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| 00:15.39 | Mexa | http://nasl.tv :) |
| 00:16.30 | Mexa | Oh it's still a replay I think |
| 00:16.34 | Mexa | *restream* |
| 00:20.26 | Dresnia | Goodnight :) |
| 00:20.31 | Mexa | yeah, 40min until the livestream |
| 00:20.33 | Mexa | Nighty |
| 00:26.34 | JademusSreg | Restarting. |
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| 00:43.53 | UloseTheGame | ~rodrigo |
| 00:43.53 | purl | well, rodrigo is not a troll :( |
| 00:44.03 | WAR | It's a fat matt damon |
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| 00:55.34 | Mexa | http://www.justin.tv/naslseasonone it is live!:) |
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| 01:01.26 | Bounty | You there Mephs? |
| 01:03.03 | Bounty | ok well is anyone here that has even alittle bit of knowledge about abilities? |
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| 01:05.12 | Bounty | anyone? |
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| 01:15.16 | Bounty | Stream is up www.livestream.com/bounty_98 |
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| 01:37.27 | Mexa | fucking people outside |
| 01:40.19 | Nash|327 | public sex? |
| 01:43.52 | Mexa | oh unash |
| 01:44.56 | Nash|327 | unash your ashtray? |
| 01:47.12 | Mexa | derp |
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| 01:47.28 | Mexa | Hey nash, have you heard about dusty the cat :/? |
| 01:49.02 | Nash|327 | KITTUNS? |
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| 01:49.15 | Mexa | Oh you don't want to know |
| 01:49.35 | Mexa | He was being abused by a stupid kid |
| 01:49.40 | UloseTheGame | who? |
| 01:49.41 | Mexa | Now you know |
| 01:49.46 | UloseTheGame | Mexa, what are you talking about? |
| 01:49.50 | Mexa | the cat |
| 01:49.54 | Mexa | Dusty |
| 01:50.07 | UloseTheGame | lol, who is this "dusty" |
| 01:50.45 | Mexa | Considering it is a pretty emotional, violent and hateful video, I'll leave that to you |
| 01:51.17 | Mexa | But I just recently saw it, and I am not filled with hate |
| 01:51.23 | Mexa | and sorrow? <.< |
| 01:51.41 | Mexa | And I realise that kid should die |
| 01:51.43 | Mexa | And burn |
| 01:53.45 | UloseTheGame | ~Rodrigo |
| 01:53.45 | purl | rodrigo is probably not a troll :( |
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| 01:54.13 | Mexa | Meh forget it anyway |
| 01:54.14 | UloseTheGame | anyone else seen rodrigo? |
| 01:54.21 | UloseTheGame | ~Rodrigo\ |
| 01:54.25 | UloseTheGame | ~rodrigo |
| 01:54.25 | purl | rumour has it, rodrigo is not a troll :( |
| 01:54.32 | Mexa | ~seen rodrigo |
| 01:54.36 | purl | rodrigo <8e239fb1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.35.159.177> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 22d 8h 15m 58s ago, saying: 'I'm gonna go to the cinema, YEAH'. |
| 01:54.36 | UloseTheGame | ~Rodrigo |
| 01:54.36 | purl | from memory, rodrigo is not a troll :( |
| 01:54.46 | UloseTheGame | ~Seen Rodrigo |
| 01:54.46 | purl | rodrigo <8e239fb1@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.35.159.177> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 22d 8h 16m 8s ago, saying: 'I'm gonna go to the cinema, YEAH'. |
| 01:54.51 | Mexa | You forgot the ^seen¨ |
| 01:55.08 | UloseTheGame | oh, who's purl btw? |
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| 01:55.16 | onetwo | sup |
| 01:55.48 | Mexa | hi |
| 01:55.53 | UloseTheGame | onetwo! |
| 01:56.00 | Mexa | Ulosethegame, it's the bot around curse |
| 01:56.04 | Mexa | I think |
| 01:56.06 | UloseTheGame | ah I see |
| 01:56.08 | Mexa | ~seen purl |
| 01:56.09 | purl | purl is currently on #casualti (11d 9h 31m 17s) #linuxfund (11d 9h 31m 17s) #waruidev (11d 9h 31m 17s) #how (11d 9h 31m 17s) #sc2mapster (11d 9h 31m 17s) #edev (11d 9h 31m 17s) #fossfund (11d 9h 31m 17s) #hosernet (11d 9h 31m 17s) #norganna (11d 9h 31m 17s) #ud (11d 9h 31m 17s) ##ducleague (11d 9h 31m 17s) ##kierra (11d 9h 31m 17s) #dbgc (11d 9h 31m ... |
| 01:56.19 | Mexa | or something.. |
| 01:56.35 | Mexa | some irc bot anyway |
| 01:57.06 | UloseTheGame | Okay, if rodrigo said he would be in europe 30 days |
| 01:57.12 | UloseTheGame | and he was seen 22d ago |
| 01:57.21 | UloseTheGame | there is good chance he will be back in a weekl |
| 01:57.29 | Mexa | possibly |
| 01:57.33 | Nash|327 | RESUME STALKING |
| 01:57.36 | UloseTheGame | Other than that I can only promote his map so much till he gets back |
| 01:57.44 | Mexa | nash|327 |
| 01:57.56 | Mexa | ~seen Vexal |
| 01:57.57 | purl | vexal <81740a3b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.129.116.10.59> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 26d 21h 39s ago, saying: 'today i learned slovenia is a country.'. |
| 01:58.51 | Mexa | alpha_vst, sentryIII, http://www.justin.tv/naslseasonone ? :) |
| 01:59.09 | Nash|327 | people who care about the game instantly lose 500 credibility and 1 internets |
| 01:59.32 | Mexa | what game? |
| 01:59.39 | Nash|327 | "the game" |
| 01:59.49 | Mexa | meh, that game |
| 02:00.14 | Mexa | A silly invention |
| 02:00.30 | Mexa | Good it is over so that people go back to normal somewhat |
| 02:00.41 | Nash|327 | I think people who play it are some sort of masochists. |
| 02:00.58 | Nash|327 | Or just brain damaged. |
| 02:01.52 | Nash|327 | they're easy to troll, so all the unoriginal lame trolls are all like YOU JUST LOST THE GAME LOLOLOL |
| 02:03.19 | Mexa | You mean 4chaners? |
| 02:03.21 | Nash|327 | Probably lots of overlap with the people who tell your mom "jokes". |
| 02:03.34 | Nash|327 | Right. |
| 02:04.07 | Mexa | Anonymous better not be behind psn... And the third attack awaiting |
| 02:04.15 | Mexa | pft |
| 02:04.16 | Nash|327 | But hey, at least they will never procreate. |
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| 02:05.00 | Mexa | Hmm |
| 02:05.20 | Mexa | I am thinking to make a dialog designer and an xml ui previewer |
| 02:05.28 | Mexa | Would people find it useful? |
| 02:05.50 | Nash|327 | UI layout editing with WYSIWYG? |
| 02:06.00 | Mexa | WYSIWYG? |
| 02:06.09 | Nash|327 | omg googleface |
| 02:06.16 | Mexa | oh |
| 02:06.20 | Mexa | Yeah |
| 02:06.27 | Mexa | Exactly |
| 02:06.39 | Mexa | It would be wysiwyg :) |
| 02:06.51 | Nash|327 | Should be good. |
| 02:07.12 | Nash|327 | Since the other option is to change stuff, start the game, test |
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| 02:07.17 | Mexa | yeah |
| 02:07.31 | Nash|327 | dialogs are so fucking annoying :/ |
| 02:07.37 | Mexa | And this way, it will be faster since the tool wouldn't be slow to use:) |
| 02:07.45 | Nash|327 | especialyl if you don't know how they work 100% |
| 02:07.49 | Mexa | And the availability to generate galaxy code would it have too |
| 02:08.06 | Nash|327 | EDIT, TEST MAP, LOADING SC2... |
| 02:08.13 | Nash|327 | OPEN DIALOG |
| 02:08.18 | Nash|327 | LOOKS LIKE SHIT |
| 02:08.20 | Mexa | Yeah Nash, have you seen the dialog designer map? |
| 02:08.23 | Nash|327 | repeat |
| 02:08.30 | Nash|327 | say what? |
| 02:08.30 | Mexa | You can design dialogs ingame with it |
| 02:08.44 | Nash|327 | that's hacking D:! |
| 02:08.49 | Mexa | Nah |
| 02:08.56 | Nash|327 | hax tbh |
| 02:09.07 | Mexa | But he generates a string which then is read through galaxy |
| 02:09.17 | Mexa | to then set your windows up |
| 02:09.24 | Nash|327 | how do you get the dialog out of the map? |
| 02:09.36 | Mexa | It generates a string |
| 02:09.48 | Mexa | And this string you also send to the library the guy made |
| 02:09.54 | Mexa | Which sets everything up |
| 02:10.00 | Mexa | You should try it |
| 02:10.10 | Nash|327 | generates a string where? banks? |
| 02:10.14 | Mexa | The only thing I dislike with it, is that you have to be in sc2:P |
| 02:10.25 | Mexa | No, you copypaste from the game |
| 02:10.29 | Mexa | editbox magic |
| 02:10.34 | Nash|327 | hmm |
| 02:11.01 | Nash|327 | didn't know you could copy/paste inside a map |
| 02:11.02 | Mexa | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/dialog-designer/ |
| 02:11.21 | Mexa | it's also wysiwyg |
| 02:11.38 | Mexa | But yeah, you need to be inside sc2 to make them:> |
| 02:13.33 | Nash|327 | haxhaxhax |
| 02:14.07 | Mexa | :p |
| 02:14.12 | Mexa | Yo dawg |
| 02:14.40 | Nash|327 | I heard you like dialogs? |
| 02:17.57 | Mexa | I lost the thread:> |
| 02:26.50 | Nash|327 | my hat is kind of groggy |
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| 02:28.11 | Nash|327 | and me knees hurt |
| 02:29.18 | Nash|327 | crap, typing is so hard |
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| 02:29.32 | Nash|327 | brain not operating |
| 02:30.25 | Nash|327 | time go sleep kthxface |
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| 02:57.52 | UloseTheGame | http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=sc2mapster anyone here want to watch nexus word wars? go here |
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| 03:11.53 | UloseTheGame | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Laertes |
| 03:16.52 | WAR | OMFG |
| 03:16.54 | WAR | DIALOG DESIGNER |
| 03:16.55 | WAR | I LVOE U |
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| 03:25.30 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 03:25.36 | Bounty | You there? |
| 03:27.57 | Mexa | hi Bounty |
| 03:28.34 | Bounty | howdy |
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| 03:31.22 | Bounty | So, i think i got WASD as responsive as possible until Blizz does something |
| 03:31.37 | Bounty | Got it as responsive as using an ability |
| 03:31.46 | Bounty | Because, well i made it into abilities lol |
| 03:32.26 | Mexa | the latency between abilities and input are slim, close to none afaIk¨ |
| 03:32.46 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:32.48 | Bounty | ok |
| 03:34.31 | Mexa | that depends though |
| 03:34.39 | Mexa | But I think I saw a video demostrating it |
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| 03:35.18 | griffin_ | Hello |
