| 00:00.01 | AlphA_VsT | end of may? nda ends may 31? |
| 00:00.10 | Sixen | I go the end of may and then the nda breaks the end of may |
| 00:01.06 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 00:01.20 | AlphA_VsT | why wont anyone test my map :( |
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| 00:02.05 | UloseTheGame | You can't walk on water! |
| 00:04.22 | AlphA_VsT | JademusSreg, hurry your the only one who will test my map :( |
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| 00:08.25 | AlphA_VsT | Test map in NA really fast anyone? |
| 00:11.48 | AlphA_VsT | its been 40 min :( |
| 00:12.24 | UloseTheGame | sorry, doing Fun or Nots |
| 00:12.31 | UloseTheGame | Not... |
| 00:12.33 | UloseTheGame | Not.... |
| 00:12.36 | UloseTheGame | Not... |
| 00:12.38 | UloseTheGame | oooh Fun |
| 00:12.41 | UloseTheGame | oh wait...Not |
| 00:24.05 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 00:24.29 | JademusSreg | I'm not going to be free for at least 2 hours. |
| 00:25.06 | AlphA_VsT | FUCK |
| 00:33.55 | AlphA_VsT | 1 min of time :( |
| 00:43.33 | Ashamed | you want to see something really funny |
| 00:44.13 | Ashamed | i was having an aurgument on facebook........... and this is what someone said to me |
| 00:44.14 | Ashamed | "A fool finds no pleasure in understanding but delights in airing his own opinions" proverbs 18:2 |
| 00:44.19 | Ashamed | they didnt say why they said it |
| 00:44.23 | Ashamed | why they believed in it |
| 00:44.24 | Ashamed | nothing |
| 00:44.27 | Ashamed | just posted that scripter |
| 00:44.35 | Ashamed | and i was like... and what are you doing? |
| 00:46.40 | AlphA_VsT | uh huh |
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| 00:56.29 | Ashamed | just thought it was funny |
| 00:56.33 | Ashamed | that he would call himselve out |
| 00:56.44 | Ashamed | without actually thinking / realizing he was |
| 00:57.23 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 00:58.03 | AlphA_VsT | still looking for a single tester |
| 00:58.18 | Ashamed | i can when i get home |
| 00:58.24 | Ashamed | in like 1 1/2 :0 |
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| 01:20.43 | AlphA_VsT | weee |
| 01:22.20 | AlphA_VsT | still not a single tester |
| 01:27.17 | AlphA_VsT | RAGE |
| 01:28.33 | JademusSreg | i'M AVAILABLE. |
| 01:28.37 | JademusSreg | Oops./ |
| 01:28.49 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 01:29.01 | JademusSreg | For testing. |
| 01:29.20 | AlphA_VsT | then... |
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| 01:37.04 | Mexa|Homehome | wuh |
| 01:37.06 | Demalii | I'm trying to make an odin attack while moving, I've made his anti air missles to attack ground which works, made the movement on the weapon to moving, and disable the unit flags "attack target only" and "fire while attacking" any other ideas? |
| 01:37.11 | Mexa|Homehome | Portal 2 campaign and coop finished |
| 01:37.12 | Mexa|Homehome | :D |
| 01:37.40 | Demalii | was it worth 44 bucks? =) |
| 01:37.49 | Mexa|Homehome | I'd say, yes |
| 01:37.51 | Demalii | couldn't imagine paying to play coop |
| 01:38.07 | Mexa|Homehome | I was playing with my irl friend. |
| 01:38.11 | Mexa|Homehome | It was nice |
| 01:38.32 | AlphA_VsT | <3 JademusSreg |
| 01:38.41 | Mexa|Homehome | But that people claim thta the finished portal in under 4-5 hours is just bogus |
| 01:38.57 | Mexa|Homehome | The steamcounter was lying, and everybody raged because they thought they played a too short game <.< |
| 01:39.54 | Mexa|Homehome | But anyways, since you asked. Yeah, it's worth it |
| 01:39.58 | Mexa|Homehome | :> |
| 01:40.12 | Demalii | well i beat the single in about 3-4 hours |
| 01:40.32 | Mexa|Homehome | You did not |
| 01:40.32 | Demalii | and coop is just a short from what i've heard so i was trying to justify it anyways hehe |
| 01:40.33 | Mexa|Homehome | Trust me |
| 01:40.39 | Demalii | yea single player was so simple |
| 01:40.44 | Mexa|Homehome | you did not beat the portal 2 campaign in under 4 hours |
| 01:40.48 | Mexa|Homehome | Because it is impossible. |
| 01:40.49 | Demalii | yea i did haha |
| 01:40.52 | Mexa|Homehome | No |
| 01:40.52 | Skizot | steam lies. |
| 01:40.54 | Mexa|Homehome | You did not |
| 01:40.57 | Demalii | it's possible to complete in under 2 |
| 01:40.58 | superdoug | what are they gonna add in heart of the swarm? |
| 01:41.01 | Mexa|Homehome | No |
| 01:41.06 | Skizot | unless you mean on a second+ playthrough. |
| 01:41.06 | Mexa|Homehome | That's exactly what I said |
| 01:41.10 | Demalii | maybe not for you.. |
| 01:41.11 | Mexa|Homehome | Skizot |
| 01:41.15 | Mexa|Homehome | Seriously |
| 01:41.19 | Mexa|Homehome | Demalli |
| 01:41.21 | Mexa|Homehome | It is impossible |
| 01:41.31 | Mexa|Homehome | Even after several walks |
| 01:41.34 | Demalii | dude my girlfriend played through it in nearly the same amount |
| 01:41.50 | Mexa|Homehome | I will prove you why you are wrong |
| 01:41.55 | Demalii | lol |
| 01:42.04 | Demalii | you can' |
| 01:42.08 | Demalii | can't prove me wrong lol |
| 01:42.08 | Mexa|Homehome | Np |
| 01:42.08 | Skizot | contratulations on playing a simple video game mr. hawking. shouldn't you be SOLVING THE MYSTERIES OF TIME AND SPACE? |
| 01:42.13 | Mexa|Homehome | I can |
| 01:42.26 | Demalii | well good luck with that =) |
| 01:42.41 | Mexa|Homehome | You both have a bad perception of time |
| 01:42.54 | Demalii | are we talking about gametime including cutscenes? |
| 01:42.58 | Demalii | because without all that shit |
| 01:43.01 | Mexa|Homehome | Just because steam told you you played it for 4 hours doesn't actually mean you did |
| 01:43.23 | Demalii | uh |
| 01:43.39 | Demalii | steam doesn't show anything, because I didn't get suckered into buying the game lol |
| 01:44.18 | Demalii | and really, the game was easy, it was just like p1, same old shiz |
| 01:44.23 | Mexa|Homehome | Again |
| 01:44.25 | Mexa|Homehome | impossible |
| 01:44.39 | Mexa|Homehome | http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/04/20/portal-2-in-4-hours-the-steam-timer-is-a-lie/ |
| 01:44.41 | Demalii | you keep your head and opinions high haha |
| 01:44.45 | Mexa|Homehome | Demalli |
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| 01:44.55 | DarkRevenant | what's the max bank size limit? |
| 01:45.02 | Mexa|Homehome | It's as fake as you beating the game on 33min or 2 hours, as it was reported in |
| 01:45.03 | DarkRevenant | and does it depend on the # of players in the game? |
| 01:45.04 | Demalii | i'll be on later maybe someone can help me then |
| 01:45.07 | DarkRevenant | the 2nd question is the important one |
| 01:45.33 | AlphA_VsT | anyways |
| 01:45.40 | Mexa|Homehome | Though |
| 01:45.58 | Mexa|Homehome | If you did play it under 4 hours, if it now should be true, which I still don't |
| 01:46.05 | Mexa|Homehome | You missed alot of areas and content, |
| 01:46.23 | AlphA_VsT | you still beat it |
| 01:46.25 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 01:46.39 | Mexa|Homehome | I still don't believe it is possible |
| 01:46.56 | Demalii | dude, not everyone has a hard time with a game like p2 lol |
| 01:47.02 | Mexa|Homehome | Sigh |
| 01:47.10 | Mexa|Homehome | I did not have problem with portal 2 |
| 01:47.13 | Demalii | for many of us, it's quite natural to complete each stage in moments |
| 01:47.15 | Mexa|Homehome | I just say it is impossible |
| 01:47.33 | Demalii | and what is the obious reply? nothing's impossible |
| 01:47.35 | Mexa|Homehome | And until you can prove it, I rest my case |
| 01:47.36 | Demalii | obvious* |
| 01:47.39 | Mexa|Homehome | :3 |
| 01:47.52 | Demalii | I have nothing to prove haha |
| 01:48.03 | DarkRevenant | what's the max bank size limit? |
| 01:48.03 | Mexa|Homehome | I guess not |
| 01:48.04 | DarkRevenant | and does it depend on the # of players in the game? |
| 01:48.13 | Demalii | I beat the game so quick, it's nearly 4 times longer than p1, and p1 can be completed in about 30 minutes |
| 01:48.18 | Skizot | it's 6-7 hours first run. it can be brought down IMMENSLY. |
| 01:49.10 | Mexa|Homehome | If portal 1 was able to be beat in 30minutes |
| 01:49.17 | Demalii | 30 minutes x 4 |
| 01:49.18 | Mexa|Homehome | there would have been videos showing someone beating it |
| 01:49.23 | Mexa|Homehome | And I find nothing |
| 01:49.26 | Demalii | what |
| 01:49.30 | Demalii | who would even care? |
| 01:49.43 | Demalii | you're stressing out about something only you care about lol |
| 01:49.46 | Demalii | ok be back lol |
| 01:49.50 | Mexa|Homehome | what |
| 01:49.54 | Skizot | mexa, just ignore him. |
| 01:50.10 | Skizot | his idea of fun is "MUST FINISH FASTEST!" which is my he has no girlfriend XD |
| 01:50.26 | Mexa|Homehome | Though he said he had one |
| 01:50.27 | superdoug | is heart of the swarm coming out this year? |
| 01:50.28 | Mexa|Homehome | .- |
| 01:50.46 | superdoug | since the engine is done already sequels come out faster right? |
| 01:50.51 | Skizot | he meant to say "his sister" |
| 01:50.54 | Mexa|Homehome | I only heard they are gonna show some new stuff about hots next month |
| 01:51.14 | Mexa|Homehome | *HotS I guess |
| 01:51.15 | superdoug | how close is it being done? |
| 01:51.20 | Mexa|Homehome | Not sure |
| 01:51.21 | superdoug | 70% ? |
| 01:51.37 | Mexa|Homehome | There's no ofiicial date revealed |
| 01:52.00 | superdoug | sc2 engine is done |
| 01:52.07 | superdoug | they should have it out soon |
| 01:52.14 | superdoug | like... soon soon. |
| 01:52.42 | superdoug | especially if its 2 more campaigns |
| 01:54.35 | superdoug | they should be focusing on sc instead of d3 anyway |
| 01:54.53 | superdoug | d3 can wait til 2015 |
| 01:55.40 | Skizot | superdoug, you forget though. |
| 01:55.42 | AlphA_VsT | somone is going to Blizz hq to test Hots in may |
| 01:55.47 | AlphA_VsT | or play |
| 01:55.57 | Skizot | they have cinematics to do, cutom models to do, ingame cinematic to do. |
| 01:56.09 | Skizot | it's not just "LOL MAPS DONE WOOT" |
| 01:56.15 | Skizot | sixen is. |
| 01:56.24 | Sixen | no im not |
| 01:56.29 | Sixen | oh |
| 01:56.31 | Skizot | you said you were. |
| 01:56.35 | Sixen | I didn't even read, I was just messing around |
| 01:56.39 | Sixen | ya, i'm going to blizz hq to play hots |
| 01:56.41 | Sixen | end of may |
| 01:56.50 | Skizot | <@Sixen> I'm going to BlizzHQ to play Heart of the Swarm at the end of May |
| 01:56.50 | Skizot | <@Sixen> :) |
| 01:56.59 | superdoug | nice |
| 01:57.02 | Sixen | All I saw was, "sixen is." I was playing aorund :P |
| 01:57.07 | Sixen | yar |
| 01:57.11 | Skizot | :P |
| 01:57.23 | Skizot | it may not look like i'm here. but i usually am. |
| 01:57.28 | Skizot | too busy with portal 2 |
| 01:57.38 | Sixen | I went ... 4/19/10 for the WoL Press tour |
| 01:57.43 | Sixen | game was released in July.. |
| 01:57.51 | Sixen | So... ;O |
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| 01:58.14 | superdoug | how many new units are in hots? |
| 01:58.29 | Sixen | Dunno |
| 01:58.34 | Sixen | I don't play it until May :P |
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| 02:06.08 | Mexa|Homehome | I don't get some gamers though. If you spend more money on a game, wouldn't you mostly take your time to enjoy it |
| 02:06.16 | Mexa|Homehome | Instead of speedrunning it at whole? |
| 02:06.25 | Mexa|Homehome | Speaking of nothing, really |
| 02:06.43 | Mexa|Homehome | If you are one of those, tell me why:P |
| 02:07.34 | superdoug | like all the games i buy for $60 either for console or pc they play for a month or two the most |
| 02:07.48 | superdoug | and i trade it in at gamestop or w/e |
| 02:08.26 | superdoug | but blizzards games are ones i hold on to longest so it goes on and off |
| 02:09.01 | Mexa|Homehome | a month or two is still a pretty long time |
| 02:09.03 | superdoug | and after skimming through it u can always go back later after finishing other games |
| 02:09.38 | superdoug | for sc2 though blizzard expects players to keep it for many years |
| 02:10.18 | Mexa|Homehome | yeah |
| 02:10.33 | Mexa|Homehome | well, it's going over with esports in korea and on more and mroe places |
| 02:10.39 | Mexa|Homehome | It will probably last for a while |
| 02:10.50 | superdoug | for the portrait achievements the hybrid destroyer portrait is 1k wins for each race |
| 02:11.04 | superdoug | to get it |
| 02:11.47 | Mexa|Homehome | mm, yeah |
| 02:12.28 | superdoug | the infested kerrigan portrait takes 1k wins by using zerg too |
| 02:13.51 | Mexa|Homehome | Maybe I should just stick to custom games... |
| 02:14.04 | Mexa|Homehome | My micro and macro is truly horrible |
| 02:15.55 | superdoug | frozen throne was a different game than realms of chaos right? |
| 02:17.46 | Mexa|Homehome | Well |
| 02:17.53 | Mexa|Homehome | Pretty much |
| 02:18.19 | Mexa|Homehome | RoC was capable as exactly the same and TFT after a few patches |
| 02:18.42 | Sixen | Reign of Chaos* |
| 02:18.47 | Mexa|Homehome | It is the same engine |
| 02:18.59 | Sixen | TFT was just an expansion to RoC |
| 02:19.04 | Mexa|Homehome | Yeah |
| 02:19.07 | Sixen | Much like LotV and HotS are expo's for WoL |
| 02:19.14 | Mexa|Homehome | Though, TFT added extra editor features |
| 02:19.18 | Sixen | It did |
| 02:19.24 | Sixen | And HotS will have more GE features |
| 02:19.27 | Sixen | And i'm sure LotV will as well |
| 02:19.32 | Mexa|Homehome | Are you sure |
| 02:19.36 | Sixen | Positive ;) |
| 02:20.09 | Mexa|Homehome | That sounds very stupid, considering you back then could use the TFT editor to include all extra features and save it as a RoC map. |
| 02:20.38 | Sixen | I'm sure SC2 will be the same way |
| 02:20.49 | Mexa|Homehome | Why have separate editors :/ |
| 02:20.55 | Sixen | there won't be separate editors? |
| 02:20.58 | Sixen | who said that |
| 02:21.44 | Mexa|Homehome | My point being is that those who not have the expansions should still have the new features implemented as the same as the expansion editors |
| 02:21.55 | Sixen | Who said they wouldn't? o_O |
| 02:22.19 | Mexa|Homehome | I was just assuming wrong what you said then |
| 02:22.28 | Sixen | it's just a patch |
| 02:22.42 | Mexa|Homehome | What is |
| 02:23.03 | Sixen | they'll just release a patch for any features |
| 02:23.10 | Mexa|Homehome | Hope so |
| 02:23.23 | Sixen | They have to, haha. |
| 02:23.33 | Sixen | If there is no 2.0 patch, people who don't buy HotS won't be able to connect to Bnet |
| 02:23.35 | Mexa|Homehome | They never really improved the RoC editor |
| 02:23.39 | Mexa|Homehome | that's my point |
| 02:23.47 | Sixen | they didn't? I didn't know that |
| 02:23.54 | Mexa|Homehome | So I hope they improve everything while they're at it adding expansions |
| 02:24.05 | Mexa|Homehome | Even for the vanilla |
| 02:24.08 | Sixen | They will be improving GE, I can 100% tell you that |
| 02:24.08 | Mexa|Homehome | eg WoL |
| 02:24.14 | Mexa|Homehome | Alright |
| 02:24.14 | Sixen | I can't imagine that won't be the case |
| 02:24.30 | Mexa|Homehome | If they learn somewhat from their past mistakes. |
| 02:24.51 | Mexa|Homehome | Yeah, nevermind |
| 02:24.53 | Dustin | They will |
| 02:25.11 | Dustin | And Im sure the fixed will be retroactive for WoL |
| 02:25.26 | Sixen | mhmm |
| 02:25.33 | Mexa|Homehome | retroactive? |
| 02:25.53 | Sixen | it'll patch WoL |
| 02:26.13 | Mexa|Homehome | yeeah, ok |
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| 02:26.42 | Mexa|Homehome | Anyways, no need to worry about it now anyway |
| 02:27.00 | Mexa|Homehome | I should go to bed. I can tell that by my writing. |
| 02:27.01 | Sixen | Zoxc-, Launcher source u gieb? |
| 02:27.06 | Mexa|Homehome | Seeya people. |
| 02:27.10 | Sixen | Adios Mexa |
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| 02:30.48 | FockeWulf | Howdy all, I've got a real pickle here. I've looked at guides, played with it for days on end, and yet I still cannot get a weapon fire animation (such as a ghost attack or muzzel flash) to fire from an attached model and not the core unit actor. I'm very sure I'm doing something wrong here but I can |
