IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20110403

`00:02.08`	`Mexa\|Afk`	`... interesting, when including galaxy files through the editor the relative path is both relative to the map root and the map Base.SC2Data`
`00:02.17`	`Mexa\|Afk`	`Abit confusing too.`
`00:02.34`	`Mexa\|Afk`	`*folder Base.SC2Data`
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`00:16.29`	`UloseTheGame`	`Sixen you in?`
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`00:24.48`	`grim001`	`no one uses chatzilla eh`
`00:33.37`	`Sixen`	`in what`
`00:37.46`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`00:37.52`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`00:38.01`	`JademusSreg`	`His timing is perfect.`
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`00:38.11`	`JademusSreg`	`wun moar dai 6in?`
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`00:57.03`	`Sixen`	`is it just me or is Crabby on sc2mapster forums`
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`00:59.53`	`JademusSreg`	`I see.`
`01:00.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Project TMA.`
`01:00.04`	`JademusSreg`	`Neato.`
`01:02.00`	`JademusSreg`	`Also, oh shit a Crabby.`
`01:05.24`	`JManV`	`wtf with crabby?`
`01:05.43`	`JademusSreg`	`Crabby would make a good pocket warrior.`
`01:05.47`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
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`01:05.53`	`JademusSreg`	`Hi Zoxc.`
`01:05.58`	`JManV`	`indeed`
`01:06.08`	`Jack[RCDF`	`TEAM MICRO ARENAAAAAAAA amirite sixen?`
`01:06.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Well, it's looking pretty neat.`
`01:06.35`	`JademusSreg`	`From that one picture.`
`01:06.41`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Lul`
`01:06.51`	`Zoxc-`	`likes stereoscoping 3D :D`
`01:07.31`	`JademusSreg`	`likes colonoscoping 3D D= Why did I say that?!`
`01:08.26`	`Zoxc-`	`I like how pretty much every picture I've seen tends to overdo the 3D effect`
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`01:09.52`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Xkcd you talking about?`
`01:10.05`	`JademusSreg`	`"Different models have been added for male and female versions of Bear Form. The difference is subtle unless you know where to look."`
`01:11.02`	`Zoxc-`	`nah, haven't seen xkcd, just practicing cross-eyed viewing =P`
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`01:12.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Ulose, you missed Sixen.`
`01:12.40`	`UloseTheGame`	`SIXEN, you there atm?`
`01:12.40`	`JademusSreg`	`By like a minute.`
`01:12.42`	`UloseTheGame`	`D:`
`01:12.44`	`UloseTheGame`	`:D`
`01:12.46`	`UloseTheGame`	`D:`
`01:12.48`	`UloseTheGame`	`crap`
`01:12.50`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`01:12.57`	`UloseTheGame`	`jade`
`01:13.00`	`UloseTheGame`	`if he comes in here`
`01:13.04`	`UloseTheGame`	`redirect him to this thread`
`01:13.16`	`UloseTheGame`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/20309-interviews-with-sc2-mappers/#p2`
`01:13.21`	`JademusSreg`	`I'll let him know.`
`01:13.26`	`UloseTheGame`	`im going to interview mappers this week`
`01:13.37`	`UloseTheGame`	`and I need to speak to him about it`
`01:14.22`	`Sixen`	`?`
`01:14.41`	`Sixen`	`I'm here, I just multitask. So I can't respond the instant you say my name sometimes, >.>`
`01:14.56`	`JademusSreg`	`I was refering to earlier. Haha.`
`01:15.18`	`Sixen`	`It's all good, i'm just sayin' :P`
`01:15.29`	`UloseTheGame`	`Sixen, what do you think of the idea`
`01:15.47`	`Sixen`	`Seems like a cool idea, something i've been wanting to do for a while`
`01:15.58`	`Sixen`	`In fact, we interviewed rrowland a while ago`
`01:17.02`	`JademusSreg`	`"Discipline priests we heard you like shields that heal, so we put shield in your shield so you can heal while you heal."`
`01:17.14`	`JademusSreg`	`Delicious memes.`
`01:17.21`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`01:17.45`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm glad I played enough WoW to appreciate these jokes. =D`
`01:18.20`	`Sixen`	`The SC2 notes were pretty lulzy too.`
`01:18.49`	`Jack[RCDF`	`I've never played WoW and I get most of the WoW patch notes`
`01:18.53`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah. I'd love to see gag patches for April Fools.`
`01:19.27`	`JademusSreg`	`That would motivate me to play melee once a year.`
`01:20.59`	`UloseTheGame`	`www.livestream.com/scdebates`
`01:23.22`	`JademusSreg`	`"Whenever 2 or more warlocks or witches appear in a raid together, the damage dealt by any mages in the raid decreases by 5%. This effect stacks up to 5 times." <3 I used to delight in out dpsing Mages.`
`01:23.28`	`JademusSreg`	`Alright, alright, I'll stop.`
`01:24.01`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Sixen, rexyrex was/is in Oo`
`01:24.50`	`Sixen`	`ah`
`01:25.00`	`Sixen`	`I feel like I know that name from prior to Oo`
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`01:54.40`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Anyone knkw of a mapper called wiseman?`
`01:54.46`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Know*`
`01:57.43`	`UloseTheGame`	`Does anyone want to be interviewed?`
`01:59.10`	`UloseTheGame`	`for the project I have going?`
`01:59.39`	`JademusSreg`	`Who are the big names in which you're interested?`
`02:01.03`	`UloseTheGame`	`I don't know, obviously The Nine should be involved`
`02:01.16`	`UloseTheGame`	`but other than that, i'll take as many as I can get`
`02:02.02`	`JademusSreg`	`I imagine you have some selection criteria.`
`02:02.05`	`Sixen`	`who is the nine?`
`02:02.38`	`UloseTheGame`	`Mephs made a list of the nine best mappers on battle net`
`02:03.01`	`UloseTheGame`	`So I joke around that mephs is first of nine, rodrigo is second of nine`
`02:03.03`	`UloseTheGame`	`etc`
`02:03.15`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`02:04.44`	`UloseTheGame`	`i definitely want sixen for an interview, but i don't know if i should right away, or wait first`
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`02:05.20`	`RyanTM`	`Why are Reapers missiles?`
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`02:05.49`	`JademusSreg`	`???`
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`02:07.33`	`tordy`	`yalled played pokemon tower defense?`
`02:07.37`	`tordy`	`well im done`
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`02:12.55`	`UloseTheGame`	`Bounty`
`02:13.00`	`UloseTheGame`	`Where is bounty...`
`02:14.20`	`UloseTheGame`	`I need a mapper`
`02:14.29`	`UloseTheGame`	`anyone volunteer for interviews`
`02:17.01`	`UloseTheGame`	`why does no one wish to be interviewed?...`
`02:19.08`	`Jack[RCDF`	`I'll be interviewed if you want.`
`02:19.46`	`grim001`	`..`
`02:22.28`	`Jack[RCDF`	`...*`
`02:25.13`	`UloseTheGame`	`okay`
`02:25.16`	`UloseTheGame`	`sorry Jacjk`
`02:25.27`	`UloseTheGame`	`do you still want to be interviewed?`
`02:25.36`	`UloseTheGame`	`cause i'll hit you up right after im done with mephs`
`02:27.18`	`tordy`	`can i see the interview w/ mephs!`
`02:27.25`	`tordy`	`:]`
`02:29.22`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Aight. I haven't released any maps yet though BTW. My claim to fame is being a moderator at SEN, being the catalyst that got galaxywiki.net started, and being a developer of temple siege 2, which isn't released yet.`
`02:30.17`	`Mexa\|Afk`	`Lol, you can overload the natives.galaxy file`
`02:30.31`	`baagel`	`i'm trying to make a spectre use a nuke built from a ghost academy. obviously, the ghost can use the nuke fine. the spectre's nuke button is lit up, but it shows a count of 0 nukes, and cannot use the nuke. how do i fix this?`
`02:30.33`	`Mexa\|Afk`	`I left it empty... it resulted in a syntax error.`
`02:30.52`	`Mexa\|Afk`	`Ingame that is.`
`02:30.58`	`UloseTheGame`	`tord`
`02:31.12`	`UloseTheGame`	`just go to www.livestream.com/scdebates`
`02:31.16`	`UloseTheGame`	`when the stream is up`
`02:31.21`	`UloseTheGame`	`that's the interview`
`02:32.13`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Wait, are you transposing the i terviews?`
`02:34.16`	`UloseTheGame`	`the interviews are up`
`02:41.08`	`Mexa\|Afk`	`urgh, it's getting early`
`02:41.15`	`Mexa\|Afk`	`Nightynight`
`02:42.09`	`tordy`	`oh gosh mephs! :3`
`02:47.33`	`UloseTheGame`	`got him`
`02:47.34`	`UloseTheGame`	`:D`
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`02:51.24`	`UloseTheGame`	`Jack`
`02:51.26`	`UloseTheGame`	`ready?`
`02:51.29`	`UloseTheGame`	`I need your skype`
`02:52.45`	`UloseTheGame`	`Jack, you there?`
`02:53.10`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Got no skype`
`02:53.17`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Got msn aim and gtalk`
`02:53.50`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Text IM interview gogogo`
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`02:54.29`	`tordy`	`ur not jack!`
`02:55.05`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Who me? Yes I am.`
`02:55.53`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Ulosethegame are you there?`
`02:55.54`	`UloseTheGame`	`nah`
`02:55.57`	`UloseTheGame`	`not gonna whoops`
`02:56.01`	`UloseTheGame`	`work`
`02:56.04`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Aww`
`02:56.07`	`UloseTheGame`	`these are videos`
`02:56.13`	`UloseTheGame`	`you can dl it cant you D:?`
`02:56.23`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Video the msn convo. On an ipod :(`
`02:56.33`	`UloseTheGame`	`:\`
`02:56.34`	`Jack[RCDF`	`No computer access atm`
`02:56.37`	`UloseTheGame`	`oh`
`02:56.41`	`UloseTheGame`	`meh`
`02:56.43`	`UloseTheGame`	`okay`
`02:56.52`	`UloseTheGame`	`well, we'll need to wait a day or so`
`02:56.53`	`UloseTheGame`	`don`
`02:57.02`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Lolwhy?`
`02:57.02`	`UloseTheGame`	`dont worry, deadline is next week`
`02:57.13`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Aight.`
`02:57.24`	`UloseTheGame`	`cause unless you can get access in the next hour or two`
`02:57.32`	`UloseTheGame`	`it won't really be possible`
`02:57.48`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Meh.`
`02:58.17`	`Jack[RCDF`	`I work 48 hours, probably won't happen if you won't do it on msn.`
`03:03.26`	`UloseTheGame`	`:\`
`03:03.40`	`UloseTheGame`	`can you video convo on an iphone?`
`03:03.58`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Yeah.`
`03:04.19`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Not today though, cuz I gtg in 30 minutes.`
`03:04.43`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Hey maybe there's a skype app for ipod touch`
`03:04.54`	`UloseTheGame`	`:)`
`03:05.13`	`UloseTheGame`	`Anyone else wanna be interviewed?`
`03:05.42`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Ooh there is`
`03:05.55`	`Jack[RCDF`	`What time will you be on tomorrow?`
`03:06.24`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Also wanna tell me what q's you'll ask so I can prepare some answers?`
`03:06.40`	`UloseTheGame`	`well its supposed to be sporadic`
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`03:06.46`	`UloseTheGame`	`it works better that way`
`03:06.50`	`UloseTheGame`	`hey mepjhs`
`03:07.01`	`UloseTheGame`	`im watching the interview`
`03:07.04`	`UloseTheGame`	`it went well ;)`
`03:07.11`	`Mephs`	`whats the winky shit for`
`03:07.17`	`Mephs`	`winky shit denotes some kind of mischief.`
`03:07.24`	`UloseTheGame`	`hmmm`
`03:07.32`	`UloseTheGame`	`well, not much, other than my voice`
`03:07.36`	`Mephs`	`lol`
`03:07.39`	`UloseTheGame`	`which imo, sucks`
`03:07.52`	`Mephs`	`sixen i made a new map this morning`
`03:08.03`	`Mephs`	`it has a terrible ui and no gameplay value whatsoever, front page plz`
`03:09.08`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Ok, account is JackRCDF. can we test it today, without it being recorded though?`
`03:09.14`	`UloseTheGame`	`sure`
`03:09.21`	`Jack[RCDF`	`One second toilet`
`03:09.35`	`PsypherLocke`	`Man, it's so weird when things work fine when you're editing stuff then all of a sudden they just don't`
`03:09.39`	`PsypherLocke`	`for no apparent reason`
`03:10.34`	`UloseTheGame`	`Does anyone else want an interview?`
`03:10.35`	`Mephs`	`thats because the editor was crafted with gorilla feces and chipmunk tears`
`03:10.45`	`PsypherLocke`	`haha`
`03:11.04`	`UloseTheGame`	`I need to get as many as I can 'fore next week`
`03:11.17`	`UloseTheGame`	`and i cant pass up any opportunities i may not have in the future`
`03:11.18`	`PsypherLocke`	`I just hate tearing down and starting from scratch to find where the minor bug may be`
`03:11.21`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Add me ulose`
`03:11.47`	`PsypherLocke`	`wish they had a snapshot capability like what vmware has`
`03:11.53`	`PsypherLocke`	`ok, it works, snapshot`
`03:11.55`	`UloseTheGame`	`you live in new zealand jack?`
`03:11.59`	`PsypherLocke`	`then when you break it, just roll back`
`03:12.18`	`PsypherLocke`	`although i guess i could set up a local subversion server for that`
`03:17.39`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Yeo`
`03:17.42`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Yep`
`03:17.55`	`Jack[RCDF`	`What timezone i. The states are you?`
`03:18.00`	`Jack[RCDF`	`in*`
`03:18.38`	`Jack[RCDF`	`And how's my mic quality?`
`03:20.03`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Ulosethegame`
`03:20.13`	`UloseTheGame`	`yes?`
`03:20.19`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Read msgs`
`03:20.21`	`UloseTheGame`	`EST`
`03:20.23`	`UloseTheGame`	`good`
`03:20.38`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Aight what's the time right now foe you?`
`03:20.47`	`UloseTheGame`	`11:21`
`03:21.45`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Ohsnap. 8 hours difference. I can be on from about 10:45 onwards :/ or from 4:30 in the afternoon.`
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`03:26.15`	`Mexa`	`Isn't it god damn awesome when you live in a student corridor and some random idiots are stealing food from the public freezer?`
`03:26.21`	`Mexa`	`Sigh...`
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`03:27.25`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Ulosethegame didja get y last message?`
`03:27.36`	`Mexa`	`Only to find my french fries are gone, with traces of them in the microwave...`
`03:27.48`	`Mexa`	`They can all go to hell :(`
`03:29.19`	`JManV`	`hmmm. i'm trying to make a beam that starts above the targets head instead of at the caster`
`03:29.40`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`03:30.43`	`JManV`	`not really sure how to do that`
`03:30.51`	`JManV`	`tried a few things and none have worked`
`03:32.17`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Can you make an effect/behaviour/whatever so that when the unit gets hit by an invisible bolt from the caster, he then creates a bolt ad fires back at the caster?`
`03:34.01`	`JademusSreg`	`Sure.`
`03:34.09`	`Jack[RCDF`	`So the caster targets the target. This applies the behaviour or whatever is appropriate. The behaviour is what then creates the bolt above the head of the target.`
`03:34.27`	`Jack[RCDF`	`BAM problem solved jmanv.`
`03:35.25`	`JManV`	`that's where i am right now, actually`
`03:35.44`	`JManV`	`but stuck at the "behaviors creates the bolt above the head of the target"`
`03:36.24`	`JManV`	`i guess i'm just not sure what to set on the persistant and damage effects`
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`03:37.54`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Ulosethegame is 10:30 or 4:30 pm betterfor you?`
`03:40.34`	`Mexa`	`There... put up a damn note on the freezer explaining that I am angry. Not that I think that is going to help, but I felt like it...`
`03:42.36`	`JManV`	`hmmm.... right now the damage effect isn't even hitting the target.. :(`
`03:50.10`	`JManV`	`dammit i suck at this stuff`
`03:50.41`	`JManV`	`i assume it's a persistant i need, but i can't get it to turn the target of the persistant into the source of the spell, and the source of the persistant to be the target of the sepll`
`03:53.05`	`Mexa`	`data edtior confusion?`
`03:53.08`	`Mexa`	`*editor`
`03:53.11`	`JManV`	`yeah`
`03:53.30`	`JManV`	`trying to make a lighting attack that comes from overhead`
`03:53.37`	`Mexa`	`mm, I don't know that stuff at all :v`
`03:53.41`	`JManV`	`the purifier beam is overkill`
`03:55.11`	`Mexa`	`I need to calm down... going to bed, probably`
`03:55.14`	`Mexa`	`Good night`
`03:55.20`	`JManV`	`night`
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`04:24.26`	`Mephs`	`EYE BEAMS`
`04:24.27`	`Mephs`	`YAHHH`
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`04:59.37`	`Stimpy77_`	`is it possible to invoke the raising of an event?`
`04:59.56`	`Stimpy77_`	`I have a number of triggers that I want to subscribe to the same event.`
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`05:02.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Wha?`
`05:02.55`	`Stimpy77_`	`I declared an event.`
`05:03.10`	`Stimpy77_`	`you know .. right-click, Define New Event`
`05:03.19`	`Stimpy77_`	`how can I raise it?`
`05:03.38`	`Stimpy77_`	`make it "go" ? .. y'know?`
`05:04.45`	`JademusSreg`	`I don't know anything about GUI, only galaxy, and custom events are a GUI construct.`
`05:05.16`	`JademusSreg`	`But maybe you mean how do you use it?`
`05:05.37`	`JademusSreg`	`I guess you would select it as an event in a trigger's event section.`
`05:05.40`	`Stimpy77_`	`ohh they are?`
`05:05.58`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. I thought custom events were just scripts`
`05:06.18`	`Stimpy77_`	`yeah there's no event section in trigger actions`
`05:06.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Everything gets generated into the galaxy map script.`
`05:06.31`	`JademusSreg`	`Events are not trigger actions.`
`05:06.35`	`JademusSreg`	`They are events.`
`05:06.39`	`Stimpy77_`	`yes I know`
`05:06.45`	`Stimpy77_`	`I want to RAISE my custom event`
`05:07.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Well, I have the editor open so I'll take a look.`
`05:08.16`	`Stimpy77_`	`cause otherwise I can declare a function and that works fine but then I'd have to subscribe all additional triggers as function commands rather than as a singularly raised event`
`05:09.24`	`Stimpy77_`	`so in my map (this is my first map btw) I have player units getting destroyed and replaced by enemy units, but in this exchange the player gets X points. So all of this activity I'd like to call one singular event, each time a player unit does this exchange.`
`05:09.49`	`Stimpy77_`	`I'd like to have multiple triggers based on this one event`
`05:10.13`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. just design-wise I like to do it this way. My background is in C# and I see events as delegate declarations ..`
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`05:10.38`	`JademusSreg`	`I see something I do not quite understand, and it intrigues me.`
`05:11.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Nevermind. I cease to be intrigued.`
`05:11.35`	`Stimpy77_`	`rofl`
`05:11.45`	`Stimpy77_`	`you had me on the edge of my seat there`
`05:12.35`	`JademusSreg`	`It's an error; I tried using a custom event declaration, which is just interpreted as a simple function in galaxy, and a trigger using that event.`
`05:12.43`	`JademusSreg`	`Wrong number of parameters. Hahaha`
`05:12.45`	`JademusSreg`	`Silly GUI.`
`05:13.05`	`Stimpy77_`	`so how is it invoked? :(`
`05:13.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Go to Data -> View Script at the top of the trigger editor.`
`05:13.32`	`Stimpy77_`	`methinks one has to write code by hand in order to invoke it ..`
`05:13.47`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. something I haven't done before .. ty`
`05:14.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Not only is it just a silly GUI construct, but a bugged one at that. Wakka wakka`
`05:14.33`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`05:14.55`	`Stimpy77_`	`"write code by hand ... something I haven't done before " << in SC2's editor, hehe .. I've written code by hand in general for a decade or two xD`
`05:16.40`	`Stimpy77_`	`anyone know what the name of the language SC2 script is? Looks like Javascript but simpler.`
`05:17.20`	`Stimpy77_`	`could be simpler only because of the syntax constraints of the editor`
`05:17.43`	`Stimpy77_`	`might as well just be C ..`
`05:18.17`	`Deaod`	`its a castrated version of C`
`05:18.26`	`Stimpy77_`	`kk .. looks it .. ty`
`05:18.50`	`Deaod`	`called galaxy`
`05:19.20`	`Stimpy77_`	`ohh ok .. so galaxy is the language`
`05:19.52`	`Stimpy77_`	`I was confused .. ppl were drawing a line between sc2 editor and galaxy and I was like .. aren't they the same?`
`05:23.11`	`JademusSreg`	`Back.`
`05:23.16`	`JademusSreg`	`It's a common misconception.`
`05:23.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Due to the editor being called Galaxy Editor during beta.`
`05:23.35`	`Stimpy77_`	`ahh`
`05:23.38`	`Stimpy77_`	`I remember that`
`05:23.42`	`JademusSreg`	`That wasn't even the actual name. Haha`
