IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20110713

`00:01.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster FireryRage (~FireryRag@98.143.96.56)`
`00:05.31`	`Vailreth`	`thanks`
`00:07.36`	`Vailreth`	`well shit this wont work this way`
`00:07.47`	`mind_spark`	`what doesent work?`
`00:09.10`	`Vailreth`	`it gives the resources to the owner of the unit ...`
`00:12.02`	`Vailreth`	`i was wrong its not giving resources for zerglings at all`
`00:15.22`	`mind_spark`	`k`
`00:15.53`	`mind_spark`	`triggers i guess?`
`00:18.08`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Frostwind (~fhbjsdbkj@68.90.11.146)`
`00:18.17`	`Frostwind`	`hi :(`
`00:19.42`	`Vailreth`	`gah so strange why wont this one effect work`
`00:21.13`	`Currydevil`	`=\|`
`00:21.28`	`hawker`	`what exactly was your problem again frostwind?`
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`00:21.35`	`Caz`	`because zerglings are all skin nd bones`
`00:21.41`	`Caz`	`u need food with meat on it`
`00:22.49`	`FockeWulf`	`Hey can anyone help me figure out why when I replace a resource icon by overwriting it in the map when I save and reload the icon is back to the default?`
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`00:28.25`	`Vailreth`	`that is the improper way to alter those icons`
`00:28.51`	`FockeWulf`	`ok then could you please explain to me the proper way to alter the icons?`
`00:32.34`	`Caz`	`Can we import trigger folders from an existing map ?`
`00:32.47`	`Currydevil`	`yes`
`00:32.56`	`Currydevil`	`you can copy paste them too i think`
`00:33.00`	`Caz`	`awesome`
`00:33.14`	`Vailreth`	`sure after importing the art you want to use as the new icon you need to create an Assets.txt folder that changes the paths from the default to the ones you want.`
`00:33.42`	`Vailreth`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/14933-texture-how-to-change-resource-icon/`
`00:36.55`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Agouti (~Agouti@60-240-2-243.tpgi.com.au)`
`00:37.09`	`Vailreth`	`FockeWulf: the link i just posted should help`
`00:37.38`	`Frostwind`	`hawker: I need to play 2 animations together. I.E. Attacking and running`
`00:37.38`	`FockeWulf`	`thank you!`
`00:37.42`	`Vailreth`	`be warned though that paths set in the SC2COre mod can not be overwriten`
`00:38.20`	`Vailreth`	`for the time being anyway`
`00:38.32`	`Vailreth`	`hopefully blizz will change that soon`
`00:41.57`	`FockeWulf`	`I can change it to any old path though right?`
`00:42.38`	`Vailreth`	`i would leave the path the same as it is in the file and just change the file refrence at the end of the path to your custom file`
`00:42.57`	`Vailreth`	`and have that file in the proper path tree in the map`
`00:43.55`	`FockeWulf`	`ok`
`00:44.14`	`FockeWulf`	`btw i am not finding the listed path: "patch.sc2archive/mods/liberty.sc2mod/base.sc2data/GameData/Assets.txt"`
`00:44.35`	`Vailreth`	`you have an mpq editor?`
`00:44.39`	`FockeWulf`	`yup`
`00:44.49`	`FockeWulf`	`im trying to find the patch.sc2archive file`
`00:45.00`	`FockeWulf`	`wait is it in the mydocs?`
`00:45.03`	`FockeWulf`	`or in the other one?`
`00:45.04`	`Vailreth`	`its in the versions folder of the install directory`
`00:46.00`	`Vailreth`	`you will want the latested version with the highest number`
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`00:48.16`	`FockeWulf`	`how often does this asset.txt change?`
`00:48.32`	`Vailreth`	`not sure.`
`00:49.19`	`Frostwind`	`sighs`
`00:49.22`	`Vailreth`	`but once you have one in the map that overrides the default you likely wont have to worry about updating it unless something drastic occours or you are converstion for HotS`
`00:49.58`	`FockeWulf`	`ah ok`
`00:50.00`	`Vailreth`	`converting to *`
`00:51.13`	`Frostwind`	`is very sad`
`00:51.44`	`Vailreth`	`...`
`00:52.19`	`Vailreth`	`you are not winning ant Pitty Frosty ...i am sorry the engine does not support animation blending like you need`
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`00:59.49`	`Caz`	`pities frost......grants him a swift death to ease the pain`
`01:09.41`	`Vailreth`	`well i have grind working perfectly`
`01:13.39`	`Caz`	`woot woot`
`01:13.47`	`Vailreth`	`thanks`
`01:14.11`	`Vailreth`	`i just dont know what to work on next i have so so much to do`
`01:16.54`	`Vailreth`	`well folks im gone for abit i want to play a bit of the campaign`
`01:19.17`	`FockeWulf`	`gah`
`01:19.27`	`FockeWulf`	`for some reason this is still not working >.<`
`01:19.45`	`FockeWulf`	`I have it exactly as the guide says it should be... Can anyone help me here?`
`01:26.37`	`Caziloughagus`	`My friend went off somewhere with no internet. I told him that i dont know how he can stand it. If i were dieing, I'd have to be attached to the life support system via ethernet cable.`
`01:28.21`	`Caz`	`Why do i get a warning about my nick name being used, then get the nickname anyway lol ?`
`01:29.54`	`Agouti`	`beats the fuck out of me why prosilver broke`
`01:29.57`	`Agouti`	`but I can't fix it`
`01:29.58`	`Agouti`	`so bl`
`01:30.09`	`Agouti`	`ah fuck wrong channel`
`01:30.17`	`Caz`	`>>`
`01:30.23`	`Agouti`	`just one of those days`
`01:30.28`	`Agouti`	`also, I hate phpbb`
`01:31.01`	`Agouti`	`it's complaining about a missing template file`
`01:31.02`	`Currydevil`	`lol`
`01:31.07`	`Agouti`	`which isn't in any release`
`01:31.18`	`Agouti`	`from RC1 through to current`
`01:31.28`	`Agouti`	`retarded fecking thing`
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`02:01.06`	`egod`	`is there a estimate for the Marketplace?`
`02:01.17`	`Sixen`	`supposedly around the time HotS comes out`
`02:01.19`	`egod`	`before expansion or after?`
`02:01.35`	`egod`	`hm`
`02:04.52`	`FockeWulf`	`and of course any fixes to this epic fail excuse of a battle.net is gong to wait for hots too right?`
`02:04.55`	`FockeWulf`	`soo figures`
`02:05.18`	`FockeWulf`	`and of course those fixes will fail as usual`
`02:05.26`	`FockeWulf`	`the only way they will fix a damned thing is if hots flops`
`02:05.35`	`FockeWulf`	`so don't buy it lol`
`02:06.45`	`Frostwind`	`really sucks that I won't be able to continue on my project :(`
`02:14.39`	`*** join/#sc2mapster hawker (63e9c492@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.233.196.146)`
`02:14.48`	`XenoX101`	`does anyone know how I can hide the button border without hiding the button?`
`02:15.09`	`XenoX101`	`in dialogs?`
`02:24.17`	`Caz`	`will setting the start location in map properties auto-pan the camera for each player to the set startLoc ?`
`02:24.22`	`Vail\|Campaign`	`FockeWulf: i think a few patches ago they removed the ability to overwrite the files from teh Core mod file`
`02:24.45`	`FockeWulf`	`Great`
`02:24.52`	`FockeWulf`	`So do you have any other method to do this?`
`02:25.09`	`Vailreth`	`no blizzard rendered it impossible as far as i know`
`02:25.26`	`FockeWulf`	`ah ok good to know`
`02:25.27`	`FockeWulf`	`thanks`
`02:25.29`	`Vailreth`	`they dont actually want us to be able to mod...`
`02:26.01`	`Vailreth`	`the editor is just for show to look like they still support tehe modding community`
`02:26.14`	`Agouti`	`I think it is more like`
`02:26.22`	`Agouti`	`they want to support modding`
`02:26.34`	`Agouti`	`but not enough to actually invest significant man hours in the editor`
`02:27.07`	`Vailreth`	`but then why do they remove functionality every so many patches`
`02:27.16`	`Agouti`	`what do you mean?`
`02:27.51`	`Vailreth`	`a few patches ago the removed the ability to overwrite the strings in the SC2Core.Mod Assets.txt`
`02:28.56`	`Vailreth`	`basicly renedering us unable to alter the icons in the ui for Resources and suppy`
`02:29.15`	`Agouti`	`no-o`
`02:29.22`	`Agouti`	`you can still do it`
`02:29.25`	`Vailreth`	`how?`
`02:29.32`	`Agouti`	`how much is it worth to you?`
`02:29.33`	`Agouti`	`-.o`
`02:29.57`	`Vailreth`	`not much to me but FockeWulf Needs to do it`
`02:30.11`	`FockeWulf`	`?`
`02:30.12`	`FockeWulf`	`well`
`02:30.22`	`FockeWulf`	`its basically the entire economic aspect of ww2 diplo`
`02:30.24`	`Agouti`	`it is still done in the same manner`
`02:30.28`	`FockeWulf`	`so sure its worth a fair amount`
`02:30.40`	`Agouti`	`except you need to provide more information`
`02:30.42`	`FockeWulf`	`ok`
`02:30.46`	`Agouti`	`here is my entries:`
`02:30.47`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIcon0=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-wood.dds`
`02:30.47`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIcon0_Prot=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-wood.dds`
`02:30.47`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIcon0_Terr=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-wood.dds`
`02:30.47`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIcon0_Zerg=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-wood.dds`
`02:30.47`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIconNoBackgound0=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-wood.dd`
`02:30.49`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIconNoBackgound0_Prot=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-wood.dds`
`02:30.51`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIconNoBackgound0_Terr=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-wood.dds`
`02:30.53`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIconNoBackgound0_Zerg=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-wood.dds`
`02:30.55`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIcon1=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-gold.dds`
`02:30.56`	`Vailreth`	`eh..`
`02:30.57`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIcon1_Prot=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-gold.dds`
`02:30.59`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIcon1_Terr=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-gold.dds`
`02:31.01`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIcon1_Zerg=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-gold.dds`
`02:31.03`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIconNoBackgound1=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-gold.dds`
`02:31.05`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIconNoBackgound1_Prot=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-gold.dds`
`02:31.09`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIconNoBackgound1_Terr=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-gold.dds`
`02:31.11`	`Agouti`	`UI/ResourceIconNoBackgound1_Zerg=Assets\Custom Icons\icon-gold.dds`
`02:31.13`	`Agouti`	`yes, that is all required`
`02:31.15`	`FockeWulf`	`ok i am modding the supply icon`
`02:31.24`	`Agouti`	`similar theme`
`02:31.26`	`FockeWulf`	`the other 2 i am hiding`
`02:31.36`	`Agouti`	`you need to specify NoBackground`
`02:31.39`	`Agouti`	`and each race`
`02:31.47`	`Agouti`	`as well as the base`
`02:31.56`	`Agouti`	`so that is 8 entries per icon`
`02:32.20`	`FockeWulf`	`hmm`
`02:32.27`	`FockeWulf`	`i can't find the not background supply ones`
`02:32.38`	`Agouti`	`find?`
`02:32.43`	`Agouti`	`they are the same`
`02:32.58`	`Agouti`	`there is no separate icon for nobackground`
`02:33.11`	`Agouti`	`however they added the functionality for it`
`02:33.43`	`Agouti`	`I believe it has something to do with supporting alpha in the .dds`
`02:34.07`	`Agouti`	`regardless, the change was the game now defaults (for most people, anyway) to the NoBackground entry`
`02:34.15`	`Agouti`	`which happens to also be the same icon as before`
`02:34.42`	`Agouti`	`long story short you need to specify both`
`02:35.11`	`FockeWulf`	`ok so whats the link for the supply ones cause I can only find the ones with background`
`02:35.21`	`Vailreth`	`thats good to know for when i go to change the cutsom resource icon later ...`
`02:35.37`	`FockeWulf`	`UI/ResourceIconNoBackgound1=Assets\Textures\icon-gas-terran_nobg.dds`
`02:35.39`	`FockeWulf`	`oh wait?`
`02:35.40`	`FockeWulf`	`that one?`
`02:35.49`	`FockeWulf`	`just change it to the same thing?`
`02:35.58`	`Agouti`	`yes`
`02:36.08`	`Agouti`	`unless you have 2 copies of the icon`
`02:36.15`	`Agouti`	`one with background, one with alpha`
`02:36.37`	`Agouti`	`in which case set the one with alpha to nobackground and the one without to normal`
`02:36.39`	`Vailreth`	`i just wish i could make a custom loading bar.`
`02:36.54`	`Agouti`	`if I had one wish`
`02:37.00`	`Agouti`	`it would be for server side banks`
`02:37.10`	`Agouti`	`just 16 bytes per player is all I want`
`02:37.22`	`Agouti`	`I would even be happy with 4`
`02:37.42`	`Caz`	`too easy to cheat with local banks`
`02:37.46`	`Agouti`	`indeed`
`02:38.06`	`Agouti`	`a way to reliably assign a unique identifier to a player would also be nice`
`02:38.31`	`Caz`	`?`
`02:38.47`	`Agouti`	`for implementing bans`
`02:38.48`	`Agouti`	`etc`
`02:38.49`	`Vailreth`	`i have art for a custom loading bar and even entries for a custom bar in data but... it wont accept the assets. txt changes i make to point to the new files`
`02:39.01`	`Agouti`	`as well as another tool to verify bank contents`
`02:39.13`	`Agouti`	`f.e. banks encrypted using the unique identifier as the key`
`02:39.17`	`XenoX101`	`so does nobody know if I can hide the ugly button graphic for buttons?`
`02:39.22`	`XenoX101`	`I don't want to use their frame`
`02:41.29`	`Caz`	`does presetting the start locations auto-pan the cameras ?`
`02:41.32`	`FockeWulf`	`do you want to replace it or just hide it?`
`02:43.19`	`XenoX101`	`either`
`02:43.23`	`XenoX101`	`it needs to go`
`02:44.36`	`FockeWulf`	`well`
`02:44.39`	`FockeWulf`	`if you want a new ui`
`02:44.44`	`FockeWulf`	`then you need to make a new .m3 model`
`02:44.51`	`FockeWulf`	`and overwrite the old ones`
`02:45.04`	`XenoX101`	`no I don't need a new UI`
`02:45.09`	`XenoX101`	`I just want these buttons to be, my buttons`
`02:45.11`	`FockeWulf`	`otherwise if you just want it hide it completely, just use triggers i think`
`02:45.32`	`XenoX101`	`like why do I need the stupid blizzard button frame`
`02:45.39`	`XenoX101`	`I have my button image`
`02:45.59`	`FockeWulf`	`i think also replacing the model with a blank might also work`
`02:46.05`	`FockeWulf`	`and thats because its blizzard>.>`
`02:46.22`	`XenoX101`	`it would replace all buttons though`
`02:46.30`	`XenoX101`	`because they use the same damn frame for the UI`
`02:46.58`	`XenoX101`	`how do people make custom UI's if they can't change what a button looks like`
`02:47.24`	`FockeWulf`	`cause they just move shit around and/or use dialogs with triggers`
`02:47.42`	`FockeWulf`	`can't expect blizzfail to think man`
`02:47.44`	`FockeWulf`	`not anymore`
`02:52.41`	`Vailreth`	`yeah`
`02:54.03`	`Vailreth`	`they gave us a huge sandbox but cordined of like half of it only they did so very akwardly`
`02:54.13`	`FockeWulf`	`I'm not even referring to that`
`02:54.27`	`FockeWulf`	`the map editor has always had issues no matter what game`
`02:54.32`	`FockeWulf`	`its the popularity system`
`02:54.37`	`Vailreth`	`ah that`
`02:54.40`	`FockeWulf`	`blizzard has NEVER failed to fix shit like that before`
`02:54.51`	`Vailreth`	`'the truth is they dont care`
`02:54.52`	`FockeWulf`	`and yet this time they failed to fix it`
`02:55.04`	`Vailreth`	`its not pro gaming so they dont give a shit`
`02:55.24`	`FockeWulf`	`that didn't work either`
`02:55.54`	`Vailreth`	`what do you mean?`
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`03:01.29`	`Vailreth`	`FockeWulf?`
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`03:03.14`	`RndmObjcts`	`any data people around?`
`03:03.20`	`Vailreth`	`poof`
`03:03.22`	`Vailreth`	`im here`
`03:03.29`	`Vailreth`	`like darkwing duck`
`03:04.06`	`RndmObjcts`	`oh wait i ment trigger people xD lol`
`03:04.15`	`Vailreth`	`damn you`
`03:04.22`	`Vailreth`	`* leave poof*`
`03:04.32`	`RndmObjcts`	`sorry lol i wasnt thinking xD`
`03:04.49`	`Vailreth`	`what are you trying to do with triggers?`
`03:04.56`	`Frostwind`	`:(`
`03:05.35`	`RndmObjcts`	`well i have a dialog that uses a label to count up as a timer`
`03:05.51`	`RndmObjcts`	`but i cant move the label.. the second i move it anywhere it disapears completely`
`03:06.27`	`Vailreth`	`are you reshowing the lable after it moves?`
`03:06.28`	`XenoX101`	`why does sc2mapster automatically assume you want to view the last post in a thread?`
`03:06.33`	`XenoX101`	`it's pretty stupid`
`03:06.39`	`Vailreth`	`no idea but your are right`
`03:06.57`	`RndmObjcts`	`no i didnt know it needed to be re shown, i'll give that a try`
`03:07.12`	`Vailreth`	`i dont know that it has to be either but it might`
`03:07.33`	`hawker`	`frostwind`
`03:07.33`	`hawker`	`what exactly is the issue`
`03:07.36`	`hawker`	`i am curious`
`03:07.41`	`Frostwind`	`hawker: I need to play 2 animations together. I.E. Attacking and running`
`03:08.05`	`Vailreth`	`he wants to blend two different animations .. and play them at the same time..`
`03:08.08`	`Vailreth`	`yeah`
`03:10.39`	`RndmObjcts`	`yea showing the item didnt work either`
`03:10.52`	`Vailreth`	`hm`
`03:11.33`	`Vailreth`	`then there might be only one other solution...,`
`03:12.27`	`Vailreth`	`incremntally creating and destroying new labes between the start and end loction of the move in sequence so that it appears to be a single one animated acorss`
`03:12.32`	`hawker`	`well`
`03:12.41`	`hawker`	`i'm no expert`
`03:13.14`	`hawker`	`but that sounds as if you need some serious work in an 3rd-party program(ie. 3DS Max)`
`03:13.17`	`hawker`	`just my gut feeling`
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`03:15.13`	`Vailreth`	`thats what i think as well`
`03:16.28`	`Vailreth`	`the issue there is allof the newly animated models with take up alot of space... now if there were a way to create M3A files and attach them to existing models`
`03:17.17`	`Vailreth`	`will take up not with*`
`03:21.21`	`XenoX101`	`vailreth do you know how to replace the button image`
