| 00:00.02 | JademusSreg | When I say they suck, I mean they would suck for Photon Cycles. |
| 00:00.11 | Xapti | although with mouse turn you can't turn sharp easily, but that's not really a problem |
| 00:00.19 | JademusSreg | Because they are less precise and less responsive than mouse to turn. |
| 00:00.28 | Ashamed | exactly |
| 00:00.33 | Ashamed | that is what makes it fun |
| 00:00.36 | JademusSreg | I can make 360 turns with a mouse, haha. |
| 00:00.40 | Ashamed | because you only have 90% angles |
| 00:01.03 | JademusSreg | Nope, that is 270 degrees less fun. |
| 00:01.29 | Ashamed | it makes it a differnt strat |
| 00:01.33 | Ashamed | i dont think it would make it suck though |
| 00:01.35 | Ashamed | not at all |
| 00:01.37 | Xapti | Nash you should log on to GW to see what's changed just for fun |
| 00:01.50 | JademusSreg | I'm not trying to emulate some shitty joystick game from the era of cocaine and sweaters. |
| 00:01.57 | Ashamed | lol |
| 00:02.06 | JademusSreg | I'm emulating a map I enjoyed and improved upon. =D |
| 00:02.44 | Ashamed | but i still do cocaine |
| 00:02.57 | JademusSreg | Ash, arrow keys would also be less responsive, which is to say the latency would be much greater. |
| 00:03.05 | Ashamed | really? |
| 00:03.08 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 00:03.15 | Ashamed | pressing key is more latency then mouse ? |
| 00:03.19 | JademusSreg | I don't use mouse movement. =D |
| 00:03.24 | JademusSreg | Buwahaha |
| 00:03.27 | Ashamed | you use that script right |
| 00:03.33 | Ashamed | but i thouhgt it had something to do with mouse movement |
| 00:03.39 | Ashamed | how does it detect the change then ? |
| 00:03.50 | JademusSreg | I use that script to get input for left click, no mouse tracking. |
| 00:03.57 | JademusSreg | Buwhahaha. |
| 00:04.11 | Xapti | yeah why can't they have mouse movement work like they have mouse camera? |
| 00:04.25 | Xapti | mouse move shoudlnt' be an event, it's so stupid |
| 00:04.25 | Ashamed | you have to left click to turn or something? |
| 00:04.30 | Ashamed | i dont remeber how you moved in your map |
| 00:04.36 | JademusSreg | Then go play it. |
| 00:04.40 | Ashamed | i am at work |
| 00:04.44 | JademusSreg | Then you will have license to discuss it. |
| 00:04.48 | Ashamed | and i get on sc like once every 2 week slol |
| 00:04.58 | Ashamed | and i just got back into WOW :( |
| 00:05.01 | Ashamed | i know shame on me |
| 00:05.06 | JademusSreg | Mouse to turn. |
| 00:05.20 | Ashamed | then how does it detect left click down lol? |
| 00:05.23 | Xapti | ashamed unit is connected to mouse camera |
| 00:05.24 | JademusSreg | Also, WoW is great if you don't mind pointless grinding. |
| 00:05.33 | Xapti | and mouse camera doesn't cause stupid lag like mouse move does |
| 00:05.38 | Xapti | it's ridiculous |
| 00:05.40 | Ashamed | yeah thats exactly waht i am doing now jade ... |
| 00:05.45 | Ashamed | i will hit 70 tonight! |
| 00:05.45 | JademusSreg | It's like having another job, only uyou pay them. |
| 00:05.54 | JademusSreg | So congrats. |
| 00:06.08 | Ashamed | but i a bunch of my friends started |
| 00:06.15 | Ashamed | we made a guild and we hav eliek 15 rl freinds already |
| 00:06.24 | Ashamed | thats why i started playing again |
| 00:06.29 | Xapti | That game by bounty did is pretty cool.. speed craft |
| 00:06.30 | JademusSreg | Friends from where? |
| 00:06.41 | Ashamed | work/life/school |
| 00:06.45 | Ashamed | all over the place |
| 00:06.51 | Ashamed | just we all decided to start playing again lol |
| 00:06.52 | JademusSreg | Ah, so it's like work in two ways. =D |
| 00:07.01 | Xapti | SHAME ON YOU |
| 00:07.02 | Ashamed | and then we got like 5 other people to join |
| 00:07.12 | Ashamed | our guild all all relife freinds so far |
| 00:07.25 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I can't play grind games. |
| 00:07.26 | Ashamed | we are all mostly 70-85 |
| 00:07.38 | Ashamed | besides the few that had to change servers <--- me :( |
| 00:07.39 | JademusSreg | It causes existential despair. |
| 00:07.44 | Ashamed | thats why i am only 70 |
| 00:08.07 | Ashamed | but have had it for a week |
| 00:08.07 | Xapti | I'm looking forward to GW2, and hopeing that D3 isn't terrible grind like D2 |
| 00:08.09 | Ashamed | so doing pretty good lol |
| 00:09.07 | Ashamed | xapti all good rpgs have grind.. but i think how you make a great RPG is you don't require grinding.. ( It should only be for the very dedicated ) |
| 00:09.19 | Ashamed | so yeah you can just go through the game and thats it |
| 00:09.22 | Ashamed | but if you want to master the game |
| 00:09.26 | Ashamed | thats when you need to grind |
| 00:09.47 | JademusSreg | Hahahaha |
| 00:09.48 | Xapti | that's how guild wars was |
| 00:09.55 | JademusSreg | All shitty RPGs grind. |
| 00:10.05 | Ashamed | every RPG has grinding |
| 00:10.12 | Ashamed | i have never played one without it.. besides like fallout |
| 00:10.15 | Ashamed | and i hated fallout |
| 00:10.17 | Xapti | I don't like calling the games RPG |
| 00:10.18 | Ashamed | fallout 3 |
| 00:10.31 | JademusSreg | No. Nearly all RPGs -allow- you to grind. |
| 00:10.31 | Xapti | D2 is not an RPG and fallout 3 is |
| 00:10.43 | Ashamed | when i hit lvl 30 on fallout or w/e the cap was |
| 00:10.44 | Ashamed | i was so fucking pissed |
| 00:10.49 | Ashamed | i was only like 10% done with the game |
| 00:10.54 | Ashamed | i never even played it again |
| 00:11.09 | Xapti | I don't understand, what didn't you like? |
| 00:11.35 | Xapti | level cap? |
| 00:11.39 | Ashamed | i didnt like how i already had a max character at 10% in the game |
| 00:11.43 | JademusSreg | Big numbers is not the point of an RPG. Playing through a story in the role of a character, employing your limited resources to overcome the big bad, that is the point of an RPG. |
| 00:11.50 | Xapti | that's like how guild wars is too |
| 00:12.12 | Ashamed | but big numbers make it fun :) |
| 00:12.15 | Xapti | although from story only it's more like 70% of the game |
| 00:12.19 | Ashamed | i love games that start out really small and let you get really big |
| 00:12.35 | Xapti | for only the first game |
| 00:12.36 | JademusSreg | Naw, big numbers give nerds meat worms a case of the lonely wiggles. |
| 00:12.46 | Ashamed | lol |
| 00:12.51 | Ashamed | so jade you dont like final fantasy? |
| 00:12.54 | Xapti | but over all the expansions and all the content, it's more like 5% |
| 00:12.55 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 00:13.07 | JademusSreg | Nearly every FF game is shit, to varying degrees. |
| 00:13.16 | Ashamed | so i must say every game you say is bad.. the majority of the people say is good :) |
| 00:13.29 | JademusSreg | Most people are shit too. |
| 00:13.56 | JademusSreg | That is partly jest. |
| 00:14.01 | Xapti | I like customization, I don't need lots of levels to do it |
| 00:14.03 | Ashamed | i would have to agree |
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| 00:14.12 | Xapti | armored core for instance |
| 00:14.22 | Xapti | or guild wars |
| 00:14.26 | Ashamed | but i think grinding in an rpg is required ;)... unless they do something else that is very customizable |
| 00:14.34 | JademusSreg | The only good Final Fantasy game happens to be my favorite game evah. |
| 00:14.36 | Xapti | or nox (or other FPS) kinda |
| 00:14.52 | Ashamed | stfu jade.. every final fantasy is the same ( not talking about story ) |
| 00:14.57 | Ashamed | they are all grind fest |
| 00:15.00 | JademusSreg | Haha,. |
| 00:15.03 | Xapti | RPG is for role playing |
| 00:15.06 | Ashamed | but they make it so you can just run through the game |
| 00:15.12 | Ashamed | without grinding |
| 00:15.21 | Ashamed | which is how i think it should be done |
| 00:15.21 | JademusSreg | That you can grind in any RPG is not the same thing as saying they require grinding. |
| 00:15.32 | Ashamed | which is what i said above jade |
| 00:15.43 | Ashamed | i think a good rpg only requires grinding if you want to master the game |
| 00:15.50 | JademusSreg | Hahaha. |
| 00:15.50 | Ashamed | thats exactly what i said :) |
| 00:16.00 | JademusSreg | Not the same thing I'm saying. |
| 00:16.08 | Xapti | so how is that a problem with regards to fallout 3? |
| 00:16.20 | Ashamed | because you cant even grind in fallout 3 |
| 00:16.20 | Rnuomer | sorry to interrupt discussion, but is there a way to cover cliffs in creep? |
| 00:16.21 | Ashamed | lol |
| 00:16.24 | Ashamed | NO |
| 00:16.41 | Ashamed | i was pissed because i started out grinding so i would be way good at the end of the game |
| 00:16.44 | Ashamed | but i found out it didnt matter |
| 00:16.45 | Ashamed | lol |
| 00:16.51 | Ashamed | i would of been just as good if i didnt grind |
| 00:16.55 | Ashamed | and i was fucking pissed |
| 00:17.08 | JademusSreg | Grinding might make your epeen big and thick, but you'll get blue balls because you never get to acheive a climax in the gameplay. |
| 00:17.13 | Ashamed | because i had put 5-8 hours into random questing/grinding |
| 00:17.22 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I'm looking at you D2, EQ, WoW, and GW! |
| 00:17.34 | Xapti | I remember when I played might and magic 2 I could grind like mad |
| 00:17.48 | Xapti | it also tok only like 20 seconds to kill 200 enemies |
| 00:17.53 | Rnuomer | is that a "no" as in there's no way to get creep on cliff squares? |
| 00:18.11 | Ashamed | i dunno there prob is rnuomer |
| 00:18.14 | Ashamed | have you checked the forums yet? |
| 00:18.16 | Xapti | I just had to hold down like shift+A and the fight (which was text only) would fly by in a matter of seconsd |
| 00:18.24 | Rnuomer | yeah I did |
| 00:19.14 | Xapti | GW isn't a grind game jdaemusreg |
| 00:19.38 | Xapti | you can get to level and item cap in a few days |
| 00:19.39 | Ashamed | its hard to make online rpgs not grind |
| 00:19.50 | Ashamed | because you want to add some kind of dedication to get max |
| 00:19.53 | Xapti | well less than 8 hours if you try hard |
| 00:20.05 | Ashamed | you dotn want people running around maxed right away |
| 00:20.12 | Ashamed | ... even though wow is pretty much that now >< |
| 00:20.22 | Rnuomer | I think online RPGs shouldn't use numbers as a means of progression |
| 00:20.27 | Ashamed | you know what game had too much grind in it ff11 |
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| 00:20.47 | Ashamed | rnuomer i have not played it but ff14 is suppose to be like that |
| 00:20.59 | Ashamed | but they released the game far to early and its not complete lol |
| 00:21.01 | Xapti | I heard FF13 was a grind game I think |
| 00:21.10 | Ashamed | no xapti |
| 00:21.14 | Xapti | or maybe it was ff 11 |
| 00:21.20 | Ashamed | at the end of the game it becomes grind |
| 00:21.25 | Ashamed | but 13 is prob the most liner final fantasy made |
| 00:21.26 | Xapti | I can't remember, I don't follow those games |
| 00:21.38 | Ashamed | you cant do anything in 13 |
| 00:21.43 | Ashamed | until you pretty much beat the last boss |
| 00:21.46 | Xapti | ok |
| 00:21.47 | Ashamed | and then it opens up |
| 00:21.48 | Rnuomer | I think MMORPGs should have some form of actual interaction with other players instead of "go to same place, hit same monters, get XP & loot" |
| 00:22.00 | Xapti | yeah a lot of people think that |
| 00:22.02 | Ashamed | yeah i wanted to make a spoof on wow |
| 00:22.10 | Ashamed | and make it so this guy watches the same 5 people turn in the same querst |
| 00:22.15 | Xapti | that's why games like second life and entropia universe are popular |
| 00:22.18 | Ashamed | and then go up to the guy and go WTF is your problem |
| 00:22.32 | Ashamed | you just asked 5 guys to go save your dog |
| 00:22.50 | Rnuomer | I notice how, in Rift, you immediately start out as "the Savior" |
| 00:22.57 | Rnuomer | just like everyone else... |
| 00:23.11 | Xapti | really? I thought it was a a bunch of people |
| 00:23.17 | Ashamed | you guys should check out 14 then.. i think its still free to play |
| 00:23.18 | Ashamed | :) |
| 00:23.27 | Ashamed | but everything skills up |
| 00:23.30 | Ashamed | no lvls though |
| 00:23.33 | Ashamed | so if you have a sword |
| 00:23.36 | Ashamed | you are a warrior |
| 00:23.36 | JademusSreg | If the level caps and items are meaningless, then remove them. =) |
| 00:23.57 | Ashamed | if you have a fishing pole you are a fisher |
| 00:24.21 | Ashamed | and ech of your skills lvl up.. and then you can start combining them once you get farther |
| 00:24.40 | Ashamed | so if you practice ax / sword... you will be able to do a select few skills from each skill base |
| 00:24.44 | Ashamed | to make your class |
| 00:24.44 | JademusSreg | Anyway, grinding to "master" the game is pointless. Congratulations, master of poop mountain. |
| 00:24.50 | UloseTheGame | Jade, you know what i think is ridiculous? |
| 00:24.57 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 00:25.10 | UloseTheGame | There are four copies of mineralZ on the top of the popularity list |
| 00:25.14 | JademusSreg | Hahahaha |
| 00:25.15 | UloseTheGame | one for each of it's mode |
| 00:25.18 | JademusSreg | That is hilarious. |
| 00:25.19 | UloseTheGame | easy |
| 00:25.20 | UloseTheGame | medium |
| 00:25.21 | UloseTheGame | hard |
| 00:25.22 | UloseTheGame | very hard |
| 00:25.29 | Xapti | mineralZ? |
| 00:25.30 | JademusSreg | Is this in NA or EU? |
| 00:25.55 | Ashamed | hey made a seprate map for each mode? |
| 00:25.56 | Ashamed | wtf |
| 00:26.09 | Xapti | it's a separate map? |
| 00:26.11 | JademusSreg | Naw, you can just republish the same made with different settings. |
| 00:26.15 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:26.19 | UloseTheGame | NA |
| 00:26.19 | JademusSreg | *same map |
| 00:26.20 | Xapti | ashamaned you can have same map differet modes |
| 00:26.26 | Xapti | will appear multiple timse |
| 00:26.29 | JademusSreg | That is hilarious++. |
| 00:26.35 | Ashamed | well why can't you just trigger the modes in ? |
| 00:26.46 | Xapti | you can |
| 00:27.07 | Ashamed | well then i dont understand why someone would release the same map in 4 differnt modes when you can have 1 map with all modes inside of it |
| 00:27.14 | JademusSreg | Four versions at the top of the popularity list, that is just too funny. |
| 00:27.41 | UloseTheGame | ashamed |
| 00:27.43 | UloseTheGame | lemme explain |
| 00:27.49 | UloseTheGame | for each mode in a game |
| 00:27.49 | JademusSreg | Ash, why not? It trolls all of battlenet. |
| 00:28.12 | JademusSreg | Best bnet troll ever. |
| 00:28.13 | UloseTheGame | it creates a different map lobby for each of the four modes created |
| 00:28.20 | Ashamed | yeah i get it |
| 00:28.22 | Ashamed | its stupid though |
| 00:28.28 | Ashamed | thats all i am saying |
| 00:29.04 | UloseTheGame | then you do get it |
| 00:29.10 | UloseTheGame | therefore your point is invalid |
| 00:29.16 | Ashamed | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.29 | Ashamed | he has 4 modes setup so when you join the map you join that mode |
| 00:29.35 | Ashamed | so hard mode = hard no matter what |
| 00:29.40 | Ashamed | because you are in the hard lobby |
| 00:29.55 | Ashamed | i dont understand why you would think that is confusing.... |
| 00:30.18 | JademusSreg | SquareEnix needs to just wrap it up and start making movie about effeminate boys saving the world from monsters and androgenous villains. Cut out the pretense of gameplay all together. |
| 00:30.33 | Ashamed | they are not |
| 00:30.40 | Ashamed | did you play 13 jade? |
| 00:31.06 | Ashamed | it was pretty much a movie like 60 hours of cg or something |
| 00:31.08 | Xapti | it's not his fault ashamaned, it's what blizzard did to lost maps |
| 00:31.30 | JademusSreg | The one with the gods and flying cocoon city and shit? No. |
| 00:31.32 | Xapti | if you upload one map with 4modes, the modes get shown on the popularity list separately |
| 00:32.07 | Ashamed | the newest one besides their mmo |
| 00:32.09 | Xapti | (i'm not sure what word "lost" is supposed to be) |
| 00:32.09 | JademusSreg | Hey gambits are a great idea. For any game besides an RPG. |
| 00:32.16 | Ashamed | it was 10 hours of cutscenes |
| 00:32.21 | Ashamed | 3 hours of it was CG |
| 00:32.41 | JademusSreg | It's just part of the sequence whereby SquareEnix removes the player from playing the game. |
| 00:32.46 | UloseTheGame | jADE |
| 00:32.47 | UloseTheGame | Jade |
| 00:32.54 | UloseTheGame | can you put in your loading screen |
| 00:33.02 | JademusSreg | FF16 will play itself while you watch Big Numbers fill the screen. |
| 00:33.09 | UloseTheGame | Find games in the Looking For Custom Games channel? |
| 00:33.20 | Xapti | tingI hate about the few final fantasies I've seen, is that combat is stupidly slow because of the movies they show each time someone uses an ability |
| 00:33.32 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 00:33.43 | JademusSreg | I'll put it in the silly Help panel. |
| 00:33.48 | JademusSreg | Above the loading bar. |
| 00:33.57 | Ashamed | 13 is nothing like that |
| 00:34.00 | Ashamed | its very fast battle |
| 00:34.05 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 00:34.11 | Ashamed | and you techically only have controle of the first character |
| 00:34.19 | JademusSreg | FF13 you fill up some shitty gauge to make the enemy vulnerabler to attack. |
| 00:34.32 | JademusSreg | Now Limit Breaks are mandatory! |
| 00:34.35 | JademusSreg | Congrats. |
| 00:34.37 | Ashamed | 0,0 you can break the armor of the enemey yes |
| 00:34.39 | Ashamed | but that is not needed |
| 00:34.46 | Ashamed | you did not play the game nor read up on it very good |
| 00:34.53 | Ashamed | thats just a system to kill the enemey faster |
| 00:34.59 | JademusSreg | Watch enemies vomit numbers like they just ate lobster from a lunch truck in the summer. |
| 00:35.24 | Ashamed | iits was differnt i didnt not like it |
| 00:35.27 | Ashamed | but i didnt love it |
| 00:35.31 | Ashamed | they made it so every battle was hard |
| 00:35.42 | Ashamed | you could run into some normal figghts that were just as hard as a boss |
| 00:36.45 | JademusSreg | If SquareEnix made a game that didn't suck, I'd be willing to open my heart to it. |
| 00:36.50 | Ashamed | lol |
| 00:36.55 | Ashamed | you play just cause 2 ? |
| 00:36.57 | JademusSreg | I don't hate the company, I'm not biased. |
| 00:37.10 | JademusSreg | They've just been making shitty FF games lately. |
| 00:37.17 | JademusSreg | (The last 12 years) |
| 00:37.19 | Ashamed | lol |
| 00:37.21 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 00:37.31 | Ashamed | just cause 2 may be on eof the best action games i have ever played |
| 00:37.35 | Ashamed | has alot of stuff in it |
| 00:37.43 | JademusSreg | Might be fun. |
| 00:37.48 | Ashamed | its like grandtheft auto but alot more options |
| 00:37.55 | Ashamed | you get like the graple hook |
| 00:37.58 | Ashamed | that is fucken awesome |
| 00:38.20 | Ashamed | and you can like graple to peoples cars or even graple them to the ground while they chase you |
| 00:38.42 | Ashamed | and its not all stupid gangster like grandtheft auto |
| 00:39.39 | JademusSreg | I don't like GTA either. |
| 00:39.47 | JademusSreg | A sandbox without consequences is boring. |
| 00:40.13 | Ashamed | then wernt they involved with the deus ex... didn't read up on it |
| 00:40.28 | JademusSreg | That's why I can only play Fallout 3 / New Vegas so much before I get bored. |
| 00:40.38 | JademusSreg | No matter how much food and shit I steal, they never starva. |
| 00:40.41 | JademusSreg | *starve. |
| 00:40.46 | Ashamed | :( |
| 00:41.05 | JademusSreg | So how is it wrong to steal if they don't need the food? =D |
| 00:41.12 | Ashamed | well jade it seems like you need to go create rl as a video game |
| 00:41.16 | JademusSreg | It's that kind of nonsense that ruins the games for me. |
| 00:41.52 | Ashamed | but fallout would be awesome if you could do that |
| 00:42.00 | Ashamed | um the realistic mode sucks too? |
| 00:42.14 | JademusSreg | The consequences within a game world out to be meaningful within the context of that world. |
| 00:42.28 | Ashamed | i did not play vegas... but i heard its pretty much the same exact game as 3 |
| 00:43.07 | JademusSreg | If the physics in a sandbox game sucks, you'd be like "wtf". Same thing, just a different dimension of causality, so to speak. It's all about consequence. |
| 00:43.48 | JademusSreg | New Vegas is like Fallout 3, only a bit more fun. |
| 00:44.05 | JademusSreg | Played through on Hardcore mode, but it was still too easy. |
| 00:44.36 | Ashamed | that is what i am getting tired of |
| 00:44.42 | Ashamed | i can handle the grinding |
| 00:44.54 | Ashamed | i am getting tired of the next series of an rpg getting released a year later |
| 00:45.24 | Ashamed | its like obv... you guys could of made this all one great game but instead you wanted to charge me the same price for 3 small games |
| 00:45.24 | Ashamed | ty |
| 00:45.59 | Ashamed | mass effect is the worse of this ... i could not believe how many mass effects came out after eachother |
| 00:46.07 | Ashamed | they all game out for this last generation |
| 00:46.10 | Ashamed | and they are on 3 already lol |
| 00:46.20 | JademusSreg | My copious hate makes this not an issue for me. How could it bother me if I'm not buying the games? |
| 00:46.30 | Ashamed | yeah i dont either lol |
| 00:46.50 | Ashamed | my friend let me borrow mass effect 3 or 2 i dunno which one it was |
| 00:46.59 | Ashamed | and i was like well this feels like the same exact game i just played last year |
| 00:47.01 | Ashamed | i dont want to play it |
| 00:47.06 | Ashamed | and i never played it again |
| 00:47.32 | Ashamed | brb |
| 00:47.38 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 00:48.47 | ProzaicMuze | That's because you're bad Ashamed |
| 00:49.20 | Rnuomer | hey guys my bank's aren't working =:( |
| 00:49.35 | Rnuomer | can anyone help me find out wat the promblem might be? |
| 00:50.01 | ProzaicMuze | must. . . resist. . . |
| 00:50.21 | Rnuomer | wat |
| 00:50.47 | ProzaicMuze | mumbles |
| 00:51.21 | Rnuomer | I thought I found the promblem when I realized I wasn't calling the "Save bank" function |
| 00:51.27 | Rnuomer | but it's still not working |
| 00:52.44 | Rnuomer | if anyone may have some advice that'd be great =:( |
| 00:54.07 | UloseTheGame | prozaicmuse remember your manners, you can be mean to some of the people all the time, and you can be mean to all of the people some of the time, but you cant be mean to all the people all the time |
| 00:54.21 | UloseTheGame | also, MineralZ is now the best map on battle net, it's officiakl |
| 00:54.26 | ProzaicMuze | Lies |
| 00:54.31 | ProzaicMuze | I can totally be mean to all people all the time |
| 00:54.49 | UloseTheGame | it has 4 duplicates of itself on the top of the popularity list |
| 00:55.41 | Rnuomer | so no one can help? =:( |
| 00:56.00 | ProzaicMuze | haha |
| 01:01.49 | Rnuomer | =:( |
| 01:02.37 | Nash|327 | more =:( might help |
| 01:02.47 | Rnuomer | =:( |
| 01:03.03 | Rnuomer | it seems like I have everything right |
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| 01:04.17 | Bounty | No Stream tonight? |
| 01:06.04 | Saeris | god damnit why do i run in to this problem every new map i try to publish |
| 01:06.21 | ProzaicMuze | cuzad? |
| 01:06.25 | Rnuomer | if I load integers from a bank, do I need to set them to a variable before trying to use them? |
| 01:06.26 | ProzaicMuze | cuzbad* even |
| 01:06.36 | Saeris | i'm getting that Default attribute values could not be validated error |
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| 01:08.03 | Rnuomer | because I'm get fustrated =:,( |
| 01:08.07 | Bounty | What is up with all of the Bloodline Champions fanboys attacking hero pvp maps calling them clones of Bloodline champions? |
| 01:08.19 | Bounty | Mephs Smashcraft now my map lol |
| 01:08.53 | Mexa | hey! |
| 01:08.55 | Rnuomer | all FPS's are a halo clone |
| 01:09.03 | Rnuomer | to some people |
| 01:09.33 | Nash|327 | fanboyism |
| 01:09.42 | Bounty | But heres the thing though |
| 01:09.56 | Bounty | I have not even released the details of what the mechanics of my map are |
| 01:09.59 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:10.03 | Rnuomer | is there anything special I need to do after loading integers? |
| 01:10.12 | Bounty | and its already being called a Bloodline Champions clone? |
| 01:10.18 | Bounty | trolol? |
| 01:10.35 | ProzaicMuze | I don't even know what Bloodline Champions is |
| 01:10.35 | ProzaicMuze | s |
| 01:10.35 | Mexa | Because it has resemblence |
| 01:10.37 | ProzaicMuze | sounds gay |
