| 00:00.07 | RodOfNOD | yep |
| 00:00.13 | AlphA_VsT | currently if someone wants to hack it they can |
| 00:00.20 | RodOfNOD | how alpha |
| 00:00.42 | JademusSreg | The interesting question is whether or not the checksum generator function has been cracked by the hacking community. |
| 00:00.52 | RodOfNOD | thats a different issue |
| 00:00.57 | RodOfNOD | andwould require an external program |
| 00:01.07 | RodOfNOD | im talking about can the file behacked using nothing more than the editor |
| 00:01.27 | JademusSreg | Oh. Naw, probably not. |
| 00:01.35 | JademusSreg | Accessing the file alone would be problematic. |
| 00:01.39 | RodOfNOD | ie some joker cant just do it if the want |
| 00:01.43 | AlphA_VsT | but onloy a moron would try to use the editor |
| 00:01.48 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 00:01.50 | RodOfNOD | well i meannotepad |
| 00:01.54 | JademusSreg | Oh, |
| 00:01.56 | RodOfNOD | and a winmpq |
| 00:02.54 | RodOfNOD | the article i read implied that the checksum doesnt use the owner of the map or the map #s as part of the checksum |
| 00:03.33 | RodOfNOD | and if blizzard really did that then they are jsut stupid |
| 00:04.10 | JademusSreg | Generate a bank with signature enabled and take a look. =D |
| 00:04.55 | RodOfNOD | yea i guess im gonna have to |
| 00:05.03 | RodOfNOD | i was hoping someone would know for sure |
| 00:05.11 | RodOfNOD | so i can tell the map maker that he is SAFE |
| 00:05.20 | AlphA_VsT | hes not though |
| 00:05.28 | RodOfNOD | ui was trying to avoid having to do real work |
| 00:05.31 | RodOfNOD | how is he not safe |
| 00:06.00 | AlphA_VsT | if someone wants to hack the bank they can |
| 00:10.46 | JademusSreg | Checksum generation function has probably already been cracked, I bet. But it's not like I have contacts in that community; I'm just guessing. |
| 00:11.47 | JademusSreg | But some noob wouldn't be able to break the checksum without some reference; you have nothing to fear from the average user. |
| 00:12.16 | AlphA_VsT | of course not |
| 00:13.38 | AlphA_VsT | isnt the checksum still unreliable though? |
| 00:13.51 | AlphA_VsT | as in its broken :P |
| 00:14.13 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I've heard that. But I can't attest to the veracity of those accounts. |
| 00:16.06 | AlphA_VsT | same |
| 00:42.55 | Xapti | oh hey... when did 1.3.3 pop up? (US) |
| 00:50.06 | Shawn|Rawr | Today |
| 00:50.08 | Shawn|Rawr | This morning |
| 00:50.11 | JademusSreg | Oh shit. Wahaha |
| 00:50.19 | JademusSreg | Thors now have energy. |
| 00:50.35 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes. They changed it to the way it used to be |
| 00:50.56 | JademusSreg | Feeeeeeeedback |
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| 00:52.37 | Shawn|Rawr | OHHHHH YEAHHHHH |
| 00:52.46 | JademusSreg | People might see it as a buff, but it's also the introduction of a new vulnerability. |
| 00:52.59 | Shawn|Rawr | Actually, the re-introduction |
| 00:53.04 | JademusSreg | Hush. =D |
| 00:53.22 | JademusSreg | I don't remember, so it's new to me. |
| 00:53.35 | Shawn|Rawr | It might have been back in beta |
| 00:53.42 | Shawn|Rawr | I dont remember when they changed it |
| 00:54.53 | JademusSreg | I'm watching: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/OneMoreGame |
| 00:54.55 | AlphA_VsT | new patc h |
| 00:54.57 | AlphA_VsT | really |
| 00:55.06 | Shawn|Rawr | No, we're joking |
| 00:55.07 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 00:55.13 | Shawn|Rawr | Don't lie Jade |
| 00:55.18 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:55.21 | Shawn|Rawr | We've been found out |
| 00:55.26 | Shawn|Rawr | The jig is up, whatever that means |
| 00:55.32 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 01:00.50 | JademusSreg | Sooner sentries are en route. |
| 01:01.28 | AlphA_VsT | but they didnt lower zealots and shit also :( |
| 01:01.33 | JademusSreg | I'm definitely looking forward to feedback on Thors. Will be hilarious. |
| 01:01.50 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 01:02.07 | JademusSreg | Feedback the Thor, then Psistorm the SCVs fucking it. |
| 01:02.18 | AlphA_VsT | YAY! |
| 01:02.42 | AlphA_VsT | i have to see how that changes how i play now though QQ |
| 01:02.52 | AlphA_VsT | im on a 8 win streak also 0.o |
| 01:03.16 | AlphA_VsT | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Artosis |
| 01:03.18 | AlphA_VsT | YAY! |
| 01:03.38 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 01:03.41 | JademusSreg | I'm there too. |
| 01:03.46 | AlphA_VsT | i <3 artosis |
| 01:04.16 | AlphA_VsT | being a announcer he gives really helpful insight while he plays |
| 01:04.24 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 01:04.34 | JademusSreg | One of the few commenters I don't think is unbearable. |
| 01:05.04 | JademusSreg | I haven't seen day9 do live commentation; I'd like to see that. |
| 01:05.20 | Xapti | I dont' care for artosis as much since he changed to protoss |
| 01:06.29 | JademusSreg | Why the fuck are there supply depots on that map? |
| 01:07.00 | AlphA_VsT | its a gsl or soem shit |
| 01:07.11 | AlphA_VsT | its a ballance thing and its stupid if you ask me |
| 01:07.40 | JademusSreg | Yeah, looks stupid. |
| 01:09.11 | Stewox | LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL |
| 01:09.14 | Xapti | talking about metalopolis? |
| 01:09.21 | Xapti | or teminus? |
| 01:09.24 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 01:09.28 | Stewox | MY Super LOW Textures tweak actually has some REAL USEFULNESS :D |
| 01:09.28 | Xapti | or a map I don't know about? |
| 01:09.30 | JademusSreg | The Artosis feed, |
| 01:09.36 | Stewox | some guys PMED me about it hahahahahah :D |
| 01:09.38 | Stewox | win |
| 01:09.50 | AlphA_VsT | im sure it doesnt :P |
| 01:10.00 | Xapti | supply depots on tal'darim alter? |
| 01:10.10 | Xapti | oh shaterred |
| 01:10.15 | Stewox | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/super-lowhigh-texture-tweak-1-3/ |
| 01:10.22 | Stewox | would you bet |
| 01:10.40 | Xapti | I hated that barracks-depot wall |
| 01:10.42 | Xapti | it was so cheap |
| 01:11.02 | Stewox | some guy praised me , he uses an intel GMA , IPG GPU , (integrated) and he can't play Sc2 without my tweak :D |
| 01:11.11 | JademusSreg | It's goddamn silly to have those lowered depots. |
| 01:11.15 | JademusSreg | Also, awesome Stew. |
| 01:11.19 | Xapti | awesome stewox... |
| 01:11.29 | JademusSreg | You're helping people, doing good, righting wrongs. =D |
| 01:11.31 | AlphA_VsT | thats kinda sad |
| 01:11.33 | Xapti | I don't know why game developpers don't do stuff liek that themselves |
| 01:11.51 | Stewox | ... lol cause i did that only for fun |
| 01:12.01 | Stewox | i never expected serious feedback/use |
| 01:12.04 | Xapti | Stewox do you know anything about changing lighting/effects in sc2? (not for custom maps) |
| 01:12.31 | Xapti | I was thinking it's possibly a hidden option in variables.txt, but no iea if it's the case (since it would be hidden) |
| 01:12.49 | Xapti | anyway, what I want is to be able to disable all lighting |
| 01:12.58 | Xapti | it can be done in the map editor |
| 01:13.07 | Xapti | but seemingly not for SC2 |
| 01:13.27 | Xapti | ("view" "show lighting" "none") |
| 01:15.02 | Stewox | Xapti |
| 01:15.04 | Stewox | hmm |
| 01:15.11 | Stewox | i'll take a look tomorrow |
| 01:15.15 | Xapti | thanks a lot |
| 01:15.20 | Stewox | but this is not a variables.txt mod |
| 01:15.35 | JademusSreg | Looks like Artosis is boned that game. |
| 01:15.37 | Stewox | it's something else everyone missed |
| 01:15.39 | Xapti | what you did already, I know |
| 01:15.50 | Xapti | man Artosis needs&needed more cannons and gateways |
| 01:15.59 | Stewox | which was quite obviosus |
| 01:16.05 | Stewox | What i did already ? |
| 01:16.11 | Xapti | the low texture thing |
| 01:16.23 | Stewox | .... yes but you don't know what i changed :P |
| 01:16.50 | Stewox | so im replying that it's not a simple variables.txt mod |
| 01:17.04 | Stewox | i have researched variables.txt |
| 01:17.22 | Xapti | how do you know it can't be done through variables.txt? |
| 01:17.24 | Stewox | and found all CMDs attached to GUI options |
| 01:17.31 | Stewox | because i know :) |
| 01:18.15 | Xapti | do you know hidden things that CAN be done throug variables.txt? |
| 01:18.15 | Stewox | variables.txt only has like a few hidden options , not much though |
| 01:18.36 | Stewox | however i got the data and i have to anaylze which GUI option is attached to what CVARS |
| 01:18.58 | Stewox | i haven't had time to do that since it's a lot of checking and takes some time |
| 01:19.03 | Stewox | but i'll do it tomorrow |
| 01:19.07 | Xapti | aside from like fps cap (if that is even hidden anymore), I only know of "fog" value |
| 01:19.08 | Xapti | cool |
| 01:19.42 | Stewox | no im just regarding the existing options to which GUI changes them |
| 01:20.11 | Stewox | that will reveal if there are any CVARS which aren't changed at any time , never changed via INGAME GUI |
| 01:20.23 | Stewox | then ... after this , is the hunt for hidden ones |
| 01:20.44 | Stewox | i surely do know what you mean with "hidden" don't worry :) |
| 01:20.58 | Xapti | Artosis needed more VR/HT :o |
| 01:21.10 | Xapti | not even any robo rebuilt |
| 01:22.22 | Stewox | ok guys calling a night here , cya |
| 01:22.43 | Xapti | later |
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| 01:39.05 | Xapti | Guys, what's the difference between the function "unit has behavior", and "unit [has] behavior enabled" |
| 01:40.23 | JademusSreg | Behaviors can be disabled, yeah? |
| 01:40.33 | JademusSreg | Via modification, iirc |
| 01:41.34 | JademusSreg | Artosis use of cannons looks sloppy, I opine. |
| 01:41.48 | Xapti | what's the point of querying if a unit has a behavior if it's not enabled then I wonder |
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| 01:42.10 | Xapti | I guess I could sorta see a use... just seems weird |
| 01:42.48 | JademusSreg | Dunno. I always remove/add behavior rather than disable/enable, personally. But I could see its use when behaviors are persistent for the unit type. |
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| 02:05.01 | UloseTheGame | Jade |
| 02:05.09 | UloseTheGame | i love your name, Owen Alacaster :D |
| 02:05.24 | UloseTheGame | is that your REAL name? |
| 02:06.11 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
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| 02:20.46 | AlphA_VsT | RAWR! |
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| 02:41.15 | Mephs | does sending a portrait actor a scale message also move it's built in model cameras? |
| 02:45.10 | AlphA_VsT | no idea |
| 02:47.15 | Mephs | wait nevermind |
| 02:47.19 | Mephs | apparently they spelled the camera wrong |
| 02:47.22 | Mephs | fuckin blizzard lol |
| 02:47.30 | Mephs | so i'm here spelling it right, and they misspelled it no wonder its not working |
| 02:52.02 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
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| 02:54.43 | Mexa | Hello all |
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| 03:55.48 | Mexa | I never realised how many youtube accs who actually got hacked |
| 03:55.50 | Mexa | lol |
| 03:55.50 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/results?suggested_categories=25%2C22%2C23%2C20%2C24&search_query=hacked+by%2C+channel |
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| 03:56.24 | Bounty | HAY GUYZ |
| 03:58.47 | Mexa | sup Bounty |
| 03:58.53 | Bounty | n2m u |
| 03:59.10 | Mexa | chillin, watching hacked youtube accs <.< |
| 03:59.26 | Mexa | Was playing Nimbus a while ago.. |
| 03:59.27 | Mephs | is there a way |
| 03:59.41 | Mephs | to avoid having to select a portrait camera? |
| 03:59.44 | Mephs | when you create a portrait |
| 03:59.58 | Mexa | what about setting it to null? |
| 04:00.08 | Mephs | does null work? |
| 04:00.12 | Bounty | What are you trying to do Mephs |
| 04:00.19 | Mephs | trying to zoom in real close to a portrait |
