700 | or something like that |
| 03:10.13 | Phyxius117 | well base colors are different |
| 03:10.16 | Phyxius117 | top of dirt |
| 03:10.20 | Phyxius117 | bottom is stone |
| 03:10.30 | phoenix7700 | looks like all grass to me |
| 03:10.44 | Phyxius117 | yea my regions are blocking it |
| 03:10.52 | Phyxius117 | alright i'll try that |
| 03:11.15 | phoenix7700 | also try to mix it up some, so you dont get the repeating effect |
| 03:11.27 | phoenix7700 | use the slightly different shades |
| 03:11.34 | phoenix7700 | so you can't see the repeating |
| 03:11.58 | phoenix7700 | looks better if you can't see where it starts the pattern |
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| 03:16.09 | vailreth | grr |
| 03:16.25 | Agouti | backs away from the scary dog |
| 03:16.31 | Agouti | good doggy |
| 03:16.35 | vailreth | ha |
| 03:16.48 | vailreth | hows thing Agou |
| 03:16.52 | vailreth | mon |
| 03:16.56 | Agouti | good mate |
| 03:16.58 | Agouti | yourself? |
| 03:17.03 | vailreth | ok |
| 03:17.08 | Frostwind | is very bored due to being unable to work on his project due to a problem with an animation |
| 03:17.33 | vailreth | i need to get on my project but i dont want to work on it right now |
| 03:17.36 | Vexal | why is no one talking to me |
| 03:18.00 | vailreth | because you are not taking to any one esle? |
| 03:18.01 | Agouti | because you haven't had a shower in days, Vexal |
| 03:18.10 | Vexal | that's not true. |
| 03:18.16 | Agouti | you smelly hippy ;P |
| 03:18.25 | Vexal | you can't smell over the internet. |
| 03:18.29 | vailreth | yet |
| 03:18.37 | Agouti | I can |
| 03:18.39 | vailreth | but there are scientists trying to change that |
| 03:18.44 | Agouti | because I'm just that awesome |
| 03:20.11 | vailreth | i see |
| 03:20.40 | Nash|327 | I ate too much ramenz |
| 03:20.51 | vailreth | hm |
| 03:21.27 | Frostwind | sighs |
| 03:21.30 | Phyxius117 | ok done |
| 03:21.32 | Frostwind | oh the boredom |
| 03:21.40 | vailreth | oh the inhumanity |
| 03:23.00 | Agouti | Nash you been to a hotel recently? |
| 03:23.01 | Agouti | http://i.imgur.com/1cilG.jpg |
| 03:23.25 | Nash|327 | no |
| 03:23.26 | hawker | http://www.myfacewhen.net/uploads/615-dayum-shame.jpg <-- marine kittun |
| 03:24.58 | Phyxius117 | Phoenix you there? |
| 03:25.01 | phoenix7700 | ya |
| 03:25.08 | Phyxius117 | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v464/phyxius117/Sc2/map2.jpg |
| 03:25.12 | Phyxius117 | check now |
| 03:25.15 | Phyxius117 | tell me what you think |
| 03:25.40 | phoenix7700 | yeah thats good |
| 03:25.46 | Phyxius117 | sweet |
| 03:32.10 | Frostwind | :( |
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| 03:32.29 | hawker | Turn that frown upside down!!! |
| 03:32.30 | hawker | LD |
| 03:32.31 | hawker | LD |
| 03:32.32 | hawker | :D |
| 03:33.44 | phoenix7700 | :( |
| 03:33.46 | phoenix7700 | ): |
| 03:33.54 | hawker | DON'T DO THAT |
| 03:33.58 | Frostwind | is very bored due to being unable to work on his project due to a problem with an animation |
| 03:35.02 | Phyxius117 | so i'm thinking about making custome units but takes too much work.. should i just use regular star craft 2 units and change their abilities? |
| 03:40.20 | Agouti | there is a difference? |
| 03:40.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster Entropy (81aa5c67@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.170.92.103) |
| 03:40.29 | Entropy | Hi |
| 03:41.33 | Nash|327 | Entropy is a bitch D; |
| 03:41.37 | Nash|327 | Not you. |
| 03:41.41 | Entropy | Oh |
| 03:41.45 | Nash|327 | But entropy. |
| 03:41.47 | Entropy | I have a question about Galaxy |
| 03:41.51 | Entropy | Yeah, it is :P |
| 03:42.01 | hawker | http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs40/f/2009/039/1/8/Mah_lolcat_by_cougirl94.jpg |
| 03:42.23 | Entropy | How can I order drones to mine? |
| 03:42.31 | Entropy | Funny pick, hawk :P |
| 03:43.22 | Nash|327 | order drones? |
| 03:43.41 | Nash|327 | right click? |
| 03:43.48 | Entropy | In galaxy |
| 03:43.52 | Entropy | Like with triggers |
| 03:44.10 | Nash|327 | ah, issue order action? |
| 03:44.30 | Entropy | I can't find it |
| 03:44.51 | Entropy | Issue order to (group with my drones) |
| 03:44.57 | Entropy | And then what order to issue? |
| 03:45.04 | Nash|327 | gather? |
| 03:45.12 | Entropy | Erm... |
| 03:45.17 | Entropy | There's return cargo |
| 03:45.19 | Entropy | But no gather |
| 03:45.41 | Nash|327 | what ability type are you looking at? |
| 03:45.58 | Entropy | The ability is called drone - gather, I think |
| 03:46.03 | Entropy | Let me look, one sec |
| 03:46.29 | Entropy | drone - gather and the ability command is gather |
| 03:46.40 | Nash|327 | in trigger |
| 03:46.46 | Nash|327 | what type of order |
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| 03:47.34 | Entropy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.56 | phoenix7700 | return cargo only works if they already have minerals |
| 03:47.59 | Nash|327 | that does not show order type |
| 03:48.15 | Entropy | What do you mean, then? |
| 03:48.32 | Nash|327 | order with no target |
| 03:48.37 | Nash|327 | order targetting point |
| 03:48.40 | Entropy | Issue order to unit group? |
| 03:48.41 | Nash|327 | order targetting unit |
| 03:49.26 | Nash|327 | look at your action |
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| 03:49.41 | Entropy | Oh |
| 03:49.42 | Mephs | ~sixen |
| 03:49.42 | purl | i guess sixen is the type of guy who likes to stick his penis in other mans penises |
| 03:49.43 | Entropy | I seee |
| 03:49.45 | Entropy | One minute |
| 03:50.17 | Nash|327 | ~mephs |
| 03:50.17 | purl | mephs is, like, someone with three more yachts than you! |
| 03:50.54 | Entropy | Which type do I need? |
| 03:50.55 | Nash|327 | dunno |
| 03:51.01 | vailreth | any body else miss rocko's modern life |
| 03:51.04 | Nash|327 | minerals are a type of unit |
| 03:51.15 | Agouti | rockooooooo's modern life |
| 03:51.16 | Nash|327 | to presumably target unit |
| 03:51.19 | Agouti | (rockos modern life) |
| 03:51.29 | Entropy | Aha! |
| 03:51.30 | Entropy | Works |
| 03:51.31 | Entropy | Tysm :D |
| 03:51.40 | Entropy | Is that OK if I come back with more questions later? |
| 03:52.01 | Nash|327 | Yes, but bring kittuns. |
| 03:52.02 | Wiz10011 | NO! YOU MAY NEVER RETURN! |
| 03:52.30 | Entropy | Kittens for huffing? |
| 03:52.36 | Nash|327 | NO |
| 03:52.40 | Wiz10011 | He likes to put kittuns in bags and cook them. |
| 03:52.45 | Nash|327 | lies |
| 03:52.46 | Wiz10011 | seriously. |
| 03:52.56 | Nash|327 | I put kittuns in bags |
| 03:52.59 | Nash|327 | and pet them |
| 03:53.18 | Wiz10011 | by pet, he means deep fry them so they are crispy |
| 03:53.20 | Nash|327 | cook for them, perhaps |
| 03:53.33 | Nash|327 | tasty kittuntreats |
| 03:53.50 | Agouti | kittuns do make for tasty treats |
| 03:53.58 | Wiz10011 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.59 | vailreth | one day with in my lifetime i hope they inventy the bio gynoid cabbit girl companion-oid |
| 03:54.15 | Wiz10011 | the whata whata whata? |
| 03:54.18 | hawker | :| |
| 03:54.32 | Nash|327 | kittun hate |
| 03:54.36 | Nash|327 | kill yourselves |
| 03:54.45 | vailreth | a bio gynoid would be a organic syntehtical female... |
| 03:54.47 | Nash|327 | you pathetic beings |
| 03:54.52 | vailreth | humanoid ofcourse |
| 03:54.55 | hawker | http://img.izismile.com/img/img3/20100526/640/for_all_the_640_06.jpg |
| 03:54.57 | Nash|327 | D; |
| 03:55.11 | vailreth | as for cabbit girls they are so adorable ... |
| 03:55.12 | Entropy | How do I check if a player has a pool? |
| 03:55.27 | Wiz10011 | has a pool? |
| 03:55.33 | Entropy | Spawning pool |
| 03:55.35 | Entropy | In galaxy |
| 03:55.49 | Entropy | Well, any building in general, really |
| 03:56.04 | hawker | What is a cabbit girl? |
| 03:56.11 | Wiz10011 | Conditions! god look with thats, Nows the time to bring Nash those kittuns. |
| 03:56.12 | hawker | Some nightmarish cabbage rabbit chimera? |
| 03:56.35 | Nash|327 | kittuns |
| 03:57.08 | Wiz10011 | how the hell did I type god looks with that? I meant Good luck with that. I swear my hands have a mind of their own. |
| 03:57.10 | Nash|327 | are you trying to code an AI using a bunch of triggers or something? |
| 03:57.10 | hawker | hatars gan hate cat |
| 03:57.30 | vailreth | a cabbit gril is a humanoid cabbit... |
| 03:57.36 | vailreth | that is female |
| 03:57.48 | Entropy | I'm trying to code an AI to six pool me |
| 03:57.53 | vailreth | look up ryo ohki from tenchi muyo |
| 03:58.36 | Nash|327 | I haven't coded an AI, but I don't think you're supposed to issue a bunch of orders. |
| 03:58.42 | hawker | yes, but what is a cabbit? |
| 03:58.43 | hawker | :| |
| 03:58.47 | Wiz10011 | I see your Haters going to hate Hawker, and Raise you a drunken night! |
| 03:58.49 | Wiz10011 | http://www.damnlol.com/what-the-heck-happened-last-night-3405.html |
| 03:59.02 | vailreth | a cabbit is part cat part rabbit |
| 03:59.13 | Nash|327 | abomination |
| 03:59.17 | hawker | Furry... |
| 03:59.20 | vailreth | again ryo ohli from tenchi muyo |
| 03:59.29 | vailreth | Ryo Ohki* |
| 03:59.45 | hawker | It IS some sort of freakish chimera |
| 03:59.58 | vailreth | and that is a problem? |
| 04:00.13 | Wiz10011 | Well seeing how you want a robotic companion, No not really. |
| 04:00.22 | vailreth | who said robotic |
| 04:00.38 | vailreth | i said bio gynoid there is a world of diffrence |
| 04:00.38 | Wiz10011 | [23:53] <vailreth> one day with in my lifetime i hope they inventy the bio gynoid cabbit girl companion-oid |
| 04:00.48 | hawker | Oh god it's organic... |
| 04:00.51 | Wiz10011 | So wait you want them to grow you thingy campion? |
| 04:01.01 | vailreth | not just me |
| 04:01.03 | hawker | I can just imagine it screaming |
| 04:01.16 | vailreth | screaming? |
| 04:01.16 | Wiz10011 | Vailreth, you need to get laid. |
| 04:01.21 | vailreth | yes i do |
| 04:01.25 | hawker | Some freakish genetic abnormality |
| 04:01.36 | Wiz10011 | And not with that freaky thing you're talking about. |
| 04:01.42 | vailreth | yeah |
| 04:01.44 | vailreth | i know |
| 04:01.46 | Nash|327 | so sad... |
| 04:01.55 | vailreth | but girls around here arent worth persuing |
| 04:02.15 | hawker | Doesn't mean you resort to bestiality |
| 04:02.16 | hawker | :| |
| 04:02.22 | Nash|327 | girls aren't worth pursuing |
| 04:02.24 | Wiz10011 | Nash, you know if they did come out with one of whatever Vailreth is talking about, you would get a kittun type instead of that cabbit, |
| 04:02.25 | Nash|327 | asexual ftw |
| 04:02.28 | hawker | Right on que nash |
| 04:02.39 | vailreth | its not beastiality..if the subject is humaoid |
| 04:02.42 | vailreth | humanoid |
| 04:02.45 | Wiz10011 | hawker, Would it be considered Bestiality if it's a human made organic clone? |
| 04:02.51 | Nash|327 | I don't want some abomination |
| 04:03.18 | hawker | Well, that thing would not be considered human by any stretch of the imagination |
| 04:03.34 | hawker | So I suppose it would receive some alternate |
| 04:03.38 | hawker | Classification |
| 04:03.49 | Wiz10011 | Humanoid. I assume Vailreth meant it's humanoid but has the appearence of that cabbit animal. |
| 04:03.50 | hawker | But I think bestiality is the most appropriate |
| 04:04.01 | vailreth | and i my self would become a chimera if i could... |
| 04:04.05 | Nash|327 | furry |
| 04:04.15 | vailreth | i would assume traits from reptiles wolves and bats atleast |
| 04:04.21 | Nash|327 | furry |
| 04:04.27 | hawker | If this were anywhere other than the mapster chat |
| 04:04.28 | vailreth | no. |
| 04:04.28 | Wiz10011 | Really? I would become a kitten and sleep all day, (And make sure I stay away from nash, Dont want to be thrown in a bag) |
| 04:04.32 | hawker | Troll mode would be engaged |
| 04:04.36 | hawker | But I am resisting |
| 04:04.41 | Nash|327 | Kittuns like bags. |
| 04:04.43 | hawker | :_ |
| 04:04.45 | vailreth | any who |
| 04:05.00 | Nash|327 | You would be a crappy kittun. |
| 04:05.09 | vailreth | i am working on an ability and i dont know if it will work out like io hope |
| 04:05.12 | hawker | Those triggers are sure cool, aren't they! |
| 04:05.15 | hawker | HA! |
| 04:05.17 | Wiz10011 | Aslong as i was allowed to sleep all day, wouldn't care |
| 04:05.19 | Nash|327 | Kittuns love bags, boxes, etc. |
| 04:05.52 | Nash|327 | Sleep is a necessary evil. |
| 04:05.57 | hawker | The tail of one of my cats was severed by a door |
| 04:06.03 | Nash|327 | Doing that shit all day, ew. |
| 04:06.03 | hawker | Once |
| 04:06.19 | Wiz10011 | My kitten hates boxes, bags, anything really that restricts it. |
| 04:06.27 | Nash|327 | oddtun |
| 04:06.37 | hawker | My cats rurve bags |
| 04:06.47 | vailreth | rurve? |
| 04:06.48 | Wiz10011 | You can have him nash, just come pick him up. |
| 04:06.54 | Frostwind | is very bored due to being unable to work on his project due to a problem with an animation |
| 04:07.16 | Wiz10011 | ~frostwind |
| 04:07.24 | Nash|327 | hawker bag kittuns and take pics |
| 04:07.24 | Wiz10011 | Blah what was that command? |
| 04:07.34 | hawker | Naw |
| 04:07.36 | vailreth | ~Frostwind |
| 04:07.40 | hawker | Maybe later |
| 04:07.40 | Nash|327 | sadface |
| 04:07.48 | Wiz10011 | Frostwind broke it. |
| 04:07.53 | vailreth | must hafe |
| 04:07.55 | vailreth | have |
| 04:08.00 | Wiz10011 | ~vailreth |
| 04:08.11 | Wiz10011 | Yep, Frostwind broke it. Good job frostwind. |
| 04:08.27 | vailreth | ~8ball did Frostwind Break Purl |
| 04:08.27 | purl | Negative. |
| 04:08.55 | Wiz10011 | ~8ball does vailreth need professional help? |
| 04:08.55 | purl | Yes. |
| 04:09.07 | Wiz10011 | You heard him Vailreth! seek some help! |
| 04:09.09 | Nash|327 | purl speaks :G |
| 04:09.13 | vailreth | wonder what kind of profesional |
| 04:09.32 | vailreth | ~purl do i need to go to The Bunny Ranch? |
| 04:09.32 | purl | ACTION does i need to go to The Bunny Ranch. |
| 04:09.37 | vailreth | gah |
| 04:09.46 | Wiz10011 | Nice |
| 04:09.50 | vailreth | ~8ball Do i need to go to The Bunny Ranch >..> |
| 04:09.50 | purl | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 04:10.04 | Nash|327 | oh someone's been talking about he-who-must-not-be-named |
| 04:10.26 | Wiz10011 | voidermolt? |
| 04:10.37 | Wiz10011 | ~8ball Is harry Pothead real? |
| 04:10.37 | purl | Are you smoking crack? |
| 04:10.38 | vailreth | icecovered stuff movine air |
| 04:10.56 | vailreth | ~8ball am I real? |
| 04:10.56 | purl | Absolutely. |
| 04:11.07 | hawker | ~{AIPSHDA |
| 04:11.07 | hawker | SFHASGFasgkfap[s |
| 04:11.13 | vailreth | ~8ball Are you just saying that? |
| 04:11.13 | purl | Negative. |
| 04:11.24 | Wiz10011 | ~8ball Will Hawker ever make real friends? |
| 04:11.24 | purl | No. |
| 04:11.26 | Nash|327 | spamtastic |
| 04:11.30 | vailreth | ~8ball so you are sure i am real? |
| 04:11.30 | purl | I'm sure of it. |
| 04:11.46 | vailreth | yay |
| 04:11.47 | Wiz10011 | Nothing else going on Nash. |
| 04:11.52 | vailreth | im a real boy |
| 04:11.59 | Wiz10011 | ~8ball you been lying to Vailreth right? |
| 04:11.59 | purl | I'm sure of it. |
| 04:12.05 | vailreth | damn |
| 04:12.25 | vailreth | ~*ball Is that true? |
| 04:12.26 | purl | vailreth: okay |
| 04:12.51 | Wiz10011 | Poor Vailreth. |
| 04:13.00 | vailreth | ~8ball are you lying to me? |
| 04:13.00 | purl | Please ask again. |
| 04:13.10 | vailreth | ~8ball are you lying to me? |
| 04:13.10 | purl | I'm not sure. |
| 04:13.18 | Wiz10011 | ~8ball are you lying to him? |
| 04:13.18 | purl | Unsure. |
| 04:14.01 | vailreth | ~ball |
| 04:14.01 | purl | well, ball is the Asterisk Join/Part/Away/Quit script :-) |
| 04:14.11 | Wiz10011 | So what's new? |
| 04:14.47 | vailreth | i think purl has broken me |
| 04:14.48 | Nash|327 | you shall give me kittuns |
| 04:15.00 | hawker | Well |
| 04:15.01 | Wiz10011 | ~8ball Shall I give nash kittuns? |
| 04:15.01 | purl | Yes. |
| 04:15.01 | vailreth | i will give you nossing |
| 04:15.13 | Vexal | ? |
| 04:15.20 | hawker | At least Cabbit = Cat + Rabbit is better than Cabbit = Cabbage + Rabbit |
| 04:15.27 | Wiz10011 | ~8ball Shall I give nash wood kittuns? |
| 04:15.27 | purl | Unsure. |
| 04:15.31 | Nash|327 | No. |
| 04:15.57 | Nash|327 | The latter is at least an abomination that doesn't involve kittuns. |
| 04:16.27 | vailreth | mutate the kittuns |
| 04:16.37 | vailreth | talk like a dalek |
| 04:16.46 | hawker | Are you sure the cabbit-thing wouldn't devour you? |
| 04:17.04 | vailreth | i dont know |
| 04:17.12 | hawker | Or make a mess |
| 04:17.37 | vailreth | hmm depends on the programing i would assume |
| 04:17.38 | hawker | The thought of having such a thing in my house is terrifying |
| 04:17.39 | hawker | lol |
| 04:18.10 | vailreth | well im sure first Gen Bio-roids would be pure human type |
| 04:18.30 | hawker | is this from an anime? |
| 04:18.31 | hawker | just out of |
| 04:18.33 | hawker | curiosity |
| 04:19.01 | vailreth | the concept of the bio-roid is comon is nots of different sci fi mediums |
| 04:19.13 | hawker | Essentially biological android? |
| 04:19.25 | vailreth | in essesnce yes |
| 04:19.28 | hawker | Ah, well that is a little less disturbing |
| 04:19.32 | hawker | Then what I pictured |
| 04:19.34 | hawker | Initially |
| 04:19.41 | vailreth | though android denotes masuclinity |
| 04:20.30 | hawker | I just thought it referred to any humanoid robot |
| 04:20.32 | hawker | Anyway |
| 04:20.43 | hawker | Initially pictured a humanoid animal with rabbit and cat features |
| 04:20.45 | hawker | Suffice to say |
| 04:20.46 | hawker | Unpleasnt |
| 04:21.04 | vailreth | only in the same way that Man referres to humans in general |
| 04:21.20 | Nash|327 | http://chzmemebase.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/memes-i-have.jpg |
| 04:21.22 | Nash|327 | vailreth |
| 04:21.28 | Nash|327 | you reminded me of that |
| 04:21.28 | hawker | http://www.chocogaz.com/images/phatbishie/cabbit/cabbit-04.jpg |
| 04:21.38 | hawker | http://www.chocogaz.com/images/phatbishie/cabbit/cabbit-04.jpg <-- someone's wayyyyy ahead of you vail ;) |
| 04:22.17 | vailreth | ok im not THAT Nerd... |
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| 04:22.43 | vailreth | its just that there are NO local women worth dating around here... |
| 04:23.03 | vailreth | if you dont treat them like they are dirt the girls around her treat you like you are gay. |
| 04:23.18 | timecat | sounds like you're talking to the wrong girls |
| 04:23.38 | Nash|327 | There are plenty of women here, I don't date any of them |
| 04:23.43 | vailreth | that would be the overwhelming majority around here... |
| 04:24.03 | hawker | http://www.catsofaustralia.com/images/River-british-shorthair.jpg kittun |
| 04:24.17 | Nash|327 | Doesn't mean I dream about furries instead. |
| 04:24.29 | vailreth | i dont dream about furries |
| 04:24.37 | Nash|327 | uh-huh |
| 04:24.49 | hawker | suuuure there |
| 04:24.58 | vailreth | i just would like a bio gynoid companion and the anthro models wouldnt be out of the question |
| 04:25.09 | timecat | ^ |
| 04:25.15 | hawker | Is it a companion or a "companion" |
| 04:25.21 | Frostwind | is very bored due to being unable to work on his project due to a problem with an animation |
| 04:25.30 | Nash|327 | Get yourself a furry real doll |
| 04:25.34 | hawker | Is there a cool breeze blowing through here? |
| 04:25.40 | hawker | I thought I heard something |
| 04:25.43 | Nash|327 | keke |
| 04:25.43 | vailreth | er no |
| 04:26.09 | hawker | furry. |
| 04:26.10 | timecat | frostwind you should help me with my problem |
| 04:26.14 | hawker | SHHH |
| 04:26.19 | hawker | DON"T PROVOKE HIM |
| 04:26.22 | hawker | HE'S LIKE AN ANIMAL |
| 04:26.29 | Frostwind | timecat: I'll pass |
| 04:26.45 | timecat | well i'm gonna throw it out anyway |
| 04:26.46 | hawker | He doesn't waste his time with us mortals |
| 04:27.03 | timecat | how do i get the medivac's beam to continue healing after i target something else w/ it |
| 04:27.20 | hawker | Well, off to play mass effect |
| 04:27.27 | timecat | so that it can target multiple units at once |
| 04:27.28 | hawker | Nash, I'll have that finished by tomorrow >.> |
| 04:27.30 | hawker | <.< |
| 04:27.35 | hawker | >.< |
| 04:27.36 | Nash|327 | zug zug |
| 04:27.45 | hawker | gn |
| 04:27.52 | vailreth | you would have to make a heal ability like the medivac from the campaign |
| 04:28.09 | vailreth | or use the campaign medivac and make some changes |
| 04:28.28 | timecat | ok |
| 04:29.48 | timecat | oh ffs thats a lot of effects |
| 04:30.51 | Agouti | Anybody know if it's possible to modify or create attachment queries? |
| 04:31.23 | Agouti | wait, never mind, I derped |
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| 04:40.10 | TheRageKage | hi |
| 04:41.02 | Nash|327 | You bring kittuns for me? |
| 04:41.21 | TheRageKage | oodles |
| 04:41.27 | Nash|327 | Proceed. |
| 04:41.36 | TheRageKage | i'm trying to figure out the map editor |
| 04:42.13 | TheRageKage | basically i want a unit to move away from one thats trying to attack it |
| 04:42.30 | TheRageKage | so if a zealot is a-moving towards a marine i want the marine to move |
| 04:42.45 | Nash|327 | auto-kite? |
| 04:42.47 | TheRageKage | yeah |
| 04:43.10 | Agouti | have a buff with a search that makes it flee if a unit comes too close? |
| 04:43.25 | TheRageKage | perhaps |