`05:24.05`	`Stimpy77_`	`I still can't register at sc2mapster.com .. still says "Bad Request". I followed the "Site Support" link but it looks like you need to register in order to put in a ticket.`
`05:24.08`	`Stimpy77_`	`what the hey.`
`05:24.09`	`Stimpy77_`	`:(`
`05:24.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah, that's been happening lately.`
`05:24.25`	`Stimpy77_`	`oohh?`
`05:24.30`	`Stimpy77_`	`I thought it was just me.`
`05:24.38`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm permalogged, so I don't have that problem.`
`05:24.57`	`JademusSreg`	`Let me see if I can find any infor about it.`
`05:25.10`	`Stimpy77_`	`I put in the "forgot password" thing too and also got the "Bad Request", so I figured there was some quirky thing going on with my e-mail address in Curse's database`
`05:25.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Worst case scenario, you'll need to solicit one of the honchos like Sixen.`
`05:35.27`	`JademusSreg`	`I can't find anything helpful. Could go to the Curse support site.`
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`05:42.14`	`baagel`	`how do i make a transport load only biological units?`
`05:42.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Change its targetting filters?`
`05:42.43`	`JademusSreg`	`If not that, then its validator.`
`05:42.50`	`JademusSreg`	`Or both.`
`05:42.59`	`baagel`	`ah thanks`
`06:00.15`	`JademusSreg`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/TurnBasedOrderPOC.SC2Map`
`06:00.19`	`Stimpy77_`	`how do I display "{{variable}} plus text" in chat?`
`06:01.46`	`JademusSreg`	`UIDisplayMessage(playergroup players, c_messageAreaChat, IntToText+sometextstuff);`
`06:01.51`	`Stimpy77_`	`ty`
`06:01.59`	`Stimpy77_`	`wait`
`06:02.03`	`Stimpy77_`	`IntToText`
`06:02.05`	`Stimpy77_`	`?`
`06:02.11`	`JademusSreg`	`Sorry. IntToText(intvalue)`
`06:02.20`	`JademusSreg`	`What kind of variable?`
`06:02.28`	`JademusSreg`	`I was justing using int as an example.`
`06:02.49`	`Stimpy77_`	`integer .. so wait change of area .. should I be writing scripts in script?`
`06:03.09`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. and if I'm viewing the script which starts off saying "generated code" is that safe to modify if I were to ever return to the GUI?`
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`06:03.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Whatever you want. I make Custom Script pieces in the trigger editor for small projects.`
`06:03.43`	`Stimpy77_`	`is the script editable?`
`06:03.48`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. first of all`
`06:03.55`	`Motive`	`not directly from the view script page no`
`06:03.58`	`Motive`	`it'll just get reset`
`06:04.04`	`Motive`	`also, btw`
`06:04.04`	`Stimpy77_`	`yeah that's what I was afraid of`
`06:04.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Right click on the bottom left pane in the trigger editor module.`
`06:04.12`	`Motive`	`rawr`
`06:04.13`	`JademusSreg`	`New -> New Custom Script`
`06:04.16`	`Stimpy77_`	`tutorials on this stuff are so scattered, I'm a little lost`
`06:04.35`	`Motive`	`I want to see more of kiwikaki, that guy is really good with toss :(`
`06:04.43`	`JademusSreg`	`All the cool scripters hang out here, like Motive. <3`
`06:04.47`	`Motive`	`;D`
`06:04.48`	`Motive`	`<3`
`06:04.50`	`Stimpy77_`	`and me, soon`
`06:04.52`	`Stimpy77_`	`lol`
`06:04.54`	`JademusSreg`	`I also just happen to be here, but am not cool.`
`06:05.08`	`Motive`	`jademus isnt cool enough for school`
`06:05.14`	`JademusSreg`	`No wai mang`
`06:05.16`	`Stimpy77_`	`script kiddies ftw`
`06:05.27`	`Stimpy77_`	`wait wat? :-/`
`06:05.50`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, once you get used to Custom Script galaxy, you can move on to the advanced methods.`
`06:06.00`	`JademusSreg`	`Like SC2Components file editing.`
`06:06.07`	`Stimpy77_`	`yup k`
`06:06.11`	`Motive`	`I'm debating doing at some point in the future, Galaxy casting`
`06:06.15`	`Motive`	`sounds horribly boring, right?`
`06:06.27`	`JademusSreg`	`Like straming video of galaxy coding?`
`06:06.30`	`JademusSreg`	`STRAMING`
`06:06.32`	`JademusSreg`	`I coined it.`
`06:06.36`	`Motive`	`xD`
`06:06.42`	`Motive`	`Of coding, creating, the whole process in general`
`06:06.43`	`Motive`	`debugging, etc.`
`06:06.57`	`Stimpy77_`	`so ehm .. does custom script get merged into the generated script, e.g. is there scoping or object containment of each script?`
`06:06.57`	`JademusSreg`	`It'll help new scripters, good idea.`
`06:07.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes ish.`
`06:07.09`	`Motive`	`from bugtracker to solution`
`06:07.18`	`Motive`	`but I need more bug reports..`
`06:07.18`	`Motive`	`:(`
`06:07.26`	`JademusSreg`	`Deaod is always finding bugs.`
`06:07.28`	`Stimpy77_`	`?`
`06:07.29`	`JademusSreg`	`It's his knack.`
`06:07.31`	`Motive`	`they're merged, and there is no different scope`
`06:07.35`	`Motive`	`it's all shoved into the global scope`
`06:07.39`	`Stimpy77_`	`ok ty`
`06:07.40`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah, no encapsulation.`
`06:07.42`	`JademusSreg`	`D=-`
`06:07.46`	`Stimpy77_`	`so you can just call anything`
`06:07.49`	`Motive`	`FUCK SCOPE, SCOPE IS FOR NEWBS`
`06:07.52`	`Stimpy77_`	`are there objects in galaxy?`
`06:07.54`	`Motive`	`REAL MEN DONT NEED DYNAMIC ALLOCATION`
`06:07.55`	`Stimpy77_`	`lol`
`06:07.55`	`Motive`	`FUCK YEAH`
`06:07.59`	`Motive`	`objects, yes`
`06:08.03`	`Motive`	`pointers, dynamic allocation? no`
`06:08.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Well, there is a degree of encapsulation, but it is so mild as to not even be worth considering.`
`06:08.13`	`Motive`	`if by objects you mean struct`
`06:08.33`	`JademusSreg`	`static definitions in included scripts.`
`06:08.37`	`Stimpy77_`	`not really .. can you new-up an object that has instance-based functions associated with it as well as its own scope`
`06:08.40`	`JademusSreg`	`Shit, I mentioned it.`
`06:08.42`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway.`
`06:09.02`	`Motive`	`oh so I need to ask`
`06:09.13`	`Stimpy77_`	`sounds like objects are limited to in-game resources like "Player".`
`06:09.16`	`Motive`	`do you have any idea how I could record my mic's audio from my macbook pro, while recording on my PC?`
`06:09.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Player, haha.`
`06:09.20`	`Motive`	`That way I could merge the streams`
`06:09.38`	`JademusSreg`	`Ostensibly to keep the namespace uncluttered, many engine objects are references by int.`
`06:09.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Like player.`
`06:09.50`	`Motive`	`typedef player int; // same damn thing`
`06:09.53`	`Motive`	`1 == player 1`
`06:09.54`	`Motive`	`2 == player 2`
`06:09.55`	`Motive`	`etc`
`06:09.57`	`Stimpy77_`	`poor man's pointer.`
`06:09.58`	`JademusSreg`	`Exactly.`
`06:10.09`	`Motive`	`I wouldn't call it a pointer, I'd call it... an abstraction`
`06:10.15`	`Stimpy77_`	`fine`
`06:10.18`	`JademusSreg`	`Hey, got an MPQ Editor?`
`06:10.24`	`Motive`	`I do`
`06:10.38`	`JademusSreg`	`Time to extract the API, Stimp.`
`06:10.53`	`Motive`	`I'll do it for him and put it up :P`
`06:10.54`	`Stimpy77_`	`you telling me to do my homework or are you telling me you're afk'ing?`
`06:10.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Or have someone kindly package it for you.`
`06:11.04`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`06:11.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Naw, I tell everyone to extract the main galaxy files.`
`06:11.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Even GUI users, on occasion.`
`06:11.51`	`JademusSreg`	`They don't like that.`
`06:11.58`	`Deaod`	`of course they dont.`
`06:12.05`	`JademusSreg`	`But I will be afk for a few minutes.`
`06:12.07`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`06:12.09`	`Deaod`	`theyd have to actually put in some effort`
`06:12.18`	`Motive`	`http://cortexrp.com/starcraft/natives.galaxy`
`06:12.22`	`Motive`	`Thar you go`
`06:12.23`	`Motive`	`:)`
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`06:18.17`	`Motive`	`Anyone know a good, preferably free screencasting program?`
`06:19.48`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Camtasia studio but it sucks`
`06:19.55`	`Jack[RCDF`	`I mean camstudio`
`06:20.03`	`Motive`	`Sucks how?`
`06:20.17`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Lemme go find that topic ay sen, one second`
`06:20.22`	`Motive`	`I'm looking to make some kind of first cast and see how it goes, so I don't really want to spend anything`
`06:20.27`	`JademusSreg`	`Back.`
`06:20.36`	`Motive`	`But at the same time I want something good enough to make a decent grab of my screen in HD`
`06:21.01`	`JademusSreg`	`I use fraps, on those rare occasions.`
`06:21.10`	`Motive`	`Fraps is limited to 30 seconds though :/`
`06:21.14`	`Motive`	`On the trial`
`06:21.17`	`JademusSreg`	`The trial is.`
`06:21.32`	`Deaod`	`its not too hard finding an unlocked version.`
`06:21.46`	`Motive`	`Yeah I'd prefer to not pay $37 just to try out a cast`
`06:21.46`	`JademusSreg`	`I will not elaborate, but I bypassed the trial, so to speak.`
`06:21.46`	`Motive`	`xD`
`06:22.33`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyone have a link to grim's galaxy highlighter and autocomplete for notepad++?`
`06:22.38`	`Deaod`	`also fraps doesnt lend itself well to streaming footage live`
`06:22.47`	`JademusSreg`	`Oh, yes, I forgot.`
`06:22.48`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`06:22.51`	`Deaod`	`not directly at hand.`
`06:22.56`	`Motive`	`Not gonna stream live so`
`06:22.56`	`Motive`	`meh`
`06:22.57`	`Motive`	`:P`
`06:23.06`	`Deaod`	`oh, i thought you were`
`06:23.07`	`Deaod`	`meh`
`06:23.13`	`Deaod`	`then it doesnt matter.`
`06:23.17`	`Motive`	`I would but my mic is on the other computer so`
`06:23.22`	`Motive`	`I'll have to record separately and then merge the audio and video`
`06:23.23`	`Motive`	`Lol`
`06:23.26`	`JademusSreg`	`He's gonna cast tutorials like onetwo, I think.`
`06:24.19`	`JademusSreg`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/TurnBasedOrderPOC.SC2Map`
`06:24.32`	`JademusSreg`	`I've been tinkering with this today.`
`06:24.45`	`JademusSreg`	`Working out the basics of order previewing.`
`06:27.31`	`JademusSreg`	`I think it is of limited use, though, given collision.`
`06:28.03`	`JademusSreg`	`I'd be better off avoiding order previews altogether.`
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`06:31.11`	`JademusSreg`	`It would work in turn based game where each unit has a turn.`
`06:31.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Rather than turn by player.`
`06:32.02`	`Deaod`	`really, what idiots work for blizzard?`
`06:32.14`	`Deaod`	`Color(fixed, fixed, fixed)`
`06:32.22`	`Deaod`	`thats the interface for the color native`
`06:32.42`	`Deaod`	`and guess what, input values range from 0 to 100`
`06:32.52`	`JademusSreg`	`Yup.`
`06:33.14`	`Deaod`	`nooo, users are too dumb and cant figure out that colors work the same as everywhere else`
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`06:33.25`	`Deaod`	`so we HAVE to make it a percentage value.-`
`06:33.40`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Woops forgot about you, one secon again`
`06:34.34`	`Deaod`	`also, if youre smart you wont ever include the campaign script.`
`06:35.02`	`Deaod`	`fixed[101][17] libCamp_gv__CB_Unit_ActivationDistance;`
`06:35.16`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`06:35.18`	`Deaod`	`1717*4 bytes down the drain`
`06:35.20`	`Deaod`	`not once`
`06:35.45`	`Deaod`	`but quite a few times`
`06:35.55`	`JademusSreg`	`17 is a strange number to use.`
`06:36.19`	`Deaod`	`maybe they just wanted to use one based player numbers`
`06:36.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Given the values, it makes me think it's autogenerated nonsense.`
`06:36.48`	`Deaod`	`its GUI nonsense.`
`06:36.50`	`JademusSreg`	`Kind of like all the GUI arrays.`
`06:36.58`	`Deaod`	`oh, riiiight`
`06:37.17`	`Deaod`	`GUI always generates an additional array place`
`06:37.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`06:37.30`	`Deaod`	`so dumb users can use one based indices`
`06:37.38`	`Deaod`	`fuck that shit.`
`06:37.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`06:37.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`06:37.51`	`Deaod`	`if you cant handle 0 based arrays, get the fuck out.`
`06:38.37`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm attempting to decide between playing a buggy game and a lame game.`
`06:38.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Fallout New Vegas and Darkspore Beta respectively.`
`06:39.17`	`Deaod`	`which one is more fun?`
`06:39.30`	`JademusSreg`	`New Vegas, by far.`
`06:39.45`	`Deaod`	`doesnt that settle it?`
`06:39.57`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Fraps, camtasio, and/or growler guncam for recording`
`06:40.12`	`Jack[RCDF`	`If you can get growler to work it's free iirc`
`06:40.20`	`JademusSreg`	`I just know New Vegas pretty well. It can be a struggle to find new and interesting things to do/kill.`
`06:40.55`	`JademusSreg`	`And killing everyone without incurring negative reputation.`
`06:41.01`	`JademusSreg`	`That is a challenge.`
`06:41.07`	`Deaod`	`const color libCamp_gv__CBC_LINE_DEFAULT_TEXTCOLOR = Color(0.,0.,0.);`
`06:41.22`	`Deaod`	`another beautiful line from CampaignLib`
`06:41.30`	`Deaod`	`the dots are my doing`
`06:41.50`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah, I'm going to go pop some heads in New Vegas.`
`06:42.10`	`Deaod`	`but you can initialize constants with functions.`
`06:42.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Hm.`
`06:42.24`	`JademusSreg`	`That is odd.`
`06:42.36`	`JademusSreg`	`I was under the impression that only primitive types could be const.`
`06:42.36`	`Deaod`	`indeed it is.`
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`06:43.06`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, I'll check in later.`
`06:43.54`	`Deaod`	`okay, see ya`
`06:44.14`	`Deaod`	`so, methinks a new documentation of galaxy is in order`
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`06:51.12`	`mojo_`	`hey everyone`
`06:51.27`	`mojo_`	`is there a way to pass unit data to morphed units?`
`06:51.41`	`mojo_`	`things like vitals, buffs, kills`
`06:55.44`	`Stimpy77_`	`UIDisplayMessage(playergroup players, c_messageAreaChat, IntToText(someInt)+sometextstuff);`
`06:56.18`	`Stimpy77_`	`^^ in this example, what is "playergroup players"? is that correct invocation syntax?`
`06:56.29`	`Stimpy77_`	`it's neither a cast nor a param`
`06:56.59`	`Stimpy77_`	`snap .. jademussreg dropped out`
`06:57.55`	`Stimpy77_`	`anyone else?`
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`07:03.42`	`Stimpy77_`	`if you say so`
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`07:13.18`	`mojo_`	`ok, so morph passes a lot of the things automatically`
`07:13.36`	`mojo_`	`I was training a unit before`
`07:13.46`	`mojo_`	`the zergling to baneling train`
`07:13.57`	`mojo_`	`I'm going to replace that w/ 2 morphs autocast`
`07:15.58`	`mojo_`	`is there a way to make a morph effect?`
`07:16.08`	`mojo_`	`instead of having to use an ability?`
`07:18.39`	`Stimpy77_`	`if I have a custom function what's the UI path (e.g. Trigger Actions tree) to invoke it?`
`07:18.50`	`Stimpy77_`	`function returns void.`
`07:20.41`	`Sixen`	`Who needed help?`
`07:20.47`	`Sixen`	`Stimpy77_ Need somethin'?`
`07:21.00`	`Stimpy77_`	`I'm constantly flowing with questions :P`
`07:21.08`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. most of which get ignored lol`
`07:21.49`	`Stimpy77_`	`can you help more w/ galaxy question or sc2mapster.com question`
`07:21.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`07:22.03`	`JademusSreg`	`Pardon. I'm playing New Vegas.`
`07:23.17`	`JademusSreg`	`PlayerGroupAll() is the usual; you pass it a playergroup to which is will display the message.`
`07:24.23`	`JademusSreg`	`I cnped the function declaration from natives.galaxy and filled in some of the parameters for you.`
`07:24.26`	`Stimpy77_`	`yeah I found PlayerGroupAll @ http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/functions/uidisplay-message/`
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`07:24.42`	`Stimpy77_`	`right but the syntax you gave was param syntax not invoke syntax`
`07:24.50`	`JademusSreg`	`I know. =)`
`07:24.55`	`JademusSreg`	`Thought you'd catch on.`
`07:24.58`	`Stimpy77_`	`k .. but I didn't`
`07:25.04`	`JademusSreg`	`My mistake.`
`07:25.06`	`Stimpy77_`	`it was all inline`
`07:25.18`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. one param was param syntax, the next param was x+y lol`
`07:25.23`	`JademusSreg`	`I can see how that would have been confusing.`
`07:25.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Any more questions before I get back to New Vegas?`
`07:26.03`	`Stimpy77_`	`it's okay .. I've cried my tears, I'm not crying anymore .. I'm done crying ..`
`07:26.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`07:26.11`	`Stimpy77_`	`no longer crying`
`07:26.17`	`JademusSreg`	`Sounds like a reference to a song.`
`07:26.40`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. so yeah my latest`
`07:26.53`	`Stimpy77_`	`... if I have a custom function what's the UI path (e.g. Trigger Actions tree) to invoke it?`
`07:26.56`	`Stimpy77_`	`function returns void`
`07:27.17`	`Stimpy77_`	`I created a custom script in which I declared a new function. Now how do I invoke that as a trigger action?`
`07:28.21`	`Motive`	`Sidenote, I tend to be anal about using PlayerGroupActive() over PlayerGroupAll() in my maps`
`07:28.27`	`JademusSreg`	`The action will be Custom Script.`
`07:28.35`	`Motive`	`I have a few decent reasons for it, namely, I forget`
`07:28.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Good point, Motive.`
`07:28.47`	`Motive`	`but I remember a few cases in which it could've saved me a headache`
`07:28.52`	`Motive`	`but generally, PlayerGroupActive() > PlayerGroupAll()`
`07:28.55`	`JademusSreg`	`It can mess up scoreboards. =)`
`07:28.57`	`Motive`	`so I'd say use Active over all in every situation`
`07:28.59`	`Motive`	`There you go`
`07:29.00`	`Motive`	`stuff like that`
`07:29.28`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Hrm`
`07:29.36`	`Stimpy77_`	`Custom Script is not a selectable action`
`07:29.51`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, functions defined in custom script can only be used in custom script or via the Custom Script trigger action.`
`07:29.53`	`Stimpy77_`	`nevermind`
`07:29.58`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. was filtered somehow`
`07:30.20`	`Stimpy77_`	`ty`
`07:30.23`	`JademusSreg`	`No problem.`
`07:30.35`	`JademusSreg`	`Anything else I can do?`
`07:30.48`	`JademusSreg`	`Before I go pew pew headshot at the draw range? =D`
`07:31.18`	`Stimpy77_`	`bring me a sandwich`
`07:31.27`	`Stimpy77_`	`sudo get me a sandwich`
`07:31.29`	`JademusSreg`	`I swear, Bethesda AIs are invariably ass.`
`07:31.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Wakka wakka`
`07:32.05`	`Stimpy77_`	`Bethesda vs Bioware .. I vote for Bioware`
`07:32.16`	`Deaod`	`none of the above.`
`07:32.17`	`Stimpy77_`	`in general`
`07:32.26`	`JademusSreg`	`I like Fallout.`
`07:32.43`	`JademusSreg`	`But I have no affinity for any given brand,`
`07:33.10`	`JademusSreg`	`Rather, I like the Fallout setting.`
`07:33.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Maybe someday there will be a great Fallout game.`
`07:33.53`	`JademusSreg`	`bbl`
`07:36.34`	`Stimpy77_`	`can you cast a real to int using (int) ?`
`07:36.41`	`Deaod`	`no`
`07:36.46`	`Stimpy77_`	`how?`
`07:36.54`	`Deaod`	`FixedToInt()`
`07:37.05`	`Stimpy77_`	`ty`
`07:37.17`	`Stimpy77_`	`Fixed is a Real?`
`07:37.26`	`Stimpy77_`	`& vice-versa?`
`07:37.30`	`Deaod`	`the only real youre gonna get`
`07:37.38`	`Stimpy77_`	`squirt`
`07:37.51`	`Deaod`	`no float or double`
`07:37.58`	`Deaod`	`because blizzard sucks.`
`07:38.27`	`Motive`	`finally something to put all 6 cores to use on`
`07:38.29`	`Motive`	`video rendering`
`07:38.29`	`Motive`	`:D`
`07:38.34`	`grim001`	`I have returned`
`07:38.47`	`Stimpy77_`	`lolwut .. fraps?`
`07:38.57`	`Motive`	`rendering the final product in sony vegas`
`07:39.04`	`Motive`	`fraps split it into like 6 videos.`
`07:39.05`	`Motive`	`Lol`
`07:39.05`	`Deaod`	`yes, thats about the only task thatll use all 6 cores, Motive.`
`07:39.25`	`Stimpy77_`	`which flavor of vegas btw`
`07:39.30`	`Motive`	`Pro 10 Trial`
`07:39.56`	`Stimpy77_`	`IntToString(objective - gv_subsurfaceImpact) // what's wrong with this syntax`
`07:40.02`	`Stimpy77_`	`both are ints`
`07:40.13`	`Motive`	`paste the full line`
`07:40.16`	`Motive`	`and the lines above and below`
`07:40.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah, nevermind. It's late here.`
`07:40.51`	`grim001`	`time to continue with the Cosmos grammar. Tonight's objective is to finish the basic version of the grammar.`
`07:41.04`	`Deaod`	`dont forget the semicolon`
`07:41.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Nearly 4am.`