| 02:31.13 | FockeWulf | Howdy all, I've got a real pickle here. I've looked at guides, played with it for days on end, and yet I still cannot get a weapon fire animation (such as a ghost attack or muzzel flash) to fire from an attached model and not the core unit actor. I'm very sure I'm doing something wrong here but I can't for the life of me figure out what it is. Can anybody help me here please? |
| 02:31.25 | FockeWulf | stupid enter key >.> |
| 02:32.38 | AlphA_VsT | :D no idea |
| 02:34.12 | Dustin | Site Ops I think |
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| 02:48.36 | Mexa|Sleep | duur <.< |
| 02:51.58 | FockeWulf | Site ops aint working >.< |
| 02:53.43 | JademusSreg | Looks like I missed a bunch of stuff. Anything good? |
| 02:58.51 | Mexa|Sleep | I was ranting abit. You didn't miss anything |
| 02:59.36 | Mexa|Sleep | And then my computer decided to takea nap, but something might have happend in the mean time |
| 02:59.40 | Mexa|Sleep | oh well |
| 03:01.25 | JademusSreg | Heh. |
| 03:01.56 | Mexa|Sleep | goodnight again |
| 03:02.03 | Mexa|Sleep | Firever and ever and ever. |
| 03:02.06 | Mexa|Sleep | *o |
| 03:07.17 | FockeWulf | [19:31] <FockeWulf> Howdy all, I've got a real pickle here. I've looked at guides, played with it for days on end, and yet I still cannot get a weapon fire animation (such as a ghost attack or muzzel flash) to fire from an attached model and not the core unit actor. I'm very sure I'm doing something wrong here but I can't for the life of me figure out what it is. Can anybody help me here please? |
| 03:09.21 | FockeWulf | Ok lets ask this: Does anyone know where i can get help for this? |
| 03:09.23 | JademusSreg | Tell me the names of the actors you have for the custom ghost. |
| 03:09.47 | FockeWulf | sames? |
| 03:09.49 | FockeWulf | names? |
| 03:09.57 | FockeWulf | you what what kind of actors? |
| 03:10.10 | JademusSreg | I need to know which ones you have so far. |
| 03:10.15 | FockeWulf | ok |
| 03:10.38 | FockeWulf | well this is a converted wow model but i also have the naval ships with the same problem (basically anything I do with an attached turret has this issue) |
| 03:10.41 | FockeWulf | ok let see |
| 03:11.01 | FockeWulf | I have the actor type unit (generic unit base) |
| 03:11.19 | FockeWulf | I have 2 model (model additions) |
| 03:11.28 | FockeWulf | so thats a horse units, a human to ride it, and a rifle for him |
| 03:11.46 | JademusSreg | Anything else? |
| 03:11.55 | FockeWulf | the attack actor is the same as the ghosts with a nearly identical duplicated weapon effect and weapon |
| 03:12.19 | JademusSreg | Did you change the tokens and references? |
| 03:12.29 | FockeWulf | and theres a site opperation with the host set as the gun model with a siteop attach hardpoint (the only attachemnt on that model when i checked the model viewer) |
| 03:12.35 | FockeWulf | Tokens are all set |
| 03:12.45 | FockeWulf | the "references" im not sure what your talking about |
| 03:13.10 | JademusSreg | Sometimes changing a token doesn't change the references. |
| 03:13.19 | JademusSreg | Becuase the editor is silly. |
| 03:13.32 | FockeWulf | oh wait you mean the links in the events+ ? |
| 03:13.38 | FockeWulf | oh ya i set those manually anyways |
| 03:13.48 | JademusSreg | Such funny terms, but yes. |
| 03:14.00 | JademusSreg | "links"m, least helpful term ever. =) |
| 03:14.10 | FockeWulf | >.> |
| 03:14.14 | FockeWulf | anyways, those are all set up |
| 03:14.17 | FockeWulf | i can see teh fire animation |
| 03:14.38 | FockeWulf | its at the horse's (or core unit actor) origon or where its location is on the ground. |
| 03:14.56 | FockeWulf | origin* |
| 03:14.58 | FockeWulf | gah i cant spell |
| 03:16.04 | FockeWulf | I've played around with host supporter, lauch sites, heck even just doing it via the model and the site ops on the attack actor |
| 03:16.15 | JademusSreg | CnP the attack Action actor. |
| 03:16.17 | FockeWulf | theres like 3 guides i've read that go over this |
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| 03:16.27 | FockeWulf | how do i make it into a text format? |
| 03:16.28 | JademusSreg | Or the comparable actor for your purposes. |
| 03:16.39 | JademusSreg | Table mode. |
| 03:16.47 | FockeWulf | kk 1 sec |
| 03:17.02 | JademusSreg | And highlight, right click, Copy as Text, pastebin. |
| 03:18.43 | FockeWulf | http://pastebin.com/XT48uCgZ |
| 03:19.06 | JademusSreg | That's not a ghost. D= |
| 03:19.10 | JademusSreg | Ah well. |
| 03:20.23 | FockeWulf | turret rotates to fire in the direction and all |
| 03:20.40 | FockeWulf | heck i've even found out how (didnt apply it to all) to make it so the turrets will recoil when they fire |
| 03:20.42 | FockeWulf | it looks great |
| 03:20.45 | FockeWulf | save that one issue |
| 03:20.52 | FockeWulf | and its the same issue on all the models i attach |
| 03:21.40 | Dustin | Why wont my Set height actor message work :( |
| 03:21.56 | JademusSreg | Can't set negative height. |
| 03:22.23 | Dustin | It's posative |
| 03:22.34 | FockeWulf | ya i found that out when i made my submarine submergable |
| 03:22.41 | JademusSreg | Then I have no idea, Dustin. |
| 03:24.20 | FockeWulf | Anyways Jade, have you manage to spot the issue yet? Or are you still working on it? |
| 03:25.14 | JademusSreg | Did you know your event references the wrong id? |
| 03:25.24 | JademusSreg | (Effect.CrucioShockCannonBlastBB1.Start):():(Create) |
| 03:26.08 | Dustin | Hmm, my height sets, but immediatley goes back to the ground |
| 03:26.09 | FockeWulf | oh no it doesn't |
| 03:26.36 | FockeWulf | the battleship has 4 weapons with the same effect |
| 03:26.42 | FockeWulf | but i split em up on the light cruiser |
| 03:26.45 | AlphA_VsT | how do i remove error messages |
| 03:26.46 | FockeWulf | and it didn't fix it |
| 03:26.50 | FockeWulf | so i doubt thats the issue |
| 03:26.57 | FockeWulf | for what alpha? |
| 03:27.00 | JademusSreg | But it says BB1, but the top of your pastebin says BB2 |
| 03:27.06 | JademusSreg | Alph, fix the bugs. |
| 03:27.12 | AlphA_VsT | I am |
| 03:27.14 | JademusSreg | That makes them go away. |
| 03:27.17 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 03:27.19 | AlphA_VsT | for cooldowns |
| 03:27.24 | JademusSreg | Oh. |
| 03:27.54 | AlphA_VsT | i put a slight delay on the move it looks cool now also |
| 03:28.08 | AlphA_VsT | but its erroring out :P |
| 03:28.29 | FockeWulf | "supress creation errors" ? |
| 03:28.35 | FockeWulf | thats for actors but it works |
| 03:28.47 | JademusSreg | Or remove the cooldown. |
| 03:28.58 | JademusSreg | Or change the message in the GameStrings |
| 03:29.29 | JademusSreg | Or see if it can be overridden in Game UI data. |
| 03:30.15 | FockeWulf | Have you found an issue yet Jade? |
| 03:30.28 | SentryIII | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCrbv81SBHg |
| 03:30.31 | JademusSreg | Looking, but nothing stands out, sorry. |
| 03:30.49 | SentryIII | I am now hungry. |
| 03:31.54 | FockeWulf | So yet another method blizzfail has to screw me in the ass >.< The cute part is that i found out that the animations are actually spawned in the effect |
| 03:32.10 | FockeWulf | unfortunatly i either am linking the effect to the actor wrong, or it just won't work period |
| 03:32.30 | AlphA_VsT | thats so gross |
| 03:32.33 | FockeWulf | I've tried hosted attachment, supporter, guides... not sure what else >.> |
| 03:33.38 | FockeWulf | If blizzard would give full refunds and take the game back... I just might do it. The only reason im making maps is cause its fun and I want my money's worth. |
| 03:36.58 | FockeWulf | And its starting to look like no one has the answer im looking for. |
| 03:37.16 | FockeWulf | Does anyone know how to get in contact with a blizzard dev that would know? |
| 03:37.44 | JademusSreg | What is the id for Siege Tank Sieged Attack BB2? |
| 03:38.23 | JademusSreg | Or whatever effect it is supposed to be referencing. |
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| 03:40.04 | JademusSreg | Damn, I'm stumped. |
| 03:44.37 | AlphA_VsT | no idea |
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| 03:51.39 | AlphA_VsT | ok got it lol |
| 03:51.53 | AlphA_VsT | disable generic ui sound and remove teh error text |
| 03:51.55 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 03:52.35 | FockeWulf | ? |
| 03:52.36 | FockeWulf | what is the id? |
| 03:53.56 | AlphA_VsT | id of what |
| 03:54.53 | FockeWulf | I'm not sure as to what you mean by "ID"? |
| 03:54.57 | FockeWulf | oh wait |
| 03:55.55 | FockeWulf | http://pastebin.com/9vw22XTL |
| 03:55.57 | FockeWulf | thats the effect |
| 04:01.48 | SoulTaker_ | jade |
| 04:01.50 | SoulTaker_ | XD |
| 04:03.22 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 04:08.09 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 04:09.58 | AlphA_VsT | wtf |
| 04:12.18 | AlphA_VsT | how can you get the stage of an ability? |
| 04:13.11 | AlphA_VsT | ive gone trough the list of (Triggering ability stage) == "Stage" |
| 04:13.20 | AlphA_VsT | and its not outputing any message :( |
| 04:13.54 | JademusSreg | "Stage" isn't a valid stage. |
| 04:16.15 | AlphA_VsT | i know |
| 04:16.26 | AlphA_VsT | i was putting a generalized thing |
| 04:16.36 | AlphA_VsT | ive picked every single one |
| 04:16.42 | AlphA_VsT | and its not saying |
| 04:16.53 | AlphA_VsT | shit |
| 04:17.42 | JademusSreg | What's the event? |
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| 04:27.04 | Demalii | Anyone know how to make a unit attack while moving? |
| 04:28.11 | JademusSreg | Allow Movement and/or Transient flags. |
| 04:28.16 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:28.32 | Demalii | I did that and unchecked the fire at target |
| 04:28.48 | Demalii | and only while attacking |
| 04:29.59 | JademusSreg | Alph, dunno what the problem is. Weird. |
| 04:30.18 | AlphA_VsT | i every tried any stage |
| 04:30.37 | AlphA_VsT | i even just said to make a text message |
| 04:30.41 | JademusSreg | Generic1? |
| 04:30.44 | AlphA_VsT | it didnt happen |
| 04:30.46 | Demalii | ignore shared abilites? |
| 04:31.30 | AlphA_VsT | i have no idea JademusSreg i must be doing soemthing wrong |
| 04:31.35 | Demalii | if you're telling it to look for unit using snipe, on any stage (ignore shared) |
| 04:32.10 | AlphA_VsT | yeah? |
| 04:32.32 | Demalii | snipe is shared perhaps? |
| 04:32.38 | AlphA_VsT | wtf does ignore shared mean? |
| 04:33.01 | Demalii | ignore shared abilities... |
| 04:33.10 | AlphA_VsT | wtf does that mean |
| 04:33.11 | JademusSreg | Naw, not the problem. |
| 04:33.15 | Demalii | ok |
| 04:33.16 | AlphA_VsT | i know what it says |
| 04:33.39 | JademusSreg | I'd need to see more to figure it out, but I'm tired. |
| 04:34.13 | JademusSreg | Anyway, it should be firing 6 times. |
| 04:34.32 | JademusSreg | Pastebin the whole trigger. |
| 04:34.47 | AlphA_VsT | i think i found the problem :D |
| 04:35.46 | AlphA_VsT | some times i dont even know |
| 04:38.08 | AlphA_VsT | i had teh trigger disabled :D |
| 04:39.00 | JademusSreg | I thought it might be something like that, but didn't want to insult your intelligence. =D |
| 04:40.13 | AlphA_VsT | its ok i dont even know how i do some of these thigns i do haha |
| 04:40.24 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 04:41.14 | AlphA_VsT | what stage is it when you are finding a target? |
| 04:42.09 | JademusSreg | You mean when it is ordered? |
| 04:42.17 | JademusSreg | Or before? |
| 04:42.29 | AlphA_VsT | before |
| 04:42.34 | AlphA_VsT | when you can cancel |
| 04:42.50 | JademusSreg | I think it's Preempt |
| 04:42.51 | AlphA_VsT | i dont think anything gets called :( |
| 04:43.53 | AlphA_VsT | you would think |
| 04:43.54 | AlphA_VsT | :P |
| 04:44.05 | JademusSreg | I would think what? |
| 04:45.20 | Demalii | so if i've done the allow movement to moving, unchecked fire only at target and fire only while attacking, it should attack while moving right? |
| 04:45.24 | AlphA_VsT | that it was preepmt haha but its not |
| 04:46.08 | AlphA_VsT | preempt does nothing |
| 04:46.19 | AlphA_VsT | prep only after tis used |
| 04:46.56 | JademusSreg | Dunno, Dema. There are unit examples like the Phoenix and Diamondback, for reference. |
| 04:47.18 | JademusSreg | I'll be more helpful after I've hadf some rest. |
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| 04:49.37 | AlphA_VsT | lol yeah its not possible to get |
| 04:49.43 | AlphA_VsT | its not sending any info |
| 04:49.57 | AlphA_VsT | until you actually target soemthing |
| 04:50.14 | JademusSreg | Ah well./ |
| 04:50.21 | JademusSreg | That makes sense, I suppose. |
| 04:57.30 | AlphA_VsT | yeah it does |
| 04:57.38 | AlphA_VsT | good to know though |
| 05:15.53 | AlphA_VsT | rawr |
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| 06:35.37 | Deaod | im gonna kill Blizzard |
| 06:35.59 | Deaod | one of these days ... |
| 06:37.41 | Deaod | if(A==B) return true; |
| 06:37.45 | Deaod | this throws an error |
| 06:38.05 | Deaod | if(A==B) { return true; } |
| 06:38.05 | Deaod | else return false; |
| 06:38.08 | Deaod | this does as well |
| 06:38.55 | Deaod | if(A==B) { return true; } |
| 06:38.56 | Deaod | else if (A!=B) { return false; } |
| 06:38.57 | Deaod | this doesnt |
| 06:40.55 | Deaod | its funny because disabling all this actually is more difficult, or at least requires additional work |
| 07:01.46 | Dogmai | ~seen helral|afk |
| 07:01.52 | purl | helral|afk is currently on #sc2mapster (10h 1m 59s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 8h 28m 15s, last said: 'nn all'. |
| 07:02.14 | Dogmai | eight and a half hours, he should be awake |
| 07:02.20 | Dogmai | ~wake up helral |
| 07:02.20 | purl | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up helral and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 07:05.03 | Demalii | guys, i can't seem to make a unit attack while moving, i've tried many things, 2 weapon options unticked and allow movement.. |
| 07:05.18 | Demalii | any ideas? |
| 07:05.41 | Deaod | unsurprisingly not. |
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| 07:40.37 | blub_ | mornin |
| 07:40.56 | Deaod | hi |
| 07:42.15 | blub_ | mhh, portal or gemcraft map ^^ |
| 07:47.23 | superdoug | how about an original map |
| 07:47.48 | blub_ | such a thing doesn't exist :P |
| 07:48.05 | superdoug | any map that isnt a remake |
| 07:48.06 | blub_ | and needs much more creativity |
| 07:48.27 | superdoug | not a remake |
| 07:48.29 | blub_ | superdoug: tell me one example :P |
| 07:48.49 | blub_ | you're already ruling out all variations of towerdefense maps |
| 07:48.54 | superdoug | could be anything that has not been done before |
| 07:49.52 | Deaod | thats hard to do |
| 07:50.00 | superdoug | most of the popular maps on the list right now are just there |
| 07:50.15 | superdoug | and are from warcraft 3 and sc1 |
| 07:50.21 | superdoug | theres no originality in them |
| 07:50.37 | blub_ | superdoug: well, then make something new |
| 07:50.52 | blub_ | my mind isn't made to create new ideas of that kind |
| 07:51.02 | blub_ | I'm a programmer :P |
| 07:51.15 | blub_ | I solve things :P |
| 07:55.46 | superdoug | aiur chef is new isnt it? |
| 07:56.15 | blub_ | never played it |
| 07:56.19 | blub_ | what is it? |
| 07:56.46 | superdoug | youre a cook and u run around collecting ingredients |
| 07:57.06 | blub_ | that's only a new context |
| 07:57.11 | blub_ | for something old :P |
| 07:57.36 | superdoug | what game used it before? |
| 07:58.41 | blub_ | does it count if I say "RPGs constantly send you collect stuff" :P |
| 07:59.20 | superdoug | oh yeah like in zelda they send u on missions like that too |
| 08:01.37 | blub_ | from the looks of the screenshot I'd say it's the first quest in gothic 2 XD |
| 08:02.39 | superdoug | the sc2 editor shouldnt be to remake games with |
| 08:03.14 | superdoug | at blizzcon it was to "explore new possibilities" |
| 08:03.20 | blub_ | why not? |
| 08:03.24 | blub_ | I mean |
| 08:03.34 | blub_ | puzzle games can always be fun |
| 08:03.47 | superdoug | its supposed to be powerful and do things u couldnt before |
| 08:03.51 | blub_ | and "portal" is probably one of the lesser often used ideas |
| 08:03.54 | Deaod | exploring possibilities comes after exploring what one can and cant do with the editor. |
| 08:04.07 | blub_ | +1 for Deaod :P |
| 08:04.11 | blub_ | I'm still learning stuff in the editor |
