| 00:00.05 | Bibendus | right now that i must record the new vid :( |
| 00:00.08 | P_R_Deltoid | Position of Actor would probably work. |
| 00:00.17 | A1win | uh this item list is huge even with 30 items in it... icons would fit into smaller space but dunno, would need to setup an icon for every item then |
| 00:00.25 | Bounty | anyone? |
| 00:01.15 | zeta3 | position of actor? |
| 00:01.40 | P_R_Deltoid | explain why you can't do it manually. |
| 00:02.10 | Bounty | so... nobody knows how to hide the help bar on the loading screen? |
| 00:02.27 | Bibendus | oh fuc |
| 00:02.30 | Bibendus | its the distance lol |
| 00:02.58 | zeta3 | well I'm doing it via a trigger |
| 00:03.04 | zeta3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:03.16 | zeta3 | rather I want it to be (Position of (Specific Doodad)) |
| 00:03.19 | Bounty | fuck it ill just leave it in |
| 00:03.32 | P_R_Deltoid | Make regions and just do that a few times ? |
| 00:03.33 | P_R_Deltoid | :| |
| 00:03.36 | P_R_Deltoid | Make them manually |
| 00:03.37 | zeta3 | oh |
| 00:03.44 | P_R_Deltoid | so they are created at runtime instead of by unit position |
| 00:03.56 | zeta3 | well my map has like 30 bridge doodads lol |
| 00:04.05 | P_R_Deltoid | Hmmm |
| 00:04.29 | A1win | doodads are actors so maybe look at some actor triggers |
| 00:04.51 | zeta3 | hm |
| 00:05.39 | zeta3 | no dice |
| 00:06.01 | JademusSreg | No dice for what? |
| 00:06.41 | zeta3 | (Region((Position of (Triggering unit)), 1.0)) but you can't do it for doodads |
| 00:06.48 | zeta3 | Positions of (Doodad) |
| 00:06.54 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 00:07.35 | Bibendus | damn |
| 00:07.38 | zeta3 | like the regions where my doodad for bridges reside in need to be set to "visible" in order to show up on minimap |
| 00:07.40 | Bibendus | why if i zoom out the cam too much |
| 00:07.45 | Bibendus | i stop hearing sounds :| |
| 00:07.47 | zeta3 | er.. set to "explored" |
| 00:07.47 | Bibendus | thats stupid |
| 00:08.06 | P_R_Deltoid | they are emitters, Bibendus |
| 00:08.06 | P_R_Deltoid | vOv |
| 00:08.14 | Bibendus | should i then change ALL sounds distance? |
| 00:08.26 | P_R_Deltoid | If you are going to have a super far out camera, it seems that way |
| 00:08.39 | Bibendus | thats insane! |
| 00:08.42 | Bibendus | and still not soo far |
| 00:10.16 | Bibendus | and now i have an actor sound |
| 00:10.18 | Bibendus | that i dont hear |
| 00:10.20 | Bibendus | even if i go near :| |
| 00:10.22 | zeta3 | i wish i could do static_casts and convert fucking doodads to units |
| 00:10.51 | Shawn|Rawr | You all make me sad. |
| 00:10.53 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 00:11.00 | Bibendus | u wont be sad |
| 00:11.04 | Bibendus | after the new vid is complete! |
| 00:11.31 | Shawn|Rawr | cant watch. gotta work on scu |
| 00:11.35 | Shawn|Rawr | ^__^ |
| 00:11.48 | Bibendus | didnt say u need to watch it now lol |
| 00:11.56 | Shawn|Rawr | Right, because i cant |
| 00:11.57 | Bibendus | even if u should! |
| 00:11.58 | zeta3 | wait question |
| 00:12.06 | zeta3 | so a map has "explored" "unexplored" and "black mask" |
| 00:12.10 | zeta3 | and "visible" |
| 00:12.11 | zeta3 | right? |
| 00:12.16 | P_R_Deltoid | just now opened this file, JademusSreg |
| 00:12.18 | P_R_Deltoid | Nice work |
| 00:12.33 | Bibendus | btw i need to fix this sound |
| 00:12.53 | CryptRat | What's a "Hotkey Alias"? |
| 00:13.01 | CryptRat | The editor gives no description. x_x |
| 00:13.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster onetwo (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105) |
| 00:13.29 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ |
| 00:13.35 | onetwo | hey Vexal you there |
| 00:13.43 | MrOp | hay two |
| 00:13.51 | onetwo | hi |
| 00:13.56 | onetwo | or anyone that has a bank system in production |
| 00:13.59 | JademusSreg | PR, just thought it would be a funny idea. |
| 00:13.59 | *** join/#sc2mapster avogatro (~avogatro@nat-wh-hadi.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) |
| 00:14.14 | P_R_Deltoid | you and your custom script |
| 00:14.17 | Vexal | hey |
| 00:14.19 | Vexal | what's up |
| 00:14.21 | onetwo | okay nice |
| 00:14.28 | onetwo | do you ever have errors with your bank? |
| 00:14.36 | onetwo | of the thousands of people that play my map on EU and US |
| 00:14.39 | onetwo | i get 2-3 emails a day |
| 00:14.42 | onetwo | about broken save |
| 00:14.45 | onetwo | eg kills reset to 0 |
| 00:14.52 | Shawn|Rawr | thats because they messed with it |
| 00:14.52 | Vexal | they probably switch computers |
| 00:14.54 | Shawn|Rawr | those jerks |
| 00:14.57 | onetwo | and 2 of them today said it happened after a power outage |
| 00:15.09 | onetwo | na Shawn theyre pretty innocent |
| 00:15.10 | Vexal | did they switch computers? |
| 00:15.11 | MrOp | wow |
| 00:15.13 | onetwo | giving me their char code and stuff |
| 00:15.16 | Vexal | 9 times out of 10 it's that |
| 00:15.23 | onetwo | hmm |
| 00:15.29 | onetwo | i was worried its my load-code |
| 00:15.34 | onetwo | but today 2 from power outage |
| 00:15.35 | onetwo | i wonder if its blizz |
| 00:15.38 | onetwo | not syncing it right |
| 00:15.50 | Vexal | they probably switched to their laptop |
| 00:15.53 | onetwo | hmm |
| 00:15.53 | Vexal | when their power went out |
| 00:15.54 | onetwo | if so, fuck |
| 00:15.56 | Shawn|Rawr | tell them to pastebin their bank |
| 00:15.57 | onetwo | i gave em free save files |
| 00:15.58 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:16.00 | Vexal | since the desktop has to be plugged in |
| 00:16.14 | onetwo | either way vexal, that's still really dumb |
| 00:16.17 | onetwo | we need cloud banks |
| 00:16.17 | onetwo | lol |
| 00:16.18 | Vexal | what is |
| 00:16.22 | Clord | I tell you this... there is tons of even TCG players who not realize that their save is local |
| 00:16.22 | onetwo | banks local |
| 00:16.23 | Vexal | maybe |
| 00:16.25 | Clord | and not server side |
| 00:16.27 | onetwo | not even account based |
| 00:16.29 | grim001 | ok... next stop, making the "public" prefix work. |
| 00:16.41 | onetwo | i even had a guy ask for a bank of 20k kills |
| 00:16.44 | onetwo | thats how innocent people are |
| 00:16.44 | Bibendus | change your bank account! |
| 00:16.47 | onetwo | not evne lieing |
| 00:16.48 | onetwo | lieing* |
| 00:16.49 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 00:16.59 | Vexal | people've been editing their bank kill count ever since i put that you get a reward for getting 2 million kills |
| 00:17.00 | Clord | I get random whine time to time about how they lost their exp.. but it ends up being that they switch their computer |
| 00:17.20 | zeta3 | what does snapshot mean for actor visibility |
| 00:17.36 | Shawn|Rawr | means you can see it through the fog |
| 00:17.41 | Shawn|Rawr | iirc |
| 00:17.46 | MrOp | later all |
| 00:18.12 | zeta3 | even when i set it to visible its not visible |
| 00:18.59 | Shawn|Rawr | is it in black mask or fog? |
| 00:19.18 | zeta3 | fog i think, i dont have black mask turned on |
| 00:19.35 | Shawn|Rawr | hmm. weird |
| 00:19.39 | Shawn|Rawr | brb |
| 00:20.34 | A1win | wooot just realized that since the players can't add stuff to their mech during a mission and that they can't visit the base and return to the same mission, I can make things like single-use nukes that they first need to equip as an addon and then use on the mission: takes up one addon slot during that mission, and can't be spammed since they aren't launched from inventory |
| 00:21.51 | onetwo | wha |
| 00:21.53 | A1win | gives those powerful one-use items some extra tactical depth |
| 00:22.36 | depthsofchaos | stop giving depth to your maps will ya |
| 00:22.40 | depthsofchaos | its copyrighted by me |
| 00:23.15 | A1win | this map is gonna be awesome \o/ |
| 00:23.19 | JademusSreg | Reminds me of the heaviest weapons in armored core. |
| 00:23.30 | JademusSreg | Little ammo, tremendous damage output. |
| 00:24.03 | depthsofchaos | loading text as string from bank didnt work :o |
| 00:24.15 | depthsofchaos | ill make players change it to string by hand xD |
| 00:24.18 | JademusSreg | too bad. |
| 00:24.19 | depthsofchaos | that should work |
| 00:24.27 | depthsofchaos | if its not changed kick them :p |
| 00:24.40 | A1win | how do you check if they typed the right one :P |
| 00:24.45 | JademusSreg | That is funny, but how then do you preserve the string? |
| 00:24.56 | JademusSreg | A1, dialog edit box. |
| 00:24.59 | depthsofchaos | the string should by encrypted |
| 00:25.04 | Demo | I don't understand this |
| 00:25.20 | JademusSreg | I use the edit box in Id. |
| 00:25.31 | A1win | but you can't compare strings with texts |
| 00:25.35 | depthsofchaos | oh damn i cant get subtext of text -.- |
| 00:25.38 | A1win | so if you prompt them to "type this text as string" |
| 00:25.40 | JademusSreg | I know. |
| 00:25.47 | A1win | how do you check that they typed the right string |
| 00:25.48 | JademusSreg | It's hilarious. |
| 00:26.15 | JademusSreg | If we could push out bits from a string, this would be so easy. |
| 00:26.16 | depthsofchaos | i thought id encrypt it by rearranging their name in a string :p |
| 00:26.38 | depthsofchaos | text* |
| 00:26.39 | A1win | heh |
| 00:26.42 | Demo | I have 4 different triggers with different events, Unit Dies, Unit is Removed, Unit takes Damage, and another Unit Dies. The triggers are running even if the conditions are failed, and the trigger debugger is even saying that they failed. But I STILL get error messages in game about it |
| 00:26.44 | depthsofchaos | but cant get subtext either |
| 00:27.11 | zeta3 | i made a custom fog of war data, how can i get the map editor to use it |
| 00:27.21 | zeta3 | via a trigger that is |
| 00:27.22 | A1win | if you could get subtext, you could just make a case of each character as text -> character of string |
| 00:27.49 | Demo | http://pastebin.com/3gpSyWvH |
| 00:27.52 | Demo | any ideas? |
| 00:28.00 | depthsofchaos | ye but you cant compare text |
| 00:28.16 | A1win | oh |
| 00:28.17 | depthsofchaos | id just add in random text and arrangement next to their names |
| 00:28.35 | depthsofchaos | like alwin = fsdfaaliwn |
| 00:28.40 | depthsofchaos | xD |
| 00:28.51 | JademusSreg | Here's a neat question. |
| 00:29.01 | JademusSreg | Can anyone determine if a text is empty? |
| 00:29.21 | depthsofchaos | hmm ill try that |
| 00:29.48 | JademusSreg | If you can determine if a text is empty (comparison to null or an empty string doesn't work), then I have an idea that will work. |
| 00:30.33 | JManV | so i was unable to reproduce that bug from earlier |
| 00:30.33 | depthsofchaos | no text length either :/ |
| 00:30.43 | depthsofchaos | whats your idea |
| 00:30.48 | JManV | only thing i really did different was i did it as two steps instead of one |
| 00:31.39 | A1win | JademusSreg, there's a Text Has Been Set condition? |
| 00:31.40 | JademusSreg | native text TextReplaceWord (text t, text word, text replace, int maxCount, bool caseSens); |
| 00:32.26 | depthsofchaos | whoa that could fix it! |
| 00:32.35 | grim001 | ugh brain feels dead at the moment |
| 00:32.42 | depthsofchaos | why do we need to check for empty? |
| 00:32.46 | grim001 | I need a list of all of the SC2 native types |
| 00:32.56 | A1win | but that actually is just a comparison to null |
| 00:33.04 | A1win | so it's not empty, it's null <.< |
| 00:33.33 | JademusSreg | You get a player's name, replace word with a blank, then check if the the text is blank. |
| 00:34.05 | A1win | the only thing you can do for a text is check if it's null or not |
| 00:34.08 | depthsofchaos | ah yes nice |
| 00:34.17 | depthsofchaos | what if we just replace characters in his name |
| 00:34.22 | JademusSreg | I know, A1, which is useless. |
| 00:34.24 | depthsofchaos | and remember which we replaced |
| 00:34.32 | depthsofchaos | and we encode the sequince |
| 00:34.49 | JademusSreg | Won't work. |
| 00:34.55 | Bounty | Jade |
| 00:34.57 | Bounty | its ready :) |
| 00:35.05 | A1win | umm so what does textreplaceword actually do? |
| 00:35.11 | JademusSreg | grim, the natives are scattered amonst natives.galaxy and AI stuff. |
| 00:35.33 | JademusSreg | In text t, replaces text word with text replace. |
| 00:35.59 | A1win | ah right... |
| 00:36.11 | grim001 | yes, I'm far too braindead to look through it right now, I know I've seen the complete list somewhere before. |
| 00:36.20 | A1win | but it's not really useful like that I suppose :P |
| 00:36.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster Shawn|Rawr (~chatzilla@ip70-189-159-47.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 00:36.38 | Bounty | so, who wants to be in the launch video for my racing map =P |
| 00:36.55 | zeta3 | arg this is driving me crazy |
| 00:36.58 | JademusSreg | So you could have a base text that reads "Congratulations, dickhead, you've rescued the princess!" and replace dickhead with the player's name text. |
| 00:37.05 | zeta3 | minimap icon only shows up AFTER actor has been explored |
| 00:37.11 | JademusSreg | I'm interested, Bounty. |
| 00:37.25 | Bounty | anyone else interested? |
| 00:37.27 | Bounty | u can be famous! |
| 00:37.29 | depthsofchaos | are you eu? |
| 00:37.35 | depthsofchaos | im already famous |
| 00:37.39 | Bounty | no im not eu |
| 00:37.43 | Bounty | but honestly, who is EU? |
| 00:37.44 | depthsofchaos | too bad |
| 00:37.45 | Bounty | =P |
| 00:37.50 | depthsofchaos | all cool guys |
| 00:37.59 | JademusSreg | Bounty never runs out of shovels! |
| 00:38.48 | JademusSreg | Let me know when you've got a sizable team rounded uyp. |
| 00:39.03 | A1win | sleep time... and more of the mission system tomorrow I suppose |
| 00:40.03 | Bounty | working on it now Jade |
| 00:40.18 | A1win | I hope I won't get into trouble when I start adding content since a lot of the stuff will be based on triggers, like what the items do, and the missions etc. |
| 00:40.28 | Bounty | You here Sixen? I know you want in |
| 00:40.47 | JademusSreg | A1, you can always refactor later. =) |
| 00:40.51 | A1win | true ;p |
| 00:40.56 | depthsofchaos | would we get an error if we tryed to store an empty text in the bank? |
| 00:40.59 | depthsofchaos | hmmm |
| 00:41.23 | A1win | why would you? |
| 00:41.40 | depthsofchaos | to see if its key exists |
| 00:41.50 | depthsofchaos | and check if the text is empty like that :p |
| 00:42.19 | A1win | I mean why would you get an error, it shouldn't be illegal to store an empty text.. just like you can store an empty string |
| 00:42.41 | A1win | you *can* check if text is null, but you can't check if it's empty |
| 00:42.46 | A1win | null != "" |
| 00:42.51 | depthsofchaos | i know |
| 00:43.08 | depthsofchaos | well no better idea |
| 00:43.17 | A1win | I guess they have thought this through very carefully |
| 00:43.26 | A1win | probably the reason why they even have texts and strings separately |
| 00:43.31 | depthsofchaos | what if a text is biger than the bank size? |
| 00:43.37 | depthsofchaos | wouldnt that give error |
| 00:43.47 | JManV | well, also text can have formatting |
| 00:43.53 | JManV | inline images, etc |
| 00:43.56 | A1win | which is just string tags |
| 00:44.06 | JManV | oh i know |
| 00:44.08 | depthsofchaos | we make a text really huge, adding 1 character to the text makes the bank out of limit |
| 00:44.21 | depthsofchaos | and not store the text |
| 00:44.29 | Bounty | Jademussreg |
| 00:44.31 | Bounty | log on |
| 00:44.34 | Bounty | got peeps :) |
| 00:45.08 | A1win | depthsofchaos, or fill the bank with something else and then try to add the text ;p |
| 00:45.11 | zeta3 | is there a way to add all points to an array of points easiyl |
| 00:45.15 | A1win | so that only an empty one fits in |
| 00:45.20 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 00:45.23 | depthsofchaos | yes |
| 00:45.33 | depthsofchaos | i just dont know the bank limit |
| 00:45.38 | A1win | I have no idea what happens when you try to add too much stuff into bank |
| 00:45.49 | depthsofchaos | well it shouldnt store it i guess |
| 00:45.52 | JManV | zeta3: use a function to set them |
| 00:45.57 | depthsofchaos | which would help us |
| 00:46.12 | A1win | well make a script that adds one character at a time? |
| 00:46.15 | depthsofchaos | but this only works with long text because of the xml tags |
| 00:46.41 | zeta3 | or a way to "Add all points within a region" |
| 00:46.45 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 00:46.45 | depthsofchaos | yes ill try this |
| 00:46.55 | Bibendus|AFK | goin to record |
| 00:46.55 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 30 minutes 10 seconds |
| 00:46.56 | depthsofchaos | but offline banks can be any size i think:/ |
| 00:46.56 | Bibendus | cya later |
| 00:46.58 | depthsofchaos | damn it |
| 00:47.17 | A1win | zeta3, use units instead of points and remove the units after you've set them ;p |
| 00:47.27 | JManV | here's an example of how i set an array of records: http://pastebin.com/Qxna1tgL |
| 00:47.36 | zeta3 | rofl |
| 00:48.00 | Bounty | SIXEN |
| 00:48.02 | Bounty | >< |
| 00:48.10 | JManV | and then i call it: http://pastebin.com/P82L8rYH |
| 00:48.15 | zeta3 | i wish there was a "for each point in region" do X |
| 00:48.33 | depthsofchaos | lol |
| 00:48.42 | depthsofchaos | infinite points?:p |
| 00:48.49 | A1win | preset point objects |
| 00:48.53 | zeta3 | ^ |
| 00:48.57 | *** join/#sc2mapster Rodrigo (464f4549@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.79.69.73) |
| 00:48.57 | depthsofchaos | ah |
| 00:49.00 | JManV | oh, if it's programmatic, generate the array programmatically |
| 00:49.01 | A1win | would be useful yeah |
| 00:49.07 | JManV | if there's a pattern |
| 00:49.21 | zeta3 | well i've already placed the points on the map |
| 00:49.26 | Rodrigo | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2179759335 |
| 00:49.30 | Shawn|Rawr | No one touch that damn link |
| 00:49.33 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 00:49.34 | Rodrigo | I can't bump :( |
| 00:49.35 | depthsofchaos | then just store the point in an array |
| 00:49.40 | Shawn|Rawr | Good |
| 00:49.45 | JManV | you haven't learned? |
| 00:49.56 | JManV | we're not your bump whores |
| 00:49.58 | Shawn|Rawr | Know what? I typed "dont touch that link" before you even typed it |
| 00:50.03 | Rodrigo | new blizz forums rule say that bumped threads will be deletes :( |
| 00:50.10 | Rodrigo | deleted* |
| 00:50.25 | Rodrigo | :( |
| 00:50.30 | JManV | nice to see your thread in the forum in which it belongs... |
| 00:50.36 | depthsofchaos | hello rodrigo to you too |
| 00:50.45 | Rodrigo | hello. |
| 00:50.49 | Rodrigo | yeah, blizzard moved my thread |
| 00:50.52 | Rodrigo | which I didnt like |
| 00:51.05 | Rodrigo | because the Custom Map section is Blizzard's Sunny Side |
| 00:51.05 | JManV | you put it in the wrong forum |
| 00:51.07 | Shawn|Rawr | Maybe someone reported it for.. idk.. being in the wrong forum |
| 00:51.11 | Shawn|Rawr | lol |
| 00:51.22 | zeta3 | well now i need to do set Points[1]=b1, set Points[2]=b2, trololol |
| 00:51.33 | JManV | maybe that did that because you continuously coming into this channel, ask us for bumps, then leave |
| 00:51.36 | Rodrigo | all the toys are left alone in the custom map section |
| 00:51.49 | JManV | regardless, it's where it belongs |
| 00:51.52 | Shawn|Rawr | zeta3, set the points to an object group? |
| 00:51.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Much faster |
| 00:52.00 | zeta3 | how do you do that |
| 00:52.06 | JManV | in the terrain editor |
| 00:52.07 | Rodrigo | hey, I've only asked for bumps twice |
| 00:52.14 | A1win | what, there's object grouping O_o |
| 00:52.20 | Rodrigo | twice is not continuously |
| 00:52.20 | JManV | once was too many? |
| 00:52.21 | grim001 | I guess I will use my preprocessor to hack up the natives file and extract anything that looks like a native type |
| 00:52.25 | Shawn|Rawr | Dude, everytime you come in here you post a link an leave |
| 00:52.35 | JManV | especially since you left immediately |
| 00:52.36 | Rodrigo | I dont leave |
| 00:52.38 | Shawn|Rawr | You never help anyone, you never say hi.. you link and leave |
| 00:52.41 | JManV | immediately |
| 00:52.42 | Rodrigo | I left last time cause I had class |
| 00:52.48 | zeta3 | Shawn|Rawr, what are object groups |
| 00:52.53 | Rodrigo | and I helped someone before leaving |
| 00:52.55 | JManV | convenient that you came in here right before class |
| 00:53.00 | Shawn|Rawr | Select the points, then press numpad 0 |
| 00:53.11 | Rodrigo | i helped with the variants question before leaving |
| 00:53.12 | Shawn|Rawr | Go to map - object groups |
| 00:53.12 | JManV | you did, i was marginally impressed |
| 00:53.16 | Shawn|Rawr | and see if they show up |
| 00:53.21 | zeta3 | O WTF |
| 00:53.33 | JManV | but you still intentionally put that thread in the wrong forum and you know it |
| 00:53.44 | grim001 | oh wait... I just remembered... my damn syntax highlighting file for notepad++ already has all of the native types listed in it. |
| 00:53.54 | Rodrigo | a melee thread should be poted where the melee players are |
| 00:53.59 | zeta3 | wait what are object groups like what do you do with it, is it a variable array, etc.? |
| 00:54.06 | zeta3 | how do i iterate over each member of the object group |
| 00:54.06 | Rodrigo | the thread was about melee, and the melee players weren't in the custom map section |
| 00:54.17 | Shawn|Rawr | It's like a unit group for points or whatever |
| 00:54.23 | Shawn|Rawr | iirc |
| 00:54.25 | JManV | blizzard disagrees |
| 00:54.35 | Shawn|Rawr | try playing with it before you do anything big though |
| 00:54.37 | zeta3 | yes but how do i reference an element |
| 00:54.39 | Shawn|Rawr | i havent used point groups |
| 00:54.41 | JManV | otherwise the wouldn't have moved it |
| 00:54.41 | zeta3 | of an object group |
| 00:54.45 | Rodrigo | probably because one of u guyz reported it :( |
| 00:54.46 | zeta3 | for a trigger |
| 00:55.03 | Shawn|Rawr | Hmm.. should just be able to access it in the point value part |
| 00:55.09 | Shawn|Rawr | let me look real quick to be sure |
| 00:55.12 | Bounty | last call |
| 00:55.12 | JManV | people report all kinds of posts all the time. blizz doesn't listen to them all |
| 00:55.18 | Bounty | if u wanna be in the launch video for my map |
| 00:55.20 | Bounty | let me know |
| 00:55.35 | Rodrigo | i bet they listen |
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| 00:56.00 | JManV | i've seen six get reported on like 3 different posts where he did nothing wrong |
| 00:56.04 | JManV | and blizz does nothing |
| 00:56.23 | Shawn|Rawr | Why would we report the threads you keep spamming, anyway? |
| 00:56.23 | Rodrigo | for each blizzard moderator there are 20 policing the forums. |
| 00:56.25 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 00:57.00 | Rodrigo | yeah, my thread wasnt reported |
| 00:57.12 | Rodrigo | otherwise it would have the resident evil symbol on it |
| 00:57.22 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 00:57.50 | zeta3 | Shawn|Rawr, i think i may need to do custom scripts to access members of a point group |
| 00:57.54 | zeta3 | same with doodad groups -_- |
| 00:58.03 | JManV | oh, so they moved it on their own |
| 00:58.08 | Rodrigo | and btw, I'm doing a Debates 2 in june |
| 00:58.08 | JManV | only proved my point further |
| 00:58.24 | Rodrigo | its not actually Debates, but it's a competitive social map like debates |
| 00:58.51 | Rodrigo | :) |
| 00:59.12 | Rodrigo | it's more unique than debates, though |
| 00:59.25 | JManV | if i may be frank, just the name "debates" is a turn-off to me |
| 00:59.35 | JManV | i hear it and think "there's no way i want to play that" |
| 00:59.43 | JManV | i may not be your target audience, however |
| 00:59.51 | Rodrigo | so, should I call it "This is not Debates?" |
| 01:00.04 | zeta3 | "This is not Debates" contains the name debates |
| 01:00.10 | zeta3 | nice try : |
| 01:00.11 | zeta3 | P |
| 01:00.22 | Rodrigo | "This is note Dbates" then |
| 01:00.39 | JManV | i dunno. i'm just offering my unsolicited opinion |
| 01:00.56 | onetwo | any EU here? |
| 01:01.05 | Rodrigo | I've telled the map idea for 1 person, and he is desperate to play it |
| 01:01.09 | Rodrigo | told* |
| 01:01.15 | Shawn|Rawr | zeta3, sorry. I though it would be able to be used since its there.. seems its a completely useless feature |
| 01:01.20 | JManV | i only just played it for the first time last week. it's not bad. not my cup of tea, but it looked nice |
| 01:01.21 | Shawn|Rawr | thats annoying |
| 01:01.30 | zeta3 | Shawn|Rawr, i think the GUI may not be able to access it |
| 01:01.35 | zeta3 | there might be some call I still do |
| 01:01.46 | zeta3 | how do you convert triggers to script again? |
| 01:01.47 | Shawn|Rawr | Ask jademussreg |
| 01:02.09 | Rodrigo | have u guyz played icjug? |
| 01:02.21 | JManV | no |
| 01:02.30 | JManV | but i haven't played the obs one in a long time, either |
| 01:02.47 | Shawn|Rawr | I dont play melee anymore |
| 01:02.50 | Rodrigo | its your cup of tea in the debates' jug |
| 01:03.03 | JManV | you might be suffering from name-itus on that one, too |
| 01:03.05 | Shawn|Rawr | That made no sense |
| 01:03.19 | Rodrigo | it makes sense cause icjug uses the debates system |
| 01:03.35 | Shawn|Rawr | Right, but why the hell would cup be in a jug |
| 01:03.36 | JManV | to you perhaps |
| 01:03.37 | Shawn|Rawr | That is stupid |
| 01:03.55 | Rodrigo | just the ranking of debates, not everything |
| 01:04.12 | Rodrigo | anyway, I have to paint something for my drawing class |
| 01:04.24 | Rodrigo | last class I had to draw a naked granpa |
| 01:04.25 | Shawn|Rawr | btw, did NOT appreciate all of the offensive comics |
| 01:04.34 | JManV | i think you should rid the map of any admin features that allow the admin too interfere with the game in any way |
| 01:04.39 | Rodrigo | what offensive comics? |
| 01:04.41 | Demo | Is there any way to turn peoples graphics settings up via triggers? |
| 01:04.53 | Shawn|Rawr | The ones in the contest |
| 01:04.56 | Shawn|Rawr | You posted 5 of them |
| 01:04.57 | Rodrigo | demo, I dont think so |
| 01:05.04 | Shawn|Rawr | like 1/3 of the entries were you |
| 01:05.15 | Demo | because my map is only playable if the shaders are not on low |
| 01:05.16 | Rodrigo | Yeah, I posted 5 comcs. What's the problem? |
| 01:05.22 | Rodrigo | there was no limit |
| 01:05.26 | Rodrigo | u could have posted 10 if you wanted |
| 01:05.30 | JManV | his were actually some of the funnier ones |
| 01:05.32 | Demo | and is harder to play on medium :/ |
| 01:05.43 | JManV | now, i didn't really think any of them were funny at all |
| 01:05.56 | Rodrigo | lol |
| 01:05.57 | JManV | but on a scale from -10 to 0, several of his were hoverig around 0 |
| 01:05.57 | Demo | I laughed pretty hard at the baneling hitting the twin towers |
| 01:06.07 | Demo | only because of how "wrong" it is |
| 01:06.08 | Shawn|Rawr | Thats fucked up |
| 01:06.10 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 01:06.14 | Rodrigo | haha |
| 01:06.33 | Demo | I wasn't laughing because people died |
| 01:06.45 | Demo | I was laughing because if it was sc2 that's how it would have happened! |
| 01:07.04 | Shawn|Rawr | Ya. what happened is just a joke to you |
| 01:07.06 | Shawn|Rawr | thats good to know |
| 01:07.17 | CryptRat | Would anyone be interested in helping me test my map? x_x |
| 01:07.19 | Demo | I guess I will just have to recommend that people have their shaders up |
| 01:07.31 | Demo | What the earthquake tsunami? |
| 01:07.31 | Rodrigo | yup |
| 01:07.47 | Rodrigo | too early to make jokes, people are still sad |
| 01:07.47 | JManV | i have to recommend that the experience will be better on high graphics settings |
| 01:07.54 | JManV | lighting sucks under high |
| 01:08.12 | Demo | Mines only one setting that needs to be at a specific setting |
| 01:08.28 | Demo | the rest idc if it looks like crap |
| 01:08.36 | zeta3 | i see this weird jargon lik unitgroup auto97E05360_g; |
| 01:09.13 | JManV | h |
| 01:09.30 | JManV | well, mine will still look ok under high, but the lighting effects won't be as cool |
