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| 00:04.26 | Vailreth | Hey Xan |
| 00:04.32 | Xan | hey |
| 00:06.02 | Vailreth | grr if i could just fingure out how to make items go directly into a heros inventory with only data |
| 00:06.15 | Nash|327 | http://i.imgur.com/byVSe.jpg |
| 00:06.19 | Nash|327 | DEFACER |
| 00:06.47 | XorioZ | yo Xan |
| 00:06.50 | XorioZ | take a look |
| 00:06.52 | XorioZ | http://xorioz.users.whitehat.dk/UIsofar.jpg |
| 00:07.18 | Xan | what are the questionmarks for? |
| 00:07.30 | Nash|327 | http://i.imgur.com/byVSe.jpg <- I kill it |
| 00:07.45 | XorioZ | lol |
| 00:07.50 | XorioZ | mega deface |
| 00:08.36 | XorioZ | oh. the small red buttons are small becouse you well only use them to level abilities up. |
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| 00:08.56 | Keyeszx | Why does the editor always crash when I try to find a map online? |
| 00:08.59 | Nash|327 | right, so then it's okay to make them unclickable |
| 00:09.04 | XorioZ | Xan those are just dummy abilities |
| 00:09.07 | Nash|327 | because who needs to level up? |
| 00:09.09 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 00:10.06 | Xan | why have the level up buttons on the same UI as the normal instead of seperate? |
| 00:10.16 | Nash|327 | Keyeszx: because it attempts to load the entire map list |
| 00:10.29 | XorioZ | so you don't have to go to a submenu to level an ability up. |
| 00:10.39 | Nash|327 | and floods to shit |
| 00:10.48 | Xan | do you have all abilities from the start? |
| 00:10.55 | XorioZ | nope |
| 00:11.15 | Keyeszx | Nash: Can I stop that or does it always crash? |
| 00:11.20 | Xan | then will the buttons be empty at the start? |
| 00:11.28 | XorioZ | but they will show from start. grayed out. |
| 00:11.46 | Nash|327 | it's too much stuff to load |
| 00:11.56 | Nash|327 | doesn't crash for me but it disconnects from bnet |
| 00:12.19 | Xan | what are the small boxes for? |
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| 00:12.49 | XorioZ | sec. ill make an explenation for it all. |
| 00:12.49 | Nash|327 | XorioZ is making a minigame inside the game |
| 00:12.55 | Xan | ^^ |
| 00:13.11 | Nash|327 | practice click accuracy |
| 00:13.57 | Keyeszx | Well if it doesn't crash it say disconnect from bnet. So basically I can't upload a map from bnet? |
| 00:14.03 | Keyeszx | download* |
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| 00:14.49 | Nash|327 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitt%27s_law |
| 00:17.27 | XorioZ | http://xorioz.users.whitehat.dk/UIsofar.jpg <- there it is with explenations. |
| 00:18.49 | Nash|327 | Fitts' law is fundamental to interaction design |
| 00:20.40 | Nash|327 | you've bascially made everything tiny and clumped together |
| 00:21.05 | Nash|327 | pretty much a standing invitation for people to mis-click everything |
| 00:21.21 | XorioZ | Yes nash i know that you know something called fit's law. it's a question of making an ui that looks cool or looks like it was made for mentally and / or physically challenged people. the buttons that will be used in this ui. the abilities that is are sufficiently big. the leveling buttons aren't used in combat. so in the end the only real problem with this ui design is the inventory... |
| 00:21.22 | XorioZ | ...buttons. who are bigger then the native ones and about the same size as any other dota style game inventory. |
| 00:21.24 | XorioZ | the end |
| 00:21.59 | Nash|327 | Oh, cool UIs. |
| 00:22.19 | Nash|327 | Fine, my efforts here are wasted. |
| 00:22.26 | Agouti | xor, making something easy to use doesn't mean it is for mentally challenged people |
| 00:22.34 | Agouti | that is just being silly. |
| 00:23.01 | XorioZ | i know. i'm just overstating what nash is asking me to do cos i spend a lot of time making this ui :P |
| 00:23.11 | Keyeszx | Why did maverck make it so annoying to open his mod? I just want the reaver model... |
| 00:23.15 | Agouti | time well spent learning |
| 00:23.29 | Nash|327 | everyone who can't click with ninja accuracy is retarded, clearly D:! |
| 00:23.37 | Agouti | the level up buttons should be above the abilities |
| 00:23.54 | Agouti | and inventory should be on the other side of stats |
| 00:24.00 | Agouti | if you wanted to make it easier to use |
| 00:24.00 | Vailreth | why? |
| 00:24.04 | Vailreth | ah |
| 00:24.16 | Agouti | just seperating things out a little |
| 00:24.47 | XorioZ | agouti thx. that i can do without messing up the ui to much. |
| 00:24.48 | Agouti | no reason to put buttons next to eachother (inventory and abilities) when you have something to separate them with imo |
| 00:25.10 | Nash|327 | If people want to make stuff that they think is cool, that's their business. I prefer functional. |
| 00:25.22 | Agouti | that is reasonably functional |
| 00:25.43 | XorioZ | yes nash but seriusly. you think the ability buttons are to small? or to close to each other? |
| 00:26.07 | Agouti | They could use a gap, but they look reasonably sized to me |
| 00:26.23 | Agouti | besides, no decent player will be clicking anyway |
| 00:26.29 | Nash|327 | I didn't criticize ability buttons |
| 00:26.48 | Nash|327 | they're alright |
| 00:26.50 | Agouti | as long as the inventory is hotkeyed |
| 00:26.56 | Agouti | it will be fine |
| 00:27.27 | Agouti | I along with any other person who plays a lot of AoS style games use hotkeys for everything |
| 00:27.46 | XorioZ | AoS? |
| 00:27.47 | Nash|327 | I click a fair bit. |
| 00:27.59 | Agouti | clicking is slow and dangerous |
| 00:28.12 | Vailreth | clicking gets you killed... |
| 00:28.18 | Agouti | indeed |
| 00:28.24 | Agouti | AoS = aion of strife |
| 00:28.25 | Nash|327 | well hotkeys requires finger positioning |
| 00:28.29 | Agouti | what came before dota |
| 00:28.31 | Agouti | pfft |
| 00:28.37 | Agouti | if you can type |
| 00:28.42 | Agouti | you have all the positioning you need |
| 00:28.44 | Nash|327 | I can type. |
| 00:28.50 | Nash|327 | I look at the keyboard. |
| 00:28.54 | XorioZ | seriusly. thought dota was the first one. |
| 00:28.56 | Vailreth | i do not type typically ... |
| 00:29.01 | Agouti | I'm surprised by that nash |
| 00:29.02 | Agouti | tbh |
| 00:29.20 | Agouti | you need to learn to touch type ;) |
| 00:29.42 | Nash|327 | I'm not good at doing things on routine. |
| 00:29.49 | Nash|327 | I do things consciously. |
| 00:29.56 | Agouti | it's really easy to learn |
| 00:30.01 | Agouti | just don't look at the keyboard |
| 00:30.04 | Agouti | and you will get it |
| 00:30.13 | Nash|327 | Decreases typing accuracy. |
| 00:30.14 | Agouti | ;) |
| 00:30.18 | Vailreth | in what two to four monthis or longer ? |
| 00:30.18 | Agouti | Nooo |
| 00:30.50 | Agouti | If anything, you type MORE accurately |
| 00:30.56 | Agouti | as you can see if you make a mistake |
| 00:30.58 | Agouti | straight away |
| 00:31.07 | Vailreth | what do you suggest for me who dose the magority fo my typing with my right index finger and ring and middline fingers on my left hand? |
| 00:31.14 | Nash|327 | Or I can look at keyboard and see what the hell I'm pushing. |
| 00:31.26 | Vailreth | majority* |
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| 00:31.27 | Agouti | You shouldn't need to look, nash |
| 00:31.44 | Agouti | I know where every key is without looking |
| 00:31.48 | Nash|327 | Not looking generates typos. |
| 00:31.49 | Vailreth | i need to look when i type a good deal of the time |
| 00:31.51 | Agouti | Just as I know where all my furniture is |
| 00:31.55 | Agouti | No Nash, it does not |
| 00:31.56 | Nash|327 | I don't like making typos. |
| 00:31.59 | Agouti | Or, perhaps |
| 00:32.04 | Agouti | It might for you. |
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| 00:32.09 | Agouti | not for normal people. |
| 00:32.20 | Vailreth | that arrogant |
| 00:32.24 | Nash|327 | Normal people can't spell anyway. |
| 00:32.28 | Vailreth | that's* |
| 00:32.39 | Agouti | If you tried to tell any professional typist that they should be looking at their keyboard they would laugh at you |
| 00:33.02 | Nash|327 | Why should I tell anyone else what they should do? |
| 00:33.08 | Nash|327 | They can do wtf they want. |
| 00:33.15 | Nash|327 | I know what works for me. |
| 00:33.23 | Agouti | This isn't about you |
| 00:33.27 | Agouti | This is about normal people |
| 00:33.42 | Agouti | who can use hotkeys without looking |
| 00:33.55 | Vailreth | professional typists are not "normal people" they are Proffessional Typists ... |
| 00:33.58 | Nash|327 | This started about me. |
| 00:33.58 | Agouti | knowing where q, w, e, r and t are |
| 00:34.01 | Agouti | is normal. |
| 00:34.23 | Agouti | I also know where a, s, d, f and g are |
| 00:34.34 | Agouti | and even if I somehow couldn't remember what the letters where |
| 00:34.47 | Agouti | usually the hotkeys are arranged in the same fasion as the screen buttons |
| 00:34.56 | Vailreth | i know where they are that doesnt mean i can hit them every time with out having to look down and reorint my hands on the keyboard from time to time |
| 00:35.00 | Nash|327 | Knowing where they are is insufficient. |
| 00:35.00 | Agouti | so I know the top left key corresponds to the top left button on the screen |
| 00:35.13 | Xan | you should arrange the screen buttons in a random order from the keyboard :D |
| 00:35.14 | Nash|327 | You have to know where your hand is in relation to keys. |
| 00:35.22 | Agouti | yes, which is simple |
| 00:35.36 | Agouti | motor-sensory positioning |
| 00:35.38 | Agouti | close your eyes |
| 00:35.41 | Agouti | touch your nose |
| 00:35.42 | Xan | nash, you put your middle finger on W, then you're set |
| 00:35.43 | Agouti | it is easy |
| 00:35.49 | Agouti | I'm serious |
| 00:35.54 | Vailreth | its not that simple for alot of people... |
| 00:35.59 | Agouti | you can touch any part of your body with your eyes closed |
| 00:36.00 | Nash|327 | It's not 100% accurate. |
| 00:36.17 | Agouti | it is accurate enough to hit a giant key |
| 00:36.35 | Vailreth | but keyboard keys are rather small |
| 00:36.43 | Vailreth | mid to small anyway |
| 00:36.49 | Nash|327 | I can type somewhat accurately without looking, for example this sentence is written without looking at keyboard, but it is actually slower. |
| 00:36.50 | Agouti | and, as with any skill, if you do it for any length of time you get better |
| 00:37.02 | Xan | you dont leave your fingers from the keyboard, just move them sideways, that way you won't miss them |
| 00:37.23 | Agouti | F and J have dents on them for learning |
| 00:37.24 | Xan | I find it easier to look at the screen while I'm typing |
| 00:37.29 | Xan | then I see if I make typos or not |
| 00:37.36 | Agouti | Looking at the keyboard halves my WPM |
| 00:37.40 | Agouti | easily |
| 00:37.49 | Agouti | my major source of typos are not mishits |
| 00:37.54 | Agouti | I virtually NEVER mishit |
| 00:37.57 | Nash|327 | It's slower because of mental effort in ascertaining where you must move your finger, and because making errors reduces efficiency. |
| 00:38.01 | Agouti | it is usually bad timings between keys |
| 00:38.22 | Xan | its automatical for me, like driving or anything you're used to |
| 00:38.24 | Nash|327 | Therefore I glance down at keyboard when typing, thus improving my speed. |
| 00:38.26 | Agouti | Nash, you only have to think because you are out of practice |
| 00:38.45 | Agouti | Do I look down at the steering column of my car when I want to use my indicator? |
| 00:38.46 | Agouti | No |
| 00:38.51 | Agouti | Because I know where it is |
| 00:38.56 | Xan | indicator? |
| 00:38.56 | Agouti | Do I look down to change gears? |
| 00:39.03 | Agouti | turn indicators |
| 00:39.07 | Xan | oh |
| 00:39.07 | Agouti | flashing yellow lights |
| 00:39.11 | Nash|327 | I don't drive. |
| 00:39.20 | Agouti | do I look down to press the brake pedal? |
| 00:39.21 | Agouti | no |
| 00:39.23 | Nash|327 | I can't even sign my name. |
| 00:39.25 | Xan | muscle memory |
| 00:39.30 | Nash|327 | Well, not like normal people do. |
| 00:39.31 | Agouti | exactly. |
| 00:39.35 | Nash|327 | I write my name. |
| 00:39.39 | Nash|327 | In regular letters. |
| 00:39.46 | Agouti | I don't need a mirror to scratch an itch on my face |
| 00:39.54 | Nash|327 | I have no signature. |
| 00:39.59 | Xan | me neither |
| 00:40.07 | Agouti | a lot of people these days do not |
| 00:40.17 | Agouti | a signature requires some practice |
| 00:40.21 | Agouti | you have to sit down and learn it |
| 00:40.30 | Xan | boring |
| 00:40.30 | Vailreth | mine is deterirorating |
| 00:40.34 | Agouti | these days there are few calls for it |
| 00:40.35 | Nash|327 | I CAN'T write a signature. It's just a mess. |
| 00:41.08 | Xan | if you just write a line, that is a signature |
| 00:41.12 | Xan | or an X |
| 00:41.13 | Vailreth | all i can write in that flowery golbody gook is my name and thats all i can read of it was well |
| 00:41.34 | Agouti | Regardless, the majority of people do not need to look at the keyboard to press hotkeys - I mean, imagine if you had to in an FPS |
| 00:41.40 | Agouti | I need to go forwards |
| 00:41.43 | Nash|327 | My brain likes organization far too much to just write some mess of squiggles. |
| 00:41.43 | Agouti | *looks at keyboard* |
| 00:41.46 | Agouti | o, there W is |
| 00:41.53 | Agouti | you would be a joke |
| 00:41.57 | Agouti | or reload |
| 00:42.00 | Agouti | or crouch |
| 00:42.04 | Nash|327 | FPS generally lets you customize keys. |
| 00:42.12 | Agouti | as does SC2 |
| 00:42.12 | Vailreth | agouti i have to do that from time to time to reposition my hand |
| 00:42.13 | Agouti | regardless |
| 00:42.15 | Nash|327 | SC2 maps do not. |
| 00:42.18 | Xan | FPS generally all have the same controls |
| 00:42.19 | Agouti | yes, they do |
| 00:42.29 | Agouti | you can change the keys of any button |
| 00:42.30 | Agouti | in any map |
| 00:42.32 | Agouti | as of 1.2 |
| 00:42.40 | Nash|327 | Oh? |
| 00:42.44 | Agouti | indeed |
| 00:42.51 | Nash|327 | Well, that's neat. |
| 00:42.59 | Agouti | regardless, if the buttons are set up properly you shouldn't need to change them |
| 00:43.05 | Agouti | I have a weird set up for cod4 |
| 00:43.27 | Nash|327 | there's no "set up properly" |
| 00:43.29 | Agouti | but QWERT, ASDFG and to a lesser extent ZXCVB are all easily findable |
| 00:43.53 | Agouti | Nash I won't believe for a second that you couldn't reliably press Q without looking |
| 00:43.53 | Nash|327 | Some people don't have QWERTY keyboards |
| 00:43.58 | Nash|327 | some people are lefties |
| 00:43.59 | Xan | and yuip hjl nm |
| 00:44.01 | Xan | ^^ |
| 00:44.10 | Agouti | oh well, lefties |
| 00:44.15 | Nash|327 | some people have different preferences |
| 00:44.33 | Agouti | In that case, whatever your button is next to TAB |
| 00:44.36 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 00:44.36 | Xan | lefties use qwasd too though? |
| 00:44.44 | Nash|327 | You can only make a general key layout, which would be sufficient for most people. |
| 00:44.48 | Agouti | lefties I know still used wasd |
| 00:44.48 | JademusSreg | What is the topic? |
| 00:44.57 | Nash|327 | Xan: I had lefties complain about my keys. |
| 00:45.11 | Nash|327 | Or, well QWERTY stuff in general. |
| 00:45.12 | Agouti | JademusSreg, Nash is trying to argue that hotkeys are never good and nobody should touch type |
| 00:45.13 | Agouti | I think |
| 00:45.18 | Xan | what are your keys? |
| 00:45.22 | Nash|327 | nonsense |
| 00:45.23 | Keyeszx | Lefties can set up custom hotkeys can't they? |
| 00:45.29 | Agouti | of course |
| 00:45.30 | Nash|327 | QWERTASDF |
| 00:45.44 | Agouti | Lefties I know still use WASD for games |
| 00:45.51 | Agouti | they just have the keyboard off to the side |
| 00:46.02 | Agouti | means it's a bit of a transition to go from playing to typing |
| 00:46.10 | Agouti | but he seems to cope fine |
| 00:46.12 | Xan | sounds reasonable nash, the people who complained were probably just idiots, lefties or not |
| 00:46.15 | Xan | :) |
| 00:46.21 | Nash|327 | People are different, there's just no one optimal layout. |
| 00:46.37 | Agouti | I am more than happy to cater to 95% of people |
| 00:46.43 | Agouti | and let the rest do what they want |
| 00:46.49 | Nash|327 | Well that's the best you CAN do. |
| 00:47.18 | XorioZ | damnit. now you can say i told you so nash |
| 00:47.24 | Xan | dont forget to balance the maps for the deaf and blind too |
| 00:47.35 | Nash|327 | I told you so...? |
| 00:47.52 | XorioZ | the buff icons are WAY to small |
| 00:47.55 | JademusSreg | So long as it is remappable, the user has the option to optimize to their preference. I mean, someday I'd love to have a remappable touch-screen keyboard. =D |
| 00:48.44 | JademusSreg | Graphic tablets have remappable buttons, many games offer control configuration. |
| 00:49.01 | Nash|327 | Don't like the whole bar thing. |
