| 00:00.18 | Dustin | Lol |
| 00:00.19 | Dustin | Aight |
| 00:00.41 | Nash|327 | ILLOGICAL HUMANS :/ |
| 00:00.53 | Dustin | Hygenic humans |
| 00:01.01 | Xan | hehehehehe |
| 00:01.11 | Nash|327 | Washing is for hygiene. |
| 00:01.22 | Nash|327 | Anything beyond that is useless. |
| 00:01.36 | Dustin | lol |
| 00:01.38 | Xan | clothes are useless |
| 00:01.44 | Xan | why dont everyone just run around naked |
| 00:01.47 | Dustin | ^ |
| 00:01.55 | Nash|327 | Too cold. |
| 00:01.56 | Xan | whyy |
| 00:01.59 | Dustin | Why the fuck do we need clothes in the summer |
| 00:02.02 | Dustin | Waste of resources |
| 00:02.04 | Dustin | ILLOGICAL HUMANS |
| 00:02.13 | Nash|327 | Because of moronic puritanical norms. |
| 00:02.24 | Xan | waste of washing soap |
| 00:02.29 | Nash|327 | Thanks a lot, religion. |
| 00:02.35 | Xan | you are right! |
| 00:02.38 | Xan | bloody religion |
| 00:02.40 | Dustin | Why do we even grow hair |
| 00:02.46 | Dustin | Its more logical to shave our heads |
| 00:02.48 | Xan | also, why do men have nipples |
| 00:02.50 | Vailreth | and im back |
| 00:02.53 | Xan | its a mystery |
| 00:02.54 | Dustin | Yeah wtf |
| 00:03.04 | Dustin | Life is in-effecient with giving us nipples |
| 00:03.05 | Nash|327 | Shaving your head is not practical. |
| 00:03.11 | Dustin | So why the fuck should we be efficient |
| 00:03.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster SoulTaker916_ (~SoulTaker@c-24-6-14-83.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 00:03.21 | Dustin | Case closed. |
| 00:03.32 | Xan | why do we even need computers |
| 00:03.32 | Nash|327 | Appeal to nature? |
| 00:03.41 | Xan | too much electricity |
| 00:03.53 | Dustin | Yeah |
| 00:03.55 | Dustin | fuck electricity |
| 00:03.58 | Xan | better to live in the forest off the nature, nude |
| 00:04.04 | Dustin | All our shits gonan get whiped in a big solar flare anywat |
| 00:04.05 | Vailreth | um no heh |
| 00:04.06 | Nash|327 | You do that. |
| 00:04.21 | Vailreth | thats what ruggedization is for ... |
| 00:04.22 | Nash|327 | ENJOY YOUR AIDS |
| 00:04.24 | Dustin | All useless illogical human crap |
| 00:04.33 | Dustin | HOW DARE WE INVENT THINGS TO MAKE THINGS BETTER |
| 00:04.37 | Dustin | HOW DARE US |
| 00:04.41 | Dustin | USE RECORDS |
| 00:04.51 | Xan | use condoms |
| 00:04.59 | Vailreth | i want to see them prove the existance of the Higgs Boson |
| 00:05.00 | Nash|327 | I don't mind things to make things better. |
| 00:05.09 | Nash|327 | Just useless crap. |
| 00:05.16 | Xan | better is subjective |
| 00:05.17 | Dustin | Do you have a girlfriend |
| 00:05.18 | Dustin | ? |
| 00:05.22 | Nash|327 | Fuck no. |
| 00:05.29 | Dustin | You fuck chicks on the regular? |
| 00:05.37 | Nash|327 | ...no |
| 00:05.41 | *** join/#sc2mapster Griffenator (~IceChat7@78.147.31.2) |
| 00:05.43 | Dustin | That's what I thought |
| 00:05.44 | Vailreth | yeah Nash doesnt believe in having sex or dating |
| 00:05.45 | Dustin | You wouldnt understand. |
| 00:05.56 | Xan | We've had this conversation abotu 100 times with him already Dustin :D |
| 00:05.57 | Dustin | ARGUMENT IS NOW INVALID. |
| 00:06.02 | Dustin | lol |
| 00:06.11 | Xan | Or wait.. just 1, but still :) |
| 00:06.18 | Nash|327 | I understand that I don't have to be ingratiating and do a bunch of dumb shit to be appealing. |
| 00:06.37 | Dustin | Apparently so |
| 00:06.45 | Dustin | Cause you're not getting pussy on the reg |
| 00:06.48 | Dustin | Me? |
| 00:06.52 | Dustin | Every night |
| 00:06.56 | Dustin | And my hair is soft |
| 00:06.58 | Dustin | Coincidence? |
| 00:07.00 | Nash|327 | I am free from the tyranny of having to get laid. |
| 00:07.01 | Dustin | I think not. |
| 00:07.07 | Dustin | Lol tyranny? |
| 00:07.14 | Xan | procreating is a part of nature though, everyone can't be asexual or we cant evolve |
| 00:07.26 | Nash|327 | Think of all the shit people do to have sex. |
| 00:07.37 | Nash|327 | If you don't have to do those things... How liberating... |
| 00:07.50 | Dustin | Uhhh |
| 00:07.53 | Dustin | Then you dont have sex |
| 00:07.56 | Dustin | And that's no life |
| 00:08.04 | Nash|327 | It's an excellent life. |
| 00:08.10 | Dustin | That'd be like me never smoking weed in life |
| 00:08.12 | Dustin | Fuck that |
| 00:08.15 | Vailreth | but we have reached a point where sex is nolonger necesary to reproduce ... personally i never want to procreate EVER but i want da sexings of a lovely woman |
| 00:08.17 | Nash|327 | Sex is a non-essential biological function. |
| 00:08.26 | Dustin | LMAO WHAYT |
| 00:08.40 | Xan | how is it non essential if its for procreation? |
| 00:08.42 | Nash|327 | It is not important or particularly interesting. |
| 00:08.49 | Dustin | Did you just say that reproduction is non essential? |
| 00:08.57 | Nash|327 | Yes. |
| 00:08.59 | Dustin | Lmfao |
| 00:09.00 | Dustin | What |
| 00:09.07 | Dustin | How the fuck can you even think that |
| 00:09.10 | Nash|327 | I'm not gonna have fucking kids. |
| 00:09.14 | Nash|327 | I hate them. |
| 00:09.15 | Dustin | Let alone say that in a room with a bunch of people |
| 00:09.19 | Xan | what if no one had kids? |
| 00:09.26 | Dustin | You WERE a kid |
| 00:09.29 | Dustin | Get over it |
| 00:09.30 | Nash|327 | Well too bad for them? |
| 00:09.37 | Nash|327 | Don't care. |
| 00:09.38 | Vailreth | i dislike kids as well in fact |
| 00:09.42 | Nash|327 | I don't want any. |
| 00:09.42 | Dustin | Sounds more like you're lazy and selfish |
| 00:09.56 | Griffenator | Sex is fun. |
| 00:09.57 | Nash|327 | Like having kids isn't selfish. |
| 00:10.01 | Griffenator | QED. |
| 00:10.08 | Dustin | Waht? |
| 00:10.17 | Dustin | Do you even think before you type? |
| 00:10.27 | Griffenator | No. |
| 00:10.30 | Dustin | The shit poping up on my screen is making me doubt human inteligence |
| 00:10.32 | Xan | who |
| 00:10.33 | Jum-Jum | So you get kids for what? So you can fulfill your duty to the society? =P |
| 00:10.33 | Vailreth | no not often |
| 00:10.39 | Nash|327 | I AM DOING A GREAT DEED FOR THE BENEFIT OF HUMANITY BY PROCREATING, WHAT AN ALTRUISTIC PERSON I AM!!! |
| 00:11.07 | Xan | nash, what if you were one of the only people left on the planet? |
| 00:11.08 | Nash|327 | People have kids because they want kids, because they need to fill some void in their empty lives. |
| 00:11.09 | Dustin | You're creating life and a new mind that could someday change the way this whole race does shit |
| 00:11.15 | Dustin | Nah |
| 00:11.17 | Griffenator | Like Hitler did. |
| 00:11.23 | Nash|327 | And have no other accomplishment within grasp. |
| 00:11.24 | Dustin | You're just full of hate and misinformation |
| 00:11.27 | Vailreth | Dustin you are only NOW starting to doubt general human intelect? |
| 00:11.28 | Nash|327 | So they have kids. |
| 00:11.43 | Jum-Jum | me and my friend had a theory, which we pretty much set in stone right now |
| 00:11.46 | Dustin | It's been in the back of my mind, but god damn |
| 00:11.48 | Jum-Jum | That fat girls are the first to get kids |
| 00:11.50 | Jum-Jum | We were right |
| 00:11.53 | Nash|327 | And act like they're fucking special humanitarians who did something original and miraculous. |
| 00:11.55 | Dustin | I didnt think anyone was that egotistical and full of fail |
| 00:11.58 | Xan | Jum-Jum wtf? |
| 00:12.16 | Jum-Jum | Im not joking Xan, every girl we knew from school that was fat got kids as soon as they quit school |
| 00:12.16 | Griffenator | Really Dustin? |
| 00:12.20 | Griffenator | How niave. |
| 00:12.28 | Jum-Jum | It's a pattern we noticed lol |
| 00:12.31 | Xan | you knew that many fat girls? |
| 00:12.32 | Xan | ^^ |
| 00:12.42 | Jum-Jum | we didnt wear masks in school |
| 00:12.46 | Griffenator | How else would he get laid, Xan? |
| 00:12.47 | Nash|327 | People who have kids are egotistical. |
| 00:12.52 | Dustin | naive |
| 00:12.54 | Xan | rofl |
| 00:12.54 | Jum-Jum | And fat girls are bad at hiding |
| 00:13.15 | Dustin | [19:13] <Nash|327> People who have kids are egotistical. <-- you're an idiot. |
| 00:13.28 | Nash|327 | They want kids and FUCK THE CONSEQUENCES! |
| 00:13.30 | Dustin | Who lumps shit into nice little biscuits he can shit on |
| 00:13.43 | Griffenator | Surely being an idiot doesn't preclude him from taking part in a discussion on IRC? |
| 00:14.04 | Dustin | Who said it did? |
| 00:14.06 | Xan | he's no idiot, just have a different view of life |
| 00:14.09 | Nash|327 | Let him think whatever he likes. |
| 00:14.16 | Nash|327 | I know what I am. |
| 00:14.17 | Griffenator | No one, I was saying it rhetorically. |
| 00:14.20 | Nash|327 | Careface. |
| 00:14.28 | Dustin | Then why bring it up? |
| 00:14.54 | Griffenator | It's IRC. |
| 00:14.56 | Griffenator | We need a reason? |
| 00:14.59 | Xan | Jum-Jum not many fat girls here luckely |
| 00:15.13 | Griffenator | How do you get laid then Xan? |
| 00:15.25 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 00:15.29 | Xan | I have my looks |
| 00:15.32 | Xan | ^^ |
| 00:15.35 | Jum-Jum | I have money |
| 00:15.39 | Griffenator | Well, you need something to make up for your brain. |
| 00:15.42 | Dustin | The platform of the communication doesn't have any warrant on bringing up random shit for the hell of it in any case. |
| 00:15.53 | Xan | my brain works fine |
| 00:16.08 | Nash|327 | Free yourself from the tyranny of your sex drive. |
| 00:16.17 | Dustin | There is no tyranny |
| 00:16.18 | Xan | you should write that on a poster nash |
| 00:16.19 | Dustin | Just awesome sex |
| 00:16.36 | Xan | propaganda :D |
| 00:16.52 | Nash|327 | Ah, but there is. |
| 00:17.26 | Nash|327 | You have to be attractive, say the right things, act a certain way, go out and engage in bizarre social rituals etc. |
| 00:17.36 | Griffenator | No you don't. |
| 00:17.53 | Griffenator | Well, you do. |
| 00:17.54 | Nash|327 | But if you don't have sex, you can just not give a shit if someone finds you attractive or not. |
| 00:18.05 | Xan | there is a woman for everyone |
| 00:18.14 | Griffenator | But that's because you're a spiteful idiot with a personality to match. |
| 00:18.33 | Dustin | Sounds like an excuse for a hermit who looks worse then the shit he smells like to be honest. |
| 00:18.34 | Nash|327 | It doesn't matter, I don't need to think about it, worry about it, invest any time in it. |
| 00:18.52 | Nash|327 | I feel sorry for the rest of you. |
| 00:18.57 | Dustin | I feel sorry for you |
| 00:18.58 | Griffenator | We feel pity for you. |
| 00:19.00 | Griffenator | Well, we would. |
| 00:19.01 | Dustin | ^ |
| 00:19.06 | Griffenator | I don't actually, I'm too much of a bastard. |
| 00:19.13 | Dustin | I just dont give a fuck |
| 00:19.18 | Griffenator | So I'm just going to take pleasure from laughing at your sad lonely life. |
| 00:19.24 | Dustin | This ^ |
| 00:19.26 | Nash|327 | You do that. |
| 00:19.29 | Dustin | Speaking of that |
| 00:19.47 | Dustin | Im off to go smoke some hookah with my hot girlfriend and socialize and probably smoke some weed |
| 00:19.50 | Dustin | So have fun |
| 00:19.55 | Griffenator | lol |
| 00:19.57 | Griffenator | enjoy |
| 00:20.00 | Xan | well this was an interesting turn of events |
| 00:20.05 | Xan | now lets move on |
| 00:20.05 | Xan | ^^ |
| 00:20.31 | Nash|327 | Bah. |
| 00:20.47 | Xan | it wasnt really |
| 00:20.54 | Xan | last discussion was basically the same |
| 00:21.31 | Jum-Jum | Talk about feeling insulted if they get that upset, you might just be right Nash|327. |
| 00:21.45 | Nash|327 | Hmm? |
| 00:21.59 | Jum-Jum | Everything you say is pretty much responded with "idiot" or "dont care" |
| 00:22.09 | Nash|327 | I'm used to it. |
| 00:22.14 | Jum-Jum | :E |
| 00:22.22 | Nash|327 | People fail to understand that I think my way is better. |
| 00:22.26 | Xan | I find it intruiging how people say they dont care, but they certainly try their best to insult someone who thinks differently |
| 00:22.31 | Jum-Jum | I had the same thoughts the entire time |
| 00:22.38 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ashamed (43be33f7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.190.51.247) |
| 00:22.39 | Nash|327 | And that what they say isn't really going to affect me. |
| 00:22.40 | HP-X|Arthas | sc2 lan, 1 year to late! |
| 00:22.45 | Jum-Jum | I mean, before you even started this conversation |
| 00:22.47 | Ashamed | oh i heards this |
| 00:22.47 | Ashamed | arthas |
| 00:22.52 | Dustin | SC2 lan?1 |
| 00:22.54 | HP-X|Arthas | It seems legit though |
| 00:22.55 | Ashamed | have you tried it? |
| 00:22.59 | HP-X|Arthas | Yeah, chinese pirate server |
| 00:23.04 | Dustin | Ohhh snap |
| 00:23.04 | Ashamed | i knew it |
| 00:23.07 | HP-X|Arthas | Not enough hdd space atm |
| 00:23.20 | Jum-Jum | its not a pirate server |
| 00:23.21 | HP-X|Arthas | going to play action filled maps w/o latency this summer, thats for sure :p |
| 00:23.26 | Jum-Jum | Its just a server hosted locally on your computer |
| 00:23.34 | Nash|327 | How is it LAN if it's in China? |
| 00:23.35 | Jum-Jum | that works in LAN |
| 00:23.39 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 00:23.40 | Dustin | Where's this shit at? |
| 00:23.45 | HP-X|Arthas | darkblizz |
| 00:23.46 | Jum-Jum | Because you need the chinese client |
| 00:23.51 | Jum-Jum | It doesn't work on the others yet |
| 00:23.57 | Dustin | OH lame |
| 00:23.58 | HP-X|Arthas | Jum-Jum: same shit |
| 00:24.22 | HP-X|Arthas | a step in the right direction *me waits for english* |
| 00:24.23 | Jum-Jum | no its not :| |
| 00:24.33 | HP-X|Arthas | Jum-Jum: |
| 00:24.45 | HP-X|Arthas | what is the correct definition then :p |
| 00:24.47 | Jum-Jum | It's not like PvPGN a server available for everyone online |
| 00:24.55 | HP-X|Arthas | its still a server |
| 00:25.00 | HP-X|Arthas | and it allows for piracy. thus pirate server! |
| 00:25.03 | Jum-Jum | but not a pirate server |
| 00:25.05 | Jum-Jum | meh |
| 00:25.06 | HP-X|Arthas | even if locked down to lan |
| 00:25.07 | Jum-Jum | then SC1 is a pirate game |
| 00:25.12 | Jum-Jum | because it allows LAN and it allows piracy! |
| 00:25.22 | HP-X|Arthas | I wont argue there! :p |
| 00:25.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster Wiz10011 (435412f5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.84.18.245) |
| 00:25.33 | Wiz10011 | Hello |
| 00:25.35 | Nash|327 | SC1 is a sci-fi game. |
| 00:25.37 | HP-X|Arthas | that space pirate raynor will get what he deserves! |
| 00:25.38 | Nash|327 | Don't be silly. |
| 00:26.02 | Wiz10011 | what's up? |
| 00:26.16 | HP-X|Arthas | Nash|327: sci-fi pirate game? =( |
| 00:26.25 | Nash|327 | Pirate LANs and people getting pissed off. |
| 00:26.26 | HP-X|Arthas | Wiz10011: not much, not much at all :p |
| 00:26.31 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 00:26.41 | HP-X|Arthas | oh and hey dustin :D |
| 00:26.58 | Nash|327 | Well, mainly pirate LANs now. |
| 00:27.01 | Wiz10011 | that;s always fun HP-X|Arthas.. |
| 00:27.24 | HP-X|Arthas | although pirate lan is what im after kinda :p |
| 00:27.34 | HP-X|Arthas | if i wanna play online i just use bnet ^^ |
| 00:27.40 | HP-X|Arthas | also, I suck with zerg! |
| 00:27.45 | Dustin | Sup :D |
| 00:27.49 | HP-X|Arthas | anyone wanna go for a game? =) |
| 00:27.58 | HP-X|Arthas | melee, or element or whatever ^^ |
| 00:28.05 | Nash|327 | D; |
| 00:28.12 | Dustin | I would, but im headed out in a min |
| 00:28.29 | HP-X|Arthas | ah, ok |
| 00:28.31 | HP-X|Arthas | Nash|327: ? |
| 00:28.35 | HP-X|Arthas | more testing |
| 00:28.52 | Nash|327 | Not much to test. |
| 00:29.02 | Nash|327 | I added a store. |
| 00:29.03 | HP-X|Arthas | release soon? |
| 00:29.12 | Nash|327 | Well maybe. |
| 00:29.18 | Nash|327 | I need to make... |
| 00:29.21 | Nash|327 | 5 bosses. |
| 00:29.25 | Xan | nash, if a woman said she was interested in you, what would you do? |
| 00:29.28 | Xan | just curious |
| 00:29.30 | Jum-Jum | its only max 4 players so far HP-X|Arthas |
| 00:29.31 | Jum-Jum | dont know why |
| 00:29.40 | HP-X|Arthas | Xan she wants his money |
| 00:29.46 | HP-X|Arthas | He should run |
| 00:29.48 | Nash|327 | Hang out with her, if it was a decent person. |
| 00:29.49 | HP-X|Arthas | or take her down |
| 00:30.02 | Xan | what if she wanted to get more intimate? |
| 00:30.05 | HP-X|Arthas | Jum-Jum: the lan thingie? |
| 00:30.09 | Xan | after a few weeks of hanging out |
| 00:30.10 | Jum-Jum | yea |
| 00:30.22 | HP-X|Arthas | ah |
| 00:30.37 | Nash|327 | I'm not anti-sex but I don't really care for it either. |
| 00:30.52 | Xan | so you'd do? |
| 00:31.02 | Nash|327 | And I wouldn't initiate a sexual relationship that I really am not interested in. |
| 00:31.06 | Nash|327 | That's not fair. |
| 00:31.11 | Xan | ok all I wanted to know |
| 00:31.26 | HP-X|Arthas | good, now can we game some? |
| 00:31.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster Birdie_ (~Birdie@ip-210-185-11-40.internet.co.nz) |
| 00:31.33 | HP-X|Arthas | i dont wanna go solo |
| 00:31.33 | Xan | ^^ |
| 00:31.37 | Nash|327 | D: |
| 00:31.43 | Nash|327 | play what!? |
| 00:31.48 | HP-X|Arthas | me and uhm |
| 00:31.52 | HP-X|Arthas | xan vs you and Jum-Jum |
| 00:31.59 | Xan | I suck |
| 00:31.59 | Jum-Jum | I dont have it |
| 00:32.02 | Nash|327 | Melee? |
| 00:32.03 | HP-X|Arthas | 20m no rush |
| 00:32.06 | Nash|327 | Ew. |
| 00:32.08 | Xan | no rules |
| 00:32.09 | Jum-Jum | or do you mean on b.net? |
| 00:32.09 | Xan | gogo |
| 00:32.15 | HP-X|Arthas | Jum-Jum: yeah |
| 00:32.24 | Nash|327 | Melee is bad :/ |
| 00:32.27 | Jum-Jum | mkay |
| 00:32.30 | Nash|327 | YAYA MOAR APMS |
| 00:32.32 | Xan | nash, come on |
| 00:32.32 | Xan | :P |
| 00:32.38 | Nash|327 | I hate multi-tasking. |
| 00:32.43 | Jum-Jum | :E |
| 00:32.50 | Nash|327 | My brain is not designed for it. |
| 00:33.10 | HP-X|Arthas | aight im in sc2mapster channel waitin |
| 00:33.19 | Nash|327 | I demand kittuns. |
| 00:33.20 | Xan | nash, just one, plx |
| 00:33.21 | Xan | :D |
| 00:36.32 | *** join/#sc2mapster Birdie_ (~Birdie@ip-210-185-11-40.internet.co.nz) |
| 00:36.35 | HP-X|Arthas | Jum-Jum: |
| 00:36.37 | HP-X|Arthas | coming? |
| 00:37.29 | Ashamed | im a noob |
| 00:37.37 | HP-X|Arthas | Ashamed: eu? |
| 00:37.39 | HP-X|Arthas | if so join in |
| 00:37.41 | HP-X|Arthas | we are all noobs |
| 00:38.00 | Ashamed | yes arthas you be biggest noob of all |
| 00:38.15 | HP-X|Arthas | Ashamed: JOIN IN |
| 00:38.18 | Ashamed | this was my wife >< |
| 00:38.19 | HP-X|Arthas | stop playing that us copy of yours |
| 00:38.25 | Ashamed | you guys get that chinese server up? |
| 00:38.29 | Ashamed | noo |
| 00:38.32 | HP-X|Arthas | no we playing bnet |
| 00:38.42 | Ashamed | i am not eu :( |
| 00:38.44 | Ashamed | you know this |
| 00:38.49 | Birdie_ | Y U NO EU |
| 00:39.32 | Ashamed | cause America blows and we cant even afford to save enough $$ to move out of this fucking stupid country! even hough my wife and I work 40 hours a week... FUCK AMERICA |
| 00:40.14 | Vailreth | if any one is up for a total conversion mod for SC2 i propose a TMNT RTS |
| 00:40.32 | Vailreth | its all the replublicans fault |
| 00:40.37 | Ashamed | OMFG TMNT RTS |
| 00:40.46 | Ashamed | yeah fuck republicans |
| 00:40.46 | Vailreth | the last line was a gag |
| 00:40.49 | Vailreth | or not |
| 00:41.16 | Vailreth | >.> |
| 00:41.22 | Vailreth | >o> |
| 00:41.29 | Ashamed | -. |
| 00:41.36 | Ashamed | > _ < |
| 00:41.57 | Vailreth | but wouldnt it be so epic to have an army of ninja turtles fighting an army of ninja robots... |
| 00:42.04 | Ashamed | so fucking epic |
| 00:42.17 | Ashamed | if i could model i would make all kinds of ninja turtles |
| 00:42.19 | Vailreth | and turtle themed mech units. |
| 00:42.41 | Vailreth | id so data edit for that |
| 00:44.56 | Vailreth | i just found out a TMNT toy i had as a child is now a UBER rare collectors item |
| 00:45.24 | Ashamed | i can so do galexy.. because god knows i can write the code faster/better then the GUI |
| 00:45.41 | Ashamed | galaxy* |
| 00:50.41 | Vailreth | i see |
| 00:51.10 | Vailreth | i had so many toys as kid that turned out to be collectors items ... |
| 00:51.16 | Vailreth | and i played with them todeath |
| 00:51.44 | Vailreth | now im kicking my self in the ass for ever opening the boxes |
| 01:10.01 | Ashamed | well duh |
| 01:10.04 | Ashamed | but you did the right thing |
| 01:10.07 | Ashamed | good job at being a fucking kid |
| 01:13.40 | Vailreth | heh |
| 01:14.07 | Vailreth | i have been having an issue of late where after i test play a mod i cant save it any more |
| 01:14.22 | Vailreth | well i have to save as to save it as a new file |
| 01:14.53 | Vailreth | then close the editor and reopen it and save the new file over the old file |
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| 01:44.59 | Xan | hiiii |
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| 01:50.03 | Ashamed | ahhh mother fuckers? |
| 01:53.40 | Mephs | ahhh. |
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| 01:56.31 | Vailreth | ahhh? |
| 01:58.39 | Ashamed | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.59 | Vailreth | you just found paper towels? |
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| 03:24.43 | mpaman | ashamed |
| 03:24.59 | mpaman | you know they put global stats in maps |
| 03:25.09 | Ashamed | cool |
| 03:25.10 | mpaman | like top 10 players in the whole server |
| 03:25.14 | mpaman | ? |
| 03:25.30 | Ashamed | why are you telling me this information? |
| 03:25.32 | mpaman | since bank is stored on pc I dont see how to do that |
| 03:25.44 | Ashamed | oh blizzard prob controls this |
| 03:25.47 | Ashamed | on their server |
| 03:25.49 | mpaman | unless you make some sort of viral information spread |
| 03:26.04 | mpaman | so how do you store info on blizz server? |
| 03:26.11 | mpaman | o.0 |
| 03:27.01 | mpaman | o well |
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| 03:55.35 | tordy | hello there |
| 04:04.47 | mpaman | sup |
| 04:05.06 | mpaman | this IRC is DEAD |
| 04:08.10 | tordy | nop |
