| 00:00.00 | Otixa | And lambda functions |
| 00:00.01 | Nash|327 | I taught myself PHP several years ago. |
| 00:00.02 | Otixa | Mmmmm... |
| 00:00.05 | Otixa | rubs himself |
| 00:00.14 | Nash|327 | But mostly used Java in recent years. |
| 00:00.28 | Mexa|Zug | Speaking of which, can someone help me abit @C#? |
| 00:00.36 | Xan | no |
| 00:00.40 | Xan | :) |
| 00:00.48 | RndmObjcts | alright well what am i doing wrong then? i have the frame inside it as far as i know.. but im not a programmer and am most likely doing it wrong.. http://pastebin.com/hnbWLRZk is what my entire command panel code is |
| 00:00.51 | Otixa | If it's quick and simple ;P |
| 00:00.59 | Otixa | Too tired nao |
| 00:00.59 | Mexa|Zug | It's regarding attributes |
| 00:01.09 | Otixa | Same question from yesterday? |
| 00:01.26 | Mexa|Zug | I wasn't here yesterday |
| 00:01.28 | Nash|327 | You have the border frame inside CommandPanel. |
| 00:01.32 | Nash|327 | Not its parent. |
| 00:01.49 | Xan | otixa, your favorite language is php? |
| 00:01.57 | Otixa | Yeh :D |
| 00:02.06 | Xan | why? |
| 00:02.06 | Nash|327 | Hence why it does not work. |
| 00:02.21 | Otixa | Because it's quick to prototype with |
| 00:02.28 | Otixa | Quite powerful when used right |
| 00:02.30 | Nash|327 | Option 1: Move the frame to ConsoleUIContainer. |
| 00:02.31 | Otixa | And really dynamic |
| 00:02.32 | Mexa|Zug | Otixa, I want to add a DefaultValue to a property |
| 00:02.36 | Xan | true |
| 00:02.41 | Mexa|Zug | Which is not of a primitive type |
| 00:02.42 | Xan | well said |
| 00:02.45 | Otixa | And if it lacks something - You can always just code up your own module for it |
| 00:02.52 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: so i need to change <Frame type="Image" name="CommandPanelBorder"> to <Frame type="Image" name="ConsoleUIContainer">? |
| 00:02.52 | Nash|327 | Option 2: Remove all the $parent/CommandPanel and just put $parent |
| 00:02.56 | Mexa|Zug | Say, a custom class called Point |
| 00:03.00 | Otixa | Mephs, iunno ;/ |
| 00:03.03 | Nash|327 | NO D:< |
| 00:03.10 | RndmObjcts | xD |
| 00:03.16 | RndmObjcts | im sorry man |
| 00:03.41 | Nash|327 | It's like... |
| 00:03.46 | Nash|327 | A folder structure. |
| 00:03.49 | Mexa|Zug | Otixa, was that a reply to me? |
| 00:03.58 | Mexa|Zug | Or to Mephs, who didn't say anything... |
| 00:04.01 | Nash|327 | A folder inside a folder... |
| 00:04.03 | Otixa | Mexa|Zug, yeah. What do you mean property tho? |
| 00:04.14 | Nash|327 | If you do cd .. you end up in parent folder. |
| 00:04.35 | Otixa | Like in a class |
| 00:04.42 | Otixa | i.e. Point p1 = new Point() |
| 00:04.47 | Otixa | p1.x <- property? |
| 00:04.49 | Nash|327 | And cd ../KittunPics won't work if KittunPics are not in parent folder |
| 00:05.16 | Mexa|Zug | Otixa, a proterty, like public Point Position { get { return _position; } set { _position = value; } } |
| 00:05.24 | Xan | Ash4meD is that Slepee? |
| 00:05.31 | Mexa|Zug | *property |
| 00:05.38 | XorioZ | hmm i can see that the abilities for a unit in the data editor is an array. how would i go about fetching the names for ability number 4,5,6,7, and 8? |
| 00:05.39 | Nash|327 | It is not a matter of what frames are named. |
| 00:05.51 | Nash|327 | It's what they are placed inside. |
| 00:05.53 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 00:06.02 | Otixa | Mexa|Zug, so just add = WhateverDefaultValue at the end? :P |
| 00:06.12 | Xan | XorioZ: Ash4meD is Slepee? |
| 00:06.14 | Mexa|Zug | at what end` |
| 00:06.18 | XorioZ | Nope |
| 00:06.23 | Xan | who is it? |
| 00:06.28 | Slepee | What would I be ashamed of? |
| 00:06.35 | XorioZ | Slepee has no profile on mapster |
| 00:06.40 | Xan | oh |
| 00:06.45 | Xan | wtf is ashamed then? |
| 00:06.47 | Xan | :) |
| 00:06.50 | Mexa|Zug | Otixa, do you know what attributes are? |
| 00:07.00 | Otixa | Not entirely sure |
| 00:07.15 | Mexa|Zug | [Category("Layout"), DefaultValue(Anchor.Center)] |
| 00:07.17 | Mexa|Zug | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.17 | Mexa|Zug | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.17 | Mexa|Zug | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.17 | Mexa|Zug | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.17 | Mexa|Zug | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:07.19 | Otixa | Also, why'd you use accessors on the Point? :P |
| 00:07.27 | Mexa|Zug | The things in the brackets are attributes |
| 00:07.34 | Mexa|Zug | [] |
| 00:07.39 | Otixa | oh |
| 00:07.42 | XorioZ | Ash4meD is Ashamed he had some ideas on Banks and stuff like that so me and vail apointed him to do the bank system. |
| 00:07.53 | Xan | aha |
| 00:08.11 | Xan | Slepee should make an account |
| 00:08.24 | Mexa|Zug | Otixa, I need properties to allow the usage of a property grid |
| 00:08.30 | Mexa|Zug | Which displays properties |
| 00:08.45 | XorioZ | but he seam off most of the time. let time tell. if he is to inactive i think we will have to boot him. |
| 00:08.50 | Otixa | Uhh, dunno then ._. |
| 00:08.55 | Xan | he writes in forum though xor |
| 00:09.00 | XorioZ | and for Slepee i have asked him to create an account :9 |
| 00:09.02 | Otixa | Haven't done anything of that type before |
| 00:09.10 | Otixa | Also, I'm pretty sure we've already had this conversation |
| 00:09.17 | Mexa|Zug | Partially |
| 00:09.23 | XorioZ | ill go chek the forum then. |
| 00:09.25 | Mexa|Zug | I have no problems with them in general |
| 00:09.44 | Slepee | I barely touch the Map Editor, why should I make an account? |
| 00:09.52 | Xan | I must know, wtf are you named Slepee? |
| 00:09.54 | Xan | :P |
| 00:09.57 | XorioZ | it might just be that he's asleep when we are awake. :9 |
| 00:10.02 | Mexa|Zug | It's just that I have no idea to define default properties for complex types |
| 00:10.14 | Mexa|Zug | I mean reference types |
| 00:10.19 | XorioZ | it's a vary old name |
| 00:10.21 | Slepee | I already said, I am part Sle and part Pee. |
| 00:10.24 | Mexa|Zug | or structs, for that matter |
| 00:10.40 | Xan | Sle? |
| 00:10.55 | XorioZ | Think Slepee is from way back when he didn't know how to spell English properly |
| 00:10.59 | Otixa | He pees in his sleep |
| 00:11.06 | Xan | I see |
| 00:11.32 | XorioZ | Slepee make a profile on mapster. |
| 00:11.40 | Xan | do it! |
| 00:11.47 | Slepee | It's just some letters taken out of one of my middle names. |
| 00:11.59 | Slepee | and they happen to read sort of like sleepy |
| 00:12.08 | Slepee | which kind of fits to me |
| 00:12.27 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: ok i get the concept its easy enough to understand i just dont know what each one is.. when you say placing them inside one another i assume you mean putting one code under another and inside its </frame> so i just took option 2 and removed the /commandpanel and now i atleast have a border showing but it doesnt fit and changing the offsets doesnt fix it |
| 00:14.21 | RndmObjcts | no to mention i have my infopanel moved but it changes places depending on if im in fullscreen or windowed mode -_-... i wish i had the money to just go to school for shit like this. but if i did i wouldnt even care about it i would be in a school for something else -_- |
| 00:14.44 | Nash|327 | RndmObjcts: http://i.imgur.com/0LNb6.png |
| 00:14.54 | Nash|327 | I don't know how else to explain this shit. |
| 00:15.40 | Xan | Nash is very helpful |
| 00:15.56 | Xan | I would have lost patience about 1 hour ago :) |
| 00:16.08 | Nash|327 | I'm not a pedagogical person. |
| 00:17.03 | Nash|327 | I don't understand why people can't understand things. |
| 00:17.25 | Nash|327 | It makes it very hard to explain when you think it's obvious. :G |
| 00:18.00 | Xan | you have to think like you did before you knew what you know |
| 00:18.05 | RndmObjcts | i have no background with anything that has to do with coding. the most ive ever done was use wow-v.com to make wow items for a private server.. and that doesnt count xD |
| 00:18.23 | RndmObjcts | and i get the concept shown in the picture i just dont know how to change them |
| 00:18.26 | Nash|327 | But I never really did. |
| 00:18.29 | Nash|327 | That's the thing. |
| 00:18.48 | RndmObjcts | i dont know how the codes connected to the parent or how to connect it to something else |
| 00:18.58 | Nash|327 | I've never found this stuff hard. |
| 00:19.36 | Nash|327 | Which frame is parent is determined by what <Frame> </Frame> it is inside. |
| 00:19.39 | Xan | well you are special |
| 00:20.41 | Nash|327 | If you have <Frame A> <Frame B> <Frame C> </Frame> </Frame> </Frame> |
| 00:20.48 | Nash|327 | Then B is parent of C. |
| 00:21.01 | Nash|327 | If you have <Frame A> <Frame B> </Frame> <Frame C> </Frame> </Frame> |
| 00:21.01 | Xan | think of it as a hierarchy |
| 00:21.07 | Nash|327 | Then A is parent of C. |
| 00:21.18 | Nash|327 | Because B ends before C begins. |
| 00:21.25 | Nash|327 | So C cannot be in B. |
| 00:21.37 | Xan | ok well couldnt have explained it better myself |
| 00:22.20 | Slepee | C can be in B on an 8 digit LED display :P |
| 00:22.40 | Slepee | Okay, I am not helping... |
| 00:23.25 | Xan | lol |
| 00:24.43 | Nash|327 | It's hard to explain things that are logical. |
| 00:24.54 | Nash|327 | It's like trying to explain logic :o |
| 00:25.43 | Nash|327 | Syntax is of course another matter. |
| 00:25.50 | vail|gone | its doing that thing |
| 00:25.59 | vail|gone | where water falls from the sky |
| 00:26.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster Statharas (5e438b67@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.67.139.103) |
| 00:26.11 | Xan | oh that thing |
| 00:26.16 | Xan | I thought you were hot vail |
| 00:26.31 | vail|gone | it hot |
| 00:26.32 | Statharas | *mumble* *grumble* |
| 00:26.41 | Statharas | has anyone god experience with normals and specs? |
| 00:27.05 | Otixa | lurks in the shadows, snickering |
| 00:27.52 | Nash|327 | Well, I've met a lot of normal people and I used to wear glasses... |
| 00:27.55 | mapman_ | if you turn a trigge roff while its running, will it stop the currently running trigger or will it ony stop for the next time? |
| 00:28.17 | Nash|327 | use Skip Remaining Actions. |
| 00:28.21 | mapman_ | no |
| 00:28.27 | mapman_ | cuz i got some actions left |
| 00:28.31 | Otixa | Nash|327, he means the process of projection mapping of surface normals onto a 2D file :P |
| 00:28.33 | mapman_ | that i want it to finish |
| 00:28.41 | Otixa | And a file for specular reflections |
| 00:28.49 | Nash|327 | Well, do it AFTER those? |
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| 00:28.55 | Vail|RAIN | YAY |
| 00:29.01 | Xan | dont wear glasses any more nash? |
| 00:29.02 | Voisin | Sorry, guys, my mother in law was here |
| 00:29.10 | Vail|RAIN | happy pounces Voisin |
| 00:29.10 | Xan | welcome back |
| 00:29.13 | Nash|327 | no, glasses suck |
| 00:29.15 | Otixa | Voisin, she hates you |
| 00:29.18 | Xan | mother in law, is that your husbands mother? |
| 00:29.20 | Vail|RAIN | i like glasses my self |
| 00:29.22 | mapman_ | nash, no cuz its aperiodic trigger |
| 00:29.28 | XorioZ | the Dark Wizard Cast's shadow vail over the chatroom so Otixa has some more space to snicker in. |
| 00:29.30 | Voisin | *catches and cuddles Vail* yes, Xan, that is my husband's mother |
| 00:29.32 | Xan | do you use contacts then nash? |
| 00:29.36 | Nash|327 | Yes. |
| 00:29.38 | mapman_ | and i dont want him to start running again while the other one is finishing |
| 00:29.47 | Otixa | roams around the shadows |
| 00:29.58 | Voisin | and she doesn't hate me, contrary to what Otixa may think. She's actually one of my best friends |
| 00:30.07 | Nash|327 | So what you want is a semaphore of sorts. |
| 00:30.16 | Otixa | She secretly hates you |
| 00:30.21 | Otixa | Her son can do better ;p |
| 00:30.31 | Vail|RAIN | hah |
| 00:30.38 | Nash|327 | Use a boolean? |
| 00:30.40 | Statharas | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.42 | Vail|RAIN | you cant do better than Voisin ... |
| 00:30.49 | Voisin | Also, Vail, I think you mentioned a fuckyouOtixa need for a voice actor for a feminine childlike voice? |
| 00:30.52 | Voisin | Thank you, Vail. |
| 00:30.54 | Otixa | Statharas, did you read my thread? |
| 00:31.06 | Xan | rofl |
| 00:31.15 | Otixa | Voisin, temper temper :D |
| 00:31.18 | Xan | I like what you did there |
| 00:31.22 | Statharas | Yup |
| 00:31.24 | Vail|RAIN | yes i have been trying to edit |
| 00:31.34 | Vail|RAIN | powers going i may be vanishing soon |
| 00:31.35 | Otixa | Statharas, you're messing it up somehow then ;p |
| 00:31.50 | Otixa | Re-read the thread ;P |
| 00:31.51 | Statharas | Wanna see my diffuse normal and specular? |
| 00:31.56 | Statharas | :V |
| 00:31.58 | Otixa | Yeh, fine |
| 00:32.03 | Vail|RAIN | my stepfather is standing out side under the eve of the laundry room grilling stakes |
| 00:32.04 | Otixa | Post wires and shaded models aswell |
| 00:32.11 | Otixa | s/Post/Link/ |
| 00:32.13 | Nash|327 | I don't know how turning trigger off behaves if a trigger turns itself off. |
| 00:32.27 | Nash|327 | Should be easy to test, add a text message? |
| 00:32.47 | Statharas | http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin.php?id=f40nq6 |
| 00:32.47 | Nash|327 | If no text appears it stopped itself. |
| 00:32.50 | Vail|RAIN | grilling stakes ... in the rain |
| 00:33.00 | Otixa | You need to be logged in |
| 00:33.01 | Otixa | ;p |
| 00:33.07 | Xan | turning trigger off finishes the trigger before its turned off |
| 00:33.08 | Statharas | Yeah |
| 00:33.09 | Otixa | Statharas, link the images >:| |
| 00:33.13 | Statharas | that's the hive workshop :v |
| 00:33.15 | Xan | err finishes its actions I mean |
| 00:33.22 | Otixa | I'm not making an account ;p |
| 00:33.23 | tordy | omgosh! |
| 00:33.25 | Statharas | and it has a pastebin :v |
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| 00:33.27 | slightlyrandom | Nash|327: Turning itself off means it can't be called again |
| 00:33.32 | slightlyrandom | But will finish running |
| 00:33.40 | Xan | thats what I said |
| 00:33.45 | Xan | ^^ |
| 00:33.46 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, but I don't read |
| 00:33.47 | Nash|327 | Case closed. |
| 00:33.52 | slightlyrandom | Or rather, I read selectively |
| 00:33.52 | Statharas | otixa, try the direct link |
| 00:33.52 | Statharas | http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin_data/f40nq6/_files/NightElfArcher2_diffuse.dds |
| 00:34.00 | Otixa | DDS :/ |
| 00:34.05 | Statharas | >.> |
| 00:34.08 | Nash|327 | mapman_ you have your answer :G |
| 00:34.13 | mapman_ | yea |
| 00:34.15 | mapman_ | tks |
| 00:34.20 | mapman_ | boolean it is |
| 00:34.21 | Statharas | can you download it? |
| 00:34.23 | Otixa | I swear you're trying to troll me... |
| 00:34.25 | Otixa | Yeh |
| 00:34.38 | Otixa | k |
| 00:34.38 | Statharas | aight, i'll give you the other two links |
| 00:34.44 | tordy | yo waddup |
| 00:34.48 | Otixa | That's the nelf from WoW with compression and darkened bits |
| 00:34.53 | Statharas | http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin_data/f40nq6/_files/NightElfArcher2_specular.dds http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/pastebin_data/f40nq6/_files/NightElfArcher2_normal.dds |
| 00:35.01 | Statharas | Nope :D |
| 00:35.16 | Statharas | Ever played a game called Wc3? |
| 00:35.24 | Nash|327 | mapman_: Well, according to other people, turning trigger off will not stop current execution but will prevent it from being called further. |
| 00:35.24 | Xan | whats that? |
| 00:35.37 | mapman_ | well thats what i wanted |
| 00:35.41 | Nash|327 | If that is the case you don't need a boolean. |
| 00:35.45 | Otixa | Statharas, ;/ |
| 00:35.49 | mapman_ | but uhm...i already did a boolean condition |
| 00:35.52 | Otixa | Anyway, what's the problem? |
| 00:35.56 | mapman_ | so i guess it wont matter |
| 00:36.01 | mapman_ | but its good to know |
| 00:36.05 | Otixa | Normal seems fine |
| 00:36.12 | Statharas | Well |
| 00:36.16 | slightlyrandom | You can have a trigger turn itself off, run, then turn itself on again |
| 00:36.17 | Otixa | Even tho I get the feeling it's not generated from a highpoly |
| 00:36.21 | slightlyrandom | If you only want once instance to run at a time |
| 00:36.23 | Otixa | But then again, I had 4 sleeping pills |
| 00:36.26 | Statharas | ingame, the model gets way too much light if it faces one angle |
| 00:36.35 | Statharas | and becomes brown when it faces another angle |
| 00:36.37 | Nash|327 | Yeah, but if you have a lot of triggers you want to control that way, having lots of global booleans is wasteful. |
| 00:36.48 | Nash|327 | But for 1 trigger, no big deal. |
| 00:36.50 | Otixa | Statharas, that has to do with the shader settings, not the texture |
| 00:37.14 | slightlyrandom | Having such behaviour in one place is also more neat, and easier to debug |
| 00:37.17 | Statharas | well |
| 00:37.19 | Otixa | Tho, you should leave some color in the spec |
| 00:37.21 | slightlyrandom | For what that's worth |
| 00:37.28 | Statharas | what should i do? |
| 00:37.30 | Otixa | That's part of the reason |
| 00:37.36 | slightlyrandom | DO A BARRELROLL! |
| 00:37.36 | Otixa | Color in specular map ¬¬ |
| 00:37.48 | Otixa | Also what slightlyrandom said |
| 00:38.08 | Statharas | i tried using the diffuse as spec |
| 00:38.11 | Statharas | same result |
| 00:38.13 | XorioZ | hmm. there are objective trigger stuff. wonder if i can use that? |
| 00:38.15 | Xan | what is a semaphore? explain |
| 00:38.16 | Xan | :D |
| 00:38.24 | Mexa|Zug | Otixa, I found how to do it, yay |
| 00:38.29 | Xan | dictionary doesnt help |
| 00:38.33 | Otixa | pats Mexa|Zug |
| 00:38.37 | Xan | or rather, too tired to understand dictionary |
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| 00:38.43 | Otixa | Statharas, play with the shader settings then |
| 00:38.54 | Statharas | what shader settings :v? |
| 00:38.59 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 00:39.02 | Otixa | SC2 shader |
| 00:39.03 | Otixa | in max |
| 00:39.07 | Otixa | specular, HDR spec |
| 00:39.08 | Otixa | etc |
| 00:39.20 | Otixa | You should prolly decrease them |
| 00:39.38 | Otixa | But don't set them to 0 |
| 00:39.42 | Otixa | Bad things will happen |
| 00:40.00 | slightlyrandom | Xan A device for moving information visually over large distances ? |
| 00:40.14 | Statharas | wait, materials? |
| 00:40.18 | Statharas | never found such thing there o.0 |
| 00:40.21 | Nash|327 | A semaphore in this context is a programming signal to handle mutually exclusive resources in a multi-threaded environment. |
| 00:40.27 | Otixa | ;/ |
| 00:40.39 | Xan | oh |
| 00:40.56 | XorioZ | hmm right about now it would be nice to make some custom event definitions. |
| 00:41.01 | Xan | now I am much smarter |
| 00:41.18 | slightlyrandom | Well, normally it's like smoke signals, but with flags or somesuch thing |
| 00:41.31 | Otixa | Statharas, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10032576/misc/doubleMisc/Untitled-3.jpg |
| 00:41.48 | Nash|327 | If you have 4 CPUs and only one memory, you can't let them all use memory at the same time. |
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| 00:41.58 | Otixa | Also, if you didn't know this |
| 00:42.04 | Otixa | 1. You fail at reading |
| 00:42.08 | XorioZ | does the custom event definition even work? |
| 00:42.09 | Otixa | 2. Your problem is solved |
| 00:42.09 | Nash|327 | So while one CPU uses memory the others are told to wait. |
| 00:42.19 | Statharas | Otixa, obviously. |
| 00:42.34 | Xan | what if you have 2 memory modules? |
| 00:42.41 | Xan | are they treated as 1? |
| 00:42.47 | XorioZ | depends |
| 00:42.48 | Nash|327 | Semaphore is such a signal, saying "this resource is occupied, you must wait". |
| 00:42.53 | Otixa | Otixa sleepy now ¬¬ |
| 00:43.06 | Statharas | Otixa, Specularity? |
| 00:43.14 | Nash|327 | And another can be "this resource is now available". |
| 00:43.27 | Otixa | And HDR settings |
| 00:43.29 | Xan | I see |
| 00:43.52 | Nash|327 | Can be high-level too. |
| 00:44.14 | Otixa | Yeh |
| 00:44.17 | Statharas | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/932170/Hive/spec.png |
| 00:44.21 | Otixa | Sleeping pills are deffinately working |
| 00:44.29 | Statharas | like that? |
| 00:44.39 | Otixa | Statharas, set HDR spec and em to like 0.2 |
| 00:44.43 | Otixa | And spec to 1 |
| 00:45.01 | Otixa | And load in the textures |
| 00:45.06 | Otixa | Apply to model |
| 00:45.11 | Otixa | Reset Xform |
| 00:45.16 | Otixa | Convert to mesh |
| 00:45.19 | Otixa | Export |
| 00:45.20 | slightlyrandom | and do a BARRELROLL! |
| 00:45.23 | Otixa | Import textures first |
| 00:45.28 | Otixa | And do a barrelroll |
| 00:45.28 | slightlyrandom | Aight, but then do one |
| 00:45.32 | tordy | any reason why my map would not show up in the cache but in-game it's downloaded? |
| 00:45.44 | slightlyrandom | Protected? |
| 00:45.45 | Otixa | Actually, you can set spec to around 10 |
| 00:45.50 | XorioZ | ok so i created an event definition and set the option to event. now if i make it return a bool does it run the trigger when it is true or what? |
| 00:45.51 | tordy | nah other maps are protected too' |
| 00:45.56 | tordy | but i can see their cache |
| 00:46.03 | Otixa | You'll be playing around with it anyway |
| 00:46.09 | tordy | im using sc2cachemanager |
| 00:46.15 | tordy | it shows every map, cept mine |
| 00:46.24 | slightlyrandom | Must be magic |
| 00:46.29 | tordy | i deleted my cache folder |
| 00:46.31 | tordy | then redownloaded |
| 00:46.34 | tordy | still not there |
| 00:47.05 | tordy | does it use map editor cache in-game too? |
| 00:47.08 | Vail|RAIN | http://puns.icanhascheezburger.com/2011/06/23/funny-puns-paper-shredder/ |
| 00:47.10 | Otixa | Right, sleepy times |
| 00:47.17 | tordy | dfont sleep |
| 00:47.18 | tordy | D: |
| 00:47.19 | Otixa | Bai nubs |
| 00:47.40 | Nash|327 | http://memebase.com/2011/07/02/memes-yo-pony-we-heard-you-like/ D: |
| 00:48.38 | Nash|327 | One of the best "yo dawg". |
| 00:49.24 | Mexa|Zug | Nash, are you a brony? |
| 00:50.24 | Nash|327 | no |
| 00:50.31 | Nash|327 | I just thought it was clever. |
| 00:51.37 | Nash|327 | http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/photos/images/original/000/000/193/derivatives.jpg is also a good one. |
| 00:52.55 | Nash|327 | What is the deal with all these "bronies" anyway? |
| 00:53.06 | slightlyrandom | My Little Ponies is surprisingly good |
| 00:53.27 | Nash|327 | Do we need a label for people who watch a certain TV show :G |
| 00:53.34 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, thats stupid |
| 00:53.42 | Mexa|Zug | Because of the memes |
| 00:53.45 | Mexa|Zug | Obviously |
| 00:53.50 | Mexa|Zug | And because of all the hate |
| 00:54.04 | Nash|327 | Like TREKKIES |