`03:21.23`	`XenoX101`	`itself`
`03:21.31`	`XenoX101`	`not just put an image under it`
`03:21.41`	`Vailreth`	`nope`
`03:21.59`	`XenoX101`	`sigh`
`03:22.04`	`Vailreth`	`might be somewhere in the assets .txt file though`
`03:22.07`	`hawker`	`frostwin`
`03:22.12`	`XenoX101`	`dialog designer does it`
`03:22.16`	`hawker`	`my only substantive advice`
`03:22.21`	`hawker`	`is to make a thread`
`03:22.24`	`hawker`	`in the main request`
`03:22.28`	`hawker`	`pretty active`
`03:22.30`	`hawker`	`forum`
`03:22.38`	`hawker`	`might be able to do this for you`
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`03:24.46`	`Frostwind`	`hawker, posting on forums never works, people only ignore threads`
`03:25.07`	`hawker`	`going to disagree, but it's up to you`
`03:25.08`	`hawker`	`as i've said before`
`03:25.27`	`hawker`	`and in all honesty, you don't seem to be doing much better on the irc`
`03:25.34`	`hawker`	`so what do you have to lose?`
`03:25.38`	`hawker`	`5 minutes of your time?`
`03:26.05`	`Frostwind`	`plus, World of Warcraft does it without using special animations. in WoW walking and attacking are separate animations and yet can be played together`
`03:27.00`	`hawker`	`again, my only advice is to make a thread. i think it's become abundantly clear that no one here can help you`
`03:27.25`	`hawker`	`it will probably take you 5 minutes at most`
`03:27.33`	`Sixen`	`probably not even that long`
`03:28.05`	`Vailreth`	`yo Sixen`
`03:28.13`	`Sixen`	`sup`
`03:28.39`	`Vailreth`	`nothing much, happy my asset is finally up on mapster`
`03:28.43`	`Sixen`	`;P`
`03:29.28`	`Vailreth`	`i just hope it is found to be useful`
`03:29.57`	`Sixen`	`what'd you make? I haven't looked yet`
`03:30.20`	`hawker`	`was it "grind" or whatever?`
`03:30.20`	`Vailreth`	`some quick zerg hero icon borders`
`03:30.23`	`hawker`	`ah`
`03:30.34`	`Vailreth`	`na my grind ability is for a team projetc`
`03:30.37`	`Sixen`	`oh nice`
`03:31.20`	`Vailreth`	`i included an assets.txt file that enables them as well because the default assets.txt doesnt have entries for them`
`03:33.22`	`RndmObjcts`	`well if anyone is handy with triggers i would appreciate any help! :D http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/23413-dialog-timer-that-counts-up/`
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`03:34.40`	`Frostwind`	`Vailreth: the only thing in assets that you've posted is some zerg borders`
`03:34.50`	`Vailreth`	`yes`
`03:35.04`	`Frostwind`	`yawns`
`03:35.10`	`Vailreth`	`the borders have the assets.text in the zip`
`03:35.50`	`Frostwind`	`here i thought maybe it was something useful like a library or script`
`03:36.18`	`Vailreth`	`its usefull if you want a zerg ui and hero icons to work`
`03:36.34`	`Sixen`	`Seems useful to me.`
`03:37.05`	`Vailreth`	`may not be until Hots that we get blizzard official versions`
`03:37.17`	`Sixen`	`Guarantee we won't get official ones until hots ;p`
`03:38.06`	`Vailreth`	`thanks i just didnt want to sound big egoish by saying that my self`
`03:38.12`	`hawker`	`drooling thinking about how much new content we'll get with hots`
`03:38.13`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`03:38.15`	`hawker`	`yeti models`
`03:38.18`	`hawker`	`:D`
`03:38.21`	`Sixen`	`yup!`
`03:38.24`	`Sixen`	`Those yeti's were pretty swee`
`03:38.28`	`Sixen`	`yeti and yeti matriach`
`03:39.09`	`Vailreth`	`Nice ive successfully made my first dialog...`
`03:39.30`	`Vailreth`	`and a button in it ,,, dosent do anything but it says derp on int`
`03:39.57`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`03:40.24`	`Vailreth`	`i am more of a data type guy my self...`
`03:41.29`	`Vailreth`	`i know im going to make it toggle between Herp and Derp >..> just for the hell of it.`
`03:41.42`	`Vailreth`	`bout time i started learning this stuff`
`03:43.20`	`Frostwind`	`:(`
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`03:44.02`	`Frostwind`	`wish I could be working on my project`
`03:44.07`	`Ashamed_`	`good evening`
`03:44.18`	`Frostwind`	`sadly it will never be finished`
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`03:45.03`	`Vailreth`	`L2Animate`
`03:45.10`	`Agouti`	`that is a mighty fine story Frostwind, but what does it have to do with the price of Tea in Japan?`
`03:45.53`	`Frostwind`	`Vailreth: it has nothing to do with modeling`
`03:46.12`	`Vailreth`	`in the Immortal words of Day9 it has " Fuck Yeah" to do with The price of tea in Japan`
`03:46.52`	`Vailreth`	`you're right it does have nothing to do with modeling it has to do with animating`
`03:47.04`	`RndmObjcts`	`i watched a day9 video yesterday and it fucked my zerg gameplay all up lol.. then again im a noob to sc2 lol... but im starting to win :D`
`03:47.13`	`Frostwind`	`its in SC2`
`03:47.30`	`Frostwind`	`animating is modeling`
`03:47.36`	`Vailreth`	`SC2 doesnt have the capacity to blend animations like you want AND NO`
`03:47.45`	`Vailreth`	`animation is animation`
`03:47.50`	`Vailreth`	`not modeling`
`03:48.00`	`Frostwind`	`they go together`
`03:48.08`	`Vailreth`	`only partially`
`03:48.16`	`Ashamed_`	`so i so got that job`
`03:48.30`	`Vailreth`	`PARTY at Ashamed's House`
`03:48.41`	`Frostwind`	`plus its not like you're helping any`
`03:48.43`	`Vailreth`	`BYOB and BYOF er and BYOM`
`03:48.54`	`Ashamed_`	`lol`
`03:49.24`	`Ashamed_`	`vail i have no clue what your other acronyms mean`
`03:49.30`	`Vailreth`	`food and music`
`03:49.35`	`Ashamed_`	`oh shiz`
`03:49.37`	`Ashamed_`	`Party`
`03:49.42`	`Ashamed_`	`i just went to bdubs`
`03:49.43`	`Ashamed_`	`lol`
`03:49.50`	`Ashamed_`	`this new job is doulbe my salary :)`
`03:49.55`	`Ashamed_`	`double*`
`03:49.57`	`Vailreth`	`NICE`
`03:50.04`	`Sixen`	`So you're taking me out to dinner? :X`
`03:50.12`	`Ashamed_`	`yeah 22 dollars an hour .. so not great`
`03:50.20`	`Agouti`	`Has anyone else seen Frostwind do anything other than make sad little phrases?`
`03:50.27`	`Sixen`	`nope`
`03:50.28`	`Ashamed_`	`Sixen for you yes... Since we have been around so long lol`
`03:50.32`	`Sixen`	`=]`
`03:50.53`	`Ashamed_`	`if you are ever by colorado just let me know :)`
`03:51.24`	`Sixen`	`=D`
`03:51.32`	`Vailreth`	`nice i live in Colorado if by Colorado you mean Hell's Armpit Texas`
`03:51.40`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`03:51.43`	`Ashamed_`	`full paid benifits 15 paid days off... paid vacation and a beer fridge!`
`03:51.50`	`Vailreth`	`whichs is most definantly not colorado`
`03:51.51`	`Sixen`	`I am jelly`
`03:52.02`	`Ashamed_`	`lol`
`03:52.13`	`Ashamed_`	`just move up here vail`
`03:52.14`	`Ashamed_`	`fuck texas`
`03:52.25`	`Ashamed_`	`http://www.plumchoice.com/index.asp`
`03:52.30`	`Ashamed_`	`thats my new employeer`
`03:52.40`	`Vailreth`	`id like to but i cant move away from my caretakers`
`03:52.52`	`Vailreth`	`being nerologically disabled sucks ass`
`03:53.22`	`Sixen`	`:(`
`03:53.27`	`hawker`	`:(`
`03:53.35`	`Vailreth`	`eh you live with it`
`03:54.07`	`Ashamed_`	`so what exactly is this:?`
`03:54.19`	`Vailreth`	`is what?`
`03:54.22`	`Ashamed_`	`like you start shaking?`
`03:54.24`	`Ashamed_`	`sometimes`
`03:54.31`	`Vailreth`	`oh nothing so simple`
`03:54.40`	`hawker`	`agouti, i managed to have a multi-sentence conversation with frostwind`
`03:54.47`	`hawker`	`i consider it a monumental acheivement`
`03:54.52`	`Ashamed_`	`i will take care of you vail`
`03:54.56`	`Ashamed_`	`you are good enough at data`
`03:55.00`	`Sixen`	`lol`
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`03:55.11`	`Vailreth`	`i have Aspergers Syndrome for starters ... Bipolar disorder Dyslexia Paranioa Delusions Halucinations ....`
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`03:55.21`	`Ashamed_`	`wow`
`03:55.23`	`Vailreth`	`Obsessive compulsive disorder`
`03:55.39`	`Ashamed_`	`vail your like crazy ><`
`03:55.40`	`Sixen`	`hallucinations... cool`
`03:55.41`	`Vailreth`	`im generally fucked in the head for being so functional`
`03:55.43`	`Ashamed_`	`but thats cool`
`03:55.55`	`Sixen`	`he's like a real life templar`
`03:55.55`	`Ashamed_`	`you can data thats all that matters`
`03:56.22`	`Ashamed_`	`there is no way for you to move to colorado?`
`03:56.48`	`Vailreth`	`not unless my family moves... i live on disability and barely make it`
`03:57.20`	`Ashamed_`	`tell yo famz`
`03:57.24`	`Ashamed_`	`to get their asses down ehre`
`03:57.35`	`Ashamed_`	`i may be able to get you guys jobs at ibm ><`
`03:57.42`	`Vailreth`	`my step father is a painting subcontractor..`
`03:57.48`	`Ashamed_`	`oh that is cool`
`03:57.51`	`Ashamed_`	`he can work at ibm`
`03:57.55`	`Sixen`	`lol ash...`
`03:58.06`	`Ashamed_`	`sixen no joke`
`03:58.15`	`Ashamed_`	`they dont care if you dont know what a computer is`
`03:58.18`	`Ashamed_`	`as long as you know how to read`
`03:58.21`	`Ashamed_`	`does he know how to read?`
`03:58.26`	`Vailreth`	`yeah]`
`03:58.27`	`Ashamed_`	`Boom job`
`03:58.36`	`Ashamed_`	`can you read vail?`
`03:58.43`	`Sixen`	`he is talking to you`
`03:58.45`	`hawker`	`frostwind: y u no make thread`
`03:58.46`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`03:58.46`	`Vailreth`	`no no i cant >.>`
`03:58.48`	`Ashamed_`	`BOOM JOB`
`03:58.55`	`hawker`	`:`
`03:58.58`	`Ashamed_`	`its not a good job though`
`03:59.01`	`Ashamed_`	`its just a job`
`03:59.04`	`Ashamed_`	`i am so happy i got a new one`
`03:59.08`	`Ashamed_`	`but.... still its a job`
`03:59.22`	`Frostwind`	`no point in it`
`03:59.26`	`Ashamed_`	`they start out at like 10.50 which is like 3 bucks more then min here`
`03:59.39`	`Ashamed_`	`full time`
`03:59.52`	`Frostwind`	`I waste time making a thread when its just gonna be ignored`
`03:59.56`	`Vailreth`	`the dyslexia makes reading a pain`
`04:00.02`	`Ashamed_`	`vail its cool`
`04:00.04`	`Ashamed_`	`you are smart`
`04:00.06`	`Ashamed_`	`so you dont have to read`
`04:00.12`	`Ashamed_`	`if you know pcs`
`04:00.19`	`Ashamed_`	`you dont need your docs`
`04:00.22`	`Frostwind`	`I'm not gonna bother`
`04:00.46`	`Vailreth`	`then go and start a new projecty`
`04:00.49`	`Ashamed_`	`i mean for reals if you guys can change shiz up get me your resumes and i will make sure they get passed along`
`04:00.54`	`Vailreth`	`one within the bounds of the editor`
`04:00.56`	`Frostwind`	`No`
`04:01.06`	`Ashamed_`	`frost what you fail at?`
`04:01.08`	`Vailreth`	`Thanks Ashamed.`
`04:01.22`	`Frostwind`	`I want to finish the project which I've put in countless hours of work`
`04:01.28`	`Ashamed_`	`WHAT PROJECT`
`04:01.43`	`Frostwind`	`ashamed: I need to play 2 animations together. I.E. Attacking and running`
`04:01.46`	`hawker`	`frostwin`
`04:01.58`	`hawker`	`I really see no other logical avenue of attack`
`04:02.03`	`Ashamed_`	`can you use a wow model?`
`04:02.15`	`hawker`	`If you actually want to solve this, spend the two damn minutes it takes to write up your problem on the forum`
`04:02.21`	`Frostwind`	`no since its not a WoW based map`
`04:02.27`	`Ashamed_`	`frost write it`
`04:02.28`	`Ashamed_`	`AHHHHHHHHH`
`04:02.33`	`Ashamed_`	`i had an issue with ribbons`
`04:02.35`	`Vailreth`	`AHHH?`
`04:02.41`	`Ashamed_`	`thought i was going to have to edit the models`
`04:02.45`	`Ashamed_`	`found out i can do it in data :)`
`04:02.49`	`Frostwind`	`hawker: won't do me any good to make a thread which is only ignored`
`04:03.00`	`Vailreth`	`yeah ribbons dont scale properly ...and i know why now`
`04:03.06`	`Ashamed_`	`why vail?`
`04:03.07`	`Sixen`	`frostwind is right, I should delete the forums since nobody uses them. ever.`
`04:03.14`	`hawker`	`Every single thread I have posted has illicited at least one reply`
`04:03.19`	`Ashamed_`	`sixen fucken do it`
`04:03.22`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`04:03.27`	`hawker`	`In the data forum, it takes sub 10 minutes`
`04:03.30`	`Frostwind`	`mine never get replies`
`04:03.38`	`Ashamed_`	`frost its cuz you aint a cool kid`
`04:03.46`	`Vailreth`	`their target points are fixed out side of the main model... so when you scale down the model it trys to retain the same target points for the ends of the ribbons`
`04:03.49`	`hawker`	`jsut stick something in data`
`04:03.54`	`hawker`	`it will get replied to`
`04:03.57`	`Ashamed_`	`oh`
`04:03.58`	`hawker`	`and if not`
`04:04.02`	`Ashamed_`	`can you fix that vail?`
`04:04.14`	`hawker`	`you've wasted less time than you have writing frowney faces on the irc`
`04:04.16`	`Ashamed_`	`is there a way to scale down their target points?`
`04:04.31`	`Vailreth`	`if Nintoxicated can implement ribbons in his importer and exporter i think its possible`
`04:04.52`	`Ashamed_`	`keep me updated on this project :)`
`04:05.05`	`Ashamed_`	`oh thats the one for the 3dmax`
`04:05.12`	`Sixen`	`nins?`
`04:05.43`	`Vailreth`	`is there a reason why he couldnt ?`
`04:05.51`	`Ashamed_`	`i have like a 4th of my ability t\hree`
`04:05.53`	`Ashamed_`	`tree*`
`04:06.01`	`Ashamed_`	`and i hav enot really worked on any more tonight :(`
`04:06.36`	`Vailreth`	`yeah i need to be working on my Corruptors abilites and making them three tiered`
`04:06.51`	`Vailreth`	`and make them give experince when used`
`04:08.21`	`Vailreth`	`and i need a better tittle for his class`
`04:10.24`	`Ashamed_`	`vail`
`04:10.27`	`Ashamed_`	`let me see the heroes?`
`04:10.37`	`Ashamed_`	`i will show you my map so far :)`
`04:10.52`	`Vailreth`	`give me a sec`
`04:10.54`	`Frostwind`	`:(`
`04:11.15`	`Vailreth`	`wait are you still a member of Team Dead A head?`
`04:11.20`	`Ashamed_`	`yes`
`04:11.23`	`Ashamed_`	`duh`
`04:11.24`	`Ashamed_`	`thats wshy i asked`
`04:11.26`	`Ashamed_`	`its my map too`
`04:11.35`	`Vailreth`	`ok just making sure`
`04:11.38`	`Ashamed_`	`i am almost done with inv`
`04:12.22`	`Ashamed_`	`so let me see!`
`04:13.22`	`Ashamed_`	`Its nice that you are on NA with me`
`04:13.57`	`hawker`	`sixen, can i make a thread for frostwind :D`
`04:14.16`	`Vailreth`	`i am going to upload the mod file to our team page`
`04:14.39`	`Frostwind`	`hawker: no point in wasting the time`
`04:14.40`	`Ashamed_`	`iw anna test it with you`
`04:14.49`	`Ashamed_`	`:(`
`04:14.54`	`Ashamed_`	`i logged in and everything`
`04:15.28`	`Vailreth`	`i dont have a map ready for testing sory`
`04:15.44`	`Vailreth`	`wait..`
`04:17.12`	`Vailreth`	`publishing the mod now.. give me a sec to make a few changes to the map that uses it and i will go log in and host`
`04:17.52`	`Ashamed_`	`awesome!`
`04:18.15`	`Ashamed_`	`i got these new gaming headset and they have this vibrate function that simulates the sub`
`04:18.17`	`Ashamed_`	`its pretty cool lol`
`04:21.12`	`Agouti`	`The forums is rarely the place for difficult questions`
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`04:23.20`	`hawker`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/`
`04:23.38`	`hawker`	`cough frostwind cough`
`04:24.29`	`Frostwind`	`nothing there related to my problem`
`04:27.38`	`Sixen`	`lol hawker, go ahead`
`04:27.48`	`hawker`	`:D`
`04:28.14`	`hawker`	`hmm`
`04:28.20`	`hawker`	`he wants to combine animations`
`04:28.24`	`hawker`	`which forum is appropriate`
`04:28.31`	`Sixen`	`art maybe? or data?`
`04:28.39`	`Sixen`	`I don't know much about art`
`04:31.03`	`hawker`	`i'll go data`
`04:33.50`	`hawker`	`which unit is this for frostwin?`
`04:33.59`	`hawker`	`and it's attack + movement, right?`
`04:34.28`	`Frostwind`	`any unit`
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`04:35.17`	`hawker`	`and it's attack + movement?`
`04:35.21`	`Frostwind`	`yea`
`04:35.48`	`hawker`	`so you essentially want what happens in wow if you move your character when it's meleeing`
`04:35.50`	`hawker`	`kk`
`04:36.31`	`Frostwind`	`when moving while attacking`
`04:38.47`	`hawker`	`alright, done`
`04:39.22`	`Agouti`	`Reasonably certain it can't be done without a turret`
`04:39.38`	`Agouti`	`and you are assuming there is someone on the forum who actually knows`
`04:39.57`	`Agouti`	`however time shall tell`
`04:41.10`	`hawker`	`i still maintain it is more productive than posting frowney faces in the irc`
`04:41.37`	`hawker`	`is anyone here versed in the finer points of WoW model importation and use?`
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`04:45.03`	`Frostwind`	`my project isn't WoW related`
`04:48.02`	`hawker`	`no, that was for my project :D`
`04:50.17`	`Agouti`	`Frostwind, what does it matter if it is related to WoW or not?`
`04:50.33`	`Agouti`	`Art is Art and Models are Models`
`04:50.38`	`Agouti`	`use what you have access to`
`04:51.08`	`Frostwind`	`my map isn't WoW so WoW won't look right`
`04:52.31`	`Agouti`	`You do realize that WoW incompasses a wide range of models and themes`
`04:52.33`	`Agouti`	`don't you?`
`04:52.40`	`Agouti`	`everything from classic fantasy to steam punk`
`04:55.39`	`Frostwind`	`but they won't fit my map`
`04:56.55`	`Agouti`	`Sometimes my dear you have to make compromises - by the sounds of it at the moment you won't have a map`
`05:01.02`	`Agouti`	`Question: For a search effect cast by a behaviour, why does the filter Exclude: Self not work?`
`05:01.14`	`Frostwind`	`atm, I'm only building the engine`
`05:02.30`	`Currydevil`	`no idea agouti`
`05:03.53`	`Agouti`	`Oh, I think the unit that cast the behaviour on the unit is still considered the caster of the effects from that behaviour`
`05:03.58`	`Agouti`	`and hence is Self`
`05:04.24`	`Agouti`	`yup, just tested`
`05:04.28`	`Agouti`	`that is a tad annoying`
`05:04.28`	`Currydevil`	`that could be, so the unit that is getting the behavior is not the caster, and not the self either.`
`05:04.31`	`Ashamed_`	`frost you see very picky`
`05:04.34`	`Currydevil`	`annoying indeed.`
`05:04.38`	`Ashamed_`	`if this was me i would just get my map done :)`
`05:04.53`	`Agouti`	`for this purpose markers were invented`
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`05:06.44`	`Agouti`	`or actually, I can just use Exclude: (apply behaviour effect):Target`
