IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20110718

`00:18.20`	`Mexa`	`~seen Bounty`
`00:18.23`	`purl`	`bounty <442d670f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.103.15> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4h 41m 23s ago, saying: 'what about it'.`
`00:19.18`	`Stewox`	`hello`
`00:19.31`	`Stewox`	`i need multiple conditions for a lot of players`
`00:19.53`	`Stewox`	`do i need to plac OR everytime between each "owner of unit" condition ?`
`00:20.03`	`Stewox`	`and i also need one player NOT`
`00:21.11`	`Stewox`	`aha`
`00:21.26`	`Stewox`	`i need all under OR , otherwise it's treated as AND`
`00:22.45`	`BasharTeg_`	`Anyone know how to make walls not affect low-flying units' height?`
`00:26.40`	`Wiz10011`	`Does anyone know why when I try to harvest a mineral patch with the tree model it says it's cant harvest that resource?`
`00:34.23`	`CryptRat`	`When you target something accross the otherside of the map, what makes an ability start cooling down immediately while the unit travels to the intended target rather than waiting to cooldown after actually arriving at the target?`
`00:36.33`	`Stewox`	`hello`
`00:36.39`	`Stewox`	`do i need to create player groups`
`00:36.51`	`Stewox`	`or are they created automatically by team/alliances ?`
`00:36.57`	`Stewox`	`for triggers`
`00:38.25`	`Javdani`	`Is it even possible to add an actor to a unit you create through the "Add Unit" function?`
`00:44.09`	`Stewox`	`jademussreg`
`00:44.12`	`Stewox`	`here ?`
`00:49.00`	`CryptRat`	`Javdani, I think it might have to be a special type of actor and then you have to modify the events+ to make it work the same as everything else like it.`
`00:50.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster hawker (63e9c492@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.233.196.146)`
`00:53.28`	`tampa1adam`	`anyone have a link to a tutorial on multiplayer dialogs`
`00:55.16`	`*** join/#sc2mapster n4orcer (3e7fc81b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.62.127.200.27)`
`00:56.11`	`*** join/#sc2mapster tordy (ad44a44a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.68.164.74)`
`00:56.22`	`tordy`	`Cronos the bear?`
`00:56.25`	`tordy`	`sup hawker`
`00:56.31`	`hawker`	`nm`
`00:57.38`	`tampa1adam`	`I think it may be time to give up on my map`
`00:57.44`	`n4orcer`	`o/`
`00:58.55`	`hawker`	`y u say dese tings`
`01:01.32`	`Stewox`	`anyone knows how do i make a unit to always run ?`
`01:01.50`	`Stewox`	`possible hack via making the mover a MISSILE with unlimited fuel ?`
`01:02.03`	`Stewox`	`but i need ground and WALK abilities like turning with mouse`
`01:03.30`	`Javdani`	`If they ever decide to do a drag and drop system for this editor I'll have their children`
`01:05.03`	`hawker`	`drag and drop?`
`01:05.09`	`hawker`	`:\|`
`01:05.15`	`hawker`	`inventory?`
`01:06.02`	`Javdani`	`no just allow me to say, god forbid, open both the unit and ability tab at the same time and instead of going through the unit and pressing "add ability", just drag it from one to the other`
`01:06.05`	`Javdani`	`and have it add it`
`01:08.42`	`tordy`	`agouti!!!!`
`01:08.48`	`tordy`	`here's rick james a star`
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`01:09.11`	`adgdagad`	`vail hows the wall`
`01:11.21`	`adgdagad`	`so i cant figure out how to make a buff for my obelisk to fire faster but i wana see ur C&C vail`
`01:46.59`	`*** join/#sc2mapster synik4l (~synik4l@99-116-71-38.lightspeed.mrbotn.sbcglobal.net)`
`01:53.49`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Agouti (~Agouti@60-240-2-243.tpgi.com.au)`
`02:08.14`	`tordy`	`Agouti: !!! >:)`
`02:08.52`	`Agouti`	`hallo tordy`
`02:09.00`	`tordy`	`you never told me you made island defense`
`02:09.04`	`tordy`	`:]`
`02:09.30`	`tordy`	`or at least, you're the current guy maintaining it`
`02:09.35`	`tordy`	`i miss fromethius :/`
`02:09.51`	`tordy`	`can you make the mule hotkey not m, somethin like q`
`02:10.12`	`tordy`	`or e`
`02:10.59`	`tordy`	`while i was playing a game of island defense, someone asked if i made Sotis`
`02:11.01`	`tordy`	`i was like wow`
`02:11.10`	`tordy`	`dont know where they could get the connectiomn`
`02:11.21`	`tordy`	`guess that's what happens when you frequent the sc2mapster irc or somethin`
`02:12.32`	`tordy`	`Agouti when you play your popular published map, how often do you get players recognizing your name?`
`02:12.46`	`tordy`	`just curious`
`02:15.17`	`Mephs`	`its because no one cares about sc2 custom maps really`
`02:15.26`	`Mephs`	`hi tordy`
`02:15.29`	`tordy`	`hello`
`02:15.49`	`tordy`	`Mephs did you quit making customs`
`02:16.09`	`Agouti`	`tordy: far too often`
`02:16.15`	`tordy`	`D:`
`02:16.17`	`tordy`	`so it's true`
`02:16.22`	`tordy`	`i thought people dont look at publisher names`
`02:16.23`	`Mephs`	`sorta`
`02:16.23`	`Agouti`	`also`
`02:16.29`	`Agouti`	`ewll`
`02:16.31`	`Mephs`	`i dont want to make expansive customs that take too much time to develop`
`02:16.33`	`Agouti`	`well*`
`02:16.41`	`Agouti`	`I'm not sure I'm a good example`
`02:16.41`	`Mephs`	`i might make a single player type of impossible boss kinda game maybe`
`02:16.45`	`tordy`	`wel Mephs, you should make a simple map`
`02:16.49`	`tordy`	`low risk`
`02:16.50`	`Agouti`	`because whenever I'm on I'm hosting in-house games`
`02:16.53`	`tordy`	`high chance of popularity`
`02:16.55`	`tordy`	`no shame in making those`
`02:17.05`	`Mephs`	`just as a portfolio`
`02:17.10`	`tordy`	`do you get PMs a lot`
`02:17.13`	`Mephs`	`just spend less time on the game mechanics and more time on the polish`
`02:17.14`	`Agouti`	`yes`
`02:17.31`	`Agouti`	`I have a macro for responses to "I have an idea"`
`02:17.33`	`Mephs`	`like i have no motivation to make a truly expansive game like starcraft universe, mainly cuz a game like that will never work on bnet`
`02:18.12`	`Agouti`	`but again because of the nature of the map I have, and the community/forums`
`02:18.18`	`tordy`	`it would have to be really really good and would need multiple maps else you deal with popularity splitting`
`02:18.18`	`Mephs`	`so i'm thinking i might just make a simple single player map, that way no one ever has to wait for the lobby to fill`
`02:18.24`	`Agouti`	`that might not be characteristic of other maps`
`02:18.30`	`tordy`	`single player!?`
`02:18.31`	`tordy`	`cmon mephs`
`02:18.42`	`Agouti`	`nothing wrong with SP`
`02:18.46`	`tordy`	`i agree`
`02:18.48`	`Mephs`	`dude`
`02:18.49`	`Mephs`	`fucking`
`02:18.51`	`Mephs`	`hungry baneling`
`02:18.56`	`Mephs`	`nuff said`
`02:19.01`	`tordy`	`what about it`
`02:19.02`	`tordy`	`you hate it?`
`02:19.07`	`Mephs`	`single player game that was on page 1 for a month`
`02:19.11`	`Mephs`	`and it was stupid as fuck`
`02:19.17`	`Agouti`	`popularity whoring is only for people who have nothing else in their life to draw pride from`
`02:19.18`	`Agouti`	`tbh`
`02:19.23`	`Mephs`	`if i make it single player`
`02:19.27`	`Mephs`	`popularity has no effect on it`
`02:19.28`	`Mephs`	`ppl can play it`
`02:19.38`	`Agouti`	`bookmarks ftw`
`02:19.40`	`Mephs`	`and its just fun`
`02:19.45`	`Mephs`	`the idea is just boss fights`
`02:19.48`	`tordy`	`well that was when the popularity system was based on # of times played`
`02:19.52`	`Mephs`	`and you steal the boss's landmark ability`
`02:19.55`	`Mephs`	`like megaman`
`02:19.57`	`tordy`	`now it wouldn't even touch the 3rd page`
`02:20.01`	`Mephs`	`but the bosses are incredibly hard`
`02:20.05`	`Mephs`	`and you can set different difficulties`
`02:20.12`	`Mephs`	`get a score/grade for finishing`
`02:20.17`	`Mephs`	`based on time clear, times hit, etc.`
`02:20.47`	`tordy`	`got an idea for making it multiplayer?`
`02:20.48`	`Mephs`	`so ppl can keep their record scores to show off or something silly`
`02:20.55`	`Mephs`	`yea i might make a 4 player co-op version after the first`
`02:20.56`	`tordy`	`versus mode or something`
`02:21.01`	`Mephs`	`nah not vs`
`02:21.05`	`Mephs`	`just a co-op with up to 4 players`
`02:21.09`	`Mephs`	`see how a single player version goes`
`02:21.19`	`Mephs`	`i'll just make it pretty and full of fun abilities to play with`
`02:21.25`	`Mephs`	`like a time manipulation ability, hookshot`
`02:21.40`	`Mephs`	`things you need to use to figure out how to beat each encounter`
`02:21.42`	`tordy`	`so like a mini-SC universe but all bosses?`
`02:21.48`	`tordy`	`and no training`
`02:21.48`	`Mephs`	`uhh not realy`
`02:21.51`	`tordy`	`you get all the abiliteis`
`02:21.51`	`Mephs`	`think like`
`02:21.53`	`tordy`	`right there`
`02:21.56`	`Mephs`	`megaman meets ikaruga meets diablo`
`02:22.03`	`Mephs`	`you get the abilities by beating the bosses`
`02:22.05`	`Mephs`	`no linearity`
`02:22.22`	`tordy`	`ikaruga? that aint good with bnet's latency`
`02:22.26`	`Mephs`	`well`
`02:22.32`	`Mephs`	`i mean mechanics like a bullet hell`
`02:22.35`	`Mephs`	`boss mechanics and such`
`02:22.44`	`Mephs`	`and the harder the boss difficulty the more "phases" they have`
`02:22.46`	`Mephs`	`that get more intense`
`02:22.53`	`Mephs`	`if the bnet lag is too much`
`02:22.57`	`Mephs`	`i might just let ppl download to play local`
`02:24.18`	`tordy`	`Agouti how'd they know your character code, did you put it in the map?`
`02:24.47`	`tordy`	`or did you join a game, someone stalked you and spread your char code around`
`02:27.24`	`tordy`	`did anyone make a C&C map yet`
`02:27.32`	`tordy`	`where you just mass units`
`02:27.56`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Jum-Jum (~Jum-Jum@h186n3c1o1049.bredband.skanova.com)`
`02:33.10`	`Mephs`	`yeah there's a lot of maps where you just spam units`
`02:33.35`	`tordy`	`not those maps`
`02:38.30`	`Javdani`	`Sign that it's too late to be making maps: Spending 15 minutes trying to figure out why a trigger isn't working and it turns out you've read Picked Integer as Picked Player 3-4 times over ^^`
`02:39.18`	`tampa1adam`	`How do I send a UI text message telling the player which team they're on`
`02:39.37`	`Mephs`	`Sign that it's too late to be making maps: It's October 2010 and bnet still sucks`
`02:40.05`	`tampa1adam`	`ripping a big phat bong is the answer to all galaxy explorer problems`
`02:40.19`	`Mephs`	`i disagree`
`02:40.24`	`Mephs`	`great way to get a good night's sleep though`
`02:40.32`	`tampa1adam`	`its better than eliza`
`02:40.34`	`tampa1adam`	`:D`
`02:43.01`	`Agouti`	`tordy: people just adding me from games`
`02:43.08`	`Agouti`	`and I frequent the ID channel`
`02:43.12`	`Mephs`	`dont stop`
`02:43.14`	`Mephs`	`belieeeeeevin`
`02:43.23`	`tordy`	`the what channel`
`02:43.30`	`Agouti`	`island defence`
`02:43.34`	`Agouti`	`chat channel`
`02:44.09`	`Agouti`	`sigh`
`02:44.16`	`Agouti`	`GE has had one of it's "episodes"`
`02:44.33`	`Agouti`	`and added and removed abilities at random from units`
`02:44.34`	`n4orcer`	`Stupid Question: How does a team work on a single map together? Is there any smooth way for some to work on the terrain and someone else on triggers/data?`
`02:44.56`	`Agouti`	`there are 3 different, modular sections on the map`
`02:45.01`	`Agouti`	`terrain, triggers, and data`
`02:45.11`	`Agouti`	`if you use a MPQ editor on the map file itself`
`02:45.23`	`Agouti`	`each of those components exist as seperate files inside the MPQ`
`02:45.35`	`Agouti`	`like you would inside a zip file`
`02:45.40`	`tampa1adam`	`good ol Ladik`
`02:45.48`	`Agouti`	`so if you have someone else working on terrain, they can send you their file`
`02:46.00`	`Agouti`	`and you can copy and paste the files into the main copy`
`02:46.06`	`n4orcer`	`Ahhh so I can extract the terrain from the MPQ and let someone work on that while I continue on trigger?`
`02:46.14`	`Agouti`	`precisely`
`02:46.17`	`n4orcer`	`Ahh, Thanks. That explains it :)`
`02:46.22`	`Agouti`	`though it's easier to just give them a copy`
`02:46.27`	`Agouti`	`then consolidate by hand`
`02:46.37`	`Agouti`	`if you want multiple people working on data stuff`
`02:46.50`	`Agouti`	`you can get them to make their units in MOD files`
`02:46.57`	`Agouti`	`add them as dependencies to the main map`
`02:47.11`	`Agouti`	`then either leave it there or duplicate the units across so they exist in the main map`
`02:47.33`	`n4orcer`	`Ahh, a couple of different ways to work on a single map then.`
`02:47.36`	`Agouti`	`you can also use programs like winmerge to selectively copy unit data`
`02:47.38`	`tampa1adam`	`will you code my map agouti`
`02:47.44`	`Agouti`	`no`
`02:47.51`	`Mephs`	`spoken like a true mapper`
`02:47.53`	`tampa1adam`	`for $500?`
`02:48.01`	`Mephs`	`approval rating of Agouti has increased +10`
`02:48.08`	`Agouti`	`heh`
`02:48.12`	`tampa1adam`	`slaps Agouti around a bit with a large trout`
`02:48.15`	`Agouti`	`it depends on how much is to be done`
`02:48.18`	`tampa1adam`	`take my trout`
`02:48.31`	`Agouti`	`I'd rather help you do it yourself though, much as I do need the money`
`02:48.41`	`tampa1adam`	`ok`
`02:48.46`	`Mephs`	`wait`
`02:48.53`	`tampa1adam`	`how do i make a single templar morph into an archon`
`02:49.01`	`Mephs`	`how much you pay me`
`02:49.02`	`Agouti`	`data.`
`02:49.04`	`Mephs`	`i'll help you do anything`
`02:49.07`	`Agouti`	`morph ability`
`02:49.15`	`Agouti`	`have a look at how zerglings turn into banelings`
`02:49.35`	`Mephs`	`something as complicated as a templar->archon morph could take a while`
`02:49.37`	`Mephs`	`i'll need $500`
`02:49.45`	`Deaod`	`lol`
`02:49.48`	`Agouti`	`level stare`
`02:50.08`	`Agouti`	`morph abilties are fairly straight forward`
`02:50.16`	`Mephs`	`agouti doesn't know anything about the editor`
`02:50.21`	`Mephs`	`you're better off taking it from an expert`
`02:50.38`	`Agouti`	`Also, he has a fine selection of used cars`
`02:50.44`	`Agouti`	`all in perfect condition`
`02:50.49`	`Agouti`	`ignore that clunk, that is normal`
`02:51.09`	`tampa1adam`	`I can tell from you fool's bantering you're both eurpoean`
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`02:51.27`	`Agouti`	`I can tell from your incorrect assesment that you are incorrect`
`02:51.32`	`Deaod`	`you can tell that?`
`02:51.39`	`Deaod`	`wow.`
`02:51.47`	`Agouti`	`I can tell from your internet connection that you live on earth`
`02:51.58`	`tampa1adam`	`wrong`
`02:52.03`	`Agouti`	`nup`
`02:52.07`	`tampa1adam`	`:d`
`02:52.10`	`tampa1adam`	`:(`
`02:52.19`	`Agouti`	`moon = 8min ping`
`02:52.20`	`Agouti`	`pew pew`
`02:52.25`	`Deaod`	`huh?`
`02:52.27`	`Agouti`	`>_>`
`02:52.30`	`Agouti`	`I mean`
`02:52.32`	`Deaod`	`sun = 8min ping`
`02:52.46`	`Deaod`	`moon, half a second or so`
`02:52.49`	`Agouti`	`So I got confused`
`02:52.54`	`Agouti`	`leave me the fuck alone :<`
`02:53.08`	`Agouti`	`As soon as I said it I thought`
`02:53.09`	`Agouti`	`wait`
`02:53.12`	`Agouti`	`that can't be right`
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`02:53.30`	`Deaod`	`what?`
`02:53.32`	`Agouti`	`By the way, the term "european" covers a very wide range of cultures`
`02:53.40`	`*** part/#sc2mapster windsnight (~Zeroish@adsl-75-4-242-139.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net)`
`02:53.42`	`Deaod`	`well, youre in Australia`
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`02:53.55`	`Agouti`	`:O`
`02:53.58`	`Agouti`	`HOW`
`02:54.06`	`Deaod`	`.com.au`
`02:54.10`	`Deaod`	`genius.`
`02:54.12`	`Agouti`	`oh derp`
`02:54.27`	`Agouti`	`fuck what is wrong with me today`
`02:54.35`	`Agouti`	`coffee`
`02:54.38`	`Agouti`	`is the answer`
`02:54.43`	`Deaod`	`it always is...`
`02:54.45`	`Vailreth`	`coffee`
`02:54.58`	`Agouti`	`I miss my old coffee machine`
`02:55.00`	`Agouti`	`I miss it good`
`02:55.13`	`Deaod`	`Programmer: A device for converting coffee into software.`
`02:55.17`	`Agouti`	`hah`
`02:55.22`	`Agouti`	`I like that`
`02:55.49`	`tampa1adam`	`@command([Compose];"coffee")`
`02:55.50`	`Vailreth`	`what would that make an Artist?`
`02:57.55`	`Agouti`	`factory seconds?`
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`02:59.38`	`tampa1adam`	`I'm gonna hang myself and leave a suicide note with only the words "Starcraft 2 Galaxy Editor" on it`
`03:01.14`	`Vailreth`	`why?`
`03:01.27`	`Agouti`	`oh tampa`
`03:01.29`	`Agouti`	`just wait`
`03:01.41`	`Agouti`	`till you play around with actors, site ops, and attachment queries`
`03:01.56`	`Deaod`	`i would rather hang myself.`
`03:02.04`	`Agouti`	`I am alrady well hung`
`03:02.12`	`Agouti`	`coughs`
`03:02.13`	`tampa1adam`	`pix?`
`03:02.23`	`Agouti`	`lemonparty.org`
`03:02.31`	`tampa1adam`	`I see`
`03:02.34`	`tampa1adam`	`not bad`
`03:02.40`	`n4orcer`	`ohhh hawt`
`03:02.46`	`tampa1adam`	`heres me wowomg.com`
`03:02.54`	`Agouti`	`haha`
`03:03.14`	`tampa1adam`	`how can I make a trigger to show me what team im on`
`03:03.28`	`Agouti`	`let me have a look`
`03:03.41`	`Agouti`	`using le' mighty function search bar`
`03:04.47`	`tampa1adam`	`you lost me at function`
`03:06.43`	`Agouti`	`actually tampa, it's a little more involved then I thought it would be`
`03:07.21`	`Agouti`	`have you had any previous experience coding?`
`03:07.33`	`tampa1adam`	`yeah`
`03:07.34`	`tampa1adam`	`php`
`03:07.36`	`tampa1adam`	`lotus domino`
`03:07.40`	`Agouti`	`so you know about loops`
`03:07.43`	`tampa1adam`	`yeah`
`03:07.47`	`Agouti`	`all the basic control structures`
`03:07.49`	`Agouti`	`ok good`
`03:08.09`	`Agouti`	`something important to note about GE is the functions it will give you at any point`
`03:08.10`	`tampa1adam`	`javascript`
`03:08.18`	`Agouti`	`will only be those that return the appropriate data type`
`03:08.37`	`Agouti`	`so if you are setting an integer var`
`03:08.48`	`Agouti`	`the functions displayed will only be those that return an int`
`03:09.23`	`Agouti`	`in addition it will not automatically type cast, so you need to convert data types (such as real to int)`
`03:09.31`	`Agouti`	`make sense so far?`
`03:09.47`	`tampa1adam`	`hang on reading it a 5th time`
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`03:09.51`	`tampa1adam`	`to see if I get it`
`03:09.59`	`Deaod`	`native playergroup PlayerGroupAlliance (int inType, int inPlayer);`
`03:10.05`	`Deaod`	`there.`
`03:10.10`	`Agouti`	`yes deaod`
`03:10.17`	`Agouti`	`one step at a time`
`03:10.25`	`Deaod`	`cmon.`
`03:10.29`	`Agouti`	`I know how to do it just easing into it ;)`
`03:10.37`	`tampa1adam`	`ok I understand agouti`
