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| 01:46.05 | SoulTaker_ | i got marsara to work no problem |
| 01:46.25 | SoulTaker_ | hwo would i tell it to play work animation? |
| 01:46.27 | SoulTaker_ | trigger? |
| 01:49.15 | AlphA_VsT | fuck |
| 01:49.25 | AlphA_VsT | how do i stop the computer from using blink |
| 01:49.27 | AlphA_VsT | :( |
| 01:50.03 | SoulTaker_ | disable blink? |
| 01:50.18 | SoulTaker_ | use a trigger to disable blink for ai |
| 01:50.19 | AlphA_VsT | it needs to be enabled |
| 01:50.45 | SoulTaker_ | comp blinks randomly? |
| 01:50.58 | SoulTaker_ | u want them to blink at a specific moment? |
| 01:51.02 | JademusSreg | Sure, or actor event. |
| 01:51.54 | AlphA_VsT | its blinking when i order it a comand to attack to a point |
| 01:52.03 | AlphA_VsT | and then stops moving |
| 01:57.00 | AlphA_VsT | how can i just turn off the ai |
| 01:57.08 | AlphA_VsT | making it uncomandable didnt even help |
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| 02:01.54 | AlphA_VsT | so fucking stupid |
| 02:02.02 | AlphA_VsT | i tell it to patrol and it works fine |
| 02:02.12 | AlphA_VsT | but attack region wont |
| 02:02.14 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 02:03.53 | ProzaicMuze | Yes |
| 02:03.56 | ProzaicMuze | I am here |
| 02:04.00 | ProzaicMuze | tremble before me |
| 02:04.01 | ProzaicMuze | boo |
| 02:05.23 | AlphA_VsT | 3 hours later |
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| 02:08.41 | Bounty | Hai guys |
| 02:09.52 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 02:19.41 | JademusSreg | I've got 8 tracks. |
| 02:23.30 | Vailreth | heh] |
| 02:25.10 | AlphA_VsT | how can i turn off teh stupid ai? |
| 02:28.04 | JademusSreg | I think I'll drop both of the Torley Wong tracks, though. |
| 02:28.14 | AlphA_VsT | how can i turn off the ai? |
| 02:28.16 | JademusSreg | They are the least inspired of the selection. |
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| 02:28.30 | JademusSreg | Did you run an AI? |
| 02:28.34 | AlphA_VsT | no |
| 02:28.43 | JademusSreg | Then there's nothing to turn off. |
| 02:28.52 | AlphA_VsT | then why does it unburrow |
| 02:28.57 | AlphA_VsT | why doies it blink |
| 02:28.58 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 02:29.02 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 02:29.07 | AlphA_VsT | why does it do shit when i dont want it to |
| 02:29.27 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 02:29.29 | AlphA_VsT | i tell it to burrow and 1 seconds later it unburrows |
| 02:29.37 | AlphA_VsT | i never fuckign said that |
| 02:29.49 | AlphA_VsT | i removed unburrow and it works fine though gosh |
| 02:30.22 | AlphA_VsT | in player properties its got Ai -default ... |
| 02:30.25 | AlphA_VsT | wtf is |
| 02:30.26 | AlphA_VsT | that |
| 02:30.34 | Bounty | sounds like |
| 02:30.40 | Bounty | the default ai |
| 02:30.41 | Bounty | to me |
| 02:30.48 | AlphA_VsT | how teh fuck do i change that |
| 02:30.55 | AlphA_VsT | i bet that shit is the gay shit |
| 02:30.59 | Bounty | how teh fuck should i know |
| 02:31.01 | Bounty | i bet you're right |
| 02:31.05 | Bounty | data editor right? |
| 02:31.07 | Bounty | therefore |
| 02:31.08 | Bounty | gay |
| 02:31.26 | AlphA_VsT | no referance to it... |
| 02:31.51 | Bounty | ppl wonder why i've only released like one map that was PvE |
| 02:31.53 | Bounty | thats why |
| 02:31.59 | Bounty | to many issues |
| 02:32.02 | Bounty | not even worth it |
| 02:32.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:32.25 | AlphA_VsT | it shouldnt be a problem |
| 02:32.28 | AlphA_VsT | its liek wtf |
| 02:32.31 | Bounty | yeah |
| 02:32.32 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:32.34 | AlphA_VsT | i told you to do this |
| 02:32.36 | Bounty | it SHOULDNT be a problem |
| 02:32.43 | Bounty | kinda how |
| 02:32.43 | AlphA_VsT | not undo it after |
| 02:32.45 | AlphA_VsT | fuck you |
| 02:32.54 | Bounty | there is no option to use the fade in/fade out action for a specific player |
| 02:32.59 | Bounty | like really man? really? |
| 02:33.24 | Bounty | imo |
| 02:33.26 | Bounty | what happend was |
| 02:33.34 | Bounty | they made the editor so in depth |
| 02:33.38 | Bounty | they forgot the common sense things |
| 02:34.10 | AlphA_VsT | lol i found the dumb ass ai |
| 02:34.11 | AlphA_VsT | haha |
| 02:34.21 | AlphA_VsT | i made the ai non stop unburrow and burrow |
| 02:34.23 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 02:34.42 | AlphA_VsT | its like a dance |
| 02:34.43 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 02:35.10 | JademusSreg | What's the size limit on an individual map? 10 MB or so? |
| 02:35.40 | Bounty | 10.5mb |
| 02:35.44 | Bounty | i would know |
| 02:35.48 | Bounty | i've hit it quite alot |
| 02:35.56 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 02:36.09 | AlphA_VsT | make a mod |
| 02:36.11 | AlphA_VsT | duh |
| 02:36.15 | JademusSreg | Ugh. |
| 02:36.17 | Bounty | no |
| 02:36.20 | Bounty | dont do that |
| 02:36.26 | Bounty | its so fucking glitchy |
| 02:36.28 | AlphA_VsT | wow |
| 02:36.34 | AlphA_VsT | i give it soem bs validator |
| 02:36.35 | Bounty | ive cancelled atleast 3-4 projects bc it fucked up |
| 02:36.38 | AlphA_VsT | and hey it works fine |
| 02:36.41 | Bounty | halfway through the map |
| 02:36.44 | Bounty | the mod stopped working |
| 02:36.45 | AlphA_VsT | FUCK YOU GAME |
| 02:36.48 | Bounty | and wouldnt register |
| 02:37.07 | AlphA_VsT | mod are really fucking lame |
| 02:37.11 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 02:37.33 | Bounty | yeah |
| 02:37.37 | Bounty | i thought they were my savior |
| 02:37.38 | Bounty | till i used them |
| 02:37.42 | Bounty | all they do is ruin maps |
| 02:37.50 | Bounty | finish a map |
| 02:37.52 | Bounty | all the sudden |
| 02:37.54 | Bounty | map stops working |
| 02:37.57 | Bounty | so there goes your map |
| 02:38.00 | Bounty | mod* |
| 02:38.23 | Bounty | btw |
| 02:38.24 | Bounty | http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=854 |
| 02:38.31 | Bounty | ^ lol @ all the complaining about Portal 2 already |
| 02:38.57 | Bounty | i knew it wasnt worth no 50 bucks |
| 02:39.21 | AlphA_VsT | whats wrong with it |
| 02:39.25 | Bounty | to short |
| 02:39.28 | Bounty | like the first one |
| 02:39.29 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:39.54 | SentryIII | A lot of people already knew that |
| 02:40.06 | Bounty | how? |
| 02:40.22 | SentryIII | It was expected |
| 02:40.25 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:40.27 | Bounty | no |
| 02:40.32 | Bounty | that doesnt mean people knew it |
| 02:40.34 | JademusSreg | Who gives a shit what people think? |
| 02:40.37 | Bounty | because some people expected it |
| 02:40.40 | Bounty | plus |
| 02:40.43 | Bounty | its a 50 dollar game |
| 02:40.46 | SentryIII | Well, at least I was expecting this to happen |
| 02:40.54 | Bounty | portal 1 came in the orange box |
| 02:41.00 | Bounty | was only like 15-20 bucks |
| 02:41.05 | Bounty | for just portal |
| 02:41.13 | JademusSreg | Anyway, no music. The file size limits are annoying, so it won't be happening. |
| 02:41.24 | AlphA_VsT | i thought it was goign to be a readl game 20 hours ish |
| 02:41.25 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 02:41.36 | Bounty | thats what i thought aswell |
| 02:41.47 | Bounty | epic fail imo |
| 02:41.50 | Bounty | pricing wise |
| 02:41.54 | AlphA_VsT | portal was a side project why it was short |
| 02:41.55 | Bounty | should be 20-30 bucks |
| 02:41.58 | AlphA_VsT | it was an extra |
| 02:42.02 | AlphA_VsT | just just was a hit |
| 02:42.12 | Bounty | well apparently portal 2 is about the same length |
| 02:42.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:43.14 | AlphA_VsT | thats fucking stupid |
| 02:43.21 | Bounty | well |
| 02:43.24 | Bounty | i have no problem with it |
| 02:43.26 | Bounty | its just the price |
| 02:43.29 | AlphA_VsT | i beat portal in like 4 hours |
| 02:43.37 | AlphA_VsT | and i got it free |
| 02:43.43 | Bounty | 50 bucks is way to expensive for what you get lol |
| 02:43.44 | AlphA_VsT | yay free portal on stea, |
| 02:43.46 | AlphA_VsT | steam |
| 02:43.48 | Bounty | kinda shocking from valve |
| 02:43.55 | Bounty | they are the price kings |
| 02:44.00 | AlphA_VsT | thats the pice of the orage box |
| 02:44.03 | Bounty | EVERYTHING MUST GO! |
| 02:44.16 | AlphA_VsT | and that shit had everything |
| 02:45.57 | Bounty | yeah, hope Valve isnt going the path that Blizz is lol |
| 02:46.04 | Bounty | MANAY MANAY MANAY |
| 02:46.47 | Bounty | Half Life 3 will be 60 bucks but it will be released in Episodes every 3 months, each costing $60 |
| 02:47.24 | JademusSreg | Bounty, will you up for testing in a few minutes? |
| 02:47.29 | Bounty | sure |
| 02:47.40 | JademusSreg | Slayer nad Endurance victory types need to be played. |
| 02:47.43 | JademusSreg | *and |
| 02:47.56 | JademusSreg | Though a Nad Endurance victory type isn't out of the question. |
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| 02:59.41 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 02:59.45 | Bounty | i've come to a conclusion |
| 02:59.50 | Bounty | on what im going to do for cover :) |
| 03:00.10 | Bounty | objects you can pick up will be used as cover, AND you can also throw those objects |
| 03:00.29 | Bounty | so say you have a very durable crate you're carrying and i cant seem to hit u |
| 03:00.43 | Bounty | i can pick up an exploding barrel, throw it at you and shoot the barrel :) |
| 03:04.51 | JademusSreg | I'm on. |
| 03:04.57 | JademusSreg | Let's do some testing. |
| 03:06.42 | Bounty | 1 minute |
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| 03:11.17 | AlphA_VsT | yaya |
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| 03:16.28 | Dalemil | hello |
| 03:16.55 | demalii | anyone know about making units have wide turns? like with a hellion? |
| 03:18.58 | AlphA_VsT | turn radius |
| 03:20.16 | demalii | turn radius? |
| 03:20.19 | demalii | where's that |
| 03:20.28 | demalii | you mean turn rate? |
| 03:22.36 | AlphA_VsT | roaches are op in my map haha |
| 03:22.43 | AlphA_VsT | impossible to kill :( |
| 03:22.49 | AlphA_VsT | need lesss life :D |
| 03:30.48 | JademusSreg | Testing Photon Cycles. |
| 03:53.54 | Bounty | busy JademusSreg? |
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| 04:03.14 | Mephs | dat memleak |
| 04:29.18 | Bounty | Anyone get the new Mortal Kombat? |
| 04:30.07 | AlphA_VsT | a new one? |
| 04:30.23 | AlphA_VsT | didnt even know they still made that game |
| 04:31.12 | Mephs | need 2 testers for char select screen tests |
| 04:31.18 | Mephs | join Super Tester Pals chat channel if interested |
| 05:35.35 | AlphA_VsT | sigh |
| 05:35.41 | AlphA_VsT | i almost have this |
| 05:36.44 | demalii | is it possible to make an odin attack while moving? |
| 05:37.05 | demalii | i set the weapon movement to moving but it still only atks when stopped |
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| 05:49.03 | AlphA_VsT | HAHA YES |
| 05:49.10 | AlphA_VsT | SO CLOSE |
| 05:49.15 | AlphA_VsT | to a master creation |
| 05:49.39 | AlphA_VsT | fuck |
| 05:49.44 | AlphA_VsT | BOUNTY!!!!!! |
| 05:50.32 | AlphA_VsT | Bounty, Bounty, Bounty where are you |
| 05:53.36 | AlphA_VsT | fucking answer me GRRR |
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| 05:58.36 | AlphA_VsT | holy fuck i just some how manged to give my self 2 cameras at the same time |
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| 06:01.51 | AlphA_VsT | how the fuck did i do that |
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| 06:06.48 | AlphA_VsT | this map is fucked QQ |
| 06:10.55 | Dekar- | QQ |
| 06:15.54 | AlphA_VsT | i fixed it |
| 06:16.11 | AlphA_VsT | im working on something special |
| 06:16.14 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 06:21.15 | AlphA_VsT | way past my bed time eak |
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| 06:41.43 | Helral|afk | meow |
| 06:43.31 | Dekar- | meow meow |
| 06:50.33 | Deaod | has anyone tested how points get passed around in galaxy? |
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| 06:55.19 | Helral|afk | meoww? |
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| 09:37.20 | *** topic/#sc2mapster is http://sc2mapster.com | sc2mapster bnet2 channel | Screenshot Comics Contest: http://bit.ly/eiIgY7 | Patch 1.3.X Undocumented Changes: http://bit.ly/ejywRQ | We want your broken maps! http://bit.ly/aU9AgC | Join #sc2replayed for SC2Replayed |
| 09:43.34 | blub_ | "purchase user-created maps" |
| 09:43.38 | blub_ | seriously? that's fucked up >.< |
| 09:43.56 | blub_ | all the good stuff would get costly |
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| 09:45.44 | blub_ | "it creates an opportunity for the community to serve itself with content, if the mechanisms are there" |
| 09:45.51 | burne- | yo |
| 09:45.53 | blub_ | there's a publish button in the editor, no? that's the mechanism, the only one we need |
| 09:45.55 | burne- | blub |
| 09:46.00 | burne- | wasd movement ready for testing |
| 09:46.07 | burne- | dunno if its gona lagg |
| 09:46.17 | burne- | probly will even tought its ability/data based |
| 09:46.41 | blub_ | burne-: sure will since there's no prediction for keyboard input |
| 09:46.50 | blub_ | burne-: ability-based... may be a tiny bit better |
| 09:46.51 | blub_ | burne-: but still |
| 09:47.00 | burne- | thats what i tought |
| 09:47.03 | blub_ | burne-: hope you disabled the button noise :P |
| 09:47.11 | blub_ | should I get online? |
| 09:47.11 | burne- | its worht doing it that way if its better |
| 09:47.18 | burne- | i cant upload for somereason |
| 09:47.23 | burne- | once it goes trough then |
| 09:47.31 | blub_ | then let's play portal 2 meanwhile XD |
| 09:47.44 | burne- | actually didnt disable the sound |
| 09:47.52 | burne- | but ill do it later versions |
| 09:49.56 | blub_ | k |
| 09:50.00 | blub_ | otherwise it might get very noisy :) |
| 09:51.50 | Clord | doing space map is technically rather easy XD |
| 09:51.58 | Clord | I might give it try lol |
| 09:52.16 | Clord | those shapes makes good 8 bit ships |
| 09:54.42 | burne- | seriosly |
| 09:54.48 | burne- | whats up with not being able to upload again |
| 09:54.50 | burne- | -_- |
| 09:56.05 | blub_ | is there a way to make directional abilities? |
| 09:56.17 | blub_ | as in, I want the player to chose a point and a direction |
| 09:56.33 | blub_ | if not I'll need 2 points :P |
| 09:59.41 | burne- | aint normal abilities directional? |
| 09:59.53 | burne- | like blink or something like that |
| 09:59.54 | blub_ | point+direction |
| 10:00.07 | blub_ | no blink only has a target point |
| 10:00.10 | blub_ | I need target point + direction |
| 10:00.13 | blub_ | or 2 target points |
| 10:00.38 | burne- | what you wana do with it |
| 10:00.58 | blub_ | I'll show you when it works :P |
| 10:01.01 | blub_ | need to test first ^^ |
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| 10:02.46 | madsquare | good morning |
| 10:03.21 | madsquare | i need some help on player properties and game variants |
| 10:03.58 | madsquare | basically, i modified a few of blizzards ladder maps - they are still melee maps |
| 10:04.21 | madsquare | changed nothing about their triggers or anything. so one could think it works as it should |
| 10:05.16 | madsquare | the problem is: there are only as many slots for spectators as there are players defined in the properties menu |
| 10:05.53 | madsquare | i.e. have 4 player in the properties window set to 'controller - open' -> 4 slots total for players and spectators |
| 10:06.42 | madsquare | its supposed to use all aviable slots for that |
| 10:06.58 | madsquare | does anyone know something about this? |
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| 10:10.01 | nodgene | is there an aircraft movement blocker? |
| 10:12.39 | Mephs | pathing: no-fly zone |
| 10:13.09 | burne- | WOW |
| 10:13.10 | burne- | blub_ |
| 10:13.10 | burne- | we could use more testers tough |
| 10:13.12 | burne- | ulplkoaded |
| 10:13.17 | burne- | BLUB |
| 10:13.17 | burne- | to check if it laggs extra much with more players |
| 10:13.18 | burne- | TEST |
| 10:14.33 | nodgene | thanks mephs |
| 10:15.32 | nodgene | mephs, this isn't a doodad? |
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| 10:16.06 | madsquare | would you be so kind to help test some things on eu? You would need to idle in a lobby for a while. would be greatly appreciated |
| 10:16.33 | blub_ | burne-: sry |
| 10:16.39 | blub_ | burne-: still need me? |
| 10:16.47 | burne- | come |
| 10:16.48 | burne- | bnet |
| 10:16.59 | burne- | anyone other on EU who could help testing? |
| 10:17.01 | burne- | could use more people |
| 10:17.53 | nodgene | sorry burne, bit busy |
| 10:19.08 | Clord | I got crazy map idea but I have no spare slots in europe XD |
| 10:20.36 | nodgene | in europe? you have more than one region account? |
| 10:21.14 | Clord | they should make slot limit to disappear or make it way higher.... as there is not much point to have it.... unless it is somehow related to scanning maps in bnet.... not to make it so slow |
| 10:21.33 | Clord | yeah I have EU and US copy on same account |
| 10:22.11 | nodgene | I see |
| 10:23.33 | Clord | I'm kinda on break from mapping again |
| 10:23.39 | Clord | when you have popular map long time |
| 10:23.42 | Clord | you tend to burn out XD |
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| 10:33.00 | Clord | gotta add more CO Powers later for TCG map.... one of ideas is nice sabotage power against enemy structures...... it blows them up XD |
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| 10:39.00 | XenoX101 | hai gaiz |
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| 10:39.30 | Mexa | mornin' |
| 10:41.32 | Clord | ^^ |
| 10:41.44 | Clord | you may say morning |
| 10:41.47 | Clord | lol |
| 10:41.55 | Clord | I'm the self proclaimed king here |
| 10:43.11 | Helral|Work | meows from the top of the "proclaimed king"'s Throne |
| 10:43.31 | XenoX101 | ;p; |
| 10:43.34 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 10:43.37 | XenoX101 | lol* |
| 10:43.49 | XenoX101 | have we got any modellers in sc2mapster yet except for skizot? |
| 10:44.12 | XenoX101 | I'm feeling SC2 assets are a little inadequate |
| 10:44.17 | Skizot | nope |
| 10:44.21 | Skizot | i run the market |
| 10:44.22 | XenoX101 | :( |
| 10:44.23 | Helral|Work | go learn to model yourself then ;p |
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| 10:44.30 | XenoX101 | modelling is a bitch though |
| 10:44.31 | Skizot | i can also animate AND particle now. |
| 10:44.31 | XenoX101 | + animating |
| 10:44.32 | XenoX101 | ugh |
| 10:44.44 | XenoX101 | I want to make like 5 races for my map |
| 10:44.57 | XenoX101 | none of them protoss zerg terran |
| 10:45.02 | burne- | blub_ wana do another quick test? |
| 10:45.18 | burne- | Its really hard to say if this is good, it feels right whe ni test |
| 10:45.23 | burne- | but in bnet its a bit different |
| 10:46.13 | blub_ | sure is |
| 10:46.23 | blub_ | ping time :D |
| 10:46.33 | Clord | it seems in warcraft III.. animators was rare back then |
| 10:46.37 | burne- | IF |
| 10:46.40 | burne- | i can upload |
| 10:46.45 | burne- | again it refuses to work |
| 10:47.01 | Clord | it was very rare to have model with non blizzard animations |
| 10:47.02 | Clord | XD |
| 10:47.39 | burne- | seems like I cant -_- |
| 10:51.30 | Dekar- | Skizot can you create stuff with light yet? |
| 10:51.51 | Dekar- | models :p |
| 10:52.08 | Dekar- | omni lights |
| 10:52.19 | Dekar- | flashlights |
| 10:52.35 | Clord | no major company etc has yet made RTS with actual rocks, papers and scissors.. would make some awesome animations nowadays technology |
| 10:52.43 | Clord | scissors cutting papers to half etc |
| 10:52.51 | Clord | paers covering and consuming rocks XD |
| 10:53.07 | Clord | rocks smashing itself agains scissors |
| 10:53.12 | Clord | against... |
| 10:54.03 | Helral|Work | rocks smashing to smitherenes on eachother ;p |
| 10:54.15 | Clord | XD |
| 10:54.18 | Clord | yeah |
| 10:55.00 | Clord | scissors could have something like floating swordfight or whatever |
| 10:55.14 | Dekar- | i would include the imbalanced well, spock and a crocodile |
| 10:55.24 | Clord | oh and |
| 10:55.30 | Clord | there should be fourth type |
| 10:55.33 | Helral|Work | papers doing an origami peace result ;p |
| 10:55.34 | Clord | rare unit |
| 10:55.36 | Clord | called shotgun |
| 10:55.41 | Clord | something like relic XD |
| 10:55.51 | Clord | shotgun would smash all other types effectively |
| 10:55.56 | Clord | and there would be only one to capture :) |
| 10:58.16 | Clord | I have still that.. singleplayer map unfinished |
| 10:58.18 | Clord | but playable |
| 10:58.27 | Clord | it is about growing up zerglings |
| 10:58.51 | Clord | and then sending them to practice fights and fights with prizes |
| 10:58.56 | Clord | they gain one experience per hit |
| 10:59.31 | Clord | each zergling has unique stat numbers |
| 10:59.45 | Clord | so it is almost imposible to find two zerglings with same stats and there can be huge cap |
| 11:00.27 | Clord | when AI and player gathers enough minerals.. they can evolve their zerg units to other types.. aka zergling -> hydralisk |
| 11:01.02 | Clord | it is not bad if your zergling dies in 1v1 practice fight |
| 11:01.05 | Clord | it is resurrected for free |
| 11:02.35 | Clord | there has been some planning problems in that map |
| 11:02.51 | Clord | when I do match types with big rewards where loser loses his zerg unit |
| 11:02.59 | Clord | when player begins to dominate all other AI sides |
| 11:03.12 | Clord | what is stopping the player from easy spam victory |
| 11:03.27 | blub_ | burne-: I have something you COULD try using ^^ |
