| 00:00.54 | Nash|327 | actor |
| 00:00.59 | Nash|327 | UI section |
| 00:01.07 | Nash|327 | status bar thingy |
| 00:07.20 | Ashamed | erg i cant believe the site is still dwon |
| 00:07.30 | Ashamed | :( what am i suppose to do at work |
| 00:07.37 | Ashamed | if i can browse through the forums |
| 00:07.40 | Nash|327 | ...work? |
| 00:07.55 | Ashamed | nash |
| 00:07.56 | Ashamed | i will kill |
| 00:07.56 | Ashamed | you |
| 00:08.03 | Nash|327 | fuck off |
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| 00:08.13 | Ashamed | NOU MOTHER FUCKER |
| 00:08.14 | SoulTaker916__ | NASH |
| 00:08.19 | Ashamed | Nash isn't here |
| 00:08.20 | SoulTaker916__ | omg |
| 00:08.20 | Nash|327 | I murder you with kittuns |
| 00:08.20 | Ashamed | he is afk |
| 00:08.27 | Ashamed | ... fucken nash |
| 00:08.29 | Ashamed | i tried to have your back |
| 00:08.30 | SoulTaker916__ | NASHY |
| 00:08.33 | Ashamed | but you said something |
| 00:08.43 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 00:08.54 | SoulTaker916__ | do u guys realize u do the same dumb shit every day? |
| 00:08.58 | SoulTaker916__ | <----self included |
| 00:09.05 | Ashamed | ................................................... |
| 00:09.10 | SoulTaker916__ | i relalize we r borign people |
| 00:09.15 | Ashamed | no ¿ |
| 00:09.31 | Ashamed | Yes? |
| 00:09.32 | Ashamed | mby so |
| 00:09.34 | Ashamed | i dunno |
| 00:09.39 | Ashamed | !!! AHHH I AM CONFUSED |
| 00:09.46 | Ashamed | FU NASH |
| 00:09.57 | Nash|327 | HAH. |
| 00:10.14 | Triceron | I don't do the same dumb shit every day! |
| 00:10.22 | Triceron | I do DIFFERENT dumb shit every day. |
| 00:10.22 | Ashamed | he does differnt dumb shit! |
| 00:10.25 | Ashamed | LOL |
| 00:11.08 | SoulTaker916__ | lol.. |
| 00:11.24 | SoulTaker916__ | d |
| 00:11.45 | Ashamed | rmber when the mods actually tried to moderate the channel? |
| 00:11.53 | Triceron | no |
| 00:11.53 | Nash|327 | no |
| 00:11.58 | SoulTaker916__ | no |
| 00:11.58 | Ashamed | i do :P |
| 00:12.01 | Ashamed | it was a while ago |
| 00:12.03 | Ashamed | durring beta |
| 00:12.03 | Triceron | ur old |
| 00:12.06 | Ashamed | G00D |
| 00:12.20 | Ashamed | nicholos or w/e was the worse |
| 00:12.27 | Ashamed | but we found common ground |
| 00:12.29 | Ashamed | and he stopped :) |
| 00:12.35 | SoulTaker916__ | someone ping me |
| 00:12.36 | SoulTaker916__ | plz |
| 00:12.56 | Ashamed | i wonder what happened to him if he is still around? |
| 00:13.29 | SoulTaker916__ | the website is dead |
| 00:13.36 | SoulTaker916__ | why r we all still here? |
| 00:13.49 | Ashamed | yeah i bet mapster was taken down |
| 00:13.54 | Ashamed | we are like ... ok any day |
| 00:14.09 | SoulTaker916__ | yep |
| 00:14.21 | SoulTaker916__ | blame it on some bird eggs and a harddrive |
| 00:14.21 | Ashamed | it has been down for along ass time |
| 00:14.30 | SoulTaker916__ | jams it up every time |
| 00:16.10 | Ashamed | hmmm what to do tonight |
| 00:16.19 | Ashamed | i get ou tof hell in 1 hour and 45 minutes |
| 00:16.32 | Triceron | ugh, rendered out the video and it looked all blurry :S |
| 00:16.40 | Triceron | gotta try different settings... |
| 00:16.56 | A1win | increase bitrate ;p |
| 00:17.07 | SoulTaker916__ | increase this dick |
| 00:17.29 | Triceron | Soultaker likes dicks, he just admitted it. |
| 00:17.56 | SoulTaker916__ | i do |
| 00:17.58 | SoulTaker916__ | its a curse |
| 00:18.00 | SoulTaker916__ | :( |
| 00:18.24 | Triceron | I hate waiting for renders >_< |
| 00:19.05 | A1win | it's not called rendering, it's compressing ;p |
| 00:19.54 | Triceron | yeah that |
| 00:20.32 | A1win | but yeah, I keep waiting for my videos to compress too even though I could be something else meanwhile :P |
| 00:21.42 | Triceron | my comp's too old to multitask much else |
| 00:26.00 | Triceron | ew, now 10 minute upload for a 30mb file :S |
| 00:26.57 | A1win | how long video is that? |
| 00:27.28 | A1win | the one I just uploaded was about 40 MB for a couple of minutes in 1080p D: |
| 00:28.23 | SoulTaker916__ | hey |
| 00:28.29 | SoulTaker916__ | how do i enforce a timer? |
| 00:28.29 | Ashamed | yeah i had one that was like 1gb |
| 00:28.33 | SoulTaker916__ | above a unit |
| 00:28.34 | Ashamed | for 3 minutes of 1080p |
| 00:28.35 | SoulTaker916__ | via triggers |
| 00:28.49 | Brainshack | you mean a text tag counting smthg? |
| 00:28.55 | A1win | Ashamed, :P compression ftw |
| 00:28.56 | SoulTaker916__ | kinda |
| 00:29.02 | SoulTaker916__ | liek when u build a building |
| 00:29.02 | Ashamed | yeah -.- |
| 00:29.03 | Brainshack | well |
| 00:29.07 | SoulTaker916__ | the time bar |
| 00:29.12 | SoulTaker916__ | which action is it? |
| 00:29.19 | Brainshack | thats an ability castbar i think |
| 00:29.23 | Triceron | 30mb for 30s |
| 00:29.27 | A1win | I don't think you can create them with triggers |
| 00:29.42 | SoulTaker916__ | ya jade was talking about it |
| 00:29.45 | Brainshack | lol castbar |
| 00:29.50 | Brainshack | im so wow infected still |
| 00:29.51 | Brainshack | t.t |
| 00:30.10 | Brainshack | dunno how to |
| 00:30.23 | Brainshack | but i guess its anchored somewhere in the data editor xD |
| 00:30.25 | Brainshack | no triggers |
| 00:31.05 | Triceron | what format do you usually use Ashamed? |
| 00:33.31 | A1win | I downloaded xvid encoder a while back, seems pretty neat for compressing avis |
| 00:35.59 | SoulTaker916__ | ha |
| 00:36.02 | SoulTaker916__ | i remebered |
| 00:36.06 | SoulTaker916__ | thay use it in campain |
| 00:36.17 | SoulTaker916__ | in the map were u got to go stop the nydus worms |
| 00:37.00 | Triceron | ugh, I feel like a dumbass |
| 00:37.06 | Triceron | I used the wrong aspect ratio |
| 00:37.16 | A1win | :> |
| 00:38.00 | Nash|327 | Dumbass! |
| 00:38.30 | Triceron | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOB059Q9_Gc |
| 00:38.34 | A1win | dum-dum-dum goes the bass, dum-dum-dum it's the dum-bass |
| 00:40.28 | Triceron | hmm, maybe it wasn't wrong. I guess it was just youtube processing. |
| 00:42.48 | mapman_ | if anyone knows how to exclude a specific un it type in the function unit in unit group matching condition |
| 00:42.57 | mapman_ | well...share it with me :) |
| 00:45.35 | A1win | pick each unit in unit group matching condition: if unit type == whatever { do whatever, like add the unit to another unit group, or something } |
| 00:46.01 | Nash|327 | use unit filters? |
| 00:46.15 | A1win | unit filters don't have unit types in them |
| 00:46.33 | Nash|327 | No, but depending on situation, type may not be necessary. |
| 00:46.41 | A1win | mm |
| 00:48.09 | Nash|327 | the alternative is to create a copy of the unit group |
| 00:48.38 | Nash|327 | remove all units of the specific type from the copy using units in unit group matching condition |
| 00:48.58 | Nash|327 | THEN run your desired units in unit group matching condition on the copy |
| 00:49.45 | A1win | well... remove the unneeded from the copy, or add the wanted to an empty group.. same result in the end |
| 00:50.13 | Nash|327 | Indeed. |
| 00:51.07 | Nash|327 | And as you can't pick all EXCEPT unit type by unit type, only pick JUST unit type... |
| 00:51.26 | Nash|327 | The copy thing is the only way. :G |
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| 01:02.41 | Triceron | damn mapster still down :( |
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| 01:24.38 | Vail | i am returned |
| 01:26.17 | Rnuomer | yay |
| 01:27.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster SoulTaker916___ (~SoulTaker@c-24-6-14-83.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 01:30.31 | SoulTaker916_ | vail |
| 01:30.36 | SoulTaker916_ | wake up |
| 01:30.39 | Vail | thats me, |
| 01:30.43 | SoulTaker916_ | *summons Vail* |
| 01:30.45 | Vail | the one and only |
| 01:30.55 | SoulTaker916_ | 1st how do u do the action thing |
| 01:31.01 | Vail | sorry i was gone i had tech support to do for family |
| 01:31.09 | Vail | action thing? |
| 01:31.16 | SoulTaker916_ | <-----talk with out this guy |
| 01:31.28 | SoulTaker916_ | u know *only this here* |
| 01:31.34 | SoulTaker916_ | *soultaker is noob* |
| 01:31.43 | Vail | you use /me at the front of what ever |
| 01:31.54 | Vail | uses /me |
| 01:32.06 | SoulTaker916_ | bitching |
| 01:32.09 | Brainshack | scratches his balls |
| 01:32.13 | SoulTaker916_ | ok |
| 01:32.16 | SoulTaker916_ | next |
| 01:32.23 | SoulTaker916_ | im trying to do the cooldown using trigger |
| 01:32.28 | SoulTaker916_ | that jade was yapping about |
| 01:32.30 | SoulTaker916_ | yesterday |
| 01:32.37 | Vail | hmm |
| 01:32.37 | SoulTaker916_ | but i was looking throught the sc2 maps |
| 01:32.40 | SoulTaker916_ | cant find it |
| 01:32.54 | Vail | no clue my self sorry i dont know triggers |
| 01:34.06 | SoulTaker916_ | omg.. |
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| 01:54.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster Voisin (46e2d5d1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.226.213.209) |
| 01:55.12 | Voisin | ....and i return. |
| 01:55.47 | Vail | hey |
| 01:56.21 | Voisin | hi. anything fun happening? |
| 01:58.03 | Vail | not really its kinda silent |
| 01:58.33 | Voisin | so i've noticed. |
| 02:06.33 | Voisin | bored..... |
| 02:08.09 | Vail | me too |
| 02:11.18 | Vail | grah looks like the best way to merge these files is manually sigh |
| 02:14.40 | Brainshack | hm there are rumors out that cure might have been hacked? |
| 02:15.14 | Brainshack | http://antivirus.about.com/b/2011/06/22/curse-com-ad-on-woes.htm |
| 02:16.50 | Vail | any one know of a good XML merge tool that is preferably free? |
| 02:17.05 | Brainshack | notepad |
| 02:17.12 | Brainshack | or for the geeks |
| 02:17.16 | Brainshack | notepad++ |
| 02:17.17 | Brainshack | :D |
| 02:19.02 | Brainshack | ntl |
| 02:19.05 | Brainshack | gnight |
| 02:19.08 | *** part/#sc2mapster Brainshack (~Christian@dslb-178-009-155-255.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 02:19.12 | Vail | hmm |
| 02:21.09 | Otixa | coughs his lungs out and plays with em |
| 02:21.53 | IDEATH | notepad and notepad++ are completely different programs... |
| 02:22.05 | IDEATH | LOL |
| 02:22.07 | Otixa | They both suck tho ;p |
| 02:22.15 | IDEATH | nah not really |
| 02:22.23 | Otixa | hits IDEATH with his lungs |
| 02:22.41 | Otixa | Using a proper IDE > shitty cookie cutter |
| 02:22.56 | Vail | what then would you suggest? |
| 02:23.14 | Otixa | For? ;P |
| 02:23.15 | IDEATH | ROFL |
| 02:23.23 | Vail | merging xml files |
| 02:23.26 | IDEATH | EWW! their so slimy! |
| 02:23.41 | Otixa | Some sort of script/app :B |
| 02:23.55 | Vail | no ya think... |
| 02:24.06 | Otixa | That does it automagically, that is |
| 02:24.06 | Vail | thats what im looking for |
| 02:24.11 | Otixa | Code one |
| 02:24.13 | Otixa | Derp |
| 02:24.20 | Vail | yeah you code one |
| 02:24.29 | Otixa | k |
| 02:24.30 | Otixa | pay me :D |
| 02:24.38 | Vail | f you |
| 02:24.45 | Otixa | chuckles |
| 02:26.08 | Otixa | I'm bored now ¬¬ |
| 02:28.17 | Vail | good |
| 02:29.09 | Otixa | Should prolly finish the CSS... |
| 02:29.13 | Otixa | groans |
| 02:29.17 | Otixa | ...Or sleep... |
| 02:30.09 | Nash|327 | Or die in a fire? |
| 02:30.13 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 02:30.19 | Otixa | No, that's for you ;P |
| 02:30.24 | Nash|327 | Lies. |
| 02:30.36 | Otixa | Truths! |
| 02:30.41 | Nash|327 | Lies. |
| 02:31.40 | Nash|327 | Otixalies |
| 02:32.49 | HoldsNoConfirmat | hello? |
| 02:32.54 | Abstruse | ;lkdjcx |
| 02:33.05 | Nash|327 | trollface |
| 02:33.06 | Otixa | lies |
| 02:33.11 | Abstruse | Whatup |
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| 02:35.28 | Otixa | CSS3! |
| 02:35.50 | Otixa | Making a shitty voting system for kicks and giggles ;p |
| 02:36.21 | Statharas | i am punching myself |
| 02:36.27 | Statharas | i can't export the freaking model |
| 02:36.28 | Statharas | D: |
| 02:36.37 | Otixa | gloats |
| 02:36.45 | Otixa | Export from where? ;p |
| 02:37.35 | Statharas | 3DS max |
| 02:38.14 | Otixa | Using NiN's tools? |
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| 02:38.14 | Otixa | Also, show |
| 02:38.32 | Triceron | you made sure your model is Editable Mesh? |
| 02:38.44 | Otixa | ^ |
| 02:38.59 | Otixa | And uses SC2 shader |
| 02:39.26 | Vail | man merging this is a pain in the fricken ass |
| 02:39.27 | Otixa | suspects that Triceron highlights on "model" |
| 02:40.28 | Otixa | my snot is red |
| 02:40.31 | Otixa | Is that bad? ;p |
| 02:40.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster Lilianna (~Lilianna@adsl-75-15-117-51.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 02:41.09 | Otixa | smacks Lilianna |
| 02:41.18 | Lilianna | Wah |
| 02:41.20 | Lilianna | Rude |
| 02:41.27 | Otixa | Ofcourse ;p |
| 02:41.33 | Otixa | Been a while |
| 02:41.37 | Lilianna | Yups |
| 02:41.48 | Otixa | You never said hi >;[ |
| 02:41.51 | Otixa | leans on his scythe |
| 02:41.52 | Lilianna | HI |
| 02:41.56 | Otixa | Hai ;P |
| 02:41.59 | Lilianna | :P |
| 02:42.17 | Otixa | Moar ModCraft soon-ish! |
| 02:42.34 | Lilianna | >.> |
| 02:42.40 | Lilianna | I havent done anything in SC2 in a while |
| 02:42.45 | Otixa | With a few changes >> |
| 02:42.47 | Otixa | Same ;p |
| 02:42.49 | Triceron | Otixa, check it out |
| 02:42.54 | Triceron | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOB059Q9_Gc |
| 02:43.10 | Lilianna | I did this though. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27013305/Noise.jpg |
| 02:43.46 | Otixa | gj Triceron :D |
| 02:43.49 | Otixa | They're awesome |
| 02:43.55 | Otixa | Post wires of the hooded guys |
| 02:43.57 | Otixa | kthx |
| 02:44.07 | Lilianna | Medihv! |
| 02:44.14 | Otixa | Lilianna, that's java! Wai? D: |
| 02:44.30 | Lilianna | Becuse I can! :p |
| 02:44.34 | Otixa | xD |
| 02:44.42 | Otixa | Also |
| 02:44.51 | Otixa | ModCraft Season 2 will be on UDK ;P |
| 02:44.59 | Otixa | ...Because we can |
| 02:45.05 | Otixa | ...And it sucks less... |
| 02:45.10 | Otixa | coughs |
| 02:45.20 | Otixa | coughs lungs out again |
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| 02:46.24 | Otixa | smacks HeyRevolver |
| 02:46.36 | Nash|327 | Otixa smells bad |
| 02:46.39 | HeyRevolver | jiggles like jello |
| 02:46.40 | Otixa | This almost feels like a year ago now ;p |
| 02:46.49 | Otixa | punts Nash|327 |
| 02:46.54 | HeyRevolver | its been 9-10 months lol |
| 02:47.04 | Otixa | more or less ;p |
| 02:47.07 | HeyRevolver | since we had out emote wars |
| 02:47.17 | HeyRevolver | The greatemote wars of 2010 |
| 02:47.23 | Otixa | xD |
| 02:47.24 | Nash|327 | Otixa smells awful |
| 02:47.35 | HeyRevolver | sniffs the air for the Otixa armoa |
| 02:47.36 | Otixa | fs |
| 02:47.41 | Otixa | Tric GTFO'd without posting wires |
| 02:47.42 | HeyRevolver | aroma* |
| 02:48.04 | Otixa | coughs on HeyRevolver |
| 02:48.14 | Otixa | Now you're sick too ;D |
| 02:48.17 | Otixa | Enjoy :> |
| 02:48.32 | HeyRevolver | Otixa youre good with models.. so my merc siege tank in my map, I made it big, and its big in reg mode and siege mode, but the animation between modes switches to its small size, how does fix |
| 02:48.55 | Otixa | Uhh |
| 02:48.56 | HeyRevolver | and my sister already got me sick =( |
| 02:49.01 | Lilianna | Otixa, that picture is only a test for what Im actually doing! |
| 02:49.15 | Otixa | Lilianna, what ARE you doing? ;p |
| 02:49.18 | Lilianna | and I havent decided what language I want to use for the renderer |
| 02:49.24 | Lilianna | Making a world generator! |
| 02:49.26 | Otixa | HeyRevolver, not entirely sure ._. How'd you scale it? |
| 02:49.38 | Otixa | Lilianna, don't use java. Try XNA |
| 02:49.48 | HeyRevolver | from .9 to 1.37 and from 1 to 1.27 |
| 02:49.54 | Otixa | No but like |
| 02:49.56 | Otixa | Using Max? |
| 02:50.03 | HeyRevolver | no the max min scale |
| 02:50.06 | Lilianna | All Im doing is making a large data file :o |
| 02:50.08 | Lilianna | for the world gen |
| 02:50.23 | HeyRevolver | holy crap Lili, I remember your first icon, haveyou made more since then? |
| 02:50.31 | Otixa | HeyRevolver, dunno then. See if there are other places you can change it related to the animation |
| 02:50.35 | Lilianna | Icon? wat? |
| 02:50.46 | HeyRevolver | wasntthatyou making an icon pack like 10 months ago? |
| 02:50.50 | HeyRevolver | Thank you Otixa |
| 02:51.04 | Otixa | Think that was Demonette |
| 02:51.04 | Statharas | SC2 Shader? |
| 02:51.06 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 02:51.14 | HeyRevolver | oh yeah it was Demonette |
| 02:51.19 | Lilianna | Yah I dont make icons :o |
| 02:51.24 | HeyRevolver | oops sorry |
| 02:51.25 | Nash|327 | lawl "they all look the same to me" |
| 02:51.27 | Lilianna | also, is XNA cross platform? |
| 02:51.37 | Otixa | Statharas, I'd link you to my article but mapster is down and I cba explaining it ;p |
| 02:51.44 | HeyRevolver | Nash all i see is lips and a pair of titties |
| 02:51.45 | Otixa | Lilianna, Windoze and Xbox >> |
| 02:51.56 | Nash|327 | That's awful. |
| 02:51.57 | Lilianna | Yah no. :P |
| 02:51.58 | Statharas | pweeeeeeeeeeeze? |
| 02:51.59 | HeyRevolver | lol |
| 02:52.11 | HeyRevolver | i justkid |
| 02:52.12 | Nash|327 | You need your penis removed. |
| 02:52.21 | HeyRevolver | why because i like to use i? |
| 02:52.23 | HeyRevolver | it* |
| 02:52.26 | Nash|327 | Yes. |
| 02:52.27 | Lilianna | I might try playing with HTML5 though |
| 02:52.34 | Lilianna | for a viewer, it crossed my mind |
| 02:52.37 | Otixa | Statharas, fs. In the Max material editor change the material type from standard to StarCraft II |
| 02:52.40 | HeyRevolver | No you should have yours removed for not wanting to use it |
| 02:52.50 | Otixa | Lilianna, OH OH! Try WebGL! |
| 02:52.55 | HeyRevolver | you need to grow a pair |
| 02:53.02 | Statharas | oh |
| 02:53.04 | Otixa | It's epic awesome |
| 02:53.05 | Statharas | i did |
| 02:53.13 | Otixa | So what's the problem then? |
| 02:53.18 | Otixa | Is it converted to mesh? |
| 02:53.25 | Otixa | Reset Xform? |
| 02:53.27 | Nash|327 | Mine doesn't cause problems. |
| 02:53.30 | Otixa | Zeroed on x,y,z? |
| 02:53.32 | Statharas | ywh |
| 02:53.34 | Nash|327 | Yours does. |
| 02:53.37 | Statharas | xform? |
| 02:53.38 | Otixa | Scaled to SC2 scale? |
| 02:53.56 | Otixa | Apply Xform modifier on top of the model |
| 02:53.58 | Statharas | zeroed on xyz? :v |
| 02:53.59 | Otixa | And collapse the stack |
| 02:54.02 | Otixa | ¬_¬ |
| 02:54.10 | Nash|327 | It interferes with your brain and must be removed. |
| 02:54.12 | Statharas | How do you even do that D: |
| 02:54.14 | Otixa | set to the 0,0,0 coordinates |
| 02:54.26 | Statharas | Well |
| 02:54.36 | Otixa | Select model > press W > bottom right there are 3 spinners > set them to 0 |
| 02:54.37 | Statharas | it's an actual sc2 model |
| 02:54.48 | Statharas | that i edited |
| 02:54.57 | Otixa | groans |
| 02:55.02 | Otixa | What's the error then? |
| 02:56.13 | Statharas | no error, my mesh doesn't get exported |
| 02:56.18 | HeyRevolver | aw snap |
| 02:56.21 | Statharas | only bones |
| 02:56.24 | Nash|327 | AW SNIP! |
| 02:56.31 | Nash|327 | castrates HeyRevolver |
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| 02:57.27 | Otixa | Statharas, dunno then |
| 02:57.29 | Otixa | Lilianna, http://www.chromeexperiments.com/detail/tankworld/?f=webgl |
| 02:57.43 | Statharas | D: |
| 02:57.59 | Lilianna | Cute :D |
| 02:58.24 | Otixa | And it's HTML5 |
| 02:58.28 | Otixa | Soliek pewpew |
| 02:58.29 | Statharas | not even the materials |
| 02:58.30 | Lilianna | but I need to figure out howt he marching cubes algorithm works too I want to try and implement that eventually |
| 02:59.03 | Lilianna | but currently I'm making the world generator, the viewer is a next step |
| 02:59.44 | *** join/#sc2mapster Triceron (60313557@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.49.53.87) |
| 03:00.10 | Triceron | stupid browser crash |