| 00:49.36 | JademusSreg | It's positively barbaric to lack configurable controls. (orgivable for indie games maybe.) |
| 00:49.55 | Nash|327 | barbaric! |
| 00:50.23 | Nash|327 | Worse than raping and pillaging, even. |
| 00:50.55 | Agouti | always pillage BEFORE you burn |
| 00:51.09 | Agouti | this is important |
| 00:51.14 | Nash|327 | always rape before you burn |
| 00:51.23 | Agouti | well |
| 00:51.34 | Agouti | you can pillage the womenfolk |
| 00:51.44 | Agouti | so that can be arranged |
| 00:52.08 | Nash|327 | Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women. |
| 00:56.31 | Caz | Can i import specific unit/actor/weapon/effects from another map ? |
| 00:57.01 | Nash|327 | copy/paste |
| 00:57.24 | Caz | Copy, open new map, and paste will work ? |
| 00:58.29 | Nash|327 | without closing editor |
| 00:58.45 | Agouti | or use the old map as a dependency |
| 00:58.49 | Agouti | then duplicate |
| 00:59.01 | Nash|327 | possibly also without closing first map |
| 00:59.10 | Nash|327 | I always have both open |
| 00:59.16 | Caz | Didnt know i could have 2 active maps :x |
| 00:59.36 | Caz | Whenever i open a second, the old disappears.. never tried to find a way to toggle back heh |
| 00:59.45 | Nash|327 | Window menu...? |
| 00:59.51 | Agouti | I wish we could paint all the footprint applies |
| 01:00.05 | Agouti | Creep, No Creep, Block Vision, etc |
| 01:00.07 | Nash|327 | Sounds like someone's dad. |
| 01:00.22 | Nash|327 | I OPENED WITH WORD DOCUMENT AND NOW IT DELETED MY LETTER |
| 01:00.24 | Caz | Window menu ? |
| 01:00.41 | Caz | oh |
| 01:00.43 | Nash|327 | I HAD A LETTER AND OPENED ANOTHER DOCUMENT AND MY LETTER IS GONE |
| 01:00.44 | Caz | nm |
| 01:01.05 | Agouti | I TYPE WITH 2 FINGERS STARING @ KEYBOARD |
| 01:01.09 | Agouti | Oh wait, that is you |
| 01:01.12 | Agouti | pew pew ;) |
| 01:01.22 | Nash|327 | uh-huh |
| 01:01.49 | Nash|327 | Oh no, it's the typing police. |
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| 01:02.14 | Nash|327 | THEY SHALL SEND ME TO MANDATORY TYPING CLASSES D:! |
| 01:02.51 | Xan | I type with 5 fingers with my left hand, but only 2 on my right for some reason |
| 01:03.01 | Xan | damn fps games |
| 01:03.05 | Vailreth | similar for me |
| 01:03.21 | Nash|327 | Many people may type faster, but what does that help when they are illiterate blithering idiots? |
| 01:03.47 | Agouti | I feel sorry for people that are both |
| 01:03.48 | Xan | because its cooler |
| 01:03.50 | Xan | :D |
| 01:03.50 | Agouti | poor nashy |
| 01:03.59 | Agouti | shakes head sadly |
| 01:04.27 | Nash|327 | Come back when you've written 300000 words worth of novels. |
| 01:04.38 | Vailreth | can a behavior exist on a point or only on a unit? |
| 01:04.45 | Xan | yes |
| 01:04.51 | Agouti | would be nearly that many in essays, nash |
| 01:04.57 | Agouti | and several times that in code |
| 01:05.07 | Vailreth | yes to? |
| 01:05.18 | Xan | I've written 30000 words in bullshit |
| 01:05.26 | Agouti | most essays are |
| 01:05.36 | Agouti | though having to do technical essays are a drag |
| 01:06.03 | Xan | nash do the typing speed test |
| 01:06.03 | Xan | :D |
| 01:06.08 | Agouti | sort of like reports only with far more blabbering |
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| 01:06.13 | Nash|327 | Any question with an or between two mutually exclusive options can be answered with "yes". |
| 01:06.17 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 01:06.23 | Xan | http://speedtest.10-fast-fingers.com/ |
| 01:06.27 | Agouti | my limit is about 110 WPM before I start getting letters in the wrong order |
| 01:06.29 | Agouti | like the |
| 01:06.32 | Agouti | teh* |
| 01:06.36 | Agouti | ign |
| 01:06.38 | Xan | do the test agouti |
| 01:06.39 | Xan | do it |
| 01:07.07 | Vailreth | what options are mutually exclusive? |
| 01:07.17 | Agouti | I need to warm hands up first if I need to type fast >_> |
| 01:07.28 | Agouti | and take gloves off |
| 01:07.40 | Nash|327 | Well, in this case, point or only on unit. |
| 01:08.01 | Xan | I got 82 words |
| 01:08.10 | Xan | beat that |
| 01:08.11 | Xan | ^^ |
| 01:08.21 | Vailreth | you know nevermind... |
| 01:08.40 | Nash|327 | Behaviors are for units. |
| 01:08.47 | Nash|327 | Persistents are for points. |
| 01:09.07 | Vailreth | ah.. |
| 01:09.14 | Xan | whats for doodads? |
| 01:10.29 | Nash|327 | Doodads don't really exist. |
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| 01:10.40 | Xan | I'm the 38760 fastest typer of 1266187 |
| 01:10.41 | Xan | wahaha |
| 01:10.48 | Xan | th* |
| 01:11.02 | Xan | do the test nash |
| 01:11.03 | Xan | fun |
| 01:11.04 | Agouti | eh 82 |
| 01:11.11 | Nash|327 | No, not fun. |
| 01:11.13 | Xan | you got 82? |
| 01:11.15 | Xan | me too |
| 01:11.16 | Xan | :D |
| 01:11.19 | Agouti | :< mmm |
| 01:11.29 | Xan | vailreth |
| 01:11.33 | Agouti | obviously slipped |
| 01:11.39 | Xan | I got 2 words wrong |
| 01:11.49 | Agouti | though typing like that - transcribing - is harder than just typing what you want |
| 01:11.54 | Xan | but had to backspace a few times |
| 01:12.07 | Agouti | because you are not watching what you are typing |
| 01:12.08 | Xan | yeah, but then you have to look at the screen |
| 01:12.42 | Agouti | it is slower than if you were just typing an essay out |
| 01:12.47 | Agouti | or taking dictation |
| 01:13.11 | Xan | essay is slower since you have to think about what to write :p |
| 01:13.30 | Agouti | well, overall perhaps |
| 01:13.38 | Agouti | but when you are actually typing, like with IRC |
| 01:13.39 | Nash|327 | I'm just going to start typing only with index fingers. |
| 01:13.43 | Agouti | you type a lot faster |
| 01:13.58 | Xan | possibly |
| 01:14.02 | Agouti | certainly my typing in IRC is a hell of a lot faster than I was in that speed test |
| 01:14.07 | Nash|327 | No other fingers allowed! |
| 01:14.10 | Agouti | takes less time to correct mistakes |
| 01:14.16 | Xan | do the test nash!! |
| 01:14.22 | Nash|327 | No. |
| 01:14.33 | Agouti | why try when you know you will only fail, eh? |
| 01:14.36 | Agouti | :P |
| 01:14.49 | Xan | :/ |
| 01:14.53 | Xan | because its fun |
| 01:14.54 | Xan | ^^ |
| 01:15.21 | Nash|327 | Index fingers fuck yeah! |
| 01:15.32 | Xan | that can't be ergonomical |
| 01:15.35 | Nash|327 | Pew pew pew! |
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| 01:15.57 | Nash|327 | Naw, but it's amusing. |
| 01:16.00 | Xan | do the test vail |
| 01:16.01 | Xan | :D |
| 01:16.05 | Xan | http://speedtest.10-fast-fingers.com/ |
| 01:16.11 | Vailreth | Feffing hell |
| 01:16.23 | Nash|327 | And you can go all pewpewpew when you type! |
| 01:16.48 | Xan | way harder to just type with index fingers |
| 01:17.00 | Nash|327 | Sure. |
| 01:17.14 | Xan | cant aim |
| 01:17.33 | Nash|327 | Bah, you need to look at keyboard more! |
| 01:17.40 | Xan | dark room |
| 01:17.44 | Xan | cant see keyboard |
| 01:17.44 | Xan | :D |
| 01:17.49 | JademusSreg | Fingerbang that keyboard. |
| 01:17.51 | JademusSreg | kapow |
| 01:17.53 | XorioZ | so i redid the UI sizes and so on. |
| 01:17.55 | XorioZ | http://xorioz.users.whitehat.dk/UIsofar.jpg |
| 01:17.59 | Nash|327 | Indeed. |
| 01:17.59 | XorioZ | better? |
| 01:18.39 | Xan | I think the add rank buttons should only be there when you level up |
| 01:19.03 | Nash|327 | You are too obsessed with symmetry. |
| 01:19.13 | XorioZ | that can easily be done with soem requirement's but that's vails apartment. |
| 01:19.18 | XorioZ | yes i am |
| 01:19.22 | Mexa|Tee | symmetry is nice. |
| 01:19.24 | XorioZ | :) |
| 01:19.35 | Nash|327 | Which is why you end up with tiny behaviors and lots of stats. |
| 01:20.20 | XorioZ | well we will be having lots of stats. was planing on adding more then 4 stats anyways. |
| 01:20.28 | Nash|327 | Ah. |
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| 01:20.45 | XorioZ | but it is better yes? |
| 01:20.55 | Vailreth | so you were able to get more than four attributes on a unit to show up with out crashing... |
| 01:21.01 | Nash|327 | Add rank buttons could be bigger and above abilities. |
| 01:21.02 | JademusSreg | Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Intelligence, Wisdom, Charisma |
| 01:21.05 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 01:21.09 | XorioZ | havent tried that yet :S |
| 01:21.16 | Xan | and |
| 01:21.17 | Xan | Luck |
| 01:21.23 | XorioZ | nope Jade it's not normal stats like that |
| 01:21.27 | Nash|327 | Only show up when you level up, above ability bar. |
| 01:21.37 | Nash|327 | An up arrow sort of thing. |
| 01:21.40 | JademusSreg | "Normal", haha. |
| 01:21.41 | Caz | How can i set the scale of the placement model ? Art-Scale is only affecting the finished model |
| 01:21.41 | Agouti | I also like symmetry |
| 01:21.49 | tordy | SYMMETRY!!!! |
| 01:21.54 | XorioZ | Vail kan you recap the stats? |
| 01:21.55 | JademusSreg | A D&D player would have picked up the reference. |
| 01:21.57 | Caz | when placing it shows normal size |
| 01:22.02 | Agouti | caz, my setting the scale on the placement model ofc |
| 01:22.07 | Agouti | by* |
| 01:22.12 | Nash|327 | Really don't like those tiny + keys. |
| 01:22.26 | Agouti | they are fine imo |
| 01:22.31 | Agouti | as long as they are hotkeyed |
| 01:22.35 | Xan | yeah would look better if the rank up buttons would be outside the UI frame, over the buttons, and only show up when you level up |
| 01:22.40 | Agouti | like control qwert |
| 01:22.49 | Agouti | Xan: HoN! |
| 01:22.51 | Agouti | :D |
| 01:22.53 | Caz | Agouti, there are 4 models to change for the unit. I only see 1 Art-Scale |
| 01:22.57 | Caz | where is this "other" scale ? |
| 01:22.58 | Xan | what? |
| 01:23.02 | Nash|327 | Hotkeys are insufficient. |
| 01:23.07 | Xan | I never played hon |
| 01:23.09 | Agouti | only for noobs |
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| 01:23.15 | Nash|327 | And don't allow for viewing tooltips. |
| 01:23.16 | Vailreth | dexterity |
| 01:23.37 | Vailreth | stupid connection cutting out every few minutes |
| 01:23.41 | Agouti | I have the entire UI hidden in HoN, with only the minimap showing |
| 01:23.55 | Agouti | and a hotkey to bring up the inventory for rearranging |
| 01:23.56 | Nash|327 | Make a level up button of about same size as ability button. |
| 01:23.56 | XorioZ | well. i would like them to do that to. but vail requested a toggle comandcard and that's cinda in the way for me to do the level up buttons on the top. |
| 01:24.10 | Xan | Strength, Agility, Dexterity, Charisma, Stamina, Spirit, Intelligence, Wisdom, Consitution, Vitality |
| 01:24.11 | XorioZ | WHY????????????? |
| 01:24.15 | Xan | so many stats |
| 01:24.15 | Nash|327 | Make the tooltip for buttons show how ability improves with level up. |
| 01:24.45 | XorioZ | why must the level up button be the same size as the ability button. that's silly in my mind. |
| 01:25.02 | Nash|327 | So it's easy to hover over and click. |
| 01:25.25 | Xan | but I think they should be hidden and outside the UI bar on top |
| 01:25.26 | Xan | ^^ |
| 01:25.26 | Xan | I think the size is fine xorioz |
| 01:25.43 | XorioZ | Xan. i would like that to. |
| 01:26.16 | Caz | Agouti, the scale i set is affecting all the models for the unit except placement.. |
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| 01:26.21 | XorioZ | But we have a toggle Comadncard that can show 5 extra buttons on top of the ability buttons for ability submenus. |
| 01:26.23 | Nash|327 | Upgrades your Kittun Launcher ability to level 2. This will increase damage to 300 and number of Kittuns fired to 3. |
| 01:26.41 | Xan | ability submenus? |
| 01:26.42 | Xan | whats that |
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| 01:26.46 | XorioZ | dono |
| 01:26.46 | tordy | ewhat's the max level a hero could be? |
| 01:26.50 | XorioZ | ask Vail. |
| 01:26.51 | Nash|327 | You can't have such stuff easily accessible with tiny little buttons :G |
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| 01:27.20 | Xan | whats wrong with your connection vail |
| 01:28.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Vailreth_ (kvirc@75.108.215.142) |
| 01:28.26 | Vailreth_ | i tend to have this issue every couple of months for two or so weeks |
| 01:29.01 | Caz | Doesn't make sense thta [Art - Model], [Art - Build], [Art - Editor], are all affected by scale while [Art - Placement] is still showing the normal size when placing the the structure |
| 01:29.08 | Caz | that* |
| 01:29.25 | Vailreth_ | i report it they come out tell me nothing is wrong and then charge me forty extra bucks |
| 01:29.30 | tordy | woah! |
| 01:29.50 | Nash|327 | Is that worse than forty cakes? |
| 01:30.04 | Vailreth_ | i hate you nash |
| 01:30.36 | Nash|327 | Because forty cakes, that's terrible. |
| 01:31.17 | Xan | why would they charge you to fix your connection? |
| 01:31.17 | Xan | :s |
| 01:31.22 | Xan | thats crappy service |
| 01:31.42 | Nash|327 | It's called having a monopoly. |
| 01:31.44 | Nash|327 | ;G |
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| 01:32.18 | Xan | why is it so impossible for other companies to compete with them? |
| 01:32.20 | Xan | :/ |
| 01:32.23 | Nash|327 | Some people only have 1 option for ISP. |
| 01:32.31 | Xan | cant be much worse service |
| 01:32.36 | Nash|327 | They live in hicksville or some shit. |
| 01:33.17 | Nash|327 | Seems to be a mainly US problem. |
| 01:33.29 | Xan | yeah.. |
| 01:33.43 | Nash|327 | I have shitty ______, and it sucks and service is shit, but I have no alternative. |
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| 01:33.54 | Xan | how can an internet connection be so expensive while gas is so cheap in USA? |
| 01:34.32 | Xan | very strange |
| 01:34.34 | Nash|327 | I guess they can't invade some place and take their internet connections? |
| 01:34.38 | Vailreth_ | because other countries wont find excuses to bomb the hell out of the OPEC folks |
| 01:35.24 | Vailreth_ | the truth is the american infrastructure is out of date and decaying rapidly and no one wants to spend the money to update it |
| 01:35.51 | Nash|327 | Well, you let capitalism establish it all in the first place. |
| 01:35.55 | Xan | a lot is out of date |
| 01:36.18 | Nash|327 | Free market, nobody takes long term responsibility. |
| 01:36.38 | Nash|327 | Nobody wants to spend money on infrastructure. |
| 01:36.50 | Nash|327 | It's all short term profit. |
| 01:37.05 | Xan | they have nothing to gain from it |
| 01:37.11 | Xan | only the people will gain from it |
| 01:37.14 | Xan | not the shareholders |
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| 01:37.53 | Nash|327 | Right, and a corporation's only responsibility is to generate profit for its shareholders. |
| 01:38.17 | Nash|327 | fuck-all is going to happen |
| 01:38.21 | Griffenator | That's why a feudal system is the only one which works. |
| 01:38.25 | Nash|327 | same with the environment |
| 01:38.39 | Caz | how do i find the placement model to scale it ? |
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| 01:38.52 | Vailreth | fucking hell |
| 01:38.58 | Xan | welcome back x25 |
| 01:39.03 | Vailreth | i pay 55$ US for this service |
| 01:39.06 | Griffenator | Why we need a new feudal system, with non-geographical division of property and individuals. |
| 01:39.15 | Xan | 55?????? |
| 01:39.24 | Xan | whats your connection speed? |
| 01:39.40 | Griffenator | Establishing dynasties which depend upon infrastructure development will internalise the externalities sufficiently to encourage reinvestment |
| 01:39.51 | Griffenator | Leading to long term growth and prosperity for everyone. |
| 01:40.32 | Nash|327 | Liberalism likes to point to "tragedy of the commons" to justify private ownership, but some things are by nature common. |
| 01:40.49 | Nash|327 | And nobody will take responsibility for them in a free market system. |
| 01:40.55 | Nash|327 | There is no profit. |
| 01:41.07 | Griffenator | I don't think you know what liberalism is. |
| 01:41.25 | Nash|327 | ignores the troll |
| 01:41.25 | Griffenator | Liberatarians like to point to the tragedy of the commons to justify private ownership. |
| 01:41.42 | Griffenator | Okay, the bit about a new feudal system was trolling. |
| 01:41.52 | Griffenator | But you have got liberalism and libertarianism mixed up. |
| 01:42.03 | Xan | ? |
| 01:42.28 | Griffenator | Liberals have broadly a more positive conception of liberty than libertarians, so private ownership isn't as central. |
| 01:42.51 | Nash|327 | Well enough ranting, I guess. |
| 01:42.54 | Griffenator | And in libertarianism, it isn't so much used to justify private ownership, as initial acquisition of raw materials. |
| 01:43.41 | Griffenator | Go read some Nozick on the subject, if you want a fairly standard libertarian line, although a fallacious one. |
