| 00:00.30 | Karawasa | I just don't know Vexal |
| 00:00.47 | Karawasa | I mean maverck and progammer are not noob so I would be surprised if they overlooked something obvious |
| 00:01.12 | Karawasa | obviously I wouldn't trust my own editor skills for this task |
| 00:03.32 | Vexal | have you tried just starting in one of the maps with a tower at the bottom of the tech tree, and then adding the next tower one at a time |
| 00:04.41 | Karawasa | no we haven't tried that |
| 00:05.23 | Vexal | you could try that. use the GUI to copy the tower from another map. |
| 00:05.36 | Vexal | then, once the tower is copied completely, create the morph ability. |
| 00:06.00 | Vexal | i don't see how this could malfunction unless it was a fundamental problem with sc2. |
| 00:06.05 | Vexal | in which case, give up. |
| 00:06.34 | Karawasa | lol |
| 00:06.42 | Karawasa | see that's my concern though |
| 00:06.54 | Karawasa | that it may very well be a fundamental bug |
| 00:07.06 | Karawasa | and by doing it in step increment |
| 00:07.13 | Karawasa | we may spend more time finding that out |
| 00:07.23 | Karawasa | compared to just triggering it |
| 00:07.53 | Griffin_ | Vexal or any veteran, can you please go into sc2 and go into my published map for 20 seconds. and Look at a problem that i need addressed |
| 00:08.17 | Skizot | jamn |
| 00:08.19 | Skizot | jman |
| 00:08.27 | Skizot | this needs to be part of your load screen. |
| 00:08.29 | Skizot | http://cdn.duelinganalogs.com/uploads/nurse-joy.jpg |
| 00:08.33 | Vexal | incremental doesn't take too long. just copy and paste everything. |
| 00:08.48 | JManV | that's not right skiz :P |
| 00:08.54 | Vexal | griffin_ message vexal 525 |
| 00:08.56 | Griffin_ | ty ty |
| 00:09.05 | Skizot | well you COULD use the colored version... |
| 00:09.06 | Skizot | http://cdn.duelinganalogs.com/comics/2010-07-29.jpg |
| 00:09.43 | JManV | :) |
| 00:09.56 | JManV | i don't think i can use either |
| 00:10.45 | Vexal | the pokebra is shoddy |
| 00:10.50 | Vexal | i tried it and it breaks if you move around too much |
| 00:10.56 | Griffin_ | invited u |
| 00:11.07 | JManV | who cares? |
| 00:11.18 | Vexal | i'm just warning you |
| 00:11.21 | JManV | we want it to break |
| 00:11.21 | Vexal | buyer beware. |
| 00:11.28 | Vexal | hmm. |
| 00:11.30 | Vexal | that makes sense. |
| 00:13.33 | JManV | man, i can not get this panel to the top of the screen |
| 00:14.14 | Karawasa | so |
| 00:14.25 | Karawasa | vexal |
| 00:14.31 | Karawasa | there was an idea tossed out at mapster |
| 00:14.39 | Karawasa | apparently there is a limit on number of abilities for unit |
| 00:14.53 | JManV | http://pastebin.com/Yt3kwR7q |
| 00:14.54 | Karawasa | and the idea is that units linked with morph have a cumulative effect |
| 00:15.02 | Karawasa | so you can reach that limit fast |
| 00:15.07 | Karawasa | and thus buttons start going away |
| 00:15.21 | JManV | anyone see anything wrong with that? |
| 00:16.05 | JManV | trying to get the info panel to the top of the screen |
| 00:16.11 | JManV | its putting it in the middle |
| 00:17.44 | Vexal | is there proof there is a cumulative effect karawasa ? |
| 00:17.49 | Vexal | or was that just a postulation. |
| 00:17.54 | Karawasa | no just someone said it was their experience in the past |
| 00:18.06 | Karawasa | and it would explain why deleting all non-morph abilities fixes this |
| 00:18.14 | Karawasa | and then recreating them one by one eventually breaks it again |
| 00:18.19 | Karawasa | hit the limit at #10 or so |
| 00:21.30 | Vexal | did the buttons on the towers work before they were linked with morphs? |
| 00:21.49 | Vexal | if they don't work before adding the morphs, then i don't think that's your problem. |
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| 00:23.18 | Karawasa | they do |
| 00:23.22 | Karawasa | if you just make it passive |
| 00:23.24 | Karawasa | linked to nothing |
| 00:23.29 | Karawasa | works fine |
| 00:23.36 | Purity | Hey guys. Quick question: every time I go to my map & test it, the game ends immediately as if I have no opponent, yet two start locations have been added. What else do I have to add to make sure that it adds an AI to the slot? |
| 00:23.38 | Karawasa | only when linked to certain morph abilities does it break |
| 00:23.48 | Karawasa | and that "certain" can change |
| 00:24.03 | Karawasa | so there is nothing special about a particular morph that is causing this |
| 00:25.22 | Purity | ..? |
| 00:26.22 | grim001 | Purity are you trying to make a melee map? |
| 00:26.27 | Purity | Yes. |
| 00:26.44 | Purity | but for testing purposes i need an ai in the other slot |
| 00:26.52 | Karawasa | hey grim001 |
| 00:26.58 | Karawasa | I had a quick trigger question |
| 00:27.04 | grim001 | I'm sure there's an option to add an AI to the other slot somewhere, but I haven't done it. |
| 00:27.16 | grim001 | try finding player properties or something like that. |
| 00:27.43 | grim001 | yes karawasa? |
| 00:27.53 | Karawasa | so basically we are handling tower upgrades with trigger |
| 00:28.05 | Karawasa | would it be better to have one giant trigger with a bunch of if then else |
| 00:28.13 | Karawasa | or a bunch of trigger one for each upgrade |
| 00:29.29 | grim001 | probably neither, you should probably be able to do it with an array and some logic. |
| 00:30.05 | grim001 | the logic is basically... if tower is this, turn it in to this, correct? |
| 00:30.10 | Karawasa | yes |
| 00:30.16 | grim001 | use a datatable |
| 00:30.38 | grim001 | as the key, the tower that is upgrading, as the entry, the thing it upgrades into. |
| 00:30.48 | Karawasa | hmm |
| 00:30.57 | Karawasa | interesting |
| 00:30.59 | Vexal | don't listen to him. |
| 00:31.07 | Vexal | that's way more annoying than you need. |
| 00:31.13 | tordy | sup |
| 00:31.15 | grim001 | um, that would be a 1 line trigger. |
| 00:31.20 | grim001 | why the fuck wouldn't you do it that way? |
| 00:31.20 | Vexal | sure it might sound elegant and fancy to throw around buzzwords like "datatable" and |
| 00:31.23 | Vexal | array |
| 00:31.25 | Vexal | and "logic" |
| 00:31.41 | grim001 | surely a list of 300 if/then/else statements is much easier to deal with |
| 00:31.54 | Vexal | i changed my mind your way is better. |
| 00:31.55 | Karawasa | mainly worried about performance, maintainence not an issue |
| 00:32.01 | Vexal | there's no performance issue. |
| 00:32.07 | Vexal | with either. |
| 00:32.09 | tordy | what yall talkin about! |
| 00:32.11 | Karawasa | this trigger never changes |
| 00:32.24 | tordy | i smell data structures! |
| 00:32.27 | Deaod | if then else performs worse than a datatable lookup with sufficient towers |
| 00:32.27 | tordy | and it smells good! |
| 00:32.38 | Deaod | so go for the datatable |
| 00:32.50 | grim001 | karawasa, datatable would be by far the fastest way. |
| 00:33.04 | tordy | what's a datatable again |
| 00:33.09 | tordy | what exactly is it |
| 00:33.18 | tordy | is it like a hashmap |
| 00:33.22 | Deaod | 2D hashtable |
| 00:33.23 | grim001 | it would probably take 1 or 2 or 3 if/then/else for it to be slower than a single datatable lookup |
| 00:33.46 | grim001 | i would guess just 1 would be around the same speed and 2 would probably be slower... |
| 00:33.53 | Karawasa | ah |
| 00:33.55 | Vexal | well |
| 00:33.59 | Vexal | speed isn't an issue |
| 00:34.04 | Vexal | even if you have 300 if's consecutively |
| 00:34.09 | tordy | it'd be a negligible difference anyway |
| 00:34.16 | tordy | w/e easier to implemnt |
| 00:34.31 | grim001 | true, but when speed and readability happen to be maximized by the same solution it's a good thing. |
| 00:34.36 | Vexal | your computer can to a gajillion billion calculations and still have time for at least 3 more calculations plus more calculations. |
| 00:34.56 | tordy | what are you implementing |
| 00:35.10 | Deaod | SC2s VM cant do that many calculations though |
| 00:35.11 | tordy | my butt |
| 00:35.36 | Vexal | it can do "enough" |
| 00:35.44 | Deaod | and SC2s VM sucks ass, as was established by Zoxc's benchmarks early in the beta |
| 00:35.53 | Vexal | just do whatever you find easier. in this case, it doesn't matter. |
| 00:36.36 | tordy | Vexal's Tower Deeeeeee |
| 00:36.51 | Karawasa | ok |
| 00:37.00 | Karawasa | thank you for the insight guys |
| 00:37.04 | tordy | Karawasa you know where Stragus disappeared to |
| 00:37.10 | Karawasa | nope |
| 00:37.13 | tordy | :( |
| 00:37.14 | Karawasa | not sure what happened |
| 00:37.17 | Karawasa | obfuscation is dead :( |
| 00:37.21 | tordy | noooooooooo |
| 00:38.01 | tordy | can you add "Struct" to his source and then compile it for me |
| 00:38.51 | tordy | i mean the scNameDeclList |
| 00:38.55 | tordy | add "Struct" to it |
| 00:39.04 | tordy | i mean "struct" |
| 00:40.20 | Vexal | karawasa my map is self obfuscating. i started by naming everything 'a' 'aa' 'aaa' eventually i hit the character limit so i followed iwth 'b' 'bb' 'bb' etc |
| 00:40.25 | Vexal | 'bbb'* |
| 00:40.28 | Karawasa | rofl |
| 00:40.50 | Vexal | i didn't do it with the intention of obfuscation. it's just the way my mind most efficiently handles data. |
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| 00:41.28 | Deaod | wtf Vexal |
| 00:41.42 | Vexal | ? |
| 00:42.11 | Deaod | have fun figuring out what the hell all those objects are after a year of not looking at them |
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| 00:43.23 | grim001 | Vexal that is universally considered bad practice in programming/scripting |
| 00:43.29 | Vexal | i was joking. |
| 00:43.30 | Vexal | gosh. |
| 00:44.00 | Deaod | . . . |
| 00:44.04 | Deaod | really? |
| 00:46.19 | Karawasa | you never know with him ;) |
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| 00:48.14 | tordy | im hungry |
| 00:48.54 | JManV | is there a way i can make an ability not close a command card submenu when used? |
| 00:49.08 | JManV | specifically a build ability |
| 00:49.20 | tordy | i wish |
| 00:50.21 | JManV | i guess i'll deal then |
| 00:50.36 | Karawasa | any of you guys upgrade to FF 4 |
| 00:50.43 | Karawasa | ? |
| 00:50.51 | JManV | ? |
| 00:50.57 | Karawasa | firefox |
| 00:51.03 | JManV | oh, no |
| 00:51.06 | JManV | IE for me |
| 00:51.09 | Karawasa | !!! |
| 00:51.18 | Karawasa | why? |
| 00:51.19 | Deaod | yes. |
| 00:51.23 | JManV | cuz |
| 00:51.39 | JManV | numerous reasons. some that no longer apply. |
| 00:51.39 | Karawasa | deaod is it me or does FF now wait until page is loaded before displaying it |
| 00:51.51 | Deaod | could be |
| 00:52.02 | Karawasa | it almost seems slower |
| 00:52.03 | Karawasa | but I know it isn't |
| 00:52.07 | Karawasa | just feels different |
| 00:52.10 | Deaod | hmmm |
| 00:52.27 | Deaod | maybe theres an option buried in about:config |
| 00:52.32 | Karawasa | ya I was hoping so |
| 00:52.38 | Karawasa | not sure what it would be called though |
| 00:52.45 | Karawasa | tried searching for paint, delay, display |
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| 01:01.30 | Karawasa | gl hf all |
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| 01:02.14 | thekill | hey |
| 01:02.20 | thekill | i reinstalled my starcraft 2 |
| 01:02.24 | thekill | and map editor still dont work |
| 01:03.13 | Skizot | jmanv! |
| 01:03.18 | Skizot | you HAVE to have this pokemans! |
| 01:03.20 | Skizot | http://cdn.duelinganalogs.com/comics/2009-09-21.png |
| 01:05.59 | thekill | somebody help me? |
| 01:06.12 | thekill | i cant get my thing to open |
| 01:06.16 | thekill | i reinstalled it |
| 01:06.20 | thekill | still wont open |
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| 01:30.50 | MrOp | anyone aline |
| 01:30.51 | MrOp | alive |
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| 01:32.33 | Deaod | yes |
| 01:36.41 | MrOp | how do i make damage apear over a unit taking damage |
| 01:36.49 | Kueken | well... if you ask me if I consider myself alive... |
| 01:36.54 | MrOp | XD |
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| 01:37.21 | Kueken | you mean, like a number appearing at the overhead of the unit or something? |
| 01:37.27 | MrOp | yea |
| 01:37.49 | Kueken | easiest way would probably a trigger |
| 01:38.08 | Kueken | event: any unt gets damaged by any effect |
| 01:38.18 | Kueken | action: |
| 01:38.26 | Kueken | something like create text tag |
| 01:38.38 | MrOp | i want the text tage to shoot up in the air as well |
| 01:39.06 | Kueken | well, look at the settings and try to figure it out? |
| 01:39.14 | Kueken | I never used texttags myself |
| 01:39.17 | MrOp | o |
| 01:40.10 | MrOp | uh how does it know to show the damage and why type of damage |
| 01:40.54 | Kueken | well, you need to specify the text it shows |
| 01:41.03 | Kueken | and you can select functions for it |
| 01:41.10 | Kueken | like convert fixed to text |
| 01:41.50 | Kueken | *real |
| 01:42.16 | Kueken | and as a real, you can pick the triggering damage amount |
| 01:42.35 | Kueken | which obviously would be the damage dealt to the unit |
| 01:43.15 | Kueken | damage type is another story, if there is no native function for it, you might want to use a CatalogGetValue for the triggering damage effect |
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| 01:49.25 | JademusSreg | I have fallen ill. |
| 01:51.37 | JManV | bummer |
| 01:51.52 | Vexal | hahahahahaha |
| 01:52.03 | Vexal | @ jademussreg |
| 01:52.21 | JManV | that's not very nice |
| 01:53.15 | Vexal | i can't help it. |
| 01:53.27 | Vexal | i was cursed with a complete lack of social tact. |
| 02:02.41 | Deaod | hope its not anything serious |
| 02:03.15 | Vexal | serious illness only happens in the movies. |
| 02:03.17 | Vexal | he'll be fine. |
| 02:03.26 | Deaod | really? |
| 02:04.05 | Vexal | yeah. |
| 02:04.24 | Deaod | then cancer must be a work of fiction. |
| 02:05.01 | Vexal | cancer's not illness. its your own cells enacting mutiny. |
| 02:05.08 | Vexal | and if they win, maybe they deserve it. |
| 02:05.28 | Deaod | cancers a fucking illness. |
| 02:05.38 | grim001 | jademus has cancer? :< |
| 02:05.48 | Deaod | thats not what i want to imply. |
| 02:05.58 | Deaod | i dont know. |
| 02:06.12 | grim001 | :P |
| 02:06.29 | Deaod | i just dont agree with Vexal that serious illnesses only happen in movies. |
| 02:06.45 | Vexal | can no one tell when i'm being sarcastic |
| 02:06.53 | Deaod | no. |
| 02:06.59 | Vexal | i don't get it |
| 02:07.06 | Vexal | what kind of retard would think you can only get sick in the movies |
| 02:07.32 | Deaod | and then claim cancers not an illness? |
| 02:07.46 | Kueken | well, depends on the point of view |
| 02:07.58 | Vexal | i just don't see how this is any point of debate |
| 02:08.06 | Vexal | of course cancer is an illness and of course you can get sick in real life. |
| 02:08.07 | Kueken | on a global scale, cancer might be the cure for our planet from us ;) |
| 02:08.34 | Deaod | btw, grim, i got function Overriding and Overloading in place. |
| 02:09.21 | grim001 | vexal, some people have the ability to detect sarcasm over the internet and some people don't, but I think you have the lack of ability to project sarcasm over the internet |
| 02:09.31 | Vexal | my ability is just fine. |
| 02:09.42 | Vexal | you have to be looking for subtlety |
| 02:09.59 | JademusSreg | Not cancer ill, though. Possibly flu or food-borne pathogen. |
| 02:10.06 | Vexal | see i told you. |
| 02:10.11 | Vexal | he's not really sick. |
| 02:10.15 | JademusSreg | Which is to say nothing serious. |
| 02:10.22 | JademusSreg | Just fucking inconvenient. |
| 02:10.26 | Vexal | and with big words like "pathogen" and "food-borne" |
| 02:10.32 | grim001 | deaod how developed is the AST? |
| 02:10.34 | Vexal | he's going to be fine. |
| 02:10.51 | grim001 | my approach would be to keep working on the abstraction of the language until it seems very easy to implement almost any feature. |
| 02:11.01 | Deaod | whats left is to parse the contents of functions. |
| 02:11.12 | grim001 | i.e. the hard part :P |
| 02:11.15 | Deaod | yes. |
| 02:12.19 | Deaod | oh, and struct variable reads |
| 02:13.50 | grim001 | I can just imagine that when the language is fully abstracted it'll actually be fun to implement stuff. |
| 02:13.59 | Deaod | yes |
| 02:14.01 | grim001 | dealing with arrays and strings gets boring. |
| 02:15.26 | Deaod | also, ill probably have to rewrite the Parser engine so i can get the position of tokens inside the files |
| 02:16.42 | Deaod | the engines code doesnt even use generics |
| 02:18.26 | Deaod | so yeah, its far from done. |
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| 02:54.29 | RyanTM | Do leaderboard progress bars work? |
| 02:55.53 | RyanTM | oh, they do you just have to Show them first. |
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| 02:59.45 | abstruse | moo |
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| 03:04.23 | MrOp | sup leb |
| 03:08.17 | RyanTM | During Map initialization are Players not set to Playing? |
| 03:09.30 | RyanTM | never mind, I'm dumb. |
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| 03:21.45 | MrOp | does anyone here know anything about texttags |
| 03:22.36 | RyanTM | MrOp: yep |
| 03:24.48 | MrOp | so |
| 03:24.59 | MrOp | i have the text creating damage |
| 03:25.04 | MrOp | or damage done |
| 03:25.19 | MrOp | but it wont appear of ther units head that is taking the damage |
| 03:25.44 | MrOp | ryan this is what i have |
| 03:25.57 | MrOp | also as a side note i want it to fade out and it not doing that |
| 03:25.59 | MrOp | ... |
| 03:26.00 | MrOp | .. |
| 03:26.02 | MrOp | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:26.02 | MrOp | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:26.02 | MrOp | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:26.02 | MrOp | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:26.02 | MrOp | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:26.02 | MrOp | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:26.02 | MrOp | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:26.51 | MrOp | ryan |
| 03:26.58 | RyanTM | Instead of (Dmage source position) do (Triggering unit) |
| 03:27.15 | MrOp | in the text tag right |
| 03:27.25 | RyanTM | yes |
| 03:27.38 | MrOp | that is not an option |
| 03:27.39 | MrOp | sigh |
| 03:28.21 | RyanTM | oh, it's like Location of triggering unit |
| 03:28.23 | RyanTM | or something like that |
| 03:28.30 | RyanTM | you need to convert triggering unit into location |
| 03:28.42 | MrOp | how do i do that |
| 03:29.16 | MrOp | i dont even have triggering unit |
| 03:29.20 | MrOp | i have dmg sorce |
| 03:29.25 | MrOp | postion of unit |
| 03:29.28 | RyanTM | (Position of (Triggering unit)) |
| 03:30.14 | MrOp | uh |
| 03:30.30 | MrOp | lol i tried like 5x and nothing happen |
| 03:30.55 | MrOp | and now it work |
| 03:30.57 | MrOp | XD |
| 03:31.01 | MrOp | w/e |
| 03:31.02 | MrOp | thanks |
| 03:31.13 | MrOp | so what about getting it to fade over time |
| 03:32.18 | RyanTM | How about Set Time of Text Tag? |
| 03:33.26 | MrOp | well it fade out |
| 03:34.00 | Deaod | http://deaod.de/BitwiseOperators.txt -- updated with more examples |
| 03:40.46 | MrOp | thanks ryan |
| 03:40.57 | RyanTM | you're welcome |
| 03:44.28 | MrOp | hay ryan |
| 03:45.42 | MrOp | if i wanted to do the same thing for whenever a unit uses energy |
| 03:45.52 | MrOp | how would i set that up i know i can |
| 03:46.03 | MrOp | set it in data |
| 03:46.27 | MrOp | but i need to be able to see how long it last and how fast it goes up |
| 03:57.25 | RyanTM | MrOp: sorry, I don't know, is there a condition for using energy like there is for being damaged? |
| 04:01.39 | MrOp | uh i am looking |
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| 04:03.15 | MrOp | ryan |
| 04:03.24 | MrOp | how do i acces the weapon |
| 04:03.24 | grim001 | ... |
| 04:03.29 | MrOp | i know i can use catalog |
| 04:03.36 | MrOp | but i am not really sure how it works |
| 04:03.49 | grim001 | no one has downloaded my autocomplete/syntax thing |
| 04:03.51 | grim001 | sad face |
| 04:03.54 | JademusSreg | Sorry. |
| 04:03.58 | JademusSreg | I've been ill. |
| 04:03.59 | grim001 | I know you're sick |
| 04:04.01 | JademusSreg | Link? |
| 04:04.04 | JademusSreg | I shall do it immediately. |
| 04:04.07 | MrOp | idk what it is |
| 04:04.08 | grim001 | But no one else downloaded it either :P |
| 04:04.24 | grim001 | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/galaxy-scripting-and-trigger-lib/20090-updated-autocomplete-and-syntax-highlighting-for-galaxy/#p1 |
| 04:09.18 | JademusSreg | I had intended to implement it earlier, but have been distracted by various things. |
| 04:10.08 | Motive | @grim: just did it now |
| 04:10.12 | Motive | been meaning to since i saw the post |
| 04:10.14 | Motive | looks great :) |
| 04:10.43 | Motive | Looks like string recognition is a little weird though |
| 04:11.07 | Motive | in some places it just parses the rest of the file as a string |
| 04:11.07 | Motive | Lol |
| 04:11.28 | Motive | Looks like it has an issue with escaped strings |
| 04:12.15 | RyanTM | I'm being retarded: I can't find the action that plays announcer numbers, but I found it yesterday, it's the second action in this post http://starcraft2mods.com/blog/tutorials/announcer-sounds/ Does anyone know the name to search for for that action? |
| 04:12.29 | RyanTM | MrOp: I don't understand what you are asking. |
| 04:12.56 | grim001 | Motive, show me an example |
| 04:13.11 | grim001 | send me a text file that has problems with strings |
| 04:13.19 | Motive | should be easy to duplicate |
| 04:13.20 | Motive | just do |
| 04:13.27 | Motive | string s = "\"Test. Problem?"; |
| 04:13.33 | grim001 | um |
| 04:13.47 | grim001 | that'd be notepad++'s fault if it's an issue |
| 04:14.06 | Motive | Ah, ok |
| 04:14.07 | grim001 | but that is not what happens for me |
| 04:14.17 | grim001 | it sees "\" as a string |
| 04:14.19 | Motive | libcrtx_write(PlayerGroupSingle(EventPlayer()), "<c val=\"ff0000\">Unable to create the effect.</c>"); |
| 04:14.23 | Motive | that line is parsed as |
| 04:14.29 | Motive | ending the quote at the \" |
| 04:14.42 | Motive | and then starting a new quote at the "); |
| 04:14.57 | grim001 | yeah that's two bugs in one |
| 04:15.29 | Deaod | \ inside strings doesnt escape but does escape outside strings |
| 04:15.29 | JademusSreg | It looks lovely. |
| 04:15.32 | JademusSreg | I use font size 10, though. =) |
| 04:15.33 | Deaod | interesting |
| 04:15.49 | grim001 | what is the escape character for galaxy? |
| 04:15.52 | Motive | \ |
| 04:16.01 | grim001 | ok |
| 04:16.14 | grim001 | I'm going to double check that then upload the corrected version |
| 04:16.17 | Deaod | https://7chan.org/fl/src/the_Golden_Age_of_Video_v2.swf |
| 04:16.17 | grim001 | but if you want to fix it easily |
| 04:16.33 | grim001 | just change the escape character in the style configurator |
| 04:16.44 | grim001 | it parses correctly if you do s |
| 04:16.46 | grim001 | o |
| 04:16.47 | Deaod | NSFW site, SFW link |
| 04:18.00 | grim001 | indeed the escape character was incorrect |
| 04:18.06 | JademusSreg | Oh god. The way the Twilight style highlights XML makes me want to gouge out my eyes. |
| 04:18.11 | Motive | xD |
| 04:18.13 | JademusSreg | I'll need to change that sometime. |
| 04:18.34 | grim001 | :P |
| 04:18.51 | grim001 | Jademus, make sure you fix that escape character too. |
| 04:18.59 | JademusSreg | I did. |
| 04:19.20 | Motive | lols it was / |
| 04:19.33 | JademusSreg | "Let's highlight xml fields with a goddamn yellow bubble so no one can read it." |
| 04:19.34 | Motive | Looks pretty and fixed now :) |
| 04:20.14 | JademusSreg | Wait, now I'm confused. Which is it? |
| 04:20.21 | Motive | Escape char is \ |
| 04:20.25 | Motive | it was incorrectly put in as / |
| 04:20.37 | JademusSreg | Alright. Great. Then I fixed it. =) |
| 04:20.39 | MrOp | does anyone know how catalogs work |
| 04:20.45 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 04:20.47 | Motive | they're catalogarific. |
| 04:20.49 | JademusSreg | Magic. |
| 04:21.00 | MrOp | can you explain it from GUI trigger point of veiw |
| 04:21.04 | JademusSreg | But seriously, could you be more specific? |
| 04:21.04 | MrOp | (_ _) |