`05:06.50`	`Frostwind`	`Ashamed: atm, models and art don't matter, just the engine for the map, sadly this animation problem is part of it`
`05:08.44`	`Vailreth`	`ok i think i have the map fixed so im loging back in to test`
`05:08.48`	`Ashamed_`	`you can make your own`
`05:08.51`	`Ashamed_`	`GET`
`05:08.52`	`Ashamed_`	`ON`
`05:08.53`	`Ashamed_`	`NOW`
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`05:14.12`	`Frostwind`	`I'm not making any models`
`05:16.04`	`Ashamed_`	`then stop bitchen`
`05:17.30`	`Vailreth`	`if you are not willing to work within the confines of the tools we are provided then go use other tools`
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`05:20.38`	`Frostwind`	`i said that all I'm working on is the engine atm. later I'll worry about the models and art and stuff.`
`05:20.39`	`hawker`	`so basically, you want a complex problem solved, but are unwilling to do anything more than post frowney faces in the mapster irc?`
`05:20.41`	`hawker`	`Â¯\_(ã)_/Â¯`
`05:21.22`	`Frostwind`	`no one is willing to help`
`05:21.24`	`Vailreth`	`the sc2 engine dosent support the kind of animation blending you are looking for ...deal`
`05:21.28`	`Frostwind`	`I've tried to get help`
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`05:23.29`	`hawker`	`you realize that only a portion number of the total mapster base is regularly active on the irc?`
`05:23.41`	`hawker`	`not a very productive MO`
`05:23.42`	`hawker`	`anyway`
`05:23.45`	`hawker`	`thread is there lul`
`05:23.48`	`hawker`	`so hopefullyu`
`05:23.52`	`hawker`	`i'll be vindicated`
`05:25.14`	`Frostwind`	`no one is gonna bother`
`05:25.23`	`Vailreth`	`i hope no one does`
`05:26.59`	`Vailreth`	`the best you can hope for with regards to what you want Frost is that you can make models with animated legs only walking and animated arms only attacking and bleend those together some how in the actors`
`05:28.08`	`Frostwind`	`that doesn't work. I had someone try that already`
`05:28.34`	`Frostwind`	`the animation was always messed up`
`05:28.59`	`Currydevil`	`so, if there was a wow model out there that already had the particular animation combo you are looking for, couldn't you just import that model with the desired animations and then bloody replace the model with another one non wow?`
`05:29.39`	`Currydevil`	`maybe that won't work i suppose..`
`05:29.42`	`Currydevil`	`but it was a thought.`
`05:29.43`	`Frostwind`	`Currydevil: WoW models have separate animations for attack and running. the game combines them when needed`
`05:31.47`	`RndmObjcts`	`incase anyone can help http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/23413-dialog-timer-that-counts-up/#p1 later folks!`
`05:39.16`	`hawker`	`i fucking hate putting up fences in editor -___-`
`05:39.24`	`hawker`	`fence toool pl0x`
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`06:05.22`	`Currydevil`	`booo, my z offset projectile don't work`
`06:06.26`	`hawker`	`:(`
`06:06.49`	`hawker`	`are name changes possible on mapster?`
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`06:07.32`	`Currydevil`	`oh well i can scrap that idea, didn't think i would be able to make the ability anyways`
`06:07.36`	`mapstermap`	`hello o.o`
`06:09.01`	`mapstermap`	`any1 here?`
`06:09.10`	`hawker`	`i am teh here`
`06:09.11`	`Currydevil`	`depends on who's asking`
`06:09.21`	`mapstermap`	`cool`
`06:09.43`	`mapsterman`	`Â¯\_(ã)_/Â¯`
`06:10.17`	`Currydevil`	`hmm, no I could make the ability afterall.. the deal would be the animation of it.`
`06:10.19`	`mapsterman`	`is agouti there?`
`06:10.26`	`Currydevil`	`was earlier.`
`06:10.37`	`mapsterman`	`ah`
`06:10.47`	`mapsterman`	`he always knows to answer my problems :s`
`06:10.51`	`Currydevil`	`lol`
`06:11.10`	`mapsterman`	`maybe you would`
`06:11.19`	`Currydevil`	`I could ... try? =P`
`06:11.47`	`mapsterman`	`was wondering what the decelaration does in the apply camera funciton`
`06:12.05`	`Currydevil`	`no idea =\| I haven't touched cameras at all`
`06:12.10`	`mapsterman`	`:3`
`06:15.08`	`hawker`	`2 AM RUN TIME`
`06:15.12`	`hawker`	`IT'S AWWWWWWWWWWWRIGHT`
`06:21.26`	`Currydevil`	`i need more abilities.`
`06:21.29`	`Currydevil`	`Hmmmmm`
`06:21.53`	`Agouti`	`I am off and on mapsterman`
`06:21.57`	`Agouti`	`in a game`
`06:22.05`	`mapsterman`	`ah cool`
`06:22.06`	`Agouti`	`I can answer if it's a quick question`
`06:22.19`	`mapsterman`	`well I already asked Â¯\_(ã)_/Â¯`
`06:22.28`	`mapsterman`	`whats decelaration`
`06:22.31`	`mapsterman`	`in aply camera`
`06:22.31`	`Currydevil`	`what is deceleration in apply camera function :;)`
`06:22.46`	`Currydevil`	`alien emote.`
`06:22.50`	`mapsterman`	`I want to change acceleration :s`
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`08:04.53`	`Agouti`	`mapsterman, it's the speed at which the camera decellerates when told to pan to somewhere I'm guessing`
`08:05.13`	`mapsterman`	`1 sec 1v1ing NA #50`
`08:11.06`	`Agouti`	`By the way, if anybody doesn't already know about it: you can vastly speed up the data editor by closing the object explorer under View`
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`08:12.02`	`FockeWulf`	`Sigh, anyone else noticing that this patch won't fix a damned thing?`
`08:12.14`	`Agouti`	`which patch?`
`08:12.21`	`FockeWulf`	`They are doing region linking next`
`08:12.31`	`FockeWulf`	`which tells me they are combining servers to save money`
`08:12.36`	`Agouti`	`and for some reason that doesn't surprise me in the least`
`08:12.53`	`Agouti`	`all the close regions I'm guessing`
`08:12.55`	`Agouti`	`russ/eu`
`08:13.03`	`Agouti`	`kor/kpn`
`08:13.06`	`Agouti`	`jpn`
`08:13.07`	`Agouti`	`or w/e`
`08:13.08`	`FockeWulf`	`What we all need to do is boycot all Blizzard products, especially HotS`
`08:13.15`	`Agouti`	`um`
`08:13.24`	`Agouti`	`I wouldn't say that was needed`
`08:13.46`	`Agouti`	`I think combining regions is a reasonable step`
`08:13.47`	`FockeWulf`	`Hey man the only way shit gets fixed in that corporate structure is if accounting starts screaming`
`08:14.08`	`Agouti`	`you are obviously not familiar with how blizzard is set up`
`08:14.14`	`FockeWulf`	`If they look at how much HotS sells vs WoL they might do something`
`08:14.34`	`FockeWulf`	`Depends, how much of it is controlled by activision?`
`08:14.41`	`Agouti`	`very little`
`08:14.50`	`Agouti`	`blizzard runs pretty much autonomously`
`08:14.52`	`FockeWulf`	`And no, region linking does not surprise me at all, in fact thats how bnet 1.0 was`
`08:15.16`	`FockeWulf`	`what needs to happen though is blizzard needs to start losing money for being stupid`
`08:15.27`	`Agouti`	`all that will do is hasten D3`
`08:15.40`	`Agouti`	`honestly I think you are over-reacting a bit`
`08:15.48`	`FockeWulf`	`Are you on EU or NA?`
`08:16.02`	`Agouti`	`I am actually australian`
`08:16.07`	`Agouti`	`and have to play on NA`
`08:16.10`	`Agouti`	`with 200ms ping`
`08:16.22`	`Agouti`	`because there are not australian servers`
`08:16.24`	`Agouti`	`no*`
`08:16.45`	`FockeWulf`	`there used to be but ya... well then im sure you know how badly new custom maps are getting squished over here`
`08:16.49`	`Agouti`	`I've also been on the sharp end of most of the unfixed bugs out there`
`08:16.55`	`Agouti`	`and many that nobody else has reported`
`08:16.59`	`FockeWulf`	`same`
`08:17.08`	`Agouti`	`there were /never/ australian servers`
`08:17.17`	`Agouti`	`there were, and still are, servers in singapore`
`08:17.20`	`Agouti`	`that is not the same`
`08:17.52`	`FockeWulf`	`ah ok cause I had an NZ friend who played and he said somethign about AUS servers`
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`08:18.09`	`Agouti`	`your NZ friend would get better ping to NA then SEA`
`08:18.19`	`Agouti`	`for a kiwi`
`08:18.32`	`FockeWulf`	`hmm`
`08:18.38`	`FockeWulf`	`thats not the way he described it`
`08:18.40`	`FockeWulf`	`oh well`
`08:18.48`	`Agouti`	`the SEA pipe goes NZ to Sydney, then down around the southern coast, then all the way up the west coast, then up to singapore`
`08:19.03`	`Agouti`	`and that is assuming that his ISP has rented bandwidth on the aus/sing pipe`
`08:19.10`	`Agouti`	`which is by no means a guarentee`
`08:19.17`	`Agouti`	`given that it is a very expensive pipe`
`08:19.41`	`FockeWulf`	`now why am i overracting that the version of SC i decide to make maps in and spend a lot of time making some ones that have a very loyal following from those who actually know it exists.`
`08:19.51`	`FockeWulf`	`and most people don't know it exists?`
`08:20.00`	`FockeWulf`	`and the reason is cause of blizzard stupidity`
`08:20.05`	`Agouti`	`I'm confused`
`08:20.12`	`FockeWulf`	`And they have had over a year to fix it...`
`08:20.14`	`Agouti`	`I didn't understand that I'm sorry`
`08:20.50`	`FockeWulf`	`it's w/e`
`08:21.01`	`FockeWulf`	`but they have said that they want sc2 to have a 10 year run`
`08:21.04`	`hawker`	`watermelon`
`08:21.07`	`hawker`	`om nom nom nom`
`08:21.16`	`FockeWulf`	`and they won't fix a major thing like this epic fail popularity system`
`08:21.17`	`Agouti`	`the new pop system makes it very easy for maps to have a small popular following`
`08:21.25`	`Agouti`	`I don't see what is so wrong with it`
`08:21.28`	`FockeWulf`	`what?`
`08:21.33`	`FockeWulf`	`dude are you stupid?`
`08:21.44`	`Agouti`	`not last I checked`
`08:21.55`	`FockeWulf`	`you can't even get a fucking lobby without having a group of friends`
`08:21.55`	`Agouti`	`favourite a map + view favourites`
`08:22.02`	`FockeWulf`	`yet somehow it still manages 40 hours`
`08:22.08`	`FockeWulf`	`ya not without waiting for 3 hours`
`08:22.14`	`FockeWulf`	`ppl are not gonna do that`
`08:22.20`	`FockeWulf`	`dude, have you even published a map yet?`
`08:22.22`	`Agouti`	`it is hardly blizzards fault if that is your influx of players`
`08:22.25`	`Agouti`	`yes I have`
`08:22.30`	`FockeWulf`	`And where is it?`
`08:22.33`	`Agouti`	`I have had a map published for 8 months`
`08:22.37`	`Agouti`	`top of page 2`
`08:22.38`	`Agouti`	`in NA`
`08:22.41`	`Agouti`	`#3 in SEA`
`08:22.44`	`FockeWulf`	`ah ok thats why`
`08:22.48`	`FockeWulf`	`your biased`
`08:22.54`	`Agouti`	`not really`
`08:23.00`	`FockeWulf`	`ya you are`
`08:23.03`	`Agouti`	`I've had very unpopular testing versions`
`08:23.09`	`Agouti`	`which people have managed to play fine`
`08:23.13`	`Agouti`	`they have been page a billion`
`08:23.20`	`Agouti`	`but I create from my published list`
`08:23.23`	`Agouti`	`they favourite`
`08:23.27`	`Agouti`	`and it is easy for them to play`
`08:23.35`	`Agouti`	`if there are only 5 people who want to play it`
`08:23.43`	`Agouti`	`blizzard cannot magically invent people`
`08:23.51`	`Agouti`	`who want to hop in the lobby`
`08:23.58`	`FockeWulf`	`yup, and let me ask this: how do you get ppl to join your map's lobbies when they have to wait an hour?`
`08:24.02`	`FockeWulf`	`and what kind of map is it?`
`08:24.03`	`FockeWulf`	`btw?`
`08:24.04`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Griffenator (~IceChat7@2.98.202.179)`
`08:24.23`	`Agouti`	`it's a combo hero/builder game`
`08:24.28`	`Agouti`	`again`
`08:24.32`	`FockeWulf`	`OH`
`08:24.34`	`FockeWulf`	`thats why`
`08:24.37`	`FockeWulf`	`ok ya mines a diplomacy`
`08:24.43`	`FockeWulf`	`its rated the best diplomacy on battle.net btw`
`08:24.45`	`Agouti`	`if it takes an hour for there to be 6 people ready to play it`
`08:24.47`	`FockeWulf`	`but its still a diplomacy`
`08:24.50`	`Agouti`	`listen`
`08:24.52`	`Agouti`	`if it takes`
`08:24.53`	`Agouti`	`1 hour`
`08:24.58`	`Agouti`	`for 6 people who want to play the map`
`08:25.00`	`Agouti`	`to get ready`
`08:25.06`	`Agouti`	`how is that blizzards fault?`
`08:25.28`	`Agouti`	`that is pure and simple the result of a small player base`
`08:25.52`	`Agouti`	`no game system in the world can make a lobby fill faster if there just isn't the players wanting to play it`
`08:25.54`	`FockeWulf`	`because people who learned about it early gave up because no one else knew about it, and now the new people who learned about area also giving up cause they can't get enough people`
`08:26.01`	`Agouti`	`again`
`08:26.02`	`FockeWulf`	`Agouti`
`08:26.11`	`Agouti`	`no system in the world could do anything about that`
`08:26.12`	`FockeWulf`	`you have no clue what your talkign about`
`08:26.16`	`FockeWulf`	`yes it could`
`08:26.19`	`Agouti`	`How.`
`08:26.20`	`FockeWulf`	`the old bnet system`
`08:26.21`	`Agouti`	`Name it.`
`08:26.21`	`FockeWulf`	`did just fine`
`08:26.34`	`Agouti`	`you cannot magically invent people who want to play`
`08:26.41`	`Agouti`	`Answer this`
`08:26.45`	`Agouti`	`in the entire world`
`08:26.47`	`Agouti`	`there are 4 people`
`08:26.50`	`FockeWulf`	`Battle.net 1.0 WAS the solution to the problem`
`08:26.51`	`Agouti`	`who want to play your map`
`08:26.52`	`Agouti`	`no more`
`08:26.54`	`Agouti`	`listen`
`08:26.55`	`Agouti`	`no more`
`08:26.58`	`Agouti`	`4 people`
`08:27.04`	`Agouti`	`they all hop in a lobby`
`08:27.06`	`FockeWulf`	`umm lol, there are more`
`08:27.09`	`Agouti`	`there are no more people who want to play`
`08:27.15`	`Agouti`	`how is any system going to fix that?`
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`08:27.18`	`FockeWulf`	`unfortunatly they will only wait about 30 secs and most of never in the lobby at the same time`
`08:27.20`	`tordy`	`yo`
`08:27.30`	`Agouti`	`hallo tordy`
`08:27.37`	`FockeWulf`	`simple, it will be at the top of the list, if people feel like playing it, they will play it`
`08:27.37`	`tordy`	`a blizz employee played my custom map`
`08:27.42`	`tordy`	`i feel so honored`
`08:27.46`	`Agouti`	`why will it be the top of the list`
`08:27.51`	`tordy`	`and you won't believe which blizz employee it is`
`08:28.01`	`tordy`	`it is like the least likely blizz employee you'd think`
`08:28.02`	`hawker`	`daveeeeeeeey kim?`
`08:28.03`	`Agouti`	`I only care if white ra played it`
`08:28.06`	`tordy`	`YES`
`08:28.10`	`hawker`	`ofc davey`
`08:28.11`	`tordy`	`David Kim`
`08:28.12`	`FockeWulf`	`because it will be the old battle.net 1.0 and it will be in A list everyone can simple scroll through to find what they want`
`08:28.18`	`tordy`	`crazy`
`08:28.18`	`hawker`	`davey is a massive troll`
`08:28.22`	`tordy`	`i know`
`08:28.33`	`Agouti`	`FockeWulf you are just another failed developer looking for someone to blame for an unpopular map`
`08:28.45`	`FockeWulf`	`Ok Agouti`
`08:28.46`	`Agouti`	`I had a grand total of 10 people who played mine for some months`
`08:28.48`	`FockeWulf`	`get on bnet`
`08:28.50`	`Agouti`	`we organized it via forums`
`08:28.52`	`FockeWulf`	`ill prove your sorry ass wrong so hard`
`08:28.53`	`Agouti`	`listen`
`08:28.57`	`Agouti`	`we organized times`
`08:29.01`	`Agouti`	`via a forum`
`08:29.05`	`Agouti`	`so we would all hop on`
`08:29.07`	`Agouti`	`and play some games`
`08:29.10`	`Agouti`	`this was`
`08:29.13`	`FockeWulf`	`lol, i should not be punished for a failed system`
`08:29.13`	`tordy`	`test`
`08:29.14`	`Agouti`	`before the new system`
`08:29.19`	`Agouti`	`so we had to scroll down to page 8`
`08:29.21`	`Agouti`	`to find the map`
`08:29.24`	`FockeWulf`	`you just log on right now Agouti before you run your mouth anymore`
`08:29.26`	`FockeWulf`	`and you see my map`
`08:29.31`	`FockeWulf`	`then you will see your wrong`
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`08:29.39`	`Agouti`	`it is not popular`
`08:29.43`	`Agouti`	`because it is not popular`
`08:29.51`	`Agouti`	`I have no interest in diplomacy maps`
`08:29.51`	`FockeWulf`	`you can't say squat shit about what you haven't seen man`
`08:30.04`	`Agouti`	`if it is better then the player base it has`
`08:30.09`	`Agouti`	`pull your finger out of your ass`
`08:30.14`	`Agouti`	`and put a website together`
`08:30.18`	`Agouti`	`get a forum running`
`08:30.24`	`Agouti`	`organize times for people to hop on to play`
`08:30.33`	`Agouti`	`stop having a great fucking cry and do something about it`
`08:30.54`	`hawker`	`people had a semi-legitimate argument until the search bar was implement`
`08:30.56`	`FockeWulf`	`LOL You want me to buy a goddamned domain name for this shit? You are soo sold.`
`08:31.01`	`Agouti`	`$12`
`08:31.10`	`hawker`	`now it is usually the fault of the mapper in some form or another`
`08:31.13`	`Agouti`	`or use a free site`
`08:31.17`	`Agouti`	`there are plenty around`
`08:31.21`	`FockeWulf`	`I am not spending RL money for something i have already blown 60 bucks for`
`08:31.22`	`hawker`	`or just make your map good another to get featured on mapster front page`
`08:31.27`	`hawker`	`free forums as easy to find`
`08:31.34`	`Agouti`	`you are just content to wallow in your mediocrity and blame whoever you want for your failings`
`08:31.38`	`FockeWulf`	`I can get it featured, I just have to make a video`
`08:31.41`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`08:31.47`	`FockeWulf`	`Agouti you have yet to see it`
`08:31.55`	`Agouti`	`I don't care how good it is`
`08:32.03`	`Agouti`	`if it is not popular`
`08:32.06`	`Agouti`	`there is only you to blame`
`08:32.08`	`FockeWulf`	`The somethine is wrong`
`08:32.32`	`Agouti`	`no, just because you aren't treated specially or as more important than anyone else does not mean something is wrong`
`08:32.39`	`FockeWulf`	`Ya im to blame cause I made a good map that so many people can't get in a game in`
`08:32.46`	`Agouti`	`merely that you are too lazy to take the extra steps to get it running`
`08:32.53`	`Agouti`	`your problem is just 1 thing`
`08:32.54`	`Agouti`	`just 1`
`08:32.56`	`Agouti`	`lack of players`
`08:32.58`	`Agouti`	`that is all`
`08:33.03`	`FockeWulf`	`No Agouti.. at least mine has a loyal follwing, most get hosed by this system.`
`08:33.10`	`Agouti`	`if I had your map favourited`
`08:33.14`	`Agouti`	`I could find it easily`
`08:33.18`	`Agouti`	`I could host a game easily`
`08:33.23`	`Agouti`	`others who also wanted to play`
`08:33.28`	`Agouti`	`could easily find the same lobby`
`08:33.33`	`Agouti`	`there is nothing wrong with the system`
