IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20110411

`00:00.14`	`Mexa`	`"[...] you will select "Create new MPQ Archive" 7. Name of the archive will be the name of your map, just remember to mind duplicate names, so call it mymap.SC2Map 8. Select "Build the MPQ archive from a file or directory, and input the working directory you made earlier (c:\maps\mymap\) 9. Size of hash table should be set to atleast twice the amount of files you expect to have in the archive, however the default would work with mos`
`00:00.25`	`Mexa`	`mind some parts, yes`
`00:01.56`	`Mexa`	`substitute archive with mod or what you now are making.`
`00:02.01`	`Mexa`	`*map with mod`
`00:03.27`	`Stewox`	`fine`
`00:03.32`	`Stewox`	`should make something`
`00:03.46`	`Stewox`	`I'm afraid not today`
`00:03.55`	`Stewox`	`it's 2 Am`
`00:03.57`	`Stewox`	`damn`
`00:04.22`	`JademusSreg`	`That went well.`
`00:04.23`	`Mexa`	`I guess you'll be around tomorrow then?`
`00:04.27`	`Sixen`	`That wasgood Jade`
`00:04.29`	`Sixen`	`Nice work :)`
`00:04.35`	`JademusSreg`	`So, they could throw discs in the movie?`
`00:04.55`	`Sixen`	`Yeah`
`00:04.57`	`Mexa`	`They did.`
`00:05.05`	`JademusSreg`	`Might not work well, though, if you can only throw forward. =)`
`00:05.16`	`Sixen`	`They had 1 disc they could throw and they could pick ones up if they landed on the arena`
`00:05.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Interesting`
`00:05.28`	`JademusSreg`	`That wouldm ake a good mode.`
`00:05.40`	`JademusSreg`	`Start with one, pick up extras.`
`00:05.41`	`Sixen`	`And... When someone exploded, their cycle turned into a disc that someone else could pick up`
`00:06.06`	`JademusSreg`	`I wonder what I would call that mode.`
`00:06.26`	`Sixen`	`They included that in that "mode"`
`00:06.43`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, I still need to add turbo boost, notifications, sounds, load screen, preview image.`
`00:07.00`	`Mexa`	`Jademus, a custom UI too?`
`00:07.02`	`JademusSreg`	`But I think the prototype handles pretty well.`
`00:07.05`	`Bounty`	`Has anyone ever played a game of Revs Mafia where the Mafia actually didnt win lol`
`00:07.08`	`Sixen`	`Looks awesome though Jade`
`00:07.19`	`Mexa`	`Bounty, did you try what I suggested btw?`
`00:07.25`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm considering messing with the layout to move around the message areas.`
`00:07.28`	`Bounty`	`no`
`00:07.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Thanks Sixen.`
`00:07.32`	`Bounty`	`im not even bothering atm`
`00:07.36`	`Bounty`	`not in the mood to map`
`00:07.39`	`Mexa`	`k._.`
`00:07.42`	`JademusSreg`	`Your feedback wioll be put to good use.`
`00:07.50`	`Sixen`	`;)`
`00:08.04`	`Mexa`	`Jademus, I was thinking more of the actual UI`
`00:08.05`	`Bounty`	`ive launched 2 maps since i came back and none have ever gotten played`
`00:08.12`	`JademusSreg`	`Once it's more polished, I'll ask about getting featured. =D`
`00:08.13`	`Bounty`	`so i think i need to regroup lol`
`00:08.13`	`Mexa`	`different style, in colors etc`
`00:08.14`	`Sixen`	`Something else was... and I believe this wsa in the original as well... There were two floors`
`00:08.24`	`Sixen`	`Two ramps, one going up, one going down, iirc.`
`00:08.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Since it would be embarrassing if it appeared on the front page at the moment.`
`00:08.34`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`00:08.42`	`Mexa`	`Sixen, wasn't there 3 floors?`
`00:08.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Floors. Also interesting possibility.`
`00:09.05`	`JademusSreg`	`It wouldn't be difficult to script such a thing.`
`00:09.09`	`Sixen`	`Ah yeah, that's why i'm confusing it. It's 3.`
`00:09.35`	`Motive`	`Jademus`
`00:09.37`	`Motive`	`I CRAVE YOUR TRON MAP`
`00:09.38`	`JademusSreg`	`It would be difficult to make it look natural.`
`00:09.39`	`Motive`	`I CRAVE IT`
`00:09.40`	`Motive`	`Release it!`
`00:09.43`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`00:09.46`	`JademusSreg`	`<3`
`00:09.53`	`Bounty`	`Motive`
`00:10.04`	`Bounty`	`there are like 500 other maps that are the same thing lol`
`00:10.08`	`Bounty`	`u can play those while u wiat ><`
`00:10.10`	`Motive`	`His is better`
`00:10.51`	`JademusSreg`	`I'll need to look at Helral's layout tutorials before I start fiddling with it.`
`00:10.56`	`JademusSreg`	`rummages for the link.`
`00:11.03`	`Bounty`	`*`
`00:11.48`	`JademusSreg`	`If I can appropriate certain chat areas for specific functions, I can forego the need to write dialogs that accomplish basically the same functionality.`
`00:12.10`	`Bounty`	`I think im going to take a break for abit`
`00:12.21`	`Bounty`	`Unless i think of something that people actually like ><`
`00:12.39`	`JademusSreg`	`Just do something you like and do it really well. =D`
`00:13.07`	`Bounty`	`Did that`
`00:13.17`	`Bounty`	`Whenever its something i personally like, it fails lol`
`00:14.16`	`JademusSreg`	`Fail in what way?`
`00:14.23`	`Bounty`	`Never played`
`00:14.26`	`Bounty`	`At all`
`00:14.29`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`00:16.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Seems like you do a lot of things half-way. Great ideas and a less than thorough follow through. I'm certain that, given more time on any single project, you could make them incredible.`
`00:16.14`	`JademusSreg`	`And that's as close to a compliment as I dare to utter.`
`00:16.16`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`00:16.42`	`Motive`	`If I publish an update to my map does it lose it's Up and Coming page status?`
`00:16.58`	`Bounty`	`Polish doesnt have an impact on how often something gets played though Jademus`
`00:17.01`	`Bounty`	`Atleast from what i'`
`00:17.04`	`Bounty`	`i've seen*`
`00:17.21`	`Motive`	`Polish makes you look like a good mapper`
`00:17.21`	`Bounty`	`I dont think so Motive`
`00:17.22`	`Motive`	`not a shitty one`
`00:17.22`	`Motive`	`:)`
`00:17.48`	`Bounty`	`Well im not really in it to look like a mapping god ><`
`00:17.54`	`Bounty`	`i just wanna play sh*t i make`
`00:18.15`	`Bounty`	`btw`
`00:18.21`	`Bounty`	`nobody looks at the Up and Coming page motive =P`
`00:18.25`	`Bounty`	`its the same list`
`00:18.27`	`Motive`	`not true at all`
`00:18.27`	`Motive`	`:p`
`00:18.42`	`Bounty`	`Then why does the pop list never change`
`00:18.48`	`AlphA_VsT`	`my texture is fucked up gah`
`00:18.50`	`Bounty`	`except when blizz locks the popularity of the popular maps =P`
`00:18.57`	`Bounty`	`which made me lol`
`00:19.18`	`AlphA_VsT`	`they did?`
`00:19.31`	`Bounty`	`Yeah`
`00:19.35`	`AlphA_VsT`	`the whole system is fucked up`
`00:19.37`	`Bounty`	`you didnt notice the front page?`
`00:19.40`	`Bounty`	`its all new maps`
`00:19.43`	`Bounty`	`out of nowhere lol`
`00:19.48`	`AlphA_VsT`	`it got reset 0.o`
`00:19.59`	`AlphA_VsT`	`but yeah`
`00:20.03`	`Bounty`	`plus`
`00:20.09`	`Bounty`	`is it true that your map starts with a rating of 100?`
`00:20.16`	`Bounty`	`bc i cant believe that`
`00:20.18`	`AlphA_VsT`	`they really need a rating system`
`00:20.24`	`Bounty`	`they have a rating system`
`00:20.30`	`Bounty`	`but i heard that every map starts at 100`
`00:20.35`	`Bounty`	`which makes absolutely no sense`
`00:21.00`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no way to change the rating other than fun or not right?`
`00:21.05`	`Bounty`	`yeah`
`00:21.17`	`AlphA_VsT`	`thats not a real rating system :P`
`00:21.21`	`Mexa`	`Europe looks pretty much normal`
`00:21.32`	`Mexa`	`A few maps have arrived, but not all of them`
`00:21.32`	`Bounty`	`yes it is alpha`
`00:21.37`	`Bounty`	`its just ass backwards`
`00:21.40`	`Bounty`	`maps should start at 0`
`00:21.52`	`Bounty`	`maps on the first 3 pages of the pop list are excluded from up and coming`
`00:21.55`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no every map should have a + or - to it`
`00:21.55`	`Bounty`	`and fun or not`
`00:22.07`	`Bounty`	`u can use the popularity system as a rating`
`00:22.07`	`AlphA_VsT`	`so people can actually rate them`
`00:22.20`	`Mexa`	`I think blizzard may be having another problem`
`00:22.31`	`Mexa`	`They are probably sorting based on rating`
`00:22.36`	`Mexa`	`But not the amount of rates`
`00:23.02`	`Bounty`	`I already explained my solution`
`00:23.06`	`AlphA_VsT`	`the system is stupid`
`00:23.12`	`Mexa`	`I missed that solution`
`00:23.25`	`Mexa`	`Better not be as good as Vexal's`
`00:23.29`	`Bounty`	`We all need to buy pairs of Steel Toe Boots, head to Blizz HQ and kick every single Bnet Dev in the nuts`
`00:23.38`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`00:23.40`	`Bounty`	`look them in the eye`
`00:23.41`	`Bounty`	`and say`
`00:23.52`	`Bounty`	`Just get back on track ok?`
`00:23.54`	`Bounty`	`and leave`
`00:23.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`every map should have a feedback button also`
`00:23.58`	`AlphA_VsT`	`wtf`
`00:24.05`	`Bounty`	`u know what sfunny abotu that alpha`
`00:24.08`	`Bounty`	`fucking`
`00:24.11`	`Bounty`	`LITTLE BIG PLANET`
`00:24.15`	`Bounty`	`had a comment section`
`00:24.18`	`Bounty`	`for every map`
`00:24.19`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`00:24.20`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah`
`00:24.22`	`Bounty`	`but Bnet doesnt`
`00:24.35`	`AlphA_VsT`	`they can simply use the users email address`
`00:24.36`	`AlphA_VsT`	`wtf`
`00:24.45`	`Bounty`	`not even that`
`00:24.49`	`Bounty`	`u rdy for this?`
`00:24.55`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i know but thats the cheap way out`
`00:25.00`	`Mexa`	`Did anyone suggest these changes then?`
`00:25.03`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its so simple to implement`
`00:25.09`	`Bounty`	`Kayne West told me that Blizzard does not care about Custom Map People`
`00:25.21`	`Mexa`	`Lol`
`00:25.26`	`AlphA_VsT`	`stoped reading at kayne`
`00:25.35`	`Bounty`	`its true`
`00:25.38`	`Bounty`	`and i proove my point`
`00:25.47`	`Bounty`	`Look at LBP (not even the second one just the first one)`
`00:25.53`	`Bounty`	`LBP is focused on custom content`
`00:26.05`	`Bounty`	`SC2, is focused on E-Sports`
`00:26.06`	`Mexa`	`Kayne West stay out of this...`
`00:26.11`	`Bounty`	`which i dont understand why`
`00:26.14`	`Bounty`	`but it is`
`00:26.26`	`Mexa`	`Because that is what give them profit?`
`00:26.37`	`Bounty`	`See but thats the thing`
`00:26.49`	`Bounty`	`Custom Maps would generate 10x more profit`
`00:27.11`	`Bounty`	`Would bring in an entirely new playerbase`
`00:27.11`	`Mexa`	`Considering how the community is in general, no it wouldn't`
`00:27.20`	`Mexa`	`I don't think so anyway <.<`
`00:27.27`	`Bounty`	`I bought SC2 for custom maps`
`00:27.32`	`Bounty`	`That should say enough`
`00:27.32`	`Mexa`	`Yes`
`00:27.36`	`AlphA_VsT`	`custom maps are half the game`
`00:27.40`	`Mexa`	`So why would custom maps give them more profit?`
`00:27.50`	`Bounty`	`If Blizzard promoted some custom maps as much as they promote E Sports`
`00:27.52`	`Bounty`	`People would see it`
`00:27.54`	`Bounty`	`and be like oh wow`
`00:27.58`	`Bounty`	`im gonna pick that game up`
`00:28.02`	`Bounty`	`it has everything!`
`00:28.08`	`Mexa`	`And I thought you were talking about their marketplace.`
`00:28.23`	`Bounty`	`Well thats a given`
`00:28.24`	`Mexa`	`Oh welll.`
`00:28.26`	`Bounty`	`if they did that`
`00:28.32`	`Bounty`	`Thats atleast a billion dollar industry in its own`
`00:28.38`	`Bounty`	`but they wont`
`00:28.40`	`Mexa`	`No, people would rage`
`00:28.43`	`Mexa`	`As much as they do now`
`00:28.46`	`Mexa`	`Trust me.`
`00:28.47`	`Bounty`	`well ppl should STFU`
`00:28.51`	`Bounty`	`if they dont make maps`
`00:28.53`	`Bounty`	`they should shut the fuck up`
`00:28.55`	`Bounty`	`imo`
`00:29.02`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah`
`00:29.04`	`Bounty`	`u cant speak on that topic if u dont put in the work`
`00:29.16`	`Bounty`	`funny thing is`
`00:29.20`	`Bounty`	`i bet you anything`
`00:29.30`	`Bounty`	`80% of those people are willing to pay 15 bucks for a fucking map pack for CoD`
`00:29.33`	`Mexa`	`The funny thing is... no matter what they will do, it will always go wrong`
`00:29.37`	`Mexa`	`Because of the community`
`00:29.40`	`Bounty`	`but they cant put out 10 cents for somethign someone busted their ass on`
`00:30.09`	`Bounty`	`Yeah i know Mexa`
`00:30.16`	`Bounty`	`Blizzards community is garbage`
`00:30.24`	`Bounty`	`Go play Mafia`
`00:30.26`	`Bounty`	`right now`
`00:30.28`	`Bounty`	`i rest my case`
`00:30.31`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`00:30.36`	`Mexa`	`I mean, they are really stuck between a rock and a hard place.`
`00:31.03`	`Mexa`	`Mafia has a nicer community mm?`
`00:31.07`	`Bounty`	`no`
`00:31.10`	`Bounty`	`its horrible`
`00:31.18`	`Bounty`	`i just said it bc`
`00:31.26`	`Bounty`	`its a good example of how this shitty community ruins a great map`
`00:31.27`	`Bounty`	`that imo`
`00:31.31`	`Bounty`	`they dont even deserve to play it`
`00:31.40`	`Mexa`	`Mm yeah.`
`00:31.46`	`Bounty`	`Also`
`00:32.02`	`Bounty`	`I made an arguement on why internet gaming communities in general will only get worse`
`00:32.06`	`Bounty`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztd8Z1qbJ0c`
`00:32.08`	`Bounty`	`watch that`
`00:32.10`	`Bounty`	`BUT`
`00:32.20`	`Bounty`	`replace the word "women" with "Internet Troll"`
`00:32.25`	`Bounty`	`and ull see my point ><`
`00:33.24`	`Mexa`	`Lol`
`00:33.35`	`Bounty`	`Thats the problem imo lol`
`00:33.37`	`Mexa`	`I get your point`
`00:33.38`	`Bounty`	`im sure u got it`
`00:33.40`	`Mexa`	`<.<`
`00:33.54`	`Nash\|327`	`so now to add the handicap system thingmabob`
`00:34.04`	`Nash\|327`	`I added a boss bar`
`00:34.04`	`Mexa`	`Ah yes`
`00:34.13`	`Nash\|327`	`and attribute pickups`
`00:34.24`	`Nash\|327`	`and KAMIKAZE MUTAS`
`00:34.28`	`Bounty`	`I bet you dont see many people at LAN Cafes spamming the word Nigger while they play with people who sit right next to them`
`00:34.30`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`00:34.37`	`Mexa`	`:) Neat, more content`
`00:34.54`	`Mexa`	`Bounty, probably not`
`00:35.01`	`Nash\|327`	`and a periodic trigger that indicates your next objective`
`00:35.02`	`Mexa`	`Speaking of that`
`00:35.15`	`Nash\|327`	`as I noticed people don't always know where to go D_D`
`00:35.17`	`Mexa`	`The real id idea, did you guys hate that?`
`00:35.25`	`Bounty`	`yeah`
`00:35.27`	`Bounty`	`that was stupid`
`00:35.28`	`Nash\|327`	`they miss the 1st ping and are like WTF NAO`
`00:35.32`	`Mexa`	`But was it really?`
`00:35.37`	`Bounty`	`this whole facebook shit is annoying`
`00:35.47`	`Mexa`	`It would reduce the amount of trolling`
`00:35.56`	`Bounty`	`oh`
`00:35.59`	`Bounty`	`i see wut u did thar`
`00:36.01`	`Bounty`	`=P`
`00:36.04`	`Nash\|327`	`trolling isn't all that big of a deal`
`00:36.05`	`Bounty`	`good point`
`00:36.10`	`Bounty`	`lol yes it is Nash`
`00:36.13`	`Bounty`	`like i just said`
`00:36.14`	`Bounty`	`go play Mafia`
`00:36.16`	`Bounty`	`right now`
`00:36.21`	`AlphA_VsT`	`why`
`00:36.21`	`Bounty`	`or atleast TRY to`
`00:36.30`	`Mexa`	`People would no longer be secure behind their computer being anonymous, I mean:p`
`00:36.36`	`Mexa`	`Or something`
`00:36.36`	`Nash\|327`	`take away anonymity on the Internet and HERE COMES 1984!`
`00:36.48`	`Mexa`	`wait, lol 1984?`
`00:36.52`	`Bounty`	`the book?`
`00:36.56`	`Nash\|327`	`Which is far more serious a matter than basement dwelling trolls`
`00:36.58`	`Nash\|327`	`D_D`
`00:37.08`	`Bounty`	`lol it has nothing to do with that book`
`00:37.19`	`Nash\|327`	`yes, it does`
`00:37.22`	`Bounty`	`it has to do with people cant be allowed to hide behind their computers`
`00:37.31`	`Bounty`	`bc ppl are evil douche bags`
`00:37.40`	`Nash\|327`	`Everything you say is tied to your identity`
`00:37.48`	`Bounty`	`and whats the problem?`
`00:37.53`	`Bounty`	`dont be an asshole`
`00:37.53`	`Nash\|327`	`register everything`
`00:37.55`	`Bounty`	`and ull be ok`
`00:37.56`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`00:38.06`	`Nash\|327`	`THOUGHT CRIME DETECTED`
`00:38.51`	`Mexa`	`Though.. the real id could probably already have been broken by the personal integrity`
`00:38.54`	`Nash\|327`	`Governments already keep records of people's political views, non-anonymous Internet would just make it so much easier D_D`
`00:39.22`	`Nash\|327`	`and what about online support groups for AA or such?`
`00:39.40`	`Nash\|327`	`Non-anonymous alcoholics`
`00:39.45`	`Bounty`	`ok well how about this`
`00:39.52`	`Bounty`	`Blizz can ban u for trolling on the forums`
`00:39.59`	`Bounty`	`Why the fuck dont they ban people for trolling in the game`
`00:40.08`	`Bounty`	`i dont HAVE to read troll forums`
`00:40.09`	`Mexa`	`If the people are reported, they are`
`00:40.13`	`Bounty`	`but i do have to put up with trolls in the game`
`00:40.19`	`Bounty`	`i doubt that Mexa lol`
`00:40.24`	`Mexa`	`I'm sure of it`
`00:40.24`	`Nash\|327`	`define troll`
`00:40.35`	`Bounty`	`douche bag`
`00:40.39`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`00:40.45`	`Nash\|327`	`define douche bag`
`00:40.53`	`Bounty`	`Rodrigo`
`00:41.06`	`Mexa`	`"you suck you idiot, this was a piece of crap game, stupid cheesy photon rush, tard"`
`00:41.10`	`Mexa`	`:3`
`00:41.11`	`Nash\|327`	`See, what people don't like is subjective`
`00:41.19`	`Nash\|327`	`People call me troll, I don't even troll.`
`00:41.23`	`Mexa`	`Mephs and Rodrigo is on thin ice already aren't they?`
`00:41.24`	`Bounty`	`Nash`
`00:41.31`	`Bounty`	`u know exactly what we are talking about`
`00:41.33`	`Mexa`	`Also, hi Mephs`
`00:41.44`	`Bounty`	`we're tlaking about out of control trolls`
`00:41.44`	`Nash\|327`	`I'm just opinionated and have very different ideas compared to most people.`
`00:41.47`	`Bounty`	`calling everyone nigger`
`00:41.49`	`Bounty`	`and ruining games`
`00:42.07`	`Nash\|327`	`Fair enough.`
`00:42.15`	`Mexa`	`Bounty, there is a report button on players' profiles`
`00:43.22`	`Mexa`	`or rather`
`00:43.36`	`Mexa`	`you right click the player's name, press more... and then "report player"`
`00:43.48`	`Nash\|327`	`Having report systems without bery clear guidelines just leads to conformism where anyone people don't like is reported`
`00:43.56`	`Mexa`	`Blizzard deal with these stuff, as much as they deal with people being reported for cheating`
`00:44.22`	`Nash\|327`	`and you end up with a circle jerk of people who are all the same`
`00:44.32`	`Mexa`	`Nash, they are probably looking at replays at that time`
`00:45.35`	`Nash\|327`	`If you think people are evil douche bags, do you really want a system where people, i.e. evil douche bags, decide what goes?`
`00:46.13`	`Mexa`	`Nahs, also, the report system is pretty precise imo.`
`00:46.44`	`Mexa`	`And what do you mean with that?`
`00:46.54`	`Nash\|327`	`It is subject to rules, and rules are not flawless.`
`00:47.42`	`Mexa`	`What if it is mentioned in the battle.net policy?`
`00:47.54`	`Stewox`	`somebody find the Ladik's tutorial ...`
`00:48.12`	`Nash\|327`	`I mean that report/karma/whatever systems just leads to douche bags reporting anyone they don't like, assuming people are douche bags.`
`00:48.39`	`Nash\|327`	`And report systems are based on rules, and no rules are ever perfect.`
`00:50.54`	`Nash\|327`	`If people are such evil douche bags the wasted manpower filtering out frivilous complaints will be huge, and some people who shouldn't be banned will also be banned.`
`00:51.25`	`JManV`	`well, they can gauge based on frequency of complaints, and they typically only temp bann`
`00:51.34`	`JManV`	`if you get perma-banned, you are repeat offender`
`00:51.42`	`JManV`	`or you did something so heinous`
`00:52.03`	`Nash\|327`	`or someone else did using your account`
`00:52.46`	`Mexa`	`Well in that case you either have no real friends, or some guy hacked your account already, and probably took it by storm.`
`00:52.47`	`JManV`	`well, then your account is already compromised`
`00:54.05`	`Nash\|327`	`Not necessarily hacked, some moron might just think it was fun to use it while you went to get a soda D_D`
`00:54.22`	`Nash\|327`	`like facerape`
`00:55.39`	`JManV`	`it'd be hard to get permbanned for that`
`00:55.42`	`JManV`	`prolly get a week`
`00:55.55`	`Nash\|327`	`still a week`
`00:56.03`	`JManV`	`even then, that'd only be on instance, and would not likely raise the eire of blizz at all`
`00:56.28`	`Nash\|327`	`no system will be perfect, and I don't think more rules is better`
`00:56.34`	`JManV`	`but if someone is bm'ing all over bnet, it's likely to raise their eire quickly`
`00:57.21`	`Nash\|327`	`I've never been big on rules anyway.`
`00:58.38`	`JManV`	`well, no cheating is an obv one`
`00:58.47`	`JManV`	`i think "don't be rodrigo" is pretty obv as well`
`00:59.07`	`Nash\|327`	`cheating can be useful`
`00:59.12`	`JManV`	`apparently not to him tho`
`00:59.26`	`Nash\|327`	`I used maphack in SC1`
`00:59.41`	`JManV`	`how is that useful?`
`00:59.43`	`Nash\|327`	`because it showed you the map revealers`
`01:00.22`	`Nash\|327`	`I only used it for map testing`
`01:00.24`	`JManV`	`its an unfair advantage and it ruins the fun for legitamate players`
`01:02.50`	`JManV`	`well that doesn't really count as cheating`
`01:03.25`	`Nash\|327`	`maphacks aren't allowed though, using them breaks the rules`
`01:03.39`	`Nash\|327`	`regardless of purpose :G`
`01:04.34`	`Nash\|327`	`hacks would be useful for debug in MP when you don't want to code your own debug cheat functions`
`01:04.41`	`Nash\|327`	`saves work`
`01:04.55`	`Stewox`	`anyone knows if it's possible to edit a MPQ contence without having to recreate it , (attributes) , listfile can be modified nicely however`
`01:05.11`	`Mexa`	`lols.. people are using the cheat engine to win the new blizzard achievements.`
`01:05.25`	`JManV`	`but its highly unlikely to get noticed... ever`
`01:06.05`	`Mexa`	`I wonder... wouldn't warden already have protection vs the cheat engine?`
`01:06.16`	`Nash\|327`	`moral absolutism is flawed D;`
`01:06.25`	`Mexa`	`I mean, scanning those offsets...`
`01:07.33`	`Stewox`	`okay what about this`
`01:07.50`	`Nash\|327`	`not that big deal you can't use hacks though, I do lots of SP testing with cheats anyway`
`01:07.56`	`Stewox`	`is (listfile) and (attributes) only needed for MPQ editors or it's for the game exe necessary ?`
`01:08.00`	`Stewox`	`!!!!`
`01:08.02`	`Nash\|327`	`terribleterribledamage is your friend`
`01:09.19`	`Nash\|327`	`terribleterribledamage + moredotsmoredots + hanshotfirst and I can get around my map quickly using the tech class :P`
`01:10.27`	`Mexa`	`Stewox, we are not that hardcore`
`01:10.31`	`Mexa`	`To know`
`01:10.36`	`Stewox`	`lol`
`01:10.47`	`Nash\|327`	`I prefer not to have lots of debug stuff in the map, which you end up forgetting to remove`
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`01:11.31`	`Nash\|327`	`if I need to, I add it, test, and then remove it after, last I forget`