| 04:00.22 | Mexa | I haven't tested it, but it was a suggestion |
| 04:00.34 | Mephs | its a string value |
| 04:00.41 | Mexa | strings can be null |
| 04:00.57 | Bounty | I'm sure there is a way |
| 04:01.13 | Bounty | Not sure off the top of my head, i've only use portraits to emulate a FPS |
| 04:01.13 | Mexa | But whether the API will accept null or empty strings I'm undure of :p |
| 04:01.21 | Mexa | *unsure |
| 04:01.24 | Mephs | yea tryin it now |
| 04:01.32 | Mephs | thing is i want to use scaling to get that zooming effect |
| 04:01.39 | Mephs | but the problem is it defaults to a model camera |
| 04:01.46 | Mephs | so you scale the model |
| 04:01.49 | Mephs | well the cameras scale with it |
| 04:02.42 | Mephs | dont think empty string worked |
| 04:02.48 | Mephs | i'll try putting in null as a custom script |
| 04:03.42 | Mexa | http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/8481330/Alarm-over-EU-Great-Firewall-proposal.html lolwtf |
| 04:04.15 | Bounty | i think im gonna stream nonesense in between development of my map |
| 04:04.24 | Bounty | like, maybe ill stream terribad games lol |
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| 04:04.41 | Mephs | no dice |
| 04:04.42 | Mephs | bah |
| 04:06.05 | Mexa | Weei... a huge giant virtual wall |
| 04:08.14 | Bounty | streaming myself watching a comedy special |
| 04:08.20 | Bounty | www.livestream.com/bounty_98 |
| 04:08.22 | Bounty | lololol |
| 04:11.01 | Bounty | Mexa, you there? |
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| 04:16.46 | Mexa | Bounty, sup`? |
| 04:17.00 | Bounty | can you go to my stream and tell me how it looks/sounds |
| 04:17.19 | Xapti | OOPS lol. I ran sc2 a long-ass time ago when myeditor was running |
| 04:17.54 | Xapti | and it ran the updater, and forgot about it. Turns out it was waiting at 70% for hte editor to be closed, and now that I finally closed it, it's still stuck >,< |
| 04:18.05 | Xapti | oh wait nevemrind it's not stuck |
| 04:18.17 | Xapti | it sure was patient for me :) |
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| 04:45.59 | Bounty | Bored? Come watch my stream of me watching a comedy special :) |
| 04:46.06 | Bounty | www.livestream.com/bounty_98 |
| 04:46.10 | Bounty | trololol |
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| 04:58.05 | AlphA_VsT | lol bounty |
| 04:58.15 | Bounty | :) |
| 04:58.20 | Bounty | its uncensored |
| 04:58.29 | Bounty | lolol |
| 04:58.39 | AlphA_VsT | so |
| 04:58.44 | AlphA_VsT | i have hbo also 0.o |
| 04:59.01 | Bounty | yeah but i bet this special isnt on there lol |
| 04:59.28 | AlphA_VsT | i dont care not like i fucking watch that shit |
| 04:59.40 | Bounty | alright |
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| 05:02.11 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 05:06.24 | Keyeszx | What's IRC for? |
| 05:08.14 | Mephs | chicken |
| 05:08.56 | Shawn|Rawr | No mephs, that's KFC |
| 05:09.05 | Keyeszx | I thought that was Popeye's |
| 05:09.37 | Shawn|Rawr | IRC, like the rest of the internet, is for porn |
| 05:09.44 | Mephs | and chicken |
| 05:12.31 | Keyeszx | Rule 34 I see |
| 05:17.53 | Mexa | hey Mephs, will you stream the gsl? |
| 05:17.53 | AlphA_VsT | irc porn? |
| 05:18.16 | AlphA_VsT | how would you draw that 0.o |
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| 05:18.54 | AlphA_VsT | GOMTV BLOWS! |
| 05:19.06 | Mexa | Why do you think I asked Mephs to stream it? |
| 05:19.08 | Mexa | Also |
| 05:19.15 | Mexa | It's Huk vs some Korean right now |
| 05:19.27 | Mexa | I mean Slayers_MMA |
| 05:20.03 | Mexa | But yep, the free stream has shit quality |
| 05:20.22 | AlphA_VsT | its the fact that they have some bullshit plugin |
| 05:20.28 | AlphA_VsT | fuck that |
| 05:20.52 | AlphA_VsT | and im not going to watch something like that if i have to pay for it |
| 05:21.40 | Mexa | Alpha |
| 05:21.49 | Mexa | Why do you think I asked Mephs to put it up? |
| 05:21.53 | Mexa | :) |
| 05:22.04 | AlphA_VsT | lol i know |
| 05:22.21 | AlphA_VsT | but then that means he paid for some shitty thing like that |
| 05:22.27 | Mexa | no |
| 05:22.32 | Mexa | His stream is as low |
| 05:22.41 | Mexa | But at least you wont be needing to install the gomplayer |
| 05:22.45 | AlphA_VsT | oh |
| 05:22.46 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:22.55 | AlphA_VsT | thats just silly then |
| 05:23.04 | Mexa | kthxbai then |
| 05:23.05 | AlphA_VsT | might as well ignore the whole thing |
| 05:23.31 | JademusSreg | Goddamn my lag tonight. |
| 05:23.35 | JademusSreg | Makes me so pissed. |
| 05:24.02 | AlphA_VsT | RAGE JADE RAGE!!!! |
| 05:24.10 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I'm done. |
| 05:24.15 | Mexa | Alpha, hey anyway, since it is South Korea, that is how they make money |
| 05:24.15 | JademusSreg | GSL link? |
| 05:24.22 | Mexa | Since it is so overly popular |
| 05:24.36 | Mexa | Jade, you'll have to download the gomplayer I guess |
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| 05:25.12 | griffin_ | Hello i have some editing questions |
| 05:25.30 | JademusSreg | Aw. His stream is offline. |
| 05:25.57 | JademusSreg | Grr. Gomplayer. I bet they want my email address. |
| 05:26.10 | Mexa | They want you to register an account, so I guess so |
| 05:26.21 | Mexa | I just used my old shitty hotmail |
| 05:26.36 | Mexa | Never use it for something not "serious" |
| 05:26.43 | JademusSreg | They'll want to send me a confirmation email I guess? |
| 05:26.53 | Mexa | I don't remember |
| 05:26.57 | Mexa | But probably |
| 05:27.10 | JademusSreg | Maaan. That's two emails I can't use. |
| 05:28.15 | JademusSreg | Ugh. Fine I'll give them my email. But I won't be happy about it. |
| 05:28.32 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:28.39 | AlphA_VsT | why cant you use the email? |
| 05:28.40 | griffin_ | How do i edit a model in warcraft 3 |
| 05:28.44 | griffin_ | like a human town hall |
| 05:28.55 | Mexa | I guess with magos model editor |
| 05:28.58 | AlphA_VsT | you get 3dsmax |
| 05:28.59 | griffin_ | i still want to lower their heights >.> |
| 05:29.12 | griffin_ | I successfully lowered a town hall through movement - height |
| 05:29.16 | griffin_ | and it shows in the editor |
| 05:29.18 | griffin_ | but not ingame |
| 05:29.28 | Mexa | Then you didn't successfully lower it |
| 05:29.42 | griffin_ | Well partially i did, it shows up on the editor screen perfectly |
| 05:29.43 | Mexa | Trust me, the editor is not wysiwyg |
| 05:31.39 | Mexa | ... south korean commentators, ow wow, they are pretty annoying |
| 05:31.44 | Mexa | And like all over the place |
| 05:31.48 | Mexa | .__ |
| 05:31.51 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 05:32.17 | Mexa | extremely overhyped from every moments |
| 05:32.40 | Mexa | Oh nice |
| 05:32.46 | Mexa | Next match is with NesTea |
| 05:32.49 | griffin_ | a lot of E sport people ::: the whole scene are losers |
| 05:33.02 | Mexa | what scene? |
| 05:33.08 | JademusSreg | Oh shit. |
| 05:33.11 | griffin_ | Players / commentators / etc |
| 05:33.17 | JademusSreg | NesTea is next. Sweet. |
| 05:33.37 | Mexa | griffin_ well I mean, what are you doing here, if you are speaking so kind of us` |
| 05:33.42 | Mexa | lol |
| 05:33.48 | griffin_ | Um |
| 05:33.52 | griffin_ | This is a map making community |
| 05:34.00 | griffin_ | this isnt necessarily e sports |
| 05:34.06 | Mexa | But we're also players aren't we |
| 05:34.17 | griffin_ | Player as in , a competitor in the e sports team |
| 05:34.22 | griffin_ | scene* |
| 05:34.25 | Mexa | I kind of disagree |
| 05:34.30 | Mexa | They deliver a good show |
| 05:34.42 | JademusSreg | Inca vs NesTea, yeah? |
| 05:34.54 | griffin_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:34.58 | Mexa | what? no I think it's NesTea vs ME |
| 05:35.07 | Mexa | lol |
| 05:35.11 | JademusSreg | Awww. |
| 05:35.19 | JademusSreg | I was hoping for NesTea vs Inca. |
| 05:35.22 | Mexa | Maybe you shouldn't compare league/melee games with custom games. |
| 05:35.39 | griffin_ | um |
| 05:35.40 | Mexa | also Imo, user content is rarely more balanced |
| 05:35.44 | griffin_ | When did i ever compare them |
| 05:35.48 | griffin_ | league / melee vs custom |
| 05:36.04 | Mexa | Oh, I thought you talked about Poker TD or something |
| 05:36.07 | Mexa | <-< |
| 05:36.11 | griffin_ | Poker as in |
| 05:36.17 | griffin_ | Poker Texas Hold em the card game |
| 05:36.23 | Mexa | meh lol |
| 05:36.26 | Mexa | Poker... |
| 05:36.35 | Mexa | FPS games more balanced? like how |
| 05:36.39 | Mexa | Because you are one character? |
| 05:36.43 | griffin_ | Chess and Poker are perfectly balanced ::: the only imbalance in chess is who goes first |
| 05:36.56 | Mexa | w/e |
| 05:37.00 | Mexa | :> |
| 05:38.01 | Mexa | Pong is also a balanced game.. |
| 05:38.16 | Mexa | Anyways, off GSL |
| 05:39.21 | griffin_ | yes |
| 05:39.23 | Mexa | griffin_ what's with the use of ::: anyway? |
| 05:39.25 | griffin_ | Pong is definitely balanced |
| 05:40.43 | Mexa | Wait what |
| 05:40.49 | Mexa | This isn't NesTea |
| 05:41.27 | AlphA_VsT | YAY it worked lol |
| 05:42.14 | Mexa | JademusSreg, it's MVP_viOlet vs ZeNEXKyrix :v |
| 05:42.15 | JademusSreg | Oh man. |
| 05:42.30 | JademusSreg | 6 minutes in, already thrashed. |
| 05:42.35 | Mexa | wow, yeah lol |
| 05:42.52 | AlphA_VsT | stop watching shitty gomtv :D |
| 05:43.04 | JademusSreg | What should I be watching? |
| 05:43.04 | Mexa | no :D |
| 05:45.09 | Mexa | At least the commentators here are better than the nasl ones |
| 05:45.12 | Mexa | ._> |
| 05:45.16 | JademusSreg | Srsly |
| 05:46.37 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:46.53 | JademusSreg | Competitive Starcraft 2 is about as close as I come to being a sports fan as I'll ever be. |
| 05:47.00 | AlphA_VsT | the asain guy in nasl is very lame the fat one is good |
| 05:47.11 | JademusSreg | The Fat One. |
| 05:47.13 | JademusSreg | STEMBLE |
| 05:47.32 | Mexa | I never noticed any large difference of their casting |
| 05:47.43 | Mexa | lol, fat one |
| 05:47.46 | AlphA_VsT | yes the fat one with the model for the g/f |
| 05:47.54 | AlphA_VsT | or what ever she is |
| 05:48.03 | JademusSreg | His name is InControl, he is amusing. |
| 05:48.06 | Mexa | a model gf? |
| 05:48.54 | AlphA_VsT | yeah shes hot and does beauty pageants and shit |
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| 05:49.34 | Mexa | that's nice, lol |
| 05:50.06 | AlphA_VsT | ok shes not as hot as she seemed on webcam but still |
| 05:50.11 | AlphA_VsT | http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs002.ash2/33453_712071441158_19706356_39832741_5131374_n.jpg |
| 05:50.48 | Mexa | She's miss oregon :v? |
| 05:51.12 | AlphA_VsT | yes |
| 05:51.58 | AlphA_VsT | anna prosser miss oregon google it |
| 05:52.42 | AlphA_VsT | http://www.pageantupdate.info/missusa2011/delegates/images/oregon/appear5.jpg see |
| 05:53.25 | Mexa | aha |
| 05:54.02 | AlphA_VsT | anyways |
| 05:54.29 | Mexa | derp indeed |
| 05:56.43 | AlphA_VsT | I would fuck her :P |
| 05:57.59 | Mexa | If she weren't as blonde as most of queen miss models are. |
| 06:07.16 | Mexa | JademusSreg, the final with InCa vs NesTea is on the 14th of May |
| 06:08.04 | JademusSreg | Awwww. |
| 06:08.42 | AlphA_VsT | and shes to white for me also |
| 06:08.43 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 06:10.10 | Mexa | PERFECT BANELING |
| 06:11.47 | AlphA_VsT | RAWR |
| 06:11.47 | Mexa | Lol, how random.. two guys outside was carrying around on a bench |
| 06:12.15 | JademusSreg | The topic on TL is pretty active, neat. |
| 06:12.28 | JademusSreg | Kinda funny, too, given the site's melee orientation. |
| 06:12.37 | AlphA_VsT | fucking hell now im all sad and shit :P fucking females grrrr |
| 06:12.48 | JademusSreg | Wha? |
| 06:13.12 | JademusSreg | Females are great. Fuck, I wish I were female. That would be great. |
| 06:14.08 | AlphA_VsT | lol well ive "almsot" had a girlfriend for the last 3 years 0.o |
| 06:14.23 | AlphA_VsT | Being a female would be awesome t hough :P |
| 06:14.24 | JademusSreg | Dunno what that means. |