`08:33.34`	`FockeWulf`	`nope`
`08:33.38`	`Agouti`	`yes.`
`08:33.55`	`FockeWulf`	`Dear god how to explain the difference between theory and reality to someone...`
`08:34.07`	`Agouti`	`If you can name 1 thing, just one thing, that does not involve your map being treated different to anyone elses`
`08:34.09`	`Agouti`	`just 1`
`08:34.17`	`Agouti`	`that will improve the system`
`08:34.22`	`Agouti`	`without other downsides`
`08:34.25`	`Agouti`	`I will be impressed.`
`08:34.58`	`Agouti`	`Like I said I got on with a map which was page 8, before the search bar, before the favourite system`
`08:35.09`	`Agouti`	`with a grand total of 8 or 10 players who even knew it existed`
`08:35.16`	`FockeWulf`	`Ok a full amphibious system including 7 classes of naval warships that actually look like naval warships (Ie stuff like battleships with tripple turrets). ?`
`08:35.22`	`Agouti`	`by showing getting off my butt and organizing it`
`08:35.28`	`Agouti`	`so?`
`08:35.34`	`FockeWulf`	`In fact I'm the only guy on bnet with an amphibious system.`
`08:35.37`	`Agouti`	`so?`
`08:35.40`	`Agouti`	`<Agouti> If you can name 1 thing, just one thing, that does not involve your map being treated different to anyone elses`
`08:35.40`	`Agouti`	`<Agouti> just 1`
`08:35.40`	`Agouti`	`<Agouti> that will improve the system`
`08:35.40`	`Agouti`	`<Agouti> without other downsides`
`08:35.42`	`Agouti`	`<Agouti> I will be impressed.`
`08:35.46`	`Agouti`	`name the problem with the system`
`08:35.48`	`Agouti`	`without saying`
`08:35.57`	`Agouti`	`"cos my map isn't popular waaah waaah waaaah"`
`08:36.10`	`tordy`	`nah the system is not great`
`08:36.13`	`tordy`	`but it's a step`
`08:36.15`	`tordy`	`baby step`
`08:36.18`	`tordy`	`little frog step`
`08:36.19`	`FockeWulf`	`Hmm in a "popularity system" thats hard`
`08:36.20`	`FockeWulf`	`lets see`
`08:36.22`	`FockeWulf`	`ok ive got it`
`08:36.22`	`Agouti`	`it's fuckloads better than it was`
`08:36.23`	`tordy`	`little baceterial step`
`08:36.28`	`Agouti`	`and we coped before it was improved`
`08:36.30`	`tordy`	`little nanometer step`
`08:36.33`	`FockeWulf`	`people are lazy and won't even look for a map that is on page 7.`
`08:36.41`	`tordy`	`bookmarks dont help too much`
`08:36.41`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Nash\|327 (~nn@81-234-225-23-no35.tbcn.telia.com)`
`08:36.47`	`FockeWulf`	`They want to play it, they won't look for it because they are lazy.`
`08:36.50`	`tordy`	`you'll always be playing with the same players`
`08:36.54`	`Agouti`	`that is people`
`08:36.58`	`Agouti`	`I did it`
`08:36.59`	`tordy`	`if it's an unpopular map`
`08:37.02`	`Agouti`	`I had a forum`
`08:37.03`	`Agouti`	`I had`
`08:37.05`	`Agouti`	`8 players`
`08:37.09`	`Agouti`	`for a 12 player map`
`08:37.18`	`tordy`	`and they likely wont be on as the same time as you all the time`
`08:37.22`	`Agouti`	`we organized times`
`08:37.26`	`Agouti`	`across timezones`
`08:37.31`	`Agouti`	`for everyone to hop on`
`08:37.31`	`tordy`	`yea you need organization in the beginning`
`08:37.38`	`Agouti`	`I mean for fucks sakes you even have channels now`
`08:37.41`	`FockeWulf`	`Yes Agouti, and if you made a map back in WC3 or SC1 you would know that to do that is bullshit cause all you had to do was host a game and BAM yo would get players.`
`08:37.42`	`Agouti`	`would of fuckign KILLED for that`
`08:37.49`	`FockeWulf`	`Are you new to Blizzard or something?`
`08:37.50`	`Agouti`	`just a channel to organize games`
`08:37.56`	`Agouti`	`No, no I am not.`
`08:38.11`	`FockeWulf`	`did you even play WC3?`
`08:38.18`	`Agouti`	`Yes.`
`08:38.30`	`Agouti`	`You know how popular WC3 maps ran?`
`08:38.32`	`Agouti`	`host bots.`
`08:38.37`	`FockeWulf`	`did you even see the large amount of very diverse custom maps, including some that were complex and fun but rarely played?`
`08:38.40`	`FockeWulf`	`Agouti`
`08:38.46`	`FockeWulf`	`Did you play wc3 BEFORE the last 4 years?`
`08:38.46`	`Agouti`	`far less then are in SC2 atm`
`08:38.50`	`Agouti`	`Yes.`
`08:38.59`	`FockeWulf`	`then you would know your statement was not true.`
`08:39.04`	`Agouti`	`WC3 had far less players than SC2`
`08:39.08`	`Agouti`	`far, far less.`
`08:39.22`	`FockeWulf`	`Yup and even then a large range of maps could still reach their audiences`
`08:39.23`	`Agouti`	`I cannot imagine that little scroll box working for all the sc2 games which get hosted`
`08:39.28`	`Agouti`	`large?`
`08:39.40`	`Nash\|327`	`WHEN I WAS A KID WE DIDN'T HAVE COMPUTERS OR INTERNETS`
`08:39.40`	`FockeWulf`	`Know of a map called phase killer?`
`08:39.44`	`Agouti`	`not by sc2 standards`
`08:39.47`	`Agouti`	`still waiting`
`08:39.48`	`Agouti`	`still`
`08:39.50`	`Nash\|327`	`YOU'RE ALL LUCKY`
`08:39.51`	`Agouti`	`for your magical fix`
`08:39.54`	`hawker`	`o herro nash`
`08:39.59`	`Agouti`	`comon`
`08:40.00`	`FockeWulf`	`major fix?`
`08:40.01`	`Agouti`	`mr genius`
`08:40.05`	`Agouti`	`go for it`
`08:40.05`	`Nash\|327`	`hawkerface`
`08:40.09`	`FockeWulf`	`ok emulate Battle.net 1.0`
`08:40.13`	`Agouti`	`nope`
`08:40.15`	`Agouti`	`won't work`
`08:40.21`	`Agouti`	`too many games get created`
`08:40.22`	`hawker`	`you realize the first page of hosted games`
`08:40.24`	`hawker`	`would be`
`08:40.30`	`hawker`	`NEXUS WARS`
`08:40.31`	`hawker`	`NEXUS WARSNEXUS WARS`
`08:40.32`	`hawker`	`NEXUS WARS`
`08:40.36`	`hawker`	`ad infinitum`
`08:40.41`	`Agouti`	`there are hundreds of games of those maps hosted every minute`
`08:40.52`	`Nash\|327`	`just add a filter to hide maps with no active lobbies`
`08:40.58`	`FockeWulf`	`nope, thats also a simple fix, randomization, also you can limited the hosted lobbies to one lobby per map type.`
`08:41.11`	`Agouti`	`so randomization huh`
`08:41.16`	`FockeWulf`	`which is what they did`
`08:41.17`	`FockeWulf`	`in the other one`
`08:41.21`	`Agouti`	`so when there are lobies for over 200 different maps runnign at once`
`08:41.23`	`FockeWulf`	`cause not everyone hosts the same map at the same time`
`08:41.26`	`Agouti`	`yours will still get no play time`
`08:41.28`	`Agouti`	`fail again`
`08:41.39`	`Agouti`	`lets just face it`
`08:41.44`	`FockeWulf`	`LOL man you didn't play WC3 all that often, ok let me explain to you how that worked`
`08:41.50`	`Agouti`	`you are pissed because your map which you love so much has such a small following`
`08:41.56`	`FockeWulf`	`only a fraction of the maps got shown to anyone in the "list"`
`08:41.56`	`Agouti`	`and you couldn't be bothered doing anything about it`
`08:42.00`	`Agouti`	`so you are just here whining away`
`08:42.12`	`Agouti`	`I have been in your exact position`
`08:42.14`	`Agouti`	`exept`
`08:42.17`	`Agouti`	`I did something about it`
`08:42.18`	`FockeWulf`	`that fraction would then get swapped out every time someone "refreshed" the list.`
`08:42.20`	`Agouti`	`you couldn't be fucked`
`08:42.23`	`Agouti`	`and that is your problem`
`08:42.38`	`Agouti`	`and I had it a hell of a lot tougher than you have it`
`08:42.42`	`Agouti`	`so man the fuck up already`
`08:42.46`	`Agouti`	`and stop being such a child`
`08:43.13`	`FockeWulf`	`Agouti, you are simply a dumbass pure and simple. I cannot help someone who somehow believes that a system works because people to stuff outside the system to make it work.`
`08:43.26`	`Nash\|327`	`internet tough guy`
`08:44.03`	`Agouti`	`fockewulf is just another baby crying because his map isn't popular`
`08:44.06`	`FockeWulf`	`Making a map and having it be played frequently should never (and in nearly all cases has never) cost any money on ANY game`
`08:44.10`	`Agouti`	`just another rodrig`
`08:45.21`	`FockeWulf`	`No, you are just an ignorant person who made a completely generic and un-innovative map that happens to be one of those that succeeded.`
`08:45.28`	`hawker`	`I'm breathing manually`
`08:45.33`	`Agouti`	`he says without knowing a thing about it`
`08:45.42`	`Agouti`	`I am also blinking manually`
`08:45.45`	`hawker`	`HAXORS ON STERO1DS`
`08:45.46`	`Agouti`	`I can feel my hair`
`08:45.53`	`Agouti`	`and clothes on my body`
`08:45.55`	`FockeWulf`	`Ok, simple questions, does it use a 3rd person or 1st persion movement system?`
`08:46.03`	`Agouti`	`OH NOES`
`08:46.08`	`Agouti`	`IT HAS TO USE FIRST PERSON?`
`08:46.13`	`Agouti`	`O god I never realized`
`08:46.20`	`FockeWulf`	`yup or theres 10 mroe like it`
`08:46.22`	`Nash\|327`	`Response to anyone who criticizes popularity system: lol u mad cuz ur map sux`
`08:46.30`	`Nash\|327`	`Intelligent debate? Naw.`
`08:46.32`	`FockeWulf`	`play it`
`08:46.34`	`Agouti`	`I never said his map sucked.`
`08:46.35`	`FockeWulf`	`dare ya`
`08:46.36`	`Agouti`	`I said`
`08:46.40`	`Agouti`	`I couldn't care how good it is`
`08:46.45`	`Agouti`	`you can have it played`
`08:46.47`	`FockeWulf`	`umm Agouti you anything BUT said it sucked`
`08:46.49`	`Agouti`	`if you have 10 players`
`08:46.54`	`Agouti`	`and some organization`
`08:47.09`	`Agouti`	`my map sucked fucking balls when it was first getting played`
`08:47.12`	`Agouti`	`buggy as anything`
`08:47.15`	`Agouti`	`it was horrid`
`08:47.16`	`FockeWulf`	`So did mine`
`08:47.18`	`FockeWulf`	`now its better`
`08:47.21`	`Agouti`	`but I had somethign called "friends"`
`08:47.23`	`FockeWulf`	`way better in fact`
`08:47.27`	`Agouti`	`and "organization"`
`08:47.30`	`FockeWulf`	`my friends list is maxed out...`
`08:47.31`	`Agouti`	`and I`
`08:47.34`	`Agouti`	`"organized"`
`08:47.34`	`Agouti`	`games`
`08:47.41`	`FockeWulf`	`Yup, I don't have that kind of time.`
`08:47.43`	`Agouti`	`people told their friends`
`08:47.47`	`Agouti`	`well that is your problem`
`08:47.52`	`Agouti`	`bad luck sonny`
`08:48.00`	`FockeWulf`	`How is not having time supposed to be my problem?`
`08:48.00`	`Agouti`	`sink back into your pool of mediocrity`
`08:48.02`	`Griffenator`	`Agouti, surely you're saying that the popularity system is complete shit, then?`
`08:48.08`	`Agouti`	`it was yes`
`08:48.09`	`Agouti`	`now?`
`08:48.10`	`Agouti`	`no`
`08:48.14`	`Agouti`	`there is nothing better`
`08:48.18`	`Agouti`	`that anyone has come up with`
`08:48.21`	`Griffenator`	`You just said it's complete shit`
`08:48.28`	`Agouti`	`did I?`
`08:48.45`	`Griffenator`	`You basically said it was disconnected from map quality.`
`08:48.54`	`Nash\|327`	`It's so great! Unless you want to play anything beyond page 1.`
`08:49.26`	`FockeWulf`	`Wait wait so I am supposed to be punished for spending 60 dollars and not having time to play games 24/7.. not to mention that I play multiple games?`
`08:49.29`	`*** join/#sc2mapster harl (harl@dslb-088-077-214-137.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`08:49.37`	`FockeWulf`	`In what time I have?`
`08:49.42`	`FockeWulf`	`how is that even close to real?`
`08:49.42`	`Griffenator`	`Yes.`
`08:49.44`	`harl`	`hey`
`08:49.55`	`Griffenator`	`Welcome to Activision-Blizzard, FockeWulf.`
`08:50.09`	`Agouti`	`Tell me please`
`08:50.10`	`hawker`	`Hey`
`08:50.11`	`Agouti`	`how`
`08:50.14`	`FockeWulf`	`Griff I've known for some time, i started making maps the day after the beta editor came out.`
`08:50.15`	`hawker`	`Leave Activision alone`
`08:50.17`	`Agouti`	`you can automatically rate a mpa`
`08:50.18`	`Agouti`	`map`
`08:50.21`	`hawker`	`Without acti`
`08:50.25`	`Agouti`	`in a setting such as this`
`08:50.27`	`Griffenator`	`leave activision alone...?`
`08:50.31`	`FockeWulf`	`I just think this upstart needs an attitude adjustment`
`08:50.31`	`Agouti`	`without using it's popularity`
`08:50.32`	`Agouti`	`please`
`08:50.32`	`hawker`	`I wouldn't get 10 derivative guitar hero games per year`
`08:50.39`	`Griffenator`	`The old activision was actually pretty decent, I seem to recall.`
`08:50.43`	`Agouti`	`activision is nothing special`
`08:50.53`	`Agouti`	`when they were a little game maker they cared`
`08:51.00`	`Agouti`	`these days just another EA`
`08:51.00`	`Griffenator`	`New Activision is special in being retarded moneygrabbers.`
`08:51.07`	`Agouti`	`however that has nothing to do with anything`
`08:51.14`	`Agouti`	`since Blizzard runs autonomously`
`08:51.14`	`FockeWulf`	`Once upon a time EA was also good I heard... Heard it around a campfire though.`
`08:51.16`	`Griffenator`	`Although Ubisoft is worse for DRM`
`08:51.26`	`Griffenator`	`Lol, bullshit Blizzard runs autonomously`
`08:51.36`	`Griffenator`	`ALthough BLizzard died a while back when all their good people left`
`08:51.43`	`FockeWulf`	`Yup`
`08:51.53`	`FockeWulf`	`they got rid of the guys who knew how to make games`
`08:51.57`	`Griffenator`	`Hence SC2 being shit.`
`08:51.58`	`FockeWulf`	`they started costing too much`
`08:52.02`	`Griffenator`	`WC3 being shit too`
`08:52.26`	`FockeWulf`	`WC3 was good because it had an expanded map editor.. not cause of melee.`
`08:52.38`	`Griffenator`	`Indeed.`
`08:52.46`	`FockeWulf`	`It also maintained the successful battle.net 1.0`
`08:52.47`	`Nash\|327`	`I only played Campaign.`
`08:53.00`	`Griffenator`	`WoW was not really designed`
`08:53.08`	`hawker`	`hmm`
`08:53.09`	`Griffenator`	`What with it being the same as stuff before it`
`08:53.13`	`Griffenator`	`But done really, really well`
`08:53.15`	`hawker`	`not sure i can stay awake much longer -_____-`
`08:53.29`	`FockeWulf`	`they could have kept that up with SC2, just redoing the hosting system to get rid of refresh spoofing bots and delay reduction (although that did prove handy).`
`08:53.29`	`Nash\|327`	`hawker, you promised me kittunbags`
`08:53.36`	`Nash\|327`	`don't you dare sleep`
`08:53.37`	`Griffenator`	`Now they justtake ideas they like from other MMOs`
`08:53.51`	`hawker`	`:\|`
`08:54.00`	`hawker`	`it's 5 am and i just ran for and hour :(`
`08:54.05`	`hawker`	`but ok`
`08:54.05`	`FockeWulf`	`People have been tellikng me WoW was a ripe of about 2 different mmos`
`08:54.06`	`hawker`	`fine`
`08:54.08`	`hawker`	`:(`
`08:54.20`	`Nash\|327`	`kittunsbags and screenshots kthx`
`08:54.35`	`FockeWulf`	`meh, there was nothign special about SC1 either... they just did the dmultiplayer system right`
`08:54.49`	`FockeWulf`	`which if you tink about it really waqs blizzard's major winning point`
`08:54.51`	`FockeWulf`	`the multiplayer`
`08:55.04`	`FockeWulf`	`and now they've shoved all that down the trash`
`08:55.40`	`FockeWulf`	`The really stupid part is they have said squat shit what they are going to do about it`
`08:55.46`	`FockeWulf`	`hence bad reputation`
`08:56.03`	`FockeWulf`	`And they have one helluva PR oppertunity on their hands if they'd just see it.`
`08:56.34`	`Nash\|327`	`Eh, all it needs really is filtering active lobbies.`
`08:57.24`	`FockeWulf`	`One way or another active lobbies is what it comes down to`
`08:57.33`	`Nash\|327`	`That way if you do start a map that's not page 1, people can see there's someone there rather than "oh, I'll go join an empty map and nobody else will show up".`
`08:58.20`	`Nash\|327`	`As it is, play the top maps until you're bored, then give up.`
`08:58.22`	`FockeWulf`	`2 schools on that though is there are those like me who say "only active lobbies" emulating the wc3 system and there are those who just want to add a filter... Judging from the last patch though "adding" a filter won't be enough.`
`08:58.36`	`FockeWulf`	`Have you played World of Tanks?`
`08:58.39`	`FockeWulf`	`by any chance?`
`08:58.39`	`hawker`	`nash, i'm finishing up another of those fenced areas in the city`
`08:58.45`	`hawker`	`sending screenshots`
`08:58.49`	`hawker`	`then sleep -____________________`
`08:58.50`	`hawker`	`soon`
`08:58.53`	`Nash\|327`	`:D!`
`08:58.58`	`hawker`	`sending sc soon`
`08:58.59`	`hawker`	`i meant`
`08:59.10`	`FockeWulf`	`Cause I am finding soo many people who bought SC2 and then quit cause of the custom map system on there.`
`08:59.37`	`FockeWulf`	`And I've got a clan of 7 people who all quit sc2 save me cause of the custom map system.`
`09:01.12`	`Nash\|327`	`active lobbies only filter that's default on`
`09:01.58`	`Nash\|327`	`if you don't want to play the maps in the list, turn it off and start your own game`
`09:02.11`	`hawker`	`moar categories would be nice`
`09:06.41`	`Nash\|327`	`more categories don't help when you end up joining empty lobbies and have to wait around for infinity hours`
`09:07.11`	`*** join/#sc2mapster harl (harl@dslb-088-077-214-137.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`09:09.20`	`hawker`	`this is true`
`09:11.39`	`hawker`	`does anyone here know what the doodad is called with the minerals on the conveyor belt?`
`09:12.01`	`hawker`	`nm found`
`09:35.25`	`hawker`	`images inc`
`09:36.29`	`hawker`	`still needs some polish`
`09:36.42`	`hawker`	`but`
`09:36.44`	`hawker`	`OMG NEED SLEEP`
`09:37.55`	`hawker`	`http://img202.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=screenshot20110713at536.png`
`09:37.57`	`hawker`	`here ya go`
`09:38.13`	`hawker`	`like i said, not perfect yet`
`09:38.32`	`FockeWulf`	`not bad`
`09:38.35`	`FockeWulf`	`what is that map?`
`09:39.59`	`hawker`	`erm`
`09:40.00`	`hawker`	`is nash's`
`09:40.03`	`hawker`	`hero survival`
`09:40.09`	`hawker`	`doing le terraining`
`09:40.14`	`hawker`	`or rather`
`09:40.15`	`hawker`	`finishing`
`09:40.17`	`hawker`	`le terraining`
`09:40.34`	`hawker`	`way too tired atm >.>`
`09:41.13`	`hawker`	`how look nash?`
`09:41.26`	`FockeWulf`	`hmm`
`09:41.37`	`FockeWulf`	`want a 3rd person movement system for it? I got one thats lagless :)`
`09:44.27`	`*** join/#sc2mapster PassivePicasso1 (~Twiner@c-75-68-114-20.hsd1.nh.comcast.net)`
`09:44.40`	`hawker`	`not really my department, tbh`
`09:45.02`	`FockeWulf`	`I made one a while back`
`09:45.07`	`FockeWulf`	`bounty used it for his maps :)`
`09:45.30`	`Nash\|327`	`awesomeness`
`09:45.46`	`Nash\|327`	`I just got a call, going to job interview tomorrow.`
`09:45.47`	`FockeWulf`	`the power of create thread`
`09:45.52`	`FockeWulf`	`lol`
`09:45.52`	`FockeWulf`	`nice`
`09:45.54`	`FockeWulf`	`for what?`
`09:46.00`	`*** join/#sc2mapster avogatro1 (~avogatro@nat-wh-hadi.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de)`