| 01:10.42 | Rnuomer | new MMO comes out: WoW clone |
| 01:10.59 | Bounty | it has absolutely no resemblence at all Mexa |
| 01:11.02 | Mexa | Bloodline Champions is a pvp arena map made by a swedish development teal |
| 01:11.06 | Bounty | You know what resemblence it has? |
| 01:11.06 | Mexa | *team |
| 01:11.12 | Bounty | an ability bar |
| 01:11.14 | Bounty | thats it |
| 01:11.17 | Bounty | is it just me |
| 01:11.26 | Mexa | Those who complain on your map is one of the minorities playing bloodline champions, since their database of users are low |
| 01:11.30 | Mexa | So just ignore it then |
| 01:11.35 | Nash|327 | development team is cheating |
| 01:11.44 | Bounty | or is it that if you have a simple ability bar in ur map u get these douche bag fanboys calling clone |
| 01:11.51 | Bounty | just because of that |
| 01:11.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:12.02 | Nash|327 | PvP OMG CLOEN |
| 01:12.03 | Mexa | Nash, go ahead, do it solo and you will discover it will take your more time that it should |
| 01:12.21 | Bounty | Development Teams are for losers |
| 01:12.26 | Rnuomer | my banks aren't working right =:( |
| 01:12.27 | Bounty | >< |
| 01:12.28 | Mexa | lol |
| 01:12.45 | Mexa | The term "alone being strong" doesn't work that way, |
| 01:13.11 | Nash|327 | CHEATING I SAY |
| 01:13.16 | Nash|327 | FUCKIN HAX |
| 01:13.39 | ProzaicMuze | So the Development COMPANY that made the editor that you are now using hacked the matrix? |
| 01:13.40 | Rnuomer | has anyone else had promblems with banks & know what promblem I may have? |
| 01:13.53 | Bounty | Dont use banks |
| 01:13.56 | Bounty | problem solved |
| 01:13.56 | ProzaicMuze | problems* |
| 01:14.05 | Mexa | Bounty, also, where did people tell you? |
| 01:14.18 | Bounty | some dude posted it in the comments under my maps news |
| 01:14.25 | Bounty | and i keep seeing that shit all over |
| 01:14.30 | Bounty | Bloodline Champions tanked |
| 01:14.45 | Rnuomer | but how else I do this |
| 01:14.45 | Bounty | Shit was 60 bucks at launch a few months ago |
| 01:14.47 | Bounty | now its FTP |
| 01:14.51 | Bounty | and its not even an MMO |
| 01:14.54 | Bounty | its just free |
| 01:15.11 | Nash|327 | It's not a map? |
| 01:15.12 | Mexa | 60 bucks? |
| 01:15.14 | Mexa | Forget it |
| 01:15.21 | Mexa | I dont believe you |
| 01:15.25 | Bounty | i just remembered a bunch of people getting on Mephs about Bloodline Champions and Smashcraft |
| 01:15.34 | Bounty | they are nothing alike lol |
| 01:15.42 | Bounty | Mexa, its free now |
| 01:15.48 | Bounty | because the game didnt sell |
| 01:15.49 | Nash|327 | Is it a map or a game? |
| 01:15.49 | Bounty | at all |
| 01:15.52 | Nash|327 | You said map. |
| 01:15.53 | Bounty | a game |
| 01:15.56 | Bounty | no |
| 01:16.02 | Bounty | i said BLOODLINE CHAMPIONS lol |
| 01:16.04 | Bounty | which is a game |
| 01:16.15 | Mexa | eh |
| 01:16.17 | Nash|327 | MEXA SAID IT WAS A MAP |
| 01:16.19 | Mexa | Source? |
| 01:16.22 | Mexa | No I didn't |
| 01:16.26 | Bounty | source for what? |
| 01:16.32 | Nash|327 | (Mexa) Bloodline Champions is a pvp arena map made by a swedish development teal |
| 01:16.33 | Mexa | it costing 60 bucks? |
| 01:16.33 | Nash|327 | (Mexa) Bloodline Champions is a pvp arena map made by a swedish development teal |
| 01:16.39 | Nash|327 | YOU ARE LIES |
| 01:16.43 | Bounty | Mexa |
| 01:16.46 | Bounty | its free now |
| 01:16.50 | Mexa | Meant to say game Nash |
| 01:16.50 | Bounty | so |
| 01:16.54 | Bounty | believe me or not i dont care lol |
| 01:16.56 | Mexa | so your sources are invalid |
| 01:16.58 | Nash|327 | No wonder. |
| 01:17.01 | Bounty | no |
| 01:17.09 | Mexa | I don't beieve that game ever cost 60 bucks |
| 01:17.14 | Mexa | It's a fucking indie game |
| 01:17.14 | Bounty | i was in the beta and the pre orders for the Titan Edition was 60 bucks |
| 01:18.10 | Nash|327 | So it's not a development team that made a map. |
| 01:18.20 | Nash|327 | Because that would be cheating. |
| 01:18.22 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 01:18.30 | Bounty | i dont even know what the hell you are talking about Nash |
| 01:18.45 | Bounty | >< |
| 01:18.48 | Mexa | The game have always been free |
| 01:18.51 | Rnuomer | is there anything special that I need to do with loading banks that I'm not seeing? |
| 01:18.54 | Mexa | What you buy are DLC |
| 01:18.57 | Bounty | Source Mexa? |
| 01:18.58 | Mexa | So no. |
| 01:19.00 | Bounty | SourcE? |
| 01:19.02 | Nash|327 | Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
| 01:19.03 | Mexa | Their website |
| 01:19.06 | Bounty | yeah |
| 01:19.07 | Bounty | its FREE NOW |
| 01:19.10 | Bounty | no shit |
| 01:19.14 | Mexa | https://register.funcom.com/signup/ctrl/register/se/bloodline |
| 01:19.14 | Bounty | it wasnt free at fucking launch |
| 01:19.17 | Mexa | No you dip |
| 01:19.17 | Mexa | <.< |
| 01:19.19 | Bounty | *applause* |
| 01:19.20 | Bounty | fail |
| 01:19.26 | Mexa | You fail Bounty |
| 01:19.27 | Bounty | ITS FREE |
| 01:19.28 | Bounty | NOW |
| 01:19.29 | Bounty | ^^ |
| 01:19.31 | Bounty | see that word? |
| 01:19.32 | Mexa | ITS ALWAYS FREE |
| 01:19.33 | Bounty | NOW |
| 01:19.35 | Mexa | WITH DLC |
| 01:19.36 | Bounty | wait |
| 01:19.37 | Bounty | let me quote it |
| 01:19.41 | Mexa | shitpickles |
| 01:19.42 | Bounty | "NOW" |
| 01:19.44 | Bounty | that word |
| 01:19.46 | Bounty | is key |
| 01:19.53 | Bounty | thats their FTP system |
| 01:20.00 | Bounty | its FTP and you can buy hats n shit |
| 01:20.12 | Bounty | but at launch it was a full packaged buy game |
| 01:20.25 | Mexa | It's called either dlc or microtransactions |
| 01:20.27 | Mexa | nuff said |
| 01:20.32 | Rnuomer | if I load something from a bank, do I need to set it to a variable berfore using it? |
| 01:20.39 | Mexa | Whatever |
| 01:20.41 | UloseTheGame | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2549105769?page=1#3 |
| 01:21.07 | Mexa | Who gives a shit about hats |
| 01:21.14 | Mexa | Let those people who like hats want to buy hats |
| 01:21.18 | Mexa | .. |
| 01:21.39 | Bounty | Hey Mexa |
| 01:21.43 | Bounty | let me know how my balls taste |
| 01:21.44 | Bounty | http://news.bigdownload.com/2011/01/09/bloodline-champions-changes-pricing-model-ahead-of-official-laun/ |
| 01:22.20 | Nash|327 | scrubs = profit |
| 01:22.29 | Mexa | The game was always free, considering they made the changes pre retail release |
| 01:22.33 | Mexa | So no.. |
| 01:22.38 | Bounty | that my friend, is called YOU FAIL |
| 01:22.45 | Bounty | really? did you even read the link i just posted |
| 01:22.46 | Nash|327 | ARGUE MORE |
| 01:22.51 | Bounty | 29.99 for the standard edition |
| 01:22.51 | Mexa | yes |
| 01:22.54 | Bounty | 89.99 for the Titan |
| 01:22.55 | Bounty | so |
| 01:22.58 | Bounty | *unzip* |
| 01:23.00 | Bounty | start suckin |
| 01:23.05 | Bounty | =P |
| 01:23.09 | Mexa | it said they changed the plans because of the feedback they got in the BETA |
| 01:23.16 | Mexa | let me quote BETA for you again |
| 01:23.24 | Bounty | The Champion Edition will still cost $29.99 (plus another $9.99 to add four more Bloodlust Bloodline champions) and the Titan Edition will still cost $89.99. |
| 01:23.36 | Mexa | And it still does |
| 01:23.40 | Bounty | no it doesnt |
| 01:23.43 | Rnuomer | is this the chat to be in for SC2 editor help? |
| 01:23.45 | Mexa | yes it does |
| 01:23.52 | Bounty | i dont even know anymore Rnuomer |
| 01:24.06 | Rnuomer | well no one's helping =:( |
| 01:24.06 | Mexa | Source: their webpage, what I linked you to |
| 01:24.10 | Mexa | Did you forget to look |
| 01:24.13 | Mexa | .. |
| 01:24.19 | Nash|327 | This is the chat to be in for arguing about random bullshit games. |
| 01:24.19 | ProzaicMuze | Yeh know |
| 01:24.24 | ProzaicMuze | there is just one problem in all of this |
| 01:24.28 | ProzaicMuze | Bounty doesn't have a penis. . . |
| 01:24.34 | Mexa | lol |
| 01:24.34 | Bounty | im done, this isnt even worth it |
| 01:24.41 | Mexa | Im done to |
| 01:24.43 | Bounty | thats it Prozaic? |
| 01:24.48 | Bounty | thats pretty weak imo |
| 01:24.49 | Mexa | Never bring up that again. |
| 01:24.53 | Bounty | i wont |
| 01:24.56 | Bounty | the game still blows |
| 01:25.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:25.10 | Nash|327 | HEY GUYS HOW MUCH FOR BLOODLINE CHAMPIONS? |
| 01:25.17 | Mexa | Better than angel arena. |
| 01:25.28 | Bounty | What is Angel Arena? |
| 01:25.41 | Mexa | The game is polished for a starter. Whether you like it or not is taste. |
| 01:26.02 | Mexa | Anyhow |
| 01:26.07 | Rnuomer | is it okay to modify player resources from triggers directly using the "Load Integer" command? |
| 01:26.20 | Mexa | Bounty, my point was that they might think it will be like Bloodline Champions |
| 01:26.27 | Mexa | Thus they argue before they learn fact |
| 01:26.45 | Bounty | Yeah but Smashcraft is an established NON Bloodline Champions clone |
| 01:26.51 | Bounty | and nobody even knows shit about my map |
| 01:26.57 | Bounty | except that there are Gods and PvP |
| 01:26.59 | Bounty | thats it |
| 01:27.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:27.04 | Bounty | the thing is |
| 01:27.08 | Bounty | People see an ability bar |
| 01:27.10 | Bounty | and say hay |
| 01:27.15 | Bounty | that game i play that has an ability bar |
| 01:27.23 | Bounty | YOU CLONED IT! |
| 01:27.30 | Mexa | And that you bashed around on a testmap, probably made them thing it was a pvp arena style of game where you bash around on people, like SmashCraft and BLC |
| 01:27.52 | Mexa | But meh |
| 01:27.57 | Mexa | Tell them it isn't then |
| 01:28.01 | Bounty | i did |
| 01:28.05 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:28.14 | Rnuomer | this is so hard |
| 01:28.41 | Rnuomer | This should be working but it isn't |
| 01:28.47 | Rnuomer | & I have no idea why |
| 01:29.30 | Rnuomer | it seems to be either when I load the data or save the data |
| 01:33.34 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 01:36.11 | Rnuomer | I can't think of anything I'm doing wrong ;_; |
| 01:37.20 | Rnuomer | do I need to remove banks after saving? |
| 01:37.34 | Rnuomer | is that may be the problem? |
| 01:39.37 | Mexa | JademusSreg |
| 01:40.00 | Mexa | I think EU are hungry for a cycles update soon. It has sunk to page 4 :> |
| 01:40.30 | UloseTheGame | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2549105769?page=1#3 the answer :D |
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| 01:42.07 | Rnuomer | does anyone know? |
| 01:42.53 | UloseTheGame | Yo Jade |
| 01:43.00 | UloseTheGame | you up for a round of Malum Ruina? |
| 01:43.11 | Rnuomer | y no one answering =:< |
| 01:43.17 | JademusSreg | Busy. |
| 01:43.46 | JademusSreg | Also, update is still being worked on. |
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| 01:52.34 | RodOfNOD | anyone know why mineralZis showing at the top and has 4 games? |
| 01:52.49 | Nash|327 | hacking |
| 01:53.10 | RodOfNOD | what kind of hacking could do that |
| 01:53.15 | Nash|327 | are all of them playable? |
| 01:53.15 | RodOfNOD | and wouldnt blizzard just pwn them |
| 01:53.23 | ProzaicMuze | Not hacking |
| 01:53.25 | ProzaicMuze | just pure spamming |
| 01:53.26 | RodOfNOD | idk |
| 01:53.32 | ProzaicMuze | like when NW spambotted |
| 01:53.42 | Nash|327 | I had 2 entries for my map when I uploaded a new version |
| 01:53.52 | Nash|327 | but the old version was unplayable |
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| 02:00.34 | Nash|327 | ZEE KITTUNWERFER |
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| 02:15.19 | RodOfNOD | i cant see how u could spam ur map to the top |
| 02:15.41 | RodOfNOD | certainly not multiple versions of the same map |
| 02:15.58 | Mexa | At US I presume? |
| 02:16.28 | Mexa | Since MineralZ is a european map, and no one is an official hoster on US, maybe 4 people decided to publish it? |
| 02:16.48 | Nash|327 | how do you publish a map 4 times using the same name? |
| 02:16.57 | Mexa | Or the latter 3 are old versions which can't be played |
| 02:17.02 | Mexa | Hm, no |
| 02:17.24 | Mexa | ThWhat I said now is the only option I see |
| 02:17.28 | Mexa | Why it would happend |
| 02:17.51 | Nash|327 | MEXAFACE |
| 02:17.54 | Mexa | It is known that maps creates doublettes of itself on the popularity system when it gets updated |
| 02:17.59 | Nash|327 | FACE OF MEXA |
| 02:18.13 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 02:18.17 | Mexa | And they all reference to the same map, so thus they all increase in popularity even though they all don't exist |
| 02:18.44 | Mexa | Give it time, and they will disappear. |
| 02:18.49 | Mexa | What Nashiefacie |
| 02:18.56 | Nash|327 | for me they had separate popularity and only one was playable |
| 02:19.14 | Mexa | yeah well, I guess that depends on a bunch of things like usual |
| 02:19.45 | Nash|327 | like amount of kittun in bag |
| 02:21.05 | Mexa | lol |
| 02:21.15 | Mexa | your solution to everything |
| 02:21.23 | Mexa | have a kittun |
| 02:21.32 | Nash|327 | unified field theory |
| 02:24.17 | Mexa | Yay, gonna watch some EG masters cup before naptime |
| 02:24.21 | Mexa | Later |
| 02:24.23 | Nash|327 | lies |
| 02:24.27 | Mexa | Nope |
| 02:24.31 | Nash|327 | lies |
| 02:24.36 | Mexa | siel |
| 02:24.44 | Nash|327 | fail |
| 02:24.51 | Mexa | :> |
| 02:25.02 | Mexa | Who said anything about typing something backwards? |
| 02:25.10 | Nash|327 | excuses |
| 02:25.21 | Mexa | sesucxe |
| 02:25.28 | Mexa | Bai! |
| 02:25.33 | Nash|327 | lies |
| 02:25.40 | Nash|327 | bag a kittun |
| 02:35.42 | Nash|327 | all horses at full mast |
| 02:36.25 | Nash|327 | activate marsupial dampening |
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| 03:07.08 | RodOfNOD | yes but there is NO Way that map can be that popular |
| 03:07.23 | RodOfNOD | first off its not that good lol |
| 03:30.35 | JademusSreg | Hahaha. |
| 03:32.11 | JademusSreg | How much EG have I missed? |
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| 04:05.55 | UED_Director | Shh |
| 04:06.34 | UED_Director | Don't give away the plan. |
| 04:07.30 | UED_Director | Considering the amount of people in this channel its surprisingly quiet. |
| 04:07.38 | JademusSreg | Most are sleeping. |
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| 09:38.16 | Dresnia | Who the hell is behind this TOFU project ? |
| 09:38.36 | Dresnia | I dislike their ego behaviour ! |
| 09:38.42 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 09:39.46 | Dresnia | I told him too shut the hell up in his thread lol |
| 09:39.51 | Dresnia | I AM A REBEL GUYS |
| 09:39.52 | Dresnia | hail ! |
| 09:39.56 | Dresnia | right, food now <3 |
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| 10:08.46 | HP-X|Arthas | http://kotaku.com/5802908/portal-2-finds-a-way-to-offend |
| 10:08.57 | HP-X|Arthas | errr |
| 10:08.57 | HP-X|Arthas | also |
| 10:09.00 | HP-X|Arthas | video contains spoiler :p |
| 10:09.13 | HP-X|Arthas | I got very depressed when the game told me I was fat :( |
| 10:09.22 | HP-X|Arthas | bbl, picking some trash out |
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| 10:45.27 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5bxOlBBgQ4&feature=player_embedded |
| 10:45.36 | HP-X|Arthas | I guess mentos + diet coke can still be funny :p |
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| 11:09.11 | Dresnia | hahaha HP-X|Arthas |
| 11:09.13 | Dresnia | mentos coke ftw |
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| 11:13.29 | Dresnia | http://tweakers.net/nieuws/74518/studievereniging-tu-delft-bouwt-s-werelds-grootste-nintendo-controller.html |
| 11:13.30 | Dresnia | rofl |
| 11:13.40 | Dresnia | biggest nintendo remote in the world |
| 11:17.25 | HP-X|Arthas | http://s820.photobucket.com/albums/zz121/TheMrBlackCat/?action=view¤t=GAMES007.jpg |
| 11:17.28 | HP-X|Arthas | nice |
| 11:17.53 | Dresnia | < all out of bubblegum |
| 11:18.02 | HP-X|Arthas | hides |
| 11:18.19 | HP-X|Arthas | good thing this game got prolonged though |
| 11:18.26 | HP-X|Arthas | would've fucked up my studies if not |
| 11:19.04 | Dresnia | You finish it in 15hours |
| 11:19.07 | Dresnia | So I doubt it |
| 11:19.16 | HP-X|Arthas | play through sp twice |
| 11:19.19 | HP-X|Arthas | then mp all the way |
| 11:19.22 | Dresnia | I found FEAR 2 a very fun game |
| 11:19.28 | Dresnia | I bought it at 6pm |
| 11:19.34 | Dresnia | and finished it in 1 run at 8am |
| 11:19.35 | Dresnia | lol |
| 11:19.42 | HP-X|Arthas | hahaha |
| 11:19.57 | Dresnia | I was like OH FUCK 8AM WTF |
| 11:20.04 | Dresnia | gogo work lol |
| 11:20.38 | TKC | deep under the surface, cold and dark. Vector with a new setting maybe? http://i.imgur.com/Koua6.jpg I'm currently trying around until malu gets back and we can finally start to recruit. |
| 11:21.08 | HP-X|Arthas | Dresnia: those sessions are bad |
| 11:21.17 | HP-X|Arthas | been there, fucked it up, slept during school / work |
| 11:21.33 | Dresnia | TKC looks rather dark |
| 11:21.44 | Dresnia | did you add blue sunglight beams trick ? |
| 11:22.17 | TKC | not yet, done this in about 30min |
| 11:22.35 | Dresnia | How exactly you do it ? |
| 11:22.38 | Dresnia | Is there water ? |
| 11:22.41 | TKC | nope |
| 11:22.43 | Dresnia | Or just a blue monitor making it look |
| 11:22.44 | Dresnia | though so |
| 11:23.00 | Dresnia | btw.. I find 'Cylinder' a amazing doodad |
| 11:23.01 | TKC | global lighting, fog, tinted doodads etc |
| 11:23.06 | Dresnia | but I can't find it in my doodad list |
| 11:23.11 | Dresnia | even with addind dependencies |
| 11:23.14 | Dresnia | Any idea ? |
| 11:23.21 | TKC | cylinder is not a doodad |
| 11:23.24 | TKC | it's a unit |
| 11:23.31 | TKC | same with cube |
| 11:23.33 | Dresnia | Can't find it there either |
| 11:23.38 | Mexa | http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2011/05/18/osama-bin-laden-leaked-video-scam-rises-again/ and yet again, people are stupid :< |
| 11:23.46 | Dresnia | But you can modify them too a doodad right somehow ? |
| 11:24.06 | TKC | create a new asset through dataeditor which uses the same model yeah |
| 11:24.30 | Dresnia | Aha hmm ok |
| 11:24.39 | Dresnia | I really don't know ANYTHING outside Terrain |
| 11:25.00 | Dresnia | I asked before but, I'd like a link to a 'beginner basic data' tutorial |
| 11:25.07 | Dresnia | The search option is just a mess >_> |
| 11:26.22 | TKC | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/tutorials/ |
| 11:26.56 | Dresnia | .. |
| 11:27.02 | Dresnia | WHY did I not find that :p |
| 11:33.51 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtG7IsC64JI |
| 11:33.56 | HP-X|Arthas | MORE LIKE THAT |
| 11:38.49 | Dresnia | DO |
| 11:38.51 | Dresnia | THE |
| 11:38.53 | Dresnia | MONKEY |
| 11:38.55 | Dresnia | BOOGIEEEEEE |
| 11:38.57 | Dresnia | \o/ |
| 11:39.33 | HP-X|Arthas | ? Millencolin? |
| 11:39.50 | Dresnia | Shut up |
| 11:39.56 | Dresnia | I'm doing the monkey boogie |
| 11:40.12 | HP-X|Arthas | 1. Record |
| 11:40.16 | HP-X|Arthas | 2. Upload to youtube |
| 11:40.18 | HP-X|Arthas | 3. ???? |
| 11:40.23 | HP-X|Arthas | 4. GLOBAL humiliation! |
| 11:42.49 | Dresnia | I got a pvp movie |
| 11:42.53 | Dresnia | of my frost mage |
| 11:42.55 | Dresnia | in 2005 or shit |
| 11:42.57 | Dresnia | :D |
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| 11:43.16 | HP-X|Arthas | :| |
| 11:43.17 | Dresnia | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4013424453017396591# |
| 11:43.19 | Dresnia | FUCK YEA |
| 11:44.07 | Dresnia | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5026951139109590825# |
| 11:44.09 | Dresnia | the rogue in arena |
| 11:44.10 | Dresnia | << |
| 11:44.12 | Nash|327 | Kittun all bags! |
| 11:44.31 | Dresnia | thundafuryyyyyyy |
| 11:44.38 | Dresnia | this movie makes me cry tears always |
| 11:44.39 | Dresnia | :( |
| 11:45.40 | Dresnia | FYI This hunter beating our ass was #1 in the world at that time :P |
| 11:46.02 | Dresnia | And later on youl see a tauren moonkin, he was top 5v5 player in tbc |
| 11:46.09 | Dresnia | too bad you can't read names |
| 11:46.34 | HP-X|Arthas | i dont watch wow |
| 11:46.35 | HP-X|Arthas | :| |
| 11:46.45 | Nash|327 | 5000 kittuns in a huge bag |
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| 11:47.14 | Dresnia | That clip isn't WoW |
| 11:47.16 | Ousnius | hi^^ |
| 11:47.23 | Dresnia | that clip is the highest pvp in vanilla ever played |
| 11:47.32 | HP-X|Arthas | SNFkasbdfIbasdifbasoidbfsdf |
| 11:47.44 | Dresnia | Hey Nash|327 ! |
| 11:47.47 | HP-X|Arthas | LOOKS LIKE WoW TO ME! |
| 11:47.58 | Nash|327 | kittuns |
| 11:48.14 | Dresnia | You never played WoW on a higher level or so then HP-X|Arthas ? |
| 11:48.42 | HP-X|Arthas | no |
| 11:48.46 | HP-X|Arthas | I stopped at 21 or so |
| 11:48.48 | Dresnia | Man |
| 11:48.52 | Dresnia | That's like beeing a Virgin |
| 11:48.58 | HP-X|Arthas | I seriously paid (over a span of time) 3 months |
| 11:49.06 | HP-X|Arthas | tried over and over again to actually dwelve into it |
| 11:49.06 | Nash|327 | what's wrong with being a virgin? |
| 11:49.20 | HP-X|Arthas | How the hell would one compare not playing wow == being a virgin :p |
| 11:49.25 | HP-X|Arthas | That's what I want to know |
| 11:49.26 | HP-X|Arthas | lol |
| 11:49.33 | HP-X|Arthas | Usually its the other way around |
| 11:49.38 | HP-X|Arthas | But have no fear |
| 11:49.42 | HP-X|Arthas | I played EQ2 instead ; D |
| 11:49.44 | Dresnia | It's the basic of all somewhere |
| 11:49.44 | Nash|327 | Well it's just 2 things you haven't done. |
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| 11:50.06 | Dresnia | The fanbase/friendbase I had and created, and still have sort off playing WoW |
| 11:50.16 | Dresnia | is a feeling nothing else in life will ever provide again |
| 11:50.51 | Mexa | the fucking school is spamming from facebook to my email <.< |
| 11:51.06 | HP-X|Arthas | I preffered the little gamers-shell |
| 11:51.15 | HP-X|Arthas | Their private forums had so much porn :D |
| 11:51.18 | nodgene | here lads, I have a problem with my published map. Apparently you can't join it unless you have a party size of 8... but why is that? Is it because the player slots need to be defined differently? or that games have to be created to be joined in bnet? |
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| 11:51.25 | HP-X|Arthas | Best.... shell..... EVER |
| 11:51.43 | Dresnia | You only know what's it like beeing on top of the foodchain if you actually stood there though |
| 11:51.46 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa, stop befriending the school on facebook! |
| 11:51.52 | Dresnia | WoW could be played in so many ways |
| 11:52.28 | Mexa | I guess |
| 11:52.50 | Dresnia | nodgene sounds like a map settings issue to me not sure |
| 11:53.30 | nodgene | I thought that could be the way of it dresnia, but unsure what could be done :O |
| 11:54.08 | Dresnia | I never published anything yet but someone in here must know |
| 11:54.13 | Dresnia | But I'm rather sure its in there |
| 11:55.15 | Ousnius | someone wanna test a program I started coding and then tell me if it worked? |
| 11:55.28 | nodgene | how big is it? |
| 11:55.32 | nodgene | my internet is shafted, |
| 11:55.36 | Ousnius | 120 kb zip |
| 11:56.17 | HP-X|Arthas | Ousnius: the ui tool? |
| 11:56.23 | Ousnius | ye |
| 11:56.32 | HP-X|Arthas | sure |
| 11:56.35 | HP-X|Arthas | pming mail |
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| 12:07.12 | Ousnius | mhm my IRC was bugged right? |
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| 12:07.32 | Dresnia | 14:07 Ousnius • mhm my IRC was bugged right? |
| 12:07.48 | Ousnius | nope I mean |
| 12:07.58 | Ousnius | did anyone write something between 13:56 and now? |
| 12:08.49 | Ousnius | oh wwait |
| 12:08.58 | Ousnius | forgot you've got different times :) |
| 12:09.23 | Ousnius | then the last 12 minutes XD |
| 12:11.26 | Dresnia | TKC |
| 12:11.29 | Dresnia | in the doodad 'list' |
| 12:11.38 | Dresnia | isn't there a way to increase the previeuw size |
| 12:15.04 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 12:15.09 | Nash|327 | make an offering to kittunkind |
| 12:15.41 | JademusSreg | What preview size? |
| 12:16.03 | Nash|327 | Awaken my child, and embrace the glory that is your birthright. Know that I am the Overmind; the eternal will of the Swarm, and that you have been created to serve me. |
| 12:16.05 | Dresnia | The 'black box' |
| 12:16.15 | Dresnia | it's zoomed out like hell and rather small |
| 12:16.30 | Dresnia | OH MY GODS |
| 12:16.35 | Dresnia | you can drag it upwards |
| 12:16.37 | Dresnia | eureka |
