| 00:00.21 | JademusSreg | Object type ids are strings. |
| 00:00.31 | Stewox | yeah |
| 00:00.40 | Stewox | what's baneling string then ? |
| 00:00.42 | JademusSreg | In the data editor, where it says Id, that is its id. |
| 00:00.50 | JademusSreg | Baneling is the baneling id. |
| 00:01.02 | Stewox | it's the same in galaxy ? |
| 00:01.20 | UloseTheGame | Nash, circle of life brah, umad? |
| 00:01.36 | Nash|327 | appeal to nature |
| 00:01.45 | Nash|327 | That shit does not fly. |
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| 00:02.05 | Stewox | idk what is bluh bluh |
| 00:02.52 | JademusSreg | A placeholder for the arguments I didn't feel like writing out. |
| 00:03.20 | UloseTheGame | umad |
| 00:03.22 | UloseTheGame | verymad |
| 00:04.26 | Nash|327 | You're not capable of making me mad. |
| 00:04.37 | Nash|327 | You're a lousy troll :G |
| 00:04.40 | Stewox | jademus |
| 00:04.46 | Nash|327 | U LOSE THE GAME LOLOLOLOL |
| 00:04.52 | Stewox | i can't implement this with the baneling loop ? |
| 00:05.01 | Stewox | the code that i already posted |
| 00:05.01 | UloseTheGame | I am above the Game |
| 00:05.14 | Stewox | it's only possible through this while ? |
| 00:05.18 | Nash|327 | Go back to 4chan or something. |
| 00:05.43 | UloseTheGame | I'm your local Game god |
| 00:05.47 | UloseTheGame | the god of the Game |
| 00:05.57 | Nash|327 | I'm an atheist. |
| 00:06.55 | JademusSreg | Stew, it's how I would do it. |
| 00:11.10 | Nash|327 | Class M planet detected on long range scanners! Take us into orbit and commence scanning for kittuns! |
| 00:22.40 | Nash|327 | KITTUNS |
| 00:24.57 | Mexa | "Socke has none stalkers" |
| 00:25.00 | Mexa | No he has 10 |
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| 00:30.46 | Nash|327 | Who is Socke and why are people stalking him? |
| 00:32.11 | Mexa | good, the nasl matches haven't started yet |
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| 00:42.29 | Nash|327 | I hope they never start. |
| 00:42.40 | Nash|327 | Melee must die! |
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| 00:49.58 | Mexa | oohnoes |
| 00:50.17 | Mexa | Damn |
| 00:50.20 | Mexa | InCa lost |
| 00:50.29 | JademusSreg | Damn. |
| 00:50.34 | JademusSreg | Ah well. |
| 00:50.35 | Stewox | http://whatinthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/ .... :P |
| 00:50.39 | Stewox | now im going to bed |
| 00:50.41 | Stewox | night |
| 00:50.42 | Mexa | Is time :D http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/NASL.tv |
| 00:50.45 | Mexa | Bye Stewox |
| 00:53.22 | Nash|327 | MEXAFACE |
| 00:53.30 | Nash|327 | WORK ON DIALOG THINGY |
| 00:53.38 | Nash|327 | NO STREAMS D: |
| 00:53.43 | Mexa | .-. |
| 00:53.49 | Mexa | I have two screens |
| 00:54.01 | Nash|327 | NO DISTRACTIONS |
| 00:54.04 | Mexa | But I was about to go up from bed now, so brb |
| 00:54.49 | Nash|327 | http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/funny-pictures-why-yes-i-do-enjoy-being-me.jpg |
| 00:54.57 | Nash|327 | SMUG KITTUN IS SMUG |
| 00:56.51 | JademusSreg | Wanna see Sheth go far. Cool ass zerg playin Jonah Hill lookin mothafucka. |
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| 00:58.15 | Nash|327 | MEXACTITUDE |
| 01:01.35 | Mexa_ | test |
| 01:01.51 | Mexa | Jademus, nasl is on btw |
| 01:04.11 | Mexa | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/NASL.tv up and away! |
| 01:04.18 | Mexa | Nash, what are you doing? |
| 01:04.26 | Nash|327 | dicking around |
| 01:04.31 | Nash|327 | Watching DS9. |
| 01:04.33 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 01:04.44 | Mexa | DS9? |
| 01:04.47 | Mexa | District 9? |
| 01:04.52 | Nash|327 | DEEP SPACE 9 |
| 01:04.54 | Nash|327 | noob |
| 01:05.02 | Mexa | .----. |
| 01:05.07 | Nash|327 | SET PHASERS TO STUN |
| 01:05.30 | Nash|327 | shoots Mexa |
| 01:05.49 | Mexa | hands over a puppeteer to Nash |
| 01:07.21 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 01:07.29 | Nash|327 | DERP SPACE 9 |
| 01:08.23 | Nash|327 | http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Deep_Space_Nine |
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| 01:10.28 | Mexa | hmm... Something that really grinds my gears is when games are released with different titles in different regions |
| 01:10.32 | Mexa | why srs <.< |
| 01:10.55 | Nash|327 | D_D_D_D_D_D_D_D_D |
| 01:14.51 | JademusSreg | Rock Man! With Roll and Rush. |
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| 01:19.04 | Nash|327 | Surrender your kittuns! |
| 01:20.05 | Nash|327 | I'm fucking off |
| 01:23.31 | JademusSreg | Beautiful first match. |
| 01:23.36 | Mexa | yeah |
| 01:23.39 | Mexa | :D |
| 01:24.05 | Mexa | lolwtf |
| 01:25.10 | Mexa | Oh bleh... dialogs do not return their image if you haven't set one manually :v |
| 01:25.46 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 01:25.51 | JademusSreg | Also, unrelated: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/GalaxyStandardLibrary.jpg |
| 01:26.49 | Mexa | let me guess, orange is the "backward include" and green is the proper? |
| 01:27.15 | Mexa | You forgot alot of files tho :> |
| 01:27.19 | JademusSreg | Orange is include at top, green is include at bottom. |
| 01:27.25 | JademusSreg | Nope, I didn't forget any. |
| 01:27.36 | JademusSreg | Those are the files linked to natives.galaxy. |
| 01:28.25 | Mexa | oh I see |
| 01:28.29 | JademusSreg | Which mapscript.galaxy includes via NativesLib.galaxy. |
| 01:28.55 | JademusSreg | NativesLib.galaxy has all the GUI functions, so it includes natives.galaxy at the top. |
| 01:29.23 | Mexa | yes I get what you mean now |
| 01:30.56 | JademusSreg | I wish melee AIs weren't started via hardcode. |
| 01:31.06 | JademusSreg | So sad. |
| 01:31.25 | Mexa | I think you can override them |
| 01:31.41 | Mexa | I overriden natives.galaxy ingame before |
| 01:31.46 | Mexa | It gave a script error |
| 01:31.51 | Mexa | But nothing was loaded afaIk |
| 01:32.10 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 01:32.25 | Mexa | As I replaced it with an empty file:p |
| 01:33.40 | Mexa | Just look at what they say about it anyway |
| 01:33.56 | Mexa | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.56 | Mexa | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:34.48 | JademusSreg | Makes sense. |
| 01:35.01 | Mexa | All the AI files in the Core says that |
| 01:35.18 | Mexa | But I figure you knwo that |
| 01:35.22 | Mexa | *know |
| 01:36.00 | JademusSreg | For galaxy, I extracted all the files from all the mpqs, and overwrite old files with patch files. |
| 01:37.07 | Mexa | oh okay |
| 01:37.32 | Mexa | Might be a good idea to split them up in a way so that you know in what mod they belong to then |
| 01:37.44 | Mexa | Or well, I think it would be :> |
| 01:38.59 | Mexa | wait... I don't remember this match |
| 01:39.04 | Mexa | *map |
| 01:39.17 | Mexa | Is it new? The one on nasl playing I mean |
| 01:53.05 | Mexa | lol... Dawn already, and it's soon to be 4AM only |
| 01:57.08 | Sixen | Jade, pretty sweet image, : |
| 01:57.43 | Sixen | =] |
| 02:02.10 | Mexa | Forgot to say that as well :>, lol |
| 02:02.40 | Mexa | inputs coffee. |
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| 02:06.52 | Ashamed | good night yall |
| 02:07.00 | Ashamed | might get on later... if i want to map make |
| 02:07.01 | Ashamed | dunno |
| 02:07.29 | Ashamed | well fine no one say bye :( |
| 02:07.32 | Ashamed | i see how it be |
| 02:08.44 | Mexa | Did I just hear skype noises through the nasl stream? |
| 02:09.14 | Mexa | I did... |
| 02:09.16 | Mexa | lols |
| 02:09.35 | Mexa | Bye Ashamed |
| 02:13.33 | JademusSreg | Thanks Sixen. |
| 02:14.00 | JademusSreg | Just something I made along the way of my study of SC2 AI. |
| 02:19.26 | JademusSreg | Sheth looks like he's got this match. |
| 02:23.47 | Mexa | gooo Vibe! |
| 02:23.50 | Mexa | Bye Ashamed.p |
| 02:23.56 | Mexa | nou arrow key |
| 02:28.39 | Xaragoth | Sixen |
| 02:28.55 | Xaragoth | I still have that stupid counter that keeps me from posting fast0r |
| 02:29.15 | Xaragoth | I command it to be destroyed |
| 02:29.16 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 02:29.22 | Mexa | damn, Sheth is winning this |
| 02:32.32 | JademusSreg | Jonah Hill beat Vibe. |
| 02:42.10 | JademusSreg | Grubby vs Morrow. |
| 02:45.28 | Mexa | could it be he will lose this too and go 0-8 :v? |
| 02:45.52 | JademusSreg | Grubby fucked that up. |
| 02:46.19 | Mexa | I thought he managed fairly well |
| 02:46.19 | JademusSreg | Could have kept it tighter with an additional sentry. |
| 02:46.26 | Mexa | true though |
| 02:48.29 | JademusSreg | Wow. |
| 02:48.36 | Mexa | That was a pretty awesome move |
| 02:48.50 | Mexa | Unexpected |
| 02:49.07 | JademusSreg | Very cool. |
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| 02:59.31 | JademusSreg | Is the stream choppy or is that my connection? |
| 03:00.08 | Mexa | it was croppy a while ago |
| 03:00.19 | Mexa | You better not miss this moment :c |
| 03:03.43 | Mexa | neat, I haven't seen ultras in a such long time |
| 03:09.07 | Mexa | and a nydus network, weeii |
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| 03:09.23 | Mexa | hi there |
| 03:09.33 | JademusSreg | Oh sheeet. |
| 03:11.17 | Mexa | Yeah Grubby is toasted now :> |
| 03:12.16 | Mexa | Still wanted some epic clash in his base tho:p |
| 03:24.03 | Mexa | hmm.. Can I write <n/> in a string and get it formatted in the text when converted? |
| 03:24.11 | Mexa | As newline? |
| 03:24.13 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 03:24.17 | Mexa | Sweet |
| 03:24.24 | JademusSreg | I've done it before. |
| 03:24.30 | Mexa | :) ok |
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| 03:28.22 | JademusSreg | Awww. Would have been incredible if Grubby won the match. |
| 03:28.26 | Mexa | yeah |
| 03:28.33 | JademusSreg | But Morrow just played the better game. |
| 03:28.49 | Mexa | He is also a oneteam clan right now |
| 03:28.53 | Mexa | Team Grubby |
| 03:28.55 | Mexa | :> |
| 03:29.01 | JademusSreg | Yup. Haha |
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| 03:29.19 | Mexa | It wouldn't matter for him if he won tho |
| 03:29.28 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 03:29.29 | Mexa | It would have been critical for Morrow I think |
| 03:29.40 | Mexa | Hey Bounty |
| 03:29.48 | Mexa | Where the hell have you been ::v |
| 03:29.59 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 03:30.10 | Bounty | I've been around lol |
| 03:30.18 | Bounty | No real reason to be here since my hard drive was wiped |
| 03:30.20 | Bounty | >< |
| 03:30.26 | Mexa | Have you not managed to get your avatar map? |
| 03:30.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster UloseTheGame (44ad563b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.173.86.59) |
| 03:30.33 | Bounty | not yet |
| 03:30.34 | JademusSreg | Consider it a fresh start Bounty. |
| 03:30.37 | Bounty | still trying |
| 03:30.38 | UloseTheGame | show starting! |
| 03:30.43 | UloseTheGame | let's help the newbs! |
| 03:30.50 | Bounty | thats funny jademussreg |
| 03:30.51 | UloseTheGame | http://www.livestream.com/sc2streamster |
| 03:30.56 | Mexa | Nowai, I watch nasl :g |
| 03:31.01 | Bounty | i find myself sitting here watching my youtube vids of my maps and i was thinking the same thing |
| 03:31.02 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:31.02 | JademusSreg | Time to refocus and not start projects only to leave them unfinished. Be The Phoenix ==> |
| 03:31.17 | UloseTheGame | Yo Jad |
| 03:31.20 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 03:31.24 | UloseTheGame | you coming to newbie wednesdays? |
| 03:31.30 | Mexa | Don't lose the spirit Bounty :) |
| 03:31.33 | JademusSreg | I don't even know what that is. |
| 03:31.35 | UloseTheGame | never know what basic stuff you'll learn ;) |
| 03:31.41 | UloseTheGame | streamster show lol |
| 03:31.42 | UloseTheGame | http://www.livestream.com/sc2streamster |
| 03:31.49 | Mexa | And go and get motherfuckin' Dropbox! |
| 03:32.07 | Bounty | I think i need to focus on getting this job with Comcast before i start mapping again lol |
| 03:32.21 | JademusSreg | You mean it's a stream for people unfamiliar with the editor interested in learning new things? |
| 03:32.23 | Mexa | Wait, Comcast? |
| 03:32.27 | JademusSreg | Naw, no need. |
| 03:32.32 | Bounty | Yeah |
| 03:32.35 | Mexa | Enlighten me |
| 03:32.48 | Bounty | You dont know who/what Comcast is? |
| 03:32.53 | JademusSreg | I do. |
| 03:32.57 | Mexa | I might not |
| 03:33.01 | Bounty | Its like the largest TV/Internet company in the US lol |
| 03:33.10 | Mexa | Yeah, well I don't live in US |
| 03:33.12 | Mexa | go figure. |
| 03:33.28 | Mexa | Do you know the largest TV/Internet company in Sweden? |
| 03:33.44 | Mexa | :p |
| 03:33.45 | Bounty | I am American, why would i know anything about any other country? |
| 03:33.50 | Bounty | =P |
| 03:33.58 | Mexa | Oh you |
| 03:34.14 | Bounty | Well its true lol |
| 03:34.15 | Mexa | Jademus, did Nasl just die? |
| 03:34.19 | Mexa | I know |
| 03:34.24 | Bounty | I thought that was the global stereotype of americans? :) |
| 03:34.31 | JademusSreg | Yes, Mexa. |
| 03:34.37 | JademusSreg | It would appear to be the case. |
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| 03:35.21 | Mexa | Whilst US is also well known for publicially be important. |
| 03:35.26 | Mexa | Outside of US |
| 03:35.52 | Mexa | I mean, "important" |
| 03:36.09 | Mexa | justin.tv go and die. |
| 03:36.25 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 03:36.32 | Bounty | btw |
| 03:36.36 | Mexa | Stream died completely for me |
| 03:36.40 | JademusSreg | Same. |
| 03:36.44 | Bounty | did blizzard release any new news on marketplace? |
| 03:36.52 | Mexa | They did |
| 03:37.05 | Mexa | Did you not read about the HotS preview? |
| 03:37.10 | Bounty | no |
| 03:37.13 | Mexa | Then do it |
| 03:37.15 | Mexa | :D |
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| 03:37.26 | Bounty | did they say anything about what maps will qualify/ |
| 03:37.41 | Mexa | It is planned to work similar to the mobile app stores |
| 03:37.49 | Mexa | In other words, anyone can qualify |
| 03:37.53 | Bounty | oo |
| 03:37.57 | Bounty | i like that >< |
| 03:38.01 | Mexa | Well I suspect that |
| 03:38.10 | Bounty | i just wanna charge like 10 cents |
| 03:38.21 | Mexa | Fucking bird outside |
| 03:38.31 | Mexa | it really sounded like my watch |
| 03:38.32 | Mexa | D: |
| 03:38.53 | Mexa | Hmm Jade, looks like it was Nasl only right now |
| 03:39.13 | Bounty | I wonder if anyone will become rich off the marketplace lol |
| 03:39.36 | Mexa | It would probably not be your main source of income |
| 03:39.45 | Bounty | it could be |
| 03:39.55 | Bounty | if you sell enough |
| 03:40.04 | Mexa | Also who knows, they might implement it in a such way that you gain points when people buy the maps |
| 03:40.12 | Bounty | points? |
| 03:40.15 | Mexa | And these points might only be used on b.net |
| 03:40.34 | Mexa | Or they make a hybrid |
| 03:40.36 | Bounty | what would the points be for |
| 03:40.41 | Mexa | Like on Xbox Live I guess |
| 03:40.45 | Mexa | To buy other maps |
| 03:40.46 | Mexa | lol |
| 03:40.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:41.10 | Mexa | But I guess the devs will get money, and yourself might buy points to buy maps |
| 03:41.16 | Mexa | Or they just do like the app store |
| 03:41.17 | Bounty | i wonder if any companies would allow you to use their music |
| 03:41.19 | JademusSreg | Naw, there will be free maps and service in the marketplace, and eventually paid content. |
| 03:41.20 | Bounty | if you emailed them |
| 03:41.33 | Mexa | Whose music? |
| 03:41.40 | Mexa | Lady Gaga? |
| 03:41.40 | Bounty | idk |
| 03:41.42 | Mexa | gl |
| 03:41.42 | Bounty | no |
| 03:41.46 | Bounty | video game music |
| 03:41.58 | Bounty | like |
| 03:41.58 | Mexa | rip music from another game to use in another game? |
| 03:41.59 | Bounty | uh |
| 03:42.01 | Bounty | yeah |
| 03:42.02 | Mexa | Like, no way |
| 03:42.05 | Bounty | and sell it |
| 03:42.05 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:42.25 | Mexa | It might not be as "critical" if you don't earn profit on what you took it for |
| 03:42.33 | Mexa | But making money without a license to use it? |
| 03:42.42 | Bounty | well thankfully blizzard has plenty of good music to use |
| 03:42.58 | Mexa | There's plenty of music on the web as well |
| 03:43.07 | Mexa | freelancers and other free to use music |
| 03:43.20 | Xaragoth | damn it >> |
| 03:43.32 | Xaragoth | forgot workers in left 2 die this time |
| 03:43.39 | Mexa | http://incompetech.com/m/c/royalty-free/ this guy makes pretty awesome music |
| 03:43.39 | Xaragoth | but I will get that last goddamn portrait |
| 03:44.00 | Mexa | We used a couple in our game school project a few months ago |