`01:11.33`	`sugoi`	`can i change the scale of a unit via data-mngr? not just with a trigger?`
`01:11.45`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yes`
`01:11.54`	`sugoi`	`having trouble finding that`
`01:11.54`	`Nash\|327`	`indeed`
`01:12.03`	`Nash\|327`	`actor scaling?`
`01:12.11`	`sugoi`	`oh, with an actor`
`01:12.22`	`sugoi`	`k, i was expecting to find it in the data`
`01:12.39`	`Nash\|327`	`well, you'd scale ALL units of that type`
`01:12.44`	`sugoi`	`well sure`
`01:12.57`	`Nash\|327`	`unless you add actor events that scale them when certain behaviors are applied and whatevs`
`01:12.58`	`sugoi`	`i would be happy making a custom unit type as well for this upurpose`
`01:13.15`	`Nash\|327`	`open the actor, type in scale in the filter box`
`01:13.28`	`Nash\|327`	`you'll see the X Y Z scaling factors`
`01:13.32`	`sugoi`	`basically i want some units (could be a custom unit) to be a different scale the entire time`
`01:13.37`	`sugoi`	`ok`
`01:14.37`	`Nash\|327`	`Mexaface`
`01:15.15`	`Nash\|327`	`throws kittuns at Mexa`
`01:15.22`	`sugoi`	`cool, got it`
`01:15.24`	`sugoi`	`thanks guys`
`01:15.34`	`Mexa`	`amagawnd`
`01:15.50`	`Nash\|327`	`how about...`
`01:15.52`	`Mexa`	`catches with a leap of fate.`
`01:15.56`	`Nash\|327`	`at the end of the map`
`01:16.31`	`Nash\|327`	`you have overlords which you can kill to make lesser zerg go nuts and attack the bigger ones`
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`01:17.08`	`Mexa`	`lesser zerg?`
`01:17.15`	`Mexa`	`hydras, lings, roaches?`
`01:17.20`	`Nash\|327`	`yes`
`01:17.54`	`Mexa`	`Hmm, but in what logic:P?`
`01:18.21`	`Nash\|327`	`you wanted me to add some more stuff to make it more unique`
`01:18.25`	`Nash\|327`	`:G`
`01:18.29`	`Mexa`	`Well sure`
`01:18.56`	`Mexa`	`I am just trying to follow, so if you kill an overlord, lesser zergs will start attacking their allies?`
`01:19.02`	`Nash\|327`	`yes`
`01:19.11`	`Mexa`	`But why:)?`
`01:19.23`	`Nash\|327`	`it'd be like dropping a bomb in a room`
`01:19.54`	`Nash\|327`	`weaken up the hard ones with precision strikes`
`01:19.57`	`Mexa`	`I wouldn't be attacking other people if I found a bomb in my room.`
`01:20.15`	`Nash\|327`	`go in, take out overlord, retreat, watch the havoc`
`01:20.35`	`Mexa`	`hmm right, so a sort of confusion?`
`01:21.00`	`Nash\|327`	`yes and you'd kill off a lot of small units and weaken the bigger ones`
`01:22.06`	`Mexa`	`The idea sounds fine alright`
`01:22.13`	`Mexa`	`but`
`01:22.56`	`Mexa`	`Wouldn't it be better to sort of have it like a parasite?`
`01:23.19`	`Mexa`	`In that way it would make more sense in a way, as if they were controlled by something else:P`
`01:23.23`	`Nash\|327`	`don't want to add more abilities`
`01:23.42`	`Mexa`	`Well the overlord could be infested already`
`01:23.44`	`Mexa`	`lol`
`01:23.59`	`Mexa`	`I am just trying to think about an idea behind the scene :>`
`01:24.27`	`Mexa`	`Maybe I shouldn't.`
`01:24.35`	`Nash\|327`	`you still need to actively do something, without using a new ability, which is why killing fits`
`01:25.15`	`Nash\|327`	`they could be in the back a bit so if you just attack-move fight you won't have any use for it`
`01:25.40`	`Nash\|327`	`but if you go in shields up, nuke it with a high damage ability and leg it, it'd be effective`
`01:25.52`	`Mexa`	`mm`
`01:27.41`	`Mexa`	`Nash, btw, you could always use the assets from Left 2 Die, to make it more variated.`
`01:28.06`	`Nash\|327`	`it has other assets?`
`01:28.11`	`Mexa`	`yup`
`01:28.15`	`Mexa`	`A few more zerg models`
`01:28.27`	`Mexa`	`(And more terran models too for the record)`
`01:28.40`	`Nash\|327`	`same as Meinhoff mission though, no?`
`01:28.45`	`Mexa`	`Nope`
`01:28.55`	`Mexa`	`These are found in the Left 2 Die mod`
`01:29.29`	`Mexa`	`We could say the Left 2 Die map is the upped version of the Meinhoff mission.`
`01:29.44`	`Mexa`	`And it has more content indeed.`
`01:32.06`	`Nash\|327`	`I added Left 2 Die dependency but I don't see any new units`
`01:34.33`	`Stewox`	`i hope TextureReductionValues.txt works as i think it does`
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`01:35.43`	`Mexa`	`@Sixen are you there?`
`01:36.20`	`Mexa`	`Nash, well, there should be`
`01:36.38`	`Mexa`	`Nash, I think you need to download the mod first from battle.net`
`01:36.44`	`Mexa`	`Then replace the folder you have in Mods`
`01:36.49`	`Mexa`	`With that one`
`01:36.58`	`Mexa`	`To get all content`
`01:38.23`	`Sixen`	`Sup`
`01:39.09`	`Nash\|327`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/left-2-die-mod/images/3-all-of-the-units/ meh`
`01:39.10`	`Stewox`	`sixen`
`01:39.14`	`Nash\|327`	`not worth the hassle`
`01:39.20`	`Mexa`	`@sixen, we have a guy in the MLP thread that first is predending he is a child molester, and then he is claiming everyone else is`
`01:39.25`	`Mexa`	`Can you do something about him?`
`01:39.36`	`Stewox`	`does SC2 have Format 4 MPQ's or still Format 3`
`01:39.38`	`Sixen`	`o_O`
`01:39.47`	`Stewox`	`Cataclysm has format 4`
`01:39.52`	`Sixen`	`I dunno what that means Stewox ;X`
`01:40.00`	`Stewox`	`and Ladik's MPQ editor started supporting it`
`01:40.29`	`Stewox`	`meh okay , will figure it out , trial and error :P`
`01:40.34`	`Sixen`	`:X`
`01:42.09`	`AlphA_VsT`	`getting the size correct for these etxtures is frustrating :(`
`01:43.50`	`Mexa`	`Stewox, I would think thaat they are using another format, the difference is that their listfile is complete`
`01:44.08`	`Stewox`	`well`
`01:44.19`	`Stewox`	`it doesn't says anyhwere what forumat is currently opened`
`01:44.23`	`Mexa`	`Sc2 uses lzma compression, which is different from the others found earlier.`
`01:44.25`	`Stewox`	`but ill sarch if it is`
`01:44.32`	`Stewox`	`really ?`
`01:44.37`	`Mexa`	`Yeah`
`01:44.38`	`Stewox`	`it is really LZMA ?`
`01:44.42`	`Mexa`	`Yup`
`01:44.43`	`Stewox`	`i used SPARSE`
`01:44.53`	`Stewox`	`because it also says SC2 uses it`
`01:45.14`	`Stewox`	`according to ladiks editor (have the newest version , downloaded like a minute ago)`
`01:45.28`	`Stewox`	`i mean, i didn't tested yet anything`
`01:45.33`	`Stewox`	`just trying to be sure before i do`
`01:46.11`	`Mexa`	`Judging by wikipedia anyway`
`01:46.11`	`Mexa`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPQ`
`01:46.20`	`Mexa`	`Starcraft 2 introduced LZMA`
`01:46.52`	`Stewox`	`Ahhh now i get it`
`01:47.04`	`Stewox`	`ZLIB is supported anyways , it's normal`
`01:47.09`	`Stewox`	`but it also supports more than that`
`01:47.32`	`Stewox`	`so that's why ... the predefined SC2 ruleset points to ZLIB only (no encryption)`
`01:47.51`	`Stewox`	`but the editor says SPARSE and LZMA also supported by SC2 ,`
`01:48.03`	`Stewox`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:48.34`	`AlphA_VsT`	`sparse sounds smaller`
`01:48.39`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:P`
`01:48.42`	`Mexa`	`Never knew about sparse.`
`01:49.27`	`Stewox`	`yeah that's something more ... no mentions of it not even a wiki page`
`01:49.43`	`Nash\|327`	`alrighty, to add auto difficulty`
`01:49.45`	`Stewox`	`so im going for LZMA , this is also , im making a tut , i need this to be accruate for others ...`
`01:50.08`	`AlphA_VsT`	`auto difficulty rocks Nash\|327 :D`
`01:50.22`	`Stewox`	`thanks mexa for finiding that , i missed`
`01:51.00`	`Mexa`	`noproblemo`
`01:55.57`	`Nash\|327`	`so how does handicap work?`
`01:56.16`	`Nash\|327`	`sets max health, but the values are what?`
`01:56.22`	`Mexa`	`It strips the total health of the enemy by the desired percent`
`01:56.32`	`Mexa`	`So 100% handicap are normal`
`01:56.40`	`Mexa`	`80% handicap is a reduction of 20% health`
`01:56.50`	`Mexa`	`From what I know.`
`01:57.17`	`Nash\|327`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/10956-how-to-use-handicap/`
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`01:57.33`	`Nash\|327`	`this claims there are certain set percentages`
`01:57.44`	`Mexa`	`oh`
`01:57.51`	`Nash\|327`	`but the OP never confirmed it worked`
`01:58.01`	`Nash\|327`	`so I don't trust it D_D`
`01:58.51`	`Mexa`	`hm`
`01:59.51`	`AlphA_VsT`	`units start at 80% health...`
`02:00.14`	`Mexa`	`Nash`
`02:00.17`	`Nash\|327`	`maximum or current?`
`02:00.23`	`Mexa`	`it seems to be fixed values at certain indices`
`02:00.25`	`AlphA_VsT`	`current`
`02:00.35`	`Mexa`	`Alpha, you sure?`
`02:00.41`	`AlphA_VsT`	`so they would have 80/100 when created`
`02:00.45`	`Mexa`	`The lobby always starts at 100`
`02:00.50`	`Mexa`	`when meeting an AI`
`02:00.52`	`Mexa`	`or player`
`02:01.09`	`Nash\|327`	`then they will just regenerate to full :/`
`02:01.32`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah but its only for created units or at least thats how it worked in sc1 :P`
`02:01.54`	`Mexa`	`Nahs, the handicap values are determined by an index`
`02:02.12`	`Mexa`	`so 0 = 50%, 1 = 60%, 2 = 70% ... up to 5 = 100%`
`02:02.15`	`Mexa`	`By default`
`02:02.34`	`Nash\|327`	`that's what the thread said, but...`
`02:02.37`	`Mexa`	`These can be configurated too, like the ^guy said in the thread`
`02:02.41`	`Nash\|327`	`HOW DO YOU KNOW?`
`02:02.55`	`Mexa`	`know what?`
`02:02.56`	`Nash\|327`	`[citation needed]`
`02:03.02`	`Mexa`	`Hum`
`02:03.18`	`Mexa`	`Well, just try it, at 50% it should have half the health of 100% ni?`
`02:03.20`	`Mexa`	`*no`
`02:03.43`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yes`
`02:03.50`	`Nash\|327`	`guess I'll have to test`
`02:06.35`	`Stewox`	`hmm , i'll test something , get back , .. this stuff needs me to unplug the internet , :)`
`02:08.35`	`Nash\|327`	`handicap 0 made all the units unkillable`
`02:08.56`	`Nash\|327`	`awesome`
`02:09.40`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`02:10.08`	`AlphA_VsT`	`a handicap of 0 lol`
`02:11.20`	`Nash\|327`	`what's lol about it?`
`02:11.29`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i think i got the grid`
`02:11.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`weee`
`02:11.56`	`Nash\|327`	`FUCKING HANDICAPS, HOW DO THEY WORK?`
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`02:12.22`	`Mexa`	`hm`
`02:12.40`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`02:12.40`	`Mexa`	`You set the handicap property through triggers right?`
`02:12.47`	`Nash\|327`	`yes`
`02:13.00`	`AlphA_VsT`	`you have to create a unit`
`02:13.54`	`Mexa`	`The handicap should affect all units`
`02:14.07`	`Nash\|327`	`apparently it does by making them unkillable`
`02:14.22`	`Mexa`	`what happend if you try the index 1?`
`02:15.16`	`Nash\|327`	`I'm going to try... 50!`
`02:15.21`	`Mexa`	`yeah`
`02:15.39`	`Mexa`	`I suspect it could be that easy, but the first poster had issues with that`
`02:15.56`	`Mexa`	`He said..`
`02:16.28`	`Mexa`	`yep`
`02:16.33`	`Mexa`	`100 results in 100%`
`02:16.55`	`Nash\|327`	`50 works for me`
`02:16.58`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`02:17.23`	`Mexa`	`never checked how old the thread was`
`02:17.29`	`AlphA_VsT`	`so apprently the grid is 57 pixals`
`02:17.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`wtf`
`02:17.32`	`AlphA_VsT`	`why 57`
`02:17.35`	`AlphA_VsT`	`0.o`
`02:17.38`	`Nash\|327`	`so the unconfirmed guess about indexes was bullshit`
`02:17.48`	`Nash\|327`	`never trust people's guesses`
`02:17.49`	`Mexa`	`so it seems:p`
`02:17.51`	`Nash\|327`	`;G`
`02:18.02`	`AlphA_VsT`	`why the fuck is the grid 57 pixals`
`02:18.25`	`Mexa`	`what grid`
`02:18.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`the placement grid`
`02:18.48`	`Mexa`	`the terrainmap?`
`02:18.49`	`AlphA_VsT`	`57x57`
`02:19.15`	`Mexa`	`it counts the cells as 56x56`
`02:19.27`	`Mexa`	`all values of a map size is the amount of cells`
`02:20.00`	`Mexa`	`So it means the maxvalue of the grid is 57x57`
`02:20.06`	`Mexa`	`and minvalue 0x0`
`02:20.10`	`Nash\|327`	`so 1-2 = 60%, 3-4 = 80%, 5-6 = 100%`
`02:20.54`	`Mexa`	`sure, if you don't want it to be overly specific:P`
`02:21.01`	`AlphA_VsT`	`im aligin my textures to like up on the grid`
`02:21.11`	`AlphA_VsT`	`errr cant type`
`02:22.08`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i landed on 56 was to small and 58 was over 0.o`
`02:22.18`	`Nash\|327`	`eh I'll just do 100-(6-playercount)*10`
`02:22.46`	`Mexa`	`Nash, yeah that sounds more funny :) simple algoritms ftw`
`02:22.58`	`Mexa`	`*fun to have`
`02:23.02`	`Mexa`	`*practical`
`02:23.06`	`Mexa`	`*derp`
`02:23.11`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`02:23.38`	`AlphA_VsT`	`whats the max players?`
`02:23.41`	`Mexa`	`'I agreed'. That will due`
`02:24.11`	`AlphA_VsT`	`so 57x57 now i can start painting my textures`
`02:24.15`	`AlphA_VsT`	`weeee lol`
`02:25.12`	`Nash\|327`	`6 players`
`02:26.29`	`AlphA_VsT`	`makes sense`
`02:26.56`	`Mexa`	`blergh`
`02:27.06`	`Mexa`	`I need to get up in 3Â½ hours`
`02:27.13`	`Mexa`	`How am I suppose to manage that <.<?`
`02:27.55`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Well, seeya guys`
`02:28.01`	`AlphA_VsT`	`what is 3A1/2 hours?`
`02:28.03`	`Nash\|327`	`by not sleeping`
`02:28.10`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:D`
`02:28.24`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`3.5 hours`
`02:28.28`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`:>`
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`02:28.50`	`Nash\|327`	`3:30`
`02:29.02`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Nash, I better get at least 1 hour`
`02:29.09`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`02:29.14`	`Nash\|327`	`powernap instead`
`02:29.20`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Pretty much`
`02:29.29`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`But I am going to be all messy in the head`
`02:29.35`	`Nash\|327`	`1 hour isn't a powernap`
`02:29.38`	`AlphA_VsT`	`http://i.imgur.com/LawWF.jpg that looks correct right? i just want a second look at it`
`02:29.46`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I know, but rather 30minutes`
`02:29.46`	`Nash\|327`	`You need to sleep <15 min`
`02:29.54`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`oh meh.__`
`02:30.08`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I wont be able to sleep before the alarm will ring for that`
`02:30.51`	`Nash\|327`	`well, you can set it on 15 + time to fall asleep`
`02:30.57`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Alarm, it looks great, but I don't know what I should watch at`
`02:31.12`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`fuck`
`02:31.15`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`...`
`02:31.21`	`Nash\|327`	`Alarm!`
`02:31.37`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Alpha, i don't know what part I should look at, I don't know what it differed since before.`
`02:31.40`	`Nash\|327`	`looks fine to me, Alarm`
`02:31.54`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`~_`
`02:31.55`	`purl`	`hmm... _ is ALT-255`
`02:32.13`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`<.<`
`02:32.19`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Yeah, I better go`
`02:32.21`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Seeya`
`02:32.26`	`AlphA_VsT`	`oh i just need to know if the texture looks correct... aligned to the grid`
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`02:32.33`	`Nash\|327`	`lies`
`02:32.36`	`Nash\|327`	`you never go`
`02:32.44`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`to bed yes`
`02:32.48`	`Nash\|327`	`just claim to`
`02:32.48`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Moving the laptop now!`
`02:32.57`	`Nash\|327`	`and then OH LOOK HERE YOU ARE`
`02:33.05`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`:3`
`02:33.21`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I will do my best not to, alright?`
`02:33.26`	`Nash\|327`	`lies`
`02:33.58`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`zz z z`
`02:34.22`	`Stewox`	`hm`
`02:34.41`	`AlphA_VsT`	`?`
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`02:36.46`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Maknyuzz (4c68b5c3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.104.181.195)`
`02:36.52`	`Maknyuzz`	`hi guys`
`02:37.07`	`Maknyuzz`	`did u guys look at the most popular tab after embargo from blizzard?`
`02:37.35`	`Maknyuzz`	`this proves that most players dont even bother going through page 2`
`02:37.55`	`AlphA_VsT`	`of course they dont`
`02:37.56`	`Maknyuzz`	`or even search`
`02:38.02`	`Maknyuzz`	`or perhaps using the bookmark`
`02:38.05`	`AlphA_VsT`	`thats why its flawed`
`02:38.11`	`Maknyuzz`	`think about it`
`02:38.18`	`Maknyuzz`	`there are 1,500,000 players on bnet`
`02:38.20`	`Maknyuzz`	`on peak hours`
`02:38.30`	`Maknyuzz`	`and we only see 12000 bookmarks on maps like sotis`
`02:38.43`	`Maknyuzz`	`are u saying the user base of sotis only 12000?`
`02:38.49`	`AlphA_VsT`	`because its not used`
`02:38.54`	`Maknyuzz`	`exactly...`
`02:39.15`	`Maknyuzz`	`rodrigo's map also shining after embargo`
`02:39.20`	`AlphA_VsT`	`if they made the deafult page fun or not`
`02:39.24`	`AlphA_VsT`	`thats all that would be played`
`02:39.34`	`Maknyuzz`	`nuff said`
`02:40.17`	`Maknyuzz`	`i mean if people still searching and bookmarking sotis starbattle etc etc`
`02:40.18`	`AlphA_VsT`	`first thing people see shouldnt be a list of the popular shit i think they proved that`
`02:40.31`	`Maknyuzz`	`how come zillion zergling got 12000 hours`
`02:40.39`	`Maknyuzz`	`thats the same hours of sotis before embage`
`02:40.45`	`Maknyuzz`	`exactly`
`02:40.55`	`Maknyuzz`	`i think first list is fun or not`
`02:41.04`	`Maknyuzz`	`i mean the default tab`
`02:41.13`	`Maknyuzz`	`if u wanna go for most popular go to most popular tab`
`02:41.19`	`Maknyuzz`	`i mean even apple app store or android market do that`
`02:41.28`	`Maknyuzz`	`they dont do most popular as default view`
`02:41.41`	`Maknyuzz`	`they do whats new and noteworthy`
`02:41.57`	`Maknyuzz`	`as default view when u first go into the store`
`02:43.42`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah`
`02:44.00`	`Maknyuzz`	`i hope blizz did the embargo for testing purposes`
`02:44.02`	`AlphA_VsT`	`up and coming would be the best bet for them to do though`
`02:44.15`	`Maknyuzz`	`the dont have to remove most popular or featured thb`
`02:44.18`	`Maknyuzz`	`tbh*`
`02:44.25`	`Maknyuzz`	`just make the default view something else`
`02:44.51`	`AlphA_VsT`	`and they need to get rid of old map versions 0.o and replace it with the new one 0.o`
`02:45.01`	`Maknyuzz`	`oh and there is a bug too`
`02:45.16`	`Maknyuzz`	`u can release game under the same name with different variance`
`02:45.42`	`Maknyuzz`	`i.e. Debates with game speed normal and game speed faster`
`02:46.02`	`Maknyuzz`	`shares the same count of bookmark #`
`02:46.27`	`AlphA_VsT`	`they need to do a complete redo of the system 0.o`
`02:46.28`	`Maknyuzz`	`star battle guy did that this morning and passed the embargo lolz`
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`02:46.46`	`Stewox`	`yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaah`
`02:46.51`	`Maknyuzz`	`no need to redo the system imo. just copy apple app store`
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`02:47.19`	`Stewox`	`fucking works`
`02:47.20`	`Stewox`	`:D`
`02:47.34`	`Maknyuzz`	`meanwhile there;s news WoW 2 officially announced`
`02:47.34`	`AlphA_VsT`	`what works`
`02:47.36`	`Maknyuzz`	`http://www.gamepur.com/news/3305-world-warcraft-2-officially-announced-its-dubbed-wow-killer.html`
`02:47.44`	`Stewox`	`i'll show you`
`02:47.46`	`Maknyuzz`	`perhaps bs rumor`
`02:47.47`	`AlphA_VsT`	`um`
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`02:48.31`	`AlphA_VsT`	`they are not g oing to make another wow mmo...`
`02:48.41`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its something completly new...`
`02:49.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Project Titan.`
`02:49.12`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yes`
`02:49.22`	`Stewox`	`you guys wanna see this`
`02:49.41`	`Stewox`	`it's not what i meant finally , but it's funny`
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`02:49.50`	`EnTaroDHo`	`hey guys quick question`
`02:50.00`	`Stewox`	`althought the final will be done in some days , need to figure out completely`
`02:50.02`	`EnTaroDHo`	`did blizzard ever add that wrap around map`
`02:50.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`?`
`02:50.19`	`Maknyuzz`	`what wrap?`
`02:50.27`	`JademusSreg`	`No.`
`02:50.56`	`JademusSreg`	`Maps are not toroidal. D=`
`02:51.05`	`EnTaroDHo`	`what>`
`02:51.07`	`EnTaroDHo`	`?`
`02:51.11`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`02:51.14`	`EnTaroDHo`	`you know what im talking about right??`
`02:51.29`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm tired as fuck. Going to sleep, watching Adult Swim.`
`02:51.31`	`JademusSreg`	`Later.`
`02:51.36`	`EnTaroDHo`	`peace bro`
`02:51.38`	`AlphA_VsT`	`instead of a plane you want a sphere`
`02:52.01`	`AlphA_VsT`	`do it with triggers 0.o`
`02:53.51`	`EnTaroDHo`	`i think it would look weird if something teleports across the map :/`
`02:55.06`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`02:55.42`	`EnTaroDHo`	`:(`
`02:55.47`	`AlphA_VsT`	`sad face`
`02:56.00`	`EnTaroDHo`	`is there a way to keep a unit from a region?`
`02:56.03`	`EnTaroDHo`	`er`
`02:56.09`	`EnTaroDHo`	`keep a unit within a region`
`02:56.44`	`Nash\|327`	`if it leaves give it a move order back?`
`02:56.48`	`Nash\|327`	`block it in?`
`02:57.28`	`Stewox`	`just one more test`
`02:58.00`	`EnTaroDHo`	`i wish big blue was still being updated QQ`
`02:58.08`	`EnTaroDHo`	`i never got to play it TT`
`02:58.17`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`03:02.35`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`check out the campaign. The final mission where you play as protoss is having forcefield objects on the map, causing somewhat the unit to be pushed backwards when attemting to go through`
`03:02.42`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Also, hi...`
`03:03.24`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Now after the urge of sayiing that.. Goodnight`
`03:05.17`	`Nash\|327`	`the final mission?`
`03:06.22`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`the protoss final mission`
`03:06.43`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`the prophecy sidemissions`
`03:06.55`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`yeah..`
`03:07.10`	`Nash\|327`	`where you eventually die?`
`03:07.16`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`that's the one`
`03:07.23`	`Nash\|327`	`I don't recall any force fields`
`03:07.25`	`Nash\|327`	`huh`
`03:07.36`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`No, don't take it literally`
`03:08.14`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`If you open the map there are some sort of objects which cuts units from going to the part where all the zerg units are spawning`
