| 00:03.28 | AlphA_VsT | yay i uploaded it as a new map |
| 00:08.28 | AlphA_VsT | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/multi-story-ramps/ if it ever gets approved :P |
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| 00:37.55 | AlphA_VsT | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/multi-story-ramps/ enjoy lol |
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| 01:19.54 | Bounty | Hai guys |
| 01:20.12 | JademusDead | Hi |
| 01:20.20 | JademusDead | Wanna play some Photon Cycles? |
| 01:20.27 | Bounty | Cant |
| 01:20.30 | Bounty | working on that shooter map |
| 01:20.34 | JademusDead | Turns out people are actually playing it. |
| 01:20.38 | Bounty | i decided fuck it ill just use cliffs :) |
| 01:20.52 | Bounty | and decorate with some doodads but doodads cant be used as cover |
| 01:21.55 | AlphA_VsT | lol bounty |
| 01:21.58 | AlphA_VsT | <3 |
| 01:22.05 | Bounty | <3 |
| 01:22.07 | Bounty | hey man |
| 01:22.09 | Bounty | the way i see it is |
| 01:22.13 | Bounty | ill just compensate with gameplay |
| 01:22.20 | Bounty | i can still make it look pretty |
| 01:22.28 | AlphA_VsT | as long as you dont tread on my map |
| 01:22.35 | AlphA_VsT | i wont fuck with yours :D |
| 01:22.41 | Bounty | tread on ur map? lol |
| 01:23.28 | AlphA_VsT | yes fuck you |
| 01:23.37 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 01:24.11 | AlphA_VsT | mines a defense map and yours is some shooter shit |
| 01:24.18 | AlphA_VsT | mines 100% cooler though |
| 01:24.22 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:24.29 | Bounty | if u say so :) |
| 01:24.46 | AlphA_VsT | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/multi-story-ramps/ enjoy |
| 01:24.55 | AlphA_VsT | just in case you know |
| 01:25.42 | Bounty | i dont need those but thanks :) |
| 01:25.57 | Bounty | i need more cliff levels lol |
| 01:26.11 | AlphA_VsT | i know right |
| 01:26.30 | AlphA_VsT | bounty you add los blocking to doodads also |
| 01:26.42 | Bounty | i alrdy explained why that doesnt work |
| 01:26.48 | Bounty | LoS blocks sight using fog of war |
| 01:26.48 | AlphA_VsT | why? |
| 01:26.59 | AlphA_VsT | yes |
| 01:27.06 | Bounty | i need to make it so u literally cannot click on someone if they are behind something |
| 01:27.14 | Bounty | but since the map is 100% revealed |
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| 01:27.20 | Bounty | i cant use fog of war techniques |
| 01:27.33 | AlphA_VsT | haha same issue :D |
| 01:27.45 | Bounty | well if i find a way |
| 01:27.48 | AlphA_VsT | im trying to fake it though some how |
| 01:27.48 | Bounty | ill be sure to let u know |
| 01:27.55 | Bounty | i mean |
| 01:27.56 | Bounty | i know HOW |
| 01:27.59 | Bounty | atleast i know one way |
| 01:28.03 | Bounty | but i dont want to do it lol |
| 01:28.48 | AlphA_VsT | i can think of a few overly complicated ways to do it 0.o |
| 01:29.06 | AlphA_VsT | like setting up regions and shit 0.o |
| 01:29.10 | Bounty | yeah |
| 01:29.12 | Bounty | or using units |
| 01:29.18 | Bounty | to block the units behind it |
| 01:29.39 | Bounty | but im not sure how accurate taht would be |
| 01:29.43 | AlphA_VsT | doesnt work well with trees |
| 01:29.49 | AlphA_VsT | fyi i tried that one |
| 01:30.04 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 01:30.11 | Bounty | and? |
| 01:30.18 | Bounty | i assume it worked but it wasnt 100% accurate |
| 01:30.26 | AlphA_VsT | doesnt work well :( |
| 01:31.17 | Bounty | alright well |
| 01:31.19 | Bounty | can u help me with this terrain |
| 01:31.20 | Bounty | like |
| 01:31.22 | Bounty | the layout |
| 01:31.25 | Bounty | i wanan know what u think |
| 01:31.32 | Bounty | its a snipers map btw |
| 01:31.43 | Bounty | just in third person :) |
| 01:32.13 | Bounty | http://i55.tinypic.com/dc54qv.jpg |
| 01:32.49 | Bounty | thats the layout im leaning towards |
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| 01:34.13 | AlphA_VsT | its um a good start :D |
| 01:34.21 | Bounty | no its not a start |
| 01:34.23 | Bounty | thats the layout |
| 01:34.28 | Bounty | not the entire map but thats what the pathing will be |
| 01:34.36 | Bounty | the layout >< |
| 01:34.39 | AlphA_VsT | its a good start :D |
| 01:34.44 | Bounty | well whats wrong with it |
| 01:36.03 | AlphA_VsT | should be more symmetrical like |
| 01:36.15 | Bounty | ? |
| 01:36.17 | Bounty | its FFA |
| 01:36.33 | AlphA_VsT | so unfair advantages fuck |
| 01:36.40 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 01:37.39 | AlphA_VsT | maybe it just needs more stuff and not so plain like |
| 01:37.46 | Bounty | yeah |
| 01:37.50 | Bounty | i know that |
| 01:37.58 | Bounty | thats why i asked how is it as a layout >< |
| 01:42.37 | AlphA_VsT | i think it sucks as a plain layout :D |
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| 01:46.05 | Bounty | do you even know what i mean when i say layout? |
| 01:46.26 | Bounty | there is no such thing as a not plain layout |
| 01:46.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:46.33 | Bounty | thats why its a layout |
| 01:48.33 | Tobin- | Does anyone know why when i make a new map the terrain is black and white? I've tried changing the lighting but it doesnt work. Also if i open an old map, everything works fine. |
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| 01:56.48 | Tobin- | No one? |
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| 02:02.05 | Tobin- | Appreciate the reply. |
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| 02:05.07 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 02:05.18 | AlphA_VsT | poor tobin guy |
| 02:05.24 | Deaod | another angry sucker. |
| 02:05.25 | AlphA_VsT | couldnt wait |
| 02:05.56 | AlphA_VsT | but yeah bounty i know I just think it sucks needs more symmetry lol |
| 02:06.13 | AlphA_VsT | im sure its fine though dont listen to me |
| 02:11.21 | AlphA_VsT | i suck at ui shit |
| 02:11.38 | AlphA_VsT | QQ |
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| 02:26.54 | Bounty | god |
| 02:26.59 | Bounty | i am such a genius sometimes |
| 02:27.18 | Bounty | layout is lookin mighty fine already Alpha :) |
| 02:32.00 | AlphA_VsT | yeah? |
| 02:32.04 | AlphA_VsT | did you cahnge it? |
| 02:32.07 | Bounty | no |
| 02:32.12 | Bounty | i just made it look pretty :) |
| 02:38.10 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 02:45.44 | TMA_Dryeyece | join#sc2replayed |
| 02:45.48 | TMA_Dryeyece | well that didnt work |
| 02:51.41 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 02:52.00 | AlphA_VsT | isnt that /join |
| 02:54.37 | TMA_Dryeyece | I dont know |
| 02:55.23 | TMA_Dryeyece | well if you put the / before it it doesnt show up in the chat when you hit enter but I didnt join the other channel either lol |
| 02:55.51 | AlphA_VsT | your irc sucks |
| 02:56.00 | AlphA_VsT | well client |
| 02:56.21 | AlphA_VsT | also need a space |
| 02:58.11 | AlphA_VsT | I need a good name for my map |
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| 03:00.40 | TMA_Dryeyece | lol |
| 03:00.47 | TMA_Dryeyece | What kind of map is it |
| 03:01.39 | AlphA_VsT | a rpg defense game |
| 03:02.20 | TMA_Dryeyece | like a hero seige of sorts? |
| 03:02.30 | TMA_Dryeyece | or do you control armires? |
| 03:02.35 | TMA_Dryeyece | armies* |
| 03:02.41 | Bounty | So |
| 03:02.46 | Bounty | whats a good way to detect headshots :) |
| 03:03.08 | TMA_Dryeyece | pfft |
| 03:03.50 | Sixen | Dreyece, just... /join #sc2replayed, should make you join :P |
| 03:04.03 | AlphA_VsT | yeah |
| 03:04.35 | TMA_Dryeyece | well you would have to ensure that all the units in the game you use have the attachment point Head |
| 03:04.44 | Bounty | got that |
| 03:04.45 | Bounty | >< |
| 03:04.51 | TMA_Dryeyece | and not all of them do |
| 03:04.55 | AlphA_VsT | not really TMA_Dryeyece you defend a town pretty much and during the day you have things you can do |
| 03:04.59 | TMA_Dryeyece | in fact I am pretty sure most dont |
| 03:05.23 | TMA_Dryeyece | With armies or a hero or both Alpha? |
| 03:05.23 | Bounty | fuck it then |
| 03:05.25 | Bounty | its not important :) |
| 03:05.49 | TMA_Dryeyece | Bounty, give weapons a % to crit |
| 03:05.53 | TMA_Dryeyece | like say 10% |
| 03:05.59 | TMA_Dryeyece | bam you got your headshots |
| 03:06.08 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 03:06.09 | Bounty | i dont have any weapons |
| 03:06.12 | Bounty | not the kind ur thinking of |
| 03:06.21 | TMA_Dryeyece | ohh well |
| 03:06.21 | Bounty | im just gonna make it do bonus damage if ur fully zoomed in :) |
| 03:06.31 | AlphA_VsT | cheater |
| 03:06.35 | TMA_Dryeyece | give your damage a chance to crit, I know of a few ways to do it |
| 03:06.46 | TMA_Dryeyece | ohh yeah thats cool |
| 03:06.48 | Bounty | nah i dont want to add in random variables |
| 03:06.54 | Bounty | the whole zoom thing should work |
| 03:07.00 | Bounty | only problem is |
| 03:07.03 | TMA_Dryeyece | ohh thats right you dont like the DE |
| 03:07.14 | Bounty | the condition to check a cameras properties doesnt seem to work |
| 03:07.24 | Bounty | i only use data for animations and sounds :) |
| 03:07.27 | Bounty | thats its only purpose imo |
| 03:07.28 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:07.33 | TMA_Dryeyece | or the cameras properties arent changing the way you want? |
| 03:07.52 | Bounty | well i use apply camera property |
| 03:08.01 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:29.34 | baagel | what do the "template" and "not yet implemented" options do to a trigger? |
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| 03:41.54 | AlphA_VsT | nyi is a flag and does nothing |
| 03:42.00 | AlphA_VsT | its for your referance |
| 03:42.10 | AlphA_VsT | template makes a template 0.o |
| 03:51.57 | Bounty | looks like Portal 2 is releasing in a few minutes |
| 03:51.58 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:55.18 | AlphA_VsT | yeah? |
| 03:55.21 | AlphA_VsT | buy it for me |
| 03:55.24 | AlphA_VsT | kk thx |
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| 03:55.30 | Bounty | i doubt im even buying it |
| 03:55.33 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:55.38 | AlphA_VsT | :( |
| 03:55.40 | TMA_Dryeyece | fuck that I am |
| 03:55.47 | AlphA_VsT | buy it for me also then :D |
| 03:55.49 | TMA_Dryeyece | as soon as I get enough money lol |
| 03:55.53 | AlphA_VsT | FUCK |
| 03:56.32 | TMA_Dryeyece | if you have the dough and you dont buy portal 2 you have mental issues |
| 03:56.44 | TMA_Dryeyece | anyone who played portal knows it was one of the coolest games ever |
| 03:56.47 | Bounty | Why? i didnt like the first one |
| 03:56.53 | Bounty | I dont like puzzle games lol |
| 03:57.02 | baagel | ^ |
| 03:57.46 | TMA_Dryeyece | yeah but portal was so much more |
| 03:57.52 | TMA_Dryeyece | I laughe3d the entire time |
| 03:58.13 | Bounty | If i want comedy ill watch some funny movies or TV shows and save 60 bucks |
| 03:58.15 | Bounty | >< |
| 03:58.55 | TMA_Dryeyece | well to each his own I guess |
| 03:59.19 | Bounty | exactly |
| 04:03.07 | Bounty | ill prolly buy it 2night |
| 04:03.11 | Bounty | just because im a whore |
| 04:03.20 | Bounty | i buy games all the time that i never play |
| 04:03.22 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:03.25 | TMA_Dryeyece | lol |
| 04:03.32 | TMA_Dryeyece | send me some of that money then lol |
| 04:03.38 | Bounty | psh |
| 04:03.41 | TMA_Dryeyece | because clearly you dont need it =p |
| 04:03.47 | AlphA_VsT | fuck im confused |
| 04:03.55 | Bounty | >< |
| 04:04.03 | Bounty | thats the sad part |
| 04:04.05 | Bounty | i DO need it |
| 04:04.10 | Bounty | im just no responsible |
| 04:04.16 | Bounty | well, i mean im not poor |
| 04:04.22 | Bounty | but i really dont need to spend like i do lol |
| 04:04.32 | TMA_Dryeyece | lol |
| 04:04.36 | Bounty | i would be a millionaire by now |
| 04:04.37 | AlphA_VsT | wtf |
| 04:04.38 | Bounty | if it wasnt for steam |
| 04:04.44 | AlphA_VsT | im so confused |
| 04:04.47 | Bounty | all those damn sales |
| 04:04.57 | AlphA_VsT | thats how they get you |
| 04:05.04 | AlphA_VsT | but they have the best sales |
| 04:05.10 | Bounty | yeah |
| 04:05.12 | TMA_Dryeyece | yeah I used to have money and a good enough connection to be a steam junkie too |
| 04:05.16 | Bounty | like i usually dont fall for the sale thing |
| 04:05.18 | Bounty | but with steam |
| 04:05.19 | Bounty | its like |
| 04:05.23 | Bounty | THIS GAME WAS 100 bucks |
| 04:05.26 | TMA_Dryeyece | 5 bucks |
| 04:05.26 | Bounty | NOW ITS 2 DOLLARS |
| 04:05.37 | Bounty | like how can u not buy it |
| 04:05.46 | TMA_Dryeyece | yeah I got tomb raider 2 or somehting like that beause of the sale and that game sucked ballz |
| 04:05.51 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:06.01 | AlphA_VsT | haha |
| 04:06.03 | AlphA_VsT | no shit |
| 04:06.04 | TMA_Dryeyece | but torchlight was one that was sooooooooooooooooo worth it |
| 04:06.05 | AlphA_VsT | hahahaha |
| 04:06.09 | TMA_Dryeyece | torchlight was just plain old fun |
| 04:06.10 | AlphA_VsT | I have to turn off a flag |
| 04:06.12 | AlphA_VsT | HAHAHA |
| 04:06.13 | AlphA_VsT | omg |
| 04:06.17 | Bounty | yeah, i got torchlight for about 5 bucks |
| 04:06.25 | Bounty | during the xmas sales |
| 04:06.34 | TMA_Dryeyece | tell you what I got a hell of a lot more than 5 bucks out of it lol |
| 04:06.38 | AlphA_VsT | that was an amazing sale |
| 04:06.53 | Bounty | i wasnt a steam junkie back then |
| 04:06.56 | Bounty | i wish i was |
| 04:07.03 | Bounty | bc now im waiting for Dawn of War 2 to go on sale |
| 04:07.05 | Bounty | i want it so bad >< |
| 04:07.06 | AlphA_VsT | im not cause im broke |
| 04:07.33 | AlphA_VsT | i got like 5 games on steam |
| 04:07.34 | Bounty | Unemployment checks are a beautiful thing |
| 04:07.36 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:07.46 | AlphA_VsT | i dont get that any more |
| 04:07.46 | JademusDead | Dawn of War 2 is pretty nice. |
| 04:07.47 | AlphA_VsT | :( |
| 04:08.00 | Bounty | how did you run out of unemployment? |
| 04:08.06 | Bounty | you get like 13 years of unemployment these days |
| 04:08.33 | AlphA_VsT | lol well i never had a chance to redo it and it ended 0.o |
| 04:08.38 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:08.42 | AlphA_VsT | never got to renew it |
| 04:08.48 | AlphA_VsT | and never looked back into it |
| 04:08.55 | Bounty | i remember the first time i got my unemployment check |
| 04:08.57 | Bounty | i was so pissed |
| 04:09.04 | Bounty | bc its like, no less then what i made when i was working |
| 04:09.09 | AlphA_VsT | my old boss went out of business |
| 04:09.18 | AlphA_VsT | also |
| 04:09.23 | Bounty | i got canned |
| 04:09.24 | Bounty | >< |
| 04:09.27 | AlphA_VsT | so i wouldnt know what to do |
| 04:09.40 | AlphA_VsT | i did to then he shortly went out of business :D |
| 04:09.51 | Bounty | well my employer is still in business |
| 04:09.53 | Bounty | it was just me |
| 04:09.55 | Bounty | lolol |
| 04:09.59 | AlphA_VsT | cause i was in teh process of changing the filing system |
| 04:10.20 | AlphA_VsT | and well im sure he was to stupid to figure out how to fix it :D |
| 04:10.27 | Bounty | >< |
| 04:10.55 | JademusDead | I am elated. |
| 04:10.59 | AlphA_VsT | well a lot of the files where on a networked computer that i replaced |
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| 04:11.20 | AlphA_VsT | and im sure he was dumb not to know that |
| 04:11.21 | JademusDead | =D |
| 04:11.26 | Bounty | well |
| 04:11.32 | Bounty | all i know is |
| 04:11.42 | Bounty | i hope me losing my job was a meant to be thing lol |
| 04:11.45 | Bounty | like i find a better one |
| 04:11.48 | Bounty | which shouldnt be hard |
| 04:12.01 | AlphA_VsT | yeah ive been trying 0.o |
| 04:13.05 | AlphA_VsT | anyways i have to fucking set a falg |
| 04:13.10 | AlphA_VsT | flag for each unit weee |
| 04:13.20 | AlphA_VsT | or remove it |
| 04:14.37 | Bounty | btw |
| 04:14.41 | Bounty | Dungeon Siege 3 |
| 04:14.44 | Bounty | will be the biggest fail |
| 04:14.48 | Bounty | in the history of gaming |
| 04:14.56 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 04:15.03 | Bounty | i was so pumped |
| 04:15.06 | AlphA_VsT | never played any of them |
| 04:15.08 | Bounty | until i read what they are doing with multiplayer |
| 04:15.10 | Bounty | such fail |
| 04:15.17 | AlphA_VsT | what are they doing? |
| 04:15.25 | Bounty | only 2 player co op |
| 04:15.29 | Bounty | and when someone joins u |
| 04:15.33 | Bounty | they dont progress |
| 04:15.40 | Bounty | and im pretty sure they cant even use their own character |
| 04:15.45 | Bounty | so its like deathspank |
| 04:15.46 | Bounty | which was fail |
| 04:17.03 | AlphA_VsT | why would you even |
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| 04:23.22 | AlphA_VsT | that sounds like fail |
| 04:23.41 | AlphA_VsT | but yeah fuck me i have to remove flags on actors :D |
| 04:23.48 | AlphA_VsT | i was like why isnt this working hahahaha |
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| 04:38.59 | AlphA_VsT | random ai question |
| 04:39.06 | AlphA_VsT | i tell a roach to burrow |
| 04:39.13 | AlphA_VsT | but it unburrows right after |
| 04:39.19 | AlphA_VsT | its idle 0.o |
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| 04:44.44 | koalabear | hi |
| 04:45.10 | koalabear | how can you take in text input from a player? |
| 04:45.19 | Nash|327 | hey |
| 04:45.25 | Nash|327 | there's an event |
| 04:45.27 | koalabear | I want to give the player a bunch of options |
| 04:45.31 | koalabear | yea chat message |
| 04:45.38 | koalabear | but in the trigger |
| 04:45.42 | koalabear | I want to wait for the player |
| 04:45.44 | Nash|327 | ...yes? |
| 04:45.46 | koalabear | to put in more input |
| 04:45.51 | koalabear | and then check against that |
| 04:45.58 | koalabear | so, is there a way to take text input? |
| 04:46.07 | AlphA_VsT | yes |
| 04:46.12 | koalabear | how do you do it? |
| 04:46.17 | Nash|327 | you mean do different things based on text? |
| 04:46.21 | koalabear | yea |
| 04:46.24 | AlphA_VsT | search the chat string |
| 04:46.40 | koalabear | so I can do something like this: |
| 04:46.49 | koalabear | event chat message = something |
| 04:46.54 | koalabear | output some options |
| 04:47.01 | koalabear | get another chat string? |
| 04:47.07 | Nash|327 | I read on the forums you can't compare text |
| 04:47.10 | koalabear | that's what I tried |
| 04:47.19 | koalabear | that's fine |
| 04:47.21 | koalabear | I can convert |
| 04:47.28 | koalabear | I just don't know how to take more than one input |
| 04:47.31 | koalabear | in the same trigger |
| 04:47.35 | AlphA_VsT | its not |
| 04:50.46 | Nash|327 | I suspect you can't |
| 04:51.17 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.22 | AlphA_VsT | ops |
| 04:51.28 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.48 | AlphA_VsT | or here |
| 04:52.50 | AlphA_VsT | Untitled Trigger 001 |
| 04:52.50 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.50 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.50 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.50 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.51 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.53 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.55 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.57 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.59 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:53.01 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:53.03 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:53.05 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:53.07 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:54.14 | AlphA_VsT | that will save the string and then you can compare it 0.o |
| 04:54.33 | Nash|327 | so you can compare strings but not text |
| 04:54.36 | Nash|327 | interesting |
| 04:54.42 | AlphA_VsT | you cant comapre strings to text |
| 04:54.50 | AlphA_VsT | or something like that |
| 04:55.55 | AlphA_VsT | its only to stop you from gettting the players name and comaping it 0.o |
| 04:55.59 | AlphA_VsT | such bullshit |
| 04:56.06 | AlphA_VsT | comparing |
| 04:56.15 | Nash|327 | you can get words from strings too |
| 04:56.21 | Nash|327 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/string-equal/ |
| 04:56.21 | AlphA_VsT | yes you can |
| 04:56.27 | Nash|327 | was looking at that :G |
| 04:56.52 | Nash|327 | pretty much does that stuff but in code |
| 04:57.23 | AlphA_VsT | some people just make me fucking rage |
| 05:00.00 | Nash|327 | it's dentist time |
| 05:00.02 | Nash|327 | :/ |
| 05:00.30 | AlphA_VsT | dentist at 10pm? |
| 05:00.31 | AlphA_VsT | crazy |
| 05:01.54 | AlphA_VsT | so i tell a roach to burrow and it auto unburrows its idle also? what makes it do it |
| 05:11.13 | Nash|327 | it's 7:00 |
| 05:11.15 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 05:15.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442d304d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.48.77) |
| 05:15.12 | Bounty | Alright, how can i get a players screen to show an image |
| 05:15.15 | Bounty | without using a dialog |
| 05:15.24 | Bounty | overlay image works but it displays for EVERYONE |
| 05:15.24 | AlphA_VsT | screen image |
| 05:15.43 | AlphA_VsT | so i tell a roach to burrow and it auto unburrows its idle also? what makes it do it |
| 05:15.44 | Bounty | screen image wont let me specify a player |
| 05:16.35 | Nash|327 | "unburrows its idle" wtf |
| 05:17.01 | Bounty | wtf i know this i sfucking possible |
| 05:17.03 | Bounty | did they take it out? |
| 05:17.10 | Bounty | why the fuck cant u fade/in out for a specific player |