| 11:04.05 | blub_ | burne-: actually, in your case, it's not that good since it only works per-field |
| 11:04.18 | blub_ | burne-: a trace function to trace into a direction until it hits something :P |
| 11:04.20 | burne- | -_- |
| 11:04.26 | Clord | burne... are you trying to do map where delay is nuisance? |
| 11:04.27 | Clord | XD |
| 11:04.43 | blub_ | burne-: done using a binary search algorithm, so it's fast enough to not break triggers ^^ |
| 11:05.09 | blub_ | theoretically it should work for any length the game comes up with xD |
| 11:05.25 | burne- | I actually got and idea how to stop units from getting out of bounds |
| 11:05.42 | blub_ | although |
| 11:05.45 | blub_ | maybe you could use it |
| 11:05.47 | burne- | wana hear it? |
| 11:06.09 | burne- | no? :( |
| 11:06.11 | blub_ | k |
| 11:06.17 | burne- | fucking cant upload again btw |
| 11:06.23 | burne- | so anoying |
| 11:06.32 | burne- | just calculate distance between boundry units |
| 11:06.37 | burne- | if its close, stop the car |
| 11:06.42 | burne- | if far then just brake |
| 11:07.04 | burne- | something like that |
| 11:07.13 | burne- | probly need to move it away if it goes too close |
| 11:07.27 | burne- | the problem might be that it might look a bit weird |
| 11:07.30 | burne- | but should do the job |
| 11:08.00 | blub_ | welll |
| 11:08.11 | blub_ | and when you're stopped |
| 11:08.14 | blub_ | how to keep going? |
| 11:08.32 | blub_ | btw. my trace function may really work for you, your usecase even is perfectly fine, performance wise |
| 11:08.45 | burne- | as said before, I guess it needs to be like you cannot move that way/its moves you away from the boundry |
| 11:09.36 | burne- | :E |
| 11:09.37 | burne- | not totally sure |
| 11:09.38 | blub_ | burne-: let me show you something |
| 11:09.38 | burne- | so I can stop it from moving that way |
| 11:09.42 | burne- | I think I should be able to detect when the unit is facing boundry unit and when not |
| 11:10.24 | blub_ | can I query you, burne- ? |
| 11:10.45 | burne- | what does that even mean |
| 11:11.00 | Helral|Work | private message in IRC ;p |
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| 11:11.10 | blub_ | gotta go for lunch first |
| 11:11.12 | burne- | 'why couldnt you? |
| 11:11.12 | blub_ | burne-: I'll show you later |
| 11:11.23 | Kueken | xD |
| 11:11.25 | blub_ | because it's rude to start without asking first :P and on some channels it's forbidden :P |
| 11:11.40 | burne- | i dont think its rude |
| 11:11.55 | Kueken | banks cannot be preloaded using galaxy script and you cannot use loops to preload them for all players... |
| 11:12.00 | Kueken | retarded bullshit |
| 11:12.24 | Clord | blub_.... what society is like that? |
| 11:12.25 | Helral|Work | Kueken: ??? what you mean cannot be preloaded using galaxy script? |
| 11:12.42 | Kueken | there is a function called BankPreload |
| 11:12.50 | Kueken | but it only exists in Gui |
| 11:13.00 | Kueken | in galaxy it gives you a syntax error |
| 11:13.02 | Clord | bankpreload.. have not found real use for it |
| 11:13.14 | Clord | and all of my maps almost use banks |
| 11:13.15 | Clord | XD |
| 11:13.21 | Kueken | and you cannot use variables in the function, or it will not work |
| 11:13.29 | Mexa | do they work in multiplayer? |
| 11:13.34 | Clord | yeah :) |
| 11:13.39 | Kueken | bank preload enables loading banks after map initialization |
| 11:13.50 | Helral|Work | Kueken: no it doesn't |
| 11:13.54 | Helral|Work | Kueken: Literal values must be used for the bank name and player (no variables or expressions). The specified bank data will be synchronized for all players when the game first loads. |
| 11:13.59 | Mexa | The point with preloading banks is to ensure that lag is not happening ingame while playing |
| 11:14.03 | Helral|Work | Kueken: hint text of that function. |
| 11:14.05 | Mexa | like every other preloading thing |
| 11:14.28 | Helral|Work | roflol |
| 11:14.33 | Helral|Work | misread your text |
| 11:14.36 | Helral|Work | nevermind me ;p |
| 11:14.49 | Clord | have not noticed bank loading wihtout preloading cause lag/freeze spikes |
| 11:14.53 | Clord | XD |
| 11:14.56 | Kueken | if you dont preload banks |
| 11:14.57 | Mexa | they can |
| 11:15.07 | Kueken | you cannot load them at any other point than map init |
| 11:15.08 | Helral|Work | read "bank preload enables preloading ...." instead of "... enables loading ..." |
| 11:15.24 | Mexa | Just like the case that there comes lag spikes when unit dies or uses abilities unless you don't preload them |
| 11:15.25 | Kueken | which is not a big deal I guess |
| 11:15.39 | Clord | also I kinda understood from preload description that it preloads single bank for all players |
| 11:15.41 | Clord | so no thanks |
| 11:15.42 | Clord | XD |
| 11:16.12 | Mexa | it doesnt |
| 11:16.15 | Kueken | as soon as you load data from banks to variables its synchronized to other players anyway |
| 11:16.16 | Helral|Work | Clord: it preloads and synch's a single bank of a single player for all players. |
| 11:16.51 | Clord | so it is just confusing description? |
| 11:16.54 | Helral|Work | so basicly allows access to that value by all local triggering stuff as to reduce the lagspike. |
| 11:16.55 | Clord | XD |
| 11:17.28 | Kueken | if you don't preload banks, you need to load them at map init |
| 11:17.40 | Kueken | so the lag isue is kind of irrelevant |
| 11:17.52 | Kueken | because loading does the same thing |
| 11:18.09 | Mexa | what happends if you load a bank before map init then? |
| 11:18.17 | Mexa | not talking about preload |
| 11:18.30 | Kueken | before? |
| 11:18.36 | Helral|Work | at script init ;p |
| 11:18.36 | Mexa | Before |
| 11:18.43 | Mexa | ^ |
| 11:18.58 | Kueken | well, script int or map init shouldn't matter |
| 11:19.03 | Kueken | in case of banks |
| 11:19.09 | Mexa | Better not |
| 11:19.14 | Helral|Work | so basicly bank gv_mybank = loadbank(....) |
| 11:19.15 | Kueken | :) |
| 11:19.18 | Mexa | I know that some natives does not work on script init see. |
| 11:19.24 | Kueken | ye |
| 11:19.37 | Kueken | especially the stuff reacting to lobby |
| 11:19.42 | Helral|Work | all UI-dependent triggers won't work at script init. |
| 11:19.47 | Clord | I found nice solution for mysterious achievements gets deleted bug because of bank saves when you win or lose match |
| 11:19.55 | Clord | I only save them when they get them |
| 11:19.55 | Mexa | playergroups either |
| 11:19.56 | Clord | voila |
| 11:19.57 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:20.40 | Clord | that way if bank file somehow goes crazy.. achievements not get again to false state |
| 11:20.50 | Mexa | Anyone got BankExists to work yet? |
| 11:21.06 | Mexa | It always returns false for me |
| 11:21.08 | Clord | there is elegant solution to achieve same thing |
| 11:21.18 | Clord | see if section exist in bank |
| 11:21.24 | Clord | it basically does pretty much save result |
| 11:21.26 | Mexa | I know |
| 11:21.30 | Mexa | But still |
| 11:21.31 | Mexa | lol |
| 11:22.05 | Clord | I found section exist thing very handy in THE Card Game... was able to detect if player has chosed powers manually yet |
| 11:22.22 | Clord | otherwise it gives just default power config |
| 11:22.33 | Clord | intended for first timers |
| 11:22.51 | burne- | MEXA;, HERLAL; BLUB |
| 11:22.55 | burne- | i need help testing again |
| 11:23.05 | Mexa | I was justing loggin in, but not for that :v |
| 11:23.07 | Helral|Work | hmmmm bit dark an img... the UI I'm working on for myself: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13276752/UI_in_development.png |
| 11:23.20 | burne- | Just a quick test pls, but I guess multiple people would be better |
| 11:23.30 | Clord | was you EU or US? |
| 11:23.30 | Kueken | just tested BankExists, works just fine |
| 11:23.31 | Mexa | I was going to check the status of photon cycles, and then get on my way afk |
| 11:23.33 | burne- | EU |
| 11:23.37 | Clord | hmmm |
| 11:23.39 | Clord | sounds facinating |
| 11:23.42 | burne- | looking nice herlal |
| 11:23.42 | Clord | what map is that? |
| 11:23.45 | burne- | driving |
| 11:23.49 | Clord | ooh |
| 11:23.52 | Clord | I want to test it :) |
| 11:23.57 | burne- | k come then |
| 11:24.01 | burne- | on sc2mapster channel |
| 11:24.01 | Mexa | Kueken, BankExists("mapnamewhatever") ? |
| 11:24.05 | burne- | 3 people should be enough |
| 11:24.10 | Helral|Work | was it the one in which I crashed? |
| 11:24.11 | Kueken | "banknamewhatever" |
| 11:24.15 | Kueken | not map name |
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| 11:24.23 | Mexa | yesyes |
| 11:24.33 | Mexa | typo |
| 11:24.36 | Kueken | worked fine, returned true |
| 11:24.41 | Kueken | then I deleted bank |
| 11:24.44 | Kueken | returned false |
| 11:25.04 | burne- | pfff |
| 11:25.04 | demalii | what else can i check to make an odin attack while moving? I've set the weapons movement to moving, and unchecked the fire only at target and fire when attacking |
| 11:25.07 | burne- | cant get more testers? |
| 11:25.09 | burne- | mehg |
| 11:25.12 | burne- | herlal |
| 11:25.13 | Clord | moment |
| 11:25.14 | burne- | work |
| 11:25.14 | burne- | ? |
| 11:25.15 | Clord | relocalizing |
| 11:25.15 | burne- | :( |
| 11:25.23 | burne- | blub_ there? |
| 11:25.25 | Dekar- | demalii wepaon arc |
| 11:25.36 | Dekar- | to 360 |
| 11:25.37 | Dekar- | or |
| 11:25.39 | Dekar- | well |
| 11:25.43 | burne- | dekar |
| 11:25.44 | burne- | you too |
| 11:25.45 | Dekar- | then it can shoot in all directions |
| 11:25.46 | burne- | help pls |
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| 11:25.51 | Dekar- | with what? |
| 11:25.54 | Dekar- | map testing |
| 11:25.55 | Dekar- | oh well |
| 11:25.55 | burne- | i need to test wasd with multiple people |
| 11:25.57 | burne- | on my driving game |
| 11:26.06 | burne- | wana come? |
| 11:26.06 | Dekar- | ok |
| 11:26.08 | Dekar- | yes |
| 11:26.13 | Mexa | fine |
| 11:26.17 | Mexa | I am coming then |
| 11:26.21 | Mexa | Quickly |
| 11:26.22 | Mexa | ._ |
| 11:26.26 | blub_ | back |
| 11:26.27 | blub_ | burne-: =) |
| 11:26.38 | blub_ | 13:12 < Clord> blub_.... what society is like that? |
| 11:26.38 | burne- | you wana come too |
| 11:26.46 | burne- | finally got uploaded |
| 11:26.47 | blub_ | iirc some of the #c++ channels on some networks :P |
| 11:26.47 | burne- | ? |
| 11:27.03 | burne- | well we go without you then |
| 11:27.04 | blub_ | coming |
| 11:27.30 | Helral|Work | burne-: yup work |
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| 11:28.58 | blub_ | gah |
| 11:29.01 | blub_ | what is this |
| 11:29.18 | blub_ | all the servers I got shell accounts on are either down or "being moved" or in some "technical trouble" |
| 11:31.53 | Helral|Work | what did you do to them? ;p |
| 11:33.28 | blub_ | nothin it's in their topics / rule-links |
| 11:33.43 | burne- | I guess the wasd still aint perfect |
| 11:33.49 | burne- | but it was a bit better imo |
| 11:34.11 | blub_ | sc2 is not made for this |
| 11:34.17 | blub_ | it will never be perfect |
| 11:34.27 | burne- | I really wonder the delay between command card and triggers wasd delay |
| 11:34.42 | burne- | I think trigger wasd would certainly lagg too much |
| 11:34.47 | burne- | so I tried using command card |
| 11:35.02 | blub_ | I'd guess both works the same |
| 11:35.02 | Clord | that was awesome |
| 11:35.11 | blub_ | I assume that the only thing sc2 predicts is the sound of the command-card buttons |
| 11:35.13 | Helral|Work | did you crash yet? |
| 11:35.14 | blub_ | so... |
| 11:35.21 | blub_ | keyboard triggers may work just as well |
| 11:35.22 | Clord | have cliche rocket booster and oh yeah :) |
| 11:35.31 | blub_ | but you have to set them up dynamically after allowing the players to configure the controls :P |
| 11:35.33 | Clord | oh and minelayer function =) |
| 11:35.34 | blub_ | but you cna dd that later |
| 11:35.50 | Helral|Work | Clord: mine-shitting ability? |
| 11:36.10 | Clord | yeah like in death rally etc games |
| 11:36.15 | Mexa | It destroys me that you have time working on your racing map when I don't have time working on mine :/ |
| 11:36.19 | Clord | it just for few seconds would lay mines from back |
| 11:36.19 | Helral|Work | carmageddon ;) |
| 11:36.38 | Clord | oh and it could be something else than always exploding car |
| 11:36.41 | Clord | like health bars |
| 11:36.44 | Helral|Work | drops a bouncing ball which explodes when in contact with another car ;p |
| 11:36.53 | Clord | it would be either.. car gets stunned.. slowing it down |
| 11:36.58 | Clord | and giving bad controls for moment |
| 11:37.03 | Clord | or if healt bar is gone |
| 11:37.06 | Clord | it would destroy car |
| 11:37.09 | burne- | Clord i already have many things planned, but still gotta work with the basic systems |
| 11:37.14 | burne- | like fix the out of bounds |
| 11:37.15 | Mexa | Skizot, would you be able to make resources for other things than sc2? |
| 11:37.19 | blub_ | homing missiles ftw |
| 11:37.20 | burne- | and improve wasd if possible |
| 11:37.40 | Helral|Work | Clord: paddo debuff. left and right get swapped ;p |
| 11:37.40 | blub_ | I can fix your out of bounds problem :P |
| 11:37.58 | burne- | later I also was thinking of making something you could custom build your car |
| 11:37.59 | Clord | shouldn't pathing painter in editor to help to remove ability to go out of track bounds? XD |
| 11:38.08 | burne- | like improve steering, wheels, booster or that kind of stuff |
| 11:38.26 | burne- | oh? is there such a thing :D |
| 11:38.28 | blub_ | Clord: no because he uses move-unit-instantly |
| 11:38.37 | blub_ | wait what? |
| 11:38.43 | Clord | but yeah.. you probably want to scrap wasd control scheme and just let people point their mouse where they want to turn |
| 11:38.44 | blub_ | you said you already tried it |
| 11:38.53 | blub_ | Clord: you can already do that |
| 11:38.56 | burne- | I said i used pathing blockers |
| 11:39.02 | burne- | it aint the same as painter? |
| 11:39.10 | blub_ | because I told you to AFTER you told me path-painting didn't work |
| 11:39.12 | Helral|Work | burne-: same effect ;p |
| 11:39.20 | blub_ | Helral|Work: no |
| 11:39.24 | Clord | yeah but wasd car should be unlockalbe or something so first time player not get frustated and blame the map from control scheme |
| 11:39.27 | burne- | no i said pathing blockers :( |
| 11:39.33 | burne- | i never heard of such a painter |
| 11:39.38 | burne- | maybe i misread |
| 11:39.41 | blub_ | burne-: you mean path-blocking units with a path-blocking footprint? |
| 11:39.48 | burne- | yea |
| 11:39.51 | blub_ | or just random units where you use the trigger |
| 11:39.59 | blub_ | if they have a pathblocking footprint |
| 11:40.00 | Helral|Work | prolly the 1x1 pathing blocker units ;p |
| 11:40.02 | blub_ | then that's sufficient I guess |
| 11:40.09 | blub_ | Helral|Work: that would be insane |
| 11:40.17 | blub_ | burne-: in the terrain editor |
| 11:40.27 | burne- | I think it might work |
| 11:40.31 | blub_ | burne-: click the button with the arrow :P |
| 11:40.33 | burne- | since you should be able to draw larger areas |
| 11:40.40 | blub_ | or press H |
| 11:40.43 | blub_ | but |
| 11:40.47 | blub_ | I don't thin kit will work |
| 11:40.52 | blub_ | because you use move unit instantly :P |
| 11:41.08 | blub_ | as in, UnitSetPosition |
| 11:41.19 | burne- | lots of new stuff to me :D, yesterday i didnt know the text editor |
| 11:41.22 | burne- | now the pathing editor |
| 11:41.23 | burne- | :D |
| 11:41.28 | Helral|Work | ^^ |
| 11:41.33 | Helral|Work | you learn something everyday |
| 11:41.54 | Helral|Work | I learned today that it is possible for me to forget my glasses ;p |
| 11:42.46 | Clord | burne.. you didn't know about pathing editor? XD |
| 11:42.49 | Clord | it is god sent :) |
| 11:43.03 | Clord | you can block areas precisely you need them to be blocked |
| 11:43.03 | burne- | yea, I never needed stuff like that :/ |
| 11:43.11 | burne- | yea sounds useful |
| 11:43.43 | Clord | useful for example card maps too.. if want that units not wander to certain areas where enemy's spawned units can't notice them |
| 11:43.51 | Clord | reminds me.. I have still not done that for my map |
| 11:43.52 | Clord | lol |
| 11:44.02 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 11:44.50 | Clord | but yeah.. that tool allows to make actual heightened cliffs what can't be reached.... instead SCII dull cliffs |
| 11:44.54 | Clord | what are just like walls |
| 11:44.56 | burne- | btw |
| 11:45.15 | burne- | you didnt asnwer about the wasd. Is the delay for turning too long or does it turn too slowly |
| 11:45.37 | Clord | I was not able to get true feel of it |
| 11:45.43 | Clord | I made accidental 180 turns |
| 11:45.44 | Clord | XD |
| 11:46.34 | burne- | yea it seems the pathing painting doesnt totally block it eaither |
| 11:46.39 | burne- | but maybe a bit |
| 11:46.47 | burne- | so you wont go out if you dont force it |
| 11:52.51 | burne- | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/20874-mafia-now-with-controversy/#p13 |
| 11:52.52 | burne- | rofl |
| 11:52.57 | burne- | blizzard is a joke |
| 11:53.36 | burne- | my GTS map would probly get banned too if I had made it (might make it someday) |
| 11:53.37 | blub_ | perfect, my trace function works fine |
| 11:53.52 | blub_ | burne-: if you want, my trace function might help you |
| 11:54.02 | burne- | k explain |
| 11:54.11 | blub_ | okay, so now, at some point, you do this: |
| 11:54.17 | blub_ | UnitSetPosition(player, new position); |
| 11:54.18 | blub_ | right? |
| 11:54.22 | blub_ | with blending=true |
| 11:54.40 | blub_ | (that's move-unit-instantly) |
| 11:54.51 | blub_ | Move Unit Instantly(player, new position, blend) |
| 11:55.22 | burne- | yes |
| 11:55.26 | blub_ | and before that you somehow set "new position" to playerposition + some directoin * speed |
| 11:55.39 | burne- | yes |
| 11:55.45 | blub_ | okay, basically, I give you my trace function, and then you do this: |
| 11:55.56 | blub_ | new position = Trace(player position, new position) |
| 11:56.11 | burne- | cant you just explain what it does |
| 11:56.22 | blub_ | it traces from the playerposition, to the new position |
| 11:56.30 | blub_ | until it hits a path blocker |
| 11:56.32 | burne- | adn then? |
| 11:56.49 | blub_ | and returns the poitn furthest away that can directly be reached without hitting the path blocker |
| 11:56.55 | burne- | mm yea, I guess I could use that. You know there is action for this? |
| 11:57.02 | blub_ | there is not :P |
| 11:57.12 | burne- | there is action to see pathing bettween 2 points |
| 11:57.17 | blub_ | nope |
| 11:57.20 | Clord | btw it is rather easy and fast to do AI for racing map probably... hint hint ;) |
| 11:57.20 | blub_ | that only gives you the pathing cost |
| 11:57.21 | burne- | yes there is |
| 11:57.30 | blub_ | look |
| 11:57.34 | blub_ | you don't want th epathing cost |
| 11:57.40 | blub_ | you want the actual point, how far you can move |
| 11:57.41 | Clord | then have them do mysterious cheating with their car speeds like most racing games XD |
| 11:57.58 | blub_ | but it's not that simple, because it works only at field-precision, so basically what you awnt to do is this: |
| 11:58.08 | burne- | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.15 | burne- | that kind of condition |
| 11:58.16 | burne- | i mean |
| 11:58.20 | burne- | not action |
| 11:58.33 | blub_ | TracePos = Position With Polar Offset (from player, distance 10, Facing of Unit(player)) |
| 11:58.41 | blub_ | TracePos = Trace (Plyer Position, TacePos); |
| 11:58.52 | blub_ | max_distance = Distance Between (PlayerPosition, TracePos) |
| 11:59.07 | blub_ | then you know the max distance you can move forward before hitting the pathblocker |
| 11:59.12 | burne- | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:59.15 | burne- | and that too |
| 11:59.26 | blub_ | that still won't help you |
| 11:59.38 | blub_ | because |
| 11:59.42 | blub_ | let me show you |
| 12:01.27 | burne- | btw |
| 12:01.43 | burne- | I was also wondering what it should do when it hits pahthing |
| 12:01.46 | burne- | just stop until you change direction? |
| 12:02.24 | blub_ | burne-: http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot-20.png |
| 12:02.41 | blub_ | that's the porblem of "are connected by pathing" |
| 12:04.06 | Mexa|Afk | burne-, regarding Mafia, Blizzard do what they need to do |
| 12:04.18 | burne- | I still think its bullshit |
| 12:04.18 | Mexa|Afk | Though, lol |
| 12:04.26 | Mexa|Afk | It's in their ToA |
| 12:04.28 | burne- | since they arent that offensive |
| 12:04.30 | Mexa|Afk | Learn to accept it |
| 12:04.39 | Mexa|Afk | Despite how bs it is |
| 12:06.13 | burne- | blub_ i dont quite get that picture again |
| 12:06.14 | burne- | -_- |
| 12:06.38 | blub_ | burne-: just saying |
| 12:06.49 | blub_ | burne-: that, "A and B are connected by path" works if there is *ANY* path |
| 12:06.52 | blub_ | burne-: not if there's a direct path |
| 12:07.28 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot-21.png |
| 12:07.43 | blub_ | and "is passable" gives you this |
| 12:07.48 | blub_ | both points are passable |
| 12:07.52 | blub_ | but there's still a wall in between |
| 12:08.31 | burne- | but if pathing bloker is wider enough it doesnt matter? |
| 12:09.58 | blub_ | burne-: no, it always matters |
| 12:10.24 | burne- | I still fail to see your point :( |
| 12:11.10 | burne- | I think it should work with the condition pathing between two points |
| 12:11.13 | burne- | if umm |
| 12:11.29 | burne- | you paint it large enough so next move point is always in path blocked area |
| 12:11.42 | blub_ | burne-: pathing between to points |
| 12:11.45 | blub_ | gives you a PATHING cost |
| 12:11.50 | blub_ | so if you can go 3 fields forward |
| 12:11.51 | blub_ | it's 3 |