`03:08.24`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hmmm fuck me im so confused QQ`
`03:08.44`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`so I called them forcefields`
`03:08.51`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`03:09.14`	`AlphA_VsT`	`if you load the campian mod`
`03:09.16`	`Nash\|327`	`pathing blockers?`
`03:09.17`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its in there`
`03:09.22`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its a unit`
`03:09.24`	`EnTaroDHo`	`pathing pain`
`03:09.27`	`EnTaroDHo`	`paint`
`03:09.31`	`EnTaroDHo`	`hybrid?`
`03:11.03`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`ah`
`03:11.10`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`They are called Repulsor Fields`
`03:11.18`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yes`
`03:11.24`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`With no model`
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`03:11.29`	`AlphA_VsT`	`they havea model`
`03:11.34`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its a green thing`
`03:11.35`	`Stewox`	`bwhahahaah`
`03:11.54`	`AlphA_VsT`	`same ones used in the challanges`
`03:11.54`	`Stewox`	`im dying , i can't stop laughing`
`03:12.12`	`Stewox`	`man this was fun`
`03:12.52`	`AlphA_VsT`	`?`
`03:13.28`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Alpha, they are invinsible in that specific map though.`
`03:13.45`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`slaps himself`
`03:13.55`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Anyways...`
`03:18.25`	`Nash\|327`	`YOU ARE NOT SLEEPING`
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`03:20.45`	`Stewox`	`anyone still here ?`
`03:20.50`	`Nash\|327`	`no`
`03:23.13`	`Stewox`	`lol`
`03:23.47`	`Stewox`	`I didn't laugh at SC2 for a long time since i played campaign`
`03:24.01`	`Stewox`	`guys`
`03:24.21`	`Stewox`	`i made Starcraft 2: Portable ... lol`
`03:24.37`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/38/aT/2LxG0pQe/sc2-2011-04-11-05-15-18-.jpg`
`03:24.44`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/2o/B6/3wBImO9Y/sc2-2011-04-11-05-15-33-.jpg`
`03:24.52`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/j/Qo/3ja6eaZ7/sc2-2011-04-11-05-17-22-.jpg`
`03:25.00`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/3C/KB/4dMaJ003/sc2-2011-04-11-05-17-42-.jpg`
`03:25.11`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/p/PP/4hWO74GJ/sc2-2011-04-11-05-18-01-.jpg`
`03:25.19`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/2N/2U/1YuKVtKz/sc2-2011-04-11-05-18-03-.jpg`
`03:25.25`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/2x/S2/1sZ6PCVS/sc2-2011-04-11-05-18-14-.jpg`
`03:25.32`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/47/TR/3KD1C3d/sc2-2011-04-11-05-18-16-.jpg`
`03:25.47`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/S/Y4/1GQpIJV/sc2-2011-04-11-05-18-22-.jpg`
`03:25.49`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/2k/Bw/32481ASA/sc2-2011-04-11-05-19-08-.jpg`
`03:25.57`	`Nash\|327`	`link spam`
`03:26.20`	`Stewox`	`folder http://www.shrani.si/index.php?kaj=album&mapa=Starcraft2TextureLow`
`03:27.04`	`Nash\|327`	`it looks ugly, so what?`
`03:27.30`	`Stewox`	`ahaahahaa`
`03:27.41`	`Stewox`	`im going to freaking explode tonight`
`03:27.48`	`Stewox`	`i can't stop laughing at this`
`03:28.05`	`Nash\|327`	`well, good luck with that`
`03:28.09`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`poor game.`
`03:28.13`	`Stewox`	`lool`
`03:28.22`	`Stewox`	`ahaha`
`03:28.43`	`Stewox`	`my my stomack hurts , cannnt stop laughting`
`03:30.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`0.o`
`03:30.38`	`Stewox`	`sixen alpha_vst mexa\|sleep helral\|afk`
`03:30.45`	`AlphA_VsT`	`what`
`03:30.50`	`Stewox`	`look pics`
`03:30.58`	`Stewox`	`finally working !`
`03:31.11`	`AlphA_VsT`	`you removed 90% of the textures?`
`03:31.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`wow`
`03:31.34`	`Sixen`	`?`
`03:31.37`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I admit raynor look rather..`
`03:31.38`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`yeah`
`03:31.39`	`Stewox`	`im going to blow up of laugn this is so funny`
`03:31.40`	`Stewox`	`HAHA`
`03:31.52`	`Stewox`	`i made portable version of sc2`
`03:32.00`	`Stewox`	`missions load instantly . like 1 sec`
`03:32.27`	`Sixen`	`portable?`
`03:32.30`	`Stewox`	`look those links above sixen`
`03:32.30`	`Sixen`	`interesting`
`03:32.33`	`Sixen`	`just saw em`
`03:32.34`	`Stewox`	`"portable"`
`03:32.51`	`AlphA_VsT`	`does it install to a flash drive? :P`
`03:32.57`	`Stewox`	`lol`
`03:32.58`	`Stewox`	`idk`
`03:33.19`	`Stewox`	`i was just trying to do the opposite thing , this came out and it was more funny than anything else`
`03:33.36`	`Stewox`	`guys`
`03:33.38`	`Stewox`	`this is a hack`
`03:33.44`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its not funny though`
`03:33.44`	`Stewox`	`not a lowest setting`
`03:33.48`	`Stewox`	`it is`
`03:33.54`	`Stewox`	`you should install it and try it`
`03:33.55`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no its not`
`03:34.03`	`Stewox`	`im going to explode this is so funny`
`03:34.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its more stupid than anything`
`03:34.42`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I think if you attempt playing that on battle.net, it will claim it being broken?`
`03:34.56`	`Stewox`	`at this point ... i jsut don't care , i'll keep laughing :D`
`03:35.12`	`Stewox`	`ofcourse`
`03:35.17`	`Stewox`	`this is no-net`
`03:35.30`	`Stewox`	`the updater detects it if you enable net`
`03:35.30`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`alrighty`
`03:35.37`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`oh`
`03:35.43`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`So that's what you did`
`03:36.06`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Nashface`
`03:36.17`	`Stewox`	`it's not what i meant , it's a sideeffect ... i have to go throught more trial and error`
`03:36.25`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`throws kittehs at Nash\|327`
`03:37.01`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`So you understood what those texturevariables did?`
`03:37.27`	`Stewox`	`oh , i understand , oh i do`
`03:37.28`	`Stewox`	`hahaha`
`03:37.36`	`Stewox`	`look what i done`
`03:37.37`	`Stewox`	`!`
`03:37.41`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`<.<`
`03:38.07`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Blargu, well, I must go again`
`03:38.12`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`And this time not sleep.`
`03:38.15`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Later`
`03:38.19`	`Stewox`	`lol`
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`03:38.29`	`Stewox`	`you take 10 min sleeps ever mintue or what '`
`03:38.38`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`No, the problem is I don't`
`03:38.47`	`Stewox`	`why not`
`03:38.57`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I don't know`
`03:38.59`	`Stewox`	`i stayed a bit longer just to finish this , i go to sleep 11`
`03:39.04`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I got caught with other things :7`
`03:39.08`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Like usual`
`03:39.17`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`My discipline over everything sucks`
`03:39.24`	`Stewox`	`make it unusual`
`03:39.26`	`Stewox`	`i had too`
`03:39.33`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`03:39.37`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`:p`
`03:39.38`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Yeah`
`03:40.07`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`It's not always easy when you pretty much are free 4 days of 3 of a week.`
`03:40.13`	`Sixen`	`Stewox: Did you figure out how to make a new SC2Map?`
`03:40.24`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`So I tend getting my nightcycle all messy`
`03:40.28`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`POint being`
`03:40.32`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Seeya`
`03:40.53`	`Stewox`	`sixen what are you referring to ?`
`03:40.58`	`Stewox`	`exactly ?`
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`03:41.17`	`Sixen`	`You asked how to make a new SC2Map with Ladik's`
`03:41.33`	`Stewox`	`where, copy that msg ?`
`03:41.58`	`Stewox`	`i said MPQ , not SC2Map :)`
`03:42.01`	`Stewox`	`i think`
`03:42.13`	`Stewox`	`You found something ?`
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`03:42.32`	`Sixen`	`What is an SC2 MPQ then?`
`03:42.38`	`Sixen`	`There is no such thing as an SC2 MPQ`
`03:42.54`	`Stewox`	`lol am i speaking to sixen or is this somebody else ?`
`03:43.05`	`Sixen`	`?`
`03:43.06`	`Stewox`	`you're saying that you don't know what is a MPQ ?`
`03:43.22`	`Sixen`	`The only MPQ's SC2 has is "Base.MPQ"`
`03:43.32`	`Sixen`	`And that is in Core only`
`03:43.32`	`Stewox`	`what have you been talking about like ... months about TC modding and stuff`
`03:43.40`	`Stewox`	`everything is MPQ`
`03:43.53`	`Stewox`	`it's just renamed into SC2Mod , SC2Map ... etc`
`03:43.56`	`Sixen`	`They're opened by an MPQ editor, but they aren't "MPQ's"`
`03:43.57`	`Stewox`	`:)`
`03:43.57`	`Sixen`	`Right`
`03:44.09`	`Stewox`	`They are actually , :)`
`03:44.12`	`AlphA_VsT`	`they are mpq files just renamed`
`03:44.19`	`AlphA_VsT`	`0.o`
`03:44.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`map files are mpq files even`
`03:45.06`	`Stewox`	`everything inside is like this: Extensions: SC2Lib == XML TEXT SC2Scene == XML TEXT SC2Data, SC2Assets, SC2MAPS, SC2MOD == MPQ ( Kind of Zip Archive) SC2Layout == XML TEXT SC2Style == XML TEXT`
`03:45.28`	`Sixen`	`I know what's inside :P`
`03:45.59`	`Stewox`	`inside the MPQs are many files , including these extensions , this is just as readme, mostly renamed XML stuff`
`03:46.44`	`Stewox`	`Sixen as you're just here`
`03:46.54`	`Stewox`	`im going to upload something on sc2mapster right now`
`03:47.24`	`Stewox`	`i was going to tell you , long ago , there is no enGB option (locale) to select in assets , has this been fixed ?`
`03:48.03`	`Sixen`	`no, doesn't look like it. I never noteiced`
`03:49.41`	`AlphA_VsT`	`sigh so much work to get this right`
`03:51.16`	`Stewox`	`sixen`
`03:51.17`	`Stewox`	`# Localized languages: enUSEnglish (enUS) frFRFrench (frFR) deDEGerman (deDE) koKRKorean (koKR) ruRURussian (ruRU) zhCNSimplified Chinese (zhCN) esESSpanish (esES) zhTWTraditional Chinese (zhTW) # Summary:`
`03:52.32`	`Sixen`	`what about it`
`03:54.01`	`Stewox`	`emmm`
`03:54.06`	`Stewox`	`there is no enGB`
`03:54.11`	`Stewox`	`:)`
`03:54.13`	`Sixen`	`I know, I said that :P`
`03:54.41`	`Stewox`	`well will you fix it ?`
`03:54.53`	`Sixen`	`maybe eventually, hehe`
`03:54.57`	`Sixen`	`I can't do it myself`
`03:55.03`	`Stewox`	`oh come on`
`03:55.08`	`Stewox`	`admin`
`03:55.15`	`Stewox`	`right , fine :p`
`03:55.54`	`Stewox`	`im joking , just write it down so you don't forget`
`03:55.58`	`Sixen`	`lol ya`
`03:56.03`	`Stewox`	`that's all`
`03:56.04`	`Sixen`	`I have a doc with a lot of stuff that needs ot be fixed`
`03:56.14`	`Stewox`	`but , this should be on a priority`
`03:56.40`	`Sixen`	`locale doesn't really matter anymore, all maps are always localized in all languages anyway`
`04:02.49`	`Nash\|327`	`FYI B.net game servers are down`
`04:03.24`	`Sixen`	`I'm on NA right now.`
`04:03.47`	`Nash\|327`	`So NA works.`
`04:04.39`	`Nash\|327`	`headache, gonna rest`
`04:05.04`	`Stewox`	`blizzard made this ?`
`04:05.18`	`Stewox`	`im not publishing maps thought , it's locale critical`
`04:07.22`	`AlphA_VsT`	`made what`
`04:09.42`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i hope this works`
`04:11.39`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hehehe`
`04:11.52`	`AlphA_VsT`	`reloading editor fixes everything`
`04:12.13`	`AlphA_VsT`	`and my trees http://i.imgur.com/I51f7.png`
`04:13.32`	`Skizot`	`omg HIDEOUS`
`04:14.17`	`Stewox`	`sixen`
`04:14.27`	`Stewox`	`Asset name is max 32 characters`
`04:14.32`	`Stewox`	`this is too low for my asset`
`04:14.38`	`Skizot`	`this isn't that map that was being made WAY back in beta is it?`
`04:14.45`	`Stewox`	`it's only for half of the name`
`04:15.05`	`Skizot`	`wtf do you have that has more than 32 chars in the nae?`
`04:15.32`	`Stewox`	`resource asset`
`04:15.41`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah skizot im working on it :P`
`04:16.00`	`Skizot`	`again,,,`
`04:16.02`	`Skizot`	`wtf do you have that has more than 32 chars in the nae?`
`04:16.19`	`Stewox`	`sixen`
`04:16.22`	`Stewox`	`i would need 50 chars`
`04:16.23`	`AlphA_VsT`	`im in the proccess of doign the textures and models for a city scape :D`
`04:16.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`cause it makes the game + awesome`
`04:17.01`	`AlphA_VsT`	`im generating terrian now and shit`
`04:17.57`	`Sixen`	`Why do you have a name that is 30+ characters?`
`04:18.19`	`Sixen`	`50 characters is a ridiculously large title`
`04:18.31`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`AlphA_VsT, looks cool.`
`04:21.16`	`Stewox`	`nevermind sixen that was a URL limit , apparently asset name can be longer`
`04:22.00`	`Stewox`	`Must match /^[a-z][-_a-z0-9]+[a-z0-9]$/. Make sure not to use capital letters.`
`04:22.04`	`Stewox`	`now this`
`04:23.09`	`Skizot`	`haha that goes for the line above it.`
`04:23.15`	`Skizot`	`i think`
`04:23.22`	`Skizot`	`it's either above or below`
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`04:23.31`	`Skizot`	`i complained to sixen that it's in a odd spot.`
`04:23.37`	`Sixen`	`?`
`04:24.20`	`Stewox`	`the error appears close to the Asset name , but it actually was targeting the URL below`
`04:24.58`	`Stewox`	`aha`
`04:25.00`	`Stewox`	`fixed`
`04:25.09`	`Stewox`	`urls cannot contain dots :p`
`04:25.23`	`Stewox`	`on their own ...`
`04:25.35`	`Stewox`	`really ?`
`04:26.00`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`04:26.02`	`Stewox`	`sixen , project waiting approval ... tnx`
`04:26.35`	`Stewox`	`sorry for bothering so today, i just woke up with too much energy :D`
`04:27.13`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`04:30.31`	`Stewox`	`you guys should understand my jokes :)`
`04:30.34`	`Stewox`	`... really`
`04:31.12`	`Stewox`	`.RAR can be uploaded to sc2mapster or only Zip ?`
`04:32.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`be safe do zip`
`04:32.48`	`Stewox`	`hmm`
`04:32.58`	`Stewox`	`rar has better compression and this is a big thing`
`04:33.04`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`04:33.23`	`Stewox`	`50 Megabytes was compressed`
`04:33.30`	`Stewox`	`168 from 218`
`04:33.42`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:P`
`04:33.46`	`Vexal`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:34.45`	`Stewox`	`what vexal`
`04:34.51`	`Stewox`	`look this`
`04:34.52`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`7zip an it's all gg`
`04:34.57`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`*and`
`04:35.22`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/index.php?kaj=album&mapa=Starcraft2TextureLow`
`04:35.43`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Stewox, we can't access that site`
`04:36.03`	`Stewox`	`..`
`04:36.05`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`We don't like in slovenia`
`04:36.10`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`ip-blocked`
`04:36.45`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`We were able to watch the individual pictures like you shower earlier`
`04:36.48`	`Stewox`	`it's a local site that only permist uploading of home IP but everyone can see it of course`
`04:36.50`	`AlphA_VsT`	`seems if you hide terrian textures and you have units that walk over it the target cursor disapears :(`
`04:36.50`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`but not that particular link`
`04:36.58`	`Stewox`	`that's because this is a album`
`04:37.06`	`Stewox`	`and i haven't made it public :)`
`04:37.21`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`So then why posting the link :v`
`04:37.28`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/index.php?kaj=album&mapa=Starcraft2TextureLow`
`04:37.29`	`Stewox`	`try again`
`04:37.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`so wtf can i do now QQ`
`04:37.32`	`Stewox`	`(same link)`
`04:37.43`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I told you`
`04:37.58`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`It's ipblocking due to not being in the same country as you are`
`04:38.25`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Alpha, what?`
`04:39.05`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hiding the terrian makes it so when units walk over that the targeting ring vanishes :(`
`04:39.19`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`are you sure?`
`04:39.24`	`Stewox`	`damn , albums aren't allowed omg`
`04:39.35`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i just notcied it`
`04:39.40`	`AlphA_VsT`	`when i was workign with it`
`04:39.41`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Alpha, what if you make them air?`
`04:40.27`	`AlphA_VsT`	`it might be a issue with my unit being on top of the other unit idono I just know for what i want its not working lol`
`04:40.53`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`oh you mean, that it's under your custom plane?`
`04:41.20`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah`
`04:41.24`	`AlphA_VsT`	`it has to be`
`04:41.45`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I think you should be able to modify the selection height`
`04:41.52`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`how, I am not entirely sure atm`
`04:41.55`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`lol`
`04:43.03`	`AlphA_VsT`	`where is that`
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`04:43.36`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I don't know :)`
`04:45.02`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Alpha`
`04:45.12`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`You could test the following.`
`04:45.56`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`what happends if you got to your unit in the data-> UI tab -> height`
`04:46.02`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`and change it to 1 or something`
`04:46.57`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`or does that only change the height of the unit?`
`04:47.05`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i found it`
`04:47.19`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i just have to test what it should be at :D`
`04:47.25`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`oki`
`04:47.44`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hopefully its a easy fix lol`
`04:48.47`	`AlphA_VsT`	`grrr my model broke in my editor again lol`
`04:48.50`	`AlphA_VsT`	`stupid thing`
`04:49.02`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Alpha, another value to try would be Occlusion Height`
`04:49.24`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`But me myself doesn't know what occlusion`
`04:49.26`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`is`
`04:50.19`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hmmm well it looks like its just vanishing`
`04:51.16`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Tho, air units flying over hidden cells is not getting hidden :v`
`04:51.34`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I mean their selection thingy`
`04:51.54`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`the ring`
`04:51.55`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`yeah`
`04:51.57`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`hmr.`
`04:52.06`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah`
`04:52.21`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its odd 0.o and i really dont want to make it air`
`04:52.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`cause i want to add in some air shit`
`04:52.36`	`AlphA_VsT`	`and that would fuck shit up`
`04:52.47`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`yeah`
`04:57.18`	`Vexal`	`today i learned slovenia is a country.`
`04:59.04`	`AlphA_VsT`	`testing the ignore terrian height maybe it might work lol`
`04:59.47`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Theres also a thing called selection layer on the model`
`04:59.58`	`Nash\|327`	`lawl`
`04:59.59`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Changing that to 1 might have some other effect`
`05:00.00`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah i have no idea what that is`
`05:00.16`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Hai Nashface`
`05:00.23`	`Nash\|327`	`it r not sleeps`
`05:00.31`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`knowz`
`05:00.38`	`Nash\|327`	`sleep fail`
`05:00.39`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`it b messed`
`05:00.58`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`And now it's bright`
`05:01.01`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Oh noes.`
`05:01.08`	`AlphA_VsT`	`nope didnt work so`
`05:01.16`	`Nash\|327`	`YOU DUN GOOFED`
`05:01.30`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Alpha, then I am out of ideas atm.`
`05:01.38`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I UM GOOFED`
`05:01.50`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`But yeah`
`05:01.56`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I am going to watch some tv`
`05:02.19`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`or take a shower.. depends on which one getting me the most tired`
`05:02.22`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Durr`
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`05:06.00`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i changed teh ground mover`
`05:06.05`	`AlphA_VsT`	`this could be fun`
`05:06.26`	`AlphA_VsT`	`it wont work but yeah :P`
`05:07.24`	`AlphA_VsT`	`did nothing gah`
`05:07.58`	`AlphA_VsT`	`or idono`
`05:08.51`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`hmm huh..`
`05:08.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i dont think it was taking effect`
`05:09.02`	`AlphA_VsT`	`the changes`
`05:09.03`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`05:09.04`	`AlphA_VsT`	`gah`
`05:09.17`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i forgot to close and reopen my map`
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`05:10.01`	`SoulTaker916`	`how do i make a dialog button fade out and unselectable?`
`05:10.11`	`SoulTaker916`	`nvm`
`05:10.13`	`SoulTaker916`	`just found it`
`05:10.13`	`AlphA_VsT`	`disable it`