`07:41.41`	`Stimpy77_`	`string impacttext = "Subsurface brood mother health: " + IntToString(objective - gv_subsurfaceImpact) + " (" + IntToString(gv_subsurfaceImpact) + "/" + IntToString(objective) + ")";`
`07:41.58`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, I play Fallout New Vegas every so often. Sadly, it gets kind of dull.`
`07:42.04`	`Motive`	`is "string impacttext" at the beginning of the method`
`07:42.07`	`Motive`	`ie. with the other declarations`
`07:42.34`	`Stimpy77_`	`yes this was working and tested fine before I added to it`
`07:42.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Being an unstoppable killing machine at level 5 makes it not much fun to play.`
`07:43.00`	`grim001`	`Jademus, that's why you need mods.`
`07:43.18`	`grim001`	`Whenever I play a PC game nowadays I usually have to install 27 mods that each make the game twice as hard.`
`07:43.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah. Maybe when I purchase thwe game, I'll implement some mods.`
`07:44.02`	`Stimpy77_`	`ahh I figured it out`
`07:44.09`	`Stimpy77_`	`objective needs gv_ prefix duh`
`07:44.15`	`Motive`	`ah haha`
`07:44.16`	`JademusSreg`	`Wakka wakka`
`07:44.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Beware fixed!`
`07:44.57`	`JademusSreg`	`It's lack of precision is rage-inducing.`
`07:45.01`	`JademusSreg`	`*Its`
`07:45.23`	`Stimpy77_`	`are variables declared in custom script outside of functions equally global and in exact same scope as game variables declared in the UI tree?`
`07:45.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Equal.`
`07:45.43`	`JademusSreg`	`It's all the same scope.`
`07:46.09`	`Stimpy77_`	`oh but they're not going to show up as options in the UI`
`07:46.18`	`JademusSreg`	`GUI, and nope. =)`
`07:46.29`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. so .. yeah I guess I'll keep using the gui then`
`07:46.35`	`Stimpy77_`	`for that`
`07:53.54`	`Motive`	`holy fuck my cast ended up 47 GB rofl`
`07:54.18`	`Motive`	`definitely gonna have to compress and find a better codec`
`07:54.30`	`Deaod`	`may i suggest h264?`
`07:54.36`	`Motive`	`already thinking that :P`
`07:54.44`	`Deaod`	`what resolution did you use?`
`07:54.45`	`JademusSreg`	`Hahaha`
`07:54.47`	`Motive`	`720p`
`07:54.49`	`Motive`	`so I was expecting big`
`07:54.50`	`Motive`	`but damn`
`07:54.51`	`Motive`	`xD`
`07:55.00`	`Deaod`	`holy crap, how long did you record?`
`07:55.05`	`Motive`	`9:10`
`07:55.05`	`Motive`	`xD`
`07:55.11`	`Motive`	`It's the codec I chose`
`07:55.16`	`Motive`	`one of the defaults on sony vegas`
`07:55.20`	`Deaod`	`wtf.`
`07:55.21`	`Motive`	`there was no H264 option so I'm gonna have to figure that out`
`07:55.22`	`JademusSreg`	`h264 srsly`
`07:55.57`	`Deaod`	`with fraps i get ~50GB when recording 20 minutes of Full HD`
`07:56.18`	`JademusSreg`	`I use Premiere Pro for video. Plenty of presets.`
`07:57.09`	`Deaod`	`squeeze that through x264 and it turns into 600MB of okay quality FullHD footage`
`07:57.11`	`Motive`	`Hmm, ok, I'll try that`
`07:57.18`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah.`
`07:57.45`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, it's late. Time for me to sleep and design my catnmouse map.`
`07:58.21`	`Stimpy77_`	`stupid, lame, lazy question .. what's the instant flavor of "fade out" action?`
`07:59.07`	`Stimpy77_`	`other than fade out over 0.0 seconds .. or is that the only way`
`08:01.12`	`Stimpy77_`	`it'll suffice, just wondering if there's an instance "black out" action .. I didn't find one`
`08:02.44`	`Stimpy77_`	`what the hey? syntax error on this ..`
`08:02.45`	`Stimpy77_`	`if (obj_perc_fixed < 0.0) obj_perc_fixed = 0.0;`
`08:02.54`	`Motive`	`if requires a { and }`
`08:03.00`	`Motive`	`no indent-if one liners supported`
`08:03.00`	`Stimpy77_`	`I tried that`
`08:03.17`	`Motive`	`if(obj_perc_fixed < 0.0) { obj_perc_fixed = 0.0; }`
`08:03.24`	`Stimpy77_`	`tried that`
`08:03.30`	`Motive`	`well start by adding the { }`
`08:03.30`	`Motive`	`xD`
`08:03.33`	`Stimpy77_`	`if (obj_perc_fixed < 0.0) {`
`08:03.34`	`Stimpy77_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:03.34`	`Stimpy77_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:03.37`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. syntax error`
`08:03.40`	`Motive`	`make sure the prefix is right on the obj_perc_fixed`
`08:03.49`	`Stimpy77_`	`no prefix, local variable`
`08:03.55`	`Motive`	`lv_obj_perc_fixed`
`08:03.59`	`Motive`	`if the Local is defined in GUI`
`08:04.06`	`Stimpy77_`	`no it's a custom script`
`08:04.16`	`Motive`	`paste the whole function`
`08:04.26`	`Stimpy77_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:04.26`	`Stimpy77_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:04.37`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. not the whole function but that's where it's declared`
`08:05.01`	`Stimpy77_`	`syntax error on the if statement`
`08:05.09`	`*** join/#sc2mapster LordAbyss (~Christoph@ip72-201-114-36.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`08:05.11`	`Jack[RCDF`	`I am a ninja.`
`08:05.19`	`grim001`	`I think the real reason semicolons are used so much is that adding any kind of whitespace sensitivity to a grammar doubles its complexity`
`08:05.25`	`Motive`	`I need the whole function :(`
`08:05.44`	`Motive`	`Galaxy is very vague with syntax errors`
`08:05.48`	`Motive`	`and line #'s can be wrong sometimes too`
`08:06.08`	`Stimpy77_`	`yeah it is vague :-/`
`08:06.26`	`Stimpy77_`	`I just ran it and tested it .. no changes now until I added the if statement ..`
`08:07.45`	`Stimpy77_`	`it's actually failing on the following line, but again the only change I made was adding the if block`
`08:08.01`	`Stimpy77_`	`like I didn't put a close curly-brace on there or something`
`08:08.21`	`Motive`	`No idea`
`08:08.36`	`Deaod`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:08.40`	`Deaod`	`look at the types`
`08:09.01`	`Deaod`	`or wait`
`08:09.08`	`Deaod`	`screw it`
`08:09.19`	`Deaod`	`im wrong`
`08:09.25`	`Stimpy77_`	`http://pastie.org/1749920 << works`
`08:09.28`	`Stimpy77_`	`http://pastie.org/1749919 << doesn't compile`
`08:09.41`	`Motive`	`bingo`
`08:09.45`	`Motive`	`remember what I told you earlier?`
`08:09.49`	`Motive`	`all declarations at the start of the method`
`08:09.52`	`Motive`	`can't declare int obj_perc below the if`
`08:09.59`	`Motive`	`have to declare all variables at the start of the method`
`08:10.02`	`Motive`	`that's what's causing the error`
`08:10.11`	`Stimpy77_`	`..`
`08:10.14`	`Stimpy77_`	`-.-`
`08:10.45`	`Stimpy77_`	`so spoiled with modern strongly typed languages ..`
`08:10.53`	`Motive`	`hey Galaxy is strongly typed`
`08:10.56`	`Motive`	`it's just weakly programmed`
`08:10.57`	`Motive`	`:P`
`08:11.01`	`Deaod`	`this is a modern crappy language.`
`08:11.02`	`Stimpy77_`	`lol`
`08:11.10`	`Stimpy77_`	`alright .. ty`
`08:11.21`	`Stimpy77_`	`compiles now`
`08:12.17`	`Stimpy77_`	`I'm just purely curious, guys, but what's your age and background? I'm a software and mostly web developer, 34 yrs old ..`
`08:13.01`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. not betting on responses to that, but, like I said, was curious .. dunno the demographics of people who create custom sc2 maps haha ..`
`08:13.01`	`Motive`	`19 and student`
`08:13.03`	`Deaod`	`20y/o university dropout.`
`08:13.29`	`Jack[RCDF`	`17, have a full time job and am studying.`
`08:14.18`	`grim001`	`25 with a job and a business.`
`08:14.26`	`grim001`	`and a lot of free time apparently.`
`08:14.53`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Lul, I have no free time. That's why I still haven't released a map.`
`08:15.02`	`Stimpy77_`	`:D .. thx for replying to that guys`
`08:15.20`	`Deaod`	`free time doesnt factor into whether you release a map.`
`08:15.34`	`Stimpy77_`	`u can always push the "release" button ..`
`08:15.42`	`Stimpy77_`	`:P`
`08:16.01`	`Motive`	`i'm gonna go ahead and say free time definitely does matter :P`
`08:16.14`	`Motive`	`maybe not long-term but in the short-term of say, a month or so`
`08:16.20`	`Motive`	`very easy to get 0 work done when you're busy`
`08:16.25`	`Stimpy77_`	`well I've put about 1 1/2 days into my map and I'm almost ready to beta test it on battle.net :P`
`08:16.35`	`Stimpy77_`	`first map evar`
`08:16.59`	`Stimpy77_`	`fun or not will give it a whopping 0.02% fun rating :D yay`
`08:17.04`	`Motive`	`my main project cortex was a few allnighters for the framework`
`08:17.06`	`Motive`	`learning galaxy, etc`
`08:17.09`	`Sixen`	`Stimpy sorry, what was up? :P`
`08:17.14`	`Sixen`	`SC2Mapster.com question?`
`08:17.19`	`grim001`	`now I must give the grammar some kind of "elseif" construct due to the fact that I ruined "else if" by making {} never optional.`
`08:17.29`	`Stimpy77_`	`yeah sixen you behind sc2mapster.com by any chance?`
`08:18.13`	`Stimpy77_`	`I could swear sixen is an Eliza. :D`
`08:18.21`	`Deaod`	`just allow elseif in addition to else`
`08:18.58`	`Sixen`	`Yeah ;)`
`08:19.05`	`Saeris`	`zZz sixen is still up?`
`08:19.09`	`Stimpy77_`	`yeah I can't register .. "Bad Request"`
`08:19.11`	`Sixen`	`Hai Saeris.`
`08:19.16`	`Saeris`	`sup`
`08:19.29`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. Forgot Password also gives me "Bad Request", which I tried wondering maybe I'm in there already`
`08:19.36`	`Sixen`	`hmm`
`08:19.44`	`Sixen`	`What's your account? Is it Stimpy77?`
`08:19.48`	`Stimpy77_`	`using username stimpy77, e-mail addy jon@jondavis.net`
`08:19.53`	`Saeris`	`i had that problem too when a few of my friends registered`
`08:20.01`	`Saeris`	`dunno how i got past it tho`
`08:20.03`	`Saeris`	`but`
`08:20.11`	`Saeris`	`register on any curse site`
`08:20.14`	`Saeris`	`the login shares`
`08:20.14`	`grim001`	`well the elseif part has got to be recursive.`
`08:20.31`	`Sixen`	`Yeah, that's not your e-mail. Looks like someone else has this account :X`
`08:20.47`	`Stimpy77_`	`there's another stimpy77?`
`08:20.50`	`Stimpy77_`	`sobz`
`08:20.50`	`Sixen`	`loop2000@gmx.de`
`08:20.56`	`Motive`	`there's another motive and he's in masters`
`08:20.56`	`Stimpy77_`	`nope dunno him`
`08:21.06`	`Motive`	`personally, I want to kill him and steal his rank, and my name back`
`08:21.09`	`Sixen`	`StimpySeventySeven, gogo`
`08:21.11`	`Saeris`	`well stimpy if you keep having problems`
`08:21.11`	`Sixen`	`lol motive`
`08:21.14`	`Stimpy77_`	`that error message seriously needs to be cleaned up`
`08:21.15`	`Deaod`	`<if statement>::=<if> <elseifs> <else>`
`08:21.17`	`Saeris`	`register an account on curse`
`08:21.20`	`Sixen`	`:(`
`08:21.23`	`Saeris`	`and you can use the same login on mapster`
`08:21.24`	`Deaod`	`\| <if> <else>`
`08:21.28`	`Deaod`	`\| <if>`
`08:21.41`	`Stimpy77_`	`so why did jon@jondavis.net on Forgot Password also just say "Bad Request"? meh ..`
`08:21.48`	`Deaod`	`<elseifs>::= <elseif> <elseifs>`
`08:21.50`	`Stimpy77_`	`oh because I haven' tregistered duh`
`08:21.53`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. again, bad error`
`08:21.56`	`Deaod`	`\| <elseif>`
`08:22.01`	`Stimpy77_`	`alright .. I'll register w/ stimpy_77`
`08:22.06`	`Stimpy77_`	`(underscore)`
`08:23.03`	`Stimpy77_`	`Invalid input.`
`08:23.10`	`Stimpy77_`	`^^ new error .. doesn't like the underscore`
`08:23.13`	`Stimpy77_`	`f- me`
`08:23.20`	`Stimpy77_`	`I don't like stimpyseventyseven lol`
`08:23.21`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Olol. People at sen think s2mn is fo rlz.`
`08:23.31`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`08:23.35`	`Sixen`	`It is`
`08:24.04`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Naw bro. I'm on the staff forum, we have a topic about it.`
`08:24.06`	`Stimpy77_`	`alright I used my old crappy name 'xiaoth'`
`08:24.12`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`08:24.20`	`grim001`	`nice, it's got no shift-reduce conflict.`
`08:24.37`	`Stimpy77_`	`the heck`
`08:24.41`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. it's showing my photo`
`08:24.46`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Incidentally, TMA better not be a team micro arena sixen.`
`08:24.48`	`Stimpy77_`	`you guys using gravatar or something?`
`08:24.59`	`Sixen`	`If I told you what it was, i'd have to kill you.`
`08:25.02`	`Jack[RCDF`	`OLOL MAPSTER IS HACKING YOU`
`08:25.18`	`Jack[RCDF`	`You can tell me what it isn't ;0`
`08:25.26`	`Sixen`	`It isn't a lot of things ;)`
`08:25.43`	`Stimpy77_`	`good it's gravatar`
`08:25.49`	`Stimpy77_`	`scared the @#$% outta me :P`
`08:25.53`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`08:26.27`	`Jack[RCDF`	`So like, I worked out how to get models into sc2 without max.`
`08:27.16`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Once I have some proof I'll let ya'llz know, you can news it if you decide it's worthy and you don' hate me too much.`
`08:27.53`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Bah ipod touch keyboard don't*`
`08:28.14`	`grim001`	`now the last thing I need to do is add logic junk and the basic grammar is good to go.`
`08:28.43`	`Jack[RCDF`	`What's this for grimm? You're not the grape guy are you?`
`08:28.50`	`grim001`	`no.`
`08:28.57`	`grim001`	`that's Vestras.`
`08:29.11`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Mhmm, then vat are you dovink.`
`08:29.16`	`grim001`	`Cosmos.`
`08:29.29`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Link to more info?`
`08:29.36`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Or is there none.`
`08:30.19`	`grim001`	`I made quite a bit of documentation for it but that was a while back.`
`08:30.31`	`Sixen`	`You're still working on Cosmos?`
`08:30.47`	`grim001`	`It's more like I just started working on it a couple days ago.`
`08:31.00`	`Sixen`	`Weren't we talking about it in sparsile months ago?`
`08:31.07`	`Deaod`	`yes`
`08:31.10`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`08:31.13`	`grim001`	`I lost my motivation after that.`
`08:31.23`	`grim001`	`But now I'm back, like a phoenix of time-wasting.`
`08:31.26`	`Sixen`	`Whatever happened to Mind? He disappeared.`
`08:31.38`	`Deaod`	`i think work caught up with him.`
`08:31.38`	`grim001`	`I dunno.`
`08:31.41`	`Sixen`	`=/`
`08:32.01`	`Sixen`	`Such ashame, Sparsile would've been awesome.`
`08:32.07`	`Deaod`	`yes.`
`08:32.14`	`Deaod`	`i still hope hell come back.`
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`08:33.40`	`Obatztrara`	`morning`
`08:33.43`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Hell is a bad place though ;0`
`08:33.49`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Evening`
`08:34.06`	`Obatztrara`	`anyone wanna join me for a 10-minute test of my map? (On EU)`
`08:34.35`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Haven't got an eu account yet, or sc2 access right now. Sorry :P`
`08:34.50`	`Obatztrara`	`k =/`
`08:34.51`	`grim001`	`Deaod I'm not sure how this LogicOr/LogicAnd etc part of your grammar works precisely.`
`08:35.01`	`Sixen`	`Mmm, i'm NA :(`
`08:35.34`	`Deaod`	`basically, it tries to reduce as far as it can get.`
`08:36.01`	`grim001`	`I see that, but I dont see why the left side of the operator is one level lower than the right side.`
`08:36.15`	`Jack[RCDF`	`I'm surprised you don't have an account for every server sixen :P`
`08:36.42`	`Jack[RCDF`	`When I buy my eu account I'll have SEA, NA, and EU accounts.`
`08:36.46`	`Deaod`	`well, im not too sure how it works either.`
`08:38.03`	`grim001`	`:P`
`08:40.17`	`Deaod`	`i basically copied the logic from Zoxc's grammar`
`08:40.33`	`Deaod`	`albeit with wrong operator precedence`
`08:40.59`	`Deaod`	`testing confirmed it works how i want it to`
`08:41.04`	`grim001`	`im going to attempt to write my own version of it and see how far I get`
`08:41.18`	`Deaod`	`so im not going to change it.`
`08:44.20`	`Sixen`	`Jack, I had SEA and EU trials as well as NA, but they don't let Trials post on the forums or upload maps after expiry anymore`
`08:44.29`	`Sixen`	`They added that in with a patch :(`
`08:45.18`	`grim001`	`does operator precedence even matter for this?`
`08:45.38`	`Motive`	`depends on the level of rewriting you do, I believe`
`08:45.46`	`grim001`	`suppose so`
`08:45.51`	`grim001`	`I should attempt to make it work correctly`
`08:46.01`	`grim001`	`although I'd need to test all of the operator precedence for galaxy`
`08:46.10`	`Deaod`	`ive done that recently`
`08:46.21`	`Deaod`	`http://deaod.de/GalaxyOperators.txt`
`08:46.26`	`grim001`	`oh, thats good.`
`08:46.54`	`grim001`	`it's good that someone has documented it.`
`08:47.39`	`Deaod`	`well, any C tutorial would tell you about the same`
`08:49.30`	`grim001`	`who knows if blizzard screwed something up..`
`08:49.35`	`grim001`	`unless its tested.`
`08:49.55`	`Deaod`	`well, i didnt know about the operator precedence in C before i tested`
`08:50.03`	`Deaod`	`but it turned out to be the same`
`08:50.46`	`Deaod`	`note that unary operators have the highest precedence`
`08:50.57`	`grim001`	`indeed`
`08:51.05`	`grim001`	`would be kind of screwed up if they didnt...`
`08:51.16`	`Deaod`	`i didnt write that down`
`08:52.23`	`Deaod`	`i love how you could write i+++5 in C and the compiler wouldnt go wtf`
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`08:53.49`	`Deaod`	`also, Blizzards compiler apparently loops over the whole file and looks for "++" and "--"`
`08:54.28`	`Deaod`	`instead of simply modifying the grammar to not allow ++/-- they do some hardcoded shit`
`08:55.25`	`grim001`	`very nice`
`08:55.44`	`Deaod`	`i mentioned that before i think`
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`08:55.56`	`Stewox`	`~seen bounty`
`08:56.04`	`purl`	`bounty <442d304d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.48.77> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 17h 8m 59s ago, saying: 'lolwut'.`
`08:56.04`	`Deaod`	`(4+ +6) is valid galaxy code`
`08:56.07`	`Deaod`	`(4++6) isnt`
`09:00.57`	`grim001`	`well i tried doing it the naive way and got 100 reduce-reduce conflicts.`
`09:06.35`	`grim001`	`well, I fixed it and now it just has 100 shift-reduce errors.`
`09:06.46`	`grim001`	`grammar is totally ambiguous.`
`09:08.22`	`grim001`	`...`
`09:08.32`	`grim001`	`I figured out how zoxc's version works.`
`09:08.51`	`Stimpy77_`	`you can't use ++?`
`09:10.24`	`grim001`	`stimpy, it doesnt exist in galaxy.`
`09:11.32`	`grim001`	`zoxc's version is pretty clever.`
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`09:25.39`	`Stimpy77_`	`"also, Blizzards compiler apparently loops over the whole file and looks for "++" and "--"`
`09:25.42`	`Stimpy77_`	`^^ doing what?`
`09:25.47`	`Stimpy77_`	`replacing it?`
`09:25.49`	`Stimpy77_`	`dropping it?`
`09:31.09`	`grim001`	`producing an error message if you used it`
`09:31.16`	`grim001`	`Deaod you still alive?`
`09:32.05`	`grim001`	`are !&, ^^, ->, !\| even valid operators in galaxy?`
`09:33.32`	`grim001`	`just tested, they arent, so it'd be a good idea to remove them from the grammar.`
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`09:40.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`where do babies come from?`
`09:40.14`	`Sixen`	`stork`
`09:40.32`	`Stimpy77_`	`God's Galaxy script`
`09:40.34`	`ProzaicMuze`	`where do storks come from?`
`09:40.59`	`Stimpy77_`	`Satan's master plan`
`09:41.02`	`Sixen`	`more storks`
`09:41.12`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@.@`
`09:41.13`	`Sixen`	`me`
`09:41.15`	`Sixen`	`:(`
`09:41.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`So if I capture all the storks, i could rule the world!`
`09:41.25`	`Sixen`	`potentially :D`
`09:41.51`	`ProzaicMuze`	`win`
`09:44.56`	`Lilianna`	`D:`
`09:45.00`	`ProzaicMuze`	`>:D`
`09:46.13`	`Lilianna`	`.`
`09:46.19`	`ProzaicMuze`	`!`
`09:46.52`	`Lilianna`	`Dont make fun of my typing!`
`09:46.54`	`Lilianna`	`Im laying down :o`
`09:47.11`	`Stimpy77_`	`"run trigger " "check conditions" << does that cause the following action to stop if the conditions are false, or does it only cause the invoked trigger's actions to not execute? Cause I thought the latter but I'm seeing it do .. weird things ..`
`09:47.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`then maybe you should sit up?`
`09:48.20`	`Lilianna`	`nah, I just got comfy`
`09:49.35`	`ProzaicMuze`	`but how comfy ARE you?`
`09:49.42`	`grim001`	`stimpy it only causes the invoked trigger to not execute its actions if the condition is false.`
`09:49.46`	`Lilianna`	`comfy enough to fall asleep soon!`
`09:49.57`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Sleep...good idea.`
`09:50.05`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Night all.`
`09:50.21`	`Lilianna`	`Prozaic! You missed out when I was working on a tank map :o`
`09:50.35`	`Lilianna`	`I got right click firing with turret turning all working in data alone. :D`
`09:50.42`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Wat. A gurl who makes maps?`
`09:50.52`	`ProzaicMuze`	`let me guess, it involved tanks?`
`09:50.53`	`Maul`	`~purl do you boogie?`
`09:50.53`	`purl`	`yes, I boogie.`
`09:51.07`	`Lilianna`	`I more solve problems and come up with ideas :o`
`09:51.16`	`Jack[RCDF`	`No wai, last tine I saw a girl mapper was like...2007.`
`09:51.28`	`Lilianna`	`You never say Evivyn?`
`09:51.33`	`Maul`	`~purl do you boogie woogie?`