| 04:43.34 | Agouti | with a validator "unit is attacking" to stop it fleeing when weapon is not on CD |
| 04:43.49 | TheRageKage | hm makes sense |
| 04:44.11 | TheRageKage | is there a validator that i can use to keep it moving if its being attacked? |
| 04:44.19 | Agouti | unit is in combat |
| 04:44.23 | Agouti | unit taken damage |
| 04:44.26 | Agouti | there are a few |
| 04:44.30 | TheRageKage | looked at those |
| 04:44.36 | TheRageKage | didn't really try the combat one |
| 04:44.43 | TheRageKage | unit taken damage fires when it gets hit |
| 04:45.16 | Agouti | Caster not in combat will return false if it has taken damage in the last 1s |
| 04:45.23 | Agouti | from an enemy unit |
| 04:45.38 | TheRageKage | interesting |
| 04:45.42 | TheRageKage | before i was trying to use an effect |
| 04:45.47 | TheRageKage | with the Ability set to Move |
| 04:45.47 | Agouti | I use that for a buff which gets disabled on taking damage |
| 04:46.09 | Agouti | it's a little tricky but it should be more than possible |
| 04:46.18 | TheRageKage | indeed |
| 04:46.22 | vailreth | Agouti how good are you with actors? |
| 04:46.43 | Agouti | reasonable |
| 04:46.49 | Agouti | i'm not prozaicmuse |
| 04:47.14 | vailreth | i need to play a models Global Loop Stand animation instead of its Stand animation |
| 04:47.35 | Agouti | http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/attach-methods/ |
| 04:47.37 | Agouti | booo |
| 04:47.39 | Agouti | all 404's |
| 04:47.50 | Agouti | oh, that is easy vail |
| 04:48.07 | Nash|327 | 404 kittuns? |
| 04:48.27 | Agouti | just change it in the Animation - Baselines |
| 04:48.35 | Agouti | Animation - Baselines +(Stand (Global Loop)|Walk):(-1.0000|-1.0000):(-1.0000|-1.0000) |
| 04:48.57 | Agouti | if you are doing stuff with the psi disruptor |
| 04:49.19 | Agouti | I can help with getting the animations right as well ;) |
| 04:49.46 | vailreth | i am using the psi disruptor model as my instant vendor |
| 04:50.13 | Frostwind | yawns from the boredom |
| 04:50.16 | Agouti | so you don't need to play it's stand animation for casting? |
| 04:50.25 | Agouti | if not, simply change the baseline and you are all done |
| 04:51.02 | vailreth | i need it to play the stand animation when it use a sell abiliy but otherise i want the stand global loop playing |
| 04:51.10 | Agouti | right |
| 04:51.11 | Agouti | well |
| 04:51.20 | Agouti | the stand animation actually has 2 impacts |
| 04:51.31 | Agouti | so you will need to be a little clever with the actor event |
| 04:52.23 | TheRageKage | i think EnemyTarget might work |
| 04:52.28 | TheRageKage | if i'm interpreting it correctly |
| 04:52.35 | TheRageKage | or maybe Target Is Enemy |
| 04:52.57 | Agouti | I had sucess with animation play properties: stand, flag: non looping, time varient 1.0, time type: time scale |
| 04:54.54 | Agouti | though I did also have a anim stop on source cast stop |
| 04:55.35 | Agouti | anybody know about attachment methods? |
| 04:56.21 | vailreth | ive tried playing with those |
| 04:58.26 | Agouti | I'm trying to work out how the marauders attachment method is set up |
| 04:58.33 | Agouti | so that it launches from a random side |
| 04:59.28 | Nash|327 | probably has its own launch pattern in launch attachment query |
| 04:59.41 | vailreth | with out knowing what Base and Driver fields do ... |
| 04:59.49 | Agouti | well yes nash |
| 04:59.57 | Agouti | of course it has it's own attach method |
| 05:00.03 | Agouti | that is why I am asking about them... |
| 05:00.15 | Nash|327 | ah |
| 05:00.26 | Nash|327 | too tired |
| 05:00.37 | Agouti | it's really not very clear how it works, though |
| 05:00.42 | Agouti | FieldPattern Marauder |
| 05:00.43 | Agouti | Base::RollingIndex |
| 05:01.21 | Agouti | the other one which I was looking at was the one for the missile turret |
| 05:01.29 | Agouti | because that always starts on a particular index |
| 05:01.42 | Agouti | and uses each one in turn for a persitant effect |
| 05:01.46 | Nash|327 | reaper has that... double tap |
| 05:01.51 | Agouti | that too |
| 05:02.05 | Nash|327 | pewpew |
| 05:03.10 | Nash|327 | blargh |
| 05:03.39 | Agouti | actually, marauder isn't random |
| 05:03.44 | Agouti | it alternates |
| 05:03.53 | Agouti | probably to do with ::RollingIndex |
| 05:04.07 | TheRageKage | hm |
| 05:04.22 | Agouti | I think that is what patterns are for |
| 05:04.24 | Nash|327 | I don't want to sleep but my brain is not working |
| 05:04.27 | TheRageKage | there's a behavior that tells you unit A is attacking unit B |
| 05:04.41 | TheRageKage | so then when that happens, can i fire off some event on unit B |
| 05:04.43 | Agouti | behaviour? |
| 05:04.48 | Agouti | not really |
| 05:05.01 | TheRageKage | that would be an effect? |
| 05:05.02 | Agouti | there is a validator which will tell you |
| 05:05.04 | Agouti | no |
| 05:05.06 | TheRageKage | ah sorry |
| 05:05.10 | TheRageKage | thats what i meant >_> |
| 05:05.13 | Frostwind | :( |
| 05:05.17 | TheRageKage | yeah there's a validator |
| 05:05.24 | TheRageKage | that tells you unit A is attacking unit B |
| 05:05.33 | Nash|327 | if unit A is attacking unit B and you want to do an effect on unit B |
| 05:05.38 | Nash|327 | just add it to weapon |
| 05:05.42 | Nash|327 | of unit A |
| 05:05.45 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 05:05.47 | TheRageKage | well i want unit B to do something |
| 05:05.55 | TheRageKage | i want unit B to move away |
| 05:06.14 | Agouti | just use a response effect |
| 05:06.25 | Agouti | or set it as part of the response of the weapon |
| 05:06.35 | Agouti | That is what Acquire/Flee is for |
| 05:07.08 | Nash|327 | give unit B's weapon a min range |
| 05:07.24 | Nash|327 | might make it flee if attacked in melee |
| 05:07.32 | Nash|327 | because it can't fight back |
| 05:07.37 | Frostwind | yawns |
| 05:07.51 | phoenix7700 | make it so the units doesn't aquire |
| 05:08.55 | TheRageKage | how do i do that now >_> |
| 05:09.08 | TheRageKage | i'm looking at the weapons |
| 05:09.11 | Nash|327 | try min range in weapon |
| 05:09.12 | phoenix7700 | its one of the flags |
| 05:09.26 | TheRageKage | ah |
| 05:09.32 | TheRageKage | Acquire Target SOrts? |
| 05:09.34 | Nash|327 | it's what I would do |
| 05:10.38 | Nash|327 | gonna sleep before I have a heart attack and/or start babbling |
| 05:11.21 | phoenix7700 | what was the original question |
| 05:11.25 | phoenix7700 | i missed it |
| 05:11.34 | phoenix7700 | what are you trying to get done i mean |
| 05:11.56 | Frostwind | is very bored due to being unable to work on his project due to a problem with an animation |
| 05:11.58 | TheRageKage | TheRageKagei'm trying to figure out the map editor |
| 05:11.59 | TheRageKage | TheRageKagebasically i want a unit to move away from one thats trying to attack it |
| 05:12.01 | TheRageKage | TheRageKageso if a zealot is a-moving towards a marine i want the marine to move |
| 05:12.12 | TheRageKage | i think the minimum range thing is a good suggestion |
| 05:12.26 | vailreth | interesting two seemingly unused medivac upgrages |
| 05:12.28 | TheRageKage | if i can get the weapon to only attack a certain unit |
| 05:12.30 | vailreth | upgrades |
| 05:12.39 | phoenix7700 | do you want it to be able to attack units nearby though? |
| 05:12.59 | TheRageKage | yeah it would only move away from certain ones |
| 05:13.06 | phoenix7700 | if you put a minimum your marine can't attack nearby at all |
| 05:13.10 | TheRageKage | i know |
| 05:13.12 | TheRageKage | thats the issue |
| 05:13.24 | phoenix7700 | you can make it not aquire targets |
| 05:13.37 | phoenix7700 | i think its under the weapon |
| 05:14.02 | TheRageKage | yeah there are acquire fields |
| 05:14.12 | TheRageKage | Acquire Prioritization and Aquire Target Slots |
| 05:14.16 | XenoX101 | FUCK THIS SHIT |
| 05:14.21 | XenoX101 | stupid fucking editor |
| 05:14.25 | XenoX101 | cant even refresh textures |
| 05:14.28 | phoenix7700 | also |
| 05:14.38 | phoenix7700 | you can chagne the scan filters |
| 05:14.41 | phoenix7700 | scan |
| 05:14.54 | Agouti | xenox, are you talking about terrain textures? |
| 05:15.03 | phoenix7700 | but that might cut out more units than you want |
| 05:15.19 | XenoX101 | no |
| 05:15.19 | XenoX101 | decals |
| 05:15.24 | XenoX101 | its a piece of fucking ass |
| 05:15.28 | XenoX101 | I import the correct decal |
| 05:15.36 | XenoX101 | and it doesnt show up |
| 05:15.38 | XenoX101 | it showed up before |
| 05:15.39 | TheRageKage | alright so i'm looking at the acquire target sorts |
| 05:15.40 | XenoX101 | now its gone |
| 05:15.47 | TheRageKage | i guess i'd want DistanceToTarget |
| 05:16.26 | XenoX101 | this editor is an embarassment |
| 05:17.08 | Agouti | hey xenox, you should go make a better onw |
| 05:17.11 | Agouti | one* |
| 05:17.12 | Agouti | pwease |
| 05:17.15 | Agouti | <3 |
| 05:17.16 | XenoX101 | aha |
| 05:17.21 | XenoX101 | love that argument |
| 05:17.22 | phoenix7700 | do you want it to aquire SOME targets? |
| 05:17.27 | XenoX101 | do movie critics make good movies? |
| 05:17.36 | Agouti | maybe they should |
| 05:17.52 | phoenix7700 | and just not others |
| 05:17.53 | XenoX101 | or maybe the people who are trained to make movies |
| 05:17.59 | XenoX101 | and spend their lives doing it as a profession |
| 05:18.01 | Agouti | better |
| 05:18.08 | Agouti | train movie critics to make movies |
| 05:18.09 | TheRageKage | well it needs to attack |
| 05:18.11 | Agouti | problem solved |
| 05:18.11 | XenoX101 | should be the ones making the good movies |
| 05:18.16 | TheRageKage | take marines and banelings |
| 05:18.20 | Agouti | but they aren't xen |
| 05:18.23 | TheRageKage | basically marine micro |
| 05:18.26 | Agouti | so clearly the system is broken |
| 05:18.47 | phoenix7700 | so you dont want it to attack anything unless specifically told to? |
| 05:19.00 | TheRageKage | no |
| 05:19.09 | TheRageKage | it should just kite banelings |
| 05:19.10 | phoenix7700 | only certain things? |
| 05:19.36 | XenoX101 | I just want |
| 05:19.38 | XenoX101 | this fucking decal |
| 05:19.39 | XenoX101 | to show up |
| 05:19.42 | XenoX101 | is that so much to fucking ask |
| 05:19.44 | phoenix7700 | use the scan filters |
| 05:20.08 | XenoX101 | fuck me |
| 05:20.16 | phoenix7700 | scan filter is the targets that are automatically aquired by weapon |
| 05:20.33 | phoenix7700 | so for c-14 gauss rifle |
| 05:20.47 | phoenix7700 | if you dont want it to attack a specific type |
| 05:21.01 | Agouti | apparently it is xen |
| 05:21.15 | phoenix7700 | but you can still specifically tell them to attack |
| 05:21.23 | Agouti | you should write an angry letter to blizzard, expressing how angry you are |
| 05:21.26 | phoenix7700 | if the target isnt aquired automatically |
| 05:22.05 | vailreth | XenoX did you change anything about the decal inbetween the time it was working and it stopped? |
| 05:22.59 | XenoX101 | no |
| 05:23.14 | TheRageKage | hm |
| 05:23.51 | TheRageKage | i think i'm thinking too far ahead |
| 05:23.57 | TheRageKage | i'll do the simplest case for now |
| 05:24.10 | Frostwind | yawns from all the damn boredom |
| 05:24.15 | TheRageKage | the marines must run away from the banelings when the banelings are targeting them |
| 05:24.23 | phoenix7700 | ahh |
| 05:24.26 | phoenix7700 | then |
| 05:24.27 | TheRageKage | dont worry about attacks or anything |
| 05:24.49 | Frostwind | :( |
| 05:24.54 | vailreth | how are you applying this decal? |
| 05:25.01 | phoenix7700 | thats a bit more difficult |
| 05:25.07 | XenoX101 | it was working fine before |
| 05:25.13 | XenoX101 | name it the same as another decal |
| 05:25.17 | XenoX101 | import |
| 05:25.22 | XenoX101 | set player decal to that one |
| 05:25.26 | phoenix7700 | because the banes don't actually trigger anything on the marines until they attack them |
| 05:25.40 | vailreth | when did it stop working? |
| 05:25.50 | vailreth | with this last patch or a previous one? |
| 05:26.03 | Agouti | Poop... you can't make combines with attachment methods |
| 05:26.05 | XenoX101 | no patch diff |
| 05:26.13 | XenoX101 | and I absolutely fucking love how you cant reset data |
| 05:26.16 | XenoX101 | how fucking stupid is that |
| 05:26.27 | XenoX101 | you can't reset something to the default |
| 05:26.51 | vailreth | you can reset data objects to there parent objects |
| 05:26.58 | XenoX101 | yes which is completely useless |
| 05:27.07 | XenoX101 | if the parents are modified thats it |
| 05:27.29 | XenoX101 | and the ones blizzard uses |
| 05:27.32 | XenoX101 | are not parents in themselves |
| 05:28.00 | XenoX101 | the parents are like "CTexture" |
| 05:28.18 | Frostwind | :( |
| 05:28.31 | XenoX101 | for all those times when |
| 05:28.38 | XenoX101 | you want to reset blizzard data into nothingness |
| 05:28.40 | XenoX101 | -.- |
| 05:28.51 | Frostwind | yawns from all the damn boredom |
| 05:30.08 | XenoX101 | maybe before they release an expansion |
| 05:30.15 | XenoX101 | they should make sure the original game doesn't suck |
| 05:30.47 | vailreth | i am surprised they are taking as long as they are to release the expansion as cobbled together this game is |
| 05:31.08 | TheRageKage | hm ok |
| 05:31.09 | XenoX101 | that is a brilliant way of putting it |
| 05:31.11 | TheRageKage | that makes more sense now |
| 05:31.12 | XenoX101 | cobbled together |
| 05:31.16 | XenoX101 | thats the exact impression I get with sc2 |
| 05:31.30 | TheRageKage | can i rig up the banes to send a message to the marines when they acquire a target? |
| 05:31.39 | vailreth | have you looked into the art assets deeply ... every one who worked on them had their own naming conventions |
| 05:31.56 | XenoX101 | yep |
| 05:31.56 | vailreth | some textures are not even named for the slot they are attached to... |
| 05:32.03 | XenoX101 | Queen of Blades, Kerrigan, some other name |
| 05:32.14 | XenoX101 | and tons of data fields don't actually do anything |
| 05:32.24 | XenoX101 | those flags are deceptive pieces of shit |
| 05:32.35 | vailreth | or do something opossing to their tool tip |
| 05:32.47 | vailreth | if they even have one |
| 05:32.53 | phoenix7700 | HETO |
| 05:32.54 | phoenix7700 | HEYO |
| 05:33.14 | phoenix7700 | figured out how to put the cancel ability on construting buildings |
| 05:33.18 | vailreth | nice |
| 05:33.20 | phoenix7700 | FINALLY |
| 05:33.27 | phoenix7700 | why thats isn't default |
| 05:33.29 | phoenix7700 | NO idea |
| 05:33.44 | TheRageKage | good man |
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| 05:34.16 | vailreth | but the fact of the matter is their production costs were likely fairly low in relation to the amount the have made and will continue to make on this game and its expansions |
| 05:34.16 | Vexal_ | . |
| 05:34.19 | Agouti | I'm still trying to nut out attach filters and patterns |
| 05:34.24 | phoenix7700 | you can use triggers to send do something when banes come close to rines |
| 05:34.24 | Vexal_ | crap i left myself logged on at work |
| 05:34.34 | Agouti | I want a filter for certain points but also a rolling index |
| 05:34.50 | TheRageKage | map level triggers? |
| 05:34.54 | phoenix7700 | ya |
| 05:35.05 | TheRageKage | yeah i guess that would work |
| 05:35.19 | phoenix7700 | i believe there is an event for when unit come in range of units |
| 05:35.50 | TheRageKage | i think you're right |
| 05:35.56 | TheRageKage | i wonder how automotan 2000 did it |
| 05:36.06 | phoenix7700 | yea |
| 05:36.16 | phoenix7700 | Unit Enters/Leaves Range Of Unit |
| 05:37.01 | phoenix7700 | besides that |
| 05:37.21 | phoenix7700 | i dunno |
| 05:37.31 | TheRageKage | thanks for all the help btw |
| 05:37.35 | TheRageKage | i appreciate it :D |
| 05:37.42 | Frostwind | :( |
| 05:37.50 | vailreth | XenoX i think the method of renaming and replacing a core object with custom is hit or miss... but there maybe other ways... |
| 05:38.17 | vailreth | do you need the decall to show for all units of a player or a single unit? |
| 05:39.37 | Agouti | you shouldn't need triggers |
| 05:40.16 | Agouti | remember, xenox, that the editor was created primarily for devolping the game by the devs |
| 05:40.21 | Agouti | anything else is a gift |
| 05:40.33 | Agouti | and I would say you are the only person ever to have tried what you are trying |
| 05:41.11 | Frostwind | is very bored due to being unable to work on his project due to a problem with an animation |
| 05:41.15 | Agouti | so your 1 copy of the game wouldn't have paid for much developer time on fixing that, even if you handn't already gotten your money's worth elsewhere ;) |
| 05:43.00 | TheRageKage | aha |
| 05:43.07 | TheRageKage | just found an old map that implemented it |
| 05:43.12 | TheRageKage | fuck yeah plagarism |
| 05:43.14 | TheRageKage | jk |
| 05:43.16 | TheRageKage | gonna see how he did it |
| 05:45.02 | Frostwind | :( |
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| 05:50.57 | vailreth | Vexal_ |
| 05:51.06 | Frostwind | :( |
| 05:57.44 | Frostwind | is very bored due to being unable to work on his project due to a problem with an animation |
| 05:58.51 | Vexal_ | yeah vailreth ? |
| 05:59.28 | vailreth | sorry if im disturbing but i am wondering how you solved the shop issiue |
| 06:00.30 | Vexal_ | well |
| 06:00.33 | Vexal_ | what issue are you having specifically |
| 06:00.53 | Frostwind | is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo bored |
| 06:01.47 | vailreth | well i have been having the " can not spend other player resources " warningt pop up |
| 06:04.15 | Vexal_ | okay |
| 06:04.24 | Vexal_ | i think i used a trigger |
| 06:04.53 | Vexal_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:05.02 | Vexal_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:05.12 | Vexal_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:05.19 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 06:05.22 | Vexal_ | 0 is neutral |
| 06:06.31 | vailreth | ah. well if you go back to it there is a simpler way... you can just tick on the share control flag and when the interact ability gives you control of the structure it will use your resources when buying things. |
| 06:06.49 | Vexal_ | what |
| 06:07.02 | Vexal_ | i don't think that way is simpler |
| 06:07.25 | vailreth | i feel its simpler... |
| 06:07.33 | Vexal_ | your way involves a workaround |
| 06:07.37 | vailreth | no |
| 06:07.38 | Vexal_ | my way involves doing it correctly |
| 06:07.41 | vailreth | no |
| 06:08.04 | vailreth | you way is triggers .. mine is data |
| 06:08.17 | vailreth | and its just a simple flag on the shop unit.. |
| 06:08.27 | vailreth | how is it a work around? unlike yours? |
| 06:09.49 | Vexal_ | oh |
| 06:09.54 | Vexal_ | i thought you said "trick" not tick |
| 06:09.59 | vailreth | ah |
| 06:10.16 | Vexal_ | if you knew how to do it already |
| 06:10.17 | Vexal_ | why'd you ask me |
| 06:10.33 | vailreth | to double check my method .. |
| 06:10.38 | Vexal_ | well |
| 06:10.42 | Vexal_ | are you suitably double-checked now? |
| 06:10.48 | vailreth | sorry if i miss represented |
| 06:10.51 | vailreth | yeah. |
| 06:11.02 | vailreth | and ionly found the method recently anyway |
| 06:11.50 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 06:12.08 | vailreth | any way sorry if threw you off or something. |
| 06:12.15 | Vexal_ | what |
| 06:12.17 | vailreth | but thanks for explaining your method. |
| 06:12.18 | Vexal_ | i was being sarcastic |
| 06:12.27 | Vexal_ | i'm not emotionally attached |
| 06:12.29 | Vexal_ | to my method |
| 06:12.33 | Vexal_ | i just did what worked |
| 06:12.47 | vailreth | im tired and there was no [/sarcasam] tag >..> |
| 06:13.01 | Vexal_ | sarcasm tags are cheating |
| 06:13.08 | Vexal_ | it's more fun if the person has to constantly double-check |
| 06:13.18 | vailreth | yes that is true |
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| 06:14.06 | vailreth | i hope this find simplifies shop making for mappers .. i think i may go add it to the wiki or something |
| 06:14.17 | Vexal_ | wait |
| 06:14.20 | Vexal_ | i have share control ticked |
| 06:14.24 | Vexal_ | and it didn't seem to do anything |
| 06:14.29 | Vexal_ | or maybe it did something and my trigger didn't do anything |
| 06:14.47 | vailreth | do you have an interact ability that grants control to a nearby unit |
| 06:14.58 | vailreth | the two work together |
| 06:15.07 | Vexal_ | yes |
| 06:15.11 | Vexal_ | i use the interact ability |
| 06:16.39 | vailreth | and with out the trigger the shop wont work? |
| 06:18.31 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 06:21.25 | Vexal_ | i forgot |
| 06:25.00 | vailreth | hm |
| 06:35.08 | Frostwind | yawns |
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| 06:38.21 | Frostwind | yawns |
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| 06:49.08 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
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| 06:49.57 | Currydevil | my shops work just fine with the interact and share control. |
| 06:50.01 | Currydevil | bit late but meh |
| 06:50.04 | Currydevil | =D |
| 06:50.34 | Currydevil | like i said earlier too, i also have a trigger for making your unit auto grab items that spawn on the ground instead of going into your inventory |
| 06:57.48 | Frostwind | is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo BORED. |