| 00:54.09 | XorioZ | argh someone help. cant get a custom event defenition to work |
| 00:54.29 | Nash|327 | I watch Star Trek (not the original though) |
| 00:54.41 | Xan | custom event definitions don't work |
| 00:54.42 | Nash|327 | Doesn't mean I feel the need to assume some label. |
| 00:54.45 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 00:55.06 | XorioZ | you must be kidding me. why the hell did blizzard put them there then? |
| 00:55.08 | Mexa|Zug | Well, people don't hate people who like Star Trek |
| 00:55.25 | slightlyrandom | hah! |
| 00:55.30 | Mexa|Zug | But watching MLP:FIM makes you obviously a pedophile |
| 00:55.49 | Mexa|Zug | And a furry |
| 00:55.55 | Nash|327 | And why do you need to join some "group" and adopt a label because people hate you? |
| 00:56.02 | Mexa|Zug | You don't |
| 00:56.09 | Xan | I think they are broken xorioz |
| 00:56.10 | Nash|327 | STRENGTH IN NUMBERS |
| 00:56.12 | Xan | at least in GUI |
| 00:56.22 | Mexa|Zug | But I can imagine it is something like "unite, bronies, to our common enemies" |
| 00:56.31 | slightlyrandom | My guess is that "old" people that like MLP don't really expext there to be a large following, and might even think themselves a bit odd |
| 00:56.34 | Nash|327 | People are just afraid of being individuals and standing up for themselves. |
| 00:56.34 | Statharas | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/932170/Hive/Screenshot2011-07-03%2003_54_58.jpg |
| 00:56.41 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, basically |
| 00:56.57 | Nash|327 | Join a group, a subculture or whatever. |
| 00:57.02 | Nash|327 | Adopt a label. |
| 00:57.09 | slightlyrandom | In this case, I can see the use |
| 00:57.24 | Nash|327 | Then you don't have to be a single exposed individual! |
| 00:57.30 | slightlyrandom | Once it has a name, it's a thing, and that makes it more legitimate |
| 00:57.31 | Nash|327 | IT'S TOO SCARY D: |
| 00:57.54 | slightlyrandom | Stop mocking evolved behaviour, eh? |
| 00:58.11 | Nash|327 | Well, being different should be accepted without labels. |
| 00:58.18 | slightlyrandom | Yes, but it isn't |
| 00:58.35 | Nash|327 | I think it's stupid that you put a label on something and suddenly you get special treatment for that. |
| 00:58.55 | Xan | hm |
| 00:58.57 | Nash|327 | People are what they are, fuck labels. |
| 00:58.58 | Xan | bed I think |
| 00:58.59 | Xan | nn |
| 00:59.35 | Nash|327 | Some labels can be useful because the word is descriptive, of course. |
| 00:59.52 | Nash|327 | Many are just fraught with ambiguity and personal connotations. |
| 01:00.03 | Nash|327 | And many other are just useless. |
| 01:03.02 | Nash|327 | Once you put a label on something, people just read the label and never look at the content. |
| 01:04.16 | tordy | big pimpin |
| 01:07.20 | XorioZ | if i cant make a custom event definition. then how would i go about making a trigger run when 3 vars of the type boolean are all true? |
| 01:07.41 | Nash|327 | POLLING D: |
| 01:08.55 | Nash|327 | I try to avoid polling. |
| 01:10.07 | Nash|327 | You can't do something with the events that set these booleans to true? |
| 01:10.13 | XorioZ | i could do it as an action definition that i run each time i set one of the booleen's to true. within this i could check them all 3.. yes that might work |
| 01:11.02 | Nash|327 | Beats polling. |
| 01:11.52 | Nash|327 | Though action definition would be less clean to me. |
| 01:12.15 | Nash|327 | Make a trigger with boolean checks in the conditions. |
| 01:12.39 | Nash|327 | Use Run Trigger with Check Conditions on after setting a boolean. |
| 01:12.56 | Nash|327 | Though that's just my preference. |
| 01:13.13 | XorioZ | is that not exactly the same as doing it with an action? |
| 01:13.24 | XorioZ | or nerly the same? |
| 01:13.44 | Nash|327 | Well the actiions will run in its own thread. |
| 01:14.05 | Nash|327 | And you won't have to put them inside an IF-THEN-ELSE |
| 01:14.38 | Nash|327 | Which looks cleaner and easier to debug because of no nesting and crap. |
| 01:15.14 | Nash|327 | If your actions contain further Ifs, then you'll get an if in and if etc... |
| 01:15.43 | Nash|327 | Reduces legibility of code. |
| 01:16.52 | Nash|327 | The thing about triggers is that you can't use parameters. |
| 01:17.06 | Nash|327 | If you need parameters, use a function. |
| 01:18.15 | Nash|327 | Or if you want to run things inside the same thread instead of a new one. |
| 01:23.32 | Nash|327 | I do have a few action definitions without parameters, should've used triggers instead, but oh well. |
| 01:25.44 | Nash|327 | Oh and if you have a crapload of action definitions which contain loops and no waits, and use those in a trigger, you run the risk of "trigger took too long to execute" errors. |
| 01:27.44 | XorioZ | thx |
| 01:30.03 | Slepee | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEOLPDOKdtY just the fav. song evar! |
| 01:30.57 | Nash|327 | Another 8 bit fetishist? |
| 01:31.00 | Mexa|Zug | Nash, what it does is to create globals so that whatever you pass through parameters are copied in that way |
| 01:31.14 | Mexa|Zug | @ActionDefinition and create thread |
| 01:31.26 | Slepee | Fetish? Nothing sexual about it. |
| 01:31.42 | Slepee | This is my fucking religion xD |
| 01:31.44 | Nash|327 | I use globals to send parameters to triggers even :G |
| 01:32.13 | Nash|327 | I don't use action defs with create thread though. |
| 01:32.23 | Slepee | You can thank me when I program the PIC in your coffee machine to make your poison just right. |
| 01:32.47 | Mexa|Zug | Nash, it's how Blizzard did too anyways. |
| 01:33.20 | Nash|327 | I just made a Trigger Message folder and added globals there |
| 01:33.46 | Nash|327 | 1 global per parameter. |
| 01:34.15 | Nash|327 | Then create triggers and assign them to trigger variables using script. |
| 01:34.52 | Brainshack | why the copy of the variables? |
| 01:35.14 | Nash|327 | There's no copy... |
| 01:35.45 | Nash|327 | When you create arena, trigger messages are set based on your settings. |
| 01:35.48 | Brainshack | when you assing the value of a global variable to a local variable it will copy? |
| 01:36.20 | Nash|327 | Then trigger is created, fetches the trigger message variables and uses them as parameters :G |
| 01:40.11 | Nash|327 | Obviously if you set a global to a local value there's copying involved, but locals can't be accessed outside their scope, so they are useless for trigger messaging. :G |
| 01:54.14 | Mexa|Zug | test |
| 01:54.18 | XorioZ | Nash? does using Records have some form of negative effect on the overall trigger code if lets say for example i use 8 of them. |
| 01:57.57 | Nash|327 | I don't use Records. |
| 01:58.12 | Nash|327 | Dustin |
| 01:58.16 | Nash|327 | RECORDS |
| 01:59.06 | Nash|327 | I don't see why it should. |
| 01:59.41 | Nash|327 | Same data being stored, just access it differently in editor. |
| 01:59.53 | Nash|327 | Unless they made terrible Records. |
| 02:11.39 | Vail|RAIN | vroom baby |
| 02:17.04 | Mexa|Zug | Hey Nash btw |
| 02:17.39 | Mexa|Zug | I admiditly apologize that I was wrong - we don't have socialism. |
| 02:30.52 | Nash|327 | Heh, that's a blast from the past. |
| 02:31.44 | Nash|327 | Amazing you remembered and took the time to admit your error. |
| 02:32.08 | Nash|327 | Have some kittuns for that! |
| 02:32.18 | Nash|327 | hands out 3 bagged kittuns. |
| 02:35.37 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: sorry i had to do some stuff out of the blue, anyway i read what you said.. and if i followed correctly then in this code http://pastebin.com/WbXB1gHP command panel is the parent to the border right? |
| 02:40.18 | RndmObjcts | well regardless i can see a border now.. but when i try to move something.. say the left offset.. once i get it to the point where it would actually be on the outside of the command panel and in the correct spot.. it cuts it off and i cant figure out why.. ive tried making it a negative value positive.. changing its anchor to mid and changing the value and the same with max.. and nothing works.. and if i change both left and t |
| 02:43.08 | Nash|327 | why did you change offsets? |
| 02:44.04 | RndmObjcts | because with the offsets at 0 its like three times to small and behind the command panel all together |
| 02:45.02 | Nash|327 | ...why did you set offsets to 0? |
| 02:45.38 | RndmObjcts | i just wrote the lines out by hand.. is there like a set amount i should be using? |
| 02:46.28 | Nash|327 | -20,-20,10,5 |
| 02:46.38 | Nash|327 | Those work well for some reason |
| 02:46.42 | Nash|327 | don't ask me why |
| 02:46.57 | Nash|327 | don't ask me how to modify it to do something else |
| 02:47.35 | Nash|327 | I just copy/pasted them from elsewhere. |
| 02:47.55 | Nash|327 | I never took the time to figure out the why of it. It works. |
| 02:49.34 | RndmObjcts | ok with those values it does the same thing |
| 02:49.36 | RndmObjcts | http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8457/commandpanel.jpg |
| 02:49.48 | Mexa|Zug | is gracious for all the kittuns he received. |
| 02:50.01 | RndmObjcts | the left sides cut off and the rest is just out of place |
| 02:50.37 | Nash|327 | D: |
| 02:50.41 | Nash|327 | wtf |
| 02:50.55 | Mexa|Zug | Ish, off to dish more dishes :| |
| 02:53.36 | RndmObjcts | http://pastebin.com/WbXB1gHP is the entire code command panel code.. its placement and the border.. is there something wrong with it? |
| 02:57.01 | Nash|327 | Well I dunno. |
| 02:57.18 | Nash|327 | It works for me but not you, so odd! |
| 02:58.30 | RndmObjcts | alright well thanks anyway for everything, i'll make a forum post and see if anyone knows what the problem is. |
| 02:59.53 | Nash|327 | Helral might |
| 03:00.27 | Mexa|Zug | Hmm, is any other format than dds and tga supported in sc2? |
| 03:02.35 | Nash|327 | RndmObjcts: I don't suppose you tried INCREASING the offsets? |
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| 03:03.12 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: yea ive increased and decreased everything but it does the same thing every time, either cuts it off or makes it all disapear |
| 03:03.50 | Nash|327 | I may have a theory |
| 03:04.00 | Nash|327 | You put the border INSIDE command panel |
| 03:04.13 | Nash|327 | And the command panel is limited in size... |
| 03:04.29 | Nash|327 | So when you increase offsets the border ends up outside the element it's inside |
| 03:04.33 | Nash|327 | thus cut off |
| 03:04.43 | RndmObjcts | so take it outside? |
| 03:04.50 | Nash|327 | yup |
| 03:05.00 | Nash|327 | that's probably why it works for me |
| 03:05.21 | Nash|327 | I put border in ConsoleUIContainer |
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| 03:06.41 | RndmObjcts | ok just taking it out didnt work but i'll put it in the container now and try |
| 03:07.11 | Nash|327 | you'll have to change the anchor references too |
| 03:08.52 | RndmObjcts | too? |
| 03:09.22 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 03:09.32 | Nash|327 | When you move it, you must change them. |
| 03:09.47 | RndmObjcts | sorry i ment to, to what? |
| 03:10.02 | Nash|327 | $parent/CommandPanel |
| 03:10.21 | Nash|327 | Assuming, of course, that you put it in ConsoleUIContainer |
| 03:10.39 | RndmObjcts | http://pastebin.com/4ajbMSUV is the code now |
| 03:10.43 | RndmObjcts | without changing them |
| 03:11.09 | Nash|327 | it's still inside CommandPanel |
| 03:12.16 | RndmObjcts | http://pastebin.com/JNDQjWHH ? |
| 03:12.48 | Nash|327 | Now you put CommandPanel inside your border |
| 03:12.53 | Nash|327 | will probably crash game |
| 03:14.23 | Mexa|Zug | Nash, do you like game or movie soundtracks? |
| 03:14.28 | Nash|327 | no |
| 03:14.32 | Mexa|Zug | baw |
| 03:14.37 | Mexa|Zug | I'm so loneluy |
| 03:14.41 | Nash|327 | I like punk. |
| 03:14.55 | Mexa|Zug | Ah yes, I remember that |
| 03:15.14 | RndmObjcts | http://pastebin.com/UVdTcjaj ? |
| 03:15.18 | Nash|327 | I generally dislike soundtracks, I feel they're often just a cheap way of trying to enhance scenes. |
| 03:15.36 | Nash|327 | Instead of having truly engaging scenes which speak for themselves. |
| 03:16.01 | Nash|327 | Yes, RndmObjcts, but remove GameUI/UIContainer/ConsoleUIContainer/ |
| 03:16.08 | Nash|327 | before CommandPanel |
| 03:16.25 | Nash|327 | and you'll probably make the map less crashy |
| 03:16.46 | RndmObjcts | completely take it out or just move it to above the border? |
| 03:16.53 | Nash|327 | also remove file="GameUI" |
| 03:16.55 | Nash|327 | remove |
| 03:16.59 | Nash|327 | delete |
| 03:17.03 | Nash|327 | annihilate |
| 03:17.38 | Mexa|Zug | destroy |
| 03:17.46 | Nash|327 | send to the great hard drive in the sky? |
| 03:17.52 | Mexa|Zug | explode |
| 03:17.54 | Mexa|Zug | asplode |
| 03:18.09 | Mexa|Zug | derp |
| 03:18.29 | RndmObjcts | http://pastebin.com/xm0xqUGA ? |
| 03:18.54 | Nash|327 | oh you removed the frame D_D |
| 03:19.09 | Nash|327 | That is not what I meant at all. |
| 03:19.25 | Nash|327 | GameUI/UIContainer/ConsoleUIContainer/CommandPanel |
| 03:19.32 | Nash|327 | remove GameUI/UIContainer/ConsoleUIContainer/ |
| 03:19.37 | RndmObjcts | ok gotcha, i think |
| 03:20.08 | Nash|327 | and the file="GameUI" at the end of same line |
| 03:20.17 | RndmObjcts | http://pastebin.com/FT4SqDKz ? |
| 03:20.37 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 03:21.30 | RndmObjcts | took the border away completely |
| 03:21.44 | Nash|327 | show me your whole layout file |
| 03:22.20 | RndmObjcts | ok but im guessing you will most likely just laugh or something because im sure ive done more wrong than holy hell |
| 03:22.30 | Nash|327 | one thing at a time |
| 03:22.54 | RndmObjcts | http://pastebin.com/vLAmmvFJ is the entire file |
| 03:23.51 | Nash|327 | create a frame for GameUI/UIContainer/ |
| 03:24.18 | Nash|327 | put frame for ConsoleUIContainer inside it |
| 03:24.33 | Nash|327 | Put all the stuff that goes into ConsoleUIContainer inside THAT frame |
| 03:24.56 | Nash|327 | You have 2 ConsoleUIContainer frames |
| 03:25.03 | Nash|327 | and 2 minimappanel frames |
| 03:25.35 | Nash|327 | And a bunch of frames that belong in ConsoleUIContainer declared separately |
| 03:25.46 | Nash|327 | extremely unreliable :G |
| 03:26.17 | Nash|327 | May or may not cause problems with this specific part, better safe than sorry though |
| 03:27.19 | RndmObjcts | alright this might take a minute but im going to try and figure this out |
| 03:27.35 | Nash|327 | if you have stuff like GameUI/UIContainer/ConsoleUIContainer/MinimapPanel then it means that the frame is called MinimapPanel and belongs in ConsoleUIContainer |
| 03:27.54 | Nash|327 | So rename it to just MinimapPanel and put it inside ConsoleUIContainer |
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| 03:28.53 | Nash|327 | Do that until you have no duplicates and frames only have names and not path (except of course GameUI/UIContainer/ frame) |
| 03:30.20 | RndmObjcts | alright |
| 03:30.54 | RndmObjcts | and should <Frame type="MinimapPanel" name="GameUI/UIContainer/ConsoleUIContainer/MinimapPanel" file="GameUI"> have the "file="GameUI" taken off aswell? |
| 03:31.05 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 03:31.07 | RndmObjcts | ok |
| 03:31.16 | Nash|327 | everything except GameUI/UIContainer/ |
| 03:31.24 | Nash|327 | it should be at the top in the end |
| 03:31.50 | Nash|327 | So you will have <Frame type='Frame' name='GameUI/UIContainer' file='GameUI'> |
| 03:31.57 | Nash|327 | Then everything else inside that. |
| 03:34.22 | RndmObjcts | so the start should look like this "<Frame type='Frame' name='GameUI/UIContainer' file='GameUI'> <Frame type='Frame' name='ConsoleUIContainer'>"? |
| 03:34.37 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 03:34.39 | RndmObjcts | alright |
| 03:35.15 | RndmObjcts | and should <Frame type='Button' name='GameUI/UIContainer/FullscreenUpperContainer/TeamResourceButton'> be outside of the <Frame type='Frame' name='ConsoleUIContainer'>? |
| 03:35.40 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 03:35.53 | Nash|327 | you will need a frame for FullscreenUpperContainer |
| 03:36.03 | Nash|327 | then TeamResourcedButton sinde that |
| 03:36.12 | Nash|327 | and put all of that inside UIContainer |
| 03:38.11 | Nash|327 | <Frame type='Frame' name='FullscreenUpperContainer'> <Frame type='Button' name='TeamResourceButton'> |
| 03:38.12 | Nash|327 | etc |
| 03:40.21 | RndmObjcts | but that one should be inside the initial <Frame type='Frame' name='GameUI/UIContainer' file='GameUI'> right? |
| 03:41.27 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 03:42.27 | RndmObjcts | alright i think i have it done http://pastebin.com/0JvdrDXG |
| 03:43.41 | Nash|327 | still 2 Minimappanels |
| 03:44.04 | Nash|327 | also, GameUI/UIContainer/FullscreenUpperContainer/TeamResourceButton |
| 03:44.13 | Nash|327 | should be TeamResourceButton |
| 03:47.18 | RndmObjcts | alright http://pastebin.com/E1Hmz4Ac |
| 03:48.02 | Nash|327 | pingbuttons etc don't go inside minimap |
| 03:49.22 | Nash|327 | oh and you put ColorButton inside TerrainButton |
| 03:50.12 | Nash|327 | You should fix your indentation, makes it much easier to see where and if frames are closed. |
| 03:51.17 | Nash|327 | Copy/paste tends to ruin it, I prefer to do is directly after pasting stuff. |
| 03:51.26 | Nash|327 | Before chaos ensues. |
| 03:53.26 | RndmObjcts | it looks better inside the actual notpad its being messed up in the paste online idk why |
| 03:53.32 | RndmObjcts | heres my next try http://pastebin.com/NdTWNQid |
| 03:54.05 | Nash|327 | ColorButton still inside TerrainButton |
| 03:54.22 | RndmObjcts | oh i thought you said to put it inside it lol. my bad xD i read it wrong |
| 03:55.17 | Nash|327 | I have this suspicion you have too many </Frame> |
| 03:56.00 | Nash|327 | Which would quickly become obvious with indentation. |
| 03:56.47 | Nash|327 | You sure it's indented correctly even in your editor? |
| 03:56.48 | RndmObjcts | yea |
| 03:56.52 | RndmObjcts | i just corrected those |
| 03:57.03 | RndmObjcts | i had two extra |
| 03:59.21 | Nash|327 | so does it work? |
| 03:59.47 | RndmObjcts | alright i think i found another problem aside from that.. the minimappanelborder isnt supposed to be inside the minimappanel is it? but it is suppose to be inside the consoleuicontainer right? |
| 04:00.20 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 04:00.53 | Nash|327 | but it's not in MinimapPanel..? |
| 04:01.27 | RndmObjcts | no its outside of the panel but inside the container now.. it was outside of both of them |
| 04:01.36 | Nash|327 | Though it depends which </Frame> you deleted. |
| 04:01.46 | RndmObjcts | yea |
| 04:02.32 | Nash|327 | I assume you deleted 2 from one group and 0 from another? |
| 04:02.51 | Nash|327 | Specifically, the group above Fullscreen... |
| 04:02.53 | RndmObjcts | no i deleted one from two groups |
| 04:03.42 | RndmObjcts | here this is what i have now http://pastebin.com/MF7dMafH |
| 04:05.48 | Nash|327 | looks correct |
| 04:06.16 | RndmObjcts | alright i'll give it a try |
| 04:11.00 | RndmObjcts | its working now!!! i need to change offsets of multiple things but the point is nothing is cutting off now and i believe the problem with my fullscreen - windowed mode wireframe is fixed now too once i re do its code |
| 04:11.48 | RndmObjcts | i owe you like 100 bags of kittens nash xD you single handedly made me understand the ui creating more!!! xD |
| 04:12.01 | Nash|327 | 100 BAGS!? OMG |
| 04:12.42 | Nash|327 | So many kittuns! |
| 04:13.14 | Mexa|Zug | And I'll rob 5 of them |
| 04:13.18 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 04:13.27 | Nash|327 | Learning by doing ftw. |
| 04:15.43 | Nash|327 | Mexagreek kittun thief |
| 04:16.07 | Nash|327 | I'l call interpol D: |
| 04:16.19 | Mexa|Zug | ohnoes |
| 04:16.25 | Nash|327 | they be stealin' mah kittuns |
| 04:16.28 | Mexa|Zug | throws them overboard |
| 04:16.40 | Nash|327 | Organized crime D: |
| 04:16.49 | Mexa|Zug | They're on a raft, go and get them. |
| 04:17.08 | Nash|327 | Kittun trafficking. |
| 04:17.19 | Mexa|Zug | :> |
| 04:17.38 | Mexa|Zug | For shizzle and biscuits, keke |
| 04:18.23 | Nash|327 | TEST MY MAP D:< |
| 04:19.27 | Mexa|Zug | Nay, I have more dishes and things to do |
| 04:19.37 | Nash|327 | Would you rather map my testes? |
| 04:19.44 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 04:20.00 | Mexa|Zug | map your testes |
| 04:20.22 | Nash|327 | D: |
| 04:20.24 | Mexa|Zug | hm= |
| 04:20.52 | Nash|327 | You don't know what testes are? |
| 04:22.51 | Mexa|Zug | I know perfectly well now. |
| 04:23.06 | Mexa|Zug | Wikipedia sure wanted to display pictures too |
| 04:23.20 | Nash|327 | hahahahaha |
| 04:23.41 | Mexa|Zug | So then, no I don't want to :G |
| 04:23.51 | Nash|327 | Then TEST MY MAP |
| 04:24.01 | Mexa|Zug | Another time |
| 04:24.10 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4992/commandpanel002.jpg :D :D :D :D |
| 04:24.21 | Mexa|Zug | Fooling me into testes sure made that time delayed |
| 04:24.25 | XorioZ | time for me to sleep. its 6 in the morning |
| 04:24.25 | Nash|327 | IT'S ALIVE |
| 04:24.42 | Nash|327 | I didn't tell you to look at testicles on wikipedia D_D |
| 04:25.05 | Mexa|Zug | Cause and effect |
| 04:25.13 | Mexa|Zug | durp |
| 04:25.19 | Nash|327 | Causality is a bitch? |
| 04:25.40 | Mexa|Zug | Yes, go punish it. |
| 04:26.00 | Xapti | What are you working on, Rndm |
| 04:26.23 | RndmObjcts | my ui |
| 04:26.33 | Xapti | fr what |
| 04:26.56 | RndmObjcts | my first map xD lol |
| 04:29.50 | RndmObjcts | alright i was wrong the wireframe still shifts positions when i from fullscreen to windowed |
| 04:33.10 | Mexa|Zug | Nashface, no sleep today? |
| 04:33.52 | Nash|327 | NEVER |
| 04:35.43 | RndmObjcts | hmm.. if i set the wireframes left to max it put it to the right .. same goes for the rest, its opposite. |
| 04:35.45 | RndmObjcts | lol |
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| 04:36.36 | Nash|327 | yes, because you're setting left to max :G |
| 04:37.51 | Nash|327 | if you attach the left side of something to the right side of something else |
| 04:37.58 | Nash|327 | of course it's on the right D_D |
| 04:40.09 | RndmObjcts | i didnt notice i had it set to parent/minimappanel |
| 04:40.32 | Mexa|Zug | Nash, do you happend to knwo what the 'subtitle panel' is, for a dialog? |
| 04:40.35 | Mexa|Zug | *know |
| 04:40.51 | Nash|327 | for a dialog? wha |
| 04:40.56 | Mexa|Zug | yeah |
| 04:41.30 | Nash|327 | Where did you see that? D_D |
| 04:41.30 | Mexa|Zug | 'Set Subtitle Position Override' action. |
| 04:41.46 | Mexa|Zug | And it mentions subtitle panel |
| 04:41.53 | Mexa|Zug | And I don't know heck what that is |
| 04:42.09 | Nash|327 | Ah maybe it moves the subtitle panel while dialog is active? |
| 04:42.24 | Mexa|Zug | possibly, but what is that :v? |