| 05:17.21 | Bounty | RAGE! |
| 05:21.28 | AlphA_VsT | you cant |
| 05:21.30 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 05:21.35 | AlphA_VsT | i thought you could |
| 05:21.42 | Bounty | so did i |
| 05:21.43 | AlphA_VsT | its in actor events 0.o |
| 05:21.46 | Bounty | but its not there |
| 05:21.46 | Bounty | at all |
| 05:21.52 | AlphA_VsT | for sure |
| 05:22.55 | AlphA_VsT | so i tell a roach to burrow and it auto unburrows its idle also? what makes it do it |
| 05:22.56 | AlphA_VsT | :( |
| 05:23.57 | Bounty | no idea |
| 05:24.01 | Bounty | thats not my area |
| 05:24.02 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:25.00 | JademusDead | Fun fact: Unburrow is autocastable, but that feature rarely gets used in melee to my knowledge. |
| 05:25.00 | AlphA_VsT | me either |
| 05:25.14 | AlphA_VsT | on a roach? |
| 05:25.21 | TMA_Dryeyece | I always used it cuz my macro sucks ballz |
| 05:25.23 | AlphA_VsT | by default? |
| 05:25.33 | TMA_Dryeyece | and ig I didnt use it half my army would be burrowed and the other half wouldnt |
| 05:25.38 | JademusDead | It isn't on by default. |
| 05:25.47 | TMA_Dryeyece | yeah you gotta right click it |
| 05:25.55 | JademusDead | But Unburrow for combat units is autocastable. |
| 05:26.22 | JademusDead | Zergling, Baneling, Roach, Queen, Hydralisk, Ultralisk |
| 05:26.30 | JademusDead | iirc |
| 05:26.44 | JademusDead | And infested terrans, the campaign ones anyway. |
| 05:26.49 | JademusDead | But not the Aberration. |
| 05:26.58 | JademusDead | And not the Omegalisk. |
| 05:27.13 | Bounty | Hey JadmuesDead |
| 05:27.17 | Bounty | simple question |
| 05:27.18 | JademusDead | ? |
| 05:27.20 | Bounty | Cloak or No Cloak? |
| 05:27.25 | Bounty | in that snipe map |
| 05:27.34 | Bounty | not 100% invisible |
| 05:27.40 | Bounty | but just alittle less visible |
| 05:27.43 | JademusDead | I like it. |
| 05:27.44 | koalabear | hey alpha |
| 05:27.45 | koalabear | thanks |
| 05:27.52 | TMA_Dryeyece | gnite every1 |
| 05:27.55 | koalabear | doing it in 2 parts |
| 05:27.57 | koalabear | will work |
| 05:30.47 | Bounty | sweet |
| 05:30.49 | Bounty | it works |
| 05:30.58 | Bounty | if you use Opacity as a cloak mechanic |
| 05:31.02 | Bounty | players cant turn down their settings |
| 05:31.05 | Bounty | to avoid it |
| 05:31.05 | Bounty | =P |
| 05:31.09 | AlphA_VsT | 2 parts how? |
| 05:32.36 | AlphA_VsT | oh nm your saying about what i said :D |
| 05:43.16 | koalabear | yep :) |
| 05:43.44 | koalabear | where's the place to change the default # of interceptors on a carrier? |
| 05:43.53 | koalabear | the arm interceptor req has the max |
| 05:44.09 | koalabear | but I don't see the default in the ability anywhere |
| 05:44.12 | koalabear | hangar ability |
| 05:45.28 | AlphA_VsT | no idae |
| 05:45.39 | koalabear | :( |
| 05:46.03 | superdoug | hanger? |
| 05:47.18 | JademusDead | Haha |
| 05:47.21 | JademusDead | Nice. |
| 05:48.36 | koalabear | ok found it |
| 05:48.45 | koalabear | in the hangar arm magazine |
| 05:48.51 | koalabear | the count (start) |
| 05:48.53 | koalabear | is the dfault |
| 05:52.21 | Bounty | JademusDead |
| 05:52.23 | Bounty | down for a test? :) |
| 05:53.03 | JademusDead | Hm. |
| 05:53.08 | JademusDead | Naw, it's late. |
| 05:53.15 | JademusDead | Definitely tomorrow though. |
| 05:53.16 | Bounty | gay |
| 05:53.31 | JademusDead | I'll be busy working on the updates for Photon Cycle. |
| 05:53.36 | JademusDead | Probably for a few days. |
| 05:53.37 | Bounty | If it helps |
| 05:53.41 | Bounty | its for the shooter map |
| 05:53.44 | Bounty | =P |
| 05:53.45 | JademusDead | But I can spare some time for ya to test. |
| 05:53.54 | JademusDead | I know. |
| 05:53.56 | JademusDead | But it's late and I'm tired. |
| 05:57.33 | AlphA_VsT | you can test my map and i can test your map bounty but tomorrow haha |
| 06:01.17 | AlphA_VsT | <3 |
| 06:01.38 | superdoug | i can test |
| 06:01.45 | AlphA_VsT | http://i.imgur.com/3itAx.jpg still working on my terrian 0.o |
| 06:04.26 | AlphA_VsT | oh well fine dont say anything |
| 06:04.29 | AlphA_VsT | bed time |
| 06:05.38 | AlphA_VsT | get input in the morning QQ |
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| 06:27.12 | Mephs | raise your hand if you're a gonorrhea farm |
| 06:28.27 | Bounty | man |
| 06:28.30 | Bounty | all i can say atm is |
| 06:28.37 | Bounty | i didnt think my snipe map would be scary >< |
| 06:28.42 | Bounty | but it is |
| 06:28.52 | Bounty | i think i made the impact of one shot kills to loud lol |
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| 06:39.14 | Nash|327 | I'm broke. |
| 06:45.48 | Mephs | i kind of want to go on with this tactical turn-based game idea i have |
| 06:46.05 | Mephs | not using the tile based movement like most of the other project workplace shit proposed |
| 06:46.09 | Mephs | but a more free-movement system |
| 06:58.35 | Nash|327 | I need to get a job, fuck. |
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| 07:04.57 | Mexa | wuhuuu, portal 2 now:D |
| 07:08.53 | Mexa | hmm.. hi |
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| 07:15.48 | Nash|327 | :/ |
| 07:17.50 | Mexa | nashface! |
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| 07:18.54 | nodgene | any way to reduce the text size of a "message" instead of a "text tag"? |
| 07:19.15 | Mexa | text are formatted text |
| 07:19.32 | Mexa | So there are probably some syntax which would set another size |
| 07:19.40 | Mexa | I'm not sure how that works though |
| 07:19.50 | nodgene | well, up and down then. |
| 07:31.53 | Nash|327 | I feel bad now |
| 07:32.01 | Nash|327 | I'm broke and I have to get a job soon D_D |
| 07:33.44 | superdoug | did u apply at blizzard? |
| 07:33.58 | Nash|327 | why would I want to work at Blizzard :/ |
| 07:34.17 | superdoug | it seems they need ppl to work in galaxy editor |
| 07:36.00 | Helral|Work | lol |
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| 07:37.18 | superdoug | in legacy of the void therell be more |
| 07:39.01 | Nash|327 | anyone want to help me with a last test of Fringe before I release it into the wild? |
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| 07:40.28 | superdoug | for what region? |
| 07:40.37 | Nash|327 | EU |
| 07:40.42 | Helral|Work | want, yes. able, no ;p |
| 07:40.48 | superdoug | same |
| 07:40.54 | superdoug | im in us |
| 07:40.58 | Helral|Work | I'm at work ;p |
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| 07:47.54 | Nash|327 | fuckit then |
| 07:47.57 | Nash|327 | RELEASE TIME |
| 07:50.00 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 08:01.07 | Nash|327 | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/20851-fringe-3-0/ |
| 08:01.44 | Nash|327 | gonna hit bnet and see if anyone's playing |
| 08:02.42 | Helral|Work | ** Bnet takes 0 damage from Nash|327 attack ** |
| 08:03.50 | Nash|327 | hmm |
| 08:03.58 | Nash|327 | temporary problem with your request |
| 08:04.01 | Helral|Work | meow? |
| 08:04.23 | Nash|327 | does it take awhile for map to properly update on Bnet? :G |
| 08:04.41 | Helral|Work | shouldn't take longer then the time you need to login. |
| 08:04.59 | Helral|Work | could ofcourse be that the one you selected wasn't updated yet. |
| 08:05.06 | Helral|Work | the maplink ;p |
| 08:05.51 | Nash|327 | well I published the map |
| 08:05.59 | Nash|327 | then posted changelog |
| 08:06.04 | Nash|327 | then went to play it |
| 08:06.43 | Nash|327 | oh well, I'll just try later |
| 08:06.52 | Helral|afk | Fringe v3.0? |
| 08:06.59 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 08:07.01 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 08:07.28 | Nash|327 | at least it's early, not that many on |
| 08:07.56 | Nash|327 | just hope it works when people start playing D_D |
| 08:08.14 | Helral|afk | I could enter the lobby of the map ;p |
| 08:08.21 | Nash|327 | hmm |
| 08:08.44 | Helral|Work | it's just laggy as hell with remote connection ;p |
| 08:09.20 | Nash|327 | I get "a problem occured while loading map" D_D |
| 08:09.29 | Helral|Work | hmmmm |
| 08:09.38 | Helral|Work | log on again I'll try to invite into the game lobby I'm in ;p |
| 08:20.36 | Helral|Work | Nash: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/9254-trouble-with-game-variants/#p3 |
| 08:20.47 | Helral|Work | maybe that thread has a fix for your situation ;p |
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| 08:22.15 | Nash|327 | it's so old D_D |
| 08:22.27 | Nash|327 | also, game variant works |
| 08:22.31 | Nash|327 | when you create game |
| 08:23.56 | Nash|327 | I'm just going to wait a while |
| 08:28.10 | Nash|327 | I love issues that crop up after you publish D_D |
| 08:28.34 | Nash|327 | stuff you can't possibly predict or prevent |
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| 08:31.05 | blub_ | mornin |
| 08:31.27 | blub_ | where can I find a complete list of api functions + signature (return type + parameters)? |
| 08:32.48 | blub_ | omg I just saw a "TriggerExecute" function in an sc2.galaxy file in an SC2Data file :O |
| 08:32.53 | blub_ | why did nobody tell me about that function :P |
| 08:32.55 | blub_ | pfft :D |
| 08:34.12 | Helral|Work | blub_: run Trigger action in the trigger GUI ;p |
| 08:34.37 | blub_ | I never cared fro taht in the GUI because the GUI has no TriggerCreate and TriggerDestroy |
| 08:34.40 | blub_ | :P |
| 08:34.46 | blub_ | or does it? |
| 08:34.55 | Helral|Work | nope don't think so. |
| 08:35.16 | Helral|Work | maybe it does have destroy |
| 08:35.34 | blub_ | anyway, need the list of functions :D |
| 08:35.45 | blub_ | ah I think I found it |
| 08:35.47 | Helral|afk | it's in a paste somewhere. |
| 08:35.47 | blub_ | checks |
| 08:36.57 | blub_ | found it in Base.SC2Data |
| 08:39.01 | Helral|Work | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/3392/ (latest changes in 1.3) http://paste.sc2mapster.com/1985/ (native list paste) |
| 08:40.36 | Helral|Work | http://paste.sc2mapster.com/1979/ (older list then 1985, but with more info.) |
| 08:44.24 | blub_ | ty |
| 08:44.28 | blub_ | but already got the files ^^ |
| 08:44.42 | blub_ | gonna try using ctags on it so I get syntax hilighting and completion with vim >:P |
| 08:48.48 | Helral|Work | Sixen you awake? |
| 08:48.54 | Helral|Work | slaps Sixen around a bit with a large trout |
| 08:49.00 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 08:50.55 | Helral|Work | guess he ain't here ;p |
| 08:59.05 | Nash|327 | helral |
| 08:59.09 | Nash|327 | I figured it out |
| 08:59.17 | Nash|327 | when you upload new version |
| 08:59.27 | Nash|327 | the old version stays in popularity list |
| 08:59.36 | Nash|327 | with existing popularity |
| 08:59.44 | Nash|327 | and the new version is a separate entry |
| 08:59.55 | Nash|327 | and since the old version no longer exists... |
| 08:59.57 | Nash|327 | yeah |
| 09:00.17 | Nash|327 | you can join the map if you go to page 20 something :G |
| 09:00.54 | Nash|327 | gonna idle the map for a while so it climbs the list |
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| 09:02.29 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 09:03.20 | Nash|327 | hard to beat 20 hours with 1 guy idling though |
| 09:03.37 | Nash|327 | at least the old version will go down since nobody can play it |
| 09:03.45 | Helral|afk | :) |
| 09:03.50 | Nash|327 | but my popularity will be fucked |
| 09:03.59 | Helral|afk | btw anyone here have experience with fake selection circles? |
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| 09:05.57 | syltman | JademusDead hey! |
| 09:08.12 | Nash|327 | ARGH NOTICED A TYPO |
| 09:08.16 | Nash|327 | and I already published |
| 09:08.26 | Nash|327 | not publishing another version to change 1 letter |
| 09:08.51 | Nash|327 | oh well not like anyone reads building descriptions |
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| 09:09.14 | Obatztrara | hi |
| 09:09.14 | Nash|327 | obatface |
| 09:09.26 | Obatztrara | hey nash...frinege 3.0 out, huh? :) |
| 09:09.29 | Obatztrara | fringe* |
| 09:09.30 | Nash|327 | yes |
| 09:09.42 | Nash|327 | I must idle it now D: |
| 09:09.50 | Obatztrara | :O |
| 09:09.54 | Nash|327 | so it beats the old version in popularity |
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| 09:11.00 | Nash|327 | FYI: When you upload new version the old version stays in popularity list with existing popularity and the new version is a separate entry. And since the old version no longer exists it can't be played. |
| 09:11.52 | Obatztrara | oh...that kinda sucks.. O_O |
| 09:12.16 | Nash|327 | So when people try to join the map, they will get "a problem occured while loading the map" unless they dig up the new version entry at page 20 something. |
| 09:12.33 | Nash|327 | Keep that in mind when you start releasing your map :G |
| 09:12.54 | Nash|327 | I'll make a post on forums about it. |
| 09:17.50 | Obatztrara | Helral? |
| 09:20.17 | Helral|afk | meow? |
| 09:20.19 | Obatztrara | or anyone else who has messed with layout files (post 1.3) |
| 09:20.20 | Obatztrara | yay |
| 09:20.46 | Obatztrara | simple question probably: how do i remove a width/length information? |
| 09:20.56 | Helral|afk | Height/Width? |
| 09:21.14 | Obatztrara | uh yes, my bad+ |
| 09:21.36 | Helral|afk | uhm not afaik.... got a question about that posted on the eu-forums and poked Sixen about it no useable response from either side yet. |
| 09:21.45 | Obatztrara | darn... |
| 09:21.50 | Helral|afk | you just need to figure out the correct sizes atm :( |
| 09:22.16 | Obatztrara | that sucks, because I cant access the resolution viy layout atm I guess? |
| 09:22.21 | Obatztrara | via* |
| 09:22.48 | Helral|afk | which one did you want to remove the width/height from? |
| 09:23.11 | Obatztrara | the command panel. I want to strech it to the complete screen so that I can move commandbuttons freely |
| 09:23.42 | Helral|afk | hmmmm |
| 09:24.03 | Helral|afk | well you can do that with a workaround. |
| 09:24.17 | Helral|afk | but the buttons won t be anchored to the sides then :( |
| 09:24.21 | Obatztrara | hmm I guess I could make the size much bigger than the screen but anchor the buttons to something I know is on the screen |
| 09:24.38 | Helral|afk | ow wait you can anchor them to the sides. |
| 09:24.44 | Obatztrara | explain :D |
| 09:25.02 | Obatztrara | I think I know |
| 09:25.03 | Obatztrara | xD |
| 09:25.26 | Obatztrara | set the size much bigger but anchor everything to the parent/parent |
| 09:25.33 | Helral|afk | just anchor the command panel to the middle of the screen (<Anchor side=... pos=mid offset=0 relative=$parent/>) and set the Width/Height to 2000. then anchor the buttons to $parent/$parent. |
| 09:25.37 | Helral|afk | :) |
| 09:25.38 | Obatztrara | xD |
| 09:25.39 | Obatztrara | nice |
| 09:26.06 | Obatztrara | im getting the hang of this.. |
| 09:26.17 | Obatztrara | thanks anyways :) |
| 09:26.49 | burne- | I also got one question about layout files |
| 09:26.58 | burne- | how do I remove the fucking unit group thing |
| 09:27.14 | burne- | like you can put units to ctrl+1 |
| 09:27.19 | burne- | and its on the screen |
| 09:27.26 | burne- | i want it removed |
| 09:27.28 | burne- | -_- |
| 09:27.43 | Helral|afk | Show/Hide UI Frame - Hide, Control Group Panel. |
| 09:27.50 | burne- | oh thx |
| 09:27.53 | Helral|afk | :P |
| 09:27.55 | burne- | it was that simple |
| 09:27.59 | burne- | :) |
| 09:28.15 | Helral|afk | don t use UI files if you want to hide something, which is doable with triggers. |
| 09:28.19 | burne- | I tought i looked trough those options |
| 09:28.20 | Obatztrara | hmm does that just hide the frame or disable the ctrl+1 thing completely? |
| 09:28.22 | burne- | i know |
| 09:28.26 | burne- | but i think i missed that |
| 09:28.33 | Helral|afk | hide not disable afaik. |
| 09:28.39 | Obatztrara | k =( |
| 09:28.41 | burne- | hiding is good enough for me |
| 09:29.10 | Helral|afk | Obatztrara: enable/disable user action (orso) I think you can use to disable controlgroup hotkeys. |
| 09:29.23 | blub_ | yay |
| 09:29.28 | Obatztrara | neat, will check it |
| 09:29.28 | blub_ | full galaxy api in vim XD |
| 09:29.43 | Mexa|portal2_ | full galaxy api in np++ |
| 09:29.47 | Mexa|portal2_ | dundundun |
| 09:30.15 | blub_ | time for portal 2 |
| 09:30.28 | Mexa|portal2_ | indeed:p |
| 09:31.06 | Nash|327 | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/editor-bugs-and-feedback/20853-nb-uploading-new-map-version-causes-listing-issues/ |
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| 09:33.18 | Nash|327 | tell your friends ;G |
| 09:33.56 | blub_ | they sdon't disable the winoze key, gah |
| 09:33.57 | blub_ | stupid |
| 09:35.12 | Obatztrara | Cant find it Helral.. :/ |
| 09:36.19 | Nash|327 | brilliant this listing system :G |
| 09:39.51 | blub_ | additionally, sometimes your map can be in the list multiple times wiht the same version but different gamespeeds :P |
| 09:40.20 | Nash|327 | great, split your popularity up |
| 09:40.40 | Nash|327 | at least Custom/Custom is gone now |
| 09:41.04 | Nash|327 | was a time when that mode, which doesn't work, had higher popularity than the proper one |
| 09:41.16 | Nash|327 | so people would join, and not be able to play |
| 09:41.52 | Nash|327 | I idled the proper mode a bit |
| 09:42.09 | Nash|327 | so people would see that first :G |
| 09:42.52 | Nash|327 | now I have to idle again |
| 09:43.00 | Nash|327 | just join game and alt+tab out |
| 09:51.55 | burne- | the office |
| 09:51.57 | burne- | brilliant SHOW |
| 09:52.04 | burne- | i wish i could get some more of it |
| 09:52.17 | burne- | anyone watchet the UK version? is it as good/better than US version? |
| 09:52.36 | blub_ | I would have expected them to bring out a quick hotfix by now |
| 09:52.40 | blub_ | 1.3.2.1 :P |
| 09:52.53 | blub_ | for the listing issues |
| 09:53.01 | Nash|327 | it's just custom mappers, they're used to the abuse |
| 09:53.55 | Nash|327 | what with their masochistic tendencies to make a completely different game using limited editor tools D_D |
| 09:54.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster Stewox (563a22a6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.58.34.166) |
| 09:54.22 | Stewox | hello |
| 09:54.31 | burne- | hi |
| 09:54.36 | Stewox | there is still not possible to change game speed in SC2 ? |
| 09:54.39 | Nash|327 | it's like people programming in malebolge, don't see them complaining :P |
| 09:54.41 | burne- | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCrbv81SBHg&feature=feedu |
| 09:54.46 | burne- | new EPIC MEALTIMEEEEEEE |
| 09:54.53 | Nash|327 | or mindfuck |
| 10:00.15 | Stewox | so |
| 10:00.27 | Stewox | nobody tried modifying speed yet ? |
| 10:01.26 | Helral|Work | Stewox: someone did a bullet time thingy with speed adjustment once, dunno how though. ;p |
| 10:01.31 | Nash|327 | hmm people playing Photon Cycles on EU :o |
| 10:02.05 | Stewox | that was in SC2 beta helral , i think there was still possible |
| 10:04.36 | Nash|327 | Max Payne D: |
| 10:05.00 | Nash|327 | Jim Paynor? |
| 10:07.48 | Helral|Work | Gin Payne ;p |
| 10:08.10 | Helral|Work | he's so drunk that everything goes in slowmotion. ;p |
| 10:08.30 | Stewox | helral |
| 10:08.34 | Stewox | where is this guy |
| 10:08.38 | Stewox | malu5 |
| 10:08.45 | Helral|Work | who's that? |
| 10:08.55 | Stewox | the guy who made a map with slowmotion |
| 10:09.00 | Stewox | malu05a |
| 10:09.05 | Helral|Work | ow. no idea ;p |
| 10:09.07 | Stewox | ~seen malu05a |
| 10:09.12 | purl | i haven't seen 'malu05a', Stewox |
| 10:09.19 | Stewox | ~seen malu |
| 10:09.19 | purl | i haven't seen 'malu', Stewox |
| 10:09.24 | burne- | you can just use time bomb ability for speed slow? |
| 10:09.25 | Stewox | ~seen malu05 |
| 10:09.25 | purl | malu05 <~m@50C55AEA.flatrate.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 101d 19h 49m 7s ago, saying: 'which again means all events that require a subname can't be done'. |
| 10:09.45 | Nash|327 | only 101 days |
| 10:10.04 | Stewox | yeah that like january ... |
| 10:10.08 | Stewox | or december |
| 10:10.14 | Nash|327 | or Norway |
| 10:10.16 | Helral|Work | 8 jan orso ;p |
| 10:10.35 | Nash|327 | No wait, Norway is a country, not a month. |
| 10:10.46 | Stewox | how do you mean time bomb ability |
| 10:10.49 | Stewox | it's not an ability |
| 10:10.57 | Stewox | it's a game variable |
| 10:11.06 | Stewox | hardcoded |
| 10:11.42 | Stewox | i need his AC130 map to see the code |
| 10:11.46 | Nash|327 | Time Bomb is a Rancid song |
| 10:11.48 | Stewox | or else i can't do much (blind) |
| 10:12.09 | burne- | what should the bullet time do? |
| 10:12.16 | burne- | just slow things down? |
| 10:12.21 | Stewox | i don't know what he did |
| 10:12.25 | Stewox | maybe it was just movers |
| 10:12.33 | Stewox | but he said it was gamespeed |
| 10:12.41 | Stewox | he didn't show us the code |
| 10:12.53 | Stewox | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/2398-full-gamespeed-control-usefull-for-bullettime-stuff/ |
| 10:13.07 | Obatztrara | you can set the relative speed for every unit |
| 10:13.23 | Stewox | :::: But messing around with some (undocumented!?, not sure if they are in the editor) function you can acurally set the game speed to anything you want. |
| 10:13.34 | Stewox | that's what he said ^^ |
| 10:13.36 | Obatztrara | no need to modify the actual game speed |
| 10:13.41 | Nash|327 | behavior that reduces attack and movement speed? :G |
| 10:13.45 | Obatztrara | no. |
| 10:14.12 | Obatztrara | there is a modification in the behaviour that sets how fast time is calculated for the unit |
| 10:14.20 | Nash|327 | nifty |