| 03:00.16 | Lilianna | I also started a project to making a virtual synth |
| 03:00.20 | Lilianna | but that ones on hold at the moment |
| 03:00.39 | Statharas | *sigh* i can't find out why it doesn't get exported |
| 03:02.25 | Otixa | pats Lilianna |
| 03:02.29 | Otixa | Triceron, wires, damnit |
| 03:02.42 | Lilianna | goes to blow up space pirates with lasers |
| 03:04.14 | Nash|327 | space pirates D: |
| 03:04.25 | Triceron | :O |
| 03:04.36 | Triceron | Not the space pirates! |
| 03:04.44 | Nash|327 | lasers!!! pewpewpew |
| 03:04.52 | Triceron | blow up the space ninjas instead, ninjas are dirty |
| 03:05.01 | Nash|327 | pirates are dirty |
| 03:05.06 | Nash|327 | ninjas are clean |
| 03:05.21 | Statharas | Why the HELL DOES IT ONLY EXPORT THE BONES! |
| 03:05.23 | Triceron | okay you got me there. |
| 03:05.33 | Triceron | Stath, is your mesh Ediptable Mesh? |
| 03:05.40 | Statharas | yeh |
| 03:05.52 | Triceron | using the SC2 shaders? |
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| 03:06.13 | Triceron | did you somehow flag the mesh as bones? |
| 03:07.19 | Statharas | i am using sc2 shaders |
| 03:07.27 | Statharas | doubt it |
| 03:07.44 | Statharas | Bones: 47 |
| 03:08.29 | Vail | TILE |
| 03:08.41 | Triceron | If you can upload, I can take a look for you |
| 03:08.44 | Statharas | should i set anything to Map Layers? |
| 03:09.04 | Triceron | shouldn't matter |
| 03:09.37 | Statharas | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/932170/Blog/f.m3 |
| 03:09.50 | Statharas | provided you have all the textures in the maps folder |
| 03:10.15 | Nash|327 | BAG A KITTUN |
| 03:10.28 | Statharas | Question, if my whole model is 1 object, can i use different textures for different parts? |
| 03:10.48 | Triceron | yes |
| 03:10.58 | Statharas | cool |
| 03:11.02 | Triceron | create different shader, select by poly, assign shader |
| 03:11.04 | Statharas | when i exported the two models i fused |
| 03:11.15 | Triceron | that's fine |
| 03:11.23 | Statharas | they had their textures already on them |
| 03:11.27 | Triceron | you can export multiple objects too |
| 03:11.27 | Statharas | :/ |
| 03:11.28 | Statharas | kay |
| 03:11.49 | Triceron | I usually have every piece of my units separated to make it easier to weight, then just export it all. |
| 03:11.55 | Statharas | wait |
| 03:11.56 | Statharas | oh shit |
| 03:11.57 | Triceron | works the same as one object |
| 03:12.05 | Statharas | i gave you the m3 model instead of the scene |
| 03:12.19 | Triceron | upload the scene. You using max 2010 or under? |
| 03:12.37 | Triceron | I can't open 2011/12 |
| 03:12.45 | Statharas | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/932170/Blog/FemaleZealot.max |
| 03:12.56 | Statharas | 10 |
| 03:13.07 | Triceron | k |
| 03:15.04 | Triceron | er |
| 03:15.08 | Triceron | you're using a standard material |
| 03:15.15 | Triceron | instead of SC2material |
| 03:15.19 | Statharas | what the hell |
| 03:15.27 | Statharas | for some reason it doesn't work |
| 03:15.35 | Statharas | changing it |
| 03:15.41 | Statharas | then reloading it |
| 03:15.46 | Statharas | gave me the old material |
| 03:16.32 | Statharas | Wait. |
| 03:16.40 | Statharas | How did you view the old material? |
| 03:16.49 | Triceron | looks like you're using a multimaterial? |
| 03:16.55 | Statharas | reassigning the current material breaks it |
| 03:17.03 | Triceron | just create a new one |
| 03:17.06 | Triceron | from scratch |
| 03:17.13 | Triceron | and test that first |
| 03:17.23 | Triceron | then you know if the problem is the material |
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| 03:17.49 | Statharas | ._. |
| 03:18.30 | Statharas | well |
| 03:18.38 | Triceron | just create a Starcraft2 shader |
| 03:18.39 | Statharas | how did you find the old material? |
| 03:18.44 | Triceron | stick in a diffuse |
| 03:18.45 | Triceron | apply |
| 03:18.53 | Statharas | mine doesn't show in the material editor |
| 03:18.54 | Triceron | old material? |
| 03:19.00 | Statharas | yeah |
| 03:19.05 | Statharas | like i said, it doesn't show |
| 03:19.17 | Triceron | its the first thing I see when I opened the material editor |
| 03:19.39 | Statharas | ._. |
| 03:19.42 | Statharas | it is? |
| 03:19.49 | Triceron | well open up the material editor |
| 03:19.53 | Triceron | use the eyedropper |
| 03:20.00 | Triceron | then click on any object |
| 03:20.09 | Triceron | and you'll see what shader's attached |
| 03:20.14 | Triceron | what I see here is a multimaterial |
| 03:20.17 | Statharas | actuall |
| 03:20.20 | Triceron | with a bunch of standards hooked up |
| 03:20.33 | Statharas | actually, that must be the one i must have made by accident |
| 03:20.34 | Statharas | lol |
| 03:20.42 | Statharas | try re-applying it to the model |
| 03:20.55 | Triceron | I'll do a qucik test to see if this exports |
| 03:21.44 | Vail | grah why is this not working right |
| 03:21.54 | SoulTaker916_ | i could say the same thing |
| 03:22.04 | Statharas | wait. what eyedropper? |
| 03:22.08 | Otixa | goes to bed |
| 03:22.42 | Triceron | the one under the shaderballs? next to 'Map #' dropdown menu |
| 03:22.49 | Triceron | in the material editor |
| 03:23.00 | Triceron | stabs Otixa in his sleep |
| 03:23.24 | Otixa | ... ¬_¬ |
| 03:23.33 | Otixa | punches Triceron, mutes sound and goes back to bed |
| 03:23.39 | Statharas | *facepalm* |
| 03:23.41 | Triceron | oh hey you're awake |
| 03:24.06 | Vail | whats not working for you SoulTaker |
| 03:24.40 | Triceron | mesh looks fine here Stath |
| 03:24.45 | Triceron | seems like its your material |
| 03:24.53 | Triceron | just make a fresh one and you should be fine |
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| 03:28.19 | Statharas | ugh |
| 03:28.25 | Statharas | i am having trouble changing it |
| 03:29.48 | Statharas | Triceron, can you help me with it? |
| 03:31.38 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Materials.jpg |
| 03:32.23 | Triceron | that's the basics to get started. If you have materials already created, just click any of the existing materials that you aren't being used |
| 03:32.53 | Triceron | after you set up your material with SC2 shader and SC2 materials, it's a matter of plugging in the materials in the right places |
| 03:33.19 | Statharas | that's what i am having trouble with |
| 03:34.35 | Statharas | also, i can't find my speccular, diffuse and emmisive maps |
| 03:35.10 | Triceron | where were they before? |
| 03:36.09 | Triceron | they should be in assets/textures in your mod folder if you extracted them there |
| 03:36.22 | Triceron | well, technically they should be wherever you extracted them. |
| 03:36.27 | Triceron | you did extract them right? |
| 03:37.24 | Statharas | no, i mean, in my material editor |
| 03:37.33 | Statharas | i did a trick to find them |
| 03:37.34 | Statharas | :p |
| 03:37.46 | Statharas | hmm |
| 03:38.08 | Statharas | Now, how do i set the new material to the mesh ;v? |
| 03:38.11 | Statharas | without breaking it |
| 03:39.02 | Statharas | Because if i drop it over the mesh, it will just get team colored |
| 03:42.40 | Statharas | halp? |
| 03:43.56 | Triceron | oh |
| 03:44.02 | Triceron | so once you have your material |
| 03:44.34 | Triceron | find the icon that says 'Assign material to selection' |
| 03:44.43 | Triceron | it should be third from the left in the Material editor |
| 03:45.01 | Statharas | like i said |
| 03:45.04 | Statharas | Team Colored |
| 03:45.11 | Statharas | 100% team colored |
| 03:45.23 | Triceron | team color is dictated in that shader |
| 03:45.39 | Triceron | if you use SC2 shader |
| 03:45.46 | Triceron | scroll around |
| 03:45.55 | Triceron | and you'll see some areas that says Team Colored Diffuse |
| 03:46.03 | Triceron | if you don't want TC, you change that |
| 03:46.06 | Triceron | to Add |
| 03:46.14 | Statharas | i want team color |
| 03:46.23 | Triceron | then leave it as team color |
| 03:46.34 | Statharas | but it's not using the textures |
| 03:46.45 | Triceron | in the Material Editor |
| 03:46.52 | Statharas | also, my mesh originally used the selendis and zealot textures |
| 03:46.56 | Triceron | once you applied the shader |
| 03:47.10 | Triceron | hit the checkerboard icon, the one that says 'Show Material in Viewport' |
| 03:47.26 | Triceron | in max, it defaults to not show your texture unless you tell it to. |
| 03:47.30 | Triceron | and that's what that button does. |
| 03:47.44 | Triceron | your model isn't 'team colored'. It's just shaded a default color. |
| 03:48.00 | Statharas | ah |
| 03:48.01 | Statharas | so |
| 03:48.07 | Triceron | team color is something specifically defined in the material settings |
| 03:48.28 | Statharas | my blades and head now use the zealot texture :v |
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| 03:48.47 | Triceron | one step at a time now |
| 03:49.10 | Triceron | well |
| 03:49.13 | Statharas | and in an uggly way |
| 03:49.14 | Triceron | lemme think |
| 03:49.27 | Statharas | well, the whole texture looks uggly on the model now |
| 03:49.29 | Triceron | the other way is for you to revert to your original settings |
| 03:49.37 | Triceron | since when you exported |
| 03:49.41 | Triceron | from .m3 |
| 03:49.45 | Triceron | it should have carried over the materials |
| 03:50.06 | Vail | i wonder if hmm i could retell the basic prmise of FF8 in SC2 |
| 03:50.16 | Triceron | why 8 Vail |
| 03:50.25 | Triceron | Squall was a priss |
| 03:50.42 | Statharas | yeah |
| 03:50.52 | Statharas | but did not carry over the material the way i wanted |
| 03:50.54 | Vail | i can see some parallels betwen sc2 and ff8 |
| 03:50.57 | Statharas | but i do have the material here |
| 03:51.13 | Triceron | what do you mean |
| 03:51.15 | Vail | namely Kerrigan and Rinoa... |
| 03:51.37 | Vail | well similarities atleast |
| 03:51.44 | Triceron | that's cuz SC2 story sucks so far |
| 03:52.13 | Statharas | that it originally used |
| 03:52.14 | Vail | what sucks is Raynor gets women dead or worse ... |
| 03:52.16 | Triceron | "Starcraft was just about a boy and a girl" ... What the hell was metzen thinking.... |
| 03:52.25 | SoulTaker916_ | LOLZ!!!! |
| 03:52.34 | Statharas | That's completely wrong >.> |
| 03:52.36 | SoulTaker916_ | rises from the dead to lagh at that joke |
| 03:52.48 | Triceron | that's what he said tho. |
| 03:52.58 | Statharas | Well, he sucks at speeches |
| 03:53.12 | Triceron | Stath, what was wrong with the original shaders, or what changes did you want made? |
| 03:53.14 | Statharas | Anywho |
| 03:53.17 | Statharas | moving on to my model |
| 03:53.27 | SoulTaker916_ | damn |
| 03:53.28 | Statharas | the original shaders wasn't sc2 type |
| 03:53.33 | Triceron | hmm |
| 03:53.35 | Statharas | they were multimaterial or something else |
| 03:53.40 | Statharas | Standard |
| 03:53.42 | SoulTaker916_ | i still cant figure out how to but a progress bar on this damn usit |
| 03:53.58 | Vail | his wife from extended lore dies from grief after they lose their son... Kerrigan gets infested and becomes the queen of blades, Ariel gets infested and becomes the queen of dead |
| 03:54.24 | Vail | the guy just has no luck with women |
| 03:54.53 | Statharas | That's why he hangs in a bar this much |
| 03:55.00 | Triceron | Ariel infestation didn't happen according to HOTS retcon |
| 03:55.03 | Triceron | same with death of Tosh |
| 03:55.10 | Triceron | the 'canon' path is both surviving |
| 03:55.12 | Vail | your kiding |
| 03:55.24 | Vail | thats stupid ... her death was much cooler ... bah |
| 03:55.30 | Triceron | they're only now playing with the idea of carrying over your choices from SC1 |
| 03:55.34 | Triceron | but until then |
| 03:55.45 | Triceron | the current official is Tosh lives Ariel lives. |
| 03:55.56 | Statharas | yeh |
| 03:56.03 | Statharas | i wish it carried over WoL |
| 03:56.04 | Triceron | the issue was raised cuz there were Spectres in the trailer |
| 03:56.08 | Vail | well if she lives she will still cameo in my Mini Campaign |
| 03:56.08 | Statharas | i enjoyed killing tosh |
| 03:56.10 | Triceron | and someone asked |
| 03:56.26 | Triceron | I killed Tosh too |
| 03:56.32 | Triceron | but I saved Ariel I think |
| 03:56.34 | Statharas | Now, what do i do with the old material |
| 03:56.40 | Vail | i did the opposite |
| 03:56.52 | Statharas | How is it possible to change it to sc2 without breaking i |
| 03:56.53 | Statharas | it |
| 03:57.00 | Triceron | gonna be tricky, but you can possibly piece everything into a SC2 shader |
| 03:57.08 | Triceron | the SC2 material has slots for everything you need |
| 03:57.13 | Statharas | It's a multi/Obj-Material |
| 03:57.24 | Statharas | sub-object* |
| 03:57.47 | Statharas | can i use that material and just change the other materials it uses? |
| 03:59.05 | Triceron | I have to say that's kind of odd tho |
| 03:59.12 | Triceron | that yours imported with multimaterial |
| 03:59.23 | Triceron | I just imported a SC2 unit into max and it imported SC2materials for me |
| 03:59.32 | Triceron | one trick I would suggest |
| 03:59.45 | Triceron | import a Zealot into a fresh scene |
| 03:59.48 | Triceron | delete the zealot |
| 04:00.05 | Triceron | the shader should still be in your material editor tho |
| 04:00.08 | Statharas | Well |
| 04:00.12 | Statharas | i fused the objects >.> |
| 04:00.12 | Triceron | so just open your scene and apply |
| 04:00.29 | Triceron | then you need to apply to faces |
| 04:00.50 | Triceron | select the mesh, select by face, and apply the right material to the right faces |
| 04:01.14 | Triceron | do you have a backup of when you didn't have it fused? |
| 04:01.41 | Statharas | no >.> |
| 04:01.44 | Statharas | but i can detach the model |
| 04:02.09 | Triceron | detach, salvage what you can (the head?) export those pieces |
| 04:02.12 | Triceron | then start fresh |
| 04:02.21 | Triceron | and patch the head to a new zealot |
| 04:02.33 | Triceron | then all you need to do is find the material for your head |
| 04:02.39 | Statharas | i still have the new head |
| 04:02.45 | Statharas | somewhere |
| 04:02.55 | Statharas | it's just that i had so much trouble with animations :/ |
| 04:02.59 | Triceron | it's prolly the quickest way to salvage what you have |
| 04:03.20 | Triceron | all you have to do is delete the zealot's head (select faces, delete) |
| 04:03.25 | Triceron | then put your head in the right place |
| 04:03.29 | Triceron | add Skin modifier |
| 04:03.48 | Triceron | and add the head bone to the modifer |
| 04:04.42 | Triceron | or you could 'Select and Link' the head to the bone if you don't want to use Skin modifier. |
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| 04:08.42 | Statharas | Great |
| 04:08.49 | Statharas | so i am doing it from the begining again :v |
| 04:09.24 | Triceron | chock it up to experience :P |
| 04:09.32 | Triceron | do a test first |
| 04:09.40 | Triceron | before you do that, import a Zealot |
| 04:09.47 | Triceron | see if what you imported as a SC2 material |
| 04:09.56 | Triceron | or if it's importing multi materials |
| 04:10.09 | Triceron | I think it was your fusing that screwed up the materials tho |
| 04:18.20 | Triceron | working with materials is a hassle especially if you're dealing with multiple things like transparency and team color |
| 04:18.58 | Vail | tis why im glad i dont model but also why i want art tools from bizz |
| 04:19.16 | Triceron | I don't think they're gonna be much better |
| 04:19.28 | Vail | i wonder if i should put blue or another color on my redeemer unit |
| 04:19.53 | Triceron | when Blizz came out with the art tools for War3 |
| 04:20.02 | Triceron | I was still using DEX to export most of my stuff |
| 04:20.13 | Vail | hm |
| 04:20.39 | Triceron | art tools were only good if you had something you couldn't export normally, like particle FX |
| 04:20.45 | Triceron | but animations were much easier to do with DEX |
| 04:21.04 | Triceron | art tools you had to animate in a certain way using their subtools |
| 04:21.04 | Vail | i see |
| 04:21.29 | Triceron | DEX just forced it through as rotational animation, so as long as you bake your IK you could do anything you wanted. |
| 04:22.39 | Triceron | currently the tool NiN made is like 90% functional. It's just the nature of low poly modelling and textures that rely on alpha channel for both Team Color and Transparency that makes things fickle. |
| 04:22.51 | Triceron | it's not a problem with the exporter, it's just a fickle pipeline. |
| 04:23.56 | flyingspatula | wutu guys talking about |
| 04:24.08 | Triceron | modelling |
| 04:24.11 | flyingspatula | oh |
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| 04:43.46 | Nash|327 | xorioz |
| 04:43.50 | Nash|327 | time for breakfast |
| 04:43.51 | xorioz | morning |
| 04:44.04 | Nash|327 | eat your oakmeal |
| 04:44.09 | xorioz | well i'm still out of oakmeal |
| 04:44.12 | Nash|327 | SVÄLJ GRÖTEN |
| 04:44.12 | Nash|327 | D; |
| 04:44.18 | Triceron | I don't like oakmeal |
| 04:44.23 | Nash|327 | As we say to Danish people. |
| 04:44.37 | Triceron | Quaker Oaks |
| 04:44.53 | xorioz | kornkameret |
| 04:45.09 | Vail | hey Xor |
| 04:45.41 | xorioz | doing bug fixing on my ui so i can make the hero / class presentation for youtube. |
| 04:45.57 | xorioz | properly |
| 04:46.04 | Vail | nice |
| 04:46.15 | Nash|327 | I made some bosses. |
| 04:46.20 | xorioz | nice |
| 04:46.25 | Vail | indeed |
| 04:46.40 | Nash|327 | But still needs more work D: |
| 04:46.40 | xorioz | that was the only thing your map realy needed Nash |
| 04:47.02 | xorioz | do the booses use abilities? |
| 04:47.09 | Nash|327 | ya |
| 04:47.29 | Nash|327 | but needs more designing |
| 04:48.21 | Nash|327 | I have an omegalisk that burrows and appears by random hero and has AoE stun/damage |
| 04:48.34 | Nash|327 | An Archon with Psi Storm and Feedback |
| 04:48.49 | xorioz | :) |
| 04:48.56 | Nash|327 | and some other stuff :G |
| 04:50.09 | Vail | i have a holy marauder aka the Redeemer |
| 04:50.14 | Vail | http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee324/vailreth/Terrain008.jpg |
| 04:50.41 | xorioz | gonna add my viralcrono grenade today :) nice peace of kit. if you are hit by it you get buffed with viral crono nano bots that at intervals make you blink / teleport to random locations on the map. |
| 04:51.00 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 04:51.03 | xorioz | nice vail |
| 04:51.06 | Nash|327 | sounds annoying |
| 04:51.13 | xorioz | that's the point |
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| 04:51.38 | xorioz | it's an ulti croud controal ability |
| 04:53.00 | Vail | i still need to edit the emissive but that will come later |
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| 05:07.22 | Statharas | blizzard |
| 05:07.29 | Statharas | You are "What the Fuck" |
| 05:07.40 | Statharas | the modelers attached one of selendis' fingers to her hair |
| 05:14.20 | Vail | yeah ive noticed some wtf stuff with blizzard models |
| 05:14.52 | Vail | like marauder haves arent married properly |
| 05:19.10 | Nash|327 | married marauders? |
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| 05:20.20 | Vail | what i mean is the left or from our perspective right half of the marauder model is not correctly alligned to the right or our left side |
| 05:21.10 | Vail | it creates a very noticable seem that my recolor exasterbates |
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| 05:28.20 | Statharas | That's nothing |
| 05:28.39 | Statharas | All the faces aren't even merged |
| 05:28.55 | Vail | on the marauder? |
| 05:28.58 | Vail | yeah |
| 05:28.59 | Statharas | of you scale down the model, you will see how pieces look like |
| 05:29.09 | Statharas | if you select the faces that is |
| 05:29.19 | Statharas | doing that on vertexes will scale it properly |
| 05:29.56 | Statharas | Blizzard rushed Sc2 |
| 05:29.56 | Statharas | ._. |