`03:11.02`	`Agouti`	`one thing that catches people out is with functions that deal with players`
`03:11.10`	`Agouti`	`some return or take a player group, not a player`
`03:11.17`	`Agouti`	`(a player is just an int)`
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`03:11.27`	`tampa1adam`	`most of that I already have down`
`03:11.31`	`Caz`	`w^-^w roar`
`03:11.34`	`tampa1adam`	`for instance picked player vs triggering player`
`03:11.53`	`Agouti`	`so you need a function that given a player number, needs to return what team they are on?`
`03:11.55`	`Agouti`	`say 1 or 2`
`03:11.56`	`Agouti`	`or 3`
`03:12.15`	`tampa1adam`	`ok, makes sense`
`03:12.20`	`Agouti`	`if so, there is no native function that does that`
`03:12.23`	`tampa1adam`	`can I supply triggering player?`
`03:12.26`	`tampa1adam`	`to that function`
`03:12.32`	`Agouti`	`that you need to make`
`03:12.39`	`Agouti`	`as it doesn't exist`
`03:12.48`	`Agouti`	`I was asking if that is what you needed`
`03:13.06`	`tampa1adam`	`yeah`
`03:13.09`	`tampa1adam`	`thats right`
`03:13.13`	`tampa1adam`	`basically I have an issues`
`03:13.14`	`Agouti`	`OK what you will need to do then`
`03:13.19`	`tampa1adam`	`I have an 8 player map`
`03:13.20`	`tampa1adam`	`2 teams`
`03:13.32`	`Agouti`	`the only function that directly deals with the team number that I know of`
`03:13.36`	`tampa1adam`	`bu if say only 2 ppl join (1v1) it still puts both players on the same team`
`03:14.01`	`tampa1adam`	`I want to show what team each player is on to try to trouble shoot`
`03:14.03`	`tampa1adam`	`??`
`03:14.20`	`tampa1adam`	`I have a trigger that adds player 1-4 to a var called team 1`
`03:14.23`	`Agouti`	`ok, well I will answer that question directly`
`03:14.30`	`tampa1adam`	`and another trigger that adds p1-5 to team 2`
`03:14.41`	`tampa1adam`	`based on the team`
`03:14.43`	`tampa1adam`	`I reveal an area`
`03:14.56`	`tampa1adam`	`but currently only team 1's area gets revealed`
`03:14.57`	`Agouti`	`note that the team number is only relevant to what team they were on in the lobby`
`03:15.19`	`Agouti`	`for example on my map there are 2 teams, but in the lobby everyone starts on team 1`
`03:15.30`	`Agouti`	`then the code manually sets the alliances`
`03:15.45`	`tampa1adam`	`ok`
`03:16.17`	`Agouti`	`so a player being on team 1 or team 2 (in terms of what I'm about to show you) only means that they were there in the lobby`
`03:16.36`	`Agouti`	`the actual alliances between players can be set to whatever you want`
`03:17.02`	`Agouti`	`and will not effect which "team" they are on for this function`
`03:17.21`	`Agouti`	`ok, with that out of the way`
`03:17.24`	`tampa1adam`	`ok`
`03:17.26`	`tampa1adam`	`makes sense`
`03:17.35`	`Agouti`	`the only way I can see to access which team people were on in the lobby`
`03:17.54`	`Agouti`	`is using a function called Players on Team, which returns a player group given a number`
`03:18.12`	`Agouti`	`so what you will need to do is loop through each team looking for the player`
`03:18.33`	`Agouti`	`so in psuedo code it will look something like`
`03:18.53`	`Agouti`	`int PlayersTeam(int Player)`
`03:19.09`	`Agouti`	`localvar int X`
`03:19.40`	`Agouti`	`for(x=1; x<=2;x++)`
`03:20.01`	`Agouti`	`pick each player in (players on team(x))`
`03:20.11`	`Agouti`	`if(picked player == Player)`
`03:20.17`	`Agouti`	`return x`
`03:20.30`	`tampa1adam`	`http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/picwr.jpg/`
`03:20.55`	`Agouti`	`ok what you have there`
`03:21.00`	`Agouti`	`is not what I am talking about`
`03:21.05`	`tampa1adam`	`I know what you're talking about`
`03:21.06`	`Agouti`	`you have player groups called Team 1 Team 2`
`03:21.11`	`tampa1adam`	`and I dont want to use the team they were on in the lobby`
`03:21.23`	`Agouti`	`.___.`
`03:21.28`	`tampa1adam`	`Team 1 and 2 are variables`
`03:21.30`	`Agouti`	`why didn't you tell me that earlier`
`03:21.38`	`Agouti`	`you ninkumpoop`
`03:21.44`	`Agouti`	`and saved me all that typing`
`03:21.44`	`tampa1adam`	`im sorry I didnt know how to explain it well`
`03:21.56`	`tampa1adam`	`sorry man`
`03:21.57`	`Agouti`	`I went to great lengths to say "is this what you mean"`
`03:21.59`	`Agouti`	`and you said Yes`
`03:22.03`	`Agouti`	`hmph`
`03:22.04`	`Deaod`	`native bool PlayerGroupHasPlayer (playergroup inGroup, int inPlayer);`
`03:22.10`	`Agouti`	`^`
`03:22.15`	`Deaod`	`lets just go and use this then, shall we?`
`03:22.20`	`Agouti`	`Boolean Player Is In Player Group`
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`03:22.28`	`Agouti`	`is what it is called in the trigger editor`
`03:22.35`	`Deaod`	`since you already conveniently have two groups`
`03:22.45`	`Agouti`	`in your comparison just search for player group`
`03:22.52`	`tampa1adam`	`look at that entire code segment`
`03:23.00`	`tampa1adam`	`not just the team variable settings`
`03:23.03`	`tampa1adam`	`see the camera stuff`
`03:23.17`	`Deaod`	`mmmmh`
`03:23.18`	`tampa1adam`	`that reveals only team region 1 to all players`
`03:23.26`	`tampa1adam`	`thats the problem`
`03:23.37`	`tampa1adam`	`so if u on team 2 and im on team 1, the region gets revealed for us both`
`03:23.40`	`tampa1adam`	`I dont know why`
`03:23.51`	`tampa1adam`	`ive only tested with 2 players`
`03:24.16`	`tampa1adam`	`It spawns them at start location 5`
`03:24.18`	`Deaod`	`thats because player ID doesnt correspond to the position of players in the lobby, IIRC`
`03:24.29`	`tampa1adam`	`but i dont use the lobby shit`
`03:24.33`	`tampa1adam`	`I use that variable`
`03:24.40`	`tampa1adam`	`team 1 and team 2`
`03:24.45`	`tampa1adam`	`those are variable`
`03:24.48`	`Agouti`	`how are you testing this`
`03:24.51`	`tampa1adam`	`I created`
`03:24.57`	`tampa1adam`	`online in SC2`
`03:24.59`	`Agouti`	`have you actually had 8 people in a lobby?`
`03:25.00`	`tampa1adam`	`not CTRL+F9`
`03:25.05`	`tampa1adam`	`I published it and had some1 join`
`03:25.11`	`Agouti`	`someONE?`
`03:25.14`	`Agouti`	`as in`
`03:25.15`	`Agouti`	`one?`
`03:25.18`	`Agouti`	`not`
`03:25.18`	`Agouti`	`5`
`03:25.19`	`tampa1adam`	`me and another`
`03:25.20`	`tampa1adam`	`1b1`
`03:25.20`	`Agouti`	`6`
`03:25.20`	`Agouti`	`7`
`03:25.21`	`tampa1adam`	`1v1`
`03:25.25`	`Deaod`	`still, player 1 is not necessarily the first player on the list`
`03:25.26`	`Agouti`	`exactly.`
`03:25.35`	`Agouti`	`So as deaod just said`
`03:25.45`	`Agouti`	`the player num is not related to their position in the lobby`
`03:25.49`	`Agouti`	`now read that`
`03:25.58`	`Agouti`	`then tell me what your friends player number will be`
`03:25.59`	`tampa1adam`	`Well I spawn at start location 1`
`03:26.04`	`tampa1adam`	`and the enemy spawns at start location 5`
`03:26.10`	`Agouti`	`that is start locations`
`03:26.13`	`Agouti`	`that is not player numbers`
`03:26.28`	`Caz`	`player# is equivalent to order in which you enterred lobby`
`03:26.28`	`Agouti`	`chances are your friend was player #2`
`03:26.32`	`Agouti`	`and on team 2`
`03:26.35`	`Deaod`	`i bet your friends number is going to be 2`
`03:26.35`	`tampa1adam`	`time to just forget all this and delete my map 1 sec`
`03:26.52`	`Agouti`	`er team 1*`
`03:27.07`	`Caz`	`Jade had a good laugh when i had to learn the hard way that changing lobby positions is irrelevant to player number :x`
`03:27.25`	`Deaod`	`it was convenient that way in WC3`
`03:27.41`	`tampa1adam`	`god this is so weird to explain`
`03:27.45`	`tampa1adam`	`and understand`
`03:28.04`	`tampa1adam`	`so he's player 2 basically`
`03:28.08`	`Deaod`	`yes`
`03:28.08`	`tampa1adam`	`the way the game understands it`
`03:28.19`	`tampa1adam`	`ok`
`03:28.42`	`tampa1adam`	`so if I have 2 players on my team and 1 on the other, the game will think there's player 1, player 2, and player 3, and add them all to my group`
`03:28.53`	`tampa1adam`	`and thats my problem`
`03:28.54`	`Agouti`	`yes.`
`03:28.58`	`tampa1adam`	`ok`
`03:28.59`	`Agouti`	`what you need to do`
`03:29.02`	`Agouti`	`is instead of`
`03:29.13`	`Agouti`	`player 1, 2, 3, 4 to var team 1`
`03:29.21`	`Agouti`	`is use Add player group to player group`
`03:29.22`	`JademusSreg`	`pew pew`
`03:29.33`	`Agouti`	`and add Players on Team(1) to var Team 1`
`03:29.35`	`Agouti`	`etc`
`03:29.44`	`Agouti`	`that will get you the same grouping as the lobby`
`03:29.56`	`Caz`	`So wouldnt you want to use Agouti's players on team function to allow lobby team seperation`
`03:30.06`	`Caz`	`meh u were essentially saying that already >>`
`03:30.16`	`Caz`	`i was stalled by Jade's pew pew effect`
`03:30.23`	`Agouti`	`you made my client beep FOR NUSSINK CAZ`
`03:30.25`	`Agouti`	`NUSSINK`
`03:30.38`	`Agouti`	`shakes fist`
`03:30.41`	`Caz`	`>>`
`03:30.44`	`Caz`	`lol`
`03:31.06`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`03:31.13`	`Caz`	`hey its not my fault the client cant differentiate between proper nouns and a posessive`
`03:31.23`	`Agouti`	`yes it is`
`03:31.26`	`Caz`	`lol`
`03:31.43`	`Agouti`	`I demand you write a patch for xchat that lets it grammer check and differentiate`
`03:31.57`	`Caz`	`* Launch Missile (Beep) ===> Agouti *`
`03:32.00`	`Caz`	`* Launch Missile (Beep) ===> Agouti *`
`03:32.31`	`Agouti`	`If you had simply made a grammatical error and not used the quotation mark`
`03:32.32`	`Deaod`	`wouldnt a regex do?`
`03:32.38`	`Agouti`	`none of this would have happenned`
`03:32.55`	`Agouti`	`removing the regex would be a step`
`03:33.02`	`Agouti`	`so it doesn't match [Name]'s`
`03:33.23`	`Agouti`	`but I demand full grammar checking as well as spell checking`
`03:33.39`	`Agouti`	`actually, spell checking doesn't work with the latest version`
`03:33.44`	`Agouti`	`hmmm`
`03:33.56`	`Caz`	`.......`
`03:34.01`	`Caz`	`* Launch Missile (Beep) ===> Agouti *`
`03:34.02`	`Caz`	`>>`
`03:34.06`	`tampa1adam`	`So here's my new action: Add all players in (Players on team 1) To Team 1`
`03:34.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`03:34.24`	`JademusSreg`	`That's funny.`
`03:34.31`	`Caz`	`what's funny =p ?`
`03:34.38`	`JademusSreg`	`Since the native returns a player group.`
`03:34.48`	`JademusSreg`	`You ought to just use a set variable action.`
`03:35.07`	`Agouti`	`well that would be a cleaner way to do it`
`03:35.14`	`Caz`	`mmmhh.. good idea`
`03:35.15`	`Agouti`	`but hardly funny`
`03:35.31`	`Agouti`	`would be a lot less overhead to just use set var`
`03:35.53`	`Agouti`	`as I would say add all players in player group to player group would likely loop through and all that stuff`
`03:36.04`	`JademusSreg`	`I have a perpetually festive demeanor, ever in a state of infinite jest, given no recourse in this apathetic and absurd cosmos.`
`03:36.29`	`tampa1adam`	`ok will some1 help me test my map`
`03:36.30`	`tampa1adam`	`on NA`
`03:36.47`	`JademusSreg`	`Naw, my daughter is watching youtube and I'm doing shit in Terraria.`
`03:36.52`	`Caz`	`I pretty much assume anything Nash would turn his nose at, Jade would see fit to laugh at it. Eternally identical scenarios with moderately altered response.`
`03:37.23`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`03:37.26`	`Caz`	`^^`
`03:37.42`	`tampa1adam`	`please help me test :D`
`03:38.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Tampa, Florida, eh? I hail from Saint Augustine.`
`03:39.21`	`JademusSreg`	`(The city, not the theologian.)`
`03:39.53`	`Mephs`	`ew i'm sorry`
`03:40.42`	`JademusSreg`	`I do not live there anymore. Living in a tourist city is goddamn dreadful.`
`03:41.15`	`tampa1adam`	`tampa sucks`
`03:43.24`	`tampa1adam`	`ok`
`03:43.26`	`tampa1adam`	`new question`
`03:43.27`	`tampa1adam`	`in lobby`
`03:43.35`	`tampa1adam`	`why would it makes 5 players on team 1, and 3 on team 2`
`03:43.47`	`tampa1adam`	`when in game variants, I have p1-4 on team 1, p5-8 on team 2`
`03:44.03`	`tampa1adam`	`I only have 1 variant`
`03:45.27`	`tampa1adam`	`at least this is incredibly frustrating`
`03:45.32`	`tampa1adam`	`I love frustration personally`
`03:47.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Not enough input.`
`03:47.27`	`JademusSreg`	`Which is to say, I dunno enough about the system to even guess.`
`03:47.59`	`tampa1adam`	`ok fixed it`
`03:48.37`	`slightlyrandom1`	`(Give details when you fix a problem, so others can benefit from your wisdom)`
`03:48.38`	`tampa1adam`	`want to help me test it jade`
`03:48.55`	`tampa1adam`	`on the Game Variants, Player Attributes tab, theres a drop down box called Teams`
`03:49.05`	`tampa1adam`	`I changed that to "2 teams" instead of "Custom"`
`03:49.34`	`slightlyrandom1`	`You shall be remembered through the ages as "That guy who did the thing"`
`03:50.14`	`tampa1adam`	`will u help me test the map`
`03:50.32`	`tampa1adam`	`youll be remembered as the guy who I put in the credits`
`03:50.38`	`slightlyrandom1`	`Afraid I am about to turn horizontal`
`03:50.53`	`tampa1adam`	`naptime?`
`03:50.59`	`slightlyrandom1`	`Bedtime`
`03:51.07`	`tampa1adam`	`isnt that just a long nap?`
`03:51.09`	`slightlyrandom1`	`Way over my`
`03:51.11`	`slightlyrandom1`	`Well`
`03:52.59`	`tampa1adam`	`:(`
`03:55.56`	`tampa1adam`	`my map is on version 6 incrementing by .1 each publish`
`03:56.22`	`Mephs`	`can any of you voice act`
`03:56.22`	`JademusSreg`	`It will go from .9 to .10, not 1.0`
`03:56.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Nope.`
`03:58.31`	`Mephs`	`i dont know why i even asked that`
`04:02.37`	`Vailreth`	`i like to think i can Mephs`
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`04:04.24`	`Jack[RCDF`	`I forget, does sc2 require tris or can you use quads and/or ngons?`
`04:04.51`	`Vailreth`	`well im out folks`
`04:09.10`	`Jack[RCDF`	`nvm`
`04:09.49`	`Agouti`	`my patch testing version is on 1.153`
`04:09.51`	`Agouti`	`>_>`
`04:11.00`	`tampa1adam`	`thx for the help btw agouti`
`04:11.22`	`Agouti`	`no problemo`
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`04:12.56`	`tampa1adam`	`im still having an awkward problem though`
`04:13.03`	`tampa1adam`	`if I start the game`
`04:13.09`	`tampa1adam`	`and move myself to team 2`
`04:13.22`	`tampa1adam`	`oh nevermind`
`04:17.09`	`tampa1adam`	`how do I say If this player is on the Team 2 variable then do this`
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`04:18.39`	`Agouti`	`Agouti>30 Boolean Player Is In Player Group`
`04:18.41`	`tampa1adam`	`(Player Group((Picked Player))) == Team 2`
`04:19.01`	`Agouti`	`if course not`
`04:19.11`	`Agouti`	`all that is doing is typecasting a player to a player group`
`04:19.21`	`Agouti`	`that player group will of course only contain that player`
`04:19.21`	`tampa1adam`	`I have that in an IF condition`
`04:19.27`	`tampa1adam`	`thats a comparison`
`04:19.32`	`Agouti`	`yes.`
`04:19.42`	`Agouti`	`imagine groups as an array`
`04:20.03`	`Agouti`	`the Player Group() typecast simply converts a player to a single element array (player group) containing that player`
`04:20.34`	`Agouti`	`so unless Team 2 is the same - i.e., contains only that player - then that comparison will be false`
`04:21.11`	`Agouti`	`you want the native function`
`04:21.15`	`Agouti`	`Player in Player Group`
`04:21.48`	`tampa1adam`	`I see`
`04:22.06`	`tampa1adam`	`so it should be ((Triggering player) is in Team 1) == true`
`04:22.27`	`Agouti`	`if triggering player is appropriate in that context`
`04:22.37`	`Agouti`	`last line you used Picked Player`
`04:22.48`	`tampa1adam`	`it should be triggering player`
`04:23.23`	`Agouti`	`on a slightly unrelated note, you cannot use Triggering [blah] functions in any action which has a Wait in it`
`04:23.50`	`Agouti`	`if you do you need to set a local variable to it at the start and refer to the var later`
`04:24.02`	`tampa1adam`	`is that why my respawn timer dialog shows for all the players when it gets called`
`04:24.24`	`Agouti`	`I have no idea`
`04:24.27`	`tampa1adam`	`:D`
`04:24.30`	`Agouti`	`without looking at it`
`04:25.03`	`tampa1adam`	`this shit is motherfucking hard`
`04:26.28`	`Agouti`	`it's the easiest part of GE >_>`
`04:26.41`	`Agouti`	`well, I suppose that would be the terrain, actually`
`04:26.56`	`Agouti`	`it's much the same as any other programming language`
`04:27.06`	`Agouti`	`you shouldn't have any problems once you get used to the interface`
`04:29.19`	`Agouti`	`JademusSreg, quick question if you are here: best way to make an effect reset a cooldown on an ability?`
`04:29.37`	`Agouti`	`I'm assuming you use Modify Unit but I can't see exactly how it should work`
`04:30.07`	`Agouti`	`oh, unless you set Ability Cooldown Fraction to 1`
`04:30.15`	`Agouti`	`didn't see that`
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`04:48.01`	`tordy`	`so what are you guys doin`
`04:48.39`	`Agouti`	`guess`
`04:48.42`	`Agouti`	`I'll give you a clue`
`04:48.48`	`Agouti`	`it involves editing galaxies`
`04:48.56`	`Agouti`	`galaxys?`
`04:49.00`	`Agouti`	`one of the 2`
`04:49.00`	`tordy`	`are you god or something`
`04:49.15`	`Agouti`	`weeeell`
`04:49.21`	`tordy`	`that's crazy man, yo add some more earth-like planets in our milky way`
`04:49.37`	`Agouti`	`well the problem is`
`04:49.45`	`Agouti`	`the temp range is pretty small`
`04:50.11`	`Agouti`	`and faith is the source of my power`
`04:50.17`	`Agouti`	`proof denies faith`
`04:50.22`	`Agouti`	`and without faith I am nothing`
`04:50.48`	`tampa1adam`	`I believe`
`04:51.00`	`Agouti`	`by the by`
`04:51.09`	`Agouti`	`if you haven't read Small Gods by Terry Pratchet`
`04:51.12`	`Agouti`	`you need to`
`04:51.15`	`Agouti`	`very very good`
`04:51.41`	`tampa1adam`	`agouti would it be hard to implement a capture the flag game`
`04:51.44`	`tordy`	`can we talk about Agouti and how we can pm him suggestions for Island Defense`
`04:52.00`	`tordy`	`mule hotkey as E for the love of god pleeeeeeeeeeeeease`
`04:52.15`	`Agouti`	`tampaladam, not especially, depending on your definition of hard`
`04:52.19`	`Agouti`	`gonna make it W`
`04:52.22`	`Agouti`	`for`
`04:52.23`	`Agouti`	`worker`
`04:52.30`	`Agouti`	`just like Spectres`
`04:52.39`	`tordy`	`good idea`
`04:52.46`	`tordy`	`keep it consistent among all classes`
`04:52.49`	`Agouti`	`trying to standardize all the keys`
`04:52.57`	`Agouti`	`walls and workers as W`
`04:53.21`	`Agouti`	`sentry still has it as B because the hardcore sentry players got upset by it changing`
`04:53.33`	`tordy`	`well screw them`
`04:53.41`	`Agouti`	`heh`