`09:46.02`	`Nash\|327`	`programming`
`09:46.08`	`FockeWulf`	`congrats`
`09:47.09`	`hawker`	`excellent`
`09:47.18`	`hawker`	`gj`
`09:47.28`	`hawker`	`but anyway, i want to sleep ;G`
`09:47.32`	`hawker`	`how do shots look?`
`09:48.35`	`Nash\|327`	`nice`
`09:48.49`	`hawker`	`k`
`09:48.56`	`Nash\|327`	`:D!`
`09:49.00`	`hawker`	`they'll look a little bettar with some nice polish`
`09:49.26`	`hawker`	`http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Oe6Pi-tIO9U/ThZfaGyE-GI/AAAAAAAAAOM/cncjAYE_DaI/s1600/kiwi_shoe_polish1.jpg`
`09:49.28`	`hawker`	`should owkr`
`09:49.32`	`hawker`	`anyway, got to sleep`
`09:49.35`	`Nash\|327`	`D:`
`09:49.35`	`hawker`	`zug zug`
`09:49.45`	`hawker`	`will die otherwise`
`09:49.49`	`hawker`	`only 4 hours`
`09:49.51`	`hawker`	`dont worry`
`09:49.55`	`hawker`	`;\|`
`09:49.58`	`hawker`	`ZUG ZUG`
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`09:58.11`	`Nash\|327`	`kittunbag`
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`10:09.06`	`RndmObjcts`	`anyone available to help me test a map out real quick? im from the US btw so someone on that server`
`10:10.01`	`Nash\|327`	`noes D:`
`10:10.24`	`Nash\|327`	`hawker left to go sleep`
`10:10.46`	`RndmObjcts`	`D: helral told me i need to get someone to test the map for me online to see if the info panel problem i was having is something that effects online play`
`10:10.58`	`RndmObjcts`	`i am*`
`10:11.07`	`Nash\|327`	`the only other active person recently besides me is FockeWulf :G`
`10:11.17`	`Currydevil`	`lies!`
`10:11.33`	`Nash\|327`	`omg it speaks`
`10:11.42`	`Currydevil`	`meow?`
`10:11.46`	`Currydevil`	`I can test.`
`10:11.56`	`RndmObjcts`	`oh and if anyone knows anything about dialogs wants something to do... i really need help with this too http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/23413-dialog-timer-that-counts-up/#p1`
`10:12.02`	`RndmObjcts`	`all the information is posted on it`
`10:12.04`	`Currydevil`	`magnade.936 (i think that is the right number) lol`
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`10:14.25`	`Currydevil`	`I can test for you rndm`
`10:14.46`	`RndmObjcts`	`:D`
`10:15.11`	`RndmObjcts`	`alright, got skype? its a single player map and far from finished i just need to make sure this bug is editor side`
`10:15.23`	`Currydevil`	`no skype =O`
`10:15.41`	`Currydevil`	`i do have vent tho`
`10:15.58`	`RndmObjcts`	`got a server we can talk on? i have a buddies we can use if not`
`10:16.07`	`Currydevil`	`yeah`
`10:16.12`	`Currydevil`	`lemme go find the info`
`10:16.17`	`RndmObjcts`	`k just pm me`
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`10:24.02`	`darglein`	`hi, anyone there?`
`10:24.50`	`Currydevil`	`maaaybe`
`10:25.13`	`darglein`	`ok i have a question`
`10:25.39`	`darglein`	`is it possible to return a array in a custom funcition?`
`10:26.15`	`Currydevil`	`maybe? i'm not the best with functions =(`
`10:27.24`	`darglein`	`hm i get an error that pointers are not implemented but im not sure if i made an error or something`
`10:30.47`	`___________`	`return an array? u want to spit out all the numbers in an array?`
`10:30.55`	`___________`	`that is not possible no`
`10:31.13`	`___________`	`u can return 1 value yes`
`10:31.25`	`darglein`	`ok thx`
`10:31.41`	`___________`	`any data ppl here?`
`10:31.46`	`darglein`	`bad editor though`
`10:32.14`	`___________`	`How can I get the location of a creator unit`
`10:32.40`	`___________`	`meaning, 1 unit creates another unit... how do i get the creators location relative to new unit?`
`10:32.40`	`darglein`	`get position of unit`
`10:32.57`	`___________`	`i want the new unit to teleport to the creators location`
`10:33.27`	`darglein`	`get both units over a trigger and teleport`
`10:33.33`	`___________`	`thru data, not triggers`
`10:33.43`	`darglein`	`ah ok`
`10:33.47`	`darglein`	`then i dont know`
`10:33.48`	`___________`	`D:`
`10:34.12`	`___________`	`Guess I'll have to wait till people wake up`
`10:34.40`	`darglein`	`its actually 1:34 pm here`
`10:34.48`	`___________`	`o`
`10:35.27`	`Currydevil`	`lol`
`10:35.42`	`Currydevil`	`3:35 am.. but i'd have to play with the de to try and figure it out.`
`10:35.52`	`___________`	`awesome :)`
`10:36.01`	`___________`	`same time for me`
`10:36.08`	`darglein`	`us?`
`10:36.10`	`Currydevil`	`haha, where at?`
`10:36.13`	`___________`	`US WEST`
`10:36.15`	`___________`	`cali`
`10:36.21`	`Currydevil`	`cool cool, Oregon here`
`10:36.30`	`___________`	`never been, but ive passed thru`
`10:37.02`	`darglein`	`my timezone is better for watching gsl :)`
`10:37.21`	`Currydevil`	`i was born in cali, but ... didn't spend much time there`
`10:37.32`	`Currydevil`	`only recently made it back to the west coast`
`10:37.57`	`___________`	`o deng, sounds like uve traveled a lot o.o`
`10:38.20`	`Currydevil`	`military family ;)`
`10:40.14`	`XenoX101`	`hey darglein`
`10:40.26`	`XenoX101`	`nice micro trainer map`
`10:41.45`	`darglein`	`hihi thx`
`10:42.26`	`darglein`	`just making marine AI but this editor sucks`
`10:42.34`	`XenoX101`	`sure does`
`10:42.43`	`XenoX101`	`do you know by any chance how to replace the button frame image?`
`10:43.09`	`darglein`	`na i just use standart buttons`
`10:43.16`	`XenoX101`	`mm`
`10:43.57`	`XenoX101`	`I'm making a micro map too btw`
`10:44.10`	`XenoX101`	`http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=235163`
`10:44.18`	`darglein`	`sp or mp?`
`10:44.24`	`XenoX101`	`mp`
`10:44.54`	`darglein`	`haha so no rival`
`10:45.01`	`XenoX101`	`nah ;p`
`10:45.09`	`XenoX101`	`its cool though`
`10:45.13`	`XenoX101`	`theres that other one by StarDust`
`10:45.20`	`XenoX101`	`SC2 Micro Tournament`
`10:45.32`	`XenoX101`	`good map but its got a few problems though`
`10:45.37`	`darglein`	`and morrows micro tournament`
`10:45.44`	`XenoX101`	`yeah that one ain't so great`
`10:45.45`	`darglein`	`its the most popular one`
`10:45.49`	`XenoX101`	`not anymore`
`10:46.00`	`XenoX101`	`it got overtook by that other one`
`10:46.03`	`darglein`	`its still featured`
`10:46.10`	`XenoX101`	`featured really?`
`10:46.14`	`darglein`	`yep`
`10:46.17`	`XenoX101`	`lol`
`10:46.17`	`XenoX101`	`sad`
`10:46.24`	`XenoX101`	`the standards are so low`
`10:46.28`	`XenoX101`	`blizzard doesn't know wtf they're doing`
`10:46.45`	`darglein`	`nothing new :P`
`10:46.55`	`XenoX101`	`mm`
`10:47.02`	`XenoX101`	`you should publish your map on SEA`
`10:47.19`	`darglein`	`someone published it without asking`
`10:47.24`	`XenoX101`	`oh right`
`10:47.53`	`darglein`	`thats the problem with public uploading`
`10:49.43`	`darglein`	`lol you cant even set an array an other array`
`10:50.54`	`___________`	`The only way I can think of changing the command card button outline is to export the frame texture, edit it (or swap it with another texture) then re importing it`
`10:51.01`	`___________`	`i cant find where its declared in the editor`
`10:51.11`	`___________`	`the actual button, the textures are findable tho`
`10:51.15`	`___________`	`theyre sorted by race`
`10:54.06`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa\|Zug (~MexaEU@80.78.216.204)`
`10:54.28`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`hi.`
`10:55.07`	`___________`	`sup`
`10:56.59`	`darglein`	`how can i use the implemented algorithms like bubble sort?`
`10:59.09`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`bubble sort?`
`10:59.11`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`ish`
`10:59.13`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`:>`
`10:59.30`	`darglein`	`ye or another sort algorithm`
`11:01.36`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Did they implement any other?`
`11:02.00`	`darglein`	`yep`
`11:02.09`	`darglein`	`i figured out how to use them`
`11:02.26`	`darglein`	`they implementet bubble,selection,insertion and quick sort btw`
`11:02.27`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`alrighty`
`11:06.02`	`___________`	`): Still cant figure out how to get my creator unit's location D:`
`11:12.06`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Nose`
`11:12.07`	`XenoX101`	`ok I've changed the button images`
`11:12.10`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Fucking noseblood`
`11:12.12`	`XenoX101`	`but now they aren't transparent -.-`
`11:12.13`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Seriouslt D:`
`11:12.53`	`___________`	`if you edited or made your own images make sure they have correct alpha channels`
`11:12.59`	`___________`	`alphas control transparency`
`11:13.17`	`XenoX101`	`nah they are the game's images`
`11:13.24`	`XenoX101`	`thats whats so annoying`
`11:13.30`	`___________`	`weird o.o`
`11:13.31`	`XenoX101`	`the exact same images were transparent before`
`11:13.35`	`XenoX101`	`mm`
`11:13.44`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Hmm.. I was bleeding down at the breakfast plate`
`11:13.52`	`___________`	`lol`
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`11:19.00`	`darglein`	`when you declare an array for example integer[10] does it go from [0]-[9] ro from [1]-[10]?`
`11:19.16`	`___________`	`0-9`
`11:19.32`	`darglein`	`are you sure`
`11:19.51`	`darglein`	`in every normal programming language yes but the editor is weird`
`11:19.52`	`___________`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/tutorials/`
`11:19.54`	`___________`	`oops`
`11:20.02`	`___________`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/2051-beginners-guide-to-triggers-variables-arrays-constants/`
`11:20.04`	`___________`	`that`
`11:20.39`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`if you declare it using gui, then you will actually get 0-10`
`11:20.47`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`.. so 11 indices`
`11:21.04`	`darglein`	`lol`
`11:21.07`	`___________`	`o, then jk`
`11:21.16`	`___________`	`i reread the post and its what he says`
`11:21.19`	`___________`	`0-10`
`11:21.57`	`darglein`	`ok thx make much sense`
`11:22.30`	`darglein`	`and what number you get when you call array.lenght()?`
`11:23.29`	`darglein`	`hm i think a array lenght function doesent even exist`
`11:23.40`	`___________`	`ive never seen it`
`11:24.07`	`___________`	`http://cortexrp.com/starcraft/natives.galaxy`
`11:24.13`	`___________`	`list of all galaxy declarations`
`11:24.36`	`darglein`	`ye you dont necessarry need it because you cant declae the array lenght with a variable`
`11:26.56`	`Deaod`	`not in GUI`
`11:27.36`	`Deaod`	`also, array length of 10 allocating 11 indices doesnt make any sense.`
`11:28.08`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`It does it for gui compat`
`11:28.25`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`and another obvious reason that the editor was not designed for programmers`
`11:28.39`	`Deaod`	`actually, its to still work when idiots use it.`
`11:28.50`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`more or less so;P`
`11:28.57`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`or rather`
`11:29.23`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`people don't know that players actually start at id 0 for instance`
`11:29.32`	`Deaod`	`they do.`
`11:29.48`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Some might not even think about it`
`11:30.03`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`but meh`
`11:30.13`	`Deaod`	`but by default the first player is some neutral, computer-controlled player`
`11:30.37`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`m`
`11:31.15`	`darglein`	`yep player 0 is for minerals and xelnaga tower and such stuff`
`11:32.48`	`Deaod`	`but again, using variables for array sizes is something GUI doesnt, perhaps didnt support`
`11:36.45`	`darglein`	`they should make an option to switch between source code and the normal gui`
`11:44.15`	`RndmObjcts`	`Nash\|327: yep its something wrong in the ui script, it happens to other people online D:`
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`12:32.47`	`mapsterman`	`xenox101`
`12:32.51`	`mapsterman`	`whats your problem`
`12:33.50`	`mapsterman`	`"<Agouti> mapsterman, it's the speed at which the camera decellerates when told to pan to somewhere I'm guessing"`
`12:34.00`	`mapsterman`	`yea but how do you change the accele3ration then`
`12:42.47`	`XenoX101`	`mapsterman`
`12:42.49`	`XenoX101`	`do you know by any chance`
`12:43.10`	`XenoX101`	`how to fix non-transparency on button images`
`12:43.34`	`XenoX101`	`as soon as I try to change the image`
`12:43.37`	`XenoX101`	`and set the type to normal`
`12:43.41`	`XenoX101`	`the bg goes white`
`12:43.55`	`mapsterman`	`Yea i happen to do Â¯\_(ã)_/Â¯`
`12:44.12`	`mapsterman`	`ok first`
`12:44.17`	`mapsterman`	`tell me what you wanna do`
`12:44.22`	`mapsterman`	`woith the image`
`12:44.25`	`XenoX101`	`make a button with my own graphic`
`12:44.29`	`XenoX101`	`without the normal button frame`
`12:44.34`	`mapsterman`	`ok`
`12:44.39`	`XenoX101`	`and my own hover image too`
`12:44.41`	`mapsterman`	`I just did that 2 days ago on my map`
`12:44.52`	`mapsterman`	`and`
`12:44.59`	`mapsterman`	`whats the tranparancy issue?`
`12:45.09`	`Agouti`	`mapsterman, I don't know much about cameras I'm sorry`
`12:45.09`	`XenoX101`	`any picture with transparency`
`12:45.15`	`XenoX101`	`the transparency turns white`
`12:45.18`	`mapsterman`	`its cool brah`
`12:45.27`	`mapsterman`	`I read your fight with fuckewulf`
`12:45.27`	`XenoX101`	`also it seems to be stretching funny`
`12:45.42`	`mapsterman`	`I saw a fight, so I went http://plus4chan.org/b/baw/src/130765451328.gif`
`12:46.01`	`mapsterman`	`ok`
`12:46.02`	`mapsterman`	`xeno`
`12:46.07`	`mapsterman`	`i had the same problems`
`12:46.20`	`mapsterman`	`and managed to fix them`
`12:46.23`	`mapsterman`	`heres the thing`
`12:46.42`	`mapsterman`	`your image size had to be the same as the size of your image in pixel`
`12:46.54`	`mapsterman`	`for the trasnparency`
`12:46.59`	`XenoX101`	`oh really`
`12:47.09`	`XenoX101`	`in dialog designer it lets you do whatever size`
`12:47.15`	`mapsterman`	`im assuming you imported a custom image?`
`12:47.26`	`XenoX101`	`nah just using normal ones for now`
`12:47.32`	`XenoX101`	`will use my own`
`12:47.39`	`mapsterman`	`yea it does, but if its not the same it will stretch`
`12:47.51`	`XenoX101`	`yeah but the transparency`
`12:48.07`	`XenoX101`	`its always transparent in dialog editor`
`12:48.09`	`XenoX101`	`err`
`12:48.11`	`XenoX101`	`dialog designer`
`12:48.26`	`XenoX101`	`so not sure if it has to do with the size is all`
`12:48.28`	`mapsterman`	`what do you mean a picture with transparency`
`12:48.31`	`mapsterman`	`you put the picture`
`12:48.41`	`XenoX101`	`with alpha channel`
`12:48.41`	`mapsterman`	`and then use the set transparency functioin?`
`12:48.43`	`XenoX101`	`you can see behind it`
`12:49.05`	`mapsterman`	`ok you mean an already semi transparent imagte?`
`12:49.07`	`XenoX101`	`like`
`12:49.10`	`XenoX101`	`yeah`
`12:49.14`	`XenoX101`	`icon-1v1-terran.dds`
`12:49.21`	`mapsterman`	`i sec ill check`
`12:49.22`	`XenoX101`	`is a white terran symbol with transparent bg`
`12:49.33`	`XenoX101`	`as a normal image you can see the symbol with transparency`
`12:49.45`	`XenoX101`	`as an image of the button`
`12:49.53`	`XenoX101`	`the bg becomes white and you cant see the symbol`
`12:49.54`	`mapsterman`	`btw hows your map going]`
`12:50.01`	`mapsterman`	`I saw your post on TL`
`12:50.01`	`XenoX101`	`pretty good otherwise`
`12:50.10`	`XenoX101`	`doing a lot of graphics`
`12:50.21`	`XenoX101`	`havent done much with the triggering in a bit`
`12:50.21`	`mapsterman`	`i saw you plan on doing like 200 matchups?`
`12:50.26`	`XenoX101`	`yeah`
`12:50.32`	`mapsterman`	`man thats gonna be long`
`12:50.42`	`XenoX101`	`it'll be a while but its an ongoing project`
`12:50.44`	`mapsterman`	`I made 70 already`
`12:50.48`	`mapsterman`	`for my map`
`12:50.51`	`mapsterman`	`took like`
`12:50.55`	`XenoX101`	`oh are you from sc2 micro tournament?`
`12:50.56`	`mapsterman`	`30 m,inutes each`
`12:50.59`	`mapsterman`	`yea`
`12:51.02`	`XenoX101`	`lol`
`12:51.08`	`XenoX101`	`sorry didnt mean to diss your map before`
`12:51.15`	`mapsterman`	`diss?`
`12:51.23`	`XenoX101`	`poke fun at`
`12:51.23`	`mapsterman`	`what do you mean`
`12:51.31`	`mapsterman`	`ah, I didnt see`
`12:51.33`	`mapsterman`	`what did u say`
`12:51.34`	`XenoX101`	`I mentioned there were a few problems in it`
`12:51.41`	`mapsterman`	`what are they?`
`12:51.49`	`XenoX101`	`ah just like triggering`
`12:51.54`	`XenoX101`	`it gets really slow at the start`
`12:52.05`	`XenoX101`	`and it could probably be a bit better polished`
`12:52.09`	`XenoX101`	`some of the matchups are a bit one-sided`
`12:52.34`	`XenoX101`	`and the elo system doesnt work so well with the variety of options you get to play`
`12:52.45`	`XenoX101`	`because people are playing with different conditions`
`12:53.01`	`XenoX101`	`should just be a standard play mode`
`12:53.05`	`XenoX101`	`with custom play mode being non-ranked`
`12:53.06`	`mapsterman`	`nah triggers are cool as long as theres no one with commodore 64s`
`12:53.12`	`XenoX101`	`nah`
`12:53.15`	`XenoX101`	`I have a i5 760`
`12:53.17`	`XenoX101`	`with gtx 460`
`12:53.20`	`mapsterman`	`matchups are all winable`
`12:53.20`	`XenoX101`	`run sc2 on ultra`
`12:53.21`	`mapsterman`	`but`
`12:53.23`	`XenoX101`	`and it lags like shit`
`12:53.27`	`mapsterman`	`balanced for good players`
`12:53.27`	`XenoX101`	`on the startup of matches`
`12:53.37`	`mapsterman`	`at nub level its unblanced yes`
`12:53.45`	`XenoX101`	`yeah I dunno some of the matchups were`
`12:53.49`	`XenoX101`	`consistently lost`
`12:53.50`	`mapsterman`	`worked a lot with top 8 masters into building them`
`12:53.56`	`XenoX101`	`mm`
`12:54.03`	`mapsterman`	`some people are just nub`
`12:54.08`	`mapsterman`	`and cant figure it out`
`12:54.13`	`XenoX101`	`maybe`
`12:54.20`	`XenoX101`	`good to double check thoguh`