| 05:30.44 | Vail | i dont think they Rushed i think they understood what would be seen at the level they intended and made models that looked good at their scale |
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| 05:32.14 | Statharas | Hmm |
| 05:32.19 | Statharas | gonna test something out |
| 05:33.25 | Vail | its not just scale i think its alltogether they knew what they wanted to show and created that rather than take even more time making everything perfect from angles shots and sizes they wouldnt need them selves |
| 05:35.37 | Statharas | >.> |
| 05:35.40 | Statharas | Question |
| 05:35.49 | Vail | shoot. |
| 05:36.00 | Statharas | is it possible to make an object show during an animation? |
| 05:36.02 | SoulTaker916__ | shoots vail |
| 05:36.31 | Statharas | hmm |
| 05:36.39 | Statharas | I was thinking of animations |
| 05:36.42 | Statharas | for portraits |
| 05:36.44 | SoulTaker916__ | i duno about animations |
| 05:36.46 | SoulTaker916__ | sorry |
| 05:36.50 | SoulTaker916__ | for portaits |
| 05:36.51 | Statharas | like, having one model without portraits |
| 05:36.57 | SoulTaker916__ | i think they use dds files |
| 05:37.03 | SoulTaker916__ | u could probably use photoshop |
| 05:37.07 | SoulTaker916__ | or somthing to edit them |
| 05:37.14 | SoulTaker916__ | oh ya |
| 05:37.16 | SoulTaker916__ | thats easy |
| 05:37.20 | SoulTaker916__ | u can remove portaits |
| 05:37.28 | SoulTaker916__ | go to the data find the unit |
| 05:37.41 | SoulTaker916__ | and under actors u will see a icon with a pick of ur unit |
| 05:37.43 | Statharas | *facepalm* |
| 05:37.45 | Statharas | what. |
| 05:37.52 | Statharas | ugh |
| 05:37.53 | SoulTaker916__ | r u in data |
| 05:37.53 | Statharas | what. |
| 05:38.01 | SoulTaker916__ | do u have the unit u want selected in data? |
| 05:38.04 | Statharas | I know about that -.- |
| 05:38.10 | Statharas | i am talking about models |
| 05:38.10 | SoulTaker916__ | ok |
| 05:38.18 | SoulTaker916__ | ya the portait |
| 05:38.19 | Statharas | having a model without a portrait to use.. |
| 05:38.23 | Statharas | like |
| 05:38.31 | SoulTaker916__ | ... |
| 05:38.35 | SoulTaker916__ | uhuh.. |
| 05:38.39 | Statharas | using one model for both portrait and unit |
| 05:38.55 | SoulTaker916__ | i duno bout that |
| 05:39.00 | SoulTaker916__ | but u can change portaits |
| 05:39.05 | SoulTaker916__ | by selecting the actor |
| 05:39.11 | SoulTaker916__ | and going to the portait field |
| 05:39.15 | SoulTaker916__ | u can try it there |
| 05:39.27 | SoulTaker916__ | it will let u use a unit model for the portrait entry |
| 05:39.31 | SoulTaker916__ | but i never tried it |
| 05:39.47 | Statharas | nevermind, i thought of something cool |
| 05:41.49 | Vail | i think the model needs a camera .. to be a portrait and you would have to work that pretty speficially ... |
| 05:44.30 | Abstruse | whatup |
| 05:53.18 | Statharas | Yeah |
| 05:53.25 | Statharas | the camera is a single bone |
| 05:53.29 | Statharas | named like a camera |
| 05:54.11 | Vail | wonder if it has any settings .. |
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| 05:58.41 | Vail | my idea is if you can set a camera to be a bone named camera and edit its settings we coild be one step closer to better fps maps.. |
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| 06:10.32 | xorioz | ok... vail how do i do this video thingy |
| 06:10.46 | xorioz | use fraps in game. and then what |
| 06:10.56 | xorioz | ill need to convert it somehow |
| 06:11.04 | SouLCarveR | hey I need some quick help |
| 06:11.05 | Vail | you would need something like Sony Vegas to edit it |
| 06:11.16 | SouLCarveR | cant get an animation to play on a unit from send message to unit |
| 06:11.18 | Vail | i have the fifty dollar version of vegas |
| 06:13.29 | Vail | fifty something USD rather |
| 06:13.36 | SouLCarveR | anybody know how to play animations on units from triggers? |
| 06:13.39 | SouLCarveR | could use some help |
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| 06:18.28 | xorioz | damn. lol. my frist fraps video screwd up big time. i'm NOT a good comentator |
| 06:18.44 | xorioz | and i sound like i just smoked 20 joints |
| 06:20.20 | Nash|327 | So don't? |
| 06:22.21 | xorioz | haaaay just cos i sound like it dosen't make it true.. |
| 06:22.35 | Nash|327 | suuuure |
| 06:30.07 | Statharas | Triceron? |
| 06:32.58 | Statharas | Can somebody help me with 3ds max? |
| 06:37.36 | Triceron | ? |
| 06:38.36 | Statharas | I need help :< |
| 06:38.43 | Statharas | when i added a bone to the head's list |
| 06:38.52 | Statharas | the head moved completely out of place |
| 06:39.02 | Statharas | like, way down below the zealot |
| 06:39.41 | Triceron | what do you mean added a bone? |
| 06:40.00 | Statharas | Skin-Bones-Add |
| 06:40.09 | Triceron | k |
| 06:40.14 | Triceron | so you had your head in place |
| 06:40.17 | xorioz | ahh damn. i'm not gonna bother redoing the videos again. |
| 06:40.20 | Triceron | on top of the bone first right? |
| 06:40.25 | Statharas | Yeah |
| 06:40.39 | Triceron | and the timeline was set at 0? |
| 06:40.45 | Statharas | Yup |
| 06:40.59 | Triceron | so you made Skin modifier |
| 06:41.02 | Triceron | added bone |
| 06:41.06 | Triceron | chose Head bone |
| 06:41.17 | Triceron | and the animations completely wonked out? |
| 06:42.16 | Statharas | not the animations |
| 06:42.21 | Statharas | just by placing it |
| 06:42.38 | Statharas | the head object moved below the rest of the mesh |
| 06:42.59 | Statharas | But yeah |
| 06:43.06 | Statharas | the animations did "wonk out" |
| 06:43.38 | Triceron | doesn't sound right |
| 06:43.57 | Triceron | it shouldn't move at all when you use skin modifier |
| 06:44.06 | Triceron | to add a bone |
| 06:44.34 | Triceron | when you select the bone |
| 06:44.51 | Triceron | it's at where it should be right? |
| 06:46.17 | Statharas | the bone? |
| 06:46.19 | Statharas | yeah |
| 06:46.32 | Statharas | i placed the object right where it was supposed to with the bone attached |
| 06:46.57 | Statharas | So |
| 06:47.07 | Statharas | how do i make it move like the bone now :/? |
| 06:47.29 | Statharas | I did it by selecting the bone and adding weight |
| 06:47.41 | Statharas | wait |
| 06:47.42 | Statharas | no |
| 06:47.49 | Statharas | the bone got removed again |
| 06:48.34 | Triceron | O_o |
| 06:48.51 | Triceron | well if the bone got removed, I can see why it would not work :P |
| 06:49.02 | Triceron | if you added only one bone, it should be 100% weighted by default |
| 06:49.35 | Statharas | ._. |
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| 06:49.40 | Statharas | maybe you should look at it... |
| 06:49.47 | Dresnia | =-) |
| 06:50.01 | Dresnia | whatsup |
| 06:50.12 | Dresnia | Nash|327 : why are you still awake ? |
| 06:51.21 | Dresnia | right I'm off to the bank |
| 06:51.29 | Dresnia | I need too re-place my billions ! |
| 06:51.33 | Dresnia | < afk |
| 06:51.43 | Statharas | lol |
| 06:51.49 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 06:51.56 | Dresnia | : - D |
| 06:52.01 | Dresnia | Nah I got a issue with my VISA |
| 06:52.08 | Dresnia | I can't withdraw the money on it :/ |
| 06:52.14 | Nash|327 | D:! |
| 06:52.26 | Dresnia | So I got 300$ ish standing there that I can't use ! |
| 06:52.31 | xorioz | ok. a good free video editor and converter. isent there some open source video editor out there? |
| 06:52.37 | Dresnia | minus a headset ;p |
| 06:52.40 | Dresnia | xorioz : yeah |
| 06:52.48 | Dresnia | thepiratebay.org > sony las vegas pro |
| 06:52.48 | Nash|327 | virtualdub? |
| 06:52.52 | Dresnia | open source & good |
| 06:52.54 | xorioz | haha |
| 06:52.55 | Statharas | Triceron, PM'd it to you |
| 06:53.09 | Dresnia | but afkzor ! |
| 06:53.12 | Dresnia | Nash|327 |
| 06:53.18 | Dresnia | let's do sum testzors today |
| 06:53.20 | Dresnia | <3 |
| 06:53.33 | Nash|327 | perhaps :G |
| 06:53.38 | Statharas | watcha testin? |
| 06:54.27 | Dresnia | untitled hero survival project |
| 06:54.29 | Dresnia | by nash&me |
| 06:54.41 | Dresnia | nash how u mean perhaps :o |
| 06:54.42 | Vail | xorioz i couldnt find a good one really so i picked up sony vegas... it was the least expensive i could find but it has its limitatiosn |
| 06:54.44 | Dresnia | you going out ? |
| 06:54.50 | Nash|327 | no |
| 06:54.57 | Dresnia | then WHY SO PERHAPS |
| 06:55.03 | Dresnia | you mad at me for slacking right |
| 06:55.04 | Dresnia | !! |
| 06:55.20 | Nash|327 | ... |
| 06:55.35 | Dresnia | http://images.4chan.org/b/src/1308984905358.gif that's awesome |
| 06:55.40 | Dresnia | it's art |
| 06:55.51 | Vail | but there is Wax 2.0 From debugmode |
| 06:55.58 | Triceron | er |
| 06:56.03 | Vail | i dont think it can handel sound.. |
| 06:56.10 | Triceron | the bone you added is called 'StarRibbonCharge' |
| 06:56.18 | Vail | but there is audacity for that. |
| 06:56.24 | Triceron | 'Star2RibbonCharge' |
| 06:56.41 | xorioz | sony vegas it is then |
| 06:56.41 | Triceron | that's your problem statharas :P |
| 06:57.25 | xorioz | hmm how long will it take to uplode videos to youtube? |
| 06:57.53 | Statharas | Ooh... |
| 06:57.53 | Statharas | :V |
| 06:58.33 | Vail | the fifty usd version of vegas only handles four layers of audio and four layers of video so more compex projects will require solid forthought |
| 06:59.24 | Vail | depends on the file size could be hours even loner perhaps a day |
| 06:59.39 | Vail | file size and your internet conncections upload speed |
| 06:59.40 | Triceron | my suggstion |
| 06:59.54 | Triceron | select the head, remove the bone, remove the skin modifier |
| 07:00.00 | Triceron | place it in the right area again |
| 07:00.37 | Triceron | add a fresh Skin modifier, and add 'BoneHead' |
| 07:00.45 | Triceron | works for me |
| 07:01.20 | Vail | i was poking around in an exracted file and im wondering how to add unit cameras to units |
| 07:01.50 | Vail | there is more to them than simple bones.. |
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| 07:03.07 | xorioz | yay i'm now a member of youtube. |
| 07:03.16 | Vail | weclome brother |
| 07:03.18 | Triceron | grats |
| 07:04.17 | xorioz | ... i think i have an idea |
| 07:04.40 | xorioz | have been so iritated that blizzard left out the dragoon from sc2 |
| 07:05.33 | xorioz | but i think i might be able to make a good aproximation of it with a large spidermine, a reskin and the protoss canon on top of it :) |
| 07:06.47 | Statharas | Wait wait wait |
| 07:06.50 | Statharas | take it from the top |
| 07:06.54 | Statharas | Remove all bones |
| 07:06.59 | Nash|327 | SC1 mod has Dragoons D_D |
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| 07:08.35 | Triceron | I wish Blizzard would add dragoons to SC2 |
| 07:08.44 | Triceron | just so it would shut up all the people who are asking for dragoons |
| 07:08.53 | Vail | yeah there are dragoon models floating around out there somewhere.. |
| 07:09.11 | Vail | i just wish i could get a unit camera added to my merch marine |
| 07:09.56 | Vail | i love how these models are just pieced together with groups of objects |
| 07:09.58 | Triceron | merch? |
| 07:10.03 | Vail | merc |
| 07:10.03 | Triceron | merchandise marine? |
| 07:10.04 | Vail | sorry |
| 07:10.09 | Triceron | oh |
| 07:10.27 | flyingspatula | merchandise lol |
| 07:10.41 | Statharas | Triceron, adding a skin modifier.. |
| 07:10.45 | Triceron | i was thinking either that or mech marine |
| 07:10.56 | Triceron | you did it right the first time Stath |
| 07:10.59 | Triceron | you just added the wrong bone |
| 07:11.03 | Vail | the merc marine could be a mech marine ... |
| 07:11.29 | Triceron | I dunno how you added the one that I saw :S But when you click 'Add' it should bring up a list of bones and stuff. Choose 'BoneHead' |
| 07:12.37 | Statharas | Triceron, problem is... |
| 07:12.47 | Statharas | that the head is below the place i wanted it to be |
| 07:12.59 | Triceron | head bone? |
| 07:13.00 | Statharas | So i should move the bone? |
| 07:13.02 | Triceron | no |
| 07:13.04 | Triceron | leave it |
| 07:13.07 | Triceron | it will wor |
| 07:13.09 | Triceron | work |
| 07:13.32 | Triceron | bones don't have to be in the exact spot of the model to work |
| 07:14.05 | Triceron | as long as the head is in the spot you want, BoneHead will work. Keep in mind his helmet is being influenced by that bone |
| 07:14.20 | flyingspatula | making models for fun or for maps ur making |
| 07:14.27 | Triceron | so if you scrub through the animations, you can see an indicator of how the head moves by seeing how the helmet moves |
| 07:14.33 | Statharas | Nononono... |
| 07:14.48 | Statharas | See my problem is that adding it to bone_head makes my head move inside the body |
| 07:14.59 | Statharas | i want it the way it was before |
| 07:15.08 | Triceron | did you remove the old Skin and add a new one like I said? |
| 07:15.10 | Statharas | acting like it's supposed to |
| 07:15.13 | Statharas | yup |
| 07:15.14 | Triceron | you used the old skin didn't you? |
| 07:15.15 | Statharas | and it's there |
| 07:15.27 | Statharas | but it moved a little to the inside of the body |
| 07:15.32 | Triceron | if you added a new skin it shouldn't have moved |
| 07:15.41 | Triceron | it shouldn't move at all |
| 07:15.47 | Statharas | It did move for some reason |
| 07:15.57 | Triceron | when you made the Skin modifier |
| 07:16.02 | Triceron | your timeline = 0? |
| 07:16.22 | Vail | hm..were the bones transformed out side of bone edit mode? scaled or moved? |
| 07:16.23 | Triceron | cuz you 0 is bind pose, you need to go back to 0 every time you add skin modifiers |
| 07:19.22 | Statharas | hmm |
| 07:19.28 | Statharas | max froze when exporting |
| 07:20.03 | Statharas | a whole 37 seconds xD |
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| 07:20.44 | Triceron | pm, i uploaded my version for you |
| 07:21.31 | Statharas | Hmm |
| 07:21.39 | Statharas | the Selendis skin doesn't show ingame |
| 07:21.54 | Triceron | did you add dependency? |
| 07:22.03 | Triceron | selendis' skin is in the campaign files |
| 07:22.10 | Triceron | you would need to add the campaign as a dependency |
| 07:22.16 | Statharas | nevermind |
| 07:22.18 | Triceron | or else import it directly into your map |
| 07:22.19 | Statharas | i thought of the same |
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| 07:24.27 | Statharas | Wait. |
| 07:24.32 | Statharas | I added the dependencies |
| 07:24.35 | Statharas | and it still doesn't show ;v |
| 07:24.36 | Statharas | :v* |
| 07:24.58 | Vail | what is the texture path the model is set to use? |
| 07:25.08 | Triceron | reload the editor |
| 07:25.14 | Triceron | if you just added the dependency |
| 07:25.19 | Triceron | it might not update |
| 07:25.25 | Triceron | you'd have to save and reload the editor |
| 07:25.37 | Triceron | the editor is VERY FICKLE about graphics updates. There's no 'refresh' button for it. |
| 07:25.46 | Triceron | it's absolute ass in that respect :P |
| 07:26.23 | Statharas | Wait |
| 07:26.35 | Statharas | Hmm |
| 07:26.41 | Statharas | How do you add variations to models? |
| 07:26.44 | Statharas | like the dark templar? |
| 07:30.11 | Statharas | hmm |
| 07:30.18 | Statharas | moving it away from the assets folder breaks it |
| 07:32.04 | Vail | i would assume you place similarly named models in the same folder as the original then edit the model refrence object in the editir |
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| 07:41.00 | Vail | im going to need SLEEP soon |
| 07:41.33 | Statharas | 00:00:00.00 WARNING: Model Assets\Units\Protoss\Zealot\FemZeal_00.m3; Unable to create this model. |
| 07:42.10 | Statharas | wait. |
| 07:42.12 | Statharas | lol/ |
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| 07:53.27 | Vail | welcome back Xor |
| 07:54.28 | xorioz | just had to go offline while instaling my "legal" sony vegas pro... ehem.. |
| 07:55.18 | xorioz | hmm. that sc2mapster logo you have in the begining of your vids vail. is that something i can use to? |
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| 07:55.49 | Vail | saddly its source file is on mapster ... |
| 07:56.26 | Vail | i can find it i think and host it somewhere unit mapster comes back online if no one from the admins objects |
| 08:02.51 | xorioz | next. i'm done edeting the first video. now how and what should i export it as? |
| 08:03.54 | Nash|327 | KITTUNS! |
| 08:04.11 | Nash|327 | and OAKMEAL |
| 08:04.53 | xorioz | yes ofcurse.. why idn't i think of that. i nead to export it as Kittuns and oakmeal |
| 08:06.41 | xorioz | seriusly what would bee a good format for youtube |
| 08:07.28 | A1win | doesn't really matter as long as youtube knows the format |
| 08:07.55 | xorioz | ok |
| 08:08.44 | Statharas | Question: Triceron |
| 08:09.03 | A1win | http://www.xvid.org/ I'm using that for my videos, dunno if it's the best choice but it gives pretty good results |
| 08:09.05 | Statharas | Would it be possible for me to create a plane with my logo :3? |
| 08:11.13 | xorioz | uhh. rendering :) |
| 08:12.11 | xorioz | ill nead another program to recompress the video format to someting that doesen't use so mutch space |
| 08:20.19 | Dresnia | whats the english word |
| 08:20.22 | Dresnia | for a arm band |
| 08:20.27 | Dresnia | does it have a fancy word ? |
| 08:20.32 | Dresnia | for us it's a armband |
| 08:20.33 | Dresnia | lol |
| 08:20.42 | Dresnia | wristband ! |
| 08:20.52 | Statharas | lul :3 |
| 08:21.16 | Dresnia | I always want it |
| 08:21.22 | Dresnia | untill I amazon it and see they kinda look fugly |
| 08:26.13 | Dresnia | God I got this fucking urge too waste money |
| 08:26.16 | Dresnia | I NEED HALP |
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| 08:28.52 | xorioz | I NEED MONEY |
| 08:29.01 | Dresnia | get a job then |
| 08:29.12 | Dresnia | work fulltime, take sidejobs, spend zero |
| 08:29.16 | Dresnia | then qq on irc channel |
| 08:29.21 | Dresnia | STORY OF MY LIFE |
| 08:29.34 | Dresnia | I'm just saving up for a new rig tbh |
| 08:29.37 | Dresnia | I'm not rich or shit |
| 08:29.42 | Dresnia | Just hate not too spend my cash lol |
| 08:30.45 | xorioz | i think that's quite normal |
| 08:31.29 | Dresnia | well yeah |
| 08:31.41 | Vail | Xor when i cant use adobe media encoder to turn myfiels into flvs i use Super |
| 08:31.41 | Dresnia | but I really can't buy anything more usefull anymore |
| 08:31.45 | Statharas | Guys |
| 08:31.48 | Dresnia | Guy |
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| 08:32.03 | Statharas | how do i make my texture be on two sides of a plane ._.? |
| 08:32.31 | Dresnia | a plane.. |
| 08:32.34 | Dresnia | like a airplane ? |
| 08:34.11 | Vail | http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html |
| 08:34.27 | RndmObjcts | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiu-8tnFC0c if anyone can help i would appriciate it a ton. idk if theres an error in my text or how im importing it or whatever im just lost lol. |
| 08:35.07 | Statharas | no, a 2D plane |
| 08:35.43 | Statharas | nevermind, how do i make black alpha? |
| 08:35.45 | xorioz | got a good free converter.. :) |
| 08:35.46 | Statharas | in my material? |
| 08:36.10 | Vail | oh? what are you using ? |
| 08:36.11 | Statharas | ._. |
| 08:36.21 | xorioz | AVC. any video converter |
| 08:36.27 | Vail | ah |
| 08:36.53 | Vail | i use super because its all i could find to convert my videos to psp format and the format my videoplayer uses |
| 08:37.10 | xorioz | ill have to incorperate a mesage to Nash in my second video :) |
| 08:37.26 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 08:37.31 | xorioz | hehe |
| 08:37.42 | Vail | heh |
| 08:37.43 | xorioz | OAKMEAL |
| 08:37.43 | Nash|327 | OAKMEAL? |
| 08:37.48 | xorioz | !!!! |
| 08:38.01 | Vail | well im out folks |
| 08:39.02 | RndmObjcts | im going to make a game called "Geif Heem Kittuns!!!" and the point of the game will be gathering up kittens in a bad and giving them to a unit named Nash|327 and if you dont do it fast enough... he eats you're head!!! |