| 12:16.37 | JademusSreg | Nash, I love the Overmind's intro at the beginning of the zerg campaign in SC1. |
| 12:16.47 | Dresnia | Now, another stupid question |
| 12:16.54 | Dresnia | Doodads got like '5' options sometimes |
| 12:17.01 | Dresnia | Is there a key too swap them ? |
| 12:17.09 | Dresnia | I always 'enter > dropbox > select > enter' |
| 12:17.10 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 12:17.11 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 12:17.15 | Nash|327 | SERVE THE HIVE |
| 12:17.31 | Dresnia | good morning Jade btw |
| 12:17.33 | Dresnia | How rude of me. |
| 12:17.41 | JademusSreg | Duncare. Hah. |
| 12:17.46 | JademusSreg | Anyway, what options? |
| 12:18.45 | Dresnia | like a statue doodad |
| 12:18.47 | Dresnia | got like 7 |
| 12:18.56 | Dresnia | is there a quick key or way too look at all 7 |
| 12:19.19 | JademusSreg | Not really. Just have to open them. |
| 12:19.56 | Dresnia | So always open, in the 'list' select number 2 3 4 |
| 12:19.58 | JademusSreg | Or open them all in 3dsmax, if you fancy yourself a modeller. |
| 12:19.58 | Dresnia | enter, look |
| 12:20.44 | Dresnia | This editor is great, but they really missed out on a few little 'easy' points |
| 12:20.49 | Dresnia | like snap terrain to grid or stuff |
| 12:21.08 | JademusSreg | Hold Ctrl. |
| 12:21.20 | JademusSreg | While dragging. |
| 12:24.36 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEmEN8PFsgI stalker cat :3 |
| 12:26.18 | Nash|327 | KITTUN |
| 12:29.32 | Dresnia | JademusSreg ; holding ctrl doesn't work |
| 12:30.19 | JademusSreg | Well, it works for objects. =) |
| 12:30.45 | Dresnia | yup |
| 12:30.48 | Dresnia | ctrl g too |
| 12:30.54 | Dresnia | but terrain nopes |
| 12:32.47 | Ousnius | JademusSreg you didn't look at the tool yet, amiright? |
| 12:33.27 | JademusSreg | Right. And I must go to the gym imminently. |
| 12:34.41 | Nash|327 | gym wtf |
| 12:34.50 | Nash|327 | Why all this gym nonsense? |
| 12:35.40 | JademusSreg | Because a sedentary lifestyle must be opposed through physical activity. |
| 12:37.05 | Nash|327 | nonsense |
| 12:37.49 | Nash|327 | I lose so much weight anyway :G |
| 12:38.29 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 12:38.36 | JademusSreg | I'm not concerned about my weight. |
| 12:45.39 | Mexa | test |
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| 13:39.40 | Clord | when thinking about it.... most custom maps do map layout how blizzard not has meant it to be done... making structures look oddly aligned with rest of the stuff |
| 13:39.44 | Clord | but whatever |
| 13:39.49 | Clord | it is one hell to do it blizzard's way |
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| 13:48.57 | Dresnia | Clord how do you mean ? |
| 13:49.06 | Dresnia | Most doodads placed in melee maps don't make sense |
| 13:49.25 | burne- | hi dresnia |
| 13:49.30 | burne- | how you doing? |
| 13:49.33 | Dresnia | hello |
| 13:49.35 | Dresnia | good good |
| 13:49.38 | Dresnia | working on my zoo :o |
| 13:49.46 | Dresnia | restarted it like 3 times now >_< |
| 13:51.00 | Dresnia | burne- ; http://imageshack.us/m/833/7972/z0000000000.jpg |
| 13:51.01 | Dresnia | :> |
| 13:51.40 | burne- | what is that for? |
| 13:51.49 | Dresnia | It's a fighting arena |
| 13:51.51 | Dresnia | for the hero map |
| 13:53.48 | Dresnia | burne- ; http://imageshack.us/m/829/5039/arenaju.jpg |
| 13:53.50 | Dresnia | :OOO |
| 13:54.06 | burne- | right... |
| 13:54.23 | Dresnia | 11 arena's ! |
| 13:54.29 | Dresnia | Working on 2 atm tho |
| 13:54.32 | Dresnia | 9 finished |
| 13:54.39 | Dresnia | or well, ready for tests :p |
| 13:55.29 | Dresnia | looks ok the zoo or ? |
| 13:55.56 | burne- | hard to say from pictures so far |
| 13:56.35 | Dresnia | working on the 'path' atm |
| 13:56.46 | Dresnia | then paint the terrain |
| 13:56.50 | Dresnia | then doodads |
| 13:57.45 | burne- | mm |
| 13:57.52 | burne- | I wonder if I should go swimming |
| 13:58.03 | burne- | im really tired, but it would do me good to go swimming |
| 13:58.26 | Dresnia | hehe :p |
| 14:00.30 | burne- | I guess ill go swimming, cya |
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| 14:01.41 | Dresnia | don't drawn |
| 14:09.28 | Nash|327 | IT ARE ZOO |
| 14:12.32 | HP-X|Arthas | ~seen Maged |
| 14:12.49 | purl | maged <~chatzilla@74-207-58-82.nat.luther.edu> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 158d 15h 20m 23s ago, saying: 'ROFL'. |
| 14:12.56 | HP-X|Arthas | ~seen Maged- |
| 14:12.57 | purl | HP-X|Arthas: i haven't seen 'maged-' |
| 14:28.09 | Nash|327 | bagadelic kittunry |
| 14:28.54 | Dresnia | http://static1.hln.be/static/FOTO/pe/0/13/11/media_xl_4193471.jpg?20110518141719 |
| 14:28.56 | Dresnia | only in japan |
| 14:29.08 | Dresnia | 'Art Whore' |
| 14:30.31 | Nash|327 | thou art whore |
| 14:30.43 | Dresnia | :d:d |
| 14:49.12 | Nash|327 | mumblebees |
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| 15:33.20 | Rnuomer | hi |
| 15:33.41 | Nash|327 | kittuns Rnuomer |
| 15:33.51 | Rnuomer | =:O |
| 15:35.53 | Rnuomer | I am so close to giving up right now on my map |
| 15:36.01 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 15:36.10 | Rnuomer | everything should be working but it's not |
| 15:36.33 | Rnuomer | perhaps I'm not giving it time to save after it detects a win? |
| 15:36.52 | JademusSreg | Pastebin the trigger. |
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| 15:37.26 | Nash|327 | Nope, better to make vague references to what you're doing and complain that it doesn't work. |
| 15:37.38 | JademusSreg | In fact, pastebin all the triggers where you deal with the bank in any capacity. |
| 15:37.39 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 15:37.51 | Rnuomer | how do I get it as text? |
| 15:37.57 | JademusSreg | Copy As Text. |
| 15:37.59 | Helral|Afk | meow |
| 15:38.42 | Rnuomer | http://pastebin.com/7pxHts4s |
| 15:38.57 | Rnuomer | this runs when one of my win detection triggors go off |
| 15:39.29 | JademusSreg | I mean pastebin everything. All the triggers that deal with banks, Events, Conditions, and Actions. |
| 15:39.37 | Nash|327 | remove bank? |
| 15:39.45 | JademusSreg | Hahaha. |
| 15:39.55 | Rnuomer | I figured I needed to do that for it to work |
| 15:40.05 | Rnuomer | dunno why, desperately trying everything I can think of |
| 15:40.17 | Rnuomer | & it's probly something really obvious to you guys |
| 15:40.57 | Nash|327 | save to a bank and then remove it? |
| 15:41.15 | Rnuomer | so it can be opened again idk |
| 15:41.20 | Rnuomer | I'm not good with this |
| 15:42.39 | JademusSreg | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/2837-video-tutorial-banks/ |
| 15:42.51 | Rnuomer | http://pastebin.com/v7RYxzhd |
| 15:43.20 | Rnuomer | here's the triggers that go off when player 2 loses & player 1 wins |
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| 15:47.00 | Rnuomer | so is it something really obvious that I'm not seeing besides the removing bank? |
| 15:49.08 | Rnuomer | or should I just give up? |
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| 15:51.58 | JademusSreg | I don't have time to check it out, sorry. I've got an appointment. |
| 15:51.59 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 15:52.20 | Rnuomer | k =:( |
| 15:52.20 | Rnuomer | gl |
| 15:52.26 | Nash|327 | kittuns |
| 15:55.08 | Nash|327 | kit rockets |
| 15:56.08 | hurburdur | ahhh |
| 15:56.18 | hurburdur | after swimming its good to get some coke and pizza |
| 15:58.38 | Nash|327 | coke up your nose D: |
| 15:58.47 | Rnuomer | icky |
| 15:59.51 | Rnuomer | do I just need to wait after saving to a bank before ending the game? |
| 16:00.23 | Nash|327 | it's worth a try? |
| 16:00.43 | Nash|327 | Weren't you desperate? ;G |
| 16:01.00 | Rnuomer | yes but I'm on revision .8 right now |
| 16:01.14 | Nash|327 | and? |
| 16:01.22 | Rnuomer | & I don't want to keep pulbishing after every little change that won't work |
| 16:01.30 | Nash|327 | why not? |
| 16:01.41 | Rnuomer | seems like a bad idea |
| 16:02.01 | Nash|327 | testing stuff is a bad idea? |
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| 16:02.42 | Rnuomer | idk |
| 16:02.53 | Rnuomer | is a bad SC2 mapper =:( |
| 16:02.55 | Nash|327 | much better to go nuts |
| 16:03.16 | Rnuomer | are u on NA & have time to help me test it? =:3 |
| 16:03.21 | Nash|327 | no |
| 16:03.24 | Rnuomer | =:( |
| 16:04.04 | Nash|327 | more =:( |
| 16:04.09 | Helral|Afk | Rnuomer: you testing if the bank is created or if the stuff is loaded? |
| 16:04.20 | Rnuomer | both |
| 16:04.32 | Helral|Afk | at loading don't forget to preload the banks. |
| 16:04.40 | Helral|Afk | and you can't use variables for the preloading. |
| 16:04.55 | Rnuomer | I preload them at map start using the name "Rnuomer.mingas" |
| 16:05.18 | Rnuomer | maybe the . is messing something up? |
| 16:05.25 | Helral|Afk | could be. |
| 16:06.57 | JademusSreg | Before I go. http://www.netjeff.com/humor/item.cgi?file=DeveloperBees |
| 16:07.03 | JademusSreg | bbl++ |
| 16:08.59 | *** join/#sc2mapster Jum-Jum^ (~Jum-Jum@h85-8-27-194.dynamic.se.alltele.net) |
| 16:18.21 | Nash|327 | I demand kittuns in bags wearing hats |
| 16:19.10 | Rnuomer | y no bunnies in bags waring hats? =:3 |
| 16:19.29 | Nash|327 | kittuns > bunnies |
| 16:19.44 | Rnuomer | D:= |
| 16:19.45 | Nash|327 | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/21591-untitled-hero-survival-arena-showcase-requesting-feedback/#p6 NO REPLIES D:! |
| 16:22.53 | Rnuomer | well I need someone to help me see if this is fixed, but I don't wanna go into the bnet channels & look |
| 16:26.14 | Hati | hello random people |
| 16:26.25 | Rnuomer | hi =:D |
| 16:26.29 | Helral|Afk | meow |
| 16:26.43 | Nash|327 | wel it's like 10 in the morning for NA peeps |
| 16:26.51 | Rnuomer | 12 PM |
| 16:27.04 | ProzaicMuze | 9:30am |
| 16:27.08 | ProzaicMuze | screw you! |
| 16:27.10 | Rnuomer | but probly 10 AM somewhere in US |
| 16:27.37 | Nash|327 | people are at work or asleep ;G |
| 16:28.44 | Hati | 6:30 pm here |
| 16:28.45 | Hati | :( |
| 16:28.48 | burne- | hmmmmmmmmmm |
| 16:28.50 | Deaod | 6:30 PM here |
| 16:28.59 | burne- | should i make more heroes or polish gameplay/terrain |
| 16:29.02 | Hati | We are from the future. |
| 16:29.06 | burne- | probly polish it before proceeding further |
| 16:29.13 | Deaod | only slightly |
| 16:29.23 | burne- | 7.30pm here |
| 16:29.27 | Deaod | CEST is GMT+2 |
| 16:30.08 | Deaod | aussies, now they are from the future. |
| 16:30.43 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Hati] by ChanServ |
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| 16:33.07 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 16:33.17 | Rnuomer | hi =:D |
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| 17:12.26 | UED_Director | Anyone here not afk? |
| 17:14.29 | UED_Director | Apparently not. |
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| 17:18.30 | HP-X|Arthas | lol |
| 17:18.34 | HP-X|Arthas | that was quick |
| 17:18.35 | Dustin|Alt | :O |
| 17:18.45 | HP-X|Arthas | long time no see |
| 17:18.46 | HP-X|Arthas | pm |
| 17:18.52 | Dustin|Alt | Indeed! |
| 17:18.56 | ProzaicMuze | wah? |
| 17:19.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster EjnarH (c3f9bdad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.195.249.189.173) |
| 17:21.24 | Helral|Afk | meow? |
| 17:22.55 | Dustin|Alt | rawr? |
| 17:23.00 | HP-X|Arthas | woof |
| 17:24.35 | Helral|Afk | meow! |
| 17:35.39 | EjnarH | Anyone got experience using triggers to read the remaining cooldown on an ability? The function expects some string, beyond just specifying unit and ability. |
| 17:38.01 | Dustin|Alt | Paste the function plx |
| 17:38.22 | Helral|Afk | EjnarH: prolly the cooldown.link value |
| 17:39.02 | EjnarH | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.33 | EjnarH | So, it's just raw value "cooldown.link"? |
| 17:39.45 | Helral|Afk | I'd expect so, not sure never used it. |
| 17:41.34 | EjnarH | Doesn't seem to work. |
| 17:41.55 | Helral|Afk | hmmm |
| 17:42.06 | Helral|Afk | opening editor and looking for the function |
| 17:43.00 | Helral|Afk | hmmm ti does say ability cooldown link.... |
| 17:43.03 | Helral|Afk | it* |
| 17:44.26 | ProzaicMuze | Protip: delete all triggers. . . use Data. . . win |
| 17:44.26 | Helral|Afk | EjnarH: you checking it on a standard ability or homemade one? |
| 17:44.50 | Helral|Afk | ProzaicMuze: baka. |
| 17:45.01 | Helral|Afk | ;p |
| 17:45.13 | ProzaicMuze | No you're an idiot |
| 17:45.20 | burne- | haha |
| 17:45.26 | Helral|Afk | ProzaicMuze: Aho ;p |
| 17:45.28 | burne- | i got your bakc Helral|Afk |
| 17:45.38 | burne- | prozaic muze is data noob |
| 17:45.39 | Helral|Afk | ducks |
| 17:45.44 | EjnarH | Homemade. Might have specified the cooldown wrongly. |
| 17:45.48 | Helral|Afk | :) |
| 17:45.59 | ProzaicMuze | I'm also not stupid |
| 17:46.02 | Helral|Afk | I'd check the Cooldown.Link value ;p |
| 17:46.11 | Helral|Afk | ProzaicMuze: ecchi :O |
| 17:46.18 | ProzaicMuze | My parents both were fluent in japanese at one point in time when they taught foreign exchange students english |
| 17:46.30 | Helral|Afk | :P |
| 17:46.59 | ProzaicMuze | That's not an insult I'm familiar with |
| 17:47.01 | ProzaicMuze | sounds familiar though |
| 17:47.05 | Helral|Afk | hahaha |
| 17:47.08 | Dustin|Alt | Whats a valid Cooldown.Link I wonder |
| 17:47.36 | Helral|Afk | Dustin|Alt: just go to the ability and look at whatever is written there ;p |
| 17:47.58 | Dustin|Alt | Oh that's right |
| 17:48.01 | Dustin|Alt | Cause you specify it |
| 17:48.04 | HP-X|Arthas | baka baka baka baka |
| 17:48.09 | HP-X|Arthas | best song EVER |
| 17:48.16 | Helral|Afk | Akane-chan ;) |
| 17:48.24 | EjnarH | Do you mean a value within the Ability->Cost+ -> Cooldown section? |
| 17:48.24 | Helral|Afk | Ranma 1/2 :P |
| 17:48.29 | Helral|Afk | yup |
| 17:48.47 | Helral|Afk | the Cooldown.Link to be specific |
| 17:49.08 | ProzaicMuze | lmfao you perv |
| 17:49.10 | Helral|Afk | use raw mode and not combine structure ;p |
| 17:49.11 | ProzaicMuze | those aren't insults |
| 17:49.30 | Helral|Afk | ProzaicMuze: ow you figured out what it meant ;p |
| 17:49.52 | ProzaicMuze | i realized where I recognized them from when you put Ranma 1/2 |
| 17:50.01 | Helral|Afk | XD |
| 17:50.03 | ProzaicMuze | Have a friend who is an anime/manga nut |
| 17:50.11 | EjnarH | Checked it in raw data and I don't see a Cooldown.Link value within Cost+. |
| 17:50.39 | Helral|Afk | It doesn't have: Cost - Cooldown - Link or Cost - Cost - Cooldown - Link? |
| 17:50.53 | Helral|Afk | which type of ability? |
| 17:50.57 | EjnarH | Not in raw data. |
| 17:51.11 | EjnarH | EffectInstant |
| 17:51.27 | Helral|Afk | Cost - Cost - Cooldown - Link |
| 17:51.36 | Helral|Afk | I'm seeing it standing on my screen. |
| 17:51.46 | Helral|Afk | did you uncollapse the structure? |
| 17:51.51 | EjnarH | Ah, I'm seeing it now. Had to toggle off combine. |
| 17:51.57 | Helral|Afk | exactly ;p |
| 17:52.42 | Helral|Afk | I'll need to link my button setup to tell people where to look ;p |
| 17:53.28 | Helral|Afk | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/data/#w-data-editor-settings <-- like in linking that ;p |
| 17:56.39 | EjnarH | Meh, that value didn't change anything. I'll try it with a default ability. |
| 17:57.40 | Helral|Afk | meow? |
| 17:59.25 | Dustin|Alt | ohhh shiiit |
| 17:59.26 | Dustin|Alt | http://i.imgur.com/90sTm.png |
| 18:01.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mexa (504ed821@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.78.216.33) |
| 18:01.12 | Mexa | hey! |
| 18:04.42 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
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| 18:12.21 | Helral|Afk | EjnarH: just tested it works for me ;p |
| 18:12.43 | EjnarH | Works for me too when testing with Zeratul blink. |
| 18:12.54 | Helral|Afk | EjnarH: it depends on where the cooldown is set. |
| 18:13.01 | EjnarH | For some reason the trigger refuses to catch my ability. |
| 18:13.03 | Helral|Afk | if it's on the unit or ability. |
| 18:13.26 | Helral|Afk | Cost - Cost - Cooldown - Location |
| 18:13.47 | Helral|Afk | that value needs to be Ability to see it using the function you mentioned. |
| 18:14.09 | EjnarH | It is. And the value is set in cost - cost - cooldown - link |
| 18:14.27 | Helral|Afk | I used a dummy ability. |
| 18:14.59 | Helral|Afk | instant effect (homemade) to test it with ;p |
| 18:15.23 | Xaragoth | Folks |
| 18:15.28 | EjnarH | So it had no effect beyond being a button with a cooldown? |
| 18:15.33 | Xaragoth | The next one to work at Riot for low money |
| 18:15.35 | Helral|Afk | meow |
| 18:15.36 | Xaragoth | Please tell me |
| 18:15.39 | Helral|Afk | EjnarH: yup |
| 18:15.44 | Xaragoth | I'll pay you to PUNCH SOMEONE FOR THEIR SLOW LOGIN SERVER |
| 18:15.48 | Xaragoth | throws Helral a fish. |
| 18:15.55 | Helral|Afk | eats the fish |
| 18:15.57 | Helral|Afk | meows |
| 18:16.05 | EjnarH | Which command did you bind it to in the command card? |
| 18:16.17 | Helral|Afk | hmmm? how you mean? |
| 18:16.55 | EjnarH | When giving the ability to a unit and placing it in the command card. |
| 18:17.06 | burne- | its time |
| 18:17.18 | EjnarH | As in how a stop ability needs to have cheer/dance specified in order to actually show up. |
| 18:17.19 | Helral|Afk | ow just some random button. Execute command. |
| 18:17.38 | Helral|Afk | huh Stop needs cheer/dance specified?? |
| 18:17.47 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 18:18.00 | EjnarH | Whenever I specify Stop:Stop it fails to show. |
| 18:18.03 | EjnarH | for custom buttons. |
| 18:19.27 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mexa_ (504ed821@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.78.216.33) |
| 18:20.02 | Mexa_ | rtogk |
| 18:20.07 | Mexa_ | ragequit |
| 18:20.24 | Dresnia | Why don't you use a real irc client Mexa |
| 18:20.33 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 18:20.43 | Mexa_ | How is that going to help me when my router is the problem? |
| 18:20.44 | EjnarH | Hmm, that part seems patched now. |
| 18:20.47 | Helral|Afk | EjnarH: I just removed the dance/cheer/hold pos from my Unknown Ability (type Stop) |
| 18:20.59 | Helral|Afk | and I added the ability to my unit, and set it on the command card.... |
| 18:21.10 | Ousnius | Helral|Afk |
| 18:21.23 | Ousnius | could you give me a lit of all changeable UI items for sc2layout files? |
| 18:21.24 | Dresnia | Why do you use a fucking ROUTER |
| 18:21.25 | Mexa_ | Sometimes, without me really disconnecting from the router, it loses internet connection... So I manually need to disconnect the computer, and then connect again |
| 18:21.27 | Ousnius | list* |
| 18:21.30 | Dresnia | That stuff was cool in the 90's |
| 18:21.43 | Mexa_ | Because wifi? |
| 18:21.45 | Ousnius | I need to know their names for my tool |
| 18:21.49 | Helral|Afk | Ousnius: uhm changeable UI items? |
| 18:21.55 | Helral|Afk | Ousnius: how you mean |
| 18:21.55 | Dresnia | Wifi + router oh boys |
| 18:22.02 | Mexa_ | No way, 56k modems was cool in the 90's |
| 18:22.06 | Dresnia | That's like sex with a prostitute |
| 18:22.08 | Helral|Afk | Ousnius: poke me in query/pm/msg ;p |
| 18:22.09 | Dresnia | it looks okay |
| 18:22.09 | Ousnius | minimappanel, resorucepanel, battle.net button |
| 18:22.10 | Ousnius | etc. |
| 18:22.11 | Dresnia | buti it sucks |
| 18:22.21 | Dresnia | Ousnius & Helral|Afk you may hush now |
| 18:22.23 | Dresnia | I am talking |
| 18:22.28 | Mexa_ | wifi + mobile network is suck |
| 18:22.34 | Helral|Afk | whacks Dresnia with an ACME mallot |
| 18:22.41 | Dresnia | throws a playstation at Helral|Afk |
| 18:22.49 | Mexa_ | I refuse to rely my internet on certain hotspots for optimal performance... |
| 18:22.54 | Helral|Afk | now has a playstation. |
| 18:23.00 | Helral|Afk | ;p |
| 18:23.03 | Dresnia | Glass Fibernet directly into a desktop |
| 18:23.11 | Dresnia | that's how you supposed to do it |
| 18:23.17 | Dresnia | a Switch is ok between |
| 18:23.43 | Mexa_ | A switch is a router... |
| 18:23.47 | Mexa_ | Or rather, a hub |
| 18:23.50 | Dresnia | No, a hub |
| 18:23.51 | Mexa_ | And a router is a hub too |
| 18:23.54 | JademusSreg | I think I'll play melee and work on melee maps for a while, after this update. |
| 18:23.55 | Mexa_ | So whatever |
| 18:24.04 | Dresnia | Well, a Switch(Hub) isn't a Router |
| 18:24.13 | Dresnia | if you don't know the difference I rest my case :( |
| 18:24.28 | Mexa_ | When you find a wireless switch let me now |
| 18:24.30 | Mexa_ | Or are there? |
| 18:24.36 | Dresnia | There are |
| 18:24.37 | Dresnia | I got one |
| 18:24.45 | Mexa_ | I'm fine with my router so meh |
| 18:24.48 | Dresnia | I got 2 switches & wifi switch running my house |
| 18:24.56 | Dresnia | running in my house even |
| 18:25.02 | Mexa_ | k |
| 18:25.12 | Mexa_ | .-. |
| 18:25.18 | Dresnia | The benefit is its not making fake ip stuff so it works directly |
| 18:25.22 | Dresnia | never buggy or whatever |
| 18:25.25 | Mexa_ | Well, switches lack security don't they` |
| 18:25.37 | Mexa_ | fake ip stuff? |
| 18:25.37 | Dresnia | 'security' |
| 18:25.54 | Dresnia | If you know what you click you don't need security |
| 18:25.55 | Mexa_ | My router works directly |
| 18:26.07 | Mexa_ | Meh |
| 18:26.19 | Mexa_ | I know that |
| 18:26.22 | Dresnia | I don't hate you, I hate disconnects :P |
| 18:26.39 | Mexa_ | Then again, I like that my router take care of certain port scanning and shit it warns me for |
| 18:26.53 | Mexa_ | If it's not a false positive |
| 18:27.18 | Dresnia | in case of shit delete system 32 |
| 18:27.21 | Dresnia | works like a charm |
| 18:27.48 | Mexa_ | lol |
| 18:29.19 | Dresnia | Ousnius & Helral|Afk you may continue now |
| 18:29.20 | Mexa_ | My mom's ladyfriend called me a nerd. |
| 18:29.47 | Dresnia | Throw a usb sex toy at him and tell him your life is better then his |
| 18:29.50 | Mexa_ | And that was because I have several windows opened at once with at least 10 tabs up in each. |
| 18:30.16 | Dresnia | Well that's normal if you use a stupid irc webbrowers on a router |
| 18:30.19 | Dresnia | BADUMTISH |
| 18:35.45 | EjnarH | Got it working now. Thanks, Heral. |
| 18:36.30 | EjnarH | Just had a major facepalm moment, when I realized that I'd spent 45 minutes owning myself with case sensitive ability IDs. |
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| 18:38.02 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 18:39.11 | Helral|nAfk | lol |
| 18:41.22 | JademusSreg | Any good streams today? |
| 18:46.19 | Mexa_ | let see :) |
| 18:48.41 | Mexa_ | http://www.teamliquid.net/calendar/2011/05/#day_19 something here perhaps |
| 18:50.18 | JademusSreg | I'm just watching dat 9 casts. =D |
| 18:50.24 | JademusSreg | *day9 |
| 18:56.41 | Mexa_ | aah |
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| 19:01.27 | Kueken | mapster main page bugs out for me |
| 19:01.31 | Kueken | anyone else? |
| 19:01.46 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 19:02.03 | JademusSreg | Looks like it's missing it's style sheet or some shit. |
| 19:02.21 | Helral|nAfk | stylesheet problem ;p |
| 19:02.28 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:02.57 | Helral|nAfk | works correctly for me now ;p |
| 19:04.28 | Mexa_ | That they never fix the text menu on top of the account info in the profile, and at the assets.. |
| 19:04.36 | Mexa_ | *menu text |
| 19:15.17 | Mexa_ | It's abit ironic, most sc2 pro players play matches on the lowest settings. |
| 19:15.35 | JademusSreg | I can't stand that. D= |
| 19:15.45 | Mexa_ | While castings are on the highest as possible |
| 19:15.51 | JademusSreg | But I understand the reasons. |
| 19:16.00 | Mexa_ | Yeah, it seems the better graphic makes it less distracting:p |
| 19:16.04 | Mexa_ | *more |
| 19:19.00 | Mexa_ | JademusSreg, like that:p http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Liquid%60TLO |
| 19:19.07 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 19:19.18 | JademusSreg | I like watching TLO play. But not his stream. |
| 19:19.23 | JademusSreg | Looks like butt. |
| 19:19.36 | Mexa_ | Yeah, disgusting;) |
| 19:19.48 | JademusSreg | Hairy butt. |
| 19:19.58 | Mexa_ | Some epic music over there though |
| 19:20.25 | stewox | mexa_ |
| 19:20.32 | stewox | what's wrong with router ? |
| 19:21.11 | Mexa_ | Nothiing |
| 19:21.19 | Mexa_ | It was Dresnia who said that |
| 19:22.04 | Dustin|Alt | What are you guys up to |
| 19:22.12 | JademusSreg | Watching day9 casts. |
| 19:22.21 | Mexa_ | Watching TLO stream |
| 19:22.52 | Mexa_ | Or more, listening to it |
| 19:22.53 | JademusSreg | Also considering melee maps I'd like to make after this update. =) |