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| 04:10.39 | mpaman | all right tordy |
| 04:10.43 | mpaman | then can you explain |
| 04:11.05 | mpaman | how no one here knows how the hell general stats are stored |
| 04:11.20 | tordy | what you mean by general stats |
| 04:11.28 | mpaman | like |
| 04:11.31 | mpaman | top 10 players |
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| 04:11.34 | mpaman | on the whole server |
| 04:11.43 | tordy | cuz it aint possible |
| 04:11.45 | mpaman | is it stored on blizz servers? |
| 04:11.53 | mpaman | it is in several maps bro |
| 04:12.00 | mpaman | so it has to be possible |
| 04:12.02 | tordy | those aren't really "top" players |
| 04:12.04 | tordy | rather |
| 04:12.10 | tordy | they were locally top players |
| 04:12.12 | tordy | that players encountered |
| 04:12.23 | mpaman | viral spread>? |
| 04:12.26 | tordy | yup |
| 04:12.31 | mpaman | o i c i c |
| 04:12.45 | tordy | since the only information us mappers can store is data in the client's banks, which are stored on their local computers |
| 04:12.51 | mpaman | you know where I can find some info on that? |
| 04:12.58 | Jum-Jum | you cant do that mpaman |
| 04:13.00 | mpaman | yea thats what i though |
| 04:13.02 | mpaman | thoguht |
| 04:13.04 | Jum-Jum | :( |
| 04:13.11 | mpaman | cant do what |
| 04:13.15 | mpaman | :L |
| 04:13.17 | Jum-Jum | have a global bank |
| 04:13.20 | tordy | let Jum-Jum explain im too lazy |
| 04:13.28 | Jum-Jum | its can only be locally saved |
| 04:13.42 | mpaman | oh yea...thats a bit lame, the required bandwidth for blizzard to allow it would be insignificant |
| 04:13.58 | Jum-Jum | yeah |
| 04:14.06 | mpaman | the whole server would have 1gb of data max |
| 04:14.14 | mpaman | a 1995 computer could handle it |
| 04:14.14 | Jum-Jum | they actually said that mappers could have like a global leaderboard thing |
| 04:14.18 | Jum-Jum | then the game got released |
| 04:14.26 | tordy | and we didnt :( |
| 04:14.27 | Jum-Jum | and that just became one of the many million things they said they would do |
| 04:14.30 | Jum-Jum | but never happened |
| 04:14.36 | mpaman | o i see |
| 04:14.38 | mpaman | :3 |
| 04:14.41 | Jum-Jum | what really pisses me off |
| 04:14.42 | mpaman | sucks |
| 04:14.45 | Jum-Jum | is that you cant link maps |
| 04:14.47 | tordy | actually let's estimate how large it could be |
| 04:14.47 | Jum-Jum | have campaigns |
| 04:14.51 | Jum-Jum | even tho they said so so many times |
| 04:15.17 | mpaman | eh |
| 04:15.24 | tordy | let's say average bank is 1KB |
| 04:15.27 | mpaman | they could make this whole game so much better |
| 04:15.32 | mpaman | lets hope for hots |
| 04:15.56 | tordy | 10k players for a single popular map = 10MB |
| 04:16.02 | mpaman | not the whole bank, just like vital info. bu thte whole bank would be nice too |
| 04:16.06 | mpaman | it would avoid cheaters |
| 04:16.08 | tordy | there's like 20 of em that can sustain at least 10k players |
| 04:16.40 | mpaman | 200MB |
| 04:16.49 | mpaman | OMG THATS TOO EXPENSIVE |
| 04:16.57 | mpaman | they would have to buy a fucking usb key to store it |
| 04:16.58 | mpaman | :D |
| 04:17.08 | tordy | but it could potentialy grow a lot more |
| 04:17.14 | tordy | if you include other factors |
| 04:17.16 | mpaman | or just a fucking ti-82 caculator |
| 04:17.17 | mpaman | LOL |
| 04:17.27 | tordy | popular maps cycle about |
| 04:17.40 | tordy | old banks not deleting themselves |
| 04:17.42 | tordy | iunno |
| 04:17.43 | mpaman | yea well |
| 04:17.53 | mpaman | still it would rly not be hard for them |
| 04:17.54 | Jum-Jum | a lot of maps |
| 04:17.56 | Jum-Jum | a lot of users |
| 04:17.59 | Jum-Jum | a lot of mb :E |
| 04:18.00 | tordy | maybe blizz might delete banks that havent been accessed after a couple weeks |
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| 04:18.18 | mpaman | so any of you knows where I can find some info on the viral data spread? |
| 04:18.23 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLqZDBzB84Y |
| 04:18.24 | Bounty | Enjoy |
| 04:18.30 | Bounty | first gameplay footage |
| 04:18.32 | mpaman | Id have to have every player to store each other lpayers score |
| 04:18.43 | mpaman | plus the scores that these players have stored |
| 04:18.46 | mpaman | o.0 |
| 04:18.46 | tordy | not every other, that would be too much |
| 04:18.54 | tordy | you gonna have to remove old ones |
| 04:19.03 | tordy | since a single bank has limits |
| 04:19.08 | mpaman | o rly |
| 04:19.13 | mpaman | how much? |
| 04:19.14 | tordy | forgot what it was |
| 04:19.54 | mpaman | then I guess the best would be to save the like top 10 players that every players in the game has stored |
| 04:19.58 | tordy | yea |
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| 04:20.17 | tordy | but hackers could easily ruin top 10s |
| 04:20.18 | mpaman | and save the top ten of that |
| 04:20.23 | mpaman | yea thats the thing.. |
| 04:20.29 | mpaman | id have to encrypt it |
| 04:20.30 | tordy | remember rodrigo's top 3 lists? |
| 04:20.36 | mpaman | that sounds like a lot of pain |
| 04:20.36 | tordy | rodrigo encrypted it like crazy |
| 04:20.40 | mpaman | o rly |
| 04:20.42 | tordy | and it still gets hacked |
| 04:20.47 | mpaman | wow lol |
| 04:21.03 | tordy | the top names were like I AM <hacker's username>, RODRIGO STINKS or something |
| 04:21.09 | tordy | was pretty funny |
| 04:21.11 | mpaman | I guess I could make a huge equation |
| 04:21.23 | mpaman | for each string |
| 04:21.28 | tordy | i personally think it's not worth the time |
| 04:21.30 | mpaman | linked to an integer |
| 04:21.45 | mpaman | lol |
| 04:21.45 | tordy | no matter how complicated you can make it, a single dedicated hacker could ruin every thing |
| 04:21.58 | mpaman | yea |
| 04:21.59 | mpaman | but |
| 04:22.01 | tordy | since the source code can easily be read |
| 04:22.07 | tordy | even if you obfuscated like crazy |
| 04:22.15 | tordy | it'll only delay the hacker a lil bit |
| 04:22.31 | mpaman | im guessing that if you read a bit about cryptography you could find fairly simple ways of getting a robust encryption |
| 04:22.53 | tordy | main problem is everyone has easy access to the source |
| 04:23.05 | tordy | so matter how robust the encryption, it's gonna be hard to stop |
| 04:23.10 | mpaman | yea the thing is if they hack your triggers then they get your encryption key lol |
| 04:23.50 | tordy | if only blizzard would encrypt locked maps |
| 04:23.51 | tordy | maybe |
| 04:24.03 | tordy | but atm, lock maps are stored in every player's cache |
| 04:24.07 | mpaman | if someone hacks it how do you ban a user |
| 04:24.20 | tordy | cant ban |
| 04:24.29 | mpaman | just defeat him when game starts? |
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| 04:24.41 | tordy | you'll be storing the ban in his bank |
| 04:24.47 | tordy | all he has to do is delete the bank |
| 04:24.48 | mpaman | o wait |
| 04:24.55 | mpaman | you cant convert text to string.. |
| 04:24.59 | tordy | that too |
| 04:25.03 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLqZDBzB84Y <--Next Page 1 Map |
| 04:25.06 | tordy | so damn limited x_x |
| 04:25.15 | mpaman | yea rly.. |
| 04:25.30 | mpaman | but |
| 04:25.44 | mpaman | when I won bunker wars tournament |
| 04:25.56 | mpaman | the maker gave me kick ability for 1 week |
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| 04:26.09 | mpaman | I just typed -kick "player number" |
| 04:26.18 | mpaman | and it only worked if it was me |
| 04:26.29 | mpaman | I wonder how he did that |
| 04:26.53 | tordy | stored it in the bank |
| 04:27.11 | mpaman | stored what |
| 04:27.16 | tordy | what map is this i can take a look at how he did and duplicate the bank so everyone can have kick powers (no i wont do that biut i could :p) |
| 04:27.36 | mpaman | its bunker wars choices by vanished |
| 04:27.43 | mpaman | pretty cool map |
| 04:27.47 | tordy | is it un NA? |
| 04:27.50 | mpaman | yea |
| 04:27.56 | mpaman | I was a top plpayer |
| 04:27.57 | mpaman | won tournaments |
| 04:28.02 | mpaman | people feared me |
| 04:28.04 | mpaman | lol |
| 04:28.11 | Bounty | bunker wars is shit compared to that map i just linked |
| 04:28.13 | Bounty | in the video |
| 04:28.23 | mpaman | OK WE GET IT BOUNTY |
| 04:28.30 | Bounty | NO YEW DUNT |
| 04:28.35 | mpaman | i clicked it |
| 04:28.37 | mpaman | happy now? |
| 04:28.45 | Bounty | nope, but i know you are |
| 04:28.46 | Bounty | =P |
| 04:29.03 | mpaman | :P |
| 04:29.47 | tordy | have you seen this cod4 mod galactic warfare? |
| 04:29.52 | tordy | looks pretty sweet for a mod |
| 04:29.58 | tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dToRs1Jmg08 |
| 04:30.31 | mpaman | mmm actually impressive bounty |
| 04:30.36 | Bounty | =P |
| 04:30.53 | mpaman | first sc2 fps/tps that actually looks fun |
| 04:31.06 | Bounty | i pwned everyone with zealot |
| 04:31.10 | Bounty | i had the dream team |
| 04:31.14 | Bounty | it was 3v4 and we won >< |
| 04:31.18 | mpaman | what server is it onw |
| 04:31.26 | Bounty | US, but its closed beta |
| 04:31.31 | Bounty | i dont know if you saw |
| 04:31.38 | Bounty | but there are alot of open class slots :) |
| 04:31.45 | Bounty | ill prolly make it open beta in a few days |
| 04:32.02 | tordy | where's battlefield egypt 1 |
| 04:32.18 | Bounty | its not uploaded nemore |
| 04:32.23 | tordy | :[ |
| 04:32.31 | Bounty | no worries |
| 04:32.37 | Bounty | 10/10 people that played the first |
| 04:32.41 | Bounty | said this is 1000x better |
| 04:32.42 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:32.55 | mpaman | whats the map name |
| 04:32.56 | Bounty | i mean cmon |
| 04:32.59 | Bounty | you can feign death |
| 04:32.59 | Bounty | as tychus |
| 04:33.03 | Bounty | what more do you want |
| 04:33.13 | Bounty | Battlefield Egypt II |
| 04:33.22 | Bounty | but its private atm, not public |
| 04:33.31 | Bounty | only i can host it, until i launch it publicly |
| 04:35.04 | mpaman | cool |
| 04:35.17 | mpaman | it might be the first shooter to get popular |
| 04:36.05 | Bounty | should be |
| 04:36.10 | Bounty | havent gotten any lag complaitns at all |
| 04:36.27 | Bounty | i mean the video makes it clear |
| 04:36.27 | mpaman | yea looks fluid |
| 04:36.33 | Bounty | even with lots of ppl |
| 04:36.43 | Bounty | im able to navigate interior and aim fine |
| 04:36.44 | mpaman | how long did it take |
| 04:36.46 | mpaman | to make |
| 04:36.49 | Bounty | couple days |
| 04:36.54 | mpaman | o.0 |
| 04:36.58 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:37.04 | mpaman | you pro bro |
| 04:37.11 | Bounty | i used to release a map per week |
| 04:37.15 | Bounty | when sc2 first came out >< |
| 04:37.17 | mpaman | o.0 |
| 04:37.26 | mpaman | but |
| 04:37.28 | mpaman | seriously |
| 04:37.29 | mpaman | how many months |
| 04:37.31 | mpaman | did it take? |
| 04:37.57 | tordy | he's experienced with these, so it's no surprise he can do it quickly :] |
| 04:38.05 | mpaman | o.o |
| 04:38.09 | mpaman | o well |
| 04:38.09 | Bounty | to make battlefield egypt II? |
| 04:38.12 | mpaman | I guess i suck |
| 04:38.14 | Bounty | seriously |
| 04:38.14 | Bounty | a few days |
| 04:38.19 | Bounty | i mean i started it about a week ago |
| 04:38.24 | mpaman | wo |
| 04:38.25 | Bounty | but ive only worked on it for 3 days |
| 04:38.50 | mpaman | I been on my map for like 3 weeks |
| 04:38.52 | Bounty | honestly the only hard part is the control point system lol |
| 04:39.02 | mpaman | and its just starting to be fun |
| 04:39.03 | Bounty | bc its based on whoever has more players at the point |
| 04:39.28 | A1win | how's that hard :E |
| 04:39.38 | Bounty | idk it was a pain in the ass for me |
| 04:39.38 | mpaman | did I mention I inserted an Elo ranking system? |
| 04:39.50 | Bounty | unit enters region wasnt working |
| 04:39.56 | Bounty | bc if a unit died in the region |
| 04:40.00 | Bounty | it would still count him as being there |
| 04:40.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:40.19 | tordy | damn regions |
| 04:40.24 | Bounty | yeah |
| 04:40.26 | Bounty | you would think |
| 04:40.32 | Bounty | dieng would trigger "Unit Leaves Region" |
| 04:40.34 | Bounty | but nope |
| 04:40.34 | Bounty | >< |
| 04:40.38 | A1win | I'd have just counted the units every time you wanted to check them |
| 04:40.44 | Bounty | thats what i do |
| 04:40.51 | Bounty | in the video you see each point has a timer |
| 04:40.56 | Bounty | when that timer hits 0 |
| 04:40.58 | Bounty | it checks |
| 04:41.10 | Bounty | if nobody is there, nobody controls it |
| 04:41.12 | Bounty | etc |
| 04:41.23 | tordy | I can see clearly now! |
| 04:42.06 | tordy | did someone say ELO |
| 04:42.08 | Bounty | only thing i dont like about the video is that i didnt get any footage of the zombies at night |
| 04:42.12 | Bounty | they died to fast lol |
| 04:44.39 | tordy | mapman where did you insert the elo ranking system |
| 04:44.58 | tordy | >;] |
| 04:54.07 | mpaman | tordy, in my map |
| 04:54.16 | tordy | ok |
| 04:54.27 | Dustin | Sup bitches |
| 04:54.30 | mpaman | k fator of 28 |
| 04:54.37 | mpaman | starting tating of 2000 |
| 04:54.38 | tordy | i put an elo rating system in my map too, but |
| 04:54.43 | mpaman | o rly |
| 04:54.44 | tordy | poops |
| 04:54.46 | tordy | yea |
| 04:54.49 | mpaman | doesnt work? |
| 04:54.53 | Bounty | You wanna know whats up Dustin |
| 04:54.55 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLqZDBzB84Y |
| 04:54.56 | Bounty | That |
| 04:54.59 | Bounty | lolol |
| 04:55.01 | mpaman | lol |
| 04:55.04 | Dustin | This better be boobs |
| 04:55.08 | mpaman | bounty you trollin brah |
| 04:55.12 | Bounty | nah |
| 04:55.15 | Bounty | i be promotin |
| 04:55.17 | tordy | well it doesn't work as intended since Elo ratings work best if you can get matchups |
| 04:55.18 | Bounty | >< |
| 04:55.26 | tordy | in bnet, you only play w/ randoms |
| 04:55.30 | Dustin | TPS huh |
| 04:55.33 | tordy | unless you're constantly in party |
| 04:55.36 | Dustin | Hows that play with the lage? |
| 04:55.38 | Dustin | lag |
| 04:55.40 | tordy | but that requires setup |
| 04:55.41 | mpaman | I dont get what you mean |
| 04:55.43 | Bounty | watch the video dustin, ull see |
| 04:55.45 | Bounty | there are 7 players |
| 04:55.50 | Bounty | in that game |
| 04:55.52 | Bounty | =P |
| 04:55.54 | tordy | matchmaking system |
| 04:55.59 | tordy | match high rating players vs high rating players |
| 04:56.00 | mpaman | what type of elo did you try to put/ |
| 04:56.05 | Dustin | Wait didnt I play this with you |
| 04:56.07 | mpaman | yea |
| 04:56.11 | mpaman | but thats ladder? |
| 04:56.15 | tordy | somewhat |
| 04:56.17 | mpaman | whats your map |
| 04:56.45 | tordy | bunker....................... |
| 04:56.48 | Dustin | That actually looks pretty palyable Bounty |
| 04:56.52 | Dustin | Ima try it tomorrow |
| 04:56.54 | Bounty | very playable |
| 04:56.56 | Bounty | its not live yet =P |
| 04:56.59 | tordy | can i try :( |
| 04:57.00 | Dustin | damnuit |
| 04:57.02 | Bounty | only i can host |
| 04:57.07 | Dustin | Well Im gonna make you host it tomorrow :p |
| 04:57.08 | tordy | host one now!!! >:) |
| 04:57.15 | Bounty | ok |
| 04:57.16 | mpaman | what bunker? |
| 04:57.18 | mpaman | bunker wars? |
| 04:57.19 | tordy | actually not now |
| 04:57.23 | Bounty | ok |
| 04:57.24 | Bounty | lolol |
| 04:57.40 | Bounty | all i gotta do before i can launch it is somehow describe to the players wtf to do |
| 04:57.43 | Bounty | and the controls |
| 04:57.50 | Bounty | i wanna just put it on the loading screen but |
| 04:57.50 | tordy | starting rating of 1000, k-factor of 32 |
| 04:57.52 | Bounty | well, you know |
| 04:57.57 | Bounty | bnet players cant read |
| 04:57.58 | mpaman | ok |
| 04:58.02 | mpaman | 1000 is rly low btw |
| 04:58.05 | tordy | yea it is |
| 04:58.06 | tordy | but oh well |
| 04:58.09 | tordy | it's not that serious |
| 04:58.16 | mpaman | starcraft proleague is 2000 |
| 04:58.25 | mpaman | but |
| 04:58.27 | mpaman | whats your map |
| 04:58.29 | mpaman | bunker wars? |
| 04:58.36 | tordy | maybe :p |
| 04:58.40 | mpaman | its a secret? |
| 04:58.43 | tordy | not really |
| 04:58.46 | mpaman | I like secrets :D |
| 04:58.53 | mpaman | is it published? |
| 04:58.55 | tordy | if only Bounty says it's ok |
| 04:59.04 | Bounty | huh? |
| 04:59.07 | tordy | welp *runs* |
| 04:59.38 | mpaman | I dont see how you can put an elo in bunkerwars |
| 04:59.39 | Bounty | what did i miss? i was fapping to the video of my map |
| 04:59.40 | mpaman | :/ |
| 04:59.45 | tordy | anyway i set it to as low as 1000 to handle 2v1 situations |
| 04:59.47 | mpaman | rofl bounty |
| 04:59.49 | Reactorex | Bounty: nub. :D |
| 04:59.58 | tordy | so a rating of 2000 can approx beat 2 |
| 05:00.02 | tordy | w/ a rating of 1000 |
| 05:00.05 | tordy | and it worked quite well |
| 05:00.06 | mpaman | ah |
| 05:00.07 | Bounty | >< |
| 05:00.14 | Reactorex | Fap to your map while playing with your left hand. |
| 05:00.17 | Reactorex | Much more pro that way. |
| 05:00.22 | Bounty | cant |
| 05:00.24 | Bounty | im left handed |
| 05:00.32 | Reactorex | can't fap right-handed? XD |
| 05:00.33 | mpaman | or fap with left hand and play with right? |
| 05:00.36 | Bounty | nah |
| 05:00.40 | tordy | at 2100-2400, k-factor drops to 24 |
| 05:00.43 | Reactorex | Then fap with left and play with right xP |
| 05:00.46 | Bounty | im REALLY left handed |
| 05:00.46 | mpaman | o rly |
| 05:00.49 | tordy | 2400-2700 to 16 |
| 05:00.52 | tordy | 3700+ to 12 |
| 05:00.55 | tordy | 2700* |
| 05:00.55 | Bounty | my right hand is useless |
| 05:00.58 | Reactorex | heh, the nub you shall be for eternity. |
| 05:00.59 | mpaman | I didnt bother trying to put two kfactors |
| 05:01.05 | mpaman | I should though |
| 05:01.07 | tordy | i put icons and everything |
| 05:01.09 | Reactorex | Bounty: Which hand do you use for the mouse? |
| 05:01.16 | Bounty | right |
| 05:01.19 | tordy | so it gives people an incentive to get new icons ;3 |
| 05:01.19 | Bounty | for some reason |
| 05:01.22 | Bounty | i use my right hand |
| 05:01.24 | mpaman | but bro |
| 05:01.25 | Bounty | figure that out |
| 05:01.26 | Reactorex | So it's not useless. |
| 05:01.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:01.31 | Bounty | true |
| 05:01.32 | Reactorex | It's your mousehand. :D |
| 05:01.32 | mpaman | if you tell me what your map is |
| 05:01.34 | Bounty | i guess its not |
| 05:01.35 | mpaman | ill go try it |
| 05:01.40 | mpaman | :) |
| 05:01.41 | Reactorex | Which hand do you hold your fork in? |
| 05:01.43 | tordy | i need to fix a few things first |
| 05:01.45 | Bounty | left |
| 05:01.58 | tordy | somethin's borked |
| 05:02.00 | Bounty | i only use my right hand for my mouse and finger banging hoes |
| 05:02.01 | Reactorex | Which hand do you hold your girlfriend in? :) |
| 05:02.16 | Bounty | hold? |
| 05:02.27 | Bounty | we've been together to long and have a kid |
| 05:02.29 | Bounty | we dont hold |
| 05:02.31 | Bounty | lolol |
| 05:02.41 | mpaman | I just noticed I made a typo while entering my name |
| 05:02.45 | Reactorex | Alright, then your wife. :P |
| 05:02.52 | Bounty | left |
| 05:02.54 | tordy | highest legitimate ratings in my map are like 2700 |
| 05:03.03 | Reactorex | Alright, your hand is almost entirely useless. xD |
| 05:03.03 | tordy | since they play a LOT |
| 05:03.16 | Bounty | like i said |
| 05:03.20 | tordy | then there are hackers that hack their rating to like 9999 :[ |
| 05:03.23 | Reactorex | But not entirely! |
| 05:03.27 | tordy | but i've only seen 1 ever |
| 05:03.29 | tordy | so no biggue |
| 05:03.29 | Bounty | my right hand is only used for my mouse and finger bangage |
| 05:03.45 | Reactorex | Do you play guitar? |
| 05:03.46 | mapmann | yea |
| 05:03.48 | Bounty | no |
| 05:03.53 | Reactorex | Piano? |
| 05:03.56 | Bounty | no |
| 05:04.05 | mapmann | but bro why wont you tell what the map is lol |
| 05:04.07 | Reactorex | Ever hold a sword? |
| 05:04.14 | Bounty | lol wtf |
| 05:04.15 | Bounty | no |
| 05:04.16 | tordy | yea |
| 05:04.20 | tordy | i'll tell you once i get an update |
| 05:04.23 | Reactorex | Rifle? |
| 05:04.28 | tordy | i can hold a rifle |
| 05:04.31 | mapmann | oki |
| 05:04.33 | Bounty | nope |
| 05:04.36 | mapmann | let me know when you do |
| 05:04.36 | Bounty | i dont like guns |
| 05:04.41 | Reactorex | Bow? |
| 05:04.45 | tordy | guns are k00l |
| 05:04.48 | tordy | like cool people use em |
| 05:04.49 | Bounty | if i ever held a gun/weapon i would prolly go on a rampage |
| 05:04.51 | tordy | very cool people |
| 05:04.54 | Bounty | so i stay away |
| 05:04.55 | Reactorex | Carry heavy equipment? |
| 05:05.00 | Bounty | nnnnnnnnnnope |
| 05:05.32 | Bounty | so |
| 05:05.35 | Bounty | the question of the day is |
| 05:05.40 | Reactorex | The answer is pi. |
| 05:05.41 | Bounty | should i add vehicles to battlefield egypt ii |
| 05:05.45 | Bounty | YAY OR NAY |
| 05:05.48 | Dustin | YAY |
| 05:05.49 | Reactorex | .. the answer is still pi. |
| 05:05.55 | tordy | wouldn't be battlefield without vehicles! |
| 05:06.01 | Bounty | yeah but |
| 05:06.05 | Bounty | look at the terrain |
| 05:06.09 | Reactorex | Bounty: take it as a zero vs. nonzero :P |
| 05:06.10 | Bounty | think its a good fit? |
| 05:06.17 | tordy | iunno maybe a small motorbike |
| 05:06.18 | tordy | XD |
| 05:06.20 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:06.33 | Bounty | lots of places to hide from vehicles |
| 05:06.40 | Reactorex | Bounty: Add in a fucking tank. xD |
| 05:06.41 | Bounty | 4 huge ass buildings with multiple entrances |
| 05:06.54 | Bounty | u know what i wanted to do |
| 05:06.59 | Bounty | add some sort of vehicle |
| 05:07.02 | Bounty | that someone can drive |
| 05:07.11 | Bounty | and another dude can hop in and shit on ppl |
| 05:07.14 | Reactorex | What about a vehicle that someone can't drive? |
| 05:07.22 | Reactorex | :P |
| 05:07.29 | Bounty | trololol |
| 05:07.55 | Bounty | all i know is |