`04:53.47`	`tordy`	`dont let them stand in your way of standardization!`
`04:54.01`	`Agouti`	`I wanted to make all titan abilities QWERT`
`04:54.08`	`Agouti`	`but the items are Q`
`04:54.15`	`Agouti`	`and again I caved in to the bitching`
`04:54.27`	`Agouti`	`so made them ZXCVB`
`04:54.39`	`tordy`	`for the items?`
`04:54.41`	`Agouti`	`which happens to work with Grid key layout`
`04:54.44`	`Agouti`	`no, the abilities`
`04:54.56`	`Agouti`	`except burrow`
`04:55.00`	`Agouti`	`which is still W`
`04:55.07`	`Agouti`	`again due to bitching`
`04:55.34`	`tordy`	`burrow should be r`
`04:57.19`	`Agouti`	`probably`
`04:57.56`	`tordy`	`how'd you put the ID options in the menu`
`04:58.00`	`tordy`	`is that layout + dialog`
`04:58.10`	`Agouti`	`neg, that is using Custom Game Menu`
`04:58.19`	`tordy`	`the wht`
`04:58.22`	`tordy`	`so layout?`
`04:58.34`	`Agouti`	`there are a set of functions for modifying the game meny`
`04:58.36`	`Agouti`	`menu*`
`04:58.41`	`Agouti`	`as well as a custom game menu`
`04:58.59`	`tordy`	`you mean triggers?`
`04:59.02`	`tordy`	`im so confused`
`04:59.56`	`Agouti`	`Show/Hide Custom Menu Dialog Item`
`05:00.10`	`Agouti`	`Show/Hide Game Menu Item`
`05:00.34`	`Agouti`	`Show custom menu`
`05:00.34`	`Agouti`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:00.34`	`Agouti`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:00.34`	`Agouti`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:00.34`	`Agouti`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:00.35`	`Agouti`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:00.37`	`Agouti`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:01.51`	`Agouti`	`grrrr`
`05:02.00`	`Agouti`	`I can't get this effect to do what I want it to`
`05:02.03`	`Agouti`	`tordy`
`05:02.08`	`Agouti`	`I demand that you know what I need to do`
`05:02.17`	`Agouti`	`and communicate the steps required`
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`05:04.17`	`tampa1adam`	`is there any way to add a label over a unit`
`05:04.24`	`tampa1adam`	`like i have a beacon that does something`
`05:04.34`	`tampa1adam`	`but u dont know unless u go on it or select it`
`05:06.16`	`Agouti`	`there probably is a way`
`05:06.18`	`Agouti`	`I do not know it`
`05:11.36`	`Caz`	`Tampa1adam, have you looked at "Text Tags" ?`
`05:12.31`	`Caz`	`You can also attach a text tag to a unit`
`05:12.36`	`tordy`	`im asleep`
`05:14.00`	`tampa1adam`	`text tags`
`05:14.13`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Frostwind (~fhbjsdbkj@68.90.11.146)`
`05:14.22`	`Frostwind`	`hi.......`
`05:14.58`	`Caz`	`Hello frost`
`05:15.13`	`tordy`	`no more noise hooray!`
`05:15.26`	`Frostwind`	`is very bored`
`05:16.34`	`Caz`	`I'm not bored, played some infested arena and i'll be back onto working on the TD tutorial shortly ^^`
`05:17.02`	`tampa1adam`	`Gonna make a map called Neural mania where its just a bunch of infestor lined up and u have to neural to the end before it runs out`
`05:17.06`	`tampa1adam`	`whoever gets furthest wins`
`05:17.20`	`tampa1adam`	`:D`
`05:17.30`	`tampa1adam`	`Neuralopolis`
`05:18.21`	`Frostwind`	`has no project to work on anymore due to a problem in his last project`
`05:18.29`	`Caz`	`:s`
`05:18.31`	`tampa1adam`	`help me frostwind`
`05:18.36`	`Frostwind`	`No`
`05:18.50`	`tampa1adam`	`will u help me test my map really quick`
`05:18.55`	`tampa1adam`	`on NA`
`05:19.09`	`Frostwind`	`If I can't finish my project then I won't even bother to help someone with their's`
`05:19.13`	`Frostwind`	`No`
`05:19.14`	`Caz`	`You checking if text tag worked tampa ?`
`05:19.23`	`tampa1adam`	`a few different things caz`
`05:19.31`	`Caz`	`Im in sc2mapster channel on NA server`
`05:19.38`	`Caz`	`feel free to pop in and invite`
`05:20.27`	`tampa1adam`	`k sec`
`05:21.05`	`Caz`	`tampa1adam, my name will be Cazicss. Hitting the bathroom and i'll be right back to take invite.`
`05:21.09`	`Caz`	`<afk>`
`05:21.09`	`tampa1adam`	`so should I use a trigger to add a text tag to a specific unit?`
`05:21.13`	`Caz`	`Uhm`
`05:21.17`	`Frostwind`	`:(`
`05:21.31`	`Caz`	`Well the 2 trigger functions i was looking at were, Create Text Tag and Attach To Unit`
`05:21.33`	`Caz`	`or something like that`
`05:21.38`	`tampa1adam`	`kk`
`05:22.37`	`hawker`	`frostwin`
`05:22.44`	`hawker`	`make a request in teh request forums`
`05:22.51`	`hawker`	`or else stop q.q`
`05:24.56`	`tampa1adam`	`got it`
`05:25.20`	`Agouti`	`hey frostwind`
`05:25.24`	`Agouti`	`if you won't help anyone else`
`05:25.27`	`Agouti`	`I won't help you`
`05:25.29`	`Agouti`	`sk`
`05:25.52`	`Frostwind`	`no one has helped me`
`05:25.56`	`Agouti`	`have a cry`
`05:26.02`	`Agouti`	`that seems to be all you do`
`05:26.27`	`Agouti`	`I have not yet seen you ask for help on a specific matter`
`05:26.31`	`Agouti`	`you just come in and whinge`
`05:26.39`	`Agouti`	`and I have seen you helped`
`05:26.40`	`tampa1adam`	`invite sent caz`
`05:26.48`	`Agouti`	`though you took it with particularly bad grace at the time`
`05:26.49`	`Frostwind`	`I have asked for help many times only get none`
`05:27.06`	`Agouti`	`one what?`
`05:27.14`	`Agouti`	`please name the subjects you have asked for help with`
`05:27.18`	`Agouti`	`and have not recieved`
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`05:27.36`	`Agouti`	`Though with your attitude I don't feel you deserve to be helped`
`05:27.39`	`Frostwind`	`playing 2 animations together`
`05:27.48`	`Agouti`	`cannot be done`
`05:27.49`	`Frostwind`	`only thing I've ever asked for help with`
`05:27.50`	`Agouti`	`next`
`05:27.53`	`Frostwind`	`bullshit`
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`05:28.20`	`Agouti`	`if it is possible nobody but blizzard know how to do it`
`05:28.22`	`Frostwind`	`look at WoW, animations are separate on models and yet can be played together`
`05:28.41`	`Agouti`	`WoW != SC2`
`05:28.42`	`Frostwind`	`no reason SC2 can't do it`
`05:28.49`	`Agouti`	`Agouti> if it is possible nobody but blizzard know how to do it`
`05:29.07`	`Agouti`	`just because WoW uses the same model format`
`05:29.15`	`Agouti`	`does not automatically mean the engines are the same`
`05:29.44`	`Agouti`	`you cannot assume that simply because a totally unrelated game on a totally different engine is capable of something then SC2 must also be`
`05:30.15`	`Agouti`	`that is like saying that SC2 must be capable of everything my media player is capable of simply because they share a sound codec`
`05:30.42`	`Agouti`	`allow me to summarize your complaint so far`
`05:30.43`	`Agouti`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:30.44`	`Agouti`	`<Frostwind> I have asked for help many times only get none`
`05:30.50`	`Agouti`	`<Frostwind> playing 2 animations together`
`05:30.52`	`Frostwind`	`everyone refuses to help anyways`
`05:30.54`	`Agouti`	`<Frostwind> only thing I've ever asked for help with.`
`05:30.59`	`Agouti`	`nobody refuses to help`
`05:31.05`	`Agouti`	`nobody has a clue how to do it`
`05:31.09`	`Agouti`	`and most feel it is impossible`
`05:31.16`	`Agouti`	`talk about a huge sense of expectation`
`05:31.31`	`Agouti`	`and what have you contributed to that entitles you to help on this sort of level?`
`05:31.44`	`Agouti`	`Nothing, as far as I can tell.`
`05:32.22`	`Frostwind`	`i haven't even finished my project yet, thats why`
`05:32.30`	`Agouti`	`Riiight`
`05:32.39`	`Agouti`	`and everyone else here has?`
`05:33.02`	`Agouti`	`you need to grow up son`
`05:34.17`	`Agouti`	`Only when you have contributed are you deserving of contributions`
`05:34.31`	`Agouti`	`Unless, of course, you want to pay me`
`05:35.20`	`Frostwind`	`i can contribute when I can't even finish my project`
`05:35.38`	`Frostwind`	`all because no one will help me with the problem in my project`
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`05:36.04`	`Agouti`	`Nobody knows how to do what you want`
`05:36.12`	`Agouti`	`when will this sink through your thick skull?`
`05:36.26`	`Agouti`	`In addition everyone believes it impossible`
`05:36.37`	`Agouti`	`and you are yet to provide even a scrap of evidence to the contrary`
`05:36.40`	`Agouti`	`grow up kid`
`05:36.54`	`Agouti`	`you are nothing but a leech`
`05:39.29`	`Frostwind`	`you're an idiot`
`05:39.57`	`Agouti`	`That is right, everyone else is the problem`
`05:40.05`	`Agouti`	`another classic sign of immaturirty`
`05:40.26`	`Agouti`	`immaturity*`
`05:40.28`	`Caz`	`tampa1adam dont sneak off before i make u look at mine :P`
`05:41.54`	`hawker`	`oh god, is this still going on -____-`
`05:42.10`	`Caz`	`what is going on ?`
`05:42.24`	`hawker`	`frostwind, it's being established to a far more than satisfactory extent that no one either can and will help you with your goddamned problem.`
`05:42.40`	`hawker`	`make a thread in the request forums for someont to do it in 3DS max if you can't`
`05:42.45`	`tampa1adam`	`oh sry caz`
`05:42.47`	`tampa1adam`	`u need help`
`05:42.54`	`Frostwind`	`no one has even tried their hand at the problem`
`05:42.57`	`Agouti`	`I have`
`05:42.59`	`Frostwind`	`just assume`
`05:43.00`	`Agouti`	`faggot`
`05:43.02`	`Agouti`	`now fuck off`
`05:43.17`	`hawker`	`Frostwin, stop calling people liars`
`05:43.32`	`hawker`	`You are trying the patience of people who are not invested in your problem`
`05:43.37`	`Agouti`	`the only possible way 2 animations can play at once is with 2 actors`
`05:43.41`	`Agouti`	`such as a turret and unit`
`05:43.42`	`hawker`	`But are merely trying to be nice denizens of mpater`
`05:43.45`	`Agouti`	`even then it's glitchy`
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`05:43.50`	`Agouti`	`what you want is not possible`
`05:43.54`	`Agouti`	`have a cry to blizzard`
`05:43.56`	`Agouti`	`fucking emo`
`05:44.01`	`hawker`	`possible in 3DS max`
`05:44.06`	`hawker`	`i made a thread`
`05:44.15`	`hawker`	`make a thread in the request forums`
`05:44.20`	`hawker`	`--________--`
`05:44.31`	`Frostwind`	`hawker, if you say thats how then try it in the editor`
`05:44.42`	`Agouti`	`How about YOU try it`
`05:44.45`	`hawker`	`what/`
`05:44.49`	`Agouti`	`you have wasted enough of our time already`
`05:44.50`	`hawker`	`I don't have 3DS max.`
`05:44.52`	`Agouti`	`it is your problem`
`05:44.56`	`Frostwind`	`I dunno what a turret is in the editor`
`05:45.03`	`Agouti`	`also your problem`
`05:45.03`	`hawker`	`Learn.`
`05:45.16`	`Frostwind`	`I've seen turret in the editor`
`05:45.26`	`Agouti`	`Immortals have a turret`
`05:45.33`	`Frostwind`	`hawker, my problem is SC2 related`
`05:45.34`	`Agouti`	`the top moves independantly of the base`
`05:45.46`	`Agouti`	`as such, it is possible to have an animation play on the turret and the base`
`05:45.50`	`Agouti`	`however it is glitchy as fuck`
`05:45.54`	`Agouti`	`and works badly`
`05:45.58`	`hawker`	`You received a pretty damn clear explanation from Doctor SuperEvil`
`05:45.59`	`Agouti`	`sometimes not at all`
`05:46.09`	`hawker`	`Who is much more proficient with the editor than you are`
`05:46.15`	`Agouti`	`people who know far more than you do have told you the truth`
`05:46.19`	`Agouti`	`wake up and accept it`
`05:46.24`	`hawker`	`It. Requires. Work. In. 3DS. Max.`
`05:46.32`	`hawker`	`Make a thread or do it yourself`
`05:46.50`	`Agouti`	`I get payed $40 an hour`
`05:46.53`	`hawker`	`Alternatively, you could spend weeks on end crying in the irc and calling those who have tried to help you liars`
`05:46.53`	`Agouti`	`if you want my help`
`05:46.56`	`Agouti`	`you can pay me`
`05:46.59`	`Agouti`	`until that point`
`05:47.13`	`Agouti`	`You have more than exhausted my charitability`
`05:47.57`	`Agouti`	`I spent many, many hours helping people in here, and even I don't bitch and moan as much as you when nobody knows the answer to my problems`
`05:47.59`	`Agouti`	`and I have many`
`05:48.35`	`hawker`	`I did as much as I could with my knowledge of the editor`
`05:48.42`	`hawker`	`And you got a reply in that thread`
`05:49.38`	`Agouti`	`on other news, are you familiar with the Modify Unit effect hawker?`
`05:50.28`	`hawker`	`sadly, ni`
`05:50.30`	`hawker`	`:(`
`05:50.39`	`Agouti`	`never mind`
`05:50.55`	`hawker`	`once terrain is done for my map i am going to force myself to become proficient with triggers and data`
`05:50.58`	`hawker`	`for know...`
`05:51.01`	`hawker`	`*now`
`05:51.05`	`hawker`	`that was embarassing`
`05:51.05`	`Agouti`	`heh`
`05:51.09`	`hawker`	`:P`
`05:51.15`	`Agouti`	`it's already on qdb`
`05:51.17`	`Agouti`	`unlucky`
`05:52.28`	`tampa1adam`	`I appreciate your helpfulness agouti`
`05:52.33`	`tampa1adam`	`!!!`
`05:52.43`	`Agouti`	`I know :)`
`05:53.14`	`Agouti`	`the things which get on my nerves are people with a huge sense of entitlement`
`05:53.27`	`Agouti`	`especially when they are too lazy to do footwork themselves`
`05:53.35`	`Agouti`	`that and rodrigo`
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`05:57.58`	`Agouti`	`me pokes JademusSreg`
`05:58.06`	`Agouti`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:59.09`	`Agouti`	`pokes Deaod`
`05:59.23`	`hawker`	`gn all`
`05:59.24`	`hawker`	`gn`
`05:59.30`	`Agouti`	`take care`
`06:02.47`	`tordy`	`nooooooo`
`06:03.35`	`Agouti`	`tordy! perhaps you know about Modify Unit effects? :D`
`06:07.18`	`tordy`	`what about em`
`06:08.38`	`Agouti`	`trying to make an ability go into cooldown with one`
`06:09.01`	`Agouti`	`I think Cost - Ability - Fraction - Cooldown might do it`
`06:09.07`	`Agouti`	`but I can't get it to work`
`06:09.33`	`Agouti`	`I've had problems getting Cost based fields to work before, though, I may just be doing it wrong`
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`06:28.38`	`Agouti`	`currydevil`
`06:28.46`	`Agouti`	`what are the chances you can help >_>`
`06:28.48`	`Currydevil`	`yes?`
`06:28.53`	`Agouti`	`I've spent all day on this`
`06:28.56`	`Agouti`	`very frstrating`
`06:28.57`	`Currydevil`	`with?`
`06:29.06`	`Agouti`	`I need to reset the cooldown on an ability`
`06:29.08`	`Agouti`	`as in`
`06:29.21`	`Agouti`	`when a unit is the target of an ability`
`06:29.30`	`Agouti`	`it puts an ability on that unit into cooldown`
`06:29.41`	`Agouti`	`I think it can be done with Modify Unit effect`
`06:29.45`	`Agouti`	`but I can't get it to work`
`06:29.59`	`Agouti`	`it IS in the Cost + field`
`06:30.05`	`Currydevil`	`so, forcing a spell into cooldown without using it`
`06:30.07`	`Agouti`	`and I'm not sure I'm using it correctly`
`06:30.11`	`Agouti`	`basically, yes`
`06:30.16`	`Currydevil`	`hmm`
`06:30.25`	`Agouti`	`I'm sure there is a trigger solution but I really want to avoid that if possible`
`06:30.35`	`Currydevil`	`ofc`
`06:30.37`	`Agouti`	`Modify Unit has a box for you to select an ability`
`06:30.50`	`Agouti`	`and a Fraction -> Cooldown field`
`06:31.03`	`Agouti`	`but I can't get anything in that Cooldown field to work`
`06:31.10`	`Agouti`	`I'm really not sure what I am doing wrong`
`06:31.16`	`Agouti`	`er`
`06:31.25`	`Agouti`	`Agouti> but I can't get anything in that Cost+ field to wor`
`06:31.30`	`Agouti`	`k`
`06:31.38`	`Currydevil`	`ok`
`06:32.42`	`Agouti`	`I suspect it won't do what I want it to even if I could get it to work`
`06:32.58`	`Agouti`	`as I think it might just modify the cooldown settings for the ability instead of putting it into cooldown`
`06:33.13`	`Currydevil`	`ok`
`06:33.22`	`Currydevil`	`lemme see, i'm going to make one and see if it does anything`
`06:35.16`	`Agouti`	`thanks`
`06:36.23`	`Agouti`	`one of the issues is even doing it via triggers is tricky, as the ability which needs to trigger it is AoE`
`06:40.05`	`Agouti`	`so will likely need some horrid workaround for the event`
`06:40.27`	`Currydevil`	`done.`
`06:40.33`	`Currydevil`	`=P`
`06:40.35`	`Agouti`	`.... oh?`
`06:40.38`	`Currydevil`	`yes ;)`
`06:40.42`	`Agouti`	`I... am not worthy`
`06:40.47`	`Currydevil`	`=D`
`06:40.58`	`Agouti`	`'le puppy eyes`
`06:41.07`	`Currydevil`	`Well, the only thing atm is this, i'm not sure how the numbers are working out. lemme check it agin rq`
`06:41.15`	`Agouti`	`tybm`
`06:41.17`	`Agouti`	`tyvm*`
`06:41.56`	`Agouti`	`don't tell me it was just Charge -1...`
`06:42.17`	`Agouti`	`if so I may be forced to slap myself with a large salmon`
`06:42.27`	`Agouti`	`or at least a fillet of hoki`
`06:42.48`	`Caz`	`Im having an issue where half the buttons for my probe dont show up D:`
`06:43.00`	`Agouti`	`oh`
`06:43.12`	`Agouti`	`that can be caused by bad ability links`
`06:43.27`	`Currydevil`	`Nah, it was a different field entirely`
`06:43.39`	`Agouti`	`like if the ability doesn't have the command or it isn't selected in the command card`
`06:43.50`	`Agouti`	`also check the command card for a blank button on top`
`06:44.06`	`Currydevil`	`ok, so this is what I got: you make the modify unit and in cost you pick the ability and the field you want to modify is Usage Cooldown`
`06:44.22`	`Agouti`	`ohh`
`06:44.27`	`Currydevil`	`all the way at the bottom`
`06:44.34`	`Currydevil`	`so, lemme tell you the numbers I got`
`06:44.34`	`Agouti`	`do you set that to f.e. 120 for 2 minutes?`
`06:44.39`	`Currydevil`	`not quite`
`06:45.21`	`Currydevil`	`I set a 30 sec cd on the ability I chose, and tried 30 for usage at first and it put it into a 1-2 sec cd`
`06:45.34`	`Agouti`	`O_o`
`06:45.42`	`Currydevil`	`I have it at 475 atm for usage and that works out to be about 30 seconds`
`06:45.48`	`Currydevil`	`500 is just over 30`
`06:46.00`	`Agouti`	`I shall test this`
`06:46.03`	`Currydevil`	`so, average 15? per second.`
`06:46.07`	`Currydevil`	`120 x 15`
`06:46.17`	`Agouti`	`it could be 16`
`06:46.21`	`Currydevil`	`it could be`
`06:46.28`	`Currydevil`	`i did round down, try 16`
`06:46.30`	`Agouti`	`is a number which crops up elsewhere in terms of timing`
`06:46.48`	`Currydevil`	`well i divided 475 by 30 and got 15.8`
`06:47.11`	`Currydevil`	`would make sense`
`06:47.19`	`Currydevil`	`480 is 30 x 16`
`06:47.27`	`Currydevil`	`and 475 is very near 30 seconds`
`06:47.56`	`Currydevil`	`i'll remember 16 then`
`06:48.01`	`Currydevil`	`could come in handy ;)`
`06:48.20`	`Agouti`	`well found`
`06:48.27`	`Agouti`	`I would never have thought to try that`
`06:48.43`	`Currydevil`	`ty =D`
`06:49.01`	`Currydevil`	`kinda makes sense after the fact`
`06:49.30`	`Agouti`	`in a way`
`06:49.41`	`Agouti`	`still strange about the multiplier needed`
`06:49.45`	`Caz`	`Even the warp in structure button is gone >>`