| 08:39.15 | Dresnia | in a bad ? |
| 08:39.17 | RndmObjcts | bag** |
| 08:39.20 | Dresnia | you torture kittuns in water |
| 08:39.24 | Dresnia | BURN HIM WITH FIRE NASH |
| 08:39.59 | RndmObjcts | well the nash unit will torture them how he pleases. the players goal is only to gather them for him!!! |
| 08:40.04 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 08:40.46 | xorioz | haha |
| 08:40.54 | xorioz | we have to make that map Rnd |
| 08:41.04 | xorioz | just for the laugh |
| 08:41.17 | xorioz | it can't take that long |
| 08:41.36 | RndmObjcts | lol |
| 08:41.41 | xorioz | all we nead is a wav file of nash shouting kittuns in his mic |
| 08:41.54 | Nash|327 | kittuns.ytmnd.com |
| 08:42.09 | RndmObjcts | well i cant do anything yet i need to figure out what im doing wrong with my ui xD |
| 08:42.23 | RndmObjcts | my video has a few views but no reply's :( |
| 08:42.32 | xorioz | what are you trying to do and where does it fail? |
| 08:42.52 | RndmObjcts | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiu-8tnFC0c |
| 08:43.13 | RndmObjcts | trying to get the command bar to the middle but it doesnt work at all.. once i figure it out im going to move other things |
| 08:45.07 | xorioz | how the hell are you able to start sc2 testing so damn fast |
| 08:45.46 | xorioz | and i cant see whats wrong with your layout file |
| 08:46.14 | flyingspatula | lol i still get retarded youtube comments and replies from wc3 stuff i made 2 years ago |
| 08:46.39 | flyingspatula | atleast like 2000 comments |
| 08:46.44 | flyingspatula | or emails |
| 08:53.31 | RndmObjcts | i have no clue whats wrong lol and i dont test that fast i just cut the video of load times so it wouldnt take hours to render lol |
| 08:54.05 | xorioz | yay. the first video is uploading :) |
| 08:54.22 | Nash|327 | KITTUNS.YTMND.COM |
| 08:54.30 | Nash|327 | Enjoy the kittun song. |
| 08:54.34 | xorioz | but the quallety is a bid bad. will try to make it better for my next videos |
| 08:54.48 | Nash|327 | There's your sound sample. |
| 08:55.33 | xorioz | looooool is that you nash? |
| 08:55.38 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 08:55.41 | xorioz | haha |
| 08:56.29 | RndmObjcts | no its not lol |
| 08:56.43 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 08:57.04 | RndmObjcts | no really..is it you? haha |
| 08:57.12 | Nash|327 | YES. |
| 08:57.25 | RndmObjcts | xorioz: we have a game to make!! |
| 08:57.26 | RndmObjcts | lol |
| 08:57.37 | xorioz | yes we have :) |
| 08:58.03 | xorioz | that's the ending song if you win. |
| 08:58.07 | RndmObjcts | lol |
| 08:58.30 | xorioz | ill have a small side role as the oak eating lunatic murlock |
| 08:58.33 | RndmObjcts | we need some roaring sounds and nash demanding kittens then moar kittuns!!! |
| 08:58.41 | Nash|327 | It will hit page 1 instantly. |
| 08:58.43 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 08:58.51 | RndmObjcts | it better :D |
| 08:59.29 | flyingspatula | lol kitten site |
| 08:59.34 | flyingspatula | i linked that to someone else |
| 09:00.12 | Nash|327 | ...and? |
| 09:01.25 | flyingspatula | i was the only one who lol'd :'( |
| 09:01.42 | Nash|327 | aww |
| 09:01.44 | flyingspatula | but i have it playin over n over |
| 09:01.49 | flyingspatula | i mus need sleep lol |
| 09:01.55 | flyingspatula | i coudl fall asleep to this |
| 09:01.58 | Nash|327 | Some people just don't appreciate kittuns in bags. |
| 09:02.04 | Nash|327 | Must be brain damage. |
| 09:02.15 | flyingspatula | pretty much |
| 09:02.27 | flyingspatula | MUST FIND USE FOR THIS SONG FILE IN A MAP |
| 09:02.46 | Nash|327 | work with xorioz and RndmObjcts |
| 09:02.50 | flyingspatula | haha |
| 09:03.02 | Nash|327 | You can make an epic kittun bagging map. |
| 09:03.06 | flyingspatula | XD |
| 09:03.11 | RndmObjcts | NOOO THATS MY IDEA!!! |
| 09:03.12 | Nash|327 | import some WoW kittuns |
| 09:03.24 | flyingspatula | actually this is gonna sound kinda bad but... i actually was making a map called Immigration Control |
| 09:03.31 | xorioz | uh uh uh. i got a name for the map Kittun Bagin |
| 09:03.34 | flyingspatula | and one team were mexcians and the other border patrol |
| 09:03.45 | flyingspatula | 0.o |
| 09:03.49 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 09:03.52 | RndmObjcts | thats racist |
| 09:04.00 | RndmObjcts | im reporting you to blizzard!!!! |
| 09:04.02 | flyingspatula | ;0 |
| 09:04.05 | RndmObjcts | no.. no im not >.> |
| 09:04.43 | xorioz | yay my first video on youtube. mega noobish but hay... |
| 09:04.45 | xorioz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIuRTigzsU8 |
| 09:05.13 | flyingspatula | i never talked on my vids from wc23 |
| 09:05.46 | RndmObjcts | xorioz: omg xorioz make me a ui or teach me how to fix mine O: |
| 09:06.07 | flyingspatula | i kinda want to make my own ui too |
| 09:06.17 | xorioz | hehe. Rnd keep that up and i might make a small guide on mapster about it. |
| 09:06.25 | Nash|327 | UI isn't that hard :G |
| 09:06.41 | Nash|327 | locate Helral's video tutorial |
| 09:06.47 | Nash|327 | until mapster is up |
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| 09:07.03 | xorioz | but there are allredy a whole bunch of ui guides on mapster. that's how i made that ui |
| 09:07.40 | flyingspatula | lols this was like one of my first utube vids http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ACAX2MfoWs |
| 09:07.52 | Nash|327 | But MAPSTER IS DOWN |
| 09:08.05 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: thats what i used for the issue im having :( did you watch the video i posted? |
| 09:08.19 | Nash|327 | What? |
| 09:08.22 | flyingspatula | no wai mapster is down |
| 09:09.06 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiu-8tnFC0c |
| 09:09.11 | flyingspatula | o shit one of my utube videos has 300000 views |
| 09:10.13 | xorioz | shit man... you made an fps in wc3? |
| 09:10.42 | flyingspatula | lol yeah |
| 09:10.44 | flyingspatula | few years ago |
| 09:11.17 | Nash|327 | you wanted it in the middle? |
| 09:11.19 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 09:11.59 | RndmObjcts | yea |
| 09:12.07 | flyingspatula | its a shame fpsisnt really feasable on sc2 bnet |
| 09:12.23 | Nash|327 | try anchoring one side to mid |
| 09:12.29 | Nash|327 | and the other to $this |
| 09:12.50 | Nash|327 | relative $this |
| 09:13.19 | Nash|327 | anchor right to max $this |
| 09:13.23 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 09:13.29 | RndmObjcts | >.> |
| 09:13.45 | RndmObjcts | really or are you just making fun of me for being a nub? |
| 09:14.06 | Nash|327 | I have better ways of making fun of people. |
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| 09:14.50 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 09:14.51 | RndmObjcts | ok so actually put "$this" in or? |
| 09:14.59 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 09:15.12 | Ibebusiness | ? |
| 09:15.17 | Ibebusiness | what does that do? |
| 09:15.19 | Nash|327 | it anchors to itself |
| 09:15.35 | Nash|327 | it's used to override existing anchors |
| 09:15.48 | Ibebusiness | anchors? |
| 09:15.53 | flyingspatula | sup ibeb |
| 09:15.57 | Ibebusiness | hey |
| 09:16.12 | Ibebusiness | is this for galaxy? |
| 09:16.13 | Nash|327 | if you just want a left anchor, you can anchor right to $this |
| 09:18.44 | flyingspatula | ibeb what country r u |
| 09:19.51 | RndmObjcts | nope its still just in the original spot :( |
| 09:20.29 | Nash|327 | aww |
| 09:20.53 | Nash|327 | try anchoring left to min of parent |
| 09:21.08 | Nash|327 | just to see if that works |
| 09:22.10 | Ibebusiness | usa |
| 09:22.12 | Nash|327 | <Anchor side="Left" relative="$parent" pos="Min" offset="20"/> |
| 09:22.14 | Nash|327 | <Anchor side="Right" relative="$this" pos="Max" offset="0"/> |
| 09:22.14 | flyingspatula | lol im playing this random fps on bnet righ tnow |
| 09:22.21 | Nash|327 | I do that and it works :G |
| 09:22.26 | Ibebusiness | prolly not mine |
| 09:22.36 | Ibebusiness | wip1324 |
| 09:22.41 | Ibebusiness | and coldwar/s |
| 09:22.42 | Ibebusiness | are mine |
| 09:22.53 | flyingspatula | whats urs? link me |
| 09:23.04 | Ibebusiness | I cant upload my current one |
| 09:23.31 | RndmObjcts | k im trying it |
| 09:23.51 | flyingspatula | ah ok |
| 09:24.12 | flyingspatula | no test relases or anything of urs or the 2 guys u jus named? |
| 09:24.24 | flyingspatula | i mean even a crappy fps owuld be fun if bnet was not laggy |
| 09:24.26 | RndmObjcts | nope nothing |
| 09:24.27 | Ibebusiness | I deleted everything trying to upload |
| 09:24.36 | flyingspatula | lol that sucks |
| 09:24.37 | xorioz | converting video number 2 |
| 09:26.25 | Ibebusiness | and even if, I dont seem to get my traceline to work right |
| 09:27.21 | flyingspatula | traceline cant be THAT hard |
| 09:27.26 | flyingspatula | ;/ |
| 09:27.41 | flyingspatula | maybe take a different approach at the map? |
| 09:28.15 | Ibebusiness | like, when i shoot, the line for the most part is sorta accurate.. |
| 09:28.23 | Ibebusiness | the higher I aim, the more its off |
| 09:28.29 | Ibebusiness | but when I aim ground level |
| 09:28.55 | Ibebusiness | only sometimes does it register a hit, even though the debugging "white line" clearly goes thru the unit |
| 09:30.09 | flyingspatula | hmm |
| 09:30.34 | flyingspatula | what are you basing your traceline off of |
| 09:31.44 | flyingspatula | for me its been bnet lag rather than actual fixable stuff >< |
| 09:32.20 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: could it be because the folder that keeps coming up when i import it maybe? |
| 09:32.33 | Nash|327 | the what? |
| 09:32.43 | RndmObjcts | the reason the ui doesnt change at all |
| 09:32.53 | Nash|327 | folder wha wha |
| 09:33.29 | RndmObjcts | because in helrals tut when he imports the file and but the folder doesnt show up like mine does.. if you watch my video im just clicking the sc2layout file but the folder its in comes too |
| 09:33.47 | Nash|327 | folders don't matter |
| 09:33.49 | RndmObjcts | idk why i put and & but just ignore those lol |
| 09:33.59 | Nash|327 | as long as you set the correct reference D: |
| 09:34.12 | RndmObjcts | oh ok.. well idk i cant figure it out.. but nothing works QQ |
| 09:34.22 | Ibebusiness | well I have my tool that goes around that lag issue |
| 09:34.26 | Ibebusiness | I can send you the map |
| 09:34.46 | flyingspatula | ;0 a tool huh neat |
| 09:35.07 | flyingspatula | is your code scripted or GUI'd tho |
| 09:35.12 | flyingspatula | one easier to read than other lol |
| 09:35.37 | Ibebusiness | gui |
| 09:35.40 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 09:35.42 | Nash|327 | make an offering to kittuns |
| 09:35.49 | flyingspatula | u could send map or screenshot if u like |
| 09:35.51 | Nash|327 | solves many problems |
| 09:35.53 | flyingspatula | i dont know how much help ill be afterall |
| 09:35.57 | flyingspatula | lol nash |
| 09:36.44 | flyingspatula | i honestly havent looked at how ppl havebeen doing tracelines in sc2 |
| 09:37.03 | Nash|327 | tracelines D; |
| 09:37.11 | Nash|327 | FPS shit? |
| 09:37.15 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 09:37.18 | xorioz | so what you guys think of my marine anyways? |
| 09:37.24 | flyingspatula | hey tracelines coul dbe used for...er others tuff too |
| 09:37.46 | Nash|327 | Just use Unit is Clicked ;G |
| 09:37.56 | flyingspatula | tbh nash, i find any idea i have boring when u jus move a unit around by right clicking and click casting crap |
| 09:37.58 | xorioz | i'm gonna use tracelines for all the cone splats and such for skilshots |
| 09:38.52 | Nash|327 | top down ftw |
| 09:39.03 | flyingspatula | yeah if wasd wasnt laggy or mouse :'( |
| 09:39.09 | Nash|327 | SC2 is a poor FPS engine D_D |
| 09:39.09 | flyingspatula | id do a mouse move like diablo |
| 09:39.14 | flyingspatula | but its even laggier than wasd |
| 09:39.24 | flyingspatula | cant even do diablo movement :( |
| 09:39.32 | flyingspatula | or that one game called Magicka |
| 09:39.33 | Nash|327 | I use a default control scheme with locked camera |
| 09:39.42 | flyingspatula | lol yea that works i guess but |
| 09:39.49 | flyingspatula | for instance im working on a chase map |
| 09:39.56 | flyingspatula | and right lcick just doesnt give it the right feeling |
| 09:40.00 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: could it be cause im using ' and not " ? |
| 09:40.09 | Nash|327 | no |
| 09:40.54 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: how about spaces? like i have more than one space between ='Min' relative= |
| 09:41.10 | Nash|327 | SPAAAAAAAACE |
| 09:41.21 | flyingspatula | i noticed how laggy it is with more than 6 ppl on Photon Cycles and made me realize how laggy a diablo like camera would be |
| 09:41.33 | Nash|327 | Spaces don't matter. |
| 09:41.51 | RndmObjcts | ok |
| 09:42.13 | Nash|327 | Unless SC2 parser is a piece of shit that is D_D |
| 09:42.25 | RndmObjcts | someone earlier was telling me it might be a problem with "<Frame type='CommandPanel' name='GameUI/UIContainer/ConsoleUIContainer/CommandPanel' file='GameUI'>" is there something in there thats wrong? |
| 09:43.36 | Nash|327 | Nope :G |
| 09:44.29 | RndmObjcts | i tried taking the height and width out too cause i dont think i need it since im not changing the buttons but that didn't help either |
| 09:44.37 | RndmObjcts | my entire code is <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?> <Desc> <Frame type='CommandPanel' name='GameUI/UIContainer/ConsoleUIContainer/CommandPanel' file='GameUI'> <Anchor side= 'Left' pos='Min' relative='$parent' Offset='0'/> <Anchor side= 'Right' pos='Max' relative='$parent' Offset='0'/> <Frame/> </Desc> |
| 09:44.39 | Ibebusiness | right click? |
| 09:44.51 | RndmObjcts | see anything at all thats wrong? lol.. i cant figure it out :-( |
| 09:45.20 | RndmObjcts | well.. the left i set back to max too |
| 09:45.41 | Nash|327 | you anchored it to max of parent? |
| 09:45.55 | Nash|327 | of course it's on the right D_D |
| 09:46.02 | RndmObjcts | yea i put it back thats was it was to begin with.. thats how helral did it |
| 09:46.11 | RndmObjcts | hot it was* |
| 09:46.21 | RndmObjcts | how it was* wow lol i woke up to early xD |
| 09:47.13 | Nash|327 | anchor one of them to $this |
| 09:47.20 | RndmObjcts | i did that |
| 09:47.38 | RndmObjcts | i had left to min of parent and right to max of $this and the left had a 20 offset |
| 09:47.44 | RndmObjcts | and nothing worked :( |
| 09:48.58 | Nash|327 | D_D_D_D_D_D |
| 09:49.28 | Nash|327 | Maybe you didn't set the layout file correctly :G |
| 09:49.40 | RndmObjcts | what do you mean? |
| 09:50.11 | Nash|327 | default game UI |
| 09:50.29 | Nash|327 | set the layout file :G |
| 09:50.43 | RndmObjcts | yea im doing that |
| 09:51.11 | Nash|327 | WELL I DUNNO |
| 09:51.21 | Nash|327 | IT IS MADDENING |
| 09:51.34 | RndmObjcts | :( alright well thanks for trying :D |
| 09:51.46 | Nash|327 | Use my layout file |
| 09:51.51 | Nash|327 | check that it works |
| 09:52.20 | Nash|327 | http://pastebin.com/WjAmFsxV |
| 09:52.35 | Nash|327 | If that file doesn't work you're not setting layout file correctly D: |
| 09:55.05 | Ibebusiness | hmm |
| 09:55.15 | Ibebusiness | the file size is all wrong when up loading |
| 09:55.27 | Ibebusiness | the file size is LESS than what galaxy is "uploading" |
| 09:55.32 | Ibebusiness | but im about to post the link here |
| 09:55.39 | Ibebusiness | everyone is free to look at it |
| 09:57.18 | flyingspatula | file size crap is always weird i noticed |
| 09:57.53 | RndmObjcts | Nash|327: yea that worked |
| 09:57.58 | RndmObjcts | but mine doesnt xD |
| 09:58.38 | Nash|327 | well now you know the problem is with your smelly file |
| 09:58.44 | Nash|327 | it smells |
| 09:58.58 | RndmObjcts | QQ |
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| 10:02.14 | Ibebusiness | aparently the file size is fucked up within my map |
| 10:02.23 | Ibebusiness | no uploading site will correctly upload it |
| 10:02.37 | flyingspatula | even if you zip it? |
| 10:02.46 | Ibebusiness | havnt tried |
| 10:02.54 | flyingspatula | u prolly have to zip the file |
| 10:03.14 | xorioz | yay |
| 10:03.15 | xorioz | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in9WgEx9Svg |
| 10:03.33 | xorioz | with a mesage for nash at the end :) |
| 10:03.42 | xorioz | messege |
| 10:06.06 | Ibebusiness | I've never had to zip a map to send it |
| 10:06.09 | Ibebusiness | but im trying that now |
| 10:07.28 | Ibebusiness | http://www.sendspace.com/file/f8emst |
| 10:07.32 | Ibebusiness | sorry for the ad's |
| 10:07.51 | Ibebusiness | anyways, im getting off, please pm me any comments so i may see them later |
| 10:10.47 | Nash|327 | OAKMEAL AND KITTUNS |
| 10:15.08 | RndmObjcts | lol |
| 10:15.10 | RndmObjcts | nice vid |
| 10:16.11 | RndmObjcts | uuuugggghhh i cant figure this out ive tried everything i think might be wrong with the file.. and nothing working lol. |
| 10:16.50 | xorioz | i want to game something |
| 10:17.08 | Nash|327 | "game something"? |
| 10:17.20 | xorioz | play a game of sorts |
| 10:17.32 | Nash|327 | bag a kittun |
| 10:17.35 | xorioz | i should be working on my map but i want to game :P |
| 10:17.50 | xorioz | is that wrong? |
| 10:17.55 | Nash|327 | no |
| 10:18.57 | xorioz | i'm gonna draw up some ideas for the kittun baggin map later :) |
| 10:19.40 | Nash|327 | kittun bagging woot |
| 10:19.47 | Nash|327 | What happens if I play it D_D |
| 10:19.56 | Nash|327 | I have to give kittun bags to myself? |
| 10:20.50 | xorioz | yes |
| 10:20.55 | Nash|327 | :( |
| 10:21.10 | Nash|327 | Should make a bank feature that verifies me. |
| 10:21.20 | Nash|327 | So I am the reciever of kittun bags. |
| 10:24.01 | Nash|327 | gonna go sleep a few hours or so |
| 10:24.05 | Nash|327 | can play something later |
| 10:25.43 | RndmObjcts | ughhhhh stupid ui -_- |
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| 10:37.53 | Hobrow|Dhugal | hi |
| 10:39.04 | Hobrow|Dhugal | if you play a map and you have to select a hero (no random hero) what details would you like to know about that specific hero? |
| 10:50.59 | xorioz | a short text describing his abilities. how mutch helth energy shield he and so on. how fast he moves and what type of attack he has. |
| 10:51.03 | xorioz | stuff like that |
| 10:56.30 | Hobrow|Dhugal | thanks |
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| 11:45.42 | Xan | Is there any way to change unit turning rate with triggers? I've tried with catalogs (error), and also with behaviors (there is no way to modify the turning rate afaik) |
| 11:52.22 | xorioz | you can make a behavior that moddifys the turning rate and then apply it with a triger |
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| 12:00.43 | Mexa | hello |
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| 12:03.29 | mapman | mapster still down ಠ_ಠ|
| 12:08.08 | Xan | xorioz: how do I modify turning rate with a behavior? seem to be able to modify everything else, but there is no turning rate :/ |
| 12:08.22 | xorioz | hmm |
| 12:08.30 | xorioz | ill have to look into that |
| 12:08.36 | xorioz | give me a min |
| 12:09.29 | Xan | thanks |
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| 12:12.19 | xorioz | hmm. can't seam to find anny effect or behavior that can moddify the turning rate |
| 12:12.24 | xorioz | time for google :) |
| 12:13.37 | xorioz | hmm. it has something to do with the mover |
| 12:14.02 | Xan | weird that it cant be modified with a behavior |
| 12:14.34 | xorioz | well weird is the galaxy editor in a nutshell |
| 12:14.55 | xorioz | time for an ego boost. |
| 12:15.17 | xorioz | http://www.youtube.com/user/xoriozme |
| 12:15.51 | xorioz | will be posting diferent stuff about my map there including class presentations and such |