| 01:09.44 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 01:09.53 | CryptRat | x_x Adding campaign dependancies made my map 10x bigger. |
| 01:10.08 | Bounty | jade |
| 01:10.12 | Bounty | still need u if ur in |
| 01:10.13 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:10.19 | Bounty | we're going again with the pros |
| 01:10.21 | JademusSreg | I need to take out the trash. |
| 01:10.23 | zeta3 | JademusSreg, any idea if pointgroups work? |
| 01:10.23 | Demo | but in either case as to the joking of that,my cousins uncle was killed by being on one of the planes that hit tower 2, his family gained a 3 million dollar settlement |
| 01:10.33 | JademusSreg | Hopefully that will provide amp,le time to assemble a full team. |
| 01:10.53 | JademusSreg | What the hell is ap oint group? |
| 01:10.53 | Demo | It's bad that it happens to people, but theres no reason to feel bad about the situation at all times |
| 01:10.57 | JademusSreg | Also, brb, taking out trash. |
| 01:11.09 | zeta3 | its one of the object groups |
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| 01:12.13 | Rodrigo | i gotta grab some chocolate cake |
| 01:12.25 | JManV | i'm a bad person. i actually laughed when my sister told me it happened. |
| 01:12.46 | JManV | i said "it's about time they took those buildings down" |
| 01:12.50 | JManV | i'm horrible |
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| 01:13.21 | Demo | yet again, humorous but people see the light side |
| 01:13.30 | Bounty | Demo |
| 01:13.35 | JManV | that was before i truly realized how horrible it was |
| 01:13.38 | Bounty | im filming the launch video for speed craft, u want in? =P |
| 01:13.41 | Demo | I mean you don't look at the westboro baptist church and not laugh? |
| 01:13.45 | Demo | Sure |
| 01:14.03 | Shawn|Rawr | They aren't real |
| 01:14.19 | Shawn|Rawr | Err wait.. i might be thinking of the wrong one |
| 01:14.30 | Demo | They're the group of "god hates fags" |
| 01:14.39 | Shawn|Rawr | He does |
| 01:14.42 | Shawn|Rawr | jk |
| 01:14.44 | Demo | they went to a soldiers funeral protesting that god hates soldiers and the like |
| 01:15.01 | Bounty | just waiting on u Demo :) |
| 01:15.07 | Demo | getting on |
| 01:15.14 | Demo | was messing with some settings |
| 01:15.14 | Bounty | shawn, u want in? |
| 01:15.32 | Shawn|Rawr | I suppose |
| 01:15.36 | Shawn|Rawr | 2 secs |
| 01:17.06 | CryptRat | I'm online... o.o |
| 01:17.17 | Bounty | get into mapster channel |
| 01:17.18 | Bounty | one spot left |
| 01:17.24 | CryptRat | mapster has a channel? |
| 01:17.31 | Bounty | sc2mapster |
| 01:17.32 | Bounty | yep |
| 01:18.21 | *** join/#sc2mapster tordy (6274591f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.116.89.31) |
| 01:18.29 | JManV | http://i55.tinypic.com/315lab4.png |
| 01:18.33 | JManV | lolcakes |
| 01:18.45 | Rodrigo | ROFL |
| 01:18.55 | Rodrigo | this is awesome |
| 01:19.10 | tordy | JManV: |
| 01:19.11 | tordy | MORE |
| 01:19.34 | JManV | http://i52.tinypic.com/6s9r3c.jpg |
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| 01:20.17 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 01:20.32 | JManV | there's a bunch more, but i'm working on finishing up that "cinematic" |
| 01:20.38 | tordy | wowooww |
| 01:20.40 | depthsofchaos | why do i have to reveal my gender to a pokemon game :( |
| 01:20.44 | tordy | can you make a 3rd gender |
| 01:20.50 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 01:20.52 | onetwo | im bi-winning |
| 01:20.53 | onetwo | afk |
| 01:20.56 | tordy | ^ |
| 01:20.59 | Skizot | do it! |
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| 01:21.07 | JManV | i'm considering it |
| 01:21.11 | Skizot | make a "other" option. |
| 01:21.15 | JManV | but then everyone would pick that |
| 01:21.15 | Rodrigo | Boy Girl and Protoss |
| 01:21.26 | Skizot | players model is a squirrel |
| 01:21.31 | JManV | noone would pick boy or girl |
| 01:21.45 | JManV | other would be imba :P |
| 01:21.49 | tordy | nah |
| 01:21.51 | depthsofchaos | shemale |
| 01:21.59 | tordy | nah that's just aritifical |
| 01:22.02 | Rodrigo | so dont put boy or girl |
| 01:22.04 | tordy | make a natural 3rd gender |
| 01:22.06 | JademusSreg | Neuter. |
| 01:22.10 | grim001 | hmm, what are the valid prefixes to a type in galaxy? "native" and "const" are it, aren't they? |
| 01:22.16 | JademusSreg | Android. |
| 01:22.16 | JManV | boy, girl, zombie :P |
| 01:22.21 | grim001 | although people should not typically be declaring new natives |
| 01:22.24 | JademusSreg | grim, yes. |
| 01:22.25 | depthsofchaos | will these be made up pokemons? |
| 01:22.29 | Skizot | zombies can be boys or girls. |
| 01:22.33 | JManV | all sc2 units |
| 01:22.34 | Rodrigo | what gender are you? "Android" "Protoss" or "Neutral" |
| 01:22.34 | JademusSreg | There is also static. |
| 01:22.45 | Skizot | ZOMBIES WERE PEOPLE TOO |
| 01:22.50 | JManV | gender doesn't really matter once your a zombie |
| 01:22.50 | depthsofchaos | stalkeromon? |
| 01:22.52 | grim001 | so what function does the "static" prefix serve in galaxy? |
| 01:22.55 | depthsofchaos | thoromon? |
| 01:23.03 | Rodrigo | stalkeromon is awesome |
| 01:23.17 | JademusSreg | I'm not entirely sure. iirc, it makes something inaccessable outside of the script. |
| 01:23.20 | JManV | might be Stalkoise :P |
| 01:23.41 | grim001 | so it's basically "private" that already exists? |
| 01:23.42 | Rodrigo | Stalkassaur |
| 01:23.56 | JManV | thats not bad :) |
| 01:24.09 | Rodrigo | zergloise |
| 01:24.11 | JademusSreg | Like an included script will not allow its static declarations to be accessible by the including scrip[t. |
| 01:24.17 | depthsofchaos | static only works for classes no? |
| 01:24.20 | Rodrigo | or zergchu |
| 01:24.32 | JManV | already a probichu :P |
| 01:24.36 | Rodrigo | Roachu |
| 01:24.42 | JManV | that's my avatar |
| 01:24.48 | JademusSreg | So yeah, it's like private. |
| 01:24.50 | JManV | is a screenshot of probichu from my game |
| 01:24.56 | tordy | PROBICHU |
| 01:24.57 | Rodrigo | lmao |
| 01:24.57 | tordy | XFD |
| 01:25.03 | tordy | i love it |
| 01:25.05 | tordy | :) |
| 01:25.16 | Rodrigo | make it so it saves the player pokemon level :) |
| 01:25.20 | JManV | i've been thinking of modifying my avatar to actually say "Probichu FTW" |
| 01:25.31 | JManV | ofc it will save everything |
| 01:25.33 | grim001 | well if it already exists that makes my job easier. |
| 01:25.37 | depthsofchaos | marinemander |
| 01:25.44 | JManV | hehe |
| 01:25.59 | JademusSreg | Test it to make sure I'm correct. =) |
| 01:26.08 | JademusSreg | My memory is not exactly reliable. |
| 01:27.24 | Rodrigo | dont forget the larvepod |
| 01:27.42 | Rodrigo | use the larvae as a centapod |
| 01:28.02 | Rodrigo | no |
| 01:28.04 | Rodrigo | caterpie is better |
| 01:28.14 | JManV | hmm. i need a good animation for the stalker to come in with |
| 01:28.17 | Rodrigo | larvaepie |
| 01:28.27 | JManV | i'm not sure hallicanation birth or stalker warp in are doing it for me |
| 01:28.36 | Rodrigo | there is a smoke one |
| 01:28.40 | Rodrigo | throw a ball |
| 01:28.43 | Rodrigo | and use a smoke |
| 01:28.53 | JademusSreg | Zeratul blink. |
| 01:28.55 | Rodrigo | and he appears on the smoke |
| 01:29.04 | Rodrigo | from the pokeball |
| 01:29.21 | Rodrigo | i used the smoke in platform defense level up |
| 01:29.32 | JManV | oh sweet |
| 01:29.41 | JManV | thx much |
| 01:29.43 | Rodrigo | u can download it and see what's the name |
| 01:30.25 | Rodrigo | i gotta get more cake. I'll host icjug too :) |
| 01:31.50 | Rodrigo | how will the map be called? Pokecraft? |
| 01:31.59 | JManV | pretty close |
| 01:32.09 | JManV | oh |
| 01:32.20 | JManV | i'm still leaning towards "Pocket Warriors" |
| 01:32.38 | JManV | haven' |
| 01:32.39 | JManV | t |
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| 01:32.44 | JManV | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:33.31 | JManV | although, at this point, i'm starting to type "Pocket Warriors" into a lot of different things |
| 01:33.35 | JManV | so i might be stuck :P |
| 01:33.50 | depthsofchaos | pimps of the pocket |
| 01:35.16 | JManV | i guess i could use some constants just in case :P |
| 01:40.22 | Shawn|Rawr | You guys were right.. ULoseTheGame does have a mancrush on roddy |
| 01:40.30 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
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| 01:42.09 | JManV | i know |
| 01:42.13 | JManV | it's not healthy |
| 01:42.33 | Shawn|Rawr | I called roddy a douche just to see what he would say.. and dude goes off on me |
| 01:42.42 | Shawn|Rawr | It was ridiculous |
| 01:42.51 | JManV | like he's smoked that pole, right? |
| 01:42.57 | Shawn|Rawr | Hell ya |
| 01:44.34 | Shawn|Rawr | It was funny. He was like "So you won't play his map because you don't like him." and of course i said yes |
| 01:45.00 | Shawn|Rawr | Then he accused me of "thinking i have a huge epeen and that people care what i think" |
| 01:45.08 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 01:45.39 | Shawn|Rawr | Trolling is fun. I should do it everytime i see him |
| 01:47.02 | JManV | i'm not sure i can deal with him on friday |
| 01:47.15 | JManV | he tries to run map night |
| 01:47.40 | Shawn|Rawr | He'll try to run it straight into icjjug |
| 01:47.47 | JManV | but nobody wants to do what he wants to do |
| 01:47.48 | Rodrigo | JManV, I know a perfect animation for ur stalkermon |
| 01:48.03 | Rodrigo | when the sentry hallucination goes off |
| 01:48.12 | Rodrigo | it makes a sound and smoke like a pokeball |
| 01:49.11 | Shawn|Rawr | Want me to come to map night as a cohost? :P |
| 01:49.34 | Shawn|Rawr | Is ULose even in charge in any way? |
| 01:49.42 | JademusSreg | Yah. |
| 01:49.43 | JManV | no |
| 01:49.50 | JademusSreg | Yah at the former. |
| 01:49.57 | JademusSreg | Humorous observations. |
| 01:49.59 | JManV | and he only wants to play what he wants to play |
| 01:50.11 | JManV | which is against the spirit of map night |
| 01:50.18 | JManV | i mean, i played debates |
| 01:50.24 | JManV | so did jade |
| 01:50.30 | JManV | that's the spirit of map night |
| 01:50.49 | Shawn|Rawr | Cool. Just tell me what I gotta do and I'll tell him to go jerk it if he tries to say anything |
| 01:50.53 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 01:50.55 | JManV | but he bitches about light cycles and basically anything else anyone else picks |
| 01:51.16 | JManV | he left last time |
| 01:51.25 | JManV | we wanted to play a game that he didn't want to |
| 01:51.34 | zeta3 | Shawn|Rawr, I think i figured out what point groups do |
| 01:51.35 | JManV | but i had 6, so i booted him from the part |
| 01:51.44 | JManV | said, i'd pick him up next game |
| 01:51.49 | JManV | but he stormed off |
| 01:51.57 | Shawn|Rawr | I'd boot him for the lulz |
| 01:52.00 | Shawn|Rawr | Just for that |
| 01:52.07 | Shawn|Rawr | zeta, what do they do? |
| 01:52.11 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm interested |
| 01:52.14 | zeta3 | their only utility seems to be ensuring that all points within a point group move together |
| 01:52.27 | Shawn|Rawr | Oh. I knew that one. |
| 01:52.36 | Griffith` | but yeah, aside from that I can't even find a function that calls it |
| 01:52.40 | Shawn|Rawr | I was thinking they could be used in triggers |
| 01:52.42 | Shawn|Rawr | Too bad |
| 01:52.48 | Griffith` | yeah they would have been nice and useful |
| 01:53.01 | Shawn|Rawr | Maybe we should ask Blizz to make them do something |
| 01:53.24 | Shawn|Rawr | Then in another 3 patches, we might get it |
| 01:53.40 | Dryeyece | lol |
| 01:54.34 | Griffith` | i haz no contact within blizzard |
| 01:54.48 | Shawn|Rawr | Custom map forum imo |
| 01:55.00 | Shawn|Rawr | Gotta be somehting in there to post suggestions |
| 01:57.59 | Demo | Blizzard is supposedly not allowed to take suggestions anymore |
| 01:58.10 | Demo | they removed ALL suggestion forums |
| 01:58.13 | Demo | for all of their games |
| 01:58.52 | depthsofchaos | good business model |
| 02:00.30 | Demo | Great from a legal standpoint |
| 02:00.54 | Demo | but terrible for any company imo |
| 02:01.09 | Demo | should always be able to take ideas and critisizm that people want to see |
| 02:01.24 | Shawn|Rawr | Sixen, does renee have rage issues or just doesnt like you? |
| 02:01.37 | depthsofchaos | only people who will buy their next game anyhow criticize their game :p |
| 02:02.28 | Bibendus | goin up |
| 02:02.54 | Bibendus | shawn shouldnt u have been goin to work? |
| 02:03.06 | Shawn|Rawr | For what? |
| 02:03.14 | Bibendus | didnt u say that? xD |
| 02:03.20 | Shawn|Rawr | I said I am working on SCU |
| 02:03.27 | Bibendus | oh |
| 02:03.28 | Bibendus | xD |
| 02:03.31 | Bibendus | wtf is scu |
| 02:03.42 | Shawn|Rawr | World of Starcraft / Starcraft Universe |
| 02:03.50 | Shawn|Rawr | That thing |
| 02:04.00 | Shawn|Rawr | The one that got newsed yesterday or somehting |
| 02:04.16 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 02:04.32 | Bounty | video is done Jade :) |
| 02:04.38 | Bounty | just gotta publish it to youtube |
| 02:04.49 | Shawn|Rawr | Did you get good footage of me bouncing around like crazy? |
| 02:05.00 | Shawn|Rawr | That one part of your map is impossible to get through without dying at least once |
| 02:05.22 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:05.28 | Bounty | half of the footage is the race |
| 02:05.36 | Bounty | the other half is after sockfolder and i won |
| 02:05.42 | Bounty | and turned around =P |
| 02:05.45 | Bounty | so i prolly got that |
| 02:06.16 | Shawn|Rawr | Good. That was my friend's account and I expect him to be pleasantly surprised when he watches it lol |
| 02:06.48 | Bibendus | sixen |
| 02:06.50 | Bibendus | are you ready |
| 02:06.53 | Bibendus | for the big video? |
| 02:06.54 | Bibendus | :P |
| 02:07.06 | Bounty | lol shawn |
| 02:07.08 | Shawn|Rawr | Why is everyone doing videos todaY? |
| 02:07.15 | onetwo | easier for news |
| 02:07.19 | onetwo | drives viewers |
| 02:07.20 | onetwo | to the site |
| 02:07.35 | Shawn|Rawr | No no.. I mean they are both doing it on the same day |
| 02:07.38 | Shawn|Rawr | I know why to make a video |
| 02:08.46 | Bibendus | who is making a video? |
| 02:08.48 | Bibendus | of what |
| 02:08.49 | Bibendus | and why! |
| 02:08.57 | Shawn|Rawr | Bounty is making one of his racing map |
| 02:08.58 | Bibendus | who dares to do it in my same day |
| 02:09.02 | Bibendus | oh |
| 02:09.07 | Bibendus | he has tonz of maps |
| 02:09.15 | Bibendus | who cares xD |
| 02:09.27 | Bibendus | btw |
| 02:09.31 | Bibendus | i still need to add all the comments |
| 02:09.40 | Bibendus | so I'm not in hurry :P |
| 02:09.47 | *** join/#sc2mapster Shawn|Rawr (~chatzilla@ip70-189-159-47.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 02:09.50 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n1vxkJfaiY |
| 02:09.55 | Bounty | actually bib |
| 02:09.59 | Bounty | i havent released a map in like 5 months |
| 02:10.00 | Shawn|Rawr | I apparently found the "disconnect" hotkey |
| 02:10.02 | Bibendus | just uploaded |
| 02:10.02 | Bounty | ive MADe maps |
| 02:10.05 | Bibendus | so the quality suckz |
| 02:10.08 | Bounty | just never released em >< |
| 02:10.24 | onetwo | i better make a vid too |
| 02:10.27 | onetwo | today |
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| 02:11.04 | Bibendus | lol |
| 02:12.12 | Shawn|Rawr | Do I have to type in a bunch of chat commands to play? |
| 02:12.12 | Bibendus | mmm someone had an orgazm |
| 02:12.14 | Bibendus | seeing the vid |
| 02:12.15 | Bibendus | :| |
| 02:12.24 | Bibendus | on my map u mean? |
| 02:12.27 | Bibendus | no its just for debug |
| 02:12.28 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes |
| 02:12.31 | Bibendus | and to make it fast |
| 02:12.45 | Bibendus | i ll write it in the notes but now I think ill go to sleep :D |
| 02:13.07 | Shawn|Rawr | ok. I dont want to remember a bunch of chat commands lol |
| 02:13.11 | Bibendus | xD |
| 02:13.12 | Shawn|Rawr | D: |
| 02:13.17 | Griffith` | how can i make it so roaches can burrowed below mineral lines |
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| 02:13.40 | Bibendus | uhhh i like the preview video |
| 02:13.46 | Bibendus | image |
| 02:13.51 | Shawn|Rawr | Also, fix the word "development" in the notes |
| 02:13.56 | Bibendus | this time it's decent |
| 02:14.00 | Shawn|Rawr | You always seem to spell that wrong |
| 02:14.14 | Bibendus | fu |
| 02:14.14 | Bibendus | xD |
| 02:14.27 | Bibendus | Development Diary #3 |
| 02:14.30 | Bibendus | isnt that correct? |
| 02:14.34 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes |
| 02:14.47 | Bibendus | oh |
| 02:14.48 | Bibendus | writte |
| 02:14.51 | Bibendus | in the notes too |
| 02:14.55 | Bibendus | the title was correct :P |
| 02:15.07 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes, the notes one was wrong |
| 02:15.10 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 02:15.33 | Shawn|Rawr | The title is fine, which makes me wonder how you spelled it wrong the second time |
| 02:15.37 | Griffith` | anyone? |
| 02:15.47 | Bibendus | cuz actually |
| 02:15.49 | Bibendus | i corrected the title |
| 02:15.52 | Bibendus | and not the notes |
| 02:15.53 | Bibendus | xD |
| 02:16.10 | Shawn|Rawr | You have to change the collision on the burrowed roach i think |
| 02:16.20 | Shawn|Rawr | But that would allow it to go under lots of things i think |
| 02:16.32 | JManV | omg |
| 02:16.42 | Griffith` | hm |
| 02:16.43 | Griffith` | i see |
| 02:16.44 | Bibendus | there is a bunch of collision types |
| 02:16.53 | Griffith` | minerals count as a unit |
| 02:16.55 | Bibendus | and tonz of unused that actually are used |
| 02:16.55 | Bibendus | xD |
| 02:16.59 | Bibendus | yep |
| 02:17.03 | Bibendus | i think |
| 02:17.05 | JManV | i bet i could get a bunch of ppl to send me clips of them saying the name of a "sc2kemon" in a funny voice |
| 02:17.11 | Bibendus | u should work on the minerals collision |
| 02:17.14 | JManV | and i bet i could fit a lot of them in my map |
| 02:17.14 | Bibendus | not on roaches |
| 02:17.23 | JManV | so pokemon can actually talk :P |
| 02:17.23 | Bibendus | remove the BURROWED collision on minerals |
| 02:17.25 | Bibendus | and u should be fine |
| 02:18.46 | Shawn|Rawr | RyanWin does some amazing sound work |
| 02:19.01 | Shawn|Rawr | He actually recorded himself and edited it so i thought it was a sc2 sounds |
| 02:19.11 | Shawn|Rawr | very convincing lol |
| 02:20.05 | JManV | yeha, i bet i can get a bunch of different sounding voices too |
| 02:21.23 | Bibendus | goin to sleep |
| 02:21.24 | Bibendus | cya :D |
| 02:23.20 | Skizot | oh god. |
| 02:23.32 | Skizot | skizbot has to be auto tuned and sound like tpain. |
| 02:24.04 | Bounty | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/19658-release-video-speed-craft-f-zero-style-racer/ |
| 02:24.06 | Griffith` | bah no dice |
| 02:26.57 | JManV | i'm cool with skizbot sounding like t-pain |
| 02:27.09 | JManV | i can hear it now :P |
| 02:27.11 | Shawn|Rawr | I have autotune |
| 02:27.15 | Shawn|Rawr | :) |
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| 02:27.29 | tordy | is 10MB still the limit for publish |
| 02:27.32 | Griffith` | yes |
| 02:27.39 | tordy | gaaaaaa |
| 02:27.57 | Bounty | mah new map is out :) |
| 02:27.57 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy1QMuvs0UY |
| 02:28.21 | JManV | oooo |
| 02:28.33 | JManV | i think day9 just spilled the beans |
| 02:28.40 | Griffith` | on what? |
| 02:28.53 | Griffith` | i dont get it, my roach (Burrowed) collides only with Unused (Land 07), and my mineral patch only collides with Ground, Structure, yet my roach still can't move past it |
| 02:28.53 | JManV | six's special project |
| 02:28.58 | Griffith` | what is it |
| 02:29.13 | JManV | guess sc2replayed is in on a funday monday |
| 02:29.15 | Dryeyece | what kind of footprints are on the minerals? |
| 02:29.36 | Dryeyece | they can have collision and a footprint that will function seperately |
| 02:30.11 | Shawn|Rawr | What is six's project? |
| 02:30.15 | Shawn|Rawr | O__O |
| 02:30.28 | Dryeyece | Six is working on a project? |
| 02:30.29 | JManV | i'm not sure if that's it |
| 02:30.41 | JManV | but i guess sc2replayed is in on an upcoming funday monday in some way |
| 02:30.52 | grim001 | the brain fog has lifted |
| 02:30.52 | grim001 | time to test static |
| 02:31.36 | Griffith` | Dryeyece, mineral patch actors have no footprint property, like Actor - Footprint doesn't even exist |
| 02:31.46 | Dryeyece | they arent units? |
| 02:31.54 | Dryeyece | I would have figured a mineral patch was a unit |
| 02:32.02 | Griffith` | they are units but their actors have no footprints |
| 02:32.12 | Dryeyece | units have footprints too |
| 02:32.41 | Griffith` | ahh |
| 02:32.41 | Griffith` | i see |
| 02:32.46 | Dryeyece | in fact they have like 3 or 4 fields for it |
| 02:33.35 | Griffith` | hm |
| 02:33.36 | Griffith` | nm |
| 02:33.56 | Griffith` | but the thing is, how do i modify the footprint so only burrowed roaches can apss through, but other units can't |
| 02:34.09 | Dryeyece | its collision will do that |
| 02:34.25 | Dryeyece | if it collides with ground no ground units gonna go though it |
| 02:34.26 | Dryeyece | through |
| 02:34.32 | Dryeyece | whether it has a footprint or not |
| 02:34.59 | Griffith` | ah |
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| 02:35.45 | Dryeyece | mineral fields have a placement footprint that prevents buildings from being built too close to them I do believe |
| 02:35.57 | Dryeyece | but that shouldnt interfere with a burrowed roach |
| 02:38.35 | Dryeyece | its the only one they have so remove it and see if it works, but then I am pretty sure you would be able to build a CC like right up against minerals |
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| 02:40.10 | Sixen | SC2replayed is in funday monday? |
| 02:40.12 | Sixen | I didn't even know that :P |
| 02:40.21 | Dryeyece | lol |
| 02:40.24 | Shawn|Rawr | Sixen, does renee hate you? |
| 02:40.28 | Sixen | lol no |
| 02:40.32 | Sixen | He just doesn't speak very good English |
| 02:40.39 | Shawn|Rawr | Oh. she seemed angry in the bug thread |
| 02:40.48 | Dryeyece | is it she or he? |
| 02:40.56 | Shawn|Rawr | Thanks for including the actor scope thing |
| 02:40.58 | JManV | oh really? |
| 02:41.12 | Sixen | I'm not sure if he's a she or he either :P |
| 02:41.16 | JManV | he plugged sc2replayed tonight, and brought up an upcoming funday monday |
| 02:41.22 | Shawn|Rawr | I just say she. Renee is a girl name |
| 02:41.22 | JManV | he was intentionally vague tho |
| 02:41.33 | Dryeyece | =p |
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| 02:41.40 | Sixen | I missed it :X |
| 02:41.57 | Shawn|Rawr | I wanna know the secret |
| 02:41.58 | JManV | watch the blip tomorrow |
| 02:42.01 | Shawn|Rawr | -.- |
| 02:42.02 | Sixen | ok =] |
| 02:43.13 | Bounty | So |
| 02:43.17 | Bounty | i wonder how the map will do Sixen lol |
| 02:43.50 | Bounty | i seem to have gotten mostly a love it or hate it type of response |
| 02:43.51 | Shawn|Rawr | Bounty, sometime tonight you wanna type random names of people in irc and see if anyone gets angry? |
| 02:44.01 | Sixen | :P |
| 02:44.08 | Sixen | Yeah, don't do that. |
| 02:44.24 | Shawn|Rawr | But they never say anything |
| 02:44.33 | Shawn|Rawr | It's a wonder why they come here |
| 02:45.09 | Bounty | um shawn |
| 02:45.14 | Bounty | i was wondering that exact same thing the other night |
| 02:45.21 | Bounty | so i typed a single message that included EVERYONE names |
| 02:45.30 | Bounty | got about 50 pissed off ppl |
| 02:45.34 | Bounty | lol |
| 02:45.38 | Dryeyece | lol |
| 02:45.43 | Shawn|Rawr | THAT is damn hilarious |
| 02:46.14 | Bounty | i would NEVER do it again thought (Sixen slapped me when i did it) |
| 02:46.17 | Bounty | though* |
| 02:46.35 | Shawn|Rawr | Haha. We can go to another chatroom and do it |
| 02:47.00 | Sixen | >.> |
| 02:47.14 | Shawn|Rawr | ( jk ) <---- |
| 02:47.22 | Shawn|Rawr | ( probably ) |
| 02:51.29 | Bounty | so |
| 02:51.35 | Bounty | how the hell do u bump ur map nowadays |
| 02:52.53 | Shawn|Rawr | Go to looking for custom maps and spam them to play it? |
| 02:53.06 | Shawn|Rawr | Get it played on map night |
| 02:53.09 | Bounty | cant just host my own game? |
| 02:53.15 | Bounty | and stay in it? |
| 02:53.15 | Shawn|Rawr | get it newsed.. yes |
| 02:53.20 | Shawn|Rawr | probably |
| 02:54.48 | Bounty | god |
| 02:54.54 | Bounty | it controls SO fucking good when u stay at 60fps |
| 02:55.00 | Bounty | i put the low draw distance on |
| 02:55.02 | Bounty | >< |
| 02:55.04 | Bounty | its not as bad as i thought |
| 03:00.52 | onetwo_WINNING | duh |
| 03:01.21 | Shawn|Rawr | ROAR |
| 03:02.14 | Bounty | what name were u playing under Shawn |
| 03:02.15 | Bounty | in the video |
| 03:02.20 | Shawn|Rawr | Miccrackens |
| 03:02.23 | Bounty | so i can try to spot a good shot of u getting effec up |
| 03:02.24 | Bounty | oo |
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| 03:03.07 | Skittles | hmm |
| 03:03.13 | Bounty | Found u Shawn |
| 03:03.15 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oy1QMuvs0UY&feature=player_embedded#at=51 |
| 03:03.16 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:03.46 | Bounty | TEH PINBALL |
| 03:04.19 | Bounty | its funny bc u blow up in that scene and the scene after >< |
| 03:04.44 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes lol. Good shots |
| 03:04.52 | Griffith` | if i have 3 levels of cliffs: L1 (Base), L2, L3, and two cliff types, A, B, I know I can do AL1, AL2, AL3, or BL1, BL2, BL3, but I can't seem to be able to mix, ie. AL1, BL2, AL3 |
| 03:05.08 | Bounty | i love how Demo was driving the course backwards the entire race |
| 03:05.58 | Shawn|Rawr | But he got 7 laps done |
| 03:06.04 | Shawn|Rawr | at least |
| 03:06.06 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:06.16 | Bounty | he started going backwards at about lap 6 |
| 03:06.55 | Bounty | im about to make the Low settings the DEFAULT settings lol |
| 03:06.58 | Bounty | bc it runs so damn good |
| 03:07.04 | Shawn|Rawr | after you won, you camped in the most difficult part of the damn map |
| 03:07.11 | Bounty | and its only a differance of 20 draw distance |
| 03:07.15 | Bounty | rofl yeah |
| 03:07.19 | onetwo_WINNING | we should rename sc2mapster to sc12mapster |
| 03:07.21 | onetwo_WINNING | duh.. winning |
| 03:07.48 | Shawn|Rawr | Ah. Gambit needs to get on lol |
| 03:07.53 | Shawn|Rawr | I hope she didnt work on her map |
| 03:08.05 | Shawn|Rawr | There was many bugs still in it |
| 03:10.44 | Shawn|Rawr | how is death haven onetwo_WINNING |
| 03:10.48 | Shawn|Rawr | ? |
| 03:11.06 | onetwo_WINNING | making me very busy |
| 03:11.10 | onetwo_WINNING | sitting at 5 now |
| 03:11.24 | Shawn|Rawr | 5 what/ |
| 03:11.26 | Shawn|Rawr | ? |
| 03:11.26 | onetwo_WINNING | rank |
| 03:11.31 | onetwo_WINNING | could die any day now i predict lol |
| 03:11.31 | Shawn|Rawr | Wow. |
| 03:11.58 | grim001 | Oh, I just realized, static isn't going to help here |
| 03:12.20 | grim001 | I am merging every .galaxy file into as single .galaxy file since import sucks so much |
| 03:12.27 | grim001 | so I'll have to handle private stuff manually |
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| 03:18.37 | Skittles | why sc12mapster? |
| 03:19.41 | grim001 | preparing for when sc12 comes out |
| 03:19.46 | Shawn|Rawr | Because onetwo is obviously winning |
| 03:19.55 | Shawn|Rawr | not 12... 1 2 |
| 03:19.58 | Shawn|Rawr | onetwo |
| 03:20.11 | Shawn|Rawr | sc(onetwo)mapster |
| 03:20.18 | Skittles | oh |
| 03:20.26 | Shawn|Rawr | :) |
| 03:20.27 | Skittles | How about 789 then |
| 03:20.52 | Skittles | hAHA |
| 03:21.06 | Skittles | be funny as hell if onetwo had 12 for his player # |
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| 03:25.15 | onetwo_WINNING | i had 212 in beta |
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| 03:32.34 | onetwo_WINNING | hi tyrannical |
| 03:35.26 | Skittles | onetwo_Winning |
| 03:35.30 | Skittles | medic is kinda op :p |
| 03:36.01 | MrOp | sup shawnsause |