`12:54.20`	`XenoX101`	`though`
`12:54.22`	`mapsterman`	`I used to try to make nubs happy too`
`12:54.33`	`mapsterman`	`but it just cant be balanced for eveyr level`
`12:54.39`	`mapsterman`	`so I stoped caring about nubs`
`12:54.41`	`XenoX101`	`mm`
`12:54.52`	`XenoX101`	`well the idea is that both players should come out roughly even`
`12:54.58`	`XenoX101`	`from low to high level play`
`12:54.58`	`mapsterman`	`now if they arent top masters their opinions are without relevance to me`
`12:55.17`	`XenoX101`	`anyway`
`12:55.21`	`mapsterman`	`what do you mean the elo doesnt work?`
`12:55.30`	`XenoX101`	`well its inconsistent`
`12:55.36`	`XenoX101`	`because of the conditions at the start of the game`
`12:55.36`	`mapsterman`	`??`
`12:55.40`	`XenoX101`	`random play etc`
`12:55.42`	`XenoX101`	`air units etc`
`12:55.51`	`mapsterman`	`how is it inconsistant`
`12:56.09`	`mapsterman`	`comes down the same same whatever you chose`
`12:56.10`	`XenoX101`	`because you can be really good at air unit battles`
`12:56.12`	`XenoX101`	`suck at all the other ones`
`12:56.19`	`XenoX101`	`vice versa`
`12:56.20`	`mapsterman`	`uhm...`
`12:56.23`	`mapsterman`	`not rly lol`
`12:56.33`	`mapsterman`	`but even then`
`12:56.36`	`XenoX101`	`it adds variables that can make ranking odd`
`12:56.36`	`mapsterman`	`not a big deal`
`12:56.46`	`XenoX101`	`it should just be`
`12:56.48`	`XenoX101`	`choose your race`
`12:56.51`	`XenoX101`	`play against others`
`12:56.51`	`mapsterman`	`ranking will always be odd anyways`
`12:56.57`	`mapsterman`	`with blizzards bank system`
`12:56.58`	`XenoX101`	`well not really`
`12:57.04`	`XenoX101`	`can be pretty good`
`12:57.11`	`mapsterman`	`and some people will hack it etc`
`12:57.14`	`XenoX101`	`mine will also be elo`
`12:57.21`	`XenoX101`	`well yeah but`
`12:57.23`	`mapsterman`	`cool`
`12:57.24`	`XenoX101`	`they still stuck if they suck`
`12:57.31`	`XenoX101`	`its not of any real gain to them`
`12:57.46`	`mapsterman`	`yea, thats what elos for`
`12:58.31`	`mapsterman`	`anyways`
`12:58.35`	`mapsterman`	`let me check your image`
`13:00.05`	`XenoX101`	`actually`
`13:00.07`	`XenoX101`	`you know what it is`
`13:00.10`	`XenoX101`	`its not the image at all`
`13:00.15`	`XenoX101`	`its that without the image`
`13:00.15`	`mapsterman`	`ok so whats the problem`
`13:00.17`	`XenoX101`	`the button turns white`
`13:00.23`	`XenoX101`	`because I just made the image smaller`
`13:00.24`	`mapsterman`	`the image doesnt have transparency`
`13:00.29`	`XenoX101`	`yes it does`
`13:00.31`	`mapsterman`	`you have to set it`
`13:00.45`	`XenoX101`	`well I don't know what that is`
`13:00.48`	`mapsterman`	`well try to set it and see`
`13:00.58`	`XenoX101`	`no thats not it`
`13:01.02`	`XenoX101`	`you're confusing`
`13:01.08`	`XenoX101`	`image property transparency`
`13:01.09`	`mapsterman`	`ok what does it show in game`
`13:01.12`	`XenoX101`	`with the actual transparency channel`
`13:01.16`	`XenoX101`	`anyway`
`13:01.21`	`XenoX101`	`the problem is not that`
`13:01.29`	`XenoX101`	`the problem is that when I try to change the button image`
`13:01.35`	`XenoX101`	`it becomes white`
`13:01.40`	`XenoX101`	`the button that is`
`13:01.40`	`mapsterman`	`all white?`
`13:01.45`	`XenoX101`	`yes`
`13:01.50`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`nomnom, tea`
`13:01.52`	`mapsterman`	`did you rezise it?`
`13:02.01`	`XenoX101`	`you cant resize buttons`
`13:02.02`	`mapsterman`	`om nom nom`
`13:02.05`	`XenoX101`	`well you can but thats weird`
`13:02.09`	`XenoX101`	`no its just a normal button`
`13:02.13`	`XenoX101`	`with some width & height properties`
`13:02.22`	`mapsterman`	`uhm idk then`
`13:03.00`	`Javdani`	`This editor was either not made by humans or made by giant buttfaces. =( Why would you disable the ability to use Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V for almost everything! (end rant)`
`13:03.00`	`mapsterman`	`what legue are you on ladder?`
`13:03.01`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`that it becomes white would be because the wrong image type mode is used I think?`
`13:03.06`	`XenoX101`	`only plat`
`13:03.09`	`XenoX101`	`high plat`
`13:03.10`	`XenoX101`	`though`
`13:03.24`	`mapsterman`	`you got good partners to help you balance ?`
`13:03.38`	`mapsterman`	`its pretty harder than one might think`
`13:03.44`	`XenoX101`	`not really yet but I'll find people`
`13:03.49`	`mapsterman`	`sometimes I feel like slapping whining nubs lol`
`13:03.55`	`XenoX101`	`as they say`
`13:03.58`	`XenoX101`	`if you build it they will come`
`13:03.59`	`mapsterman`	`sometimes its just a matter of 1 zergling`
`13:04.07`	`mapsterman`	`take it off its imba one side`
`13:04.15`	`mapsterman`	`add it its imba the other side`
`13:04.26`	`XenoX101`	`yeah I'm using pro replays to get my battles`
`13:04.32`	`XenoX101`	`so they are sort of pre-balanced by the game`
`13:04.36`	`mapsterman`	`uhm i see`
`13:04.49`	`XenoX101`	`it will still need refining but`
`13:04.56`	`XenoX101`	`it should be close to good`
`13:05.02`	`mapsterman`	`played it with catz today`
`13:05.10`	`mapsterman`	`says he liked it`
`13:05.36`	`mapsterman`	`cruncher was gonna join us but gsl started :s`
`13:05.49`	`XenoX101`	`are you a high level player`
`13:05.57`	`mapsterman`	`just top 8 master`
`13:06.08`	`mapsterman`	`I dont know then`
`13:06.17`	`mapsterman`	`well we aint buds`
`13:06.18`	`mapsterman`	`lol`
`13:07.20`	`mapsterman`	`and btw`
`13:07.26`	`mapsterman`	`morrows map is more popular than mine`
`13:07.39`	`XenoX101`	`I dont think it is`
`13:07.42`	`mapsterman`	`yea`
`13:07.43`	`XenoX101`	`last I checked yours was higher`
`13:07.44`	`mapsterman`	`500 hours`
`13:07.45`	`mapsterman`	`vs 100`
`13:07.57`	`mapsterman`	`you prolly check the old version`
`13:08.03`	`mapsterman`	`1.24 localised`
`13:08.12`	`mapsterman`	`is the newest morrow version`
`13:09.24`	`XenoX101`	`nah I just searched micro`
`13:09.27`	`XenoX101`	`and yours was the top`
`13:09.28`	`XenoX101`	`but meh`
`13:10.06`	`mapsterman`	`is blizz even featuring maps anymore?`
`13:10.15`	`mapsterman`	`havnt seen a featured map in like 2 months`
`13:10.24`	`mapsterman`	`oh`
`13:10.25`	`mapsterman`	`yea`
`13:10.30`	`mapsterman`	`theres something weird`
`13:10.35`	`mapsterman`	`if you search micro`
`13:10.43`	`mapsterman`	`the other one doesnt show up for some reason`
`13:10.48`	`mapsterman`	`search tournament instead`
`13:11.01`	`XenoX101`	`k`
`13:12.17`	`mapsterman`	`and yea, you cant rly have realiable stat system in custom maps`
`13:12.33`	`XenoX101`	`I think you can`
`13:12.36`	`XenoX101`	`I'll see though`
`13:12.38`	`mapsterman`	`whatever you do its gonna get hacked`
`13:12.44`	`XenoX101`	`nah`
`13:12.45`	`Agouti`	`i want to see mapsterman's map!`
`13:12.46`	`XenoX101`	`I disagree`
`13:12.58`	`mapsterman`	`come on bnet ill show ya`
`13:12.58`	`XenoX101`	`its a micro map`
`13:12.59`	`Agouti`	`I know it will be epic`
`13:13.02`	`Agouti`	`NA?`
`13:13.05`	`mapsterman`	`ya`
`13:13.06`	`XenoX101`	`how do you know this`
`13:13.12`	`mapsterman`	`go channel micro`
`13:13.15`	`mapsterman`	`xeno`
`13:13.20`	`mapsterman`	`you know the map icjug`
`13:13.24`	`Agouti`	`hop in #sc2mapster`
`13:13.25`	`XenoX101`	`mm`
`13:13.32`	`XenoX101`	`what about it`
`13:13.33`	`mapsterman`	`oh theres a sc2mapster channel?`
`13:13.36`	`mapsterman`	`well`
`13:13.40`	`mapsterman`	`the guy who made it`
`13:13.49`	`mapsterman`	`apparently encrypted it like never before`
`13:14.06`	`mapsterman`	`and it got cracked by some kid`
`13:14.28`	`mapsterman`	`ok so where do we meet agouti`
`13:14.31`	`XenoX101`	`cool`
`13:14.38`	`Agouti`	`#sc2mapster`
`13:14.41`	`Agouti`	`sorry multitasking`
`13:15.01`	`Agouti`	`join channel sc2mapster ingame`
`13:15.23`	`mapsterman`	`no one in there`
`13:15.26`	`mapsterman`	`ah`
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`13:17.02`	`mapsterman`	`gogo accept`
`13:17.32`	`Agouti`	`sorry`
`13:17.32`	`Agouti`	`sec`
`13:18.36`	`Agouti`	`are you stardust?`
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`13:21.56`	`mapsterman`	`yea`
`13:21.57`	`mapsterman`	`lol`
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`14:35.54`	`Agouti`	`hmmm`
`14:36.05`	`Agouti`	`wondering what the best way of doing a large aura is`
`14:36.11`	`Agouti`	`best meaning most efficient`
`14:36.29`	`Agouti`	`the obvious way is search + apply periodically`
`14:36.31`	`Agouti`	`with limited dur`
`14:36.55`	`Agouti`	`I'm wondering if there is a better way with markers and have it channel`
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`14:46.34`	`Javdani`	`If I want to modify and/or create a new resource, is that done through triggers or through map settings? :s`
`14:48.37`	`Jum-Jum`	`Hey Javdani`
`14:48.47`	`Jum-Jum`	`I think you need to do that through map settings`
`14:48.51`	`Jum-Jum`	`Or well, data editing`
`14:50.46`	`darglein`	`i just made a video for my micro AI here it is :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOuFWykoMC0`
`14:51.26`	`Javdani`	`Jum-Jum.. from Savage? :D`
`14:52.29`	`Jum-Jum`	`yes Javdani`
`14:52.37`	`Javdani`	`omg hiiii`
`14:52.39`	`Javdani`	`:>`
`14:52.41`	`Jum-Jum`	`:D`
`14:52.46`	`Jum-Jum`	`you just dissappeared`
`14:52.49`	`Jum-Jum`	`like everybody else!`
`14:52.52`	`Javdani`	`=(`
`14:53.32`	`Javdani`	`Yea I started working 50 hours a week for a year, barely had time to do irl stuff, let alone play online.`
`14:54.45`	`Jum-Jum`	`:(`
`14:54.59`	`Jum-Jum`	`we still have a squirrels channel on qnet`
`14:55.17`	`Javdani`	`Uhh sweet, I'll poke in some time`
`14:55.24`	`Javdani`	`What are you guys playing/doing these days?`
`14:55.43`	`Jum-Jum`	`hon and sc2 and lol`
`14:55.47`	`Jum-Jum`	`depends on who you ask`
`14:56.05`	`Javdani`	`Seen my old old old HoN video? :D I included Squirrels in the opening xD`
`14:56.09`	`Jum-Jum`	`its just me, exezic, sodankerjuu and stanz who are active`
`14:56.12`	`Jum-Jum`	`uuuh... no! :O`
`14:56.16`	`Javdani`	`lawls!`
`14:56.22`	`Javdani`	`Youtube Javdani's Armaplay`
`14:56.28`	`Javdani`	`it's an Armadon video during beta`
`14:57.21`	`Jum-Jum`	`lol whooped chus rear in the savage 2 finals`
`14:57.25`	`Javdani`	`We did!`
`14:57.33`	`Jum-Jum`	`He never played Savage 2!`
`14:57.38`	`Javdani`	`Elchuchu?`
`14:57.40`	`Javdani`	`Isn't chu?`
`14:57.53`	`Javdani`	`He acts exactly like him :s`
`14:58.04`	`Jum-Jum`	`Erhm no, thats just a coincidence`
`14:58.11`	`Javdani`	`oh well ^^`
`14:58.14`	`Jum-Jum`	`Well hes one of those extreme arrogant trolling retards`
`14:58.17`	`Jum-Jum`	`Its the internet afterall!`
`14:58.19`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`meh... some dudes came knocking on my door, gaving me a little poster about "will humanity destroy earth?"`
`14:58.26`	`Jum-Jum`	`HAHA`
`14:58.32`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`And also, they were Jehova's`
`14:58.44`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`tsktskt`
`14:58.46`	`Jum-Jum`	`Did you ask them if they knew that the world ended a few months ago aswell?`
`14:59.23`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`;P no, I just said, 'oookay - but I'm not really interested'`
`14:59.57`	`Javdani`	`You should take them inside and introduce them to scientology`
`15:00.01`	`Jum-Jum`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVs7yQRPlYk`
`15:00.03`	`Javdani`	`or darwin perhaps`
`15:00.25`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`;)`
`15:01.19`	`Jum-Jum`	`also, cool video darglein. Late but I got caught up with the conversation. :D`
`15:02.05`	`darglein`	`ye thx`
`15:02.20`	`darglein`	`i should add a part were its like 100 marines vs 600 zerglings`
`15:02.30`	`darglein`	`there the ai have over 350 aps`
`15:02.42`	`Jum-Jum`	`haha`
`15:03.31`	`darglein`	`thats what the most casual people want to see`
`15:04.03`	`Javdani`	`Your video proves marines are op!`
`15:04.12`	`Javdani`	`or that zerglings are very dumb :<`
`15:04.24`	`Javdani`	`(or don't have zerglings speed)`
`15:04.35`	`Javdani`	`:D`
`15:04.40`	`darglein`	`^^`
`15:04.50`	`darglein`	`that make the marie life a lot easier`
`15:05.43`	`Javdani`	`God, I know it's only been 2 days for me playing with the editor, but I haven't felt this mentaly retarded since I took advanced math`
`15:06.46`	`darglein`	`^^`
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`15:14.45`	`Clord`	`moo moo`
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`15:21.35`	`Ashamed`	`fucking Mozilla not loading the reCAPTCHA:`
`15:21.40`	`Ashamed`	`had to log in with IE`
`15:22.56`	`Javdani`	`Why is it that you feel so utterly stupid when you finally find something you spent hours looking for.`
`15:23.03`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`15:23.10`	`Ashamed`	`relieved too`
`15:23.18`	`Javdani`	`Yes, but mostly stupid`
`15:23.50`	`A1win`	`maybe you are? >;3`
`15:24.51`	`Javdani`	`Yes, all evidence seems to point to that. Luckily I'm highly religious and don't believe in evidence, data and facts.`
`15:24.56`	`Javdani`	`pew pew :>`
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`15:43.02`	`Clord`	`well`
`15:43.11`	`Clord`	`someone shoots someone else and you see it¨`
`15:43.18`	`Clord`	`so it would evidently have happened XD`
`15:49.43`	`Ashamed`	`...`
`15:50.04`	`Ashamed`	`will it CLORD`
`15:50.05`	`Ashamed`	`WILL IT`
`15:51.08`	`Clord`	`lol`
`15:51.53`	`Clord`	`reminds of some BFFT movie series fanatics... who try to make sense of time travelling based on FICTION`
`15:51.54`	`Clord`	`XD`
`15:52.02`	`Clord`	`BTTF`
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`15:55.06`	`ducky_`	`wants to play some new/fresh maps`
`15:57.29`	`Clord`	`lol`
`15:57.46`	`Clord`	`ducky_... wait that blizzard makes custom game system better then`
`15:57.57`	`Clord`	`anyways currently in EU and USA it goes like this lol`
`15:58.02`	`Clord`	`there is those maps what appears nowhere`
`15:58.06`	`Clord`	`climbs to first position`
`15:58.16`	`Clord`	`then they enjoy their 15 minutes/hours/days whatever of fame`
`15:58.26`	`Clord`	`well... I don't really know how long`
`15:58.33`	`Clord`	`then they get huge fall and steady`
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`15:59.01`	`Ashamed`	`my map`
`15:59.05`	`Ashamed`	`will bea top 10 map`
`15:59.15`	`Ashamed`	`i am focusing on just mindless player game play`
`15:59.15`	`ducky_`	`maybe old pop sys would be better, but i also want different kind of maps`
`15:59.33`	`Clord`	`happens for maps like Element TD... it was first spot in EU but has started to nose dive as those who actually enjoyed it keeps playing it and new players experiencing it first time slows down`
`15:59.34`	`ducky_`	`what are you doing ashamed?`
`15:59.56`	`Ashamed`	`just a mass game with mucho systems`
`16:00.07`	`Ashamed`	`i have a perk tree that lvls your player up ;)`
`16:00.13`	`Ashamed`	`so you can get small perks`
`16:00.14`	`Clord`	`reminds me.... many ladder players likes TCG as it is relaxing card game XD`
`16:00.21`	`Ashamed`	`and everything is macro based`
`16:00.26`	`Clord`	`they can turn their brain mostly off`
`16:00.27`	`Ashamed`	`so you can press W and your units will attack to your camera`
`16:00.36`	`Ashamed`	`and dialogs for all the extra shit`
`16:00.40`	`Ashamed`	`like selecting unit spawns and stuff`
`16:00.45`	`Ashamed`	`so its just very easy to use too`
`16:00.45`	`ducky_`	`I never thought i would say it, but i'd like to play something like dbz map.. xD just a crappy action-rpg map with a setting would be so sweet ..`
`16:00.53`	`Ashamed`	`no ducky for sure`
`16:01.01`	`Ashamed`	`dbz on war3 was a great map`
`16:01.19`	`Ashamed`	`i dont rmber the name of it`
`16:01.21`	`Ashamed`	`but i liked it for sure`
`16:01.28`	`ducky_`	`never had WC3, got only sc1 in my bag`
`16:01.51`	`ducky_`	`anyway, the theme, the mood they set was amazing`
`16:02.16`	`ducky_`	`being a super sayan sure feels good :`
`16:02.29`	`Ashamed`	`dude`
`16:02.30`	`Ashamed`	`ducky`
`16:02.35`	`Ashamed`	`you should of played the war3 one`
`16:02.35`	`ducky_`	`quack?`
`16:02.42`	`Ashamed`	`there was like txt commands for SS`
`16:02.44`	`Ashamed`	`you would go SS`
`16:02.46`	`Ashamed`	`or SSJ`
`16:02.52`	`Ashamed`	`and BOOm`
`16:02.53`	`Ashamed`	`power UP`
`16:03.02`	`Ashamed`	`it had all dbz models too`
`16:03.31`	`ducky_`	`they didn't sell WC3 here untill like 3 years ago =[`
`16:03.44`	`ducky_`	`but i did play ghm.. pirated version >.<`
`16:03.59`	`ducky_`	`singleplayer only though`
`16:04.03`	`ducky_`	`hm`
`16:06.35`	`ducky_`	`i remember one amazing singleplayer RPG, i enjoyed it so much. It was a quality project, i bet there won't be many sc2 single player maps =[`
`16:07.07`	`hawker`	`naw, just wait`
`16:07.11`	`ducky_`	`meh, enough of this rant, I'm going back to mapping to be the change i want to see xD`
`16:07.12`	`hawker`	`give the scene some time`
`16:07.18`	`hawker`	`overly pessimistic`
`16:08.12`	`Clord`	`amnesia the dark descent...... there is tons of custom stories but only few custom models etc`
`16:08.22`	`Clord`	`game is released already quite some time ago`
`16:08.40`	`Clord`	`and has tons of active people making own horror stories XD`
`16:08.45`	`Clord`	`SCII is kinda similar situation`
`16:08.52`	`Clord`	`barely any models made etc`
`16:09.35`	`Clord`	`in fact... there is hardly even any imported art in SCII maps usually`
`16:09.46`	`hawker`	`hopefully hots will help with that`
`16:10.13`	`hawker`	`i think there is going to be an influx of more higher quality maps over the next six months`
`16:10.39`	`ducky_`	`but what makes a good rpg? WC3 already had the settings, fantasy and magic, it's uneverse had heroes and "epicness" by default.. Sc2 have futuristic stuff and default universe makes use of numbers and strategy, not heroes and glory :s`
`16:11.38`	`Clord`	`yeah WCIII`
`16:11.40`	`Clord`	`you can just place hero`
`16:11.43`	`Clord`	`do some minor editing`