| 12:16.32 | Xan | maybe I can use a transform effect to just change the unit to a unit with modified turning rate? |
| 12:16.36 | Xan | or will that look strange? |
| 12:17.19 | xorioz | dont think so |
| 12:17.30 | xorioz | what exacly are you trying to do? |
| 12:18.20 | Xan | to simulate some kind of realistic ship turning for a cinematic, but want to be able to change the turning rate for different manouvers |
| 12:18.28 | Statharas | http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/sc2-resources-675/female-zealot-198041/ :3 |
| 12:19.05 | xorioz | whoaaa female... !!! holy shit. and here i was stating to think thay did not exist |
| 12:19.17 | mapman | guys if a player leaves and then you return the "number of players in active players" integer |
| 12:19.21 | Statharas | Think of Selendis |
| 12:19.24 | mapman | will it update? |
| 12:19.30 | Statharas | Pro-tip. The screenshot was taken with high quality |
| 12:19.41 | Statharas | low* |
| 12:19.56 | Statharas | and uses almost no imported textures! |
| 12:21.20 | xorioz | mapman. active players will update (I think). but a problem i have had with that is that active player allso returns computer players |
| 12:21.40 | mapman | like wiloh uhm |
| 12:21.48 | mapman | so if a player leaves he turns into a comp? |
| 12:21.58 | xorioz | i have just the triggers to solve all those problems :) |
| 12:22.02 | xorioz | no |
| 12:23.37 | xorioz | ill create an empty map with the needed triggers. that create a player group with all active and humen players |
| 12:24.42 | xorioz | if that is ok with you mapman |
| 12:24.54 | xorioz | Xan. your problem is a bit above me sry. |
| 12:25.08 | Xan | np |
| 12:31.36 | Statharas | nobody wants to test my model :<? |
| 12:32.43 | xorioz | mapman |
| 12:34.01 | xorioz | i have the sample map rdy if you need it :) |
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| 12:35.22 | TheAlmaity | mapster still isn't up -.- |
| 12:35.27 | xorioz_gaming | nope |
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| 12:46.03 | TheAlmaity | anything interesting going on? |
| 12:47.39 | Brainshack | Statharas: looks like a normal zealot :> |
| 12:49.29 | Brainshack | can i change the map's size somehow? |
| 12:51.57 | TheAlmaity | map bounds |
| 12:52.15 | TheAlmaity | Theres 2 checkboxes in the bottom left |
| 12:52.28 | TheAlmaity | one is for camera bounds, the other for actual map size |
| 12:52.52 | TheAlmaity | still limited to 256x256 max though |
| 12:53.02 | mapman | shit sry |
| 12:53.08 | mapman | i had an emergency |
| 12:53.12 | Statharas | Brainshack, look at /her/ |
| 12:53.14 | mapman | xorioz |
| 12:53.22 | Statharas | high def pics being uploaded |
| 12:53.36 | Brainshack | TheAlmaity: thx |
| 12:53.55 | Brainshack | well yeah the head looks a little different |
| 12:54.04 | mapman | xorioz_gaming |
| 12:54.06 | Brainshack | though i wouldnt recognize her as a female if i didnt know |
| 12:54.26 | xorioz_gaming | haaay i'm gaming... |
| 12:54.32 | Ibebusiness_ | no pms about my map? |
| 12:54.33 | mapman | ah its cool breo |
| 12:54.38 | xorioz_gaming | :) |
| 12:54.39 | Ibebusiness_ | damn |
| 12:54.44 | mapman | imma hop in a game too i think |
| 12:54.47 | xorioz_gaming | gonna upload the map to my ftp |
| 12:54.49 | xorioz_gaming | sec |
| 12:55.52 | Ibebusiness_ | yes, there should be a bank feature for nash |
| 12:55.56 | xorioz_gaming | http://xorioz.users.whitehat.dk/ |
| 12:55.59 | Ibebusiness_ | so he gets the kittuns when he is on |
| 12:56.06 | xorioz_gaming | yep |
| 12:56.54 | mapman | ok tks |
| 12:56.59 | mapman | let me just finish that game |
| 12:57.05 | mapman | pwning these diamond nubs |
| 12:57.35 | Ibebusiness_ | now you make me wanna play |
| 12:57.37 | Ibebusiness_ | tear |
| 12:57.42 | Ibebusiness_ | I placed in gold |
| 12:57.50 | mapman | :P |
| 12:58.07 | Ibebusiness_ | I droped to 26 rank since I havnt been on |
| 12:58.31 | Statharas | High def up |
| 12:58.48 | Ibebusiness_ | im stealing your playergroup map. muah hahahahahaha |
| 12:58.50 | Ibebusiness_ | jk |
| 12:59.14 | Brainshack | Ibebusiness_: which league you play? |
| 12:59.53 | Ibebusiness_ | uh |
| 12:59.55 | Ibebusiness_ | gold? |
| 13:00.01 | Ibebusiness_ | thats what I got placed at |
| 13:00.19 | Brainshack | ok |
| 13:00.25 | Brainshack | how you'e doing in there?^^ |
| 13:00.43 | Ibebusiness_ | I dropped to 26th |
| 13:00.48 | Ibebusiness_ | I havnt been on in a few days |
| 13:00.52 | Ibebusiness_ | and there are only 100 people |
| 13:01.02 | Brainshack | only played you ranking games? |
| 13:01.03 | Ibebusiness_ | I was 5th with only 1 game so far lol |
| 13:01.17 | Ibebusiness_ | I played 5 qualifications matches |
| 13:01.19 | Ibebusiness_ | that put me in gold |
| 13:01.23 | Ibebusiness_ | at like 10th place |
| 13:01.26 | Ibebusiness_ | then played 1 game |
| 13:01.30 | Ibebusiness_ | and went to 6th |
| 13:01.38 | Ibebusiness_ | then dropped the last few days not playing |
| 13:02.02 | Ibebusiness_ | I dont understand the leagues... my friend got placed gold, but only had 3 people in his league?!?! |
| 13:02.18 | Ibebusiness_ | and our league names are different! |
| 13:02.38 | Brainshack | different divisions |
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| 13:02.47 | Brainshack | leagues are split into divisions of 100 ppl |
| 13:02.52 | Ibebusiness_ | hmm |
| 13:02.57 | Ibebusiness_ | im division horner xray |
| 13:03.04 | Ibebusiness_ | he was division horner drone |
| 13:03.20 | Ibebusiness_ | why are they split? |
| 13:03.29 | Ibebusiness_ | and in what order are they? |
| 13:03.51 | Ibebusiness_ | When do I know when im #1 of my league? |
| 13:04.14 | Ibebusiness_ | and how does the bonus pool work? |
| 13:04.17 | Ibebusiness_ | I have 1102 |
| 13:04.22 | XorioZ | ok. how are we gonna do this kittun baggin map :) |
| 13:04.27 | Brainshack | bonus pool stacks up when not playing |
| 13:04.39 | Brainshack | you get bonus points when you win |
| 13:04.50 | Brainshack | you only can see your division |
| 13:04.56 | Brainshack | being #1 doesnt really matter |
| 13:05.09 | Brainshack | since there might be the point when you get promoted to the next better ladder |
| 13:05.27 | Brainshack | only in grand masters #1 does really matter, since afaik there is only one division |
| 13:05.29 | Jum-Jum | Ibebusiness_: made that way so you're not rank 25053 out of 100 000 |
| 13:05.32 | Brainshack | and you cant get better |
| 13:05.39 | Ibebusiness_ | lol |
| 13:05.42 | Ibebusiness_ | jum jum I like that |
| 13:05.43 | Jum-Jum | blizzards way of not making anyone feel like shit |
| 13:05.47 | Jum-Jum | and it works |
| 13:05.49 | Ibebusiness_ | how gay |
| 13:06.13 | Ibebusiness_ | I wish I could look somewhere online to see my real rank |
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| 13:11.52 | bone123 | why is sc2m still down? :( |
| 13:13.25 | Brainshack | cuz its not as important as curse and stuff^^ |
| 13:13.36 | Brainshack | can i somehow change the cliff type of a cliff? |
| 13:13.39 | bone123 | i need help^^ |
| 13:14.21 | Statharas | And my last update to it will probably be when i will place a camera on the modelulz |
| 13:14.21 | A1win | Brainshack, turn on cliff merging and then just paint with the other cliff type near it |
| 13:14.58 | Brainshack | cliff merging? |
| 13:15.39 | A1win | search the menus |
| 13:16.34 | Statharas | who wants to see my modelulz? :D |
| 13:17.04 | Statharas | uber high def SS available |
| 13:17.45 | bone123 | I've createda persistent effekt to spawn units when a bigger units dies |
| 13:18.21 | bone123 | the effect triggers when the unit dies and the spawn effect is working |
| 13:18.57 | bone123 | but the persistent effect is not working when i combine al 3 parts |
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| 13:20.51 | bone123 | http://i.imgur.com/fECuz.jpg |
| 13:22.28 | TheAlmaity | Who is channeling the spell? |
| 13:23.12 | TheAlmaity | If the answer is "no one" or "Some dead dude", remove the channeled flag |
| 13:23.25 | bone123 | nobody, it is trigger by a behavior on final. final is the momemt the unit dies |
| 13:23.44 | TheAlmaity | yea, dead units can't channel persistents since they're... well... dead |
| 13:23.46 | bone123 | it wasn't there. just played aroudn to find a solution |
| 13:24.14 | TheAlmaity | hmmm.... |
| 13:24.26 | bone123 | but trying again |
| 13:24.45 | TheAlmaity | you dont need to modify the target fields and periodic offset if youre not changing any offsets |
| 13:28.07 | bone123 | removed it all and it is still not working |
| 13:28.31 | bone123 | if i attach the the spawn effect to the behavior, I'm getting a unit |
| 13:28.51 | TheAlmaity | strange :/ compare it to the behavior and effects of "Zerg Building Dies 6" (or 9) |
| 13:37.46 | bone123 | omg^^ |
| 13:38.38 | bone123 | the spawn effect has to be target point and not target unit if it is triggered by a persistent |
| 13:44.08 | bone123 | second problem :) |
| 13:44.30 | bone123 | i've changed the color of an button icon, but now it is brigth and blured |
| 13:44.57 | TheAlmaity | Cant help there :/ never heard of that happening and I'm not an expert on dialogs |
| 13:45.24 | bone123 | it is not about dialogs^^ |
| 13:45.45 | bone123 | trying to use it as command card button |
| 13:46.25 | TheAlmaity | Howd you change the color done? Outside the editor? |
| 13:46.37 | bone123 | photoshop |
| 13:47.00 | TheAlmaity | Yea... Cant help there then, I'd say ask on mapster, but well... |
| 13:47.08 | bone123 | even after importing it into the editor it looks fine |
| 13:56.56 | bone123 | http://i.imgur.com/q0ie5.jpg |
| 13:56.59 | bone123 | ^^ |
| 14:27.19 | XorioZ | looks like my m8 Lars is joining #sc2mapster |
| 14:33.09 | mapman | hey xorioz |
| 14:33.22 | XorioZ | yo |
| 14:33.25 | mapman | i checke dyour shit |
| 14:33.29 | mapman | so basiaclly |
| 14:33.41 | mapman | the "active players" includes comps |
| 14:33.46 | XorioZ | yep |
| 14:33.51 | mapman | and if a player leaves the game he becomes a comp |
| 14:33.54 | mapman | so you gotta take it out |
| 14:33.55 | mapman | manually |
| 14:33.58 | mapman | ? |
| 14:34.01 | XorioZ | no |
| 14:34.15 | mapman | uhm |
| 14:34.26 | mapman | then why does my shit fucks up when a player leaves my map |
| 14:34.29 | Dustin | I dont think Active Players includes computers does it? |
| 14:34.44 | XorioZ | yes it does |
| 14:34.47 | mapman | the player keeps being picked even though the parameter is "active players" |
| 14:35.11 | XorioZ | well try using the triggers i made |
| 14:35.19 | XorioZ | that's what i use for my map |
| 14:35.20 | mapman | k |
| 14:35.21 | Xan | why not just have a player group with all the players, and then remove him from player group if he leaves? |
| 14:35.41 | mapman | uhm i could do that |
| 14:35.49 | Xan | and then use the player group instead of "active players" |
| 14:36.19 | XorioZ | step #1 create a player group just like Xan says |
| 14:37.07 | XorioZ | step #2 create a trigger that's run on map initialization with for each player in active players. |
| 14:37.28 | mapman | oh wait |
| 14:37.33 | mapman | theres a function |
| 14:37.58 | mapman | remove player from player group, and you can pick the "active player" function |
| 14:38.12 | mapman | so you can do player leaves the game then remove triggering player from aactive players |
| 14:38.27 | XorioZ | step #3 within that for loop you create an if statement that cheks if the curently selected player from active players is a computer and if it is then do nothing else add player to costum player group |
| 14:38.55 | mapman | but the thing is |
| 14:39.06 | mapman | i dont get why it would be a comp cuz i dont have comp players in my map[ |
| 14:39.35 | mapman | but when a player leaves it keeps being picked from active players, and his name stays too |
| 14:40.03 | XorioZ | step #4 create a trigger with the event player leaves game with any reason. |
| 14:40.13 | mapman | yea |
| 14:40.14 | mapman | but yo |
| 14:40.18 | Xan | just do: event - player leaves game actions: Remove (triggering player) from player group "Players", e.g. |
| 14:40.28 | mapman | you SURE that when a player leaves the game he doesnt turn into a comp |
| 14:40.30 | XorioZ | as Xan says |
| 14:40.34 | mapman | cuz that would explain it |
| 14:40.35 | Dustin | Yes |
| 14:40.38 | Dustin | He does not |
| 14:40.40 | XorioZ | yes |
| 14:44.09 | bone123 | player are never turned into comp |
| 14:44.20 | bone123 | never ever |
| 14:44.37 | mapman | aw |
| 14:44.52 | mapman | then why does the players unit stay with his name on it |
| 14:45.19 | bone123 | why not, when the map loads all 16 player slots are configured |
| 14:45.32 | XorioZ | youll have to create a trigger that destroys all units for a player that leaves |
| 14:45.59 | Hobrow|Dhugal | is there a way to aplly the changes made in the script test window to your map? |
| 14:46.41 | bone123 | no, you have to edit the source yourself |
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| 14:47.15 | Hobrow|Dhugal | how? :D |
| 14:47.35 | mapman | i thought there were 14 player slots o.0 |
| 14:47.43 | Hobrow|Dhugal | there are 14 |
| 14:47.44 | mapman | two of them cant be users? |
| 14:47.47 | bone123 | 0 is neutral, 15 is hostile |
| 14:47.51 | mapman | ok |
| 14:48.39 | bone123 | what do you mean by how to edit your code? edit it like you create it before presing the test button |
| 14:53.14 | Xan | I might have a complicated question: How would I go about using a Create Persistant effect to search 3 areas with different offsets (in a line) if there are ZERO units (of a certain filter) around? I've only been able to search if there ARE units, not the opposite. |
| 14:53.57 | Xan | and if there are no units in all offsets, it should initiate another effect |
| 14:57.11 | bone123 | you can use enum area validators to assure an area is mepty |
| 14:57.31 | Xan | in the search area effect? |
| 14:58.15 | mapman | guys how do i make it so that regardless of what spot players are in in lobby their player numbers be from 1 to number of active players |
| 14:58.25 | mapman | and not like 1,4 ,7, 12, 13, 14 |
| 14:58.30 | XorioZ | OAKMEAL!!! and kittuns. |
| 14:58.53 | XorioZ | why you need that? |
| 14:59.00 | Dustin | You dont mapman |
| 14:59.02 | Dustin | cant |
| 14:59.08 | bone123 | the player numbers should be set by the order of joining the lobby and not the spot in the lobby |
| 14:59.09 | Dustin | slot = player in lobby |
| 15:00.34 | bone123 | @xan instead of seaerch areas use effect trigger if an enum validator says 0 units |
| 15:01.59 | Xan | ah, how would I use it in conjuction with the create persistant effects, so it validates every count? and only runs an effect if all areas are empty? |
| 15:03.52 | mapman | i dont? :/ |
| 15:04.09 | mapman | ok then |
| 15:04.28 | mapman | is there a way to oblige players in lobby to bee at the lowest possible spot |
| 15:04.29 | bone123 | don't know if it works but: have the persistent effect launch 3 apply buff effects at the positions. apply a buffs 3 times on the caster but only if the area is empty. count the stacks with another validator |
| 15:04.40 | mapman | so that when you join 5th you cant move from 5th spot |
| 15:05.00 | bone123 | why is this so important? |
| 15:05.05 | mapman | cuz |
| 15:05.11 | mapman | i got a trigger |
| 15:05.17 | Xan | ahh, good idea bone123, will try that thanks |
| 15:05.18 | bone123 | maybe adjust the map to the system and dnot the system to your map^^ |
| 15:05.27 | mapman | that is |
| 15:05.43 | mapman | pick each integer from 1 to number of active players |
| 15:05.52 | bone123 | if you lock the playerslots, they are unable to move themself around |
| 15:05.58 | mapman | and i assumed that each one of them would match a player |
| 15:06.12 | mapman | oh i can do that? |
| 15:06.14 | bone123 | pick every player in active player |
| 15:06.14 | mapman | cool |
| 15:06.30 | mapman | yea i coul try that bone |
| 15:06.31 | mapman | let me try |
| 15:06.47 | XorioZ | dont use pick each in't for that. use for each player in player group |
| 15:06.56 | bone123 | don't use computer players for the ai slots, just leave them unused and give it units. still works |
| 15:08.40 | mapman | ok but if theres players 1,4 and 7 in the game and i do pick each players from 1 to 3, will it pick 1,4 and 7 or 1,2,3? |
| 15:09.00 | Dustin | no |
| 15:09.02 | bone123 | pcik every active player and it will pick 1,4 and 7 |
| 15:09.04 | Dustin | You pick ALL players |
| 15:09.12 | Dustin | Itll give you every player id that is avtice |
| 15:09.20 | Dustin | starting from 1 - 16 |
| 15:09.28 | Dustin | or 14 |
| 15:09.34 | bone123 | you can'T get player 0 and 15?! |
| 15:09.35 | Dustin | or whatever the player limit is |
| 15:09.41 | Dustin | They arnet active players |
| 15:09.47 | Dustin | They are neutral and hostile :P |
| 15:09.57 | bone123 | yeah^^ |
| 15:09.59 | Dustin | You get them in Pick Player in All Players |
| 15:10.07 | bone123 | doubt it |
| 15:10.11 | Dustin | You do |
| 15:10.41 | mapman | how do i do a pick each active player |
| 15:10.49 | mapman | is there a function specificly for that? |
| 15:10.51 | Dustin | Pick Each Player in Active Players |
| 15:10.54 | Dustin | Yes |
| 15:11.11 | Dustin | Then you use PickedPlayer() for your reference |
| 15:11.46 | bone123 | if you have computer players or somebody adds computer players in the lobby, just check: if picked player = user do foo() |
| 15:12.09 | Dustin | You can check player status |
| 15:12.15 | Dustin | to see if they are a comp |
| 15:12.29 | bone123 | its controler of pciked player isn't it |
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| 15:12.56 | bone123 | status returns left, unused, active |
| 15:14.01 | Dustin | ya |
| 15:14.07 | Dustin | Controller of Picked Player = Computer |
| 15:15.20 | bone123 | sc2m has to come back online^^ need someone with dds knowledge |
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| 15:16.07 | mapman | can you make it impossible to add comps in lobby? |
| 15:16.20 | bone123 | yes |
| 15:16.26 | mapman | cool where? |
| 15:16.43 | mapman | attributes? |
| 15:16.44 | mapman | variants? |
| 15:17.49 | bone123 | change the slots in variant frm default to open i guess |
| 15:18.05 | Dustin | I think you can make it User slot only |
| 15:18.09 | Dustin | And not let them add a comp |
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| 16:03.39 | XorioZ | silence of the irc channel |
| 16:03.55 | XorioZ | even more scary then silence of the lambs |
| 16:04.23 | Dresnia | SILENCE |
| 16:04.24 | Dresnia | THIS |
| 16:04.25 | Dresnia | IS |
| 16:04.27 | Dresnia | DRESNIAAAAA |
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| 16:04.46 | XorioZ | even more awsome then Sparta |
| 16:04.57 | XorioZ | we are averyting better |
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| 16:06.13 | XorioZ | Game over man.. Game Over! |
| 16:06.22 | Dresnia | You a wizard ? |
| 16:06.32 | XorioZ | yes i am |
| 16:06.40 | XorioZ | how did you guese? |
| 16:07.03 | Dresnia | causse you making even worst english typo's then me |
| 16:07.29 | XorioZ | aww Dresnia is trying to be cute |
| 16:07.39 | XorioZ | But it's not working |
| 16:07.53 | Dresnia | I'm never cute |
| 16:07.59 | Dresnia | http://www.banelingbbq.com/?comic=19 |
| 16:08.00 | XorioZ | grrrr... >:G |
| 16:08.23 | mapman | If anyone kn ows how to make the function unit from unit group matching condition to exclude a perticular unit then LET ME KNO |
| 16:08.30 | mapman | shit is pissing me off |
| 16:08.34 | Dresnia | gtfo |
| 16:08.40 | mapman | wow bm |
| 16:09.48 | XorioZ | hmm mapman you have a unit group and you want to make a function that excludes a cerin type of unit or just one specifik unit? |
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| 16:10.04 | mapman | no |
| 16:11.17 | mapman | my bad |
| 16:11.37 | XorioZ | specifiks i NEED specifiks. or ill die. you want to have that on your contiesness? that and my spelling? |