| 03:36.22 | Skittles | brb] |
| 03:36.22 | MrOp | what rank are you with her skittles |
| 03:36.31 | Skittles | ? |
| 03:36.35 | Skittles | with medic/ |
| 03:36.36 | Skittles | ? |
| 03:36.39 | MrOp | yea |
| 03:36.40 | MrOp | XD |
| 03:36.41 | Skittles | It's a global thing. |
| 03:36.46 | Skittles | vice corp |
| 03:36.46 | MrOp | oO |
| 03:36.47 | Skittles | brb |
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| 03:41.31 | Skittles | back |
| 03:44.51 | MrOp | bounty are you here |
| 03:54.26 | Malachi | what is the ghost nuke actor quick |
| 03:54.29 | Malachi | the uhm |
| 03:54.32 | Malachi | animated thing |
| 03:54.33 | Malachi | actually |
| 03:54.35 | Malachi | nevermind |
| 03:56.20 | Shawn|Rawr | ghost nuke has several actoirs |
| 03:56.41 | Malachi | the more circular one on the ground |
| 03:56.43 | Malachi | a splat, as it were |
| 03:56.46 | Malachi | if I understand splats |
| 03:57.11 | Shawn|Rawr | the indicator? |
| 03:57.23 | Shawn|Rawr | Ghost Nuke Indicator |
| 03:57.26 | Malachi | Yeah, I think. I weas thinking the completed one |
| 03:57.47 | Malachi | what is the difference between Ibndicator |
| 03:57.48 | Malachi | and |
| 03:57.49 | Malachi | Target |
| 03:58.02 | Shawn|Rawr | Look at the models |
| 03:58.06 | Malachi | argh |
| 03:58.10 | Malachi | I was hoping not to have to open the data editor |
| 03:58.18 | Shawn|Rawr | Me too |
| 03:58.25 | Shawn|Rawr | That's why its not open |
| 03:58.39 | Malachi | OPEN IT >:( |
| 03:58.50 | Malachi | works |
| 03:58.51 | Malachi | perfect |
| 03:58.53 | Malachi | Thanks, bud |
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| 04:09.32 | Griffith` | man is there a way to edit footprints so i can see the pathing layer that already exists? |
| 04:10.14 | Shawn|Rawr | No |
| 04:11.29 | Griffith` | is spawn tumour a "building"? |
| 04:12.57 | Shawn|Rawr | Creep tumor? |
| 04:13.00 | Shawn|Rawr | probably |
| 04:13.45 | Shawn|Rawr | Though maybe not cuz it doesnt count towards melee victory conditions |
| 04:15.21 | Malachi | redefined identifier |
| 04:15.26 | Malachi | what the fuck does that mean |
| 04:15.52 | Shawn|Rawr | use it in a sentence |
| 04:16.03 | Malachi | It's an error I am getting in the script, even though I used GUI |
| 04:16.15 | Malachi | I feel like my copying/pasting of variables has created a hidden error |
| 04:16.22 | Malachi | I might just have to redefine these new variables or something |
| 04:18.59 | grim001 | so now I'm trying to invent some generic way for the preprocessor to understand the syntax of a particular line |
| 04:19.04 | grim001 | like a poor man's AST |
| 04:19.13 | grim001 | but just one line at a time |
| 04:22.22 | Shawn|Rawr | If I could, I'd have sex with the map editor. Who's with me? |
| 04:23.58 | Griffith` | i'm not but i'd have sex with you |
| 04:36.45 | Bounty | You know how i know im an American? |
| 04:37.02 | Bounty | I'm eating eating Ranch Doritos and dipping them into Ranch dip |
| 04:39.48 | grim001 | Malachi: it means you have declared a global variable with the same name twice |
| 04:42.52 | Malachi | grim001, but... I didn't :< |
| 04:43.37 | grim001 | you're using only GUI? |
| 04:43.59 | Malachi | Yeah. |
| 04:44.04 | Malachi | I think it's just a gui glitch |
| 04:44.15 | grim001 | doesn't surprise me if you copy and pasted |
| 04:44.27 | grim001 | it probably just used the same code with the same globals behind the scenes |
| 04:44.33 | grim001 | which would obviously cause a duplicate global |
| 04:46.17 | Shawn|Rawr | Who wants to move to georgia with me? |
| 04:46.36 | Dryeyece | LoL @ Bounty |
| 04:50.55 | Shawn|Rawr | DEMO!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:56.27 | Bounty | Is it possible to have a unit attack and move at the same time? animation wise |
| 04:57.03 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes |
| 04:57.04 | Shawn|Rawr | Wait |
| 04:57.06 | Shawn|Rawr | What? |
| 04:57.20 | Bounty | yes or no! >< |
| 04:57.27 | Lilianna | Square! |
| 04:57.27 | Bounty | example |
| 04:57.30 | Shawn|Rawr | If you mean "Attack animation while his legs are moving" then no |
| 04:57.34 | Bounty | a marine is walking |
| 04:57.35 | Bounty | ok then |
| 04:57.36 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:57.38 | Bounty | hmm |
| 04:57.41 | Bounty | HMMM |
| 04:57.44 | Lilianna | You can only have it with turrets |
| 04:57.50 | Bounty | what about WoW models? |
| 04:57.54 | Shawn|Rawr | I thought you meant attack animation while float-moving |
| 04:58.04 | Shawn|Rawr | I dont know about WoW |
| 04:58.07 | Shawn|Rawr | Never played it |
| 04:58.17 | Lilianna | I dont believe so Bounty |
| 04:58.35 | Bounty | well since i launched Speed-Craft today i wanna start working on my next project |
| 04:58.38 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkUFQ6HZYJk <---this |
| 04:59.08 | Bounty | do u guys think i should make it so u cant run and cast? |
| 04:59.15 | Bounty | or just deal with the animation looking meh |
| 04:59.26 | Lilianna | You would have to have a special Run-Cast animation |
| 04:59.39 | Bounty | yeah i dont see any of those in the Model Viewer |
| 04:59.46 | Shawn|Rawr | there are none |
| 04:59.55 | Bounty | also |
| 04:59.58 | Bounty | WoW spell effects |
| 05:00.04 | Bounty | can those be imported aswell? as m3? |
| 05:00.14 | Skittles | why do that anyway? Isn't mephs fightcraft or w/e it's called basically that? |
| 05:00.15 | Lilianna | the WoW models in WoW can do both, because animations can be split to local parts, and played individually, but SC2 doesnt have that capability, afaik |
| 05:00.21 | Shawn|Rawr | Afaik, those are particles and that isnt supported yet |
| 05:00.21 | Bounty | no skittles |
| 05:00.25 | Bounty | nothing like that game at all |
| 05:00.36 | Skittles | leis |
| 05:00.38 | Skittles | lies |
| 05:00.41 | Bounty | its on PSN |
| 05:00.44 | Bounty | buy it |
| 05:00.48 | Bounty | greatest fighting game ever made |
| 05:00.58 | Bounty | or just DL it as a rom lol |
| 05:01.21 | Bounty | ok so u cant import the wow spell effect models? |
| 05:01.23 | Bounty | lame |
| 05:01.28 | Shawn|Rawr | I love how no one even gets the name right |
| 05:01.37 | Shawn|Rawr | That game is so underrated |
| 05:01.43 | Bounty | what game? |
| 05:01.51 | Shawn|Rawr | "Fightcraft" |
| 05:01.53 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:01.55 | Bounty | yeah i agree |
| 05:01.55 | Shawn|Rawr | ask SmashCraft |
| 05:02.04 | Bounty | im not trying to compete with Mephs with this next project |
| 05:02.07 | Shawn|Rawr | aka* |
| 05:02.12 | Bounty | its a totally diff type of game |
| 05:02.20 | Bounty | best part? look at that camera |
| 05:02.28 | Bounty | that means my new wasd will perform flawlessly |
| 05:02.32 | Bounty | good framerates for all! |
| 05:02.39 | Shawn|Rawr | Except me |
| 05:02.43 | Bounty | nope |
| 05:02.49 | Bounty | i learned my lesson with Speed-Craft shawn |
| 05:02.52 | Bounty | i fucked up lol |
| 05:02.54 | Lilianna | Bounty, If you had a model split in two, a top half and bottom |
| 05:02.55 | Bounty | i upscaled everything |
| 05:02.58 | Bounty | instead of downscaled |
| 05:03.00 | Lilianna | you could play a cast and movement at the same time |
| 05:03.18 | Bounty | that sounds like a 3ds max thing Lili |
| 05:03.26 | Lilianna | It would be yes |
| 05:03.29 | Bounty | only thing i know how to do in 3ds max |
| 05:03.33 | Lilianna | but Im coming up with solutions |
| 05:03.36 | Bounty | is rotate WoW weapons so they attach properly |
| 05:03.41 | Bounty | yes, and i <3 u for that lol |
| 05:03.49 | Bounty | but at the same time i </3 u for delivering the bad news |
| 05:03.57 | Bounty | bc im noob at 3dsmax >< |
| 05:04.01 | Lilianna | Hehe |
| 05:04.05 | Bounty | but seriously |
| 05:04.13 | Bounty | have wow spell effects been tested? |
| 05:04.15 | Bounty | they are m2 |
| 05:04.52 | Lilianna | I know Scizot was playing with the particle import on the new 3dsm export tools |
| 05:05.10 | Lilianna | but I dont know if that has been released yet, or included in the WoWmodel viewer export |
| 05:05.15 | Lilianna | or whatever is needed for that all |
| 05:12.04 | Demo | Bounty, How bored are you!? |
| 05:12.11 | Bounty | not bored at all |
| 05:12.14 | Bounty | starting my next project |
| 05:12.15 | Demo | Super bored? |
| 05:12.22 | Demo | I think that means you want to come see my map |
| 05:12.27 | Demo | That's what I read |
| 05:13.45 | Bounty | nuh uh |
| 05:13.52 | Bounty | let me finish this model export first lol |
| 05:13.56 | Demo | FINE |
| 05:14.23 | Demo | ETA? |
| 05:15.11 | Bounty | idk |
| 05:15.14 | Bounty | not anytime soon |
| 05:15.21 | Bounty | i got a shit load of animations to go through and rename lol |
| 05:15.24 | Demo | Well isn't that just banana. |
| 05:15.45 | Demo | Wish someone would do custom models for my map! |
| 05:15.55 | Demo | or maybe I should figure out how to add some. |
| 05:19.37 | Shawn|Rawr | DEMO! You're a man! |
| 05:19.42 | Shawn|Rawr | A MAN I SAY |
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| 05:30.55 | Malachi | god damn it |
| 05:31.12 | Malachi | triggers are fucking with me |
| 05:31.37 | Malachi | ANYONE WANT TO HELP |
| 05:31.40 | Malachi | (of course you do) |
| 05:31.40 | Malachi | http://pastebin.com/pjwKLSTJ |
| 05:31.49 | Malachi | all interested parties please read this over. |
| 05:32.30 | Malachi | please explain why y is only displayed when going bottom right to top left |
| 05:32.41 | Malachi | and why x is only displayed when moving left to right |
| 05:32.55 | Malachi | and why y is only displayed when moving bottom to top |
| 05:33.07 | Malachi | it's like it doesn't allow negatives |
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| 05:35.53 | Malachi | JademusSreg, you are smart |
| 05:35.56 | Malachi | do something about this |
| 05:36.21 | Shawn|Rawr | Trying to make squares? |
| 05:36.41 | Griffith` | is it possible to make a region of the map unblinkable? |
| 05:37.09 | Griffith` | like you can't blink to a region of the map |
| 05:37.14 | Griffith` | (wihtout resorting to triggers) |
| 05:37.18 | Malachi | Yeah, Shawn|Rawr |
| 05:37.31 | Shawn|Rawr | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C08X2My1c0g |
| 05:37.38 | Shawn|Rawr | Check that out while i look |
| 05:37.53 | Shawn|Rawr | griffith, do you want to be able to walk there as well? |
| 05:38.02 | Griffith` | yes |
| 05:38.17 | Shawn|Rawr | Then.. I dont know |
| 05:38.33 | Griffith` | lol |
| 05:39.28 | Malachi | weird |
| 05:39.31 | Malachi | I fixed it... without realizing |
| 05:39.57 | Malachi | weird |
| 05:45.43 | Shawn|Rawr | I just got 3 more videos |
| 05:45.48 | Shawn|Rawr | 3 more vies* |
| 05:45.52 | Shawn|Rawr | views* |
| 05:46.02 | Shawn|Rawr | ROAR |
| 05:46.06 | Shawn|Rawr | I need a new video |
| 05:46.17 | Shawn|Rawr | Current system is much bettter |
| 05:49.44 | MrOp | anyone want to help test |
| 05:49.49 | MrOp | i need 2 players |
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| 05:55.24 | MrOp | griffith |
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| 06:04.05 | Malachi | what is the term for a graphic put directly on the ground |
| 06:04.06 | Malachi | no model |
| 06:04.27 | Malachi | an actor, if possible. Not sure how I can do this |
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| 06:36.09 | Shawn|Rawr | malachi, you mean a doodad? |
| 06:36.19 | Malachi | sigh |
| 06:36.20 | Malachi | I think |
| 06:36.25 | Shawn|Rawr | a doodad is an actor |
| 06:36.27 | Malachi | I have no idea, I gave up. Data editing is toomuch for me. |
| 06:36.36 | Malachi | I need something that conforms to the environment |
| 06:36.43 | Malachi | or better yet, hovers above it. Another interesting idea |
| 06:36.46 | Malachi | but it needs to be flat |
| 06:36.59 | Shawn|Rawr | Try terrain objects or doodads |
| 06:37.03 | Shawn|Rawr | See what happens |
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| 06:41.57 | Malachi | ugh |
| 06:42.02 | Malachi | I closed the editor |
| 06:42.18 | Malachi | I can't deal with the editor and the confusio. I don;t hav ea model and I can't make one |
| 06:42.19 | Malachi | so |
| 06:42.20 | Malachi | vOv |
| 06:56.16 | Demo | Are you done sir bounty? |
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| 07:07.05 | tordy | hello friends |
| 07:07.10 | MrOp | hi |
| 07:07.11 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 07:08.49 | Demo | Who is bored!>? |
| 07:08.59 | Demo | I need a tester! |
| 07:09.01 | Demo | Just one! |
| 07:09.47 | tordy | if i could |
| 07:09.48 | tordy | ! |
| 07:09.48 | tordy | i'd test |
| 07:10.03 | Demo | If you could waht? |
| 07:13.14 | JademusSreg | Test what? |
| 07:17.16 | Demo | My map |
| 07:17.28 | Demo | Tactics style turn based strategy |
| 07:18.01 | tordy | turned based you say |
| 07:18.06 | Demo | Yes |
| 07:18.09 | JademusSreg | I like the sound of it. |
| 07:18.13 | JademusSreg | I'm in. |
| 07:18.16 | JademusSreg | I love that shit. |
| 07:18.24 | Demo | I'm getting to the minor things |
| 07:18.26 | Demo | the UI stuff |
| 07:18.29 | Demo | that people demand |
| 07:18.38 | Demo | I'm in sc2mapster |
| 07:18.45 | JademusSreg | You're aware of how critical I am, yes? |
| 07:18.46 | Demo | I want to test the opening cinematic |
| 07:18.54 | Demo | You can be as critical as you want |
| 07:19.00 | JademusSreg | Alright. =D |
| 07:19.37 | JademusSreg | After I criticized some person's map one time, he thought afterward that I hated him or something. That was a weird mapnight. |
| 07:19.48 | Demo | The way I look at it |
| 07:20.12 | Demo | is any criticism is nice, because I only have to take what I want from it. |
| 07:20.25 | JademusSreg | Let me know when you're ready. |
| 07:20.28 | Demo | I am |
| 07:20.30 | Demo | just waiting on you |
| 07:20.49 | Demo | Unless you have a different sc2 name |
| 07:21.23 | JademusSreg | JademusSreg.950 |
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| 07:22.35 | tordy | not any criticism |
| 07:22.45 | tordy | any constructive criticism is nice! |
| 07:22.48 | tordy | :] |
| 07:25.55 | MrOp | tordy can you help test my map please |
| 07:25.58 | MrOp | and anyone else |
| 07:26.02 | MrOp | i need 3 |
| 07:26.09 | MrOp | DEMO |
| 07:26.11 | MrOp | OMG |
| 07:26.13 | tordy | first you need to watch lions eat a man: |
| 07:26.13 | tordy | http://www.todaysbigthing.com/cute-animals/2011/03/15 |
| 07:26.20 | Demo | I am in the middle of testing my map sir |
| 07:26.26 | MrOp | (_ _) |
| 07:26.31 | MrOp | shawn needs to talk to you |
| 07:26.55 | MrOp | tordy yo ucoming |
| 07:27.24 | Demo | shawn nneeds to talk to me? |
| 07:28.50 | MrOp | yea |
| 07:28.52 | MrOp | tordy |
| 07:28.58 | MrOp | i have 3 can you come please |
| 07:28.58 | tordy | what |
| 07:29.07 | MrOp | i need your help with a test |
| 07:29.10 | MrOp | ^^ |
| 07:29.16 | MrOp | well anyone else too |
| 07:29.20 | MrOp | but i need 4 |
| 07:29.22 | MrOp | i have 3 |
| 07:29.57 | tordy | sry bout that |
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| 07:46.53 | MTops | good morning |
| 08:04.54 | JademusSreg | Good test. |
| 08:05.15 | JademusSreg | Hi MTops. |
| 08:05.27 | MTops | woohoo, someone's alive :) |
| 08:05.29 | JademusSreg | I read you're working on a massive AI? |
| 08:05.35 | MTops | yeah |
| 08:05.46 | MTops | where did you read that? just curious :) |
| 08:05.52 | JademusSreg | Care to elaborate? |
| 08:06.00 | JademusSreg | In grim's preprocessor topic. |
| 08:06.26 | MTops | ok |
| 08:06.32 | MTops | I have completely rewritten the AI scripts |
| 08:06.41 | Demo | TY btw jade |
| 08:06.45 | MTops | with the goal to make the AI more humanlike |
| 08:07.00 | JademusSreg | No problem Demo. I love turn based strategy. |
| 08:07.09 | MTops | instead of the basic "i throw units at your front door" approach of the blizz ai |
| 08:07.46 | JademusSreg | Human like in what capacity? Strategize, unit retention, goal oriented behavior? |
| 08:08.05 | MTops | my AI will use medivacs to drop marines in your mineral line, or use nydus worms to attack from an unexpected angle |
| 08:08.21 | JademusSreg | Smart targetting, nice. |
| 08:08.37 | JademusSreg | Some of the more sophisticated SC1 AIs managed that. |
| 08:08.41 | MTops | and also make humanlike mistakes on lower difficulty settings |
| 08:08.45 | MTops | not just build less units |
| 08:08.49 | JademusSreg | But SC1 AIs were still pretty crap. |
| 08:09.04 | MTops | but also letting macro slip, forgetting to use micro abilities |
| 08:09.18 | MTops | not having enough attention to do everything at the same time |
| 08:09.26 | MTops | not building units while attacking for example |
| 08:09.34 | JademusSreg | Well, at least you're not one of those "perfect play" pipedream people. =) |
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| 08:10.26 | JademusSreg | Developing a perfect play AI for SC2 would be ridiculous. |
| 08:10.30 | MTops | heh, of course i would like to reproduce master level play when setting the AI on insane :) |
| 08:10.43 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I can understand that. =) |
| 08:10.44 | MTops | and my AI doesn't cheat |
| 08:11.09 | JademusSreg | Demo, I'd really suggest taking the time to learn galaxy. |
| 08:11.25 | JademusSreg | Just tinkering with shit at first, of course. |
| 08:11.39 | Demo | Is there a place in which it outlines things |
| 08:11.44 | Demo | I mean like I said before |
| 08:11.50 | Demo | I don't even know how to access galaxy |
| 08:11.52 | JademusSreg | Syntax highlighting? |
| 08:12.01 | Demo | no |
| 08:12.03 | MTops | unit micro, like focus firing the low health target, or marauders targetting roaches instead of zerglings... or advancing a little if there are friendlies that can't reach the target |
| 08:12.09 | Demo | I mean like outlines how to use galaxy |
| 08:12.17 | JademusSreg | The editor provides shitty syntax highlighting, and these are also highlighters for notepad++. |
| 08:12.23 | JademusSreg | Oh. |
| 08:12.26 | JademusSreg | Like a tutorial. |
| 08:12.35 | Demo | Yes |
| 08:13.04 | JademusSreg | Dunno. You can always View Map Script in the trigger editor to see what GUI compiles to, how shit gets sorted, and such. |
| 08:13.26 | JademusSreg | Starting a new galaxy script in-editor is as easy as New -> Custom Script |
| 08:13.48 | JademusSreg | This time around, they included a line for initializing a function. |
| 08:14.12 | JademusSreg | Anyway, do you have any programming experience? |
| 08:14.31 | JademusSreg | If not, I would be woefully unprepared to explain everything. |
| 08:14.35 | Demo | If you count programming a TI 83 |
| 08:14.44 | Demo | I have a programmers brain |
| 08:14.49 | Demo | without the knowledge of functions |
| 08:15.34 | JademusSreg | int AddSomeShit (int shit1, int shit2) { return (shit1 + shit2); } |
| 08:15.48 | JademusSreg | There's a function. =D |
| 08:16.49 | JademusSreg | Besides, if you've programmed in a calculator, you're already using functions. |
| 08:17.24 | JademusSreg | For instance, to draw a line in the graph, you're writing the contents of a function. |
| 08:18.32 | JademusSreg | Functions perform operations, may or may not take arguments, and may or may not return a value. |
| 08:19.21 | JademusSreg | Or rather, explicitly, in C-like languages, a function returns a value, including void for no return value. |
| 08:19.28 | MTops | taking a look at existing code is the best way for me to learn a language |
| 08:19.33 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 08:19.44 | JademusSreg | You look at code, learn to tinker with it gradually. |
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| 08:20.29 | grim001 | cool, public prefix works now, although the code is ugly. |
| 08:20.31 | Demo | I'm sure I could pick it up |
| 08:20.38 | Demo | but maybe as my next project |
| 08:20.39 | MTops | hey grim! |
| 08:20.41 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 08:20.48 | grim001 | hi MTops |
| 08:21.04 | MTops | you said on the forums there was a method to check the syntax of galaxy files |
| 08:21.21 | JademusSreg | Demo, I'd suggest learning it, no rush, and when you do, you'll find yourself approaching solutions to problems in new ways. |
| 08:21.44 | Demo | I'm sure it would have taken me half the time it did for some of these actions |
| 08:21.50 | grim001 | yeah, just a minute |
| 08:22.35 | Demo | for instance |
| 08:22.35 | Demo | http://pastebin.com/Fm6Kh9dU |
| 08:22.42 | Demo | that is the ghosts move range |
| 08:22.51 | Demo | thats what it runs to find out where the ghost can move |
| 08:23.14 | JademusSreg | I can't read that stuff. I'd get a hemorrhage. |
| 08:24.09 | Demo | That's just it |
| 08:24.12 | JademusSreg | Last night, before I went to bed, I was wonder what would happen if you used a type other than int in the magic value bug. |
| 08:24.17 | Demo | It's overly complex |
| 08:24.31 | Demo | and I can't remember even how it works |
| 08:24.35 | Demo | all I know is that it works now |
| 08:24.52 | JademusSreg | Yeah, that's a bad sign, Demo. =D |
| 08:25.08 | Demo | Well I had to make it so you couldn't just move througb opponents units |
| 08:25.14 | JademusSreg | That's a Tech Priest way of thinking. |
| 08:25.50 | Demo | OH well |
| 08:25.53 | Demo | I'm triyng to fix those bugs |
| 08:26.07 | Demo | but the problem is I always need someone else to test them |
| 08:26.53 | JademusSreg | (Refering to the technological and scientific stagnation of the Imperium of Man in Warhammer 40k, and to a lesser extent, the religious technicians in the Foundation series.) |
| 08:27.20 | tordy | sup duddes |
| 08:27.22 | tordy | duddettes |
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| 08:27.46 | Demo | anyways, off to program a bunch of stuff I want implemented |
| 08:28.32 | tordy | ;[ |
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| 08:31.31 | JademusSreg | now that I've got my morning reading done, time to terrain,. |
| 08:32.17 | m4ng3 | HELLO |
| 08:33.07 | m4ng3 | Admin is it ok if i give away some keys? |
| 08:33.18 | MrOp_ | oO |
| 08:33.24 | MrOp_ | what keys |
| 08:33.36 | grim001 | MTops |
| 08:33.38 | m4ng3 | does it matter? |
| 08:33.49 | MTops | yeah |
| 08:33.52 | MTops | why is your name in red? |
| 08:33.55 | MrOp_ | well i think your in the wrong chat |
| 08:34.03 | grim001 | my name is red? |
| 08:34.15 | MTops | i think when you type my name |
| 08:34.19 | MTops | grim001 |
| 08:34.26 | grim001 | depends on your IRC client |
| 08:34.27 | MTops | i dunno |
| 08:34.34 | MTops | i'm using the webclient :) |
| 08:34.42 | grim001 | anyway |
| 08:34.44 | MTops | anyway, go ahead :D |
| 08:34.44 | m4ng3 | Anyone want Kaspersky INternet Security 2011 keys? |
| 08:35.04 | grim001 | The first thing you have to do is start saving your maps as .SC2Components rather than .SC2Map, have you tried that before? |
| 08:35.14 | MTops | i'm not using the editor |
| 08:35.29 | grim001 | you need to use the editor at least once if you want to syntax check |
| 08:35.36 | MTops | ok |
| 08:36.03 | grim001 | so, save a map as .SC2Components and it becomes a folder instead of an MPQ. |
| 08:36.28 | grim001 | you can see all of the components, you just can't be messing with them when the editor tries to access them or it won't be able to read the file. |
| 08:36.40 | grim001 | in fact, you can't even have that directory open in windows or it won't be able to read the script. |
| 08:37.58 | MTops | ok |
| 08:38.01 | grim001 | so, take your .galaxy scripts and place them within the map directory, or you can create your own subdirectory for the scripts. |
| 08:38.22 | MTops | the editor has placed them, because I imported them in the editor |
| 08:38.52 | grim001 | next, create a single custom script trigger, and use import "ScriptName" or import "SubDir\ScriptName" |
| 08:39.23 | grim001 | it would also be a good idea to specify an initializer function at the bottom of the trigger, otherwise none of your code will actually run. |
| 08:39.35 | MTops | I don't have experience with making triggers... do I select New Trigger or New Custom Script |
| 08:39.37 | MTops | ? |
| 08:39.58 | grim001 | oh, you're doing this as I speak? |
| 08:40.00 | MrOp_ | night all |
| 08:40.02 | MTops | yes |
| 08:40.04 | grim001 | yes, use New Custom Script |
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| 08:41.02 | MTops | how do I do the import you suggested? |
| 08:41.21 | grim001 | did you place a .galaxy file within the MapName.SC2Map directory? |
| 08:41.39 | MTops | it's in MapName.SC2Map/TriggerLibs/ |
| 08:41.54 | grim001 | well you can use TriggerLibs if you want but you don't have to |
| 08:42.01 | grim001 | in that case, you would type |
| 08:42.07 | m4ng3 | Anyone want Kaspersky INternet Security 2011 keys? |
| 08:42.14 | m4ng3 | for free? |
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| 08:42.34 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 08:42.38 | grim001 | import "TriggerLibs\ScriptName" without the .galaxy extension |
| 08:42.40 | m4ng3 | k |
| 08:42.41 | m4ng3 | cya |
| 08:42.53 | grim001 | use as many imports as you want, and each of them will be imported in order |
| 08:43.08 | grim001 | however, I do not suggest that you use import within your .galaxy files, it'll cause bugs. |
| 08:43.11 | MTops | in the import window? |
| 08:43.21 | grim001 | no, in the custom script text area. |
| 08:43.27 | JademusSreg | I'll be away, I'm watching SGU on VLC while running a scan. |
| 08:43.28 | MTops | ah |
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| 08:44.02 | grim001 | once you've put that in there, try saving the map and see what happens |
| 08:44.02 | MTops | ok, then what |
| 08:44.07 | MTops | k |
| 08:44.22 | grim001 | if you have the directory open in windows, it'll fail to read the script. |
| 08:44.30 | grim001 | any directory from the map. |
| 08:44.41 | MTops | syntax error |
| 08:44.48 | MTops | oh |
| 08:44.48 | MTops | hah |
| 08:44.50 | MTops | k, one sec |
| 08:45.19 | MTops | same syntax error |
| 08:45.25 | grim001 | what is the syntax error? |
| 08:45.29 | MTops | you sure it's "import" and not "include"? |
| 08:45.40 | grim001 | it's include |
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| 08:46.31 | MTops | illegal escape sequence |
| 08:46.43 | MTops | doh, wrong slash |
| 08:46.44 | grim001 | copy and paste in what you types |
| 08:46.45 | grim001 | *typed |
| 08:46.46 | MTops | one sec |
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| 08:47.29 | MTops | yahoo!! it detected my manually created syntax error!!! |
| 08:47.36 | grim001 | good |
| 08:47.38 | MTops | awesome! |
| 08:47.59 | grim001 | try using Data --> View Script |
| 08:48.12 | grim001 | and press the big green Compile All button |
| 08:48.17 | grim001 | whenever you want to check for syntax errors |
| 08:48.22 | Deaod | errr, dont you have to use a slash for separating directories in import statements? |
| 08:48.23 | grim001 | it's a bit faster and more reliable than saving |
| 08:48.39 | MTops | include "TriggerLibs\Computer" didn't work |
| 08:48.45 | MTops | had to use include "TriggerLibs/Computer" |
| 08:48.56 | Deaod | thats what i meant. |
| 08:48.56 | MTops | yes! thanks a bunch! |
| 08:49.10 | grim001 | did you try it with View Script? |
| 08:49.14 | MTops | yup |
| 08:49.16 | grim001 | in my experience it's more reliable |
| 08:49.17 | MTops | works like a charm |
| 08:49.25 | grim001 | sometimes saving doesn't detect syntax errors |
| 08:49.34 | grim001 | now, you can even test your map without re-saving it |
| 08:49.37 | grim001 | and it will use updated code. |
| 08:49.54 | grim001 | furthermore, you can leave SC2 open in the background and maps will load for testing much more quickly. |
| 08:49.57 | MTops | just overwrite the galaxy files in the .SC2Map dir I guess |
| 08:50.15 | grim001 | well |
| 08:50.24 | grim001 | if you use Notepad++, you can have your scripts open |
| 08:50.32 | grim001 | and it won't interfere with the editor reading them |
| 08:50.59 | grim001 | so you can simply save document, alt tab, test |
| 08:51.00 | MTops | heh, so you can develop right from the .SC2Map dir, you mean |
| 08:51.12 | grim001 | yes |
| 08:51.15 | MTops | true |