| 04:42.25 | Nash|327 | Because it's damn annoying when text shows up on top of dialog text |
| 04:42.40 | Nash|327 | Subtitle panel is where subtitles show up. |
| 04:42.46 | Mexa|Zug | What subtitles |
| 04:42.49 | Nash|327 | And text messages in general. |
| 04:42.54 | Mexa|Zug | Oh |
| 04:42.55 | Nash|327 | The campaign subtitles. |
| 04:43.04 | Nash|327 | Basically chat area. |
| 04:43.05 | Mexa|Zug | Hmm |
| 04:43.23 | Mexa|Zug | interesting |
| 04:43.26 | Nash|327 | I think it may be anchored to chat area |
| 04:43.39 | Nash|327 | Since I moved chat which also moved subtitle area |
| 04:43.59 | Mexa|Zug | So, using that function would tell the subtitle panel to display the text inside your dialog instead? |
| 04:44.20 | Nash|327 | Would just move it somewhere, I assume. |
| 04:44.46 | Nash|327 | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/set-subtitle-position-override/ |
| 04:44.49 | Mexa|Zug | It says 'to use the bounds of the specified dialog' |
| 04:44.59 | Mexa|Zug | I know that |
| 04:45.07 | Mexa|Zug | That's taken directly from the editor |
| 04:45.24 | Nash|327 | I don't have editor open :P |
| 04:45.41 | Mexa|Zug | mm, keke |
| 04:45.56 | Nash|327 | I guess it's if you want to make text messages for subtitle area show up in a dialog box |
| 04:46.32 | Nash|327 | So you can make a border and stuff for it. |
| 04:46.43 | Mexa|Zug | Could be so indeed |
| 04:46.46 | Mexa|Zug | I'll check |
| 04:47.02 | Nash|327 | Without syncing layout file editing with dialog position. |
| 04:49.03 | Nash|327 | Some things are easy to do with handy functions provided. |
| 04:49.09 | Nash|327 | Some things are such a pain. |
| 04:54.38 | Mexa|Zug | d |
| 04:55.25 | Mexa|Zug | I saw no difference at all |
| 04:55.30 | Mexa|Zug | hmm |
| 04:55.40 | Mexa|Zug | Could be broken like the comment says |
| 04:55.51 | Mexa|Zug | Just like the Modal/Non-modal option |
| 04:56.15 | Mexa|Zug | Last time I checked anyways |
| 05:06.24 | RndmObjcts | ok so my next task is to learn the values of the left right top and bottom.. cause as of now i have left max right min top max and bottom min and the wireframe is in the upper right most corner.. and i have no idea why lol. |
| 05:06.49 | slightlyrandom | http://imgur.com/MWPwW |
| 05:06.52 | slightlyrandom | This entertains me |
| 05:06.53 | slightlyrandom | Loads |
| 05:07.58 | slightlyrandom | You can hack together something quick that'll return mouse position on mouse button clicks |
| 05:08.58 | Nash|327 | left max = right |
| 05:09.46 | Nash|327 | take 2 pieces of paper |
| 05:10.06 | Nash|327 | on one, write left on left side, right on side side, top on top, etc |
| 05:10.24 | Nash|327 | on the other, write min on left, max on right, min on top and max on bottom |
| 05:10.57 | Nash|327 | then hold or tape those papers together according to your anchors |
| 05:14.25 | Nash|327 | if it's not doable without turning the paper's other side towards you you're doing something wrong |
| 05:18.55 | RndmObjcts | i think i understand |
| 05:20.14 | Mexa|Zug | http://memeburn.com/2011/07/microsoft-and-skype-set-to-allow-backdoor-eavesdropping/ okay hmm :G |
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| 05:28.50 | Mexa|Zug | A quick sleep mr Nashface? |
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| 05:34.00 | mapman_ | sup xeno |
| 05:34.07 | mapman_ | yo nash |
| 05:34.17 | mapman_ | nash|327 |
| 05:34.17 | XenoX101 | hiya |
| 05:34.22 | mapman_ | i got a good one for you |
| 05:35.56 | mapman_ | why do when I set color on a dialog button, it sort of stacks it on the default dialog color(which depends on race) instead of replacing the whole thing |
| 05:36.24 | mapman_ | even tough i hid the dialog background image |
| 05:37.16 | mapman_ | :3 |
| 05:37.44 | XenoX101 | coffee or tea, porridge or cereal, these are the million dollar questions I must always ask myself -.- ;p |
| 05:37.47 | Nash|327 | I had to reboot D: |
| 05:38.10 | mapman_ | :/ |
| 05:38.27 | mapman_ | so...you read my question? |
| 05:38.45 | mapman_ | xeno, coffe over tea |
| 05:38.48 | mapman_ | duh |
| 05:38.56 | XenoX101 | its instant though |
| 05:39.03 | Nash|327 | because editor hates you |
| 05:39.07 | mapman_ | and idk what porridge is but it sounds inferior to cereals |
| 05:39.15 | mapman_ | nash, i know that alerady |
| 05:39.16 | Nash|327 | OAKMEAL |
| 05:39.23 | mapman_ | you got any information which I dont already know? |
| 05:39.36 | Mexa|Zug | http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s112-978 :G |
| 05:39.39 | Nash|327 | Plenty. |
| 05:39.40 | XenoX101 | you don't know.. |
| 05:39.42 | XenoX101 | what porridge is..... |
| 05:39.45 | Nash|327 | Alas, none of it relevant. |
| 05:39.56 | mapman_ | i prolly just dont know the english word for it |
| 05:40.16 | mapman_ | oh well |
| 05:40.16 | Nash|327 | It's oakmeal, according to XorioZ. |
| 05:40.29 | mapman_ | yea i know oakmeal |
| 05:40.31 | mapman_ | its...decent |
| 05:40.39 | mapman_ | but goowy |
| 05:40.40 | XenoX101 | oatmeal |
| 05:40.52 | XenoX101 | I can make it good |
| 05:40.55 | XenoX101 | perfect consistency so it isn't gooey |
| 05:40.58 | XenoX101 | gooey is bad |
| 05:41.03 | XenoX101 | it should be CREAMY |
| 05:42.58 | XenoX101 | ok so |
| 05:43.13 | XenoX101 | my wonderful idea to ask in #teamliquid |
| 05:43.17 | XenoX101 | has lead to th conclusion of |
| 05:43.24 | XenoX101 | coffee-flavoured porridge ;p |
| 05:43.47 | XenoX101 | hm actually |
| 05:43.51 | XenoX101 | that sounds a little gross |
| 05:44.02 | Nash|327 | oakmeal is inferior porridge |
| 05:44.26 | Mexa|Zug | http://youtu.be/ib7-vSrp6y8 :| |
| 05:44.51 | XenoX101 | ok, porridge and tea it is |
| 05:45.01 | XenoX101 | now, green tea or black tea -.- |
| 05:45.05 | XenoX101 | jk |
| 05:45.07 | XenoX101 | just gonna go with green |
| 05:45.15 | Nash|327 | semolina > oak |
| 05:45.20 | XenoX101 | omg semolina |
| 05:45.24 | XenoX101 | I used to have that |
| 05:45.26 | XenoX101 | as a kid so much |
| 05:45.32 | XenoX101 | I bought a pack recently but never opened it :( |
| 05:45.36 | Mexa|Zug | If the law goes through, it might become a fellony to stream gaming matches, or upload game videos on youtube for instance |
| 05:45.42 | Mexa|Zug | sadface, really |
| 05:45.43 | XenoX101 | naw |
| 05:45.45 | XenoX101 | its not gonna happen |
| 05:45.52 | XenoX101 | capcom representative stated that |
| 05:45.56 | XenoX101 | they won't let that happen |
| 05:46.01 | Mexa|Zug | The law is at the congress right now |
| 05:46.05 | XenoX101 | blizzard won't either, because they rely on esports |
| 05:46.05 | Mexa|Zug | It can happend. |
| 05:46.14 | XenoX101 | they can't enforce what the companies don't want |
| 05:46.20 | XenoX101 | they have to bring the case to court |
| 05:46.22 | Nash|327 | careface :G |
| 05:46.22 | mapman_ | yea theres some epic nazis in US congress |
| 05:46.24 | XenoX101 | because its civil |
| 05:46.34 | XenoX101 | civil cases need to be brought to court |
| 05:46.40 | XenoX101 | so it won't work |
| 05:46.49 | Mexa|Zug | The law is intended to protect the other media industry |
| 05:46.53 | Mexa|Zug | eg videos/music etc |
| 05:46.59 | Mexa|Zug | But the sideeffect is gaming |
| 05:47.08 | mapman_ | which bought our politicians |
| 05:47.19 | mapman_ | so they work for them |
| 05:47.29 | Mexa|Zug | Blizzard and whatever company can already cease and decist material |
| 05:47.38 | Mexa|Zug | But this law would force it |
| 05:47.44 | RndmObjcts | anyone have any idea why changing an offset doesnt actually move the infopanel? |
| 05:48.09 | mapman_ | on a dialog? |
| 05:48.16 | XenoX101 | mexa, think about it this way |
| 05:48.27 | XenoX101 | the companies have already taken what action they can |
| 05:48.31 | XenoX101 | if the law passes |
| 05:48.35 | XenoX101 | they will take the same action |
| 05:48.38 | XenoX101 | against their users |
| 05:48.48 | XenoX101 | uploading music videos was already illegal |
| 05:48.51 | XenoX101 | so nothing has changed there |
| 05:48.52 | Mexa|Zug | Yes |
| 05:49.11 | XenoX101 | and game companies were never interested in prosecuting streamers |
| 05:49.15 | XenoX101 | so again, nothing will change there |
| 05:49.24 | Mexa|Zug | but the fact that doing it for several times may cause you to got to prison |
| 05:49.40 | Mexa|Zug | Still |
| 05:49.57 | Mexa|Zug | Might be something, might not be then. |
| 05:50.59 | Nash|327 | blah blah |
| 05:51.12 | Nash|327 | don't like that guy |
| 05:51.21 | Mexa|Zug | who? |
| 05:51.26 | Nash|327 | The video dude. |
| 05:51.28 | Mexa|Zug | meh |
| 05:51.31 | Mexa|Zug | you silly boy |
| 05:51.54 | Nash|327 | I don't like anyone who supports anti-piracy garbage. |
| 05:52.06 | Mexa|Zug | Lol |
| 05:52.15 | Nash|327 | Kill 'em all. |
| 05:52.22 | Mexa|Zug | You mean, you are disrespectful. |
| 05:52.38 | Nash|327 | I mean pewpewpew |
| 05:53.00 | Nash|327 | Up against the wall, etc. |
| 05:53.31 | Mexa|Zug | Rejecting other opinions without respecting them. |
| 05:53.48 | XenoX101 | can someone explain to me |
| 05:53.54 | XenoX101 | how the fuck to download from this site - ause you to got to prison |
| 05:53.56 | XenoX101 | http://www.fileserve.com/file/efZH829 |
| 05:53.58 | XenoX101 | oops |
| 05:54.06 | Nash|327 | I don't need to respect other people's opinions. |
| 05:54.42 | Mexa|Zug | Then don't expect the same kindness from others, if you think only your opinions are what's best for the world. |
| 05:54.48 | Nash|327 | I hate that PC "well, you're entitled to your opinion, even though I oppose everything you stand for and your views are totally nuts" |
| 05:55.04 | Nash|327 | Fuck 'em. |
| 05:55.15 | Nash|327 | Fuck racists, fuck fascists, fuck anti-pirates. |
| 05:55.29 | Nash|327 | I don't intend to respect their opinion. |
| 05:55.41 | Nash|327 | They are assholes. |
| 05:55.42 | slightlyrandom | XenoX101: The real problem, as I understand it, is that they intend to make it a felony |
| 05:55.47 | slightlyrandom | IE not a civil suit |
| 05:55.57 | Mexa|Zug | Wasn't talking about just them, I was making it more general |
| 05:56.13 | slightlyrandom | Nash|327: Thanks |
| 05:56.21 | Mexa|Zug | fuck pirates? No, I would be hhypocritical |
| 05:56.32 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, Nash is a fucking moron on that one point |
| 05:56.48 | slightlyrandom | Doesn't seem to listen much to reason, but then, what can you do |
| 05:56.59 | Nash|327 | Reason, hah. |
| 05:57.15 | Mexa|Zug | Nash, you are you in a nutshell |
| 05:57.28 | Nash|327 | I am me. |
| 05:57.45 | Mexa|Zug | a fool :D |
| 05:57.57 | Nash|327 | People get pissed off because of minor shit. |
| 05:58.04 | slightlyrandom | Nash|327: The problem is this: The public domain has ceased to exist. ALL culture is now privately owned. Everyone is thus a pirate, unless your lawyer says otherwise |
| 05:58.21 | Nash|327 | But they can ignore someone having moronic views because "they're entitled to their opinion". |
| 05:58.40 | Nash|327 | Well, your opinions say much more about you than that minor shit people get worked up about. |
| 05:58.41 | Mexa|Zug | You're talking about free speech now? |
| 05:58.54 | slightlyrandom | I agree |
| 05:59.12 | slightlyrandom | Since your opinions unearth your morals and values |
| 05:59.18 | slightlyrandom | Which, fundamentally, define you as a person |
| 05:59.38 | Nash|327 | Something like poor social skills is like OMG WTF YOU DOUCHE |
| 05:59.57 | Nash|327 | But being a selfish capitalist fuck who thinks it should be every man for himself is okay. |
| 06:00.08 | Nash|327 | Because he's entitled to his opinion! |
| 06:00.16 | slightlyrandom | Dude |
| 06:00.19 | slightlyrandom | You're not making sense |
| 06:00.25 | slightlyrandom | You're not even close |
| 06:00.47 | Nash|327 | Whatever. |
| 06:00.50 | XenoX101 | Nash I added you to special thanks on my map for helping me with dialogs |
| 06:00.52 | slightlyrandom | At least not if that is to be taken as a bash against pirates |
| 06:00.52 | XenoX101 | just fyi |
| 06:01.00 | slightlyrandom | Is it? |
| 06:01.06 | Nash|327 | I never bashed pirates. |
| 06:01.07 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 06:01.11 | slightlyrandom | Sorry |
| 06:01.11 | Nash|327 | WHAT? |
| 06:01.12 | slightlyrandom | Hah |
| 06:01.24 | slightlyrandom | Fuck me, I'm a sleep-deprived idiot |
| 06:01.50 | slightlyrandom | That'll teach me |
| 06:01.53 | slightlyrandom | Right, I love you Nash|327 |
| 06:01.58 | Nash|327 | No wonder I'm not making sense :P |
| 06:02.03 | slightlyrandom | You're one of my new best friends |
| 06:02.14 | Nash|327 | Kittuns for me? |
| 06:02.31 | slightlyrandom | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=kittuns&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=904&bih=487 |
| 06:02.34 | slightlyrandom | A google-full |
| 06:02.51 | Nash|327 | So many kittuns! |
| 06:03.18 | slightlyrandom | It's quite amazing whats happening in the world these days |
| 06:03.37 | Nash|327 | http://kittensforever.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/kittens4blog3.jpg |
| 06:03.39 | slightlyrandom | You have us, the idiots on the internet, with new-found freedoms, trying to preserve our way of life |
| 06:03.40 | Nash|327 | my wallpaper |
| 06:04.04 | slightlyrandom | And then you have the people in power, trying to preserver their way of life |
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| 06:04.24 | slightlyrandom | (Please excuse the spelling) |
| 06:04.27 | Nash|327 | Yeah and you have a bunch of neoluddite fucktards trying to limit the possibilities of technology to preserve an archaic economical system based on limited supply. |
| 06:04.34 | slightlyrandom | Those are them |
| 06:05.02 | slightlyrandom | And the more they tighten the screws, and try to make us conform |
| 06:05.09 | slightlyrandom | Ah, but that's a dream |
| 06:05.11 | Nash|327 | Well, I choose embracing technology over preserving your crappy system. |
| 06:05.13 | slightlyrandom | Most young folk don't care |
| 06:05.35 | Nash|327 | It's very Marxist. |
| 06:05.45 | slightlyrandom | Meh, no it's not |
| 06:05.58 | Nash|327 | The evolution of the means of production outgrow the confines of the economical system. |
| 06:06.06 | slightlyrandom | Ah, right |
| 06:06.08 | Nash|327 | That is historical dialectical materialism. |
| 06:06.16 | slightlyrandom | Big words |
| 06:06.24 | slightlyrandom | Sec, looking up dialectical |
| 06:07.14 | slightlyrandom | Aha |
| 06:07.44 | XenoX101 | Nash thats an interesting point |
| 06:07.52 | slightlyrandom | Well, I've long had a dream that once physical goods are unchained the way information has been |
| 06:07.53 | Nash|327 | http://pastebin.com/6cVFfVZb |
| 06:08.02 | Nash|327 | There, some Marx quotation for you. |
| 06:08.04 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 06:08.08 | slightlyrandom | That is, given free to be copied at will |
| 06:08.22 | slightlyrandom | With the improvement of 3d printers and similar technology |
| 06:08.30 | Nash|327 | nanotech |
| 06:08.38 | slightlyrandom | Whichever specific form it takes |
| 06:08.46 | slightlyrandom | But once you can copy shoes the way you can music |
| 06:08.48 | Nash|327 | It would be the end of capitalism. |
| 06:08.49 | XenoX101 | likely this means that |
| 06:09.00 | XenoX101 | you would need to incorporate some kind of |
| 06:09.04 | XenoX101 | reward system |
| 06:09.17 | XenoX101 | or some kind of levy for packet usage |
| 06:09.19 | XenoX101 | I don't know |
| 06:09.27 | slightlyrandom | Right now, we're largely competing and comparing in monetary terms |
| 06:09.47 | slightlyrandom | There is no natural law that states that this cannot happen in a different medium |
| 06:09.52 | slightlyrandom | Or form |
| 06:10.27 | slightlyrandom | Cory Doctorow has written quite a good book where the "measurement" unit is respect, or not appreciation |
| 06:10.35 | slightlyrandom | But, ehm |
| 06:10.45 | XenoX101 | if its not monetary though |
| 06:10.51 | XenoX101 | how can the producers hope to survive |
| 06:11.03 | XenoX101 | I definitely 100% agree with Nash that the system needs to be altered |
| 06:11.09 | Nash|327 | I wrote a short article in 2005. |
| 06:11.11 | slightlyrandom | Thats exactly it |
| 06:11.25 | Nash|327 | That sort of deals with this subject. |
| 06:12.18 | XenoX101 | Guys, HOMM6 beta is up! |
| 06:12.21 | XenoX101 | as of 28th june |
| 06:12.26 | XenoX101 | http://might-and-magic.ubi.com/heroes-6/en-GB/news/details.aspx?c=tcm:21-18898&ct=tcm:6-231-32 |
| 06:12.27 | slightlyrandom | Well, my sci-fi fueled dream involves largely automated production, with the rest done voluntarily or for the "respect points" it'd grant |
| 06:12.45 | Nash|327 | It begins with that Marx quote and discusses why capitalism will fail one way or another ;G |
| 06:13.05 | slightlyrandom | http://marshallbrain.com/manna1.htm |
| 06:14.44 | XenoX101 | Nash do you have a philosophical background at all |
| 06:14.52 | XenoX101 | or understanding of it |
| 06:15.03 | XenoX101 | just curious |
| 06:15.09 | Nash|327 | I haven't read much philosophy per se. |
| 06:15.18 | Nash|327 | I've read political works. |
| 06:15.55 | slightlyrandom | Political works are a short-cut to relevant philosophical knowledge |
| 06:16.00 | Nash|327 | I just tend to think about things a lot. |
| 06:16.30 | slightlyrandom | Relevant to questions that isn't "Why are we here?" and "What can we know?" |
| 06:16.39 | Nash|327 | You don't have to read philosophy to be a philosopher. |
| 06:16.44 | slightlyrandom | I agree |
| 06:16.53 | Nash|327 | In fact it might actually be better not to. |
| 06:16.57 | slightlyrandom | But philosophers can frame your thoughts for you |
| 06:17.01 | slightlyrandom | This is true |
| 06:17.03 | Nash|327 | Start from scratch. |
| 06:17.15 | slightlyrandom | They give a framework to understand these things in, but then you're sort of bound by it |
| 06:17.16 | Nash|327 | No influences to create preconceptions. |
| 06:17.26 | slightlyrandom | Or would be, if they weren't all bloody inventing their own frames |
| 06:18.06 | Nash|327 | I do ascribe to a rather Marxist view on history and society, though. |
| 06:19.31 | Nash|327 | I find it useful as a model. |
| 06:20.43 | slightlyrandom | He was a clever fellow |
| 06:22.34 | Nash|327 | I also found Rawls' "original position" somewhat interesting but don't share his conclusions. |
| 06:26.19 | slightlyrandom | Well, the idea of starting fresh and equal is an appealing one |
| 06:26.57 | Nash|327 | Will have to be once we kill all humans. |
| 06:27.38 | Nash|327 | Then kittuns and robots can take over. |
| 06:30.35 | Nash|327 | THE ROBO-KITTUN ALLIANCE |
| 06:34.43 | slightlyrandom | Haven't you heard? |
| 06:34.46 | slightlyrandom | Ponies are the new kittens |
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| 07:14.41 | Nash|327 | lies |
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| 07:16.57 | Hobrow|Dhugal | morning everyone |
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| 07:35.02 | Hobrow|Dhugal | anyone here with some AI knowlege? |
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| 08:05.38 | XenoX101 | aghh |
| 08:05.52 | XenoX101 | an action definiton that was working just fine before |
| 08:05.55 | XenoX101 | is now broken :( |
| 08:09.10 | XenoX101 | oh wait |
| 08:09.13 | XenoX101 | no it works fine, hm |
| 08:11.09 | XenoX101 | YES |
| 08:11.10 | XenoX101 | OMG |
| 08:11.13 | XenoX101 | I FORGOT ONE VARIABLE |
| 08:11.16 | XenoX101 | ONE FUCKING VARIABLE |
| 08:11.19 | XenoX101 | now it works perfect |
| 08:12.02 | XenoX101 | "UpgradeSuffix" -.- |
| 08:13.54 | Hobrow|Dhugal | xD |
| 08:14.11 | Nash|327 | all it takes |
| 08:14.15 | Nash|327 | 1 tiny mistake |
| 08:15.10 | XenoX101 | I just spent like |
| 08:15.13 | XenoX101 | an hour looking |
| 08:15.17 | XenoX101 | thinking there was some critical blunder |
| 08:15.28 | XenoX101 | going WHY ISNT THIS WORKING OMG |
| 08:15.31 | Nash|327 | layout files are worse though |
| 08:15.43 | Nash|327 | 1 character off and game crashes or layout doesn't load at all |
| 08:15.49 | XenoX101 | damn |
| 08:15.51 | XenoX101 | thats rough |
| 08:15.54 | Nash|327 | and no compiler to show errors |
| 08:16.04 | XenoX101 | mine was |
| 08:16.12 | XenoX101 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:16.19 | XenoX101 | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:16.24 | XenoX101 | that was all I needed to change |
| 08:16.31 | XenoX101 | -.- |
| 08:16.50 | Nash|327 | D; |
| 08:18.01 | Mexa_ | hmm |
| 08:18.27 | Nash|327 | Programming sucks if you're not good at details, thinking like a computer and making connections :G |
| 08:18.45 | Nash|327 | Fortunately, I am a robot. |
| 08:18.57 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 08:19.01 | Mexa_ | A badly programmed robot... |
| 08:19.04 | XenoX101 | I've never made this mistake yet though |
| 08:19.04 | Mexa_ | trolololo |
| 08:19.06 | XenoX101 | in all the rest of my code |
| 08:19.07 | XenoX101 | so |
| 08:19.15 | XenoX101 | looking up still! ;p |
| 08:19.28 | Nash|327 | Mexagreek |
| 08:19.40 | Mexa_ | Nashgeek |
| 08:19.46 | Nash|327 | Test my map or work on your dialog magic |
| 08:19.52 | Mexa_ | I am |
| 08:19.54 | Nash|327 | Instead of trolling D:< |
| 08:19.58 | Nash|327 | BACK TO WORK |
| 08:20.00 | Nash|327 | ZUG ZUG |
| 08:20.14 | Mexa|Zug | zug |
| 08:20.20 | Nash|327 | I watched ponies. |
| 08:20.22 | Nash|327 | D:~~ |
| 08:20.29 | Mexa|Zug | Did you like it? |
| 08:20.50 | Nash|327 | Well I watched the pilot. |
| 08:21.06 | Mexa|Zug | The rider? |
| 08:21.20 | Nash|327 | It's alright for a kid's show. |
| 08:21.32 | Mexa|Zug | Oh, you mean the pilot episode |
| 08:21.34 | Nash|327 | I prefer more dark and gritty stuff. |
| 08:21.41 | Nash|327 | With moral dilemmas. |
| 08:21.55 | Mexa|Zug | Quiet frankly, ep1 and 2 are not that good compared to the others |
| 08:22.24 | Mexa|Zug | There's alot of moral dilemmas in the other shows |
| 08:22.35 | JademusSreg | Time for sleep. |
| 08:22.36 | Mexa|Zug | *episode |
| 08:22.38 | Mexa|Zug | ss |
| 08:22.40 | JademusSreg | Later. |
| 08:22.50 | Mexa|Zug | JAdemus, you weren't even saying you were here for a starter D_ |
| 08:23.03 | Nash|327 | JADELIES |
| 08:23.26 | Nash|327 | Jade is the new Mexa. |
| 08:23.43 | Nash|327 | Always "going to sleep, seriously". |
| 08:24.13 | Mexa|Zug | We're just in denial |
| 08:24.20 | Nash|327 | I tend to just go to sleep. |
| 08:24.23 | Mexa|Zug | Except for the fact that Jademus there seems to go |
| 08:24.28 | Nash|327 | Rather than stating it. |
| 08:24.56 | Mexa|Zug | But then I don't know whether you are here or not :G Ze neos. |
| 08:25.04 | Mexa|Zug | *oh noes* |
| 08:25.09 | Nash|327 | Especially when I get tired suddenly and just "need to rest for a moment". |
| 08:25.34 | Mexa|Zug | I need to get back in the kitchen right now tho :v |
| 08:26.30 | Nash|327 | I made some culinary abomination before. |