| 16:11.42 | mapman | the function "number of living units in unit group matchiung conditions" |
| 16:12.01 | mapman | I want the condition to exclude units |
| 16:12.12 | XorioZ | that are dead |
| 16:12.24 | mapman | PARTICULAR units |
| 16:12.46 | XorioZ | ok particular units that are dead? |
| 16:12.49 | mapman | I already exclude structures and broodlings and sutff like that |
| 16:12.55 | mapman | no |
| 16:12.58 | mapman | that are living lol |
| 16:13.26 | XorioZ | ok so it's not unit types but units then. |
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| 16:14.27 | mapman | nono |
| 16:14.33 | mapman | a particular UNIT TYPE |
| 16:14.36 | mapman | :D |
| 16:14.48 | XorioZ | well that's easy :) |
| 16:14.54 | mapman | ???????????? |
| 16:14.56 | mapman | TELL ME |
| 16:14.56 | XorioZ | for each unit in unit group |
| 16:14.58 | mapman | :D:D:D |
| 16:15.03 | Dresnia | anyone has a good wireless headset with a mic ? |
| 16:15.04 | Rnuomer | hi =:D |
| 16:15.09 | Dresnia | That can last like 10hours or so |
| 16:15.59 | XorioZ | and then an if statement that cheks if unit type of unit picked unit is something something |
| 16:17.21 | XorioZ | then ither remove the unit from the unit group or create a new unit group with all the units that did not pass the if statement. or you could simply execute whatever code within the loop for each unit. |
| 16:17.29 | XorioZ | depending on what you are doin |
| 16:18.38 | XorioZ | ill make a quick trigger that sorts out zerglings and take a screanshot of it. |
| 16:25.09 | XorioZ | here mapman |
| 16:25.10 | XorioZ | http://xorioz.users.whitehat.dk/unit-group-sort.jpg |
| 16:25.19 | mapman | hey |
| 16:25.30 | mapman | oh cool |
| 16:25.30 | mapman | tks |
| 16:25.35 | XorioZ | np |
| 16:25.56 | XorioZ | i should have my editor open at all times. |
| 16:26.37 | mapman | yea good call |
| 16:26.40 | mapman | didnt think of that hehe |
| 16:26.47 | mapman | sometimes its so simple |
| 16:26.54 | mapman | and you look for complicated way |
| 16:27.12 | mapman | thats what I specialize it |
| 16:27.14 | mapman | in* |
| 16:27.25 | mapman | losing time making useless stuff while building a map |
| 16:29.16 | mapman | ok but xorioz |
| 16:29.22 | mapman | it would be simpler |
| 16:29.40 | mapman | oh wait a sec |
| 16:30.53 | mapman | it would be much more conveinient for me if it was excluded from the living units in... function |
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| 16:31.07 | mapman | than from adding it in the group |
| 16:35.01 | XorioZ | well you can make a function that returns units except the unit you want to exclude |
| 16:35.15 | XorioZ | look up on how to use function declerations |
| 16:35.37 | mapman | yea i think imma make a pick each unit"if unit = xx then remove unit from unit group |
| 16:35.55 | XorioZ | 'im reading my weakly manga right now so i have the atention span of a dog whos ass has been lit on fire |
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| 16:39.13 | mapman | :D |
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| 17:04.12 | bone123 | need a name for a rank higher than gosu |
| 17:11.44 | Dresnia | Anyone in here knows some good pc accesoires ? |
| 17:11.49 | Dresnia | mice/keyb/heads |
| 17:12.10 | Dresnia | currently considering a G series logitech keybo and a steelseries v5 h2 thingy as headset |
| 17:12.23 | Dresnia | I bought all the mices out there, they all don't fit my huge hand >_> |
| 17:12.41 | Nash|327 | I AWAKEN. |
| 17:13.08 | Nash|327 | FROM THE DARKEST DEPTHS OF THE DEEPEST ABYSS, I ARISE. |
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| 17:14.03 | Nash|327 | SURRENDER YOUR KITTUNBAGS OR PREPARE TO FACE OBLIVION. |
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| 17:16.53 | Ibebusiness_ | I like how darkest and deepest are switched in that sentance |
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| 17:18.57 | bone123 | @dresnia even the round logitech like g500 are too small? |
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| 17:20.02 | Nash|327 | I have an MX518, which I like a lot. |
| 17:20.14 | Nash|327 | Hardly a new model, but it's good. |
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| 17:20.41 | burne- | ooh yeaa |
| 17:20.53 | burne- | watched game of thrones, it was gooood |
| 17:21.02 | bone123 | replaced my mx518 with a g500. it is the same mouse but newer^^ |
| 17:21.07 | burne- | damn again one series that has no new episodes :( |
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| 17:25.23 | burne- | MORE DRAGONS PLS |
| 17:26.02 | Dresnia | G500 looks bigger then my current |
| 17:26.36 | burne- | thats what she said |
| 17:26.37 | burne- | :E |
| 17:26.53 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 17:26.56 | Nash|327 | Dresnia |
| 17:27.01 | Nash|327 | were we going to test or |
| 17:27.05 | Dresnia | http://i.testfreaks.nl/images/products/340x170/117/logitech-mx400-performance-laser-mouse.551029.jpg & http://www.decomputerwinkel.nl/winkel/img/producten/2234_volledig.jpg |
| 17:27.07 | SoulTaker916__ | Rises from hell |
| 17:27.09 | Dresnia | I got these atm |
| 17:27.10 | SoulTaker916__ | yawns |
| 17:27.12 | Dresnia | both kinda small |
| 17:27.17 | Dresnia | Nash I'm online ! |
| 17:27.31 | Dresnia | any other EU wna test |
| 17:27.32 | Nash|327 | on Bnet? :G |
| 17:27.35 | Dresnia | y |
| 17:27.43 | Nash|327 | Gotta check/publish map though |
| 17:27.48 | Dresnia | oki |
| 17:28.09 | Nash|327 | so no stuff is commented out etc :G |
| 17:28.47 | Dresnia | wtf man |
| 17:28.53 | Dresnia | G19 keyboard is 180 |
| 17:28.56 | Dresnia | -_- |
| 17:29.06 | Dresnia | I'll just get a standard steelseries really |
| 17:29.16 | Dresnia | that fancy display and shit is just fun for a few hours |
| 17:29.20 | Dresnia | then its just useless I bet |
| 17:29.48 | Dresnia | http://shop.steelseries.com/index.php/audio/steelseries-5h-v2.html |
| 17:29.53 | Dresnia | This is the headset I'm tempting |
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| 17:33.45 | Nash|327 | everything looks go |
| 17:33.58 | Nash|327 | publish... |
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| 18:05.35 | vail | hello folks |
| 18:18.30 | Otixa | Dresnia, I haz a Mamba :D |
| 18:19.10 | Dresnia | =) |
| 18:20.54 | Otixa | Might be getting an Orochi tho |
| 18:21.07 | vail | i think my desktop's power supply failed overnight |
| 18:21.10 | Dresnia | I just want Diablo 3 PFFF |
| 18:21.19 | burne- | OROCHI |
| 18:21.19 | Otixa | ...Or the new Mamba |
| 18:21.19 | Dresnia | My 300W supply owns you all |
| 18:21.22 | burne- | I HATHAT BASTARD |
| 18:21.27 | Otixa | xD |
| 18:21.28 | burne- | had to fight him 3 times |
| 18:21.32 | Otixa | br, how come? |
| 18:21.38 | Otixa | ¬¬ |
| 18:21.41 | Otixa | The mouse |
| 18:21.45 | Otixa | smacks burne- |
| 18:21.47 | burne- | :) |
| 18:23.32 | XorioZ | oh hay vail |
| 18:23.42 | vail | hey |
| 18:23.43 | XorioZ | i uploaded the first two videos |
| 18:23.46 | XorioZ | :P |
| 18:24.04 | XorioZ | http://www.youtube.com/user/xoriozme |
| 18:24.25 | vail | i will take a look if i can get my desktop running again |
| 18:24.44 | SoulTaker916__ | soom one call for a technition? |
| 18:24.50 | SoulTaker916__ | :P |
| 18:25.00 | XorioZ | ahh power supply problems. that stinks |
| 18:25.24 | XorioZ | hehe Dresnia mine is at 1100W |
| 18:25.32 | vail | monday i will be getting the desktop checked out to see if it really is the power supply |
| 18:26.17 | XorioZ | is it pre asembled computer with some sort of worenty that brakes if you open it? |
| 18:26.34 | vail | but thats going to cost me the money i was saving to buy HitFilm |
| 18:26.37 | SoulTaker916__ | why not test it urself? |
| 18:26.45 | XorioZ | if not then why not chek it yourself |
| 18:26.51 | vail | because i dont have the tools |
| 18:27.07 | SoulTaker916__ | u dont have power supplys laying around or anything? |
| 18:27.13 | vail | no |
| 18:27.15 | SoulTaker916__ | u hae have accouple of mine |
| 18:27.16 | SoulTaker916__ | :P |
| 18:27.18 | SoulTaker916__ | if u egt them |
| 18:27.24 | XorioZ | you dont have a screwdriver and a hairpin or other form of electrical conductor? |
| 18:27.42 | SoulTaker916__ | Xirioz |
| 18:27.46 | SoulTaker916__ | explain that to me |
| 18:28.43 | vail | any one know if a computer has an auxillary power switch on the back somewhere.. |
| 18:29.05 | SoulTaker916__ | usaly they have a european voltage writch |
| 18:29.08 | SoulTaker916__ | switch |
| 18:29.12 | SoulTaker916__ | a red tab |
| 18:29.13 | XorioZ | to test if its the powersupply if the computer dosent power up that is all you have to do is remove the powersupply and shortcirkit two wires on the main cable that normaly goes to the motherboard |
| 18:29.32 | XorioZ | dont tuch the switch |
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| 18:29.41 | tordy | is it up yet |
| 18:30.15 | XorioZ | if thair is one it will most certenly burn out your powersupply and if it's a cheap one it will allso burn out your motherboard |
| 18:30.37 | XorioZ | so dont tuch the red switch if thair is one |
| 18:30.54 | SoulTaker916__ | :P |
| 18:31.04 | SoulTaker916__ | most powersupply will not burn out |
| 18:31.08 | SoulTaker916__ | but the cheep ones will |
| 18:31.15 | SoulTaker916__ | if u touvch the red writch |
| 18:31.15 | SoulTaker916__ | :P |
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| 18:33.00 | vail | an article i read mentioned an axullery power swicth on the back of the computer not the voltage switch |
| 18:33.14 | XorioZ | anyways if you shortcirkit the wireson the psu as i said and turn the psu on and it runs then it's most likely not the psu. you can easely find a diagram online that tells you how to do it. |
| 18:33.44 | XorioZ | well thair is an on off switch on the back of most if not all computers |
| 18:34.04 | vail | ah |
| 18:34.14 | vail | that may be my issue then |
| 18:34.24 | SoulTaker916__ | na |
| 18:34.33 | SoulTaker916__ | i hvae seen plenty that dont have it |
| 18:34.38 | SoulTaker916__ | expecialy the ones at work |
| 18:34.54 | vail | some stuff fell back behind the computer last night after i shut it down and now it wont start back up |
| 18:35.21 | XorioZ | but something as fancy as an auxillery power switch (as in extra psu cerkit) is only something heigh end servers would have |
| 18:35.39 | SoulTaker916__ | well |
| 18:35.43 | SoulTaker916__ | if somthing feel down |
| 18:35.47 | SoulTaker916__ | check the power strip |
| 18:35.48 | XorioZ | well try to see if thair is an on off switch on the back then |
| 18:35.52 | SoulTaker916__ | u got a voltage metter? |
| 18:36.00 | vail | no |
| 18:36.06 | SoulTaker916__ | omg vail |
| 18:36.10 | SoulTaker916__ | u got nothing |
| 18:36.11 | SoulTaker916__ | :/ |
| 18:36.18 | vail | and the pc is getting power.. |
| 18:36.31 | vail | it just wont turn on |
| 18:36.46 | XorioZ | i'm allmost inclined to ask if you are a girl vail but that would be to sexist of me :P |
| 18:36.51 | XorioZ | ups i said it. |
| 18:36.57 | vail | im not |
| 18:37.01 | XorioZ | hehe |
| 18:37.07 | XorioZ | i guesed so |
| 18:37.20 | vail | i am los es male |
| 18:37.50 | vail | and i use spanish improperly becuase im an ass |
| 18:38.13 | XorioZ | i'm el fuego |
| 18:38.30 | XorioZ | we are all ass's |
| 18:39.30 | XorioZ | it simply wont turn on |
| 18:40.08 | XorioZ | and you have cheked to see if the power cable hoing in to your powersupply isen't lose |
| 18:40.17 | XorioZ | *going |
| 18:41.45 | burne- | god damn its so slow to make cinematics |
| 18:42.01 | SoulTaker916__ | bob took me 5 hours |
| 18:42.04 | SoulTaker916__ | to do that cinema |
| 18:42.05 | burne- | but I still wana do my great ideas as cinematic... |
| 18:42.24 | burne- | 5 hours....that aint a lot (i have know idea what bob is) |
| 18:42.38 | SoulTaker916__ | nvm XD |
| 18:42.58 | vail | yes |
| 18:43.07 | vail | everything is seccurly connected |
| 18:43.15 | SoulTaker916__ | hm... |
| 18:43.17 | SoulTaker916__ | then... |
| 18:43.32 | vail | i think either the MB or the PSU died lastenight |
| 18:43.32 | SoulTaker916__ | i duno is that outlet working and stuff? |
| 18:43.42 | SoulTaker916__ | oh, IS A KEYBOARD PLUGGED IN |
| 18:43.54 | SoulTaker916__ | my comp wont turn on without a keyboard |
| 18:43.57 | SoulTaker916__ | its a bios thing |
| 18:44.02 | SoulTaker916__ | and mouse |
| 18:44.18 | XorioZ | wtw??? is a keybord plugged in.. what has that got to do with anything? |
| 18:44.22 | vail | i bet it was the update to ie9 |
| 18:44.25 | SoulTaker916__ | the bios |
| 18:44.29 | SoulTaker916__ | dude |
| 18:44.31 | SoulTaker916__ | for real? |
| 18:44.36 | SoulTaker916__ | u didnt know that |
| 18:44.37 | vail | no not really |
| 18:44.42 | SoulTaker916__ | somcomputers have bios settings |
| 18:44.53 | SoulTaker916__ | were they wont start without a keyboard/mouse present |
| 18:45.13 | SoulTaker916__ | mine does that, i would turn it off but i dont see why i should waist my anme |
| 18:45.13 | vail | my would start with out either present |
| 18:45.16 | SoulTaker916__ | ya |
| 18:45.20 | SoulTaker916__ | uh... |
| 18:45.34 | SoulTaker916__ | shit make sure the outlet is good thats my last suggestion |
| 18:45.42 | vail | the outlet is good |
| 18:45.52 | vail | the powersupply is receiving power |
| 18:46.06 | vail | its just not being distrubted to the rest of the computer |
| 18:46.40 | XorioZ | well never owned a computer that did that nither have any of my friends and that just about encompasses allmost avery mid to heigh end motherbord from the last 12 years. |
| 18:47.12 | vail | i have low end i think it was a cheap hp pavillion |
| 18:47.15 | SoulTaker916__ | i build my comp |
| 18:47.19 | SoulTaker916__ | all hgh end parts |
| 18:47.24 | XorioZ | so that's why it surprises me. especialy today when the ps2 standart is allmost dead |
| 18:47.26 | SoulTaker916__ | its just a bios setting |
| 18:47.29 | SoulTaker916__ | u can change it |
| 18:47.34 | XorioZ | oh |
| 18:47.42 | SoulTaker916__ | i build it this year |
| 18:47.42 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 18:47.46 | SoulTaker916__ | built* |
| 18:47.55 | SoulTaker916__ | well i rebuild it every year |
| 18:47.57 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 18:48.53 | XorioZ | i stopped my upgrade crazynes about a year ago. it was time to stop keep using money on computer upgrades all the time just becouse i wanted a fast computer |
| 18:49.11 | XorioZ | i have owned so many computers it's insane |
| 18:49.33 | SoulTaker916__ | my friends bring me old broken down computers |
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| 18:49.38 | SoulTaker916__ | and i rebuild them all the time |
| 18:49.43 | SoulTaker916__ | then sell them for 20$ |
| 18:49.45 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 18:49.56 | XorioZ | there should be some sort of mentall institute for computer adictiveness |
| 18:50.10 | SoulTaker916__ | na i spend about 200$ a year for like a new motherboard or some part |
| 18:50.18 | SoulTaker916__ | maybe a video card |
| 18:50.28 | XorioZ | hmm let me calqulate a bit. |
| 18:50.30 | SoulTaker916__ | i got hyper focus |
| 18:50.42 | SoulTaker916__ | its a form of add they tell me |
| 18:50.49 | SoulTaker916__ | common for computer sci majors |
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| 18:52.04 | XorioZ | i probebly spended about $2000 to $2500 a year when my craze was at it's heighest |
| 18:52.24 | SoulTaker916__ | ya |
| 18:52.27 | SoulTaker916__ | im not that bad |
| 18:52.49 | SoulTaker916__ | my books tell technitions should recommend 400-600$ every 5 years |
| 18:52.53 | SoulTaker916__ | for normal users |
| 18:53.07 | SoulTaker916__ | they call it a nook |
| 18:53.23 | SoulTaker916__ | were ur computer isnt too old and isnt too powerfull and overpriced |
| 18:53.48 | HeyRevolverPC | whats the timer event for "every __ seconds of game time" i cant remember |
| 18:54.03 | XorioZ | well i spend 0 this year so far and my computer is still plenty powerfull |
| 18:54.09 | SoulTaker916__ | periodic event? |
| 18:54.21 | SoulTaker916__ | yep XD |
| 18:54.22 | XorioZ | periodic event |
| 18:55.24 | HeyRevolverPC | thanks |
| 18:55.34 | SoulTaker916__ | u can also do a wait timer |
| 18:55.37 | SoulTaker916__ | and run trigger |
| 18:55.42 | SoulTaker916__ | i dont know why i do that |
| 18:55.51 | SoulTaker916__ | but i feel more confortable doing it |
| 18:58.26 | SoulTaker916__ | u guys ever seen the aim chicks who try to get u to see thier webcam? |
| 18:59.10 | XorioZ | nope? |
| 18:59.17 | XorioZ | aim? |
| 18:59.32 | SoulTaker916__ | Aol instant messager |
| 18:59.36 | SoulTaker916__ | or msn messanger |
| 18:59.43 | XorioZ | never |
| 18:59.58 | XorioZ | not that lucky i guese |
| 18:59.59 | SoulTaker916__ | well theres these chick who will talk to u to try to get u to pay |
| 19:00.04 | SoulTaker916__ | to view thier webcam |
| 19:00.10 | SoulTaker916__ | keyword pay money |
| 19:00.10 | XorioZ | oh |
| 19:00.16 | SoulTaker916__ | i get them all the time |
| 19:00.41 | SoulTaker916__ | but its funny cause i get board |
| 19:00.47 | SoulTaker916__ | and talk to this one all casual |
| 19:00.52 | XorioZ | you must have gotten your email on some bad email list |
| 19:00.54 | SoulTaker916__ | as she trys to get to to pay |
| 19:00.59 | SoulTaker916__ | *not even hiutting on her* |
| 19:01.06 | SoulTaker916__ | just board and talking about computers |
| 19:01.07 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 19:01.14 | XorioZ | haha |
| 19:01.21 | SoulTaker916__ | i think shes pissed |
| 19:01.26 | SoulTaker916__ | cause shes not talking to me |
| 19:01.51 | SoulTaker916__ | was was active better than my gf does when i talk about computers |
| 19:01.54 | XorioZ | i will talk to you for money... maan |
| 19:01.55 | SoulTaker916__ | she was really into it |
| 19:01.55 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 19:04.19 | Nash|327 | how the hell do you make a missile dodgable :G |
| 19:04.34 | Nash|327 | boss keeps casting it on the unit, not at point where unit was |
| 19:04.37 | Nash|327 | D; |
| 19:11.01 | SoulTaker916__ | a missle |
| 19:11.02 | SoulTaker916__ | is a unit |
| 19:11.05 | SoulTaker916__ | like anything else |
| 19:11.12 | SoulTaker916__ | make the targeting filter |
| 19:11.18 | SoulTaker916__ | accept missles as target |
| 19:12.05 | Nash|327 | trying a persist approach |
| 19:12.35 | vail | i would help nash but by desktop is down for the count |
| 19:13.14 | SoulTaker916__ | vail if u had a external hdd |
| 19:13.19 | SoulTaker916__ | u can eject it |
| 19:13.28 | SoulTaker916__ | and plug it into a anohter |
| 19:13.28 | SoulTaker916__ | or |
| 19:13.38 | SoulTaker916__ | if u have hot swap acpi |
| 19:13.47 | SoulTaker916__ | u can transfer iot |
| 19:13.49 | vail | i dont |
| 19:14.04 | SoulTaker916__ | or if u have multi ports for ide/sata u can restart and plug |
| 19:14.07 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 19:14.38 | vail | i am just going to get it examined monday by a professional |
| 19:15.34 | tordy | hello |
| 19:15.40 | vail | hello |
| 19:15.42 | SoulTaker916__ | hi |
| 19:15.54 | SoulTaker916__ | <---is a professional |
| 19:15.55 | SoulTaker916__ | ;/ |
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| 19:34.18 | Mexa | Hello |
| 19:34.38 | SoulTaker916__ | hi |
| 19:36.04 | bone123 | 3 days offline now? |
| 19:36.14 | SoulTaker916__ | who? |
| 19:36.19 | bone123 | we^^ |
| 19:37.05 | vail | drat cant find my sc2 install disk |
| 19:37.35 | SoulTaker916__ | just download it |
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| 19:40.11 | vail | cant download it with out a new key im at the max number of licenses allowed for my one copy |
| 19:40.48 | Triceron | of what |
| 19:41.46 | vail | never mind |
| 19:41.53 | vail | i found it |
| 19:42.42 | vail | wow11 hours to download |
| 19:44.14 | flyingspatula | u think it woould be laggy if i had an invisible unit created thruout the map like a grid |