| 03:35.24 | Mexa | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/10104-tutorial-lagless-wasd-system-using-data-editor/?page=3#p42 this Bounty |
| 03:35.25 | griffin_ | I need a quick warcraft 3 editor help question |
| 03:35.31 | Mexa | interpret it as you want |
| 03:35.32 | griffin_ | i know this is for sc2 but theyre similiar, i work on both |
| 03:36.15 | Mexa | griffin_ what`? |
| 03:36.20 | griffin_ | Hi mexa thanks |
| 03:36.39 | griffin_ | Okay I am trying to lower the height of certain buildings in warcraft 3 ::: as in they stick too high out of the ground |
| 03:37.07 | griffin_ | so i picked a building like a human farm ::: and went to movement - height / movement - height minimum |
| 03:37.20 | griffin_ | i successfully in the editor window lowered them, but it doesnt show up in game |
| 03:38.47 | Bounty | Mexa |
| 03:38.50 | Bounty | i dont use that method |
| 03:38.52 | Bounty | at all lol |
| 03:39.03 | Mexa | Bounty, k |
| 03:39.06 | Bounty | he uses 100% data right? |
| 03:39.11 | Bounty | btw |
| 03:39.12 | Mexa | I don't know |
| 03:39.14 | Bounty | are you US or EU? |
| 03:39.17 | Mexa | EU |
| 03:39.20 | Mexa | zing |
| 03:39.21 | Bounty | figures |
| 03:39.21 | griffin_ | Can any1 answer my question |
| 03:39.23 | Bounty | so i cant show u |
| 03:39.25 | Bounty | lame |
| 03:39.42 | Mexa | griffin_ yeah, I sadly don't know :| |
| 03:39.48 | griffin_ | k ty |
| 03:39.51 | Mexa | I think for wc3 |
| 03:40.10 | Mexa | If I rewcall it right, buildings cannot be altered in their height |
| 03:40.21 | Mexa | Unless, they have another movement type specified |
| 03:40.39 | Mexa | or something like that |
| 03:40.53 | Mexa | Bounty, remember I am your contact for speedcraft on EU:P? |
| 03:41.19 | Bounty | yeah but im not gonna email u a map just to proove a point lol |
| 03:41.21 | Mexa | Bounty, I could try it, if you send me the map :3 |
| 03:41.24 | Mexa | aww |
| 03:41.33 | Mexa | I wanted to know :( |
| 03:41.33 | griffin_ | okay ty mexa |
| 03:41.33 | Bounty | but i think u know what i mean |
| 03:41.35 | Bounty | like |
| 03:41.41 | Bounty | when u use abilities |
| 03:41.43 | Bounty | there is a delay |
| 03:41.45 | Bounty | on bnet |
| 03:41.49 | Bounty | thats the delay of the wasd |
| 03:42.02 | Mexa | the event, so to speak |
| 03:42.08 | Bounty | i made a dummy button for each key, and gave it a hotkey |
| 03:42.14 | Bounty | the hotkey fires the ability |
| 03:42.21 | Mexa | I figured |
| 03:42.23 | Bounty | and i have a trigger that detects when those abilities are fired |
| 03:42.29 | Bounty | then it sets a boolean |
| 03:42.30 | Bounty | :) |
| 03:42.31 | griffin_ | Okay so mexa |
| 03:42.36 | griffin_ | change movement type from None to Foot |
| 03:42.36 | Mexa | but your wasd wouldn't be practical |
| 03:42.39 | griffin_ | for a building? |
| 03:42.46 | Bounty | well if ur using a command card it works |
| 03:42.49 | Bounty | u dont see the dummy buttons |
| 03:42.50 | Bounty | for WASD |
| 03:42.52 | Bounty | they have no icon |
| 03:42.55 | Bounty | so they are invisible |
| 03:43.00 | Mexa | Thats not what i mean |
| 03:43.08 | Mexa | You will only be able to detect keypresses |
| 03:43.20 | Bounty | well yeah |
| 03:43.21 | Mexa | So how long are you pressing the button? |
| 03:43.27 | Bounty | oh |
| 03:43.29 | Mexa | The input would be sluggy |
| 03:43.31 | Bounty | for Key Up |
| 03:43.37 | Bounty | i use keypress up event |
| 03:43.40 | Mexa | oh |
| 03:43.41 | Mexa | lol |
| 03:43.42 | Bounty | but for the keypress down event |
| 03:43.44 | Bounty | i use the abilities |
| 03:43.46 | Bounty | idk why |
| 03:43.52 | Bounty | but keypress up is faster then down |
| 03:43.55 | Mexa | Interesting combination.. |
| 03:44.07 | Bounty | well in my map u have to aim with wasd for some attacks |
| 03:44.10 | Mexa | griffin_ something like that |
| 03:44.13 | Bounty | so i gotta make it responsive lol |
| 03:44.24 | Mexa | But then, it could lead to unwanted behaviours griffin_ |
| 03:44.30 | Mexa | I dont remember wc3 nowadays |
| 03:44.34 | griffin_ | dammit |
| 03:44.38 | griffin_ | i tried but it isnt working |
| 03:44.46 | griffin_ | in the editor the building IS lowered to how i want it |
| 03:44.50 | griffin_ | but doesnt appear ingame |
| 03:44.57 | Mexa | griffin_ I think it must be either hover or air |
| 03:45.07 | griffin_ | okay |
| 03:45.08 | griffin_ | ty |
| 03:45.08 | Mexa | But in general, I think negative height is impossible |
| 03:45.24 | Mexa | Bounty, hmm |
| 03:45.25 | griffin_ | will changing to to air |
| 03:45.30 | griffin_ | affect dmg bonuses against it |
| 03:45.36 | griffin_ | like melee cant hit it now cuz its air or hover |
| 03:46.07 | Mexa | the dmg bonuses takes into consideraton of the armor type |
| 03:46.13 | UloseTheGame | www.livestream.com/scdebates nexus word wars games! |
| 03:46.14 | Mexa | So that should eb fine |
| 03:46.53 | Mexa | Bounty, would you not be kind to let me look at your invention^^? |
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| 03:47.50 | Mexa | griffin_ if the building doesn't change in height, the final thing would be to set it's type to unit. and that's where it would go towards the wrong step |
| 03:48.04 | griffin_ | okay |
| 03:48.14 | Mexa | That's all I have in mind |
| 03:48.30 | griffin_ | yea cuz |
| 03:48.35 | griffin_ | if i change it to ancient or something |
| 03:48.40 | griffin_ | it will change who can repair it maybe |
| 03:48.45 | griffin_ | only wisps can now repair |
| 03:51.00 | Mexa | ancient? |
| 03:51.03 | Mexa | Ignore those |
| 03:51.10 | Mexa | That has nothing to do with this |
| 03:51.53 | griffin_ | yea sucks man |
| 03:52.01 | griffin_ | i just want stuff like town hall / great hall to be lower >.> |
| 03:52.20 | Mexa | effin bounty :(/( |
| 03:52.36 | Mexa | well |
| 03:52.50 | Mexa | Anywho griffin, lowering anything below 0 is not going to work |
| 03:52.57 | Mexa | AfaIk |
| 03:53.02 | Mexa | Only on doodads |
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| 04:08.13 | UloseTheGame | www.livestream.com/scdebates |
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| 04:16.41 | tordy | hello ther |
| 04:20.16 | griffin_ | hi |
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| 04:26.57 | onetwo | hi |
| 04:28.13 | Mexa | hello |
| 04:46.43 | onetwo | working on my cs map for fun |
| 04:46.43 | onetwo | :D |
| 04:47.34 | Mephs | so i tried COT last night |
| 04:47.47 | Mephs | 8 seconds into the game i was being yelled at cuz i was looking at my abilities to see what was going on |
| 04:47.53 | Mephs | and this guy raged at me the entire game lol |
| 04:48.01 | Mephs | classy shit |
| 04:48.03 | Mexa | COT? |
| 04:48.07 | Mephs | city of tempest |
| 04:48.17 | Mexa | classic shit. |
| 04:48.25 | Mexa | the guy I mean |
| 04:48.26 | Mexa | lol |
| 04:48.30 | Mephs | meh |
| 04:48.34 | Mephs | more dota clones |
| 04:48.36 | Mephs | not that interesting |
| 04:48.54 | onetwo | dotas are too full of egos |
| 04:48.55 | onetwo | imo |
| 04:48.57 | Mexa | Can't blaim them for making aoes maps |
| 04:49.02 | onetwo | you spend 5s not sittin on front line grinding xp |
| 04:49.04 | onetwo | you lose |
| 04:49.05 | Mexa | Dota is not a genre |
| 04:49.10 | Mexa | <.< |
| 04:49.16 | onetwo | i liked tides of blood though |
| 04:49.27 | onetwo | it was just fun |
| 04:49.32 | Mexa | Machine vs MC now |
| 04:49.34 | Mexa | yay gogo |
| 04:49.39 | Mexa | gooo zerg |
| 04:49.47 | Mexa | lol |
| 04:50.09 | Mexa | http://www.justin.tv/naslseasonone anyways |
| 04:50.55 | onetwo | also i got a free awesome program |
| 04:51.06 | onetwo | cause im a student i got microsoft expression studio 4 free |
| 04:51.09 | onetwo | comes with screen recording tool |
| 04:51.34 | onetwo | gonna try it out on a tutorial soon |
| 04:51.38 | Mexa | And because we are students, we are not allowed to use it for commerical use whatsoever |
| 04:51.42 | Mexa | only to learn |
| 04:51.46 | Mexa | how convenient <.< |
| 04:52.11 | Mexa | onetwo, did you get it from Dreamspark too? |
| 04:52.14 | onetwo | yah |
| 04:52.20 | onetwo | but making video tutorials |
| 04:52.22 | onetwo | is not commercial |
| 04:52.29 | Mexa | well, I guess not |
| 04:52.29 | onetwo | also i have msdnaa stuff too |
| 04:52.39 | onetwo | actually i work at my colllege too part time |
| 04:52.42 | onetwo | and im in charge of msdnaa |
| 04:52.44 | Mexa | yeah, but neither of them are for commerical usage |
| 04:52.46 | onetwo | ironically |
| 04:52.50 | Mexa | lol |
| 04:52.55 | onetwo | true |
| 04:53.08 | onetwo | do people obide by those rules? |
| 04:53.10 | Mexa | I'll do it my way. I use their tool to learn and build whatever I am doing |
| 04:53.13 | onetwo | probably dont even know the rules |
| 04:53.27 | Mexa | Well |
| 04:53.30 | onetwo | i can bet you 90% of the people i give it to |
| 04:53.32 | onetwo | have no idea |
| 04:53.45 | Mexa | If you get out in the business later on, Microsoft can sue you or whatever |
| 04:53.53 | onetwo | yeah |
| 04:53.58 | Mexa | I don't know if they will |
| 04:54.11 | onetwo | well for dreamspark all i read was |
| 04:54.11 | Mexa | But I also have additional 3 years to find out |
| 04:54.15 | onetwo | if any abuse is going on |
| 04:54.23 | onetwo | your administrator can take action |
| 04:54.31 | onetwo | that admin is me and my boss |
| 04:54.35 | Mexa | lol |
| 04:54.47 | Mexa | good for you then I guess .-. |
| 04:55.14 | onetwo | but i abide by those rules |
| 04:55.14 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:55.24 | onetwo | infact i dont even need most of the programs |
| 04:55.29 | Mexa | onetwo, is expression studio any good? |
| 04:55.41 | onetwo | well the web program is meh buti dont got dreamweaver |
| 04:55.45 | onetwo | design is cool but i dont got illustrator |
| 04:55.49 | onetwo | its fun doing vector drawings |
| 04:55.53 | onetwo | but encoder is great |
| 04:55.55 | onetwo | and screen recorder |