`06:49.45`	`Currydevil`	`yeah lol`
`06:49.58`	`Caz`	`and its just suppose to go to submenu`
`06:50.02`	`Currydevil`	`did you add them on command page 1?`
`06:50.09`	`Caz`	`yes`
`06:50.11`	`Currydevil`	`ok`
`06:50.17`	`Caz`	`They are below 4 other buttons, which do show up`
`06:50.35`	`Currydevil`	`well, i feel awesome now ;) before you asked me I had no idea. So I figured i'd try that field first.`
`06:50.47`	`Agouti`	`you ARE awesome`
`06:50.49`	`Agouti`	`accept the fact`
`06:50.52`	`Caz`	`hm ?`
`06:51.00`	`tordy`	`so now waht`
`06:51.02`	`Currydevil`	`woo!`
`06:51.52`	`Currydevil`	`now I need to try some offsets and see if I can fix some missiles.`
`06:52.17`	`Caz`	`how can a submenu button be broken at all`
`06:52.20`	`Caz`	`there's no ability to link to..`
`06:52.24`	`Currydevil`	`if i wanted to make a model appear further away from my gun (raynor) would that just be an X offset? or X Y?`
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`06:52.40`	`Currydevil`	`I dunno Caz =(`
`06:53.08`	`Agouti`	`Caz, I've had weird problems like that before`
`06:53.34`	`Agouti`	`the only way I could fix it was to duplicate the unit, delete the original, then rename it back`
`06:53.54`	`Agouti`	`and fix up the unit actor if required`
`06:55.51`	`Caz`	`sigh.. duplicated it ..deleted the original .. changed name and id back to what origina'ls was`
`06:55.53`	`Caz`	`still no button`
`06:56.52`	`Frall`	`Hi I got a problem: I am unable to add new road to the north part of my map, it got exactly the same texture as the south part where I got road already. I can build a road from south up to north without a problem but I am not able to create a new road section there. My map is pritty large fron north so south.`
`06:56.58`	`Agouti`	`do you want to put the map on dropbox for me to have a look at it caz?`
`06:57.20`	`Agouti`	`I don't know anything about roads I'm afraid Frall`
`06:57.36`	`Frall`	`ok :(`
`06:59.34`	`Currydevil`	`eww, a x=2 y=2 offset puts the model behind my unit lol`
`07:00.53`	`Agouti`	`yeah, negative Y is forwards`
`07:00.59`	`Currydevil`	`ohhh`
`07:00.59`	`Currydevil`	`ok`
`07:01.02`	`Frall`	`Its really wierd :S`
`07:01.02`	`Currydevil`	`so y is forward`
`07:04.19`	`Agouti`	`technically backwards`
`07:04.27`	`Agouti`	`;)`
`07:05.17`	`Agouti`	`I just noticed`
`07:05.27`	`Agouti`	`thor protraits are no longer disco town`
`07:05.36`	`Agouti`	`all the multicolored lights are gone`
`07:06.11`	`Caz`	`Weird`
`07:06.26`	`Caz`	`the submenu button shows up, until i tell it which command page to go to`
`07:06.37`	`Caz`	`soon as i set it to 1-2-3- or 4 it disappears`
`07:06.45`	`Caz`	`the other button still never appearing`
`07:06.46`	`Caz`	`hmmm`
`07:07.03`	`Agouti`	`you aren't doing something silly like stacking buttons?`
`07:07.22`	`Caz`	`when clicking on the square it only lists 1 button`
`07:07.45`	`Caz`	`But i did accidently stack them at one point, and had to delete`
`07:07.59`	`Currydevil`	`meh, offsets only effect other models i attach to the weapon, not the missiles coming out of them lol`
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`07:09.30`	`Currydevil`	`oh well, it's only a slight difference in location that you can see.`
`07:10.04`	`Currydevil`	`my other problem atm though is i'm trying to animate my ability with a prep time but the model i am using to animate it is getting destroyed long before the missile fires =(`
`07:13.31`	`Currydevil`	`actor timers must be going in game time? or something... it's destroying way too fast`
`07:14.08`	`Caz`	`alright ive got the submenu back, but unable to get my "Warp In Photon Tower" button to appear`
`07:14.28`	`Caz`	`Not sure if i screwed up the ability :x`
`07:15.52`	`Caz`	`HAHAHA`
`07:16.00`	`Frall`	`Tried to record my problem but fraps did not pick up my mic only editor sounds :/`
`07:16.14`	`Frall`	`ah found problem to that :P`
`07:16.19`	`Frall`	`will try again`
`07:16.21`	`Caz`	`Agouti, somehow when i was going through the ability the first time. I scrolled the requirements listbox on accident and my photon needed some kind of banshee upgrade to appear.`
`07:16.30`	`Caz`	`Removing the restriction made it appear.`
`07:17.32`	`Currydevil`	`lol`
`07:17.48`	`Currydevil`	`i was going to ask you that but i didnt think it was the prob`
`07:18.31`	`Caz`	`Neither did i since i never decided to touch it.. but there was a misclick apparently`
`07:18.56`	`Currydevil`	`i did that once though`
`07:19.09`	`Currydevil`	`set one of my abilities to require the hive`
`07:19.28`	`Currydevil`	`or hatchery anyways`
`07:23.22`	`Currydevil`	`i've made a power shot type ability for my raynor. he charges up and fires a blast of plasma at target. so i set a 2 sec prepare time on the ability. in the actor event for the model, i set it to create on prep start. but the launch missile doesn't occur immediately after the prep ends, it waits about a second or two`
`07:24.07`	`Currydevil`	`no matter the amount of time i set via a timer to prolong the life of the model to match the timing of the launch, my model gets destroyed either way`
`07:24.17`	`Currydevil`	`i'm assuming it's dying when the prep ends?`
`07:25.47`	`JademusSreg`	`I'll be leaving my Terraria server idle while I sleep.`
`07:26.38`	`JademusSreg`	`Which is imminently.`
`07:26.39`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`07:27.23`	`Agouti`	`back + reading`
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`07:29.56`	`JademusSreg`	`Just finished building a dungeon that new spawns will need to traverse to gain access to the map, and then spent ~a half hour navigating it myself. Fun times.`
`07:30.00`	`JademusSreg`	`And now sleep time.`
`07:30.09`	`Agouti`	`curry, I'm not familiar with Prep`
`07:30.16`	`Agouti`	`I think you should be using Source Cast Start`
`07:30.35`	`Currydevil`	`ok`
`07:30.36`	`Agouti`	`that will (if you don't change the time scale) make the animation take the same length of time as the Cast does`
`07:30.55`	`Agouti`	`if you want to set it by hand change it to Duration and the time you want`
`07:34.33`	`Currydevil`	`some how i have a firebatattackflame attached to another ability and i swear i set the model to nullfield xD`
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`07:37.21`	`coffee`	`sup sons`
`07:37.43`	`Caz`	`Hey curry, the problem with my photon the other day got worked out also. The one where screen was too blurry to copy data editor stuff in the tutorial lol`
`07:37.55`	`Currydevil`	`cool cool`
`07:38.14`	`Guest26677`	`wtf`
`07:38.25`	`sup`	`sup sons`
`07:38.39`	`Caz`	`The editor auto-generated the attack Art-Missile to PhotonAttack2Missile instead of PhotonAttackMissile2 :\|`
`07:39.42`	`Currydevil`	`ah`
`07:40.50`	`Currydevil`	`my editor is playing tricks on me`
`07:41.17`	`Currydevil`	`it's mixing my abilities together?`
`07:41.45`	`Currydevil`	`somehow, without my doing (intentionally) two of my abilites are now mislinked to each other so the actors are playing on the wrong units.`
`07:43.07`	`Currydevil`	`ah nvm, somehow I edited the actor events of the wrong actor.`
`07:43.10`	`Currydevil`	`Stupid mouse.`
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`07:57.21`	`tampa1adam`	`caz how do I add those unit icons?`
`07:58.13`	`mapsterman`	`coffee son? Â¯\_(ã)ã`
`07:58.35`	`mapsterman`	`add icon..`
`07:58.42`	`mapsterman`	`import tab son`
`07:58.47`	`Caz`	`Create a dialog item (image)`
`07:58.47`	`Frall`	`Please take a look at my sc2 map editor bug: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W2b2IWR3Z0&feature=youtube_gdata`
`07:58.54`	`Caz`	`then everything else will remind you of button placement`
`08:00.26`	`tampa1adam`	`k`
`08:02.27`	`Agouti`	`Frall, is it possible to start a road at the upper level and continue it down`
`08:02.33`	`Agouti`	`then delete the first part of the road?`
`08:02.48`	`Frall`	`nope :/`
`08:02.56`	`Frall`	`then it becomes invisible`
`08:03.00`	`Frall`	`again`
`08:04.17`	`Agouti`	`:s`
`08:04.28`	`tampa1adam`	`i like the look of ur map frall`
`08:04.30`	`Currydevil`	`Hmm, question: is it possible to activate an effect on a weapon or apply an effect to a weapon? I have a bleed effect for my marine weapon.. but i can't think of a way to make it work without being applied from the weapon itself`
`08:04.36`	`mapsterman`	`who made dat battlefield middleeast thing`
`08:04.43`	`Frall`	`Thanks :)`
`08:04.44`	`mapsterman`	`i saw it on 3rd page today`
`08:05.04`	`Agouti`	`uh curry`
`08:05.13`	`Agouti`	`weapons deal damage using an effect`
`08:05.21`	`Agouti`	`simply change that effect to what you want?`
`08:05.26`	`Agouti`	`A set, if need be?`
`08:05.26`	`Currydevil`	`yes, but the effect is attached on the weapon`
`08:05.30`	`Currydevil`	`It is.`
`08:05.38`	`Currydevil`	`I have it doing the bleed and what not`
`08:05.53`	`Agouti`	`so, what is the issue?`
`08:06.02`	`Currydevil`	`but I was aiming to have an ability I could turn on/off to do the bleed damage.`
`08:06.19`	`Agouti`	`simply use a validator`
`08:06.27`	`Agouti`	`have the ability apply a behaviour`
`08:06.31`	`Currydevil`	`have it turned on = every shot applies bleed damage. turn it off, no bleed`
`08:06.36`	`Agouti`	`the validator on the bleed effect looks for that behaviour`
`08:06.38`	`Currydevil`	`drain energy with use`
`08:06.45`	`Agouti`	`likewise`
`08:06.50`	`Agouti`	`have the effect as part of the set`
`08:06.59`	`Agouti`	`that takes energy away`
`08:07.16`	`Agouti`	`have a validator that looks for the behaviour`
`08:07.40`	`Agouti`	`and then have a validator on the behaviour that in addition makes sure the unit has enough energy to cast`
`08:07.48`	`Agouti`	`on (disable)`
`08:08.02`	`Currydevil`	`ok, well atm let's ignore the energy thing. i can get to that later`
`08:08.06`	`Currydevil`	`so`
`08:08.33`	`Currydevil`	`I have a set on the weapon that applies marine damage and a 10% chance to apply a bleeding debuff to target`
`08:08.51`	`Currydevil`	`so where is this validator going?`
`08:09.20`	`Agouti`	`on the effect that applies the bleed`
`08:10.03`	`Currydevil`	`ok, so the validator would be count behavior equal to 1 yes?`
`08:10.41`	`Agouti`	`correct`
`08:10.47`	`Agouti`	`unit compare behaviour count`
`08:14.32`	`tampa1adam`	`agouti care to offer more assistance`
`08:15.27`	`Agouti`	`whats up?`
`08:15.57`	`tampa1adam`	`hold gonna try to fix it myself really quick`
`08:16.10`	`Agouti`	`lol`
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`08:16.37`	`tampa1adam`	`:)`
`08:16.41`	`tampa1adam`	`jsut saw a potential bug`
`08:17.07`	`Caz`	`blegh, lost internetz`
`08:17.22`	`Currydevil`	`is auto cast the flag to make an ability turn on/off like cloak?`
`08:17.45`	`Agouti`	`no, on a behaviour like that you want Toggle`
`08:18.08`	`Agouti`	`autocast is used on things like medic heal`
`08:18.18`	`Agouti`	`or carriers to build interceptors`
`08:18.29`	`Currydevil`	`so, where is this toggle?`
`08:18.40`	`Agouti`	`flags on the ability`
`08:19.06`	`Currydevil`	`I don't see a toggle though`
`08:19.54`	`Agouti`	`it is there`
`08:20.01`	`Agouti`	`under Flags`
`08:20.01`	`Currydevil`	`i know on a ghost though it's a set of two abilities. one adds the cloak, the other removes it.`
`08:20.13`	`Currydevil`	`stats flags on the ability?`
`08:20.31`	`Agouti`	`something like that`
`08:21.28`	`Agouti`	`I'm not familiar with how the ghost is built`
`08:21.54`	`Currydevil`	`i still don't see a toggle though.`
`08:23.15`	`Agouti`	`I don't know what to say`
`08:23.16`	`Agouti`	`it is there`
`08:23.17`	`Agouti`	`FieldImmortal - Supercharge Shields`
`08:23.18`	`Agouti`	`Stats - FlagsToggle`
`08:23.59`	`Currydevil`	`what is the ability type?`
`08:24.14`	`Agouti`	`Behaviour, as I said`
`08:25.48`	`Currydevil`	`that would be why. do i even need the apply behavior effect then?`
`08:26.02`	`Agouti`	`no`
`08:26.44`	`Agouti`	`remember you will need to add both toggle on and toggle off under Ability - Commands`
`08:27.01`	`Agouti`	`likewise both will need to be added to the command card`
`08:27.13`	`Currydevil`	`yeah just saw it. that's what the ghost has.`
`08:27.15`	`tampa1adam`	`yeah agouti it still dont work :(`
`08:27.40`	`Agouti`	`waits for details`
`08:29.47`	`Agouti`	`sadly Currydevil I had to end up using triggers for the cooldown on the ability`
`08:30.08`	`Agouti`	`as using that modify unit effect would only work when the ability was not already in cooldown`
`08:30.24`	`Agouti`	`f.e. if it had 10 seconds left of cooldown it would not get reset`
`08:30.30`	`Currydevil`	`yeah, only problem`
`08:31.07`	`Agouti`	`which means I need to get this event sorted`
`08:31.18`	`Agouti`	`I suspect I'm going to end up with something stupid`
`08:31.30`	`Agouti`	`like a dummy ability with an effect that orders it to be used`
`08:31.31`	`Agouti`	`or something`
`08:38.49`	`Agouti`	`got away with Environment - Effect`
`08:38.52`	`Agouti`	`as a aside`
`08:39.07`	`Agouti`	`if want to reset the cooldown on an ability`
`08:39.12`	`Agouti`	`as in, put it into cooldown`
`08:39.26`	`Agouti`	`you have to use Reset Cooldown before useing Apply Cooldown`
`08:39.40`	`tampa1adam`	`sry agouti`
`08:39.43`	`Agouti`	`otherwise it won't re-apply the cooldown if it is already in cooldown`
`08:39.51`	`tampa1adam`	`testing muh map`
`08:44.50`	`Fisker`	`Sixen`
`08:44.53`	`Fisker`	`how awesome am i?`
`08:52.46`	`Currydevil`	`is it possible to attach a model without it following all of the body movements on a unit?`
`08:55.45`	`tampa1adam`	`agouti`
`08:55.46`	`tampa1adam`	`:D`
`08:58.03`	`tampa1adam`	`http://i.imgur.com/s7dz7.jpg`
`08:58.11`	`tampa1adam`	`can you tell me why the timer in that code displays to all users`
`09:06.31`	`tampa1adam`	`anybody`
`09:07.05`	`Currydevil`	`no idea. looks like it should only be that player.`
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`09:07.39`	`tampa1adam`	`yeah I know :(`
`09:07.49`	`tampa1adam`	`all the other actions there happen for the triggering player`
`09:07.55`	`tampa1adam`	`not all of them`
`09:08.20`	`Currydevil`	`tested it i assume?`
`09:08.40`	`tampa1adam`	`yeah`
`09:08.48`	`tampa1adam`	`published it 2 bnet`
`09:08.54`	`tampa1adam`	`and tried with 2 ppl (me and another)`
`09:09.11`	`tampa1adam`	`want to play my map? :D`
`09:12.37`	`tampa1adam`	`:(`
`09:13.50`	`Currydevil`	`not atm, sorry =\|`
`09:14.35`	`tampa1adam`	`ahh`
`09:14.37`	`tampa1adam`	`well thx anyway`
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`09:25.22`	`Agouti`	`back`
`09:25.24`	`Agouti`	`sorry tampa`
`09:25.47`	`Agouti`	`you cannot use Triggering Player in events`
`09:26.00`	`Agouti`	`if you want it to work for any player`
`09:26.06`	`Agouti`	`use Preset - Any Player`
`09:27.56`	`Agouti`	`In addition if you are set on using a wait instead of a second trigger for when the timer finishes`
`09:28.15`	`Agouti`	`you should set the variable for the timer running to true before the wait and false afterwards`
`09:28.50`	`Agouti`	`make those changes then see how it goes`
`09:28.52`	`tampa1adam`	`well the reason for the variable is that whole trigger was happening for all players when it was fired`
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`09:29.02`	`tampa1adam`	`which is cuz of triggering player i guess`
`09:29.07`	`tampa1adam`	`in the event`
`09:29.08`	`Agouti`	`which was likely to do with the event`
`09:29.25`	`tampa1adam`	`but why doesnt the other stuff happen to all the players if it doesnt work`
`09:29.35`	`tampa1adam`	`only the timer`
`09:29.38`	`tampa1adam`	`shows for all`
`09:31.36`	`tampa1adam`	`I dont see any player in the present for the "player property changed" action`
`09:32.31`	`Currydevil`	`it's not there where you have triggering player?`
`09:32.58`	`tampa1adam`	`nope`
`09:33.02`	`tampa1adam`	`not under preset`
`09:33.08`	`tampa1adam`	`(or function)`
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`09:35.15`	`Currydevil`	`looks like you would have to set it specifically then for each player`
`09:38.00`	`tampa1adam`	`that makes me angry`
`09:41.07`	`tampa1adam`	`do you happen to know which MPQ holds the unit dds files?`
`09:41.22`	`Currydevil`	`nope.`
`09:45.23`	`Currydevil`	`bah, this ability animation is annoyinf.`
`09:45.26`	`Currydevil`	`annoying*`
`09:45.42`	`tampa1adam`	`http://elusive-teliko.blogspot.com/2011/04/customise-background-images.html`
`09:45.48`	`Currydevil`	`the actor keeps disappearing before the launch missile effect`
`09:46.10`	`tampa1adam`	`sorry man wish I could help you but I dont know much about that complex stuff`
`09:51.28`	`Agouti`	`tampa`
`09:51.33`	`Agouti`	`it is under Presets`
`09:51.40`	`Agouti`	`Any Player`
`09:51.46`	`Agouti`	`if it really, really isn't there`
`09:51.50`	`Agouti`	`add an event for each player`
`09:52.30`	`Currydevil`	`^ it's not. presets is empty for that event`
`09:57.18`	`tampa1adam`	`the weird ass thing about that whole trigger is that`
`09:57.24`	`tampa1adam`	`it has a condition that needs to be met`
`09:57.27`	`tampa1adam`	`food == 0`
`09:57.39`	`tampa1adam`	`but still others players received that timer`
`09:57.46`	`tampa1adam`	`even if they had a unit`
`09:58.12`	`tampa1adam`	`ill try adding it for each`
`09:58.40`	`tampa1adam`	`btw wtf is the difference between supplies used and supplies made`
`10:02.53`	`Agouti`	`apart from the obvious inferred from the name`
`10:02.56`	`Agouti`	`I'm not sure`
`10:03.30`	`Agouti`	`tampa, you have a dud event`
`10:03.35`	`Agouti`	`who knows what is going on`
`10:05.14`	`tampa1adam`	`yeah I would guess supplies made = amount of supply made throughout the entirety of the game while supplies used = current supply`
`10:28.15`	`tampa1adam`	`anyone know of a way to resize the image in a dialog image?`
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`10:33.11`	`Stewox`	`HELLLO`
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`10:40.12`	`sefessf`	`hello`
`10:40.27`	`sefessf`	`anyone knows how to make an ability that shoots two missiles ?`
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`11:12.19`	`sefessf`	`how to make an ability that shoots two missile pods ?`
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`11:35.40`	`Mexa_`	`so, anything interesting going on?`
`11:36.47`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa (~MexaEU@80.78.216.204)`