| 08:27.20 | Nash|327 | Some 8-10 hours ago? |
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| 08:37.33 | slightlyrandom | MLP has moral dilemmas? |
| 08:37.45 | slightlyrandom | Well, it sort of deals with moral... issues |
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| 08:38.33 | Nash|327 | I doubt anyone dies. |
| 08:39.19 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, that's pretty much correc |
| 08:39.20 | slightlyrandom | t |
| 08:39.27 | slightlyrandom | Seen Death Note ? |
| 08:40.04 | Nash|327 | Anime? |
| 08:40.15 | Nash|327 | Because I fucking hate anime. |
| 08:40.16 | slightlyrandom | aye |
| 08:40.20 | slightlyrandom | Oh, come on now |
| 08:40.26 | Mexa_ | ish net |
| 08:41.02 | Nash|327 | Bring back book burnings. |
| 08:41.08 | Nash|327 | Only, burn all the anime. |
| 08:41.24 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 08:41.27 | slightlyrandom | Go watch Cowboy Bebop |
| 08:41.37 | Nash|327 | Fuck no. |
| 08:41.56 | Nash|327 | It will just make me want to nuke Japan :/ |
| 08:42.24 | slightlyrandom | Watch it with the bloody english voices then, they aren't half bad |
| 08:42.38 | Nash|327 | Still makes me want to nuke Japan. |
| 08:42.57 | Nash|327 | I have an extreme aversion to Asian culture in general. |
| 08:43.37 | slightlyrandom | http://anonymousradioshow.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/japan_weird_shit.jpg |
| 08:43.44 | slightlyrandom | relevant |
| 08:43.54 | Nash|327 | Yeah. |
| 08:44.14 | Nash|327 | And their bullshit honor. |
| 08:44.18 | slightlyrandom | haha, aye |
| 08:44.26 | Nash|327 | And loyalty to your boss above all else! |
| 08:44.32 | slightlyrandom | Reason I suggested Cowboy Bebop is that it isn't very japanese |
| 08:44.44 | slightlyrandom | That is |
| 08:44.49 | Nash|327 | Their misogyny and sexual repression D_D |
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| 08:45.17 | Nash|327 | No wonder they produce all that weird shit. |
| 08:45.24 | slightlyrandom | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=faye+valentine&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=839&bih=461 |
| 08:45.26 | Dresnia | Who does mr nash |
| 08:45.32 | Nash|327 | JAPAN |
| 08:45.38 | slightlyrandom | You might be averse to the lead lady in the thing, then |
| 08:45.41 | Dresnia | The girls are awesome though |
| 08:45.52 | slightlyrandom | (10:44:51) Nash|327: Their misogyny and sexual repression D_D |
| 08:46.05 | Nash|327 | Meh, Asians are ugly. |
| 08:46.30 | Nash|327 | Think my brain isn't programmed to accept their input patterns correctly. |
| 08:47.02 | slightlyrandom | Naw, you just haven't been exposed to enough of em |
| 08:47.17 | Nash|327 | I haven't been during childhood. |
| 08:47.49 | Nash|327 | Which is when facial recognition and such develops. |
| 08:48.10 | Nash|327 | So they look too similar and they're generally ugly to me. |
| 08:48.12 | slightlyrandom | Now, if you want something dark, try Paranoia Agent |
| 08:48.34 | slightlyrandom | Or, Hellsing |
| 08:48.39 | slightlyrandom | Vampires, Guns, Nazis |
| 08:48.49 | slightlyrandom | The trinity of awesome |
| 08:48.51 | Nash|327 | DO NOT WANT |
| 08:48.59 | slightlyrandom | Meh |
| 08:49.07 | Nash|327 | I'd rather watch ponies. |
| 08:49.10 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 08:49.24 | slightlyrandom | Ghost in the Shell ? |
| 08:49.40 | Nash|327 | Say no to anime, kids. |
| 08:49.44 | slightlyrandom | Ugh |
| 08:49.46 | Dresnia | Did someone say... PONIES ? |
| 08:49.53 | Nash|327 | When strangers offer you anime, just say no. |
| 08:50.09 | slightlyrandom | That's like saying no to movies, or books |
| 08:50.27 | Nash|327 | Negative. |
| 08:50.40 | slightlyrandom | Anime is so drat many things |
| 08:51.12 | Nash|327 | And I'm an opinionated and narrow person. |
| 08:51.27 | Nash|327 | I like few things, everything else sucks. |
| 08:51.35 | slightlyrandom | I dare you to watch a bit of Elfen Lied and compare it to something like Kino's Journey |
| 08:51.48 | Nash|327 | ...don't want to. |
| 08:52.47 | Nash|327 | Only good Japanese stuff is MARU VIDEOS! |
| 08:53.36 | Nash|327 | But kittuns are awesome regardless of location. |
| 08:53.41 | slightlyrandom | haha |
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| 08:54.01 | slightlyrandom | I'm sure there's kitten anime |
| 08:54.15 | Nash|327 | Catgirl abominations. |
| 08:54.21 | Nash|327 | And Hello Kitty. |
| 08:54.26 | slightlyrandom | Think I saw something with a cat boy |
| 08:54.35 | Nash|327 | They are an affront to kittunkind. |
| 08:55.01 | Nash|327 | And anyone who makes such garbage will be put up against the wall when the kittun revolution comes. |
| 08:55.12 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 08:55.23 | Nash|327 | mewmew, pewpew |
| 08:55.29 | Nash|327 | Justice has been done. |
| 08:56.13 | Nash|327 | Also, Japanese people eat too much fish. |
| 08:56.17 | slightlyrandom | truth |
| 08:56.18 | Nash|327 | Fish are for kittuns. |
| 08:56.30 | Nash|327 | Stop eating their food. Bastards. |
| 08:58.10 | slightlyrandom | What kind of culture DO you like, then? |
| 08:58.15 | slightlyrandom | Apart from the obvious |
| 08:58.28 | Hobrow|Dhugal | does anyone know if you can have 14 players as well as assigning an AI to player 15? |
| 08:58.38 | slightlyrandom | That should work |
| 08:58.44 | Nash|327 | Suppose I'm just too used to Western stuff. |
| 08:58.49 | Nash|327 | British comedy. |
| 08:58.54 | Nash|327 | American TV. |
| 08:59.19 | Nash|327 | Western RPGs. |
| 09:00.14 | slightlyrandom | Mitchell? Brooker? |
| 09:00.45 | Nash|327 | Wha? |
| 09:00.55 | slightlyrandom | Only really seen half of the Wire and Game of Thrones of recent american stuff |
| 09:01.13 | slightlyrandom | I'd classify those as british comedians |
| 09:01.15 | Nash|327 | I grew up on American TV. |
| 09:01.23 | slightlyrandom | Well, yeah |
| 09:01.24 | Nash|327 | Oh, MONTY PYTHON |
| 09:01.24 | slightlyrandom | MASH |
| 09:01.37 | slightlyrandom | Was always bloody on in the afternoon |
| 09:01.42 | Nash|327 | I learnt English from American TV. |
| 09:01.44 | slightlyrandom | Python is awesome |
| 09:02.21 | Nash|327 | subtitles + speech |
| 09:02.45 | Nash|327 | When you're 5 you can soak up language. |
| 09:02.59 | Nash|327 | Hear stuff, read translation. |
| 09:03.05 | slightlyrandom | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnirrVYg9qI |
| 09:04.44 | Nash|327 | Ah I saw part of that "How TV ruined your life". |
| 09:04.58 | Nash|327 | I didn't recognize myself in it though. |
| 09:05.01 | slightlyrandom | Hehe |
| 09:06.34 | Nash|327 | No huge revelations about other people either. |
| 09:07.21 | Nash|327 | So I guess it's watching it because of presentation or because you're clueless and lack self-insight? |
| 09:07.35 | slightlyrandom | Haha, no I like to watch his rants |
| 09:07.45 | Nash|327 | Yes, presentation. |
| 09:07.48 | slightlyrandom | I admire wordsmiths |
| 09:08.04 | slightlyrandom | And, well, he sometimes brings up topics that are worth thinking about |
| 09:08.06 | slightlyrandom | So there is that |
| 09:08.45 | Nash|327 | I found most of it to be old news. |
| 09:08.52 | Nash|327 | Presentation was good though. |
| 09:09.09 | slightlyrandom | I don't watch television, so I used Screenwipe, Newswipe and How TV Ruined your Life as a way to gauge how shit television is |
| 09:09.34 | Nash|327 | I watch internets. |
| 09:09.49 | Nash|327 | Don't have a TV. |
| 09:10.03 | slightlyrandom | I knew most of it, sure, but he still brought up stuff I had no clue was going on, and exposes techniques and tricks that makes the deceit toe-curlingly obvious |
| 09:10.42 | slightlyrandom | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qPtFe2hgOk |
| 09:10.50 | Nash|327 | I'm cynical enough, I don't need people pointing out how crappy stuff is. |
| 09:10.55 | slightlyrandom | On violence and the school shootings |
| 09:11.04 | slightlyrandom | Eh, various school shootings |
| 09:11.53 | slightlyrandom | I think |
| 09:12.00 | slightlyrandom | That was what I searched for to find it, anyway |
| 09:15.02 | Nash|327 | Well I watched some of it. |
| 09:15.06 | Nash|327 | Still, old news. |
| 09:15.09 | slightlyrandom | Aye |
| 09:15.14 | slightlyrandom | The good bit was the end |
| 09:15.19 | slightlyrandom | If this is the thing I think it is |
| 09:16.04 | slightlyrandom | Cross cuts between a some-psychologist-bloke and the news |
| 09:16.11 | Nash|327 | That the media are sensationalist hyenas that spew garbage is not really an epiphany. |
| 09:16.13 | slightlyrandom | psychiatrist, maybe |
| 09:16.47 | Nash|327 | They also present you with a view of the world that serves their and their sponsors' interests. |
| 09:17.06 | Nash|327 | Privately owned propaganda machines. |
| 09:17.35 | slightlyrandom | Yes, yes |
| 09:17.52 | slightlyrandom | I am not saying it's ground-breaking new research being done here |
| 09:18.44 | Nash|327 | Just saying it's sensationalist is not enough, though. |
| 09:19.57 | Nash|327 | If there was a political perspective, how any oppressive society must control the flow of information and how a very few number of people effectively control people's view of the world, and manipulate them for political agendas... |
| 09:20.20 | Nash|327 | Well, that would be more interesting. |
| 09:20.52 | slightlyrandom | Weeeeell |
| 09:20.54 | Nash|327 | But who will do that kind of show, and which of those privately owned propaganda machines would broadcast it? |
| 09:21.12 | slightlyrandom | How TV Ruined Your Life is a step in the right direction? |
| 09:21.29 | slightlyrandom | (Also, the BBC isn't really privately owned) |
| 09:22.03 | Nash|327 | Well, no, but the state serves the interests of the capitalist system. |
| 09:22.59 | slightlyrandom | That's largely because the capitalist system is what we're currently counting on for what stability, prosperity and productivity we have, though? |
| 09:23.32 | slightlyrandom | States don't stay states if they go around causing upheavals |
| 09:23.39 | Nash|327 | No, it's because a power duality cannot exist for any longer period of time. |
| 09:23.39 | slightlyrandom | Internally, of course |
| 09:24.05 | Nash|327 | Any state without the support of the de facto ruling class is doomed. |
| 09:24.23 | Nash|327 | Unless there's a revolution in support of it. |
| 09:24.45 | Nash|327 | But with a revolution it'll still be doomed. |
| 09:25.37 | slightlyrandom | Aren't most people largely in support of their state, though? |
| 09:25.42 | slightlyrandom | I mean, we all hate politicians |
| 09:26.10 | slightlyrandom | and bureaucracy |
| 09:26.11 | Nash|327 | Well, they are controlled by the same people whose interests that state serves. |
| 09:26.28 | slightlyrandom | You're simplifying a bit there, fella |
| 09:26.43 | Nash|327 | Power is not putting paper in boxes and seeing what name was most frequent. |
| 09:26.55 | slightlyrandom | Can't just blame 500 people and call it quits |
| 09:27.27 | slightlyrandom | We have, with minor exceptions, exactly the kind of society most people want |
| 09:27.40 | slightlyrandom | Or close enough that they don't care |
| 09:27.50 | Nash|327 | And why do they want it, or don't care? |
| 09:28.08 | slightlyrandom | Because they have relative wealth, comfort, stability and security |
| 09:28.12 | Nash|327 | Because OOH SHINIES |
| 09:28.26 | slightlyrandom | They're leading good lives, by most any standard |
| 09:28.27 | Nash|327 | BUY A BIGGER TV, IT'S WHAT YOU NEED! |
| 09:28.57 | Nash|327 | People are products of society. |
| 09:29.00 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, I'm not defending our society, I'd like to see it fuck off and die |
| 09:29.22 | slightlyrandom | But still, you gotta admit, we aren't living in rwanda |
| 09:29.30 | slightlyrandom | (apologies if you are) |
| 09:29.50 | Nash|327 | Comparing something to something worse does not make it better. |
| 09:29.55 | slightlyrandom | Yes it does |
| 09:30.02 | slightlyrandom | It makes it not as bad, at least |
| 09:30.34 | Nash|327 | I don't use a relative scale. |
| 09:30.39 | slightlyrandom | Ah |
| 09:30.51 | slightlyrandom | I wouldn't either, if we were genuinely suffering |
| 09:31.11 | Nash|327 | My scale is absolute. |
| 09:31.20 | slightlyrandom | Your scale is retarded |
| 09:31.23 | Nash|327 | And shit is still shit. |
| 09:31.31 | Nash|327 | Even if there's worse shit. |
| 09:31.47 | slightlyrandom | There's shit, and then there's food you sort of don't like the flavour of |
| 09:32.27 | Nash|327 | Nope, just shit and worse shit. |
| 09:32.43 | slightlyrandom | If those are the absolutes |
| 09:32.53 | slightlyrandom | If the scale goes from shit to worse shit |
| 09:33.16 | slightlyrandom | Where's the improvement |
| 09:33.17 | Nash|327 | The scale goes higher. |
| 09:33.23 | slightlyrandom | Right, so it isn't absolute ? |
| 09:33.25 | slightlyrandom | (Sorry) |
| 09:33.33 | Nash|327 | Sure it is. |
| 09:33.55 | Nash|327 | It goes from terrible fucking misery to perfection. |
| 09:34.06 | Mexa|Zug | nothing is perfect |
| 09:34.11 | Nash|327 | It's just that we're stuck at "shit". |
| 09:34.20 | slightlyrandom | That's a bloody relative scale! |
| 09:34.33 | Nash|327 | ... |
| 09:34.37 | slightlyrandom | Ugh, can't have an absolute scale |
| 09:34.41 | slightlyrandom | oxymoron |
| 09:35.24 | Nash|327 | You can. |
| 09:35.57 | Nash|327 | On a scale of 0-1, it depends if you define 1 as a theoretical, best case scenario. |
| 09:36.09 | Nash|327 | or as best available at the time. |
| 09:37.12 | Mexa|Zug | derp |
| 09:37.26 | Nash|327 | It's the same when I rate movies or whatever. |
| 09:37.34 | Nash|327 | I don't give high scores. |
| 09:37.41 | Mexa|Zug | You give them poo or pee |
| 09:37.53 | Nash|327 | Because a 10 is not the best movie I've ever seen. |
| 09:38.02 | Nash|327 | It's the best movie I would WANT to see. |
| 09:38.32 | Mexa|Zug | In other news, it will never exist |
| 09:38.38 | Mexa|Zug | And you will never see it |
| 09:38.45 | Nash|327 | Indeed. |
| 09:38.50 | Nash|327 | But such is my scale. |
| 09:39.06 | Mexa|Zug | +- infinity huh |
| 09:39.41 | Nash|327 | No, depends on the rating system's scale. |
| 09:40.08 | Mexa|Zug | And they're only numbers |
| 09:40.15 | Mexa|Zug | Which can be translated |
| 09:40.24 | Nash|327 | A 10 on IMDB would be like the perfect movie for me with everything I ever wanted. |
| 09:41.57 | Nash|327 | Some people would vote 10, but then something much better comes along. |
| 09:42.02 | Nash|327 | What is that then? 12? |
| 09:42.29 | Nash|327 | A relative scale fails when your frame of reference changes. |
| 09:44.04 | Nash|327 | An absolute scale would allow you to be more consistent. |
| 09:45.18 | Nash|327 | But I'm a robot, so go figure. |
| 09:47.49 | IDEATH | I bet there's a way to make a map an editor |
| 09:48.20 | Dresnia | where is this stupid setting again |
| 09:48.24 | Dresnia | that skype mutes other sounds |
| 09:48.40 | Dresnia | GOT IT |
| 09:48.46 | Nash|327 | IDEATH: sure there is |
| 09:49.09 | Nash|327 | Would be a simplistic, limited one. |
| 09:49.30 | Nash|327 | But at least stuff like placing units is doable. |
| 09:49.39 | IDEATH | i dont think it HAS to be |
| 09:49.45 | IDEATH | i think i'll make it |
| 09:50.31 | IDEATH | I don't know how i'll have terraforming tools in-game but i'm sure there's a way |
| 09:51.01 | Nash|327 | Yo dawg... |
| 09:51.17 | IDEATH | ? |
| 09:51.22 | Nash|327 | We heard you like maps, so we put a map in your map so you can map while you map. |
| 09:51.41 | IDEATH | lol? |
| 09:51.45 | IDEATH | wtf? |
| 09:52.13 | Mexa|Zug | Dresnia, that is a windows feature, not skype. |
| 09:52.20 | IDEATH | are you serious? cause that'd be AWESOME |
| 09:52.47 | Nash|327 | http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/xzibit-yo-dawg |
| 09:55.03 | Nash|327 | For future reference. |
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| 10:02.45 | IDEATH | LOL |
| 10:02.56 | IDEATH | YOU FUNNEH DAWG! |
| 10:07.58 | IDEATH | Hey, how do you get a beacon to follow under a certain unit? like in SOTIS. |
| 10:09.54 | slightlyrandom | MAGIC! |
| 10:11.07 | IDEATH | lol |
| 10:11.12 | IDEATH | wow |
| 10:11.17 | IDEATH | i love the name |
| 10:11.25 | IDEATH | and a PERFECT comment |
| 10:11.32 | IDEATH | WITH the name! |
| 10:11.45 | IDEATH | haha! Genius! |
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| 10:16.53 | Mexa|Zug | test |
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| 10:17.32 | slightlyrandom | The answer is always magic |
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| 10:18.24 | Mexa_ | test |
| 10:18.40 | Nash|327 | Indeed. Magic. |
| 10:19.03 | slightlyrandom | I did something similar once, gave units a behavior, and all units with said behavior got some graphic under em |
| 10:19.04 | DarkRevenant | ugh |
| 10:19.08 | DarkRevenant | trying to |
| 10:19.13 | DarkRevenant | wipe system of drivers is |
| 10:19.16 | DarkRevenant | supremely annoying |
| 10:19.28 | Mexa_ | I'd do a fresh install instead |
| 10:19.36 | DarkRevenant | i'm only changing vid cards |
| 10:19.50 | Mexa_ | hmm |
| 10:19.56 | DarkRevenant | i won't reinstall windows for something so trivial as a hardware upgrade |
| 10:20.04 | IDEATH | slightlyrandom: How did you do it exactly? |
| 10:20.06 | slightlyrandom | hahahahahaha |
| 10:20.12 | slightlyrandom | DarkRevenant: YOU WILL LEARN! |
| 10:20.21 | slightlyrandom | Oh yes, soon you will understand the folly of your ways |
| 10:20.24 | DarkRevenant | i do it correctly |
| 10:20.27 | DarkRevenant | which is why |
| 10:20.33 | Mexa_ | Reinstalling graphics drivers should be pretty straightforward :v |
| 10:20.36 | slightlyrandom | ...it isnt working |
| 10:20.39 | DarkRevenant | i want every single trace of the ATi drivers to be gone |
| 10:20.43 | DarkRevenant | right now |
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| 10:20.50 | DarkRevenant | i did the |
| 10:20.53 | DarkRevenant | big |
| 10:20.57 | slightlyrandom | You, too, need black magic |
| 10:20.59 | DarkRevenant | LOL UNINSTALL EVERYTHING option it comes with |
| 10:21.01 | Mexa_ | Substituting with a Nvidia card? |
| 10:21.03 | DarkRevenant | and herp derp |
| 10:21.07 | DarkRevenant | now i STILL have |
| 10:21.08 | slightlyrandom | IDEATH: I'm not certain I remember exactly |
| 10:21.09 | DarkRevenant | CCC |
| 10:21.14 | Nash|327 | get a driver cleaner |
| 10:21.17 | DarkRevenant | lol |
| 10:21.24 | DarkRevenant | i dont know of any that havent been discontinued |
| 10:21.30 | DarkRevenant | even guru3ds was taken down |
| 10:21.47 | IDEATH | slightlyrandom: ok that's cool i just want a grphic under my heros |
| 10:22.11 | Nash|327 | There are commercial ones. |
| 10:22.28 | DarkRevenant | dont have time to pirate some shit right now |
| 10:22.52 | DarkRevenant | and outright buying is no option |
| 10:23.06 | DarkRevenant | the upgrades are using up every penny of the budget |
| 10:23.13 | Nash|327 | Then I guess you are le screwed. |
| 10:23.20 | slightlyrandom | IDEATH: Ah, right |
| 10:23.31 | slightlyrandom | IDEATH: What you do is, you create an actor with the graphic you want |
| 10:23.45 | Nash|327 | ModelAddition |
| 10:23.48 | DarkRevenant | drivercleaner.net seems to have |
| 10:23.51 | DarkRevenant | vanished from the interwebs |
| 10:23.56 | IDEATH | slightlyrandom: what do you mean? |
| 10:23.58 | slightlyrandom | IDEATH: Then you specify on the actor that Unit.(GetsBehavior).Create |
| 10:24.17 | slightlyrandom | You need an actor with the graphic, responsible for applying it under your hero |
| 10:24.17 | DarkRevenant | i basically have to replace everything |
| 10:24.22 | IDEATH | slightlyrandom: with events right? |
| 10:24.24 | DarkRevenant | so i have dual GTX 460 1gb cards |
| 10:24.25 | slightlyrandom | Yeah |
| 10:24.28 | Nash|327 | Behavior.OMGBEACON.On |
| 10:24.34 | slightlyrandom | What Nash|327 said |
| 10:24.34 | DarkRevenant | which i got at tremendous deals for about $130 each |
| 10:24.38 | DarkRevenant | but |
| 10:24.43 | slightlyrandom | (I haven't mapped in a year) |
| 10:24.46 | IDEATH | lol really? |
| 10:24.56 | DarkRevenant | since my Athlon X2 2.8ghz is a gigantic bottleneck i have to replace EVERYTHING ELSE TOO |
| 10:24.57 | IDEATH | REALLY? |
| 10:25.01 | slightlyrandom | Anyway, now you just need to make sure your ability or whatever applies the behavior to the unit |
| 10:25.04 | IDEATH | i do to! but it sucks... |
| 10:25.47 | slightlyrandom | Do the same for an aura buff thing under units affected, if you want that too |
| 10:25.53 | DarkRevenant | im getting duals to replace the HD 4870 |
| 10:25.55 | DarkRevenant | 512 |
| 10:26.02 | IDEATH | i have an NVIDEA Geforce GTX 460 1024gb |
| 10:26.07 | DarkRevenant | dual 460s (if you have the 1GB non-SE versions) |
| 10:26.11 | IDEATH | mb srry |
| 10:26.15 | DarkRevenant | are in the same league as GTX 580 |
| 10:26.23 | DarkRevenant | but i got it for about $200 less |
| 10:26.23 | IDEATH | wow nice! |
| 10:26.48 | DarkRevenant | my cpu is pretty arse at the moment |
| 10:27.01 | DarkRevenant | my PSU was 600W which is not good enough for two of these cards |
| 10:27.07 | DarkRevenant | and my motherboard is crossfire-only |
| 10:27.24 | DarkRevenant | while i wait for enough money to updgrade to an intel/nvid setup |
| 10:27.28 | DarkRevenant | i will use a hack to |
| 10:27.31 | IDEATH | yeah... |
| 10:27.33 | DarkRevenant | do sli on this motherboard |
| 10:27.35 | Mexa_ | You sure like to |
| 10:27.44 | DarkRevenant | but i still had to replace the PSU with a 750W corsair |
| 10:27.44 | Mexa_ | talk in very separate lines |
| 10:27.50 | DarkRevenant | and get the two cards |
| 10:28.10 | DarkRevenant | you |
| 10:28.12 | DarkRevenant | aint |
| 10:28.13 | DarkRevenant | seen |
| 10:28.15 | DarkRevenant | nothing |
| 10:28.16 | DarkRevenant | yet |
| 10:28.18 | DarkRevenant | boy |
| 10:28.33 | Mexa_ | Oh, speak like that and the flooding system will kick in soon. |
| 10:28.33 | IDEATH | slightlyrandom: im not sure how to apply the event and behavior to my hero in order to have it appear under them |
| 10:28.47 | IDEATH | lol |
| 10:28.48 | slightlyrandom | You apply the behavior as a buff to the hero |
| 10:29.01 | slightlyrandom | And the event on the graphics actor will kick in and do all the work for you |
| 10:29.17 | IDEATH | hmm... i think i can do that |
| 10:29.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster Slepee (~Slepee@d40a563b.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 10:29.24 | IDEATH | whats the grapics actor? |
| 10:29.30 | IDEATH | the model? |
| 10:29.31 | slightlyrandom | You need to make that |
| 10:29.33 | slightlyrandom | No |
| 10:29.50 | slightlyrandom | The actor is what calls the model, the sounds, and knows when to call em |
| 10:30.01 | DarkRevenant | oh what |