| 19:44.34 | flyingspatula | so i could use unit hightlight events instead of camera input traffic |
| 19:44.42 | vail | hm. |
| 19:45.02 | flyingspatula | some guy makes a diablo cmaera using unit highlighting instead |
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| 19:45.06 | flyingspatula | but never tested it online |
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| 19:54.18 | Mozared | Karawasa in? |
| 19:56.41 | vail | damn man i may spend 200+ on professional maintance or i could try replacine the powersupply my self.... |
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| 20:00.49 | bone123 | replacing power supply is a joke^^ |
| 20:01.01 | vail | oh? |
| 20:01.40 | bone123 | just don't buy a chinese firecracker^^ |
| 20:01.56 | bone123 | 4 sxrews and a few cables to connect |
| 20:02.30 | bone123 | it is impossible to connect them wrong |
| 20:03.04 | vail | can a power supply fail when the pc is powerd down for the night? |
| 20:03.19 | SoulTaker916__ | if there is a surge technically |
| 20:03.32 | bone123 | powered down? |
| 20:03.44 | vail | well shut down for the night |
| 20:03.56 | vail | i shut my pc down and now it wont start back up |
| 20:04.33 | SoulTaker916__ | hm... |
| 20:04.35 | bone123 | probably did while starting today and not while shuting down |
| 20:04.41 | bone123 | *died |
| 20:04.56 | vail | thats just the thing it didnt start at all |
| 20:05.13 | SoulTaker916__ | in a sec ill pull out one of my text books |
| 20:05.25 | SoulTaker916__ | and look up the list of reasons why computers dont make it to post |
| 20:05.59 | vail | im pretty sure its a hardware component failure.. some where |
| 20:06.07 | Xan | might have been a power spike |
| 20:06.16 | Xan | does it smell burned? |
| 20:06.25 | vail | no |
| 20:07.09 | vail | i dont know if it would help or not but i have the computer plugged into a surger protector power strip |
| 20:08.03 | Xan | is there a light on on the motherboard when you try to turn it on? have you tried reconnecting all cables inside the case? |
| 20:08.20 | vail | no lights on the motherboard |
| 20:08.21 | SoulTaker916__ | oh thats fun |
| 20:08.28 | SoulTaker916__ | the text book pritty much said |
| 20:08.35 | SoulTaker916__ | if ur comp doesnt make it to post |
| 20:08.43 | SoulTaker916__ | check the power input |
| 20:08.49 | Xan | haha |
| 20:08.51 | SoulTaker916__ | if it still doesnt make it to point |
| 20:08.53 | SoulTaker916__ | post* |
| 20:08.57 | SoulTaker916__ | it can be anything |
| 20:09.05 | SoulTaker916__ | and u need to swap test each system |
| 20:09.18 | Xan | well, either its the motherboard, or its the power supply |
| 20:09.25 | Xan | cant be much else |
| 20:09.29 | SoulTaker916__ | and build the computer into a bootstrap configuration |
| 20:09.30 | SoulTaker916__ | :/ |
| 20:09.57 | vail | i looked at the motherboard and as far as i can tell there are no leds or other lights on it period |
| 20:10.11 | SoulTaker916__ | liek the book said, it could be anything |
| 20:10.12 | SoulTaker916__ | :P |
| 20:10.28 | Xan | what brand of power supply do you have? |
| 20:10.39 | SoulTaker916__ | why does brand matter? |
| 20:11.03 | Xan | some are better than others |
| 20:11.13 | SoulTaker916__ | not really |
| 20:11.22 | vail | delta electronics |
| 20:11.38 | Xan | and some tend to break more frequently |
| 20:11.47 | flyingspatula | is there a framerate command for sc2 |
| 20:11.51 | SoulTaker916__ | they come with a list of of satistics kinda hard to make ur same satistics better than someone else same satistics |
| 20:11.53 | SoulTaker916__ | lol |
| 20:12.06 | SoulTaker916__ | frame rate test action |
| 20:12.08 | Xan | ? |
| 20:12.17 | flyingspatula | type that? |
| 20:12.23 | flyingspatula | ohh |
| 20:12.25 | flyingspatula | ok duh lol |
| 20:12.26 | SoulTaker916__ | type test |
| 20:12.41 | Xan | what wattage, vail? |
| 20:13.33 | SoulTaker916__ | ADMIT IT VAIL |
| 20:13.39 | SoulTaker916__ | u changed the little red tab |
| 20:13.45 | vail | no |
| 20:13.47 | SoulTaker916__ | ADMIT IT |
| 20:13.49 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 20:14.11 | Xan | if you get a new power supply I'd recommend corsair |
| 20:14.13 | vail | 350 w |
| 20:14.33 | SoulTaker916__ | well he needs to calculate his computer wattage |
| 20:14.34 | SoulTaker916__ | lol |
| 20:14.41 | SoulTaker916__ | u cant just say 350 |
| 20:14.45 | Xan | thats not a lot, you sure its enough for your rig? |
| 20:14.49 | SoulTaker916__ | cause his compute may need 400 |
| 20:14.50 | Xan | what cpu/graphics card do youy have? |
| 20:14.59 | SoulTaker916__ | oh shit |
| 20:15.01 | SoulTaker916__ | my bad |
| 20:15.06 | SoulTaker916__ | i got u mixed up with xan |
| 20:15.07 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 20:15.11 | SoulTaker916__ | :P |
| 20:15.15 | Xan | lol |
| 20:15.29 | SoulTaker916__ | thought u were continuing |
| 20:15.30 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 20:15.34 | SoulTaker916__ | sorry bout that |
| 20:15.38 | Xan | np |
| 20:15.58 | SoulTaker916__ | theres a accouple websites that have scripts that will calculate how much watt u need |
| 20:16.07 | SoulTaker916__ | u should do about 50-100 wats more than that |
| 20:16.21 | SoulTaker916__ | like my comp sucks down 550wats |
| 20:16.29 | SoulTaker916__ | but i got 750wats so i have room to grow |
| 20:16.35 | vail | no clu about the cpu other than amd dual core |
| 20:16.50 | Xan | getting a higher wattage psu is better, since it uses only what it needs anyways, and it lasts longer |
| 20:17.06 | vail | but the gc is a galaxy geforce nvidia chipset |
| 20:17.08 | Xan | and gets less warm |
| 20:17.29 | Xan | computer is about 5 years old? |
| 20:17.41 | vail | about |
| 20:17.52 | Xan | might be the motherboard, cpu or psu thats broke |
| 20:18.02 | Xan | you should consider upgrading |
| 20:18.16 | vail | cant afford to |
| 20:18.16 | Xan | can get a very decent rig for about 250$ |
| 20:18.35 | vail | and not around here |
| 20:18.44 | SoulTaker916__ | nono |
| 20:18.47 | SoulTaker916__ | u ship it |
| 20:18.50 | Xan | yeah |
| 20:18.52 | SoulTaker916__ | stores over price |
| 20:18.53 | Xan | buy it online |
| 20:19.02 | vail | cant do that either |
| 20:19.06 | vail | i can only pay cahs |
| 20:19.09 | vail | cash |
| 20:19.09 | Xan | why? |
| 20:19.09 | SoulTaker916__ | u on mars? |
| 20:19.49 | vail | i only can pay with cash |
| 20:20.01 | SoulTaker916__ | dont have a debit card? |
| 20:20.07 | vail | no |
| 20:20.14 | vail | not one i can use any way |
| 20:20.21 | SoulTaker916__ | they give u one with a bank account usaly |
| 20:20.24 | vail | its specifically for emegrencies... |
| 20:20.36 | SoulTaker916__ | THIS IS A EMERGRENCY MAN! |
| 20:20.39 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 20:21.11 | Xan | most online stores can send you an invoice that you can use to pay |
| 20:21.18 | Xan | so wont need a debit card |
| 20:22.00 | Xan | otherwise, you'd just have to chance that its the psu, and buy a new one |
| 20:22.13 | Xan | in that case I'd reccommend a corsair 400W for about 30$ |
| 20:22.42 | Xan | 430w* |
| 20:22.56 | SoulTaker916__ | its funny its 60 degrees outside and i have all my windows open |
| 20:23.01 | SoulTaker916__ | and my computer heats my room |
| 20:23.05 | SoulTaker916__ | its awsome.. |
| 20:23.28 | Xan | ^^ |
| 20:23.30 | Xan | rainy here |
| 20:25.21 | SoulTaker916__ | Bwahahaha |
| 20:25.45 | flyingspatula | uh i forget wut do u do when u hit the unit per player cap |
| 20:25.53 | flyingspatula | need player 0 to have like 12491241 invis dummy units |
| 20:25.57 | SoulTaker916__ | supply ap? |
| 20:26.07 | SoulTaker916__ | cap* |
| 20:26.13 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 20:26.19 | SoulTaker916__ | u can lower the supply cost of the unit |
| 20:26.21 | flyingspatula | well i was creating units via trigger tho |
| 20:26.25 | flyingspatula | and it just stops |
| 20:26.26 | SoulTaker916__ | or modify player property via trigger |
| 20:27.00 | SoulTaker916__ | did that help? |
| 20:27.09 | flyingspatula | testin it |
| 20:27.19 | flyingspatula | i have the feeling having a million invis units on the map at all times is a really bad idea |
| 20:27.29 | SoulTaker916__ | yes |
| 20:27.29 | flyingspatula | but it still beats using the camera input trigger |
| 20:27.30 | SoulTaker916__ | it is |
| 20:27.48 | SoulTaker916__ | just make sure to remove the actors |
| 20:27.51 | SoulTaker916__ | for those unit |
| 20:27.59 | flyingspatula | well they need to be highlightable is the thing |
| 20:28.13 | flyingspatula | can that work with no actor |
| 20:28.15 | SoulTaker916__ | they can still be selectable |
| 20:28.18 | SoulTaker916__ | yes |
| 20:28.22 | flyingspatula | ah coool |
| 20:28.29 | SoulTaker916__ | ever had a sphere unit? |
| 20:28.32 | Xan | why do you need a million invisible units? |
| 20:28.36 | SoulTaker916__ | i accedently make them all the time |
| 20:28.37 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 20:28.43 | SoulTaker916__ | same thing |
| 20:28.52 | flyingspatula | well i need a unit every grid point |
| 20:28.54 | flyingspatula | because |
| 20:29.13 | flyingspatula | i need each palyers unit to face and move toward the cursor |
| 20:29.26 | flyingspatula | and i just use the unit highlighted event for that |
| 20:29.50 | Xan | cant you use another way to locate the cursor? |
| 20:29.58 | flyingspatula | unforunate not without causing bnet lag |
| 20:30.25 | SoulTaker916__ | wait |
| 20:30.29 | SoulTaker916__ | i thought there was a |
| 20:30.31 | flyingspatula | only way to detect cursor position is thru a periodic input event aka move camera event |
| 20:30.32 | SoulTaker916__ | action for that |
| 20:30.34 | flyingspatula | which lags horribly |
| 20:30.48 | flyingspatula | and even then u have to convert the UI mouse pos to map pos |
| 20:31.23 | flyingspatula | well no i guess you can use angle from 0,0 of ur screen to xy of ui corser |
| 20:31.37 | SoulTaker916__ | ya |
| 20:31.39 | flyingspatula | but still your firing an input event 16-32 times a second |
| 20:31.40 | SoulTaker916__ | u can use mouse move |
| 20:31.51 | flyingspatula | mouse move lags so bad online its useless :( |
| 20:32.12 | Xan | didnt they add somehting like this in a patch? |
| 20:32.13 | A1win | and mouse move event doesn't fire if mouse stays still and camera moves |
| 20:32.14 | SoulTaker916__ | have u tried |
| 20:32.17 | SoulTaker916__ | to filter it |
| 20:32.23 | SoulTaker916__ | so that the trigger enables |
| 20:32.25 | SoulTaker916__ | and disables |
| 20:32.36 | flyingspatula | well the thing is your camera is kinda moving alot |
| 20:32.40 | SoulTaker916__ | like trigger active then deactive for 3 seconds |
| 20:32.40 | flyingspatula | think diablo movement |
| 20:32.43 | SoulTaker916__ | then active again |
| 20:32.59 | flyingspatula | maybe ill try both ways then compare them online again |
| 20:33.05 | SoulTaker916__ | lock the camera on a unit |
| 20:33.11 | SoulTaker916__ | then have the trigger |
| 20:33.11 | A1win | if the camera is locked to the unit, why not only have your highlight dummy units around each player instead of all over the map? |
| 20:33.18 | SoulTaker916__ | test mouse location once every 3 min |
| 20:33.22 | SoulTaker916__ | i mena 3 seconds |
| 20:33.28 | SoulTaker916__ | that way there isnt network traffic |
| 20:33.35 | flyingspatula | meh thats kinda slow tho XD |
| 20:33.43 | SoulTaker916__ | well |
| 20:33.47 | SoulTaker916__ | u can do 1 second or .5 |
| 20:33.57 | SoulTaker916__ | based on howmuch net traffic can handle |
| 20:34.03 | flyingspatula | well |
| 20:34.04 | SoulTaker916__ | but i suspect |
| 20:34.11 | flyingspatula | im already having mouse click traffic |
| 20:34.11 | SoulTaker916__ | its doing every .001 seconds |
| 20:34.14 | SoulTaker916__ | and causing lag |
| 20:34.24 | SoulTaker916__ | that might be because of the units |
| 20:34.45 | SoulTaker916__ | ima test it atually.. |
| 20:34.48 | flyingspatula | i think move camera fires every 16th of a second |
| 20:34.56 | SoulTaker916__ | ya |
| 20:35.01 | SoulTaker916__ | u should have that slowed also |
| 20:35.02 | flyingspatula | i mean its fine online until u have like 3-4+ ppl |
| 20:35.05 | flyingspatula | moving around at once |
| 20:35.05 | SoulTaker916__ | to like 1 second |
| 20:35.15 | SoulTaker916__ | im curious |
| 20:35.18 | SoulTaker916__ | so im going to test it |
| 20:35.24 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 20:35.27 | flyingspatula | well |
| 20:35.34 | flyingspatula | i COULD just make a non rotationary movement |
| 20:35.38 | flyingspatula | and just click and hold in one direction |
| 20:35.43 | flyingspatula | but gets kinda annoying after a while |
| 20:36.37 | A1win | that's why I'm using the default SC2 controls (for the most part) in my rpg :P |
| 20:36.42 | flyingspatula | hah yeah |
| 20:36.57 | flyingspatula | jus unforuantely what im wanting to make doesnt have the same feeling with default control |
| 20:37.08 | flyingspatula | its the right click to move that ruins it |
| 20:37.20 | Triceron | I had a crazy idea yesterday |
| 20:37.21 | Mexatee | [22:34] <SoulTaker916__> its doing every .001 seconds -That means it it is doing it every 0.0625 seconds |
| 20:37.27 | A1win | mm... have to design whole control scheme based on the default controls |
| 20:37.27 | Triceron | 3rd person RTS |
| 20:37.47 | A1win | though I did change my attacking so that the unit can shoot towards points on the ground instead of just at units |
| 20:38.08 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 20:38.13 | flyingspatula | well my map is a chase map |
| 20:38.16 | Triceron | commanding armies in a 3rd person view |
| 20:38.18 | flyingspatula | so the right click just totally ruins it lol |
| 20:38.19 | flyingspatula | unforuantely |
| 20:38.22 | A1win | heh |
| 20:38.55 | Triceron | and have command abilities that would help direct troops around |
| 20:38.56 | A1win | Triceron, sounds quite impractical |
| 20:39.08 | Triceron | think of Pikmin |
| 20:39.11 | Xan | first person rts |
| 20:39.12 | Triceron | or Overlord |
| 20:39.32 | A1win | dunno what those are ;p |
| 20:39.35 | Triceron | essentially the mobs you control would have to obey commands and probably need some basic AI so they follow you |
| 20:39.49 | Triceron | Overlord? Pikmin? They're 3rd person RTS essentially |
| 20:40.04 | A1win | probably not very good ones since I haven't heard about them =P |
| 20:40.16 | Triceron | er |
| 20:40.33 | Triceron | Pikmin is made by Miyamoto |
| 20:40.33 | Xan | they're not real rts |
| 20:40.40 | Xan | more like adventure games |
| 20:40.55 | Triceron | well RTS in terms that you command armies |
| 20:41.09 | Triceron | but I don't mean conventional RTS where you micromanage everything |
| 20:41.13 | Triceron | just that you command armies in 3rd person |
| 20:41.16 | A1win | even natural-selection isn't a first person RTS, it's a hybrid between RTS and FPS |
| 20:41.40 | Triceron | think of it as a complimenting feature to a Action RPG in 3rd person |
| 20:41.42 | A1win | Triceron, mm that could work somehow |
| 20:41.51 | SoulTaker916__ | ok done |
| 20:41.56 | Triceron | well think of it. YOu have a button that says 'select all units around me' |
| 20:41.57 | SoulTaker916__ | 07flyingspatula01 |
| 20:42.00 | A1win | but yeah would require very good AI |
| 20:42.06 | Triceron | then you have a button that says 'attack target I select' |
| 20:42.16 | Triceron | those two alone open some options |
| 20:42.23 | Xan | like |
| 20:42.26 | Xan | WoW pets |
| 20:42.34 | Triceron | you get the feeling that you're in control but you're IN the battle itself |
| 20:42.34 | Triceron | yeah |
| 20:42.39 | flyingspatula | sup |
| 20:42.45 | SoulTaker916__ | im uploading it |
| 20:42.46 | Triceron | extensive WoW-pets, if you controlled many of em |
| 20:42.47 | SoulTaker916__ | whana test? |
| 20:42.49 | SoulTaker916__ | with e? |
| 20:42.50 | SoulTaker916__ | me? |
| 20:42.54 | flyingspatula | sure |
| 20:43.06 | SoulTaker916__ | 1 sec |
| 20:43.10 | Triceron | I was playing around with 3rd person yesterday and I found I was still able to select and make units follow my WASD movement |
| 20:43.17 | Triceron | and it actually looked pretty cool |
| 20:43.18 | flyingspatula | sigh i guess my highligh route wont work anyway since i can only produce like 200 max units or something i dunno what the deal is |
| 20:43.22 | Triceron | having multiple units follow you around |
| 20:43.41 | Xan | they follow you intelligently or run into things? :) |
| 20:43.48 | Triceron | but I couldn't use any commands other than 'attack' |
| 20:43.56 | Triceron | well it's like RTS |
| 20:43.58 | SoulTaker916__ | h/o the test is finda funky |
| 20:44.00 | Triceron | you select a bunch of units |
| 20:44.04 | SoulTaker916__ | i got veriables mixed up |
| 20:44.06 | Triceron | and they follow each other's commands |
| 20:44.09 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 20:44.10 | A1win | flyingspatula, it should be possible to spawn thousands |
| 20:44.12 | Triceron | cept you're controlling it with WASD |
| 20:44.17 | Xan | do they follow in formation? |
| 20:44.19 | flyingspatula | ahhh what is the deal then |
| 20:44.19 | Xan | or in a bunch? |
| 20:44.29 | A1win | no idea :F |
| 20:44.43 | A1win | you're using the "create unit" action to create them? |
| 20:44.46 | Triceron | I think it was bunching up |
| 20:44.53 | Triceron | I don't think SC2 has formations the way War3 had em |
| 20:45.06 | flyingspatula | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.19 | Xan | unless you use a bit of trigonometry |
| 20:45.19 | Triceron | units sorta group up in a bunch rather than having melee in front or whatever |
| 20:45.19 | flyingspatula | should extend from top left to bototm right |
| 20:45.19 | A1win | hmm actually you can't spawn thousands of units at the same time, you need waits somewhere in between |
| 20:45.26 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 20:45.28 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 20:45.30 | flyingspatula | might be the prob |
| 20:45.36 | Xan | check out the escort missions in sc2, e.g. the agria one |
| 20:45.42 | Xan | where they form around the vehicles |
| 20:45.48 | A1win | how big is the map? |
| 20:45.59 | Triceron | yeah that's a good idea |
| 20:46.07 | Triceron | that's the sort of thing I'm thinking of |
| 20:46.11 | A1win | I once tried spawning 10k hidden, paused units and the game began to lag horribly |
| 20:46.24 | Triceron | like have them swarm around and follow you , but in formation, and something that doesn't freak out when you turn around a lot |
| 20:46.38 | flyingspatula | sigh it still wont work haha dunno wtf is wrong o well |
| 20:46.51 | Triceron | but even if it's limited, it would be fun to be Kerrigan and command a bunch of Zerglings or something |
| 20:47.21 | A1win | flyingspatula, what size is the map? |
| 20:47.22 | Triceron | and just have a few simple hotkeys to direct them to come back or go forward to atttack |
| 20:47.34 | flyingspatula | 128 |
| 20:47.52 | Xan | I tried putting 10000 doodads on top of eachother |
| 20:47.54 | A1win | so you're trying to spawn 16k units on it? :X |
| 20:47.56 | flyingspatula | o shit thats like 16k units lol nvm |
| 20:47.59 | flyingspatula | rofl |
| 20:48.00 | A1win | not a good idea |
| 20:48.14 | flyingspatula | well actually ill change it to plyabale |
| 20:48.18 | flyingspatula | map area |
| 20:48.19 | A1win | why not do it like I suggested earlier |
| 20:48.24 | flyingspatula | what di du suggest |
| 20:48.27 | A1win | only spawn the units aroudn the players and move them along them |
| 20:48.36 | A1win | so that there are always untis within each player's camera view |
| 20:48.42 | A1win | *units |
| 20:48.51 | flyingspatula | thats sorta gonna require constant movement of the units |