| 04:21.12 | JademusSreg | It's just a look up of the object data, |
| 04:21.17 | Motive | Ehhh |
| 04:21.23 | MrOp | well i am trying to find a vitals field for one of my weapons |
| 04:21.25 | grim001 | fixed version is uploaded. |
| 04:21.30 | Motive | Explaining it through the data editor is like trying to eat a steak with a spoon |
| 04:21.42 | Motive | fuck that shit, open GameData/UnitData.xml and all will be made clear |
| 04:21.43 | grim001 | Jademus, XML looks OK to me. |
| 04:21.50 | grim001 | Maybe I changed it somehow. |
| 04:22.02 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 04:22.08 | MrOp | and i wanted to create text tag that is linked to vitals |
| 04:22.27 | JademusSreg | I really need to update it, get rid of that field background highlighting. |
| 04:22.28 | Motive | I need to practice my melee :| |
| 04:22.33 | Motive | EagleAI kicks ass btw |
| 04:22.41 | JademusSreg | Practicing melee is a lost cause. =D |
| 04:23.04 | grim001 | XML looks like this to me: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/22137420/XML.png |
| 04:23.05 | JademusSreg | I don't see much value in becoming barely competent at something I don't enjoy. |
| 04:23.14 | Motive | I was playing EagleAI on medium and I was all psh this will be easy shit, medium AI is like a walk in the park |
| 04:23.21 | Motive | and then it attacked and I had to actually think and micro to recover |
| 04:23.26 | Motive | definitely improving my skills :) |
| 04:23.50 | grim001 | Jademus what screen resolution do you run at? |
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| 04:24.01 | Motive | in other news, iTunes on windows sucks |
| 04:24.16 | grim001 | because font size 10 at 1680x1050 doesn't seem pleasant to me |
| 04:24.17 | JademusSreg | Hm. I forget. One moment. |
| 04:24.51 | JademusSreg | 1920 * 1080 |
| 04:25.11 | grim001 | tiny tiny text for you then |
| 04:25.23 | Deaod | well |
| 04:25.28 | Motive | wooo +1 for 1680x1050 |
| 04:25.32 | Motive | though I prefer 1920x1080 :( |
| 04:25.41 | Motive | I need to buy a new monitor. Lol |
| 04:25.46 | JademusSreg | I like seeing as much of a script as I can at a glance. |
| 04:27.29 | JademusSreg | I need to prevent xml from back highlighting fields. Ugh. |
| 04:27.46 | grim001 | well, the whole setup works with any font or font size as long as you set it as the global override. but if you change it in the style options, spaces will not match up, and it will look screwed up. |
| 04:28.15 | grim001 | i really wonder what % of notepad++ users have spaces that are not the same font as the rest of their screen. |
| 04:28.22 | grim001 | and wonder why their monospace fonts aren't really lining up properly. |
| 04:29.41 | JManV | sweetness |
| 04:29.57 | JManV | i decided to name my buildings with strings and use data tables to retrieve the info |
| 04:30.02 | JManV | works well |
| 04:30.10 | JademusSreg | Yay. |
| 04:30.13 | JademusSreg | I'm very glad. |
| 04:30.14 | JManV | and is a much more convenient way to refer to buildings |
| 04:30.29 | JManV | as well as named points within those buildings |
| 04:30.56 | grim001 | Jademus just out of curiousity, did you actually follow all 30 of the steps in the included readme? I'm wondering if XML would misbehave if you did |
| 04:31.06 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 04:31.21 | JademusSreg | And it's just that the Twilight theme always does this to xml for me. |
| 04:31.29 | Deaod | http://deaod.de/SS_001.JPG this is how my desktop is currently organized |
| 04:31.38 | Deaod | yes, thats 10pt Dina everywhere |
| 04:32.44 | Deaod | not too hard to read. |
| 04:32.45 | grim001 | to xml specifically? I know I used to have a similar issue then I did something which "fixed" it |
| 04:33.10 | JademusSreg | grim, what do you see if you select an xml field within brackets? |
| 04:33.10 | JManV | windows xp. weird |
| 04:33.16 | Deaod | ? |
| 04:33.21 | Deaod | whats weird about it? |
| 04:33.30 | JademusSreg | My desktop: http://i.imgur.com/QksRZ.jpg |
| 04:33.35 | JManV | see more 7 than xp these days |
| 04:33.37 | grim001 | oh yeah, it highlights with a yellow bubble as you pointed out |
| 04:33.45 | grim001 | I guess that does look funky |
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| 04:33.58 | JademusSreg | Yes grim, it is positively unbearable. |
| 04:34.05 | Deaod | yeah, well, i dont want to spend 150 bucks on a new version of windows just et |
| 04:34.17 | Deaod | yet* |
| 04:35.10 | grim001 | I wish it were possible to make the style work without forcing people to switch to Twilight, but I've tried. |
| 04:35.10 | Nash|327 | 150 bucks? |
| 04:35.11 | Nash|327 | D: |
| 04:35.26 | JademusSreg | I'll fix it eventually. |
| 04:35.36 | JademusSreg | But I don't care to at the moment. =D |
| 04:36.04 | Nash|327 | I'd never pay that for, well, any software :/ |
| 04:36.45 | Deaod | Win7 Ultimate - System Builder: 150 Euros |
| 04:37.18 | JManV | yeah i can't remember the last time i paid for windows |
| 04:37.25 | Nash|327 | 150 EUROS!? |
| 04:37.29 | Nash|327 | That's even worse D: |
| 04:37.44 | JManV | i got windows xp home edition on my mini laptop, but never used it :P |
| 04:38.21 | Deaod | well, Home Premium System Builder only costs around 90 Euros |
| 04:38.23 | JademusSreg | I enjoy Twilight, of course. But argh the yellow, I hate yellow, fucking up my xml viewing. |
| 04:38.33 | JademusSreg | Anyway, did I miss anything interesting? |
| 04:38.45 | grim001 | I don't know why I didn't switch to a dark background for scripting earlier |
| 04:38.46 | Nash|327 | I got Windows 7 with this computer |
| 04:38.58 | Deaod | yeah, you got an OEM version |
| 04:39.08 | grim001 | it's not exactly an eye strain issue, but it is more relaxing to have a dark background. |
| 04:39.16 | Deaod | probably Home Premium |
| 04:39.20 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 04:39.21 | Nash|327 | Well, I never bother changing OS |
| 04:39.46 | Nash|327 | Windows 7 does crash less though. |
| 04:39.47 | JademusSreg | Pretty much everything in here is black, anyway. =D |
| 04:40.01 | Deaod | i need white background, so i can actually see the keyboard :D |
| 04:40.09 | grim001 | see the keyboard? psh |
| 04:40.16 | grim001 | key one with glowing keys |
| 04:40.20 | grim001 | or don't look at all :P |
| 04:40.24 | Nash|327 | Yeah, there are letters on the keys |
| 04:40.36 | Nash|327 | So you know what pushing them produces. |
| 04:41.23 | Nash|327 | I guess you could stick to random mashing, but communication is more complex than a fighting game. |
| 04:42.05 | JademusSreg | Black case, black monitor, black keyboard, black speakers, black mouse, black table, black desktop, black leather chair, all in a black room occupied by a sole inhabitant dressed it black sealed off from the black night by black curtains. |
| 04:42.18 | grim001 | sounds good |
| 04:42.21 | JademusSreg | Also, black. |
| 04:42.33 | grim001 | I've been making everything black since reformatting this computer |
| 04:42.49 | grim001 | firefox 4 themes are fun |
| 04:43.39 | Nash|327 | Sounds emo. |
| 04:43.40 | JademusSreg | I use Chrome. |
| 04:44.14 | Deaod | btw, does your FF4 sometimes crash on startup as well? |
| 04:44.31 | grim001 | the only thing that isn't black is the background of this chat, which I am too accustomed to being white |
| 04:44.37 | grim001 | to bother to change it |
| 04:44.52 | grim001 | no, do you have any weird addons installed? |
| 04:45.02 | Nash|327 | I hate white backgrounds. |
| 04:45.07 | Deaod | nothing particularly weird. |
| 04:45.08 | Nash|327 | My poor eyes. |
| 04:45.17 | Deaod | adblock plus |
| 04:45.21 | Deaod | noscript |
| 04:45.25 | Deaod | firebug |
| 04:45.47 | JademusSreg | There is no emo. Just another derogatory, dehumanizing slur wielded like a lasso to round up whatever silly thing people don't like. |
| 04:45.47 | Nash|327 | Ask Jeeves toolbar |
| 04:46.00 | Deaod | extended statusbar |
| 04:46.03 | Deaod | showip |
| 04:46.21 | Deaod | rest is currently disabled |
| 04:46.46 | grim001 | out of those, I haven't used extended statusbar or showip, so they are the only things I know of that might be to blame. |
| 04:46.56 | Nash|327 | There are no subcultures! Just a bunch of people who are all being different by all being the same! |
| 04:47.42 | grim001 | I've got this great addon that gives google and the SERP a dark-gray background. |
| 04:47.43 | JademusSreg | High school kids are listening to angsty young adults scream asynchronously to poorly emulated mashups of whatever happens to be popular? That's not emo, it's just children being predictably stupid, perfectly natural. |
| 04:48.01 | Deaod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVygqjyS4CA |
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| 04:49.25 | Nash|327 | Oh, so we're doing the semantics thing now? |
| 04:49.30 | Nash|327 | I see. |
| 04:50.10 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka |
| 04:50.29 | Nash|327 | This is Africa? |
| 04:53.08 | totlmstr | Is this chat area normally quiet around this time? |
| 04:53.22 | totlmstr | I mean...there should be more people talking... |
| 04:53.49 | Nash|327 | I could fill the channel with more nonsense if it pleases you. |
| 04:54.00 | totlmstr | *keeps on glancing at long list* |
| 04:54.10 | Nash|327 | Any content is good content, right? |
| 04:54.31 | totlmstr | No nonsense....aw, screw it! Go crazy! |
| 04:54.42 | Nash|327 | I put kittuns in bags. |
| 04:54.50 | Nash|327 | They are cute, especially in bags. |
| 04:55.04 | Nash|327 | Paper bags are best for kittun bagging. |
| 04:55.45 | Nash|327 | Kittun bagging should be practiced every day. |
| 04:56.36 | Nash|327 | It can be done accompanied by this song: http://kittuns.ytmnd.com/ |
| 04:56.52 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 04:57.20 | JademusSreg | It is a fairly active channel. |
| 04:57.28 | totlmstr | Well, that was good for a few minutes... |
| 04:57.35 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 04:57.42 | totlmstr | At least something came in here... |
| 04:57.46 | totlmstr | oh boy |
| 04:57.48 | Vexal | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/20059-smashcraft-icjug/#p10 |
| 04:57.48 | JademusSreg | So what's up tot? |
| 04:58.09 | totlmstr | "tot"??? lol |
| 04:58.39 | totlmstr | I was wondering about the mapping, but since nobody's talking in here... |
| 04:58.57 | totlmstr | v1.3 specifically |
| 04:59.07 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka |
| 04:59.07 | Nash|327 | That is a prerequisite for your wondering? |
| 04:59.13 | JademusSreg | I saw that Vexal. |
| 04:59.27 | Vexal | what the fuck is wrong with people. |
| 04:59.41 | totlmstr | rofl |
| 04:59.44 | JademusSreg | tot, we talk about mapping at least half the time, perhaps upwards of 3/4 the time. |
| 05:00.08 | totlmstr | and the other 1/4th is this s*** |
| 05:00.17 | JademusSreg | Yes. Shit. |
| 05:00.33 | JademusSreg | So about what were you wondering concerning mapping specifically? |
| 05:01.04 | totlmstr | The new camera update. |
| 05:01.17 | totlmstr | Apparently, there's new controls for it in the editor. |
| 05:01.32 | totlmstr | Anybody had good luck with testing it? |
| 05:01.45 | JademusSreg | They added one new camera native, iirc. |
| 05:02.10 | JademusSreg | native void CameraSetData (playergroup players, string cameraId); |
| 05:03.47 | Vexal | hey, they're the one scouring the internet for my facebook |
| 05:03.58 | Vexal | it's not like i go around adding people i meet on starcraft. |
| 05:05.05 | JademusSreg | Vexal, that is a bit creepy. "anonymous" wakka wakka |
| 05:05.21 | Vexal | is it my unibrow? |
| 05:05.23 | Vexal | because i don't have one anymore. |
| 05:05.27 | Vexal | i just did during puberty. |
| 05:05.33 | JademusSreg | "Join date 85 minutes ago" |
| 05:05.41 | totlmstr | Is Wakka Wakka your tag line now, Jad? |
| 05:06.14 | JademusSreg | It is a reference to Fozzy Bear's "wocka wocka wocka". |
| 05:06.38 | JademusSreg | But I don't like that spelling, so I go with "wakka" instead. |
| 05:06.39 | Nash|327 | You shouldn't add your mom on Facebook anyway. |
| 05:06.57 | totlmstr | Thought it had something to do with Final Fantasy... |
| 05:07.26 | JademusSreg | Naw, most Final Fantasy games are disappoint to put it mildly. |
| 05:07.57 | Nash|327 | I have never played any. |
| 05:08.04 | totlmstr | I believe VII pops up too much... |
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| 05:08.09 | Nash|327 | But I pretty much hate anything Asian in general. |
| 05:08.11 | JademusSreg | Wakka in Final Fantasy Ten was all kinds of strange, bruddah. |
| 05:08.22 | totlmstr | Ditto |
| 05:08.27 | Nash|327 | Except some Chinese food. |
| 05:08.39 | totlmstr | I'm Asian |
| 05:08.58 | Nash|327 | Do you like Asian culture? |
| 05:09.05 | totlmstr | Depends |
| 05:09.20 | totlmstr | Memes...not that much |
| 05:09.34 | totlmstr | Food....why not? |
| 05:09.59 | Nash|327 | Idon't like most Asian food either, but that doesn't mean much since I don't like most food in general. |
| 05:10.42 | Nash|327 | Just when it comes to movies, video games and such there is a huge difference, I guess it's a culture gap thing. |
| 05:10.58 | totlmstr | Exactly |
| 05:11.18 | totlmstr | Very large gap |
| 05:11.41 | Nash|327 | I enjoy Western RPGs, mainly BioWare. |
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| 05:12.06 | Vexal | i love koreans. |
| 05:12.08 | Vexal | they're the best asians. |
| 05:12.13 | Vexal | i hate fillipinos they're the ugliest. |
| 05:12.17 | totlmstr | Eh...Bioware is good....just too cheesy *looks at Mass Effect* |
| 05:12.24 | totlmstr | I'm Filipino |
| 05:12.29 | Vexal | i love fillipinos |
| 05:12.30 | Nash|327 | Mass Effect is awesome. |
| 05:12.42 | Vexal | mass effect is meant to be cheesy. its graphics are somewhat a satire of old science fiction. |
| 05:13.01 | totlmstr | ...*glares at Vexal* |
| 05:13.47 | JademusSreg | Roleplaying? =D |
| 05:13.53 | Nash|327 | I'm not saying the whole "HUGE ROBOTS FROM DARK SPACE WITH UNKNOWABLE MOTIVES" makes for a great plot, but it's a fun game. |
| 05:13.58 | totlmstr | Actully, it's supposed to be a reboot of High-Fantasy... |
| 05:14.08 | totlmstr | *High Sci-Fi |
| 05:14.50 | JademusSreg | * unsheathes his sword and rolls a 1, critically failing and, in the process, decapitates himself * D= |
| 05:16.23 | totlmstr | well, bad luck for you |
| 05:16.41 | Nash|327 | Dragon Age: Origins is great though. Even though it suffers from the whole "kings can be good, honestly" issue like most fantasy. |
| 05:18.26 | totlmstr | TV Tropes is your friend to that kind of stuff... |
| 05:18.47 | totlmstr | although Mass Effect did break it on multiple occassions |
| 05:18.59 | Nash|327 | As long as it's in a medieval setting, dictators are acceptable and even nice! |
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| 05:20.34 | Nash|327 | OFF WITH THEIR HEADS! |
| 05:20.44 | totlmstr | for some reason, I keep on looking at the user name that says "wacko" on it... |
| 05:21.01 | JademusSreg | Where's Yakko and Dot? |
| 05:22.20 | totlmstr | Apparently, they're on a channel that doesn't deal with mapping... |
| 05:22.29 | Nash|327 | Like this one? |
| 05:22.32 | totlmstr | DEFINITELY NOT THIS PLACE! |
| 05:22.55 | Nash|327 | PREPOSTEROUS! |
| 05:23.17 | totlmstr | After what we've already been through, I say OBJECTION!! |
| 05:23.56 | Nash|327 | D:< |
| 05:24.51 | Nash|327 | So, like, Japan is fucked. |
| 05:25.07 | totlmstr | LIKE WE DIDN'T KNOW ALREADY! |
| 05:25.19 | totlmstr | I mean, it's plastered everywhere |
| 05:25.23 | Nash|327 | They should just evacuate the whole country. |
| 05:25.36 | totlmstr | There are people who are doing that... |
| 05:25.53 | Nash|327 | ALL OF THEM? |
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| 05:26.09 | totlmstr | No, not all |
| 05:26.32 | totlmstr | to follow up on the objection, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0LgBUMlvwk |
| 05:28.27 | totlmstr | Link has Queen |
| 05:28.38 | totlmstr | Queen is good |
| 05:29.41 | Nash|327 | wtf |
| 05:29.55 | Nash|327 | That game looks moronic. |
| 05:30.02 | totlmstr | what do you mean? |
| 05:30.27 | Nash|327 | Some sort of Guitar Hero for lawyers? |
| 05:30.35 | totlmstr | It's based off of Osu Tatake Ouendan, a popular rhythm game |
| 05:30.59 | Nash|327 | And it's anime. Ew ew ew. |
| 05:31.16 | Nash|327 | Lawyer anime Guitar Hero, doesn't get much worse. |
| 05:31.21 | totlmstr | Uh....dancing cheerleaders....helping people....solve their problems |
| 05:31.35 | totlmstr | base of the general gameplay |
| 05:31.41 | totlmstr | in a nutshell |
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| 05:32.08 | grim001 | . |
| 05:32.17 | JademusSreg | Hi grim. |
| 05:32.18 | Nash|327 | Dancing cheerleaders should clearly be a core element of any game. |
| 05:32.54 | totlmstr | Dancing male cheerleaders, then dancing female cheerleaders saving the world |
| 05:33.21 | JademusSreg | Sounds worse than Heroes. =D |
| 05:33.33 | Nash|327 | This just further proves the point that Asian culture sucks D; |
| 05:33.40 | totlmstr | Not really. GH tanked. |
| 05:36.11 | totlmstr | .....anime is bad? |
| 05:36.35 | JademusSreg | Most of em. |
| 05:36.43 | JademusSreg | There are a few I enjoy though. |
| 05:37.00 | totlmstr | Like? |
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| 05:37.57 | JademusSreg | Magical Tennage Robot Ninja Demon Slayers? |
| 05:38.02 | JademusSreg | No wait, I hate that one. |
| 05:38.14 | Nash|327 | All anime is horrible D:< |
| 05:39.13 | totlmstr | What genre do you prefer, Nash? |
| 05:39.43 | Nash|327 | Of what? |
| 05:40.00 | totlmstr | Western shows |
| 05:40.10 | Nash|327 | Oh, TV shows? |
| 05:40.14 | totlmstr | yeah |
| 05:40.35 | Nash|327 | Well, I wouldn't say I prefer a genre per se. |
| 05:40.55 | Nash|327 | I watch a few shows here and there. |
| 05:41.01 | Nash|327 | Fringe, for example. |
| 05:41.04 | JademusSreg | I enjoy Ghost in the Shell, the first Full Metal Alchemist series, Cowboy Bebop. I don't seek out anime, so my exposure is limited. |
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| 05:41.30 | grim001 | hmm |
| 05:41.39 | JademusSreg | Welcome back grim. |
| 05:41.46 | Nash|327 | Only show I watch that isn't live action is Futurama. |
| 05:42.34 | totlmstr | GitS, FMA, and Bebop are good. Eh...mostly mainstream anime for you Jad |
| 05:43.04 | totlmstr | Futurama is a big IF for me |
| 05:43.20 | Nash|327 | Big Bang Theory is the only sitcom I can stand. |
| 05:43.32 | JademusSreg | Can't say I have much interest in being into trendy whatever animes. |
| 05:43.32 | Nash|327 | I utterly detest all other sitcoms :G |
| 05:44.08 | JademusSreg | Mainstream status is irrelevent. |
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| 05:45.28 | Nash|327 | Then again, Big Bang Theory would be crap without Sheldon. |
| 05:45.54 | grim001 | I got irritated with the lack of good themes for Chatzilla and decided to modify an existing one to create one based off the same colors used in my galaxy style. |
| 05:46.04 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
| 05:46.19 | grim001 | of course I have to close/reopen the client every time I want to see the changes. |
| 05:46.20 | JademusSreg | I just used a cracked mirc. |
| 05:46.28 | Nash|327 | HAX! |
| 05:47.01 | totlmstr | I think you mean hax0rs |
| 05:47.01 | Nash|327 | Now you don't get to see that dude's face every time you open mIRC. |
| 05:47.52 | Nash|327 | That Shalom boy guy. |
| 05:49.45 | Nash|327 | He wants your money! Because paying for an IRC client is so worth it D; |
| 05:50.27 | Vexal | hello. |
| 05:50.38 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 05:50.43 | Nash|327 | I can smell your brains. |
| 05:50.48 | totlmstr | Hello... |
| 05:50.50 | MrOp | hi |
| 05:50.58 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
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| 05:52.55 | grim001 | I think I'm done messing with it for now. |
| 05:53.04 | JademusSreg | Yay. |
| 05:53.23 | Vexal | grim001 you always randomly chime in with programming statements |
| 05:53.36 | Nash|327 | Themes, too much effort. |
| 05:54.12 | grim001 | because I always tab to this chat and say something when I am ready for a break from whatever I was doing |
| 05:54.34 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 05:54.39 | JademusSreg | To break the monotony. |
| 05:54.40 | Nash|327 | Your break consists of talking about what you were doing, then? |
| 05:54.51 | Nash|327 | I'm not sure that constitutes a break. |
| 05:54.53 | JademusSreg | I imagine that is why a number of programmers smoke. |
| 05:55.31 | Deaod | :) |
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| 05:55.47 | grim001 | I lied, I made another change. |
| 05:55.56 | Nash|327 | What if they get a keyboard with built in ashtray? |
| 05:55.58 | JademusSreg | Damn you! |
| 05:56.01 | Nash|327 | :G |
| 05:56.32 | JademusSreg | The smoke would not be good for the computer. D= |
| 05:56.47 | Nash|327 | I don't think it has lungs. |
| 05:57.38 | totlmstr | Yes it does! |
| 05:58.06 | Nash|327 | LIES |
| 05:58.10 | Deaod | they're called fans or heatsinks, but theyre just as necessary. |
| 05:58.34 | totlmstr | In other words, it has an air conditioner! |
| 05:59.40 | Nash|327 | Well if you're more concerned about damaging your computer than yourself by smoking you should get your priorities straight. |
| 06:00.25 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 06:00.50 | Deaod | why? if i break, health insurance covers |
| 06:01.02 | Deaod | if the computer breaks, im the one who has to pay |
| 06:01.15 | totlmstr | That doesn't make sense |
| 06:01.32 | totlmstr | Get your priorities straight |
| 06:01.34 | Nash|327 | You can buy a new computer. |
| 06:01.36 | Nash|327 | D; |
| 06:01.54 | Deaod | yes, and todays medicine can fix me up. |
| 06:02.01 | Nash|327 | Not really. |
| 06:02.02 | Deaod | not in all parts of the world |
| 06:02.03 | totlmstr | Not yet |
| 06:02.08 | totlmstr | you mean |
| 06:03.40 | Deaod | anyway, i dont smoke. |
| 06:03.49 | Deaod | so what do i care |
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| 06:05.40 | Nash-327 | onoes who killed mah internetz |
| 06:05.55 | Deaod | mkay guys, i think ill grab some sleep |
| 06:05.57 | Deaod | gnight |
| 06:06.11 | Nash-327 | sleep is evil |
| 06:06.36 | Nash-327 | Think of alll you could do if you didn't have to sleep. |
| 06:06.48 | Nash-327 | Dick around twice as much on IRC. |
| 06:07.06 | Nash-327 | Play more games! |
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| 06:08.26 | totlmstr | If you're looking for a good anime, Jad, one I'm watching now is Durarara; has subtitles, good storyline and characters. |
| 06:08.56 | JademusSreg | I'll need a sample to watch. |
| 06:09.04 | totlmstr | Episode 7, in particular, is something that is more of a wow: http://www.crunchyroll.com/durarara/episode-7-bad-ass-dude-539364 |
| 06:09.18 | Nash-327 | It also has a lot or Rs and As. |
| 06:10.38 | totlmstr | Yes, but that aforementioned anime has a suprisingly good art style. |
| 06:11.10 | totlmstr | And aforementioned anime episode is "Bad-Ass Dude" |
| 06:11.25 | totlmstr | IRC also in the anime |
| 06:12.02 | JademusSreg | Quick question will determine whether or not I will like it. |
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| 06:12.12 | totlmstr | Alright |
| 06:12.12 | JademusSreg | Does it have an ending? |
| 06:12.54 | totlmstr | The anime is partial to the manga available, as far as I know of. No, it does not have an ending. |
| 06:13.14 | JademusSreg | Ah. Then I won't like it. I do not enjoy the run on serials. |
| 06:13.31 | JademusSreg | Anyway, nice enough art style. No Ghost in the Shell, but nice. |
| 06:15.07 | JademusSreg | I prefer anime that tells a story, then ends, a complete narrative. |
| 06:15.26 | totlmstr | No open-endings? |
| 06:15.37 | totlmstr | How about Death Note? |
| 06:15.38 | JademusSreg | Depends on what you mean. |
| 06:15.54 | JademusSreg | I enjoyed Death Note. Kira dies, the end. |
| 06:16.07 | JademusSreg | Rather, Light dies, the end. |
| 06:16.08 | totlmstr | Yay for spoilers |
| 06:16.17 | JademusSreg | duncare. |
| 06:16.52 | Nash-327 | ENDINGS? BAH! |
| 06:16.54 | JademusSreg | I didn't care for the half-living caricatures that were some characters. |