| 19:23.11 | Dustin|Alt | I thought about a melee map |
| 19:24.42 | Nash|327 | NO FUCKING MELEE MAPS, I WILL EAT YOUR EYES D: |
| 19:25.26 | JademusSreg | Melee is robust and interesting, I like it, even though I am terrible in my inexperience. |
| 19:25.49 | Nash|327 | Thou shalt not perpetuate the plague that is melee. |
| 19:27.17 | JademusSreg | I disagree. |
| 19:27.29 | Nash|327 | Then you must be destroyed. |
| 19:27.33 | JademusSreg | Melee is preferable to nearly all the custom maps available. |
| 19:27.43 | TheBaron87 | ^ |
| 19:27.45 | Nash|327 | pew pew pew |
| 19:28.04 | JademusSreg | wep wep wep |
| 19:28.20 | JademusSreg | I matched your pew with invertedp olarity, and other technobabble. |
| 19:28.29 | Nash|327 | false dillema |
| 19:28.36 | JademusSreg | I'll bounce a graviton particle beam off the main deflector dish. |
| 19:28.45 | Nash|327 | YOU DON'T NEED TO PLAY MELEE OR SHITTY MAPS |
| 19:28.47 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 19:29.12 | Mexa_ | I think I should go and play rollecoaster tycoon |
| 19:29.18 | Mexa_ | For the nostalgia sake |
| 19:29.20 | Deaod | well, what if youd like to play some starcraft |
| 19:29.28 | Nash|327 | Never! |
| 19:29.34 | JademusSreg | I have played Rollercoaster Tycoon. For an hour. Then I threw it away. |
| 19:29.38 | TheBaron87 | D: |
| 19:29.44 | Mexa_ | aw |
| 19:29.55 | Nash|327 | Sim games are only fun for 15 minutes, making some sort of accident. |
| 19:29.55 | Deaod | but dont want to play any of the good and popular custom maps? |
| 19:29.56 | Mexa_ | Well, I like it |
| 19:30.08 | TheBaron87 | Rollercoaster Tycoon is awesome, but SC2 melee is the best game ever made. You just wouldn't want to spend 100% of your time playing it, that's why there are customs. |
| 19:30.21 | Mexa_ | RCT is is fun and casual Imo |
| 19:30.25 | Nash|327 | best game ever made lawl |
| 19:30.32 | Nash|327 | not even close |
| 19:30.33 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 19:30.34 | TheBaron87 | I actually don't say that very often |
| 19:30.46 | TheBaron87 | Last game that was the best ever was 11 years ago |
| 19:30.46 | Mexa_ | Whatever |
| 19:30.49 | Mexa_ | Taste is taste |
| 19:30.51 | Mexa_ | D: |
| 19:30.53 | JademusSreg | There are maybe two dozen fun maps. |
| 19:30.57 | Nash|327 | But mine is right. |
| 19:30.59 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:31.00 | Deaod | Nash, concerning RTSs, SC2 is about as good as itll get |
| 19:31.16 | Nash|327 | RTS, bah humbug. |
| 19:31.32 | Mexa_ | I'd play Company of Heroes over sc2 melee though |
| 19:31.43 | JademusSreg | I hear that's good. =D |
| 19:31.50 | Nash|327 | Dawn of War 2 is more fun ;G |
| 19:31.59 | Mexa_ | DoW is made on the same engine |
| 19:32.01 | Mexa_ | So I guess |
| 19:32.02 | Mexa_ | .. |
| 19:32.08 | TheBaron87 | I'd take CoH before DoW2, but they're both awesome |
| 19:32.08 | Deaod | what? |
| 19:32.26 | JademusSreg | I've got DoW2, I just don't play it often. |
| 19:32.51 | Mexa_ | CoH has some neat addition to strategy, capturing territories to gain resources, flank enemies, cut off territory supplies and so on |
| 19:33.06 | Mexa_ | Not mentioning you can have units in buildings pinning incoming attacks |
| 19:33.23 | Mexa_ | Pretty fun |
| 19:33.25 | Mexa_ | stuff |
| 19:33.33 | TheBaron87 | it's tactics |
| 19:33.40 | Mexa_ | yeah |
| 19:33.52 | Deaod | nothing youd want to play in a competitive environment |
| 19:33.54 | Mexa_ | And also, armors are weak if you hit them from behind, and so on |
| 19:34.06 | Dustin|Alt | Should I have MORE units or make the ones I have upgradeable? |
| 19:34.26 | JademusSreg | Dustin, I think it's not that simple. |
| 19:34.30 | Mexa_ | CoH is a different style of RTS |
| 19:34.38 | JademusSreg | You shouldn't have filler units just to have the,. |
| 19:34.38 | Nash|327 | having more options is not always a good thing |
| 19:34.42 | JademusSreg | *them |
| 19:34.45 | Mexa_ | Whether you like CoH or a pretty basic Sc2 is up to you |
| 19:34.55 | Mexa_ | *more basic* |
| 19:34.59 | TheBaron87 | lolwut? |
| 19:35.01 | Mexa_ | I like both |
| 19:35.03 | Nash|327 | The key is to have options sufficiently distinct and warranted. |
| 19:35.04 | TheBaron87 | SC2 isn't more basic |
| 19:35.11 | TheBaron87 | it's complex in different areas |
| 19:35.15 | Mexa_ | Sc2 hasn't evolved much from sc1 |
| 19:35.15 | Dustin|Alt | Actually i think I figured out what Im gonna do |
| 19:35.39 | TheBaron87 | it has evolved, it hasn't deviated, and personally I am extremely grateful |
| 19:35.42 | Mexa_ | What they did in sc2 isn't very new to the RTS genre, that's what I mean |
| 19:36.02 | Deaod | thats hardly blizzards aim |
| 19:36.08 | Mexa_ | But who cares, they played their cards safely, and it is a success, and I like it still |
| 19:36.11 | Mexa_ | I know |
| 19:36.23 | TheBaron87 | well new != better. considering no RTS after was better than BW, why change? |
| 19:36.42 | Mexa_ | I know, I was pointing that out just now:p |
| 19:37.05 | Deaod | actually, SupCom comes close to the goodness of SC2 in my mind. |
| 19:37.30 | TheBaron87 | yeah, SupCom1 was pretty damn awesome |
| 19:37.41 | Mexa_ | Yeah, and SupCom wasn't that interesting for me:> |
| 19:37.53 | TheBaron87 | Sins of a Solar Empire had the potential to be great, but the problem with all those games is balance :\ |
| 19:38.09 | Mexa_ | And Now I'll leave and play RCT |
| 19:38.12 | Nash|327 | WC3 was more fun than BW |
| 19:38.13 | Mexa_ | Later |
| 19:38.19 | TheBaron87 | ._. |
| 19:38.33 | JademusSreg | WC3 was awful. |
| 19:38.39 | TheBaron87 | well I guess if you're bad :D |
| 19:38.44 | JademusSreg | It had the virtue of being far more moddable. =D |
| 19:38.55 | Nash|327 | More RPG-like |
| 19:38.58 | Nash|327 | more fun |
| 19:39.01 | TheBaron87 | that has no effect on the actual game though |
| 19:39.17 | TheBaron87 | WC3 = melee, everything else comes in the WC3 box but it's not really WC3, just the engine |
| 19:39.17 | JademusSreg | Pathing was shit. Everything was slow, so goddamn slow. |
| 19:39.44 | Nash|327 | Fuck melee |
| 19:39.48 | Nash|327 | I don't play it. |
| 19:39.56 | Nash|327 | Only campaign. |
| 19:40.09 | Deaod | SC1 felt clunky, WC3 slighly less so, SC2 on the other hand feels very smooth |
| 19:40.18 | TheBaron87 | you know I didn't like SC1 melee until I understood it |
| 19:40.26 | JademusSreg | Nash is obsessed with RPGs and hates Japan. |
| 19:40.28 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:40.29 | TheBaron87 | I used to play custom only until like 2007-2008 |
| 19:40.47 | Nash|327 | Replace RPGs with kittuns. |
| 19:40.50 | TheBaron87 | then I learned how to play melee and I felt like the stupidest person in the world for not loving it |
| 19:41.38 | Nash|327 | Too much hysterical clicking. |
| 19:41.50 | TheBaron87 | >>hysterical :\ |
| 19:41.58 | TheBaron87 | there's your problem |
| 19:42.49 | Nash|327 | just annoying to manage units, defend base, build stuff, etc etc at the same time |
| 19:42.51 | Mexa_ | Jade, why didn't you like RCT btw? |
| 19:43.00 | JademusSreg | Some people click meaninglessly, and some people click a lot to warm up. By the clicks involved in playing melee are meaningful. A cerebral game with a physical dexterity component. |
| 19:43.29 | TheBaron87 | well anyway, I'm not just lurking for my own amusement. my mentor isn't around and I was wondering who's considered the biggest mover expert on mapster that's willing to help newbs. |
| 19:43.55 | JademusSreg | SC2 is mental and physical. Not being capable of the physical component is not grounds sufficient to say the game is bad. |
| 19:44.01 | TKC | http://boob-tube.eu/duke-nudem/ that'll help you train your clickskillz |
| 19:44.13 | JademusSreg | Prozaic Muse, data expert. |
| 19:44.25 | stewox | TKC |
| 19:44.31 | stewox | i linked that too yesterday |
| 19:44.35 | stewox | doubt anyone seen it |
| 19:44.41 | stewox | but it's hilarous |
| 19:44.44 | Nash|327 | It is if the criteria for liking the game include lack of such components. |
| 19:44.45 | TKC | ^^ |
| 19:44.50 | Mexa_ | Jademus, asnwer please:p |
| 19:44.55 | Mexa_ | *answer |
| 19:45.00 | JademusSreg | RCT? |
| 19:45.13 | Mexa_ | rollecoaster you know. |
| 19:45.16 | Mexa_ | :> |
| 19:45.17 | JademusSreg | Oh. |
| 19:45.18 | Mexa_ | *r |
| 19:45.22 | JademusSreg | Boring. |
| 19:45.36 | Mexa_ | Not into the casual sim style of gaming? |
| 19:45.45 | JademusSreg | Not even a little. |
| 19:45.52 | Mexa_ | Fair enough |
| 19:46.34 | JademusSreg | It might be the best game of its genre, but I don't have the requisite experience to pass that sort of judgement on it. I just know I don't like it because I find it boring. |
| 19:46.36 | Mexa_ | pff... I want TLO's music playlist :| |
| 19:46.41 | Nash|327 | hysterical clicking is not fun, not as bad as retarded quicktime events but not something I particularly enjoy :G |
| 19:46.50 | JademusSreg | Yeah, TLO's playlight is potent. |
| 19:46.53 | JademusSreg | *playlist |
| 19:46.54 | HP-X|Arthas | TKC: how do i cheat |
| 19:47.01 | HP-X|Arthas | sucks to play that on a lappie :p |
| 19:47.04 | Mexa_ | what game has hysterical clicking? |
| 19:47.09 | Mexa_ | sc2 melee? |
| 19:47.11 | HP-X|Arthas | boob-tube one |
| 19:47.13 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 19:47.26 | Mexa_ | Called micro:p? |
| 19:47.31 | JademusSreg | "hysterical clicking" isn't intrinsic to the gameplay, Nash. |
| 19:48.14 | Nash|327 | manage craploads of stuff at the same time, jump around and click shit, MOAR APMZ LOL |
| 19:48.14 | TheBaron87 | it's the hysterical thing that's wrong |
| 19:48.21 | TheBaron87 | if you think it's hysterical then you're doing it wrong |
| 19:48.55 | JademusSreg | And to the people with the skill to click meaningful at such a rapid rate, it is not at all hysterical, but a meaningful sequence of actions corresponding to the will of the player. It's higher bandwidth. =) |
| 19:48.56 | stewox | also TKC that freaking shooter game is quite hard |
| 19:49.10 | stewox | just because FF keeps lagging for me (bugs) |
| 19:49.14 | Nash|327 | rapid rate = hysterical |
| 19:49.24 | TKC | yeah, last girl is pretty hard to beat |
| 19:49.32 | stewox | and because the image has a fukn drift when you hover pointer in the middle , it goes to side to side ... |
| 19:49.54 | TheBaron87 | yeah, if that's how you want to be then I give up |
| 19:49.55 | stewox | i just miss everything , totally lost my mind over the shotgun course |
| 19:50.37 | JademusSreg | "hysterical" refers to the condition afflicting a woman's uterus. |
| 19:50.42 | JademusSreg | http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=hysterical |
| 19:51.14 | TheBaron87 | indeed, hysteria meaning crazy actually comes from the way women act when they're pregnant. :P |
| 19:51.26 | JademusSreg | Yes, something like that. =D |
| 19:52.02 | JademusSreg | Neurotic perhaps? No, the clicking involved in highlevel SC2 play is not neurotic. |
| 19:52.15 | Nash|327 | stressful |
| 19:52.18 | JademusSreg | Neurotic is worrying aobut the mortality of your workers. |
| 19:52.22 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:52.34 | Nash|327 | FUCKING ANNOYING |
| 19:52.50 | JademusSreg | Hahaha. |
| 19:53.26 | Nash|327 | I don't react well to stress. |
| 19:53.31 | JademusSreg | An ability to play the game is not a fault against it. =D |
| 19:53.36 | JademusSreg | *inability |
| 19:53.44 | JademusSreg | Either way, I suppose. |
| 19:53.52 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 19:53.58 | Nash|327 | How you play it affects if you like it or not. |
| 19:54.02 | TheBaron87 | yeah, you could fault it for having a poor learning curve |
| 19:54.14 | TheBaron87 | but SC2's challenges are more than enough to get you to gold |
| 19:54.50 | TheBaron87 | Nash, I can definitely support that from personal experience with BW. I was awful and avoided melee |
| 19:55.10 | TheBaron87 | Once you decide to go back and learn the game it completely 180s and becomes amazing |
| 19:55.20 | Mexa_ | I fail miserably on pretty much all of the sc2 challenges :/ |
| 19:55.22 | Nash|327 | I'll pass. |
| 19:55.37 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
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| 19:55.39 | Mexa_ | Only got about 5 gold, and a few silver and the rest bronze |
| 19:55.41 | TheBaron87 | lol, your loss |
| 19:55.44 | Nash|327 | I have no interest in learning to play melee. |
| 19:55.45 | Mexa_ | My micro slips |
| 19:55.46 | TheBaron87 | if you were past me I'd slap you |
| 19:55.54 | TheBaron87 | just wait a few years |
| 19:55.57 | TheBaron87 | you'll come back |
| 19:56.23 | Nash|327 | as if |
| 19:56.55 | Nash|327 | Takes me about 15 minutes to make my mind up. |
| 19:57.06 | JademusSreg | Naw, Nash isn't interested, that won't change. |
| 19:57.15 | JademusSreg | It's no big deal. |
| 19:57.25 | Nash|327 | After that, I either stop playing altogether or finish the game, maybe even replay it. |
| 19:57.31 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 19:59.33 | Nash|327 | RPG for the win. |
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| 20:07.52 | Dresnia | Mexa_ |
| 20:08.00 | Dresnia | micro is a mith untill your in master league |
| 20:08.11 | Dresnia | it's all about scouting&countering and having a beast macro |
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| 20:09.06 | UloseTheGame | Anyone here? |
| 20:09.10 | UloseTheGame | http://us.battle.net:80/sc2/en/forum/topic/2549105769 |
| 20:09.16 | Dresnia | Ofcourse focusing firing a collosus or blinking weak stalkers back is handy |
| 20:09.20 | Dresnia | but isn't a must |
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| 20:10.31 | UloseTheGame | Hey Jade |
| 20:10.35 | UloseTheGame | http://us.battle.net:80/sc2/en/forum/topic/2549105769 |
| 20:10.45 | UloseTheGame | check that out ^ |
| 20:10.51 | JademusSreg | Lookin. |
| 20:10.52 | Dresnia | SO |
| 20:10.59 | Dresnia | You say stuff about something you don't do yourself |
| 20:11.04 | Dresnia | That's amazing :O |
| 20:11.41 | UloseTheGame | Dres, i took responsibility for that I do the same thing |
| 20:13.16 | Dresnia | I agree on your post though, but that opening line is going to make people go like 'ugh' |
| 20:13.20 | UloseTheGame | So Jade, what do you think |
| 20:13.47 | UloseTheGame | Dresnia, i said that because i didn't want people to confuse it with trolling |
| 20:14.14 | Dresnia | Hmm |
| 20:14.30 | Dresnia | The issue is, as I told 20 times, it's too early for masterpieces |
| 20:14.45 | Dresnia | Melee players want the occasional brainless nexus wars fun untill they realise they suck at melee |
| 20:14.52 | JademusSreg | It's a mixed bag. I concur with most of it. Other parts are silly. Some parts are just ambiguous. |
| 20:15.00 | JademusSreg | But it needed to be said, in any case. |
| 20:15.02 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 20:15.15 | UloseTheGame | :D |
| 20:16.40 | UloseTheGame | I wanted to explain that people's blame of the popularity list holds no water |
| 20:16.43 | UloseTheGame | it's a lazy claim |
| 20:16.59 | Nash|327 | you are wrong and smell bad |
| 20:17.10 | UloseTheGame | I degressed severely during that post |
| 20:17.18 | UloseTheGame | Nash, i do smell bad, BO FTW! |
| 20:17.25 | UloseTheGame | but it works |
| 20:18.24 | JademusSreg | Most maps are terrible, most mappers do not understand how to use the editor competently and attempt to implement poor designs. The popularity system is villified mostly by people who make shitty maps, and is otherwise criticized for other selfish or pointlessly nostalgic reasons. |
| 20:19.03 | Nash|327 | the problem is the catch 22 element of it |
| 20:19.04 | JademusSreg | It's hardly perfect, but Blizzard has made attempts to rectify this. Yes, you aptly described it as a scapegoat. |
| 20:19.23 | JademusSreg | Not a catch 22, Nash. It's a positive feedback loop. |
| 20:19.40 | UloseTheGame | yep, it is a scapegoat |
| 20:19.45 | Nash|327 | I don't find "you're just mad because you suck" a convincing case for something. |
| 20:20.21 | JademusSreg | Not convincing of anything, no, and it is almost certain to enflame. But I think it is an accurate characterization. |
| 20:20.36 | Nash|327 | Smells like ad hominem to me. |
| 20:21.23 | JademusSreg | Arguments to the person are not themselves logical fallacies; it depends on the person's relevance to the argument. |
| 20:21.54 | UloseTheGame | Nash, i made a civil post, however |
| 20:21.56 | UloseTheGame | http://us.battle.net:80/sc2/en/forum/topic/2549105769 |
| 20:22.25 | UloseTheGame | Remember when mephs said "you're all crying cause you're bad?" |
| 20:23.09 | UloseTheGame | he was closer to the truth in that one troll statement, than all the whiners about the popularity system are with their "ideas" |
| 20:24.25 | Nash|327 | That's like, your opinion, man. |
| 20:24.45 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 20:25.40 | UloseTheGame | Fine, post your concerns in my thread |
| 20:25.45 | UloseTheGame | let's get a discussion going |
| 20:25.55 | Nash|327 | I don't have a US account. |
| 20:26.01 | Nash|327 | So, negative. |
| 20:26.12 | UloseTheGame | D: |
| 20:26.19 | UloseTheGame | I'll bring to EU |
| 20:27.06 | Nash|327 | spreading your filth across continents D: |
| 20:28.38 | stewox | yeah haha win nash XD |
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| 20:29.01 | stewox | i was just thinking about ... who the heck would debate american topic in EU :P |
| 20:29.07 | stewox | or |
| 20:29.12 | stewox | am i totally sensles and wrong |
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| 20:29.25 | stewox | this is about SC2Debates map right ? |
| 20:29.31 | stewox | i think i seen it |
| 20:29.31 | Ashamed | oh man |
| 20:29.33 | Nash|327 | negative |
| 20:29.34 | JademusSreg | Haha. Stew, are you talking about Debates? |
| 20:29.37 | Ashamed | we best not be talking about devates |
| 20:29.45 | Ashamed | debates* |
| 20:29.46 | stewox | that was something about banned stuff going on , ... |
| 20:30.04 | stewox | no i was looking at the last msgs |
| 20:30.24 | stewox | seen the links , and i think the Ulosethegame ... didn't u create sc2debates |
| 20:30.42 | JademusSreg | Debates: A social game for antisocial people in need of validation. =D |
| 20:30.43 | stewox | or what |
| 20:30.46 | JademusSreg | I jest. |
| 20:31.03 | stewox | is Debates that NASH was referring to ? |
| 20:31.11 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 20:31.17 | stewox | because it was really funny :P |
| 20:31.21 | JademusSreg | It was entertaining the one match I played typing in urban slang. |
| 20:31.47 | Ashamed | lol |
| 20:31.54 | stewox | ULTG said he'll bring it to EU ... was he talking about SC2Debates ? |
| 20:31.55 | JademusSreg | I won, too. |
| 20:31.55 | Ashamed | i would never ever want to debate on a game |
| 20:31.58 | Nash|327 | must debate more |
| 20:32.01 | Ashamed | ................. what is the point |
| 20:32.10 | Ashamed | if you wanna go debate.. go change the world |
| 20:32.13 | Ashamed | dont play sc2 |
| 20:32.30 | stewox | anybody seen my question ? |
| 20:32.50 | stewox | im not sure though but it seemd like it |
| 20:33.02 | stewox | but i never really saw ... because im on EU |
| 20:33.23 | Ashamed | um i thought the maker of debates was EU |
| 20:33.23 | stewox | so i don't have idea about the game anyways other than some topics |
| 20:33.33 | Ashamed | i mean when i watched him talk about it |
| 20:33.46 | Ashamed | he had an accent of some sort |
| 20:34.04 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 20:34.14 | stewox | the popularity system was fucked up |
| 20:34.18 | stewox | so that's without a doubt |
| 20:34.39 | stewox | until 1.3 popularity was basically nonexistant in any practical way |
| 20:35.16 | Nash|327 | needs to let you filter out maps nobody is in lobby for |
| 20:35.17 | stewox | accent ? |
| 20:35.19 | stewox | of what ? |
| 20:35.27 | Nash|327 | needs to have more options for type of map |
| 20:35.51 | Nash|327 | needs a way to give some publicity to newly released or updated maps |
| 20:36.11 | stewox | anyways |
| 20:36.15 | stewox | let him have his fun |
| 20:36.32 | Ashamed | i am bored |
| 20:36.41 | stewox | tralalala |
| 20:36.48 | stewox | bored |
| 20:36.59 | stewox | well |
| 20:37.04 | UloseTheGame | Okay I'm confused...is everyone here...trolling me? |
| 20:37.06 | JademusSreg | Duncare. Work on a map, Ash. =D |
| 20:37.06 | UloseTheGame | http://us.battle.net:80/sc2/en/forum/topic/2549105769 |
| 20:37.08 | stewox | if you mod SC2 for too long |
| 20:37.28 | Ashamed | i cant |
| 20:37.28 | stewox | you can get ... bored |
| 20:37.29 | Ashamed | i am at work |
| 20:37.46 | Ashamed | and i have not worked on a map in a while lol |
| 20:37.46 | JademusSreg | Ash, make your map design. |
| 20:37.52 | UloseTheGame | is someone here accrediting debates to me...rather than Rodrigo? |
| 20:37.54 | JademusSreg | Implement later. |
| 20:38.05 | UloseTheGame | Rodrigo's definitely been gone too long -_- |
| 20:38.32 | stewox | sometimes ... if it look too long for something and cant figure it out ... im just done for the day , can't stand it more or i get into lazy mode which is not good way of life :P ... excessive playing is ... not exactly great |
| 20:38.35 | Ashamed | what map design? |
| 20:39.09 | JademusSreg | Ash, are you not familiar with designing? =D |
| 20:39.13 | Ashamed | i am |
| 20:39.22 | Ashamed | but the way i read that.. it seemed like i gave you an idea of mine |
| 20:39.26 | Ashamed | and you wanted me to go create it |
| 20:39.30 | stewox | Rodrigo made sc2debates? |
| 20:39.34 | JademusSreg | Oh ahahaha, nope. |
| 20:39.41 | Ashamed | ok i was just confused |
| 20:39.43 | JademusSreg | Yeah, Rodrigo made Debates. |
| 20:39.53 | JademusSreg | He never stops talking about Debates. |
| 20:39.55 | Dresnia | OK GUYS |
| 20:39.55 | Ashamed | you guy sever play Final Fantasy Forever on war3? |
| 20:39.56 | stewox | i though you were all talking about ULTG |
| 20:39.56 | Dresnia | tell me |
| 20:40.00 | Mexa_ | lols, TLO listening on potc theme :> |
| 20:40.01 | Dresnia | who the hell is Rodrigo |
| 20:40.03 | Nash|327 | KITTUNS |
| 20:40.07 | Mexa_ | I like. |
| 20:40.08 | Ashamed | a n00b |
| 20:40.10 | Dresnia | Causse all he did imo is make junk |
| 20:40.17 | JademusSreg | All wc3 maps were terrible. =D |
| 20:40.17 | Dresnia | So why do I hear his name all the time lol |
| 20:40.19 | stewox | but i wasn't trolling , since i never played debates i can't comment on it |
| 20:40.29 | stewox | so yeah |
| 20:40.32 | Ashamed | lol |
| 20:40.34 | Ashamed | ....... because we make fun of him all the time |
| 20:40.46 | stewox | nobody answered this |
| 20:41.16 | stewox | ULTG said he'll bring it to EU ... was he talking about SC2Debates ? |
| 20:41.41 | JademusSreg | Yes, ostensibly. |
| 20:41.45 | stewox | nash|327 |
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| 20:41.54 | JademusSreg | He went on about it at great length. |
| 20:42.00 | JademusSreg | For like a month. |
| 20:42.02 | jonanin | how can I remove clos spawn positions from a amap? |
| 20:42.15 | stewox | clos ? |
| 20:42.24 | Ashamed | why are we talking about DEBATES |
| 20:42.26 | JademusSreg | Map -> second half of the menu. |
| 20:42.27 | Ashamed | i am bored |
| 20:42.31 | Ashamed | i didn't say please bore me more |
| 20:42.36 | Mexa_ | Yay, IPL qualifier matches in 1h20min |
| 20:42.36 | stewox | I DON?T KNOW ... NASH WAS |
| 20:42.44 | stewox | nash|327 |
| 20:42.45 | JademusSreg | Ash, are you gonna make SC2 maps? =D |
| 20:42.48 | stewox | nash|327 |
| 20:42.51 | stewox | ULTG said he'll bring it to EU ... was he talking about SC2Debates ? |
| 20:43.20 | stewox | What were you talking about when you said """spreading your filth across continents D: """ |
| 20:43.20 | UloseTheGame | Stewox...the answer to your question can be found in the newest post on the EU forums http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2123513230?page=1#0 |
| 20:43.30 | Mexa_ | Omg guys... I am going to burn a CD now |
| 20:43.51 | Ashamed | jade i can not make any sc2 map currently |
| 20:43.53 | Ashamed | because i am at work |
| 20:43.59 | JademusSreg | Not the point. |
| 20:44.09 | JademusSreg | I mean do you intend to make SC2 maps in the near future? |
| 20:44.25 | Ashamed | of course I intend too.. i have like 20 maps started lol |
| 20:44.34 | JademusSreg | Alright. Work on the design at work. |
| 20:44.40 | JademusSreg | Implement the design when you get home. |
| 20:44.43 | Ashamed | but will I... thats the question |