| 08:51.22 | grim001 | it's a bit of a pain because you have to make sure the folder stays closed |
| 08:51.32 | MTops | but I'm developing from the SC2AllIn1\ai\ dir because that's the launcher I use to test the AI |
| 08:51.35 | grim001 | and it also has a tendency to eat your script files if it doesn't like them |
| 08:51.39 | grim001 | so I suggest making backups |
| 08:51.51 | MTops | but this is still awesome |
| 08:52.08 | grim001 | my preprocessor will avoid this issue by allowing you to keep your script files wherever you want, and putting the compiled .galaxy file into the .SC2Map dir |
| 08:52.30 | MTops | you have no idea how many hours I spend digging through recent changes, abusing the undo and redo feature, to find stupid mistakes |
| 08:52.43 | MTops | will it also detect class mismatches? |
| 08:52.48 | grim001 | I was not even going to bother modding SC2 until I figured out that this was possible |
| 08:52.59 | grim001 | class mismatches? |
| 08:53.11 | MTops | YES IT DOES |
| 08:53.13 | MTops | woohoo |
| 08:53.39 | MTops | you give a function that expects an int as an argument something else |
| 08:54.11 | grim001 | type mismatches? |
| 08:54.21 | MTops | yeah, that's what I mean |
| 08:54.34 | MTops | "Parameter type does not match function defenition" |
| 08:54.52 | MTops | brb |
| 08:58.06 | MTops | back |
| 08:58.34 | grim001 | i wonder if my preprocessor can parse your code for function definitions and add them to the notepad++ autocompletion file |
| 08:58.39 | grim001 | that'd be fun |
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| 09:00.54 | MTops | that would be nice, yes |
| 09:01.43 | MTops | now if you'll excuse me, i would like to run a few more test runs before the big battle.net release today :) |
| 09:02.08 | grim001 | cya around then |
| 09:02.38 | MTops | i'll keep the window open, so you can grab my attention by typing my name |
| 09:02.45 | MTops | the web client makes a sound when someone does that :) |
| 09:04.14 | grim001 | cool, I just confirmed that it's possible. Notepad++ uses the updated autocomplete file instantly if you change it while the program is running |
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| 09:04.57 | grim001 | so all the preprocessor would need is the path to your Notepad++ installation and it could add entries. |
| 09:05.40 | grim001 | question is when to add them and when to remove them. it could get polluted very fast if every single function you ever generate is added. |
| 09:06.25 | grim001 | perhaps just the ones from the last time you compiled a script should be available. |
| 09:07.27 | MTops | why would you not add a function? if you have so many functions it "pollutes" the autocompletion, there is probably another problem |
| 09:07.57 | grim001 | because scripts change all the time, and you don't necessarily want every version of every function you've ever compiled to be there permanently. |
| 09:08.21 | grim001 | plus, it'd be more beneficial to only see stuff you can actually call at the moment, being part of the same compiled script. |
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| 09:10.05 | MTops | oh no, of course |
| 09:10.26 | furymonkey | anyone know how do i check certin catalog field exists? |
| 09:10.31 | furymonkey | using trigger |
| 09:10.36 | MTops | it should rebuild the auto completion file once in a while to remove the now obsolete function definitions |
| 09:10.58 | grim001 | it can rebuild it every time you compilea script without too much effort |
| 09:11.31 | MTops | sorry, monkey, I know the galaxy function call, but I have never worked with triggers |
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| 09:13.47 | grim001 | Deaod, I just determined that I can update Notepad++'s autocompletion file to include the functions you're currently working with every time you compile a script. |
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| 09:14.02 | Deaod | doesnt notepad++ also have a function list? |
| 09:14.10 | furymonkey | need a general direction and maybe i can firgure it out, i dont even know what is "scope"in catalog |
| 09:14.13 | grim001 | I don't know how to make it display if it does |
| 09:14.18 | Deaod | hrm |
| 09:14.26 | Deaod | its a plugin, i believe |
| 09:14.27 | Deaod | meh |
| 09:14.56 | grim001 | i'll try it out |
| 09:15.31 | Deaod | last i tried it uses regexes to detect function declarations |
| 09:16.12 | MTops | i'm using the functionlist plugin |
| 09:16.53 | MTops | it's not configured properly though... it also includes all the global variable declarations and "include" lines |
| 09:18.17 | grim001 | why doesnt it just read from the autocomplete file? |
| 09:19.03 | MTops | because my autocomplete file only includes the functions that are native, it doesn't have any of the functions I wrote myself |
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| 09:20.17 | furymonkey | MTops, can you give me the function call to check whever a field exist? |
| 09:20.26 | MTops | sure |
| 09:20.57 | grim001 | meh, I suppose that'd be the reason, but now I want it to simply use the autocomplete file... |
| 09:21.04 | grim001 | maybe there's some way to force it to |
| 09:21.11 | MTops | native bool CatalogEntryIsValid (int catalog, string entry); |
| 09:21.59 | furymonkey | that's just check if a entry exists isnt it? not the field |
| 09:22.59 | MTops | right, sec please |
| 09:24.48 | JademusSreg | Fun episode. |
| 09:25.00 | MTops | not really a field validation check |
| 09:25.02 | MTops | but you can use |
| 09:25.15 | MTops | native string CatalogFieldType (string scope, string field); |
| 09:25.18 | JademusSreg | Seems I missed a bunch of fun stuff here too. |
| 09:26.06 | furymonkey | k thx alot |
| 09:26.19 | furymonkey | but i think that will still bring up in game error if such field doesn't exist |
| 09:27.12 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 09:27.25 | MTops | there is also a scope field count and scope field get by index |
| 09:27.29 | JademusSreg | Because galaxy doesn't have anything like Try or error handling. |
| 09:27.38 | MTops | you could use that to see if the desired field is in the scope |
| 09:27.52 | QueenGambit | who wants to help test my music map? |
| 09:28.04 | furymonkey | thanks alot |
| 09:28.28 | grim001 | cool, if I try to configure the Function List plugin, Notepad++ crashes |
| 09:28.52 | JademusSreg | Queen, do you have any screenshots of your map? |
| 09:29.57 | QueenGambit | sure |
| 09:30.17 | QueenGambit | well its not really appealing |
| 09:30.25 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 09:30.28 | QueenGambit | u'll have to try it to experience it |
| 09:30.42 | QueenGambit | interested? |
| 09:30.46 | JademusSreg | I'm running a scan; I can't do much of anything at the moment. |
| 09:30.51 | QueenGambit | k |
| 09:31.21 | grim001 | well that Function List plugin is lame. |
| 09:31.51 | MTops | write a better one ;) |
| 09:31.52 | MTops | please :D |
| 09:32.17 | JademusSreg | srsly |
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| 09:45.15 | Skittles | hihi |
| 09:45.21 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 09:45.39 | grim001 | Meh, a function list isn't so important if you've got that autocomplete drop-down box. |
| 09:45.50 | JademusSreg | Heh. |
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| 09:47.03 | grim001 | just enable auto completion from the first letter |
| 09:47.17 | grim001 | if you don't know the first letter of what you're looking for, you probably wouldn't find it in a function list either |
| 09:47.20 | JademusSreg | Yah. |
| 09:47.27 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 09:50.15 | JademusSreg | Fucking scans, argh. |
| 09:50.21 | JademusSreg | Taking forever. |
| 09:51.31 | JademusSreg | Earlier, I noticed a rundll process running somewhere it shouldn't. >=[ |
| 09:54.27 | grim001 | I'm trying to think of a prettier and more generic way to parse for syntax. |
| 09:55.01 | JademusSreg | Not using delimiters? Or are you talking about the guts, so to speak? |
| 09:55.59 | MTops | i use the function list to easily find the implementation, not the definition |
| 10:00.32 | grim001 | I guess I need to define various categories of syntax for word groups |
| 10:01.00 | grim001 | then make a function that takes an array full of words and outputs an array full of the syntax categories of those words. |
| 10:01.34 | grim001 | then in the command I can simply check if you've used some sort of valid syntax permutation |
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| 10:08.17 | JademusSreg | More than an hour wasted on scanning. Damn. |
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| 10:19.14 | JademusSreg | Woo, the magic number bug made front page. <3 |
| 10:19.50 | MTops | can you convert a private published map to a public one? |
| 10:19.57 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
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| 10:20.17 | JademusSreg | By publishing it as Public. =) |
| 10:20.21 | Demo | So Jade |
| 10:20.29 | MTops | you need to republish it |
| 10:20.38 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 10:20.46 | Demo | Would you mind joining and just choosing a bunch of units then putting them on the front line for me |
| 10:20.47 | Demo | ? |
| 10:20.53 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 10:20.58 | JademusSreg | I'm not doing anything atm. |
| 10:21.00 | Demo | Have my debug set up |
| 10:21.05 | Demo | so I can possibly figure this out |
| 10:21.14 | MTops | meh, it will update the version number to 1.1 |
| 10:21.18 | MTops | i don't want that |
| 10:21.26 | MTops | and if I remove the old one, the name gets blocked |
| 10:21.46 | Demo | Version numbers really don't matter |
| 10:21.49 | JademusSreg | Hm. Try Manage Published, see if there is an option there. |
| 10:21.51 | Demo | they are relative |
| 10:22.06 | JademusSreg | v1.11 isn't so bad. |
| 10:22.09 | JademusSreg | =) |
| 10:22.25 | Demo | I had a map get to v 1.99 before it got confused |
| 10:22.30 | Demo | and just didn't go any higher |
| 10:22.42 | Skittles | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzu1syjt80E&feature=player_embedded |
| 10:23.00 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 10:23.55 | MTops | no option to convert private -> public... :( |
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| 10:30.48 | MTops | ok this is weird |
| 10:31.11 | MTops | when I try my Xel'Naga map on battle.net I can make myself a spectator, but if I try my delta quadrant map, i can't |
| 10:31.17 | MTops | any ideas on why? |
| 10:38.53 | grim001 | convert private -> public? |
| 10:40.24 | MTops | that's it? you can't spectate a private map? |
| 10:40.43 | MTops | sounds logical now I say it though |
| 10:40.55 | MTops | Blizz didn't really think about custom AI maps |
| 10:41.10 | JademusSreg | <3 |
| 10:41.14 | MTops | but... |
| 10:41.23 | MTops | i could spectate my xel'naga map before I made it public |
| 10:41.32 | Demo | So the camera work fine for you jade? |
| 10:42.04 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 10:42.10 | Demo | k thanks again |
| 10:42.16 | JademusSreg | I felt the transition was like 2 seconds too slow. |
| 10:42.25 | JademusSreg | But it was good. |
| 10:42.38 | Demo | I can remove the transition |
| 10:42.46 | Demo | it is at 2 seconds |
| 10:42.49 | JademusSreg | I was hoping for something snappy like FFT camera transitions. |
| 10:43.00 | Demo | but anyways,guess how long it took me to fix that bug? |
| 10:43.15 | JademusSreg | Those took a fraction of a second, felt good just to shift back and forth. |
| 10:43.22 | Demo | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:43.27 | Demo | Theres why |
| 10:43.29 | Demo | my units are p3 |
| 10:43.31 | Demo | yours are p4 |
| 10:43.34 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 10:43.34 | Demo | there is no action for p4 |
| 10:43.40 | Demo | Soooooo |
| 10:43.54 | JademusSreg | You should try functions sometimes. |
| 10:44.03 | JademusSreg | Or Actions. |
| 10:44.26 | JademusSreg | It would reduce a lot of the redundancy. |
| 10:46.14 | Demo | You know what doesn't make sense |
| 10:46.19 | Demo | There was a p4 |
| 10:46.19 | Demo | ... |
| 10:46.22 | Demo | so now I'm baffled |
| 10:49.59 | Demo | WTB being two players at one |
| 10:50.01 | Demo | time |
| 10:51.31 | MTops | haha |
| 10:51.39 | MTops | just got my butt handed to me by my own AI |
| 10:52.07 | Demo | lol one of my triggers takes 51 seconds to run :) |
| 10:52.10 | Demo | 51000 ms |
| 10:53.59 | JademusSreg | Wow. |
| 10:54.10 | JademusSreg | That is crazy, Demo. |
| 10:54.19 | JademusSreg | MTops, that's a good sign. |
| 10:54.26 | Demo | Yeah, figured out why though |
| 10:54.29 | Demo | so that's fixed |
| 10:54.35 | MTops | i'm not the best player though :D |
| 10:54.43 | Demo | FEI 1-44 with a wait of 1 |
| 10:54.51 | Demo | for each integer* |
| 10:58.00 | JademusSreg | MTops, I am positively terrible. |
| 10:58.02 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 11:01.55 | grim001 | Demo, FEI? |
| 11:02.06 | Demo | for each integer :) |
| 11:02.18 | Demo | I had a trigger |
| 11:02.20 | grim001 | why do you need a wait of 1 for each? |
| 11:02.26 | grim001 | you could do it all without any break |
| 11:02.31 | Demo | right |
| 11:02.31 | grim001 | without coming close to oplimit.. |
| 11:02.36 | Demo | it was a wait in the wrong spot |
| 11:02.39 | Demo | it was in the actions |
| 11:02.52 | Demo | rather than in the if then statement |
| 11:02.58 | Demo | I got it, it's fine :) |
| 11:03.48 | grim001 | any of you ever used autoit? |
| 11:03.51 | grim001 | it's fun |
| 11:04.01 | JademusSreg | I have not. |
| 11:04.53 | MTops | ok, now let the world know somehow |
| 11:05.06 | MTops | EagleAI maps have been uploaded to Battle.Net and are ready for play! |
| 11:06.44 | grim001 | what is it? a different AI to play against in melee style maps? |
| 11:06.51 | Demo | So once I finally finish this beast of a map |
| 11:06.58 | Demo | how does make popular? |
| 11:07.09 | Demo | Make a kick ass youtube vid? |
| 11:07.42 | Demo | Are you there jade? |
| 11:08.12 | MTops | yeah, a better AI compared to Blizzard's AI that comes with the game |
| 11:08.23 | MTops | plus, a more fun one |
| 11:08.27 | MTops | it's more human like |
| 11:08.44 | Demo | What do you think of the following: Save/Load selections -up to 3. Save/Load Formations 3 per loaded selection per map |
| 11:08.52 | Demo | JademusSreg ^^ |
| 11:09.32 | Demo | You can save your favorite selections, load them for the next game you play, and you have 3 formations for each selection that you can save, on each map |
| 11:09.43 | Demo | for a total of 45 setups :( |
| 11:10.05 | Demo | or should I just do 3 selections, and a last used formation for each map |
| 11:10.42 | JademusSreg | I'm here. |
| 11:10.51 | Demo | :) I text ranted |
| 11:11.28 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 11:11.34 | JademusSreg | It's an interesting idea. |
| 11:11.39 | JademusSreg | Worth a try. |
| 11:11.57 | Demo | A lot of banks |
| 11:12.06 | JademusSreg | Saves people time forming team composition. |
| 11:12.16 | JademusSreg | Naw, a lot of entries for one bank. |
| 11:12.52 | JademusSreg | In fact, 3 entries, tops, if you preformat the data in string form and parse the contents. |
| 11:12.57 | Demo | well.. 10 units in a possible 49 spots to put them |
| 11:13.17 | Demo | I'm a nub when it comes to stuff like that |
| 11:13.34 | Demo | I have the units converted to a double digit integer |
| 11:13.43 | Demo | then the points are referenced |
| 11:13.44 | Demo | atm |
| 11:13.55 | Demo | i.e. point 01 is unit 12 |
| 11:14.04 | Demo | and it goes down the list filling the points |
| 11:16.50 | Demo | I dunno, I like the idea of different arenas, but this would be so simple if they didn't have holes |
| 11:17.00 | Demo | because you could just have a formation that is saved |
| 11:17.04 | Demo | and if you want to change it you can |
| 11:21.31 | JademusSreg | It'd be much easier to format them as strings. |
| 11:22.02 | JademusSreg | [u],[x],[y]; |
| 11:22.27 | JademusSreg | "01,10,5;03,10,6" |
| 11:22.31 | JademusSreg | And such. |
| 11:22.56 | JademusSreg | Saves on bank spacwe. |
| 11:23.14 | JademusSreg | Of course, you'd just need to make something to parse the strings. |
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| 11:24.47 | Demo | yar |
| 11:30.23 | Demo | alright |
| 11:30.34 | Demo | so I have it set to clear selection by clicking any non colored tile |
| 11:31.03 | Demo | however |
| 11:31.07 | Demo | if you already moved with a unit |
| 11:31.09 | Demo | or attacked |
| 11:31.10 | Demo | you cannot clear |
| 11:31.12 | Demo | also |
| 11:31.17 | Demo | that bug with the archon |
| 11:31.19 | Demo | has been fixed |
| 11:31.34 | Demo | now just to make sure I've fixed the -90 bug |
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| 11:33.36 | Dogmai | ~seen onetwo |
| 11:33.42 | purl | onetwo <ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 9h 23m 15s ago, saying: 'today'. |
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| 11:34.01 | Dogmai | ~seen helral|work |
| 11:34.02 | purl | helral|work <~BenZegvel@217-19-29-249.dsl.cambrium.nl> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 21h 25m 47s ago, saying: '[15:08] <Clord> actually that is over 7 minutes wrong <-- 8 actually'. |
| 11:34.26 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 11:34.57 | Demo | Is there any one lackey that I could use 1 minute of their time!? |
| 11:35.23 | Demo | Just want to check a specific bug in my map. Take no time at all! |
| 11:35.27 | JademusSreg | I am hardly a lackey, but I can assist. |
| 11:35.32 | Demo | :) |
| 11:35.43 | Demo | I figured I'd try to find someone else as you have been helping a bit |
| 11:35.53 | Demo | If you are willing, I shall pay thanks to you good sir |
| 11:35.54 | Dogmai | ugh |
| 11:35.56 | Dogmai | what server |
| 11:36.15 | Demo | NA |
| 11:36.17 | Demo | but sec |
| 11:36.22 | Demo | forgot to publish for no reason... |
| 11:36.53 | Dogmai | dogmai.765 |
| 11:37.10 | JademusSreg | I'm on. |
| 11:37.28 | Demo | The jade has come, I appreciate it though dog |
| 11:38.27 | Dogmai | np |
| 11:49.27 | JademusSreg | Yep. That's what I thought. |
| 11:49.37 | Demo | ? |
| 11:49.50 | JademusSreg | The module of 360/-90 is 270. |
| 11:49.56 | JademusSreg | *modulo |
| 11:49.57 | Demo | yes |
| 11:50.03 | Demo | That's what I am setting -90 to |
| 11:50.15 | Demo | it works for my units, but not yours :/ |
| 11:51.02 | Demo | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:51.06 | Demo | Those are the conditions |
| 11:51.20 | Demo | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:51.24 | Demo | those are the actions |
| 11:51.29 | Demo | I know GUI isn't your friend |
| 11:52.18 | Demo | last time I checked -90 was def inbetween -45 adn -135 |
| 11:52.36 | JademusSreg | -90 deg == 270 deg. I don't think I grasp the problem. |
| 11:53.03 | Demo | The problem is that my block triggers run off of 270 |
| 11:53.22 | Demo | the amount of time it would take to change them all to -90 is just absurd |
| 11:53.29 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 11:53.40 | Demo | when it should just be possible to if -90 save variable as 270 |
| 11:53.51 | Demo | which it is doing for me, but not for p2 |
| 11:54.29 | Demo | yet again for what I believe to be no reason |
| 11:56.44 | A1win | durp |
| 11:56.58 | Demo | I agree |
| 11:57.25 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 11:57.28 | A1win | when I needed to compare angles, I made a function that converted all angles between 0 and 360 to make things easy |
| 11:58.37 | JademusSreg | Modulo. |
| 11:58.40 | JademusSreg | =P |
| 11:58.55 | JademusSreg | ModF(360,x) |
| 11:59.06 | A1win | mmh right :> |
| 12:00.29 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 12:00.40 | grim001 | excellent, found a nice generic and modular way to scan for word meanings... |
| 12:00.49 | JademusSreg | Orly? |
| 12:01.01 | grim001 | local $syntax = ScanSyntax($words, maxWords) |
| 12:01.15 | grim001 | if if CheckSyntax($syntax, "", "prefix", "type", "other") then... |
| 12:01.22 | JademusSreg | Nice. |
| 12:01.30 | grim001 | I can just add more categories to ScanSyntax as needed |
| 12:01.46 | grim001 | ScanSyntax just checks the words against some hashtable entries to see what category they fit into |
| 12:01.47 | JademusSreg | I assume that's AutoIt code? |
| 12:02.00 | grim001 | yes, except the "if if" part |
| 12:02.09 | Deaod | that an error? |
| 12:02.32 | grim001 | an error that formed while I was copy-pasting that thing. |
| 12:02.37 | Deaod | :) |
| 12:03.12 | Deaod | i thought it was syntax for if and only if |
| 12:03.18 | Deaod | meh. |
| 12:03.43 | grim001 | so, if it isn't obvious, CheckSyntax would return true in that situation if the first 4 words in the $words array were categorized as whatever, prefix, type, then other |
| 12:04.22 | grim001 | I've been going for very clean code for this thing, hiding all the dirty work between nice function calls to keep it separate from the main logic. |
| 12:04.34 | grim001 | *behind |
| 12:07.23 | grim001 | even when it's done, anyone should be able to look at it and see where to insert whatever hacks of their own they might want to add. |
| 12:07.26 | Demo | I figured it out |
| 12:07.33 | Demo | going to go change it all |
| 12:07.39 | Demo | then I r happy tiem |
| 12:07.52 | grim001 | I hate "open source" projects that are monolithic structures that take forever to comprehend, much less contribute to |
| 12:08.57 | JademusSreg | Haha, thanks grim/. |
| 12:09.02 | JademusSreg | <3 clean code |
| 12:10.00 | grim001 | not to mention that AutoIt's language is so simple that anyone who understands galaxy should be able to pick it up in 5 minutes |
| 12:13.45 | A1win | humm what would be the best way of keeping track of how long a mission has been running? |
| 12:13.59 | A1win | (with multiple missions in the map) |
| 12:14.21 | Deaod | start a timer when a mission starts and see how long the timer has been running |
| 12:14.29 | A1win | oh right ;p |
| 12:14.37 | A1win | still waking up |
| 12:15.50 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 12:16.02 | JademusSreg | Hilarity ensues. |
| 12:16.38 | A1win | timers always need an expiration time? |
| 12:17.22 | Demo | And fixed. |
| 12:17.32 | Deaod | well, you can just set the expiration time to a very huge number |
| 12:17.40 | A1win | I suppose... |
| 12:18.58 | A1win | though I think I'll probably give some kind of a timeout for the missions anyway |
| 12:20.47 | Dogmai | ugh |
| 12:20.53 | Dogmai | run a trigger every second integer+1 |
| 12:22.32 | A1win | nah timer should be fine |
| 12:23.14 | Dogmai | thats basically what a timer is |
| 12:23.28 | Dogmai | sc2's gameloop runs at 16 times a second |
| 12:23.29 | A1win | they're floats though |
| 12:23.30 | Dogmai | from memory |
| 12:23.35 | Dogmai | yea |
| 12:24.20 | grim001 | I use a Wait(0,0) loop to keep more accurate track of time... updates twice as often |
| 12:24.26 | grim001 | may not be needed for some purposes though |
| 12:24.45 | Dogmai | yea |
| 12:24.57 | Dogmai | did you see the funny thread about a running marine |
| 12:25.14 | Dogmai | and triggers firing 1000 times a second =\ |
| 12:26.33 | JademusSreg | Wait(0,0) =D |
| 12:27.53 | JademusSreg | Especially good for stuff that uses player input in a main loop. |
| 12:29.34 | Dogmai | the wait loop can only update at 16 times a second right? or is it 32? |
| 12:30.41 | JademusSreg | 32 |
| 12:31.41 | JademusSreg | Wait(0,0) is as small a period as you get, firing roughly 32 times per second. |
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| 12:53.59 | A1win | duh more bugs, funny how I didn't notice this the first time |
| 12:54.11 | A1win | even though I tested the thing a lot |
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| 13:05.45 | A1win | should I have all dialog item used events handled by one trigger? |
| 13:06.10 | JManV|Work | theoretically: maybe |
| 13:06.35 | JManV|Work | actually, i don't think i would |
| 13:07.36 | JManV|Work | i don't think you're gonna get a noticeable performance hit from seperate triggers, but you gain a lot of organization and readibility |
| 13:07.45 | A1win | I suppose |
| 13:07.52 | JManV|Work | i'd switch to 1 trigger only if multiples proved to be slow |
| 13:08.25 | A1win | err |
| 13:08.34 | A1win | except that the events still can't handle variables |
| 13:08.43 | JManV|Work | ? |
| 13:08.54 | A1win | can't do dialogitemvariable is used |
| 13:09.18 | JManV|Work | o, ic |
| 13:09.29 | JManV|Work | you can use a condition |
| 13:09.30 | A1win | so if I have multiple events, the client will send the use to all of them |
| 13:09.36 | JManV|Work | they're relatively quick |
| 13:09.56 | A1win | yeah but they are checked only after the data goes over the network? |
| 13:10.06 | JManV|Work | i believe it's been demonstrated that a condition on a trigger is faster than a condition in a trigger |
| 13:10.16 | JManV|Work | hard to say |
| 13:10.45 | JManV|Work | but i thought you meant one trigger for "dialog item is dropped", another for "dialog item is picked up", etc... |
| 13:10.50 | JManV|Work | not for seperate items |
| 13:10.54 | A1win | ah |
| 13:11.01 | A1win | well I meant separate items, got a lot of them ;p |
| 13:11.08 | JManV|Work | you might want to branch on dialog item used |
| 13:11.30 | JademusSreg | Hi there. |
| 13:11.51 | A1win | I have loops that go through the arrays of items and then skips remaining actions if the right one is found :P |
| 13:12.04 | JademusSreg | Like a switch. |
| 13:12.04 | JManV|Work | that's fairly common |
| 13:12.25 | A1win | so if I wanted to divide them into separate functions, I should probably use functions that return true if the right one was found so it won't go through any more of them |
| 13:13.27 | A1win | ah well it's still short enough to fit it into one trigger |
| 13:13.52 | JademusSreg | No wai |
| 13:14.05 | JManV|Work | wai |
| 13:15.36 | A1win | yay now I have a launch button that adds the player on the mission ;p |
| 13:15.50 | A1win | ...but doesn't yet move him anywhere |
| 13:15.51 | JManV|Work | so i rebuilt that code yesterday, jademus, and the bug never resurfaced |
| 13:16.08 | JManV|Work | probably an editor glitch of some sort |
| 13:16.20 | JademusSreg | Probably. |
| 13:16.56 | JManV|Work | weird stuff |
| 13:17.04 | JManV|Work | very frustrating |
| 13:17.30 | A1win | mmh for some reason my timer isn't working |
| 13:17.42 | A1win | oh nvm |
| 13:17.51 | A1win | I'm just restarting it every time a player attempts to join a mission :P |
| 13:18.03 | A1win | forgot to set the "started" flag on |
| 13:24.30 | JademusSreg | I've been working on my terrain for my Cat n Mouse map the past few days. |
| 13:24.36 | JademusSreg | It is coming along well. |
| 13:25.59 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/SanTarantino.SC2Map |
| 13:28.12 | JManV|Work | heh. you're making a c'n'm :P |
| 13:28.27 | JademusSreg | Told ya! |
| 13:28.42 | JManV|Work | there really isn't a good one |
| 13:28.47 | JademusSreg | I know! |
| 13:28.52 | JademusSreg | =( |
| 13:28.58 | JManV|Work | like i said: if onetwo's and vietman's are the best there is, that is sad |
| 13:29.29 | JademusSreg | VietMan's doesn't warrant mention, I opine. |
| 13:29.29 | JManV|Work | i like that you don't have to mine for minerals in onetwos |
| 13:29.39 | JademusSreg | It was probably the worst I've played. |
| 13:29.42 | JManV|Work | it's the top in popularity, currently |
| 13:29.48 | JManV|Work | 2nd page |
| 13:30.03 | JManV|Work | the map is abysmal tho |
| 13:30.11 | JManV|Work | just... awful |
| 13:30.13 | JademusSreg | Ugh. |
| 13:30.28 | JManV|Work | and again, i don't really like mining for minerals as a mouse |
| 13:30.44 | JademusSreg | I concur. |
| 13:30.49 | JManV|Work | hiding buildings to make cash, is cool to me |
| 13:30.58 | JademusSreg | I'm mostly inspired by Frog Hunt from wc3. |
| 13:31.06 | JademusSreg | Since it was my favorite. |
| 13:31.22 | JManV|Work | but minerals leave you with a limited number of places to hide your money making structures |