| 06:17.04 | Nash-327 | 500 FILLER EPISODES! |
| 06:17.10 | JademusSreg | Some of them were pretty ridiculous. |
| 06:17.19 | JademusSreg | But overall, I enjoyed Death Note. |
| 06:17.25 | JademusSreg | Anyway, time for sleep. |
| 06:17.32 | totlmstr | Filler = D.Gray-Man |
| 06:17.49 | totlmstr | Starts off good....then downhill from there |
| 06:17.58 | totlmstr | Night |
| 06:18.09 | grim001 | wow people call anything that does anything "newgen for sc2" |
| 06:18.29 | grim001 | some guy made a patch that removes the syntax highlighter lag from the editor |
| 06:18.42 | grim001 | (rather pointless considering that one should not code in the editor... ever) |
| 06:18.53 | grim001 | first reply was: "So in essence, NewGen for StarCraft II modding scene, nice." |
| 06:19.06 | totlmstr | What do mean "NewGen"? |
| 06:19.34 | Skizot | LOL |
| 06:19.39 | Skizot | here. we. go. |
| 06:19.39 | Nash-327 | NOBODY KNOWS BUT IT SOUNDS COOL |
| 06:19.40 | grim001 | refers to a very useful package of tools for WC3 map development totlmstr |
| 06:20.58 | Nash-327 | No wonder there are so many sequels. |
| 06:21.17 | Nash-327 | If you don't make sequels people will just see ones that aren't there anyway. |
| 06:21.25 | totlmstr | and...has any package reached that level yet? |
| 06:22.17 | Nash-327 | So many games were called Diablo 3 before Diablo 3 was announced. |
| 06:22.33 | grim001 | totlmstr, nothing for SC2 is anywhere near the level of sophistication that NewGen reached. |
| 06:22.50 | grim001 | frankly I don't think there is anyone in the community at this time who has the amount of expertise or dedication to do it yet. |
| 06:23.00 | totlmstr | Might as well look it up |
| 06:23.01 | grim001 | the few that did don't seem to be willing to put in the time. |
| 06:25.11 | JademusSreg | Well, I'm not sleepy enough yet. |
| 06:29.29 | JademusSreg | Now I'm glad. |
| 06:29.34 | totlmstr | Ah...an expansion pack for mappers |
| 06:29.51 | JademusSreg | Anyway, we are in need of a new NewGen, so to speak. |
| 06:30.00 | totlmstr | Of course |
| 06:30.08 | JademusSreg | But I expect it will take years to come to fruition. |
| 06:30.16 | totlmstr | That is also true |
| 06:30.16 | grim001 | probably. |
| 06:30.53 | grim001 | I don't think that making the editor itself a suitable place to code is a needed part though. |
| 06:31.06 | JademusSreg | Maybe I'll even write something to contribute eventually. Haha |
| 06:31.14 | totlmstr | I guess Wiki-level "NewGen for Starcraft 2" would be needed. |
| 06:31.25 | grim001 | I don't know why so many people are reinventing the wheel with glorified text editors for editing Galaxy when they could simply using an existing program. |
| 06:31.33 | JademusSreg | I had hoped Mindy would finish Sparsile, but that's in the toilet. |
| 06:31.41 | totlmstr | An editior within an editor, so to speak |
| 06:31.45 | JademusSreg | His integrated editor was nearly functional. |
| 06:32.02 | JademusSreg | The window appeared and everything! |
| 06:32.09 | JademusSreg | But he didn't finish cosmos. |
| 06:32.22 | grim001 | It wasn't all that integrated, was it? You just selected a button and a text editor came up. You might as well bring up Notepad++ when you click that button. |
| 06:32.50 | grim001 | The important part is that you can be looking at whatever editor you use and instantly test the game and/or get syntax error reports. :P |
| 06:33.20 | JademusSreg | grim, it was integrated into the editor. |
| 06:34.03 | grim001 | oh, I guess it's neat to cool it that way, but it still seems silly to spend time on it. |
| 06:34.10 | JademusSreg | MindWorX is an exceptional programmer; his injected process worked like a dream. |
| 06:34.20 | grim001 | I used the editor in WC3 because I am a test-a-holic |
| 06:34.23 | JademusSreg | That last bit is a tad hyperbolic. =) |
| 06:35.05 | grim001 | and also because there was no program that supported using a bunch of external script files to create a map. |
| 06:35.21 | grim001 | but if I could test instantly from any other program and use a collection of script files that get combined I don't think I would feel the need to look at the editor at all. |
| 06:35.51 | grim001 | until it was time to do data or terrain. |
| 06:36.33 | grim001 | anyway, I see editor integration as the least important of the goals for a NewNewGen... |
| 06:37.12 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 06:37.26 | totlmstr | So...you want to split the current editor in SC2 into two parts? One part mapping; another part scripting...? |
| 06:37.27 | JademusSreg | It's really more like a final touch. |
| 06:38.04 | grim001 | totlmstr, the editor is already split into multiple modules. |
| 06:38.29 | grim001 | I'm just saying that the trigger/scripting module that comes with it is nearly useless unless you are using GUI. |
| 06:39.04 | grim001 | it seems most wise to ignore its existence completely if possible. |
| 06:40.02 | totlmstr | How about something along the lines of...say, Half-Life 2's? Like how you can edit the game while it's running. Check/place nodes, etc... |
| 06:40.34 | totlmstr | That would seem helpful. |
| 06:40.46 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 06:41.02 | grim001 | Changes made to the map reflected instantly ingame? That would be funny but it is impossible due to the way SC2 maps work. |
| 06:41.04 | JademusSreg | That would be a monumental undertaking. |
| 06:42.09 | JademusSreg | Changing the memory, that would be ridiculously complex, a feat that would eclipse all hacks. |
| 06:42.25 | totlmstr | Not the core config, as in scripting, but, let's say, points and regions. |
| 06:42.46 | JademusSreg | Same thing, just a narrower scope, so to speak. |
| 06:42.57 | grim001 | You can easily set up some commands ingame that allow you to manipulate the location of points/regions etc |
| 06:43.05 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 06:43.24 | grim001 | type: move region03245 to 235.23, 124.546 |
| 06:43.34 | grim001 | just have to parse it an execute the command. |
| 06:43.45 | JademusSreg | Motive's Cortex roleplay maps demonstrate such things. |
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| 06:48.57 | Xapti | how do I find the location of a map file or specifically bank file? |
| 06:49.06 | Xapti | for specific map |
| 06:49.18 | JademusSreg | It's in your documents directory. |
| 06:49.23 | Xapti | i know that |
| 06:49.42 | JademusSreg | Then what is the confusion? |
| 06:49.53 | Xapti | there are hundreds of folders/files |
| 06:49.58 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 06:50.18 | Xapti | so how do I find the location of the file for the specific map? |
| 06:50.21 | JademusSreg | You will need to look in them. |
| 06:50.24 | Xapti | you didn't answer my question |
| 06:50.36 | JademusSreg | You want O(1). |
| 06:50.46 | JademusSreg | But you're going to get O(n). |
| 06:51.03 | JademusSreg | Because the only sure way is to look at each one. |
| 06:51.44 | Vexal | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/general/general-chat/20059-smashcraft-icjug/#p14 look how buff i am. |
| 06:52.40 | Xapti | jademussreg you're not helping at all and you probably nkow it so quit being an ass |
| 06:52.48 | totlmstr | You're the same person from earlier |
| 06:53.04 | JademusSreg | I am helping; I'm saying that the only way is to check each one. |
| 06:53.16 | Vexal | xapti what map? jademussreg is correct. |
| 06:53.23 | Xapti | no he's only partially correct |
| 06:53.31 | Vexal | they are not labled specifically to prevent you from messing with banks. |
| 06:53.34 | JademusSreg | Of course I'm only partially correct. |
| 06:53.34 | Xapti | it's not like there's a map file insde every folder |
| 06:53.44 | Xapti | you don't need to look at every folder |
| 06:53.49 | Vexal | if you know how to do it |
| 06:53.51 | Vexal | why are you asking? |
| 06:53.54 | Vexal | and did you look at how buff i am? |
| 06:53.58 | Xapti | I do not know how to do it |
| 06:54.06 | Vexal | why do you need to find a bank? |
| 06:54.12 | Vexal | are you trying to mess with one you're not supposed to? |
| 06:54.20 | JademusSreg | Yes, Vexal. Very handsome, lean, muscular build. |
| 06:54.23 | Vexal | and do you know the name of the bank? |
| 06:54.38 | Xapti | I want to transver my data from my old operating system to my new one |
| 06:54.50 | Xapti | and I do not want to transfer everything |
| 06:54.55 | Vexal | okay then copy the whole folder that has banks. |
| 06:54.55 | totlmstr | Try first checking your Documents folder under your username (C:/Users/(username)/Documents/Starcraft II) |
| 06:55.01 | Vexal | just copy the bank folder. |
| 06:55.17 | Xapti | i want only some maps bank changed |
| 06:55.18 | Xapti | not all |
| 06:55.23 | Vexal | why? |
| 06:55.29 | Vexal | which map? |
| 06:55.29 | Xapti | because I have banks on the new os |
| 06:55.37 | Xapti | that i want to keep |
| 06:55.56 | JademusSreg | Unless you know the name of the bank, you will need to check each one. |
| 06:55.59 | totlmstr | cross-reference between each computer; do it manually |
| 06:56.13 | totlmstr | That is all. |
| 06:56.21 | Vexal | create a GUI in visual basic to track the IP of the bank. use a bi-lateral phase array trace route. |
| 06:56.30 | Vexal | don't forget to press the "any key". |
| 06:56.31 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka |
| 06:57.03 | Xapti | what is tyhe bank folder |
| 06:57.20 | Vexal | just look for it |
| 06:57.24 | Vexal | gosh |
| 06:57.33 | JademusSreg | It corresponds to the map id, yes? If youk now the map id, it's easy. O(1) =D |
| 06:57.33 | Vexal | i never memorize where it is |
| 06:57.45 | Vexal | i just check them all when i need to find a bank |
| 06:58.14 | Xapti | you said "just copy the the whole folder that has banks" |
| 06:58.22 | Xapti | how do you find it |
| 06:58.34 | Vexal | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:58.44 | Vexal | i can't answer your question without going into the folder myself and checking |
| 06:58.44 | JademusSreg | It is in your documents directory, as tot pointed out. |
| 06:58.50 | Vexal | and if i can do that, then so you can you |
| 06:59.00 | Vexal | i don't think anyone can answer your question without looking it up |
| 06:59.07 | Xapti | it's not a folder that contains bank info |
| 06:59.10 | Vexal | and i swear it's just as easy for you to do it yourself as it is for us to do it for you |
| 06:59.12 | Xapti | it's a folder that contains ALL inf |
| 06:59.14 | Xapti | o |
| 06:59.19 | Vexal | there is a different folder for each map |
| 06:59.24 | Vexal | it's in your battle net account |
| 06:59.24 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 06:59.26 | Xapti | yes and wht is your point |
| 06:59.35 | Vexal | what do you mean, what is my point? |
| 06:59.42 | Xapti | you seemed to imply there was a folder that contains only bank info |
| 06:59.47 | Vexal | no i didn't |
| 06:59.50 | JademusSreg | C:\Users\\Documents\StarCraft II\Accounts\1965954\1-S2-1-1213024\Banks |
| 06:59.51 | Vexal | there is a folder that contains folders |
| 06:59.55 | Vexal | and each folder has a bank for each map |
| 07:00.01 | Xapti | the cache folder contains all map data not just banks |
| 07:00.11 | Vexal | it's not the cache folder |
| 07:00.12 | Vexal | it's the folder for your account |
| 07:00.12 | totlmstr | Best idea is to look and cross-reference between the game and your computers. If a file is older than you want it to be, then you most like don't need it. |
| 07:00.17 | Vexal | jademussreg your account is a number? |
| 07:00.25 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 07:00.26 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 07:00.34 | Vexal | how did you choose that particular one? |
| 07:00.41 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 07:00.57 | totlmstr | Everyone's account is a random number. |
| 07:01.45 | totlmstr | Most likely assigned from register and/or sign-up to Blizzard automaticall |
| 07:01.55 | totlmstr | *automatically. |
| 07:02.11 | JademusSreg | Xapti, I hope that is sufficient. |
| 07:03.22 | JademusSreg | Also, now you know my true account id. Don't say it backwards or I will be vanquished and will be forced to surrender possession of your first born. |
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| 07:04.00 | totlmstr | YAY. Thank you for giving personal info! |
| 07:04.52 | totlmstr | Also, esrever? |
| 07:05.06 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
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| 07:07.37 | totlmstr | Hello, IcE^ |
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| 07:08.27 | totlmstr | Now it must be getting more active in here. |
| 07:08.33 | Helral|Work | meow?\ |
| 07:08.50 | JademusSreg | Hi cat. |
| 07:09.02 | Helral|Work | meow meeow. |
| 07:09.11 | JademusSreg | How's the layout tool coming? |
| 07:09.18 | Helral|Work | slowly ;p |
| 07:09.53 | JademusSreg | As in well, or as in shitty? |
| 07:10.09 | Helral|Work | as in I need to figure out how to display dds on websites ;p |
| 07:10.38 | JademusSreg | And I then wondered if flash can handle dds. |
| 07:10.46 | Helral|Work | but I ain't gonna use flash ;p |
| 07:11.13 | JademusSreg | How about tga? |
| 07:11.17 | JademusSreg | =) |
| 07:11.41 | Helral|Work | what about tga? the original files are in dds format.... |
| 07:12.02 | JademusSreg | I'm aware. |
| 07:12.31 | totlmstr | I'm leaving. Night. |
| 07:12.42 | JademusSreg | But I just don't see your specs working for displaying dds. D= |
| 07:13.13 | Helral|Work | currently actually looking into gimp and autogenerating jpegs from dds files. |
| 07:13.24 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 07:13.36 | Helral|Work | or perhaps png's are better |
| 07:13.48 | JademusSreg | I vote png. |
| 07:13.55 | JademusSreg | Or I would if this were a democratic process. |
| 07:14.06 | Helral|Work | sure you can vote for it. |
| 07:14.26 | Helral|Work | whether I listen to what you vote for or not is my choice :) |
| 07:15.19 | JademusSreg | I guess it's a question of how important the precision of the conversion is in this case, and the overhead on the conversion. |
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| 07:15.52 | JademusSreg | Personally, I doubt I would be concerned about the precision of the conversion. |
| 07:15.57 | Helral|Work | currently installing 52 rpm's on my linux server, just for gimp..... |
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| 07:16.28 | JademusSreg | Making it fast would be a higher priority for me as a user. |
| 07:16.49 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I'm definitely going to sleep this time. =D |
| 07:16.53 | Helral|Work | the converting will be done in a background service. |
| 07:16.53 | JademusSreg | Later. |
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| 07:17.54 | JademusSreg | (I figured. =D ) |
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| 07:45.59 | Maul | ~purl what is possible at zombo.com? |
| 07:46.01 | purl | Maul: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 07:56.54 | Vexal | .. |
| 07:57.39 | Helral|Work | meow? |
| 08:00.17 | Clord | ... |
| 08:00.25 | Clord | lol |
| 08:00.30 | Clord | power of the loading screen |
| 08:00.30 | Helral|Work | meow? |
| 08:00.32 | Clord | it is powerful |
| 08:00.33 | Vexal | hello. |
| 08:00.39 | Clord | and power grows when your map is more popular |
| 08:01.00 | Clord | via loading screen I have been able to resurrect my other maps what was never really alive after scII beta |
| 08:02.34 | Clord | granted.. new search and bookmark features helps in that too... as they will way easier to find them after I tell them about those maps |
| 08:02.58 | Clord | as before 1.3.0 search feature didn't really even work rgith and most didn't even knew it exist |
| 08:03.21 | Clord | I gotta facepalm when there is tons of people who create public game and means that it is supposed to be private match |
| 08:03.25 | Clord | lol |
| 08:04.24 | Clord | public match whatever XD |
| 08:04.55 | Clord | it is also good that blizzard disagrees with host must launch even full lobby thing |
| 08:05.13 | Clord | back in beta that was so damn lovely lol |
| 08:05.26 | Clord | guys goes afk for next 12 hours and leaves lobby open |
| 08:05.28 | Clord | fun times |
| 08:05.33 | Clord | guy... |
| 08:23.05 | Clord | so system is still highly flawed.... fun or not system cares to host only maps what see random activity... |
| 08:23.12 | Clord | what defeats it's original purpose XD |
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| 08:33.08 | Clord | hmmmmm |
| 08:33.23 | Clord | watching livestream about libya |
| 08:33.34 | Clord | one of that team's guy got shot by sniper... |
| 08:33.47 | Clord | I guess freedom of speech not exist in battlefield |
| 08:34.04 | Clord | http://www.livestream.com/libya17feb |
| 08:34.53 | Clord | it is like monkeys fighting over resources they need |
| 08:35.10 | Agouti | need? |
| 08:35.12 | Agouti | want. |
| 08:35.18 | Agouti | and it's for power |
| 08:35.22 | Agouti | more than anything |
| 08:36.37 | Clord | hehe yeah |
| 08:36.51 | Clord | this time "rebels" are the good guys |
| 08:36.55 | Clord | and their "noble" cause |
| 08:37.05 | Clord | is "supported" |
| 08:37.26 | Clord | aka... let's see what resources they have |
| 08:37.31 | Clord | and what benefit more to support |
| 08:37.33 | Clord | if rebels win |
| 08:37.38 | Clord | it is wide open for exploiting |
| 08:37.54 | Clord | whatever resources there has what is not so common |
| 08:38.01 | Agouti | any money in 10 years time they will be back where they started |
| 08:38.09 | Agouti | exvept the now-rebels will be the then-despots |
| 08:38.31 | Clord | hehe and USA must act hero.... as guy who gets last hit |
| 08:38.33 | Clord | ^^ |
| 08:38.57 | Agouti | wasn't it a US-backed president to start with? |
| 08:38.58 | Clord | honestly that livestream channel |
| 08:39.02 | Clord | it is more like propaganda channel |
| 08:39.03 | Clord | from rebels |
| 08:39.29 | Clord | actually somewhat |
| 08:39.32 | Clord | expect USA is not really there |
| 08:39.34 | Clord | lol |
| 08:39.44 | Clord | their president was probably that dude who supported |
| 08:39.48 | Clord | but their congress didn't like |
| 08:40.58 | Agouti | or had gone rogue |
| 08:40.59 | Agouti | as they do |
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| 08:42.10 | Stewox | ~seen bounty |
| 08:42.13 | purl | bounty <442d304d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.48.77> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 9h 1m 54s ago, saying: 'thought so'. |
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| 08:53.24 | Mexa | mornin' |
| 08:53.38 | Clord | >_> |
| 08:53.44 | Clord | morning |
| 08:57.55 | Clord | awkward data silence |
| 08:57.56 | Clord | lol |
| 08:58.06 | Clord | yeah making new terms here |
| 08:59.53 | Clord | I wonder what people has been smoking.. Crysis 2 claims again take the trophy of being most demanding PC game for hardware |
| 08:59.57 | Clord | if everything is maxed |
| 09:00.05 | Clord | yet people tell how it looks worse |
| 09:00.06 | Clord | XD |
| 09:04.02 | Mexa | mm, I need to continue watching a movie. Later! |
| 09:17.12 | Helral|Work | meow? |
| 09:18.16 | Stewox | woof |
| 09:18.22 | Helral|Work | meow! |
| 09:22.59 | Clord | meh meh |
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| 09:28.30 | Helral|Work | anyonoe know if there is a batch error log file for gimp? |
| 09:30.40 | Kalekin | Need some help from someone with some experience with Actors. My example is as such, I want to attach a ultralisk actor to a marine actor at an arbitrary point in the game, at a later stage I want to attach a new ultralisk actor to a new marine actor and destroy the previous ultralisk, how can I reference the previous ultralisk through actor events? |
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| 09:38.24 | Clord | shouldn't you be able to make something like actor variable? |
| 09:38.42 | Clord | and refer last created actor for it |
| 09:39.48 | Kalekin | I need to reference it through actor events, IE, inside the data editor |
| 09:39.53 | Kalekin | no trigger use for this one |
| 09:39.56 | Helral|Work | yay my dds to webhandled img converter is working ;p |
| 09:40.50 | Helral|Work | can't you relocate the old ultralisk actor? |
| 09:41.34 | Clord | while data editor is awesome tool |
| 09:41.35 | Kalekin | I would be happy with that I think |
| 09:41.37 | Clord | in the editor |
| 09:41.38 | Kalekin | I don't know how :p |
| 09:41.42 | Clord | sometimes you just gotta bend over |
| 09:41.42 | Clord | XD |
| 09:41.51 | Clord | and surrender for trigger method |
| 09:41.53 | Clord | lol |
| 09:42.01 | Kalekin | I can't compromise on this one >_< |
| 09:42.07 | Kalekin | triggers can't do what I want to |
| 09:42.39 | Helral|Work | why can't they? ;p |
| 09:42.54 | Kalekin | I need to handle this asynchronously |
| 09:42.59 | Helral|Work | ahh |
| 09:43.14 | Clord | you word monster |
| 09:43.23 | Helral|Work | meow? |
| 09:44.05 | Clord | lol |
| 09:44.06 | Kalekin | So no clues on how to reference the previously created actor? :p |
| 09:44.13 | Clord | "asynchronously" |
| 09:44.19 | Kalekin | No way to store it in some sort of actor variable or something... |
| 09:44.24 | Clord | I did need look up translation for that one |
| 09:44.25 | Clord | XD |
| 09:44.31 | Kalekin | Clord, what I mean is... |
| 09:44.38 | Helral|Work | Clord: lol |
| 09:44.43 | Kalekin | I need to handle it on the client side |
| 09:44.52 | Clord | voila |
| 09:44.53 | Kalekin | IE, without latency |
| 09:45.09 | Clord | now I get what that word means in that context lol |
| 09:45.18 | Helral|Work | :) |
| 09:45.25 | Kalekin | trigger all runs on server side, so not an option for me :() |
| 09:45.26 | Kalekin | :( |
| 09:45.33 | Kalekin | Well, a last resort option |
| 09:45.40 | Clord | basically you do it data way to remove extra latency what triggers cause... like those damn laggy dialogs |
| 09:45.55 | Kalekin | no, remove latency all together |
| 09:46.03 | Kalekin | Okay I will hint a bit more on what I am trying to do |
| 09:46.09 | Kalekin | think of the selection circles for units |
| 09:46.17 | Kalekin | when you click a unit in game, it instantly selects it |
| 09:46.20 | Kalekin | no communication with the server |
| 09:46.25 | Kalekin | those selection circles are just actors |
| 09:46.48 | Kalekin | I have it at the moment that when I click a unit, it creates the selection circle instantly on the client, even with high latency |
| 09:46.59 | Clord | I see |
| 09:47.01 | Kalekin | but now I need to make it so when I click the next unit, it "deselects" my old one |
| 09:47.05 | Clord | you are doing something like grid based board game lol |
| 09:47.10 | Clord | so you want make clicking easier |
| 09:47.13 | Kalekin | mmmm |
| 09:47.14 | Kalekin | no :p |
| 09:47.23 | Clord | oh |
| 09:47.25 | Clord | didn't read last bit |
| 09:47.26 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:47.26 | Kalekin | I am just trying to fake unit selection |
| 09:47.32 | Clord | yeah yeah :) |
| 09:48.00 | Clord | but as far I know.. game deselects for you when you click another unit |
| 09:48.05 | Clord | unless someone abuses it |
| 09:48.17 | Kalekin | I have unit selection locked on your "hero" unit |
| 09:48.35 | Kalekin | so that you always use his command card |
| 09:48.38 | Kalekin | and issue orders to him |
| 09:49.01 | Kalekin | so I have disbled unit selection |
| 09:49.14 | Clord | many maps use unselectable flag for various units etc to make player not to be able to click anything else like that |
| 09:49.26 | Kalekin | doesn't work |
| 09:49.32 | Kalekin | because I can't have an enemy hero as unselectable |
| 09:49.42 | Kalekin | if that hero has to be controlled by another player |
| 09:49.46 | Kalekin | the player must be able to select it |
| 09:50.02 | Clord | you could make attacks just go to facing direction |
| 09:50.12 | Clord | like in smashcraft etc |
| 09:50.19 | Kalekin | I could, but that's rubbish :p |
| 09:50.23 | Kalekin | and not my aim |
| 09:50.49 | Kalekin | I already have a fake unit selection working |
