| 00:03.40 | slightlyrandom | There is a percentage weight, yes |
| 00:04.16 | slightlyrandom | I'd assume it to be the fidget value on the unit |
| 00:04.26 | Triceron | where do I find that? |
| 00:04.41 | slightlyrandom | I'm guessing here, thought |
| 00:04.47 | Triceron | is that in the actor? |
| 00:04.51 | slightlyrandom | No, unit |
| 00:05.20 | slightlyrandom | There is stuff like fidget and turn and stuff |
| 00:05.27 | slightlyrandom | I seem to recall |
| 00:07.25 | Triceron | well turn speed I can see in movement |
| 00:07.44 | slightlyrandom | Naw |
| 00:08.11 | Triceron | oh fidget I see now |
| 00:08.13 | slightlyrandom | There's fields near the bottom, advanced turned on, with values like 33|33|33 |
| 00:08.19 | Triceron | under UI |
| 00:08.20 | Triceron | weird |
| 00:08.39 | slightlyrandom | That _should_ be percentages for actions |
| 00:08.50 | slightlyrandom | Experiment :P |
| 00:09.02 | Triceron | well thing is I have 2 idle animations |
| 00:09.27 | Triceron | and I don't see em being listed here or anything |
| 00:10.37 | slightlyrandom | Well, mess with the numbers, see if anything changes, eh? |
| 00:11.37 | Mexa | Hey, have any of you played Ignition? |
| 00:12.24 | Mexa | aka Bleifuss Fun |
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| 00:14.58 | Dryeyece | Whats up guys 8) |
| 00:15.03 | Mephs | what up killer |
| 00:15.36 | Dryeyece | same old |
| 00:16.06 | Dryeyece | gaining a whole new respect for people who cast games, and or announers or narrators of any kind lol |
| 00:16.28 | slightlyrandom | Talking for 30 minutes straight is a skill |
| 00:16.39 | Dryeyece | maybe but thats not the problem |
| 00:17.07 | Dryeyece | I been doing some voice acting, and its rather tedious |
| 00:17.13 | Dryeyece | if your not a pro audio editor |
| 00:17.43 | Dryeyece | and my voice is retarted it changed pitch a lot without me noticing while I am talking |
| 00:17.48 | Dryeyece | changes* |
| 00:18.05 | Mexa | being bored |
| 00:18.08 | Mexa | Thats what's up |
| 00:18.13 | Mephs | yeah casting is hard |
| 00:18.14 | Dryeyece | 8( |
| 00:18.17 | Mephs | you really have to be able to flow with it |
| 00:18.22 | Dryeyece | yeah |
| 00:18.30 | Dryeyece | its hard to just relax and be yourself at first |
| 00:18.32 | Mephs | i'm streaming some editor work right now, not the most interesting thing to cast but noobs can learn a lot :P |
| 00:18.38 | Mephs | http://www.livestream.com/mephssc |
| 00:18.46 | Mephs | gonna do some advanced data stuff in a bit |
| 00:18.49 | Dryeyece | takes a few casts that make you sound like a robotic dueche bag before you really loosen up |
| 00:19.03 | Mephs | and its in HD! |
| 00:19.24 | Dryeyece | omg...two days ago we had the same desktop image |
| 00:19.39 | Dryeyece | now mines the other big panoramic zeratul shot |
| 00:20.07 | Dryeyece | you make abilities with the trigger editor? |
| 00:20.24 | Mephs | no |
| 00:20.26 | Mephs | well some |
| 00:25.33 | Dryeyece | uggh I hate my internet connection |
| 00:25.54 | Mephs | its ok |
| 00:25.58 | Mephs | when you gonna get me in on a tofu test? :D |
| 00:26.14 | Dryeyece | we should be going into beta soon |
| 00:26.18 | Mephs | kk |
| 00:26.22 | JademusSreg | That was weird. I was disconnected from a game lobby. =\ |
| 00:26.23 | Dryeyece | the UI is just about done |
| 00:26.43 | Dryeyece | and I been using my new dps measuring tool to get the heroes a little more balanced |
| 00:27.01 | Dryeyece | noticed some serious deficiencies with some of their abilities energy costs being backwards from what I intended lol |
| 00:30.04 | Dryeyece | Just curious though, what constitutes advanced data editing? do you know how to work with movers like in depth or something? |
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| 00:43.29 | Lilianna | Ice cream Sandwhiches! |
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| 00:47.24 | SilverSeraphim | what is the best way to display a message to a certain player |
| 00:48.34 | AlphA_VsT | send message to player # |
| 00:49.53 | Mexa | bedtime |
| 00:49.57 | Mexa | seeya |
| 00:51.40 | AlphA_VsT | fucking maps piss me off |
| 00:53.59 | Lilianna | please keep your piss and fucking out of maps, this is a game rated for children! |
| 01:02.10 | AlphA_VsT | fine |
| 01:02.18 | AlphA_VsT | why you so mean :( |
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| 01:03.30 | slightlyrandom | Pissing and fucking is part of every day life, and should be treated as such |
| 01:03.45 | slightlyrandom | Stop trying to wrap children in wool |
| 01:04.49 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 01:06.52 | SilverSeraphim | thanks AlphA_VsT |
| 01:07.05 | AlphA_VsT | sure |
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| 01:13.36 | Ashamed | oh yeah my weekend almost starts |
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| 01:18.20 | AlphA_VsT | and i stoped workign on another map :P |
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| 01:23.25 | SilverSeraphim | AlphA_VsT: i can't find a "send message to player" function |
| 01:26.21 | Dryeyece | what kind of message? |
| 01:26.40 | SilverSeraphim | a "you dont have enough money to do that" message |
| 01:26.46 | SilverSeraphim | should only go to the triggering player |
| 01:26.52 | Dryeyece | action is send text message |
| 01:27.12 | SilverSeraphim | Display text message? |
| 01:27.22 | Dryeyece | with it you can send a text based message to anyone based off a player |
| 01:27.29 | Dryeyece | yeah |
| 01:27.42 | Dryeyece | type text message in the search box for functions |
| 01:27.46 | Dryeyece | is what I do to get to it |
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| 01:55.53 | AlphA_VsT | textmessage lol |
| 01:56.08 | AlphA_VsT | sorry i was playing a melee match |
| 01:56.13 | AlphA_VsT | im silver now weee |
| 01:56.45 | Triceron | grats |
| 01:56.57 | AlphA_VsT | lol i have not played in like 2 week :P |
| 01:57.11 | AlphA_VsT | guy was such a noob though |
| 01:57.22 | AlphA_VsT | he had like 3 bases as zerg :P |
| 01:57.22 | Mephs | streaming some advanced data editor work for a bit, creating hero abilities http://www.livestream.com/mephssc |
| 01:57.29 | AlphA_VsT | i had liek 6 at the end |
| 01:57.32 | Ashamed | can start the weekend with no work perfect |
| 01:57.36 | Ashamed | finished all of my work tonight |
| 01:58.24 | AlphA_VsT | yay |
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| 01:58.37 | AlphA_VsT | someone give me a simple map idea that i wont over do 0.o |
| 01:58.39 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 01:58.50 | AlphA_VsT | but thats impossible |
| 01:59.53 | SilverSeraphim | wow custom textures are so confusing |
| 02:02.08 | SilverSeraphim | i can't even find the Assets folder in the import window |
| 02:02.23 | Triceron | O_o |
| 02:07.18 | JademusSreg | Anyone for Photon Cycles? =D |
| 02:09.35 | SilverSeraphim | JademusSreg: do you know anything about importing textures? |
| 02:10.09 | Triceron | what you do is in import manager |
| 02:10.25 | Triceron | just right click -> import files |
| 02:11.10 | Triceron | what I usually do is have it pointed in my mod folder, and have all my images set there as well. It should load up anything under that directory |
| 02:14.40 | SilverSeraphim | right i got them imported |
| 02:14.52 | SilverSeraphim | i created new Texture datas |
| 02:15.04 | SilverSeraphim | but how do i make the dup'd models reference the new textures? |
| 02:15.12 | SilverSeraphim | is it in the texture declarations? |
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| 02:17.04 | Triceron | ohhh |
| 02:17.14 | Triceron | you want an existing model to use your new textures... |
| 02:17.20 | Triceron | that's all dictated in the models themselves |
| 02:17.45 | Triceron | you'd either have to replace the texture by naming it the same thing as what the unit uses |
| 02:17.58 | Triceron | or edit the model through a 3d app |
| 02:18.17 | Triceron | I don't really know if there's an alternative beyond that |
| 02:19.13 | FockeWulf | when does sc2 map night begin? |
| 02:19.26 | AlphA_VsT | wow |
| 02:19.34 | FockeWulf | as in the time... |
| 02:20.00 | AlphA_VsT | SilverSeraphim: they need to have the same filename and the same path |
| 02:20.09 | AlphA_VsT | assets/textures |
| 02:20.16 | AlphA_VsT | generally |
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| 02:22.38 | SilverSeraphim | so when i import the file, how do i get it to be in assets/textures? |
| 02:22.45 | SilverSeraphim | i don't see those folders in the import window |
| 02:23.06 | Triceron | you create assets/textures in your mod folder |
| 02:23.13 | Triceron | and stick your pictures in there |
| 02:23.37 | Triceron | c:/programfiles/starcraft 2/mod/Assets/Textures/Yourfile.dds |
| 02:23.53 | SilverSeraphim | OH |
| 02:23.55 | Triceron | and set your browse directory to that as well |
| 02:23.57 | SilverSeraphim | i need to make a mod??? |
| 02:24.01 | Triceron | though it should be default |
| 02:24.10 | SilverSeraphim | i can't just import it only into my map |