| 12:11.54 | blub_ | if you have to go around a wall |
| 12:11.55 | blub_ | it can be 20 |
| 12:11.58 | blub_ | but it will still be "true" |
| 12:12.01 | burne- | but its condition |
| 12:12.06 | burne- | how cant it give you a number |
| 12:12.07 | burne- | :E |
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| 12:12.10 | blub_ | which function exactly? |
| 12:12.15 | A1win | it's a function that returns an integer |
| 12:12.17 | burne- | ((Position of (Triggering unit)) and (Position of (Triggering unit)) are connected by pathing) == true |
| 12:12.23 | burne- | Its condition |
| 12:12.25 | A1win | oh, that |
| 12:12.32 | Dogmai | Helral|Work: you there bb |
| 12:12.39 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot-20.png |
| 12:12.39 | A1win | that also is true if there is any pathing route between the points |
| 12:12.40 | blub_ | burne-: there |
| 12:12.42 | Helral|Work | meow? |
| 12:12.43 | blub_ | burne-: the red path |
| 12:12.46 | blub_ | burne-: connects the 2 points |
| 12:12.59 | blub_ | burne-: sure, if your move makes you move *into* the no-pathing-area, then it works |
| 12:13.02 | blub_ | burne-: but if you're too fast |
| 12:13.08 | blub_ | burne-: like when you are pushed at a collision |
| 12:13.10 | A1win | what are you trying to do? |
| 12:13.15 | blub_ | burne-: then the new point may be BEHIND the pathing area |
| 12:13.22 | blub_ | burne-: the lower grey point |
| 12:13.27 | blub_ | burne-: and then the pathing condition is true again |
| 12:13.34 | blub_ | burne-: even tho the path isn't direct, but goes around the corner |
| 12:13.40 | burne- | but if i make sure it isnt |
| 12:13.40 | Dogmai | If I wanted to remove the image and hover image of the menu button, how would I go about setting it to blank.dds |
| 12:13.41 | burne- | :) |
| 12:13.51 | blub_ | here's what my trace function does: |
| 12:13.53 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/Screenshot-22.png |
| 12:14.11 | Skizot | Mexa|Afk i can, why? |
| 12:14.15 | A1win | if you're trying to check if there is a wall between points, you should do an iterative check on a line between those points: is line at 0.5 pathable? is line at 1.0 pathable? is line at 1.5 pathable? ... until you reach the destination |
| 12:14.26 | burne- | wasd movement v2.0 is ready |
| 12:14.29 | A1win | *passable |
| 12:14.30 | burne- | but cant publish again |
| 12:14.31 | burne- | :( |
| 12:14.47 | blub_ | A1win: that's the linear way |
| 12:14.49 | burne- | It sux that I have to test it with someone everytime, since I always get used to the system too fast |
| 12:14.51 | burne- | when testing |
| 12:14.52 | Mexa|Afk | Skizot, I might just need your help with something else than sc2 models in the future |
| 12:14.52 | blub_ | A1win: I use a binary search |
| 12:14.56 | blub_ | A1win: which usually ends after 4 steps |
| 12:15.01 | Mexa|Afk | If that's fine? |
| 12:15.07 | A1win | or that ;p |
| 12:15.12 | blub_ | well 5 steps |
| 12:15.15 | blub_ | for a distance of 50 |
| 12:15.22 | Mexa|Afk | Not sure what it is now. But it was a question so that I know. |
| 12:15.23 | A1win | yea I know what you mean, didn't think that far |
| 12:15.49 | blub_ | A1win: point is, if you do it linear, then the trigger can easily be interrupted because it takes too long |
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| 12:15.58 | blub_ | A1win: and I need in my map something that can easily trace 100 units ahead :P |
| 12:16.06 | Helral|Work | Dogmai: set the values of UI/MenuBarButtonHover and UI/MenuBarButtonNormal to be a transparent dds, using the Assets.txt file |
| 12:16.09 | Skizot | sure :) |
| 12:16.13 | burne- | in your gem td? |
| 12:16.16 | blub_ | nope |
| 12:16.21 | blub_ | not that one :P |
| 12:16.26 | A1win | actually... how do you do it with binary search? you still need to check the whole path if there is no unpassable stuff |
| 12:16.30 | Dogmai | Helral|Work: Can't I do it through the Sc2Layout file? |
| 12:16.31 | A1win | what's the difference :P |
| 12:16.34 | blub_ | I just tested it - successfully |
| 12:16.48 | blub_ | by making a phoenix graviton beam be exactly so long that it reaches the next wall ^^^ |
| 12:16.51 | blub_ | and it worked |
| 12:16.53 | Helral|Work | Dogmai: you want to adjust it for all the menubuttons, right? |
| 12:17.02 | blub_ | A1win: My algorithm is as follows: |
| 12:17.14 | Dogmai | Helral|Work: No, just the Menu [F10] button |
| 12:17.23 | blub_ | A1win: if (distance between(a, b) == AIPathingCostMap(a, b)) there's a direct path |
| 12:17.32 | Dogmai | The one at the top left of the UI in game |
| 12:17.38 | blub_ | if not, put B to (A+B)/2 |
| 12:17.44 | blub_ | etc. |
| 12:17.45 | burne- | blub wana test now? even tough i failed you last time |
| 12:17.46 | blub_ | well |
| 12:17.46 | burne- | :( |
| 12:17.56 | blub_ | I just use AIPathingCostMap because it ignores any units in the way |
| 12:18.02 | blub_ | and with that the binary search is easy =) |
| 12:18.08 | A1win | pathing cost is an integer though so it isn't as accurate as distance between points? |
| 12:18.22 | Helral|Work | Dogmai: Then lookup the Frame info for that button and use <Texture val="LocationOfTransparent.dds" layer="0" /> inside it. |
| 12:18.22 | blub_ | A1win: correct, but I don't need it sub-field accurately :) |
| 12:18.42 | Dogmai | Helral|Work: Texture, thanks mate |
| 12:18.43 | blub_ | neither would burne- when he uses it as a maximum distance cap |
| 12:18.47 | blub_ | burne-: coming |
| 12:18.50 | A1win | but err |
| 12:19.00 | A1win | how's that faster than just checking the whole thing? |
| 12:19.01 | Helral|Work | Dogmai: you can use this to find the correct frame setups: http://109.71.49.81/SC2LayoutFrames.html |
| 12:19.11 | blub_ | A1win: well |
| 12:19.16 | blub_ | A1win: assume I trace 10 units ahead |
| 12:19.20 | blub_ | A1win: and there's a wall at 6 |
| 12:19.26 | Dogmai | Helral|Work: I know mate, that is my first born son right there. |
| 12:19.30 | A1win | yeah but... you're checking the pathing cost |
| 12:19.33 | Dogmai | We got a good looking boy ya know |
| 12:19.37 | A1win | that searches for a path |
| 12:19.47 | A1win | and is a lot slower than just checking a few points |
| 12:19.49 | blub_ | A1win: trigger execution is capped by # of operations :P |
| 12:19.49 | blub_ | not time |
| 12:19.53 | blub_ | unless blizzard is very stupid |
| 12:20.03 | blub_ | burne-: I'm on |
| 12:20.19 | blub_ | because if they cap it by time, laggers could kill triggers :P |
| 12:20.47 | A1win | ohh |
| 12:21.09 | blub_ | and the path finding in SC2 is fast enough :P |
| 12:21.18 | blub_ | and I never do it more than 10 times |
| 12:21.23 | blub_ | 10 if it's a REALLY HUGE distance |
| 12:21.24 | blub_ | :P |
| 12:21.30 | blub_ | if there's no path from 0->10 |
| 12:21.33 | blub_ | check for 0->5 |
| 12:21.37 | blub_ | if there is a path, check from 5->7 |
| 12:21.46 | blub_ | if there is no path, 5->6 |
| 12:21.49 | blub_ | and then you're don |
| 12:21.50 | A1win | right |
| 12:21.55 | blub_ | no numbers between 5 and 6 anymore |
| 12:22.10 | blub_ | 3 steps for distanc 10 =) |
| 12:22.44 | Nash|327 | I applied for a job :G |
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| 12:34.26 | blub_ | for 100: (->100, ->50, ->25, ->13, ->7 ->4, ->2, ->1) (rounded up fro worstcases) |
| 12:34.33 | blub_ | not even 10 steps for a distance of 100 |
| 12:35.55 | burne- | accerlated turnign rate, interesting :) |
| 12:36.16 | burne- | even tought it already is sort of lkie that |
| 12:36.26 | blub_ | set it to 5000 |
| 12:36.27 | blub_ | :P |
| 12:38.23 | burne- | you gave me a tought job |
| 12:38.29 | burne- | gotta think about this for a while |
| 12:38.44 | XenoX101 | isnt it crazy when you find a photographer you like, look up their influences and realise they are similar to your own? |
| 12:39.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (~RazielZ@95.76.229.88) |
| 12:39.03 | XenoX101 | replace with band/artist/celebrity/etc |
| 12:41.22 | Clord | XD |
| 12:41.33 | Clord | Michael Jackson JR |
| 12:41.36 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:41.42 | Clord | and made up backstory |
| 12:41.48 | Clord | the secret son |
| 12:41.49 | Clord | lol |
| 12:41.57 | XenoX101 | lol wat |
| 12:41.58 | Clord | then cash in |
| 12:42.09 | Clord | well.. some celebrities are made |
| 12:42.17 | Clord | instead became with their own effort to be one |
| 12:42.28 | Clord | with made up backstories etc |
| 12:43.37 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 12:43.39 | XenoX101 | thats crazy |
| 12:43.56 | Clord | lol... but let's not dwell to it too hard |
| 12:44.01 | Clord | otherwise might become tinfoil hat user |
| 12:44.05 | Clord | and those guys are legit crazy |
| 12:44.29 | Clord | same dudes who write conspiracies in internet and believes to them |
| 12:44.49 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 12:44.59 | A1win | conspiracy theorists don't really exist, they're just made up by some consp.. oh wait |
| 12:45.11 | Deaod | :) |
| 12:45.19 | Clord | it is like unintentional trolling |
| 12:45.24 | Clord | as they believe what they write XD |
| 12:45.51 | Clord | like this one.. sweden has some underground facility... rich people around the world go there 2012 |
| 12:45.55 | Clord | and then happens apocalypse |
| 12:45.59 | Clord | and earth is owned |
| 12:46.11 | Clord | those "nutjobs" conspiracy theories XD |
| 12:46.17 | A1win | I believe there are some conspiracies but I don't believe some crazy theorist could come up with an accurate theory of what they are ;p |
| 12:46.56 | A1win | they're called conspiracies for a reason |
| 12:47.05 | Clord | yeah like how USA was planned in advance before even conquering began |
| 12:47.10 | Clord | from natives |
| 12:47.22 | Clord | XD |
| 12:47.38 | Clord | yeah and "theories" part comes from lack of proof for any of conspiracies |
| 12:47.54 | A1win | mm... |
| 12:48.06 | Clord | and if those conspiracy related people would actually exist... we would know already that those secret societies etc exist more than just "theory" level XD |
| 12:48.09 | A1win | religions are also theories :P |
| 12:48.29 | Clord | pagan |
| 12:48.31 | Clord | you damn pagan ;) |
| 12:48.51 | Clord | didn't you knew |
| 12:48.57 | Clord | you must blindly believe |
| 12:49.01 | Clord | and not question your faith XD |
| 12:49.07 | Clord | otherwise they call you "pagan" somewhere |
| 12:49.14 | A1win | I don't have any faith to question |
| 12:49.25 | Clord | actually even lack of it |
| 12:49.37 | XenoX101 | the thing with conspiracy theorists is that they always have a vested interest |
| 12:49.37 | Clord | would make you called one |
| 12:49.44 | XenoX101 | of being 'unique' or 'exclusive' in their knowledge |
| 12:49.59 | Clord | in reality.. it is about making money |
| 12:50.01 | XenoX101 | they always want to be the ones 'in the know' who are above everyone else |
| 12:50.05 | Clord | if you act like conspiracy theorist |
| 12:50.08 | A1win | Paganism (from Latin paganus, meaning "country dweller", "rustic"[1]) is a blanket term, typically used to refer to polytheistic religious traditions. |
| 12:50.09 | Clord | and write few books |
| 12:50.11 | Clord | you get cash ^^ |
| 12:50.31 | A1win | paganism is also spiritualistic ;p |
| 12:51.01 | A1win | so calling atheists pagans is just wrong x) |
| 12:51.11 | Dekar- | +1 |
| 12:51.13 | Clord | welcome to 21th century |
| 12:51.16 | Clord | terms change XD |
| 12:51.22 | Clord | and evolve |
| 12:51.24 | A1win | hehe |
| 12:51.30 | Deaod | 21st |
| 12:51.30 | A1win | what, you believe in evolution |
| 12:51.37 | A1win | :P |
| 12:52.01 | Dekar- | we evolve during our lifetime too |
| 12:52.08 | Dekar- | genes are no fix set |
| 12:52.12 | Dekar- | they change during our live |
| 12:52.17 | Clord | it is just theory but it can be mix of both... design + mutations (evolution)... some mix of both ^^ |
| 12:52.27 | Deaod | im pretty sure our genes dont change. |
| 12:52.44 | Clord | shoot the mutans! |
| 12:52.45 | Clord | lol |
| 12:53.06 | Deaod | else wed all suffer from autoimmune diseases |
| 12:53.18 | A1win | they do, haven't you seen TMNT? O: |
| 12:53.28 | Clord | damn Shredder |
| 12:53.43 | Clord | some variations he is villain.. some others he is coward |
| 12:53.44 | Clord | lol |
| 12:54.34 | Clord | what reminds me.. that guy who came up with names has probably tought five seconds or something about them |
| 12:54.36 | Clord | stick and shredder |
| 12:54.38 | Clord | lol |
| 12:55.00 | Clord | where is mr milk? |
| 12:56.15 | Clord | I assume I'm right that when I set arc to shoot for weapon to 360.. unit not turn to shoot target |
| 12:56.18 | Clord | awesome :) |
| 12:56.33 | Clord | I have very very very weird map idea... it includes bananas and more |
| 12:56.48 | Dekar- | http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn15046-fetal-genes-record-mums-starvation.html |
| 12:56.53 | Dekar- | :3 |
| 12:57.19 | Dekar- | The IGF2 genes of the famine babies contained about 5% fewer methyl labels than their siblings, on average. |
| 12:57.40 | Clord | did you know.. they are ready to make Mammoth... estimated in six years |
| 12:58.04 | Dekar- | yes |
| 12:58.10 | Dekar- | the russians take the cells |
| 12:58.14 | Dekar- | and send them to japan |
| 12:58.20 | Dekar- | and they will make a killer robot out of them |
| 12:58.21 | Dekar- | probably |
| 12:58.38 | Dekar- | or a boring killer mammoth at least |
| 12:58.44 | Dekar- | out of flesh |
| 12:58.55 | Clord | actually in reality |
| 12:58.58 | Clord | they use elephant |
| 12:59.02 | Clord | they make elephant pragnant |
| 12:59.06 | Clord | but what borns inside it |
| 12:59.09 | Clord | is mammoth baby |
| 12:59.21 | Dekar- | is that your new map idea? |
| 12:59.46 | Clord | they know they can do it.. but now they are deciding beforehand that how much to show him etc when it is born |
| 12:59.46 | Dekar- | its probably too sexy for bnet |
| 12:59.52 | Clord | in real world |
| 12:59.56 | Clord | they are making real mammoth |
| 13:00.05 | Clord | my map idea |
| 13:00.08 | Clord | is to use vegetables |
| 13:00.11 | Clord | to make battle |
| 13:00.27 | Dekar- | fruit salad battle |
| 13:00.30 | Clord | XD |
| 13:00.41 | Clord | with some easy editing |
| 13:00.45 | Clord | they can be turned to be units |
| 13:00.47 | Clord | and not items |
| 13:01.23 | Dekar- | they are items? or do you mean the chief map stuff? |
| 13:02.07 | Dekar- | the sphere and other stuff blizz added should be units |
| 13:02.17 | Dekar- | or |
| 13:02.18 | Dekar- | doodads |
| 13:02.23 | Clord | I turn for example banana.. to be controllable moving unit what can shoot 360... so it does not need to turn :) |
| 13:02.41 | Clord | and can for example use photon cannon's weapon |
| 13:02.45 | Dekar- | and it can shoot multiple targets |
| 13:02.53 | Clord | nah idea would be to shoot one at once XD |
| 13:03.04 | Clord | it would work like marine but not need turn to shoot... for example =) |
| 13:03.19 | Dekar- | does it shoot bananas at least? |
| 13:03.28 | Dekar- | which leave |
| 13:03.31 | Dekar- | a banana |
| 13:03.35 | Dekar- | and enemy units slip on it |
| 13:03.35 | Clord | nah... idea is that map is like someone is high... and see stuff |
| 13:04.00 | Clord | lol |
| 13:04.09 | Clord | you are going rather pervert implications there |
| 13:04.16 | Clord | no it is not sex related map lol |
| 13:04.27 | Dekar- | :> |
| 13:04.39 | Dekar- | man |
| 13:04.43 | blub_ | hmmm |
| 13:04.48 | blub_ | stupid effect-target abilities ^^ |
| 13:04.55 | Dekar- | im so going to report these "bananas" shooting "stuff" at other units |
| 13:04.56 | Clord | apples could act kinda like banelings... kaboom! |
| 13:04.58 | Clord | ^^ |
| 13:06.11 | blub_ | omg |
| 13:06.22 | blub_ | why don't my "Any Unit" uses "blah" at "Any" stage triggers executed >.< |
| 13:06.43 | blub_ | can't get that to work with effect-target abilities :S |
| 13:07.16 | Clord | blizzard should allow solo maps to be played offline if mapper decides |
| 13:07.23 | Clord | to allow it |
| 13:12.14 | Clord | my 1st space map attempt for SCII |
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| 13:13.18 | blub_ | Anyone know why "unit uses ability" seems to ignore "Effect-Target" abilities? |
| 13:14.15 | Dogmai | Clord |
| 13:14.48 | Dogmai | You sit in this room probably more than anyone else, who would you say is the most helpful person? |
| 13:15.12 | burne- | omg |
| 13:15.15 | burne- | im testin my new wasd |
| 13:15.25 | burne- | so hard to say if its any better/different |
| 13:16.19 | Clord | Helral |
| 13:16.37 | blub_ | or does the effect have to exist :S |
| 13:16.43 | Dogmai | Without a doubt mate :) |
| 13:17.16 | burne- | blub_ i dont thnk it should ignore |
| 13:17.16 | Clord | Helral actually helped me to learn this move UI elements better than his own tutorial |
| 13:17.17 | Clord | XD |
| 13:17.25 | burne- | have you valitaded cast tab from abilities |
| 13:17.30 | burne- | dunno if its required |
| 13:17.52 | blub_ | cast tab? |
| 13:17.55 | blub_ | mh |
| 13:18.15 | burne- | in abilities tab |
| 13:18.21 | burne- | there is thing "validate" |
| 13:18.30 | burne- | there are things like cast, finish, channel etch |
| 13:18.37 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 13:19.26 | blub_ | don't think it#s related |
| 13:19.30 | Helral|Work | blub_: it shouldn't ignore it. |
| 13:20.11 | Helral|Work | blub_: the ability is not yet used when you get the targeting cursor. |
| 13:20.14 | blub_ | gtg gonna try later |
| 13:20.17 | blub_ | in 2 hours or so |
| 13:20.24 | blub_ | Helral|Work: I click... |
| 13:20.30 | blub_ | *facepalm* :P |
| 13:20.44 | blub_ | gotta run, cu |
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| 13:23.42 | Clord | my banana ship is ready |
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| 13:23.50 | Clord | it shoots with battlecruiser's weapon |
| 13:25.07 | Clord | it is map what is not supposed to make any sense by theme... it has even fitting name |
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| 13:30.43 | SentryIII | Hey, everyone! Plant trees! |
| 13:31.16 | Dekar- | if you buy me some to plant |
| 13:31.43 | Dekar- | i actually fight that we keep our fir in the garden |
| 13:31.45 | Dekar- | :) |
| 13:32.55 | Dogmai | is it concerning that I am watching the rocky horror picture show and particularly sweet transvestite at this moment, the moment I am doing my UI work |
| 13:32.57 | Clord | banana ship didn't do well in first try |
| 13:33.00 | Clord | it was not able to move |
| 13:33.00 | Dogmai | red lips anyone? |
| 13:34.02 | Clord | oh I did noob mistake |
| 13:34.08 | Clord | I forgot that I need to add abilities for moving |
| 13:34.11 | Clord | duh |
| 13:34.13 | Helral|Work | you forgot to add the move ability? ;p |
| 13:34.15 | Helral|Work | hahahaha |
| 13:34.17 | Clord | XD |
| 13:34.26 | Dogmai | lol |
| 13:34.34 | Dogmai | wheres there sc2mapster quote thread |
| 13:34.36 | Dogmai | -_- |
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| 13:35.25 | Nash|Laptop | just soloed Fringe a bit |
| 13:35.25 | Nash|Laptop | gonna idle again now |
| 13:35.42 | Nash|Laptop | anything going on here? |
| 13:37.04 | Clord | as this map is "HIGH on Space"... I probably make some vegetable act as space station |
| 13:37.05 | Clord | ^^ |
| 13:37.36 | Nash|Laptop | onoes it's Clord |
| 13:38.19 | Dekar- | dont forget to randomly change all units height |
| 13:38.41 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 13:39.23 | Dekar- | and use the lighting hue slider |
| 13:39.26 | Dekar- | for extra awesome |
| 13:39.50 | Nash|Laptop | LSDCraft? |
| 13:39.56 | Dekar- | yes |
| 13:40.50 | Clord | ever played WCIII mushroom map? |
| 13:40.59 | Clord | it was rather popular but personally |
| 13:41.01 | Clord | I turned sounds off |
| 13:41.19 | Nash|Laptop | it had badgers and snakes too? |
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| 13:43.10 | Clord | it mostly was patrolling clowns |
| 13:43.15 | Clord | it is map where there is kids what are high |
| 13:43.21 | Clord | and must evade obstacles etc |
| 13:43.27 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 13:43.32 | Clord | maps like that was quite popular in WCIII |
| 13:43.57 | Nash|Laptop | WC3 was for junkies :o |
| 13:44.49 | Clord | some strange reason map believes that banana is not ground unit.. thus nothing can target it |
| 13:45.21 | Clord | about junkies.. top castle fight players was mostly junkies in real life |
| 13:45.23 | Clord | and from Holland |
| 13:45.23 | Nash|Laptop | banana isn't that a doodad? |
| 13:45.30 | Clord | I know as I was short while in their clan XD |
| 13:45.39 | Clord | yeah but |
| 13:45.43 | Clord | I made it to be movable unit |
| 13:45.49 | Clord | what can shoot |
| 13:46.03 | Nash|Laptop | what does it shoot? |
| 13:46.26 | Nash|Laptop | banana flies? |
| 13:47.57 | Nash|Laptop | Why is banana not a ground unit? Banana flies! Ba-dum-dssh. |
| 13:48.14 | burne- | lolz |
| 13:48.36 | Clord | lol |
| 13:48.43 | burne- | if you read it several times it becomes funnier |
| 13:48.44 | Clord | it uses battlecruiser's anti ground weapon |
| 13:49.13 | Nash|Laptop | bananas with lasers |
| 13:49.17 | burne- | bluah i hope my wasd is good enough now |
| 13:49.38 | burne- | gona test it later |
| 13:50.23 | Clord | bananas on space |
| 13:50.24 | Clord | lol |
| 13:50.28 | Clord | ground units can go there too |
| 13:50.41 | burne- | is it like starbattle bananas? |
| 13:51.19 | Clord | plane array |
| 13:51.24 | Clord | dammit it was simple to fix |
| 13:51.40 | Clord | you could call it maybe bit parody map yeah |
| 13:51.47 | Clord | idea is to have two space stations |
| 13:52.04 | Clord | then some stuff to do to earn minerals |
| 13:52.13 | Dekar- | debates |
| 13:52.18 | Nash|Laptop | and then go bananas? |