| 09:51.05 | Kalekin | I just need the feedback to be client side |
| 09:51.07 | Kalekin | if I can get it that way |
| 09:51.28 | Kalekin | If it does not work I will resort to the feedback being dealt with by triggers, but I wan't to avoid the latency if I can |
| 09:51.40 | Helral|Work | Clord: in my map I want the same as Kalekin at a moment. I have items, enemies, chests, which should be selectable, but I do not want them to lose control of their hero when they select them. (command-card wise) |
| 09:52.23 | Clord | hehe I got idea... assuming there is not full GUI shown |
| 09:52.24 | Clord | ^^ |
| 09:52.30 | Clord | priorities etc lol |
| 09:52.32 | Clord | you know |
| 09:52.35 | Clord | you click another unit |
| 09:52.40 | Clord | it becomes second unit in group |
| 09:52.50 | Clord | bah that can't work |
| 09:52.51 | Clord | XD |
| 09:52.54 | Kalekin | nope :p |
| 09:52.58 | Kalekin | I have it working |
| 09:52.59 | Kalekin | 95% |
| 09:53.05 | Kalekin | I just need a method of referencing the previous actor |
| 09:53.09 | Kalekin | and destroying it |
| 09:53.19 | Kalekin | and I will have it 100% as I want it to be >_> |
| 09:53.45 | Helral|Work | why not destroy all actors of that type (asynchro) before you create the new one? |
| 09:53.56 | Kalekin | how do I do that? :P |
| 09:54.07 | Kalekin | I am up for trying anything atm |
| 09:54.16 | Helral|Work | 2 actor events I guess. 1 for destroy and 1 for create. |
| 09:54.38 | Kalekin | Ye, but how do I reference the entire collection of that actor type? |
| 09:54.43 | Clord | if I got this right... you want your guy to mount top of ultralisk? XD |
| 09:54.46 | Clord | what an ride |
| 09:54.48 | Clord | lol |
| 09:54.53 | Helral|Work | you just let the actor event handle that itself. ;p |
| 09:55.02 | Kalekin | Herlral? lol |
| 09:55.05 | Kalekin | stop speaking in riddles! |
| 09:55.14 | Clord | E. Nigma |
| 09:55.15 | Clord | XD |
| 09:55.16 | Clord | lol |
| 09:55.17 | Helral|Work | Clord, better then having the Ultralisk riding the poor guy. |
| 09:55.45 | Clord | would require quite low gravity |
| 09:55.46 | Clord | lol |
| 09:55.51 | Clord | otherwise it is smash time |
| 09:56.26 | Helral|Work | Kalekin: I don't know how asynch stuff exactly works (never looked into it), but at normal actor events you can say stuff like: Event: Clicked.* Action: Destroy. |
| 09:56.36 | Helral|Work | and then a more specific action which creates the actor. |
| 09:56.40 | Kalekin | For the selection circle to appear |
| 09:56.44 | Kalekin | the actor event is running off my unit |
| 09:56.54 | Kalekin | so I have it like this |
| 09:57.04 | Kalekin | Click SCV -> Create Circle |
| 09:57.08 | Kalekin | this does not work: |
| 09:57.28 | Kalekin | Click SCV -> Destroy Circle (no circle exsists on this actor?) -> Create Circle |
| 09:57.38 | Clord | in my craftville map where you breed zerglings over time..... I solved morphing problem lefting behind zergling with egg attached to it.. to remove that zergling XD so only hydralisk remains :) |
| 09:57.39 | Kalekin | I need to subsitute the center one with some sort of reference to the previous cricle |
| 09:57.43 | Clord | my dodgy solutions ftw |
| 09:57.46 | Helral|Work | try Click * -> Destroy Circle |
| 09:57.54 | Helral|Work | and Click Scv -> Create Circle |
| 09:58.20 | Kalekin | Also I'm not sure how to destroy the circle :D |
| 09:58.22 | Kalekin | RefDestroy? O.o |
| 09:58.30 | Helral|Work | Action: Destroy |
| 09:58.32 | Clord | I don't get it why now TD maps try to remove turning |
| 09:58.35 | Helral|Work | Event Action* |
| 09:58.46 | Kalekin | Ye but it doesn't have a parameter |
| 09:58.51 | Kalekin | to indicate which actor to destroy |
| 09:59.01 | Helral|Work | doesn't need one. |
| 09:59.21 | Helral|Work | the actor that triggers on the event gets destroyed. |
| 09:59.37 | Kalekin | not doing anything |
| 09:59.51 | Kalekin | the actor that would trigger the event would be the SCV being clicked though? |
| 10:00.03 | Helral|Work | ..... damnit yes :S |
| 10:00.09 | Helral|Work | my bad didn't think about that O.o |
| 10:00.12 | Kalekin | :P |
| 10:00.30 | Kalekin | doesn't do anything anyway |
| 10:00.34 | Helral|Work | thought my idea was nice... the execution wasn't :) |
| 10:00.39 | Kalekin | wouldn't have expected that :/ |
| 10:00.45 | Clord | TD maps are done mostly just plain bad..... WCIII there was trick to make towers to turn... but almost nobody used it |
| 10:00.48 | Kalekin | I am sure I need to use RefDestroy |
| 10:00.50 | Clord | in SCII |
| 10:00.53 | Kalekin | and somehow reference the selection circle |
| 10:01.03 | Clord | TD towers can easily turn.. people remove turning |
| 10:01.08 | Clord | facepalm XD |
| 10:01.09 | Demonette | the selection circle? |
| 10:01.14 | Demonette | oO |
| 10:01.14 | Helral|Work | meow |
| 10:01.31 | Kalekin | Demonette, jumping in a bit deep into the issue at hand :p |
| 10:01.37 | Helral|Work | Demonette: btw I got gimp working for dds conversion :) |
| 10:01.47 | Demonette | thats nice helral |
| 10:02.06 | Helral|Work | that plugin you mentioned was usable, I just needed to compile it myself for linux. |
| 10:02.08 | Clord | btw... I found out that TGA and DDS is almost same thing... quite long ago |
| 10:02.16 | Demonette | mmmhh yeah why not =D sometime it's helpful to not nothing about previous try to solve the problem =) |
| 10:02.16 | Clord | DDS is just damn rare format compared to TGA |
| 10:02.17 | Clord | XD |
| 10:02.33 | Kalekin | haha |
| 10:02.39 | Kalekin | well, the quick low down then.... |
| 10:02.52 | Kalekin | I have disabled unit selection on my map |
| 10:02.55 | Demonette | i like dds |
| 10:02.56 | Kalekin | so I am trying to fake unit selection |
| 10:02.59 | Kalekin | At the moment |
| 10:03.08 | Clord | get Magicka game |
| 10:03.14 | Clord | lol |
| 10:03.17 | Demonette | Hmmm you could try makros |
| 10:03.22 | Kalekin | I have it that when I click an SCV, I have an actor event that creates a Ground Selection Circle |
| 10:03.30 | Kalekin | like the one you see in normal selection |
| 10:03.34 | Kalekin | when I click the next SCV |
| 10:03.37 | Kalekin | I want to destroy the old Circle |
| 10:03.40 | Clord | Magicka shows that no need selecting stuff is fun ^^ |
| 10:03.44 | Clord | from the field |
| 10:03.47 | Clord | just point |
| 10:04.00 | Kalekin | Trying to figure out how to reference the old circle actor from the newly clicked SCV's actor events |
| 10:04.22 | Demonette | I think you can't or you allmost can't |
| 10:04.33 | Kalekin | Well that's not an answere I want :( |
| 10:04.40 | Demonette | true =) |
| 10:04.54 | Clord | stubborn like brickwall ;) |
| 10:04.59 | Kalekin | Can you think of any points in the game |
| 10:05.01 | Kalekin | story/units |
| 10:05.09 | Kalekin | where doing some on one unit effects the actors of another? |
| 10:05.13 | Demonette | why can't you destroy the circle on deselection? |
| 10:05.13 | Kalekin | *something |
| 10:05.23 | Clord | he wants to avoid triggers |
| 10:05.26 | Clord | because latency |
| 10:05.28 | Kalekin | I have disabled unit selection Deaod |
| 10:05.32 | Kalekin | Demonette |
| 10:05.32 | Demonette | i think what kind of acteur is your acteur |
| 10:05.45 | Kalekin | In order to keep my "Hero" selected 100% of the time |
| 10:06.04 | Kalekin | So the Selection events do not work for me |
| 10:06.12 | Kalekin | I am working off UnitClicked |
| 10:06.16 | Demonette | Mmmhhh |
| 10:06.23 | Helral|Work | currently upload 353 dds files to my server ;p |
| 10:06.30 | Kalekin | I can create the circle just fine |
| 10:06.36 | Kalekin | But I don't know how to destroy the last one |
| 10:06.53 | Clord | Dwarf and Human Male is chasing the elf chick what can't decide who she likes and broke up with two.... now they throw beers to eachother faces with various affects |
| 10:06.55 | Clord | XD |
| 10:06.58 | Clord | effects... |
| 10:07.07 | Clord | yeah |
| 10:07.09 | Clord | but honestly |
| 10:07.10 | Demonette | Why does you selection changes anyway if you select your hero 100% of the time? |
| 10:07.18 | Clord | can't come up with story when not know even damn map |
| 10:07.18 | Demonette | sry i don't really get your system at the moment |
| 10:07.24 | Kalekin | No problem |
| 10:07.26 | Kalekin | think of it like WoW |
| 10:07.31 | Kalekin | you have your "hero" selected all the time |
| 10:07.38 | Kalekin | but you can target others |
| 10:07.43 | Kalekin | To a degree, I am trying to emulate that |
| 10:07.51 | Demonette | Uhmmm don't think your hero is selected all the time |
| 10:07.59 | Clord | he does not want to do it like in smashcraft where you just point your abilities |
| 10:08.01 | Kalekin | No obviously WoW has it's own method |
| 10:08.03 | Demonette | you only see your own stats the whole time |
| 10:08.04 | Helral|Work | Demonette: in my map I want the same as Kalekin at a moment. I have items, enemies, chests, which should be selectable, but I do not want them to lose control of their hero when they select them. (command-card wise) <-- that idea |
| 10:08.18 | Kalekin | exactly as Helral|Work said |
| 10:08.29 | Kalekin | I am sure WoW doesn't select your guy all the time |
| 10:08.35 | Kalekin | but this obviously works differently |
| 10:08.37 | Kalekin | so gotta try fake it |
| 10:08.38 | Kalekin | :P |
| 10:08.42 | Clord | hehe |
| 10:08.46 | Demonette | ah i see |
| 10:08.47 | Clord | you could make |
| 10:08.50 | Clord | dialog with latency |
| 10:08.50 | Demonette | mmhhh |
| 10:08.50 | Clord | XD |
| 10:08.58 | Clord | lol |
| 10:09.01 | Kalekin | which brings us back to the start |
| 10:09.05 | Clord | yeah |
| 10:09.14 | Kalekin | how do I reference the selection circle on the old actor? :p |
| 10:09.27 | Clord | but... you either take latency or probably not get your idea finished to be fun to play for players |
| 10:09.50 | Clord | then again |
| 10:09.53 | Kalekin | I'm not going to spend months figuring this out |
| 10:09.56 | Demonette | let me first check out if my editor gots repaired... |
| 10:09.58 | Kalekin | but I'm not going to give up after a few hours either |
| 10:10.00 | Clord | is it that big deal that you sometimes lose command card? |
| 10:10.05 | Kalekin | Clord, yes |
| 10:10.07 | Kalekin | very big deal |
| 10:10.16 | Clord | why? |
| 10:10.35 | Demonette | =( |
| 10:10.44 | Demonette | okay it's still broken |
| 10:11.00 | Kalekin | Clord, I dunno how to asnwere that. |
| 10:11.02 | Demonette | sigh |
| 10:11.11 | Kalekin | *answer |
| 10:11.18 | Clord | there is RPG game caleld facility 17 in SCII |
| 10:11.19 | Helral|Work | Demonette: wats wrong with your editor? just crashes on startup or ?? |
| 10:11.21 | Clord | custom map more like it |
| 10:11.26 | Clord | it is kinda like FFVII combat system |
| 10:11.32 | Clord | it is made up from dialogs |
| 10:11.35 | ProzaicMuze | Demonette is what's wrong with it |
| 10:11.36 | Clord | and I hardly notice latency |
| 10:11.39 | Kalekin | I had the crash on startup problem |
| 10:11.45 | Demonette | no one has an idea why my editor crashes when i open the terrain while editing a map |
| 10:11.47 | Helral|Work | ProzaicMuze: you sound like a parrot. |
| 10:11.49 | Kalekin | Dialogs are different Clord |
| 10:11.56 | Kalekin | Demonette, I got your fix for yoyu |
| 10:12.02 | Kalekin | As repayment you have to devote your life to solving my problem |
| 10:12.03 | Helral|Work | Demonette: did you check the actors? |
| 10:12.05 | ProzaicMuze | Helral IS a parrot |
| 10:12.10 | Kalekin | open up your My Documents folder |
| 10:12.15 | Kalekin | go to your Starcraft II folder inside |
| 10:12.24 | Kalekin | delete the EditorVariables.txt file |
| 10:12.25 | Demonette | it also crashes when i open a new map |
| 10:12.30 | Demonette | without any new acteurs |
| 10:12.31 | Kalekin | that will fix your problem |
| 10:12.34 | Helral|Work | then do what Kalekin said ;p |
| 10:12.45 | Kalekin | but now your life is mine |
| 10:12.47 | Helral|Work | or rename that file. |
| 10:12.49 | Kalekin | till I solve this :d |
| 10:12.52 | Mexa | lols¨ |
| 10:13.05 | Mexa | oh noes, the chat didn't scroll |
| 10:13.07 | Clord | or "directory" as we who began to use computers during DOS days call them |
| 10:13.08 | Clord | lol |
| 10:13.09 | Mexa | Mind my lol. |
| 10:13.10 | Helral|Work | Kalekin: you do know that Demonette has no life. so you just gave the solution for nothing :) |
| 10:13.15 | Kalekin | lol |
| 10:13.32 | Helral|Work | Demons don't have lives, common knowledge :P |
| 10:13.51 | Clord | yeah since demons are immortal |
| 10:13.52 | Clord | lol |
| 10:13.59 | Clord | meh >_> |
| 10:14.10 | Kalekin | Demonette, working? |
| 10:14.11 | Demonette | =D like cats ^^ |
| 10:14.33 | Clord | they finish mario game with no need to use lives |
| 10:14.34 | Demonette | wait wait i'm not done with creating or loading a map... |
| 10:14.39 | Kalekin | :) |
| 10:14.42 | Clord | lol |
| 10:14.46 | Kalekin | I also had the crash issue when loading up the terrain module |
| 10:14.50 | Kalekin | that fixed it for me |
| 10:15.01 | Clord | I got this mystery bug what eventually fixed itself |
| 10:15.01 | Helral|Work | when I play mario I have 9 lives at least :) |
| 10:15.08 | Clord | XD |
| 10:15.11 | Clord | it was about preview image |
| 10:15.19 | Demonette | =D |
| 10:15.24 | Clord | basically it didn't auto generate terrain for preview image |
| 10:15.28 | Clord | in THE Card Game |
| 10:15.33 | Clord | so I replaced it with custom picture |
| 10:15.44 | Demonette | wow it works.. nicy nice |
| 10:15.56 | Clord | it is very rare bug |
| 10:15.57 | Helral|Work | ow it does generate terrain for preview image for my map. it's just that my terrain is blank :) |
| 10:15.57 | Clord | and annoying one |
| 10:16.10 | Clord | it means that users see black terrain |
| 10:16.14 | Clord | and units floating over nothing |
| 10:16.16 | Clord | in it |
| 10:16.17 | Clord | lol |
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| 10:16.24 | Helral|Work | meow? |
| 10:16.44 | Clord | it was not so common as nobody reacted when I told from it |
| 10:16.45 | Demonette | Okay what was is again... faking selection circles... with refs |
| 10:17.18 | Kalekin | If you want you can follow these steps to get to my point |
| 10:17.24 | Kalekin | put some scvs on the map |
| 10:17.29 | Kalekin | disbale unit selection in triggers |
| 10:17.43 | Kalekin | make scvs clickable in data editor -> units |
| 10:17.52 | Kalekin | go to the scv Actor |
| 10:18.02 | Kalekin | add event for UnitClickLocal.SCV |
| 10:18.08 | Kalekin | Create GroundLocalSelection |
| 10:18.15 | Kalekin | that's it really |
| 10:18.26 | Kalekin | now to figure out how to destroy previous selection circles |
| 10:19.10 | Mexa | 40min til class and I should go up from bed z.z |
| 10:19.27 | Clord | shouldn't you be able to add that when unit is destroyed.... in event.... that it takes selection circle with him? XD |
| 10:19.41 | Clord | you chat in your bed? |
| 10:19.42 | Clord | lol |
| 10:19.43 | Kalekin | it already does that by default |
| 10:19.44 | Clord | I mean on |
| 10:19.44 | Clord | lol |
| 10:20.06 | Clord | destroy actor with trigger or something |
| 10:20.09 | Clord | it is not that big deal |
| 10:20.10 | Clord | lol |
| 10:20.14 | Kalekin | Well, that's messy |
| 10:20.22 | Kalekin | but the same problem occurs |
| 10:20.34 | Kalekin | how do I reference that previously clicked SCV to destroy it? |
| 10:20.48 | Kalekin | if I can do that, then I can just reference the previous selection circle and destroy that |
| 10:20.50 | Clord | trigger to detect when unit is selected |
| 10:20.53 | Clord | put unit to variable |
| 10:20.54 | Kalekin | No! |
| 10:21.08 | Kalekin | Triggers are synchronous |
| 10:21.09 | Clord | hehe |
| 10:21.11 | Kalekin | effected by latency |
| 10:21.13 | Kalekin | defeats the point >_> |
| 10:21.15 | Clord | I know |
| 10:21.17 | Clord | but what you can do |
| 10:21.32 | Clord | at least then you have something cool looking |
| 10:21.47 | Kalekin | Triggers are the last resort |
| 10:22.00 | Kalekin | maybe if I can't get this workin in a week :p |
| 10:22.30 | Clord | hehe btw... I have this one map what my most popular map advertises |
| 10:22.34 | Clord | it is Gaia Wars |
| 10:22.39 | Clord | there is Topaz WEAPON enemy XD |
| 10:22.45 | Clord | it guards nuclear facility |
| 10:22.51 | Clord | cruel thing is that it is damn strong |
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| 10:22.56 | Clord | lol |
| 10:23.00 | Kalekin | o.o |
| 10:23.02 | Kalekin | Random |
| 10:23.02 | Kalekin | :P |
| 10:23.11 | Clord | it is risk style map |
| 10:23.22 | Clord | but not like typical risk maps |
| 10:23.32 | Clord | no some.. let's have earth yet again! |
| 10:23.32 | Clord | XD |
| 10:23.55 | Clord | earth based risk maps are overdone and they are too similar |
| 10:26.07 | Clord | anyways about your ideal solutions.. unfortunately you would need SCII source code |
| 10:26.10 | Clord | and big team |
| 10:26.12 | Clord | just for that |
| 10:26.13 | Clord | XD |
| 10:26.36 | Kalekin | Naaah, just patience. :) |
| 10:30.07 | Clord | or to be more realistic |
| 10:30.17 | Clord | one guy with very good knowledge of programming language used |
| 10:30.20 | Clord | and tons of time |
| 10:30.22 | Clord | and source code |
| 10:30.23 | Clord | lol |
| 10:30.32 | Clord | third option is not gonna happen |
| 10:30.38 | Clord | what ruins entire plan XD |
| 10:31.34 | Demonette | =P |
| 10:36.50 | Demonette | oO poor SCVs they got trappen in greater spires |
| 10:41.59 | Mexa | Triggers are not the only thing affected by latency |
| 10:42.47 | Mexa | I mean, latency is not only affected by triggers |
| 10:42.49 | Mexa | durr. |
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| 10:51.24 | Helral|Work | hmmmmm |
| 10:51.32 | Helral|Work | currently uploading 1k of dds files .... |
| 10:58.37 | Helral|Work | hmmm can't find a specific dds file atm :S |
| 10:59.09 | Helral|Work | anyone know where blizzard hid ui_alliance_button_normalpressed.dds ? |
| 10:59.14 | Kueken | well, some dds files from my map disappeared magically after patch 1.3 :/ |
| 10:59.38 | Kueken | console -> browse -> search ;) |
| 10:59.42 | Helral|Work | it ain't the the Mods/core.sc2mod/base.sc2assets archive .... |
| 10:59.48 | Helral|Work | in the * |
| 11:00.03 | Kueken | just export it using the editor |
| 11:00.06 | Helral|Work | also not in the latest Versions folder. |
| 11:00.34 | Kueken | or open all related mpqs with mpq merge |
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| 11:00.40 | Kueken | and then search |
| 11:01.14 | Helral|Work | I wouldn't ask if I didn't check all mpqs that i know off ;p |
| 11:01.35 | Kueken | well, then check in editor and export from there |
| 11:01.41 | Kueken | probably the easiest way |
| 11:02.31 | Kueken | also note that assets which were patched in usually stay in the specific patch folders and are not present in the latest mpq or core mpq |
| 11:02.37 | Agouti | HAI HAI |
| 11:02.41 | Agouti | >_> |
| 11:03.00 | Kueken | so you need to include all patch mpqs to be able to find every single file |
| 11:03.16 | Helral|Work | you're telling me that they reload all the old patch.mpq files for the Assets? |
| 11:03.32 | Clord | hai-san |
| 11:03.33 | Clord | XD |
| 11:03.36 | Clord | lol |
| 11:03.38 | Kueken | just search for the newly introduced colored ability icons |
| 11:03.50 | Kueken | they are not present in the newest patch mpq file |
| 11:03.59 | Kueken | but only in some of the other patch files |
| 11:04.35 | Helral|Work | I'd say that ui_alliance_button_normalpressed.dds would be in the mods/core.sc2mod/case.sc2assets archive. seeing as it should be a core file. |
| 11:04.50 | Agouti | I like turtles |
| 11:04.56 | Helral|Work | they do have ui_alliance_button_normalpressed_zerg.dds and ui_alliance_button_normalpressed_protoss.dds there... |
| 11:04.59 | Kueken | maybe the icon was changed at some time |
| 11:05.16 | Kueken | or the general, no race icon was added later on |
| 11:05.21 | Helral|Work | even so they wouldn't remove it from the core, they'd just place it in the version and use the updated version. |
| 11:05.23 | Clord | review run is fun part of language...... it is like review and review some more with japanese |
| 11:05.25 | Kueken | because it was not needed first or smth |
| 11:05.30 | Helral|Work | well terran isn't there either. |
| 11:05.46 | Kueken | well, just theorycrafting here ;) |
| 11:05.46 | Helral|Work | or they made a stupid mistake and left out all the terran images? |
| 11:06.01 | Kueken | or this one s in campaign |
| 11:06.01 | Clord | blizzard way |
| 11:06.03 | Clord | wait months |
| 11:06.04 | Clord | for fix |
| 11:06.09 | Clord | because small patches are no no |
| 11:06.12 | Clord | unless it concerns melee |
| 11:06.27 | Clord | indirectly or directly |
| 11:06.31 | Demonette | Mmmhh |
| 11:06.38 | Agouti | Does anyone know why a Player Compare Food Available: GE 0 wouldn't work? |
| 11:06.47 | Helral|Work | this button would concern melee, cause it's the button which defines alliances. |
| 11:07.13 | Clord | in craftville where you grow zerglings... sometimes when map starts... hero icons are green instead show actual meant icons |
| 11:07.21 | Clord | it really ruins experience |
| 11:07.23 | Demonette | i thought i had these buttons once... mmmhh |
| 11:07.25 | Agouti | ^ |
| 11:07.25 | Clord | as it is quick way to check your farm |
| 11:07.29 | Agouti | same thing happening to me |
| 11:07.44 | Kueken | hero icons do not work, if you have zerg UI as of patch 1.3 |
| 11:07.46 | Agouti | btw |
| 11:07.48 | Agouti | Agouti> Does anyone know why a Player Compare Food Available: GE 0 wouldn't work? |
| 11:07.52 | Kueken | so choose another race and you are fine |
| 11:07.53 | Agouti | realy has me stumped |
| 11:08.02 | Clord | Kueken.... oh well.. then I must force some other race than zerg |
| 11:08.05 | Clord | for player |
| 11:08.05 | Helral|Work | Agouti: what you using it for? |
| 11:08.19 | Agouti | I want something disabled if the player is under supply |
| 11:08.44 | Clord | I wonder if craftville should be winnable or just save progress and let player come back for more |
| 11:08.46 | Agouti | however that validator is never returning false, even if the player is 200/0 |
| 11:08.49 | Clord | with no set overall goal XD |
| 11:08.58 | Clord | expect maybe to make more minerals |
| 11:09.03 | Clord | and get even more awesome zergs |
| 11:09.23 | Helral|Work | Agouti: his food available is 0 then. |
| 11:09.41 | Helral|Work | try setting it to GE 1 |
| 11:09.46 | Helral|Work | just for testing purpose ;p |
| 11:09.56 | Clord | I need somepoint start building dialog with various resources like |
| 11:09.56 | Agouti | AFAIK food availble means Supply - Used |
| 11:09.58 | Clord | foood supply |
| 11:10.02 | Clord | I mean food... |
| 11:10.04 | Agouti | but shall do |
| 11:10.04 | Clord | if you have no food |
| 11:10.07 | Clord | your zerglings will starve |
| 11:10.11 | Clord | and eventually die off |
| 11:10.17 | Clord | lol |
| 11:10.22 | Clord | so better use wallet |
| 11:10.27 | Demonette | Uhm helral? |
| 11:10.31 | Helral|Work | meow? |
| 11:10.42 | Demonette | i have an ui_alliance_button |
| 11:10.52 | Helral|Work | in which mpq is it located? ;p |
| 11:10.58 | Demonette | normalpressed.dds |
| 11:11.03 | Clord | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:11.14 | Clord | or make them cheat |
| 11:11.26 | Demonette | Uhm i just open a map and scrolled through the image-archive |
| 11:11.32 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 11:11.42 | Helral|Work | I'd prolly find it there as well if I weren't at work. |
| 11:11.52 | Demonette | Mmmhhh |
| 11:12.01 | Demonette | okay you need the MPQ mmmhh |
| 11:12.04 | Demonette | lets see |
| 11:12.59 | Agouti | ok so |
| 11:13.02 | Agouti | GE 1 |
| 11:13.03 | Agouti | works |
| 11:13.14 | Agouti | it won't return true if the player is under or equal supply |
| 11:13.16 | Agouti | however |
| 11:13.19 | Agouti | GE 0 |
| 11:13.21 | Agouti | does not |
| 11:13.26 | Agouti | YAY BUGS |
| 11:13.43 | Agouti | time to try G-1 |
| 11:14.05 | Agouti | which you can't do |
| 11:14.06 | Agouti | grrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 11:14.22 | Kueken | still need the MPQ? |