`09:51.33`	`purl`	`yes, I boogie woogie.`
`09:51.34`	`Lilianna`	`Eiviyn?`
`09:51.41`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~whois Maul`
`09:51.45`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Say or see?`
`09:51.47`	`Maul`	`~purl do you boogie woogie all night long?`
`09:51.47`	`purl`	`yes, I boogie woogie all night long.`
`09:51.54`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~purl whois maul`
`09:51.56`	`ProzaicMuze`	`wtf`
`09:51.59`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I can't remember teh commands`
`09:52.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I R Phail`
`09:52.05`	`Lilianna`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:52.11`	`ProzaicMuze`	`<PROTECTED>`
`09:52.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~purl Maul`
`09:52.20`	`Lilianna`	`:P`
`09:52.20`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~Mail`
`09:52.21`	`purl`	`well, mail is on it's way`
`09:52.25`	`Jack[RCDF`	`~whoami`
`09:52.25`	`purl`	`you are jack[rcdf, or ~JackRCDF@210.185.12.131 on #sc2mapster and it's 2011.04.03. Don't believe me? Ask Gohla!`
`09:52.38`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~whois Maul`
`09:52.44`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~whois ProzaicMuze`
`09:52.44`	`purl`	`you are, like, a being of pure light descended from a higher plane to grace the wicked creature that is man with his blessings of knowledge.`
`09:52.45`	`ProzaicMuze`	`@>@`
`09:52.48`	`Lilianna`	`but yes, I was happy with the ability turning a turret`
`09:52.48`	`Jack[RCDF`	`~whois yo momma`
`09:52.48`	`purl`	`yo momma has a glass eye with a fish in it!`
`09:53.00`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Too roight`
`09:53.01`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I'm from a higher plane?`
`09:53.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`wtf!?`
`09:53.04`	`ProzaicMuze`	`WIN`
`09:53.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`BUT`
`09:53.14`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~whois Maul`
`09:53.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`!!`
`09:53.22`	`Lilianna`	`no one has filled anything in yet`
`09:53.24`	`Lilianna`	`It seems`
`09:53.28`	`ProzaicMuze`	`By Purl's account, Maul doesn't exist`
`09:53.28`	`Maul`	`~purl do you get tired of prozaicmuze's insolence?`
`09:53.28`	`purl`	`yes, I get tired of prozaicmuze's insolence.`
`09:53.42`	`Jack[RCDF`	`But I do need sleep. Peace. Tomorrow I prove my modelsintosc2withoughtmax theory.`
`09:53.43`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~purl is Maul a nobody?`
`09:53.44`	`Maul`	`~purl do you think i exist?`
`09:53.44`	`purl`	`yes, I think i exist.`
`09:53.53`	`Maul`	`D:`
`09:54.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~8ball is Maul invisible?`
`09:54.02`	`purl`	`Please ask again.`
`09:54.05`	`Maul`	`purl won't even acknowledge me`
`09:54.10`	`ProzaicMuze`	`~8baill is Maul invisible?`
`09:54.11`	`purl`	`okay, ProzaicMuze`
`09:54.15`	`ProzaicMuze`	`lmao`
`09:54.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Maul, you braked purl!`
`09:54.25`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Maul = broken purl commands`
`09:54.43`	`Maul`	`~purl do you think we live underneath the radar`
`09:54.44`	`purl`	`yes, I think we live underneath the radar.`
`09:54.53`	`Maul`	`:D`
`09:55.05`	`Lilianna`	`~purl stop thinking.`
`09:55.05`	`purl`	`ACTION leaps to his feet and stops thinking.`
`09:55.19`	`Lilianna`	`o_o`
`09:56.41`	`Maul`	`~purl where is maul?`
`09:56.41`	`purl`	`rumour has it, maul is at nowhere`
`09:58.21`	`Maul`	`~purl where is carmen san diago?`
`09:58.21`	`purl`	`it has been said that carmen san diago is at maul's location`
`09:59.37`	`grim001`	`int i = 1 * 2 / 3 % 4 + 5 - 6 << 7 >> 8 & 9 ^ 10 \| 11;`
`09:59.42`	`grim001`	`fun`
`10:00.30`	`Maul`	`¿lol que?`
`10:03.10`	`Stimpy77_`	`is there a way to get an export of trigger errors?`
`10:03.25`	`Stimpy77_`	`when they're on-screen they're truncated and temporary`
`10:04.46`	`grim001`	`no.`
`10:05.05`	`Maul`	`yeah i wish there was`
`10:06.38`	`Stimpy77_`	`Trigger error in 'gt_DefeatTimeout_Func'. Event response function 'EventUnit' has no matching event`
`10:06.40`	`Stimpy77_`	`what the heck does that mean`
`10:06.47`	`Stimpy77_`	`everything is populated`
`10:07.04`	`grim001`	`well, it looks like the basic version of the Cosmos grammar is done.`
`10:08.41`	`grim001`	`that took less time than expected.`
`10:09.07`	`Stimpy77_`	`nvm I had an invalid nested condition`
`10:09.47`	`Deaod`	`someone pinged me?`
`10:10.32`	`Deaod`	`ahh, those boolean operators`
`10:10.42`	`Deaod`	`no, those arent valid galaxy code`
`10:11.19`	`Deaod`	`i added them to the grammar because whatever language i am writing a compiler for will support them`
`10:11.33`	`ProzaicMuze`	`FRIDAY FRIDAY. . . .`
`10:11.35`	`grim001`	`I finished the grammar sans stuff in Galaxy that is not supported. want to take a look?`
`10:11.49`	`Deaod`	`sure`
`10:12.50`	`grim001`	`http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22137420/Cosmos.grm`
`10:13.41`	`Sixen`	`lol PM`
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`10:15.23`	`Deaod`	`oh, btw, block comments arent valid galaxy`
`10:16.02`	`ProzaicMuze`	`I cant' wait until she commits suicide or something`
`10:16.08`	`ProzaicMuze`	`She will never live this down`
`10:16.09`	`ProzaicMuze`	`ever`
`10:16.18`	`ProzaicMuze`	`Even god is facepalming`
`10:16.32`	`grim001`	`yeah, I know.`
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`10:18.49`	`grim001`	`i figured it would allow at least 1 thing in there that will require me to alter code for it to work.`
`10:19.11`	`grim001`	`now im going to try to figure out how to use the Java engine for GOLD.`
`10:21.13`	`Deaod`	`btw, you got precedence backward`
`10:21.15`	`Deaod`	`s`
`10:21.28`	`grim001`	`i was wondering if it was backwards or not.`
`10:21.33`	`grim001`	`didnt put a lot of thought into it though.`
`10:22.03`	`Deaod`	`the GOLD builder comes with a test window`
`10:22.22`	`Deaod`	`turn on trim reductions and test it.`
`10:22.24`	`grim001`	`yes, I'm not sure how one would test precedence considering it'll compile either way.`
`10:22.32`	`grim001`	`dont know what trim reductions does.`
`10:22.59`	`Deaod`	`it skips reductions like <A>::=<B>`
`10:23.17`	`Deaod`	`int value=4+5*6`
`10:23.21`	`Deaod`	`that should do it.`
`10:23.33`	`Deaod`	`testing generates a parse tree for it.`
`10:24.02`	`Xaragoth`	`the crab keeps following me around`
`10:24.10`	`Xaragoth`	`lets cook it`
`10:24.23`	`ProzaicMuze`	`GO die`
`10:24.56`	`grim001`	`never did look at the parse tree output previously`
`10:25.02`	`grim001`	`ignored all those buttons on the top :P`
`10:26.50`	`grim001`	`Oh, I see.`
`10:27.42`	`grim001`	`I used 55+5... it's got the 5+5 grouped under Precedence1, which is under 5 Precedence1`
`10:34.23`	`grim001`	`it's fixed now.`
`10:34.41`	`Helral`	`hmmmm I've started with season 2 of the SC2Layout file tutorials ;p in this season I'll be taking a look at the new method :P`
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`10:46.55`	`grim001`	`I just read through a tutorial of how to use the Java engine for GOLD, it was unexpectedly easy-looking.`
`10:49.28`	`Deaod`	`http://deaod.de/Galaxy.txt -- WIP of a description of Galaxy`
`10:51.29`	`grim001`	`nice opening`
`10:53.02`	`Helral`	`Sixen you awake?`
`11:00.26`	`grim001`	`arr`
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`11:21.53`	`Stimpy77_`	`adding a condition for "unit state != idle" .. no such thing exists ..`
`11:22.02`	`Stimpy77_`	`how do you check for idleness for a unit`
`11:23.02`	`Stimpy77_`	`good god nevermind`
`11:23.26`	`Stimpy77_`	`nevermind << nevermind .. I still need to know .. thought I found something but I didn't`
`11:25.43`	`Stimpy77_`	`Unit Order Count == 0 might work`
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`11:26.10`	`Walshie`	`hi all`
`11:26.22`	`Stimpy77_`	`HAI`
`11:26.46`	`Walshie`	`Im looking for some help decreasing graphical lag in my dense map.`
`11:27.06`	`Walshie`	`Has anyone here had this issue and resolved it?`
`11:32.05`	`Maul`	`isnt the issue the users hardware?`
`11:33.49`	`Walshie`	`the issue is need to design a way to make a object draw distance around the character`
`11:34.20`	`Walshie`	`i have 2 GTX 460s and i lag :D`
`11:34.20`	`grim001`	`this is damn annoying, Java wont find the main class in a .class file even if I specify the classpath.`
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`11:35.12`	`Stimpy77_`	`how do I order all units in a region to attack at a target point? I'm currently using the "unit enters region" event but now they're already in the region and they're idle.`
`11:36.03`	`Maul`	`have you tried playing around with lighting?`
`11:36.22`	`Maul`	`i recall seeing something like draw distance in camera or lighting settings`
`11:36.24`	`Maul`	`probably camera`
`11:36.43`	`Walshie`	`I have messed with the draw distance but it removed the skybox lol`
`11:37.09`	`Walshie`	`i think i need to make a fake skybox that follows the character that will not be removed by draw distnace`
`11:44.33`	`grim001`	`cannot find the main class error... all night...`
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`11:52.12`	`Walshie`	`Fixed :P`
`12:04.07`	`Stimpy77_`	`if you move a region to a point is it centered? or top-left'd?`
`12:04.54`	`grim001`	`java command line is broken on about 40% of machines that try to install java.. going from the from posts`
`12:05.08`	`grim001`	`practically no choice but to use an IDE`
`12:13.43`	`Stimpy77_`	`anyone know of an IRC channel on the interwebz for SC2 map creation that's for n00bz?`
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`15:07.32`	`Slaydon`	`hiho mapperitos`
`15:09.29`	`Slaydon`	`well hey hey slaydon`
`15:09.32`	`Slaydon`	`Hai slaydon`
`15:09.35`	`Slaydon`	`heeyy slaydon`
`15:09.39`	`Slaydon`	`we all love you slaydon`
`15:09.43`	`Slaydon`	`Hehe, hello :P`
`15:09.57`	`depthsofchaos`	`hey stranger :o`
`15:10.07`	`Slaydon`	`O:`
`15:14.45`	`Mexa`	`hello.`
`15:15.38`	`Mexa`	`Watching a movie myself, and everybody else seems to be vanished too.`
`15:15.45`	`Slaydon`	`O:`
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`15:19.04`	`zeta3`	`anyone know how to return the value where when you click on a refinery, it tells you the number of workers in it?`
`15:21.18`	`zeta3`	`the "Current Harvesters" thing`
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`15:29.42`	`zeta3`	`=(`
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`15:47.20`	`Bounty`	`lol @ interview with mephs`
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`15:47.36`	`Bounty`	`Interviewer - "What does chirus's map offer that yours does not"`
`15:47.41`	`Bounty`	`Mephs - "Soccer"`
`15:47.44`	`Bounty`	`lololol`
`15:54.22`	`Mexa`	`"I will deprotect anything for cash."`
`15:54.34`	`Mexa`	`What a funny statement`
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`15:55.33`	`Bounty`	`WHAT THA FUCK`
`15:55.38`	`Bounty`	`FUCKING CRAB ON MY SCREEN`
`15:55.46`	`Bounty`	`on the forums`
`15:55.52`	`Bounty`	`huge ass blue crab`
`15:56.16`	`Mexa`	`A joke overdue.`
`15:59.06`	`Mexa`	`Hit the weak spot for massive damage.`
`16:01.20`	`Obatztrara`	`anyone on EU wanna join me for a 10 minute test?`
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`16:01.57`	`UloseTheGame`	`hey guys`
`16:02.04`	`Obatztrara`	`sup`
`16:02.40`	`UloseTheGame`	`hey guys`
`16:02.44`	`UloseTheGame`	`hey guyswhoops`
`16:03.04`	`UloseTheGame`	`it keeps copying my previous chatr O_O`
`16:03.19`	`UloseTheGame`	`Anyway, touch the titan is up!`
`16:08.16`	`Obatztrara`	`anybody for a quick (10 min maximum) test in EU?`
`16:08.20`	`Bounty`	`Sounds like a map about molestation`
`16:09.06`	`Obatztrara`	`nvm, got someone`
`16:09.13`	`Obatztrara`	`and yes lol`
`16:09.31`	`Slaydon`	`asdf`
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`16:14.41`	`Dryeyece`	`Whats up everyone 8)`
`16:15.38`	`Bounty`	`Wazaap`
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`16:35.05`	`Hati`	`:D`
`16:35.09`	`Hati`	`Crabby on mapster?`
`16:36.16`	`Slaydon`	`http://www.ustream.tv/decoraheagles`
`16:36.22`	`Slaydon`	`:3`
`16:37.40`	`Hati`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/20316-is-retard-offensive/?page=2#p26`
`16:39.56`	`Helral`	`Sixen you alive again?`
`16:40.44`	`Helral`	`hmmm still not I guess ;p`
`16:42.51`	`zeta3`	`anyone know how to return the value where when you click on a refinery, it tells you the number of workers in it?`
`16:44.51`	`Helral`	`no idea`
`16:46.17`	`zeta3`	`trying to detect the number of units i have mining gas and minerals`
`16:46.25`	`zeta3`	`and if a refinery is saturated or not`
`16:46.56`	`Stimpy77_`	`Is there a way to get a map to be play tested by someone in short order if you have no friends? :)`
`16:49.08`	`Helral`	`on bnet?`
`16:49.25`	`Hati`	`Stimpy77_: like public beta?`
`16:49.34`	`Helral`	`check the SC2mapster channel ingame if anyone wants to help testing ;p`
`16:49.49`	`Stimpy77_`	`closed beta .. I'm in sc2 chat right now .. this is usually a dead end`
`16:50.23`	`Helral`	`ask people here if they have a moment to come online with sc2 on [Insert server here] to help you test something`
`16:54.54`	`Helral`	`btw Hati incase people need UI help: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/20323-sc2layout-files-override-method-aiurchef-method/`
`17:01.57`	`Slaydon`	`hmm`
`17:02.07`	`Slaydon`	`I wonder on how i want to script a day / night cycle`
`17:02.21`	`Slaydon`	`I want it to change the light, i got Night and Day set already`
`17:02.40`	`Slaydon`	`And hide all the omni lights outside of a special region`
`17:02.50`	`Slaydon`	`and then unhide at night`
`17:03.25`	`zeta3`	`ahhh`
`17:03.31`	`zeta3`	`sigh`
`17:03.37`	`zeta3`	`there must be some hidden value somewhere`
`17:03.46`	`zeta3`	`that tells you the Current Harvesters`
`17:03.57`	`Slaydon`	`lol, still looking for that ? :/`
`17:03.59`	`zeta3`	`yes`
`17:04.02`	`zeta3`	`driving me nuts`
`17:04.11`	`zeta3`	`there is no "nice" way to do it manually`
`17:04.18`	`zeta3`	`i need to make a trigger that detects unsaturation`
`17:04.42`	`zeta3`	`eg. if # of workers mining gas x < 3 then do y`
`17:06.08`	`Slaydon`	`S:`
`17:06.37`	`Slaydon`	`Why do you want the value of how many is in a geyser btw?`
`17:07.20`	`zeta3`	`well not actually "in" a geyser, but the number mining at a geyser, i need to make a trigger based off that`
`17:08.14`	`Slaydon`	`how about you time the time it takes to mine gas and check when your gas increases by 5`
`17:08.23`	`zeta3`	`hm`
`17:08.39`	`zeta3`	`i was going to do that initially - but it makes it hard to tell which particular refinery is unsaturated`
`17:09.04`	`zeta3`	`i need to be able to pick out specifically the refineries that aren't saturated - if i do a rate calculation it doesn't tell me which refinery is bad`
`17:09.22`	`Slaydon`	`S:`
`17:09.37`	`Slaydon`	`you just check, if a refinery isnt mining?`
`17:09.54`	`zeta3`	`what if it has 1 miner`
`17:09.56`	`zeta3`	`or 2`
`17:10.05`	`Slaydon`	`hmm`
`17:10.18`	`Slaydon`	`no idea`
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`17:11.13`	`zeta3`	`i wish there was an elegant way`
`17:11.24`	`Helral`	`zeta3: it might be added in a patch in the future ;p`
`17:11.34`	`zeta3`	`lol well they added the feature in the game`
`17:11.39`	`zeta3`	`but just can't find it in the editor`
`17:11.48`	`Helral`	`well yeah first it gets in the game, then it gets in the editor ;p`
`17:12.02`	`zeta3`	`well i thing there is some value somewhere`
`17:12.10`	`zeta3`	`i can probably access it`
`17:12.12`	`zeta3`	`using custom script`
`17:12.14`	`zeta3`	`or something`
`17:12.27`	`Helral`	`it's always done in 2 phases ;p cause they didn't think that anyone would wanna retrieve that value with triggers.`
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`17:17.52`	`Slaydon`	`Helral, you know the void for hiding doodads OUTSIDE of a region?`
`17:18.04`	`Slaydon`	`im to lazy to find it myself`
`17:18.05`	`Slaydon`	`:3`
`17:18.55`	`Slaydon`	`fffÂ¨`
`17:22.20`	`Slaydon`	`how to hide certain doodad types?`
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`17:24.23`	`Slaydon`	`How to hide doodad types :S`
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`17:29.44`	`JademusSreg`	`By sending actor messages, Slaydon.`
`17:29.53`	`Slaydon`	`so i found out lol`
`17:30.13`	`Slaydon`	`but, how can i get ALL the doodads of certain types (all the omnis)`
`17:30.15`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah, I'm mostly afk; it's a busy day.`
`17:30.57`	`JademusSreg`	`native void ActorScopeSend (actorscope as, string msg);`
`17:30.58`	`Slaydon`	`Cuz if i send actor messages, i need to do it for every omni light manually`
`17:31.14`	`JademusSreg`	`You send the message to the actor scope.`
`17:31.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Which are the containers for actors.`
`17:31.40`	`JademusSreg`	`For it to work, you need to assign the actor to an actor scope on creation.`
`17:31.54`	`JademusSreg`	`GUI actors are created in the NULL actorscope, which is kinda dumb.`
`17:32.33`	`Slaydon`	`:S, so its kinda hard to hide all the omni lights except for some regions?`
`17:32.41`	`Slaydon`	`without alot of work`
`17:32.53`	`JademusSreg`	`Nope.`
`17:32.54`	`Slaydon`	`oh wait!`
`17:32.57`	`JademusSreg`	`Not hard at all.`
`17:32.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Trivial.`
`17:33.01`	`Slaydon`	`i can just loop it xP`
`17:33.18`	`JademusSreg`	`You can't iterate actors by region.`
`17:33.19`	`Slaydon`	`like "OmniBlue"+IntToString(loop)`
`17:34.00`	`JademusSreg`	`I don't even know what you're saving there. =D`
`17:34.04`	`JademusSreg`	`*saying`
`17:34.34`	`JademusSreg`	`ActorFrom (string name); ?`
`17:34.51`	`JademusSreg`	`I don't actually know actor names, so maybe that works, dunno.`
`17:34.57`	`Slaydon`	`I need to hide all of the omni lights except for them inside a region, which shall contain omni lights in dark areas at certain times`
`17:35.21`	`JademusSreg`	`You might be better off storing them in data tables.`
`17:35.24`	`Slaydon`	`like at day, lights in caves will still be lit, but outside they wont produce light`
`17:35.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Unless that's what you are doing, in which case, you're going in the right direction. =D`
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`17:37.44`	`Slaydon`	`Jademus, >:, they arent stored as names, so this might get abit hard`
`17:38.28`	`JManV`	`i just keep arrays of light information and create/destroy them as needed, but I think my situation is a little more controlled that yours`
`17:38.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`17:38.42`	`JademusSreg`	`That's why I suggest data tables.`
`17:38.52`	`zeta3`	`with issued orders, do they only fire if the PLAYER issues the order? or do they also fire when the computer/AI/Automated system issues an order`
`17:39.01`	`zeta3`	`like with harvesting - gather and return cargo are automated`
`17:39.10`	`JademusSreg`	`zeta, anything.`
`17:39.14`	`Slaydon`	`How would i store them in data tables? do i need to do it manually?`
`17:39.15`	`zeta3`	`I see`
`17:39.28`	`JademusSreg`	`Slaydon, wha?`
`17:39.29`	`JManV`	`but, the action happens, what, every 5 minutes? why not just scan every unit meeting a condition and send an actor message?`
`17:39.51`	`Slaydon`	`How would i store my Omni ligths (which are outside a certain region) inside a table?`
`17:40.07`	`JademusSreg`	`If Slaydon is using units, that makes it very easy to work within regions.`
`17:40.18`	`JManV`	`oh, what, doodads`
`17:40.21`	`JManV`	`that's right`
`17:40.25`	`JManV`	`what=wait`
`17:40.45`	`JademusSreg`	`Slaydon, write a function or action that creates and stores the actor in a data table and call that in your triggers where you create the doodads.`
`17:40.57`	`JManV`	`aren't there actor functions to iterate doodads?`
`17:41.02`	`JademusSreg`	`No.`
`17:41.08`	`JManV`	`bummer`
`17:41.16`	`JademusSreg`	`That's why I used units in my procedural generation.`
`17:41.27`	`JManV`	`how many distinct omnis are you using, slaydon?`
`17:41.28`	`JademusSreg`	`Also, pathing footprint fail.`
`17:41.31`	`Slaydon`	`JademusSreg, i kinda, make them in the terrain editor :S, but i can look for the code`
`17:41.57`	`Slaydon`	`JManV, im using about 8 different omni lights and i use alot of them`
`17:42.13`	`JManV`	`well, you could promote those 8 to units`
`17:42.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Sounds like a data management problem, fundamentally.`
`17:42.38`	`JManV`	`units can have a behavior that marks them as a light`
`17:42.45`	`JManV`	`units can be iterated`
`17:42.47`	`JademusSreg`	`Basically, if you want to work by area, you should use units.`
`17:42.48`	`Slaydon`	`Wait, i cant check the time of day as an actor event, can i?`
`17:42.58`	`JademusSreg`	`Jman, the unit could just use the omni light actor.`
`17:43.11`	`JManV`	`yeah, that's what i mean by "promote to unit"`
`17:43.24`	`JManV`	`create a new unit and attach the actor to it`