| 10:14.36 | Obatztrara | it works like a charm |
| 10:14.46 | Nash|327 | charms don't work, though |
| 10:14.46 | Obatztrara | apply that to every unit that enters your map and you have slowmotion |
| 10:14.53 | Stewox | i want this full control for code exectution (so the code parses faster) not just movement speed of stuff in-game |
| 10:14.59 | burne- | yea |
| 10:15.07 | Nash|327 | charms are superstitious nonsense D: |
| 10:15.11 | Obatztrara | :( |
| 10:15.15 | Nash|327 | so it works badly? |
| 10:15.23 | Nash|327 | ie. not at all |
| 10:15.32 | Stewox | obatztrara |
| 10:15.38 | Stewox | i have sc2.exe running |
| 10:16.05 | Stewox | and loaded into cheat engine , i just need to find [game speed value ?] to change it |
| 10:16.19 | Stewox | here's something malu said about tracing back the command |
| 10:16.34 | Stewox | 0x02F6A064 |
| 10:17.03 | Obatztrara | -_- |
| 10:17.09 | Obatztrara | no idea, sorry |
| 10:17.28 | Obatztrara | oh wait i remember the F6A064 part!! |
| 10:17.34 | Obatztrara | ...wait I dont. |
| 10:17.36 | Obatztrara | ... |
| 10:19.44 | Stewox | LOOOOOOL |
| 10:19.57 | Stewox | im so so so so sosososo stupid |
| 10:22.03 | Stewox | done |
| 10:22.05 | Stewox | working |
| 10:22.10 | Stewox | congratz |
| 10:23.04 | Stewox | I was like having that opened for an hour and didn't notice it |
| 10:23.35 | Stewox | obatztrara helral|work take a look at this: http://www.shrani.si/f/2P/tU/o0kngg9/sc2speedhack.jpg |
| 10:24.50 | Nash|327 | speed hax D: |
| 10:26.19 | Stewox | make sure you have internet plugged out before doing this |
| 10:26.40 | Stewox | for longer periods of time |
| 10:27.15 | blub_ | why do people even make hacks and cheat engines :( |
| 10:27.33 | blub_ | what's the point of playing ladder with a map hack? |
| 10:27.38 | blub_ | what does it get them >.< |
| 10:27.44 | Nash|327 | MOAR WINZ |
| 10:28.05 | blub_ | and with more wins they can buy more food and more clothes? |
| 10:28.05 | blub_ | :P |
| 10:28.18 | Nash|327 | no, but they get bigger e-penis |
| 10:28.31 | Stewox | haha |
| 10:29.39 | Nash|327 | idling my map for 1½ hours now :G |
| 10:30.22 | blub_ | idling does what? |
| 10:30.31 | blub_ | bigger e-penis? :P |
| 10:31.11 | blub_ | ^^ |
| 10:40.08 | Obatztrara | I dare say my UI works for all resolutions now..and if anyone plays sc2 on 640x480 i shall kill that person personally. |
| 10:40.22 | Helral|Work | meows |
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| 10:48.54 | blub_ | doesn't the game use a virtual UI size anyway? |
| 10:49.10 | blub_ | or is it all in pixel sizes :O |
| 10:49.13 | blub_ | that would be crappy |
| 10:53.24 | Stewox | im so happy :D |
| 10:53.32 | Stewox | works like a charm |
| 10:54.05 | Stewox | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/12011-greatly-increasing-game-speed-over-faster/#p16 |
| 10:59.50 | Stewox | SC2Mapster > PM > CC (Carbon Copy) > how do i separate users , with a comma or a space ? |
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| 11:09.30 | Stewox | it must be night in usa |
| 11:09.31 | Stewox | nobody ... |
| 11:09.49 | Stewox | and EU working , but i got a day off today :p |
| 11:19.39 | Helral|Work | Stewox: a "," ;p |
| 11:19.47 | Stewox | okay |
| 11:19.54 | Stewox | one quicky in editor |
| 11:19.59 | Stewox | Scale Up doesn't seem to work |
| 11:20.03 | Stewox | it's NUMPAD+ |
| 11:20.08 | Stewox | i just want to scale one unit up |
| 11:20.11 | Stewox | like zergling |
| 11:20.20 | Stewox | without the need of modifying data |
| 11:21.07 | Obatztrara | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:21.34 | Obatztrara | nvm |
| 11:21.38 | Obatztrara | figured it out+ |
| 11:22.04 | Stewox | playable units cannot be scaled in realtime in editor |
| 11:22.13 | Stewox | only structures (neutral) can |
| 11:22.42 | burne- | blob_ yo |
| 11:22.56 | burne- | you think i should add speed panels that require accuarasy for my map |
| 11:23.07 | burne- | or something that you will always hit |
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| 11:26.54 | Obatztrara | uhh ..different question Helral: do you know if textures can be rotated 90° with layout files? |
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| 11:40.00 | Helral|Work | Obatztrara: don't think so. |
| 11:40.09 | Obatztrara | =/ |
| 11:40.51 | Stewox | hi |
| 11:40.57 | Stewox | how do i increase default camera level |
| 11:41.02 | Stewox | up |
| 11:41.09 | Stewox | in a map |
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| 11:49.49 | Stewox | obatztrara |
| 11:49.57 | Stewox | how do i increase camera level |
| 11:49.59 | Obatztrara | uh |
| 11:51.14 | Obatztrara | i think the zoom levels were somewhere in data |
| 11:51.16 | Obatztrara | let me check.. |
| 11:52.24 | Stewox | also .... disabling the FOG of war ... i will try this via triggers |
| 11:53.25 | Stewox | Fog done |
| 11:54.11 | Stewox | what is |
| 11:54.13 | Stewox | Height Displacement |
| 11:54.13 | Obatztrara | Data - Cameras - CCamera |
| 11:54.19 | Obatztrara | take a look at that |
| 11:54.48 | Obatztrara | or rather Standard Camera |
| 11:55.48 | Stewox | oh okay |
| 11:58.22 | Stewox | that's a default |
| 11:58.30 | Stewox | core native |
| 11:58.50 | Nash|327 | IDLE MOAR |
| 11:58.54 | Stewox | that's the "game data" i was talking about of being exported and i did |
| 11:59.11 | Stewox | because i bet , there's probably more options than the editor shows |
| 12:00.27 | Stewox | lol why is camera rotate at 45* |
| 12:00.42 | Stewox | this is a 3D Game and they don't allow full circle camera rotation |
| 12:01.59 | Obatztrara | have you ever played any blizzard game? they always have this rotate 45° thing.. |
| 12:02.05 | Obatztrara | wc3 had it...sc2 has it.. |
| 12:02.09 | Obatztrara | :D |
| 12:02.20 | Stewox | sc2 and WOW is my first blizz games |
| 12:02.32 | Stewox | i was over at COD and C&C in those times |
| 12:03.03 | Mexa|portal2_ | full circle camera motion? |
| 12:03.12 | Stewox | but ofcourse i knew SC2 would be great when dustin browder joined blizzard after leaving westwood (EA) |
| 12:03.17 | Mexa|portal2_ | the camera have both a roll pitch and yaw |
| 12:03.22 | Nash|327 | mexaface smells |
| 12:03.29 | Mexa|portal2_ | :V |
| 12:03.42 | Stewox | without dustin's C&C experience this game would have been a lot diffrent |
| 12:03.47 | Nash|327 | I'm on Bnet idling my map :G |
| 12:03.51 | Mexa|portal2_ | throws mexaface at nashface. |
| 12:04.14 | Mexa|portal2_ | Now, you have my scent |
| 12:04.17 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 12:04.18 | Mexa|portal2_ | Smell that |
| 12:04.22 | Nash|327 | it smells |
| 12:04.31 | Mexa|portal2_ | it sure does |
| 12:04.38 | Mexa|portal2_ | Intoxicating huh? |
| 12:04.42 | Obatztrara | next convo in 20 sec |
| 12:04.43 | Obatztrara | >_> |
| 12:05.00 | Nash|327 | your smelly smell smells |
| 12:05.17 | Stewox | obat |
| 12:05.18 | Stewox | i don't know what it is |
| 12:05.18 | Nash|327 | obatface doesn't like it either |
| 12:05.21 | Mexa|portal2_ | I couldn't have said it any better:p |
| 12:05.25 | Stewox | Distance or Far Clip |
| 12:05.32 | Mexa|portal2_ | Distance |
| 12:06.00 | Stewox | it's not CCamera |
| 12:06.12 | Stewox | these values don't seem to match the ingame |
| 12:06.15 | Mexa|portal2_ | You can set it through triggers if you lik |
| 12:06.18 | Mexa|portal2_ | *like |
| 12:06.22 | Stewox | Distance = 43 and Farclip = 400 |
| 12:06.25 | Mexa|portal2_ | It's not CCamera |
| 12:06.37 | Mexa|portal2_ | It's the one specified in the terrain set you are using |
| 12:07.00 | Stewox | lol |
| 12:07.01 | Mexa|portal2_ | eg if your environment is Korhal, it should use the Korhal default camera |
| 12:07.04 | Stewox | Default Camera then |
| 12:07.11 | Stewox | there's no names other than |
| 12:07.25 | Stewox | CC and Default and Micro and Spaceplatfomr |
| 12:07.46 | Mexa|portal2_ | Then it should be default |
| 12:07.50 | Mexa|portal2_ | I suppose |
| 12:08.03 | Stewox | give me instruct on trigger |
| 12:08.05 | Mexa|portal2_ | You could also manipulate it through triggers. |
| 12:08.08 | Stewox | i didn't found on triggers |
| 12:08.46 | Mexa|portal2_ | Either use CameraSetValue (int player, int type, fixed value, fixed duration, fixed velocity, fixed decelerate); or CameraInfoSetValue (camerainfo c, int type, fixed value); |
| 12:09.14 | Obatztrara | yes farclip is when the camera stops rendering. its distance you need to set |
| 12:09.25 | Mexa|portal2_ | Not sure about the default fixed parameters |
| 12:10.10 | Stewox | lol |
| 12:10.13 | Mexa|portal2_ | But say, CameraSetValue(1, c_cameraValueDistance, 0, -1, 0) |
| 12:10.14 | Mexa|portal2_ | I think |
| 12:10.19 | Stewox | that stop rendering is so annoying in editor |
| 12:10.21 | Mexa|portal2_ | oh |
| 12:10.24 | Mexa|portal2_ | forgot the value |
| 12:10.29 | Stewox | anyway to increase camera farclip for editor it self |
| 12:10.46 | Mexa|portal2_ | CameraSetValue(1, c_cameraValueDistance, somevalue, 0, -1, 0) I guess |
| 12:11.31 | Mexa|portal2_ | or CameraInfoSetValue( CameraInfoDefault(), c_cameraValueDistance, somevalue) |
| 12:11.44 | Mexa|portal2_ | If that's what you're looking for anyway |
| 12:11.52 | Mexa|portal2_ | Brb |
| 12:15.53 | Stewox | hm okay |
| 12:16.08 | Stewox | i got a question about ... policy for modding |
| 12:16.27 | Stewox | does it totally prohibit the use of copyrighted assets like making a PORT |
| 12:17.04 | Mexa|portal2_ | You mean, to rip assets from a copyrighted game to sc2? |
| 12:17.26 | Stewox | yes , sound and cameos |
| 12:17.38 | Stewox | maybe UI ... |
| 12:17.43 | Mexa|portal2_ | It's a violation |
| 12:18.00 | Stewox | where does it say |
| 12:18.03 | Mexa|portal2_ | And the author would most likely not agreed unless you are granted a permission to do it. |
| 12:18.30 | Stewox | ah |
| 12:18.33 | Stewox | ask EA |
| 12:18.34 | Stewox | :p |
| 12:18.54 | Stewox | but EA never made a lot of cease and desist ... |
| 12:19.08 | Mexa|portal2_ | Well |
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| 12:19.17 | Mexa|portal2_ | EA and Blizzard are both huge gaming companies |
| 12:19.24 | Stewox | i don't eve know what is that code mexa |
| 12:19.29 | Stewox | triggers / data ? |
| 12:19.36 | Mexa|portal2_ | They may not want you to rip resources from one another. |
| 12:19.43 | superdoug | ea is bigger |
| 12:19.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster Nash|Laptop (51eae117@gateway/web/freenode/ip.81.234.225.23) |
| 12:19.52 | superdoug | because ea is like activision |
| 12:19.52 | Stewox | lol hear that |
| 12:20.01 | Nash|Laptop | :G |
| 12:20.13 | Mexa|portal2_ | EA has a larger publishing sector than actual development |
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| 12:20.37 | Mexa|portal2_ | Not that it matters |
| 12:20.39 | superdoug | and they have 3k employees |
| 12:20.46 | superdoug | blizzard has few hundred |
| 12:20.48 | Mexa|portal2_ | and Blizzard have > 2000 |
| 12:20.51 | Mexa|portal2_ | Lol |
| 12:21.02 | Nash|Laptop | I left the map open to idle and use laptop instead |
| 12:21.04 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 12:21.07 | Mexa|portal2_ | You know, I made that mistake believieing that first superdoug |
| 12:21.09 | Mexa|portal2_ | But no |
| 12:21.14 | Mexa|portal2_ | They are hugeer than you think |
| 12:21.20 | Stewox | you can't compare EA to Blizzard |
| 12:21.40 | Obatztrara | Nash are you even sure lobby time boosts your map? |
| 12:21.50 | Stewox | blizzard is an company withing Activision Blizzard |
| 12:21.53 | Nash|Laptop | not lobby |
| 12:21.56 | Nash|Laptop | in game |
| 12:22.07 | Mexa|portal2_ | a child company |
| 12:22.16 | Mexa|portal2_ | Just like EA is divided into several parts |
| 12:22.23 | superdoug | yea atv bought them |
| 12:22.39 | Stewox | Blizzard ought to be separate from Activision but bobby kotick is always poking at it and i see how blizzard fights it back |
| 12:22.40 | Mexa|portal2_ | atv? |
| 12:22.45 | Nash|Laptop | and the map time does go up |
| 12:22.58 | Nash|Laptop | little by little |
| 12:23.02 | Stewox | it didn't bought them |
| 12:23.03 | superdoug | Activision |
| 12:23.05 | Stewox | they merged |
| 12:23.07 | Obatztrara | ah yea that works of course |
| 12:23.21 | Mexa|portal2_ | [14:19] <Stewox> triggers / data ? -It's triggers or galaxy or whatever |
| 12:23.32 | Stewox | i don't know what code you gave me |
| 12:23.42 | Stewox | seems like raw galaxy |
| 12:23.46 | Mexa|portal2_ | yes |
| 12:23.55 | Stewox | what can i do with it |
| 12:24.02 | Mexa|portal2_ | Modify the distance |
| 12:24.14 | Mexa|portal2_ | I thought that was what you were looking for? |
| 12:24.15 | Stewox | i don't really know how to mod wiht this editor via custom scripts |
| 12:24.16 | superdoug | activision gave mike morhaime blizzards ceo a ton of money for the company |
| 12:24.35 | Stewox | ah... |
| 12:24.52 | Nash|Laptop | unless someone wants to play or test stuff I'll just let the computer run the game and the game run the map |
| 12:25.40 | superdoug | theyre working on a new game and its not warcraft 4 |
| 12:25.48 | Stewox | Blizzard was sold to Vivendi ,, it was at Vivendi for a long time , Activision wanted to expand and that booby kotick needed Vivendi's trust so that's why all the nice talk with IW before that |
| 12:25.49 | Mexa|portal2_ | Project Titan |
| 12:26.01 | Mexa|portal2_ | a MMORPG, no? |
| 12:26.21 | Nash|Laptop | WORLD OF STARCRAFT |
| 12:26.23 | Stewox | Vivendi Games and Activision merged with vivendi having a controlling stake in the new company named Activision Blizzard |
| 12:26.25 | superdoug | itll be announced at blizzcon |
| 12:26.56 | Nash|Laptop | A new MMO would be kind of dumb though |
| 12:26.57 | Stewox | Who controlls blizzard and Activision is not Activision , but Vivendi , who controlled Blizzard before |
| 12:27.04 | Mexa|portal2_ | Nash |
| 12:27.07 | Nash|Laptop | cannibalizing your own market |
| 12:27.55 | superdoug | its why blizz employees got lazy putting less work in sc2 |
| 12:28.06 | superdoug | they were like we were sold |
| 12:28.12 | Mexa|portal2_ | It's settled anyway |
| 12:28.15 | Nash|Laptop | As long as there are plenty of WoW addicts, why make another MMO? |
| 12:28.28 | Mexa|portal2_ | They have a Next-Gen MMO project going on |
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| 12:28.36 | superdoug | yea wow made them so much money |
| 12:28.38 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 12:29.07 | superdoug | thats the only game they need |
| 12:29.21 | Nash|Laptop | That's like getting people addicted to crack and then spending a lot of money making a new kind of crack |
| 12:29.32 | Mexa|portal2_ | they also have another "Unannounced Game Title" |
| 12:29.41 | Nash|Laptop | People will buy your fucking crack anyway, why bother? |
| 12:29.48 | Mexa|portal2_ | so two projects currently not revealed |
| 12:30.16 | superdoug | one last wow expansion |
| 12:30.23 | Nash|Laptop | what you do is you start to dilute the crack with more baby powder instead |
| 12:30.52 | superdoug | yea they know ppl are gonna buy it anyways |
| 12:31.27 | Nash|Laptop | and buy MORE because it's not as effective |
| 12:31.29 | superdoug | each sc2 campaign is $60 |
| 12:32.02 | Nash|Laptop | get some micro transaction shit going, buy better items |
| 12:32.21 | Nash|Laptop | no effort to make, sell for $1 |
| 12:32.41 | superdoug | maps are gonna be $3 i heard |
| 12:32.53 | superdoug | custom ones made by the community |
| 12:33.27 | Nash|Laptop | yeah I don't think they can sell those D_D |
| 12:33.36 | superdoug | and there might be a contest where most popular ones blizzard pays u for |
| 12:33.55 | superdoug | u spend points for them on bnet2.0 |
| 12:34.14 | Nash|Laptop | I call bullshit |
| 12:34.43 | superdoug | they announced it before and chris sigaty said its still gonna go on |
| 12:34.54 | Nash|Laptop | nobody would make maps, nor would they be able to because they are robbed of testing opportunity via battle.net D_D |
| 12:35.15 | Nash|Laptop | Anyone wanna pay 3 bucks to help test my map? |
| 12:35.21 | superdoug | only the best maps will be sold on the marketplace |
| 12:35.22 | Nash|Laptop | Yeah, that'll work... |
| 12:35.44 | superdoug | so whoever wants to play it has to spend points on it |
| 12:35.47 | superdoug | for each player |
| 12:36.11 | superdoug | and the map creator gets a cut |
| 12:36.34 | superdoug | making some money on the side |
| 12:37.15 | Nash|Laptop | ah |
| 12:37.32 | Nash|Laptop | well would you pay 3 bucks for a map? |
| 12:37.43 | Nash|Laptop | would you charge 3 bucks for a map? |
| 12:37.50 | superdoug | if its good |
| 12:38.00 | superdoug | and everyones buying it yea |
| 12:38.03 | Nash|Laptop | in my case: no, and no |
| 12:38.29 | superdoug | because if ur friends are playing it and u dont have it |
| 12:38.32 | superdoug | ur missing out |
| 12:38.55 | Nash|Laptop | oh well I don't have any friends that play SC2 |
| 12:39.15 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dekar (~Dekar@p4FCEB745.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:39.16 | Nash|Laptop | nor would I pay 3 bucks even if I did D_D |
| 12:39.20 | superdoug | ones u met online in sc2 |
| 12:39.23 | Dekar | D_D |
| 12:39.55 | superdoug | the map has to be really good like 9.5/10 score |
| 12:40.14 | superdoug | and i think blizz said theyre doing it to motivate map makers |
| 12:40.41 | Nash|Laptop | maybe they should make better dev tools |
| 12:41.12 | superdoug | it was talked about before theyll bring it up at blizzcon i guess |
| 12:41.16 | Nash|Laptop | I wouldn't make a map to make money |
| 12:42.32 | superdoug | for both ppl to play and are willing to pay to dl it in the marketplace |
| 12:43.58 | Nash|Laptop | I'd only bother making money off stuff if it means I wouldn't need a job. |
| 12:44.22 | Nash|Laptop | If it's just extra money to buy some more shit with, then meh, whatever. |
| 12:45.28 | Nash|Laptop | Though I'd have better luck selling books than maps for that kind of money. |
| 12:46.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster Mexa|Slapchop_ (504ed88b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.78.216.139) |
| 12:46.49 | Mexa|Laptop | durr |
| 12:46.59 | superdoug | its a lot say $3 per player if 1k ppl dl it thats $3k |
| 12:47.39 | Nash|Laptop | and you get half maybe |
| 12:48.00 | superdoug | if one author makes multiple maps that good it gets more |
| 12:48.07 | Nash|Laptop | and you need to make a new good map every month to make a living |
| 12:48.34 | Nash|Laptop | I'd rather write books. |
| 12:48.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster rynti (557f7556@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.127.117.86) |
| 12:49.05 | burne- | and not to mention its probly gona be super hard to sell the map at all |
| 12:49.06 | Mexa|Laptop | Away with you slappie.. |
| 12:49.24 | burne- | has to be like super interesting and good quality (not to mention can you even play it on bnet) |
| 12:49.31 | burne- | since its not popular :E |
| 12:49.42 | superdoug | for a really good tower defense map ppl will buy those |
| 12:49.43 | burne- | maybe it would be best to make campaigns for marketplace |
| 12:49.46 | burne- | if it ever comes |
| 12:50.14 | Nash|Laptop | People will buy tap water in fancy packaging. |
| 12:50.29 | burne- | well water is more neccecary than sc2? :D |
| 12:50.34 | superdoug | of course the more popular ones will sell more |
| 12:50.50 | Nash|Laptop | Doesn't mean you should bottle tap water all day. |
| 12:51.50 | Nash|Laptop | And once you start making things that sell instead of things you want to make, it's just a job. |
| 12:51.56 | Nash|Laptop | A poorly paying one. |
| 12:52.23 | burne- | I doubt nobody would make maps just for money |
| 12:52.28 | burne- | since its so unreliable |
| 12:52.44 | burne- | if the marketplace ever even comes |
| 12:52.52 | Mexa|Laptop | it is |
| 12:53.32 | Nash|Laptop | I can get a job and make $4200 a month entry level |
| 12:53.33 | Mexa|Laptop | The problem was lying in the fact that "they never have done something like this before" |
| 12:53.44 | Nash|Laptop | without overtime and all that |
| 12:54.11 | Mexa|Laptop | Awesome, I can almost disguise myself in nashface. |
| 12:54.17 | Nash|Laptop | hax |
| 12:54.50 | burne- | 4200 sounds much |
| 12:54.52 | burne- | how you gona make that much |
| 12:55.09 | Mexa|Laptop | lead programmer role |
| 12:55.12 | Nash|Laptop | it's pretty standard |
| 12:55.14 | Mexa|Laptop | or any other lead role |
| 12:55.31 | Nash|Laptop | when you have a master's degree in computer science |
| 12:55.38 | Nash|Laptop | :G |
| 12:55.48 | burne- | you mix well |
| 12:55.49 | burne- | :) |
| 12:56.02 | Mexa|Laptop | So, when can we see some result of your job nash? |
| 12:56.03 | Mexa|Laptop | :> |
| 12:56.21 | Nash|Laptop | when I stop hanging on IRC all day? |
| 12:56.29 | Nash|Laptop | that being the result D_D |
| 12:56.43 | Mexa|Laptop | lol, a case I recon |
| 12:56.52 | Mexa|Laptop | I went from being on one chat to this one |
| 12:56.55 | Mexa|Laptop | durr. |
| 12:57.02 | superdoug | well 7k ppl buys the map for $3 each its $21k for that one map |
| 12:57.05 | Mexa|Laptop | And it kills time. |
| 12:57.09 | superdoug | thats a good deal |
| 12:57.42 | Nash|Laptop | I think you overestimate the number of people willing to buy maps, let alone play them |
| 12:57.45 | Mexa|Laptop | Looking at the bookmarked maps now, it shouldn't be all too impossible |
| 12:58.10 | burne- | mmm, yea there might be chance to sell maps since it feels like 90% kids playins sc2. They will just ask their mommy for some money for sc2 maps |