| 01:43.46 | Xan | Liberalism is different here griff |
| 01:43.48 | Xan | (sweden) |
| 01:43.56 | Griffenator | Not really. |
| 01:43.56 | tordy | what's suppress combat |
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| 01:44.00 | tordy | vs suppress attack? |
| 01:44.33 | Griffenator | Anyway, good night |
| 01:44.35 | Vailreth_ | i believe i am paying for 10 mb down 1/2 mb up a second |
| 01:44.46 | Xan | thats terrible vail |
| 01:44.47 | Xan | :/ |
| 01:44.48 | Vailreth_ | er not 1/ half |
| 01:45.07 | Xan | I pay about 25$ for 100 up, 100 down |
| 01:45.14 | Vailreth_ | but lot a full two mb up |
| 01:45.32 | Vailreth_ | according internet frog i get about 4 up |
| 01:45.45 | Vailreth_ | no a full* |
| 01:45.50 | Nash|327 | Suppress attack makes units behave like they can attack, following targets, getting into range, etc. |
| 01:46.00 | Nash|327 | But the actual attack never occurs. |
| 01:46.16 | Nash|327 | Dunno about Suppress combat. |
| 01:46.39 | Vailreth_ | yeah the US gets Gouged on Telecomunicactions |
| 01:47.07 | Xan | probably all goes to a few people |
| 01:47.17 | Vailreth_ | i pay only a third less than people who get nearly double my service |
| 01:47.18 | Xan | definatly not to upgrade the infrastructure |
| 01:47.19 | Xan | ^^ |
| 01:47.42 | Xan | you pay double for 15 times slower, vail |
| 01:47.43 | Xan | :P |
| 01:47.46 | Vailreth_ | the arent going to worry about ugrading the infrastructure tell it collapses around our heads |
| 01:48.13 | Vailreth_ | till* |
| 01:48.36 | Vailreth_ | there are people who pay more than idea and get worse service |
| 01:49.08 | Xan | if they live in antartica |
| 01:49.21 | Vailreth_ | no |
| 01:49.24 | Vailreth_ | illionois |
| 01:49.25 | Xan | ^^ |
| 01:49.28 | Xan | lol |
| 01:49.34 | Nash|327 | Don't see how people can live in that bizarre country D: |
| 01:49.38 | Vailreth_ | my friend pays more gets worse service... |
| 01:50.26 | Xan | I think you get better service here in the middle of the forest |
| 01:50.48 | Nash|327 | naw |
| 01:51.00 | Nash|327 | the service at my summer house is shit |
| 01:51.09 | Caz | I copied the placement model, set its scale to min/max 0.25 |
| 01:51.10 | Xan | where is that? |
| 01:51.11 | Nash|327 | and it's not even in the middle of the forest |
| 01:51.13 | Caz | Still no size change |
| 01:51.15 | Nash|327 | Närke |
| 01:51.15 | Vailreth_ | according to internet frog i get four down and 8 up |
| 01:51.52 | Xan | hmm |
| 01:51.54 | Xan | värmland? |
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| 01:52.07 | Nash|327 | Närke is not Värmland. |
| 01:52.09 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 01:52.28 | Xan | ugh |
| 01:52.30 | Xan | where is it |
| 01:52.35 | Xan | I'm bad with names |
| 01:52.45 | Nash|327 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N%C3%A4rke |
| 01:52.58 | Frostwind | yawns |
| 01:53.03 | Nash|327 | geography fail D: |
| 01:53.34 | Xan | sweden geography fail |
| 01:53.35 | Xan | ^^ |
| 01:53.44 | Nash|327 | Yeah. |
| 01:53.48 | Xan | I used to know all capitals in the world :/ |
| 01:54.03 | Nash|327 | I know all the capitals. |
| 01:54.12 | Xan | really? |
| 01:54.17 | Nash|327 | ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ |
| 01:54.30 | Xan | capital of angola? |
| 01:54.48 | Nash|327 | ... |
| 01:54.51 | Xan | ^^ |
| 01:54.58 | Nash|327 | Sigh. |
| 01:55.34 | Xan | wrote that before your joke |
| 01:55.36 | Xan | nevermind |
| 01:55.36 | Xan | ^^ |
| 01:56.13 | Nash|327 | herpaderp |
| 01:56.29 | Vexal | hello. |
| 01:57.08 | Nash|327 | Vexal sounds vexing. |
| 01:57.29 | Vexal | why |
| 01:58.02 | Nash|327 | Well, vex with -al suffix. |
| 01:58.22 | Nash|327 | National is related to a nation. |
| 01:58.40 | Nash|327 | Vexal should be related to vexing? |
| 02:00.24 | Mephs_ | vexal is to mapping as palin is to presidency |
| 02:01.29 | Keyeszx | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:01.50 | Nash|327 | A disaster? |
| 02:02.35 | Xan | more like a joke |
| 02:02.40 | Agouti | Guh, for some reason map is getting bad drops |
| 02:02.51 | Agouti | like 4+ people every game get dropped @ start |
| 02:03.04 | Agouti | and I have no idea why |
| 02:03.16 | Vexal | i'm pretty sure it's illegal for women to be president |
| 02:04.16 | Nash|327 | people get dropped all the fucking time |
| 02:04.26 | Nash|327 | I don't even bother playing. |
| 02:04.29 | Keyeszx | No it's just illegal for people from Alaska to be president |
| 02:05.08 | Nash|327 | And Kenya. |
| 02:05.15 | Xan | it should be illigal for people from texas to be president |
| 02:05.57 | Nash|327 | It should be illegal to be president. |
| 02:06.09 | Vailreth_ | what?? |
| 02:06.14 | Vailreth_ | i am offended by that |
| 02:06.19 | Vailreth_ | Xan |
| 02:06.26 | Vailreth_ | i am from texas |
| 02:06.31 | Xan | no offense to you |
| 02:06.53 | Nash|327 | Are you planning to run for president? |
| 02:07.01 | Vailreth_ | no |
| 02:07.02 | Xan | I'm mostly thinking of the bush's |
| 02:07.07 | Vailreth_ | yeah |
| 02:07.45 | Nash|327 | Eh, "democracy" is a joke. |
| 02:08.46 | Nash|327 | You get to vote who represents the guys who fuck you in the ass for another 4 years, and all you can do is vote for someone who tells them to use a condom at least. |
| 02:09.42 | Vexal | mephs_ is to faggot as faggot is to sucking penises |
| 02:09.58 | Vexal | that was a good one. |
| 02:10.11 | Nash|327 | not really |
| 02:10.17 | Vexal | why |
| 02:10.20 | Xan | I find it a bit silly that you can only pick between 2 people |
| 02:10.22 | Xan | ^^ |
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| 02:10.41 | Nash|327 | Well, most of those who suck penis are women. |
| 02:11.06 | Nash|327 | Gay guys are a small percentage. |
| 02:11.26 | Keyeszx | Humans vs Orcs CTF who would play that |
| 02:11.31 | Nash|327 | So Mephs is what, 20% faggot? |
| 02:12.16 | Nash|327 | Assuming 10% gays, 50% women, that's 10% gay guys and 40% straight women sucking penis. |
| 02:12.30 | Nash|327 | So 20% of penis suckers are gay. |
| 02:12.35 | Xan | 10%? |
| 02:12.43 | Xan | thats a bit of a large estimate |
| 02:13.03 | Nash|327 | Perhaps. |
| 02:13.09 | Vailreth_ | well atleast my connection has stablized |
| 02:13.32 | Xan | more like |
| 02:13.32 | Xan | 2% |
| 02:13.55 | Nash|327 | Still, if you do the math, the insult is really terrible. |
| 02:13.56 | Xan | 2 of 100 still sounds too much |
| 02:14.17 | Nash|327 | Even if you don't think faggot is a terrible insult in the first place. |
| 02:14.25 | Nash|327 | Which I do. |
| 02:14.51 | Xan | I dont understand the joke |
| 02:15.07 | Nash|327 | Calling someone gay is as insulting as calling someone a person who likes to eat fish. |
| 02:15.52 | Xan | you're such a vegeterian! |
| 02:15.59 | Nash|327 | Or whatever else example of an irrelevant personal preference you can think of. |
| 02:16.12 | Vailreth_ | hey calling me a vegeterian would insult me |
| 02:16.21 | Xan | :D |
| 02:16.24 | Xan | me too |
| 02:16.25 | Xan | :/ |
| 02:16.37 | Vailreth_ | and calling me a vigan... well thems fightin words |
| 02:16.52 | Vailreth_ | vegan or what ever |
| 02:16.55 | Nash|327 | Well... YOU LIKE TO GO JOGGING! |
| 02:16.58 | Nash|327 | HAHA! |
| 02:17.02 | Vailreth_ | lol |
| 02:17.15 | Vailreth_ | laugh worthy there nash very laugh worthy |
| 02:17.16 | Nash|327 | PWNED |
| 02:17.48 | Keyeszx | Humans vs Orcs CTF who would play |
| 02:18.07 | Nash|327 | Humans, and Orcs, presumably. |
| 02:18.13 | Nash|327 | KEKEKEKE |
| 02:18.32 | Keyeszx | looks weird capitol |
| 02:18.36 | Keyeszx | capital? |
| 02:18.54 | Vexal | i got to work at 2 pm today. no one seemed to notice. |
| 02:18.55 | Vailreth_ | can i run something by you my fellow mapsters... |
| 02:19.04 | Keyeszx | how fast are you? |
| 02:19.12 | Nash|327 | Spain vs. France football who would play? herpaderp |
| 02:19.17 | Vailreth_ | heh |
| 02:19.28 | Keyeszx | I think Germany and Britain |
| 02:19.37 | Nash|327 | Close enough. |
| 02:19.45 | Xan | huh |
| 02:19.58 | Vailreth_ | i am using a requiremnt to test if the level of a veterancy is higher than the sum of the level of an ability and its self |
| 02:20.33 | Vailreth_ | i am validating if this requirements if true for use in a switch effect |
| 02:21.05 | Nash|327 | X > Y + X? |
| 02:21.09 | Vailreth_ | and i have lost my train of thought... |
| 02:21.18 | Vexal | going home. |
| 02:21.29 | Vailreth_ | bye Voxel |
| 02:21.40 | Keyeszx | If he wasn't home where was he? |
| 02:21.50 | Vailreth_ | he was at work |
| 02:21.56 | Keyeszx | work? |
| 02:21.59 | Vailreth_ | yes |
| 02:22.02 | Keyeszx | what is this... work you speak of? |
| 02:22.18 | Nash|327 | X > Y + X <-> Y < 0 |
| 02:22.34 | Vailreth_ | work is stuff you dont like to do but have to to make teh monies it costs to live in da world |
| 02:23.03 | Xan | X -> Y+Z-Y<->XYZ<-Z+X |
| 02:23.17 | Keyeszx | da world? |
| 02:23.24 | Keyeszx | could you possibly mean The World |
| 02:23.35 | Keyeszx | that game was great |
| 02:23.35 | Vailreth_ | i mean reality |
| 02:23.35 | Nash|327 | You sell your labor to a capitalist, which takes the profits you produce and gives you a small percentage. |
| 02:23.51 | Keyeszx | anyone remember .hack |
| 02:24.07 | Vailreth_ | the ever present shit hole of life that we are made to waller in by an uncaring coincidence of fates |
| 02:24.31 | Keyeszx | .hack was one of the best RPGs ever |
| 02:24.34 | Vailreth_ | Yay im not happt right now |
| 02:24.48 | Vailreth_ | happy* |
| 02:24.50 | Xan | coincidence of fates? |
| 02:24.50 | Nash|327 | pet kittuns |
| 02:25.02 | Vailreth_ | eh it sounded cool in my head |
| 02:25.06 | Nash|327 | Bit of an oxymoron. |
| 02:25.06 | Xan | how can it be coincidence and fate at the same time |
| 02:25.25 | Vailreth_ | er .. |
| 02:25.41 | Keyeszx | they're on to us RUN! |
| 02:25.54 | Vailreth_ | the fates of diffrent thing coinciding at the same moment to create the patterns of life as we know them |
| 02:25.55 | Nash|327 | "waller" is worse, though... |
| 02:26.03 | Vailreth_ | i cant spell |
| 02:26.13 | Keyeszx | orly |
| 02:26.22 | Vailreth_ | yeahreally |
| 02:26.23 | Nash|327 | http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/wallow |
| 02:26.25 | Keyeszx | i herd u liek mudkipz |
| 02:26.42 | Xan | I don't even know what that means |
| 02:26.52 | Xan | or didn't know |
| 02:26.52 | Vailreth_ | i once called a girl my little chikorita ... |
| 02:27.02 | Keyeszx | orly |
| 02:27.27 | Vailreth_ | ive lived in hickville to long im stating to pick up their coloquialisims |
| 02:27.38 | Vailreth_ | and yes really |
| 02:27.56 | Nash|327 | Xan you need a dictionary. |
| 02:28.03 | Nash|327 | D:~~ |
| 02:28.09 | Xan | I have a few |
| 02:28.12 | Xan | boring |
| 02:28.12 | Xan | :D |
| 02:28.22 | Xan | I don't write a lot |
| 02:28.26 | Xan | so don't use it a lot |
| 02:28.38 | Keyeszx | but i h3rd u li3k muk1pz |
| 02:28.42 | Vailreth_ | i feel so dirty having actually used Waller in place of wallow |
| 02:28.46 | Nash|327 | Fine, remain an ignoramus! |
| 02:29.01 | Nash|327 | You cretin. |
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| 02:29.12 | Keyeszx | why are there so many people listed but never talk? |
| 02:29.18 | TacoManStan | dk |
| 02:29.19 | Xan | at least I spell right |
| 02:29.20 | Nash|327 | TOO MANY LURKERS |
| 02:29.24 | Keyeszx | it's always Nash, Vailreth, and Xan |
| 02:29.27 | Nash|327 | SPAWN MORE OVERLORDS |
| 02:29.30 | Vailreth_ | Geebs fetch the rubbing alchohol and the steel wool... |
| 02:29.32 | Mexa|Tee | herpaderpa |
| 02:29.37 | Keyeszx | and Mexa |
| 02:29.46 | GePanda | Hello |
| 02:29.50 | Mexa|Tee | Jademus is here sometimes. |
| 02:29.55 | Xan | why be in a chatroom if you don't talk I wonder |
| 02:30.04 | Vailreth_ | status |
| 02:30.06 | Mexa|Tee | But he is way busy with Terraria I think :> |
| 02:30.11 | Vailreth_ | its cool to be in Sc2mapster |
| 02:30.14 | Keyeszx | what's Terraria? |
| 02:30.15 | TacoManStan | well I'm doing a pre-beta testing on NA if anyone wants in |
| 02:30.18 | Xan | it's like sitting at a busstop without wanting to enter the bus |
| 02:30.21 | Nash|327 | To collect logs for blackmail. |
| 02:30.30 | Keyeszx | Taco is this for siesmic square? |
| 02:30.41 | TacoManStan | ya |
| 02:30.54 | Keyeszx | you doing it right now because I'm about to eat |
| 02:31.03 | Mexa|Tee | http://www.terraria.org/ |
| 02:31.10 | TacoManStan | probably gonna start in a half hour or so |
| 02:31.12 | Xan | too ugly graphics |
| 02:31.18 | Xan | cant bear it |
| 02:31.20 | Xan | bare |
| 02:31.20 | Frostwind | yawns from boredon |
| 02:31.22 | Xan | beer |
| 02:31.24 | TacoManStan | damn that 2 minute upload timer |
| 02:31.27 | Frostwind | boredom* |
| 02:31.31 | Nash|327 | Yes, they are doing it right now just because you're about to eat, simply out of spite! |
| 02:31.39 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 02:31.42 | Keyeszx | it sounds like it :D |
| 02:31.57 | Keyeszx | Anyone know how to get a cel shaded look in starcraft 2? |
| 02:33.09 | Nash|327 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/trigger-libraries/6816-library-hero-selection-v3-0-1-final/ |
| 02:33.26 | Keyeszx | what's that got to do with anything? |
| 02:33.32 | Keyeszx | Nash: who are you on the forums? |
| 02:33.32 | Nash|327 | Watch video. |
| 02:33.37 | Nash|327 | Nashadun |
| 02:33.43 | Nash|327 | I have kittuns everywhere. |
| 02:48.05 | Xan | what kind of cell shading keyeszx? |
| 02:48.23 | Xan | you could play with the lighting editor |
| 02:48.42 | Xan | or with depth of field |
| 02:56.02 | Vailreth_ | i had a great idea for a one off campain style map... |
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| 02:56.39 | tordy | another scorcher! |
| 02:57.05 | Vailreth_ | well it may not really be a great idea but i like it |
| 03:05.22 | Nash|327 | I am the judge of what is and what is not a great idea. |
| 03:05.37 | XorioZ | ok. |
| 03:05.44 | XorioZ | the new ui frame |
| 03:05.46 | XorioZ | http://xorioz.users.whitehat.dk/UIsofar.jpg |
| 03:06.04 | Nash|327 | no comment |
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| 03:06.57 | Keyeszx | Is taco still here? |
| 03:07.23 | Nash|327 | No. |
| 03:18.29 | Agouti | what was that function to see if a player was a spectator, again? |
| 03:18.31 | Agouti | I cannot find it |
| 03:26.09 | Agouti | never mind |
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| 03:43.49 | Vexal | hello. |
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| 04:05.20 | Mephs_ | i just ordered pizza |
| 04:05.23 | Mephs_ | and they were out of basil |
| 04:05.26 | Mephs_ | so they were like have a free cake |
| 04:05.32 | tordy | yellow cake? |
| 04:05.59 | Mephs_ | chocolate mousse |
| 04:09.05 | Vexal | someone posted an identical statement on the blizzard forums |
| 04:10.13 | Mephs_ | that might be because it was me |
| 04:10.27 | Vexal | did you get a new account |
| 04:10.29 | Vexal | or change your name |
| 04:10.30 | Mephs_ | no |
| 04:10.36 | Mephs_ | brother changed the name on my troll acct |
| 04:10.37 | tordy | link o that |
| 04:10.43 | Mephs_ | also since you're here |
| 04:10.48 | Mephs_ | ~Mephs |
| 04:10.48 | purl | methinks mephs is someone with three more yachts than you! |
| 04:10.51 | Mephs_ | ~Vexal |
| 04:11.01 | Vexal | what does that do |
| 04:11.15 | Mephs_ | ~Vexal is a man who likes to eat poop and then poop out the poop and it smells like poop then he eats it again |
| 04:11.15 | purl | okay, Mephs_ |
| 04:11.18 | Mephs_ | ~Vexal |
| 04:11.19 | purl | rumour has it, vexal is a man who likes to eat poop and then poop out the poop and it smells like poop then he eats it again |
| 04:11.20 | Mephs_ | that. |
| 04:11.27 | Vexal | ~vexal |
| 04:11.27 | purl | i heard vexal is a man who likes to eat poop and then poop out the poop and it smells like poop then he eats it again |
| 04:11.32 | tordy | do one for me! |
| 04:11.37 | Vexal | ~vexal |
| 04:11.37 | purl | i heard vexal is a man who likes to eat poop and then poop out the poop and it smells like poop then he eats it again |
| 04:11.56 | Vexal | your bot pm'd me "someone already said that 3 seconds ago" |
| 04:11.58 | Vexal | your bot sucks. |
| 04:12.03 | Mephs_ | ~tordy is made of chocolate jellybeans |
| 04:12.03 | purl | ...but tordy is already something else... |
| 04:12.07 | Mephs_ | ~tordy |
| 04:12.07 | purl | tordy is, like, not torday |
| 04:13.35 | Mephs_ | ~Sixen |
| 04:13.35 | purl | i guess sixen is the type of guy who likes to stick his penis in other mans penises |
| 04:13.42 | Vexal | does it fit |
| 04:14.37 | tordy | first time i ever heard idra laugh |
| 04:14.37 | tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktzDR__LTDQ&feature=related |
| 04:15.09 | Mephs_ | idra doesn't smile |
| 04:15.12 | Mephs_ | shut up |
| 04:15.17 | tordy | inoritte |
| 04:15.28 | Mephs_ | idra has no emotions |