`11:38.15`	`tampa1adam`	`how do i make a self sufficient nuke silo`
`11:38.24`	`tampa1adam`	`meaning it can build a nuke and launch it itself`
`11:39.49`	`Mexa`	`test`
`11:39.52`	`Mexa`	`test`
`11:40.11`	`tampa1adam`	`guess his test failed`
`11:40.27`	`Mexa`	`<.<`
`11:40.32`	`Mexa`	`My internet is being a douche`
`11:40.41`	`Mexa`	`I can be in the irc completely`
`11:40.57`	`Mexa`	`But my internet is gone after already 10 minutes of intervals`
`11:41.32`	`Mexa`	`So thus I am forced to manually disconnect/reconnect the wifi... And thus I get dced here.`
`11:41.39`	`Mexa`	`But apparantly some thing still work`
`11:42.01`	`Mexa`	`But I can't browse the web or play any multiplayer games:/`
`11:42.49`	`tampa1adam`	`where in africa are you?`
`11:43.10`	`Mexa`	`in the place called Europe`
`11:43.17`	`Mexa`	`It's not about my ISP`
`11:43.32`	`Mexa`	`As my roomate uses his computer on my network without problems`
`11:43.42`	`Mexa`	`My router doesn't like me or something...`
`11:44.39`	`Mexa`	`hmm, seems like I can only use IRC right now.`
`11:44.52`	`Mexa`	`If anybody sees me :G`
`11:44.54`	`tampa1adam`	`sounds like somebody needs to run combofix`
`11:45.06`	`Mexa`	`combofix?`
`11:45.25`	`tampa1adam`	`a virus remover`
`11:45.33`	`Mexa`	`hm`
`11:46.28`	`Mexa`	`That could be something, very weird tho, I'm usually not going anywhere malicious`
`11:46.51`	`Mexa`	`Then again, this computer is full of bloatshit atm`
`11:47.37`	`Mexa`	`Any good virus/hijacker you suggest?`
`11:48.10`	`tampa1adam`	`http://download.bleepingcomputer.com/protected/35d5cf46158909c08d9edfa3baa1606f/4e241d73/ComboFix.exe`
`11:48.13`	`Mexa`	`I thought have had at least some protection using AVG, Defender and Anti-malwarebytes`
`11:48.25`	`tampa1adam`	`you're using all 3?`
`11:48.31`	`Mexa`	`kindof`
`11:48.40`	`Mexa`	`lol`
`11:48.44`	`tampa1adam`	`AVG sucks, used to be good back in the day`
`11:48.52`	`tampa1adam`	`windows pretender well LOL`
`11:48.57`	`Mexa`	`:>`
`11:49.05`	`tampa1adam`	`malwarebytes is really good, but will only remove viruses`
`11:49.07`	`tampa1adam`	`not prevent them`
`11:49.10`	`Mexa`	`yes`
`11:49.17`	`Mexa`	`Unless you add premium to it`
`11:49.18`	`tampa1adam`	`unless u bought it`
`11:49.36`	`Mexa`	`well, AVG 'was good back in the days'?`
`11:49.40`	`tampa1adam`	`yeah`
`11:49.44`	`tampa1adam`	`like 2007`
`11:49.49`	`Mexa`	`hm`
`11:49.57`	`tampa1adam`	`I've seen computers since then have aVG, but still have virii`
`11:50.03`	`Mexa`	`well`
`11:50.24`	`Mexa`	`Alright`
`11:50.45`	`tampa1adam`	`run the program I linked`
`11:50.59`	`tampa1adam`	`it will scan ur comp and take out any shit`
`11:51.06`	`tampa1adam`	`if it doesnt find anything ur clean`
`11:51.16`	`tampa1adam`	`and u can look at other problems`
`11:51.45`	`Mexa`	`hmm`
`11:51.54`	`Mexa`	`http://www.virustotal.com/file-scan/reanalysis.html?id=df5d6613589086cc614876d8e77cffec36dadb4c95d08a7a57c554058d368e31-1310989658 secure?`
`11:54.02`	`Mexa`	`nircmd I see, never mind I guess`
`11:54.03`	`slightlyrandom`	`You can't rid an OS from a virus from within that OS`
`11:54.26`	`slightlyrandom`	`Technically impossible`
`11:54.47`	`slightlyrandom`	`(Unless the virus isn't very advanced, I guess)`
`11:54.51`	`Mexa`	`You mean getting rid of the rootkit.`
`11:55.14`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yeah, or something running already with admin privileges`
`11:55.46`	`slightlyrandom`	`Remember: The virus has just as much power over your computer as you or any other program you run do`
`11:56.00`	`tampa1adam`	`run the program mexa its not a virus`
`11:56.07`	`Mexa`	`Thanks for putting the spirit up at its highest man..`
`11:56.12`	`tampa1adam`	`http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/`
`11:56.15`	`slightlyrandom`	`Only way to really get rid of it is to not let it execute in the first place: recovery tool, clean the disk from a different, known safe, OS`
`11:56.31`	`slightlyrandom`	`Hey, sorry for injecting reality`
`11:56.31`	`tampa1adam`	`http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/combofix/how-to-use-combofix`
`11:56.50`	`Mexa`	`what about the safe boot option?`
`11:57.14`	`slightlyrandom`	`You can stick a windows or linux install on a USB HD or CD and go from there`
`11:57.21`	`tampa1adam`	`good viruses still put themselves in safe mode`
`11:58.17`	`tampa1adam`	`best way -> save combofix to a USB drive, boot to command line windows (f8 on startup) then run combofix from the thumb drive`
`11:58.47`	`Mexa`	`tampa1adam, thanks, will do this`
`11:59.00`	`slightlyrandom`	`That should do the trick`
`11:59.01`	`Mexa`	`slightlyrandom I meant windows safe mode`
`11:59.12`	`slightlyrandom`	`Don't think such a thing exists :P`
`11:59.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`Oxymorons and all that`
`11:59.29`	`tampa1adam`	`HAHAHAHA`
`11:59.31`	`Mexa`	`The option exists`
`11:59.43`	`Mexa`	`Which is why I asked you about it`
`11:59.44`	`Mexa`	`durrr`
`11:59.46`	`slightlyrandom`	`;)`
`12:00.31`	`slightlyrandom`	`Well, tampa1adams suggestion should be good enough for household work`
`12:00.52`	`Mexa`	`meh, linux`
`12:01.07`	`tampa1adam`	`provided he knows how to switch to his thumb drive via command line`
`12:02.02`	`tampa1adam`	`have you heard of combofix random?`
`12:02.14`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yeah, I keep an Ubuntu LiveCD around for that purpose, can't be bothered to do much command line without internet intructions :P`
`12:02.16`	`slightlyrandom`	`Nope`
`12:02.52`	`Mexa`	`can I use an USB already in use or must it be empty?`
`12:02.57`	`Mexa`	`and reformatted?`
`12:03.02`	`slightlyrandom`	`Haven't run windows in a non-VM environment for a couple of years now`
`12:03.10`	`tampa1adam`	`ahh lol`
`12:03.12`	`tampa1adam`	`mexa`
`12:03.21`	`slightlyrandom`	`You can use whatever`
`12:03.23`	`tampa1adam`	`plug in your usb`
`12:03.26`	`tampa1adam`	`boot to safe mode`
`12:03.29`	`slightlyrandom`	`It only has to be partitioned if you want to boot from it`
`12:03.34`	`tampa1adam`	`switch to your usb drive and run the .exe file`
`12:03.35`	`slightlyrandom`	`And you don't, right now`
`12:03.44`	`Stewox`	`hello`
`12:03.47`	`slightlyrandom`	`Cheerioe`
`12:03.49`	`tampa1adam`	`to switch to another drive, simply type the drive letter and a colon`
`12:03.52`	`Stewox`	`how do i crate an unstoppable engine`
`12:03.57`	`Stewox`	`so a unit will always move`
`12:03.58`	`slightlyrandom`	`MAGIC!`
`12:03.59`	`tampa1adam`	`for instance type in D: to switch to your cd drive`
`12:04.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`What is the purpose?`
`12:04.08`	`Mexa`	`mm`
`12:04.21`	`Stewox`	`it's a ground unit`
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`12:04.38`	`slightlyrandom`	`Should ask, how many of them are there around and what kind of environment are they moving in`
`12:04.51`	`Stewox`	`1`
`12:04.57`	`slightlyrandom`	`There are multiple ways to do what you want, with differing levels of complexity and overhead`
`12:05.04`	`Stewox`	`and 10`
`12:05.07`	`Stewox`	`11 total`
`12:05.26`	`Stewox`	`but i havent made up my mind if i want other 10 to be unstoppable also`
`12:05.30`	`Stewox`	`i think i will`
`12:05.47`	`Stewox`	`but i don't know how to do it with movers`
`12:06.03`	`Stewox`	`MOVERs appear to be very limited in options, nothing to set at all`
`12:06.18`	`Stewox`	`some missile movers have more options but i need a custom mover`
`12:06.34`	`Stewox`	`well i don't need anything special`
`12:06.44`	`Mexa`	`kaay, restarting`
`12:07.15`	`Stewox`	`i just need to oversee all the possiblities , i really hate these stripped down data entries for example Ground Mover has no options at all`
`12:07.16`	`slightlyrandom`	`I did a trigger hack in one map, where I basically intercepted move orders, and issued a new one to the edge of the map in the ordered direction`
`12:07.39`	`Stewox`	`i was thinking of having a missile mover with infinite fuel`
`12:07.42`	`slightlyrandom`	`That only really works for flat, unobstructed terrain though`
`12:07.58`	`Stewox`	`i have flat and unobstructed terrain`
`12:08.02`	`Stewox`	`100%`
`12:08.04`	`slightlyrandom`	`Does giving the unit 0 deceleration work?`
`12:08.10`	`slightlyrandom`	`:P`
`12:08.16`	`Stewox`	`didn't try yet`
`12:08.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`Probably doesn't`
`12:08.28`	`Stewox`	`i want the player to only be able to turn the unit`
`12:08.57`	`slightlyrandom`	`Well, you can steal my trigger hack if you want`
`12:09.09`	`slightlyrandom`	`Involves a couple of regions and some trigonometry`
`12:15.45`	`Stewox`	`how does that work`
`12:15.50`	`Stewox`	`in practise`
`12:17.31`	`Stewox`	`any missile tuts`
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`12:19.44`	`tampa1adam`	`I just made this fun change on my map that broke everything entirely`
`12:19.46`	`tampa1adam`	`how fun`
`12:20.26`	`vailreth`	`yeah i know what thats like,,,`
`12:20.34`	`tampa1adam`	`man I love frustration`
`12:21.02`	`tampa1adam`	`hey look u wanted to add another dialog that shows after your current dialog, now your first dialog is GGed`
`12:22.24`	`vailreth`	`i was working on an ability that spawns a unit and when i had that working it broke the units weapon some how. then when i got that kinda fixed it broke the ability that spawned that unit`
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`12:24.01`	`tampa1adam`	`can you tell me how to properly tie a noose?`
`12:24.14`	`vailreth`	`no`
`12:25.21`	`vailreth`	`well i cant stay awake so im out later folks`
`12:30.24`	`tampa1adam`	`fuck my life entirely :D`
`12:33.58`	`tampa1adam`	`do I have to destroy a dialog before I can show another one?`
`12:36.29`	`tampa1adam`	`FUCK i love the editor SHIT`
`12:38.49`	`tampa1adam`	`finally I found the answer`
`12:38.55`	`tampa1adam`	`It was under the delete key`
`12:39.47`	`tampa1adam`	`when you use the delete key on your map it fixes everything`
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`12:41.44`	`Mexa_`	`hm`
`12:42.03`	`Mexa_`	`what do i do with this log now then?`
`12:42.06`	`Mexa_`	`*I`
`12:42.37`	`Mexa_`	`tampa1adam`
`12:43.48`	`Mexa_`	`I wasn't able to run through the usb btw, had to do it through 'safe mode'`
`12:44.13`	`tampa1adam`	`were you not able to because you didnt know how`
`12:44.17`	`tampa1adam`	`or it wouldnt run`
`12:44.25`	`tampa1adam`	`the log is useless really`
`12:44.32`	`tampa1adam`	`did u watch it run to see if it deleted anything`
`12:44.34`	`Mexa_`	`it gave no option to let me use the usb`
`12:44.56`	`Mexa_`	`I pressed F8, and it came up a bunch of options, neither which would have helped me to run through the usb`
`12:45.13`	`Mexa_`	`The first option however, was windows repair, and it allowed me to open cmd without booting up`
`12:45.22`	`tampa1adam`	`thats not the right one`
`12:45.29`	`Mexa_`	`I know it isn`
`12:45.30`	`Mexa_`	`t`
`12:45.43`	`tampa1adam`	`well at any rate`
`12:45.46`	`tampa1adam`	`it doesnt matter with combofix`
`12:45.49`	`tampa1adam`	`its a good virus remover`
`12:45.59`	`tampa1adam`	`if u were able to run it`
`12:46.03`	`tampa1adam`	`it will remove any virus`
`12:46.03`	`Mexa_`	`It said 'device not ready' when attempting to open the usb`
`12:46.10`	`Mexa_`	`hm okay`
`12:46.19`	`tampa1adam`	`good viruses will stop it from runnning`
`12:46.25`	`tampa1adam`	`thats when you need to do the command line stuff`
`12:46.30`	`Mexa_`	`right`
`12:46.40`	`tampa1adam`	`did you watch it run?`
`12:46.45`	`Mexa_`	`yes`
`12:46.47`	`Mexa_`	`it went fine`
`12:46.54`	`tampa1adam`	`did you see it delete anything?`
`12:47.03`	`Mexa_`	`But it nagged over AVG even though it wasn't an active service and process`
`12:47.14`	`Mexa_`	`So I had to uninstall AVG it said...`
`12:47.20`	`Mexa_`	`nvm tho`
`12:47.22`	`tampa1adam`	`lol u didnt have to uninstall`
`12:47.24`	`tampa1adam`	`it can still run`
`12:47.29`	`Mexa_`	`No`
`12:47.38`	`tampa1adam`	`fine man ur right`
`12:47.42`	`Mexa_`	`It told be explicitly to uninstall AVG`
`12:47.45`	`tampa1adam`	`i know ive been doing this for about 7 years now`
`12:47.46`	`Mexa_`	`It just shut down`
`12:47.48`	`tampa1adam`	`but I take your word`
`12:47.56`	`Mexa_`	`...`
`12:48.24`	`Mexa_`	`Explain to me why it ran after I had uninstalled AVG then`
`12:48.39`	`Mexa_`	`Anywho`
`12:48.40`	`tampa1adam`	`it alerts u if u have any antivirus`
`12:48.45`	`Mexa_`	`I saw it delete`
`12:48.45`	`Mexa_`	`c:\program files (x86)\INSTALL.LOG`
`12:48.50`	`tampa1adam`	`u just have to click ok then it runs`
`12:48.57`	`Mexa_`	`it did that too`
`12:48.58`	`tampa1adam`	`unless they updated it`
`12:49.05`	`Mexa_`	`But it said`
`12:49.06`	`tampa1adam`	`which I know they recently did`
`12:49.17`	`tampa1adam`	`but still if they ran before with an anti virus on, i dont see why that would change`
`12:49.47`	`Mexa_`	`ANYWHO, it said I had to uninstall, I did so, it nagged AVG and Defender was active still, I pressed OK twice and it worked.`
`12:51.57`	`Mexa_`	`tampa1adam, it only found that log it seems`
`12:52.05`	`tampa1adam`	`well, I dont know how to read the log it makes`
`12:52.09`	`tampa1adam`	`but if u watch it run`
`12:52.15`	`tampa1adam`	`it lists files it's deleting`
`12:52.27`	`Mexa_`	`it only listed that one, as far as I looked`
`12:52.48`	`Mexa_`	`Well, I'll just see if the wifi problem persists`
`12:54.52`	`Mexa_`	`Thanks for the help anyways`
`12:54.53`	`Mexa_`	`:)`
`12:57.30`	`tampa1adam`	`np`
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`13:07.48`	`Helral\|Work`	`meow`
`13:07.54`	`burne-`	`hello fellow mapsters`
`13:08.00`	`burne-`	`hello helral`
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`13:08.04`	`Helral\|Work`	`meow`
`13:08.08`	`burne-`	`lets test my map today`
`13:08.10`	`burne-`	`hello nash`
`13:08.30`	`burne-`	`Nash\|327: dasdasd`
`13:08.35`	`burne-`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuCMSA6_xNI&feature=player_embedded`
`13:10.25`	`tampa1adam`	`ROFL`
`13:11.07`	`mapsterman`	`guys`
`13:11.09`	`mapsterman`	`whats the name`
`13:11.14`	`mapsterman`	`of morphing archon`
`13:11.22`	`mapsterman`	`it doesnt even seem`
`13:11.23`	`mapsterman`	`to be a unit`
`13:12.29`	`tampa1adam`	`mapsterman if u find out let me know`
`13:12.36`	`tampa1adam`	`im trying to make a single templar morph into an archon`
`13:12.53`	`mapsterman`	`ok`
`13:13.14`	`tampa1adam`	`you're not trying to do that are you?`
`13:15.01`	`burne-`	`morphing archon is effect`
`13:15.09`	`Nash\|327`	`'tun`
`13:15.09`	`burne-`	`protoss effect`
`13:15.17`	`burne-`	`I guess it was something like morph`
`13:15.19`	`burne-`	`:/`
`13:15.38`	`Nash\|327`	`morphing archon is probably an archon`
`13:15.51`	`mapsterman`	`yo burn`
`13:15.54`	`burne-`	`it might be unit too, but there is effectike that too`
`13:15.57`	`mapsterman`	`its kinda dumb`
`13:16.16`	`mapsterman`	`if you have a condition which is unit alive in region`
`13:16.22`	`mapsterman`	`and an archon is morphin`
`13:16.27`	`mapsterman`	`will return false`
`13:16.31`	`Helral\|Work`	`just look at the abilities for the protoss templar and then view that ability.`
`13:17.38`	`Helral\|Work`	`not constructed/completed units aren't that unit yet. so they don't get caught in your condition.`
`13:19.56`	`tampa1adam`	`zerg cocoon is a unit`
`13:20.14`	`mapsterman`	`yea`
`13:20.22`	`mapsterman`	`tgood point`
`13:20.36`	`Mexa_`	`brb`
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`13:30.53`	`Agouti`	`<Helral\|Work> not constructed/completed units aren't that unit yet. so they don't get caught in your condition.`
`13:30.58`	`Agouti`	`Not technically correct`
`13:31.01`	`Agouti`	`f.e.`
`13:31.07`	`Helral\|Work`	`hmmm?`
`13:31.12`	`Agouti`	`a zealot warping in is still a zealot`
`13:31.18`	`Agouti`	`it just has the Warping behaviour on it`
`13:31.27`	`Agouti`	`much the same as a building under contruction`
`13:31.38`	`Agouti`	`just need to make sure to filter that out`
`13:31.49`	`Helral\|Work`	`hmmmm.... but archon merging isn't counted...`
`13:32.09`	`Agouti`	`I don't know how the merging archon works`
`13:32.29`	`Agouti`	`without the editor infront of me`
`13:32.37`	`Helral\|Work`	`nor are units under construction inside buildings counted. (although they do count for supply)`
`13:33.09`	`Agouti`	`when selecting units within a region`
`13:33.21`	`Helral\|Work`	`also mark that I'm talking about units specificly and not generally ;p`
`13:33.24`	`Agouti`	`the default unit filters will have excluded: under construction`
`13:33.39`	`Agouti`	`and likely excluded: warping`
`13:33.58`	`Agouti`	`I think an archon might be marked as Under Construction`
`13:34.12`	`Agouti`	`which would explain why the select units in region trigger wouldn't be finding it`
`13:34.37`	`Agouti`	`regardless, every object which isn't terrain and isn't a doodad is a unit`
`13:34.57`	`Helral\|Work`	`could be that units under construction/warping/merging is marked as not alive.`
`13:35.17`	`burne-`	`Can I get 5 testers on EU?`
`13:35.24`	`Helral\|Work`	`Agouti: what about UI objects.`
`13:36.32`	`Helral\|Work`	`or data objects, or trigger objects (just doing the same as you did. generalizing while you are specifically talking about ingame-world-objects )`
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`13:41.11`	`Agouti`	`in terms of data objects`
`13:41.32`	`Agouti`	`you can have actors not attached to units`
`13:41.38`	`Agouti`	`explosions and the like`
`13:41.52`	`Agouti`	`which also do not count as units`
`13:42.00`	`Agouti`	`and probably doodads, either`
`13:42.18`	`Agouti`	`allow me to be slightly more specific`
`13:42.29`	`Agouti`	`if it is selectable or commandable it is a unit ;)`
`13:42.38`	`Agouti`	`noting that buildings under construction are alive`
`13:42.51`	`Agouti`	`and are commandable (cancel f.e.)`
`13:44.34`	`Helral\|Work`	`I can select text in a Editbox Dialog Item ;p grins`
`13:45.57`	`Caz`	`Am i missing something, or can custom functions not be passed a record instance ?`
`13:46.08`	`Caz`	`Dont see it listed as a possible data type in the drop down.`
`13:46.13`	`Helral\|Work`	`you can pass them a record index.`
`13:46.19`	`Helral\|Work`	`not a record itself.`
`13:46.27`	`Agouti`	`pass by reference`