| 08:04.17 | blub_ | got to use siteops yesterday ^^ |
| 08:04.41 | superdoug | i thought theres nothing u cant do with the editor |
| 08:04.48 | Deaod | you wish. |
| 08:04.50 | blub_ | lol |
| 08:05.00 | blub_ | there are quite a few SIMPLE things you can't do :D |
| 08:05.27 | superdoug | in galaxy? |
| 08:05.31 | blub_ | yes |
| 08:05.35 | blub_ | eg.: |
| 08:05.37 | blub_ | 1) setting the mousecursor <- that would allow for many more things, including new types of abilities supported by triggers |
| 08:05.47 | blub_ | like, you could make a type of ability that requires a target point and a direction |
| 08:06.07 | blub_ | by setting the mousecursor accordingly, and after chosing the direction, execute the effect of the ability |
| 08:07.10 | Deaod | also, SC2 still isnt a 3D game. |
| 08:07.19 | blub_ | and an actor event that triggers a trigger <- that would allow for quite a lot more too |
| 08:08.25 | blub_ | 3) more control over the inventory, or idea (1) so one can have a proper inventory, where you can easily modify the button for an item - adding color, text etc... |
| 08:08.46 | blub_ | simple but powerful :P |
| 08:08.48 | Deaod | id like to have a decent scripting language first. |
| 08:08.56 | Deaod | not this galaxy crap. |
| 08:09.01 | blub_ | it's not that bad |
| 08:09.08 | Deaod | oh, really? |
| 08:09.24 | blub_ | only if the only othe rlanguages you know are java or higher-level "crap" :D |
| 08:09.57 | Deaod | i dont mind the missing OO |
| 08:10.14 | Deaod | i mind the stupid fucking mistakes blizzard made when designing the language |
| 08:10.18 | Deaod | and its VM |
| 08:10.22 | blub_ | sure, some simple concepts are missing, but they can be implemented manually... sometimes... |
| 08:10.35 | blub_ | Deaod: like what? |
| 08:11.10 | Deaod | structs declarations HAVE to end with a semicolon |
| 08:11.44 | Deaod | giving static the meaning of private |
| 08:12.03 | blub_ | superdoug: just to conclude your previous suggestion: there are hardly any original *games* out there, so original *maps for games* are even rarer :P |
| 08:12.13 | Deaod | supporting the use of unused variable types |
| 08:12.16 | Deaod | like char |
| 08:12.20 | superdoug | theyll be out in time |
| 08:12.38 | Deaod | hell, theres even syntax for char values |
| 08:12.47 | blub_ | hm |
| 08:13.06 | Deaod | but char is not used ANYWHERE |
| 08:13.11 | blub_ | no a_string[x] possible? |
| 08:13.16 | blub_ | I never cared to try... |
| 08:13.34 | Deaod | there are no natives that take a char value |
| 08:13.45 | blub_ | so use it as integer |
| 08:13.48 | Deaod | cant |
| 08:13.52 | blub_ | you need to support non-ascii anyway |
| 08:13.53 | blub_ | :P |
| 08:14.04 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot2011-04-22%2010_09_45.jpg |
| 08:14.10 | Deaod | char cant be converted to or from |
| 08:14.25 | Deaod | afaik |
| 08:14.26 | blub_ | I think the portal models JademusSreg suggested look neat now, and the arrows to indicate their direction are okay too I think :) |
| 08:14.40 | blub_ | let me guess, you get an "implicit cast not allowed" error |
| 08:14.48 | blub_ | RIGHT |
| 08:14.57 | blub_ | someone here once asked if there was any other error beside "syntax error" |
| 08:15.06 | blub_ | and I didn't manage to remember the implicit cast error ^^ |
| 08:15.22 | Deaod | oh, right |
| 08:15.35 | Deaod | no integer constants greater than 0x7FFFFFFF |
| 08:15.46 | Deaod | numeric overflow |
| 08:15.47 | blub_ | char x = 3; |
| 08:15.50 | blub_ | implicit cast not allowed |
| 08:15.52 | blub_ | I knew it |
| 08:16.04 | blub_ | Deaod: that's because they're 32 bit :) |
| 08:16.08 | Deaod | NO |
| 08:16.12 | Deaod | FFS |
| 08:16.14 | blub_ | oh wait |
| 08:16.27 | blub_ | no, what? |
| 08:16.47 | Deaod | 0x80000000 is the 32nd bit |
| 08:16.53 | blub_ | so? |
| 08:17.00 | Deaod | ie the smalles integer number |
| 08:17.03 | Deaod | smallest |
| 08:17.05 | blub_ | yes |
| 08:17.12 | blub_ | so? |
| 08:17.17 | blub_ | 7fffffff is the highest one |
| 08:17.41 | Deaod | well, if you want to work with binary operators, you may have a use for the 32nd bit |
| 08:18.00 | Deaod | especially when you want to use it together with the other bits |
| 08:18.52 | blub_ | you mean if you want to use bitmasks? |
| 08:18.53 | Deaod | and lets face it, hexadecimal notation works best when dealing with binary operators |
| 08:19.00 | Deaod | yes |
| 08:19.07 | Deaod | or octal |
| 08:19.09 | blub_ | so? |
| 08:19.15 | Deaod | hell theres octal notation |
| 08:19.19 | blub_ | if they were 64 bit integers you'd be complaining about only having 63 bits |
| 08:19.24 | Deaod | yes |
| 08:19.32 | Deaod | its a stupid limitation |
| 08:19.34 | blub_ | there's no unsigned integer, so? |
| 08:19.38 | blub_ | why? |
| 08:19.42 | blub_ | if you need more, use an array of multiple integers |
| 08:19.57 | blub_ | if they were unsigned 32 bit integers you'd complain about not having 64 bit integers, or 128 :P |
| 08:20.01 | blub_ | use an array of bools :P |
| 08:20.02 | Deaod | i mean, yes, its a numeric overflow |
| 08:20.20 | Deaod | but it was meant to be one |
| 08:20.39 | blub_ | that's not a "limitation" you can complain about |
| 08:20.40 | blub_ | it's silly |
| 08:20.57 | blub_ | rant about java not having unsigned integer types... |
| 08:21.20 | Deaod | galaxy doesnt have them either |
| 08:21.26 | Deaod | although it has much bigger problems |
| 08:21.31 | Deaod | anyway |
| 08:21.41 | blub_ | get to the bigger problems then already :P |
| 08:21.54 | Deaod | SC2s VM parses the numeric overflow thingies correctly |
| 08:21.58 | Deaod | and is able to use them |
| 08:22.14 | Deaod | so i really dont see the point in throwing an error in the users face |
| 08:22.30 | blub_ | guess you have to type -2147483648 instead XD |
| 08:22.43 | Deaod | kind of pointless |
| 08:23.06 | Deaod | and fucking irritating when dealing with bitwise operators |
| 08:23.38 | Deaod | the VM only has 2MB of space for globals and locals |
| 08:23.52 | Deaod | oh, no dynamic allocation of structs |
| 08:23.58 | Deaod | there |
| 08:24.21 | Deaod | and so theres no passing around of structs and arrays |
| 08:24.29 | Deaod | then again |
| 08:24.55 | Deaod | void TestFunc(int[1] a); is valid |
| 08:25.00 | blub_ | right |
| 08:25.08 | blub_ | also declaring int[5] foo(); works |
| 08:25.15 | blub_ | but not returning from inside the function |
| 08:25.19 | Deaod | really? |
| 08:25.23 | Deaod | oh well |
| 08:25.38 | blub_ | forgot about that |
| 08:25.39 | Deaod | or structs with only one variable as content |
| 08:26.11 | blub_ | well, I'd like pointers in the language, and explicit casts for them, then they wouldn't even need to care about how to implement passing structs :P |
| 08:26.14 | blub_ | you could just pass a pointer to it |
| 08:26.15 | blub_ | =) |
| 08:26.27 | Deaod | int A=5--4; throws an error |
| 08:26.33 | blub_ | of course |
| 08:26.35 | Deaod | -- is unsupported |
| 08:26.45 | blub_ | they see "--" as the -- operator :) |
| 08:26.54 | Deaod | nevermind that this is actually valid code |
| 08:26.59 | Deaod | and valid use of -- |
| 08:27.07 | blub_ | much like C++ before c++0x doesn't allow template<blah<x>> |
| 08:27.13 | blub_ | but you must use template<blah<x> > |
| 08:27.20 | blub_ | well, one space, but I wanted to show the exact problem =) |
| 08:27.24 | blub_ | bcause >> is an operator |
| 08:27.39 | blub_ | Deaod: not valid use of the "--" as a unary operator though |
| 08:27.47 | blub_ | the construct then lacks a binary operator between 5 and 4 |
| 08:27.58 | blub_ | and if the parser recognizes -- as unary operator |
| 08:28.05 | blub_ | ... :) you get it |
| 08:28.05 | Deaod | it shouldnt |
| 08:28.14 | blub_ | well, it shouldn't, yes |
| 08:28.32 | blub_ | but that's a minor problem compared to structs or int[5] foo() { return x; } erroring on the return statement :P |
| 08:28.33 | Deaod | because if you put a space between the minuses it works |
| 08:29.02 | Deaod | which tells me they simply go through the whole file and do a string check |
| 08:29.09 | blub_ | but I get that they don't want to put that much work into the compiler |
| 08:29.20 | Deaod | pfff. |
| 08:29.22 | blub_ | because they have game to make as their... main ... project :) |
| 08:29.34 | Deaod | they had the time to make a decent parser |
| 08:29.38 | Deaod | or compiler |
| 08:29.40 | Deaod | whatever |
| 08:29.49 | blub_ | Deaod: which can be automated nowadays |
| 08:29.59 | blub_ | if you use like... flex and bison |
| 08:30.07 | Deaod | also, what keeps them from reusing a scripting language that already has a decent parser |
| 08:30.08 | blub_ | for example |
| 08:30.10 | Deaod | like LUA |
| 08:30.14 | blub_ | then you just need to write down the language definition |
| 08:30.30 | Deaod | or hell, they couldve implemented a stripped down version of the JavaVM |
| 08:30.31 | blub_ | Deaod: I like to answer "speed"! |
| 08:30.38 | Deaod | HAH |
| 08:30.40 | blub_ | but they didn't even care about the stuff that requires speed |
| 08:30.40 | Deaod | SPEED |
| 08:30.47 | blub_ | like, in QC you have direct access to entity data |
| 08:30.54 | blub_ | Deaod: yes, speed |
| 08:31.03 | Deaod | galaxy is like 5 times slower than Ruby |
| 08:31.18 | blub_ | well I don't know how it works internally |
| 08:31.28 | blub_ | but I can tell you, I'd use QC over lua or ruby :P |
| 08:31.37 | blub_ | there I know how it works |
| 08:31.40 | blub_ | and it can be integrated much better |
| 08:31.46 | Deaod | i dont care what they use |
| 08:31.47 | blub_ | into the games data structures |
| 08:31.59 | blub_ | lua, ruby, python... are all kind of annoying when it comes to games |
| 08:32.06 | Deaod | i just want them to stop reinventing the damn wheel and use something that works decently enough |
| 08:32.17 | blub_ | point is, unless you ever tried to make a game yourself you cannot complain about that choice :P |
| 08:32.23 | Deaod | i mean, Blizzard already used LUA for WoW |
| 08:32.31 | blub_ | a manually written VM can be much more efficient in terms of access to data |
| 08:32.57 | blub_ | lua is very inconvenient in that respect |
| 08:33.09 | blub_ | and in python you have to run around in circles - and have no support for real threading |
| 08:33.30 | blub_ | python threads are no real threads, they share a single execution environment which switches between the threads |
| 08:33.49 | blub_ | virtual threads =) |
| 08:34.10 | Deaod | which is what SC2s VM does |
| 08:34.15 | Deaod | and WC3s VM does |
| 08:34.22 | Deaod | only SC2s VM is even worse |
| 08:34.53 | blub_ | any language where you have to call a function to access data is far less convenient than when you have a manually written VM where you can store pointers to the actual VM memory in your internal unit structures |
| 08:35.12 | blub_ | so lua, ruby and python are already ... bad :) |
| 08:35.48 | blub_ | well, I don't know about ruby, but lua and python I used in project of mine |
| 08:35.51 | blub_ | for scripting |
| 08:36.31 | blub_ | and I'll replace them as soon as I get the time to finish my compiler :P so I'm making the same choice as blizzard did there :P |
| 08:37.03 | Deaod | well, you know, they couldve reused JASS |
| 08:37.11 | blub_ | don't know jass at all |
| 08:37.24 | Deaod | WC3s scripting language |
| 08:37.33 | Deaod | slow, yes |
| 08:37.44 | Deaod | verbose, yes |
| 08:37.49 | blub_ | just seeing it on wikipedia |
| 08:37.51 | blub_ | hate the syntax :D |
| 08:38.02 | Deaod | :) |
| 08:38.19 | blub_ | no really, it makes me think of cobol |
| 08:38.21 | Deaod | what of it? |
| 08:38.46 | blub_ | function x takes nothing returns real |
| 08:38.51 | blub_ | that hurts |
| 08:38.57 | blub_ | real x() {} |
| 08:38.59 | blub_ | is so much better |
| 08:39.14 | blub_ | set i=i+1 ... |
| 08:39.17 | blub_ | SET? |
| 08:39.26 | blub_ | that comes pretty close to |
| 08:39.30 | blub_ | ADD 1 TO i GIVING i |
| 08:39.37 | Deaod | result: you can read the code and understand it. |
| 08:39.49 | blub_ | Deaod: sure, that... human-readable code |
| 08:39.52 | Deaod | without needing to learn too much. |
| 08:39.54 | blub_ | but that's not the goal of a good language |
| 08:40.40 | Deaod | also, its line based |
| 08:40.48 | Deaod | no annoying semicolons |
| 08:40.53 | Deaod | no braces |
| 08:40.58 | blub_ | I prefer semicolons for a very simple reason |
| 08:41.06 | blub_ | better formatting |
| 08:41.10 | blub_ | no 500 column lines |
| 08:41.19 | blub_ | especially with a long syntax |
| 08:41.23 | Deaod | delimited comments |
| 08:41.28 | Deaod | saving the day |
| 08:41.34 | Deaod | bad solution, i know |
| 08:41.50 | Deaod | and native JASS doesnt even have them |
| 08:41.56 | blub_ | I really prefer being able to write the conditions of IFs for example over multiple lines |
| 08:42.11 | blub_ | and aligning them properly |
| 08:44.02 | blub_ | I dislike languages which easily cause me to have to scroll *sideways* in the editor due to the design of their syntax... |
| 08:44.30 | blub_ | bad practice |
| 08:46.35 | Deaod | meh, cant think of too many situations where i had to squeeze so much into a single line. |
| 08:50.06 | Deaod | i just wish more languages were as easy to learn as JASS |
| 08:50.33 | Deaod | meh |
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| 08:56.59 | maknyuzz | hi |
| 08:57.22 | maknyuzz | how do i make inventory shows up all the time? |
| 08:57.33 | maknyuzz | even when u click/select enemy's or friend's hero? |
| 08:59.25 | Mexa|Sleep | Deaod, galaxy is slower than ruby you said. Is ruby an interpreted language? |
| 09:00.13 | Mexa|Sleep | also, good mornin |
| 09:01.35 | Mexa|Sleep | But wouldn't it be an even better comparison to compare galaxy to say, Java? |
| 09:03.16 | blub_ | in terms of what? |
| 09:04.45 | Mexa|Sleep | in terms of both being interpreted by a vm |
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| 09:05.50 | Mexa|Sleep | I don't know much about ruby though, which is why I am askiing |
| 09:05.55 | Mexa|Sleep | *asking |
| 09:06.06 | blub_ | Mexa|Sleep: problem is that you never get a pure VM for java |
| 09:06.25 | blub_ | Mexa|Sleep: with a pure VM, galaxy SHOULD be faster, because of much less overhead... if not, blizzard sucks |
| 09:06.32 | blub_ | Mexa|Sleep: but nowadays java has lots of JIT compiled code |
| 09:06.35 | Mexa|Sleep | Well, the code is still not machine code |
| 09:06.38 | blub_ | Mexa|Sleep: so it runs natively on the CPU |
| 09:06.46 | Mexa|Sleep | natively? |
| 09:06.53 | blub_ | Mexa|Sleep: it gets JIT compiled to machine code |
| 09:07.03 | Mexa|Sleep | are you sure :v? |
| 09:07.06 | blub_ | or should be... parts |
| 09:07.24 | Mexa|Sleep | oh yeah |
| 09:07.32 | Mexa|Sleep | Just in time compiler |
| 09:07.35 | Mexa|Sleep | silly me |
| 09:08.13 | Mexa|Sleep | hm but still |
| 09:08.21 | blub_ | part of why java loads up slower but then runs relatively fast |
| 09:08.31 | Demalii | i've tried making a marine and the odin atk while moving and i can't get it |
| 09:08.38 | Deaod | Zoxc chose ruby because apparently ruby is one of the slowest scripting languages in common use |
| 09:08.38 | Mexa|Sleep | I'd be interested in see how fast galaxy is relative java |
| 09:08.41 | Demalii | all the forums i've read say allow movement, and 2 flags |
| 09:08.49 | Demalii | i've done that and every other combonation =( |
| 09:09.42 | Mexa|Sleep | Deaod, hmkay |
| 09:10.00 | Deaod | so Java should be much faster |
| 09:10.08 | Mexa|Sleep | Than Ruby? |
| 09:10.11 | Deaod | yes |
| 09:10.22 | Deaod | that, and galaxy |
| 09:11.20 | Mexa|Sleep | well I figured:p |
| 09:11.23 | blub_ | only non-JITted java would be interesting in that comparison... since it does have some overhead, and is a memory hog |
| 09:11.26 | blub_ | :P |
| 09:13.14 | Mexa|Sleep | mm, hmm |
| 09:13.19 | Mexa|Sleep | Brb |
| 09:14.25 | Demalii | no ideas on the attack while moving issue? |
| 09:14.32 | Mexa|Sleep | Hey Deaod, don'y you use the friend system on youtube? |
| 09:14.36 | Mexa|Sleep | :p |
| 09:14.59 | Deaod | oh, youre that random stranger wanting to befriend me? |
| 09:15.04 | Mexa|Sleep | lol |
| 09:15.17 | Mexa|Sleep | I did tell you, but I guess you were asleep |
| 09:15.28 | Deaod | oh |