| 04:15.32 | Mephs_ | he was bred for war |
| 04:15.34 | Mephs_ | craft |
| 04:15.35 | Mephs_ | ...star. |
| 04:15.38 | Mephs_ | whatever |
| 04:17.21 | Mephs_ | ~cake |
| 04:17.21 | purl | it has been said that cake is a lie! and rick rolls people. |
| 04:17.22 | tordy | he's got emotions here |
| 04:17.22 | tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bovxyFa111Y#t=8s |
| 04:17.40 | tordy | he just doesnt express them in a humanely angry way |
| 04:17.40 | Mephs_ | thats not emotion |
| 04:17.46 | Mephs_ | thats stoic irritation |
| 04:18.12 | Mephs_ | what idra has forgotten is that he is bound to this life |
| 04:18.15 | Mephs_ | he wants to quit |
| 04:18.21 | Mephs_ | but then he walks away from the computer |
| 04:18.23 | Mephs_ | eats a hot pocket |
| 04:18.30 | Mephs_ | and then he's like. i will not have this luxury if i quit |
| 04:18.33 | Mephs_ | so back to losing he goes |
| 04:19.33 | Vexal | back when there was copper league, i was copper |
| 04:19.40 | Vexal | but then they removed copper so i got promoted to bronze |
| 04:19.57 | tordy | when was the last time idra won a tournament |
| 04:20.14 | tordy | damn that's a lot of times he angry |
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| 04:21.02 | tordy | oh yea he won king of beta forgot bout that |
| 04:22.11 | Mephs_ | he won EG Master's Cup |
| 04:22.12 | Mephs_ | oh wait |
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| 04:52.57 | Agouti | christ |
| 04:53.06 | Agouti | that was a fucking annoying bug to fix |
| 04:53.20 | Agouti | Set variable someplayergroup = someotherplayergroup |
| 04:53.26 | Agouti | set it by reference |
| 04:53.52 | Agouti | so remove player from someplayergroup also removed it from someotherplayergroup |
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| 05:44.07 | Frostwind | yawns from boredom |
| 06:08.53 | phoenix7700 | guess no one is on!? |
| 06:09.32 | Frostwind | correct |
| 06:09.43 | Vexal | ? |
| 06:10.11 | Frostwind | yawns from boredom |
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| 06:22.55 | Ashamed | ~Ashamed |
| 06:23.02 | Ashamed | :( |
| 06:23.05 | Ashamed | bed time |
| 06:23.06 | Ashamed | good night |
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| 06:32.17 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 06:32.33 | JademusSreg | I'm departing for the evening. |
| 06:32.45 | JademusSreg | Going to curl up with a nice book. |
| 06:32.54 | JademusSreg | And do inappropriate things to it. |
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| 08:07.50 | Frall | Soooo many signs in my map >_> |
| 08:08.06 | Currydevil | signs? |
| 08:08.22 | Frall | Yeah decorating with signs and stuff. |
| 08:08.57 | Currydevil | doodads eh? |
| 08:09.04 | Currydevil | I like doodads. |
| 08:09.05 | Frall | Just hope it will run smoothly |
| 08:09.07 | Frall | Yeah |
| 08:09.08 | Currydevil | lol |
| 08:09.11 | Frall | hehe ;D |
| 08:14.21 | Currydevil | ahaha, that's so fun. watching my virus ability decimate the field of hundreds of zerglings. |
| 08:14.55 | Frall | :D |
| 08:15.34 | Currydevil | and with a proper actor, it looks cooler |
| 08:17.05 | Currydevil | alright, so 5 of my 6 heroes are 80% done with abilities (minus additional ability levels, those come later) |
| 08:17.17 | Currydevil | need to work on the 6th dude. |
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| 08:24.38 | Frall | Sounds like your working on something really cool :) |
| 08:27.25 | Currydevil | i hope so lol |
| 08:28.28 | Frall | hehe |
| 08:28.53 | Frall | Sadly I got no real scripting knowledge so I'm only doing multiplayer maps atm. |
| 08:29.01 | Frall | normal |
| 08:29.20 | Currydevil | ah, well i don't use the scripting either |
| 08:29.23 | Currydevil | just use gui |
| 08:29.41 | Frall | I study game design and level design tho. :) www.gamedesignblog.org |
| 08:29.43 | Frall | ok :) |
| 08:38.08 | Currydevil | cool stuff |
| 08:38.12 | Frall | :) |
| 08:38.18 | Frall | tnx |
| 08:42.41 | Currydevil | makes me want to do that when i go back to school. still undecided what I want to do though. |
| 08:42.56 | Frall | Ah ok |
| 08:44.25 | Frall | This education is really awesome. :) But its a really hard to get a job afterwards. I think I got ok chanses with all conections I get from school (all teachers work in game dev ecc) and the work training for 6-7 month at a game company will help allot to. Well see. :) |
| 08:45.47 | Vexal | hello. |
| 08:45.54 | Frall | hi |
| 08:49.00 | Currydevil | Heya Vex |
| 08:49.09 | Currydevil | yea, sounds like fun though Frall. |
| 08:49.21 | Currydevil | though I wish I had started sooner. ;) |
| 08:51.26 | Frall | heh |
| 08:51.31 | Frall | never to late ^^ |
| 08:53.09 | Currydevil | oh i know |
| 08:53.20 | Currydevil | i assume you are on EU ? |
| 08:54.08 | Frall | Yeah |
| 08:54.11 | Frall | From Sweden |
| 08:54.21 | Frall | You? |
| 08:54.35 | Currydevil | NA |
| 08:54.41 | Frall | ok |
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| 08:57.36 | Currydevil | It's so quiet tonight, Nash must be taking a kittun nap. |
| 08:57.49 | Currydevil | And Agouti ... working hard on killing spectators =O |
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| 09:05.32 | Helral|Work | tonight??? it's morning ;p |
| 09:06.44 | Currydevil | Wat!? since when? what have you done Hel? |
| 09:06.50 | Currydevil | stealing my night from me? |
| 09:07.52 | Helral|Work | I didn't steal it.... *burp* |
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| 09:08.28 | Currydevil | Oh ... well, I hope it went well with the shrimp. |
| 09:09.07 | Helral|Work | could use a bit more salt |
| 09:10.29 | Currydevil | Is ee |
| 09:11.28 | Agouti | damn spectators |
| 09:11.42 | Agouti | had a fucking awful bug |
| 09:11.55 | Agouti | where it set a var by reference to another var |
| 09:12.07 | Agouti | and I couldn't work out how the other var was being changed |
| 09:17.18 | Currydevil | kay, well I think it's about bed time for tonight. |
| 09:17.22 | Currydevil | getting tired. |
| 09:17.29 | Currydevil | er ... this morning. |
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| 09:17.40 | Currydevil | *cough cough* |
| 09:17.50 | Helral|Work | ;p |
| 09:18.00 | Currydevil | =O bye bye |
| 09:18.04 | Helral|Work | cya |
| 09:18.29 | Helral|Work | I forgot to tell him I also ate all the curry *grins* |
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| 09:30.36 | DarkRevenantX | FUCK |
| 09:31.12 | DarkRevenantX | MapScript.galaxy |
| 09:31.14 | DarkRevenantX | 2.1 MB |
| 09:35.32 | Helral|Work | meow? |
| 09:36.16 | DarkRevenantX | it means |
| 09:36.19 | DarkRevenantX | i cannot continue my map |
| 09:36.40 | Helral|Work | because? |
| 09:36.44 | DarkRevenantX | script |
| 09:36.46 | DarkRevenantX | is over 2MB |
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| 09:36.57 | Helral|Work | and you can't filter it down? |
| 09:37.10 | DarkRevenantX | it's already as optimized as it'll get |
| 09:37.16 | DarkRevenantX | the only thing i can do now is write some program that |
| 09:37.17 | Helral|Work | like in make some code into subfunctions and then re-use those subfunctions at multiple locations. |
| 09:37.32 | DarkRevenantX | strips all the comments, tabs, unnecessary breaks, spaces |
| 09:37.37 | DarkRevenantX | and renames every variable and function |
| 09:37.46 | DarkRevenantX | and i might make back the space |
| 09:37.54 | Helral|Work | which map did you reach that btw? |
| 09:38.00 | DarkRevenantX | Mafia |
| 09:38.04 | DarkRevenantX | it's got a LOT of script |
| 09:38.09 | DarkRevenantX | all of it is absolutely necessary |
| 09:38.10 | Helral|Work | I'd expect so. |
| 09:38.31 | DarkRevenantX | and there's no way to break it down further |
| 09:38.37 | Helral|Work | Mind if I take a look at the code, quite interested in how you did it :P |
| 09:38.59 | DarkRevenantX | what you want me to send you a trigger file? |
| 09:39.05 | DarkRevenantX | or just the .galaxy |
| 09:39.07 | DarkRevenantX | it was done in GUI |
| 09:39.17 | DarkRevenantX | because the galaxy support in the editor is beyond horrible |
| 09:39.26 | Helral|Work | GUI is fine by me. |
| 09:39.38 | DarkRevenantX | script highlighting in the editor |
| 09:39.43 | DarkRevenantX | is indescribable |
| 09:40.00 | Helral|Work | I think I can probably think of 1 method to shrink it, unless you've already used that method ;p |
| 09:40.10 | DarkRevenantX | as i said |
| 09:40.14 | DarkRevenantX | a third party program that |
| 09:40.17 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 09:40.21 | Helral|Work | not talking bout that :) |
| 09:40.23 | DarkRevenantX | shinks everything down |
| 09:40.32 | DarkRevenantX | is probably the only way |
| 09:40.47 | Helral|Work | mean something possible inside the GUI editor itself. although it might result in a massive rewrite of some code. |
| 09:40.53 | DarkRevenantX | there's not much i can do in terms of writing more functions |
| 09:41.11 | DarkRevenantX | i mean there is SOME redundant code |
| 09:41.15 | DarkRevenantX | but it's that way for a reason |
| 09:41.15 | Helral|Work | what about generalization? |
| 09:41.35 | DarkRevenantX | it would be incredibly difficult and annoying to make retroactive changes to anything if i optimized it to the max |
| 09:41.51 | Helral|Work | true |
| 09:42.33 | DarkRevenantX | i mean there's redundant stuff i could spend 20 hours recoding but it would only save be about 50KB at the most |
| 09:42.53 | Helral|Work | btw the Compressed size or not compressed size is 2.1MB? |
| 09:43.31 | Helral|Work | listed at the Overview Manager in the Editor. |
| 09:43.53 | DarkRevenantX | the uncompressed MapScript.galaxy |
| 09:43.55 | DarkRevenantX | in the MPQ |
| 09:43.58 | DarkRevenantX | is 2.1MB |
| 09:44.37 | DarkRevenantX | the triggers themselves are compressed to 4.67MB |
| 09:44.45 | DarkRevenantX | but that's stripped from the map when i upload it anyway |
| 09:45.33 | Helral|Work | hehehe ok the galaxy file of my map has some time to go till it hits that limit. (300kb atm) |
| 09:47.04 | DarkRevenantX | for some reason i can't find any way to just export the triggers |
| 09:47.09 | Vexal | sixen what did your post in my thread mean |
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| 09:47.38 | timecat | hello everyone |
| 09:48.09 | DarkRevenantX | oh found Triggers in the thing |
| 09:48.14 | Helral|Work | Vexal: did the conversation perhaps get moved to another forum? |
| 09:48.17 | DarkRevenantX | import editor |
| 09:48.21 | Helral|Work | hey timecat. |
| 09:48.26 | DarkRevenantX | probably not possible to import it to other maps |
| 09:48.29 | DarkRevenantX | i'll just upload the whole thing |
| 09:48.30 | Vexal | no it wasn't moved |
| 09:48.53 | Vexal | hey the panda is gone |
| 09:48.55 | Vexal | why |
| 09:49.29 | timecat | DE know how to make a command card button perform multiple actions at once? |
| 09:50.00 | Helral|Work | depends what actions you want. |
| 09:50.01 | timecat | I have two actions, one is a target-effect and the other is an apply behavior on itself |
| 09:50.08 | Helral|Work | you can use a set effect for that. |
| 09:50.20 | Helral|Work | a set effect is a set containing multiple effects. |
| 09:50.27 | timecat | so one effect is performed on another unit, and the other effect is performed on itself |
| 09:50.54 | timecat | yea but the thing is with the target-effect ability, everything is peformed on the target unit |
| 09:51.19 | Helral|Work | ability - effect target | effect - set | set effect 1 - target unit | set effect 2 - apply buff - target = caster |
| 09:51.32 | timecat | hmm ok i'll try that |
| 09:51.35 | Helral|Work | you can set the target of effects to caster to have it affect the person casting it. |
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| 09:59.16 | Sixen | vexal: that I don't feel like deleting another 10 posts, so don't rage at eachtoher. |
| 09:59.26 | Sixen | Mephs was being a doucher, so just ignore him and report it |
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| 09:59.33 | Vexal | well |
| 09:59.38 | Vexal | i was trying not to rage |
| 09:59.40 | Vexal | i just ignore him mostly |
| 09:59.50 | Sixen | yeah, I saw |
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| 10:00.06 | timecat | sweet it works, thx helral |
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| 10:15.18 | ________________ | My unit's collision radius won't change o.o wtf? |
| 10:15.42 | ________________ | I edited all the "radius" values for that unit... but the collision never changes |
| 10:15.56 | ________________ | am i missing something? |
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| 10:16.15 | mapsterman | sup guys |
| 10:16.20 | ________________ | ohi |
| 10:16.24 | mapsterman | i got |
| 10:16.27 | mapsterman | a HUGE |
| 10:16.32 | mapsterman | question |
| 10:16.42 | ________________ | i have a small 1 but i dont think ne 1 else is here |
| 10:16.45 | ________________ | but us |
| 10:16.56 | Helral|Work | inner radius = collision radius |
| 10:17.01 | ________________ | tried that |
| 10:17.03 | mapsterman | if you puit a wait inside an action definition and put that acction in a trigger, will it wait till it finishes to comtinues? |
| 10:17.14 | ________________ | i set it to 0, and set it to 4... unit had the same collision both times |
| 10:17.28 | Helral|Work | mapsterman: yup unless the action def is a seperate thread |
| 10:17.35 | mapsterman | o rly |
| 10:17.37 | mapsterman | i thought |
| 10:17.40 | mapsterman | it was the opposite |
| 10:17.41 | mapsterman | lol |
| 10:17.45 | mapsterman | ok tks |
| 10:17.46 | Helral|Work | ________________: doesn't work for units with footprints |
| 10:17.53 | mapsterman | appreciate |
| 10:17.57 | ________________ | oic, so the footprint is the problem? |
| 10:18.09 | ________________ | ty |
| 10:18.14 | ________________ | i shall fix that |
| 10:18.20 | Helral|Work | ________________: footprint = collision size. no footprint --> inner radius |
| 10:18.34 | ________________ | nice |
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| 10:20.51 | timecat | why are there two value fields in the energy regen rate field |
| 10:21.09 | ________________ | the delay is how long the energy waits before regerating |
| 10:21.18 | ________________ | wait after the last energy use i think |
| 10:21.25 | ________________ | and the other 1 is how fast it regens |
| 10:21.28 | ________________ | how much per sec |
| 10:23.55 | soulcarver | hey helral youstill here? |
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| 10:30.32 | Hobrow | hello |
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| 10:32.52 | Hobrow | WARNING: Model Cache ModelLink[BloodTargetImpact]; Failure to initialize. |
| 10:33.05 | Hobrow | has anyone ever seen this error message? |
| 10:34.15 | Hobrow | strange thing about it is that it only sometimes happens about 1 out of 10 the other 9 times it works |
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| 10:37.26 | Hobrow | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/actor.png/ the events |
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| 10:43.12 | Helral|Work | what is it soulcarver? |
| 10:44.36 | soulcarver | umm was wondering about layout files |
| 10:44.44 | soulcarver | we still need to import the xml files right? |
| 10:44.56 | soulcarver | and tell the "ui" data to use the files correct? |
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| 10:52.06 | soulcarver | anybody know if theres a way to hide the camera bounds on the map? |
| 10:53.04 | Hobrow | in the editor? |
| 10:53.32 | Mexa|Tee | tea time |
| 10:53.50 | Hobrow | hello mexa |
| 10:54.17 | Mexa|Tee | hello |
| 10:59.21 | Hobrow | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/23792-strange-actor-error/#p1 |
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| 11:16.12 | Helral|Work | soulcarver: yup |
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| 11:19.32 | Helral|Work | soulcarver: game - UI data - Camera Bounds Color / Triggers - Hide Camera Bounds (think that trigger one also exists now) |
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| 11:43.06 | ducky | HELLO! Anyone free on EU? Would love to do some testing on bomberman map! |
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| 12:48.04 | Dustin | DUCKY |
| 12:48.09 | Dustin | I made a bomberman map to |
| 12:55.03 | ducky | I know :D we both made bomberman maps |
| 12:55.19 | ducky | so thare are now 5 Bomberman maps in total I belive xD |
| 12:55.53 | ducky | mine is far from being finished though so i guess that makes it 4 |
| 12:55.59 | Helral|Work | for those who want to talk about SC2Dev stuff instead of type I'm working on setting up a vent server atm. Details here: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/2878-sc2mapster-staff-irc-ventrilo-avatar-rule/#p19 |