| 03:44.43 | Bounty | added it to my favorites |
| 03:44.46 | Bounty | for future use |
| 03:44.47 | Bounty | :) |
| 03:44.50 | Mexa | :) |
| 03:45.04 | Mexa | The only thing he would ask I think, it a credit |
| 03:45.08 | Mexa | And I see no issue with that |
| 03:45.11 | Bounty | same |
| 03:45.15 | Bounty | thats not an issue |
| 03:45.32 | Mexa | People forget to credit music sources way too often :> |
| 03:45.47 | JademusSreg | I disagree; those are terribad. |
| 03:46.01 | Mexa | Those? |
| 03:46.16 | Mexa | royality free music can be good you know. |
| 03:46.18 | JademusSreg | Incompetech,. |
| 03:46.32 | Xaragoth | löl |
| 03:46.34 | Xaragoth | nice name |
| 03:46.43 | Mexa | I don't think so, ofcourse you need to look a while to find what you want |
| 03:46.46 | Xaragoth | change 2 letters |
| 03:46.51 | Xaragoth | and havoc follows |
| 03:46.57 | Mexa | But he haves a few neat ones. |
| 03:47.20 | Bounty | So |
| 03:47.30 | Bounty | i waited for 5 months for Dawn of War 2 Collection to go on sale |
| 03:47.36 | Bounty | no luck |
| 03:47.42 | JademusSreg | C418 has some neat stuff. |
| 03:47.47 | Bounty | DLing it now off of torrent |
| 03:47.47 | Bounty | =P |
| 03:48.08 | Bounty | btw |
| 03:48.10 | Bounty | random fact |
| 03:48.22 | Bounty | Credit Cards are the shit when they come with 6 months no interest |
| 03:48.33 | Mexa | Oh, c418 made the Minecraft soundtrack? |
| 03:48.49 | JademusSreg | Yes Mexa. |
| 03:49.23 | Bounty | does he get any money? |
| 03:49.26 | JademusSreg | A number of the tracks on his blog are free to use. |
| 03:49.26 | Bounty | sicne he made the soundtrack |
| 03:49.31 | JademusSreg | But he also does commercial work. |
| 03:49.59 | Xaragoth | 1 |
| 03:50.00 | Mexa | donations are a source of income too I guess |
| 03:51.04 | Mexa | darn Nasl :| |
| 03:51.35 | Mexa | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/OneMoreGame to watch meanwwhile |
| 03:54.48 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 04:10.15 | JademusSreg | Oh maaan. |
| 04:10.38 | Mexa | .-. |
| 04:21.44 | JademusSreg | Hahahaha |
| 04:21.48 | JademusSreg | That was sweet. |
| 04:21.52 | Mexa | yeah |
| 04:22.32 | Mexa | Hey Jademus, btw, did you try if <t/> works as well? |
| 04:23.17 | Mexa | oh nvm, it doesn't work :( |
| 04:23.50 | JademusSreg | Never tried it, no. |
| 04:25.19 | Mexa | Yeah but nvm, it doesn't work in the text editor, so why would it work somewhere else. |
| 04:43.10 | JademusSreg | Sixjax wins the EGMC, eh? |
| 04:44.18 | JademusSreg | Oh, guess not. |
| 04:44.20 | JademusSreg | Phew. |
| 04:44.57 | Mexa | :p |
| 04:47.27 | Mexa | There |
| 04:47.33 | Mexa | I WANT NASL BACK |
| 04:47.34 | Mexa | D: |
| 04:48.10 | Mexa | OH ITS BACK :D |
| 04:48.24 | Mexa | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/NASL.tv |
| 04:48.37 | Mexa | It's even back where it stopped |
| 04:48.39 | Mexa | Awesome |
| 04:49.08 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 04:49.44 | Mexa | Wonder if Morrow is sitting in their new home with TLO and those other guys |
| 04:49.57 | JademusSreg | Maybe. |
| 04:49.57 | Mexa | *his |
| 04:50.14 | Mexa | It looks new |
| 04:50.24 | Mexa | Looking at that ladder:p |
| 04:50.32 | Mexa | And I think I saw one of them moving by |
| 04:50.43 | JademusSreg | From the look of the scene behind him, it is still being work on. |
| 04:50.49 | Mexa | yeah |
| 04:51.18 | Mexa | aw |
| 04:51.57 | Mexa | So, do you know who that guy was, Jademus? |
| 04:52.01 | JademusSreg | Guy on the right looked positively frightened. |
| 04:52.12 | Mexa | yeah, I know right:p |
| 04:52.16 | JademusSreg | Like a cat in a corner or a deer in the road. |
| 04:53.25 | Mexa | Fuu, I was making a DialogInfoToString function |
| 04:53.36 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 04:53.39 | Mexa | They I figured I must do it as text due to the label... |
| 04:54.03 | JademusSreg | Ah, yes, haha. |
| 04:54.14 | Mexa | It's just a debug thingy for printing out all data of the dialog |
| 04:54.23 | Mexa | But still, tideous, I was almost done with it -.- |
| 04:55.26 | JademusSreg | Stream down again? |
| 04:56.04 | JademusSreg | Phew. |
| 05:00.55 | Mexa | indeed :> |
| 05:08.30 | JademusSreg | Moon has really turned it around, nice. |
| 05:08.37 | Mexa | Yeah |
| 05:08.42 | Mexa | This is exciting |
| 05:11.11 | Mexa | D: |
| 05:11.17 | JademusSreg | Shiiit. |
| 05:12.27 | JademusSreg | Phew |
| 05:12.39 | Mexa | ahah, nice denial there |
| 05:12.46 | Mexa | doh |
| 05:13.11 | Mexa | NOOO STREAM |
| 05:13.12 | Mexa | DONT DIE |
| 05:13.13 | JademusSreg | My stream was interrupted! |
| 05:13.16 | JademusSreg | Fuck. |
| 05:13.18 | Mexa | :(((( |
| 05:13.25 | Mexa | arrgh |
| 05:14.21 | Mexa | :sadface: |
| 05:16.02 | Mexa | Tell me if yours get back up D: |
| 05:16.16 | Mexa | But it's probably nasl's fault, not justin this time |
| 05:18.25 | Mexa | or the local area internet :/ |
| 05:18.37 | JademusSreg | You saw the message as well, I see. |
| 05:18.44 | Dogmai | jade |
| 05:18.46 | Mexa | Yeah, internet outtage? |
| 05:18.48 | Dogmai | tell me what you think of this one |
| 05:18.50 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 05:18.50 | Dogmai | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/team-recruitment/22148-common-sense-101-team-recruitment-edition/ |
| 05:19.41 | Dogmai | I value your opinion. |
| 05:20.04 | Dogmai | Which is probably going to be the nicest thing I will ever admit to you about our freakish man on man relationship because someone got confused that you had a girls name. |
| 05:20.04 | JademusSreg | "then you're name wouldn't be on there because you didn't do anything" "you're" should be "your" |
| 05:20.05 | Dogmai | :) |
| 05:20.13 | Dogmai | ffs\ |
| 05:20.39 | Dogmai | There is always one |
| 05:20.59 | Dogmai | Funny, spellcheck didn't pick it up and I must have skimmed over it half a dozen times -_- |
| 05:22.42 | JademusSreg | 2 things. |
| 05:23.00 | Mexa | spellcheck didn't pick it up because both are valid words. |
| 05:23.31 | Dogmai | spellcheck checks grammer |
| 05:23.37 | Dogmai | yea jade |
| 05:23.40 | Mexa | Sometimes :v |
| 05:23.45 | JademusSreg | 1) It is spot on in every capacity. I would have been meaner in some parts, like the initial section where you explain how ideas are by themselves worth shit. |
| 05:23.49 | JademusSreg | *grammar |
| 05:24.02 | Dogmai | ffs, i nearly wrote grammar |
| 05:24.06 | Dogmai | i thought americans used grammer |
| 05:24.08 | Dogmai | we use grammar |
| 05:24.17 | Dogmai | god damnit i was trying to be nice |
| 05:24.24 | Dogmai | coloUr coloUr coloUr coloUr coloUr coloUr coloUr coloUr coloUr coloUr coloUr coloUr coloUr |
| 05:24.44 | JademusSreg | 2) I think you should include a section on the value of prototyping and demonstrations in attracting team members. It's the only thing really missing. |
| 05:24.45 | Mexa | derp lerp slerp derp lerp slerp |
| 05:25.03 | Dogmai | herpaderp became derpaslerp? |
| 05:25.09 | Dogmai | sounds like a glory hole gone wrong |
| 05:25.16 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 05:25.24 | Dogmai | Jade that is an awesome point I totally forgot about. |
| 05:25.24 | Mexa | slerp and lerp are programming terms |
| 05:25.28 | Dogmai | I'll add it in now |
| 05:25.37 | Mexa | the latter being linear interpolation |
| 05:25.44 | Mexa | Don't ask me how that became lerp tho.. |
| 05:26.15 | Mexa | and slerp is spherical linear interpolation |
| 05:26.33 | Mexa | I was just messing around dogmai, ignore me |
| 05:26.37 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 05:28.20 | Mexa | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/csn_andrew something to watch meanwhile Jademus. |
| 05:28.25 | Mexa | Korean matches even :) |
| 05:28.29 | JademusSreg | Thanks Mexa. |
| 05:28.38 | JademusSreg | "should post in the Map Request forum" This is a thing? |
| 05:28.47 | JademusSreg | I didn't even know it existed. |
| 05:29.55 | Dogmai | i was on the phone |
| 05:30.04 | Dogmai | i knew it existed but i didnt know what it was called |
| 05:30.09 | Dogmai | i actually had to go look for that forum |
| 05:30.13 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 05:30.19 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 05:30.39 | JademusSreg | I guess I'm surprised people are willing to make maps for other people on request. |
| 05:31.42 | Dogmai | well |
| 05:31.45 | Dogmai | look at icetrolls |
| 05:31.57 | Dogmai | kyx's version sucked balls compared to my never released version |
| 05:32.01 | Dogmai | but thats just it |
| 05:32.03 | Dogmai | it was never released |
| 05:32.24 | Dogmai | another guy is making icetrolls |
| 05:32.31 | Dogmai | and i said go for it, if you do a shitty job im gonna do it better |
| 05:32.39 | Dogmai | cause people had been requesting that type of map |
| 05:32.43 | Dogmai | for a long long time |
| 05:33.23 | Dogmai | But honestly, though, food for thought .... if all people want is copies of maps that existed in Wc3 .... the map pool will stay stagnent |
| 05:33.26 | JademusSreg | Clever use of SCVs for TaeJa. |
| 05:33.33 | JademusSreg | Didn't win, but clever. |
| 05:33.35 | Dogmai | People are stupid, they don't want to try anything new. |
| 05:33.44 | Mexa | Neat, July is going to MLG by that match |
| 05:34.15 | Dogmai | Its like SelfCreation saying he was gonna boycott Tofu cause it had too many heroes and items, Tofu is one of the easiest maps I have ever played, from a learning curve point of view |
| 05:34.16 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 05:34.29 | JademusSreg | Dogmai, I sincerely despise pretty much every map I have ever played, and the few maps I enjoyed should not be recreated just because I enjoyed them. |
| 05:35.00 | Dogmai | OOC, which maps did you enjoy? |
| 05:35.06 | Mexa | Are you talking about wc3 remaked maps in sc2? |
| 05:35.11 | JademusSreg | From which game? |
| 05:35.25 | Mexa | I didn't follow from the start |
| 05:35.49 | Mexa | Waitwhat, MLG is tomorrow :O? |
| 05:36.01 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
| 05:36.18 | Mexa | by tomorrow I mean, 24hours from now or so |
| 05:36.29 | Mexa | wait I mean, probably 38 or so |
| 05:36.39 | Mexa | june third |
| 05:36.42 | Mexa | Or was it july third? |
| 05:36.48 | JademusSreg | I think iNcontroL mentioned that on Inside The Game last night. |
| 05:36.56 | Mexa | Junne 3-5 |
| 05:37.00 | Mexa | *june |
| 05:37.24 | Mexa | Good thing, it doesn't clash with E3 |
| 05:38.02 | Mexa | Sadly they both are at the wrong time for me... damn you exam :< |
| 05:38.50 | Mexa | Now I want Nasl back... |
| 05:39.15 | JademusSreg | In wc3, I had a fun/disdain relationship with The Great Strategy. Customizable hero abilities was both cool and so vulnerable to exploitation, it hardly requires mention. |
| 05:39.37 | JademusSreg | I also enjoyed playing a really crappy map called Frog Hunt. |
| 05:40.10 | JademusSreg | The production value was shitty, but the gameplay was tense and fun. |
| 05:40.25 | Mexa | Frog Hunt? |
| 05:40.30 | JademusSreg | I haven't seen a cat n mouse style map recapture that yet. |
| 05:40.33 | Dogmai | jade, refresh the thread |
| 05:41.01 | Mexa | One map I found very fun was. hm brb |
| 05:41.27 | Mexa | Farmers vs Hunters |
| 05:41.45 | JademusSreg | Das goot. |
| 05:41.47 | Mexa | And I actually loved being a hunter, for the fact that they could set up a base as well |
| 05:42.14 | Mexa | Plain hide and seek was never fun for me :) |
| 05:42.43 | Mexa | Such as Sheep Tag |
| 05:42.54 | Mexa | I got bored being a wolf there |
| 05:43.01 | Mexa | Oh... but Kodo Tag was fun |
| 05:43.07 | JademusSreg | Dogmai, do you use galaxy or GUI? I forget which if you have mentioned it. |
| 05:43.09 | Mexa | And that was vs AI |
| 05:43.49 | JademusSreg | Mexa, I didn't like many wc3 maps, but I can tell you the worst map. |
| 05:44.00 | Mexa | oh? haha |
| 05:44.26 | Mexa | I'm all ears |
| 05:44.36 | JademusSreg | Perhaps not merely the worst map, but more appropriately it might be the worst thing ever created by anyone ever as a result of purposeful actions. |
| 05:44.51 | JademusSreg | Map Tong Hop. |
| 05:44.59 | Mexa | waitwhat`? |
| 05:45.03 | Mexa | I never heard of that :V |
| 05:45.18 | JademusSreg | I think it was a map popular in asia. |
| 05:45.47 | Mexa | Judging by the name, yeah, somewhat |
| 05:45.52 | JademusSreg | Anyway, every character in the game was stolent from Japanese games and anime. |
| 05:45.57 | JademusSreg | *stolen |
| 05:46.20 | Mexa | lol.. |
| 05:46.45 | Mexa | OMG |
| 05:46.58 | Mexa | And graphically overeyecandied much |
| 05:47.18 | JademusSreg | Poorly scripted, poorly modelled, rampant plagarism of intellectual property, literally no balance, a ridiculous number of levels which effectively rendered levels meaningless, and so forth. |
| 05:47.19 | Mexa | Wow seriously... |
| 05:47.36 | Mexa | Yeah I can see that |
| 05:47.37 | JademusSreg | Literally everything a map could do wrong, it does wrong. |
| 05:47.37 | Mexa | =_= |
| 05:47.51 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIH_BDZfVFs |
| 05:47.55 | Mexa | I hate it already |
| 05:48.02 | Mexa | Not even talking about gameplay wise |
| 05:48.16 | JademusSreg | Yep, that's the map. |
| 05:48.17 | Mexa | But those effects and spells are just plaing fucking stupid |
| 05:48.23 | Mexa | *plain |
| 05:49.03 | Mexa | Never saw it in europe. I am glad I never did :v |
| 05:49.20 | Mexa | epicwar probably have it by dozens |
| 05:49.51 | JademusSreg | It does. |
| 05:50.03 | JademusSreg | I've seen it on their site, by chance. |
| 05:50.05 | Mexa | http://www.epicwar.com/maps/search/?n=Map+Tong+Hop&go=1 :( |
| 05:50.23 | Mexa | Then again, epicwars is a nightmare in itself. |
| 05:50.30 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 05:50.43 | Mexa | Way to bbloated. |
| 05:50.46 | Mexa | *too bloated |
| 05:50.49 | Mexa | And so on |
| 05:50.51 | Mexa | Yeah. |
| 05:51.14 | JademusSreg | Anyway, if you'd like to experience the greatest negative example in the totality of human history, play that map. |
| 05:51.26 | Mexa | :3 |
| 05:51.51 | Mexa | I can only imagine it is written in gui as a worst example of DO NOT |
| 05:52.11 | Mexa | It wouldn't surprise me at all :| |
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| 05:54.00 | JademusSreg | I discovered it while playing with some people from CampaignCreations. Somehow, they couldn't appreciate the horror; they appeared to play it and enjoy it. My mind was so thoroughly boggled I didn't speak to any of them for 4 months. |
| 05:54.28 | Mexa | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/NASL.tv it's back :D |
| 05:54.35 | Mexa | or should be back |
| 05:54.53 | Mexa | Yay |
| 05:54.55 | Mexa | It's back :D |
| 05:55.15 | Mexa | okay, KiwiKaki lost his main and is being revealed it seems |
| 05:55.18 | Mexa | Or it said |
| 05:55.21 | Mexa | *base |
| 05:55.53 | Mexa | :D |
| 05:56.15 | JademusSreg | That they enjoyed the map was only slightly less worse than a close group of your friends confiding in you their fondness for pederasty. |
| 05:56.33 | Mexa | haha lol Jade. |
| 05:56.37 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 05:59.29 | Mexa | ...Pffft, and you would expect that DialogGetLabel would return a null-text if it's not valid. But no, it returns an empty text, so now it can't be validated =_= |
| 05:59.33 | JademusSreg | Dogmai, looking at the project recruitment forum makes me want to post in every topic to ask "And what contribution will you be making to this [topic starter]? Ideas and leadership are not valid responses." |
| 06:01.41 | obliviron | Hey, stewox, you there? |
| 06:02.41 | Dogmai | haha |
| 06:02.43 | Dogmai | i did it once |
| 06:02.46 | Dogmai | then i thought, fuck it |
| 06:02.48 | Dogmai | waste of time |
| 06:02.55 | Dogmai | noobs abound everywhere |
| 06:03.19 | Dogmai | I use GUI btw |
| 06:04.13 | Mexa | GUI in galaxy is fine, but it's still tideous. It's less error prone than the GUI used in wc3, and what I mentioned before. |
| 06:04.22 | Mexa | or *more fine* |
| 06:04.45 | JademusSreg | I just looked through my chat logs for the last time someone said it was an "idea" or "management" person. |
| 06:04.50 | JademusSreg | It was Triceron, haha,. |
| 06:05.39 | JademusSreg | Yeah, GUI has nearly all the features as galaxy, which is a huge step up from wc3's GUI. |
| 06:05.49 | Dogmai | thats it |
| 06:05.58 | Dogmai | the GUI in sc2 is basically the same as galaxy |
| 06:06.02 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 06:06.04 | Dogmai | yet has better management |
| 06:06.07 | Dogmai | IMO |
| 06:06.17 | JademusSreg | While I use galaxy, I don't hassle GUI users this time around. |
| 06:06.19 | Dogmai | may as well use gui |
| 06:06.20 | obliviron | there's no management in sc2.. |
| 06:06.22 | Dogmai | lol |
| 06:06.33 | obliviron | You can only declare variables before the actual triggers |