| 06:14.54 | AlphA_VsT | Neither do I :P |
| 06:14.58 | Mexa | Nice... the TSL3 final is on may 14th |
| 06:15.08 | Mexa | and the bronze the day before |
| 06:15.13 | JademusSreg | How do you "almost" have a girlfriend? |
| 06:16.08 | AlphA_VsT | because we are not together really but we both want to be shes just fucking crazy 0.o |
| 06:17.38 | Mexa | LOL |
| 06:17.54 | JademusSreg | Still don't follow. |
| 06:18.11 | Mexa | zerg vs zerg, banelings + zerglings vs banelings + zerglings, awesomesauce |
| 06:18.21 | Mexa | pewpew kaboom asplode |
| 06:18.39 | Xapti | I'm glad I've never played a ZvZ like that (seriously) |
| 06:18.59 | Mexa | OMG, there's a ESL and ESL Nordic? |
| 06:19.09 | AlphA_VsT | lol well if it helps shes black :P |
| 06:19.10 | Mexa | D: |
| 06:19.54 | AlphA_VsT | fucking love black girls and im white dont hate |
| 06:20.34 | AlphA_VsT | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/panda%20copy.png random wallpaper |
| 06:20.40 | JademusSreg | Doesn't explain any of the previous, but I understand the latter. |
| 06:21.07 | JademusSreg | I enjoy people of every flavor. Yup. |
| 06:21.32 | AlphA_VsT | Yeah im not going to get into all the details lol i would be here forever :D |
| 06:22.25 | JademusSreg | So it's sex then. Or she's dating someone and you're in the friend zone. Or she's in an asylum. |
| 06:22.32 | AlphA_VsT | When i first meet her though she wanted to live in the hills with cats by her self 0.o |
| 06:24.22 | AlphA_VsT | goodnight though |
| 06:24.27 | Mexa | seeya |
| 06:24.49 | JademusSreg | My assertions were not contradicted, so I must assume they are all correct. |
| 06:25.07 | Xapti | hey small question... if you make a for loop with the end value being a variable, it will compare with the variable's value after each iteration as opposed to just the variables initial value, right? |
| 06:25.16 | Mexa | aw, gomtv ended already |
| 06:26.09 | JademusSreg | I don't quite get the question, Xap. |
| 06:27.06 | Xapti | well for loop goes like "for variable X from val1 to val2 increment val3" |
| 06:27.52 | Xapti | I'm saying if val2 is a variable, will it compare if the variable x is equal or past val2 aftyr each iteration, or will it just compare it to the vriable's original value, as if it was just a constant? |
| 06:28.37 | JademusSreg | I'm guessing the former, unless. |
| 06:28.39 | JademusSreg | ... |
| 06:28.55 | JademusSreg | What is it in galaxy? View Script under Data. |
| 06:30.32 | Xapti | i'm not sure |
| 06:30.56 | Xapti | doesn't seem to be for, I wonder if it's a while loop |
| 06:31.13 | JademusSreg | Well, yeah. |
| 06:31.20 | JademusSreg | There are no for loops in galaxy. |
| 06:31.31 | Xapti | yeah it's a while loop |
| 06:31.34 | JademusSreg | Though there are while and do while loops. |
| 06:31.47 | JademusSreg | Can you pastebin the section of code? |
| 06:33.27 | Xapti | ok it sets an automatic variable equal to the value of the variable before execution |
| 06:33.40 | Xapti | that means it treats it like a constant then right :\ |
| 06:33.52 | JademusSreg | I wanna see. =D |
| 06:33.55 | Xapti | I guess I shouldn't have been using a for loop anyway |
| 06:34.04 | Shawn|Rawr | penis. g'nite |
| 06:34.06 | Xapti | what i wanted was a do while or while |
| 06:34.15 | JademusSreg | Heh. |
| 06:34.51 | Xapti | ok fine I'll pastebin if ur curious |
| 06:35.02 | Xapti | what's weird is I swear this was working yesterday |
| 06:35.23 | Xapti | and I din't change aythign but it doesn't work anymore. I only tested it once though, butI don't see how that test could have fluked a pass |
| 06:35.24 | JademusSreg | Yes, I'd like to see their implementation of a for loop. |
| 06:36.32 | Xapti | http://pastebin.com/EpqvENaS |
| 06:36.36 | Shawn|Rawr | he's bicurious to see it |
| 06:36.47 | JademusSreg | You're not asleep, Shawn. |
| 06:37.06 | Shawn|Rawr | im trying to check the settings for my power button |
| 06:37.13 | Shawn|Rawr | its going so slow |
| 06:37.21 | Xapti | the for loop is the second while you see |
| 06:37.31 | Xapti | the first one is just pickuntis in unitgroup |
| 06:37.57 | Shawn|Rawr | i think the unit group doesnt exist |
| 06:38.06 | Shawn|Rawr | actually i didnt look |
| 06:38.17 | JademusSreg | Pick/For Each Unit In Unit Group stuff is abominable, but it will work well enough. Just wanted to say that. |
| 06:39.14 | JademusSreg | Goodness, they really overcomplicate a simple for loop. |
| 06:39.30 | Xapti | jademus it's better than usnig for loops as you can see... lol |
| 06:39.46 | JademusSreg | Heh. |
| 06:40.08 | JademusSreg | This is what I use instead of UnitGroupLoop natives, btw: http://pastebin.com/wFm9yD3U |
| 06:40.27 | Mexa | This :D http://kotaku.com/5800623/now-you-can-make-your-own-portal-2-puzzles-i-said-now |
| 06:40.44 | JademusSreg | YESSSS |
| 06:40.46 | Shawn|Rawr | this comp really doesnt want me to see my power options |
| 06:40.59 | Shawn|Rawr | oh well. goodnight |
| 06:41.05 | Xapti | does it have any caveats or anythings? |
| 06:41.12 | JademusSreg | Damnit, I'm not done with the Photon Cycles update, so I can't start doing stuff with it yet. |
| 06:41.14 | Mexa | nighty shawn |
| 06:47.39 | Xapti | OK now I have While i <= p ... so much more simple than that dumb BS before |
| 06:50.20 | JademusSreg | I know, right? =D |
| 07:03.36 | JademusSreg | Time for me to sleep. |
| 07:19.39 | Xapti | eh I can't get my thing working stijll... I am perplexed as to why |
| 07:19.40 | Xapti | http://pastebin.com/AxZJfHCG |
| 07:20.43 | Xapti | unit types[i] and unit types[p] should be equal on the second unit of the group if only 2 of the same caster are selected, but it's returning false |
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| 07:34.00 | Dresnia | :-) |
| 07:35.45 | Helral|Afk | Xapti: so you want stickbool to be true if they're the same or if they're not the same? |
| 07:36.22 | Xapti | not the same |
| 07:38.01 | Xapti | oh i figured out the problem I think |
| 07:38.11 | Xapti | (altough i thought the same before and was wrong) |
| 07:38.31 | Xapti | every time I think it's something to do with the order of +1, or such things, and i think tha'ts the case |
| 07:38.42 | Helral|Afk | where do you define the p ? |
| 07:38.51 | Xapti | it's 0 at the start of trigger |
| 07:38.54 | Xapti | same with i |
| 07:40.07 | Helral|Afk | you might want to change your condition then to i<p instead of i<=p |
| 07:40.49 | Helral|Afk | hmmm or not ... |
| 07:40.54 | Xapti | yeah i know |
| 07:40.54 | Helral|Afk | annoying bit of code you have there. ;p |
| 07:40.58 | Xapti | yeah lol |
| 07:41.06 | Xapti | Ikeep thinking things like that |
| 07:41.20 | Xapti | but then it doesn't seem to do any good |
| 07:41.25 | Helral|Afk | I myself would say i<p and always store picked unit type as p. |
| 07:42.04 | Helral|Afk | so what do you use the "stickbool 2" variable for? |
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| 07:42.22 | Helral|Afk | btw how do you test if it is correct? |
| 07:42.47 | Helral|Afk | might be just a wrong test ;p |
| 07:43.16 | Xapti | stickbool 2 isn't a problem, that just triggers right after the whole loop that I posted.. can ignore that line if you want |
| 07:43.46 | Xapti | I select 2 ghosts (or other caster) and it displays the message twice |
| 07:44.01 | Helral|Afk | I'd expect that. |
| 07:44.01 | Xapti | it should display the message once per caster type |
| 07:44.32 | Helral|Afk | Type of ghost 1 != no Unit Type, and Type of ghost 2 != no Unit Type |
| 07:45.15 | Helral|Afk | ah you could do the following: change the first condition to i<p |
| 07:45.31 | Helral|Afk | change the default value of stickbool to true |
| 07:45.36 | Xapti | yeah I noticed... on the second unit it will check with unit types[2] =! no unit type |
| 07:45.45 | Xapti | on the second iteration of the while loop |
| 07:45.53 | Helral|Afk | make the check "(Unit type of (Picked unit)) != unit types[i]" use == instead of != |
| 07:46.10 | Helral|Afk | and the "Variable - Set stickbool = true" to set it to false |
| 07:46.40 | Helral|Afk | cause what you want is it to always be true unless the types match |
| 07:47.07 | Helral|Afk | and you do not want it to always be false unless a type mismatches. |
| 07:47.30 | Helral|Afk | there is a tiny difference between the 2 statements. |
| 07:47.40 | Xapti | I don't think what you're saying is what I want |
| 07:48.27 | Helral|Afk | hmmm how to explain this correctly. |
| 07:48.52 | Helral|Afk | let's say you have Ghost1, Marine1, Ghost2 selected. |
| 07:49.48 | Helral|Afk | you check Ghost1, then store type, Marine1, then store type, Ghost2 != Ghost1 (stay false) Ghost2 != Marine1(set to true) |
| 07:50.03 | Dresnia|AFK | bb <3 |
| 07:50.09 | Xapti | don't confuse thing though, we only need to deal with 2 ghosts ATM |
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| 07:50.16 | Xapti | because with 2 ghosts it doesn't work |
| 07:50.38 | tordy | did the new patch break anything |
| 07:50.42 | Helral|Afk | Xapti: the explanation is only obvious with the marine in between ;p |
| 07:50.55 | Helral|Afk | I could explain what happends now with 2 ghosts. |
| 07:51.27 | Helral|Afk | now it goes like this: Ghost1!=No Unit Type --> true. Ghost2!=Ghost1 --> false, Ghost2!=No Unit Type --> true |
| 07:51.43 | Helral|Afk | so the value for Ghost1 check becomes true, and the value for Ghost2 check becomes true. |
| 07:51.51 | Helral|Afk | while you want it to be false the second one. |
| 07:51.58 | Helral|Afk | so if we turn it around. |
| 07:52.22 | Xapti | yeah I know that much |
| 07:52.34 | Xapti | but that's something to do with my looping |
| 07:52.38 | Helral|Afk | default = true. Ghost1==No Unit Type (stay true). |
| 07:52.48 | Xapti | it should stop one iteration earlier |
| 07:53.06 | Xapti | so that ghost2!=no unit type doesn't happen |
| 07:53.07 | Helral|Afk | default = true. Ghost2==Ghost1 (set false), Ghost2==No Unit Type (stay false) |
| 07:53.33 | Helral|Afk | and now you have Ghost1-->True and Ghost2-->false |
| 07:54.52 | Helral|Afk | and that is with this code adjustment: http://pastebin.com/ghtAVC28 |
| 07:55.11 | Xapti | how is ghost2==no unit type stay false? when the first time with ghost 1 it stayed true? |
| 07:55.23 | Helral|Afk | because at the first check it was set to false. |
| 07:55.33 | Helral|Afk | so it can't stay true because it is already false. |
| 07:56.07 | Helral|Afk | also the adjustment skips the No Unit Type check. |
| 07:56.14 | Helral|Afk | http://pastebin.com/diff.php?i=ghtAVC28 <-- see the changes here. |
| 07:56.40 | Xapti | no but the problem with what you're doing is if another unit pops up later that is new |
| 07:56.45 | Xapti | I think.... |
| 07:57.13 | Xapti | hold on i'll at least look |
| 07:57.58 | Helral|Afk | Xapti:default:true __ Marine1==Ghost1(stay true) __ Marine1==Ghost2(stay true) __ Marine1==No Unit Type(stay true) |
| 07:58.09 | Helral|Afk | although it will only check agains the Ghost unit type once ;p |
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| 08:00.39 | Xapti | I see what you're doing so far, I'm still trying to get my head around why I didn't do it that way and/or if that works in all situations, lol |
| 08:00.49 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 08:01.51 | Helral|Work | well the problem most likely was that you thought like: if Type X not in Group Y then set bool = true. |
| 08:02.07 | Helral|Work | which basicly is correct, but not if you check them 1 by 1 ;p |
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| 08:03.19 | Obatztrara | morning |
| 08:03.33 | Helral|Work | meowing |
| 08:03.54 | Xapti | I want the message to display only for casters though not non-casters |
| 08:04.15 | Xapti | because you set stickbool to true by default, when it hits a non-caster it will still display the message won't it? |
| 08:05.14 | Helral|Work | yeah but you can just as easily check that at the display point |
| 08:05.52 | Helral|Work | basicly move: ((Picked unit) Maximum Energy (Current)) > 0.0 to the second check (If stickbool == true) |