| 12:57.32 | Rodrigo | wow! |
| 12:57.34 | Rodrigo | teamliquid has a crazy audience |
| 12:57.51 | Rodrigo | 1000 views, 11 comments |
| 12:57.53 | Rodrigo | O.o |
| 13:09.50 | Dustin | Mines kinda more liberal on the arena, what's yours like? |
| 13:14.43 | Caz | Action: Issue Order use <ability> at point |
| 13:14.55 | Caz | Problem, unit only able to cast at a point equivalent to its center. |
| 13:15.17 | Caz | Any one have an idea why the ability (spell) can not get cast at range ? |
| 13:15.31 | Caz | Ability: High Templar - Psi Storm |
| 13:15.38 | Helral|Work | you didn't set the range for the ability/effect? |
| 13:15.49 | Caz | psi storm by default has range |
| 13:15.52 | Caz | 6 or so |
| 13:16.03 | ducky | Mine .. Well ,I wanted to play standart bomberman, but there was no such map, so i made one :D.. I'm aiming it to make jus as good as snes version, so far it got 6 arena sizes/3 arena themes/ a few of special powerups (like kick/remote control/wall pass)/ and it supports up to 13 players in one arena |
| 13:16.06 | Caz | i changed range and autocast range to 100 |
| 13:16.41 | ducky | oh and it comes with a huge pack of bugs due to difficulty of finding testers .. But someday it will be .. just as I envisioned it |
| 13:18.22 | ducky | I guess in a nutshell it's a bomberman with lots of customization options |
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| 13:20.17 | ducky | I think i should start spamming b-net channel at evenings, at day it's pretty hopeles to find anyone =( |
| 13:20.18 | Wiz10011 | Hello. |
| 13:20.24 | ducky | Greetings! |
| 13:20.46 | Wiz10011 | the answer is!!!! 42.. quote! (some random guy on this channel) |
| 13:22.05 | ducky | then why are you called wizz19 instead of wizz101010, it's heresy! burn yourself immideately! |
| 13:22.27 | ducky | or deny the ultimate answer to everything, your choice >:D |
| 13:22.53 | Wiz10011 | Who said Im the answered to everything? The 10011 Symbol a old personal reference to me. |
| 13:23.55 | ducky | oh, my mistake, proceed on living then |
| 13:24.10 | Wiz10011 | Thank you kind sir! |
| 13:24.50 | ducky | jumps into the cannon and launches himself into the sun |
| 13:26.58 | soulcarver | anybody know how to disable the right click "unit can not respond to that command error? |
| 13:28.09 | Xaragoth | http://imgur.com/a/kiadX#8f8N5 shiny stuff ~~ |
| 13:28.20 | Xaragoth | throws Helral|Work a fish. |
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| 13:32.39 | Agouti | soulcarver, it is fairly easy to change the error |
| 13:32.46 | soulcarver | how? |
| 13:32.53 | soulcarver | i havent really done it before |
| 13:33.14 | Agouti | I don't think you can remove it this way |
| 13:33.17 | Agouti | let me just make sure |
| 13:34.48 | Agouti | what ability is causing the error? |
| 13:35.05 | Agouti | is it right clicking with a unit that can't move? |
| 13:35.53 | soulcarver | no my unit can move |
| 13:36.08 | soulcarver | but im clicking off into unpathable space |
| 13:36.10 | soulcarver | soooo |
| 13:36.11 | Agouti | can you give me a little more detail, so I can tell you how to do it? |
| 13:36.26 | soulcarver | basically its a spot the unit cant move to |
| 13:36.33 | Agouti | so it is a move order? |
| 13:36.42 | soulcarver | i dont want it to be |
| 13:36.48 | soulcarver | but i guess it is a move order |
| 13:36.51 | soulcarver | it is trying to issue |
| 13:38.06 | Agouti | what is the exact error it is giving? |
| 13:38.25 | soulcarver | "no units can handle that command" |
| 13:38.38 | Agouti | that is a strange one |
| 13:38.48 | Agouti | normally they just run as close as possible |
| 13:38.49 | soulcarver | it is a move order basically |
| 13:38.52 | Agouti | and dance |
| 13:39.12 | soulcarver | well heres another issue |
| 13:39.18 | soulcarver | my launch missile effect |
| 13:39.21 | Agouti | is the ability itself a Move? |
| 13:39.24 | Agouti | it is important |
| 13:39.28 | soulcarver | doesnt start at the "z" position of the unit |
| 13:39.42 | Agouti | sounds like an attachment problem |
| 13:39.42 | soulcarver | yes it would be the defualt move ability |
| 13:39.56 | Agouti | I've never had that happen with a move ability |
| 13:40.01 | soulcarver | well |
| 13:40.03 | soulcarver | thats because |
| 13:40.07 | soulcarver | im clicking on the sky... |
| 13:41.46 | Agouti | well |
| 13:42.21 | Agouti | if you just want to change the error, you could change the text link |
| 13:42.36 | Agouti | e_cmdNotSupported |
| 13:42.53 | Agouti | but as for where it is actually generating the error... it could be a validator of some sort |
| 13:42.56 | Agouti | but I don't know |
| 13:43.17 | Agouti | e_cmdNotSupportedPlaceholder* |
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| 13:46.17 | soulcarver | where do i find that agouti? |
| 13:46.39 | Agouti | text |
| 13:46.53 | Agouti | the big A |
| 13:50.52 | soulcarver | so i have a launch missile effect but it isnt creating the missile at the "z" position of my unit.... my unit can move up and down on the "z" plane |
| 13:50.59 | Caz | Hmm what would cause a unit to be able to cast psi storm at range, while a building with the same ability cannot ? |
| 13:51.14 | soulcarver | CAZ.... Facing requirements |
| 13:51.20 | Caz | hmmmm |
| 13:51.20 | Agouti | sounds like an attachment problem still, soulcarver |
| 13:51.34 | soulcarver | launch missile doesnt seem to have an attachment... |
| 13:51.40 | Agouti | Ability - Arc |
| 13:51.58 | Agouti | it does soulcarver, that is how it knows where to launch it from |
| 13:52.02 | Agouti | it's in the attack actor |
| 13:52.08 | soulcarver | ah |
| 13:52.35 | Agouti | Well I should say Action (parent Generic Attack) |
| 13:53.02 | Caz | soulcarver, that sounds likely. I removed the only requirement that i know of (HT upgrade). Which Section would i find facing req's ? |
| 13:53.14 | Agouti | <Agouti> Ability - Arc |
| 13:53.42 | Caz | oh u were responding to me with that Agouti?.. apologies |
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| 13:53.53 | Agouti | :) |
| 13:54.02 | Rodrigo | this webchat just asked me to type a greek letter! |
| 13:54.03 | Rodrigo | wtf! |
| 13:54.12 | Caz | my arc is currently 0, guess i'll go for the money shot and try 360 ! |
| 13:54.21 | Rodrigo | I was like "how am I suppose to time this" |
| 13:54.21 | Agouti | that would be the go |
| 13:54.23 | Rodrigo | to type* |
| 13:54.47 | Agouti | you used to have to make sure the building was not marked as Turnable, as well |
| 13:54.52 | Agouti | I don't know if that still applies |
| 13:54.53 | Rodrigo | hey guyz |
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| 13:55.20 | soulcarver | hey agouti .... would is be the actor for the actual missile.... or for the effect.... |
| 13:55.41 | soulcarver | because I renamed the original effect with out creating a new actor and it still animates the ability |
| 13:55.59 | Agouti | it is the attack actor |
| 13:56.12 | Agouti | which is separate from the missile's unit actor |
| 13:56.29 | Agouti | It is the one where you set the Impact and Launch effects |
| 13:56.34 | soulcarver | ok... im working with the banshee "backlash" missiles |
| 13:56.42 | Caz | soulcarver / agouti .. Much appreciated, tower working as intended =) |
| 13:57.01 | soulcarver | and there are no "backlash" actors lol |
| 13:57.06 | Caz | i changed so many ranges filters and shit i was at wits end ... and it turns out ot be tower not being able to "look" at target ... lame ass tower ! >< |
| 13:57.15 | Agouti | there are tons of examples soulcarver |
| 13:57.22 | Agouti | for example I just typed missile in |
| 13:57.25 | Agouti | and the top result |
| 13:57.27 | Agouti | Actor NameSourceActor TypeParentDoodad Type |
| 13:57.27 | Agouti | DevastatorMissileAttack (Unnamed)Liberty.SC2CampaignActionGenericAttackNot Doodad |
| 13:57.35 | Agouti | is such an example |
| 13:58.33 | soulcarver | ok i think i found the one |
| 13:59.15 | Agouti | Actor NameSourceActor TypeParentDoodad Type |
| 13:59.15 | Agouti | ArenaTurretAttack (Unnamed)Liberty.SC2CampaignActionGenericAttackNot Doodad |
| 13:59.20 | Agouti | is a better example |
| 13:59.33 | Agouti | as it has the same launch attachment query as you will likely need |
| 13:59.43 | Agouti | i.e. FieldArenaTurretAttack (Unnamed) |
| 13:59.44 | Agouti | Attachment - Launch Attachment Query +AMFilterWeapon00:Center |
| 14:00.00 | Agouti | AMFilterWeapon00 exists on almost every unit |
| 14:00.25 | Agouti | at least, mobile unit |
| 14:00.31 | soulcarver | ok well the one im looking at here "bansheemissileattack" doesnt seem to have an attachment point set |
| 14:00.45 | soulcarver | dont see the launch attachment on it |
| 14:01.16 | Agouti | I don't see that |
| 14:01.17 | Rodrigo | do you guyz know when does eu mapnight start? |
| 14:01.28 | Agouti | however chances are you are looking at the unit actor for the missile |
| 14:01.32 | Agouti | not the attack actor |
| 14:01.51 | Agouti | make sure what you are looking at is of type Action with parent GenericAttack |
| 14:02.05 | Agouti | (nice if I didn't have to say that 4 times, but oh well) |
| 14:02.29 | Agouti | FieldBanshee Attack |
| 14:02.30 | Agouti | Attachment - Launch Attachment Query +AMPatternBanshee:Center |
| 14:06.50 | soulcarver | well im not using a banshee model |
| 14:06.55 | soulcarver | using wraith |
| 14:07.17 | Agouti | it would take me 5 seconds to find the appropriate actor for the launch |
| 14:07.23 | Agouti | as it would for you |
| 14:07.47 | Agouti | I've given you all the information you need to find it |
| 14:09.38 | soulcarver | yeah i should be on the correct one now |
| 14:10.54 | soulcarver | can you tell me why the "launch site" value "takes a unit" |
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| 14:19.29 | Agouti | I'm not sure soulcarver |
| 14:19.55 | soulcarver | do you know what the attach "method part is" |
| 14:20.27 | Agouti | there are no methods |
| 14:20.35 | Agouti | for action.genericattack |
| 14:21.41 | hawker | POR TIIIIII |
| 14:21.46 | hawker | VOLLLAAAARREEEE |
| 14:22.41 | Agouti | Oh, I see what you are asking |
| 14:22.54 | Agouti | the Method is the site op for the model |
| 14:23.05 | Agouti | just use the same one as the built in actor uses |
| 14:23.13 | hawker | where is mr. nash |
| 14:23.15 | hawker | :| |
| 14:24.45 | soulcarver | ok well if im using a different model then I prolly need a different action actor thing? |
| 14:24.54 | soulcarver | so confused rarely touch on this side of data |
| 14:25.01 | Agouti | what model are you using |
| 14:25.06 | soulcarver | wrait |
| 14:25.06 | Agouti | first you said banshee |
| 14:25.09 | soulcarver | wraith |
| 14:25.11 | Agouti | well then |
| 14:25.19 | soulcarver | its the banshee missile attack im using |
| 14:25.24 | Agouti | have you looked at the built in actors for wraith missiles |
| 14:25.26 | Agouti | ? |
| 14:25.32 | soulcarver | basically jsut duplicated the effect |
| 14:25.37 | Agouti | or wraith missile launches, I should say |
| 14:25.40 | Agouti | ? |
| 14:25.51 | soulcarver | ill go look at that |
| 14:26.03 | Agouti | Probably didn't need me to tell you to do that |
| 14:26.12 | Agouti | twice |
| 14:27.14 | soulcarver | i havent slept so I appreciate it |
| 14:27.28 | Agouti | perhaps that is a good starting point ;) |
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| 14:32.39 | Ashamed | tired.... |
| 14:33.04 | hawker | is so bored |
| 14:34.14 | Caz | pats hawker on the head |
| 14:34.21 | Rodrigo | i wanna watch eu map night. Can someone plz stream? |
| 14:34.22 | hawker | RAWR |
| 14:34.25 | Caz | That'll do donkey, that'll do |
| 14:34.59 | Caz | hawker, this channel always makes me facepalm when they point out my problem T_T |
| 14:34.59 | Ashamed | http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/4153/screenshot2011072200160.jpg?http://www.imageshack.us/ |
| 14:35.00 | Hobrow | Rodrigo |
| 14:35.05 | Hobrow | action will stream |
| 14:35.06 | Caz | so helpful, yet make me feel so small lol |
| 14:35.08 | Ashamed | only 2 more sections >< |
| 14:35.32 | hawker | so much of le facepalm |
| 14:35.37 | Ashamed | rodrigo where are you from? |
| 14:35.45 | hawker | You should be... |
| 14:35.47 | hawker | ASHAMED |
| 14:35.52 | Caz | lolol |
| 14:36.37 | Rodrigo | Ashamed, I'm from planet earth |
| 14:36.39 | Caz | thats a double whammy hawker... telling me to feel that way, and launching a beep at the person with that name needlessly |
| 14:37.04 | hawker | :S |
| 14:37.05 | Rodrigo | Hobrow, what's his stream channel |
| 14:37.19 | Hobrow | no idea |
| 14:37.37 | Rodrigo | ... |
| 14:37.47 | Rodrigo | when does the mapnight start? |
| 14:37.50 | Hobrow | but its still about 2 1/2 h until mapnight |
| 14:37.58 | hawker | ooops |
| 14:38.02 | hawker | accidently closed the chat |
| 14:38.04 | hawker | caz |
| 14:38.04 | Agouti | rodrigo is canadian. |
| 14:38.04 | hawker | :S |
| 14:38.07 | hawker | what was problem? |
| 14:38.18 | hawker | camadian |
| 14:38.19 | Rodrigo | i live in canada, but i aint canadian |
| 14:38.51 | Caz | the tutorial i was following failed to mention that towers don't turn. Instead of setting the Arc radius, he made his CASTING tower a non-structure unit. |
| 14:39.04 | Caz | SO my structure tower wouldnt cast with arc radius of 0 |
| 14:39.15 | Ashamed | oh i was just wodnering because of your accent >< |
| 14:39.32 | Rodrigo | is action here? can someone get his stream channel for me plz? |
| 14:39.37 | Rodrigo | :P |
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| 14:39.40 | Ashamed | NASH |
| 14:39.40 | hawker | not a canadian accent ashamed |
| 14:39.46 | Ashamed | yah |
| 14:39.52 | hawker | mr nash is afk |
| 14:40.01 | Rodrigo | it's definitely not a canadian accent :P |
| 14:40.02 | Ashamed | i figured he was EU.. lol not canadian |
| 14:40.07 | Ashamed | -.- where you from? |
| 14:40.15 | Hobrow | Rod it will be posted on the frontpage when map night starts |
| 14:40.15 | Rodrigo | i live in canada |
| 14:40.15 | Rodrigo | i am italian |
| 14:40.19 | Rodrigo | i am from brazil |
| 14:40.22 | Ashamed | lol |
| 14:40.30 | Ashamed | i have been to brazil twice |
| 14:40.39 | Ashamed | i am itailain too -.- |
| 14:40.45 | Rodrigo | kk |
| 14:40.46 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 14:40.47 | Ashamed | italian* |
| 14:41.07 | Ashamed | where you from in brazil? |
| 14:41.19 | Rodrigo | oh FUCK! |
| 14:41.23 | Hobrow | btw does anyone han an idea why a reaper would vanish when jumping up a cliff? |
| 14:41.28 | Rodrigo | I totally forgot I have a meeting today |
| 14:41.29 | Rodrigo | at school |
| 14:41.30 | Rodrigo | damn |
| 14:41.38 | Ashamed | school sucks |
| 14:41.50 | Hobrow | im done with school :D |
| 14:42.00 | Hobrow | now i have to bother with the university xD |
| 14:42.04 | Rodrigo | i signed up for an event: to collect raspberries on a farm |
| 14:42.08 | Rodrigo | i mean, college |
| 14:42.13 | Rodrigo | i call college school |
| 14:42.16 | Rodrigo | because it is a school |
| 14:42.39 | Rodrigo | definition of school: a place you learn |
| 14:43.18 | Hobrow | a place where teachers teach you |
| 14:43.19 | Rodrigo | oh |
| 14:43.21 | Rodrigo | the event is tomorrow. phew |
| 14:43.29 | Rodrigo | yeah |
| 14:43.35 | Rodrigo | teachers teach u at university |
| 14:43.39 | Rodrigo | so it's a school |
| 14:43.39 | Hobrow | nope |
| 14:43.45 | Rodrigo | i should add that on debates |
| 14:43.48 | Hobrow | they dont tecah you |
| 14:43.51 | Hobrow | teach* |
| 14:43.57 | Rodrigo | "universities are schools" |
| 14:44.04 | Hobrow | they tell you stuff once |
| 14:44.11 | Rodrigo | they do |
| 14:44.14 | hawker | which uni rodrigo? |
| 14:44.15 | hawker | if you don't mind me asking |
| 14:44.15 | Hobrow | they dont teach you how to |
| 14:44.17 | Rodrigo | they teach poorly, but they teach |
| 14:44.28 | Hobrow | basicly you teach yourself |
| 14:44.40 | Hobrow | with the info you've got |
| 14:44.48 | Rodrigo | all universities are schools. You teach yourself because the teacher is teaching you how you can teach yourself |
| 14:45.08 | Hobrow | you have good profs. then |
| 14:45.09 | Rodrigo | they are teaching this info |
| 14:45.12 | Clord | stating the obvious there lol |
| 14:45.39 | Clord | still... tons of teachers no matter of school can suck in their job |
| 14:45.51 | Rodrigo | i've learned from all my college professors, and therefore, they are teachers |
| 14:46.36 | Hobrow | are you sure you learned from them and not the books they sad yuld be usefull? |
| 14:46.37 | Rodrigo | now is life a teacher or a professor? |
| 14:46.38 | Rodrigo | hmmmm |
| 14:46.43 | Hobrow | would* |
| 14:46.48 | hawker | i think i may acquire terraria.... |
| 14:46.57 | hawker | And I know how much that interests all of you |