| 13:31.51 | JManV|Work | so that cat just has to circle over and over through all the mineral patches. very boring imo |
| 13:32.20 | JademusSreg | Lame. |
| 13:32.33 | JManV|Work | it was fun floating around in an overlord, tho :P |
| 13:32.52 | JademusSreg | But everything about VietMan's map was lame, everything. |
| 13:32.57 | JManV|Work | but only because his map sucked and there were like 2 places i could actually walk |
| 13:33.14 | JManV|Work | they drop just a few pylons and it blocked off everything for me |
| 13:33.28 | JManV|Work | no open areas on the map, really |
| 13:33.54 | JManV|Work | and the map is too small, and the cat moves a bit to slow |
| 13:34.28 | JManV|Work | plus the feel of it is just... off |
| 13:34.48 | JManV|Work | onetwo's had a good theme going. |
| 13:36.58 | JManV|Work | i like the supply depots as blockers, too |
| 13:37.01 | JManV|Work | i don't like pylons |
| 13:37.24 | JManV|Work | it's a subtle difference, i guess, but i think it makes a pretty big one |
| 13:41.30 | JManV|Work | i think minerals vs. no minerals actually makes a big difference on how the game starts |
| 13:42.03 | JManV|Work | if there are minerals, all the mice go to presubscribed areas, and then the cat just does the same. it stagnates very quickly |
| 13:42.48 | JManV|Work | just make sure the mouse actually has a chance at winning :P |
| 13:43.04 | JManV|Work | OMFG!!!! |
| 13:43.24 | JManV|Work | my map is crashing again |
| 13:43.32 | JademusSreg | OH shi |
| 13:43.39 | JManV|Work | a known good copy with no changes |
| 13:43.47 | JManV|Work | copied from home PC to work PC |
| 13:43.53 | JManV|Work | runs at home. crashes at work |
| 13:44.06 | JademusSreg | Interesting. |
| 13:44.43 | JManV|Work | its possible i miscopied, i suppose |
| 13:45.08 | JademusSreg | Also, I don't like any silly shit as blockers; supply depots are just as silly to me as pylons. |
| 13:45.09 | JManV|Work | i'm actually more comfortable with that idea than the alternative |
| 13:45.18 | JManV|Work | fair enough |
| 13:45.34 | JManV|Work | i think supply depots just fit onetwo's theme better than pylons fit vietmans |
| 13:45.41 | JademusSreg | I agree with that. |
| 13:45.44 | JManV|Work | and the cubes in vietman's map... way off theme |
| 13:46.38 | JManV|Work | ok. map is running now |
| 13:46.42 | JManV|Work | no idea what that was about |
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| 13:47.14 | JademusSreg | It's just that I see these guys building shit out of nothing and it seems ridiculous to me. If you're already being ridiculous, it doesn't matter too much at that point how silly it is. Well, that's not exactly true; you can certainly dig the whole deeper with sillier shit. |
| 13:47.34 | JademusSreg | *hole |
| 13:47.36 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 13:48.01 | A1win | uff forgot that players need to see chat even with the mission UI open |
| 13:48.52 | JManV|Work | i'm almost done with my intro scene |
| 13:51.09 | JManV|Work | i was amazed at how long rodrigo stuck around yesterday |
| 13:51.54 | JManV|Work | i also found it funny that he had never heard of my game before. apparently he does in fact live in a hole. |
| 13:51.55 | JademusSreg | I saw it as a political move, but that's just my cynicism showing. =) |
| 13:52.02 | JManV|Work | i think so too |
| 13:52.11 | JManV|Work | he recognized the hate building against him |
| 13:52.17 | JManV|Work | and i called him out on a lot of shit |
| 13:54.05 | Deaod | isnt rodrigo the guy who kept complaining that his maps didnt get enough attention? |
| 13:54.12 | JManV|Work | the very one |
| 13:54.31 | Deaod | mmmh |
| 13:54.44 | Deaod | what did he do besides being an attention whore? |
| 13:54.48 | JManV|Work | but he doesn't care enough to learn about other ppls map |
| 13:55.17 | JManV|Work | ...nothing? |
| 13:55.34 | JManV|Work | he built some maps that have never really been popular |
| 13:55.49 | JManV|Work | and then he spent more time complaining about the popularity system than he did on his maps |
| 13:56.07 | JManV|Work | and the pop system isn't necessarily the reason for his map's failure |
| 13:56.22 | JManV|Work | his games are /very/ niche |
| 13:57.03 | JManV|Work | if he were a real game designer, i think he'd quickly learn that google works a lot like the popularity system |
| 13:57.25 | JademusSreg | Debates is for cool people, who enjoy pontificating and being reviewed publically by their peers. |
| 13:57.29 | JManV|Work | in fact, google is probably more loaded than the pop system |
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| 13:58.44 | JManV|Work | ... which is think is very few sc2 players |
| 13:59.40 | A1win | just ignore him like any other troll ;p |
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| 14:00.15 | JManV|Work | that's no fun |
| 14:00.19 | A1win | hehe |
| 14:00.25 | JManV|Work | he's like the troll king |
| 14:00.30 | Deaod | wasnt his nexus word wars map banned from bnet? |
| 14:00.37 | Deaod | or was that someone else? |
| 14:00.41 | JManV|Work | it was |
| 14:00.42 | A1win | troll kings eat a lot more than regular trolls |
| 14:00.44 | Deaod | heh |
| 14:00.48 | wOlfLinG | That was Rodrigo |
| 14:01.05 | JManV|Work | i don't care for NWW. i think it's a dumb map idea, but i do think its BS that blizz banned the map |
| 14:01.29 | Deaod | well, banning a map is obviously bad. |
| 14:01.33 | JManV|Work | it was banned for questionable words, that were part of a dictionary load, and he was given no warning |
| 14:01.44 | Deaod | never played the actual map |
| 14:01.45 | JManV|Work | i think "Jesus" was one of the words |
| 14:01.57 | Deaod | is that even a word? |
| 14:02.05 | Deaod | thought it was just a name |
| 14:02.20 | JManV|Work | its certainly not a vulgar one |
| 14:02.29 | JManV|Work | religious figure or not, Jesus was a man. |
| 14:02.35 | JManV|Work | he existed. |
| 14:02.40 | Jum-Jum | thank god, baby big brother blizzard is there to save us from anything that could harm us |
| 14:02.47 | JManV|Work | although, so did Hilter... |
| 14:03.19 | JManV|Work | at any matter, i would be livid if blizz banned my map without warning |
| 14:03.42 | JManV|Work | unless the infraction in flagrant, the mapper should be given an opportunity to correct it |
| 14:03.54 | Jum-Jum | ive heard so much shit about sc2 and ive seen how crappy the mapmaking part is |
| 14:03.56 | Jum-Jum | i gave up on it |
| 14:04.07 | JManV|Work | obv if someone makes a penis shooter game that shoots sperm, they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt |
| 14:04.10 | Jum-Jum | sure its the best out there but at a lot of stuff its just a downgrade of war3 editor |
| 14:04.26 | Jum-Jum | just copying and creating a new unit is such a huge hazzle, takes ages |
| 14:04.35 | Jum-Jum | and to even upload your map on b.net is overly complicated |
| 14:04.42 | Deaod | well, the code editor is actually a step up from WC3s |
| 14:04.52 | Jum-Jum | i'd rather much have people host the maps instead |
| 14:04.55 | JManV|Work | but a few questionable words do not make a flagrant infraction |
| 14:05.01 | Deaod | its still shit in comparison to whats the community has been using for years. |
| 14:05.14 | Abstruse | omg |
| 14:05.24 | Deaod | what* |
| 14:05.25 | Abstruse | i just watched the episode of southpark on jersey |
| 14:05.27 | Abstruse | lmaooooooooooo |
| 14:05.32 | Jum-Jum | SNOOOKIIII! |
| 14:05.54 | Abstruse | i remember one day im walking by the tv |
| 14:05.55 | Ashamed | any data gurus here rigth now? |
| 14:05.59 | Abstruse | my mom is watching jersey shore |
| 14:06.06 | Abstruse | she's taking a piss behind the bar |
| 14:06.16 | Abstruse | snooki is |
| 14:06.17 | Abstruse | man |
| 14:06.28 | Ashamed | please do not talk of these people |
| 14:06.32 | Abstruse | lol |
| 14:06.34 | Ashamed | they discrase me :( |
| 14:06.39 | Jum-Jum | ive only watched one episode |
| 14:06.52 | Jum-Jum | people just love watching idiots i guess |
| 14:06.59 | JManV|Work | although, there is a good chance rodrigo's map got reported in the first place because of who he is |
| 14:07.02 | Ashamed | that is what it is |
| 14:07.09 | Deaod | well, who is he? |
| 14:07.17 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 14:07.21 | JManV|Work | a troll that annoys the hell out of everyone |
| 14:07.25 | Jum-Jum | lol |
| 14:07.28 | Ashamed | yeah honestly i dont like any of his maps >< |
| 14:07.31 | Deaod | he was a blank sheet of paper for me until SC2. |
| 14:07.48 | Ashamed | but i do like his tracking system |
| 14:07.50 | JademusSreg | A self-aggrandizing egotist? |
| 14:07.58 | JManV|Work | there's that too |
| 14:08.12 | JManV|Work | he's also incapable of pointing blame back at himself |
| 14:08.24 | Jum-Jum | Am I the only one in here who thinks the BF3 trailers are shit? |
| 14:08.30 | Ashamed | yes |
| 14:08.31 | Ashamed | WTF |
| 14:08.32 | JManV|Work | his map's failures are clearly the fault of the popularity system |
| 14:08.39 | Ashamed | I watched the game play trailer |
| 14:08.40 | Deaod | dont care about battlefield. |
| 14:08.41 | Ashamed | and was like OMG |
| 14:08.46 | JademusSreg | At least Mephs is capable of making maps that involve more than interface shit. |
| 14:08.55 | Ashamed | i never played battlefield really before |
| 14:09.02 | Ashamed | but the graphics in that game are fucking amazing |
| 14:09.03 | Jum-Jum | whats to omg about |
| 14:09.21 | Jum-Jum | yes the graphics are cool |
| 14:09.24 | Deaod | ashamed, im ashamed you think graphics are essential to a game. |
| 14:09.29 | Jum-Jum | but thats about it |
| 14:09.30 | Ashamed | i dont |
| 14:09.30 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 14:09.47 | Jum-Jum | everythign is scripted, it looks so boring |
| 14:09.49 | Ashamed | but in an fps if you can make a good game play and graphics |
| 14:09.54 | Abstruse | ashamed, do you grief people alot? |
| 14:10.01 | Ashamed | which i am sure it will have good game play |
| 14:10.10 | Jum-Jum | another game you just run through with no feeling at all. |
| 14:10.15 | Deaod | point is: battlefield never had good gameplay for an FPS |
| 14:10.20 | Deaod | not one. |
| 14:10.30 | Deaod | go play some faster FPS. |
| 14:10.30 | JManV|Work | i do understand ripping music for a game. i won't do it, but i understand that it happens |
| 14:10.31 | Jum-Jum | im waiting for them to show some MP gameplay |
| 14:10.37 | Ashamed | yeah i never really liked them.... but i didnt really have a good enough build when the other ones were coming out |
| 14:10.38 | JManV|Work | but mephs ripped almost everything for his game |
| 14:10.41 | Jum-Jum | BF:BC2 was and is a lot of fun |
| 14:10.56 | Jum-Jum | I hope they take that experience and add it to BF3, where we can have 64 player battles >:D |
| 14:11.10 | Jum-Jum | and hopefully its not just complete shit with two players owning everybody (planes) |
| 14:11.11 | Ashamed | i bet there will be alot of "COD" things in the game |
| 14:11.12 | Deaod | "tactical" shooters... |
| 14:11.14 | Ashamed | i think it will be good |
| 14:11.18 | Deaod | nothing tactical about them. |
| 14:11.20 | JademusSreg | Yea, I'm not complimenting Mephs.Just pointing out that he designs for gameplay, which is more than Rodrigo. |
| 14:11.24 | Ashamed | especially after COD they will mix them both |
| 14:11.26 | Jum-Jum | Rainbow Six |
| 14:11.38 | JManV|Work | yeah, he does clearly have what the public wants in mind |
| 14:11.39 | Jum-Jum | I want a new game like that |
| 14:11.56 | JManV|Work | whereas rodrigo seems to disregard what other want, then complain when no one plays it |
| 14:11.59 | Jum-Jum | Rainbow Six Vegas was okay but it wasnt very... it was still fairly arcadish |
| 14:12.21 | Jum-Jum | Recently I've enjoyed games where you die in one or two shots more. Like Splinter Cell |
| 14:12.32 | Ashamed | well he made a map about debates what does he expect >< |
| 14:12.40 | Ashamed | i would never ever want to debate on sc2 lol |
| 14:13.06 | Ashamed | when i can blow shit up ^^ |
| 14:13.13 | Jum-Jum | indeed |
| 14:13.22 | Jum-Jum | debating with people... eugh |
| 14:13.25 | Jum-Jum | I avoid that as much as I can |
| 14:13.26 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 14:13.29 | Ashamed | lol |
| 14:13.53 | JademusSreg | I enjoy debating with people. But a map about debating seems, uh, more than a little silly. |
| 14:14.02 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 14:14.09 | Ashamed | i only debate with people in the heat of the convosation |
| 14:14.14 | Ashamed | i do not "CREATE" debates |
| 14:14.16 | Ashamed | they just happen |
| 14:14.30 | Jum-Jum | its a cool idea tho for a map |
| 14:14.37 | Jum-Jum | just playing it doesnt really seem very appealing |
| 14:14.39 | JManV|Work | like the "does rodrigo suck" debate we're having now? |
| 14:14.46 | Jum-Jum | in other news -> http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Latest-News-Wires/2011/0315/Pepsi-bottles-no-more-plastic |
| 14:14.47 | JManV|Work | although, no one seems to have the counter-arguement :P |
| 14:15.02 | Jum-Jum | yeah, its just talking |
| 14:15.03 | Ashamed | i just made a pretty cool system for my TD |
| 14:15.15 | Ashamed | let me get a you tube link |
| 14:16.02 | Ashamed | i was not going to let anyone see this for a bit longer |
| 14:16.10 | Ashamed | -.- |
| 14:16.16 | Ashamed | its just one system in my td :) |
| 14:16.17 | Ashamed | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG9giwW4y18 |
| 14:16.35 | Ashamed | i am trying to make a TD where you actually have to be "GOOD" at playing |
| 14:17.22 | JManV|Work | well you could start by not making a TD :P |
| 14:17.30 | Ashamed | no this one will be good |
| 14:17.38 | Ashamed | this is just my fast map :) |
| 14:17.41 | Ashamed | you need a fast map |
| 14:18.04 | JManV|Work | i never made one. prolly should have :P |
| 14:18.08 | Ashamed | i do not have much time to work on other kinds of maps.. i mean i am but production will be slow |
| 14:18.17 | Ashamed | i jjust had a baby |
| 14:18.17 | JManV|Work | i tried a few, but they ended up being not-so-fast |
| 14:18.30 | Ashamed | yeah i am going to try to make mine fast |
| 14:18.32 | JManV|Work | so much data stuff i didn't understand at the time |
| 14:18.40 | Ashamed | thats kinda why i am doing it |
| 14:18.45 | Ashamed | because i can make awesome triggers |
| 14:18.50 | Ashamed | but i can do shit in data lol |
| 14:18.54 | JademusSreg | My baby watches me test maps, when she's in a good mood. |
| 14:18.55 | JManV|Work | i could prolly make them fast now that i know more, but i don't want to any longer |
| 14:19.06 | Ashamed | my baby is 1 month lol |
| 14:19.12 | Ashamed | let me get some pictures !! |
| 14:19.13 | JademusSreg | 17. =D |
| 14:19.18 | Ashamed | i just got some professional ones done |
| 14:19.20 | Ashamed | he is cute |
| 14:19.31 | JManV|Work | i actually did make a rish game as my first map, but i never finished it when i realized how many risk maps there were |
| 14:19.57 | JademusSreg | I have yet to see a good risk map. |
| 14:20.09 | JManV|Work | mine was a good start, i think |
| 14:20.28 | JManV|Work | you actually took turns picking territores |
| 14:20.33 | Ashamed | yeah |
| 14:20.40 | Ashamed | if you make a "RISK" game and create it liek risk |
| 14:20.42 | Ashamed | then it iwll be good |
| 14:20.44 | JademusSreg | Vote: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9876544/sdfsdf.jpg OR http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9876544/Terrain%20027.jpg |
| 14:20.53 | JManV|Work | i tried to stick to actual risk gameplay too, instead of making some crazy variant |
| 14:20.53 | JademusSreg | I prefer the second one. |
| 14:20.59 | Ashamed | you should of |
| 14:21.01 | Ashamed | it owuld of been good |
| 14:21.11 | JManV|Work | i still have it |
| 14:21.32 | Ashamed | you just need to make it as fast as you can |
| 14:21.34 | JademusSreg | Since it has all the terrain texture layers applied and not just diffusion. |
| 14:21.35 | Ashamed | that is the issue |
| 14:21.53 | Ashamed | yeah number 2 |
| 14:21.56 | JManV|Work | yeah |
| 14:22.10 | JManV|Work | i dunno. maybe one day i will |
| 14:22.21 | JManV|Work | right now i'm pretty consumed with a much larger project |
| 14:22.42 | JademusSreg | I just need more variety in my deformation cliffs, so Shadow has been working on some models for me. |
| 14:23.55 | JademusSreg | I hate blizzard cliffs. |
| 14:24.09 | JademusSreg | It's as though they exist to spite me. |
| 14:24.55 | JManV|Work | i'm still loving this: http://i56.tinypic.com/28vxi13.png :P |
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| 14:25.15 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 14:25.18 | JademusSreg | Excellent. |
| 14:25.36 | JManV|Work | the stalker actually poofs out of a pokeball |
| 14:25.41 | Bibendus | burns! |
| 14:25.41 | Vexal | is it possible to make a behavior persist through death? |
| 14:25.43 | Vexal | and revive |
| 14:25.45 | JManV|Work | working on that part currently |
| 14:25.59 | JManV|Work | it needs a sound effect |
| 14:26.24 | JademusSreg | Vexal, maybe, if Death time is higher than zero. |
| 14:26.26 | JManV|Work | thinking of making him wander a bit before he poofs out too |
| 14:26.36 | Vexal | well |
| 14:26.44 | Vexal | i have other behaviors that don't persist |
| 14:26.46 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n1vxkJfaiY |
| 14:26.53 | JademusSreg | Death time would need to be longer than the duration, if it works at all. |
| 14:27.00 | Vexal | i'm asking if it does work |
| 14:27.08 | Bibendus | did u test it? |
| 14:27.10 | Vexal | no |
| 14:27.14 | Bibendus | then... |
| 14:27.15 | Bibendus | test it |
| 14:27.16 | Bibendus | xD |
| 14:27.18 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 14:27.22 | Vexal | but that's a waste of time |
| 14:27.28 | Bibendus | i m quite practical in these things |
| 14:27.29 | Bibendus | lol |
| 14:27.29 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka |
| 14:27.38 | Vexal | fine! |
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| 14:27.52 | Bibendus | it seems u should test it for us :D |
| 14:28.34 | JademusSreg | Bibendus, you might be interested in some models Shadow made. |
| 14:28.42 | Bibendus | like? |
| 14:29.02 | JademusSreg | Let me get the link from him. |
| 14:29.06 | JManV|Work | dammit. i hate when i import into the wrong folder |
| 14:29.36 | Ashamed | ok guys wanna see my baby :) |
| 14:29.38 | JademusSreg | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrCUAaEo2_4 |
| 14:29.47 | Ashamed | he is 1 month from yesterday ( when the pictures were taken ) |
| 14:29.48 | Ashamed | http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/688/ezrah1.jpg |
| 14:29.59 | Bibendus | oh k |
| 14:30.04 | JademusSreg | Holy shit, that's blue. |
| 14:30.07 | Bibendus | thekoppar already PMed me |
| 14:30.08 | Ashamed | i think i might try and model him |
| 14:30.09 | JademusSreg | Like a goddamn glacier. |
| 14:30.09 | Ashamed | >< |
| 14:30.18 | Bibendus | and he's going to make me some tile models for the DK map |
| 14:30.18 | Bibendus | :P |
| 14:30.43 | JademusSreg | I just noticed those blocks were less than awesome. =) |
| 14:31.15 | Bibendus | he's making me some with dirt texture |
| 14:31.20 | Ashamed | http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/6083/ezrah2.jpg?http://img826.imageshack.us/ |
| 14:31.21 | Bibendus | and creep |
| 14:31.23 | Bibendus | for zergs |
| 14:31.48 | Bibendus | :| |
| 14:31.53 | JademusSreg | Heh. |
| 14:32.15 | Ashamed | http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6724/ezrah6.jpg?http://img834.imageshack.us/ |
| 14:32.18 | Ashamed | thats the last one >< |
| 14:33.08 | Ashamed | thats my cute ass baby |
| 14:33.49 | Bibendus | omg he's bold! |
| 14:33.52 | JademusSreg | The first two were good. That last one creeps me out; it looks like an android melting or something. =( |
| 14:33.59 | Bibendus | yep lol |
| 14:34.10 | Ashamed | lol |
| 14:34.14 | Ashamed | well ty jademussreg |
| 14:34.18 | Ashamed | i will be sure to tell my wife |
| 14:34.19 | Bibendus | i couldn't find the words |
| 14:34.19 | Ashamed | you said that |
| 14:34.21 | JademusSreg | But baby's are squishy, that's expected. |
| 14:34.22 | Bibendus | but jade did |
| 14:34.23 | Bibendus | :P |
| 14:34.53 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 14:35.30 | Ashamed | the 3rd one is good because its his actual eyes |
| 14:35.41 | Ashamed | this lady taht took the pictures kinda pissed me off |
| 14:36.11 | Ashamed | she was using him as a demo and she didn't give me any of the pictures......... she was like 100 dollars for the pictures on a cd |
| 14:36.23 | Demo | How does someone use someone as me... |
| 14:36.26 | Ashamed | and i was like YOU can put them on my server and you dont have to edit a single one of them because i can do it |
| 14:36.34 | Ashamed | and she was being a little bitch about it |
| 14:36.38 | Ashamed | so.... w/e |
| 14:36.55 | Ashamed | i think she did too much photo editing on the first two but it still looks nice |
| 14:38.26 | JademusSreg | I concur. |
| 14:38.44 | JademusSreg | The actual eye color is like my daughter's. |
| 14:40.37 | Bibendus | still why are we talkin about cute kids |
| 14:40.40 | Bibendus | instead of maps? |
| 14:40.47 | Bibendus | that's intollerable!!! |
| 14:40.48 | Bibendus | :P |
| 14:41.17 | JademusSreg | It's angle and focus of that third photo that gives the eye a surreal proportion to the face. |
| 14:42.15 | Bibendus | what about data editing the face? |
| 14:42.37 | JademusSreg | That combined with a smooshed chumby cheek gives it the creepy Korean eye-obsessed fashion look. |
| 14:42.48 | Bibendus | lol |
| 14:43.00 | JademusSreg | Still, cute kid. =) |
| 14:43.11 | JademusSreg | Even if the photographer was ridiculous. |
| 14:49.20 | A1win | \o/ now the player can also leave the base |
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| 14:52.18 | JManV|Work | \m/ |
| 14:52.35 | JademusSreg | \lmnop/ |
| 14:54.31 | Ashamed | hey guys out of my baby pictures which one was the best the red hat one? |
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| 14:56.55 | JademusSreg | I liked the red hat, yes. |
| 14:57.25 | JademusSreg | It was expressive. =) |
| 14:57.48 | JManV|Work | you guys actually made me do work with all this talk of cute kids |
| 14:57.57 | JManV|Work | how dare you! :P |
| 14:58.33 | JManV|Work | my boss was glowing about his kid for months after he had it |
| 14:58.43 | JManV|Work | so i told him: no one will care about your kid as much as you did |
| 14:58.53 | JManV|Work | and it'd be creepy if they did |
| 14:59.25 | A1win | mmh what next... |
| 14:59.26 | JManV|Work | cuz he was like "doesn't anyone care about my kid?" |
| 14:59.56 | A1win | mission abandoning I suppose |
| 15:01.33 | Ashamed | lol |
| 15:01.37 | Ashamed | i am at work too |
| 15:01.39 | Ashamed | jmanv |
| 15:01.49 | Ashamed | i am pusihg out PGP >< fun |
| 15:02.11 | JManV|Work | all that talk of cute kids made me run for the hills... and all i could think to do was actuall work |
| 15:02.14 | JManV|Work | yuk! |
| 15:02.20 | JManV|Work | :P |
| 15:03.17 | JManV|Work | its actually more yuk because what they have me working on is BS |
| 15:03.50 | JManV|Work | they are constantly changing their comission structure, which constantly causes me to built things that work outside the system to deal with it |
| 15:03.55 | JManV|Work | but this one takes the cake |
| 15:03.56 | JademusSreg | You're correct, Jman. |
| 15:04.14 | JManV|Work | basically i'm building a database outside of our ERP system to store additional commission information |
| 15:04.15 | JademusSreg | It's why I don't talk about my children much, or my life. |
| 15:04.19 | JManV|Work | its unmaintainable |
| 15:06.06 | A1win | hmmh what to put as text for "launch mission" button if the player has already been on that mission and isn't allowed to join anymore... or maybe I should just grey out the mission entirely and not allow even looking at its details |
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| 15:07.31 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 15:07.47 | JademusSreg | Grey out the button. |
| 15:07.52 | A1win | mm |
| 15:08.08 | JademusSreg | No harm in display relevant information, unless it will never be joinable again. |
| 15:08.18 | A1win | it won't be, by that player |
| 15:08.31 | A1win | you can only join a mission once |
| 15:08.43 | A1win | so if you abandon it but others keep playing, you can't go back |
| 15:09.27 | JademusSreg | In that case, remove it from display, unless you also keep track of of mission history for some reason. |
| 15:09.55 | A1win | the mission display is same for all players, so I'll keep it there to show the player that others are still on that mission |
| 15:10.20 | JManV|Work | dialogs are actually suprisingly customizeable on a per-player basis |
| 15:10.26 | A1win | mm |
| 15:10.38 | JManV|Work | you can hide items for just one player |
| 15:10.39 | A1win | but the point is that it *should* be the same for all players |
| 15:10.44 | JManV|Work | ah |
| 15:10.44 | A1win | because they share the missions |
| 15:12.24 | JManV|Work | god, my gf. |
| 15:12.35 | JManV|Work | she's a bit younger than me, and normally thats not a problem |
| 15:12.45 | JManV|Work | but every once in a while, her immaturity shines through |
| 15:12.48 | Bibendus | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 15:12.50 | A1win | :x |
| 15:13.14 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 15:13.33 | JademusSreg | Now you'vegot me curious. |
| 15:14.15 | JManV|Work | we're going to some concert she wanted to, and i'm taking he because i'm a good bf |
| 15:14.48 | JManV|Work | but she borrowed her moms car, so i have to pick he up from her moms work instead of her house |
| 15:15.10 | JManV|Work | i told her i didn't want to. her moms work is located deep inside some heavy rush-hour traffic areas |
| 15:15.18 | JManV|Work | and i'll be picking her up at 5pm |
| 15:15.28 | JManV|Work | it's gonna super suck |
| 15:15.49 | JManV|Work | somehow she put herself in a situation where i "have" to now |
| 15:16.11 | JManV|Work | when it never should have been an option in the first place |
| 15:16.50 | JademusSreg | Ah, but was it inconsideration or manipulation? =D |
| 15:17.01 | JManV|Work | i don't know |
| 15:17.08 | JManV|Work | i'm hoping inconsideration |
| 15:17.19 | JManV|Work | although i'm not sure either is better |
| 15:17.24 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 15:17.41 | JManV|Work | either wya, i'm being taken advantage of, and i'm not happy about it |
| 15:18.28 | JManV|Work | well, she's being super apologetic now. i'm glad i at least said something |
| 15:18.42 | JademusSreg | She wants you to go all white knight and slay the traffic dragon. |
| 15:19.07 | JademusSreg | And ride off to the kingdom of Concertia. |
| 15:19.17 | JManV|Work | i already have to drive like an hour for this concert |
| 15:19.26 | JManV|Work | that's going to add at least a half an hour |
| 15:19.37 | JManV|Work | and it's all for her |
| 15:19.51 | JManV|Work | i gave her a mile, and she took another one |
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| 15:20.11 | JademusSreg | Hi Zoxc. |
| 15:20.35 | JManV|Work | but i digress. just needed to vent a little there :P |
| 15:20.56 | Skizot | just hit that ass. and then be all "oh sorry i forgot to call" |
| 15:21.54 | JManV|Work | i've been starting to wonder if i'm really getting that much out of the relationship... |
| 15:22.14 | JademusSreg | How young is she, anyway? |
| 15:22.22 | JManV|Work | 24 |
| 15:22.39 | Skizot | are you getting laid at least? |
| 15:22.40 | JademusSreg | And you met where? |
| 15:22.51 | JManV|Work | we actually met a long time ago |
| 15:22.59 | JManV|Work | and disconnected, and re-met over the internet |
| 15:23.23 | JademusSreg | By long time ago, you mean when she was a teenager. |
| 15:23.25 | JManV|Work | she was a friend of someone i worked with |
| 15:23.31 | JManV|Work | yeah, she was in high school |