| 08:05.58 | Xapti | yeah so I'll have to move the condition of energy to the second check yeah |
| 08:06.05 | Helral|Work | :)\ |
| 08:06.07 | Helral|Work | :)* |
| 08:06.24 | Xapti | OK that might solve the problem then... completely different sort of logic to the problem it seems like |
| 08:06.49 | Xapti | it feels to me like I should be able to have it work my way too... it just runs one iteration too far |
| 08:07.53 | Xapti | like it does a check where unit type[i] != unit type [value like p+1], when it shouldn't |
| 08:09.11 | Xapti | oh and how did you format word-wrap... I didn't notice |
| 08:09.31 | Helral|Work | format word-wrap? |
| 08:10.01 | Xapti | in the pastebin you made |
| 08:10.09 | Xapti | it has no word-wrap and mine does |
| 08:10.32 | Helral|Work | the diff module of pastebin doesn't work with wordwrap ;p |
| 08:10.47 | Xapti | huh? |
| 08:10.58 | Helral|Work | if you check my paste without the diff module then you'd see wordwrap. |
| 08:11.24 | Helral|Work | at top it says: "Go back to the newest paste" |
| 08:11.37 | Helral|Work | basicly that will get you to the paste I made ;p |
| 08:12.36 | Xapti | ooooh |
| 08:12.41 | Xapti | so when it shows the difference |
| 08:12.47 | Xapti | man that's kinda weird/annoying |
| 08:12.57 | Helral|Work | easier to read without wordwrap. |
| 08:13.01 | Xapti | should be a checkmark setting |
| 08:13.03 | Xapti | yeah |
| 08:13.14 | Helral|Work | cause you can see the changes nicely |
| 08:13.30 | Xapti | can GUI do a "do while" statement? |
| 08:14.01 | Xapti | someone just a while back said editor has both "do while" and "while" loops |
| 08:14.11 | Xapti | but I don't see "do while" in the GUI |
| 08:14.25 | Helral|Work | what you mean with do while? |
| 08:14.36 | Helral|Work | Action X while Condition? |
| 08:14.53 | Helral|Work | so it keeps repeating Action X, as long as Condition is true? |
| 08:15.36 | Xapti | do first iteration without checking condition, then check condition for all subsequent iterations |
| 08:16.37 | Xapti | I think I need that for my way to work, otherwise i'd have problems with 0 not being smaller than 0 at the start (although there might be a workaround) |
| 08:17.00 | Helral|Work | right so basicly: set boolX = true;while ((Conditions) Or boolX){boolX = false; Actions....} |
| 08:18.15 | Xapti | yeah although I don't completely understand that syntax |
| 08:19.35 | Helral|Work | basicly what I said there is, while(Conditions or FirstRun) Do Actions |
| 08:20.37 | Xapti | oh I think I know how to do one... while 1, with an if statement on the end checking the condition, breaking the loop if it's false |
| 08:20.49 | Helral|Work | also possible |
| 08:21.04 | Helral|Work | there are multiple options |
| 08:21.57 | Xapti | oh yeah I understand what you wrote now |
| 08:22.10 | Xapti | my brain feels weak lol |
| 08:22.45 | Helral|Work | the one you mentioned is: "Repeat Forever"(trigger action) with as last action if (condition) Then break. |
| 08:22.56 | Xapti | anyway thanks for the help, I'll try your method and/or my method |
| 08:22.57 | Xapti | yeah |
| 08:23.16 | Helral|Work | well I'll be back ;p (virus scanner whining about needing to reboot pc. |
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| 08:54.20 | Xapti | thanks againt for the help helral... your proposition of changes was a slightly (and insignificantly) longer route than necessary though |
| 08:55.20 | Xapti | instead of switching Variable - Set stickbool = false to true and Variable - Set stickbool = true to false, the condition if stickbool=true could just be changed to false |
| 08:56.30 | Xapti | depends if you look at the glass as half full or half empty :P |
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| 09:00.47 | tordy | Helral|Afk: |
| 09:01.57 | Xapti | I think blizzard messed something up with baneling cost in 1.3.3... not even so much as messed up, but fixed their original mess-up in some screwy way |
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| 09:02.54 | Xapti | banelings used to be considered cost (VALUE) 25/25 even though they were 50/25 |
| 09:03.28 | Xapti | so in my custom map i chaged their cost to 50/25 as it should be. Since 1.3.3 banelings now somehow cost 75/25 |
| 09:03.41 | Xapti | even though the cost value i set is still 50/25 |
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| 09:05.55 | Helral|Afk | ;p |
| 09:06.23 | tordy | gosh helral!!!! |
| 09:06.24 | tordy | :3 |
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| 09:15.53 | Xapti | wtf this is so weird |
| 09:16.02 | Xapti | they just added 25 to the cost of a baneling |
| 09:16.11 | Xapti | so it used to be 0 now it's 25 |
| 09:16.28 | Xapti | and by cost i mean the ability, not hte unit |
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| 09:16.56 | Xapti | oh well, at least they fixed the problem, although it's weird whatever they did |
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| 09:21.53 | Blub\w | Xapti: huh? |
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| 09:28.50 | Xapti | before 1.3.3 the value of a baneling was 25/25 |
| 09:29.07 | Xapti | even though they cost the 25 minerals of the zergling and 25/25 to morph |
| 09:29.47 | Blub\w | and now? |
| 09:29.58 | Blub\w | there's nothing about that in the PTR notes :O |
| 09:29.58 | Xapti | so when you looked at the army tab if the opponent had only 20 banelings as their army, it would say their army value is 500/500 as opposed to the proper 1000/500 |
| 09:30.15 | Xapti | yeah I know, blizzard always making hidden changes |
| 09:30.28 | Xapti | so now Iassume they do the proper amount |
| 09:30.49 | Obatztrara | has anyone ever attached any models to the hydralisk arms? |
| 09:30.52 | Xapti | the only problem is it messed up my map just slightly, since banelings were supposed to be free or a certain price |
| 09:31.00 | Xapti | and this patch made them csot 25 more minerals |
| 09:31.06 | Blub\w | so |
| 09:31.13 | Blub\w | they actually became more expensive? |
| 09:31.19 | Xapti | I don't know how they don't care 25 more minerals in real games though, but if itwas the case I assume people would have noticed it |
| 09:31.32 | Xapti | *don't cost 25 more |
| 09:31.45 | Xapti | no they didn't really become more expensive |
| 09:31.49 | Xapti | (AFAIK) |
| 09:31.53 | Blub\w | k |
| 09:32.02 | Xapti | they just changed the cost it would be in my custom map |
| 09:32.14 | Xapti | from 50/25 to 75/25 |
| 09:32.53 | Xapti | and I'm not really sure the details other than that the ability's resource cost to make a baneing used to be zero, and changed to 25 |
| 09:33.03 | Xapti | (minerals) |
| 09:33.30 | Xapti | the other cost, probably has to do with the unit cost attribute on the unit |
| 09:34.01 | Xapti | aparently tooltips must be combing the cost of the unit and the ability to make the unit now... which seems new |
| 09:34.18 | Xapti | although it might not be new, I just might not have noticed it |
| 09:34.55 | Xapti | I don't know, it's weird |
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| 09:58.02 | Stewox | hah |
| 09:58.08 | Stewox | Helral|afk |
| 09:58.30 | Stewox | now i figured it shows the code if you hover with mose over the buttons UI |
| 09:59.47 | Stewox | some buttons are also showing wrongcode , for example the middle empty slot button , but not i refreshed , it's the Warp gate shortcut showing "minimap/model" which is wrong i suppose |
| 10:02.10 | Stewox | Blub/w ... helral did actually started with C# for the Layout UI generator , but some frame docking didn't work right so he quit. We can still try C++ ... probably won't get the same problem hmm ? |
| 10:02.58 | Helral|Work | Stewox: docking and alpha ;p |
| 10:03.27 | Stewox | well when i opened the program , it only showed "DESC" in the blank space |
| 10:03.50 | Helral|Work | Stewox: sometimes area's overlap with the UI mouseover stuff. that's why you get the wrong name ;p |
| 10:04.10 | Helral|Work | Stewox: did you add the layout files yet? ;p |
| 10:04.20 | Stewox | ofcourse i did |
| 10:04.23 | Helral|Work | also drag the window bigger ;p |
| 10:04.29 | Stewox | hmm |
| 10:05.19 | Blub\w | Stewox: the language doesn't change that, really |
| 10:05.29 | Blub\w | different UI API would be required I'd say :P |
| 10:05.35 | Helral|Work | btw I've done some fixing with the images, and added the color setting. |
| 10:05.41 | Blub\w | also, what kind of UI did it generate anyway? |
| 10:05.49 | Helral|Work | so now you can see something that starts to resemble the current UI. |
| 10:06.07 | Helral|Work | well the bit I wrote in C# just positions the elements. |
| 10:06.10 | Stewox | emm,,, it shows 3 things now |
| 10:06.29 | Helral|Work | and that didn't work 100% cause you can't see the stuff behind the toplevelframes. |
| 10:06.40 | Stewox | ObserverPanel ... WOrldPanel and DESC , in blank |
| 10:07.18 | Helral|Work | Stewox if you can get the frames to be transparent while it's content isn't you'll see a lot more ;p |
| 10:07.28 | Stewox | Blub i don't know yet , trying to get the program work, atleast proprly launchÄ |
| 10:07.29 | Helral|Work | its* |
| 10:07.57 | Stewox | ohh |
| 10:08.35 | Blub\w | Helral|Work: would probably best to just render images :P |
| 10:08.45 | Blub\w | be |
| 10:09.04 | Helral|Work | well I stopped working on the C# version. |
| 10:09.16 | Helral|Work | currently got a webversion which is progressing nicely. |
| 10:09.30 | Blub\w | :S |
| 10:09.34 | Helral|Work | I just need to figure out how I can correctly arrange the images. ;p |
| 10:09.37 | Blub\w | didn't look like that :P |
| 10:09.54 | Blub\w | by setting their pixel position D |
| 10:09.56 | Blub\w | xD |
| 10:10.51 | Helral|Work | Blub\w: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/14882-dialog-custom-dialog-background/ <-- those images |
| 10:11.07 | Helral|Work | amongst others ;p |
| 10:15.15 | Stewox | http://www.tangiblesoftwaresolutions.com/Product_Details/CSharp_to_CPlusPlus_Converter_Details.html?gclid=CO2VqqrV36gCFQGGDgodjRK85w |
| 10:16.56 | Blub\w | Helral|Work: whaat about that? |
| 10:17.00 | Blub\w | Stewox: you're not serious :O |
| 10:17.28 | Blub\w | "Purchase C# to C++ Converter for $119 US on our order page." |
| 10:17.30 | Blub\w | LOL |
| 10:17.57 | Blub\w | actually that's not even funny |
| 10:18.02 | Blub\w | that's just mindnumbing |
| 10:20.15 | Stewox | i hope not |
| 10:20.35 | Helral|Work | Blub\w: chopping up an image to generate the required image. :S I'll need to do that in my UI generator as well :S |
| 10:21.33 | Blub\w | Helral|Work: use java and JOGL, then you don't have such problems :P |
| 10:21.46 | Helral|Work | jogl? |
| 10:21.47 | Blub\w | except it only supports GL 2.0 wow |
| 10:21.56 | Helral|Work | .... |
| 10:22.09 | Blub\w | but that's not a problem |
| 10:22.11 | Blub\w | for such a simple app |
| 10:22.17 | Helral|Work | and why wouldn't I have that problem? |
| 10:23.08 | Blub\w | because you'd simply render the parts of the images the way you need them :P |
| 10:23.29 | Blub\w | same way sc2 does it |
| 10:23.31 | Helral|Work | so I'd still need to cut them into pieces..... |
| 10:23.45 | Helral|Work | so the problem stays. |
| 10:24.18 | Blub\w | you wouldn't cut it :P |
| 10:24.19 | Helral|Work | it's not like it has a specific renderer for that image-setup does it? |
| 10:25.20 | Stewox | what's 0X lambdas and 0X inferred typing |
| 10:25.21 | Blub\w | it's openGL... you tell it vertex and texture coordinates... and to repeat the texture over a longer range :P |
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| 10:25.32 | Stewox | is that important in your C# project ? |
| 10:25.44 | Helral|Work | what? |
| 10:25.46 | Blub\w | Stewox: where'd you see that? |
| 10:26.04 | Stewox | just a featrue of languages |
| 10:26.24 | Helral|Work | no clue what you talking bout Stewox :P all I did is in those C# project files. everything else is done by MS Visual C# Express. ;p |
| 10:26.42 | Blub\w | I think he's referring to c++0x :P |
| 10:26.46 | Blub\w | with 0x |
| 10:26.48 | Blub\w | :P |