`16:11.53`	`Clord`	`make huge region with boar spawning`
`16:12.01`	`Clord`	`and make them neutral hostile`
`16:12.02`	`Clord`	`voila`
`16:12.05`	`Clord`	`you have your grind RPG`
`16:12.24`	`ducky_`	`it's just that i die abit inside when i see a medival themed rpg in sc2 with rifles, zealots and zergs..`
`16:12.31`	`hawker`	`not going to disagree there`
`16:12.41`	`ducky_`	`and hero marines.. come on, marines are expendable by default -.-`
`16:12.50`	`Clord`	`it is matter of time before LOTR maps gets taken down`
`16:12.52`	`Clord`	`by blizzard`
`16:12.58`	`Clord`	`it uses too much copyrighted stuff XD`
`16:13.02`	`hawker`	`lol`
`16:13.07`	`ducky_`	`:P`
`16:13.17`	`hawker`	`that would illicit much RAGE`
`16:13.19`	`hawker`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:13.38`	`Clord`	`yeah but blizzard has track record not care how popular map is.. if it breaks rules`
`16:13.44`	`hawker`	`i think there are either 1 or 2 full RPGs in the works right now that are drawing on wow/other assets`
`16:13.54`	`hawker`	`don't quote me on that`
`16:13.57`	`hawker`	`memory could be faulty`
`16:14.09`	`Clord`	`then do CRC check`
`16:14.20`	`hawker`	`?`
`16:14.27`	`hawker`	`i'll search later`
`16:14.35`	`hawker`	`need to finish some of le data for someone`
`16:14.40`	`ducky_`	`can anyone give me a link to some high quality projects? i wonder what should i hope to see in a future`
`16:14.46`	`Clord`	`you already ruined the joke lol`
`16:14.52`	`hawker`	`search these`
`16:15.00`	`hawker`	`"Project Warfare"`
`16:15.01`	`*** join/#sc2mapster shintah (bebble@h-139-47.a155.priv.bahnhof.se)`
`16:15.06`	`hawker`	`"Warcraft: New Dawn"`
`16:15.22`	`hawker`	`i can't remember most of them on the spot`
`16:15.24`	`ducky_`	`ah, yes, thoose sweet full conversions`
`16:15.29`	`hawker`	`i guess tofu falls under that category`
`16:15.49`	`hawker`	`apparently AOS2 is impressive as well`
`16:15.54`	`hawker`	`but i know next to nothing about it`
`16:15.58`	`JademusSreg`	`I am ambivalent about the Warcraft thing.`
`16:16.01`	`ducky_`	`i was thinking more of terms of dungeon keeper..`
`16:16.07`	`hawker`	`that too`
`16:16.09`	`ducky_`	`yeah AOS 2... why so quiet`
`16:16.18`	`hawker`	`yes Jad, I am ambivalent about both of them actually`
`16:16.40`	`hawker`	`I am worried that it is going to be a matter of pretty custom assets and sub-par RTS gameplay`
`16:16.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`16:16.49`	`hawker`	`which would be disappointing`
`16:16.52`	`JademusSreg`	`And there are technical concerns.`
`16:16.59`	`Ashamed`	`jade guess what`
`16:17.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Suchs as publish status, distribution.`
`16:17.12`	`Ashamed`	`http://www.plumchoice.com/company/careers.asp#L1Engineer <--- my new job :) I got out of hell`
`16:17.18`	`JademusSreg`	`Congrats.=D`
`16:17.24`	`Clord`	`aos 2? XD`
`16:17.25`	`JademusSreg`	`Pretty sweet.`
`16:17.36`	`Ashamed`	`well that link may not work lol`
`16:17.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Does that mean you'll stop complaining?`
`16:17.49`	`Ashamed`	`http://www.plumchoice.com/company/careers.asp <---`
`16:17.55`	`Ashamed`	`l1 engineer :)`
`16:17.59`	`Ashamed`	`um i think so`
`16:18.00`	`Ashamed`	`i dunno`
`16:18.03`	`JademusSreg`	`YES.`
`16:18.04`	`Ashamed`	`i have not started yet`
`16:18.14`	`Ashamed`	`but the pay is doulble my current pay`
`16:18.17`	`Ashamed`	`with full paid benifits`
`16:18.21`	`Ashamed`	`and a beer fridge`
`16:18.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Salaried, I assume.`
`16:18.38`	`Clord`	`let me guess... you see "beer fridge" as biggest benefit XD`
`16:18.39`	`Ashamed`	`so....... i dont think i will be complaining`
`16:18.44`	`Ashamed`	`it was salary but they just did some finical changes`
`16:18.46`	`Ashamed`	`and we are not anymore`
`16:18.47`	`JademusSreg`	`Congrats.`
`16:18.49`	`JademusSreg`	`++`
`16:18.55`	`hawker`	`oh jad, as a result of frostwind's inecessant complaining in the irc i made him a forum thread :P`
`16:18.58`	`Ashamed`	`its statrting pay 17 dollars an hour`
`16:18.59`	`Ashamed`	`with mucho OT`
`16:19.13`	`Clord`	`heck`
`16:19.14`	`JademusSreg`	`Hawker, that is funny. =D`
`16:19.17`	`Clord`	`you can build golden bath`
`16:19.18`	`Clord`	`lol`
`16:19.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Post a link and I'll check it out.`
`16:19.27`	`Ashamed`	`oh hawk i saw that`
`16:19.29`	`Clord`	`and bath in the orange juice or something exotic`
`16:19.29`	`Ashamed`	`it get answered?`
`16:19.52`	`JademusSreg`	`I need to leave soon, taking the kids out to bounce around in inflatable things.`
`16:20.19`	`Clord`	`in first I did almost read "inflammable things"`
`16:20.23`	`Clord`	`I was almost like what`
`16:20.40`	`JademusSreg`	`Hahah`
`16:20.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes, because my children are fire elementals.`
`16:20.58`	`JademusSreg`	`Inflammable playsets are vital.`
`16:21.01`	`hawker`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/23416-how-to-combine-animations/#p1 :P`
`16:21.15`	`Clord`	`or "your children" are mysteriously disappearing neighorhood XD`
`16:21.22`	`hawker`	`sixen approved lul`
`16:21.41`	`JademusSreg`	`HAha`
`16:21.51`	`Clord`	`that same question was asked before too`
`16:22.05`	`Clord`	`I remember that I replied something about that animations are made differently for SCII`
`16:22.12`	`JademusSreg`	`My response was that the model needs to be editted.`
`16:22.16`	`JademusSreg`	`edited`
`16:22.28`	`JademusSreg`	`To add animation groups.`
`16:22.51`	`JademusSreg`	`And then corresponding actor events could be used to apply anim groups.`
`16:23.39`	`Ashamed`	`yeah i dunno why that guy is freaking out`
`16:23.45`	`Ashamed`	`there is a way to edit it`
`16:23.56`	`Ashamed`	`i dont even udnerstand why he thinks that should be possable without editing the model`
`16:24.03`	`JademusSreg`	`No idea.`
`16:24.12`	`JademusSreg`	`Magical thinking, perhaps.`
`16:24.17`	`Ashamed`	`people are like us WOW models they have it`
`16:24.20`	`Ashamed`	`and he is like i dont want to`
`16:24.23`	`Ashamed`	`well then make your own`
`16:24.25`	`Ashamed`	`i dont want to`
`16:24.27`	`Ashamed`	`THEN DONT MAKE THE MAP`
`16:24.42`	`Ashamed`	`Erg people piss me off`
`16:25.30`	`darglein`	`i made new video with better quali and sound for my map: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJjs0_W5lkU`
`16:26.53`	`Clord`	`and let's talk about those wannabee maps`
`16:27.16`	`Clord`	`"I just played this map so we decided that we must make an clone as it will be superior! attempts"`
`16:27.17`	`Clord`	`XD`
`16:27.23`	`Clord`	`"I just played this map so we decided that we must make an clone as it will be superior!" attempts`
`16:27.44`	`Clord`	`then they come to whine why their map didn't take off`
`16:33.38`	`JademusSreg`	`bbl`
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`16:38.52`	`hawker`	`i wish my kneees didn't get so sore after running -________-`
`16:43.26`	`ducky_`	`wannabees are cool. Maybe 90% will fail, but sooner or later they will spawn another good mapper, so it's all cool cause it benefits us`
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`16:45.07`	`tordy`	`yo which panel is the where the function buttons are?`
`16:46.04`	`Ashamed`	`erg`
`16:46.15`	`tordy`	`the 4 buttons on the top left`
`16:46.18`	`Ashamed`	`fucking 6 1/2 left of hell`
`16:46.23`	`tordy`	`i want to remove the achivement and message log buttons`
`16:46.30`	`tordy`	`via sc2layout`
`16:46.58`	`ducky_`	`darglein, that was pretty cool, gotta love AIs =D`
`16:48.51`	`Clord`	`lol`
`16:48.53`	`Clord`	`I kinda forgot`
`16:48.57`	`Clord`	`that there is humans vs AI mode`
`16:48.59`	`Clord`	`in SCII`
`16:50.12`	`tordy`	`lol!`
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`16:58.42`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Did anyone else hear about the mass ban stuff=`
`16:58.56`	`Nash\|327`	`Brood-troll Desert Strike is kinda fun`
`16:59.13`	`Nash\|327`	`people are all like lol noob mass overseers`
`16:59.34`	`Nash\|327`	`and they get a face full of broodling`
`17:00.23`	`hawker`	`best banelig troll`
`17:00.25`	`hawker`	`baneling op`
`17:00.26`	`hawker`	`:D`
`17:00.44`	`Nash\|327`	`you bild a 3:1 ration of overseers and brood lords`
`17:00.49`	`Vailreth`	`hello people im here`
`17:00.57`	`Nash\|327`	`assumign your allies back you up with anti-air`
`17:01.13`	`Nash\|327`	`the dumb attack move AI attacks overseers or broodlings`
`17:01.39`	`Nash\|327`	`with a decent number of brood lords you can shut down their ground units entirely`
`17:01.44`	`Nash\|327`	`they don't advance at all`
`17:01.56`	`Nash\|327`	`trololololololo`
`17:02.30`	`Vailreth`	`sets free a gaggle of kittuns`
`17:02.40`	`Nash\|327`	`one guy raged and started calling me fat and stuff`
`17:02.52`	`Nash\|327`	`even sent me messages after he lost`
`17:02.54`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`lol`
`17:03.08`	`Nash\|327`	`one guy was like gg mass overseer nub`
`17:03.16`	`Nash\|327`	`because they were at our fortress`
`17:03.35`	`Nash\|327`	`after that my brood lords just started pwning everything`
`17:03.41`	`Nash\|327`	`until we won ;G`
`17:04.48`	`Nash\|327`	`just get a team, after some units at the start, random crap`
`17:05.00`	`Nash\|327`	`make vikings, void rays and brood lords`
`17:05.28`	`Nash\|327`	`brood lords + overseers`
`17:06.37`	`Vailreth`	`what mass ban stuff?`
`17:08.26`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=243511`
`17:09.28`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Something about warden detecting overlays and can have you banned for it`
`17:10.12`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`So, well, stuff like Raidcall`
`17:10.31`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`And apparantly about 40% of all taiwanese people playing have been banned`
`17:11.56`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`could also potentially be the database merge :v`
`17:14.21`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Meh, I don't know what it is... but people gets banned apparantly`
`17:14.22`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AiNJkQvyvDgAdE42VkFVbHJ0Y0U2cEpNSEhmdG5qN3c&single=true&gid=0&output=html`
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`17:16.25`	`mapsterman`	`anyone got knowledge on bank encryption?`
`17:16.44`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@ip68-6-118-107.sb.sd.cox.net)`
`17:16.49`	`Nash\|327`	`I don't see how people are not okay with this, but okay with airport security. This move probably banned a bunch of maphacks in Starcraft 2, while banning a few "innocent" people (who claim they were only using RaidCall). Airport security routinely harass millions of people every day in hopes of finding ONE OR TWO terrorists a day. People on TL are truly ridiculous, arguing for "freedom" over this, while ignoring everything else going on`
`17:17.04`	`Nash\|327`	`That post sums up my opinion.`
`17:17.35`	`tordy`	`what just happened`
`17:17.45`	`mapsterman`	`hey tordy sup`
`17:17.50`	`mapsterman`	`you talking to me?`
`17:17.56`	`tordy`	`nope`
`17:17.59`	`mapsterman`	`kk`
`17:18.03`	`tordy`	`hello`
`17:18.27`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Nash, tho, if 40% of all Taiwanese players got banned for 'no reason', then it's not really good`
`17:18.37`	`tordy`	`that's not no reason`
`17:18.50`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`I admit that if they caught alot of hacks during the process, it's for the greater good.`
`17:18.56`	`Nash\|327`	`people accept worse shit every day`
`17:19.05`	`Ashamed`	`erg`
`17:19.10`	`Nash\|327`	`and get pissed off about some minor crap`
`17:19.23`	`Nash\|327`	`OMG THE WORLD ISN'T FAIR!?`
`17:19.35`	`Ashamed`	`fuck the world`
`17:20.29`	`Nash\|327`	`It's not fair, you live in an oppressive society where a corporate elite takes the profits which you produce.`
`17:20.41`	`Nash\|327`	`But oh, people got banned.`
`17:20.47`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`meh`
`17:20.53`	`Nash\|327`	`THAT's what's wrong with the world.`
`17:21.01`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Let them have their crymoment ;O`
`17:21.07`	`tordy`	`still cant believe it`
`17:21.51`	`Nash\|327`	`speaking of which...`
`17:21.57`	`Nash\|327`	`job interview tomorrow D_D`
`17:24.03`	`Ashamed`	`omg`
`17:24.04`	`Ashamed`	`they banned me`
`17:24.09`	`Ashamed`	`i got banned nash :(`
`17:24.16`	`hawker`	`Teamliquid: It's run by the Stasi!`
`17:24.18`	`tordy`	`Ashamed: noooooooooooo`
`17:24.21`	`Ashamed`	`its not fair :(`
`17:24.29`	`tordy`	`why`
`17:24.31`	`hawker`	`you can't offend the stasi bro`
`17:24.32`	`tordy`	`did you use raidcall`
`17:24.37`	`Ashamed`	`.... no i am joking`
`17:24.43`	`tordy`	`>:O`
`17:24.45`	`Ashamed`	`but.......`
`17:24.46`	`Ashamed`	`Nash gotz a job interview?`
`17:24.59`	`tordy`	`lucky`
`17:25.04`	`hawker`	`anway nash, i suspect a lot people on there take issue with the airport screenings as well`
`17:25.06`	`Ashamed`	`i just got me a new job`
`17:25.29`	`Nash\|327`	`Sure, but a lot of people accept it.`
`17:25.39`	`Nash\|327`	`IT KEEPS AWAY THE TERRORISTS!!!`
`17:25.40`	`Ashamed`	`http://www.plumchoice.com/company/careers.asp#L1Engineer <-- just got that job`
`17:25.54`	`Ashamed`	`Nash stop it with the jokes would you ><`
`17:25.57`	`hawker`	`i feel as if i've heard that somewhere before....`
`17:26.02`	`hawker`	`but where?`
`17:26.02`	`hawker`	`:P`
`17:27.05`	`hawker`	`blizzard probably should have communicated a bit better in this instance`
`17:27.10`	`hawker`	`but i'm not enraged`
`17:27.54`	`hawker`	`brb nommmmmming`
`17:28.19`	`Nash\|327`	`RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE`
`17:29.02`	`Nash\|327`	`job interview, never been to one D:`
`17:29.09`	`Deaod`	`Ashamed: "Responsibilities: Be framiliar with [...]"`
`17:29.33`	`Nash\|327`	`framiliarity is important`
`17:29.34`	`Deaod`	`is that a joke or did they really spell familiar framiliar`
`17:32.23`	`Ashamed`	`reall nash`
`17:32.25`	`Ashamed`	`what is it?`
`17:33.31`	`hawker`	`teh br0gramm1ng`
`17:33.46`	`Ashamed`	`wehn i am at work`
`17:33.50`	`Ashamed`	`i do minor edits on my comptuer from on over remote`
`17:34.00`	`hawker`	`sneaky`
`17:34.03`	`Ashamed`	`its very nice just being able to minimize sc2 instantly lol`
`17:34.10`	`Ashamed`	`because it doesn't have to wait for it to process`
`17:34.14`	`hawker`	`hmm`
`17:34.25`	`Ashamed`	`but i have to put sc2 graphics all the way down`
`17:34.30`	`Ashamed`	`and make it so it only displays in black and white`
`17:34.31`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`17:34.43`	`hawker`	`if every caught one of my employees mapping at work, i wouldn't be sure whether to commend them, or fire them`
`17:34.44`	`hawker`	`:P`
`17:35.00`	`Ashamed`	`hawker i hate this job`
`17:35.04`	`Ashamed`	`and will be only working ehre another 3 days`
`17:35.06`	`hawker`	`i know`
`17:35.23`	`hawker`	`you kind of say "x hours till hell is over" at least 10 times per day`
`17:35.26`	`Xan`	`nash been playing melee!?!??!!?`
`17:35.27`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`good for you manm`
`17:35.32`	`Ashamed`	`right now i just transfered a customer back to our phone queue and confernced in with him and put the phone on mute`
`17:35.35`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`*man`
`17:35.37`	`Ashamed`	`that is how much i dont care about this job now`
`17:35.51`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`But we all know it, you have been complaining like everyday of your time here;p`
`17:35.52`	`hawker`	`and i has there until you told us about your job`
`17:35.55`	`hawker`	`lol`
`17:35.56`	`hawker`	`:P`
`17:36.00`	`hawker`	`yep, we're experts`
`17:36.16`	`Ashamed`	`-.-`
`17:36.18`	`Ashamed`	`I AM SO HAPPY`
`17:36.28`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`I betya`
`17:36.40`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`And I like turtles`
`17:36.43`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`;p`
`17:36.48`	`Ashamed`	`mexa i have 2 turtles :)`
`17:36.51`	`Ashamed`	`Aqua turtles`
`17:36.55`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`for real?`
`17:37.00`	`Ashamed`	`its the for realz`
`17:37.07`	`Ashamed`	`but i think we are getting rid of them :(`
`17:37.30`	`hawker`	`:(`
`17:38.00`	`tordy`	`am i ashamed?`
`17:38.42`	`hawker`	`BUT WHO WAS PHONE`
`17:39.51`	`Ashamed`	`http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/65830_1721285001319_1514145524_31716121_4627947_n.jpg`
`17:39.52`	`Ashamed`	`mexa there you go`
`17:40.33`	`Ashamed`	`http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/67651_1643398774212_1514145524_31573486_2010085_n.jpg`
`17:40.35`	`Ashamed`	`TURTLE TURTLE`
`17:42.31`	`hawker`	`alright nash, back to your terrain :)`
`17:42.38`	`Nash\|327`	`woo`
`17:43.30`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`turtles :>`
`17:43.57`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Ashamed, your gf/wife?`
`17:44.05`	`Ashamed`	`yes my wife :)`
`17:44.09`	`Ashamed`	`she is a weirdo`
`17:44.13`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`lol`
`17:44.20`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`I'm sure she is just fine`
`17:44.25`	`Ashamed`	`:P`
`17:46.09`	`Nash\|327`	`riiight`
`17:47.46`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Them pizzas hasn't arrived yet`
`17:47.57`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`And it's been an hour since we ordered :\|`
`17:48.51`	`Nash\|327`	`omg pizza`
`17:48.57`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`omg tasty`
`17:49.00`	`Nash\|327`	`I can't afford pizza D;`
`17:49.15`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`:>`
`17:49.23`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`I decided I could today`