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| 07:19.55 | Frostwind | :( |
| 07:19.56 | Vexal | need a more sophisticated word for ninja or assassin |
| 07:20.27 | Vexal | hurry. |
| 07:22.53 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 07:27.42 | phoenix7700 | uhhh |
| 07:27.53 | phoenix7700 | there isn't any!? |
| 07:28.29 | phoenix7700 | uhh |
| 07:28.33 | phoenix7700 | liquidator |
| 07:28.38 | phoenix7700 | eliminator |
| 07:28.40 | phoenix7700 | enforcer |
| 07:28.43 | phoenix7700 | executioner |
| 07:28.48 | phoenix7700 | hit man |
| 07:28.52 | phoenix7700 | slayer |
| 07:29.19 | phoenix7700 | contract killer |
| 07:29.24 | phoenix7700 | i think thats the best one |
| 07:29.44 | phoenix7700 | professional killer |
| 07:29.46 | phoenix7700 | kinda lame |
| 07:29.59 | phoenix7700 | exterminator |
| 07:30.23 | Currydevil | annihilator |
| 07:30.28 | phoenix7700 | did that help? |
| 07:30.36 | Currydevil | but not quite the real meaning of ninja |
| 07:30.43 | phoenix7700 | yeah |
| 07:30.49 | phoenix7700 | those are more like for assassin |
| 07:30.52 | phoenix7700 | not ninja |
| 07:31.02 | phoenix7700 | for ninja uhh maybe |
| 07:31.02 | Currydevil | but he did say assassin =O |
| 07:31.20 | Currydevil | Lol, thesaurs has nothing for ninja |
| 07:31.21 | phoenix7700 | silent slayer |
| 07:31.29 | Currydevil | comes up with ninny |
| 07:31.29 | phoenix7700 | yep |
| 07:31.33 | phoenix7700 | already looked it up |
| 07:31.46 | phoenix7700 | so i have a problem |
| 07:32.02 | phoenix7700 | im trying to link the charges for two abilites |
| 07:32.12 | phoenix7700 | so if one is used it uses them both |
| 07:32.58 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 07:33.35 | Currydevil | might have to trigger it. Maybe. let me look at something rq |
| 07:34.55 | Currydevil | Ok, so Agouti and I learned the other day that if you use a modify unit effect |
| 07:35.37 | Currydevil | and set the "Usage Cooldown Time" in the cost field and select a specific ability in the list, you could force an ability to go on CD for however long you want |
| 07:35.49 | phoenix7700 | ahh |
| 07:35.51 | Currydevil | there is also a "Usage Charge Count" field above the cooldown one |
| 07:35.54 | phoenix7700 | so for each ability |
| 07:35.56 | phoenix7700 | i have to have a set |
| 07:36.05 | Currydevil | I am thinking, that if you specifically pick the other ability, and set the charge count to 1 |
| 07:36.08 | Currydevil | yes |
| 07:36.20 | phoenix7700 | meh |
| 07:36.20 | Currydevil | ability a moves + targets ability b and uses a charge |
| 07:36.25 | phoenix7700 | thats kind of annoying |
| 07:36.37 | Currydevil | only way you're going to do it in data though. |
| 07:36.52 | phoenix7700 | cus im doing it with building |
| 07:37.01 | phoenix7700 | so there is gonna be like 10 choices |
| 07:37.06 | Currydevil | It's like my summon ability. I have a choice of 3 units to summon, but each one has to have a validator to kill one of the other 2 if they are already spawned |
| 07:37.08 | phoenix7700 | gotta have 10 effect |
| 07:37.25 | phoenix7700 | bawls |
| 07:37.28 | Currydevil | well, if you want to do it >.> otherwise you have to do it in trigger. and i haven't looked at triggers in months |
| 07:37.32 | Currydevil | so i'm not fresh on them. |
| 07:37.37 | phoenix7700 | yeah |
| 07:37.38 | phoenix7700 | i do |
| 07:37.42 | phoenix7700 | just so much work |
| 07:37.48 | Currydevil | it's not really |
| 07:37.51 | phoenix7700 | :,( |
| 07:38.01 | phoenix7700 | YES IT IS |
| 07:38.06 | Currydevil | would take 30 sec to make each set + modify unit effect =P |
| 07:38.11 | phoenix7700 | also |
| 07:38.14 | phoenix7700 | i just found out |
| 07:38.19 | phoenix7700 | my move that helral helped me with |
| 07:38.23 | Currydevil | mhm? |
| 07:38.28 | phoenix7700 | the validator isn't work all the time |
| 07:38.40 | Currydevil | bummer |
| 07:39.09 | phoenix7700 | Location range |
| 07:39.14 | phoenix7700 | less than 6 |
| 07:39.19 | phoenix7700 | pathing enabled |
| 07:39.31 | phoenix7700 | so if you click outside of range 6 |
| 07:39.38 | phoenix7700 | it says out of range |
| 07:39.46 | phoenix7700 | but if you keep spamming |
| 07:39.48 | phoenix7700 | it works |
| 07:39.53 | phoenix7700 | wtf? |
| 07:40.15 | phoenix7700 | or like locations that are unreachable |
| 07:40.20 | Agouti | pheonix |
| 07:40.22 | phoenix7700 | it tries to move to them |
| 07:40.24 | phoenix7700 | sometimes |
| 07:40.26 | Agouti | if you still want |
| 07:40.28 | phoenix7700 | wierd as fuck |
| 07:40.29 | Agouti | to link cooldowns |
| 07:40.34 | phoenix7700 | i do |
| 07:40.36 | Agouti | it's really, really easy |
| 07:40.45 | phoenix7700 | i set the linkers |
| 07:40.49 | phoenix7700 | all to the same thing |
| 07:40.52 | phoenix7700 | but that didn't work |
| 07:40.57 | Agouti | and set location to player |
| 07:41.06 | Agouti | or unit |
| 07:41.14 | Agouti | whichever is appropriate |
| 07:41.20 | phoenix7700 | ahh |
| 07:41.25 | phoenix7700 | it can't be ability |
| 07:41.33 | phoenix7700 | cus then they are seperate? |
| 07:41.39 | Agouti | location is like the scope of a variable |
| 07:41.43 | phoenix7700 | OH |
| 07:41.46 | phoenix7700 | i thought it was like |
| 07:42.01 | phoenix7700 | for the location of where charge n umber showed up |
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| 07:44.12 | phoenix7700 | testing that now |
| 07:44.47 | phoenix7700 | ... |
| 07:44.50 | phoenix7700 | still doesn't work |
| 07:46.01 | phoenix7700 | i'll try it as player |
| 07:46.04 | phoenix7700 | instead of unit |
| 08:21.01 | phoenix7700 | ok |
| 08:21.04 | phoenix7700 | so i got them to link |
| 08:21.47 | Agouti | so far so good? |
| 08:23.16 | phoenix7700 | ya |
| 08:23.17 | phoenix7700 | but |
| 08:23.20 | phoenix7700 | right now |
| 08:23.25 | phoenix7700 | one of the linked abilites |
| 08:23.31 | phoenix7700 | is building a structer |
| 08:23.37 | phoenix7700 | structure |
| 08:23.45 | phoenix7700 | and if you cancel it |
| 08:23.50 | phoenix7700 | it gives you back the charge |
| 08:24.00 | phoenix7700 | how do i make it not do that |
| 08:24.10 | phoenix7700 | like if you build and cancel |
| 08:24.13 | phoenix7700 | too bad you fucked up |
| 08:26.33 | phoenix7700 | ahh |
| 08:26.36 | phoenix7700 | refund fraction |
| 08:26.53 | Currydevil | I don't suppose there is a way to show multiple buff countdowns on a single unit? |
| 08:27.00 | phoenix7700 | was set to -1 |
| 08:27.11 | Currydevil | just going to have to deal with the most current showing first yes? |
| 08:27.17 | phoenix7700 | uhh |
| 08:27.38 | phoenix7700 | it shows more than one for me |
| 08:27.47 | Currydevil | cooldowns. not just the icon |
| 08:27.48 | phoenix7700 | buff at a time |
| 08:27.56 | phoenix7700 | uhh |
| 08:28.04 | phoenix7700 | i've never used a buff with a cooldown |
| 08:28.10 | phoenix7700 | so i dunno what that looks like |
| 08:28.19 | Currydevil | you can set it to show cooldowns. but when i apply 2 buffs with durations, the most current progress bar overrides the first one. |
| 08:28.29 | Currydevil | it's the little progress bar, imagine flaming betty timed life |
| 08:28.43 | Currydevil | that's all it is, just a progress bar showing how much time is left on a buff |
| 08:29.23 | Currydevil | just thought it would be cool to show how long I had left on buffs. Maybe I can make a custom buff bar for my ui |
| 08:29.27 | Currydevil | and put timers on them. |
| 08:30.16 | phoenix7700 | dunno |
| 08:30.42 | phoenix7700 | i can't figure this out |
| 08:30.46 | phoenix7700 | i set the refund fraction to 0 |
| 08:30.52 | phoenix7700 | and it still give it back to me |
| 08:30.55 | phoenix7700 | WTF |
| 08:31.15 | Currydevil | i dunno, since i don't think you are doing it the way i mentioned. I don't know what field/effect you're working on |
| 08:31.49 | phoenix7700 | just using the linkers |
| 08:31.56 | Currydevil | what linkers? |
| 08:31.58 | Currydevil | =X |
| 08:32.26 | phoenix7700 | on the ability under costs |
| 08:32.46 | phoenix7700 | cost - link |
| 08:32.48 | Currydevil | oh so one ability shares the cost of another. that's cool |
| 08:32.54 | phoenix7700 | yeah |
| 08:32.57 | Currydevil | didn't realize you could do that. |
| 08:33.02 | phoenix7700 | but you also have to set location |
| 08:33.05 | phoenix7700 | to unit |
| 08:33.13 | phoenix7700 | so the unit has the cooldown |
| 08:33.18 | phoenix7700 | not the ability |
| 08:33.28 | phoenix7700 | or player |
| 08:33.33 | phoenix7700 | if you want several units |
| 08:33.37 | phoenix7700 | to share the same cooldowns |
| 08:33.42 | Currydevil | and you're on your build ability now trying to set the refund fraction of charge to 0? |
| 08:33.48 | phoenix7700 | yes |
| 08:33.52 | phoenix7700 | and it still refunds it |
| 08:34.04 | phoenix7700 | should it be 1? |
| 08:34.19 | Currydevil | try 1 |
| 08:34.22 | Currydevil | and see what you get |
| 08:34.28 | Currydevil | -1 gave you a refund and 0 did toto eh? |
| 08:34.29 | phoenix7700 | wait |
| 08:34.35 | Currydevil | too* |
| 08:34.40 | phoenix7700 | i think i set the wrong ability refund fraction |
| 08:34.45 | Currydevil | lol |
| 08:34.48 | Currydevil | that might do it ;) |
| 08:35.49 | phoenix7700 | yep |
| 08:35.50 | phoenix7700 | wrong one |
| 08:35.55 | phoenix7700 | bleh |
| 08:36.01 | phoenix7700 | dont know how i did but |
| 08:36.03 | phoenix7700 | whatever |
| 08:36.21 | phoenix7700 | k sweet |
| 08:36.29 | phoenix7700 | now i just need to make the building thing |
| 08:36.34 | Currydevil | hehe |
| 08:36.37 | phoenix7700 | have a range limit |
| 08:36.48 | phoenix7700 | cus right now he runs cross map to build |
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| 08:37.10 | phoenix7700 | which |
| 08:37.13 | phoenix7700 | i dont want |
| 08:37.36 | phoenix7700 | but range for the ability is how far away from the location the unit can be to start building |
| 08:37.50 | phoenix7700 | how do i set distance building is aloud to be placed |
| 08:38.15 | phoenix7700 | hmmm |
| 08:46.20 | Agouti | effect range? |
| 08:47.29 | phoenix7700 | yeah thats what i was thinking |
| 08:47.38 | phoenix7700 | but i don't see where that it |
| 08:48.26 | phoenix7700 | because the build ability doesn't have effects |
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| 08:51.40 | phoenix7700 | fourm search time |
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| 08:53.32 | phoenix7700 | hmm |
| 08:53.37 | phoenix7700 | this says |
| 08:53.52 | phoenix7700 | make an abilty like the raven |
| 08:54.03 | phoenix7700 | effect target with creat unit effect |
| 08:54.30 | phoenix7700 | so ima have to make all new create building effect |
| 08:54.32 | phoenix7700 | GREAT |
| 08:55.18 | Currydevil | oh the sacrifices! |
| 08:55.28 | phoenix7700 | I KNOW RIGHT |
| 08:55.46 | phoenix7700 | already hard enough AS IS |
| 09:08.08 | phoenix7700 | got music now |
| 09:08.09 | phoenix7700 | so |
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| 09:21.35 | phoenix7700 | hmm |
| 09:21.51 | phoenix7700 | how do i make my cursor turn into the building |
| 09:21.55 | phoenix7700 | like when you place it |
| 09:21.59 | phoenix7700 | :O |
| 09:22.13 | phoenix7700 | cus now i have an effect target |
| 09:22.18 | phoenix7700 | with create unit |
| 09:22.36 | phoenix7700 | but when i try to do it, it give me the error cannot find placement |
| 09:22.40 | Currydevil | "Ability - Place Unit" or Placheholder Unit |
| 09:22.58 | Currydevil | placeholder |
| 09:23.09 | phoenix7700 | ahh |
| 09:24.14 | phoenix7700 | cool |
| 09:24.16 | phoenix7700 | that works |
| 09:24.25 | phoenix7700 | but it stil isn't letting me put it down :O |
| 09:24.32 | Currydevil | =O |
| 09:24.41 | phoenix7700 | says i can't find placement |
| 09:24.46 | phoenix7700 | it |
| 09:26.09 | phoenix7700 | heheh |
| 09:26.18 | phoenix7700 | i'll take a look at the raven ablity again |
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| 09:33.06 | phoenix7700 | can't find placement location |
| 09:33.12 | phoenix7700 | .... D: |
| 09:34.42 | phoenix7700 | ahh |
| 09:34.50 | phoenix7700 | it has to have a buld associated with it |
| 09:35.07 | phoenix7700 | but thats just for the cooldown ...!? |
| 09:45.32 | phoenix7700 | ZOMG |
| 09:45.37 | phoenix7700 | i got it to place |
| 09:45.44 | phoenix7700 | but it puts it in the wrong spot |
| 09:47.09 | Currydevil | lol |
| 09:47.15 | phoenix7700 | AHH |
| 09:47.20 | phoenix7700 | i need to put a validator |
| 09:47.32 | phoenix7700 | it tries to place it at max range |
| 09:47.40 | phoenix7700 | when i click outside the range |
| 09:47.44 | phoenix7700 | lol |
| 09:48.29 | phoenix7700 | BUT IT WORKS |
| 09:48.40 | phoenix7700 | only thing is |
| 09:48.44 | phoenix7700 | it doesn't BUILD |
| 09:48.46 | phoenix7700 | it just makes it |
| 09:48.58 | phoenix7700 | i want it to take more than instant time |
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| 09:50.22 | phoenix7700 | lol... it goes to build it, but wont let me place on top of myself |
| 09:50.26 | phoenix7700 | damnit |
| 09:50.37 | Currydevil | lol |
| 09:51.30 | phoenix7700 | almost got it in the right spot... |
| 09:51.44 | phoenix7700 | basically when it goes to place it i have range set at 0, to the marine is in the way |
| 09:51.56 | phoenix7700 | moves building to closest spot thats valid |
| 09:52.43 | phoenix7700 | sweet |
| 09:52.47 | phoenix7700 | got it to build in the right spot |
| 09:53.59 | phoenix7700 | so is there an effect that i can use on this building to make it build like the same as the build function |
| 09:54.07 | phoenix7700 | instead of just create it immediately |
| 09:54.34 | Currydevil | set the build time? not sure |
| 09:55.00 | phoenix7700 | it's an effect target |
| 09:55.20 | phoenix7700 | maybe if I set time use? |
| 09:55.24 | phoenix7700 | or no |
| 09:55.45 | phoenix7700 | thats for cooldown |
| 09:55.47 | phoenix7700 | nvm |
| 09:56.51 | Currydevil | on the building itself. |
| 09:58.04 | phoenix7700 | the build time isn't on the building |
| 09:58.10 | Currydevil | just noticed. |
| 09:58.11 | phoenix7700 | its on the ability |
| 10:01.04 | phoenix7700 | maybe i can spawn the building still underconstruction? |
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| 10:02.09 | phoenix7700 | or i could apply a behavior~!? |
| 10:04.05 | phoenix7700 | THERE IS A FLAG |
| 10:04.07 | phoenix7700 | WEWT |
| 10:04.34 | phoenix7700 | wait |
| 10:04.39 | phoenix7700 | just gotta find it... |
| 10:08.51 | Currydevil | hmm, i got to figure out how to connect this beam to my caster. the ability is telling me i can't use ScopeCaster for my site ops since there is apparently no trace back to my caster =X |
| 10:10.04 | phoenix7700 | i think agadgad was doig some shit with beams |
| 10:10.09 | phoenix7700 | but i don't know |
| 10:10.12 | phoenix7700 | doing |
| 10:10.26 | Currydevil | oh i know how to do beams, just trying to connect them xD |
| 10:10.37 | Currydevil | it's a different approach for this ability |
| 10:10.44 | Currydevil | the beam is there, but i have to make the connection. |
| 10:11.06 | phoenix7700 | ah |
| 10:11.50 | phoenix7700 | hmm |
| 10:12.23 | phoenix7700 | maybe if i use an issue order |
| 10:12.30 | phoenix7700 | and have it do a Build |
| 10:12.32 | phoenix7700 | ! |
| 10:12.44 | phoenix7700 | that should work huh |
| 10:13.49 | Currydevil | i dunno lol |
| 10:14.04 | phoenix7700 | it'll work man |
| 10:14.06 | phoenix7700 | i know it |
| 10:15.58 | Currydevil | yay! |
| 10:16.01 | Currydevil | working. |
| 10:16.08 | Currydevil | now i have to figure out the damage. |
| 10:16.16 | phoenix7700 | easy mode |
| 10:16.17 | Currydevil | it wasn't affecting the enemy |
| 10:16.20 | Currydevil | last time. |
| 10:16.31 | phoenix7700 | BUT IT LOOKS AWESOME |
| 10:16.34 | phoenix7700 | thats what matters |
| 10:16.39 | Currydevil | lol |
| 10:17.04 | Currydevil | as the zerglings continue to mass and eat your body, your beam still fires! however harmlessly |
| 10:17.19 | phoenix7700 | so you WIN |
| 10:17.27 | phoenix7700 | those zergling are SO LAME |
| 10:18.41 | phoenix7700 | i need to go to sleep |
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| 10:22.26 | phoenix7700 | damnit |
| 10:22.30 | phoenix7700 | that isn't working |
| 10:23.19 | phoenix7700 | hmmm |
| 10:23.24 | phoenix7700 | create persistent maybe |
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| 10:29.37 | phoenix7700 | gonna figure it out later |
| 10:29.39 | phoenix7700 | time to sleep |
| 10:34.34 | Currydevil | yay my search area is broken |
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| 10:38.45 | phoenix7700 | if i apply a behavior and set flag to underconstruction |
| 10:38.55 | phoenix7700 | it doesn't make it UNDER CONSTRUCTION |
| 10:39.11 | Currydevil | hmm |
| 10:39.45 | Currydevil | is the ability not set up the same way as an scv would build something? |
| 10:40.04 | phoenix7700 | no |
| 10:40.11 | phoenix7700 | it's like how a raven puts down a turret |
| 10:40.24 | phoenix7700 | it's not a build command |
| 10:40.29 | Currydevil | but turrets are instant build =O |
| 10:40.36 | phoenix7700 | YEP I KNOW |
| 10:40.41 | Currydevil | dunno if you can but a build on it if it's not a build command |
| 10:40.47 | phoenix7700 | right |
| 10:40.56 | phoenix7700 | thats why i was trying to use |
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| 10:40.58 | phoenix7700 | issure order |
| 10:40.58 | phoenix7700 | build |
| 10:41.01 | phoenix7700 | issue |
| 10:42.17 | phoenix7700 | damnit |
| 10:43.02 | Currydevil | wow stupid. the search area effect has seperate max count than in the actual search area. it was set to 0 somehow even with the search area field had -1 =| |
| 10:43.10 | Currydevil | redundancy sucks. |
| 10:48.11 | SBeier | Hi.. Im getting a wierd error.. when I launch my map, it says "Frame [TriggerControlButtonTemplate] does not have a valid width." In the top left corner. Anyone know how to fix that? |
| 10:50.28 | Currydevil | no idea sir. |
| 10:50.38 | SBeier | :( |
| 10:50.50 | Currydevil | However, my inner child would suggest you give it a valid width =X |
| 10:51.06 | Currydevil | Note as I did not mention he was a mature inner child. |
| 10:51.09 | phoenix7700 | lolololololol |
| 10:51.16 | SBeier | Well, it's displayed just fine |
| 10:51.36 | Currydevil | I dunno =X been a while since I touched triggers. |
| 10:53.05 | SBeier | It does it as soon as I call DialogControlCreate(UI.BackgroundDialog, c_triggerControlTypeButton); |
| 10:56.36 | phoenix7700 | change your thing off raw data |
| 10:56.43 | phoenix7700 | so i can make sense of what this is |
| 10:57.14 | SBeier | I'm using galaxy++, so it's not gui |
| 10:58.20 | phoenix7700 | oh |
| 10:58.25 | phoenix7700 | then good luck |
| 10:58.25 | Kueken | xD |
| 10:58.39 | phoenix7700 | you forgot; |
| 10:58.44 | Kueken | beier trying to use his own language ;) |
| 10:58.56 | phoenix7700 | galaxy language is fucking retarded |
| 10:59.08 | SBeier | Ofcourse.. it's the best way for me to find bugs and improvements |
| 10:59.15 | phoenix7700 | meh |
| 10:59.21 | SBeier | why? |
| 10:59.34 | phoenix7700 | everything i've seen about it says that using the language doesn't really help |
| 10:59.44 | phoenix7700 | it just makes it hella harder for you to understand |
| 10:59.44 | Kueken | oh, it helps |
| 11:00.04 | Kueken | it helps people, who are annoyed by clicking through huge lists |
| 11:00.14 | Kueken | and rather write the code themselves |
| 11:00.20 | Kueken | its so much more convenient |
| 11:00.45 | phoenix7700 | i mean it doesn't help decrease processing time |
| 11:00.57 | Kueken | you dont need it, though, if you feel its more complicated and not your thing, dont use it ;) |
| 11:01.10 | Kueken | it does, but insignificantly |
| 11:01.10 | phoenix7700 | or allow you to do anything thats partiularly more usefull you can't with gui |
| 11:01.22 | Kueken | it allows some things, but not much |
| 11:01.26 | phoenix7700 | ya |
| 11:01.42 | phoenix7700 | doesnt allow dynamic arrays |
| 11:01.43 | phoenix7700 | no point |
| 11:01.45 | Kueken | you dont need to learn it for additional features or performance reasons |
| 11:01.57 | phoenix7700 | exactly |
| 11:02.04 | phoenix7700 | so why waste your time? |
| 11:02.12 | SBeier | You can use the data table for dynamic arrays.. |
| 11:02.28 | Kueken | if you consider it wasting time, dont do it ;) |
| 11:02.34 | phoenix7700 | yeah, can you make a dynamic array of units? |
| 11:02.37 | Kueken | I dont consider it wasting time at all |
| 11:02.49 | SBeier | Yes |
| 11:02.56 | Kueken | with data tables or G++, easily |
| 11:03.08 | Kueken | well, you can do that in gui as well |
| 11:03.18 | Kueken | if you use data tables accordingly |
| 11:03.19 | phoenix7700 | ya how |
| 11:03.24 | SBeier | You can, but its a lot quicker in galaxy++ |
| 11:03.33 | Kueken | it sure is ;) |
| 11:04.07 | Kueken | but since he does not care about development, but only features and performance (no offense), it works just as good in gui ;) |
| 11:04.38 | Kueken | so Beier, what exactly is the problem= |
| 11:04.46 | Kueken | you try to create a dialog button |
| 11:04.50 | Kueken | and it just fail? |
| 11:04.51 | Kueken | s |
| 11:05.13 | Kueken | o_0 |
| 11:05.18 | Kueken | did I upset him? xD |