| 10:30.08 | slightlyrandom | It's a seperate data type |
| 10:30.23 | DarkRevenant | there is literally no official or unofficial tool for this stuff anymore |
| 10:30.31 | DarkRevenant | man shit's changed in the past 2 years |
| 10:30.38 | IDEATH | yeah haha |
| 10:30.44 | DarkRevenant | i literally |
| 10:30.47 | DarkRevenant | have to shell out $10 |
| 10:30.54 | DarkRevenant | when i have a balance of about negative $300 |
| 10:31.07 | DarkRevenant | (not literally, but i need more than i can pay for at the moment) |
| 10:31.40 | DarkRevenant | piratebay, dont fail me now |
| 10:31.58 | Mexa_ | Piratebay have been ddosed much lately |
| 10:32.18 | Xan | its working now |
| 10:32.44 | DarkRevenant | they have magnet links |
| 10:32.46 | Mexa_ | I'd suggest kickasstorrents instead. |
| 10:32.47 | DarkRevenant | it doesnt matter much |
| 10:33.04 | DarkRevenant | Driver Genius PRO |
| 10:33.06 | DarkRevenant | sounds legit |
| 10:33.15 | Mexa_ | lol |
| 10:33.24 | DarkRevenant | i like how |
| 10:33.32 | DarkRevenant | there are only ever torrents of PC Gamer UK |
| 10:33.37 | DarkRevenant | there are none |
| 10:33.40 | DarkRevenant | absolutely zero |
| 10:33.42 | DarkRevenant | US editions |
| 10:33.44 | DarkRevenant | online |
| 10:33.54 | DarkRevenant | of any recent date |
| 10:34.17 | Mexa_ | The site is hosted in sweden, which is widely known in europe, what did you expect? |
| 10:34.47 | DarkRevenant | no |
| 10:34.47 | Mexa_ | The site anyways |
| 10:34.48 | DarkRevenant | i mean |
| 10:34.50 | DarkRevenant | on the entire internet |
| 10:35.00 | Mexa_ | okay |
| 10:35.16 | DarkRevenant | PC Gamer July 2011 UK appeared on June 28 |
| 10:35.23 | DarkRevenant | and was released about the same day |
| 10:35.33 | DarkRevenant | PC Game July 2011 US is not on the internet |
| 10:35.42 | DarkRevenant | but has been released for over a month |
| 10:35.43 | DarkRevenant | lol |
| 10:35.52 | DarkRevenant | US hackers are lazy |
| 10:35.54 | Mexa_ | What is that anyways? |
| 10:35.56 | DarkRevenant | or are just all black hats |
| 10:36.01 | DarkRevenant | magazine |
| 10:36.36 | Mexa_ | digital magazine? |
| 10:36.39 | DarkRevenant | print |
| 10:36.44 | Mexa_ | Or someone scanned it in? |
| 10:37.19 | Mexa_ | Never seen that being popular |
| 10:37.25 | Mexa_ | Or popular enough the effort |
| 10:38.14 | Nash|327 | BACK TO WORK |
| 10:40.57 | Nash|327 | I need to "rest a moment" |
| 10:46.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dresnia (~Miranda@94-225-205-79.access.telenet.be) |
| 10:46.51 | XenoX101 | wtf |
| 10:46.54 | XenoX101 | somethings wrong |
| 10:46.57 | XenoX101 | why is this working perfectly |
| 10:47.02 | XenoX101 | on the first go |
| 10:47.02 | Dresnia | your face is wrong |
| 10:52.40 | Slepee | altough it may be hard to believe, that is XenoX's actual face. It's not wrong, it's just ... wrong. |
| 10:53.01 | Slepee | They mostly come at night, - mostly. |
| 10:55.49 | Xan | oh hello |
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| 10:59.38 | Slepee | Hi Xan. |
| 11:00.29 | Xan | how goes the concepting? |
| 11:01.21 | Slepee | I have an idea. |
| 11:01.41 | Slepee | Putting it on paper is proving hard though. |
| 11:01.57 | Xan | what the idea? |
| 11:03.04 | Slepee | Well, it's basic really... three units in close combat: A Marine, a Hydralisk and a Dark Templar. |
| 11:03.39 | Xan | could look cool |
| 11:03.41 | Slepee | The Templar is impaling the marine with his Psi-blade at the same time as the Marine is shooting the Hydralisk in the skull |
| 11:04.01 | Slepee | meanwhile the hydralisk is eviscerating the Templar |
| 11:04.09 | Xan | rock paper scissors :P |
| 11:04.18 | Xan | pretty cool |
| 11:04.20 | Slepee | yeah, because it has to be kind of like that |
| 11:04.40 | Slepee | I mean if it was only two forces vs each other... was easier |
| 11:04.48 | Xan | yeah |
| 11:04.50 | Slepee | but there are 3, and they are all equally engaged |
| 11:04.59 | Xan | do you use a tablet? |
| 11:05.02 | Xan | or paper |
| 11:05.07 | Slepee | paper |
| 11:05.14 | Xan | okay |
| 11:05.14 | Slepee | then scanning and PS |
| 11:06.38 | Dresnia | Anyone know a good benchmark I could check my pc in ? |
| 11:06.50 | Xan | graphically? |
| 11:07.05 | Dresnia | Total ? |
| 11:07.38 | Slepee | I also though about doing a sort of logo, where you have like the Recycling Sign, that shows a triangle with bent arrows. But in each corner there would be a portrait from each race, and instead of arrows it would be claws, guns and energi blades pointing instead. :) |
| 11:08.03 | Dresnia | Sounds cool Slepee. |
| 11:08.09 | Dresnia | btw is Mafia 2 any good ? |
| 11:08.13 | Dresnia | I got a steam code with the pc |
| 11:08.21 | Dresnia | but not sure if I wanna install steam aids already |
| 11:08.35 | Xan | sounds cool also |
| 11:08.45 | Xan | steam is pretty good dresnia |
| 11:08.51 | Xan | well at least it isnt bad |
| 11:08.54 | Dresnia | It's 'ok' |
| 11:09.01 | Dresnia | But I hate stuff like Steam and Itunes |
| 11:09.07 | Dresnia | they boot up without beeing asked and stuff. |
| 11:09.10 | Xan | itunes is much worse |
| 11:09.12 | Slepee | Dresnia, I have not tried Mafia 2 at all. But I have a friend who is a hardcore gamer. He enjoys Mafia 2 a lot. |
| 11:09.27 | Xan | steam doesn't start without asking |
| 11:09.35 | Dresnia | Oh ok |
| 11:09.36 | Xan | or well, doesnt start without you starting it |
| 11:09.41 | Slepee | -- this guy has more water cooling on his PC than the local power plant |
| 11:09.53 | Xan | unless you have the "start on bootup" checked |
| 11:09.53 | Dresnia | water cooling is for tools |
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| 11:10.03 | Dresnia | it means you can't afford a real pc and need too overlock lower shit |
| 11:10.30 | Xan | hehe |
| 11:10.35 | Slepee | Well, either that .. or you want a PC that's about 4 to 5 times more powerful than you need to play the most recent games. |
| 11:10.51 | Xan | why do you need better if you can play everything on ultra? |
| 11:10.55 | Xan | with good fps |
| 11:10.56 | Dresnia | I don't see any game in the future taking my sandbridge (4x2)x4.7ghz cpu too its max really |
| 11:11.14 | Xan | Dresnia on an i7, never gotten past 30% usage on any game yet |
| 11:11.24 | Dresnia | If I hit 59fps I just upgrade |
| 11:11.26 | Xan | so yeah |
| 11:11.26 | Xan | :PO |
| 11:11.28 | Slepee | In his defense, he usually owns quite a lot in First Person Shooters. |
| 11:11.59 | Dresnia | I've did 1 FPS for real once |
| 11:12.01 | Dresnia | MoH:AA |
| 11:12.02 | Slepee | I have started using Folding@Home even while gaming. |
| 11:12.07 | Slepee | Cuz I forget to disable it |
| 11:12.08 | Dresnia | was nr 3 benelux |
| 11:12.12 | Dresnia | but got bored |
| 11:12.22 | Dresnia | anyways I gonna plug in my 'old' pc aka from march 2011 |
| 11:12.26 | Dresnia | guy comming over too buy it |
| 11:12.38 | Dresnia | so yeh cya later guys =) |
| 11:12.40 | Slepee | old piece of crap |
| 11:12.44 | Dresnia | hahaha |
| 11:12.44 | Dresnia | :p |
| 11:12.45 | Slepee | can probably use it for Linux. |
| 11:12.47 | Slepee | xD |
| 11:12.52 | Dresnia | it's a hexacore 2.8ghz |
| 11:12.55 | Dresnia | 1055t |
| 11:13.04 | Dresnia | with a 2gig gpu and 5gig ddr3 |
| 11:13.07 | Dresnia | it's still ok I guess |
| 11:13.08 | Dresnia | but yeh cu |
| 11:13.08 | Xan | hexacore?? |
| 11:13.11 | Dresnia | 6core |
| 11:13.14 | Dresnia | amd x6 phenom 2 |
| 11:13.27 | Dresnia | whatever, I disliked it sorta |
| 11:13.28 | Dresnia | cya |
| 11:13.41 | Slepee | good luck with the sale |
| 11:13.42 | Xan | wtf is wrong with that |
| 11:13.45 | Xan | why did yuou buy new |
| 11:13.45 | Xan | ^^ |
| 11:13.46 | Slepee | used computer salesman |
| 11:13.55 | Dresnia | I just wanted OVERKILL |
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| 11:14.01 | Dresnia | so I got my 470GTX and shit |
| 11:14.05 | Xan | 570 |
| 11:14.10 | Xan | even |
| 11:14.14 | Dresnia | yea |
| 11:14.15 | Dresnia | rofl |
| 11:14.16 | Dresnia | cyaaaa |
| 11:17.30 | XorioZ | morning. or something like that :) |
| 11:17.38 | Xan | good afternoon |
| 11:42.52 | Slepee | lol - this actually rules - http://kotaku.com/5807272/one-of-the-few-ways-you-could-genuinely-improve-half+life |
| 11:44.46 | Slepee | Kind of crazy what a little extra anmiation on the character can do. |
| 11:51.37 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 11:51.43 | XenoX101 | I have a really tricky question |
| 11:52.10 | XenoX101 | actually.. nvm |
| 11:58.06 | Slepee | Come on, don't be shy. |
| 11:58.41 | Slepee | Are you afraid to waste the Internets time? xD |
| 12:01.36 | slightlyrandom | WE DEMAND BEING ENTERTAINED! |
| 12:01.41 | slightlyrandom | ASK US QUESTIOOOOONS |
| 12:13.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster Rnuomer (~chatzilla@cpe-67-240-129-41.rochester.res.rr.com) |
| 12:14.15 | Rnuomer | hi =:D |
| 12:16.41 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dresnia (~Miranda@94-225-205-79.access.telenet.be) |
| 12:18.10 | Rnuomer | hi =:D |
| 12:21.44 | Dresnia | Hello. |
| 12:22.31 | Rnuomer | someone I followed on twitter a while ago seems to have been taken over by a spambot D:= |
| 12:22.37 | Dresnia | How come if you buy an extra 1TB |
| 12:22.45 | Dresnia | and you check windows it's only 931G |
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| 12:28.17 | slightlyrandom | hehe |
| 12:28.26 | slightlyrandom | HD makes count bytes funny |
| 12:28.29 | slightlyrandom | makers* |
| 12:28.40 | slightlyrandom | 1024Bytes = 1 KB |
| 12:28.48 | slightlyrandom | But, they count em in thousands instead |
| 12:29.26 | slightlyrandom | (goes all the way up, 1024KB = 1 MB, etc.) |
| 12:29.39 | Hobrow|Dhugal | how do you hide the game Ui without hiding timer windows? :/ |
| 12:29.55 | slightlyrandom | There was a mod thingie for it |
| 12:30.06 | slightlyrandom | For hiding individual elements |
| 12:30.25 | slightlyrandom | Believe Helral made it, search the site for it |
| 12:30.40 | slightlyrandom | Or was it Hati? |
| 12:30.54 | Hobrow|Dhugal | k ill have a look |
| 12:31.25 | slightlyrandom | Also |
| 12:31.35 | slightlyrandom | Some seem to suggest making your own timer windows |
| 12:31.40 | slightlyrandom | And turning on cinematic mode |
| 12:33.26 | Hobrow|Dhugal | ... i made my own timer window, turning on cinematic mode hides it :/ |
| 12:34.21 | slightlyrandom | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/11583-hiding-game-ui-then-showing-timer-windows/ |
| 12:34.24 | slightlyrandom | Works for those guys |
| 12:36.50 | Hobrow|Dhugal | ok, apparently i didnt make my own timer ~.~ |
| 12:37.07 | slightlyrandom | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/import/layout/ |
| 12:37.18 | slightlyrandom | That helps you hide specific elements |
| 12:37.27 | slightlyrandom | Might be faster to just hide it all and make custom timers, though |
| 12:43.34 | *** join/#sc2mapster Agouti (~Agouti@60-240-2-243.tpgi.com.au) |
| 12:51.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster mapman_ (4c4059eb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.64.89.235) |
| 12:51.21 | mapman_ | mornin |
| 12:53.09 | Rnuomer | hi =:D |
| 12:53.25 | mapman_ | :D |
| 12:53.36 | Agouti | sup |
| 12:53.59 | Rnuomer | =:D* |
| 12:54.24 | mapman_ | hey |
| 12:54.34 | mapman_ | its rare that there are people at this time |
| 12:54.46 | mapman_ | im usually forever alone in the morning |
| 12:54.47 | Agouti | depends on your timezone :) |
| 12:54.50 | Rnuomer | aww |
| 12:54.56 | Agouti | wait |
| 12:54.59 | Rnuomer | well is here now <3 |
| 12:55.02 | Agouti | forever alone at certain times? |
| 12:55.06 | Agouti | isn't that an oxymoron? |
| 12:55.13 | mapman_ | yea |
| 12:55.20 | Agouti | though |
| 12:55.28 | Agouti | it kinda works |
| 12:55.34 | Agouti | always blah at this time |
| 12:55.38 | mapman_ | not if you use foever alone as a state |
| 12:55.47 | Agouti | true enough |
| 12:55.50 | Rnuomer | bunnyhugs mapman_ forever <3 |
| 12:55.58 | Agouti | I think I'll have to use triggers for this :< |
| 12:56.11 | Agouti | I always feel dirty when I have to resort to triggers for something |
| 12:56.22 | Agouti | but there doesn't appear to be a validator which can compare unit facing |
| 12:56.32 | Agouti | (trying to do a backstab ability) |
| 12:56.41 | Rnuomer | you could try some convoluted work around |
| 12:56.49 | Rnuomer | with |
| 12:56.51 | Rnuomer | uhm |
| 12:56.53 | Rnuomer | idk |
| 12:56.54 | Agouti | oh |
| 12:57.11 | Agouti | it could apply a behaviour, which a search arc to the target |
| 12:57.16 | Agouti | with* |
| 12:57.24 | Rnuomer | see |
| 12:57.30 | Agouti | and a marker so if the attacking unit isn't in that arc |
| 12:57.30 | Rnuomer | no need for icky triggers |
| 12:57.36 | Rnuomer | you're welcome |
| 12:57.45 | Agouti | instead we have *doooooo* icky data workarounds |
| 12:58.04 | Agouti | means there will be a delay though |
| 12:58.22 | Agouti | needs a persistant to let the behaviour/search chain run |
| 12:59.40 | Agouti | can't work out how to use the Location Arc validator |
| 12:59.45 | Agouti | which might to the trick |
| 13:00.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster mapman1 (4c4059eb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.64.89.235) |
| 13:00.08 | mapman1 | wow |
| 13:00.16 | mapman1 | firefox5 is fucking shit |
| 13:00.23 | Agouti | oh? |
| 13:00.36 | mapman1 | shit is full of bugs |
| 13:00.44 | Agouti | gogo gadget chrome? |
| 13:00.48 | mapman1 | what were you guys saying |
| 13:00.55 | mapman1 | yea im on chrome now |
| 13:01.03 | Agouti | i was trying to work out the best way to do a backstab ability |
| 13:01.09 | Rnuomer | & I helped |
| 13:01.11 | Rnuomer | <3 |
| 13:01.18 | mapman1 | its kinda sad mozilla managed to screw up a good browser |
| 13:01.32 | Agouti | came up with a covoluted chain involving applying a behaviour with a arc search looking for the caster, and base it off that |
| 13:01.35 | mapman1 | I heard the sound that it makes when someone says your name |
| 13:01.42 | mapman1 | so what were u sayin? |
| 13:01.58 | Agouti | but I'm wondering if the Location Arc validator could be used |
| 13:02.17 | Agouti | there is very little in data which can interact with a unit's facing angle, though |
| 13:02.53 | mind_spark | hi |
| 13:03.00 | Agouti | waves |
| 13:03.00 | mapman1 | uhm sorry i cant help with that |
| 13:03.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Xan (53e34a48@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.227.74.72) |
| 13:03.06 | mapman1 | sup xan |
| 13:03.13 | Xan | hay |
| 13:03.19 | Rnuomer | hi =:D |
| 13:03.24 | mind_spark | anyone interested in increasing attributes when ur hero levels on a map? |
| 13:04.14 | mind_spark | was wondering if someone wanted to test a tutorial i created |
| 13:04.23 | Rnuomer | NA? |
| 13:04.43 | mind_spark | dunno if its too descriptive and whatnot |
| 13:04.52 | mind_spark | NA? |
| 13:04.55 | mapman1 | heres what i meant by forever alone |
| 13:04.56 | mapman1 | http://funnypiclol.com/wp-content/uploads/youtube/img_13860_forever-alone.jpg |
| 13:04.59 | Agouti | yay for searching! |
| 13:05.00 | Agouti | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/17644-data-data-driven-caster-behind-target-validator/ |
| 13:05.17 | Rnuomer | I can help if the tutorial is on NA servers |
| 13:05.57 | mind_spark | pasted it on sc2mapster.com |
| 13:06.15 | mind_spark | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/23106-selectable-hero-attribute-increase/ |
| 13:06.40 | Agouti | could use some formatting and headings |
| 13:06.47 | Agouti | to help people who want to scan read |
| 13:06.53 | mind_spark | kk |
| 13:07.15 | Agouti | maybe make everything that is bolded a slightly different color? |
| 13:07.42 | mapman_ | anyone knows how to change the color of a dialog button completely(without the color blending with the dialogs default color)Ã |
| 13:07.56 | mind_spark | oh lol |
| 13:08.11 | mind_spark | not supposed to look like that :P |
| 13:08.24 | Agouti | looks like a lot of detail |
| 13:08.26 | Agouti | well done :) |
| 13:08.26 | mapman1 | :/ |
| 13:08.45 | mind_spark | maybe overly detailed :P |
| 13:08.49 | mapman1 | im still here :) |
| 13:08.54 | mapman1 | on chrome ftw |
| 13:09.02 | mind_spark | anyways, i cant create headings and stuff when editing can i? |
| 13:09.05 | Agouti | well, it's hard to quickly work out what you are doing |
| 13:09.24 | Agouti | for someone like me, who knows how to do all that sort of stuff but is just interested in how you put it together |
| 13:09.30 | Agouti | like, what the approach was |
| 13:09.49 | Agouti | perhaps reword & format the summary ? |
| 13:11.00 | Agouti | OOhhhhh enumerate area, of couuuuurrrse |
| 13:11.25 | Xan | of course |
| 13:11.41 | Agouti | herpy derpy |
| 13:11.51 | Agouti | carry on, nothing to see here |
| 13:11.53 | Agouti | move along now |
| 13:12.14 | mapman1 | :/ |
| 13:12.29 | mapman1 | anyone ever changed the color of a dialog button? |
| 13:12.41 | Agouti | what do you mean, color? |
| 13:12.46 | Agouti | as in the background color? |
| 13:12.54 | mapman1 | the function |
| 13:12.58 | Agouti | text? |
| 13:13.02 | mapman1 | set dialog item color |
| 13:13.06 | mapman1 | no |
| 13:13.13 | mapman1 | just to button |
| 13:13.17 | Agouti | what is it actually doing? |
| 13:13.20 | mapman1 | the dialog background is hidden |
| 13:13.43 | Agouti | explain exactly what you want to happen |
| 13:13.48 | mind_spark | well the rundown is kinda a summary, should be a more detailed summary at the end too |
| 13:13.50 | mapman1 | it does change the color |
| 13:13.52 | mapman1 | but the problem |
| 13:14.03 | mapman1 | is it only "stacks" it on top of the default color |
| 13:14.03 | Agouti | you need to be more specific |
| 13:14.06 | mapman1 | so... |
| 13:14.15 | mapman1 | default color is blue |
| 13:14.19 | mapman1 | and you set it to yellow |
| 13:14.24 | Agouti | background color? |
| 13:14.24 | mapman1 | it gives an ugly green |
| 13:14.33 | mapman1 | yea |
| 13:14.37 | Agouti | riiight |
| 13:14.43 | Agouti | why didn't you just say so at the start :/ |
| 13:14.47 | mapman1 | you knows, toss=blue terran=gr4ee zerg=rorange |
| 13:14.57 | Agouti | that is tint by race |
| 13:15.01 | mapman1 | yea |
| 13:15.09 | Agouti | and it's not set by the color |
| 13:15.19 | Agouti | it's set by the diolog item background |
| 13:15.20 | mapman1 | what is it set by? |
| 13:15.22 | mapman1 | o.o |
| 13:15.30 | Agouti | there are 3 different background images for each |
| 13:15.33 | mapman1 | i hid the dialog backgroud |
| 13:15.37 | Agouti | 1 blue, 1 orange, etc |
| 13:15.39 | mapman1 | yet the color stays |
| 13:16.13 | mapman1 | it seems each button has a backgroud image of its own |
| 13:17.07 | Agouti | 1 moment |
| 13:17.16 | mapman1 | ok |
| 13:17.27 | Agouti | I have many buttons not tinted by race color |
| 13:17.30 | Agouti | let me see how I did them |
| 13:17.33 | Agouti | have to wait for map to load |
| 13:18.20 | mapman1 | you want screenshot? |
| 13:18.21 | Agouti | seems to be nothing special to it? |
| 13:18.22 | Agouti | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.23 | Agouti | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.23 | Agouti | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:18.31 | Agouti | that background is just a grey one |
| 13:18.42 | mapman1 | yea thats defaulot settings no? |
| 13:18.49 | mapman1 | wait |
| 13:19.03 | Agouti | that might be the effect you are after |
| 13:19.07 | mapman1 | aint Assets\Textures\ui_techpurchase_techbutton_available_normalpressed.dds green? |
| 13:19.24 | Agouti | no |
| 13:19.27 | Agouti | not for me |
| 13:19.28 | mapman1 | oh wait |
| 13:19.32 | mapman1 | its not the same that i though |
| 13:19.34 | mapman1 | thought |
| 13:19.37 | mapman1 | ok ill try it |
| 13:19.49 | Agouti | do you want a SS? |
| 13:20.46 | mapman1 | SS? |
| 13:21.14 | Agouti | http://imgur.com/kyXMR.png |
| 13:21.35 | Agouti | there are 2 different levels of highlight you can use with that button background |
| 13:21.51 | Agouti | but that is what it looks like |
| 13:22.15 | mind_spark | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/23108-select-attributes-when-hero-levels/ |
| 13:22.20 | mind_spark | how bout this? better? |
| 13:22.22 | mapman1 | but |
| 13:22.23 | mapman1 | is it me or |
| 13:22.39 | mapman1 | this button is a bit different from the default |
| 13:23.35 | Agouti | er mind_spark you double posted |
| 13:23.56 | mind_spark | i know, deleted old one now |
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| 13:24.11 | mind_spark | dunno how to edit headings and whatnot in edit post |
| 13:24.25 | mind_spark | so just posted new updated and deleted old |
| 13:24.35 | Agouti | o lol |
| 13:24.39 | Agouti | what I meant was |
| 13:24.41 | Agouti | have a look at |
| 13:24.41 | Agouti | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/8926-data-working-with-attachments-beginner-difficulty/#posts |
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| 13:25.09 | Agouti | see how it's really easy to scan read? |
| 13:25.18 | Agouti | I mean, it also took 4x as long to make probably |
| 13:25.39 | Agouti | just a suggestion ;) |
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| 13:25.46 | mind_spark | yeh :P i kinda blow at organizing stuff tho |
| 13:25.53 | burne- | hi gusy |
| 13:25.58 | burne- | guys |
| 13:26.00 | Rnuomer | hi =:D |
| 13:26.01 | mind_spark | hi |
| 13:26.02 | Agouti | forget it then :< |
| 13:26.03 | Agouti | er |
| 13:26.04 | Agouti | :> |
| 13:26.11 | mind_spark | :P but new one should be better |
| 13:26.36 | Mexa|Zug | http://www.ign.com/blogs/caleb-ign/2011/07/01/2011-journey-the-year-of-the-art-game |
| 13:26.46 | mind_spark | but that got messed up somehow too lol |
| 13:27.30 | XorioZ | this annoys me. |
| 13:27.34 | XorioZ | ... |
| 13:29.27 | XorioZ | can anyone tell me why this shouldn't work? |
| 13:29.29 | XorioZ | http://xorioz.users.whitehat.dk/Center.jpg |
| 13:30.14 | Xan | maybe rename the return variable to something else than return |
| 13:30.22 | Agouti | ^ |
| 13:30.42 | XorioZ | can compile the function it self but as soon as i try to use it it gives me a syntax error |
| 13:30.51 | Xan | what line? |
| 13:30.59 | Agouti | reeeename it |
| 13:31.03 | Agouti | easy test |
| 13:31.10 | Agouti | call it returnVar |
| 13:31.13 | Agouti | or returnInt |
| 13:31.18 | Dresnia | hah |
| 13:31.22 | Agouti | or whatever tickles your fancy |
| 13:31.22 | Xan | actually, you dont need a variable, just return the value |
| 13:31.23 | XorioZ | did that |
| 13:31.27 | XorioZ | not helping |
| 13:31.27 | Dresnia | my pc goes out from sleep too normal in like 0,1 second |
| 13:31.39 | Agouti | are you sure you are using Arithmatic (Int) ?\ |
| 13:31.49 | Agouti | not Real |
| 13:31.58 | XorioZ | yep |