| 06:06.34 | Mexa | what Jademus said:> |
| 06:06.41 | obliviron | You cant use pointers |
| 06:06.49 | obliviron | No x arrays |
| 06:06.58 | Dogmai | i miss dynamic arrays |
| 06:07.06 | obliviron | miss em? |
| 06:07.06 | Mexa | multidimensional arrays is there |
| 06:07.09 | JademusSreg | Galaxy hasn't allowed pointers since the start of beta. |
| 06:07.09 | Dogmai | trigger error over array limit my ass |
| 06:07.13 | Mexa | if that's what you meant |
| 06:07.13 | obliviron | galaxy never had dynamic arrays |
| 06:07.16 | Dogmai | from wc3 |
| 06:07.24 | obliviron | wc3 had it? |
| 06:07.28 | Mexa | no |
| 06:07.29 | Dogmai | yes |
| 06:07.32 | Dogmai | no? |
| 06:07.41 | Mexa | arrays weren't dynamic in jass |
| 06:07.43 | obliviron | if wc3 had it, then sc2 would have |
| 06:07.49 | JademusSreg | wc3 had 8191 indexes allocated for every array. |
| 06:07.52 | Dogmai | they were dynamic in gui? |
| 06:07.52 | Mexa | They were all huge with 8192 indexes |
| 06:07.56 | obliviron | and there's even a limit on the number of dimensions for an array |
| 06:07.59 | Dogmai | ha |
| 06:08.03 | obliviron | what the hell is that |
| 06:08.05 | JademusSreg | It was static, and it was wasteful. |
| 06:08.11 | Dogmai | indeed |
| 06:08.20 | Dogmai | congrats you taught me something |
| 06:08.26 | Dogmai | now lets keep that between us |
| 06:08.31 | Dogmai | dont want me looking like a noob do we |
| 06:08.37 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 06:08.38 | Mexa | :) |
| 06:09.08 | Dogmai | It makes sense in hindsight, I always figured that they had just been dynamic as I had never reached the limit of one |
| 06:09.25 | obliviron | do array[x] |
| 06:09.28 | obliviron | syntax error |
| 06:09.34 | Dogmai | We need an aussie mod |
| 06:09.41 | Dogmai | Cause no mods are on at this time, everyday |
| 06:09.42 | JademusSreg | Obl, it works with constants. |
| 06:09.50 | obliviron | So? |
| 06:09.52 | Dogmai | Quick, partyvan |
| 06:09.54 | obliviron | That's still a static array |
| 06:10.00 | Dogmai | Lets order some cheese pizza, mods are asleep |
| 06:10.00 | Mexa | Hmm, interesting |
| 06:10.01 | obliviron | Dynamic arrays allow you to create complex loops |
| 06:10.02 | Mexa | text txt1 = StringToText("HEJ"); |
| 06:10.02 | Mexa | text txt2 = StringToText("HEJ"); |
| 06:10.02 | Mexa | text txt3 = txt2; |
| 06:10.02 | Mexa | handle h1 = txt1; |
| 06:10.02 | Mexa | handle h2 = txt2; |
| 06:10.02 | Mexa | handle h3 = txt3; |
| 06:10.06 | JademusSreg | Sure, but I had to poke a hole. |
| 06:10.15 | Mexa | all these text values are at the same adress |
| 06:11.22 | Mexa | so, identical text values are also somewhat managed so that they don't make copies in the memory? |
| 06:11.29 | Mexa | Like strings. |
| 06:11.38 | JademusSreg | const int arrayLimit = 8192; int[arrayLimit] integerArray; =D |
| 06:11.49 | Mexa | Except that strings actually have different adresses |
| 06:11.59 | JademusSreg | Not dynamic, but your example expression could have compiled given a constant x. |
| 06:12.13 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka |
| 06:12.43 | obliviron | The point of dynamic arrays is to take up less space |
| 06:12.55 | obliviron | What are the chances that you'll need 8k+ variables in an array |
| 06:13.22 | obliviron | anyways, gnight |
| 06:13.31 | Mexa | I take back what I said about text |
| 06:13.38 | Mexa | I misread an E as an F |
| 06:13.46 | Mexa | They work exactly the same as string |
| 06:13.48 | Mexa | *strings |
| 06:13.54 | Mexa | clears chat. |
| 06:14.06 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 06:14.17 | JademusSreg | The stream lag in unbearable. |
| 06:14.28 | Mexa | Have not seen any lag :v |
| 06:14.39 | Mexa | But I haven't been watching the last minutes |
| 06:14.46 | Mexa | The sound is not lagging |
| 06:14.48 | Mexa | anyways. |
| 06:15.40 | JademusSreg | Exactly. |
| 06:15.41 | Mexa | ooh, I remember, Kikiwaki likes Mothership |
| 06:15.53 | Mexa | Might see one, considering he is building a fleat bacon |
| 06:15.56 | Mexa | *beacon |
| 06:16.56 | Mexa | yep, there it goes |
| 06:19.14 | Mexa | lol, Moon made 18 mutas |
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| 06:22.21 | JademusSreg | Nice. |
| 06:22.26 | Mexa | :D |
| 06:22.26 | JademusSreg | Alright, time for me to sleep. |
| 06:22.28 | JademusSreg | Later. |
| 06:22.30 | Mexa | nooo |
| 06:22.38 | Mexa | Nightynight on you |
| 06:22.42 | Mexa | :v |
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| 07:25.43 | onetwo | man |
| 07:25.46 | onetwo | the green lantern |
| 07:25.54 | onetwo | these super hero movies are just getting ridiculous |
| 07:32.09 | Mexa | xmen is soon to be in the cinema too |
| 07:32.11 | Mexa | :> |
| 07:32.30 | Mexa | a new one. |
| 07:48.58 | Mexa | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1820954303 lols |
| 07:53.47 | onetwo | i wish he had taken a more realistic approach |
| 07:53.54 | onetwo | the writing got too ridiculous |
| 07:53.55 | onetwo | midway |
| 07:53.56 | onetwo | lol |
| 07:57.20 | Mexa | :P still a funny read |
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| 08:29.38 | Mitts | Hey, does anyone feel like testing a new Tower Wars map? |
| 08:29.46 | Mitts | (North American Servers) |
| 08:33.28 | HP-X|Arthas | "Heh, that would be teenage boys who get off on infested Kerrigan. Haha, just kidding, little humor there..." |
| 08:33.31 | HP-X|Arthas | :| |
| 08:36.08 | Mitts | @_@ |
| 08:36.26 | HP-X|Arthas | that explains the lack of rule34 kerrigan :( |
| 08:48.27 | Mexa | omg... Justin Bieber has made his own perfume. |
| 08:48.44 | Mexa | "Meant for females" |
| 08:48.50 | Griffenator | lol |
| 08:49.04 | Griffenator | New Kerrigan looks ugly as fuck. |
| 08:49.27 | Mexa | Didn't she look like that in the end of WoL? |
| 08:52.07 | Dogmai | thats funny as all hell |
| 08:52.11 | Dogmai | @ hexa |
| 08:52.24 | Dogmai | mexa |
| 08:52.25 | Dogmai | my bad |
| 08:52.48 | Dogmai | workin with colours atm |
| 08:52.52 | Dogmai | hex stuck in my head |
| 08:56.41 | Mexa | hum |
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| 09:39.37 | Nash|327 | BRAINHACK |
| 09:40.10 | Brainshack | waaaazuuuuuuuuuuuppppppppppp?? |
| 09:40.49 | Stewox | hi |
| 09:40.52 | Nash|327 | Wasp? |
| 09:42.50 | Nash|327 | Hack brains |
| 09:43.40 | Brainshack | are you guys still awake? |
| 09:43.49 | Nash|327 | still? |
| 09:44.06 | Stewox | nope i woked up 2hrs ago |
| 09:44.20 | Brainshack | yeah isnt it in the middle of the night down in the us?^^ |
| 09:44.24 | Nash|327 | woked :o |
| 09:44.29 | Nash|327 | tasty wok |
| 09:44.35 | Nash|327 | nom |
| 09:45.01 | Nash|327 | Who cares what time it is in the US ;G |
| 09:45.22 | Brainshack | dunno, thought you were from there |
| 09:47.31 | Nash|327 | Why would I be D_D |
| 09:47.45 | Nash|327 | That would suck D:! |
| 09:49.47 | obliviron | Hey stewox |
| 09:49.53 | Stewox | ye |
| 09:49.54 | obliviron | Had your sleep? |
| 09:50.55 | obliviron | Anyways, did you read the pm? |
| 09:51.05 | Stewox | i will read it today yes |
| 09:51.22 | Stewox | i will most likely be back later |
| 09:51.37 | Stewox | but when i get back i have to do something so im unavailable til evening |
| 09:51.43 | Stewox | ur time zone ? |
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| 09:53.25 | Nash|327 | it's alive |
| 09:53.30 | Dresnia | tell me baby what's your story |
| 10:13.34 | Nash|327 | Dresnia |
| 10:13.37 | Nash|327 | D:< |
| 10:13.44 | Nash|327 | DARK TEMPLAR |
| 10:15.09 | Nash|327 | mah MSN has crashed |
| 10:23.42 | Mexa | ewh, msn. |
| 10:26.46 | Nash|327 | Ew indeed. |
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| 11:17.39 | Nash|327 | burne the Finnish nubberskate D: |
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| 11:51.11 | Nash|327 | blub blub |
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| 12:31.35 | Mexa_ | gotta say windows 8 looks pretty cool |
| 12:31.57 | Mexa_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92QfWOw88I |
| 12:34.45 | Dresnia | bloody youtube player |
| 12:34.52 | Dresnia | some days 1080p loads instant |
| 12:34.57 | Mexa_ | the new one? |
| 12:35.00 | Dresnia | other days 360p wont move |
| 12:35.02 | Dresnia | no idea |
| 12:35.19 | Mexa_ | The new thing is a piece of shit, at least now in the "testing" phase |
| 12:35.27 | Mexa_ | And apparantly, it seems that it is only me |
| 12:35.30 | Dresnia | how to enable the new one |
| 12:35.34 | Mexa_ | You don't |
| 12:35.52 | Mexa_ | It replaces the original on randomly selected videos or something |
| 12:36.01 | Mexa_ | But apparantly not for all users. |
| 12:36.42 | Dresnia | I'm not logged in so maybe that's why |
| 12:36.48 | Dresnia | but why won't this frigging load |
| 12:36.49 | Mexa_ | No |
| 12:36.50 | Dresnia | jezus |
| 12:36.57 | Mexa_ | It happends even without it |
| 12:37.02 | Mexa_ | For me at least |
| 12:37.25 | Dresnia | other videos load instant |
| 12:37.31 | Dresnia | so why does microsoft fail even on youtube |
| 12:37.38 | HeelGrabber | that windows 8 video looks like its only good for a tablet |
| 12:37.42 | HeelGrabber | doesn't it? |
| 12:38.00 | HeelGrabber | that is how i felt atleast |
| 12:38.17 | Nash|327 | kittuns |
| 12:38.20 | Mexa_ | Well, they did say that it should be as good with keyboard and mouse |
| 12:38.27 | Mexa_ | But yeah, he is using a touchscreen so. |
| 12:38.36 | Nash|327 | DRESNIA |
| 12:38.40 | Nash|327 | YOU SMELL |
| 12:38.45 | Mexa_ | It does feel more like a portable thing |
| 12:38.49 | Nash|327 | Go mess around with the Dark Templar D; |
| 12:38.49 | HeelGrabber | i think i'd still say in desktop mode |
| 12:39.02 | HeelGrabber | stay* |
| 12:39.08 | Mexa_ | mm, tho such apps would be convenient |
| 12:39.16 | Mexa_ | *some apps |
| 12:39.51 | Mexa_ | Yeah, we'll see how good or bad this turns out |
| 12:44.04 | Dresnia | I"m having a Hunted lan party man :o |
| 12:44.07 | Dresnia | It's awesome |
| 12:44.21 | Blub\w | 14:32:00 Mexa_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p92QfWOw88I |
| 12:44.25 | Blub\w | looks like a broken android =P |
| 12:44.52 | Dresnia | I dislike this smartphone desktop idea tbh |
| 12:44.55 | Dresnia | why not icons |
| 12:45.18 | Blub\w | because icons are annoying =) |
| 12:45.22 | Blub\w | terminals ftw |
| 12:45.35 | Dresnia | Just keep it simple imo |
| 12:45.56 | Blub\w | GUIs make me aggressive because the mouse is so slow :S |
| 12:46.05 | Dresnia | now it's just a vista lol |
| 12:46.10 | Dresnia | what are they doin |
| 12:46.22 | Blub\w | if I have to browse through my files with the mouse I get angry about the fact that i can't just tabcomplete words :P |
| 12:46.44 | Blub\w | Dresnia: it's like adding compiz when you're on linux :P |
| 12:46.49 | Mexa_ | terminals? console windows? |
| 12:46.55 | Blub\w | you get your normal desktop with some compositing crap around it xD |
| 12:46.56 | Mexa_ | ewh. |
| 12:47.06 | Blub\w | Mexa_: kinda |
| 12:47.06 | Blub\w | except |
| 12:47.11 | Blub\w | without the "windows" part =P |
| 12:47.31 | Mexa_ | more ewh._. |
| 12:48.19 | Blub\w | why ewh? :> |
| 12:48.27 | Blub\w | tmux, weechat, properly configured vim plus plugins for coding, mpd with ncmpcpp for music :D |
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| 12:51.28 | UloseTheGame | whatever happened to Mephs' schedule lawl |
| 12:51.46 | UloseTheGame | It imploded so everyone had to jump on streamster and take over |
| 12:53.15 | UloseTheGame | Also Jade, you should come to streamster, monday-friday it's good stuff |
| 12:53.20 | Stewox | one thing i know for sure , i won't be upgrading OS for another 6 years |
| 12:53.21 | UloseTheGame | it's just wednesday is for newbs :D |
| 12:53.26 | UloseTheGame | tuesday is terrain |
| 12:53.28 | Stewox | win8 will be another vista |
| 12:53.32 | UloseTheGame | data editor is mondays |
| 12:53.34 | Stewox | and win7 another XP |
| 12:53.39 | UloseTheGame | triggers thursday |
| 12:53.49 | UloseTheGame | I cant catch any of the times though lawl |
| 12:54.00 | UloseTheGame | cause i have school and sleep to take care of :\ |
| 12:57.19 | Mephs | america is best world power |
| 12:57.42 | UloseTheGame | ohai, mephs, what happened to your schedule? |
| 12:57.52 | UloseTheGame | Did it implode as per usual? |
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| 12:58.02 | Mephs | what? |
| 12:58.05 | Mephs | what schedule |
| 12:58.22 | Mephs | the only schedule i'm on is schedule 2. |
| 12:58.26 | UloseTheGame | You were hosting 4/5 days sc2streamster, you did one rotation, and suddenly you're doing none |
| 12:58.57 | Mephs | yeah. |
| 12:58.58 | Mephs | cuz |
| 12:59.02 | Mephs | yea. |
| 12:59.04 | UloseTheGame | Actually, technically it was half a rotation |
| 12:59.10 | UloseTheGame | But carry on |
| 12:59.25 | Mephs | because it takes an extraodinary amount of effort to come up with something that A) i'm interested in talking about, B) people will understand |
| 12:59.37 | Mephs | and i've come to the conclusion that there are 0% possibilities that meet both requirements. |
| 13:00.19 | UloseTheGame | Perhaps you could talk about incredibly advanced shit on fridays only? |
| 13:00.31 | UloseTheGame | we could call it Above-Your-Level Fridays |
| 13:01.02 | Mephs | but then no one would tune in. |
| 13:01.04 | UloseTheGame | And people will come because A) they want to attempt to understand it, and perhaps learn something |
| 13:01.11 | Mephs | already experimented with semi-advanced shit |
| 13:01.16 | UloseTheGame | or B) They want to laugh at how advanced it is |
| 13:01.18 | Mephs | like that brush tutorial |
| 13:01.24 | Mephs | thats fairly noob shit |
| 13:01.29 | UloseTheGame | You know what would be interesting |
| 13:01.30 | Mephs | and everyone literally was like "I dont get it, bye" |
| 13:01.51 | Mephs | i think the only show i could put on that people would watch and be entertained by is "mephs plays custom maps night" |
| 13:01.53 | UloseTheGame | How bout on fridays, you and me team up and criticize custom maps |
| 13:02.04 | Mephs | because i'd have nothing good to say about anything |
| 13:02.04 | UloseTheGame | prolly yes |
| 13:02.07 | UloseTheGame | ^ |
| 13:02.17 | UloseTheGame | I'll see ya mephs |
| 13:02.21 | Mephs | you should've been there on my stream when i spent an hour playing random list games |
| 13:02.28 | UloseTheGame | lawl |
| 13:02.28 | Mephs | highest # of viewers i ever had |
| 13:02.34 | Mephs | and all i was doing was raging at how bad they were |
| 13:02.35 | Mephs | the games |
| 13:03.10 | Mephs | i got to play cortex, mafia, and island defense. |
| 13:03.11 | Dresnia | I played that erm |
| 13:03.15 | Dresnia | battle shit 1338 today |
| 13:03.19 | Mephs | oh and 1v1 obs. |
| 13:03.26 | Dresnia | nexus/income wars all over again lol |
| 13:03.29 | Mephs | all of my opponents were bronze/silver, accused me of hacking |
| 13:03.34 | Mephs | and all left after i won twice in a row |
| 13:03.37 | Dresnia | Why oh why do people like this 1hour work maps so much man =( |
| 13:03.39 | Mephs | mind you i hadn't touched ladder in months. |
| 13:03.45 | Mephs | I CANT WAIT FOR MARKETPLACE |
| 13:03.59 | Mephs | in the news: creator of nexus wars makes $500,000 overnight |
| 13:04.26 | Dresnia | yeah |
| 13:04.27 | Mephs | in other news: smashcraft sells 0 copies @ .99c/each, consumers claim "not polished enough" |
| 13:04.38 | Dresnia | rofl |
| 13:04.53 | Dresnia | Well the bonus is |
| 13:04.54 | Mephs | i'm already gearing up for the marketplace game though. i've got a slew of awesome maps ready to throw at people |
| 13:05.06 | Mephs | maps such as "spam marines" |
| 13:05.13 | Dresnia | Nexus etc, once it sells |
| 13:05.13 | Mephs | and "marine wars" |
| 13:05.19 | Dresnia | Everyone will copy paste it |
| 13:05.23 | Dresnia | since any monkey can make it |
| 13:05.23 | Nash|327 | haha |
| 13:05.33 | Dresnia | But not everyone can make stuff like Smashcraft or so |
| 13:05.46 | Dresnia | So hopefully it balances out, if blizzard monitors it |
| 13:05.48 | Dresnia | wich I doubt |
| 13:06.12 | Mephs | honestly |
| 13:06.18 | Mephs | i hope they have some kind of quality control |
| 13:06.20 | Mephs | but i doubt they will |
| 13:06.24 | Mephs | since blizzard knows shit maps will sell |
| 13:06.28 | Mephs | and they'll make $ off em |
| 13:06.37 | Dresnia | Blizzard likely gets 50% a sale |
| 13:06.38 | Dresnia | or more |
| 13:06.39 | Dresnia | so meh |
| 13:06.41 | Mephs | exactly |
| 13:06.42 | Nash|327 | Marketplace will suck and should be ignored. |
| 13:06.49 | Mephs | why QC something if you can make money off it? |
| 13:06.52 | Dresnia | but I readed originally Marketplace will be all free |
| 13:06.57 | HeelGrabber | bobbyyyy |
| 13:07.02 | Mephs | map makers like nexus wars and zealot frenzy make bank |
| 13:07.10 | Mephs | the professional and polished maps make zip |