`17:43.51`	`JManV`	`all my building "block" are units. no doodads`
`17:43.58`	`JademusSreg`	`Why use a behavior, though? Unit type check would be sufficient.`
`17:44.00`	`JManV`	`so even the lights are units`
`17:44.00`	`Slaydon`	`kk, it would be way easier to check for the units aswell, no need for that region that shows the lights that permanently should be on :3`
`17:44.04`	`JManV`	`makes them easier to deal with`
`17:44.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, back to work.`
`17:44.31`	`JManV`	`and also, footprint fail :P`
`17:44.33`	`Slaydon`	`tyty :3`
`17:46.08`	`JManV`	`only problem will be replacing all those doodads as units :P`
`17:48.14`	`Slaydon`	`hmm`
`17:48.22`	`Slaydon`	`I dont have alot of omnis out rite now .p`
`17:48.49`	`JManV`	`oh ok`
`17:49.04`	`JManV`	`you have a small part of the map laid out right now`
`17:49.09`	`JManV`	`?`
`17:49.18`	`JManV`	`just planning for the future`
`17:53.36`	`zeta3`	`JademusSreg, when I "right click" an assimilator using a probe, is the triggered ordered 'Move' or 'Gather' for "Unit is Issued Order" purposes, or both?`
`17:54.52`	`JManV`	`prolly gather`
`17:55.22`	`zeta3`	`i think it might be both`
`17:55.38`	`zeta3`	`unless there's some virtual function`
`17:55.50`	`JManV`	`right clicking = "smart click" = attack if enemy unit, follow if ally unit, gather if mineral patch, move if nothing else`
`17:55.58`	`zeta3`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:56.05`	`Stimpy77_`	`Want to declare a condition that the triggering unit is an aircraft and not a ground unit. How?`
`17:56.17`	`JManV`	`you could put a simple trigger on a melee map to find out`
`17:56.54`	`JManV`	`unit is issued order > display order to UI`
`17:57.01`	`zeta3`	`its really weird JManV like when I right click on an assimilator it's gather, but if I queue the command - its not`
`17:57.23`	`zeta3`	`nm its hard to explain`
`17:57.36`	`JManV`	`are you trying to figure out how many workers are using?`
`17:57.43`	`deathnight114`	`http://soundcloud.com/deathnight114/hardstyle-my-style-remix`
`17:57.47`	`deathnight114`	`Hello everyone`
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`17:58.21`	`zeta3`	`yeah`
`17:58.49`	`Slaydon`	`I cant get omni lights to apply to units`
`17:59.06`	`JManV`	`you might need to change the actor type`
`17:59.07`	`Slaydon`	`seems like i need to live with lights on at day`
`17:59.10`	`Slaydon`	`i did`
`17:59.29`	`JManV`	`i made omnis into units`
`17:59.33`	`JManV`	`it can be done`
`17:59.40`	`Slaydon`	`O:`
`17:59.43`	`Slaydon`	`but, its fine tho`
`17:59.45`	`JManV`	`create a new unit actor and attach the model to it?`
`18:00.12`	`Slaydon`	`hmm`
`18:00.55`	`JManV`	`that's what i did`
`18:01.02`	`Slaydon`	`meh, it looks fine with the omnis at day`
`18:02.01`	`JademusSreg`	`I can think of a few ways I would handle it.`
`18:02.33`	`JManV`	`does it already do it?`
`18:02.37`	`JademusSreg`	`With just actors, I would have a few different actorscopes, and send messages to them as needed via trigger.`
`18:02.52`	`Slaydon`	`i kinda like it tho`
`18:03.49`	`JademusSreg`	`If I were working with units, I'd hold them in unitgroups, and use a Lights Out behavior to send a signal to toggle them. Or I could hide the units. And so forth.`
`18:06.16`	`zeta3`	`man finally i've set up the triggers to detect # of harvesters mining gas`
`18:06.17`	`zeta3`	`-_-`
`18:07.16`	`Slaydon`	`gz`
`18:07.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Congrats.`
`18:07.52`	`lomar`	`hey i got this error when initializing the map: Warning: CActorAction must be created with valid effect params.`
`18:08.02`	`lomar`	`anyone knows how to localize this error?`
`18:08.10`	`JademusSreg`	`Sounds neat.`
`18:08.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Something wrong with an Action class actor.`
`18:09.11`	`JademusSreg`	`Show me the ActorData.xml.`
`18:09.38`	`Slaydon`	`JademusSreg, do you think i should publish my Texture & Model Changer system? It is for RPG purposes.`
`18:09.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`18:09.51`	`JademusSreg`	`Sounds useful.`
`18:09.58`	`Slaydon`	`:b`
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`18:11.20`	`Slaydon`	`Tho its only for changing the appearance atm, still you get values for like, what items is being wielded and itemset, everything that is visible and not attachment friendly`
`18:11.52`	`Slaydon`	`So chest, shirt, bracers, hands, belt, legs, boots`
`18:12.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Sounds useful. =)`
`18:12.25`	`Slaydon`	`=p`
`18:12.52`	`JademusSreg`	`Your response is ambiguous.`
`18:13.21`	`Slaydon`	`ty i guess`
`18:14.05`	`JademusSreg`	`What response was expected of me in this situation?`
`18:14.56`	`Slaydon`	`i dno what ambiguous means`
`18:14.59`	`Slaydon`	`:\|`
`18:15.14`	`JademusSreg`	`http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ambiguous`
`18:16.15`	`Ashamed`	`good afternoon all`
`18:16.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Hi Ash. =D`
`18:16.28`	`Ashamed`	`hey jade where are you from ? i was just wondering`
`18:16.37`	`Slaydon`	`O:'`
`18:17.19`	`zeta3`	`is it possible to make mixed arrays ie. first dimension is of type unit, second dimension is of type integer`
`18:17.38`	`Slaydon`	`you can do that with structs`
`18:17.49`	`Ashamed`	`its ok jade you can tell me`
`18:18.00`	`Ashamed`	`i promise i aint a rapiest or anything`
`18:18.03`	`zeta3`	`without having to do galaxy :P`
`18:18.56`	`Slaydon`	`Records`
`18:19.16`	`zeta3`	`hrm no idea what those are`
`18:19.19`	`Ashamed`	`zeta i dont quite understand what you mean?? like just a normal integer array ?`
`18:19.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`18:19.47`	`Ashamed`	`and assigning each of them with differnt outcomes ?`
`18:19.53`	`zeta3`	`i basically need to create an array of vespene geysers belonging to player x that records the # of harvesting units for each vespene geyser :P`
`18:20.01`	`JademusSreg`	`With structs / Records, you are basically making your own variable type.`
`18:20.13`	`JManV`	`wow. even the 4v4 maps aren't 256x256`
`18:20.17`	`JademusSreg`	`And then you must declare variables which use that type.`
`18:20.36`	`Ashamed`	`ok so you need one to detect the number of refrineries , number of units ?? thats it`
`18:20.48`	`zeta3`	`no i need to be able to store them`
`18:20.50`	`Ashamed`	`yeah doesn't seem like that should be too hard`
`18:20.55`	`Ashamed`	`thats easy`
`18:21.03`	`Ashamed`	`you can us an interger array`
`18:21.04`	`Ashamed`	`for sure`
`18:21.28`	`Ashamed`	`you might have to mess around with it but i bet you can get it`
`18:22.06`	`Ashamed`	`let me open galexy .... :)`
`18:22.29`	`Ashamed`	`jadeemussreg where are you from ?`
`18:22.31`	`zeta3`	`well if i do structs, there would be 3 member variables, 1. player owner, 2. pointer to the refinery unit, 3. an integer`
`18:22.31`	`JManV`	`i was suddenly inspired to make the april fools map`
`18:22.57`	`JManV`	`but i want to get a map up to 256x256 and still have it feel "blizzardy"`
`18:23.20`	`JManV`	`so it can literally take 5 minutes for a scouting probe`
`18:23.42`	`Ashamed`	`so the wya i would do it honestly is i would have a variable that had an array for each of them 1-number of max players for all of them`
`18:23.48`	`Ashamed`	`or not all of htem`
`18:24.04`	`Ashamed`	`for the owner player`
`18:24.22`	`Ashamed`	`and somehow make it a trigger player trigger`
`18:24.32`	`Ashamed`	`so that number will automicly put the correct player in there`
`18:25.00`	`Ashamed`	`i gotta go feed the baby ><`
`18:25.10`	`Ashamed`	`i will check up in a minute to see what you got sorry .. lol`
`18:25.35`	`Helral\|Afk`	`meow`
`18:26.19`	`Ashamed`	`ok zeta for number of refrineries try to make it so whent hey are built it adds them in a player group`
`18:26.23`	`Ashamed`	`for triggering player`
`18:26.28`	`Ashamed`	`so you would make that a 2 array one`
`18:26.53`	`Ashamed`	`you can input number of units as a number for variables`
`18:27.04`	`Ashamed`	`so that will give you number of refrineries`
`18:27.07`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm in the NA region, Ash.`
`18:27.18`	`Ashamed`	`oh what state?`
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`18:27.39`	`Ashamed`	`you should be able to do that with harvesters too`
`18:27.43`	`zeta3`	`i'm doing a 15x15x15 integer array`
`18:27.58`	`JademusSreg`	`If you can guess what province or state I am in, I will confirm it.`
`18:28.01`	`Ashamed`	`by having the game add any unit to a player group if they do the harcest ability`
`18:28.09`	`Ashamed`	`jade shut up`
`18:28.12`	`Ashamed`	`i am from colorado`
`18:28.21`	`Ashamed`	`I for some reason didnt think you were american`
`18:28.24`	`Ashamed`	`mby canadian ?`
`18:28.45`	`Ashamed`	`zeta that make sense?`
`18:28.55`	`Ashamed`	`all of them methods should be able to get all of that info for you`
`18:28.58`	`zeta3`	`where [x][y][z], x= 1/0, 1 if assimilator is built, 0 if not, [y] = 1/2 for player number, [z] = number of workers`
`18:29.12`	`zeta3`	`i have a constructor that basically sets [x] to 1 if an assimilator is built`
`18:29.13`	`JademusSreg`	`O=`
`18:29.21`	`zeta3`	`and a destructor if an assimilator is destroyed`
`18:29.23`	`Ashamed`	`your american?`
`18:29.52`	`Ashamed`	`how is the trigger ran that verifies everything?`
`18:30.32`	`zeta3`	`i have a trigger that adds a harvester to gas if its mining from gas, and a trigger that removes a harvester from gas`
`18:30.36`	`JademusSreg`	`I do not enjoy talking about myself.`
`18:30.39`	`zeta3`	`trust me gas harvesting is quite a pain in the ass`
`18:30.52`	`Ashamed`	`JADE my wife was wondering lol`
`18:31.14`	`Ashamed`	`its because we don't very much like america and we want to talk to people and get other options`
`18:31.21`	`Ashamed`	`IBM is everywhere ><`
`18:31.38`	`Ashamed`	`zeta`
`18:31.40`	`Helral\|Afk`	`IBM still exists O.o ;p`
`18:31.45`	`Ashamed`	`that trigger you just told me makes no sense to me lol`
`18:31.55`	`zeta3`	`yeah`
`18:31.58`	`zeta3`	`i said it wrong`
`18:31.59`	`zeta3`	`lol`
`18:32.04`	`zeta3`	`i'm not thinking clearly`
`18:32.07`	`zeta3`	`i just thought about it some more`
`18:32.18`	`Ashamed`	`why do you need to add a harvester to gas if its mining for gas already ?`
`18:32.33`	`Slaydon`	`guys, what are these Tasteless Bot 2000 and Artosis Bot 2000`
`18:32.42`	`Slaydon`	`i clearly know who they are and i love them, but they are in the game`
`18:32.42`	`zeta3`	`i'm trying to replicated the "Current Harvesters" feature blizzard recently added`
`18:32.43`	`Slaydon`	`as units`
`18:32.45`	`Ashamed`	`GET RID OF THE SPIES`
`18:32.53`	`Ashamed`	`oh`
`18:32.57`	`Ashamed`	`they are units`
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`18:33.07`	`Ashamed`	`for just gas?`
`18:33.19`	`Ashamed`	`i have not seen this sorry >< i dont play sc rts no longer`
`18:33.53`	`zeta3`	`never mind its 3x10 array`
`18:33.58`	`Ashamed`	`but zata i am in a good mood today`
`18:34.08`	`zeta3`	`maybe 3x20`
`18:34.13`	`Ashamed`	`because it seems to me that you are making this a bit harder then it is`
`18:34.18`	`zeta3`	`i assume that a player won't make more than 20 assimilators a game`
`18:34.18`	`Ashamed`	`so let me go write up a trigger`
`18:34.47`	`zeta3`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/20307-get-number-of-units-currently-harvesting-gas-minerals/`
`18:34.51`	`zeta3`	`there is a thread here :P`
`18:35.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Time to go to the gym. bbl`
`18:36.20`	`zeta3`	`rofl i know`
`18:36.23`	`zeta3`	`custom value`
`18:36.26`	`zeta3`	`man i'm fucking retarded`
`18:36.38`	`zeta3`	`basically my struct right there`
`18:39.13`	`Slaydon`	`What is the meaning of Tasteless Bot 2000 and Artosis Bot 2000? They are units in the editor, but there is no sound for them, it would be awesome if they would add a text to speech with tastosis :d`
`18:40.39`	`LordAbyss`	`~seen ProzaicMuze`
`18:40.54`	`purl`	`prozaicmuze is currently on #sc2mapster (9h 2m 41s). Has said a total of 41 messages. Is idling for 8h 16m 31s, last said: 'GO die'.`
`18:41.10`	`Slaydon`	`O:`
`18:44.22`	`Slaydon`	`purl, what is Tasteless Bot 2000`
`18:44.22`	`purl`	`I think you lost me on that one, Slaydon`
`18:44.48`	`Stimpy77_`	`in a trigger condition, how do I determine whether a unit is an air unit or not?`
`18:44.55`	`Stimpy77_`	`I tried height < 0.5`
`18:46.47`	`Ashamed`	`i believe there is a unit type one`
`18:47.40`	`Stimpy77_`	`yeah I didn't find one .. closest match I could find was (under Unit Flag) "AI - Threat (Air)"`
`18:48.19`	`Ashamed`	`zeta`
`18:48.34`	`Kueken`	`stimpy`
`18:48.35`	`Ashamed`	`i think i figured it out with like two triggers give me afew more minute`
`18:48.43`	`Kueken`	`what about using a unit filter match?`
`18:49.21`	`Stimpy77_`	`ah this looks different (unit filter match) .. ty`
`18:49.25`	`Stimpy77_`	`I hadn't seen this one`
`18:49.30`	`Kueken`	`:)`
`18:49.37`	`Stimpy77_`	`but ..`
`18:49.53`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. not sure how to use it .. I have a single unit triggering this trigger w/ an "enter region" event`
`18:50.26`	`A1win`	`hmm... I suppose I should scrap the concept of allowing players to join multiple missions, it's just too much of a hazzle... I just need to redesign the system a bit, which is why I didn't like the idea of doing so :P`
`18:50.31`	`Stimpy77_`	`just exclude all and make Air allowed?`
`18:50.39`	`Kueken`	`something like that :)`
`18:50.46`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. or rather make air Excluded if vice-versa`
`18:50.56`	`A1win`	`maybe I could make some kind of a "mini game" for players who have died on a mission and need something to do`
`18:51.00`	`Kueken`	`this will determine, if the unit is actually targeted as air`
`18:51.00`	`Stimpy77_`	`and this will return boolean?`
`18:51.03`	`Kueken`	`yes`
`18:51.05`	`A1win`	`and I have an idea for that already...`
`18:51.31`	`Kueken`	`there are other ways of "being an air unit" though`
`18:51.38`	`Kueken`	`like having an air type mover`
`18:51.42`	`Kueken`	`or collision`
`18:51.55`	`Stimpy77_`	`ok but I'll try this one .. ty .. testing now`
`18:54.14`	`zeta3`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:54.46`	`zeta3`	`o wait nm`
`18:56.49`	`Stimpy77_`	`galaxy boolean is bool, not Boolean or something else right?`
`18:57.43`	`zeta3`	`if I have a bunch of if else clauses that branch off into different conditional tests, etc. but they all end up doing the same action if it passes, is there a way to have to define the action once as oppose to having to copy and paste into every instance?`
`18:59.07`	`zeta3`	`http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/589021/ should highlight waht i mean`
`18:59.32`	`zeta3`	`i use the same set of actions over an over again but in eed to copy and paste them`
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`19:07.33`	`tordy`	`waddup!!!!!!!`
`19:07.49`	`Hati`	`Nothing.`
`19:08.03`	`tordy`	`anything big in mappin goin on!?`
`19:08.06`	`tordy`	`what did i miss!?`
`19:08.08`	`tordy`	`ARHGHGHHGHGHG`
`19:13.26`	`Ashamed`	`zeta`
`19:13.28`	`Ashamed`	`you there?`
`19:13.33`	`Ashamed`	`i got it pretty good :)`
`19:13.41`	`Ashamed`	`it works fast too`
`19:13.47`	`Ashamed`	`i just have to add just gas to it`
`19:13.52`	`Ashamed`	`becuase currently it detects both`
`19:16.36`	`zeta3`	`hm`
`19:16.39`	`zeta3`	`how did you do it`
`19:16.42`	`Ashamed`	`zeta`
`19:16.50`	`Ashamed`	`i need to go start the car and stuff`
`19:16.59`	`Ashamed`	`dont use any of the other peeps ideas trust me :) i am almost done`
`19:17.11`	`zeta3`	`lol k`
`19:20.32`	`zeta3`	`do custom values start at 0 or 1`
`19:22.48`	`JManV`	`0`
`19:24.55`	`zeta3`	`thanks`
`19:27.04`	`Ashamed`	`ok zeta`
`19:27.05`	`Ashamed`	`:)`
`19:27.12`	`Ashamed`	`its kinda odd how i did it`
`19:27.20`	`Ashamed`	`and i only did the trigger for detecting gas makers`
`19:27.31`	`Ashamed`	`for only scvs since tech there is 3 differnt gather spells`
`19:27.33`	`Ashamed`	`for each race`
`19:27.39`	`Ashamed`	`but you should be able to do all of that`
`19:27.49`	`Ashamed`	`if not just let me know let me put the map on my server so you can dl it`
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`19:28.48`	`zeta3`	`hm`
`19:29.01`	`zeta3`	`detecting gas makers`
`19:29.03`	`zeta3`	`?`
`19:31.04`	`Ashamed`	`we will see how fast my server lets you dl`
`19:31.05`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`19:31.06`	`Ashamed`	`http://67.173.241.220:8080/Maps/harvest.SC2Map`
`19:31.49`	`Ashamed`	`you get it ?`
`19:31.58`	`zeta3`	`....`
`19:32.02`	`zeta3`	`this doesn't even come close`
`19:32.02`	`zeta3`	`lol`
`19:32.07`	`Ashamed`	`yes it does`
`19:32.09`	`Ashamed`	`do the thing`
`19:32.19`	`Ashamed`	`IT detects the exact amount of units just harvesting gas`
`19:32.27`	`Ashamed`	`to the T`
`19:32.28`	`zeta3`	`that's easy to do`
`19:32.30`	`Ashamed`	`instantly`
`19:32.44`	`zeta3`	`the hard part is`
`19:32.48`	`zeta3`	`counting which geysers are unsaturated`
`19:33.08`	`Ashamed`	`that dont have refrineries on them?`
`19:33.17`	`zeta3`	`no unsatruation means`
`19:33.34`	`zeta3`	`which refineries don't have exactly 3 workers mining from them`
`19:33.49`	`Ashamed`	`has not been harvested?`
`19:33.52`	`zeta3`	`no`
`19:34.00`	`Ashamed`	`oh`
`19:34.02`	`zeta3`	`you can fit 3 harvesters`
`19:34.05`	`zeta3`	`per refinery`
`19:34.10`	`zeta3`	`to achieve optimal saturation`
`19:34.28`	`zeta3`	`which refineries don't have 3 harvesters harvesting`
`19:36.11`	`Ashamed`	`oh that would be kinda easy`
`19:36.23`	`Ashamed`	`you might have to have alot more triggers lol`
`19:36.34`	`zeta3`	`it's`
`19:36.35`	`zeta3`	`non-trivial`
`19:36.48`	`zeta3`	`because you need to test for a lot of cases`
`19:36.58`	`zeta3`	`like you'd think`
`19:36.59`	`Ashamed`	`you would wnat to create a unit group for each refineray the problem though is you would have to create a trigger for each unit in the group`
`19:37.04`	`Ashamed`	`i dont know how you would make a loop`
`19:37.29`	`Ashamed`	`so you would use my trigger`
`19:37.34`	`Ashamed`	`but instead of saying unit owned by player 1`
`19:37.38`	`Ashamed`	`you would say unit = unit 1`
`19:37.41`	`Ashamed`	`unit = unit 2`
`19:37.44`	`Ashamed`	`unit = unit 3`
`19:37.47`	`Ashamed`	`from group refineray`
`19:38.02`	`Ashamed`	`and then you would add an integer for an aray you had`
`19:38.03`	`zeta3`	`huh?`
`19:38.07`	`Ashamed`	`for that unit in that unit group`
`19:38.21`	`Ashamed`	`and you would have a trigger check that intger to see if its over 3`
`19:38.29`	`Ashamed`	`if its over 3 then you have more then 3 harvesters on it`
`19:38.32`	`zeta3`	`thats' not the hardpart`
`19:38.37`	`zeta3`	`its detecting`
`19:38.42`	`zeta3`	`when a unit is harvesting from a refinery`
`19:38.42`	`Ashamed`	`I just told oyu`
`19:38.43`	`zeta3`	`or not`
`19:38.47`	`Ashamed`	`[13:37] <Ashamed> unit = unit 2`
`19:38.56`	`Ashamed`	`I already didx that homie G`
`19:39.10`	`Ashamed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`19:39.15`	`Ashamed`	`that did that but instead of using htat`
`19:39.27`	`Ashamed`	`you are going to have to put the refinerays all in a unit group`
`19:39.28`	`zeta3`	`sry i think you're just confusing me more`
`19:39.36`	`Ashamed`	`and do the trigger for each refineray`
`19:39.47`	`Ashamed`	`i am not zeta I promise you it will work`
`19:40.05`	`Ashamed`	`i will show you at a small scale`
`19:40.06`	`Ashamed`	`ok`
`19:40.07`	`zeta3`	`sorry i dont understand you at all anymore`
`19:40.19`	`zeta3`	`and i really dont want to use events driven in 0.00001`
`19:40.22`	`zeta3`	`game seconds`
`19:40.24`	`zeta3`	`its reallly bad practice`
`19:40.30`	`Ashamed`	`like i said the issue with this is i dunno how you would do it in a loop so you would have to create a trigger for each refinery`
`19:40.43`	`Ashamed`	`you dont need to`
`19:40.53`	`Ashamed`	`thats wht i did just to fucking show you how many units are doing something`
`19:41.11`	`Ashamed`	`what ever trigger you are using for the player to find this out`
`19:41.19`	`Ashamed`	`thats where that goes`
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`19:41.41`	`Ashamed`	`did you even test the map??`
`19:42.13`	`zeta3`	`i dont need to test the map to know how your triggesr work`
`19:42.17`	`zeta3`	`i looked at thet riggers`
`19:42.22`	`Ashamed`	`well you obv dont`
`19:42.27`	`Ashamed`	`what does that .0001 do ?`
`19:42.47`	`zeta3`	`you dont know`
`19:42.48`	`zeta3`	`which source`
`19:42.50`	`zeta3`	`the gas came from`
`19:42.53`	`Ashamed`	`that has nothing to even do with the trigger i just added that so i could show you what its doing in the background`
`19:42.54`	`Ashamed`	`good job`
`19:42.55`	`zeta3`	`which refinery`
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`19:43.08`	`Ashamed`	`I know`
`19:43.13`	`Ashamed`	`i just fucking told you how to do that though`
`19:43.20`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Know what ;0`
`19:43.41`	`Ashamed`	`what ever zeta you are asking for something that isn't going to be easy... and you are getting upset because i am not giving you an easy answer`
`19:43.51`	`Ashamed`	`you cna figure it out yourself :) even though i have already done it`