| 10:27.08 | Blub\w | Helral|Work: so how do you "cut" the image in html/js? :P |
| 10:27.25 | Blub\w | or in c# ... since it sounded like you used normal GUI elements and set the background etc |
| 10:27.36 | Stewox | 0X standard options |
| 10:28.13 | Stewox | ah that's for the new C++ |
| 10:28.21 | Stewox | okay i cchosed Native C++ not CLI |
| 10:28.41 | Helral|Work | Blub\w: I'll prolly do that in perl not in html/js ;p |
| 10:29.07 | Blub\w | Helral|Work: o.O how'd you have access to perl from within JS :P |
| 10:29.21 | Blub\w | Helral|Work: or would you have it upload the image to some server running a perl CGI? |
| 10:29.39 | Helral|Work | <img src='cgi-bin/some.pl?image=location'> |
| 10:29.53 | Blub\w | Helral|Work: lol |
| 10:29.55 | Blub\w | really |
| 10:30.00 | Blub\w | use HTML5 + openGL :P |
| 10:30.03 | Blub\w | or java+JOGL |
| 10:30.07 | Blub\w | no cutting involved |
| 10:30.13 | Helral|Work | right.... use unsupported stuff. |
| 10:30.24 | Blub\w | in GL you render a quad with a texture and proper texture coordinates... |
| 10:30.30 | Blub\w | there you just tell it which part to use directly |
| 10:30.36 | Blub\w | also |
| 10:30.37 | Stewox | helral in your C#project |
| 10:30.47 | Blub\w | Helral|Work: how'd that <img> work without uploading the image first? |
| 10:30.54 | Stewox | theres some stuff named Project1.exe Project1.cpp ...etc |
| 10:30.56 | Blub\w | Helral|Work: if you want custom images |
| 10:30.58 | Stewox | is that old stuf ? |
| 10:31.10 | Helral|Work | Stewox: no idea ;p |
| 10:31.31 | Helral|Work | Blub\w: yup you need to upload custom images if you want to use them. |
| 10:31.32 | Blub\w | Helral|Work: blizzard didn't use JS/HTML/PERL for sc2 either :P |
| 10:31.41 | Blub\w | Helral|Work: that's so anti... |
| 10:31.47 | Blub\w | everything |
| 10:31.49 | Stewox | come on i need to know that |
| 10:31.59 | Stewox | take a look plz |
| 10:32.06 | Helral|Work | Blub\w: duh they made a game not a web-based UI generator. |
| 10:32.22 | Blub\w | Helral|Work: you could at least have made an actual java applet :P |
| 10:32.37 | Blub\w | sorry ^^ |
| 10:32.40 | Blub\w | I'll stop |
| 10:32.42 | Helral|Work | Stewox: where is that project stuff then? |
| 10:33.08 | Helral|Work | Blub\w: give usefull comments, instead of I'd do it like this, or I'd do it like that. |
| 10:33.48 | Stewox | inside the prject |
| 10:33.53 | Stewox | anywhere |
| 10:34.00 | Helral|Work | Stewox: I don't see them. maybe your own project? |
| 10:34.52 | Stewox | it's called |
| 10:34.54 | Stewox | From1 |
| 10:34.58 | Stewox | Form |
| 10:35.23 | Stewox | FORM1.cpp |
| 10:35.25 | Stewox | what is this |
| 10:35.33 | Stewox | old , not used ? |
| 10:35.35 | Helral|Work | ow prolly a reference project I made. |
| 10:35.42 | Stewox | oh |
| 10:35.42 | Helral|Work | just to copy/paste stuff from. |
| 10:35.45 | Stewox | so i don't need that |
| 10:35.49 | Stewox | okay |
| 10:35.49 | Helral|Work | don't think so |
| 10:38.06 | Stewox | and what is ToClas for ? |
| 10:40.00 | Helral|Work | Serializing/Deserializing ;p |
| 10:40.07 | Stewox | ah |
| 10:40.18 | Helral|Work | basicly XML to C# structure and back. |
| 10:40.21 | Stewox | so anybody knows C++ here , like real good ?* |
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| 10:41.22 | Blub\w | ... did you use that converter? |
| 10:41.28 | Blub\w | or why are you asking about c++ |
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| 10:43.34 | Stewox | u know ? |
| 10:47.32 | Stewox | http://www.mediafire.com/?7xwm42g31jmflsf |
| 10:48.08 | Stewox | you have to fix the codethough |
| 10:48.19 | Stewox | but it saved some time ... |
| 10:48.23 | Stewox | :) |
| 10:48.29 | Helral|Work | Blub\w: you'd reverse engineer blizzards UI code just so you could create an UI generator? |
| 10:49.01 | Helral|Work | ah well time for lunch ;p |
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| 11:03.42 | Blub\w | Helral|Work: ... do I need to understand that? |
| 11:06.19 | Blub\w | Stewox: that code looks pretty useless seeing how it seems to be a direct translation which tries to make use of C#s system stuff |
| 11:06.56 | Stewox | well that's what it did |
| 11:07.11 | Blub\w | I suppose staying with c# would be much simpler :P |
| 11:08.29 | Blub\w | I was expecing a 119$ tool to at least convert the basic System stuff to STL |
| 11:08.36 | Blub\w | so it can actually be *used* |
| 11:09.03 | Blub\w | but |
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| 11:09.20 | Blub\w | this looks like it's done with 3 lines of.... sed :P |
| 11:09.45 | Stewox | yeah there's a lot of warnings |
| 11:09.57 | Stewox | so i just .. let you guys to see that |
| 11:11.41 | Stewox | Pylon power radius has been decreased from 7.5 to 6.5. |
| 11:11.44 | Stewox | epic fail |
| 11:11.52 | Blub\w | how so? |
| 11:12.00 | Blub\w | it's good :P |
| 11:12.39 | Stewox | this was the most pain in the ass thing with them ... i always freaked out and just placed 10 pylons before i build anything :P |
| 11:12.56 | Stewox | usually cover the whole base |
| 11:13.00 | Blub\w | lol |
| 11:13.20 | Stewox | but there's always litlle hole meh |
| 11:13.21 | Blub\w | takes Stewox' "epic fail" from above and slaps him with it :) |
| 11:13.39 | Stewox | this was probably to downplay adjacents and proxies |
| 11:13.40 | Blub\w | you'll be killed before finishing the pylons :P |
| 11:13.45 | Stewox | but for base stuff it's horrible |
| 11:13.56 | Blub\w | doesn't matter much for base stuff |
| 11:13.58 | Stewox | 10 pylons was a joke |
| 11:14.00 | Blub\w | might put the pylon closer to the walloff |
| 11:14.05 | Blub\w | and |
| 11:14.10 | Blub\w | cannonrushes will be funny now |
| 11:14.12 | Stewox | after enough money i just make 4 of them to cover base ground |
| 11:15.20 | Stewox | # * o Thor now has 200 max energy, and starts with 50 energy. o 250mm Strike Cannons now cost 150 energy to use (cooldown removed). # ZERG |
| 11:15.28 | Stewox | okay this is probably the biggest fail ever |
| 11:15.34 | Stewox | no dobut |
| 11:16.09 | Blub\w | how so? |
| 11:16.14 | Stewox | never even seen usikng strike cannons , particularly because the ability is uncaceable |
| 11:16.18 | Blub\w | where's the fail in that? |
| 11:16.19 | Stewox | the ability is broken |
| 11:16.23 | Stewox | it sould be canceable |
| 11:16.30 | Stewox | and it plays til end |
| 11:16.31 | Blub\w | nope |
| 11:16.33 | Blub\w | it's strong |
| 11:16.39 | Stewox | come on |
| 11:16.42 | Blub\w | just because it's rarely used doesn't mean it has no use |
| 11:16.53 | Stewox | it drains all enegry even if it stops prematurely |
| 11:16.56 | Blub\w | people also used to not use FG... :P |
| 11:17.18 | Blub\w | Stewox: just look at the implications of this change |
| 11:17.24 | Stewox | im not a fan of it , it seems useless to me , |
| 11:17.43 | Stewox | againt buildings wich are stationary is the only use |
| 11:17.43 | Blub\w | terrans now have 2 choices against protoss: |
| 11:17.44 | Blub\w | use the ability |
| 11:17.47 | Blub\w | or get feedback-killed :P |
| 11:18.10 | Stewox | what's with the 150 cost |
| 11:18.12 | Stewox | that's weird |
| 11:18.31 | Blub\w | again: how so? |
| 11:18.32 | Stewox | i really hate this balance when they make it just so it's only usable ONCE per total |
| 11:18.40 | Stewox | that's just my taste |
| 11:18.41 | Blub\w | per total? |
| 11:18.43 | Blub\w | energy refills... |
| 11:18.52 | Blub\w | and it's not much diferent to the cooldown I guess |
| 11:19.01 | Stewox | 100% = total and you need >50% |
| 11:19.05 | Blub\w | the difference between energy and cooldown is: feedback |
| 11:19.19 | Stewox | in almost all units in SC2 100% = total and you need >50% |
| 11:19.35 | Blub\w | Stewox: feedback! |
| 11:19.40 | Stewox | that's really some broken balance |
| 11:19.48 | Blub\w | ... it's not |
| 11:19.53 | Stewox | it should be diversity and they just standardizing all of them , one by one |
| 11:20.05 | Blub\w | forcfields... |
| 11:20.18 | Blub\w | Stewox: why don't you complain about cooldowns then? |
| 11:20.20 | Stewox | that's why they are using them |
| 11:20.20 | Blub\w | the cooldown was long |
| 11:20.32 | Blub\w | why didn't you complain that you could only use it once every 103942958 minutes? |
| 11:20.41 | Stewox | nobody's using one-shot abilites , the unit will never survive (rarely) for another shot |
| 11:20.56 | Blub\w | you obviously don't play too much :O |
| 11:21.08 | Stewox | ofcourse not quickmatch |
| 11:21.10 | Stewox | :p |
| 11:21.15 | Blub\w | what other abilities are "unused one-shots" in your opinion? |
| 11:21.26 | Stewox | this one |
| 11:21.34 | Blub\w | Stewox: and answer: why don't you complaina bout cooldowns? |
| 11:21.57 | Stewox | the last time i used 250mm strike cannons was in campaign , i never upgrade that in MP |
| 11:22.10 | Blub\w | for the user of the ability, there's no difference between a 50s cooldown, and having to regenerate 50s worth of energy |
| 11:22.21 | Stewox | well |
| 11:22.24 | Stewox | this is the point |
| 11:22.24 | Blub\w | for the *balancing* |
| 11:22.34 | Blub\w | the difference is that the *feedback* ability can be used on the energy-unit |
| 11:22.36 | Stewox | this is called standardization |
| 11:22.39 | Stewox | it's bs |
| 11:22.43 | Stewox | because it's all same |
| 11:22.45 | Blub\w | standardization? |
| 11:22.46 | Blub\w | that's bs |
| 11:22.59 | Stewox | Energy should never work in the same speed how cooldowns do |
| 11:23.17 | Blub\w | Stewox: it's not about what you think about how energy should work |
| 11:23.19 | Stewox | and cooldowns shouldn't be just a cheap way of being "feedback-proof" |
| 11:23.24 | Blub\w | they wanted to make the thor be vulnerable to the feedback ability |
| 11:23.33 | Stewox | exactly |
| 11:23.36 | Stewox | and that's stupid |
| 11:23.42 | Blub\w | why is that stupid!? |
| 11:24.05 | Blub\w | nevermind I have to leave now |
| 11:24.14 | Stewox | because there are 2 totally different game mehanics and they're standardizing them , and only using them for "feedback proof or not" |
| 11:24.18 | Stewox | that's cheap |
| 11:24.34 | Stewox | imagine this |
| 11:24.41 | Blub\w | tha's not even an argument |
| 11:24.57 | Stewox | well , i'll make an example |
| 11:25.00 | Blub\w | you don't even know if the "mechanics" are *supposed* to be different |
| 11:25.21 | Blub\w | because they're not |
| 11:25.39 | Blub\w | regenerating energy is just the same as a cooldown, except with energy you can use stuff multiple times if desired by balancing |
| 11:25.48 | Blub\w | Stewox: remember your arguments, I have to go now |
| 11:25.54 | Blub\w | Stewox: gonna talk later |
| 11:25.55 | Blub\w | cu |
| 11:26.31 | Stewox | regenerating energy is just the same as a cooldown, except with energy you can use stuff multiple times if desired by balancing |
| 11:26.37 | Stewox | this is cheap though |
| 11:26.43 | Stewox | i don't like that style |
| 11:27.11 | Stewox | i want diversity and actualy "DIFFERENCE" not just some cheap feedback defence |
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| 11:34.25 | Stewox | hello |
| 11:34.28 | Stewox | anybody from US here |
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| 12:13.20 | Blub\w | Stewox: back - but only partially |
| 12:13.23 | Blub\w | online, but working |
| 12:16.10 | Stewox | u from US? |
| 12:18.12 | Stewox | Blub\w |
| 12:25.01 | Blub\w | nope |
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| 12:41.48 | Stewox | anyone from US here |
| 12:41.51 | Stewox | now available |
| 12:41.53 | Stewox | ! |
| 12:46.42 | Helral|Work | meow |
| 12:47.22 | Dresnia|AFK | roar |
| 12:47.26 | Helral|Work | meow! |
| 12:47.31 | Dresnia | roar! |
| 12:47.43 | Dresnia | hel |
| 12:47.48 | Helral|Work | hisses |
| 12:47.49 | Dresnia | how did the ui thingy go :p |
| 12:48.12 | Helral|Work | what you mean how did it go? |
| 12:48.21 | Dresnia | any good progress on it like |
| 12:48.26 | Dresnia | you think you can pull it off |
| 12:48.32 | Dresnia | or is it too messy |
| 12:49.13 | Helral|Work | currently working on getting the images correctly generated ;p |