| 13:32.34 | Xan | try without a variable |
| 13:32.38 | Agouti | ^ |
| 13:32.54 | Xan | just Return (calculation) |
| 13:33.23 | Agouti | oh by the by, if anyone is curious: you can use Return to break out of any function, whether it has a return value or not |
| 13:33.36 | Agouti | but if it doesn't you have to use custom script and put in Return; |
| 13:33.51 | Dresnia | Anyone know a good backgrounds webby ? |
| 13:33.54 | Xan | return is same as skip remaining actions in a trigger |
| 13:33.55 | XorioZ | nope. removing the var and returning the value directly does not help |
| 13:34.08 | Agouti | Dresnia: deviantart.com ;) |
| 13:34.16 | Agouti | also |
| 13:34.20 | Agouti | images.google.com |
| 13:34.22 | Xan | then somehting else must be causing the error |
| 13:35.01 | Xan | whats the action where you use the function? |
| 13:35.09 | Dresnia | Agouti : I got the pc you told me btw :p |
| 13:35.15 | Dresnia | I'm as happy as ever |
| 13:35.17 | Agouti | o noes |
| 13:35.19 | Agouti | yay! |
| 13:35.32 | Agouti | btw if you want a little more speed |
| 13:35.34 | Dresnia | and I bought a big ass monster tower ;p |
| 13:35.34 | XorioZ | argh |
| 13:35.39 | Agouti | set up a raid with another 1tb ;) |
| 13:35.49 | Dresnia | I only use this SSD tbh lol |
| 13:35.52 | Agouti | RAID ugh |
| 13:35.52 | Agouti | 5 |
| 13:35.55 | Agouti | I think it is |
| 13:35.58 | Agouti | oh |
| 13:35.59 | Dresnia | 120gig is more then enough for me |
| 13:36.06 | Agouti | oh fair enough |
| 13:36.08 | Dresnia | but I got a 1TB extra in case of |
| 13:36.12 | Agouti | I could never make to with that much lol |
| 13:36.13 | XorioZ | i did the same calculation directly on the var instead of using my center function. and that works |
| 13:36.16 | Dresnia | but I usually don't download stuff |
| 13:36.16 | Xan | in case of emergency |
| 13:36.19 | Agouti | I have shittons |
| 13:36.26 | Xan | strange XorioZ |
| 13:36.34 | Dresnia | I don't understand how people store stuff |
| 13:36.45 | Dresnia | if I 'store' it's just old files I forgot too delete or such |
| 13:36.58 | Xan | store movies etc Dresnia |
| 13:37.00 | Agouti | a couple of hundred movies/eps in 1080p |
| 13:37.04 | Agouti | music in lossless |
| 13:37.06 | Agouti | not hard |
| 13:37.11 | Dresnia | I should fix musics.. |
| 13:37.20 | Dresnia | grooveshark.com quality isn't the best |
| 13:37.33 | Agouti | good 1080p is like 10gb/hour |
| 13:37.35 | Dresnia | but I'm too lazy too filter out the bad songs |
| 13:37.47 | XorioZ | where i live we have a 12TB Nas. :) and its full :O |
| 13:37.48 | Agouti | beatportal.com is good |
| 13:37.51 | Agouti | if you are into that |
| 13:37.53 | Agouti | yeah |
| 13:38.04 | Agouti | it's really easy to fill them |
| 13:38.08 | Xan | I got a 2tb, will take a while to fill |
| 13:38.13 | Dresnia | Spotify is comming too belgium soon |
| 13:38.18 | Agouti | I have firends into anime as well |
| 13:38.21 | Xan | spotify is awesome |
| 13:38.25 | Dresnia | It's 5 a month but it's worth it |
| 13:38.30 | Agouti | so you know, 300 odd eps of bleach in 720p |
| 13:38.35 | Agouti | there is 200gb |
| 13:38.45 | Agouti | actually, more like 400 probably |
| 13:38.47 | Agouti | haven't checked |
| 13:38.53 | Xan | wtf is bleach? |
| 13:38.59 | Agouti | :o |
| 13:39.05 | XorioZ | ohh Agouti a fellow mangaka :P |
| 13:39.06 | Agouti | shocked stare |
| 13:39.15 | Dresnia | I'm unsure about monitor setup though |
| 13:39.20 | Dresnia | I'm strongly considering a 30" |
| 13:39.21 | Agouti | Bleach is epic |
| 13:39.22 | XorioZ | Bleach is just the shiaz |
| 13:39.30 | Xan | sounds retarded |
| 13:39.31 | Xan | :) |
| 13:39.36 | XorioZ | not as epic as One Piece tho |
| 13:39.38 | Agouti | however if you watch it with english dub I will shun you |
| 13:39.45 | Agouti | and ridicule |
| 13:39.53 | Agouti | and give you /glare |
| 13:39.55 | XorioZ | yes English dub is lame |
| 13:40.12 | Agouti | the exception to the no dubs rule is lucky star |
| 13:40.12 | burne- | NARUTOOOOOOo |
| 13:40.24 | Dresnia | .. |
| 13:40.28 | burne- | bleach is shit |
| 13:40.29 | burne- | :( |
| 13:40.43 | burne- | MANKEYSHARINGAN |
| 13:40.47 | Xan | whats with all this adults watching kids shows |
| 13:40.48 | Xan | :) |
| 13:40.49 | XorioZ | started with english dub but once i started waching ep's with subs i never went back. so much of the humer and other stuff get's lost in dub. |
| 13:40.51 | Agouti | MONKEY MAGIC |
| 13:40.54 | Dresnia | I watched Transformers 3 in 3D last night btw |
| 13:40.56 | XorioZ | lol Xan |
| 13:41.02 | Agouti | the english dub for bleach is shit |
| 13:41.06 | Agouti | such bad acting |
| 13:41.12 | XorioZ | thinking anime only is for kids. FAIL |
| 13:41.16 | burne- | isnt every dub in englishorrible? |
| 13:41.24 | Agouti | lucky star is good |
| 13:41.26 | Agouti | and one other |
| 13:41.29 | Agouti | which I can't remember |
| 13:41.46 | Agouti | samurai pizza cats! |
| 13:41.47 | Xan | its for small children |
| 13:41.47 | Xan | :P |
| 13:41.54 | XorioZ | hmm lucky star. can't remember if i have seen that |
| 13:42.02 | Agouti | yeah watch a real mans show, like my little pony |
| 13:42.04 | burne- | [C] money and control was kinda intereting |
| 13:42.15 | burne- | I dont wantch that much anime |
| 13:42.23 | burne- | every now and then if some interesting anime pops up |
| 13:42.30 | Agouti | anime is just another film media |
| 13:42.52 | Agouti | I like it because special effects don't get in the way of the story |
| 13:43.05 | XorioZ | Xan. you just think that. thinking that the japanese ppl are so sick that they would make blod and gore violence for kids :) |
| 13:43.17 | Xan | painted blood though |
| 13:43.30 | Agouti | Xan is only joking anyway |
| 13:43.49 | Agouti | plenty of anime would be totally unsuitable for kids |
| 13:43.50 | XorioZ | Xan. watch Death Note. if you still think anime only is for kids after that there is something wrong with your brain. |
| 13:43.54 | Agouti | a lot of it isn't even suitable for adults |
| 13:44.33 | Xan | even with blood it looks childish, even if it isn't for kids :) |
| 13:44.52 | mapman1 | tsok bro |
| 13:44.55 | XorioZ | like the new Dead Man Wonderland. it's so sick i had to stop watching it. |
| 13:45.11 | XorioZ | well you are entitled to that opinion |
| 13:45.23 | mapman1 | wow it takes 60 seconds to open trigger editor now |
| 13:45.23 | Xan | maybe I just don't like the style |
| 13:45.33 | Agouti | ^ more likely |
| 13:45.39 | Xan | and also I have a friend who likes anime - maybe thats why I dont like it :P |
| 13:45.46 | Agouti | I'm trying to remember the name of a series |
| 13:45.51 | Agouti | miniseries |
| 13:46.05 | Agouti | the main character was a girl who for most of it only said nuu |
| 13:46.12 | Agouti | a* |
| 13:46.15 | Agouti | main char |
| 13:47.03 | Agouti | that was a pretty dark series |
| 13:47.54 | XorioZ | Agouti what's your opinion on Death Note :) |
| 13:48.05 | Agouti | I never really got into it |
| 13:48.09 | Agouti | if I must be honest |
| 13:48.25 | XorioZ | well it's a hard one to follow. so much talk. |
| 13:48.33 | Agouti | not really my style |
| 13:48.41 | Agouti | god this is frustrating |
| 13:48.47 | Agouti | I can't remember what it was called |
| 13:49.07 | Agouti | and the force is not strong enough with me |
| 13:49.08 | Agouti | to google it |
| 13:49.57 | Xan | kk leavin, I'll be back after midnight |
| 13:50.04 | Xan | bb |
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| 13:53.57 | Agouti | AHA |
| 13:54.00 | Agouti | Elfen Lied |
| 13:55.19 | mapman1 | anyone knows the default image the editor uses when you create a button for dialog..? |
| 13:55.34 | Agouti | um |
| 13:55.50 | mapman1 | agouti, I tried your trick, i tink it would cor=m ally work, but my button is 25x25 so its too small |
| 13:55.59 | XorioZ | uh Elfen Lied. that's a god one |
| 13:56.57 | mapman1 | btw, real variables can hadle negative valuies right? |
| 13:57.23 | Agouti | correct |
| 13:57.29 | mapman1 | cool tk |
| 13:57.44 | Agouti | I like the music from Elfen Lied as well |
| 13:57.44 | Agouti | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaV6eDvgiG4 |
| 13:58.26 | Agouti | Lucy died near the end of the series, didn't she? |
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| 13:59.16 | slightlyrandom | Pretty sure she did |
| 13:59.26 | slightlyrandom | Not many survivors, to be honest |
| 13:59.35 | Agouti | no, not really |
| 13:59.51 | slightlyrandom | Statistically, characters were more likely to get ripped apart than anything |
| 14:00.47 | Agouti | or shot |
| 14:00.55 | slightlyrandom | Heh, or that |
| 14:01.04 | slightlyrandom | Seen Paranoia Agent ? |
| 14:02.05 | Agouti | rings a bell |
| 14:02.07 | Agouti | don't think so |
| 14:02.45 | slightlyrandom | It's... different |
| 14:02.57 | slightlyrandom | Don't see those issues tackled in many other media |
| 14:03.15 | slightlyrandom | Or maybe that's just in non-japanese media |
| 14:03.38 | Agouti | well, I can't buy it |
| 14:03.43 | Agouti | torrent time |
| 14:04.33 | slightlyrandom | For an even more strange experience, FLCL is pretty far out there |
| 14:04.56 | Agouti | Dresnia: still looking for backgrounds? |
| 14:04.57 | slightlyrandom | For a more low-key and thoughtful one, Kino's Journey is awesome |
| 14:05.15 | Agouti | I've heard good things about that, actually |
| 14:05.48 | slightlyrandom | It really is worth a look |
| 14:05.53 | Agouti | oke doke |
| 14:11.08 | slightlyrandom | http://wallbase.cc/toplist |
| 14:11.14 | slightlyrandom | The last wallpaper site you'll ever need |
| 14:14.38 | XenoX101 | holy shit |
| 14:14.51 | XenoX101 | is Susan Coffey like the most impeccable chick alive? |
| 14:14.57 | XenoX101 | I can't fault it |
| 14:16.45 | XenoX101 | meanwhile my perfectly constructed energy trigger isnt working D:< |
| 14:18.59 | mapman1 | yea shes hot |
| 14:19.15 | mapman1 | good fapping material |
| 14:20.07 | Agouti | weirdo |
| 14:20.17 | Agouti | ;P |
| 14:20.28 | mapman1 | ?? |
| 14:20.31 | mapman1 | me? |
| 14:20.35 | mapman1 | :/ |
| 14:20.39 | Agouti | oh her, |
| 14:20.46 | Agouti | i retract taht statement |
| 14:20.47 | Agouti | carry on |
| 14:23.07 | Agouti | o rofl |
| 14:23.08 | Agouti | http://wallbase2.org/rozne/8fc34363a7945fbe89ca73b40041b616/wallpaper-322012.jpg |
| 14:26.00 | Slepee | OMG Franchine, these Chocodiles? The chocodiles. OMG. |
| 14:28.15 | XenoX101 | is there any way to add a bunch of newly created units to a unit group? |
| 14:28.26 | XenoX101 | 'last created unit' only applies for a single recently created unit |
| 14:29.25 | mapman1 | XENO |
| 14:29.26 | mapman1 | YEA |
| 14:29.29 | mapman1 | oups |
| 14:29.32 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 14:29.37 | mapman1 | 1 sec |
| 14:29.38 | XenoX101 | overly excited about responding XD |
| 14:29.40 | XenoX101 | k |
| 14:30.14 | mapman1 | theres a "last created units" parameter |
| 14:30.21 | mapman1 | even if its more than once |
| 14:30.24 | mapman1 | one* |
| 14:30.31 | XenoX101 | it doesnt work |
| 14:30.39 | XenoX101 | I did "Kill (Last Created Unit) |
| 14:30.39 | slightlyrandom | XenoX101: Create them one by one, add them one by one |
| 14:30.42 | mapman1 | screenshot? |
| 14:30.47 | XenoX101 | and it killed the one unit |
| 14:30.49 | mapman1 | slight, no need |
| 14:30.52 | mapman1 | ive done it |
| 14:30.52 | XenoX101 | one* |
| 14:30.58 | mapman1 | give me screenshot |
| 14:31.02 | XenoX101 | of what? |
| 14:31.06 | mapman1 | your trigger |
| 14:31.20 | mapman1 | the part where you create units and add them to group |
| 14:31.22 | slightlyrandom | pastebin ir more effective |
| 14:31.25 | mapman1 | imgur.org |
| 14:31.36 | Agouti | please note |
| 14:31.40 | Agouti | it is not valid |
| 14:31.42 | Agouti | to |
| 14:31.46 | Agouti | create unit blah |
| 14:31.56 | Agouti | var foo = last created unit; |
| 14:32.10 | Agouti | it is unreliable |
| 14:32.11 | XenoX101 | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22742814/MicroMatch/err.png |
| 14:32.15 | Agouti | also |
| 14:32.17 | Agouti | what |
| 14:32.17 | Agouti | is |
| 14:32.18 | Agouti | http://wallbase2.org/manga-anime/4a1b6ac7fe8df54dbf59c2423c437ccf/wallpaper-209186.png |
| 14:32.19 | Agouti | out of |
| 14:32.26 | Agouti | I have seen it |
| 14:32.29 | Agouti | but I can't remember it |
| 14:32.51 | slightlyrandom | XenoX101: loop it XenoX101 |
| 14:33.08 | slightlyrandom | For UnitAmount Creat Unit UnitType for Player and Kill Last Created Unit |
| 14:33.24 | mapman1 | ok uhm... |
| 14:33.48 | mapman1 | iyou want to kcreate them and then kill them right away? |
| 14:34.06 | Agouti | I have had problems with create unit blah |
| 14:34.08 | mapman1 | why is the a kill unit action |
| 14:34.09 | XenoX101 | no |
| 14:34.11 | Agouti | last created unit |
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| 14:34.18 | XenoX101 | I want to do something else |
| 14:34.21 | XenoX101 | that involves the units |
| 14:34.27 | Agouti | where the latter doesn't refer to the unit just created |
| 14:34.27 | slightlyrandom | LOOP IT! |
| 14:34.29 | XenoX101 | its the same thing though |
| 14:34.33 | XenoX101 | look won't matter |
| 14:34.36 | XenoX101 | loop* |
| 14:34.45 | XenoX101 | if you keep doing "kill last created unit" |
| 14:34.47 | slightlyrandom | Yes it drat well will |
| 14:34.50 | XenoX101 | I dont think it will go backwards |
| 14:34.55 | XenoX101 | the last one is the one that was last made no? |
| 14:34.58 | slightlyrandom | Do it in a single loop |
| 14:35.01 | XenoX101 | I'll try |
| 14:35.03 | mapman1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:35.09 | mapman1 | thats what you should do |
| 14:35.18 | slightlyrandom | For UnitAmount do (Create Unit | Kill Unit) |
| 14:35.39 | XenoX101 | you can't do "Add all units" |
| 14:35.42 | XenoX101 | you can do "Add Unit" |
| 14:35.48 | XenoX101 | which is no better |
| 14:35.51 | XenoX101 | than kill unit |
| 14:35.56 | XenoX101 | still only 1 unit |
| 14:36.25 | slightlyrandom | Y u no listn? :( |
| 14:37.00 | XenoX101 | ok hm |
| 14:37.02 | XenoX101 | its killing 2 units |
| 14:37.04 | XenoX101 | thats very strange |
| 14:37.05 | XenoX101 | oh wait |
| 14:37.06 | XenoX101 | no it isnt |
| 14:37.14 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 14:37.20 | XenoX101 | slightlyrandom that woudl work yes |
| 14:37.27 | XenoX101 | but very retarded way of doing it |
| 14:37.33 | slightlyrandom | Blame Blizzard |
| 14:37.52 | XenoX101 | do I really have to create units 1 by 1? |
| 14:37.55 | XenoX101 | is it that dumb? |
| 14:37.57 | mapman1 | anyone knows a guide on bank encryption? |
| 14:38.10 | mapman1 | xeno, no you dont |
| 14:38.38 | XenoX101 | then how |
| 14:38.54 | XenoX101 | because last created unit only works for that single, last created unit |
| 14:39.08 | mapman1 | you want to kill the units is that right? |
| 14:39.14 | mapman1 | or just add them to group? |
| 14:39.15 | XenoX101 | it doesnt matter what I want to do with them |
| 14:39.18 | XenoX101 | I could put them in an orgy |
| 14:39.24 | mapman1 | yes it does |
| 14:39.30 | XenoX101 | ok |
| 14:39.33 | XenoX101 | yes, I want to add them all |
| 14:39.36 | XenoX101 | to a unit group |
| 14:39.41 | mapman1 | then do exactly what I said |
| 14:39.45 | mapman1 | scroll up |
| 14:39.46 | XenoX101 | I've already done it |
| 14:39.49 | XenoX101 | and it doesn't work |
| 14:39.55 | XenoX101 | there is no "add all unit" |
| 14:39.59 | XenoX101 | there is "add unit" |
| 14:40.02 | mapman1 | I did it dozens of times in my map |
| 14:40.07 | mapman1 | i sec |
| 14:40.23 | XenoX101 | and even if you do add all unit |
| 14:40.26 | XenoX101 | you cant use "last created unit" |
| 14:40.31 | XenoX101 | because that = 1 single unit |
| 14:40.40 | XenoX101 | so it needs to be some other term |
| 14:40.42 | mapman1 | the function is |
| 14:40.46 | mapman1 | add unit group to unit group |
| 14:40.49 | XenoX101 | yes |
| 14:40.53 | XenoX101 | oh |
| 14:40.56 | XenoX101 | add unit group? |
| 14:41.04 | mapman1 | yes |
| 14:41.11 | mapman1 | if its more than 1 unit |
| 14:41.14 | mapman1 | then its a group |
| 14:41.15 | XenoX101 | ahhh |
| 14:41.17 | XenoX101 | there we go |
| 14:41.18 | mapman1 | lol |
| 14:41.18 | XenoX101 | awesome |
| 14:41.19 | XenoX101 | thanks a lot |
| 14:41.21 | mapman1 | np |
| 14:41.27 | XenoX101 | so it creates |
| 14:41.29 | XenoX101 | a dummy unit group |
| 14:41.30 | XenoX101 | thats fascinating |
| 14:42.01 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 14:42.47 | RndmObjcts | every dialog box tutorial i can find is about putting buttons in a dialog box lol. i want to put my wireframe in it.. xD stupid tutorials!!! |
| 14:42.49 | RndmObjcts | lol |
| 14:43.01 | XenoX101 | wireframe? |
| 14:43.11 | XenoX101 | if its an image |
| 14:43.17 | XenoX101 | ignore the button part and just create the image |
| 14:43.50 | Dustin | You cant put the actuall wireframe area in a dialog |
| 14:43.56 | RndmObjcts | well nash showed me one he made and it looked amazing lol, im trying to recreate it but i have no idea how |
| 14:44.07 | slightlyrandom | Grab his map |
| 14:44.43 | RndmObjcts | i dont think its in his map that he has for download |
| 14:45.01 | RndmObjcts | i wish i would have saved the picture or a link to it to show you, but it looked really good lol |
| 14:45.02 | XenoX101 | it must be a layout thing |
| 14:45.12 | XenoX101 | its either a layout |
| 14:45.14 | XenoX101 | or a dynamic image |
| 14:45.23 | XenoX101 | in that it gets chosen beforehand based on the unit being selected |
| 14:45.36 | XenoX101 | I'm guessing the latter |
| 14:45.40 | XenoX101 | actually |
| 14:45.46 | XenoX101 | that won't work because it needs to update |
| 14:45.50 | XenoX101 | it must be a layout change then |
| 14:49.46 | Dresnia | I'm bored >_> |
| 14:49.54 | Dresnia | Why isn't there any good game out there :-( |
| 14:50.07 | Dresnia | Portal 2 looks 'ok' but I hate thinking while I try too relax :P |
| 14:50.22 | XenoX101 | *cough* |
| 14:50.30 | XenoX101 | you do realise what channel you are in right ;p |
| 14:50.41 | Dresnia | The only one I'm in |
| 14:50.47 | Dresnia | So it's hard too confuse myself |
| 14:50.54 | XenoX101 | well |
| 14:50.56 | Dresnia | You do know your in my channel right ? |
| 14:51.03 | Dresnia | You little ignorant wannabe. |
| 14:51.03 | XenoX101 | speaking of good games ;p |
| 14:51.13 | XenoX101 | I hear theres this one called |
| 14:51.15 | XenoX101 | StarCraft 2 |
| 14:51.26 | XenoX101 | and apparently |
| 14:51.32 | XenoX101 | you can even create your own custom games within it |
| 14:51.45 | XenoX101 | and play those with friends and other people online |
| 14:51.52 | XenoX101 | quite fascinating really |
| 14:56.39 | Dresnia | yeah |
| 14:56.44 | Dresnia | let's play nexus wars and shit |
| 14:56.45 | Dresnia | woohoo |
| 15:03.09 | Dresnia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tjb14VoWjg |
| 15:03.16 | Dresnia | this is so fucking awesome lol |
| 15:03.32 | mapman1 | lol |
| 15:03.51 | mapman1 | nexus wars is the most brain numbing custom map on bnet |
| 15:04.06 | mapman1 | I feel im losing IQ when i polay this |
| 15:04.18 | Agouti | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tjb14VoWjg&feature=player_detailpage#t=720s |
| 15:04.19 | Dresnia | What I was indirectly stating is, that SC2 and Editor is great. But the community is the worst in it's kind. |
| 15:05.14 | Agouti | and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tjb14VoWjg&feature=player_detailpage#t=757s |
| 15:05.19 | Dresnia | :p |
| 15:07.19 | Agouti | I actually don't like MLP that much |
| 15:07.30 | Agouti | just the fan stuff and memes :D |
| 15:07.39 | Dresnia | idd |
| 15:08.04 | Agouti | Insulin-dependent diabetes ? |
| 15:08.28 | Agouti | ohh |
| 15:08.37 | Agouti | indeed ^_^ |
| 15:08.51 | Dresnia | : - ) |
| 15:08.56 | Dresnia | you funny |
| 15:09.05 | Dresnia | be my maggot |
| 15:09.21 | Agouti | hahaha you funny man. I kill you last |
| 15:09.47 | Dresnia | I'm already dead so meh |
| 15:10.56 | Agouti | can't find a vid of that |
| 15:11.03 | Agouti | booo |
| 15:11.05 | Dresnia | anyone know a good series like |
| 15:11.08 | Dresnia | bones / castle ish ? |
| 15:11.30 | Agouti | dexter? |
| 15:11.35 | Agouti | idk |
| 15:11.38 | Dresnia | ;D |
| 15:14.42 | Dresnia | How does someone come up with an idea like MLP though :/ |
| 15:15.54 | XenoX101 | ok so |
| 15:16.02 | XenoX101 | apparently rapidly firing triggers |
| 15:16.05 | XenoX101 | lag the game like a bitch |
| 15:16.11 | XenoX101 | dont use rapid fire triggers! |
| 15:16.17 | XenoX101 | "Any unit enters" is bad bad bad |
| 15:16.20 | Dresnia | roger |
| 15:16.51 | Agouti | it's up there with "any unit takes damage" |
| 15:17.10 | Dresnia | it's usuable with a timer tho.. |
| 15:17.23 | XenoX101 | mine only fires for a brief moment |
| 15:17.26 | XenoX101 | and it lags a lot during that moment |
| 15:17.30 | Agouti | with predefined areas it's ok |
| 15:18.06 | Agouti | I have one for destroying flying units that enter the edge of the playing area |
| 15:18.39 | Dresnia | you remind me of my father... and I hated my father ! |
| 15:18.44 | Dresnia | too bad he went suicidal |
| 15:18.56 | Dresnia | dark knight has to be one of the better movies out there thanks to his acting |
| 15:18.57 | Dresnia | :-( |
| 15:19.04 | Agouti | yeah, he made it |
| 15:19.13 | Dresnia | Why so serious ? |
| 15:19.19 | Agouti | the batmobile was kinda cool but... |
| 15:19.25 | Dresnia | Joker ownd it |
| 15:19.33 | Dresnia | I also loved the PS3 game about it |
| 15:19.33 | Agouti | but that is true of many series |
| 15:19.38 | Dresnia | was really really awesome |
| 15:19.47 | Agouti | can you imagine big bang theory without such a brilliant sheldon? |
| 15:19.50 | Dresnia | if you into gaming, check it out really |
| 15:20.06 | Dresnia | well true |
| 15:20.19 | Dresnia | and btw is TBBT starting up again soon or what ? >< |
| 15:20.36 | Agouti | idk |
| 15:20.43 | Agouti | I felt the series ran out of puff |
| 15:20.49 | Agouti | first season was great |
| 15:20.58 | Agouti | second and third were ok |
| 15:20.59 | Dresnia | true it's pretty limited |
| 15:21.03 | Agouti | kinda went downhill from there |
| 15:21.15 | Dresnia | hot chick, geeks, appartement |
| 15:21.20 | Dresnia | not much stuff too work with |
| 15:21.38 | Dresnia | like batman has a whole history, a town, a whole lot of enemy's and stuff too work with |
| 15:21.40 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 15:21.55 | XenoX101 | I wonder if I were to stream the highly tedious exercise of me making this map |
| 15:21.57 | XenoX101 | whether anyone would care |
| 15:22.01 | XenoX101 | to watch it ;p |
| 15:22.08 | Dresnia | I wouldn't care at all |
| 15:22.16 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 15:22.19 | XenoX101 | its mainly triggers |