| 04:55.57 | Mexa | I know I got it from dreamspark in the past, but I never too the time to learn it |
| 04:56.19 | Mexa | oh |
| 04:56.27 | Mexa | So it can record and output videos too? |
| 04:58.57 | onetwo | yes |
| 04:59.03 | onetwo | in nice quality too |
| 04:59.06 | onetwo | can crop anywhere on screen |
| 04:59.12 | onetwo | sound |
| 04:59.13 | onetwo | from comp and mic |
| 04:59.14 | onetwo | at same time |
| 04:59.20 | onetwo | compression is good too |
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| 05:02.11 | Mexa | nice |
| 05:02.18 | Mexa | Gotta try that out later |
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| 05:22.51 | AlphA_VsT | rawr |
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| 05:51.55 | tordy | cs map? |
| 05:52.06 | tordy | onetwo what did you not tell me! |
| 05:54.02 | tordy | also you're in charge of your school's msdnaa? |
| 05:54.03 | tordy | that's awesome |
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| 05:57.32 | onetwo | lol tordy |
| 05:57.40 | onetwo | i made a tf2 map back in the day |
| 05:57.49 | onetwo | http://www.gamebanana.com/maps/51482 |
| 05:58.02 | onetwo | that was the first map for any game i really completed and had somewhat success with |
| 05:58.21 | tordy | why didnt you tell me you were good w/ the hammer editor |
| 05:58.25 | tordy | HOLY SHIT |
| 05:58.28 | tordy | you made that!? |
| 05:58.30 | onetwo | yah |
| 05:58.37 | tordy | i played that a couple times on custom map servers |
| 05:58.39 | tordy | it was cool\ |
| 05:58.51 | onetwo | haha |
| 05:58.56 | onetwo | it was okay im |
| 05:58.56 | onetwo | imo |
| 05:59.06 | onetwo | im good at thematic things |
| 05:59.08 | ekcolnovkol | oh |
| 05:59.09 | onetwo | but balance is hard on tf2 |
| 05:59.10 | ekcolnovkol | that was yours? |
| 05:59.11 | ekcolnovkol | cool |
| 05:59.26 | ekcolnovkol | balance is super ez on tf2, just make it symmetrical lmao |
| 05:59.37 | tordy | but what fun is that? |
| 05:59.43 | ekcolnovkol | depends |
| 05:59.48 | ekcolnovkol | some symmetrical maps are pretty fun |
| 05:59.53 | tordy | yea they are |
| 05:59.56 | onetwo | but its CP map |
| 06:00.04 | ekcolnovkol | also, balance and fun are usually two different things |
| 06:00.05 | tordy | but i like balanced asymmetrical da best |
| 06:00.10 | onetwo | like dustbowl |
| 06:00.19 | onetwo | cant do symmetry |
| 06:00.32 | ekcolnovkol | i've always thought about some crazy tf2 map i wanted to work on but never got to into tf2 modding |
| 06:00.45 | ekcolnovkol | image a spherical ctf map :D |
| 06:00.45 | onetwo | i find cs/tf2 mapping harder |
| 06:00.49 | onetwo | because its very time consuming |
| 06:00.51 | onetwo | just for the art |
| 06:01.00 | onetwo | whereas war3 mapping is more like programming |
| 06:01.04 | onetwo | and a bit of placement of doodads |
| 06:01.49 | ekcolnovkol | the only reason i remember this map |
| 06:01.57 | ekcolnovkol | was because of that super shiny room with all the floating dots |
| 06:02.02 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:02.07 | ekcolnovkol | it was like |
| 06:02.08 | onetwo | thats where ive been lately.. playing cs source |
| 06:02.09 | tordy | btw are you making a map for 1.6 or css? |
| 06:02.10 | ekcolnovkol | lens flare 9000% |
| 06:02.29 | onetwo | lens flare 9000%? id look at a pop video on tv |
| 06:02.29 | onetwo | for that |
| 06:02.32 | onetwo | every video is doing it now |
| 06:02.45 | onetwo | map is for css but not a serious map |
| 06:02.52 | onetwo | i like playing cs cause its relaxing |
| 06:02.54 | tordy | like nipper's maps? |
| 06:03.12 | onetwo | not even that |
| 06:03.16 | onetwo | just designing cool areas |
| 06:03.19 | onetwo | not evne thinking |
| 06:03.19 | onetwo | really |
| 06:03.23 | tordy | after the whole tf2 hat debacle, ive been playing css non-stop |
| 06:03.34 | tordy | the whole hat thing and store drove me away from tf2 |
| 06:04.03 | onetwo | oh |
| 06:04.06 | onetwo | i havent played tf2 since before then |
| 06:04.08 | onetwo | http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/8065/csmap.jpg |
| 06:04.12 | onetwo | thats what my css map looks like |
| 06:04.22 | onetwo | im playing with the goldeneye temple look |
| 06:04.23 | onetwo | high concrete |
| 06:04.36 | tordy | grid-like textures |
| 06:04.41 | ekcolnovkol | your light sources are all over the place o _O |
| 06:04.41 | tordy | from perfect dark |
| 06:04.59 | tordy | i played 50 hours of css last 2 weeks |
| 06:05.01 | tordy | god damn |
| 06:05.02 | onetwo | lol wait till you see my inspiration |
| 06:05.05 | onetwo | for that shot |
| 06:05.05 | tordy | i need to take a break |
| 06:05.06 | onetwo | watch this |
| 06:05.51 | tordy | onetwo have you seen de_bluecorridor? |
| 06:06.00 | onetwo | http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/9127/ep2outland020002.jpg |
| 06:06.03 | onetwo | from hl2 ep 2 |
| 06:06.06 | onetwo | i almost recreated it |
| 06:06.13 | tordy | =o |
| 06:06.24 | onetwo | yah bluecorridor looks amazing |
| 06:06.28 | onetwo | i play on AHP custom map server |
| 06:06.34 | onetwo | its like their dust 2 |
| 06:06.43 | onetwo | thats what ive been doing since last november mostly |
| 06:06.48 | onetwo | slowly less and less time spent on tuts/mapping |
| 06:06.49 | onetwo | and more time playing cs |
| 06:06.50 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:07.57 | onetwo | valves mappers are amazing |
| 06:08.03 | onetwo | but i guess when youre paid and work 8 hours a day on it |
| 06:08.04 | onetwo | its easier |
| 06:08.08 | onetwo | i get distracted easily |
| 06:08.55 | ekcolnovkol | hey |
| 06:09.01 | ekcolnovkol | does tordy have a site for battlecraft? |
| 06:09.13 | ekcolnovkol | o _o |
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| 08:44.16 | tordy | omfg |
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| 08:57.10 | Mexa | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220561 chibi zergs :3 |
| 09:00.17 | Bibendus | lol |
| 09:03.05 | Hati | awwwwww# |
| 09:03.58 | Mexa | Awazing how many views it got in under a day too |
| 09:04.05 | Mexa | *replies |
| 09:06.32 | Sixen | lol, that's awesome |
| 09:07.51 | Mexa | I'd by a tshirt of those, if they existed:p |
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| 10:19.06 | Dresnia | Took like 10 connect attempts too get on ? o_O |
| 10:29.02 | Mexa | great |
| 10:29.10 | Mexa | So now I got a migrene |
| 10:29.13 | Mexa | :7 |
| 10:29.19 | Mexa | fucking shitpickles |
| 10:31.15 | Dresnia | your pooping pickles ? |
| 10:32.06 | Mexa | nvm, it was a reference to angry video game nerd if you heard about him. |
| 10:32.30 | Mexa | Point being I'm all mad and sad now, so I better go to bed trying to get rid of the headache |
| 10:32.36 | RazielZ | haha shitpickle |
| 10:32.37 | RazielZ | oh god |
| 10:32.44 | tordy | umad |
| 10:32.52 | RazielZ | I remember I laughed every time it said a word. >.> |
| 10:32.58 | Mexa | lol |
| 10:33.02 | Mexa | whatever it said |
| 10:33.05 | Mexa | prrshfhr |
| 10:33.23 | Mexa | Anyways, later folks. |
| 10:41.01 | Dresnia | BB |
| 10:45.05 | tordy | b |
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| 11:32.30 | tordy | Helral|Afk: !!!! |
| 11:32.31 | tordy | :( |
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| 11:53.43 | Dresnia | http://wulffmorgenthaler.com/2006/02/18/ |
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| 13:03.39 | syltman | do you guys think an evolution based map would be cool? |
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| 13:13.46 | tordy | do not make me count to smerglar! |
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| 13:47.03 | Dresnia | syltman evolution of what ? |
| 13:47.14 | Dresnia | ballhair ? human race ? television ? |
| 13:47.19 | syltman | Dresnia a zerg |
| 13:47.22 | syltman | to like I dunno |
| 13:47.27 | syltman | kinda like a fake evolution |
| 13:47.40 | syltman | that goes super fast, as a game mechanic |
| 13:47.50 | Dresnia | Would it be 'for fun' |
| 13:47.54 | Dresnia | or aiming for online |
| 13:48.06 | syltman | Dresnia well I kinda think it like gear |
| 13:48.06 | Jum-Jum | I remember a map named Darwins island for Wc3 |
| 13:48.09 | Jum-Jum | it was actually a lot of fun |
| 13:48.17 | Jum-Jum | you started off as the smallest animal and had to 'eat your way up' |
| 13:48.27 | Jum-Jum | and depending on what you killed\ate you evolved |
| 13:48.29 | Jum-Jum | was a lot of fun |
| 13:48.32 | Dresnia | Now that sounds like fun. |
| 13:48.41 | Dresnia | But isn't that baneling map already like this ? |
| 13:48.42 | syltman | Jum-Jum exactly |
| 13:48.49 | syltman | Dresnia dunno |
| 13:49.05 | Dresnia | It's on our frontpage, recently posted. |
| 13:49.34 | syltman | oh it is |
| 13:49.55 | syltman | well I'll be @ sc2 |
| 13:50.07 | Dresnia | See you around, gl hf :-) |
| 13:51.09 | syltman | or it's not on EU I guess |
| 13:56.28 | syltman | hmm |
| 13:56.48 | syltman | well it has some of the evolution mechanics |
| 13:57.22 | syltman | however I thought envolving would be like a level up in that you get a new look and a new set of abilities |
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| 14:05.18 | Dresnia | Hmm |
| 14:05.22 | Dresnia | Possible, yeah. |
| 14:05.31 | Dresnia | Wouldn't be difficult / complex too make |
| 14:05.45 | Dresnia | Just need too think it over good so its balanced and fun too play |
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| 14:08.25 | tordy | Helral|Afk: !? |
| 14:08.33 | tordy | how do you scale a frame |
| 14:08.45 | tordy | changing width and height doesnt work |
| 14:08.53 | tordy | since info will be cutoff |
| 14:11.24 | Helral|Afk | meow |
| 14:11.30 | tordy | helral hello! |
| 14:11.37 | tordy | [10:08] <tordy> how do you scale a frame [10:08] <tordy> changing width and height doesnt work [10:08] <tordy> since info will be cutoff |
| 14:11.50 | Helral|Afk | hmmm depends what frame do you want to scale? ;p |