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`05:14.47`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:P`
`05:17.34`	`AlphA_VsT`	`gah`
`05:17.50`	`AlphA_VsT`	`wtf makes a flying unit not lose its selection over hidden terrian`
`05:18.13`	`AlphA_VsT`	`like seriously`
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`05:26.17`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i might of gotten it no idea`
`05:28.49`	`AlphA_VsT`	`closer`
`05:30.14`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i got the flying line to appear lol`
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`05:32.34`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hopefully this will do it`
`05:35.09`	`AlphA_VsT`	`FUCK YOU GAME`
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`05:52.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`wow`
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`06:24.55`	`SoulTaker916`	`JADE`
`06:25.29`	`SoulTaker916`	`:(`
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`06:46.36`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`yawns`
`06:50.20`	`Nash\|327`	`yawnzorz`
`06:50.41`	`Nash\|327`	`omegalisks are now immune to gunfire`
`06:51.58`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Isn't that all too hard?`
`06:52.21`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Nash btw, how come you never sleep?`
`06:52.34`	`Nash\|327`	`I got hit in the head with a rock`
`06:52.43`	`Nash\|327`	`I can't sleep since then`
`06:52.56`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`herpderp you say?`
`06:53.14`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`But in an seriousness?`
`06:53.16`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`*all`
`06:53.26`	`Nash\|327`	`What makes you think I wasn't serious?`
`06:53.57`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`You got hit by a rock, and then you got yourself a case of insomnia?`
`06:54.26`	`Nash\|327`	`;G`
`06:54.45`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`,_,`
`06:54.52`	`Nash\|327`	`dum fråga får dumt svar`
`06:55.01`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`meh`
`06:55.15`	`Nash\|327`	`You asked why I never sleep :P`
`06:55.23`	`Nash\|327`	`Which I do.`
`06:55.27`	`SoulTaker916`	`nash`
`06:55.30`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Did you have to take it literally?`
`06:55.34`	`Nash\|327`	`Yes.`
`06:55.47`	`SoulTaker916`	`i have a unit with multiple weapons`
`06:55.51`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`That's just annoying, you knew exactly what I meant :/`
`06:55.55`	`SoulTaker916`	`how do i let them all fire at once?`
`06:56.19`	`Nash\|327`	`SoulTaker916: I dunno, but look at the Goliath unit`
`06:56.33`	`Nash\|327`	`with a campaign upgrade it can fire both weapons at once`
`06:56.38`	`SoulTaker916`	`can it fire multiple weapons at once?`
`06:56.55`	`Nash\|327`	`yup, when you buy an upgrade in the Armory`
`06:56.58`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Nash, okay then... when do you sleep:p?`
`06:57.11`	`Nash\|327`	`When I get too tired to stay up.`
`06:57.36`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`yeah but does it mean a messed up day/nightcycle?`
`06:57.47`	`Nash\|327`	`what's a day/night cycle?`
`06:58.09`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`.. I mean a normal day cycle`
`06:58.22`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`When you sleep and are awake at 'normal' times`
`06:58.35`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Being nightowl is not the usual`
`06:58.37`	`Nash\|327`	`Oh, like normal people.`
`06:58.42`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`lol`
`06:58.50`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Like normal people.`
`06:59.02`	`Nash\|327`	`They always get up in the morning or something.`
`06:59.18`	`Nash\|327`	`Seems rather odd, what if you're tired in the morning?`
`06:59.29`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Nash, stop that <.<`
`06:59.36`	`Helral\|afk`	`Then you sit yawning at work ;p`
`06:59.54`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I'll sit yawning this day`
`06:59.54`	`Nash\|327`	`Work is something that happens to other people.`
`06:59.59`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`If I don't sleep soon.`
`07:00.34`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Mehrh`
`07:00.39`	`Nash\|327`	`My natural state is to sleep 10 hours and be up for about 18.`
`07:00.43`	`Nash\|327`	`Or something.`
`07:00.47`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Okay`
`07:01.03`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`So it's quite irregular relative a 24hour cycle`
`07:01.28`	`Nash\|327`	`I never feel really awake unless I sleep 10+ hours`
`07:01.45`	`Nash\|327`	`I can get up but it takes so fucking long to really wake up.`
`07:02.03`	`Nash\|327`	`High sleep inertia.`
`07:02.26`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I could feel awake after 7... but having no sleep for about 24hours, then sleep 5hours and additionally no sleep for 12 hours makes me derpy, like now.`
`07:03.08`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I know what you mean though..`
`07:03.23`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I should get some more coffee`
`07:03.28`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Either that, or sleep`
`07:03.32`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`What should I do?`
`07:04.00`	`Nash\|327`	`I think I spend too much time in deep sleep.`
`07:04.10`	`Nash\|327`	`So I always wake up at the worst time.`
`07:04.46`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`or you just are pretty bad in making decisions of when to go to bed, rather:p`
`07:05.59`	`Nash\|327`	`going to bed means fuck-all if you can't fall asleep.`
`07:06.18`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`lol`
`07:07.28`	`Nash\|327`	`only way to get a normal sleeping schedule is to get up after 8 or so hours by snoozing for an hour`
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`07:07.49`	`Nash\|327`	`because when snoozing you never enter deep sleep and thus no sleep inertia`
`07:07.54`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`And perhaps to wake up at the right time?`
`07:08.12`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Time of day, I mean`
`07:08.14`	`Nash\|327`	`you can do that for an hour to get rid of the sleep inertia from waking up from deep sleep`
`07:08.16`	`Nash\|327`	`:G`
`07:08.32`	`Nash\|327`	`I don't think time of day matters.`
`07:08.38`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`It does`
`07:08.46`	`Nash\|327`	`Not that I've noticed.`
`07:08.55`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`If you wake up at 4pm, then you're already screwed to have a normal day`
`07:09.06`	`Nash\|327`	`And I've gone to sleep and gotten up at every hour of the day.`
`07:09.30`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`... because the day already passed, pretty much`
`07:10.08`	`Nash\|327`	`caffeine snooze`
`07:10.09`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Oh yeah.. perhaps it doesn't matter for you when you are free from work or classes`
`07:10.43`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`But in my case.. it's bad, I have a class in 50minutes, and there's no way I will manage to pull up with that`
`07:10.48`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`:\`
`07:11.23`	`Nash\|327`	`yeah well as I've said, I did 10h programming, no sleep, then 14h`
`07:11.36`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`yeah, you're so crazy already :>`
`07:11.50`	`Nash\|327`	`I had 5 energy drinks druing those 14 hours`
`07:12.20`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`As much as coffee might be as bad as energy drinks in a sense, it feels like I'd rather take coffee`
`07:12.32`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Probably due to the less amount of sugar.`
`07:12.45`	`Nash\|327`	`On the way home I wasn't even tired.`
`07:12.59`	`Nash\|327`	`36 hours awake, and I was almost hyper.`
`07:13.39`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Have you realised that we are more or less talk to ourselves without even following up on the other one?`
`07:13.53`	`Helral\|afk`	`meow`
`07:13.55`	`Nash\|327`	`Is that a problem?`
`07:14.19`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Maybe not.`
`07:14.41`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`But it's not really the same conversation`
`07:14.49`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Imagine that in real life.`
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`07:15.19`	`Nash\|327`	`People are not reliable transfer protocols.`
`07:15.29`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`lol`
`07:15.30`	`Nash\|327`	`I don't need to ACK everything other people say.`
`07:15.31`	`Nash\|327`	`D_D`
`07:15.38`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I know`
`07:15.44`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I was just saying`
`07:15.45`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`lol`
`07:16.22`	`Nash\|327`	`Though to some extent you do.`
`07:16.48`	`Nash\|327`	`People think you don't listen if you don't look them in the eye constantly and say uh-huh at various points.`
`07:17.13`	`Nash\|327`	`So I have to remember to look at people.`
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`07:17.45`	`Nash\|327`	`If anything, that makes it harder to pay attention to them since you have to keep thinking to do it.`
`07:17.53`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`But if you are looking at a screen saying uh-huh when someone else behind you is trying to talk to you, it is most likely going to be like talking to a wall.`
`07:18.14`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Think?`
`07:18.38`	`Nash\|327`	`Think?`
`07:19.08`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`keep thinking I mean? No, it's just a form of code of conduct`
`07:19.20`	`Nash\|327`	`It's still something you have to remember to do.`
`07:19.27`	`Nash\|327`	`It requires thought.`
`07:19.41`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`If your not doing it without thinking about it already, then yes:P`
`07:20.02`	`Nash\|327`	`I do very few things without thinking.`
`07:20.19`	`Nash\|327`	`Social skill related stuff are not among them.`
`07:20.34`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`But you don't really think before you gesture with your body/arms/whatever, do you?`
`07:20.57`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`It happends unintentionally for me`
`07:21.32`	`Nash\|327`	`I don't speak body language.`
`07:21.44`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`kk`
`07:22.06`	`Nash\|327`	`I can just mimic it enough to pass as human.`
`07:22.11`	`Nash\|327`	`In some cases.`
`07:22.11`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Never moving your hands while you speak or when you try to explain something?`
`07:22.53`	`Nash\|327`	`As I said, I can mimic it somewhat.`
`07:23.02`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Well then, you have a body language`
`07:23.05`	`Nash\|327`	`Doesn't mean I really understand body language.`
`07:23.06`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`A minimalistic one`
`07:23.38`	`Nash\|327`	`Might as well be telepathy.`
`07:23.42`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`haha`
`07:23.50`	`Nash\|327`	`Seems like that's what people expect.`
`07:23.56`	`Nash\|327`	`They never say what the fuck they mean.`
`07:24.04`	`Nash\|327`	`You're just supposed to know.`
`07:24.13`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`:>?`
`07:25.16`	`Nash\|327`	`I had 2 project groups at UNIVERSITY LEVEL who didn't like me for some strange reason.`
`07:25.23`	`Nash\|327`	`Not kids, adults.`
`07:25.25`	`Nash\|327`	`D_D`
`07:25.41`	`Nash\|327`	`All I did was try to improve the project.`
`07:25.59`	`Nash\|327`	`One group talked crap when I wasn't there, calling me arrogant.`
`07:26.09`	`Nash\|327`	`The other threw me out after ONE meeting.`
`07:26.13`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Well, that's just stupid.`
`07:26.20`	`Nash\|327`	`/shrug, people are strange and irrational`
`07:26.33`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Sounds like you got in the wrong group, really`
`07:27.05`	`Nash\|327`	`No, just needed to read their minds.`
`07:27.34`	`Nash\|327`	`Not like they say anything if they have a problem or want to do things another way.`
`07:27.54`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Like I said`
`07:27.55`	`Nash\|327`	`Just stay silent and then bitch about someone ignoring you.`
`07:28.09`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`If they don't say why then they are stupid`
`07:28.15`	`Nash\|327`	`I CAN'T BE IGNORING YOU IF YOU DON'T SAY ANYTHING`
`07:28.25`	`Nash\|327`	`Oh well.`
`07:28.36`	`Nash\|327`	`Hell is other people.`
`07:29.22`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`.. I need to go and get myself some coffee`
`07:29.43`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Talk to you later.`
`07:29.52`	`Nash\|327`	`mmk`
`07:30.09`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`And hopefully sleep :)`
`07:30.14`	`Nash\|327`	`lies`
`07:30.22`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Oh youÂ¨`
`07:30.35`	`Nash\|327`	`caffeine nap perhaps`
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`07:30.51`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Yes, I was thinking of that`
`07:30.54`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`See if I manage`
`07:31.13`	`Nash\|327`	`remember, <15 min`
`07:31.26`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`It's hard to put the alarm on that`
`07:31.31`	`Nash\|327`	`deep sleep will fuck you up D:`
`07:31.53`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`We''ll having 3 hours would be okay for me`
`07:32.05`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Just enough to be extremely tired at night later`
`07:32.14`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`But yeah, it will fuck me up`
`07:32.25`	`Nash\|327`	`Do you have time for 3 hours, though?`
`07:32.42`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I already decided to skip class, so.. well yeah`
`07:33.01`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I deal with one skip`
`07:33.05`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`*I can`
`07:33.23`	`Nash\|327`	`class isn't all that necessary`
`07:33.36`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I'd rather go whenever I can`
`07:33.38`	`Nash\|327`	`I just tend to read the course book day before exam`
`07:33.52`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Is not going to work in this class`
`07:33.54`	`Nash\|327`	`or read it at night and not go to sleep`
`07:33.58`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`It's not an exam on the course`
`07:34.11`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`but a 7,5hp project`
`07:34.12`	`Nash\|327`	`works for morning exams, stay up and read, go to exam, sleep`
`07:34.25`	`Nash\|327`	`ah, projects you kind of need to be there`
`07:34.25`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Stupid math`
`07:34.28`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I don't want you`
`07:34.50`	`Nash\|327`	`probability and logic is fine`
`07:35.07`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Numerical Analyses is not something I am very hyped about`
`07:35.13`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Sitting in matlab doing stuff..`
`07:35.22`	`Nash\|327`	`matlab D;`
`07:35.33`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Yup, durr`
`07:35.36`	`Nash\|327`	`I don't even remember what you did in Numerical Analysis`
`07:36.00`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`So far we talked about floating point numbers and rounding errors`
`07:36.15`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`And shizzle`
`07:36.23`	`Nash\|327`	`with epsilon and shit`
`07:36.27`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I guess there will be some different stuff to follow`
`07:36.32`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Yeah thats one of them`
`07:36.49`	`Nash\|327`	`algorithms is much more interesting`
`07:37.11`	`Nash\|327`	`NP complete problems`
`07:37.22`	`Nash\|327`	`time complexity`
`07:37.24`	`Nash\|327`	`whatevs`
`07:37.27`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`It's funnier at least :>`
`07:37.50`	`Nash\|327`	`optimization can be neat too`
`07:37.57`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Definitly`
`07:38.14`	`Nash\|327`	`I like any kind of math that helps you make rational choices`
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`07:38.27`	`Nash\|327`	`logic, probability, optimization models, etc`
`07:38.44`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`We're also having a course about scripting and interpretators`
`07:38.56`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I find that more interesting too,`
`07:39.13`	`Nash\|327`	`Avoid writing a compiler.`
`07:39.17`	`Nash\|327`	`:G`
`07:40.20`	`Nash\|327`	`high level programming is fine, assembly is fine, but I wouldn't want to deal with the stuff in between`
`07:40.51`	`Nash\|327`	`Even C is annoying, SEGFAULT SEGFAULT`
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`07:43.02`	`Mexa`	`Fancy that`
`07:43.07`	`Mexa`	`my net went kaboom`
`07:43.42`	`Mexa`	`And I probably missed what you said if you said anything`
`07:43.59`	`Nash\|327`	`(09:39:11) (Nash\|327) Avoid writing a compiler.`
`07:43.59`	`Nash\|327`	`(09:39:15) (Nash\|327) :G`
`07:43.59`	`Nash\|327`	`(09:40:18) (Nash\|327) high level programming is fine, assembly is fine, but I wouldn't want to deal with the stuff in between`
`07:43.59`	`Nash\|327`	`(09:40:49) (Nash\|327) Even C is annoying, SEGFAULT SEGFAULT`
`07:44.09`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`lol`
`07:44.15`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`I like C++ tbh`
`07:44.20`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`At some extent`
`07:44.40`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Our entire 3dprogramming is in that`
`07:44.53`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`So I'll have to deal with it anyway`
`07:44.57`	`Nash\|327`	`Try C with a shitty debugger that just says SEGFAULT, no idea where in the code`
`07:45.04`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`No thank you:>`
`07:45.42`	`Maknyuzz`	`hi`
`07:45.48`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`It's like when sc2 says "Syntax Error in script" if you load an inproper one, but it doesn't say where`
`07:46.02`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`hi there`
`07:46.06`	`Maknyuzz`	`anyone know if there's a way to reduce the number of max unit grouping in the info panel?`
`07:46.20`	`Maknyuzz`	`right now its 8x3`
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`07:46.31`	`Maknyuzz`	`can you do like 6x3 instead`
`07:46.47`	`Maknyuzz`	`or 6x2 like in wc3`
`07:47.08`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Well, in wc3 it was depending on your resolution, wasn't it?`
`07:47.32`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`oh wait, never mind`
`07:47.35`	`Maknyuzz`	`no i think its static 12`
`07:47.39`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`It was scaled ofcourse`
`07:47.44`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`Yeah`
`07:48.01`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`No idea how that is set in sc2`
`07:48.26`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`And the only one chatting for quite some time now have been Nash and me`
`07:48.36`	`Mexa\|Sleep`	`So yeah, dead chat is mostly dead`
`07:48.58`	`Maknyuzz`	`ic`
`07:50.22`	`Nash\|327`	`Ask Obatztrara if he shows`
`07:50.35`	`Nash\|327`	`his map mods the UI a lot`
`07:50.43`	`Nash\|327`	`so he might know :G`
`07:50.45`	`Maknyuzz`	`ic ok thanks nash`
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`08:01.05`	`Maknyuzz`	`anyone know if you can modify the console artwork?`
`08:01.09`	`Maknyuzz`	`UI`
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`08:23.17`	`Helral\|afk`	`Maknyuzz: yup`
`08:23.27`	`Helral\|afk`	`which bit of the UI you want to modify?`
`08:23.33`	`Maknyuzz`	`portrait`
`08:23.38`	`Maknyuzz`	`the border`
`08:23.43`	`Maknyuzz`	`i dont want to ever see it again`
`08:24.18`	`Maknyuzz`	`then the info frame i want to make it wider`
`08:24.32`	`Helral\|afk`	`ahhh ok you ll need to edit m3 files for that sadly.`
`08:24.49`	`Maknyuzz`	`like in aiur chef?`
`08:25.00`	`Maknyuzz`	`do u know where i can find the m3?`
`08:25.22`	`Maknyuzz`	`btw when u say yup what are you about to tell me?`
`08:26.09`	`Maknyuzz`	`so i want only 3 frames. minimap, info frame, and command frame`
`08:26.44`	`Maknyuzz`	`also helral since ur expert at UI thingy, is there a way to reduce the number of units in groups? right now its 8x3. can I reduce it to 6x2?`
`08:29.38`	`Helral\|afk`	`hmmmm I don t know about reducing units in unitgroups.`
`08:29.45`	`Helral\|afk`	`think that is a set amount :(`
`08:30.09`	`Helral\|afk`	`goes to look at the aiur chef m3 models`
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`08:31.31`	`Maknyuzz`	`there is imported m3`
`08:31.41`	`Maknyuzz`	`for protoss model`
`08:31.47`	`Maknyuzz`	`in aiur chef`
`08:32.00`	`Maknyuzz`	`i wanna modify terran model`
`08:32.06`	`Helral\|afk`	`the m3 files are stored in Base.SC2Assets/Assets/UI/Console/<Race>/Console<Race>`
`08:34.24`	`Helral\|afk`	`they are in the SC2Dir/Mods/Liberty.SC2Mod/base.SC2Assets mpq file.`
`08:34.42`	`Helral\|afk`	`the originals ;p`
`08:34.44`	`Maknyuzz`	`yea`
`08:34.55`	`Maknyuzz`	`but damn editing m3 files...`
`08:35.27`	`Maknyuzz`	`do u think i should just take screenshot`
`08:35.33`	`Maknyuzz`	`then make dds file`
`08:35.39`	`Maknyuzz`	`and make a dialog instead?`
`08:35.42`	`Maknyuzz`	`hide the console`
`08:35.46`	`Helral\|afk`	`you can always create you own images, and use those. although they don t stretch that nice on different screen resolutions.`
`08:35.46`	`Maknyuzz`	`cover it with dds`
`08:36.21`	`Maknyuzz`	`but if i make the info pane full screen`
`08:36.30`	`Maknyuzz`	`then minimap anchored to the left`
`08:36.38`	`Maknyuzz`	`and command anchored to the right`
`08:37.05`	`Maknyuzz`	`info pane stretched to say 9999`
`08:37.59`	`Maknyuzz`	`oh wells`
`08:38.04`	`Maknyuzz`	`thanks helral`
`08:38.11`	`Helral\|afk`	`I have a tutorial on UI adjustments, which has a file included which adds a frame behind the minimap panel to give it a background image. basicly you can just add an image to the bottom of the screen which will have the background you want.`