| 02:24.13 | Triceron | well |
| 02:24.19 | Triceron | you can browse directory then |
| 02:24.45 | Triceron | import file -> Browse Directory -> change it to where your image is |
| 02:25.05 | Triceron | though it's much more organized if you work within a designated directory |
| 02:27.35 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 02:30.41 | AlphA_VsT | you can |
| 02:30.56 | AlphA_VsT | you can even move the file |
| 02:30.58 | Triceron | hey Ekco |
| 02:31.00 | AlphA_VsT | or when you import |
| 02:31.06 | AlphA_VsT | at the top |
| 02:31.09 | AlphA_VsT | it has the path info |
| 02:31.44 | AlphA_VsT | default is just the main directory |
| 02:31.53 | ekcolnovkol | peanut butter jelly time |
| 02:33.07 | AlphA_VsT | oh yeah |
| 02:34.38 | AlphA_VsT | im going to make the most stupidest map ever |
| 02:34.38 | AlphA_VsT | thats it |
| 02:34.41 | Triceron | paper zombies? |
| 02:34.46 | AlphA_VsT | QQ :( |
| 02:34.50 | Triceron | lol |
| 02:34.51 | Triceron | soz |
| 02:34.52 | AlphA_VsT | dont hate |
| 02:35.39 | Triceron | alright who wants to test my new model before I release it public |
| 02:36.23 | AlphA_VsT | what model? |
| 02:36.29 | Triceron | war3 footman |
| 02:36.36 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 02:36.39 | Triceron | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/artist-tavern/21115-model-showcase-warcraft-footman/#p13 |
| 02:37.01 | Triceron | just threw on the finishing touches, got all the animation bugs fixed up |
| 02:37.11 | Triceron | and gave it team color |
| 02:37.23 | ekcolnovkol | oh right you were the 3d guy |
| 02:37.23 | Triceron | i could use a second set of eyes to check for any bugs tho |
| 02:37.28 | ekcolnovkol | i almost forgot that |
| 02:37.32 | Triceron | yar |
| 02:37.32 | ekcolnovkol | slaps himself |
| 02:37.38 | ekcolnovkol | hey can you make me some hats |
| 02:37.45 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 02:37.47 | Triceron | maybe |
| 02:37.49 | ekcolnovkol | :3 |
| 02:37.54 | Triceron | what kind of hats |
| 02:37.59 | ekcolnovkol | pm |
| 02:49.50 | SilverSeraphim | AlphA_VsT: so i made a folder on my desktop called "Assets" inside that i made one called "Textures" |
| 02:50.22 | SilverSeraphim | do i put folders in there? or just the DDS files directly in that "textures" folder i made |
| 02:50.24 | SilverSeraphim | ? |
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| 02:55.25 | SilverSeraphim | oh you can move them right in the import window |
| 02:56.51 | SilverSeraphim | do i need to name my diffuse files a certain way for them to work? |
| 02:57.40 | Triceron | depends what you're doing with em |
| 02:57.50 | Triceron | if you're just importing em as pictures, probably not |
| 03:00.13 | SilverSeraphim | i need to use them as textures |
| 03:00.36 | SilverSeraphim | i'm wondering if i need to duplicate the actual model file |
| 03:00.38 | SilverSeraphim | the .m3 |
| 03:00.57 | SilverSeraphim | maybe it would be better to use actor events or triggers to change the texture... |
| 03:01.23 | SilverSeraphim | is the texture based on the model OBJECT or the .m3 model FILE? |
| 03:01.31 | SilverSeraphim | for the texture reference i mean |
| 03:01.47 | SilverSeraphim | it has to be the object right? |
| 03:04.31 | Triceron | it's dictated IN the .m3 |
| 03:04.42 | SixTwo | how can I stop a persistent effect ? I'be duplicated the disruption beam that the sentry uses, but once my tower kills something the beam stays on screen. |
| 03:04.43 | Triceron | like, as in you can only change it by changing the .m3 |
| 03:05.11 | Triceron | etiher that or you name your file specifcally the name of the texture it should have been using |
| 03:05.36 | Triceron | like marine_diffuse.dds |
| 03:05.45 | Triceron | and I think that will override it as long as it's in the right path |
| 03:07.07 | Triceron | you'd have to have the texture point to something like starcraft/mods/liberty.sc2/Assets/textures/marine_diffuse.dds |
| 03:09.39 | SilverSeraphim | ok i'm trying to have the normal zerg egg still be green |
| 03:09.44 | SilverSeraphim | but i want a blue, purple, and red version |
| 03:09.52 | SilverSeraphim | i have blue purple and red icons and textures |
| 03:10.01 | Triceron | gl then |
| 03:10.03 | Triceron | haha |
| 03:10.06 | SilverSeraphim | do i need to export and rename the .m3? |
| 03:10.26 | Triceron | you'd have to re-export it with a different texture path |
| 03:10.34 | Triceron | or some how edit the .m3's path |
| 03:11.30 | Triceron | I don't know if there's a way to do that in the editor either |
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| 03:25.47 | SilverSeraphim | wow |
| 03:26.20 | SilverSeraphim | i don't understand why i can't just import my texture, make a new texture object, and use an actor event to set that texture to be the one used by the actor |
| 03:26.28 | SilverSeraphim | [4/29/2011 11:16:15 PM] Warning: Unable to load image from 'Assets\Textures\EggRed.dds' (Core: a required object could not be found) |
| 03:26.28 | SilverSeraphim | [4/29/2011 11:21:18 PM] Warning: Egg Assets\Units\Zerg\Egg\Egg_00.m3; Could not find texture with id EggRed and expression 1. |
| 03:26.28 | SilverSeraphim | [4/29/2011 11:21:18 PM] Warning: Egg Assets\Units\Zerg\Egg\Egg_01.m3; Could not find texture with id EggRed and expression 1. |
| 03:26.31 | SilverSeraphim | instead i get that |
| 03:31.55 | SilverSeraphim | how do models indicate if they have variations? where is that marked? |
| 03:32.30 | Triceron | I don't know enough about actors to know if they can do that |
| 03:32.49 | Triceron | but I'm pretty sure you can't, or else we would have seen more recolored marines online. |
| 03:33.05 | Triceron | the best you can do is prolly tint em |
| 03:33.52 | SilverSeraphim | i'm slowly figuring it out |
| 03:34.20 | SilverSeraphim | now i just have to figure out where this egg has itself automated to have multiple "expressions" which allow a multiple model to have multiple textures... |
| 03:34.26 | SilverSeraphim | i disable the variations |
| 03:34.31 | SilverSeraphim | it's a field in the model object |
| 03:37.41 | Triceron | so a model can have multiple textures? |
| 03:37.45 | Triceron | dictated through the actor? |
| 03:37.53 | SilverSeraphim | not through the actor |
| 03:38.09 | SilverSeraphim | models can have multiple model variations |
| 03:38.16 | SilverSeraphim | and each of those variations can each have a different texture |
| 03:38.24 | Triceron | hmm |
| 03:39.07 | SilverSeraphim | i'm just getting 1 error now |
| 03:39.08 | SilverSeraphim | [4/29/2011 11:38:37 PM] Warning: EggRed Assets\Units\Zerg\Egg\Egg_00.m3; Could not find texture with id EggRed and expression 1. |
| 03:39.17 | SilverSeraphim | i disabled Egg.m3 |
| 03:39.26 | SilverSeraphim | and am just using the first variation directly |
| 03:39.36 | SilverSeraphim | Egg_00.m3 |
| 03:40.38 | JademusSreg | Fun times. |
| 03:41.35 | SilverSeraphim | wait! |
| 03:41.37 | SilverSeraphim | i found it |
| 03:41.44 | SilverSeraphim | in the texture |
| 03:41.48 | SilverSeraphim | add properties |
| 03:41.53 | SilverSeraphim | choose Variation 00 |
| 03:42.05 | SilverSeraphim | the error is gone |
| 03:43.23 | Triceron | very nice :) |
| 03:43.25 | Triceron | so it works now? |
| 03:43.52 | SilverSeraphim | almost it hink... |
| 03:43.58 | SilverSeraphim | trying to setup the variations correctly now |
| 03:44.02 | JademusSreg | Played Photon Cycles for a few hours. =D |
| 03:44.42 | JademusSreg | Time to back to work; I've got ui textures to finish. |
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| 03:47.17 | Dogmai | ~seen helral |
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| 03:47.34 | AlphA_VsT | silver did you get it |
| 03:47.35 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 03:48.39 | AlphA_VsT | silver you can edit the team color to be the color of the egg lol |
| 03:54.36 | SilverSeraphim | AlphA_VsT: no, no matter what i do it keeps searching for a variation for the texture |
| 03:54.47 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 03:54.51 | SilverSeraphim | i tried creating multiple textures and setting them to Variation 00, Variation 01 etc |
| 03:54.54 | SilverSeraphim | but it doesn't like that |
| 03:55.13 | SilverSeraphim | [4/29/2011 11:54:49 PM] Warning: EggRed Assets\Units\Zerg\Egg\Egg_01.m3; Could not find texture with id EggRed and expression 1. |
| 03:55.16 | AlphA_VsT | it needs to be in the model |
| 03:55.43 | AlphA_VsT | just make the team color be the color you want |
| 03:55.51 | AlphA_VsT | simple easy solution |
| 03:55.52 | SilverSeraphim | in the actor events i told it specifically to use the texture i created |
| 03:56.24 | AlphA_VsT | ive never messed with that |
| 03:56.44 | AlphA_VsT | trust me though the easy solution is make it the team color |
| 03:57.01 | AlphA_VsT | you can change the team color per unit also |
| 03:57.02 | AlphA_VsT | so |
| 03:57.10 | Mephs | streaming some advanced data editor work for a bit, creating hero abilities http://www.livestream.com/mephssc |