| 20:48.53 | flyingspatula | and for each player |
| 20:49.01 | Xan | and they will overlap when players are near? |
| 20:49.04 | Xan | eachother |
| 20:49.07 | A1win | yea but only of the units that are at the borders of the camera |
| 20:49.09 | A1win | not all of them |
| 20:49.33 | A1win | and only when the player moves from square to square |
| 20:50.08 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 20:50.08 | A1win | player x changed -> pick each unit at far x side and move them to front x side (or vice versa), and same for y |
| 20:50.41 | A1win | just need to be sure to check if x and y have changed so fast that the player can't skip squares |
| 20:50.50 | A1win | but that's not a heavy operation |
| 20:51.01 | XorioZ | well i'll be going to bed now. |
| 20:51.03 | A1win | just comparing a couple of integers |
| 20:51.06 | XorioZ | nn averyone |
| 20:52.00 | A1win | mmh would require updating the unit references somehow though |
| 20:52.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster nodgene (568d215e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.141.33.94) |
| 20:52.27 | Mexatee | Sup folks |
| 20:52.28 | A1win | or actually not |
| 20:52.30 | flyingspatula | i may have to result to something similar |
| 20:52.48 | flyingspatula | hey uh soul what happened? |
| 20:52.52 | A1win | since you could just recreate the references with "pick each unit in region (rectangular region at the front/far x/y) |
| 20:53.10 | A1win | now I want to do a demo of that system =P |
| 20:53.16 | flyingspatula | haha |
| 20:53.25 | A1win | it sounds so elegant compared to spawning the map full of units to do the same thing |
| 20:53.30 | flyingspatula | indeed |
| 20:53.56 | flyingspatula | i jus dont paticularly enjoy the idea of constantly moving a large amount of units around for each player dunno why |
| 20:54.04 | A1win | large? |
| 20:54.05 | flyingspatula | stupid camera input event |
| 20:54.09 | SoulTaker916__ | lol |
| 20:54.09 | flyingspatula | bieng laggy :( |
| 20:54.14 | SoulTaker916__ | its givign me issues |
| 20:54.16 | A1win | it'd be like 16-32 depending on how high your camera is |
| 20:54.18 | flyingspatula | yeah if you consider the amount of players its still atleast like 100 or so |
| 20:54.18 | SoulTaker916__ | its nto laggy tho |
| 20:54.24 | SoulTaker916__ | but its not doing good inputs.. |
| 20:54.25 | flyingspatula | true |
| 20:54.31 | flyingspatula | what u mean |
| 20:54.33 | A1win | and you wouldn't be doing it constantly |
| 20:54.46 | A1win | only when a player has moved on x/y by 1 square |
| 20:55.02 | A1win | or hmm |
| 20:55.15 | A1win | units don't need to be exactly at the squares, so that could be just a periodic thing |
| 20:55.53 | A1win | and I don't think moving a few hundred units is that big a deal, it's just updating their position which is 2 coordinates |
| 20:56.12 | A1win | spawning a unit is much heavier operation since it requires reserving memory and setting variables etc |
| 20:57.06 | A1win | do the units really even need to be sized 1x1? |
| 20:57.20 | A1win | could just use slightly larger units to reduce the load |
| 20:57.20 | flyingspatula | well |
| 20:57.30 | flyingspatula | yeah that would probably work i guess |
| 20:58.02 | A1win | x\ it's midnight soon, I woke up like half an hour ago |
| 20:58.24 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 20:59.58 | SoulTaker916__ | yhats weord |
| 20:59.59 | SoulTaker916__ | weird |
| 21:00.03 | SoulTaker916__ | lolz... |
| 21:00.29 | Triceron | Midnight? |
| 21:00.57 | A1win | yea ;p as in 00:00 |
| 21:01.05 | Triceron | wel I mean you woke up at |
| 21:01.24 | A1win | =P oh, I thought you wanted to know what midnight is :( |
| 21:02.00 | A1win | I didn't sleep last night and got too tired around 7pm |
| 21:02.09 | Triceron | O_o |
| 21:02.17 | Triceron | long nap I guess then |
| 21:03.57 | A1win | saw some weird dreams of playing SC2 in a nonstandard team melee map |
| 21:04.17 | A1win | my broodlords didn't have infinite ammo, only regenerating with max of 150 =/ |
| 21:04.21 | SoulTaker916__ | thats weird |
| 21:04.26 | SoulTaker916__ | its returning 0 |
| 21:04.28 | SoulTaker916__ | for movement |
| 21:05.15 | flyingspatula | so soul map didnt end up working then? |
| 21:05.27 | SoulTaker916__ | it works |
| 21:05.28 | SoulTaker916__ | no lag |
| 21:05.34 | SoulTaker916__ | but im gettign 0 for the mouse input |
| 21:05.54 | A1win | what's the event and how do you reference the mouse? |
| 21:06.24 | SoulTaker916__ | i also cant find mouse move world |
| 21:06.33 | SoulTaker916__ | i found mouse possition in ui |
| 21:06.48 | A1win | you can only get the coordinates as reals |
| 21:07.05 | A1win | not as points |
| 21:07.46 | A1win | Mouse World Pos X or something |
| 21:07.55 | A1win | (and y and z) |
| 21:08.04 | A1win | shower time |
| 21:08.08 | Hobrow|Dhugal | libNtve_gf_SetDialogItemFlash(gv_heroSelectionOverviewBackgroundImage[(EventPlayer() - 1)], "UI\\Flash\\Common\\gfxfontlib.swf", PlayerGroupAll()); |
| 21:08.14 | Hobrow|Dhugal | 00:00:04.13 Trigger Error in 'gt_Ready_Func': Calling 'DialogControlSetPropertyAsString' is not authorized |
| 21:08.19 | Hobrow|Dhugal | why it not work? :O |
| 21:09.35 | flyingspatula | your getting 0 for world mouse input? |
| 21:09.54 | flyingspatula | u can only get xy of world mouse pos from clicks |
| 21:10.31 | SoulTaker916__ | omg |
| 21:10.33 | SoulTaker916__ | im a idiot |
| 21:10.41 | SoulTaker916__ | i forgot its loadding inactive player's locations |
| 21:11.06 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 21:11.13 | SoulTaker916__ | omg.. |
| 21:11.16 | SoulTaker916__ | there need a filter |
| 21:11.44 | SoulTaker916__ | ok its working |
| 21:11.48 | SoulTaker916__ | ima send u my add code |
| 21:11.54 | SoulTaker916__ | u play north america right? |
| 21:11.57 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 21:12.11 | flyingspatula | i mean i know how to make the camera crap |
| 21:12.25 | flyingspatula | its just its hard to test ho wlaggy it iwll get |
| 21:12.26 | flyingspatula | with more ppl |
| 21:12.51 | SoulTaker916__ | ya |
| 21:12.57 | SoulTaker916__ | well we can bring in 15 players |
| 21:13.02 | SoulTaker916__ | my scripts supports 15 users |
| 21:13.08 | SoulTaker916__ | so if u got friends bring them |
| 21:13.32 | flyingspatula | haha i have no sc2 friends :'( |
| 21:13.32 | SoulTaker916__ | my add code is 382 |
| 21:13.33 | SoulTaker916__ | add me |
| 21:13.36 | SoulTaker916__ | SoulTaker |
| 21:13.39 | Triceron | sc2 supports 15 playyers? |
| 21:13.40 | flyingspatula | ok cool |
| 21:13.52 | SoulTaker916__ | 16 |
| 21:13.54 | SoulTaker916__ | players |
| 21:13.59 | Triceron | really |
| 21:14.01 | SoulTaker916__ | but i didnt do 16 |
| 21:14.02 | SoulTaker916__ | ya |
| 21:14.09 | SoulTaker916__ | sc1 |
| 21:14.11 | Triceron | hmm, didn't know |
| 21:14.16 | SoulTaker916__ | support 8 players and 8 computers |
| 21:14.29 | Triceron | i knew war3 supported 12 |
| 21:14.37 | vail | thought only 14 were playable |
| 21:14.58 | SoulTaker916__ | add me |
| 21:15.10 | SoulTaker916__ | really? |
| 21:15.13 | SoulTaker916__ | cause ive seen 16 maps |
| 21:15.17 | SoulTaker916__ | they r weird tho |
| 21:15.24 | SoulTaker916__ | cause one player takes over for nutral |
| 21:15.30 | SoulTaker916__ | and one takes over for hostile |
| 21:16.21 | SoulTaker916__ | 07flyingspatula01 |
| 21:16.25 | SoulTaker916__ | chop chop |
| 21:16.27 | SoulTaker916__ | im waiting |
| 21:16.45 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 21:16.49 | SoulTaker916__ | add me |
| 21:17.18 | flyingspatula | done |
| 21:17.38 | Griffenator | Could EA get any shitter? |
| 21:17.39 | Griffenator | Discuss |
| 21:17.52 | Hobrow|Dhugal | who can tell me how to correctly setup a "Dialog Item Invoke As String" function? |
| 21:18.28 | slightlyrandom | Of course they could |
| 21:18.35 | slightlyrandom | But they are trying their damned best |
| 21:18.47 | slightlyrandom | (to be as shit as possible) |
| 21:20.34 | vail | i had an idea based off off what i could recall of Ashamed's idea from the other day.. |
| 21:20.34 | Triceron | they can get shittier |
| 21:20.42 | Triceron | they could be Activision. |
| 21:21.15 | vail | i was thinking maybe afour map set one map was a single player set up map basically blank with dialogs for setting options. |
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| 21:21.42 | vail | the other three maps could be loaded and run off these options |
| 21:22.47 | Rnuomer | hi |
| 21:22.56 | nodgene | You mean... Activision-Blizzard? |
| 21:23.10 | vail | hello i cant help any one today because my desktop died this morning |
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| 21:23.22 | nodgene | Pretty shit that |
| 21:23.44 | nodgene | Do you think it was an act of moral solidarity with the sc2mapster hardware? |
| 21:24.17 | vail | i found out there was a power dip/serge this morning while my pc was shut down ... i am hoping that only my powersupply was effected |
| 21:24.31 | nodgene | that would be an expensive problem |
| 21:24.44 | nodgene | no surge adaptor then? |
| 21:25.01 | vail | i have a basic one between the pc and the wall |
| 21:25.09 | vail | but i dont know if it helped |
| 21:25.27 | nodgene | hmhm |
| 21:25.44 | Nash|327 | bag-a-tun |
| 21:26.09 | Griffenator | Great, I think I got the chinese tech support... |
| 21:26.37 | vail | so monday i will be getting my Desktop checked out |
| 21:28.08 | SoulTaker916__ | 07flyingspatula01 game now |
| 21:29.07 | SoulTaker916__ | sorry about spam |
| 21:29.08 | SoulTaker916__ | 01flyingspatula |
| 21:29.26 | Mexa | derp |
| 21:30.31 | Mexa | Hey Hobrow, I think 'invoke as string' is for Blizzard only maps |
| 21:30.47 | Mexa | And even so, do you have an idea what they do? (I haven't) |
| 21:35.10 | vail | i think its cheap chinese powersupply |
| 21:35.31 | vail | eh.. |
| 21:35.40 | vail | 24% downloaded so far.. |
| 21:37.06 | Xan | new power supplies should protect against surges as well |
| 21:37.54 | vail | and my computer is about three years old |
| 21:38.26 | Xan | get a corsair power supply if you can |
| 21:38.30 | vail | i will |
| 21:38.42 | Xan | very high quality |
| 21:38.48 | vail | they have them at the local bestbuy ive been checking |
| 21:38.57 | Xan | my psu have a 7 year warrenty |
| 21:41.27 | vail | unfortunetly they only have 600 and 700 w ones |
| 21:41.33 | vail | for gaming pcs |
| 21:41.49 | Xan | are they too pricey? |
| 21:42.10 | Xan | otherwise its not bad if you get high wattage |
| 21:42.14 | Xan | they last longer |
| 21:42.23 | vail | 100 and 115 it appears |
| 21:42.30 | Xan | wtf? |
| 21:42.40 | Xan | I have a 800 one that cost about 70$ |
| 21:42.57 | Xan | that place is pretty expensive |
| 21:43.09 | vail | yes but its the price of convience |
| 21:43.35 | Xan | depends on where you live I guess |
| 21:43.43 | vail | yeah |
| 21:45.40 | vail | looks like other stores only have them for higher |
| 21:50.00 | vail | nope i wont be able to use a corsair.. |
| 21:50.10 | vail | atleast not the ones i can pick up ... |
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| 22:03.40 | SoulTaker916__ | flyingspatula |
| 22:03.41 | SoulTaker916__ | flyingspatula |
| 22:03.43 | SoulTaker916__ | game |
| 22:03.50 | flyingspatula | k |
| 22:09.26 | vail | looks like it would be cheaper just to buy a better of the shelf computer that have one built and shipped |
| 22:11.16 | Hobrow|Dhugal | im looking for a trigger god, is here one? |
| 22:12.51 | SoulTaker916__ | flyingspatula u want the map? |
| 22:12.53 | SoulTaker916__ | its urs |
| 22:15.18 | SoulTaker916__ | 01flyingspatula01 |
| 22:15.57 | flyingspatula | was afk |
| 22:16.00 | flyingspatula | well |
| 22:16.07 | SoulTaker916__ | its fully adjustable |
| 22:16.12 | flyingspatula | it seems u can jus let it run at 16/sec anyway tho |
| 22:16.15 | flyingspatula | but i can check it out sure |
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| 22:16.27 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 22:16.34 | SoulTaker916__ | 1 sec ill upload it |
| 22:16.35 | flyingspatula | u have so many testers ppl |
| 22:16.38 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 22:16.39 | flyingspatula | wish i did |
| 22:16.52 | SoulTaker916__ | when u make a popular game like i did |
| 22:16.57 | SoulTaker916__ | everyone lines up to test ur maps |
| 22:16.58 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 22:16.58 | flyingspatula | what di du make then |
| 22:16.59 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 22:17.06 | SoulTaker916__ | Protect Bob |
| 22:17.21 | flyingspatula | whats that about |
| 22:17.33 | SoulTaker916__ | its a weird defense game |
| 22:17.42 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 22:17.43 | SoulTaker916__ | some people r heavily addited to it |
| 22:17.48 | flyingspatula | haha nice |
| 22:18.09 | flyingspatula | i get alot of comments/emails about my wc3 maps but havent made anything for sc2 |
| 22:18.33 | SoulTaker916__ | http://www.mediafire.com/?byob5805435qho3 |
| 22:18.35 | SoulTaker916__ | :P |
| 22:18.39 | SoulTaker916__ | there u go |
| 22:18.44 | flyingspatula | cool ill check i tout :D |
| 22:18.48 | SoulTaker916__ | just do @adjust ^/v |
| 22:18.58 | SoulTaker916__ | to increase lentecy |
| 22:19.24 | SoulTaker916__ | its defaulted to 1 |
| 22:19.26 | flyingspatula | hmm |
| 22:19.37 | Triceron | what did you make for war3 flyingspatula |
| 22:19.59 | flyingspatula | a first perosn shooter |
| 22:20.05 | Triceron | which one |
| 22:20.09 | flyingspatula | crappy one |
| 22:20.16 | flyingspatula | didnt know there was more than 1? |
| 22:20.19 | flyingspatula | or a few |
| 22:20.26 | Triceron | the only fps I've seen looks like a ww2 one |
| 22:20.34 | Triceron | for war3 |
| 22:20.38 | flyingspatula | checking map out now soul |
| 22:20.45 | flyingspatula | ww2 one prolly wasmine |
| 22:20.59 | flyingspatula | there was a neat vehicle game too for wc3 was fun |
| 22:21.03 | flyingspatula | forgot who made it |
| 22:21.29 | Triceron | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeFqPofHlIc this yours? |
| 22:22.06 | flyingspatula | hmm soul so were u running the refresh at any time with nothing modified. as in it was running the default per second from the event |
| 22:22.09 | flyingspatula | yeah thats mine triceron |
| 22:22.27 | flyingspatula | lol 300000 views on one of them |
| 22:23.44 | flyingspatula | it never was really playable triceron |
| 22:23.49 | flyingspatula | was just a bitch to play lol |
| 22:23.52 | Triceron | oh? |
| 22:23.54 | flyingspatula | but something different |
| 22:24.03 | flyingspatula | i mean its by all means online playable just hard as fuck |
| 22:24.18 | Triceron | how do you mean, the controls? |
| 22:24.24 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 22:25.29 | SoulTaker916__ | http://www.mediafire.com/?byob5805435qho3 |
| 22:25.33 | SoulTaker916__ | ops |
| 22:25.35 | SoulTaker916__ | my bad |
| 22:25.47 | flyingspatula | hm? |
| 22:26.00 | SoulTaker916__ | u were saying? |
| 22:26.13 | flyingspatula | oh |
| 22:26.29 | flyingspatula | whe nu got to 0 |
| 22:26.33 | flyingspatula | like it wasnt even alggy at all |
| 22:26.34 | flyingspatula | laggy* |
| 22:26.37 | SoulTaker916__ | ya |
| 22:26.39 | SoulTaker916__ | notic |
| 22:26.44 | SoulTaker916__ | cause its still cutting the data |
| 22:26.47 | flyingspatula | was that still altered |
| 22:26.48 | flyingspatula | ah ok |
| 22:26.50 | flyingspatula | by how much |
| 22:26.53 | SoulTaker916__ | cause triggers have minor lag |
| 22:26.57 | SoulTaker916__ | i duno |
| 22:27.08 | SoulTaker916__ | probably by like .02 seconds |
| 22:27.10 | flyingspatula | really thinking the input isnt al that bad |
| 22:27.18 | SoulTaker916__ | even done dialogs? |
| 22:27.20 | flyingspatula | if its just like a player vs player kinda map |
| 22:27.23 | SoulTaker916__ | u can spam sclick them |
| 22:27.25 | SoulTaker916__ | click* |
| 22:27.27 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 22:27.29 | SoulTaker916__ | and get extra stuff |
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| 22:28.15 | SoulTaker916__ | im sure if u did it raw |
| 22:28.17 | SoulTaker916__ | it would be bad |
| 22:28.23 | SoulTaker916__ | but at anything less that .5 |
| 22:28.27 | SoulTaker916__ | its very smooth |
| 22:28.38 | SoulTaker916__ | and .1-.0 is flawless |
| 22:28.54 | flyingspatula | hm |
| 22:28.59 | bone123 | the is an artificial ping of 250 ms |
| 22:29.10 | SoulTaker916__ | for triggers? |
| 22:29.10 | A1win | isn't it 125 ms |
| 22:29.19 | SoulTaker916__ | for triggers? |
| 22:29.23 | A1win | for everything on bnet |
| 22:29.26 | flyingspatula | well 16executes per second still isnt alot imo |
| 22:29.37 | A1win | even movement controls |
| 22:29.42 | SoulTaker916__ | i duno i felt more reaciton |
| 22:29.46 | SoulTaker916__ | from .0 than .1 |
| 22:29.53 | SoulTaker916__ | maybe im crazy |
| 22:29.54 | A1win | did you try it on bnet |
| 22:29.58 | flyingspatula | lol |
| 22:30.01 | SoulTaker916__ | yes |
| 22:30.03 | SoulTaker916__ | we did |
| 22:30.05 | A1win | ah |
| 22:30.06 | flyingspatula | we tried mouse input online with like 6-7 ppl yeah |
| 22:30.07 | SoulTaker916__ | 6 players |
| 22:30.12 | bone123 | 125 = 0.125 |
| 22:30.12 | flyingspatula | wasnt bad at all |
| 22:30.19 | A1win | well, ping is not a cycle of server frames |
| 22:30.20 | A1win | it's latency |
| 22:30.23 | SoulTaker916__ | i know what 125 mil is XD |
| 22:30.33 | A1win | it just adds to it |
| 22:30.40 | A1win | so faster triggers still feel faster |
| 22:30.42 | SoulTaker916__ | maybe that what it is |
| 22:32.14 | A1win | the event manager runs every 62.5 ms (1/16) and a server frame is half of that (1/32) |
| 22:32.41 | SoulTaker916__ | well |
| 22:32.43 | flyingspatula | yeah |
| 22:32.45 | SoulTaker916__ | we fixed the lag |
| 22:32.49 | SoulTaker916__ | with the mouse move event |
| 22:32.52 | SoulTaker916__ | well i did |
| 22:32.54 | SoulTaker916__ | so im ahppy |
| 22:32.55 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 22:32.57 | flyingspatula | lol yeah |
| 22:33.01 | flyingspatula | im wondering tho if it even lags at all |
| 22:33.14 | SoulTaker916__ | well its better than 1 million units |
| 22:33.14 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
| 22:33.18 | flyingspatula | rofl for sure |
| 22:33.37 | SoulTaker916__ | also |
| 22:33.42 | SoulTaker916__ | it supports players 1-15 |
| 22:33.51 | SoulTaker916__ | i assume u see how the array works |
| 22:33.53 | SoulTaker916__ | right? |
| 22:34.08 | A1win | why 1-15 D: |
| 22:34.12 | flyingspatula | lol i kno wmy programming XD |
| 22:35.28 | SoulTaker916__ | because |
| 22:35.33 | SoulTaker916__ | i said |
| 22:35.36 | SoulTaker916__ | so |
| 22:35.39 | SoulTaker916__ | THATS WHY! |
| 22:35.45 | HeyRevolver | I am trying to give a siege tank thor's 330 barrage cannon and everything works fine until I actually click the ground to fire, then the icon just turns white and no barrage happens, anyone good with data have any idea wtf? |
| 22:35.45 | SoulTaker916__ | walks away |
| 22:36.13 | SoulTaker916__ | did u duplicate the ability? |
| 22:36.27 | HeyRevolver | I just added it |
| 22:36.40 | SoulTaker916__ | didnt change the ability at all? |
| 22:36.47 | HeyRevolver | nope |
| 22:36.53 | SoulTaker916__ | then i have no idea |
| 22:36.55 | SoulTaker916__ | XD |
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| 23:26.47 | Nash|327 | are you sure no barrage happens? :G |
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| 23:37.04 | vail | kirck |
| 23:49.17 | Nash|327 | YOU ARE A BOON |
| 23:49.29 | SoulTaker916__ | fl iu |
| 23:49.32 | SoulTaker916__ | fk u |
| 23:49.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster Griffenator (~IceChat7@78.146.11.161) |
| 23:49.53 | Nash|327 | /ignore SoulTaker916__ |
| 23:56.11 | Nash|327 | Give me kittuns! |