| 09:15.33 | Mexa|Sleep | Also never took the conclusion that Mexa might be a short for Mexaprone? |
| 09:15.38 | Mexa|Sleep | Whatever it means:p |
| 09:15.41 | Deaod | yeah, thats lost in the bnc |
| 09:16.00 | Mexa|Sleep | ah |
| 09:16.12 | Deaod | but, no havent seen your friend invitation yet |
| 09:16.23 | Deaod | just thought you sent one earlier |
| 09:16.24 | Mexa|Sleep | oh |
| 09:16.28 | Mexa|Sleep | I did |
| 09:16.37 | Mexa|Sleep | Since yesterday or something |
| 09:17.13 | Deaod | so, APPROVED |
| 09:17.18 | Deaod | ! |
| 09:17.18 | Mexa|Sleep | Ah |
| 09:17.20 | Mexa|Sleep | yay:P |
| 09:17.23 | Mexa|Sleep | ! |
| 09:17.55 | Mexa|Sleep | Demalii, I don't know myself really, but the phoenix is shooting while moving for instance |
| 09:18.03 | Mexa|Sleep | Maybe you can find hints in that uni |
| 09:18.06 | Mexa|Sleep | *unit |
| 09:19.57 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot2011-04-22%2011_18_58.jpg |
| 09:20.08 | blub_ | ah I tell ya, getting those beams through the portals properly is not as easy as it looks |
| 09:20.20 | blub_ | but hey, it's going well |
| 09:21.06 | Demalii | i've checked it's allowed movement is "slowed" |
| 09:21.11 | Demalii | or slowing i think |
| 09:21.22 | Mexa|Sleep | Making something "portal"-related, blub_? |
| 09:21.25 | Demalii | even then i've done everything front and backwards |
| 09:21.35 | blub_ | Mexa|Sleep: yep |
| 09:21.46 | blub_ | Demalii: ability to use while moving, right? |
| 09:21.57 | blub_ | Demalii: I only know "allow movement" and "Transient" flags are necessary |
| 09:21.59 | Demalii | attack while moving |
| 09:22.11 | Mexa|Sleep | There's also this vehicle in the campaign which can attack while moving |
| 09:22.12 | Mexa|Sleep | forgot the name of it |
| 09:22.13 | Demalii | err transient? |
| 09:22.15 | blub_ | attack is an ability =) |
| 09:22.27 | blub_ | Demalii: yeah, I picked that up on this channel a few days ago |
| 09:22.30 | blub_ | Demalii: try adding that flag |
| 09:22.30 | Demalii | like the weapon options of attack only target, and fire only while attacking |
| 09:22.38 | blub_ | Mexa|Sleep: diamond back |
| 09:22.47 | Mexa|Sleep | Yeah, that's the one |
| 09:22.58 | Demalii | im sorry blub, where is this flag? |
| 09:23.17 | blub_ | tho the diamond back has no seperate attack ability |
| 09:23.20 | blub_ | hmm |
| 09:23.47 | blub_ | voidray and phoenix also keep moving while attacking tho |
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| 09:24.17 | Demalii | weird eh? |
| 09:24.29 | blub_ | ah |
| 09:24.41 | blub_ | the weapon has a "Weapon - Allowed Movement" field |
| 09:25.01 | blub_ | which I think you already changed |
| 09:25.14 | blub_ | Demalii: why "Slowed" tho? |
| 09:25.31 | Demalii | isn't the phoenix slow? |
| 09:25.34 | blub_ | have you tried with "Moving"? |
| 09:25.38 | Demalii | err i've tried both |
| 09:25.39 | Demalii | lol |
| 09:25.46 | Demalii | i haven't done transient flag on the abilities yet though |
| 09:25.50 | blub_ | nope, phoenix and diamond back both have "Moving" |
| 09:26.00 | Demalii | weird |
| 09:26.02 | blub_ | Demalii: seems to not exist for attacking abilities |
| 09:26.06 | blub_ | only for "ability" abilities hehe |
| 09:26.07 | Demalii | ohh right |
| 09:26.23 | Demalii | so i've done moving, and weapon options, turned off both bottom flags |
| 09:26.27 | Demalii | like every forum says to do |
| 09:26.30 | blub_ | try with "Moving", maybe the slowdown is something that is applied as behaviour or something |
| 09:26.36 | Demalii | but i've tried both |
| 09:26.42 | Demalii | i can't get either to work, i've tried with a marine |
| 09:26.53 | Demalii | iono if it's because i copy and pasted the marine and actor |
| 09:26.57 | Demalii | and then modified the weapon |
| 09:27.27 | blub_ | copy&pasted? you can use the duplicate function :P |
| 09:27.46 | Demalii | the same thing though ? |
| 09:28.42 | blub_ | well, duplication also handles all the data-links |
| 09:28.49 | blub_ | you can check which links to duplicate |
| 09:28.55 | Demalii | yea true |
| 09:28.59 | blub_ | like, if you duplicate a unit, you can tell it to also duplicate the actor and weapon |
| 09:29.15 | Demalii | well lemme dup with a marine real quick |
| 09:29.22 | Demalii | try switching movement to moving |
| 09:32.11 | Demalii | jeeze |
| 09:32.36 | Demalii | i give up, what all the forums say to do, doesn't work for me too bad eh |
| 09:32.44 | blub_ | wellllll |
| 09:33.17 | blub_ | what exactly do they say? |
| 09:33.31 | blub_ | beside setting Allowed Movement |
| 09:34.04 | blub_ | Demalii: ? :) |
| 09:34.14 | Demalii | turn off weapon options - "only fire at attack target" and "only fire while attacking" |
| 09:35.08 | blub_ | Demalii: works for me, BUT |
| 09:35.18 | blub_ | Demalii: the weapon has an arc of 0 |
| 09:35.26 | blub_ | Demalii: so it can only atttack what's EXACTLY ahead of it |
| 09:35.32 | Demalii | ok let me double check |
| 09:35.35 | blub_ | Demalii: I changed it to 360, and now the thor moves around killing stuff |
| 09:36.38 | Demalii | wtf |
| 09:36.50 | Demalii | i can't get it to work what the hell |
| 09:36.56 | Demalii | let me try just editing the thor |
| 09:37.00 | Demalii | instead of creating a new unit |
| 09:37.03 | blub_ | maybe you didn't place the duplicated unit |
| 09:37.04 | blub_ | but the old one |
| 09:37.11 | blub_ | :P |
| 09:38.19 | Demalii | wow this is bizzare |
| 09:38.35 | Demalii | iono how you got it working but i just edited the 3 fields on the thor's main gun |
| 09:38.39 | Demalii | it only atks if stopped |
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| 09:39.55 | blub_ | Demalii: which fields now exactly? |
| 09:39.58 | blub_ | and which gun exactly |
| 09:39.58 | blub_ | :P |
| 09:40.09 | Demalii | thor's hammer |
| 09:40.11 | Demalii | under weapons |
| 09:40.21 | Demalii | and allowed movement to moving, and weapon - options: |
| 09:40.31 | Demalii | only fire at attacking target, and only fire while attacking |
| 09:40.33 | Demalii | turned those off |
| 09:40.54 | blub_ | that's it? |
| 09:40.59 | Demalii | yes |
| 09:41.03 | blub_ | also set: Stats - Arc to 360 |
| 09:41.14 | blub_ | and then you need to figure out a nice angle that doesn't look stupid =) |
| 09:41.18 | blub_ | 90 is probably okay for the thor |
| 09:41.26 | Demalii | so |
| 09:41.30 | Demalii | arc can be 90? |
| 09:41.35 | Demalii | or is that arc slop |
| 09:41.51 | blub_ | just set Arc to 90 |
| 09:41.56 | Demalii | right |
| 09:42.00 | blub_ | then it should attack whatever is before it |
| 09:42.03 | blub_ | but ignore what's behind it |
| 09:42.16 | Demalii | ok i've done 0, 370, 10, 20, 30, 50, 100, 140 |
| 09:42.16 | blub_ | because it cannot turn around and move backwards |
| 09:42.31 | blub_ | you what? |
| 09:42.58 | Demalii | i've done all sorts of different arc settings |
| 09:43.05 | Demalii | on the units just saying |
| 09:43.09 | Demalii | i've tried everything front and back |
| 09:43.22 | blub_ | ... |
| 09:43.30 | Demalii | look if you want |
| 09:43.34 | blub_ | okay |
| 10:01.02 | blub_ | changelings are evil :D |
| 10:20.53 | Demalii | where do you set the model for the projectile? is that under the actor right? |
| 10:25.37 | blub_ | probably, try it, then ask again :P |
| 10:26.54 | Demalii | yes i found it, when i duplicated it didn't add in the missle actor |
| 10:26.56 | Demalii | so i made one |
| 10:26.58 | Demalii | ty |
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| 10:54.13 | syltman | btw if you have a fixed that is 0.6 and then run the function FixedToInt will the fixed become 0 or 1? |
| 11:09.47 | Dekar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8qgehH3kEQ&feature=player_embedded |
| 11:09.48 | Dekar | xD |
| 11:13.06 | Stewox | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj4JuexiYok&feature=player_embedded |
| 11:13.09 | syltman | Damn, that's quite a good hacker |
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| 11:23.36 | blub_ | argh |
| 11:23.41 | blub_ | unit group indices start with 1 >.< |
| 11:23.58 | blub_ | someone needs to be punished for this |
| 11:27.04 | Helral|afk | meow? |
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| 11:40.14 | blub_ | mh |
| 11:40.19 | blub_ | what makes dynamic pathing blockers dynamic? :O |
| 11:40.27 | blub_ | is there some way to "activate" them? |
| 11:40.46 | Helral | they're units ;p |
| 11:40.52 | Helral | so you can create them during runtime ;p |
| 11:41.07 | Helral | and also remove them |
| 11:41.15 | blub_ | oh, just that |
| 11:41.22 | blub_ | but it's not blocking the path... |
| 11:41.57 | Helral | hmmm |
| 11:42.03 | blub_ | oh |
| 11:42.05 | blub_ | just the 16x16 one |
| 11:42.07 | blub_ | the others do |
| 11:45.34 | disi | hi there, just a stupid question (i think) but how can i load galaxy files into a map? |
| 11:55.13 | Helral | include "Filename" I think |
| 11:55.28 | Helral | custom script |
| 11:56.04 | disi | Helral: ok but where? |
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| 11:56.57 | Helral | trigger editor. custom script |
| 11:57.28 | disi | ok and which path c:\... or just relativ to the map save point? |
| 11:58.35 | Helral | import path |
| 11:58.51 | Helral | bit useless to have the .galaxy file not in your map if you want to use it. |
| 11:59.15 | disi | ok so i need to import the file and add a custom script into the trigger? |
| 11:59.45 | disi | Helral the problem is that the things i want to change at the script are not saved |
| 12:00.07 | disi | so i googled a bit at work and it seems that you can't edit the code into the map directly!? |
| 12:00.59 | Helral | hmmmm? what you wanna change? |
| 12:01.15 | Helral | bit of blurry conversation this ;p |
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| 12:02.45 | disi | i wanna programm because i think the gui editor sucks a bit :D |
| 12:03.03 | disi | but thanks i need to go back to work, thanks for the help cya |
| 12:04.50 | Dekar | you rule Helral D: |
| 12:05.25 | Dekar | helping people like ... |
| 12:05.32 | Dekar | nothing i can imagin |
| 12:05.33 | Dekar | e |
| 12:06.49 | Helral | throws fishbones at Dekar. |
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| 12:12.05 | Nash|327 | Helral doesn't help people, he just meows |
| 12:12.26 | Helral | meows questioningly |
| 12:15.06 | blub_ | what's the "Glide" type for the Height At Point function? :O |
| 12:15.33 | Helral | Height at Point function? |
| 12:15.49 | blub_ | or well, for movers |
| 12:15.51 | blub_ | "Height Map" |
| 12:15.54 | blub_ | can be air, ground, or glide |
| 12:16.39 | Helral | guess glide is alike hover. maybe flying units which can fly above ground units, but cannot scale cliffs? |
| 12:16.49 | Helral | dunno to be honest ;p |
| 12:16.51 | blub_ | like which one? :O |
| 12:17.18 | Helral | hmmm let's see if someone recorded it in the wiki |
| 12:17.23 | blub_ | ah, Colossus has a Glide mover |
| 12:17.50 | blub_ | guess it means it must be air+ground passable, and can go over cliffs :P |
| 12:17.55 | Helral | neh |
| 12:18.17 | Helral | it's just the 3rd mover map. collosi don't bump into ground/air units |
| 12:18.32 | Helral | but they do bump into eachother. |
| 12:18.46 | blub_ | right |
| 12:18.48 | blub_ | wait no |
| 12:18.50 | Helral | also attackable as ground/air |
| 12:18.55 | blub_ | that's done with the Collides flag... |
| 12:19.02 | blub_ | or isn't it? |
| 12:19.12 | blub_ | and attackable as is also a unit flag |
| 12:19.15 | Helral | not sure how it works ;p |
| 12:19.18 | blub_ | but I'm talking about the "Mover" :P |
| 12:19.29 | Helral | yeah wiki has little info about the Movers |
| 12:19.35 | Helral | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/data/movers/ |
| 12:19.36 | blub_ | I'd assume it means it can glide over cliffs |
| 12:20.15 | Helral | hmmm could be.... |
| 12:20.38 | blub_ | just gonna test |
| 12:20.46 | blub_ | well |
| 12:20.52 | blub_ | stalker still collides with the marine, but can move over cliffs |
| 12:20.53 | blub_ | :P |
| 12:22.13 | Helral | hehehe |
| 12:23.11 | Helral | maybe update the wiki with what you figure out about movers :) |
| 12:24.17 | blub_ | interesting |
| 12:24.30 | blub_ | when I use the "lower cliff" operation to get to the lowest point |
| 12:24.37 | blub_ | it's automatically non-pathable |
| 12:24.51 | blub_ | but I can override that to "ground" in the path-painter |
| 12:24.57 | blub_ | then it's pathable |
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| 12:43.41 | blub_ | huh |
| 12:43.53 | Helral | meow? |
| 12:44.12 | blub_ | I guess I should make it so that a beam on the highground doesn't go through portals on a lowground ^^ |
| 12:48.03 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot2011-04-22%2014_47_18.jpg |
| 12:48.06 | blub_ | :D |
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| 12:51.55 | Mexa|HomeHome | Hey |
| 12:52.18 | Helral | blub_: shineys ;p |
| 12:55.03 | blub_ | Helral: yeah :D |
| 12:55.14 | Mexa|HomeHome | Sup? |
| 12:55.16 | blub_ | shiney portals, model suggested by JademusSreg |
| 12:56.28 | blub_ | maybe I should not remove the teamcolor though |
| 12:56.30 | blub_ | hmmm |
| 12:56.41 | blub_ | to see which portal belongs to which player ^^ |
| 12:58.04 | blub_ | nah those team colors are way too strong ^^ |
| 13:09.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ziirox (51eae260@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.234.226.96) |
| 13:09.14 | Ziirox | hello:D |
| 13:09.44 | Helral | blub_: my UI http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13276752/UI_in_development.png :P (not sure if you've seen it yet) |
| 13:09.46 | Helral | meow |
| 13:10.17 | Ziirox | lol |
| 13:10.33 | Ziirox | checkout onetwo's at youtube there some nice UI tips :p |
| 13:11.19 | Helral | I'll whack em for them if he logs on ;p |
| 13:11.26 | Helral | meows |
| 13:11.30 | Helral | ;p |
| 13:11.34 | Ziirox | :D |
| 13:11.49 | Ziirox | How come there's so many people in here and none is talking :( |
| 13:12.05 | Helral | maybe we should call Ghostbusters ;p |
| 13:12.13 | Helral | to bust all them ghosts here ;p |
| 13:12.16 | Ziirox | lol :D |
| 13:12.37 | Helral | how did it go again? |
| 13:12.50 | Mexa|HomeHome | We are all lurkers.. |
| 13:12.59 | Helral | if there is something strange in the neighberhood, who you gonna call? |
| 13:13.05 | Ziirox | haha yeh |
| 13:13.12 | Helral | chants He-man He-man He-man |
| 13:13.22 | Ziirox | wtf how do you do that :P |
| 13:13.30 | Ziirox | *test |
| 13:13.32 | Helral | wonders what |
| 13:13.37 | Ziirox | that |
| 13:13.38 | Ziirox | thingy |
| 13:13.44 | blub_ | why do the default functions to construct a Set Tint color or Set Team Color actor message not provide a way to add the HDR multiplier |
| 13:13.46 | Helral | says: "ow this, /me :)" |
| 13:13.54 | Ziirox | ah:D |
| 13:13.54 | blub_ | writes his own >.< |
| 13:14.06 | Ziirox | lol'd |
| 13:14.12 | Helral | meows |
| 13:14.40 | SilverSeraphim | what exactly does the HDR multiplier do? |
| 13:14.49 | SilverSeraphim | <-- noob |
| 13:15.03 | Helral | well they ....... |
| 13:15.09 | Helral | doesn't know ;p |
| 13:15.14 | SilverSeraphim | multiply the HDR? |
| 13:15.20 | SilverSeraphim | ;) |
| 13:15.22 | Helral | exactly ;p |
| 13:15.27 | SilverSeraphim | obviously |
| 13:15.29 | SilverSeraphim | why didn't i think of that |
| 13:15.30 | Ziirox | rofl:P |
| 13:15.33 | Ziirox | hahha:D |
| 13:15.33 | SilverSeraphim | thanks Helral |
| 13:15.42 | Helral | goes back into hiding. |
| 13:15.45 | SilverSeraphim | i'll give you credit in my map |
| 13:15.49 | Helral | lol |
| 13:15.56 | SilverSeraphim | hahaha |
| 13:16.29 | Ziirox | likes turtles |
| 13:18.03 | Helral | likes napping on turtles as long as they stay on land. |
| 13:21.46 | Dekar | likes super teenage mutant turtles |
| 13:21.51 | Ziirox | awzm |
| 13:22.08 | Helral | likes turtles named after painters ;p |
| 13:22.41 | Ziirox | lol helral we just saw your tutorial |
| 13:22.47 | Ziirox | didnt realize you where that awesoe guy |
| 13:22.53 | Helral | lol |
| 13:22.55 | Helral | :) |
| 13:23.08 | Dekar | what, helral is a guy? |
| 13:23.12 | Ziirox | trying to fix a ui here |
| 13:23.15 | Helral | male cat ;p |