| 20:44.52 | Ashamed | i do that sometimes i have so many notepads of just ideas of mine lol |
| 20:44.56 | JademusSreg | Duncare if you do or don't. Sincerely. |
| 20:45.02 | Ashamed | me neither :) |
| 20:45.06 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 20:45.20 | jonanin | can you help me a little bit further, I'm unsure of how th team placement thing works :( |
| 20:45.34 | JademusSreg | I guess I can open the editor. =D |
| 20:45.56 | Dresnia | JADE |
| 20:46.01 | Dresnia | That's a dissapointment |
| 20:46.02 | Ashamed | i have sc2 on my work pc.. but it doesn't run it very good |
| 20:46.05 | Dresnia | It should be open 24/7 |
| 20:46.08 | Ashamed | and i can't really test maps |
| 20:46.17 | Nash|327 | smelly |
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| 20:46.32 | Ashamed | -woof |
| 20:46.43 | JademusSreg | Map -> Team Placement |
| 20:47.00 | JademusSreg | jonaninaninaninanainananinainiiana |
| 20:47.05 | JademusSreg | That's where it's done. |
| 20:47.44 | jonanin | right |
| 20:47.50 | jonanin | I see how it is done for, say, 2v2 |
| 20:47.53 | UloseTheGame_ | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2123513230 |
| 20:47.57 | Ashamed | so how do you think a movement system like this would feel.. ( Pretty much like diablo ) but you need to reclick on differnt directions to move there.. But if you hold down the mouse button it will continue to go in the direction you clicked? |
| 20:48.09 | Ashamed | i am trying to think of a good movement system that wont effect latency/lag |
| 20:48.13 | jonanin | but I how do I make it so that if in 1v1, player 1 is at SL 001, player 2 CAN'T be at SL 002? |
| 20:48.20 | JademusSreg | Naw, need to track mouse position Ash. |
| 20:48.28 | Ashamed | :( |
| 20:48.31 | Ashamed | but that is lag |
| 20:48.35 | JademusSreg | A bit. |
| 20:48.45 | UloseTheGame_ | Actually, jade, i was wondering |
| 20:48.58 | UloseTheGame_ | how the fuck did you make zero lag on your mouse track? |
| 20:48.59 | Ashamed | if i made a 6 player rpg with all mouse position |
| 20:49.04 | JademusSreg | Ash, you could do it your way, it would just be a bit clunky. |
| 20:49.06 | Ashamed | you dont think it would start getting mad? |
| 20:49.13 | JademusSreg | Ulose, easily. |
| 20:49.25 | Ashamed | i already did it.. its not clunky.. i mean it for sure more annoying then just using the mouse movement |
| 20:49.27 | JademusSreg | I enabled relative camera and just get camera yaw. |
| 20:49.38 | Ashamed | yeah i was thinking that |
| 20:49.39 | JademusSreg | I don't even use the mouse movement shit. |
| 20:49.40 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 20:49.52 | UloseTheGame_ | I mean |
| 20:49.56 | UloseTheGame_ | for movements |
| 20:50.11 | UloseTheGame_ | your cycle doesn't move |
| 20:50.16 | UloseTheGame_ | i mean |
| 20:50.17 | UloseTheGame_ | it move |
| 20:50.20 | Ashamed | but that system i created causes little to none.. because all it needs to find is the mouse click |
| 20:50.21 | UloseTheGame_ | without lag |
| 20:50.26 | Ashamed | thats it |
| 20:50.50 | Ashamed | and then it just continues the unit until you release the mouse |
| 20:51.16 | JademusSreg | The camera yaw is updated exactly 16 times per game second, and the main loop executes 32 times per game second. |
| 20:51.29 | Ashamed | for every player? |
| 20:51.33 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 20:51.35 | Ashamed | oh |
| 20:51.37 | Ashamed | that works fine then |
| 20:51.44 | JademusSreg | Single thread, iterated. |
| 20:51.45 | Ashamed | that shouldn't be a problem |
| 20:51.48 | JademusSreg | Wait 0. |
| 20:51.55 | JademusSreg | Simple stuff. |
| 20:52.35 | Ashamed | oh so i could pretty much make a wasd system but take out wasd and just use mouse click / camera yaw |
| 20:52.37 | JademusSreg | I wish camera yaw was update more than 16 times per second, but that's not doable; it's an engine limitation. |
| 20:52.40 | Ashamed | and that would cause pretty much nothing |
| 20:52.46 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 20:52.49 | UloseTheGame_ | jade, do you know why my screen flips out for my RPG when i try to lock the camera to a unit |
| 20:53.12 | JademusSreg | Ulose, maaaybe. I'd need to see it. |
| 20:53.19 | UloseTheGame_ | what's your hunch? |
| 20:53.22 | UloseTheGame_ | real quick |
| 20:53.23 | JademusSreg | I'm busy now though. |
| 20:53.29 | JademusSreg | Alright, I'll guess. |
| 20:53.46 | JademusSreg | Pan camera conflicting with follow unit group. |
| 20:53.51 | Ashamed | yeah cameras suck.. right now i am trying to make a camera follow a unit into the z-plane |
| 20:53.54 | Ashamed | pain in the ass |
| 20:54.05 | Ashamed | i almost have it though :) |
| 20:54.11 | JademusSreg | I had that problem in ther development of Photon Cycles. Took me a day or two to fix that shit. |
| 20:54.26 | Ashamed | follow unit to z plane? |
| 20:54.31 | Dresnia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ6zr6kCPj8 5.25 |
| 20:54.31 | Ashamed | or what ulose said? |
| 20:54.35 | Dresnia | that's dope. |
| 20:55.51 | JademusSreg | Ulose, can you describe the camera "flip out" specifically? |
| 20:56.42 | JademusSreg | My next guess is that you are using a camerainfo, Target true. |
| 20:56.47 | UloseTheGame_ | okay |
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| 20:56.53 | UloseTheGame_ | I think you are right |
| 20:56.57 | JademusSreg | I don't use camerainfos for the default view. |
| 20:56.57 | UloseTheGame_ | cause i reset the camera |
| 20:56.57 | Mexa | damn you irc |
| 20:57.19 | UloseTheGame_ | k i'll see ya guys later |
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| 20:57.42 | Brainshack | hi everybody |
| 20:57.54 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 20:58.17 | Brainshack | did anybody ever get this thing here to work? http://www.galaxywiki.net/wiki/Detecting_units_in_line |
| 20:59.15 | JademusSreg | I never look at that stuff. Couldn't you set the Arc on the behavior to do it? |
| 20:59.35 | Brainshack | its such a small piece of code and i cant get it running |
| 20:59.49 | Brainshack | still wandering what -Sin and -Cos are? |
| 20:59.52 | Brainshack | wondering |
| 21:00.01 | JademusSreg | Detecting? I thought detection was refering to radar shit. |
| 21:00.14 | JademusSreg | You want to get a unit group for units in a line, yeah? |
| 21:00.31 | Brainshack | yeah sort of tracline stuff but this page told me that traceline stuff is bad |
| 21:00.46 | JademusSreg | Fuck what other people think. |
| 21:01.00 | Brainshack | well it seemed logaical to me |
| 21:01.10 | JademusSreg | I'll take a look at what is on that page. |
| 21:01.56 | Brainshack | i get the point what this is supposed to do but im not so good in maths so its freaking me out a bit |
| 21:02.26 | Brainshack | and since i dont find all the triggers used there my code is really messed up xD |
| 21:03.08 | JademusSreg | -Cosine for the facing of attacker, and Sine for facing of attacker. Man, this shit is not generalized, but the basics are there. |
| 21:03.28 | Brainshack | i dont find -Cosine |
| 21:03.52 | JademusSreg | native fixed Sin (fixed degrees); |
| 21:03.52 | JademusSreg | native fixed Cos (fixed degrees); |
| 21:03.52 | JademusSreg | native fixed Tan (fixed degrees); |
| 21:04.07 | JademusSreg | These are native functions. |
| 21:04.38 | JademusSreg | To make it negative, you just put the - operator in front of it. =D |
| 21:04.38 | Brainshack | so? what about -cos -sine etc? |
| 21:04.54 | JademusSreg | Like if you had a bool. |
| 21:05.19 | JademusSreg | bool shit = true; bool notShit = !shit; |
| 21:05.20 | Brainshack | i cant do that in gui right? |
| 21:05.21 | JademusSreg | See? |
| 21:05.31 | JademusSreg | I don't use GUI, so I can't tell ya. |
| 21:05.49 | JademusSreg | But GUI can accomplish nearly anything galaxy can. |
| 21:05.52 | Brainshack | too abd |
| 21:05.59 | JademusSreg | You just gotta find it. |
| 21:06.01 | Brainshack | mah |
| 21:06.06 | JademusSreg | Naw, I use galaxy script. |
| 21:06.13 | JademusSreg | Not too bad for me. =D |
| 21:06.46 | Brainshack | sure, but since im a noob in mapping its a little bit nasty to figure that out |
| 21:06.47 | Brainshack | :P |
| 21:07.00 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 21:07.28 | Brainshack | i dont even know how i could edit the source directly^^ |
| 21:07.30 | JademusSreg | Those are excuses. If you're commited, you learn. =D |
| 21:08.08 | JademusSreg | For example, to write in Custom Script, right click in the trigger module, New -> New Custom Script. |
| 21:08.13 | Brainshack | is there a good ide or stuff like this for galaxy? |
| 21:08.22 | JademusSreg | No good IDE yet. |
| 21:08.32 | Brainshack | *aigh* |
| 21:08.37 | JademusSreg | But. |
| 21:09.06 | JademusSreg | If you save a map as SC2Components, it will unravel the map contents and directory. |
| 21:09.16 | JademusSreg | And you can modify files without need to import. |
| 21:09.23 | Brainshack | the good thing about gui is that it is easy to find stuff which you dont know if it really exists |
| 21:09.36 | JademusSreg | When it's ready to publish, just save it as a map again and bam, wraps it all back up. |
| 21:09.53 | Brainshack | but is still testable like a map |
| 21:09.55 | Brainshack | ? |
| 21:10.03 | JademusSreg | Sure, GUI is good for people who don't know the native API. |
| 21:10.07 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 21:10.28 | Brainshack | and works for mods? |
| 21:10.35 | JademusSreg | It still behaves as a map in every meaningful way, except it can't be published until it's saved as a map/mod |
| 21:10.39 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 21:10.44 | *** part/#sc2mapster TKC (~The_Kc@p508AE006.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:11.00 | JademusSreg | SC2Compinents is your friend if you have a sizable project. |
| 21:11.05 | JademusSreg | *Components |
| 21:11.20 | Brainshack | sounds good |
| 21:11.42 | Brainshack | you say there is no good ide yet, but are there any editors that can do code completion and highlighting and stuff like this? |
| 21:13.20 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 21:13.29 | Brainshack | which would be?^^ |
| 21:13.33 | JademusSreg | I use grim's galaxy language definition for np++. |
| 21:13.46 | JademusSreg | There is also a stand alone editor called galaxy++. |
| 21:14.06 | jonanin | everything in my editor is tripled - like when i dew new even every category is listed 3 times, anyone else get this problem? |
| 21:14.14 | Brainshack | so how did you learn it? |
| 21:14.28 | Brainshack | jonanin: yeah my stuff display double |
| 21:14.33 | JademusSreg | Brain, I started learning during beta. |
| 21:14.49 | JademusSreg | I looked at map scripts, then later at the native API. |
| 21:15.13 | JademusSreg | You can find the most current galaxy API from the latest patch mpq. |
| 21:15.56 | JademusSreg | I have natives.galaxy, Game.galaxy, NativeLib.galaxy and LibertyLib.galaxy open for reference, even though I also have autocomplete. |
| 21:16.23 | Brainshack | so i need to extract those file from the mpq file? |
| 21:16.26 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 21:16.38 | Brainshack | and then i can add them to n++? |
| 21:16.51 | JademusSreg | I extract all the galaxy files and all the xml files for reference. =) |
| 21:17.04 | JademusSreg | You can opern them in np++. |
| 21:17.20 | JademusSreg | I suggest getting grim001's galaxy definition for np++. |
| 21:17.43 | Brainshack | i'll give it a shot |
| 21:18.03 | JademusSreg | jon, I don't have duplicate entries. Might be a dependency bug. |
| 21:18.15 | Brainshack | Unit in Range |
| 21:18.26 | Brainshack | this tutorial is so confusing |
| 21:18.31 | JademusSreg | I'm guessing you have Liberty, Liberty Multi, and Campaign dependencies. |
| 21:18.32 | Brainshack | i didnt find this one either |
| 21:18.46 | JademusSreg | And an entry for each one, amirite? |
| 21:19.19 | JademusSreg | Brain, that's pseudocode, so it probably only roughly translates to galaxy or GUI. |
| 21:19.38 | Brainshack | what doesnt make it easier to reproduce^^ |
| 21:20.03 | jonanin | which ones shold I have? |
| 21:20.51 | JademusSreg | jon, depends on what you need. I find this dependency bug amusing, and I haven't encountered it myself. |
| 21:21.02 | jonanin | Also... |
| 21:21.03 | JademusSreg | Maybe it's not a bug, but is a View option on the data. |
| 21:21.09 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 21:21.09 | jonanin | why does the blizzard custom map system suck so much! |
| 21:21.37 | jonanin | hosts can't even kick people from lobbies |
| 21:21.41 | jonanin | and the games auto start when it's full |
| 21:21.41 | JademusSreg | Complaints are useless, action is the only currency here. =D |
| 21:21.45 | Helral|nAfk | meow |
| 21:21.49 | jonanin | and the only maps played are like the top 10 most popular |
| 21:22.01 | jonanin | action, eh? |
| 21:22.09 | jonanin | give me an example of some type of action that would be useful in this situation |
| 21:22.26 | JademusSreg | Making a map worth playing. =D |
| 21:22.33 | jonanin | How does that help? |
| 21:22.40 | jonanin | It won't change blizzard's crap system |
| 21:22.47 | jonanin | I can't even name the teams like in SC:BW |
| 21:22.52 | JademusSreg | It's better than complaining, haha. I jest, partially. |
| 21:23.02 | jonanin | my map is 2v2, but the first and second player have different roles |
| 21:23.12 | JademusSreg | Really, the best action you can take in that regard is to attempt to organize people. |
| 21:23.16 | jonanin | but it's not apparent with jus t"Team 1" and "Team 2" |
| 21:23.31 | JademusSreg | Organized, vocal protest is necessary for change. |
| 21:23.41 | Helral|nAfk | jonanin: use player attributes to let the players pick their role per team? |
| 21:23.41 | Nash|327 | that's when you take a dump on the lobby and make in game dialog UI |
| 21:23.46 | Nash|327 | ;G |
| 21:23.56 | JademusSreg | Yeah! |
| 21:24.02 | jonanin | in BW I could name the team "P1: Role 1 P2: Role 2" |
| 21:24.02 | jonanin | etc |
| 21:24.05 | Helral|nAfk | or handle it ingame ;p |
| 21:24.10 | JademusSreg | I say fuck the lobby. It is disappoint. |
| 21:24.34 | jonanin | Hm, how would I handle that in game? |
| 21:24.39 | JademusSreg | Dialogs. |
| 21:24.41 | jonanin | Right. |
| 21:24.47 | jonanin | Let the host assign roles? |
| 21:24.52 | JademusSreg | Dialogs. |
| 21:24.54 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 21:25.04 | JademusSreg | Anyone have a link to a dialog tutorial? |
| 21:25.10 | jonanin | I know about dialogs. |
| 21:25.11 | Nash|327 | let people pick roles? |
| 21:25.20 | jonanin | Nash|327: and if 3 ppl want the same one? |
| 21:25.31 | Nash|327 | then randomize it? |
| 21:25.37 | jonanin | This is why lobbies in WC3 and BW were awesome. You just let people move around until they were happy |
| 21:25.39 | Nash|327 | or first come first served? |
| 21:25.44 | JademusSreg | Do you want people to pick the same roles? |
| 21:25.47 | jonanin | and the host could actually control when the game started so ppl had time to do it |
| 21:25.50 | JademusSreg | Rather, to be able? |
| 21:25.53 | Dustin|Alt | Psha |
| 21:26.02 | Dustin|Alt | I use the default lobby as 1 team |
| 21:26.10 | Dustin|Alt | then I have my own ingame lobby dialogs to select shit |
| 21:27.03 | jonanin | JademusSreg: it's a port of the Macro Micro maps from BW |
| 21:27.09 | jonanin | each team has 1 micro player and 1 macro player |
| 21:27.12 | jonanin | it's very specific. |
| 21:27.31 | JademusSreg | Neato. Maybe it won't be terrible like every other UMS on SC1. |
| 21:27.45 | jonanin | so ppl can't just pick their roles |
| 21:27.59 | Nash|327 | 5 buttons |
| 21:28.02 | jonanin | in SC:BW it would take 2 seconds to set up a lobby with those constraints, and it would just work. |
| 21:28.02 | Brainshack | JademusSreg: do i have to put all code in one file? |
| 21:28.14 | JademusSreg | Anyway, dialogs are magic, and it is incumbent upon you to become the wizard. |
| 21:28.28 | jonanin | Nash|327: and what if 2 ppl want to be on the same team cuz they're friends? |
| 21:28.34 | JademusSreg | Brain, nope. Using SC2Components method, you are allowed to use #include statement. |
| 21:28.45 | Nash|327 | Team 1: [Macro] [Micro] |
| 21:28.47 | Brainshack | sweet |
| 21:28.50 | Nash|327 | Team 2: [Macro] [Micro] |
| 21:29.30 | Nash|327 | and 1 or more "no slot" buttons |
| 21:29.37 | Nash|327 | click a buton, take up a slot |
| 21:29.48 | Brainshack | libDE022E1F_gv_rotationAngle thats kind hard to read xD |
| 21:29.54 | JademusSreg | Brain, for reference, and this is important, the include statement simply inserts the contents of the entire included script file into the including script. |
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| 21:30.06 | JademusSreg | Brain, yeagh, don't bother to look at those. |
| 21:30.08 | jonanin | also, galaxy++ is the way to go |
| 21:30.16 | jonanin | it fixes alot of the obvious problems with galaxy |
| 21:30.19 | jonanin | in addition to just being an IDE |
| 21:30.29 | JademusSreg | No thanks. |
| 21:30.36 | jonanin | Why? |
| 21:30.41 | Nash|327 | and you could handle it by waiting until all players press ready |
| 21:30.56 | JademusSreg | I'll use vanilla until a language extension worth my attention is released. |
| 21:31.05 | jonanin | Lol. |
| 21:31.08 | jonanin | Have you looked at the changes? |
| 21:31.10 | jonanin | they're fine |
| 21:31.16 | JademusSreg | I had hoped cosmos, then grape, then andromeda would be it, but they have all perished. |
| 21:31.30 | jonanin | No idea what those are lol |
| 21:31.57 | jonanin | So i went to Dependencies on my map and I have Liberty and Liberty Multi |
| 21:31.59 | jonanin | do I need both? |
| 21:32.31 | JademusSreg | Do you want your map to use melee values? |
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| 21:33.02 | JademusSreg | Patch changes to melee are applied to Liberty Multi. |
| 21:33.08 | jonanin | My map is essentially 1v1 melee, except one player control all buidlings and workers, and units built by that palyer is transferred to the other player on his team |
| 21:33.24 | jonanin | yes, then |
| 21:33.34 | Ashamed | oh i played a map like that on sc |
| 21:33.37 | jonanin | althoguh that doesn't explain why everything is dispalyed THREE times |
| 21:33.39 | Ashamed | i dont remeber what it was called |
| 21:33.44 | jonanin | Ashamed: Macro Micro? |
| 21:33.50 | Ashamed | i dunno lol |
| 21:33.53 | Ashamed | it could of been |
| 21:33.58 | Ashamed | it was well over 5 years ago |
| 21:33.59 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:34.02 | jonanin | :) |
| 21:34.37 | Dustin|Alt | Anyone wanna hop on US bnet and play some mineralz |
| 21:34.39 | jonanin | It worked will in BW since both macro and micro were much harder given the same skill level, I dunno if it will work as well in SC2 since micro isn't nearly as hard |
| 21:34.59 | Ashamed | jade and not every map was bad on sc1 |
| 21:35.14 | Ashamed | ... if you followed like legit map creators we made some crazh shit for sc :) |
| 21:35.20 | Dustin|Alt | Fuck ya we did |
| 21:35.26 | Ashamed | we had death counters |
| 21:35.27 | JademusSreg | Perhaps not. Every map I played was goddamn awful, though. |
| 21:35.27 | Ashamed | fucken grids |
| 21:35.35 | Ashamed | the maps on bw were all mostly mad |
| 21:35.40 | jonanin | The best map I played was one that made fireworks with unit deaths! |
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| 21:35.44 | Ashamed | but if you were part of a map making comunity |
| 21:35.46 | Dustin|Alt | I was throwing switches and death counters at the fucking walls I was making shit so badass and fast |
| 21:35.56 | Ashamed | yeah me too dustin |
| 21:35.57 | grenegg | Okay.... I STILL dont get catalog get feild values |
| 21:36.02 | Ashamed | i fucken had spells that would circle your unit |
| 21:36.03 | grenegg | who wants to help! |
| 21:36.06 | Ashamed | and then shoot forward and shit |
| 21:36.13 | Helral|nAfk | what you dont get? |
| 21:36.15 | Ashamed | all with grids :) |
| 21:36.23 | Dustin|Alt | fuck ya |
| 21:36.27 | jonanin | And locations. |
| 21:36.28 | JademusSreg | Correction. I played some alright campaigns. =D |
| 21:36.28 | Ashamed | by creating 9 units really fast around your guy |
| 21:36.30 | jonanin | Locations EVERYWHERE |
| 21:36.33 | Ashamed | and then putting locations on all o them |
| 21:36.39 | Ashamed | of them* |
| 21:36.40 | JademusSreg | The public map scene was goddamned awful. |
| 21:36.51 | Ashamed | then makeing them disapear and then creating the spell effect |
| 21:36.55 | JademusSreg | But that's not really the fault of the community. |
| 21:36.56 | Ashamed | and if you wanted that to go forward |
| 21:37.00 | Ashamed | you would do that for each forward motion |
| 21:37.01 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:37.06 | JademusSreg | There were some great modders in the SC1 community. |
| 21:37.14 | JademusSreg | The tools and engine were just limited. |
| 21:37.14 | Ashamed | so create 9x units center location create 1 unit / kill |
| 21:37.19 | Ashamed | they were |
| 21:37.23 | Ashamed | but the people that could work around it |
| 21:37.27 | Ashamed | they made so good stuff |
| 21:37.28 | jonanin | so it is it possible to swap player's? So I can code for player 1 always being the macro player regardless of who selects it? |
| 21:37.29 | grenegg | uggs |
| 21:37.41 | Ashamed | like i knew what varables were for sc2 because i used death counters on sc 1 |
| 21:37.42 | JademusSreg | jon, alliance settings. |
| 21:37.48 | JademusSreg | They are your friend. |
| 21:37.51 | JademusSreg | Also, catalog. |
| 21:38.01 | JademusSreg | Catalogs can set values on a per player basis. |
| 21:38.12 | Ashamed | jonanin what issue are you having with giving controle to the other player? |
| 21:38.18 | Ashamed | doesn't seem like it should be too difficult to do |
| 21:38.21 | JademusSreg | *playergroup |
| 21:38.40 | Ashamed | dustin what was your user id on sc? |
| 21:38.55 | jonanin | donno what catalogs are :O |
| 21:39.06 | Ashamed | i am old school sc1 map maker.. i was in like the orginal Mp) and shit |
| 21:39.06 | TheBaron87 | arg, why can't there be more options for mover types other than missile? :( |
| 21:39.26 | TheBaron87 | I'm starting to think I'll have to program a new completely new one |
| 21:39.35 | JademusSreg | For instance, A Macro Micro 1v1 could be done easily by setting mutual shared control, then setting unit flag properties for the players which enable uncommandability. |
| 21:39.57 | Ashamed | or you can just give the units created to the correct player |
| 21:40.01 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 21:40.04 | JademusSreg | You can do that too. |
| 21:40.09 | Ashamed | you can have a trigger detect build of units |
| 21:40.13 | Dustin|Alt | Dustin.374 |
| 21:40.13 | Ashamed | and just give them all to the other player |
| 21:40.15 | jonanin | Ashamed: yep that's hwo the original sc:bw did it |
| 21:40.28 | jonanin | JademusSreg: so I can make it so, e.g., SCVs are not shared/ |
| 21:40.29 | Ashamed | yeah just do it that way on this one |
| 21:40.44 | Ashamed | i would just give the units away |
| 21:40.49 | jonanin | it would be easier to share units so that upgrades stayed more easily |
| 21:40.50 | Ashamed | no need of making a complicated share system |
| 21:40.56 | Dustin|Alt | I need to make a melee shared control mao |
| 21:40.57 | Dustin|Alt | mao |
| 21:40.58 | Ashamed | when you need to give every unit away besides scvs |
| 21:40.58 | Dustin|Alt | map |
| 21:41.06 | JademusSreg | Ash's way is simpler, mine is more sexy. |
| 21:41.09 | Dustin|Alt | Those were my fav in SC |
| 21:41.13 | jonanin | It's not simpler |
| 21:41.14 | Ashamed | oh yeah i suppose upgrades |
| 21:41.17 | jonanin | Because you have to ttransfer upgrades |
| 21:41.22 | Ashamed | but thats easy |
| 21:41.24 | JademusSreg | Oh, haha. |
| 21:41.26 | jonanin | and also, dropships |
| 21:41.26 | Ashamed | you could do that prob with one trigger too |
| 21:41.31 | JademusSreg | Still, Ash's is pretty simple. |
| 21:41.35 | JademusSreg | Mine is more robust. |
| 21:41.43 | jonanin | the original SC:BW map had beacons to give dropships back and forth |
| 21:41.46 | Ashamed | yeah i would only use jades if i knew i needed more controle of the share system |
| 21:41.51 | JademusSreg | And would permit more granularity. |
| 21:41.55 | Dustin|Alt | MINERALZ |
| 21:41.57 | jonanin | and you had to give minerals and gas to the micro player so they could morph units |
| 21:42.02 | jonanin | like hydra -> lurker |