| 13:52.20 | Clord | could do something bit like those popular seabattle maps from WCIII |
| 13:52.41 | Clord | go to do some trading to earn minerals instead just needing to kill |
| 13:52.44 | Dekar- | you would need phoenix fire ability to make such a crap map |
| 13:54.38 | Nash|Laptop | there should be a map where you spawn more overlords or construct additional pylons |
| 13:55.18 | Nash|Laptop | and it just says CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS over and over |
| 13:55.32 | Clord | lol.. reminds of south park episode |
| 13:55.38 | Clord | where is that game with dragon |
| 13:55.42 | Clord | but you never can catch it |
| 13:55.47 | Clord | game just keeps repeating and going |
| 13:56.19 | Dekar- | "dont click the unit" map |
| 13:56.35 | Clord | oh yes there is btw that silly map thing where |
| 13:56.41 | Clord | who first clicks.. loses |
| 13:56.53 | Nash|Laptop | maybe a game where you build pylons to get more minerals |
| 13:57.10 | Nash|Laptop | and space is limited so you must destroy other people's pylons |
| 13:57.25 | Nash|Laptop | and all the time it says YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS |
| 13:57.57 | Nash|Laptop | If you have no pylons you lose |
| 13:58.36 | Clord | and probe would not be killable and has attack damage so high that single hit destroys pylon |
| 13:58.43 | Clord | it would be deciding between building and destroying |
| 13:58.56 | Clord | and that would be entire gameplay almost XD |
| 13:59.35 | Nash|Laptop | naw pylons should take a while to kill |
| 13:59.50 | Nash|Laptop | you would block people's probes in with your pylons |
| 13:59.57 | Nash|Laptop | and deny them area to build |
| 14:00.18 | Nash|Laptop | so they have to spend some time killing yours to get more space |
| 14:00.20 | Nash|Laptop | :G |
| 14:00.22 | Clord | I'm missing something obvious again.... I copied phoenix turret from melee mod to campaign one |
| 14:00.32 | Clord | but still need to be stationary to shoot XD |
| 14:01.20 | Clord | duh |
| 14:01.23 | Clord | found solution again |
| 14:02.30 | Clord | my playerbase wants more and more TCG.... and it not teach this stuff very much |
| 14:02.46 | Clord | does not... |
| 14:04.35 | Nash|Laptop | pokes Nash|327 in the eye |
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| 14:09.29 | Clord | nice... moving around enemy gives advantage |
| 14:09.43 | Clord | neutral hostile enemy did lose clearly because didn't move |
| 14:10.12 | Dekar- | do you think blizz will ever correct the spelling of the gauss rifle damage effect? |
| 14:16.40 | Clord | probably not anytime soon |
| 14:16.45 | Clord | at least for campaign side |
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| 14:36.35 | Nash|327 | kittuns |
| 14:39.36 | Helral|afk | meow? |
| 14:39.43 | Dekar- | meow |
| 14:40.03 | Helral|afk | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13276752/UI_in_development.png :) |
| 14:41.03 | Helral|afk | what ya think of my menubar :) |
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| 14:41.27 | Dekar- | straight! |
| 14:41.33 | Nash|Laptop | :G |
| 14:41.39 | Helral|afk | lol |
| 14:41.45 | Nash|Laptop | does anyone wish to play Fringe :G |
| 14:41.53 | Helral|afk | I thought the default menubar was too big ;p |
| 14:42.16 | Nash|Laptop | soloing does get kind of dull :P |
| 14:43.08 | Clord | so I have giant apple and pineapple stations.... banana warship and strawberry warship |
| 14:43.19 | Clord | now to actual fun part |
| 14:43.20 | Clord | triggering |
| 14:43.26 | Nash|Laptop | I read banana worship |
| 14:43.28 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 14:43.36 | Helral|afk | lol |
| 14:43.51 | Clord | they move on ground.... but it looks like they float in space |
| 14:43.57 | Clord | that is because I want actual colliding |
| 14:44.02 | Helral|afk | the banana worshippers are the ones in control of the banana warship. |
| 14:44.19 | Nash|Laptop | ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY BANANA |
| 14:44.31 | Helral|afk | whispers all hail king of the ...... |
| 14:45.16 | Dekar- | all hail the mighty animal king sentry |
| 14:45.35 | Helral|afk | where? |
| 14:45.41 | Clord | it is currently apple station + banana warships vs Pineapple Station + strawberry warships |
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| 14:46.02 | Nash|Laptop | banana and pineapple go together better |
| 14:46.13 | Dekar- | maybe they should unite against the powerful flesh army |
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| 14:46.33 | Dekar- | meat |
| 14:46.41 | Helral|afk | glues Twiner to the IRC channel |
| 14:46.44 | Helral|afk | ;p |
| 14:47.08 | Clord | walking marines on space lol |
| 14:47.11 | Clord | people would go totally |
| 14:47.12 | Clord | wtf |
| 14:47.17 | Nash|Laptop | IN OR OUT, MAKE UP YOUR MIND D: |
| 14:47.47 | Helral|afk | Nash do you hear that yourself often? *grins* |
| 14:47.49 | Nash|Laptop | What, never heard of space walks? |
| 14:48.03 | Nash|Laptop | No, I don't. |
| 14:48.05 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 14:48.27 | Nash|Laptop | Indecision is not something that plagues me particularly often. |
| 14:48.42 | Clord | space stations could be movable but very very very slow |
| 14:48.46 | Dekar- | helral did you try to be quite specific? :p |
| 14:49.04 | Helral|afk | Dekar-: what do you mean? |
| 14:49.08 | Helral|afk | acts innocent |
| 14:49.09 | Dekar- | with your |
| 14:49.10 | Helral|afk | meows |
| 14:49.12 | Dekar- | >_> |
| 14:49.17 | Helral|afk | what? |
| 14:49.20 | Dekar- | nothing |
| 14:49.28 | Dekar- | how old is nash? |
| 14:49.30 | Nash|Laptop | You are strange. |
| 14:49.32 | Helral|afk | dunno |
| 14:49.35 | Nash|Laptop | 27 |
| 14:50.27 | Dekar- | locks Helral|afk in the dirty lumber-room |
| 14:50.40 | Helral|afk | jumps out of the window |
| 14:51.32 | Nash|Laptop | I'm too old for this shit! |
| 14:51.54 | Helral|afk | Dekar- how young are you? ;p |
| 14:52.04 | Dekar- | what year do we have? |
| 14:52.08 | Dekar- | 2011 |
| 14:52.11 | Dekar- | then i should be |
| 14:52.12 | Helral|afk | uhmmm 2011 orso ;p |
| 14:52.13 | Dekar- | about |
| 14:52.17 | Dekar- | hmm |
| 14:52.20 | Nash|Laptop | The Internet is full of kids D: |
| 14:52.33 | Dekar- | 22! |
| 14:52.35 | Dekar- | probably |
| 14:52.40 | Helral|afk | hehehe |
| 14:52.49 | Dekar- | and youuuuu? |
| 14:53.07 | Helral|afk | uhm.... let's see which month is it? |
| 14:53.12 | Helral|afk | April right? |
| 14:53.14 | Dekar- | yes |
| 14:53.16 | Nash|Laptop | Norway! |
| 14:53.21 | Helral|afk | then prolly 25. |
| 14:53.31 | Dekar- | everybody is so old! |
| 14:53.42 | Dekar- | JademusSreg! |
| 14:53.52 | Dekar- | ~seen JademusSreg |
| 14:54.06 | purl | jademussreg is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 248 messages. Is idling for 11h 23m 18s, last said: 'Testing Photon Cycles.'. |
| 14:54.06 | Helral|afk | I'm a quarter of a century old. |
| 14:54.06 | Nash|Laptop | teenagers don't make maps, they are too busy looking at boobs and calling each other fag |
| 14:54.06 | Dekar- | purl! |
| 14:54.12 | Dekar- | thanks! |
| 14:54.19 | Helral|afk | lol |
| 14:54.50 | Dekar- | some of them make boobs maps! |
| 14:54.53 | Nash|Laptop | Then again, I made maps as a teenager instead of looking at boobs and calling people fag D_D |
| 14:55.39 | Nash|Laptop | But I've never been representative of the population as a whole. |
| 14:56.22 | Dekar- | portal 2 hints at the existance of cat cubes |
| 14:56.39 | Nash|Laptop | KITTUNS ARE NOT CUBES D: |
| 14:57.18 | Dekar- | http://steamcommunity.com/id/antilux/screenshot/596935194070344271 |
| 14:58.04 | Nash|Laptop | kittuns |
| 14:58.08 | Nash|Laptop | and cubes |
| 14:58.20 | Nash|Laptop | but kittun cubes!? NEVER! |
| 14:58.57 | Nash|Laptop | An abomination, like anime catgirls. |
| 15:03.24 | Clord | this map begins to remind me of homeworld |
| 15:05.00 | Nash|Laptop | I kind of want to make a space battle RPG, but I won't make any more maps :G |
| 15:05.18 | Nash|Laptop | Too much effort for something nobody will play anyway D_D |
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| 15:06.43 | Nash|Laptop | maybe I should just work on my books nobody will read instead |
| 15:07.02 | Dekar- | dont forget to sell them on kindle! |
| 15:08.14 | Dekar- | im so close to a alpha version |
| 15:08.15 | Nash|Laptop | I have 2 books to write, maybe 3 |
| 15:08.19 | Nash|Laptop | :G |
| 15:08.35 | Dekar- | does someone force you? |
| 15:08.44 | Nash|Laptop | my brain does |
| 15:08.51 | Nash|Laptop | I keeps generating ideas |
| 15:08.58 | Dekar- | my brain forces me to be super lazy |
| 15:09.06 | Nash|Laptop | WRITE THIS BOOK YOU FUCKER |
| 15:09.21 | Dekar- | then it forces me to think abou what i could have done instead of being lazy |
| 15:09.26 | Dekar- | its so mean |
| 15:09.30 | Nash|Laptop | I WILL SPAM YOU WITH IDEAS UNTIL YOU DO |
| 15:09.33 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 15:09.53 | Clord | having no control over own brain consious side |
| 15:10.03 | Clord | can indicate... |
| 15:10.05 | Clord | insanity XD |
| 15:10.19 | Dekar- | YOU ARE TALKING LIKE THEM |
| 15:10.24 | Dekar- | NO WAY YOU GONNA GET M |
| 15:10.25 | Dekar- | E |
| 15:10.33 | Dekar- | runs away |
| 15:11.01 | Nash|Laptop | I'm not crazy, I'm just differently sane :G |
| 15:11.17 | A1win | if insanity would mean an increase in productivity, I'd gladly lose my mind |
| 15:11.50 | A1win | if I knew how D: |
| 15:11.52 | Dekar- | thats what you get when you are manic |
| 15:12.31 | Nash|Laptop | I'm not manic, my brain is |
| 15:12.53 | Nash|Laptop | It keeps generating ideas but I'm often too lazy to do anything about them :G |
| 15:13.18 | A1win | I have a huge dumpsite of ideas in my brain |
| 15:13.50 | Nash|Laptop | in brain, in notepads, in text documents |
| 15:14.06 | A1win | for games, maps, stories, pictures, 3D scenes, comics... what else |
| 15:14.19 | Dekar- | Naturally, since mania and hypomania have also been associated with creativity and artistic talent,[8] it is not always the case that the clearly manic bipolar person will need or want medical assistance; such people will often either retain sufficient amount of control to function normally or be unaware that they have "gone manic" severely enough to be committed or to commit themselves |
| 15:14.19 | Dekar- | ('commitment' is a euphemism for admission to a psychiatric facility). |
| 15:15.01 | Dekar- | anyone offers a better metnal ilness? |
| 15:15.31 | Dekar- | what causes lot sof spelling mistaked? |
| 15:15.35 | Dekar- | xD |
| 15:15.41 | Nash|Laptop | dyslexia? |
| 15:16.35 | Nash|Laptop | Asbergers, try that |
| 15:16.42 | A1win | I was once having a lucid dream while I was awake... someone said it might be a psychosis but I didn't confuse any of the imagined things with reality and vice versa :e I just "saw" things wherever and could just let my subconscious take over and spawn random stuff around |
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| 15:16.56 | A1win | next morning it was gone :( |
| 15:17.05 | nodgene | does anyone know what bloody option I need to change to ensure the slow effect for marauders works from the start? |
| 15:17.15 | nodgene | It's something obtuse somewhere... |
| 15:17.22 | Nash|Laptop | remove the requirement |
| 15:17.36 | nodgene | where is that, though? |
| 15:17.46 | nodgene | :O |
| 15:17.49 | nodgene | WHY DIDN'T I NOTICE |
| 15:18.07 | nodgene | Thanks :) |
| 15:18.11 | nodgene | stupid question really |
| 15:18.16 | Nash|Laptop | "explain link" works well |
| 15:18.55 | nodgene | I just didn't notice the requirement tab in the list. :( |
| 15:19.01 | nodgene | thanks again |
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| 15:19.34 | Nash|Laptop | I had to do that in August or something. |
| 15:19.39 | Nash|Laptop | :G |
| 15:19.43 | Bounty | Hai guys |
| 15:20.01 | Nash|Laptop | it are buntyface |
| 15:20.24 | nodgene | :D |
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| 15:23.13 | Bounty | alright |
| 15:23.18 | Bounty | let the discussion begin |
| 15:23.22 | Bounty | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/20884-sexy-gamequiz-is-coming/#p9 |
| 15:25.06 | JademusSreg | Hilarious. |
| 15:25.11 | A1win | boobs... end of discussion |
| 15:25.23 | Bounty | I think that guy is seriously going to launch that |
| 15:25.35 | Bounty | We need to take bets |
| 15:25.38 | Bounty | on how long it stays up |
| 15:25.44 | Bounty | I give it atleast 3-4 days |
| 15:25.46 | Nash|Laptop | looks like a horrible map D_D |
| 15:25.48 | Bounty | before being banned |
| 15:25.55 | A1win | indeed |
| 15:25.56 | Bounty | dont you mean |
| 15:26.04 | Bounty | Horribley sexy? |
| 15:26.18 | Nash|Laptop | no |
| 15:26.21 | Bounty | horribly* |
| 15:26.23 | JademusSreg | The map won't merely be banned, it will be super banned. |
| 15:26.24 | Dekar- | omg |
| 15:26.28 | Dekar- | yes |
| 15:26.33 | A1win | the default SC2 blip blip blip noises are an instant turn off |
| 15:26.42 | Bounty | Yeah i dont think that guy realizes |
| 15:26.47 | Bounty | He wont get a warning |
| 15:26.49 | Bounty | hes gone |
| 15:26.52 | Bounty | him and his map |
| 15:26.53 | Bounty | gone |
| 15:26.54 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:26.55 | Nash|Laptop | boobs, meh |
| 15:27.03 | A1win | he said he's quitting and doesn't care if he gets banned |
| 15:27.13 | Bounty | ah |
| 15:27.17 | Bounty | going out with a bang >< |
| 15:27.22 | Bounty | good idea imo |
| 15:27.26 | Bounty | if i ever fully quit |
| 15:27.32 | JademusSreg | The map, Headlag, and anyone related to him will be retroactively annihilated. |
| 15:27.33 | Bounty | im making that sperm race map |
| 15:27.38 | Bounty | that i talk about |
| 15:27.44 | Dekar- | 1 cookie that it will be banned far faster on eu |
| 15:27.45 | Dekar- | erm |
| 15:27.46 | Dekar- | us |
| 15:28.05 | Bounty | nah |
| 15:28.14 | Bounty | took Mafia 2 weeks to get banned and it was on top of the list lol |
| 15:28.21 | Bounty | i give it a few days |
| 15:28.25 | Nash|Laptop | if you're quitting why even bother making a map :/ |
| 15:28.33 | A1win | attention! |
| 15:28.37 | Nash|Laptop | seems like a waste of effort |
| 15:28.38 | Bounty | Pretty sure its a big F U to blizz |
| 15:28.41 | Bounty | if so |
| 15:28.44 | Bounty | i support it |
| 15:28.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:29.25 | Nash|Laptop | So make a bad map and get it and yourself banned? |
| 15:29.37 | Bounty | What better way to go out then a hail of boobies? |
| 15:29.37 | Nash|Laptop | Yes, I'm sure that will make a difference. |
| 15:29.48 | Nash|Laptop | A hail of kittuns? |
| 15:29.54 | Bounty | with boobs? |
| 15:30.01 | Nash|Laptop | NO |
| 15:30.02 | Dekar- | so, who wants to make a BLIZZARD IS SHIT AND SUCKS COCK, ALSO BNET 2.0 SUCKS ASS map? |
| 15:30.19 | Dekar- | you can be first |
| 15:30.24 | Nash|Laptop | Kittuns > boobs |
| 15:30.27 | JademusSreg | Gameplay first. |
| 15:30.34 | Bounty | I guess that guy and i are the only ones who have maps in mind that will get us insta banned? lol |
| 15:30.41 | Bounty | i thought everyone had their own idea |
| 15:30.48 | Bounty | for a map they would make to get banned |
| 15:30.54 | Bounty | if they ever decided to quit |
| 15:30.54 | A1win | oh you haven't seen the map ideas I've got in my head |
| 15:30.55 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 15:30.57 | A1win | but I think they'll stay there |
| 15:31.07 | Nash|Laptop | Why would I have such ideas D_D |
| 15:31.13 | Bounty | Why not? |
| 15:31.18 | Bounty | >< |
| 15:31.18 | Nash|Laptop | Illogical. |
| 15:31.27 | Bounty | For example |
| 15:31.34 | Bounty | My map, and ive spoken of this many times |
| 15:31.38 | Helral | meows |
| 15:31.51 | Bounty | Would be a race to a giant Zerg Egg, but everyone plays as Corruptors |
| 15:31.56 | Bounty | nuff said |
| 15:32.22 | Bounty | I would call it "Life" just to give it some more lifespan |
| 15:32.41 | Nash|Laptop | Only thing I might get banned for is profanity. |
| 15:33.29 | Nash|Laptop | I don't have ideas for maps that revolve around nudity. |
| 15:33.41 | Helral | only thing I might get banned for is meowing :) |
| 15:34.06 | Nash|Laptop | But I find sex on the whole rather uninteresting. |
| 15:34.30 | Bounty | Well thats because its suppose to be IN the hole |
| 15:34.34 | Bounty | You're doing it wrong |
| 15:34.43 | Nash|Laptop | I'm not doing it at all. |
| 15:35.11 | Nash|Laptop | Thus I can't be doing it wrong. |
| 15:35.24 | A1win | that's the only way to do it wrong |
| 15:35.47 | Bounty | Btw, i love how all the mapster mods are like... boob mezzed |
| 15:35.47 | A1win | meh |
| 15:35.47 | Bounty | nobody is locking that thread or deleting it lol |
| 15:35.48 | A1win | heh |
| 15:35.48 | Nash|Laptop | Doing it wrong would require doing it. |
| 15:36.06 | Clord | ^^ |
| 15:36.08 | Helral | what thread? |
| 15:36.08 | A1win | you're just referring to a different thing with "it" :P |
| 15:36.18 | Bounty | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/20884-sexy-gamequiz-is-coming/#p12 |
| 15:36.25 | Bounty | that thread |
| 15:36.29 | Bounty | i mean |
| 15:36.33 | Bounty | imo its not nudity |
| 15:36.36 | Bounty | because to me |
| 15:36.38 | Bounty | that girl has no nipples |
| 15:36.43 | Bounty | or atleast i cant see them |
| 15:36.51 | A1win | you're blind :3 |
| 15:36.55 | Bounty | very well blended |
| 15:37.05 | Nash|Laptop | You looked way too much at that pic. |
| 15:37.56 | Clord | 2d era when it was new for gaming |
| 15:37.57 | Clord | whatever |
| 15:38.04 | Clord | there was some very weird adult games |
| 15:38.37 | Clord | could call it interactive porn thing lol |
| 15:38.49 | Nash|Laptop | I don't want porn in my culture. |
| 15:38.50 | A1win | the finnish ones at least |
| 15:38.59 | Bounty | Nash |
| 15:39.03 | Bounty | are you male or female |
| 15:39.08 | Nash|Laptop | male |
| 15:39.11 | Bounty | kk |
| 15:39.26 | Bounty | do you have a penis? |
| 15:39.35 | Nash|Laptop | obviously |
| 15:39.46 | Dogmai | i have the biggest one in this chatroom |
| 15:39.47 | Nash|Laptop | How do you define male? :/ |
| 15:39.50 | Dogmai | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:40.08 | Bounty | i define male as... a dude? |
| 15:40.10 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:40.30 | JademusSreg | Nash is a self-proclaimed asexual; that's his lifestyle. His disinterest in sex warrants no scrutiny. |
| 15:41.00 | Bounty | wtf is asexual |
| 15:41.06 | JademusSreg | brb cleaning |
| 15:41.21 | Nash|Laptop | Basically someone who isn't interested in sex. |
| 15:41.28 | Bounty | Ah |
| 15:42.09 | Nash|Laptop | Some have no sex drive at all, I personally do, just not much of one. |
| 15:42.48 | Bounty | well, i'm pretty sure everyone gets like that when you dont do it for extended periods of time |
| 15:43.17 | Nash|Laptop | I was under the impression that people get desperate. |
| 15:43.35 | Bounty | Well i can only go based on my experiences |
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| 15:43.38 | Bounty | i just say fuck it |
| 15:43.43 | Nash|Laptop | Or like priests, start touching little boys, etc |
| 15:43.43 | Bounty | if it happens it happens |
| 15:43.43 | Bounty | if not |
| 15:43.44 | Bounty | w/e |
| 15:43.44 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:44.36 | Nash|Laptop | I feel sorry for people who have to go pick up women so they can have sex. |
| 15:44.47 | Bounty | same |
| 15:44.51 | Bounty | i got mine |
| 15:44.53 | Bounty | im good |
| 15:44.56 | Nash|Laptop | What an utterly pointless and boring waste of time. |
| 15:45.01 | Nash|Laptop | :/ |
| 15:45.11 | nodgene | What do you mean you get like that when you havn't done it in ages? Lies. |
| 15:45.12 | Bounty | i dont need to put hairgel in my hair and go to clubs full of strangers nemore lol |
| 15:45.31 | Nash|Laptop | Just to perform a non-essential biological function. |
| 15:45.43 | Bounty | stop Nash |
| 15:45.46 | Bounty | you're turning me on |
| 15:45.49 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:45.51 | A1win | xD |
| 15:45.52 | Bounty | =P |
| 15:45.54 | nodgene | Elitism not cool bro |
| 15:45.56 | blub_ | okay I'm back |
| 15:46.05 | blub_ | back to my "effect-instant" ability not triggering trigger problem |
| 15:46.05 | A1win | it's not just a "nonessential biological function" |
| 15:46.18 | Deaod | yes, it is, A1win |
| 15:46.20 | Nash|Laptop | That is exactly what it is. |
| 15:46.31 | blub_ | I mean, "effect-target" |
| 15:46.36 | Deaod | its nonessential because you dont die when you dont do it |
| 15:46.40 | blub_ | what do I need to do to get an "effect-target" ability executed |
| 15:46.48 | A1win | there are other ways to describe it as well, hence not "just" :P |
| 15:46.57 | Bounty | I feel like im going to die if i dont do it |
| 15:47.02 | Bounty | does that count? |
| 15:47.09 | A1win | I didn't say it's *not* a nonessential biological function |
| 15:47.30 | Deaod | for some its more than that, i gather. |
| 15:47.57 | Nash|Laptop | How people feel about it doesn't change what it is. |
| 15:48.08 | nodgene | Essential for babies |
| 15:48.11 | A1win | didn't say it does ;p |
| 15:48.23 | A1win | all I meant is that people do it for fun |
| 15:48.38 | A1win | just like they do a lot of other things |
| 15:48.45 | A1win | like.. make maps, or write books |
| 15:48.46 | A1win | :P |
| 15:48.47 | nodgene | People eat for fun or comfort when they don't need to too. |
| 15:48.58 | Nash|Laptop | Alas it's not just any other activity. |
| 15:49.05 | Nash|Laptop | Not by societal standards. |
| 15:49.14 | nodgene | Well it is. |
| 15:49.18 | A1win | eh? ;p |
| 15:49.23 | Nash|Laptop | It should be. |
| 15:49.31 | nodgene | You don't put "I shagged a woman" on your CV for instance, and they don't carve it on your headstone. Well, not often. |