| 13:07.18 | Nash|327 | Well the selling maps part will be shitty D: |
| 13:07.19 | Mephs | so why aim for quality |
| 13:07.31 | Mephs | when you can just bust out 5 hr maps every day |
| 13:07.37 | Dresnia | it would be amazing to update your map for a living |
| 13:07.49 | Dresnia | but I doubt it will be like that |
| 13:07.50 | Dresnia | =( |
| 13:07.53 | Mephs | if |
| 13:07.57 | Mephs | i made $10,000 |
| 13:07.59 | Mephs | off smashcraft |
| 13:08.02 | Mephs | from marketplace sales |
| 13:08.06 | Mephs | i'd have worked for $2.25/hr |
| 13:08.14 | Mephs | if nexus wars made $10,000 |
| 13:08.22 | Mephs | that's like what, $500/hr |
| 13:08.26 | Mephs | YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAH |
| 13:08.35 | Dresnia | at the current state |
| 13:08.44 | Dresnia | nexus / income will earn 80% of all income |
| 13:08.56 | Nash|327 | I've written 3 books and have made 0 off them :P |
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| 13:09.20 | Dresnia | They should make a system so you buy a 'unlock' to a creator group |
| 13:09.28 | Dresnia | So we could dump crap maps too attract people |
| 13:09.35 | Dresnia | And make them try out the bigger pieces |
| 13:09.38 | Mephs | i honestly dont like the idea of selling a map |
| 13:09.41 | Dresnia | Thereby they might realise stuff |
| 13:09.48 | Nash|327 | I don't either. |
| 13:09.53 | Mephs | until they have global banks, access to their laddering system, and achievements |
| 13:10.12 | Nash|327 | Selling something that can be copied at no cost. |
| 13:10.14 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 13:10.17 | Dresnia | I dislike this marketplace idea aswell, but I would love too work at home as a game developer :P |
| 13:10.26 | Mephs | i would love it if i knew i could make maps for extra $ |
| 13:10.36 | Mephs | because its really easy to make good maps in galaxy |
| 13:10.38 | Nash|327 | I pirate stuff frequently. |
| 13:10.49 | Nash|327 | And I wouldn't charge people for my work. |
| 13:11.01 | Mephs | i dont see anything selfish about asking 1-2 bucks for your toil. |
| 13:11.09 | Mephs | esp if you made something truly quality |
| 13:11.31 | Nash|327 | Selling something that can be copied for free is bizarre. |
| 13:11.39 | Mephs | and every fat ass who's at home with 3 big mac meals in their lap saying you're a greedy piece of shit |
| 13:11.42 | Mephs | NO COMMENT |
| 13:12.04 | Mephs | ah...yeah, i'm talking about maps that can't just be "copied" |
| 13:12.22 | Nash|327 | Yes, you're talking about a service provided as well. |
| 13:12.33 | Mephs | they need to make their current services wor |
| 13:12.43 | Mephs | work* before they add something that won't improve the current ones |
| 13:15.40 | Dresnia | Well if there was an easy way too 'balance' this stuff blizzard would do it |
| 13:15.50 | Dresnia | but I honestly got no clue how it could be done properly |
| 13:17.20 | Dresnia | Nash|327: , did you check the vulcano yet ? |
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| 13:22.12 | burne- | I really dislike idea of paying sc2 maps but yea as a map maker it would be so cool to get money from your work |
| 13:22.56 | burne- | and as the maps on sc2 there really arent maps I would like to buy, which makes me wonder will there be any quality fun maps I would want to invest in |
| 13:23.44 | burne- | and since I really only play custom maps on mapnight, the marketplace cannot be such a huge deal for me |
| 13:24.12 | burne- | Dresnia: you would eyegasm if you saw my latest spells |
| 13:24.13 | burne- | :) |
| 13:24.34 | burne- | still need 3 more spells for godric though |
| 13:24.50 | Nash|327 | D: |
| 13:25.19 | Blub\w | I wouldn't pay for maps :S |
| 13:25.36 | burne- | ooh blub isd heeeeeere!!!! |
| 13:25.36 | Blub\w | but I imagine it could be compared to say... the android app market or something |
| 13:25.44 | Blub\w | yes I am |
| 13:25.47 | burne- | how you been mate? |
| 13:25.50 | burne- | done any mapping? |
| 13:25.51 | Nash|327 | I wouldn't pay for maps, I don't even play other people's maps D_D |
| 13:25.58 | Blub\w | too busy to even be online... so... no |
| 13:26.09 | Blub\w | also, I'm not rly mapping much anymore |
| 13:26.11 | burne- | I think I could pay for quality maps for like 1-3d |
| 13:26.14 | Blub\w | got other work |
| 13:26.23 | burne- | but maybe not |
| 13:26.29 | burne- | might as well support real games like witcher 2 |
| 13:26.42 | Blub\w | I'd pay 1⬠for a 10-pack of maps maybe :P if all 10 are good |
| 13:26.49 | Blub\w | but well |
| 13:26.56 | Blub\w | I'd only consider it, but wouldn't actually do it |
| 13:27.07 | Nash|327 | Not even worth bothering to actually pay for shit. |
| 13:27.17 | Blub\w | burne-: the "real" games which *need* support are indie games! :P |
| 13:27.19 | burne- | Blub\w: yea...same for me :P |
| 13:27.20 | Nash|327 | The effort of inputting credit card info isn't even worth it. |
| 13:27.27 | burne- | well I dunno if there are good indie games |
| 13:27.29 | Blub\w | also...: |
| 13:27.30 | Blub\w | points burne- to http://www.frictionalgames.com |
| 13:27.36 | Nash|327 | Even if it was a fraction of a euro. |
| 13:27.44 | burne- | magicko is actually a game I wanted to buy |
| 13:27.46 | Nash|327 | So fuck it. |
| 13:27.47 | burne- | but im too lazy |
| 13:27.55 | burne- | the gameplay is like made for me |
| 13:27.56 | burne- | I like it |
| 13:28.02 | Blub\w | Nash|327: they probably force you to connect credit card information directly to your account :P |
| 13:28.02 | Nash|327 | Magicka sucked. |
| 13:28.03 | burne- | I played the demo :/ |
| 13:28.05 | Blub\w | and you pay automagically |
| 13:28.08 | Blub\w | xD |
| 13:28.18 | Blub\w | creates the horror scenario... |
| 13:28.42 | Nash|327 | They can't charge you without your consent. |
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| 13:29.54 | burne- | amnesia? no ty! |
| 13:29.56 | Blub\w | Nash|327: they'll add a tooltip to the "Join" button "by clicking you agree to..." |
| 13:29.57 | Blub\w | :P |
| 13:30.04 | Blub\w | burne-: WHA? |
| 13:30.20 | burne- | there was mention of amnesia on the link |
| 13:30.27 | burne- | so i though that what game it was for |
| 13:30.38 | Blub\w | that too |
| 13:30.41 | Blub\w | amnesia, and the penumbra series |
| 13:30.44 | Blub\w | great games :> |
| 13:30.48 | burne- | nonono |
| 13:31.18 | Blub\w | well, how about: http://www.braid-game.com/ |
| 13:31.24 | Nash|327 | Amnesia looked like an utter shit game. |
| 13:31.40 | Blub\w | Nash|327: not sure how to respond to that... |
| 13:31.41 | Nash|327 | Braid, I don't like platformers. |
| 13:31.55 | Blub\w | I'm trying to consider the "looked like" as a "but turned out to be quite AMAZING" |
| 13:32.02 | Nash|327 | The rewind was good since you could rewind if you missed your jump. |
| 13:32.04 | burne- | prince of persia? |
| 13:32.22 | Blub\w | burne-: sure, if you mean the *old* one =) |
| 13:32.25 | Nash|327 | But then they started doing stuff where you had to time your rewinds perfectly |
| 13:32.47 | Blub\w | http://www.afreakstream.com/news/2008/10/28/prince-of-persia-1985.html |
| 13:32.47 | Nash|327 | with those enemies not affected by rewind and shit. |
| 13:32.59 | Blub\w | Nash|327: that's what makes it so good |
| 13:33.00 | Nash|327 | And the whole mechanic became self-defeating. |
| 13:33.01 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 13:33.11 | Blub\w | it's not a dumb "invulnerable due to rewind" jump&run |
| 13:33.19 | Blub\w | you have to use your brain for it |
| 13:33.27 | Blub\w | these days too many games get dumbed down |
| 13:33.32 | Nash|327 | No, you have to use perfect timing. |
| 13:33.34 | Blub\w | (((for console gamers))) |
| 13:33.56 | Nash|327 | Which is something I hate about platformers. |
| 13:34.16 | Nash|327 | That and the endless pits of instant death and other generally unforgiving shit. |
| 13:34.45 | Blub\w | maybe you're too young... |
| 13:34.58 | Nash|327 | ... |
| 13:35.00 | Blub\w | :P |
| 13:35.24 | Nash|327 | If I'm too young then who the fuck is old enough? |
| 13:35.59 | Nash|327 | Amnesia looked pointless. |
| 13:36.06 | Blub\w | people who still know what a Sega Mega Drive is :P |
| 13:36.09 | Nash|327 | No real gameplay, just OMG TEH SCARY MONSTARS |
| 13:36.32 | Blub\w | Nash|327: well, you have to like HP Lovecraft stuff |
| 13:36.36 | Blub\w | and have to actually get into the feeling |
| 13:36.40 | Nash|327 | Horror sucks. |
| 13:37.20 | Nash|327 | SEGA! |
| 13:37.34 | Nash|327 | That was a while ago D_D |
| 13:38.15 | Blub\w | :) |
| 13:38.20 | Nash|327 | I remember that thingy vaguely. |
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| 13:39.41 | Nash|327 | Must've been 10 years old or something. |
| 13:41.03 | Blub\w | people who freak when they hear the sonic RING sound :D |
| 13:41.08 | Blub\w | ^^ |
| 13:41.19 | Nash|327 | I have some old 80s Transformers still, wonder if they are worth something to some nerd. |
| 13:44.23 | Nash|327 | Thing is, those old console games sucked. |
| 13:44.28 | Nash|327 | Mario, Sonic, whatever. |
| 13:44.33 | Nash|327 | Fucking platformers. |
| 13:45.19 | Nash|327 | I know nerds got all nostalgic over them, but I didn't like them then, and I don't like them now. |
| 13:46.18 | Nash|327 | Give me a game with quicksave and adaptable pacing. |
| 13:49.03 | Blub\w | quicksave |
| 13:49.06 | Blub\w | see, you want easy stuff :P |
| 13:49.12 | Blub\w | nobrainers :P |
| 13:49.24 | Blub\w | not being able to save at any point in time makes games far more interesting |
| 13:49.26 | burne- | platformeeers ruuuuuuule the wooooooorld |
| 13:49.28 | burne- | or they should |
| 13:49.37 | Nash|327 | I don't want to be punished for failing and having to redo shit I ALREADY COMPLETED |
| 13:50.09 | Nash|327 | I DID THIS SHIT, NOW I MUST DO IT AGAIN!? FUCK YOU, GAME, FUCK YOU! |
| 13:50.23 | Blub\w | so you just want it to be more like a movie :P |
| 13:50.29 | Blub\w | fall down somewhere, hit the "WIN" button |
| 13:50.54 | Nash|327 | I want to keep trying at stuff I haven't completed yet. |
| 13:51.00 | Nash|327 | Not redo shit I already did. |
| 13:51.41 | Blub\w | like I said, WIN button :P |
| 13:51.53 | Nash|327 | You're full of crap. |
| 13:52.04 | Nash|327 | Oh well. |
| 13:52.06 | Blub\w | good games like sonic |
| 13:52.14 | Blub\w | have savepoints after every tough part |
| 13:52.25 | Blub\w | that's enough |
| 13:52.31 | Blub\w | and you don't have infinite tries ofc |
| 13:52.39 | Nash|327 | RETARDED. |
| 13:52.44 | Blub\w | no |
| 13:52.50 | Blub\w | it's good |
| 13:52.54 | burne- | I agree no! |
| 13:53.01 | Mitts | So, I need some testers for a game, what's the best way to recruit some people? |
| 13:53.02 | Blub\w | infinite tries + quicksave = WIN button |
| 13:53.10 | burne- | donkey kong for wii is also freaking hard and its good no autosaves |
| 13:53.28 | burne- | allthough I gave up on like the last world since it was maybe a bit too hard with some lelvels |
| 13:53.30 | Blub\w | Mitts: hit 'em on the head with a stick, and drag them over to your map |
| 13:53.33 | Nash|327 | Never become a game or interaction designer kthx. |
| 13:53.39 | Blub\w | Nash|327: already am |
| 13:53.53 | Nash|327 | Well then off yourself now. |
| 13:54.08 | Nash|327 | Spare the world your shitty design philosophies :/ |
| 13:54.19 | Nash|327 | ALLOW TRIAL AND ERROR!? FUCK NO! |
| 13:54.31 | Nash|327 | LET'S PUNISH PLAYERS FOR NOT SUCCEEDING LOL! |
| 13:54.36 | Blub\w | remembers fallout 3, where qucksaving+loading took about 1 second ... |
| 13:54.45 | Blub\w | aim with the sniper rifle, shoot, hit quickload, shoot, hit quicklod |
| 13:54.50 | Blub\w | after 5 seconds: headshot |
| 13:54.51 | Blub\w | infinite tries |
| 13:54.53 | Blub\w | boring |
| 13:54.55 | Blub\w | = WIN button |
| 13:55.07 | Blub\w | get 10 ammo for your sniper and you have enough for the whole agme |
| 13:55.11 | Blub\w | because you have a heashot button |
| 13:55.16 | Blub\w | aka quickload |
| 13:55.21 | Nash|327 | qq |
| 13:55.24 | Blub\w | THAT'S retarded |
| 13:55.45 | Blub\w | "QQ", right, that's what you do if you forgot to quicksave |
| 13:55.56 | burne- | lol nash |
| 13:56.02 | burne- | you have proved your designs with fringe |
| 13:56.03 | Nash|327 | Portal was an awesome puzzle/platform game. |
| 13:56.04 | burne- | -_- |
| 13:56.18 | Nash|327 | Fell off map? Oh well, load, try again. |
| 13:56.39 | Nash|327 | Not HAHA BACK TO CHAMBER ONE YOU NOOB |
| 13:56.46 | Blub\w | with fixed savepoints it would have been more interesting =P |
| 13:56.51 | Blub\w | Nash|327: no, not chamber one |
| 13:56.54 | Blub\w | just start of the last chamber |
| 13:57.04 | Nash|327 | I would not have played Portal if they did that shit. |
| 13:57.39 | Blub\w | and I'd be fine with that :P |
| 13:57.59 | Nash|327 | Apparently you like redoing the same stuff. |
| 13:58.13 | Nash|327 | Maybe it gives you conform to repeat it. |
| 13:58.22 | Nash|327 | So you don't have to think about something new. |
| 13:58.34 | Blub\w | no |
| 13:58.37 | Blub\w | it's a punishment |
| 13:58.50 | Nash|327 | Too hard to think, need a break where you mindlessly repeat something. |
| 13:58.54 | Blub\w | at the end of the day it makes you better |
| 13:58.57 | Nash|327 | BRAIN MUST COOL DOWN |
| 13:58.58 | Blub\w | it's motivation |
| 13:59.00 | Blub\w | to be better |
| 13:59.05 | Blub\w | instead of hitting a win button |
| 13:59.14 | Blub\w | you train your skills |
| 13:59.24 | Blub\w | Nash|327: quite the opposite |
| 13:59.27 | Blub\w | win buttons = nobrainers |
| 13:59.40 | Blub\w | if you get punished, you have motivation to be better at the next run |
| 13:59.48 | Blub\w | because you don't WANT to repeat |
| 14:00.03 | Blub\w | that's the whole point, you don't WANT to have to repeat |
| 14:00.14 | Nash|327 | Of course you don't. |
| 14:00.18 | Nash|327 | So why should you? |
| 14:00.22 | Blub\w | because you fucked up |
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| 14:00.37 | Nash|327 | What is this masochism some people seem to enjoy? |
| 14:00.53 | Nash|327 | I HAVE BEEN BAD, I MUST BE PUNISHED! |
| 14:00.56 | Blub\w | I'll stop now, you like nobrainer games, and I can't change that |
| 14:01.10 | Mitts | Blub, what are you, 13 years old? |
| 14:01.21 | Mitts | "STOP LIKING THINGS!!!!" |
| 14:01.29 | Blub\w | Mitts: on the contrary |
| 14:01.32 | Blub\w | Mitts: start liking this |
| 14:02.08 | Nash|327 | You can say I like nobrainers, I can say you like mindlessly repeating shit to punish yourself in some sort of bizarre manifestation of deeply rooted mental issues. |
| 14:02.19 | Blub\w | it's not me punishing myself |
| 14:02.27 | Blub\w | you get punished by the game if you fail... |
| 14:02.35 | Nash|327 | And you chose to play such games. |
| 14:02.44 | Nash|327 | Thus you punish yourself. |
| 14:02.46 | Blub\w | if the games are good |
| 14:02.49 | Nash|327 | You are a sick sick man. |
| 14:02.55 | Nash|327 | Seek help D: |
| 14:02.59 | Blub\w | dude... |
| 14:03.13 | Blub\w | you have to spin this so the people who like these games are sick, do you? |
| 14:03.22 | Blub\w | "we play the gams solely to punish ourselves" |
| 14:03.25 | Blub\w | "because life sucks" |
| 14:03.27 | Blub\w | boohoo |
| 14:03.34 | Nash|327 | Well you have to spin it that people who don't like nobrainers. |
| 14:03.37 | Blub\w | If the games are good, you play them |
| 14:03.56 | Blub\w | and many people, like me and burne-, like to have a challenge |
| 14:03.59 | Nash|327 | Two can play this game. |
| 14:04.06 | Brainshack | Blub\w: never argue with Nash, its pointless^^ |
| 14:04.13 | Nash|327 | This ad hominem game. |
| 14:05.57 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 14:10.18 | Nash|327 | Well if people want to fling poo instead of serious discussion I don't think there being a point to it is what's important. |
| 14:10.37 | Nash|327 | So yeah, it is pointless. |
| 14:12.40 | Blub\w | I believe it was you who started with the swearing... |
| 14:13.12 | Nash|327 | Oh no, swearing! |
| 14:13.19 | Nash|327 | I swear all the fucking time, big deal. |
| 14:13.34 | Nash|327 | (15:51:38) (Blub\w) like I said, WIN button :P |
| 14:13.35 | Nash|327 | (15:51:49) (Nash|327) You're full of crap. |
| 14:13.35 | Nash|327 | (15:52:01) (Nash|327) Oh well. |
| 14:13.52 | Nash|327 | I gave up on this "discussion" at that point. |
| 14:14.03 | Nash|327 | LOL OMG NOBRAINERS WIN BUTTON OMGWTFBBQ |
| 14:14.08 | Blub\w | 15:50:12 Nash|327 | I DID THIS SHIT, NOW I MUST DO IT AGAIN!? FUCK YOU, GAME, FUCK YOU! |
| 14:14.12 | Blub\w | <- at that point |
| 14:15.07 | Nash|327 | You clearly just wanted to fling poo by saying I like nobrainers, so why should I attempt a serious discussion? |
| 14:15.23 | Nash|327 | Fuck that. |
| 14:16.31 | Blub\w | No I didn't. Sorry you felt that way... |
| 14:17.24 | Nash|327 | Well you didn't respond with anything valid. |
| 14:17.34 | Nash|327 | Just "nobrainers" and "win button". |