| 21:42.05 | Dustin|Alt | Is god damn addicting for some reason |
| 21:42.10 | JademusSreg | Ya know, I feel like playing some SC2. |
| 21:42.10 | Ashamed | resource share |
| 21:42.27 | jonanin | can you let one player spend another's resources? |
| 21:42.38 | Dustin|Alt | Shared Resources |
| 21:42.42 | Dustin|Alt | I think thats in there |
| 21:42.45 | Ashamed | yeah it is |
| 21:42.46 | Dustin|Alt | I hope anyway |
| 21:42.57 | Ashamed | dustin what was your id on sc? |
| 21:43.00 | jonanin | Well, I like the sharec ontrol idea. |
| 21:43.03 | JademusSreg | Sometimes I wish I had a subordinate to handle scripting for me. =D |
| 21:43.25 | JademusSreg | Lately I've been less passionate about working on the update. |
| 21:43.33 | jonanin | what map do you make? |
| 21:43.37 | JademusSreg | Photon Cycles. |
| 21:43.46 | jonanin | wazzat |
| 21:43.47 | Ashamed | jade you still focusing on that shiz |
| 21:43.56 | Ashamed | what more you adding to it? |
| 21:44.02 | JademusSreg | Ash, stuff. |
| 21:44.08 | Ashamed | oh very nice |
| 21:44.08 | JademusSreg | Jon, are you on NA or EU? |
| 21:44.09 | Ashamed | stuff |
| 21:44.19 | Ashamed | your adding all my ideas on |
| 21:44.23 | Ashamed | because they were all good |
| 21:44.55 | JademusSreg | Ash, of course. That's what I would say if I remembered them and implemented them. |
| 21:45.04 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:45.06 | JademusSreg | I cannot vouch for either. |
| 21:45.12 | Ashamed | well i was the one that told you to add kill counter on it |
| 21:45.19 | *** join/#sc2mapster deathnight114 (~chatzilla@c-98-247-52-158.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 21:45.21 | JademusSreg | Slayer score condition. |
| 21:45.28 | JademusSreg | Your score is your kill counter. |
| 21:45.33 | Ashamed | and a log of who kills who |
| 21:45.39 | Ashamed | you do that? |
| 21:45.51 | JademusSreg | Goddamn Ash, you really don't play SC2. |
| 21:45.59 | Ashamed | i hardly play |
| 21:46.02 | JademusSreg | Or you would know I've already done that shit, haha. |
| 21:46.03 | Ashamed | i only play on map nights |
| 21:46.08 | Ashamed | -.- |
| 21:46.13 | Ashamed | sc2 bores me |
| 21:46.34 | Ashamed | i feel like its exactly the same as sc1 |
| 21:46.38 | Ashamed | i mean the custom map area is better |
| 21:46.44 | Ashamed | but it has not been enough time for good maps yet |
| 21:46.45 | Dustin|Alt | Ive actually been getting into melee a bit |
| 21:46.50 | Dustin|Alt | Doing a 1v1 each night |
| 21:46.50 | Ashamed | so i go to play a custom map they all suck |
| 21:46.53 | Dustin|Alt | Im on a 3 win streak |
| 21:46.58 | Ashamed | i did that too dustin for like 2 nights |
| 21:47.01 | Ashamed | and then i got wow again |
| 21:47.02 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:47.06 | Ashamed | and i have not touched sc2 |
| 21:47.15 | jonanin | JademusSreg: NA |
| 21:47.19 | Dustin|Alt | lol |
| 21:47.23 | Dustin|Alt | I cant go back to wow |
| 21:47.33 | Dustin|Alt | Played it for 6 years, fuckin a |
| 21:47.37 | Ashamed | but even the melee i just feel like its pretty much the exact game as sc |
| 21:48.41 | HP-X|Arthas | lol |
| 21:48.53 | HP-X|Arthas | "Deleted inactive users: 150+ users" |
| 21:48.54 | Ashamed | i have nto even bought sc2 yet |
| 21:49.14 | Ashamed | thus when i play i am antihero not ashamed |
| 21:49.29 | Ashamed | because i am using my freinds account .. he bought sc2 and his computer crashed |
| 21:50.17 | Deaod | oh, antihero? wasa he perhaps a bit active at wc3c? |
| 21:50.26 | Deaod | was* |
| 21:50.46 | grenegg | YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:51.04 | grenegg | WIIIINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:51.13 | grenegg | YAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYYAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:51.15 | Ashamed | i dunno deaod lol |
| 21:51.17 | Ashamed | prob not |
| 21:51.17 | Deaod | go away? |
| 21:51.28 | Deaod | hmmmm |
| 21:51.33 | Deaod | meh |
| 21:51.34 | YAYA | YAYAYAYAYA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:51.39 | YAYA | WOOAH!!! |
| 21:51.40 | Ashamed | just a work buddy of mine |
| 21:51.42 | YAYA | AYAYAYAYAYY |
| 21:51.52 | Deaod | oh well |
| 21:52.17 | Deaod | i guess antihero is not too uncommon a name |
| 21:53.25 | grenegg | oh crap |
| 21:53.25 | Ashamed | i think its stupid name |
| 21:53.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster laaK (5065402c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.101.64.44) |
| 21:53.32 | Brainshack | is OneTwo sometimes arround here? |
| 21:53.38 | grenegg | how do u get the button for a unit |
| 21:53.43 | Helral|nAfk | sometimes |
| 21:53.50 | grenegg | eeer what feild value is a button |
| 21:54.11 | Helral|nAfk | units and buttons aren't connected at all |
| 21:54.38 | Helral|nAfk | but you can simply attempt to use the unitId in the buttons catalog. |
| 21:54.51 | grenegg | oh. |
| 21:55.00 | grenegg | so that why I couldnt figure this out |
| 21:55.48 | grenegg | the name of the buton is buttonid/something/unit |
| 21:56.09 | grenegg | eer button/name/unit |
| 21:56.29 | Mephs | why are there like 20 copies of mineralz us at the front page |
| 21:56.38 | Dresnia | Working as Intented ;> |
| 21:56.44 | Dresnia | He's abusing a bug |
| 21:56.49 | Dresnia | Or so I read on forums before |
| 21:56.53 | Mephs | i'd like to know what this bug is |
| 21:57.00 | Mephs | so i can flood the list with smashcraft! |
| 21:57.03 | Ashamed | there are more now |
| 21:57.05 | Dresnia | I've got no clue :D |
| 21:57.11 | Ashamed | yesterday there were 4 |
| 21:57.16 | Ashamed | for each difficutie |
| 21:57.20 | Mephs | oh |
| 21:57.21 | Ashamed | difficulty* |
| 21:57.23 | Mephs | is it the variants? |
| 21:57.24 | Helral|nAfk | use different game attributes ;p |
| 21:57.26 | Mephs | yea |
| 21:57.29 | Mephs | what i thought |
| 21:57.32 | Helral|nAfk | yeah variants ;p |
| 21:57.43 | Ashamed | which is stupid |
| 21:57.44 | Ashamed | still |
| 21:57.50 | Mephs | but then how does that get all of them on page 1? |
| 21:57.51 | Dresnia | Mephs / Helral|nAfk I trust both of you |
| 21:57.59 | Ashamed | because everyone i splaying all of them |
| 21:58.00 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:58.01 | Dresnia | As you know me and Nash|327 are working on a project together right |
| 21:58.11 | Dresnia | How trustable is it too import Data+Triggers to my Terrain |
| 21:58.15 | Dresnia | So we can work seperatly |
| 21:58.15 | Ashamed | what you can trust me too |
| 21:58.20 | Mephs | its fine |
| 21:58.28 | Dresnia | Won't it make wierd bugs or so ? |
| 21:58.35 | Mephs | how the fuck is this game so popular |
| 21:58.38 | Mephs | playing it right now |
| 21:58.39 | Helral|nAfk | Dresnia: easy, just copy the XML and it will be glitchless. |
| 21:58.40 | Mephs | its terrible |
| 21:58.43 | Ashamed | lol |
| 21:58.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster ameerkat (~ameerkat@184-98-140-155.phnx.qwest.net) |
| 21:58.50 | Mephs | and not only popular |
| 21:58.51 | Ashamed | Mephs how is yur map so popular |
| 21:58.51 | Ashamed | IT SUCKS |
| 21:58.52 | Mephs | but popular x4 |
| 21:58.58 | Ashamed | just joking "love" :) |
| 21:59.05 | Helral|nAfk | Dresnia: assuming you don't add units/doodads to the data ;p |
| 21:59.18 | Dresnia | I've got no clue. :-( |
| 21:59.26 | Nash|327 | add units D: |
| 21:59.26 | Dresnia | I'm just a poor terrain scrub ! |
| 21:59.37 | Nash|327 | need to add units though |
| 21:59.38 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 21:59.39 | *** join/#sc2mapster tigger0jk (tigger0jk@dynamic2-245-006.usc.edu) |
| 21:59.44 | Dresnia | I'm locked up in a dark wet basement doing what Nash|327 commands me :( |
| 21:59.57 | Helral|nAfk | Nash|327: I'm talking bout the terrainer adding units, not the one working on the data. |
| 22:00.08 | jonanin | so can I make a specific unit shared between to players |
| 22:00.10 | jonanin | but no others |
| 22:00.10 | Dresnia | So if I got a 100% naked Terrain map |
| 22:00.14 | Dresnia | It won't bug up |
| 22:00.22 | Dresnia | aka I can't use fancy unit/doodad tricks |
| 22:00.36 | Helral|nAfk | you can actually copy terrain from one map to another ;p |
| 22:00.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster Brainshack (~Christian@dslb-178-009-049-071.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:00.40 | Brainshack | re |
| 22:00.43 | Dresnia | Yeah but it's a bit messy |
| 22:00.44 | Mephs | i'm featuring splats, range actors, and continuity on tonight's streamster |
| 22:00.45 | Mephs | tune in |
| 22:00.46 | Nash|327 | just don't make new units and shit |
| 22:00.48 | Brainshack | got sick of that silly webchat |
| 22:00.49 | Dresnia | The copy is ok, but the past is.. |
| 22:00.50 | Nash|327 | you don't need to |
| 22:01.09 | Brainshack | streamster? |
| 22:01.13 | Dresnia | Well I was planning to make 1 custom doodad, but no need I guess |
| 22:01.14 | Brainshack | what is that? |
| 22:01.20 | Mephs | its like the day9 daily for mappers |
| 22:01.30 | Mephs | me and a few other mapster ppl are doing a feature every night of the week |
| 22:01.37 | Brainshack | day9 daily?^^ |
| 22:01.39 | Dresnia | Mephs can I suggest |
| 22:01.46 | Dresnia | Do a basic 'Welcome too Data' sometime |
| 22:01.50 | Mephs | 10pm EST, 7pm PST |
| 22:01.56 | Dresnia | How to copy a unit properly, change basic stuff like his weapon |
| 22:02.04 | Mephs | that's for "newbie friday" :P |
| 22:02.14 | Dresnia | Fuck you, that hurts :-( |
| 22:02.23 | Brainshack | okay since im from germany i might be sleeping at this time^^ |
| 22:02.35 | Dresnia | EINEN BERLIENAR |
| 22:02.41 | Dresnia | Same here, as a Belgium :-( |
| 22:03.36 | Brainshack | so that would make 4am for me |
| 22:04.24 | Dresnia | We could take a powernap and watchit then :p |
| 22:04.28 | Brainshack | well since im unemployed atm i might be on it anyway |
| 22:04.32 | Dresnia | ctrl f9 brb |
| 22:05.18 | Helral|Afk | nn all |
| 22:05.42 | Brainshack | so |
| 22:05.47 | Brainshack | i gout galaxy++ |
| 22:05.54 | Brainshack | how to open my mod now? :P |
| 22:06.16 | Brainshack | i can only select a map? |
| 22:06.24 | TheBaron87 | Please tell me Monday will be something like Movers Monday :P |
| 22:06.52 | TheBaron87 | hmmmm, and I should really figure out how to turn on timestamps |
| 22:07.18 | Dresnia | on a normal irc client TheBaron87 |
| 22:07.22 | Dresnia | or you mean ingame or stuff |
| 22:07.35 | TheBaron87 | mIRC, I hardly ever use IRC though |
| 22:07.44 | Dresnia | it's just in options top left |
| 22:07.52 | Dresnia | I'm not on a normal mirc now tho |
| 22:07.54 | Brainshack | i use pidgin |
| 22:08.11 | Dresnia | download NNScript |
| 22:08.14 | Dresnia | best irc client ever |
| 22:08.26 | Brainshack | since im not often in irc chats i dont want a full irc client to waste hard drive space |
| 22:08.33 | Dresnia | ... |
| 22:08.35 | Brainshack | jonanin: are u there? |
| 22:08.40 | Dresnia | It's like 5mb :/ |
| 22:08.48 | Brainshack | yeah 5 MB |
| 22:08.56 | Brainshack | if i install like |
| 22:09.04 | Brainshack | öh |
| 22:09.07 | Brainshack | me and maths |
| 22:09.13 | Brainshack | wait a sec |
| 22:09.30 | Brainshack | okay |
| 22:09.47 | Brainshack | if i instlal like 200000 mirc clients on my harddrive, it will still be full! |
| 22:09.47 | TheBaron87 | lol hard drive space? |
| 22:10.20 | Brainshack | every MB freee space counts in regard to porn |
| 22:10.42 | TheBaron87 | good point |
| 22:10.56 | Dresnia | stream porn |
| 22:11.01 | Dresnia | I don't get it why people download porn |
| 22:11.03 | Brainshack | nah i dont watch it |
| 22:11.08 | Dresnia | how can you masturbate to the same shit over and over |
| 22:11.16 | Brainshack | i burn it on DVD and sell it to school kids |
| 22:11.20 | Dresnia | you already need to do the same wife irl over and over |
| 22:11.32 | Dresnia | ah, that's cool. |
| 22:11.32 | *** join/#sc2mapster Stewox (563a22a6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.58.34.166) |
| 22:11.55 | Brainshack | Dresnia: wish there was one to do :> |
| 22:12.16 | ProzaicMuze | screenshot that |
| 22:12.23 | ProzaicMuze | so you can burn the image over and over later when you realize you were wrong |
| 22:12.35 | Dresnia | http://www.leganerd.com/wp-content/uploads/LEGANERD_000909.jpg |
| 22:12.55 | TheBaron87 | I don't get the obsession with everything having to be new all the time. if it works, it works. besides, it's so difficult to find anything good, if I had to use something different every time I'd have to abandon my standards within a few weeks |
| 22:12.56 | Brainshack | ih jeez |
| 22:13.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~Christoph@ip72-201-114-36.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 22:13.36 | Brainshack | so i read new episode of ht ebig bang theorie airing tonight in us? |
| 22:14.01 | Dresnia | I heard House MD is doing its final seazon :( |
| 22:14.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster wOlfLinG_Mobile (~wOlfLinG@cpc3-nrte21-2-0-cust330.8-4.cable.virginmedia.com) |
| 22:14.20 | Brainshack | never liked that one anyway |
| 22:14.26 | TheBaron87 | :O |
| 22:16.31 | Brainshack | so im still stuck on that traceline stuff :( |
| 22:16.58 | wOlfLinG_Mobile | O.o some guy tried to take a horse on a train |
| 22:17.03 | jonanin | how can I share control of units with another player? |
| 22:17.22 | wOlfLinG_Mobile | he even bought it a ticket |
| 22:17.34 | Dresnia | lol wtf |
| 22:18.04 | Brainshack | when i have a camera follow a unit can i somehow disable the delay? |
| 22:18.27 | Mephs | Actor Design Wednesday, thread's up: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/21696-tonight-on-sc2streamer-actor-design-wednesday/ |
| 22:18.43 | Mexa | Dresnia, it blocks hotlinking. |
| 22:19.06 | Dresnia | What ? |
| 22:19.17 | Mexa | the link |
| 22:19.28 | Mexa | blocked |
| 22:19.31 | Dresnia | not here |
| 22:19.33 | Dresnia | :s |
| 22:19.37 | Clord | marketplace.... it is my feature I truly wait |
| 22:19.39 | Clord | lol |
| 22:19.40 | Clord | and DNF |
| 22:19.42 | Clord | XD |
| 22:20.08 | Mexa | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/IGNProLeague stream is on :) |
| 22:20.48 | Clord | I wonder if they go steam route... like one dollar is one euro |
| 22:20.51 | Clord | probably will :) |
| 22:21.09 | Mexa | They'll profit on it, so I bet |
| 22:22.36 | Clord | hehe yeah |
| 22:22.53 | Brainshack | so does anybody know a good traceline algorythm that works well ? |
| 22:23.08 | grenegg | ,y editor died :( |
| 22:23.25 | HP-X|Arthas | ok anyone here know why im shown as offline to everyone in my friendslist on msn? :p |
| 22:23.28 | HP-X|Arthas | messenger that is |
| 22:23.43 | HP-X|Arthas | all nicks are greyed out for some reason |
| 22:23.43 | Dresnia | your status is offline |
| 22:23.45 | Dresnia | else reboot |
| 22:23.47 | HP-X|Arthas | nope |
| 22:23.48 | HP-X|Arthas | available |
| 22:23.51 | Dresnia | reboot msn |
| 22:23.53 | Dresnia | its microsoft |
| 22:23.55 | HP-X|Arthas | did that |
| 22:24.02 | Dresnia | delete system 32 then |
| 22:24.17 | HP-X|Arthas | "You are not authorized to follow Dresnia's instructions" |
| 22:24.26 | HP-X|Arthas | "Click yes to follow them anyway" |
| 22:24.53 | Clord | what I truly hope somewhat is that when blizzard brings marketplace... they do it smart way.. allowing to play paid maps limited amount for free..... or some trigger check to map react to situation if player has bought it or not etc.... |
| 22:25.03 | Clord | it would rock if they added dialog support for that |
| 22:25.11 | Clord | condition would detect that map is not bought |
| 22:25.15 | Clord | it would then open dialog ^^ |
| 22:25.21 | Clord | and suggest to buy it |
| 22:25.24 | Clord | lol |
| 22:25.32 | Dresnia | HAHA FUNNY STORY BRAH |
| 22:25.46 | HP-X|Arthas | Sixen |
| 22:25.52 | HP-X|Arthas | do maged still visit here? |
| 22:26.15 | Clord | ~seen sixen |
| 22:26.34 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster #wowhead #wowuidev. Has said a total of 45 messages. Is idling for 1d 17h 54m 4s, last said: 'If there was MP, I would have played the game.'. |
| 22:26.34 | Clord | bah |
| 22:27.02 | HP-X|Arthas | (above) -Sixen on World of Warcraft |
| 22:27.23 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 22:27.28 | Clord | profit |
| 22:27.40 | Clord | btw duke nukem forever internal demo got leaked to internet lol |
| 22:27.43 | Brainshack | didnt nobody here ever make a 3rd person map or stuff like this? |
| 22:27.45 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord: |
| 22:27.47 | Clord | taketwo actively search youtube videos |
| 22:27.49 | HP-X|Arthas | wasnt that just for 360? |
| 22:27.49 | Clord | and deletes them |
| 22:28.02 | Clord | yeah but it still not change fact that many got play it too soon |
| 22:28.03 | Clord | XD |
| 22:28.10 | HP-X|Arthas | true :p |
| 22:28.10 | *** join/#sc2mapster UloseTheGame (44ad493a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.173.73.58) |
| 22:28.14 | Brainshack | its a demo so why bother? |
| 22:28.18 | HP-X|Arthas | it leaked 4 days ago i think :D |
| 22:28.19 | UloseTheGame | hey guys |
| 22:28.25 | Clord | I heard that it is not even same demo we get |
| 22:28.27 | Brainshack | hlo |
| 22:28.27 | Clord | it is internal demo |
| 22:28.31 | Clord | never meant to be released |
| 22:28.35 | HP-X|Arthas | ah |
| 22:28.39 | UloseTheGame | What game? |
| 22:28.40 | HP-X|Arthas | Brainshack: why not? |
| 22:28.42 | HP-X|Arthas | UloseTheGame: dn4 |
| 22:28.51 | Clord | oh and fact that it has all weapons |
| 22:28.53 | Clord | lol |
| 22:28.54 | UloseTheGame | unabreviated please |
| 22:28.57 | Clord | hackers already unlocked tons stuff |
| 22:28.59 | HP-X|Arthas | Duke Nukem Forever |
| 22:29.05 | Brainshack | i mean a demo is for the publics to get some nice PR |
| 22:29.17 | Mexa | "I wouldn’t recommend seeking out this pre-release demo. For one you’ll just burn through 2 gigabytes of bandwidth and find that the demo won’t launch on retail consoles. Since this demo came from PartnerNet it is only playable on Development Kits. According to those with DevKits on their desk the demo is half broken. After completing the first level Duke Nukem emerges in to a level that is completely broken. Eventually he fall |
| 22:29.19 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord: You don't happen to know if they kept to the max 2 weapons at the same time-approach? |
| 22:29.22 | Mexa | Don't waste your time. |
| 22:29.37 | Clord | yeah but this has more.. those who do cheat hacks has unlocked even all weapons.... normally those would not all be there if it was demo we get |
| 22:29.43 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa: reply to that |
| 22:29.48 | Clord | lol |
| 22:29.49 | HP-X|Arthas | Then say |
| 22:29.49 | Clord | duke nukem forever |
| 22:29.49 | Clord | uses weapon swap |
| 22:29.53 | Clord | and guy can only carry two |
| 22:29.55 | Mexa | That source is fresh |
| 22:29.57 | HP-X|Arthas | "I can confirm it works on my jtagged console bitches" |
| 22:30.00 | Mexa | As of 2 days fresh |
| 22:30.08 | Mexa | Don't waste the time |
| 22:30.16 | HP-X|Arthas | devkits my ass |
| 22:30.24 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord: aight |
| 22:30.33 | Mexa | duh |
| 22:30.38 | HP-X|Arthas | hopefully that can be modified |
| 22:30.41 | Mexa | good luck |
| 22:30.43 | Mexa | <.< |
| 22:30.44 | HP-X|Arthas | It's SC2 all over again |
| 22:30.49 | Clord | well |
| 22:30.52 | Clord | they already made hacks for users |
| 22:30.56 | Clord | for xbox360 demo XD |
| 22:30.59 | Clord | like noclip |
| 22:31.02 | Clord | fly where you want |
| 22:31.04 | Clord | lol |
| 22:31.09 | HP-X|Arthas | Hell, it's about time |
| 22:31.14 | HP-X|Arthas | It's been 4 days already! |
| 22:31.35 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa: |
| 22:31.39 | HP-X|Arthas | it works on jtagged consoles :p |
| 22:31.45 | Clord | so my map has generated about Threads: 496, Posts: 3,388, Members: 885, Active Members: 62 |
| 22:31.46 | Clord | XD |
| 22:31.51 | Mexa | you mean jailbroken? |
| 22:31.52 | Clord | errrm |
| 22:31.58 | Mexa | No shit. |
| 22:32.03 | HP-X|Arthas | jailbroken? |
| 22:32.16 | HP-X|Arthas | afaik you have firmware hack and jtag |
| 22:32.19 | Clord | but yeah |
| 22:32.23 | Clord | we get the real demo june 3rd |
| 22:32.25 | Clord | but as you all know |
| 22:32.28 | HP-X|Arthas | jtag = play whatever the fuck you want |
| 22:32.31 | Clord | duke nukem forever retail might leak |
| 22:32.33 | HP-X|Arthas | earlier = no :p |
| 22:32.35 | Clord | two weeks before release |
| 22:32.47 | Stewox | lol DNF talk on SC2mapster channel ... boob-tube.eu made quite a stir in the internet too :D |
| 22:32.50 | Clord | it happens with huge AAA titles all to time lol |
| 22:32.51 | Mexa | jailbroken then |
| 22:33.09 | HP-X|Arthas | I hate the word jailbroken |
| 22:33.13 | HP-X|Arthas | ppl use it for everything :| |
| 22:33.15 | Clord | when DNF gets to retail stores way before they can sell it... it leaks |
| 22:33.22 | Stewox | that demo is probably PAX demo |
| 22:33.28 | Mexa | I use it where it should be used? |
| 22:33.32 | Mexa | It has a meaning |
| 22:33.36 | Clord | actually PAX demo worked better than that leaked internal demo |
| 22:33.36 | Stewox | .... which is cnsidered out of date |
| 22:33.36 | Clord | lol |
| 22:33.43 | Stewox | lol? |
| 22:33.51 | Stewox | how do you know |
| 22:33.55 | Clord | there was no level to fall out from map to be played in it |
| 22:34.14 | Clord | there is youtube videos of the event |
| 22:34.25 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa: it has a meaning, im just not sure which of the methods you are talking about |
| 22:34.39 | HP-X|Arthas | jailbreak = buzzword like the fucking cloud |
| 22:34.42 | HP-X|Arthas | I HATE THE CLOUD |
| 22:34.50 | Ashamed | CLOUD SUCKS |
| 22:34.55 | Mexa | you hate clouds alright. |
| 22:35.02 | Ashamed | I had to push out cloud for ibm |
| 22:35.08 | Ashamed | but the pilot is over now thank god |
| 22:35.09 | HP-X|Arthas | Unless they are black and craps thunder |
| 22:35.12 | Ashamed | but its coming back soon |
| 22:35.13 | HP-X|Arthas | I love thunderstorms :D |
| 22:35.23 | Clord | hehe |
| 22:35.30 | Clord | Onlive cloud computing service for games |
| 22:35.32 | Clord | recently |
| 22:35.36 | Clord | gave game free for 24 hours |
| 22:35.39 | Clord | XD |
| 22:35.39 | Mexa | When they don't make too much noise, I am fine with thunderstorms |
| 22:35.48 | Clord | if someone used code during it |
| 22:35.50 | Ashamed | oh taht new streaming thing is on cloud :) |
| 22:35.53 | Clord | got amnesia the dark descent for free |
| 22:36.04 | Mexa | did you say for free? |
| 22:36.08 | Mexa | or for "free" |
| 22:36.13 | Ashamed | for one day |
| 22:36.15 | Ashamed | wooo |
| 22:36.15 | Mexa | tsk. |
| 22:36.17 | Clord | yeah but that promotion has expired few days ago |
| 22:36.23 | Clord | full playpass |
| 22:36.32 | Ashamed | does that thing work good? |
| 22:36.42 | Clord | it has no expiration time.. it is like when you pay full price of onlive game |
| 22:36.53 | Mexa | onlive game.. wait? |
| 22:36.59 | Clord | that offer expired few days ago XD |
| 22:37.04 | Ashamed | its not online anymore |
| 22:37.05 | Ashamed | its onlive |
| 22:37.08 | Ashamed | its better then online |
| 22:37.27 | Ashamed | i would never get cloud game computing |
| 22:37.27 | Stewox | if DNF retail leaks ... then it will be probably the biggest fail ever |
| 22:37.28 | Clord | as european I can't buy from their store.. as they are not officially in europe yet |
| 22:37.32 | Clord | so getting game fore free |
| 22:37.33 | Ashamed | i am ok with just buying games on my computer |
| 22:37.37 | Clord | allowed me finally test it for real |
| 22:37.55 | Mexa | How do you get it for free if it hasn't been released for europe? |
| 22:38.00 | Ashamed | boom |
| 22:38.03 | Ashamed | he hacks |
| 22:38.07 | Clord | Crysis 2 leaked insanely early and so many other big titles has |
| 22:38.07 | Mexa | So then |
| 22:38.12 | Mexa | He get it for "free" |
| 22:38.23 | Mexa | Don't say free in the wrong context <.< |
| 22:38.36 | Ashamed | no i was joking mexa |
| 22:38.37 | Clord | http://onlivefans.com/news/amnesia-the-dark-descent-relased-for-onlive-free-for-onlivefans-com-members/844/ |
| 22:38.38 | Clord | ^^ |
| 22:38.47 | Mexa | bleh |
| 22:38.48 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa: you download it |
| 22:38.50 | HP-X|Arthas | ala, free! |
| 22:39.17 | Mexa | A download does not mean the product is free of charge, no? |