| 12:58.12 | grim001_ | only 5% to 10% of people who bookmark a map would be willing to buy a map, and that's pretty optimistic |
| 12:58.23 | Mexa|Laptop | perhaps |
| 12:58.36 | burne- | but i sitll think not many people will buy maps |
| 12:58.41 | Nash|Laptop | join the Custom Games channel, it's all "1v1 plz" |
| 12:59.05 | Nash|Laptop | Not a lot of interest in custom maps. |
| 12:59.26 | Nash|Laptop | People are ladder whores or want to practice to become better ladder whores. |
| 12:59.30 | Mexa|Laptop | Oh yeah, I was reminded that grim said optimistic |
| 12:59.36 | Mexa|Laptop | yeah... |
| 12:59.40 | superdoug | even the boring custom games are in high popularity right now |
| 12:59.48 | grim001_ | it might be as low as 2% |
| 13:00.10 | Mexa|Laptop | you could speculate almost any numbers |
| 13:00.27 | superdoug | we'll see how it goes |
| 13:00.31 | burne- | the problem lies within if only like 2k people buy the game, can you find any players for the map? |
| 13:00.36 | grim001_ | conversion rates for online transactions have a pretty standard range |
| 13:00.43 | burne- | they might be on so different times |
| 13:00.51 | grim001_ | burne-, good point, most maps can barely find enough players as it is. |
| 13:01.31 | superdoug | it could have both single player and multi mode |
| 13:01.31 | burne- | thats why i said campaigns are pretty much only choise for marketplace |
| 13:01.39 | burne- | or atleast have single player feature |
| 13:01.44 | Kueken | well, how many players are in one bnet region? |
| 13:01.45 | Mexa|Laptop | Is there any other community like in Blizzard games that have a major amount of people making maps/mods? |
| 13:02.02 | Kueken | the most popular custom maps have about 10k hours |
| 13:02.05 | superdoug | when i logon bnet it says 1 million online |
| 13:02.13 | superdoug | or 500,000 online etc |
| 13:02.15 | Nash|Laptop | Unreal games, Half-Life 2 |
| 13:02.28 | Kueken | these hours are saved for approx 3 days |
| 13:02.30 | Mexa|Laptop | so, source mods |
| 13:02.33 | Kueken | from what i can tell |
| 13:02.40 | Mexa|Laptop | Still not in the same scale |
| 13:02.46 | Kueken | so lets say 1 million users |
| 13:02.59 | Kueken | play 10k hours of custom games in 3 days |
| 13:03.50 | Kueken | thats 12 seconds of custom maps per user per day |
| 13:03.59 | Kueken | for the most popular one only |
| 13:04.19 | Kueken | if we take 1st page all together we might have 50k hours |
| 13:04.28 | Kueken | = 1 minute |
| 13:04.31 | Kueken | per player |
| 13:04.38 | Kueken | not exactly that much ;) |
| 13:04.48 | grim001_ | maybe that "1 million online" figure is for all of bnet 2.0 |
| 13:05.07 | Kueken | well, my assumptions are terribly flawed, i know |
| 13:05.33 | burne- | yea |
| 13:06.01 | Mexa|Laptop | Still alot of players for two games |
| 13:07.09 | Kueken | and still a very bad rate for custom games |
| 13:07.10 | Mexa|Laptop | Steam have about 2.5 millions users online every day |
| 13:07.12 | Mexa|Laptop | in average |
| 13:07.38 | Mexa|Laptop | in comparison |
| 13:07.41 | Kueken | and Steam has how many games exactly? xD |
| 13:07.57 | Mexa|Laptop | Many |
| 13:08.00 | Mexa|Laptop | :> |
| 13:08.07 | Kueken | precisely :D |
| 13:08.56 | Nash|Laptop | WoW included in those 1 mil? |
| 13:08.56 | Mexa|Laptop | yeah, I'm on your side or something |
| 13:09.07 | superdoug | it what blizzard said they were gonna add |
| 13:09.12 | Mexa|Laptop | if it is battle.net 2.0, then yes |
| 13:09.13 | superdoug | i dunno how its gonna work |
| 13:09.39 | Nash|Laptop | bet most of those people play WoW then D_D |
| 13:09.54 | Mexa|Laptop | About 500k players on b.net now |
| 13:10.03 | Stewox | currently it's bnet 0.3 |
| 13:10.05 | Mexa|Laptop | I will jump up and down like always |
| 13:10.24 | superdoug | the marketplace could be just for addons like decals and new costumes in sc2 |
| 13:10.26 | Mexa|Laptop | Not sure what the average is for bnet |
| 13:10.43 | Nash|Laptop | I've idled my map up to 2 hours :G |
| 13:10.47 | Mexa|Laptop | Worthless stuff, but people would buy it |
| 13:11.02 | Nash|Laptop | people buy TF2 hats |
| 13:11.08 | Mexa|Laptop | I know |
| 13:11.14 | Mexa|Laptop | TF2 is crazy |
| 13:11.19 | Mexa|Laptop | I realized |
| 13:11.20 | Nash|Laptop | fucking scrubs |
| 13:11.27 | Mexa|Laptop | Portal 2 have a store page ingame |
| 13:11.32 | Mexa|Laptop | Which you can customize your robots |
| 13:11.37 | Mexa|Laptop | for multiplayer |
| 13:11.42 | Nash|Laptop | pay for 0s and 1s. |
| 13:11.57 | Mexa|Laptop | It costs too.. so yeah, worthless stuff but people will buy that too |
| 13:12.15 | Nash|Laptop | people buy gifts on facebook |
| 13:12.37 | Mexa|Laptop | with facebook points though, yes? |
| 13:12.37 | Nash|Laptop | Send a picture of a cake or whatever. |
| 13:13.18 | Nash|Laptop | people are stupid, irrational, unpragmatic money wasting fuckers |
| 13:13.26 | Nash|Laptop | kill 'em all I say |
| 13:13.34 | Mexa|Laptop | Bleh, most of what you see at facebook just gets you to a lame survey scam anyway. |
| 13:13.54 | Nash|Laptop | kill all humans |
| 13:14.01 | Mexa|Laptop | "Horrible prank gone wrong. A MUST SEE!!!!!" |
| 13:14.11 | Mexa|Laptop | Click like to spam this to all your contacts¨ |
| 13:14.22 | Mexa|Laptop | And to give scammers survey monet. |
| 13:14.25 | Mexa|Laptop | *money |
| 13:15.00 | grim001_ | call them scammers, but they are the reason that facebook is free instead of a pay site. |
| 13:15.13 | grim001_ | along with all of the other websites on the internet that are useful. |
| 13:15.17 | Nash|Laptop | Fucking facebook. |
| 13:15.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dustin (Dustin_Wor@wsip-70-182-246-78.ks.ks.cox.net) |
| 13:15.40 | Nash|Laptop | I'd delete my account, but people expect you to have one. |
| 13:16.20 | Nash|Laptop | Another piece of shit you have to deal with. |
| 13:16.59 | Nash|Laptop | I had to get a cell phone, now you can't get rid of it. |
| 13:17.10 | Nash|Laptop | Same with facebook. |
| 13:18.07 | Helral|afk | meow? |
| 13:18.16 | Nash|Laptop | KITTUNS |
| 13:18.22 | Helral|afk | where? |
| 13:18.28 | Nash|Laptop | IN BAGS |
| 13:18.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster Stewox_ (563a22a6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.58.34.166) |
| 13:18.45 | Helral|afk | tears bags apart looking for kittuns |
| 13:19.07 | Nash|Laptop | http://kittuns.ytmnd.com D_D |
| 13:19.57 | Helral|afk | commands the kittuns to stay in the bags until a good prey comes walking by |
| 13:19.59 | Helral|afk | meows |
| 13:20.26 | Helral|afk | agrees with the kittuns that hu-mans are easy prey. |
| 13:20.35 | Nash|Laptop | KIIITTUUUNS IIN BAAAGS |
| 13:21.00 | Nash|Laptop | I do have such a lovely voice. |
| 13:21.03 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 13:21.05 | Helral|afk | you sitting outside in the sun with your laptop? |
| 13:21.11 | Nash|Laptop | no |
| 13:21.14 | Nash|Laptop | fucking sun |
| 13:21.17 | Nash|Laptop | it hurts |
| 13:21.24 | Helral|afk | you sitting outside in the shadow with your laptop? |
| 13:21.39 | Nash|Laptop | outside :/ |
| 13:21.46 | Helral|afk | imagines a burning Nash sitting in the sun with a laptop. |
| 13:21.48 | Helral|afk | meows |
| 13:22.18 | Nash|Laptop | Sun is bad for me. |
| 13:22.20 | Helral|afk | Nash, the hu-man torch, only while in the sun. |
| 13:22.26 | Nash|Laptop | I'm like a vampire. |
| 13:22.35 | Helral|afk | ahhh poor you ;p |
| 13:22.45 | Helral|afk | being like a vampire. you must be thirsty then ;p |
| 13:22.53 | Nash|Laptop | DO NOT EXPOSE TO DIRECT SUNLIGHT |
| 13:23.03 | Nash|Laptop | Makes my fucking skin fall off |
| 13:23.09 | Helral|afk | I'm a Colampire ;p |
| 13:23.34 | Nash|Laptop | I can peel off huge patches of dead skin after being in the sun |
| 13:23.41 | Nash|Laptop | and it stings like hell |
| 13:23.47 | Helral|afk | don't get burned then ;p |
| 13:24.36 | Nash|Laptop | I'm genetically predisposed towards basement dwelling D_D |
| 13:24.49 | Nash|Laptop | my eyes hurt from sun |
| 13:24.55 | Nash|Laptop | my skin turns red |
| 13:24.58 | Nash|Laptop | and then falls off |
| 13:25.28 | Nash|Laptop | plus the heat makes my scalp itch |
| 13:26.23 | Nash|Laptop | glad I don't live in a sunny place |
| 13:26.46 | Helral|Work | places a sunlight in the IRC channel |
| 13:27.09 | Helral|Work | shelters under an umbrella and looks at what Nash does. |
| 13:27.25 | Nash|Laptop | doesn't play along |
| 13:27.36 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 13:28.05 | Helral|Work | places a bag 5 meters from Nash. |
| 13:28.49 | Nash|Laptop | I don't care to mess around in /me :G |
| 13:28.59 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 13:29.10 | Nash|Laptop | It's only good for trout slapping |
| 13:29.30 | Helral|Work | slaps Nash|Laptop around with the skeleton of a trout. |
| 13:29.38 | Nash|Laptop | if you want to highlight people |
| 13:29.44 | Helral|Work | like that? ;p |
| 13:30.00 | Nash|Laptop | maybe? |
| 13:31.18 | Mexa|Laptop | [15:15] <grim001_> call them scammers, but they are the reason that facebook is free instead of a pay site. |
| 13:31.19 | Mexa|Laptop | what? |
| 13:31.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster JManV|Work (63594a96@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.89.74.150) |
| 13:31.28 | Mexa|Laptop | No, they are not a reason why facebook is free |
| 13:31.37 | Mexa|Laptop | They are not even affiliated with facebook |
| 13:31.56 | Nash|Laptop | they should make facebook a pay site |
| 13:31.59 | grim001_ | uhh, facebook costs money to run. facebook makes all of its money from those advertisements. people don't buy advertisements unless they can earn money for doing so. |
| 13:32.21 | Nash|Laptop | that way people will stop using it |
| 13:32.21 | Mexa|Laptop | What advertisements=? |
| 13:32.21 | Mexa|Laptop | People scamming on other sites, with surveys? |
| 13:32.27 | Dustin | Oh hi |
| 13:32.32 | grim001_ | I assumed you were talking about the ads on the right side, which often lead to scammy shit. |
| 13:32.37 | Mexa|Laptop | no |
| 13:32.55 | Mexa|Laptop | Not those. |
| 13:34.01 | Nash|Laptop | Facebook is full of bullshit self-promotion, attention whoring, pointless spam and ads |
| 13:34.14 | Nash|Laptop | Good thing that stays free! |
| 13:34.18 | Mexa|Laptop | http://vimeo.com/22439234 kewlt |
| 13:34.33 | Nash|Laptop | What would I do without it? :G |
| 13:39.04 | Dustin | I like facebook |
| 13:41.13 | Mexa|Laptop | I have no problem with fb in general either |
| 13:41.39 | Nash|Laptop | the concept is fine, but people make it crappy |
| 13:41.57 | Nash|Laptop | and all those facebook games |
| 13:41.59 | Mexa|Laptop | The spamming just gets me.. |
| 13:42.03 | SentryIII | Let's put all our personal information on the internet. |
| 13:42.17 | Nash|Laptop | no, let's not |
| 13:42.28 | SentryIII | We should. |
| 13:42.29 | Mexa|Laptop | Your personal information is already on the internet, with or without facebook |
| 13:42.36 | Mexa|Laptop | What's the big deal? |
| 13:42.36 | SentryIII | All the cool people are doing it. |
| 13:42.48 | SentryIII | Let's make it easier to access. |
| 13:42.54 | SentryIII | Put it all in one place. |
| 13:43.12 | grim001_ | personalized advertising is not the great evil. |
| 13:43.13 | Dustin | I already did |
| 13:43.22 | Dustin | And I'm fine |
| 13:43.25 | Dustin | What's the big deal |
| 13:43.27 | Mexa|Laptop | ^ |
| 13:43.28 | Nash|Laptop | having a place where you can upload pictures and tag friends is fine, just not when FB gets copyright of pictures and pretty much anyone can see them if people have shitty privacy settings |
| 13:43.32 | grim001_ | would you rather see random spam, or spam that has at least a chance to be relevant to you? |
| 13:43.48 | Nash|Laptop | neither |
| 13:43.58 | Nash|Laptop | they are both equally useless |
| 13:44.00 | Dustin | They have privacy options in place, it's your own fault if you don't use them |
| 13:44.25 | Nash|Laptop | it's not my fault if others don't when they upload pictures |
| 13:44.31 | grim001_ | yeah... that's like saying you don't want ads on TV... if everyone managed to turn them off, there would be no more TV. |
| 13:44.36 | SentryIII | I've already had a couple death threats against me... :| |
| 13:44.42 | Nash|Laptop | I want a private facebook |
| 13:44.44 | Mexa|Laptop | lol |
| 13:44.49 | Nash|Laptop | for only friends |
| 13:44.51 | Dustin | Dont piss people off then :| |
| 13:44.57 | Mexa|Laptop | Sentry, you don't gain death treats without a reason |
| 13:45.00 | Nash|Laptop | with no retarded games and shit |
| 13:45.14 | grim001_ | nash, it sounds like you want someone to run and operate this website as a charity service for you... |
| 13:45.26 | grim001_ | maybe you should create it yourself if you want no ads at all? |
| 13:45.26 | Nash|Laptop | Just a place to upload pictures from events and stuff. |
| 13:45.48 | SentryIII | One of them was because they didn't like how I sound in my videos... |
| 13:45.56 | SentryIII | The other was from wc3c |
| 13:46.05 | Mexa|Laptop | Youtube trolls are trolls |
| 13:46.14 | Nash|Laptop | I could do the coding, sure, but I'd have to get others to use it. |
| 13:46.24 | Dustin | Troll Death Threat != death threat |
| 13:46.33 | grim001_ | Nash: you'd better not advertise it in any way or you'd be a hypocrite. |
| 13:46.35 | SentryIII | You never really know with the internet |
| 13:46.53 | Dustin | You always know with the internet |
| 13:46.58 | SentryIII | Some people have gone through the trouble of finding other people in real life and attacking them |
| 13:47.06 | Dustin | Bunch if 9 year olds acting tough |
| 13:47.08 | Nash|Laptop | why would I advertise an internal for friends only site D_D |
| 13:47.27 | Mexa|Laptop | The risk will always be there |
| 13:47.32 | Mexa|Laptop | But the risk is slim to none. |
| 13:47.46 | SentryIII | Thats why you don't make it easier |
| 13:47.54 | grim001_ | advertising it to your targeted demographic (i.e. your friends)... not allowed. |
| 13:47.56 | Mexa|Laptop | Unless you don't behave. |
| 13:47.58 | grim001_ | just hope they find it on their own. |
| 13:48.07 | Mexa|Laptop | Sentry, no I make it a thing to ignore |
| 13:48.30 | Nash|Laptop | fine, continue to be asinine |
| 13:49.09 | SentryIII | There a difference between a troll and someone kicking down your door |
| 13:49.34 | Nash|Laptop | unless a troll is kicking down your door? |
| 13:49.43 | Dustin | Yeah because that happens SOOOO often |
| 13:49.47 | SentryIII | Haters gonna hate, psychopaths need to be dealt with |
| 13:49.49 | Mexa|Laptop | And unless you seriosuly made something you shouldn't do, no one is gonig to kick your door. |
| 13:49.50 | grim001_ | dont utilize your knowledge of your friends' personal information to conduct a guerrilla advertising campaign through word of mouth targeted at your demographic to promote your website. |
| 13:49.53 | Mexa|Laptop | Not from the internet |
| 13:50.25 | SentryIII | The frequency of it happening doesnt matter. Once instance is all it takes to fuck you up |
| 13:50.28 | grim001_ | i hear so many people whining about advertising. i never hear anyone thanking the advertisers for making tons of things free that would otherwise be unsustainable or subscription-based. |
| 13:50.41 | Dustin | Sentry, buy a gun and stop being a pussy tbh |
| 13:50.42 | grim001_ | thank you, advertisers. |
| 13:50.54 | Nash|Laptop | fuck you, advertisers |
| 13:50.57 | Nash|Laptop | die in a fire |
| 13:51.00 | SentryIII | Unfortunately I live in Canada... |
| 13:51.13 | Mexa|Laptop | I thank advertising, but I can't say I like them:P |
| 13:51.26 | SentryIII | If I guy firebombs my house, and I shoot at him, I end up with a harsher sentence |
| 13:51.31 | grim001_ | nash: would you pay a subscription free to get ads turned off at each of your favorite websites? if not, then you're an hypocrite. |
| 13:51.34 | SentryIII | *a |
| 13:51.47 | Dustin | That's your fault for living in Canada then |
| 13:51.58 | Nash|Laptop | No I just adblock. |
| 13:52.04 | SentryIII | Yep. Definitely |
| 13:52.14 | Dustin | Also, don't put personal info on the internet if you're scared of crazys |
| 13:52.22 | grim001_ | nash: it would be the same thing if everyone adblocked. the sustainability is adblocking is based around the concept that only some people do it. |
| 13:52.23 | Dustin | Case Closed |
| 13:52.32 | SentryIII | Well, that's what I've been saying this whole time. |
| 13:52.33 | Dustin | But for the people in the real world, it'll be ok |
| 13:52.39 | Nash|Laptop | Oh well, don't care. |
| 13:52.55 | Nash|Laptop | I can find other sites to dick around on. |
| 13:53.05 | Nash|Laptop | Or maybe do something more productive even. |
| 13:53.12 | grim001_ | Nash: if you cant be bothered to give a fuck and think it through, then don't attempt to make proclamations as to how other people should or shouldn't conduct business. |
| 13:54.01 | Nash|Laptop | qq |
| 13:54.04 | SentryIII | Lots of people just put up their personal info on a publicly accessable website without a second thought |
| 13:54.22 | Dustin | And they don't get killed |
| 13:54.24 | SentryIII | I've seen ppl's cell numbers on facebook pages |
| 13:54.31 | Dustin | Yeah, mines on there |
| 13:54.37 | SentryIII | >.< |
| 13:54.48 | Dustin | Want to know how many problems I've had? |
| 13:54.49 | Dustin | 0 |
| 13:54.50 | Dustin | Also |
| 13:54.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster La0fer (~Laofers1@64.120.233.114) |
| 13:54.59 | SentryIII | Well I'm happy for you. |
| 13:55.09 | Dustin | I did a Podcast for a couple thousand people |
| 13:55.11 | Dustin | Using my real name |
| 13:55.18 | Dustin | And added people to my public facebook friends lisk |
| 13:55.23 | Dustin | With all my personal info on it |
| 13:55.31 | Dustin | Still nothing |
| 13:55.36 | Dustin | You're to paranoid tbh. |
| 13:55.44 | Nash|Laptop | irrational fear |
| 13:56.08 | Dustin | ProTip: Don't be a dick and people won't kick in your door |
| 13:56.14 | SentryIII | I still follow common sense safety precautions from over a decade ago |
| 13:56.33 | Nash|Laptop | people fear being stabbed in dark alleys and swine flu or whatever |
| 13:56.47 | Nash|Laptop | there are much more dangerous things we do every day |
| 13:56.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zoxc (Zoxc@ti0128a380-dhcp0468.bb.online.no) |
| 13:56.58 | Nash|Laptop | which never seem to bother such people |
| 13:57.27 | grim001_ | I just watched the video of Photon Cycles on the front page of mapster, it looks pretty awesome |
| 13:57.33 | Dustin | Pissing off some random douche on the internet who has access to my cell phone is the last thing on my shit that could kill me today list |
| 13:57.58 | Nash|Laptop | hit by a car maybe |
| 13:58.08 | Nash|Laptop | killed by internet tough guy, no |
| 13:58.09 | Dustin | Yeah Grim, I want to play it but havent had time :( |
| 13:58.19 | SentryIII | I'm just saying it odd to put personal information where anyone can access it |
| 13:59.00 | JManV|Work | photon cycles is really awesome |
| 13:59.06 | SentryIII | What's next? Are people gonna put passwords on their facebook for everyone to see? |
| 13:59.21 | Nash|Laptop | sure, but you're more likely to attract trolls who hack your facebok and post goatse than axe murderers |
| 13:59.26 | Dustin | Yeah because my phone number is the same as a password... |
| 14:00.17 | Dustin | Because Im a social person and have a social life, I can't be bothered giving every person I meet at a party my address myself |
| 14:00.20 | SentryIII | So you don't think it's stupid to put sensitive information in a place where anyone can access it? |
| 14:00.38 | Dustin | How is that sensitive information? |
| 14:00.48 | Nash|Laptop | people can find out my number anyway |
| 14:00.51 | Dustin | They know where I live, ohh nooooo |
| 14:00.53 | Mexa|Laptop | yellow pages anyone? |
| 14:01.01 | Dustin | They have my phone number, ohhh nooo phone book |
| 14:01.01 | Nash|Laptop | as long as they know my name |
| 14:01.03 | Nash|Laptop | and where I live |
| 14:01.20 | Nash|Laptop | And my name is unique D_D |
| 14:01.26 | Dustin | If they want to come to my house and try to stab me, let them, I've got a bat with their name on it |
| 14:02.01 | Dustin | If you're a scrawny dude who can't defend himself then I dont suggest you put your address on facebook and troll people |
| 14:02.07 | SentryIII | Well time have certainly changed when it comes to giving out this kind of information |
| 14:02.14 | grim001_ | Seeing a decent map like Photon Cycles increases my motivation to get Cosmos working sometime soon, so that people making decent maps won't have to write shitty Galaxy code... |
| 14:02.27 | SentryIII | I don't have a Facebook account |
| 14:02.34 | SentryIII | I only give out my contact info to people I know |
| 14:03.05 | Nash|Laptop | putting address on facebook or not is moot since people can find it anyway if they know my name, which they do if they're on my facebook page |
| 14:03.13 | Nash|Laptop | So what does it matter D_D |
| 14:03.17 | Dustin | ^ |
| 14:03.22 | Dustin | It doesn't he's just paranoid |
| 14:03.47 | SentryIII | Yep. Times have definitely changed |
| 14:04.03 | Nash|Laptop | Indeed. |
| 14:04.07 | SentryIII | Over a decade ago, I wouldn't be considered paranoid. I would be the guy with common sense. |
| 14:04.51 | SentryIII | All we had were ICQ numbers and email addresses |
| 14:05.01 | Nash|Laptop | And PHONE BOOKS. |
| 14:05.03 | Dustin | That's more dangerous then anything |
| 14:05.06 | Nash|Laptop | etc D_D |