| 14:12.03 | Dresnia | Helral|Afk write us a code too resize our penis |
| 14:12.05 | tordy | the unit info panel |
| 14:12.06 | Dresnia | Would be handy |
| 14:12.06 | tordy | the picture |
| 14:12.12 | tordy | and the portrait |
| 14:12.14 | tordy | the wireframe pic |
| 14:12.21 | Helral|Afk | Dresnia: go look for pr0n ;p |
| 14:12.33 | Dresnia | My wife sits in the living room too |
| 14:12.46 | Helral|Afk | Dresnia: well why do you need me then? |
| 14:12.58 | tordy | also minimap too |
| 14:13.01 | Dresnia | I'm bored :-( |
| 14:13.07 | Dresnia | Don't mind me, help tordy ! |
| 14:13.12 | ProzaicMuze | Helral is a jew |
| 14:13.18 | Dresnia | slaps ProzaicMuze around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:13.19 | tordy | omg ProzaicMuze |
| 14:13.21 | Helral|Afk | Tordy: the unit info panel itself is just a container for the multiple bits. you can resize the bits sepratly |
| 14:13.35 | Helral|Afk | I'm an Atheïst not a Jew ;p |
| 14:13.53 | ProzaicMuze | More lies |
| 14:13.55 | ProzaicMuze | you are clearly a jew |
| 14:13.58 | ProzaicMuze | you want me to do work for you |
| 14:14.01 | ProzaicMuze | That's what jews do |
| 14:14.05 | ProzaicMuze | You are so busted! |
| 14:14.14 | Helral|Afk | ProzaicMuze: what do I want you to do for me then? |
| 14:14.22 | ProzaicMuze | Fill in some wiki crap lol |
| 14:14.25 | Helral|Afk | hehehe |
| 14:14.25 | ProzaicMuze | I'm trying to find said wiki |
| 14:15.06 | ProzaicMuze | Holy emptiness |
| 14:15.19 | Helral|Afk | wiki link is gone wrong since last 6th May. they didn't link it to wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy |
| 14:15.42 | Helral|Afk | PM: http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/data/movers/ |
| 14:15.53 | Helral|Afk | that's the page if I remember correctly ;p |
| 14:16.00 | ProzaicMuze | Psh |
| 14:16.03 | ProzaicMuze | I already found it |
| 14:16.04 | ProzaicMuze | too slow |
| 14:16.07 | Helral|Afk | lol |
| 14:16.32 | Helral|Afk | I was really annoyed friday when I noticed that the wiki pagelink was wrong ;p |
| 14:17.23 | Helral|Afk | Tordy: afaik you cannot resize the whole, but you need to resize the stuff inside the InfoPanel container as well as the container itself :S |
| 14:17.34 | tordy | im so confused |
| 14:17.40 | tordy | how do i know what it's called |
| 14:17.43 | Helral|Afk | minimap I haven't played with resizing yet, it might be hardcoded sized. |
| 14:18.21 | Helral|Afk | follow the structure ( http://109.71.49.81/SC2LayoutFrames.html ) that link contains the entire structure of the frames. |
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| 14:19.30 | ProzaicMuze | So can I completely redo some of these definitions? |
| 14:19.38 | Helral|Afk | <Frame type='Minimap' name='GameUI/UIContainer/ConsoleUIContainer/MinimapPanel/Minimap' file='GameUI'> <-- eg. that is the frame notation for the minimap itself. |
| 14:19.39 | ProzaicMuze | The very first one is. . . well. . . vague |
| 14:19.48 | Helral|Afk | ProzaicMuze: sure |
| 14:20.11 | Helral|Afk | ProzaicMuze: If what is written there is vague or incorrect, correct it :) |
| 14:20.19 | ProzaicMuze | "Mover defines movement behaviour, how to jump up/down cliffs, how to fly" |
| 14:20.43 | ProzaicMuze | ./wrist at grammar |
| 14:20.47 | Helral|Afk | hehehe |
| 14:20.49 | ProzaicMuze | Must. . . not. . . troll. . . |
| 14:20.49 | tordy | i still dont understand what the pos attribute means |
| 14:20.55 | tordy | what does min/mid/max mean |
| 14:21.06 | tordy | are they the starting positions? |
| 14:21.12 | tordy | from where the offsets work? |
| 14:21.17 | Helral|Afk | yup |
| 14:21.31 | Helral|Afk | min = total left/top of 'relative' element. |
| 14:21.42 | Helral|Afk | max = total right/bottom of 'relative' element |
| 14:22.13 | tordy | so i cant use min w/ right or bottom? |
| 14:22.15 | Helral|Afk | and the side defines which side of the current element is positioned at that position (but you'd prolly know that already) |
| 14:22.41 | Helral|Afk | command button example: [0][1][2][3][4] |
| 14:23.34 | Helral|Afk | button4 can be positioned at pos:max, side:right, relative:$parent. button3 can then be positions at pos:min, side:right, relative:$parent/button4 |
| 14:24.26 | Helral|Afk | basicly what button3's anchor says is, place the right side of this button at the left side of button4 |
| 14:24.29 | ProzaicMuze | I have half a mind to just link my tutorial and call it good |
| 14:24.35 | ProzaicMuze | Since I feel like I'm just copying everything from that :S |
| 14:24.41 | Helral|Afk | hehehe |
| 14:25.06 | Helral|Afk | well you can place a link at the top of the page to your tutorial, just ad a bit there called Tutorials and list it below it. |
| 14:25.37 | Helral|Afk | so basicly the main header says Movers, subheaders: Description, Hint, Tutorials |
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| 14:28.36 | tordy | man that thinig is hella useful |
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| 14:32.12 | Helral|Afk | tordy: that site? |
| 14:32.16 | tordy | yea |
| 14:32.18 | tordy | i saved it |
| 14:32.26 | tordy | on my local computer |
| 14:32.28 | tordy | >:) |
| 14:32.33 | tordy | the web page |
| 14:32.42 | tordy | how often does the UI change with each patch |
| 14:33.40 | ProzaicMuze | lol |
| 14:33.42 | Helral|Afk | changes that really have impact on your UI. small chance unless you've adjusted everything of the UI. |
| 14:33.49 | ProzaicMuze | so who made these descriptions? |
| 14:34.28 | Helral|Afk | ProzaicMuze: avogatro I think. |
| 14:34.53 | ProzaicMuze | Remind me to direct him to my tutorial |
| 14:35.07 | Helral|Afk | hehehe |
| 14:35.10 | tordy | avogatro my man man |
| 14:35.14 | tordy | MAN |
| 14:35.38 | Helral|Afk | he wrote it 2 months ago ;p |
| 14:36.15 | ProzaicMuze | Well |
| 14:36.19 | ProzaicMuze | even two months ago |
| 14:36.28 | ProzaicMuze | Glide (unused) |
| 14:36.34 | ProzaicMuze | For Height Map values |
| 14:36.38 | ProzaicMuze | is wrong lol |
| 14:36.43 | ProzaicMuze | Silly goose |
| 14:42.42 | tordy | weeeeeeeeeeee |
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| 15:10.29 | Blub\w | should you happen to encounter a player named "Boss" in teamgames |
| 15:10.32 | Blub\w | he's a drophacker... |
| 15:10.41 | Blub\w | (I know names are not unique) |
| 15:10.42 | Blub\w | (still) |
| 15:13.10 | Blub\w | I get that people like making "hacks"... but shouldn't they then rather send the source code to blizzard so they can fix the problem? >.< |
| 15:13.18 | Blub\w | why do people actually USE them >.< |
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| 15:57.33 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 15:59.09 | Mexa | As have I |
| 15:59.24 | SentryIII | Me 4 |
| 16:00.32 | JademusSreg | Someone saved me the trouble of starting a topic on TL. |
| 16:00.49 | Mexa | you mean those fantastic chibi zerg? |
| 16:01.06 | JademusSreg | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=215392 |
| 16:01.07 | SentryIII | <3 |
| 16:01.59 | Mexa | lol, nice |
| 16:02.17 | Mexa | brb |
| 16:02.50 | Mexa | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220561 have a zerg while waiting :D |
| 16:03.14 | JademusSreg | Haha |
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| 16:27.00 | Kueken | hey |
| 16:27.30 | Kueken | somebody willing to give some feedback on hero skins? |
| 16:27.35 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 16:27.44 | Kueken | tried some new ones, and I am not sure if they look good |
| 16:27.53 | JademusSreg | Irony: "Chinese iPad Workers Forced To Sign "No Suicide" Pledge" |
| 16:28.00 | JademusSreg | Have screenshots? |
| 16:28.09 | Kueken | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPa7ip_EfPE&hd=1 |
| 16:28.18 | Kueken | oh wait |
| 16:28.21 | Kueken | old one |
| 16:28.37 | Kueken | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTagh_hnmbU&hd=1 |
| 16:28.57 | Kueken | those I made earlier today |
| 16:29.17 | JademusSreg | What was the blue faced one? |
| 16:29.39 | Kueken | start from first vid? |
| 16:29.47 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 16:29.55 | Kueken | a default preserver |
| 16:29.57 | JademusSreg | I like the dark, slick looking one. |
| 16:30.06 | Kueken | continue the vid to see attachment and skin variations |
| 16:30.09 | Kueken | ah |
| 16:30.11 | Kueken | k |
| 16:30.33 | JademusSreg | This reminds me of WH40k. |
| 16:30.43 | JademusSreg | Army painter. |
| 16:31.06 | Kueken | yes ;) army painter kinda inspired me |
| 16:31.43 | JademusSreg | The chrome and gold marine skins look neat. |
| 16:31.56 | JademusSreg | The gold has the better profile though. |
| 16:31.59 | Kueken | I specifically would like to know, which ones you not like |
| 16:32.08 | Kueken | so I can eventually improve them |
| 16:32.15 | JademusSreg | Chrome hydra do not want. |
| 16:32.23 | Kueken | :D |
| 16:32.54 | JademusSreg | The slick black hydra needs a defining characteristic. |
| 16:33.20 | JademusSreg | The roach skin with the blue face, didn't like that one; no idea what it was. |
| 16:33.51 | JademusSreg | The slick black hydra needs some detail, maybe some emissive cracks or something. |
| 16:34.05 | JademusSreg | Glowing lines along the contours of its carapace. |
| 16:34.10 | Kueken | hydra doesnt support emissive :/ |
| 16:34.22 | JademusSreg | Well fuck. |
| 16:34.29 | Kueken | yep |
| 16:34.37 | Kueken | just like roach and raynor |
| 16:34.40 | JademusSreg | Plague Ultra and Zebra Ultra look alright. |
| 16:34.43 | Kueken | roach not even specular |
| 16:35.12 | Kueken | "zebra ultra" = stank from L2D :D |
| 16:35.19 | JademusSreg | Heh. |
| 16:35.22 | Kueken | or plague |
| 16:35.29 | Kueken | whatever you mean with what |
| 16:35.45 | JademusSreg | I was refering to both of the ultra skins. |
| 16:36.04 | JademusSreg | I like the Preserver skins. |
| 16:36.09 | JademusSreg | Very shiny. |