| 05:07.57 | Reactorex | Sorry, my smartass meter is off the top atm. |
| 05:08.03 | Bounty | i gotta make it so its easier to tell people apart |
| 05:08.05 | Bounty | like who is on what team |
| 05:08.07 | Reactorex | Need a lid. |
| 05:08.08 | Bounty | because fucking tychus |
| 05:08.10 | Bounty | looks the same |
| 05:08.11 | Bounty | always |
| 05:08.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:08.24 | Reactorex | Bounty: Add a flag actor to each character with the team color |
| 05:08.33 | Bounty | nah, im just gonna add player names |
| 05:08.33 | Reactorex | Carried on back ;-) |
| 05:08.35 | Bounty | like |
| 05:08.36 | tordy | hello Reactorex |
| 05:08.43 | Reactorex | tordy: Goodbye, tordy :) |
| 05:08.45 | Bounty | you will see the player names above the character if he is on ur team |
| 05:08.49 | tordy | :( |
| 05:09.00 | Reactorex | Oh, that was a greeting? |
| 05:09.17 | Reactorex | Bounty: Hrm. |
| 05:09.21 | Reactorex | Any better options? |
| 05:09.27 | Reactorex | Actually, what are all the options anyways? |
| 05:09.33 | Bounty | not really, i think thats the best option |
| 05:09.41 | Bounty | itll help you local your team |
| 05:09.49 | Bounty | and identify people alot easier |
| 05:09.54 | Reactorex | I'd be worried that slightly slower internets will have the name lag a bit behind and look jerky. |
| 05:10.11 | Bounty | nah, if you attach a text tag it wont lag |
| 05:10.23 | Bounty | im more worried about people with shitty connections spam clicking hardcore |
| 05:10.24 | Reactorex | I keep forgetting we're in SC2, not WC3 xD |
| 05:10.48 | Reactorex | wc3 overhead text? Lag to all hell. |
| 05:10.53 | Bounty | the game runs at like 120 fps for me and everyone else that played was at about the same but |
| 05:10.56 | Reactorex | That was definitely not smooth motion. |
| 05:11.02 | Bounty | people have some shitty ass computers |
| 05:11.32 | tordy | hey they didnt buy comps to play sc2, they bought sc2 to play sc2 :] |
| 05:11.45 | Bounty | yeah but the problem is |
| 05:11.52 | Bounty | the last PC they bought for a game was for fucking SC1 |
| 05:11.59 | tordy | yes |
| 05:12.09 | tordy | 1998 comp aint runnin sc2 for real |
| 05:12.14 | Bounty | you can build a pc that can run sc2 perfectly for like 600 bucks |
| 05:12.37 | tordy | runnin sc2 on ultra isn't necessary, |
| 05:12.45 | Bounty | iunno we'll see what happens when the map goes live |
| 05:12.46 | tordy | so shave a $100 |
| 05:12.49 | tordy | and run on high is fine |
| 05:12.54 | Bounty | people fucking lag in mafia |
| 05:13.01 | Bounty | god knows wtf is going to happen with my map |
| 05:13.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:13.26 | tordy | did you scale down your world? |
| 05:13.27 | tordy | and reduce camera distance? |
| 05:13.30 | tordy | might help |
| 05:13.43 | Bounty | camera distance is like 1000000000 |
| 05:13.48 | Bounty | but the map size is really small |
| 05:13.53 | Bounty | tahts why it runs so good |
| 05:14.10 | Bounty | the first battlefield egypt i would get like 20 fps lol |
| 05:14.27 | tordy | mapZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
| 05:14.39 | tordy | i bring you mapZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
| 05:15.00 | Bounty | i take it you saw my post on the bnet forums |
| 05:15.02 | Reactorex | tordy: Boot to the head. |
| 05:15.11 | tordy | couldn't resist |
| 05:15.11 | Bounty | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/13437/ |
| 05:15.17 | Bounty | I BRING YYOU MAPZ |
| 05:15.20 | tordy | the z was just so |
| 05:15.30 | tordy | strong |
| 05:15.41 | tordy | it added flavor to your topic title |
| 05:16.14 | Bounty | yeah |
| 05:16.20 | Bounty | the I AM BACK in caps helps to |
| 05:16.33 | tordy | blizzard should've kept that cycling popularity system |
| 05:16.37 | tordy | where it resets at 18 hours |
| 05:16.44 | tordy | it was actually |
| 05:16.45 | tordy | good |
| 05:16.51 | Bounty | hence why they scrapped it |
| 05:16.55 | tordy | :( |
| 05:17.03 | mapmann | how do you save a whole array in a bank, since you cant use the |
| 05:17.09 | mapmann | pick each interger function |
| 05:17.14 | tordy | wht |
| 05:17.33 | tordy | why cant you use the pick each integer |
| 05:19.42 | Reactorex | I beg to differ. |
| 05:20.25 | Reactorex | A new game that can't be seen on the front page when first started hurts the game for those that will not try it. |
| 05:20.57 | tordy | talkin to me |
| 05:21.05 | Reactorex | The old and current system is flawed, but the current is better than the old. |
| 05:21.41 | tordy | current really favors long high player count games |
| 05:21.43 | tordy | D: |
| 05:21.45 | Reactorex | "X plays" .. god that was terrible. |
| 05:21.48 | tordy | but old system was just bad |
| 05:22.06 | Reactorex | That 4-player short tower defense? |
| 05:22.11 | Reactorex | over 12,000 plays in no time. |
| 05:22.37 | tordy | uh oh! |
| 05:22.43 | Reactorex | The current one favors long high player count games, but isn't exclusive to them. |
| 05:22.55 | Reactorex | A good few-player game can get up to the top as well. |
| 05:23.07 | Reactorex | Actually, it can't get up to the top if it's not good. xD |
| 05:23.15 | tordy | i noticed every custom on the first page has at least 6 players |
| 05:23.34 | tordy | and 2nd page, think there's just one 4 player |
| 05:23.36 | Reactorex | Reason: it's funner to play with friends or against more people (more slaughter!) |
| 05:23.42 | tordy | yea i suppose |
| 05:23.59 | Reactorex | I run a clan of about fifteen people. |
| 05:24.06 | Reactorex | The clan is now seven years old. |
| 05:24.11 | mapmann | oups sorry |
| 05:24.15 | tordy | what |
| 05:24.22 | Reactorex | When we get together, I like to get as many of us as possible. |
| 05:24.28 | mapmann | you cant use the pick integer cuz it fucks the shit out of your bank |
| 05:24.32 | Reactorex | Not just one or two and get limited at that. :p |
| 05:25.08 | tordy | well of course more people is better in a social event is better |
| 05:25.23 | tordy | maps are a lil different in that ideal since there are other things to account for |
| 05:25.56 | mapmann | tahts what I heard |
| 05:25.58 | tordy | anyway, at least blizz tried to change it |
| 05:25.59 | mapmann | and I was like |
| 05:26.01 | mapmann | Pffff |
| 05:26.03 | tordy | current system is horrible |
| 05:26.05 | tordy | *isnt |
| 05:26.07 | mapmann | then I did it on my bank |
| 05:26.13 | mapmann | and it fucked all the shit up |
| 05:26.22 | mapmann | then I did them all 1 by 1 and it worked fine |
| 05:26.26 | mapmann | so i guess it was true |
| 05:26.34 | tordy | added bookmarks to at least check our favorites buried deep |
| 05:26.51 | tordy | but if the're buried deep, you'll never get a many players joining :[ |
| 05:27.09 | tordy | you'll have to play with the same old people |
| 05:27.10 | tordy | every time |
| 05:27.20 | Reactorex | The current system IS horrible :P |
| 05:27.27 | Reactorex | It's anti-new maps. |
| 05:27.41 | Reactorex | Only a minority will see or play new maps. |
| 05:27.45 | tordy | by horrible i meant terribly horrible like the old system |
| 05:27.54 | Reactorex | The old system wasn't horrible. |
| 05:28.12 | Reactorex | It was broken beyond repair, as is evident of the current attempted repair on it. |
| 05:28.25 | Reactorex | Still broken. |
| 05:29.02 | tordy | activision's console mentality = automatic matchups and quick games |
| 05:29.09 | tordy | it got pushed into sc2 :[ |
| 05:29.15 | tordy | so no user lobbies for us |
| 05:29.47 | Reactorex | The old system was a wench fucked dry with her slit cut off. It was defunct, ugly, repulsive, horrendous, and by all means boshed. |
| 05:30.31 | Reactorex | I made a thread occupying three full-length posts of a complaint concerning the system. |
| 05:30.38 | Reactorex | That was during the beta forums. |
| 05:30.55 | Reactorex | It's gone now, of course. |
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| 05:31.22 | tordy | did you at least save it |
| 05:31.26 | tordy | i wann read |
| 05:31.34 | tordy | i always save long posts |
| 05:31.37 | tordy | my long posts |
| 05:31.48 | tordy | because i take to time to type em, |
| 05:31.59 | tordy | and when i look abck |
| 05:32.05 | tordy | i'd either be wow was i that dumb? |
| 05:32.07 | tordy | or |
| 05:32.19 | tordy | something that brings a tear of nostalgia to my eye |
| 05:33.39 | Reactorex | Sure didn't save it. |
| 05:33.53 | Reactorex | It got blogged about, but it was only partial. |
| 05:34.09 | Reactorex | It has some excerpts from my complaint. |
| 05:34.22 | tordy | are you the guy that made overrun |
| 05:34.45 | Reactorex | I'm the guy that has never released anything in his life to public and yet has worked on hundreds of maps and acts as a consultant for others. |
| 05:35.01 | tordy | were you a consultant for the guy that made overrun |
| 05:35.07 | Reactorex | Who made overrun? |
| 05:35.15 | tordy | someone that starts with a R |
| 05:35.26 | tordy | you remember overrun in beta? |
| 05:35.32 | Reactorex | Might. |
| 05:35.33 | tordy | was a pretty fun defense map back then |
| 05:35.38 | Reactorex | I barely remember anything, though. |
| 05:35.39 | tordy | then disappeared |
| 05:35.53 | Reactorex | The most vivid memory I have from beta is Infection. |
| 05:35.58 | Reactorex | I think that's the name. |
| 05:36.00 | tordy | reached top populartiy for a couple weeks |
| 05:36.06 | tordy | until nexus wars took it |
| 05:36.17 | Reactorex | How's overrun play? |
| 05:36.32 | tordy | just make some towers and micro units |
| 05:36.40 | tordy | well maybe not much micro |
| 05:36.46 | Reactorex | I haven't really gotten to play SC2 since the start of college. |
| 05:36.55 | Reactorex | Came out just before college for me. |
| 05:36.56 | tordy | this map |
| 05:36.56 | tordy | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/overrun/ |
| 05:37.01 | tordy | surely you've seen it if you played beta |
| 05:37.13 | tordy | popular in both phase 1 and phase 2 |
| 05:37.20 | Reactorex | Yes, I've played. |
| 05:37.32 | Reactorex | I did not act as a consultant, though I spoke with the guy. |
| 05:37.48 | tordy | he made some cool work with actors |
| 05:37.51 | tordy | especially so early in beta |
| 05:38.04 | Reactorex | We did a lot of amazing stuff in early beta. |
| 05:38.08 | tordy | yes we did |
| 05:38.19 | Reactorex | I found funner maps during beta than I do now :P |
| 05:38.33 | Reactorex | Should've stayed beta forever :) |
| 05:38.48 | tordy | that's becuase there was no dominating genre (yet) |
| 05:38.49 | tordy | until nexus wars |
| 05:39.06 | Reactorex | Even after Nexus Wars was made. |
| 05:39.16 | tordy | although i think it's my fault for getting nexus wars popular |
| 05:39.21 | tordy | partly my fault |
| 05:39.26 | tordy | since i was involved in making tugs in beta |
| 05:39.34 | tordy | my tug was popular before nexus wars |
| 05:39.41 | tordy | and then the tug genre just exploded for some reason |
| 05:39.48 | Reactorex | Tugs are easy to make, just a pain to balance. :) |
| 05:39.52 | tordy | yea |
| 05:39.57 | tordy | i still balance mine from time to time |
| 05:39.59 | Reactorex | Of course they'd be made :P |
| 05:40.15 | tordy | i cant let it go |
| 05:40.16 | tordy | the first sc2 map i made |
| 05:40.17 | Reactorex | If you didn't, someone else would be annoyed at the lack thereof and would create one. |
| 05:40.24 | tordy | maybe |
| 05:40.25 | Reactorex | The first SC2 map I made was a test map. |
| 05:40.32 | Reactorex | The first REAL one I worked on hasn't been released. |
| 05:40.35 | tordy | my first "public" map |
| 05:40.36 | Reactorex | I got busy half-way through. |
| 05:40.41 | tordy | my first map was a test map too |
| 05:40.46 | tordy | since i had no idea how the editor worked |
| 05:40.50 | Reactorex | It's still my current project that I touch from time to time. |
| 05:40.58 | tordy | doing simple operations like looping, didnt even know how to do that |
| 05:41.01 | Reactorex | It's much like Cortex and was started around the same time. |
| 05:41.03 | tordy | or regions |
| 05:41.09 | tordy | since i was only used to the sc1's editor |
| 05:41.14 | Reactorex | heh. |
| 05:41.18 | tordy | never touched the wc3 editor |
| 05:41.18 | Reactorex | That's the worst transition. |
| 05:41.21 | tordy | thought it was too complicated |
| 05:41.27 | tordy | and now here i am w/ sc2 |
| 05:41.28 | Reactorex | No coding experience, no wc3 editor, go straight to sc2 editor. |
| 05:41.28 | tordy | editor |
| 05:41.29 | tordy | xd |
| 05:41.35 | tordy | well i have a bit of coding experience |
| 05:41.37 | Reactorex | SC2 editor makes wc3 editor look easy |
| 05:41.38 | Reactorex | lmao |
| 05:41.53 | tordy | but coding wasn't the problem |
| 05:41.55 | tordy | it was the darn data editor |
| 05:41.59 | tordy | god that took forever to figure out |
| 05:42.02 | Reactorex | Ha. |
| 05:42.03 | Reactorex | :D |
| 05:42.08 | Reactorex | So true. |
| 05:42.20 | Reactorex | Need an in depth manual for that thing, seriously. |
| 05:43.30 | Reactorex | I'd say it has to have a depth of at least pi. |
| 05:43.47 | tordy | isn't pi wrong |
| 05:43.53 | Reactorex | Btw, tordy.. |
| 05:43.54 | tordy | it should've been 6.28 or something |
| 05:44.22 | Reactorex | I baked you a pi. |
| 05:44.29 | tordy | :4 |
| 05:44.51 | Reactorex | And no, pi is the amount of times the diameter can wrap around the circle. |
| 05:45.08 | Reactorex | Not the radius :) |
| 05:45.23 | tordy | yea it is but that's the wrong definition |
| 05:45.28 | tordy | lemme find that article |
| 05:45.48 | Reactorex | It most certainly isn't the technical definition of pi, I know. xD |
| 05:45.48 | tordy | http://tauday.com/ |
| 05:45.57 | tordy | long read |
| 05:47.23 | tordy | so why havent you released anything |
| 05:47.35 | tordy | a man of your experience could release something good |
| 05:47.51 | Reactorex | Why haven't I? I don't really care to. xD |
| 05:47.56 | Reactorex | The one that I worked on got interrupted. :P |
| 05:48.01 | tordy | i care :( |
| 05:48.12 | Reactorex | I've been doing mapping and consulting since mid SC1. |
| 05:48.13 | tordy | you should get your work noticed! |
| 05:48.32 | Reactorex | The name "Reactorex" is a new anagram of my name I use everywhere. |
| 05:48.49 | Reactorex | Reactorex is an anagram of Net_Creator, with a little twist. |
| 05:48.57 | tordy | but the underscore!... |
| 05:48.59 | tordy | ___________ |
| 05:49.01 | Reactorex | It's just redesigned to more fit the SC2 theme. :P |
| 05:49.13 | Reactorex | Underscores don't fit into anagrams. ;-) |
| 05:49.28 | Reactorex | The underscore was treated as a space. |
| 05:49.34 | Reactorex | In fact, it was used in place of a space in SC1. |
| 05:49.38 | tordy | did you make another proposition to the popularity system topic |
| 05:49.59 | Reactorex | I did; I proposed a new system and proposed going back to the old. |
| 05:50.04 | Reactorex | I don't remember my new proposal, though. |
| 05:50.11 | Reactorex | I posted my complaint in bug reports. :P |
| 05:50.13 | tordy | what was the new system like |
| 05:50.17 | Reactorex | I reported the current system as one major bug. |
| 05:50.27 | Reactorex | Hell, don't remember for worth squat. xD |
| 05:53.56 | tordy | bnet forums is just bashing between mappers, the same mappers that goto this irc |
| 05:54.01 | tordy | pretty entertaining i might say |
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| 06:03.55 | tordy | jig |
| 06:03.59 | tordy | JyggaAA |
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| 06:10.14 | Agouti | howdy all |
| 06:11.59 | tordy | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:12.23 | Agouti | I don't know what to say to that |
| 06:13.37 | Agouti | except possibly |
| 06:13.41 | Agouti | "I don't know what to say to that" |
| 06:15.44 | tordy | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:18.01 | Agouti | mmmhmm |
| 06:18.25 | tordy | Agouti!!!! hello!! |
| 06:18.38 | Agouti | IT LIVES |
| 06:18.42 | Agouti | wavves |
| 06:19.28 | Agouti | actors are finnicky things |
| 06:19.31 | tordy | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:19.32 | Agouti | :/ |
| 06:20.46 | Agouti | oh that is just plain frustrating |
| 06:20.51 | tordy | what is |
| 06:21.01 | Agouti | one loop of the psi disruptor's stand animation contains 2 casts |
| 06:21.12 | tordy | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:21.17 | Agouti | or 2 impacts |
| 06:23.32 | Agouti | couldn't work out why it was playing twice |
| 06:23.39 | Agouti | until I actually looked at in in the previewer |
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| 06:25.34 | tordy | Mephs, Reactorex disappeared |
| 06:26.14 | Agouti | ? |
| 06:26.16 | Agouti | oh |
| 06:26.33 | Mephs | huh? |
| 06:26.46 | Mephs | who? |
| 06:28.33 | Agouti | Derailment: can anyone tell me how to play only a part of an animation? |
| 06:28.39 | Agouti | Blend Out seems to do nothing |
| 06:28.45 | tordy | Mephs knows |
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| 06:31.15 | Mephs | i'm afraid i dont |
| 06:31.24 | tordy | oh man :( |
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| 07:16.58 | currydevil | I seem to have lost a map that I published a while ago =( |
| 07:34.53 | Agouti | aw :( |
| 07:37.40 | currydevil | ya, can't find it at all. had some abilities on it i wanted to work on =X |
| 07:51.29 | tordy | will you get on with it!?!?!? |
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| 08:37.59 | XenoX101 | hey |
| 08:38.05 | XenoX101 | does anyone know how to hide the battle ui? |
| 08:38.28 | XenoX101 | o wait nvm |
| 08:39.06 | slightlyrandom | Cinematic mode, GO! |
| 08:39.13 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 08:39.28 | XenoX101 | do you seriously have to hide every UI element one by one? |
| 08:39.52 | XenoX101 | o wait |
| 08:39.53 | XenoX101 | show/hide game ui |
| 08:39.54 | XenoX101 | there we go |
| 08:41.00 | XenoX101 | why isn't my text centered -.- |
| 08:41.04 | XenoX101 | it has hjustify |
| 08:41.08 | XenoX101 | and is anchored to top left |
| 08:41.14 | XenoX101 | hjustify = center* |
| 08:49.51 | XenoX101 | and is there any way to refresh an imported object than to re-fucking add it in? |
| 08:51.36 | XenoX101 | wtf |
| 08:51.42 | XenoX101 | now my text is in a corner |
| 08:51.45 | XenoX101 | and smaller than it should be |
| 08:51.46 | XenoX101 | this is bullshit |
| 08:52.57 | XenoX101 | ok its back to normal, but I still can't center it perfectly |
| 08:55.03 | ducky | your monologue is quite amusing |
| 08:55.24 | XenoX101 | its blizzards retardation |
| 08:55.49 | XenoX101 | to not even be able to incorporate some form of sensibility |
| 08:55.56 | XenoX101 | in making dialogs or dialog text |
| 08:56.44 | XenoX101 | why can't I update my font style |
| 08:56.48 | XenoX101 | without reloading it into the map |
| 08:56.50 | XenoX101 | thats stupid |
| 08:57.00 | XenoX101 | really fucking stupid |
| 08:57.12 | XenoX101 | like I remember macromedia flash 3 |
| 08:57.14 | XenoX101 | in 1998 |
| 08:57.17 | XenoX101 | had that feature with images |
| 08:57.21 | XenoX101 | "update from source" |
| 08:57.43 | XenoX101 | I guess its not an important aspect of the editor though |
| 08:57.48 | XenoX101 | you know, importing new content |
| 08:57.58 | XenoX101 | redefining the assets given to you |
| 08:58.16 | XenoX101 | naw, just another of the many features |
| 08:58.54 | XenoX101 | but seriously, why won't this text center |
| 09:01.15 | ducky | you can center text on labels? |
| 09:01.47 | ducky | hm, that could save me from using buttons for centered text =D |
| 09:01.47 | XenoX101 | the text has hjustify="center" |
| 09:02.25 | ducky | i haven't looked into text styles yet =[ |
| 09:02.27 | slightlyrandom | "Welcome to Curse Premium!" |
| 09:02.30 | slightlyrandom | What the fuck? |
| 09:02.35 | slightlyrandom | Who's pulling my leg here? |
| 09:02.43 | ducky | you don't like being welcomed? :D |
| 09:02.51 | slightlyrandom | "Thank you again for being a valuable member of the Curse community!" |
| 09:03.04 | slightlyrandom | I've never been a member of your soddin' community |
| 09:03.33 | slightlyrandom | I get suspicious when I get stuff I haven't signed up or paid for |
| 09:03.39 | ducky | i get the feeling that they're trying too hard to be polite, their friendlyness offends me >:[ |
| 09:03.55 | slightlyrandom | I wouldn't mind being welcomed if I had actually gone there |
| 09:03.59 | slightlyrandom | Or asked to be let in |
| 09:04.21 | ducky | ;P |
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| 10:53.07 | Booom3 | Where is a good place to find players for your map? |
| 11:08.49 | slightlyrandom | Here, sometimes |
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| 11:38.10 | Booom3 | So does any euro player in here want to play a map? |
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| 11:41.32 | IDEATH | Does anyone know how to apply a beacon to float under a unit? |
| 11:43.55 | RndmObjcts | a beacon? |
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| 12:00.22 | Booom3 | any euro sc2 players here? |
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| 12:05.25 | IDEATH | yes a beacon |
| 12:09.38 | RndmObjcts | you could try using a region that you have set to follow your original unit and spawn a beacon in the center of it |
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| 12:20.26 | IDEATH | does anyone know how to get a region to spawn a unit and is immobile and floats with the region? |
| 12:21.01 | Booom3 | what |
| 12:24.50 | Agouti | IDEATH |
| 12:24.56 | Agouti | just spawn it with the right behaviours |
| 12:25.13 | IDEATH | what do you mean? |
| 12:25.25 | IDEATH | how? |
| 12:25.49 | Agouti | your question has 3 seperate parts |
| 12:25.55 | Agouti | 1. how to spawn a unit in a region |
| 12:25.58 | Agouti | is easy |
| 12:26.07 | Agouti | 2. how to make a unit immobile |
| 12:26.21 | Agouti | behaviour with the correct flags set |