| 14:17.50 | Nash|327 | Which has nothing to do with it. |
| 14:18.39 | Stewox | http://www.nyanicorn.com/ |
| 14:19.08 | Vail | hello folks |
| 14:19.32 | Nash|327 | Kittuns. |
| 14:19.42 | Nash|327 | From Stewox no less! |
| 14:19.46 | Nash|327 | Shocking! |
| 14:22.36 | Blub\w | "win button" is just a good way to express how I feel about it... I didn't intend to offend you with it... though I admit "nobrainer" was too much... as it actually is a bit offensive :S |
| 14:23.14 | Nash|327 | That games need to be punitive and force repetition to be challenging is a falsehood. |
| 14:23.48 | Blub\w | and that statement is too general :P |
| 14:24.04 | Blub\w | I'm not saying doing it different is "wrong" either |
| 14:24.05 | Nash|327 | The point is that the game should be challenging by letting you attempt one part until you succeed. |
| 14:24.14 | Nash|327 | And once you have, present another challenge. |
| 14:24.29 | Blub\w | question is: how long IS the challenge? |
| 14:24.31 | Nash|327 | Not forcing you to repeat an earlier one. |
| 14:24.38 | Blub\w | take portal for instance |
| 14:24.44 | Blub\w | to me, the challenge starts when I enter the room |
| 14:25.05 | Blub\w | so, having to start at the beginning of the chamber/room/area would be fine with me |
| 14:25.17 | Nash|327 | For me it's between safe quicksave points. |
| 14:25.22 | Blub\w | not starting at chapter 0 as you suggested... that just aggravated me |
| 14:25.37 | Nash|327 | Sometimes you need to restart the room because you chose the wrong approach at the start. |
| 14:25.50 | Nash|327 | But starting over because I missed a jump and fell in the electric water? |
| 14:25.55 | Nash|327 | FUCK THAT. |
| 14:26.28 | Nash|327 | It's supposed to be a puzzle game, not a "jump flawlessly every time" game. |
| 14:26.31 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 14:26.34 | Blub\w | but if you can quicksave before the jump then that's just the same as making it impossible to actually fall down in the first place :/ |
| 14:27.08 | Nash|327 | As long as you solved the puzzle correctly, yes. |
| 14:27.25 | Blub\w | well, some people like that it's not 100% pure puzzle :) |
| 14:27.35 | Nash|327 | Which is why I play Portal, to solve the puzzles. |
| 14:29.17 | Nash|327 | I don't like platformers and I don't like redoing things, it's so unproductive. |
| 14:30.51 | Nash|327 | Give me new problems to solve when I have completed the old ones :G |
| 14:30.54 | Blub\w | Nash|327: do you happen to know/like TIM? (The Incredible Machine) |
| 14:31.07 | Dresnia | I AM TIM |
| 14:31.16 | Nash|327 | I haven't played it. |
| 14:31.45 | Blub\w | you should try it =) |
| 14:32.12 | Blub\w | pure puzzle game, quite challenging :) |
| 14:32.32 | Nash|327 | I played some machine game... Oh right, this one: http://fantasticcontraption.com/ |
| 14:36.55 | XenoX101 | oh that game was great |
| 14:36.57 | XenoX101 | but hard |
| 14:37.13 | Nash|327 | yeah some levels were mindfucks |
| 14:37.48 | XenoX101 | it was a bit too linear too ;p |
| 14:38.02 | XenoX101 | the harder levels only really had one way to solve them |
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| 14:39.32 | Vail | hello folks |
| 14:39.45 | Nash|327 | Epic Vail? |
| 14:41.13 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 14:52.15 | Mexa_ | http://twitter.com/#!/lulzsec sooo... if they really are doing what whatever they say they are, sony is going to receive more hell |
| 14:52.18 | Mexa_ | .__. |
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| 14:53.44 | Mexa_ | Or they're just trollin, but meeeerh |
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| 15:36.39 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 15:39.13 | JademusSreg | Blub is right about Fallout 3. |
| 15:39.31 | JademusSreg | (And it applies to New Vegas) |
| 15:40.20 | Brainshack | welcome back JademusSreg |
| 15:41.01 | JademusSreg | What are the haps? |
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| 16:18.17 | Vail | epic? |
| 16:18.38 | Vail | sorry i was way distracted for a bit |
| 16:20.58 | Vail | hmm i wonder i need names for the two tech paths for the zerg i am about to start on.. |
| 16:22.54 | Vail | Plaguelings.... i nearly forgot them! that would have sucked |
| 16:37.31 | JademusSreg | ? |
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| 16:45.18 | Vail | i had an idea for a variation of the baneling called a plagueling that when it dies contamniates all structures around it instead of the overseer having contaminate.. as well as structures there would be a new contamination that effects mech units and one that slowly kills organic ones |
| 16:46.07 | Vail | that is the concept right now anyway way it may change alot over time |
| 16:48.49 | Vail | the plagueling is on the zerg corruption tech tree i am working on along with Toxic Creep and Creep gas |
| 16:51.04 | JademusSreg | For Nurgle! |
| 16:51.08 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 16:51.19 | Vail | heh |
| 16:52.38 | Vail | basicly the corruption tree is more for direct and passive ways of dealing damage while the other the Augemtation tree is about buffing more or less and they are mutually exclusive. |
| 16:53.24 | Vail | the augmentation tree has nutrient creep which speeds healing of allied zerg units and structures... |
| 16:54.03 | Vail | will likely contain movement bonuses and other things later as well |
| 16:54.12 | JademusSreg | Modified melee? |
| 16:54.53 | Vail | a mod that is for modified melee a custom campaign and other custom maps |
| 16:57.22 | Vail | terrans have the Biotech Route and the Psi Tech Route which are also mutually exclusive...bio tech grants some campaing things like regenerative bio steel while the psi tech replaces ghosts with wraiths. the both have other effects as well like alone the bio tech route you can replace marines with Bio-roid marines a wee bit more expensive but tougher and fire faster |
| 16:57.48 | Vail | specters rather |
| 16:57.56 | Vail | i havent been awake long enough |
| 17:00.08 | JademusSreg | I only recently noticed CampaignLib.galaxy includes both NativeLib and LibertyLib, and LibertyLib already includes NativeLib. Redundant includes not usually seen in the galaxy files. =\ |
| 17:00.28 | Vail | with a few lings a queen and an overlord the toxic creep can destroy an ai base ... |
| 17:00.33 | Vail | weird |
| 17:02.01 | Vail | i was goofing off and i droped queen on the mineral line of an ai and where i was having an overlord produce creep.. i droped and defended a creep tumor untill it finished and let the creep eat away at the base.. then finished up the assimilators with lings and the queen |
| 17:05.45 | Vail | ooh i may make an item like this nascent creep tumors basicly its a creeptumor in a can of its own creep that you can drop down any where you need creep... |
| 17:06.44 | Vail | for a campaign likely |
| 17:07.12 | Vail | brb folks Lunch |
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| 18:02.40 | Vail | and i am returned |
| 18:03.21 | JademusSreg | I'm nearly done with my revisions for my galaxy dependency diagram. |
| 18:03.30 | Vail | nice |
| 18:03.38 | Vail | is it Strange? |
| 18:03.48 | Dresnia | http://www.next.co.uk/model-competition-2011/vote-for-me-idgek9j984/ |
| 18:03.50 | JademusSreg | Not especially. |
| 18:04.22 | Vail | i see |
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| 18:18.38 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/GalaxyStandardLibrary.jpg |
| 18:18.44 | JademusSreg | There we go. |
| 18:30.06 | Stewox | that's great |
| 18:30.10 | Stewox | linking explained |
| 18:30.25 | Stewox | i remember how i was having 10 windows open when i was modding gen zh |
| 18:30.28 | Stewox | those INIs |
| 18:31.24 | Stewox | atleast the names were coherent |
| 18:31.30 | Stewox | now these protos1 protos2 wtf |
| 18:31.33 | Stewox | confusing |
| 18:31.40 | JademusSreg | Difficulty levels. |
| 18:31.44 | Stewox | but maybe difficulty |
| 18:31.46 | Stewox | oh yeah |
| 18:31.48 | Stewox | ;) |
| 18:31.49 | JademusSreg | 0 is very easy, 5 is insane. |
| 18:31.51 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 18:32.13 | Stewox | oh that's only the AI |
| 18:32.24 | JademusSreg | It all galaxy. |
| 18:32.40 | JademusSreg | I considered doing data, but it's not a priority for me. |
| 18:33.01 | JademusSreg | Since I'm studying AI, I wanted a diagram to map the dependency structure. |
| 18:34.37 | Stewox | tacticalCamp AI ? |
| 18:34.44 | Stewox | CAMPer ? |
| 18:34.50 | JademusSreg | Tactical Campaign AI |
| 18:34.54 | Stewox | oh |
| 18:35.41 | Stewox | that's a good thing to have |
| 18:35.52 | Stewox | you know how much time that took in INIs |
| 18:36.02 | Stewox | experiments after experiments ... and training |
| 18:36.30 | Stewox | but what's differnet i was much younger back then and had more drive , more interest |
| 18:37.46 | Vail | Jade do you know how to write the ai files for units? |
| 18:39.02 | JademusSreg | That's in the tactical AI files. |
| 18:39.24 | JademusSreg | Though I suppose you could write a custom function to handle it from the map script. |
| 18:40.50 | Vail | hmm |
| 18:41.31 | JademusSreg | Individual units have AIThink functions, which in turn may call functions for individual abilities. |
| 18:41.50 | JademusSreg | The Queen for instance has 4 related functions. |
| 18:42.24 | JademusSreg | AIThinkQueen, which in turn calls Transfusion, CreeoTumor, and SpawnLarva. |
| 18:43.11 | Stewox | can you add more Think options ? |
| 18:43.21 | JademusSreg | I expect you can. |
| 18:43.41 | JademusSreg | But you should test it using custom functions declared in a map. |
| 18:43.52 | JademusSreg | I mean, eventually I'll get around to testing it. |
| 18:43.55 | Stewox | that would be kind of useless if you couldn't ... the point of galaxy |
| 18:44.06 | JademusSreg | I agree. |
| 18:44.09 | JademusSreg | That would suck. |
| 18:44.27 | Stewox | that means AI couldn't use any custom abilites |
| 18:44.34 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 18:44.45 | JademusSreg | But I doubt this is the case. |
| 18:44.52 | Stewox | lol ... now actually thinking the scope of it, that's huge. |
| 18:45.39 | JademusSreg | Here's an example of a function declaration: |
| 18:45.44 | JademusSreg | void AIThinkOverseer (int player, unit aiUnit, unitgroup scanGroup); |
| 18:46.37 | JademusSreg | int player is the owner, unit aiUnit is the unit obviously, and unitgroup scangroup is ... well, I'm not certain how the scangroup is derived. |
| 18:46.40 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 18:47.50 | Stewox | maybe there's a const that equals ground radius in which groups which have Think behavior are grouped by ai |
| 18:49.18 | JademusSreg | Scangroups are run through a filter for finding valid targets. |
| 18:49.35 | JademusSreg | So scangroups consist of both allied and enemy units presumably. |
| 18:49.39 | Stewox | so the word void is actually the same as if i modified the language and changed to "behavior" or "module" --- that's my high llow point of galaxy , it's too generic , it should be more custom like other gaming scripting languages are |
| 18:50.03 | Stewox | because im so confused by these event-stle words |
| 18:50.12 | Stewox | void doesn't make any sense at all :p |
| 18:50.18 | JademusSreg | void is a return type. |
| 18:50.22 | JademusSreg | It returns nothing. |
| 18:50.34 | Stewox | that's weird |
| 18:50.38 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 18:50.52 | Stewox | returns nothing |
| 18:51.08 | Stewox | yes but with what are we doing it has no sense |
| 18:51.22 | Stewox | you're clearly adding some stuff ... but then again this is not procedural and not xml :P |
| 18:51.31 | JademusSreg | Functions in C and C++ are written the same way; functions state their return type. |
| 18:52.08 | Stewox | im talking about scripting , not programming |
| 18:52.32 | Stewox | and galaxy is neither , it's a huge screwup if you ask me honestly no offence |
| 18:52.37 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:52.59 | Stewox | well i don't see what it is , it's not programming because it's way too light |
| 18:53.11 | JademusSreg | 1) Scripting is programming. 2) Why would I be offended? Not like the language is my child or soemthing. |
| 18:53.28 | JademusSreg | Hell, even GUI triggers are programming. |
| 18:53.48 | Stewox | triggers are always scripting |
| 18:53.51 | Stewox | never programming |
| 18:54.09 | Stewox | triggers with a capital T |
| 18:54.27 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka You are giving a system a set of instructions. It's programming. |
| 18:55.01 | Stewox | well |
| 18:55.02 | Stewox | bbl |
| 18:56.39 | Vail | the zerg bleed red right? |
| 18:56.46 | JademusSreg | Yes |
| 18:57.02 | JademusSreg | Unless you're watching GSL. =D |
| 18:57.58 | Vail | i was just wondering because i am thinking of zerg upgrades and i needed to decide on the likely carrior of gasses in their blood |
| 18:58.40 | JademusSreg | Yeah, presumably oxygen. |
| 19:00.21 | Vail | nod |
| 19:00.51 | Vail | but could be hemoglobin or possibly chlorocruorin ] |
| 19:01.43 | Vail | i am leaning toward hemoglobin becaus they are more conplex beings than worms ...but ... |
| 19:03.44 | JademusSreg | Well, with regards to oxygen-transport proteins, I'd expect them to use something slightly different, perhaps a more sophisticated protein than any terrestrial samples. |
| 19:04.20 | Vail | i would think they would have longer hemoglobin chains like those of tube worms |
| 19:06.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster UloseTheGame (d8b37f22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.179.127.34) |
| 19:06.16 | UloseTheGame | Hey peeps! |
| 19:06.21 | Vail | yo |
| 19:06.43 | UloseTheGame | or a video game idea |
| 19:06.44 | UloseTheGame | I came up with a map idea |
| 19:06.46 | UloseTheGame | The plot is |
| 19:06.54 | UloseTheGame | A giant crab steals your girlfriend |
| 19:07.24 | UloseTheGame | now, you have to go through 20 levels in a sonic esque playstyle game and retrieve her |
| 19:07.40 | UloseTheGame | the game would be titled Massive Damage |
| 19:07.40 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 19:07.52 | JademusSreg | Sounds like There's No Time To Explain. |
| 19:09.10 | UloseTheGame | I've never played There's No Time To Explain |
| 19:09.23 | JademusSreg | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XryQszFydSI |
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| 19:09.56 | UloseTheGame | Wait for this |
| 19:10.14 | Ashamed | erg computers |
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| 19:11.52 | JademusSreg | Nowai Ash. Erg in the Hyperion series were organisms that generated shields, no computers. |
| 19:13.41 | UloseTheGame | some bosses would include Rich Uncle Pennybags, Beyond Guy, Beezleboob and other lords of the lands you have to pass through to get to the crab but have no connection to it whatsoeevr |
| 19:14.10 | UloseTheGame | I dunno, im just coming with more pathetic shit as I go along |
| 19:14.16 | UloseTheGame | but I will refine it eventually |
| 19:14.24 | UloseTheGame | THIS I SWEAR |
| 19:14.31 | LordAbyss | lol |
| 19:14.38 | JademusSreg | This is an idea for a map? |
| 19:14.47 | JademusSreg | Sounds like a Newgrounds flashgame. |
| 19:15.16 | LordAbyss | my map is dependent on when PM finishes my heroes |
| 19:15.25 | LordAbyss | it has almost been a year since i started on the map |
| 19:15.27 | UloseTheGame | It should be an idea for a map |
| 19:15.34 | UloseTheGame | I think |
| 19:15.44 | UloseTheGame | i won't insult you by starting it before I finish my lotr map |
| 19:15.56 | UloseTheGame | or at least, not you, but your terrain |
| 19:15.59 | UloseTheGame | that shit is GOLD |
| 19:16.22 | UloseTheGame | Like holy crap jade terrain more often plox |
| 19:16.49 | UloseTheGame | Although I don't doubt newgrounds style maps would hurt any |
| 19:16.51 | JademusSreg | I make plenty of terrain. It's all on my harddrive. |
| 19:16.56 | UloseTheGame | lol |
| 19:17.00 | LordAbyss | is it normal to have this sense of overwhelming boredom as an intern |
| 19:17.00 | UloseTheGame | gimme some more :D |
| 19:17.35 | UloseTheGame | 8 hour day? likely |
| 19:17.43 | LordAbyss | yesterday was 10 hours |
| 19:17.49 | LordAbyss | i did nothing productive |
| 19:18.01 | LordAbyss | sat at my computer learning labview |
| 19:18.39 | JademusSreg | This is something I did before I purchased the game, but after beta: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/CityRuinTerrain.SC2Map |
| 19:19.29 | Vail | hmm would self sharpening claws go to augmentation or corruption... |
| 19:20.35 | JademusSreg | Former. |
| 19:22.07 | UloseTheGame | pix please |
| 19:22.34 | Jum-Jum | augmentation |
| 19:22.38 | Jum-Jum | everything is corrupt in games these days |