| 03:57.32 | SilverSeraphim | yeah... |
| 03:57.40 | SilverSeraphim | i just would like to use these textures since someone made them for me |
| 03:58.14 | AlphA_VsT | cheese with your whine |
| 03:58.20 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 03:58.21 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 04:03.34 | AlphA_VsT | HAHA |
| 04:03.38 | AlphA_VsT | OK GOT IT |
| 04:04.06 | AlphA_VsT | New map again |
| 04:04.15 | AlphA_VsT | always need to start the week fresh |
| 04:04.25 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 04:05.59 | SilverSeraphim | annnd crash |
| 04:06.03 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 04:06.18 | SilverSeraphim | guess we won't be doing any custom textures tonight =p |
| 04:07.07 | Triceron | trying to upload an asset onto sc2mapster |
| 04:07.16 | Triceron | so it has to be approved first before I can upload anything?? |
| 04:09.46 | AlphA_VsT | no |
| 04:09.51 | AlphA_VsT | well idono |
| 04:09.52 | AlphA_VsT | haha |
| 04:10.01 | AlphA_VsT | you can upload maps before they are approved |
| 04:11.17 | Triceron | ah okay |
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| 04:57.55 | baagel | does "Pause the action queue" affect only the trigger that calls that action? |
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| 05:03.27 | AlphA_VsT | it shouldnt |
| 05:03.55 | AlphA_VsT | action que is the units que 0.o isnt it |
| 05:04.41 | AlphA_VsT | oh nm |
| 05:04.58 | AlphA_VsT | you need to add actions to the que to pause it |
| 05:06.11 | AlphA_VsT | im probably wrong |
| 05:08.30 | Triceron | woot, my first model uploaded! |
| 05:09.58 | baagel | thanks. i have another question: if i have a "Wait for Conditions" action within an "If-Then-Else" action, will the "Wait for Conditions" action check the I-T-E conditions, or the actual trigger conditions? |
| 05:12.10 | AlphA_VsT | wait for condition waits for something to be ture to run |
| 05:12.17 | AlphA_VsT | yeah Triceron |
| 05:12.43 | baagel | so that action will wait for any condition then? |
| 05:13.15 | baagel | ah nvm i asked the question wrong >.> |
| 05:13.27 | baagel | i need to put this in picture form. :P |
| 05:13.59 | JademusSreg | Don't mind the pilot's area; Shadow is still working on that part. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9876544/asdfsadfsd.jpg |
| 05:14.55 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 05:16.05 | AlphA_VsT | haha |
| 05:16.13 | AlphA_VsT | yeah thats a little silly |
| 05:17.26 | SilverSeraphim | how do i make it so the Zealot Charge doesn't require an upgrade |
| 05:18.12 | AlphA_VsT | its in data |
| 05:18.18 | AlphA_VsT | under the ability |
| 05:19.12 | baagel | http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9981/unledhn.png |
| 05:19.30 | SilverSeraphim | AlphA_VsT: i don't see any kind of requirement |
| 05:19.42 | AlphA_VsT | its in |
| 05:20.31 | SilverSeraphim | oh |
| 05:20.34 | SilverSeraphim | under teh command button |
| 05:21.20 | SilverSeraphim | thanks i got it |
| 05:21.51 | AlphA_VsT | Field Zealot - Charge Ability - Command Buttons - Requirements Use Charge |
| 05:21.55 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 05:22.05 | AlphA_VsT | i forgot the field lol |
| 05:22.12 | SilverSeraphim | np np, it was hidden in there |
| 05:22.14 | SilverSeraphim | tricky... |
| 05:25.15 | AlphA_VsT | yeah it is |
| 05:25.24 | AlphA_VsT | i always forget |
| 05:27.22 | baagel | i found answer to my problem+. yay me |
| 05:28.12 | JademusSreg | London Tipton says the same thing. |
| 05:28.20 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 05:28.49 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:29.58 | baagel | haha |
| 05:31.39 | baagel | i have like 10 if-then-elses within each other <_> |
| 05:31.54 | SilverSeraphim | hmm my lobby doesn't work |
| 05:31.57 | SilverSeraphim | if i do 2v2 |
| 05:31.58 | JademusSreg | EU Map Night is still going. |
| 05:32.02 | SilverSeraphim | there are 2 people on each team |
| 05:32.04 | SilverSeraphim | but if i do 1v1 |
| 05:32.07 | SilverSeraphim | then it's 1v3... |
| 05:32.16 | JademusSreg | I'm starting think EU has the better custom map scene, goddamn. |
| 05:32.31 | JademusSreg | That, or more custom map players. |
| 05:32.34 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 05:37.00 | SilverSeraphim | is anyone on US available to help me test my 2v2 mode please? |
| 05:37.25 | SilverSeraphim | also it will be first chance to test my awesome game of awesome =] |
| 05:37.43 | JademusSreg | I would assist, were I not preoccupied. |
| 05:38.54 | SilverSeraphim | nooobody |
| 05:38.56 | SilverSeraphim | =[ |
| 05:39.21 | JademusSreg | When my daughter goes to sleep, I'll be available. |
| 05:39.57 | SilverSeraphim | it's ok. it's pretty late here anyway |
| 05:40.02 | SilverSeraphim | 1:40AM |
| 05:40.12 | SilverSeraphim | i'll do some testing of 2v2 tomorrow |
| 05:40.14 | JademusSreg | Same. |
| 05:40.18 | SilverSeraphim | xD |
| 05:40.22 | JademusSreg | But lateness doesn't bother me. |
| 05:41.14 | SilverSeraphim | nor i, but the gf has some errands we need to get done tomorrow and i want to be rested enough to not suffer when i have to wake up |
| 05:41.20 | SilverSeraphim | =p |
| 05:41.37 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 05:41.45 | AlphA_VsT | about to sleep |
| 05:41.53 | JademusSreg | My duties revolve around my daughters and maintaining the home. =D |
| 05:42.35 | SilverSeraphim | mmk |
| 05:42.41 | SilverSeraphim | good night mapsters |
| 05:42.48 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 05:42.56 | JademusSreg | An apt moniker. |
| 05:43.01 | SilverSeraphim | =D |
| 05:43.02 | JademusSreg | However revolting. |
| 05:43.07 | SilverSeraphim | lol! |
| 05:48.10 | AlphA_VsT | hehe omg so close |
| 05:49.18 | AlphA_VsT | this is going to be an insane map |
| 05:51.09 | AlphA_VsT | i almost have the basic script done for it |
| 05:54.32 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 05:54.53 | JademusSreg | I finally found the screenshots I took of a tron I roundly beat in Troncraft Rebirth. |
| 05:55.15 | JademusSreg | *I took of a troll |
| 05:55.30 | JademusSreg | Played that single game for nearly 2 hours. |
| 05:55.43 | JademusSreg | Just beating him over and over until he finally gave up. |
| 06:01.22 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 06:01.32 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 06:01.39 | AlphA_VsT | 2 hours? |
| 06:01.39 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/TrollCraftRebirth.jpg |
| 06:02.00 | JademusSreg | Big image, and you really had to be there to appreciate it. |
| 06:02.10 | JademusSreg | But yeah, nearly 2 hour match. |
| 06:02.33 | JademusSreg | They guy started trolling in the lobby, IN ALL CAPS, about how he was going to beat everyone. |
| 06:02.43 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 06:03.04 | JademusSreg | I said good luck and stomped him. |
| 06:03.07 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 06:03.10 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 06:03.13 | AlphA_VsT | for 2 hours 0.o |
| 06:03.15 | JademusSreg | That's what I did each time. |
| 06:03.16 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 06:03.20 | JademusSreg | Smiley face. |
| 06:03.24 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 06:03.24 | JademusSreg | While he raged. |
| 06:03.41 | AlphA_VsT | did you active super secret cheat mode |
| 06:03.42 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 06:03.44 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 06:03.51 | JademusSreg | I just never lose at TronCraft Rebirth. |
| 06:03.52 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 06:04.15 | JademusSreg | I hated all that right clicking, though, and I ended up making Photon Cycles. |
| 06:04.28 | JademusSreg | And they all lived happily ever after. The End. |
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| 06:04.47 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 06:05.29 | AlphA_VsT | So im now making a game called "looped" |
| 06:05.36 | JademusSreg | Orly? |
| 06:05.39 | AlphA_VsT | oh yeah |
| 06:05.49 | AlphA_VsT | simple i cant fuck this up |
| 06:05.59 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka, never say that. |
| 06:06.17 | AlphA_VsT | i cant think of any ways to make it cooler yet :P |
| 06:06.30 | JademusSreg | I go into everything assuming something significant will fuck up. |
| 06:06.39 | JademusSreg | So I'm prepared to deal with that shit. |
| 06:06.42 | AlphA_VsT | well yeah |
| 06:06.50 | AlphA_VsT | but im not going to over do it |
| 06:06.57 | AlphA_VsT | keep it simple |
| 06:07.06 | AlphA_VsT | basiclly every action has a reaction |
| 06:07.08 | JademusSreg | Like the update before last added 2 victory types, and broke two victory types. Perfect example. |
| 06:07.16 | JademusSreg | Enough about my shit, though. |
| 06:07.17 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 06:07.22 | JademusSreg | Tell me about looped. |
| 06:07.52 | AlphA_VsT | every so often the game will reset back to normal |