| 11:14.22 | Helral|Work | Agouti: well his food supply available is 0 when he's out of food and since sc2 melee doesn't work with undersupply effects, having 0 is good enough for them. |
| 11:14.27 | Helral|Work | yup |
| 11:14.30 | Stewox | ~seen bounty |
| 11:14.35 | purl | bounty <442d304d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.48.77> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 11h 34m 16s ago, saying: 'thought so'. |
| 11:14.35 | Agouti | well damn. |
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| 11:14.45 | Kueken | for me, its located in mods/Liberty/base.assets |
| 11:14.56 | Helral|Work | hmmm damn forgot about that one. |
| 11:15.07 | Helral|Work | the normal liberty archive. :S |
| 11:15.39 | Helral|Work | yay |
| 11:15.48 | Helral|Work | well I did check that one but my filemask was off :S |
| 11:16.01 | Helral|Work | had it set to ui_a, instead of ui_a* |
| 11:16.04 | Kueken | too bad |
| 11:16.38 | Demonette | XD |
| 11:17.08 | Helral|Work | I'm just uploading all available dds files to my server for usage with the UI generator :) |
| 11:17.22 | Clord | I need index zerg units to huge bank file... and then load any data there is when player comes back |
| 11:17.23 | Clord | XD |
| 11:17.31 | Demonette | Can i see it again now? =D |
| 11:17.38 | Demonette | does it look more pretty now? XD |
| 11:17.49 | Helral|Work | not yet ;p still need to upload all the images. |
| 11:18.25 | Demonette | Gnaa!! |
| 11:18.26 | Demonette | XD |
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| 11:30.07 | Clord | hehe |
| 11:30.11 | Clord | sometimes there is simple solutions |
| 11:30.21 | Clord | but ti somehow takes months to realize |
| 11:30.22 | Clord | lol |
| 11:37.34 | Helral|Work | hmmm it contains images now ;p just not the way I want it ;p |
| 11:42.43 | Clord | fortress fight updated |
| 11:42.45 | Clord | more polishing |
| 11:42.51 | Clord | as people has started to notice that map more and more |
| 11:43.01 | Clord | bookmarks are truly motivating |
| 11:46.31 | Agouti | I like bookmarks |
| 11:46.41 | Agouti | it's a better marker of how many regular players you have |
| 11:46.47 | MrOp | i like bewbuubes |
| 11:46.52 | MrOp | lol |
| 11:47.07 | Agouti | OK, anybody know how to set the in-game text for a requirement? |
| 11:47.37 | MrOp | nigh al |
| 11:47.41 | MrOp | night every1 |
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| 11:53.05 | Helral|Work | Agouti: use the Text Editor? |
| 11:53.23 | Helral|Work | no idea actually which terms it would use ;p |
| 11:53.35 | Agouti | I'm not sure that it is possible... requirements always seem to use an auto-generated text |
| 11:54.28 | Helral|Work | prolly tooltip text of the button associated with the requirement. |
| 11:54.47 | Helral|Work | or something like that. |
| 11:55.23 | A1win | any idea how to make a dynamically changing hexa color value <.< I want it to change from red to green based on a percentage |
| 11:56.15 | A1win | and use it in a color tag of a Text value |
| 11:56.58 | A1win | so I need some way to scale the value from FF0000 to 00FF00 |
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| 11:58.28 | Agouti | trigger? |
| 11:58.34 | A1win | mm |
| 11:58.43 | Agouti | would that be a simple while with a wait in it? |
| 11:58.51 | A1win | huh? |
| 11:59.17 | A1win | I just mean the function that converts a decimal percentage to a hexa value |
| 11:59.31 | Agouti | oh I thought you wanted a nice pretty fade |
| 11:59.34 | Agouti | that is even easier? |
| 11:59.37 | Agouti | oh wait |
| 11:59.40 | Agouti | GE |
| 12:00.51 | Agouti | OK you can get the color as a string |
| 12:01.12 | Agouti | and then chop it up |
| 12:01.19 | Agouti | and get it that way |
| 12:01.29 | Agouti | and vice-a-versa of course |
| 12:01.44 | Agouti | shouldn't be too hard |
| 12:01.48 | A1win | but the color string is as red,green,blue with values from 0 to 100 I think |
| 12:02.08 | A1win | or 0 to 255 |
| 12:02.11 | Agouti | color string is in hexa isn't it? |
| 12:02.28 | Agouti | try out the Convert Color To String trigger and see what it gives you |
| 12:03.23 | A1win | it isn't |
| 12:03.53 | Agouti | what did it give you? |
| 12:05.01 | A1win | Converts the RGB values of the specified Color to a string value with the format "<Red>,<Green>,<Blue>" |
| 12:05.38 | A1win | I've used it before, and I think those values are between 0 and 255 |
| 12:08.09 | Agouti | likely as not, yet |
| 12:08.11 | Agouti | yes* |
| 12:08.18 | A1win | I suppose I could write a function that converts a base 10 number to base 16 x.x |
| 12:08.28 | Agouti | that isn't that hard ;) |
| 12:08.55 | Agouti | search on the net there are pretty short and sweet ways of doing it |
| 12:08.58 | Agouti | with a while |
| 12:09.39 | Agouti | the way I've done it in the past |
| 12:09.53 | Agouti | is by just removing powers of (base) until it reaches zero |
| 12:10.45 | Agouti | modulo helps |
| 12:12.09 | A1win | so take x mod 16, use a case that outputs 10-15 as A-F and rest as 0-9, subtract the result, divide by 16 and repeat if != 0? |
| 12:12.48 | Agouti | that would work |
| 12:13.37 | Agouti | and store the result in an array |
| 12:13.39 | Agouti | or such |
| 12:13.49 | A1win | well, a string is fine for this purpose |
| 12:15.48 | Clord | pctionary has sweet color choicer |
| 12:19.24 | A1win | whee it works |
| 12:19.38 | A1win | except that I need it always as a 2 number value |
| 12:20.15 | Clord | lol |
| 12:20.34 | Clord | missile launch button works |
| 12:20.38 | Clord | expect it does not launch missile |
| 12:20.39 | Clord | XD |
| 12:21.29 | A1win | I'll just add if length == 1 then return "0" + string :P |
| 12:22.35 | A1win | err |
| 12:22.45 | A1win | why did it output E14 when I gave it 224 |
| 12:25.53 | A1win | but it works correctly with 223 O_o |
| 12:26.11 | Agouti | because the gremlins have decreed it so |
| 12:27.00 | A1win | it also returns E14 with 225 |
| 12:28.09 | A1win | I guess I have some bug in my logic =p |
| 12:28.56 | Helral|Work | you want to convert 255 to FF format? |
| 12:29.25 | A1win | yea ;p |
| 12:29.27 | Helral|Work | A1win: you forgot to get the rest value correctly |
| 12:29.45 | A1win | oh? |
| 12:29.52 | Helral|Work | int i = Value%16 (if I remember correctly this results in the rest value) |
| 12:30.01 | Helral|Work | but that could also be a Mod action. |
| 12:30.18 | Helral|Work | ;p |
| 12:30.30 | A1win | oh right |
| 12:31.00 | Helral|Work | otherwise take the long route :P int i = val - (Mod(val, 16)*16) |
| 12:31.13 | Helral|Work | or however Mod takes it's values. |
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| 12:32.28 | Ekals | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:33.50 | Helral|Work | meow |
| 12:35.09 | Ekals | Anyone who's advanced in triggers want to help me out with something? |
| 12:36.03 | Helral|Work | don't ask to ask but ask ;p |
| 12:36.11 | Ekals | alright |
| 12:36.11 | Ekals | This is for my tower defense. It runs whenever a unit walks over a "check point" region. However it generates a lot of lag. Why? |
| 12:36.17 | Ekals | http://pastebin.com/xtamPMpE |
| 12:36.23 | A1win | umm... but this should do it like this: take 244 mod 16 (0), take 244/16 mod 16 (14 = E), output "E0" |
| 12:36.33 | A1win | so where's that 14 coming from |
| 12:38.59 | Helral|Work | Ekals: that code doesn't seem to be the problem, check how often it is triggered with the trigger debugger. |
| 12:39.21 | A1win | http://pastebin.com/yfVgUHZh find the bug :P |
| 12:39.22 | Ekals | It's triggered every time a unit walks into the region. |
| 12:39.57 | Ekals | like imagine point A, B, and C. When a unit walks to A, he'll be directed to B; and so on. So everytime any unit enters one of those checkpoints, the trigger is fired. |
| 12:40.39 | Helral|Work | A1win: X mod 16 = 14 |
| 12:41.19 | Helral|Work | or is that 0... |
| 12:41.23 | Helral|Work | bahhh getting confused ;p |
| 12:41.23 | A1win | it's 14 |
| 12:41.29 | Helral|Work | ok |
| 12:41.38 | A1win | and case 14 results in E |
| 12:41.52 | A1win | in the switch |
| 12:42.12 | Helral|Work | then X = ((X-14)/16) --> ((244-14)/16) = (230/16) |
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| 12:42.44 | Helral|Work | what you prolly want is: X = (X-(Temp*16)) |
| 12:42.48 | A1win | 244 mod 16 = 4 |
| 12:43.00 | A1win | err |
| 12:43.00 | Helral|Work | hmmm |
| 12:43.08 | A1win | I used the wrong number in the example |
| 12:43.13 | TheAlmaity | Kewl, got the IRC to work in my universal IM program =D |
| 12:43.14 | A1win | 224 mod 16 = 14 |
| 12:43.19 | Helral|Work | ow lol |
| 12:43.24 | A1win | err no |
| 12:43.25 | A1win | <.< |
| 12:43.29 | A1win | 224 mod 16 = 0 |
| 12:43.45 | Helral|Work | ok so X should be the first number and Temp the second. |
| 12:43.47 | A1win | so after first iteration result should be "0" ? |
| 12:44.12 | A1win | X is the integer parameter |
| 12:44.13 | Helral|Work | btw |
| 12:44.18 | Helral|Work | your default action is wrong |
| 12:44.20 | Helral|Work | in the switch |
| 12:44.22 | A1win | oh? |
| 12:44.30 | A1win | true xD |
| 12:44.32 | Helral|Work | Variable - Set Result = ((String(X)) + Result) --> Variable - Set Result = ((String(Temp)) + Result) |
| 12:44.43 | A1win | that's probably it ;p |
| 12:45.03 | A1win | yea that fixed it |
| 12:45.18 | Helral|Work | bleh me got confused with mod. |
| 12:45.22 | A1win | hehe |
| 12:45.22 | Helral|Work | mod results in rest :) |
| 12:45.42 | Helral|Work | while int(X/Y) results in floor |
| 12:45.47 | A1win | yeah |
| 12:45.59 | A1win | hmm |
| 12:46.16 | A1win | I could just use X/16 instead of (x-16)/16 |
| 12:46.21 | A1win | since it's integer |
| 12:46.34 | Helral|Work | ;p |
| 12:46.51 | Kalekin | Ekals, what do you mean it generates a lot of lag? |
| 12:46.53 | Helral|Work | It would be funny if you actually got (x-16)/16 with that code. |
| 12:47.00 | Kalekin | Does the game start slowing down visually? |
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| 12:47.06 | A1win | hmm? |
| 12:47.14 | Ekals | It slows down significantly, until all the units are through the checkpoint. |
| 12:47.31 | Kalekin | Not a latency slow down though? |
| 12:47.34 | Kalekin | A graphical slow down? |
| 12:47.37 | Ekals | Graphical. |
| 12:47.38 | Ekals | It's like it's working extra hard to process the trigger running so many times in a row. |
| 12:47.39 | Helral|Work | Ekals: btw if you have the trigger debugger open with output, then that is your problem :P |
| 12:47.49 | Ekals | Oh crap. |
| 12:47.52 | Ekals | I do. |
| 12:47.52 | Kalekin | Ekals, I think your problem is Starcrafts debugger |
| 12:47.57 | Kalekin | :p |
| 12:48.00 | Ekals | Son of a b...... |
| 12:48.04 | Helral|Work | the time it takes to output is causing the lag. |
| 12:48.08 | Kalekin | ye |
| 12:48.12 | Ekals | Oh wow that makes so much sense |
| 12:48.13 | Kalekin | The larger the log gets, the slower shit gets |
| 12:48.20 | Kalekin | it will prolly work fine with the debugger closed |
| 12:48.21 | Ekals | I love you guys, lemme see if it'll fix it with the debugger off |
| 12:48.43 | Agouti | haha |
| 12:48.47 | Helral|Work | think you can rightclick the debugger window and just uncheck it. |
| 12:49.22 | Helral|Work | I never test lag on my pc, always on bnet ;p |
| 12:49.31 | Helral|Work | beause then I don't have the debugger active. |
| 12:51.46 | Ekals | Helral, Kalekin. It worked. Hell yeah, I can actually move on with my project now. |
| 12:51.53 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 12:51.53 | Ekals | This has been bugging me for weeks. |
| 12:51.57 | Helral|Work | roflol |
| 12:52.12 | Ekals | here, lemme show you something |
| 12:52.16 | Helral|Work | last thing you think about isn't it ;p |
| 12:52.35 | Ekals | yeah it really was. |
| 12:52.38 | Ekals | http://pastebin.com/eWV2xuqa this was my old code |
| 12:53.00 | Ekals | I rewrote it like 5 times in hopes of fixing the lag. I mean, ultimately, I got a much cleaner code as a result, but still. |
| 12:53.46 | Helral|Work | lemme show you something I'm working on ;p |
| 12:54.11 | Helral|Work | http://109.71.49.81/SC2UIGenerator.html |
| 12:54.23 | Helral|Work | still under construction ;p |
| 12:54.33 | Helral|Work | and be patient ;p loading takes a while (10s orso) |
| 12:54.40 | Kalekin | :) |
| 12:54.44 | Ekals | Crazy. |
| 12:54.47 | Helral|Work | it now has images ;p |
| 12:55.22 | Helral|Work | btw if you search in the tree at the side for: AllianceButton or CharacterSheetButton, and click on it then you see the other images at the top being repositioned. |
| 13:00.00 | A1win | pff |
| 13:00.07 | Helral|Work | hmm? |
| 13:00.13 | A1win | and now I realize a linear color blend for health isn't a good idea to begin with :P |
| 13:00.18 | A1win | it should be like steps of 5 |
| 13:00.20 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 13:00.23 | A1win | I mean in 5 steps |
| 13:00.38 | A1win | green, yellow-green, yellow, orange, red |
| 13:00.40 | Helral|Work | I don't use a linear blend I think. |
| 13:00.52 | Helral|Work | I just have green, orange, red. |
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| 13:01.49 | A1win | oh well at least I know now how to make a base 10 to base 16 converter =p |
| 13:01.55 | Helral|Work | :P |
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| 13:19.09 | A1win | how does the status bar life color behave? I noticed it turned orange at 50% and red around 25%... then yellow at 75% I guess? |
| 13:20.26 | A1win | hmm seems to turn yellow at 80% already |
| 13:20.50 | A1win | or does it.. |
| 13:20.56 | A1win | yeah |
| 13:21.52 | A1win | even sooner, mmh |
| 13:26.05 | A1win | yellow at < 85% |
| 13:26.19 | A1win | orange at < 60% |
| 13:26.40 | A1win | red at < 29% O_o |
| 13:26.48 | A1win | weird values |
| 13:27.26 | A1win | oh |
| 13:27.29 | A1win | orange is at < 57% |
| 13:28.18 | Kueken | psychology |
| 13:28.38 | Kueken | the unit appears to be closer to death than it really is |
| 13:28.45 | Kueken | same for diablo 2 |
| 13:28.47 | A1win | ah |
| 13:28.51 | Kueken | when your hp was at 50% |
| 13:28.58 | Kueken | it looked like it was at like 25 |
| 13:29.10 | Kueken | saved a lot of lifes, I guess :D |
| 13:29.16 | A1win | hehe |
| 13:30.00 | A1win | yay now my custom health display color is in sync with the status bar health color |
| 13:30.07 | A1win | a bit different shades but meh |
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| 13:31.45 | A1win | hmm could do the same for shields and energy with light <-> dark |
| 13:36.01 | A1win | or meh |
| 13:36.16 | A1win | too much flashing colors then |
| 13:53.22 | A1win | hmm if I wanted to give all units the ability to see on all cliffs (by giving them vision height 5 or so) would there be any way to block their vision through certain areas? |
| 13:55.10 | A1win | or maybe I just limit it to vision height 1 |
| 13:58.47 | A1win | or maybe I don't care about line of sight at all, just sight radius =p |
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| 14:36.23 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
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| 14:37.31 | Slaydon | Hiho, anyone know about a way to change the units model via Triggers / maybe through actors? |
| 14:37.42 | Slaydon | The easiest is ofcourse triggers / script |
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| 14:37.52 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 14:37.58 | JademusSreg | I know how to do it via actor. |
| 14:38.00 | ducky_ | i think you can send actor message to change model |
| 14:38.14 | JademusSreg | The message is ModelSwap. |
| 14:38.49 | JademusSreg | I'm guessing "ModelSwap " followed by the model id. |
| 14:39.06 | JademusSreg | Though it may need {}. |
| 14:40.01 | Slaydon | hu |
| 14:40.42 | Slaydon | Jademus, you think its possible through behavior? |
| 14:40.46 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 14:40.51 | Slaydon | hao |
| 14:41.35 | JademusSreg | Give the unit an actor event, with the event as Behavior.[name of behavior].On |
| 14:41.43 | JademusSreg | Give it the action of ModelSwap |
| 14:41.51 | Slaydon | I knew it >:, well, thanks anywho |
| 14:42.06 | JademusSreg | *unit actor |
| 14:42.38 | JademusSreg | Is that problematic? |
| 14:43.25 | Slaydon | its just, not systematic, alot of manual stuff |
| 14:43.55 | Slaydon | I just wish that we could edit data from the trigger editor someday |
| 14:43.59 | ducky_ | you can do it through triggers if you want.. it's mostly copy paste there >.> |
| 14:44.59 | Slaydon | orly |
| 14:45.10 | Slaydon | I mean in galaxy |
| 14:45.30 | ducky_ | there is difference? |
| 14:45.33 | Slaydon | like changeUnitModel("STRING"var); |
| 14:45.44 | Slaydon | easier with variables when you are making a system |
| 14:46.06 | Slaydon | atleast textmacros |
| 14:46.19 | JademusSreg | In this case... |
| 14:46.41 | JademusSreg | ActorSendMessage(actor,"ModelSwap dudebro"); |
| 14:47.12 | Slaydon | would that work? |
| 14:47.13 | Slaydon | O: |
| 14:47.21 | JademusSreg | That's what we've been saying. |
| 14:47.25 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka |
| 14:47.27 | Slaydon | damn |
| 14:47.48 | ducky_ | you can always check trigger editor to be sure :s |
| 14:47.53 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 14:48.16 | Slaydon | Wait, will that just trigger the event? |
| 14:48.34 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 14:48.39 | Slaydon | or is it like (UNIT, "ModelSwap THEMODEL); |
| 14:49.27 | JManV|Work | so there |
| 14:49.39 | JademusSreg | You're sending am essage to an actor, not a unit. |
| 14:49.46 | JManV|Work | s this ad for "the daily", professing to be "the first daily tablet newpaper" |
| 14:49.46 | JademusSreg | Hi Jman. |
| 14:49.55 | JManV|Work | apparently, they've never heard of "the internet" |
| 14:50.16 | JManV|Work | mornin |
| 14:52.18 | Slaydon | JManV BLASPHEMY |
| 14:55.28 | JManV|Work | i'm just saying, delivering news to a tablet PC isn't some revolutionary idea |
| 14:57.11 | Slaydon | Trying to access a element past the array |
| 14:57.13 | Slaydon | o_O |
| 14:57.20 | JademusSreg | I currently have no interest in tablets. But if/when they reach the point where they are no longer a novelty, I'll be interested. |
| 14:57.40 | Bibendus | hu? |
| 14:57.46 | JademusSreg | Slay, wha? |
| 14:57.54 | Slaydon | i kno |
| 14:57.59 | Slaydon | Im not even trying to O_o |
| 14:58.43 | JademusSreg | Where is the error? =D |
| 14:58.45 | JManV|Work | the asus slate looks really nice |
| 14:58.58 | JManV|Work | if it reached the point where it's not $1000, i'll be interested |
| 14:59.05 | Slaydon | the variables lets say 10 in script is actually 9 |
| 14:59.10 | Slaydon | so i just had to fix that lo |
| 15:00.48 | JademusSreg | I simply don't need mobile computing. =D |
| 15:00.55 | JManV|Work | i'd never buy an ipad tho, for the same reason i'd never by a mac |
| 15:01.05 | JademusSreg | Haha, I'm the same way Jman. |
| 15:01.32 | JManV|Work | well, i have a need for it, but mobile broadband's still pretty expensive |
| 15:01.38 | JademusSreg | Slay, in GUI, arrays are sized with an additional unused index at 0. |
| 15:01.45 | JManV|Work | when it reached ubiquity like cellphones... |
| 15:01.57 | JademusSreg | So if you define an array in GUI for 10 indexes, it will actually have 11. |
| 15:02.01 | Slaydon | I kknowz |
| 15:02.12 | JademusSreg | Wasteful as hell. |
| 15:02.19 | JManV|Work | being confined to wifi hotspots for a mobile device kind of sucks |
| 15:02.53 | JademusSreg | Yes. I similarly have no interest in "smart phones". |
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| 15:03.10 | JademusSreg | Hi grim. |
| 15:03.26 | JManV|Work | well, work requires that i have a smart phone |
| 15:03.31 | JManV|Work | thus, the pay for the service |
| 15:03.40 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 15:03.45 | JademusSreg | See, that makes sense. |
| 15:04.15 | JademusSreg | When I hear about 40-year-old unemployed mothers getting smart phones, I laugh. |
| 15:08.09 | grim001 | wtf, my fancy syntax highlighting from last night went away. |
| 15:08.17 | grim001 | err, I mean chatzilla motif. |
| 15:08.27 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 15:08.41 | Slaydon | is on Internet Explorer. |
| 15:08.58 | JManV|Work | IE ftw! |
| 15:09.06 | JademusSreg | is Chrome plated. |
| 15:10.03 | JManV|Work | chrome's pretty cool |
| 15:10.18 | Slaydon | How do i edit the order of Actor Events? |
| 15:10.27 | JademusSreg | Easily. |
| 15:10.36 | JademusSreg | But you should always add your actor events on the end. |
| 15:10.55 | JademusSreg | By clicking on the last event, then right click, then Add Event. |
| 15:11.21 | Slaydon | Not like that, how do i move them up? |
| 15:11.35 | JademusSreg | Why would one bother? |
| 15:11.51 | Slaydon | dno |
| 15:12.08 | JademusSreg | It doesn't make much of a difference. |
| 15:12.17 | JademusSreg | But if you want to, it can be done via xml editing. |
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| 15:13.07 | Slaydon | kk |
| 15:13.43 | JManV|Work | so i realized something yesterday that complicates things quite a bit |
| 15:13.51 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 15:14.29 | JManV|Work | the stories of each player don't necessarily run concurrently |
| 15:14.56 | JManV|Work | so say i trigger the first part of the story where i run into stetmann in the grass |
| 15:15.11 | JManV|Work | when i go into stetmann's lab, he's supposed to be there |
| 15:15.29 | JManV|Work | but if you haven't triggered that event, he's not supposed to be there for you |
| 15:15.53 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 15:16.09 | JademusSreg | Yes, it does complicate things quite a bit. |
| 15:16.40 | JManV|Work | i'm thinking i can ally a player to another computer player only during story elements |
| 15:16.45 | JManV|Work | otherwise, they are neutral |
| 15:16.49 | JManV|Work | and use actor filters |
| 15:17.11 | JManV|Work | ofc you'd still walk around the invisible unit |
| 15:17.17 | grim001 | Right now I am checking out Beier's galaxy editor. |
| 15:17.25 | JManV|Work | i'm not sure that's a big deal tho |
| 15:17.37 | grim001 | I will be surprised if it meets my expectations though. |
| 15:17.58 | JademusSreg | grim, which one is that? galaxy++? |
| 15:18.15 | grim001 | It is called "Beiers Galaxy Script Editor" |
| 15:18.28 | grim001 | and it's on the front page of mapster right now. |
| 15:19.13 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 15:19.41 | Sixen | I think he did a decent job |
| 15:19.53 | JManV|Work | i'm reralizing a number of points, however, where pokemon just wasn't designed as a multi-player environment |
| 15:19.55 | Sixen | Ya grim, if you uploaded your Notepad++ package before I put that post up, i'd have included it as well |
| 15:20.00 | Sixen | :( |
| 15:20.18 | JademusSreg | Is it nearly time for another mysterious silly picture? |
| 15:20.23 | Sixen | Nearly ;) |
| 15:20.28 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 15:20.45 | Sixen | Oh my gawd, ProziacMuze is still here. /boggle. |
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| 15:21.45 | grim001 | Sixen, it's not possible to edit news posts? :P |
| 15:22.19 | Sixen | I suppose I could :p |
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| 15:22.51 | wOlfLinG | :/ I keep getting crashes with my GameUI.SC2Layout file |
| 15:23.09 | wOlfLinG | Whenever I try to test with it imported, i get a crash |
| 15:23.18 | wOlfLinG | But all other files work fine >< |
| 15:23.32 | wOlfLinG | Anyone have any ideas what the problem could be? |
| 15:24.43 | JManV|Work | you can't replace the default UI files |
| 15:24.46 | JademusSreg | Aren't they removing support/broke support for that? |
| 15:25.03 | Demonette | Uhm can i set an portrait to be above an dialog? |
| 15:25.05 | JademusSreg | It was featured on mapster and everything. Hard to miss. |
| 15:25.16 | JademusSreg | Demonette, yes. |
| 15:25.21 | wOlfLinG | JmanV, how am I meant to hide the UI then, and move the command card? |
| 15:25.26 | Demonette | and how? =/ |
| 15:25.27 | JademusSreg | I've never done it myself, but it can be done. |
| 15:25.32 | wOlfLinG | The command card one works fine |