| 19:22.39 | Jum-Jum | getting old |
| 19:22.48 | UloseTheGame | Jade, so can you make me the terrain you would percieve for this "crab map"? |
| 19:22.56 | UloseTheGame | I think this would be a really hilarious idea |
| 19:22.56 | UloseTheGame | :D |
| 19:23.00 | JademusSreg | Haha, nope. |
| 19:23.18 | UloseTheGame | Fine, fine, i'll do it myself |
| 19:23.22 | UloseTheGame | i'm better when i can wing it |
| 19:23.27 | Vail | i thought so but it may be unballancing becaus long-chain hemoglobin increases movement and attack rates and SSC adds a buff that has a chance to encrease attack damage each attack a few times... |
| 19:23.31 | UloseTheGame | cause it's easier to pass off bad terrai |
| 19:23.33 | UloseTheGame | that way |
| 19:23.47 | UloseTheGame | Also i like to make it as i go |
| 19:24.05 | UloseTheGame | so it's hard for me to make good terrain all before doing everything else :( |
| 19:24.56 | UloseTheGame | What unit model in sc2 looks MOST LIKE a crab |
| 19:24.59 | UloseTheGame | i know it's a zerg |
| 19:25.04 | UloseTheGame | and i think it's the ultralisk |
| 19:25.09 | UloseTheGame | but i cant be sure |
| 19:25.14 | JademusSreg | Don't overthink it Vail, or you'll realize it's all augmentation. |
| 19:25.18 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:25.27 | Vail | yeah... |
| 19:25.41 | UloseTheGame | Okay |
| 19:25.44 | UloseTheGame | planning it out |
| 19:26.04 | UloseTheGame | Cinematic comes first...where giant crab takes girlfriend |
| 19:26.40 | UloseTheGame | Should I call the main character Horny Jordan? |
| 19:27.13 | UloseTheGame | So it implies why it's urgent he should get his girlfriend back? |
| 19:27.27 | Vail | tam rennroh as a joke... |
| 19:27.29 | UloseTheGame | Jordan Jumpoffacliff is the full name |
| 19:28.20 | UloseTheGame | So jordan goes it alone the first chapter |
| 19:28.25 | UloseTheGame | chapter one |
| 19:28.54 | UloseTheGame | Chapter one is not synonymous with part one |
| 19:29.04 | UloseTheGame | each part would be like...five chapters |
| 19:29.05 | Vail | either its a bad joke or no one got taM rennroH.... |
| 19:29.23 | UloseTheGame | I don't get taM rennroH |
| 19:29.28 | UloseTheGame | BECAUSE it's a bad joke |
| 19:29.46 | Vail | hah |
| 19:30.12 | Vail | Mat Hornner ....sigh |
| 19:32.25 | JademusSreg | Sophomoric humor is best paired with intimate insights into what it means to be human, dick jokes all the more enrinching when in the presence of that which best examines our beautiful and frail mortal condition and the vagaries of life in a captivating and apathetic cosmos. |
| 19:33.06 | JademusSreg | Take the series Californication for instance. |
| 19:33.54 | UloseTheGame | Californication....im taking it lol |
| 19:40.26 | UloseTheGame | i wanna be on streamster |
| 19:40.49 | UloseTheGame | Love castinf |
| 19:42.32 | UloseTheGame | I could do a segment on reviewing how techniques are used in custom games to make them' |
| 19:42.48 | UloseTheGame | you know, process analyzation' |
| 19:48.45 | Vail | i cant wait for HotS |
| 19:49.29 | Ashamed | woot :) figured out how to get units right next to doodads /cliffs for the 0.02 scale :) |
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| 19:51.21 | Ashamed | figured out how to get the unit right next to other units/doodads/clifss for 0.02 scale.. Gonna start working on mechanics soon i think |
| 19:53.57 | Ashamed | fine nobudy say thats awesome Ashamed Congrats |
| 19:54.38 | Ech0__ | nice Ashamed :) |
| 19:54.47 | Vail | sorry ashamed i would say Awesome if i understood what you ment |
| 19:55.29 | Ashamed | I created a world map for an rpg i am making |
| 19:55.35 | Nash|327 | lies |
| 19:55.36 | Ashamed | and i got the units down to 0.02 |
| 19:55.39 | Vail | ah |
| 19:55.45 | Ashamed | and with footpritns |
| 19:55.50 | Vail | Sweet. |
| 19:55.54 | Ashamed | with units that small they wouldn't be able to get right next to eachother |
| 19:55.56 | Ashamed | and i got it working |
| 19:55.57 | Ashamed | :) |
| 19:56.02 | Ashamed | so now you can go stand next to a cliff |
| 19:56.05 | Ashamed | not be 10 feet from it |
| 19:56.10 | Ech0__ | ah nice |
| 19:56.17 | Vail | uber Sweet |
| 19:56.57 | Ech0__ | Vail: any idea how represent a missile launch unit towards a point with an actor? |
| 19:57.34 | Vail | i think it depends on how you are assigning the point |
| 19:57.55 | Ashamed | echo you echo from sen? |
| 19:58.00 | Ech0__ | no |
| 19:58.06 | Ashamed | oh |
| 19:58.10 | Ashamed | just wondering |
| 19:58.18 | Ech0__ | Vail: with a simple set |
| 19:58.51 | Ech0__ | Ashamed: any clue? |
| 19:59.34 | Ashamed | :( no echo sorry |
| 19:59.40 | Ashamed | i am not so good with data >< |
| 19:59.42 | Ech0__ | no problem |
| 19:59.55 | Ashamed | unfortunatly i am going to have to start learning |
| 20:00.09 | Vail | what effect do you want to achieve Ech0? |
| 20:00.39 | Ech0__ | basically i want to have the unit quickly move from one place to another |
| 20:00.45 | Ech0__ | sort of like, 'shooting forward' |
| 20:00.57 | Vail | diffrent than Blink? |
| 20:01.02 | Ech0__ | yes |
| 20:01.07 | Vail | how so? |
| 20:01.21 | Ech0__ | similar to blink, except you see the unit 'shoot' towards that location |
| 20:01.27 | Ech0__ | that's why im using a missle with a mover |
| 20:01.44 | Ashamed | like a boost |
| 20:01.46 | Ech0__ | yup |
| 20:01.55 | Ashamed | i would look at mby blink and high templar |
| 20:01.57 | Ashamed | shadow effect |
| 20:02.08 | Vail | ah if you do not mind reading a tutorial there is a similar ability to that on sc2 mapster some where |
| 20:02.24 | Ech0__ | cool |
| 20:02.27 | Ashamed | there you go |
| 20:02.28 | Ech0__ | ill do some searching, thanks |
| 20:02.35 | Ashamed | :) you cant mind doing tutorial |
| 20:02.42 | Ashamed | or you like the wrong buisness >< |
| 20:02.55 | Ech0__ | lol |
| 20:03.01 | Ech0__ | im more of a docs person to be totally honest |
| 20:03.11 | Ashamed | same thing lol |
| 20:03.31 | JademusSreg | Editor is simple enough to not require tutorials. =D |
| 20:04.01 | Ech0__ | yeah i found that tutorial |
| 20:04.08 | Ech0__ | the test map is bugged |
| 20:04.17 | Ech0__ | probably due to a patch, which means this method is bugged |
| 20:04.49 | Ech0__ | =/ |
| 20:06.58 | Vail | was it this one? |
| 20:07.02 | Vail | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/12722-data-trigger-free-leap/ |
| 20:07.11 | Ashamed | jade i agree i got the trigger end of the editor in a snap |
| 20:07.16 | Ech0__ | yeah |
| 20:07.17 | Ashamed | but i think the data part requires some tutorials |
| 20:07.18 | Ech0__ | it was Vail |
| 20:07.21 | Vail | hm |
| 20:07.43 | Ech0__ | at the bottom, they state that patch 1.2 broke it |
| 20:08.49 | Vail | i am going to take a look at it and see if i can fix it |
| 20:09.31 | Ech0__ | <3 |
| 20:10.21 | Vail | seems ProzaicMuze may have beat me to it he seems to have already suggested the fix did you try it? |
| 20:12.28 | Dustin | Anyone know how to unset upgrade levels? |
| 20:12.41 | Dustin | I tried setting the upgrade to level 0 |
| 20:12.42 | Ech0__ | using force effects? ill look into that |
| 20:13.19 | Vail | hmm |
| 20:13.34 | JademusSreg | I just don't need em, I enjoy tinkering. |
| 20:14.56 | Vail | Dustin, have you tried adding a negative number to the upgrade you want to reduce or remove? |
| 20:15.08 | Dustin | I have not |
| 20:15.12 | Dustin | thats a good idea sir |
| 20:15.52 | Dustin | You'd think Tech Tree - Set Increased_Bomb_Range_1 upgrade level to 0 for player Player |
| 20:15.58 | Dustin | Would do the job =/ |
| 20:17.28 | Nash|327 | KitTUNS |
| 20:17.48 | Vail | yes but it may be a score thing not actually a data you know? |
| 20:18.11 | JademusSreg | void libNtve_gf_SetUpgradeLevelForPlayer (int lp_p, string lp_upgrade, int lp_levels) { |
| 20:18.11 | JademusSreg | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.12 | JademusSreg | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.25 | JademusSreg | That is the function used by the GUI action. |
| 20:18.51 | JademusSreg | (adjusted to reduce the number of lines) |
| 20:20.11 | JademusSreg | TechTreeUpgradeAddLevel is the (only) native for adjusting upgrade levels, so the only way to subtract levels is to give it a negative value. =D |
| 20:20.17 | Ech0__ | Vail: got my own data code working :) |
| 20:20.24 | Ech0__ | it was a simple issue with the missile |
| 20:20.29 | Vail | i see |
| 20:20.33 | Vail | thats good |
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| 20:20.44 | Ech0__ | im still new to the data editor, so i lose track of some of the fields :) |
| 20:20.57 | Dustin | Damnit that didnt work either |
| 20:20.58 | Vail | im not so new and i do as well |
| 20:21.57 | Vail | how are you testing to see if the upgrade is made reduced |
| 20:22.34 | Dustin | My bomb effect's size is adjusted by te upgrade |
| 20:22.45 | Dustin | And its suposed to reset each round |
| 20:24.38 | Vail | hmm |
| 20:26.08 | Dustin | The upgrade was pissing me off to |
| 20:26.27 | Dustin | Cause I just wanted 1 upgrade with 5 levels of Adding 2 to some periodic offsets |
| 20:26.32 | Dustin | But the damn thing doesnt work with Add |
| 20:26.43 | Dustin | So i had to make 5 upgrades each set |
| 20:26.51 | Nash|327 | USE RECORDS |
| 20:26.57 | Dustin | Doesnt apply with data |
| 20:27.09 | Nash|327 | FUCK THAT |
| 20:27.11 | Nash|327 | USE RECORDS |
| 20:27.17 | Dustin | Dude, doesnt apply. |
| 20:27.36 | Dustin | This nerd shure loves his records huh? |
| 20:28.09 | Nash|327 | YOU LOVE RECORDS |
| 20:28.11 | burne- | if you use records do you get map as awesome as fringe? |
| 20:28.14 | Nash|327 | USE THEM |
| 20:28.27 | Nash|327 | I don't use records. |
| 20:28.41 | Dustin | Burne, yes |
| 20:28.53 | Vail | it works for me Dustin... |
| 20:29.00 | Dustin | wtf |
| 20:29.11 | Vail | you said you had five upgrades... |
| 20:29.15 | Dustin | Is it one of those things where you cant use a variable for a player? |
| 20:29.19 | Nash|327 | USE RECORDS EVERY DAY |
| 20:29.26 | Dustin | Yeah and Im adding -1 to each of them |
| 20:29.54 | burne- | its time |
| 20:30.22 | Vail | not im not too good with the trigger editor ... i just added 1 to banshee cloaking and removed one from it and the cloak ability disabled |
| 20:30.28 | Vail | for player 1 |
| 20:31.08 | Dustin | let me try with static palyer number |
| 20:33.00 | Vail | dustin i think i may know what you will have to do if this turns out not to work..... |
| 20:33.20 | Dustin | Doesnt work |
| 20:34.15 | Vail | yeah you may have to create a hidden sixth upgrade to return the value to your default |
| 20:34.35 | Vail | before reenabling the upgrade buttons |
| 20:35.12 | Vail | i think the add and set are premanent changes to the values untill the map is closed |
| 20:35.23 | Vail | or a new upgrade is added |
| 20:35.25 | Dustin | Oh shit, so after I clear everything I give them an upgrade of the 6th one which is default, then I take the upgrade away |
| 20:36.12 | Vail | maybe |
| 20:36.22 | Vail | seems so silly though |
| 20:36.44 | Vail | but it looks like upgrades are accumulative like that |
| 20:37.46 | Dustin | Lets test this bitch |
| 20:39.07 | Dustin | Woot |
| 20:39.13 | Dustin | Ty sir, worked well |
| 20:39.22 | Vail | welcome. |
| 20:39.25 | Vail | i like to help |
| 20:40.59 | Vail | now just to tinker and optimize it but thats later i guess |
| 20:41.56 | Dustin | I really wish those adds on periodic offsets worked |
| 20:43.30 | Vail | ? |
| 20:45.20 | Dustin | On the upgrades |
| 20:45.34 | Dustin | I try to use the Add for Perodic offset changing |
| 20:45.38 | Dustin | And doesnt do anything |
| 20:48.11 | Nash|327 | Make a stackable Behavior which applies itself 4 times per second. |
| 20:48.18 | Nash|327 | Wait until SC2 explodes. |
| 20:48.38 | Vail | great the patch broke my ability |
| 20:48.41 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 20:50.55 | Vail | it was a previous patch and i never noticed the change because i never had the chance |
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| 21:06.55 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:07.06 | Ashamed | nash i want to watch sc2 expode! |
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| 21:08.10 | Vail | later folks im out |
| 21:10.27 | Nash|327 | DO IT! |
| 21:10.32 | Ashamed | DOOOOOOOO IT |
| 21:10.38 | Ashamed | we should make a map that is really fun |
| 21:10.44 | Ashamed | but crashes 5-10 minutes everytime |
| 21:10.44 | Ashamed | >< |
| 21:10.56 | Ashamed | you guys remeber the dont look at the dot |
| 21:10.57 | Ashamed | for sc? |
| 21:11.05 | JademusSreg | No. |
| 21:11.44 | Ashamed | oh |
| 21:11.47 | Ashamed | it would crash your sc |
| 21:11.48 | Ashamed | when you did |
| 21:11.51 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:12.35 | Nash|327 | I remember Hello Desktop |
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| 21:13.47 | Ashamed | same theory i am guessing |
| 21:14.05 | Ashamed | we should make a map like that |
| 21:14.09 | Ashamed | just to prove how shitty their pop system is |
| 21:14.35 | Ashamed | map that crashes your sc2 -.- the most popular |
| 21:14.57 | Nash|327 | Hello Desktop crashed your game at start. |
| 21:18.17 | Ashamed | yall being boring |
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| 21:18.25 | Ashamed | lets aurgue about something |
| 21:19.06 | JademusSreg | Good luck. |
| 21:22.24 | Nash|327 | Kittuns in bags or boxes? |
| 21:22.28 | Nash|327 | Discuss. |
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| 21:35.02 | Ashamed | i think bags is always better |
| 21:35.11 | Ashamed | a bag if kittuns is so much more welcoming then a box |
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| 21:45.00 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 21:45.17 | Nash|327 | Bags can be scratched apart from the inside too. |
| 21:45.29 | Nash|327 | Stick out paws through holes, attack people. |
| 21:46.08 | Nash|327 | omg kittun |
| 21:54.18 | Mexa | http://lulzsecurity.com/releases/ ... lame. |
| 21:54.36 | Nash|327 | As lame as your usual links? |
| 21:54.38 | Nash|327 | D:~~ |
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| 22:02.02 | Ashamed | you know what i hate |
| 22:02.13 | Ashamed | i hate it when IE temp files messes something else up |
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| 22:02.48 | Nash|327 | IE... |
| 22:02.54 | Nash|327 | IE!? |
| 22:03.10 | Nash|327 | the hell's wrong with you D: |
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| 22:20.00 | Dresnia | I am what you've created, so stop blaiming me :( |
| 22:21.49 | Stewox | LOL |
| 22:21.51 | Stewox | mexa |
| 22:22.02 | Stewox | i heard sownage was going on like hours ago |
| 22:22.10 | Stewox | they already have full releases |
| 22:22.12 | Stewox | lmao |
| 22:22.14 | Stewox | own |
| 22:22.43 | Mexa | I saw that |
| 22:23.01 | Stewox | but i really don't know what's Lulzsec motive anyways ... sony is evil ? |
| 22:23.03 | Stewox | or what ... |
| 22:23.13 | Stewox | because Anonymous has genuine motives/ideals |
| 22:23.14 | Mexa | I guess, because they can |
| 22:23.35 | Mexa | Both are stupid. They for SQL injecting and sony for saving passwords in plaintext |
| 22:23.37 | Mexa | Seriously. |
| 22:24.03 | Mexa | But that Sony did not have something simple like anti-injection protection.. |
| 22:24.37 | Ashamed | mexa you know why :) |
| 22:24.42 | Ashamed | its because they thought there shit was un haxable |
| 22:24.49 | Ashamed | so they didnt put simple protection in |
| 22:25.14 | Mexa | eh, common sense knows that any website should have protection against sql-inj |
| 22:25.16 | Ashamed | once tyhe guy hacked teh console it read it as a dev console |
| 22:25.23 | Ashamed | oh the ohte rone |
| 22:26.57 | Mexa | Pathetic that LulzSec is asking for donations to keep on going |
| 22:27.02 | Mexa | .. |
| 22:28.03 | Ashamed | mexa i think this is a differnt issue then waht i was talkinga bout |
| 22:28.08 | Ashamed | sony got haxed agian <>< |
| 22:28.30 | Mexa | what I linked what was they hacked |
| 22:28.46 | Mexa | There is no evidence that PSN has been hacked again |
| 22:31.06 | Ashamed | i cant believe they have been hacked again |
| 22:31.10 | Ashamed | sony needs to just shut down |
| 22:31.10 | Ashamed | lol |
| 22:31.17 | Mexa | what? |
| 22:31.31 | Mexa | Now, I'm not a sonyfan or anything, I don't even have a ps3 |
| 22:31.46 | Mexa | But why, seriously? |
| 22:31.58 | Mexa | Just leave that multicorporal business alone .__ |
| 22:32.08 | Mexa | *company |
| 22:33.31 | Dresnia | The reason Sony got hacked |
| 22:33.36 | Mexa | But I can imagine they will be thorn down and cease to exist if it continues in this phase. |
| 22:33.42 | Dresnia | Is causse the CEO thought, there wasn't any money to be stolen |
| 22:33.45 | Dresnia | So why would they hack it |
| 22:33.57 | Dresnia | That's the reason he said on an intervieuw |