| 13:23.32 | Ziirox | how do you get a wow look a like layout in sc2 :3 |
| 13:23.52 | Helral | hmmm? wow-look? |
| 13:24.03 | Ziirox | yeah like actionbars in the middle bot |
| 13:24.12 | Ziirox | and minimap right top |
| 13:24.14 | Helral | ow like in my link? |
| 13:24.20 | Ziirox | ye |
| 13:24.34 | Dekar | you take his ui file and tell sc2 to use it |
| 13:24.36 | SilverSeraphim | i'm interested in knowing the answer as well |
| 13:24.40 | SilverSeraphim | lol |
| 13:24.46 | SilverSeraphim | what if you want to make your own ui? |
| 13:24.47 | Dekar | its simple, really :p |
| 13:25.39 | Helral | did you read my tutorial? it basicly is all there. the info ;p |
| 13:25.39 | Dekar | read helrals awesome tutorial that is so helpful that he always has to explain it personally on irc |
| 13:25.45 | Ziirox | yeah i saw that now |
| 13:25.46 | Ziirox | xD |
| 13:26.01 | Ziirox | downloading atm *yey* |
| 13:26.07 | Helral | and I just repeat what is in the tutorial on IRC ;p |
| 13:26.16 | SilverSeraphim | can someone link the tutorial please? |
| 13:26.22 | Ziirox | .D |
| 13:26.30 | Ziirox | loves helral |
| 13:27.26 | Helral | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/20323-sc2layout-files-override-method-aiurchef-method/ |
| 13:27.53 | SilverSeraphim | ty ty! |
| 13:31.15 | Dekar | The circumference of the Earth is about 200,000 furlongs. |
| 13:32.42 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 13:33.06 | Helral | drops the hammer and looks if JademusSreg stays awake. |
| 13:33.17 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 13:34.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster lefix (~lefix@i59F7B4F6.versanet.de) |
| 13:34.15 | Ziirox | wb's |
| 13:34.31 | JademusSreg | What's up? |
| 13:34.49 | SilverSeraphim | hello JademusSreg |
| 13:34.52 | blub_ | JademusSreg: portal colors |
| 13:35.07 | blub_ | thinking about giving different players different colors :P |
| 13:35.23 | JademusSreg | gasp |
| 13:35.41 | JademusSreg | Sounds like a super fun pain in the ass. |
| 13:35.54 | blub_ | but nvm |
| 13:35.59 | JademusSreg | Why not just make them cursorable so the player name appears when the cursor is over it? |
| 13:36.56 | JademusSreg | Or create a tinted light at its position. |
| 13:37.33 | Dekar | or use actor tint |
| 13:37.35 | Dekar | :[ |
| 13:37.43 | JademusSreg | Exactly. Tinted light. |
| 13:37.56 | Dekar | yeah, tint! |
| 13:37.56 | JademusSreg | The portals are already tinted to get their colors. |
| 13:38.07 | blub_ | JademusSreg: could attach small orb with the playercolor on top of the current orb :P |
| 13:38.12 | blub_ | saw that last shot? |
| 13:38.12 | Dekar | so where is the problem then? :p |
| 13:38.15 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot2011-04-22%2014_47_18.jpg |
| 13:38.23 | blub_ | JademusSreg: what'cha think about the arrows now? |
| 13:39.04 | JademusSreg | They are almost visible. =D |
| 13:39.21 | blub_ | well they shouldn't be TOO visible... but stillllll visible lol |
| 13:39.26 | Dekar | they look like minature suns |
| 13:39.28 | Dekar | :o |
| 13:39.53 | Dekar | solar based portal system |
| 13:40.20 | Mexa|HomeHome | blub_ what is this project of yours? |
| 13:40.31 | blub_ | Mexa|HomeHome: a portal map |
| 13:41.04 | Mexa|HomeHome | I know that so far, but what is the key game mecanics? |
| 13:41.08 | Dekar | . |
| 13:41.08 | Mexa|HomeHome | *mechanics |
| 13:41.26 | Mexa|HomeHome | What's the gamplay so to speak? |
| 13:41.27 | Dekar | puzzles or killing i bet! |
| 13:41.41 | Ziirox | What do you guys think of the mafia game :o |
| 13:41.46 | blub_ | puzzles, yeah :D |
| 13:41.47 | Dekar | boring |
| 13:41.52 | Mexa|HomeHome | Not my cup of tea. |
| 13:41.53 | blub_ | portal puzzals |
| 13:42.00 | SilverSeraphim | haven't tried it yet |
| 13:42.16 | Ziirox | :p |
| 13:42.18 | Mexa|HomeHome | People may like more social types of games like Mafia and Debates |
| 13:42.29 | Mexa|HomeHome | But that is not why I log on to play starcraft 2:p |
| 13:43.57 | SilverSeraphim | my favorites right now are Card Shuffle, Magecraft, and StarJeweled |
| 13:44.21 | SilverSeraphim | but i haven't tried very many custom games |
| 13:44.27 | Mexa|HomeHome | Me neither |
| 13:44.45 | Mexa|HomeHome | JademusSreg, beep |
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| 13:45.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dustin (dustin.hen@ip72-209-158-12.ks.ks.cox.net) |
| 13:46.29 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 13:48.32 | Mexa|HomeHome | Hi |
| 13:48.44 | SilverSeraphim | HI |
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| 13:48.49 | Mexa|HomeHome | Want a status update of photon cycles, jade? |
| 13:48.54 | Mexa|HomeHome | *JADE |
| 13:48.59 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 13:49.00 | Mexa|HomeHome | lolcaps... |
| 13:49.47 | Mexa|HomeHome | Yeah |
| 13:49.52 | Mexa|HomeHome | It's moving up and down again |
| 13:49.54 | Mexa|HomeHome | 66hours |
| 13:49.59 | Mexa|HomeHome | But it has 112 bookmarks |
| 13:50.01 | Mexa|HomeHome | :) |
| 13:50.18 | JademusSreg | More popular in the EU than it is here. =D |
| 13:51.58 | SilverSeraphim | how can i get the integer of the player number? |
| 13:52.17 | SilverSeraphim | like if the Triggering player is player 1, then i want to set an integer variable == 1 |
| 13:52.23 | SilverSeraphim | err just 1 = |
| 13:52.42 | SilverSeraphim | is there a playerNumberToInteger function? |
| 13:53.07 | blub_ | player number *is* an integer |
| 13:53.42 | Helral | SilverSeraphim: set variable myInt = Triggering Payer ;p |
| 13:55.01 | Dustin | Woooo No work today :D |
| 13:55.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mexa|HomeHome (53b796d9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.83.183.150.217) |
| 13:55.10 | Mexa|HomeHome | Jademus, did you say something? |
| 13:55.11 | *** join/#sc2mapster grim001 (~chatzilla@c-69-246-170-145.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 13:55.22 | JademusSreg | More popular in the EU than it is here. =D |
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| 13:55.41 | Mexa|HomeHome | My mom pulled out the router power adapter .-. |
| 13:55.50 | Mexa|HomeHome | Ah, alrighty |
| 13:55.52 | Mexa|HomeHome | Nicw |
| 13:55.54 | Mexa|HomeHome | *Nice |
| 13:56.25 | Mexa|HomeHome | Nashface! |
| 13:56.37 | Mexa|HomeHome | throws a Helral at Hash|327 |
| 13:58.26 | Helral | bounces off Nash|327 and launches itself at Mexa|HomeHome |
| 13:58.50 | Helral | meows midair |
| 13:59.04 | Mexa|HomeHome | :v |
| 13:59.21 | Mexa|HomeHome | It's not a circus act! |
| 13:59.21 | Helral | lands on Mexa|HomeHome. |
| 13:59.26 | Helral | meows |
| 13:59.33 | Mexa|HomeHome | .-. |
| 13:59.37 | Helral | then don't throw a cat ;p |
| 14:00.16 | Helral | or at least not this cat ;p |
| 14:00.32 | SilverSeraphim | (9:53:39 AM) Helral: SilverSeraphim: set variable myInt = Triggering Payer ;p |
| 14:00.35 | SilverSeraphim | really? |
| 14:00.39 | SilverSeraphim | it's that simple? |
| 14:00.50 | Helral | Triggering Player is an integer ;p |
| 14:00.50 | SilverSeraphim | i'm amazed |
| 14:01.38 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot2011-04-22%2016_01_01.jpg |
| 14:01.54 | blub_ | JademusSreg: the downward facing pyramids are colored xD even if it's not easy to see :P |
| 14:02.08 | blub_ | and the color blends back and forth from somewhat darker to normal |
| 14:02.17 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 14:02.26 | blub_ | btw. site operations are really useful I must say ^^ |
| 14:02.30 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 14:02.45 | blub_ | could lower the HDR multiplier for the portals a bit |
| 14:02.50 | blub_ | then they'd be more visible I guess |
| 14:03.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster Skizot (skizot@pool-173-78-233-151.tampfl.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 14:03.16 | blub_ | or what if I set it to 0 for the tint color hmmm |
| 14:03.35 | JademusSreg | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUxXKfQkswE I guess she isn't a fan of Weird Al? |
| 14:04.10 | blub_ | okay setting that to 0 isn't useful at all ^^ |
| 14:04.10 | Dustin | I love Weird al |
| 14:05.35 | blub_ | :D |
| 14:05.55 | Dustin | Alright guys, time to map ALLL FUCKING DAY! |
| 14:06.03 | JademusSreg | In primary school, I was in physical fights because of my love of Weird Al. Or rather, from singing it all the time. |
| 14:06.14 | JademusSreg | Yes, it's map night. |
| 14:06.22 | JademusSreg | Who's in charge? |
| 14:06.36 | blub_ | YAY |
| 14:06.37 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot2011-04-22%2016_05_58.jpg |
| 14:06.40 | blub_ | THERE |
| 14:06.48 | blub_ | now it bounces between a HDR multiplier of 1 and 5 |
| 14:06.57 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 14:07.04 | blub_ | so it has a glow which comes and goes |
| 14:07.05 | blub_ | :D |
| 14:07.12 | blub_ | check the 2 lower portals |
| 14:07.21 | Dustin | Howd you make em glow? |
| 14:07.25 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I used bouncing HDR in my map as well. |
| 14:07.34 | JademusSreg | Dustin, Set Tint, raise the HDR. |
| 14:07.59 | Dustin | Oh shit that's cool, theres so many visual things I dont know about in the editor lol |
| 14:08.32 | blub_ | Dustin: yes, like Site Operations which you can use to control where to attach some actor to another actor ^^ |
| 14:08.41 | blub_ | or the Host settings, and the Target parameters for actor messages |
| 14:08.46 | blub_ | etc :P |
| 14:08.51 | blub_ | like, an actor can tint its host >.< |
| 14:08.58 | blub_ | cool stuff |
| 14:09.19 | blub_ | also, that pyramid does not rotate with the portal :) |
| 14:09.29 | blub_ | it's always the same and just shows who owns the portal :D |
| 14:09.57 | Dustin | I know about Site ops :P |
| 14:10.22 | blub_ | oookay so I guess it's time to add some ... |
| 14:10.24 | blub_ | gamelogic |
| 14:10.30 | blub_ | bwahahahahaha |
| 14:11.48 | Mexa|HomeHome | Jadmeus |
| 14:11.54 | Mexa|HomeHome | You forgot to read the description |
| 14:11.58 | Mexa|HomeHome | It does say she approved it |
| 14:12.34 | Dustin | Is it a paradoy of one of her songs? |
| 14:12.41 | Mexa|HomeHome | yes |
| 14:13.00 | Mexa|HomeHome | A parody of Born this way |
| 14:13.07 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I was watching it embedded.' |
| 14:13.15 | Mexa|HomeHome | ah¨ |
| 14:13.29 | Mexa|HomeHome | Weird Al better add an annotation so that people don't get confused about it:P |
| 14:13.31 | Dustin | Yeah he always gets the original artists permission before making the parodys |
| 14:14.09 | Mexa|HomeHome | Good sports |
| 14:14.56 | Dustin | Most artists don't think they've hit it big untill Weird al asks to do a paradoy of their songs :P |
| 14:16.32 | blub_ | Do my cubes need hearts on them? XD |
| 14:16.37 | Dustin | Yes |
| 14:16.38 | blub_ | to be "true"? XD |
| 14:16.42 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 14:16.48 | blub_ | damn :P |
| 14:17.01 | blub_ | that's ... work :P |
| 14:20.56 | Mexa|HomeHome | No, they need to be edgeless:P |
| 14:22.33 | Mexa|HomeHome | Hmm, what to do, what to do |
| 14:23.16 | Mexa|HomeHome | throws a ball of twine at Helral |
| 14:25.39 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot2011-04-22%2016_25_09.jpg |
| 14:25.48 | SilverSeraphim | ol |
| 14:25.53 | SilverSeraphim | awesome blub_ |
| 14:26.04 | blub_ | there... a heart... pfff:P |
| 14:29.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster burne- (d9186e73@gateway/web/freenode/ip.217.24.110.115) |
| 14:29.12 | burne- | hello girls |
| 14:29.41 | Mexa|HomeHome | hello enslaved one |
| 14:30.01 | Mexa|HomeHome | no pun, so Hi |
| 14:30.07 | burne- | and for helral: http://nyan.cat/ |
| 14:30.51 | burne- | is he even here? |
| 14:30.53 | burne- | :( |
| 14:31.01 | burne- | he is |
| 14:31.07 | burne- | herlal : http://nyan.cat/ |
| 14:31.27 | Mexa|HomeHome | helral |
| 14:31.27 | Skizot | dammit steam |
| 14:37.10 | blub_ | burne-: hoi |
| 14:37.22 | burne- | hello |
| 14:37.39 | blub_ | care to check out my portally portals? |
| 14:37.40 | burne- | Im gona ditch the wasd movement for now |
| 14:37.42 | burne- | sure |
| 14:37.57 | burne- | cant fucking getting working so I guess it will have to do without it |
| 14:38.12 | blub_ | I've gotten way deeper into the cruel world of the editor already than I thought I would |
| 14:38.29 | blub_ | burne-: well I was gonna suggest |
| 14:38.33 | blub_ | burne-: if you use UnitSetFacing |
| 14:38.37 | blub_ | burne-: make that "faster" ^^ |
| 14:38.48 | blub_ | the animation for it |
| 14:38.53 | blub_ | so, in essence, the actual turning rate |
| 14:39.29 | blub_ | still distinguishing between turning rate and the turning steps the buttons produced :P |
| 14:40.01 | blub_ | gah |
| 14:40.09 | blub_ | why do I still have the "2 teams" option in the game lobby >.< |
| 14:40.14 | blub_ | I though tI locked them |
| 14:40.36 | blub_ | burne-: you coming? ^^ |
| 14:40.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster nodgene (5688619b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.136.97.155) |
| 14:40.56 | burne- | im trying |
| 14:40.58 | blub_ | anyone else wanna see? ^^ gotta do it one after the other tho since it's currently limited to 2 players |
| 14:41.04 | burne- | but the main problem with wasd is the delay |
| 14:41.12 | burne- | it works fine when i test it, but in bnet its totally different |
| 14:41.20 | blub_ | well |
| 14:41.21 | nodgene | GENTLEMEN |
| 14:41.24 | blub_ | you cannot test it locally :P |
| 14:41.33 | blub_ | waits... |
| 14:41.55 | blub_ | pokes nodgene... |
| 14:41.57 | nodgene | does anyknow know |
| 14:42.00 | blub_ | aren't you forgetting something :P |
| 14:42.05 | nodgene | why goliaths and predators are running through force fields? |
| 14:42.15 | nodgene | .... |
| 14:42.26 | nodgene | ........ what have I done now? :( |
| 14:42.36 | blub_ | 16:41 < nodgene> GENTLEMEN |
| 14:42.55 | nodgene | you're a lady? |
| 14:43.08 | blub_ | no |
| 14:43.09 | blub_ | but still |
| 14:43.32 | nodgene | I imagine there is a lady or two in this chat, but not necessarily here right now. |
| 14:44.14 | nodgene | It's terribly offputting when you force field what you think will stop those nasty goliath from chasing you |
| 14:44.22 | nodgene | and then they just run through the field |
| 14:44.25 | nodgene | bahaha |
| 14:45.07 | Helral | meow |
| 14:45.35 | nodgene | oh hello kitty |
| 14:45.43 | nodgene | do you want some cat nip? |
| 14:45.50 | nodgene | Well you're not getting any because we don't believe in intoxicants in this house. |
| 14:45.56 | Helral | meows |
| 14:46.03 | nodgene | Precisely monotone kitty |
| 14:46.18 | Helral | meows in a high pitch |
| 14:46.19 | nodgene | here helral |
| 14:46.34 | nodgene | do you know what might be causing goliaths and predators to run through a force field? |
| 14:46.44 | nodgene | is it that I'm using a melee force field instead of campaign? |
| 14:46.45 | Dekar | puts a bucket of helral |
| 14:46.50 | Dekar | *over |
| 14:46.51 | nodgene | or are they counted as exceptions? |
| 14:47.00 | nodgene | in which case where the hell do I find the exception list |
| 14:47.03 | Helral | burns a hole in the bucket |
| 14:47.06 | Helral | meows |
| 14:47.15 | Mexa|HomeHome | I'm not sure order events are faster than wasd in reality |
| 14:47.18 | Helral | nodgene: no idea ;p |
| 14:47.26 | Mexa|HomeHome | I recall there was a video about it |
| 14:47.34 | Mexa|HomeHome | which compared both |
| 14:48.09 | nodgene | yarr |
| 14:48.12 | nodgene | Need to find out |
| 14:49.20 | nodgene | Have you ever considred |
| 14:49.28 | nodgene | that an ultralisk could be a high templar's best friend? |
| 14:51.34 | Helral | just make a high templar drive an ullie around :) |
| 14:51.51 | nodgene | haha |
| 14:52.02 | nodgene | well |
| 14:52.07 | nodgene | if the templar has consume |
| 14:52.11 | nodgene | and pschic abilities |
| 14:52.18 | nodgene | then he can consume from the ultralisk |
| 14:52.22 | nodgene | and get shittons of energy |
| 14:52.26 | nodgene | and also have a body guard |
| 14:54.18 | blub_ | burne-: :) |
| 14:54.52 | nodgene | ... amazing as this is it won't be the case if I can't figure out how to fix this issue. Urh, why is forefield such a strange ability |