| 11:05.31 | SBeier | I got it fixed by calling libNtve_gf_CreateDialogItemButton instead of DialogControlCreate |
| 11:05.45 | Kueken | ya, but still the native should work |
| 11:05.57 | SBeier | it should.. |
| 11:06.25 | Kueken | you need to set the size specifically with another function, though, maybe you need to do that instantly |
| 11:07.19 | SBeier | I don't know.. It works now, so I won't dwell on it |
| 11:07.36 | Kueken | k |
| 11:07.54 | Kueken | btw |
| 11:08.03 | Kueken | I think I never did that |
| 11:08.18 | Kueken | thanks so much for the Galaxy++ Editor |
| 11:08.22 | Kueken | its an awesome tool |
| 11:08.39 | SBeier | Thanks :) |
| 11:09.34 | SBeier | afk |
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| 11:27.30 | tampa1adam | so u cant change a dialog label's font size? |
| 11:27.41 | tampa1adam | without setting a preset style? |
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| 11:35.58 | Mexa|Tee | hi |
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| 11:47.14 | Hobrow | anyone here that has some experiance with cliff jump abilitys? especialy their actors |
| 11:47.27 | Mephs | hepatitis |
| 11:48.06 | Hobrow | what? |
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| 11:56.32 | ________________ | how to disable scroll wheel zooming in game? |
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| 12:28.11 | mapsterman | sup sons |
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| 12:33.01 | Tempest04 | helloo |
| 12:33.19 | Tempest04 | does anyone know if it is possible to use the mouse scroll wheel as a keybind |
| 12:33.28 | Tempest04 | or a keyboard key press trigger |
| 12:33.31 | Tempest04 | i mean |
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| 12:43.32 | mapsterman | good quesiton tempest |
| 12:49.16 | mapsterman | sup xeno101 |
| 12:49.36 | mapsterman | xenox101* |
| 12:54.18 | mapsterman | is anyone even here? |
| 12:54.19 | mapsterman | o.o |
| 12:59.53 | Mexa|Tee | derpderp |
| 13:04.38 | Hobrow | can anyone explain to me why unit kills are saved as real values? xD |
| 13:05.06 | Kueken | :D |
| 13:05.14 | Kueken | kills: 1.846 |
| 13:05.21 | Hobrow | yeah ... |
| 13:05.44 | Kueken | maybe they planned to count zerglings as .5 kills ^^ |
| 13:05.48 | Hobrow | xD |
| 13:06.07 | Kueken | same for ability charges |
| 13:06.27 | Kueken | you can make a spell use 0.3 charges and have 2.8 charges max |
| 13:07.02 | Kueken | but, well, for kills it makes even less sense |
| 13:07.04 | Hobrow | blizzard ..... |
| 13:07.10 | Hobrow | yeah |
| 13:07.25 | ________________ | anyone know how to disable scroll wheel zooming? |
| 13:07.48 | Kueken | delete the zoom levels in the default camera |
| 13:08.00 | ________________ | not by data D: |
| 13:08.13 | ________________ | i wanna do it via triggers cuz i want it dynamicly disabled |
| 13:08.30 | Kueken | dunno, search for a lock camera distance action? |
| 13:08.36 | Tempest04 | also, with the mouse wheel, is there any way to detect it |
| 13:08.38 | ________________ | tried, doesnt exist |
| 13:08.44 | ________________ | there is not |
| 13:08.50 | ________________ | u cant bind it for an ability |
| 13:09.32 | ________________ | only thing ive seen thats close is lock the entire camera, which isnt what i want lol |
| 13:09.52 | Tempest04 | also do you know if the more keys you add to the triggers events, does it cause more lag, or does adding 1 key check every key, so u might as well add as many keys as u want? |
| 13:10.28 | ________________ | depends, do you mean detecting a whole string... or detecting multiple different keys? |
| 13:10.36 | mapsterman | yoyo supsup hihi |
| 13:10.39 | ________________ | cuz the latter would be more latent |
| 13:10.45 | Tempest04 | key presses |
| 13:10.51 | ________________ | then, more laag |
| 13:10.53 | mapsterman | why is bank size limit so retardedly small? |
| 13:10.58 | ________________ | cuz its new |
| 13:11.06 | ________________ | blizz didnt expect ppl 2 have orgies with it |
| 13:11.18 | Kueken | bank size limit is huge right now, isn't it? |
| 13:11.23 | Kueken | it was patched a while ago |
| 13:11.31 | ________________ | orly? |
| 13:12.54 | Kueken | for the key presses, the gui tooltip suggests, that 1 single key press event generates traffic for all keys |
| 13:13.23 | Kueken | but I dont know if this is confirmed |
| 13:13.29 | ________________ | ya |
| 13:13.33 | Tempest04 | those maps out there with the custom UI that has an ability bar going across the bottom, is that a real ability bar with hotkeys and all, or just a fake, dialog |
| 13:13.37 | ________________ | indiv keys = more laag |
| 13:14.01 | ________________ | wat do u mean 'real ability bar'? |
| 13:14.11 | Kueken | you can modify the command card |
| 13:14.20 | Kueken | to display this way |
| 13:14.24 | ________________ | oh is that wat hes talking about? |
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| 13:14.26 | Kueken | so you can make it non-dialog |
| 13:14.47 | ________________ | so u can push the command card out of that bottom right corner? |
| 13:14.49 | ________________ | and into a line? |
| 13:14.50 | Kueken | check the ui development section on mapster |
| 13:14.53 | Kueken | yes |
| 13:14.59 | ________________ | hmm, didnt know that |
| 13:15.15 | Kueken | involves some xml editing |
| 13:15.19 | Kueken | and importing |
| 13:15.32 | ________________ | oh so itd be changed for ALL command cards |
| 13:15.37 | Kueken | yes |
| 13:15.40 | ________________ | lame |
| 13:15.56 | ________________ | i mean, still nice that its possible tho |
| 13:16.05 | mapsterman | kueken, no its only 4bk rofl |
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| 13:16.27 | Kueken | o_0 |
| 13:16.34 | mapsterman | 4kb* |
| 13:16.36 | mapsterman | :) |
| 13:17.09 | mapsterman | so I got dat 10kb bank |
| 13:17.22 | mapsterman | and shit wont load ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
| 13:17.31 | Kueken | did you preload the bank? |
| 13:17.38 | mapsterman | yea |
| 13:17.41 | mapsterman | why not? |
| 13:18.01 | Kueken | I have banks with 700kb+ |
| 13:18.05 | Kueken | and work nicely |
| 13:18.18 | ________________ | whao |
| 13:18.20 | ________________ | huge |
| 13:18.21 | mapsterman | uh? |
| 13:18.23 | mapsterman | thats impossible |
| 13:18.33 | mapsterman | it will not load banks over 4kb |
| 13:18.44 | Kueken | the dialog designer uses them for example |
| 13:18.44 | mapsterman | i know dat for a fact |
| 13:18.46 | mapsterman | ! |
| 13:18.51 | Kueken | well, thats just singleplayer |
| 13:19.22 | mapsterman | kueken |
| 13:19.33 | mapsterman | it wont give you an error |
| 13:19.40 | mapsterman | but it will just not load all the bank |
| 13:19.48 | mapsterman | you may not be aware of it |
| 13:19.52 | Kueken | for the dialog designer, it seems to ;) |
| 13:19.55 | mapsterman | but your bank isnt loading |
| 13:20.04 | mapsterman | whos dat |
| 13:20.16 | Kueken | thats a map to design dialogs |
| 13:20.32 | Kueken | it uses some quite huge banks to keep track of texture paths |
| 13:20.54 | mapsterman | let me find you some refference |
| 13:21.36 | ________________ | Opinion: Which would you rather use... 1 Global variable + 5 cameras... or 2 Global variables & no cameras... Trigger question ofc |
| 13:22.06 | mapsterman | check this out |
| 13:22.07 | mapsterman | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/10270-sc2bank-limitations/ |
| 13:22.13 | Kueken | I have quite some banks of several maps, which are bigger than 4kb |
| 13:22.24 | mapsterman | check out the lunatic called mehoron claiming to have a 800kb bank |
| 13:22.34 | mapsterman | other people corrected him |
| 13:22.44 | mapsterman | pretty badly |
| 13:22.52 | Kueken | afaik this thread was outdated |
| 13:22.54 | ________________ | that thread is from last year... and anyone have any opinion on my q? o.o |
| 13:23.22 | mapsterman | want another one? |
| 13:23.27 | mapsterman | let me google some more |
| 13:23.31 | Kueken | :) |
| 13:23.34 | mapsterman | I been told by several ppl its 4kb |
| 13:23.46 | mapsterman | i think rodrigo is pretty good with banks |
| 13:23.54 | mapsterman | so I kinda trust him |
| 13:23.57 | mapsterman | see what i mean |
| 13:24.16 | mapsterman | anyways |
| 13:24.20 | mapsterman | if its not the size |
| 13:24.28 | mapsterman | then why isnt my bank loading all |
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| 13:24.31 | mapsterman | i dont see any other reason |
| 13:24.59 | Kueken | so you did preload, and you did it coorectly? |
| 13:25.18 | Kueken | preload must not use variables for players or bank names |
| 13:25.21 | ________________ | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/17806-bank-size-limit/ |
| 13:25.28 | Kueken | they must be all typed out |
| 13:28.14 | mapsterman | so youre telling me |
| 13:28.31 | mapsterman | that the limit isnt in memory but in amount of keys? |
| 13:29.10 | Kueken | I don't know, if the limit is in size or in keys, but as far as I am aware, it is quite huge at the moment. |
| 13:29.38 | Kueken | it used to be tiny, then got patched to a moderate size, then got patched again |
| 13:30.35 | mapsterman | a i see |
| 13:30.37 | mapsterman | brb |
| 13:49.20 | Mexa|Tee | http://laughingsquid.com/bobcat-sitting-on-top-of-40-foot-tall-cactus/ |
| 14:04.34 | Mexa|Tee | fuu |
| 14:04.56 | Mexa|Tee | I got mingw crap when I installed Qt |
| 14:05.22 | Mexa|Tee | Silly SDK at 1.3GB, seriously D: |
| 14:06.23 | XenoX101 | is there any way to get a player's name in a map? |
| 14:07.44 | XenoX101 | nvm found it |
| 14:07.50 | Mexa|Tee | yes, it's text only |
| 14:07.57 | XenoX101 | ya3 |
| 14:08.00 | XenoX101 | but you can convert text to string |
| 14:08.03 | XenoX101 | right? |
| 14:08.06 | Mexa|Tee | no |
| 14:08.13 | XenoX101 | what |
| 14:08.24 | Mexa|Tee | texts are formatted |
| 14:08.29 | Mexa|Tee | kind of readonly, too |
| 14:08.35 | XenoX101 | sigh |
| 14:09.00 | Mexa|Tee | what do you need the names for anyway? |
| 14:09.17 | XenoX101 | player specific triggers |
| 14:09.18 | Mexa|Tee | Displaying them will demand text input, so there it shouldn't be any issues. |
| 14:09.19 | XenoX101 | based on name |
| 14:09.29 | Mexa|Tee | oh? |
| 14:09.43 | XenoX101 | yeah based on the idea of clan-based decals |
| 14:09.46 | XenoX101 | for tourney maps |
| 14:09.57 | XenoX101 | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=246816 |
| 14:10.13 | Mexa|Tee | You could store the players data in a local bank |
| 14:10.26 | Mexa|Tee | If it isn't affecting the gameplay anyway |
| 14:10.44 | XenoX101 | I need to set the decal based on the name though |
| 14:10.55 | Mexa|Tee | hm |
| 14:11.24 | Mexa|Tee | And what will you do with the name? Check if it's a specific player name? |
| 14:11.37 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 14:11.38 | Mexa|Tee | Check with an entire database of names? |
| 14:11.43 | XenoX101 | typ |
| 14:11.46 | XenoX101 | yup* |
| 14:11.54 | mapsterman | JESUS FUCK I WANNA BEAT THAT NORWEGIAN TO DEATH |
| 14:12.04 | Mexa|Tee | hum.. |
| 14:12.10 | XenoX101 | ? |
| 14:12.15 | mapsterman | havnt read the new sons? |
| 14:12.19 | XenoX101 | oh |
| 14:12.19 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 14:12.26 | Mexa|Tee | mapsterman, so he confessed? |
| 14:12.35 | mapsterman | its kinda obvious.... |
| 14:12.42 | Mexa|Tee | I wouldn't know |
| 14:13.10 | Mexa|Tee | One guy doing a bombing operation of a building and also on an island shooting people? |
| 14:13.12 | mapsterman | scumbag killed 80- children |
| 14:13.26 | Mexa|Tee | That many? |
| 14:13.26 | mapsterman | yea the bomb was a decoy |
| 14:13.35 | Mexa|Tee | Ish |
| 14:13.40 | mapsterman | yea he was dressed in policeman |
| 14:13.45 | Mexa|Tee | mm |
| 14:13.46 | mapsterman | lured them to regroup |
| 14:14.02 | Mexa|Tee | I didn't recall it being 80 people being killed on that camp d_d |
| 14:14.21 | mapsterman | yea it keep growing :/ |
| 14:14.28 | Mexa|Tee | :\ |
| 14:14.33 | mapsterman | mayeb its 80 total |
| 14:14.35 | mapsterman | but still |
| 14:14.39 | mapsterman | HUGE MOTHER FUCKER |
| 14:16.36 | XenoX101 | it said 9 originally |
| 14:16.37 | XenoX101 | that it shot to 80 |
| 14:16.40 | XenoX101 | then* |
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| 14:24.45 | mapsterman | look at this son of a bitch http://dissention.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/norway-gunman-w-victims.jpg |
| 14:25.29 | mapsterman | its 84 now, son |
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| 14:30.46 | Xaragoth | His Twitter account had 545 followers. |
| 14:30.46 | Xaragoth | Breivik's alleged profile lists him as single, Christian, and a director of a firm called "Breivik Geofarm". His profile said he attended the Oslo Handelsgymnasium. |
| 14:30.46 | Xaragoth | He also says he is a fan of the games World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2. |
| 14:30.49 | Xaragoth | oh fuck you media |
| 14:30.57 | Xaragoth | don't bring us into the bullshit again |
| 14:31.09 | Xaragoth | some madman kills 84 people and suddenly games come up again? ~~ |
| 14:34.00 | mapsterman | lol |
| 14:34.17 | mapsterman | i heard hes a farmer too |
| 14:34.27 | mapsterman | which is how he got all this fertilizer |
| 14:35.07 | Xaragoth | the placement of the sentence is annoying |
| 14:35.13 | Xaragoth | everything else is listed in multi-sentences |
| 14:35.22 | mapsterman | what |
| 14:35.23 | Xaragoth | and the one about games is placed right in the way, that you have to notice it |
| 14:35.28 | mapsterman | ah |
| 14:35.48 | Xaragoth | it's placed as a single, annoying sentence -,- |
| 14:35.50 | mapsterman | well he doesnt play sc2 |
| 14:35.56 | mapsterman | so we're good |
| 14:36.13 | mapsterman | hes prolly a raging nub at mw2 |
| 14:36.13 | Xaragoth | besides twitter, which is also placed in a single sentence |
| 14:36.18 | Xaragoth | like all the other important stuff. |
| 14:36.28 | Xaragoth | so... |
| 14:36.33 | Xaragoth | twitter is evil, games are evil |
| 14:36.43 | mapsterman | facebook is evil |
| 14:36.43 | Xaragoth | oh wait, this is print media, they lose customers due to those things. |
| 14:36.48 | mapsterman | twitter is tweet |
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| 14:39.53 | mapsterman | anyone tried indrance wars? |
| 14:49.20 | mapsterman | its pretty cool |
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| 15:04.22 | SentryIII | roars. |
| 15:21.02 | ________________ | keuken u here? |
| 15:21.21 | ________________ | damn |
| 15:21.30 | Dustin | so many underscores |
| 15:21.38 | ________________ | :p |
| 15:21.50 | ________________ | Wanted my name to b easily seen |
| 15:22.01 | ________________ | letters dont do that |
| 15:22.26 | Dustin | But it's like |
| 15:22.32 | Dustin | I dont know what to call you |
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| 15:22.43 | ________________ | most people dont |
| 15:22.50 | Dustin | Im gonna call you Susan |
| 15:22.51 | ________________ | or if they do they call me Underscore |
| 15:22.56 | ________________ | lol susan |
| 15:23.05 | Dustin | Cause that's easy to remember |
| 15:23.07 | ________________ | i might not respond cuz i probly wont be looking for that name |
| 15:23.16 | Dustin | Set it up in your highlights |
| 15:23.25 | ________________ | lol |
| 15:23.42 | Dustin | That way we can communicate better :D |
| 15:24.05 | Vailreth | hello folks |
| 15:24.12 | ________________ | Question: Is is possible to have an ability target your attacker? (Through data) |
| 15:24.51 | ________________ | ie. if i have a behavior on a unit.. that unit gets hit by sum1... the behavior makes the unit use a certain effect towards the attacker |
| 15:25.11 | Vailreth | an autocast ability might be able to if you have the right validator in the smart cas validators field and that validator is configured correctly |
| 15:25.29 | Dustin | Yes |
| 15:25.40 | ________________ | so its possible to grab the attacker? even if the unit is already fighting 10 other units? |
| 15:25.41 | Dustin | Just make a buff get applied when someone attacks your unit |
| 15:25.52 | Dustin | Then make the ability only target units that have the buff |
| 15:26.07 | Dustin | Hmm |
| 15:26.20 | Dustin | Actually I think there's a way to do it in data |
| 15:26.26 | Dustin | With source unit shit |
| 15:26.44 | ________________ | How would source get involved o.o its an enemy |
| 15:26.50 | Doubotis | "Outer" |
| 15:26.59 | ________________ | is that wat outer does? |
| 15:27.01 | Dustin | Cause it'd be the triggering unit |
| 15:27.01 | ________________ | enemy? |
| 15:27.06 | Dustin | well |
| 15:27.26 | Doubotis | when i want to do stuff like that i use the trigger editor |
| 15:28.00 | Doubotis | and "Outer" source type is curiously managed |
| 15:28.02 | ________________ | this would b pretty simple w/ triggers but it'd be nice if i could keep this in data |
| 15:28.25 | ________________ | ic... so generally wat is outer used for? |
| 15:28.35 | Doubotis | i cannot talk you this is the good way, but a possible way to try with the "Outer" source |
| 15:29.16 | Doubotis | another unit, not the source, not the caster, not the target |
| 15:29.24 | ________________ | ic ic |
| 15:29.39 | ________________ | mmk ill go mess w/ stuff... c what i come up with |
| 15:29.52 | ________________ | OH 1 more... is it possible to disable mouse wheel zoom? |
| 15:29.57 | ________________ | this i need via triggers, not data |
| 15:30.02 | ________________ | cuz its dynamic |
| 15:30.03 | Vailreth | let us know..... |
| 15:30.11 | Vailreth | how your data goes. |
| 15:30.17 | ________________ | i will : D |
| 15:35.02 | Doubotis | WAIT |
| 15:35.07 | ________________ | ? |
| 15:35.08 | Doubotis | FOUND |
| 15:35.16 | Doubotis | go to Damage Response |
| 15:35.21 | Doubotis | in your Behavior |
| 15:35.29 | Doubotis | search "Location" |
| 15:35.37 | Doubotis | you can set "Defender" or "Attacker" |
| 15:35.49 | ________________ | o i didnt actually think of that |
| 15:35.54 | ________________ | good 1 |
| 15:36.03 | ________________ | exactly what i needed |
| 15:36.32 | Doubotis | i guess with an effect targeting "Caster" and the location "Attacker" it could work :) |
| 15:37.47 | Vailreth | you still may need a validtor to exclude the unit with the behavior from triggering the attacker response when it is attacking |
| 15:38.30 | Doubotis | possible |
| 15:39.00 | Doubotis | but not sure... the "Damage response" will occurs when the unit takes damage, not dealing |
| 15:39.11 | ________________ | hmm hmm curious |
| 15:39.46 | Vailreth | ive used damage respone attacker to make a behavior that give the buffed unit a chance for critical hits ... |
| 15:39.57 | ________________ | i like how theres only tool tips for the obvious things in the data editor >.< |
| 15:40.13 | Vailreth | yeah. |
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| 15:40.29 | Vailreth | be back in a few people time to start some laundry |
| 15:42.34 | ________________ | the "Handled" box in the damage response... if I choose an effect this means it will only respond to that effect yes? |
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| 15:43.28 | Doubotis | the "Handled" box contains an effect that will be launched when the damage response occurs |
| 15:43.51 | ________________ | oh, just kidding... then wat i am looking for is the required effect array |
| 15:47.04 | SBeier | I'm not able to chat when testing my map.. is there a way to fix that? |
| 15:47.23 | ________________ | it should b enabled by default |
| 15:47.26 | ________________ | u disabled it sumwhere |
| 15:47.37 | SBeier | :( |
| 15:50.33 | ________________ | maybe theres a 'disable chat input' action that u used by accident |
| 15:50.37 | ________________ | in tha triggers |
| 15:51.10 | SBeier | I just tried running some map I downloaded from mapster.. same issue |
| 15:51.22 | ________________ | o weird |
| 15:53.25 | SBeier | It's a bit anoying that I have to publish to test my map.. |
| 15:54.51 | ________________ | y do u need to chat 2 test ur map? |
| 15:55.20 | SBeier | For the part Im making right now, yes |
| 15:56.36 | Doubotis | a stupid question but... your hotkey for "Chat" has not been changed recently ? oO |
| 15:56.53 | Doubotis | no "additional options" set in Preferences in the editor ? |
| 15:58.45 | SBeier | hehe.. not a stupid question at all.. I changed the hotkey for some reason -,- must be a while back |
| 15:59.29 | ________________ | lol'd |
| 16:05.06 | SBeier | Im working on a custom chat frame.. kindda like it's done in Mafia.. I thought the way to do it would be to listen for Chat messages, and then insert the text in your own frame, while clearing all subtitle messages.. |
| 16:05.41 | ________________ | u could xml edit the subtitle space offscreen |
| 16:05.43 | SBeier | Am I missing something? The text apears for a little bit before it's being cleared |
| 16:05.58 | ________________ | well, theres a small delay when triggers are run |
| 16:06.01 | SBeier | hm. okay.. thats the sc2layout files? |
| 16:06.08 | ________________ | its something like .064s between each |
| 16:06.12 | ________________ | i may be off by a 0 |
| 16:06.24 | ________________ | ya its in those files |
| 16:06.36 | ________________ | its a UI edit so im sure theres info on it on the forum sumwhere |