| 22:34.26 | Dresnia | < Sony HD+Surround+PS3+Stereo |
| 22:34.27 | Dresnia | : > |
| 22:34.31 | Ashamed | yeah sony has lost so much money |
| 22:34.34 | Ashamed | the last 8 years |
| 22:34.38 | Mexa | So, as much as he said that, Gabe Nevel also invite anyone to hack steam now that it is under protection of the steam guard |
| 22:34.45 | Mexa | *invited |
| 22:35.00 | Dresnia | If it's manmade, it can be broken by man |
| 22:35.02 | Dresnia | Period |
| 22:36.01 | Mexa | When you can find the security hole of steam where you allow other ip adresses and computers any other than the one registred, let me know |
| 22:36.50 | Mexa | Gabe Nevel said live his account name and password, as of several months ago |
| 22:37.09 | Mexa | So far, nothing though, but yeah sure, at sometime in the future I guess |
| 22:38.01 | Mexa | Also Dres, point being, because it is manmade, why the fuck do you have to exploit it? |
| 22:38.15 | Mexa | *just |
| 22:41.54 | Stewox | mexa |
| 22:41.57 | Stewox | now i see |
| 22:42.05 | Stewox | they're trolling the security business |
| 22:42.25 | Stewox | because the cyber security companies brag so much about their "advanced" stuff and make profits |
| 22:42.39 | Stewox | for example , they make a flase buzz that airports nneed security |
| 22:42.59 | Stewox | the company that makes air port scanners is just making a load of cash off the scare |
| 22:43.09 | Stewox | while those scanners are underperorming in reality |
| 22:44.00 | Mexa | hmpf |
| 22:44.03 | Stewox | now lulzsec is exposing how some of the biggest sites have super weak security .... while they brag how is everythign super secure with bla bla 3 external companies and crap ... "oh credit card is so secure" |
| 22:44.41 | Stewox | and lulzsec is just making fun of them, because they released , you know ... sony didn't even hash , nor encrypt password , come on ... plain text , im laughing |
| 22:45.05 | Stewox | so i guess that's the point of lulzsec |
| 22:45.19 | Stewox | but any avreage ignorant will obviosuly look at them as criminals |
| 22:46.23 | Nash|327 | Well they ARE criminals. |
| 22:46.57 | Dresnia | (not responding) |
| 22:47.00 | Dresnia | DONT CRASH ON ME |
| 22:47.07 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 22:47.13 | Dresnia | stupid editor |
| 22:47.15 | Dresnia | ugh. |
| 22:49.10 | Stewox | Our goal here is not to come across as master hackers, hence what we're about |
| 22:49.12 | Stewox | to reveal: SonyPictures.com was owned by a very simple SQL injection, one of |
| 22:49.13 | Stewox | the most primitive and common vulnerabilities, as we should all know by now. |
| 22:49.15 | Stewox | From a single injection, we accessed EVERYTHING. Why do you put such faith in |
| 22:49.17 | Stewox | a company that allows itself to become open to these simple attacks? |
| 22:49.18 | Stewox | What's worse is that every bit of data we took wasn't encrypted. Sony stored |
| 22:49.20 | Stewox | over 1,000,000 passwords of its customers in plaintext, which means it's just |
| 22:49.21 | Stewox | a matter of taking it. This is disgraceful and insecure: they were asking for it. |
| 22:51.48 | JademusSreg | Mexa, any streams planned today? |
| 22:52.28 | Dresnia | Nash|327 check screen |
| 22:52.34 | Dresnia | and stop msn crashing or whateva |
| 22:53.45 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 22:53.59 | Nash|327 | OCTAGON? |
| 22:55.30 | Mexa | Jademus, http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/IGNProLeague |
| 22:55.41 | Dresnia | octa wha |
| 22:55.50 | Nash|327 | NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN NEIN! |
| 22:55.59 | Nash|327 | It's an octagon. |
| 22:56.00 | Nash|327 | D: |
| 22:56.09 | Mexa | And also NASL in 1½hour Jade. |
| 22:56.12 | Dresnia | it's a diagonal steam :O |
| 22:56.18 | Dresnia | stream |
| 22:56.22 | Dresnia | these bridges are.. meh |
| 22:56.24 | Nash|327 | it's not a stream D: |
| 22:56.31 | Nash|327 | it's a stop sign |
| 22:56.32 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 22:56.39 | Dresnia | well then I got no fucking clue what you want lol |
| 22:56.41 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 22:56.57 | Nash|327 | something more natural |
| 22:57.10 | Dresnia | ye but do you want it like this |
| 22:57.11 | JademusSreg | Nash, on what kind of terrain do you have Dres working? |
| 22:57.13 | Dresnia | 2 bridge/island |
| 22:57.32 | Dresnia | we got a 2man project Nash |
| 22:57.40 | Mexa | Stewox, I am also sure that "Sony" as a multidivided company does not handle security with only one apartment |
| 22:57.41 | Dresnia | I'm not working for anyone :P |
| 22:57.52 | Mexa | But several apartments exists for the different sites |
| 22:58.08 | Mexa | So really, that's not Sony globally |
| 22:58.14 | Nash|327 | yeah just add lava flowing top right and bottom left |
| 22:58.22 | Stewox | it's the same company that runs PSN and sells PS3 |
| 22:58.34 | Dresnia | yer |
| 22:58.40 | Dresnia | but the bridge/island placement |
| 22:58.49 | Dresnia | is what you like rite |
| 22:58.52 | Nash|327 | yarp |
| 22:59.00 | Dresnia | the rest is just 'for now' ;p |
| 22:59.06 | Mexa | I did never said it wasn't |
| 22:59.11 | Dresnia | I don't make a square box and say 'thats natural' :( |
| 22:59.23 | Nash|327 | OCTAGON! |
| 22:59.35 | JademusSreg | Screenshots? |
| 22:59.43 | Mexa | I'm just saying that whatever the CEO says, he have probably no supervising by himself on all department |
| 22:59.58 | Dresnia | JademusSreg it's for the hero survival ? |
| 23:00.02 | Stewox | well that's their problem |
| 23:00.06 | Stewox | it's about lulz |
| 23:00.12 | Dresnia | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/21591-untitled-hero-survival-arena-showcase-requesting-feedback/ |
| 23:00.13 | Stewox | laughing at their security |
| 23:00.22 | Dresnia | http://imgur.com/a/HFt5y#YqSyw |
| 23:00.38 | Dresnia | some cool UI screens etc in thread too from Nash |
| 23:01.14 | Stewox | while the company says how good it's doing in it's securty ... it's all for making up public image good , and that's the best way to destroy an image ... this is a fraction lulzsec actually released from what read |
| 23:01.43 | Nash|327 | Jade has seen mah UI |
| 23:01.49 | Nash|327 | he hates the texture |
| 23:01.53 | Nash|327 | D:< |
| 23:02.01 | Dresnia | then lets throw a rock at him |
| 23:02.04 | Dresnia | in tha faaace |
| 23:02.05 | Dresnia | :( |
| 23:02.13 | JademusSreg | Good luck with that. |
| 23:02.18 | Nash|327 | Agreed. |
| 23:02.26 | Nash|327 | casts the first stone. |
| 23:04.23 | JademusSreg | Using default textures is fine for a prototype, but a release version deserves more love than that. |
| 23:05.05 | Nash|327 | And if you don't have textures to use? |
| 23:05.05 | Dresnia | casts another stone !!! |
| 23:05.09 | Mexa | Stewox, I would be fine with white hackers, but black hackers just doing it "for the luls" is fucking rediculous. |
| 23:05.14 | Mexa | They help nobody |
| 23:05.41 | Nash|327 | RACIST! |
| 23:05.48 | Griffenator | Sony does not do security. |
| 23:05.50 | Mexa | They're called that. |
| 23:05.53 | Nash|327 | If white people do it it's okay? |
| 23:06.01 | Nash|327 | That's fucking racist D: |
| 23:06.08 | Griffenator | They even brought up their account recovery site with a fucking URL exploit in it. |
| 23:06.13 | Mexa | there's gray hats too you know. |
| 23:06.19 | Dresnia | Oh btw I saw the new X men movie last night |
| 23:06.27 | Stewox | well that's up to them to justify the reasons mexa :p |
| 23:06.36 | Griffenator | I suspect hacking Sony was like taking candy from a baby relative to the payoff |
| 23:06.54 | Mexa | Considering it was a simple SQLi, yes. |
| 23:07.03 | Stewox | those guys are relatively new |
| 23:07.15 | Stewox | so ... they're not as ... organized yet |
| 23:07.45 | Mexa | I'm allergic to their bullshit twitter. They are the best people in the world judging by it. |
| 23:07.57 | JademusSreg | Make custom textures in photoshop or GIMP if desperate. = |
| 23:08.00 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 23:08.15 | Stewox | anonymous is exiting 5 years and it's only now showing it's true ideals and getting organized ... having a spokesperson , anonymous appeared on TV so many times , AL Jazeera English and Russa Today many times |
| 23:08.21 | Dresnia | Or just use standard causse it doesn't matter much :P |
| 23:08.33 | JademusSreg | Sure it does. |
| 23:08.36 | JademusSreg | Polish matters. |
| 23:08.57 | Mexa | Stewox, Anonymous organized? Lol, they're far from organized |
| 23:09.06 | Mexa | Especially after the claims of them hacking PSN |
| 23:09.08 | Stewox | anyways mexa ... for teh lulz is not the way to go either |
| 23:09.10 | Dresnia | JademusSreg : make us some then :P |
| 23:09.21 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 23:09.36 | Mexa | They have a dispute internally. They really don't know what all people in the group are doing, so it seems. |
| 23:10.07 | Stewox | because companies would blame everybody for "motiveless attack" ... companies are so tricky and they'll find an excuse and they turn their responses .. |
| 23:10.12 | Stewox | mexa |
| 23:10.14 | Stewox | i know them |
| 23:10.19 | Stewox | there wasn't a dispute |
| 23:10.23 | Mexa | I'm sure you do. |
| 23:10.39 | Dresnia | nash |
| 23:10.47 | Nash|327 | kittunbaggery |
| 23:10.49 | Dresnia | tbh I'm gna drop this bridge idea |
| 23:10.56 | Dresnia | it's just too stupid |
| 23:11.02 | JademusSreg | What's wrong with a bridge? |
| 23:11.15 | Dresnia | they look rather squary :p |
| 23:11.29 | JademusSreg | Then use something else as a bridge. |
| 23:11.29 | Nash|327 | they're bridges |
| 23:11.31 | Nash|327 | D; |
| 23:11.40 | JademusSreg | Use Haven Debris. |
| 23:11.43 | Dresnia | I never seen a square bridge over lava |
| 23:12.11 | Stewox | there was a 16 year old irc operator that was an idiot who surely wasn't aware of what the heck he was dealing with , anonymous is good and he exposed them for no reason , it's ryan cleary from UK , he's an asshole , and he was a mere IRC operator ... which is just making sure iRC is working, no staff or anything |
| 23:12.38 | Dresnia | I'll show what I want tommorow Nash ;p |
| 23:12.42 | Dresnia | too tired / cba now |
| 23:12.55 | Stewox | they got it totally wrong mexa .... even anonymous didn't knew it them self |
| 23:12.56 | Nash|327 | You're not entitled to have opinions D:< |
| 23:12.57 | Mexa | I'm not talking about Ryan Asshole from UK |
| 23:13.06 | Mexa | I don't fucking know who it is, and I donät care |
| 23:13.08 | Dresnia | lol |
| 23:13.11 | Dresnia | you wish :p |
| 23:13.21 | Stewox | what the heck are you talking about |
| 23:13.22 | Nash|327 | zug zug, back to work |
| 23:13.25 | Stewox | if you don't know who he is |
| 23:13.26 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 23:13.34 | Stewox | then what are you talking shit you have no idea about |
| 23:13.37 | Nash|327 | are you making a video btw? |
| 23:13.41 | Stewox | what dispute |
| 23:13.48 | Dresnia | God, Stewox who the fuck are you |
| 23:13.48 | Stewox | you heard that on media site |
| 23:13.50 | Nash|327 | We got all melee classes mostly done. |
| 23:13.53 | Dresnia | To discuss in this chat 15hours a day |
| 23:13.55 | Dresnia | Jebus |
| 23:14.01 | Nash|327 | Need some more anim stuff. |
| 23:14.04 | Stewox | nobody asked you nothing |
| 23:14.08 | Dresnia | Masturbate more often so you relax more |
| 23:14.18 | Nash|327 | Stewox is the channel Big Brother. |
| 23:14.25 | Dresnia | He's a douche imo |
| 23:14.28 | Dresnia | I dislike him |
| 23:14.34 | Nash|327 | He will make your computer better whether you like it or not! |
| 23:14.39 | Dresnia | rofl |
| 23:14.49 | Mexa | Dispute might have been too harsh then. But there are members in the anonymous group who apparantly do stuff in the name of anonymous, without the "leaders" whoever that would be, have any clue. |
| 23:15.01 | Nash|327 | Just give him info and install the programs he tells you to. |
| 23:15.12 | Nash|327 | Or he will pester you for hours. |
| 23:15.20 | Mexa | I'm going to eat my breakfast now, and have some coffee. |
| 23:15.29 | Dresnia | eeer Mexa |
| 23:15.33 | Dresnia | aint you swe ? |
| 23:15.40 | Mexa | Yes, it's 1.15 AM |
| 23:15.43 | Dresnia | Dito |
| 23:15.46 | Stewox | do you watch Russia Today and AJE every day to find all those shows about anonymous ... ? do you watch news anywhere else but the bbc,fox, cnn , you name it ... |
| 23:15.48 | Dresnia | So it's a 'past midnight' joke |
| 23:15.56 | Dresnia | Or you biological clock is messy ? :p |
| 23:16.17 | Nash|327 | Mexaface never sleeps. |
| 23:16.17 | Mexa | No, they all sound like bullshit to me |
| 23:16.29 | Stewox | because inside everyone knows whats going on ... it just depends on what others hear and where ... and people still follow whatever they hear on a stupid TV channel |
| 23:16.33 | Dresnia | God sake Anonymous is just a term of doing stuff without taking credit |
| 23:16.40 | Dresnia | Anonymous is everyone |
| 23:16.56 | Mexa | Stewox, [01:16] <Mexa> No, they all sound like bullshit to me |
| 23:17.00 | Stewox | idk but you have no idea , stop making up stupid comments mexa , |
| 23:17.08 | Dresnia | There's a few hardcore fanboys who tend too take credit as anonymous |
| 23:17.10 | Stewox | get a read on what they do , then comment on it |
| 23:17.12 | Mexa | Stop being stupid :G |
| 23:17.16 | Nash|327 | Anonymous is a bunch of 4channers with no real affiliation or organization. |
| 23:17.27 | Stewox | if you don't know what it's about why are you commenting it ? |
| 23:17.38 | Nash|327 | Regarding them as "a group that does stuff" is stupid. |
| 23:17.40 | Stewox | waging discussion on false pretense is bad |
| 23:17.45 | Mexa | Stewox, why the fuck would I watch BBC, FOX, CNN, which is the most overexaggerated media ever? |
| 23:17.52 | Mexa | In particular FOX |
| 23:17.57 | Dresnia | You really the type that never goes out cuz he keeps getting home with a bleeding nose from a punch in the face aint you |
| 23:18.32 | Stewox | well yes ... but why did you came with a silly idea that anonymous had an internal dispute ... it was RYAN , that's what im telling you , and you give me a BS response |
| 23:18.34 | Mexa | DRes, yeah my biological clock is messy |
| 23:18.44 | Dresnia | aah good times :p |
| 23:18.49 | Mexa | Fuck, can't you read? |
| 23:18.50 | Dresnia | Nash|327 : nah no video I think |
| 23:18.57 | Nash|327 | He can fill the chat with pestering people about hardware but if you say kittuns he goes bananas D_D |
| 23:19.06 | Mexa | [01:14] <Mexa> Dispute might have been too harsh then. |
| 23:19.18 | Stewox | you said you don't care about who the fuck he is ... response to my explanation about ryan |
| 23:19.34 | Mexa | IM NOT TALKING ABOUT RYAN GOD DAMMIT |
| 23:19.39 | Dresnia | All we care about is you shutting the fuck up atm |
| 23:19.49 | Mexa | I'm dropping it now. |
| 23:19.52 | Mexa | POintless |
| 23:19.54 | Stewox | why NOT |
| 23:19.59 | JademusSreg | I think we can all agree "Ryan Goddamnit" is a great name. |
| 23:19.59 | Dresnia | So is this guy on the stream :O |
| 23:20.02 | Stewox | if you're talking about dispute , it is ryan |
| 23:20.03 | Dresnia | Dropping like a clown |
| 23:21.01 | Stewox | anonymous had no disputes , they always have issues and DISCUSIONS , which are almost at all people voting for what is the most correct option and these ramblings which happen often get reported in such an BIG drama way by the media |
| 23:21.20 | Dresnia | funny that you use the term drama |
| 23:21.27 | Stewox | got it ... the dispute was a normal day for IRC operators , it just got a bit out of control, and the 16 year old noob was the blame , |
| 23:21.39 | Nash|327 | How long will he go on if nobody replies? |
| 23:21.43 | Nash|327 | Now taking bets! |
| 23:21.53 | Stewox | the fact they reported it as "disputee/splinter group" ... is because nobody had idea what was going on |
| 23:22.13 | Stewox | at the time |
| 23:22.24 | Dresnia | Hey Stewox you should go talk too http://cleverbot.com/ about it |
| 23:22.28 | Stewox | ryan got kicked out , as well as 3 other fellows , show's over |
| 23:22.36 | Stewox | mexa made me talk :p |
| 23:22.43 | Dresnia | talk ? |
| 23:22.46 | Mexa | Why are you still going on? I said: Dispute might be too harsh then. |
| 23:22.53 | Dresnia | I'm on smallband soon if you keep going on all the time ! |
| 23:22.54 | Mexa | So again: Dispute was the wrong word |
| 23:22.58 | Mexa | Now bugger off -.- |
| 23:23.14 | Stewox | Dispute is something the media reported that is why i explained it .. it does have nothing to do with you being wrong |
| 23:23.25 | Stewox | that's why im explaining , so you know |
| 23:23.46 | Mexa | what? |
| 23:23.48 | Mexa | Media? |
| 23:23.53 | Stewox | because there was no other disputes as "large" as this , which in reality wasn't a dispute |