`13:46.39`	`Agouti`	`tick in the parameter section of the funtion`
`13:46.49`	`Caz`	`im on parameters`
`13:46.53`	`Caz`	`creating parameter 1`
`13:47.26`	`Caz`	`How do i set it up to be a reference to my record?`
`13:47.56`	`Nash\|327`	`gah`
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`13:48.09`	`Nash\|327`	`why must reaper actor fuck up when you revive`
`13:48.09`	`Caz`	`gah`
`13:48.14`	`Caz`	`lol`
`13:48.18`	`Nash\|327`	`Blizzard still didn't fix that shit`
`13:48.56`	`Nash\|327`	`and death prevention is not 100% :/`
`13:49.07`	`Nash\|327`	`sometimes unit dies`
`13:50.01`	`burne-`	`I need my testers`
`13:50.04`	`burne-`	`help me guys`
`13:50.04`	`burne-`	`on EU`
`13:50.41`	`Caz`	`Agouti what datatype do i need to select then, for the function parameter?`
`13:51.11`	`Caz`	`Assuming i have a record [recWave] and a local variable ptrGameWaves <recWave[3]>`
`13:51.21`	`Agouti`	`you can't select the record?`
`13:51.23`	`Caz`	`err global*`
`13:51.25`	`Caz`	`no i cant find it`
`13:51.37`	`Agouti`	`I haven't tried myself, you might not be able to`
`13:51.40`	`Caz`	`recWave is not listed`
`13:51.54`	`Agouti`	`could try restarting the editor`
`13:52.08`	`Agouti`	`I haven't played with records`
`13:52.10`	`Agouti`	`sorry`
`13:52.21`	`Agouti`	`was merely suggesting`
`13:53.23`	`burne-`	`Mexa: Dekar Kueken come help testing my map`
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`13:53.38`	`Dekar`	`i have super important work to do :/`
`13:53.43`	`burne-`	`aww`
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`13:54.02`	`Nash\|327`	`Kueken D;`
`13:54.58`	`Nash\|327`	`Added a heal by 10% life when death prevention kicks in and reduce all damage to 0, and remove all DOTs`
`13:55.17`	`Nash\|327`	`Hopefully should keep units from getting killed D_D`
`13:55.27`	`Stewox`	`hello`
`13:55.36`	`Stewox`	`i have read the BLIZZARD MISSILE MOVER tutorial`
`13:55.51`	`Stewox`	`yet i have no idea where to start to make a new custom missile mover`
`13:55.51`	`Agouti`	`nash wouldn't it be better to just mark it invulnerable?`
`13:56.06`	`Stewox`	`i need this missile mover to have GROUND plane`
`13:56.20`	`Stewox`	`and with infinite FUEL`
`13:56.26`	`Stewox`	`so it doesn't run out`
`13:56.33`	`Stewox`	`and it always has to be active`
`13:56.37`	`Stewox`	`so ... moving`
`13:56.55`	`Stewox`	`and it doesn't have any target , the direction is controlled by user mouse`
`13:57.11`	`Nash\|327`	`it is invulnerable`
`13:57.14`	`Nash\|327`	`just dies anyway`
`13:58.29`	`Stewox`	`hello ?`
`13:59.07`	`tampa1adam`	`how do I add the last 2 created units to a player's control group`
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`14:00.39`	`tampa1adam`	`I know how to do it for the last 1 created unit`
`14:00.41`	`tampa1adam`	`thats easy`
`14:03.05`	`Caz`	`Nash\|327, i dont think the gui will alow me to have a variable of type "myRecord" passed to a function. Do you think the raw script would let me hand code a function to get around it ?`
`14:03.43`	`Nash\|327`	`I dunno`
`14:05.25`	`Mexa`	`no`
`14:05.37`	`Mexa`	`records cannot be passed`
`14:05.44`	`Caz`	`D: .. forum is saying the functionality to use records in functions was removed`
`14:05.46`	`Caz`	`WTF !?`
`14:05.53`	`Caz`	`that makes them virtually useless`
`14:06.16`	`Mexa`	`back in the beta, they ahd pointers somewhat`
`14:06.24`	`Mexa`	`They removed it before the retail`
`14:06.34`	`Caz`	`Thats bs D:`
`14:07.06`	`Mexa`	`Like someone else mentioned, you can still create an array of records and use an index as parameter`
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`14:08.07`	`Mexa`	`records pretty much behave as valuetypes as well, which means that it would try to create a bulk copy of the record when passed`
`14:08.32`	`Mexa`	`(hence what the editor throws as error at you)`
`14:08.38`	`Caz`	`only because of the pointer functionality being removed :\|`
`14:09.21`	`Mexa`	`pointers was, on the other hand pretty useless in the beta too, since dynamic creation of objects was not supported back then even`
`14:09.39`	`Mexa`	`It was useful in that sense indeed, to make a pass-by-reference`
`14:10.39`	`Helral\|Work`	`Caz: records are usefull in cases where you need a set of variables for each player, or for each level orso. You can keep the information together without cluttering the variables list.`
`14:11.04`	`Caz`	`And that is indeed my use for it now. But this is the first time i wanted to create a function for one :P`
`14:11.27`	`Helral\|Work`	`you can use a function to set the information :)`
`14:11.34`	`Helral\|Work`	`create *`
`14:11.40`	`Caz`	`again its what im doing :p`
`14:12.07`	`Caz`	`You'll have to forgive me for not defaulting to its use as a global... i may understand C, but i hail from C++. We enjoy our black boxes.`
`14:12.22`	`Helral\|Work`	`you should see some of my records in my map.`
`14:12.35`	`Helral\|Work`	`I hail from basic. ;p`
`14:12.41`	`Caz`	`hehe`
`14:12.51`	`Helral\|Work`	`first language I programmed in.`
`14:12.54`	`Mexa`	`C++ is so much easier than C indeed, Imo`
`14:13.34`	`Helral\|Work`	`currently I'm mostly doing linear programming and not OOP.`
`14:13.54`	`tampa1adam`	`know any lotus domino?`
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`14:22.07`	`burne-`	`gg mr ragequit`
`14:22.08`	`burne-`	`^^`
`14:22.12`	`burne-`	`Dresnia: E`
`14:23.33`	`burne-`	`well atleast the game works rather fine`
`14:23.41`	`burne-`	`I think the endgame is fun too`
`14:23.48`	`burne-`	`the early game might not be so fun`
`14:29.52`	`Mexa`	`burne- sorry tho, but I can't right now.`
`14:35.29`	`Stewox`	`hello`
`14:35.35`	`Stewox`	`DEBUG TYPE MESSAGE`
`14:35.38`	`Stewox`	`1 2 3 and 4`
`14:35.42`	`Stewox`	`what's the difference ?`
`14:35.50`	`Mexa`	`different areas on the screen`
`14:35.55`	`Mexa`	`I think`
`14:36.07`	`Stewox`	`what's the default left-side area ?`
`14:36.22`	`Mexa`	`Never mind, I was thinking on the UIDisplayMessage function`
`14:36.50`	`Mexa`	`left side is the error panel or so, I think`
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`14:38.39`	`Clord`	`you would think that renting hosting bot for WCIII would be straightforward proccess since site supports even PayPal... but noooo XD`
`14:38.54`	`Clord`	`they have no idea if I have paid or not`
`14:41.19`	`burne-`	`MY NAME IS BOXXXYYY`
`14:41.34`	`Mexa`	`renting hosting a bot?`
`14:41.38`	`Mexa`	`Lol`
`14:41.41`	`Mexa`	`Illegal profit`
`14:42.15`	`Helral\|Work`	`you can toggle debug types 1,2,3,4 on/off in the debugger`
`14:43.47`	`Clord`	`Mexa... it is company what hosts other things too than just ghost++ bots`
`14:44.54`	`Mexa`	`okay`
`14:45.18`	`Clord`	`namely minecraft servers lol`
`14:45.19`	`Clord`	`XD`
`14:45.54`	`Helral\|Work`	`I've already grown bored of minecraft ;p`
`14:47.06`	`Clord`	`it seems that many popular youtube guys enjoy terraria more`
`14:47.08`	`Clord`	`lol`
`14:47.25`	`Clord`	`then again can't blame them... no need mod to have`
`14:47.29`	`Clord`	`good jumping heigh etc`
`14:47.33`	`Clord`	`height`
`14:48.22`	`Mexa`	`jumping height?`
`14:48.51`	`Mexa`	`Speaking of which, time to idle terraria for some mushroom growth and blue grass harvesting.`
`14:48.59`	`Mexa`	`herpderp`
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`14:50.04`	`tampa1adam`	`In case anyone cares, if u want to make a xel naga tower a detector, add the observer's ability to the behaviors`
`14:52.17`	`Clord`	`Mexa... yeah jumping height... Minecraft's characters only can jump more like real world humans but Terraria... you are insanely agile when it comes to jumping XD`
`14:52.31`	`Clord`	`going to small hole is not such bothering problem`
`14:52.46`	`Clord`	`bothersome more like lol`
`14:53.23`	`Mexa`	`right`
`14:53.59`	`Mexa`	`Is it just me or is this remix even more worse than the original? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agoapiToLAM`
`14:54.04`	`Mexa`	`~_~`
`14:54.27`	`Clord`	`you mean you can actually make rap even worser? XD`
`14:55.12`	`Mexa`	`I meantt that the official friday song was more appealing if something`
`14:55.40`	`Mexa`	`Also, they ripped her off, as the original song isn't on youtube anymore..`
`14:56.20`	`Clord`	`well nowadays it is like this`
`14:56.29`	`Clord`	`upholding the law... with cost of sales`
`14:56.34`	`Clord`	`or expense of sales`
`14:56.38`	`Clord`	`or whatever you want to call it XD`
`14:56.48`	`Mexa`	`upholding the law?`
`14:56.53`	`Clord`	`upholding the law even with expense of sales XD`
`14:57.20`	`Clord`	`yeah... those who enforce law in the internet.. takes down youtube videos etc what would generate potential sales`
`14:57.29`	`Clord`	`without that author even is informed`
`14:57.38`	`Clord`	`who would potentially benefit from it`
`14:57.53`	`Mexa`	`Actually, it was a dispute of rebecca black and the art music factory regarding who was the proper owner`
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`14:58.43`	`Mexa`	`Now sure tho, it was hosted on the art music factory youtube before, and now it's gone, and instead this trollsong is there.`
`14:58.57`	`sgeshr`	`anyone knows how to make a unit use 3 abilities at same time ?`
`14:59.13`	`sgeshr`	`a unit that uses 3 abilities at same time`
`14:59.27`	`Mexa`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iSRr3ZuLL8 oh well`
`15:01.09`	`Clord`	`Duke Nukem Forever is getting that huge single player DLC... with Dr. Proton as enemy villain... it is some 2d era generic cyborg villain who tried to use robots to take over the world in first Duke Nukem game.......... plus Karaoke machine`
`15:01.36`	`Mexa`	`lol`
`15:01.52`	`Mexa`	`Maybe they can hope that will change the metacritics..`
`15:02.50`	`Mexa`	`I like that if you search Rebecca Black on youtube, Void Rays is the second video..`
`15:02.59`	`Mexa`	`:>`
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`15:17.36`	`sgeshr`	`can anyone make a unit use 3 abilities at same time ?`
`15:17.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Mexa. =D`
`15:17.56`	`Mexa`	`ohai`
`15:18.14`	`JademusSreg`	`Get my messages on Steam?`
`15:18.29`	`Mexa`	`oh, haven't seen it`
`15:18.41`	`JademusSreg`	`I need a test subject for my Terraria server.`
`15:18.46`	`Mexa`	`hmm`
`15:18.52`	`Mexa`	`test subject huh?`
`15:19.01`	`Mexa`	`what dangerous thing are you going to throw at me?`
`15:19.08`	`JademusSreg`	`I constructed a large anti-nub dungeon around the spawn point.`
`15:19.30`	`Mexa`	`;o`
`15:19.35`	`Mexa`	`Antinub`
`15:19.39`	`Mexa`	`then I guess I will die`
`15:19.44`	`Mexa`	`But I will try`
`15:19.59`	`JademusSreg`	`It can be done without high tier equipment.`
`15:20.08`	`JademusSreg`	`If you're good at platforming.`
`15:20.25`	`Mexa`	`I should be decent at least`
`15:20.42`	`Mexa`	`Alright`
`15:20.54`	`Mexa`	`you can whisper me ip and pass`
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`15:24.16`	`Stewox`	`hello`
`15:24.19`	`sgeshr`	`hey`
`15:24.29`	`Stewox`	`which BOUNDs control the PLayable Map Area`
`15:24.32`	`sgeshr`	`can anyone make a unit use 3 abilities at same time ?`
`15:25.24`	`Stewox`	`the dicsonnecte LINE bound or the BLUE bound ?`
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`15:33.47`	`burne-`	`My map would be ready for testing again`
`15:33.49`	`burne-`	`on EU`
`15:33.50`	`burne-`	`:/`
`15:38.12`	`Stewox`	`HELLO`
`15:38.18`	`Stewox`	`my PROBES`
`15:38.30`	`Stewox`	`spawn invisible on some weird location on terrain`
`15:38.37`	`Stewox`	`i have no resources in my map`
`15:38.57`	`Stewox`	`the probes i placed in terrain editor vansihed ingame`
`15:39.06`	`Stewox`	`it was an edit of the probe`
`15:39.14`	`Stewox`	`simple edits no anythig special`
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`15:45.20`	`llesCo`	`?`
`15:45.35`	`CryptRat`	`Wierd.`
`15:47.15`	`Stewox`	`idk`
`15:47.23`	`Stewox`	`they're keep spawning in left-bottom side`
`15:47.43`	`Stewox`	`just can't move em ... are selectable only because of the IDLE WORKER shortcut`
`15:48.00`	`Stewox`	`my map is flat gorund`
`15:48.13`	`Stewox`	`with unreachable cliffs`
`15:48.23`	`Stewox`	`sorrounded by cliffs`
`15:48.28`	`Stewox`	`and all clifss are unpathable`
`15:48.55`	`Stewox`	`(unpathable because i spawn randomly on all map so they don't get spawned on the cliffs)`
`15:49.06`	`Stewox`	`im debugging something now`
`15:49.30`	`Stewox`	`how do i count the number of units on the map of a specific player ?`
`15:52.49`	`slightlyrandom`	`Pick each Unit in (Playable Map Area)`
`15:53.58`	`slightlyrandom`	`I think there's even a Count Units in Unit Group (Units in Area(Playable Map Area) Owned by Player`
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`16:13.54`	`XorioZ`	`OAKMEAL!!!`
`16:15.19`	`XorioZ`	`what... no response?`
`16:15.35`	`XorioZ`	`Everybody say KITTUNS!`
`16:17.58`	`Nash\|327`	`KITTUNS`
`16:21.08`	`XorioZ`	`Yay :D`
`16:21.30`	`XorioZ`	`Everybody say OAK!`
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`16:26.14`	`Nash\|327`	`MEAL`
`16:34.19`	`Stewox`	`slightlyrandom`
`16:34.21`	`Stewox`	`idk`
`16:34.28`	`Stewox`	`it requests STRING`
`16:34.37`	`Stewox`	`and i don't know what return type it is`
`16:34.46`	`Stewox`	`i choosed FIND UNIT`
`16:34.51`	`Stewox`	`under AI Advanced`
`16:34.59`	`Stewox`	`inside of Pick each Unit in Unit group`
`16:35.39`	`Stewox`	`instead "unit Group" ... Find Unit`
`16:38.26`	`slightlyrandom`	`Eh?`
`16:38.37`	`slightlyrandom`	`What the hell are you doing, mate?`
`16:38.59`	`Stewox`	`ok i think PICKED UNIT is the one to continue`
`16:39.27`	`Stewox`	`some of my units dont get created on a map properly`
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`16:39.35`	`Wiz10011`	`Hello.`
`16:39.37`	`Stewox`	`im debugging to see how many units are there created`
`16:39.48`	`slightlyrandom`	`I'm pretty sure there's a built-in function that tells you how many units are in a unit group`
`16:39.50`	`Stewox`	`to see if the number is consistent with the demanded`
`16:40.09`	`Stewox`	`idk what is a unit group`
`16:40.16`	`slightlyrandom`	`A group of units`
`16:40.23`	`Stewox`	`all i need to know is how many units are in which region , a region i specify`
`16:40.38`	`Stewox`	`preferably player and type specific`
`16:40.45`	`slightlyrandom`	`Either one you made, or the group of units owned by a player, or in a region, or on the map, or currently attacking, or belonging to unit type, Building`
`16:41.00`	`Stewox`	`there are no units existing`
`16:41.08`	`slightlyrandom`	`Then there are no units`
`16:41.09`	`Stewox`	`they are created by the script`
`16:41.10`	`slightlyrandom`	`Ease`
`16:41.21`	`slightlyrandom`	`Then call another script to count them after they have been created`
`16:41.40`	`Stewox`	`idk how to count them`
`16:41.57`	`Stewox`	`that's what im asking`
`16:42.15`	`slightlyrandom`	`I've been trying to tell you how`
`16:42.42`	`Stewox`	`okay how again ?`
`16:44.10`	`slightlyrandom`	`Count the number of units in the Unit Group, the group being all the units on the map`
`16:44.40`	`Stewox`	`and how to do that ?`
`16:45.00`	`Stewox`	`i have been searching for some time`
`16:45.06`	`Stewox`	`found nothing`
`16:45.28`	`slightlyrandom`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/triggers/number-of-units-in-unit-group/`
`16:46.04`	`slightlyrandom`	`The trigger selector has a search function`
`16:46.07`	`slightlyrandom`	`Learn to love it`
`16:46.13`	`Stewox`	`i know`
`16:46.40`	`Stewox`	`it's very confusing to determine what's a condition and what's an action , this system is a very weird system of modding`
`16:46.57`	`Stewox`	`multiple actions appear at many places and conditions/actions are mixed too`
`16:47.05`	`Stewox`	`i think i found it in conditions now`
`16:47.44`	`Stewox`	`it's called "UNIT COUNT FOR PLAYER" tech-tree`
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`16:49.12`	`Stewox`	`but idk if that will work juding form the temr of conditions`
`16:50.10`	`Stewox`	`slightlyrandom`
`16:50.15`	`Stewox`	`i don't have that in my actions`
`16:50.49`	`slightlyrandom`	`Why are you doing debugging in actions ?`
`16:51.37`	`slightlyrandom`	`If you're getting confused because you're using the more powerful and complicated aspects of the editor, maybe you shouldn't be overcomplicating your problem`
`16:52.01`	`slightlyrandom`	`You need an extremely simple, three line basic trigger`
`16:52.15`	`Stewox`	`this is not an complicated editor`
`16:52.34`	`slightlyrandom`	`No, but there are levels of different complication depending on how you use it`
`16:52.40`	`Stewox`	`this is the most stupid editor i have ever seen , sorry , but this is just lame , that's why it's complicated ,because it just freaking sucks`
`16:52.55`	`Stewox`	`comparing to ther RTS gaming engines ...`
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`16:53.22`	`slightlyrandom`	`You're using the wrong tool, in my opinion`
`16:53.24`	`Stewox`	`i have modded C++ scripts in call of duty , without any editors or any tool , just the parser and debugger`
`16:53.32`	`slightlyrandom`	`Sounds awesome`
`16:53.41`	`Helral\|Afk`	`~seen ProziacMuze`
`16:53.52`	`purl`	`i haven't seen 'proziacmuze', Helral\|Afk`
`16:53.53`	`Helral\|Afk`	`meow`
`16:54.20`	`Stewox`	`for example , the built-in stuff is missing too`
`16:54.36`	`Stewox`	`there's is "random unit" ,"any unit" but not ALL UNITS in region for example`
`16:54.43`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yes there is`
`16:54.55`	`Stewox`	`i had to use workaround ...`
`16:55.01`	`slightlyrandom`	`You go through the abstraction layer of Unit Groups to get there`
`16:55.16`	`slightlyrandom`	`If you want more than one unit, you use a unit group`
`16:55.34`	`Stewox`	`with conditions somehow , it was a pretty easy thing but still faster would have been with a simple logically and practically obvious built-in`
`16:55.45`	`slightlyrandom`	`Dude`
`16:55.51`	`slightlyrandom`	`You're arguing from ignorance`
`16:56.16`	`Helral\|Afk`	`meow`
`16:56.20`	`Stewox`	`it's complicated because of the mindset of the programmers , i have seen many many eidtors and this is just like monkey's have been programming it`
`16:56.26`	`slightlyrandom`	`These things exist, even if you don't know where they are or how to use them`