| 06:08.27 | AlphA_VsT | and you will have a clone of your last actions |
| 06:08.32 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 06:08.38 | JademusSreg | Seen a source mod that did that. |
| 06:08.40 | JademusSreg | Pretty neat. |
| 06:08.49 | JademusSreg | Also, a flash game. |
| 06:08.52 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 06:08.57 | JademusSreg | Also, Braid to al imited extent. |
| 06:10.41 | AlphA_VsT | not so hard i already have the rewind and play back figgured out |
| 06:10.57 | JademusSreg | (Also, Achron, the meta-time RTS, in a certain sense.) |
| 06:11.58 | AlphA_VsT | im not 100% sure on what the goal is yet or how i should really do it |
| 06:12.07 | AlphA_VsT | so many things i can do |
| 06:13.26 | JademusSreg | Puzzles or combat? |
| 06:13.37 | JademusSreg | PvP, coop, PvE? |
| 06:13.55 | AlphA_VsT | probbaly puzzles and combat for sure |
| 06:17.56 | AlphA_VsT | anyways goodnight |
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| 06:29.00 | QueenGambit | hey everyone |
| 06:29.48 | QueenGambit | =( |
| 06:31.26 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 06:31.35 | JademusSreg | Sorry, was busy. |
| 06:34.28 | QueenGambit | wondering if anyone did the NA map night. I see a news post on EU map night |
| 06:34.53 | JademusSreg | Yeah, with no one to run map night, no one is playing it. |
| 06:35.10 | QueenGambit | darn |
| 06:35.12 | JademusSreg | I played Photon Cycles for a few hours with the fans. |
| 06:35.15 | QueenGambit | i just got home too >.< |
| 06:35.22 | QueenGambit | i wish i had no life like everyone else |
| 06:35.23 | JademusSreg | Then got back to working on my texture.s |
| 06:35.24 | QueenGambit | jk |
| 06:35.27 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 06:35.32 | QueenGambit | photon cycles is amazing i like it |
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| 06:35.40 | JademusSreg | Thanks. |
| 06:35.41 | QueenGambit | simple yet fun |
| 06:35.59 | QueenGambit | any chance you can add like terrain loops? |
| 06:35.59 | JademusSreg | Yeah, that's what I'm going for. Simple, well polished maps. |
| 06:36.06 | JademusSreg | Terrain loops? |
| 06:36.17 | QueenGambit | with boosters |
| 06:36.24 | QueenGambit | like a rollercoaster loop |
| 06:36.43 | JademusSreg | That's just not anywhere near feasible given the engine. |
| 06:37.03 | JademusSreg | To do anything like that, I'd need to script everything. |
| 06:37.09 | QueenGambit | modify the z-component when it touches a region and make it perform a loop |
| 06:37.26 | JademusSreg | "make it perform a loop" is non-trivial. |
| 06:37.36 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I prefer elegance and consistence. |
| 06:37.38 | QueenGambit | well yah i guess id be pretty hard to maneuver it from scratch |
| 06:37.39 | JademusSreg | All or nothin. |
| 06:38.02 | JademusSreg | I'd need to script all movement, camera tracking, it would be a nightmare. |
| 06:38.08 | QueenGambit | yah i guess so |
| 06:38.11 | JademusSreg | For so little gains, too. |
| 06:38.26 | QueenGambit | your simple map has lots of potentials to have tons of deviations |
| 06:38.32 | QueenGambit | like adding multiple terrain |
| 06:38.35 | QueenGambit | arenas* |
| 06:38.40 | JademusSreg | I mean, if the engine supported z natively without a fuss, beyond mere aesthetics, I'd do it. |
| 06:38.50 | QueenGambit | yah |
| 06:38.54 | JademusSreg | Yeah, additional settings are planned. |
| 06:39.24 | QueenGambit | any interest in adding in different kinds of photon cycles? |
| 06:39.33 | QueenGambit | they won't have to have different stats, just simple diff models |
| 06:39.38 | QueenGambit | for those you play it many times |
| 06:40.13 | QueenGambit | like if i get 50 wins, i can use a big scaled vulture instead |
| 06:40.14 | QueenGambit | something like that |
| 06:40.22 | Dryeyece | theres a spiffy model that has random textures called a Quad Cruiser or Cruiser Quad something like that |
| 06:40.56 | JademusSreg | I seen those. |
| 06:41.00 | JademusSreg | I'll probably add them. |
| 06:41.06 | QueenGambit | great |
| 06:41.11 | JademusSreg | I've got a list of vehicle variations planned. |
| 06:41.22 | JademusSreg | And I've got a modeller working on some for me as well. |
| 06:41.32 | Dryeyece | would be cool if there was a big 4 wheeled boss cycle that would streak across the map periodically O.o |
| 06:41.42 | JademusSreg | Yeah, no, not my style. |
| 06:41.48 | QueenGambit | how about allow players to toggle camera angles on their cycle? |
| 06:41.55 | Dryeyece | but....there was one in the movie! =p |
| 06:41.56 | JademusSreg | Aesthetic and gameplay need to be consistent. |
| 06:42.01 | Dekar | JademusSreg maybe there should be a 1-2 cycle lenghth solid wall behind the cycle before it dissolves into the smaller parts, because often when you cross infront of a enemy they just randomly pass through a hole :/ |
| 06:42.05 | JademusSreg | Dry, I haven't seen either film. |
| 06:42.14 | JademusSreg | Well, I haven't seen the first since I was a child. |
| 06:42.23 | Dryeyece | lol |
| 06:42.24 | JademusSreg | Barely remember it. |
| 06:42.25 | Dryeyece | thats awesome |
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| 06:42.52 | JademusSreg | Dekar, naw, that's needlessly complicated. |
| 06:42.55 | JademusSreg | However. |
| 06:42.58 | Dryeyece | I think I saw it too but that might ahve been Starman |
| 06:43.15 | JademusSreg | Then ext update will include No Gaps, Remove Barriers, and Barrier Decay options. |
| 06:43.34 | JademusSreg | Turn all those on, and it will play like snake. |
| 06:43.36 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 06:43.43 | QueenGambit | any interests in adding in abilities for players? a set of abilities in a rock-paper-scissor fashion |
| 06:44.04 | JademusSreg | Nope. Power ups are planned, so is a one shot disc weapon. |
| 06:44.24 | JademusSreg | Yeah, this isn't mario kart. =D |
| 06:44.27 | QueenGambit | yah |
| 06:44.30 | Dekar | NOT YET |
| 06:44.31 | QueenGambit | i was gonna say lol |
| 06:44.36 | JademusSreg | Though I do like me some mario kart. |
| 06:45.37 | JademusSreg | I'd like to keep the map simple, for the most part. |
| 06:45.50 | JademusSreg | Intuitive, easy to handle, no really crazy shit. |
| 06:46.03 | JademusSreg | Though I wouldl ike to make a map full of crazy shit someday. |
| 06:46.24 | JademusSreg | I think I'll call it Crazy Shit. |
| 06:46.26 | QueenGambit | Its fun to just experiment with ideas |
| 06:46.41 | JademusSreg | Absolutely. |
| 06:46.59 | JademusSreg | I have a clear vision. Anything that fits that vision is cool with me. |
| 06:49.07 | QueenGambit | try using ur map as a base for trying out different ideas. A lot of mappers have a hard time doing this |
| 06:49.23 | QueenGambit | even if you want your map to be consistant and simple, simply publish another version and keep it private |
| 06:49.30 | QueenGambit | and allow us sc2mapsters to play on it =) |
| 06:49.57 | JademusSreg | Naw, I don't have a hard tiome trying out ideas. |
| 06:50.05 | JademusSreg | I have dozens of proof of concept maps. |
| 06:50.53 | QueenGambit | oh okay cool |
| 06:51.09 | JademusSreg | I simply know what I want. =D |
| 06:51.20 | JademusSreg | I enjoy feedback though. |
| 06:51.45 | JademusSreg | If anything, even the feedback I wouldn't implement evah helps me to refine my vision. |
| 06:52.23 | Dekar | i think the map needs more cows |
| 06:52.28 | QueenGambit | i know =) |
| 06:52.37 | QueenGambit | thats why im always providing it on dozens of maps |
| 06:52.49 | JademusSreg | Nope. Cows don't fit the aesthetic. |
| 06:52.57 | Dekar | virtual cows |
| 06:53.11 | JademusSreg | Also, failure of purpose. =D |
| 06:53.18 | JademusSreg | Moooo |
| 06:53.22 | Dekar | they randomly move around and block your path? :p |
| 06:53.33 | JademusSreg | Annoying. |
| 06:53.35 | JademusSreg | Although. |
| 06:53.50 | JademusSreg | I do have plans to add obstacles of some sort in the future. |
| 06:54.00 | JademusSreg | So maybe "digital cows" will end up in there. |
| 06:56.05 | Dekar | that will be the map the best thing that can happen to your map judged by the recent increase of beastiality talk in this channel |
| 06:56.15 | JademusSreg | Ew. |
| 06:56.24 | Dekar | xD |
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| 07:15.26 | JademusSreg | I think I'll use the power symbol as a life indicator beside a player's name on the scoreboard. |
| 07:34.41 | JademusSreg | Sleep tuime. |
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| 08:04.27 | Demalii | Anyone help with having a unit be able to destroy crushable trees in its path? So Far I've done like , buff -> search area w/ validator value of the tree unit? and that's not working |
| 08:05.08 | Dekar | the odin destroys stuff, doesnt it? |
| 08:05.15 | Dekar | from the campaign |
| 08:05.20 | Dekar | media blitz mission |
| 08:05.24 | Dekar | take a look at it |
| 08:05.49 | Demalii | i don't recall which mission that is |
| 08:07.00 | Dekar | where you have to destroy 3 enemy bases, and you start with the odin and can take out 1 of them |