| 15:23.45 | JManV|Work | she had a crush on me. she was much too young at the time |
| 15:24.41 | JademusSreg | I figured and understand. |
| 15:24.49 | JManV|Work | i'm not proud, but i may have needed someone to make me feel better about myself when we reconnected |
| 15:24.53 | JManV|Work | but then it turned into more |
| 15:25.16 | JManV|Work | now i'm not certain if it's actually turning into less |
| 15:26.11 | JademusSreg | Why so/ |
| 15:26.13 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 15:26.38 | JManV|Work | i dunno, really |
| 15:27.03 | JManV|Work | i'd like to work things out tho |
| 15:27.27 | JManV|Work | but she doesn't work full-time, which means she has too much time on her hands |
| 15:27.51 | JManV|Work | i work full-time plus do tons of other stuff, which means i don't have as much time as she'd like me to have |
| 15:28.14 | JademusSreg | So she works, but not full-time. |
| 15:28.32 | JManV|Work | yeah, about 20 hours a week, give or take |
| 15:28.34 | JademusSreg | You are concerned about what she might do in her free time. |
| 15:28.47 | JManV|Work | no, i trust her implicitly |
| 15:29.07 | JManV|Work | but i don't have the attention to give which she requires |
| 15:29.45 | JademusSreg | How then does one have too much free time? It is really a question of what one does with one's time. |
| 15:30.17 | JManV|Work | ever lived with someone who isn't working and doesn't really have much to occupy their time? |
| 15:30.19 | Skizot | do. you. get. laid? |
| 15:30.26 | JManV|Work | ofc skiz |
| 15:30.37 | Skizot | thank god. |
| 15:30.46 | JManV|Work | then you come home, and they want all of your attention, and you just want to sit down for a few minutes and rest? |
| 15:30.53 | Skizot | i was thinking she was using you as a sugar daddy |
| 15:30.54 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 15:30.59 | JManV|Work | that's how i'm feeling |
| 15:31.06 | JManV|Work | but i don't live with her |
| 15:31.49 | JManV|Work | i just don't have that much to give |
| 15:32.16 | JManV|Work | before, i've been able to back away some and she's understood |
| 15:32.24 | JManV|Work | recently, she's been doing the opposite |
| 15:32.27 | JManV|Work | which is very bad |
| 15:32.38 | JManV|Work | i back away some, she clings |
| 15:32.51 | JManV|Work | causing me to back away more |
| 15:34.04 | JManV|Work | and its getting to the point where i feel kinda drowny |
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| 15:34.38 | JManV|Work | she is a sweet girl tho, don't get me wrong |
| 15:34.48 | JManV|Work | she's probably the nicest person i've ever dated |
| 15:35.13 | JManV|Work | (which isn't saying a lot, really) |
| 15:35.16 | Skizot | move her ass in. |
| 15:35.49 | JManV|Work | i told her along time ago: before i'd consider moving in with her, she needs a full time job |
| 15:36.02 | JManV|Work | i need to be able to come home to an empty house from time to time |
| 15:36.10 | A1win | tooltips <3 |
| 15:36.16 | JademusSreg | Comical. It doesn't seem like a question of time at all. Even if she worked and we assumed the desire for your attention to be invariant, you'd be in the same position. If you assume that more work would make her want your attention less, that seems weird, and if you think that more work would make her tired and desire some space as you do, that is similarly weird. |
| 15:36.42 | JManV|Work | perhaps |
| 15:37.05 | JManV|Work | i guess it's a matter of occupying her time better, my thoughts at least |
| 15:37.11 | JManV|Work | but you may be right |
| 15:37.55 | Skizot | full time will not change ANYTHING. |
| 15:37.55 | Skizot | just a warning. |
| 15:38.00 | JManV|Work | maybe she's just tyring to accelerate things because we've been dating a year |
| 15:38.06 | JManV|Work | and i'm just not ready |
| 15:38.22 | JademusSreg | You've had a rough time before, I take. |
| 15:38.32 | JademusSreg | Engaged? Married? |
| 15:38.50 | JManV|Work | i've been on both sides of the no work/work all the time relationship, and found it causes a huge rift |
| 15:39.05 | JManV|Work | so that's where i'm basing that off |
| 15:39.14 | JManV|Work | no, i've never really been either |
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| 15:39.31 | JManV|Work | but i know she's not ready for marriage |
| 15:39.59 | JManV|Work | i, on the other hand, am |
| 15:40.25 | JManV|Work | i'll be turning 34 in two months. i'm ready to settle down. |
| 15:40.25 | Hati | pew |
| 15:40.43 | Skizot | women are ready EARLY. |
| 15:40.45 | JademusSreg | pu |
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| 15:40.50 | JManV|Work | she's not. |
| 15:40.55 | JManV|Work | trust me. |
| 15:41.24 | JademusSreg | I've added a highway and a railway to my map. <3 |
| 15:41.24 | JManV|Work | it'll probably be a few years before she is |
| 15:41.41 | Skizot | well it SOUNDS like you are just making excuses because you want out of the relationship... have you already saddled your new horse, or just picked her from the herd? |
| 15:42.16 | JManV|Work | i'm not trying to make excuses |
| 15:42.52 | JManV|Work | i dont think |
| 15:43.20 | JManV|Work | if anything, the fact that i'm ready to settle and she isn't is a legitimate reason to end a relationship |
| 15:43.31 | JManV|Work | however, i'm not specifically in a hurry, i'm just ready |
| 15:43.49 | JManV|Work | i dunno/ i'm just confused |
| 15:44.57 | Skizot | talk to her. |
| 15:45.01 | Skizot | tell her what's up. |
| 15:45.32 | JManV|Work | i have to some degree |
| 15:45.42 | JManV|Work | to the remaining degree, i'm not really sure whats up |
| 15:48.01 | JManV|Work | i was single for about 3 years before dating her. i guess there's a little bit of fear of being single in there too |
| 15:48.07 | JademusSreg | A person who is averse to suffering would likely end a relationship on grounds of uncertainty, because not knowing, not being certain, is more agonizing than the experience of the relationship itself. |
| 15:48.12 | JManV|Work | plus she's a sweet girl, and i'd hate to break her heart |
| 15:49.06 | JademusSreg | Your choice of words indicates to me a desire to leave the relationship because you know she is not right for you at this time. |
| 15:49.36 | JademusSreg | Even admitting that you would hate to break her heart means you've entertained the possibility and the consequencwes. |
| 15:49.59 | JManV|Work | you may have hit the nail on the head |
| 15:50.22 | JManV|Work | it would crush her. |
| 15:51.48 | A1win | yay, ending a mission and replacing it with a new one works now \o/ |
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| 15:52.22 | JademusSreg | Congrats, A1. |
| 15:53.20 | A1win | ...almost |
| 15:53.34 | JademusSreg | Jman, it extending the experience any better for her, where you continue to distance yourself from her, which serves as a source of anxiety and doubt on her side, I'm sure. |
| 15:53.40 | JademusSreg | *is extending |
| 15:53.49 | JademusSreg | Also, a question mark. =) |
| 15:54.17 | JManV|Work | actually, she seems to spend a great deal of time entertaining the possibility that i might break up with her. she seems to think i'm too good for her, which is a big turn-off for me. |
| 15:54.49 | A1win | what does "too good" even mean |
| 15:55.07 | nicoli_s | JManV:you see alot of women doing that |
| 15:55.12 | JManV|Work | i dunno. i do nice stuff for her, i'm sweet. she's not used to it |
| 15:55.29 | JManV|Work | also, she doesn't have a high opinion of herself |
| 15:57.33 | JManV|Work | she started saying stuff like that before i even considered the option |
| 15:58.03 | JManV|Work | i don't need women i date to be especially confident, but completely coming down on yourself is a turn-off to me |
| 15:59.14 | Skizot | just end it. |
| 15:59.14 | Skizot | you already have in your mind. |
| 15:59.35 | Skizot | you have to break up with your fake high school girlfriend scott. |
| 15:59.41 | JManV|Work | heh |
| 15:59.53 | JManV|Work | she's an adult, just only barely :P |
| 16:00.12 | JManV|Work | i dunno, i guess it seems immature to end a relationship without trying to work it out a little first |
| 16:00.39 | JManV|Work | in the past, i'd break up with someone basically as soon as i started even considering the option |
| 16:00.44 | Skizot | according to you there is no working it out. |
| 16:01.00 | JManV|Work | although, i don't exactly regret those decisions |
| 16:01.08 | Skizot | my wife is 6 years younger than me. |
| 16:01.54 | JManV|Work | well, it could be worked out, but only through time. lots of time. |
| 16:02.11 | JManV|Work | time i'm not sure i have |
| 16:02.29 | Skizot | the end it. |
| 16:02.34 | JManV|Work | i'd hate to find out 2 years from now that it won't work out |
| 16:02.46 | Skizot | it's not rocket surgery. |
| 16:03.21 | JManV|Work | it is, however, a little more complicated than that |
| 16:03.38 | JManV|Work | but i will take that into consideration |
| 16:04.25 | JManV|Work | if i had actually made that decision already, there'd be no stopping the inertia of it - it would happen. |
| 16:04.37 | JManV|Work | on still on the fence a little |
| 16:04.59 | JManV|Work | but i'd be happy to stop boring you guys with it |
| 16:05.09 | Skizot | you HAVE though. |
| 16:05.23 | Skizot | you just won't admit it to yourself. |
| 16:05.43 | A1win | is that a decision then :P |
| 16:05.46 | JademusSreg | Haha, not boring. I enjoy picking people's brains. |
| 16:06.03 | JademusSreg | I imagine it is more accurate to say you would like to not discuss it further. |
| 16:06.14 | JManV|Work | no i don't mind |
| 16:06.32 | JManV|Work | i appreciate the thoughts |
| 16:06.32 | JademusSreg | In that case, I agree with Skizot. |
| 16:06.43 | JademusSreg | Just as I pointed out earlier. |
| 16:07.40 | JManV|Work | well, you guys probably can see it with more clarity than i can |
| 16:07.48 | JManV|Work | despite not knowing everything about the situation |
| 16:08.52 | JManV|Work | i guess i just don't want to hurt her. and yes, i know stringing her along further only hurts more. |
| 16:09.14 | Skizot | we are telling you what we see from the outside based on what you have said. |
| 16:09.38 | Skizot | your options are this. 1. END IT. 2. DEAL WITH IT. |
| 16:09.45 | JManV|Work | yeah, well it's hard to see inside yourself, sometimes |
| 16:10.00 | Skizot | forest through the trees and all that |
| 16:10.48 | JManV|Work | yeah |
| 16:11.09 | A1win | what next... maybe I should finally move onto creating the mech upgrade system |
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| 16:11.27 | JManV|Work | heh a1win :P |
| 16:11.36 | JManV|Work | dodging the conversation like the plague :) |
| 16:11.45 | A1win | :3 |
| 16:11.56 | A1win | I don't really have any bright ideas for you |
| 16:12.08 | JManV|Work | i don't expect anything |
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| 16:12.45 | JManV|Work | i just thought it was funny |
| 16:13.05 | TheAlmaity | I need a trigger god, any of em here? Ive got a lamb ready for sacrfice. |
| 16:13.15 | JManV|Work | i've apparently distracted everyone elae, but you're still cracking away at your map |
| 16:13.15 | A1win | the idea I have for now is having changeable parts for: hull, shields, engine, weapon1, weapon2, weapon3, then have 1-2 addon slots for hull, shields, engine, and then a few generic addon slots for all kinds of abilities |
| 16:13.30 | A1win | ;P |
| 16:13.38 | JManV|Work | i admire that actually, i get distracted too easily sometimes |
| 16:14.07 | TheAlmaity | No trigger gods here then? |
| 16:14.26 | Skizot | what do you want almaity? |
| 16:14.32 | JManV|Work | yeah, just ask man |
| 16:14.37 | TheAlmaity | I need an array that links variables as its value. |
| 16:14.39 | JManV|Work | there are several :P |
| 16:14.50 | A1win | "links variables"? |
| 16:14.56 | JManV|Work | like a linked list? |
| 16:14.56 | TheAlmaity | A variable variable |
| 16:15.05 | JademusSreg | Trigger gods? |
| 16:15.06 | TheAlmaity | there are integer variables, unit variables, i need a variable variable |
| 16:15.09 | Skizot | you set the variable as the value whenever it's changed |
| 16:15.15 | A1win | you might want to use a record then |
| 16:15.45 | JManV|Work | yeah, record seems like a good fit |
| 16:15.48 | A1win | it creates a new variable type that can have several variables in it |
| 16:15.54 | JademusSreg | And unto the void the Lrd spake WHILE(TRUE) and there was loop. |
| 16:16.01 | TheAlmaity | Sounds like what i need, how do i do that? |
| 16:16.11 | A1win | new - record |
| 16:16.14 | JManV|Work | create a new record and add variables to it |
| 16:16.29 | JManV|Work | then you have to instantiate the record |
| 16:16.42 | JManV|Work | as a new variable of that record type, which can also be an array |
| 16:16.43 | JademusSreg | A record is a type of thing like a box, it holds other variables. |
| 16:17.14 | TheAlmaity | Ummm... how do i make a record? Theres no variable of type record and when i search the trigger actions for record all i get is movie related stuff |
| 16:17.34 | JademusSreg | A record declaration defines the kind of box, and the stuff that will be inside it, and the Record variable you will make is an instance of the box. |
| 16:17.51 | A1win | TheAlmaity, you create the record in the "global" area first |
| 16:17.52 | JademusSreg | Or in the case of an array of record type, a bunch of similar boxes. |
| 16:18.00 | A1win | where all the triggers and action definitions etc. are |
| 16:18.16 | A1win | it's a new definition, so you don't do it inside a trigger |
| 16:18.49 | TheAlmaity | ok, i found it |
| 16:19.08 | JManV|Work | there's a little picture of a record on the toolbar :P |
| 16:19.13 | TheAlmaity | Ummmm... how do i add existing variables to it? |
| 16:19.27 | TheAlmaity | the variables i need are some that already exist |
| 16:19.29 | A1win | you don't |
| 16:19.38 | JManV|Work | you know, those large, black CDs. CDs being those things mp3s used to come on :P |
| 16:20.02 | TheAlmaity | Jman, the top bar with the buttons doesnt scale on resolution, half of it is missing for me :p |
| 16:20.07 | A1win | you'll need to recreate them |
| 16:20.33 | JManV|Work | yeah, that sucks about the toolbar |
| 16:20.47 | JManV|Work | i was trying to do a tutorial in 720p mode once. that sucked |
| 16:21.10 | JademusSreg | I need a nap. |
| 16:21.12 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 16:21.14 | TheAlmaity | ah fudge >.> Well, at least i know of records now, i'll just use a bunch of if the elses in my new trigger as remaking all the variables and modifying the old triggers is more work... |
| 16:21.17 | TheAlmaity | cya man |
| 16:22.47 | TheAlmaity | any of you a bored terrainer? There's this map idea i had, but i don't have the patience to make a neat terrain >.> |
| 16:23.52 | JManV|Work | i've seen a few threads on the forums for terrainers looking for something to do |
| 16:24.03 | JManV|Work | i personally suck a terrain :) |
| 16:24.07 | TheAlmaity | Ill check then |
| 16:24.17 | JManV|Work | triggers represent! |
| 16:24.20 | TheAlmaity | Im not bad at terraining... Im just bad at actually seeing it through to the end xD |
| 16:24.30 | JManV|Work | makes the "triggers" gang symbol. |
| 16:24.39 | TheAlmaity | lol |
| 16:24.45 | TheAlmaity | Triggers and data ftw |
| 16:25.08 | JManV|Work | yeah, i've gotten pretty good with data, but i still don't especially like it |
| 16:25.16 | TheAlmaity | They should add ways to make terrain using triggers (throws together a bunch of loops and maths and get instant awesome terrain) |
| 16:25.30 | JManV|Work | they totally should |
| 16:25.47 | JManV|Work | they've suggested that they might be willing if they saw a need for it |
| 16:25.57 | JManV|Work | i don't know how they couldn't see the need for it, though |
| 16:26.29 | JManV|Work | that's one of the first things i looked for when i started mapping |
| 16:26.46 | JManV|Work | "can i make random terrain" |
| 16:27.06 | TheAlmaity | yea, that'd be awesome if you could just randomize terrain... im pretty sure some neat maps could be made that way |
| 16:27.28 | JManV|Work | and we would really leverage map despite limited map size |
| 16:28.28 | TheAlmaity | Yea, changing the terrain while the map is running would really help |
| 16:29.23 | JManV|Work | so anything with the custom map tourneys yet? |
| 16:29.58 | TheAlmaity | Ah yea, didnt set that up yet >.> Still have to, and have to talk with Wolf first. Itll probably be snipers first |
| 16:30.37 | JManV|Work | was a little curious about that |
| 16:31.05 | JManV|Work | not many maps are that competitive tho |
| 16:31.14 | TheAlmaity | or balanced |
| 16:31.30 | JManV|Work | yeah |
| 16:31.35 | TheAlmaity | The reason im taking snipers is because it CANT be imbalanced... One shot = Kill. |
| 16:31.41 | TheAlmaity | its all about reactions and/or strategy |
| 16:32.37 | A1win | nothing can be imbalanced if they're all exactly the same |
| 16:33.18 | JManV|Work | maybe one day we can have a pokemon tourney :P |
| 16:33.32 | JManV|Work | ... that will prolly be some time from now, tho |
| 16:33.48 | TheAlmaity | lol |
| 16:33.52 | TheAlmaity | hows it coming along? |
| 16:34.13 | A1win | mmh I need to plan what kind of upgrades will be available to which slot so I don't end up making too many or too few slots |
| 16:34.48 | JManV|Work | really well |
| 16:34.57 | JManV|Work | i'm hoping to have a new video sometime soon |
| 16:35.10 | JManV|Work | which will mark about 60% engine completion |
| 16:35.15 | A1win | hull is for life, life armor, life regeneration, inventory capacity... shields for shields, shield armor, shield regeneration |
| 16:35.27 | A1win | or maybe I should combine the shield slot with some other tech slot? |
| 16:35.44 | TheAlmaity | what you working on A1win? |
| 16:35.45 | A1win | so the item you put there gives you stats for your shields and something else as well |
| 16:35.46 | JManV|Work | level building will take some time tho after the engine is done |
| 16:35.52 | A1win | TheAlmaity, a mech RPG |
| 16:35.56 | JManV|Work | i'm hoping ppl will want to help with the level building |
| 16:36.00 | A1win | with short co-op missions |
| 16:36.41 | TheAlmaity | nice. Jmanv, what exactly do you mean by level building? Like creating locations or something else? |
| 16:37.20 | JManV|Work | yeah, like building the world and quests and buildings and such |
| 16:38.50 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/mech/Screenshot2011-03-16%2018_37_54.jpg |
| 16:38.52 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/mech/Screenshot2011-03-16%2018_38_03.jpg |
| 16:39.21 | TheAlmaity | Looks nice |
| 16:39.28 | JManV|Work | if you play a sound at a point or unit, is it only audible by the players that can see it? |
| 16:39.56 | A1win | I'd guess so |
| 16:39.58 | Skittles | I dont think you need to see it |
| 16:40.08 | Skittles | but it's like a sound grid or w/e |
| 16:40.14 | TheAlmaity | I think you need to see and have your camera close enough |
| 16:40.20 | Skittles | dies as the distance increases |
| 16:40.32 | TheAlmaity | In Voidcraft if you zoomed out too far you couldnt hear sound |
| 16:40.43 | JManV|Work | ah |
| 16:40.56 | JManV|Work | well, i'm more worried about ppl not supposed to hear it hearing it |
| 16:41.12 | JManV|Work | they might be close, but don't have visibility of the area |
| 16:41.23 | TheAlmaity | Im pretty sure visibility is needed |
| 16:41.28 | JManV|Work | ok |
| 16:41.45 | A1win | isn't there "play sound at point" too? that might not need visibility |
| 16:41.50 | JManV|Work | that's my experience with other sounds, just wanted to make sure |
| 16:41.56 | TheAlmaity | If you want to test, create a unit with the sight range of 1, place it beside some marines (but it cant see em) and have the marines attack something |
| 16:42.22 | TheAlmaity | then use triggers to share/unshare vision with the marines |
| 16:43.18 | JManV|Work | not sure this sound effect is doing it for me... |
| 16:43.53 | JManV|Work | i have zeratul blink in for the animation when a pokeball pops |
| 16:44.06 | JManV|Work | but zeratul blink the sound isn't quite "poof"-y enough, imo |
| 16:44.24 | TheAlmaity | im pretty sure you can DL custom sounds on a million sites... |
| 16:44.41 | JManV|Work | good point. hadn't even thought of that |
| 16:44.57 | TheAlmaity | =D |
| 16:45.10 | JManV|Work | although i decided yesterday i think i want to let people submit sounds of pokemon saying their own names |
| 16:45.23 | JManV|Work | so i can actually have the pokemon talk in game |
| 16:45.35 | JManV|Work | like you walk close to one on the map, and it will say its name |
| 16:45.45 | A1win | hehe |
| 16:45.48 | JManV|Work | was also thinking for menu/pokedex sounds |
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| 16:46.10 | TheAlmaity | yea, just make sure it doesnt take too much space :p |
| 16:46.20 | JManV|Work | it shouldn't |
| 16:46.20 | TheAlmaity | otherwise custom sounds is a great idea |
| 16:46.38 | JManV|Work | i mean, it'd be like 100+ sound files, but they should all be very short |
| 16:47.06 | TheAlmaity | A lot of maps have great visual effects and such stuff, but sounds are the things people rarely think about... at least in my experience |
| 16:47.29 | JManV|Work | it can be hard to get them right |
| 16:47.44 | JManV|Work | in my experience |
| 16:47.44 | TheAlmaity | I once wanted to make my own unit sounds, and i managed to get it protossy, but never actually did everything |
| 16:48.06 | TheAlmaity | brb |
| 16:49.02 | JManV|Work | yeah i definitely don't want to record all the sounds myself |
| 16:49.07 | JManV|Work | 1) i don't have the voice for it |
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| 16:49.16 | JManV|Work | 2) i want some variety |
| 16:49.21 | JManV|Work | 3) that's a lot of work |
| 16:49.35 | A1win | well, you can keep adding the sounds even after the map is released |
| 16:49.48 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:50.18 | JManV|Work | oh yeah, definitely |
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| 16:50.41 | JManV|Work | but i'd like to get sound effects on the popular pokemon fairly early |
| 16:51.22 | JManV|Work | i might record Probichu myself :P |
| 16:51.47 | JManV|Work | skiz wants SkizBot (SCV) to have a voice like t-pain :P |
| 16:51.53 | JManV|Work | i'm all about it |
| 16:53.27 | JManV|Work | i like those little touches that add a lot :) |
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| 16:54.48 | JManV|Work | ha oops |
| 16:55.49 | A1win | mmh... stupid bnet lag, navigating the mission UI feels clumsy |
| 16:56.07 | A1win | oh well I guess you get used to it |
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| 16:56.40 | JManV|Work | does it? i've never know dialogs to be noticably laggy on bnet |
| 16:56.40 | Clord | lol truly |
| 16:57.09 | Clord | dialogs are laggy in bnet matches.... it is easily noticable when there is buttton what closes one |
| 16:57.14 | JManV|Work | hmm. how do i make this unit not push his friend when he moves |
| 16:57.29 | A1win | all communication lags over bnet, obviously |
| 16:57.48 | JManV|Work | yeah, but dialogs don't requires split-second responsiveness |
| 16:57.58 | A1win | but it's still noticable :P |
| 16:58.05 | JManV|Work | well, maybe 1/4 second responsiveness |
| 16:58.21 | JManV|Work | but anything faster than that is usually unnoticeable |
| 16:59.22 | JManV|Work | wait, were we talking about dialog item used or inventory item used earlier? |
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| 17:00.07 | A1win | huh? |
| 17:00.09 | A1win | dialogs |
| 17:00.36 | JManV|Work | ah |
| 17:00.44 | Clord | that one map with dialog based inventory it is insanely noticable |
| 17:00.46 | JManV|Work | for some reason i was thinking inventory |
| 17:00.56 | Clord | but good map lol |
| 17:01.23 | JManV|Work | i use one trigger per dialog for dialog callbacks |
| 17:01.31 | TheAlmaity | Back |
| 17:01.44 | JManV|Work | which is to say, about 10 triggers fire every time a player uses a dialog item |
| 17:01.49 | JManV|Work | and it's still quite responsibe |
| 17:01.51 | JManV|Work | v |
| 17:02.23 | JManV|Work | although i do use conditions whenever possible |
| 17:02.30 | A1win | triggers can easily be fast, network always has the 125ms lag |
| 17:02.37 | JManV|Work | but when the dialog item is in an array, it's not possible |
| 17:02.40 | TheAlmaity | lol. Ive made an entire dialog menu that runs through a single trigger. Similar to the windows start menu (One button opens one menu, buttons on that menu open another dialog) |
| 17:03.01 | A1win | JManV|Work, yes it is, you can create custom condition definitions |
| 17:03.11 | JManV|Work | oh, that's true |
| 17:03.35 | JManV|Work | either way, my entire combat system is dialog based |
| 17:03.38 | JManV|Work | no noticeable lag |
| 17:03.40 | TheAlmaity | with dialog item arrays, i usually run a loop with the condition like this one: Attribute Button[(Picked integer)] == (Used dialog item) |
| 17:03.53 | JManV|Work | ofc, it actually waits 0.5 seconds before attacking anyways |
| 17:03.56 | TheAlmaity | then i set a local variable to that |
| 17:04.05 | JManV|Work | same |
| 17:04.12 | A1win | how can you not notice 125ms lag O.o |
| 17:04.17 | Clord | THE Card Game EU/US/SEA ^^ that map relies insanely to dialogs... basically almost everything user does in that map is via dialogs.... |
| 17:04.35 | JManV|Work | i never noticed it |
| 17:04.48 | JManV|Work | maybe i noticed it, but it never had an impact on anything |
| 17:04.53 | A1win | hehe |
| 17:05.01 | JManV|Work | i have one dialog that opens another |
| 17:05.03 | A1win | it just doesn't feel elegant |
| 17:05.06 | JManV|Work | it feels quite responsive |
| 17:05.08 | A1win | but nothing to do about it |
| 17:05.39 | Clord | yeah... would be annoying to navigate some options made entirely from csutom dialogs |
| 17:05.40 | Clord | lol |
| 17:05.52 | Clord | with many sub menus etc XD |
| 17:06.26 | JManV|Work | except for map movement, basically my entire game is dialogs |
| 17:07.02 | Clord | hehe same here..... |
| 17:07.11 | Clord | but I would rather call it map |
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| 17:07.43 | JManV|Work | heh |
| 17:07.51 | JManV|Work | i typically call mine a game |
| 17:07.56 | JManV|Work | subconcious i think |
| 17:08.14 | JManV|Work | but that really is what it is |
| 17:08.19 | Tobin- | Depends on what/how much you change |
| 17:08.29 | A1win | only the technical term for it is a map |
| 17:08.48 | JManV|Work | well, i doubt i'll use a single object in my game that isn't green |
| 17:08.53 | JManV|Work | so that's a lot of change |
| 17:10.11 | JManV|Work | except its not just 1 map |
| 17:10.37 | TheAlmaity | btw, JmanV, i want either a pokemon or a character named after me :p |
| 17:10.59 | TheAlmaity | I cna try to make a simple custom model, lol |
| 17:11.04 | JManV|Work | generally that's reserved for contributors :P |
| 17:11.24 | Clord | I wondered why there was only one comment in blog post... what was posted 8 hours ago |
| 17:11.32 | Clord | it seems that posting comments broke down |
| 17:11.32 | Clord | XD |
| 17:11.54 | JManV|Work | but since your level of awesomeness is high, i might consider it :P |
| 17:11.59 | TheAlmaity | lol |
| 17:12.22 | TheAlmaity | You got some sort of storyline for your map? If not, i could try and work something out, or think of other pokemon if you need some :p |
| 17:12.47 | Clord | Level 1, Sephiroth type: wind likes: chocolate dislikes: ... description: now you see him, now you don't... SLASH |
| 17:12.49 | Clord | XD |
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| 17:13.03 | Tobin- | Did you go with Charbat jman? |
| 17:13.04 | A1win | mmh that reminds me that I also need a "storyline", though it needs to be per-player and work so that it doesn't interfere with other players' story lines |
| 17:13.07 | Clord | ^^ |
| 17:13.41 | JManV|Work | i'm totally going with charbat |
| 17:13.47 | Clord | speciality: 10% chance go all emo and escape from you |
| 17:13.50 | Tobin- | sweet |
| 17:14.10 | JManV|Work | http://i56.tinypic.com/28vxi13.jpg this is the depth of my story thus far :) |