| 14:47.05 | Hobrow | xD |
| 14:47.08 | Rodrigo | well, they said it would be useful, so they are teaching about books being useful |
| 14:47.25 | Clord | too bad terria's maps are capped to all four directions lol |
| 14:47.31 | Clord | would make some awesome stuff to travel there |
| 14:47.40 | hawker | I don't really learn anything from being taught |
| 14:47.41 | hawker | Ever |
| 14:47.46 | hawker | I teach myself |
| 14:48.09 | hawker | perhaps I've never had the pleasure of being taught by a good teacher |
| 14:48.12 | Clord | it is matter of person really |
| 14:48.14 | Rodrigo | so I can't tell you teachers teach cause I'd be teaching you that, and you don't learn from being taught |
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| 14:49.03 | Rodrigo | my dog taught me how to be patient |
| 14:49.07 | soulcarver | anybody on US able to help me test something? |
| 14:49.46 | Hobrow | whatever I have triggers to fix for map night :P |
| 14:49.46 | Clord | for example besides very basic stuff... my English is pretty much self taught... unless you can call movies, internet, etc as "teachers" ;) |
| 14:50.19 | Rodrigo | i had good english teachers, although most of it is self taught |
| 14:50.24 | soulcarver | need some testers |
| 14:50.35 | Clord | hehe... it happens often with various languages |
| 14:50.49 | Rodrigo | soulcarver, inv people on the public chat channels, I always get people doing that :P |
| 14:50.50 | Clord | usually those who are good with languages.... have mostly self taught themeselves |
| 14:51.10 | Clord | and it feels more rewarding :) |
| 14:51.34 | Clord | way more rewarding way to do things when there is not another person bugging all to time |
| 14:51.52 | Rodrigo | i dont know. It's good to know someone helped you to learn with love |
| 14:52.00 | Hobrow | youre so right clorsd |
| 14:52.02 | Hobrow | -s |
| 14:52.17 | Rodrigo | I'd rather see everyone helping each other than everyone self taught and alone |
| 14:52.43 | Hobrow | it still feels more rewarding if you learned something yourself |
| 14:53.23 | Rodrigo | No, it feels more rewarding when you learned something with someone, and this makes you also teach something to this same one |
| 14:53.29 | Clord | studying languages has became my hobby.... XD reviewing all those thousands of words Japanese is truly pleasure |
| 14:53.43 | Clord | lol |
| 14:53.45 | Hobrow | xD |
| 14:53.48 | Hobrow | Clord |
| 14:53.51 | hawker | Rodrigo, different people might find different things rewarding... |
| 14:53.51 | hawker | :P |
| 14:54.00 | Hobrow | youre a bit crazy no? ^^ |
| 14:54.02 | Rodrigo | true |
| 14:54.31 | Rodrigo | who |
| 14:55.20 | Clord | Hobrow... I have advantage really in there.... as guy who has born in Finland, I can spell japanese words way easier than english ones.... also Japanese is simpler language overall than Finnish or especially Chinese (traditional or not) |
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| 14:55.58 | Hobrow | different ppl like different things ^^ |
| 14:57.13 | Clord | reminds of TMNT movies |
| 14:57.45 | Rodrigo | i wanna go watch harry potter today |
| 14:57.55 | Rodrigo | havent watched yet |
| 14:58.15 | Clord | I still can't get their spells that seriously... I mean Harry Potter uses noob spells still |
| 14:58.16 | Rodrigo | i'm trying to scape from starcraft |
| 14:58.21 | Rodrigo | escape* |
| 14:58.57 | Rodrigo | its funny, he keeps fighting the bad guyz with the worst spells ever |
| 14:59.14 | Rodrigo | the spells that has the effect of a punch |
| 14:59.18 | Rodrigo | have* |
| 14:59.28 | Clord | but there is that canonical excuse why they combat with those weak spells instead with guns etc.... something about how in their magical word, machines etc don't work right if they are brought from human world |
| 14:59.59 | Rodrigo | then at least use a proper spell |
| 15:00.10 | tampa1adam | Yeah I wouldnt mind if Hermoine threw a grenade or two in each movie |
| 15:00.12 | Rodrigo | those nuke spells |
| 15:00.15 | Rodrigo | that explodes everything |
| 15:00.32 | Rodrigo | "nuclear launchiarmus!" |
| 15:00.47 | tampa1adam | "Launch Feedback" |
| 15:01.02 | Clord | then there is that actually effective and fast to use kill spell but Harry Potter refuses to use it because it is against the law.... while Voldermont basically would not mind to use it against him....... main characters are typically stupid in fictions |
| 15:01.03 | hawker | Thank God EW locked the pony thread |
| 15:01.09 | hawker | The scourge must not escape |
| 15:01.43 | Rodrigo | Clord, they have to be stupid because you don't beat evil by doing evil |
| 15:01.50 | Rodrigo | that's why most of the movies, the bad guy dies by accident |
| 15:01.52 | tampa1adam | u guys seen Emaa's Twatson? |
| 15:02.38 | Clord | hehe... like in Freddy movies.... >_> main character only realizes to fight back basically after everyone else is dead |
| 15:02.50 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 15:02.52 | Rodrigo | freddy wong? |
| 15:03.07 | Clord | Nightmare on Elm Street movies |
| 15:03.18 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 15:03.37 | Clord | Freddy Kruegel btw is newest DLC for Mortal Kombat game |
| 15:03.38 | Rodrigo | always, the bad guyz die by accident or through his own evil actions |
| 15:03.43 | Clord | but I don't own consoles other than handhelds |
| 15:03.49 | hawker | nooo |
| 15:03.55 | hawker | the post count thread is past first page |
| 15:03.55 | Rodrigo | to "teach" that evil does not end evil |
| 15:03.57 | hawker | :| |
| 15:04.43 | Clord | yeah like in Death Note.... manga and anime versions lol... "hey I'm genius, I go to this meeting place without being armed and hope my plan works!" XD |
| 15:05.02 | Clord | "and noooo... I don't want use that kevlar vest to increase my chances!" |
| 15:05.04 | Clord | XD |
| 15:05.10 | Rodrigo | :P |
| 15:05.13 | Rodrigo | talking about anime |
| 15:05.29 | Rodrigo | i gotta watch the latest episode of saint seya lost canvas |
| 15:05.50 | Rodrigo | i love that anime |
| 15:06.26 | Rodrigo | it's my third favorite |
| 15:06.29 | Rodrigo | 1st: dragonball Z |
| 15:06.35 | Rodrigo | 2nd: Avatar |
| 15:06.36 | Clord | speaking of anime.. Crunchyroll has that one new anime series but somehow some people decided that it was smart move to delay each episode with week instead of hour from airing in japanese television |
| 15:06.38 | Rodrigo | 3rd: Saint Seya |
| 15:07.20 | Rodrigo | hmm |
| 15:07.28 | Clord | there is few non japanese cartoons too what rocks like |
| 15:07.38 | Clord | avatar the last airbender.. has over 9/10 in IMDB score |
| 15:07.40 | Rodrigo | did u wath the last airbender (anime, not that shitty movie) |
| 15:07.40 | Clord | XD |
| 15:07.55 | Rodrigo | the movie sucks so much that destroyed the cartoon |
| 15:08.05 | Rodrigo | but the cartoon is just awesome |
| 15:08.07 | Clord | hehe yeah |
| 15:08.21 | Rodrigo | every episode I watched, I was like O.o "wow" |
| 15:08.24 | Clord | it is also weird how asian style characters turned to be non asian |
| 15:08.35 | Rodrigo | that giant turtle lion was just awesome |
| 15:08.49 | Rodrigo | did u pay attention what he said? |
| 15:09.15 | Rodrigo | was something about the pure heart being able to receive the poison and not be poisonous because of the purity |
| 15:09.28 | Rodrigo | and he was trying to say that he could absorb his evil powers |
| 15:09.34 | Clord | besides final battle what could have been way better but that series was quite funny XD being made by americans |
| 15:09.40 | Rodrigo | I was like *__* |
| 15:09.58 | Clord | that line is hardly confusing |
| 15:10.00 | Clord | lol |
| 15:10.01 | Rodrigo | yeah, it was rushed cause nickelodion didn't want the series anymore |
| 15:10.12 | Rodrigo | so they skip the book of fire :( |
| 15:11.05 | Rodrigo | i love how it shows aang's psychological conflicts |
| 15:11.08 | Rodrigo | it's so well don |
| 15:11.37 | Rodrigo | good music, good movements, good history, good philosophy |
| 15:11.43 | Rodrigo | story* |
| 15:12.07 | Rodrigo | I just wish they had done as they planned |
| 15:12.08 | Rodrigo | all the 4 books |
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| 15:12.50 | burne- | where did I change the minimap "icoN" like the circle to something else |
| 15:13.12 | burne- | i dont wana display a huge ass icon just something that can be regodniced as hero |
| 15:13.48 | Rodrigo | search for minimap on the trigger actions |
| 15:13.50 | Rodrigo | i dont remember the name |
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| 15:13.53 | Rodrigo | but there is one |
| 15:14.46 | burne- | hmm |
| 15:14.53 | burne- | I think there was something in data editor too |
| 15:14.57 | burne- | sut cant quite remember it |
| 15:15.29 | Rodrigo | on the data editor u can change the size of the square |
| 15:15.38 | Rodrigo | just search for "minimap" on the unit |
| 15:15.50 | burne- | I did |
| 15:15.54 | burne- | but found nothing than the size |
| 15:16.10 | Rodrigo | it shows only 1 field |
| 15:16.11 | Rodrigo | which is the size |
| 15:16.17 | burne- | yup |
| 15:16.32 | Rodrigo | its not the size you want? |
| 15:16.42 | burne- | i want different image |
| 15:16.48 | burne- | like kerrigan has weird monster face |
| 15:16.51 | burne- | on minimap |
| 15:17.17 | Rodrigo | i've done using triggers, but if it is possible with the editor, you can search on the unit model |
| 15:17.59 | burne- | cant find anything but no big deal |
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| 15:19.04 | Rodrigo | do by triggers then |
| 15:19.14 | Rodrigo | change minimap icon trigger |
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| 15:36.40 | Rodrigo | i laughed with this video summarizing all movies of harry potter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3AdfZ346wg |
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| 15:46.40 | Agouti | http://i.imgur.com/ZbesU.jpg |
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| 15:53.45 | Nash|327 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/23804-karass-and-model-addition/#p1 |
| 15:56.20 | JademusSreg | pew pew |
| 15:57.28 | Agouti | so nash |
| 15:58.00 | Agouti | you just want to attach a model actor to the Karazz actor? |
| 15:58.03 | Agouti | er |
| 15:58.11 | Agouti | Karass |
| 15:58.21 | Agouti | Nash|327, BEEP |
| 15:58.32 | Nash|327 | yes, but it doesn't seem to like it |
| 15:58.38 | Agouti | k |
| 15:58.41 | Agouti | I can try that here |
| 16:00.26 | Nash|327 | I'm starting to suspect it's related to HT model and how it has that shadow trail. |
| 16:01.22 | Agouti | I don't see how myself |
| 16:03.03 | Agouti | high templar uses slightly strange refs it seems |
| 16:03.55 | Agouti | or not |
| 16:04.13 | Agouti | I'm not having any problems attaching an actor to HT: ref_center |
| 16:04.38 | Nash|327 | SOpAttachCenter? |
| 16:05.10 | Agouti | just let me try it in game |
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| 16:10.21 | SentryIII | omg qxc |
| 16:11.52 | Agouti | SentryIII, this is a mapping channel, not league fanboy channel |
| 16:13.21 | Agouti | weird, attachcenter SHOULD work |
| 16:13.36 | Agouti | I'm positive I've had missile launches attached to center before |
| 16:14.43 | Agouti | oh, I just did something silly |
| 16:15.04 | Agouti | no, sopattachcenter is working fine |
| 16:15.35 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 16:16.02 | Nash|327 | ModelAddition? |
| 16:16.17 | Agouti | I just used whatever came to hand |
| 16:16.17 | Agouti | er |
| 16:16.24 | Agouti | carrysandbagnode |
| 16:16.38 | Agouti | which is cActorBase |
| 16:16.45 | Agouti | er |
| 16:16.47 | Agouti | sorry |
| 16:16.55 | Agouti | model animation style continuous |
| 16:17.17 | Nash|327 | Might be a ModellAddition oddity. |
| 16:17.47 | Agouti | is there a modelAddition that I can easily test with? |
| 16:18.25 | Nash|327 | hm |
| 16:18.37 | Agouti | found one |
| 16:20.11 | Agouti | sorry to say appears to be problem free |
| 16:20.18 | Agouti | just took the biostasisblob |
| 16:20.28 | Agouti | added an event for unit birth, karass, editor |
| 16:20.34 | Agouti | placed model and it's attached |
| 16:20.41 | Agouti | unit* |
| 16:21.29 | Vailreth | ivd had odd scaleing issues when attaching actors like this ...could it be a scale problem? |
| 16:22.03 | Nash|327 | well it's just one hero that's affected |
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| 16:22.52 | Vailreth | did you scale karass' actor at all? |
| 16:22.59 | Nash|327 | yes |
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| 16:23.07 | Vailreth | up or down? |
| 16:23.23 | Nash|327 | up |
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| 16:24.09 | Vailreth | it may be possible that the additional actor is drawing but is too small... |
| 16:24.24 | Agouti | side question - anybody know of any good models around for a bit of wood? |
| 16:24.30 | LordAbyss | ~seen Eiviyn |
| 16:24.34 | purl | eiviyn <5868bbb7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.104.187.183> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 245d 19h 34m 6s ago, saying: 'Does catalyst come up if you search for taco cannon?'. |
| 16:24.34 | Agouti | doesn't matter if it's a little log or planks |
| 16:24.54 | Nash|327 | there's a doodad :G |
| 16:25.00 | Vailreth | maybe try an actor creation event that validates the unit as your hero and tune the scaling? |
| 16:25.14 | Nash|327 | log doodads |
| 16:26.45 | Agouti | I can't seem to find it |
| 16:27.09 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 16:27.29 | Agouti | :s |
| 16:27.45 | Nash|327 | brb arcane doodad majicks |
| 16:28.02 | Agouti | never mind |
| 16:28.10 | Agouti | founds something that will do |
| 16:28.47 | Nash|327 | Underbrush |
| 16:28.54 | Nash|327 | various settings |
| 16:29.00 | Agouti | ya |
| 16:29.02 | Nash|327 | tree stumps and logs |
| 16:30.08 | Nash|327 | hmm... |
| 16:30.13 | Nash|327 | all my heroes are scaled |
| 16:30.18 | Nash|327 | the model is scaled |
| 16:30.25 | Nash|327 | yet only Karass is affected |
| 16:30.26 | Agouti | I can't imagine it being the issue |
| 16:32.37 | Agouti | haha the workers look cute carrying around bits of wood |
| 16:32.39 | Agouti | love it |
| 16:32.48 | Nash|327 | zug zug |
| 16:33.01 | Agouti | hmmm |
| 16:33.10 | Agouti | now just need to work out how to rotate it |
| 16:33.26 | Nash|327 | rotation site op |
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| 16:39.27 | Frostwind | is sooooooooooooo bored |
| 16:39.27 | ducky | hello |
| 16:39.45 | ducky | dear mapping channel, anyone wants to test some bomberman with me? |
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| 16:40.35 | Nash|327 | map night in 20 minutes |
| 16:40.57 | Nash|327 | in a hurry? :G? |
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| 16:41.54 | ducky | well, seing how usually in every pllaytest i find some fatal bug which makes further playing impossible.. I would want not to embarass myself before crowd :D |
| 16:42.07 | ducky | and take precious map night time |
| 16:42.21 | JademusSreg | NA here. |
| 16:43.08 | Frostwind | is very bored due to being unable to work on his project due to a problem with an animation |
| 16:43.16 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 16:43.53 | JademusSreg | Edit the model, assign animations to anim groups, use actor events to set the anim groups. |
| 16:43.56 | Caz | Anyone know how to get range of weapon to show up during placement ? |
| 16:44.06 | Nash|327 | maybe it's just me |
| 16:44.10 | JademusSreg | Actor events, Caz. |
| 16:44.14 | Vailreth | Nash are you still having trouble with your siteop? |
| 16:44.18 | Nash|327 | but when people ask for their map to be tested |
| 16:44.21 | JademusSreg | I forget which one though. |
| 16:44.25 | Nash|327 | I understand there may be bugs |
| 16:44.36 | Caz | JademusSreg i'll ignore it for now and go digging later then.. never opened the events+ |
| 16:44.40 | Caz | Tks ) |
| 16:44.50 | Frostwind | ooooo the boredom |
| 16:44.50 | Nash|327 | and being able to test stuff, isn't that part of the point of map night? |
| 16:44.52 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 16:45.13 | Nash|327 | Vailreth: I got no trouble with siteops |
| 16:45.35 | Vailreth | sorry i mean the model that dosent want to show on Karass |
| 16:45.50 | Nash|327 | Well I haven't changed anything, so yes. |
| 16:46.06 | Vailreth | try the SopAttachCenterSoft? |
| 16:46.28 | Vailreth | center wouldnt work on the ghost model so i tried center soft...and it worked |
| 16:46.36 | Nash|327 | not right now |
| 16:46.51 | Nash|327 | but I'll write it down |
| 16:46.56 | Vailreth | ok. |
| 16:48.38 | Vailreth | i am testing to see of center soft breaks for other models |
| 16:49.53 | Vailreth | nope looks good so far. |