| 12:49.22 | Dresnia | :) |
| 12:51.31 | Stewox | anyone from US ? |
| 12:51.51 | Dresnia | In an hour or 2 I guess Stewox |
| 12:51.55 | Dresnia | what you need anyway :o |
| 12:52.23 | Stewox | what ' |
| 12:52.34 | Dresnia | Why would you need a US player |
| 12:52.36 | Stewox | are u on enUS version of SC2 ? |
| 12:52.40 | Dresnia | no |
| 12:52.42 | Dresnia | EU |
| 12:52.51 | Dresnia | Just curious why you need a US one :D |
| 12:52.51 | Stewox | well okay i don't need u then :p |
| 12:52.54 | Dresnia | .. |
| 12:52.56 | Dresnia | nvm lol |
| 12:52.56 | Stewox | us files |
| 12:52.58 | Dresnia | wierdo ! :-( |
| 12:52.59 | Dresnia | aha |
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| 13:07.51 | Helral|Work | Stewox: are you US? ;p |
| 13:07.58 | Stewox | no |
| 13:08.11 | Stewox | then i wouldn't have the problem :) |
| 13:08.12 | Helral|Work | well you can poke Sixen, but he's prolly asleep |
| 13:08.20 | Stewox | alread did |
| 13:08.34 | Stewox | yeah all of them are asleep |
| 13:08.48 | Stewox | meh , i'll continue in an hour or 2 |
| 13:11.39 | Dresnia | patch seems stuck at 70% |
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| 13:14.07 | Dresnia | Why is this patch keeping stuck at 70% >_> |
| 13:15.06 | Dresnia | Stewox Helral|Afk any of you patched before today |
| 13:15.09 | Dresnia | and has this 'issue' |
| 13:15.23 | Helral|Work | Dresnia: do you have a mpq editor opened? |
| 13:15.31 | Dresnia | SC editor |
| 13:15.48 | Dresnia | AMAGAD IT WORKS |
| 13:15.50 | Dresnia | you my hero |
| 13:15.56 | Helral|Work | as long as SC2Editor or an MPQ editor is open, the game can't patch ;p |
| 13:16.04 | Dresnia | stupid game |
| 13:27.58 | Helral|Work | new patch out? |
| 13:28.09 | Obatztrara | whats the easiest way of destroying a persistent once the caster dies? (before the persistent runs out) |
| 13:30.01 | Dresnia | Helral|Afk yeah |
| 13:30.08 | Dresnia | they nerfed protos a bit |
| 13:30.11 | Dresnia | fixed some bugs |
| 13:30.16 | Dresnia | and fix a editor bug |
| 13:30.34 | Dresnia | However, as Renee spotted during the PTR, the CValidatorLocationCrossCliff bug was resolved and undocumented. |
| 13:30.48 | Dresnia | However, as Renee spotted during the PTR, the CValidatorLocationCrossCliff bug was resolved and undocumented. |
| 13:30.52 | Dresnia | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2766005#blog |
| 13:30.53 | Dresnia | >< |
| 13:31.44 | Helral|Work | guess that there are new Layout files as well now ;p |
| 13:39.20 | Helral|Work | the zerg hero icon is still broken ;p |
| 13:45.11 | Dresnia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q15fB7E28Zs&feature=related |
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| 14:01.30 | Helral|Afk | Dresnia: I colored the commandcard red ;p |
| 14:14.24 | Dresnia | :p |
| 14:14.57 | Helral|Work | have a look: (loading time present) http://109.71.49.81/SC2UIGenerator.html |
| 14:15.11 | Helral|Work | also you might want to hide the Inventory panel ;p they're in the way ;p |
| 14:16.30 | Obatztrara | oh god, I thought you were joking helral, but I crash when using my current layout files |
| 14:16.39 | Obatztrara | wtf blizzard |
| 14:17.15 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 14:17.24 | Helral|Work | you using the old method still I guess ;p |
| 14:17.35 | Helral|Work | told ya it would crash at every patch ;p |
| 14:17.46 | Obatztrara | im not |
| 14:17.52 | Helral|Work | hmmm |
| 14:17.56 | Obatztrara | im using 100% aiur method |
| 14:17.57 | Helral|Work | new method and it crashes? |
| 14:18.41 | Obatztrara | Well it just crashed two times in a row for all players in the lobby. so i assume yes it will crash in the editor too. gonna test now |
| 14:18.57 | Helral|Work | gonna test my map right now |
| 14:19.50 | Helral|Work | hmmmm crashed... |
| 14:19.57 | Obatztrara | -_- |
| 14:20.02 | Obatztrara | fuck you blizzard |
| 14:20.17 | Helral|Work | gonna see if I can locate it ;p |
| 14:20.27 | Obatztrara | they probably changed some of the UI files, didnt tell us about it and now we can try to find out which one it is |
| 14:21.03 | Helral|Work | yeah they changed some UI files |
| 14:24.24 | Helral|Work | Unit Info Panel got changed somewhere |
| 14:24.29 | Obatztrara | no crash when moving the minimap only |
| 14:24.37 | Obatztrara | alright |
| 14:24.46 | Helral|Work | my ChangeHeroPane crashes SC2 |
| 14:24.55 | Helral|Work | I only removed that one and it didn't crash :) |
| 14:28.01 | Helral|Work | Obatztrara: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/gui/21471-ui-changes-patch-1-3-3/ :) |
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| 14:28.21 | Obatztrara | alright, will post my findings there |
| 14:28.42 | Helral|Work | now I'm back to do some more worky worky ;p |
| 14:29.04 | Helral|Work | today I've only actually worked for like 1h30 orso :S out of the 7h30 I've been at work ;p |
| 14:30.36 | Obatztrara | hmm could you get the new UI files? |
| 14:31.22 | Helral|Work | 1 moment. |
| 14:33.36 | Helral|Work | see the post I linked earlier. |
| 14:35.14 | Obatztrara | perfect, thanks |
| 14:36.18 | Obatztrara | yay, my unit info panel doesnt crash it... :o |
| 14:36.48 | Helral|Work | prolly my HeroPane adjustments ;p |
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| 14:40.02 | Obatztrara | fuck, inventory crashe it =/ |
| 14:40.07 | Obatztrara | ugh, thats a lot |
| 14:42.25 | Helral|Work | hmmmm |
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| 14:42.40 | Helral|Work | couldn't find any change that would affect my adjustments so far :S |
| 14:43.32 | Obatztrara | =/ |
| 14:44.16 | Blub\w | does 1.3.3 contain any triggerlibs changes? |
| 14:44.26 | Obatztrara | ok I now know that the only thing that makes me crash are the layout changes to the inventory panel |
| 14:44.35 | Obatztrara | everything else works |
| 14:44.42 | Obatztrara | hmm no idea |
| 14:44.47 | Helral|Work | for me it was to the unit info panel. |
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| 14:46.11 | Bounty | >< |
| 14:46.16 | Obatztrara | im gonna start adding in the modifications to the hero panel |
| 14:46.26 | Obatztrara | i mean inventory panel |
| 14:46.31 | Obatztrara | lets see if some part of it works |
| 14:46.34 | Bounty | HAY GUYZ |
| 14:46.37 | Obatztrara | hi |
| 14:47.54 | Nash|327 | face |
| 14:48.17 | Nash|327 | http://i.imgur.com/JV5en.png |
| 14:48.32 | Nash|327 | Which ability tooltip do you prefer? |
| 14:48.50 | Bounty | pretty easy decision |
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| 14:48.51 | Bounty | the top |
| 14:49.02 | Helral|Work | Obatztrara: <Visible val='false'/> caused the crash for me... |
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| 14:49.10 | Obatztrara | woot |
| 14:49.17 | Obatztrara | if its just that that would rock!! |
| 14:49.22 | Helral|Work | unless one of those frames got removed ;p |
| 14:49.35 | Nash|327 | Some prefer the bottom one. |
| 14:49.38 | Nash|327 | I prefer top. |
| 14:49.39 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 14:49.48 | Obatztrara | yea first one |
| 14:49.52 | Bounty | I will now randomly link the latest video of my map to get a few more views |
| 14:49.53 | Helral|Work | I just scrapped some Frame info. |
| 14:49.54 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgcgBZJFPWc |
| 14:49.58 | Bounty | :) |
| 14:50.04 | Bounty | Nash |
| 14:50.09 | Bounty | the top just looks way more organized |
| 14:50.24 | Bounty | Its not even a question of preference |
| 14:50.28 | Bounty | Top = Correct |
| 14:50.30 | Bounty | Bottom = Wrong |
| 14:51.25 | Helral|Work | Obatztrara: yup it was the Visible val=false one. |
| 14:51.41 | Obatztrara | hmm i dont have any of that in my inventory panel D: |
| 14:52.17 | Nash|327 | I plat to change Effect to Affects |
| 14:52.26 | Nash|327 | plan |
| 14:52.46 | Helral|Work | the bottom one, because the others here said top ;p |
| 14:52.59 | Helral|Work | what are we talking about with top/bottom one? |
| 14:53.00 | Nash|327 | And list what it affects, for abilities that might affect Self, Target Area |
| 14:53.03 | Bounty | Helral |
| 14:53.12 | Nash|327 | http://i.imgur.com/JV5en.png |
| 14:53.17 | Nash|327 | that thingy :G |
| 14:53.24 | Helral|Work | uhm neither then? ;p |
| 14:53.33 | Helral|Work | ow wait I'll go for number 3 ;p |
| 14:53.37 | Bounty | I think i'll have to quote the famous scholar "Lex Luthor" on this one |
| 14:53.40 | Bounty | WRONG |
| 14:53.45 | Bounty | top > bottom |
| 14:54.39 | Helral|Work | you sure Bounty? I think that middle > top&bottom |
| 14:56.13 | Bounty | middle? there is no middle |
| 14:56.19 | Nash|327 | A blink attack ability would be Type: Attack Skill, Teleport - Affects: Self, Target Enemy - Usage: Offensive, Defensive. |
| 14:57.11 | Nash|327 | Helral is trolling you |
| 14:57.20 | Bounty | orly |
| 14:57.33 | Helral|Work | I'm kitten.... uhm kidding ;p |
| 14:57.36 | Helral|Work | meow |
| 14:57.42 | Nash|327 | KITTUN |
| 14:57.56 | Helral|Work | slaps Nash|327 around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:58.03 | Helral|Work | eats the trout. |
| 14:58.14 | Helral|Work | slaps Nash|327 around a bit with a large trout skeleton |
| 14:58.19 | Helral|Work | that's better. |
| 14:58.33 | Nash|327 | fish have skeletons? |
| 14:58.51 | Helral|Work | they have fishbones ;p |
| 14:59.02 | Helral|Work | and bones are part of skeletons. |
| 14:59.08 | Helral|Work | so yeah fish have skeletons. |
| 14:59.23 | Helral|Work | it's not like they're worms orso. |
| 14:59.27 | Nash|327 | I don't think fishbones count as skeletons. |
| 14:59.36 | Nash|327 | Will have to look this up. |
| 14:59.40 | Helral|Work | go ask the trout skeleton ;p |
| 14:59.44 | Helral|Work | meows |
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| 15:00.33 | Nash|327 | Hmm, the biological definition of skeleton is very broad |
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| 15:01.02 | Stewox | hello |
| 15:01.08 | Stewox | anyone on enUS |
| 15:01.20 | Helral|Work | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeleton#Fish |
| 15:01.23 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 15:01.44 | Helral|Afk | cya when I get home ;p |
| 15:02.27 | Obatztrara | later |
| 15:03.09 | Stewox | anoyne ENUS |
| 15:03.10 | Stewox | ? |
| 15:03.11 | Stewox | hehe |
| 15:03.13 | Stewox | here |
| 15:03.16 | Stewox | now ? |
| 15:03.45 | Dresnia | slaps Stewox around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:20.23 | Stewox | still sleeping |
| 15:20.43 | Stewox | 5 - 8 = 9 |
| 15:21.07 | Stewox | working eh |
| 15:21.18 | Stewox | am i the only one here still in high school :P |
| 15:21.35 | Stewox | not still , but ... |
| 15:21.37 | Stewox | anyways |
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| 15:26.24 | Stewox | MaxMode |
| 15:26.30 | Stewox | you're from US? |
| 15:26.46 | MaxMode | yes |
| 15:26.51 | Stewox | cool |
| 15:27.04 | Stewox | can u upload something on mediafire for me plz ? |
| 15:27.16 | MaxMode | what |
| 15:27.20 | MaxMode | i have to go to clas soon |
| 15:27.28 | MaxMode | *class |
| 15:27.44 | Stewox | did u installed latest SC2 patch ? |
| 15:27.49 | MaxMode | not yet |
| 15:27.57 | Stewox | how much time you have left ? |
| 15:28.11 | MaxMode | i have not played any sc in a long lime |
| 15:28.13 | MaxMode | *time |
| 15:28.35 | MaxMode | i mostly watch |
| 15:28.41 | Stewox | well i u have 30 mins you can do it now, but then not ... |
| 15:28.48 | Stewox | i need some US files |
| 15:29.34 | MaxMode | http://www.starcraft2patch.net/ |
| 15:29.40 | MaxMode | will that have what you need |
| 15:29.42 | Stewox | the file is 150 MB to upload , how's your spped doing ? |
| 15:30.41 | Stewox | those are US patches ? |
| 15:30.51 | MaxMode | they should be |
| 15:31.14 | MaxMode | i have not used this web site since the beta |
| 15:31.21 | MaxMode | but they worked for me then |
| 15:31.24 | MaxMode | so it should be us |
| 15:31.40 | Stewox | seems like it's not being updated for retail |