`17:49.37`	`tordy`	`hunger strikes!`
`17:49.41`	`Nash\|327`	`I have 220 kr`
`17:49.52`	`Nash\|327`	`or such`
`17:49.52`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`To spend the entire summer?`
`17:49.58`	`Nash\|327`	`yas`
`17:49.59`	`tordy`	`you live in korea?`
`17:50.02`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Omgz`
`17:50.17`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`What will you do when they are gone?`
`17:50.25`	`Nash\|327`	`drink water`
`17:50.46`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`And I thought you was going to say: get a job`
`17:50.48`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`;o`
`17:50.55`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`*were`
`17:51.09`	`Nash\|327`	`Naw I'm already doing that.`
`17:51.21`	`Nash\|327`	`I'm not waiting to be completely broke D_D`
`17:55.42`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`good`
`17:56.06`	`tordy`	`yo wassup\`
`18:01.35`	`hawker`	`alirght nasssssh`
`18:01.40`	`hawker`	`finished`
`18:01.45`	`hawker`	`that thing iwas wokring`
`18:01.46`	`hawker`	`on last night`
`18:01.48`	`hawker`	`going to upload`
`18:02.00`	`hawker`	`then have to be afk for a while`
`18:02.37`	`hawker`	`http://imageshack.us/g/189/screenshot20110713at203.png/`
`18:02.37`	`hawker`	`HOW LOOK`
`18:04.13`	`hawker`	`alright, bbl`
`18:07.45`	`Nash\|327`	`hawker is a wizard D:`
`18:19.07`	`Javdani`	`Hmm... on a scale of 1 to 10, how bugged would you guys say the editor is?`
`18:20.48`	`Vailreth`	`3 maybe`
`18:21.07`	`Vailreth`	`but my problem is my video editor doesnt come with a looping text plugin`
`18:21.44`	`Javdani`	`Guess I just need to get used to the logic of the editor`
`18:22.00`	`Vailreth`	`yeah. it takes a bit to get used to`
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`18:23.38`	`Xan`	`nash sell your books`
`18:23.41`	`Xan`	`and you will have more money`
`18:24.08`	`Xan`	`or get a job`
`18:24.09`	`Vailreth`	`man i do not want to do this a hack ass way ..`
`18:24.19`	`Nash\|327`	`no shit?`
`18:24.24`	`Xan`	`I have a question vail`
`18:24.34`	`Vailreth`	`i will try to answer`
`18:25.11`	`Xan`	`how would you go about to make a cover system? E.g. if a unit is close to a sandbag, he can't be hit from the other side of the sandbag, but can shoot over it`
`18:25.36`	`Xan`	`Like, if you are close to it, you can shoot over it, but if you are a bit away, if you try to hit someone behind it, you will hit the sandbag instead`
`18:26.31`	`Xan`	`is this extremely difficult to do?`
`18:27.25`	`Xan`	`I've managed to do it with triggers, but it doesn't work completely the way I'd like (it works, but if you give the unit an order queue, it messes up), also it might lag with a lot of units at once firing over cover`
`18:29.00`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`http://youtu.be/vfBSTCeHvtc nice trailer`
`18:38.26`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`http://satwcomic.com/nordics-like-fish`
`18:38.28`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`test`
`18:40.26`	`Xan`	`vail?`
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`18:46.21`	`IDEATH`	`Hello, everyone! =D`
`18:58.35`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`greetings`
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`19:03.59`	`Vailreth`	`sorry unexpected bio issues`
`19:04.25`	`Vailreth`	`cover gm`
`19:05.21`	`Vailreth`	`give the cover object a short rang aura that gives the unit covering behind it a buff that negates damage`
`19:05.38`	`Vailreth`	`as long as the coverobject is alive`
`19:06.00`	`Vailreth`	`Xan`
`19:06.03`	`Vailreth`	`sorry`
`19:06.11`	`Xan`	`hey`
`19:07.03`	`Vailreth`	`yeah it would just be an aura and a buff...`
`19:07.14`	`Xan`	`but it shouldnt negate damage, it should hit the cover object instead, but only from the other side of it. e.g. not if both units are on one side of the cover (but one close to it)`
`19:07.17`	`Vailreth`	`no big deal really`
`19:07.30`	`Vailreth`	`ah`
`19:07.37`	`Vailreth`	`well`
`19:07.56`	`Xan`	`and also, if both units are close to the cover, but on either side of it, they shouldnt hit the cover, they have to be a certain distance away`
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`19:08.23`	`Xan`	`I can send you the trigger test map if you want to see what I mean`
`19:08.37`	`Xan`	`it works like I want it to, but with triggers`
`19:08.42`	`Vailreth`	`do you want the cover object to take the same amout of damage as the unit would?`
`19:08.50`	`Xan`	`yep`
`19:08.54`	`Xan`	`excluding armor`
`19:09.07`	`Vailreth`	`that may be best with triggers`
`19:10.06`	`Xan`	`triggers mess up with unit order queues though - basically whenever a unit fires over cover and is a certain distance away, the unit has a chance to target fire the cover instead (and then target back to the previous unit)`
`19:10.21`	`Vailreth`	`hm`
`19:10.36`	`Xan`	`how do I upload it?`
`19:10.47`	`hawker`	`use pm is easy`
`19:10.51`	`hawker`	`pm vail`
`19:10.53`	`hawker`	`attach`
`19:11.06`	`Xan`	`in irc?`
`19:11.18`	`hawker`	`just use the sc2mapster pm`
`19:11.28`	`Vailreth`	`i have a free box.net account i use for hosting things'`
`19:12.31`	`Xan`	`cant attach in pm`
`19:12.35`	`Vailreth`	`the only way i can see to cause the same amount of damage to the cover object might be to use several switch effects and a large number of validators`
`19:12.44`	`Xan`	`hm`
`19:12.55`	`Xan`	`I want the whole attack to transfer to the target though`
`19:13.05`	`Vailreth`	`yeah`
`19:13.10`	`hawker`	`no`
`19:13.13`	`Xan`	`e.g. the marauder projectile should hit the cover and not the target`
`19:13.14`	`hawker`	`you can attach in pm`
`19:13.18`	`hawker`	`send pm`
`19:13.23`	`hawker`	`edit ---> attach`
`19:13.36`	`hawker`	`obnoxious, but that is how it is done`
`19:14.30`	`Xan`	`oh ok`
`19:14.33`	`Xan`	`vail I sent pm`
`19:14.42`	`Vailreth`	`then you may want a longer range aura that orders units with the attack order to target the cover object instead`
`19:15.40`	`Xan`	`hm an aura`
`19:18.59`	`Vailreth`	`let mepreview this video i made then i will get a test map working`
`19:20.39`	`Vailreth`	`ok`
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`19:23.24`	`Xan`	`alright`
`19:27.11`	`Nash\|327`	`infestor boss`
`19:27.18`	`Nash\|327`	`has infestor abilities :G`
`19:27.29`	`Nash\|327`	`though neural parasite is only 10 sec`
`19:28.21`	`Xan`	`what about: it spawns a lot of infested terrans, then burrows until all of them are dead`
`19:29.17`	`Nash\|327`	`it spawns them every 10 seconds`
`19:29.27`	`Nash\|327`	`egg spew`
`19:29.39`	`Xan`	`boring`
`19:29.41`	`Xan`	`must be more random`
`19:29.47`	`Nash\|327`	`bah`
`19:30.09`	`Nash\|327`	`Omegalisk burrows and pops up by random hero`
`19:30.14`	`hawker`	`nash u like?`
`19:30.24`	`hawker`	`temain?`
`19:30.29`	`Nash\|327`	`Infestor just keeps making ITs and mind controlling your doods`
`19:30.35`	`Nash\|327`	`more pics?`
`19:30.52`	`Nash\|327`	`oh that stuff you linked`
`19:31.04`	`Nash\|327`	`1½ hours ago?`
`19:33.06`	`Javdani`	`Is there a way to reset everything you've done in the data editor? (like if I want to keep the terrain I made but reset the data stuff)`
`19:34.45`	`Currydevil`	`yes, set the data source in the DE to your map and delete everything.`
`19:36.16`	`Javdani`	`I think I've also edited some stuff on the core units, won't those changes remain then?`
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`19:37.24`	`hawker`	`ya, the updated thing from last night`
`19:37.42`	`hawker`	`still kinda working on that, and i'm fixing up the mall thing that dresnia started`
`19:37.43`	`Currydevil`	`pretty sure it will list anything you made a change to, so if it's a core unit, right click it and reset to default`
`19:37.54`	`Nash\|327`	`I SAID YOU WERE A WIZARD WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT D:`
`19:38.07`	`Javdani`	`Will give it a try, thanks. :)`
`19:39.11`	`Nash\|327`	`You're a wizard, Hawker!`
`19:39.25`	`hawker`	`what`
`19:39.28`	`hawker`	`why am i wizard`
`19:39.30`	`hawker`	`:\|`
`19:39.31`	`hawker`	`kk`
`19:39.39`	`hawker`	`i guess i was afk`
`19:39.42`	`hawker`	`when you said that`
`19:39.43`	`hawker`	`rofl`
`19:39.43`	`hawker`	`:D`
`19:39.46`	`Nash\|327`	`Because you are good at terrain magic.`
`19:39.52`	`Nash\|327`	`Must be wizard.`
`19:39.56`	`hawker`	`i finally found the wire doodad`
`19:39.58`	`hawker`	`good times`
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`19:40.38`	`Nash\|327`	`gonna sleep soon, don't want to be tired and late for job interview`
`19:40.51`	`Vailreth`	`why the hell wont this work on enemy units`
`19:41.43`	`Ashamed`	`vail you can dooo it`
`19:42.34`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Hm, can someone confirm whether or not the 'modal' option for dialogs work=`
`19:42.37`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`*?`
`19:42.42`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`I have not yet seen it working`
`19:45.25`	`hawker`	`when are you going nash? i can have some more pics up for you if you want`
`19:50.21`	`Vailreth`	`i dont understand why this wont work...`
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`19:50.33`	`Dresnia`	`WHAZZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA`
`19:50.38`	`Nash\|327`	`just brushed mah teeth`
`19:50.44`	`Dresnia`	`amazing let's make out`
`19:50.44`	`hawker`	`dresnia`
`19:50.48`	`hawker`	`glad u r here`
`19:50.52`	`hawker`	`nao i can show u maep`
`19:50.53`	`hawker`	`:O`
`19:50.59`	`Dresnia`	`you gna regret that line`
`19:51.02`	`Dresnia`	`glad your here`
`19:51.04`	`hawker`	`yes`
`19:51.06`	`hawker`	`quite`
`19:51.09`	`Dresnia`	`^^`
`19:51.14`	`hawker`	`2 minutes`
`19:51.14`	`hawker`	`:D`
`19:51.18`	`Dresnia`	`trololoooo`
`19:51.28`	`Dresnia`	`LOOK AT MY HORSE`
`19:51.30`	`Dresnia`	`MY HORSE IS AMAZING`
`19:52.48`	`Dresnia`	`http://dearphotograph.com/`
`19:52.52`	`Dresnia`	`d'aaaaw`
`19:53.01`	`Nash\|327`	`well hurry up if you got something to link ;G`
`19:53.06`	`Nash\|327`	`I need to sleep D:`
`19:53.10`	`Dresnia`	`YOU GOT JOB ?`
`19:53.19`	`Nash\|327`	`job interview`
`19:53.25`	`Dresnia`	`amazing`
`19:53.59`	`Dresnia`	`java one ?`
`19:54.09`	`Nash\|327`	`C/C++ and stuff`
`19:54.20`	`Dresnia`	`pfff boring`
`19:54.26`	`Dresnia`	`I did c/c++ before u was born !`
`19:54.38`	`Nash\|327`	`I doubt that`
`19:54.47`	`Dresnia`	`all code is easy really`
`19:55.01`	`Dresnia`	`if $user == $dresnia : gg MOTHEFUCKERZ`
`19:55.07`	`Nash\|327`	`says the guy who is afraid of triggers`
`19:55.10`	`Nash\|327`	`D:`
`19:55.29`	`Nash\|327`	`noo, too hard to make triggers for a tug map!!!`
`19:55.32`	`Dresnia`	`Well I acutally triggerd pretty damn good at AoE series`
`19:55.47`	`Dresnia`	`It's not hard, I just cbfa anymore`
`19:57.07`	`Vailreth`	`i think i have my issue narrowed down to my issue order effect`
`19:57.52`	`hawker`	`uploading`
`19:57.56`	`hawker`	`waiting for the flaying`
`19:57.58`	`hawker`	`^^`
`19:58.06`	`Dresnia`	`INB4 SHITSTORM`
`19:58.45`	`hawker`	`INB4 OP COMMITS SEPPUKU`
`19:59.03`	`Dresnia`	`btw I can still fire this retard whenever I like right`
`19:59.20`	`Dresnia`	`if not I'm buying back his stocks !`
`19:59.27`	`Nash\|327`	`D_D`
`19:59.43`	`Dresnia`	`dont D me :(`
`19:59.43`	`hawker`	`:\|`
`19:59.51`	`hawker`	`reluctanctly copies link`
`19:59.56`	`Dresnia`	`:d`
`20:00.03`	`hawker`	`cringes`
`20:00.04`	`hawker`	`http://img851.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=screenshot20110713at358.png`
`20:00.14`	`hawker`	`OH GOD I CAN'T HANDLE THE STRESS`
`20:01.08`	`Dresnia`	`looks ok but kinda hard to see shit on a 5x5 screen`
`20:01.38`	`Nash\|327`	`I like.`
`20:01.42`	`Nash\|327`	`But now, sleep.`
`20:02.58`	`hawker`	`http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/7355/screenshot20110713at358.png`
`20:03.32`	`Dresnia`	`Looks oki but don't overuse shit like those smoke vents`
`20:03.41`	`hawker`	`kk`
`20:03.42`	`Dresnia`	`map should be really lightweight due the system`
`20:03.54`	`hawker`	`too many doodads in some plcas`
`20:03.57`	`hawker`	`i think`
`20:04.20`	`hawker`	`k, i'll keep those to a minimum`
`20:04.40`	`Vailreth`	`i give`
`20:04.43`	`Vailreth`	`sorry`
`20:04.49`	`Dresnia`	`it should be just 'enough' too look great`
`20:04.56`	`Dresnia`	`but also just 'less' too perform perfect`
`20:05.27`	`Vailreth`	`seems that i can only make allied units attack the cover object units`
`20:06.08`	`Xan`	`thats weird`
`20:06.28`	`Vailreth`	`yeah`
`20:09.52`	`IDEATH`	`eww...`
`20:09.58`	`IDEATH`	`a Mac...`
`20:11.44`	`Currydevil`	`lol`
`20:12.22`	`Vailreth`	`oh LoL its the maurader something about its weapon or something negates the behaviors effect`
`20:19.26`	`Dresnia`	`goodnight y'all`
`20:19.27`	`Dresnia`	`gl harl`
`20:19.29`	`Dresnia`	`hawker`
`20:19.35`	`hawker`	`yes`
`20:19.42`	`hawker`	`k`
`20:20.43`	`harl`	`aha?`
`20:37.58`	`Caz`	`mmhh.. didnt notice i was still in here XD`
`20:52.17`	`hawker`	`lllllllllllllllllllllllllll`
`20:52.30`	`Ashamed`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`20:55.47`	`RndmObjcts`	`Currydevil: hey you there?`
`21:03.31`	`_______________`	`Any data ppl here?`
`21:03.38`	`_______________`	`Im having trouble with a teleport`
`21:04.25`	`_______________`	`I'm trying to have a unit (which is created by another unit) teleport to its creator`
`21:04.45`	`_______________`	`the teleport is applied through a create persistent`
`21:05.03`	`_______________`	`i cant get the created unit to teleport to the creator`
`21:05.06`	`_______________`	`):`
`21:06.20`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`Goddnight`
`21:06.28`	`Mexa\|Zug`	`*good`
`21:10.24`	`Currydevil`	`yeah, i'm here rndm`
`21:10.53`	`RndmObjcts`	`Currydevil: want to test that map for me again? :D lol`
`21:11.11`	`Currydevil`	`sure, in just a mimn`
`21:11.12`	`Currydevil`	`min*`
`21:11.24`	`RndmObjcts`	`ok`
`21:13.20`	`RndmObjcts`	`just let me know when and i'll jump on your vent`
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`21:25.40`	`mapsterman`	`hello`
`21:25.45`	`Currydevil`	`hai`
`21:26.02`	`Currydevil`	`alright, ready when you are rndm`
`21:28.03`	`RndmObjcts`	`kk`
`21:52.41`	`Javdani`	`I've got a Queen harvesting minerals, anyone know how to attach an animation to it? Can't seem to get anything to work. :/`
`21:58.06`	`RndmObjcts`	`well first you need to open the queens model in the model viewer`
`21:58.15`	`RndmObjcts`	`and see what animations she has and which one you want`
`21:58.46`	`RndmObjcts`	`then go into the actor "Queen" and go to the Events: and make a new event for when we starts to mine to play animation`
`21:58.53`	`RndmObjcts`	`she*`
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`22:03.44`	`Javdani`	`I think I've done that, I can get her to reset her "stand" animation while mining, or rather.. it seems it defaults to that when I can't get her to do any specific animation`
`22:06.03`	`RndmObjcts`	`Javdani: im not the best at explaining things because im still learning myself, but if you want you can send me the map and i can go in and take a look and try to fix it for you if you want.`
`22:06.25`	`Javdani`	`Sure thing`
`22:06.48`	`Javdani`	`looking for map`
`22:07.29`	`Javdani`	`There we go :>`
`22:07.56`	`RndmObjcts`	`i dont know what that is lol.. um open a chat with me and i'll give you my email and you can send it like that? lol`
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`22:20.16`	`mapsterman`	`how do you make trigger wait until a loop is finished to perform the folowing actions?`
`22:20.53`	`Ashamed`	`1 more hour`
`22:22.07`	`mapsterman`	`you at work ashame?`
`22:22.31`	`Ashamed`	`like always :(`
`22:22.35`	`mapsterman`	`aw man`
`22:22.36`	`mapsterman`	`sucks`
`22:22.49`	`mapsterman`	`would be lol if your boss read this chat`
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`22:38.04`	`mapsterman`	`(ãâµçâ²)ãå½¡â»ââ»`
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`23:15.05`	`Vailreth`	`smello folks`
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`23:29.05`	`Javdani`	`gn all =)`
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`23:34.35`	`hawker`	`rawr`
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`23:47.30`	`XenoX101`	`man`
`23:47.51`	`XenoX101`	`I can't believe I still can't get this fucking button to not have a fucking white background`
`23:48.20`	`Frostwind`	`:(`
`23:48.36`	`XenoX101`	`why is it so hard to change button graphics`
`23:48.38`	`XenoX101`	`it should be a trivial thing`
`23:52.10`	`XenoX101`	`oh wait`
`23:52.12`	`XenoX101`	`ahaha`
`23:52.14`	`XenoX101`	`fuck`
`23:52.15`	`XenoX101`	`I am so stupid`
`23:52.24`	`XenoX101`	`omg`
`23:52.29`	`XenoX101`	`I am the biggest retard known to man`
`23:52.39`	`XenoX101`	`you will not believ`
`23:52.43`	`XenoX101`	`what the problem was`
`23:54.00`	`XenoX101`	`so I originally`
`23:54.07`	`XenoX101`	`made a little template image that went underneath all the buttons`
`23:54.16`	`XenoX101`	`it was going to be my frame for the buttons`
`23:54.32`	`XenoX101`	`just to get the positioning right I made it have all the boxes for the buttons white`
`23:54.49`	`XenoX101`	`well, I never actually changed the image`
`23:55.03`	`XenoX101`	`and when the buttons turned transparent all I could see was the white background`
`23:55.10`	`XenoX101`	`so for the past day and today I've been thinking`
`23:55.15`	`XenoX101`	`why is there a god damn white background there`
`23:55.27`	`XenoX101`	`when it was my template image all along showing behind it`
`23:55.30`	`XenoX101`	`god fucking damnit lol`
`23:57.01`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Lilianna (~Lilianna@adsl-75-15-125-49.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net)`
`23:57.46`	`RndmObjcts`	`any data people around?`

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