| 12:26.28 | Agouti | 3. how to make a unit float |
| 12:26.51 | Agouti | have a look at the phoenix grav beam for 2 and 3 |
| 12:26.59 | IDEATH | well, the whole point in it is to make that unit follow with a hero i have |
| 12:27.11 | Agouti | how can it do that if it is immobile |
| 12:27.13 | IDEATH | the unit is a beacon |
| 12:27.33 | Agouti | ok, so let me totally rewrite your question |
| 12:27.42 | IDEATH | not immoble but more like connected and unusable |
| 12:27.50 | Agouti | "How can I make a flying unit that can't be commanded and follows a hero around" |
| 12:28.03 | Agouti | a little different to what you asked |
| 12:28.06 | IDEATH | kindof |
| 12:28.20 | IDEATH | i know i know but i was trying something |
| 12:28.26 | Agouti | if by kindof you mean a totally unrelated question |
| 12:28.30 | Agouti | anyway |
| 12:28.37 | Agouti | makign a unit uncommandable is trivial |
| 12:28.46 | Agouti | simply set the "uncommandable" flag |
| 12:28.52 | IDEATH | lol |
| 12:28.58 | Agouti | likewise for selecting and targeting |
| 12:29.11 | Agouti | there are 2 sets of flags which sound correct |
| 12:29.15 | Agouti | the top set are duds |
| 12:29.22 | Agouti | you want the Uncommandable |
| 12:29.28 | Agouti | Untargetable |
| 12:29.39 | Agouti | Unselectable |
| 12:29.39 | IDEATH | ok well what i need is the protoss beacon to center and move with my unit |
| 12:29.57 | Agouti | just the image of the protoss beacon? |
| 12:30.16 | Agouti | for like an aura ability? |
| 12:30.24 | Agouti | because that is another thing again ;) |
| 12:30.36 | IDEATH | i think yeah |
| 12:30.41 | Agouti | oke doke |
| 12:30.41 | IDEATH | lolo |
| 12:30.45 | Agouti | in that case |
| 12:30.54 | Agouti | you need to make or modify an actor |
| 12:31.05 | Agouti | do you know how actors work? |
| 12:31.08 | Agouti | or what they do |
| 12:31.14 | IDEATH | yep |
| 12:31.19 | Agouti | ok |
| 12:31.29 | Agouti | so you are going to want an actor of type Model |
| 12:31.40 | Agouti | that is created when the unit gains the aura |
| 12:31.49 | Agouti | which is fairly trivial |
| 12:31.59 | Agouti | you just need a Model actor |
| 12:32.05 | Agouti | with the correct model set, of course |
| 12:32.38 | Agouti | and under events set Behavior.BehaviourName.On |
| 12:32.43 | Agouti | Create |
| 12:32.50 | Agouti | Behaviour.BehaviourName.Off |
| 12:32.53 | Agouti | Destroy |
| 12:33.03 | Agouti | and set the Host+ |
| 12:33.06 | Agouti | down the bottom |
| 12:33.11 | Agouti | Alias _Unit |
| 12:33.17 | Agouti | and that's it |
| 12:33.42 | IDEATH | huh? thats it? |
| 12:34.01 | IDEATH | to get the protoss beacon to follow under that unit? |
| 12:34.05 | Agouti | yes |
| 12:34.11 | Agouti | for an aura effect |
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| 12:34.17 | IDEATH | umm... ok |
| 12:34.22 | IDEATH | ill do it now |
| 12:34.53 | Agouti | so I guessed correct yes? You wanted to use the model of the protoss beacon for an effect? |
| 12:35.04 | Agouti | so when some ability is active it shows it under the unit that is casting it? |
| 12:35.33 | IDEATH | well actually at all times. just like in SoTIS |
| 12:35.37 | Agouti | noting that where I wrote BehaviourName that would be the behaviour that gets applied to the caster when it has it's aura active |
| 12:35.50 | Agouti | either a periodic or a search, depending on how you built it |
| 12:35.52 | IDEATH | i see |
| 12:35.56 | Agouti | or a Buff, I suppose |
| 12:36.02 | IDEATH | i will need that later though |
| 12:36.17 | IDEATH | i will have a LOT of abilities that i will need that with |
| 12:36.45 | Agouti | you may need to set some flags to stop it inheriting it's owners color, if that is important |
| 12:37.03 | Agouti | but remember to make a clear distinction between units and models |
| 12:37.25 | Agouti | basically units and art |
| 12:37.35 | IDEATH | what do you mean? |
| 12:37.49 | Agouti | if something is purely aesthetic, and doesn't directly interact or have abilities of it's own |
| 12:37.53 | Agouti | then it's not a unit |
| 12:37.56 | Agouti | it's just art |
| 12:38.00 | Agouti | and only needs an actor |
| 12:38.26 | IDEATH | yeah, i see what you mean' |
| 12:38.36 | IDEATH | that would be like a doodad right? |
| 12:38.51 | Agouti | correct, a doodad is just an actor |
| 12:39.06 | IDEATH | oh ok |
| 12:39.18 | Agouti | but just making that clear because of this example, where all that was needed was an actor but you were ready to create a unit etc for it |
| 12:39.51 | Agouti | a doodad is still a actor of type Unit, but it doesn't have a unit attached to it |
| 12:39.52 | IDEATH | yeah |
| 12:39.52 | Agouti | iirc |
| 12:40.17 | IDEATH | i see |
| 12:40.25 | IDEATH | makes sence |
| 12:41.11 | Agouti | I'll be back in 30min or so if you have any problems |
| 12:41.28 | IDEATH | well, wait |
| 12:41.34 | Agouti | If you want the effect to just sit on the ground |
| 12:41.41 | Agouti | like say, Psi Storm does |
| 12:41.52 | Agouti | have a look at how it's built |
| 12:42.28 | IDEATH | if what you showed me would activate with an ability then thats not what i want yet exactly |
| 12:42.31 | Agouti | I can't remember off the top of my head how the actors for persistent effects are put together |
| 12:42.43 | IDEATH | i want it to center under it constantly |
| 12:42.54 | Agouti | you just have to set the correct event for when you want it to appear |
| 12:43.08 | Agouti | if it's unit creation, then set unit creation |
| 12:43.14 | Agouti | or more specifically actor creation |
| 12:43.22 | IDEATH | oh ok |
| 12:43.35 | Agouti | you can also do it back to front |
| 12:43.40 | IDEATH | and set it to create the protoss beacon? |
| 12:43.44 | Agouti | which if you plan on reusing it a lot would be better |
| 12:43.52 | Agouti | you can do it either way |
| 12:44.00 | Agouti | an event in the units actor to create the beacon |
| 12:44.05 | IDEATH | what do you mean back to front? |
| 12:44.06 | Agouti | or an even in the beacons actor |
| 12:44.19 | Agouti | 1 sec |
| 12:44.20 | Agouti | brb |
| 12:44.23 | IDEATH | ok |
| 12:45.57 | Agouti | by back to front I mean when that actor is created |
| 12:46.04 | Agouti | what does the creating |
| 12:46.16 | Agouti | you could have an event under a unit's actor |
| 12:46.27 | Agouti | Actor Creation -> Create ProtossBeacon |
| 12:46.38 | Agouti | or you could have it under the beacons actor |
| 12:47.09 | Agouti | Event Unit Birth [Some Unit] -> Create |
| 12:47.11 | Agouti | or w/e |
| 12:47.38 | Agouti | though you would probably have Event Actor Creation [SomeUnitsActor] -> Create |
| 12:47.48 | Agouti | if you are going to reuse it for a number of different units |
| 12:47.52 | Agouti | the former is better |
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| 12:53.14 | IDEATH | im reading it |
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| 12:54.03 | IDEATH | ill use the first one |
| 12:54.19 | IDEATH | and i did but it didnt work |
| 12:55.03 | Agouti | can you post the map? |
| 12:55.28 | IDEATH | that'll take forever im trying it a different way |
| 12:55.38 | Agouti | oke doek |
| 12:55.46 | Agouti | use my name if you want attention |
| 12:55.52 | Agouti | so I get a ding |
| 12:56.32 | IDEATH | what do you mean? |
| 12:56.35 | IDEATH | lol |
| 12:57.01 | IDEATH | actually, can you walk me through it? |
| 12:57.24 | IDEATH | i go to events then add and event right? |
| 13:04.22 | Agouti | ok |
| 13:04.33 | Agouti | so you have an actor for the beacon effect? |
| 13:06.02 | IDEATH | Agouti: I have it working, but the image for the unit and the portrait is gone |
| 13:06.34 | Agouti | sounds like you broke something in the unit actor |
| 13:06.41 | IDEATH | maybe |
| 13:08.13 | Agouti | what is the event in the units actor |
| 13:09.55 | IDEATH | ok i created an event which is, Actor creation, then the action is Create Beacon_Protoss Beacon_Protoss |
| 13:10.27 | Agouti | try Unit Birth instead |
| 13:10.40 | IDEATH | ok |
| 13:11.03 | IDEATH | lemme test it |
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| 13:12.14 | IDEATH | It gives me a warning in-game that says... |
| 13:14.02 | IDEATH | WARNING: More than one CActorUnit persisting in the same unit scope. |
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| 13:15.15 | IDEATH | its still has a beacon image in the middle thing and has no portrait, i need it to still be selecting my unit. |
| 13:15.54 | Agouti_ | what does? |
| 13:16.18 | IDEATH | the unit when i select it |
| 13:16.42 | Agouti | did you set the Host on the beacons actor? |
| 13:16.57 | IDEATH | no how do i do that? |
| 13:17.23 | IDEATH | i will want multiple units with this actor btw |
| 13:17.28 | Agouti | yes |
| 13:17.39 | Agouti | let me make sure what I'm telling you to do will work first |
| 13:17.46 | IDEATH | ok |
| 13:18.05 | Agouti | ok, so a quick example |
| 13:18.11 | Agouti | I just did the following: |
| 13:18.13 | Agouti | for a blank map |
| 13:18.21 | Agouti | opened up the VoidRay unit actor |
| 13:18.25 | Agouti | added an event at the end |
| 13:18.42 | Agouti | Unit Birth.VoidRay -> Create VortexModel |
| 13:19.00 | Agouti | and that is it |
| 13:19.35 | Agouti | VortexModel is a model actor for the motherships vortex effect |
| 13:19.51 | Agouti | and that works as I understand you want yours to work |
| 13:25.12 | IDEATH | i think so yeah |
| 13:25.44 | Agouti | what I just described should work for you |
| 13:25.56 | Agouti | except of course different model and different unit |
| 13:26.34 | HP-X|Arthas | Surely, putting mspaint on the CV will get me a job! |
| 13:26.59 | Agouti | Especially if it's a job for a contractual management engineer |
| 13:27.00 | HP-X|Arthas | hey Agouti |
| 13:27.05 | HP-X|Arthas | Agouti yeah :D |
| 13:27.06 | Agouti | ja;;o arthas |
| 13:27.11 | Agouti | er |
| 13:27.17 | HP-X|Arthas | applying for nasdaq noc :p |
| 13:27.19 | Agouti | that means hallo in tounges |
| 13:27.24 | Agouti | noc? |
| 13:27.27 | Agouti | *googles* |
| 13:27.43 | Agouti | Northrop Grumman Corporation? |
| 13:27.53 | HP-X|Arthas | network operations center |
| 13:27.54 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 13:28.00 | HP-X|Arthas | almost though |
| 13:28.00 | Agouti | oooh /facepalm |
| 13:28.23 | Agouti | so I'm guessing you have the required 3+ years previous experience in a related field? |
| 13:28.25 | Agouti | ;) |
| 13:28.39 | HP-X|Arthas | nop |
| 13:28.42 | HP-X|Arthas | ive got the education though |
| 13:28.52 | Agouti | well, best of luck |
| 13:28.55 | HP-X|Arthas | and familirairty with some of their tools from my previous job as tech support |
| 13:28.57 | Agouti | can't hurt to try |
| 13:29.04 | HP-X|Arthas | Thats what i thought |
| 13:29.16 | HP-X|Arthas | prolly easier to get into a large one like that than a smaller one ^^ |
| 13:29.21 | Agouti | mmmm |
| 13:29.24 | Agouti | not always the case |
| 13:29.39 | Agouti | what is the job description? |
| 13:30.08 | HP-X|Arthas | to monitor their multiple systems |
| 13:30.14 | Agouti | yeah |
| 13:30.16 | HP-X|Arthas | take action or escalate when problem occurs |
| 13:30.20 | IDEATH | Agouti it doesn't work |
| 13:30.26 | Agouti | generally for that sort of thing they aren't going to take on a rookie |
| 13:30.39 | IDEATH | its just adding another unit to it' |
| 13:31.02 | Agouti | choose your words carefully |
| 13:31.02 | HP-X|Arthas | nope, but i know for a fact that they do have further education |
| 13:31.15 | HP-X|Arthas | alot of it iirc |
| 13:31.24 | Agouti | you need to make sure you are clear in what you are saying ideath, as well as asking for |
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| 13:31.49 | Agouti | are you sure you mean creating another *unit* ? |
| 13:32.31 | HP-X|Arthas | Putting galaxy editor under tools |
| 13:32.41 | Agouti | I EDIT THE GALAXY |
| 13:32.45 | HP-X|Arthas | ! |
| 13:32.50 | Agouti | don't worry boyz |
| 13:32.52 | Agouti | i got this |
| 13:32.57 | HP-X|Arthas | We're fucked |
| 13:33.00 | HP-X|Arthas | Game over |
| 13:33.03 | Agouti | coming soon to a cinema near you |
| 13:33.09 | Agouti | One Man |
| 13:33.15 | Agouti | Had the Power to change the Universe |
| 13:33.22 | Agouti | But did he have the Power to change Himself? |
| 13:33.27 | IDEATH | like if i use an immortal and i add an event I put Unit Birth in the Msg Type and put immortal in Source Name it just adds in another immortal |
| 13:33.39 | Agouti | well yes |
| 13:33.42 | Agouti | unit actor |
| 13:33.45 | Agouti | the type matters |
| 13:34.04 | IDEATH | ? |
| 13:34.11 | Agouti | what did you expect to happen? |
| 13:34.29 | Agouti | Event immortal is born |
| 13:34.33 | Agouti | create immortal |
| 13:34.36 | Agouti | ... |
| 13:34.43 | Agouti | seems rather obvious what is going to happen |
| 13:34.46 | HP-X|Arthas | Agouti: you know what that movie needs in order to become a hit? |
| 13:34.55 | IDEATH | lol |
| 13:35.01 | IDEATH | thats not iwhat i did |
| 13:35.07 | Agouti | protagaonist, antagonist, hot sidekick, funny side character |
| 13:35.08 | Agouti | um |
| 13:35.09 | Agouti | plot twist |
| 13:35.10 | IDEATH | read the message carefully |
| 13:35.14 | Agouti | lots of special effects |
| 13:35.20 | HP-X|Arthas | Music by the highwaymen and a cat |
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| 13:35.25 | Agouti | ahhh |
| 13:35.27 | Agouti | genius |
| 13:35.32 | IDEATH | msg type: Unit birth |
| 13:35.39 | HP-X|Arthas | Yes, itll be the blockbuster of the century |
| 13:35.42 | IDEATH | source name: immortal |
| 13:36.11 | Agouti | and what did you put under that |
| 13:36.20 | Agouti | as the action |
| 13:36.35 | IDEATH | if i do create -> protoss beacon in the action it doesnt do anything |
| 13:36.43 | Agouti | be specific |
| 13:36.50 | Agouti | walk me through what you did |
| 13:36.55 | Agouti | where you put info |
| 13:37.10 | IDEATH | if i put protoss beacon in the source name it makes the unit whatever you spawned |
| 13:37.23 | Agouti | whaa? |
| 13:37.28 | Agouti | the event was correct |
| 13:37.30 | Agouti | what is the action |
| 13:37.47 | Agouti | I guess I'm going to need to walk you through this |
| 13:37.52 | Agouti | Add event |
| 13:38.06 | Agouti | msg type: unit birth |
| 13:38.11 | Agouti | source name: Immortal |
| 13:38.19 | Agouti | click the action |
| 13:38.23 | Agouti | that is on the left hand side |
| 13:38.33 | HP-X|Arthas | This chat could be the introduction to the movie ya know |
| 13:38.34 | Agouti | that has the little filmy icon next to it |
| 13:38.42 | Agouti | Msg Type: Create |
| 13:38.46 | Agouti | click on Name |
| 13:38.55 | Agouti | down the bottom select Actor |
| 13:39.00 | Agouti | in the drop box |
| 13:39.13 | Agouti | select the name of the beacons model actor |
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| 13:39.35 | Agouti | lol arthas |
| 13:39.49 | Agouti | then it fades to a car scene |
| 13:39.51 | Agouti | mini montage |
| 13:39.53 | HP-X|Arthas | yes |
| 13:40.04 | Agouti | and then into some high tech looking lab |
| 13:40.15 | Agouti | where the protaganist enters with a hot cup of coffee |
| 13:40.22 | Agouti | and starts talking to some lackee at a computer |
| 13:40.27 | IDEATH | what about content? |
| 13:40.38 | Agouti | don't touch |
| 13:40.42 | IDEATH | k |
| 13:41.30 | Agouti | I love this steam sale on atm |
| 13:41.39 | Agouti | picked up a whole bunch of great little games super cheap |
| 13:42.01 | Agouti | except blueberry garden is crap |
| 13:44.06 | IDEATH | it works better now but the image for the immortal and portrait is gone still... |
| 13:46.47 | IDEATH | and the immortal doesnt turn with the direction... |
| 13:48.02 | IDEATH | I dont understand why |
| 13:52.31 | IDEATH | Agouti you still there? |
| 13:52.50 | Agouti | yup |
| 13:53.07 | HP-X|Arthas | ok back |
| 13:53.08 | Agouti | are you sure the actor you are creating |
| 13:53.12 | Agouti | is of type Model?> |
| 13:53.23 | HP-X|Arthas | is the lackee sixen? |
| 13:53.25 | HP-X|Arthas | cameo! |
| 13:53.35 | HP-X|Arthas | or browder |
| 13:53.36 | HP-X|Arthas | hmm |
| 13:55.10 | IDEATH | well the protoss beacon is a unit |
| 13:56.19 | Agouti | There is a unit which uses the Protoss Beacon model |
| 13:56.31 | Agouti | and that unit is likewise called Protoss Beacon |
| 13:56.35 | HP-X|Arthas | Demonette can do the screenplay |
| 13:56.38 | HP-X|Arthas | ~seen Demonette |
| 13:56.45 | purl | demonette <5edd72d3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.221.114.211> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 1h 9m 14s ago, saying: 'hi Stewox'. |
| 13:56.52 | Agouti | I didn't spend 5 lines making sure you understood the difference between units and actors for nothing :/ |
| 13:57.06 | IDEATH | lol |
| 13:57.08 | HP-X|Arthas | units = simple |
| 13:57.12 | HP-X|Arthas | actors = gay |
| 13:57.17 | IDEATH | lol |
| 13:57.25 | HP-X|Arthas | sounds = boom boom bang |
| 13:57.25 | Agouti | the actor you are creating |
| 13:57.27 | Agouti | MUST |
| 13:57.31 | Agouti | be of type model |
| 13:57.45 | Mexa_ | Back |
| 13:57.45 | Agouti | if there isn't an actor of type model which uses the beacon model |
| 13:57.47 | HP-X|Arthas | are you creating a unit from scratch? |
| 13:57.49 | Agouti | then make one |
| 13:57.50 | Agouti | no |
| 13:58.02 | Mexa_ | Have I missed anything special recently? |
| 13:58.11 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa_ not really |
| 13:58.18 | HP-X|Arthas | also i need your opinion on something |
| 13:58.27 | IDEATH | it has an actor |
| 13:58.27 | Mexa_ | I see |
| 13:58.27 | HP-X|Arthas | are you familiar with arbetsförmedlingens job coaching? |
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| 13:58.33 | Mexa_ | Oh |
| 13:58.37 | Mexa_ | Nope, I'm not |
| 13:58.52 | Agouti | IDEATH, there is a actor of type Unit by default |
| 13:58.54 | Mexa_ | Ask another swede :P |
| 13:58.57 | Agouti | please pay attention |
| 13:59.02 | Mexa_ | Potentially Jum-Jum or nash |
| 13:59.02 | HP-X|Arthas | The way I understand it its crap except they review the cv and they are all the same |
| 13:59.22 | HP-X|Arthas | would it then be a smart or stupid tactic to pick the places that had the cutest girls? |
| 13:59.26 | Agouti | If you aren't going to pay attention I won't bother |
| 13:59.27 | Agouti | honestly |
| 13:59.28 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 13:59.38 | IDEATH | im sorry... =( |
| 13:59.45 | Agouti | don't skim read what I type |
| 13:59.47 | Mexa_ | lol Arthas |
| 13:59.52 | Agouti | and if I type something you don't understand |
| 13:59.53 | Agouti | say it |
| 13:59.57 | Agouti | it will save time |
| 14:00.03 | Jum-Jum^ | huh? |
| 14:00.11 | HP-X|Arthas | Since when did this become a sc2 help channel :| |
| 14:00.12 | IDEATH | i do understand what actors are for the most part |
| 14:00.16 | Mexa_ | You'd probably be fired or try to avoid places where you try to hook someone, as a job career |
| 14:00.16 | Jum-Jum^ | HP-X|Arthas: It would be a smart idea. |
| 14:00.22 | HP-X|Arthas | Jum-Jum^: aight |
| 14:00.23 | Jum-Jum^ | Because the jobbcoaches and stuff is completely shit anyway |
| 14:00.32 | Agouti | OK, I'll say this a fourth time: You need an actor OF TYPE MODEL |
| 14:00.34 | HP-X|Arthas | Will do then |
| 14:00.35 | Agouti | TYPE= MODEL |
| 14:00.39 | Agouti | not unit |
| 14:00.42 | Agouti | not action |
| 14:00.47 | Agouti | not purple butterfly |
| 14:00.48 | IDEATH | ok so what does THAT mean? |
| 14:00.50 | Jum-Jum | Well sometimes it can depend, theres this one lady who helped me a lot. She were actually looking for jobs that I was interested in which is hard to find |
| 14:00.55 | IDEATH | lol |
| 14:00.58 | Agouti | right, now wer are getting somewhere |
| 14:00.59 | Jum-Jum | Then I had the others which just nagged and complained |
| 14:01.01 | Jum-Jum | and ate your soul |
| 14:01.05 | HP-X|Arthas | was 2 w ago i visited and looked at them, dont recall which one was cuter so ill take the location closest to me |
| 14:01.05 | Agouti | look on the left hand side |
| 14:01.07 | Agouti | notice |
| 14:01.08 | Mexa_ | Or maybe I misunderstund everything you were looking for. |
| 14:01.11 | Mexa_ | Herpderp |
| 14:01.12 | Agouti | 5 columns |
| 14:01.16 | Agouti | Actor Name |
| 14:01.18 | Agouti | Source |
| 14:01.18 | Booom3 | any EU sc2 players around to play? |
| 14:01.21 | HP-X|Arthas | Jum-Jum: ie, she did her job :D |
| 14:01.21 | Agouti | Actor Type |
| 14:01.22 | Agouti | ^^^^^ |
| 14:01.29 | Jum-Jum | yea |
| 14:01.41 | IDEATH | yeah |
| 14:01.42 | Agouti | there are many different types of actors |
| 14:01.49 | Agouti | each do different things |
| 14:01.56 | Agouti | you will need to create a new actor |
| 14:02.08 | Agouti | and for Actor Type |
| 14:02.11 | Agouti | select Model |
| 14:02.35 | HP-X|Arthas | Jum-Jum Mexa|Zug help me out here |
| 14:02.44 | HP-X|Arthas | Bekant med C, C++, C# och Java |
| 14:02.44 | Agouti | if you haven't already |
| 14:02.56 | Agouti | select all the buttons across the top middle |
| 14:02.57 | HP-X|Arthas | then if you can actually do neat stuff with like PHP |
| 14:02.59 | Agouti | except Raw Data |
| 14:03.02 | Jum-Jum | HP-X|Arthas: Har 0 erfarenhet när det gäller kodning. :E |
| 14:03.03 | Agouti | the big square buttons |
| 14:03.05 | HP-X|Arthas | what would you say rather than "Bekant med" |
| 14:03.11 | HP-X|Arthas | Yeah, but im looking for keywords |
| 14:03.22 | Agouti | be quite euro trash ;) |
| 14:03.24 | Agouti | er |
| 14:03.25 | Agouti | quiet* |
| 14:03.27 | HP-X|Arthas | quiet* |
| 14:03.27 | Agouti | ^ |
| 14:03.32 | HP-X|Arthas | shaddap |
| 14:03.36 | Agouti | HAHA SELF CORRECTED |
| 14:03.37 | HP-X|Arthas | dont you have a script to write |
| 14:03.44 | Agouti | :< |
| 14:03.53 | Agouti | I may have several bugs to fix... |
| 14:03.53 | HP-X|Arthas | So, sixen is the lackee |
| 14:03.57 | HP-X|Arthas | and the boss is ? |
| 14:04.04 | Agouti | he is the techy genius |
| 14:04.07 | IDEATH | ok i already have |