| 15:25.34 | Demonette | damned XD |
| 15:25.44 | Jum-Jum | My nick |
| 15:25.48 | Jum-Jum | the nick Jum-Jum |
| 15:25.51 | Jum-Jum | is it easy to remember? |
| 15:26.00 | JademusSreg | Hiding the UI is trivial with triggers. |
| 15:26.06 | wOlfLinG | I know |
| 15:26.12 | Jum-Jum | Im thinking about making a map and basically just call it Jum-Jum Co-Op Map Nr.1 or something |
| 15:26.16 | wOlfLinG | But I want hide almost everything |
| 15:26.28 | Jum-Jum | so people played it and like "Hm, lets play nr 2! What was his name again... oh I remember! It's Jum-Jum!" |
| 15:26.29 | wOlfLinG | All i want to keep is a modified command card and modified minimap |
| 15:26.35 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 15:26.43 | JademusSreg | Like I said, trivial. |
| 15:26.49 | JademusSreg | I showed Shawn how to do it. |
| 15:27.06 | JademusSreg | For his turn based project. |
| 15:27.09 | JManV|Work | just because it works fine now doesn't mean it will continue to in the future |
| 15:27.11 | wOlfLinG | k. So I can edit the command card stuff, but not the gameui file? |
| 15:27.21 | Jum-Jum | Demonette: Watcha think? |
| 15:27.25 | JManV|Work | you can not replace ANY of the default UI files |
| 15:27.38 | Demonette | Of naming a map jumjum? |
| 15:27.40 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 15:27.43 | Jum-Jum | yes |
| 15:27.53 | JademusSreg | Adding your name to a map is kinda lame. |
| 15:27.57 | Jum-Jum | yeah it is... |
| 15:27.59 | Sixen | Alright grim, I just added a little 'sum 'sum to the post, :P |
| 15:28.02 | Jum-Jum | but I dont know what to call it |
| 15:28.08 | Sixen | What's wron with JademusSreg's Defense of the Ancients? |
| 15:28.12 | Sixen | It's only 26 characters. |
| 15:28.13 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 15:28.15 | Jum-Jum | lol |
| 15:28.25 | JademusSreg | Call it Super Awesome Fun Times Refreshing Feeling. |
| 15:28.28 | Sixen | Actually, Jade, we should co-author it. |
| 15:28.36 | Sixen | Sixen and JademusSreg's Defense of the Ancients |
| 15:28.37 | Jum-Jum | It's not like I want people to recognize me or ... like famewhore or anything. I just want people to play it and remember it :| |
| 15:28.50 | Sixen | Just messin' with you JJ :P |
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| 15:29.16 | Jum-Jum | Also I saw a documentary about names, something that has like... 'two' names or however you translate it too. Like Coca-Cola or Greta Garbo |
| 15:29.21 | JademusSreg | The Illustrious Sixen and JademusSreg's Pontifex Advent: Return Of Dominus Yale DOTA/AOS/MOBA |
| 15:29.37 | Sixen | Don't forget version #. |
| 15:29.43 | Sixen | Version 4.564097630.3429709 Beta. |
| 15:29.43 | JademusSreg | Ah yes, my mistake. |
| 15:29.51 | Jum-Jum | But the best one (the guy on the documentary) said was Marilyn Manson. Because then you have Marilyn Monroe and Charlie Manson |
| 15:29.55 | Sixen | Revision 12. |
| 15:29.58 | JademusSreg | And we must keep it in perpetual Beta. |
| 15:30.02 | Jum-Jum | Whos Pontifex? |
| 15:30.05 | Sixen | Oh shit |
| 15:30.08 | Sixen | I have to go to class ;o |
| 15:30.11 | wOlfLinG | Ok, so to modify the UI now, I have to use something in the data editor? |
| 15:30.12 | JademusSreg | Later. |
| 15:30.31 | JademusSreg | Pontifex Advent: Return of Dominus Yale is the name of my moba map. |
| 15:30.35 | Jum-Jum | ah |
| 15:30.49 | Jum-Jum | I use to know someone who played Savage 2 named Pontifx |
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| 15:30.55 | JademusSreg | Now let's see who gets the joke first. |
| 15:31.07 | Jum-Jum | I dont know what it means |
| 15:31.08 | Jum-Jum | :( |
| 15:31.10 | Sixen | yay PARDY! |
| 15:31.12 | Helral | what joke? |
| 15:31.15 | Sixen | pariody* |
| 15:31.17 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 15:31.19 | Sixen | parody** |
| 15:31.22 | Sixen | Lawd, I can't type |
| 15:31.24 | Sixen | k, class. cya |
| 15:31.25 | Helral | lol Sixen ;p |
| 15:31.28 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka |
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| 15:31.34 | Jum-Jum | Dakka dakka dakka! |
| 15:31.43 | JademusSreg | Needs more dakka |
| 15:31.46 | JademusSreg | pew pew |
| 15:34.04 | JManV|Work | that's "moar" dakka... get it right! |
| 15:34.25 | JademusSreg | No, I refuse! |
| 15:34.39 | JManV|Work | i can't have you spelling things correctly! |
| 15:35.34 | JademusSreg | You can't stop me! |
| 15:36.05 | wOlfLinG | Jademus, yu hav spelt corectly! Yo mus now dei! |
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| 15:36.15 | JManV|Work | if you were an ork that wanted moar dakka, would you really spell it "more"? |
| 15:36.26 | JManV|Work | or would you barely be able to write at all? :P |
| 15:36.35 | JademusSreg | If I were an ork, I wouldn't fucking spell anything ever. |
| 15:36.38 | Jum-Jum | Boss, we'z gettin shot at!! |
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| 15:36.59 | wOlfLinG | wantz moar dakka! |
| 15:37.08 | JManV|Work | they'z brought the big shooty stix! |
| 15:37.28 | JademusSreg | WAAAAAAGGGGHHHHH |
| 15:37.36 | temhawk | hi. is it possible to use a non-proportional font in dialog labels, text messages, etc.? |
| 15:37.45 | wOlfLinG | Bozz, they iz hitting me wiv pointy stuf. Wat me do? |
| 15:37.54 | JademusSreg | Ork psykers, how crazy are those? |
| 15:38.01 | JademusSreg | tem, wha? |
| 15:38.13 | temhawk | i want a fixed-width font |
| 15:38.44 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 15:39.49 | temhawk | i'm displaying a long number that changes rapdily and i don't like it 'jumping around' :) |
| 15:40.28 | JademusSreg | "The states with the highest rates of religious participation also tend to have very high obesity rates" wakka wakka Science is fun! |
| 15:40.32 | temhawk | so did Blizz give us more than 1 font? |
| 15:40.52 | JManV|Work | i think we get like two |
| 15:41.32 | JManV|Work | i'm told you can add fonts tho, but i'm not sure how that works |
| 15:41.53 | JademusSreg | I'm looking at one right now. |
| 15:42.08 | JManV|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.09 | JManV|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.09 | JManV|Work | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:42.20 | temhawk | cool |
| 15:42.23 | JManV|Work | so yeah, that's basically just 1 font |
| 15:43.37 | JademusSreg | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.06 | JManV|Work | still not fixed-width |
| 15:44.06 | JademusSreg | So 4. |
| 15:44.21 | JademusSreg | Just add one that is. =D |
| 15:44.26 | JademusSreg | Then cross fingers. |
| 15:44.50 | temhawk | where are you reading this from? |
| 15:44.50 | JManV|Work | you could theoretically import one, and point to it in the same fashion |
| 15:45.02 | JManV|Work | that's the default sc2style file |
| 15:45.08 | temhawk | ah thanks |
| 15:45.10 | JManV|Work | http://www.sc2mapster.com/api-docs/game-files/layout/font-styles-sc2style/ |
| 15:45.13 | temhawk | i'll try it |
| 15:45.32 | JManV|Work | have you messed with sc2style files? |
| 15:45.41 | temhawk | nope, not yet :) |
| 15:45.44 | JManV|Work | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/17978-dialogs-really-great-looking-dialogs-part-2/ |
| 15:45.47 | JManV|Work | tutorial |
| 15:45.59 | JManV|Work | covers some other things, but custom styles is a big part |
| 15:46.00 | temhawk | thank you |
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| 15:48.30 | grim001 | Poll: Do you take advantage of code folding while writing code? |
| 15:48.44 | JManV|Work | absolutely |
| 15:48.59 | JademusSreg | Depends on volume. After a certain point, yes. |
| 15:49.00 | Clord | writing the code? madness! |
| 15:49.05 | Clord | what words you speak of |
| 15:49.10 | Clord | sir.grim |
| 15:49.11 | Clord | XD |
| 15:49.18 | SouLCarveR | Anybody know why the fire work model doesnt always play its animation, when I have it being created on a bevahior.created? |
| 15:49.25 | Clord | yeah bad attempt of old times english ^^ |
| 15:49.39 | grim001 | Well I've noticed that code folding doesn't work with my theme for a couple of reasons. I'd have to make some sacrifices to fix it. |
| 15:50.05 | grim001 | because notepad++ is lame. |
| 15:50.22 | SouLCarveR | any actor/model pros aroud? |
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| 15:51.12 | Clord | it is funny to read chat where people speak of their stuff and ask questions but not react to eachother |
| 15:51.14 | JademusSreg | grim, that is hilarious. |
| 15:51.26 | Clord | sc2mapster chat is famous of it |
| 15:51.27 | Clord | lol |
| 15:51.46 | Clord | should sell tickets |
| 15:52.40 | JademusSreg | Clord, Chekov thought people do not so much communicate with one another, so much as they talk around each other, each in their own conversation, and he wrote his dialogue accordingly. |
| 15:53.13 | JManV|Work | people are inately self-involved |
| 15:53.22 | JademusSreg | Soul, I do not understand the question. |
| 15:55.21 | JademusSreg | Unrelated; this is a pretty sweet throne. http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/upload/2011/03/throne.jpeg |
| 15:55.24 | JManV|Work | gah! i hate my job sometimes! |
| 15:55.59 | JManV|Work | 9/10 a problem is caused by user error. 10/10 i am the one who has to find it. |
| 15:56.26 | JManV|Work | and when like 4 ppl come to me at the same time, i want to just pull my hair out |
| 15:57.15 | JManV|Work | like, "you do understand i need to do *real* work, right?" |
| 15:57.30 | JademusSreg | When I was younger, I thought it might be fun to work as a programmer. Then I changed my mind, as I wanted to dedicate my time to something more productive, like plumbing. |
| 15:57.40 | JManV|Work | "i understand this is important, but you need to understand that you most likely created the situation yourself" |
| 15:58.54 | JademusSreg | Another one! http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/galaxy-scripting-and-trigger-lib/20118-galaxy-x/#p1 |
| 16:08.04 | SouLCarveR | Umm JademusSreg ..... my actor works but it seems to not always play the animation.... currently the actor is set to use the "firework" model.... if I change it to "Light OmniLight Red" it shows 100% of the time |
| 16:13.31 | JademusSreg | Interesting. |
| 16:13.38 | JademusSreg | When does it show? |
| 16:13.58 | JademusSreg | Presumably it isn't random. |
| 16:18.42 | SouLCarveR | its not really random |
| 16:18.50 | SouLCarveR | it shows when the behavior is created on a unit |
| 16:18.59 | SouLCarveR | creates the actor and plays the stand animation |
| 16:19.21 | SouLCarveR | basically I have about 20 units running through an aoe that applys the behavior |
| 16:19.34 | SouLCarveR | when the behavior is created it creates the actor and plays the animation |
| 16:19.43 | SouLCarveR | but I dont see a firework for ever unit running through it |
| 16:19.48 | SouLCarveR | seems rather random to me |
| 16:22.16 | grim001 | anyone used this horrid project management system on mapster? |
| 16:22.24 | grim001 | because I cannot figure out how to make 2 different files available for download. |
| 16:22.40 | grim001 | i uploaded a 2nd file but it disappeared into the abyss. |
| 16:24.00 | JManV|Work | so i'm 4/4 so far today... every error was user-generated |
| 16:24.18 | grim001 | can I just... not use the download system and post my own links? that'd be great. |
| 16:24.24 | JademusSreg | That's odd, Soul. |
| 16:25.16 | grim001 | Oh, it only shows up in the "Files" tab on top. |
| 16:25.31 | JademusSreg | On which units is it not working? |
| 16:26.39 | SouLCarveR | all the units are the same |
| 16:26.45 | SouLCarveR | currently testing on zerglings |
| 16:26.50 | SouLCarveR | they all get the behavior |
| 16:27.10 | SouLCarveR | I think it has something to do with the actors playing in the same spot |
| 16:27.15 | SouLCarveR | and hiding eachother |
| 16:27.26 | JademusSreg | That doesn't make sense. |
| 16:27.26 | SouLCarveR | but fireworks really shouldnt hide eachother |
| 16:27.51 | SouLCarveR | or its playing a variant that doesnt exist |
| 16:27.59 | JademusSreg | Could be. |
| 16:28.07 | SouLCarveR | dunno how to control that though |
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| 16:28.08 | JademusSreg | How many variations do you have? |
| 16:28.16 | SouLCarveR | its the standard fireworks model |
| 16:28.30 | JademusSreg | I know. It has 3 variations, and 3 events. |
| 16:28.37 | JademusSreg | One for eavh variation. |
| 16:28.51 | grim001 | OK, if anyone was using the non-folding version and wants to "upgrade" to the folding version of that theme all you need to do is replace the userDefineLang file. |
| 16:29.00 | JademusSreg | (0|1|2):(Stand, Variation 00|Stand, Variation 00|Stand, Variation 00):(UniFireworks|UniFireworks|UniFireworks):(Sound|Sound|Sound):(0.3400|2.8200|4.8500):(Unknown|Unknown|Unknown):(Uni_Fireworks|Uni_Fireworks|Uni_Fireworks):(Any|Any|Any) |
| 16:29.02 | grim001 | but for now I will be going to lunch |
| 16:30.25 | SouLCarveR | well currently im playing |
| 16:30.28 | SouLCarveR | Stand Stand |
| 16:30.48 | SouLCarveR | Im terrible at actor messages lol |
| 16:31.14 | JademusSreg | Stand Stand, the second part is the animation. First part is just a label. |
| 16:32.18 | JademusSreg | Try adding Variation 00 after Stand. |
| 16:35.34 | SouLCarveR | im also trying to play it in .6 seconds |
| 16:35.40 | SouLCarveR | so blend in .3 |
| 16:35.44 | SouLCarveR | bend out .3 |
| 16:35.48 | SouLCarveR | time variant .6 |
| 16:35.51 | SouLCarveR | is that correct? |
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| 16:36.15 | SouLCarveR | time type = duration |
| 16:36.39 | JademusSreg | I don't why you'd include blend in blend out and variant, exactly. |
| 16:37.00 | SouLCarveR | it controls the play speed doesnt it? |
| 16:37.17 | JademusSreg | Blend controls the blend time between animations. |
| 16:37.30 | JademusSreg | Not the animation speed. |
| 16:38.09 | JademusSreg | A blend longer than the animation itself might cause it to not be shown. |
| 16:39.40 | SouLCarveR | well I set the blends back to be automatic |
| 16:39.52 | SouLCarveR | what about the overal play time of the actor itself |
| 16:39.57 | SouLCarveR | on the animation tab |
| 16:40.04 | SouLCarveR | I have that set to .6 seconds |
| 16:40.17 | SouLCarveR | if that isnt as long as the animation itself I spose it might not play |
| 16:40.28 | SouLCarveR | but I though it speeds up the animation to play within the animation time |
| 16:41.28 | SouLCarveR | well heres another question .... the animation time on the fire works is 6 seconds in the preview |
| 16:41.37 | SouLCarveR | but my behavior only lasts 2 seconds |
| 16:41.48 | SouLCarveR | how do I destroy the actor after the animation |
| 16:41.55 | SouLCarveR | instead of when the behavior is destroyed |
| 16:42.28 | JademusSreg | Sorry busy. |
| 16:42.44 | SouLCarveR | =( |
| 16:44.39 | JademusSreg | Have someone here working on the heating cooling system, a clingy baby, and I am ill. |
| 16:45.46 | SouLCarveR | well thanx for the help so far |
| 16:45.52 | SouLCarveR | seems to be more consistent |
| 16:46.08 | SouLCarveR | I do need to destroy the actors after the animation though |
| 16:46.19 | SouLCarveR | or does the game destroy them on its own.... I dont think it does |
| 16:46.32 | JademusSreg | Unless the actors clean themselves up. |
| 16:49.14 | SouLCarveR | looks like it works not |
| 16:49.21 | SouLCarveR | I was destroying them too soon |
| 16:49.32 | SouLCarveR | now I just need to destroy them after the animation.... any clues? |
| 16:49.44 | JademusSreg | Some actors can be made to do that. |
| 16:50.07 | JademusSreg | For instance, you can set it to occur on behavior off. |
| 16:50.49 | SouLCarveR | I switched it to the effect that creates the behavior |
| 16:50.49 | JademusSreg | Behavior.whatever.Off -> Destroy |
| 16:51.08 | SouLCarveR | yeah the behavior.off ... was destroying them too soon |
| 16:51.09 | JademusSreg | Ew. |
| 16:51.21 | JademusSreg | In that case, use a timer. |
| 16:51.59 | JademusSreg | Have an actor creation event start a timer, and when the timer ends, destroy. |
| 16:52.25 | SouLCarveR | ah |
| 16:52.28 | SouLCarveR | Ill try that |
| 16:52.34 | SouLCarveR | never used a timer before |
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| 16:55.40 | bone123 | hi |
| 16:55.57 | bone123 | is the dds export bugged? getting invalid file |
| 16:56.03 | bone123 | when trying to save |
| 16:58.14 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 16:58.20 | JademusSreg | I always extract via mpq editor. |
| 16:59.02 | bone123 | is there a list where which dds is hidden? |
| 16:59.31 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 16:59.50 | JademusSreg | Assets are in the asset mpqs. |
| 16:59.51 | bone123 | they are not all in the same mpq arn't they? |
| 17:00.05 | JademusSreg | And each mod has its own asset mpq. |
| 17:01.26 | Kalekin | If one destroys an actor reference, does it destroy the actors contained in said reference or merely the reference itself? |
| 17:02.09 | JademusSreg | Destroying an actor scope destroys the actors in said scope. |
| 17:02.11 | bone123 | jademus, do you know in which patch they've added the colored icons? |
| 17:02.24 | Kalekin | And a reference is merely an actor scope? |
| 17:02.33 | JademusSreg | Was that 1.2 or earlier? I forget. |
| 17:02.56 | JademusSreg | Kale, could you be more specific about what you mean by reference? |
| 17:03.01 | bone123 | found it :) 16561 |
| 17:03.06 | JademusSreg | I'm a bit out of sorts today. |
| 17:03.41 | Kalekin | Okay lemme explain my current situation |
| 17:03.58 | Kalekin | I have an actor, that upon it's creation, creates a reference and adds itself to said reference. |
| 17:04.33 | Kalekin | If another one of these actors is created, it destroys the reference (and hopefully the previously created actor contained therein) and recreates/readds itself to the new reference |
| 17:04.49 | Kalekin | Problem I have the moment is that the actor seems to be creating itself and then destroying itself straight away |
| 17:06.28 | Kalekin | My actor events are as follows: |
| 17:06.28 | Kalekin | RefNotify.*.Destroy |
| 17:06.30 | Kalekin | RefDestroy TestReference |
| 17:06.32 | Kalekin | RefNotify.*.Destroy |
| 17:06.34 | Kalekin | Destroy |
| 17:06.36 | Kalekin | ActorCreation.TestActor |
| 17:06.38 | Kalekin | RefNotify TestReference Destroy |
| 17:06.40 | Kalekin | ActorCreation.TestActor |
| 17:06.42 | Kalekin | RefCreate TestReferece |
| 17:06.44 | Kalekin | ActorCreation.TestActor |
| 17:06.46 | Kalekin | RefSet TestReference ::Self |
| 17:07.09 | Kalekin | For some reason the actor is detroying itself upon creation |
| 17:07.28 | Kalekin | almost as if it is adding itself to the reference and THEN sending the "Destroy" notication |
| 17:07.34 | Kalekin | even though I clearly have it the other way round |
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| 17:14.10 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
| 17:16.09 | Kalekin | Well it would be neato but it doesn't work |
| 17:16.11 | Kalekin | O.o |
| 17:16.28 | Kalekin | no idea why it would be destroy the actor as soon as it is created? :/ |
| 17:16.44 | SouLCarveR | anybody know why playing an effect actor on a different unit ... scales the newly created actor differently? |
| 17:17.20 | Kalekin | My first guess is some flag on the Effect Actor that tells it to inherity the scale of it's parent? |
| 17:17.29 | Kalekin | *inherit |
| 17:17.30 | JademusSreg | Because the default is to inherit scale? |
| 17:17.54 | JademusSreg | Yes, as Kale said. =D |
| 17:18.14 | bone123 | http://i.imgur.com/byguk.jpg dd save as what :D |
| 17:18.18 | bone123 | *dds |
| 17:19.04 | Kalekin | there was some Tut somewhere that tells you what to save it as |
| 17:19.09 | Kalekin | I think in the art section |
| 17:19.12 | Kalekin | or the 3rd party tools |
| 17:19.17 | Kalekin | but I think it is 8.8.8.8 unsigned |
| 17:19.18 | JademusSreg | Kale, have you tried debugging by removing actor events? |
| 17:19.26 | Kalekin | I have Jade |
| 17:19.30 | Demonette | DXT3 |
| 17:19.32 | Kalekin | if I change RefNotify TestReference Destroy |
| 17:19.35 | Kalekin | to some bogus message |
| 17:19.44 | Kalekin | then the actors never get destroyed |
| 17:19.50 | JademusSreg | I figured. =D |
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| 17:20.07 | Kalekin | so it's definitely the notify causing my actor to dissapear straight away |
| 17:20.10 | SouLCarveR | so how do I set an actor not to inherit scale? |
| 17:20.13 | JademusSreg | Demonette is spot on. I used the same tutorial. |
| 17:20.15 | Kalekin | but I can't imagine why unless it is performing the events out of order |
| 17:20.24 | JademusSreg | Soul, it's a flag in the actor. |
| 17:20.26 | Kalekin | Oh, DXT3? |
| 17:20.28 | Demonette | Mh? |
| 17:20.40 | Demonette | i didn't locked at any tutorial XD |
| 17:20.42 | JademusSreg | Kale, order tends not to do anything. |
| 17:20.46 | Demonette | looked |
| 17:20.46 | Demonette | ... |
| 17:20.52 | JademusSreg | The event order is hardly relevent. |
| 17:21.02 | Demonette | but i usally use the one with the 3 for my icons |
| 17:21.12 | Kalekin | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/artist-tavern/9662-article-modelling-and-exporting-for-star-craft2/#p1 |
| 17:21.17 | Kalekin | that's the tut I am referring to |
| 17:21.19 | Demonette | and i never had any problems with it so DXT3 seems to work |
| 17:21.23 | Kalekin | and they use 8.8.8.8 unsigned for their DDS saving |
| 17:21.25 | SouLCarveR | none of my Inherits flags are checked.... |
| 17:21.34 | Kalekin | Jademus, not? |
| 17:21.37 | Kalekin | That's a pain. o.o |
| 17:21.46 | Demonette | Pain =D |
| 17:21.49 | Kalekin | Explains why I can't move shit up and down actor events |
| 17:25.22 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 17:25.31 | JademusSreg | You can via xml, but it doesn't make a difference anyway. |
| 17:26.06 | Kalekin | Hrmmmm... |
| 17:28.34 | bone123 | dtx3 is working :) |
| 17:28.42 | SouLCarveR | Ok so my actor.... is set not to inherit anything.... but it is inheriting scale..... any idea's I can check on the flag for it to inherit scale but doesnt make a difference. |
| 17:29.50 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 17:31.07 | SouLCarveR | not to mention theres 3 different flags on the actor that say something like "inherit scale from host" they all are not checked. |
| 17:35.58 | SouLCarveR | no ideas? |
| 17:36.49 | JademusSreg | Try an actor event to set absolute scale. |
| 17:38.11 | SouLCarveR | thats what im trying right now jade |
| 17:38.16 | SouLCarveR | hope it work |
| 17:38.18 | SouLCarveR | works |
| 17:39.56 | SouLCarveR | well that seems to do the trick |
| 17:40.03 | SouLCarveR | stupid the flags on the actor dont work |
| 17:40.16 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka |
| 17:40.17 | SouLCarveR | now to try and set up this timer on the actor correctly |
| 17:42.15 | JademusSreg | There are a number onf actors that do it, but I don't know which. =D |
| 17:42.34 | JademusSreg | I've used it a few times, too. Very neat. |
| 17:42.37 | SouLCarveR | yeah |
| 17:42.45 | SouLCarveR | progammer has a good example of one |
| 17:43.13 | SouLCarveR | not really sure how to verify its working correctly |
| 17:43.14 | SouLCarveR | eh |
| 17:43.36 | JademusSreg | By having the tiomer do something else on expire instead. |
| 17:43.37 | SouLCarveR | seriously wish you could add more then 1 action per actor event |
| 17:43.45 | JademusSreg | Something big and obvious. |
| 17:43.54 | SouLCarveR | well fire work actors can only do so much |
| 17:43.58 | SouLCarveR | id have to change the model |
| 17:44.16 | JademusSreg | Just create a drakken laser drill. |
| 17:44.29 | JademusSreg | So it will be obvious if the timer is working. |
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| 17:45.19 | SouLCarveR | create one with an actor message? |
| 17:45.28 | SouLCarveR | Ill try |
| 17:46.04 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 17:47.13 | SouLCarveR | umm |
| 17:47.21 | SouLCarveR | what message do I use to create a unit? |
| 17:47.28 | SouLCarveR | or well another actor? |
| 17:47.33 | JademusSreg | Naw, just create the actor. |