`08:38.35`	`Helral\|afk`	`although I do not advice to do it that way ;p`
`08:38.50`	`Helral\|afk`	`for images that fill the entire width.`
`08:39.55`	`Maknyuzz`	`hmmm`
`08:40.11`	`Maknyuzz`	`i can use ur tutorial for the minimap and console`
`08:40.17`	`Maknyuzz`	`border`
`08:40.38`	`Nash\|327`	`why does my imported ability icon not become a button? :/`
`08:40.50`	`Maknyuzz`	`oh and u can do border on info panel too`
`08:41.13`	`Maknyuzz`	`so basically hide console and u can do border with dds file?`
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`09:18.11`	`Maknyuzz`	`how do u hide supply frame again?`
`09:18.22`	`Maknyuzz`	`i tried via trigger hide UI Frame`
`09:18.28`	`Maknyuzz`	`but it still shows the green box`
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`09:20.01`	`griffin_`	`Lol i really want to get my wow private server perfected, but its just an area with too little information and way too complicated`
`09:20.12`	`griffin_`	`guess i have to stick to sc2 / wc3 editing ..>`
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`09:26.04`	`Obatztrara`	`sup`
`09:28.21`	`Nash\|327`	`it are obatz`
`09:28.53`	`Obatztrara`	`hey nash :) I added a always open inventory :)`
`09:29.06`	`Obatztrara`	`looks pretty cool and it really feels like an improvement`
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`09:30.32`	`Nash\|327`	`wewts`
`09:30.39`	`Nash\|327`	`I've done some work myself`
`09:31.00`	`Obatztrara`	`what are you working on?`
`09:31.04`	`Nash\|327`	`Fringe 3.0`
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`09:31.31`	`Obatztrara`	`sounds fancy....what is it? :p`
`09:31.34`	`Nash\|327`	`just adding some new features and tweaking`
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`09:31.41`	`Nash\|327`	`improving UI`
`09:31.55`	`Nash\|327`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/fringe/`
`09:32.03`	`Nash\|327`	`but with upgrades`
`09:32.21`	`Nash\|327`	`do you want to play 2.12?`
`09:32.58`	`Obatztrara`	`sounds pretty cool. sure! if its ok I would just fix a few things first`
`09:33.03`	`Nash\|327`	`no probs`
`09:33.14`	`Obatztrara`	`will you be online for a while?`
`09:33.17`	`Nash\|327`	`yup`
`09:33.22`	`Obatztrara`	`perfect, alright`
`09:33.31`	`Nash\|327`	`I just need a break from mapping, figure I'd play a bit`
`09:33.55`	`Obatztrara`	`yea... same for me. I always kinda "reward" me with testing in the evening`
`09:34.07`	`Obatztrara`	`but I just got up, so :D`
`09:36.23`	`Nash\|327`	`I'll be here or on b.net`
`09:37.05`	`Obatztrara`	`k.. @ everyone I have a problem: The items in my backpack affect my units. They should just be stored, but they are affecting the unit :S`
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`10:00.25`	`Nash\|327`	`:o`
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`10:25.30`	`Nash\|327`	`tosses kittuns at Obatztrara`
`10:26.41`	`Obatztrara`	`:o`
`10:26.48`	`Nash\|327`	`KITTUNS`
`10:26.53`	`Obatztrara`	`I cant seem to find a way to fix the backpack issue =/`
`10:27.00`	`Obatztrara`	`kitttttuuuns =D`
`10:27.12`	`Nash\|327`	`in bags`
`10:27.26`	`Obatztrara`	`yes, bag items shouldnt affect the carrier`
`10:27.29`	`Obatztrara`	`but they do =(`
`10:28.35`	`Nash\|327`	`kittuns in bags have at least twice the Cuteness effect`
`10:28.48`	`Obatztrara`	`:P`
`10:29.05`	`Obatztrara`	`10 minutes more then I give up and we play`
`10:29.13`	`Stewox`	`Sixen`
`10:29.21`	`Nash\|327`	`In WoW I had all the kittuns in the game`
`10:29.25`	`Nash\|327`	`in my bags`
`10:30.04`	`Nash\|327`	`And I grinded Cat Figurines and handed them out at raids`
`10:30.33`	`Nash\|327`	`Oh and of course KITTUN MOUNT`
`10:30.40`	`Nash\|327`	`Black War Tiger`
`10:31.19`	`Obatztrara`	`:D`
`10:31.24`	`Stewox`	`sixen, need to approve the File Asset also , it was a big file so it needed time to upload, actually, it didn't accept RAR files , so i just got the zip up , 10 MB larger than RAR.`
`10:31.33`	`Stewox`	`please get rar support for assets hmm ?`
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`10:32.32`	`Stewox`	`obatztrara look this:`
`10:33.04`	`Obatztrara`	`Nash, I think I foundd it!! 5 minutes more pl0x =D`
`10:33.07`	`Obatztrara`	`yes?`
`10:33.23`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/38/aT/2LxG0pQe/sc2-2011-04-11-05-15-18-.jpg`
`10:33.34`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/2o/B6/3wBImO9Y/sc2-2011-04-11-05-15-33-.jpg`
`10:33.47`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/j/Qo/3ja6eaZ7/sc2-2011-04-11-05-17-22-.jpg`
`10:33.53`	`Obatztrara`	`neat...making cinematics now? :D`
`10:34.03`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/3C/KB/4dMaJ003/sc2-2011-04-11-05-17-42-.jpg`
`10:34.17`	`Obatztrara`	`wait`
`10:34.22`	`Obatztrara`	`whats with the textures?`
`10:34.28`	`Stewox`	`http://www.shrani.si/f/47/TR/3KD1C3d/sc2-2011-04-11-05-18-16-.jpg`
`10:34.32`	`Stewox`	`:D`
`10:34.43`	`Stewox`	`i made this yesterday night`
`10:34.59`	`Stewox`	`wasn't actually the goal , but it was a funny outcome`
`10:35.16`	`Obatztrara`	`;-)`
`10:35.29`	`Obatztrara`	`looks kinda like team fortress 2`
`10:35.34`	`Stewox`	`when i played it , i think i would explode of laugh`
`10:35.38`	`Stewox`	`this was so funny`
`10:35.58`	`Stewox`	`man , it loads missions like superfast`
`10:36.17`	`Obatztrara`	`hehe`
`10:36.24`	`Stewox`	`this would be great for low end PCs`
`10:37.21`	`Stewox`	`oh wait the serious thing is yet to come , got make more testing`
`10:37.25`	`Obatztrara`	`true...but it has some serious artivfatc s`
`10:37.42`	`Stewox`	`no artifacts`
`10:37.43`	`Obatztrara`	`btw nash, I found the rpoblem..fixing ti shouldnt take long`
`10:37.50`	`Nash\|327`	`mmk`
`10:37.53`	`Obatztrara`	`whats that in the 4th pic?`
`10:37.58`	`Stewox`	`mod`
`10:38.01`	`Stewox`	`it's a mod`
`10:38.23`	`Obatztrara`	`I mean the thing they are firing at`
`10:38.27`	`Obatztrara`	`looks like an artifact`
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`10:38.45`	`Stewox`	`you mean GPU artifacts *`
`10:39.23`	`Stewox`	`em`
`10:39.31`	`Stewox`	`that's an explosion of the mengs statue`
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`10:44.54`	`Obatztrara`	`Ok, done`
`10:45.08`	`Obatztrara`	`Im gonna publish then kittuns @ bnet`
`10:45.23`	`Stewox`	`obat`
`10:45.28`	`Stewox`	`what you just saw`
`10:45.48`	`Stewox`	`i don't think it's possible to do with the editor , cause it's a manual edit`
`10:45.59`	`Obatztrara`	`hmm did you modify the game files?`
`10:46.11`	`Stewox`	`here`
`10:47.10`	`Stewox`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/full-sc2-datascript-extract-1-3/`
`10:47.18`	`Nash\|327`	`huggable kittuns`
`10:47.51`	`Stewox`	`this is the full extract , that one with low graphcis was easy`
`10:48.12`	`Stewox`	`... that's something else i dint' upload yet`
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`10:50.42`	`thelastavenger`	`hola. anyone up this late?`
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`10:53.37`	`thelastavenger`	`sure could use some 3dsmax help. anyone a guru?`
`10:59.27`	`JademusSreg`	`I awaken.`
`10:59.43`	`JademusSreg`	`I am not a modeller; I can be of no assistance. =D`
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`11:12.33`	`Helral\|afk`	`Stewox: why not just zip the rar archive?`
`11:12.43`	`Helral\|afk`	`if it doesn't allow rar for upload.`
`11:12.44`	`Stewox`	`lol`
`11:12.49`	`Stewox`	`didnt' thought of it`
`11:12.53`	`Helral\|afk`	`:P`
`11:12.57`	`Stewox`	`renaming the exension`
`11:13.00`	`Stewox`	`ah stupid me`
`11:13.02`	`Helral\|afk`	`you only get a little bit of overhead then.`
`11:13.10`	`Helral\|afk`	`renaming is possible but it s a hassle`
`11:13.21`	`Stewox`	`what's time in US now ?`
`11:13.30`	`Helral\|afk`	`cause some systems read the first few bytes of a file to determine the mime-type`
`11:13.42`	`Helral\|afk`	`02:00-04:00 orso?`
`11:13.43`	`Stewox`	`yeah, familar with that`
`11:13.47`	`Stewox`	`AM ?`
`11:14.01`	`Stewox`	`you're not from US?`
`11:14.06`	`Helral\|afk`	`nope`
`11:14.09`	`Helral\|afk`	`I'm EU`
`11:14.11`	`Stewox`	`oh ...`
`11:14.11`	`Helral\|afk`	`and at work`
`11:14.19`	`Helral\|afk`	`currently using remote connection`
`11:15.14`	`Helral\|afk`	`Stewox: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/custom.html?continent=namerica`
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`11:16.19`	`Stewox`	`right`
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`11:16.25`	`Stewox`	`so Sixen is probably sleeping`
`11:19.18`	`Stewox`	`helral\|afk want to see something funny`
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`11:43.41`	`JademusSreg`	`I need to figure out this layout stuff.`
`11:44.06`	`JademusSreg`	`I need to move around some stuff.`
`11:44.11`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
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`11:48.24`	`Demonette`	`OMG is can /msg myself oO`
`11:49.21`	`Nash\|327`	`D_D`
`11:51.50`	`Obatztrara`	`Nash`
`11:51.51`	`Obatztrara`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDUTiZguOX0`
`11:52.32`	`Obatztrara`	`Fringe* >_>`
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`11:53.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Helral, when you have time, I could use your assistance in understanding the layout files.`
`11:53.50`	`Demonette`	`Fringe... okay...`
`11:53.56`	`Demonette`	`XD`
`11:55.34`	`Nash\|327`	`sounds like your music got fucked up`
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`11:57.38`	`Obatztrara`	`well fps was 3 instead of 3X too`
`11:59.59`	`Nash\|327`	`your game dun goofed`
`12:03.49`	`Nash\|327`	`I had changed the turret rank to Zerg Toaster`
`12:05.05`	`Nash\|327`	`if I upload a new version of the map as private, does it make the previous version unavailable for playing?`
`12:05.30`	`Stewox`	`jademus`
`12:05.39`	`Stewox`	`you're manualy editing sc2layout files ?`
`12:06.37`	`Obatztrara`	`anyone in the mood to test? need 1-2 more (EU)`
`12:07.00`	`Nash\|327`	`Warlords?`
`12:07.36`	`Obatztrara`	`yep`
`12:07.40`	`Nash\|327`	`sure`
`12:07.44`	`Obatztrara`	`kewl`
`12:08.56`	`Stewox`	`anyone knows if there's any admins who are awake now on sc2mapster ?`
`12:09.04`	`Stewox`	`maybe an EU admin ?`
`12:09.36`	`Stewox`	`test what obat ?`
`12:09.54`	`Stewox`	`what kind of game`
`12:10.56`	`Stewox`	`obatztrara`
`12:11.20`	`Obatztrara`	`RPG game Stewox (Warlords ORPG)`
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`12:11.28`	`Obatztrara`	`level heros, kill stuff, quests etc`
`12:12.21`	`XenoX101`	`hey anyone played that Mafia map?`
`12:12.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`12:13.27`	`JademusSreg`	`Kinda neat, fun, but I don't care for the pacing.`
`12:13.43`	`Stewox`	`i don't think i would be any help obat`
`12:13.52`	`Stewox`	`i don't have experience in that genre`
`12:14.53`	`Stewox`	`the balance stuff probably not`
`12:15.03`	`Stewox`	`but if you're only looking for bugs ?`
`12:32.22`	`[M]Luminou`	`hi`
`12:32.57`	`Xaragoth`	`hrm...`
`12:33.02`	`Xaragoth`	`remember resident overmind?`
`12:33.07`	`Xaragoth`	`that would be cool as an mp map`
`12:33.14`	`Xaragoth`	`but I can't be arsed to make one =p`
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`12:37.59`	`Stewox`	`let me test those textures ... hope it works`
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`12:51.19`	`Stewox`	`any sc2mapster admins online ?`
`12:51.33`	`Stewox`	`Kaelten and Sixen are the only admins , server operators ?`
`12:57.32`	`Stewox`	`purl what's my ping ?`
`12:57.43`	`Stewox`	`purl say something`
`12:57.43`	`purl`	`something`
`12:58.11`	`Stewox`	`ok, my conn works :)`
`12:58.20`	`Stewox`	`guess nobody here`
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`13:09.18`	`Mephs`	`i dont always herp, but when i herp, i derp.`
`13:09.29`	`TheLastAvenger`	`herpalerp`
`13:19.50`	`SentryIII`	`mmmmm`
`13:35.52`	`Helral\|afk`	`meow`
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`13:37.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Hi.`
`13:37.13`	`JManV\|Work`	`mornin`
`13:37.38`	`JademusSreg`	`Helral, what can you tell me about layout files? I want to understand the fundamentals.`
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`14:15.38`	`JademusSreg`	`Hi grim.`
`14:24.24`	`grim001`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyZQPjUT5B4&feature=player_embedded`
`14:26.04`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
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`14:27.42`	`JademusSreg`	`All dancing henceforth shall intend to express computation.`
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`14:34.00`	`Obatztrara`	`thats hillarious grim001`
`14:34.02`	`Obatztrara`	`:D`
`14:34.39`	`grim001`	`"That's what you get for using interpretive dancing. A compiled dance would be much faster."`
`14:35.25`	`Obatztrara`	`x)`
`14:35.42`	`JademusSreg`	`Quick, someone make a dance that demonstrates Turing completeness.`
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`14:46.44`	`Motive`	`My God`
`14:46.47`	`Motive`	`A turing-complete dance.`
`14:46.49`	`Motive`	`God help us all.`
`14:46.56`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`14:46.58`	`Motive`	`Well`
`14:46.59`	`Motive`	`actually`
`14:47.08`	`Motive`	`maybe I could benefit from this. I can't dance worth a shit. If dancing is more like programming`
`14:47.09`	`Motive`	`I WILL BE #1`
`14:47.15`	`JademusSreg`	`YES`
`14:47.19`	`JademusSreg`	`DO IT`
`14:47.26`	`Motive`	`xD`
`14:47.26`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, I'm messing with layout files.`
`14:47.42`	`JademusSreg`	`Trying to figure out how to make it use a texture I imported.`
`14:47.48`	`Motive`	`Ah`
`14:48.02`	`JademusSreg`	`I can't figure out the file path syntax.`
`14:50.17`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm moving around message display frames so I can use them for my own nefarious purposes.`
`14:51.47`	`JademusSreg`	`It would be trivial to make dialog backs for them by scripting it, but then I wouldn't learn anything new. =)`
`14:52.13`	`Motive`	`I'm playing Mafia`
`14:52.13`	`Motive`	`haha`
`14:52.20`	`Motive`	`It grew on me`
`14:52.44`	`Nash\|327`	`sounds unhealthy`
`14:52.48`	`Nash\|327`	`amputate`
`14:53.03`	`XenoX101`	`yeah re: Mafia`
`14:53.08`	`XenoX101`	`I think it has the most awesome atmosphere`
`14:53.11`	`XenoX101`	`I've seen in a custom game`
`14:53.26`	`XenoX101`	`just wish it was a teensy bit quicker and more involving gameplay wise`
`14:53.35`	`JademusSreg`	`I concur.`
`14:53.40`	`JademusSreg`	`But I enjoy it. =D`
`14:53.56`	`XenoX101`	`ya its super well polished`
`14:54.03`	`XenoX101`	`looks like it took for-e-ver`
`14:54.12`	`XenoX101`	`with the custom UI and everything`
`14:54.37`	`JademusSreg`	`It sprung from DarkRevenant's head, fully formed and well armed.`
`14:55.09`	`XenoX101`	`is he on the forums?`
`14:55.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Dunno.`
`14:55.21`	`Nash\|327`	`DarkRevenant, thar reminds me of the generic nickname generator I wrote once`
`14:55.34`	`JademusSreg`	`I don't read the forums.`
`14:55.38`	`Nash\|327`	`It picked two words at random, one prefix and one suffix`
`14:56.01`	`JademusSreg`	`Zoolord Poopsmell.`
`14:56.04`	`Nash\|327`	`Stuff like Dark, Evil, Dragon, Knight, whatevs`
`14:56.18`	`Nash\|327`	`So you'd get stuff like DarkSlayer`
`14:56.27`	`Nash\|327`	`and StormDragon`
`14:56.55`	`JademusSreg`	`Reappropriate that script and use it in a Forum Generator. Comes with all its members preassembled.`
`15:03.13`	`XenoX101`	`Nash\|327, you could probably pick 70% of forum members using just that generator`
`15:07.48`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, <Texture val="@@UI/blahblah"/> is the usual format. I'm trying to find the directory or entry to which it refers, with no success so far.`
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`15:16.26`	`JademusSreg`	`Helral.`
`15:16.58`	`JademusSreg`	`Help me Helral; you're my only hope.`
`15:17.19`	`JademusSreg`	`bends down to stop C3PO recording.`
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`15:18.12`	`Obatztrara`	`jade you want to use a cutom texture in layout files?`
`15:18.17`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`15:18.31`	`Stewox`	`you're manually editing layouts ?`
`15:18.35`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`15:18.41`	`Obatztrara`	`ok, first you need an asset file to add your texture to the already existing assets`
`15:19.01`	`JademusSreg`	`Asset file?`
`15:19.09`	`Obatztrara`	`second`
`15:20.12`	`JademusSreg`	`brb, loading laundry`
`15:21.08`	`Obatztrara`	`alright`
`15:21.26`	`Obatztrara`	`make a new txt file, call it Assets`
`15:21.37`	`Obatztrara`	`add this line`
`15:21.51`	`Obatztrara`	`Assets\Textures\YOurCustomTexture`
`15:22.28`	`Obatztrara`	`wait, no, forgot something`
`15:22.41`	`Obatztrara`	`this is the correct line`
`15:23.05`	`Obatztrara`	`UI/NameForYourTexture=Assets\Textures\YourCustomTexture.dds`
`15:23.25`	`Obatztrara`	`now import the assets.txt you just made to your root directory`
`15:24.55`	`Obatztrara`	`actually import into the GameData folder`
`15:25.17`	`Obatztrara`	`once you have done all that you can start with the actual implementation of the texture, using layout files`
`15:26.52`	`Obatztrara`	`Oh god I just realized I forgot something. You can use file locations directly in the layout files. So I take back everything I just said. Sorry. Hopefully you're just getting back from laundry`
`15:27.09`	`Obatztrara`	`1) Import the custom texture into your map`
`15:27.39`	`Obatztrara`	`2) Adress it in your custom layout file using the complete path of the file. if you import to root, just the file name`
`15:28.01`	`Obatztrara`	`3) it should look like this: <Texture val="HeroIconHover.dds" layer="0"/>`
`15:28.10`	`Obatztrara`	`(HeroIconHover is the one I imported`
`15:29.01`	`Obatztrara`	`4) the real tricky part is to find the correct syntax to the texture you want to change`
`15:30.38`	`JManV\|Work`	`man, work is stressing me out already`
`15:30.53`	`JManV\|Work`	`i make a lot of reports for work... there are hundreds`
`15:31.09`	`JManV\|Work`	`and they all have names, but people make up their own for them`
`15:31.28`	`JManV\|Work`	`and then they tell me their "shipping report" is broken`
`15:31.43`	`JManV\|Work`	`or whatever`
`15:32.31`	`JManV\|Work`	`somehow i'm supposed to know what that means`
`15:34.04`	`JManV\|Work`	`also, "broke" is the word that they invariably use without specifying`
`15:34.48`	`JManV\|Work`	`and i could look directly at the report, and still be not be able to tell what's wrong with it`
`15:35.57`	`JManV\|Work`	`sorry, just needed to vent`
`15:36.04`	`JManV\|Work`	`ppl seem to love wasting my time`
`15:36.41`	`JManV\|Work`	`also there's a ticketing system that i just noticed no one seems to use`
`15:37.02`	`JManV\|Work`	`which explains why i get pinged by like 4 ppl at the same time and then get stressed out`
`15:37.28`	`JManV\|Work`	`i'm gonna have to start hammering ppl to create tickets`
`15:37.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Must be a pain in the ass to work with people who don't understand the tools with which they work and thus break.`
`15:37.47`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442d304d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.48.77)`
`15:38.15`	`JManV\|Work`	`well, we're moving into a better system`
`15:38.26`	`JManV\|Work`	`that will allow for a lot less of that`
`15:38.45`	`Bounty`	`Hey JMan`
`15:38.47`	`JManV\|Work`	`but we've got to get there`
`15:38.57`	`Obatztrara`	`Jade which texture do you want to change?`
`15:39.02`	`Bounty`	`How much does it cost to learn a programming language? on average`
`15:39.08`	`JManV\|Work`	`currently we're on two different ERP systems, each with inadequate reporting`
`15:39.16`	`JManV\|Work`	`$0`
`15:39.27`	`JManV\|Work`	`that's how much i learned PHP for`
`15:39.35`	`Bounty`	`No, i mean if i wanted to go to school for it`
`15:39.38`	`Bounty`	`not self taught`
`15:39.38`	`JManV\|Work`	`i prolly bought a few books back in the day for C/C++`
`15:40.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Obatz, didn't work out well.`
`15:40.04`	`JManV\|Work`	`take a community college class or two`
`15:40.11`	`Bounty`	`yeah thats what im doing`
`15:40.15`	`JManV\|Work`	`few hundred dollars including books prolly`
`15:40.24`	`Bounty`	`can i only take the one class?`
`15:40.28`	`grim001`	`if you want to go to school to learn a programming language, it will cost you infinity dollars, because they will never teach it properly.`
`15:40.29`	`Obatztrara`	`did you do the first thing I said? because that wasnt needed actually`
`15:40.34`	`JManV\|Work`	`well, you can start there`
`15:40.35`	`JademusSreg`	`And I'm not changing textures. I'm adding a border for a frame.`
`15:40.39`	`JManV\|Work`	`and see if you need a second`
`15:40.47`	`Obatztrara`	`ah`
`15:40.53`	`JManV\|Work`	`there's always room to learn more in programming`
`15:40.59`	`Bounty`	`yeah`
`15:41.07`	`Bounty`	`i figure, go to school to take one and see how i do`
`15:41.11`	`JManV\|Work`	`at some point you need to move to a more self-taught routine`
`15:41.16`	`Bounty`	`yeah`
`15:41.17`	`JademusSreg`	`The file is in root, and the filename is correct. Not working.`
`15:41.19`	`JManV\|Work`	`it's just a matter of when you feel you can do that`
`15:41.26`	`Bounty`	`but i figured the first one i should prolly go to school for right?`
`15:41.32`	`Mephs`	`bounty's going to drop an infinite loop, break the school network and quit`
`15:41.44`	`Obatztrara`	`are you sure you are adressing the frame correctly? Could you mke any other changes?`
`15:41.54`	`grim001`	`or you could start fooling around with galaxy and be halfway prepared to use C, C++, Java and other similar languages by the time you've learned a decent amount of it.`
`15:42.13`	`Mephs`	`if only galaxy taught you anything about good practices and memory management, i'd agree.`
`15:42.15`	`JademusSreg`	`Pretty sure. I'll double check.`
`15:42.20`	`Mephs`	`(java not included in that)`
`15:42.41`	`Bounty`	`Do you mean Galaxy Scripting or GUI grim001?`
`15:42.49`	`grim001`	`obviously galaxy scripting`
`15:42.54`	`JademusSreg`	`I think I see a problem. Let's see if I can fix it.`
`15:42.58`	`JManV\|Work`	`galaxy is not perfect, but it's a start`
`15:42.59`	`grim001`	`GUI isn't going to teach you anything except maybe give you a leg up on starting with galaxy`
`15:43.12`	`JManV\|Work`	`it's about as adequete a start as BASIC`
`15:43.30`	`Bounty`	`Well, whats a good first language to learn (and possibly land a basic job with)`
`15:43.32`	`Obatztrara`	`Jade add this frame into the frame your making changes too. if it works you should see a frame around the area you are working with`