| 14:05.12 | Dustin | Because you dont know anything about the person on the other line |
| 14:05.22 | Dustin | Could be some serial killer rapist |
| 14:05.26 | Nash|Laptop | OH PEOPLE WHO KNOW YOUR NAME CAN FIND YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND ADDRESS |
| 14:05.27 | SentryIII | You couldn't find someone's name or number form an email address or ICQ number |
| 14:05.30 | Dustin | And you dont even have their home address |
| 14:05.35 | Dustin | That's not safe |
| 14:05.35 | Nash|Laptop | BURN ALL PHONE BOOKS |
| 14:06.10 | Nash|Laptop | You are not making sense. |
| 14:06.11 | SentryIII | Unless they did something stupid like use their real name as their email addres or put it in their info in their ICQ account |
| 14:06.35 | Dustin | lol what |
| 14:06.47 | Nash|Laptop | yes, real name |
| 14:06.50 | Dustin | Unless they did something stupid like use their real name as their email addres <-- My email is my real name |
| 14:06.52 | SentryIII | Seriously, in the 90's no one ever put their personal info on the internet |
| 14:06.57 | Nash|Laptop | if you give people that.... |
| 14:07.09 | Dustin | Because it was the 90's people were internet retarded |
| 14:07.14 | JManV|Work | ICQ :P |
| 14:07.14 | Nash|Laptop | but the point with facebook is that PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE YOUR REAL NAME |
| 14:07.18 | SentryIII | That was considered common sense |
| 14:07.25 | Nash|Laptop | Geez. |
| 14:07.46 | Nash|Laptop | THEY HAVE YOUR NAME, THEY CAN FIND STUFF ABOUT YOU. |
| 14:08.13 | SentryIII | Well I'm talking about what changed between the 90's and now |
| 14:08.23 | SentryIII | And why are you talking in caps? are you mad or something? |
| 14:08.33 | Nash|Laptop | Because you're slow :/ |
| 14:08.55 | SentryIII | I'm explaining what we did in the 90's. |
| 14:09.00 | Mexa|Laptop | When you get yourself a company or is going to work for a company, your name is going to be revealed, no matter you like it or not |
| 14:09.01 | Dustin | People not being paranoid happened between the 90's and now |
| 14:09.07 | Mexa|Laptop | Which isnt even a big deal there either |
| 14:09.09 | SentryIII | Okay, rules relating to revealing personal information changed |
| 14:09.40 | Nash|Laptop | You don't need to give away your real name on the Internet. |
| 14:09.59 | SentryIII | Well you keep posting everything about yourself on the internet, I'll continue to not have a Facebook account |
| 14:10.00 | Nash|Laptop | But if you do, it doesn't matter if your address or phone number is on facebook or not. |
| 14:10.31 | Mexa|Laptop | Sentry, not trying to get you gain a fb account or anything |
| 14:10.42 | Mexa|Laptop | We're just telling you that you are taking it too exaggerated |
| 14:10.55 | SentryIII | I'm just explaining my side, I don't even know why this turned into an argument |
| 14:11.00 | Mexa|Laptop | :> |
| 14:11.09 | Nash|Laptop | You're just being stupid with this "facebook is the only source of personal info ever!!!". That's why. |
| 14:11.17 | Dustin | [09:10am] <SentryIII> Well you keep posting everything about yourself on the internet, I'll continue to not have a Facebook account <-- That's fine, Ill continue to not ever have a problem with it |
| 14:11.19 | Nash|Laptop | It's illogical. |
| 14:11.25 | SentryIII | I didn't say it was the only source. |
| 14:11.53 | Nash|Laptop | So if I have your name I can't find out stuff about you anywhere? |
| 14:11.58 | SentryIII | Why did this even turn into an argument? |
| 14:12.06 | SentryIII | I didn't say that either |
| 14:12.17 | Mexa|Laptop | Speaking of which... I would have enjoyed to find out how battle.net 2.0 would have really been with real-ids |
| 14:12.22 | Mexa|Laptop | Personally, I would be fine :v |
| 14:12.26 | Nash|Laptop | Thus Facebook or not, does not matter. |
| 14:12.31 | Nash|Laptop | QED |
| 14:12.37 | Nash|Laptop | Logic wins again. |
| 14:13.05 | SentryIII | Well good for you, post all the info you want |
| 14:13.10 | SentryIII | Its yours... do what you want with it |
| 14:13.14 | Mexa|Laptop | Now to something else. Food. |
| 14:13.22 | Mexa|Laptop | French fries and some eggs |
| 14:13.26 | Mexa|Laptop | and then Portal 2 |
| 14:13.29 | Mexa|Laptop | go me |
| 14:13.30 | Mexa|Laptop | ! |
| 14:13.41 | SentryIII | oh shit portal 2 is out |
| 14:13.48 | Mexa|Laptop | Yupyup |
| 14:13.52 | Mexa|Laptop | Since this morning |
| 14:14.00 | Nash|Laptop | Well all the info there is available anyway, and on other sites you don't even need to be my "friend" to find it. |
| 14:14.04 | SentryIII | still not gonna get it |
| 14:14.09 | Mexa|Laptop | lol |
| 14:14.14 | Nash|Laptop | So other sites are actually worse than Facebook. D_D |
| 14:14.16 | Mexa|Laptop | What a reversed response |
| 14:14.32 | Mexa|Laptop | Oh shit, portal 2 is out. Oh well, the hell with it :3 |
| 14:14.46 | Nash|Laptop | Mexaface |
| 14:14.49 | nodgene | AMG IT'S MEXA AND NASH |
| 14:14.55 | Mexa|Laptop | Nashface |
| 14:14.56 | SentryIII | well here's the problem I have with it |
| 14:14.59 | JademusDead | MAdness. |
| 14:15.01 | Nash|Laptop | you didn't accidentally eat your own laxative fries right? |
| 14:15.03 | Mexa|Laptop | AMG Hey nodface |
| 14:15.11 | nodgene | ;) |
| 14:15.15 | SentryIII | I got Portal 1 for $10, and only played it for around 2-3 hours |
| 14:15.25 | Mexa|Laptop | Nash, they only steal on the weekends |
| 14:15.33 | SentryIII | I think Portal 2 is gonna be pretty much the same stuff |
| 14:15.35 | Nash|Laptop | fyllehunger |
| 14:15.38 | nodgene | the campaign for portal 1 was like 7 hours long at most, you should have kept going :P |
| 14:15.49 | Mexa|Laptop | SentryIII, wow, you will miss alot |
| 14:16.04 | Mexa|Laptop | lol |
| 14:16.06 | Nash|Laptop | Portal was awesome and funny. |
| 14:16.08 | Mexa|Laptop | drunkenhunger huh |
| 14:16.15 | Dustin | Can't wait to go home and play some Portal 2 :D |
| 14:16.28 | Mexa|Laptop | yay:p |
| 14:16.38 | Mexa|Laptop | Hey JademusSreg |
| 14:16.41 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 14:16.41 | Mexa|Laptop | Wb |
| 14:16.45 | Mexa|Laptop | Or goodmorning |
| 14:16.45 | Nash|Laptop | Weekend food theft is committed by drunk people :G |
| 14:16.46 | SentryIII | Well, I mean I finished the campaign in 2-3 hours, and I haven't touched it since |
| 14:16.58 | JademusSreg | I need to make my coffee. brb |
| 14:16.59 | Mexa|Laptop | probably |
| 14:17.04 | Mexa|Laptop | Or just stupid ones in general |
| 14:17.06 | SentryIII | Is there really anything more than that? |
| 14:17.19 | SentryIII | I'd imagine Portal 2 is gonna be similar |
| 14:17.21 | Mexa|Laptop | Being alcoholtoxicated is not a valid reason to do whatever you want |
| 14:17.23 | Mexa|Laptop | <.< |
| 14:17.31 | SentryIII | So I'll wait until the price goes down |
| 14:17.38 | Nash|Laptop | It is to some people. |
| 14:17.40 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 14:17.51 | nodgene | They may think it is |
| 14:17.52 | nodgene | but courts don't buy that, heh. |
| 14:18.07 | Mexa|Laptop | SentryIII, the portal 2 campaign will give you some neat gameplay on about 10-12 hours |
| 14:18.18 | Mexa|Laptop | And them we have the coop mode |
| 14:18.20 | Nash|Laptop | For some people, having a valid reason to do what you want is the whole reason to get drunk. |
| 14:18.27 | Mexa|Laptop | As of what the reviews said |
| 14:18.48 | Mexa|Laptop | ign gave it a whopper. 9,5 |
| 14:18.57 | Mexa|Laptop | Metacritics say something similar |
| 14:19.01 | Nash|Laptop | I am not buying Portal 2 either. |
| 14:19.10 | Dustin | PORTAL 2 HAS CO-OP! |
| 14:19.11 | Dustin | :D |
| 14:19.11 | Nash|Laptop | Course I'm broke anyway. |
| 14:19.12 | SentryIII | What did they give Gears of War 2? |
| 14:19.15 | SentryIII | :> |
| 14:19.25 | SentryIII | Or how about Halo: Reach or CoD: BO? |
| 14:19.36 | SentryIII | I don't trust those reviews completely |
| 14:19.45 | Mexa|Laptop | You compare different genres |
| 14:19.49 | Mexa|Laptop | I'm not going to do that |
| 14:19.54 | Nash|Laptop | I don't trust anyone's opinion but my own. |
| 14:20.03 | Mexa|Laptop | And it's nit even the same reviewer, but you're right |
| 14:20.07 | SentryIII | I'm not really comparing anything |
| 14:20.07 | Mexa|Laptop | Reviews doesn't say much |
| 14:20.14 | Mexa|Laptop | Much metacritics is a collection of them |
| 14:20.15 | nodgene | The dark knight soundtrack to triggering; how it should be. |
| 14:20.22 | Mexa|Laptop | So I pretty much trust them |
| 14:20.53 | Nash|Laptop | You can't trust anything that says "this is good", because it's subjective. |
| 14:20.53 | Mexa|Laptop | Though, not leading to me getting all games that get good score. |
| 14:21.04 | Mexa|Laptop | I know |
| 14:21.04 | Nash|Laptop | You might not enjoy the same things. |
| 14:21.12 | Mexa|Laptop | But you can trust objective reviews |
| 14:21.30 | Dustin | Portal 1 was the best game in the orangebox |
| 14:21.36 | Nash|Laptop | So I never pay attention to recommendations, reviews or whatever. |
| 14:21.37 | SentryIII | I trust independent reviewers a lot more |
| 14:21.53 | Mexa|Laptop | Sentry, so why don't you trust ign? |
| 14:21.57 | Mexa|Laptop | It's one man article |
| 14:21.58 | burne- | 00:00:07.00 WARNING: More than one CActorUnit persisting in the same unit scope: |
| 14:21.59 | Mexa|Laptop | lol |
| 14:22.03 | burne- | i wonder what the fuck causes that |
| 14:22.15 | Mexa|Laptop | Oh wait |
| 14:22.21 | Mexa|Laptop | Whatever |
| 14:22.33 | Nash|Laptop | A unit with 2 unit actors? :G |
| 14:22.55 | SentryIII | Indie game reviewers review games because they wanna give their opinion on it after they play the entire game. Big sites like IGN play the game for a few hours, write the review, then call it a day |
| 14:23.26 | burne- | lol how is that suppose to be possible :D |
| 14:23.26 | burne- | fucking editor |
| 14:23.38 | Mexa|Laptop | lol |
| 14:23.40 | burne- | im doing just normal stuff and get that message |
| 14:23.41 | Mexa|Laptop | You don't know that |
| 14:23.55 | SentryIII | To be fair though, maybe those few hours is all that's needed for some games, but the indie reviewer community gives more thorough reviews |
| 14:23.58 | Nash|Laptop | Only good reviewer is Yahtzee, but I don't watch ZeroPunctuation for game recommendations :P |
| 14:24.05 | Nash|Laptop | It's just funny. |
| 14:24.19 | Mexa|Laptop | I may admit with you though, Portal 2 may be not worth the price right now. |
| 14:24.36 | nodgene | does anyone recall what value modifies the AOE of the mothership cloak ability? And where it is? I've looked but not notice anything on first glance. |
| 14:24.37 | Nash|Laptop | especially if the cake is a lie |
| 14:24.50 | Mexa|Laptop | But to be subjective, whatever, I personally don't think it has been a letdown so far |
| 14:24.54 | SentryIII | I'd buy it once it goes down to $10, because I really do like the mechanics of portal |
| 14:25.17 | SentryIII | I'm just disappointed with its lack of replayability |
| 14:25.24 | SentryIII | Maybe it has something more in Portal 2 |
| 14:25.32 | SentryIII | But I'm gonna wait |
| 14:25.39 | Mexa|Laptop | DLC hopefully. |
| 14:25.48 | SentryIII | Did Portal 1 have DLC? |
| 14:25.51 | Mexa|Laptop | no. |
| 14:25.57 | SentryIII | :| |
| 14:26.00 | Mexa|Laptop | oh |
| 14:26.01 | Mexa|Laptop | yes |
| 14:26.02 | Mexa|Laptop | it did |
| 14:26.05 | Mexa|Laptop | My bad |
| 14:26.08 | Dustin | Co-OP |
| 14:26.12 | Mexa|Laptop | not the co-op |
| 14:26.19 | Dustin | Huh |
| 14:26.20 | SentryIII | If it did, I never heard of it |
| 14:26.22 | Mexa|Laptop | huh |
| 14:26.23 | Mexa|Laptop | nvm |
| 14:26.27 | Dustin | Im just saying portal 2 has co-op |
| 14:26.29 | Mexa|Laptop | Sentry, then you missed it |
| 14:26.34 | Dustin | And that alone is worth buying it |
| 14:26.36 | Mexa|Laptop | ah yeah, nvm me Dustin :) |
| 14:27.05 | SentryIII | Right now, the only games I've been playing are Killing Floor, L4D2, and SC2. |
| 14:27.11 | Mexa|Laptop | Sentry, it had DLC content which raised the difficulty bar on several levels |
| 14:27.22 | Mexa|Laptop | Which you played after finishing the game |
| 14:27.28 | Nash|Laptop | I wouldn't buy a game for coop. I don't know any real PC gamers. |
| 14:27.31 | SentryIII | That's it? |
| 14:27.41 | Mexa|Laptop | DLC is DLC |
| 14:27.53 | Mexa|Laptop | 9 levels remade? |
| 14:27.58 | Nash|Laptop | That wasn't DLC |
| 14:28.02 | Mexa|Laptop | yes it was |
| 14:28.08 | Nash|Laptop | NEGATORY |
| 14:28.11 | Mexa|Laptop | POSITORY |
| 14:28.11 | SentryIII | That' doesn't sound like DLC |
| 14:28.17 | Nash|Laptop | I played those advanced levels. |
| 14:28.26 | Mexa|Laptop | yes |
| 14:28.29 | Nash|Laptop | They were in the fuckin Orange Box. |
| 14:28.29 | Mexa|Laptop | so? |
| 14:28.44 | Mexa|Laptop | they were not originally released with portal |
| 14:28.53 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 14:29.05 | Mexa|Laptop | So.. no |
| 14:29.15 | Mexa|Laptop | Depends on your definition of DLC |
| 14:29.16 | syltman | JademusSreg hey |
| 14:29.16 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 14:29.21 | Mexa|Laptop | DLC could be a patch |
| 14:29.23 | Mexa|Laptop | simple. |
| 14:29.26 | JademusSreg | Hi Sylt. |
| 14:29.55 | Nash|Laptop | Patch is not DLC |
| 14:30.15 | syltman | JademusSreg, got an idea how to solve the issue? |
| 14:30.21 | Mexa|Laptop | trine was patched to vs 1.12 to 1.13. In the same time they added a new level |
| 14:30.25 | JademusSreg | I'm opening the editor. =) |
| 14:30.28 | Mexa|Laptop | = DLC |
| 14:30.32 | Nash|Laptop | negative |
| 14:30.35 | Mexa|Laptop | positive |
| 14:30.48 | nodgene | DO YOU PERHAPS KNOW WHERE THE ATTRIBUTE THAT CHANGES THE AOE OF THE MOTHERSHIP CLOAK IS HIDDEN?! |
| 14:30.57 | syltman | remember what the problem was? |
| 14:31.13 | Nash|Laptop | IN THE CLOSET!!!! |
| 14:31.27 | SentryIII | Wait a minute... |
| 14:31.40 | SentryIII | Wasn't DLC a term that originated on consoles? |
| 14:31.45 | nodgene | Nash, that's beyond unhelpful :P |
| 14:31.56 | nodgene | probabaly Sentry |
| 14:32.06 | Nash|Laptop | DLC is additional content you choose to download and add |
| 14:32.20 | Nash|Laptop | Not necessarily pay for, though. |
| 14:32.54 | SentryIII | The v3.20 patch for Quake 2 added the CTF game mode and maps for it |
| 14:33.02 | Mexa|Laptop | Who said it had anything to do with paying? |
| 14:33.03 | SentryIII | How I remembered that is not important |
| 14:33.06 | SentryIII | O.o |
| 14:33.08 | Nash|Laptop | Game updates might add things but that don't make them DLCs. |
| 14:33.11 | grim001_ | today I promise to work on Cosmos for at least 4 hours. |
| 14:33.24 | Mexa|Laptop | Thet oficially called it DLC |
| 14:33.34 | SentryIII | Damn consoles for confusing me |
| 14:33.37 | Mexa|Laptop | Discussion ended. |
| 14:33.45 | Mexa|Laptop | *officially |
| 14:33.50 | SentryIII | Damn, it's official. |
| 14:33.51 | SentryIII | Sure showed me |
| 14:33.52 | Nash|Laptop | How official! |
| 14:34.16 | Nash|Laptop | ALL HAIL VALVE, SHAPER OF LANGUAGES |
| 14:34.17 | Mexa|Laptop | inputs eggs. |
| 14:34.42 | JademusSreg | Hi grim |
| 14:35.02 | Mexa|Laptop | grim001_, great! |
| 14:35.06 | nodgene | http://www.prguitarman.com/index.php?id=348 |
| 14:35.34 | grim001_ | I've been slacking for the last couple days. |
| 14:36.04 | Mexa|Laptop | mjaumjau dududud. |
| 14:36.09 | JademusSreg | No worries. |
| 14:38.28 | Nash|Laptop | kittuns |
| 14:38.53 | Dustin | Grim |
| 14:39.06 | Dustin | You ever finish your WC3 Physics system? |
| 14:39.43 | grim001_ | depends on what you mean by "finished" |
| 14:39.58 | grim001_ | I considered it to have tons of potential features. |
| 14:40.12 | grim001_ | A physics engine by itself is not very useful. |
| 14:40.34 | grim001_ | For example, I was developing a whole library dealing with aiming projectiles. |
| 14:40.47 | grim001_ | But the physics itself was done. |
| 14:40.58 | Mexa|Laptop | HindyHat finished SEE for physics, didn't he? |
| 14:41.35 | Mexa|Laptop | Never saw any other <.< |
| 14:41.49 | grim001_ | SEE was a very basic version of my engine that used a similar collision checking routine (because I shared my approach with hindy there) |
| 14:41.56 | grim001_ | I never saw anyone use it for a game. |
| 14:43.33 | Mexa|Laptop | Ah |
| 14:43.51 | grim001_ | my engine will be ported to SC2 once Cosmos is advanced enough to handle it. |
| 14:43.58 | Dustin | Good |
| 14:44.07 | Dustin | Cause Im fuckign sick of using the Data Editor for projectiles |
| 14:44.12 | Mexa|Laptop | Yeah, never saw any physics engine in wc3 in a serious map tbh. |
| 14:44.34 | Mexa|Laptop | Might have missed a few ones out I guess. |
| 14:44.59 | Dustin | Cause I was waiting till grim released his to use in my map :P |
| 14:45.19 | Mexa|Laptop | oh .-. |
| 14:45.50 | Mexa|Laptop | Hey Sentry, do you follow the TSL3? |
| 14:45.56 | syltman | Mexa me and my friends map had a cool one |
| 14:46.07 | Mexa|Laptop | really? |
| 14:46.08 | syltman | http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/maps-564/diablo-iii-1-0b-173983/?prev=search%3DDiablo%25203%26d%3Dlist%26r%3D20 |
| 14:46.25 | SentryIII | I haven't really been following tournaments.. |
| 14:46.31 | SentryIII | Too busy with a lot of other stuff |
| 14:46.32 | syltman | not perhaps the most original map but it was tons of fun making and playing it |
| 14:47.22 | Mexa|Laptop | Aye, I remember that one |
| 14:47.38 | Dustin | Shit was so much easier in WC3 |
| 14:47.42 | JademusSreg | Sylt, it can definitely be done via triggers. I'm not getting it to work either. |
| 14:47.46 | Mexa|Laptop | Was it a mimic of the wc3 movement of projectiles? |
| 14:47.55 | JademusSreg | But I'll keep at it for a bit. |
| 14:48.00 | SentryIII | I tend to watch only rounds-of-8 and later when I have time. |
| 14:48.08 | Mexa|Laptop | ah |
| 14:48.19 | Mexa|Laptop | Yeah, they are up now on the vod thread Sentry |
| 14:49.18 | SentryIII | Right now I'm working my ass off trying to finish a video as quickly as possibly |
| 14:49.33 | SentryIII | And apparently working my ass off includes talking in chat :) |
| 14:49.41 | Helral|afk | meow |
| 14:50.28 | Kueken | ! |
| 14:50.48 | Helral|afk | spots a chicken. |
| 14:50.56 | Kueken | hides |
| 14:51.25 | Helral|Work | spots a "Kueken" which is attempting to hide at the wrong side of the pillar. |
| 14:51.40 | Helral|afk | meows |
| 14:51.48 | Kueken | thinks he would not be THAT stupid |
| 14:51.50 | Helral|Work | hears meowing from the other side of the pillar |
| 14:51.59 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 14:52.10 | Kueken | is surrounded by evil kittUns |
| 14:52.44 | Helral|Work | used "kage bunshin no jutsu" *cough rip cough off cough* |
| 14:53.24 | Kueken | uses is blood-line limit |
| 14:53.32 | JademusSreg | Naruto. D= |
| 14:53.33 | Kueken | MOMOMOMONSTERCHICKEN!!! |
| 14:53.49 | Helral|Work | pooofsss |
| 14:54.08 | Kueken | damn only got one of em |
| 14:54.11 | Helral|afk | uses meowsengan. |
| 14:54.29 | Kueken | loses every single feather |
| 14:54.39 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 14:54.49 | Kueken | :/ |
| 14:54.54 | Kueken | look what you did |
| 14:54.55 | Helral|afk | is tired of playing the the "Kueken" and runs off home for dinner |
| 14:54.59 | Kueken | child pron |
| 14:55.09 | Kueken | naked kueken |
| 14:55.27 | Nash|Laptop | naked cock |
| 14:55.30 | Nash|Laptop | D: |
| 14:55.43 | Kueken | not kuken -.- |
| 14:56.37 | Nash|Laptop | cock is a type of domesticated bird too D_D |
| 14:56.52 | Nash|Laptop | of the same species |
| 14:59.23 | JademusSreg | Sorry Sylt. I couldn't figure it out. At least it can be triggered. |
| 14:59.42 | syltman | yah |
| 14:59.47 | Mexa|Laptop | Durr... it's weird, but Britneys new song is actually good :v |
| 14:59.54 | syltman | perhaps something worth reporting to blizz... somehow |
| 14:59.54 | Nash|Laptop | NO |
| 14:59.55 | Mexa|Laptop | And I don't really want to like it, but I do. |
| 14:59.58 | JademusSreg | Who? |
| 15:00.15 | Nash|Laptop | BRITNEY IS NEVER GOOD |
| 15:00.15 | Nash|Laptop | EVER |
| 15:00.19 | Mexa|Laptop | Also |
| 15:00.28 | Mexa|Laptop | one of them has dubstep |
| 15:00.29 | SentryIII | The chubby chick? |
| 15:00.34 | syltman | thanks for trying! |
| 15:00.44 | SentryIII | Err... I shouldn't say "chubby" |
| 15:00.49 | SentryIII | More like "normal-looking" |
| 15:00.50 | Mexa|Laptop | chubby? |
| 15:00.51 | SentryIII | :> |
| 15:01.04 | Mexa|Laptop | Britney Spears chubby? |
| 15:01.05 | Mexa|Laptop | hmm |
| 15:01.12 | Mexa|Laptop | Rebecca Black chubby? |
| 15:01.14 | SentryIII | It was during one of the VMAs I think |
| 15:01.15 | Mexa|Laptop | hmm |
| 15:01.43 | Mexa|Laptop | oh |
| 15:01.52 | Mexa|Laptop | Nashface, what about Gaga? |
| 15:01.54 | Mexa|Laptop | lol |
| 15:01.58 | SentryIII | She performed live, and she was more meatier for a celeb |
| 15:01.59 | Nash|Laptop | garbage |
| 15:02.03 | Mexa|Laptop | :> |
| 15:02.07 | Mexa|Laptop | What about |
| 15:02.10 | Nash|Laptop | producer written vacuous garbage |
| 15:02.15 | Mexa|Laptop | non metal? |
| 15:02.21 | SentryIII | I like Yoko Kanno :o |
| 15:02.36 | Nash|Laptop | non metal? |
| 15:02.55 | Mexa|Laptop | never mind |
| 15:03.13 | Mexa|Laptop | Yoko Kanno was pretty nice actually |
| 15:03.18 | Mexa|Laptop | Just youtub'd |
| 15:03.18 | Mexa|Laptop | :D |
| 15:03.36 | Mexa|Laptop | Nash, what about super eurobeat? |
| 15:03.41 | SentryIII | It's relaxing |
| 15:03.47 | Nash|Laptop | never heard of it |
| 15:03.52 | Mexa|Laptop | Really? |
| 15:04.07 | Nash|Laptop | Why would I have? |
| 15:04.16 | SentryIII | I actually like some of the music thw members have made. |
| 15:04.57 | Mexa|Laptop | The Gigantosaur made epic music |