| 08:07.09 | Dekar | after that you get control of your base |
| 08:07.32 | Dekar | i think the odin destroys stuff you walk over |
| 08:07.37 | Demalii | ohh |
| 08:07.37 | Demalii | uh |
| 08:07.42 | Dekar | but i dont see anything at the unit |
| 08:07.45 | Demalii | there's nothing to destroy like that on that map |
| 08:07.45 | Dekar | that may cause it |
| 08:07.56 | Dekar | it destroys cars and lampposts? |
| 08:08.06 | Dekar | well |
| 08:08.08 | Dekar | i guess |
| 08:08.12 | Dekar | do you use units? |
| 08:08.15 | Dekar | that you want to destroy |
| 08:08.27 | Demalii | I'm using Korhal trees - destructable units |
| 08:08.38 | Demalii | those are whjat i want to destroy when the unit is in the radius |
| 08:08.42 | Dekar | you have to make a buff |
| 08:08.45 | Demalii | and my setup didn't work right |
| 08:08.47 | Dekar | with periodic effect |
| 08:08.52 | Demalii | I have buff -> search area |
| 08:08.57 | Dekar | the periodic effect is search |
| 08:09.14 | Dekar | and the search makes a damage effect |
| 08:09.22 | Demalii | what dmg effect do i use for search? |
| 08:09.37 | Dekar | i dont think it matters as long as you set the damage high enough |
| 08:09.43 | Demalii | hmm |
| 08:09.51 | Demalii | ok lemme try |
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| 10:09.02 | Kueken | hey |
| 10:09.17 | Kueken | is there a way to get units in control groups of players? |
| 10:10.10 | Kueken | like checks, if units are in a control group, events, if units are put into them, maybe get a unit group matching the control group? |
| 10:10.12 | Kueken | anything? |
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| 10:18.39 | blub_ | Kueken: yeah |
| 10:18.50 | blub_ | Kueken: I think so |
| 10:18.57 | Kueken | I did not find anything |
| 10:19.05 | Kueken | you can add, remove and clear |
| 10:19.22 | Kueken | but I did not find anything to detect user interactions with control groups |
| 10:19.26 | blub_ | or maybe not |
| 10:19.30 | blub_ | only finding adding to and removing from |
| 10:19.36 | blub_ | that's odd |
| 10:19.56 | blub_ | hmmm |
| 10:19.59 | Helral | unit is in unit group condition? |
| 10:20.12 | blub_ | Helral: but you don't get the unit group for a control group |
| 10:20.50 | Helral | checking thought there was |
| 10:21.11 | Kueken | I would have expected it |
| 10:21.31 | blub_ | Kueken: they probably didn't need it =P |
| 10:21.39 | Kueken | :/ |
| 10:21.44 | Kueken | mit come in handy for me |
| 10:21.48 | Kueken | *might |
| 10:21.49 | blub_ | my theory: tehy only added the very functions they need |
| 10:22.06 | blub_ | that's for example why you can only get *one* of the 2 units which make up a "unit in range of unit" event |
| 10:22.33 | Kueken | and everything they thought other ppl might need, but they were not very open-minded :/ |
| 10:22.39 | blub_ | Kueken: well, you COULD... do... |
| 10:22.42 | blub_ | enters crazy mode |
| 10:22.50 | blub_ | listen for ctrl+number events |
| 10:22.53 | blub_ | and keep track of the groups |
| 10:22.56 | blub_ | leaves crazy mode |
| 10:22.58 | blub_ | but that's crazy :D |
| 10:23.02 | Kueken | dont get startet with detecting all key press events ^^ |
| 10:23.14 | blub_ | Kueken: you really only need 0-9 keys |
| 10:23.19 | blub_ | and check for ctrl enabled xD |
| 10:23.21 | Kueken | you can also assign groups with right click on the group button |
| 10:23.26 | blub_ | oh right |
| 10:23.29 | blub_ | but who does that, really :P |
| 10:23.34 | blub_ | xD |
| 10:23.51 | Kueken | beginners, who don't know about ctrk |
| 10:23.53 | Kueken | *l |
| 10:24.14 | Kueken | I usually hide the control group bar, so I cannot even use it that way ;) |
| 10:24.22 | blub_ | guess you'll have to find some other way of doing what ou need |
| 10:25.02 | Kueken | well, its not absolutely needed |
| 10:25.24 | Kueken | but people usually save their hero and their main building in groups for my map |
| 10:25.44 | Kueken | so I thought it would be convenient to save which one is saved in which group in a bank |
| 10:25.52 | Kueken | and set it up automatically at start |
| 10:26.12 | Kueken | so its not important at all |
| 10:26.41 | blub_ | I'd just force heros to 1 xD |
| 10:26.47 | blub_ | well, force... start that way |
| 10:26.51 | blub_ | and never care about it again ^^ |
| 10:27.19 | Kueken | I will probably do that ;) |
| 10:27.34 | Kueken | but would be nice anyway |
| 10:27.47 | Helral | guess it ain't there :S |
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| 13:58.29 | Zyff | Wazzaa. |
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| 14:22.11 | burne- | anyone on eu up for testing star drivers again? |
| 14:22.19 | burne- | yesterday it didnt go so well :( |
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| 14:29.45 | Zyff | What's it about burne- |
| 14:29.55 | burne- | driving |
| 14:30.10 | Zyff | I could help I guess, I don't have much time left though ? |
| 14:30.45 | Zyff | Want me to log on ? :-) |
| 14:30.50 | burne- | sure |
| 14:31.05 | Zyff | Add Dresnia #707 or just invite |
| 14:31.07 | Zyff | See you there. |
| 14:38.46 | burne- | gizmoooooo' |
| 14:38.48 | burne- | bnet |
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| 15:14.42 | Bounty | >< |
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| 15:54.38 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 15:55.19 | Helral | whacks JademusSreg |
| 15:55.23 | Helral | stop awakening so often ;p |
| 15:55.39 | Helral | is afk |
| 15:56.54 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 15:57.02 | JademusSreg | I awaken once per day. |
| 15:58.46 | Zyff | Good awakening ? |
| 15:58.47 | Helral | hmmm |
| 15:59.00 | Helral | maybe I should knock you out then once per day *grins* |
| 16:00.37 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 16:00.56 | JademusSreg | That would throw off my wake:day ratio. |
| 16:01.03 | Helral | why? |
| 16:01.04 | JademusSreg | It's a good thing I don't take naps. |
| 16:01.08 | Helral | hehehe |
| 16:01.34 | JademusSreg | Gah my daughter pulloed out my amp. |
| 16:02.31 | JademusSreg | Anyway, as usual, NA map night failed to materialize. |
| 16:07.52 | JademusSreg | Time to test the batch of ui textures I made last night. |
| 16:14.58 | Helral | JademusSreg: did ya have breakfast yet? |
| 16:15.02 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 16:15.24 | Helral | makes JademusSreg breakfast with sleeping powder. |
| 16:15.29 | Helral | ;p |
| 16:15.48 | JademusSreg | I tend not to eat breakfast for several hours after I awaken. |
| 16:15.48 | Helral | have a nice breakfast :) |
| 16:15.52 | Helral | damn |
| 16:16.10 | JademusSreg | I usually have breakfast in the afternoon. |
| 16:16.18 | JademusSreg | Then dinner a few hours after that. |
| 16:16.21 | Helral | you usually brunch ;p |
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| 16:29.52 | burne- | This is how Helral s mind works |
| 16:29.52 | burne- | http://media.riemurasia.net/albumit/mmedia/no/b8/glt3/336576/810451805.jpg |
| 16:30.38 | Helral | meow? |
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| 16:47.43 | JademusSreg | Haha, burne. |
| 16:48.23 | JademusSreg | People who think their cats understand and/or are psychic are hilarious. |
| 16:48.30 | JademusSreg | And by hilarious, I mean sad. |
| 16:48.38 | Helral | meow |
| 16:49.20 | JademusSreg | Good news: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9876544/Untitled-1.jpg |
| 16:49.46 | JademusSreg | Shadow Killer's custom photon cycle is looking damn fine. |
| 16:49.56 | Zyff | Awesome. |
| 16:50.09 | Zyff | I'm out guys, going to the movies too watch Fags and Furious 5 >_> |
| 16:50.15 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 16:50.36 | Zyff | My buddy wants too, ah well. He pays so who am I right :-D |
| 16:50.47 | JademusSreg | Prepare for shirtless Vin Deisel. |
| 16:50.57 | Zyff | Deisel ? |
| 16:51.05 | JademusSreg | I wonder if they put make up on his back to hide his huge DnD tattoo. |
| 16:51.11 | Zyff | There better be some shirtless sex scenes in that ! |
| 16:51.27 | Zyff | Female shirtless, that is ! |
| 16:51.34 | Zyff | Right, see you awakaner. |
| 16:51.35 | JademusSreg | PG-13? |
| 16:51.39 | JademusSreg | Later Z. |
| 16:51.50 | A1win | durpdurp durp |
| 16:52.00 | Zyff | is now away and I typed this manually using /me causse I got the vanilla client ! |
| 16:52.20 | JademusSreg | I've never heard of Vanilla irc client. |
| 16:52.41 | JademusSreg | I prefer Dark Chocolate, though. |
| 16:52.44 | Deaod | hes probably talking about vanilla mIRC. |
| 16:52.58 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 16:53.05 | Deaod | but what the hell. |
| 16:53.46 | A1win | this day is slow |
| 16:53.51 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 16:53.55 | A1win | and eventless |
| 16:54.04 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/OptionCardPreview.jpg |
| 16:54.10 | JademusSreg | Here's my wip. |
| 16:54.26 | Bounty | Lookin good JademusSreg |
| 16:54.28 | Deaod | looks cool. |