| 16:36.09 | Kueken | I dunno which one you labelled plague and which zebra ^^ |
| 16:36.15 | burne- | Kueken: I still think the customization is cool, but you should try to improve the gameplay |
| 16:36.28 | Kueken | yes sure |
| 16:36.30 | burne- | I liked the defensive spells you could cast in wc3, are you gona add those? |
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| 16:36.42 | Kueken | the shrines? |
| 16:36.44 | burne- | y |
| 16:36.54 | Kueken | well, I sort of disliked them |
| 16:37.00 | Kueken | dunno |
| 16:37.17 | JademusSreg | DigiThor is ambivalent. |
| 16:37.18 | burne- | it might be better to leave them out indeed, since most wouldnt even know how to use them |
| 16:37.32 | burne- | but I feel like it aint in the level of wc3 HLW anyway |
| 16:37.43 | Kueken | certainly not ;) |
| 16:37.58 | Kueken | wc3 hlw evolved over several years |
| 16:38.30 | JademusSreg | Marauder skins are neat. |
| 16:38.36 | JademusSreg | And that should be all of em. |
| 16:38.47 | Kueken | what about the attachments? |
| 16:39.01 | Kueken | anything terrible stood out? ;) |
| 16:39.12 | JademusSreg | Only the ones I mentioned. |
| 16:39.20 | Kueken | ok |
| 16:39.26 | Kueken | thanks for your time :) |
| 16:39.33 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 16:41.09 | Bibendus | mm |
| 16:41.11 | Bibendus | guys |
| 16:41.16 | Bibendus | how do I change the color palette in photoshop? |
| 16:42.10 | Bibendus | my white is a bit pink now :| |
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| 16:57.22 | JademusSreg | Weird. |
| 16:58.18 | JademusSreg | Are you editing a gif or any other format with a defined palette? |
| 16:59.05 | JademusSreg | If so, you can change the color depth from the... Edit or Image top menu I think. |
| 17:01.22 | Nash|327 | http://imgur.com/Po3pG |
| 17:01.55 | Nash|327 | It'll have to do D; |
| 17:02.12 | Nash|327 | I suck at drawing and such |
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| 17:03.02 | JademusSreg | Pretty good. |
| 17:03.37 | JademusSreg | SUPER FIRST AID |
| 17:04.59 | Nash|327 | full heal medkit |
| 17:06.31 | burne- | Im really puzzled how money market works. It seems if findland doesnt want to "lend" money to portugal, who world will go in chaos |
| 17:06.34 | burne- | is that really possible? |
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| 17:07.16 | burne- | I somehow feel like its money wasted to give money to portugal, since alread 2 other countries have done the same and more will most likely follow |
| 17:08.08 | burne- | :/ |
| 17:08.16 | burne- | we are talking about serious business now! |
| 17:09.00 | Nash|327 | How it works is: you pay taxes, government gets tax money, governments spend tax money propping up the capitalist system, tax money disappears into private corporations, private corporations dodge tax |
| 17:10.40 | Nash|327 | so first you get fucked over because the corporation takes most of the profit you produce when you work, then you get fucked over again with taxes that are pretty much handed out to private corporations |
| 17:11.55 | Nash|327 | It's a speculation system where people with money play around, with huge consequences. |
| 17:12.20 | Nash|327 | And as long as things are going well, profit margins swell and all that money goes into private pockets. |
| 17:13.14 | burne- | mm Im not sure about the priva corporation theory, but I sure think they waste the money to something useless |
| 17:13.16 | Nash|327 | Then once they fuck up they go begging the government to give them money because they wasted all theirs on speculations and if they don't get money the workers are the ones who suffer most. |
| 17:13.27 | burne- | and I dont know how banks can get themselves in so fucked up possition |
| 17:13.43 | burne- | and goverment lends more and more money all the time |
| 17:13.53 | burne- | its like eventually we will face this situation again |
| 17:13.55 | Nash|327 | WE FUCKED UP, GIVE US MONEY OR WE CLSOE DOWN AND YOU GET MASS UNEMPLOYMENT |
| 17:13.58 | burne- | just mattter of time |
| 17:14.10 | burne- | Nash|327: are you from portugal? |
| 17:14.15 | Nash|327 | No. |
| 17:15.01 | burne- | but yea I guess the normal people who will suffer again |
| 17:15.21 | burne- | I should start playing poker again |
| 17:15.27 | burne- | its tax free profit in EU area |
| 17:15.34 | Nash|327 | Capitalism doesn't work. This market economy doesn't work. |
| 17:15.58 | Nash|327 | It has to be propped up by taxes which are taken from people who work. |
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| 17:17.34 | Nash|327 | So, yes, this situation will return. Again and again. |
| 17:17.39 | burne- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXw5fMIYGqg&feature=None_education |
| 17:17.44 | burne- | what a weird video |
| 17:22.03 | Nash|327 | If the government actually gave a crap they'd be like "you fucked up, we're taking over your shit now". |
| 17:22.31 | Nash|327 | But they are too pro-capitalist, so keep giving money to the same idiots who keep fucking up. |
| 17:22.44 | Nash|327 | And thus it shall repeat itself forever and ever. |
| 17:23.39 | Nash|327 | or at least until the planet becomes uninhabitable :G |
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| 17:25.12 | burne- | yes yes, I wonder if they can fix their problems even with more money |
| 17:25.24 | burne- | they just wana drag everyone in I guess |
| 17:25.32 | burne- | greek was real assholes |
| 17:25.39 | burne- | they were covering their shit for so long |
| 17:26.19 | burne- | the whole concept of "same money for all countries" was a failure |
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| 17:26.25 | burne- | dunno if its possible to fix that |
| 17:26.34 | Helral|Afk | meow? |
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| 17:29.39 | JademusSreg | So how does one go about reporting drophackers? |
| 17:31.12 | AlphA_VsT | hit the report button after a game |
| 17:31.31 | JademusSreg | Too late. It was last night. |
| 17:31.37 | AlphA_VsT | to late |
| 17:31.40 | JademusSreg | But I have their handles, via the repklay. |
| 17:31.45 | JademusSreg | *replay |
| 17:31.45 | AlphA_VsT | so |
| 17:31.56 | AlphA_VsT | you dont have the code |
| 17:31.59 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 17:32.01 | JademusSreg | I'll report em somehow. |
| 17:32.12 | JademusSreg | Code doesn't matter. |
| 17:32.23 | AlphA_VsT | why not |
| 17:32.43 | AlphA_VsT | then send the reply with a email to blizzard |
| 17:32.53 | AlphA_VsT | hacks@ whatever |
| 17:33.00 | AlphA_VsT | i think it is |
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| 18:08.56 | Nash|327 | http://i.imgur.com/uGHsY.png http://i.imgur.com/MGljk.png |
| 18:09.03 | Nash|327 | medkit and battery D; |
| 18:09.53 | JademusSreg | Battery does not please. Unless it is retro future themed. |
| 18:10.07 | JademusSreg | Looks like a battery from a scifi film made in the 70s. |
| 18:10.12 | Nash|327 | heh |
| 18:10.40 | Nash|327 | with huge resistors on the sides |
| 18:11.31 | Nash|327 | I was just going for something that looked battery-like |
| 18:13.47 | Nash|327 | well it'll have to do for now :G |
| 18:13.59 | Nash|327 | I need to eat something |
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| 18:22.06 | SentryIII | wtf |
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| 18:22.12 | SentryIII | is the stream off? |
| 18:22.26 | SentryIII | says Off Air for me |
| 18:22.27 | SentryIII | >.> |
| 18:23.23 | Helral|Afk | which stream? |
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| 18:29.58 | SentryIII | the TSL stream |
| 18:30.10 | SentryIII | apparently it was on their end |
| 18:30.18 | SentryIII | and its happening again >.> |
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| 19:09.00 | burne- | I am dissapoint |
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| 19:11.59 | Dresnia | burne- ! |
| 19:11.59 | Dresnia | sup |
| 19:12.12 | burne- | nothing much im just stressed as always |
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| 19:19.18 | burne- | yes! |
| 19:19.21 | burne- | finally got an idea |
| 19:19.32 | burne- | been thining of nice spells for so long |
| 19:19.50 | burne- | now I got 1 idea which will be hard to make but I still wana try doing it |
| 19:23.22 | Dresnia | cool |
| 19:23.25 | Dresnia | what sort off spell |
| 19:24.07 | burne- | secret, I will most likely fail at making it |
| 19:25.04 | Nash|327 | turn enemies into bananas |
| 19:26.27 | Nash|327 | should do a fruit themed map, one of the skills could be Fruit Punch :D! |
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| 19:29.00 | Nash|327 | Banana Split... |
| 19:29.41 | Nash|327 | Pineapple grenade! |
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| 19:43.44 | burne- | ROFL |
| 19:43.50 | burne- | this looks absolutely hilarious |
| 19:43.55 | burne- | I wish you could see it ^^ |
| 19:47.20 | burne- | there is just a problem I cannot display animation while moving unit |
| 19:47.34 | burne- | I wonder if its possible to constantly force unit to play the same animation |
| 19:49.37 | SentryIII | wow that wasn't exciting... >.> |
| 19:57.03 | burne- | This time Ill try to get something done before making another video |
| 19:57.15 | burne- | even though this single thing is awesome enough for its own video |
| 19:57.31 | burne- | if anyone has played super mario RPG its something similar to marios special skill :) |
| 19:57.42 | burne- | (building up the hype) |
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| 20:02.03 | burne- | fine fine... |
| 20:02.10 | burne- | I show you a spoier |
| 20:02.13 | burne- | spoiler |
| 20:02.56 | burne- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9PlGQYHnDs |
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| 20:03.07 | burne- | I did something like this and it looks quite funny :D |
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| 20:26.22 | burne- | I understand you all went speechles! |