| 16:06.47 | SBeier | Yeah, Ill look around for it |
| 16:07.03 | Doubotis | and if not available on the forum open the mpq archive to find xml files :) |
| 16:10.41 | swizzersweet | trololololololol |
| 16:11.12 | Vailreth | the hell? why wont the item i created show up in the stats item drop down menu?? |
| 16:11.57 | ________________ | u set its flag as "item?" |
| 16:14.29 | Vailreth | ah na it was that the item needed an effect |
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| 16:33.34 | Fisker | "Amy Winehouse dies of drugs overdose" |
| 16:33.37 | Fisker | ELL OH ELL |
| 16:33.45 | Fisker | omg wrong channel |
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| 16:37.39 | Dustin | She did? |
| 16:39.08 | Dustin | http://www.whenwillamywinehousedie.com/ |
| 16:41.14 | Vailreth | well at least I know how to make items appear in the inventory automatically now, i think |
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| 16:55.31 | Stewox | hello |
| 17:00.55 | Vailreth | hello |
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| 17:09.49 | Nash|327 | JademusSreg |
| 17:10.01 | Nash|327 | noobs have infested your Photon Cycles thread |
| 17:10.13 | Agouti | kill them |
| 17:10.17 | Agouti | kill them with kittuns |
| 17:10.31 | Agouti | http://i.imgur.com/s2E8Q.jpg |
| 17:10.39 | Agouti | these ones should do the trick |
| 17:10.53 | Nash|327 | omg |
| 17:10.58 | Nash|327 | lucky guy |
| 17:11.08 | Nash|327 | 4 kittun pile-up |
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| 17:29.04 | Frostwind | sighs |
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| 17:29.41 | burne- | anyone know if its possible to change ability range with catalog set? |
| 17:29.47 | burne- | since Im having some problems with it |
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| 17:32.07 | Vailreth | i love my perfectly working data only shop.. |
| 17:33.03 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 17:33.10 | burne- | I love my perferctly workig dialog only shop |
| 17:34.14 | Doubotis | @burne, if you can modify the range with upgrades, you can modify the range with catalogs |
| 17:34.42 | burne- | I figured it out |
| 17:34.48 | burne- | it was range[0] |
| 17:34.50 | burne- | for some reason |
| 17:34.52 | burne- | and not range |
| 17:34.52 | Doubotis | yes :) |
| 17:34.54 | burne- | :/ |
| 17:35.01 | Doubotis | range[0] because first level |
| 17:35.01 | burne- | why is it range[0]? |
| 17:35.06 | burne- | oh |
| 17:35.08 | burne- | -_- |
| 17:35.10 | Doubotis | range[1] because second level |
| 17:35.11 | Doubotis | etc. |
| 17:35.18 | burne- | oh thats coll thx |
| 17:35.22 | Doubotis | check that http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/fields-structure/ |
| 17:35.28 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 17:35.30 | Doubotis | if you want to modify catalogs fields ) |
| 17:38.24 | Agouti | best way to find catalog field values is raw data mode |
| 17:38.56 | JademusSreg | Best way is in xml, second best way (and most convenient for most users) is raw data View. |
| 17:39.46 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 17:39.46 | JademusSreg | Raw data view can be misleading sometimes, like the field prefixes (CUnit_) aren't part of the field name. |
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| 17:40.06 | JademusSreg | And combined fields under the default view options. |
| 17:41.16 | Stewox | Jademus |
| 17:41.28 | Stewox | can you explain me the system you are using for manual XML modding |
| 17:41.55 | Stewox | do you have a complete dump inside one mod/map |
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| 17:42.17 | Stewox | i was looking like to do that when i got serious about it |
| 17:42.23 | JademusSreg | For maps, I extract, use notepad++ and the XML syntax highlight option, and reimport. |
| 17:42.33 | Stewox | reimport into what ? |
| 17:42.34 | JademusSreg | And yes, I have all the relevant files extract from all mpqs. |
| 17:42.40 | JademusSreg | "For maps". |
| 17:42.49 | Stewox | into the BASE files |
| 17:42.52 | Doubotis | a map is a MPQ archive |
| 17:42.57 | JademusSreg | As that is what I do when manually mopdding xml for a map is required. |
| 17:43.21 | Stewox | the gigabyte sized main game files reimport ? |
| 17:43.26 | JademusSreg | I extracted all the base files only so that I may use them for reference. |
| 17:43.34 | Stewox | oh |
| 17:43.35 | JademusSreg | I never modify the base mpqs. |
| 17:43.43 | Nash|327 | all your base files... |
| 17:43.43 | Stewox | then you copy over from the reference ? |
| 17:44.07 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 17:44.18 | Stewox | i was thinking integrating everything into a map and mod file , finally making that what i thought long before |
| 17:44.19 | Frostwind | :( |
| 17:47.29 | Stewox | so what do you think |
| 17:47.45 | Stewox | i did tried once before but not with full data |
| 17:47.52 | Jum-Jum | I was thinking about making a map like Settlers 3 |
| 17:48.00 | Jum-Jum | Anybody played that good ol' game? |
| 17:48.07 | Stewox | and the editor edits it like it's a dependency for it self, it doesn't save only changes |
| 17:48.52 | JademusSreg | I think so long as you're not concerned about publishing limits or obscene load times, you can import as much as you want into a map. Or perhaps that was not the question. |
| 17:49.10 | JademusSreg | Jum, I never played Settlers. |
| 17:49.17 | JademusSreg | Care to pitch the concept to me? |
| 17:49.24 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 17:50.18 | JademusSreg | Frosty, there is a minority of competent modellers in the SC2 community because it is still larval. |
| 17:50.35 | JademusSreg | It will be years before the community is flush with modellers. |
| 17:51.03 | JademusSreg | Go to the modelling section of the forum and post a request. |
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| 17:51.16 | Stewox | concept ? |
| 17:51.21 | Stewox | detailed ? |
| 17:52.29 | Frostwind | I'm so bored since I can't work on my project |
| 17:54.30 | Currydevil | is frost complaining again? =X |
| 17:54.57 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 17:55.02 | Currydevil | mk |
| 17:55.29 | Stewox | are you replying to me jademus ? |
| 17:55.48 | JademusSreg | I was responding to Jum, and before that, you. |
| 17:55.49 | Nash|327 | JademusSreg replies to whom he pleases! |
| 17:55.54 | Nash|327 | Do not ask. |
| 17:55.55 | Currydevil | lol |
| 17:56.18 | Nash|327 | If you cannot understand, you are not worth to bask in his presence. |
| 17:56.34 | Stewox | okay so the concept |
| 17:56.43 | JademusSreg | I have not played Settlers, and wanted to hear his map pitch. |
| 17:56.49 | Stewox | is to take all the libraries to the map and a mod |
| 17:56.57 | Stewox | separately for who wants to do what |
| 17:57.23 | Stewox | and i hope it won't be too large file |
| 17:57.27 | Stewox | hmm ... |
| 17:57.34 | Stewox | fingers crossed |
| 17:57.47 | Stewox | editing would work like it's now |
| 17:57.58 | Stewox | just you won't need the reference because you already have it there |
| 17:58.02 | Currydevil | but, what type of game is it? |
| 17:58.06 | Currydevil | how does settlers play? |
| 17:58.48 | Stewox | and this will enable editing for those parameters that editor doesn't use for example mistakes, errors , bugs and what they may forgot didn't made into the UI of editor |
| 17:59.23 | Stewox | the problem is , updates |
| 17:59.34 | Stewox | need to get extracts for every new update |
| 17:59.48 | Stewox | keeping fresh backups |
| 17:59.52 | Stewox | from every patch |
| 18:00.02 | Stewox | and seeing what has changed in new patch |
| 18:00.53 | Stewox | i have found and extracted and analyzed some of the files that are used to build the actual patch-archive MPQ , and disovered there is TONS of undocumented changes apparently |
| 18:01.23 | swizzersweet | audio engine A5 = win |
| 18:01.50 | Stewox | the-patch archive file is not the actual patch update , it's a pack of all patches, all those lower numbers from the highest BASEXXXX folder are patch packs needed for older-saves/replays |
| 18:02.38 | Stewox | when the patcher is actively downloading it creates a temporary folder in the root of SC2 install , there are some files without extension that are actually MPQs |
| 18:03.02 | Stewox | those files get deleted when the patcher is done |
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| 18:04.22 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 18:05.11 | JademusSreg | So what is the subject of the question of viablity? |
| 18:05.58 | JademusSreg | Pretend this is Jeopardy, and the answer must be in the form of a question. |
| 18:06.00 | Stewox | viability ? |
| 18:06.21 | Stewox | who's jeopardy ? |
| 18:06.34 | Stewox | jeopardy lol |
| 18:06.42 | Stewox | isn't that a show |
| 18:06.55 | JademusSreg | You wanted my input on something, but it is ambiguous in lieu of a direct question. |
| 18:07.25 | Nash|327 | Don't use such big words with Stewox. ;G |
| 18:07.27 | Stewox | dunno what has that to do with this anyways , im not sure how im going to add libs, galaxy and other stuff |
| 18:08.01 | Stewox | lieu ... need to translate what that means |
| 18:08.12 | Nash|327 | QED |
| 18:09.04 | Stewox | either means to lie , or to "lie down into bed" |
| 18:09.19 | Stewox | don't really know which one ... |
| 18:09.20 | Nash|327 | haha |
| 18:10.30 | burne- | need coupole more updates then i would be ready for testing again :/( |
| 18:10.36 | Stewox | so what now |
| 18:10.50 | Stewox | do you think it woudln't work or what ? |
| 18:11.05 | burne- | what |
| 18:12.00 | Stewox | well i extracted everything |
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| 18:12.08 | Stewox | but i suppose we don't need libs at all |
| 18:12.21 | Stewox | only the incomplete files |
| 18:12.27 | Stewox | such as XML and galaxy |
| 18:12.29 | JademusSreg | Do I think importing extracts into a map or mod would work? Yes, and it woudn't even be to bad on space. It's the art assets that would kill ya. |
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| 18:13.02 | Stewox | it's the changes that the editor writes when making maps/mods based on dependency , there's just a few lines of XML code in those files |
| 18:13.14 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 18:13.30 | Stewox | well im not talking about assets |
| 18:13.41 | Stewox | talking about this , (but surely updated first) |
| 18:14.18 | Stewox | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/full-data-extract-sorted-and-pre/ |
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| 18:15.31 | Stewox | with the blizzard-nature of patching it's ... the only problem |
| 18:16.12 | Nash|327 | I want huggable kittuns of hugging kittunness |
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| 18:16.46 | Wiz10011 | Hello. |
| 18:17.02 | Nash|327 | wizface |
| 18:17.26 | Stewox | The point is jademus , i never hard assets in mind :) |
| 18:17.29 | Wiz10011 | Nash|Kittunbag! |
| 18:17.29 | Frostwind | I'm so bored since I can't work on my project |
| 18:17.31 | Stewox | had |
| 18:17.33 | Stewox | not hard |
| 18:17.50 | Nash|327 | kittunbags |
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| 18:18.28 | JademusSreg | What would the primary function of this Hypothetical Mod be? |
| 18:18.44 | Stewox | manual modding |
| 18:18.49 | Stewox | like it's always been |
| 18:18.56 | Stewox | freaking organized |
| 18:19.11 | JademusSreg | And what data would it contain? |
| 18:19.12 | Stewox | found more fun in older games .... with no editors or tools |
| 18:19.27 | Stewox | data of the game , modfied to what the heck anyone wants |
| 18:19.47 | JademusSreg | It is not viable. |
| 18:19.48 | Stewox | you don't need reference, because you have all there in one file |
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| 18:20.17 | Stewox | the game would ignore those unchanged lines i suppose |
| 18:20.32 | Stewox | and use those from the main game files |
| 18:20.50 | Stewox | but you just have the reference integrated no matter the dependency |
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| 18:21.18 | Stewox | i will make it today , and post results , currently 20:20 PM , rains like crazy |
| 18:21.37 | Stewox | so a good time for my try |
| 18:21.42 | Stewox | hey at least i try :p |
| 18:21.55 | JademusSreg | It will add enormous overhead, increasing load times, as a dependency that already offers everything they can have with other dependencies. It would be redundant, as one would need both the normal dependency and your dependency if they wanted to have the corresponding art assets. |
| 18:22.16 | Stewox | increasing load times > acceptable sacrifice |
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| 18:22.52 | JademusSreg | And it doesn't offer any advantage not already gained by manually modding and importing xml files to the map. |
| 18:22.54 | Stewox | art asset ? |
| 18:23.10 | Stewox | that's a timely procedure |
| 18:23.13 | Frostwind | yawns from the boredom |
| 18:23.15 | Stewox | im trying to speed things up |
| 18:23.53 | Stewox | because you need to keep an eye on 2 things |
| 18:24.03 | Stewox | your files , and the standalone reference extract |
| 18:24.12 | JademusSreg | Mods must be updated seperately from the maps; if anything, this is slower, except in cases where multiple maps are using the same mod. |
| 18:24.26 | Stewox | not talking about the mods or maps now |
| 18:24.46 | Stewox | talking about the file structure , in this case this valids for any MPQ |
| 18:24.50 | Stewox | no matter map or mod |
| 18:25.37 | Stewox | you'll see , but you can ask anything while im working on it , maybe even helping me in the cause |
| 18:26.59 | Stewox | not sure about it totally , let me get it up first , and then we can see if it works with editor too , and if it breaks or overwrites something ... |
| 18:26.59 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
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| 18:30.59 | JademusSreg | Frosty, the modelers here will probably ignore that sort of passive aggressive pleading indefinitely. |
| 18:31.15 | JademusSreg | That's why I suggested posting on the forums in the modeling section. |
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| 18:34.26 | flyingspatula | sigh, still no notable games to play |
| 18:34.29 | flyingspatula | maps* |
| 18:36.15 | UloseTheGame | anyone obn US |
| 18:36.18 | UloseTheGame | anyone on US? |
| 18:36.20 | UloseTheGame | atm |
| 18:36.40 | Currydevil | for? |
| 18:36.47 | Vailreth | any one know how to use set rotation on a site mover actor? |
| 18:37.01 | UloseTheGame | I need a few more for great diplo map Clash of Kings |
| 18:37.23 | UloseTheGame | it's a diplo based on the Song of Ice and Fire series :) |
| 18:37.27 | Currydevil | ah, sorry. i don't play diplo maps. played one a long time ago, it's not my style. |
| 18:37.39 | Currydevil | Not sure vail |
| 18:37.49 | Currydevil | what kind of rotation are you trying to do? |
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| 18:38.56 | Nash|327 | rotamatashunz |
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| 18:41.29 | burne- | anyone up for testing my map on EU? |
| 18:41.58 | Nash|327 | NEVER |
| 18:42.20 | UloseTheGame | Would any of you be interested? it's really fun, people who dont like diplo still generally enjoy it |
| 18:42.26 | burne- | nash go kill yourself, you are only being anoying 99% of the time |
| 18:42.27 | UloseTheGame | it's a hero based diplo |
| 18:42.36 | Nash|327 | Only? |
| 18:42.42 | UloseTheGame | yep, hes not successful enough |
| 18:42.43 | burne- | on what region? |
| 18:42.43 | Nash|327 | Aww, I'll have to do better. |
| 18:43.16 | Currydevil | You can do it Nash |
| 18:43.57 | Stewox | the current patch is 1.3.5 ? |
| 18:44.10 | Nash|327 | burne smells bad |
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| 18:45.02 | Nash|327 | Bag me kittuns! |
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| 18:49.36 | burne- | no nash |
| 18:49.48 | burne- | you have had your head in your ass again so thats what stinks |
| 18:50.09 | Nash|327 | That is not physically possible. |
| 18:50.31 | Nash|327 | You smell. |
| 18:52.44 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 18:53.13 | Nash|327 | Currydevil: you have any pointers how I should be more annoying? |
| 18:53.40 | Wiz10011 | Like you need to be more annoying. |
| 18:54.01 | Nash|327 | Well I don't know what annoys people well enough :G |
| 18:54.23 | Wiz10011 | Oh, Nash, That's a art which you have to learn yourself. |
| 18:54.32 | Stewox | the current patch is 1.3.5 ? |
| 18:54.38 | Wiz10011 | Correct |
| 18:54.45 | Stewox | or 1.3.4 ? |
| 18:54.51 | Nash|327 | Well you're useless :( |
| 18:54.53 | Wiz10011 | 1.3.5....... |
| 18:54.58 | Vailreth | 1.3.5 |
| 18:55.00 | Wiz10011 | So I been told... |
| 18:55.14 | Wiz10011 | Still doesn't mean that it's true though. |
| 18:55.19 | Vailreth | atleast for me it is i do not know about other regions |
| 18:55.28 | Wiz10011 | It's 1.3.5 for NA. |
| 18:55.38 | Stewox | yeah i remember now |
| 18:55.46 | Stewox | it was a smaller patch |
| 18:55.46 | Wiz10011 | He can easily find out if he opens up SC2 and look at the bottom. |
| 18:55.58 | Frostwind | :( |
| 18:56.07 | Stewox | no i was doing something now coundn't open sc2 |
| 18:56.14 | Wiz10011 | I see. |
| 18:56.25 | Nash|327 | Clearly it is, all that "you have to learn for yourself" just means "I don't know, so I'll spout some platitude to seem wise instead" |
| 18:56.46 | Nash|327 | Well I am not fooled! |
| 18:56.49 | Wiz10011 | See nash! you're catching on already! |
| 18:56.58 | Nash|327 | I try. |
| 18:57.29 | Nash|327 | Erm, I mean... |
| 18:57.34 | Wiz10011 | People make their own custom models for SC2 editor right? |
| 18:57.35 | Nash|327 | NO THANKS TO YOU |
| 18:57.56 | Wiz10011 | I dont mean WoW import models. |
| 18:58.37 | Wiz10011 | nevermind. |
| 19:01.03 | Wiz10011 | So Nash you ever import that Cat model from WoW into a map? |
| 19:01.11 | Nash|327 | Making models, right, because every map needs more crappy models made by a dilettante who just learned what 3DS Max is. |
| 19:01.31 | Nash|327 | Kittuns ftw |
| 19:01.39 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 19:01.40 | Nash|327 | MORE KITTUNS |
| 19:01.49 | Wiz10011 | Some people make decent models nash. |
| 19:01.56 | Nash|327 | Riight. |
| 19:02.11 | Nash|327 | Their mom said they're artists. |
| 19:02.28 | Wiz10011 | HEY YOU! LISTEN NOW NOT EVERYONE SUCKS AT 3DS MAX BECAUSE YOU SUCK AT IT! YOU UNDERSTAND BOY! |
| 19:02.49 | Nash|327 | I agree. |
| 19:02.58 | Nash|327 | Their sucking is not related to mine. |
| 19:03.07 | Nash|327 | They learnt to suck all on their own. |
| 19:03.12 | Wiz10011 | good, atleast you understand |
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| 19:04.16 | Nash|327 | If there's something people don't need help with, it's sucking ass. |
| 19:04.26 | Wiz10011 | I disagree. |
| 19:04.32 | Wiz10011 | Some people need help to suck. |
| 19:04.41 | Frostwind | yawns from the boredom |
| 19:05.00 | Wiz10011 | Dude Frostwind, why you always bored? |
| 19:05.28 | Nash|327 | Source: personal experience of gay bars? |
| 19:05.31 | Frostwind | Wiz10011: cuz I can't work on my project due to an animation problem. |
| 19:05.36 | JademusSreg | It is a passive aggressive way of drawing people to attend to his problem. |
| 19:05.36 | Currydevil | you went and opened a can Wiz sir, a d can of worms. |
| 19:06.03 | Wiz10011 | Sorry Frostwind, Don't know anoything about animations. Maybe you should try working on the problem so you aint bored? |
| 19:06.29 | Frostwind | Wiz10011: I've tried and can't fix it without help. sadly no one will help |
| 19:06.31 | Currydevil | Wiz, can of worms. |
| 19:06.52 | Nash|327 | Well, then dinner is served, Currydevil. |
| 19:06.55 | Nash|327 | Enjoy. |
| 19:07.00 | Wiz10011 | I love worms!. Frostwind Have you tried making a post on the forums? that way people can help you even if they arent on the IRC? |
| 19:07.01 | Currydevil | Yummeh |
| 19:07.10 | Currydevil | >.> |
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| 19:07.20 | Currydevil | He won't Wiz, it's a "waste of his time" |
| 19:07.28 | Wiz10011 | Oh really? |
| 19:07.30 | Currydevil | stop while you're behind =P |
| 19:07.39 | Wiz10011 | Interesting. yea think im done. |
| 19:07.43 | Currydevil | lol |
| 19:08.45 | Nash|327 | pewpew |
| 19:09.02 | Frostwind | :( |
| 19:09.17 | Nash|327 | My script that ignores people who speak to that idiot OWNS |
| 19:14.14 | burne- | yay |
| 19:14.17 | burne- | I got my tests |
| 19:14.22 | burne- | It was pretty decent |
| 19:14.31 | Nash|327 | you got your testes? |
| 19:14.37 | Nash|327 | :G~~ |
| 19:15.02 | Nash|327 | they done dropped finally! |
| 19:17.38 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
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| 19:19.16 | Fenix | Anyone is here? |
| 19:19.44 | Nash|327 | NEVER! |
| 19:19.53 | Fenix | haha |
| 19:20.21 | Fenix | I'm looking for some help with triggers, anyone would like to help me? |
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| 19:20.37 | Nash|327 | Pay me in kittuns and I will help. |
| 19:20.48 | Fenix | kittuns? oO |