| 17:14.13 | Tobin- | Any others you need names for? I think its fun thinking them up. |
| 17:14.31 | JManV|Work | for pokemon names, i've been using my thread to let people kind of spit-ball ideas |
| 17:14.34 | TheAlmaity | lol @ pic |
| 17:14.48 | A1win | JManV|Work, you totally need to make that stalker run around on the floor while the player reads the text |
| 17:14.52 | JManV|Work | although i've been thinking about making an independant forum for game ideas and such |
| 17:14.58 | A1win | like run a bit, stop, run to another direction, stop, etc |
| 17:15.10 | JManV|Work | a1: that's actually what i'm working on right now :P |
| 17:15.14 | A1win | hehe |
| 17:15.20 | Clord | so so cliche |
| 17:15.22 | JManV|Work | problem is, he pushes the prof when he does so |
| 17:15.23 | Clord | also it is robot |
| 17:15.29 | Clord | errrm not really robot but |
| 17:15.30 | TheAlmaity | "Panicky", a tiny collosus that just keeps moving. |
| 17:15.38 | A1win | make your ok button a bit wider, it looks too packed up like that ;p |
| 17:15.40 | Clord | you would think protoss can way more easily stay still than dog |
| 17:16.03 | JManV|Work | heh |
| 17:16.14 | Tobin- | Make sure you make the opening really long and boring |
| 17:16.17 | Tobin- | just like the original |
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| 17:16.24 | A1win | :P |
| 17:16.24 | TheAlmaity | Yea, otherwise you cant call it a pokemon game |
| 17:16.27 | Tobin- | where every player is just spamming A as fast as possible. |
| 17:16.34 | JManV|Work | the text actually scrolls like the game does |
| 17:16.44 | TheAlmaity | Slow and painful? |
| 17:16.47 | Clord | it probably has something to having 16 similar starts in row |
| 17:16.48 | JManV|Work | but there's you can spam the ok button |
| 17:16.48 | Clord | lol |
| 17:16.58 | JManV|Work | and also there's a text speed option once you're in game |
| 17:17.14 | Tobin- | nice |
| 17:17.17 | TheAlmaity | Ok, lets hope theres a "Fast and relatively painless" option |
| 17:17.25 | Tobin- | skip? |
| 17:17.26 | Clord | as far I recall.. pokemon games start quite similarly :) |
| 17:17.28 | JManV|Work | very slow to instant |
| 17:17.48 | JManV|Work | instant is no writeout |
| 17:18.07 | Clord | I once tested writeout thing for card description lol |
| 17:18.10 | Clord | it looked cool but |
| 17:18.11 | JManV|Work | yeah, they all start basically the same |
| 17:18.17 | Clord | not really "gameplay" friendly |
| 17:18.25 | JManV|Work | yeah, i hate text writeout, personally |
| 17:18.32 | JManV|Work | which is why i added the option right away |
| 17:18.45 | A1win | writeout is nice for very short stuff like location names in cutscenes etc. |
| 17:18.47 | JManV|Work | but for the intro, it really boosts the feel of the game |
| 17:19.01 | A1win | and in cutscenes you're waiting anyway |
| 17:19.10 | Clord | you could do in beginning "want writeout?" then "hell yeah" and "what the hell is writeout?" button |
| 17:19.12 | Clord | buttons |
| 17:19.26 | A1win | -> "watch and learn" |
| 17:19.27 | JManV|Work | nah. for the first cutscene it's mandatory |
| 17:19.33 | JManV|Work | but you only go through that once |
| 17:19.37 | TheAlmaity | you forgot the "NO! PLEASE NO! ANYTHING BUT THAT! JUST NO WRITEOUT! AAAAAAAH!" Button |
| 17:19.52 | A1win | which has writeout itself |
| 17:19.56 | TheAlmaity | Yea |
| 17:19.56 | Clord | final fantasy vii does it well.. text is just there |
| 17:19.58 | A1win | very slow writeout |
| 17:20.09 | JManV|Work | after that, he menu button shows up, and i think i'll actually prompt players to look over the game options |
| 17:20.16 | Clord | 10 seconds duration for user's pleasure |
| 17:20.26 | Tobin- | lol |
| 17:20.48 | A1win | NO... ! ... PL... EA... SE... NO... ! ... |
| 17:20.56 | TheAlmaity | Breaking News: 75% of people that played a pokemon based sc2 mod suicided after the first 9 seconds |
| 17:21.04 | Clord | you could keep writeout anyways even in fastest if it lasts like 0.1s XD |
| 17:21.20 | JManV|Work | there are other important options in the gm options too, like mouse vs WASD and music selection |
| 17:21.35 | Clord | to read faster than such delay... you would need to be hypnotized |
| 17:21.45 | Clord | XD |
| 17:21.50 | A1win | bah now I'm stuck reading IRC instead of mapping again |
| 17:22.12 | TheAlmaity | A1win, i got 2 screens so i can do both! MWUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 17:22.18 | A1win | :P |
| 17:22.26 | A1win | well I don't have trigger editor on fullscreen anyway |
| 17:22.33 | Tobin- | How does that work with the mouse? Does it just scroll right on over to the other screen? |
| 17:22.45 | JManV|Work | i have two screen and IRC still sidetracks me constantly :P |
| 17:22.48 | A1win | Tobin-, yeah |
| 17:23.07 | Tobin- | The ping sound on that was like 4 seconds late. |
| 17:23.10 | A1win | Tobin-, you can change from settings where the monitors are located relative to each other |
| 17:23.18 | TheAlmaity | brb |
| 17:23.21 | Clord | hopefully 1.3.0 is not developed in japan ;) lame joke but oh well... I want it so much |
| 17:24.00 | Clord | http://kenashcorp.bandcamp.com/track/tasteless |
| 17:24.54 | Clord | two guys posted that link for me |
| 17:25.01 | Clord | it is supposed to be good music lol |
| 17:26.06 | JManV|Work | hmmm. so how do i make the stalker not move to professor without making the prof immobile? |
| 17:26.25 | A1win | put a pathing blocker under him? ;p |
| 17:26.42 | A1win | or give him a footprint |
| 17:27.18 | JManV|Work | i can't do a pathing blocker, the scene is placed on the map |
| 17:27.29 | A1win | dynamic one? |
| 17:27.55 | Tobin- | Give him a different collision flag or remove all of them? |
| 17:27.57 | A1win | ...just order it to move around him |
| 17:28.17 | JManV|Work | hmmm |
| 17:28.35 | Clord | make it turn invisible... stealth mode when too near professor |
| 17:28.39 | Clord | then it looks like passing throught |
| 17:28.40 | Clord | XD |
| 17:28.48 | Clord | such advanced special pokemon |
| 17:28.49 | Clord | lol |
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| 17:28.56 | Clord | errm pocket warrior |
| 17:29.50 | JManV|Work | heh |
| 17:29.50 | A1win | speaking of which, any brilliant name ideas for the mech map? ;ppp |
| 17:29.52 | A1win | -pp |
| 17:30.15 | Clord | mechwarrior |
| 17:30.17 | TheAlmaity | change push priority to 0 of the stalker? |
| 17:30.19 | JManV|Work | well, considering i don't have a brilliant name for my own map... :P |
| 17:30.25 | A1win | ;x |
| 17:30.28 | A1win | meh warrior |
| 17:30.31 | Clord | ^^ |
| 17:30.32 | Tobin- | Pokecraft jman |
| 17:30.39 | Clord | >_> |
| 17:30.43 | Clord | gay... so gay |
| 17:30.43 | TheAlmaity | btw, whats the stalker called? |
| 17:31.06 | Clord | happy... so happy |
| 17:31.07 | Clord | ^^ |
| 17:31.16 | JManV|Work | leaning towards Stalkoise |
| 17:31.27 | Clord | sturkoise... |
| 17:31.32 | JManV|Work | oh wait, it was Colostoise |
| 17:31.32 | Clord | bah |
| 17:31.52 | JManV|Work | and we were stuck on stalker |
| 17:31.53 | TheAlmaity | Stalkoise evolves into Immortoise and then into Colostoise |
| 17:31.57 | Clord | just don't use something like "erostaker" |
| 17:31.59 | Clord | lol |
| 17:32.01 | Clord | erostalker I mean |
| 17:32.33 | A1win | stalketoid |
| 17:32.34 | Tobin- | Metastalk |
| 17:32.41 | Clord | in fact....... you should make sure that you don't accidently mean some not allowed word in some language XD |
| 17:32.47 | TheAlmaity | lol |
| 17:32.54 | Clord | stalkerzoid |
| 17:32.55 | Tobin- | Metastalk - Abilities: harden |
| 17:33.15 | Clord | stalkeraper |
| 17:33.40 | Clord | okay something more "serious" |
| 17:33.47 | JManV|Work | well i was thinking of making him a water pokemon, since there aren't a lot of water units in sc2, and he kind of reminds me of a water strider |
| 17:33.48 | A1win | paparazzi |
| 17:33.56 | Clord | stalkeroid |
| 17:34.02 | JManV|Work | heh |
| 17:34.07 | JManV|Work | i like that, actually |
| 17:34.28 | TheAlmaity | Stalktoise > Immortoise > Colostoise |
| 17:34.38 | JManV|Work | thing it needs to be Stalkerzoid tho |
| 17:35.02 | Tobin- | that sounds like something out of that old toonami show... zoids? |
| 17:35.03 | Clord | stalkeroid -> immoroid -> coloroid/colosroid |
| 17:36.01 | Clord | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoids |
| 17:36.12 | A1win | uff I'm stuck |
| 17:36.17 | JManV|Work | well, i'm fairly certain at this point that the starting water pokemon will be "Squirtry" (Sentry) |
| 17:36.28 | Clord | http://www.animepalm.com/images/zoids.png |
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| 17:36.44 | Clord | I randomly remembered probably that |
| 17:36.50 | Clord | I don't however ever have watched such show |
| 17:36.51 | Clord | lol |
| 17:37.00 | TheAlmaity | lol |
| 17:37.22 | Tobin- | Me neither, it just popped into my head. |
| 17:37.25 | Clord | awwwww... he thinks he has right to freedom |
| 17:37.32 | Clord | capture! |
| 17:37.32 | Clord | XD |
| 17:37.38 | JManV|Work | squirty = experimental squirt gun gone sentient :P |
| 17:38.01 | Clord | so you are not gonna pretend that they are all organic? XD |
| 17:38.04 | Clord | good good ^^ |
| 17:38.10 | Clord | but what about intelligent like marine? |
| 17:38.26 | Clord | he is definitely one with high IQ lol |
| 17:38.28 | TheAlmaity | marines are intelligent? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Good one |
| 17:38.33 | Clord | :) |
| 17:38.40 | Clord | before brainwash |
| 17:38.41 | Clord | lol |
| 17:38.53 | JManV|Work | well, they're minature |
| 17:38.56 | Clord | "for the rebel.... for the dominion!" |
| 17:38.56 | Clord | XD |
| 17:39.01 | JManV|Work | they're not normal human sized |
| 17:39.10 | A1win | gnomes |
| 17:39.17 | JManV|Work | and they're created that escaped from a video game |
| 17:39.23 | JManV|Work | so they're semi-digital |
| 17:39.33 | TheAlmaity | *remembers digimon* |
| 17:39.35 | Clord | if they are like holo beings |
| 17:39.41 | JManV|Work | or at least they once were |
| 17:39.41 | Clord | then lol |
| 17:39.42 | A1win | what are your pokeballs called? |
| 17:39.51 | JManV|Work | grav spheres |
| 17:40.06 | A1win | sounds weird :P |
| 17:40.10 | JManV|Work | or grav balls |
| 17:40.10 | Clord | USB sticks |
| 17:40.13 | Clord | ^^ |
| 17:40.13 | A1win | haha |
| 17:40.25 | JManV|Work | but i'm thinking ppl might report that as being dirty sounding |
| 17:40.50 | TheAlmaity | dont do grav balls. Please dont. |
| 17:40.52 | Clord | as far I recall.. implying is not bannable |
| 17:41.11 | Clord | I mean if you don't tell it what you mean with them |
| 17:41.13 | JManV|Work | they are graviton beams from the pheonix |
| 17:41.14 | TheAlmaity | EVERYTHING is bannable. Srsly. |
| 17:41.22 | Clord | ^^ |
| 17:41.31 | Clord | would be funny if kerrigan was bannable |
| 17:41.34 | A1win | grav sounds more like gravity though |
| 17:41.54 | Clord | also balls...... in slang it means testicles.. but |
| 17:41.57 | TheAlmaity | Gravy spheres |
| 17:42.08 | JManV|Work | graviton balls? |
| 17:42.11 | TheAlmaity | Just call it Graviton Orbs |
| 17:42.19 | Clord | datasphere |
| 17:42.28 | Clord | many fantasy etc RPG games use that word |
| 17:42.29 | TheAlmaity | or "G-orbs" |
| 17:42.29 | Clord | I think |
| 17:42.31 | Clord | ^^ |
| 17:42.58 | TheAlmaity | I think G-Orbs would be good. Or datasphere sounds nice as well |
| 17:43.19 | JManV|Work | i like datasphere, personally |
| 17:43.22 | Clord | blizzard is one what helps your map to get played... 1.3.0 patch is coming |
| 17:43.29 | A1win | yeah datasphere sounds cool |
| 17:43.29 | Clord | and I'm slacking |
| 17:43.47 | Clord | hehe if I remember right |
| 17:43.51 | Clord | FFX has dataspheres too |
| 17:43.57 | Clord | or something |
| 17:44.26 | JManV|Work | so my stalker wanders now. it's pretty cool |
| 17:44.38 | JManV|Work | need to make him poof back into a ball now |
| 17:45.00 | Clord | oh it was from 8-bit theater comic... Red Mage went temporally insane after he looked to datasphere.. or something |
| 17:45.14 | Clord | wanders... |
| 17:45.17 | Clord | oh god XD |
| 17:45.31 | JManV|Work | what? |
| 17:45.41 | JManV|Work | i'm just doing it for the "cute factor" :P |
| 17:46.00 | TheAlmaity | make it run around really quickly as if in panic |
| 17:46.07 | TheAlmaity | that would then be the "fun factor" |
| 17:46.20 | JManV|Work | he just kind of meanders |
| 17:46.29 | A1win | and then explore into a bloody mess for the violence factor |
| 17:46.32 | A1win | *explode |
| 17:46.35 | JManV|Work | heh |
| 17:46.48 | JManV|Work | i though of having two units fight behind prof |
| 17:47.06 | JManV|Work | and then one run away and the other give chase |
| 17:47.15 | TheAlmaity | or have them kill each other. |
| 17:47.27 | JManV|Work | you're out for blood :P |
| 17:48.08 | Clord | amnesia the dark descent custom story go! |
| 17:48.08 | Clord | XD |
| 17:48.14 | Clord | I shall fear no dark |
| 17:48.32 | A1win | hmm... wondering if the players need to have their upgrade items in their inventory when they add it to the mech, or does the upgrade UI also list the ones purcacheable from the shop, or what :s |
| 17:48.51 | A1win | taking them via inventory just seems a bit unnecessary |
| 17:49.09 | JManV|Work | you said what now? |
| 17:49.11 | A1win | but they also need to be able to do it from the inventory... |
| 17:49.36 | A1win | huh? |
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| 17:51.37 | A1win | :o how about having the upgrade slots just hovering above the mech itself instead of having a background |
| 17:51.47 | A1win | zoom in so that the mech is at the center of the screen |
| 17:52.00 | JManV|Work | that could be cool |
| 17:52.01 | A1win | can place shop on the left side of screen, inevntory stays at right |
| 17:52.15 | A1win | so the same ui works as shop and upgrade menu |
| 17:52.18 | JManV|Work | ehehe |
| 17:52.23 | JManV|Work | that's stalker is adorable :P |
| 17:52.48 | A1win | stalkadore |
| 17:52.54 | TheAlmaity | Create a Pedobear pokemon |
| 17:53.13 | JManV|Work | i could make him wander to random point, then wait a half a second, in a loop until the player moves on with the dialog |
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| 17:57.32 | JManV|Work | i think i will actually :P |
| 17:58.08 | JManV|Work | then when they move to the next dialog, he'll walk back to the prof and poof into a ball |
| 17:58.16 | TheAlmaity | :) If you need a beta tester btw, or EU host, PM me on mapster :p |
| 17:59.44 | JManV|Work | i was actually thinking of EU hosting it myself |
| 18:00.03 | JManV|Work | but i will consider that |
| 18:00.18 | JManV|Work | and either way, i will definitely eventually need EU testers |
| 18:00.59 | JManV|Work | soon after i finish the video, i want to release my building designer |
| 18:01.24 | JManV|Work | if there's enough EU players who want to make buildings for the game, i'll probably have to figure out how i want to EU publish then |
| 18:01.27 | TheAlmaity | i gtg for a while, ill keep this open though ;) |
| 18:01.42 | JManV|Work | stay cool man |
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| 18:05.56 | Bounty | >< |
| 18:06.48 | JManV|Work | B-to-the-Ounty- Bounty |
| 18:06.50 | JManV|Work | sup man |
| 18:06.55 | Bounty | n2m, u? |
| 18:07.16 | Bounty | Speed-Craft has 3 hours played! |
| 18:07.17 | JManV|Work | jack |
| 18:07.18 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:07.40 | Bounty | I think i might have found a major problem |
| 18:07.56 | JManV|Work | actually, i'm amking a stalker dance around the screen :P |
| 18:08.09 | Bounty | After playing my map for awhile last night, as soon as i got up i had the feeling as if i had drank to much |
| 18:08.21 | Bounty | and i had a sort of tunnel vision |
| 18:08.29 | Bounty | so idk if it was the map... or |
| 18:09.11 | Bounty | >< |
| 18:09.37 | Bounty | dancing stalkers is always fun |
| 18:09.52 | JManV|Work | yeah |
| 18:09.59 | JManV|Work | too bad they don't have a dance animation :P |
| 18:10.07 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:10.20 | Bounty | nothing wrong with manually making them dance |
| 18:10.53 | JManV|Work | almost funniert this way, since he just wanders around the screen |
| 18:10.59 | A1win | shower is awesome, got some cool ideas there again: inventory at right, shop inventory at left, mech at middle with upgrade slots on it... select an upgrade slot and it automatically filters the shop and cargo inventories to show only items that fit into that slot, and adds cancel buttons at the bottom of each of those inventories... also drop-down menu filters for each inventory to filter items based on type, and if you select an item in either ... |
| 18:11.06 | A1win | ... inventory and then click on an upgrade button, it remembers the item you had selected and keeps it selected if the item is still visible after filtering |
| 18:11.26 | JManV|Work | hahahahahahahaha |
| 18:11.41 | JManV|Work | i did random points in a loop instead of preset points |
| 18:11.50 | JManV|Work | he almost looks frantic |
| 18:11.58 | A1win | then another idea: each player has their own shop inventory, and the items there are based on the contacts that player has, which also define which missions can be randomized in a game he's in |
| 18:12.07 | Bounty | JManV |
| 18:12.18 | Bounty | got a quick question for u, could use some advice on this fork im at |
| 18:12.21 | A1win | and in the item's tooltip in the shop it says Provider: Contact Name Here |
| 18:12.22 | Bounty | I have two choices |
| 18:12.50 | Bounty | For my next project i can either make it so you can run and cast/attack and deal with the crappy animation |
| 18:12.56 | Bounty | or make it so u cant run and cast |
| 18:13.38 | JManV|Work | crappy animation? |
| 18:13.41 | JManV|Work | oh |
| 18:13.44 | JManV|Work | running and casting |
| 18:13.47 | Bounty | yeah, no animation blending |
| 18:13.57 | Bounty | i mean there are ways to make it look smoother |
| 18:14.09 | Bounty | like making the animation so fast it goes right back to the run animation |
| 18:15.24 | JManV|Work | do you need a cast animation if they're runing? |
| 18:15.31 | Bounty | yeah |
| 18:15.45 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkUFQ6HZYJk |
| 18:15.49 | Bounty | thats what im making |
| 18:15.57 | Bounty | and yes it will have jump to |
| 18:17.20 | Bounty | i mean technically they would only need to appear to do that charge thing while moving |
| 18:17.22 | JManV|Work | hmmm. if the gameplay requires moving and casting, that's your first priority imo |
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| 18:17.29 | JManV|Work | you can make it look better later |
| 18:17.30 | Bounty | once it casts u c ant move |
| 18:17.42 | Bounty | it doesnt require it |
| 18:17.44 | JManV|Work | but i'd much rather sacrifice looks for gameplay than the other way around |
| 18:17.49 | Bounty | yeah |
| 18:18.04 | Bounty | u combine attacks to make new ones |
| 18:18.16 | JManV|Work | ther are still some old, crappy looking games that are still quite playable |
| 18:18.21 | Bounty | that game has 3 types, but im only going to have 2 |
| 18:18.24 | JManV|Work | because the gameplay is stellar |
| 18:18.36 | Bounty | yeah, that game is my favorite game of all time, to this day |
| 18:18.42 | Bounty | i have it on my PC :) rom ftw |
| 18:18.47 | JManV|Work | civilization 2 had dated graphics even for it's time, but gameplay was epic, so ppl played it |
| 18:19.15 | Bounty | only bad part is i HAVE to use wow models |
| 18:19.19 | Bounty | so many animations <3 |
| 18:19.26 | Bounty | like itll look just like that game lol |
| 18:19.35 | Bounty | knockdown, getting hit... all animated |
| 18:20.13 | Bounty | do animations add to the mp3's file size? |
| 18:20.32 | JManV|Work | m3? |
| 18:20.32 | JManV|Work | absolutely. |
| 18:20.39 | Bounty | how much? alot? |
| 18:20.50 | Bounty | yeah *m3 lol |
| 18:20.53 | Bounty | mp3 loololol |
| 18:21.06 | JManV|Work | textures are almost always going to require the most amount of space |
| 18:21.18 | Bounty | yeah, im not going to use the newer wow models |
| 18:21.20 | JManV|Work | by a large margin |
| 18:21.22 | Bounty | they are like 2mb each |
| 18:21.25 | Bounty | the old ones though |
| 18:21.28 | Bounty | are like 500kb |
| 18:21.44 | Bounty | total, textures and m3 |
| 18:22.11 | JManV|Work | so it will have an impact, but you could probably get 3-4 animations for the space of a high-res texture |
| 18:22.17 | JManV|Work | at least |
| 18:22.29 | Bounty | wow, they take up that much space? |
| 18:22.33 | Bounty | that sounds like alot... |
| 18:23.00 | JManV|Work | i'm just guessing |
| 18:23.10 | JManV|Work | i'm no model expert |
| 18:23.23 | Bounty | i think the hardest part about this project will be map space |
| 18:23.30 | Bounty | 10.5 mb is pushing it |
| 18:23.40 | Bounty | 15 would be good |
| 18:23.53 | JManV|Work | you could use a mod |
| 18:24.01 | JManV|Work | but then that's 2 map slots instead of 1 |
| 18:24.26 | Bounty | can u put models/sounds into a mod? |
| 18:24.34 | JManV|Work | absolutely |
| 18:24.39 | JManV|Work | that's what i do now |
| 18:24.49 | Bounty | so technically |
| 18:24.54 | Bounty | i could have a 20mb map lol |
| 18:24.55 | JManV|Work | you can put everything but terrain in a mod |
| 18:24.59 | Bounty | if i used a mod |
| 18:25.04 | JManV|Work | if you want to use up 2 map slots, yes |
| 18:25.26 | Bounty | never used them before, i assume they are easy to do? |
| 18:25.29 | JManV|Work | it will also increase map download/load time, but not dramatically |
| 18:25.42 | JManV|Work | if you're starting with a mod in mind, yes |
| 18:25.55 | JManV|Work | if you start with a map and try to move everything to a mod later, not |
| 18:26.01 | Bounty | so i would have to create the mod first |
| 18:26.36 | JManV|Work | yeah, you can create the mod, import stuff, then create the map and inherit the mod |
| 18:26.54 | Bounty | sounds easy enough |
| 18:27.00 | Bounty | open the editor, import the models and sounds |
| 18:27.03 | Bounty | save as a mod |
| 18:27.06 | Bounty | import to map? |
| 18:27.21 | JManV|Work | create new mod |
| 18:27.29 | JManV|Work | its one of the options when you hit new |
| 18:27.36 | Bounty | ok |
| 18:27.37 | Bounty | good stuff |
| 18:27.45 | Bounty | that makes me happy :) |
| 18:27.52 | Bounty | i was worried i wouldnt be able to get many characters in |
| 18:27.55 | JManV|Work | then when you create the map, you add the mod as a dependancies |
| 18:28.01 | Bounty | now i can know right off the bat how many characters ill have |
| 18:28.44 | Bounty | itll only be 2 players but im thinking i should add support for a king of the hill thing |
| 18:28.50 | Bounty | winners stays etc |
| 18:28.55 | JManV|Work | you can use the same mod for a different map later, too |
| 18:29.07 | JManV|Work | which is $ |
| 18:29.09 | Bounty | yummy :) |
| 18:30.07 | Bounty | lol i think picking all the models then going through all the animations, renaming the animations and then checking the model to make sure its right will take days on its own >< |
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| 18:36.13 | JManV|Work | heh. days |
| 18:36.43 | JManV|Work | my map could still take months :P |
| 18:36.45 | Bounty | prolly not days, but u know lol |
| 18:36.57 | Bounty | well ur doing a full fledged game |
| 18:37.11 | Bounty | fighting games are easier, i dont need to build a campaign |
| 18:37.12 | JManV|Work | yeah |
| 18:37.17 | JManV|Work | didn't mean to originally :P |
| 18:37.31 | Bounty | wasnt it a proof of concept at first? lol |
| 18:37.33 | JManV|Work | it just kind of ... evolved ... ito what it is |
| 18:37.39 | JManV|Work | yeah |
| 18:37.47 | JManV|Work | originally it was real time, too :P |
| 18:37.54 | Bounty | Well, thats how the good maps come to be imo |
| 18:37.58 | Bounty | If they make it |
| 18:38.27 | Bounty | If you can look at a proof of concept and see something in it, its meant to be =P |
| 18:41.11 | JManV|Work | i also never planned for WASD movement, originally |
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| 18:42.20 | Bounty | How is your WASD system? |
| 18:42.23 | Bounty | delay wise |
| 18:42.31 | TheAlmaity | And im back |
| 18:42.43 | JManV|Work | its really good |
| 18:42.46 | TheAlmaity | Llo bounty |
| 18:42.46 | Bounty | If you need a WASD system u can use my new one |
| 18:42.53 | JManV|Work | i had some problems originally, but i've resolved them |
| 18:43.02 | Bounty | What method did u use? |
| 18:43.12 | JManV|Work | i have a while loop |
| 18:43.17 | JManV|Work | but mine actually ends |
| 18:43.21 | Bounty | lol |
| 18:43.26 | JManV|Work | but i also only have 4-directional movement currently |
| 18:43.32 | Bounty | booleans? |
| 18:43.36 | JManV|Work | no |
| 18:43.39 | JManV|Work | single direction |
| 18:43.51 | Bounty | yeah but like what detects the key presss in the loop |
| 18:44.02 | JManV|Work | so, 1=up, 2=down, 3=left, 4=right, for example |
| 18:44.11 | Bounty | oh, u use integers? |
| 18:44.21 | JManV|Work | 1 interger, yes |
| 18:44.25 | JManV|Work | but its imperfect |
| 18:44.34 | Bounty | use arrayed booleans |
| 18:44.43 | Bounty | 8 way =P |
| 18:44.59 | JManV|Work | if you press down, then press left, you move down and then left, even if down is still being held... which is expected |
| 18:45.11 | JManV|Work | but if you release left, you stop, even though you're still holding down |
| 18:45.21 | JManV|Work | i'm probably just gonna switch to 8-directional |
| 18:45.32 | Bounty | well like i said, u can use mine |
| 18:45.38 | Bounty | works very good on bnet |
| 18:45.39 | JManV|Work | because otherwise there's an awful lot of if/thens which would be required |
| 18:45.42 | Bounty | on par with Jades |
| 18:45.48 | JManV|Work | was gonna use jades |
| 18:46.04 | Bounty | the funny thing is JMan |
| 18:46.04 | JManV|Work | but WASD is very low priority |
| 18:46.09 | Bounty | u would only need 1 if then per direction |
| 18:46.15 | Bounty | which isnt to many |
| 18:46.27 | JManV|Work | what if they press right and left? |
| 18:46.36 | JManV|Work | booleans cancel that out |
| 18:46.40 | JManV|Work | single variables dont |
| 18:46.44 | Bounty | the order u have it in determines that |
| 18:46.52 | Bounty | at the top u have the combos |
| 18:46.54 | Bounty | like W + A |
| 18:46.56 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.02 | Bounty | skip all actions |
| 18:47.08 | JManV|Work | at any matter, i'm trying to work towards a new demo, and the demo doesn't require any changes to the WASD |
| 18:47.26 | JManV|Work | so changes to WASD will have to fall after that |
| 18:47.30 | Bounty | ah |
| 18:49.58 | JManV|Work | i'm nearly finished with the starting intro |
| 18:50.09 | JManV|Work | then i want to set up the handing out of starting pokemon |
| 18:50.18 | JManV|Work | then i think it will be demo-worthy |
| 18:54.31 | TheAlmaity | How many pokemon you have for now? |
| 18:55.06 | JManV|Work | ~20? some of them more concrete than others |
| 18:55.23 | TheAlmaity | kewl. You got evolutions yet? |
| 18:55.28 | JManV|Work | some |
| 18:56.24 | JManV|Work | shawn had some pretty good suggestions on page 2 of my thread. i'll probably use a lot of them |
| 18:56.31 | JManV|Work | there are some other good ones there as well |
| 18:56.47 | JManV|Work | someone else came up with a pokedex graphic, but you can barely read it |
| 18:56.54 | TheAlmaity | can you link me your thread again? |
| 18:57.04 | JManV|Work | i was thinking of setting up a web-pokedex to organize it all as I am working |
| 18:57.18 | JManV|Work | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/16942-pokemon-style-game-with-sc2-units-full-banking/ |
| 18:57.27 | TheAlmaity | thx |
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| 18:57.51 | JManV|Work | ppl started making suggestions at about post 35 |
| 18:59.29 | Shawn|Rawr | You like my suggestions?! |
| 18:59.33 | Shawn|Rawr | :P |
| 18:59.38 | JManV|Work | ofc |
| 18:59.44 | JManV|Work | you're my #1 fan! :P |
| 19:00.19 | Shawn|Rawr | Huh. I figured I had lost that spot by now.. YEAH!!!! |