| 15:05.06 | Mexa|Laptop | I forgot the name of him |
| 15:05.08 | Mexa|Laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.25 | SentryIII | I've used some of WherewolfTherewolf's music in my videos |
| 15:05.26 | Nash|Laptop | I only listen to punk |
| 15:05.47 | Mexa|Laptop | TheDarkGiganotosaur was it |
| 15:05.59 | Mexa|Laptop | Wherewolf makes some neat music too |
| 15:06.05 | Mexa|Laptop | Punk huh |
| 15:06.14 | SentryIII | I like a lot of genres of music |
| 15:06.44 | SentryIII | I think it's best for me to list the music I don't like: country |
| 15:06.58 | Nash|Laptop | Most music on the radio is crap love songs and other intellectually vapid crap. |
| 15:07.01 | Nash|Laptop | Or BLING BLING |
| 15:07.31 | SentryIII | I do like some rap songs, but most of it is just garbage |
| 15:07.44 | SentryIII | I'll at least listen to a song once to see if I like it |
| 15:07.46 | Nash|Laptop | Rap -> Public Enemy |
| 15:07.51 | Nash|Laptop | or something |
| 15:07.54 | Mexa|Laptop | I could listen to pretty much everything |
| 15:08.04 | Mexa|Laptop | Everything but metal and any kind of metal |
| 15:08.14 | SentryIII | But I really don't like country |
| 15:08.28 | Nash|Laptop | Fucking 50 Cent is just a brainless douche selling a moronic lifestyle. |
| 15:08.47 | Mexa|Laptop | But... autotune is getting on my nerves these days |
| 15:08.47 | SentryIII | I'll show respect to people like Johnny Cash, but I'm not gonna listen to his music if I don't have to |
| 15:09.27 | SentryIII | Would you play the game starring 50 Cent? |
| 15:09.32 | SentryIII | Forget what it's called |
| 15:09.34 | Nash|Laptop | I listen to Anti-Flag, NOFX, The Clash, Propagandhi, Rage Against, etc |
| 15:09.35 | SentryIII | It even had a sequel |
| 15:09.39 | SentryIII | o.o |
| 15:10.06 | Nash|Laptop | I'd rather play a Hello Kitty game. |
| 15:10.19 | SentryIII | Fuck yeah Hello Kitty. |
| 15:10.59 | SentryIII | I just looked at my Winamp playlist |
| 15:11.03 | Guest29439 | greetings all |
| 15:11.05 | SentryIII | I have no domestic artists |
| 15:11.23 | Nash|Laptop | Music without expresion of something important, like politics, social commentary etc is bleh. |
| 15:11.39 | JademusSreg | You can't buy sedition. It's all a part of normative commercial culture. =D |
| 15:12.42 | Mexa|Laptop | Nash, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3nF-s1ZxHk super eurobeat example |
| 15:12.45 | SentryIII | Most of my list is game OSTs |
| 15:13.15 | Mexa|Laptop | The synths and the case of "dampighet" are normal for this genre |
| 15:13.16 | Mexa|Laptop | lol |
| 15:13.21 | Nash|Laptop | CBA to update flash |
| 15:13.25 | SentryIII | Jets'n'Guns is how I found out about Machinae Supremacy |
| 15:13.34 | Nash|Laptop | It probably sucks anyway |
| 15:13.37 | Nash|Laptop | most things do |
| 15:13.50 | Mexa|Laptop | I'll leave that up to you |
| 15:14.19 | Mexa|Laptop | I can't help to like super eurobeat too... |
| 15:14.36 | Mexa|Laptop | and game music |
| 15:14.56 | Nash|Laptop | game music is like elevator music |
| 15:15.11 | SentryIII | Most of it is |
| 15:15.20 | Nash|Laptop | it's in the background, best if you don't really hear it |
| 15:15.30 | Mexa|Laptop | what |
| 15:15.31 | SentryIII | Some of them actually sound really good though |
| 15:15.43 | Mexa|Laptop | I disagreed nash |
| 15:15.55 | Mexa|Laptop | I could put on a game ost and listen to it |
| 15:16.06 | Mexa|Laptop | In which case I also notice how good it is ingame. |
| 15:16.35 | Mexa|Laptop | trine, smb, braid, rayman 2 |
| 15:16.36 | SentryIII | Jets'n'Guns OST is a free DL :D |
| 15:16.37 | Mexa|Laptop | :D |
| 15:16.40 | Vailreth | hell i have the music from games like Donkey Kong Country 2 and thers games can have epic music and they help make the game entertaining |
| 15:17.16 | Mexa|Laptop | yup |
| 15:17.16 | Nash|Laptop | game music, it's just a heap of notes |
| 15:17.22 | Nash|Laptop | and it's generally fucking slow |
| 15:17.26 | Mexa|Laptop | lol |
| 15:17.31 | Mexa|Laptop | taste is taste |
| 15:17.37 | SentryIII | Slow? |
| 15:17.42 | Mexa|Laptop | You go back to your punk nashface |
| 15:17.45 | Mexa|Laptop | :) |
| 15:17.51 | SentryIII | Damn.. the music I have is fast-paced |
| 15:17.58 | burne- | uaaaah |
| 15:18.00 | burne- | cant upload my map |
| 15:18.08 | burne- | gets stuck on 79% |
| 15:19.12 | SentryIII | I have some of the Touhou soundtracks |
| 15:19.16 | Mexa|Laptop | Nash, want fastpaced music?:P |
| 15:19.35 | Nash|Laptop | I DON'T WANT YOUR MUSIC D: |
| 15:19.43 | Vailreth | i just wish you could test lay mods directly with out needing to make changes to the mod save it load a map that uses the mod and test play the map |
| 15:19.51 | Nash|Laptop | People always want to share music with others for some reason. |
| 15:19.55 | SentryIII | They sound good in-game, but can't really enjoy outside of the game |
| 15:20.04 | burne- | is there any special reason why my upload doesnt work?! |
| 15:20.08 | Nash|Laptop | Even though everyone else's taste in music sucks. |
| 15:20.10 | burne- | i mean |
| 15:20.13 | burne- | any ideas? |
| 15:20.17 | JademusSreg | Burne, bnet is very busy today. |
| 15:20.20 | Mexa|Laptop | Nash, you tell us about your music taste |
| 15:20.25 | Mexa|Laptop | We tell us about ours |
| 15:20.31 | Nash|Laptop | Yeah but I don't link stuff. |
| 15:20.36 | Mexa|Laptop | And to show you what I like or may not like, I link stufff. |
| 15:20.40 | Mexa|Laptop | -f |
| 15:20.45 | Mexa|Laptop | What's the problem <.< |
| 15:20.57 | Nash|Laptop | Like so many others who are like OMG LSITEN TO THIS AWEOSME MUSCIS!!1! |
| 15:21.07 | Mexa|Laptop | [17:20] <Nash|Laptop> Even though everyone else's taste in music sucks. |
| 15:21.10 | Mexa|Laptop | durr |
| 15:21.25 | Nash|Laptop | I don't want to hear your music and you don't want to hear mine. |
| 15:21.26 | Mexa|Laptop | [17:20] <Nash|Laptop> everyone else's taste in music sucks. |
| 15:21.31 | Nash|Laptop | D_D |
| 15:21.32 | Mexa|Laptop | [17:20] <Nash|Laptop> music sucks. |
| 15:21.42 | Mexa|Laptop | sucks |
| 15:22.00 | Mexa|Laptop | I kid your music. |
| 15:22.04 | Mexa|Laptop | Now I must go |
| 15:22.19 | Mexa|Laptop | Taste is taste anyways |
| 15:22.26 | Vailreth | this community is sooo Helpful now adays... |
| 15:22.34 | SentryIII | I like this song: http://www.archive.org/download/Torley_Wong_-_The_Final_Selection/Torley_Wong-Three.mp3 |
| 15:23.10 | Mexa|Laptop | Vailreth, what did you need? |
| 15:23.17 | burne- | blub_ tell me if you can test at somepoint (I mean wana see stuff, I added new stuff) |
| 15:23.32 | burne- | im quite confided everything works |
| 15:23.35 | Mexa|Laptop | SentryIII, <3 piano songs |
| 15:23.37 | burne- | but I wana see what people think of new ideas |
| 15:23.54 | SentryIII | Mexa, does sound familiar? |
| 15:24.05 | Vailreth | im just a little fustrated that to test changes to a mod i have to save the mod and close and reload a map that uses that mod as a dependancy.. |
| 15:24.14 | Mexa|Laptop | It does, but I don't think I ever heard just that one |
| 15:24.28 | JademusSreg | Mexa, how's Photon Cycles doing in the EU? |
| 15:24.38 | Mexa|Laptop | Not sure |
| 15:24.44 | Mexa|Laptop | it was up by 2minutes last time I checked |
| 15:24.48 | Mexa|Laptop | :> |
| 15:24.57 | JademusSreg | It's overtaken its predecessor here in NA. |
| 15:25.14 | Mexa|Laptop | It needs more advertising I guess, but maybe it got more hours now when it got on the front page |
| 15:25.25 | JademusSreg | Maybe. =) |
| 15:25.28 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 15:25.48 | SentryIII | I think if I wasn't working on videos, my map would probably be in beta testing right now :o |
| 15:26.34 | SentryIII | I'm a little jealous that some people here have already published a map |
| 15:26.46 | Vailreth | i have heard that others can set default map in prefernces and then test play mods on that map by clicking the test play button.... but that has never wroked for me |
| 15:27.03 | Mexa|Laptop | Woah that's pretty nice |
| 15:27.06 | Mexa|Laptop | It has 11 hours |
| 15:27.12 | Mexa|Laptop | :p |
| 15:27.23 | Mexa|Laptop | I was surprised |
| 15:27.46 | Mexa|Laptop | Not sure if you consider it good or not |
| 15:28.27 | Mexa|Laptop | vailreth, oh |
| 15:28.27 | SentryIII | Give it a few days |
| 15:28.38 | Mexa|Laptop | Pardon me, you completely vanished behind all sentences |
| 15:28.58 | SentryIII | If people play it and they really enjoy the gameplay, they'll come back for more |
| 15:29.00 | Mexa|Laptop | Vailreth |
| 15:29.07 | Vailreth | yes? |
| 15:29.12 | Mexa|Laptop | You can select the default map for testing a mod |
| 15:29.23 | Mexa|Laptop | That way you never have to close the mod you are working in |
| 15:29.26 | Vailreth | it has never worked |
| 15:29.38 | Mexa|Laptop | I suspect you just put the wrong path |
| 15:29.43 | Vailreth | nope |
| 15:29.52 | Vailreth | the path is correct. |
| 15:30.00 | Mexa|Laptop | So it loads the right map? |
| 15:30.06 | Vailreth | no map loads |
| 15:30.12 | Vailreth | nothing happens at all |
| 15:30.14 | Mexa|Laptop | Then the path isn't correct |
| 15:30.21 | Vailreth | the path IS correct |
| 15:30.21 | Mexa|Laptop | .__ |
| 15:30.32 | Mexa|Laptop | What is the file path you select as default one? |
| 15:30.33 | Mexa|Laptop | Okay |
| 15:30.47 | Mexa|Laptop | "DefaultMap" |
| 15:31.46 | Mexa|Laptop | The map needs to be the root folder of "Maps", and the DefaultMap should be the name of the map without any file extension |
| 15:32.04 | Mexa|Laptop | If that is setup properly it should work. |
| 15:33.45 | Mexa|Afk | Durr |
| 15:33.48 | Mexa|Afk | Later people |
| 15:33.57 | Vailreth | nope doesnt workj |
| 15:34.19 | Vailreth | let me try one more thing |
| 15:35.25 | Mexa|Afk | Could be you have to run the editor in admin mode |
| 15:35.34 | Vailreth | ok did they change it somewhere that it nolonger uses the full path? |
| 15:35.41 | Mexa|Afk | Installing games in program files have a special permission mode |
| 15:35.55 | Mexa|Afk | And often, you may get access denied without approval of the UAC |
| 15:36.03 | Mexa|Afk | (user access control) |
| 15:36.10 | Mexa|Afk | Which is a part of windows 7 security |
| 15:36.15 | Dustin | Anyone else have their trigger list duplicate all it's trigger list items? |
| 15:36.25 | Vailreth | when i said it has never worked i mean only in retail back in beta i had it working but i think it required the full path |
| 15:36.51 | Mexa|Afk | Okay |
| 15:37.03 | Mexa|Afk | Well |
| 15:37.11 | Mexa|Afk | Not sure what else to say then |
| 15:37.19 | Vailreth | im sorry |
| 15:37.34 | Vailreth | i have been thinking it required the whole path name |
| 15:37.51 | Mexa|Afk | Got it to work? |
| 15:38.13 | Vailreth | not just the map name alone... no but its trying to open the maps now i am getting Unable to open map errors |
| 15:38.32 | Mexa|Afk | Okay |
| 15:38.42 | Mexa|Afk | But that would be because it can't find the map I think. |
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| 15:40.10 | Mexa|Afk | Nash |
| 15:40.29 | Mexa|Afk | Still pushing up those hours of your map? |
| 15:41.11 | Vailreth | well i will be back later work calls |
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| 15:43.13 | burne- | Mexa |
| 15:43.20 | burne- | wana race? |
| 15:43.38 | burne- | :/ |
| 15:43.40 | burne- | star drivers |
| 15:44.34 | Nash|Laptop | mexaface: yes |
| 15:45.01 | Nash|Laptop | gonna eat now, need computer for other stuff |
| 15:52.01 | Mexa|Afk | burne- I was just leaving |
| 15:52.05 | Mexa|Afk | Perhaps later |
| 15:52.14 | burne- | kk |
| 15:52.40 | rynti | hey guys, anyone knows how i can use the stuff in the text module? |
| 15:52.43 | rynti | from triggers |
| 15:53.12 | rynti | i mean i have the ID and i want to get the text - all inside a trigger |
| 15:53.16 | rynti | any way to do that? |
| 15:53.57 | rynti | ah i found something, let's try that out |
| 15:55.25 | rynti | yeah got it ;) |
| 15:56.29 | Helral|afk | meows |
| 15:56.53 | burne- | herall |
| 15:57.00 | burne- | come play star drivers |
| 15:57.11 | Helral|melting | whacks burne- for spelling his name wrong |
| 15:57.23 | burne- | well it was close |
| 15:57.23 | burne- | :( |
| 15:57.33 | Helral|melting | but close isn't correct ;p |
| 15:57.52 | Helral|melting | so what is that star drivers? |
| 15:58.17 | Helral|melting | I do hope it ain't a map made badly after an anime series.... |
| 15:59.20 | burne- | its the same map where you crashed 2 times |
| 15:59.28 | burne- | befor finishing first lap |
| 15:59.32 | Helral|melting | ahhh want me to crash again? |
| 15:59.46 | burne- | you shouldnt be able to do that so easily now |
| 15:59.50 | burne- | but its possible tough |
| 16:00.00 | Helral|melting | you said that last time when you fixed it as well |
| 16:00.05 | Helral|melting | and I still crashed easily. |
| 16:00.33 | burne- | mm |
| 16:00.36 | burne- | :) |
| 16:01.02 | Mexa|Afk | burne, the only problem I have with it, is the clicking system |
| 16:01.09 | Helral|melting | btw anyone got fake selection working yet? |
| 16:01.10 | Mexa|Afk | More or less |
| 16:01.16 | JademusSreg | Clicking? |
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| 16:01.34 | Mexa|Afk | racing where you click on the ground too slide towards the point |
| 16:01.41 | Mexa|Afk | Like virtua sc2racing |
| 16:01.42 | burne- | mm |
| 16:02.13 | Mexa|Afk | It adds to the complexity of the steering |
| 16:02.49 | Mexa|Afk | But I guess it is between a rock and a hard place. |
| 16:04.42 | Helral|melting | ohhh I got a fake selection bit working now.... now to make it async. ;p |
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| 16:15.29 | Mexa | Oh you net. |
| 16:22.48 | syltman | Oh just realised that portal 2 is out |
| 16:25.22 | Dustin | Hell ya it is |
| 16:25.28 | Dustin | Gonna play the shit out of it tonight |
| 16:28.27 | JademusSreg | Today's Dinosaur Comics is 100% accurate. |
| 16:29.28 | syltman | Dustin me too |
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| 16:30.39 | Bounty | Hai guys |
| 16:31.03 | Helral|melting | meow |
| 16:31.05 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 16:31.08 | syltman | JademusSreg I dunno, I kinda think monopoly is fun |
| 16:31.19 | JademusSreg | Heresy! |
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| 16:33.47 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 16:33.49 | Bounty | test? :) |
| 16:34.04 | JademusSreg | Sure. Just a minute. Writing the list of music that will be in my map. |
| 16:34.15 | Bounty | kk |
| 16:34.20 | syltman | also JademusSreg your maps look like tons of fun |
| 16:34.36 | JademusSreg | Thanks. I'll be updating it in a few days. |
| 16:34.48 | syltman | is it up on EU? |
| 16:34.55 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 16:35.36 | Bounty | Who is your EU uploader Jade? |
| 16:35.40 | JademusSreg | Mexa |
| 16:35.52 | Bounty | I should use him to |
| 16:35.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:37.35 | JademusSreg | I'm still in search of good, aesthetically appropriate, non-commercially licensed music. So if you folks know of any, let me know. =D |
| 16:37.41 | JademusSreg | Bounty, I'm ready to test. |
| 16:37.47 | Bounty | kk |
| 16:37.49 | Bounty | logging on now |
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| 16:38.48 | SentryIII | JademusSreg, look up "Torley Wong" |
| 16:43.24 | Bounty | watcha think JademusSreg? |
| 16:43.52 | JademusSreg | I think it is pretty cool. |
| 16:43.55 | syltman | JademusSreg, newgrounds and soundcloud are good sites for finding that |
| 16:44.07 | JademusSreg | Sylt, I'll take a look at those in a bit. |
| 16:44.18 | JademusSreg | I'm investiagting this Wong. |
| 16:44.21 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 16:44.21 | Bounty | any feedback/suggestions? |
| 16:44.59 | JademusSreg | Bounty, needs more cover, including like mesh, fences, and stuff. |
| 16:45.07 | Bounty | cant do it |
| 16:45.16 | Bounty | there are only cliffs for a reason lol |
| 16:45.21 | JademusSreg | some foms of cover that can be shot through but not seen through or not seen through well. |
| 16:45.25 | JademusSreg | *Some forms |
| 16:45.29 | Bounty | ah |
| 16:45.30 | Bounty | well |
| 16:45.31 | Bounty | that i can do |
| 16:45.32 | Bounty | =P |
| 16:45.35 | Bounty | what would fit well? |
| 16:45.39 | Bounty | for the egyptian temple theme |
| 16:45.50 | Bounty | that cant be seen through but shot through |
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| 16:46.29 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 16:46.33 | JademusSreg | Banners? |
| 16:46.41 | JademusSreg | Tapestries? |
| 16:46.42 | Bounty | banners? |
| 16:46.43 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:47.13 | Bounty | how did the controls feel |
| 16:47.53 | JademusSreg | Pretty good. |
| 16:48.04 | JademusSreg | About as good as can be expected. |
| 16:48.21 | Bounty | I think the real draw will be how accurate the shooting is |
| 16:48.33 | Bounty | its literally 100% lol |
| 16:48.42 | Bounty | if u miss, its bc u didnt hit them |
| 16:48.53 | Bounty | btw, were u in that spot the entire time and i didnt see u? |
| 16:49.09 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 16:49.13 | Bounty | wtf |
| 16:49.15 | JademusSreg | It is hilarious. |
| 16:49.23 | Bounty | how many playres u think? |
| 16:49.25 | Bounty | 14? lol |
| 16:49.33 | JademusSreg | Not on a map that small. |
| 16:49.41 | Bounty | 10? |
| 16:50.05 | Helral|melting | anyone wanna help me with a selection test? |
| 16:50.20 | JademusSreg | Getting the entire Wong collection. I'll skim those for a good candidate. |
| 16:54.15 | JademusSreg | I took a look around newgrounds and decided I'd need to be refered to something good. It can skim Wong's collection easily, but clicking by song by song in a browser is not efficient. |
| 16:54.37 | Helral|melting | anyone on EU available in a bit for helping me test async fake selection? |
| 16:56.27 | Helral|melting | ... |
| 16:56.46 | JademusSreg | I'm on NA. Sorry. |
| 16:59.03 | JademusSreg | I've got 2 definite songs, and handful of maybes, and nearly 30 minutes before I can skim Wong's collection. |
| 17:05.06 | SentryIII | I use Torley Wong's music extensively in my sc2 videos. |
| 17:06.06 | SentryIII | If I ever get a youtube partnership, the license its released under still allows me to use it. |
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| 17:06.30 | SentryIII | And a lot of it sounds pretty good. |
| 17:09.21 | Helral | anyone on EU available in a bit for helping me test async fake selection? |
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| 17:13.39 | burne- | is there anyway to remove sounds from using ability button? |
| 17:18.00 | disi | can someone tell me whats wrong with my trigger? -> http://nopaste.disi.info/0865faaad4.html |
| 17:18.16 | JademusSreg | I'll take a look. |
| 17:18.20 | Helral | test result: successfull |
| 17:18.36 | JademusSreg | Supply is read only. |
| 17:19.01 | disi | JademusSreg i just want to read it |
| 17:19.23 | Helral | you didn't define gt_Supply ? |
| 17:19.33 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 17:20.00 | JademusSreg | I assume it's at the top of the map. |
| 17:20.06 | Helral | I don't see the definition line: trigger gt_Supply; |
| 17:20.08 | Helral | ;p |
| 17:20.19 | JademusSreg | *mapscript |
| 17:20.21 | Helral | hehehe :) |
| 17:20.30 | disi | sorry my fault |
| 17:20.33 | disi | just didn't paste it |
| 17:20.34 | disi | http://nopaste.disi.info/51fa09ad4e.html |
| 17:21.22 | Helral | hehehe |
| 17:21.30 | Helral | well then it looks good. |
| 17:21.39 | Helral | it doesn't give output or ??? |
| 17:21.47 | disi | nope no output |
| 17:21.52 | disi | and its a real simple script ;) |
| 17:21.55 | JademusSreg | You want a message to display when supply changes by exactly -1? |
| 17:22.03 | JademusSreg | Or is -1 the player? |
| 17:22.06 | Helral | JademusSreg: -1 = Any player |
| 17:22.09 | JademusSreg | I didn't check the native. |
| 17:22.17 | JademusSreg | Why not use c_anyPlayer? = |
| 17:22.19 | JademusSreg | =\ |
| 17:22.20 | disi | i hope -1 is all player |
| 17:22.25 | disi | c_anyPlayer? |
| 17:22.30 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 17:22.37 | JademusSreg | It's a constant. |
| 17:22.45 | JademusSreg | In GUI, it's Any Player. |
| 17:23.40 | disi | c_anyPlayer is realy correct, because it gives a comple error :P |
| 17:23.41 | Helral | btw what you want the output on? |
| 17:23.57 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I don't see any reason it wouldn't work, no scripting error, so perhaps its a problem It is supposed to be playergroup? |
| 17:24.07 | Helral | c_playerAny |
| 17:24.50 | JademusSreg | Heh. |
| 17:24.56 | JademusSreg | Honest mistake. |
| 17:25.31 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I don't see any reason it wouldn't work, no scripting error, so perhaps its a problem with how it handles that specific property. |
| 17:25.37 | Helral | or perhaps an incorrect test ;p |
| 17:25.45 | JademusSreg | Does it work with other properties? |
| 17:25.48 | disi | sorry JademusSreg, but what ha a playergroup todo with it? i quite dont realy know what a playergroup is |
| 17:25.56 | JademusSreg | Don't worry about it. |
| 17:26.01 | Helral | nothing to do with it ;p |
| 17:26.07 | JademusSreg | I checked the natives and it takes player. =D |
| 17:26.13 | JademusSreg | (int) |
| 17:27.11 | Helral | also does: Param/Value/938B169D contain a value? |
| 17:27.58 | disi | i typed into the gui Test123456, where can i look it up? |
| 17:28.55 | Helral | well if you've typed it into the GUI then it's prolly correct ;p |