| 16:54.38 | JademusSreg | It's still missing a lot of stuff. |
| 16:54.45 | JademusSreg | But I'm working on the basic layout. |
| 16:54.52 | JademusSreg | Also, thanks. =D |
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| 17:13.59 | Kueken | hey |
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| 17:14.18 | Kueken | someone knows, why halo sometimes malfunctions for specific units? |
| 17:14.41 | JademusSreg | Malfunction? |
| 17:14.57 | Kueken | yes |
| 17:15.06 | Kueken | you know what I mean with halo? |
| 17:15.28 | JademusSreg | Specifically? |
| 17:15.39 | JademusSreg | Specifically, which malfunction? |
| 17:15.51 | Kueken | the halo only shows up partially |
| 17:15.59 | Kueken | its cut in half |
| 17:16.10 | Kueken | shows just from feet to center |
| 17:16.13 | Kueken | or something |
| 17:16.19 | A1win | you need post processing set on ultra |
| 17:16.20 | Kueken | but only for specific models |
| 17:16.40 | A1win | to enable depth of field |
| 17:17.02 | A1win | on low, halos don't even show up |
| 17:17.08 | Kueken | yes, I know that |
| 17:17.17 | Kueken | but for some models it works just fine |
| 17:17.29 | JademusSreg | bbl, preparing dinner |
| 17:17.37 | Kueken | I can only set it to medium o_0 |
| 17:18.40 | A1win | you need some other setting higher first |
| 17:18.41 | Kueken | ah |
| 17:18.43 | Kueken | yes |
| 17:18.44 | A1win | shaders I guess |
| 17:18.46 | Kueken | shades |
| 17:18.47 | Kueken | r |
| 17:19.18 | A1win | anyway, it's not a good idea to use only halos to indicate something, since not everyone can see them |
| 17:19.38 | Bounty | that depends on your goal |
| 17:19.44 | Kueken | still broken |
| 17:20.00 | A1win | dunno then |
| 17:20.05 | Kueken | well, they are not the only visual indication, just an additional one |
| 17:20.06 | Bounty | do you want to make something visually amazing or do you want to cater to low end pc's >< |
| 17:21.01 | Kueken | they show up just fine for an ultralisk and an archon |
| 17:21.17 | Kueken | about half for a firebat and a hydralisk |
| 17:21.26 | Kueken | and not at all for jim raynor |
| 17:21.52 | Kueken | well, probably some model setting, I should look into that |
| 17:25.29 | Jum-Jum | Is there any tutorial on how to get the Zerg AI to use creep tumors? |
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| 17:46.53 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
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| 17:53.45 | baagel | how do i pan the camera for all players using the "Pan Camera" action? |
| 17:54.47 | slightlyrandom | Pick each Player and do "Pan Camera" |
| 17:56.49 | baagel | ah ok thanks |
| 17:57.16 | blub_ | in the GUI there are several "loops" available IIRC |
| 17:57.37 | blub_ | "for each <number> do", "for each <unit> in unitgroup do", "for each <player> in playergroup do"... |
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| 17:59.11 | Bounty | Hai guys |
| 18:00.04 | blub_ | just got 2 people hooked on Photon Cycles |
| 18:00.14 | blub_ | XD |
| 18:10.10 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 18:10.25 | JademusSreg | Glad you like it. |
| 18:10.32 | JademusSreg | Hi Bounty. |
| 18:20.27 | burne- | HOOOOOOOOOMING MISSILES |
| 18:20.51 | burne- | has anyone else tested the game modes on photon cycles? |
| 18:20.56 | burne- | I have no idea what they like |
| 18:21.51 | JademusSreg | I can explain. |
| 18:22.07 | JademusSreg | Round is the default, and it ends at a specific round. |
| 18:22.20 | burne- | you should make the voting ingame though? nobody changes the game variants |
| 18:22.24 | JademusSreg | Score ends when a person achieves a score. |
| 18:22.36 | JademusSreg | Time ends, well, it's pretty obvious at this point. |
| 18:22.54 | JademusSreg | burne, the next update will enable an ingame option selection. |
| 18:23.01 | JademusSreg | The update after that will enable voting. |
| 18:23.14 | JademusSreg | I'm ditching lobby options completey; they suck so badly. |
| 18:25.50 | Bounty | I think i'm finally fried |
| 18:25.58 | Bounty | I cant spend more then 5 minutes in the editor |
| 18:26.48 | burne- | take a break |
| 18:26.58 | burne- | i took like 2 months break from mapping and now its fun again |
| 18:27.11 | Bounty | Yeah, i think i have no choice but to do that |
| 18:27.26 | Bounty | Like, i get excited to make something... then i go to do it and i just feel meh |
| 18:27.32 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:28.25 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 18:28.28 | JademusSreg | I know that feeling. |
| 18:28.48 | Bounty | Yeah but this is with every single thing i try to do |
| 18:28.57 | JademusSreg | Hey, burne or blub, how many hours played / what page does Photon Cycles have in the EU? |
| 18:29.02 | Bounty | Most of the time i dont even get to the editor, i go to click it and i just go meh fuck it |
| 18:29.15 | burne- | it was page 2 yesterday |
| 18:29.22 | burne- | i guess it was 400h or something |
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| 18:29.36 | Bounty | Nice, congrats JademusSreg |
| 18:29.48 | JademusSreg | I cannot get over the irony of its popularity there, when it's stuck on page 5 here. =D |
| 18:30.14 | JademusSreg | Anyway, this next update will be massive and awesome. |
| 18:30.19 | Bounty | YOU'VE MADE IT TO PAGE TWO OF THE POPULARITY LIST! WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO NOW!? **Puts microphone in JademusSregs face** |
| 18:30.31 | JademusSreg | I'm going to Disney World. |
| 18:30.47 | Bounty | You know why its on page 2 in EU and not in US Jademus? |
| 18:30.52 | Bounty | 1. Americans are retards |
| 18:30.54 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:30.59 | Bounty | 2. EU has like no maps |
| 18:31.03 | Bounty | They eat that shit up |
| 18:31.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:31.13 | JademusSreg | Shadow's latest work, trying to get the team color -just- right. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9876544/afasdfdsa.jpg |
| 18:31.34 | Bounty | is that a custom model? |
| 18:31.37 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 18:31.37 | burne- | yes EU has maps like planetary boss and so so its super easy to get to page 2 |
| 18:31.46 | Bounty | ditching the carrier? :( |
| 18:31.49 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 18:31.53 | JademusSreg | Adding more variety. |
| 18:32.08 | Bounty | Planetary Boss? |
| 18:32.13 | JademusSreg | Dark Carrier, Carrier, Hero Carrier and more will be selectable. |
| 18:32.15 | Bounty | People dont actually still play those do they? |
| 18:32.21 | burne- | probly not |
| 18:32.41 | Bounty | I made those like... atleast 10+ months ago |
| 18:32.50 | burne- | I know |
| 18:32.58 | Bounty | So...bad lol |
| 18:33.05 | JademusSreg | Shadow does great work. |
| 18:33.13 | JademusSreg | That's not even a custom texture. |
| 18:33.14 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 18:33.26 | burne- | hah that looks interesting |
| 18:33.27 | burne- | :) |
| 18:33.44 | Bounty | Are you going to have the Ribbon effect on those? |
| 18:33.49 | JademusSreg | Can't. |
| 18:33.52 | Bounty | they need some sort of exhaust |
| 18:33.53 | Bounty | in the back |
| 18:33.56 | Bounty | like |
| 18:34.01 | JademusSreg | The current convertor doesn't support ribbon emitters. |
| 18:34.02 | Bounty | where the "light" comes out |
| 18:34.12 | JademusSreg | The current third party tools are suck. |
| 18:34.18 | JademusSreg | Bounty, I would if I could. |
| 18:38.41 | Bounty | btw JademusSreg |
| 18:38.50 | Bounty | Darkspore isnt that bad |
| 18:38.53 | Bounty | Enjoying it |
| 18:39.20 | Bounty | GOTTA CATCHUM ALL |
| 18:39.22 | JademusSreg | It's mediocre. I didn't say it wasn't enjoyable. |
| 18:39.33 | Bounty | Well |
| 18:39.38 | Bounty | Thats all you had to say |
| 18:39.48 | Bounty | I never follow what you say usually, to many paragraphs |
| 18:39.53 | Bounty | >< |
| 18:40.03 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 18:40.08 | JademusSreg | Serves you right! |
| 18:42.56 | Bounty | Question JademusSreg |
| 18:43.06 | Bounty | Would you play a map that played like Heavy Rain? |
| 18:43.13 | Bounty | like pure story based, no action but you shape the story |
| 18:43.43 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 18:43.52 | Bounty | and why? |
| 18:44.05 | JademusSreg | Time. |
| 18:44.12 | Bounty | ???????????????????? |
| 18:44.13 | JademusSreg | Skill. |
| 18:44.15 | JademusSreg | Fun. |
| 18:44.21 | Bounty | what? |
| 18:44.35 | Bounty | not sure what you're saying.... as usual |
| 18:44.54 | JademusSreg | I might play a game like Heavy Rain, but not a story-telling map. |
| 18:45.10 | Bounty | What if the story was one of the greatest stories ever written |
| 18:45.11 | JademusSreg | I am not interested in the cinematic aspirations of games. |
| 18:46.54 | JademusSreg | Like I don't play any Final Fantasy games released in the last decade because they are cinematics interspersed with gameplay that involves hitting things so hard they regurgitate numbers from every orifice. |