`15:43.33`	`Obatztrara`	`http://pastebin.com/ctDBbZDk`
`15:43.34`	`JManV\|Work`	`BASIC is a joke programming language as well, and falls prey to many "worst practices"`
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`15:43.52`	`JManV\|Work`	`i think C is fundamental`
`15:44.05`	`grim001`	`Bounty, you arent going to get a job programming based on a limited amount of experience with 1 language.`
`15:44.06`	`JManV\|Work`	`most programming languages these days are some C-variant`
`15:44.11`	`JademusSreg`	`I arrived at the solution independently. Testing now. =D`
`15:44.25`	`JManV\|Work`	`grim: PHP`
`15:44.27`	`JManV\|Work`	`:P`
`15:44.27`	`Bounty`	`I've seen jobs around where i live that only require PHP`
`15:44.32`	`JManV\|Work`	`^`
`15:44.43`	`Bounty`	`Which was what i would think i would take?`
`15:44.48`	`JManV\|Work`	`PHP is a loose C-variant`
`15:44.48`	`Bounty`	`as a starter`
`15:45.00`	`JManV\|Work`	`but you can take classes directly in PHP`
`15:45.04`	`grim001`	`there's a company near here that's hiring PHP programmers, but somewhere in the fine print they say that they want you to also know 15 other web-related languages.`
`15:45.18`	`JManV\|Work`	`if you understand variables, functions, and arrays, you're off to a good start`
`15:45.42`	`Bounty`	`well we alrdy know i understand those JMan =P`
`15:45.42`	`grim001`	`and all of those things can be explained to anyone with a somewhat logical mind in a span of 15 minutes`
`15:45.51`	`Bounty`	`yeah`
`15:45.53`	`Bounty`	`thats what i said`
`15:46.06`	`Bounty`	`imo, variables, fuctions and arrays are common sense lol`
`15:46.16`	`JManV\|Work`	`grim: a lot of ppl do not understand concepts like those`
`15:46.26`	`JManV\|Work`	`their minds just can't wrap around them`
`15:46.28`	`grim001`	`those people should not try to become programmers.`
`15:46.38`	`JManV\|Work`	`those are abstract concepts`
`15:46.40`	`JManV\|Work`	`absolutely`
`15:46.52`	`JManV\|Work`	`that's why i say, understanding those concepts is the barrier to most ppl`
`15:47.08`	`Bounty`	`i dont see how though JMan`
`15:47.15`	`JManV\|Work`	`if you can't think in those terms, you'll never get by`
`15:47.17`	`JademusSreg`	`It's working.`
`15:47.21`	`Bounty`	`if i can understand them, anyone should lol`
`15:47.23`	`Bounty`	`but neways`
`15:47.31`	`Bounty`	`can you only take a PHP class?`
`15:47.31`	`JManV\|Work`	`you'd be suprised bounty`
`15:47.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Though the texture will need to be modified, I expect.`
`15:47.41`	`Obatztrara`	`nice`
`15:47.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Or perhaps it is my offsets.`
`15:47.47`	`grim001`	`Bounty, I've taken a PHP class, no one in the class learned anything.`
`15:47.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Thanks for the advice, Obat.`
`15:47.51`	`Bounty`	`and im assuming PHP would be under certificate courses?`
`15:47.53`	`JManV\|Work`	`abstract thinking is not something everyone is capable of`
`15:48.05`	`grim001`	`all programming classes I've ever had the misfortune of sitting in on were absolutely worthless.`
`15:48.06`	`JManV\|Work`	`there are certs for PHP`
`15:48.13`	`JManV\|Work`	`same`
`15:48.25`	`JManV\|Work`	`except a computer graphics class I took`
`15:48.34`	`JManV\|Work`	`that was truly challenging and interesting`
`15:48.47`	`JManV\|Work`	`but intro to computer science was a joke`
`15:49.09`	`JManV\|Work`	`even the second part was a joke`
`15:49.22`	`Bounty`	`well wtf then`
`15:49.23`	`Bounty`	`what do i do`
`15:49.24`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`15:49.25`	`JManV\|Work`	`when they started covering things like advanced data structures`
`15:49.31`	`grim001`	`you start programming something, bounty.`
`15:49.39`	`JManV\|Work`	`bounty: i learned PHP from the web`
`15:49.47`	`JManV\|Work`	`there are an immense number of resources out there`
`15:49.49`	`Bounty`	`i know but im trying to tell u`
`15:50.01`	`grim001`	`go make a hangman game using basic PHP`
`15:50.04`	`Bounty`	`with learning something new like that, im not good at self teaching`
`15:50.22`	`grim001`	`I would say that self-teaching is the most important skill of a programmer.`
`15:50.28`	`JManV\|Work`	`^`
`15:50.30`	`Bounty`	`yeah`
`15:50.32`	`Bounty`	`but im saying`
`15:50.36`	`Bounty`	`i know ZERO language`
`15:50.39`	`JManV\|Work`	`experienece is indeed invaluable`
`15:50.41`	`Bounty`	`so`
`15:50.50`	`grim001`	`then start with something like Galaxy, bounty`
`15:50.56`	`JManV\|Work`	`but in programming, you rarely get to program something you actually know how to do before you start`
`15:50.57`	`Bounty`	`i cant just start off self teaching. Once i get into it then yeah sure`
`15:51.10`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`15:51.11`	`JManV\|Work`	`it's about constant self-teaching`
`15:51.12`	`grim001`	`although it's a horrible language, at least you can see the immediate effects of what you create.`
`15:51.30`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Jum-Jum^ (~Jum-Jum@h85-8-27-182.dynamic.se.alltele.net)`
`15:51.33`	`Bounty`	`how come last time i asked something like this everyone said take a PHP class at your local college`
`15:51.40`	`Bounty`	`now everyone is againsti t`
`15:52.03`	`grim001`	`anyone telling you that school is a good place to learn programming is just... wrong`
`15:52.10`	`JManV\|Work`	`if that's what you need, do it`
`15:52.18`	`JManV\|Work`	`but no promises`
`15:52.31`	`JManV\|Work`	`you may very well learn something`
`15:52.34`	`Bounty`	`i dont understand why school is such a bad place to start?`
`15:52.39`	`JManV\|Work`	`i have a hard time in those atmospheres`
`15:52.45`	`Bounty`	`considering i know absolutely nothing`
`15:52.55`	`JManV\|Work`	`usually because other students hold me back from learning at the rate i am capable`
`15:53.07`	`Bounty`	`im the opposite JMan`
`15:53.08`	`grim001`	`if you understand variables, arrays, and functions, you can create a SC2 map using galaxy, bounty`
`15:53.17`	`Bounty`	`i do great in classes that are based on something i want to learn`
`15:53.39`	`Bounty`	`f*ck the other students lol`
`15:53.48`	`JManV\|Work`	`i'm the type of person that sighs when someone asks a question`
`15:54.00`	`Bounty`	`exactly`
`15:54.02`	`Bounty`	`im not like that`
`15:54.04`	`Bounty`	`ignore em ><`
`15:54.04`	`JManV\|Work`	`cuz i usually already get it, and am ready to move on`
`15:54.19`	`Bounty`	`ok well`
`15:54.21`	`JManV\|Work`	`and usually the teacher's moving pretty slow for me to begin with`
`15:54.25`	`Bounty`	`What would a PHP class classify as`
`15:54.27`	`JManV\|Work`	`so i lose focuz`
`15:54.28`	`JManV\|Work`	`s`
`15:54.30`	`Bounty`	`to sign up for it`
`15:54.35`	`Bounty`	`i cant find it on this stupid site :)`
`15:54.39`	`JManV\|Work`	`web programming?`
`15:54.46`	`JManV\|Work`	`make sure it's not just HTML tho`
`15:54.53`	`Bounty`	`yeah but like, what section`
`15:54.56`	`Bounty`	`Career Programs`
`15:54.58`	`Bounty`	`etc`
`15:55.17`	`JManV\|Work`	`computer information systems?`
`15:55.33`	`Bounty`	`no`
`15:55.35`	`Bounty`	`not that`
`15:55.41`	`Bounty`	`i mean SECTION like`
`15:55.44`	`Bounty`	`Career Programs`
`15:55.48`	`Bounty`	`Cert Courses`
`15:55.50`	`Bounty`	`Electives`
`15:55.52`	`Bounty`	`etc`
`15:56.25`	`JManV\|Work`	`dunno`
`15:56.32`	`JManV\|Work`	`maybe cert courses`
`15:56.44`	`Bounty`	`the site for this place blows`
`15:56.46`	`Bounty`	`so hard`
`15:56.58`	`JManV\|Work`	`PHP certifies through Zend tho, it's not quite like a Microsoft cert`
`15:57.14`	`JManV\|Work`	`make them a better one :P`
`15:57.21`	`Bounty`	`lol i kno rite`
`15:57.39`	`Bounty`	`all i keep getting is errors sayign the page cant be displayed`
`15:57.58`	`grim001`	`and you want to learn web programming from those guys?`
`15:58.26`	`JManV\|Work`	`heh`
`15:58.48`	`Bounty`	`well, im tired of retail shit so im not being to picky atm lol`
`16:00.47`	`Bounty`	`Whats better though`
`16:00.53`	`Bounty`	`Taking a course at the college`
`16:00.59`	`Bounty`	`or just going to a tech school`
`16:01.03`	`Helral\|afk`	`meow`
`16:02.57`	`Bounty`	`PHP / MySQL`
`16:03.07`	`Bounty`	`thats what they have at the college`
`16:03.15`	`Mephs`	`you can learn web development on your own in 3 hrs`
`16:03.20`	`Mephs`	`dont waste your time`
`16:03.27`	`Bounty`	`Combining the PHP scripting language with the MySQL database management system, students will be able to develop skills in server-side scripting. These techniques can be used to create user databases, registrations, and login forms on websites.`
`16:03.34`	`JManV\|Work`	`PHP / MySQL is good`
`16:03.34`	`Bounty`	`well i dont know any languages at all mephs`
`16:03.37`	`JManV\|Work`	`that's what you need`
`16:03.40`	`Bounty`	`so i wanna take a class to break me into it`
`16:03.49`	`Mephs`	`if you can work the trigger editor`
`16:03.51`	`Bounty`	`once i get on a roll i can self teach myself`
`16:03.52`	`Mephs`	`you'll figure it out`
`16:03.55`	`Bounty`	`yeah i know`
`16:03.58`	`JManV\|Work`	`MySQL is what got me into database programming in the first place`
`16:04.04`	`Bounty`	`but i just figure the best way to break into it is to take a class`
`16:04.11`	`Bounty`	`then just teach myself`
`16:04.26`	`Bounty`	`i dont need to know anything to take that class right?`
`16:04.30`	`Bounty`	`bc`
`16:04.33`	`Bounty`	`it was under`
`16:04.40`	`Bounty`	`Non Credit Career Advancement`
`16:04.42`	`Bounty`	`><`
`16:04.48`	`JademusSreg`	`Wakka wakka`
`16:05.03`	`Mephs`	`why would you want to be a web development guy`
`16:05.06`	`Mephs`	`anyway`
`16:05.10`	`Mephs`	`they're the lowest life forms on the planet`
`16:05.24`	`JManV\|Work`	`no way`
`16:05.27`	`JManV\|Work`	`tech support is lower`
`16:05.30`	`Bounty`	`bc i want a job =P`
`16:05.33`	`Bounty`	`btw`
`16:05.34`	`Mephs`	`in terms of programmers i meant`
`16:05.41`	`Bounty`	`PHP and SQL seem to be bundled`
`16:05.50`	`Bounty`	`under Advanced Web Developement`
`16:05.58`	`Bounty`	`I should be able to not take EVERYTHING under it right?`
`16:06.00`	`Bounty`	`and just take that`
`16:06.06`	`JManV\|Work`	`do you know HTML?`
`16:06.16`	`Bounty`	`not really`
`16:06.19`	`JManV\|Work`	`becuase PHP isn't going to do you much good if you don't know HTML`
`16:06.37`	`Bounty`	`total cost is 1099`
`16:06.42`	`Bounty`	`for`
`16:06.46`	`Bounty`	`HTML/CSS`
`16:06.47`	`Bounty`	`Javascript`
`16:06.55`	`Bounty`	`PHP / MySQL`
`16:07.03`	`JManV\|Work`	`there's a whole class for javascript?`
`16:07.07`	`Mephs`	`if you live in 2011 and dont know html`
`16:07.14`	`Mephs`	`i e-punch you`
`16:07.26`	`Bounty`	`but it says Prerequisite - Web Design and Developement lol`
`16:07.31`	`JManV\|Work`	`it's called "download the script from the internet". class over.`
`16:08.14`	`JManV\|Work`	`i've coded very little actual javascript for myself`
`16:08.21`	`JManV\|Work`	`on occasion it does come up`
`16:08.25`	`JManV\|Work`	`but so rarely`
`16:08.35`	`Bounty`	`i wish they would f*cking tell u what u need to know before taking the class`
`16:08.50`	`Bounty`	`all it says is Prerequisite - Web Design and Developement lol`
`16:08.59`	`Bounty`	`bc this is under Advanced`
`16:09.17`	`JManV\|Work`	`that's basically what they're doing`
`16:09.28`	`JManV\|Work`	`you do need to know javascript`
`16:09.36`	`JManV\|Work`	`i'm not sure it needs a whole class`
`16:09.47`	`JManV\|Work`	`but you do need to know it`
`16:09.57`	`Bounty`	`well fuck`
`16:10.03`	`Bounty`	`i thought i could just take PHP and be done with it`
`16:11.15`	`JManV\|Work`	`PHP is often used to build dynamic HTML`
`16:11.22`	`JManV\|Work`	`or even dynamic javascript`
`16:11.38`	`JManV\|Work`	`without an understanding of that, the premise of PHP won't make much sense`
`16:13.03`	`JManV\|Work`	`you'd probably need more than that too`
`16:13.31`	`JManV\|Work`	`in order to get a job, you'd have to have at least a basic understanding of AJAX, SOAP, and XML`
`16:13.46`	`Bounty`	`????????????`
`16:13.49`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`16:13.54`	`JManV\|Work`	`exactly`
`16:14.08`	`Bounty`	`Then why do i constantly see jobs around here that only ask for PHP`
`16:14.08`	`JManV\|Work`	`those build on top of everything else`
`16:14.27`	`JManV\|Work`	`well, you can try`
`16:14.31`	`Mephs`	`bounty`
`16:14.34`	`Mephs`	`just stick to making first person pacman games`
`16:14.37`	`JManV\|Work`	`some companies won't use those technologies at all`
`16:14.44`	`JManV\|Work`	`but to get ahead`
`16:14.57`	`JManV\|Work`	`those are technologies that are used a lot`
`16:15.46`	`JManV\|Work`	`MySQL is another key one, but that's covered`
`16:15.51`	`JManV\|Work`	`MySQL is actually critical`
`16:16.00`	`JademusSreg`	`I wonder if I can set opacity via layout.`
`16:16.28`	`JademusSreg`	`If not, I'll need another texture for them.`
`16:16.34`	`JManV\|Work`	`see likely`
`16:16.50`	`Helral\|afk`	`opacity for?`
`16:17.17`	`JademusSreg`	`For a border image frame.`
`16:17.38`	`Bounty`	`the local college has a game design section ><`
`16:17.48`	`Bounty`	`that would prolly take a loooong time to complete though lol`
`16:20.29`	`JManV\|Work`	`4 yr generally`
`16:21.01`	`JManV\|Work`	`ppl still come out of those classes unprepared tho`
`16:21.11`	`JManV\|Work`	`depends on the person`
`16:21.16`	`Mephs`	`nothing will prepare you like hands-on experience`
`16:21.30`	`Obatztrara`	`imo your making it sound way harder than I've heard from other ppl...(yes I have not actually started to work in the field)`
`16:22.03`	`Bounty`	`I dont understand why this conversation has gone on so long`
`16:22.13`	`Bounty`	`all i asked was, whats a good course to take just to see how i do`
`16:22.32`	`Bounty`	`just one class/language`
`16:22.33`	`Obatztrara`	`I know a guy who would apply with a list of languages he suposedly knows. During the first week he would find out which of them was actually needed and pretty much learn it during the next week`
`16:22.56`	`JManV\|Work`	`heh`
`16:23.10`	`Helral\|afk`	`sounds like someone like me.`
`16:23.17`	`Obatztrara`	`;)`
`16:23.17`	`JManV\|Work`	`i focus on my ability to learn quickly`
`16:23.33`	`JManV\|Work`	`with concrete examples from my past`
`16:23.35`	`Bounty`	`anyone? ><`
`16:23.44`	`Helral\|afk`	`JademusSreg: hmm no idea if that is possible. :(`
`16:24.07`	`JManV\|Work`	`bounty: you could maybe learn HTML by yourself and then take a PHP class`
`16:24.20`	`JManV\|Work`	`but you're not gonna have any luck with PHP if you don't know HTML`
`16:24.21`	`Helral\|afk`	`Bounty: no idea, I found just about every language I looked into boring as learning curve ;p`
`16:24.31`	`Bounty`	`lol JMAn`
`16:24.36`	`Bounty`	`i explained this like 5 times`
`16:24.45`	`JManV\|Work`	`then there's not just 1 class`
`16:24.51`	`JManV\|Work`	`that's all there is to it`
`16:24.54`	`JManV\|Work`	`you lack the background`
`16:25.00`	`JademusSreg`	`Helral, don't worry about it. I may just use a similar texture with a higher alpha.`
`16:25.01`	`Bounty`	`When it comes to something new like this, i cant self teach until i get the feel for it`
`16:25.13`	`grim001`	`bounty, in programming, everything is constantly new`
`16:25.16`	`grim001`	`to you`
`16:25.20`	`JManV\|Work`	`HTML is stupid easy`
`16:25.22`	`grim001`	`until you already know it.`
`16:25.40`	`Stewox`	`if sixen comes`
`16:25.52`	`Stewox`	`tell thim to check assets for approval (file)`
`16:26.20`	`Stewox`	`again`
`16:30.16`	`Mephs`	`daddy i want to be a web developer when I grow u-SMACK`
`16:30.57`	`JManV\|Work`	`no reason to hate on web devs`
`16:31.05`	`Mephs`	`they are like the janitors of the IT world`
`16:31.06`	`JManV\|Work`	`i found it to be fun`
`16:31.29`	`Helral\|afk`	`daddy I wanna be a web dev when I grow up. Dad: you wana end up like me? Son: ow nevermind, think I'll be a doctor instead.`
`16:31.31`	`JManV\|Work`	`you can be pretty creative in web dev`
`16:31.42`	`JManV\|Work`	`there's a lot of technologies out there that do a lot of cool stuff`
`16:31.46`	`Mephs`	`you can be pretty creative at drawing pictures too`
`16:31.50`	`Mephs`	`and homeless.`
`16:32.01`	`Mephs`	`:D`
`16:32.47`	`JManV\|Work`	`bah`
`16:33.05`	`JManV\|Work`	`you have no basis for that comparison`
`16:33.11`	`Mephs`	`sure i do`
`16:33.18`	`Mephs`	`i once was a web developer`
`16:33.22`	`Mephs`	`i made $1.25/hr`
`16:33.25`	`Mephs`	`lived on the streets`
`16:33.29`	`Mephs`	`then i learned java and got a promotion`
`16:33.31`	`JManV\|Work`	`$1.25/hr?`
`16:33.37`	`Mephs`	`now i've got a private yacht and 3 homes on the beach`
`16:33.48`	`JManV\|Work`	`seem exaggerated on both sides...`
`16:34.01`	`Mephs`	`i would know if i had a yacht or not, sir`
`16:34.02`	`Mephs`	`look`
`16:34.03`	`Mephs`	`~Mephs`
`16:34.04`	`purl`	`methinks mephs is someone with three more yachts than you!`
`16:34.21`	`JManV\|Work`	`i doubt it somehow`
`16:34.27`	`Mephs`	`purl knows all`
`16:34.28`	`purl`	`and don't you forget it`
`16:34.30`	`JManV\|Work`	`but, no, there's not a lot of money in web dev`
`16:34.43`	`JManV\|Work`	`but it depends`
`16:34.48`	`Mephs`	`actually the money right now is in mobile development`
`16:34.56`	`Mephs`	`believe it or not`
`16:35.01`	`JManV\|Work`	`i do`
`16:35.07`	`JManV\|Work`	`the money is always moving`
`16:35.08`	`Mephs`	`well you didn't believe my yacht`
`16:35.10`	`Mephs`	`so i doubt you do`
`16:35.22`	`JManV\|Work`	`which is why you have to be capable of picking up something completely new, almost immediately`
`16:35.28`	`Mephs`	`mobile?`
`16:35.29`	`Mephs`	`its not new`
`16:35.30`	`Mephs`	`its java.`
`16:35.37`	`Mephs`	`just compressed.`
`16:35.46`	`Mephs`	`android = java`
`16:36.06`	`Mephs`	`iphone = java? I think...`
`16:36.10`	`Mephs`	`i haven't scratched iphone shit`
`16:36.11`	`JManV\|Work`	`prolyl`
`16:36.22`	`Mephs`	`and now we're laughing at all the guys who said java had no future`
`16:36.23`	`JManV\|Work`	`windows phone = yuk`
`16:36.37`	`Mephs`	`(like me)`
`16:36.45`	`JManV\|Work`	`when they created it, the idea of a virtual machine seemed ludicrous`
`16:36.52`	`JManV\|Work`	`no computers could handle it, really`
`16:37.02`	`grim001`	`it seems that the native type "animtarget" was removed at some point.`
`16:37.03`	`JManV\|Work`	`but still, full apps developed in java... yuk`
`16:37.29`	`JManV\|Work`	`so bloated`
`16:37.39`	`JManV\|Work`	`eclipse is semi-decent`
`16:37.48`	`JManV\|Work`	`open office is pretty bloated`
`16:38.07`	`JManV\|Work`	`i have this oracle sqldeveloper program... absolutely miserable`
`16:39.00`	`Mephs`	`lol`
`16:39.17`	`JManV\|Work`	`you can't scroll to fast because it can't refresh fast enough`
`16:39.17`	`Mephs`	`i dont like java apps but java makes a fantastic infrastructure for things like mobile computing`
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`16:39.35`	`JManV\|Work`	`yeah`
`16:39.42`	`depthsofchaos`	`hai`
`16:39.44`	`Mephs`	`and minecraft.`
`16:39.51`	`JManV\|Work`	`it's never really taken off for web programming, either`
`16:39.54`	`depthsofchaos`	`anyone had the problem where his game and editor crahsed on startup?:o`
`16:39.58`	`depthsofchaos`	`since the new patch -.-`
`16:39.59`	`JManV\|Work`	`some use it, most don't`
`16:40.07`	`Mephs`	`ah...i dont mind java for web dev`
`16:40.13`	`JManV\|Work`	`and flash is becoming the new web programming engine`
`16:40.23`	`Mephs`	`i thought flash was getting phased out by html 5`
`16:40.30`	`JManV\|Work`	`is it?`
`16:40.35`	`Mephs`	`i'm not up on my tech trends`
`16:40.41`	`depthsofchaos`	`and silverlight:o`
`16:40.51`	`Mephs`	`silverlolt`
`16:40.52`	`JManV\|Work`	`no one used silverlight`
`16:41.03`	`JManV\|Work`	`they were late on that one by like 3 years`
`16:41.12`	`Mephs`	`its still shitty`
`16:41.13`	`JManV\|Work`	`flash is already so prominent`
`16:41.32`	`JManV\|Work`	`look at all the web games made in flash`
`16:41.41`	`Mephs`	`and yeah flash is too widespread now to really be replaced`
`16:42.02`	`Mephs`	`with web dev you kind of are forced into using standardization or you get lumped into this niche bracket of uselessness`
`16:42.06`	`JManV\|Work`	`that's not even mentioning flash video... that's different really`
`16:42.28`	`Mephs`	`so once something takes root its impossible to uproot it`
`16:42.28`	`JManV\|Work`	`but even more ubiquitous`
`16:42.45`	`JManV\|Work`	`its lunch time for me`
`16:43.15`	`Mephs`	`i write code for a living and i dont even like galaxy script. i use GUI lols`
`16:43.21`	`Mephs`	`galaxy script is for hipsters.`
`16:43.41`	`JManV\|Food`	`i use GUI as well`
`16:43.51`	`JManV\|Food`	`it has its advantages... it really does`
`16:44.11`	`JManV\|Food`	`anyways, off to find foodz`
`16:45.00`	`depthsofchaos`	`my sc2 simply got fuxed up by the last patch -.-`
`16:45.07`	`depthsofchaos`	`crashes on login makes no sense`
`16:45.47`	`Helral\|afk`	`lol`
`16:46.50`	`depthsofchaos`	`is there a way to roll back the patch ? if i just delete the folders`
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`16:49.27`	`Helral\|afk`	`did you try the repair utility?`
`16:50.38`	`depthsofchaos`	`says it cant connect to the servers`
`16:50.42`	`depthsofchaos`	`the repair stufff`
`16:51.10`	`depthsofchaos`	`hmm`
`16:51.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Hipsters wakka wakka`
`16:51.56`	`grim001`	`Mephs: right now it is borderline insane to try to actually use galaxy... but once some decent tools are developed GUI will be for lamers.`
`16:52.11`	`depthsofchaos`	`why cant i connect t the server:/`
`16:53.47`	`depthsofchaos`	`manual patch files are unavailable also`
`16:53.48`	`depthsofchaos`	`kewl`
`16:54.21`	`depthsofchaos`	`can anyone acces this file?http://ftp.blizzard.com/pub/starcraftII/patches/pc/sc2-1.3.1-enGB.exe`
`16:54.37`	`depthsofchaos`	`oh now it works -.-`
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`17:06.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`....`
`17:07.26`	`Helral\|afk`	`meows at the dots`
`17:08.17`	`depthsofchaos`	`meh sc2 cant conect to the launcher, but why ..`
`17:09.13`	`AlphA_VsT`	`0.o`
`17:09.21`	`Helral\|afk`	`because your firewall blocks it since the patch`
`17:09.46`	`depthsofchaos`	`not possible, didnt change any setting and its all allowed :o`
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`17:11.53`	`Helral\|afk`	`your goverment blocked sc2? ;p`
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`17:12.44`	`depthsofchaos`	`that still doesnt explain why it crashes :o`
`17:13.01`	`Helral\|afk`	`hmmmm you've got an invalid file somewhere? ;p`
`17:13.32`	`Helral\|afk`	`I do hope that you don't have a mpq editor opened ;p`
`17:13.41`	`depthsofchaos`	`ye but where my version files still show 1.3 patch`
`17:14.01`	`depthsofchaos`	`tho i patched to 1.3.1`
`17:19.14`	`depthsofchaos`	`time to burn blizz headquarters -.-`
`17:20.09`	`depthsofchaos`	`and it wants me to log into sc2 to use the editor`