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| 20:28.06 | Mephs | its because we're afk |
| 20:28.34 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 20:28.45 | Mephs | ugh like 99% done this shit finally |
| 20:28.47 | Mephs | yesssssssssssssssssss |
| 20:29.02 | Nash|327 | Your video link sucked, but since you seemed to want a reply, here you go: Your video link sucked. |
| 20:29.28 | Mephs | that kind of immature attitude isn't needed nash |
| 20:29.32 | Mephs | you nigger lesbian |
| 20:29.36 | Mephs | brb |
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| 20:30.43 | burne- | hehe |
| 20:31.46 | Nash|327 | bag-a-kittun |
| 20:32.25 | burne- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3hESfCyVDg&feature=relmfu |
| 20:32.26 | burne- | lol |
| 20:34.07 | burne- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JihhB4uwgFM&feature=relmfu |
| 20:34.10 | burne- | funny stuff |
| 20:34.57 | burne- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6c80UDpv2NA&feature=relmfu |
| 20:35.01 | burne- | comments are the best: |
| 20:35.10 | burne- | This is the sound slugs would make when you pour salt on them.. |
| 20:35.14 | burne- | olold :D |
| 20:35.28 | burne- | I guess thats enough rambling alone |
| 20:38.01 | Dresnia | lol burne- |
| 20:38.10 | Dresnia | hahaha lifting fail |
| 20:38.16 | Dresnia | what a douche |
| 20:38.31 | burne- | I cant help myself -_-, I should go sleeping but im not tired |
| 20:38.37 | burne- | i gotta wake up at 6am |
| 20:38.43 | Dresnia | It's only 10 30 |
| 20:38.46 | Dresnia | chillaxe |
| 20:38.52 | burne- | so ill try to get 5-6h sleep |
| 20:39.06 | Dresnia | plenty |
| 20:39.14 | Dresnia | I get about 10-11 sleep |
| 20:39.24 | burne- | its 11.30 here -_- |
| 20:44.49 | Dresnia | mapping time ! |
| 20:45.15 | burne- | mm |
| 20:45.22 | burne- | do it! |
| 20:47.38 | Dresnia | ^^ |
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| 20:48.23 | Dresnia | http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/594/screenshot2011050812373.jpg |
| 20:48.32 | Dresnia | spawn point I made for Kueken's HLW map |
| 20:49.05 | Dresnia | and a 'doodad' place in progress http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3916/reactorj.jpg |
| 20:49.06 | Dresnia | ;P |
| 20:51.16 | Obatztrara | are you revamping the complete map's terrain Dresnia? |
| 20:51.26 | Dresnia | for HLW ? Yeah |
| 20:51.33 | Obatztrara | Neat :) |
| 20:51.45 | Dresnia | It's a side project for me though |
| 20:51.47 | Obatztrara | The terrain was kinda (very!) boring |
| 20:51.51 | Dresnia | And it's not 100% Kueken will like it |
| 20:53.15 | Obatztrara | well, good luck :) |
| 20:56.47 | burne- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY-Dzv-nQrE&feature=relmfu |
| 20:56.49 | burne- | asdasd |
| 20:57.15 | Obatztrara | anyone on EU in the mood for a test of Warlords ORPG? (Preferably players that haven't played it before) |
| 20:57.18 | Dresnia | Thanks Obatztrara :) |
| 20:57.27 | Dresnia | But his HLW map is 95% focused on Hero's |
| 20:57.36 | Dresnia | The terrain should be rather standard |
| 20:57.59 | Obatztrara | true |
| 20:58.11 | Obatztrara | more eyecandy wont hurt though :) |
| 20:58.17 | Obatztrara | as long as its not too perfomce coty |
| 20:58.20 | Obatztrara | costy* |
| 20:58.24 | Obatztrara | (is that even a word?!) |
| 20:58.31 | Dresnia | Well this spawn point is moving underneath it |
| 20:58.36 | Dresnia | with pipes running through it |
| 20:58.44 | Dresnia | It has like 8 doodads tweaked 'underground' |
| 20:58.57 | Dresnia | takes some epic mouse control and height tweaking |
| 20:59.02 | Dresnia | causse once you 'drop' it underground |
| 20:59.09 | Dresnia | you can't move it / reach it properly |
| 20:59.14 | Obatztrara | :o |
| 21:00.52 | Dresnia | http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/3916/reactorj.jpg |
| 21:00.58 | Dresnia | http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=diq3vd9bmz49vf5&thumb=6 |
| 21:02.44 | Dresnia | Those are 2 arena's |
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| 21:20.54 | Mexa | Hey! |
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| 21:23.13 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 21:23.15 | kezaron | damn catalogs |
| 21:25.15 | Mexa | alpha_vst? |
| 21:26.19 | Mexa | JademusSreg, I have you now |
| 21:26.28 | Mexa | Mr. Owenalacaster |
| 21:26.34 | Mexa | lol |
| 21:27.20 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 21:27.34 | Mexa | I found you on THW |
| 21:27.36 | Mexa | :) |
| 21:27.46 | Mexa | I also found your map on dailymotion |
| 21:27.49 | Mexa | *a video |
| 21:28.24 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 21:28.24 | JademusSreg | My connection is terrible to day. |
| 21:28.33 | Mexa | :p |
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| 21:28.53 | Bounty | Hay Guyz |
| 21:29.03 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 21:29.03 | Mexa | Bounty! |
| 21:29.05 | JademusSreg | I only posted my video to youtube. |
| 21:29.10 | Bounty | Jademus |
| 21:29.13 | Bounty | I fixed the comet :) |
| 21:29.19 | Mexa | Bounty, nou ignore :| |
| 21:29.23 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 21:29.33 | Bounty | i turned it into a Super Nova that comes straight down and crashes into the planet |
| 21:29.39 | Bounty | lolol |
| 21:29.41 | Bounty | Hi Mexa |
| 21:30.12 | JademusSreg | I don't think you appreciate what a super nova is, but that is good news about fixing the effect. |
| 21:30.13 | Mexa | Bounty, @ your wasd, would it not be unreliable? Say the delay of an ability is smaller than the delay of releasepresses, wouldn't that potentially mess up the entire system? |
| 21:30.13 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 21:30.14 | Mexa | Also |
| 21:30.28 | Mexa | Would it not trigger for the ability all the times? |
| 21:30.32 | Mexa | As you hold it down |
| 21:30.44 | Bounty | it uses booleans |
| 21:30.51 | Mexa | So what |
| 21:30.52 | Bounty | when the boolean is true |
| 21:30.54 | Bounty | you move |
| 21:30.57 | Bounty | forever |
| 21:30.58 | Mexa | Yes |
| 21:30.59 | Bounty | until its set to false |
| 21:31.07 | Bounty | which is done by letting go of the key |
| 21:31.12 | Bounty | and wtf JademusSreg |
| 21:31.15 | Mexa | Point being, if you hold the ability, it is set to true each second |
| 21:31.18 | Bounty | i dont appreciate what a super nova is? lol |
| 21:31.23 | Bounty | i know what it is >< |
| 21:31.28 | AlphA_VsT | what mexa? |
| 21:31.33 | Bounty | and trust me i would love to make it a REAL super nova |
| 21:31.36 | Bounty | but that would be so imba |
| 21:31.42 | Mexa | Alpha, did you figure out your dialogs? |
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| 21:31.54 | AlphA_VsT | i didnt have an issue that was someone else 0.o |
| 21:31.58 | Mexa | Bounty, also, I'd love to see your system <.< |
| 21:32.01 | Bounty | Mexa |
| 21:32.02 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:32.05 | Bounty | i was about to say that |
| 21:32.07 | Bounty | ill pastebin it |
| 21:32.10 | Bounty | its really simple lol |
| 21:32.16 | Mexa | :> |
| 21:32.42 | Mexa | Alpha_vst, really? but what about that menu and spect ratio, resolution thingy thongy? |
| 21:32.55 | Bounty | http://pastebin.com/sZaBf6ji |
| 21:33.21 | Bounty | http://pastebin.com/qRJnqsWP |
| 21:33.40 | Bounty | http://pastebin.com/z431HaPD |
| 21:34.04 | Bounty | http://pastebin.com/HcQ6LCUZ |
| 21:34.06 | Bounty | there ya go |
| 21:34.23 | Bounty | best wasd u can get until something is done on Blizzards end lol |
| 21:34.42 | Mexa | .__ |
| 21:34.45 | AlphA_VsT | oh yeah mexa i gave up on it lol |
| 21:34.55 | Mexa | I don't like all those if else |
| 21:35.05 | Mexa | Are they really necessary? |
| 21:35.09 | Bounty | um |
| 21:35.10 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:35.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:35.18 | Bounty | its 8 way movement |
| 21:35.34 | Bounty | it has to detect which booleans are true and what combinations are used |
| 21:35.35 | AlphA_VsT | kinda messy |
| 21:35.39 | Mexa | Your system would be better with an axis system |
| 21:35.49 | Bounty | how about this |
| 21:36.00 | Bounty | i showed u the system, ur welcome? :) |
| 21:36.04 | Bounty | do what u want with it |
| 21:36.11 | Mexa | yesyes, thank you :) |
| 21:36.25 | Bounty | i mean at its core |
| 21:36.30 | Mexa | How are the abilities? As simple as possible? |
| 21:36.32 | Bounty | the only thing special about it is that i dont use key presses |
| 21:36.37 | Bounty | effect instants |
| 21:36.47 | Bounty | mapped to hidden buttons on the command card |
| 21:36.51 | Mexa | Hmm btw |
| 21:36.54 | Bounty | just set the hotkey to what it is |
| 21:36.58 | Bounty | W for ability W |
| 21:36.59 | Bounty | etc |
| 21:37.01 | Mexa | Aren't abilities triggered on release by default? |
| 21:37.06 | Bounty | no |
| 21:37.09 | AlphA_VsT | no |
| 21:37.20 | Mexa | hm.. wonder where I got that from then |
| 21:37.53 | Mexa | Well Alpha, I know how you would solve it, I guess |
| 21:38.19 | Bounty | btw, whats so messy about it |
| 21:38.24 | Bounty | i think its really organized |
| 21:38.35 | Mexa | Or rather, adapt your menu to be aligned centered, and have the dialogs set to fit the lowest resolution |
| 21:38.43 | Mexa | eg 640x480 |
| 21:38.43 | AlphA_VsT | how i would solve what? lol |
| 21:38.58 | Mexa | Oh well, maybe nvm |
| 21:38.59 | Mexa | :> |
| 21:39.06 | AlphA_VsT | yeah i know |
| 21:39.08 | Mexa | Bounty, it's so much code |
| 21:39.11 | AlphA_VsT | i could im just blah |
| 21:39.14 | AlphA_VsT | about it |
| 21:39.16 | Mexa | Which could be optimised |
| 21:39.23 | Bounty | how |
| 21:39.36 | Bounty | u have a thread that sets the direction points |
| 21:39.40 | Mexa | By mapping the keys to a "axis" for instance |
| 21:39.40 | AlphA_VsT | my fps movement was abilty based |
| 21:39.41 | Bounty | and a thread that handles the booleans |