| 18:47.27 | JademusSreg | I wouldn't play Heavy Rain because it is movie with Quick Time Events. |
| 18:47.29 | Bounty | Yeah but the old FF games were heavily story based aswell |
| 18:47.34 | JademusSreg | And Quick Time Events are the devil. |
| 18:48.12 | Bounty | VI and VII are mostly remembered for their characters and story |
| 18:48.34 | JademusSreg | I didn't like 7. |
| 18:48.48 | JademusSreg | That last FF game I enjoyed was FFT. |
| 18:49.08 | Bounty | What about VI? |
| 18:49.11 | JademusSreg | Beating 7 was akin to wanking into a toaster. |
| 18:49.58 | JademusSreg | I enjoyed 6; not for the story, since the story was just Star Wars + Kefka Crazy Person, but because it had solid and engaging gameplay for the period. |
| 18:50.18 | JademusSreg | I was always finding something new to discover/kill/glitch. |
| 18:51.13 | JademusSreg | Stories in gaming provide context to the events that take place in the game. |
| 18:51.19 | JademusSreg | They shouldn't -be- the game. |
| 18:51.37 | JademusSreg | I love a good story. |
| 18:51.51 | JademusSreg | And I applaud games that have good stories. |
| 18:52.08 | JademusSreg | So it's not like I am anti-story or whatever. |
| 18:52.30 | JademusSreg | The most important thing for a game is the gameplay. |
| 18:52.56 | JademusSreg | Going through a series of QTE to, I dunno, play with my kid in the yard as in Heavy Rain, that is not good gameplay. |
| 18:53.00 | JademusSreg | That is shit. |
| 18:53.09 | Bounty | lol |
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| 19:12.37 | burne- | ok made semi homing missiles for star drives |
| 19:12.42 | burne- | anyone wana help me test? |
| 19:15.34 | ldrb | Wellll |
| 19:15.39 | ldrb | I don't know what wap create |
| 19:16.05 | JademusSreg | Make something you would enjoy playing. |
| 19:17.51 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/OptionCardPreview.jpg |
| 19:18.12 | JademusSreg | Thar we go. |
| 19:18.18 | JademusSreg | Headers/ |
| 19:18.38 | JademusSreg | Though I'm not quite satisfied with the condition headers. |
| 19:19.22 | JademusSreg | brb |
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| 19:22.15 | AlphA_VsT | sexy |
| 19:22.17 | burne- | not a big fan of end conditions |
| 19:22.22 | burne- | you should remove score atleast imo |
| 19:22.29 | burne- | since its usually super hard to get some score |
| 19:22.30 | JademusSreg | (Nope) |
| 19:22.34 | burne- | so games go too long |
| 19:23.00 | JademusSreg | (Score is the fairest end condition. Anyone can bounce back.) |
| 19:23.26 | burne- | i play it for fun not to win |
| 19:23.31 | JademusSreg | (I'm not going to baby players; they can play however long they want and accept the consequences.) |
| 19:24.22 | AlphA_VsT | yes |
| 19:24.26 | AlphA_VsT | let them choose |
| 19:26.16 | burne- | I just hope it doesnt go like mafia voting |
| 19:26.25 | burne- | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:27.19 | burne- | as long as the score required isnt too high i guess its fine |
| 19:29.08 | JademusSreg | I'm going to add drop down menus below the End Conditions, so the host can select the value. |
| 19:30.48 | JademusSreg | I think I'll play some custom games. |
| 19:42.44 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 19:42.52 | AlphA_VsT | i just played the worst guy at melee ever |
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| 19:43.19 | burne- | I need help testin on EU |
| 19:43.47 | AlphA_VsT | he was terran and i saw an empty base at the 8 min mark so i was like he fast expanded |
| 19:43.52 | AlphA_VsT | it was his main 0.o |
| 19:44.27 | AlphA_VsT | so i built cannons 0.o |
| 19:45.09 | AlphA_VsT | ok so more liek the 4 min mark but still 0.o |
| 19:47.59 | AlphA_VsT | sigh one more |
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| 20:40.38 | AlphA_VsT | rawr |
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| 20:53.21 | Bounty | >< |
| 20:53.55 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 20:54.45 | Zyff | I AM BACK |
| 20:55.18 | AlphA_VsT | where you ever here? |
| 20:55.31 | Zyff | You tell me ? |
| 20:56.34 | AlphA_VsT | no |
| 20:58.45 | Zyff | Ok, I'm out then. |
| 20:58.48 | Zyff | cya in an hour or so |
| 20:59.49 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 21:03.24 | Dekar | i won mafia as godfather |
| 21:03.30 | Dekar | im teh super manipulator |
| 21:03.31 | Dekar | >_> |
| 21:07.50 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 21:13.10 | burne- | Dekar: you deserve a cookie |
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| 21:32.51 | SilverSeraphim | anyone available to help test my map on US? |
| 21:33.08 | AlphA_VsT | maybe |
| 21:33.16 | SilverSeraphim | AlphA_VsT: ! |
| 21:33.24 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 21:33.38 | SilverSeraphim | =] |
| 21:33.57 | SilverSeraphim | you know you want to |
| 21:34.05 | SilverSeraphim | i need 1 more person to test 2v2 mode |
| 21:34.16 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 21:34.30 | SilverSeraphim | it will be the most fun you have ever had |
| 21:34.31 | SilverSeraphim | in your life |
| 21:35.25 | AlphA_VsT | im in sc2mapster 0.o |
| 21:35.34 | SilverSeraphim | oh, let me join that channel |
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| 21:44.01 | AlphA_VsT | to confusing |
| 21:44.47 | SilverSeraphim | lol |
| 21:45.08 | SilverSeraphim | basically you are using Q, W, E, or R to select a type of DNA |
| 21:45.15 | AlphA_VsT | plain and simple it is 0.o |
| 21:46.37 | SilverSeraphim | you combine 1, 2, or 3 different DNA types |
| 21:46.43 | SilverSeraphim | and they give you different units |
| 21:46.51 | AlphA_VsT | why was there 4 buttons then |
| 21:47.00 | SilverSeraphim | one for each DNA type |
| 21:47.05 | SilverSeraphim | Q is Muscular DNA |
| 21:47.08 | SilverSeraphim | W is Neural |
| 21:47.14 | SilverSeraphim | E is Exoskeletal |
| 21:47.16 | SilverSeraphim | R is Psionic |
| 21:47.36 | AlphA_VsT | thats fine i was randomly pressign them |
| 21:47.40 | SilverSeraphim | lol |
| 21:47.49 | AlphA_VsT | no idea how to make units |
| 21:47.59 | SilverSeraphim | you mean you don't understand which units you are making? |
| 21:48.13 | AlphA_VsT | i didnt know how to make units |
| 21:48.21 | AlphA_VsT | i pressed random btutons till soemthing happened |
| 21:48.36 | AlphA_VsT | and shit randomly happened |
| 21:48.50 | SilverSeraphim | you "activate" some DNA types, then hit SPACE to combine them |
| 21:48.51 | AlphA_VsT | and my units would run to the back of my base |
| 21:49.04 | SilverSeraphim | well you and i were team 1 on the left |
| 21:49.06 | AlphA_VsT | when i did mange to |
| 21:49.51 | AlphA_VsT | i didnt even know that |
| 21:49.57 | AlphA_VsT | i was just confused |
| 21:50.29 | SilverSeraphim | yeah... i need to make instructions |
| 21:50.46 | AlphA_VsT | i read the loading screen didnt do much for me though |
| 21:51.54 | SilverSeraphim | well, i will work on the instructions |
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| 21:57.02 | AlphA_VsT | i also hate games where you have to memorize what makes what 0.o |
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| 22:08.10 | Zyff | AlphA_VsT it's not our fault your brain is malfunctioning :-( |
| 22:09.05 | AlphA_VsT | no its just the bad ui and having no feed back what so ever |
| 22:09.22 | Zyff | I feel you man. |
| 22:11.58 | Zyff | I'm bored. Entertain me ! |
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| 22:16.40 | AlphA_VsT | go touch yoru self |
| 22:17.14 | Zyff | Nah my wife's asleep |
| 22:17.18 | Zyff | Would be occward :-D |
| 22:17.47 | Zyff | Considering too boot the editor or hit bed, hmm. |
| 22:24.09 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 22:24.20 | AlphA_VsT | this game |
| 22:24.26 | AlphA_VsT | is so confusing to make |
| 22:24.41 | Zyff | Wich game ? |
| 22:24.43 | AlphA_VsT | i cant even get the orders correct :( |
| 22:24.50 | AlphA_VsT | my new map |
| 22:24.57 | Zyff | What's it about ? |
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| 22:25.44 | AlphA_VsT | time :P |
| 22:25.49 | Zyff | Or is there a thread up about it perhaps ? |
| 22:25.51 | Zyff | Time ? |
| 22:25.57 | Zyff | Are you a time traveler ? :-D |
| 22:26.58 | AlphA_VsT | sure |
| 22:27.47 | Zyff | Nice. Travel over here and gimme a burger ! |
| 22:27.51 | Zyff | Btw you US or EU |
| 22:28.38 | AlphA_VsT | us |
| 22:30.08 | Zyff | What time is it there now ? |
| 22:30.17 | Zyff | I'm EU at 0.30 AM currently. |
| 22:34.44 | AlphA_VsT | 3pm |
| 22:35.53 | Zyff | Cool |
| 22:36.06 | Zyff | Is the 3d party Editor Galaxy++ thingy any good ? I mean is it a must or.. |
| 22:36.56 | Zyff | Oh it's purely for coding it seems :> |
| 22:37.31 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 22:37.31 | AlphA_VsT | ive never used it |
| 22:38.03 | AlphA_VsT | yay my trigger works |
| 22:38.08 | Zyff | +1 ! |
| 22:39.00 | AlphA_VsT | so simple |
| 22:39.47 | Zyff | Man I wan't to start some stuff but I'm so scared :( |
| 22:39.59 | Zyff | I did 0 in the Editor so far so I'll keep running stuck :P |