| 15:49.34 | A1win | depends on the culture |
| 15:49.36 | Deaod | nodgene, but eating is essential for you to live |
| 15:49.58 | nodgene | In excess deod, people often will eat more than they need for pleasure. Sort of explains the obesity rate. |
| 15:50.01 | Bounty | I wonder |
| 15:50.14 | nodgene | deaod* |
| 15:50.15 | Bounty | How long could you live if you lived off oral sex |
| 15:50.15 | Nash|Laptop | But there is both an irrational hatred of the activity as there's an inflated importance but on it. |
| 15:50.18 | A1win | people do drugs, drink, smoke |
| 15:50.22 | Bounty | like, how many calories does it have |
| 15:50.23 | A1win | you don't put those in your CV either |
| 15:50.23 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:50.23 | Nash|Laptop | Have sex, or you are a loser! |
| 15:50.33 | Nash|Laptop | Have sex and you will burn in hell! |
| 15:50.35 | nodgene | irrational hatred? what? |
| 15:50.36 | Bounty | Nash, thats high school shit lol |
| 15:50.38 | Nash|Laptop | etc |
| 15:50.52 | nodgene | Lol, "have sex or you are a loser" that's young teenagers who don't know how to measure people otherwise. |
| 15:50.58 | Bounty | yeah |
| 15:51.06 | Helral | blub_: a targeted ability is used when the target has been selected ;p |
| 15:51.11 | Bounty | i dont see many ppl who think like that |
| 15:51.19 | Nash|Laptop | Not just high school shit. |
| 15:51.19 | Bounty | outside of highschools |
| 15:51.22 | nodgene | When you get to 21 and older no one cares, but amusing stories do come from friends who have been on the pull |
| 15:51.23 | Deaod | yes, people in "western" countries often eat more than they need to. |
| 15:52.12 | Nash|Laptop | As someone who doesn't have sex I experience the ongoing pressure to get laid. |
| 15:52.21 | nodgene | obesity happens in other countries too, there are fat arabs and japanese and africans. It's just not something that's on the news very often |
| 15:52.57 | Nash|Laptop | People seem to have problems accepting that someone doesn't have sex. |
| 15:53.14 | A1win | depends on the people I guess ;p |
| 15:53.16 | Deaod | i think its going to get less and less once people can rely on having enough food to live |
| 15:53.28 | Bounty | Because it goes against nature in some ways lol |
| 15:53.32 | Bounty | Natural instincts |
| 15:53.33 | Nash|Laptop | And all of society is pretty much built on forming off into pairs to go forth and multiply. |
| 15:53.37 | burne- | Meh |
| 15:53.40 | Nash|Laptop | ;G |
| 15:53.41 | Bounty | I understand not trying to get laid ALL the time |
| 15:53.44 | burne- | should i just give up on getting wasd keys for my driving game |
| 15:53.46 | Bounty | but never? |
| 15:53.54 | burne- | it just doesnt see to come together no matter what i do |
| 15:53.58 | nodgene | Lol in teenage years Nash. I didn't encounter problems in university or since amongst friends and such when sex and my lack of it is evident. |
| 15:54.00 | Bounty | i mean, i dont think u should be pressured but still |
| 15:54.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 15:54.32 | A1win | I respect women too much to just get laid for my own benefit ;p (...or even try to) |
| 15:54.32 | Nash|Laptop | Lack of understanding is almost the same thing. |
| 15:54.57 | nodgene | how do you mean burne? |
| 15:55.31 | Nash|Laptop | Especially when people start the "how can you not have sex?" like you are a freak or something. |
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| 15:55.48 | Nash|Laptop | Fortunately I don't pay too much attention to other people's opinions. |
| 15:56.10 | Bounty | I'm sorry but i have just never really seen shit like that happen |
| 15:56.19 | A1win | :P haven't had that problem, but then again I just hang around on the internet with people like me so meh |
| 15:56.21 | Bounty | Never seen people think someone is a freak bc they dont have sex lol |
| 15:56.36 | Bounty | well wait |
| 15:56.36 | nodgene | Lol Nash, what age are these people? |
| 15:56.39 | Nash|Laptop | You can't see people think. |
| 15:56.49 | Bounty | have you NEVER had sex? |
| 15:56.52 | A1win | have they actually said that or are you just imagining them implying it? |
| 15:56.52 | nodgene | Because I bet they're not 50+ |
| 15:56.57 | Nash|Laptop | No. |
| 15:56.59 | Nash|Laptop | No sex. |
| 15:57.01 | Nash|Laptop | No kissing. |
| 15:57.06 | Bounty | ok well thats why |
| 15:57.12 | Bounty | i dont agree with them |
| 15:57.12 | Nash|Laptop | No, uh, anything related. |
| 15:57.15 | Bounty | but thats prolly why lol |
| 15:57.19 | nodgene | Have you ever had a romantic partner? |
| 15:57.23 | Bounty | if you have sex once in your life |
| 15:57.25 | Bounty | and never again |
| 15:57.30 | Bounty | ppl wont get on ur case |
| 15:57.36 | Bounty | idk why but thats how it works lol |
| 15:57.42 | Nash|Laptop | I have friends, that's it. |
| 15:57.47 | Nash|Laptop | I don't require more. |
| 15:57.53 | nodgene | If a stranger is judging you by the fact you have no interest in sex I wouldn't take them too seriously. |
| 15:58.03 | Nash|Laptop | Well I don't. |
| 15:58.11 | Nash|Laptop | Just saying there is some pressure. |
| 15:58.13 | A1win | like us now |
| 15:58.14 | A1win | :P |
| 15:58.22 | Bounty | You have to see the big picture nodgene |
| 15:58.26 | Bounty | go watch the 40 year old virgin |
| 15:58.27 | nodgene | Fair enough, but it's not fair to deride others who do have an interest in sexual or romantic intimacy. Bad to generalise everyone on the "other side" as a dick. |
| 15:58.30 | Nash|Laptop | Some people have a harder time dealing with such pressure. |
| 15:58.33 | Bounty | thats exactly how everyone would react lol |
| 15:58.38 | Bounty | its not that they are being assholes |
| 15:58.51 | Bounty | some ppl think there is something wrong and/or want to help |
| 15:58.52 | Kueken | they just naturally assume you are a serial killer .) |
| 15:58.59 | nodgene | Some, but dependant on country and culture other influences and pressures are more serious |
| 15:59.00 | Bounty | yeah |
| 15:59.02 | Bounty | bc i know |
| 15:59.09 | Bounty | if i dont do it for awhile |
| 15:59.13 | Bounty | i feel like a serial killer |
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| 15:59.19 | A1win | :P |
| 15:59.20 | Bounty | >< |
| 15:59.25 | Kueken | just be careful |
| 15:59.38 | Bounty | Thats my number 1 pick up line with the Wife |
| 15:59.38 | Kueken | if you extend the "little while" you might become one :D |
| 15:59.44 | A1win | anonymous tip sent to FBI |
| 15:59.54 | Bounty | "Honey, either we have sex or i end up in the paper 2morrow" |
| 15:59.55 | A1win | ...or whatever it is where you live |
| 15:59.57 | A1win | <.< |
| 16:00.12 | Deaod | btw, religion doesnt help here at all. |
| 16:00.13 | Bounty | Usually works |
| 16:00.13 | nodgene | LOL |
| 16:00.17 | Clord | in USA |
| 16:00.22 | Clord | if you arrive to wrong house |
| 16:00.23 | Kueken | replace "I" with "you and me" :D |
| 16:00.25 | nodgene | "That's lovely dear, goodnight." *light off* "Owh" |
| 16:00.33 | Clord | you can be caught by police |
| 16:00.34 | Clord | lol |
| 16:00.44 | Clord | like in that pedo related show |
| 16:01.00 | Clord | if you are too curious and go where chat says.. they assume you are pedo |
| 16:01.05 | Clord | XD |
| 16:01.23 | Clord | what the lol that show was called again |
| 16:01.39 | nodgene | I think I was linked some youtube about that |
| 16:01.49 | nodgene | they lured some dodgy fella back to a house with a teenage girl |
| 16:01.53 | nodgene | on a flimsy premisea |
| 16:02.00 | nodgene | and then burst out with cameras |
| 16:02.06 | nodgene | and when they fled outside the police teaser'd them |
| 16:02.08 | JademusSreg | To Catch A Predator |
| 16:02.17 | Clord | that is porbably what show is called |
| 16:02.36 | nodgene | Personally, I think there's better televised forms of entertainment. |
| 16:02.49 | Clord | problem is that going to popular chats to fish out pedos.. you might end up suing people who are not and just are curious to see what is in that address XD |
| 16:03.06 | Clord | but yeqah |
| 16:03.11 | Clord | they have failsafe for that |
| 16:03.13 | Nash|Laptop | seems kind of stupid to go to that place |
| 16:03.18 | Clord | so true |
| 16:03.43 | blub_ | 17:51 < Helral> blub_: a targeted ability is used when the target has been selected ;p |
| 16:03.46 | blub_ | seriously |
| 16:03.51 | blub_ | I would have never ever thought of that |
| 16:03.51 | Nash|Laptop | "I am a horny underage girl, come to my house" "Yeah, I'll just go check that place for shits and giggles" |
| 16:04.37 | Helral | blub_: the event " unit uses ability " should still trigger all the same when an ability is used. |
| 16:04.45 | nodgene | nash, you mention having no sexual desire, but also no romantic desire? |
| 16:04.45 | Nash|Laptop | I mean, the actual predators are dumb enough, but they're thinking with their dick so no surprise. |
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| 16:04.58 | Nash|Laptop | What of it? |
| 16:05.03 | Clord | it is explained why they get so good results... it is basically because pedos.. has very hard time to resist the suggestion even if they know it is trap |
| 16:05.09 | nodgene | I'm just curious. |
| 16:05.12 | Clord | and many arrive with knowing it |
| 16:05.18 | nodgene | Have you never had romantic aspirations? |
| 16:05.23 | nodgene | Not sexual. |
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| 16:05.39 | Nash|Laptop | Eh, I can't really be bothered with all that. |
| 16:05.48 | Clord | there was guy who literally told that he expected to land on trap |
| 16:05.49 | Nash|Laptop | I'm not a very social person anyway. |
| 16:06.10 | Nash|Laptop | And I despise social rituals. |
| 16:06.17 | nodgene | Well, as I say, I asked have you ever had non-sexual romantic desires? I'm curious in terms of psychology, how far the two concepts can be apart, if at all. |
| 16:06.29 | blub_ | Helral: point was that I need to create an effect as well :P |
| 16:06.39 | Nash|Laptop | I do have desires, sure. |
| 16:06.44 | nodgene | I see |
| 16:06.57 | nodgene | But are disinterested due to the hassle |
| 16:07.03 | Nash|Laptop | I just ignore them as they are not compatible with my other desires. |
| 16:07.25 | Nash|Laptop | Like, slacking off, not engaging in bizarre social rituals, whatever. |
| 16:07.33 | nodgene | incompatible? |
| 16:07.51 | nodgene | Eh, plenty of people don't care for ritual. |
| 16:07.52 | Nash|Laptop | Priorities. |
| 16:08.00 | Clord | hehe and most importantly.. makes us human about the fact that we don't do babies just because we can.... |
| 16:08.09 | Clord | animals do that |
| 16:08.12 | Clord | they can't resist XD |
| 16:08.23 | Nash|Laptop | You can't go look for girls and sit around playing video games at the same time. |
| 16:08.31 | Clord | which draws to conclusion that pedos are not humans |
| 16:08.34 | Nash|Laptop | Or whatever it is you'd rather do. |
| 16:08.43 | A1win | I also despise a lot of social rituals but that just makes me depressed on the long run, since my desires are still very strong :P |
| 16:08.49 | Helral | meows |
| 16:08.56 | Deaod | what the fuck, Clord |
| 16:09.09 | Clord | ? |
| 16:09.09 | nodgene | You are aware Nash, there is such a thing as a "gamer girl". |
| 16:09.39 | Deaod | even pedophiles are human. |
| 16:09.51 | A1win | Deaod, he's just being "hilarious" ;p |
| 16:09.57 | Nash|Laptop | Yeah well, I play games, I don't try to chat up whatever women happen to be on there. |
| 16:10.00 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 16:10.03 | Deaod | they might have episodes where they act on their instincts, but not all the time. |
| 16:10.12 | Clord | one guy once told me.. there is no such thing as good looking nerd women XD |
| 16:10.21 | Clord | I dunno if I agree |
| 16:10.25 | A1win | I don't :P |
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| 16:10.34 | Clord | Deaod... not literally |
| 16:10.49 | A1win | Clord, but there aren't any good looking *single* nerd women |
| 16:10.53 | Clord | they act like animals |
| 16:10.59 | Clord | yeah they are humans but you know |
| 16:11.00 | Deaod | how is there any other interpretation other than literal? |
| 16:11.06 | nodgene | Yes well I'm not implying that ought to be the point of it, just saying if you want a romantic partner in a gamer girl at some point there no doubt are some out there who share similar desires with you. Since the average life expectancy is like 60+ for various regions I think there's enough time heh. |
| 16:11.09 | Kueken | depends on the definition of "nerd" |
| 16:11.14 | Clord | A1win... rare breed eh? |
| 16:11.20 | Kueken | for some ppl, it includes "ugly" |
| 16:11.41 | Clord | nerd is nowadays also compliment |
| 16:11.43 | Clord | for some |
| 16:11.59 | Kueken | again, depends on definition := |
| 16:12.06 | Clord | yeah |
| 16:12.07 | Nash|Laptop | I don't. |
| 16:12.18 | nodgene | lol clord, my ex had a small wasit and large beasts. She liked techy stuff and gaming and other indie sorts of things. Yer man was just a little ignorant. Especially since there was one thing I read about a Japanese porno start loving mass effect because she was a gamer girl. |
| 16:12.53 | JademusSreg | Unfortunate that it ended. |
| 16:12.59 | Clord | XD |
| 16:13.16 | Nash|Laptop | Pretty much any broad statement bunching people into groups is wrong. |
| 16:13.25 | Nash|Laptop | So why bother disproving them :P |
| 16:13.29 | nodgene | Heh, yes. But it was long distance, flights abroad wern't cheap and we didn't see each other enough. Bound to end. |
| 16:13.29 | JademusSreg | She sounds pneumatic. |
| 16:13.44 | A1win | Nash|Laptop, it's just another social ritual.. called small talk :P |
| 16:13.50 | A1win | or something |
| 16:13.55 | nodgene | You're engaging in it now :P |
| 16:13.59 | A1win | pointless discussion just to pass time |
| 16:13.59 | Clord | ritual? where is my ritual knife! |
| 16:14.17 | Kueken | looked n your wrist? ;) |
| 16:14.19 | Nash|Laptop | Well, then let's talk about kittuns in bags. |
| 16:14.20 | Kueken | *in |
| 16:14.27 | Kueken | noo, helral |
| 16:14.33 | Kueken | come out of the bag |
| 16:14.34 | Clord | you guys get this if you have played Amnesia to the end |
| 16:14.34 | nodgene | this will count as kittens http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yJgwwDcgV8 |
| 16:14.34 | Clord | XD |
| 16:14.37 | Deaod | thats a horrible thing to talk about. |
| 16:15.00 | A1win | nyan! |
| 16:15.04 | Nash|Laptop | Amnesia looked so boring |
| 16:15.21 | Nash|Laptop | Also, kittuns in bags is awesome |
| 16:15.32 | Clord | "paint the line. cut the line. paint the line...." |
| 16:15.32 | Clord | XD |
| 16:15.38 | Kueken | amnesia i exciting, you meet new people every day |
| 16:15.40 | Clord | part of the ritual onepoint |
| 16:16.03 | Deaod | kueken, thats alzheimers |
| 16:16.05 | Clord | your character starts to sound like maniac during that scene |
| 16:16.10 | Kueken | :/ |
| 16:16.13 | Kueken | you got me |
| 16:16.23 | nodgene | your kitten has altzeimers? |
| 16:16.23 | Deaod | :) |
| 16:16.27 | nodgene | what the fuck |
| 16:16.44 | Nash|Laptop | All the amnesia videos I saw were just people screaming madly at cheap scares though. |
| 16:16.51 | Kueken | it forgets to meow? |
| 16:17.26 | Helral | meows |
| 16:17.33 | Kueken | it remembered! |
| 16:17.33 | Nash|Laptop | ONOES I'M GOING TO DIE |
| 16:17.38 | Deaod | there we go. |
| 16:17.47 | Nash|Laptop | Dude, just reload last save D_D |
| 16:17.48 | Clord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKMHwF4S3BM |
| 16:17.50 | Helral | meow? |
| 16:17.52 | Clord | Amnesia Ritual XD |
| 16:17.56 | Clord | it is freaky scene |
| 16:18.26 | A1win | so Helral doesn't have amnesia but maybe he's got alzheimer's.. he only meant to meow once |
| 16:18.45 | Helral | meow meeeow |
| 16:19.00 | nodgene | NO amnesia the game |
| 16:19.01 | nodgene | AUGH |
| 16:19.06 | A1win | :P |
| 16:19.11 | Deaod | :) |
| 16:19.12 | A1win | yeah yeah... never played it |
| 16:19.18 | nodgene | right, time to add spawn points to an array |
| 16:19.24 | nodgene | me neither |
| 16:19.29 | nodgene | a friend linked me vids a while ago |
| 16:19.42 | Deaod | its fun deliberately misinterpreting other people. |
| 16:19.59 | Clord | Amnesia game's map editor is awesome |
| 16:20.05 | Nash|Laptop | seems all you do is pick up random crap and run away from a killer |
| 16:20.24 | Clord | youtube videos is not good indication how freaky that game is when you do it properly |
| 16:20.25 | Clord | lol |
| 16:20.28 | JademusSreg | Deaod, preface that with "My Hobby:" and you have an xkcd comic. |
| 16:20.30 | Clord | then again |
| 16:20.33 | Clord | I rather play lights on |
| 16:20.33 | Clord | lol |
| 16:20.54 | A1win | :P |
| 16:21.00 | Nash|Laptop | DOOM 3 SO SCARY IN THE DARK BWAAAH |
| 16:21.07 | Deaod | My Hobby: Deliberately Misinterpreting Other People |
| 16:21.13 | Clord | Doom 3 is joke |
| 16:21.18 | A1win | the only thing in horror games that scares me are the "cheap scares" and that's just cheap.. so I don't really play horror games cause they're often just boring |
| 16:21.31 | Clord | Amnesia is different |
| 16:21.32 | A1win | and they stop being scary after one or two times |
| 16:21.35 | Nash|Laptop | cheap scares don't scare |
| 16:21.36 | Clord | it not try cheap scares XD |
| 16:21.39 | Nash|Laptop | startle, maybe |
| 16:21.45 | A1win | well yeah |
| 16:22.02 | Nash|Laptop | Which is an instinctive reaction to unexpected stimuli. |
| 16:22.10 | A1win | most horror equals fantasy or thriller for me :P |
| 16:22.10 | Nash|Laptop | And not fear, an emotion. |
| 16:22.20 | Helral | meows ghostly:"mmmmeeeeeeoooooowwwwwwww" |
| 16:22.26 | Clord | can't blame authors of game of people's clueness aka people who have not tried it based on their experience of other horror games what obviously are not usually scary |
| 16:22.28 | Clord | :) |
| 16:22.29 | Clord | oh well |
| 16:22.34 | Clord | but I say |
| 16:22.38 | Clord | second playthrought |
| 16:22.41 | Clord | it is like sprinting |
| 16:22.41 | Kueken | ghostly meow = dead cat? |
| 16:22.46 | Nash|Laptop | No game will ever be scary. |
| 16:23.04 | Nash|Laptop | There's nothing to be afraid of. |
| 16:23.06 | Clord | Amnesia is way scarier than any horror movie I have seen XD |
| 16:23.10 | Nash|Laptop | You're playing a fucking game. |
| 16:23.12 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 16:23.18 | Clord | and horror movies are comedy |
| 16:23.24 | nodgene | You're being awfully negative today Nash. "SEX IS USELESS. NO GAME CAN EVER BE SCARY. I HATE CATS WITH ALZEIMERS." |
| 16:23.31 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 16:23.35 | A1win | :P |
| 16:23.37 | nodgene | :D |
| 16:23.39 | Clord | well.. it is Nash XD |
| 16:23.45 | Nash|Laptop | That's negative? |
| 16:23.45 | A1win | a game can be scary if you forget it's a game |
| 16:23.49 | blub_ | Nash|Laptop: if the game is not scary |
| 16:23.54 | blub_ | Nash|Laptop: then it's not supposed to be scary :P |
| 16:23.56 | blub_ | also |
| 16:24.01 | blub_ | you need to play it properly :P |
| 16:24.04 | blub_ | eg. if you play amnesia |
| 16:24.10 | blub_ | make sure you're in a dark room |
| 16:24.13 | blub_ | alone |
| 16:24.16 | nodgene | Well you've not said a positive thing yet, so... overall yes. :) |
| 16:24.16 | Clord | they suggest 1. almost complete or complete ddarkness... 2. headphones.... 3. midnight |
| 16:24.17 | Clord | XD |
| 16:24.21 | blub_ | put up surround sound |
| 16:24.23 | A1win | I'm always alone in a dark room x[ |
| 16:24.31 | blub_ | and get into the feeling |
| 16:24.36 | Nash|Laptop | I'm always in a dark room alone, often with headphones. |
| 16:24.41 | Kueken | positive attitude... another thing everyone exects from you |
| 16:25.02 | Deaod | fuck positive attitude, i prefer not being deluded. |
| 16:25.11 | Clord | they made Justine DLC.. part of Portal 2 promotion |
| 16:25.12 | Nash|Laptop | I LIKE KITTUNS |
| 16:25.15 | Kueken | if you happen to be a little negative, you need to go to a therapist and cure your depression :/ |
| 16:25.15 | Nash|Laptop | IN BAGS |
| 16:25.22 | nodgene | Well not true, people just prefer a lack of constant negativity, because often they are capable of feeling happy themsevles. :D |
| 16:25.23 | Nash|Laptop | Positive enough? |
| 16:25.30 | Clord | you play as woman/girl in DLC.... and it seems that past you tries to kill you XD |
| 16:25.33 | Deaod | if that happens to coincide with a positive attitude, good. |
| 16:25.51 | nodgene | ...why in bags? |
| 16:26.01 | nodgene | so you can throw them in a lake and drown them, you monster! |
| 16:26.09 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 16:26.11 | Nash|Laptop | Sicko. |
| 16:26.14 | Kueken | no thats where he collects them |
| 16:26.28 | nodgene | A dozen kittens, each in their personalised fabric bag |
| 16:26.39 | Nash|Laptop | Paper bags. |
| 16:26.42 | Clord | you remind of those sick guys |
| 16:26.46 | nodgene | That's just cheap |
| 16:26.47 | Clord | who put kids to bags |
| 16:26.53 | Nash|Laptop | Kittuns tear them apart from the inside. |
| 16:26.54 | Clord | puts... |
| 16:27.03 | nodgene | oh |
| 16:27.07 | nodgene | for some reason cats love boxes |
| 16:27.10 | Kueken | nash: works well with little children as well |
| 16:27.13 | Nash|Laptop | and bags |
| 16:27.13 | nodgene | special animals that they are |
| 16:27.15 | Clord | they immortalize kids who comes to visit... those dudes are sick |
| 16:27.18 | Kueken | ever tried to put a cat in one? |
| 16:27.30 | Deaod | too many Schroedinger experiments |
| 16:27.56 | Kueken | schroedinger cat is at least undead |
| 16:27.59 | Kueken | thats cool |
| 16:28.16 | Kueken | drowned cat in a lake is just dead |