| 19:20.52 | Nash|327 | Bagged kittuns. |
| 19:21.17 | Fenix | hahaha |
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| 19:21.50 | swizzersweet | To modify player zoom levels, is that under Data > Cameras -> Default ? |
| 19:22.14 | Fenix | Actually, I'm better at sc1 mapping then sc2 |
| 19:22.28 | Nash|327 | SC1 mapping D: |
| 19:22.36 | Fenix | any clue on how to do: Players: Player 1 Condition: Bring - Player 1 brings exactly 0 buildings to 'Left Side'. Action: Defeat. |
| 19:22.37 | Nash|327 | So horrible in retrospect. |
| 19:23.00 | Nash|327 | SC2 is event based. |
| 19:23.26 | Nash|327 | Presumably the building dies? |
| 19:23.28 | Fenix | I've been trying to translate some trigger from sc1 to sc2 but, the way to do them is different |
| 19:23.45 | Fenix | Yeah, could use "Unit die" |
| 19:23.50 | Fenix | but, what conditions |
| 19:24.15 | Fenix | how to make sure it is only on that specific location |
| 19:24.33 | Nash|327 | locations are regions |
| 19:24.37 | Fenix | yeah |
| 19:24.49 | Fenix | i know |
| 19:24.54 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 19:24.55 | Nash|327 | so |
| 19:25.07 | Nash|327 | units in region matching condition |
| 19:25.23 | Nash|327 | gets you a list of units in a region |
| 19:25.43 | Nash|327 | you can then count how many are in it |
| 19:26.15 | Fenix | um... And how to say, if there is 0 building then do actions. ? |
| 19:26.22 | Nash|327 | Presumably check if unit group is empty |
| 19:26.55 | Fenix | it is more simple with sc1 XDD |
| 19:27.03 | Nash|327 | where unit group is any unit for player 1 with Structure flag set in Left Side region |
| 19:27.08 | Stewox | lol |
| 19:27.10 | Stewox | jademus |
| 19:27.14 | Stewox | i got an even better idea |
| 19:27.18 | Stewox | omg this is going to be awesome |
| 19:27.24 | Nash|327 | SC1 was extremely limited D_D |
| 19:27.28 | Stewox | ... but it would need some time to do it |
| 19:27.32 | Stewox | quite some time |
| 19:27.34 | Fenix | I'll try Nash. |
| 19:27.39 | Fenix | yeah i know sc1 is limited |
| 19:27.40 | Fenix | :P |
| 19:27.49 | Nash|327 | With great power comes great complexity! |
| 19:27.55 | Fenix | but even limited, there is so many special map :P |
| 19:28.17 | Currydevil | something like "Player brings at most 0 buildings to loc:abc" -> defeat ? lemme look at trigger events. |
| 19:28.50 | Currydevil | nvm |
| 19:28.57 | Currydevil | check the unit group lol. |
| 19:29.06 | Currydevil | that trigger event i recalled from sc1 =O |
| 19:33.32 | Fenix | Well, idk what to put into the "Value 2 (Unit group)" |
| 19:33.32 | Wiz10011 | Can air units fly over No fly zones if the zone is below the normal flying height? |
| 19:33.36 | Fenix | I got.. |
| 19:33.41 | Nash|327 | A post I wrote a while ago: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/20514-maybe-im-just-impatient-but/#p8 |
| 19:33.57 | Currydevil | no fly, shouldn't be able to fly over it at all. place one and try it out Wiz? |
| 19:34.09 | Nash|327 | Basic triggering mindset. Dunno if that helps. |
| 19:34.10 | Fenix | (Any units in 'Left Side' owned by player 1 matching Excluded: Missile, Dead, Hidden, with at most Any amount) = ...? |
| 19:34.19 | Wiz10011 | Yea I intend to Curry just have to place a bit so they dont go around. |
| 19:34.30 | Nash|327 | Required: Structure |
| 19:34.44 | Currydevil | and at most is 0 |
| 19:34.57 | Nash|327 | no... |
| 19:35.13 | Fenix | ok got the Required structure |
| 19:35.28 | Currydevil | Yes. if you have more than 0 it fails the check. |
| 19:35.31 | Fenix | and is last value = Empty unit group? |
| 19:35.36 | Nash|327 | try that |
| 19:36.01 | Nash|327 | and ignore Currydevil |
| 19:36.06 | Currydevil | At most 0. if you have more than 0 you're not dead yet and don't want to lose. |
| 19:36.12 | Currydevil | =O |
| 19:36.34 | Fenix | you can't enter an at most 0, caus the value is a unit group |
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| 19:36.42 | Currydevil | well fine. |
| 19:36.52 | Currydevil | I can't see which parts are highlighted in the channel >.> |
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| 19:37.39 | Stewox | jademussreg |
| 19:37.47 | Stewox | that "load time" has probably no effect at all |
| 19:38.09 | Stewox | since , even if you load a custom map or not , all the data is going to be loaded that the map doesn't use anyways |
| 19:38.38 | Stewox | ex. the whole dependency is going to get loaded anyways |
| 19:40.34 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 19:41.20 | Wiz10011 | ~8ball Will Frostwind ever get help with his problem? |
| 19:41.20 | purl | Please ask again. |
| 19:41.41 | Wiz10011 | ~8ball Will Frostwind ever get help with his problem? |
| 19:41.41 | purl | Please ask again. |
| 19:41.55 | Wiz10011 | I think that question is beyond the 8ball. |
| 19:44.25 | Fenix | Nash, the trigger dont execute. (Any units in region... matching required structure; exclude... with at most Any amount) = (Empty unit group) |
| 19:44.59 | Fenix | i killed my starting building and nothing happended |
| 19:45.34 | Currydevil | what event is calling the trigger? |
| 19:45.40 | Fenix | Unit die |
| 19:45.55 | Currydevil | did you add the bldg to the unit group ? |
| 19:45.58 | Fenix | generally your last building will die :P |
| 19:46.05 | Fenix | umm? |
| 19:46.08 | Nash|327 | use Unit Group is Empty |
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| 19:46.38 | Currydevil | unit/player groups start out empy |
| 19:47.03 | Currydevil | you have to add the units to them, usually upon creation of the unit. then you can check later to see if the unit group is empty. |
| 19:47.38 | Currydevil | otherwise your defeat trigger will fire successfully when you first turret dies and you still have half a base left because nothing was added to the unit group in the first place =P |
| 19:47.39 | Nash|327 | Ignore Currydevil. |
| 19:48.06 | Nash|327 | Number of units in unit group, then your units in region thingy |
| 19:48.08 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:48.09 | Nash|327 | = 0 |
| 19:48.17 | Currydevil | you still have to set up the unit group =X |
| 19:48.34 | Nash|327 | Though I could've swore I saw unit group is empty somewhere :/ |
| 19:48.34 | Fenix | which one is that xD Units in units group matching condition/for player/ targetable as/ with alliance/within region... xD |
| 19:48.58 | Nash|327 | Do what you did. |
| 19:49.14 | Nash|327 | But put what you did inside a Number of units in Unit Group. |
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| 19:49.35 | Nash|327 | then check if it equals 0 |
| 19:50.00 | Fenix | where do i find the Number of units in unit group? |
| 19:50.29 | Nash|327 | Number of units in ((Any units in 'Left Side' owned by player 1 matching Required: Structure, Excluded: Missile, Dead, Hidden, with at most Any amount)) == 0 |
| 19:50.50 | Fenix | k |
| 19:52.19 | Fenix | ok lets try this. |
| 19:53.57 | Fenix | Yé! |
| 19:54.00 | Fenix | working. |
| 19:54.22 | Nash|327 | See what you can accomplish when you just ignore Currydevil! |
| 19:54.26 | Nash|327 | :D!!! |
| 19:54.27 | Fenix | lolll |
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| 19:55.05 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 19:55.06 | Fenix | ok, lets get farther. My map is like a double 1v1. I got exacly the same map on the left and on the right. |
| 19:55.17 | Fenix | the goal is to kill both computer |
| 19:55.26 | Fenix | and you must not lose on one of the side |
| 19:55.37 | Fenix | it is to pratice multitasking |
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| 19:56.09 | Fenix | it starts like a 2v2. |
| 19:56.21 | Fenix | but the map is seperated in the middle with pathing |
| 19:56.25 | Fenix | and no fly zone |
| 19:56.41 | Fenix | i get the computer control after 10sec |
| 19:56.44 | Currydevil | ah well, i'm just tired. i was missing the fact you were using the "any units" group. |
| 19:56.47 | Currydevil | so excuse me. |
| 19:56.53 | Currydevil | No kittuns for Nash. |
| 19:56.53 | Nash|327 | NEVER |
| 19:57.02 | Fenix | juste enought for him to start mining and build his first worker |
| 19:57.22 | Fenix | but after this, I want to control him without a shared resource |
| 19:57.48 | Fenix | I want like a double mineral/gas/supply UI like in the 1v1 replay |
| 19:57.52 | Fenix | any clue? |
| 19:58.07 | Fenix | one for P1 and one for P2 |
| 19:58.27 | Nash|327 | that can get rather complex |
| 19:58.36 | Fenix | yeah... xD |
| 19:59.10 | Fenix | and it is not with sc1 editor that I will be able to accomplish this xD |
| 19:59.26 | flyingspatula | man NOTD is pretty good quality map im surprised |
| 19:59.41 | Nash|327 | would involve dialogs |
| 20:00.15 | Fenix | with icons and Integer for the both mineral gas supply? |
| 20:00.24 | Nash|327 | Yes. |
| 20:00.26 | Fenix | that refer to player 2 mineral gas supply |
| 20:00.29 | Fenix | ok. |
| 20:00.43 | Fenix | but how can i spend his resource without using mine |
| 20:00.52 | Nash|327 | Though, I don't suggest attempting something like that would first obtaining fundamental understanding of triggers. |
| 20:00.54 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 20:01.03 | Fenix | haha |
| 20:01.06 | Fenix | >.< |
| 20:01.41 | Fenix | I made some real basic maps and I try to get farther. |
| 20:01.47 | SBeier | Would it be possible to make the second player require custom resources rather than minerals and gas |
| 20:01.48 | Fenix | so we have to get some project |
| 20:01.55 | Nash|327 | I suppose you could make the Computer player give you shared control. |
| 20:01.55 | Fenix | and try to get them done |
| 20:01.57 | SBeier | and send those resources to player 1 |
| 20:02.07 | Fenix | this is already done |
| 20:02.12 | Fenix | i got his control. |
| 20:02.22 | Fenix | but he keeps doing things |
| 20:02.34 | Nash|327 | Which should, AFAIK, spend his resources. |
| 20:02.40 | Fenix | so I tryed to turn off the P2 shared control with P2. |
| 20:02.46 | Fenix | so he just do nothing |
| 20:02.55 | Fenix | but rally point and harvesting doesn't work |
| 20:02.58 | Fenix | for some reason |
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| 20:04.29 | Fenix | this place need channel -_- xD |
| 20:06.07 | Nash|327 | I guess don't start an AI for a player if you don't want it to build stuff? |
| 20:06.13 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 20:06.34 | Fenix | yeah that,s what i though. but he wont start by mining and making his first scv |
| 20:06.41 | Fenix | i want* |
| 20:07.17 | Nash|327 | order the player to start mining and build an SCV |
| 20:08.05 | Fenix | is there any AI order to ask this basic start? |
| 20:08.54 | Stewox | jademussreg |
| 20:09.09 | Stewox | they have increased BNET FILE LIMIT TO 20 files AND 100 MB |
| 20:09.49 | Stewox | this will be more than enough |
| 20:10.09 | Stewox | whole of it sits at 52 MB, and this is extracted , not in archive |
| 20:10.17 | Fenix | Nash, if I ask a comp to Gather a mineral, the ability refer to specific SCV or Probe or Drone, can I only put one or I need the 3 to make sure w/e the race the comp will mine? |
| 20:10.20 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 20:10.45 | Nash|327 | not sure |
| 20:12.17 | Frostwind | its sad how willing ppl are to NOT ever help those in need |
| 20:13.52 | slightlyrandom | Wouldn't it be more appropriate to blame our inability, rather than our unwillingness ? |
| 20:14.27 | Frostwind | unwillingness is the correct word for this |
| 20:15.08 | Wiz10011 | Okay frostwind who do you know what knows animations in and out but isn't helping you? |
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| 20:15.53 | Wiz10011 | You would of gotten must more help if you posted on the Sc2mapster forums because chances are high more people would see that and willing to help. |
| 20:17.01 | slightlyrandom | In addition, every time I've seen your mention your problems, you've said it was an animation problem, and that people have been unwilling to help. With no additional details on just what the hell you're unable to get to work |
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| 20:17.25 | slightlyrandom | Which, I imagine, makes it to diagnose the problem |
| 20:17.37 | Frostwind | slightlyrandom: I've said my problem many many times |
| 20:17.38 | slightlyrandom | +hard |
| 20:17.47 | slightlyrandom | And good luck to you |
| 20:18.29 | Nash|327 | If you're going to talk to the idiot, please mention his name occasionally so my script can ignore you :P |
| 20:18.29 | slightlyrandom | Well, I'm just stating my own observations here |
| 20:18.46 | slightlyrandom | I've seen you mention you having a problem 5 or 6 times, I think. |
| 20:18.49 | Wiz10011 | I refuse Nash! |
| 20:18.50 | slightlyrandom | I haven't a clue what your actual problem is |
| 20:19.09 | slightlyrandom | But then that's anecdotal evidence |
| 20:19.19 | Currydevil | what's his name? |
| 20:19.26 | slightlyrandom | Windfrost |
| 20:19.32 | Currydevil | bugger lol |
| 20:19.37 | Wiz10011 | Otherway around. |
| 20:19.43 | Wiz10011 | Frostwind, not windfrost |
| 20:19.49 | slightlyrandom | same thing |
| 20:19.52 | Currydevil | yay |
| 20:20.43 | Fenix | I tryed to use a "Pick eatch unit in unit group and do action" the matching condition are de default so it just takes everything, scv, CC, or /we else. And then use AI - Suggests order both 3 gathering option for scv-probe etc. and Train scv, probe... but comp do nothing at start. |
| 20:20.58 | Fenix | the* |
| 20:21.13 | Nash|327 | suggest order? |
| 20:21.26 | Fenix | Issue Ai Order |
| 20:21.38 | Nash|327 | No silly suggestions D: |
| 20:21.47 | Frostwind | :( |
| 20:21.50 | Nash|327 | TELL THOSE LAZY SCVS WHAT TO DO D: |
| 20:22.15 | Nash|327 | Issue ORDER |
| 20:22.20 | Nash|327 | No suggestions :P |
| 20:22.23 | Fenix | um um |
| 20:22.25 | Fenix | >.< |
| 20:23.10 | Fenix | okok ill try >.< XD |
| 20:23.13 | Currydevil | lol |
| 20:23.36 | Wiz10011 | zerg buildings take damage while off of creep, that's a behavior correct? |
| 20:24.07 | Nash|327 | Presumably. |
| 20:24.09 | Fenix | um, i think, but if you unborrow a spine or a spore and move over a place without creep it does nothing. xD |
| 20:24.14 | Currydevil | Yes Wiz |
| 20:24.37 | Currydevil | yes Fenix, but then it's not a "building" |
| 20:24.54 | Currydevil | technically. it's just a giant walking tenticle |
| 20:25.04 | Fenix | lol.. |
| 20:25.06 | Nash|327 | Sounds like hentai porn |
| 20:25.22 | Frostwind | :( |
| 20:25.31 | Currydevil | same with protoss power using, it's a buff on all their units. remove it if you'd like the units to not require a pylon |
| 20:25.42 | Currydevil | or creep |
| 20:26.00 | slightlyrandom | You also have to fix the footprint attribute |
| 20:26.07 | slightlyrandom | To allow them to be built |
| 20:28.18 | Fenix | well, it doesn't work more with issue order |
| 20:28.34 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 20:28.36 | Nash|327 | :/ |
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| 20:29.35 | Fenix | is it supposed to work with the pick eatch unit in unit group that refer to any units owned by P2 marching excluded... with at most anyamount and do (the gather and build actions) |
| 20:30.23 | Nash|327 | orders won't work for the non-builders but shouldn't matter |
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| 20:31.28 | Fenix | in my mind, it will just take every units and "try" to do the actions, the worker wont be able to train, but be able to gather, the starting building will not be able to gather, but will be able to train |
| 20:32.02 | Nash|327 | well, it might be ordered to do something then to do something it can't do |
| 20:32.14 | Nash|327 | and if you use replace existing orders |
| 20:32.23 | Nash|327 | whatever you ordered before is gone |
| 20:32.59 | Fenix | is idle an order? So the starting units will be idle and be already with an order? |
| 20:33.11 | Nash|327 | naw |
| 20:33.35 | Nash|327 | are all your orders "Replace existing orders"? |
| 20:33.44 | Fenix | yes |
| 20:33.51 | Fenix | i might try after? |
| 20:33.53 | Nash|327 | Change to to after existing orders |
| 20:34.06 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 20:34.29 | Fenix | lets try out. |
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| 20:37.05 | Fenix | we are getting closer... he builded a scv but nothing else happended as i could see. But, the first order in my list is to train SCV. the gather action comes in 4th after the train probe and train drone. |
| 20:37.31 | Nash|327 | screenshot your trigger |
| 20:37.45 | Nash|327 | upload to imgur.com |
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| 20:39.10 | JoBoDo | heys ^__^ |
| 20:39.28 | Fenix | http://i.imgur.com/UKtFo.jpg |
| 20:39.59 | Nash|327 | you're telling them to mine themselves |
| 20:40.04 | Nash|327 | no wonder it won't work |
| 20:40.20 | Fenix | oups |
| 20:40.22 | Fenix | XDDD |
| 20:41.06 | JoBoDo | Hey I was wondering would someone be able to give me a hand? I just need to fix my animation for one unit |
| 20:41.44 | JoBoDo | I imported custom model and I can make him start the attack animation, but once he starts it he wont stop lol, even if he |
| 20:41.48 | JoBoDo | he's not attacking* |
| 20:42.17 | Nash|327 | do you have a WeaponStop.*.AttackStop event? |
| 20:42.23 | Nash|327 | or whatever it's called |
| 20:42.38 | JoBoDo | nah thats what i was wondering |
| 20:42.42 | Nash|327 | the opposite of your event that starts attack |
| 20:42.44 | JoBoDo | what events i should use for it etc |
| 20:43.06 | JoBoDo | i was using the Abil.attack.Readystart |
| 20:43.07 | JoBoDo | event |
| 20:43.17 | JoBoDo | probably not the right way to go about it |
| 20:43.18 | Nash|327 | WeaponStart.*.AttackStart |
| 20:43.24 | JoBoDo | ahk, thankyou |
| 20:43.26 | Nash|327 | WeaponStop.*.AttackStop |
| 20:43.32 | JoBoDo | thanks very much =) |
| 20:43.45 | Nash|327 | I think that's what they are called. |
| 20:43.59 | JoBoDo | yeah i see them now |
| 20:44.23 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
| 20:44.55 | JoBoDo | what animation problem do you have? doubt I could help, im just curious |
| 20:45.24 | Currydevil | nooooooooo |
| 20:45.36 | Nash|327 | indeed |
| 20:46.42 | Nash|327 | Don't see why he's not just banned yet. |
| 20:47.45 | Fenix | ok, so again, getting closer. The Zerg computer will not morph a drone. Also, the order to gather works but, they all go on the same mineral, then split, then come back to that mineral before returning their cargo, then they move to that mineral and spread again, then it is fine. |
| 20:47.45 | Frostwind | JoBoDo: if you don't plan to help then there is no point in telling you the problem |
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| 20:48.50 | JoBoDo | well thats a little harsh, there's such things as socialisation in this world |
| 20:49.40 | JoBoDo | + then if I ever got same problem, or ever found a solution for it in the future, I could ask you or let you know |
| 20:49.47 | Frostwind | JoBoDo: I'm not gonna waste the time to tell someone my problem when they aren't even gonna help |
| 20:49.54 | JoBoDo | okay your choice |
| 20:50.26 | Fenix | Nash? |
| 20:50.31 | Nash|327 | wha wha |
| 20:50.44 | Fenix | The Zerg computer will not morph a drone. Also, the order to gather works but, they all go on the same mineral, then split, then come back to that mineral before returning their cargo, then they move to that mineral and spread again, then it is fine. |
| 20:51.00 | Nash|327 | was there a question in there? |
| 20:51.20 | Fenix | why is comp not morphing and why are those worker doing this weird pathing? xD |
| 20:51.56 | Nash|327 | Dunno, I guess larva didn't get selected or something |
| 20:52.26 | Nash|327 | and as for pathing, you ordered them all to mine the same mineral field |
| 20:52.32 | Nash|327 | so that's what they will try to do |
| 20:53.00 | Fenix | yeah i know, the first all on one is fine, they spread, but then instead of returning their cargo they comeback to that mineral |
| 20:53.21 | Frostwind | wishes someone would help him fix his animation problem so he could start working on his project again. |
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| 20:53.59 | Fenix | im sorry frostwind, but I'm not at that level xD I'm confuse just with simple triggers. xD |
| 20:54.21 | Currydevil | he is beyond help from us anyways. |
| 20:54.41 | Fenix | um, idk if the trigger execute faster than the firsts larva spawn at the game start. |
| 20:54.58 | Fenix | adding a fast wait could possibly fix that i think |
| 20:55.48 | Fenix | hahaa |
| 20:55.50 | Fenix | this is it |
| 20:56.00 | Fenix | Nash, thats why Zerg was not morphing |
| 20:56.04 | Fenix | trigger was to fast |
| 20:56.05 | Nash|327 | dude needs professional help |
| 20:56.50 | Nash|327 | ah, and people are getting themselves ignored again ;G |
| 20:56.59 | Fenix | xD |
| 20:57.20 | Fenix | b4 you leave and i just forget, thanx for all your help Nash ^^ |
| 20:57.35 | Wiz10011 | Think Nash ignored you fenix. |
| 20:57.51 | Wiz10011 | for talking to that frost guy. |
| 20:58.10 | Fenix | no matter. he will read. =) |
| 20:58.32 | Currydevil | no, he means nash has a script to /ignore anyone saying fr-sts name |
| 20:58.43 | Wiz10011 | he wont see you typing at all. |