| 17:47.38 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 17:47.51 | SouLCarveR | theres a the create message but not quite sure on the additional parameters |
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| 17:49.08 | SouLCarveR | set it to create bags |
| 17:49.14 | SouLCarveR | do I need to give the message a "name" |
| 17:49.17 | SouLCarveR | ? |
| 17:51.07 | SouLCarveR | hmm dont see them gettting created |
| 17:51.33 | JademusSreg | launches editor. |
| 17:52.24 | SouLCarveR | wish actors could create text messages lol |
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| 17:53.42 | JademusSreg | Create Name: the actor you are creating Content: don't do anything with this |
| 17:53.57 | Bibendus|AFK | editor flies out of the window |
| 17:53.58 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 2 hours 56 minutes 17 seconds |
| 17:54.03 | SouLCarveR | oh the name has to be the literal string name of the actor? |
| 17:54.32 | JademusSreg | Naw. Go to the Actor dot. |
| 17:54.42 | JademusSreg | Instead of Custom dot. |
| 17:54.49 | JademusSreg | Above the input field. |
| 17:55.38 | zeta3 | is the random integer function closed or open, is rand(0,3) would it be random 1,2 or, random over 0,1,2,3 |
| 17:55.56 | SouLCarveR | i have Name:10SlotBag Custom:"blank" |
| 17:57.18 | SouLCarveR | zeta ... It should be inclusive |
| 17:57.18 | JademusSreg | zeta, latter. |
| 17:57.29 | zeta3 | doesnt seem like it |
| 17:57.33 | SouLCarveR | well |
| 17:57.36 | SouLCarveR | put a wait |
| 17:57.39 | SouLCarveR | if your looping hard |
| 17:57.52 | SouLCarveR | its not very random if you ask me |
| 17:58.05 | SouLCarveR | they did add a function to change the random seed or something |
| 17:58.09 | SouLCarveR | which may help you |
| 17:58.12 | JademusSreg | I wrote an RNG if you want to use that. |
| 17:58.15 | zeta3 | nm i just needed more seed iterations |
| 18:01.56 | SouLCarveR | so yeah |
| 18:01.59 | SouLCarveR | tyring this |
| 18:02.05 | SouLCarveR | on Creation |
| 18:02.09 | SouLCarveR | create banshee |
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| 18:04.09 | SouLCarveR | yeah ... hmm doesnt seem to create an additional actor |
| 18:05.41 | zeta3 | aside from leaderboards is there another type of window i can use |
| 18:05.47 | SouLCarveR | dialogs |
| 18:05.55 | zeta3 | ahh thanks |
| 18:06.40 | JademusSreg | Soul, what are your events? I wanna see. =D |
| 18:07.58 | SouLCarveR | well since I couldnt get the actor to create I decided setting my timer to .2 seconds should work to test it as well if it actually destroys the actor... then I wont see my fireworks |
| 18:08.02 | zeta3 | aside from label, is there another dialog text item? |
| 18:08.37 | SouLCarveR | and no fireworks |
| 18:08.48 | SouLCarveR | labels are your text items zeta |
| 18:08.59 | SouLCarveR | you can set thier fonts and alignments and everything |
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| 18:09.38 | Stewix | ~seen bounty |
| 18:09.45 | purl | bounty <442d304d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.48.77> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 18h 29m 26s ago, saying: 'thought so'. |
| 18:09.54 | SouLCarveR | well thanx alot jade looks like I got it working |
| 18:10.27 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 18:13.49 | zeta3 | how do you change the font/alignment |
| 18:17.51 | Hati | pew |
| 18:18.10 | JademusSreg | SC2Style files. =D |
| 18:20.07 | JademusSreg | Sorry, you mean in dialog labels. |
| 18:21.02 | JademusSreg | Font is done via style fomats, which are in the SC2Style files. |
| 18:21.35 | SouLCarveR | create text variables and in the text variable editor set style and so on |
| 18:21.46 | SouLCarveR | then set the text lable.text = the text variables |
| 18:21.50 | SouLCarveR | or thats what i do anyways |
| 18:22.16 | JademusSreg | Yeah. Soul is correct. |
| 18:22.46 | JademusSreg | I'm refering to wanting to add your own styles, which define fonts and such. |
| 18:23.58 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 18:25.51 | zeta3 | ah |
| 18:34.58 | JManV|Work | where is my mind |
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| 18:38.55 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 18:39.04 | JManV|Work | song is stuck in my head |
| 18:39.05 | JademusSreg | You've misplaced it? |
| 18:39.39 | JManV|Work | know the pixies song "where is my mind"? it was at the end of fight club |
| 18:40.15 | JManV|Work | it was remade for "sucker punch". i think the new version is actually better. |
| 18:41.06 | JManV|Work | some of the vocals are by emily browning |
| 18:41.15 | JManV|Work | man i want to stick my dick in her |
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| 18:41.23 | zeta3 | ifi have a 1player map and i want to enable it for observers |
| 18:41.25 | zeta3 | how do i do it |
| 18:42.57 | JademusSreg | Sounds fun. |
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| 18:43.09 | JademusSreg | Not the movie, but everything else. |
| 18:43.15 | JManV|Work | yeah the movie sucks |
| 18:43.27 | JManV|Work | well, it's anything but groundbreaking |
| 18:43.33 | JManV|Work | but it's fun to watch |
| 18:43.52 | SouLCarveR | People dont like observers I wouldnt worry about observers untill you map is done |
| 18:44.19 | JManV|Work | it does not "blur the lines between reality and fantasy". in the movie, those lines are actually quite clearly defined, and i found that rather disappointing. |
| 18:44.53 | JManV|Work | they might as well say on the screen "cut to fantasy sequence" |
| 18:45.05 | JManV|Work | cuz it's that transparent |
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| 18:47.44 | zeta3 | how do some maps set up leaderboards |
| 18:47.52 | zeta3 | like high-scores |
| 18:48.15 | JManV|Work | rodrigo's are viral |
| 18:49.05 | zeta3 | oh |
| 18:49.16 | JManV|Work | if you mean persistant high scores |
| 18:49.30 | JManV|Work | if you just mean by-round, there's a whole set of leaderboard functions |
| 18:49.52 | zeta3 | well its a 1-player map :P |
| 18:49.58 | zeta3 | so i can't use rodrigo's implementation |
| 18:50.21 | JManV|Work | well, i'm not sure you can use any implementation |
| 18:50.30 | JManV|Work | the map has no way to access information like that |
| 18:50.39 | zeta3 | hm |
| 18:50.39 | zeta3 | ok |
| 18:50.48 | zeta3 | i thought there was a way for maps to communicate with the intarwebs |
| 18:51.03 | JManV|Work | definitely not |
| 18:51.19 | SouLCarveR | you have have a 3rd party program moniter players banks..... |
| 18:51.23 | SouLCarveR | but thats about it |
| 18:51.24 | JManV|Work | that would be glorious but potentially dangerous |
| 18:51.38 | JManV|Work | it would be hard to validate banks for a single player map |
| 18:52.07 | JManV|Work | nothing to compare it to just to make sure they didn't hack |
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| 18:59.59 | SoulTaker_ | looking to make all weapons stop when passing through guardian shield. |
| 19:00.20 | SoulTaker_ | im in guardian shield data |
| 19:00.40 | SoulTaker_ | i assume its modify amout field in combat? |
| 19:04.10 | JademusSreg | I judge maps on the attention to details, like handling spectators. |
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| 19:04.21 | SoulTaker_ | what?? |
| 19:04.50 | JademusSreg | I've broken so many maps by spectating, it is hilarious. |
| 19:05.03 | SoulTaker_ | thats great? |
| 19:05.27 | JademusSreg | Yes. Breaking stuff is fun. <3 |
| 19:05.49 | SoulTaker_ | ima go now.... |
| 19:06.47 | JademusSreg | Jman. |
| 19:09.19 | JManV|Work | yeah |
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| 19:09.56 | JademusSreg | Allow me to get my clutches on your map, so that I might implement my sinister galaxy scripts. |
| 19:10.02 | JademusSreg | Buwhahahaha |
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| 19:10.25 | Ashamed | hey i have a quick question. Who here has read Ender's Game ? |
| 19:10.28 | JManV|Work | i was actually thinking of doing that yesterday |
| 19:10.38 | JManV|Work | i wanted to make sure i had the most recent version, tho |
| 19:10.45 | JademusSreg | I'm familiar with Ender's Game. |
| 19:10.49 | JademusSreg | Why? |
| 19:11.48 | Ashamed | cuz i just want to see if every nerd |
| 19:11.49 | Ashamed | reads it |
| 19:11.50 | Ashamed | or not |
| 19:11.51 | JademusSreg | Jman, you want me to give you the scripts so you can implement them? |
| 19:12.20 | Ashamed | he is releasing another book soon right? |
| 19:12.40 | JManV|Work | either way works |
| 19:12.58 | JManV|Work | if you really feel like doing it yourself, i'm not gonna stop you, but there are some caveats |
| 19:12.59 | JademusSreg | Dunno, Ashamed. Not especially interested in his writing. |
| 19:13.15 | JademusSreg | Tell me the caveats so that I can decide. =D |
| 19:13.30 | Ashamed | jademusreg really you didnt like the book ? |
| 19:13.36 | JManV|Work | well, i need to be able to both stop and pause movement |
| 19:13.52 | JademusSreg | Not especially. I see how it appeals to children and such. |
| 19:13.55 | JManV|Work | i /think/, in the case of your script, that stop and pause are the same |
| 19:14.03 | JademusSreg | Jman, yeah, my script already supports that. |
| 19:14.23 | JademusSreg | I have a bool lock variable in the playerAsset struct array. |
| 19:14.39 | JManV|Work | basically, if the player chooses mouse movement, i need WASD movement to stop for that player |
| 19:14.47 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 19:14.59 | JademusSreg | It's as simple as setting that variable. |
| 19:15.05 | JManV|Work | and if they go into a building, i need it to pause during a transitionary period |
| 19:15.09 | JademusSreg | playerAssets[p].lock = true |
| 19:15.19 | JademusSreg | ; |
| 19:15.28 | JademusSreg | Same thing. |
| 19:15.28 | JManV|Work | in my old script, these were two different functions |
| 19:15.44 | JManV|Work | i think since you use bools for key state that their the same |
| 19:15.48 | JManV|Work | they're |
| 19:16.13 | JademusSreg | I use Input now for everything. =D |
| 19:16.23 | JademusSreg | Makes the script so beautiful. |
| 19:16.27 | JademusSreg | M<3 |
| 19:17.33 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I've written third person over the shoulder and top down perspective implmenetations of my script utilizing Input. |
| 19:17.35 | JManV|Work | looks like i use two different variables for the two states :( |
| 19:18.06 | JademusSreg | It would be simple to make one for old school cardinal movement. |
| 19:18.19 | JademusSreg | Wouldn't even involve camera yaw. =D |
| 19:18.32 | JManV|Work | yeah |
| 19:18.46 | JManV|Work | i have a whole host of complicated camera functions already :P |
| 19:19.15 | JManV|Work | but at any given point, the camera is fixed |
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| 19:19.38 | JademusSreg | No problem. I just won't fuck with cameras at all. =D |
| 19:19.44 | JademusSreg | Just movement. |
| 19:20.02 | JManV|Work | well, if you want to look i don't think i have to worry about you stealing my map |
| 19:20.05 | JademusSreg | And if you want to add anything else to it, it will be simple at a glance. |
| 19:20.12 | JademusSreg | You are correct. |
| 19:20.23 | JManV|Work | oh yeah, the other caveat is that it's a mod |
| 19:20.42 | JademusSreg | In that case, I will write the script in a poc map and let you do whatever. =D |
| 19:21.09 | JademusSreg | Fucking around with mods is painful, do not want. |
| 19:21.25 | JManV|Work | yes, it definitely can be |
| 19:21.55 | JManV|Work | necessary evil, however |
| 19:24.30 | JManV|Work | most of the time, i leave my mod open and modify the maps via mpqeditor :P |
| 19:24.38 | JManV|Work | whenever possible |
| 19:24.51 | JManV|Work | still a pain tho |
| 19:25.36 | Xan | Hmm, how is it possible to roll a unit (on its side), using the rocker actor and a behavior, permanently (So that when the behavior is called, the unit slowly tilts to its side, and then stays there) - and then have another behavior and actor to move it back to its original position? |
| 19:25.49 | JManV|Work | at any matter, just send it to me. i'm sure i can implement it in just a few minutes |
| 19:26.24 | JademusSreg | Alright. I might even have it done in a few minutes. I'm cutting away more than I am adding. =D |
| 19:26.37 | JademusSreg | Xan, that does osund possible, yes. |
| 19:26.49 | JademusSreg | Worth a try. |
| 19:27.12 | Xan | when I've been using the rocker actor it just repeats the animation and wobbles back and forward, it doesnt pause it on its side |
| 19:27.18 | zeta3 | hm i can't publish right now |
| 19:27.22 | zeta3 | can anyone else? |
| 19:28.20 | JademusSreg | Do you destroy the rocker actor half way through? |
| 19:28.42 | Xan | I tried that, and then it resets to the original posisition I think, doesnt stay tilted |
| 19:28.54 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 19:28.59 | Xan | if I dont destroy it, it just wobbles and doesnt stop |
| 19:28.59 | Xan | ^^ |
| 19:29.08 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I know the former. |
| 19:29.44 | JManV|Work | pretty sure i can publish |
| 19:29.49 | JademusSreg | I've tinkered with them, but they just didn't seem useful for setting an actor's rotation. |
| 19:29.49 | JManV|Work | what problem are you having? |
| 19:30.10 | zeta3 | "Connection to publishing service has been interrupted" |
| 19:30.38 | JManV|Work | successfully published |
| 19:30.42 | zeta3 | blah |
| 19:31.39 | zeta3 | wtf b.net |
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| 19:32.09 | zeta3 | are there any default settings i need to double check |
| 19:32.11 | zeta3 | before publishign |
| 19:32.11 | Hati | you can now officially write lol and omg in essays |
| 19:32.41 | JManV|Work | check your game variants? |
| 19:32.47 | JademusSreg | I don't give a shit what Oxford says. |
| 19:33.05 | zeta3 | do i need start locations |
| 19:33.08 | tordy | sup guys |
| 19:33.19 | JademusSreg | zeta, they are not strictly necessary. |
| 19:33.28 | JademusSreg | Depends on what you are doing. |
| 19:33.54 | zeta3 | i'm using defaul variants |
| 19:34.04 | JManV|Work | i just know that an invalidate game variant (or not present) is the leading cause of publishing failure |
| 19:34.17 | JManV|Work | but that will usually cause it to stall during publish |
| 19:34.22 | JManV|Work | not disconnect, necessarily |
| 19:34.33 | zeta3 | oh |
| 19:34.49 | zeta3 | ffs its a 1 player map |
| 19:34.50 | zeta3 | lol |
| 19:34.55 | zeta3 | gonna reboot |
| 19:35.01 | JManV|Work | have you ever published it before? |
| 19:35.01 | SouLCarveR | hey xan |
| 19:35.14 | SouLCarveR | you have to set it not to return to the original position |
| 19:35.15 | zeta3 | gonna see if i can publish my other maps |
| 19:35.37 | JManV|Work | if you've never published it before, you may need to actually set up a game variant |
| 19:36.18 | JManV|Work | senseless reboot |
| 19:36.47 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka |
| 19:37.03 | JManV|Work | i hate it when i do that |
| 19:37.12 | JManV|Work | i try to blame the problem on something |
| 19:37.14 | JManV|Work | else |
| 19:37.30 | JManV|Work | then i waste a bunch of time only to realize that the problem is my fault |
| 19:38.12 | JManV|Work | when in fact the problem is my fault 99% of the time, and i should have assumed that in the first place |
| 19:39.04 | JademusSreg | Yes, I always assume the problem is my fault when it's something I created. |
| 19:39.20 | JManV|Work | yeah |
| 19:39.24 | JManV|Work | cuz it almost always is |
| 19:39.26 | JademusSreg | Since assuming anything else impairs problem solving. |
| 19:39.31 | SoulTaker_ | i there a way to adjust a unit's chase distance? |
| 19:39.35 | SoulTaker_ | is* |
| 19:39.40 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 19:39.41 | JManV|Work | now, unfortunately the editor has a way of putting that assumption to doubt from time to time |
| 19:39.51 | SoulTaker_ | hiw? |
| 19:39.53 | SoulTaker_ | how* |
| 19:39.54 | JManV|Work | which is not good for a programmer |
| 19:40.08 | JManV|Work | because sometimes the problem genuinely is because the editor is retarded |
| 19:40.21 | JademusSreg | Abilities define chase distance, right? There's also something like that in Gameplay Constants data. |
| 19:40.23 | JManV|Work | "close the editor and reopen" should never be the steps to a bug fix |
| 19:40.29 | JademusSreg | Yes, Jman. |
| 19:40.37 | JManV|Work | that never works with visual studio |
| 19:40.46 | SoulTaker_ | it not a ability, its unit's chase distance? |
| 19:41.36 | JademusSreg | Depends on what you mean. Which is why, in light of the ambiguity, I provided two options. =D |
| 19:41.59 | SoulTaker_ | so gameplay costants? |
| 19:42.09 | JademusSreg | Yweah. |
| 19:43.02 | Xan | SouLCarveR: Hmm, how would I set that? |
| 19:44.59 | JademusSreg | By chase, I thought you could also have meant the follow range for casting an ability, including attacking, so I had to mention that follow ranges are defined in abilities. |
| 19:49.18 | SoulTaker_ | its not working i changed aquire leash radius to 500? |
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| 19:55.57 | SoulTaker_ | hay can some one tell em what strife radius does in movement section? |
| 19:56.21 | SoulTaker_ | im trying to make a unit have trouble turning and slide, as if on wax floors |
| 19:57.26 | JademusSreg | Don't hellions strafe? |
| 19:57.35 | SoulTaker_ | i duno |
| 19:57.42 | SoulTaker_ | i dont use hellions much |
| 19:58.00 | SoulTaker_ | but from ur contex |
| 19:58.03 | JademusSreg | Just pointing out an example. |
| 19:58.11 | SoulTaker_ | i asusme straife is what im looking for |
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| 20:02.01 | SoulTaker_ | i increase the strife to 100 and they still arnt sliding enough |
| 20:02.03 | SoulTaker_ | |:( |
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| 20:13.40 | JademusSreg | Jman. |
| 20:15.06 | Sixen | V |
| 20:15.29 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 20:17.06 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/SregWASDDemo.SC2Map |
| 20:24.32 | JademusSreg | Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyman. |
| 20:25.28 | Vestras | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/third-party-tools/20068-grape-sc2-programming-language/#p3 gogogo |
| 20:25.32 | Vestras | Especially you Jade |
| 20:25.49 | JademusSreg | clicks. |
| 20:26.10 | Vestras | Sweet |
| 20:26.58 | JademusSreg | Nice hat. |
| 20:27.18 | Vestras | Thx <3 |
| 20:28.29 | Demonette | =S |
| 20:28.49 | JademusSreg | I am an admirer of good hats. |
| 20:29.04 | Demonette | does someone know about a problem of setting different missiongoals for different players? |
| 20:29.14 | JademusSreg | Also, grape looks good, of course. |
| 20:29.30 | Vestras | C&C in thread Jade? <3 |
| 20:29.31 | JademusSreg | I'm curious to see how you will handle exceptions though. |
| 20:29.34 | Vestras | I heart free bumps |
| 20:29.35 | Vestras | So am I |
| 20:29.36 | Vestras | Lol |
| 20:29.39 | Demonette | mmmmmmmmmhhh |
| 20:30.34 | JademusSreg | I don't like bumping. Or posting. |
| 20:30.34 | Vestras | D: |
| 20:30.34 | Vestras | Me neither |
| 20:30.34 | Vestras | But I like C&C |
| 20:30.41 | JademusSreg | But it should be known that I publically promote your project. |
| 20:30.48 | Vestras | Sweet |
| 20:30.50 | Vestras | How? |
| 20:30.54 | JademusSreg | Here. |
| 20:30.59 | JademusSreg | In this channel. |
| 20:31.09 | Vestras | :o |
| 20:31.13 | Vestras | What do you say about it? |
| 20:31.24 | JademusSreg | Whenever the discussion turns in that direction, I often mention grape. |
| 20:31.31 | Vestras | Cool |
| 20:31.32 | Vestras | Thanks |
| 20:31.33 | Vestras | :D |
| 20:31.51 | JademusSreg | I say you are talented, that grape is slick, and that s3rius needs to hurry the fuck up. |
| 20:32.14 | Vestras | Well s3rius doesn't have time |
| 20:32.23 | JademusSreg | I know that now. =) |
| 20:32.28 | Vestras | Especially not because he has to look through all my code |
| 20:32.29 | Vestras | Lol |
| 20:35.16 | JManV|Work | yo |
| 20:37.56 | JademusSreg | Demo is done. |
| 20:37.59 | SoulTaker_ | JademusSreg |
| 20:38.11 | SoulTaker_ | how do i make weapons omni directional? |
| 20:38.22 | JademusSreg | All you need is to assign the player's avatar unit to playerAssets[p].avatar |
| 20:38.32 | JademusSreg | Like the phoenix weapon, Soul? |
| 20:39.08 | JademusSreg | And to disable controls, set playerAssets[p].lock = true |
| 20:39.17 | JManV|Work | i just need the stuff in the WASD folder? |
| 20:39.22 | SoulTaker_ | no |
| 20:39.25 | SoulTaker_ | the phenox weapons |
| 20:39.29 | SoulTaker_ | the unit has to turn |
| 20:39.32 | SoulTaker_ | and face the enemey |
| 20:39.39 | SoulTaker_ | it a turn |
| 20:39.39 | SoulTaker_ | altho its quick |
| 20:39.47 | SoulTaker_ | im talking more like diamond backs |
| 20:39.52 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 20:39.54 | JademusSreg | Turret. |
| 20:40.10 | SoulTaker_ | i was looking at turret but the turret matches the weapon? |
| 20:40.40 | SoulTaker_ | i wanted battlecruiser ATA lazers to be omni directional |
| 20:40.47 | SoulTaker_ | like the diamondback |
| 20:41.13 | JademusSreg | So give them to a turret, doesn't even need to be visible, no model needed if not desired. |
| 20:41.33 | SoulTaker_ | hmmm.. |
| 20:42.03 | SoulTaker_ | ima set ata to diamondback turret? |
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| 20:43.28 | SoulTaker_ | well it shoots from behind but only if a attk command is issued |
| 20:43.35 | SoulTaker_ | in which case the unit stops |
| 20:43.59 | SoulTaker_ | so |
| 20:44.04 | SoulTaker_ | allowed movement Moving |
| 20:44.06 | SoulTaker_ | on weapon |
| 20:45.11 | JManV|Work | hmmm |
| 20:45.27 | JManV|Work | i'm not exactly going to be able to refer to these variables using the GUI, am I? |
| 20:45.37 | JademusSreg | Yes you will. |
| 20:46.11 | JademusSreg | It's as simple as custom script, since every field in GU^I permits that option. |
| 20:46.37 | JManV|Work | variables aren't showing up |
| 20:46.58 | JManV|Work | i might just change it to refer to my pre-existing variables |
| 20:47.19 | JademusSreg | They don't show up, of course. |
| 20:47.44 | JManV|Work | oh yeah |
| 20:47.49 | JademusSreg | Just gotta use the custom script option for the fields that refer to them. |
| 20:47.57 | JManV|Work | well, that complicates things since playerAssets is an array |
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| 20:49.05 | JManV|Work | it looks like you only refer to the variables a couple of times anyways. i'd rather not have the same variable in two places anyways |
| 20:49.19 | JManV|Work | i already have the variable PlayerData[p].Hero, which is used everywhere |
| 20:52.43 | JademusSreg | Alright. Mak es sense. |
| 20:53.36 | JManV|Work | why does it feel the need to prefix structure member names? |
| 20:53.44 | JManV|Work | that seems wholly unneccesary |
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| 20:55.43 | JManV|Work | well it saved. i'll test it when i get home |
| 20:56.16 | JManV|Work | so that'll flag any keypress? |
| 20:56.35 | Rodrigo | so |
| 20:56.49 | JManV|Work | i should just hook onto that code for hotkeys and the like, i'm thinking |
| 20:57.02 | SouLCarveR | anybody know how the new idle command array works? |
| 20:57.09 | Rodrigo | people on Battle.net LA is complaining that my map u cant read anything (param value) |
| 20:57.51 | Rodrigo | is there any problem in regionalizing a map? |
| 20:58.31 | Rodrigo | I've never regionalized a map before |
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| 21:04.59 | Xan | yes you will need to localize your map |
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| 21:05.36 | Mexa | evenin' |
| 21:06.38 | Mexa | Hey vestras, how long will your server be upgrading? |
| 21:09.17 | JademusSreg | Jman, yes. |
| 21:09.38 | JademusSreg | Pardon my delay. I've been cooking dinner. |
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| 21:10.52 | JManV | no problem |
| 21:10.57 | JManV | i was driving home :P |
| 21:14.20 | JManV | hmmm |
| 21:14.25 | JManV | it's laggy as hell |
| 21:14.53 | JademusSreg | No wai |