`17:20.13`	`depthsofchaos`	`outrageous`
`17:21.46`	`Helral\|afk`	`:)`
`17:26.35`	`depthsofchaos`	`and the manual patch is downloading with 20kb/s :o`
`17:26.43`	`depthsofchaos`	`im having a seizure here`
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`17:28.00`	`Helral\|afk`	`O.o`
`17:28.05`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`17:28.17`	`Helral\|afk`	`throws a dog on depthsofchaos to stop the seizure.`
`17:32.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Hm.`
`17:32.15`	`JademusSreg`	`Now to get chat text to display small.`
`17:32.28`	`JademusSreg`	`My first attempt had odd results.`
`17:33.00`	`JademusSreg`	`Text message to the field showed up correctly.`
`17:33.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Chat message showed up as chat default.`
`17:34.32`	`Stewox`	`depthofchaos`
`17:34.36`	`Stewox`	`yes it is acessible`
`17:34.47`	`Stewox`	`oh now i read one reply below ...`
`17:34.49`	`Helral\|afk`	`JademusSreg: did you adjust the style?`
`17:34.58`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes. For chat display.`
`17:35.11`	`JademusSreg`	`<Style name="PhotonChatDisplay" template="InternationalTemplate" height="13" vjustify="Bottom"/>`
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`17:35.32`	`Helral\|afk`	`ChatDisplay? ow another one even.`
`17:35.35`	`JademusSreg`	`I apply it in the frame.`
`17:35.46`	`Ashamed`	`good afternoons`
`17:35.54`	`Helral\|afk`	`ahhh :)`
`17:35.56`	`JademusSreg`	`Hi.`
`17:35.59`	`Helral\|afk`	`meow`
`17:35.59`	`Ashamed`	`got a new schedule at work :( i dont get off until 8`
`17:36.08`	`JademusSreg`	`I can overwrite it iff I must, I suppose.`
`17:36.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Any path silliness about which I should know?`
`17:37.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Or can I overwrite the value with impunity?`
`17:39.58`	`Stewox`	`finally`
`17:40.05`	`Stewox`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/full-sc2-datascript-extract-1-3/`
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`17:45.50`	`depthsofchaos`	`so if i reinstall my game i can just copy the versions folder back in?`
`17:46.00`	`depthsofchaos`	`and it will work without patching from the beginning?`
`17:46.52`	`Helral\|afk`	`dunno I never had to do a reinstall`
`17:47.00`	`AlphA_VsT`	`same`
`17:47.11`	`Helral\|afk`	`you should whack sixen when he logs back on.`
`17:47.14`	`Helral\|afk`	`uhm I mean ask`
`17:48.45`	`grim001`	`afk for lunch`
`17:52.14`	`Dekar`	`meow`
`17:52.29`	`Dekar`	`oh wait, wrong language`
`17:52.30`	`Dekar`	`hi!`
`17:52.45`	`Helral\|afk`	`meows`
`17:53.15`	`Kueken`	`an afk cat meows...`
`17:53.23`	`Kueken`	`how would you explain that`
`17:53.39`	`Helral\|afk`	`meeooww meow meeow`
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`17:53.59`	`Dekar`	`he is decieving us all`
`17:54.21`	`Helral\|the\|Cat`	`meows`
`17:54.27`	`Kueken`	`heh`
`17:54.30`	`Kueken`	`you got me`
`17:54.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
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`17:55.02`	`Helral`	`meows`
`17:55.21`	`Kueken`	`multifuctional`
`17:55.30`	`Kueken`	`he can do it from whatever stance he pleases`
`17:57.28`	`Dekar`	`no, that would be multifucktional`
`17:57.35`	`Helral`	`meows while climbing up the wall.`
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`17:58.47`	`QueenGambit`	`I have ally computers on my map but I do not want players to be able to move them around. How to disable that via triggers besides disabling selecting units?`
`17:59.18`	`Helral`	`don't share control?`
`17:59.47`	`*** part/#sc2mapster LordAbyss1 (~Christoph@150.135.210.57)`
`17:59.48`	`JademusSreg`	`Hahaha`
`18:00.25`	`QueenGambit`	`whats the trigger?`
`18:00.49`	`A1win`	`should be off by default`
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`18:01.12`	`A1win`	`you can change it with the alliance aspect action`
`18:01.12`	`SouLCarveR`	`anybody here really good with foot prints?`
`18:01.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Sure.`
`18:01.50`	`SouLCarveR`	`I have a structure that when I Que it to build..... it uses 3by3 foot print.... when it actually starts building it uses 2by2 .... no where in the unit does it say to use 3by3 .... what do I do`
`18:01.51`	`JademusSreg`	`All footprint involve is setting a few flags, painting the pathing.`
`18:02.53`	`SouLCarveR`	`its like when the structure is QUE'd it uses a different foot print then the unit is actually set to use`
`18:03.21`	`JademusSreg`	`There is a different between the placement check for the footprint (done via layers) and the pathing footprint.`
`18:03.55`	`JademusSreg`	`Shape defines the pathing footprint, layer defines the other properties, including placement.`
`18:04.16`	`SouLCarveR`	`well im using the standard 2by2 footprint`
`18:04.24`	`SouLCarveR`	`on the units "placement" foot print`
`18:05.26`	`SouLCarveR`	`but when it is que'd to build prior to building .... like after I que the structure to be built.... it uses a 3by3 pathing blocker so I cant que up another structure right next to it.... unit it actually starts building and goes back to using the correct foot print of 2by2`
`18:08.49`	`Helral`	`meows`
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`18:19.55`	`Ashamed`	`everyones computer is bromken this morning`
`18:20.10`	`Helral`	`meow?`
`18:20.19`	`AlphA_VsT`	`whats teh pathing footprint? lol`
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`18:27.01`	`JManV\|Food`	`work man`
`18:27.18`	`JManV\|Work`	`these ppl... they just don't get it`
`18:28.45`	`JManV\|Work`	`constantly trying to get me to make programs that can handle NULLs, but they don't understand that the program can't make good decisions without enough data.`
`18:29.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Their lives are tragic comedy, the sort of neutered toothless performance just tame enough for network television. =D.`
`18:29.30`	`AlphA_VsT`	`0.o`
`18:30.20`	`JManV\|Work`	`i keep trying to tell them that NULL is an error condition... because NULL DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING`
`18:30.55`	`Ashamed`	`AHHHHHH`
`18:31.00`	`Ashamed`	`who are we getting mad at ?`
`18:31.03`	`JManV\|Work`	`they try to say things like "Null is 0 most of the time"... no! zero is zero.`
`18:31.31`	`Ashamed`	`whaaaaat 0 is 0 !!!`
`18:31.41`	`JManV\|Work`	`ppl who don't want to give an application enough data to make good decisions, then blame the application when it makes bad decisions`
`18:32.03`	`SouLCarveR`	`JmanV programs that crash due to Nulls are crap`
`18:32.12`	`JManV\|Work`	`not crash. error.`
`18:32.18`	`Ashamed`	`inconceivable!`
`18:32.27`	`JManV\|Work`	`NULL is an error condition that means someone didn't put in the right data`
`18:32.33`	`SouLCarveR`	`as long as they dont terminate after clicking ok to the error`
`18:32.45`	`JManV\|Work`	`i can't make a decision off of a NULL, so I chose not to make one`
`18:33.17`	`JManV\|Work`	`but by doing so, I can actually report on NULLs and proactively detect error situations`
`18:33.29`	`JManV\|Work`	`if a NULL is ok, then I have no way to detect such conditions`
`18:34.14`	`JManV\|Work`	`unfortunately, the application doesn't force non-null values`
`18:35.06`	`JManV\|Work`	`the example i'm working with involves shipping information for parts`
`18:35.09`	`SouLCarveR`	`well its like this problem I have on my units`
`18:35.10`	`Ashamed`	`brb`
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`18:35.20`	`JManV\|Work`	`if information is missing, i can not accurately determine the cost of shipping`
`18:35.25`	`SouLCarveR`	`the structures footprint is "Null".... but in game its using 3by3`
`18:35.28`	`JManV\|Work`	`but they don't want to put all the data in`
`18:35.58`	`Dekar`	`NULL actually = 0 in german`
`18:36.06`	`SouLCarveR`	`make the error say "suck it douche bag"`
`18:36.09`	`JManV\|Work`	`so i'm constantly getting hit with these inaccurate rates based on bad data`
`18:36.23`	`JManV\|Work`	`actually NULL != NULL`
`18:36.32`	`JManV\|Work`	`NULL isn't equal to anything in SQL`
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`18:36.41`	`SouLCarveR`	`generally its ""`
`18:36.51`	`JManV\|Work`	`no, "" = ""`
`18:36.54`	`JManV\|Work`	`also different`
`18:37.01`	`JManV\|Work`	`vaguely...`
`18:37.07`	`Dekar`	`http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null`
`18:37.09`	`SouLCarveR`	`eh a null string field returns ""`
`18:37.11`	`JManV\|Work`	`it's still an absense of data`
`18:37.12`	`Dekar`	`and i quote`
`18:37.14`	`Ashamed`	`http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_character`
`18:37.17`	`Dekar`	`Die Null (0)`
`18:37.19`	`Dekar`	`:p`
`18:37.21`	`Ashamed`	`i think it depends on what language you are using`
`18:37.23`	`JManV\|Work`	`but it might represent a concious absense of data`
`18:37.24`	`Ashamed`	`some display it as a space`
`18:37.37`	`Ashamed`	`some display it as its own characters, and some display it as 0`
`18:37.40`	`Ashamed`	`i think...`
`18:38.00`	`JManV\|Work`	`conscious absense of data is always better than an unconscious absense of data`
`18:38.41`	`JManV\|Work`	`again, it goes back to the ability to proactively find invalid information so it can be fixed before it causes a problem in the first place`
`18:39.15`	`JManV\|Work`	`i think i need a new job :P`
`18:39.21`	`Ashamed`	`you need a new job`
`18:39.29`	`JManV\|Work`	`i'm just constantly getting leaned on and i don't feel like i make enough`
`18:39.35`	`Ashamed`	`i have an agent tell me their computer froze twice this morning and she had to reboot to get it back`
`18:39.47`	`Ashamed`	`i check the logz and nothing >< i am pretty sure her mouse just stopped working lol`
`18:39.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`18:40.15`	`montagg`	`JManV\|Work: Tell your boss. Might get a raise if you're worth enough to the co. And if not, split.`
`18:40.25`	`JManV\|Work`	`if i felt i were making enough, i doubt any of this would bother me`
`18:40.35`	`JManV\|Work`	`yeah, that's the thing...`
`18:40.41`	`Ashamed`	`it does not work like that in the it field montagg lol`
`18:40.43`	`JManV\|Work`	`i should have been looking for a job for the last year`
`18:40.56`	`JManV\|Work`	`because they tried to bone me on a raise last year`
`18:40.57`	`Ashamed`	`i am pulling a few small clients from craigs list jman`
`18:41.00`	`Ashamed`	`you should check it out`
`18:41.11`	`Ashamed`	`craigs list has small companies looking for IT people all the time`
`18:41.17`	`Ashamed`	`just for them to call you up`
`18:41.21`	`Ashamed`	`and you come fix it`
`18:41.25`	`Ashamed`	`not a perniment job`
`18:41.46`	`JManV\|Work`	`i can't do freelance work again. i need a secure paycheck.`
`18:41.59`	`Dekar`	`dont forget to post your funny experiences on thedailywtf`
`18:42.02`	`montagg`	`Ashamed: It can. You can't be tied into a job you hate, ever. Bad investment of time, energy, and emotion.`
`18:42.18`	`Ashamed`	`in America thats what its all about`
`18:42.21`	`Ashamed`	`we are a slave to money`
`18:42.38`	`montagg`	`Humphry Bogart used to keep $100 (about $1-5k today`
`18:42.44`	`montagg`	`) in his drawer`
`18:42.44`	`JManV\|Work`	`well, i don't feel i make enough for the abuse i put up with`
`18:42.52`	`montagg`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:42.56`	`Ashamed`	`me neither :(`
`18:43.03`	`Ashamed`	`i have like 1500 saved up!`
`18:43.04`	`Ashamed`	`w00t`
`18:43.05`	`JManV\|Work`	`and they tried to bone me last year real hard. i got a raise, but it was quite late`
`18:43.11`	`Ashamed`	`the most I have had in the last 2 years`
`18:43.15`	`JManV\|Work`	`and there's zero chance i'll get a raise this year`
`18:43.17`	`montagg`	`It meant he didnt have to take a job if hr didn't want to. And he was a much happier guy because of it.`
`18:43.28`	`Ashamed`	`i am in the same boat jman`
`18:43.33`	`Ashamed`	`i mgith be getting a sub job in auguest`
`18:43.34`	`AlphA_VsT`	`YAY! i think i solved my overlying issues lol`
`18:43.37`	`Ashamed`	`but its kinda just in the air`
`18:43.39`	`Ashamed`	`so i am not sure`
`18:43.44`	`Ashamed`	`if i get that job i will double my salery`
`18:43.47`	`montagg`	`JManV\|Work: Then seriously, gtfo. Save up a grand and hit the street.`
`18:43.49`	`Ashamed`	`but then i will be contracted for 3 years`
`18:43.53`	`JManV\|Work`	`i actually have a pretty decent amount saved up`
`18:43.54`	`Ashamed`	`and need to find a new job at the end of the contract`
`18:44.02`	`JManV\|Work`	`i have a few grand`
`18:44.17`	`Ashamed`	`but i will make twice the amount i am :)`
`18:44.23`	`Ashamed`	`but i am kinda just waiting until auguest`
`18:44.29`	`JManV\|Work`	`i think i have $4k including a $1k emergency fund`
`18:44.39`	`Ashamed`	`very nice`
`18:44.43`	`JManV\|Work`	`i've actually been thinking about moving to a warmer climate lately`
`18:44.45`	`Ashamed`	`i am hoping to have that by the end of this year`
`18:44.50`	`Ashamed`	`come to co :)`
`18:45.01`	`Ashamed`	`we can medicate !`
`18:45.16`	`Ashamed`	`everyone that moves to colorado loves it`
`18:45.18`	Mephs`afk	`i wonder if its possible to send actor messages to a portrait...`
`18:45.24`	Mephs`afk	`and yeah CO is awesome.`
`18:45.33`	`montagg`	`I'm working on getting a game industry job. I saved up some money, now I'm doing unemployment, side gigs, and developing my own stuff for resumes. Lots of professional development and network, and so much more satisfying than my old gig.`
`18:45.37`	`Ashamed`	`mephs you live in co?`
`18:45.42`	`Mephs`	`yeah`
`18:45.46`	`Mephs`	`for now`
`18:45.46`	`Ashamed`	`where ?`
`18:45.51`	`Mephs`	`might be moving to CA to work at riot`
`18:46.08`	`JManV\|Work`	`anyways, since they boned me last year and made it clear that doing great work and going over an above does not necessarily merit more money... i now have no reason to do such things`
`18:46.09`	`montagg`	`Mephs: Really? Just had a great game night with some of those guys. I love them.`
`18:46.13`	`Mephs`	`northern co, larimer`
`18:46.19`	`Mephs`	`yah they seem like cool people`
`18:46.26`	`Ashamed`	`i live in longmont > close to boulder`
`18:46.27`	`Ashamed`	`i work at IBM`
`18:46.31`	`montagg`	`They're all awesome. I totally want to work there.`
`18:46.33`	`Ashamed`	`between longmont and boulder`
`18:46.36`	`Mephs`	`going to interview there wednesday`
`18:46.42`	`Ashamed`	`at ibm?`
`18:46.45`	`Mephs`	`no riot games`
`18:46.47`	`montagg`	`Mephs: Awesome! Hope you get it.`
`18:46.48`	`JManV\|Work`	`but i prefer doing great to just getting by`
`18:46.50`	`Ashamed`	`oh i was like wtf`
`18:46.52`	`Mephs`	`yah i do too`
`18:46.58`	`JManV\|Work`	`but i need to feel like my work is valued`
`18:47.14`	`Mephs`	`oh yah at ibm?`
`18:47.15`	`Mephs`	`lol`
`18:47.24`	`Mephs`	`i'd love to work there too, we have so much IT here`
`18:47.29`	`QueenGambit`	`Mephs, I have no doubt you will get an opportunity at Riot. You created a beautiful arena map on sc2`
`18:47.40`	`Ashamed`	`ibm sucks now`
`18:47.41`	`Ashamed`	`:(`
`18:47.42`	`Ashamed`	`they are all contractors`
`18:47.44`	`montagg`	`JManV\|Work: Depends on your definition of "great," of course. I'm just getting by, but I'm moving forward in a direction I want to go, so I'm completely happy with it.`
`18:47.55`	`Mephs`	`i'm 90% sure they plan on hiring me on, they're flying me out and i've been in the interview process for like 3 months now lol`
`18:47.57`	`Ashamed`	`and you end up doing the same job as IBMers for half the pay`
`18:48.14`	`montagg`	`Of course, I'm used to the entertainment industry, where you naturally flounder for a bit before you settle, so I'm used to it.`
`18:48.33`	`Mephs`	`ashamed: really? huh.`
`18:48.35`	`montagg`	`Mephs: Sweeeet. What position are you looking at?`
`18:48.47`	`QueenGambit`	`When you get there, I want you to do me a favor. Convince them to stop making more heroes and start creating different map terrain. Im tired of Treeline.`
`18:48.49`	`Mephs`	`game design to start out, zileas wants me to move into a tech design role at some point though`
`18:49.05`	`Mephs`	`QG: they are, but the new map is taking a long time to put up`
`18:49.06`	`QueenGambit`	`the only new heroes i should be seeing on LoL is your Smashcraft units`
`18:49.13`	`Mephs`	`and i think they're waiting till they finisht he gfx engine revamp`
`18:49.21`	`Mephs`	`lol`
`18:49.21`	`Ashamed`	`yeah.. and right now i am kinda sitting on a ibm contract.. that may happen in may. But i am doing alot of IBM's infrastructure work.. and they don't even employee me it kinda sucks`
`18:49.25`	`QueenGambit`	`oh okay great`
`18:49.29`	`Ashamed`	`or auguest*`
`18:49.30`	`Ashamed`	`not may`
`18:49.50`	`SouLCarveR`	`speaking of riot`
`18:49.52`	`Mephs`	`supposedly late hours = free dinner & LAN party`
`18:49.54`	`SouLCarveR`	`who wants to play some LOL`
`18:50.01`	`Mephs`	`i'm down`
`18:50.08`	`Mephs`	`add me: The Mephs`
`18:50.13`	`SouLCarveR`	`kk`
`18:50.20`	`montagg`	`SouLCarveR: I can't now, but hit me up anytime. Summoner name is Montzag. I totally suck.`
`18:51.02`	`Ashamed`	`mephs what you doing in co right now?? doing any it work?`
`18:51.07`	`Mephs`	`not atm no`
`18:51.13`	`Mephs`	`finished my last contract job`
`18:51.48`	`SouLCarveR`	`anybody else want in on some LOL`
`18:51.57`	`Ashamed`	`NOU`
`18:52.08`	`Mephs`	`oh yea so`
`18:52.09`	`Ashamed`	`what else does riot make ?`
`18:52.13`	`Mephs`	`can i get a portrait model as an actor?`
`18:52.34`	`Mephs`	`I want to send an actor msg "anim pause" to a portrait`
`18:52.37`	`QueenGambit`	`too many champions >.<`
`18:53.21`	`montagg`	`QueenGambit: I agree. Can't wait for them to ship more maps.`
`18:54.12`	`montagg`	`They're in a very strong growth mode, though, so things shoulf start happrning soon.`
`18:54.28`	`Mephs`	`they're also hiring a lot of positions`
`18:54.34`	`Mephs`	`so i think right now champions are easy to add in`
`18:54.40`	`Mephs`	`but they have seperate teams working on the rest`
`18:55.28`	`montagg`	`Mephs: They have a great system where they crowd source champion design to employees, so they get and test tons of ideas.`
`18:56.02`	`montagg`	`Mephs: I'm sure we'll see a new champ named Mephs soon when you get youe gig. ;)`
`18:56.03`	`Mephs`	`yah`
`18:56.07`	`Mephs`	`lol`
`18:56.12`	`Mephs`	`if they let me design a champ?`
`18:56.22`	`Ashamed`	`oh shiz`
`18:56.22`	`Mephs`	`totally giving them either Revenant or Suzura from my smashcraft spreadsheet`
`18:56.34`	`montagg`	`Doooo it.`
`18:56.45`	`Mephs`	`so smash hero makes a cameo in LOL!`
`18:57.24`	`montagg`	`Not sure what the actual process is, but I'm sure they take any good idea they can. It's a new product to sell after all.`
`19:00.38`	`montagg`	`Mephs: Is your map called Smashcraft?`
`19:02.51`	`QueenGambit`	`it is`
`19:03.09`	`montagg`	`Sweet. Will do a search and check it out.`
`19:03.44`	`QueenGambit`	`are they hiring any customer service position? I totally be interested working there too!`
`19:04.10`	`montagg`	`QueenGambit: Yeah, check out the site. Hiring for lots of stuff.`
`19:04.21`	`QueenGambit`	`heck yah brb`
`19:08.24`	`montagg`	`That would be so cool if we all got jobs at Riot. We'll all go out to Santa Monica, watch the sun set over the ocean, and get trashed to celebrate.`
`19:09.18`	`Ashamed`	`oh shiz`
`19:09.26`	`Ashamed`	`mapsters all at riot`
`19:09.45`	`montagg`	`Hellz yeah!`
`19:10.20`	`JManV\|Work`	`i don't know, i think i'd rather actually make money that work for a gaming company :P`
`19:10.30`	`QueenGambit`	`lol jman`
`19:11.28`	`montagg`	`JManV\|Work: Niice.`
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`19:16.06`	`Stewox`	`~seen programmer`
`19:16.14`	`purl`	`programmer <52e9ed5b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.82.233.237.91> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 181d 39m 38s ago, saying: 'without a typo!'.`
`19:16.41`	`montagg`	`Greetings programs!`
`19:16.51`	`Stewox`	`his advanced AI mod , was it completed or any progress ?`
`19:20.17`	`Mephs`	`jman: i would say that normally but the figures they gave me are far from bad paying`
`19:20.57`	`depthsofchaos`	`btw fixed my sc2 if anyone had same crashing problem i can tell the solutions :o`
`19:21.04`	`Stewox`	`~seen Mtops`
`19:21.07`	`purl`	`mtops <5f242d72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.95.36.45.114> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 26d 8h 12m 40s ago, saying: 'it's more human like'.`
`19:21.20`	`JManV\|Work`	`yeah, i mostly jest`
`19:21.20`	`Stewox`	`mtops = progammer ?`
`19:21.36`	`JManV\|Work`	`i would probably get paid more than i get paid now`
`19:22.06`	`JManV\|Work`	`but it can be hard to break the $100k barrier in game programming, while in other industries its quite easy`
`19:22.30`	`montagg`	`JManV\|Work: Very true. More competitive. But if you're really good, you never know.`
`19:22.33`	`Mephs`	`100k in programming is really hard to come by too`
`19:22.39`	`Mephs`	`in any kind of programming`
`19:22.47`	`montagg`	`Also, business models are changing, so that might not be true forever.`
`19:23.02`	`Ashamed`	`it will be`
`19:23.10`	`Ashamed`	`there will always be someone that can do it cheaper then you :)`
`19:23.37`	`Ashamed`	`its just very easy to find what you want in this field and if you dont want to do it they will find someone else`
`19:23.40`	`montagg`	`Ashamed: But for experience, or a lead? I'd pay a programmer anything they wanted if they were wizards.`
`19:23.49`	`Ashamed`	`nope`
`19:23.55`	`Ashamed`	`someone else is just as good as them`
`19:24.11`	`JManV\|Work`	`programmers are investments`
`19:24.22`	`Ashamed`	`but not to go over a certain margin`
`19:24.27`	`Ashamed`	`you can just find another one`
`19:24.36`	`montagg`	`But, not everyone is easy to work with, or gets what you're trying to do. I think if you're a company focused on quality, you're fine paying for what you want.`
`19:24.53`	`montagg`	`But you're right, it's VERY rare,`
`19:24.59`	`Ashamed`	`but going over 100k is going to be hard ><`
`19:25.06`	`montagg`	`Yeah, agreed. Should`
`19:25.26`	`montagg`	`^shouldnt be. Gotta fix that.`
`19:25.46`	`Ashamed`	`you would have a better chance of starting in the feild and moving to a project manager or something for a big project.`
`19:28.17`	`montagg`	`Ashamed: Definitely true now, but I think as games become more widespread, experience, speed, and personality will become much more valuable, especially as business models mature and more games are more profitable.`
`19:28.43`	`montagg`	`A lot of assumptions there, but that's my gut feeling.`
`19:28.56`	`Ashamed`	`i honestly see games becoming easier to make`
`19:29.06`	`Ashamed`	`and the requirement of programmers not as big`
`19:29.15`	`Ashamed`	`since we have programs that can do the majority of the stuff for us now`