| 22:40.08 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 22:40.13 | AlphA_VsT | only one way to learn 0.o |
| 22:40.55 | Zyff | It's not that I would need too learn 'mapping' |
| 22:41.02 | Zyff | It's just the editor is pritty new too me |
| 22:41.17 | Zyff | + I'm not 100% yet what / how I want too make |
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| 22:44.42 | DarkRevenant | what the hell is wrong with blizzard |
| 22:44.49 | DarkRevenant | the colonist male head attachment works fine |
| 22:44.55 | DarkRevenant | but the colonist female head attachment |
| 22:45.04 | DarkRevenant | is somewhere about 15 feet off of the ground |
| 22:45.10 | JademusSreg | Haha, lame. |
| 22:45.12 | DarkRevenant | it's like the hat i put on her is on the top of a pole |
| 22:45.17 | DarkRevenant | and that pole is fixed to the top of her head |
| 22:45.21 | DarkRevenant | and that pole is 10 feet long |
| 22:45.32 | Zyff | Woman's are always in a bad mood, so there face is natural ;< |
| 22:46.19 | Zyff | Mephs I'm watching you ! |
| 22:46.24 | JademusSreg | The m3 convertor by NiN or whoever should support attachment points (I hope). |
| 22:46.44 | JademusSreg | Just a simple model edit should fix it. |
| 22:46.50 | JademusSreg | But yes, super lame. |
| 22:47.00 | DarkRevenant | no |
| 22:47.02 | DarkRevenant | a simple model edit |
| 22:47.04 | DarkRevenant | wont work |
| 22:47.10 | DarkRevenant | you see, her animation scheme is different than other units |
| 22:47.15 | DarkRevenant | i can't import her animations |
| 22:47.32 | DarkRevenant | i can only import the model, bones, bounding sphere, and attachment points |
| 22:47.42 | JademusSreg | =\ |
| 22:47.44 | DarkRevenant | meaning when i export, even if I force her to use the female animations .m3a |
| 22:47.46 | DarkRevenant | she's not moving |
| 22:47.47 | JademusSreg | That shit is ridiculous. |
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| 22:48.02 | JademusSreg | Hi Mexa. |
| 22:48.18 | JademusSreg | Shitty m3 convertor. |
| 22:48.35 | DarkRevenant | more like |
| 22:48.38 | DarkRevenant | shitty blizzard scheme |
| 22:48.45 | DarkRevenant | the converter worked perfectly for everything else |
| 22:48.47 | Mexa | Heyo Jademus |
| 22:48.51 | JademusSreg | Well, yeah, but that's always a given, DR. |
| 22:48.51 | DarkRevenant | the only units it doesnt work for are the ones im using |
| 22:48.53 | DarkRevenant | the colonists |
| 22:49.05 | Mexa | Hey Dark, did you fix your issue with your bank? |
| 22:49.15 | DarkRevenant | there are always issues with my banks |
| 22:49.16 | JademusSreg | But the convertor doesn't support ribbon emitters or walkability planes. =\ |
| 22:49.20 | Mexa | lolk |
| 22:49.24 | DarkRevenant | i fixed the resets until a hacker made a 1500-character text key |
| 22:49.26 | DarkRevenant | in place of their name |
| 22:49.28 | DarkRevenant | in the global leaderboard |
| 22:49.33 | DarkRevenant | causing the bank to overflow and reset each time |
| 22:49.41 | DarkRevenant | so i had to make a huge rewrite of that system |
| 22:49.46 | DarkRevenant | to make players type in their bnet name |
| 22:49.48 | DarkRevenant | as a limited string |
| 22:49.55 | DarkRevenant | to be on the leaderboard |
| 22:50.02 | Mexa | Can't you just crop it? |
| 22:50.02 | DarkRevenant | that was all i did today |
| 22:50.05 | DarkRevenant | no |
| 22:50.19 | DarkRevenant | texts cannot be reduced, read, or overwritten |
| 22:50.20 | JademusSreg | Can't handle text worth a damn. |
| 22:50.22 | DarkRevenant | in any way, shape, or form |
| 22:50.30 | DarkRevenant | you can |
| 22:50.32 | DarkRevenant | 1. check they exist |
| 22:50.34 | DarkRevenant | 2. add to them |
| 22:50.36 | DarkRevenant | that is it. |
| 22:50.38 | JademusSreg | Replace, too. |
| 22:50.45 | Mexa | Why would you save text though? |
| 22:50.47 | DarkRevenant | 3. replace them |
| 22:50.50 | DarkRevenant | 4. display their context |
| 22:50.51 | DarkRevenant | because |
| 22:50.53 | DarkRevenant | player names |
| 22:50.54 | DarkRevenant | are text |
| 22:51.00 | JademusSreg | zug zug |
| 22:51.10 | JademusSreg | Text is an annoying type. |
| 22:51.12 | Mexa | But you recently said they had to type them in |
| 22:51.22 | Mexa | So, why text? |
| 22:51.39 | JademusSreg | Annoying because the API is so (deliberately) limited. |
| 22:51.42 | DarkRevenant | well |
| 22:51.44 | DarkRevenant | it WAS text |
| 22:51.45 | DarkRevenant | i had to make this |
| 22:51.47 | DarkRevenant | big system |
| 22:51.51 | DarkRevenant | as an emergency change |
| 22:51.56 | DarkRevenant | its not released yet |
| 22:52.56 | Mexa | strings cannot be overwritten in a sense too |
| 22:53.06 | Mexa | As they are serilizable |
| 22:53.12 | Mexa | *serializable |
| 22:53.17 | DarkRevenant | lol |
| 22:53.24 | DarkRevenant | there's another problem too |
| 22:55.10 | Mexa | go on? |
| 22:55.14 | DarkRevenant | i have to |
| 22:55.20 | DarkRevenant | finish updating the current problem first |
| 22:55.22 | DarkRevenant | before i describe |
| 22:55.29 | Mexa | oke |
| 23:11.09 | DarkRevenant | okay so |
| 23:11.18 | DarkRevenant | my problem is that i need a way to |
| 23:11.26 | DarkRevenant | move the hat attachment on the female model |
| 23:11.29 | DarkRevenant | down about 6 or so units |
| 23:11.44 | DarkRevenant | how do i move attachments in data/triggers? |
| 23:12.06 | DarkRevenant | i dont mean moving the attachment point, rather the model that is being attached |
| 23:12.12 | DarkRevenant | site ops i think are what i need but |
| 23:12.17 | DarkRevenant | how would i use them for this task |
| 23:23.27 | AlphA_VsT | no idea |
| 23:28.52 | DarkRevenant | ... |
| 23:29.44 | JademusSreg | I don't have the editor open at the moment, and I do not understand site ops very well. |
| 23:29.55 | JademusSreg | ProzaicMuse is the person to talk to about those. |
| 23:30.55 | JademusSreg | He has demonstrated extensive knowledge about data, and all actor-related subjects in particular. |
| 23:41.29 | AlphA_VsT | is it possible to get the distance between two poitns on a plane? |
| 23:41.35 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 23:41.52 | AlphA_VsT | all i see is distance between point |
| 23:41.53 | JademusSreg | DistanceBetweenPoints(point a, point b); |
| 23:42.44 | AlphA_VsT | how would i just get the x from that though |
| 23:42.59 | JademusSreg | Get the x from what? |
| 23:43.28 | JademusSreg | PointGetX |
| 23:43.48 | Mephs | streaming data editor fanciness: http://www.livestream.com/mephssc |
| 23:44.09 | AlphA_VsT | i just want the x from distance between points |
| 23:44.39 | JademusSreg | You want the difference. |
| 23:45.00 | Mexa | http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-your-own-Portal-Sentry-Turret-Egg-Cup/ |
| 23:45.05 | JademusSreg | PointGetX(pointA) - PointGetX(pointB) |
| 23:45.05 | Mexa | Lol, I should get one |
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| 23:45.25 | Mexa | And by that |
| 23:45.32 | Mexa | I leave for some good old sleep |
| 23:45.35 | Mexa | Seeya! |
| 23:45.37 | JademusSreg | Later,. |
| 23:46.40 | AlphA_VsT | i get it |
| 23:46.46 | Zyff | Goodnight all of you |
| 23:46.48 | AlphA_VsT | i just have to do lots of steps |
| 23:46.54 | Mexa | ohnight |
| 23:47.26 | Mexa | Hey Jademus? |
| 23:47.37 | Mexa | Do you remember Mad Balls Arena on wc3? |
| 23:47.48 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 23:47.54 | Mexa | aw :v |
| 23:47.56 | JademusSreg | I remember Marbel Madness on the NES. |
| 23:48.01 | Mexa | lol |
| 23:48.03 | JademusSreg | Marble |
| 23:48.07 | Mexa | I'm sure you did |
| 23:48.20 | Mexa | oh well, nvm then |
| 23:56.10 | superdoug | photon cycles is cool |
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| 23:56.25 | superdoug | not bad its on page 3 in us region |
| 23:56.31 | JademusSreg | Thanks. |
| 23:56.37 | superdoug | tron remake |
| 23:56.39 | JademusSreg | Working on a huge update. |
| 23:56.52 | superdoug | nice to see it playing in sc2 |
| 23:57.20 | superdoug | i didnt know u could have flexible driving just by mouse movement |
| 23:57.43 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 23:57.48 | JademusSreg | Latency permitting. |
| 23:57.57 | JademusSreg | Poor latency will just get you killed. |
| 23:57.59 | superdoug | would be better with music too |
| 23:58.14 | JademusSreg | Music will be added when file size limits permit. |
| 23:58.29 | superdoug | and weapons maybe |
| 23:58.39 | superdoug | nm then its not tron |
| 23:58.40 | JademusSreg | Weapons in general will not ever be supported. |
| 23:58.56 | JademusSreg | There will be an option for a single charge disc weapon. |
| 23:59.00 | JademusSreg | Eventually. |
| 23:59.03 | JademusSreg | Not any time soon. |
| 23:59.14 | AlphA_VsT | YAY! so close |
| 23:59.32 | superdoug | in tron evolution it plays like that too |
| 23:59.43 | JademusSreg | Your driving is your weapon. |
| 23:59.46 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 23:59.55 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