| 21:14.56 | JademusSreg | D= |
| 21:15.11 | JManV | well, in windowed mode at least |
| 21:16.05 | JManV | i throttled it down to the refresh rate i was using and its better |
| 21:16.40 | JManV | but definitely not good |
| 21:17.42 | JManV | yeah that's paiful |
| 21:17.44 | JManV | painful |
| 21:17.47 | JManV | i dunno wth |
| 21:20.16 | JManV | also, he's only moving southwest |
| 21:20.23 | JManV | no matter what is pressed |
| 21:21.34 | grim001 | ... |
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| 21:24.49 | JManV | i'm baffled |
| 21:25.02 | JManV | i disabled my only two periodics and it's still lagging |
| 21:27.35 | JManV | it told me to lower my graphics settings |
| 21:29.44 | SouLCarveR | whats your unit doing? |
| 21:30.40 | Vestras | Mexa: until the new Moonlite is done, then I will upload the new website |
| 21:30.56 | Mexa | aw |
| 21:31.16 | JademusSreg | Jman, I think you did it wrong. |
| 21:31.21 | SouLCarveR | can anybody tell me why my game variant is forcing a computer into the lobby and im not allowed to remove it? |
| 21:31.23 | Mexa | Okay, how's it progressing Vestras? |
| 21:31.35 | JManV | what's there to do wrong? |
| 21:31.37 | Vestras | Pretty good |
| 21:31.44 | Vestras | Only need to implement grape support |
| 21:31.46 | Mexa | JMan, are you debuggin? |
| 21:31.47 | Vestras | THen we're good to go |
| 21:31.55 | Mexa | Alright, nice |
| 21:31.57 | JademusSreg | What did you change? |
| 21:31.58 | Kalekin | Please diasble debuggers if you get visual lag |
| 21:31.58 | Kalekin | :p |
| 21:32.05 | Mexa | yeah |
| 21:32.07 | JManV | i did |
| 21:32.09 | JManV | i had to |
| 21:32.23 | SouLCarveR | can anybody tell me why my game variant is forcing a computer into the lobby and im not allowed to remove it? |
| 21:32.25 | Vestras | anyway |
| 21:32.28 | Vestras | good nignht people |
| 21:32.30 | Mexa | The trigger debugger is a bitch on that... try mashing your keys when having keypress detection triggers :P |
| 21:32.40 | Mexa | nightynight |
| 21:32.48 | zeta3 | YAY THE MAP I MADE IS ON PAGE 32 |
| 21:33.12 | JManV | anyways, my old system never lagged with the debugger open |
| 21:33.41 | JademusSreg | What was changed? |
| 21:34.04 | Sixen | lmao zeta3 |
| 21:34.04 | SouLCarveR | game always laggs with debugger opne |
| 21:34.12 | Sixen | Is that what it is? |
| 21:34.14 | SouLCarveR | try running in non- minimized |
| 21:34.16 | SouLCarveR | can anybody tell me why my game variant is forcing a computer into the lobby and im not allowed to remove it? |
| 21:34.33 | SouLCarveR | sixen give me my answer |
| 21:34.38 | SouLCarveR | I know you can answer it |
| 21:34.42 | JManV | all i changed were the references to playerAsset[] |
| 21:34.49 | JademusSreg | Soul, have you examined the game attributes for the game variant? |
| 21:34.57 | SouLCarveR | yes i have |
| 21:35.06 | SouLCarveR | theres no computer players configured =( |
| 21:35.37 | JademusSreg | Jman, the problem you report doesn't make sense, though. |
| 21:35.57 | SoulTaker_ | how do i adjust the size of a unit on minimap? |
| 21:35.57 | Sixen | =o |
| 21:36.03 | JManV | ok, its smooth with debugging disabled entirely. just closing the window wasn't enough |
| 21:36.23 | SouLCarveR | closing the debugger window does nothing |
| 21:36.53 | SoulTaker_ | JademusSreg |
| 21:37.11 | JademusSreg | Two souls?! |
| 21:37.16 | SoulTaker_ | OMG... |
| 21:37.21 | JademusSreg | My mind boggles at how to address this. |
| 21:37.22 | JManV | ok, that's better |
| 21:37.24 | SouLCarveR | hes a copy cat |
| 21:37.30 | SouLCarveR | pfft |
| 21:37.38 | SoulTaker_ | u seggest we all share the same soul? |
| 21:37.55 | SoulTaker_ | and that 2 souls is a paradox? |
| 21:37.59 | JademusSreg | Taker, units have a defined minimap radius. |
| 21:38.10 | SoulTaker_ | were is it in data? |
| 21:38.14 | SoulTaker_ | under the unit specs? |
| 21:38.22 | JademusSreg | Unit -> UI -> Minimap Radius |
| 21:38.28 | SoulTaker_ | ty |
| 21:38.45 | JManV | the moving only SW was my own fault. I missed a reference to playerAsset... the one inside getPosition() |
| 21:39.22 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I run the debugger, on max graphic settings, and don't experience lag. Also, I disabled the time stamp and event reporter in the text output box. |
| 21:39.27 | JManV | and the lag went away completely with debugger closed, but i never had that before |
| 21:39.49 | JManV | yeah, it's the event reporter generating lag, i'm pretty sure |
| 21:40.03 | JManV | oh, it's firing on mouse move |
| 21:40.10 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 21:40.16 | JademusSreg | Configure the bools in Input. |
| 21:40.22 | JademusSreg | Disable the ones you don't need. |
| 21:40.25 | JManV | yeah, found that |
| 21:40.27 | JManV | just now :P |
| 21:40.30 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 21:40.56 | JademusSreg | Whatever you do, don't change the array size constants. |
| 21:40.58 | JademusSreg | Bad mojo. |
| 21:41.00 | JManV | that was it |
| 21:41.17 | JademusSreg | Except for max players, of course. |
| 21:41.25 | JManV | 16 is fine |
| 21:41.36 | JManV | logical max is 8, but just in case, ya know |
| 21:42.12 | JManV | alright, that's pretty cool |
| 21:42.18 | JManV | thanks jademus |
| 21:43.16 | JManV | time to bnet test |
| 21:44.01 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 21:44.11 | JademusSreg | I'm free. |
| 21:44.15 | JademusSreg | I'll be on in a minute. |
| 21:47.11 | RipperRoo | hey guys |
| 21:47.15 | RipperRoo | anyone once hat the problem |
| 21:47.38 | RipperRoo | that after morphing u are only moving the model.. but the selection circle still stands on the place where u morphed |
| 21:47.51 | RipperRoo | but after clicking on something else... u can click on the model |
| 21:48.20 | Mexa | JademusSreg what is this input library of what you are speaking about? |
| 21:49.35 | RipperRoo | someone got an idea? |
| 21:51.15 | Mexa | nvm, found it |
| 21:52.37 | JManV | and now you can move dialogonally |
| 21:52.44 | JManV | i hope you're happy! :P |
| 21:53.25 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 21:54.04 | JManV | i'm starting to wonder if i need the mouse option any further |
| 21:54.23 | JManV | now that the WASD is fairly smooth, the mouse movement seems awkward by comparison |
| 21:54.28 | RipperRoo | yeah noone here maybe can help ? >.< |
| 21:55.08 | JademusSreg | I'm going to take a bath and shave and so forth. |
| 21:55.27 | JademusSreg | So if the problem is still here when I get back, I shall vomit my insight upon it. |
| 21:55.28 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 21:55.33 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 21:56.43 | Mexa | Sorry Ripper :< |
| 21:56.57 | RipperRoo | hmm :( |
| 21:57.11 | RipperRoo | thanks jade o0 |
| 21:59.00 | RipperRoo | ok i got it |
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| 22:05.16 | JManV | so i dont understand the problem ripper |
| 22:05.31 | RipperRoo | i got it fixed |
| 22:05.42 | JManV | alright |
| 22:05.47 | RipperRoo | the problem is that i deleted the orign actor at morphing start |
| 22:05.54 | RipperRoo | and created the other actor at the end |
| 22:05.59 | RipperRoo | so meanwhile there is no acto |
| 22:06.04 | RipperRoo | that makes the problem |
| 22:06.20 | JManV | glad i could help :) |
| 22:08.41 | RipperRoo | lol yeah thanks :P |
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| 22:12.22 | Xan | Hello. Is it possible to make a unit roll permantently (e.g. make a ship fly on its side) using actors? I've tried with rocking actors, but it just rocks back and fourth. |
| 22:12.56 | RipperRoo | as far as i know waas there a thread about it on mapster but dunno if they find a solution |
| 22:13.50 | SoulTaker_ | JademusSreg |
| 22:14.02 | SoulTaker_ | i made a spawn behavior and attached it to a unit |
| 22:14.06 | SoulTaker_ | but its not spawning |
| 22:14.17 | SoulTaker_ | i just want it to spawn 1 unit every 5 seconds |
| 22:14.43 | SoulTaker_ | i edited the info array to do count 1 delay 5 unit mine |
| 22:14.47 | SoulTaker_ | then |
| 22:15.06 | SoulTaker_ | flag spawn = ignore morph |
| 22:15.12 | SoulTaker_ | and spawn limit =50 |
| 22:15.12 | RipperRoo | he isnt here atm |
| 22:15.14 | RipperRoo | .. |
| 22:15.33 | SoulTaker_ | ur kidding |
| 22:15.35 | SoulTaker_ | :( |
| 22:15.41 | SoulTaker_ | does anyone else know? |
| 22:19.46 | RipperRoo | no sorry |
| 22:19.57 | RipperRoo | but jade will be back soon maybe he can answere then |
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| 22:32.23 | Motive | Does anyone know what CatalogLinkReplace does? :P |
| 22:33.44 | RipperRoo | it replaces :S |
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| 22:34.32 | Queengambit | Hi everyone |
| 22:34.58 | RipperRoo | hi |
| 22:35.03 | SoulTaker_ | still need help |
| 22:35.04 | SoulTaker_ | :( |
| 22:36.02 | Queengambit | me too =( |
| 22:36.02 | Queengambit | its hard to find random pubs to join and test my map |
| 22:36.02 | Queengambit | before, you just type in a game name like, "OMG NEW MAP!!" |
| 22:37.10 | SoulTaker_ | hey |
| 22:37.19 | SoulTaker_ | u think u can help me with spawn behavior |
| 22:37.30 | SoulTaker_ | i just need it to spawn a unit every 5 seconds |
| 22:37.56 | SoulTaker_ | ive attached the behavior to the unit already |
| 22:37.57 | SoulTaker_ | XD |
| 22:38.16 | JademusSreg | Easy. |
| 22:38.20 | A1win | any ideas for dynamic environment? the only thing I can think of is activating something by destroying an object or walking on a pressure button, and the result opens a gate... but that's not very interesting, should have some other effects as well but no idea what |
| 22:38.37 | JademusSreg | For example, the zerg buildings have a behavior that spawns units on death. |
| 22:38.40 | SoulTaker_ | I |
| 22:38.43 | SoulTaker_ | YES |
| 22:38.46 | JademusSreg | Basically, do that, periodically. |
| 22:38.52 | SoulTaker_ | brb |
| 22:38.53 | SoulTaker_ | OMG |
| 22:38.58 | RipperRoo | pff ! ^^ |
| 22:39.11 | JademusSreg | If you want to limit it, then you'll need to figure out how the zerg spawn larva shit works, which I do not. =D |
| 22:39.45 | A1win | in my platformer map I had a spore crawler that shot any air units near it whenever the player attacked the crawler, that was pretty fun :P but might not work for this... |
| 22:39.48 | RipperRoo | btw jade because i didnt want you to vomit upon my problem i searched like hell and found the problem |
| 22:40.02 | RipperRoo | but i got another need bug... and i know how much u love neat bugs ! |
| 22:40.22 | RipperRoo | i dont get some deleted buttons out of the unit |
| 22:40.40 | JManV | well huh |
| 22:40.43 | RipperRoo | if i delete them which are actually (unknown) because i deleted unfortunately the ability first |
| 22:40.57 | RipperRoo | they just reappear |
| 22:40.59 | JManV | did you notice the glitches with the text writeout, jademus? |
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| 22:41.44 | prodiG | anyone know how i can change the color of a unit? (not a doodad, a unit) |
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| 22:41.50 | prodiG | need to make my debris look more icy :D |
| 22:42.05 | JManV | act tint |
| 22:42.16 | JManV | send an actor message to set tint |
| 22:42.33 | JademusSreg | A1, gates, traps, elevators, force fields, power switches, lights, destructables, explosives. |
| 22:42.36 | prodiG | o_o |
| 22:42.49 | prodiG | is tint a setting of actors in the data editor? :p |
| 22:43.03 | JManV | its in the data editor |
| 22:43.08 | JManV | under actor |
| 22:43.10 | JademusSreg | Yes, prod. |
| 22:43.13 | JManV | event - events+ |
| 22:43.27 | JManV | you need to add a new event, like unit created |
| 22:44.01 | grim001 | I'm thinking about what language I would like to write the compiler in. Since I'm practically starting from scratch now I may as well re-evaluate it. |
| 22:44.23 | JademusSreg | Also, you can make an icy version of a texture, and import it to the directory to overwrite an existing texture, and set the model's applied texture group to the correct reference. |
| 22:44.33 | RipperRoo | jade got an idea for my button problem ? o0 |
| 22:45.05 | zeta3 | FUCK YA 6 HOURS |
| 22:45.09 | prodiG | JademusSreg i don't have anywhyere near the pohotoshop skills for something liek that |
| 22:45.17 | prodiG | i just wanna modify the colors like it's a doodad haha |
| 22:45.31 | zeta3 | only 300 more til i get to page 3 rofl |
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| 22:46.58 | prodiG | what's the tint message called? |
| 22:47.02 | prodiG | i've got the event added |
| 22:47.07 | JManV | set tint |
| 22:47.39 | JManV | set tint color |
| 22:47.58 | JademusSreg | You have button problem? |
| 22:48.00 | prodiG | ty |
| 22:48.15 | grim001 | There are a dozen languages that would probably be a better for for a compiler, but I'd like to use something I'm somewhat familiar with. |
| 22:48.25 | JManV | who? |
| 22:48.31 | grim001 | I don't really want to use C++ though. |
| 22:48.32 | RipperRoo | jades yes lol i just described it |
| 22:48.38 | JademusSreg | grim, want multiplatform? |
| 22:48.41 | Motive | I started on a very brief extension of a prattparser for galaxy |
| 22:48.44 | Motive | in java, grim |
| 22:48.51 | Motive | it's shit atm but I thought the design was nice and simple |
| 22:48.53 | grim001 | I don't know how many people will even care whether it's multiplatform or not. |
| 22:49.08 | Motive | and you get multiplatform for free |
| 22:49.09 | JademusSreg | Roo, let me see that data? |
| 22:49.23 | JademusSreg | Motive, yeah, that's what I was thinking. |
| 22:49.25 | JManV | you're talking about command card buttons |
| 22:49.44 | Motive | My parser's a bit iffy but I have it parsing most expressions already and a few statements like if() |
| 22:49.55 | Motive | If someone who actually knew what they were doing tried it, I'm sure they could do much better |
| 22:49.56 | RipperRoo | oh didnt saw u were answere here |
| 22:49.56 | Motive | Lol |
| 22:50.00 | JademusSreg | Unless you don't care about multiplatform, in which case I would suggest C# or something similarly swift. |
| 22:50.06 | RipperRoo | want me to send the map to you or what do u mean? |
| 22:50.12 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 22:50.26 | JManV | what are you talking about exactly? |
| 22:50.48 | JManV | you delete the ability and the button goes away? |
| 22:50.54 | grim001 | so my options for things I am familiar with and wouldn't hate to use are: Java, Python, Lua, C# and AutoIt. |
| 22:50.55 | JManV | and then you give the ability back/ |
| 22:51.01 | RipperRoo | i did send something to you last time didnt i ? did i on irc or how? |
| 22:51.13 | Motive | Definitely Java, imo. |
| 22:51.26 | Motive | A bit more complicated than Python/LUA but I think it pays off in the end for the increase in coding time, for a project like this |
| 22:51.32 | JademusSreg | Roo, you did on irc. |
| 22:51.42 | RipperRoo | ok query |
| 22:52.12 | SoulTaker_ | JademusSreg i couldnt figure it out so i attached spawn larve behavior to the unit and it doesnt even spawn the larve? |
| 22:52.18 | prodiG | so my event isn't actually doing anything o_o |
| 22:52.30 | JademusSreg | Soul, do you want it to have a spawn limit? |
| 22:52.39 | Deaod | well, grim, if you want to use Java, i can share what ive already done with you |
| 22:52.41 | JademusSreg | prod, is the event ActorCreation? |
| 22:52.44 | prodiG | send -> unitcreation.destructibledebris6x |
| 22:53.02 | SoulTaker_ | so atm no |
| 22:53.03 | SoulTaker_ | i think i can mannage to make the requirement myself |
| 22:53.21 | grim001 | Deaod, I wouldn't mind looking at your code as a reference |
| 22:53.29 | Motive | Deaod: mind sending me a look at it, too? |
| 22:53.33 | Motive | I'm trying to learn this stuff as well :) |
| 22:53.33 | grim001 | I guess Java is probably what I'll have to use |
| 22:53.47 | JademusSreg | Well, Taker, if you don't ever need a limit, then I suggest using the behavior to periodically create the unit. |
| 22:54.01 | JademusSreg | I do this with Tiberium self-replication, for example. |
| 22:54.38 | SoulTaker_ | what kind of behavior is it? |
| 22:54.40 | SouLCarveR | Jade are you working on a C&C mod? |
| 22:54.45 | SoulTaker_ | what new behavior do i add? |
| 22:55.03 | RipperRoo | i explainted the problem in detail in query to you jade |
| 22:55.50 | JademusSreg | Carver, no, I just get aroused by tiberium. |
| 22:56.02 | JademusSreg | It's the coolest thing to come out of such a mediocre series of games. |
| 22:56.25 | SoulTaker_ | XD |
| 22:56.38 | SoulTaker_ | XD |
| 22:56.43 | Motive | CatalogLinkReplace |
| 22:56.44 | Motive | is |
| 22:56.45 | Motive | the |
| 22:56.46 | Motive | COOLEST |
| 22:56.46 | Motive | THING |
| 22:56.47 | Motive | EVER |
| 22:56.47 | Motive | LOL |
| 22:56.59 | RipperRoo | cooler then rines ? |
| 22:57.01 | Motive | Yes |
| 22:57.07 | RipperRoo | cooler then banelings? |
| 22:57.10 | Motive | well |
| 22:57.11 | Motive | yes |
| 22:57.17 | Motive | because I can make baneling's effect detonate turn into |
| 22:57.18 | Motive | HeroNukeDetonate |
| 22:57.19 | Motive | which is |
| 22:57.19 | TheAlmaity | Cooler than thors? |
| 22:57.19 | Motive | WAY |
| 22:57.20 | Motive | cooler |
| 22:57.21 | Motive | :) |
| 22:57.26 | JademusSreg | Taker, I'm assisting Roo. |
| 22:57.35 | JademusSreg | Then I'll explain what I did. |
| 22:57.36 | SoulTaker_ | im waitng |
| 22:57.36 | SoulTaker_ | XD |
| 22:57.54 | SoulTaker_ | i like red alert 1 the best |
| 22:58.08 | SoulTaker_ | tiberium series is lame |
| 22:58.14 | SoulTaker_ | not enough resources |
| 22:58.28 | JademusSreg | I like Tiberian Sun and Tiberium Wars, but certainly not for the gameplay. I also liked Udo Kier as Yuri. |
| 22:58.35 | RipperRoo | tiberian sun was best |
| 22:58.40 | RipperRoo | i didnt like the addon firestorm |
| 22:58.45 | RipperRoo | but the normal game was cool |
| 22:58.53 | JademusSreg | Anyway, what's not to love about a self-replicating dynamic proton lattice? |
| 22:59.12 | SoulTaker_ | lol |
| 22:59.25 | JManV | the part where it kills you :P |
| 22:59.47 | Deaod | http://deaod.de/GALAXYParser.7z |
| 23:00.04 | Deaod | basically no documentation |
| 23:00.43 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 23:00.43 | Motive | much obliged, Deaod <3 |
| 23:01.19 | Deaod | this is very much a WIP |
| 23:03.00 | JademusSreg | Alright, Taker. |
| 23:04.03 | JademusSreg | Get your buff behavior. |
| 23:04.10 | A1win | JademusSreg, you remember my temporary shields ability? got an idea for the environment: a stationary shield battery that works so that when you activate your shields near it, it boosts their duration by a bit, and each player can use it once during the first 30 sec or so when it's first activated |
| 23:05.14 | JademusSreg | Set the period to how often you want the unit spawned. Set the effect periodic to a Create Unit class of effect. Set spawn range to the limit on how far the unit can appear. Set spawn unit to the unit you want spawned. |
| 23:06.00 | JademusSreg | Sounds neat, A1. I <3 tactical environments. |
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| 23:06.33 | A1win | maybe some other kinds of power ups as well |
| 23:06.50 | Fisker | This Zod came from a Krypton in a pocket universe created by the Time Trapper. |
| 23:10.20 | A1win | :o per player power ups: the game periodically and semi-randomly spawns a power up for each player, and the power up has special graphics for the player whose power up it is, and to others it looks more like just a part of the environment but so that they still know it's someone else's power up (so they don't get confused why someone runs to a corner instead of forward in the mission) |
| 23:11.53 | A1win | but picking them up should require more than just running past, either by placing them away from the main path, or something else... |
| 23:12.47 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 23:13.53 | A1win | mmm pew pew might work |
| 23:15.08 | A1win | is there a way to spawn an actor only visible for one player? |
| 23:15.50 | A1win | ...and so that it's somehow targetable, preferably an unit actor but I've noticed in the past that units can't be easily made to work like that |
| 23:16.06 | A1win | only by faking it with cloak and unshared vision |
| 23:16.51 | A1win | but I guess I could do that as well, since that player should be the only one who can target it anyway |
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| 23:17.35 | A1win | if player A and B have shared vision, and then I use the "share unit vision" to show player C's unit for player A, can B see it? |
| 23:17.36 | JademusSreg | Make it belong to the player, give it buried unit flag if you want the player to be able to view it. Actor could also adjust visibility. |
| 23:17.41 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 23:17.55 | JademusSreg | If you have that situation, it wouldn eed to be done via actor. |
| 23:18.12 | A1win | mh |
| 23:18.18 | JademusSreg | However, all of that is counter intuitive. I think people should be ablwe to see it. |
| 23:18.44 | A1win | the idea was that other players can see something else there, like a "less attractive" version of it |
| 23:19.01 | A1win | ...maybe just spawn some special effect on that unit for the one whose it is |
| 23:19.04 | JademusSreg | And if it belongs to the player, the player's name tooltip would appear on cursor hover, indicating to who it belongs. |
| 23:19.45 | A1win | mm and if I spawn it for that player, I can filter weapon effects to allow damaging self but not allies |
| 23:20.12 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 23:20.44 | A1win | any way to configure smart click to attack your own unit? :P |
| 23:20.58 | JademusSreg | I'm sure their is. |
| 23:21.04 | JademusSreg | Augment, for example. |
| 23:21.18 | JademusSreg | Augment class sounds perfect for that. |
| 23:21.21 | A1win | though it'd be a bit counter-intuitive to see a green target cursor on a target you're supposed to attack |
| 23:21.24 | JademusSreg | Or modifying attack. |
| 23:21.44 | A1win | or can that also be modified? |
| 23:22.07 | Demonette | Hi stuffies |
| 23:22.16 | JademusSreg | Attack is just another ability. =D |
| 23:22.33 | Demonette | did someone already played around with setting mission goals for 2 different players? |
| 23:25.53 | A1win | bed time... meditate on this, I will |
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| 23:29.47 | Demonette | lor |
| 23:32.47 | grim001 | yay I have Hello Worlded in java. |
| 23:33.39 | JademusSreg | Sexy. |
| 23:34.21 | zeta3 | woohoo 11 hours played on my map |
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| 23:37.52 | Demonette | mh |
| 23:39.26 | Demonette | so no nonidling person here worked with mission goals? |
| 23:39.47 | JademusSreg | I have not worked with mission goals evah. |
| 23:39.50 | JademusSreg | Sorry. |
| 23:41.05 | Demonette | I see =( |
| 23:41.18 | Demonette | cause they really seem kind a broken to me |
| 23:41.34 | JademusSreg | I've just never had need to use them. |
| 23:41.39 | JademusSreg | What seems to be the problem? |
| 23:44.13 | Demonette | the problem seem like i can only set or unset them for all players... i can't show them only to player 1 for example |
| 23:47.01 | JademusSreg | What is the name of the action? |
| 23:51.13 | Demonette | Uhm |
| 23:51.44 | Demonette | wait a mom |
| 23:52.12 | JManV | how long is a mom? |
| 23:52.14 | Demonette | ObjectiveCreate |
| 23:52.22 | Demonette | ObjectiveShow |
| 23:52.28 | JManV | if its yo mom, its mo wide than long |
| 23:53.11 | JManV | *highhat crash* |
| 23:53.16 | Demonette | I created the objective then hide it for everyone via objectiveShow and then made it visible for player 1 with objectiveShow |
| 23:55.59 | Demonette | Mmmhhhh |
| 23:56.37 | JademusSreg | native void ObjectiveSetPlayerGroup (int inObjective, playergroup inPlayers); |
| 23:58.17 | Demonette | and this makes it work right? |
| 23:58.44 | Demonette | why is there a show for a playergroup =/ |
| 23:59.41 | JademusSreg | To show it to multiple players simultaneously? |
| 23:59.58 | JademusSreg | Since objectives are also set for players simultaneously. |