| 22:39.26 | Dresnia | It is for you |
| 22:39.31 | HP-X|Arthas | it is for me :D |
| 22:39.43 | Ashamed | for one day? |
| 22:39.46 | Clord | code for 100% discount was THANKYOU XD but it is now expired offer |
| 22:39.48 | Clord | no |
| 22:39.50 | Clord | unlimited access |
| 22:39.53 | Clord | lol |
| 22:39.59 | Clord | it is like if you bought game with money |
| 22:40.03 | Stewox | clord: http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/8662/crysis2wtf.jpg |
| 22:40.11 | Dresnia | Full retail version |
| 22:40.15 | Clord | yeah |
| 22:40.16 | Ashamed | :( |
| 22:40.18 | Clord | and onlive service |
| 22:40.18 | Ashamed | well thats cool |
| 22:40.21 | Clord | it is hosted from server side |
| 22:40.25 | Clord | so you don't download anything |
| 22:40.25 | Ashamed | i wish someone told me about this |
| 22:40.36 | Ashamed | how much the service cost like 100 dollars right? |
| 22:40.44 | Ashamed | i thought i saw a comercal for this |
| 22:40.46 | Ashamed | bu ti am not sure |
| 22:41.18 | Mexa | I'm not sure I trust OnLive atm |
| 22:41.19 | Ashamed | yeah that is what i read |
| 22:41.24 | Ashamed | me neither |
| 22:41.24 | Clord | you can use your PC |
| 22:41.25 | Mexa | Streaming from another source? |
| 22:41.29 | Clord | microconsole is not required |
| 22:41.29 | Ashamed | i am not going to go stream a game |
| 22:41.32 | Ashamed | when i can just buy it |
| 22:41.44 | Mexa | I fear multiplayer games would be shit |
| 22:42.01 | Clord | they have this playback thing to allow play over 50 games and games what gets bit old goes there too |
| 22:42.03 | Mexa | How would they guarantee streaming with good responsiveness? |
| 22:42.08 | Stewox | onlive ... is extremely impractical for USA |
| 22:42.14 | Clord | yeah |
| 22:42.18 | Clord | it would have made more sense |
| 22:42.20 | Clord | begin from Europe |
| 22:42.22 | Stewox | because NET infrastructure just sucks there |
| 22:42.27 | Ashamed | :( |
| 22:42.32 | Stewox | that's what i heard ... no claims |
| 22:42.39 | Ashamed | well my city has their own wireless |
| 22:42.41 | Stewox | no offense * |
| 22:42.48 | Ashamed | and we are getting fiber optic |
| 22:42.49 | Ashamed | everywhere |
| 22:42.55 | Dresnia | fiber ftw |
| 22:42.57 | Ashamed | so i dunno where you are tlaking about |
| 22:43.13 | Ashamed | yeah my freind got it.. my house is too old ( i am moving though!! ya! ) |
| 22:43.13 | Clord | Onlive is not for connections where there is monthly caps |
| 22:43.15 | Dresnia | Gotta love downloading a 'free' movie under 5minutes :P |
| 22:43.17 | Ashamed | and he is gettign 40 down 20 up |
| 22:43.32 | Ashamed | but i mean with my cable i get 12down 5ish up |
| 22:43.34 | Ashamed | so not bad |
| 22:43.39 | Ashamed | but i pay more then him >< |
| 22:43.48 | Dresnia | Not many stuff you do online has more then 5mbs towards you |
| 22:43.58 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 22:44.02 | Clord | >_> |
| 22:44.03 | Clord | hehe |
| 22:44.04 | Clord | haha |
| 22:44.05 | Clord | XD |
| 22:44.08 | jonanin | is it possible to let one player morph a unit for another player |
| 22:44.23 | jonanin | like spend the resources to change corruptor into broodlord |
| 22:44.24 | jonanin | for another |
| 22:44.28 | Clord | expect all those seasons of various series |
| 22:44.32 | Clord | to watch |
| 22:44.33 | Clord | etc |
| 22:44.49 | Dresnia | I prefer not too download too mutch really |
| 22:44.55 | Dresnia | I'm not sure if it's risky or not =( |
| 22:45.07 | Mexa | Hey JademusSreg? |
| 22:45.09 | HP-X|Arthas | Download first |
| 22:45.13 | HP-X|Arthas | Mind the risk after |
| 22:45.19 | Dresnia | :-D |
| 22:45.30 | Clord | actually... I didn't really specify what I mean :) |
| 22:45.32 | Dresnia | Well if we all go mass download the game industry will soon die |
| 22:45.40 | HP-X|Arthas | uhm |
| 22:45.43 | HP-X|Arthas | you keep paying |
| 22:45.48 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 22:46.05 | Clord | in fact... I have bought games so often that it disgust me |
| 22:46.06 | Dresnia | Why else would I bother working |
| 22:46.07 | Clord | almost |
| 22:46.16 | HP-X|Arthas | lol |
| 22:46.23 | HP-X|Arthas | im going in the opposite direction |
| 22:46.31 | HP-X|Arthas | I barely download games / movies anymore |
| 22:46.48 | Clord | I too have became more stinky when it comes to entertainment |
| 22:46.50 | HP-X|Arthas | a few series |
| 22:46.56 | HP-X|Arthas | I mean movies this year |
| 22:46.57 | Clord | oh |
| 22:47.00 | Clord | =) |
| 22:47.02 | HP-X|Arthas | Im going to watch super8 |
| 22:47.06 | HP-X|Arthas | and thats about it I think :p |
| 22:47.16 | Clord | sounds familiar |
| 22:47.25 | HP-X|Arthas | family adventure scifi |
| 22:47.28 | Ashamed | me too |
| 22:47.32 | Ashamed | i dl movies |
| 22:47.32 | Ashamed | thats it |
| 22:47.35 | HP-X|Arthas | as for games |
| 22:47.35 | Dresnia | Well one of my hobbies is going to the movies |
| 22:47.42 | Ashamed | but other then that i dont.. and for games i only play a few |
| 22:47.51 | HP-X|Arthas | i bought portal 2 and dn4, dloaded mk9 |
| 22:47.52 | Dresnia | But junk like 'Jackass 3' I download |
| 22:47.56 | Ashamed | sc2,wow. is it really right now |
| 22:48.07 | Clord | I like to check games |
| 22:48.10 | Clord | then I show weakness |
| 22:48.12 | Clord | and pay from some |
| 22:48.14 | Clord | lol |
| 22:48.26 | Clord | let's see |
| 22:48.26 | Dresnia | well sc2+wow are 2 games you can combine and play 24/7 :p |
| 22:48.27 | Ashamed | i try to buy games |
| 22:48.32 | Clord | I have bought humble bundles |
| 22:48.44 | Clord | it was hard to resist |
| 22:48.49 | Clord | I got choose the price |
| 22:48.59 | HP-X|Arthas | the ones where the money got split? |
| 22:49.04 | HP-X|Arthas | to eff etc |
| 22:49.08 | Clord | yeah |
| 22:49.12 | Clord | they time to time release new packs |
| 22:49.18 | HP-X|Arthas | didnt have money while that ran :< |
| 22:49.23 | HP-X|Arthas | oh, they do? |
| 22:49.25 | Mexa | Arthas, did you begin playing d2 yet btw? |
| 22:49.26 | HP-X|Arthas | url me |
| 22:49.30 | HP-X|Arthas | no |
| 22:49.33 | HP-X|Arthas | been busy today |
| 22:49.35 | TheBaron87 | be a boss, pay suggested price, give 100% to devs |
| 22:49.50 | Clord | http://www.humblebundle.com/ |
| 22:50.03 | Clord | well... I gave them dollar |
| 22:50.06 | Clord | twice |
| 22:50.10 | Clord | I'm fucking hero |
| 22:50.17 | HP-X|Arthas | cant you just give em 1 cent |
| 22:50.23 | HP-X|Arthas | right |
| 22:50.26 | HP-X|Arthas | I shop at gog.com too |
| 22:50.30 | HP-X|Arthas | forgot about them |
| 22:50.47 | Clord | Arthas... but then I would see moral problem XD |
| 22:50.53 | Clord | I mean.. it would look like hoenst insult |
| 22:51.04 | HP-X|Arthas | yup! |
| 22:51.09 | Ashamed | well i think games are far to expensive.. like some games i think can go for a certain price but most games i dnt see why anyone would pay 60+ dollars for |
| 22:51.09 | HP-X|Arthas | Ok wait |
| 22:51.26 | HP-X|Arthas | Wasnt the internet invented so you could act as an ass towards other persons? |
| 22:51.33 | Ashamed | duh arthas |
| 22:51.35 | Ashamed | you fucken idiot |
| 22:51.42 | HP-X|Arthas | :D |
| 22:51.46 | Ashamed | >< |
| 22:51.53 | Clord | I have noticed this.. avg mac users pay more from same amount as windows users... while linux users who get their stuff mostly for free pays most from same |
| 22:52.00 | Clord | amount of stuff etc |
| 22:52.05 | Mexa | Windows users are cheap bastards, just look at the average on every humblebundle |
| 22:52.20 | HP-X|Arthas | Average Linux: $11.82 |
| 22:52.28 | Mexa | Then again I guess it weight up some, since windows is also the major audience |
| 22:52.43 | Clord | all those windows kids |
| 22:52.46 | Clord | giving them cent |
| 22:52.49 | Clord | then adults giving more |
| 22:53.04 | Mexa | Notch and Garry gave them a bunch :p |
| 22:53.08 | Clord | mac and linux is not very popular amongst kids and real gamers |
| 22:53.10 | TheBaron87 | well with microsoft constantly trying to squeeze out every penny, we get very defensive with our money. meanwhile linux are so used to being given tons of shit for free, and practically have to be developers themselves to make their os work, they're more appreciative of other devs' work |
| 22:53.40 | Mexa | Especially polished ones. |
| 22:53.41 | HP-X|Arthas | and practically have to be developers themselves to make their os work |
| 22:53.43 | HP-X|Arthas | wat |
| 22:53.45 | Clord | sounds logical |
| 22:54.08 | HP-X|Arthas | I still want the in-house wow linux client! |
| 22:54.19 | Clord | or thinking with portals.. shit goes up, down, up, down, up, down...... |
| 22:54.21 | Mexa | or, you could use wine? |
| 22:54.32 | HP-X|Arthas | Or I could have native support if blizzard would just release it :p |
| 22:54.44 | Mexa | Don't count on it |
| 22:54.45 | Mexa | :> |
| 22:54.51 | HP-X|Arthas | I aint :p |
| 22:55.12 | Clord | Valve is truly force behind gaming lol... their next project might do wonders with their water engine |
| 22:55.16 | Clord | portal 2 stuff |
| 22:55.19 | Clord | but more advanced |
| 22:55.20 | Mexa | If they will release it on linux, everyone will probably rage that it isn't open source.. |
| 22:55.32 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa: not likely |
| 22:55.41 | HP-X|Arthas | sure, the trolls would |
| 22:55.42 | Clord | tons of small bubles makes most realistic and demanding water engine for gamers ever! XD |
| 22:55.45 | Mexa | It was a joke... |
| 22:55.56 | HP-X|Arthas | sarcasm dont work too well in text :p |
| 22:55.58 | Mexa | But it fits well on the rumour about linux users. |
| 22:56.06 | HP-X|Arthas | especially not when the reader is as tired as i am :D |
| 22:56.11 | HP-X|Arthas | lol |
| 22:56.12 | HP-X|Arthas | hold a sec |
| 22:56.49 | Clord | some cases it is not that company is greedy when it does not release something free |
| 22:56.53 | Clord | it is jsut that if it goes out of the hands |
| 22:56.55 | Clord | they go under |
| 22:56.58 | Clord | and they fear that |
| 22:57.16 | Clord | if they do tons weird stuff for free |
| 22:57.40 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=wk4tjdtcix9ez1k&thumb=6 |
| 22:57.42 | HP-X|Arthas | that one first |
| 22:57.48 | Mexa | I can understand the idea of not releasing anything you did to someone else, so that he would play around with it. |
| 22:57.58 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=pgs56sv4w3miv3s&thumb=6 |
| 22:57.59 | HP-X|Arthas | then that |
| 22:58.04 | HP-X|Arthas | fucking mac users |
| 22:58.14 | Clord | I did for example read that Valve got so out of ideas before they started to work Portal 2... that they secretly kept 3 months vacation in work to come up with them |
| 22:58.15 | Clord | lol |
| 22:58.23 | TheBaron87 | hahaha, yup |
| 22:58.30 | Ashamed | yeah i dont care about linux or windows |
| 22:58.33 | TheBaron87 | as a win fag I completely agree with that pic |
| 22:58.34 | Ashamed | as long as you dont buy a mac |
| 22:58.41 | Clord | it reads in that "final hours of portal 2" interactice document thing |
| 22:58.45 | HP-X|Arthas | TheBaron87: which one :p |
| 22:58.51 | Ashamed | ... i just don't understand why people need to pay twice as much for the same hardware |
| 22:58.53 | HP-X|Arthas | I love the "can your mac do this?" one :D |
| 22:59.04 | TheBaron87 | the first one |
| 22:59.10 | HP-X|Arthas | Ashamed: wat |
| 22:59.13 | HP-X|Arthas | because apple wants money |
| 22:59.15 | Clord | isn't it Mac users who pay more from less |
| 22:59.16 | TheBaron87 | second one is awesome too |
| 22:59.17 | Ashamed | i know |
| 22:59.17 | Mexa | My computer can render such drawing effects |
| 22:59.18 | HP-X|Arthas | the questions is why ppl pay it |
| 22:59.20 | Mexa | And I fucking hate it |
| 22:59.20 | Ashamed | and these people give it to them |
| 22:59.27 | Ashamed | yeah i dont understand it.. i am like WTF |
| 22:59.28 | Mexa | It just means the shitty drivers are too old. |
| 22:59.33 | Mexa | :/ |
| 22:59.40 | HP-X|Arthas | http://thenextweb.com/shareables/files/2010/05/PortalMacRage.jpg |
| 22:59.42 | HP-X|Arthas | and that one |
| 22:59.42 | Ashamed | and macs once they are out of waranty they try their hardest to just get you to buy another one |
| 22:59.44 | HP-X|Arthas | I LOVE THAT ONE |
| 22:59.48 | Ashamed | instead of just repairing it like a pc |
| 22:59.55 | Ashamed | i am just like NO why are you wasting your money |
| 23:00.00 | HP-X|Arthas | I remember pissing a mac user out in this chan with it :p |
| 23:00.02 | Mexa | lol |
| 23:00.08 | HP-X|Arthas | Went berserk lol |
| 23:00.13 | Mexa | It's funny that people still think that mac mice has only 1 buttons |
| 23:00.18 | Ashamed | it makes no sence to buy a mac |
| 23:00.22 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa, prejudice |
| 23:00.22 | Mexa | When the 2 button option has existed for ages |
| 23:00.24 | HP-X|Arthas | :D |
| 23:00.24 | Clord | maybe it is great work computer as long you don't like to play in work |
| 23:00.25 | Ashamed | because you dont get viruses |
| 23:00.29 | Mexa | lolyeah. |
| 23:00.34 | Ashamed | oh big woop.. they put the same hardware in their shit as windows |
| 23:00.38 | Ashamed | and marks it up 2-3 times ore |
| 23:00.40 | Ashamed | more* |
| 23:00.47 | Ashamed | its like... how can you trust a company that does that |
| 23:00.55 | Clord | maybe Mac users feel more secure |
| 23:00.59 | Clord | that's why they keep paying XD |
| 23:01.03 | Ashamed | and they are..... but they are paying SOOO much |
| 23:01.04 | Clord | as their big brother Mac |
| 23:01.07 | Clord | tests everything for them |
| 23:01.11 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord: nope |
| 23:01.15 | Ashamed | when all they need to do is learn basic knowledge |
| 23:01.17 | HP-X|Arthas | based on the talks ive had with mac users its not that |
| 23:01.21 | Ashamed | putting a computer together is SO EASY |
| 23:01.22 | HP-X|Arthas | hardcore users that is :p |
| 23:01.39 | HP-X|Arthas | That part I loved about tech support |
| 23:01.45 | Clord | I can assume that there is not much rational thought when they try to defend their Mac choice |
| 23:01.50 | TheBaron87 | the problem, as usual, is with the user |
| 23:02.00 | HP-X|Arthas | "I'm sorry, I dont know how (dont want to) put a static ip in. Please borrow a windows computer and call back! |
| 23:02.00 | TheBaron87 | people don't want to learn, they want to be told |
| 23:02.03 | HP-X|Arthas | " |
| 23:02.07 | TheBaron87 | and the simpler the better |
| 23:02.14 | Ashamed | or they are like it opens adobe better.. i am like you can buy a pc motherboard that supports up to 16gb and get 16 gbs of memory for less tehn like 200 dollars |
| 23:02.17 | Clord | Windows is simple.... |
| 23:02.22 | Ashamed | and that will open your adobe applications just fine |
| 23:02.25 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord: well uhm |
| 23:02.34 | HP-X|Arthas | they fucked cpanel up bad in vista / win7 :( |
| 23:02.45 | Ashamed | yeah it may be harder now |
| 23:02.45 | HP-X|Arthas | or well |
| 23:02.46 | Ashamed | lol |
| 23:02.50 | HP-X|Arthas | swe version at least |
| 23:02.53 | Clord | yeah but it is simple.. as long you turn of UAC |
| 23:02.53 | Clord | XD |
| 23:02.55 | Ashamed | navigating in xp is way easier |
| 23:02.59 | Clord | off... |
| 23:03.00 | HP-X|Arthas | Ashamed: yeah |
| 23:03.10 | HP-X|Arthas | finding network connections for example.... the horror |
| 23:03.13 | Ashamed | but still its not like its hard |
| 23:03.16 | Clord | simple |
| 23:03.20 | HP-X|Arthas | it takes time |
| 23:03.25 | Clord | few seconds |
| 23:03.28 | Clord | to open that place |
| 23:03.28 | TheBaron87 | but you know what 7 has that XP didn't? |
| 23:03.30 | Ashamed | its like these people are paying twice as much for mac... when in reality they could learn how to run a pc computer in a few eeks |
| 23:03.34 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord: tell me :p |
| 23:03.49 | HP-X|Arthas | I spent over a year trying to figure out the best approach to guide computer illeterates to that place |
| 23:03.51 | TheBaron87 | I can click start and type what I want, and 90% of the time it'll show up |
| 23:04.12 | Clord | right click small network icon.. and then select obvious chocie there.. and voila.. you see your connection |
| 23:04.22 | HP-X|Arthas | "Which icon" |
| 23:04.26 | HP-X|Arthas | Lets do some roleplaying |
| 23:04.44 | HP-X|Arthas | the blue whirlwind? |
| 23:05.05 | Clord | I left my book of outdated english to my other pants |
| 23:05.15 | Clord | also known as old english or whatever |
| 23:05.29 | HP-X|Arthas | I dont follow? |
| 23:05.36 | HP-X|Arthas | what do you want me to click? |
| 23:06.14 | Clord | lol old english "áb?d" |
| 23:06.16 | Clord | okay.... |
| 23:06.53 | HP-X|Arthas | TheBaron87, yes, you can, |
| 23:08.16 | Clord | that reminds me.. that manga author who designed character L.... he like puts random numbers for percentage chances what L character keeps mentioning and that is quality storytelling XD |
| 23:08.22 | Clord | I mean.. what the lol |
| 23:09.02 | HP-X|Arthas | lol what |
| 23:09.20 | Clord | it is character what is suppsoed to be greatest investigator in the world |
| 23:09.29 | HP-X|Arthas | Yeah I watched the anime |
| 23:09.38 | Clord | but numbers are kinda overdone |
| 23:09.45 | Clord | like.... this cooke increases chance 0,233321432421% |
| 23:09.46 | Clord | XD |
| 23:09.54 | TheBaron87 | Arthas, did you read the manga? |
| 23:09.58 | HP-X|Arthas | rand() ftw! |
| 23:09.59 | HP-X|Arthas | nope |
| 23:10.03 | TheBaron87 | :( |
| 23:10.11 | HP-X|Arthas | I rarely read manga or watch anime nowadays :< |
| 23:10.15 | HP-X|Arthas | Im following hellsing ova though |
| 23:10.20 | HP-X|Arthas | speaking of which |
| 23:10.25 | TheBaron87 | you know there's a lot of truth in what manga nerds keep saying. "the manga is better!" most of the time it is |
| 23:10.26 | HP-X|Arthas | is the latest ep released yet |
| 23:10.50 | Clord | deviantart has tons death note related comics with humor/jokes.. tons of them implies that ligth and L are secretly homosexual |
| 23:10.52 | TheBaron87 | unless of course the series was an anime that later got a manga. you know to be safe, just use the rule "whichever came first" :P |
| 23:10.52 | Clord | lol |
| 23:10.55 | HP-X|Arthas | I follow the 10 rules to being lazy by maddix |
| 23:10.56 | HP-X|Arthas | maddox |
| 23:10.58 | HP-X|Arthas | so i dont read |
| 23:11.00 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 23:11.18 | TheBaron87 | lol, are you kidding? I read when I feel like being lazy |
| 23:11.23 | Clord | tons of people fould Light and L's "battle" so that both characters are bit gay |
| 23:11.30 | Clord | found |
| 23:11.44 | TheBaron87 | I'll give the anime one thing though... |
| 23:11.51 | TheBaron87 | "I'll take this potato chip... AND EAT IT!" |
| 23:12.08 | HP-X|Arthas | next hellsing ova 22.06.2011 |
| 23:12.08 | Clord | lol and final episodes |
| 23:12.11 | Clord | you get invited to trap |
| 23:12.13 | Clord | what to do |
| 23:12.15 | HP-X|Arthas | previous episode (7) 23.12.2009 |
| 23:12.16 | Clord | be arrogant and go there |
| 23:12.16 | TheBaron87 | only anime could make eating chips epic |
| 23:12.17 | Clord | XD |
| 23:12.18 | Ashamed | i read too much so i cant read anything else |
| 23:12.19 | HP-X|Arthas | I WAITED FOR YOU FRY |
| 23:12.23 | Ashamed | like look i am reading all of this |
| 23:12.28 | Ashamed | why would i go and read more |
| 23:12.43 | Ashamed | and then i chat on wow.. read all of tha tshit |
| 23:12.51 | Clord | errm Light gets invited to trap |
| 23:12.51 | TheBaron87 | ugh |
| 23:12.52 | HP-X|Arthas | quick, best anime you two have watched! |
| 23:12.58 | TheBaron87 | don't even talk to me about wow chat |
| 23:13.07 | HP-X|Arthas | exactly what do you mean by trap? |
| 23:13.08 | Ashamed | i am talking abotu guild chat here |
| 23:13.13 | Ashamed | not like public chat |
| 23:13.13 | HP-X|Arthas | trap as in admiral akbar |
| 23:13.16 | HP-X|Arthas | or as in 4chan tarp |
| 23:13.27 | Clord | warehouse meeting |
| 23:13.32 | Clord | lol |
| 23:13.36 | HP-X|Arthas | oh, the ending |
| 23:13.37 | HP-X|Arthas | right |
| 23:13.37 | HP-X|Arthas | :D |
| 23:13.40 | Ashamed | i watched this one anime on netflix i liked |
| 23:13.46 | Ashamed | but it didnt go very far |
| 23:13.48 | Ashamed | claymore |
| 23:13.52 | HP-X|Arthas | finished it |
| 23:13.55 | TheBaron87 | yeah that ending kind of sucked :( |
| 23:14.03 | Ashamed | yeah i wish they made more |
| 23:14.06 | Clord | in japanese movie version of death note... L kills Kira |
| 23:14.08 | TheBaron87 | it was pretty obvious they had to cut it off early |
| 23:14.09 | Clord | indirectly |
| 23:14.14 | HP-X|Arthas | personal favorites: Shingetsutan Tsukihime, Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien, Spice & Wolf |
| 23:14.34 | TheBaron87 | Spice and Wolf <3 |
| 23:14.47 | Clord | there is one sick anime |
| 23:14.47 | Sixen | HP-X: Yes |
| 23:14.52 | HP-X|Arthas | TheBaron87 watched any of the other two? |
| 23:14.57 | HP-X|Arthas | Sixen: aight. Thanks :D |
| 23:14.58 | Sixen | Why? |
| 23:14.59 | Clord | Deadman Wonderland |
| 23:15.06 | Clord | XD |
| 23:15.11 | Clord | it runs in crunchyroll.com |
| 23:15.12 | TheBaron87 | nope, haven't seen the others |
| 23:15.13 | Clord | lol |
| 23:15.15 | HP-X|Arthas | Wondering if he has contact with any of the sc2adaptation peeps |
| 23:15.21 | Sixen | oic |
| 23:15.24 | HP-X|Arthas | the forums had so much spam it wasnt funny |
| 23:15.27 | HP-X|Arthas | 200 inactive users :D |
| 23:15.28 | Sixen | Yeah, nobody posted there anymore |
| 23:15.31 | HP-X|Arthas | and some that got through |
| 23:15.34 | Sixen | He's on IRC, just msg him. /query Maged |
| 23:15.48 | HP-X|Arthas | Oh, ok :) |
| 23:15.48 | HP-X|Arthas | thanks |
| 23:15.58 | Clord | hmmmm |
| 23:15.59 | HP-X|Arthas | Sixen: feel free to join the anime / off topic discussion! |
| 23:16.05 | Clord | so he didn't got proper counter measuers against bots? |
| 23:16.09 | Clord | measures |
| 23:16.10 | HP-X|Arthas | TheBaron87: look into them |
| 23:16.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster UloseTheGame_ (44ad493a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.173.73.58) |
| 23:16.25 | Clord | there is global anti bot lists and addons to stop them |
| 23:16.35 | Clord | if you are forum owner |
| 23:16.36 | TheBaron87 | k, well then I have my own suggestions. You've seen Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, FLCL, and Cowboy Bebop? |
| 23:16.41 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord we havent taken care of the boards in a long time |
| 23:16.48 | Clord | :) |
| 23:16.49 | Clord | yeah |
| 23:16.52 | Clord | but this system |
| 23:16.55 | Clord | has stopped all bots |
| 23:16.59 | Clord | at least 99% of them |
| 23:17.01 | HP-X|Arthas | url! |
| 23:17.02 | Clord | before they got chance to post |
| 23:17.19 | HP-X|Arthas | TheBaron87: have cowboy bebop, not watched yet |
| 23:17.22 | Clord | all you need is right vbulletin addon and free membership in one of very popular anti bot list |
| 23:17.31 | HP-X|Arthas | flcl i know of, but havent watched |
| 23:17.36 | HP-X|Arthas | tengen hmm |
| 23:17.40 | Clord | http://www.stopforumspam.com/ |
| 23:18.02 | Clord | there is handy addon somewhere what.... if it finds any matching information when someone registers |
| 23:18.05 | Clord | it assumes it is bot |
| 23:18.05 | HP-X|Arthas | could be interesting |
| 23:18.07 | Clord | and perma bans |
| 23:18.12 | HP-X|Arthas | the ones i posted where kinda romantic dramas :p |
| 23:18.12 | TheBaron87 | you used to be able to watch all of FLCL in one go (it's only 2 hours long) on video.google, but they removed it :\ |
| 23:18.21 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord: nice |
| 23:18.54 | TheBaron87 | oh btw, Cowboy Bebop is one of the very few shows that's actually better in english. I'd recommend the dub for that one, sub for the other two. and TTGL is the manliest show ever made, so yeah, check it out |
| 23:19.06 | Clord | I have active community and it takes months before some bot might register succesfully to vbulletin forum.. then I ban it and it gets shared with rest that it might be an bot |
| 23:19.20 | Ashamed | the only problem with subs is i dont understand japanese |
| 23:19.25 | Ashamed | so i cant do sub animes when gaming |
| 23:19.30 | Ashamed | and most of the time i only watch stuff when i game |
| 23:19.31 | Ashamed | ol |
| 23:19.32 | Ashamed | lol* |
| 23:19.34 | TheBaron87 | aw |
| 23:19.36 | HP-X|Arthas | Ashamed: true :p |