| 14:55.41 | blub_ | nodgene: wellllll |
| 14:55.48 | Mexa|HomeHome | forcefields are fun. I remember a few melee matches I watched where they spook out units abit |
| 14:55.53 | blub_ | nodgene: the force field unit... collides with burrow, and "Unused (Land 09)" |
| 14:56.05 | blub_ | not with "ground" or anything else units usually collide with |
| 14:56.12 | blub_ | but I guess most default units have "land 09" as collision |
| 14:56.20 | Mexa|HomeHome | Fun how they have all those "Unused" ones without description |
| 14:56.26 | blub_ | nope |
| 14:56.30 | blub_ | nodgene: goliaths don't collide with Land-09 |
| 14:56.33 | blub_ | nodgene: there you go |
| 14:56.35 | nodgene | how do I find "land09" to modify the unit entries or associations? |
| 14:56.42 | blub_ | well |
| 14:56.44 | nodgene | I recall seeing it somewhere |
| 14:56.48 | blub_ | you can be rude, and add "Ground" to the forcefield |
| 14:56.50 | Mexa|HomeHome | It's fun, just like in warcraft 3, night elf wisps have the ability "unknown rewd" |
| 14:56.52 | blub_ | or add Land09 to the goliath |
| 14:56.56 | blub_ | Unit -> Movement - Collide |
| 14:57.05 | nodgene | :O |
| 14:57.12 | nodgene | thank you very much |
| 14:57.23 | blub_ | you don't happen to be VisionElf? :P |
| 14:57.37 | nodgene | lol no? |
| 14:57.41 | nodgene | I am certianly not an elf. |
| 14:57.43 | blub_ | (just asking because the force fields in Mineralz are mostly useless) |
| 14:57.50 | nodgene | Never played that |
| 14:57.55 | blub_ | or at least they used to be when I played it |
| 14:58.35 | nodgene | I understand this system now, excellent. |
| 14:58.44 | nodgene | It's so strange until someone points out the association |
| 14:58.49 | blub_ | nodgene: merely a tiny part of it :P |
| 14:58.58 | nodgene | yes indeed! |
| 14:58.59 | nodgene | Yes indeed |
| 14:59.19 | nodgene | I'm working on a deathmatch/micro game sort of thing. The player picks a combo of 2 units from most types |
| 14:59.28 | nodgene | and has access to a multitude of abilities |
| 14:59.41 | nodgene | been testing it with some friends recently, improving it, adding with criticism |
| 14:59.47 | nodgene | it's making good progress! |
| 15:01.06 | nodgene | but jesus is it hard |
| 15:01.18 | nodgene | I can barely micro 2 units of the same type |
| 15:01.20 | nodgene | never mind a combo, hah |
| 15:01.27 | Helral | meow |
| 15:02.24 | nodgene | one friend of the group of 5 who helped test was so offended by the fact his inability to micro meant he couldn't do anything, that he claimed it was "skillless" and "based on luck" but I laughed and everyone else told him "no, it's because you have no skill" haha. |
| 15:02.56 | Mexa|HomeHome | .-. |
| 15:03.10 | Mexa|HomeHome | i still even can't manage the challenges blizzard put out |
| 15:03.23 | blub_ | they have tips to help you though : |
| 15:03.24 | nodgene | yeah, this is micro on steroids |
| 15:03.24 | Mexa|HomeHome | Not gaining gold on more than about 3 of them :/ |
| 15:03.25 | blub_ | :D |
| 15:03.36 | Mexa|HomeHome | blub_ true |
| 15:03.57 | Mexa|HomeHome | I just simply don't mange to be everywhere at once :/ |
| 15:04.03 | blub_ | I want to be able to rotate regions :O |
| 15:04.04 | nodgene | :D |
| 15:04.15 | nodgene | regions? oh right hah |
| 15:04.24 | nodgene | yeah I wonder why they didn't put that, or allow you to rotate water |
| 15:06.13 | nodgene | here blurb, you seem to have your head screwed on right. I was wondering how to add a condition to an ability, to say "if shields == 0 then: effects" but I don't know how to do that. |
| 15:09.16 | blub_ | validators or requirements maybe |
| 15:09.17 | blub_ | I dunno :P |
| 15:09.22 | blub_ | never played with that part :P |
| 15:09.25 | nodgene | fair enough, thanks |
| 15:09.28 | nodgene | :) |
| 15:09.58 | blub_ | huh |
| 15:09.59 | nodgene | would it be unethical, or just amusing to allow all zerg units to burrow? |
| 15:10.01 | blub_ | maybe actor regions can be rotated |
| 15:10.03 | nodgene | like... mutalisks and brood lords |
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| 15:10.49 | Bounty | Hai guyz |
| 15:11.03 | nodgene | oh hai |
| 15:12.11 | Helral | meow |
| 15:12.33 | Bounty | So, this is pretty lame that PSN is down |
| 15:12.40 | nodgene | shame |
| 15:12.43 | nodgene | bbs, |
| 15:12.44 | Bounty | ME WANTZ TO PLAI MORAL KOMBATZ |
| 15:22.14 | Helral | furbal comcat? |
| 15:25.12 | Dekar | feral |
| 15:28.34 | JademusSreg | =D |
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| 15:32.46 | nodgene | FUNGAL COMBAT |
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| 15:39.48 | nodgene | Gah |
| 15:39.50 | blub_ | if I add a behaviour which can only stack once multiple times to a unit using a trigger |
| 15:39.54 | blub_ | will it have the behaviour multiple times then? |
| 15:39.56 | nodgene | british internet is so shit when the sun comes out performance drops substantially |
| 15:40.02 | blub_ | or will it not get applied if it already is |
| 15:40.10 | nodgene | ... |
| 15:40.20 | nodgene | why would you add it multiple times if it can only be stacked once? |
| 15:40.39 | blub_ | because I don't want to have to check if it already is applied :P |
| 15:40.51 | nodgene | k |
| 15:40.55 | nodgene | No idea in this respect :( |
| 15:44.50 | blub_ | okay I guess this cannot be done with behaviours ^^ |
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| 15:48.30 | blub_ | hah |
| 15:48.38 | blub_ | How to get rid of the spam of periodic triggers in the debug window: |
| 15:48.59 | blub_ | 1) put the trigger into a library 2) add the prototype for any functions you need in it manually as a custom script before the trigger. |
| 15:49.58 | burne- | hmmm |
| 15:50.00 | burne- | tought choise |
| 15:50.07 | burne- | mapping or go out running |
| 15:50.16 | burne- | or 3rd: do homework |
| 15:50.17 | burne- | :D |
| 15:50.36 | blub_ | burne-: do homework |
| 15:50.44 | blub_ | when you're done you'll feel more.. free xD |
| 15:50.46 | nodgene | run, homework, mapping |
| 15:50.46 | burne- | probly would be best |
| 15:50.47 | nodgene | ideal order |
| 15:50.52 | burne- | I know |
| 15:51.05 | Mexa|HomeHome | Arugh |
| 15:51.05 | burne- | homework, run, mapping is best order probly |
| 15:51.08 | Mexa|HomeHome | Stupid noseblood |
| 15:51.16 | nodgene | BRAIN CANCER |
| 15:51.20 | Mexa|HomeHome | :v |
| 15:51.34 | Helral | homework, do mapping while running |
| 15:51.42 | Mexa|HomeHome | It was an evil bugger... |
| 15:52.14 | blub_ | I'd prefer homework->run->mapping |
| 15:52.19 | blub_ | homework to get done with it |
| 15:52.26 | blub_ | then you can run without thinking about the nasty homework |
| 15:52.32 | blub_ | and happily start mapping afterwards :P |
| 15:52.55 | Mexa|HomeHome | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:53.04 | Mexa|HomeHome | What region is SG? :o |
| 16:04.00 | SilverSeraphim | help! |
| 16:04.08 | SilverSeraphim | i wanted to preview fonts for SC2 |
| 16:04.12 | SilverSeraphim | but this page is 404! http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/tutorials/2017-misc-text-styles-50-done/#p5 |
| 16:04.37 | SilverSeraphim | is there another page or did it get moved? |
| 16:05.20 | SilverSeraphim | nm i found it |
| 16:05.20 | SilverSeraphim | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/2017-misc-text-styles-75-done/ |
| 16:05.25 | Mexa|HomeHome | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/2017-misc-text-styles-75-done/ |
| 16:05.27 | Mexa|HomeHome | Aw |
| 16:05.30 | Mexa|HomeHome | You found it |
| 16:07.41 | SilverSeraphim | lol |
| 16:07.45 | SilverSeraphim | ty for helping me anyway =D |
| 16:07.53 | SilverSeraphim | i have another question also |
| 16:08.02 | SilverSeraphim | how do i make text centered horizontally |
| 16:08.10 | SilverSeraphim | like put the title of a dialog in the top center of the window? |
| 16:08.20 | SilverSeraphim | just do an offset til it looks right? =\ |
| 16:12.27 | Mexa|HomeHome | Well |
| 16:12.41 | Mexa|HomeHome | Set the title to nothing, and then create an dialog item label |
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| 16:12.50 | Mexa|HomeHome | And set it's achorpositions and stuff :) |
| 16:13.00 | Mexa|HomeHome | its anchorpositions |
| 16:13.16 | Mexa|HomeHome | That allows a more customizable title too |
| 16:13.28 | AlphA_VsT | no way |
| 16:13.41 | Mexa|HomeHome | yes way! |
| 16:13.53 | Mexa|HomeHome | Evenin Alpha |
| 16:14.40 | Mexa|HomeHome | SilverSeraphim, i realise I pretty much said what I said I guess |
| 16:14.46 | Mexa|HomeHome | *you |
| 16:14.53 | SilverSeraphim | uhh |
| 16:14.54 | Mexa|HomeHome | But that is the way to do it I think |
| 16:15.04 | SilverSeraphim | i think i am understanding it now |
| 16:15.26 | Mexa|HomeHome | Ask again otherwise. I am known to be silly in explanations |
| 16:15.27 | SilverSeraphim | i had the width set to 500, so even if the anchor was set to "top" (rather than "top left") it still appeared on the left side |
| 16:15.35 | Mexa|HomeHome | ah |
| 16:15.37 | Mexa|HomeHome | ¨Yeah |
| 16:15.44 | SilverSeraphim | when i cut the width down to 232, it's now perfectly centered |
| 16:15.55 | SilverSeraphim | guess it was like [Title ] |
| 16:15.59 | SilverSeraphim | or something to that effect |
| 16:16.05 | SilverSeraphim | so it WAS centered, but didn't look it |
| 16:16.06 | SilverSeraphim | =] |
| 16:16.11 | Mexa|HomeHome | ok:) |
| 16:16.30 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 16:16.56 | AlphA_VsT | dont forget about the defualt offsets 0.o |
| 16:17.38 | SilverSeraphim | right, those pick the actual position of the text location right? |
| 16:23.12 | AlphA_VsT | is it possible to make a revealer that uses liine of sight? |
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| 16:31.02 | Obatztrara | map night in about 30 minutes, right? :) |
| 16:33.47 | JademusSreg | Alph, popular question. The anser is that you'll need to calculate the cone yourself. |
| 16:36.36 | blub_ | is there any way to have flying units fly at an absolute height rather than relative to the terrain height? |
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| 16:37.34 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 16:37.37 | AlphA_VsT | how the fuck would i do that? |
| 16:38.25 | JademusSreg | blub, not that I know. |
| 16:38.44 | blub_ | this is an epic fail... basically, I store the unit#s absolute height in a custom value |
| 16:38.47 | blub_ | and... |
| 16:38.49 | blub_ | I have it float over a pit |
| 16:38.52 | blub_ | and I keep setting the height |
| 16:38.58 | blub_ | to "height - worldheight(a unit position)" |
| 16:39.02 | blub_ | and when it reaches the pit... |
| 16:39.07 | blub_ | it floats *HIGHER* |
| 16:39.13 | blub_ | by the height of the pit... |
| 16:39.21 | AlphA_VsT | ignore terrian height... |
| 16:39.23 | blub_ | hiehgt - worldheight is usually 0 |
| 16:39.27 | blub_ | and at the pit it's 1 |
| 16:39.44 | blub_ | and the unit height stays at the absolute 9 (which is the height of the starting terrain) |
| 16:39.48 | blub_ | when it reaches the pit of height 8 |
| 16:39.51 | blub_ | it floats up to height 10... |
| 16:39.56 | blub_ | how is 8 + 1 = 10 ??? |
| 16:40.07 | blub_ | 8 + (9 - 1) = 9 in my world >.< |
| 16:40.36 | blub_ | err |
| 16:40.38 | blub_ | 8 + (9 - 8) <.< |
| 16:40.58 | blub_ | this is awful |
| 16:41.04 | blub_ | how could that be? |
| 16:41.19 | blub_ | AlphA_VsT: can't, I need to keep the unit at an absolute height... |
| 16:41.25 | blub_ | which apperently doesn't work... |
| 16:41.38 | blub_ | because somehow goes higher when the terrain gets deeper... |
| 16:43.41 | blub_ | just doesn't get it >.< |
| 16:44.01 | AlphA_VsT | HUGS |
| 16:44.09 | blub_ | height of starting ground = 9, height of pit = 8.... stored unit height = 9... now... |
| 16:44.09 | Mexa|HomeHome | There is a way to set absolute height |
| 16:44.13 | blub_ | the unit is moved sideways |
| 16:44.19 | AlphA_VsT | ok |
| 16:44.26 | Mexa|HomeHome | But it will break when the unit moves I think |
| 16:44.35 | blub_ | and constantly moved to (unit height (9) - ground (9)) = 0 |
| 16:44.39 | blub_ | then it reaches the pit... |
| 16:44.50 | blub_ | and is moved to (unit height (9) - ground(8)) = 1 |
| 16:44.53 | AlphA_VsT | blub do you have a debug message displaying the untis height? |
| 16:44.58 | blub_ | AlphA_VsT: yes |
| 16:45.08 | blub_ | so the unit height is 1, the ground height is 8... |
| 16:45.23 | blub_ | as in, the unit height is changed to 1... ground is at height 8 |
| 16:45.27 | blub_ | and the unit floats at height 10... |
| 16:45.44 | blub_ | I'm assuming it's 10 because it appears as much higher as the pit is deeper |
| 16:45.48 | AlphA_VsT | does it work correctly when it goes up ramsp and shit? |
| 16:45.52 | Mexa|HomeHome | so what height do you want again, and to what relative z? |
| 16:46.07 | blub_ | I want it to be at an absolute height |
| 16:46.16 | blub_ | which I have stored in a custom value, which is 9 in my case |
| 16:46.32 | Mexa|HomeHome | absolute height relative the world then, I gues |
| 16:46.34 | Mexa|HomeHome | *guess |
| 16:46.47 | blub_ | absolute |
| 16:46.51 | blub_ | not relative to the ground |
| 16:46.55 | burne- | meh probly gona be late from map night |
| 16:46.59 | Mexa|HomeHome | I said world |
| 16:47.00 | burne- | did some homework |
| 16:47.01 | Mexa|HomeHome | not ground |
| 16:47.02 | blub_ | stored unit height = relative unit height + terrain height |
| 16:47.04 | burne- | but still havent run |
| 16:47.06 | blub_ | relative unit height at the beginning = 0 |
| 16:47.10 | blub_ | terrain height at the beginning = 9 |
| 16:47.14 | blub_ | so the stored absolute height = 9 |
| 16:47.39 | Mexa|HomeHome | sev |
| 16:47.41 | Mexa|HomeHome | *sec |
| 16:47.48 | AlphA_VsT | blub_, are you working with deformed terrian? |
| 16:48.01 | Mexa|HomeHome | I suppose you are altering it through a gameloop or timers? |
| 16:48.16 | blub_ | periodically, yes |
| 16:48.29 | Mexa|HomeHome | alright |
| 16:48.32 | blub_ | AlphA_VsT: cliff height |
| 16:48.39 | Mexa|HomeHome | It's an air unit right? |
| 16:48.42 | blub_ | oh wait a second |
| 16:48.45 | AlphA_VsT | deformed terrian doesnt change its height |
| 16:49.04 | Mexa|HomeHome | Keep in mind that air units follow the airPlane |
| 16:49.06 | Mexa|HomeHome | not ground |
| 16:49.28 | blub_ | oh wait a second |
| 16:49.31 | AlphA_VsT | or at least it used to not |
| 16:49.32 | blub_ | the height at the pit is |
| 16:49.34 | Mexa|HomeHome | As of what I know, you are aswell to check the worldheight at both ground and air planes |
| 16:49.41 | blub_ | 8.0, the height on the upper ground is 9.9 |
| 16:49.43 | blub_ | huh... |
| 16:49.49 | AlphA_VsT | no shit |
| 16:50.09 | blub_ | the pit is created with "lower cliff" |
| 16:50.34 | blub_ | so what... that doesn't change the fact taht it should work |
| 16:50.35 | AlphA_VsT | is it the lowest? no walkable? |
| 16:50.40 | blub_ | so, ground = 9.9 - let's say 10 |
| 16:50.42 | blub_ | pit = 8 |
| 16:50.44 | blub_ | no |
| 16:50.52 | blub_ | pit is walkable |
| 16:51.42 | AlphA_VsT | so the pit is ground level 0 |
| 16:51.49 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot2011-04-22%2018_51_15.jpg |
| 16:51.54 | blub_ | yes |
| 16:51.58 | blub_ | in a way :) |
| 16:52.15 | blub_ | ah let me put both stalkers in to show the diff |
| 16:52.29 | blub_ | (when they enter they morph into flying versions of stalkers :P) |
| 16:52.49 | AlphA_VsT | thats probably your issue |
| 16:52.54 | blub_ | no |
| 16:52.57 | AlphA_VsT | yes |
| 16:53.02 | blub_ | how would it? |
| 16:53.11 | Mexa|HomeHome | blub, what are those debug messages saying? |
| 16:53.27 | blub_ | left side is the stored unit height from when it firs tentered the beam |
| 16:53.32 | blub_ | right is the height of the terrain below it |
| 16:53.40 | blub_ | WorldHeight(c_heightMapTerrain, pos) |
| 16:53.42 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot2011-04-22%2018_52_34.jpg |
| 16:53.45 | blub_ | there |
| 16:53.47 | blub_ | both stalkers are now flying stalkers |
| 16:53.51 | blub_ | the one over the pit is too high |
| 16:54.11 | blub_ | it gets height 2, if I half it, to height 1, it is still too high |