| 20:58.43 | Currydevil | so if you said it, he got you ignored for 5 min |
| 20:58.44 | Currydevil | lol |
| 20:59.03 | Fenix | idc :P |
| 20:59.07 | Fenix | he still helped me |
| 20:59.17 | Currydevil | but he doesnt know you fixed it xD |
| 20:59.33 | JoBoDo | in the events+ I have the event for when i stop attacking, but I dont know what action to use to cancel the animation |
| 20:59.55 | JoBoDo | tried a few dif things but in all of them my guy just keeps attacking the air as i move him around |
| 21:00.30 | Fenix | and there again I got it! There is no matter to the worker race. Just using SCV gather for all those 3 Drone Probe everytyhing. It works. |
| 21:01.05 | Fenix | otherway they will redo the gather action and thats why they was comming back on the same mineral |
| 21:01.36 | Wiz10011 | Hey guys, can I use multiply values for a condition? let it says Player 1 from player group, But I want it from player 1-4 |
| 21:02.01 | Nash|327 | ah |
| 21:02.07 | Fenix | probably. |
| 21:02.09 | Fenix | xD |
| 21:02.36 | Wiz10011 | I would prefer any player, but I cant seem to change player 1 to any since its not showing up. |
| 21:02.45 | Nash|327 | depends what you use to start the animation |
| 21:03.03 | JoBoDo | was using animation play |
| 21:03.11 | Nash|327 | animclear |
| 21:03.16 | Nash|327 | is the opposite |
| 21:03.19 | JoBoDo | yeah that didnt work :( |
| 21:03.21 | JoBoDo | ill try again |
| 21:03.48 | Nash|327 | Need to use the same label as the AnimPlay |
| 21:04.17 | JoBoDo | same label? |
| 21:04.29 | JoBoDo | like |
| 21:04.29 | Nash|327 | AnimPlay Attack Attack |
| 21:04.30 | JoBoDo | the name |
| 21:04.37 | Nash|327 | first Attack is a label |
| 21:04.50 | Nash|327 | the second is the actual animation |
| 21:04.57 | JoBoDo | and that label is the "Name:" parameter? |
| 21:05.17 | Nash|327 | Not sure, editor not open atm |
| 21:05.26 | JoBoDo | okay yeah i did that and it changed to attack attack |
| 21:05.28 | JoBoDo | thankyou :) |
| 21:05.57 | JoBoDo | HUZZAH |
| 21:05.58 | JoBoDo | <3 |
| 21:07.06 | JoBoDo | it works, thanks so much :p |
| 21:07.09 | Twiner | so |
| 21:07.11 | Twiner | any cool new maps |
| 21:07.24 | JoBoDo | mineeee, though its not finished, and barely started |
| 21:07.36 | XorioZ | yay. success. |
| 21:08.04 | Nash|327 | this was a triumph |
| 21:08.20 | Nash|327 | I'm making a note here, HUGE SUCCESS |
| 21:08.41 | Currydevil | what was success? |
| 21:08.56 | Twiner | he finally beat the original portal |
| 21:09.17 | Currydevil | Wiz10011 you can use multiple players in a condition by using an "Or" and then listing the 4 players beneath that |
| 21:09.20 | Currydevil | Oh ok |
| 21:09.49 | Wiz10011 | Thanks currydevil, I think i figured out a way to do it, if it doesn't work I'll try it your way. |
| 21:09.58 | Currydevil | ok |
| 21:11.13 | JoBoDo | when you import models from wowmodelviewer, does it take their sounds with them? or do you have to get them seperately |
| 21:12.09 | Wiz10011 | Don't think it has the sound. I tried some models from the SC2mapster post, it only had the Model and textures. |
| 21:12.24 | JoBoDo | ahk fairo |
| 21:12.39 | JoBoDo | wonder if there's any 'punching' sound in sc2 lol' |
| 21:12.52 | Fenix | does anyone know how to set the worker rally point of the hatchery? |
| 21:13.15 | Fenix | there are only rally point but not the worker rally point. |
| 21:13.36 | Twiner | When does SC2 get G+ support |
| 21:13.50 | JoBoDo | what do you mean rally point but not worker rally point? |
| 21:14.06 | Jum-Jum | JoBoDo: Hatchery has two rally points. |
| 21:14.12 | Fenix | the hatchery have 2 types of rally point, one for the units, one for the worker |
| 21:14.17 | JoBoDo | ahk |
| 21:14.19 | Fenix | i want to set the worker one |
| 21:14.23 | Fenix | not the unit one |
| 21:16.39 | Wiz10011 | It's under hatchery rally. |
| 21:16.54 | Wiz10011 | it has 3 rallies, one include worker, one exclude workers |
| 21:17.52 | Fenix | how do I specify the rally I want through the Issue order? |
| 21:20.33 | Wiz10011 | That i have no idea. |
| 21:21.21 | Fenix | >.< |
| 21:21.29 | Wiz10011 | It has the submenu at the top for rally but nothings in it. |
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| 21:22.44 | Bounty | >< |
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| 21:23.18 | Fenix | I'll try to move the 2nd rally point to the first. So it 'could' set the rally point... but idk if when playing and right clicking it will change the worker one or the normal... |
| 21:24.16 | Fenix | none of them appeared. -_- |
| 21:24.58 | Fenix | caus my trigger is incomplete (suicide myself) |
| 21:25.41 | Nash|327 | make the workers mine themselves again ;G |
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| 21:26.24 | Fenix | no, i want the rally point to be fixed when i get the control |
| 21:28.42 | Fenix | by having the worker rally point in first, it "works" but drone are not going mining and when you right clic away you set the worker one. |
| 21:29.53 | Fenix | ok then. I'm going to try al the rally point. xD |
| 21:32.03 | Fenix | um... rally point are not working also. |
| 21:32.49 | Fenix | i think i know why... |
| 21:34.52 | Fenix | ok so rally point now work. But still i cant set the worker rally point. =/ |
| 21:38.05 | Nash|327 | how evil |
| 21:38.58 | Wiz10011 | How does function Picked player work? |
| 21:41.10 | Nash|327 | it only works inside a Pick player loop |
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| 21:41.26 | UloseTheGame | EVERYONE GO PLAY WITH COK |
| 21:41.38 | Nash|327 | failltroll |
| 21:43.12 | Fenix | lol |
| 21:43.33 | Fenix | i finally got my answer about rally point |
| 21:43.39 | Fenix | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/18890-set-worker-rally-point/ |
| 21:44.20 | Wiz10011 | Nash, you said before that if I used a random interger to pick someone from a player group say between 1 and 4, and there's isnt 4 people in the group it will crash? |
| 21:44.36 | Fenix | oO |
| 21:44.43 | Fenix | interesting lol |
| 21:44.55 | Nash|327 | not crash |
| 21:45.18 | Wiz10011 | something along the line of it not working properly. |
| 21:45.26 | Nash|327 | you will probably get trigger errors |
| 21:47.12 | Wiz10011 | I see. |
| 21:47.57 | Wiz10011 | anything you would recommend to prevent that? |
| 21:48.19 | Nash|327 | randomize from 1 to players in player group |
| 21:49.50 | Wiz10011 | What would you use for the index from player in player group? |
| 21:50.05 | Nash|327 | wha? |
| 21:50.30 | Wiz10011 | When I do Player from player group, it's something like the lines of (Player 1 from Player group) |
| 21:51.08 | Wiz10011 | or did you mean Numbers of player in player group? |
| 21:51.15 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 21:51.16 | Wiz10011 | players* |
| 21:51.24 | Wiz10011 | Oh okay, thank you |
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| 21:56.33 | SBeier | Anyone here know if it's possible to set the scroll value of a list box? |
| 21:56.50 | Nash|327 | maybe someone should make a library with a bunch of functions like Random Player from Player Group |
| 22:00.56 | Stewox | Request: C++ , or C# programmer capable of doing simple Win32 Application |
| 22:03.13 | SBeier | u don't like java? |
| 22:03.31 | JoBoDo | can I increase a units health regeneration via behaviours? |
| 22:03.37 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 22:03.52 | JoBoDo | I was looking for it couldnt seem to find it, do you know what section its in |
| 22:04.05 | Nash|327 | filter for vital |
| 22:04.11 | Currydevil | it's under "behavior - modification" |
| 22:04.23 | JoBoDo | WOW |
| 22:04.25 | JoBoDo | im just blind |
| 22:04.34 | JoBoDo | cause I already changed max health, but cudnt find regeneration lol xD |
| 22:04.41 | JoBoDo | found it now :D |
| 22:04.42 | Stewox | Sbeier |
| 22:04.46 | Stewox | you know ? |
| 22:04.54 | SBeier | know what? |
| 22:04.54 | Nash|327 | the blind mapper D: |
| 22:04.59 | Stewox | C++ |
| 22:05.19 | Stewox | I don't know if java would do this but okay |
| 22:05.24 | JoBoDo | haha nash |
| 22:05.28 | SBeier | Haven't done more c++ than absolutely nessecerry |
| 22:06.00 | SBeier | what do u need? |
| 22:07.18 | Stewox | the program would need to take read upd files , and source files, the source files would be in text and the program would have to detect a certain line inside that file , it will update the file with upd files accordingly , because i have many files merged into one |
| 22:07.27 | Stewox | two or 3 |
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| 22:08.43 | Stewox | so it would take data which is in 3 separate files , and update the contence of 1 file which has lines like <end of file 1 , start of file > to know where the data for what ended |
| 22:09.43 | Syltman | Hey SBeier, saw my post on the thread? |
| 22:09.54 | Stewox | i am still constructing this project so i am unable to give you hard examples |
| 22:10.16 | Stewox | this will be done in some days , but it would be nice if i had that program asap |
| 22:10.39 | Stewox | this is a big thing and it might help community a lot , but it's just a work , it's not that hard at all |
| 22:10.50 | Stewox | i mean ... takes time |
| 22:11.01 | Stewox | a program would cut this time into ... seconds |
| 22:11.19 | SBeier | Im not fimiliar with udp files.. what are those`? |
| 22:11.24 | Stewox | to manually update a lot of files , file by file manually |
| 22:11.28 | Stewox | it's a nickname |
| 22:11.36 | Stewox | it's just 2 different soruces |
| 22:11.48 | Stewox | i called it such to differentiate |
| 22:11.55 | Stewox | it's XML |
| 22:12.01 | SBeier | Okay |
| 22:12.30 | Stewox | basically, it's an updater |
| 22:12.42 | Stewox | i'll tell you later about details |
| 22:12.47 | SBeier | Styltman, didn't see your edit untill now.. I could look into a command line compilation feature.. are u unhappy about something in the editor since your suggesting this? |
| 22:13.01 | Stewox | when i have the actual example we can talk how it'll work |
| 22:13.35 | Stewox | do you need anything . or you can write the engine of the program before you need and specifics what it needs to do ? |
| 22:13.47 | SBeier | Is it just join 3 files into 1 in some order specified in a 4th file? |
| 22:13.56 | Syltman | SBeier, well like I said, I tried getting it to work with linux+mono but it kinda refused to launch |
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| 22:14.24 | SBeier | ah. |
| 22:14.31 | Syltman | and considering how the error was something along the lines of window.generate or something I assume it has something to do with the graphics part |
| 22:14.48 | Stewox | that's too detailed , i still am under work here and i have a lot of things in my head right now ... |
| 22:14.57 | Stewox | maybe there are 4 or 5 |
| 22:15.04 | Stewox | afaik |
| 22:15.14 | Stewox | just take it as , multiple files into one |
| 22:16.15 | Syltman | and I kinda like to use vim |
| 22:16.24 | SBeier | and it's script files? |
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| 22:16.29 | Stewox | the data in each of those files is spread , but it's the SAME THING , AbilityData.XML from LibertyStory , LibertyCampaign , Core , LiberyMulti and Liberty |
| 22:16.36 | Stewox | and the mods use one for everything |
| 22:16.40 | Stewox | so im making merge |
| 22:16.44 | Nash|327 | IT ARE A MEXA |
| 22:16.49 | SBeier | any chance that this is galaxy files that you want to join into one mapscript file? |
| 22:16.52 | Stewox | but let's leave this out , don't ask a lot i still am under work |
| 22:16.58 | Mexa|Tee | My computer had a heart attack after installing Qt, apparantly... |
| 22:17.05 | Stewox | i will explain you all later , or tomorrow , cause it's late here |
| 22:17.30 | Stewox | but i think i got up to something big and ... it'll be impressive |
| 22:17.50 | Mexa|Tee | What are you doing Stewox? |
| 22:18.08 | Stewox | it's experimental mod , can't say anything now |
| 22:18.12 | Nash|327 | Mexa give me kittuns |
| 22:18.16 | Stewox | it's a mod to make mods :p |
| 22:18.20 | Stewox | tool |
| 22:18.29 | SBeier | well, if its just because u want to join multiple script files so that everything is defined on top.. u could use the galaxy++ editor to reorder everything as needed, and put it into your map |
| 22:18.59 | Stewox | no it's XML |
| 22:19.13 | Stewox | havent came to scripts yet , but those aren't SPLIT i guess |
| 22:19.26 | Mexa|Tee | You there, MR Beier!? |
| 22:19.35 | Nash|327 | BEIBER |
| 22:19.37 | SBeier | yes..? |
| 22:19.40 | Mexa|Tee | You're galaxy++, it's written in windows forms, rufgt? |
| 22:19.42 | Mexa|Tee | *right |
| 22:19.46 | Mexa|Tee | *your |
| 22:19.51 | SBeier | yeah |
| 22:20.01 | Mexa|Tee | Did you make any sort of optimization? |
| 22:20.13 | SBeier | optimization to what? |
| 22:20.15 | Mexa|Tee | Or might it be it wasn't required due to it not showing graphics. |
| 22:20.18 | Mexa|Tee | Well |
| 22:20.20 | Nash|327 | Mexa killed the English language, now we must all stop talking D: |
| 22:20.22 | Mexa|Tee | Laggyness |
| 22:20.35 | Mexa|Tee | Forms is a motherfucking devil |
| 22:21.05 | Stewox | this idea can be impacted by updates |
| 22:21.07 | Mexa|Tee | I tried to use it to a toolkit I am developing, but yeah, it sucks |
| 22:21.12 | Mexa|Tee | :| |
| 22:21.27 | Stewox | so i need a program that takes the updated files, reorder them and update to the custom merge |
| 22:21.27 | SBeier | I'm not sure I follow.. are u talking about the text editor? |
| 22:21.32 | Mexa|Tee | yes |
| 22:21.44 | Mexa|Tee | Or rather, how did you implement the forms |
| 22:21.51 | SBeier | I wrote my own text editor |
| 22:21.52 | Mexa|Tee | With the visual studio designer? |
| 22:22.06 | Mexa|Tee | I know that. |
| 22:22.09 | JademusSreg | Hi Mexa. |
| 22:22.12 | Mexa|Tee | But you're using forms. |
| 22:22.16 | Mexa|Tee | Hey Jademus |
| 22:22.23 | SBeier | the "windows" are based on windows forms, yes.. |
| 22:22.24 | Stewox | it's not definitive until we get into details sbeier , not today , too sleepy and also need more work |
| 22:22.31 | Stewox | im just asking if it's possbile |
| 22:22.37 | JademusSreg | I heard report that someone is blocking EU oub games by idling in the lobby. Can you verify this? |
| 22:22.40 | Stewox | for also some kine of UI to be present |
| 22:22.54 | JademusSreg | Pub games of my map, I mean,. |
| 22:22.56 | Mexa|Tee | Jademus, yes, I just recently read it now when I saw the PM |
| 22:23.11 | Mexa|Tee | "im stuck on a problem online there is a dumb kid blocking any play for "photon cycles" (hes host) a player Schnizel has taken to blocking the lobby on eu an hour, then started again as soon as he left the game (since it started automatically when a certain quorum was reached) he is not playing, he is not typing, leaving as soon as the game starts ... or worse giving host and then quiting |
| 22:23.11 | Mexa|Tee | he has been blocking all day, ( at least from 11 to past 3 (i left for work) ) why? i don't know, i don't..." |
| 22:23.30 | Mexa|Tee | Familiar? |
| 22:23.40 | JademusSreg | Basker ismentally deranged, so I cannot be certai of the veracity of his report. |
| 22:23.55 | Nash|327 | hahaha |
| 22:24.10 | Mexa|Tee | lol |
| 22:24.11 | Syltman | JademusSreg lol |
| 22:24.13 | Mexa|Tee | Well |
| 22:24.13 | Nash|327 | I literally lol'ed. |
| 22:24.36 | Mexa|Tee | Possibilities are that it will not be blocked now. |
| 22:24.36 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 22:24.38 | Bounty | trolololol |
| 22:24.40 | Mexa|Tee | *chances |
| 22:24.42 | Mexa|Tee | or whatever |
| 22:24.49 | Mexa|Tee | I could go and look tho |
| 22:25.04 | JademusSreg | I would appreciate this. |
| 22:25.11 | Nash|327 | how does it block the game? |
| 22:25.30 | Mexa|Tee | if he is idling, and people join, it will never start |
| 22:25.35 | Mexa|Tee | and people will then leave |
| 22:25.38 | Nash|327 | still starts when game is full |
| 22:25.47 | JademusSreg | The lobby neither fills nor does he start the game, I was told. |
| 22:25.49 | Mexa|Tee | No, he was leaving as soon as t started |
| 22:25.56 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 22:26.02 | Mexa|Tee | Judging from the PM |
| 22:26.02 | SBeier | stewox, I might need a bit more details - preferably over a less bussy channel |
| 22:26.05 | JademusSreg | See, I can't understand basker. |
| 22:26.18 | Mexa|Tee | Well, uncertain too, but something like that |
| 22:26.23 | JademusSreg | If you've ever seen his posts, you know what I mean. |
| 22:26.35 | Nash|327 | So all it does is delay starting until game is full? |
| 22:26.42 | JademusSreg | Formating indicative of thought disorder, I swear. |
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| 22:26.47 | Mexa|Tee | well, Basker was the one I citated, Jademus. |
| 22:27.03 | Mexa|Tee | If you mean houndofbaskerville |
| 22:27.08 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 22:27.25 | Nash|327 | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/citated |
| 22:27.37 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 22:27.45 | Mexa|Tee | quotated then, or whatever |
| 22:27.57 | Mexa|Tee | Or whatever it is |
| 22:28.03 | Nash|327 | Do I really need to...? |
| 22:28.04 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 22:28.16 | Mexa|Tee | No, you should be shut. |
| 22:28.21 | Nash|327 | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quotated |
| 22:28.26 | Nash|327 | Well I did it! |
| 22:28.36 | Mexa|Tee | QUOTED, OKAY? |
| 22:28.43 | slightlyrandom | cited, or quoted |
| 22:28.46 | Nash|327 | That is acceptable. |
| 22:28.55 | Mexa|Tee | good, but no kittuns for you. |
| 22:28.59 | Nash|327 | D:< |
| 22:29.14 | JademusSreg | In addition to whatever mental disorder may afflict him, he's also one of those fans with entitlement issues. |
| 22:29.16 | Mexa|Tee | Jademus |
| 22:29.23 | Mexa|Tee | Schnitzel is in the game I joined |
| 22:29.26 | Mexa|Tee | Afkderping |
| 22:29.45 | JademusSreg | Attempt to contact him, tell him I'd like to speak with him here. |
| 22:30.03 | flyingspatula | gah, i want a good space battle map :( Star Battle is boring and unoriginal nothing fun about it |
| 22:30.05 | JademusSreg | I gamble that the attention of the creator might draw him out. |
| 22:30.39 | Mexa|Tee | 2 other people joined, I told them he was idling |
| 22:30.43 | Mexa|Tee | they went of hosting their own |
| 22:30.46 | Mexa|Tee | *off |
| 22:30.53 | Nash|327 | OMG IT ARE JADE THE FAMOUS MAP CREATOR WHO WANTS TO TALK TO ME |
| 22:31.01 | Nash|327 | BEST DAY OF MY LIIIIIFE |
| 22:31.10 | Mexa|Tee | Jademus, is he even a user on THW |
| 22:31.21 | flyingspatula | ppl still go to hive? |
| 22:31.26 | JademusSreg | Is that a querstion or an assertion? |
| 22:31.43 | Mexa|Tee | So, instantly when I pmed him, it said "Schnitzel has reconnected." |
| 22:31.49 | Mexa|Tee | *whispered |
| 22:32.05 | flyingspatula | OMGAWD LETS PLAY LIGHTBYCYCLE FOTONCYCLEZES |
| 22:32.24 | JademusSreg | Nash, some people do behave that way. Only in this case I hope to leverage that reaction. |
| 22:32.41 | Nash|327 | Might work. |
| 22:32.43 | Mexa|Tee | Leksa: Yea I know |
| 22:32.43 | Mexa|Tee | You: I don't know if I can stop it |
| 22:32.43 | Mexa|Tee | Eleihar: So we report the doochebag |
| 22:32.43 | Mexa|Tee | Leksa: but he leaves some time |
| 22:32.43 | Mexa|Tee | Lärväx: yeah he has, I've been playing since 8AM |
| 22:33.00 | Mexa|Tee | He have been idling for 16 hours |
| 22:33.07 | Mexa|Tee | Cool kiddo |
| 22:33.35 | JademusSreg | He might have a misguided but good motive, dunno. |
| 22:33.45 | JademusSreg | Might be a competitor. |
| 22:34.09 | Nash|327 | I think it's just an asshat |
| 22:34.22 | Mexa|Tee | The game started |
| 22:34.25 | Mexa|Tee | now. |
| 22:34.30 | Mexa|Tee | So we're playing I guess |
| 22:34.42 | Syltman | Ohh I'll join a round of photon cycles |
| 22:34.52 | Syltman | or is it too late? |
| 22:35.02 | Mexa|Tee | JademusSreg, btw, is there any way you can force colors on the players? |
| 22:35.03 | JademusSreg | Idling in a pub lobby counts toward popularity shit, which is silly. Perhaps it is his misguided way of helpingh. |
| 22:35.16 | JademusSreg | Yeah, pretty sure I can, Mexa. |
| 22:35.17 | Mexa|Tee | Seems all my opponents are yellow |
| 22:35.23 | JademusSreg | Uh oh. |
| 22:35.30 | JademusSreg | Team color view. |
| 22:35.35 | Mexa|Tee | Due to me mistakenly changing the team color settings before. |
| 22:35.41 | JademusSreg | Dunno if that can be toggled in game. |
| 22:35.59 | JademusSreg | Unless someone remembers the hotkey. |
| 22:36.34 | JademusSreg | So did Schnitzel stay in the game or leave? |
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| 22:36.42 | Syltman | is WhiteWidow the host? |
| 22:37.30 | Nash|327 | Let's all go play Photon Cycles ;G |
| 22:37.47 | JademusSreg | Wish I could play on EU. |
| 22:37.52 | JademusSreg | I'd join you. |
| 22:37.59 | flyingspatula | i still hate sc2's map crap... maps past page 2 evne in popular section have no one in it |
| 22:39.34 | Syltman | JademusSreg you need to add some funky music though like the one in the trailer |
| 22:40.16 | Syltman | the games epicness increases quite alot with that song on |
| 22:40.19 | Mexa|Tee | Jademus, he left |