| 15:22.20 | Dresnia | Outside terrain it's all boring too look at |
| 15:22.21 | Dresnia | no offense |
| 15:22.24 | XenoX101 | yeah |
| 15:22.26 | XenoX101 | I agree |
| 15:22.35 | XenoX101 | its just such a trainride |
| 15:22.35 | Dresnia | and even then, depends wich part on terrain :p |
| 15:22.42 | XenoX101 | but its an emotional trainride so |
| 15:22.55 | XenoX101 | unless I had camera and microphone |
| 15:23.02 | XenoX101 | and even then |
| 15:25.12 | Agouti | timelapse of terrain maybe |
| 15:25.21 | Agouti | would be interesting |
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| 15:26.00 | Dresnia | http://www.livestream.com/dresniastream/video?clipId=pla_19fae005-16be-4913-bbd2-c376646123ad&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb |
| 15:26.01 | Dresnia | : - D |
| 15:26.39 | Dresnia | Anyways I'm off for a shower and family dinner |
| 15:26.51 | Dresnia | I'm so going to get ass kicked for spending nearly 2k on a pc |
| 15:26.52 | Dresnia | ugh. |
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| 15:27.28 | Agouti | lols |
| 15:28.01 | Dresnia | < afk |
| 15:35.25 | mapman1 | yo xeno |
| 15:35.35 | XenoX101 | halo |
| 15:35.44 | mapman1 | if you like susan coffe |
| 15:35.54 | mapman1 | check out that chick named luba |
| 15:36.07 | mapman1 | good fapping material aswell |
| 15:36.49 | XenoX101 | ya she's alright |
| 15:40.56 | mapman1 | anyone knows a bank encryption guide or something |
| 15:44.09 | XenoX101 | why cant I pick units from a unit group that I recently added units to :( |
| 15:44.22 | mapman1 | you can |
| 15:44.25 | XenoX101 | I have an action definition that creates units, adds them to a unit group |
| 15:44.27 | Agouti | ^ |
| 15:44.29 | XenoX101 | then the next action is |
| 15:44.34 | XenoX101 | "pick each unit from" |
| 15:44.37 | mapman1 | it should work |
| 15:44.38 | XenoX101 | that particular unit group |
| 15:44.40 | XenoX101 | and it doesnt work :( |
| 15:44.42 | mapman1 | if they are in the right order |
| 15:44.58 | mapman1 | what unit are you picking |
| 15:44.58 | Agouti | probably because of the same reason as Create unit; Last Created Unit is bugged |
| 15:45.00 | mapman1 | all? |
| 15:45.05 | mapman1 | or a specific number |
| 15:45.06 | Agouti | try adding a single cycle wait |
| 15:45.07 | mapman1 | ? |
| 15:45.07 | XenoX101 | it doesnt use last created unit though |
| 15:45.13 | XenoX101 | I tried that |
| 15:45.47 | Agouti | copypasta |
| 15:45.51 | Agouti | pastebin or such |
| 15:46.24 | mapman1 | give us a copypasta |
| 15:47.17 | XenoX101 | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22742814/MicroMatch/err2.png |
| 15:47.26 | XenoX101 | thats the action definition |
| 15:47.34 | XenoX101 | and I tried doing the same thing in the action definition |
| 15:47.37 | XenoX101 | and it works fine |
| 15:47.40 | XenoX101 | outside it it doesnt :( |
| 15:48.09 | XenoX101 | you can see the player groups are exactly the same, and the paramaters are parsed the same |
| 15:48.51 | XenoX101 | player is an integer and batch is a string in both cases |
| 15:49.02 | XenoX101 | but nothing will work for the units |
| 15:49.07 | XenoX101 | I tried killing them |
| 15:49.19 | XenoX101 | and they won't die outside of the original action definition |
| 15:49.36 | mapman1 | try to |
| 15:49.50 | mapman1 | put your action as sub function |
| 15:50.01 | mapman1 | often fixes lots of shits for me |
| 15:50.19 | XenoX101 | you mean turn it into a function? |
| 15:50.41 | XenoX101 | the unit spawning definiton? |
| 15:50.48 | mapman1 | no |
| 15:50.49 | mapman1 | just |
| 15:51.08 | mapman1 | o sorry |
| 15:51.21 | mapman1 | what i mean is check the "create thread" |
| 15:51.26 | mapman1 | in action options |
| 15:51.55 | mapman1 | hey nub question here, how do I make text commands |
| 15:52.04 | mapman1 | like -votekick xxx |
| 15:54.25 | mapman1 | anyone? :/ |
| 15:56.15 | mapman1 | :3 |
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| 15:58.48 | XenoX101 | play enters chat string? |
| 16:01.12 | XenoX101 | player* |
| 16:01.16 | mapman1 | this is an event? |
| 16:01.41 | mapman1 | oh |
| 16:01.45 | mapman1 | i think i found it |
| 16:01.50 | mapman1 | "chat messsage" |
| 16:01.55 | mapman1 | they put it in game section |
| 16:14.48 | Agouti | anyone here played with multilevel upgrades? |
| 16:14.58 | Agouti | I've always done them in a binary fashion |
| 16:15.03 | Agouti | either not researched or researched |
| 16:15.21 | Agouti | however wouldn't mind cleaning things up a bit |
| 16:15.41 | Agouti | for units with multilevel upgrades (that currently just have a different upgrade for each level) |
| 16:19.17 | Agouti | or it could be stupidly easy and I just never bothered to look at it |
| 16:19.19 | Agouti | don't mind me |
| 16:19.24 | XenoX101 | you can do it |
| 16:19.29 | XenoX101 | I did it with my other map |
| 16:19.33 | XenoX101 | for abilities |
| 16:19.40 | Agouti | yeah |
| 16:19.41 | Agouti | it is |
| 16:19.49 | Agouti | just done herpd with the derp |
| 16:24.26 | Otixa | ugh |
| 16:24.29 | Otixa | Note to self |
| 16:24.36 | Otixa | Don't take 4 sleeping pills |
| 16:24.39 | Otixa | x_x |
| 16:25.06 | Agouti | I wasn't planning on O_o |
| 16:25.20 | Agouti | I generally don't need to make notes to myself to not do obviously stupid things |
| 16:25.24 | Agouti | maybe that's just me |
| 16:25.48 | Otixa | I just woke up after sleeping for 15 hours ;/ |
| 16:26.24 | Otixa | And I'm still sleepy... |
| 16:26.44 | Agouti | yup, and most of that sleep won't of benefited you at all |
| 16:26.52 | Mexa|Zug | [18:25] <Otixa> I just woke up after sleeping for 15 hours ;/ -Me about 9hours ago |
| 16:26.58 | Agouti | maybe you need to write yourself a sticky note |
| 16:27.05 | Agouti | "think before doing stupid stuff" |
| 16:27.11 | Mexa|Zug | No wait, I mean 9+12 |
| 16:27.15 | Mexa|Zug | 21 hours ago |
| 16:27.19 | Mexa|Zug | .-..... |
| 16:28.11 | Agouti | (f o,..,o)f |
| 16:28.29 | Otixa | Mexa|Zug, you fell asleep after me ;p |
| 16:28.36 | Otixa | And I -just- woke up :P |
| 16:28.45 | Otixa | hmmm |
| 16:28.47 | Mexa|Zug | When did you fall asleep? |
| 16:29.11 | Mexa|Zug | I counted it as I fell asleep way before you |
| 16:29.18 | Mexa|Zug | And have been awake way more too:P |
| 16:29.20 | Otixa | [03:47] <Otixa> Bai nubs |
| 16:29.32 | XorioZ | Wolla Wolla |
| 16:29.38 | Otixa | ...yeah... No more sleeping pills for me |
| 16:30.07 | Mexa|Zug | Otixa, I was sleeping back then |
| 16:30.09 | Mexa|Zug | I think |
| 16:30.19 | Mexa|Zug | No wait |
| 16:30.21 | Mexa|Zug | I was awake |
| 16:30.25 | Otixa | ye |
| 16:30.28 | Otixa | brb, need coffee and shit |
| 16:30.31 | Mexa|Zug | Because I woke up at 9PM, see? |
| 16:31.26 | Mexa|Zug | going off for a movie, and apparantly soon bedtime |
| 16:31.30 | Mexa|Zug | derpderp and away |
| 16:37.18 | mind_spark | is it possible to show more than 4 attributes on a char? |
| 16:37.43 | JademusSreg | Motive still not on? |
| 16:37.45 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 16:40.07 | mind_spark | like shrinking the displayed on the char or something? |
| 16:40.31 | JademusSreg | You could try changing the font style. |
| 16:40.52 | mind_spark | how do i do that? |
| 16:41.04 | JademusSreg | Though it might be a hardcoded display limit and not a text cutoff limit. |
| 16:41.25 | JademusSreg | You import a custom SC2Styles file into the map. |
| 16:41.40 | JademusSreg | And then reference it from the Game UI data in the data editor. |
| 16:42.03 | mind_spark | bah |
| 16:43.07 | JademusSreg | Defining a custom font or otherwise modifying existing fonts is simple enough. You just need to know the font style it uses. |
| 16:43.40 | JademusSreg | Which you could find by seeing what font style is used by the UI frame for the text. |
| 16:44.46 | mind_spark | this is way past my knowledge :P |
| 16:45.22 | JademusSreg | If I weren't about to play some Terraria, I would lend further assistance. |
| 16:45.31 | mind_spark | hehe |
| 16:45.33 | XenoX101 | man this is crazy |
| 16:45.41 | XenoX101 | I have a trigger set to kill a set of units |
| 16:45.45 | XenoX101 | and it is killing units like |
| 16:45.47 | XenoX101 | 50% of the time |
| 16:46.35 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 16:48.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster ashamed (43be33f7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.190.51.247) |
| 16:48.35 | ashamed | I need somone to figure out how to remove ribbon from events without a timer >< |
| 16:49.43 | XenoX101 | AHA |
| 16:49.44 | XenoX101 | GOTCHA |
| 16:49.49 | XenoX101 | ok |
| 16:50.26 | JademusSreg | How the heck do you intend to remove ribbons Ash? |
| 16:50.52 | Agouti | I... ribbons? |
| 16:51.34 | XenoX101 | scissors! |
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| 16:54.41 | Agouti | genius! |
| 16:54.49 | RndmObjcts | agreed |
| 16:55.44 | Dustin | Ribbons? |
| 16:56.11 | Dustin | JademusSreg |
| 16:56.11 | RndmObjcts | streamers |
| 16:56.15 | Dustin | You got a server setup? |
| 16:58.32 | ashamed | jade |
| 16:58.34 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 16:58.35 | ashamed | i already figured it out |
| 16:58.38 | JademusSreg | For Terraria? |
| 16:58.44 | ashamed | but it freezes the editor and sc2 in like 1 minutes |
| 16:58.46 | ashamed | 10* |
| 16:58.57 | ashamed | so i need to figure out another way to do it >< |
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| 16:59.03 | Dustin | For terraria |
| 16:59.06 | JademusSreg | Cool Ash; I am always excited by fun and exciting ways to crash the game. |
| 16:59.07 | StarDust | sup guys |
| 16:59.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster tordy (ad44a44a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.68.164.74) |
| 16:59.19 | RndmObjcts | sup |
| 16:59.32 | tordy | ello |
| 16:59.42 | ashamed | well help me no crash it >< |
| 16:59.49 | ashamed | right now what i am doing is setting a 0.001 timer |
| 16:59.51 | JademusSreg | Dustin, I've not looked into how to set up a server for it. Though I'm starting to wish I had a dedicated server machine to use wityh minecraft and shit. |
| 16:59.55 | ashamed | and then removing the ribbon |
| 17:00.03 | ashamed | and then looping that |
| 17:00.12 | Dustin | terraria server is easy, you can host it right from the game |
| 17:00.13 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I could just host a game and your internets could bump their ugly wigglers together. |
| 17:00.20 | JademusSreg | *our |
| 17:00.21 | Dustin | Then open a new copy and connect |
| 17:00.44 | JademusSreg | Hopefully the connection won't be complete shit. |
| 17:01.03 | ashamed | it iwll be |
| 17:01.07 | ashamed | how was teh world jade? |
| 17:01.28 | JademusSreg | I cannot understand how people enjoy amusement parks. |
| 17:02.38 | ashamed | ... |
| 17:02.42 | ashamed | well disney world sucks |
| 17:02.48 | ashamed | because the rides are not that good |
| 17:02.50 | ashamed | its hot as shit |
| 17:02.57 | ashamed | and you wait for hours |
| 17:03.16 | ashamed | i had a cut in front of the line pass for every ride |
| 17:03.18 | ashamed | so i didnt care :) |
| 17:03.26 | JademusSreg | I am simply incapable of enjoying standing around, waiting for rides I couldn't give a shit about even if they had kiosks dispensing free shit. |
| 17:03.27 | ashamed | i also had that for universal |
| 17:03.58 | ashamed | but i have been to disney world without that pass too |
| 17:03.59 | ashamed | and it sucks |
| 17:04.03 | ashamed | its exausting lol |
| 17:04.11 | JademusSreg | Dustin, I'm in, I guess you need my server ip? |
| 17:04.20 | ashamed | what yall doing? |
| 17:04.22 | Dustin | yess |
| 17:06.21 | JademusSreg | I wish it would display that in game. |
| 17:07.16 | Dustin | Actually you'll have to forward ports and give me your external IP |
| 17:07.21 | Dustin | unless you have hamachi |
| 17:07.31 | Dustin | then we can just use that |
| 17:07.56 | JademusSreg | I may. If I do, I haven't used it in forever. |
| 17:08.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster Stewox (~Stewox@86.58.34.166) |
| 17:08.54 | JademusSreg | Nope, I got rid of it. |
| 17:09.44 | Dustin | kkk |
| 17:10.16 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: can you post he pic again of your wireframe in a dialog? |
| 17:10.22 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: the* |
| 17:10.48 | ashamed | what you going DOING? |
| 17:10.53 | ashamed | hamachi JADE |
| 17:11.00 | ashamed | why dont you have this |
| 17:11.20 | JademusSreg | I used to use it. |
| 17:11.40 | JademusSreg | Then it went down for like weeks so I said fuck, I'm not not paying for this shit. |
| 17:11.52 | ashamed | you dont need to pay for it |
| 17:12.01 | Dustin | Hamachi is free :P |
| 17:12.10 | ashamed | so w/e you were using |
| 17:12.13 | ashamed | you were getting ripped off |
| 17:12.16 | JademusSreg | " I'm not not paying for this shit." Double negative jocularly utilized for humorificative pruposes. |
| 17:12.22 | ashamed | Hamachi is how you pirate games |
| 17:12.27 | ashamed | and still play them online with your friends |
| 17:12.28 | ashamed | :) |
| 17:12.28 | Dustin | Oh I read it wrong :P |
| 17:12.49 | ashamed | Jade lies.. he is just trying to cover his ass |
| 17:12.51 | ashamed | since he was wrong |
| 17:13.11 | ashamed | LIES JADE |
| 17:14.03 | ashamed | brb |
| 17:14.19 | ashamed | i think i fixed my map |
| 17:14.22 | ashamed | :) |
| 17:14.55 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 17:18.17 | Stewox | hello |
| 17:18.24 | Stewox | how do i sale up model |
| 17:18.32 | Stewox | geometry instead of only art |
| 17:18.45 | Stewox | the unit model is going throgh walls |
| 17:18.59 | Stewox | scale |
| 17:19.03 | *** join/#sc2mapster s4ikD (~s4ikD@77-57-171-132.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 17:22.39 | Stewox | hello |
| 17:22.52 | Stewox | jademussreg , here ? |
| 17:23.28 | Agouti | Radius |
| 17:24.00 | Stewox | where , in actor ? |
| 17:24.30 | Stewox | aha |
| 17:24.33 | Stewox | in movement |
| 17:24.38 | Stewox | separation radius ? |
| 17:24.45 | Agouti | Unit |
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| 17:57.27 | ashamed | fuck yeah |
| 17:57.33 | ashamed | yeah jade so i did it |
| 17:57.42 | ashamed | i removed the ribbon without editing the model :) |
| 17:57.47 | ashamed | and now it does not freeze my map |
| 17:58.20 | ashamed | JADEMUSSREG |
| 17:58.22 | ashamed | you there? |
| 17:59.59 | Hobrow|Dhugal | ashamed you have 3dsmax? |
| 18:01.07 | ashamed | nope |
| 18:01.13 | Hobrow|Dhugal | k |
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| 18:05.14 | ashamed | jade did you ride the rocken rolla costa? |
| 18:05.22 | Wiz_ | Hello. |
| 18:05.34 | Wiz_ | what's the command to change the nickname? |
| 18:05.41 | ashamed | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.52 | Wiz10011 | Thank you |
| 18:05.55 | ashamed | -.- |
| 18:06.06 | Wiz10011 | Dont you -,- at me! |
| 18:06.27 | Wiz10011 | so whats up? |
| 18:06.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dresnia (~Miranda@94-225-205-79.access.telenet.be) |
| 18:06.42 | Ashamed | >< |
| 18:06.52 | Ashamed | I fixed my map |
| 18:06.55 | Ashamed | it no longer freezes |
| 18:07.03 | Wiz10011 | congrats |
| 18:07.05 | Ashamed | 0.01 scale is hard to mess with lol |
| 18:07.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster MaxMode (~Adium@ip68-6-118-107.sb.sd.cox.net) |
| 18:08.04 | Ashamed | i may just scrap zeratul as a hero |
| 18:08.09 | Ashamed | but as of now is ok |
| 18:08.22 | Ashamed | but his ribbons still flash every once in a while >< |
| 18:08.31 | Dresnia | Ashamed |
| 18:08.35 | Dresnia | I'm BF4 ready :p |
| 18:08.41 | Ashamed | lol |
| 18:08.45 | Ashamed | you get all the shit already? |
| 18:08.46 | Ashamed | or just order it |
| 18:09.00 | Dresnia | I went the webshops place yesterday |
| 18:09.02 | Dresnia | and fixed it |
| 18:09.15 | Ashamed | oh nice |
| 18:09.26 | Ashamed | no new egg :( |
| 18:09.27 | Wiz10011 | what's BF4? |
| 18:09.32 | Dresnia | Battle field |
| 18:09.36 | Ashamed | he is being sarcastic |
| 18:09.41 | Wiz10011 | thought it was battlefield 3 |
| 18:09.57 | Wiz10011 | ohhhh! cant really tell sarcastic from text. |
| 18:10.07 | Dresnia | The 'joke' is I overkill BF3 and most likely pull out BF4 aswell |
| 18:10.17 | Dresnia | Unless it takes same development time as the 3rd.. |
| 18:10.27 | Wiz10011 | yea i figured that part out when Ashamed said you were being sarcastic |
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| 18:10.37 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Hati] by ChanServ |
| 18:10.40 | Dresnia | I went for the Pentium SSD |
| 18:10.46 | Dresnia | and it scared the shit out of me :( |
| 18:11.03 | Wiz10011 | pentium ssd? never heard of it. |
| 18:11.17 | Dresnia | I might be saying it wrong |
| 18:11.22 | Dresnia | intel ssd then ? :s |
| 18:11.46 | Wiz10011 | CPU? |
| 18:11.53 | Dresnia | no, an SSD |
| 18:12.00 | Dresnia | Solit State Drive ? or whatever |
| 18:12.03 | Dresnia | Solid* |
| 18:12.39 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 18:12.40 | Ashamed | how fast |
| 18:12.41 | Ashamed | it be? |
| 18:13.02 | Wiz10011 | yea, never heard of a SSD, i know a little about PC hardware, but SSD is news to me. |
| 18:13.06 | Dresnia | faster then my HD cable could make my monitor switch channel while updating windows / rebooting my pc |
| 18:13.16 | Ashamed | mine is 350 read 300 write |
| 18:13.17 | Wiz10011 | so it's faster then HDD? |
| 18:13.18 | Dresnia | so I had a 2k rig rebooting itself on black screen |
| 18:13.44 | Ashamed | wiz :( |
| 18:13.44 | Dresnia | I also bought the 7.1 from Razer |
| 18:13.48 | Dresnia | Megalodon |
| 18:13.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster RndmObjcts (182195ed@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.33.149.237) |
| 18:13.51 | Ashamed | ssd is the new faster drive |
| 18:13.51 | Dresnia | it's brilliant |
| 18:13.57 | Ashamed | its way expensive though |
| 18:14.09 | Wiz10011 | I see, |
| 18:14.21 | Dresnia | a 120 pentium was 270 or so |
| 18:14.22 | Ashamed | what is that gaming headset or something? |
| 18:14.29 | Dresnia | yeah |
| 18:14.33 | Dresnia | but it's really really good |
| 18:14.37 | Ashamed | yeah yeah |
| 18:14.41 | Ashamed | over prized |
| 18:14.44 | Ashamed | priced* |
| 18:14.47 | Ashamed | i bet with razer on it |
| 18:14.51 | Ashamed | you spend 150 EU? |
| 18:14.55 | Dresnia | 189 |
| 18:14.57 | Ashamed | LOL |
| 18:15.00 | Dresnia | :D |
| 18:15.03 | Ashamed | 250 dollars USD |
| 18:15.04 | Ashamed | >< |
| 18:15.09 | Dresnia | fuck it really |
| 18:15.19 | Dresnia | if you going big, you can always do it for realz right |
| 18:15.20 | Dresnia | :P |
| 18:15.22 | Ashamed | lol |
| 18:15.25 | Ashamed | i wish i could afford it |
| 18:15.30 | Ashamed | i need a new headset right ow |
| 18:15.30 | Dresnia | my dad wasn't happy though haha |
| 18:15.42 | Dresnia | I must say this logitech usb headsets are ok |
| 18:15.44 | RndmObjcts | anyone know a good dialog tutorial that has nothing to do with buttons? lmao.. like every tut is about hero buttons xD |
| 18:15.45 | Dresnia | they go like 30$ |
| 18:15.49 | Ashamed | i was looking at 5:1 that was 60 dollars |
| 18:16.00 | Dresnia | The 7.1 is 'ok' for shooters |
| 18:16.05 | Dresnia | but for music you put it on 2.1 |
| 18:16.18 | Dresnia | else it's like your in a church effect from those 2001 soundcards really |
| 18:16.20 | Ashamed | see i think 5:1 is perfect for gaming |
| 18:16.24 | Ashamed | anything higher is just over kill |
| 18:16.26 | Ashamed | and not needed |
| 18:16.35 | Dresnia | I've got a 5.1 surround |
| 18:16.44 | Dresnia | I'm happy with it for CoD on PS3/360 yeah |
| 18:16.56 | RndmObjcts | ive got a regular headset that cost like 15 bucks and i think it works just fine >.> |
| 18:23.31 | Otixa | Burn, honey. Burn! |
| 18:23.35 | Otixa | Let the fire eat awa! |
| 18:23.46 | Otixa | s/awa/away/ |
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| 18:25.19 | Otixa | puts out his cig on HeyRevolver's forehead |
| 18:26.04 | HeyRevolver | ow |
| 18:26.51 | StarDust | anyone knows how to make the game start automaticly when it fills out? |
| 18:27.06 | Wiz10011 | shouldn't it do that automaticly? |
| 18:27.10 | RndmObjcts | so no one knows of a good dialog tutorial that has nothing to do with buttons? i need to do alot of resting and trial and error with dialogs but i dont even know where to start because everyones tutorials are based on making buttons and making them work more than actual dialogs |
| 18:27.11 | Ashamed | cya later guys |
| 18:27.17 | Wiz10011 | it wont in custom game, but if you join it. it does |
| 18:28.09 | RndmObjcts | testing* |
| 18:31.38 | StarDust | wiz, i thought so but it looks like its not |
| 18:31.54 | Wiz10011 | that's odd, |
| 18:32.00 | StarDust | : |
| 18:32.03 | StarDust | :3 |
| 18:32.04 | Wiz10011 | are you doing join custom or create custom? |
| 18:34.35 | HeyRevolver | anyone had success with removing an item from your inventory once it is used if it grants an ability with only 1 charge? |
| 18:38.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster tigger0jk (tigger0jk@dynamic2-245-006.usc.edu) |
| 18:47.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster Statharas (5e438b67@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.67.139.103) |
| 18:47.21 | Statharas | I got a problem with my model |
| 18:47.50 | Statharas | my model changes between brownish and white-ish depending on the angle its facing |
| 18:48.00 | Statharas | but only does it on normal+ shaders |
| 18:50.02 | StarDust | wiz10011, im doing join |
| 18:51.01 | Wiz10011 | Dont know what to tell you then stardust. |
| 18:51.30 | StarDust | thats weird |
| 18:51.45 | StarDust | btw guy I added Elo rating to my map |
| 18:51.51 | StarDust | Gonna be awesome |
| 18:52.09 | StarDust | has any other map done that before? |
| 18:59.21 | Statharas | someone care to help? |
| 19:00.09 | Otixa | glares |
| 19:00.44 | Otixa | Statharas, did you do what I told you? |
| 19:00.55 | Statharas | yup |
| 19:01.02 | Statharas | i still haven't solved it. |
| 19:01.15 | Otixa | Gimmie a screenshot |
| 19:01.16 | Statharas | should i have any flags? |
| 19:01.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mildawg (5991cdca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.145.205.202) |
| 19:01.28 | StarDust | statharas, whats your problem? |
| 19:01.37 | Statharas | plus, that happens even without specs and normal textures included |
| 19:01.39 | Statharas | in the map |
| 19:01.43 | Mildawg | how do you get the upgrade button to display what level the upgrade is |
| 19:02.08 | Otixa | Prolly your lighting settings then |
| 19:02.11 | Statharas | StarDust, longstoryshort http://dl.dropbox.com/u/932170/Hive/Screenshot2011-07-03%2003_54_58.jpg |