| 16:54.21 | blub_ | but at 0 it drops to the ground |
| 16:54.48 | blub_ | in the last shot the lines with the higher number on the right side are the blue stalker |
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| 16:55.44 | AlphA_VsT | and yoru world height is set to 0? |
| 16:55.55 | AlphA_VsT | or 8? |
| 16:56.15 | blub_ | 8 |
| 16:56.23 | blub_ | I raised the whole map with raise cliff once |
| 16:56.24 | Mexa|HomeHome | blub_ |
| 16:56.27 | blub_ | then used lower clfif for the pit |
| 16:56.28 | blub_ | ocne |
| 16:56.50 | AlphA_VsT | are you useing what is it |
| 16:57.11 | AlphA_VsT | its height at poitn or unit height |
| 16:57.14 | Mexa|HomeHome | check aswell with c_heightMapAir |
| 16:57.28 | blub_ | AlphA_VsT: for what |
| 16:57.33 | blub_ | Mexa|HomeHome: mhhh, I shall try |
| 16:57.38 | AlphA_VsT | checking the units height? |
| 16:57.53 | blub_ | but shouldn't the air height be just as much lower there? :P |
| 16:58.02 | AlphA_VsT | no |
| 16:58.05 | blub_ | AlphA_VsT: I don't "check" it |
| 16:58.14 | blub_ | AlphA_VsT: I store it at the beginning - the absolute height - unitheight + worldheight |
| 16:58.30 | Mexa|HomeHome | worldheight of what? |
| 16:58.33 | AlphA_VsT | so it is unit height |
| 16:58.44 | Mexa|HomeHome | ground? |
| 16:58.51 | Mexa|HomeHome | Air units use the airplane too |
| 16:59.02 | Mexa|HomeHome | or only |
| 16:59.06 | blub_ | if I keep setting the unit height to height - worldheight(heightmapAir, pos) it drops into the pit |
| 16:59.07 | Mexa|HomeHome | Depends on the mover |
| 16:59.27 | blub_ | stored height that is |
| 17:00.43 | Mexa|HomeHome | ao |
| 17:00.46 | Mexa|HomeHome | so |
| 17:01.26 | AlphA_VsT | im checking one of my old maps 0.o |
| 17:01.30 | Mexa|HomeHome | So that is what you wanted right? |
| 17:02.02 | blub_ | Mexa|HomeHome: no |
| 17:02.05 | blub_ | Mexa|HomeHome: it shall not drop into it |
| 17:02.08 | blub_ | it shall float over it |
| 17:02.15 | Mexa|HomeHome | oh right |
| 17:02.35 | Mexa|HomeHome | The unit is set as an air unit, before I start thinking again, right? |
| 17:02.43 | Mexa|HomeHome | I mean, the move I guess |
| 17:02.46 | Mexa|HomeHome | *mover |
| 17:02.59 | blub_ | wtf |
| 17:03.28 | blub_ | worldheight for air doesn't change >.< |
| 17:03.32 | blub_ | 9.9 on high and lowground |
| 17:03.55 | Mexa|HomeHome | I made some testmap awhile back demonstrating heighmap differences |
| 17:04.25 | AlphA_VsT | ok blub |
| 17:04.32 | Mexa|HomeHome | Let me see if I can find that, incase it helps |
| 17:05.09 | AlphA_VsT | use "ground height at postion of unit" |
| 17:05.17 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot2011-04-22%2019_04_32.jpg |
| 17:05.22 | AlphA_VsT | the unit height gives a wrong number |
| 17:05.59 | blub_ | that function doesn't exist :P |
| 17:06.19 | blub_ | ah |
| 17:06.22 | AlphA_VsT | height at point |
| 17:06.25 | blub_ | that's the "grammar text" for that |
| 17:06.27 | blub_ | that IS WorldHeight() |
| 17:06.32 | blub_ | and that's what I'm using |
| 17:06.36 | AlphA_VsT | oh is it? |
| 17:06.39 | blub_ | in that last shot you see that value for ground and air |
| 17:06.51 | blub_ | you see both stalkers again |
| 17:06.55 | blub_ | air and ground height for both of them |
| 17:07.03 | blub_ | and for both I do: |
| 17:07.10 | AlphA_VsT | ok then |
| 17:07.35 | blub_ | Change Unit Height To "Stored Height - WorldHeight(Ground)" |
| 17:08.34 | Mexa|HomeHome | If you guys havent figured when i am back from dinner, I hope I'll find that damn testmap:v |
| 17:08.38 | Mexa|HomeHome | Seeya later |
| 17:08.48 | AlphA_VsT | then shouldnt your math just be world height + 1? |
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| 17:09.03 | Bounty | HAI GUISE |
| 17:09.17 | Mexa|HomeHome | BAI BOJUENTH |
| 17:09.26 | Bounty | LOLWUT |
| 17:09.33 | Mexa|HomeHome | typo |
| 17:09.37 | Mexa|HomeHome | Brb dinner |
| 17:09.37 | AlphA_VsT | ok |
| 17:10.15 | Mexa|HomeHome | I obviously said "Bounteh" in a hurry:p |
| 17:10.27 | AlphA_VsT | no you didnt |
| 17:10.51 | Bounty | So |
| 17:10.57 | Bounty | is there some way to make a unit not have a shadow? |
| 17:11.03 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 17:11.09 | AlphA_VsT | silly bounty <3 |
| 17:11.13 | Bounty | what? lol |
| 17:11.14 | AlphA_VsT | its under actor |
| 17:11.45 | Bounty | show blob shadow flag? |
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| 17:13.31 | Bounty | for some reason |
| 17:13.34 | blub_ | so, it stays at "world height 11" but it's impossible to have it stay at world height 10 because that would make it drop into the pit... |
| 17:13.39 | SilverSeraphim | if i basically have a dialog leaderboard, is there anyway to set the elements of the leaderboard equal to variables? or do i have to manually update the dialog? |
| 17:13.39 | Bounty | the Mengsk Statue leaves a blob |
| 17:13.41 | Bounty | on the ground |
| 17:13.46 | Bounty | where it was created |
| 17:13.51 | Bounty | if u move it, it stays |
| 17:13.52 | JademusSreg | Splat actor/ |
| 17:14.05 | blub_ | oh I had a connection problem there :S |
| 17:14.05 | Bounty | well i dont understand how that could happen |
| 17:14.10 | blub_ | did I miss something? |
| 17:14.11 | Bounty | because i took a probe and duplicated it |
| 17:14.18 | Bounty | and just applied the Mengsk statue model |
| 17:14.41 | AlphA_VsT | SilverSeraphim, use global variables 0.o |
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| 17:16.28 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot2011-04-22%2019_15_51.jpg |
| 17:16.31 | blub_ | there... |
| 17:16.37 | blub_ | that happens when always setting unit height to exactly 1 |
| 17:16.44 | blub_ | for some reason, the pit is "ignored" |
| 17:16.47 | blub_ | but when setting it to 0 |
| 17:16.49 | blub_ | it drops into the pit |
| 17:17.00 | blub_ | as in, it falls 1 unit downward on the highground |
| 17:17.05 | blub_ | but *2* units downward on the lowground |
| 17:17.32 | Bounty | I wish more doodads had death animations |
| 17:17.45 | blub_ | this is clearly wrong... |
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| 17:18.35 | Bounty | im still having issues with the death models not going away JademusSreg |
| 17:18.40 | Bounty | and im using a duplicated probe... |
| 17:18.57 | blub_ | okay so apparently a height < 1 means "drop to ground" |
| 17:19.01 | blub_ | well that sucks :( |
| 17:19.26 | blub_ | and yes, it is relative to the air-height... |
| 17:19.37 | blub_ | and the airheight is just plain stupid for my purposes :P |
| 17:20.43 | Bounty | Any ideas JademusSreg? |
| 17:21.05 | Bounty | seems to only be on doodad models that have death animations |
| 17:21.29 | blub_ | YAY |
| 17:21.33 | blub_ | custom movers ftw |
| 17:21.41 | blub_ | with height map = ground and pathing = flying |
| 17:21.47 | blub_ | perfect |
| 17:22.31 | Bounty | Anyone know? |
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| 17:29.40 | Bounty | Nobody? |
| 17:30.14 | AlphA_VsT | destory actor on death? |
| 17:30.27 | Bounty | it should do that automatically |
| 17:30.30 | Bounty | its a duplicated probe |
| 17:30.37 | AlphA_VsT | so |
| 17:30.41 | AlphA_VsT | try it? |
| 17:30.43 | Bounty | so? probes alrdy have that |
| 17:30.44 | Bounty | i did |
| 17:30.56 | AlphA_VsT | i meant with a trigger :P |
| 17:31.00 | Bounty | did that to |
| 17:31.36 | AlphA_VsT | um |
| 17:32.12 | Bounty | the model ALWAYS stays around |
| 17:32.21 | Bounty | its a doodad death model |
| 17:32.25 | Bounty | physics based it looks like |
| 17:33.40 | Mexa|HomeHome | blub_ did you try to change the unit flag being relative |
| 17:33.45 | Mexa|HomeHome | Hm, whatever it is called |
| 17:33.59 | JademusSreg | Hi Bounty. |
| 17:34.34 | Bounty | Did you ever figure that question i asked the other day Jamemus? |
| 17:34.39 | Bounty | about the models sticking around |
| 17:34.41 | Bounty | after death |
| 17:34.42 | burne- | HJM COMPLETE! |
| 17:35.18 | JademusSreg | Death models or the actor isn't being destroyed. |
| 17:35.43 | burne- | HRM COMPLETE! |
| 17:36.03 | Bounty | It only does it for doodad models with death animations though Jademus |
| 17:36.06 | Bounty | no other model sticks around |
| 17:36.10 | Bounty | its a duplicated probe actor |
| 17:36.15 | Mexa|HomeHome | blub_, what I mean is UnitSetState(yourunit, c_unitStateIgnoreTerrainZ, true); |
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| 17:37.14 | Mexa|HomeHome | burne-, what is HJM and HRM? |
| 17:37.56 | burne- | im glad you asked |
| 17:38.05 | Bounty | ah fuck it |
| 17:38.06 | allenmelon | are the sc2 trilogy games gonna be standalone games? or expansions packs where you have to have the previous game to play? |
| 17:38.10 | Bounty | Mortal Kombat time |
| 17:38.15 | burne- | HJM = homework, jogging, mapping. HRM = homework, running, mapping |
| 17:38.16 | burne- | :) |
| 17:39.19 | Mexa|HomeHome | :> ok |
| 17:39.52 | Mexa|HomeHome | allenmelon, I think they are going to be expansions |
| 17:39.57 | Mexa|HomeHome | But standalone would have been nice |
| 17:40.30 | Mexa|HomeHome | Worked awesome in Company of Heroes, if you are familiar with that |
| 17:40.30 | AlphA_VsT | they wouldnt make as much money |
| 17:40.35 | AlphA_VsT | so of course they will |
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| 17:40.45 | maknyuzz | hi guyz |
| 17:41.03 | maknyuzz | happy easter |
| 17:41.04 | Mexa|HomeHome | Alpha, those who bought Cataclysm, we're probably a very majority already playing |
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| 17:41.21 | Mexa|HomeHome | Do you think people payed both for wow and all its expansions to get Cataclysm :v? |
| 17:41.39 | Mexa|HomeHome | maknyuzz, you too! |
| 17:42.08 | Shawn|rawr | The whole wow set without cata was 20 bucks before cataclysm came out so why not |
| 17:42.14 | maknyuzz | yea |
| 17:42.37 | maknyuzz | hey i've seen a lot of my friends willing to spend $200 for League of Legends champion skin |
| 17:42.46 | Shawn|rawr | I was tempted to buy it and I hate wow |
| 17:42.53 | maknyuzz | heck, the blue unicorn horse netted $5M in 24 hours for blizzard |
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| 17:43.12 | maknyuzz | so i think they'll buy all the expanstion |
| 17:43.49 | Mexa|HomeHome | Oh wait |
| 17:43.49 | Mexa|HomeHome | so there are microtransactions in LoL? |
| 17:43.52 | maknyuzz | yes there are |
| 17:43.53 | AlphA_VsT | when did we start talking about wow? |
| 17:43.55 | slightlyrandom | Regarding the original question, would you rather a cheap'ish expansion or a full price stand alone? |
| 17:43.57 | maknyuzz | u can buy IP boost |
| 17:43.57 | Mexa|HomeHome | I never knew |
| 17:44.00 | maknyuzz | buy exp boost |
| 17:44.00 | AlphA_VsT | of course there is |
| 17:44.02 | maknyuzz | rune pages |
| 17:44.07 | maknyuzz | champion skin |
| 17:44.09 | AlphA_VsT | thats why the game sucks |
| 17:44.21 | Shawn|rawr | Jademussreg I should have my computer back tomorrow, then spend Sunday restoring all my programs and stuff and then be ready to get back in sc2 |
| 17:44.24 | Mexa|HomeHome | I'd not see it like that |
| 17:44.33 | maknyuzz | but the microtransaction doesnt affact gameplay though |
| 17:44.36 | Mexa|HomeHome | If the microtransactions gives an unfair advantage to the game |
| 17:44.39 | Mexa|HomeHome | Then it sucks |
| 17:44.43 | maknyuzz | nope |
| 17:44.46 | maknyuzz | just skin |
| 17:44.49 | Mexa|HomeHome | If it is the ideal of "time vs money" it is fine |
| 17:44.50 | maknyuzz | just to show off |
| 17:44.50 | AlphA_VsT | oh lol |
| 17:45.01 | Mexa|HomeHome | Or effects to show off |
| 17:45.04 | maknyuzz | yea |
| 17:45.08 | maknyuzz | they are basically sellling Actor |
| 17:45.09 | AlphA_VsT | then people are fucking stupid |
| 17:45.09 | slightlyrandom | Camouflage isn't advantage? |
| 17:45.10 | maknyuzz | and Model |
| 17:45.23 | maknyuzz | but the skin is super creative imo |
| 17:45.28 | maknyuzz | very very creative |
| 17:45.33 | slightlyrandom | recolour ? |
| 17:45.35 | AlphA_VsT | im so sure |
| 17:45.46 | maknyuzz | not just recolor |
| 17:45.50 | Mexa|HomeHome | Alpha, it's a market people pay for. Since it is optional, don't judge it to be suckish due to only that reason:P |
| 17:45.57 | maknyuzz | for example there is this badger scout |
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| 17:46.17 | maknyuzz | there is a skin for badger astronout |
| 17:46.27 | AlphA_VsT | isnt the game called lol? |
| 17:46.31 | maknyuzz | changed the whole animation from shooting dart to laser beam |
| 17:46.35 | maknyuzz | but same damage |
| 17:46.35 | AlphA_VsT | i prove my case |
| 17:46.39 | Mexa|HomeHome | :3 |
| 17:46.43 | blub_ | Mexa|HomeHome: OH |
| 17:46.46 | blub_ | there is such a state? |
| 17:46.50 | Mexa|HomeHome | I'll stay here on my neutral state |
| 17:46.54 | Mexa|HomeHome | blub, yeah |
| 17:46.58 | Mexa|HomeHome | Hopefully that can help |
| 17:47.18 | Mexa|HomeHome | Although blub_, I think if the unit is moved by orders, the state will reset |
| 17:47.29 | Mexa|HomeHome | Not sure if it resets by UnitSetPosition |
| 17:47.50 | Mexa|HomeHome | Anyhow, in that case you'll have to enable it in every interval |
| 17:47.58 | Mexa|HomeHome | But hopefully not. |
| 17:47.58 | blub_ | I'll check |
| 17:48.23 | Shawn|rawr | I can't wait to screw around in the editor again |
| 17:48.25 | blub_ | Mexa|HomeHome: state doesn't seem to be persistent |
| 17:48.36 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 17:48.36 | Shawn|rawr | It's been over 3 weeks now |
| 17:48.55 | Shawn|rawr | :D |
| 17:48.55 | Mexa|HomeHome | blub_ when does it change? |
| 17:49.05 | Mexa|HomeHome | I mean, when does it reset |
| 17:49.27 | Shawn|rawr | I wonder if they fixed my keyboard |
| 17:49.39 | blub_ | I presume at UnitSetPosition |
| 17:51.09 | blub_ | but |
| 17:51.14 | blub_ | I can use it in combination with that mover |
| 17:51.21 | blub_ | and keep setting the height |
| 17:51.26 | blub_ | Mexa|HomeHome: looks better now |
| 17:51.31 | maknyuzz | very creative though LoL. there is a ninja female character (from japan obviously) |
| 17:51.36 | maknyuzz | during the earthquake |
| 17:51.37 | blub_ | without that state-flag it bounces a little when it moves over an edge |
| 17:51.39 | maknyuzz | there is new skin |
| 17:51.45 | maknyuzz | with Red Cross nurse |
| 17:51.58 | maknyuzz | they sell it for $5, all proceed goes to charity |
| 17:52.05 | maknyuzz | in 1 week 150k net |
| 17:56.15 | blub_ | some change I made screwed it up now :O |
| 17:56.52 | Stewox | gsddddddxgesggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggse |
| 17:57.28 | Stewox | mah sry , cleaning the keyboard ... |
| 17:58.21 | burne- | blob_ |
| 17:58.24 | burne- | wana come map night? |
| 17:58.30 | burne- | blub_ |
| 17:58.31 | burne- | :D |
| 17:58.34 | burne- | whateverrrr |
| 17:58.45 | blub_ | in a minute |
| 17:58.48 | blub_ | okay got it working nwo |
| 17:59.01 | blub_ | mostly :S |
| 17:59.05 | blub_ | that flag is awful |
| 17:59.06 | burne- | aww but we are waiting for 1 more |
| 17:59.08 | burne- | 1 slot only! |
| 17:59.21 | burne- | its 6v6 card shuffle |
| 17:59.38 | burne- | anyone else |
| 17:59.43 | blub_ | what? |
| 17:59.44 | burne- | map night is on! |
| 17:59.46 | burne- | we need one more for card shuffle |
| 17:59.54 | burne- | 11 people waiting |
| 17:59.59 | burne- | we need 1 more for fullhouse |
| 18:00.00 | burne- | -_- |
| 18:00.02 | blub_ | oh, nope :p |
| 18:00.14 | burne- | kk |
| 18:01.30 | Dekar | eu mapnight btw |
| 18:02.09 | Dekar | Helral|Afk |
| 18:02.11 | Dekar | help us! |
| 18:02.16 | Dekar | in dire need |
| 18:02.26 | Dekar | of players |
| 18:02.29 | Dekar | and cats |
| 18:02.29 | Shawn|rawr | I'm on an iPad. O noes |
| 18:03.00 | Dekar | im on a horse! |
| 18:03.10 | Dekar | the map is now diamonds |
| 18:04.45 | Shawn|rawr | A horse? Get off my wife! |
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| 18:05.29 | Shawn|rawr | Speaking of rodrigo, he's so ghey |
| 18:05.36 | Mexa|HomeHome | too bad, I am eating now |
| 18:05.42 | Mexa|HomeHome | No time for EU map night :v |
| 18:08.20 | Shawn|rawr | Alright. I'm off. |
| 18:09.49 | Dekar | i think my sc2 crashed |