| 15:31.45 | Stewox | mirrors |
| 15:33.32 | Stewox | A1win |
| 15:33.36 | Stewox | you from US ? |
| 15:33.40 | A1win | EU |
| 15:33.44 | Stewox | ah forgot |
| 15:34.17 | Stewox | Chrono^ u from US ? |
| 15:34.53 | Chrono^ | ney |
| 15:34.57 | Stewox | nope ? |
| 15:35.03 | Dresnia | slaps burne- around a bit with a large trout |
| 15:35.17 | Stewox | Mephs you from US ? |
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| 15:35.58 | Dresnia | Stewox why do you so drasticly need US files anyway ? :s |
| 15:36.21 | Stewox | Why are you so picking |
| 15:36.36 | Stewox | you'll see when im done :p |
| 15:36.47 | Dresnia | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=118158 |
| 15:36.53 | Dresnia | I'm not picking, I'm curious :) |
| 15:36.55 | Stewox | how can i make US version from mod if i don't have US files |
| 15:37.30 | Dresnia | This is a batch file (.bat) that I wrote for easier switching between regions when using one copy of the game, in order to save the space of having multiple copies of the game. To use it: |
| 15:37.53 | Dresnia | but I'm afk now need foods |
| 15:37.57 | Dresnia | ttyl gl hunting |
| 15:39.01 | Stewox | ok |
| 15:39.27 | Stewox | but ... that's not what i need , sorry, for my special case , cause im doing something else |
| 15:39.52 | Stewox | however it's a good thing i'll save it for later |
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| 15:42.59 | Stewox | burne- |
| 15:43.02 | Stewox | u from US ? |
| 15:43.13 | burne- | no |
| 15:43.41 | Stewox | who could be online from US now . at this time |
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| 15:52.55 | Helral|Afk | Stewox: hmmm us version from mod? |
| 15:53.27 | Stewox | just need a US guy who has enUS version of the game |
| 15:53.36 | Helral|Afk | open mod with mpq editor, extract enGB directory, rename to enUS, import as enUS directory |
| 15:54.00 | Helral|Afk | and there ya go ;p enUS and enGB localized mod. |
| 15:54.43 | Stewox | so this locale restriction isn't done on file level |
| 15:54.56 | Helral|Afk | what locale restriction? |
| 15:54.57 | Stewox | i saw that every mpq has a lot of locales yeah |
| 15:55.31 | Stewox | it's not a mod |
| 15:55.35 | Stewox | it's an official file |
| 15:56.07 | Stewox | that's why i need a guy who has the game |
| 15:56.14 | Helral|Afk | meow which file? |
| 15:56.27 | Stewox | patch.sc2archive |
| 15:57.26 | Stewox | hmm |
| 15:57.31 | Stewox | it's not the locale file |
| 15:57.37 | Stewox | but i just want to be sure |
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| 15:57.51 | Helral|Afk | patch.sc2archive is identical at every installation. |
| 15:58.13 | Stewox | are u sure like 100% |
| 15:58.16 | Stewox | ? |
| 15:58.21 | Helral|Afk | yup |
| 15:58.32 | Helral|Afk | cause I just went into the enUS directory at my patch.SC2Archive |
| 15:58.58 | Stewox | well i don't have any enGB inside |
| 15:59.09 | Helral|Afk | patch-enGB.SC2Archive is the localized one. |
| 15:59.18 | Helral|Afk | Stewox: cause enGB is the base. |
| 15:59.24 | Stewox | okay so it's separate |
| 16:00.02 | Stewox | okay if you say so , i hope it's not some hidden bits inside that will make it not work |
| 16:00.14 | Helral|Afk | but what are you trying to do? |
| 16:00.33 | Stewox | well you just solved it |
| 16:00.40 | Stewox | just changing some files insde |
| 16:00.49 | Stewox | if you mean about the tweak |
| 16:00.55 | Helral|Afk | yeah |
| 16:01.05 | Stewox | lowetexture mod |
| 16:01.18 | Stewox | so i guess it will work for every locale |
| 16:01.19 | Stewox | great |
| 16:01.26 | Helral|Afk | so basicly you're corrupting your sc installation for low-texture mod? |
| 16:03.16 | Stewox | yeah |
| 16:03.28 | Stewox | didn't found a way to make it officially via editor |
| 16:03.29 | Stewox | :P |
| 16:03.39 | Stewox | it's for Laptops an IGPS |
| 16:03.45 | Stewox | testing will be done |
| 16:04.00 | Stewox | if it even does prove to make playable framerate on those machines it iwll be great |
| 16:04.12 | Stewox | other thatn that it was made for fun |
| 16:04.23 | Stewox | cause i laughed so hard when i saw the game like that |
| 16:04.35 | Stewox | it's in Assets on sc2mapster.com |
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| 16:41.13 | Mozared | They see me pluggin', they hatin' |
| 16:41.14 | Mozared | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/21470-sc2streamster-epic-streaming-with-capital-e/#p1 |
| 16:41.27 | burne- | FINALLY |
| 16:41.29 | Mozared | Check it out folks :D |
| 16:41.49 | burne- | it kinda eats my motivation on mapping when Iv done something before it takes 5h to make it again |
| 16:41.52 | burne- | cause I thought I should optimize it |
| 16:42.10 | burne- | ffs |
| 16:42.11 | Mozared | That always happens to me on the forums |
| 16:42.15 | burne- | apparenty it didnt work if Ididnt make it exactly the same way as before |
| 16:42.21 | Mozared | I type a huge post, get the [b] code bug and lose all my text |
| 16:42.48 | burne- | heh happened to me couple times too |
| 16:42.55 | burne- | my mouse has return button |
| 16:43.00 | burne- | so I sometimes press it by accident |
| 16:43.16 | Mozared | Same |
| 16:43.21 | Mozared | Chrome tends to save my posts, luckily |
| 16:43.28 | Mozared | but sometimes the whole thing crashes and I lose it =( |
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| 17:10.39 | burne- | why cant I order unit to cast a spell :( |
| 17:10.44 | burne- | iv managed this before cmon... |
| 17:11.15 | JademusSreg | Is the Order type correct? |
| 17:11.23 | burne- | yes |
| 17:11.42 | burne- | I also have effect on the ability w´hich is target unit |
| 17:11.49 | burne- | but still cannot order it to cast it |
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| 17:14.49 | burne- | rofl |
| 17:14.55 | burne- | I had effect - instant |
| 17:14.58 | burne- | gj me :D |
| 17:17.43 | burne- | I really make so manyu mistakes this week |
| 17:17.45 | burne- | -_- |
| 17:18.03 | Helral|Afk | meow |
| 17:19.08 | Helral|Afk | meow |
| 17:19.34 | burne- | wuff wuff |
| 17:22.15 | Dresnia|AFK | slaps Helral|Afk around a bit with a large trout |
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| 17:29.10 | Dresnia|AFK | burne- you love me ? |
| 17:29.24 | Dresnia|AFK | and hello JademusSreg ! I didn't see your awakening |
| 17:29.42 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 17:29.54 | Dresnia | You usually say : I Awaken. |
| 17:30.05 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 17:31.41 | Dresnia | I missed it. |
| 17:31.44 | Dresnia | So I say Hello now. |
| 17:31.55 | Dresnia | Oh and I did a 7/10 win on Photon today :-) |
| 17:32.06 | Dresnia | = proud ! |
| 17:33.31 | Nash|327 | hax |
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| 17:37.17 | Helral|Afk | slaps Dresnia around a bit with a large trout |
| 17:37.18 | JademusSreg | Niice. |
| 17:37.19 | Helral|Afk | meow |
| 17:45.26 | Nash|327 | wears kittuns as a hat |
| 17:46.06 | Helral|Afk | wears human flesh as a suit |
| 17:46.08 | Helral|Afk | meows |
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| 17:46.26 | Bounty | HAY GUYZ |
| 17:46.36 | Nash|327 | tasty bounty |
| 17:46.49 | Bounty | lolwut |
| 17:46.59 | Nash|327 | BOUNTY IS TASTY |
| 17:47.05 | Bounty | IKNORITE |
| 17:47.07 | Bounty | So |
| 17:47.09 | Bounty | im bored |
| 17:47.12 | Bounty | and i wanna stream something |
| 17:47.14 | Bounty | any ideas? |
| 17:47.18 | Nash|327 | YOU TAUNT ME WITH ITS COCONUTTY GOODNESS |
| 17:51.40 | burne- | muahahhaha |
| 17:51.45 | burne- | finally I got some new stuff done |
| 17:51.57 | burne- | maybe tomorrow I can finally teas you guys with it :) |
| 17:51.59 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
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| 17:54.34 | Bounty | i r bored |
| 17:55.00 | burne- | go watch porn |
| 17:55.17 | Bounty | the wife is sitting right next to me so, no |
| 17:55.34 | burne- | take her from behind! |
| 17:55.35 | Kueken | tell her to be your porn |
| 17:55.43 | Kueken | (in a romantic way maybe) |
| 17:55.58 | Bounty | 4 month old baby in between us |
| 17:56.07 | Bounty | =P |
| 17:56.18 | Kueken | doesn't it need sleep right now? |
| 17:56.22 | Kueken | I am pretty sure |
| 17:56.29 | burne- | he/she can watch if he/she wants to |
| 17:56.45 | Kueken | he/she will not understand whats going on anyway :D |
| 17:56.54 | AlphA_VsT | i know right |
| 17:57.12 | AlphA_VsT | get the sex while you can before its to late |
| 17:57.22 | Bounty | to early |
| 17:57.30 | Bounty | we prefer late |
| 17:58.06 | Kueken | preferences do not help vs boredom ;) |
| 17:58.37 | AlphA_VsT | lol so you would rather wait till your baby is older and never have the time to have sex |
| 17:58.42 | AlphA_VsT | yeah thats real smart |
| 17:58.53 | Bounty | lol fail? |
| 17:58.59 | Bounty | [13:47] <Bounty> we prefer late |
| 17:59.06 | Bounty | its 1:50 in the afternoon |
| 17:59.20 | AlphA_VsT | thats not what i meant :P |
| 17:59.25 | Bounty | and do you have a kid Alpha? |
| 17:59.30 | AlphA_VsT | no |
| 17:59.33 | Bounty | ok then |
| 17:59.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 17:59.39 | Bounty | We manage |
| 18:00.27 | AlphA_VsT | you have a set time for sex sounds like your in a bad place |
| 18:00.40 | Bounty | ???????? |
| 18:00.43 | Bounty | who said we set times? lol |
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| 18:00.58 | AlphA_VsT | you just did |
| 18:01.04 | Bounty | yeah i said we prefer late |
| 18:01.09 | Bounty | PREFER LATE |
| 18:01.11 | Bounty | PREFER LATE |
| 18:01.15 | Bounty | read it that time? lol |
| 18:01.59 | Bounty | besides, why are we talking about this... all i said was im bored >< |
| 18:02.31 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 18:02.34 | AlphA_VsT | they started it |
| 18:02.43 | Helral|Afk | AlphA_VsT: why do you think he has a 4 month old baby next to him? |
| 18:03.18 | Helral|Afk | hides because of the awful joke |
| 18:03.24 | AlphA_VsT | they adopted DUH... no shit... |
| 18:03.28 | Bounty | that was a joke? |
| 18:03.35 | Bounty | >< |
| 18:03.41 | Bounty | adopted? what are you stupid |
| 18:03.44 | Helral|Afk | well she was late..... you were late before she was .... |
| 18:03.45 | Bounty | obviously we ordered from the stork |
| 18:03.47 | Bounty | jesus |
| 18:04.03 | Bounty | everybody knows if you want a baby you call the stork |
| 18:04.08 | AlphA_VsT | fuck me I shoulda known |
| 18:04.37 | AlphA_VsT | well duh but some people want babies and then are like we cahnged are mind so you get them from the baby store |
| 18:04.41 | AlphA_VsT | used |
| 18:04.45 | AlphA_VsT | they are cheaper |
| 18:04.50 | AlphA_VsT | that way |
| 18:04.58 | Helral|Afk | Bounty: You are number one thousand in line, please hold. |
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| 18:05.08 | Bounty_ | trololol |
| 18:05.24 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 18:05.35 | Helral|Afk | Bounty: This is the Stork-Service, You are number one thousand in line, please hold. |
| 18:06.26 | Helral|Afk | Stork-Delivery-service-telephone-order-waiting-line |
| 18:06.30 | Bounty_ | neways |
| 18:06.32 | Bounty_ | lol |
| 18:06.42 | Bounty_ | i wanted to stream something but not sure what |
| 18:06.59 | Helral|Afk | hmmmm you chatting with us on IRC? ;p |
| 18:07.08 | Bounty_ | sure |
| 18:07.09 | Bounty_ | i can do that |
| 18:07.11 | Helral|Afk | lol |
| 18:07.20 | Helral|Afk | wonder how many viewers you'd get. |
| 18:07.37 | Bounty_ | lets find out |
| 18:07.40 | Bounty_ | stream is up |
| 18:07.46 | Bounty_ | www.livestream.com/bounty_98 |
| 18:08.03 | ProzaicMuze | Storks are for people with ED |
| 18:08.33 | Helral|Afk | :) |
| 18:09.59 | Bounty_ | COME WATCH ME CHAT WITH YOU GUYS |
| 18:10.00 | Bounty_ | www.livestream.com/bounty_98 |
| 18:10.01 | Helral|Afk | omg caps |
| 18:10.08 | burne- | mmm |
| 18:10.20 | burne- | I need some sweet photoshop skills for my next video |
| 18:10.29 | burne- | anyone wana do text Goku Firebat for me? |
| 18:10.40 | burne- | like fire effect |