`16:56.44`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yes, and this argument works just as well in reverse`
`16:56.46`	`Stewox`	`well it's ancinet old`
`16:56.55`	`Stewox`	`it's 2004 technology`
`16:56.59`	`slightlyrandom`	`That this editor is simple and straightforward, and that all the others are weird and strange`
`16:57.21`	`slightlyrandom`	`I don't even...`
`16:57.41`	`Stewox`	`look on some galaxy files , it says Copyright Blizzard Entertainment 2003-2005`
`16:57.41`	`slightlyrandom`	`Your problem is extremely simple, and can be solved with 30 seconds of clicking`
`16:58.01`	`slightlyrandom`	`Yes, and obviously the tool has not been developed on since then`
`16:58.12`	`Stewox`	`yeah and im not experienced with these trigger based codings`
`16:58.18`	`slightlyrandom`	`Look, I'm not saying this is a blood perfect product or anything`
`16:58.30`	`slightlyrandom`	`But if you're complaining that this editor is not C++, well`
`16:58.33`	`Stewox`	`the point is , i have no map in my mind to see whats going on , a kind of overview`
`16:58.39`	`slightlyrandom`	`I don't really see where that argument gets you`
`16:58.59`	`slightlyrandom`	`It's true, but utterly irrelevant`
`16:59.18`	`Stewox`	`irrelevant ...`
`16:59.25`	`slightlyrandom`	`Non-sensical`
`16:59.30`	`Stewox`	`look at COH engine`
`16:59.36`	`slightlyrandom`	`Anyway, that's all the time I have for this debate`
`16:59.38`	`slightlyrandom`	`Good luck to you`
`17:00.15`	`Stewox`	`that's because i was expecting something real big from this`
`17:00.22`	`Stewox`	`SC2 oh this was something BIG`
`17:00.26`	`Stewox`	`and now they give us this`
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`17:00.45`	`Stewox`	`... 3 years to wait before the patches come so i can actually make something`
`17:01.04`	`Stewox`	`the editor is buggs , it's renaming BANELINGs always to something else whenever i load the map`
`17:03.18`	`Stewox`	`it's the grapihical UI that i hate`
`17:03.22`	`Stewox`	`it's confusing`
`17:03.28`	`Stewox`	`im going to manual modding`
`17:03.32`	`Stewox`	`that's it`
`17:05.11`	`Stewox`	`it's all bugs and this "dependency" crap ., im going to hack the sc2map files and insert my manual modifications there, full XML code , no these "links" and changes , what SPACE are they saving anyways ... a few megs`
`17:05.27`	`burne-`	`PFFFFFFF`
`17:05.33`	`burne-`	`why doesnt my slow behaviour work`
`17:05.48`	`Stewox`	`editor's good for terrain only i guess`
`17:06.13`	`Stewox`	`even the terrain editor is a joke , it's all linear, like 45 degrees everything , lol`
`17:06.42`	`Stewox`	`cliffs have only 4 directions , can't really make a real circle`
`17:06.57`	`Stewox`	`too arcadey`
`17:07.50`	`Stewox`	`can't wait for IDTech5`
`17:08.25`	`Stewox`	`sneak peak: http://www.shrani.si/f/28/cR/VWucxPP/1/idepicness.jpg`
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`17:10.19`	`tordy`	`yo dUKKEAAAY`
`17:10.30`	`vailreth`	`?`
`17:10.34`	`tampa1adam`	`hey stewox what was the name of the new campaign battlecruiser hero`
`17:13.22`	`Stewox`	`hmm`
`17:13.44`	`tampa1adam`	`Jackson's Revenge scrub l2play`
`17:14.14`	`Stewox`	`forgot didn't played SP for a long time`
`17:14.24`	`Stewox`	`already did all achivments`
`17:14.46`	`Stewox`	`i don't leanr games on head wtf :/`
`17:14.55`	`tampa1adam`	`what?`
`17:15.06`	`Stewox`	`learn*`
`17:15.15`	`tampa1adam`	`u learn them on your head?`
`17:15.28`	`Stewox`	`like learning it hard to never forget it`
`17:15.46`	`Stewox`	`not!`
`17:16.17`	`tampa1adam`	`1v1?`
`17:18.30`	`tampa1adam`	`thought so`
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`17:22.09`	`UloseTheGame`	`hey guys`
`17:22.29`	`tampa1adam`	`hi`
`17:22.32`	`vailreth`	`oh now i lost... wait i dont play that game`
`17:22.42`	`vailreth`	`but hey`
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`17:23.04`	`UloseTheGame`	`Game attendance is mandatory )`
`17:23.06`	`UloseTheGame`	`:)`
`17:23.23`	`vailreth`	`not when you are nearly 30`
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`17:28.41`	`UloseTheGame`	`everyone listen up, vailreth is 30! everyone give him a round of applause!`
`17:29.01`	`vailreth`	`not yet but less than three years and i will be`
`17:29.16`	`UloseTheGame`	`27? bah, you ain't exempt from the game`
`17:29.19`	`wOlfLinG`	`Then why did you say it?!`
`17:29.51`	`UloseTheGame`	`nearly 30... you've still got 3 good years, that's time right there`
`17:30.04`	`vailreth`	`i said at nearly thirty i have two years to go`
`17:30.13`	`wOlfLinG`	`Time enough to get on with modding SC2 :D`
`17:30.33`	`UloseTheGame`	`wOlfLing, me too, i have a lotr map to finish :)`
`17:32.53`	`Clord`	`"this is real wrestling" "take your gay porn elsewhere" South Park >_>`
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`17:37.54`	`Stewox`	`hello`
`17:38.10`	`Stewox`	`i have one trigger selecting a RANDOM INT in array`
`17:38.15`	`Stewox`	`from 0 to 15`
`17:38.17`	`Stewox`	`so 16`
`17:38.36`	`Stewox`	`and i need another trigger to USE that value what the other trigger selected randomly`
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`17:39.13`	`Stewox`	`im moving something to a random pre-placed point`
`17:39.19`	`Stewox`	`so i need some other stuff moved too`
`17:39.26`	`Helral\|Afk`	`meow`
`17:39.27`	`Stewox`	`to the same location, both randomly ofcurse`
`17:39.35`	`tordy`	`Helral island defense`
`17:42.21`	`burne-`	`Dresnia: yhere?`
`17:42.25`	`burne-`	`there?`
`17:43.37`	`Triceron`	`punts Helral into a homeless shelter`
`17:44.24`	`burne-`	`mehmehmehmemhmehmhe`
`17:44.28`	`burne-`	`I need better terrain`
`17:45.27`	`Stewox`	`for example`
`17:46.01`	`Stewox`	`why the heck aren't there events like "TRIGGER RUNS" "TRIGGER STARTER RUNNIN" "TRIGGER STOPPED" ... etc`
`17:46.05`	`UloseTheGame`	`burne, what terrain? all I see is a blank map`
`17:46.21`	`burne-`	`yea...`
`17:46.27`	`burne-`	`hahaha`
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`17:48.42`	`burne-`	`is succesfull troll not succesfull? :(`
`17:49.26`	`UloseTheGame`	`burne, unsuccessful troll may in fact be successful D:`
`17:49.51`	`UloseTheGame`	`isn't it a sad day when that comes about? :(`
`17:49.58`	`Mexa`	`herpaderpa`
`17:52.01`	`Stewox`	`hello`
`17:52.20`	`Stewox`	`how do i return a value to a variable , to use it for some other trigger`
`17:52.47`	`Stewox`	`for example a randomizer selects some random point and i want to put that into a variable so it saves it`
`17:53.03`	`vailreth`	`any one know why buttons wouldnt show on the command card?`
`17:53.35`	`Helral\|Afk`	`Stewox: Set variable .....`
`17:53.50`	`Stewox`	`hmm`
`17:53.55`	`Stewox`	`i think i done it already`
`17:54.06`	`Stewox`	`the randomizer is moving a region`
`17:54.22`	`Stewox`	`i just set that it moves the minimap ping to the region after that`
`17:54.31`	`tampa1adam`	`vail I have that same problem atm`
`17:54.31`	`Stewox`	`with a delay of 0.2 seconds should be enough`
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`17:57.40`	`burne-`	`aww man`
`17:57.55`	`burne-`	`I guess drsuperevil didnt quite get it :D`
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`17:59.35`	`burne-`	`how do I mage clif level 0 dissapear?`
`17:59.38`	`burne-`	`is it possible?`
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`18:04.30`	`burne-`	`I wonder if I used my marketin trick too early :D`
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`18:04.52`	`Mexa`	`Lol`
`18:04.59`	`Mexa`	`http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/07/18/google-suspends-anonymous-account-anonplus/`
`18:05.04`	`burne-`	`FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUU`
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`18:05.12`	`burne-`	`I should have used delightful speckio`
`18:05.20`	`burne-`	`it would have made the video way better`
`18:07.18`	`Stewox`	`can't move decals with scripts?`
`18:07.20`	`Stewox`	`that sucks`
`18:07.29`	`Stewox`	`i mean doodads`
`18:11.55`	`Stewox`	`ahh BEACON`
`18:11.58`	`Stewox`	`so it's a unit`
`18:12.00`	`Mexa`	`doodads are completely useless in scripts`
`18:12.01`	`Stewox`	`great`
`18:12.04`	`Stewox`	`well`
`18:12.18`	`Stewox`	`i was searching for this beacons and didn't found em before`
`18:12.27`	`Stewox`	`i called em "ground decals" ... lolz`
`18:12.38`	`Stewox`	`ok i solved it`
`18:16.36`	`tampa1adam`	`any reason why an ability wouldnt show up in a unit's command card in game?`
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`18:19.55`	`burne-`	`haha tacoman very funny :D`
`18:20.13`	`Zanryu`	`have you removed possible requirements in the ability?`
`18:21.30`	`burne-`	`hahaha`
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`18:21.43`	`tampa1adam`	`fixed it`
`18:21.48`	`tampa1adam`	`theres an upgrade called: Story Mode Tech - (Battlecruiser) Defensive Matrix`
`18:21.56`	`tampa1adam`	`that has to be research in order for the button to show`
`18:22.16`	`Zanryu`	`few days ago i had the same thing^^`
`18:22.32`	`tampa1adam`	`:D`
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`18:27.37`	`ducky_`	`hi, anyone know how I can check out how Blizzards AI functions work?`
`18:28.04`	`Deaod`	`yeah, read the files.`
`18:28.06`	`tampa1adam`	`call tech support and ask`
`18:28.37`	`Deaod`	`specifically, start with TriggerLibs/AI.galaxy`
`18:28.43`	`Deaod`	`follow includes from there`
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`18:28.59`	`tordy`	`yoooooooo`
`18:31.32`	`tordy`	`yopoooooooooooooooooooooo`
`18:31.41`	`tordy`	`Clord what do you think of Deck Wars`
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`18:35.34`	`ducky_`	`"TriggerLibs/AI.galaxy" where can i find this?`
`18:36.48`	`burne-`	`god damnit dresnia`
`18:36.51`	`burne-`	`he bailed on me`
`18:36.58`	`ducky_`	`I opened AI libary in trigger editor but all functions are blank =l`
`18:37.00`	`burne-`	`I might need a terraining tutor`
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`18:38.06`	`vailreth`	`BLARG`
`18:38.50`	`vailreth`	`im going to get Mr. Stabby... and Mr. Cleavey to talk to the editor and see if they can convience this command card to work properly`
`18:39.15`	`Currydevil`	`Question: using an ability with a cast time/prepare/channel, is there any way to make the actor create when the ability starts other than referencing the afformentioned cast/prep/channel?`
`18:39.53`	`vailreth`	`there should be`
`18:40.31`	`Currydevil`	`most likely is, but I can't find it. If i try to create the actor on ability start, it doesn't give me many options.`
`18:40.34`	`Currydevil`	`the problem is this`
`18:41.29`	`Currydevil`	`I am creating an actor at the start of the cast time, but it seems to be destroyed at the end of the cast time (orphaned I guess?) instead of sticking around till the launch missile actually works or until a timer expires`
`18:42.02`	`burne-`	`I feel like im becoming like rodrigo slowly`
`18:42.11`	`burne-`	`I feel like trolling with stuff :D`
`18:42.43`	`vailreth`	`what is the actor set to do when orphaned?`
`18:43.05`	`Currydevil`	`destroy if i didn't remove it altogether`
`18:43.25`	`Currydevil`	`i think i did remove it and set the destroy based on a timer`
`18:43.30`	`Currydevil`	`but it still doesn't last that long`
`18:43.56`	`vailreth`	`what type of actor is it?`
`18:44.03`	`Currydevil`	`and it's getting quite frustrating. Becase Raynor charges up his powerful shot, but it disappears before he actually fires the missile.`
`18:44.06`	`Currydevil`	`model`
`18:44.39`	`Currydevil`	`so what I have it doing is showing a photon missile growing in size from a small to about normal size within the 2 sec cast time`
`18:44.40`	`vailreth`	`what subtype?`
`18:45.00`	`Currydevil`	`and would love for it to stick around long enough to look like i'm actually shooting it`
`18:45.19`	`Currydevil`	`um, anim continuous i think. I don't have the editor open atm, installing another game`
`18:45.47`	`vailreth`	`ok when you get the editor back up we will take a look* nods*`
`18:46.28`	`vailreth`	`if i recall correctly the Anim One shot destroys its self as soon as the animation has finished...`
`18:46.50`	`vailreth`	`while the continuous can loop ..`
`18:49.48`	`vailreth`	`wonder if i need to repair or reinstall sc2 and the editor..`
`18:52.25`	`tordy`	`what's y'all don`
`18:53.55`	`vailreth`	`i am trying to troubleshoot why my second and thrid command cards are not showing the proper abilities`
`18:58.01`	`Currydevil`	`alright, well it's a continuous actor. i set the duration of the anim play to the time it should be but then it does more weird stuff lol`
`18:58.14`	`vailreth`	`hmm`
`18:58.50`	`vailreth`	`wish i could help more indepth but i have a bit of an issue ..`
`18:58.59`	`vailreth`	`my hero will not show his learn abilities`
`18:59.47`	`Currydevil`	`hm, i haven't played with learn abilities yet so i dunno =(`
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`18:59.51`	`Currydevil`	`but I think i fixed mine.`
`19:00.56`	`vailreth`	`the thing is its not the abilities ... its the hero ...`
`19:01.15`	`vailreth`	`every other hero shows the same abilities and just fine`
`19:02.03`	`vailreth`	`and buttons just`
`19:02.30`	`Helral\|Afk`	`does he have the abilities needed for the buttons?`
`19:02.46`	`vailreth`	`yep`
`19:02.55`	`Currydevil`	`nvm, i thought I fixed mine. lol`
`19:03.57`	`Currydevil`	`I guess it would help if i set the destroy timer to the same time as my anim play time`
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`19:04.42`	`vailreth`	`i am getting really annoyed at this hero object`
`19:05.00`	`Currydevil`	`=(`
`19:07.23`	`vailreth`	`what is weird is that two of his three researches show up but not the third nor any of his atrribute learn abilities`
`19:13.50`	`Xan`	`vail I need your help`
`19:13.56`	`Xan`	`(again)`
`19:14.08`	`vailreth`	`i just rememberd the night elf sabatour i created in wc3`
`19:14.17`	`vailreth`	`and what can i help with?`
`19:14.40`	`Xan`	`you know the validator you helped me with that looks for any unit of a specific unit type in an area`
`19:14.48`	`Xan`	`I need an exact opposite validator`
`19:15.17`	`vailreth`	`one that determines that there are none of a unit in an area ?`
`19:15.18`	`Xan`	`that only returns true if there are 0 units of that unit type`
`19:15.25`	`Xan`	`yep`
`19:15.44`	`Xan`	`cant figure it out`
`19:15.47`	`vailreth`	`ok you are using the enumerate area validator correct?`
`19:15.54`	`Xan`	`yep`
`19:16.09`	`vailreth`	`ok give me a sec to pull up validators in the editor`
`19:16.13`	`Xan`	`thanks mate`
`19:16.42`	`vailreth`	`no problem`
`19:17.00`	`vailreth`	`ok your search areas arc is 380?`
`19:17.05`	`vailreth`	`360 ahem`
`19:17.30`	`vailreth`	`or what ever you need it to be right?`
`19:18.12`	`Xan`	`yep`
`19:18.17`	`Xan`	`a circle`
`19:19.17`	`vailreth`	`your search areas compare should be eaqual to, less than or equal to, or less than i would try less than or equal to.`
`19:19.32`	`vailreth`	`atleast first`
`19:20.28`	`Xan`	`right now its equal to -1`
`19:20.39`	`vailreth`	`thats the count.`
`19:20.42`	`Xan`	`but then it checks if there are any units of that unit type`
`19:20.56`	`Xan`	`I need opposite`
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`19:21.19`	`Xan`	`oh`
`19:21.21`	`Xan`	`the compare`
`19:21.23`	`vailreth`	`ok you want the search areas count to be -1 so it checks every unit in the search area`
`19:22.00`	`Xan`	`oh`
`19:22.06`	`Xan`	`yeah I had greater than 0 compare`
`19:22.17`	`Frostwind`	`is very bored`
`19:22.31`	`vailreth`	`i had a lot of trouble with this validator my self`
`19:23.58`	`vailreth`	`now for the field Validator - Compare you want that to be equal to and the seach count to be 0`
`19:24.35`	`Xan`	`ok will try`
`19:25.10`	`vailreth`	`if it doesnt work right off it will just need some fine tuning... the major settings are pretty much done.`
`19:26.40`	`Xan`	`fuck yes`
`19:26.41`	`Xan`	`it works`
`19:26.41`	`Xan`	`:D`
`19:26.50`	`Xan`	`been trying to get this to work for weeks`
`19:27.04`	`vailreth`	`nice`
`19:27.09`	`Xan`	`thanks!`
`19:27.35`	`vailreth`	`no problem, maybe you can tell me about terraining some time`
`19:27.44`	`Xan`	`sure`
`19:27.49`	`Xan`	`another problem I had was with the switch effects`
`19:27.55`	`vailreth`	`i love those`
`19:28.03`	`vailreth`	`what problem were you having?`
`19:28.14`	`Xan`	`the default value run even though the vase values run also`
`19:28.38`	`Xan`	`case*`
`19:28.42`	`vailreth`	`did you have fallthrough enabled on the cases?`
`19:28.46`	`Xan`	`nope`
`19:28.49`	`Xan`	`it ran anyways`
`19:29.02`	`vailreth`	`what validators were you susing for the cases?`
`19:29.18`	`Xan`	`one that checks if unit has buff`
`19:29.47`	`Xan`	`and the case effect ran, but the default value also`
`19:29.47`	`Xan`	`:s`
`19:30.03`	`vailreth`	`i do not use a default my self`
`19:30.08`	`Xan`	`then I used 2 validators, one that checks if it has buff, and one that checks if it has 0 buffs, and didnt use any default value, then it worked fine`
`19:30.18`	`Xan`	`thinking there may be a problem with the default`
`19:30.25`	`Xan`	`took like 1 week to figure that out`
`19:30.25`	`Xan`	`^^`
`19:31.03`	`vailreth`	`hm yeah i think the default always is called while the validated ones only are called while the validator is true`
`19:32.09`	`tampa1adam`	`so I'm trying to add defence matrix to sci vessel`
`19:32.32`	`vailreth`	`yeah still trying to get my abilities to show up as well`
`19:32.46`	`tampa1adam`	`I got mine to show up`
`19:33.07`	`vailreth`	`what did you figure out?`
`19:34.10`	`tampa1adam`	`I found there was a requirement for the ability that counted an upgrade in order to show/use`
`19:34.23`	`tampa1adam`	`the ability`
`19:34.35`	`vailreth`	`i see`
`19:34.41`	`vailreth`	`not my issue drat`
`19:34.42`	`tampa1adam`	`so I just gave myself that upgrade in a trigger`
`19:34.59`	`tampa1adam`	`what ability?`
`19:35.44`	`vailreth`	`i have some dummy abilities that i created so i could have an attribuet select ability for my heros`
`19:36.05`	`tampa1adam`	`cant help ya sry :(`
`19:36.57`	`vailreth`	`the same abilities show up on my other four units just fine`
`19:39.22`	`tampa1adam`	`so theres this defence matrix ability, it cant only be used on the unit with the ability, but i want to change it to be able to be casted onto any player/team unit`