| 16:28.20 | Clord | reminds of that one movie.. instead "good character" calling the police and leaving two dudes for police... he shot them from what they did.. and police found just dead bodies.. not remember what movie was called.... but she caught some kid murderers |
| 16:28.37 | Nash|Laptop | Kittuns like bags and stuff. |
| 16:28.45 | Kueken | and children ^^ |
| 16:28.58 | Nash|Laptop | Kittuns do not like children! |
| 16:29.09 | Kueken | :) |
| 16:29.09 | Clord | but moral lesson of movie was: shoot those who kill kids |
| 16:29.14 | Nash|Laptop | Grabby little cunts. |
| 16:29.16 | Nash|Laptop | :/ |
| 16:29.45 | nodgene | ...my does my skin smell of budgerigar? |
| 16:29.46 | Deaod | not a good lesson |
| 16:29.51 | nodgene | I have not owned one for years |
| 16:29.54 | Kueken | my sis had a kittun once, her daughter of about 2 years pulled the kitten through half the room |
| 16:30.02 | Kueken | and the kitten keeps purring |
| 16:30.07 | nodgene | haa |
| 16:30.18 | Kueken | *pulled at her tail |
| 16:30.36 | Clord | Deaod... politically correct: that's horrible... let law deal with them.... truth..... some situations you just have right to kill if law can't do shit XD |
| 16:30.47 | Clord | but yeah |
| 16:30.50 | Clord | rather not |
| 16:30.58 | Nash|Laptop | http://kittuns.ytmnd.com <- observe the awesomeness |
| 16:31.01 | Clord | law system would but you to jail from it |
| 16:31.04 | Clord | instead those "bad people" |
| 16:31.18 | Deaod | in addition to those bad people |
| 16:31.24 | Nash|Laptop | rules are for people without common sense and morals |
| 16:31.29 | Clord | our cat likes to go bags too |
| 16:31.41 | A1win | did you see Law Abiding Citizen, Clord ? :P |
| 16:31.44 | Nash|Laptop | Finnish kittuns like bags. |
| 16:31.51 | Nash|Laptop | I know. |
| 16:32.05 | Clord | ADblocked whitelist |
| 16:32.07 | Clord | in your dreams XD |
| 16:32.09 | Nash|Laptop | I saw pictures of one. |
| 16:32.12 | Nash|Laptop | :G |
| 16:32.18 | Clord | ADblocker |
| 16:32.18 | nodgene | depends if it can be defended in a court of law as justifiable, clord |
| 16:32.40 | Clord | lol |
| 16:32.42 | nodgene | AWH |
| 16:32.47 | nodgene | LAW ABDIDING CITIZEN WAS AMAZING |
| 16:32.51 | nodgene | For completely the wrong reasons |
| 16:32.56 | A1win | heh |
| 16:33.00 | A1win | not that special :P |
| 16:33.02 | nodgene | It tries so hard to be this moralising hardcore thing |
| 16:33.09 | Clord | it is just that I agree with authors of Death Note manga/anime... somewhat that part where Light kills the murderers |
| 16:33.10 | Clord | lol |
| 16:33.11 | nodgene | but almost every dodgy event made me either cringe or laugh. |
| 16:33.16 | nodgene | It was so retarded in places. |
| 16:34.00 | Clord | lol |
| 16:34.11 | A1win | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjGrHBpfqCo that's better |
| 16:34.12 | Nash|Laptop | Bringing up anime references in a philosophical discussion is instant forfeit though D: |
| 16:34.14 | nodgene | ending was shit too |
| 16:34.15 | Deaod | any act of violence not authorized by the government beforehand is illegal. |
| 16:34.19 | Nash|Laptop | ;G |
| 16:34.30 | nodgene | especially since the japanese are batshit insane |
| 16:34.47 | Nash|Laptop | At least the parts we see D_D |
| 16:34.52 | Deaod | self defense is usually permitted. |
| 16:35.08 | nodgene | but if you shoot someone who is running away as "punishment" it won't do in court |
| 16:35.14 | Deaod | but even then only to a certain extent, cant bring an AK-47 to a fistfight |
| 16:35.25 | nodgene | as balistics will show they died running away so you can't prove they were a threat to your life |
| 16:35.42 | Nash|Laptop | Though that all the batshit insane stuff gets imported to other places says a lot about people in those places too. |
| 16:35.43 | nodgene | yeah that's overkill |
| 16:35.56 | nodgene | well |
| 16:36.02 | nodgene | they're not real japanese in any sense |
| 16:36.05 | nodgene | lemme find reference |
| 16:36.22 | nodgene | This is what I mean by "real japanese" |
| 16:36.25 | nodgene | hardcore, and totally insane. |
| 16:36.26 | nodgene | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yukio_Mishima#Coup_attempt_and_ritual_suicide |
| 16:36.40 | nodgene | also, took failure a little badly. |
| 16:37.10 | Clord | hey |
| 16:37.13 | Clord | I saw movie of that |
| 16:37.26 | nodgene | oh? |
| 16:37.27 | Clord | yes |
| 16:37.32 | Clord | they made movie about it |
| 16:37.38 | Clord | ritual suicide and everything |
| 16:37.40 | nodgene | how was he depicted? |
| 16:37.55 | Clord | after he is not took seriously he wanted itself killed |
| 16:38.07 | nodgene | yep |
| 16:38.11 | Clord | also he used katana |
| 16:38.13 | Clord | as main weapon |
| 16:38.14 | Clord | LOL |
| 16:38.32 | Nash|327 | let's play Fringe! |
| 16:38.33 | nodgene | side note, is there a limit to the amount of else-if statements that a trigger can hold? Because this lags to add new stuff or open, but it runs fine in-game |
| 16:39.04 | Nash|327 | kill some Zerg |
| 16:39.06 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 16:39.20 | Clord | I'm not sure how he thought one speech would cause such impact |
| 16:39.48 | Clord | maybe he thought his celebrity status makes younger soldiers who not who he is.. to follow him |
| 16:39.57 | Clord | he should have threw money or something |
| 16:41.53 | nodgene | I like how he got laughed at |
| 16:41.58 | Dustin|Lappy | [11:38am] <nodgene> side note, is there a limit to the amount of else-if statements that a trigger can hold? Because this lags to add new stuff or open, but it runs fine in-game <-- No Limit that I know of |
| 16:42.06 | nodgene | good good |
| 16:42.21 | Dustin|Lappy | Not good practice to have a mile long set of if thens though :P |
| 16:42.40 | blub_ | how do I properly get the gametime? |
| 16:42.48 | A1win | blub_, mission time |
| 16:42.52 | blub_ | I see there's a libNtve_gv__GameTimer :P |
| 16:42.55 | blub_ | mission time works, okay |
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| 16:44.07 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 16:44.21 | Nash|327 | I'll be on bnet if people want to play :G |
| 16:45.00 | Deaod | does anyone know if local variables correctly shadow global ones? |
| 16:45.11 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 16:46.06 | JademusSreg | I bet it pops a syntax error in galaxy. |
| 16:46.28 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 16:46.43 | JademusSreg | GUI uses prefixes, so there's no collision over namespace. |
| 16:47.04 | AlphA_VsT | yeah if your using a global variable might as well link to it |
| 16:47.16 | AlphA_VsT | and not use a local one linkign to the global |
| 16:47.22 | JademusSreg | gv_turd lv_turd |
| 16:48.08 | nodgene | maybe I should make each else if a trigger in a folder? |
| 16:49.25 | Deaod | okay, shadowing works |
| 16:52.47 | grim001 | nodgene: GUI is laggy in the editor, oh well. |
| 16:53.25 | nodgene | aye grim001. Just wondering would it impair function if I made a big trigger folder instead of one trigger with a bazillion else ifs? |
| 16:53.26 | nodgene | in any way? |
| 16:53.35 | nodgene | or given laginess would it be preferable for editing? |
| 16:53.59 | grim001 | it would be preferable to use galaxy in an external text editor such as notepad++ |
| 16:54.09 | grim001 | but if you dont wanna do that, you'll have problems somehow or another. |
| 16:54.29 | nodgene | you can access a file in such a way? |
| 16:55.17 | grim001 | yes, if you set things up correctly. |
| 16:55.41 | grim001 | not many people know because not many people care to use galaxy rather than GUI. |
| 16:56.24 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 16:56.42 | nodgene | I shee |
| 16:59.08 | AlphA_VsT | fuck me i suck at math |
| 16:59.53 | Clord | well yeah |
| 17:00.00 | Clord | when you have popular map and you need constantly edit it |
| 17:00.02 | Clord | or rather can |
| 17:00.03 | Clord | XD |
| 17:00.09 | Clord | GUI is like heaven |
| 17:00.39 | Deaod | GUI is like hell. Always. |
| 17:01.10 | Deaod | okay, maybe im trolling here. |
| 17:01.16 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 17:01.35 | Deaod | but really, anything more complex than quests or camera movement is best done in galaxy |
| 17:01.44 | nodgene | the GUI has been alright for me in general |
| 17:03.03 | AlphA_VsT | i love teh gui |
| 17:03.07 | AlphA_VsT | fuck you guys |
| 17:03.41 | Kueken | gui is great in general |
| 17:03.42 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 17:03.48 | Kueken | I just dont like it |
| 17:04.38 | blub_ | can I somehow cancel a move command without dropping the rest of the command queue in a trigger? |
| 17:04.49 | blub_ | issueing a stop as "before existing orders" doesn't do the trick |
| 17:05.36 | AlphA_VsT | you can remove it from the que |
| 17:06.10 | AlphA_VsT | im pretty sure |
| 17:06.12 | grim001 | que is a spanish word meaning "what" |
| 17:06.27 | nodgene | que? |
| 17:06.29 | Helral | meow? |
| 17:06.40 | blub_ | AlphA_VsT: I only find "clear action queue" |
| 17:06.44 | blub_ | which lets me keep the current action |
| 17:06.47 | blub_ | but I want the exact inverse |
| 17:06.51 | nodgene | how do I import another texture palette? do I do something in dependancies? |
| 17:06.51 | blub_ | cancel current, keep rest |
| 17:07.05 | Clord | well... many english words means something else in finnish |
| 17:07.06 | Clord | lol |
| 17:07.16 | blub_ | maybe sending a stop actor message? |
| 17:07.19 | Clord | so many languages share words etc |
| 17:07.44 | nodgene | especially latinised ones |
| 17:07.58 | Helral | meow |
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| 17:08.15 | nodgene | there's a way to add new textures from another map preset |
| 17:08.27 | nodgene | THERE MUST BE |
| 17:08.58 | Helral | nodgene: can't you just use the other textures? ;p |
| 17:09.15 | blub_ | nodgene: no there doesn't need to be |
| 17:09.15 | nodgene | No I want moar textures! :O MOAR! ;D |
| 17:09.22 | AlphA_VsT | you can only have 8 |
| 17:09.26 | nodgene | WHAT |
| 17:09.27 | AlphA_VsT | on a map |
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| 17:09.31 | blub_ | nodgene: their terrain is probably saved in a way optimized to the current amount of possible textures |
| 17:09.40 | nodgene | bah |
| 17:09.42 | blub_ | nodgene: the rendering might be too |
| 17:09.45 | nodgene | disapoint |
| 17:09.47 | AlphA_VsT | you can layer all 8 textures |
| 17:09.48 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 17:10.03 | AlphA_VsT | thats why |
| 17:10.14 | blub_ | allowing to blend any arbitrary amount of textures together would be quite... well useless really |
| 17:10.22 | blub_ | when do you need more than 8? |
| 17:10.30 | AlphA_VsT | well you pretty much can |
| 17:10.41 | AlphA_VsT | i stack at least 3 regularly |
| 17:10.44 | nodgene | It's not that I need more than 8 |
| 17:10.49 | blub_ | by any arbitrary amount |
| 17:10.51 | nodgene | it's that I want one or two different ones |
| 17:10.52 | blub_ | I mean something like |
| 17:10.53 | blub_ | 193 |
| 17:10.54 | blub_ | or 284 |
| 17:10.57 | blub_ | or 084535480 |
| 17:11.03 | blub_ | :D |
| 17:11.15 | blub_ | nodgene: that should be possible |
| 17:11.22 | nodgene | WHAT |
| 17:11.23 | nodgene | REALLY? |
| 17:11.30 | nodgene | I can replace one or two I don't like? |
| 17:11.34 | AlphA_VsT | yes |
| 17:11.38 | AlphA_VsT | map textures |
| 17:11.40 | AlphA_VsT | modify |
| 17:11.42 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 17:11.48 | nodgene | WHAT WHERE |
| 17:11.49 | AlphA_VsT | brings you to the data editor |
| 17:11.51 | nodgene | This is news to me |
| 17:11.59 | blub_ | nodgene: in the data editor |
| 17:12.01 | AlphA_VsT | map menu |
| 17:12.08 | blub_ | nodgene: go to Terrain Texture Sets |
| 17:12.12 | AlphA_VsT | map textures |
| 17:12.14 | blub_ | nodgene: duplicate the one you are currently using |
| 17:12.15 | AlphA_VsT | hit modify |
| 17:12.18 | blub_ | nodgene: replace what you need to replace |
| 17:12.26 | blub_ | nodgene: or yes, the modify button opens the data editor at that place too |
| 17:12.42 | blub_ | nodgene: then you choose the new set in the Map Textures window and click apply/convert or whatever it's called |
| 17:12.48 | AlphA_VsT | your going to have to reset teh texture set anyways |
| 17:12.58 | AlphA_VsT | so m giht as well from there |
| 17:13.02 | JademusSreg | How will I fit music into my map? Mods seem like the only option. |
| 17:13.10 | AlphA_VsT | then do it |
| 17:13.14 | blub_ | okay I guess I'll just issue a stop command for now and ignore the existing queue |
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| 17:13.41 | nodgene | AMG MAP TEXTURES. Wait where is map textures, in map: map textures: ? |
| 17:14.09 | blub_ | nodgene: top menu in any of the main windows |
| 17:14.14 | blub_ | nodgene: "Map" -> "Map Textures" |
| 17:14.17 | nodgene | thanks |
| 17:14.18 | nodgene | I see |
| 17:14.22 | nodgene | it's like christmas come early |
| 17:14.24 | nodgene | ! |
| 17:14.29 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
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| 17:19.01 | SilverSeraphim1 | could someone please explain this link to me? http://i.imgur.com/wKids.png |
| 17:19.23 | JademusSreg | Explain what about it? |
| 17:19.37 | JademusSreg | The Zergling has the Aergling - Claws weapon. |
| 17:19.44 | SilverSeraphim1 | i don't understand why when i duplicate a zergling (including his actor, model, weapon, and weapon effect) the upgrade for Adrenal Glands is no longer linked |
| 17:20.03 | JademusSreg | The Zergling - Claws weapon is effected by the Zergling - Adrenal Glands upgrade. |
| 17:20.14 | SilverSeraphim | ohhh |
| 17:20.20 | nodgene | what's that map |
| 17:20.27 | nodgene | with the blocky cliffs |
| 17:20.28 | nodgene | man made |
| 17:20.31 | SilverSeraphim | so i need to modify the Adrenal Glands upgrade to include the new zergling claws copy weapon |
| 17:20.32 | nodgene | like big cubes |
| 17:20.58 | JademusSreg | nod, that's how Blizzard does cliffs. |
| 17:21.10 | nodgene | found it |
| 17:21.11 | nodgene | and lol |
| 17:21.17 | JademusSreg | Silver, do that. |
| 17:21.20 | SilverSeraphim | thanks so much JademusSreg |
| 17:21.20 | nodgene | aiur |
| 17:21.33 | nodgene | I like those cliffs, looks like a garden or something heh |
| 17:21.55 | nodgene | is there a way to modify the map lighting? |
| 17:22.06 | JademusSreg | nod, yes. |
| 17:22.13 | nodgene | :O |
| 17:22.18 | nodgene | IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE CHRISTMAS AGAIN |
| 17:22.18 | JademusSreg | The Terrain Texture Set has a field for the global lighting. |
| 17:22.33 | JademusSreg | And that references lighting data object. |
| 17:22.51 | JademusSreg | And you can change its values (which are part of a little lights editor). |
| 17:23.11 | JademusSreg | nod, I'll show you. |
| 17:23.29 | JademusSreg | nod: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/GateDemo.SC2Map |
| 17:23.39 | JademusSreg | Open that in the editor and Test Document. |
| 17:23.48 | JademusSreg | And you'll see how it looks in game. |
| 17:24.01 | JademusSreg | Of course, the quality will depend on your graphic settings. |
| 17:24.10 | nodgene | I shee |
| 17:24.43 | nodgene | I see |
| 17:25.08 | JademusSreg | Go through the gates? |
| 17:25.14 | JademusSreg | That's where the fun is. |
| 17:25.17 | nodgene | hold on |
| 17:27.05 | nodgene | BUT I CAN'T KILL IT |
| 17:27.49 | Helral | meow? |
| 17:27.56 | nodgene | here |
| 17:28.07 | Helral | meow?? |
| 17:28.13 | Kueken | meow! |
| 17:28.37 | nodgene | I don't understand, how do I take say, one one texture or cliff setting from another texture pallete using the editor? I'm in the texture settings window but it appears like I can only mass change things? Or have I got the short end of the sticvk? |
| 17:29.04 | Kueken | go to the data editor |
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| 17:29.12 | Kueken | texture sets are data objects |
| 17:29.17 | Kueken | you can edit them there |
| 17:29.17 | nodgene | oh |
| 17:30.03 | nodgene | :O |
| 17:30.05 | SilverSeraphim | JademusSreg: do you know, if i have duplicated a Zergling, is it then necessary for me to have a duplicated Zergling (Burrowed) even if zerglings will never burrow in my map? |
| 17:30.06 | nodgene | I SEE |
| 17:30.16 | nodgene | haa |
| 17:30.20 | nodgene | zergling hates you |
| 17:30.23 | AlphA_VsT | YES |
| 17:30.24 | AlphA_VsT | TES |
| 17:30.24 | JademusSreg | brb, budy |
| 17:30.26 | AlphA_VsT | YES |
| 17:30.27 | JademusSreg | *busy |
| 17:30.33 | AlphA_VsT | bounty is goign to love me |
| 17:30.59 | AlphA_VsT | i want to work with him on that sniper map |
| 17:31.29 | AlphA_VsT | or i will completely destroy his map with awesome |
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| 17:32.18 | SilverSeraphim | can i add an additional Data Modification to an existing upgrade? |
| 17:32.27 | AlphA_VsT | sure |
| 17:32.30 | Kueken | sure, why not? |
| 17:32.39 | nodgene | OH I SEE. Ah, now I understand. Use data editor, duplicate and then edit. I shee, very clever. |
| 17:33.14 | SilverSeraphim | http://i.imgur.com/aeocR.png |
| 17:33.28 | SilverSeraphim | there doesn't seem to be a [+] box for me to add another weapon effect |
| 17:34.08 | SilverSeraphim | nevermind |
| 17:34.15 | SilverSeraphim | right click >> Add Effect |
| 17:34.16 | SilverSeraphim | =p |
| 17:35.13 | AlphA_VsT | how do remove button sounds? |
| 17:35.17 | burne- | finally |
| 17:35.21 | burne- | my wasd looking good! |
| 17:35.29 | AlphA_VsT | burne |
| 17:35.33 | AlphA_VsT | im sure its not |
| 17:36.00 | burne- | FU |
| 17:36.00 | burne- | its good |
| 17:36.00 | AlphA_VsT | im working on an amazing wasd |
| 17:36.00 | Dustin|Lappy | Omg |
| 17:36.00 | Dustin|Lappy | Why can I NEVER loginto curse when I want to |
| 17:36.00 | AlphA_VsT | lag free on bnet so fuck you |
| 17:36.00 | Dustin|Lappy | It's always giving me Server Errors |
| 17:36.05 | burne- | :D |
| 17:36.12 | burne- | why so serial? :D |
| 17:36.21 | AlphA_VsT | cause im a killer |
| 17:36.22 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 17:36.42 | AlphA_VsT | but really i just had to add in turning |
| 17:36.53 | AlphA_VsT | and i can test it |
| 17:37.00 | Dustin|Lappy | Watchout guys, one of you might get on eachothers facebook and find the others address then drive out there and kill the other one |
| 17:37.11 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 17:37.23 | burne- | so someone wana test suun on EU? |
| 17:37.26 | burne- | my awesome wasd |
| 17:37.32 | burne- | my wasd is different that normal wasd tought |
| 17:37.37 | burne- | sicne its for driving game |
| 17:37.37 | AlphA_VsT | how so? |
| 17:37.44 | AlphA_VsT | interesting |
| 17:37.50 | AlphA_VsT | not on eu |
| 17:38.04 | Dustin|Lappy | The core problem with WASD is KEy Detection lag |
| 17:38.13 | Dustin|Lappy | How are you people thinking you're going to code that away? |
| 17:38.33 | burne- | im using data wasd (i think it laggs a bit less) |
| 17:38.38 | burne- | even tought its not optimal |
| 17:39.02 | Dustin|Lappy | Can you hold each key down at the same time? |
| 17:39.08 | burne- | no need |
| 17:39.14 | Dustin|Lappy | Then it's not WASD |
| 17:39.14 | burne- | cause its driving game |
| 17:39.18 | burne- | :) |
| 17:39.20 | Dustin|Lappy | :P |
| 17:39.38 | burne- | how do you define wasd? |
| 17:39.57 | SilverSeraphim | can someone explain to me why there is the "Zerg Melee Weapons" upgrade, but then ALSO "Zerg Melee Attacks Level 1-3"? http://i.imgur.com/FSOcV.png |
| 17:40.05 | Helral | wasp? |
| 17:40.12 | burne- | wasd |
| 17:40.18 | Helral | anyone little flying bugger with a stinger ;p |
| 17:40.20 | burne- | you troll |
| 17:40.26 | Helral | meows innocently |
| 17:40.45 | Helral | meows troll-like |
| 17:40.49 | Helral | :P |
| 17:41.00 | Dustin|Lappy | WASD is movement/controll method using the WASD keys to detect and apply actions |
| 17:41.45 | burne- | so its wasd for me too |
| 17:41.47 | burne- | :) |
| 17:42.38 | Helral | swipes at the wasp |
| 17:42.55 | Dustin|Lappy | Nah, you can't detect multiple key presses at once |
| 17:43.11 | Dustin|Lappy | So it'd be useless as a system for anyone wanting to use it for a different style map |
| 17:43.17 | burne- | lol |
| 17:43.23 | burne- | good argument |
| 17:43.24 | burne- | NOT |
| 17:43.35 | Dustin|Lappy | You have a Custom ability movement data driven control method |
| 17:43.46 | Helral | btw burne-: can you give gas and turn at the same time? |
| 17:43.57 | burne- | no you cannot |
| 17:44.01 | burne- | you just have to deal with it |
| 17:44.05 | Helral | I can in my car O.o |
| 17:44.06 | burne- | all tought you can press brake |
| 17:44.13 | burne- | it brakes for a while |
| 17:44.15 | burne- | and turn at same time |
| 17:44.18 | burne- | same for gas |
| 17:44.25 | burne- | you can accerlate and turn same time |
| 17:44.30 | burne- | just cannot press them at same time |
| 17:50.58 | burne- | gah |
| 17:51.05 | burne- | there still is some weird bug that occurs sometimes |
| 17:51.11 | burne- | dunno what causes it :( |
| 17:52.24 | burne- | like |
| 17:52.30 | burne- | i got all -values |
| 17:52.37 | burne- | and then it still gives me + for some reason |
| 17:52.38 | burne- | :( |
| 17:52.44 | burne- | i guess there might be -- |
| 17:53.03 | Helral | meow? |
| 17:55.28 | burne- | yeas |
| 17:55.32 | burne- | big meow |
| 17:55.33 | burne- | ? |
| 17:56.49 | Helral | meow |
| 17:57.42 | burne- | its ready for testing |
| 17:57.42 | burne- | OK |
| 17:57.46 | burne- | my WASD 3.0 |
| 17:58.07 | Dustin|Lappy | Ahem |
| 17:58.09 | Dustin|Lappy | *Custom ability movement data driven control method |
| 17:58.52 | burne- | if you want to live in a live |
| 17:58.58 | burne- | cause its super awesome WASD |