| 17:29.10 | JademusSreg | I think it's a problem with the property in question. |
| 17:29.36 | JademusSreg | Rather, how the engine is handling the property change event for that property. |
| 17:29.40 | Helral | so how do you test your supply nchange? |
| 17:31.10 | disi | well ok here is what i basicly wanna do, after 1 minute GameTime i want to check on every supply change if the player (where the supply changes) is supply blocked, if yes, pump out a text and wait 20 secs if the supply is still blocked player looses |
| 17:31.34 | JademusSreg | Why would you use a trigger for that? |
| 17:31.40 | JademusSreg | You'd do a comparison. |
| 17:31.41 | disi | and im trying the basic of this idea, if supply changes trigger text message |
| 17:31.48 | disi | JademusSreg? |
| 17:31.56 | burne- | HOW DO I REMOVE TEXT "COOLDOWN ACTIVE" or whatever its called |
| 17:31.58 | burne- | whe nyou cast to ofast |
| 17:32.02 | JademusSreg | "well ok here is what i basicly wanna do, after 1 minute GameTime i want to check on every supply change if the player" |
| 17:32.08 | burne- | when you cast too fast |
| 17:32.26 | JademusSreg | In that periodic trigger, you should iterate across the players and check compare supply used to supply. |
| 17:32.40 | JademusSreg | Not use a trigger to detect supply change. |
| 17:33.28 | disi | JademusSreg: but that would result in a iteration the whole time even if the player don't change supply is that correct? |
| 17:33.48 | JademusSreg | Clarify? |
| 17:34.31 | disi | well i thought, that if i do it with a trigger i only get the real changes on supply, with your method your are constantly checking the supply the whole game or? |
| 17:35.01 | JademusSreg | I don't understand what you are attempting to communicate. |
| 17:35.04 | Helral | burne-: remove the alert? |
| 17:35.16 | burne- | coudlnt find it, but I found sollution already |
| 17:35.24 | disi | JademusSreg: can you explain your method of doing the supply change check again? |
| 17:36.27 | JademusSreg | During your periodic trigger, you will check the supply (compare used to available) of each player and issue a message to the players who are supply blocked. |
| 17:37.30 | JademusSreg | Then keep a counter for how long that player is supply blocked. If it exceeds the failure threshold, the player loses, just like you want. |
| 17:37.48 | JademusSreg | All of this can be done from the periodic trigger. |
| 17:38.16 | burne- | fuck |
| 17:38.20 | burne- | my sollution didnt work |
| 17:38.21 | burne- | :( |
| 17:38.51 | JademusSreg | Considering the time oriented nature of you mechanic, it makes sense to tie it to a periodic trigger. |
| 17:38.58 | JademusSreg | *your mechanic |
| 17:40.19 | disi | JademusSreg: ok now the question what is a periodic trigger in the editor, how do i set it up? |
| 17:40.50 | JademusSreg | I don't use GUI, but I can tell you the basic stuff. |
| 17:41.49 | disi | ok |
| 17:42.30 | Helral | burne-: set the text to empty? |
| 17:42.36 | Helral | e_cmdCooldown |
| 17:42.49 | burne- | thx ill check that out |
| 17:42.58 | disi | JademusSreg: is there somewhere i can read about coding the whole thing? |
| 17:43.03 | JademusSreg | New -> New Trigger; Event -> Periodic Time something, set the period to how great you want the time precision to be; Actions -> loop through the active player group and compare supply used to supply available, if supply blocked, set a flag to begin incrementing a counter on the player. |
| 17:43.46 | JademusSreg | Also, send message to the supply blocked player of course. |
| 17:43.52 | burne- | in what page is that suppose to be? |
| 17:43.56 | burne- | helral |
| 17:44.09 | Helral | text module |
| 17:44.20 | AlphA_VsT | rawr |
| 17:44.30 | burne- | where do i find this mystic text module? -_- |
| 17:44.34 | JademusSreg | The counter needs to be a global variable array of type Integer. |
| 17:44.47 | JademusSreg | Or you can use Data Tables if you prefer, |
| 17:44.48 | Helral | near the trigger module and data module and import module |
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| 17:45.04 | burne- | ooh |
| 17:45.05 | burne- | thx |
| 17:45.10 | Helral | :P |
| 17:45.11 | soultaker_ | lol |
| 17:45.12 | soultaker_ | so |
| 17:45.16 | JademusSreg | Do you follow so far disi? |
| 17:45.26 | soultaker_ | anyone know how to replace terrain with a new terrain? |
| 17:45.34 | JademusSreg | Taker, yes. |
| 17:45.37 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 17:45.42 | disi | JademusSreg: yes, but i don't quite understand the playergroup thing :D |
| 17:45.43 | JademusSreg | It's easy. |
| 17:45.50 | AlphA_VsT | press the t button |
| 17:45.52 | soultaker_ | im not sure were to look import? |
| 17:45.59 | JademusSreg | Pick Each Player in Player Group I think it's called. |
| 17:46.24 | JademusSreg | Oh, taker, you mean replacing a texture via directory override? |
| 17:46.39 | JademusSreg | Why would you want to do that? |
| 17:46.45 | disi | ForEachPlayerInGroup |
| 17:46.54 | JademusSreg | Naw, Pick. |
| 17:47.02 | AlphA_VsT | http://i.imgur.com/3itAx.jpg my terrian so far... good / bad? |
| 17:47.16 | disi | bah ok |
| 17:47.18 | disi | ah ok |
| 17:47.20 | JademusSreg | Nice start, Alph. |
| 17:47.29 | JademusSreg | But that cave looks hinky. |
| 17:47.31 | disi | JademusSreg and then group all :) |
| 17:47.34 | JademusSreg | Char does not fit. |
| 17:47.41 | JademusSreg | Player Group Active |
| 17:47.42 | AlphA_VsT | Its the only cave :( |
| 17:47.51 | soultaker_ | no |
| 17:47.52 | soultaker_ | like |
| 17:47.52 | JademusSreg | Alph, let me show you somethin. |
| 17:47.55 | AlphA_VsT | I will retexture it |
| 17:47.56 | soultaker_ | in terrain editor |
| 17:48.06 | soultaker_ | just nuking that terrain and throwing in a new terrain |
| 17:48.15 | disi | JademusSreg: ok im trying this thing hope i got it correct, thanks for the help :D |
| 17:48.17 | soultaker_ | i have a person who gave me a wonderful terrain |
| 17:48.21 | soultaker_ | i want to use it |
| 17:48.22 | burne- | is there no way to search for that |
| 17:48.30 | burne- | I cant freaking find the cooldown text |
| 17:48.47 | AlphA_VsT | soultaker_, make sure your in selections mode draw a box over the terrian you want |
| 17:48.48 | AlphA_VsT | copy |
| 17:48.49 | JademusSreg | http://www.sc2c.org/showthread.php?t=277 |
| 17:48.51 | AlphA_VsT | and paste |
| 17:49.05 | soultaker_ | thats awsome |
| 17:49.16 | JademusSreg | I don't recall if the cliff pack contains caves yet, but he's been working on the,. |
| 17:49.18 | JademusSreg | *the, |
| 17:49.21 | JademusSreg | Fuck it. |
| 17:49.34 | JademusSreg | The, is the new correct spelling. |
| 17:49.38 | Helral | burne-: you got the text (Cooldown is active) and the reference (e_cmdCooldown) you should be able to find it with that |
| 17:49.45 | JademusSreg | , makes the m sound. |
| 17:49.47 | Helral | by sorting it on either text or references |
| 17:49.55 | burne- | no i cant |
| 17:49.56 | burne- | :D |
| 17:50.10 | burne- | since there is no search field and doesnt seem to be anything like that |
| 17:50.14 | burne- | -_- |
| 17:50.27 | Helral | I found it O.o |
| 17:50.30 | AlphA_VsT | lol JademusSreg |
| 17:50.54 | AlphA_VsT | you can rotate it and flip is also soultaker_ |
| 17:50.54 | Helral | I had it sorted on Id (reference) |
| 17:50.55 | burne- | what tabs should i use |
| 17:50.56 | JademusSreg | Yeah, it should include the cave entrances. |
| 17:51.06 | soultaker_ | im still trying to copy |
| 17:51.11 | JademusSreg | Based on the what is written in the topic. |
| 17:51.12 | soultaker_ | but this will copt the terrain right |
| 17:51.16 | burne- | I can search based on text |
| 17:51.18 | soultaker_ | everything in terrain layer? |
| 17:51.18 | AlphA_VsT | yes |
| 17:51.18 | burne- | i guess ill use that |
| 17:51.24 | AlphA_VsT | if you in terrian mode |
| 17:51.31 | AlphA_VsT | while not in edit more |
| 17:51.40 | AlphA_VsT | press space bar to switch |
| 17:51.42 | soultaker_ | ctrl +a , ctrl+v? |
| 17:51.48 | soultaker_ | ctrl +c*** |
| 17:51.48 | Helral | burne-: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13276752/Cooldown%20in%20Text%20Editor.png ;p |
| 17:51.54 | AlphA_VsT | ctrl + c is copy |
| 17:51.56 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 17:52.09 | AlphA_VsT | isonot if select all works never tried it |
| 17:52.17 | AlphA_VsT | idono |
| 17:52.24 | soultaker_ | so just highlight everyhting |
| 17:52.26 | soultaker_ | kk |
| 17:53.42 | burne- | finalyl found it |
| 17:53.43 | burne- | thx |
| 17:54.18 | AlphA_VsT | i love you jade <3 |
| 17:54.38 | JademusSreg | <3 |
| 17:54.40 | burne- | next question |
| 17:54.48 | burne- | how do i made abilities not disturb movement |
| 17:55.03 | JademusSreg | Allows Movement, Transient |
| 17:55.04 | burne- | I guess ill test it if its just |
| 17:55.07 | burne- | k |
| 17:55.08 | burne- | thx |
| 17:55.24 | Helral | transient orso I think. |
| 17:55.24 | burne- | what does transient mean? never heard of that word |
| 17:55.52 | JademusSreg | Everything is transient if that gives you a clue. =D |
| 17:56.06 | burne- | :/ |
| 17:56.25 | JademusSreg | Every physical thing, at least. |
| 17:56.38 | Helral | I'm not transient ;p |
| 17:56.45 | soultaker_ | AlphA_VsT |
| 17:56.47 | JademusSreg | You're not homeless. =D |
| 17:56.51 | soultaker_ | nothign is traserfing over? |
| 17:57.47 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 17:57.59 | soultaker_ | oh shit |
| 17:58.02 | soultaker_ | nv, |
| 18:03.12 | AlphA_VsT | wow |
| 18:03.15 | AlphA_VsT | fuck that guy |
| 18:03.26 | AlphA_VsT | the cave doesnt have sides to it |
| 18:03.32 | blub_ | whom, what, huh? |
| 18:03.55 | AlphA_VsT | the save doesnt go to the ground 0.o on the sides |
| 18:03.57 | AlphA_VsT | wtf |
| 18:06.50 | AlphA_VsT | cave |
| 18:07.49 | AlphA_VsT | i hate you JademusSreg |
| 18:08.46 | JademusSreg | duncare. |
| 18:09.50 | JademusSreg | Resize, position, rotatation, these are your friends. |
| 18:10.58 | AlphA_VsT | not when the model shows a big fucking hole in the side |
| 18:11.06 | AlphA_VsT | and it has to be from the side |
| 18:11.40 | JademusSreg | I haven't looked at them. Only saw his dev screenshots. |
| 18:12.08 | JademusSreg | If there is a problem, ask him to fix it. =D |
| 18:13.29 | AlphA_VsT | i dont get wtf he was thinking |
| 18:13.42 | AlphA_VsT | i will jsut retexture the fucking cave model |
| 18:13.49 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 18:16.00 | AlphA_VsT | im not going to sign up for some random ass website to tell soem guy he sucks |
| 18:16.22 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka He's here. |
| 18:16.44 | JademusSreg | Shadow_Killer, Alph is upset with your cave. |
| 18:18.00 | JademusSreg | Let's see if I can get his attention; he might be playing Portal 2 or soemthing. |
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| 18:39.59 | AlphA_VsT | so yeah |
| 18:40.22 | AlphA_VsT | no i was reattempting to use teh cave |
| 18:40.51 | AlphA_VsT | and i should be working on these proofs :D |
| 18:40.53 | AlphA_VsT | FUCK ME |
| 18:40.59 | AlphA_VsT | work sucks |
| 18:41.28 | AlphA_VsT | but yeah |
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| 18:41.58 | AlphA_VsT | http://i.imgur.com/ITV3T.jpg JademusSreg how does that look now? |
| 18:43.02 | JademusSreg | It needs a bit more rock texture, less dirt texture. |
| 18:43.35 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 18:43.41 | Helral | meow |
| 18:43.47 | JademusSreg | Also, it I make use of the cliffs extensively in another project I'm working on, none of the blizz cliffs. |
| 18:43.58 | JademusSreg | I can't stand those blocky shits. |
| 18:44.10 | Helral | meow? |
| 18:44.15 | JademusSreg | Hi kitty. |
| 18:44.20 | Helral | meeow |
| 18:44.25 | JademusSreg | tk-tk-tk-tk-tk here kitty. |
| 18:44.41 | Helral | holds out paw with claws extended |
| 18:44.49 | Helral | meows |
| 18:45.01 | JademusSreg | Here's a delicious Mickey Mouse. |
| 18:45.07 | JademusSreg | FINISH HIM |
| 18:45.17 | Helral | pokes mousey with paw. |
| 18:45.40 | Helral | gives mousey a backpack. |
| 18:45.53 | Helral | meows "go forth my banemouse" |
| 18:46.25 | Kueken | <- seriously terrified |
| 18:46.38 | Helral | of what? |
| 18:46.43 | Helral | the banemice? |
| 18:46.54 | Kueken | the bane of the banemice |
| 18:46.59 | Helral | lol |
| 18:47.21 | JademusSreg | So, I'm looking for music. |
| 18:47.27 | JademusSreg | For my map. =D |
| 18:47.58 | JademusSreg | Needs to be good aesthetically appropriate, and have a license that permits non-commercial distribution. |
| 18:47.59 | Deaod | what genre? |
| 18:48.19 | JademusSreg | It needs to fit the map. I don't know shit about genres. =D |
| 18:48.41 | Dustin | What kind of music you want? |
| 18:48.53 | Helral | meow meow meow ;p |
| 18:49.06 | JademusSreg | Music that is aesthetically appropriate for Photon Cycles. |
| 18:49.07 | Dustin | meow meow meow is not a type of music! |
| 18:49.17 | Dustin | So some techno/dubstep? |
| 18:49.23 | JademusSreg | Sure. Whatever that is. |
| 18:49.44 | AlphA_VsT | daft punk fyi |
| 18:49.45 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
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| 18:50.17 | JademusSreg | Except Daft Punk music doesn't permit this sort of distribution, I expect. |
| 18:50.18 | Dekar | did anyone write anything interesting in the last 12 hours? |
| 18:50.31 | AlphA_VsT | remix 0.o |
| 18:50.53 | JademusSreg | Naw, the Ethic of Cool includes respecting people and their shit. |
| 18:51.32 | AlphA_VsT | lol tell that to fucking kyne west |
| 18:51.36 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 18:51.40 | JademusSreg | I don't give a shit about legality, I just want to respect the artists. |
| 18:51.54 | JademusSreg | Kayne West isn't even worth talking about. |
| 18:52.01 | Deaod | http://conspiracy.hu/release/64k/chaos_theory/ |
| 18:52.02 | Helral | meeoww meow meoow |
| 18:52.09 | AlphA_VsT | he pisses me off |
| 18:52.32 | Helral | meow? |
| 18:52.45 | AlphA_VsT | actually the people who like his shit pisses me off but yeah |
| 18:54.38 | JademusSreg | Downloading Deaod. |
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| 18:55.17 | JademusSreg | Is there anywhere they say it's cool to distribute it or use it in derivitive works? |
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| 18:56.11 | Kalekin | With regards to text tags, does anyone know of any other types of referencing besides data table references? |
| 18:56.29 | Kalekin | Ideally I would like to reference some sort of variable from script |
| 18:56.46 | Dustin | Dude |
| 18:56.46 | Dustin | http://www.entropymusic.com/downloads/A_different_journey_by_Positively_Dark.mp3 |
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| 18:56.56 | Dustin | Use that, free and it'd fit good |
| 18:57.19 | Deaod | no, but im sure you can contact the author and ask |
| 18:57.24 | Deaod | http://gargaj.umlaut.hu/prods/scapedifferent-solskogen-2008-compo-cut/ |
| 18:57.28 | Deaod | same author |
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| 18:58.56 | Deaod | maybe rude awakening is unusable because it changes too often |
| 18:59.13 | Deaod | its good for a short movie |
| 18:59.17 | Deaod | (or demo) |
| 18:59.26 | Deaod | but probably not as background music for a game |
| 19:00.10 | JademusSreg | I'll be going through a bunch of music later today. I'll try to trim it down to ~ 8 tracks. |
| 19:00.41 | JademusSreg | I still have the entire Wong "The Last Collection" stuff to go through. |
| 19:01.58 | AlphA_VsT | wow |
| 19:04.33 | JademusSreg | Two definite tracks I've got a C418 track, and a Gecko Yamori track. The other 6 slots are yet undecided. |
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| 19:11.57 | Helral | meow |
| 19:12.09 | TMA_Dryeyece | Woof |
| 19:12.12 | Helral | meow |
| 19:12.19 | TMA_Dryeyece | Grrrrrrrr |
| 19:12.27 | Helral | hisses |
| 19:12.47 | Helral | swipes at the doggies nose |
| 19:12.56 | TMA_Dryeyece | *Wimpers |
| 19:13.21 | Dustin | Roleplay room what |
| 19:13.26 | TMA_Dryeyece | lol |
| 19:13.34 | Helral | meow? |
| 19:13.41 | TMA_Dryeyece | woof> |
| 19:13.46 | TMA_Dryeyece | ? |
| 19:13.57 | Dustin | Rawr? |
| 19:14.00 | TMA_Dryeyece | *Pees on the cat |
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| 19:15.25 | Bouny | >< |
| 19:15.31 | TMA_Dryeyece | LOL |
| 19:17.43 | Dekar | what do you need the songs for JademusSreg? |
| 19:17.51 | JademusSreg | For my map. |
| 19:17.57 | Dekar | photon cycles? |
| 19:18.01 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
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| 19:23.27 | Mexa | hi |
| 19:23.28 | Kalekin | A nice looking map Jademus. |
| 19:23.31 | Kalekin | Simple but clean. |
| 19:23.39 | Kalekin | I mean, clean and simple :p |
| 19:24.20 | Kalekin | Helral, did that selection stuff prove useful? |
| 19:25.02 | Dekar | photon cycles needs some sid metal xD http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0zmliQzyLY |
| 19:26.07 | AlphA_VsT | rawr |
| 19:26.10 | Mexa | yawn, must prep dinner |
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| 19:26.48 | JademusSreg | Dekar, sounds kinda nice. What's the license on it? |
| 19:26.54 | JademusSreg | Kale, thanks. =D |
| 19:26.57 | Dekar | http://forum.machinaesupremacy.com/index.php?topic=5300.0 |
| 19:26.58 | Dekar | :S |
| 19:27.24 | Dekar | should be ok |
| 19:27.25 | AlphA_VsT | http://i.imgur.com/D3xLX.jpg getting better? |
| 19:27.37 | Dekar | use better graphics! |
| 19:27.42 | Dekar | :D |
| 19:27.59 | JademusSreg | Looks much better Alph. |
| 19:28.00 | AlphA_VsT | ? |
| 19:28.14 | Dekar | higher graphic settings = instantly looks nicer :> |
| 19:28.24 | AlphA_VsT | that is high :( |
| 19:28.29 | Dekar | really? |
| 19:28.33 | Dekar | looks pretty bad |
| 19:28.37 | Dekar | somehow |
| 19:28.39 | Dekar | that grass |
| 19:28.42 | Dekar | looks like medium to me! |
| 19:28.51 | JademusSreg | Talking about the cave Dekar. |
| 19:29.03 | Dekar | i see no cave xD |
| 19:29.18 | Dekar | the stone pile! |
| 19:29.21 | JademusSreg | It's not obvious at that angle. =) |
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| 19:29.31 | AlphA_VsT | textures are ultra 0.o |
| 19:29.40 | Mexa | I realise how damn ugly sc2 is on the very lowest settings |
| 19:29.43 | Mexa | lol |
| 19:29.56 | Dekar | maybe its your light |
| 19:29.59 | Mexa | And the differences between low and medium are huge |
| 19:30.02 | Dekar | that makes it look strange to me |
| 19:30.26 | Dekar | i dont see any shadow |
| 19:30.35 | AlphA_VsT | shadows are not enabled |
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| 19:30.38 | AlphA_VsT | fuck off |
| 19:30.42 | Dekar | :( |
| 19:30.45 | Mexa | Hey Jade? |
| 19:30.56 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 19:30.56 | Mexa | How is photon cycles going on US? |
| 19:31.05 | JademusSreg | It's great. |
| 19:31.11 | AlphA_VsT | http://i.imgur.com/fY9kz.jpg here is the cave since you really want to see a wall 0.o |
| 19:31.15 | Mexa | how many hours? |
| 19:31.16 | JademusSreg | It overtook its predecessor yesterday. |
| 19:31.25 | JademusSreg | Last I checked yesterday, 23 hours. |
| 19:31.32 | Mexa | neat |
| 19:32.05 | JademusSreg | I'm glad people enjoy it. |
| 19:32.13 | JademusSreg | Motivates me to add new features. |
| 19:32.14 | AlphA_VsT | :D yay for JademusSreg |
| 19:32.23 | Dekar | walls are awesome |
| 19:32.50 | Dekar | nice green omni light |
| 19:33.05 | Dekar | :) |
| 19:33.22 | Mexa | It got up on 26 hours on EU now. |
| 19:34.21 | Dekar | im working so slow on my map |
| 19:34.22 | Mexa | I'm curious, did anyone manage to do that sort of "underground" map for sc2? |
| 19:34.25 | JademusSreg | is surprised. =D |
| 19:34.34 | Mexa | Like the ones they showed on Blizzcon 09? |
| 19:34.41 | Mexa | *one |
| 19:36.37 | AlphA_VsT | you cant do what they showed at blizzcon :P |
| 19:37.08 | disi | grml, where is my error -> UIDisplayMessage(PlayerGroupAll(), c_messageAreaSubtitle, "Test12345 ..."); | Parameter type does not match the function definition |
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| 19:39.29 | disi | ahwwwwww forest and trees great missed my not existing StringToText |
| 19:39.40 | Mexa | alpha, too bad though |
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| 19:40.23 | JademusSreg | Mexa, I'm surprised there are so many people in the EU playing it. |
| 19:40.52 | Mexa | Well, Jade, I am quite sure it's due to the sc2mapster front page showoff:P |
| 19:41.31 | JademusSreg | 26 hours played in ~12 hours? Yeah, that's possible. |
| 19:41.53 | JademusSreg | Just unexpected. |
| 19:47.26 | TMA_Dryeyece | what do you guys mean by "undergound" map? |
| 19:49.25 | Dekar | -_- |
| 19:49.44 | Dekar | pick every unit with all requirements set to allowed does not pick missiles |
| 19:49.55 | AlphA_VsT | not all missiles are units |
| 19:49.57 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 19:50.09 | TMA_Dryeyece | ohh yes they are |
| 19:50.11 | JademusSreg | Missiles are units. |
| 19:50.18 | Dekar | it does pick them when i make the same but missile = required |
| 19:50.25 | JademusSreg | Not all ranged weapons use missiles, though. |
| 19:50.27 | Dekar | instead of missile = allowed |
| 19:50.36 | AlphA_VsT | oh nm |
| 19:50.37 | Dekar | thats jus wtf |
| 19:51.47 | TMA_Dryeyece | how do you know its not picking the missiles, Missiles have rather rapid and short life spans... |
| 19:52.18 | Mexa | TMA_Dryeyece, forget the underground thing. I realise Blizzard could have done it in a fairly easy way |