`19:39.35`	`tampa1adam`	`where would I start to try to edit that`
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`19:40.47`	`Apple_`	`Hello sc2 mapster IRC, i have a questionn`
`19:41.29`	`Apple_`	`The doddad Stone Zealot Base, has ti so when you walk over it, it makes the units go on top of it`
`19:41.36`	`Apple_`	`how do i change or disable that`
`19:42.23`	`Apple_`	`i made a really big one in the sky as a doodad, but when units walk in its area, they are moved to the top of the giant base in teh sky`
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`19:45.24`	`vailreth`	`likely going to have to create a new footprint for it that has no pathing`
`19:46.46`	`vailreth`	`i feel so silly i just spent the last hour trouble shooting my heros learn abilities only to realize the buttons were set to the wrong abilities instead of the learn ability versions`
`19:48.01`	`Currydevil`	`-.- but fixed now?`
`19:48.48`	`vailreth`	`yep`
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`19:53.28`	`Apple_`	`if that were the case vailreth, couldnt i just use the "dont use doodad footprint" option?`
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`19:53.44`	`Apple_`	`i do that and nothing changes tho`
`19:53.52`	`vailreth`	`i dont know.`
`19:55.53`	`hawker`	`nash, are the warpgates supposed to be protoss unit spawners?`
`19:56.04`	`Xan`	`fuck, need help again vail :)`
`19:56.28`	`vailreth`	`i just got my hero working Sweetly so whats up?`
`19:57.11`	`Xan`	`I need another validator, or more specifically I need the same validator to be more complex`
`19:57.24`	`Xan`	`is it possible for validators to check for unit custom values?`
`19:57.39`	`Xan`	`that are added in triggers`
`19:57.58`	`vailreth`	`i do not believe so`
`19:58.04`	`Xan`	`damn`
`19:58.25`	`Xan`	`alright nevermind`
`19:59.03`	`vailreth`	`what are you using teh custom values to do?`
`19:59.36`	`vailreth`	`and what did you want to acomplish`
`19:59.56`	`Xan`	`the unit type it checks for, it should only check for the units that have a specific value`
`20:00.01`	`Xan`	`I want the validator to ignore those units`
`20:00.25`	`Frostwind`	`is very bored`
`20:00.47`	`vailreth`	`would it be hard to apply a behavior to these units via triggers at the same time and use a compare beahior count vaildator`
`20:00.48`	`hawker`	`go make a thread in the request forums`
`20:01.02`	`hawker`	`points Frostwin to the request forums`
`20:01.04`	`Xan`	`hm`
`20:01.12`	`Xan`	`maybe a behavior could work`
`20:01.17`	`Xan`	`but then I'd need a few different behaviors`
`20:01.26`	`Xan`	`for the different custom values`
`20:01.39`	`vailreth`	`i know its a kinda hackish data/trigger solution but`
`20:01.40`	`Xan`	`sec`
`20:01.49`	`Xan`	`makes sense though`
`20:02.45`	`Xan`	`duration 0 is endless right?`
`20:03.03`	`vailreth`	`for me personally i try to keep all object realtive stuff data while world realtive stuff i handle in triggers and i believe so yes that or -1 if 0 dosent work`
`20:03.21`	`Frostwind`	`sighs`
`20:04.22`	`Xan`	`I usually did everything by triggers but data is way better for performance`
`20:04.47`	`vailreth`	`yep`
`20:07.31`	`Xan`	`how do I check with the enum validator for targets of a specific unit type AND a behavior?`
`20:07.37`	`Xan`	`this is getting complicated^^`
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`20:09.39`	`vailreth`	`you will need combine validators`
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`20:11.45`	`Xan`	`what does the Negate flag in the combine validator do?`
`20:13.53`	`vailreth`	`by defult the combine tests if all or any of the listed validators are true ... i think negate makes it check if they are false but im not sure`
`20:14.04`	`Xan`	`hm`
`20:15.14`	`Xan`	`how do I make an xor using the combine validator? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XOR_gate`
`20:15.38`	`Frostwind`	`It really sucks not having a project to work on. :(`
`20:19.12`	`vailreth`	`ok that would be a some what combex set of validators`
`20:19.15`	`Helral\|Afk`	`Xan: Xor -> ((A and !B) or (!A and B)) basicly try that setup. each set of brackets is a validator I guess.`
`20:20.04`	`Xan`	`hm`
`20:20.10`	`Helral\|Afk`	`so that would be three additional validators orso (A and !B), (!A and B) and the or-statement to combine these 2.`
`20:20.16`	`vailreth`	`you would need a validator that checks for A and B both being true another two for both being false ...`
`20:20.34`	`Xan`	`more validators than I thought`
`20:20.40`	`vailreth`	`yeah`
`20:20.42`	`Helral\|Afk`	`vailreth: that's a Xand.`
`20:20.42`	`Xan`	`alright`
`20:20.53`	`vailreth`	`i didnt finish`
`20:20.55`	`vailreth`	`sorry`
`20:21.09`	`Helral\|Afk`	`hehehe`
`20:21.27`	`Helral\|Afk`	`ow you were just specifying the lowest level ;p`
`20:21.39`	`Helral\|Afk`	`it sounded like the complete set .... my bad :)`
`20:21.49`	`vailreth`	`basicly two for true two for false one for a true and b ture and ones for a true b false ..`
`20:21.58`	`Xan`	`omg`
`20:22.19`	`vailreth`	`and a false and b true`
`20:22.46`	`vailreth`	`thats nothing i have about a 180 validators for one ability`
`20:22.51`	`Xan`	`wtf`
`20:22.55`	`Helral\|Afk`	`lol`
`20:23.07`	`Xan`	`crazy`
`20:23.30`	`hawker`	`froswtwind, why do you incessantly complain the irc?`
`20:23.56`	`vailreth`	`well i wanted the ability done in data instead of triggers...so i could easily move it between maps`
`20:24.25`	`hawker`	`*on the ric`
`20:24.28`	`hawker`	`*rc`
`20:24.29`	`hawker`	`*irc`
`20:24.30`	`Xan`	`what kind of insane ability is that`
`20:24.49`	`vailreth`	`its my grind ability`
`20:25.33`	`vailreth`	`checks two things how many behaviors of a particular type are on a unit and what type of unit it is`
`20:28.14`	`Xan`	`how long did it take?`
`20:28.52`	`vailreth`	`about 16 hours or so spread over 8 days`
`20:29.04`	`Xan`	`wow`
`20:29.25`	`vailreth`	`but then i had to make about half as many effects as did validators`
`20:29.51`	`vailreth`	`oh and individual combines can only have about 30 validators in side them`
`20:30.00`	`vailreth`	`maybe only s0`
`20:30.04`	`vailreth`	`20*`
`20:30.34`	`vailreth`	`the nice thing is weven though all of these effects and validators lag my editor`
`20:30.44`	`vailreth`	`it doesnt lag the game as far as ican tell`
`20:40.28`	`vailreth`	`any one know of a company able to build custom pc accesories?`
`20:43.17`	`hawker`	`i dont, but sounds quite easy to find through google`
`20:43.21`	`hawker`	`just sayin'`
`20:43.22`	`hawker`	`:D`
`20:45.42`	`vailreth`	`well what i am looking for is an external 300 disk blueray drive`
`20:46.21`	`vailreth`	`that i can connect to my desktop and use as an external drive for game dvds and such`
`20:52.46`	`Apple_`	`how do you detect a doodad with a traceline function?`
`20:52.52`	`Apple_`	`how would you`
`21:01.08`	`Mexa`	`tampa1adam, whatever that program did, I am graceous.. The network have never been better`
`21:01.35`	`Mexa`	`Either that program, or switching virus protection, or updating wireless drivers, or restarting the computer`
`21:01.55`	`Mexa`	`And gracious`
`21:01.56`	`Mexa`	`:)`
`21:04.54`	`Xan`	`np`
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`21:13.14`	`Birdie_`	`Is it possible to play two animations at once on sc2?`
`21:14.55`	`Helral\|Afk`	`nope 2nd animation cancel first one, if they're both on the same actor. (if you have 2 actors combined for 1 unit, then it might be possible to have each do something different)`
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`21:17.31`	`Apple_`	`is a collosus 2 actors`
`21:19.22`	`Apple_`	`hey does anyone know anything about detecting doodads`
`21:19.26`	`Apple_`	`is it even possible`
`21:19.40`	`Apple_`	`do i have to put a unit there instead`
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`21:22.44`	`Birdie_`	`Irc fail`
`21:22.49`	`Birdie_`	`Ipod*`
`21:23.04`	`Birdie_`	`Is it possible to play two animations at once in sc2?`
`21:23.16`	`vailreth`	`no`
`21:24.05`	`Birdie_`	`k`
`21:24.16`	`vailreth`	`if we knew how to make m3a files we could add aditional animations to units but we as far as i can tell we have no way of knowing how to do that`
`21:25.15`	`Apple_`	`need to go into teh future and grab one of those models that come lower body and upper body`
`21:26.02`	`Birdie_`	`Funny how sc2 can't but fps made in 1990 could.`
`21:26.05`	`Birdie_`	`O wel`
`21:26.31`	`vailreth`	`why include what you dont need?`
`21:27.34`	`Birdie_`	`BUT THEY TOLD US`
`21:27.46`	`Birdie_`	`"sc2 can make fps ololol"`
`21:28.52`	`vailreth`	`so? just because it can do a thing dosent mean it can do that thing well or even correctly`
`21:30.22`	`Birdie_`	`Do what you can to the very best of your ability to do it.`
`21:30.31`	`Birdie_`	`Anything less is a copout.`
`21:30.44`	`Birdie_`	`Anyway, doesn't bother me too much`
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`21:42.10`	`Apple_`	`iono i like limitations kinda`
`21:42.35`	`Apple_`	`cuz u gotta be creative with the limits, and i think thats one of the main things i like about mapping`
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`21:54.52`	`Clord`	`console gamer who plays FPS games on console instead PC... is happy of SCII aiming systems lol`
`21:55.01`	`Clord`	`but as PC gamer I want to aim.... actually aim`
`21:55.11`	`Clord`	`so it is not really ideal to try make FPS map`
`21:56.47`	`Clord`	`also`
`21:56.51`	`Clord`	`they talked of third person shooters`
`21:56.54`	`Clord`	`not first person shooters`
`21:57.02`	`Clord`	`those who work for Blizzard`
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`21:59.09`	`Xan`	`how can you play FPS on a console :s`
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`22:03.41`	`Vailreth`	`hello folks`
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`22:07.40`	`Clord`	`Xan.... well it goes like this`
`22:07.44`	`Clord`	`you point to general direction`
`22:07.49`	`Clord`	`and FPS game aims for you`
`22:07.52`	`Clord`	`to actually hit`
`22:07.53`	`pirate`	`anyone here write in galaxy?`
`22:08.10`	`Xan`	`sounds pretty boring`
`22:08.18`	`Clord`	`even if in PC version you would not hit.. console version "helps" you to hit anyways`
`22:09.32`	`pirate`	`:(`
`22:10.14`	`Clord`	`yeah... some FPS games on consoles go even this far that it keeps aiming automatically for running targets... so basically they can't dodge`
`22:10.20`	`Clord`	`and player can just keep pressing button`
`22:10.34`	`Mexa_`	`pirate, I'm about to leave, make it very quick`
`22:14.47`	`pirate`	`failure`
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`22:17.51`	`JademusSreg`	`Frostwind, that's easy. Start a new project.`
`22:17.59`	`mapsterman`	`sup son`
`22:18.02`	`Frostwind`	`huh?`
`22:18.07`	`mapsterman`	`Â¯\_(ã)_/Â¯`
`22:18.20`	`mapsterman`	`whats up son`
`22:18.21`	`JademusSreg`	`I was responding to something you wrote more than an hour ago.`
`22:18.27`	`mapsterman`	`me?`
`22:18.35`	`JademusSreg`	`Nope. =D`
`22:18.35`	`mapsterman`	`i been sleeping for 8 hours :3`
`22:18.40`	`mapsterman`	`ah`
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`22:19.20`	`JademusSreg`	`[16:15:39] <Frostwind> It really sucks not having a project to work on. :(`
`22:19.42`	`mapsterman`	`I wish I was motivated like u`
`22:19.55`	`mapsterman`	`I preffer laddering`
`22:20.00`	`Frostwind`	`i had a project but due to a problem that no one will help me with I can't continue`
`22:20.05`	`mapsterman`	`but making maps is fun fun fun too`
`22:20.21`	`mapsterman`	`why dont you help me with my project Â¯\_(ã)_/Â¯`
`22:20.38`	`mapsterman`	`already at 100hours and map is like 30% complete Â¯\_(ã)_/Â¯`
`22:20.59`	`JademusSreg`	`We've helped you.`
`22:21.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Which is to say we've told you what must be done.`
`22:21.17`	`JademusSreg`	`You want X, but X is not possible, you need Y.`
`22:21.17`	`mapsterman`	`uh`
`22:21.26`	`JademusSreg`	`Yet you insist on believing X is possible.`
`22:21.43`	`mapsterman`	`yea people in here have helped me a bit`
`22:22.16`	`mapsterman`	`well apparently it is totally imposiible to either convert text to string or compare text Â¯\_(ã)_/Â¯`
`22:22.46`	`mapsterman`	`bliz says they might fix it in next expantion Â¯\_(ã)_/Â¯`
`22:22.50`	`JademusSreg`	`X here is getting a model to play stand and attack simultaneously without a model edit, Y is using anim groups to manage sets on animations by editing the model.`
`22:22.50`	`Frostwind`	`No one has bother to even try`
`22:23.28`	`mapsterman`	`it's been pissing a lot of people off`
`22:23.38`	`mapsterman`	`as I read on the sc2 mapster forums`
`22:24.21`	`JademusSreg`	`You are simply being ridiculous. That this is not apparent to you, that the approach you desire is not possible, I repeat it is impossible to execute on data alone without a model edit, demonstrates how poorly you understand the systems you seek to modify.`
`22:24.46`	`mapsterman`	`:/`
`22:25.03`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm addressing Frostwind, mapperson, not you. =D`
`22:25.12`	`mapsterman`	`yo frost`
`22:25.15`	`mapsterman`	`i found work for you`
`22:25.23`	`Vailreth`	`bah i dislike stupid children that want easy buttons for everything "wah wah wah the editor is hard wah wah wah "`
`22:25.26`	`JademusSreg`	`TextToString would be nice, I agree.`
`22:25.32`	`mapsterman`	`why does some bank data randomly decides to not load`
`22:26.00`	`mapsterman`	`vail, Im not whining I wasnt it easier, it is simply impossible to do`
`22:26.05`	`Vailreth`	`not you`
`22:26.11`	`Vailreth`	`i was reading the forums`
`22:26.16`	`mapsterman`	`ah`
`22:26.16`	`Frostwind`	`This is the only problem I've had`
`22:26.21`	`Vailreth`	`more crying about how the editor is too hard`
`22:26.35`	`mapsterman`	`its hard for new users`
`22:26.43`	`Vailreth`	`yes.`
`22:26.55`	`Vailreth`	`but i didnt whine about it..`
`22:26.59`	`mapsterman`	`they shoul dmake a mode with ez UI so that anyone can make basic maps without any knowleage`
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`22:27.03`	`Vailreth`	`i didnt demand an easy mode...`
`22:27.27`	`mapsterman`	`I wouldnt use it im just saying it would be a good idea`
`22:27.31`	`Vailreth`	`all they really need are some decent fing tool tips`
`22:27.39`	`mapsterman`	`lol`
`22:27.41`	`Vailreth`	`thats the main thing that is a problem`
`22:27.47`	`mapsterman`	`and global banks Â¯\_(ã)_/Â¯`
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`22:29.32`	`Vailreth`	`though wouldnt you agree that the majority of the hardness and confusion with the editor comes from their craptastic tool tips?`
`22:30.12`	`mapsterman`	`uhm,, yea very true, sometimes stuff what no tooltiop at all...`
`22:30.19`	`mapsterman`	`and youre left sondering what it does`
`22:30.21`	`mapsterman`	`wondering*`
`22:30.49`	`mapsterman`	`esp in data`
`22:51.41`	`Vailreth`	`yep`
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`23:00.14`	`Vailreth`	`hey Xorioz`
`23:00.26`	`XorioZ`	`yo`
`23:00.47`	`Vailreth`	`working hard?`
`23:01.02`	`XorioZ`	`not right now. :)`
`23:01.06`	`Vailreth`	`heh`
`23:01.19`	`XorioZ`	`i will be later. hope i can upload the UI tomorrow.`
`23:01.25`	`Vailreth`	`nice`
`23:01.43`	`XorioZ`	`well i'm gaming borderlands with a m8 right now.`
`23:12.45`	`*** join/#sc2mapster vailreth (kvirc@75.108.215.142)`
`23:13.46`	`vailreth`	`grah stupid power dip`
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`23:27.27`	`Nash\|327`	`hand me kittuns`
`23:28.02`	`vailreth`	`send me women`
`23:28.13`	`vailreth`	`pretty women around my own age`
`23:28.51`	`Nash\|327`	`nope`
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`23:31.54`	`Xan`	`send you in the mail vail?`
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`23:35.02`	`Frall`	`Anyone know whats up with this bug? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W2b2IWR3Z0&feature=youtube_gdata`
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`23:36.00`	`Zanryu`	`try to check ingame if the road appears`
`23:36.18`	`Frall`	`It does not :/`
`23:36.21`	`Zanryu`	`the texture doodads like dacals or something also don't load correctly in editor sometimes`
`23:36.33`	`Zanryu`	`but it works ingame`
`23:36.56`	`Zanryu`	`is it only that area?`
`23:37.41`	`Frall`	`Yeah`
`23:38.47`	`Zanryu`	`either there is something with the terrain or the area is completly messed up. maybe you should searching for the borders of the buggy area`
`23:38.55`	`Zanryu`	`maybe it could help you to understand the why`
`23:39.15`	`Frall`	`yeah`
`23:39.37`	`Frall`	`Teh map i pritty large from north so south might have something to do with that? :S`
`23:39.44`	`Frall`	`re install sc2 perhaps. :S`
`23:40.28`	`Zanryu`	`usually it shouldn't something that way`
`23:40.54`	`Frall`	`yeah`
`23:41.08`	`Frall`	`I'll check the borders where it doesent work`
`23:41.10`	`Frall`	`tnx`
`23:41.10`	`Zanryu`	`as long as you not extend your map over 256 of course^^`
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`23:43.25`	`Frall`	`Its 248 >_< kinda long. :P`
`23:44.21`	`Zanryu`	`my current map is 256x256 so don't worry about it^^`
`23:44.39`	`Frall`	`And road works everywhere on your map? :)`
`23:44.45`	`Zanryu`	`yep`
`23:44.50`	`Frall`	`ok cool`
`23:44.51`	`Frall`	`tnx`
`23:44.55`	`Zanryu`	`in the city part^^`
`23:45.36`	`Zanryu`	`wastelands and labs havn't roads^^ interiors also don't have, too^^`
`23:45.59`	`Frall`	`but the very north and south parts have roads? :P`
`23:46.09`	`Zanryu`	`i check it`
`23:46.32`	`Zanryu`	`yup without any problems`
`23:46.56`	`mapsterman`	`yo son`
`23:47.08`	`mapsterman`	`whats the default action in a switch`
`23:47.20`	`mapsterman`	is it just like an Ã¨lse`Ã
`23:47.25`	`Frall`	`ok tnx allot`
`23:47.27`	`mapsterman`	`"else"*`
`23:50.00`	`Zanryu`	`i think yes, when none of the assigned conditions are true`
`23:55.48`	`pirate`	`how come pasting, "libNtv_gf_CreateUnitsWithDefaultFacing(1, marine, c_unit_CreateIgnorePlacement, 1, PointFromID(1));" into a custom script action doesn't work?`
`23:56.40`	`Nash\|327`	`'tuns`
`23:56.58`	`pirate`	`?`
`23:58.46`	`pirate`	`:(`

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