`19:29.21`	`Ashamed`	`i mean you still need your lead programmers obv`
`19:29.27`	`Ashamed`	`but its much easier to learn how to program`
`19:29.48`	`montagg`	`Exactly. Which means quality becomes more important. Or if you want more control over the final product, you'll need a talented programmer.`
`19:30.05`	`Ashamed`	`yeah mby companies focusing on just a few talents`
`19:30.11`	`Ashamed`	`and then buidling a team based on them`
`19:30.19`	`Ashamed`	`i could see it happening.`
`19:30.24`	`montagg`	`Maybe. I could see that.`
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`19:31.39`	`montagg`	`Apple, for example, has a core team that moves between projects. So does Blizzard. Means the team is extra experienced, top quality guys. Very valuable to the company as a result.`
`19:36.39`	`depthsofchaos`	`not what we see in the end results :p`
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`19:54.09`	`Demonette`	`Hi...`
`19:54.19`	`JManV\|Work`	`normal programmers are definitely more replaceable than lead programmers`
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`19:54.56`	`JManV\|Work`	`in my company, i'm the only developer. i would be very costly to replace`
`19:55.26`	`JManV\|Work`	`i'm also not sure they could get someone of my calibur for what they pay me`
`19:55.35`	`JManV\|Work`	`but maybe`
`19:56.10`	`JManV\|Work`	`even if they got him for less, there'd be months of inefficiencies that would cost the company a lot of money`
`19:57.02`	`depthsofchaos`	`time to blackmail them :p`
`19:57.22`	`JManV\|Work`	`blackmail induces spite`
`19:57.54`	`JManV\|Work`	`when you get emotions involved, they might make a decision that's not in their financial best interests`
`19:58.25`	`JManV\|Work`	`gotta go to a meeting`
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`20:08.05`	`Ashamed`	`6 more hours left :(`
`20:13.16`	`Stewox`	`Jademussreg`
`20:14.21`	`Stewox`	`will you test this out for me , u said it was a good idea too keep a fully prepared system for manual moding, here it is http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/full-sc2-datascript-extract-1-3/`
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`20:19.02`	`AlphA_VsT`	`GRRRR`
`20:19.33`	`JManV\|Work`	`i agree`
`20:20.22`	`JademusSreg`	`I shall be busy for a while longer. Could you be more specific with regards to what you would like me to test?`
`20:24.12`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i got to decide on some camera shit :(`
`20:24.35`	`JManV\|Work`	`shit and cameras should never go together`
`20:25.08`	`JManV\|Work`	`not a good combo`
`20:25.24`	`AlphA_VsT`	`well the thing is my new models are high and will block sight`
`20:25.25`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:P`
`20:25.41`	`AlphA_VsT`	`so i think i will have to rotate the camera`
`20:26.05`	`JManV\|Work`	`then take the marijuana away from your models, and they will come down eventually`
`20:26.57`	`AlphA_VsT`	`uh huh`
`20:27.09`	`montagg`	`It's never a good idea to give your camera equipment a green card.`
`20:27.41`	`JManV\|Work`	`i'm not helping much, am i?`
`20:28.02`	`montagg`	`=c)`
`20:28.31`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`20:28.32`	`AlphA_VsT`	`no`
`20:29.08`	`AlphA_VsT`	`i am going to have to rotate the camera for the selected unit but then what if they have more than 1 selected`
`20:29.11`	`AlphA_VsT`	`hmmm`
`20:29.16`	`AlphA_VsT`	`http://i.imgur.com/VN6Dm.png what i got so far`
`20:29.18`	`AlphA_VsT`	`0.o`
`20:30.09`	`JManV\|Work`	`so the problem is... ?`
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`20:42.54`	`FockeWulf`	`Howdy all, I've got a question as I am completely stumped on this one. What validator will detect whether or not a unit is loaded into a transport and how do I set it up?`
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`20:45.11`	`FockeWulf`	`[13:42] <FockeWulf> Howdy all, I've got a question as I am completely stumped on this one. What validator will detect whether or not a unit is loaded into a transport and how do I set it up?`
`20:46.48`	`montagg`	`FockeWulf: Good question. Have to do that myself in a bit, would be curious what the answer is.`
`20:50.28`	`Ashamed`	`erg 5 more hours`
`20:54.37`	`AlphA_VsT`	`so what do you think so far? http://i.imgur.com/VN6Dm.png`
`20:54.39`	`JManV\|Work`	`30 minutes`
`20:55.21`	`JManV\|Work`	`my modeller stopped making models for me :(`
`20:56.08`	`JManV\|Work`	`pfft... real jobs...`
`20:56.12`	`Stewox`	`jademussreg`
`20:56.14`	`Stewox`	`the system`
`20:56.16`	`Stewox`	`whatever`
`20:56.19`	`Stewox`	`look at it`
`20:56.20`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`20:56.36`	`Stewox`	`open the readme and check if something's wrong for example`
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`20:56.48`	`JademusSreg`	`When I'm done preparing dinner, I'l check it out.`
`20:58.17`	`Stewox`	`it's late here an im going to sleep in an hour so ... i wish somebody to test realtime so i can fix anything before i go , tnx`
`20:58.24`	`Stewox`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/full-sc2-datascript-extract-1-3/`
`20:58.50`	`Stewox`	`(you have you're PC in the kitchen ?)`
`20:59.03`	`JManV\|Work`	`i don't want to start something in my last 30 minutes :(`
`20:59.48`	`FockeWulf`	`[13:42] <FockeWulf> Howdy all, I've got a question as I am completely stumped on this one. What validator will detect whether or not a unit is loaded into a transport and how do I set it up?`
`20:59.53`	`JManV\|Work`	`i'm suprised i /dont/ have a PC in my kitchen`
`21:00.14`	`JManV\|Work`	`but i do have my mini laptop i sometimes reference for recipes`
`21:00.29`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`21:00.35`	`JManV\|Work`	`i need like a food/water resistant touch-screen`
`21:00.37`	`Ashamed`	`is it an asus ?`
`21:00.42`	`JManV\|Work`	`of course!`
`21:00.45`	`Ashamed`	`i want to get asus small computer`
`21:00.50`	`Ashamed`	`i was checking them out and they are nice`
`21:00.52`	`Ashamed`	`for the price`
`21:00.58`	`JManV\|Work`	`yeah, i like mine a lot`
`21:00.59`	`Ashamed`	`does exactly what a laptop needs to do`
`21:01.09`	`Ashamed`	`like i dont need a laptop that can play sc2`
`21:01.13`	`Ashamed`	`i have my desktop for that`
`21:01.16`	`JManV\|Work`	`but it's fallen into misuse since the keyboard was destroyed by my cat`
`21:01.24`	`Ashamed`	`:(`
`21:01.29`	`Ashamed`	`you prob can fix that for cheap`
`21:01.31`	`Ashamed`	`50 bucks`
`21:01.35`	`Ashamed`	`to get a new keyboard map`
`21:01.38`	`JManV\|Work`	`yeah, i got a replacement but it didn't fit right`
`21:01.44`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`21:01.45`	`JManV\|Work`	`could find many other replacements online`
`21:01.54`	`JManV\|Work`	`it was cheap, llike 20-25`
`21:02.23`	`JManV\|Work`	`now i want a tablet tho :P`
`21:02.34`	`Ashamed`	`one of the new windows ?`
`21:02.42`	`JManV\|Work`	`definitely not an ipad`
`21:02.43`	`Ashamed`	`your not talking about an ipad right`
`21:02.44`	`Ashamed`	`OK`
`21:02.45`	`Ashamed`	`good`
`21:02.48`	`JManV\|Work`	`no way`
`21:02.54`	`Ashamed`	`then go for it :)`
`21:03.03`	`Ashamed`	`if you said ipad i was going to have to have a talk to you lol`
`21:03.10`	`Ashamed`	`but i figured you were not talking about one`
`21:03.20`	`JManV\|Work`	`although, i think tablets will be more useful when internet is more affordable for them`
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`21:03.26`	`JManV\|Work`	`and they themselves are more affordable`
`21:03.28`	`hakowy`	`hello`
`21:03.31`	`hakowy`	`anyone from US here?`
`21:03.32`	`Ashamed`	`they are not too bad now`
`21:03.37`	`Ashamed`	`like 30-45 bucks a month`
`21:04.00`	`JManV\|Work`	`they're usually hella throttled tho`
`21:04.00`	`Ashamed`	`samsung makes a good one i think`
`21:04.04`	`JManV\|Work`	`and that does add`
`21:04.14`	`JManV\|Work`	`especially when you have a cell phone with a data plan too`
`21:04.28`	`JManV\|Work`	`asus makes one now and it looks hot`
`21:04.32`	`FockeWulf`	`aha found it!`
`21:04.33`	`JManV\|Work`	`but it's like a grand`
`21:04.36`	`hakowy`	`anyone from USA?`
`21:04.38`	`Ashamed`	`oh really`
`21:04.40`	`FockeWulf`	`if a unit is in a transport it becomes "hidden"`
`21:04.42`	`Ashamed`	`WTF`
`21:04.49`	`FockeWulf`	`I'm from the USA`
`21:05.00`	`JManV\|Work`	`as am i`
`21:05.04`	`hakowy`	`FOckeWulf can you search a key "impossible" in maps`
`21:05.05`	`Ashamed`	`asus slate`
`21:05.14`	`JManV\|Work`	`that's the one`
`21:05.19`	`hakowy`	`and can you tell what maps will be found?`
`21:05.20`	`JManV\|Work`	`comes with a pen, keyboard, and case`
`21:05.30`	`JManV\|Work`	`sexy sexy`
`21:05.32`	`hakowy`	`i'm old sc1 player and was fan with impossible maps, cant find on EU any of them`
`21:05.39`	`Ashamed`	`it has liek a stand too :)`
`21:05.40`	`JManV\|Work`	`i wanna dip my balls in it`
`21:06.01`	`FockeWulf`	`Hakowy can you discribe your question in greater detail?`
`21:06.16`	`FockeWulf`	`oh wait you mean on USA?`
`21:06.19`	`Ashamed`	`it has an i5 in it`
`21:06.23`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`21:06.23`	`Ashamed`	`its not a tablet`
`21:06.27`	`Ashamed`	`thats why its 1000 dollars`
`21:06.28`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`21:06.31`	`Ashamed`	`its a pc :)`
`21:06.39`	`JManV\|Work`	`it's still a tablet`
`21:06.43`	`hakowy`	`in "Search all custom games" in join menu, write "impossible" and tell me what you will find or get printscreen i will be thankfull!`
`21:06.56`	`Ashamed`	`i know i was just saying`
`21:07.05`	`JManV\|Work`	`its definitely faster than a cell phone :P`
`21:07.05`	`Ashamed`	`but i do think tis over priced`
`21:07.12`	`JManV\|Work`	`yeah, its new`
`21:07.16`	`Ashamed`	`i can have up to 4gb`
`21:07.20`	`Ashamed`	`the reason its so much is solid state`
`21:07.28`	`Ashamed`	`and they are using intel`
`21:07.32`	`Ashamed`	`so thats even more`
`21:07.51`	`JManV\|Work`	`yeah, that's not an actual SSD drive`
`21:07.52`	`JManV\|Work`	`its just a tiny little chip`
`21:07.57`	`Ashamed`	`but it weighs 2.5 pounds`
`21:08.04`	`JManV\|Work`	`still, i want`
`21:08.19`	`Ashamed`	`what connection they use of it ?`
`21:08.19`	`Ashamed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:08.23`	`Ashamed`	`thats what it said on their specs`
`21:08.29`	`Ashamed`	`thats why i said solid state`
`21:08.35`	`JManV\|Work`	`yeah`
`21:08.44`	`Ashamed`	`i just got a sniper solid state`
`21:08.44`	`JManV\|Work`	`no, but i mean that's not like a 2.5" drive`
`21:08.47`	`hakowy`	`FockeWulf you are playing on US servers, right?`
`21:08.51`	`JManV\|Work`	`it wouldn't fit`
`21:08.52`	`Ashamed`	`read 375 right 350 :)`
`21:09.13`	`JManV\|Work`	`it's prolly just some tiny integrated chip`
`21:09.14`	`Ashamed`	`write*`
`21:09.17`	`Ashamed`	`i dunno why i said right`
`21:09.22`	`FockeWulf`	`yes i am hakowy`
`21:09.23`	`Ashamed`	`yeah it seems like it`
`21:09.35`	`JManV\|Work`	`= more $`
`21:09.41`	`Ashamed`	`its nice`
`21:09.46`	`hakowy`	`so can you do it what i wrote , and maybe send printscreen?`
`21:09.48`	`Ashamed`	`but i do not like how they are competing with apple`
`21:10.02`	`Ashamed`	`i was hoping the windows tablets would set their own market`
`21:10.04`	`JManV\|Work`	`either wya, as the prices start dropping`
`21:10.11`	`Ashamed`	`but it looks like they are not`
`21:10.11`	`JManV\|Work`	`i want`
`21:10.30`	`JManV\|Work`	`well its windows`
`21:10.33`	`JManV\|Work`	`so there's that`
`21:10.42`	`JManV\|Work`	`also it seems more full featured`
`21:10.46`	`JManV\|Work`	`and actually powerful`
`21:10.48`	`Ashamed`	`yeah it is a pc`
`21:11.03`	`Ashamed`	`but still i was expecting tablets to be like 200 dollars cheaper then the ipad`
`21:11.06`	`Ashamed`	`and still be better`
`21:11.26`	`JManV\|Work`	`it will come`
`21:11.36`	`Ashamed`	`they did have the tablets in 2004 and they were cheaper then the ipad`
`21:11.37`	`JManV\|Work`	`that SSD tho`
`21:11.44`	`Ashamed`	`yeah its SSD :(`
`21:11.52`	`JManV\|Work`	`well, that's a power user tablet, it really is`
`21:11.56`	`Ashamed`	`i spent 130 on my 60gb ><`
`21:13.09`	`JManV\|Work`	`anyways, i'm out`
`21:13.28`	`Ashamed`	`you get out`
`21:20.53`	`PsypherLocke`	`hey guys, quick question`
`21:21.10`	`PsypherLocke`	`is there a way to get stuff to open in tabs in the data editor?`
`21:21.22`	`PsypherLocke`	`meaning not replacing the right side as soon as i click a data object`
`21:22.17`	`Ashamed`	`i would like this too :)`
`21:22.23`	`Ashamed`	`but i do not know of a way`
`21:22.31`	`PsypherLocke`	`I couldn't find one`
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`21:22.45`	`PsypherLocke`	`I think the actor types have tabs, but can't open multiple at once`
`21:22.56`	`PsypherLocke`	`err maybe unit types i mean`
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`21:23.37`	`tordy`	`wassup dudes`
`21:23.37`	`tordy`	`where you`
`21:23.38`	`tordy`	`at`
`21:24.32`	`Demonette`	`hi tordy`
`21:26.27`	`Ashamed`	`hey`
`21:26.30`	`tordy`	`what did i miss since last week`
`21:26.35`	`Ashamed`	`alot`
`21:26.41`	`tordy`	`like`
`21:26.50`	`Ashamed`	`i don't think we can catch you up`
`21:26.54`	`Ashamed`	`it may be too late for you`
`21:27.13`	`Ashamed`	`miss as in what our community has occomplished ?`
`21:27.22`	`Ashamed`	`in the last week`
`21:27.30`	`tordy`	`damn`
`21:27.36`	`tordy`	`cant wait to catch up`
`21:27.42`	`Ashamed`	`Jades script = going good`
`21:27.50`	`tordy`	`what his script about`
`21:27.57`	`Ashamed`	`its a wasd script`
`21:28.03`	`Ashamed`	`to try to cut lag out`
`21:28.10`	`tordy`	`how good is it`
`21:28.18`	`Ashamed`	`i think it detects every key button`
`21:28.23`	`Ashamed`	`and every mouse movement`
`21:28.31`	`Ashamed`	`and i tested it with 3 people and it didn't feel too bad`
`21:28.34`	`tordy`	`link to it's progress?`
`21:28.41`	`Ashamed`	`let me try to find it`
`21:29.50`	`Ashamed`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/galaxy-scripting-and-trigger-lib/19451-input-a-script-to-capture-key-and-mouse-input/#p13`
`21:30.40`	`AlphA_VsT`	`http://i.imgur.com/kVYhL.png 0.o`
`21:34.39`	`Ashamed`	`alpha what that be?`
`21:36.25`	`AlphA_VsT`	`sorta a template`
`21:36.32`	`AlphA_VsT`	`but im creating shit for my map`
`21:36.44`	`hakowy`	`whats wrong when i try publish a map it says: "The published name ' .... ' is not available [Unknown]`
`21:36.52`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its goign to be a randomly generated city :P`
`21:36.54`	`AlphA_VsT`	`now`
`21:38.17`	`hakowy`	`"document doesn't have a name set" whats that, why i cant publish a map?`
`21:39.18`	`AlphA_VsT`	`you didnt name it`
`21:39.20`	`AlphA_VsT`	`0.o`
`21:39.39`	`hakowy`	`where to name it?`
`21:39.58`	`hakowy`	`this map is old , from last year`
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`21:41.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Back.`
`21:41.23`	`hakowy`	`i named it`
`21:41.27`	`hakowy`	`whats wrong????`
`21:42.08`	`hakowy`	`ok nvm`
`21:42.09`	`AlphA_VsT`	`name already taken?`
`21:42.11`	`hakowy`	`it was some bug`
`21:42.57`	`hakowy`	`it is possible to edit locked maps(like it was in wc3 with using some tool) ?`
`21:43.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Sure. What is your purpose?`
`21:44.10`	`hakowy`	`just to know`
`21:44.52`	`hakowy`	`hm i cant publish map it says in info "Transmitting Visual File" and status Failed on 65%`
`21:47.16`	`hakowy`	`ok it completed had to set locales, strange..`
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`21:58.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Stew. Some feedback on your readme file: Spelling errors should be corrected, editorializations reduced or removed entirely, would benefit from a bit better organization. Factually, all the information is golden, quite useful.`
`21:58.53`	`JademusSreg`	`However, it reads like a schizophrenic is shouting everything at me.`
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`22:18.19`	`Rodrigo`	`damn`
`22:18.25`	`Rodrigo`	`does anyone know other way to localize a map?`
`22:18.34`	`Rodrigo`	`because the localizer on the sc2mapster is bugged`
`22:18.52`	`Ashamed`	`i love having my own ftp server :) doesn't beat being able to stream my movies from home to work`
`22:25.25`	`Rodrigo`	`dropbox does that`
`22:25.40`	`Rodrigo`	`and u can get the files on ur ipod`
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`22:27.24`	`Ashamed`	`i do it all with my own server :)`
`22:27.27`	`Ashamed`	`i like it better`
`22:28.10`	`JademusSreg`	`I also use dropbox, but have an ftp.`
`22:28.25`	`JademusSreg`	`It's good to have options. =)`
`22:29.12`	`Ashamed`	`what do you use drop box for then?`
`22:29.23`	`montagg`	`Same. Never know what you need.`
`22:29.37`	`montagg`	`Dropbox UI > *`
`22:30.15`	`Ashamed`	`backup?`
`22:33.36`	`tordy`	`usp`
`22:34.52`	`tordy`	`JademusSreg :]`
`22:37.14`	`Ashamed`	`YOU'RE FIRED`
`22:38.11`	`Bounty`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQb_Yx8t_L4`
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`22:43.40`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`22:43.48`	`JademusSreg`	`What's up tordy?`
`22:45.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Ash, I use dropbox for collaborating on projects, mostly.`
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`22:48.21`	`montagg`	`JademusSreg: How many people? I generally found more than 2 with Dropbox to be cumbersome.`
`22:48.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Around 4.`
`22:48.50`	`Ashamed`	`explorer broked`
`22:48.56`	`Ashamed`	`woot`
`22:49.01`	`montagg`	`JademusSreg: All pretty technical people?`
`22:50.15`	`Ashamed`	`my explorer is really broked`
`22:50.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Varies. Some are, some aren't.`
`22:50.35`	`JademusSreg`	`I'ver got no qualms about deleting crap files though.`
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`22:51.43`	`montagg`	`Haha! Nice,`
`22:52.24`	`montagg`	`Very interesting. Any rules you set up beforehand, or any that came to be understood as you used it?`
`22:54.01`	`JademusSreg`	`The latter.`
`22:54.58`	`JademusSreg`	`"Don't upload massive files." "Don't open the file while I'm using it."`
`22:55.11`	`JademusSreg`	`Between irc and dropbox, I've got a decent infrastructure for developing projects with teams.`
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`22:55.22`	`montagg`	`Very cool.`
`22:55.48`	`JademusSreg`	`If I need to move any large files, I can do it via ftp.`
`22:56.01`	`montagg`	`Similar experience using it on a TV show in post-production, although slightly less successful, I think because the team was highly untechnical, except for me and the editor.`
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`22:56.19`	`montagg`	`Gotta get a haircut. Be back!`
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`23:14.58`	`Mephs`	`there a way to screw with a portrait camera on the fly?`
`23:15.05`	`Mephs`	`or is that strictly in the model data?`
`23:15.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Model data only, to my knowledge.`
`23:16.44`	`Mephs`	`wonder if i could use RTT to achieve a similar effect.`
`23:16.55`	`JademusSreg`	`CameraSetChannelOnPortrait (int player, camerainfo c, fixed aspectRatio, int portraitId, int channel); is the closest thing I can find on the subject in the natives.`
`23:16.57`	`Mephs`	`but with my own camera properties`
`23:17.39`	`JademusSreg`	`PortraitSetCamera (int p, string cameraName); is a close second.`
`23:17.51`	`JademusSreg`	`I haven't messed with them, so I can't be certain of their function.`
`23:17.51`	`Mephs`	`the string is probably a model camera`
`23:17.57`	`Mephs`	`so idk about that`
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`23:27.28`	`Motive`	`I wish people`
`23:27.33`	`Motive`	`tested their maps before publishing`
`23:27.34`	`Motive`	`:\|`
`23:27.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Wakka wakka`
`23:27.56`	`Ashamed`	`wh test your map`
`23:27.57`	`JademusSreg`	`Entertain me with your horror stories.`
`23:27.57`	`Stewox`	`what's with this wakaka`
`23:27.59`	`Ashamed`	`that is no fun`
`23:28.28`	`JademusSreg`	`Fozzy Bear says "Wocka wocka wocka" after the punchline to his jokes.`
`23:28.45`	`JademusSreg`	`However, I do not like that spelling, and use "wakka" instead.`
`23:28.58`	`Motive`	`-Mafia- is broke`
`23:28.58`	`Motive`	`:(`
`23:29.47`	`JademusSreg`	`Care to elaborate? =D`
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`23:30.17`	`Motive`	`Worked fine this morning`
`23:30.20`	`Motive`	`he published an update w/o testing`
`23:30.24`	`Motive`	`game doesn't start anymore, trigger error`
`23:30.24`	`Motive`	`derp`
`23:31.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`23:33.22`	`Motive`	`also is battle.net acting weird?`
`23:33.28`	`Motive`	`I'm getting a lot of desyncs`
`23:33.42`	`Motive`	`and there are apparently trolls running around with a lag hack that makes them lag 1 second, normal play, then 1 second again, etc`
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`23:34.16`	`JademusSreg`	`=\`
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`23:36.10`	`AlphA_VsT`	`rawr im alive`
`23:36.33`	`Motive`	`no you're not gtfo`
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`23:37.23`	`AlphA_VsT`	`:(`
`23:38.04`	`AlphA_VsT`	`http://i.imgur.com/6MKmr.png test 3 0.o`
`23:38.30`	`Ashamed`	`i am tired :(`
`23:40.02`	`AlphA_VsT`	`should i redo the taffic light and or the street light?`
`23:43.47`	`Ashamed`	`the street light`
`23:43.54`	`Ashamed`	`the actual light looks like it bends over too much`
`23:43.58`	`Ashamed`	`i would straighten it a bit`
`23:44.21`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah`
`23:44.38`	`Ashamed`	`ssee what i am saying ?`
`23:45.02`	`AlphA_VsT`	`yeah i felt like it was to much i know they are angled a bit though`
`23:45.31`	`Ashamed`	`mby make the traffic light a tad taller`
`23:45.49`	`Ashamed`	`but other then that i do not see anything`
`23:46.19`	`AlphA_VsT`	`Im going to redo the traffic light a bit`
`23:46.31`	`AlphA_VsT`	`its to boxy`
`23:46.32`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`23:51.28`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I think I will enable team colors on buildings :D`
`23:51.46`	`Ashamed`	`oh shiz`
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`23:52.03`	`AlphA_VsT`	`lol`
`23:52.49`	`AlphA_VsT`	`I want to be able to show if a building is safe or not for events`
`23:53.58`	`Ashamed`	`what you making`
`23:55.45`	`AlphA_VsT`	`converting my game to a random generated city`
`23:56.47`	`AlphA_VsT`	`in a world made out of paper that is being attacked by zombies`
`23:59.03`	`Ashamed`	`oh shuz`
`23:59.06`	`Ashamed`	`shiz*`
`23:59.10`	`Ashamed`	`paper mario meets resident evil`
`23:59.12`	`Ashamed`	`i like it`

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