| 17:59.12 | burne- | maybe |
| 17:59.17 | burne- | bnet delay might suprise me |
| 17:59.18 | burne- | again |
| 18:00.33 | burne- | meow |
| 18:00.35 | burne- | :( |
| 18:01.56 | blub_ | can I somehow get a unit-ID from a unit? |
| 18:02.07 | blub_ | or do I have to make one up :P |
| 18:02.35 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 18:02.57 | Dustin|Lappy | Make one up |
| 18:03.08 | Dustin|Lappy | Impliment some sort of unit indexing system |
| 18:03.48 | SilverSeraphim | is there a way to reset a unit back to it's default everything if you changed it? |
| 18:04.20 | blub_ | Unit Created triggers don't happen to trigger for units placed in the terrain editor? :/ |
| 18:04.25 | Dustin|Lappy | Right Click -> Set to parent / default |
| 18:04.35 | SilverSeraphim | that's what i thought, but when i did that nothing changed |
| 18:04.54 | SilverSeraphim | wait, maybe it did work |
| 18:05.07 | Dustin|Lappy | Blub, no, Units Entering Region does though |
| 18:05.13 | blub_ | right |
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| 18:05.35 | blub_ | "any unit enters entire map" should work then |
| 18:05.53 | Dustin|Lappy | Yup |
| 18:06.50 | nodgene | NOW MY TEXTURE PALLETE MAKES NO SENSE WHATSOEVER |
| 18:06.52 | nodgene | AND I LOVE IT |
| 18:12.36 | AlphA_VsT | what makes an ability passive? |
| 18:13.36 | JademusSreg | There are no passive abilities, really. |
| 18:13.46 | JademusSreg | There are buttons on the command card though. |
| 18:13.58 | JademusSreg | And there are behaviors which correspond to those buttons. |
| 18:14.20 | AlphA_VsT | what makes an ability not clickable |
| 18:14.21 | JademusSreg | The concept of a passive ability has mostly been folded into behaviors now. |
| 18:14.29 | JademusSreg | It's just a command card button. |
| 18:15.16 | AlphA_VsT | oh i see |
| 18:15.23 | AlphA_VsT | i knew it was there some place :D |
| 18:19.03 | SilverSeraphim | JademusSreg: would you mind taking a quick look at my copied Zergling and see if you can tell why it's not working correctly? |
| 18:20.06 | JademusSreg | Describe first how it is not working. |
| 18:20.10 | SilverSeraphim | ok sure thing |
| 18:20.16 | JademusSreg | If I can't solve it based on that, I'll take a look. |
| 18:20.19 | SilverSeraphim | i copied a Zergling and called him "Speedling" |
| 18:20.42 | SilverSeraphim | i changed the Metabolic Boost upgrade and Adrenal Glands upgrade to affect Speedling isntead of Zergling |
| 18:20.59 | SilverSeraphim | when i start the game, there are a bunch of errors and the are both normal zerglings |
| 18:21.06 | SilverSeraphim | (speedling doesn't have wings and is not faster than Zergling) |
| 18:21.36 | Kueken | adrenal for speedlings? |
| 18:21.38 | JademusSreg | So you want the speedling to be affected by the upgrades? |
| 18:21.39 | Kueken | HERESY |
| 18:21.44 | Kueken | call em cracklings |
| 18:21.45 | Kueken | ! |
| 18:21.56 | SilverSeraphim | fair enough, and yes |
| 18:22.08 | Kueken | just screw the uprades xD |
| 18:22.12 | SilverSeraphim | i want zerglings to just be themselves, and this new unit to be a crackling |
| 18:22.13 | JademusSreg | So the player researches the upgrades? |
| 18:22.13 | Kueken | make the unit faster |
| 18:22.18 | SilverSeraphim | no the player does not |
| 18:22.22 | Kueken | and lower weapon period |
| 18:22.27 | JademusSreg | Then why wouldn't you just modify the unit? |
| 18:22.35 | SilverSeraphim | i guess that's a good point |
| 18:22.43 | Kueken | and use an actor message to show the wngs |
| 18:22.56 | Kueken | make some dummy buttons if you need them |
| 18:23.05 | JademusSreg | Kueken is spot on. |
| 18:23.06 | SilverSeraphim | well i could just pick the winged ling model for the new unit i think |
| 18:23.13 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 18:23.22 | SilverSeraphim | so i was making this way harder than it needed to be |
| 18:23.27 | JademusSreg | A bit. |
| 18:23.28 | Kueken | its not a different model actually |
| 18:23.33 | SilverSeraphim | oh |
| 18:23.36 | Kueken | look at the zerglings actor events |
| 18:23.48 | Kueken | its just a different animation from the usual model |
| 18:24.10 | Kueken | however you can probably just copy the zergling actor |
| 18:24.30 | Kueken | and change the events |
| 18:24.41 | SilverSeraphim | well i think i've made a big mess with actors now |
| 18:24.43 | Kueken | should be easy to get which one reacts on the upgrade |
| 18:25.02 | Kueken | yeah, well, thats what actors generally are :) |
| 18:27.12 | Nash|327 | pewpew |
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| 18:27.43 | Stewox | what the heck is this pew stuff lately ? |
| 18:28.19 | Stewox | Kueken |
| 18:28.34 | Stewox | the gamespeed has been solved for SC2 ;) |
| 18:28.54 | Stewox | for those that want movies and stuff can have a lot better experience now |
| 18:29.07 | Stewox | there's a few guys on yotube |
| 18:35.06 | AlphA_VsT | seriously |
| 18:38.53 | AlphA_VsT | fuck yes |
| 18:40.08 | AlphA_VsT | how do you hide a actor for a single player? |
| 18:40.31 | nodgene | punch him out! |
| 18:40.34 | nodgene | no idea, sorry... |
| 18:42.29 | JademusSreg | Some have the link for that? |
| 18:42.36 | JademusSreg | There's a resource for that. |
| 18:42.48 | JademusSreg | Basically, it uses a simple actor and two functions. |
| 18:42.53 | JademusSreg | Very cool stuff. |
| 18:44.05 | AlphA_VsT | any tutorial or some shit? |
| 18:47.09 | AlphA_VsT | lol im working with bounty and he doesnt even knwo it yet :D |
| 18:51.49 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 18:52.12 | SilverSeraphim | where do i set a unit's speed? |
| 18:52.49 | nodgene | stats |
| 18:52.50 | nodgene | tab |
| 18:52.55 | nodgene | wait |
| 18:52.58 | nodgene | isn't there a movement tab |
| 18:53.18 | SilverSeraphim | oh yeah, i see it |
| 18:53.23 | SilverSeraphim | i was looking under stats |
| 18:53.24 | SilverSeraphim | thanks |
| 18:53.34 | nodgene | yeo |
| 18:54.25 | blub_ | ... |
| 18:54.29 | blub_ | "Unit is being removed" events |
| 18:54.42 | blub_ | are custom-values erased BEFORE it is called!?!? |
| 18:54.53 | nodgene | no clue |
| 18:55.02 | blub_ | the value I'm trying to read is 0 |
| 18:55.08 | blub_ | but should be 11 >.< |
| 18:56.22 | Helral | burne-: I also have a revive system buildin ;p |
| 18:56.25 | AlphA_VsT | before you remove it save it 0.o |
| 18:56.46 | burne- | good good |
| 18:57.38 | nodgene | how do I put it, so that the "for each player in [allies/enemies of player (killing player)] do actions" can do "game- end game in victory for player 1" properly? |
| 18:58.23 | blub_ | AlphA_VsT: me? |
| 18:58.24 | burne- | yea |
| 18:58.25 | burne- | found it |
| 18:58.32 | nodgene | ANYONE |
| 18:58.34 | burne- | Helral_ http://armorgames.com/play/10373/hack-slash-crawl |
| 18:58.39 | burne- | just like your dungeon map |
| 18:58.39 | burne- | :) |
| 18:59.10 | blub_ | are we all remaking armorgames games in sc2? XD |
| 18:59.23 | burne- | seems so |
| 18:59.41 | burne- | my wasd is better now blub |
| 18:59.44 | burne- | almost good enough |
| 18:59.46 | burne- | but not quite |
| 18:59.47 | burne- | :( |
| 18:59.47 | blub_ | nice |
| 18:59.52 | SilverSeraphim | hey JademusSreg and Kueken, just wanted you guys to know my cracklings and zerglings are working now =D thanks!! |
| 18:59.52 | blub_ | I'm trying something cruel btw |
| 18:59.57 | burne- | I feel so stupid |
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| 19:00.06 | blub_ | but if it works I'll show you XD |
| 19:00.09 | burne- | tried to make really complex system |
| 19:00.10 | burne- | and then really simple system works so much better |
| 19:00.11 | blub_ | fi not I'll put it in the dumpster |
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| 19:01.53 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:02.52 | blub_ | NOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 19:03.00 | blub_ | custom values really get removed before the removal trigger is executed |
| 19:03.08 | blub_ | That... Is... Freaking... AWFUL |
| 19:03.13 | burne- | hmm |
| 19:03.19 | burne- | unit custom values? |
| 19:03.19 | burne- | :E |
| 19:03.23 | Kueken | was to be expected, though |
| 19:03.30 | blub_ | no... |
| 19:03.36 | blub_ | that's stupid |
| 19:03.38 | blub_ | not to be expected |
| 19:03.41 | blub_ | it makes no sense |
| 19:03.42 | Kueken | for wc3 it was just the same ;) |
| 19:03.59 | blub_ | after all, the trigger still has access to the unit |
| 19:04.03 | blub_ | so removing the values makes no sense |
| 19:04.14 | blub_ | then how the hell am I supposed to free the unit's ID again >.< |
| 19:04.23 | blub_ | grrrrr |
| 19:04.31 | blub_ | is there really no way to get the unit's internal ID? |
| 19:05.06 | Kueken | that one is gone after removal as well :) |
| 19:05.29 | nodgene | store the ID as a variable when it's created for future reference? |
| 19:05.41 | blub_ | Kueken: "during" |
| 19:05.51 | blub_ | the trigger's called "BEING removed" :P |
| 19:05.57 | Kueken | the trigger triggers after removal, not during |
| 19:06.07 | nodgene | ... |
| 19:06.10 | nodgene | this makes no sense |
| 19:06.11 | blub_ | still stupid |
| 19:06.19 | blub_ | any way to trigger it before the actual removal? |
| 19:06.29 | blub_ | I really need this >.< |
| 19:06.40 | Kueken | removal = death in your case? |
| 19:06.48 | blub_ | or removal :P |
| 19:06.49 | Kueken | or would there be a difference |
| 19:06.57 | blub_ | well |
| 19:07.00 | nodgene | what do you mean removal |
| 19:07.02 | blub_ | I guess I can "kill" all units "first" |
| 19:07.10 | blub_ | before removing |
| 19:07.13 | blub_ | UnitRemove() |
| 19:07.15 | blub_ | or whatever :P |
| 19:07.27 | Kueken | a standard unit has a death time of 0 |
| 19:07.31 | nodgene | why do you want his info after zapping him into oblivion |
| 19:07.41 | Kueken | in this case kill and removal are equivalent |
| 19:07.45 | blub_ | because I link units together |
| 19:07.47 | Kueken | except the death animation |
| 19:07.47 | blub_ | and need to remove the link |
| 19:07.51 | blub_ | because the "other" unit will be updated |
| 19:08.26 | nodgene | why not have something that checks if the unit exists on any death and then if not deletes whatever? |
| 19:08.39 | Kueken | so if you cause the remove via trigger anyway |
| 19:08.48 | Kueken | why not make a custom remove function? |
| 19:09.01 | Kueken | which handles the id stuff before the removal |
| 19:09.21 | blub_ | can't guarantee it's always used |
| 19:09.23 | blub_ | i guess |
| 19:09.41 | Kueken | so the unit can die as well? |
| 19:11.32 | AlphA_VsT | hmmm major issue |
| 19:12.53 | burne- | "you use sc2 editor too much when your maps update status on bnet goes from 0.10 to 0.24 |
| 19:12.57 | burne- | " |
| 19:13.22 | burne- | in a day |
| 19:13.23 | burne- | :( |
| 19:13.59 | Kueken | xD |
| 19:14.14 | Kueken | when testing variants it went up like .50 for me |
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| 19:40.51 | burne- | Helrar did you play the flash game? |
| 19:40.52 | burne- | you must! |
| 19:40.56 | burne- | since i found it for you |
| 19:40.57 | burne- | :( |
| 19:41.10 | burne- | his name is so hard to typer |
| 19:41.23 | burne- | helral |
| 19:41.27 | Helral | meow |
| 19:41.29 | burne- | Helral |
| 19:41.31 | burne- | good |
| 19:41.33 | burne- | it went right |
| 19:41.36 | Helral | Bonecrusher :) |
| 19:44.55 | burne- | need someone to test my driving game again on EU |
| 19:45.06 | burne- | i wana see what you thnk of the wasd 4.0 |
| 19:45.07 | burne- | :D |
| 19:45.23 | burne- | brb |
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| 20:13.27 | blub_ | Kueken: no, can't die |
| 20:13.34 | blub_ | the point is to only be removed at some...point ^^ |
| 20:13.52 | Clord | I did new version from TCG and hope that it works right |
| 20:13.53 | Clord | gg |
| 20:15.13 | Clord | I made unlockable deck with very easy riddle like thing |
| 20:15.15 | Clord | to unlock it |
| 20:15.28 | Clord | it is funny IQ test what anyone can solve |
| 20:15.29 | Clord | XD |
| 20:17.49 | Clord | I should probably go to make sure that unit works right |
| 20:17.55 | Clord | I don't want nasty surprises |
| 20:19.51 | SilverSeraphim | is there an easy way to only allow the camera to pan left/right and NOT up/down? |
| 20:20.13 | Bounty | You there JademusSreg? |
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| 20:22.54 | Clord | I make new record when I release stuff without new bugs |
| 20:22.55 | Clord | lol |
| 20:24.45 | Helral | Clord: that's impossible ;p |
| 20:24.47 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 20:25.08 | SilverSeraphim | anyone know how to make the camera pan left/right but not up/down? |
| 20:25.42 | SilverSeraphim | i tried making a region that is only .25 height but quite wide and locking to that, but you can still go up and down a tiny bit |
| 20:26.19 | Clord | reminds me.. SEA TCG is without patching support by me XD |
| 20:26.24 | Clord | and yet it was like top map there |
| 20:26.24 | Clord | so |
| 20:26.34 | Clord | it seems that many realized slowly that I uploaded it to US side too |
| 20:26.44 | Clord | nice amount bookmarks there |
| 20:27.33 | Nash|327 | Did you buy another copy? |
| 20:28.21 | Helral | SilverSeraphim: you got a reason why the players shouldn't be able to move the cam up/down? |
| 20:28.49 | SilverSeraphim | it's a push map and there is no reason to move up or down |
| 20:28.53 | SilverSeraphim | only left/right |
| 20:29.21 | Helral | so? I'd still let them move up/down if they wanted to, even though it's useless ;p |
| 20:29.39 | SilverSeraphim | lol |
| 20:29.46 | SilverSeraphim | well if i can't get it to work i won't worry about it |
| 20:30.08 | Clord | Hybrid is now nice in TCG.. I finally somewhat fixed it's wraith ability ^^ |
| 20:30.14 | Clord | when hybrid dies first time |
| 20:30.17 | Clord | new one appears over it |
| 20:31.12 | Clord | also I got finally idea for Hybrid Maar |
| 20:31.16 | Clord | so I added that dude |
| 20:31.43 | Helral | Clord: did you create a SC2Mapster deck yet? |
| 20:31.52 | Clord | lol no |
| 20:31.56 | Clord | but I added Hybrid deck |
| 20:32.12 | Clord | it is cloning and maar focused ;) |
| 20:32.44 | Bounty | Anyone here pick up the new Mortal Kombat? |
| 20:32.46 | Clord | I probably dump to it more targeted spells |
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| 20:33.49 | Clord | anyways.. this Hybrid Maar deals 50 damage.... but.. he loses health equal to damage dealt ;) however units what damage him.... heals him equal amount of damage received |
| 20:33.51 | Ashamed | good afternoon :) |
| 20:33.59 | Clord | so basically you want it to waste heal |
| 20:34.01 | Clord | XD |
| 20:34.06 | Helral | good eeevening ;p |
| 20:34.26 | Clord | basically it is super tank if enemy sends huge force |
| 20:34.33 | Clord | he heals faster than deals damage per second XD |
| 20:35.59 | Clord | it costs 150 vespene gas and has 150 health lol... yeah some balancing to be done :) |
| 20:36.42 | Bounty | So |
| 20:36.49 | Bounty | Who wants to help me test real fast |
| 20:37.28 | Bounty | thought so |
| 20:37.39 | Helral | ok Bounty: what is 256^2? |
| 20:37.47 | Bounty | ??? |
| 20:37.54 | Bounty | wtf is ^ |
| 20:37.56 | Helral | ow you didn't mean a math test? |
| 20:38.01 | Helral | power |
| 20:38.07 | Nash|327 | 65536 iirc |
| 20:38.17 | Helral | so basicly 256*256 ;p |
| 20:38.27 | Helral | which indeed is 65536 ;p |
| 20:38.41 | Bounty | im taking this as both of u have nothing to do but still wont help test? :) |
| 20:38.43 | Kueken | meow? |
| 20:38.50 | Bounty | FACE |
| 20:39.02 | Helral | I don't feel like playing sc2 atm.... |
| 20:39.31 | Bounty | well, the map is nothing like SC2 |
| 20:39.32 | Bounty | if that helps |
| 20:39.54 | Clord | that mathematic thing is useful for what? XD |
| 20:40.02 | Clord | oh I think |
| 20:40.06 | Clord | square root or whatever |
| 20:40.07 | Clord | ^^ |
| 20:41.31 | Helral | hmmmm what would 123E-5 be? |
| 20:42.11 | Clord | you just broke google |
| 20:42.13 | Clord | damn you ;) |
| 20:42.19 | Helral | lol |
| 20:42.24 | Clord | lol |
| 20:42.29 | Helral | you trying to google that? |
| 20:42.36 | Clord | XD |
| 20:42.41 | Helral | hehehe |
| 20:42.57 | Clord | it found results of some datasheets |
| 20:43.05 | Helral | 0.00123 if I remember correct ;p |
| 20:44.00 | Clord | Dawn of War II: Retribution – The Last Standalone |
| 20:44.01 | Clord | XD |
| 20:44.12 | Clord | they made that one game mode as standalone game |
| 20:44.14 | Clord | to milk more |
| 20:46.09 | Clord | oh |
| 20:46.13 | Clord | it discounts full game |
| 20:46.14 | Clord | XD |
| 20:46.24 | Clord | businessmen failed there ;) |
| 20:48.30 | Clord | my quality assurance what is self volunteered... lol |
| 20:48.33 | Clord | his slipping |
| 20:49.09 | Clord | is |
| 20:50.04 | Helral | meow |
| 20:50.08 | Dekar- | rawr |
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| 20:51.31 | Clord | okay... protoss sends waves or whatever to fry drunkard guy's brain |
| 20:51.40 | Clord | so they can communicate with him better |
| 20:51.44 | Clord | oh yes Jim Raynor |
| 20:51.59 | Clord | I wonder.. why they don't use it as direct weapon |
| 20:52.05 | Clord | is it somewhat against honor lol |
| 20:52.11 | Clord | somehow |
| 20:52.45 | Dekar- | did i ignore someone or did clord finally snap? |
| 20:53.31 | Helral | you ignored someone *grins* |
| 20:53.36 | Dekar- | whoo? |
| 20:53.47 | Helral | Clord's imaginary friend. |
| 20:53.50 | Dekar- | aww |
| 20:53.53 | Dekar- | thats cute |
| 20:53.58 | Clord | lol |
| 20:53.59 | Clord | nah |
| 20:54.02 | Helral | :) |
| 20:54.10 | Clord | I just go these... I wonder trips |
| 20:54.12 | Clord | lol |
| 20:54.18 | Dekar- | "wonder trips" |
| 20:54.22 | JademusSreg | My map isn't going to have music any time soon. =D |
| 20:54.28 | Helral | hmmmmmm |
| 20:54.28 | Dekar- | :( |
| 20:54.29 | Dekar- | why? |
| 20:54.33 | Helral | because he got high? |
| 20:54.41 | Clord | nah |
| 20:54.45 | Clord | it is because I try to use logic |
| 20:54.47 | Clord | for fiction |
| 20:54.50 | Dekar- | like i needed to ask for this information |
| 20:54.55 | JademusSreg | Can't upload a mod with it. |
| 20:55.10 | Dekar- | try harder next time |
| 20:55.15 | Helral | ow but fiction is logical using the fiction's logic. |
| 20:55.36 | Clord | I don't exactly give bonus points for sci-fi stuff what is nowhere near logical and yeah.. I should just stop thinking those details and not ruin the movie/game XD |
| 20:55.41 | Dekar- | i want music! |
| 20:55.56 | Dekar- | well clord |
| 20:56.00 | Dekar- | you should watch eureka |
| 20:56.01 | Helral | purl give Dekar music |
| 20:56.01 | purl | ACTION gives music to Dekar |
| 20:56.05 | Dekar- | you will like it |
| 20:56.06 | Helral | ;p |
| 20:56.11 | JademusSreg | What matters is that fiction is internally consistent; if it must to be illogical, be consistently illogical. |
| 20:56.25 | Clord | good thing is that I actually can enjoy from sci-fi stuff |
| 20:56.31 | Clord | but I sometimes think them logically just for fun |
| 20:56.40 | Clord | for example... time travel is nice sci-fi stuff |
| 20:56.47 | Clord | it works for sci-fi plots etc |
| 20:56.52 | JademusSreg | I have some nice music selected too. Oh well. |
| 20:57.10 | Helral | Clord: you telling me that time-travel isn't possible? |
| 20:57.12 | JademusSreg | Maybe when battlenet isn't so shitty, the dream will be realized. |
| 20:58.08 | Clord | Helral: yeah, you can remove your tinfoil hat now |
| 20:58.09 | Clord | it is safe |
| 20:58.21 | Clord | what you may or may not have XD |
| 20:58.42 | Helral | I don't need a tinfoil hat. |
| 20:58.49 | Helral | nobody can understand my thoughts anyway ;p |
| 20:58.56 | Helral | they're tooo chaotic. |
| 20:59.06 | nodgene | not to sound funny or anything |
| 20:59.21 | Clord | welcome to club... good thing I can turn them to words so they make even remotely sense |
| 20:59.24 | Clord | lol |
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| 20:59.29 | nodgene | but how do you actually make victory actions for multiplayer, whereby someone wins, their team mates (if any) win and the enemies lose? |
| 20:59.42 | nodgene | I've tried this and it's far more complex than it looks |
| 21:00.07 | Clord | our country has democracy but I would rather want some new ruling system what is even better... and not already in use XD |
| 21:00.20 | Dekar- | if player is enemy of triggering player |
| 21:00.24 | Clord | pick every player |
| 21:00.25 | Dekar- | etc |
| 21:00.30 | Clord | then allies/enemies of that player |
| 21:00.34 | Clord | then make them win/lose |
| 21:00.53 | Clord | just remember that when you refer to allies |
| 21:01.03 | Clord | it not pick that player |
| 21:01.03 | Clord | only his allies |
| 21:01.25 | Clord | nothing what one extra line can't fix ;) |
| 21:02.11 | nodgene | I was thinking something along those lines... |
| 21:02.16 | nodgene | tried it but it didn't quite work |
| 21:02.39 | SilverSeraphim | how do i allow lurkers to move while burrowed? |
| 21:03.16 | Kueken | give the burrowed lurker a movespeed |
| 21:03.25 | Kueken | and check movable flag |
| 21:03.27 | SilverSeraphim | oh ok, thanks =] |
| 21:03.33 | Kueken | (or uncheck unmovable) |
| 21:03.34 | nodgene | pick each player in player group? |
| 21:03.52 | Kueken | maybe he needs the move ability as well |
| 21:03.58 | Kueken | if he does not have it |
| 21:05.17 | Clord | obviously |
| 21:05.22 | Clord | :) |
| 21:05.28 | Clord | yeah yeah |
| 21:05.31 | Clord | pick every player |
| 21:05.34 | Clord | to player group |
| 21:05.40 | Clord | I think it is also called each |
| 21:06.10 | nodgene | player group - pick each player in (allies of player (killing player)) and do actions |
| 21:06.40 | SilverSeraphim | Kueken: where is the move flag? |