`19:44.22`	`Ashamed`	`good luck`
`19:44.26`	`zeta3`	`look with your method you would need to instantiate a refinery each time it is built, make a new unit group for each newly built refinery, you would need to destroy the refinery if a player kills the refinery`
`19:44.36`	`zeta3`	`you'd need detection triggers etc.`
`19:44.39`	`zeta3`	`it's not practical`
`19:44.42`	`Ashamed`	`no you won;dnt`
`19:44.51`	`Ashamed`	`you need to make the detction trigger`
`19:44.54`	`Ashamed`	`i dont know how you want it`
`19:44.56`	`Ashamed`	`in YOUR MAP`
`19:45.12`	`Ashamed`	`I Just created the fucken trigger for behind your triggers i am not going to code the entire thing for oyu`
`19:45.27`	`Ashamed`	`and i was going to help with the detection of which refinery`
`19:45.37`	`Ashamed`	`which wouldn't of taken me more then a few minutes... but you can figure it out :)`
`19:49.54`	`Jack[RCDF`	`I see ashamed is being as helpful as ever...`
`19:50.44`	`Ashamed`	`yep :)`
`19:55.05`	`Helral`	`meow`
`19:55.41`	`Helral`	`Sixen alive yet? ;p`
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`19:56.14`	`Sixen`	`mebe`
`19:56.26`	`Helral`	`I've started on another UI tutorial ;p`
`19:56.28`	`Helral`	`http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/20323-sc2layout-files-override-method-aiurchef-method/?unread`
`19:56.54`	`zeta3`	`is there a simple comparison of two units to see if they are the same unit?>`
`19:57.05`	`Helral`	`Unit A == Unit B.`
`19:57.05`	`Sixen`	`oh sweetness Helral :D`
`19:57.42`	`Helral`	`:P`
`19:58.11`	`Helral`	`promised someone I'd build him an UI, so I made that tutorial while doing some UI stuff for him ;p`
`19:58.18`	`zeta3`	`thanks`
`19:58.52`	`Jack[RCDF`	`http://www.vgshorts.com/index.php?act=comic&id=8`
`19:59.39`	`zeta3`	`Is there a way to retrieve the current refinery or mineral a unit is harvesting from?`
`19:59.57`	`Helral`	`get units order`
`20:00.01`	`Helral`	`gat target for order`
`20:00.15`	`Helral`	`just make sure the order is harvest and not return cargo ;p`
`20:01.19`	`tordy`	`g-uinit!`
`20:01.44`	`Jack[RCDF`	`So if the unit is heading back to the CC you can't detect the current refinery?`
`20:01.59`	`Helral`	`dunno, maybe by getting the second order.`
`20:02.09`	`Helral`	`never tested it`
`20:03.45`	`Ashamed`	`zeta i am still looking at it and it will be easy to do all the triggering when they are harvesting`
`20:03.51`	`Ashamed`	`but just like helral is saying its when they stop`
`20:03.58`	`Ashamed`	`thats going to be the hard part`
`20:04.06`	`Ashamed`	`because to stop them it requires a differnt order`
`20:04.08`	`zeta3`	`anyone know how info panels work`
`20:04.14`	`XenoX101`	`hey does anyone know Random Micro Challenge`
`20:04.18`	`Ashamed`	`and that order is no longer targeting the refineray`
`20:04.33`	`XenoX101`	`and like the person who made it`
`20:04.34`	`zeta3`	`I'm going to try to directly extract the number`
`20:04.36`	`zeta3`	`from the info panel`
`20:04.40`	`XenoX101`	`cause its a great map but it has some serious issues`
`20:04.47`	`Ashamed`	`that might work`
`20:04.48`	`Helral`	`Ashamed: allow return cargo order to cc as a way yo keep harvestcounter.`
`20:04.51`	`Ashamed`	`that number is somewhere inside sc`
`20:05.02`	`Ashamed`	`i got the counter helral`
`20:05.06`	`Ashamed`	`i am talking about when they are done`
`20:05.13`	`Helral`	`unit becomes idle`
`20:05.21`	`Ashamed`	`i got it detecting the exact amount of gas harvesters`
`20:05.35`	`Ashamed`	`but the problem is he wants it to detect which refineray it came from`
`20:05.59`	`Ashamed`	`and once the unit goes idel you dont know what refinary he came from`
`20:06.19`	`Ashamed`	`becasue he wants it to tell you if more then 3 units are at a certain refinary`
`20:06.22`	`Helral`	`Ashamed you can know`
`20:06.27`	`Helral`	`use 2 custom values`
`20:06.31`	`Ashamed`	`and i can get it all on the harvest trigger`
`20:06.34`	`zeta3`	`ok: very simple end goal: suppose i have 20 different refineries, some of them have 1 harvester, some have 5, some have non, etc. I want to be able to form a unit group with every refinery that doesn't have exactly 3 harvesters`
`20:06.56`	`Helral`	`1 is setting/retrieving an unique refinery id, the other is storing that uniq id on the worker.`
`20:07.20`	`Ashamed`	`how would he do it helral i can get it all the way up to the harvesting end`
`20:07.27`	`Ashamed`	`even to detect which refineray it is`
`20:07.35`	`Ashamed`	`and to detect the amount of units on it`
`20:07.47`	`Ashamed`	`but once the unit stops thats where i am having an issue i can get the game to detect the unit stop`
`20:07.53`	`zeta3`	`Helral, the thing with assigning IDs is - it works well if i only have a fixed number of refineries`
`20:07.59`	`Ashamed`	`but not from which refineray he came from and the number of units on that refinary`
`20:08.01`	`zeta3`	`but in a game where refineries are being made`
`20:08.05`	`zeta3`	`and destroyed`
`20:08.11`	`lomar`	`anyone knows if points around 100 can increase the map loading time?`
`20:08.17`	`zeta3`	`its hard to keep track of the IDs dynamically`
`20:08.21`	`Helral`	`zeta3: you can store 31^2 amount of refineries.`
`20:08.23`	`Ashamed`	`i think the refineray still counts at its resource end zeta`
`20:08.24`	`Helral`	`do you need more?`
`20:08.29`	`Ashamed`	`but i am not sure`
`20:08.40`	`Stimpy77_`	`do you guys usually lock your maps when in beta?`
`20:08.50`	`Ashamed`	`like if someone builds over that refineray it doens't change`
`20:08.52`	`tordy`	`ren & stimpy`
`20:08.53`	`Ashamed`	`its still the same unit`
`20:08.57`	`Ashamed`	`a player just owns it now`
`20:09.04`	`Ashamed`	`but i am not sure about that`
`20:09.18`	`Helral`	`Ashamed: I think it's a new unit.`
`20:09.19`	`zeta3`	`anyways i'm gonna put my effort into finding info panel`
`20:09.20`	`zeta3`	`s`
`20:09.34`	`zeta3`	`any idea how the unit panel/info panel`
`20:09.35`	`zeta3`	`is stored?`
`20:09.52`	`Helral`	`it just uses the vespeyne geyser below it (which also still exists, but is hidden like a zerg drone that builds a building.)`
`20:09.53`	`zeta3`	`like unit kills is part of the unit panel`
`20:11.45`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Fresh (5dd7e3ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.215.227.186)`
`20:11.58`	`Fresh`	`hello`
`20:12.16`	`tordy`	`viridian city!!`
`20:13.02`	`zeta3`	`?`
`20:13.16`	`zeta3`	`is there a tutorial`
`20:13.18`	`zeta3`	`on info panels`
`20:13.20`	`*** join/#sc2mapster FreshPrince (5dd7e3ba@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.215.227.186)`
`20:13.22`	`Ashamed`	`zeta yeah i seew hat you are syaing`
`20:13.32`	`Ashamed`	`give me a second elet me see i fi can find it`
`20:13.43`	`FreshPrince`	`Hello can u see what im writing?`
`20:14.29`	`Stimpy77_`	`No we can't`
`20:14.56`	`FreshPrince`	`ok nice can someone help me i got a problem with my map ^^`
`20:17.13`	`Helral`	`meow`
`20:17.51`	`Helral`	`Sixen you need to put that line back in the channel topic`
`20:18.31`	`Helral`	`"don't ask to ask but ask" <-- that line ;p`
`20:19.01`	`Ashamed`	`zeta i dont think you can :(`
`20:19.10`	`Ashamed`	`because kills is under unit properties`
`20:19.24`	`Ashamed`	`but i do not see the amount of harvesters nor do i know even where blizzard put that ><`
`20:20.39`	`zeta3`	`yeah`
`20:21.17`	`zeta3`	`my triggers actually work for all cases except for the one where you issue a unit currently harvesting from one refinery to harvest at another`
`20:21.35`	`tordy`	`where JManV`
`20:22.30`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`20:23.04`	`Helral`	`:P`
`20:23.09`	`Helral`	`well it's true isn't it Sixen ;p`
`20:23.24`	`tordy`	`bulbasaur!!!`
`20:23.34`	`Helral`	`I wonder if FreshPrince noticed I was talking about him.`
`20:24.19`	`Xaragoth`	`sixen`
`20:24.26`	`Xaragoth`	`i'll now add the crabby to anyone on the forums`
`20:24.28`	`Xaragoth`	`TRY TO STOP ME`
`20:24.34`	`FreshPrince`	`sec pls`
`20:24.44`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`20:24.55`	`Xaragoth`	`or maybe we should just add porn`
`20:24.58`	`Xaragoth`	`that would work too`
`20:24.59`	`tordy`	`PIDGEY`
`20:25.15`	`Helral`	`lol`
`20:25.26`	`Helral`	`Xaragoth try adding UI tutorials ;p`
`20:26.03`	`Xaragoth`	`that doesn't sound like it'll make me be less bored :O`
`20:26.40`	`Xaragoth`	`spend the entire day`
`20:26.42`	`Xaragoth`	`finding out`
`20:26.44`	`Xaragoth`	`that and-gates in udk`
`20:26.46`	`Xaragoth`	`only work ONCE`
`20:26.52`	`Xaragoth`	`WHY?! Nobody knows.`
`20:26.53`	`FreshPrince`	`ok here is my trigger i know its german =/ but i hope someone can help me : http://img717.imageshack.us/f/triggerd.jpg/`
`20:28.11`	`Mephs`	`crabby is cute but he blocks the reply button perfectly`
`20:28.19`	`Xaragoth`	`I know`
`20:28.22`	`Xaragoth`	`it's great`
`20:28.28`	`Xaragoth`	`how about we turn the reply button into a pair of tits`
`20:28.30`	`Xaragoth`	`would that help?`
`20:28.35`	`Mephs`	`if by great, you mean faggotry.`
`20:28.36`	`Mephs`	`sure`
`20:28.53`	`Helral`	`FreshPrince: could you hit ctrl+d and make a new screenshot`
`20:29.22`	`Xaragoth`	`great`
`20:29.31`	`Xaragoth`	`now let me make sure you always have crabby with you mephs`
`20:30.01`	`Mephs`	`you can just hide flash elements in chrome you know`
`20:30.17`	`zeta3`	`Helral, can custom values be not just integers? say custom value is instead a unit?`
`20:30.19`	`Mephs`	`kinda defeats the purpose :p`
`20:30.35`	`FreshPrince`	`Helral: kk`
`20:30.51`	`Xaragoth`	`chrome`
`20:31.01`	`Xaragoth`	`wasn't that the browser for people who don't like privacy?`
`20:31.02`	`Xaragoth`	`:p`
`20:31.42`	`Mephs`	`implying that your browsing is private on any browser`
`20:31.59`	`zeta3`	`any ideas if you can have custom values be other data types`
`20:32.08`	`Xaragoth`	`at least it doesn't report directly to google that you just went to google.com :D`
`20:32.18`	`Mephs`	`my life is over`
`20:32.22`	`Mephs`	`i'm going to go post this on my facebook`
`20:32.41`	`FreshPrince`	`k here it is :http://img833.imageshack.us/f/triggery.jpg/`
`20:32.50`	`Xaragoth`	`you know`
`20:32.52`	`Xaragoth`	`we have a parser`
`20:32.55`	`Xaragoth`	`just sayin'`
`20:33.34`	`zeta3`	`is it possible to retrieve a unit's index in a unit group?`
`20:33.37`	`zeta3`	`or are unit groups unordered`
`20:33.40`	`Mephs`	`okay? lol`
`20:34.03`	`zeta3`	`...`
`20:34.20`	`Mephs`	`so do you just throw out random words or do you actually know what a parser is, or what you are parsing?`
`20:34.53`	`Mephs`	`cuz i just parsed the shit out of some bacon and all.`
`20:35.01`	`tordy`	`i parsed ur mom`
`20:35.07`	`Mephs`	`hi tordy`
`20:35.08`	`Helral`	`FreshPrince: why not create the first TextTag in the else statement, and not before the if statement?`
`20:35.10`	`tordy`	`hello`
`20:35.16`	`zeta3`	`i hate using unit arrays becuase it doesn't take care of indices or re-order them etc. when a unit is killed`
`20:36.28`	`zeta3`	`is there even a function that returns the index of an element of an array?`
`20:36.58`	`Helral`	`FreshPrince: that way you don't have to destroy that first texttag.`
`20:37.43`	`Helral`	`FreshPrince: ow you trigger is wrong basicly.`
`20:37.47`	`Helral`	`your*`
`20:38.20`	`FreshPrince`	`@Helral Im a bit confused now whats wron`
`20:38.21`	`Helral`	`what you have there is: if(kills==5){create Tag; if(kills==10){create tag}}`
`20:38.34`	`Helral`	`FreshPrince: so basicly it only runs the trigger at 5 kills.`
`20:38.47`	`Helral`	`and not at 10 because it checks on 5 kills first.`
`20:39.25`	`Helral`	`Mephs: why am I not in your list of the 10 best mappers on bnet? grins ;p`
`20:39.45`	`FreshPrince`	`ah okey =7 so how i have to do it now?`
`20:39.48`	`Mephs`	`did you ever make a map yet helral?`
`20:40.07`	`Helral`	`well not one that is on bnet yet. but your nr4 didn't release any maps either ;p`
`20:40.11`	`*** join/#sc2mapster PsypherLocke (~Scott@pool-173-67-43-57.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net)`
`20:40.29`	`Helral`	`just search for my RDM on sc2mapster ;p`
`20:41.04`	`Helral`	`FreshPrince: hmmmm`
`20:41.15`	`Mephs`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSRildGCw64&feature=player_detailpage#t=5s`
`20:42.01`	`Mephs`	`you should stop helping noobs with all that you have learned and actually make something`
`20:42.36`	`Mephs`	`or you may mysteriously disappear like that prozaicmuze guy`
`20:42.37`	`Helral`	`Mephs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVApkoxdqqo , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNMTdJs3ZRY`
`20:43.01`	`Mephs`	`i mean like a game`
`20:43.04`	`Helral`	`2 short movies of my map in production ;p`
`20:43.09`	`Mephs`	`oh ok :p`
`20:43.27`	`Stimpy77_`	`do you guys usually lock your maps when in beta?`
`20:43.44`	`Helral`	`my map is opensourced, anyone can see my coding and I don't mind.`
`20:43.49`	`Mephs`	`i lock mine`
`20:43.58`	`Mephs`	`can't have you filthy peons touching my divine code`
`20:44.12`	`PsypherLocke`	`Anyone made a video tutorial for the site?`
`20:44.37`	`Stimpy77_`	`damn`
`20:44.47`	`Stimpy77_`	`between the two of you I'm still stuck in my dilemma`
`20:44.56`	`Stimpy77_`	`do I lock or no? sob`
`20:45.00`	`PsypherLocke`	`I have fraps, but not much luck doing a good video in the editor`
`20:45.01`	`Stimpy77_`	`cries a little`
`20:45.09`	`PsypherLocke`	`well i heard they can unlock maps`
`20:45.12`	`Mephs`	`if you lock it just makes people have to try harder to see your trigger code.`
`20:45.13`	`PsypherLocke`	`so it doesn't really matter`
`20:45.19`	`Mephs`	`its by no means safe, but do it anyway`
`20:45.20`	`Helral`	`FreshPrince: you need to somehow store the text tag and to which unit it is linked (if 1 player can have multiple units)`
`20:45.25`	`Mephs`	`if you want to share your code openly then unlock`
`20:46.03`	`PsypherLocke`	`Well new tutorial posted, gotta figure out how to make a video`
`20:47.07`	`FreshPrince`	`so i have to do variables?`
`20:47.24`	`Mephs`	`so i finally figured out that one idea from a few months back`
`20:47.29`	`Mephs`	`just now started tinkering with it again`
`20:47.40`	`Helral`	`FreshPrince: basicly to get the trigger to work a little bit more like you want you need to add an or statement to the first conditions bit (Or - 5kills, 10kills), and then an if/then/else statement with the kills==5 which contains the first bit of triggering.`
`20:47.48`	`Mephs`	`how to create dynamic water logic in a complete terrain deforming game`
`20:48.18`	`Mephs`	`its kind of wonky though because of the editor's fail water mechanics`
`20:48.36`	`Mephs`	`but you can create pockets in the terrain and it will fill just those pockets up with water`
`20:48.49`	`Helral`	`FreshPrince: so you code would be like If(Kills==5)Then{Actions}Else{do nothing} If(kills==10)Then{Actions}Else{do nothing}`
`20:49.21`	`Mephs`	`then if you punch more holes in the ground to make like a river leading out from your pond it'll lower the water level slightly and fill the new pockets`
`20:49.23`	`FreshPrince`	`k i try it now and thank you man :)`
`20:49.29`	`Helral`	`and at the conditions bit at the top you'd have: Or{Kills==5;Kills==10} (both as conditions that are part of the or statement.`
`20:50.16`	`Helral`	`Mephs: did you check the 2 movies?`
`20:52.26`	`Mephs`	`yah now i remember`
`20:52.48`	`Helral`	`:)`
`20:52.49`	`Mephs`	`didn't know the random dungeon generator was yours lol`
`20:52.53`	`Helral`	`lol`
`20:53.00`	`Helral`	`Helral's Random Dungeon Generator :)`
`20:53.01`	`Mephs`	`be interesting to see what you make with it`
`20:53.06`	`tordy`	`helral`
`20:53.08`	`tordy`	`meow! :)`
`20:53.11`	`Helral`	`meow`
`20:53.44`	`Ashamed`	`i know i gotta get a map released too lol`
`20:55.43`	`Helral`	`hehehe so do I ;p`
`20:55.50`	`Helral`	`I made some short fun maps ;p`
`20:56.02`	`Mephs`	`i want to make that terrain deformer as a side project`
`20:56.07`	`Mephs`	`when i find the time`
`20:56.19`	`Ashamed`	`i can pretty much get anything i want done in the trigger editor by now... and still have not released anything`
`20:56.55`	`Helral`	`Ashamed: I could do that during beta ;p and I still have not released anything.`
`20:57.00`	`Ashamed`	`I am going to release a td i think >< i thought of an interresting one that actually will keep you on your toes`
`20:57.06`	`Ashamed`	`yeah me too helral`
`20:57.07`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`20:57.12`	`Ashamed`	`i got good with the triggers fast`
`20:57.22`	`Ashamed`	`like 2 weeks`
`20:57.41`	`Helral`	`I released a td on war3. dunno if it got played though.`
`20:57.52`	`Ashamed`	`the td i got is going to be good :)`
`20:57.57`	`Ashamed`	`i will tell you the idea`
`20:58.00`	`Mephs`	`there is no such thing as a td that is good`
`20:58.06`	`Ashamed`	`so i made it a 7x7 grid of just paths`
`20:58.20`	`Ashamed`	`and i made it so the units all randomly choose differnt paths`
`20:58.29`	`Ashamed`	`so they can go everywhere :)`
`20:58.34`	`Helral`	`think it was Chaos or Random TD ;p can't remember the exact name`
`20:58.45`	`Helral`	`it was a simple line TD setup with 1 random race.`
`20:58.50`	`Ashamed`	`and you can build blockers and stuff to try to controle the units`
`20:58.56`	`Ashamed`	`but other then that you cant build on the paths`
`20:59.12`	`Ashamed`	`since its like that they dont have any destinations`
`20:59.21`	`Ashamed`	`so i also made it so each unit is spawned with their own timer`
`20:59.33`	`Ashamed`	`so everytime a unit spawns it has 30 seconds before you need to kill it or w/e`
`20:59.52`	`Ashamed`	`with that :) i even made a time tower that will give you more time per unit it attacks`
`20:59.56`	`Ashamed`	`and i also created this chain system`
`21:00.10`	`Ashamed`	`and if you are killing a certain number of units with in a certain amount of time`
`21:00.17`	`Helral`	`Dark Tower Defense even ;p`
`21:00.31`	`Ashamed`	`takes about 45 seconds at kill a unit every second to get to 5 chain`
`21:00.37`	`Helral`	`I never got it past beta I guess.`
`21:00.38`	`Ashamed`	`but you get more minerals and awards if you can get chains`
`21:01.07`	`Ashamed`	`thats the jist of teh td i am trying to create`
`21:01.15`	`Ashamed`	`i just need to create towers`
`21:01.18`	`Ashamed`	`damn you data editor!`
`21:01.23`	`Helral`	`well I had 4.5k downloads in total of my war3 TD map :)`
`21:01.41`	`Ashamed`	`i will show you video one second`
`21:02.52`	`Ashamed`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0fHjXD1oag&feature=related`
`21:02.56`	`Ashamed`	`thats of the chain system`
`21:06.08`	`Ashamed`	`awesome i know :)`
`21:06.54`	`Ashamed`	`say it melral`
`21:06.57`	`Ashamed`	`helral`
`21:06.59`	`Ashamed`	`you know its awesome`
`21:07.20`	`Ashamed`	`MEOW NOW`
`21:07.24`	`Mephs`	`whats going on in the video exactly`
`21:07.43`	`FreshPrince`	`Helral its still not working wie the texttag : http://img220.imageshack.us/f/triggerg.jpg/`
`21:08.03`	`Ashamed`	`the chain`
`21:08.10`	`Ashamed`	`read what i am typing`
`21:08.12`	`Ashamed`	`i explain it all`
`21:08.32`	`Ashamed`	`its sometimes hard to see the chain number because of all teh action`
`21:09.32`	`Ashamed`	`i am thinking some chain X1 X2 X3 X4 X5 thing but i have not gotten to that yet`
`21:09.44`	`Mephs`	`mm`
`21:10.02`	`Ashamed`	`i want like a cool graphic like in the fighting games when it counts chains`
`21:10.21`	Mephs`afk	`so make one`
`21:10.25`	Mephs`afk	`not hard`
`21:10.37`	`Ashamed`	`i am going to :)`
`21:10.40`	Mephs`afk	`best way to go would be to make a graphic for every #`
`21:10.42`	`Ashamed`	`just have not gotten that far`
`21:10.51`	`Ashamed`	`yeah thats what i was going to do`
`21:10.56`	Mephs`afk	`yah`
`21:10.59`	`Ashamed`	`but you get the method ?`
`21:11.04`	Mephs`afk	`yeah`
`21:11.11`	`zeta3`	`if i a building finishes construction`
`21:11.15`	Mephs`afk	`its a multi kill sort of`
`21:11.19`	`zeta3`	`what event detect it?`
`21:11.20`	`Helral`	`was afk for just a moment there ;p`
`21:11.27`	`Ashamed`	`i just thought it would be cool to award people for how fast they can kill the units`
`21:11.31`	`zeta3`	`unit is created or any unit construction progress is Completed?`
`21:11.38`	Mephs`afk	`i use similar system for dual/triple kill in my game`
`21:11.40`	`FreshPrince`	`ah kk i sended a link Helral`
`21:11.50`	`Ashamed`	`i have never seen it in a TD.... but it seems like something that i think someone would of though of by now... but i have not seen it`
`21:12.04`	`Ashamed`	`is it a td?`
`21:12.05`	Mephs`afk	`idk i figured tds were just copy/pastes of each other`
`21:12.10`	Mephs`afk	`whaaat?`
`21:12.13`	Mephs`afk	`ew god no`
`21:12.18`	`Ashamed`	`i am going to make this one hard`
`21:12.21`	Mephs`afk	`that'd mean i had some kind of brain disease`
`21:12.24`	`Ashamed`	`like you can't just sit in one spot`
`21:12.47`	`Ashamed`	`you saying i have a brain disease?`
`21:12.58`	`Ashamed`	`i am going to make a vs and everything :)`
`21:13.13`	Mephs`afk	`TD developers are somewhere in the food chain below web designers and fast food employees.`
`21:13.24`	`Ashamed`	`i am a web desinger`
`21:13.29`	`Ashamed`	`and a graphic designer too`
`21:13.32`	Mephs`afk	`ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.`