| 16:52.48 | tampa1adam | lol |
| 16:53.16 | Hobrow | www.livestream.com/sc2mmn_ |
| 16:53.19 | Hobrow | mapnight stream |
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| 16:57.25 | Frostwind | is very bored due to being unable to work on his project due to a problem with an animation |
| 16:58.21 | tampa1adam | sounds like a personal problem |
| 16:59.17 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 17:01.19 | Vailreth | ? |
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| 17:19.43 | tampa1adam | is the font size for a dialog labal item bugged? When I change the size it doesnt actually change |
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| 17:25.01 | Frostwind | yawns from boredom |
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| 17:32.12 | Frostwind | is very bored due to being unable to work on his project due to a problem with an animation |
| 17:33.00 | tampa1adam | why dont u just scratch the animation and move on |
| 17:33.27 | Frostwind | I can't as its part of the combat system |
| 17:34.49 | tampa1adam | l2 3ds max |
| 17:35.49 | Frostwind | I've tried to. I've spent hours and can't even figure out how to make a damn ball |
| 17:37.23 | tampa1adam | you can always help me with my map |
| 17:38.08 | Frostwind | No |
| 17:38.34 | Frostwind | unless I can work on my project then you can forget me helping with another project |
| 17:39.09 | tampa1adam | have u tried calling blizzard tech support |
| 17:40.56 | Caz | Anyone know the name of the burrowed spine crawler model ? |
| 17:42.17 | Caz | or is it just the normal model sunk into the ground with burrow lol |
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| 17:43.19 | tampa1adam | SpineCrawler.m3 |
| 17:43.42 | tampa1adam | burrow is the 18th animation sequence |
| 17:44.14 | Frostwind | yawns from boredom |
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| 17:53.29 | Mexa|Tee | So |
| 17:53.37 | Mexa|Tee | wtf just happend in Oslo D:? |
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| 17:59.01 | Mexa|Tee | D: http://www.sydsvenskan.se/varlden/article1515942/Bildextra-Stor-explosion-i-Oslo.html |
| 18:00.13 | slightlyrandom | Couple of bombs |
| 18:00.25 | slightlyrandom | And, a guy goes nuts with a rifle on a nearby island |
| 18:01.28 | Mexa|Tee | mmm |
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| 18:26.06 | Vailreth | hey Xan |
| 18:27.18 | Xan | hey |
| 18:29.07 | Mexa|Tee | dinnarg |
| 18:29.25 | Vailreth | dinnarg? |
| 18:31.09 | Mexa|Tee | dinner time |
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| 18:31.20 | Vailreth | ah |
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| 18:41.07 | Caz | Getting a weird effect with my map assuming there are 2 players on team 1, when there is only 1. |
| 18:41.20 | Caz | During test mode form editor it assumes 1, assumes 2 (number of slots) for online play |
| 18:41.42 | Currydevil | do you have any player 2 units anywhere? |
| 18:41.54 | Caz | hm |
| 18:41.55 | Caz | Let me check! |
| 18:43.23 | Caz | nope just 2 beacons owned by neutral |
| 18:43.45 | Currydevil | mk, do you still have it set in player properties for user control of player 2? |
| 18:44.03 | Caz | Player1 user, Player2 user, 14 Computer |
| 18:44.10 | Currydevil | that's why |
| 18:44.15 | Caz | oh? |
| 18:44.19 | Currydevil | it's etting up the lobby for all available users |
| 18:44.34 | Currydevil | if you set up multiple users, it creates that many player slots |
| 18:44.48 | Caz | I want 2 player slots |
| 18:44.59 | Caz | My game generates 1 builder unit per player |
| 18:45.00 | Currydevil | ok, but you don't want them both on team 1? |
| 18:45.17 | Caz | its generating 2 builders even though only 1 guy is in game |
| 18:46.00 | Currydevil | you have to create different teams if you want them seperate. |
| 18:46.22 | Caz | i dont want seperate teams i just want it to make 1 builder, per player in game |
| 18:46.29 | Currydevil | ah |
| 18:46.31 | Currydevil | I see now |
| 18:46.35 | Caz | Pick Player in Player Group (Player Group From Team (1) ) { Create builder } |
| 18:47.03 | Currydevil | hmmm |
| 18:48.00 | Currydevil | can you copy/paste the whole trigger onto pastebin for me? |
| 18:48.07 | Currydevil | copy as text* |
| 18:50.10 | Currydevil | you should probably just set it to pick active players. |
| 18:50.26 | Caz | paste like this? http://pastebin.com/uv8P1Zwn |
| 18:50.45 | Caz | Also this was working a couple days ago |
| 18:50.48 | Caz | it recently broke |
| 18:51.05 | Currydevil | hm |
| 18:51.20 | Caz | unless i 'forgot' to test it MYSELF online |
| 18:51.54 | Caz | while u look im checking active players |
| 18:52.00 | Currydevil | ok |
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| 18:59.40 | Caz | only produced 1 with active players... but i seriously want to find out why playersOnTeam returned a group of 2 |
| 18:59.44 | Caz | with only 1 player joined in team |
| 19:00.30 | Currydevil | hmm |
| 19:02.07 | Caz | i'll do a test later to list all units owned by player 2 at start |
| 19:02.17 | Caz | to make sure there's not some weird beacon or something hidden |
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| 19:04.01 | Caz | Well while that is at least solved (regardless of my still being puzzled over playersOnTeam)... |
| 19:04.10 | Currydevil | lol |
| 19:04.32 | Caz | Do you know of a good way to deal with units losing their issued movement orders during a TD wave |
| 19:04.56 | Caz | When they get interrupted in their movement they break order and star idleing or attacking the probe/towers |
| 19:05.02 | Caz | start* |
| 19:05.38 | Clord | my map can crash other maps.... lol... appeared after I removed all depencies from some mod files |
| 19:05.39 | Currydevil | reissue |
| 19:06.05 | Caz | how would i know if they need to be reissued... or which order they need to be issued for that matter :x |
| 19:06.38 | Caz | In the full map size there are like 26 turns |
| 19:06.41 | Currydevil | you could set up a region betwen each point |
| 19:06.49 | Currydevil | and reissue orders in each region to move to the next point |
| 19:07.10 | Currydevil | are there going to be flying units? |
| 19:07.16 | Wiz10011 | set up the whole pathing point broken up at every joint with regions and if they idle within a region they get the order to move. |
| 19:07.21 | Clord | (my map has been crashing other popular maps if they play another map after my map, it can even crash ladder match) |
| 19:07.26 | Caz | not yet.. they were broken when i tried ot use them |
| 19:07.33 | Caz | didnt go anywhere they were suppose to half the time |
| 19:10.12 | Caz | As far as attacking, i can turn auto-attack off on ai right ? |
| 19:10.18 | Caz | then i can just worry about idle |
| 19:10.24 | Wiz10011 | that or remove the attack from the mobs. |
| 19:10.31 | Caz | Well i want to be able to issue an attack |
| 19:10.39 | Caz | but not let them engage without my say-so ! |
| 19:10.58 | Caz | i only admire mindless idiot waves waiting on my every whim |
| 19:11.21 | Wiz10011 | then yea, remove auto attack AI or prevent them from going idle. |
| 19:11.48 | Caz | prevent them from going idle? |
| 19:12.03 | Caz | was that a general concept or a simple task |
| 19:12.27 | Currydevil | you could give them a buff that disables attack, then remove th buff when you want them to attack |
| 19:12.29 | Wiz10011 | well you can do what i suggest before, set up the whole pathing with regions with it broken up at joints. make a trigger to issue the move order if they idle. |
| 19:12.51 | Caz | ah that |
| 19:13.12 | Wiz10011 | that's a possibility. Im a novice when it comes to the editor though. |
| 19:13.49 | Caz | Curry i like the buff idea but i wont know how to do a buff for a few more days :x ... Can i flat out disable auto attacking off the data ? |
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| 19:14.07 | adgadgadg | vail are you here? |
| 19:14.25 | adgadgadg | damn |
| 19:14.35 | Currydevil | buff is easy xD. not sure about the auto acquiring target. i'm sure you can. |
| 19:14.52 | adgadgadg | im about to do some advanced stuff here |
| 19:14.52 | Currydevil | just use issue order move instead of attack move |
| 19:15.06 | Currydevil | then if you need them to attack you can use attack move |
| 19:16.11 | Currydevil | of course, if they idle, then they attack .. so i see the problem. |
| 19:17.40 | Caz | ya |
| 19:18.04 | Caz | without turning auto attack off i have to check for units that are idle and units that are attacking owned by ComputerPlayer |
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| 19:18.29 | Caz | Actually |
| 19:18.39 | Caz | units wont attack an invulnerable unit right ? |
| 19:18.46 | Currydevil | right |
| 19:18.58 | Caz | i'll just set towers invulnerable (when i figure out where thats at) XD |
| 19:19.08 | Currydevil | flags on the unit |
| 19:19.12 | Caz | kwl beans |
| 19:19.29 | Caz | i actually do know where thats at. *world faints* |
| 19:19.33 | Currydevil | Unit - Flags specifically |
| 19:19.40 | Currydevil | lol |
| 19:20.56 | Caz | i was scimping by with changing collision flags and keeping units spawning to 1 per second.... then i fucked myself with fungal growth tower and i went back to idle/atk units lol |
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| 19:21.26 | Caz | i'd say fungal is one hell of a movement interruption :x |
| 19:21.46 | Currydevil | lol |
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| 19:28.51 | tampa1adam | http://www.umk3.net/images/portrait/classic_sub_zero.gif |
| 19:32.48 | Currydevil | Yay, another problem to solve! |
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| 19:45.53 | adgadgadg | guys how do u work the no fly zones i dont understand them |
| 19:46.18 | Xan | what do you mean? |
| 19:46.26 | adgadgadg | how do u make cliffs no flying zones |
| 19:46.27 | adgadgadg | like i place it |
| 19:46.30 | adgadgadg | but idk how it works |
| 19:46.39 | adgadgadg | it says no fly zone cliff 001 |
| 19:46.41 | adgadgadg | but like |
| 19:46.44 | Xan | just place it, then flying units can't fly over them |
| 19:46.49 | adgadgadg | ok |
| 19:46.58 | Xan | double click then you can change radius etc |
| 19:46.59 | adgadgadg | but i have to place a shitload then |
| 19:47.06 | adgadgadg | yea i wish it was squareable |
| 19:47.12 | adgadgadg | or just like regular pathing placement |
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| 20:05.05 | Wiz10011 | So guys, who exactly is Sixen? (I know he's the MVP on the SC2 forums, and I believe he was a founder of SC2mapster,) |
| 20:05.23 | Xaragoth | Sixen |
| 20:05.28 | Xaragoth | Wake up, lazy bummer. |
| 20:05.43 | Xaragoth | He's basically the Curse guy for Mapster though. |
| 20:06.03 | Sixen | Well, I am exactly what you said :P |
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| 20:06.11 | Sixen | Bnet MVP and the big boss at Mapster |
| 20:06.39 | Wiz10011 | I see. So they invited you to blizzHQ for the HoTS interview because you're the head of Sc2mapsters? |
| 20:06.52 | Sixen | Yup |
| 20:06.56 | Wiz10011 | Cool. |
| 20:07.41 | Wiz10011 | did you play any other blizzard games? I think i recongize your name from somewhere else besides SC2, (Sorry if the previous comment sound doucheish, not my intent) |
| 20:07.55 | Sixen | I play all the Blizzard games :P. I also run a Diablo3 fansite, diablofans.com |
| 20:08.46 | Wiz10011 | It was probably either wow forums or the old battle.net forums where i recongize the name. |
| 20:09.15 | Sixen | I post on both the WoW Forums and the Legacy forums hehe |
| 20:09.30 | Wiz10011 | anyway, Just want to say thank you for putting together Sc2mapster, and Sc2replayed |
| 20:09.41 | Sixen | No prob ;) |
| 20:10.29 | Kueken | uh Sixen talks |
| 20:10.36 | Kueken | rare moment, boys |
| 20:10.39 | Kueken | keep it in mind ;) |
| 20:10.47 | Sixen | I'm always watching. Usuall. |
| 20:10.55 | Kueken | :-* |
| 20:18.12 | Xaragoth | You just gotta be special to make him talk. |
| 20:18.20 | Xaragoth | Or give him cake and sexy ladies. or sexy ladies in cake. |
| 20:18.22 | Xaragoth | both works. |
| 20:18.28 | Sixen | :) |
| 20:18.29 | Mexa|Tee | Sixen is our own monster vs predator thing. |
| 20:18.55 | Mexa|Tee | or isn't mvp = monster vs player? |
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| 20:19.25 | Mexa|Tee | I don't know what it's abbrivated for.. |
| 20:19.27 | Xaragoth | most violent (actually valuable) player :P |
| 20:19.30 | Mexa|Tee | on the forums. |
| 20:19.39 | Mexa|Tee | lol |
| 20:19.53 | TheSkunk_ | Most Vauable Poster, in the case of the forums |
| 20:19.56 | Sixen | ;p |
| 20:19.57 | Mexa|Tee | Violent will due :p |
| 20:20.03 | TheSkunk_ | Vualuable* |
| 20:20.06 | TheSkunk_ | yeah |
| 20:20.10 | Sixen | Valuable* |
| 20:20.23 | TheSkunk_ | Yeah, Sorry |
| 20:20.46 | Xaragoth | vulnerable |
| 20:20.47 | Xaragoth | o/ |
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| 20:21.47 | Mexa|Tee | good good :d |
| 20:25.32 | XorioZ | had a look at the work Wind has done on his project. actually quite impressive. |
| 20:27.11 | TheSkunk_ | What project? |
| 20:27.32 | XorioZ | well the one he needs attack / walk animations on. |
| 20:28.02 | XorioZ | he showed me the stuff he has made so far via live stream. |
| 20:28.32 | adgadgadg | wow the ai kinda freaked me out a bit |
| 20:28.44 | adgadgadg | i didnt know they programmed it to act good and talk |
| 20:28.56 | adgadgadg | the thing almost beat me at my own modded map i was like wtf |
| 20:29.47 | slightlyrandom | Does it say stuff other than "gg" ? |
| 20:29.55 | XorioZ | hehe. just faound soem of my old music projects on my hard-drive. funny how stuff you made a long time ago suddenly sounds better. |
| 20:30.19 | XorioZ | perhaps i should release the music. |
| 20:30.46 | adgadgadg | no when it said gg i was like wtf was i playing a real person |
| 20:31.11 | adgadgadg | hey is there a way to add ingame music to this? |
| 20:31.20 | adgadgadg | like i want to add the hell march from C&C |
| 20:31.28 | adgadgadg | but idk how |
| 20:35.50 | Clord | welcome to copyright world... according to publishing rules, it is no no |
| 20:35.51 | Clord | XD |
| 20:36.07 | Clord | then again as long your map is not super popular they don't bother to react to reports |
| 20:36.40 | adgadgadg | what would happen if it did get popular with copyrighted music? |
| 20:36.41 | XorioZ | damnit. i'm gonna release my music to the general public. any idea on how to do this. free of course. |
| 20:36.46 | adgadgadg | could i just remove it? |
| 20:37.00 | adgadgadg | or would i get sued or something? |
| 20:37.29 | XorioZ | is there any site out there where i can host mp3's legally? |
| 20:37.54 | adgadgadg | youtube lol |
| 20:38.03 | XorioZ | not youtube. |
| 20:38.13 | adgadgadg | so how do i add music to meh map? |
| 20:41.37 | Wiz10011 | have there been any updates about that one trigger to play different map after the current one? (last I heard it wasn't fully implemented) |
| 20:43.35 | TheSkunk_ | Count down stops when someone leaves the lobby now =o |
| 20:43.56 | Kueken | yay -.- another "fix" which should not be necessary |
| 20:44.16 | Wiz10011 | cant be helped if people disconnect during the countdown. |
| 20:45.20 | adgadgadg | guys how do u import sounds to sc2? |
| 20:45.34 | Kueken | import editor and put it in |
| 20:45.42 | Kueken | how long is your file? |
| 20:45.43 | XorioZ | damnit. i have to convert my music to videos. |
| 20:45.50 | Wiz10011 | Haven't tried sounds before, but did you try the Importer? (f9) |
| 20:46.07 | adgadgadg | 2659 kb? |
| 20:46.11 | Kueken | if the sound is too long, it won't work on import |
| 20:46.24 | Kueken | dunno where the limit is |
| 20:46.35 | adgadgadg | my importer only lets me import from the sc2 folder |
| 20:46.37 | adgadgadg | ... |
| 20:46.39 | Kueken | splitting into 1 minute pieces worked, iirc |
| 20:46.41 | Wiz10011 | Anyway, What I meant before was the action - Set Next map. not trigger. |
| 20:46.50 | Wiz10011 | Adgadgadg you can change that |
| 20:47.03 | adgadgadg | how |
| 20:47.18 | Wiz10011 | Hit Browse to the right of Directory. |
| 20:48.03 | Wiz10011 | Found it? |
| 20:49.07 | adgadgadg | i already found it |
| 20:49.08 | adgadgadg | nvm |
| 20:49.17 | Wiz10011 | Okay, |
| 20:54.03 | adgadgadg | k so ive imported it |
| 20:54.08 | adgadgadg | but now how do i make it a sound? |
| 20:54.30 | adgadgadg | it says its mp3 |
| 20:56.38 | adgadgadg | hello? |
| 20:56.43 | adgadgadg | how do i get it to a sound |
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| 20:58.40 | adgadgadg | dude |
| 20:58.43 | adgadgadg | is any1 here? |
| 20:59.00 | Dustin | nopr |
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| 21:04.47 | Vexal | hello. |
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| 21:12.12 | phoenix7700 | yo |