| 14:04.08 | HP-X|Arthas | or is the main cast the boss |
| 14:04.11 | Agouti | like that geely kid |
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| 14:04.14 | Agouti | out of fast n furious |
| 14:04.17 | IDEATH | create new actor right? |
| 14:04.24 | Agouti | yes |
| 14:04.24 | HP-X|Arthas | So, dont put him in a car |
| 14:04.25 | Agouti | set type |
| 14:04.26 | Agouti | Model |
| 14:04.31 | HP-X|Arthas | He'll turbo way too fast |
| 14:04.35 | HP-X|Arthas | and lose the car :( |
| 14:04.38 | Agouti | ^ |
| 14:04.47 | Agouti | god that series went to crap |
| 14:04.50 | Agouti | anyway |
| 14:04.53 | Agouti | he is the ubergeek |
| 14:04.56 | HP-X|Arthas | did anyone watch the latest? |
| 14:05.00 | HP-X|Arthas | ie, is it closer to the first |
| 14:05.01 | Agouti | I got half way through |
| 14:05.06 | HP-X|Arthas | than the other 88 |
| 14:05.11 | Agouti | oh btw |
| 14:05.15 | HP-X|Arthas | was the 2nd one even about cars :D |
| 14:05.17 | Mexa|Zug | Arthas, what you need? |
| 14:05.19 | Agouti | apparently it's easy to go backwards |
| 14:05.21 | Agouti | at highway speed |
| 14:05.26 | Agouti | with a double hitch trailer behind |
| 14:05.35 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa|Zug a word to describe the knowledge |
| 14:05.35 | Agouti | it won't jack-knife or anything |
| 14:05.37 | HP-X|Arthas | a nice word |
| 14:05.48 | RndmObjcts | anyone nifty with abilities in here? i have a passive that i had working correctly and now it just stopped and i cant figure out why |
| 14:05.49 | HP-X|Arthas | Bekant med, ie can read and write code to some degree |
| 14:06.03 | Mexa|Zug | familiar? |
| 14:06.03 | HP-X|Arthas | then for php which im way more familiar with.... in swedish you'd use what to describe it? |
| 14:06.17 | Agouti | in what way, RndmObjcts ? |
| 14:06.20 | Mexa|Zug | @_@ ? |
| 14:06.31 | Agouti | noting that passive abilities don't really do much |
| 14:06.34 | IDEATH | Agouti Based On: CActorModel right? |
| 14:06.37 | Agouti | you still need the behaviour on the unit |
| 14:06.38 | HP-X|Arthas | hmm |
| 14:06.39 | Agouti | default |
| 14:06.44 | Mexa|Zug | Start from the beginning |
| 14:06.46 | Jum-Jum | HP-X|Arthas: in what context? :E |
| 14:06.49 | HP-X|Arthas | cv |
| 14:06.50 | Agouti | if I don't tell you to change it don't change it IDEATH ;) |
| 14:07.02 | Jum-Jum | Bättre att skriva någonting i stil med "Jag har kunskaper i..." |
| 14:07.06 | RndmObjcts | Agouti: it just no longer works, its a passive that gives the unit health movement and speed if it drops below 30% hp |
| 14:07.09 | Mexa|Zug | erfarenhet |
| 14:07.14 | IDEATH | ... |
| 14:07.14 | Jum-Jum | aa |
| 14:07.15 | Mexa|Zug | kunskap |
| 14:07.18 | RndmObjcts | health and movement speed* |
| 14:07.20 | HP-X|Arthas | Ah |
| 14:07.22 | HP-X|Arthas | Bra kunskap |
| 14:07.24 | Jum-Jum | :> |
| 14:07.25 | HP-X|Arthas | might do it |
| 14:07.30 | Jum-Jum | and now back to english |
| 14:07.33 | Agouti | RndmObjcts, so the behaviour is on the unit all the time |
| 14:07.37 | Jum-Jum | before they start bringing out the pitches and forks |
| 14:07.41 | Mexa|Zug | :p |
| 14:07.44 | IDEATH | name? doodad type? copy from? |
| 14:07.53 | RndmObjcts | its attached to the ability with a validator so yes i suppose so |
| 14:07.54 | Agouti | with a validator (disable) Unit Healt LE30% ? |
| 14:07.59 | IDEATH | those are important |
| 14:08.07 | Agouti | and should be left default |
| 14:08.12 | Agouti | like I said |
| 14:08.18 | Agouti | if I don't say to play with something |
| 14:08.21 | Agouti | don't play with it |
| 14:08.36 | Agouti | default values are default for a reason ;) |
| 14:08.41 | IDEATH | ok now what? |
| 14:08.53 | Agouti | did you do what I told you earlier? turn all the buttons on? |
| 14:09.02 | Agouti | across the top? |
| 14:09.06 | Agouti | (except for raw data) |
| 14:09.29 | IDEATH | yep |
| 14:09.35 | Agouti | RndmObjcts, the behaviour needs to be on the unit under Behaviours+ |
| 14:09.38 | Agouti | ok |
| 14:09.45 | Agouti | after you create the actor |
| 14:09.50 | Agouti | goto Art - Model |
| 14:10.30 | Agouti | select Beacon_Protoss |
| 14:10.34 | IDEATH | k |
| 14:10.42 | Agouti | now |
| 14:10.45 | RndmObjcts | Agouti: yes it is |
| 14:10.51 | Agouti | go back to your immortal actor |
| 14:11.02 | Agouti | and set under it's events |
| 14:11.19 | Agouti | unit birth immortal, create (whatever you called the actor) |
| 14:11.39 | Agouti | RndmObjcts, make sure you have the validator on the behaviour on Disable not Removed |
| 14:11.42 | Agouti | -d |
| 14:11.50 | RndmObjcts | Agouti: the only thing ive changed, other than my ui which has nothing to do with it, is i have the unit no longer randomly attacking targets, he only attacks if you tell him too. and alright i'll check it |
| 14:11.56 | Agouti | yeah |
| 14:11.58 | Agouti | don't trust that |
| 14:12.10 | Agouti | GE can and will randomly break things of it's own accord |
| 14:12.26 | Agouti | you need to go over it all with a fine tooth comb to find what it did |
| 14:13.00 | Agouti | failing that delete it all and remake |
| 14:13.03 | Agouti | sad but true |
| 14:13.12 | Agouti | or revert to a backup |
| 14:13.51 | Agouti | RndmObjcts, so you set the Passive flag on the unit and it broke the behaviour? |
| 14:14.18 | Agouti | actually, on a side note, I've noticed that since the last patch if you set a unit as Passive it breaks attack move |
| 14:14.27 | Agouti | which is annoying |
| 14:14.39 | IDEATH | omfg. its not there... |
| 14:14.48 | RndmObjcts | Agouti: i changed his weapon i believe so he no longer just acquires targets |
| 14:15.00 | IDEATH | its just NOT THERE! |
| 14:16.12 | Agouti | oh, sorry |
| 14:16.15 | Agouti | forgot |
| 14:16.24 | Agouti | go back to the model actor the beacon |
| 14:16.27 | Agouti | the one you created |
| 14:16.35 | RndmObjcts | Agouti: hmm im looking at the behavior now and it has Behavior validators (Disabled) and another Behavior Validator (Removed) could that be it? and please take your time with IDeath im not in a hurry or anything. I appriciated the help :) |
| 14:16.41 | Agouti | double click on Host+ |
| 14:16.46 | Agouti | under Subject |
| 14:16.49 | Agouti | set to Alias |
| 14:16.50 | Agouti | _Unit |
| 14:17.21 | Agouti | RndmObjcts, what is the validator under Removed? should it have a validator which removes the behaviour? |
| 14:17.50 | Agouti | I'm guessing not, by the sounds |
| 14:17.55 | RndmObjcts | Agouti: there is nothing on either, the validator activates the behavior |
| 14:18.09 | Agouti | wha? |
| 14:18.19 | Agouti | you just said it had a validator (remove) |
| 14:18.28 | Agouti | make up your mind O_o |
| 14:18.33 | RndmObjcts | Agouti: its a if life is less than 0.3 then the behavior kicks in with the attrivutes |
| 14:18.37 | RndmObjcts | attributes* |
| 14:18.49 | Agouti | ok |
| 14:18.50 | IDEATH | its still not showing up... |
| 14:18.52 | Agouti | tell me exactly |
| 14:18.55 | RndmObjcts | and what i mean is i see both disabled and removed but neither of them have anything attached to them |
| 14:19.00 | Agouti | what is set under both those validator fields |
| 14:19.10 | Agouti | for the behaviour |
| 14:19.12 | RndmObjcts | nothing |
| 14:20.45 | Agouti | well that is clearly wrong |
| 14:20.52 | IDEATH | the actor still isn't showing up in the list |
| 14:21.05 | Agouti | there should be a validator for Health LE30% under Validator (Disable) |
| 14:21.20 | Agouti | you did name it, didn't you, IDEATH ? |
| 14:21.27 | IDEATH | yes |
| 14:22.01 | Agouti | well |
| 14:22.04 | Agouti | it will be there |
| 14:22.06 | Agouti | in the list |
| 14:22.11 | Agouti | called whatever it is that you called it |
| 14:22.47 | IDEATH | well the actor type for it is model |
| 14:22.54 | IDEATH | the others are units |
| 14:23.02 | IDEATH | that might be it |
| 14:23.12 | Agouti | you are not being clear |
| 14:23.20 | Agouti | use more words |
| 14:24.56 | IDEATH | well the list on the left with the categories Actor Name, Source, Actor Type, Parent, Doodad Type... |
| 14:25.04 | Agouti | yes |
| 14:25.12 | Ashamed_ | good fucking morning |
| 14:25.17 | Agouti | is it? |
| 14:25.24 | Vail|sleep | yeah |
| 14:25.25 | Agouti | I'll have to let the gf know |
| 14:25.29 | IDEATH | under actor type for the actor i made is model |
| 14:25.43 | IDEATH | instead of unit, like the others are |
| 14:25.58 | IDEATH | lol |
| 14:25.59 | Agouti | and you called it? |
| 14:26.12 | IDEATH | Beacon_Protoss111 |
| 14:26.32 | Agouti | Why'd you call it that? |
| 14:26.34 | Agouti | O_o |
| 14:26.35 | Agouti | anyway |
| 14:26.53 | IDEATH | because! |
| 14:26.55 | IDEATH | lol |
| 14:26.57 | Agouti | What is the problem? |
| 14:27.07 | Agouti | Be clear about what you are saying |
| 14:27.16 | IDEATH | its not showing up on the list |
| 14:27.17 | Agouti | use as much detail as possible |
| 14:27.23 | Agouti | "the list" is not detail |
| 14:27.27 | Agouti | there are many lists |
| 14:27.47 | Agouti | I want you to use at least 4 adjectives per line |
| 14:28.19 | Ashamed_ | :( |
| 14:28.22 | IDEATH | the list that drops down when I am in the action of the immortal actor |
| 14:28.51 | IDEATH | the action of the event |
| 14:28.55 | IDEATH | unit birth |
| 14:29.03 | Agouti | you have selected Create |
| 14:29.07 | Agouti | then under Name |
| 14:29.12 | Agouti | you have selected Actor |
| 14:29.15 | Agouti | then from the drop box |
| 14:29.31 | IDEATH | yes |
| 14:29.50 | Agouti | well, unless you named it something stupid |
| 14:29.52 | Agouti | it will be there |
| 14:30.45 | Agouti | http://filesmelt.com/dl/map_for_ideath.SC2Map |
| 14:30.47 | Agouti | there |
| 14:30.51 | Agouti | I did exactly what I said |
| 14:30.55 | Agouti | and made that |
| 14:30.58 | Agouti | and it works |
| 14:31.09 | Agouti | test, type in makeunit Immortal |
| 14:31.11 | HP-X|Arthas | nice Agouti is making maps for us |
| 14:31.14 | Agouti | and it will be there |
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| 14:31.20 | RndmObjcts | sorry i had a phone call |
| 14:31.26 | IDEATH | omfg its not there |
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| 14:31.34 | HP-X|Arthas | Agouti: I want a working homm battle system (with heroes 2 formulas) for sc2 |
| 14:31.36 | IDEATH | its just NOT THERE |
| 14:31.37 | HP-X|Arthas | it should be dynamic |
| 14:31.54 | RndmObjcts | i just tried putting the validator under remove and it still doesnt work |
| 14:32.00 | Agouti | Arthas, I want a hot female nymphomaniac living next door |
| 14:32.07 | Agouti | she should find me attractive |
| 14:32.08 | Agouti | and be single |
| 14:32.28 | HP-X|Arthas | you do, she also wants marriage and kids |
| 14:32.34 | Agouti | RndmObjcts, of course it won't work |
| 14:32.34 | HP-X|Arthas | Go for it! |
| 14:32.34 | Ashamed_ | ARTHAS |
| 14:32.40 | Agouti | it will remove the behaviour |
| 14:32.41 | IDEATH | im clicking on the damn link and its not downloading... |
| 14:32.42 | Vailreth | or live with her equally hot female and nymphomanic girlfriend? |
| 14:32.43 | HP-X|Arthas | uh oh, Ashamed_ is angry ::< |
| 14:32.55 | HP-X|Arthas | hides |
| 14:33.03 | Agouti | it works, IDEATH |
| 14:33.04 | Agouti | sorry |
| 14:33.14 | Agouti | but you have just exceeded your patience quota |
| 14:33.21 | Ashamed_ | no |
| 14:33.25 | Ashamed_ | wats up |
| 14:33.27 | IDEATH | i fucking swear to god this pisses me off to NO END |
| 14:33.29 | HP-X|Arthas | Not much |
| 14:33.38 | HP-X|Arthas | Refining my CV, thinking about getting some food |
| 14:33.44 | HP-X|Arthas | And then map a little tonight |
| 14:33.50 | Mexa|Zug | Ashamed, hi |
| 14:34.01 | Agouti | I've spent nearly an hour and a half helping you do a 30 second task, and I've had enough |
| 14:34.02 | Ashamed | good morning mexa :) |
| 14:34.04 | HP-X|Arthas | or if Dustin is around do some code cleaning :p |
| 14:34.06 | Ashamed | or good evening for you |
| 14:34.15 | Agouti | technically morning here |
| 14:34.16 | Mexa|Zug | afternoon it is :) |
| 14:34.19 | Vailreth | RndmObjcts: what are you trying to do with your validator? |
| 14:34.25 | HP-X|Arthas | you just woke up?! |
| 14:34.30 | Agouti | there, somebody else can be the guru |
| 14:34.33 | Agouti | I have a game to play |
| 14:34.38 | RndmObjcts | Vailreth: a passive ability ive had working suddenly doesnt work anymore lol |
| 14:34.41 | HP-X|Arthas | Agouti: and that game is? |
| 14:34.46 | Agouti | HOARD :D |
| 14:34.46 | Mexa|Zug | Hey Ashamed? |
| 14:34.51 | HP-X|Arthas | Final Fantasy Memorial? |
| 14:34.53 | HP-X|Arthas | oh |
| 14:35.01 | Agouti | na the cheapo steam indy game |
| 14:35.02 | HP-X|Arthas | That was my second guess |
| 14:35.07 | IDEATH | ok |
| 14:35.14 | Vailreth | how did the ability do what it did? |
| 14:35.16 | IDEATH | i used a different browser |
| 14:35.28 | Mexa|Zug | I should do something about my desktop, shouldn't I? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2757798/shitdesktop.jpg <.< |
| 14:35.47 | HP-X|Arthas | Yeah, change background |
| 14:35.52 | HP-X|Arthas | Not enough skin |
| 14:35.53 | Mexa|Zug | Nay |
| 14:35.58 | Mexa|Zug | the shortcuts |
| 14:35.58 | Mexa|Zug | :p |
| 14:36.01 | RndmObjcts | Vailreth: it used the validator of less than or equal to 30% hp to start a behavior of attribute changes |
| 14:36.07 | HP-X|Arthas | Ecco the dolphin folder |
| 14:36.08 | HP-X|Arthas | neat |
| 14:36.11 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa|Zug: depends |
| 14:36.17 | HP-X|Arthas | I usually get the same hell |
| 14:36.23 | RndmObjcts | Vailreth: if the unit hit 30% hp it would give it movement speed and hp |
| 14:36.24 | HP-X|Arthas | create a folder called "Desktop", move everything in there |
| 14:36.28 | Ashamed | mexa looks like mine at work lol |
| 14:36.29 | Mexa|Zug | If I change resolution to any less than 1080p, they don't fit on the screen ;O |
| 14:36.36 | Ashamed | but i just put them all in a file lol |
| 14:36.39 | HP-X|Arthas | I ended up with 5x desktop folders once :| |
| 14:36.44 | Mexa|Zug | lol |
| 14:36.47 | HP-X|Arthas | if you have those, yeah. clean up |
| 14:36.56 | HP-X|Arthas | if not, its ok. just create the folder ;D |
| 14:36.57 | Mexa|Zug | I'd rather clean them up instead of delay the problem:P |
| 14:37.12 | HP-X|Arthas | select all -> delete |
| 14:37.14 | Vailreth | and its not working how? |
| 14:37.24 | HP-X|Arthas | after sorting tools & folders out |
| 14:37.27 | Mexa|Zug | Arthas, no, I actually need to go through alot of them |
| 14:37.28 | Vailreth | not turning off or not coming on? |
| 14:37.29 | Mexa|Zug | yeah |
| 14:37.44 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=odip7u2ad5pyukn&thumb=6 |
| 14:37.50 | HP-X|Arthas | Should I do anything about ma room |
| 14:38.05 | HP-X|Arthas | since we are posting pics im joining in! |
| 14:38.15 | RndmObjcts | Vailreth: its not coming on, im guessing its because the validator is no longer attached to the behavior but its been so long since i made the ability i forget how to reconnect it xD lmao. |
| 14:38.19 | Mexa|Zug | Arthas, this desktop fits me better, had it before: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2757798/dekstop.jpg |
| 14:38.26 | RndmObjcts | Vailreth: ive been learning how to make my ui for some time now |
| 14:38.41 | Mexa|Zug | Ohnoes, clothes on the chair? Untidied bed? |
| 14:38.42 | Ashamed | thats not too bad arthas |
| 14:38.46 | HP-X|Arthas | I see hurr.SC2map, but no durr.SC2map |
| 14:38.48 | Ashamed | got yo server too |
| 14:38.49 | HP-X|Arthas | What gives |
| 14:38.58 | HP-X|Arthas | Ashamed: ive got 4 more :p |
| 14:38.59 | HP-X|Arthas | or so |
| 14:39.08 | HP-X|Arthas | more incoming, just need to figure out what to do with them |
| 14:39.09 | Vailreth | i believe the validator only worths to turn things off unless its condition is met |
| 14:39.09 | Mexa|Zug | Arthas, it might be in another folder;P |
| 14:39.25 | HP-X|Arthas | i think there's a router on that pic too |
| 14:39.34 | IDEATH | i noticed that you added events, what were they again? |
| 14:39.36 | HP-X|Arthas | it might be under the robe |
| 14:39.50 | Mexa|Zug | a router huh |
| 14:40.02 | Mexa|Zug | lol |
| 14:40.03 | HP-X|Arthas | ya a few oldie cisco routers and switches |
| 14:40.05 | HP-X|Arthas | for labbin |
| 14:40.09 | RndmObjcts | Vailreth: actually im wrong because the validator is attached to the ability still, its an auto cast validator |
| 14:40.13 | IDEATH | Agouti i noticed that you added events, what were they again? |
| 14:40.31 | Vailreth | auto cast validators are for autocast targeting ... |
| 14:40.50 | Mexa|Zug | Arthas, you should throw out the ancient computer display |
| 14:40.57 | Mexa|Zug | Or donate it to Nash |
| 14:41.02 | HP-X|Arthas | lol |
| 14:41.02 | Vailreth | when you apply the behavior to a unit directly does it work? |
| 14:41.03 | Mexa|Zug | He needs another one :D |
| 14:41.05 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=nojwg3l9tav725r&thumb=6 |
| 14:41.11 | HP-X|Arthas | i lub my crt |
| 14:41.18 | HP-X|Arthas | its so heavy! |
| 14:41.30 | Mexa|Zug | That corner there |
| 14:41.31 | HP-X|Arthas | to hell with comfortable chairs! |
| 14:41.36 | RndmObjcts | Vailreth: yea i understand that, i had it working properly then it just quit though, it auto targets self if the conditions are met |
| 14:41.43 | RndmObjcts | Vailreth: but now it just doesnt do anything |
| 14:41.44 | HP-X|Arthas | and bills (on the floor) |
| 14:41.44 | Mexa|Zug | Not looking like it could contain dusty insects at all. |
| 14:41.51 | Bob-Bill | My dad is Terran |
| 14:41.56 | Vailreth | hm |
| 14:41.57 | HP-X|Arthas | lol Mexa|Zug http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=t0t9o4oqm5sd6m6&thumb=6 |
| 14:42.00 | RndmObjcts | Vailreth: if you would like to look at it i can send you the map file |
| 14:42.07 | HP-X|Arthas | taken at the same occation |
| 14:42.07 | Vailreth | ok |
| 14:42.10 | Mexa|Zug | Gross |
| 14:42.14 | Mexa|Zug | ;O |
| 14:42.14 | HP-X|Arthas | its over 1m |
| 14:42.22 | HP-X|Arthas | first dust snake ive ever seen |
| 14:42.22 | Mexa|Zug | You know that shit can explode? |
| 14:42.27 | RndmObjcts | Vailreth: open a pm with me and tell me your e-mail and i'll send it, i dont know how to open pms on irc lol |
| 14:42.29 | Vailreth | i am a visual problem solver, if you dont mind i would love to take a look |
| 14:42.34 | Agouti | in the model actor, IDEATH ? |
| 14:42.35 | Ashamed | arthas |
| 14:42.35 | Ashamed | old |
| 14:42.39 | HP-X|Arthas | Ashamed: yeah |
| 14:42.43 | Ashamed | you showed that pic like 6 months ago |
| 14:42.45 | Agouti | they just make it play it's stand animation |
| 14:42.47 | Ashamed | you fucken tool |
| 14:42.55 | HP-X|Arthas | i didnt take any new pics :D |
| 14:42.57 | Ashamed | swedes all lying and shit |
| 14:43.03 | RndmObjcts | Vailreth: its all good :) its my first map so im not stressing handing it out lol. its just for practice manly |
| 14:43.08 | IDEATH | yes |
| 14:43.17 | HP-X|Arthas | why, you want new pics? |
| 14:43.27 | Ashamed | you picked it up already yes? |
| 14:43.30 | Mexa|Zug | Needs more cleaning |
| 14:43.37 | Bob-Bill | i have a shirt with 2 protoss blowing each other |
| 14:43.41 | HP-X|Arthas | yeah, but its more or less back to that situation in the pics |
| 14:45.14 | Mexa|Zug | Arthas, "[16:44:03] Gustav: eww vems rum är det" |
| 14:45.16 | Mexa|Zug | :3 |
| 14:45.21 | Ashamed | hey |
| 14:45.22 | Ashamed | HEY |
| 14:45.28 | Ashamed | THIS IS A ENGLISH CHAT |
| 14:45.33 | Ashamed | AN ENGLISH* |
| 14:45.39 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa|Zug: hahahaha |
| 14:45.40 | Mexa|Zug | It was under citation marks |
| 14:45.52 | Ashamed | Whats it say >< ? |
| 14:45.52 | Mexa|Zug | Thus approved .-. |
| 14:46.06 | Mexa|Zug | it says, 'eew, who's room is that' |
| 14:46.07 | Ashamed | i will just google translate if you don't tell me |
| 14:46.10 | Ashamed | oh |
| 14:46.18 | Ashamed | you swedes |
| 14:46.21 | HP-X|Arthas | the dustrat? |
| 14:46.23 | HP-X|Arthas | err |
| 14:46.25 | HP-X|Arthas | dustsnake? |
| 14:46.28 | Ashamed | all talking to eachother about dirty rooms |
| 14:46.38 | Mexa|Zug | lol |
| 14:46.48 | Helral|Afk | they're prolly talking bout darkrooms.... |
| 14:47.27 | HP-X|Arthas | wanna see my desktop Mexa|Zug :p |
| 14:47.34 | Mexa|Zug | Is it dusty? |
| 14:47.45 | Ashamed | its dusty |
| 14:47.58 | Mexa|Zug | I'll take your pic and put it as my desktop, hurrdurr... |
| 14:48.11 | HP-X|Arthas | no |
| 14:48.12 | HP-X|Arthas | its nice |
| 14:48.14 | Ashamed | man mexa you would |
| 14:48.23 | HP-X|Arthas | mine is actually clean :| |
| 14:48.31 | HP-X|Arthas | somewhat anyways |
| 14:48.32 | Ashamed | yeah arthas is just messy in rl |
| 14:48.47 | Ashamed | but virtually he is all clean |
| 14:49.00 | Mexa|Zug | Somwhat, or did you just disguise it by putting it into 'srs' folders? |
| 14:49.11 | Ashamed | oh shit |
| 14:49.12 | HP-X|Arthas | no |
| 14:49.22 | Ashamed | mexa caught onto the game arthas |
| 14:49.24 | HP-X|Arthas | i formatted computer 8 months ago or so |
| 14:49.29 | Mexa|Zug | 8months? |
| 14:49.38 | Ashamed | FIGHT |
| 14:49.39 | Mexa|Zug | That's not enough to maintain a desktop |
| 14:49.47 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 14:49.49 | Ashamed | I think we are going to have a desktop fight right hurrrr |
| 14:50.26 | Mexa|Zug | I think I formatted mine at the winter holidays |
| 14:50.35 | Ashamed | lol |
| 14:50.35 | Mexa|Zug | Need to fresh it up soon again |
| 14:50.42 | HP-X|Arthas | ive been tempted to, i kinda need to redo it |
| 14:50.58 | Mexa|Zug | ,m |
| 14:51.08 | HP-X|Arthas | how does one use dropbox |
| 14:51.17 | Mexa|Zug | Simple |
| 14:51.23 | Mexa|Zug | Select a folder you want to be dropboxed |
| 14:51.24 | Ashamed | arthas |
| 14:51.25 | Ashamed | you just use it |
| 14:51.27 | Mexa|Zug | place stuff in there |
| 14:51.33 | HP-X|Arthas | placing now |
| 14:51.35 | Mexa|Zug | and copy it's link |
| 14:51.46 | Mexa|Zug | D: |