`21:13.39`	Mephs`afk	`web designers :(`
`21:13.40`	`Ashamed`	`and i write scripts :)`
`21:13.43`	Mephs`afk	`djsafl;jkla`
`21:13.47`	Mephs`afk	`my brain is about to implode`
`21:13.50`	Mephs`afk	`bbl`
`21:14.18`	`Ashamed`	`i am also over see about 200 agents at my IT job " Their software/hardware "`
`21:14.23`	`Ashamed`	`:0`
`21:14.29`	`Ashamed`	`i also*`
`21:14.30`	`Helral`	`FreshPrince: I assume the +Or at top contains both the conditions in the if statements.`
`21:15.56`	`Helral`	`FreshPrince: Also if you're going to have multiple units that can get 5 kills you need to get a way to keep track of which text tag needs to be destroyed.`
`21:15.59`	`zeta3`	`http://pastebin.com/zDNjmEUk any idea why this set of event/conditions doesn't detect my refinery being built?`
`21:16.05`	`zeta3`	`it should be very simple`
`21:17.30`	`Helral`	`zeta3: Use "Triggering Progress Unit" to get the unit that is under construction.`
`21:17.34`	`FreshPrince`	`i want that all units can get the 10 kills so i have to do a array variable?`
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`21:17.46`	`zeta3`	`ahh thanks`
`21:17.50`	`Helral`	`zeta3: copied from the hint text of your event`
`21:18.25`	`zeta3`	`when do you use "Unit is created" and when do you use Any unit construction progress?`
`21:18.39`	`Helral`	`FreshPrince: yup you need to use an array.... but I can't say how to correct set it up :S`
`21:19.05`	`FreshPrince`	`k damn thats to hard >.<`
`21:19.12`	`Helral`	`zeta3: construction is completed limits it to stuff that is build (build ability)`
`21:19.18`	`zeta3`	`ah`
`21:19.22`	`zeta3`	`what about morph?`
`21:19.27`	`zeta3`	`like morph extractor etc.`
`21:19.39`	`Helral`	`zerg drone uses build ability`
`21:19.43`	`zeta3`	`ok`
`21:19.44`	`Helral`	`and protoss probe as well`
`21:20.41`	`Helral`	`the zerg drone uses the flag: destry worker on completion.`
`21:21.38`	`zeta3`	`ok`
`21:21.48`	`zeta3`	`thank you`
`21:21.51`	`FreshPrince`	`k i g2g now see u`
`21:22.58`	`Helral`	`hmmm is sc2mapster slow atm?`
`21:23.20`	`Helral`	`or down even?`
`21:23.32`	`Helral`	`Sixen poke`
`21:23.42`	`Sixen`	`it's down, getting it fix`
`21:23.44`	`Sixen`	`t`
`21:23.59`	`Helral`	`ok :) then it isn't my connection ;p`
`21:25.58`	`Helral`	`Sixen : a different question. Can I change my email address somewhere on the site?`
`21:26.59`	`Ashamed`	`whats wrong with sc2 mapster :(`
`21:27.08`	`Helral`	`it's down :(`
`21:27.21`	`Ashamed`	`i know`
`21:27.22`	`Helral`	`see my question 4 mins ago ;p`
`21:27.29`	`Ashamed`	`but whats getten fixed :(`
`21:27.32`	`Ashamed`	`its broked`
`21:27.42`	`Helral`	`prolly the webserver getting rebooted.`
`21:27.49`	`Ashamed`	`IT BETTER BE`
`21:28.05`	`tordy`	`what's the point of unit array in upgrade`
`21:28.26`	`tordy`	`because it affects units that aren't even in the array`
`21:29.17`	`Clord`	`1.3.0 works.. my most popular map is getting even more popular`
`21:29.26`	`Clord`	`as fun or not made people who has never bothered to check my frontpage map`
`21:29.28`	`Clord`	`to try it`
`21:29.29`	`Clord`	`XD`
`21:29.52`	`tordy`	`clord`
`21:29.53`	`tordy`	`because it affects units that aren't even in the array`
`21:29.57`	`tordy`	`what's the point of unit array in upgrade`
`21:29.57`	`Clord`	`good job blizzard..... now give us limousines /sarcasm`
`21:30.10`	`Ashamed`	`you see what google did to the uk`
`21:30.12`	`Ashamed`	`them bitches`
`21:30.40`	`Clord`	`now I point out the obvious.. what I said just now was sarcasm`
`21:30.41`	`Clord`	`lol`
`21:30.46`	`Clord`	`they do crappy job in reality`
`21:30.58`	`Clord`	`but I applause them for trying`
`21:30.59`	`Sixen`	`ya helral`
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`21:31.34`	`Jack[RCDF`	`morning`
`21:31.46`	`Helral`	`Sixen: already changed it using the SC2Replayed site :)`
`21:31.51`	`Clord`	`why their "fun or not" system keeps promoting my front page map.. when it should kick all frontpage maps from promoting list`
`21:31.52`	`grim001`	`...`
`21:32.09`	`Sixen`	`shoud be on all sites then :P`
`21:32.11`	`Clord`	`to make it even work as intended`
`21:32.34`	`Helral`	`just wanna test it :( can someone send me a PM.`
`21:32.46`	`Helral`	`ow wait SC2Mapster is still offline :(`
`21:33.31`	`Ashamed`	`OFFFFFFFLINE`
`21:33.44`	`Ashamed`	`how long it take for the server to rebootz?`
`21:33.50`	`Jack[RCDF`	`over 9000 seconds.`
`21:34.02`	`Helral`	`btw Sixen: can you set an option for the email updates on PM to be for every PM not just new PM-threads? ;p`
`21:34.40`	`Sixen`	`I dunno if it's possible by default yet :x`
`21:34.51`	`Sixen`	`I'll let ya know; working on getting shit back up atm ;`
`21:34.52`	`Sixen`	`;)`
`21:35.01`	`Helral`	`hehehe :)`
`21:35.08`	`Helral`	`work harder and ignore me some more :)`
`21:36.36`	`tordy`	`bread sticks is 2 words braniac`
`21:37.03`	`Jack[RCDF`	`AND IT STILL SMELLS OF BS`
`21:40.48`	`Helral`	`it's back`
`21:42.23`	`Helral`	`Sixen: I can't change my email address in SC2Mapster, or will it autochange in a while after it sync's the users with the general database?`
`21:43.26`	`Sixen`	`Hrm... It should auto-change.`
`21:43.38`	`Helral`	`Sixen: Edit e-mail - Bad Request <-- error that I get`
`21:43.55`	`Sixen`	`probably because it's changed on replayed already`
`21:44.21`	`Helral`	`so it's prolly because I changed it while sc2mapster was down ;p`
`21:45.47`	`Helral`	`hehehe that fixed it :)`
`21:46.00`	`Helral`	`changed it back on sc2replayed, and changed it on sc2mapster instead :P`
`21:46.49`	`Jack[RCDF`	`heh, sixen, roy got you with his new post. Also ignore cardinal, he's trolling as evidenced by trololol`
`21:47.51`	`Helral`	`so can someone send me a PM wanna test if I get it on the correct email address ;p`
`21:48.00`	`Helral`	`a PM on sc2mapster that is ;p`
`21:48.03`	`Helral`	`not on IRC ;)`
`21:48.06`	`tordy`	`DROPKICK`
`21:48.09`	`Sixen`	`lol`
`21:48.31`	`Helral`	`I thought I'd beat anyone who wanted to send me a PM on IRC to it.`
`21:53.07`	`zeta3`	`Ashamed, finally finished everything`
`21:53.12`	`zeta3`	`man that was tediuos`
`21:53.27`	`zeta3`	`by everything i mean everything related to gas`
`21:54.39`	`Ashamed`	`it does everything?`
`21:54.56`	`Helral`	`Sixen: any Idea when you will be implementing the following of threads? ;p`
`21:55.26`	`Sixen`	`It's one ofthe things on the to do list for the devs :\`
`21:55.35`	`Sixen`	`I'd rather have them fix stuff first though`
`21:55.45`	`Helral`	`like these downtimes?`
`21:55.49`	`Sixen`	`:P`
`21:55.56`	`Helral`	`grin`
`21:56.17`	`Ashamed`	`i think i may go play some ff7 ><`
`21:56.21`	`Helral`	`is there much buggy stuff atm?`
`21:56.22`	`Ashamed`	`i have been playing that lol`
`21:56.28`	`Jack[RCDF`	`olol @backend access.`
`21:56.36`	`zeta3`	`Ashamed, yeah`
`21:57.00`	`Ashamed`	`nice how did you detect each refineray and the amount of harvesters on it?`
`21:57.00`	`Jack[RCDF`	`BTW sixen, voy's joking, cardinal's joking but being an ass at the same time.`
`21:57.13`	`Jack[RCDF`	`And you should probably reply to voy with a :teach: smileyface.`
`21:57.19`	`LordAbyss`	`has anyone done anything with the google app engine?`
`21:57.26`	`Sixen`	`heh`
`21:58.34`	`zeta3`	`Ashamed, i had a trigger assigns each refinery with a unique ID as it is being made`
`21:58.43`	`Stimpy77_`	`If I set an event based on a timer which is based on a variable, and that variable changes, does the event's timer get updated? if not automatically, how can I get it to update manually? or is it possible?`
`21:58.50`	`zeta3`	`ie. set custom value 53 of the said refinery`
`21:58.51`	`Ashamed`	`ok that would work`
`21:58.53`	`Ashamed`	`:)`
`21:59.06`	`zeta3`	`custom value 55 of said refinery is the number of harvesters mining from it`
`21:59.13`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Has anyone tried gmail motion?`
`21:59.18`	`zeta3`	`custom value 54 of scv/workers/etc. is which refinery it is mining from`
`21:59.46`	`zeta3`	`if custom value 54 of SCV != custom value 53 of refinery, then they are not mining from the same refinery`
`21:59.57`	`zeta3`	`ultimately allowing me to distinguish between different refineries`
`22:00.08`	`Ashamed`	`yeah for sure`
`22:00.10`	`Ashamed`	`you have to create a trigger for each one?`
`22:00.19`	`Jack[RCDF`	`zeta3, that work around looks like sc1 style triggering :P`
`22:00.25`	`zeta3`	`well i needed 4 different triggers`
`22:01.37`	`zeta3`	`trigger 1 - refinery assignment, trigger 2 - scv mines from refinery (gather or not), trigger 3 - scv issues order that isn't mine (removal of scv from refinery), trigger 4 - actual detection of which refineries are which`
`22:01.41`	`zeta3`	`trigger #3 was by far the most work`
`22:02.14`	`Helral`	`zeta3: and what if a worker is killed?`
`22:02.16`	`Jack[RCDF`	`Zeta, but what if they're working at a refinery but are on their way back?`
`22:02.33`	`zeta3`	`Helral, good catch :P i need to add that in`
`22:02.53`	`zeta3`	`does't matter if they are on their way back - return cargo cases are taken care of`
`22:03.00`	`tordy`	`PSYCHO CRUSHER`
`22:04.36`	`zeta3`	`Helral, aside from unit dies - anything else can happen to unit that i should worry about?`
`22:05.15`	`Helral`	`refinery runs out?`
`22:05.19`	`Helral`	`so unit becomes idle`
`22:06.10`	`Jack[RCDF`	`that's be covered by trigger 3, wouldn't it?`
`22:06.43`	`Jack[RCDF`	`that'd*`
`22:06.48`	`Helral`	`most likely not, since that is new order, while this one doesn't get a new order.`
`22:07.03`	`zeta3`	`well if it's idle it's issued the stop command`
`22:07.28`	`zeta3`	`at least thats what i'd imagine`
`22:07.31`	`Helral`	`if an order fails I don't think the stop command is issued.`
`22:07.50`	`Helral`	`I think the unit just drops idle.`
`22:07.57`	`Ashamed`	`yeah zeta thats the one that i was saying was going ot be hard`
`22:08.09`	`Ashamed`	`i was like i can do it all but then you get to removing them and it gets hard`
`22:08.12`	`Ashamed`	`glad you got it :)`
`22:08.24`	`zeta3`	`hm`
`22:08.51`	`zeta3`	`well - i have a trigger for taking care of idle units by pure coincidence for another purpose`
`22:08.54`	`zeta3`	`so i think it might be ok`
`22:09.01`	`Helral`	`so can anyone just send me a PM on SC2Mapster ;p wanna check if my new emailadres works correctly or not ;p`
`22:09.14`	`Ashamed`	`zeta and for detecting them getting off what i would do if you didnt do this is just say do =! harvest`
`22:09.22`	`Ashamed`	`so if they do anything besides harvest then the game will check them`
`22:09.26`	`Ashamed`	`and remove them from the group`
`22:10.01`	`zeta3`	`yeah i have that check`
`22:10.10`	`Jack[RCDF`	`PM sent helral.`
`22:10.11`	`Ashamed`	`ok so it should work on idel too`
`22:10.16`	`Ashamed`	`so you should be good`
`22:10.23`	`Stimpy77_`	`If I set an event based on a timer which is based on a variable, and that variable changes, does the event's timer get updated? if not automatically, how can I get it to update manually? or is it possible?`
`22:10.50`	`Stimpy77_`	`^^ timer is periodic timer`
`22:11.05`	`Ashamed`	`no it does not update`
`22:11.08`	`Ashamed`	`unless you update it`
`22:11.16`	`Stimpy77_`	`how do I update it`
`22:11.17`	`Ashamed`	`say a var = 30 and you set the timer to 30`
`22:11.22`	`Ashamed`	`if you update the var to 35`
`22:11.31`	`Ashamed`	`the timer wont update to 35 unless you run the trigger again`
`22:11.51`	`zeta3`	`hm if an unit dies is it issued a stop command first`
`22:11.52`	`zeta3`	`i wonder`
`22:11.55`	`Stimpy77_`	`the timer is the event .. it's just an event-based timer ..`
`22:12.01`	`Helral`	`thx Jack[RCDF ;p`
`22:12.13`	`Ashamed`	`it does not get updated`
`22:12.23`	`Stimpy77_`	`how do you update the timer`
`22:12.26`	`Ashamed`	`what ever it was at when the trigger ran it will stay until the next time its ran`
`22:12.33`	`Jack[RCDF`	`no problemo`
`22:12.41`	`Ashamed`	`with another trigger :)`
`22:12.51`	`Ashamed`	`ok it will update next time its ran`
`22:12.59`	`Stimpy77_`	`just run trigger? I thought running a trigger was the same thing as an event being raised`
`22:13.01`	`Ashamed`	`ok so say your trigger adds +5 more to the varable`
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`22:13.07`	`Ashamed`	`well then when the loop happens agian`
`22:13.10`	`Ashamed`	`it will be updated`
`22:13.14`	`Ashamed`	`but not for hte current trigger`
`22:13.41`	`Ashamed`	`does that make sense?`
`22:13.42`	`Stimpy77_`	`right .. my intent is for the timer to be updated for the following timer invocation on the same trigger`
`22:13.55`	`Ashamed`	`so you should be good`
`22:14.02`	`Ashamed`	`because the next time it runs it will be the updated varable`
`22:14.17`	`Stimpy77_`	`is this theory? if so I'm back to where I started`
`22:14.28`	`Ashamed`	`thats not theory`
`22:14.31`	`Ashamed`	`if you update the varable`
`22:14.32`	`Stimpy77_`	`cause I started with that theory lol`
`22:14.34`	`Ashamed`	`in the trigger`
`22:14.41`	`Ashamed`	`and you have the timer set to the varable`
`22:15.02`	`Ashamed`	`everytime the event is called it will pull the varable number`
`22:15.12`	`Ashamed`	`i mean you can make sure its correct by timing it`
`22:15.20`	`Ashamed`	`like make it add another 30 seconds or something SO you know it worked`
`22:15.41`	`Stimpy77_`	`ok so you're saying that a timer event is not like, say, a .NET/C# timer event where the timeout is a predefined amount of time .. it is something that instead gets regularly evaluated against its setting ..`
`22:15.58`	`Stimpy77_`	`I did test it .. it didn't work`
`22:16.08`	`Ashamed`	`well if you set it to a varable the predfined amount of time should be that varable`
`22:16.10`	`Stimpy77_`	`I had it start @ 60 seconds then lowered it to 10 seconds and it was still @ 60 seconds`
`22:16.18`	`Ashamed`	`hmm let me try`
`22:16.38`	`Ashamed`	`you might have to do a forever loop too`
`22:16.42`	`Ashamed`	`and just put the wiat in the loop`
`22:16.45`	`Ashamed`	`but let me see`
`22:16.57`	`Helral`	`Stimpy77_: global vars: Timer gv_time, Int gv_dur. Trigger: gvtime Expires. Action: Start gvtime as a one-shot timer for gv_dur seconds.`
`22:17.00`	`Stimpy77_`	`that's something I didn't consider`
`22:17.11`	`Stimpy77_`	`^^ forever loop`
`22:17.53`	`zeta3`	`man using custom values as pointers`
`22:17.56`	`zeta3`	`so balling`
`22:20.54`	`Ashamed`	`yeah stimpy it looks like a forever loop for you :)`
`22:20.59`	`Ashamed`	`i am sorry i was mistaken`
`22:21.08`	`Ashamed`	`you understand what i mean about the loop?`
`22:21.08`	`Stimpy77_`	`aw snap .. is that performant etc?`
`22:21.21`	`Stimpy77_`	`yeh .. any synchronocity or weirdness doing that?`
`22:21.46`	`Stimpy77_`	`trigger was only triggered via timer so ..`
`22:22.31`	`Ashamed`	`i am testing it now`
`22:22.44`	`Ashamed`	`well with a loop you can just start the loop at the begin of the map`
`22:22.47`	`Ashamed`	`and it should work one second`
`22:22.58`	`Stimpy77_`	`you're so kind`
`22:23.36`	`Helral`	`nn all ;p`
`22:23.44`	`Jack[RCDF`	`lol sixen`
`22:24.06`	`Sixen`	`that smiley is badass`
`22:24.20`	`Jack[RCDF`	`yes indeedy`
`22:24.22`	`Ashamed`	`yeah that worked let me pastebin it for you`
`22:24.25`	`Ashamed`	`it was pretty simple`
`22:24.33`	`Stimpy77_`	`thanks ashamed`
`22:26.18`	`Ashamed`	`actuall its like 3 lines of code i will just paste her`
`22:26.40`	`Ashamed`	`so event is map int`
`22:26.50`	`Ashamed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:27.06`	`Ashamed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:27.23`	`Ashamed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:27.30`	`Ashamed`	`timer is your intger`
`22:27.37`	`Ashamed`	`that make sense?`
`22:27.51`	`Stimpy77_`	`yep`
`22:27.54`	`Stimpy77_`	`ty!`
`22:28.01`	`Ashamed`	`ok good :)`
`22:29.40`	`Jack[RCDF`	`vgshorts > pastebin for sc2 codes.`
`22:30.06`	`Jack[RCDF`	`http://vgshorts.com/BBCode/BBCode3.php?ID=162 example there`
`22:31.22`	`Jack[RCDF`	`sc2 triggers*`
`22:32.15`	`Stimpy77_`	`ashamed`
`22:32.19`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. gonna add this ..`
`22:32.20`	`Stimpy77_`	`General - If (Conditions) then do (Actions) else do (Actions)`
`22:32.20`	`Stimpy77_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:32.20`	`Stimpy77_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:32.36`	`Stimpy77_`	`cause I have other triggers turning this guy off`
`22:32.48`	`Stimpy77_`	`that the way?`
`22:32.50`	`Stimpy77_`	`u think?`
`22:33.20`	`Ashamed`	`i am assuming you have another trigger that turns it off?`
`22:33.29`	`Stimpy77_`	`yup ..`
`22:33.41`	`Jack[RCDF`	`He just said that :P`
`22:33.53`	`Ashamed`	`that should work`
`22:33.57`	`Stimpy77_`	`coo`
`22:34.11`	`Ashamed`	`no he didnt jack he said he was going to add a if then to check the current trigger`
`22:34.42`	`Stimpy77_`	`Stimpy77_cause I have other triggers turning this guy off`
`22:34.45`	`Ashamed`	`oh you did`
`22:34.48`	`Stimpy77_`	`:)`
`22:34.48`	`Ashamed`	`:) i didn tsee that lol`
`22:35.00`	`Jack[RCDF`	`:teach:`
`22:35.01`	`Ashamed`	`its cuz my client is not brtingin the chat to the bottom`
`22:35.20`	`Jack[RCDF`	`http://www.staredit.net/images/smilies/1/syphon1.gif = :teach:`
`22:35.29`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442d304d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.48.77)`
`22:35.45`	`Bounty`	`Hai guys`
`22:35.53`	`Ashamed`	`stimpy just make sure if you want it to go back to sqaure one once the trigger is turned off and back on you gotta reset your integer back too`
`22:35.57`	`Ashamed`	`but i bet you already knew that`
`22:36.03`	`Bounty`	`Anyone want to buy two 4870's? :)`
`22:36.05`	`Ashamed`	`hey bounty hows it going ?`
`22:36.06`	`Bounty`	`lololol`
`22:36.11`	`Bounty`	`good, u?`
`22:36.14`	`Stimpy77_`	`yeah thx`
`22:36.22`	`Ashamed`	`good :)`
`22:36.33`	`Bounty`	`Just brainstorming some new concepts`
`22:36.43`	`Ashamed`	`4870's gpus ?`
`22:36.46`	`Bounty`	`yeah`
`22:36.55`	`Ashamed`	`are they ati?`
`22:36.58`	`Bounty`	`mmhmmm`
`22:37.05`	`Ashamed`	`cross fire ?`
`22:37.10`	`Bounty`	`mmhmmm`
`22:37.16`	`Ashamed`	`ATI OR NVEDIA!`
`22:37.17`	`Ashamed`	`come on`
`22:37.29`	`Bounty`	`I need to get a 6950`
`22:37.36`	`Bounty`	`i run at to high of a resolution lol`
`22:37.39`	`Bounty`	`just need more vram`
`22:37.44`	`Jack[RCDF`	`How much for the 4870s?`
`22:37.55`	`Bounty`	`make meh an offer i cant refuse`
`22:37.59`	`Ashamed`	`100!`
`22:38.05`	`Jack[RCDF`	`I'll make you a map`
`22:38.06`	`Bounty`	`REFUSED`
`22:38.12`	`Bounty`	`lol? ill make my own map`
`22:38.14`	`Bounty`	`><`
`22:38.18`	`Jack[RCDF`	`I'll interview you`
`22:38.22`	`Jack[RCDF`	`and post the interview everywhere`
`22:38.32`	`Bounty`	`That wouldnt benefit me at all`
`22:38.35`	`Bounty`	`DENIED`
`22:39.00`	`Ashamed`	`my gpu sucks too`
`22:39.06`	`Motive`	`casters at MLG relying on twitter to update on their own games`
`22:39.07`	`Motive`	`fail`
`22:39.08`	`Motive`	`Lol`
`22:39.09`	`Bounty`	`two 4870's are beastly`
`22:39.13`	`Ashamed`	`yeah`
`22:39.15`	`Bounty`	`i can run everything maxed`
`22:39.21`	`Ashamed`	`how much you pay for them like 200 each?`
`22:39.29`	`Bounty`	`but the problem is i play on a 32" tv, and the 4870's are only 512mb each`
`22:39.33`	`Bounty`	`more then that`
`22:39.36`	`Bounty`	`like 350-400 each`
`22:39.39`	`Ashamed`	`i would have to prob get a better ps if i xfired :(`
`22:39.55`	`Bounty`	`Ive had them for a long ass time`
`22:40.06`	`Ashamed`	`bounty you using hdmi?`
`22:40.10`	`Bounty`	`DVI`
`22:40.14`	`Bounty`	`for my 32"`
`22:40.18`	`Bounty`	`HDM for my 52"`
`22:40.21`	`Bounty`	`HDMI*`
`22:40.26`	`Ashamed`	`hmmm i wouldn't think it would use too much memory`
`22:40.32`	`Bounty`	`Well`
`22:40.40`	`Bounty`	`SC2 required 1gb of VRAm for ultra textures`
`22:40.47`	`Ashamed`	`oh nice`
`22:40.48`	`Bounty`	`and i only have two 512's`
`22:40.53`	`Bounty`	`and it doesnt add them together`
`22:40.56`	`Bounty`	`it just uses the one with the most`
`22:40.59`	`Bounty`	`so i only have 512 :)`
`22:41.01`	`Ashamed`	`so its dedicated to sc2 lol`
`22:41.05`	`Bounty`	`no`
`22:41.08`	`Bounty`	`just in general`
`22:41.16`	`Bounty`	`bc i run at 1080p i need more then 512mb`
`22:41.21`	`Ashamed`	`wait bounty you are not xfiring?`
`22:41.25`	`Bounty`	`i am xfiring`
`22:41.34`	`Bounty`	`but it doesnt use both ram for both cards`
`22:41.37`	`Bounty`	`from both cards*`
`22:41.43`	`Bounty`	`it only uses vram from whichever card has the most`
`22:41.46`	`Bounty`	`yes i know, its stupid ><`
`22:41.48`	`Ashamed`	`oh really :(`
`22:41.51`	`Bounty`	`yeah`
`22:41.59`	`Ashamed`	`i have a weak card but i still have 1 gb dedicated in it`
`22:42.00`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`22:42.04`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`22:42.05`	`Bounty`	`exactly`
`22:42.08`	`Bounty`	`i just need vram really`
`22:42.13`	`Ashamed`	`yeah`
`22:42.13`	`Bounty`	`6950 should do the trick`
`22:42.17`	`Bounty`	`2gb`
`22:42.20`	`Ashamed`	`because it cant pull it from your ram`
`22:42.32`	`Ashamed`	`do you have hdmi?`
`22:42.36`	`Bounty`	`yeah`
`22:42.41`	`Bounty`	`i only use it for my big TV though`
`22:42.51`	`Bounty`	`i use DVI for my dedicated screen`
`22:43.06`	`Ashamed`	`i think hdmi might work a bit differntly and pull more memory from your ram / proccessor`