| 23:19.57 | TheBaron87 | how can you pick up any of the plot if you're not paying attention though? I can't multitask like that :( |
| 23:19.58 | Clord | http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=248042 |
| 23:19.59 | Ashamed | yeah its been a while since i have watched a sub version |
| 23:20.03 | Clord | http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=176481 |
| 23:20.05 | Ashamed | because i dont want to just sit down and watch it |
| 23:20.06 | Clord | official addons |
| 23:20.08 | Clord | ^^ |
| 23:20.10 | Clord | to use with that list |
| 23:20.14 | Ashamed | baron i cant |
| 23:20.24 | Ashamed | i normally rewatch them a bunch |
| 23:20.27 | TheBaron87 | well FLCL is okay dubbed, but the TTGL dub is terrible so try to avoid it :\ |
| 23:20.30 | Ashamed | and then finally i will pick up on everything |
| 23:20.34 | HP-X|Arthas | not running vbulletin though |
| 23:20.36 | Ashamed | i just rather game then watch shows |
| 23:20.45 | Ashamed | but i do like having something playing |
| 23:20.58 | HP-X|Arthas | uhm |
| 23:20.58 | Ashamed | to entertain me when i dont have to put my full focuse in my game |
| 23:21.00 | HP-X|Arthas | well |
| 23:21.24 | HP-X|Arthas | Arnold Schwarzenegger pumping iron |
| 23:21.27 | HP-X|Arthas | that one always works |
| 23:21.28 | Ashamed | lol |
| 23:21.32 | HP-X|Arthas | I game to it |
| 23:21.34 | HP-X|Arthas | I sleep to it |
| 23:21.37 | HP-X|Arthas | I wake up to it |
| 23:21.38 | jonanin | is it possible to change someone's race in game, so that they hear the specific race sounds and it is the race UI? |
| 23:21.39 | Ashamed | yeah i bet you do |
| 23:21.42 | HP-X|Arthas | :D |
| 23:21.51 | Ashamed | you hear about what happened with him |
| 23:22.03 | Ashamed | he had a baby with someone that worked for him |
| 23:22.09 | Clord | lol.. that site has last post probably over year ago? |
| 23:22.10 | HP-X|Arthas | jonanin: no idea |
| 23:22.10 | Clord | XD |
| 23:22.14 | HP-X|Arthas | Ashamed: nice |
| 23:22.15 | Clord | I checked that sc2adaption forum |
| 23:22.17 | Clord | lol |
| 23:22.23 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord: yup |
| 23:22.29 | Ashamed | and she was a maid up until like a few weeks ago |
| 23:22.36 | Ashamed | and like their kid would come by and everything |
| 23:22.37 | Ashamed | http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Former+maid+named+mother+Schwarzenegger+love+child/4805607/story.html |
| 23:22.41 | HP-X|Arthas | the reason for his divorce perhaps :D |
| 23:23.06 | HP-X|Arthas | Media don't dare to run that story like the tiger woods one! |
| 23:23.08 | Ashamed | yeah he is like 12 |
| 23:23.09 | HP-X|Arthas | They know arnold will find em |
| 23:23.16 | TheBaron87 | oh god she's hideous |
| 23:23.22 | Ashamed | yeah lol |
| 23:23.23 | TheBaron87 | why would he do that? D: |
| 23:23.29 | Ashamed | she was like a straigh mexican maid lol |
| 23:23.39 | HP-X|Arthas | .... |
| 23:23.40 | HP-X|Arthas | WHY |
| 23:23.42 | HP-X|Arthas | WHY |
| 23:23.48 | HP-X|Arthas | CANNOT BE UNSEEN |
| 23:23.54 | Ashamed | he did a good job at keeping it under the table |
| 23:23.56 | Ashamed | 12 years ago |
| 23:24.03 | Ashamed | and she has been working for him since then |
| 23:24.11 | Ashamed | well longer then that |
| 23:24.16 | Ashamed | like 30 years or something |
| 23:24.25 | Clord | >_> |
| 23:24.46 | Clord | there is point that if woman is too hot.. he might be not so for men |
| 23:24.59 | Clord | so progress carefully XD |
| 23:25.03 | Ashamed | riends of the family told The New York Times that they remembered Miss Baena's child as an "occasional presence" at the house. Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Former+maid+named+mother+Schwarzenegger+love+child/4805607/story.html#ixzz1MkWgqqBY |
| 23:25.06 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 23:25.24 | HP-X|Arthas | I dont wanna read more :| |
| 23:25.29 | Ashamed | lol i know |
| 23:25.29 | Clord | John Connor JR? |
| 23:25.32 | HP-X|Arthas | CANT HEAR YOU, WATCHING PUMPING IRON |
| 23:25.33 | Ashamed | i didnt want it to post that |
| 23:25.34 | Ashamed | stupid |
| 23:25.52 | *** join/#sc2mapster avogatro1 (~avogatro@nat-wh-hadi.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) |
| 23:25.54 | Ashamed | just the " child as an occasional presence" |
| 23:25.57 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord: well, arnold isnt connor :D |
| 23:25.58 | Ashamed | lol |
| 23:25.59 | Ashamed | pretty funny |
| 23:26.01 | HP-X|Arthas | so no. ^^ |
| 23:26.05 | Clord | I meant |
| 23:26.08 | Clord | he does that |
| 23:26.10 | Clord | with other |
| 23:26.12 | Clord | and tadaa |
| 23:26.15 | Clord | future john connor |
| 23:26.22 | Clord | tinfoil hat |
| 23:26.25 | Clord | skynet is nigh! |
| 23:26.29 | Clord | XD |
| 23:26.30 | Ashamed | oh no |
| 23:26.40 | Ashamed | didnt skynets date |
| 23:26.41 | Ashamed | already pass? |
| 23:26.44 | Ashamed | it was this year sometime |
| 23:26.48 | Clord | it can be chess machine or even 486! |
| 23:26.48 | HP-X|Arthas | Ashamed: depends |
| 23:27.10 | HP-X|Arthas | the terminator timeline is so messed up sooo :p |
| 23:27.16 | Clord | actually point was |
| 23:27.19 | Clord | that their messing with timeline |
| 23:27.22 | Clord | causes it to change |
| 23:27.25 | Clord | how it comes to power |
| 23:27.26 | Ashamed | yeah its april 19th 2011 |
| 23:27.27 | Ashamed | Skynet was implemented on April 19, 2011 |
| 23:27.27 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord: |
| 23:27.34 | Ashamed | so it just passed |
| 23:27.36 | Stewox | ... |
| 23:27.36 | HP-X|Arthas | i think they fucked up between terminator and terminator 2 aswell |
| 23:27.41 | Stewox | night guys |
| 23:27.42 | Stewox | zzz |
| 23:27.45 | HP-X|Arthas | nn Stewox |
| 23:27.46 | Ashamed | i just pulled that from the wiki >< |
| 23:27.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster ScytheBl1de1 (~Death@smtp.mail.averageurl.com) |
| 23:27.53 | Ashamed | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_%28Terminator%29 |
| 23:28.11 | Nash|327 | IT'S TODAY D:! |
| 23:28.18 | Ashamed | no |
| 23:28.20 | Ashamed | that was last month |
| 23:28.23 | Nash|327 | LIES |
| 23:28.23 | HP-X|Arthas | they should return sarah connor chronicles :( |
| 23:28.26 | Ashamed | its may now nash :) |
| 23:28.30 | Nash|327 | LIES |
| 23:28.31 | HP-X|Arthas | stop cancelling the shows im following damn you |
| 23:28.34 | Ashamed | and its only the 18th where i am |
| 23:28.46 | Nash|327 | D:< |
| 23:28.46 | HP-X|Arthas | its may |
| 23:28.50 | Clord | there is some rather crappy terminator games.. because some guys wanted to make quick buck |
| 23:28.52 | HP-X|Arthas | it launched almost a month ago :p |
| 23:28.53 | Nash|327 | YOU ARE IN THE PAST |
| 23:28.59 | Clord | instead giving developers time they needed |
| 23:29.03 | Ashamed | may would be the future nash |
| 23:29.04 | Ashamed | ... lol |
| 23:29.19 | Nash|327 | May is lies D; |
| 23:29.23 | Ashamed | ha |
| 23:29.26 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord: yeah. That's usually what happens with movie -> game titles :D |
| 23:29.47 | Clord | there was that promising multiplayer terminator game but it was rushed out probably years before acceptable level to sell |
| 23:30.01 | Clord | whatever name was again |
| 23:30.06 | HP-X|Arthas | gief terminator mmo! |
| 23:30.10 | HP-X|Arthas | without bale |
| 23:30.11 | Ashamed | i honestly dont like terminator very much |
| 23:30.23 | Ashamed | but it is one of the movies that the later ones i thought were actually better then the earlier ones |
| 23:30.32 | HP-X|Arthas | Ashamed: indeed |
| 23:30.36 | HP-X|Arthas | T2 > the rest |
| 23:30.46 | Clord | terminator 2.. director's cut or whatever |
| 23:30.49 | Ashamed | i didnt wathc the one with the war |
| 23:30.52 | HP-X|Arthas | I like T1, T2 and the series |
| 23:30.53 | Ashamed | but terminator 3 or w/e |
| 23:30.59 | HP-X|Arthas | T3 and T4 should never have been made imo |
| 23:31.02 | Clord | terminator 2's extended version rocks |
| 23:31.08 | Clord | it adds tons stuff to make more sense |
| 23:31.14 | Clord | XD |
| 23:31.14 | HP-X|Arthas | watched both 1 & 2 this weekend |
| 23:31.14 | Ashamed | i liked t3's action |
| 23:31.17 | Ashamed | but thats about it |
| 23:31.30 | HP-X|Arthas | I just thought T-X was stupid :p |
| 23:31.41 | Mexa | http://guy.dotnet-expertise.com/content/binary/Windows-Live-Writer/b05c6f60abcf_6E7D/SkyNet_2.jpg |
| 23:31.42 | Ashamed | which one was the one with christian bale? |
| 23:31.45 | Ashamed | i didnt watch that one |
| 23:31.47 | HP-X|Arthas | Salvation |
| 23:31.48 | HP-X|Arthas | #4 |
| 23:31.54 | Ashamed | yeah yet to see that shit |
| 23:31.55 | Clord | for example in extended version.... it is shown how that female thing tried to destroy termiator's chip who tried to protect them during shutdown |
| 23:31.58 | HP-X|Arthas | I hate bale |
| 23:31.58 | Ashamed | not planning on it either |
| 23:32.03 | Ashamed | yeah fucken retard |
| 23:32.03 | HP-X|Arthas | or hate |
| 23:32.09 | HP-X|Arthas | he's awesome in american psycho |
| 23:32.11 | Ashamed | yeah like the batman movies |
| 23:32.16 | Ashamed | i dont think are good at all |
| 23:32.18 | HP-X|Arthas | but i hate his cancer voice in batman |
| 23:32.18 | Clord | terminator 4 - salvation has arnold looking guy.. but it was digitally added to another actor |
| 23:32.19 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
| 23:32.30 | HP-X|Arthas | and his unmotivated acting in t4 ^^ |
| 23:32.33 | Ashamed | yeah arthas |
| 23:32.38 | Ashamed | his fucken voice in batman |
| 23:32.44 | Ashamed | i am always like how do you think that is good |
| 23:32.46 | Ashamed | that sounds horrid |
| 23:33.01 | Clord | if something previous batman movie series before reboot did better |
| 23:33.04 | Clord | was batman's actor |
| 23:33.09 | Clord | lol |
| 23:33.17 | HP-X|Arthas | On the other hand, I rewatched the batman movie from 1989 a few days ago |
| 23:33.19 | HP-X|Arthas | awesome movie! |
| 23:33.25 | Ashamed | -.- oh and another thing i say about batman.. is hedge ledgers role was not dark or scary at all |
| 23:33.27 | Nash|327 | ew |
| 23:33.31 | Ashamed | i didnt feel that once |
| 23:33.40 | Ashamed | and like so many people were like omg he is so scary and crazy |
| 23:33.41 | HP-X|Arthas | hehehe |
| 23:33.45 | Ashamed | and i was likeum.. i mean yeah he was crazy |
| 23:33.47 | Nash|327 | HEDGE LEDGER |
| 23:33.50 | Clord | Scarecrow |
| 23:33.51 | Clord | lol |
| 23:33.52 | HP-X|Arthas | I liked his character, i just didnt think it fit the joker |
| 23:33.53 | Nash|327 | BUSH BOOK |
| 23:33.58 | Clord | and what |
| 23:34.03 | HP-X|Arthas | I prefer nicholson's joker |
| 23:34.06 | Clord | two face lasted like ten minutes or something |
| 23:34.07 | Clord | XD |
| 23:34.16 | Clord | that villain was not long alive |
| 23:34.28 | Ashamed | yeah i dont think he did a bad job |
| 23:34.38 | Ashamed | but when all my friends saw the movie and they told me he was so fucken crazy |
| 23:34.42 | Ashamed | and that it was scary |
| 23:34.50 | Ashamed | i watched it.. and i was like um not.. just because he died |
| 23:34.57 | Ashamed | i am not going to just lie because the guy died |
| 23:35.14 | Ashamed | he didnt do a bad job at all.. but it wasn't this amazing dark role |
| 23:35.16 | HP-X|Arthas | scary.... |
| 23:35.20 | Clord | batman movies after reboot |
| 23:35.23 | HP-X|Arthas | been long since I watched a movie I found scary :( |
| 23:35.27 | Ashamed | yeah me too |
| 23:35.31 | Clord | guys who are nto familiar with background of the villains etc |
| 23:35.34 | Clord | not get tons of stuff |
| 23:35.35 | HP-X|Arthas | Alien did it right |
| 23:35.39 | HP-X|Arthas | The Thing |
| 23:35.50 | Clord | for example.. that scarecrow villain in the movie |
| 23:35.56 | HP-X|Arthas | I liked Event Horizon aswell (this one i might get bashed for! :p) |
| 23:35.59 | Clord | those who not are not familiar before of it.. not realize who he is XD |
| 23:36.08 | Clord | it is just some weirdo with sack |
| 23:36.11 | Clord | and some stuff |
| 23:36.18 | HP-X|Arthas | I liked the scarecrow :p |
| 23:36.23 | Ashamed | i never saw the first one >< |
| 23:36.25 | Clord | in that movie |
| 23:36.26 | Clord | it was joke |
| 23:36.28 | Clord | lol |
| 23:36.31 | Brainshack | well i loved that joker |
| 23:36.34 | Clord | it was just dude with sack on his head |
| 23:36.39 | HP-X|Arthas | Brainshack: which one |
| 23:36.42 | HP-X|Arthas | the real or the dead one |
| 23:37.01 | Brainshack | well i guess then u mean the dead one |
| 23:37.06 | Ashamed | didn't they pick some weird ass villian for the next one? |
| 23:37.08 | Brainshack | from the dark knight |
| 23:37.11 | HP-X|Arthas | Ashamed: |
| 23:37.13 | HP-X|Arthas | its catwoman |
| 23:37.17 | HP-X|Arthas | and bane |
| 23:37.18 | Brainshack | i mean |
| 23:37.21 | HP-X|Arthas | bane was in uhm |
| 23:37.25 | Brainshack | jack nicholson was a good one too |
| 23:37.27 | Ashamed | ewww |
| 23:37.28 | HP-X|Arthas | batman and robin I think |
| 23:37.29 | Ashamed | see they did |
| 23:37.29 | Clord | batman the animated series what has almost perfect score in IMDB |
| 23:37.30 | Clord | lol |
| 23:37.34 | Clord | it has best Joker variation |
| 23:37.35 | HP-X|Arthas | the one with arnold |
| 23:37.36 | Clord | it defines joker |
| 23:37.37 | Clord | lol |
| 23:37.52 | Clord | same voice actor voiced joker in that game too |
| 23:37.55 | Clord | what became mega hit |
| 23:37.55 | HP-X|Arthas | Clord: the one from ~90 with mark hamill |
| 23:37.57 | HP-X|Arthas | ? |
| 23:38.21 | Clord | same voice actor did arkham asylum game voice acting too for same character |
| 23:38.31 | Ashamed | i have not played that game |
| 23:38.34 | HP-X|Arthas | yeah its mark hamil aka skywalker |
| 23:38.35 | Ashamed | i heave heard it was good but short |
| 23:38.45 | Clord | I completed it 100% |
| 23:38.47 | Clord | ^^ |
| 23:38.50 | Clord | found all secrets |
| 23:38.57 | HP-X|Arthas | I tried demo, liked it. never got it :p |
| 23:38.59 | Ashamed | see like i said short |
| 23:39.01 | Ashamed | lol |
| 23:39.08 | Clord | but yeah |
| 23:39.11 | Clord | they made joker act similar |
| 23:39.14 | Clord | that of animated series |
| 23:39.19 | Clord | because it was best Joker variation ever |
| 23:39.27 | Clord | just bit more mature style |
| 23:39.59 | Clord | but yeah |
| 23:40.01 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa where did you go ;p |
| 23:40.03 | Ashamed | anyone see thor? |
| 23:40.04 | Clord | there was like only one real boss fight |
| 23:40.09 | Ashamed | i was going to go see it last week with the wife |
| 23:40.10 | Ashamed | but we missed it |
| 23:40.30 | HP-X|Arthas | havent seen it |
| 23:40.36 | HP-X|Arthas | heard it was entertaining though |
| 23:40.37 | Mexa | Watching IPL and doing some C# |
| 23:40.40 | Ashamed | but arthas it was 3D |
| 23:40.40 | Mexa | what about you`? |
| 23:40.46 | HP-X|Arthas | I dont like 3D :p |
| 23:40.55 | Ashamed | lol i was being sarcastic |
| 23:41.01 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa: spending time here when I should have gone to bed almost 2 hours ago |
| 23:41.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster Brainshack1 (~Christian@dslb-188-100-045-089.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:41.06 | Ashamed | yeah i have only seen 1 3d move and that was avatar |
| 23:41.10 | Mexa | Me too you know :p |
| 23:41.25 | Brainshack1 | yeah that was a nice one |
| 23:41.31 | Ashamed | i get to go home and start my night in 2 hours :) |
| 23:41.35 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa: :D |
| 23:41.48 | Dresnia | http://imageshack.us/m/263/9563/zooxw.jpg amidoingitrite ? :o |
| 23:41.49 | Mexa | I need to go to a lab class tomorrow at 8am.. I guess I wont do that |
| 23:41.49 | Ashamed | i thought avatar copied world of warcraft too much lol |
| 23:41.49 | Brainshack1 | i still dont get this traceline stuff to work :( |
| 23:41.57 | Mexa | oh well .-. |
| 23:42.32 | Mexa | Dresnia, that looks like a small go-kart circuit almost :d |
| 23:42.38 | Dresnia | haha |
| 23:42.43 | Dresnia | it's a small zoo arena ! |
| 23:42.59 | Mexa | ah |
| 23:43.06 | Brainshack1 | lol |
| 23:43.12 | Brainshack1 | now that you say it it makes sense |
| 23:43.12 | Ashamed | why are you making a zoo arena? |
| 23:43.14 | Brainshack1 | looks neat |
| 23:43.36 | Dresnia | well : http://imageshack.us/m/829/5039/arenaju.jpg |
| 23:43.38 | Brainshack | did anybody ever make a traceline function for 3rd person aiming? |
| 23:43.38 | Dresnia | :P |
| 23:44.14 | Dresnia | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/21591-untitled-hero-survival-arena-showcase-requesting-feedback/ |
| 23:45.46 | Dresnia | re-creating 'normal' arenas that look somewhat realistic |
| 23:45.50 | Ashamed | oh anyone hear of them religion nuts |
| 23:45.59 | Ashamed | trying to predict that the world ends this saturday/sunday |
| 23:46.21 | Brainshack | sure it does |
| 23:46.22 | Dresnia | That would be cool |
| 23:46.33 | Dresnia | Nothing beats rerolling |
| 23:46.35 | Dresnia | :-D |
| 23:46.43 | Brainshack | since im seeing the new pirates of the caribian |
| 23:47.01 | Brainshack | the first time for years ill enter a cinema |
| 23:47.05 | HP-X|Arthas | Ashamed: yeah |
| 23:47.20 | Brainshack | and i guess i will be struck by an asteroid once i take a seat |
| 23:47.53 | Ashamed | no |
| 23:47.55 | Dresnia | AMAZING 3D WTF |
| 23:47.55 | Ashamed | giant earthquake |
| 23:47.56 | Dresnia | :p |
| 23:48.00 | Ashamed | you will be sucked into the earth |
| 23:48.12 | Dresnia | Ah, dying while getting a epic blowjob. |
| 23:48.14 | Ashamed | i cant believe people still believe in God >< |
| 23:48.15 | Dresnia | Every mans dream right |
| 23:48.38 | Dresnia | if God created people we would all be stupid as fuck from 2000years of incest |
| 23:48.44 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 23:48.49 | Ashamed | exactly ha |
| 23:49.16 | Dresnia | Evolution is the true story really |
| 23:49.25 | Mexa | Maybe he created people like we create figurines made of clay. You don't breed clay. :p |
| 23:49.41 | Ashamed | i dunno i just dont see how its fair that God was so active in the Church before he sent jesus.. and then he is going to become active again for the end people.. waht about all the people in the middle that went to hell.. whyc couldn't god show them anything? |
| 23:49.57 | Ashamed | its becasue we can't prove the begining or the end..... but we can experince the "middle" because we live in that :) |
| 23:50.25 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa: I breed clay! |
| 23:50.29 | Ashamed | oh shiz |
| 23:50.30 | UloseTheGame_ | who's a terrainer in here? |
| 23:50.33 | UloseTheGame_ | I'm looking for one |
| 23:50.38 | HP-X|Arthas | Dresnia I think |
| 23:50.39 | Ashamed | religion will be dead soon |
| 23:50.46 | Ashamed | it gets smaller and smaller every year |
| 23:50.47 | Brainshack | it all started with the big bang! |
| 23:50.57 | Mexa | Stephen hawking once said that the entire universe might as well be placed ontop of a pyramid made of sea turtles. We cannot prove him wrong, thus it might be true, but logically not :) |
| 23:51.02 | Ashamed | i mean i dont think the big bang is neccarly how it all started |
| 23:51.06 | Ashamed | i think that is kinda crazy idea too |
| 23:51.12 | Ashamed | creation with an explosion .. yah ok |
| 23:51.19 | UloseTheGame_ | -query dresnia |
| 23:51.26 | UloseTheGame_ | ~query dresnia |
| 23:51.28 | UloseTheGame_ | meh |
| 23:51.32 | Dresnia | ?? |
| 23:51.34 | UloseTheGame_ | how to private message? |
| 23:51.44 | Ashamed | i know any explosion I have ever seen with my eyes |
| 23:51.44 | Mexa | pressing query at the namre |
| 23:51.46 | Ashamed | only kills |
| 23:51.46 | HP-X|Arthas | UloseTheGame_: /query Dresnia |
| 23:51.47 | Mexa | *name |
| 23:51.49 | Dresnia | click my name ? idk lol |
| 23:52.05 | Ashamed | I am a firm believer in only beliving what you have experianced |
| 23:52.26 | Ashamed | i mean its ok to have ideas.. but almost everything we are told |
| 23:52.30 | Ashamed | we have not even experianced |
| 23:52.44 | Mexa | Here's a fun fact. We will never be able to discover the entire universe, because it is continuously expanding. |
| 23:52.52 | Ashamed | someone telling me what a black hole is.. doesn't really prove to me they know what a black hole is |
| 23:53.04 | Ashamed | i am like so you have traveled to one?? |
| 23:53.09 | Ashamed | um no we have taken pictures! |
| 23:53.12 | Ashamed | oh really.. nice |
| 23:53.23 | UloseTheGame_ | But then our knowledge pool is incredibly limited |
| 23:53.24 | Ashamed | columbus also thought america was asia |
| 23:53.25 | HP-X|Arthas | Mexa: some theories say it will stop expanding at some point and start moving back towards the center |
| 23:53.28 | HP-X|Arthas | so never say never |
| 23:53.29 | UloseTheGame_ | what we know as humans we then pool |
| 23:53.36 | UloseTheGame_ | so that we may know more |
| 23:53.43 | Mexa | Black holes are actually a case which is against the laws of physics discovered |
| 23:53.46 | UloseTheGame_ | we would know so little without the sharing of knowledge |
| 23:53.53 | UloseTheGame_ | i see where you are coming from ashamed |
| 23:53.55 | Mexa | Such as einsteins relativity theory |
| 23:54.01 | Ashamed | but we dont know if thats the case mexa |
| 23:54.12 | Dresnia | UloseTheGame you want to query me |
| 23:54.15 | Mexa | If it is the case, then it is violating the laws |
| 23:54.16 | UloseTheGame_ | yes |
| 23:54.16 | Dresnia | query is private message |
| 23:54.18 | Dresnia | or wtf |
| 23:54.22 | Ashamed | how do you know! |
| 23:54.34 | Ashamed | how do you know something is violating a law through a fucking picture |
| 23:54.37 | Mexa | Because I saw a documentary of them explaining so |
| 23:54.42 | Brainshack | can i force a unit to be selected? |
| 23:54.44 | Ashamed | well that doesn't make ti true |
| 23:54.52 | Ashamed | we have never ever seen a black hole with our own eyes |
| 23:54.57 | Mexa | Ashamed, I said 'if', you know |
| 23:54.58 | Ashamed | and i am not saying they are wrong |
| 23:55.09 | Brainshack | you cant see black holes :P |
| 23:55.12 | Ashamed | but i just choose not to say oh that must be the facts |
| 23:55.30 | Ashamed | .... because i know how wrong and limited our views are |
| 23:55.31 | Ashamed | period |
| 23:55.36 | Mexa | They have pictures which may be places in space being black holes |
| 23:55.39 | Brainshack | except of mine |
| 23:55.40 | Brainshack | soooooooo |
| 23:55.44 | Mexa | may |
| 23:55.46 | Brainshack | can i force a unit to be selected? |
| 23:56.01 | Mexa | Don't ask me how they come up with the theories, but I am buying most of it |
| 23:56.02 | Mexa | :> |
| 23:56.08 | Ashamed | we have prob travled .00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of space...... so anyone try to tell me about anything besides out fucken moon.. i am like well that seems logical and may be true |
| 23:56.12 | Ashamed | but i will never take it as facts |
| 23:56.22 | Ashamed | our* |
| 23:56.26 | Mexa | We will never travel 100% of space |
| 23:56.30 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 23:56.30 | Mexa | It is expanding |
| 23:56.41 | Brainshack | you dont need to travel anywhere to be able to see it |
| 23:56.47 | Ashamed | but i choose not to take anything as factrs.. before we have even made it to a planet |
| 23:57.06 | Ashamed | well columbus looked across the ocean and saw asia :) |
| 23:57.36 | Brainshack | no but you can look quite far into space |
| 23:57.51 | Ashamed | but that is a picture |
| 23:57.58 | Ashamed | its nothing more |
| 23:58.12 | Ashamed | Hey i am not saying the theories are wrong |
| 23:58.15 | Ashamed | but i am not saying they are right |
| 23:58.20 | Brainshack | pictures tell more then 1000 words |
| 23:58.26 | Ashamed | question everything.. everything we hear now adays is hear say |
| 23:58.32 | Ashamed | someone else telling you something is so |
| 23:58.41 | Brainshack | guess thats a good idea |
| 23:58.46 | Ashamed | well 1000 words isn't very much |
| 23:59.23 | Ashamed | and i am not ignorant ... i mean i am not the type of person to deny obv things |
| 23:59.26 | Ashamed | like evolution |
| 23:59.27 | Ashamed | or gravity |
| 23:59.34 | Ashamed | because we can experiance that ourselfs |
| 23:59.40 | Ashamed | i just question things that we can't experiance |
| 23:59.49 | Brainshack | yeah but you can always question things |
| 23:59.55 | Brainshack | i think thats not too bad |
| 23:59.59 | Brainshack | like evolution |