| 18:10.52 | burne- | too lazy to do it my self and it probly wont be so good |
| 18:11.04 | burne- | or then again I could just use some custom text styles |
| 18:11.14 | Helral|Afk | meow |
| 18:11.50 | burne- | shut up Helral|Afk ! |
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| 18:13.25 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
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| 18:23.41 | Bounty_ | www.livestream.com/bounty_98 pick a game and i shall playith thee |
| 18:27.53 | AlphA_VsT | no |
| 18:29.01 | Dresnia | looks at Bounty_ sadly confused :( |
| 18:29.28 | Bounty_ | streaming super meat boy |
| 18:29.31 | Helral|Afk | meow |
| 18:29.32 | Bounty_ | and my huge failure |
| 18:29.33 | AlphA_VsT | super meat boy is better in flash |
| 18:29.36 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 18:30.56 | Helral|Afk | those failures of his are hilarious :) |
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| 18:37.15 | Mephs | streaming better shit than bounty: http://www.livestream.com/mephssc |
| 18:37.49 | Xaragoth | Lemme say it this way |
| 18:38.08 | Xaragoth | I ain't watching either of you weirdos |
| 18:40.27 | AlphA_VsT | yay stupid internets |
| 18:58.55 | Helral|Afk | yay bottom/right anchors fixed ;p |
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| 19:09.08 | Bounty_ | streaming better shit than Mephs |
| 19:09.09 | Bounty_ | www.livestream.com/bounty_98 |
| 19:09.50 | Helral | even better then those streams ;p [WIP] http://109.71.49.81/SC2UIGenerator.html |
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| 19:10.51 | Xaragoth | Now, are you all done? |
| 19:10.56 | Helral | nope ;p |
| 19:11.05 | Helral | it's [Work In Progress] |
| 19:11.25 | Xaragoth | Hrm. Kay, than I'll have to wait to say "Mine is bigger, stop with the streams" :p |
| 19:11.29 | Helral | need to correct some of the images, etc. |
| 19:11.34 | Helral | my link wasn't a stream ;p |
| 19:11.35 | Helral | lol |
| 19:12.00 | Dresnia | Mephs your map is so awesome I just did a Fury and my friend's internet connection died rofl |
| 19:12.09 | Dresnia | I punched him out of the interwebz |
| 19:12.27 | Xaragoth | I call that a bug. |
| 19:12.38 | Dresnia | Xaragoth your the bug. |
| 19:12.47 | Xaragoth | I doubt it |
| 19:12.53 | Dresnia | <3 |
| 19:13.00 | Xaragoth | wait |
| 19:13.04 | Xaragoth | did you friend get a bluescreen |
| 19:13.06 | Xaragoth | with a tophat? |
| 19:13.09 | Xaragoth | than it was me. |
| 19:13.10 | Dresnia | no idea |
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| 19:18.05 | AlphA_VsT | omg helral your <3 |
| 19:18.48 | Helral | AlphA_VsT: meow? |
| 19:19.06 | AlphA_VsT | though that shit is a complete mess :P |
| 19:19.47 | Helral | lol you can click to hide stuff ;p |
| 19:19.52 | Helral | at the tree at the side |
| 19:19.57 | Helral | also ctrl+scroll to zoom out |
| 19:20.28 | AlphA_VsT | wont work on mac :P |
| 19:20.47 | AlphA_VsT | best to change it to something else |
| 19:20.59 | AlphA_VsT | ctrl+scroll on mac is zoom in and out for the os |
| 19:22.03 | AlphA_VsT | though is it suppose to look like this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8753926/Screen%20shot%202011-05-11%20at%2012.21.26%20PM.png? |
| 19:22.39 | AlphA_VsT | or is it cause your not done? |
| 19:24.03 | AlphA_VsT | you really should be doing it in php :P |
| 19:24.22 | AlphA_VsT | or anything else |
| 19:24.41 | AlphA_VsT | fucking javascript |
| 19:24.50 | AlphA_VsT | with ajax |
| 19:26.35 | AlphA_VsT | but yeah |
| 19:26.37 | Helral | uhm AlphA_VsT: php is server-side |
| 19:26.44 | Helral | so quite useless for positioning. |
| 19:27.11 | Helral | didn't know that mac browsers didn't support zooming. |
| 19:27.26 | AlphA_VsT | they do |
| 19:27.55 | Helral | well CURRENTLY you still need to zoom out to 50%. otherwise it ain't workable. |
| 19:28.07 | Helral | will change once I get to the point of scaling. |
| 19:28.18 | Helral | first I want to get all the major things to work. |
| 19:28.30 | AlphA_VsT | i see what you did |
| 19:28.55 | AlphA_VsT | i know php is server side 0.o |
| 19:29.04 | AlphA_VsT | thats why i said javascript :P |
| 19:29.24 | Helral | I'm using javascript there..... |
| 19:30.57 | AlphA_VsT | i didnt actually look at the source :P |
| 19:31.05 | Helral | lol |
| 19:31.17 | Helral | the positioning of the frames is done with javascript. |
| 19:31.40 | Helral | so cmd+scroll = zoom out for the mac OS... good to know |
| 19:31.50 | AlphA_VsT | yes |
| 19:31.58 | AlphA_VsT | at least in firefox |
| 19:31.59 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 19:32.05 | Dresnia | FF FOR LIFE YOH |
| 19:32.13 | Helral | hmmm? then it is zoom out for the browser not the OS. |
| 19:32.29 | AlphA_VsT | no |
| 19:32.30 | Helral | or how does it zoom out? |
| 19:32.31 | AlphA_VsT | i was kidding |
| 19:32.43 | AlphA_VsT | its cmd + -/+ |
| 19:33.27 | AlphA_VsT | ctrl + scroll is os |
| 19:33.41 | Helral | maybe I'll first generate a list of the default hidden elements. |
| 19:33.44 | Helral | hmmmm |
| 19:34.00 | AlphA_VsT | I can zoom in on the screen weee |
| 19:34.24 | AlphA_VsT | yeah you should make the window look like the game by defualt |
| 19:37.06 | Helral | well I need an image with the correct dimensions of the minimap panel background, InfoPanel background, CommandPanel background. |
| 19:37.18 | Helral | those 3 are m3 files in the mpq. |
| 19:37.45 | Nash|327 | use pictures of kittuns |
| 19:38.34 | Nash|327 | http://placekitten.com/ |
| 19:41.09 | Dresnia | haha |
| 19:41.23 | Dresnia | Nash|327 == Mark James |
| 19:48.44 | AlphA_VsT | Helral, just load up a new map and take out info panel and take a screen shot |
| 19:48.50 | AlphA_VsT | and then cut it out from there |
| 19:49.21 | AlphA_VsT | the info panel is just stretched |
| 19:49.25 | AlphA_VsT | to fit the screen |
| 19:51.50 | Nash|327 | KITTUNS |
| 19:53.23 | Helral | AlphA_VsT: working on something else atm ;p |
| 19:54.11 | Nash|327 | HELLRAWL |
| 19:54.27 | AlphA_VsT | just sayiong |
| 19:55.09 | Nash|327 | tiny kittuns in tiny boxes |
| 20:01.09 | AlphA_VsT | fuck the kittens |
| 20:01.21 | AlphA_VsT | to much kitten talk aroudn here |
| 20:01.24 | AlphA_VsT | its gross |
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| 20:08.42 | Bounty | HAY GUYZ |
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| 20:18.49 | Dresnia | looks at Bounty sadly confused :( |
| 20:19.02 | Bounty | ? |
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| 20:21.42 | UloseTheGame | QUICK: What's a GOOD but QUICK idea for a contest! |
| 20:22.04 | JademusSreg | Make the worst map ever. |
| 20:22.23 | JademusSreg | It would be pretty difficult to beat Map Tong Hop though. |
| 20:22.43 | JademusSreg | Basically, Sweet Bro & Hella Jeff design philosophy applied to SC2 maps. |
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| 20:31.10 | UloseTheGame | Needs to be about a month to finish and be very simple |
| 20:31.25 | UloseTheGame | perhaps a library of some kind |
| 20:31.27 | UloseTheGame | ? |
| 20:31.35 | UloseTheGame | cause im trying to suggest a contest for hive |
| 20:31.55 | JademusSreg | How about the Not Shitty Icons Contest? =D |
| 20:34.56 | Dresnia | JademusSreg earned +1 internet ! |
| 20:46.58 | UloseTheGame | Hmmm....sc2 icons...that would be a good idea |
| 20:47.23 | UloseTheGame | I warn you though, good icons are very hard to make for those who actually care enough to make the |
| 20:47.25 | Stewox | Bounty did you preserved the speedcraft code ? |
| 20:47.26 | UloseTheGame | in other words |
| 20:48.10 | UloseTheGame | if you progress a certain point, you arent going to care enough to make icons |
| 20:48.18 | UloseTheGame | Mr. Goblin is the exception to the rule |
| 20:48.35 | UloseTheGame | but he only does requests nowadays |
| 20:50.20 | AlphA_VsT | ive worked on this stupid thing for almsot 7 hours so far |
| 20:50.21 | AlphA_VsT | QQ |
| 20:50.40 | UloseTheGame | I'm sick and tired of not finishing any maps and projects, im gonna move away from mapping for the time being |
| 20:50.48 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 20:50.53 | UloseTheGame | Instead, I will working on doing original things with the editor |
| 20:51.02 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 20:51.09 | AlphA_VsT | thats harder than it sounds |
| 20:51.10 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
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| 21:03.35 | AlphA_VsT | RAWR!!!!!! |
| 21:07.27 | Shawn|Rawr | AAAHHHHH!!! |
| 21:07.30 | Shawn|Rawr | REAL MONSTERS! |
| 21:16.29 | Dresnia | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/RuN |
| 21:16.31 | Dresnia | 3D time ! |
| 21:18.09 | Shawn|Rawr | How is this featured on tl.net? |
| 21:18.13 | Shawn|Rawr | THIS ISNT GAMING! |
| 21:19.01 | Dresnia | its a [MISC] stream |
| 21:21.21 | Shawn|Rawr | But.. FEATURED! |
| 21:21.26 | Shawn|Rawr | O_O |
| 21:39.14 | Bibendus|AFK | cmon its great |
| 21:39.14 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:39.25 | Bibendus | is he remaking a new infestor? |
| 21:39.29 | Bibendus | or just editing the existing one |
| 21:39.41 | Dresnia | he made it from scratch |
| 21:39.45 | Dresnia | check his portofo |
| 21:39.49 | Dresnia | he does these for 'fun' |
| 21:39.57 | Bibendus | fuck i want one of these guys |
| 21:40.00 | Dresnia | but it is his job aswell |
| 21:40.05 | Bibendus | making me new zerg units for hive keeper :D |
| 21:40.08 | Dresnia | :p |
| 21:40.17 | Dresnia | he doesn't animate or so though I think |
| 21:40.28 | Bibendus | lul |
| 21:40.28 | Dresnia | making a model isn't THAT hard I think |
| 21:40.31 | Dresnia | just time consuming |
| 21:40.40 | Bibendus | making a nice model like that |
| 21:40.41 | Bibendus | is |
| 21:40.41 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:40.45 | Dresnia | but making them animated in a game etc |
| 21:40.50 | Dresnia | that's just hard |
| 21:41.18 | Dresnia | yeah a model of this 'level' is hard |
| 21:41.19 | Bibendus | omg watch the details :| |
| 21:41.44 | Bibendus | hes using the pen |
| 21:41.52 | Dresnia | you should see the 'guy' doing it |
| 21:41.55 | Dresnia | you seen twilight ? |
| 21:42.12 | Dresnia | the indian guy while he still had massive hair |
| 21:42.13 | Dresnia | its him |
| 21:42.45 | Bibendus | i didn t see this shitty movie |
| 21:42.48 | Bibendus | :D |
| 21:43.26 | Dresnia | hehe |
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| 22:02.23 | Dresnia | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/2251125#blog |
| 22:02.25 | Dresnia | Day9 |
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| 22:37.47 | Bounty | holy shit |
| 22:37.55 | Bounty | streaming in game mode with procaster is sick |
| 22:37.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:38.08 | Bounty | anyone wanan help me test something on my stream real fast? |
| 22:44.23 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 22:48.37 | Bounty | can u help jademussreg? |
| 22:48.48 | JademusSreg | Help with what? |
| 22:48.54 | Bounty | testin my stream real fast |
| 22:49.09 | Bounty | think i got it to run super fast |
| 22:49.17 | JademusSreg | Link |
| 22:49.29 | Bounty | www.livestream.com/bounty_98 |
| 22:49.33 | Bounty | gonna go live in 10 seconds |
| 22:55.41 | AlphA_VsT | omg |
| 22:55.53 | AlphA_VsT | give it a break already :P |
| 22:56.11 | Dresnia | :o |
| 23:02.41 | Bounty | give what a break? |
| 23:02.43 | Bounty | im testing shit |
| 23:02.57 | Bounty | JademusSreg, was there any lag for u? Dresnia says he had lots |
| 23:03.08 | JademusSreg | Some spikes. |
| 23:03.21 | Dresnia | I had rather alot of spikes once ingame |
| 23:08.05 | Bounty | maybe its bc i dont have a camera selected? |
| 23:09.33 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 23:09.43 | Bounty | idk lol |
| 23:29.19 | AlphA_VsT | i hate data |
| 23:33.04 | AlphA_VsT | Stupid shrines |
| 23:43.33 | AlphA_VsT | ops forgot to link the effect to the behavior |
| 23:43.40 | AlphA_VsT | YAY! |
| 23:45.09 | Dresnia | profit ! |
| 23:54.15 | Dresnia | n |