`22:43.18`	`Bounty`	`well i use DVI so`
`22:43.21`	`Bounty`	`doesnt matter ><`
`22:43.30`	`Bounty`	`btw`
`22:43.31`	`Ashamed`	`i know i was saying mby try it to see if its a fix for now`
`22:43.38`	`Bounty`	`How would you like to give me feedback on a map concept`
`22:43.43`	`Ashamed`	`becuase if may not need as much dedicated vram but i am not sure`
`22:43.55`	`Bounty`	`Idk if i should make it or not ><`
`22:43.59`	`Bounty`	`It sounds fun in my head`
`22:44.01`	`Ashamed`	`what is it ?`
`22:44.06`	`Bounty`	`You ever play Half life?`
`22:44.10`	`Bounty`	`U know the gravity gun?`
`22:44.16`	`Bounty`	`and how u can pick shit up and shoot it`
`22:44.27`	`Bounty`	`well it would be like that, but dodgeball`
`22:44.31`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`22:44.40`	`Ashamed`	`yeah niced`
`22:44.45`	`Bounty`	`like u can pick up the dodgeballs with ur gun and launch them`
`22:44.49`	`Bounty`	`and u can catch them if one is comign at u`
`22:44.52`	`Bounty`	`sound like fun?`
`22:44.55`	`Ashamed`	`bounty i would do something like that but try it with like 3 differnt pwoer up guns or something`
`22:44.59`	`Ashamed`	`so its not all the same`
`22:45.07`	`Ashamed`	`so one is gravity`
`22:45.11`	`Bounty`	`well what other guns would i use`
`22:45.11`	`Ashamed`	`one is something else i dunno`
`22:45.16`	`Ashamed`	`i dont know ><`
`22:45.18`	`Bounty`	`well then it wouldnt be dodgeball`
`22:45.20`	`Bounty`	`=P`
`22:45.27`	`Ashamed`	`no make it so they all do something to the ball`
`22:45.30`	`Ashamed`	`mby one muitiplys it`
`22:45.36`	`Ashamed`	`muitiplies*`
`22:45.47`	`Bounty`	`could just add powerups`
`22:45.48`	`zeta3`	`1500 lines in my script so far`
`22:45.49`	`zeta3`	`woot`
`22:45.50`	`Bounty`	`oh and`
`22:45.54`	`Bounty`	`if u get eliminated`
`22:45.55`	`Ashamed`	`yeah power ups would work too`
`22:46.02`	`Bounty`	`u get put on the sides of the arena`
`22:46.06`	`Bounty`	`and u can throw shit at people`
`22:46.08`	`Bounty`	`to stun them`
`22:46.19`	`Bounty`	`if u stun someone and they die from it, u go back into the game`
`22:46.28`	`Bounty`	`but yeah, thats the concept`
`22:46.29`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`22:46.29`	`Ashamed`	`yeah anything to make it just tossing a ball`
`22:46.31`	`Ashamed`	`and dodging`
`22:46.40`	`Bounty`	`well it wouldnt be like ur thinking`
`22:46.44`	`Bounty`	`once u throw the ball`
`22:46.47`	`Bounty`	`it doesnt stop lol`
`22:46.48`	`Ashamed`	`because i could see that being fun mby the first 2 times you play it but then belike well thats done`
`22:46.51`	`Bounty`	`it just keeps going all over the place`
`22:46.55`	`Bounty`	`bouncing off walls`
`22:47.11`	`Ashamed`	`perfect so you will have like something that you can get to stop that`
`22:47.19`	`Ashamed`	`you could make it good for sure`
`22:47.21`	`Bounty`	`well yeah u can use the same gun`
`22:47.23`	`Bounty`	`to catch it`
`22:47.52`	`Ashamed`	`but if you mess up you are out?`
`22:48.13`	`Bounty`	`u get put on the side`
`22:48.16`	`Ashamed`	`once you make the gravity gun i would like it please :)`
`22:48.17`	`Bounty`	`and u can throw shit at people`
`22:48.20`	`Bounty`	`to stun them`
`22:48.28`	`Bounty`	`if someone dies bc of u stunning them from the sidelines`
`22:48.31`	`Bounty`	`u go back in`
`22:48.32`	`Bounty`	`=P`
`22:48.47`	`Ashamed`	`power ups that make it so you cant catch it`
`22:48.56`	`Ashamed`	`muitiply`
`22:48.57`	`Bounty`	`thats not much of a powerup`
`22:48.58`	`Ashamed`	`faster`
`22:48.59`	`Ashamed`	`slower`
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`22:49.15`	`Ashamed`	`yeah for like 20 seconds people have to just dodge`
`22:49.19`	`Ashamed`	`because you cant catch it`
`22:49.24`	`Ashamed`	`or just the other team cant catch it`
`22:49.55`	`Ashamed`	`make the ball grow for a power up`
`22:49.59`	`Bounty`	`i was originally going to make it a puzzle/bound map`
`22:50.17`	`Bounty`	`there isnt ONE ball`
`22:50.19`	`Bounty`	`there are alot`
`22:50.26`	`Bounty`	`and the logner times goes the more balls come into play lol`
`22:50.27`	`Ashamed`	`CABILLIONS`
`22:50.32`	`Bounty`	`MO BALLS`
`22:50.35`	`Stewox`	`hey bounty , are you ready now , for your mod to upload on EU , plz :)`
`22:50.42`	`Ashamed`	`NO`
`22:50.47`	`Ashamed`	`he wont ever upload it to EU`
`22:50.51`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`22:50.51`	`Ashamed`	`its US only`
`22:51.06`	`Bounty`	`THIS IS AMERICA YOU HIPPIE FAG`
`22:51.11`	`Ashamed`	`YEAH`
`22:51.22`	`Bounty`	`no but seriously`
`22:51.24`	`Bounty`	`im working on it`
`22:51.25`	`Ashamed`	`WE DONT SHARE WITH THE REST OF THE WORLD`
`22:51.31`	`Stewox`	`he doesn't troust me ;p`
`22:51.31`	`Bounty`	`actually`
`22:51.34`	`Bounty`	`we share TO much`
`22:51.37`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`22:51.37`	`Bounty`	`thats why we are broke`
`22:51.39`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`22:51.41`	`Ashamed`	`i hate america ><`
`22:52.02`	`Stewox`	`do you have an uploader ?`
`22:52.02`	`Bounty`	`me to`
`22:52.02`	`Ashamed`	`i want to move th europe`
`22:52.02`	`Bounty`	`i wanna move to Canada`
`22:52.02`	`Ashamed`	`i am tired of all the religion nuts here`
`22:52.07`	`Ashamed`	`well bounty i would move there too`
`22:52.12`	`Ashamed`	`pretty much anywhere besides here lol`
`22:52.18`	`Bounty`	`I mean, when was the last time something bad happend in Canada`
`22:52.25`	`zeta3`	`when i publish a map that has a dependency on a mod - I have to publish both the mod and the map right?`
`22:52.28`	`Ashamed`	`i am so tired of America its not even funny`
`22:52.29`	`Stewox`	`Ashamed , are you talking about me or what ?`
`22:52.36`	`Ashamed`	`all of our citizens are dumb asses`
`22:52.44`	`Ashamed`	`you a religion nut stewox?`
`22:52.45`	`Bounty`	`^qft`
`22:52.53`	`Bounty`	`PARAIIIISE JESSUSSS`
`22:52.53`	`Ashamed`	`our government sucks`
`22:52.54`	`Stewox`	`ofcourse zeta3 , both files`
`22:53.08`	`Ashamed`	`and we have people that pertend they hear from a higher power`
`22:53.09`	`zeta3`	`alright`
`22:53.11`	`Bounty`	`brb time teh shmoke and clean`
`22:53.16`	`Ashamed`	`when its clear that we evolved from monkeys`
`22:53.19`	`Ashamed`	`we can only test or DNA`
`22:53.22`	`Ashamed`	`and compare it to monkeys`
`22:53.39`	`Stewox`	`Ash, it's not the goverment, it's the criminals that are messing with it`
`22:53.53`	`Ashamed`	`which is our entier government awesome!`
`22:54.00`	`Stewox`	`anyways bounty you said working on it , are you actually now uploading to EU or only in plans or what ... ?`
`22:54.05`	`Ashamed`	`well republicans more ...but still ><`
`22:54.19`	`Ashamed`	`our contry was built of consumers and now we are poor and all we still do is buy shit`
`22:54.22`	`Ashamed`	`awesome`
`22:54.46`	`Ashamed`	`sports players in America is like the highest paying job ><`
`22:54.46`	`Ashamed`	`awesome`
`22:54.56`	`Ashamed`	`when we need to make state budget cuts`
`22:55.00`	`Ashamed`	`we cut it from education programs`
`22:56.50`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`22:56.52`	`Ashamed`	`so i am in gmail`
`22:57.02`	`Ashamed`	`and up top it says coming soon better ads!!! click here to find ou tmore`
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`23:01.11`	`zeta3`	`is there a state that checks if a unit is currently morphing or not/ (like a CC morphing into a PF or OCB)`
`23:01.13`	`zeta3`	`OCB*`
`23:02.07`	`Ashamed`	`you can prob check the behavior or something`
`23:02.59`	`Ashamed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:03.04`	`Ashamed`	`that one mby ?`
`23:03.21`	`zeta3`	`would morphing be a behaviour?`
`23:06.19`	`Ashamed`	`there is an hehavior envolved i would think`
`23:06.34`	`Ashamed`	`i am not a data guy... but there should be some kind of behabior`
`23:06.44`	`Ashamed`	`mby an ability you can have it check that too`
`23:07.43`	`Ashamed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:09.47`	`zeta3`	`pretty sure its not a behaviour`
`23:10.31`	`Ashamed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:10.40`	`Ashamed`	`you can have it check an ability too zeta`
`23:11.09`	`zeta3`	`yeah there's a ton of different abilities i'd have to check for morph though`
`23:11.27`	`zeta3`	`hatchery - moprh, command center - morph, lair - morph , etc.`
`23:11.48`	`zeta3`	`i could i guess`
`23:11.49`	`zeta3`	`hm`
`23:12.31`	`Ashamed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:12.57`	`Ashamed`	`yeah you could have an if-then`
`23:13.45`	`zeta3`	`thanks i'll do it that way for now`
`23:14.00`	`Ashamed`	`um if you need the same outcome no matter what i believe you can put all the conditions there`
`23:14.08`	`Ashamed`	`and if one of them are checked it will run the trigger`
`23:14.24`	`Stimpy77_`	`anyone have a guess on how to get a created nydus canal to do its "hello world" dance? ima try "dance" command lol ..`
`23:14.40`	`Ashamed`	`lol`
`23:14.56`	`Ashamed`	`you can command any ability in triggers`
`23:15.21`	`zeta3`	`well the condition`
`23:15.22`	`Stimpy77_`	`yes I have that .. but nothing for nydus to do its spawn animation`
`23:15.24`	`zeta3`	`is unit command ability state`
`23:15.57`	`Stimpy77_`	`creating a nydus canal makes it pop in out of nowhere`
`23:16.08`	`Stimpy77_`	`poof`
`23:17.10`	`zeta3`	`Ashamed, dont think i can find it`
`23:17.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Back.`
`23:17.27`	`zeta3`	`I can't use the Unit - Any Unit uses Ability at Generic1 - Any stage (Ignore shared abilities) event`
`23:17.32`	`zeta3`	`i'm using a different one`
`23:17.46`	`zeta3`	`so i can't use triggering ability state`
`23:18.14`	`Ashamed`	`oh if its a spawn thing then its the actor it is using`
`23:18.19`	`Ashamed`	`try to look through actors`
`23:18.28`	`Stimpy77_`	`well dance didn't work`
`23:18.53`	`Ashamed`	`that was the event`
`23:18.58`	`Stimpy77_`	`heh my trigger action text: "Order nydus to ( Dance )"`
`23:19.10`	`Ashamed`	`if you use it as an event i would say like any ability`
`23:19.15`	`Ashamed`	`and then have it check the conditions`
`23:19.16`	`JademusSreg`	`What's going on?`
`23:19.35`	`zeta3`	`i'm trying to filter out all the units that are currently morphing`
`23:19.36`	`Ashamed`	`dont come in here like your all that jade`
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`23:19.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Hahaha`
`23:19.56`	`Ashamed`	`mr i just went to the gym`
`23:20.00`	`Ashamed`	`so now i am all beefy and ready`
`23:20.27`	`JademusSreg`	`zeta, you might be able to get the current order, get its ability command and compare that to the morphing ability command.`
`23:20.28`	`Ashamed`	`zeta i am confusing why cnat you use my event i gave you ?`
`23:20.39`	`Stimpy77_`	`actors = animations?`
`23:20.43`	`Stimpy77_`	`er?`
`23:20.47`	`Ashamed`	`thats what i told him jade :)`
`23:20.49`	`zeta3`	`hm`
`23:20.50`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`23:20.52`	`JademusSreg`	`Excellent.`
`23:21.03`	`zeta3`	`nm i figured it out using unit command ability state`
`23:21.13`	`JademusSreg`	`Stimpy, what's up?`
`23:21.34`	`Ashamed`	`he needs to make the nydus canal do its spawn actor`
`23:21.48`	`JademusSreg`	`AnimPlat Birth?`
`23:21.51`	`JademusSreg`	`*Play`
`23:22.22`	`Stimpy77_`	`attach?`
`23:22.33`	`Ashamed`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:22.40`	`Ashamed`	`thas it stimpy`
`23:22.40`	`Stimpy77_`	`nvm .. play`
`23:22.42`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. hehe`
`23:22.54`	`Stimpy77_`	`k .. sure birth and not unburrow?`
`23:22.58`	`Ashamed`	`i got this jade`
`23:23.04`	`Stimpy77_`	`or complete construction`
`23:23.06`	`Ashamed`	`i handled the fort fine while you were "working" out`
`23:23.12`	`JademusSreg`	`What does it say in the Previewer?`
`23:23.14`	`Ashamed`	`i dunno what actor it is ><`
`23:23.19`	`Ashamed`	`i do not play sc2 rts lol`
`23:23.20`	`JademusSreg`	`It should list all the animations there.`
`23:24.18`	`Stimpy77_`	`I'll try birth`
`23:24.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Find the NydusWorm model in the Previewer, and look at its animations. =D`
`23:24.30`	`Stimpy77_`	`aww cute little nydus canal baby ..`
`23:24.31`	`JademusSreg`	`Birth is probably it, though.`
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`23:27.10`	`Ashamed`	`just test it!`
`23:27.18`	`grim001`	`figuring out how to use Eclipse`
`23:27.54`	`Ashamed`	`scripting ?`
`23:28.06`	`zeta3`	`y u use IDEs`
`23:28.44`	`Bounty`	`Do you have to use the mouse moved event in order to get the mouses position?`
`23:28.49`	`Ashamed`	`yes`
`23:28.53`	`Bounty`	`son of afuck`
`23:29.02`	`Ashamed`	`one second bounty`
`23:29.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Yup.`
`23:29.16`	`Ashamed`	`i did something in my map let me look at it and see if it will help you`
`23:30.19`	`Ashamed`	`why do you need to get mouse lcoation?`
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`23:30.23`	`Ashamed`	`movement system or something else/`
`23:30.26`	`Bounty`	`no`
`23:30.30`	`Bounty`	`just unit facing`
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`23:30.51`	`grim001`	`I am using Eclipse because Java is a major pain in the ass to work with without one`
`23:30.52`	`Stimpy77_`	`think birth was it`
`23:30.57`	`grim001`	`without an IDE`
`23:31.14`	`Ashamed`	`ooooh :(`
`23:31.21`	`Ashamed`	`yeah its going to be laggy lol`
`23:31.35`	`Bounty`	`it works good enough`
`23:31.36`	`Bounty`	`its just facing lol`
`23:31.39`	`Bounty`	`no biggie :)`
`23:31.41`	`Bounty`	`my only problem is`
`23:31.47`	`Bounty`	`my WASD uses move unit instantly now`
`23:31.50`	`zeta3`	`when you create a ping - whats the command to make it actually display on the minimap`
`23:31.57`	`zeta3`	`show/hide ping`
`23:31.57`	`Bounty`	`which means pathing will be an issue since it ignores all pathing`
`23:31.58`	`zeta3`	`?`
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`23:33.51`	`JademusSreg`	`Bounty: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/trigger-libraries/19464-triggers-input-capture-system/#p1`
`23:33.52`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`23:34.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Someday I will get you to use it.`
`23:34.19`	`Bounty`	`mother fucker`
`23:34.20`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`23:34.24`	`JademusSreg`	`grim, how's development?`
`23:34.25`	`Bounty`	`how easy is it ti put in?`
`23:34.31`	`JademusSreg`	`It's easy.`
`23:34.43`	`JademusSreg`	`CnP easy.`
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`23:34.50`	`Bounty`	`DLing it now`
`23:35.01`	`Bounty`	`u do realize that this will make my WASD even better jade`
`23:35.10`	`Bounty`	`prolly the best WASD available`
`23:35.11`	`JademusSreg`	`Yay@`
`23:35.12`	`JademusSreg`	`!`
`23:35.14`	`JademusSreg`	`Hahaha`
`23:35.33`	`Bounty`	`opening the map now`
`23:35.56`	`Bounty`	`annd`
`23:35.56`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm assuming Shawn did everything correctly.`
`23:35.56`	`Bounty`	`what the fuck`
`23:35.56`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`23:35.57`	`Bounty`	`why are there pictures of CD's =P`
`23:36.01`	`Bounty`	`alright well`
`23:36.06`	`Bounty`	`i just copy and paste all this right?`
`23:36.12`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`23:36.23`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ScytheBlade1 (~Death@smtp.mail.averageurl.com)`
`23:36.23`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ScytheBlade1 (~Death@about/pxe/ScytheBlade1)`
`23:36.50`	`Bounty`	`wait`
`23:36.54`	`Bounty`	`this still uses triggers dude`
`23:36.57`	`Bounty`	`how is this any differant`
`23:36.59`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`23:37.18`	`Bounty`	`oh wait`
`23:37.22`	`Bounty`	`he turned it into triggers`
`23:37.24`	`Bounty`	`wtf`
`23:37.26`	`Bounty`	`useless!`
`23:37.27`	`Bounty`	`lol`
`23:37.50`	`JademusSreg`	`I have no idea what you are saying. =D`
`23:37.53`	`Bounty`	`alright Jademussreg`
`23:37.58`	`Bounty`	`how do i copy the script`
`23:38.02`	`Bounty`	`bc i DL'd that link u sent`
`23:38.05`	`Bounty`	`and its just triggers lol`
`23:38.13`	`Bounty`	`it transformed ur script into triggers`
`23:38.16`	`Bounty`	`which doesnt help me at all :)`
`23:38.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Why not? It has the same functionality.`
`23:38.54`	`Stimpy77_`	`alright I just published my map publicly .. my first map evar ..`
`23:38.57`	`Bounty`	`its not any better then what i do lol`
`23:38.59`	`Stimpy77_`	`thx for all the help guyz`
`23:39.05`	`Bounty`	`i use variables/booleans to`
`23:39.07`	`JademusSreg`	`No problem.`
`23:39.09`	`Bounty`	`its the same thing`
`23:39.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Apples and oranges are both fruit, yes.`
`23:40.55`	`Bounty`	`sigh :)`
`23:42.54`	`Bounty`	`god i really hate to do this`
`23:43.00`	`Bounty`	`but looks like i have to do a pathing check in my WASD now ><`
`23:43.09`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa (504ed88b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.78.216.139)`
`23:43.18`	`Mexa`	`heyo.`
`23:43.28`	`JademusSreg`	`Hi.`
`23:43.37`	`Mexa`	`What's up?`
`23:44.03`	`JademusSreg`	`Bounty is hating stuff. Ash is helping folks.`
`23:44.19`	`Mexa`	`ok:>`
`23:44.22`	`JademusSreg`	`I am typing.`
`23:44.24`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`23:44.39`	`Mexa`	`And what is Bounty hating?`
`23:44.51`	`JademusSreg`	`<Bounty> god i really hate to do this`
`23:44.51`	`JademusSreg`	`<Bounty> but looks like i have to do a pathing check in my WASD now ><`
`23:44.54`	`Stimpy77_`	`wait, had to remove publish .. forgot one thing .. need to learn how to prohibit dropships from being built`
`23:45.06`	`Mexa`	`oh`
`23:45.57`	`grim001`	`deaod`
`23:46.54`	`Mexa`	`hmm, I'm thinking to implement some recording feature of my character when it is moving. The problem is I suspect it is going to be too slow when implemented.`
`23:47.05`	`Stimpy77_`	`meh .. I'll do that next ver.`
`23:47.05`	`Stimpy77_`	`re-published lol`
`23:47.23`	`grim001`	`hey Jademus, I finally got the GOLD-generated parser running inside java using my grammar.`
`23:47.37`	`grim001`	`one step closer to getting a really basic compiler done.`
`23:47.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Excellent, grim.`
`23:48.27`	`JademusSreg`	`Stimpy, what is your map?`
`23:52.13`	`JademusSreg`	`Mexa, do you mean recording all of its orders or what?`
`23:52.16`	`grim001`	`Mexa, it depends on how many units you run it with.`
`23:52.16`	`grim001`	`you can easily record all of the actions of a few dozen units if the system is coded well`
`23:52.16`	`Stimpy77_`	`@JademusSreg it's called Out Of The Earth`
`23:52.16`	`Stimpy77_`	`.. it's a coop scenario map`
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`23:52.16`	`JademusSreg`	`Stimpy, what's it about?`
`23:52.16`	`Stimpy77_`	`some zerg are climbing up a volcano .. you gotta send units down into the volcano .. they sacrifice themselves killing off the (hidden) brood mother ..`
`23:52.16`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah. That might be fun to test.`
`23:52.18`	`Stimpy77_`	`yer welcome to join, I created a game instance and am in the custom maps chat channel in-game right now, no takers yet .. would love some feedback`
`23:52.19`	`Stimpy77_`	`first map and all`
`23:52.23`	`JademusSreg`	`How many players are supported?`
`23:52.23`	`Stimpy77_`	`4`
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`23:52.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Does the difficulty scale to the number of players?`
`23:52.33`	`Stimpy77_`	`yes, somewhat .. although, not enough .. dammit I knew I forgot something`
`23:52.38`	`JademusSreg`	`Hahaha`
`23:52.56`	`JademusSreg`	`Well, I'm available to test if you want feedback.`
`23:53.11`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Mexa (504ed88b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.78.216.139)`
`23:53.19`	`Stimpy77_`	`cool .. I'm in-game`
`23:53.19`	`Mexa`	`ugh...`
`23:53.30`	`Mexa`	`My network raged on me it seems.`
`23:53.59`	`JademusSreg`	`JademusSreg 950`
`23:54.06`	`grim001`	`[18:48]grim001Mexa, it depends on how many units you run it with.`
`23:54.08`	`grim001`	`[18:49]grim001you can easily record all of the actions of a few dozen units if the system is coded well`
`23:54.18`	`Mexa`	`Well`
`23:54.36`	`Mexa`	`It should so far only record the unit coordinates`
`23:54.43`	`Mexa`	`Say, for a time attack mode.`
`23:55.05`	`JademusSreg`	`What's the time precision?`
`23:55.06`	`Mexa`	`But yeah, I better make it optimized then :>`
`23:55.41`	`Mexa`	`I suppose either a 0 wait or the 0.0625 depeding on gamespeed`
`23:56.03`	`Mexa`	`Maybe that shouldn't be needed though, if it is only going to function as a "ghost"`
`23:56.50`	`grim001`	`you should have no problem doing a 0 loop that records the movement of a unit, thats not nearly enough to strain the game's performance`
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`23:57.21`	`grim001`	`you will need to use a datatable for the entries though, an array would eat a ton of memory and have a finite size limit`

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