| 21:39.54 | Mexa | And then you just get the axis value |
| 21:40.07 | Mexa | Say you have left and right, and a horizontal axis |
| 21:40.13 | Bounty | i dont even know what that is but there is no way u can get more responsive then this |
| 21:40.19 | Mexa | meh |
| 21:40.20 | Bounty | anymore responsive then this and thats instant lol |
| 21:40.26 | Mexa | Not talking about responsiveness xD |
| 21:40.34 | Bounty | yeah but thats all that matters imo |
| 21:40.38 | Mexa | Talking about making less code |
| 21:40.39 | Mexa | :P |
| 21:40.46 | Mexa | I guess nvm |
| 21:41.00 | Bounty | unless it increases the speed then its pointless >< |
| 21:41.11 | Bounty | i THOUGHT it was going to be lagless |
| 21:41.20 | Bounty | but i forgot that even ability hotkeys have a delay |
| 21:41.32 | Bounty | alot less then keypress events though, ill tell u that much |
| 21:41.36 | Bounty | which makes no sense |
| 21:41.41 | Bounty | because, isnt that the same thing? lol |
| 21:42.04 | Bounty | a keypress and a hotkey |
| 21:42.35 | JademusSreg | Key press event is being handled through the galaxy vm. |
| 21:42.47 | Bounty | i dont know what that means but |
| 21:42.58 | Bounty | shouldnt keypress events be handled the same way as ability hotkeys |
| 21:43.00 | Helral|Afk | Bounty: a keypress event is a catch "server-side" which causes the info to be sent to all players, while a hotkey is a catch "client-side" which causes the result to be send to all players. |
| 21:43.02 | JademusSreg | While a hotkey is working directly with the engine. |
| 21:43.13 | Mexa | I could imagine that abilities would be the ultimate choice, considering it is also adapted for melee games. |
| 21:43.23 | Bounty | ok then how come keypress events are not client side |
| 21:43.29 | Bounty | makes no sense |
| 21:43.32 | JademusSreg | Helral's explanation is even better. =D |
| 21:43.46 | Bounty | i mean |
| 21:43.49 | Bounty | literally all i did |
| 21:43.50 | Helral|Afk | Bounty: because the handler for keypress events is synchronised, while hotkeys are async. |
| 21:43.57 | Bounty | was take my wasd system and swap out keypress with dummy abilities |
| 21:44.02 | Bounty | and i gained a huge performance boost |
| 21:44.05 | Bounty | which is stupid |
| 21:44.18 | Bounty | keypress should be just as responsive |
| 21:44.24 | Helral|Afk | so all the computers need to handle all players keypress events, while they only need to handle the current players hotkey events. |
| 21:44.35 | JademusSreg | Bounty, to appreciate the disparity, you'd need to understand the technical aspects. |
| 21:44.49 | Bounty | not really |
| 21:44.57 | Bounty | i see no real reason why they didnt make keypress events clientside |
| 21:45.02 | Bounty | and i have no idea waht im talking about |
| 21:45.03 | Mexa | I would rather ask, helral, jademus, why keypress events would be slower than ability events |
| 21:45.04 | Bounty | but i know that much |
| 21:45.37 | JademusSreg | Not understanding is not knowledge, to parse your grammar there. |
| 21:45.40 | Helral|Afk | Bounty: because it's a trigger, and triggers don't affect a single player but all players. |
| 21:45.58 | Bounty | yeah but my wasd is still a trigger |
| 21:46.05 | Bounty | the only differance is that its ability events |
| 21:46.07 | Bounty | not and keypress |
| 21:46.11 | Bounty | yet the differance is huge |
| 21:46.17 | Mexa | what I asked too |
| 21:46.24 | Helral|Afk | Bounty: yup, you skip the synchronizing action for the keypress which is the major difference. |
| 21:46.47 | grim001 | so there was a way to do faster WASD after all? |
| 21:46.52 | Bounty | yep |
| 21:46.54 | Helral|Afk | basicly the data send to the other players is 12 bytes, instead of 1.2kbyte (so to speak) |
| 21:46.58 | Bounty | and go figure i made it lol |
| 21:47.02 | Bounty | call me |
| 21:47.10 | Bounty | Mister Third Person Shoot First Person WASD Guy |
| 21:47.12 | Bounty | that my new name |
| 21:47.13 | grim001 | well that bodes well for WASD based maps |
| 21:47.28 | Helral|Afk | Bounty: does it handle key releases correctly? ;p |
| 21:47.37 | JademusSreg | Programmer, iirc, discovered this a while ago though. |
| 21:47.39 | Bounty | i still use keypress up event |
| 21:47.39 | Mexa | Bounty, I will spread your knowledge like a tree spreading sprouts |
| 21:47.43 | Mexa | Is that good? |
| 21:47.56 | Bounty | i would def like to see more wasd maps |
| 21:48.00 | Helral|Afk | so basicly it still has a delay to stop moving. |
| 21:48.00 | Bounty | ive been saying this shit for how long? |
| 21:48.01 | JademusSreg | Was it programmer or vjeux? |
| 21:48.12 | JademusSreg | I forget. |
| 21:48.13 | Bounty | not really Helral |
| 21:48.15 | Helral|Afk | progammer ;p |
| 21:48.17 | Bounty | the very first thing it checks for |
| 21:48.20 | Bounty | is to stop |
| 21:48.21 | Mexa | JademusSreg, programmer made a wasd input system with abilities before |
| 21:48.32 | Bounty | Helral, are you US or EU? i can show u |
| 21:48.35 | Helral|Afk | eu |
| 21:48.38 | Bounty | sob |
| 21:48.43 | Mexa | But afaIk, someone tested it and compared it with wasd triggers |
| 21:48.52 | Mexa | And the effect was the same |
| 21:48.54 | Helral|Afk | I know about wasd (trigger and data) |
| 21:49.03 | Mexa | Which I don't get now |
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| 21:49.13 | Bounty | btw |
| 21:49.15 | Bounty | whats faster |
| 21:49.17 | Dresnia | GUYS ! |
| 21:49.19 | Bounty | Pick Each Player |
| 21:49.23 | Bounty | or Pick Each Integer |
| 21:49.43 | Dresnia | I use a Terrain Object, a 'decent' one to make a circle cliff thingy |
| 21:49.43 | Mexa | using a while loop with local integers are much faster |
| 21:49.49 | Dresnia | It looks cool etc, I add doodads |
| 21:49.52 | Mexa | So don't use any |
| 21:49.55 | JademusSreg | Pick Each Player uses abominable PlayerGroupLoop natives. |
| 21:49.56 | Dresnia | I reload the map and its a black square |
| 21:50.02 | JademusSreg | No one should ever use it. |
| 21:50.16 | Bounty | ok so |
| 21:50.17 | Bounty | Mexa |
| 21:50.24 | Mexa | Pick each integer uses abominable IntLoop natives too:p |
| 21:50.24 | Bounty | bc i use pick each player to check the movement booleans |
| 21:50.26 | JademusSreg | Dresnia, that's neat. |
| 21:50.28 | Bounty | so i should just do it manually? |
| 21:50.30 | Bounty | like |
| 21:50.40 | Mexa | while (i < player max) |
| 21:50.41 | Bounty | While Loop > Movement 1 Movement 2 etc |
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| 21:51.07 | Dresnia | Do some Terrain Objects tend too bug out ? |
| 21:51.07 | Mexa | uh kind of |
| 21:51.26 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/wFm9yD3U |
| 21:51.42 | Bounty | YOU N YER CODEZ |
| 21:52.07 | JademusSreg | If we had function pointers, callbacks, that would maker for a nice multipurpose function. |
| 21:52.28 | Mexa | you mean for all kinds of groups huh? |
| 21:52.58 | JademusSreg | I mean, Do Something could be replaced with a call to the function passed as a parameter. |
| 21:53.13 | Mexa | oh |
| 21:53.14 | Mexa | yeah |
| 21:53.34 | Helral|Afk | I'm off cya lot later |
| 21:54.02 | Dresnia | And this Terrain Object can't be deleted properly either. |
| 21:54.04 | Dresnia | Pffft. |
| 21:54.50 | Mexa | bye Helral |
| 21:55.05 | JademusSreg | And if we could pass structs, or had classes and could pass those, the function could have another parameter for the parameters needed to passed to the function. |
| 21:55.16 | Mexa | Bounty, Ability effect Instant you said? |
| 21:55.22 | Bounty | yeah |
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| 21:55.26 | Bounty | just dont have it do anything |
| 21:55.32 | Bounty | and have the event be |
| 21:55.33 | Mexa | Great |
| 21:55.41 | Mexa | I just copy the Default ability then |
| 21:55.42 | Bounty | Ability used @phase w/e |
| 21:55.52 | Bounty | when you make the button |
| 21:55.59 | Bounty | make the hotkey to whatever key it is and give it no icon |
| 21:56.02 | Bounty | itll be 100% hidden |
| 21:56.04 | Mexa | Bounty, how do you hide them? |
| 21:56.10 | Bounty | also, delete the sound for when u press a button |
| 21:56.10 | Mexa | oh |
| 21:56.16 | Bounty | so they dont know they are pressing a button |
| 21:56.23 | Mexa | But the unit must still be selected, mustn't it? |
| 21:56.28 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:56.37 | Bounty | worth the tradeoff imo |
| 21:56.38 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:56.54 | Bounty | i personally have no choice considering u aim with wasd in my map |
| 21:56.57 | Mexa | Jademus, I guess the way would be to set all struct instances in an array and do it like vJass |
| 21:56.59 | Bounty | so its def worth it to me |
| 21:57.06 | kezaron | anyone wanna help me with catalog get values :( |
| 21:57.09 | Mexa | which is tiresome to do manually |
| 21:57.10 | JademusSreg | Bleh. |
| 21:57.18 | JademusSreg | Kez, sure. |
| 21:57.24 | kezaron | YAY! |
| 21:57.25 | JademusSreg | Show me what you're doing. |
| 21:57.43 | kezaron | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/21382-dialog-button-like-command-card/ |
| 21:57.59 | kezaron | I cant figure out FuzzyDs "help" :( |
| 21:58.53 | JademusSreg | Oh, I thought you had something I could debug for you, since I see certain catalog problems commonly. |
| 21:58.58 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I can help. |
| 21:59.17 | kezaron | I just dont get the whole thing in general |
| 21:59.24 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 21:59.32 | JademusSreg | I'll be leaving soon. |
| 22:00.02 | Bounty | go to my stream real fast JademusSreg |
| 22:00.04 | Bounty | wanna show u something |
| 22:00.10 | JademusSreg | Are using galaxy or GUI? |
| 22:00.11 | Bounty | www.livestream.com/bounty_98 |
| 22:00.22 | Dresnia | So our 'Terrain Object' > Purifier Mark becomes a 'Trench' after reloading the map |