| 14:51.52 | Mexa|Zug | But you didn't use my referral D: |
| 14:52.00 | HP-X|Arthas | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15224363/clean-desktop.png |
| 14:52.01 | HP-X|Arthas | thar |
| 14:52.32 | HP-X|Arthas | much cleaner :| |
| 14:52.41 | Mexa|Zug | lol |
| 14:52.42 | HP-X|Arthas | although lots of duplicates! |
| 14:52.51 | Mexa|Zug | You're using a windows 7 RC? |
| 14:52.58 | HP-X|Arthas | nope |
| 14:53.05 | Mexa|Zug | Unregistred then? |
| 14:53.10 | HP-X|Arthas | i did however fuck the installation up |
| 14:53.14 | Mexa|Zug | lol |
| 14:53.20 | Mexa|Zug | Test Mode |
| 14:53.23 | HP-X|Arthas | doesnt even boot right |
| 14:53.23 | HP-X|Arthas | yeah |
| 14:53.28 | HP-X|Arthas | in order to install unsigned drivers |
| 14:53.37 | HP-X|Arthas | for transferring roms to a gba casette |
| 14:53.47 | Mexa|Zug | so, what's the point of having mirc and other console screen chats at the same time? |
| 14:53.57 | Ashamed | um arthas i must ask whats with the desktop picture lol? |
| 14:54.18 | HP-X|Arthas | Ashamed: majoras mask + 9/11 :p |
| 14:54.34 | Mexa|Zug | Do you really need 3 shortcuts to diablo? |
| 14:54.47 | HP-X|Arthas | one is d2loader I think |
| 14:54.49 | HP-X|Arthas | one is windowed |
| 14:54.51 | HP-X|Arthas | and one is nromal |
| 14:54.53 | HP-X|Arthas | normal |
| 14:54.55 | Mexa|Zug | d2loader |
| 14:54.59 | Mexa|Zug | you cheater :V |
| 14:54.59 | HP-X|Arthas | ya |
| 14:55.02 | HP-X|Arthas | what? |
| 14:55.21 | HP-X|Arthas | d2loader in order to play multiple instances on bnet at the same time rather than using multiple computers / vms :p |
| 14:55.25 | Mexa|Zug | I know that |
| 14:55.39 | Mexa|Zug | How does that resolve cdkey issues? |
| 14:55.53 | HP-X|Arthas | you inject the cdkeys only into mpqfiles |
| 14:56.00 | HP-X|Arthas | than use d2loader to load those aswell |
| 14:56.01 | Mexa|Zug | meh |
| 14:56.08 | Mexa|Zug | third party injecting |
| 14:56.15 | HP-X|Arthas | nah |
| 14:56.17 | HP-X|Arthas | -mpq in diablo2 |
| 14:56.19 | HP-X|Arthas | iirc |
| 14:56.30 | HP-X|Arthas | d2loader just bypasses the 1x running instance only |
| 14:56.37 | Mexa|Zug | meh |
| 14:56.45 | HP-X|Arthas | at least im not botting ;p |
| 14:56.49 | Mexa|Zug | d2loader is used in conjunction with botting |
| 14:57.02 | Mexa|Zug | So it was only an assumption |
| 14:57.16 | HP-X|Arthas | hehe |
| 14:57.33 | Mexa|Zug | Ohnoes, you have visual studio 2008? |
| 14:57.39 | HP-X|Arthas | y |
| 14:57.41 | Mexa|Zug | needs more 2010 |
| 14:57.54 | HP-X|Arthas | i has 2010 now |
| 14:58.18 | Mexa|Zug | Also |
| 14:58.23 | Mexa|Zug | Despite me having it |
| 14:58.34 | Mexa|Zug | the basic theme sucks |
| 14:58.39 | Mexa|Zug | ._. |
| 14:58.40 | HP-X|Arthas | I prefer it |
| 14:58.47 | Mexa|Zug | It's faster, I know that |
| 14:58.47 | HP-X|Arthas | i always put it on maximum performance :p |
| 14:58.51 | Mexa|Zug | But you can't fraps it |
| 14:58.57 | HP-X|Arthas | i dont fraps! |
| 14:59.04 | Mexa|Zug | And it's ugly |
| 14:59.05 | Mexa|Zug | :p |
| 14:59.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster burne- (d9186da5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.24.109.165) |
| 14:59.12 | burne- | DUM DUM DUm |
| 14:59.15 | burne- | finishing upload |
| 14:59.17 | Mexa|Zug | ohao |
| 14:59.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster Statharas (5e438b67@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.67.139.103) |
| 14:59.36 | IDEATH | Agouti, THANKS A LOT! I got it to work |
| 14:59.48 | Statharas | does anyone have a doodad model testing map :v? |
| 14:59.59 | IDEATH | Thanks for your patients and help! =D |
| 15:00.33 | Agouti | no worries, at least you got it :) |
| 15:05.53 | Ashamed | erg |
| 15:06.05 | Ashamed | 8 1/2 hours left of hell |
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| 15:18.46 | Rnuomer | hi =:D |
| 15:31.02 | Ashamed | 8 hours left of hell |
| 15:31.19 | Rnuomer | stop whining |
| 15:32.40 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 15:35.02 | RndmObjcts | with an ability such as psi storm where is the icon located that shows up on the unit in game? like if your in the psi storm in game theres a red icon that appears near the wireframe, where in the editor is that located? |
| 15:37.03 | JademusSreg | Behavior's UI shit. |
| 15:37.10 | RndmObjcts | alright thanks :) |
| 15:38.39 | JademusSreg | There is a Flag for Hidden, make sure that's turned off. |
| 15:38.49 | JademusSreg | Also, to make it red, you set Alignment to Negative. |
| 15:40.28 | RndmObjcts | im actually trying to hide them lol |
| 15:40.42 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 15:42.56 | Ashamed | tsk tsk jade |
| 15:43.00 | Ashamed | what you working on currently? |
| 15:43.28 | Agouti | actually, before I go to bed |
| 15:43.41 | Agouti | quick question, incase someone can save me having to work it out |
| 15:43.54 | Agouti | creating a model actor for an ability |
| 15:43.59 | JademusSreg | Currently, I'm working on Terraria. =D |
| 15:44.32 | JademusSreg | But seriously, Photon Cycles is still in medias res of an update. I'm waiting for Motive to get back to me. |
| 15:44.38 | Agouti | To stop it rotating with the host unit would I just turn off the inherited property? |
| 15:44.45 | JademusSreg | I allowed him to work on the map while I was on vacation. |
| 15:45.07 | Ashamed | should of gave it to me |
| 15:45.11 | Ashamed | it would be epic by now |
| 15:45.13 | JademusSreg | Ash, nope. |
| 15:45.16 | Ashamed | yep |
| 15:45.48 | Ashamed | time to move on to a new map now jade |
| 15:45.59 | Ashamed | you can update photon cycles all you want |
| 15:46.15 | JademusSreg | Ago, is there an example of what you're trying to do? Like Stimpack's model doesn't rotate. |
| 15:46.20 | RndmObjcts | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/team-recruitment/23141-we-are-legend-team-recruitment ;) |
| 15:46.30 | Agouti | I fired up the editor again to see |
| 15:46.30 | JademusSreg | Naw, Ash, map still needs to be improved. |
| 15:46.44 | Agouti | I believe disabling Rotation under Property Transfers for the actor should do the trick |
| 15:46.45 | JademusSreg | Then I'll work on something else if it appeals to me. |
| 15:47.31 | Agouti | nope, perhaps not |
| 15:47.31 | JademusSreg | I'd help Mephs with his tactical shit, but he's actually competent and doesn't need assistance. |
| 15:47.43 | Agouti | I have an actor created as a aura/range indicator |
| 15:47.56 | Agouti | and I want to stop it turning with the model it's hosted on |
| 15:48.00 | Agouti | unit* |
| 15:48.14 | Ashamed | help me with my concept map jade :) |
| 15:48.27 | Ashamed | not i dont need you |
| 15:48.41 | Agouti | turning of Rotation under Accepted Transfers *should* work |
| 15:48.43 | Agouti | but it does not |
| 15:49.32 | JademusSreg | "not i dont need you"? |
| 15:49.45 | JademusSreg | Double negative, so... you do need me? |
| 15:49.48 | Agouti | ignore his grammatical mistake Jade and think about my problem :) |
| 15:49.52 | *** part/#sc2mapster RndmObjcts (182195ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.33.149.237) |
| 15:50.50 | JademusSreg | I don't even have the editor open, I just suggest looking at examples that behave the way you desire. |
| 15:51.16 | Agouti | hmm, I didn't think that was the same set up |
| 15:51.19 | Agouti | but I will double check |
| 15:51.32 | JademusSreg | Or you could go super-lazy and duplicate Stimpack's actor shit and replace the model. |
| 15:51.58 | Agouti | Stimpack is ModelAnimationStyleOneShot |
| 15:52.03 | JademusSreg | Of course, that wouldn't be very informative. =D |
| 15:52.21 | Agouti | It's probably to do with how it's attached |
| 15:52.41 | JademusSreg | You can change object classes / parents, btw. |
| 15:52.46 | Agouti | annoying that Accepted Transfers does nothing, at least, not in this instance |
| 15:52.59 | Agouti | I am reluctant to, had bad bugs form from doing that in the past |
| 15:53.19 | JademusSreg | Understandable. |
| 15:54.43 | Agouti | Has been things hardcoded and only accessible by changing the type in the past |
| 15:54.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster mapman_ (4c4059eb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.64.89.235) |
| 15:54.53 | mapman_ | mornin mapmakers |
| 15:55.03 | Dustin | hi |
| 15:55.20 | mapman_ | (ãಠçಠ)ã彡â»ââ» |
| 15:56.12 | JademusSreg | That looks like anger at an overturned table. |
| 15:56.20 | mapman_ | it is lo.l |
| 15:56.45 | mapman_ | thats what I type in before leaving when I lose a 4v4 |
| 15:57.05 | Agouti | I'm sadly missing some characters there |
| 15:57.10 | mapman_ | but its a shame sc2 doesnt support the eye character |
| 15:57.21 | mapman_ | so it just puts a question mark |
| 15:57.32 | mapman_ | (ãç?)ã彡â»ââ» |
| 15:57.35 | mapman_ | ? |
| 15:57.41 | mapman_ | (ã?ç?)ã彡â»ââ» |
| 15:57.43 | mapman_ | like this |
| 15:57.48 | mapman_ | and its a bit less funny |
| 15:57.50 | mapman_ | :/ |
| 16:04.20 | Agouti | I like t(o_ot) myself |
| 16:07.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster Hobrow|Dhugal (~q@i59F455D2.versanet.de) |
| 16:07.46 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442d670f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.103.15) |
| 16:07.50 | Bounty | >< |
| 16:08.58 | MysT_DooM | anyone know a website that can waterlogo images to another image |
| 16:09.13 | Agouti | www.photoshop.com |
| 16:09.40 | MysT_DooM | website* |
| 16:10.02 | Agouti | ok then |
| 16:10.04 | Agouti | google.com |
| 16:10.08 | Agouti | cos it took me 10 seconds |
| 16:10.10 | Agouti | to find |
| 16:10.10 | Agouti | http://www.techmaish.com/5-online-watermark-tools-to-protect-your-images-and-screen-shots/ |
| 16:10.13 | *** join/#sc2mapster Vestras (~Vestras@0x573b79c4.hinqu1.dynamic.dsl.tele.dk) |
| 16:10.17 | Agouti | honestly |
| 16:10.26 | Agouti | not rocket science |
| 16:12.43 | Agouti | JademusSreg, whatever stops the stimpack icon from turning it's in the .m3 |
| 16:13.17 | Agouti | I even went as far as taking the model object for stim, giving it the .m3 I wanted, and testing it |
| 16:13.59 | Agouti | still rather annoyed that accepted transfers does nothing |
| 16:14.25 | Ashamed | so hell just become worse :( |
| 16:18.13 | mapman_ | bro |
| 16:18.17 | mapman_ | just google gimp |
| 16:18.27 | mapman_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:18.31 | Hobrow|Dhugal | anyone with knowlege about custom terrain texture sets here? |
| 16:18.57 | Agouti | Yes |
| 16:19.40 | mapman_ | or torrent photoshop |
| 16:19.44 | mapman_ | which I dont recommend |
| 16:19.52 | mapman_ | cuz photoshop is shit compared to gimp |
| 16:20.21 | mapman_ | and the and the former costs a few hundred bullets |
| 16:21.11 | mapman_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.46 | HP-X|Arthas | "torrent photoshop" + "costs a few hundred" wat |
| 16:22.43 | HP-X|Arthas | Agouti: haha, read your 10 seconds as 10 minutes |
| 16:23.41 | *** join/#sc2mapster Xan (55e2549e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.226.84.158) |
| 16:23.44 | Xan | hello mates |
| 16:23.47 | HP-X|Arthas | re |
| 16:23.54 | Vailreth | yo zan |
| 16:24.01 | Vailreth | Xanh |
| 16:24.07 | Xan | almost :) |
| 16:24.08 | Vailreth | arg |
| 16:24.12 | Vailreth | Xan |
| 16:24.18 | Xan | hi vail |
| 16:24.28 | Xan | sup |
| 16:24.56 | Vailreth | any way i was replaying the campagin and for the Out Break mission i made a bunch of hellions. and a marine medic ball |
| 16:25.06 | Vailreth | and plowed throught like it was easy |
| 16:26.02 | Vailreth | 14 marines and 14 medics..+ marine stim |
| 16:26.21 | Ashamed | i have never even touched teh campaign |
| 16:26.29 | Xan | what mission is that |
| 16:26.29 | HP-X|Arthas | pliers + broken nail = pain |
| 16:26.56 | Agouti | Out Break is the one you have to kill buildings by day and defend by night |
| 16:26.57 | Vailreth | the minehoff with the infested buildings |
| 16:26.57 | Agouti | iirc |
| 16:26.58 | Ashamed | pliers + throat = pain |
| 16:27.06 | Agouti | injury = pain |
| 16:27.07 | Agouti | FTFY |
| 16:27.08 | Xan | oh |
| 16:27.10 | Xan | the zombies |
| 16:27.11 | HP-X|Arthas | no need to use pliers on my throat though |
| 16:27.16 | *** part/#sc2mapster Rnuomer (~chatzilla@cpe-67-240-129-41.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 16:27.34 | Vailreth | when i get a chance this evening i will be replaying it |
| 16:28.13 | Vailreth | his time im going to pull some scvs off mining and send them along the bioball and keep that with the hellions |
| 16:28.14 | Xan | on ultra? |
| 16:28.26 | Xan | difficulty |
| 16:28.36 | Vailreth | not yet |
| 16:28.41 | Xan | do that |
| 16:28.42 | Xan | :P |
| 16:28.47 | Vailreth | not yet |
| 16:28.51 | mapman_ | Why can you convert text to string!!?? |
| 16:28.51 | mapman_ | ï¼â¯Â°â¡Â°ï¼â¯ï¸µ â»ââ»ï»¿ |
| 16:28.53 | Vailreth | i dont want to lose |
| 16:29.06 | Xan | ow |
| 16:29.34 | Agouti | mapmap_: I assume to stop you doing comparisons on player names |
| 16:30.42 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 16:30.48 | Vailreth | and in the mission where you have to collect terrazin canistors ... i made a roving bioball with marauders maries and medics with some goliath support and moved it around while my scvs built missile and perdition turrets on the alters .... |
| 16:31.00 | Vailreth | then i harvested four terrazine nodes at the same time |
| 16:31.45 | HP-X|Arthas | if string(playername) equals Agouti then kill unit(hero) |
| 16:31.56 | Agouti | ^ would be in every map |
| 16:31.58 | Agouti | and I would be sad |
| 16:32.00 | HP-X|Arthas | For sure |
| 16:32.03 | Agouti | so sad |
| 16:32.15 | Agouti | I can't believe this is impossible to do |
| 16:32.20 | Agouti | I just want it to not rotate |
| 16:32.27 | HP-X|Arthas | So in response to your question mapman_, it's because fans matter to blizzard. Even Agouti ! |
| 16:32.35 | Vailreth | what do you want to not rotate? |
| 16:32.43 | Agouti | an effect actor |
| 16:32.52 | Agouti | created hosted to a unit |
| 16:32.57 | Agouti | it turns with the unit |
| 16:33.01 | Agouti | which looks very silly |
| 16:33.03 | Vailreth | hm |
| 16:33.14 | Agouti | marine stim pack, which works the same way |
| 16:33.22 | Agouti | simply has a model which somehow cannot turn |
| 16:33.29 | Agouti | )open it up in the previewer) |
| 16:33.39 | Vailreth | and turning off the enherit rotation doesnt help? |
| 16:33.43 | Agouti | Accepted Transfers does nothing |
| 16:34.09 | Agouti | unless someone can find an actor with that non-default I'm going to assume it's a NYI feature |
| 16:34.12 | mapman_ | fans matter? |
| 16:34.15 | Agouti | yes |
| 16:34.16 | mapman_ | how does that make sense |
| 16:34.19 | Agouti | they blow air around |
| 16:34.27 | Agouti | and are very important for heat transfer |
| 16:34.28 | mapman_ | im a fan and i want a text convertion shit |
| 16:34.31 | mapman_ | and they won give it to me |
| 16:34.32 | mapman_ | ï¼â¯Â°â¡Â°ï¼â¯ï¸µ â»ââ»ï»¿ |
| 16:34.39 | Agouti | computers wouldn't work well without fans |
| 16:34.41 | Agouti | for a start |
| 16:34.48 | Agouti | Cars |
| 16:35.03 | HP-X|Arthas | mapman_ nor will you get it :p |
| 16:35.04 | mapman_ | and y no central bank blizz why? |
| 16:35.05 | mapman_ | ï¼â¯Â°â¡Â°ï¼â¯ï¸µ â»ââ»ï»¿ |
| 16:35.07 | Agouti | anything with a high efficiency heat exchanger, really |
| 16:35.23 | Vailreth | hm |
| 16:35.30 | HP-X|Arthas | mapman_: you could have the users type their own name in the beginning of the map, store the name as a string in a bank |
| 16:35.30 | Vailreth | let me try somethings |
| 16:35.50 | Agouti | by all means :) |
| 16:35.51 | mapman_ | yea and who is gonna put their real name |
| 16:35.52 | HP-X|Arthas | central bank? |
| 16:36.04 | mapman_ | ok you could |
| 16:36.04 | mapman_ | but |
| 16:36.05 | HP-X|Arthas | I dont want that, if that shows up, they'll lock down local banks for sure :< |
| 16:36.15 | mapman_ | what fuciking sucky map would ask you to type your name in lo0l |
| 16:36.18 | HP-X|Arthas | mapman_: well |
| 16:36.24 | JademusSreg | Mafia |
| 16:36.25 | HP-X|Arthas | mapman_: itll only ask once |
| 16:36.44 | HP-X|Arthas | and not that many casual players would know how to clear banks |
| 16:37.06 | mapman_ | mmm |
| 16:37.23 | mapman_ | and how do I ban hackers |
| 16:37.40 | mapman_ | from my map |
| 16:37.43 | HP-X|Arthas | have a list with playernames in the map |
| 16:37.47 | HP-X|Arthas | compare it to the bank values :p |
| 16:38.01 | HP-X|Arthas | ofc, hackers might figure out how to delete banks and then you are screwed ;p |
| 16:38.12 | mapman_ | interresting |
| 16:38.16 | mapman_ | ill try that |
| 16:38.22 | Agouti | viral data |
| 16:38.23 | HP-X|Arthas | but in this case you should really define hackers since im not sure what you mean |
| 16:38.24 | Agouti | is the only way |
| 16:38.30 | Agouti | to simulate central storage |
| 16:38.34 | mapman_ | agouti |
| 16:38.35 | mapman_ | yea |
| 16:38.40 | mapman_ | thats what Im doing |
| 16:38.50 | mapman_ | but it can be pretty efficient |
| 16:39.11 | Agouti | reliably generating a unique identifier for each player is tricky |
| 16:39.13 | mapman_ | if you store top 10 in each players bank |
| 16:39.15 | Agouti | not sure how you could do that |
| 16:39.20 | mapman_ | then in each ggame load these top 10 |
| 16:39.22 | HP-X|Arthas | Agouti: iirc you cant |
| 16:39.30 | mapman_ | and find the top 10 from all these integers |
| 16:39.48 | HP-X|Arthas | mapman_: what? |
| 16:39.54 | HP-X|Arthas | top10 players? |
| 16:40.17 | HP-X|Arthas | there is a slight problem with viral data as that |
| 16:40.22 | HP-X|Arthas | we lack timestamp |
| 16:40.26 | Agouti | easy to inject data into |
| 16:40.28 | Agouti | as well |
| 16:40.41 | HP-X|Arthas | for a top10 system it would work |
| 16:40.50 | Agouti | because you have to assume that each players bank is untainted |
| 16:41.09 | HP-X|Arthas | Agouti: did anyone figure out how to bypass the signed banks yet? |
| 16:41.26 | Ashamed | of course |
| 16:41.29 | Agouti | I thought they were never secure |
| 16:41.36 | Agouti | create a custom map with the same name |
| 16:41.37 | Agouti | Test |
| 16:41.42 | Agouti | then copy the bank across |
| 16:41.57 | Agouti | ofc the custom map you create will have code copied from the map you are hacking |
| 16:42.02 | HP-X|Arthas | and the signing part? |
| 16:42.04 | Agouti | with whatever changed that needed to be changed |
| 16:42.09 | HP-X|Arthas | ah |
| 16:42.11 | Agouti | afaik the sign will stay whole |
| 16:42.18 | Agouti | as long as the map name is the same |
| 16:42.19 | HP-X|Arthas | it doesnt use map or map creator parameters while signing? |
| 16:42.25 | Agouti | unsure |
| 16:42.31 | Agouti | that used to work, I heard |
| 16:42.57 | HP-X|Arthas | well that sucks :p |
| 16:43.43 | Agouti | I'm not up to date with how signing works |
| 16:44.02 | mapman_ | what do you mean arthas |
| 16:44.03 | Agouti | is just 16 bytes per map per player so much to ask? |
| 16:44.05 | Agouti | I mean |
| 16:44.13 | Agouti | they just gave us 50MB more space |
| 16:44.23 | Agouti | Can't I donate that space to bank storage? |
| 16:44.35 | Agouti | I only have a player base of 4k or something |
| 16:44.37 | mapman_ | hey can you tell me what a bank signature is |
| 16:44.41 | mapman_ | I been wondering |
| 16:44.46 | Agouti | that leaves plenty of space per player |
| 16:45.10 | HP-X|Arthas | mapman_: if what agouti says is correct, map signing is worthless :p |
| 16:45.17 | Agouti | used to be |
| 16:45.20 | Agouti | keyword |
| 16:45.20 | mapman_ | but what is it |
| 16:45.24 | mapman_ | ï¼â¯Â°â¡Â°ï¼â¯ï¸µ â»ââ»ï»¿ |
| 16:45.34 | Ashamed | :( |
| 16:46.01 | Agouti | I copypasta'd that btw |
| 16:46.03 | Agouti | mapman_ |
| 16:46.17 | mapman_ | sup |
| 16:46.18 | HP-X|Arthas | to sign a map should prove its authenticity (spelling?) |
| 16:46.19 | mapman_ | ? |
| 16:46.28 | Stewox_Away | wasnt there somehow to protect the galaxy code from thieft |
| 16:46.30 | Agouti | Agouti> I copypasta'd that btw |
| 16:46.33 | HP-X|Arthas | so if I play map X and it signs my bank |
| 16:46.33 | Stewox_Away | besides locking mechanism |
| 16:46.35 | Agouti | comma |
| 16:46.38 | Agouti | your name |
| 16:46.45 | Agouti | to indicate the phrase was directed at you |
| 16:47.01 | HP-X|Arthas | I can check sign and know its still the correct un-edited bank when a player returns |
| 16:47.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster burne- (d9186da5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.24.109.165) |
| 16:47.15 | HP-X|Arthas | Stewox_Away: obfuscation? |
| 16:47.15 | Agouti | AHA |
| 16:47.17 | Agouti | GOTCHA |
| 16:47.39 | Stewox_Away | dunno , the locking mechanism that prevents others from stealing code was useless i heard |
| 16:47.42 | Agouti | does a little dance |
| 16:47.56 | Stewox_Away | but some guy made some script algorthm to encode the galaxy ...etc |
| 16:47.57 | Agouti | it's standard practice |
| 16:48.14 | Agouti | been common for as long as interpreted languages have existed |
| 16:48.26 | burne- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEP6gAQCPcg&feature=topvideos_entertainment |
| 16:48.37 | burne- | I cant really understand stuff like this |
| 16:48.41 | burne- | -_- |
| 16:48.42 | Agouti | basic obfuscation removes whitespace and replaces variable and function names with gobble-d-gook |
| 16:48.46 | burne- | I guess its sorta interesting |
| 16:48.58 | Agouti | so instead of function makestuff(stufftomake) |
| 16:49.00 | HP-X|Arthas | burne-: lol |
| 16:49.07 | burne- | that one guy looks like he is having a seizure |
| 16:49.14 | Agouti | you get function I1III(1I1II) |
| 16:49.25 | Agouti | f.e. |
| 16:49.33 | Agouti | plus removing all white space |
| 16:49.34 | Agouti | comments |
| 16:49.48 | Agouti | anything that is syntax legal and makes it harder to read |
| 16:50.54 | Agouti | more advanced obfuscators will add garbage code |
| 16:51.03 | Agouti | or nest functions |