| 22:40.20 | JademusSreg | Success requires the failure of others, such is the nature of competition. It is the fate of the disenfranchised to decry any system weithin which their efforts fail. =D |
| 22:40.43 | Mexa|Tee | He won once apparantly |
| 22:40.50 | JademusSreg | Also, yes, that is planned in the next update. |
| 22:41.02 | JademusSreg | Provided my uploads don't time out. |
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| 22:43.39 | Syltman | also I think I already suggested this but it'd be neat if the map scaled according to the amount of player |
| 22:44.04 | Mexa|Tee | Jademus, I don't get it tho |
| 22:44.24 | Mexa|Tee | He idles in a public game, no popularity |
| 22:44.30 | Mexa|Tee | When do you get popularity? |
| 22:44.38 | Mexa|Tee | When playing I suppose? |
| 22:44.44 | Mexa|Tee | Or has it something to do with the host? |
| 22:44.46 | flyingspatula | Runling Run... why is this map on page 2? |
| 22:44.52 | JademusSreg | Yes, something like that. |
| 22:45.05 | flyingspatula | page 1* |
| 22:45.10 | Mexa|Tee | So, if the host leaves, it stops receiving popularity? |
| 22:45.11 | JademusSreg | Sylt, I have future plans for that. |
| 22:45.20 | JademusSreg | Wouldn't be difficult to do. |
| 22:45.52 | Mexa|Tee | Appears he isn't online anymore. |
| 22:45.57 | Mexa|Tee | hey |
| 22:46.04 | Mexa|Tee | unless he ignored me or so. |
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| 22:50.24 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 22:50.41 | Mexa|Tee | Seems he is well known to be confirmed whatever he is doing |
| 22:51.40 | JademusSreg | Unfortunately, I do not have a button to remote detonate his griefing computer, so people will need to adapt. |
| 22:51.47 | Mexa|Tee | ... so I heard Amy Whinehouse is dead? |
| 22:51.53 | JademusSreg | Who? |
| 22:52.00 | slightlyrandom | I heard John Doe died |
| 22:52.19 | Nash|327 | JademusSreg: I found a bug |
| 22:52.24 | Mexa|Tee | Jademus, a female singer and songwriter |
| 22:52.49 | Mexa|Tee | lots of health problems tho... |
| 22:53.38 | Nash|327 | trying to make me go to rehab, and I say no, no, no |
| 22:53.52 | Nash|327 | JademusSreg: http://i.imgur.com/mzZUN.jpg |
| 22:53.59 | Mexa|Tee | Jademus, when are we going to get the updated photon cycles here? |
| 22:54.09 | Nash|327 | it r bug |
| 22:55.16 | Mexa|Tee | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/393783/1/Schnitzel/ |
| 22:55.24 | ________________ | map popularity = # of times the map is played more thn 5 minutes in the last 12 hours. |
| 22:55.48 | Mexa|Tee | That guy looks like he has violated the toa. |
| 22:56.06 | Jum-Jum | opened editor, made a terrain, gave up after 15 minutes :( |
| 22:56.16 | Jum-Jum | How to reduce attention span... hm |
| 22:56.37 | Jum-Jum | wtf Nash|327 did you just make Tron hahaha |
| 22:56.42 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 22:56.53 | Nash|327 | Mexa did you see this yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1HZp4ClFXY |
| 22:57.45 | JademusSreg | The original design for the game allows players to play after the winners are declared, but my code for it is poor. |
| 22:57.52 | JademusSreg | It will be fixed in the next update. |
| 22:58.02 | Mexa|Tee | lol, nice dub |
| 22:58.33 | JademusSreg | Jum, that's my map, Photon Cycles. |
| 22:59.05 | JademusSreg | Mexa, as soon as I finish making the update. =D |
| 22:59.22 | Mexa|Tee | :v |
| 22:59.24 | JademusSreg | Also, Amy Whinehouse sounds irrelevant to me. |
| 22:59.25 | Mexa|Tee | Hurry |
| 22:59.44 | Nash|327 | WHINEhouse |
| 22:59.46 | Mexa|Tee | Don't mind Amy Winehouse, I was just hearing my mom saying it |
| 22:59.55 | Mexa|Tee | I just said it |
| 23:00.02 | Nash|327 | careface |
| 23:00.15 | Mexa|Tee | The Oslo incident, that it something else to be more troubled over... |
| 23:00.23 | Nash|327 | Maybe should have gone to rehab |
| 23:00.27 | Wiz10011 | The action destrou all dialogs. is that for everyone is only that player? |
| 23:00.41 | Mexa|Tee | for all players |
| 23:00.58 | Mexa|Tee | I suspect |
| 23:01.09 | Mexa|Tee | Dialogs are syncronous |
| 23:01.36 | Mexa|Tee | Or well, those functions not specifying a player or group |
| 23:02.39 | JademusSreg | Dialog and dialog control existence is synchronous. Dialog and dialog control properties are player-instanced. |
| 23:04.51 | Mexa|Tee | Jademus, looking at that Schnitzels profile.. I can suspect he is a douche, and a cheater |
| 23:04.52 | Mexa|Tee | ._. |
| 23:05.28 | Mexa|Tee | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/393783/1/Schnitzel/matches |
| 23:05.36 | Mexa|Tee | oh, and his match history tells his douchyness |
| 23:06.18 | Nash|327 | SC2 is full of failtastic douches and illiterates |
| 23:06.31 | Nash|327 | But that goes for pretty much any game community D_D |
| 23:06.45 | Mexa|Tee | I've seen nicer communities |
| 23:06.52 | Mexa|Tee | But yeah |
| 23:07.02 | Nash|327 | and it has ladder |
| 23:07.21 | Nash|327 | so some people are just self-important ladder whores |
| 23:07.31 | Nash|327 | LOL YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO SPEAK YOU ARE BRONZE |
| 23:07.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster swizzersweet (~swizzersw@24-246-3-165.cable.teksavvy.com) |
| 23:10.02 | Mexa|Tee | .-. |
| 23:12.56 | *** join/#sc2mapster Frost-mobile (~frostwind@64.134.25.249) |
| 23:13.05 | Frost-mobile | hi |
| 23:13.10 | Vailreth | well this sucks... |
| 23:13.19 | Fenix | yo |
| 23:14.06 | Vailreth | you know i am starting to dislike the editor.. |
| 23:14.15 | Fenix | llol |
| 23:14.33 | Fenix | i dont like how it works me too :P |
| 23:14.46 | Fenix | but still, if you want to make maps, you must go throught |
| 23:15.11 | Nash|327 | The community is worse than editor. |
| 23:15.18 | Vailreth | but its stupid to have to duplicate EVERYTHING related to my ability to make a second level with a small tweak |
| 23:15.25 | Fenix | why do you say that Nash? |
| 23:16.24 | Nash|327 | The mapping community is good, but the player base is full of ladder whores, douches and ADD kids who only play page 1 stuff and quit any map that requires more than a minute of waiting in lobby. |
| 23:16.49 | Fenix | =/ |
| 23:17.43 | Nash|327 | oh and if it's not WC3 remake maps or generic simplistic garbage they don't bother |
| 23:17.55 | Vailreth | pretty much |
| 23:24.28 | flyingspatula | i miss wc3 maybe i shoul dplay that instead of sc2 |
| 23:24.32 | *** join/#sc2mapster swizzersweet (swizzerswe@24-246-3-165.cable.teksavvy.com) |
| 23:24.33 | flyingspatula | atleast it was fun |
| 23:26.14 | Fenix | through a dialog label, where can I show the actual mineral of a player? |
| 23:26.25 | Nash|327 | WC3 basic gameplay was more fun. |
| 23:26.29 | Nash|327 | Campaign etc. |
| 23:28.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster Doubotis (~IceChat7@91.180.143.190) |
| 23:30.16 | Nash|327 | installs WC3 |
| 23:31.33 | XorioZ | hmm. anyone thought of making a mod / map for sc2 that implemented a wc3 style gameplay. just normal multiplay but with heroes, shops, and hostile units on the map for xp hunting? |
| 23:32.46 | JoBoDo | that would be cool xorio |
| 23:33.00 | XorioZ | 5 heroes per team that could go up to level 6. a hero alter for each team and so on. |
| 23:33.07 | JoBoDo | yea |
| 23:33.19 | XorioZ | it wouldn't be that hard to implement. |
| 23:33.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tempest04 (4b499882@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.73.152.130) |
| 23:33.57 | XorioZ | i think that could be a nice community project. |
| 23:34.00 | Tempest04 | is it possible to make any fog doodad visible in low graphic settings |
| 23:34.09 | Nash|327 | level 6? |
| 23:34.12 | Bounty | Best map on bnet |
| 23:34.13 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb4Y059BngM |
| 23:34.14 | Nash|327 | 10 kthx |
| 23:34.16 | Bounty | kthxbai |
| 23:34.25 | Bounty | lololol |
| 23:34.41 | flyingspatula | lol @ using teamfortress sounds |
| 23:34.50 | XorioZ | yea isn't that the max level of heroes in wc3. or is it level 8 |
| 23:34.54 | Bounty | better then using UT announcer imo >< |
| 23:34.56 | Nash|327 | 10 |
| 23:35.00 | XorioZ | 10 |
| 23:35.01 | Nash|327 | 10 |
| 23:35.06 | XorioZ | ok 10 |
| 23:35.10 | Nash|327 | 10. |
| 23:35.21 | flyingspatula | i bet that map lags alot :( |
| 23:35.38 | Nash|327 | Don't say that. |
| 23:35.39 | Bounty | Honestly, if thats what you get from watching the video... i feel sorry fer u |
| 23:35.47 | Nash|327 | You will unleash a shitstorm. |
| 23:35.49 | Nash|327 | D: |
| 23:35.50 | Bounty | nah |
| 23:35.53 | Bounty | im done defending it |
| 23:35.58 | Bounty | if thats what ppl honestly get from watching that video |
| 23:36.01 | Bounty | then good for them lol |
| 23:36.02 | XorioZ | we could make it a community project "dependency" that anyone could download and then make terrain for. |
| 23:36.48 | Nash|327 | you do that ;G |
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| 23:37.03 | flyingspatula | lol goliath running around |
| 23:37.04 | Nash|327 | it r a panda |
| 23:37.15 | Bounty | goliaths are one of the vehicles =P |
| 23:37.17 | GePanda | hi |
| 23:37.43 | Nash|327 | pandaface |
| 23:37.52 | XorioZ | oh well just an idea anyways. |
| 23:38.20 | flyingspatula | if its a public beta, id have to play it to not think *its cool but gonna lag alot* |
| 23:38.27 | flyingspatula | if so thatd be pretty awesome |
| 23:38.28 | XorioZ | not gonna start the project unless someone picks up the slack. |
| 23:38.41 | XorioZ | to busy with the TDH project |
| 23:38.49 | Bounty | it is publicb eta |
| 23:38.50 | Bounty | beta* |
| 23:39.10 | Bounty | have only had lag complains from like 2 ppl, but thats out of like 40-50+ |
| 23:39.29 | Nash|327 | gonna play me some WC3 now :G |
| 23:39.29 | flyingspatula | interesting i guess ill try it then |
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| 23:39.46 | XorioZ | what is this smyli again? :G |
| 23:39.49 | flyingspatula | oh ur the guy who made Doodad Hunt lol |
| 23:39.54 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:39.58 | Bounty | yes, i am that guy |
| 23:40.14 | flyingspatula | i was making a similar map at some point then saw urs |
| 23:40.26 | Bounty | feel free to finish it |
| 23:40.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:40.29 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 23:40.48 | Bounty | im not making doodad hunt 2 until one of my maps gets popular =P |
| 23:40.48 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 23:41.01 | Bounty | so u have a looooooooooong time before you have any competition |
| 23:41.32 | flyingspatula | ive built so many 1st and 3rd person engines since the sc2 beta and not once did it not lag horribly with more than 2-3 ppl. ill have to try finding ppl to play egypt |
| 23:42.01 | flyingspatula | lol i dont have time for mapping anymore i jus love prophunt on tf2 and css |
| 23:42.12 | Bounty | with my engine its really based on ur connection and if bnet feels like shitting on u |
| 23:42.23 | Bounty | player count doenst really increase the lag at all |
| 23:42.29 | Bounty | like |
| 23:42.39 | Bounty | there have been times that a 3v3 ran worse then a 4v4 |
| 23:43.26 | Tempest04 | everything is 2d in the map? |
| 23:43.32 | Bounty | yeah |
| 23:43.47 | Bounty | helps with the delay |
| 23:43.49 | Bounty | alot lol |
| 23:44.03 | Tempest04 | and it tracks mouse clicks? |
| 23:44.07 | Bounty | yep |
| 23:44.14 | Bounty | the shooting is more responsive then the movement |
| 23:44.21 | Bounty | but they are both reponsive |
| 23:44.24 | flyingspatula | well playing just by myself it seems to have 1-2 sec delay but i guess i cant really judge lag since i have no one to play with lol |
| 23:44.27 | Bounty | not INSTANT but alot better then it used to be |
| 23:44.32 | Bounty | its not like its a 1 second delay |
| 23:44.33 | Tempest04 | i dont think 2d would help with the delay, but would make it easyer to shoot with a delay |
| 23:44.58 | Tempest04 | isnt much of a dif between 2d and 3d on a map like that |
| 23:45.04 | Bounty | i can proove how responsive it is using the video actually |
| 23:45.11 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yb4Y059BngM |
| 23:45.13 | Bounty | fastforward to... |
| 23:45.23 | Bounty | 1:15 |
| 23:45.39 | Bounty | if i had a 1 second delay, how could i reflect all those projectiles back at that stalker so precisely |
| 23:45.40 | Bounty | =P |
| 23:45.49 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 23:46.21 | Tempest04 | u know what i dont like about making maps |
| 23:46.23 | JoBoDo | wow okay |
| 23:46.29 | JoBoDo | this is going to be a really noob question |
| 23:46.33 | JoBoDo | please brace yourselves |
| 23:46.46 | Tempest04 | i allways make the maps i want to play, but sense i made them, i have to go easy on everyone else i just own everythign |
| 23:46.49 | Fenix | what is the name of the Resource text style? |
| 23:46.52 | JoBoDo | How do I reveal map to all players for whole game? |
| 23:46.58 | Bounty | like i said though flyingspat, its diff for everyone |
| 23:47.02 | flyingspatula | seems about same as mine playing by myself online, id like to see firs thand with more ppl if i could get ppl to join |
| 23:47.13 | Tempest04 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:47.14 | flyingspatula | yeah thats why i kinda just gave up on shooters :( |
| 23:47.15 | Bounty | join channel battlefield |
| 23:47.21 | Bounty | might be ppl in there |
| 23:47.22 | Fenix | JoBoDo, use create revealer =P |
| 23:47.23 | JoBoDo | oh you have to use revealer |
| 23:47.25 | JoBoDo | okay thankyou :p |
| 23:47.29 | Bounty | i know there are a SHIT load of ppl wanting to play lol |
| 23:47.32 | flyingspatula | ah undead jus tkilled me |
| 23:47.36 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:47.41 | flyingspatula | did not see that coming |
| 23:47.43 | Bounty | undead are beast =P |
| 23:47.50 | Fenix | what is the name of the Resource text style? |
| 23:48.02 | flyingspatula | well tbh, i found tha tmaking a shooter that didnt really involve shooting worked ok |
| 23:48.09 | JoBoDo | can i do it for all players or do I just need to do them 1 at a time |
| 23:48.09 | flyingspatula | like a chase/hide n seek |
| 23:48.21 | Bounty | doodad hunt relied heavily on latency |
| 23:48.23 | Bounty | if you were a seeker |
| 23:48.30 | Bounty | and it uses an out dated system |
| 23:48.33 | Fenix | there might be a all player option i think |
| 23:48.35 | Bounty | so it has alot of delay lol |
| 23:48.42 | flyingspatula | oh i guess doodadhunt was that kinda type |
| 23:48.56 | Fenix | what is the name of the Resource text style? anyone know? |
| 23:49.01 | XorioZ | argh. i'm missing a function in th m3 script for 3ds max. that's to say theres a function i would like to have :) |
| 23:49.06 | Bounty | yeah i mean |
| 23:49.08 | Bounty | if i wanted to |
| 23:49.15 | Bounty | i could get the delay down to like |
| 23:49.19 | Bounty | 0.1 seconds |
| 23:49.21 | XorioZ | the capability to copy a sequence. |
| 23:49.25 | Bounty | if i used dummy abilities/hot keys |
| 23:49.37 | Mexa|Tee | amusingly how that sounds, it's impossible |
| 23:49.37 | Bounty | but its kinda iffy with tps |
| 23:49.53 | flyingspatula | ive tried alot of shit like that |
| 23:49.53 | Mexa|Tee | Since you wont get rid of the default latency on battle.net |
| 23:50.03 | Bounty | well no shit |
| 23:50.06 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 23:50.08 | Bounty | but abilities are very responsive |
| 23:50.13 | Bounty | alot more then keypress events |
| 23:50.14 | flyingspatula | yeah that is true |
| 23:50.17 | Bounty | and |
| 23:50.19 | Bounty | from what i've been told |
| 23:50.22 | Bounty | hotkeys are client side |
| 23:50.29 | Bounty | so yes, you COULD get a 0.1 response time |
| 23:50.36 | Mexa|Tee | abilities are asyncronous, yes |
| 23:50.40 | Mexa|Tee | I think |
| 23:50.42 | Bounty | if you used dummy ability with hotkeys |
| 23:50.47 | Mexa|Tee | Then again, it doesn't add up at all |
| 23:50.49 | Bounty | thats what BFE2 used to use |
| 23:50.51 | Bounty | but for some reason |
| 23:50.57 | Bounty | its iffy with tps |
| 23:51.05 | flyingspatula | i managed very little press key time thruogh this, but ull still have to have the delayed keyrelease |
| 23:51.07 | Mexa|Tee | Mephs uses abilities, and his map has pretty much latency |
| 23:51.07 | Bounty | im sure i could fix it though |
| 23:51.24 | Bounty | yeah but his abilities are doing a shit load of thingsl ol |
| 23:51.26 | Mexa|Tee | and clicking is unresponsive too |
| 23:51.27 | Bounty | my abilities |
| 23:51.33 | Bounty | would just fire a trigger then sets a boolean |
| 23:51.38 | Bounty | simple as that |
| 23:51.55 | Bounty | yes flying |
| 23:51.57 | Bounty | that is true |
| 23:51.57 | Mexa|Tee | triggers are syncronous, that's why I don't see the efficiency |
| 23:52.01 | Bounty | i wont deny that lol |
| 23:52.35 | Bounty | but i'd take a not much delayed keypress over a not delayed key release anyday |
| 23:52.45 | flyingspatula | tru lol |
| 23:53.05 | Bounty | ill tell u this |
| 23:53.10 | Bounty | it works great with diablo styled cameras |
| 23:53.15 | Bounty | my Project avatars map used it |
| 23:53.18 | Bounty | worked great |
| 23:53.28 | flyingspatula | i made one of thsoe too |
| 23:53.32 | flyingspatula | it does work rpetty decent |
| 23:53.39 | flyingspatula | evne if u use the mouse move event which is a fuckload of traffic |
| 23:53.51 | Bounty | framerate affects delay to |
| 23:53.55 | Mexa|Tee | Bounty, have you found someone to host on EU yet? |
| 23:53.57 | Bounty | so diablo style cameras are always best |
| 23:54.01 | Bounty | nope, not even looking |
| 23:54.03 | Mexa|Tee | Apart from me, since I am rejecting you :> |
| 23:54.09 | Bounty | EU isnt getting it |
| 23:54.12 | Bounty | simple as that lol |
| 23:54.22 | Bounty | only other person i'd trust is Eiviyn, and i know he wouldnt do it |
| 23:54.29 | Mexa|Tee | Lol |
| 23:54.37 | Mexa|Tee | Let me guess tho, you are blaiming me |
| 23:54.40 | flyingspatula | EU/US should have shared map libraries |
| 23:54.41 | flyingspatula | so dumb not to |
| 23:54.47 | Bounty | ^ |
| 23:54.51 | Bounty | instead we get |
| 23:54.57 | Bounty | i dont even know who US is merged with |
| 23:55.01 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 23:55.01 | Bounty | Alaska? |
| 23:55.03 | flyingspatula | canada |
| 23:55.05 | Bounty | lolol |
| 23:55.05 | flyingspatula | XD |
| 23:55.09 | Mexa|Tee | latin america |
| 23:55.13 | Bounty | yeah |
| 23:55.14 | Mexa|Tee | incase you heard of that |
| 23:55.18 | Bounty | WOOPTY FRIKKIN DOO |
| 23:55.19 | XorioZ | oh. nice. that's how i do it. figured out how to manipulate the bones of a m3 in max properly. did not realize i also could rotate the pivots of the bone joints. |
| 23:55.24 | Bounty | i get to play with a bunch of carlos mencias |
| 23:55.26 | Bounty | lovely |
| 23:55.30 | Mexa|Tee | Who cares |
| 23:55.39 | Mexa|Tee | It's a good start |
| 23:55.44 | Bounty | no way |
| 23:55.48 | Mexa|Tee | yes it is |
| 23:55.49 | flyingspatula | they all pirated sc2 anyway i bet |
| 23:55.52 | Bounty | EU/US should have been first |
| 23:55.57 | Bounty | and i dont think they are doign any more merges |
| 23:55.58 | flyingspatula | every1 in mexico is using the same cd key |
| 23:56.04 | Bounty | i think this is it |
| 23:56.08 | Mexa|Tee | sc2 isn't available to pay over battle.net if it's pirated |
| 23:56.13 | Mexa|Tee | *play |
| 23:56.17 | flyingspatula | lol i was kidding |
| 23:56.36 | Mexa|Tee | Bounty, imagine it being a trial |
| 23:56.38 | Bounty | they are also all using the same station wagon |
| 23:56.41 | Bounty | lolol |
| 23:56.54 | Mexa|Tee | They do it to join the communities together, and to check latency behaviour |
| 23:57.01 | Bounty | idk, i just dont have faith in blizz imo |
| 23:57.08 | Bounty | dont be surprised if this is it |
| 23:57.19 | flyingspatula | so this egypt map are u using the key press events? dont se ehow map couldnt lag hardcore with many players i know it raped any game i attempted |
| 23:57.22 | JoBoDo | lol im happy I got a free NA account |
| 23:57.22 | Mexa|Tee | And I am amazed you spend your time in modding... |
| 23:57.27 | JoBoDo | otherwise I would be screwed for custom maps |
| 23:57.30 | Bounty | yes im using keypress events |
| 23:57.43 | Bounty | that set booleans |
| 23:57.44 | Bounty | thats it |
| 23:57.52 | Bounty | the movement is handled in a seperate loop |
| 23:57.57 | Mexa|Tee | Bounty, I hope you realised I also removed Speedcraft, when I sent the back map to you. |
| 23:58.29 | Bounty | thats fine mexa |
| 23:58.34 | Bounty | no more EU uploads then lol |
| 23:58.40 | Mexa|Tee | lol |
| 23:58.45 | flyingspatula | the problem isnt whats IN the trigger during the key event, its the event itself |
| 23:58.49 | Mexa|Tee | I knew it, you are blaiming me. |
| 23:58.50 | XorioZ | argh. why does editing the bones in my new sequence fuck up the animation of all the other sequences. does anyone know? |
| 23:58.57 | Bounty | im not blaming u |
| 23:58.58 | Bounty | but i mean |
| 23:59.04 | Bounty | how can you not say you are not the reason lol |
| 23:59.05 | Bounty | =P |
| 23:59.17 | Bounty | thats your decision so thats that |
| 23:59.54 | Bounty | bbl, lame ass carnival with teh wife n kids |
| 23:59.55 | Bounty | sigh |