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| 23:24.06 | Mexa | A dispute is a fucking quarrel, discussion or problem,. |
| 23:24.10 | Mexa | skip problem |
| 23:24.22 | Mexa | I'm not talking about media... |
| 23:24.34 | JademusSreg | I wonder if my next map should be melee or survival. |
| 23:24.49 | Dresnia | What about your 'idea' you told me before ? |
| 23:24.58 | JademusSreg | Which one? |
| 23:25.08 | Dresnia | the 'caster' one |
| 23:25.14 | Stewox | IRC operators were rambling and one 16 noob just did coupdeat for no reason , the story got over-dramatized , ryan took the media to his advantage and just spew shit so he got attention on how good he is or what , something like that |
| 23:25.20 | JademusSreg | Oh yes. Not gonna work on that yet. |
| 23:25.20 | Mexa | I |
| 23:25.21 | Mexa | DO |
| 23:25.22 | Mexa | NOT |
| 23:25.23 | Mexa | TALK |
| 23:25.25 | Mexa | ABOUT |
| 23:25.27 | Mexa | FUCKING |
| 23:25.30 | Mexa | RYAN ASSHOLE |
| 23:25.36 | Dresnia | umadbro ? |
| 23:25.38 | Stewox | do you know about him ? |
| 23:25.43 | Mexa | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 23:25.55 | Mexa | And I don't care about him. |
| 23:25.58 | Stewox | then you have no idea to even speak about anonymous |
| 23:26.04 | Stewox | or have opinions |
| 23:26.19 | Mexa | Yeah who gives a shit about both mine or yours opinions anyways. |
| 23:26.22 | Mexa | See you. |
| 23:26.26 | Stewox | neither i can have opinion on something i don't know about ... like washing machines , idk what's better what's worse |
| 23:26.29 | Dresnia | Mexa |
| 23:26.37 | Dresnia | enjoy the breakfast ;> |
| 23:27.03 | Stewox | because mexa , you're putting out opinions on a subject you didn't thorougly examine, this is the point |
| 23:27.25 | Mexa | I'd love to know your sources already? If they are valid? Are you hanging around the anonymous irc often? |
| 23:27.28 | Dresnia | your on the bloody internet talking to a stranger in a editor chat channel |
| 23:27.30 | Mexa | No wait |
| 23:27.30 | Dresnia | dear god |
| 23:27.32 | Mexa | I don't know |
| 23:27.33 | JademusSreg | The battlemage idea is still close to my heart, but the are some problems I haven't yet resolved in a satisfying way. |
| 23:27.35 | Mexa | I don't care |
| 23:27.39 | Mexa | So fuck this. |
| 23:27.41 | JademusSreg | *there are |
| 23:27.44 | Stewox | i don't have sources mexa , im the anonymous |
| 23:27.46 | Dresnia | Go on Jade |
| 23:28.12 | Mexa | Aren't we all. |
| 23:28.53 | Stewox | yeah but i was an room operator several times ... knew all the details about what was happening |
| 23:29.02 | Stewox | IRC room (channel) |
| 23:29.12 | JademusSreg | Well, the main issue I have is dynamic handling of input & potentially unmanagable complexity vs static handling of input & the unpleasant consequence of ineffective input. |
| 23:29.31 | Dresnia | stream laggy now :( |
| 23:30.19 | Dresnia | Jade I mean, battlemage |
| 23:30.21 | Dresnia | what would it be like |
| 23:31.31 | JademusSreg | Oh, there would be a frame for mouse-based input on some part of the screen, you'd select colors correpsonding to types/sources of magic, and draw designs to cast spells. |
| 23:31.52 | Stewox | mexa , you don't need to go dig up all this , waste of time , just ask me if you dont' know something , but the best thing you can do is simply not to belive most of the media ... http://english.aljazeera.net/ www.rt.com www.democracynow.com ... those are one of the rare sites you can actually trust ... |
| 23:31.59 | JademusSreg | Basically, what RPGs players wanted to do with the DS but never saw it materialize in a cool way. |
| 23:32.01 | Stewox | now get to bet i sense you're sleepy , that's not good |
| 23:32.21 | Mexa | I'd rather not ask you, seriously -.- |
| 23:32.34 | Dresnia | Stewox I got pc issues |
| 23:32.35 | Dresnia | help me |
| 23:32.39 | Stewox | well that's you're ignorancy at play :p |
| 23:32.49 | Dresnia | I see JademusSreg |
| 23:32.56 | Dresnia | A bit like MAgicka magic ? |
| 23:33.01 | Dresnia | I mean 'combining' |
| 23:33.01 | Stewox | why would i be spewing shit around , im telling you the real deal , accept or leave |
| 23:33.18 | Nash|327 | ACCEPT OR LEAVE |
| 23:33.30 | Nash|327 | Stewox hath spoken. |
| 23:33.40 | Dresnia | Nash|327 : why aint u on msn |
| 23:33.45 | JademusSreg | Not quite Dres. |
| 23:33.49 | Mexa | because it's shit |
| 23:33.55 | Mexa | o_o |
| 23:33.57 | Dresnia | well I'm not on MSN either |
| 23:34.17 | JademusSreg | It would still feature the basic RTS mechanics, especially if you cast spells to summon units. |
| 23:34.18 | Dresnia | or well I'm not using the client or whatever |
| 23:34.43 | Nash|327 | You're not on MSN. |
| 23:34.47 | Dresnia | JademusSreg it sounds awesome to create etc, but keep in mind, bnet doesn't like complex stuff |
| 23:34.51 | JademusSreg | It's more like drawing runes, but not from a predetermined set (in the case of dynamic handling of input). |
| 23:35.00 | JademusSreg | Bnet is not the issue. |
| 23:35.08 | Dresnia | I mean the playerbase |
| 23:35.16 | Mexa | Since the majority of my contacts have a msn virus which they automatically attempt to spam to me, I stopped using msn. |
| 23:35.25 | JademusSreg | I could give a shit less aobut what people want to play. I make maps I like to play. |
| 23:35.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Vail (kvirc@75.108.239.227) |
| 23:35.36 | Griffenator | People == Jademus |
| 23:35.41 | Griffenator | Ergo you care about what people want to play |
| 23:35.43 | Griffenator | Night guys |
| 23:35.43 | JademusSreg | Dun dun dun |
| 23:35.47 | Vail | hello folks |
| 23:35.55 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 23:36.01 | Dresnia | hey |
| 23:37.32 | Vail | had a nap and dinner and now im bacl full throtle |
| 23:38.14 | Mexa | Stewox, the only good thing I have seen Anonymous do is when they helped Dusty the Cat |
| 23:38.28 | JademusSreg | Precisely the mechanic that would make it fun for me to play is what makes it a challenge to design. |
| 23:39.02 | Mexa | Nothin.. more. Reading from Aljazeera I don't believe that "they hack for the greater good" |
| 23:39.19 | Stewox | stop trolling mexa , you have no idea or you don't want to know, this is subjective and if you read about ideals you wouldn't have such a view |
| 23:39.44 | Stewox | and go to sleep, every day you're complaining how you stay late and stuff |
| 23:40.00 | Mexa | Maybe you should go to bed |
| 23:40.03 | Stewox | they do hack for the greater good |
| 23:40.06 | Mexa | I woke up an hour ago |
| 23:40.16 | Stewox | it's 1AM idiot |
| 23:40.21 | Mexa | Yeah, "in greater good" by whose definition |
| 23:40.23 | Stewox | you have your times screwed up |
| 23:40.24 | Mexa | Yes, iditot |
| 23:40.29 | Mexa | *idiot |
| 23:40.35 | Dresnia | it's 1.40am even douchebag |
| 23:40.37 | Mexa | I woke up an hour ago |
| 23:40.43 | Mexa | Maybe you should go to bed |
| 23:41.21 | Stewox | what the heck are you about |
| 23:41.29 | Stewox | anybody asked you again something ? |
| 23:41.49 | Dresnia | nice sentence |
| 23:42.41 | *** join/#sc2mapster Brainshack (~Christian@dslb-178-009-050-202.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:42.47 | Stewox | 1:40 does it matter |
| 23:43.17 | Dresnia | yes causse 0.40 would be closer to 1am then 1.40 so if you wanna say it like in hours, it's actually 2am |
| 23:44.37 | Stewox | my point was |
| 23:44.44 | Stewox | he woke up at 1 AM |
| 23:44.48 | Stewox | he's in EU |
| 23:44.55 | Stewox | that means he has the same time as me |
| 23:45.01 | Stewox | and im about to go to sleep |
| 23:45.02 | Dresnia | you know who ryan is ? |
| 23:45.07 | Dresnia | then why you discuss this ? |
| 23:45.09 | Stewox | so who has a screwed up schedule |
| 23:45.25 | Stewox | he's too sleepy to think to answer me right , let alone understand the ideals of anonymous |
| 23:45.30 | Dresnia | you both do |
| 23:45.31 | Mexa | And is why you are tired, and I am not. |
| 23:45.41 | Dresnia | no one should wake up or go sleep at 1/2am |
| 23:45.44 | Dresnia | on a weekday |
| 23:45.48 | Brainshack | pinky you just woke up? |
| 23:45.54 | Mexa | Dres, it's exam periods |
| 23:46.13 | Brainshack | Dresnia: happens from time to time^^ |
| 23:46.15 | Mexa | I have 5 days not really constrained to classes |
| 23:46.20 | Mexa | But to studies. |
| 23:46.31 | Vail | .....we all have Corrupted schedules as The Great Mistress demands we toil that she may once more rule the swarm] |
| 23:47.09 | Stewox | what is wrong here mexa it's this |
| 23:47.10 | Mexa | By the looks of it, I woke up 2 hours ago. |
| 23:47.36 | Stewox | if you don't care about something ... you don't care , so you don't put out some comments whithout any evaluation (generaly peaking) |
| 23:48.00 | Stewox | now , if someone cares , he knows all about it , the opinion is according |
| 23:48.22 | Mexa | I don't belive for shit that your opinion is neutral. |
| 23:48.30 | Nash|327 | blah blah |
| 23:48.39 | Stewox | but if you ... know a little , and don't care , and post silly opinions on incomplete and misleading information , then you become a troll |
| 23:48.39 | Dresnia | Stewox : seriously, are you trolling or you got no braincell in your head noticing when people dislike you going on about useless shit for hours ? |
| 23:48.41 | Nash|327 | Do something useful and bag me some kittuns |
| 23:49.05 | Brainshack | bake those kittuns! |
| 23:49.14 | Stewox | ofcourse im going to talk back |
| 23:49.18 | Stewox | he provoked me |
| 23:49.31 | Nash|327 | bag* |
| 23:49.32 | Stewox | he started trolling |
| 23:49.34 | Nash|327 | not bake |
| 23:49.39 | Dresnia | yeah and he told you to drop the stupid subject 5 times now |
| 23:49.42 | Mexa | Lol, I provoked you. |
| 23:49.43 | Brainshack | no bake! |
| 23:49.45 | Stewox | nope |
| 23:49.51 | Nash|327 | No bake indeed. |
| 23:49.55 | Stewox | he asked me back while i was gone several times |
| 23:50.12 | Dresnia | And we all regret doing so. |
| 23:50.12 | Stewox | you always point out the meaningless points dresnia |
| 23:50.23 | Dresnia | ... |
| 23:50.23 | Brainshack | i mean: No. Bake! |
| 23:50.29 | Vail | no baked kittuns .... |
| 23:50.32 | Dresnia | Stewox where do you live ? |
| 23:50.42 | Nash|327 | Kittuns are not for baking. |
| 23:50.54 | Nash|327 | Nor can you bake kittuns. |
| 23:50.59 | Nash|327 | Kittuns are born. |
| 23:51.09 | Vail | the are for the pettings ? |
| 23:51.12 | Stewox | the point is, you don't talk shit about what you have no clear understandment about , this is a grand rule , if you go out somewhere , you start talking shit about something you don't know and it pisses off people , you better watch your ass |
| 23:51.31 | Stewox | and that's how it works here |
| 23:51.34 | Mexa | Stewox, while you seem to be easily provoked, I get provoked by you in nearly every discussion, since you're always jumping all over me. |
| 23:51.37 | Dresnia | The point if going out is not talking and watching ass ! |
| 23:51.39 | Ashamed | ERG This INDAINS SOCKS AINT WORKING |
| 23:51.42 | Ashamed | and i am tired of talking to him |
| 23:51.44 | Brainshack | so you life in rednecktropolis? |
| 23:52.02 | Nash|327 | Petting, feeding, bagging, overthrowing human domination and ushering in a new era of kittunry... |
| 23:52.08 | Ashamed | i am deskside >< not nationside |
| 23:52.09 | Mexa | Talking about the past, so yeah, if I get provoked, then it must be you're trolling as much as I do to you? |
| 23:52.36 | Stewox | you better watch your ass , or i'll call whole anonymous to troll you back , simple as that , i just hate noobs who heard some shit on some FOX news and start trolling around , but i hope this won't happen to you mexa |
| 23:52.47 | Nash|327 | hahaha |
| 23:52.53 | Nash|327 | ONOES NOT TROLLS |
| 23:52.59 | Vail | i will fetch the troll eating goats and then we will be at peeace again.. |
| 23:53.00 | Mexa | Did you not mean they were going to hack me? |
| 23:53.01 | Nash|327 | THEY WILL RICKROLL YOU |
| 23:53.07 | Mexa | For the greater good? |
| 23:53.08 | Nash|327 | AND TELL YOU YOU LOST THE GAME |
| 23:53.10 | Mexa | <.< |
| 23:53.14 | Nash|327 | THE HORROR! |
| 23:53.17 | Stewox | you prolly heard about Anonymous on some stupid kotaku.com ... |
| 23:53.20 | Mexa | Also |
| 23:53.20 | Brainshack | chinese eat kittuns |
| 23:53.23 | Mexa | I DONT WATCH FOX |
| 23:53.25 | Brainshack | they surely bake them too |
| 23:53.25 | Nash|327 | Lies. |
| 23:53.27 | Mexa | go to hell. |
| 23:53.30 | Nash|327 | Kittuns eat Chinese. |
| 23:53.35 | Vail | yep |
| 23:53.35 | Stewox | im not talking about you |
| 23:53.37 | Dresnia | Stewox : I always find it amusing when people act thought behind their computer lol |
| 23:53.40 | Stewox | im generally speaking |
| 23:53.50 | Dresnia | Saying stupid shit like they send guys |
| 23:54.09 | Nash|327 | I SHALL SEND FORTH THE TROLLS! |
| 23:54.21 | Nash|327 | PREPARE TO BE RICKROLLED, CUR! |
| 23:54.30 | Vail | sounds like a bad fantasy movie till the second part |
| 23:54.32 | Mexa | Fine, lets end this now. |
| 23:54.42 | Brainshack | you guys shoulds start get out of your basements, get laid and enjoy life :) |
| 23:54.45 | Ashamed | nash |
| 23:54.47 | Ashamed | rickrolled is gone |
| 23:54.50 | Ashamed | its that friday song now |
| 23:54.54 | Nash|327 | Get laid? |
| 23:54.56 | Nash|327 | Fuck no. |
| 23:54.59 | Dresnia | rickrolled is a term |
| 23:55.03 | Brainshack | isnt it saxrolled now? |
| 23:55.04 | Stewox | it's not literal , it's generally speaking , don't mess around kid ... i obviously wont do anything to you , but don't go over the internet to spread shit ... anonymous is not a bad ideal at all - the media portrays them as bad |
| 23:55.06 | Dresnia | not really 1 specific song |
| 23:55.25 | Dresnia | Stewox seriously stop acting though |
| 23:55.30 | Nash|327 | Fuck, no. |
| 23:55.31 | Vail | i was riechrolled the other day |
| 23:55.33 | Stewox | im not acting |
| 23:55.42 | Dresnia | IF you even got any friends or whatever and you hijack my pc |
| 23:55.49 | Nash|327 | We're no strangers to love. |
| 23:55.50 | Dresnia | I buy a plain ticket and come beat you up |
| 23:55.56 | Ashamed | Rickrolling is an Internet meme[1][2] that involves the music video for the 1987 Rick Astley song "Never Gonna Give You Up" Dresnia its a new artist now / song |
| 23:55.57 | Dresnia | So feel free faggot |
| 23:56.00 | Brainshack | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcCMYD4apdo# |
| 23:56.01 | Ashamed | thus the name isn't rickrolling anymore |
| 23:56.05 | Ashamed | because RICK does not sing the song |
| 23:56.05 | Nash|327 | You know the rules, and so do I. |
| 23:56.06 | Brainshack | thats saxroll xD |
| 23:56.12 | Stewox | if mexa goes to the anonops IRC chat ... for example , he says the same things he's telling me , you bet they're going to pwn his ass up |
| 23:56.24 | Dresnia | oh noes they hax my pc |
| 23:56.28 | Dresnia | now i has too formats |
| 23:56.30 | Dresnia | boehoe |
| 23:56.31 | Dresnia | big deal |
| 23:57.17 | Brainshack | guys i really wish i had your problems :) |
| 23:57.27 | Stewox | you wish |
| 23:57.28 | Nash|327 | Dresnia, don't buy a plain ticket. |
| 23:57.29 | Brainshack | your so amusing to read |
| 23:57.30 | Mexa | No I would ask them, is it true? |
| 23:57.32 | Stewox | i have none |
| 23:57.35 | Nash|327 | BUY A FIRST CLASS TICKET! |
| 23:57.36 | Mexa | And then would tell me the facts |
| 23:57.41 | Nash|327 | Mwahaha. |
| 23:57.49 | Stewox | why you don't belive me then |
| 23:57.57 | Stewox | i spent 3 lines of epxlanations |
| 23:58.01 | Stewox | you still doubt |
| 23:58.05 | Dresnia | 3lines ? More like 5gig |
| 23:58.07 | Stewox | what the heck is there to dobut |
| 23:58.14 | Stewox | it's weird |
| 23:58.25 | Dresnia | no, you're wierd |
| 23:58.32 | Stewox | like he knows me , am i some CEO of some company my statments are biased ? |
| 23:58.44 | Nash|327 | We're all weird. |
| 23:58.55 | Nash|327 | Some are just more annoying. |
| 23:58.57 | Vail | im not in eccentric my shrink said so |
| 23:59.05 | Dresnia | Stewox you got the same knowledge and power inside this 'hacking/anonymous' scene then all of us |
| 23:59.07 | Vail | im* |
| 23:59.12 | Dresnia | You wikipediad some shit and try too act cool |
| 23:59.14 | Dresnia | Eat a cookie |
| 23:59.35 | Brainshack | anyone watching ipl? |
| 23:59.37 | Nash|327 | pet some kittuns and CTFO |
| 23:59.40 | Nash|327 | D: |
| 23:59.40 | Dresnia | I am |
| 23:59.41 | Mexa | I am |
| 23:59.46 | Dresnia | We are |
| 23:59.51 | Vail | dont know what it is |
| 23:59.53 | Brainshack | lovely game, aint it?^^ |
| 23:59.58 | JademusSreg | Moonan looks beastly. |
| 23:59.58 | Mexa | IGN Pro Leauge |
| 23:59.58 | Brainshack | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/IGNProLeague |
| 23:59.58 | Dresnia | nah it sucks |