| 16:51.17 | burne- | I had one amazing video to show you today |
| 16:51.22 | burne- | but I forgot what it was |
| 16:51.23 | HP-X|Arthas | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/10270-sc2bank-limitations/ |
| 16:51.29 | HP-X|Arthas | are these limitation still accurate? |
| 16:51.42 | HP-X|Arthas | ie, a total of 8 kb can be loaded |
| 16:51.45 | HP-X|Arthas | split over players |
| 16:51.54 | burne- | I dont have anything better to offer so watch this |
| 16:51.55 | burne- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87GsHvjes6E |
| 16:52.01 | Agouti | LSKDFJSLKDFJSDLKFJ |
| 16:52.03 | Agouti | So |
| 16:52.09 | Agouti | you can use the attachment method |
| 16:52.15 | Agouti | and it has 2 check boxes |
| 16:52.17 | Agouti | Hold Position |
| 16:52.19 | Agouti | which works |
| 16:52.23 | Agouti | and Hold Rotation |
| 16:52.25 | Agouti | which does not |
| 16:52.27 | Agouti | SUMMBITCH\ |
| 16:52.54 | HP-X|Arthas | burne-: :| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJFJ_q7J8gs |
| 16:52.56 | HP-X|Arthas | counter attack |
| 16:53.46 | burne- | i dont know how to play this but another counter attack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D8IRIYBSnk |
| 16:53.46 | burne- | :D |
| 16:54.00 | HP-X|Arthas | well played |
| 16:54.01 | HP-X|Arthas | lol |
| 16:54.04 | HP-X|Arthas | THE HAIR |
| 16:54.31 | burne- | I actually like the beat on your loop video |
| 16:55.15 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZEZy-EaHvA |
| 16:55.19 | HP-X|Arthas | How about that one? |
| 16:55.23 | HP-X|Arthas | not a loop though |
| 16:55.30 | HP-X|Arthas | I do still miss that tune in sc2 :< |
| 16:55.40 | burne- | almost made me puke |
| 16:55.48 | burne- | I dont like sc2 music or was that sc1 |
| 16:55.53 | HP-X|Arthas | thats sc1 |
| 16:55.57 | HP-X|Arthas | terran2 |
| 16:55.58 | HP-X|Arthas | i think |
| 16:56.14 | burne- | i listened 1 second cause i was afraid its sc2 music :( |
| 16:56.25 | burne- | the bnet music is fucking horrible too |
| 16:56.29 | HP-X|Arthas | ^^ |
| 16:56.37 | HP-X|Arthas | Cant wait to see how d3 music turns out |
| 16:56.43 | HP-X|Arthas | now that matt is gone |
| 16:57.21 | burne- | hmm |
| 16:57.28 | burne- | should i find another video |
| 16:57.36 | burne- | you want sick/cool or funny stuff :D |
| 16:57.42 | HP-X|Arthas | sure |
| 16:58.16 | Agouti | I don't |
| 16:58.22 | Agouti | fucking understand this stupid thing |
| 16:58.43 | Agouti | so site operations |
| 16:58.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dresnia (~Miranda@94-225-205-79.access.telenet.be) |
| 16:58.52 | Agouti | check neither hold position nor rotation |
| 16:58.55 | Agouti | actor never shows up |
| 16:58.56 | burne- | hmm |
| 16:58.57 | Agouti | check both |
| 16:58.59 | Dresnia | DO NOT |
| 16:59.02 | Agouti | it sits on the ground and does nothing |
| 16:59.17 | Agouti | check just 1, and it follows the unit as per normal |
| 16:59.18 | Agouti | WTF |
| 17:00.04 | burne- | I cant think of anyuthing new |
| 17:00.09 | burne- | so ill post my video soon |
| 17:00.11 | burne- | :( |
| 17:00.22 | Dresnia | seriously |
| 17:00.27 | burne- | I know |
| 17:00.29 | Dresnia | 3 days for a retarted goku video |
| 17:00.32 | Dresnia | you fucking suck man |
| 17:00.32 | burne- | :D |
| 17:00.33 | Dresnia | go die |
| 17:00.49 | burne- | I umm |
| 17:00.50 | Dresnia | so I got in yet another fight today on the road |
| 17:00.58 | burne- | rendered it to wmv this time |
| 17:01.00 | Dresnia | hoeray for me and this aggresive belgium |
| 17:01.00 | HP-X|Arthas | did you win? |
| 17:01.09 | Vailreth | yeah this is a pain Agouti |
| 17:01.13 | Dresnia | he didn't dare too step out once I did |
| 17:01.16 | Dresnia | so he spinned off |
| 17:01.20 | HP-X|Arthas | gz |
| 17:01.21 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 17:01.21 | Dresnia | crying too his mommy now I bet |
| 17:01.43 | mapman_ | how do you load an array from a bank? |
| 17:01.44 | mapman_ | ï¼â¯Â°â¡Â°ï¼â¯ï¸µ â»ââ»ï»¿ |
| 17:01.59 | Agouti | wait wait wait |
| 17:02.03 | burne- | if you havent seen this |
| 17:02.04 | burne- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jluv2HxFEqs |
| 17:02.04 | Dresnia | I only load money from my bank |
| 17:02.06 | Agouti | squibs |
| 17:02.08 | burne- | its awesome |
| 17:02.10 | Agouti | sorry |
| 17:02.12 | Agouti | splats |
| 17:02.17 | Agouti | don't rotate with their host |
| 17:02.19 | Agouti | f.e. |
| 17:02.24 | Agouti | zerg burrowed splats |
| 17:03.01 | Dresnia | I'm watching my daily http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tjb14VoWjg |
| 17:03.19 | burne- | you are gayyy |
| 17:03.26 | Dresnia | nah you only wish so |
| 17:03.42 | Vailreth | Agout i have a solution |
| 17:03.48 | Agouti | oh? |
| 17:03.54 | Agouti | do I need to assume the position? |
| 17:04.22 | Agouti | also, yay ponies |
| 17:04.23 | Vailreth | you just need a second site op actor like 2d roation and set it to diable rotation |
| 17:04.51 | Agouti | hmm |
| 17:04.57 | Agouti | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tjb14VoWjg&feature=player_detailpage#t=720s |
| 17:05.05 | Agouti | You may have lost me |
| 17:05.26 | Agouti | go via a custom site op? |
| 17:05.32 | Agouti | duplicate attach center f.e. |
| 17:06.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dynast (~Dynast@adsl-074-171-206-222.sip.owb.bellsouth.net) |
| 17:08.44 | mapman_ | agouti |
| 17:09.01 | Agouti | I'm not sure how to use the 2d rotation siteop, Vailreth |
| 17:09.06 | Agouti | yes mapman_ ? |
| 17:09.08 | mapman_ | you know if theres a function to find highest integer from an array |
| 17:09.14 | mapman_ | ? |
| 17:09.19 | Agouti | I know how to easily make one |
| 17:10.05 | Agouti | in 3 or 4 lines |
| 17:10.11 | mapman_ | o rly |
| 17:10.23 | Agouti | as do you |
| 17:10.28 | Agouti | if you thought about it for a second |
| 17:10.42 | Agouti | if you had a book |
| 17:10.43 | mapman_ | yea |
| 17:10.50 | mapman_ | yea know how |
| 17:10.51 | Agouti | figure it out? |
| 17:10.53 | Agouti | k |
| 17:10.54 | mapman_ | so theres no function |
| 17:10.55 | mapman_ | for it |
| 17:10.58 | mapman_ | you have |
| 17:10.59 | mapman_ | to make it |
| 17:11.01 | mapman_ | ï¼â¯Â°â¡Â°ï¼â¯ï¸µ â»ââ»ï»¿ |
| 17:11.03 | Agouti | you can use Max to make it a little simpler |
| 17:11.05 | burne- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BFiQVr40Ks I uploaded it, but I might nee to reupload iwith better quality :( |
| 17:11.10 | Agouti | it will be 3 lines |
| 17:11.14 | mapman_ | oh |
| 17:11.37 | Agouti | Max(A,B) retruns the highest integer out of A & B |
| 17:11.50 | mapman_ | o i see |
| 17:11.52 | Agouti | equiv of If(A>B) Return A; Else return B; |
| 17:12.01 | Agouti | basically |
| 17:12.08 | Agouti | pick each integer in array |
| 17:12.19 | Agouti | tempvar = max(tempvar, picked integer) |
| 17:12.24 | Agouti | return tempvar |
| 17:12.25 | Agouti | that is it |
| 17:12.28 | mapman_ | yea |
| 17:12.31 | mapman_ | i see |
| 17:12.32 | mapman_ | tks |
| 17:12.33 | Xan | thats some terible music |
| 17:12.41 | Agouti | Vailreth, haaaalp |
| 17:12.47 | Vailreth | ok |
| 17:12.55 | HP-X|Arthas | quicksort eh? |
| 17:13.02 | Vailreth | sorry i was watching that video |
| 17:13.08 | Agouti | anthology? |
| 17:13.14 | Dresnia | lol burne |
| 17:13.16 | Dresnia | goky says '...' |
| 17:13.18 | Agouti | if so, you are forgiven |
| 17:13.21 | Dresnia | clearly your video |
| 17:13.40 | Vailreth | yes |
| 17:13.41 | burne- | :D |
| 17:13.51 | Agouti | did you watch it from the start? |
| 17:13.54 | Vailreth | yes |
| 17:13.58 | Agouti | yaay |
| 17:14.04 | Agouti | anywhizzy |
| 17:14.05 | Agouti | so |
| 17:14.16 | Agouti | I've created a 2D siteop |
| 17:14.25 | Agouti | do I just add it to the list of attachments? |
| 17:14.27 | Agouti | Like |
| 17:14.28 | Vailreth | and set it to hold rotation |
| 17:14.38 | Agouti | sOpAttachCenter, Attach2D |
| 17:14.55 | Agouti | where |
| 17:14.58 | Agouti | on the siteop |
| 17:15.01 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 17:15.02 | Agouti | or on the attachment |
| 17:15.06 | Agouti | k |
| 17:15.06 | Vailreth | the site op |
| 17:15.29 | Vailreth | and then for host site operations operations you add the site op there |
| 17:16.34 | Agouti | didn't work :( |
| 17:16.59 | Agouti | let me have a fiddle |
| 17:17.05 | Vailreth | whats it doing? |
| 17:17.10 | Vailreth | it works for mine |
| 17:17.23 | Agouti | it's obeying the attach center siteop |
| 17:17.23 | Agouti | or do I not use that |
| 17:17.51 | Dresnia | burne- : some asweom moves on the roach boss :o |
| 17:18.05 | Dresnia | awesome even :/ |
| 17:18.18 | Agouti | wait, made a booboo |
| 17:18.33 | burne- | I designed it to be as playable charecter |
| 17:18.40 | burne- | just scale down attacks and its done |
| 17:18.48 | burne- | it also has one move that didnt fit in the video |
| 17:18.58 | Dresnia | :) |
| 17:19.03 | Agouti | has anybody used fatty yet? |
| 17:19.37 | Dresnia | yeah I've used my wife |
| 17:19.40 | Dresnia | why do you need her |
| 17:19.43 | Agouti | Vailreth, it works |
| 17:19.50 | Agouti | thankyou very much |
| 17:20.01 | Agouti | still rather confused by how siteops fit together |
| 17:20.09 | Agouti | seems rather... awkward |
| 17:20.17 | Agouti | also |
| 17:20.18 | Agouti | oooosnap |
| 17:23.38 | mapman_ | if you have a pick each integer inside a pick each integer and you set a variable to picked integer, will it return the picked integer from the first or second pick each |
| 17:23.48 | mapman_ | Imma ask phylosoraptor |
| 17:24.05 | Vailreth | im using the fatty model |
| 17:24.24 | HP-X|Arthas | fatty? |
| 17:24.44 | Xan | you made a model of arthas? |
| 17:25.07 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.sodahead.com/living/fat-stigma-is-discrimination-against-the-obese-on-the-rise/question-1632561/?page=2&link=ibaf&imgurl=http://kccollegegameday.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/ugly_fat_man_big_tummy_funny_pictur.jpg&q=fat |
| 17:25.26 | HP-X|Arthas | abominations got nothing on me! |
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| 17:31.33 | ducky_ | Heeeeeeeeeyyyy!!1 |
| 17:31.45 | Agouti | 1? |
| 17:31.54 | ducky_ | can anyone on EU give me a hand in testing map;/ |
| 17:34.49 | Vailreth | Agouti what about the fatty model? |
| 17:37.53 | burne- | I hate youtube, it spoils the best part of my cinematic |
| 17:37.53 | Ashamed | fatty! |
| 17:38.04 | burne- | I guess I should put some random picture to cover it |
| 17:38.05 | Ashamed | yeah your vid frozed |
| 17:38.05 | Ashamed | on me |
| 17:38.08 | Ashamed | right at the boss |
| 17:38.16 | burne- | its just uploaded so it might happen |
| 17:39.18 | HP-X|Arthas | burne-: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjMd2Vabcv8 |
| 17:39.23 | HP-X|Arthas | old video is old! :D |
| 17:40.30 | burne- | -_-¨¨ |
| 17:40.40 | Ashamed | BUM BUM BUM |
| 17:40.42 | Ashamed | gotta fight the zealot |
| 17:40.53 | burne- | have to rush in shop |
| 17:40.56 | burne- | before its too late |
| 17:41.02 | burne- | brb |
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| 18:00.31 | burne- | back |
| 18:00.51 | burne- | I will probly have to do CH6 too since I still have many ideas |
| 18:00.59 | burne- | it will be probly a bit different though |
| 18:01.17 | burne- | CH6 will probly show my comedic skills if I have any |
| 18:05.32 | Vailreth | i would love to see an zerg infested refrigerator |
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| 18:13.18 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dToRs1Jmg08&feature=player_embedded |
| 18:13.26 | HP-X|Arthas | almost tempted at getting cod4 :p |
| 18:13.31 | HP-X|Arthas | just because of that |
| 18:14.30 | XorioZ | ... |
| 18:14.39 | Vailreth | hey Xor |
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| 18:15.20 | HP-X|Arthas | so many dots |
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| 18:16.15 | burne- | that does looks nice |
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| 18:16.25 | HP-X|Arthas | yup |
| 18:16.27 | burne- | even though I want my lightsaber |
| 18:16.36 | Bibendus | hu |
| 18:16.40 | HP-X|Arthas | I miss jedi knight academy |
| 18:16.41 | Bibendus | star wars map? |
| 18:16.43 | HP-X|Arthas | with the movies addon |
| 18:16.51 | HP-X|Arthas | Bibendus: they say a tc |
| 18:16.53 | HP-X|Arthas | so not just a map |
| 18:16.55 | Bibendus | or just kotr |
| 18:16.55 | HP-X|Arthas | i guess |
| 18:16.58 | burne- | i MISS IT TOO |
| 18:16.59 | HP-X|Arthas | thats cod4 |
| 18:17.05 | Bibendus | cod with lightsabers? |
| 18:17.09 | HP-X|Arthas | burne-: you know the mod im speaking of? |
| 18:17.21 | XorioZ | yo vail yo Xan. how goes the work |
| 18:17.25 | burne- | hmm what |
| 18:17.25 | HP-X|Arthas | Bibendus: from trailer it seems like its troopers and rebels only |
| 18:17.31 | burne- | it was a game wasnt it |
| 18:17.36 | HP-X|Arthas | yeah |
| 18:17.39 | Bibendus | kotr? |
| 18:17.40 | HP-X|Arthas | but there was an awesome addon too :D |
| 18:17.43 | HP-X|Arthas | jka |
| 18:17.43 | Vailreth | slow at the moment got up far too ealry |
| 18:17.43 | burne- | so what mod? |
| 18:17.50 | HP-X|Arthas | searching |
| 18:17.55 | Vailreth | went to sleep far too late |
| 18:17.55 | burne- | i probly dont know that |
| 18:17.56 | XorioZ | i'm gonna go grsab that mod for my cod right now. |
| 18:17.59 | Bibendus | sounds like alliance vs horde |
| 18:18.00 | Bibendus | :p |
| 18:18.13 | XorioZ | k |
| 18:18.26 | XorioZ | i had myself a mid day nap today. |
| 18:18.32 | XorioZ | just felt like it |
| 18:18.32 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.moviebattles.com/ |
| 18:18.33 | HP-X|Arthas | that! |
| 18:18.38 | Vailreth | nice |
| 18:19.03 | HP-X|Arthas | Movie Battles is a class-based and team-orientated Multiplayer Total Conversion - previously for Raven Software's game Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast and now for Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy - completely altering the multiplayer experience in order to deliver those famous battle and duel scenes seen in the movies. |
| 18:20.11 | burne- | i want a video |
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| 18:20.22 | burne- | the videos on their site not working |
| 18:20.22 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm2hCQ4Qrgo |
| 18:20.34 | HP-X|Arthas | trying to find gameplay though |
| 18:20.35 | HP-X|Arthas | :| |
| 18:21.04 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpz7FbobeQw&feature=related |
| 18:21.05 | HP-X|Arthas | there |
| 18:21.11 | HP-X|Arthas | THE LAG |
| 18:22.05 | Ashamed | Arthas i will kill you |
| 18:22.25 | HP-X|Arthas | whyyyyy |
| 18:22.26 | burne- | I loved multiplayer duels in jedi knig |
| 18:22.31 | HP-X|Arthas | burne-: word |
| 18:22.38 | HP-X|Arthas | we actually used to lan in that game |
| 18:23.22 | Ashamed | dont lan in starwars |
| 18:23.39 | HP-X|Arthas | you ever played jka Ashamed ? =p |
| 18:23.48 | HP-X|Arthas | burne-: I even have the game installed :d |
| 18:23.59 | Ashamed | no |
| 18:24.11 | HP-X|Arthas | but they removed the kicker in jka if my mind aint failing me |
| 18:24.14 | HP-X|Arthas | ie double jump |
| 18:24.14 | burne- | those guns seem pointles to me, I only want my lightsaber! |
| 18:24.22 | HP-X|Arthas | and had kick only on the staff saber |
| 18:24.47 | HP-X|Arthas | and the places you could reach w force jump 3 :D |
| 18:24.55 | HP-X|Arthas | looking down at the ants, charging the sniper |
| 18:25.23 | HP-X|Arthas | then cursing at the laser absorbing sabers :\ |
| 18:25.39 | burne- | I played force unleashed on wii |
| 18:25.42 | burne- | WHAT BULLSHIT |
| 18:25.49 | burne- | I cannot understand how you can fuck up games so badly |
| 18:25.51 | HP-X|Arthas | haha |
| 18:26.01 | burne- | Like cinematic endings when killing a minor boss |
| 18:26.03 | burne- | wtf... |
| 18:26.05 | HP-X|Arthas | i was looking forward to kotr |
| 18:26.06 | burne- | so anoying |
| 18:26.08 | HP-X|Arthas | until their last trailer |
| 18:26.21 | HP-X|Arthas | who the hell puts phantom menace last battle music in a star wars trailer :( |
| 18:26.36 | burne- | hah |
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| 18:30.07 | XorioZ | hmm... how to make a timer in a dialog using a normal timer? |
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| 18:34.42 | Mexa|Zug | hmm |
| 18:35.27 | HP-X|Arthas | burne-: http://www.invision-games.com/ |
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| 18:49.47 | Dresnia | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1309978091347.gif |
| 18:49.49 | Dresnia | what the fuck lol |
| 18:50.03 | Mexa|Zug | Describe it to me. |
| 18:50.11 | Dresnia | nigger kicks a kittun |
| 18:50.11 | HP-X|Arthas | black guy petting cat |
| 18:50.14 | Dresnia | and laughs out loud |
| 18:50.25 | HP-X|Arthas | other evil black guy kicks it into the conrete wall (or brick wall) |
| 18:50.28 | HP-X|Arthas | black guys laugh |
| 18:50.32 | HP-X|Arthas | then it loops |
| 18:50.43 | Mexa|Zug | k |
| 18:52.28 | Agouti | what is amazing |
| 18:52.41 | Agouti | is the cat actually lands the wall |
| 18:52.47 | Agouti | with paws |
| 18:53.10 | HP-X|Arthas | busy looking at laughing ppl |
| 18:53.11 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 18:53.51 | Agouti | bad bad peoples |
| 18:53.55 | Agouti | o well |
| 18:53.57 | Agouti | nn all |
| 18:54.00 | HP-X|Arthas | nn |
| 18:55.39 | mapman_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.46 | mapman_ | agouti |
| 18:55.58 | mapman_ | you know how to set dialog render priority? |
| 18:56.18 | mapman_ | like if two dialog windows are on top of another |
| 18:56.24 | mapman_ | to set which will show on top |
| 18:56.49 | Mexa|Zug | You create the one who should be on top last. |
| 18:57.00 | mapman_ | mm i see.. |
| 18:57.04 | mapman_ | no way to set it? |
| 18:57.25 | mapman_ | there must be a way |
| 18:57.36 | Mexa|Zug | I've been looking at the channel property, but it is apparantly used in combination with offscreen mode. |
| 18:57.38 | Mexa|Zug | So Idk. |
| 18:57.46 | mapman_ | :/ |
| 18:57.47 | mapman_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:59.35 | mapman_ | I never used RTT |
| 18:59.39 | mapman_ | i dont even know what it is |
| 19:04.01 | Mexa|Zug | likesaid, |
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| 19:22.01 | Ashamed | erg |
| 19:22.07 | Ashamed | 4 hours left of hell |
| 19:22.49 | Dresnia | lol |
| 19:25.32 | Vailreth | this is soo embarasing |
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| 19:27.56 | Vailreth | well later folks |
| 19:29.01 | Ashamed | erg |
| 19:31.50 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 19:32.00 | Ashamed | hey bounty |
| 19:32.03 | Ashamed | hows the map going? |
| 19:32.20 | Bounty | good, adding a fix to make it alot easier to tell who your team mates are |
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| 19:37.58 | Ashamed | good |
| 19:38.08 | Ashamed | -.- bounty and his 3rd persons |
| 19:38.25 | Ashamed | add jump too |
| 19:41.24 | Bounty | Jump is pointless with no 3D shooting |
| 19:42.15 | mapman_ | "nested iteration detected" |
| 19:42.16 | mapman_ | WTF |
| 19:42.18 | mapman_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.43 | mapman_ | wtf is a nested iteration |
| 19:42.45 | mapman_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:42.56 | Mexa|Zug | meh, emoticon spam |
| 19:43.11 | Mexa|Zug | probably means you are looping within a loop. |
| 19:43.18 | mapman_ | I am |
| 19:43.22 | mapman_ | and whats the probnlem with that |
| 19:43.25 | mapman_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.36 | Mephs | you have to go deeper |
| 19:44.54 | Ashamed | bounty what do you mean no 3d shooting |
| 19:45.00 | Bounty | So Ashamed, Battfield Egypt II... Page 1 or Page 2 |
| 19:45.00 | Ashamed | you can omly shoot in one directon |
| 19:45.04 | Bounty | like |
| 19:45.06 | Bounty | up down |
| 19:45.16 | Bounty | its 2D shooting |
| 19:45.20 | Bounty | which means flat |
| 19:45.23 | Bounty | left right forward |
| 19:45.25 | Bounty | no up or down |
| 19:45.58 | Ashamed | bounty i bet it wont get on either page >< |
| 19:46.14 | mapman_ | I think his map has potential |
| 19:46.50 | Bounty | People liked the first so |
| 19:46.59 | Bounty | This one is 1000x better |
| 19:47.15 | Bounty | If it doesnt even get played then im done mapping lol |
| 19:47.23 | Bounty | As long as people atleast try it once, thats fine |
| 19:49.01 | Dresnia | anyone knows if there's any setting |
| 19:49.04 | Dresnia | in skype of windows |
| 19:49.11 | Dresnia | too reduce noise from background |
| 19:49.17 | Dresnia | from ur headset that is |
| 19:50.03 | mapman_ | I like looping within a loop, why is blizzard hating on me |
| 19:50.08 | mapman_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.28 | Bounty | Ashamed, do you want to join in on testing today when we get some games going? |
| 19:51.48 | Ashamed | i am at work |
| 19:51.56 | Ashamed | bounty and i already tested it >< i dont think you should make it |
| 19:52.07 | Mexa|Zug | Dresnia, there should be one in your sound settings in your control panel |
| 19:52.25 | Ashamed | you are trying to release a concept that has been proven not to work :( |
| 19:52.45 | Ashamed | and yeah you have gotten it close.. and it does not look too bad |
| 19:53.01 | Ashamed | but on internet games you can't have it almost work :( |
| 19:53.27 | Mexa|Zug | As with all popularity systems.. It will not get popular instantly |
| 19:53.52 | Ashamed | it wont get popular at all i do not think |
| 19:54.13 | Ashamed | but bounty your system is close i think you can make a kick ass game... but you just need to not make it so PVP |
| 19:54.17 | Ashamed | and more PVE |
| 19:54.32 | Ashamed | like some kind of RPG |
| 19:56.24 | Mexa|Zug | Dresnia,http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2757798/mic_properties.jpg |
| 19:56.53 | Mexa|Zug | That's how I got mine |