| 18:09.58 | Dekar | if anyone from mapnight is reading this |
| 18:09.59 | Dekar | :D |
| 18:12.25 | blub_ | Mexa|HomeHome: ty for the hint |
| 18:12.32 | blub_ | Mexa|HomeHome: http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot2011-04-22%2020_11_40.jpg |
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| 18:37.04 | UloseTheGame | Hey guys |
| 18:37.58 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 18:39.20 | UloseTheGame | Hey Jade, what's going on? |
| 18:39.51 | JademusSreg | Refactoring Photon Cycle code, running speed tests. |
| 18:40.10 | JademusSreg | Execution speed, unrelated to Photon Cycle work. |
| 18:40.17 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 18:41.08 | UloseTheGame | Need one more for Lotr if anyone wants to come |
| 18:42.28 | UloseTheGame | Anyone for Lord of the Rings? |
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| 18:44.26 | Mexa|HomeHome | blub_ cool, np :) |
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| 18:54.18 | Nash|327 | PROTAL R DOEN |
| 18:54.23 | AlphA_VsT | i can never make new units correctly |
| 18:54.26 | AlphA_VsT | grrrr |
| 18:54.29 | blub_ | Nash|327: huh? |
| 18:54.41 | blub_ | AlphA_VsT: lol, how come? |
| 18:54.42 | AlphA_VsT | he beat portal |
| 18:54.46 | AlphA_VsT | duh |
| 18:55.01 | Nash|327 | Portal 2 even |
| 18:55.08 | AlphA_VsT | my models never show lol |
| 18:55.14 | AlphA_VsT | no shit |
| 18:55.56 | Dustin | PORTAL 2 DONE! |
| 18:55.57 | blub_ | AlphA_VsT: why not? :P |
| 18:56.02 | blub_ | Dustin: sp and coop? |
| 18:56.05 | Dustin | SP |
| 18:56.07 | AlphA_VsT | i dont know |
| 18:56.11 | blub_ | if you want a coop partner for a few hours... <- ^^ |
| 18:56.17 | blub_ | I have no problem playing it rhough again :P |
| 18:56.22 | Dustin | Im like 3/4 done with coop |
| 18:56.27 | AlphA_VsT | if i knew that i wouldnt have the issue |
| 18:56.35 | Deaod | how long did the SP take you? |
| 18:56.43 | Nash|327 | coop, that requires another player D: |
| 18:57.00 | Dustin | like 8 hours I think |
| 18:57.05 | Mexa|HomeHome | For me it took about 8 hours too |
| 18:57.14 | Deaod | hmmm |
| 18:57.17 | JademusSreg | I'll get a Portal bundle someday. |
| 18:57.21 | Dustin | Fun as fuck |
| 18:57.30 | Dustin | Puzzles were so much harder |
| 18:57.38 | blub_ | which is good :) |
| 18:57.41 | Dustin | Hell ya |
| 18:57.46 | Mexa|HomeHome | Dustin, somewhat lots of events you didn't expect:D |
| 18:57.52 | Dustin | hehe ya |
| 18:58.00 | blub_ | I'm hoping I can make at least a few hard puzzles in my portal map :D |
| 18:58.02 | Mexa|HomeHome | I wont say more, as it may result in spoilinh |
| 18:58.02 | Dustin | Wheatley was so fucking funny |
| 18:58.09 | Mexa|HomeHome | Yeah |
| 18:58.27 | Nash|327 | it had more timing puzzles |
| 18:58.31 | Mexa|HomeHome | I'll tell you |
| 18:58.36 | Mexa|HomeHome | If you had fun with the campaign |
| 18:58.45 | Mexa|HomeHome | you will have twice the fun with coop or more |
| 18:58.52 | Dustin | Yeah Im having a ball with it |
| 18:58.53 | Mexa|HomeHome | They really made an excellent job there |
| 18:59.00 | Nash|327 | OTHER PEOPLE D:! |
| 18:59.09 | JademusSreg | Coop, fun^2 |
| 18:59.27 | Mexa|HomeHome | I played it with an irl friend and over skype |
| 18:59.32 | Mexa|HomeHome | Worked fine :) |
| 18:59.40 | Dustin | Yeah, fuck the ingame voip, used Vent :P |
| 18:59.42 | Mexa|HomeHome | And a blast |
| 18:59.44 | blub_ | it even works without skype :D |
| 19:00.01 | blub_ | those "command"-gestures you can make |
| 19:00.04 | blub_ | are really helpful |
| 19:00.14 | Mexa|HomeHome | yeah |
| 19:00.17 | Deaod | hrm, coop didnt take me more than 5-6 hours |
| 19:00.22 | Deaod | same as SP |
| 19:00.35 | Mexa|HomeHome | There are rumours you might skip levels |
| 19:00.42 | Mexa|HomeHome | At some places |
| 19:00.51 | Mexa|HomeHome | Not sure about them |
| 19:00.55 | Deaod | thatd surprise me |
| 19:01.19 | Mexa|HomeHome | Or, that people which didn't add it on steam got less to play with |
| 19:01.43 | blub_ | there sure are some places you can "cheat" by putting a portal over a corner |
| 19:01.46 | blub_ | XD |
| 19:01.51 | Mexa|HomeHome | heh:p |
| 19:01.59 | Deaod | i think you do skip some levels during SP |
| 19:02.35 | SilverSeraphim | how do i import a library into my map? |
| 19:02.48 | Mexa|HomeHome | Anyways, game was fun though |
| 19:03.38 | Mexa|HomeHome | Silver, if you have the "show library" enabled in the trigger editor |
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| 19:03.56 | Mexa|HomeHome | You could simply right click in the window, and then "import library" |
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| 19:04.44 | SilverSeraphim | do i do that in the Built-In folder or the Liberty one? |
| 19:04.48 | SilverSeraphim | or make a new one? |
| 19:05.03 | SilverSeraphim | oh nm |
| 19:05.09 | SilverSeraphim | it makes a new folder when i import it |
| 19:05.12 | SilverSeraphim | cool, ty Mexa|HomeHome |
| 19:05.17 | Mexa|HomeHome | np |
| 19:05.21 | Mexa|HomeHome | Afk family time |
| 19:05.50 | SilverSeraphim | do i need to reload my map for the library to "take effect"? |
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| 19:06.40 | Xapti | Anyone know why siege tank takes 100% damage from another siege tank's splash when an infested terran egg is beside it? |
| 19:07.29 | Xapti | Seiege tank's 100% damage radius is less than 0.5 (0.47ish), and infested terran egg is radius 0.5) |
| 19:07.37 | SilverSeraphim | maybe the egg is small enough that the receiving tank is within---what he said |
| 19:07.39 | SilverSeraphim | =p |
| 19:07.46 | SilverSeraphim | oh |
| 19:07.54 | SilverSeraphim | well that was my guess, that the egg was smaller |
| 19:07.57 | AlphA_VsT | tahts odd |
| 19:07.58 | SilverSeraphim | guess that's not it |
| 19:08.19 | SilverSeraphim | maybe the egg is overlapping the tank somewhat? |
| 19:10.17 | Xapti | but how does that happen? |
| 19:11.08 | Xapti | isn't that just a model thing? |
| 19:11.22 | SilverSeraphim | maybe even though the egg is 0.5, it's center is only required to be placed .25 away from something else's center? |
| 19:11.29 | SilverSeraphim | idk if that makes sense |
| 19:11.44 | Xapti | assuming it's possible, how does one do that? |
| 19:11.59 | SilverSeraphim | wasn't there something like that bug with the ultralisk originally? |
| 19:12.12 | SilverSeraphim | like the way splash worked was in proximity to the target being hit |
| 19:12.17 | Xapti | yes, |
| 19:12.21 | SilverSeraphim | so if the ultra hit a building, any marines around that building would die |
| 19:12.25 | SilverSeraphim | even if they were on the other side of it |
| 19:12.28 | SilverSeraphim | maybe it is that same bug? |
| 19:12.31 | Mexa|HomeHome | hah, the classic SCV rage |
| 19:12.35 | SilverSeraphim | =D |
| 19:12.46 | Xapti | although sege tank uses a normal splash attack for it's damage |
| 19:12.55 | Xapti | ultralisk had a custom one I think |
| 19:13.36 | Xapti | but yeah that's what I'm thinking, splash radius is from the outside of the target, not the center |
| 19:13.49 | SilverSeraphim | yeah, that is probably it |
| 19:14.03 | SilverSeraphim | which is bad news for siege tanks |
| 19:14.05 | Xapti | but blizzard said they made it from the center in a patch... |
| 19:14.09 | SilverSeraphim | but hey, zerg can use the handicap ;) |
| 19:14.21 | SilverSeraphim | well they made the ULTRA from the center =p |
| 19:18.03 | AlphA_VsT | getting better |
| 19:18.44 | AlphA_VsT | lol if your that fucking ai doesnt matter :P |
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| 19:41.53 | Mexa|HomeHome | Hmm.. Do anybody know what a player beacon is? |
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| 19:44.29 | QueenGambit | hey everyone |
| 19:44.31 | SilverSeraphim | has anyone used Dialog Designer? |
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| 19:49.41 | SilverSeraphim | no one has used the Dialog Designer map? |
| 19:51.13 | QueenGambit | i have |
| 19:51.51 | QueenGambit | its that ingame map that works like a dialog tool where you can create dialogs and change the size and see it |
| 19:51.57 | QueenGambit | right? |
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| 19:56.54 | blub_ | and what does it do then? |
| 19:57.01 | blub_ | print a script you can copypaste? |
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| 20:06.54 | Bounty | Hai fags |
| 20:06.57 | Bounty | >< |
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| 20:30.59 | Dekar | ~seen JademusSreg |
| 20:31.12 | purl | jademussreg is currently on #sc2mapster (1d 6h 20m 43s). Has said a total of 702 messages. Is idling for 1h 32m 3s, last said: 'Coop, fun^2'. |
| 20:32.57 | SilverSeraphim | if i am creating a Dialog leaderboard, do i need to write a trigger(s) that will manually update the dialog? or can i somehow set the text strings equal to variables that will display the updates as the variables change? |
| 20:36.39 | blub_ | if you can find a function to bind a variable to the element... then you can use that, but I've only seen "set text" functions |
| 20:36.44 | blub_ | and that's definitely static |
| 20:38.18 | Mexa|Afk | Movietime! |
| 20:48.13 | montagg | SilverSeraphim: What in-game values is your leaderboard representing? |
| 20:56.19 | Dustin | Portal 2 coop = done |
| 20:56.52 | AlphA_VsT | getting closer |
| 20:59.14 | Nash|327 | kittuns |
| 20:59.50 | SilverSeraphim | my dialog leaderboard is going to show income, a progress bar, and available funds |
| 20:59.55 | SilverSeraphim | oh montagg left =[ |
| 21:00.21 | AlphA_VsT | for each player? |
| 21:01.23 | SilverSeraphim | AlphA_VsT: yes |
| 21:01.33 | SilverSeraphim | it has to be different for each player |
| 21:01.43 | SilverSeraphim | are you not allowed to have progress bars that only show up for a single player? |
| 21:03.49 | SilverSeraphim | oh nevermind, you just have to Create Dialog Item |
| 21:03.53 | SilverSeraphim | then choose progress bar |
| 21:04.18 | AlphA_VsT | yeah you can i was just thinking tis a bit odd |
| 21:04.23 | AlphA_VsT | but what ever |
| 21:05.02 | SilverSeraphim | hmm, it seems that when you create a progress bar it doesn't let you set all the parameters in the creation command |
| 21:05.13 | SilverSeraphim | how exactly do i reference that item? |
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| 21:06.22 | nodgene | GENTLEMEN AND LADIES |
| 21:06.38 | nodgene | Anyone in the EU region like to take part in a playtest for a deathmatch micro sort of game? |
| 21:07.53 | nodgene | ... |
| 21:07.55 | nodgene | maybe not |
| 21:09.25 | nodgene | BUT YOU SURE? |
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| 21:10.12 | nodgene | kk |
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| 21:17.04 | Test_ | hi |
| 21:17.21 | Test_ | anyone in here know the irc server for THE Card Game in sc2 ? |
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| 21:36.34 | JademusSreg | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.58 | JademusSreg | 220 l; |
| 21:37.41 | JademusSreg | 3 |
| 21:43.51 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 21:44.08 | AlphA_VsT | wtf |
| 21:44.58 | AlphA_VsT | why the hell are you so random Lilianna 0.o |
| 21:45.42 | Lilianna | Why should I not be? |
| 21:46.03 | Lilianna | LRG PEPS I |
| 21:46.07 | Lilianna | 1 BGS-BF |
| 21:46.09 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 21:46.16 | AlphA_VsT | for puppies |
| 21:46.24 | Lilianna | I dont like dogs |
| 21:46.41 | AlphA_VsT | i said puppies not dogs geez |
| 21:46.51 | Lilianna | they are the same! |
| 21:46.52 | Lilianna | :P |
| 21:47.01 | AlphA_VsT | Lies |
| 21:48.58 | nodgene | HERE |
| 21:49.05 | nodgene | Anyone like to try a custom map on EU? |
| 21:49.17 | AlphA_VsT | if i was eu |
| 21:49.23 | nodgene | alas |
| 21:49.25 | AlphA_VsT | but like everyone in here is eu |
| 21:49.38 | nodgene | ANYONE IN EU DEN? |
| 21:50.12 | Dustin | Lol eu |
| 21:50.20 | JademusSreg | Dekar? |
| 21:50.30 | Dekar | yes |
| 21:50.38 | JademusSreg | You were paging me earlier? |
| 21:50.41 | Dekar | we played photo cycles at mapnight and i won !111 |
| 21:51.02 | JademusSreg | (The above non-sense is from my daughter.) |
| 21:51.07 | JademusSreg | Congrats! =D |
| 21:52.15 | Lilianna | Hehe |
| 21:52.25 | JademusSreg | How was the general response to the map, Dekar? |
| 21:52.36 | Dekar | some disliked the camera control |
| 21:52.43 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 21:53.48 | JademusSreg | They can cry about it. Why someone would want a less precise and less intuitive control scheme for a lightbikes game is beyond me. |
| 21:53.54 | JademusSreg | =D |
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| 21:57.18 | JademusSreg | Motive, will you be hosting map night tonight? |
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| 22:03.41 | AlphA_VsT | oh that makes sense |
| 22:09.30 | Ashamed | omg i am still fighting with these christians lol |
| 22:15.44 | AlphA_VsT | what makes a unit follow another unit? |
| 22:21.41 | JademusSreg | Patrol |
| 22:21.51 | Ashamed | alpha lots of thingz do |
| 22:25.32 | AlphA_VsT | trlling a unit to attack while its wepon is on cooldown causes it to move to the target 0.o |
| 22:25.37 | AlphA_VsT | telling |
| 22:25.41 | AlphA_VsT | how do you stop that |
| 22:38.18 | Ashamed | i bet you can have a trigger check the cool down |
| 22:38.20 | Ashamed | and stop it |
| 22:38.37 | Ashamed | telling a unit to attack is litteraly telling it to click the attack button and go to that location with attack |
| 22:38.47 | Ashamed | it just tells the unit to attack anything while going to its position |
| 22:39.02 | Ashamed | just like it would work if you used attack to move around |
| 22:44.35 | AlphA_VsT | yeah i tired that sorta |
| 22:44.58 | AlphA_VsT | i just changed a few things that make more sense |
| 22:47.14 | AlphA_VsT | i still probably should though |
| 22:55.24 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:55.31 | AlphA_VsT | why wont that work? |
| 22:58.02 | AlphA_VsT | is it backwards? |
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| 23:13.43 | AlphA_VsT | i jsut fucking disabled the weapon |
| 23:14.04 | Mexa|Afk | Jademus, awkvard or delayyed, it is just a rock and a hard place |
| 23:16.56 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 23:17.48 | Mexa|Afk | speaking in regards the camera control |
| 23:18.43 | JademusSreg | Camera control is awesome. Upon this within the context of the map there can be no debate; it is optimal. |
| 23:19.10 | Mexa|Afk | yes |
| 23:19.17 | Mexa|Afk | I agreed on that |
| 23:19.22 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 23:19.45 | Mexa|Afk | But it is still an unusual method, whivh ppl need to get familiar with:p |
| 23:25.26 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 23:26.03 | JademusSreg | Yup. Just takes time. |
| 23:26.27 | AlphA_VsT | i have not played it yet |
| 23:27.32 | Mexa|Afk | ~seen Bounty |
| 23:27.34 | purl | bounty <442d304d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.48.77> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3h 20m 37s ago, saying: '><'. |
| 23:27.56 | Mexa|Afk | The usual phrase. |
| 23:28.38 | Mexa|Afk | Hey Jademus? |
| 23:29.01 | Mexa|Afk | You don't happend to know what the player beacon natives are for, do you? |
| 23:31.43 | Bibendus | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 23:50.14 | Bounty | JademusSreg, you there? |
| 23:53.35 | Mexa|Afk | Bounty |
| 23:53.41 | Bounty | Mexa |
| 23:53.54 | Mexa|Afk | You need to fix the version of your map you sent me |
| 23:53.59 | Bounty | ? |
| 23:53.59 | Mexa|Afk | It is giving me a warning |
| 23:54.11 | Bounty | about what? |
| 23:54.14 | Mexa|Afk | sec, will paste |
| 23:56.47 | Mexa|Afk | Bounty, Warning: ModelLink[Probe] Model Assets\Skyboxes\AiurSkybox\AiurSkybox.m3; Properties detected for attach point Ref_Weapon which does not exist. |
| 23:56.57 | Bounty | oh |
| 23:56.58 | Bounty | yeah thats fine |
| 23:56.59 | Bounty | ignore that |
| 23:57.05 | Mexa|Afk | hum' |
| 23:57.11 | Bounty | thats a new error that pops up |
| 23:57.15 | Bounty | *shrug* |
| 23:57.18 | Bounty | it doesnt do anything |
| 23:59.48 | Bounty | Mexa, are you any good with the data editor? |