| 21:14.50 | Wiz10011 | Who here knows computer hardware? |
| 21:15.12 | Wiz10011 | speifcially routers. |
| 21:15.26 | Dustin | This guy |
| 21:15.44 | Wiz10011 | Dont mock me Dustin Browser! |
| 21:15.55 | Dustin | Im not |
| 21:17.18 | phoenix7700 | what u want to know? |
| 21:18.10 | phoenix7700 | i guess nothing? |
| 21:18.47 | Wiz10011 | I had a problem, but I figured it out.. |
| 21:18.57 | phoenix7700 | k |
| 21:19.21 | Wiz10011 | Anyway, Adgadgadg, did you try using a trigger to play the sound file? |
| 21:22.13 | Helral|Afk | meow |
| 21:22.20 | phoenix7700 | oh noes |
| 21:22.28 | phoenix7700 | i dont have any kittuns for you |
| 21:23.03 | Vexal | i once had a problem |
| 21:23.06 | Vexal | i didn't figure it out |
| 21:23.13 | phoenix7700 | then you did? |
| 21:23.30 | Vexal | yeah |
| 21:23.36 | phoenix7700 | nice |
| 21:23.45 | adgadgadg | wiz i cant becuase i cant find the sound file |
| 21:23.46 | phoenix7700 | high-fives Vexal |
| 21:23.52 | adgadgadg | idk how |
| 21:23.56 | adgadgadg | im gona go play some multiplayer then going to meh cabin |
| 21:24.23 | Dustin | Im gonna go donate plasma then get drunk as fuck |
| 21:24.34 | phoenix7700 | lol |
| 21:25.58 | phoenix7700 | hey Helral, thanks for your help the other day |
| 21:26.06 | phoenix7700 | if i didn't already tell you that |
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| 21:27.05 | Helral|Afk | adgadgadg: did you create the soundlink yet? |
| 21:31.37 | phoenix7700 | Is there a way to make a unit stop moving after it reaches a certain range? |
| 21:32.38 | phoenix7700 | like for instance if you told a unit to move to an area that was across an rivver, intead of that unit pathing all the way around to stop, it stops after it reaches a certain range |
| 21:33.48 | phoenix7700 | i could move a region, just wondering if there is a way to do it without having to create bunchof dif sized regions |
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| 21:40.10 | Dustin | phoenix7700 |
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| 21:40.20 | phoenix7700 | ya |
| 21:40.52 | Dustin | Just check the pathing cost |
| 21:41.10 | phoenix7700 | ahh |
| 21:41.18 | phoenix7700 | can you do that with a validator? |
| 21:41.22 | phoenix7700 | or is it a trigger |
| 21:41.33 | Dustin | Not sure about Data, but Its easy in triggers |
| 21:41.34 | Dustin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mfb2Safa1E |
| 21:41.48 | Dustin | Here's a little test map I made to show what Im talking about |
| 21:41.59 | phoenix7700 | yeah, just wondering if there is a way to attach it to each specific unit |
| 21:42.10 | phoenix7700 | cus im gonna have lots of units with different ranges of move |
| 21:43.20 | phoenix7700 | thats pretty near |
| 21:43.21 | phoenix7700 | neat |
| 21:43.27 | Dustin | you're gonna have to comeup with some sort of unit indexing then |
| 21:43.53 | Dustin | So you can store a units original position and range max and shit and reference it with an integer |
| 21:44.04 | phoenix7700 | or |
| 21:44.17 | phoenix7700 | what i have now uses data |
| 21:44.25 | phoenix7700 | abilit has a max range |
| 21:44.27 | phoenix7700 | but |
| 21:44.32 | phoenix7700 | they can walk AROUND shit |
| 21:44.37 | phoenix7700 | and move furhter than i want |
| 21:44.43 | phoenix7700 | if they are just walking straight |
| 21:44.47 | phoenix7700 | they stop at the range |
| 21:44.51 | Dustin | Yeah, Im not sure if there's a validator for pathing cost |
| 21:45.30 | phoenix7700 | hmmm im gonna try some stuff |
| 21:46.10 | Dustin | Id help ya out some more but I gotta be headin out |
| 21:46.16 | phoenix7700 | np |
| 21:49.57 | XorioZ | ok so i uploaded 4 music pieces i made to my youtube channel. http://www.youtube.com/user/xoriozme?feature=mhee#p/u . feel free to listen to it and deface it. |
| 21:50.33 | phoenix7700 | wow SO AWFUL |
| 21:50.47 | phoenix7700 | can't believe youd ever make anything like this |
| 21:51.21 | phoenix7700 | jk |
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| 21:51.48 | XorioZ | :) |
| 21:51.58 | Xan | I like it |
| 21:52.02 | XorioZ | i was just fooling around |
| 21:52.10 | Xan | could use some more heavy drums though :) |
| 21:52.23 | XorioZ | yea all my m8's said the same. |
| 21:52.25 | phoenix7700 | reminds me of the music for Earth's Special Forces |
| 21:52.33 | XorioZ | so Found my time has some heavy base |
| 21:52.37 | agaegaerg | can anyone solve this ? |
| 21:52.41 | agaegaerg | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/23810-what-is-this-red-circle-under-jacksons-revenge/#p3 |
| 21:52.52 | agaegaerg | how to remove this red circle ? |
| 21:53.07 | XorioZ | i think i know what that is. |
| 21:53.27 | XorioZ | you made an error with an ability that uses a curser splat |
| 21:53.38 | XorioZ | can't remember how to solve it tho. |
| 21:53.38 | Xan | I like new sensation |
| 21:53.50 | Xan | would be awesome with heavier drums |
| 21:54.12 | Xan | what program did you use? |
| 21:54.21 | XorioZ | sounds like i have to dig the raw up from my backup drives and start adding heavy drums to it then :P |
| 21:54.27 | XorioZ | ableton live |
| 21:54.30 | phoenix7700 | does auto-cast trigger the actor to show up? |
| 21:54.42 | XorioZ | it might. |
| 21:55.10 | phoenix7700 | check the actor events and change the ones where it get created maybe |
| 21:55.16 | phoenix7700 | see if that fixes it |
| 21:55.22 | XorioZ | yea try that |
| 21:55.28 | phoenix7700 | just make it not get created at all |
| 21:55.32 | phoenix7700 | see if it's still there |
| 21:55.35 | phoenix7700 | if it is |
| 21:55.40 | phoenix7700 | then i dont kno |
| 21:55.41 | phoenix7700 | w |
| 21:55.49 | XorioZ | havent been using the data editor for a while now so i'm not that good at it anymore. |
| 21:56.53 | phoenix7700 | damn, thought you could help ME |
| 21:57.35 | Xan | do you play an instrument xorioz? |
| 21:57.40 | XorioZ | yep |
| 21:57.44 | Xan | what? |
| 21:57.52 | phoenix7700 | piano |
| 21:58.02 | phoenix7700 | or guitar |
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| 21:58.12 | XorioZ | keybord bass and guitar. my hair is even long and i used to smoke weed :P |
| 21:58.16 | agaegaerg | I removed the cursor actor copy and it is disappeared thx.. |
| 21:58.23 | Xan | ah |
| 21:58.25 | Xan | :P |
| 21:58.27 | XorioZ | np. |
| 21:58.28 | Xan | I used to play drums |
| 21:59.02 | Xan | used to compose some songs in logic pro |
| 21:59.06 | Xan | for mac |
| 21:59.13 | phoenix7700 | if you removed the actor, it wont show up at all when you try to use the ability |
| 21:59.15 | XorioZ | argh mac. |
| 21:59.26 | Xan | dont have mac anymore though |
| 21:59.26 | phoenix7700 | unless you dont want it to |
| 21:59.51 | Xan | I think protools is rather good for PC |
| 22:00.11 | XorioZ | ableton live FTW. |
| 22:00.19 | XorioZ | :O |
| 22:04.24 | Xan | never used ableton live |
| 22:04.33 | XorioZ | phoenix it might have something to do with the target properties. |
| 22:04.45 | phoenix7700 | sweet |
| 22:04.49 | phoenix7700 | i figure it out |
| 22:04.50 | XorioZ | try it. its quite awsome once you get used to it. |
| 22:05.02 | phoenix7700 | there is an option in the validators for using pathing |
| 22:05.19 | XorioZ | something about setting some target property to cursor |
| 22:05.25 | XorioZ | oh. |
| 22:05.38 | XorioZ | nice. |
| 22:05.42 | Xan | isnt that more for live performances |
| 22:05.44 | Xan | ? |
| 22:05.51 | Xan | than actual composing |
| 22:05.56 | Vexal | www.nyan.cat |
| 22:06.03 | Vexal | 1200 seconds so far |
| 22:06.12 | XorioZ | well it can be used for live performances but ut's allso quite good for making music in the home. :P |
| 22:06.20 | Xan | damn |
| 22:06.24 | Xan | I managed 5 seconds |
| 22:06.34 | phoenix7700 | lol |
| 22:06.35 | phoenix7700 | YES |
| 22:06.38 | phoenix7700 | best website |
| 22:06.56 | Vexal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYcPJgHdiq8 |
| 22:06.57 | phoenix7700 | wait i can get Nyan in japanese!? |
| 22:07.03 | XorioZ | Vexal. http://www.youtube.com/user/xoriozme . then listn to some of my music. |
| 22:07.58 | Vexal | do i have to |
| 22:08.11 | Vexal | already listening to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4rUaITuXSg&feature=fvst |
| 22:08.53 | XorioZ | ahh clasical music. me like |
| 22:09.14 | XorioZ | no you dont have to. what am i saying get in there adn deface my music NOW! |
| 22:10.08 | Xan | deface? |
| 22:10.20 | phoenix7700 | if you dont like nyan cat listen to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWDsD6Zs_p0&feature=related |
| 22:10.20 | Xan | that cat thing is retarded |
| 22:10.36 | Xan | "audio has been disabled" |
| 22:10.37 | Xan | lol |
| 22:10.43 | phoenix7700 | thats the point |
| 22:10.47 | Vexal | it's a ojke |
| 22:10.49 | Vexal | the point of that song |
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| 22:10.54 | Vexal | is that it's 4.33 of no sound |
| 22:10.55 | phoenix7700 | the song was composed of complete silence |
| 22:11.06 | Vexal | so the guy uploaded the video with a copyrighted song originally to get youtube to remove the audio |
| 22:11.11 | phoenix7700 | ya |
| 22:11.46 | phoenix7700 | it would be more interesting to see a person hardcore conducting that song |
| 22:11.53 | phoenix7700 | getting all into it and shit |
| 22:12.17 | Xan | whats the point of disabling the audio for a music video |
| 22:12.29 | Vexal | it's a joke |
| 22:13.04 | Xan | pointless |
| 22:13.06 | Xan | ^^ |
| 22:13.30 | phoenix7700 | john cage the guy that composed it is really fucking wierd |
| 22:13.36 | Vexal | it's not pointless. it's funny. |
| 22:13.42 | Vexal | you have no appreciation for higher art |
| 22:13.43 | phoenix7700 | all his other music doesnt use any normal instuments |
| 22:13.47 | Vexal | and humor making fun of higher art |
| 22:13.54 | Vexal | which is the whole point of high art in the first place |
| 22:13.58 | phoenix7700 | lol |
| 22:14.27 | phoenix7700 | lol |
| 22:14.33 | phoenix7700 | there is a lower the volume |
| 22:14.37 | phoenix7700 | on nyan.cat |
| 22:14.41 | phoenix7700 | and it makes it louder |
| 22:15.04 | XorioZ | try rpessing it repeadedly |
| 22:15.11 | phoenix7700 | sounds good |
| 22:15.26 | phoenix7700 | OMG!!!! |
| 22:15.27 | phoenix7700 | ITS SO LOUD NOW |
| 22:15.44 | phoenix7700 | AND NOW IM TRIPPING OUT |
| 22:16.48 | XorioZ | how self centered can one be? I'm still listning to my own music :) |
| 22:17.04 | phoenix7700 | lol |
| 22:17.07 | phoenix7700 | very |
| 22:17.13 | phoenix7700 | moar nyan.cat |
| 22:17.54 | phoenix7700 | I'LL OPEN TWO AT ONCE |
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| 22:18.12 | XorioZ | nooooooooooooooooo.... |
| 22:18.26 | phoenix7700 | oh yea |
| 22:18.28 | XorioZ | all my original ableton live project files are gone. |
| 22:18.30 | XorioZ | :( |
| 22:18.31 | phoenix7700 | can't even hear the 2nd one |
| 22:20.19 | vailreth | That must Suck Xor |
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| 22:31.20 | phoenix7700 | i listened to this song for 1 hours before |
| 22:31.23 | phoenix7700 | hour |
| 22:33.19 | phoenix7700 | welp |
| 22:33.37 | phoenix7700 | i just looked at the page source and turns out you get an achievement for over 9000 |
| 22:33.39 | phoenix7700 | so |
| 22:33.39 | Mexa|Tee | Can't hug every cat autotuned > nyan.cat |
| 22:33.41 | phoenix7700 | i gotta do thta |
| 22:33.48 | phoenix7700 | that |
| 22:34.01 | phoenix7700 | yea that song is pretty good too |
| 22:35.41 | phoenix7700 | 2 and a half hours of nyan cat |
| 22:35.48 | phoenix7700 | for achievement |
| 22:41.36 | vailreth | wow the second fourth six and tenth rainbow pieces are completely stationary |
| 22:41.56 | Nash|327 | Kittuns in bags song |
| 22:42.24 | vailreth | nash had a chance to test that attach point center soft? |
| 22:43.09 | Nash|327 | naw, map night |
| 22:43.13 | phoenix7700 | on mine it's the 2,4,8,10,14 |
| 22:43.26 | vailreth | how long is mapnight is it still happening ?? |
| 22:43.44 | phoenix7700 | KARAOKE MODE |
| 22:43.56 | phoenix7700 | bonus |
| 22:44.28 | Nash|327 | until people give up |
| 22:45.40 | vailreth | i think i had a three or four hour nap hmm |
| 22:49.57 | Reactorex | phoenix7700: I've got 900,000 seconds on nyan.cat right now |
| 22:50.10 | phoenix7700 | nah you cheated |
| 22:50.16 | Reactorex | Nope. For srs. |
| 22:50.18 | phoenix7700 | you didn't listen |
| 22:50.21 | Reactorex | Opened it days ago. |
| 22:50.35 | Reactorex | Oh, I've got it playing. xD |
| 22:50.39 | phoenix7700 | it doesn't count if you dont listen |
| 22:50.39 | Reactorex | It's not max volume, but still. |
| 22:51.08 | phoenix7700 | even while you are sleeping |
| 22:51.11 | phoenix7700 | you have to listen |
| 22:51.13 | Reactorex | Sure does, since the majority is valid :P |
| 22:56.00 | phoenix7700 | can you pause entire unit groups at the same time? |
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| 23:10.08 | phoenix7700 | half way there! |
| 23:10.13 | phoenix7700 | wait |
| 23:10.20 | phoenix7700 | ALMOST half way there |
| 23:26.48 | vailreth | almost a third for me |
| 23:26.57 | phoenix7700 | just made it 1/2 way |
| 23:27.02 | phoenix7700 | 4500 |
| 23:27.03 | vailreth | andi in karaoke mode... |
| 23:27.09 | phoenix7700 | OH YEA |
| 23:27.15 | phoenix7700 | karaoke mode is the boss |
| 23:27.25 | vailreth | and color changing background |
| 23:27.38 | vailreth | because im epic like that |
| 23:27.41 | phoenix7700 | yep |
| 23:27.47 | phoenix7700 | loudest setting |
| 23:27.48 | phoenix7700 | duh |
| 23:28.59 | vailreth | my goal is to screen cap at 9999.9 |
| 23:29.10 | phoenix7700 | thats gonna be hard |
| 23:29.28 | vailreth | i got 999.9 |
| 23:29.44 | Xan | I got 5 :/ |
| 23:30.49 | phoenix7700 | apperently Reactorex has 900000 |
| 23:30.53 | vailreth | i put 999.9 seconds up on my facebook as win |
| 23:30.53 | phoenix7700 | but i call bullshit |
| 23:31.13 | vailreth | so i plan on captuing 9999.9 and calling it epic win |
| 23:32.00 | phoenix7700 | starting to give me a headache |
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| 23:32.24 | phoenix7700 | prob cus it's too loud |
| 23:32.36 | vailreth | not every one can handle the repetative sounds that well |
| 23:32.52 | phoenix7700 | gotta turn it down some |
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| 23:33.35 | Xan | why not just turn off the sound, change tab and let it run? |
| 23:33.35 | Xan | ^^ |
| 23:33.48 | vailreth | the point is to endure |
| 23:33.56 | Xan | imposs |
| 23:34.16 | phoenix7700 | YEA |
| 23:34.19 | phoenix7700 | DUh |
| 23:34.23 | vailreth | ok passed one third of my goal |
| 23:34.32 | phoenix7700 | its cheating if i just let it run muted |
| 23:34.33 | Xan | you guys are crazy |
| 23:34.36 | Xan | or very very bored |
| 23:34.45 | phoenix7700 | nah |
| 23:34.48 | phoenix7700 | im working on my map |
| 23:35.32 | vailreth | i am wondering should my reaperling burrow or cloak... |
| 23:37.36 | Xan | burrow |
| 23:37.46 | Xan | whats a reaperling? |
| 23:38.20 | vailreth | its a little zerg unit that launches it self at your head explodes on impact and releases a brainslug to take over your mind |
| 23:38.35 | Xan | it should launch directly from burrowed state |
| 23:38.36 | Xan | :D |
| 23:38.38 | Xan | from underground |
| 23:38.51 | vailreth | hm |
| 23:39.02 | Xan | ambush! |
| 23:39.15 | vailreth | well thats the goal |
| 23:40.43 | phoenix7700 | yea |
| 23:40.46 | phoenix7700 | it was just too loud |
| 23:40.48 | vailreth | ill be back in a minute |
| 23:40.51 | phoenix7700 | thats why my head hurt |
| 23:41.02 | Xan | nah |
| 23:41.07 | Xan | you're just too weak for cat |
| 23:41.58 | phoenix7700 | says the noob |
| 23:42.06 | Xan | what noob |
| 23:42.06 | Xan | ^^ |
| 23:42.18 | phoenix7700 | said the liar |
| 23:42.37 | Xan | of what |
| 23:43.44 | phoenix7700 | just accept it |
| 23:43.54 | Xan | never |
| 23:56.08 | vailreth | over half way there |
| 23:56.28 | phoenix7700 | so turns out |
| 23:56.32 | phoenix7700 | if you dont visit the page |
| 23:56.36 | phoenix7700 | it stops the counter |
| 23:56.40 | phoenix7700 | after like 1000 |
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| 23:57.02 | phoenix7700 | at least mine was stopped |
| 23:57.07 | vailreth | good think im checking it every so often |
| 23:57.13 | Wiz10011 | Hello |
| 23:57.20 | vailreth | mine is 4775.9 |
| 23:57.31 | Wiz10011 | ~seen adgadgadg |
| 23:57.45 | purl | adgadgadg is currently on #sc2mapster (4h 43m 53s). Has said a total of 42 messages. Is idling for 2h 33m 49s, last said: 'im gona go play some multiplayer then going to meh cabin'. |
| 23:57.45 | phoenix7700 | earlier |
| 23:57.45 | Wiz10011 | whats that command? |
| 23:57.45 | phoenix7700 | i think he left |
| 23:58.24 | phoenix7700 | wtf!? |
| 23:58.27 | phoenix7700 | howd u do that |