| 19:57.12 | Mexa|Zug | I could imagine it is sound card specific tho |
| 19:57.30 | Mexa|Zug | As all those enhancements are provided by Realtek from my part |
| 19:57.47 | Mexa|Zug | ... so you could try update your sound drives |
| 19:57.51 | Mexa|Zug | *drivers |
| 19:59.14 | Mexa|Zug | Goodnight |
| 19:59.17 | Ashamed | i am getting a new headset |
| 19:59.19 | Ashamed | on monday |
| 19:59.21 | Ashamed | :) |
| 19:59.24 | Ashamed | mexa dont go to bed |
| 19:59.27 | Ashamed | what tim eis it? |
| 19:59.32 | Mexa_ | 10pm |
| 19:59.43 | Ashamed | pusssssay |
| 19:59.50 | Mexa_ | No, I am going to watch star wars |
| 20:00.04 | Ashamed | which one? |
| 20:00.07 | Mexa_ | 4th |
| 20:00.21 | Ashamed | oh shiz |
| 20:00.25 | Ashamed | starten with the oldest one |
| 20:00.41 | Mexa_ | Actually we've run though the other first three already |
| 20:00.54 | Mexa_ | (I know, ep4 is oldest, but that's what my friend wanted so) |
| 20:00.56 | Ashamed | you and your dorm room mate? |
| 20:01.08 | Mexa_ | yes, my old acquaintance |
| 20:01.15 | Bounty | lol just got like 8 PM's |
| 20:01.18 | Bounty | of ppl who want in on the beta test =P |
| 20:01.20 | Bounty | bwahahaha |
| 20:01.39 | Mexa_ | Anyways |
| 20:01.41 | Mexa_ | Bye |
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| 20:24.16 | Mephs | who remembers gauntlet |
| 20:24.28 | Ashamed | who doesnt rmber it |
| 20:24.33 | Ashamed | it got worse and worse |
| 20:24.37 | Mephs | lol |
| 20:24.40 | Ashamed | as newer games released |
| 20:24.46 | Mephs | old gauntlet |
| 20:24.52 | Ashamed | yeah it was the best |
| 20:24.56 | Ashamed | like the 64 version |
| 20:24.59 | Ashamed | the nes one sucked |
| 20:24.59 | Mephs | why isn't there a map like that :o |
| 20:25.13 | Ashamed | and then they created one for ps2 |
| 20:25.20 | Ashamed | and it sucked bad |
| 20:25.26 | Ashamed | because wasd does not work |
| 20:25.34 | Ashamed | lol |
| 20:25.41 | Mephs | ok...you know what i mean |
| 20:25.43 | Ashamed | i have a strong feeling in the next year we will see better rpgs |
| 20:25.48 | Mephs | ported to the sc2 environment |
| 20:25.51 | Ashamed | rpgs just take longer to create |
| 20:26.06 | Ashamed | i honestly would put gauntlet in the same cat as diablo |
| 20:26.12 | Mephs | yea sorta |
| 20:26.13 | Ashamed | its that top rts style |
| 20:26.17 | Mephs | i might just do something like that |
| 20:26.22 | Mephs | but with incredibly hard bosses |
| 20:26.32 | Mephs | i really like the idea of a 4 player co-op with fucking hard bosses |
| 20:26.36 | Ashamed | yeah i making my rpg hard |
| 20:26.44 | Mephs | or more or less |
| 20:26.45 | Mephs | just bosses |
| 20:26.47 | Ashamed | i am going to put a party mode in mine |
| 20:26.47 | Mephs | maybe |
| 20:26.55 | Ashamed | where if you are solo then the guys are weaker |
| 20:27.04 | Ashamed | but a full party will always put it on HARDCORE mode or w/e |
| 20:27.07 | Ashamed | where its hard as shit |
| 20:27.12 | Mephs | lol |
| 20:27.20 | Mephs | i was thinking like almost a bullet hell style bosses |
| 20:27.31 | Mephs | at the hardest difficulty |
| 20:28.48 | Ashamed | i am making an rpg |
| 20:28.54 | Mephs | not even really rpg |
| 20:28.59 | Ashamed | i have come to realize that the sc2 engine works best with rpgs |
| 20:29.05 | Mephs | just kind of a dungeon hack n' slash |
| 20:29.08 | Ashamed | they just take lots of patents |
| 20:29.16 | Ashamed | well i still would ocncider that an rpg |
| 20:29.33 | Ashamed | i guess it kinda depends on how you do the skill system |
| 20:29.42 | Mephs | well |
| 20:29.49 | Mephs | hm |
| 20:29.53 | Mephs | i dont know how i want to do it mainly cuz |
| 20:30.04 | Mephs | if you add skills/stats it can diminish the difficulty of the encounters |
| 20:30.13 | Mephs | just through sheer stat whoring |
| 20:30.22 | Mephs | but without skills/stats the replay might be kind of low |
| 20:31.02 | Ashamed | yeah mephs another thing i have realized is the public are zombies |
| 20:31.07 | Ashamed | they want to hack and slash |
| 20:31.13 | Ashamed | but they want something to progress |
| 20:31.24 | Ashamed | some people enjoy just learning game slike your battle game... |
| 20:31.30 | Ashamed | but most people want to be able to save something |
| 20:31.31 | Ashamed | and come back to it |
| 20:31.52 | Mephs | yea |
| 20:31.53 | Mephs | hmm |
| 20:32.24 | Mephs | well i guess you could do levels/stats |
| 20:32.40 | Mephs | with a simple item system and badges for beating certain encounters on higher difficulties |
| 20:32.53 | Mephs | thats all it would really be though |
| 20:32.57 | Mephs | a hub and tons of boss encounters |
| 20:33.04 | Mephs | oooooor what if |
| 20:33.17 | Mephs | you beat a boss and you can steal their ability :O |
| 20:33.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster tordy (ad44a44a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.68.164.74) |
| 20:33.43 | tordy | hello |
| 20:35.06 | Mephs | kinda like in megaman |
| 20:35.08 | Mephs | lol |
| 20:35.37 | Ashamed | mephs |
| 20:35.40 | Ashamed | omg |
| 20:35.42 | Ashamed | no you know what you are thinking of |
| 20:35.46 | Ashamed | which would wokr FUCKING great in the sc2 engine |
| 20:35.54 | Ashamed | do that monster hunter game |
| 20:35.59 | Ashamed | that they made for WII |
| 20:36.09 | Ashamed | japanese liked it better |
| 20:36.13 | Ashamed | so it didnt get much air here |
| 20:36.18 | Ashamed | but you know what i am talking about |
| 20:36.25 | tordy | what are you talkin about |
| 20:36.28 | tordy | explain to me!! |
| 20:36.28 | Mephs | monster hunter? |
| 20:36.32 | Ashamed | i think it was called monster hunter |
| 20:36.47 | Mephs | i was thinking more along the lines of impossible bosses |
| 20:36.49 | Ashamed | it was a game where you just killed big bosses |
| 20:36.52 | Mephs | or something like that |
| 20:36.54 | Ashamed | and they got bigger and better |
| 20:36.58 | Ashamed | thats what that game is |
| 20:37.01 | Mephs | yea |
| 20:37.11 | Ashamed | and the bosses were the ones who dropped the gear |
| 20:37.15 | Ashamed | but they were rare drops |
| 20:37.22 | Ashamed | so sometimes you would have to kill the same boss a million times |
| 20:37.24 | Ashamed | to get his set |
| 20:37.52 | Ashamed | and the bosses just keep getting bigger and better |
| 20:37.58 | Ashamed | it was a pretty cool game i enjoyed it |
| 20:38.57 | Mephs | hm |
| 20:38.59 | Mephs | yeah |
| 20:39.02 | Mephs | make items |
| 20:39.03 | Mephs | no stats |
| 20:39.07 | Mephs | but like...levellable skills |
| 20:39.09 | tordy | mephs do you like karasawa |
| 20:39.22 | Mephs | then ppl have to do the bosses multiple times to get their items |
| 20:39.26 | Mephs | who's that |
| 20:39.31 | tordy | iunno some guy |
| 20:40.27 | tordy | it's too easy to troll in mineralz |
| 20:40.52 | tordy | get to wave 5 and break a side wall to creeps and instantly lose |
| 20:41.28 | tordy | anyway |
| 20:41.36 | tordy | do y'all agree with a kick vote function? |
| 20:41.48 | tordy | for 8+ player maps of course |
| 20:42.02 | tordy | and the map relies on teamwork |
| 20:42.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster CryptRat (440a8b94@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.10.139.148) |
| 20:42.28 | CryptRat | To add music to your custom map, it has to be in the public domain, correct? |
| 20:42.49 | mapman_ | agouti |
| 20:43.02 | mapman_ | tempvar = max(tempvar, picked integer) |
| 20:43.05 | mapman_ | what did you mean by this |
| 20:43.14 | CryptRat | because I really want my map to have a bunch of upbeat accordion waltzes. |
| 20:43.15 | mapman_ | o i think hes gone |
| 20:43.31 | tordy | CryptRat, not so sure |
| 20:43.39 | tordy | runling run has a lot of copyrighted music in there |
| 20:43.43 | tordy | and it stayed for a while |
| 20:44.03 | CryptRat | So then, what? I can grab whatever I want from the internet? |
| 20:44.16 | tordy | modify them a bit just in case |
| 20:44.25 | CryptRat | ? |
| 20:44.35 | tordy | most important thing is to reduce their file size |
| 20:44.41 | tordy | to like ~64kbps ogg |
| 20:44.45 | tordy | tops |
| 20:45.16 | CryptRat | ogg being the file type? |
| 20:45.23 | tordy | yea |
| 20:45.32 | tordy | it's the best compression for sc2 |
| 20:45.50 | CryptRat | This is getting a bit complicated. o.o |
| 20:45.56 | CryptRat | Maybe I'll come back to it later. |
| 20:45.59 | tordy | dont worry about it, it's gonna be a breeze |
| 20:46.15 | CryptRat | I still haven't found a group of stuff I'd want to use. |
| 20:46.18 | CryptRat | Maybe one |
| 20:46.28 | CryptRat | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDLgNmvuW1c |
| 20:46.32 | CryptRat | This feels about right for the map. |
| 20:46.40 | CryptRat | Speed and the mood it sets. |
| 20:47.31 | tordy | i dont know what map you're making so iunno |
| 20:47.34 | tordy | pick whatever you want |
| 20:47.41 | tordy | just dont make it obnoxiously loud |
| 20:47.43 | tordy | like runling run does it |
| 20:48.26 | tordy | is cortex roleplay still easy to troll in? |
| 20:49.44 | tordy | who wants to help me make an ambitious map? |
| 20:49.52 | tordy | do the notd guys come here? |
| 20:53.33 | CryptRat | I started many ambitions maps only to later abandon them. |
| 20:53.44 | tordy | me too |
| 20:53.48 | tordy | but this i feel will be different |
| 20:53.51 | CryptRat | I'm making a more conservative one now that I expect to actually be able to complete. |
| 20:53.53 | tordy | i could taste it |
| 20:54.14 | CryptRat | The only awkward thing is that I'm not actually sure how I'm going to design it. |
| 20:55.07 | mapman_ | (ãಠçಠ)ã彡â»ââ» |
| 20:56.13 | CryptRat | Y U NO speake inglish? |
| 20:56.26 | SoulTaker916_ | he does |
| 20:57.19 | tordy | (ãಠçಠ)ã彡â»ââ»(ãಠçಠ)ã彡â»ââ»(ãಠçಠ)ã彡â»ââ»(ãಠçಠ)ã彡â»ââ»(ãಠçಠ)ã彡â»ââ»(ãಠçಠ)ã彡â»ââ» |
| 21:09.09 | currydevil | looks like faces |
| 21:10.33 | currydevil | question if any can answer. i've played with knockback effects a little and watched a tutorial, is it possible to make the affected unit stay at the distance it was knocked back to? |
| 21:18.34 | XorioZ | currydevil it is |
| 21:19.15 | currydevil | cool. i just need to play with it later then and figure it out eh |
| 21:19.31 | XorioZ | right after the knockback effect has occurred you need to apply a stun like effect. |
| 21:19.55 | XorioZ | i discovered this by accident while making a stun grenade that throws back units and then stuns them |
| 21:20.11 | currydevil | can I remove the stun immediately? |
| 21:20.19 | XorioZ | i dont se why not |
| 21:20.28 | XorioZ | set it to a duration of 0.1 |
| 21:20.33 | currydevil | I just don't want the unit to scurry back to it's previous position and dodge anything else i use on it |
| 21:20.55 | currydevil | my idea is to have a unit with a knockback attack |
| 21:20.55 | Ashamed | LOL |
| 21:21.00 | XorioZ | ill go have a look at my ability to see how my stun works |
| 21:21.01 | Ashamed | read this paragraph i just read |
| 21:21.02 | Ashamed | Letâs face it, geeks arenât known for gettin some on Saturday night, however, they are known for watching Internet p0rn. There is a very good chance that your seemingly innocent geek guy has seen it all⦠online. As a result, heâs not going to think itâs strange when you want to bust out with some fun toys, some kinky movies, or even a playful friend. If heâs a gamer geek, he may even be used to role-playing, and he wil |
| 21:21.15 | currydevil | then, he also has an attack that places amovement slowing effect in an area |
| 21:22.00 | currydevil | would like for the affected unit to have to then walk back through that area if he wants to attack me |
| 21:22.23 | currydevil | nice. |
| 21:25.42 | XorioZ | currydevil my stun is a behavior with the suppress movement and suppress turning enabled. |
| 21:25.50 | currydevil | ok |
| 21:26.00 | currydevil | i'll load up the editor in a little bit and check it out |
| 21:26.21 | XorioZ | you will find them in modifications under the behavior tab |
| 21:26.51 | XorioZ | in the modify flags list |
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| 21:33.12 | Nash|327 | haha fuck you Wednesday |
| 21:34.42 | Ashamed | fuck you hardcore wednesday |
| 21:34.47 | Ashamed | but only 2 hours left |
| 21:34.57 | Ashamed | and then hump day is over |
| 21:37.14 | Nash|327 | I slept 20/24 hours of this Wednesday |
| 21:37.41 | Nash|327 | So fuck you, Wednesday! |
| 21:37.56 | Nash|327 | slaps HP-X|Arthas around a bit with a large trout |
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| 21:44.51 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
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| 21:49.08 | RndmObjcts | anyone there? |
| 21:50.27 | Nash|327 | guh |
| 21:50.28 | RndmObjcts | well if anyones there that can help ive set an abilitys max count to 20 but it doesnt count down, its at 20 you use it and its still at 20... how do i fix this? xD lol |
| 21:51.01 | Nash|327 | no clue what you are saying |
| 21:51.36 | RndmObjcts | im trying to make an ability only useable 20 times |
| 21:51.45 | RndmObjcts | but when you use it, its still at 20 instead of 19 |
| 21:51.59 | Nash|327 | charges? |
| 21:52.07 | RndmObjcts | yea |
| 21:52.19 | Nash|327 | Did you set count per use? |
| 21:52.37 | RndmObjcts | yea i set it to one and it made it like.. un usable |
| 21:52.53 | SoulTaker916_ | i want to make pregnate D |
| 21:52.54 | SoulTaker916_ | from sc1 |
| 21:52.59 | SoulTaker916_ | but blizzard would ban me |
| 21:53.01 | tordy | we think the box does matter |
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| 21:53.35 | CryptRat | Wow. Finding the music I'm looking for is hard. :/ |
| 21:55.09 | CryptRat | Anyone know any quirky polka / waltz music? |
| 21:56.17 | Nash|327 | Weird Al? |
| 21:56.54 | CryptRat | ew |
| 21:58.32 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ygdAiDxKfI |
| 21:58.33 | HP-X|Arthas | ? |
| 21:58.40 | HP-X|Arthas | perfect trailer music |
| 21:58.50 | CryptRat | I passed that a while ago. |
| 21:58.55 | HP-X|Arthas | booooo |
| 21:58.56 | CryptRat | I don't want voices. |
| 21:59.05 | CryptRat | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDLgNmvuW1c |
| 21:59.15 | CryptRat | That's the only thing I can find that's close to appropriate. |
| 22:00.24 | CryptRat | But I want like a good half dozen so that stuff can be cycled through. |
| 22:00.52 | tordy | sleight of hand |
| 22:01.35 | CryptRat | ? |
| 22:02.27 | CryptRat | You mean this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NmkyJrVu6M |
| 22:02.31 | CryptRat | ? |
| 22:02.32 | Nash|327 | D: |
| 22:02.46 | Nash|327 | fuckin music |
| 22:02.52 | tordy | what |
| 22:02.58 | tordy | Nash yo WASSUP HOMIE |
| 22:03.10 | Nash|327 | you wigger tordy |
| 22:03.20 | tordy | that's absurd! |
| 22:04.02 | Nash|327 | you smell |
| 22:04.41 | Nash|327 | BAG ME A KITTUN |
| 22:05.01 | SoulTaker916_ | throws a bag full of kittens into the river |
| 22:05.51 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article10889180.ab |
| 22:05.55 | HP-X|Arthas | "Maria Lundbäck säger att rakhyvlarna generellt sett fungerar bättre om man använder rakgel eller raklödder." |
| 22:05.59 | HP-X|Arthas | NO SHIT |
| 22:07.45 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 22:07.51 | Nash|327 | I don't use that shit. |
| 22:08.07 | HP-X|Arthas | you dont shave? |
| 22:08.08 | Nash|327 | They just want to sell you expensive crap. |
| 22:08.15 | Nash|327 | Use soap. |
| 22:08.26 | HP-X|Arthas | yeah that works too |
| 22:08.36 | HP-X|Arthas | water only is so-so |
| 22:08.40 | HP-X|Arthas | dry well |
| 22:08.42 | Nash|327 | I shave maybe twice a month |
| 22:08.42 | HP-X|Arthas | :D |
| 22:09.29 | Nash|327 | low testosterone ftw |
| 22:09.50 | HP-X|Arthas | i just skip shaving unless im going somewhere and look like hell instead :p |
| 22:10.09 | Nash|327 | some people need to shave twice a day if they want to be smooth |
| 22:10.30 | Nash|327 | What a fucking hassle :G |
| 22:10.32 | HP-X|Arthas | yeah, and im not one of them :D |
| 22:12.25 | Nash|327 | stupid testosterone |
| 22:12.42 | mind_spark | anyone know if u can make a learn ability apply an upgrade? without using triggers? |
| 22:13.06 | Nash|327 | passive? |
| 22:13.42 | Nash|327 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8ByyjvDlWw |
| 22:13.46 | mind_spark | k |
| 22:14.31 | mind_spark | yeh, he adds behaviors to units, i need the learn ability to do an upgrade |
| 22:15.52 | mind_spark | i need to upgrade a "pet" the unit can get |
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| 22:27.01 | Ashamed | erg |
| 22:27.03 | Ashamed | 1 mor ehour of hell |
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| 22:34.40 | Ashamed | I got my 3rd fucking interview |
| 22:34.46 | Ashamed | i think i am getting this new job |
| 22:34.56 | HP-X|Arthas | what is the job |
| 22:35.01 | HP-X|Arthas | didnt you just get promoted bwe |
| 22:35.02 | HP-X|Arthas | btw |
| 22:35.05 | Nash|327 | 3 interviews D_D |
| 22:35.19 | Ashamed | yeah but my job sucks arthas |
| 22:35.25 | HP-X|Arthas | whats the new one then? |
| 22:35.38 | HP-X|Arthas | if you get it :p |
| 22:37.22 | Ashamed | its the same shit |
| 22:37.25 | Ashamed | just a better company |
| 22:37.31 | Ashamed | salery based |
| 22:37.36 | HP-X|Arthas | ah |
| 22:37.38 | Ashamed | about double what i am making |
| 22:37.44 | Ashamed | and full paid benifits on top of that |
| 22:37.53 | Ashamed | vacation :) and holiday pay |
| 22:37.55 | HP-X|Arthas | a nice step up |
| 22:38.05 | Ashamed | which i have none of this |
| 22:38.05 | Ashamed | in my current job |
| 22:38.13 | Ashamed | my current job pays me a bit more then minimal wage |
| 22:38.22 | Ashamed | i get paid like 3.50 more then minimal wage |
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| 22:38.40 | HP-X|Arthas | well then |
| 22:38.43 | HP-X|Arthas | i hope ya get it :D |
| 22:38.56 | tordy | remember i beta under the crappy popularity system, glitched maps got even more popular? |
| 22:39.07 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.cio.com.au/article/392397/ |
| 22:39.08 | HP-X|Arthas | lol |
| 22:39.13 | HP-X|Arthas | One can hate powerpoint |
| 22:39.17 | HP-X|Arthas | and one can really HATE it |
| 22:40.40 | CryptRat | Powerpoint is good for making diagrams in |
| 22:40.59 | CryptRat | I used it frequently for that purpose and then just ported them into papers. |
| 22:41.05 | CryptRat | or homework |
| 22:41.24 | HP-X|Arthas | ive used it for presentations |
| 22:41.25 | tordy | what's wrong with powerpoint |
| 22:41.56 | HP-X|Arthas | but then i try to just have keywords on them |
| 22:42.24 | HP-X|Arthas | and create a discussion / share information about them |
| 22:44.36 | Ashamed | man i hope i fucking get this job |
| 22:44.42 | Ashamed | i am so ready to move on |
| 22:45.29 | XorioZ | Ashamed you put up for a new job? |
| 22:45.43 | XorioZ | ill cross my fingers for ya |
| 22:46.05 | Ashamed | yes please i have done 2 interviews already lol |
| 22:46.08 | Ashamed | this is the last one |
| 22:46.57 | Ashamed | the good thing is they told me on friday that they were doing more interviews and not to expect to get a call back for 1-2 weeks |
| 22:47.09 | Ashamed | ;) so i hope that means i impressed them. |
| 22:47.49 | Ashamed | i brought up sc2 in one of my interviews and the guy said i would fit just perfect :) |
| 22:47.50 | Ashamed | lol |
| 22:48.32 | HP-X|Arthas | tech support? =p |
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| 22:56.35 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ-xsBZ_Nqo |
| 22:56.37 | HP-X|Arthas | lol |
| 22:56.40 | HP-X|Arthas | awesome clip |
| 22:58.38 | Nash|327 | who has time for a quick test on EU :G |
| 22:58.53 | HP-X|Arthas | me |
| 22:58.59 | HP-X|Arthas | if you watch awesome clip! |
| 22:59.04 | HP-X|Arthas | i need to watch it one last time |
| 22:59.56 | Nash|327 | keke seen it |
| 23:00.00 | Nash|327 | now... |
| 23:00.04 | Nash|327 | TO THE BATTLENETS |
| 23:00.05 | HP-X|Arthas | im omw to sc2mapster |
| 23:03.41 | Bounty | Ashamed |
| 23:03.50 | Bounty | help me test new update real fast, added vehicles =P |
| 23:04.17 | HP-X|Arthas | Nash|327: hold uploading |
| 23:04.41 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 23:05.09 | HP-X|Arthas | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/15224363/Screenshot2011-07-07%2001_03_58.jpg |
| 23:05.41 | HP-X|Arthas | resolution 1680x1050 |
| 23:05.57 | Nash|327 | wtf is that button |
| 23:06.03 | HP-X|Arthas | voice |
| 23:06.07 | HP-X|Arthas | for battle net |
| 23:06.12 | RndmObjcts | i thought that command panel layout crashed games nash? QQ lol |
| 23:06.13 | HP-X|Arthas | and chat |
| 23:06.27 | Nash|327 | oh voice |
| 23:06.29 | Nash|327 | http://i.imgur.com/ISEzD.jpg |
| 23:06.32 | HP-X|Arthas | you dont have it? |
| 23:06.35 | Nash|327 | I have no such button |
| 23:07.00 | HP-X|Arthas | weird |
| 23:07.01 | Nash|327 | RndmObjcts: nope |
| 23:07.09 | HP-X|Arthas | my voice thingie is disabled and still button shows |
| 23:07.14 | HP-X|Arthas | how did you get rid of yours :( |
| 23:07.20 | Nash|327 | no idea |
| 23:07.29 | Ashamed | bounty bro |
| 23:07.31 | Ashamed | i am at work |
| 23:07.36 | Nash|327 | perhaps since my mic is not connected? |
| 23:07.42 | HP-X|Arthas | nor is mine |
| 23:07.44 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 23:07.56 | Nash|327 | well need to move minerals clearly D_D |
| 23:08.09 | HP-X|Arthas | so, lets get to the actual testing! |
| 23:08.15 | Ashamed | oh shiz |
| 23:08.18 | Ashamed | you guys are testing |
| 23:13.16 | XorioZ | oy Nash. are you gonna test some of the arenas soon? |
| 23:22.12 | Ashamed | 8 more minutes of hell |
| 23:22.14 | Ashamed | COME ON |
| 23:28.03 | Nash|327 | XorioZ: arena map isn't done yet though D_D |
| 23:40.27 | mapman_ | (ãಠçಠ)ã彡â»ââ» |
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| 23:54.50 | ThunderLord | is it possible to edit a button icon with catalogs? |