| 19:52.37 | TMA_Dryeyece | How can I forget what I do not know lol |
| 19:52.43 | Mexa | :) |
| 19:52.53 | Mexa | Forget I even mentioned it |
| 19:52.57 | Mexa | Since you asked:P |
| 19:53.02 | TMA_Dryeyece | lol |
| 19:54.15 | Mexa | brb dinnarg |
| 19:54.35 | Helral | meow? |
| 19:56.13 | TMA_Dryeyece | squawk? |
| 19:56.15 | Dekar | i picked all units in a region and printed their unit type |
| 19:56.26 | TMA_Dryeyece | ahh |
| 19:56.49 | TMA_Dryeyece | yeah but are you certain that the picking occured while the missile was still alive? |
| 19:57.24 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 19:57.37 | Dekar | i know what im doing |
| 19:57.39 | Dekar | >_> |
| 19:57.48 | TMA_Dryeyece | not trying to imply that you dont |
| 19:57.59 | Dekar | its 300 wraiths vs invulnerable units with 0.01 loop |
| 19:58.07 | Dekar | and it worked when i changed it |
| 19:58.26 | Dekar | and dont forget wraiths shoot 2 missiles each |
| 19:58.27 | rynti | Can I kill a unit through triggers but with "emulating" that - a unit/player defined by me - killed it? |
| 19:58.33 | Dekar | yes |
| 19:58.40 | Dekar | with an damage effect |
| 19:58.45 | Dekar | from a unit |
| 19:58.49 | Dekar | at a unit |
| 19:58.56 | Dekar | search for effect |
| 19:59.19 | rynti | can i do that through triggers? |
| 19:59.22 | rynti | or data? |
| 19:59.33 | TMA_Dryeyece | both |
| 19:59.55 | rynti | only both or can i use triggers-only? |
| 20:00.01 | rynti | (btw. hi dryeyece :D) |
| 20:00.12 | TMA_Dryeyece | there is a 1 shot kill flag on every damage effect that will insta kill anyhting, if thats what you mean |
| 20:00.20 | Dekar | you need to create the effect |
| 20:00.24 | Dekar | but the rest can be done with trigger |
| 20:00.28 | TMA_Dryeyece | I would bet money you could do that all thru triggers |
| 20:00.32 | Dekar | or is there a damage delaing trigger? |
| 20:00.41 | TMA_Dryeyece | yeah |
| 20:00.44 | TMA_Dryeyece | set unit property lol |
| 20:00.45 | Dekar | oh yes |
| 20:00.52 | Dekar | there is a deal damage from unit to unit thing |
| 20:00.59 | TMA_Dryeyece | i think theres a modify unit property too |
| 20:01.02 | Dekar | damage unit (from unit ) |
| 20:01.06 | Dekar | is it called |
| 20:01.26 | rynti | lol i searched it |
| 20:01.31 | rynti | but it was in the Environment label |
| 20:01.32 | rynti | ;) |
| 20:01.33 | rynti | thx |
| 20:05.35 | Dekar | when i set a missile weapon to target unit/point |
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| 20:05.53 | Dekar | it predicts the units movment |
| 20:05.57 | Dekar | how can i turn that off? |
| 20:06.27 | Dekar | i want to fire it at the unit directly |
| 20:06.45 | TMA_Dryeyece | you would have to make the impact location a point only |
| 20:06.50 | TMA_Dryeyece | ohh then Unit |
| 20:06.53 | TMA_Dryeyece | only |
| 20:07.13 | TMA_Dryeyece | but if the unit moves it still gonna home in on them |
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| 20:07.39 | TMA_Dryeyece | there are movers with no guidance, but when those missiles fail to hit their target they just slide off the screen |
| 20:09.11 | Dekar | yes, i just saw that mayself |
| 20:09.20 | Dekar | but without guidance should be what i need |
| 20:09.42 | TMA_Dryeyece | the only one I know of for a fact that has no guidance is the toss grenade mover |
| 20:09.54 | TMA_Dryeyece | but I imagine you could just copy paste any mover and turn guidance off |
| 20:11.23 | Dekar | already did that |
| 20:11.32 | TMA_Dryeyece | 8) |
| 20:11.46 | Dekar | but i need to set it to something else |
| 20:11.51 | Dekar | and ballistic is the wrong one |
| 20:12.15 | Dekar | throw |
| 20:12.19 | Dekar | i think that was the right one |
| 20:12.25 | Dekar | or i need to set some values |
| 20:17.16 | Mexa | wow... so many mixed user reviews about portal 2 |
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| 20:23.48 | tordy | what did i miss |
| 20:24.43 | JademusSreg | You missed awesome stuff. |
| 20:24.56 | Mexa | hey there |
| 20:25.05 | Mexa | I have french fries and eggs |
| 20:25.05 | tordy | what did i miss |
| 20:25.08 | tordy | D: |
| 20:25.10 | Mexa | And possibly a hamburger |
| 20:25.13 | Mexa | nomnom |
| 20:25.15 | tordy | besides the photon cycles in the front page! |
| 20:25.18 | tordy | gj JademusSreg |
| 20:25.19 | tordy | :) |
| 20:25.19 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 20:25.23 | JademusSreg | Thanks. |
| 20:25.37 | tordy | stragus disappeared |
| 20:25.40 | tordy | but at least avogatro1 |
| 20:25.41 | tordy | is here |
| 20:26.02 | Dekar | fucking missiles how do they work?! |
| 20:27.05 | JademusSreg | They are powered by miracles. |
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| 20:31.20 | Dekar | the worst thing is |
| 20:31.30 | Dekar | im not sure if its the missile |
| 20:31.39 | Dekar | or if i cant move missiles at all |
| 20:31.47 | Dekar | >_> |
| 20:32.05 | Dekar | but i think i could move them some tries before |
| 20:32.37 | Dekar | actually im trying the missiles under normal circumstances too |
| 20:32.40 | Dekar | hmm |
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| 20:37.44 | Dekar | JademusSreg you mspa fan! |
| 20:39.32 | Dekar | man |
| 20:39.32 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 20:39.41 | Dekar | why do i have to use workarounds for data editor |
| 20:39.53 | Dekar | just to get a weapon which shoots missiles straight |
| 20:40.06 | Dekar | shouldnt mover be able to do that on their own? |
| 20:40.13 | JademusSreg | Straight in what capacity? |
| 20:40.18 | AlphA_VsT | wtf does blue mean on pathing |
| 20:40.20 | AlphA_VsT | wtf |
| 20:40.33 | Dekar | straight forward in the local system |
| 20:40.34 | JademusSreg | Blue is cliff jump. |
| 20:40.51 | AlphA_VsT | really |
| 20:40.59 | AlphA_VsT | my groudn turned into blue |
| 20:41.03 | AlphA_VsT | i couldnt change it |
| 20:41.07 | AlphA_VsT | i hit undo a bunch |
| 20:41.47 | Helral | meow |
| 20:41.57 | JademusSreg | Over varyiong height? |
| 20:41.58 | Dekar | meooow |
| 20:42.11 | JademusSreg | Because -that- is difficult. |
| 20:42.18 | AlphA_VsT | nope in front of my cave |
| 20:42.19 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 20:42.25 | AlphA_VsT | its falt |
| 20:42.27 | AlphA_VsT | flat |
| 20:42.58 | JademusSreg | Same thing; flying plane has gradual inclines over cliffs. |
| 20:44.49 | blub_ | portal 2 coop ftw |
| 20:44.50 | blub_ | :D |
| 20:45.13 | Helral | meow ftw |
| 20:45.49 | JademusSreg | Sounds like a mover issue. =D |
| 20:48.32 | AlphA_VsT | your a moving issue |
| 20:48.41 | Mexa | helral ft meow. |
| 20:48.57 | JademusSreg | *You're |
| 20:49.05 | JademusSreg | *mover |
| 20:49.24 | Dekar | omg |
| 20:49.26 | Dekar | i did it |
| 20:49.47 | Mexa | Helral, http://www.prguitarman.com/index.php?id=348 |
| 20:51.55 | Dekar | i watched that a few days ago :D |
| 20:56.08 | AlphA_VsT | is it possible to rotate a dialog? |
| 20:57.31 | JademusSreg | I don't think so. |
| 21:01.11 | AlphA_VsT | if you make me look and your wrong |
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| 21:02.03 | JademusSreg | Dialog Controls allow for rotation. |
| 21:02.21 | JademusSreg | But not Dialogs. |
| 21:02.32 | AlphA_VsT | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:04.55 | AlphA_VsT | so that wont work? |
| 21:05.00 | AlphA_VsT | I THINK YOU LIE!!!!! |
| 21:05.04 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 21:05.31 | JademusSreg | (Dialog item == Dialog control) != Dialog |
| 21:05.37 | JademusSreg | In case that wasn't clear. |
| 21:09.32 | Stewox | guys |
| 21:09.39 | Stewox | guess what |
| 21:09.56 | Stewox | if anyone wants SC2 gamespeed increased just look on sc2mapster |
| 21:09.59 | Stewox | it's been solved |
| 21:10.13 | AlphA_VsT | what do u mean |
| 21:10.18 | Stewox | that's useful for videos and demos |
| 21:10.22 | AlphA_VsT | that was never a issue |
| 21:10.23 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 21:10.32 | Stewox | as multiple users were requesting |
| 21:10.40 | Stewox | no |
| 21:10.47 | Stewox | this is not a movement speed mod |
| 21:11.04 | AlphA_VsT | link? |
| 21:11.16 | Dekar | ithought someone did that long ago |
| 21:11.20 | Dekar | D: |
| 21:11.24 | Stewox | it's not actually game's thing, that's not possible since the beta |
| 21:11.37 | Stewox | malu05 did it in SC2 beta |
| 21:11.44 | Stewox | althought he never explained how |
| 21:11.52 | Stewox | but ... i got it working now |
| 21:11.59 | Stewox | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/12011-greatly-increasing-game-speed-over-faster/#p16 |
| 21:12.47 | AlphA_VsT | 0.o |
| 21:13.40 | Stewox | surprisingly |
| 21:13.51 | Stewox | it lags less cause the code executes faster |
| 21:14.05 | Stewox | it never took all of the available CPU |
| 21:14.15 | Stewox | but frame rate is pwned down |
| 21:19.11 | Dekar | lol |
| 21:19.21 | Dekar | i wouldnt call that anything useful |
| 21:22.35 | Stewox | why not |
| 21:23.16 | Stewox | this is what took me a few months to find , and i could have , this was so easy i mean , in the happines , im even angry i was so stupid i didn't notice this before |
| 21:25.00 | Nash|327 | I just idled my map for over 6 hours D_D |
| 21:25.08 | Stewox | how do i even launch the debugging mode ? |
| 21:25.47 | AlphA_VsT | yay Nash|327 |
| 21:26.20 | Stewox | is that even worth of a discussion nash , i saw it a few times , what's the big deal ? |
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| 21:27.12 | Nash|327 | NOTHING IS WORTHY OF DISCUSSION, LET'S ALL STFU |
| 21:28.08 | Dekar | i would like to RTFM of the editor |
| 21:28.27 | Nash|327 | you are not STFUing D: |
| 21:28.43 | Stewox | it's like saying "i was peeing at school for 5 minutes today" for a week .... it becomes a cliche and gets annoying |
| 21:28.55 | Nash|327 | This is IRC, it's not for talking to people |
| 21:29.12 | Stewox | but i wonder you were up to something else that's why im asking you to clarify |
| 21:29.12 | AlphA_VsT | its for making fun of them |
| 21:29.15 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 21:30.00 | Stewox | not really nitpicky but you're saying this for 24 hours nash , about idling on a map |
| 21:30.54 | Nash|327 | I'm sorry I don't meet your high standards of conversation, feel free to ignore me in the future. |
| 21:30.54 | Stewox | lol |
| 21:30.54 | AlphA_VsT | you mean high schol standards |
| 21:30.54 | AlphA_VsT | :D |
| 21:30.54 | Stewox | im just asking what it was really about |
| 21:30.56 | Dekar | elementary school |
| 21:31.07 | Dekar | who am i flaming atm? |
| 21:31.07 | AlphA_VsT | true |
| 21:31.12 | Dekar | im too sleepy |
| 21:31.16 | Stewox | high school is called middle school in our country |
| 21:31.21 | AlphA_VsT | Stewox, Dekar |
| 21:31.21 | Dekar | to keep track of the conversation |
| 21:31.28 | Dekar | thx |
| 21:31.39 | Nash|327 | I like kittuns |
| 21:31.49 | Dekar | i like them too |
| 21:32.10 | Nash|327 | hug kittuns |
| 21:32.13 | Bouny | Anyone wanan help test my new Sniper map? |
| 21:32.19 | AlphA_VsT | bouny |
| 21:32.22 | Bouny | TPS, 100% accurate aiming on bnet |
| 21:32.22 | Stewox | yes |
| 21:32.24 | Stewox | me |
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| 21:32.29 | AlphA_VsT | me also |
| 21:32.33 | AlphA_VsT | fuck him |
| 21:32.38 | Bouny | hes EU neways |
| 21:32.38 | Bouny | lol |
| 21:32.40 | Stewox | i have an hour and half of time |
| 21:32.50 | Bouny | You're not US though Stewox |
| 21:33.19 | Nash|327 | NATIONALIST D: |
| 21:33.30 | AlphA_VsT | im getting on |
| 21:33.36 | Bouny | go to mapster channel |
| 21:34.42 | AlphA_VsT | kk |
| 21:35.09 | Stewox | well i wouldn't mind , but does it matter |
| 21:35.11 | AlphA_VsT | mine isnt ready to test yet :( |
| 21:35.21 | Bouny | i dotn even know if this is rdy |
| 21:35.22 | Bouny | >< |
| 21:35.23 | Bouny | we'll see |
| 21:35.26 | AlphA_VsT | lol |
| 21:35.36 | AlphA_VsT | ive been doign to much terrian |
| 21:35.46 | AlphA_VsT | eak |
| 21:37.45 | Nash|327 | T-E-R-R-A-I-N |
| 21:37.53 | AlphA_VsT | yes |
| 21:38.06 | AlphA_VsT | thats what i typed 0.o |
| 21:38.53 | superdoug | terran |
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| 21:40.51 | Dekar | terain |
| 21:42.12 | Helral | train? |
| 21:42.38 | Dekar | rain |
| 21:42.51 | Helral | Rin-chan ;p |
| 21:43.08 | Dekar | in |
| 21:43.12 | Helral | ni |
| 21:43.21 | Dekar | i |
| 21:43.38 | Helral | we are ze knights who say NI |
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| 21:43.55 | Dekar | bring me a shrubbery |
| 21:44.11 | Helral | we are ze keepers of ze sacred words NI-peng and NU-wong. |
| 21:45.52 | Dekar | Helral why cant i move launched missiles with triggers? |
| 21:46.53 | Helral | because they're uncommandable? (no idea to be honest) |
| 21:47.07 | tordy | yo |
| 21:48.07 | Dekar | i removed all flags |
| 21:48.18 | Dekar | even changed the mover |
| 21:48.29 | Dekar | i think launch missiles flags them as special |
| 21:48.29 | Helral | did you give them the move ability? |
| 21:48.36 | Dekar | with a trigger |
| 21:48.47 | rynti | Is there any code convention for galaxy? for the naming of variables and functions? |
| 21:48.49 | Dekar | move isntantly |
| 21:49.16 | Dekar | just use your favorite c or java code convention |
| 21:49.27 | Helral | rynti: yeah, dunno where it's written out though ;p |
| 21:49.35 | Stewox | Why does it matter if im EU bounty? |
| 21:49.47 | Stewox | Why does it matter if im EU bouny? |
| 21:50.42 | rynti | @helral: then tell me :D |
| 21:50.43 | Nash|327 | Guess. |
| 21:50.44 | Nash|327 | Guess. |
| 21:51.47 | Helral | rynti: prefixes for stuff: 1st letter -- g = global, l = local. second letter -- t = trigger, v = variable, .... rest I dunno ;p |
| 21:51.56 | Helral | owyeah prefix ends with |
| 21:51.59 | Helral | "_" |
| 21:52.31 | Helral | c = constant ;p |
| 21:52.49 | Helral | but that's just what blizzard uses as code convention ;p |
| 21:52.50 | Ashamed | i is bored |
| 21:53.05 | Helral | throws a derob @ Ashamed |
| 21:54.00 | Stewox | along with my sandbox stuff |
| 21:54.16 | Stewox | im actually wanting to go make a FPS out of this .. engine |
| 21:54.23 | Stewox | anyone idea where to start |
| 21:54.28 | Stewox | camera ... WSAD ... etc |
| 21:55.01 | Helral | Stewox: did you figure it out yet, why it matters that you're EU? |
| 21:55.03 | Dekar | 3d targeting system |
| 21:55.17 | Stewox | no helral , but im thinknig |
| 21:55.17 | Nash|327 | Too complex. |
| 21:55.30 | Helral | Stewox: they're NA ;p |
| 21:55.33 | Nash|327 | NP-complete problem. |
| 21:55.34 | Stewox | he asked just about testing the map |
| 21:55.48 | Stewox | not publishing or uploading |
| 21:55.57 | Stewox | so i don't know why would the local matter |
| 21:56.08 | Stewox | locale* |
| 21:56.27 | Helral | usually if people ask for tests it on bnet ;p |
| 21:56.47 | Dekar | off to the bed-mobile! |
| 21:56.48 | Stewox | but i don't know that was requested |
| 21:57.03 | Stewox | it can be an offline test for bugs/ balance |
| 21:57.08 | Stewox | beta test |
| 21:57.16 | Stewox | you don't need bnet for tht |
| 21:57.52 | Helral | ahh well time to work on my UI some more ;p |
| 21:58.06 | AlphA_VsT | do mine helral :D |
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| 21:58.48 | AlphA_VsT | can you add custom ui elements like in starjeweled ? |
| 22:01.05 | tordy | avogatro: :3 |
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| 22:02.36 | Nash|327 | I heard avogatro likes constants |
| 22:02.54 | Helral | ain't starjeweled just pwetty made dialog items? |
| 22:03.36 | Stewox | starjeweld isn't that technically impresive |
| 22:03.43 | Stewox | you want to know why ? |
| 22:04.08 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 22:04.09 | Stewox | that's because the dialog ui system has latency , lags and is unresponsive |
| 22:04.28 | Stewox | they would need a hard patch for this one |
| 22:05.59 | JademusSreg | Yeah, StarJeweled stuff is just dialog. |
| 22:06.17 | Stewox | also with this speedhack that i "discovered", making SC2 engine ramped up is great , a lot less lag , and im beginning to see WHAT this lag is in editor > it's called BAD coding , the search function is SLOW in editor , bad code , but with the hack the search is real-time ! |
| 22:07.22 | Stewox | sacrificing FPS for it , but who cares for that in editor :p |
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| 22:07.57 | JademusSreg | Care to explain? I may heard of it before. |
| 22:09.19 | Stewox | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/12011-greatly-increasing-game-speed-over-faster/#p16 |
| 22:11.08 | JademusSreg | Great that it accomplishes what it does, I guess, only I don't see the use in it. |
| 22:11.36 | Stewox | you don't see it |
| 22:11.55 | Stewox | but those that did videos were scavaging for it , cryign for it |
| 22:12.14 | Stewox | a few months ago ... |
| 22:12.25 | Stewox | forgot , but if i would searched i would found the video |
| 22:12.31 | Stewox | and those guys |
| 22:15.15 | Stewox | jademus |
| 22:15.20 | Stewox | what about WASD movement |
| 22:17.09 | JademusSreg | What a few silly people do to "fix" a problem on their side of the system doesn't solve the problem. |
| 22:17.27 | JademusSreg | What matters is improving battlenet, improving the engine. |
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| 22:24.07 | Stewox | jademussreg |
| 22:24.14 | Stewox | how would i make the FPS camera |
| 22:24.23 | Stewox | i mjust loooking at the triggers now |
| 22:25.39 | JademusSreg | It has been done by a few people. =D |
| 22:25.43 | Bouny | JademusSreg |
| 22:25.47 | Bouny | help me real fast? |
| 22:25.59 | Bouny | i wanna move the main chat area to the bottom left corner |
| 22:26.05 | Bouny | and u said u have the code already? |
| 22:26.26 | JademusSreg | The fun part is getting the camera in just the right spot, and changing it to coincide with the position of approximately at unit's head/ |
| 22:26.36 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 22:27.21 | Bouny | i can haz it? :) |
| 22:27.36 | Bouny | i just wanna do a basic move the default chat to the bototm left |
| 22:27.39 | Bouny | bottom* |
| 22:27.41 | Bouny | for the sniper map |
| 22:28.35 | Stewox | exactly jademus is was thinking about that |
| 22:28.56 | Stewox | but i have not yet found anything of use in triggers for my self, |
| 22:28.59 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/aXCMC5up |
| 22:29.04 | Stewox | Make Camera Look at Unit and Follow |
| 22:29.09 | Stewox | that wouldn't be it |
| 22:29.21 | Bouny | ok |
| 22:29.25 | Stewox | that would be the "top down" following without moving the eye |
| 22:29.26 | Bouny | and what do i do with that jade |
| 22:29.50 | Bouny | >< |
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| 22:30.08 | JademusSreg | Bounty, make an new file in notepad. Paste it there, save it as GameUI.SC2Layout |
| 22:30.15 | Helral | Bouny: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/20323-sc2layout-files-override-method-aiurchef-method/#w-how-to-use-custom-layout-files-in-your-map |
| 22:30.47 | JademusSreg | Import it to the map, go to the data editor, find the Game UI data tab, set Custom Layout Files and select the imported file. |
| 22:31.31 | Bouny | thats it? |
| 22:32.41 | Helral | yup |
| 22:32.53 | Bouny | wow |
| 22:32.57 | Bouny | yet another thing |
| 22:33.02 | Bouny | that looks EXTREMELY intimidating |
| 22:33.06 | Bouny | but its quite easy |
| 22:33.08 | Bouny | lol |
| 22:33.10 | Helral | :P |
| 22:33.18 | Bouny | <3 JademusSreg |
| 22:33.21 | Bouny | and u 2 Helra |
| 22:33.23 | Bouny | ur mah fwend |
| 22:33.24 | Bouny | WE CANZ ALL BE FWENDS! |
| 22:33.25 | Helral | the name of the sc2layout file doesn't matter btw. |
| 22:33.50 | Helral | you could name it: movedChatBar.SC2Layout if you want to. |
| 22:33.51 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 22:33.57 | JademusSreg | I refuse! |
| 22:34.00 | Bouny | well now all i gotta do is get 8 players |
| 22:34.03 | Bouny | to test the map |
| 22:34.07 | Bouny | so far iveo nly had 4 |
| 22:34.10 | JademusSreg | " |
| 22:34.11 | Bouny | everyone loved it |
| 22:34.14 | JademusSreg | "Bouny" |
| 22:35.26 | Bouny | only thing is i need more cover |
| 22:35.29 | Helral | Jade my current list of sc2layout files: HideBottomConsole.SC2Layout, HideMinimapPanelButtons.SC2Layout, HidePortrait.SC2Layout, MoveMinimapAddFrame.SC2Layout, InfoPanelOverride.SC2Layout (last one might be temp till I have it working as wanted) |
| 22:35.37 | Bouny | since the shooting collision isnt affected by lag and always 100% accurate |
| 22:35.44 | Bouny | that means its easy to kill someone |
| 22:35.45 | Bouny | lol |
| 22:38.46 | Bouny | btw i cant see the backlash of rage posts i get from people like OMG THATS NOT POSSIBLE U F*CKING LIAR |
| 22:41.12 | tordy | it's already closed |
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| 22:47.00 | Bouny | JademusSreg, what do you think the Sniper map is missing? |
| 22:47.14 | Bouny | Besides the obvious things like Leaderboard etc |
| 22:47.19 | Bouny | like, gameplay wise |
| 22:49.18 | JademusSreg | Last time I saw it, cover. |
| 22:49.41 | Bouny | so like |
| 22:49.45 | Bouny | Vines? |
| 22:49.46 | Bouny | bushes |
| 22:51.01 | JademusSreg | Sure, something. |
| 22:53.06 | Bouny | or |
| 22:53.07 | Bouny | what if |
| 22:54.11 | Bouny | i made it alot more dark |
| 22:55.13 | Bouny | and made a light follow your mouse position :) |
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| 22:55.13 | Stewox | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU http://www.shrani.si/f/1Z/va/4zYksDSX/sc2-2011-04-20-00-51-45-.jpg |