| 19:02.56 | Otixa | Aside from being ugly, seems fine to me |
| 19:03.09 | Statharas | Otixa: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/932170/Hive/matedit.png |
| 19:03.20 | Statharas | crap wait |
| 19:03.24 | Statharas | didn't get uploaded yet |
| 19:03.32 | Statharas | alright |
| 19:03.35 | Statharas | check it now |
| 19:03.59 | Otixa | Seems about rights |
| 19:04.10 | Otixa | Did you clear cache? |
| 19:04.15 | Otixa | i.e. restart the editor |
| 19:05.15 | Otixa | You have to either save the model with a different name and change it in the unit's model or restart the editor every time |
| 19:05.21 | Otixa | It's user friendly like that |
| 19:05.33 | Otixa | Otherwise it won't update any changes you've made |
| 19:05.39 | Statharas | that's an ingame shot |
| 19:06.21 | Otixa | Well, I dunno how it's supposed to look |
| 19:06.25 | Otixa | So looks fine to me |
| 19:06.27 | Otixa | Except ugly |
| 19:06.33 | Dresnia | :DDDD |
| 19:07.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster raydenuni (~raydenuni@adsl-69-231-119-248.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 19:07.13 | Otixa | smacks Dresnia |
| 19:07.25 | Otixa | You gonna be streaming today? ;p |
| 19:07.41 | Statharas | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/932170/Hive/likethis.png |
| 19:08.15 | StarDust | otixa |
| 19:08.29 | Otixa | mkay |
| 19:08.31 | StarDust | was it you who i showed my scoreboard to yesterday |
| 19:08.39 | Otixa | Prolly not |
| 19:08.40 | StarDust | and you said it was unreadable |
| 19:08.42 | StarDust | ah |
| 19:08.48 | Otixa | I do remember that tho |
| 19:09.02 | StarDust | anyways, check that and tell me what you think |
| 19:09.02 | StarDust | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=238325¤tpage=2 |
| 19:09.03 | Otixa | Think it was Nash |
| 19:09.41 | Otixa | Get rid of the glow on the colored background |
| 19:09.45 | Otixa | And make it darker |
| 19:09.56 | StarDust | what do you mean |
| 19:10.00 | StarDust | not clear enough? |
| 19:10.14 | Mildawg | hi, can anyone help? how do you get the upgrade button to display what level the upgrade is? |
| 19:10.15 | Otixa | Should be able to read it at a glance |
| 19:10.25 | Otixa | Purple is especially bad |
| 19:10.35 | StarDust | idk how I can make it better rly |
| 19:10.47 | Otixa | I just told you ;/ |
| 19:10.59 | StarDust | i think the glow is nice |
| 19:11.05 | StarDust | why dont you like it? |
| 19:11.21 | Otixa | Because it breaks the style set by the Blizz UI |
| 19:11.23 | Statharas | Otixa, did you see it? |
| 19:11.44 | StarDust | ah |
| 19:11.46 | Otixa | Statharas, yeh. Not entirely sure why it does that |
| 19:11.48 | StarDust | oh well |
| 19:11.56 | StarDust | ill see what i can do about that purple |
| 19:12.10 | Otixa | But I'm gonna go with "importing ancient gen models into current gen engines" |
| 19:12.45 | Statharas | wanna see the odel? |
| 19:12.48 | Statharas | model |
| 19:12.53 | Otixa | I did see the model |
| 19:13.55 | Statharas | i mean, the model file |
| 19:14.06 | Statharas | the max file |
| 19:14.37 | Otixa | nnnrghhhhhhhhhh |
| 19:14.38 | Otixa | fine |
| 19:15.56 | Otixa | Also, I can only open max2010 files |
| 19:16.24 | Statharas | same :p |
| 19:16.30 | Statharas | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/932170/Hive/sc2nearcher.max |
| 19:16.33 | Statharas | it's being uploaded |
| 19:17.13 | Dresnia | I'm bored |
| 19:17.16 | Dresnia | Someone amuse me. |
| 19:17.35 | Otixa | NoU amuse me |
| 19:17.42 | Dresnia | : - ) |
| 19:18.09 | Dresnia | btw is there any software worth looking into |
| 19:18.13 | Dresnia | outside drivers / windows |
| 19:18.19 | Dresnia | too improve your pc somehow or stuff |
| 19:18.38 | Otixa | notrly |
| 19:18.44 | Statharas | aaand it's up |
| 19:18.45 | Otixa | update the bios |
| 19:18.48 | Statharas | download it noe |
| 19:18.49 | Statharas | now |
| 19:18.58 | Dresnia | no idea how I could upload bios :/ |
| 19:19.05 | Otixa | Dresnia, did you get your new boxxen? |
| 19:19.12 | Dresnia | yea |
| 19:19.16 | Otixa | gz :D |
| 19:19.19 | Dresnia | thanks :) |
| 19:19.25 | Dresnia | went for that sandbridge thingy |
| 19:19.27 | Dresnia | 4.7ghz |
| 19:19.29 | Dresnia | at turbo |
| 19:19.33 | Dresnia | and a 570GTX |
| 19:19.39 | Statharas | Dresnia, try auslogics |
| 19:19.40 | Dresnia | and ssd/8gig and shizzle |
| 19:19.43 | Otixa | nice |
| 19:19.48 | Otixa | :D |
| 19:19.49 | Dresnia | yeah |
| 19:19.57 | Dresnia | 190fps on xtreme on sc2 |
| 19:20.13 | Dresnia | I also bought a 7.1 razer headset |
| 19:20.16 | Dresnia | sweet toy man |
| 19:20.31 | Otixa | :> |
| 19:20.34 | Dresnia | looking into a 27/30" full hd led monitor now |
| 19:20.40 | Dresnia | for mountin on the wall |
| 19:20.46 | Dresnia | and then this 24" on the side for msn etc |
| 19:20.52 | Dresnia | should be okay then for a while |
| 19:20.53 | Otixa | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.56 | Otixa | For epic render tiems |
| 19:21.05 | Dresnia | I could render for you ! haha |
| 19:21.46 | Dresnia | if this sandcore shit works like a 8cpu or so I hit 37.6ghz ? |
| 19:21.52 | Dresnia | or is it just a badass quad |
| 19:22.49 | Statharas | Otixa, did you look at it? |
| 19:23.24 | Otixa | Statharas, model seems fine, apart from some weird faces on the cape |
| 19:23.59 | Otixa | Could be that the unwelded verts are causing issues |
| 19:24.08 | Otixa | Since the model is broken up into 3825792837529835 subobjects |
| 19:24.14 | Statharas | anims are fine |
| 19:24.32 | Otixa | What do anims have to do with anything? ;/ |
| 19:25.35 | Otixa | Anyway |
| 19:25.44 | Statharas | they make it look better :v |
| 19:25.44 | Otixa | SC2 prolly doesn't like the model |
| 19:25.52 | Statharas | ye |
| 19:25.53 | Statharas | i figured |
| 19:26.02 | Otixa | It's too retarded for current gen |
| 19:26.09 | Otixa | Millions of subobjects |
| 19:26.15 | Otixa | Unwelded verts everywhere |
| 19:26.22 | Otixa | Everything and it's mom is intersecting |
| 19:26.25 | Otixa | Holes |
| 19:26.29 | Otixa | Weirdly facing normals |
| 19:26.39 | Otixa | etc |
| 19:27.13 | Statharas | ._. |
| 19:27.24 | Statharas | weirdly facing normals? |
| 19:27.32 | Otixa | On the cape there |
| 19:27.40 | Otixa | Around the shoulder |
| 19:27.43 | Statharas | Yeah |
| 19:27.44 | Statharas | i mean |
| 19:27.50 | Statharas | what are they |
| 19:28.13 | Otixa | They're... Weirdly facing normals |
| 19:28.19 | Otixa | They're facing the wrong side |
| 19:28.34 | Otixa | Altho, I guess you wouldn't be able to tell if you're using a 2sided shader |
| 19:28.42 | Otixa | So eh |
| 19:28.46 | Statharas | ah |
| 19:28.58 | Statharas | I'll look into it later |
| 19:29.04 | Statharas | i need to get ready to go out |
| 19:29.04 | XorioZ | was wondering what you would consider close-range, mid-range, and long-range? right now i'm setting long to everything above 9, mid-range to everything between 9 and 2 and close to everything below 2. this is ofcurse for weapon range :) |
| 19:29.52 | Otixa | XorioZ, close range means that I can stab you in the face :D |
| 19:30.04 | XorioZ | yea |
| 19:30.39 | XorioZ | but close-range also means you can set me on fire with a flame attack :) |
| 19:30.44 | XorioZ | ~~~~ |
| 19:30.44 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT xorioz!!! |
| 19:30.57 | XorioZ | what now? |
| 19:30.58 | Otixa | ^ |
| 19:31.03 | Otixa | purl hates you ;p |
| 19:31.14 | XorioZ | ehm? ok |
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| 19:31.58 | Otixa | Ugh |
| 19:31.59 | XorioZ | ~~~~ |
| 19:31.59 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT xorioz!!! |
| 19:32.02 | Otixa | Pretty sleepy |
| 19:32.07 | XorioZ | oh it's a bot :) |
| 19:32.18 | Otixa | no shit ;p |
| 19:33.06 | XorioZ | well how should i know that purl is a bot. i'm used to Q |
| 19:33.24 | Statharas | ~~~~ |
| 19:33.25 | purl | ARGH!!! STOP IT statharas!!! |
| 19:33.33 | XorioZ | ~ |
| 19:33.39 | Statharas | I know it hurts, but you can stand it |
| 19:33.45 | Otixa | ~stab XorioZ |
| 19:33.45 | purl | ACTION runs at XorioZ with an origami Swiss Army knife, and inflicts a nasty paper cut. |
| 19:33.59 | XorioZ | shit man |
| 19:34.01 | Dresnia | http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/8605/dsc01038ha.jpg |
| 19:34.14 | XorioZ | ~hit Otixa |
| 19:34.14 | purl | ACTION punches Otixa. |
| 19:34.22 | Otixa | Dresnia, nice :D |
| 19:34.25 | Otixa | evades |
| 19:34.35 | Dresnia | under the box from the headset |
| 19:34.38 | Dresnia | is 1k in cash |
| 19:34.40 | Dresnia | 'hidden' |
| 19:34.41 | Dresnia | :p |
| 19:34.44 | Dynast | ~seduce XorioZ |
| 19:34.49 | Otixa | :P |
| 19:34.49 | Dynast | WUT? There's no ~seduce!? |
| 19:34.52 | Dynast | BLASPHEMY. |
| 19:35.09 | XorioZ | holy shit Dres. what's up with your mouse? |
| 19:35.34 | Dresnia | hmm ? |
| 19:35.38 | Dresnia | It's a Razer Naga |
| 19:35.43 | XorioZ | ~kick Dynast |
| 19:35.44 | purl | ACTION kicks Dynast |
| 19:35.56 | Dynast | ~hug XorioZ |
| 19:35.56 | purl | ACTION hugs XorioZ |
| 19:35.57 | Dynast | .. was |
| 19:35.59 | Dresnia | it's also my razer headset/7.1 sound thingy laying next too it |
| 19:36.01 | Dynast | woo. worked. |
| 19:36.07 | XorioZ | yea but what the hell would you use all those buttons for? |
| 19:36.16 | Dresnia | a friend gave it to me for my b-day |
| 19:36.18 | Otixa | MMO mouse ;p |
| 19:36.20 | Dresnia | he told me it's good for mmo's |
| 19:36.26 | Dresnia | but I'm a RDFG mmo player so bleh |
| 19:36.27 | Dynast | lawl |
| 19:36.30 | Dresnia | RDFG owns ANY setup |
| 19:36.43 | Dynast | RDFG? |
| 19:36.45 | Dynast | You lost me. |
| 19:36.53 | XorioZ | using rdfg to move. |
| 19:36.54 | Dynast | Can I have that in words? :) |
| 19:37.04 | Dresnia | keybinding : 123456789AZEQSD<WXCVTYHVBNYH + alt-123456789AZEQSD<WXCVTYHVBNYH + ctrl-123456789AZEQSD<WXCVTYHVBNYH |
| 19:37.20 | Dresnia | nothing provides more keys then rdfg ! |
| 19:37.27 | Dresnia | + a big ass manly hand |
| 19:37.28 | Dresnia | lol |
| 19:37.56 | Dresnia | oh also ² and tab ofc |
| 19:38.01 | Dynast | I'm used to my left hand being on ASDF and pinky hovering between A and shift. |
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| 19:38.12 | Dynast | Right hand, jkl and shift. |
| 19:38.14 | hawker | AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
| 19:38.15 | Dresnia | my mouse got 18buttons I think. |
| 19:38.18 | hawker | MAP IS CORRUPTED |
| 19:38.23 | Dynast | hawker: ONOES! D: |
| 19:38.24 | Dresnia | but it's the same as 1234.. on your keyboard |
| 19:38.31 | Dresnia | so it's kinda a numpad pasted on a mouse |
| 19:38.34 | Otixa | WASD > you |
| 19:38.37 | Dresnia | then they call it 'more keybinds' |
| 19:38.41 | Dynast | Dresnia: wat... |
| 19:38.42 | Dresnia | azerty keyboard |
| 19:38.50 | Dynast | azerty keyboard? |
| 19:38.57 | Dynast | 0.o |
| 19:38.58 | Dresnia | I'm Belgian (Dutch) |
| 19:39.04 | Dynast | No dvorak? |
| 19:39.04 | Dresnia | it's all azerty here |
| 19:39.13 | Dynast | heh |
| 19:39.14 | Dynast | . |
| 19:39.20 | Dynast | Where'd your qw go? |
| 19:39.27 | Dresnia | where your a & z go |
| 19:39.45 | Dresnia | my 3 lines are A / Q / W |
| 19:39.48 | Dresnia | at first letter |
| 19:39.49 | Dynast | azerty has more syllables. :( |
| 19:39.59 | hawker | anything can do if map is corrupted? |
| 19:39.59 | XorioZ | qwerty |
| 19:40.02 | Dynast | qwer ty |
| 19:40.03 | Dynast | az er ty |
| 19:40.05 | Dynast | :( |
| 19:40.07 | hawker | ran repair tool to no avail |
| 19:40.20 | Dresnia | azerty is fine, but it sucks for stuff like.. well most custom maps got WASD |
| 19:40.28 | XorioZ | qwertyuiopåäsdfghjklæø'zxcvbnm,.- |
| 19:40.31 | Dynast | lol |
| 19:40.33 | Dresnia | try playing wasd, but replace the A with the Q |
| 19:40.35 | Dresnia | its bleh |
| 19:40.38 | Dynast | Do a keyboard remap for them |
| 19:41.07 | Statharas | xD |
| 19:41.13 | Dynast | replace z/w and a/q on comp for map |
| 19:41.19 | Dynast | then undo after ;-) |
| 19:42.11 | Dresnia | so did u see my picture btw ? |
| 19:42.13 | Dynast | or just remap them to fit rdfg :P |
| 19:42.15 | Dresnia | how you like my case |
| 19:43.00 | Otixa | it sux!11one |
| 19:43.02 | Otixa | :D |
| 19:44.02 | Dresnia | :) |
| 19:50.54 | hawker | So, anything to do if map is corrupted |
| 19:51.04 | hawker | Besides repair too |
| 19:51.04 | hawker | l |
| 19:51.08 | hawker | *tool |
| 19:52.30 | hawker | :( |
| 19:53.43 | hawker | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
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| 20:11.32 | CryptRat | If I want to make a unit like the Zergling wander around like critters do, is there an easy way to make that change? |
| 20:11.48 | CryptRat | The only behavior I could find on critters was Crittersplode. |
| 20:12.16 | CryptRat | JademusSreg, do you know? :) |
| 20:13.10 | CryptRat | Maybe it's the AI Evaluation field? But I don't know if that would still work for player-controlled units. |
| 20:18.19 | CryptRat | I got it! :D |
| 20:19.13 | XorioZ | Dialogs dialogs dialogs. |
| 20:22.59 | Mildawg | hi, can anyone help? how do you get the upgrade button to display what level the upgrade is? |
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| 20:32.13 | Dresnia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Rb4_Y1IhYI&feature=feedu |
| 20:32.14 | Dresnia | hahaha |
| 20:37.06 | Otixa | Dresnia, epic :D |
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| 20:43.33 | Dresnia | I'm curious when GW2 is out |
| 20:43.37 | Dresnia | anyone has a clue ? |
| 20:44.42 | CryptRat | Mildawg, I think you have to have the upgrade change the ability's button. I think there's a field for that. |
| 20:45.22 | Mildawg | so the number is actually on the button graphic? |
| 20:45.22 | CryptRat | But it might be that you have to have 10 separate upgrades if you have 10 different levels. |
| 20:45.38 | CryptRat | Is the button image a number? |
| 20:45.46 | CryptRat | or are you talking about the name or the price? |
| 20:45.51 | Mildawg | on infested arena every upgrade has a number relating to the level |
| 20:45.56 | Mildawg | the actual button |
| 20:46.14 | Mildawg | but some of these upgrades run to about level 50 and theres loads of them, seems like a lot of work |
| 20:46.19 | CryptRat | I can't recall. I'd guess they have that many different upgrades. |
| 20:46.43 | CryptRat | It might be a lot of work, but if it looks better than the alternative... |
| 20:47.00 | Mildawg | I just thought that maybe there was an option to display upgrade level |
| 20:47.16 | CryptRat | Plenty of those Elite forces maps don't go that route and end up with ugly UI. |
| 20:47.36 | CryptRat | Though they are constrained by the fact that you're all sharing a single structure for upgrades afaik. |
| 20:48.09 | CryptRat | There might be a way to do a switch in the upgrade that changes the button without the use of multiple upgrades. |
| 20:48.11 | CryptRat | Dunno. |
| 20:48.17 | Mildawg | yeah |
| 20:48.26 | Mildawg | i was just interested in getting the number displayed |
| 20:48.32 | Mildawg | no worries |
| 20:48.36 | Mildawg | thanks for responding |
| 20:49.07 | CryptRat | Depending on what you were upgrading you could use the little number box in the weapon/armor field |
| 20:49.23 | CryptRat | that number is irrelevant to anything and is just there for show |
| 20:49.25 | Mildawg | I need it in the command card really |
| 20:49.30 | CryptRat | kk |
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| 20:57.03 | XorioZ | ~bot |
| 20:57.03 | purl | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 20:57.56 | Vail|here | hello folks sorry i didnt change my status before leaving |
| 20:58.03 | XorioZ | np |
| 20:58.07 | Vail|here | but now im here |
| 20:58.09 | XorioZ | my head hurts |
| 20:58.16 | XorioZ | :( |
| 20:58.17 | Vail|here | i saw Transformers 3 todasy |
| 20:58.24 | XorioZ | damn dialogs wont do as i pleas |
| 20:58.30 | XorioZ | nice |
| 20:58.32 | Vail|here | bummer |
| 20:58.44 | Vail|here | and yeah its pretty good |
| 20:58.47 | XorioZ | not that good eh? |
| 20:59.08 | Vail|here | i ment about the dialogs |
| 20:59.14 | XorioZ | oh |
| 20:59.52 | Vail|here | i just now had a thought...can we draw an actor on the screen overlay? |
| 21:00.49 | XorioZ | i'm trying to make a proper dialog setup for our hero selection screen but for some reason it wont write the data from my hero record. have tried testing it by writing out the data as a text mesage and that works just fine. |
| 21:00.54 | XorioZ | DAMINT |
| 21:00.55 | XorioZ | hmm |
| 21:01.05 | XorioZ | actualy i have no idea |
| 21:01.23 | Vail|here | let me look at somethings |
| 21:01.34 | XorioZ | haven't even started looking into the layerd commandcard you wanted. |
| 21:02.25 | XorioZ | have been working on refining mydialog toolset / constants and records for rewards / objectives / heroes. |
| 21:03.48 | Vail|here | thats cool get the important things on the list first |
| 21:04.29 | Vail|here | if i knew how to change the UI my self i would make a map featuring it |
| 21:06.03 | XorioZ | making custom UI is a bit wird / fiddly. |
| 21:06.34 | XorioZ | I'm adding a Range field to the hero selection. was wondering what you would consider close-range, mid-range, and long-range? |
| 21:08.51 | Dresnia | http://www.domusmortem.net/ will he kill the kittun Nash|327 |
| 21:09.52 | Vail|here | not sure really i know .5 or so is general melee range so that could be close 1 to 5 would be good mid range and anything after fire could be long range for now |
| 21:09.59 | Dresnia | goodnight all |
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| 21:19.47 | Birdie_ | Any koreans here? |
| 21:19.49 | Vail|here | could some one point me a tutorial on the current blizz aproved method of changing the ui |
| 21:20.05 | Birdie_ | Go to mapster and search for helral |
| 21:20.28 | Birdie_ | There's even a forum section dedicated to it on mapster D: |
| 21:25.02 | Vail|here | yes ive been looking on mapster |
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| 21:50.21 | HeyRevolver | is there a condition to check to see if the player has activated said trigger before? |
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| 21:54.43 | CryptRat | Is there any way to change the hostility coloration? |
| 21:54.54 | CryptRat | I want neutral units to show up as red, not cyan. |
| 21:55.35 | CryptRat | (And they must be neutral because they have to be pushable.) |
| 21:56.52 | Statharas | https://profiles.google.com/u/0/ :D |
| 21:57.03 | Statharas | you can enter google+ with it :D |
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| 22:29.28 | RndmObjcts | can anyone explain to me or link me to a tutorial on chosing the image you want shown in a dialog? |
| 22:29.35 | RndmObjcts | choosing* |
| 22:30.44 | hawker_ | Anyone know what to do if your map is corrupted? |
| 22:31.18 | hawker_ | Besides start over |
| 22:34.05 | Vail|here | try breaking it apart with an mpq editor and slavaging what you can? |
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| 22:36.12 | Dustin | RndmObjcts |
| 22:36.25 | Dustin | Just make a dialog item (image) for a dialog |
| 22:36.26 | RndmObjcts | ? |
| 22:36.52 | RndmObjcts | yea i figured it out, although im wrong on what i need it to be, im trying to get my units wireframe into a dialog |
| 22:37.00 | Dustin | You cant |
| 22:37.01 | RndmObjcts | but im a nub and need to keep trying stuff i suppose lol |
| 22:37.07 | RndmObjcts | >.> |
| 22:37.07 | Dustin | You can move the main UI frame around |
| 22:37.11 | RndmObjcts | nash did |
| 22:37.18 | Dustin | But you need to use Custom Layout Files |
| 22:37.40 | RndmObjcts | yea i have that already |
| 22:37.54 | RndmObjcts | i wish i still had the picture he posted in here lol.. |
| 22:38.14 | Dustin | Just hide the background and move it over your ingame dialog |
| 22:39.13 | RndmObjcts | well yes that would work but i want to make something like he did, it was just really clean and didnt look like i just moved the info panel over an empty dialog xD |
| 22:39.37 | Dustin | There's not a whole lot else he could have done |
| 22:40.05 | Dustin | I mean you can customize the background dialog |
| 22:40.30 | Dustin | But I guess I don't know what you're talking about if you'r thinking there's something else to it. |
| 22:41.03 | RndmObjcts | yea i wish i had the link to the picture he posted |
| 22:41.19 | RndmObjcts | its basically the wireframe over the info panel but much more clean than it sounds |
| 22:41.31 | Dustin | that doesnt sound not clean though |
| 22:42.01 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: NASHHHHHH post the dialog frame picture again >.> i hace kittens.. bagged and tagged! |
| 22:42.33 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: dialog with the wireframe and info panel in it picture** and have** |
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| 22:46.39 | RndmObjcts | yea i dont know how he did it or how to explain it but it was clean |
| 22:50.51 | Dustin | What was clean about it |
| 22:50.58 | Dustin | Sounds like it was just moved over a dialog item |
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| 22:51.49 | Xan | Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 22:56.11 | RndmObjcts | Dustin: its hard to explain.. the next time i see him online and active i'll ask him to post it again and save it and show you the next time i see you |
| 23:03.04 | Dustin | kk |
| 23:05.44 | Xan | sup yall |
| 23:10.33 | StarDust | anyone knows how to prevent slots to be set to AI in lobby? |
| 23:11.08 | StarDust | i been trying to find out for a while |
| 23:14.17 | XorioZ | yo Xan |
| 23:14.32 | Xan | yoo |
| 23:15.39 | Xan | sup |
| 23:15.54 | XorioZ | Are you at a point in terrain making that you feel comfortable to upload it to the team forum. then vail can start the first merger. |
| 23:16.17 | Xan | barely finished the zerg part |
| 23:16.26 | Xan | so I dont see point |
| 23:16.30 | Xan | :) |
| 23:16.51 | XorioZ | hmm. |
| 23:17.08 | XorioZ | Vail|here. what you think? |
| 23:17.22 | XorioZ | i can still do the trigger stuff from here |
| 23:18.08 | Xan | I could send it, but I dont see what good it'd do, if you can test it on a blank map as well |
| 23:18.09 | Vail|here | i can keep working on what im working on |
| 23:18.28 | XorioZ | so if you are fine with continuing as is we can do the merger when Xan is done with the terrain |
| 23:18.32 | XorioZ | k |
| 23:18.36 | Vail|here | ok |
| 23:18.42 | Xan | alright |
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| 23:20.36 | Xan__ | weird, lost internet connection for a second |
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| 23:57.35 | HeyRevolver | anyone had success with removing an item from your inventory once it is used if it grants an ability with only 1 charge? |