| 22:00.25 | Dresnia | Why is this happening ? |
| 22:00.41 | JademusSreg | Kez. |
| 22:00.49 | kezaron | GUI |
| 22:00.57 | JademusSreg | Dres, terrain objects are buggy. |
| 22:00.59 | kezaron | but i understand galaxy |
| 22:01.04 | Dresnia | Yeah, seems so. |
| 22:01.17 | JademusSreg | I once saw someone have 100 + entries of the same terrain objects in one spot. |
| 22:01.28 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 22:01.34 | Bounty | u in the stream JademusSreg? |
| 22:01.37 | Bounty | let me know when |
| 22:01.59 | JademusSreg | CatalogFieldValueGet (int catalog, string entry, string fieldPath, int player); |
| 22:02.05 | JademusSreg | Yes, quickly. |
| 22:02.33 | JademusSreg | Catalog is the name of the catalog, pretty straight forweard, it's the type of object. |
| 22:02.49 | JademusSreg | entry is the name of the object. |
| 22:03.11 | JademusSreg | fieldPath gets a pit tricky, since the editor cannot always be trusted to show you the correct field name. |
| 22:03.22 | Bounty | did you see it JademusSreg? on the stream |
| 22:03.32 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 22:03.49 | JademusSreg | Understand that kez? |
| 22:04.24 | JademusSreg | The field name for a unit's acceleration isn't CUnit_, but the latter part. |
| 22:04.27 | JademusSreg | Acceleration |
| 22:04.37 | JademusSreg | Anyway, going to the park with my girls. bbl |
| 22:04.48 | kezaron | So... I want Catalog Value Get (ability, ability[X], tooltip path) |
| 22:05.05 | kezaron | ability[X] is a game link array |
| 22:05.26 | Bounty | damn JademusSreg, you suck at feedback |
| 22:05.28 | Bounty | "GREAT!" |
| 22:05.31 | Bounty | lolol |
| 22:05.40 | Dresnia | JademusSreg, do Terrain Objects always tend too bug out |
| 22:05.42 | Dresnia | Or just a few ? |
| 22:05.53 | Dresnia | The ones I used before are doing fine so far ;> |
| 22:05.53 | kezaron | eeer no that has to be a string... game link to stream: string(ability[x]) |
| 22:06.07 | kezaron | *game lintk to STRING |
| 22:07.54 | kezaron | oh crap |
| 22:08.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Chrono^ (~Chrono@c83-255-34-211.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 22:08.05 | kezaron | the tooltip is linked to the imdage isnt it |
| 22:08.11 | kezaron | grrr thats harder |
| 22:11.31 | kezaron | GAH |
| 22:11.39 | kezaron | Im just gonna set everything manualy |
| 22:13.42 | Bounty | how the hell do you remove old videos from your livestream channel |
| 22:15.27 | kezaron | justion.TV FTW! |
| 22:25.19 | Mexa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OheiLvAIouQ pokemon musical :V? |
| 22:25.35 | Stewox | purl say something |
| 22:25.35 | purl | something |
| 22:33.40 | Mexa | purl do something |
| 22:33.40 | purl | ACTION does something. |
| 22:40.07 | Nash|327 | purl smells |
| 22:40.07 | purl | Oh, that must be ibot's ass again. |
| 22:53.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster Griffin_ (4cad2e14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.173.46.20) |
| 22:53.55 | Griffin_ | hello |
| 22:54.13 | Griffin_ | I need some more unit collision size help >.> |
| 22:58.02 | Nash|327 | whaa |
| 22:58.26 | Nash|327 | radius? |
| 22:59.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster tigger0jk (tigger0jk@dynamic2-245-006.usc.edu) |
| 23:02.07 | Dresnia | purl who am I |
| 23:02.07 | purl | dresnia shut up, you are a nobody |
| 23:02.08 | Dresnia | purl you suck |
| 23:02.08 | purl | and very well I might add |
| 23:02.08 | Dresnia | :( |
| 23:02.26 | Dresnia | who's making him say that |
| 23:02.32 | Dresnia | get out of your hiding spot now |
| 23:03.00 | Dresnia | purl what time is it |
| 23:03.01 | purl | Dresnia: what are you talking about? |
| 23:03.14 | Dresnia | purl go cry in a corner |
| 23:17.23 | Nash|327 | wtf MSN |
| 23:18.01 | *** join/#sc2mapster Skizot (~skizot@pool-71-180-51-125.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 23:20.35 | Dresnia | :O |
| 23:22.09 | Nash|327 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFSwNS_GWM8 youtubez |
| 23:22.14 | Nash|327 | too bad my mic sucks |
| 23:23.21 | Dresnia | noisy mic ftw |
| 23:24.08 | Dresnia | Your movie editing skills are awesome |
| 23:24.25 | Dresnia | so your msn died on you ? |
| 23:25.32 | Dresnia | Yeah ok no offense I love working with you but the video is my part |
| 23:25.34 | Dresnia | :P |
| 23:25.54 | Dresnia | You just make sure I don't send out typo's to the interwebs lol |
| 23:26.00 | Nash|327 | how's your English? |
| 23:27.22 | Dresnia | Pritty ok but I wouldn't go for talking |
| 23:27.26 | Nash|327 | MSN is running |
| 23:27.27 | Dresnia | Just fancy effects / text |
| 23:27.28 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 23:27.43 | Nash|327 | Yeah you do that |
| 23:27.56 | Dresnia | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfDJI1cB5A4 |
| 23:27.59 | Dresnia | like that |
| 23:28.10 | Nash|327 | I can do voice stuff, my mic sucks but at least my English is good |
| 23:28.24 | Dresnia | Why the fuck aint we skyping then ? |
| 23:28.26 | Nash|327 | especially if I don't have a cold and have prepared a bit more :P |
| 23:28.41 | Dresnia | add me on skype 'dresniaa' |
| 23:28.43 | Dresnia | then you hear it ;P |
| 23:28.49 | Nash|327 | because 1) I don't have skype installed |
| 23:28.52 | Dresnia | it's the typical dutch english |
| 23:28.58 | Nash|327 | 2) it's 1:30 |
| 23:29.06 | Dresnia | same here on 1.30 |
| 23:29.07 | Dresnia | lol |
| 23:29.10 | Dresnia | can you listen ? |
| 23:29.17 | Nash|327 | sure |
| 23:29.18 | Dresnia | like you got a headset right |
| 23:29.19 | Nash|327 | headphones |
| 23:30.11 | Dresnia | error: 0x80ee000c |
| 23:30.14 | Dresnia | ;X |
| 23:30.20 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 23:30.36 | Nash|327 | also says you are offline though |
| 23:30.43 | Dresnia | wtf |
| 23:30.47 | Dresnia | fuck you bill gates |
| 23:44.46 | *** join/#sc2mapster kaseano (~kaseano@c-68-40-197-139.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 23:45.10 | kaseano | hi :) I've been trying to stay DRY, and a lot of my units have parent stats |
| 23:45.20 | kaseano | so I tried to set up a parent unit for similar values on all the units |
| 23:45.27 | kaseano | changing the parent doesn't seem to change the children tho |
| 23:46.24 | Dresnia | WHAT ? |
| 23:46.25 | Dresnia | :D |
| 23:47.00 | kaseano | ex: a bunch of my units all need the same sight radius |
| 23:47.11 | kaseano | instead of going through and changing each 1 individually, I'd like to use a parent |
| 23:47.17 | kaseano | and just change the parent when i want to change all of them |
| 23:47.26 | Dresnia | ah |
| 23:47.30 | kaseano | so I Thought I set that up by having them all use the same parent |
| 23:47.40 | kaseano | but i went to change the parent to test it out, and it didn't change the children :( |
| 23:47.44 | kaseano | and my heart broke a little bit. |
| 23:47.46 | Dresnia | I didn't know that option even excisted lol |
| 23:48.10 | kaseano | well it makes sense right |
| 23:48.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zoxc (Zoxc@ti0128a380-dhcp0395.bb.online.no) |
| 23:49.00 | kaseano | just wish there was a way to have the parent stats take priority over the child |
| 23:49.37 | Dresnia | you can ask some expierinced guy in here maybe |
| 23:49.45 | Dresnia | Let's highlight JademusSreg for you |
| 23:49.49 | kaseano | haha |
| 23:50.13 | kaseano | I haven't been in this room in 6 months, it used to b a lot more popular I'm bummed it died down |
| 23:50.19 | kaseano | mayb bc it's sunday/md |
| 23:51.39 | *** join/#sc2mapster FireryRage (~FireryRag@69.166.23.47) |
| 23:52.19 | Dresnia | Well |
| 23:52.20 | Dresnia | We usually got like 3-4 steady talking people |
| 23:52.21 | Dresnia | And around 10 active in total |
| 23:52.23 | Dresnia | on 'high times' |
| 23:52.37 | Dresnia | But it's 2am for us EU's |
| 23:52.44 | Dresnia | And most of us need to work on monday |
| 23:53.47 | Nash|327 | if you've changes a value in a child class changing the parent class won't help :G |
| 23:53.56 | kaseano | ohh got it |
| 23:54.04 | Nash|327 | you're already telling the game to override the parent entry |
| 23:54.09 | kaseano | Nash|327: I tried to set the children to default tho |
| 23:54.28 | kaseano | or at least the values that I want taken from the parent |
| 23:54.37 | kaseano | this is my first time trying it, just hoping it's possible |
| 23:54.59 | Nash|327 | I don't know if default = parent value |
| 23:55.25 | kaseano | Oh No way! there's a "Apply To Children" Option when you right click |
| 23:55.37 | Nash|327 | hax |
| 23:55.37 | kaseano | with a little hot key too |
| 23:55.40 | kaseano | right on :) |
| 23:55.44 | kaseano | thx Nash|327 |
| 23:56.00 | Nash|327 | hug kittuns |
| 23:56.30 | Dresnia | You just got lucky he found that Nash|327.. |
| 23:56.31 | Dresnia | >_> |
| 23:56.46 | Nash|327 | rather, he got lucky |
| 23:56.47 | kaseano | haha |
| 23:56.50 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 23:57.00 | kaseano | Either way, thanks for the support :) |
| 23:57.06 | kaseano | Dresnia: & Nash|327 |
| 23:57.09 | kaseano | just happy ppl are in here |
| 23:57.18 | Dresnia | I'm just the terrain guy |
| 23:57.20 | Dresnia | no credit for me |
| 23:57.24 | Nash|327 | I'm sure it's not all happy people |
| 23:57.45 | Nash|327 | some of them are probably not happy :G |
| 23:58.34 | kaseano | I love how artistic you can get w terrain now |
| 23:58.56 | Dresnia | How to remove people from friends on facebook ? |
| 23:59.02 | Dresnia | Some hot blonde added me I know |
| 23:59.09 | Dresnia | but all she does is nag about bloody horses |
| 23:59.14 | Dresnia | I can't stand it anymore |
| 23:59.14 | Nash|327 | people expect such fancy terrain now |
| 23:59.16 | Nash|327 | D: |
| 23:59.45 | Nash|327 | you could hide the person's posts? |
| 23:59.48 | kaseano | haha yeah it Did raise the bar |
| 23:59.58 | Dresnia | found it |