| 21:06.42 | nodgene | but then in the effect, |
| 21:07.12 | SilverSeraphim | never mind i found it |
| 21:07.13 | nodgene | end game in victory for player1 - how do I make it so that it does it for ze allies or enemies? |
| 21:07.19 | nodgene | do I just leave it as player 1? |
| 21:07.24 | SilverSeraphim | he already has moveable checked oddly enough |
| 21:08.30 | nodgene | is: player group - pick each player in (allies of player (killing player)) and do (actions) |
| 21:08.35 | nodgene | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.48 | Clord | it is just another way to do loop |
| 21:08.50 | nodgene | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:08.52 | Clord | for more specific purposes |
| 21:08.59 | Clord | no |
| 21:09.02 | Clord | convert player index |
| 21:09.05 | Clord | to picked player |
| 21:09.10 | nodgene | ah |
| 21:09.11 | nodgene | right |
| 21:09.12 | nodgene | excellent |
| 21:09.20 | Clord | :) |
| 21:09.24 | nodgene | I get it now |
| 21:09.25 | nodgene | I GET IT |
| 21:09.38 | blub_ | are "beam" attack effects "scaled"? |
| 21:09.46 | blub_ | or do they have some other method of making them as long as they need to be |
| 21:10.01 | blub_ | I mean is it a simple model-scaleing thing? |
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| 21:12.03 | Clord | you can make them shoot very far |
| 21:12.05 | Clord | without problems |
| 21:12.22 | blub_ | well the phoenix graviton beam looks ugly when scaled up :D |
| 21:12.43 | blub_ | needa try other effects anyway |
| 21:12.47 | blub_ | for testing it suffices |
| 21:15.04 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 21:16.54 | Ashamed | 1 hour left until 4:20! |
| 21:18.11 | Nash|327 | 4:20 April 20th D_D |
| 21:21.27 | Dustin|Lappy | BAH |
| 21:21.38 | Dustin|Lappy | I can't fucking smoke on 4/20 cause I got a UA in a couple weeks |
| 21:21.39 | Dustin|Lappy | FML |
| 21:29.23 | nodgene | Here lads |
| 21:29.32 | nodgene | I have an idea for an ability |
| 21:29.36 | nodgene | but I'm unsure how to build it |
| 21:29.59 | nodgene | I want a unit that loses it's shields to convert half its energy reserve into X amount of shields per unit of energy |
| 21:30.08 | nodgene | any tips on how to create sed ability? |
| 21:30.22 | nodgene | that when it loses it's shields* |
| 21:31.23 | nodgene | if I make a new ability |
| 21:31.33 | nodgene | I can put in costs fraction bit 0.5 |
| 21:31.36 | blub_ | omfg this works |
| 21:31.43 | blub_ | making a portal map XD |
| 21:31.45 | nodgene | and make it switched on from the start using that autocast tag |
| 21:31.50 | blub_ | currently working on the beams |
| 21:31.50 | nodgene | nice blub |
| 21:31.54 | blub_ | and getting them through the portals :P |
| 21:31.57 | blub_ | they're created now |
| 21:32.04 | blub_ | beam goes through the portal ^^ |
| 21:32.10 | nodgene | not too shabby! |
| 21:32.13 | blub_ | direction of the portals influencees the direction of the beam too |
| 21:32.22 | nodgene | good start aye |
| 21:32.42 | blub_ | so if the beam enters a portal from "behind", it leaves the other portal through the back |
| 21:32.46 | blub_ | and the other portal can be rotated as well |
| 21:32.57 | Helral | ~seen Demonette |
| 21:33.12 | purl | demonette <5edd78d5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.94.221.120.213> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2d 5h 17m 5s ago, saying: 'kueken spicy =) looks well enough'. |
| 21:33.12 | blub_ | added all the "adding" of portal extensions, (and linking them together) |
| 21:33.12 | blub_ | next step is having them removed properly |
| 21:33.12 | blub_ | xD |
| 21:33.15 | blub_ | already forbidding recursive beams btw |
| 21:33.18 | Helral | ~seen Ka[L]ekin |
| 21:33.18 | purl | ka[l]ekin <~Ka_L_ekin@dsl-240-36-214.telkomadsl.co.za> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 8h 16m 10s ago, saying: '>_>'. |
| 21:33.47 | blub_ | and I do a trace so the beam which goes through a portal, on the other side, becomes as long as it neesd to hit the next wall |
| 21:34.11 | blub_ | need better models tho |
| 21:34.15 | blub_ | for the portals and the beam ^^ |
| 21:37.35 | SilverSeraphim | if i want to have Sentries have the Preserver model, but keep all their same attack/spells/movement/etc, can i just substitute the preserver actor for the sentry actor? or do i swap models? |
| 21:38.27 | Dustin|Lappy | What's the preserver model? |
| 21:38.37 | Dustin|Lappy | If it's got legs to move it wont work |
| 21:38.37 | SilverSeraphim | it's a blue un-armored protoss |
| 21:38.37 | blub_ | http://stud4.tuwien.ac.at/~e0725517/images/portalmap.png the green beacon is used to set the direction of newly created portals |
| 21:38.59 | blub_ | s/This exit/This exit-beam/ in the screenshot ^^^ |
| 21:39.52 | Ashamed | dustin SMOKE |
| 21:40.03 | Ashamed | just go to gmc get a clencer clean yourself out |
| 21:40.05 | Ashamed | you will be good |
| 21:40.11 | blub_ | the "unused" zerg beacon was just placed in the terrain editor for nothing xD |
| 21:40.30 | Dustin|Lappy | Yeah those don't work :( |
| 21:40.50 | Ashamed | yeah they do |
| 21:40.55 | Ashamed | if you have 3 weeks |
| 21:41.01 | Ashamed | i am not talking about a cover up |
| 21:41.06 | Ashamed | i am talking about a detox drink from GMC |
| 21:41.18 | Ashamed | which needs more time |
| 21:41.21 | Ashamed | then a cover up drink |
| 21:41.25 | Ashamed | but it actually detoxes you |
| 21:41.43 | Ashamed | like 60-70 bucks |
| 21:41.43 | Ashamed | and cost alot more |
| 21:41.59 | Ashamed | but they are gaurenteed |
| 21:42.05 | Ashamed | you get your money back if you fail lol |
| 21:42.07 | Ashamed | :) |
| 21:42.50 | nodgene | lads |
| 21:42.52 | nodgene | right |
| 21:43.10 | nodgene | how do I make this ability make one vital give X amount of points per points spend from another vital |
| 21:43.36 | nodgene | say, 50% of energy transformed into 2 shield per energy |
| 21:45.42 | nodgene | that's right lads |
| 21:45.50 | nodgene | I duplicate feedback and try and backwards engineer it |
| 21:45.54 | nodgene | arn't I a special soldier |
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| 21:56.18 | nodgene | no I still need help |
| 21:57.32 | Nash|327 | why not just make it cost X energy and add 2X shields |
| 21:59.33 | nodgene | Well it's for the archon |
| 21:59.41 | nodgene | but in this game everyone has the EMP's ability to ruin shields |
| 21:59.48 | nodgene | and poor little archon needs his shields to live |
| 22:00.00 | nodgene | so I need to craft an ability whereby when his sheidls go down, it takes some of his energy to make more |
| 22:00.12 | nodgene | so he's not KO'd in the face |
| 22:00.23 | Dustin|Lappy | [16:42pm] <Ashamed> you get your money back if you fail lol <-- Oh yaa? Wonder if they cover for jail time... lol |
| 22:00.40 | Dustin|Lappy | Kansas Marijuana laws are the most ridiculous thing ever |
| 22:00.57 | Dustin|Lappy | Max penalty of 1 year in jail and $2500 fine, for ANY ammount |
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| 22:01.52 | nodgene | do you see nash? Do you see the need! |
| 22:02.07 | Nash|327 | remove the counter for things? |
| 22:02.15 | Nash|327 | :P |
| 22:02.22 | nodgene | counter? wah? |
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| 22:03.20 | nodgene | making archons inumerate won't help this! |
| 22:03.29 | Bounty | alright |
| 22:03.30 | Bounty | guys |
| 22:03.33 | Bounty | what sounds better for a map name |
| 22:03.39 | Bounty | Perfect Shot or Precision Zero |
| 22:03.48 | Bounty | its a TPS sniper map |
| 22:03.50 | nodgene | Depends |
| 22:03.56 | Dekar- | perfect zero |
| 22:04.01 | nodgene | SNIPER'S MAD-CUNT EXTRAVAGANZA |
| 22:04.21 | Nash|327 | HEADSHOT |
| 22:04.37 | Bounty | grr |
| 22:04.38 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:05.21 | Bounty | well i know i wanna have the word Perfect in it... |
| 22:05.30 | Dekar- | perfect luck |
| 22:05.35 | Nash|327 | PERFECT HEADSHOT |
| 22:05.37 | Dekar- | "skill"shot |
| 22:05.41 | Dekar- | xD |
| 22:06.15 | Bounty | well it uses a very unique cover system and has stealth to |
| 22:06.15 | Dekar- | spam me for the win shot |
| 22:06.18 | Bounty | so take that into mind |
| 22:06.33 | Dekar- | minaturized nuke |
| 22:06.49 | Dekar- | remote controlled bullet |
| 22:07.08 | Dekar- | phase shifting bullet |
| 22:07.14 | Bounty | Perfect Covert? |
| 22:07.16 | Bounty | Covert Perfect? |
| 22:07.35 | Dekar- | do you want to send the bullet in a letter? |
| 22:07.41 | Dekar- | with the mail |
| 22:07.49 | Bounty | huh? |
| 22:07.56 | Dekar- | in a couvert :S |
| 22:08.01 | Bounty | no lol |
| 22:08.06 | Bounty | i mean covert as in another word for stealthy |
| 22:08.26 | Nash|327 | Perfect Bullet Shooting Guns |
| 22:08.40 | Bounty | alright well we can end this hear, getting nowhere lol |
| 22:08.44 | Bounty | here* |
| 22:09.01 | Dekar- | aw no |
| 22:09.21 | Dekar- | heat seeking driller |
| 22:09.27 | Bounty | the biggest draw of the map imo is not only the cover system but that aiming is not affected by lag in anyway :) |
| 22:09.27 | Dekar- | see, im still full of ideas |
| 22:09.46 | Bounty | thats why i want the word Perfect in it |
| 22:10.05 | Nash|327 | sounds pretentious |
| 22:10.24 | Bounty | nope |
| 22:10.25 | Bounty | Tested |
| 22:10.33 | Bounty | a graphical impact can lag |
| 22:10.40 | Bounty | but if u click/shoot someone |
| 22:10.41 | Bounty | thats it |
| 22:10.44 | Bounty | itll hit |
| 22:10.51 | Nash|327 | still pretentious D_D |
| 22:10.57 | Bounty | how? |
| 22:11.06 | Bounty | if its been tested on bnet with multiple players lol |
| 22:11.07 | Nash|327 | Uh, you want to name the map Perfect |
| 22:11.15 | Bounty | it CANT be affected by lag |
| 22:11.21 | Bounty | like the way the shooting works |
| 22:11.23 | Bounty | its not possible |
| 22:11.40 | Bounty | only thing that can be affected is say i shoot u and its lagging |
| 22:11.51 | Bounty | u might not get hit for like 0.5 seconds |
| 22:11.58 | Bounty | but it will still register |
| 22:11.59 | Bounty | always |
| 22:12.14 | Nash|327 | If I have to explain why calling a map Perfect something is pretentious then never mind D_D |
| 22:12.20 | Bounty | oh |
| 22:12.25 | Bounty | i thought u meant what i said before |
| 22:12.25 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:12.38 | Bounty | nah i only wanna use the word Perfect bc its a sniper map and it works |
| 22:12.43 | Bounty | not bc the map is perfect |
| 22:12.44 | Bounty | bc its not lol |
| 22:13.07 | Bounty | That and the soundtrack is from Perfect Dark/Goldeneye |
| 22:13.14 | Bounty | OO |
| 22:13.17 | Bounty | Perfect Eye? |
| 22:13.18 | Bounty | lol |
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| 22:34.31 | Stewox | lol , i just shoot one over on red a |
| 22:34.38 | Stewox | red alert yuri's revengle |
| 22:34.51 | Stewox | like a 2 hour skirmish ... |
| 22:34.57 | Stewox | ah still happes from time to time |
| 22:40.21 | nodgene | THIS IS ANNOYING ME |
| 22:40.25 | nodgene | RA2 YR amazing |
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| 22:45.45 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 22:46.05 | nodgene | can someone tell me why this may not work |
| 22:46.55 | nodgene | condition: array_playerScores[(killing player)] > (50 * (Number of players in (active players))) |
| 22:47.20 | nodgene | Now I know it counts properly because the "score" trigger tells me when a player kills something |
| 22:47.36 | nodgene | and when the symbol was "<" instread and I suicided and lost points It lost |
| 22:47.39 | Stewox | i don't know what is an array :P |
| 22:47.52 | nodgene | it's a int var with all players scores in |
| 22:48.07 | nodgene | -2 < 50 |
| 22:48.26 | nodgene | but then why didn't it declare me victorious when I was on 0? |
| 22:48.32 | nodgene | That's less than fifty |
| 22:49.07 | Stewox | that second things is always going to be above 50 |
| 22:49.15 | nodgene | well yes |
| 22:49.20 | nodgene | on test it's just 50 |
| 22:49.22 | nodgene | right? |
| 22:49.50 | nodgene | but it counts down properly when the player makes a kill |
| 22:49.52 | Stewox | what specifically are you trying to do |
| 22:49.55 | nodgene | and the score is announced via a message |
| 22:50.06 | nodgene | player wins when their score is greater than |
| 22:50.16 | nodgene | number of active player * 50 |
| 22:50.35 | nodgene | so in a 1v1 it's 100 score to win |
| 22:50.41 | nodgene | and the killing message says |
| 22:50.58 | Stewox | i don't think you need an array for that |
| 22:51.03 | nodgene | "player has earnt X points, X to go" |
| 22:51.34 | nodgene | if I don't have an array how else will I recall the multiple number of players scores? But that's besides the point entirely. |
| 22:51.47 | Stewox | you're wanting to do 2 things at the same time here |
| 22:52.10 | nodgene | the only thing I'm interested in |
| 22:52.14 | nodgene | is why it won't win |
| 22:52.18 | nodgene | the rest of the stuff works |
| 22:52.22 | nodgene | the arrays work |
| 22:52.27 | nodgene | it counts the score down properly |
| 22:52.36 | Stewox | down* |
| 22:52.36 | nodgene | it seems to be aware of what the score ought to be |
| 22:52.37 | Stewox | ? |
| 22:53.10 | Stewox | counts up i think |
| 22:53.11 | nodgene | it just doesn't win when it in theory should |
| 22:53.27 | Stewox | okay okay i get it |
| 22:53.47 | Stewox | screenshot the thing and post |
| 22:54.01 | nodgene | sure |
| 22:55.30 | nodgene | hold on |
| 22:56.05 | nodgene | http://img706.imageshack.us/f/capturewbj.jpg/ |
| 22:56.07 | nodgene | DER |
| 22:56.54 | Stewox | imageshack is werid |
| 22:56.58 | Stewox | can i get a bigger pic |
| 22:57.10 | nodgene | augh |
| 22:57.11 | nodgene | hold on |
| 22:57.15 | Stewox | i clicked it 3 times ist's always the different link but the side is the same |
| 22:57.22 | nodgene | err hold on |
| 23:01.57 | nodgene | uploading stewox |
| 23:02.40 | Stewox | ok |
| 23:03.23 | nodgene | http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/9986/unled1vv.jpg |
| 23:03.25 | nodgene | right |
| 23:03.26 | nodgene | fuck it |
| 23:03.28 | nodgene | not resized |
| 23:03.32 | nodgene | stewox go, |
| 23:03.37 | nodgene | victory and score conditions there |
| 23:04.10 | nodgene | and remember it can count, and displays the score and score bonus (which is the score that's added to the score total, if you get me) |
| 23:04.20 | nodgene | player earns 2 for having killed 2 units in a row |
| 23:04.26 | nodgene | this is the score bonus |
| 23:04.32 | nodgene | which is then added to 10, which is their score |
| 23:04.36 | nodgene | but you'll figure that out in theory |
| 23:06.09 | Stewox | is Killing Player a custom variable ? |
| 23:06.13 | nodgene | No |
| 23:06.14 | nodgene | fnction |
| 23:06.16 | nodgene | function* |
| 23:06.17 | Stewox | ok |
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| 23:06.28 | nodgene | wtf, why is killing player == killing player in score... that makes no sense |
| 23:07.40 | nodgene | removing that bit |
| 23:08.52 | Stewox | where is |
| 23:09.06 | Stewox | array defined |
| 23:10.11 | nodgene | in a global var |
| 23:11.00 | Stewox | ok |
| 23:11.42 | Stewox | go to the condition |
| 23:12.04 | Stewox | you need to select this to true i guees ? |
| 23:12.14 | Stewox | now it's false |
| 23:14.48 | nodgene | what? |
| 23:14.49 | nodgene | WHAT |
| 23:14.52 | nodgene | In victory? |
| 23:14.55 | nodgene | where do I change ths? |
| 23:15.47 | Stewox | wait .. |
| 23:17.40 | Skizot | no |
| 23:17.46 | Stewox | ah not sure... |
| 23:18.28 | nodgene | yeah |
| 23:18.31 | nodgene | I don't get it either :D |
| 23:18.54 | Stewox | no need to confirm as true , that was for else |
| 23:19.36 | Stewox | lol |
| 23:19.41 | Stewox | what is Active Players ? |
| 23:20.02 | Stewox | variable or native func ? |
| 23:20.10 | Stewox | in your case |
| 23:20.42 | nodgene | function |
| 23:21.24 | nodgene | fuck |
| 23:21.26 | nodgene | I tested it |
| 23:21.33 | nodgene | where instead of scorearray |
| 23:21.37 | nodgene | it has score array + 50 |
| 23:21.42 | nodgene | and when i made rthe first kill I won |
| 23:21.43 | nodgene | :| |
| 23:21.48 | nodgene | testing with a friend now |
| 23:21.54 | Stewox | is the "number of players in player group" returning an integer |
| 23:22.03 | nodgene | err |
| 23:22.05 | nodgene | not sure |
| 23:22.21 | Stewox | lool |
| 23:22.28 | Stewox | not integer |
| 23:22.29 | nodgene | this is being a right cunt |
| 23:22.44 | Stewox | go to condition |
| 23:22.45 | nodgene | so if this doesn't work |
| 23:22.47 | nodgene | then try |
| 23:22.51 | nodgene | converting to int? |
| 23:23.02 | Stewox | no |
| 23:23.07 | Stewox | just go to condition |
| 23:23.07 | nodgene | k |
| 23:23.09 | nodgene | go on |
| 23:23.40 | Stewox | and change value 2 |
| 23:23.47 | Stewox | Arthimetic (REAL) |
| 23:24.35 | Stewox | not integer |
| 23:26.06 | nodgene | oh |
| 23:26.12 | nodgene | that may be an issue |
| 23:26.41 | nodgene | OH FUCK |
| 23:26.42 | nodgene | IT WORKED |
| 23:28.47 | nodgene | I may have been chasing a goose |
| 23:28.50 | nodgene | but yes |
| 23:29.36 | Mephs | geese have flat teeth |
| 23:31.03 | Stewox | nodgene |
| 23:31.05 | Stewox | it did ? |
| 23:31.19 | Stewox | wow |
| 23:31.28 | Stewox | good |
| 23:32.11 | nodgene | I think |
| 23:32.17 | nodgene | the problem is the counter is off |
| 23:32.17 | Stewox | Active Players can't be 2.6 or 6.3 |
| 23:32.19 | nodgene | not the score |
| 23:32.25 | Stewox | integer = point |
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| 23:32.50 | Stewox | i used to mix these , i always thought integer was a basic number but ... it's a great difference |
| 23:33.08 | Stewox | it's it's fine now ? |
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| 23:33.33 | soultaker_ | jade |
| 23:33.36 | soultaker_ | wake up fool |
| 23:33.38 | soultaker_ | XD |
| 23:33.40 | soultaker_ | :P |
| 23:33.47 | soultaker_ | i got more questions |
| 23:33.51 | soultaker_ | to poke ur brain with |
| 23:34.20 | soultaker_ | can i call u sensei |
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| 23:38.20 | nodgene | okay |
| 23:38.23 | nodgene | so convert to real from int? |
| 23:38.38 | Stewox | did it worked ? |
| 23:38.58 | nodgene | it did |
| 23:38.59 | nodgene | :) |
| 23:39.04 | nodgene | just need to fix the message I think |
| 23:39.18 | Stewox | it's not converting anything |
| 23:39.37 | Stewox | it's just the correct option for Active Players function |
| 23:40.00 | Stewox | integer would work , but that's just not because Active player's can't be 2.x |
| 23:40.02 | nodgene | ah yes |
| 23:40.03 | Stewox | x,x |
| 23:40.30 | Stewox | that's the galaxy code |
| 23:40.38 | nodgene | :D |
| 23:40.40 | nodgene | thanks for your help |
| 23:40.49 | Stewox | it could automatically warn you .... so much for the stupid compiler/parser |
| 23:41.12 | Stewox | that's so easy to warn , i mean , that's basic stuff and this only outputs "syntax" errors |
| 23:41.28 | Stewox | well im going to bed , quite late |
| 23:41.28 | nodgene | wait wait |
| 23:41.30 | nodgene | here |
| 23:41.31 | nodgene | one mo |
| 23:41.33 | Stewox | what * |
| 23:41.36 | Stewox | lol |
| 23:41.43 | Stewox | im sleepy |
| 23:41.46 | Stewox | :p |
| 23:42.18 | nodgene | value: arithmmetic (int) value 1: arithmeatic integer index: number of player in player group :group: active players: group: all players * 50 |
| 23:42.27 | nodgene | I may have done this wrong |
| 23:44.53 | nodgene | one too many player groups maybe |
| 23:45.06 | nodgene | yeah |
| 23:45.12 | nodgene | think it might be what is confusing it |
| 23:45.14 | nodgene | I had 2 |
| 23:45.15 | nodgene | now one |
| 23:45.45 | Stewox | the easiest way to do is to make a separate ACTIVE PLAYERS variable |
| 23:45.52 | nodgene | possibly |
| 23:45.53 | nodgene | but it works |
| 23:45.56 | Stewox | then make a simple "debug" using another trigger |
| 23:46.00 | nodgene | just that this isn't worrded well |
| 23:46.01 | Stewox | to display it somewhere |
| 23:46.04 | nodgene | good idea though |
| 23:46.05 | nodgene | right |
| 23:46.07 | nodgene | this may work |
| 23:46.15 | Stewox | and you'll see how much the value is (if it is right) |
| 23:46.15 | nodgene | will talk to you later, take care :) thanks for the help |
| 23:46.42 | Stewox | then use the custom Variable to just add into it without calling "player groups" with "number of players in" |
| 23:46.50 | nodgene | I see what you mean aye |
| 23:46.55 | nodgene | if I continue to have problems I'll do that |
| 23:46.58 | nodgene | will test this now |
| 23:47.02 | Stewox | he |
| 23:47.03 | Stewox | hey |
| 23:47.04 | nodgene | if you're going won't talk so soon |
| 23:47.08 | nodgene | ? |
| 23:47.15 | Stewox | going to bed now |
| 23:47.29 | nodgene | sure |
| 23:47.30 | nodgene | sleep well! |
| 23:47.34 | nodgene | again* |
| 23:47.34 | nodgene | thanks agauin |
| 23:47.39 | Stewox | i'll keep it open you can type |
| 23:47.46 | Stewox | i'll see it tomorrow |
| 23:47.51 | nodgene | sure |
| 23:47.54 | Stewox | im on EU gmt |
| 23:47.59 | nodgene | take care :) |
| 23:47.59 | Stewox | 2+ |
| 23:48.02 | Stewox | if that helps :P |
| 23:48.05 | nodgene | cool |
| 23:48.09 | nodgene | EU TOO!!! |
| 23:48.13 | nodgene | You a dutchy? |
| 23:48.15 | nodgene | or swede? |
| 23:48.27 | Stewox | al somewhere a little more down |
| 23:48.43 | nodgene | germany? |
| 23:48.49 | Stewox | figure it out in morning (but i will be afk in morning) |
| 23:48.49 | nodgene | A GERMAN? Love da Germans |
| 23:49.28 | Stewox | crazy german kid :p |
| 23:49.36 | nodgene | YEO |
| 23:49.39 | nodgene | sleep well |
| 23:51.33 | soultaker_ | how do i allow for spectators |
| 23:51.35 | soultaker_ | :/ |
| 23:51.43 | nodgene | good question |
| 23:52.30 | soultaker_ | :/ |