| 19:00.53 | JManV|Work | not yet |
| 19:01.26 | TheAlmaity | dont worry shawn, im working on it |
| 19:01.40 | JManV|Work | you'll still be the original |
| 19:01.53 | TheAlmaity | im wokring on that as well |
| 19:01.57 | JManV|Work | heh |
| 19:04.11 | JManV|Work | i'm more than happy to have lots of fans :P |
| 19:04.29 | JManV|Work | i think the upcoming demo will really kick it into high gear |
| 19:04.37 | JManV|Work | it's leaps and bounds beyond the last demo |
| 19:05.32 | Shawn|Rawr | I just think when you started working on it I was really in the mood to play it. I'll get back to that mood soon enough. |
| 19:06.30 | JManV|Work | yeah, it will be a while before it's playable |
| 19:06.40 | JManV|Work | i wish i could make it happen sooner |
| 19:06.50 | JManV|Work | but by the same token i don't want to rush it |
| 19:07.18 | Shawn|Rawr | It's fine. I just know how I work and I'll probably get all excited again and come up with some more good suggestions and stuff |
| 19:07.28 | Shawn|Rawr | But not atm |
| 19:07.34 | Shawn|Rawr | Too focused on other things |
| 19:07.39 | JManV|Work | oh, no worries |
| 19:08.49 | JManV|Work | i still have plenty of excitement about the project to keep it going for a long time |
| 19:09.24 | JManV|Work | i doubt it will take a year, but if it did, i still wouldn't give up |
| 19:09.47 | Shawn|Rawr | I wish I had that kind of dedication. I'm more like bounty |
| 19:09.49 | JManV|Work | thats the advantage of knowing sc2's gonna be around for a while |
| 19:09.52 | JManV|Work | :P |
| 19:10.09 | JManV|Work | well, i've already ditched like 3-4 maps i was seriously working on |
| 19:10.11 | Bounty | Hay! |
| 19:10.13 | Bounty | I just released a map |
| 19:10.14 | Bounty | lolol |
| 19:10.16 | JManV|Work | but this one is different |
| 19:10.18 | Bounty | =P |
| 19:10.30 | Bounty | Only took me about 6-7 maps to finally finish one... |
| 19:10.53 | Shawn|Rawr | Fine. I'm worse than bounty (who is already bad) |
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| 19:11.44 | Shawn|Rawr | It won't get any easier though if I move |
| 19:12.05 | Shawn|Rawr | afaik, they don't have internet where I would be going |
| 19:12.10 | Bounty | >< |
| 19:12.13 | Shawn|Rawr | plus I would have to use my super shitty computer |
| 19:12.42 | Bounty | I wish i had a shitty computer when mapping |
| 19:12.49 | Bounty | Bc i always make games that nobody can fucking run |
| 19:13.06 | Shawn|Rawr | I think though that if I format it, and ONLY have sc2 on the computer, then I will spend less time screwing around and more time mapping |
| 19:13.14 | Shawn|Rawr | Plus it will force me to focus on one proect |
| 19:14.26 | JManV|Work | a setting doesn't change who you are :P |
| 19:14.44 | JManV|Work | if you lose focus quickly, you still will no matter what |
| 19:14.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Ya, but having a lot less time on my hands can change my priorities quickly |
| 19:15.00 | Shawn|Rawr | So it will help |
| 19:15.24 | JManV|Work | i had an old job i didn't like and i often found excuses to do something else |
| 19:15.43 | JManV|Work | and i blamed watching TV or whatever for distracting me |
| 19:15.55 | JManV|Work | but really if it hadn't been TV, it would have been something else |
| 19:16.11 | JManV|Work | not saying you hate mapping |
| 19:16.19 | JManV|Work | just saying if it's not one thing it's another |
| 19:16.33 | Shawn|Rawr | It's not like that at all. I just have way too much time on my hands so that I spend so much time on something that i get bored of it |
| 19:16.57 | Shawn|Rawr | It would be different if I was forced to take breaks in between sessions |
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| 19:19.01 | JManV|Work | i c |
| 19:19.06 | JManV|Work | sup skiz? |
| 19:20.18 | Shawn|Rawr | Any idea why my ability refuses to show its cost? |
| 19:22.40 | JManV|Work | no specifically |
| 19:22.47 | JManV|Work | *not |
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| 19:24.40 | Shawn|Rawr | Might have found it. |
| 19:24.49 | Shawn|Rawr | But it's being retarded so who knows |
| 19:28.48 | A1win | ugh... ugly copypasta code for the shop inventory |
| 19:29.03 | JManV|Work | alright, i'm leaving work now |
| 19:29.11 | JManV|Work | gotta go to that stupid concert |
| 19:29.16 | Shawn|Rawr | Have a fun drive home superstar |
| 19:29.25 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 19:29.36 | JManV|Work | l8trz all |
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| 19:51.17 | Shawn|Rawr | Is anyone here? |
| 19:51.20 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 19:51.26 | TheAlmaity | no |
| 19:51.32 | JManV | ugh |
| 19:51.34 | Shawn|Rawr | Cool. |
| 19:51.35 | TheAlmaity | just you and your consciousness (i.e. me) |
| 19:51.36 | JManV | i'm not. |
| 19:52.03 | Shawn|Rawr | You live really close to work? |
| 19:52.11 | JManV | yeah. by design. |
| 19:52.17 | TheAlmaity | Your consciousness tells you to donate money to it's paypal account. |
| 19:52.28 | Shawn|Rawr | What money? |
| 19:52.32 | Shawn|Rawr | I have no money |
| 19:52.37 | TheAlmaity | Then go get some. |
| 19:52.40 | Shawn|Rawr | I have to move to georgia just to get a job |
| 19:52.45 | Shawn|Rawr | It's stupid |
| 19:52.54 | TheAlmaity | yea, that is kinda stupid. |
| 19:55.26 | Shawn|Rawr | I need someone that doesn't mind desert strike maps. Preferably a few people. Need to test if all my mechanics are working before the balancing begins. |
| 19:55.34 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 19:55.43 | Shawn|Rawr | I love that >.> thing too uch |
| 19:55.46 | Shawn|Rawr | much* |
| 19:55.54 | JManV | wtf is that anyways? |
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| 19:56.08 | Shawn|Rawr | Never played? |
| 19:56.18 | JManV | played? |
| 19:56.24 | JManV | apparently not |
| 19:56.28 | Bibendus | lol |
| 19:56.29 | Shawn|Rawr | Oh haha.. you meant the >.> thing |
| 19:56.31 | Bibendus | thats quite hilarius |
| 19:56.41 | TheAlmaity | lol |
| 19:56.42 | JManV | yeah |
| 19:56.42 | Bibendus | i can't use chrome to edit my video on youtube |
| 19:56.50 | Bibendus | but with firefox it works |
| 19:57.16 | JManV | youtube's telling you to get a real browser? :P |
| 19:57.21 | Shawn|Rawr | It's like squinting i guess.. and i imagine I'm also going "ya......" |
| 19:57.45 | Shawn|Rawr | or sometimes it means wtf are you talking about |
| 19:57.50 | Shawn|Rawr | or "you are so stupid" |
| 19:57.52 | JManV | oh |
| 19:57.57 | Bibendus | lol |
| 19:58.05 | Bibendus | i have a real browser |
| 19:58.07 | Bibendus | btw |
| 19:58.13 | Bibendus | youtube is owned by google so |
| 19:58.14 | Bibendus | its stupid |
| 19:58.15 | JManV | \m/ well this means rock hands :P |
| 19:58.15 | Bibendus | xD |
| 19:58.20 | Shawn|Rawr | I know |
| 19:58.22 | Bibendus | i tought to get a faster vid download |
| 19:58.36 | Shawn|Rawr | vOv is shrugging |
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| 19:58.42 | Motive | ;D |
| 19:58.45 | Shawn|Rawr | MOTIVE |
| 19:58.47 | Shawn|Rawr | OMG |
| 19:58.49 | Motive | SHAWN |
| 19:58.50 | Motive | rawr |
| 19:58.52 | Shawn|Rawr | YOU WERE IN THE NEWS |
| 19:58.56 | Motive | psh |
| 19:58.57 | Shawn|Rawr | YOU'RE FAMOUS |
| 19:59.00 | Motive | I was in the news before |
| 19:59.04 | Motive | during beta/release |
| 19:59.05 | Motive | lol |
| 19:59.09 | Motive | and for libactionbar iirc |
| 19:59.28 | JManV | you haven't been news'd before shawn? |
| 19:59.34 | A1win | I'm tempted to switch my inventory dialog variables into an array of 2 indexes so I can use one for the cargo inventory and one for the shop :P |
| 19:59.34 | TheAlmaity | i was in the news for a shoutcast. lol |
| 19:59.39 | Motive | Galaxy stack space wasn't really even my discovery. |
| 19:59.39 | Shawn|Rawr | Not by myself |
| 19:59.42 | Motive | I only made a pretty library |
| 19:59.43 | Shawn|Rawr | But i have been |
| 19:59.45 | Bibendus | a1win |
| 19:59.46 | Bibendus | i did it |
| 19:59.46 | Motive | that was jademus' discovery really |
| 19:59.46 | Motive | :P |
| 19:59.54 | TheAlmaity | also, dunno whether the first Voidcraft vid was newsed, but i was there as well |
| 19:59.55 | Bibendus | btw |
| 19:59.59 | JManV | you are worse than bounty, then :P |
| 20:00.00 | Bibendus | didnt they add in the last patch |
| 20:00.04 | Bibendus | a dialog group? |
| 20:00.08 | Motive | So I have a question |
| 20:00.09 | Bibendus | or something like that |
| 20:00.11 | JManV | he's been news'd like 20 times :P |
| 20:00.15 | Motive | why the fuck hadn't I played MW2 until last night? |
| 20:00.15 | A1win | Bibendus, panels? |
| 20:00.18 | Motive | I bought it on steam and I was like |
| 20:00.23 | Motive | holy shit this is a really good FPS |
| 20:00.33 | JManV | MW2 is awesome |
| 20:00.42 | Motive | programming work of art, imo |
| 20:00.58 | JManV | controls were a touchy iffy, but great game |
| 20:01.02 | Motive | Yeah |
| 20:01.10 | JManV | also, the music is phenomenal |
| 20:01.15 | Motive | Fighting my way through Virginia was... oh my God amazing |
| 20:01.17 | Motive | Washington, too |
| 20:01.21 | Motive | They built that shit so accurately |
| 20:01.28 | JManV | the original game, you could play the disc in a CD player to hear just the music |
| 20:01.38 | Tobin- | No dedicated + a couple of bs class setups were the only downfall of mw2 imo. |
| 20:01.49 | A1win | JManV, that's how it was in WC2 too |
| 20:02.05 | Motive | there's nothing like fighting your way through D.C. and Virginia when you've been there a week before |
| 20:02.06 | Motive | Lol |
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| 20:02.11 | Motive | I love that mission so much |
| 20:02.13 | Motive | I may do it more |
| 20:02.37 | Shawn|Rawr | I'd do it with you |
| 20:02.43 | Motive | also liked how the military was so accurately portrayed |
| 20:02.53 | Motive | used real lingo like meeting up at Whiskey Hotel instead of White House |
| 20:02.56 | Motive | danger close, etc. |
| 20:03.03 | Motive | Immersion was great |
| 20:03.07 | Motive | Story not so much, but wow still |
| 20:03.16 | Bounty | How many fighters do u guys think is good for a 2 player fighting map? |
| 20:03.21 | Motive | 2? |
| 20:03.22 | Motive | Lol |
| 20:03.23 | Shawn|Rawr | 6] |
| 20:03.31 | Bounty | yeah 6 sounds good |
| 20:03.51 | JManV | heh almaity |
| 20:03.57 | Bounty | itll be teh first map that actually LOOKS like your hitting someone lol |
| 20:03.57 | JManV | like the legendaries |
| 20:04.03 | TheAlmaity | :) |
| 20:04.08 | Bounty | <3 WoW model animations |
| 20:04.09 | Bounty | so many |
| 20:04.10 | TheAlmaity | Couldn't think of more atm |
| 20:04.12 | Bounty | can do anything |
| 20:04.17 | JManV | there are actually 4 marauder models tho, i want to exploit that via evolutions |
| 20:04.31 | TheAlmaity | then make Steve a merc marine |
| 20:04.39 | Shawn|Rawr | Swann, kill team, merc, marauder? |
| 20:04.41 | JManV | marauder, kill team, merc rauder, swann |
| 20:04.47 | Shawn|Rawr | Ha! |
| 20:04.50 | TheAlmaity | actually, models should be civilian > Marine > Merc Marine |
| 20:04.56 | TheAlmaity | for Jeff, Steve and Bob |
| 20:05.01 | JManV | except civilian is the little boy :P |
| 20:05.18 | A1win | prisoner! |
| 20:05.21 | JManV | the heroes are civis |
| 20:05.26 | JManV | prisoner heh |
| 20:05.43 | Bounty | lol @ the latest post on my maps thread |
| 20:05.46 | TheAlmaity | its supposed to be one of those pokemon you just use to fill up the sixth slot until you get proper stuff (Like... Uh... Rattata? Been a while since i played >.>) |
| 20:05.48 | Bounty | "Nice job man. Is Iconic Bosses out yet?" |
| 20:05.52 | Bounty | =P |
| 20:05.56 | Shawn|Rawr | Hhahah |
| 20:06.02 | JManV | i'll totally use the bruteon |
| 20:06.15 | JManV | fighting ground, totally |
| 20:06.29 | TheAlmaity | =D |
| 20:06.42 | TheAlmaity | should be some sort of final evolution |
| 20:06.49 | Shawn|Rawr | Hmm.. lurklett? (lurker diglett)? |
| 20:06.50 | JManV | perhaps |
| 20:06.54 | TheAlmaity | Equivalent of Aggron or what he was called... |
| 20:06.58 | JManV | zealot = zealmonlee |
| 20:07.03 | TheAlmaity | lol |
| 20:07.04 | JManV | fighting type :P |
| 20:07.08 | Tobin- | haha |
| 20:07.11 | TheAlmaity | Btw, you got 3 zealot models |
| 20:07.16 | TheAlmaity | prisoner, normal and dark |
| 20:07.17 | JManV | exactly :P |
| 20:07.28 | JManV | ooo... dark fighting type :P |
| 20:07.33 | TheAlmaity | =D |
| 20:07.49 | TheAlmaity | I like dark ones. When i played the TCG ages ago i had a dark deck, lol |
| 20:08.11 | JManV | thinking of having several evolve during day/night seperate evos |
| 20:08.57 | JManV | have to have at least 1, but there's so many dark protoss... |
| 20:09.04 | TheAlmaity | lol |
| 20:09.18 | JManV | i mean - dark probichu |
| 20:09.26 | TheAlmaity | btw, gonna make something like evee? |
| 20:09.32 | TheAlmaity | or however it was spelled |
| 20:09.46 | JManV | most likely |
| 20:09.50 | JManV | something in that vein |
| 20:10.16 | Shawn|Rawr | Hmm.. can you turn a missile into a unit? |
| 20:10.18 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 20:10.25 | JManV | missiles are units |
| 20:10.41 | Shawn|Rawr | Good. Then look at the SS_SwarmGuardianMissile model |
| 20:11.10 | Shawn|Rawr | thats some kind of bug creature, i'm sure |
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| 20:11.20 | Bounty | Did i tell u what happend to me after playing my map last night Shawn? |
| 20:11.21 | CryptRat | I have a question. |
| 20:11.24 | Bounty | I think its dangerous lol |
| 20:11.41 | Shawn|Rawr | Someone came up to you and knew who you were? |
| 20:11.47 | Bounty | Soon as i went to stand up i felt so fucking dizzy and had a fucked up depth perception |
| 20:11.55 | Bounty | i think its bc of my map |
| 20:11.56 | Bounty | lolol |
| 20:12.09 | Bounty | bc of the camera |
| 20:12.09 | Shawn|Rawr | Hmm hahaha |
| 20:12.14 | TheAlmaity | llo cryptrat, shoot |
| 20:12.17 | CryptRat | Why would my map file that is 52kb, be uploading about ten times that? |
| 20:12.18 | Shawn|Rawr | "Map banned due to health risks" |
| 20:12.21 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 20:12.22 | Bounty | LOL |
| 20:12.24 | Bounty | dude i was thinking that |
| 20:12.45 | TheAlmaity | Hmmm... No idea crypt :/ u sure its that little? |
| 20:12.52 | JManV | shawn: that's it's "stand" animation |
| 20:12.52 | Bounty | i may be wrong but ive never felt like that before |
| 20:12.53 | TheAlmaity | seems ridiculously small for a map |
| 20:12.58 | CryptRat | I've only been working on it for a week. :p |
| 20:12.58 | JManV | but that is cool looking |
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| 20:13.12 | CryptRat | And there's almost no triggers and it's 72x72 |
| 20:13.29 | JManV | it even has a death animation. it's super cool |
| 20:13.48 | TheAlmaity | No idea :/ Check your overview manager, it shows filesizes of different parts |
| 20:13.51 | Shawn|Rawr | I immediately thought of you when i saw it |
| 20:13.53 | JademusSreg | Bounty, I didn't know you could play SC2 on a 3DS. |
| 20:13.56 | JademusSreg | Baduntss |
| 20:13.57 | JManV | oh hell yeah |
| 20:14.02 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:14.06 | JManV | SS_SwarmGuardian is just super awesome |
| 20:14.21 | CryptRat | Well I mean, do map files get 'unfurled' when you send them to blizzard, making them bigger? |
| 20:14.24 | JManV | i don't remember that in the campaign |
| 20:14.31 | montagg | JManV: Does it look good or are all the settings turned down? |
| 20:14.51 | JManV | does what? |
| 20:15.05 | Shawn|Rawr | Jman, never played lost viking? |
| 20:15.12 | JManV | nope |
| 20:15.17 | JManV | i prolly should huh? |
| 20:15.20 | montagg | JManV: SC2 on 3DS. |
| 20:15.23 | Shawn|Rawr | For sure |
| 20:15.32 | JManV | i have all the campaign achievements besides those 3 |
| 20:15.41 | Shawn|Rawr | Those are hard to get |
| 20:15.49 | JManV | but i'd have to play another campaign to get there again |
| 20:15.57 | JManV | and i already beat it like 3 times |
| 20:16.03 | Shawn|Rawr | just til you get to the hyperion |
| 20:16.11 | JManV | i know |
| 20:16.28 | JManV | but if there's cool models i could use, i should do it anyways |
| 20:16.38 | JademusSreg | Hilarious. |
| 20:16.39 | JManV | that's half the reason i went for all the campaign achievements |
| 20:16.54 | JManV | the other half being because i'm an achievement whore |
| 20:16.54 | Bounty | My son is leet as fuck, all he says is "woot" |
| 20:17.14 | Bounty | Just thought i would share that |
| 20:17.24 | Bounty | You're welcome |
| 20:17.29 | JManV | does he raise the roof when he's doing it? |
| 20:17.39 | JManV | cuz the roof needs to be raised |
| 20:17.42 | Bounty | sometimes, but he cant really control his arms |
| 20:17.51 | Bounty | =P |
| 20:17.57 | Bounty | so its just dumb luck |
| 20:17.58 | JManV | well, then you have plenty of time to teach him :P |
| 20:18.31 | JManV | dude. that model is so becoming a pokemon |
| 20:18.33 | Bounty | Its funny whenever he has one of those body movement flipouts... his fingers spread like hes about to climb a wall |
| 20:18.38 | JManV | i may just call it "Guardian" |
| 20:18.53 | JManV | no reason they all need to be renamed |
| 20:18.59 | montagg | I need a big favor from someone with Fraps and a pretty powerful box. I'm applying to a game company, and I want to record a cinematic I built in SC2, but my machine's not powerful enough to get a good recording. |
| 20:19.06 | TheAlmaity | can you screenie the model? Dont have the editor open atm and it would take forever. i wanna see it... Or is it the guardian model i suggested? |
| 20:19.29 | montagg | I'd really appreciate the help if you could spare a few minutes to record the map for me. I want to give them the best quality I can. |
| 20:19.43 | TheAlmaity | srry, ive got a wooden comp montagg |
| 20:19.47 | TheAlmaity | cant help |
| 20:19.54 | montagg | Damnit! So do I. ;) |
| 20:20.02 | JManV | i'd be happy to, but not now |
| 20:20.51 | montagg | JManV: Anytime today would be fine, if possible. I'd like to get the application submitted by the end of the day. |
| 20:20.57 | JManV | http://i56.tinypic.com/4j2b5z.png |
| 20:21.07 | JManV | today is out, sorry |
| 20:21.15 | JManV | i'm leaving in like 5 minutes |
| 20:21.18 | JManV | for the rest of the night |
| 20:22.02 | JManV | and just cuz i love it so much: http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=315lab4&s=7 :P |
| 20:22.22 | JManV | oops. oh well. |
| 20:22.26 | TheAlmaity | yea, thats the model i suggested :p |
| 20:22.34 | JManV | yeah |
| 20:22.40 | montagg | No problem. Worst case, I can probably get a friend on the east coast to give me a hand. |
| 20:22.40 | JManV | i went looking |
| 20:22.51 | montagg | JManV: Awesome model. Where did it come from? |
| 20:22.58 | JManV | that's the guardian |
| 20:23.03 | TheAlmaity | campaign mod |
| 20:23.03 | JademusSreg | I've got fraps and a fairly powerful machine. |
| 20:23.05 | JManV | i guess its in the lost viking |
| 20:23.26 | JManV | anyways, yes, that's totally gonna be a legendary pokemon |
| 20:23.32 | TheAlmaity | =D |
| 20:23.37 | JademusSreg | 1/4 the cost of my machine went to the GPU. |
| 20:23.41 | JManV | and i'm not at all opposed to just calling it "Guardian" |
| 20:23.59 | JManV | seems like a good name imo |
| 20:24.02 | TheAlmaity | Maybe make mohandar legendary lightning, and have lighting effects attached to him (archon beam attached to mutliple points) |
| 20:24.18 | JademusSreg | Call him Arihman |
| 20:24.18 | montagg | JademusSreg: Nice. Do you think you could run Fraps with reflections on, high textures, and still get about 25-30 fps? |
| 20:24.30 | Shawn|Rawr | Hehe.. ahriman |
| 20:24.55 | JManV | anyways, i gotta peace out |
| 20:24.58 | JManV | l8trz |
| 20:25.11 | JademusSreg | I run on ultra at a great framerate, so yeah, I probably could. |
| 20:25.15 | Shawn|Rawr | I think jade could run it on ultra |
| 20:25.57 | Shawn|Rawr | aww |
| 20:26.07 | Shawn|Rawr | ROAR |
| 20:27.39 | JademusSreg | I'm gonna check if I need to update flash, then I'll be available. |
| 20:28.18 | Shawn|Rawr | Some just posted in the forums "Barackling: First black baneling that comes forward and promises change to the zerg." |
| 20:28.27 | TheAlmaity | lol |
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| 20:32.24 | Shawn|Rawr | almaity knows what thread that is |
| 20:34.44 | TheAlmaity | zerg evolution thingy, right? |
| 20:35.20 | Shawn|Rawr | ya |
| 20:35.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Damn.. he left |
| 20:35.57 | Shawn|Rawr | Hahha, i was about to say something to jman |
| 20:36.33 | TheAlmaity | lol |
| 20:41.54 | Shawn|Rawr | TheAlmaity: If I explain a situation real quick, can i get an opinion? |
| 20:43.32 | JademusSreg | My opinions can time travel!Can theAlamaity say the same? YES. He can. Because he has a mouth full of opinions and can say anything he wants. Because this is a free country, we live in The Internet, goddamnit. Wait. |
| 20:43.37 | JademusSreg | What were we talking about? |
| 20:45.35 | Shawn|Rawr | Just the georgia thing again haha |
| 20:45.47 | Shawn|Rawr | I still feel weird about it |
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| 20:51.48 | MrOp | hi |
| 20:52.03 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 20:52.15 | MrOp | :) |
| 20:58.11 | montagg | Hi. |
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| 20:58.25 | JademusSreg | Hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 21:01.16 | Bounty | I'm callin it now, if i actually finish this map it WILL be #1 |
| 21:01.17 | Bounty | =P |
| 21:01.35 | montagg | We'll make sure it is. |
| 21:02.07 | Bounty | I think Smashcraft is great n all but it doesnt control like a fighting game |
| 21:02.08 | Bounty | this will =P |
| 21:02.29 | montagg | Bounty: Are the controls pretty low latency? |
| 21:02.36 | Bounty | very low latency |
| 21:02.41 | Bounty | 99% lagless |
| 21:02.46 | Bounty | and the way the camera is |
| 21:02.51 | montagg | Sweet! I'd love to check that out. |
| 21:02.55 | Bounty | keeping a 60+ framerate will be easy |
| 21:02.59 | Bounty | im JUST starting it |
| 21:03.02 | Bounty | doing the models/animations |
| 21:03.18 | Bounty | =P |
| 21:03.41 | Bounty | This is what it will be like though http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkUFQ6HZYJk |
| 21:04.38 | A1win | that took a while but now the inventory variables are stored into arrays of 2 and all the functions that can be made using loops are done so :O |
| 21:05.29 | montagg | Bounty: have you implemented jumping, too? |
| 21:05.38 | Bounty | like i said im JUST starting the map |
| 21:05.41 | Bounty | but it will have jumping |
| 21:05.42 | Shawn|Rawr | Ya. I wanna see you pull off that one |
| 21:06.00 | Bounty | watch Shawn :) |
| 21:06.10 | montagg | Bounty: Very cool. Can't wait to see it. |
| 21:06.16 | Bounty | WoW models have so many animations including impact animations for when u get hit |
| 21:06.21 | Bounty | so itll look right when u get hit |
| 21:06.23 | Shawn|Rawr | I am. Believe that. We'll see if it's better than DarkRev's |
| 21:06.35 | Bounty | DarkRevs what? |
| 21:06.40 | Bounty | Battlemages? |
| 21:06.41 | Shawn|Rawr | Jumping system |
| 21:06.44 | Bounty | oh |
| 21:06.50 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:07.26 | Bounty | it wont be as complex as his |
| 21:07.29 | Bounty | but it will work right |
| 21:07.47 | Shawn|Rawr | Jumping over doodads is half the fun though |
| 21:09.14 | Bounty | u think 6 chrs is enough? |
| 21:09.32 | Shawn|Rawr | How many did street fighter have? |
| 21:09.40 | Bounty | idk |
| 21:09.44 | Shawn|Rawr | I think 6 or 8 |
| 21:10.02 | Shawn|Rawr | 6 is good though to get a good start |
| 21:10.03 | Bounty | well |
| 21:10.06 | Bounty | model wise it will be |
| 21:10.38 | Bounty | Arthas (Human Arthas), Anduin, Headlesshorseman, Iron Dwarf, King Ymiron and Jaina Proudemoore |
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| 21:11.34 | Bounty | sound good? |
| 21:11.46 | Bibendus | nope |
| 21:12.07 | Shawn|Rawr | I dont know who half those people are, but sounds good |
| 21:12.11 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:12.33 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 21:15.13 | Shawn|Rawr | bibendus, when is rlease? |
| 21:15.25 | Bibendus | need resource gahering |
| 21:15.28 | Bibendus | and combat |
| 21:15.38 | Bibendus | and i can release a closed alpha version |
| 21:15.38 | Shawn|Rawr | You're a combat |
| 21:15.46 | Bibendus | :O |
| 21:15.51 | Bibendus | wut? |
| 21:15.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Sweet. Thanks |
| 21:16.03 | Bibendus | btw |
| 21:16.06 | Bibendus | i added dev notes |
| 21:16.08 | Bibendus | to the video |
| 21:16.08 | Bibendus | right now |
| 21:16.13 | Shawn|Rawr | :) |
| 21:17.21 | Shawn|Rawr | I've never played dungeon keeper |
| 21:17.28 | Shawn|Rawr | but i'm excited foryour map |
| 21:17.56 | Bibendus | oh its bad! |
| 21:18.01 | Bibendus | u should try it :P |
| 21:18.03 | Bounty | Funny thing is |
| 21:18.03 | Bibendus | the best game ever |
| 21:18.18 | Bounty | There was a game released recently that was supposed to pretty much Dungeon Keeper |
| 21:18.20 | Bounty | called Dungeons |
| 21:18.22 | Bounty | and it bombed |
| 21:18.29 | Bounty | so your map has to be atleast better then that game |
| 21:18.33 | Bounty | =P |
| 21:19.51 | Bibendus | and it suckz |
| 21:19.52 | Bibendus | :( |
| 21:20.11 | Bibendus | or at least it's a disappointment for DK fans |
| 21:20.29 | Bounty | i hope thats not true lol |
| 21:20.41 | Bounty | bc that will be about 80% of ur player base :) DK fans |
| 21:21.04 | Bounty | oh btw Jade |
| 21:21.10 | Bibendus | rly |
| 21:21.12 | Bounty | apparently Speed-Craft isnt fast enough |
| 21:21.14 | Bibendus | dungeons was a disappointment |
| 21:21.19 | Bounty | bc thats all im hearing about it |
| 21:21.19 | Bounty | yeah |
| 21:21.26 | Bibendus | and btw |
| 21:21.27 | Bounty | it got horrid reviews |
| 21:21.29 | Bibendus | quite laggy |
| 21:21.39 | Bibendus | how can a game lag in single player |
| 21:21.40 | Bounty | thats what the draw distance settings r for :) |
| 21:21.41 | Bibendus | is a mistery |
| 21:21.45 | Bibendus | but it lags as a multiplayer game |
| 21:21.46 | Bibendus | rofl |
| 21:21.56 | Bounty | use the draw distance options |
| 21:22.05 | JademusSreg | I guess I'll make a racer at some point and see how that goes. =) |
| 21:22.31 | Bounty | and u have to get used to the steering Bib |
| 21:22.39 | Bounty | once u do u can go around the track without ever hitting a wall |
| 21:22.58 | Bounty | that doesnt count if someone knocks u into one though :) |
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| 21:24.23 | Bounty | So |
| 21:24.37 | Bounty | Hive Keeper or Speed-Craft got newsed today =P |
| 21:24.42 | Bounty | Neither* |
| 21:24.48 | Bounty | Niether* |
| 21:24.52 | Bounty | speaking of that word |
| 21:24.54 | Bounty | which is it |
| 21:24.59 | zeta3 | is there a tool to re scale terrain? |
| 21:25.00 | Bounty | I before E except after C |
| 21:25.04 | Bounty | but Niether doesnt look right |
| 21:26.53 | Bibendus | huh |
| 21:27.21 | Bibendus | bounty |
| 21:27.26 | Bibendus | do u know i was talking about dungeons |
| 21:27.28 | Bibendus | and not your map? |
| 21:27.30 | Bounty | yeah? |
| 21:27.32 | Bounty | no |
| 21:27.35 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:27.35 | Bounty | i did not know that |
| 21:27.48 | Bibendus | now u know that |
| 21:27.49 | Bibendus | xD |
| 21:27.50 | Bounty | YOU KNOW YOU WANNA PLAY IT |
| 21:27.54 | Bibendus | mmm no? |
| 21:27.59 | Bounty | 6 hours Played |
| 21:28.01 | Bounty | get on it |
| 21:28.02 | Bounty | =P |
| 21:28.04 | Bibendus | btw what were u saying about the draw distance? |
| 21:28.09 | Bounty | oh |
| 21:28.24 | Bounty | i have adjustable draw distance in my map |
| 21:28.31 | Bibendus | oh u mean |
| 21:28.33 | Bounty | to prevent delay |
| 21:28.34 | Bibendus | for distance |
| 21:28.37 | Bounty | bc its steered with the camera |
| 21:28.39 | Bibendus | for fps problems |
| 21:28.44 | Bounty | so if u have low fps, steering is a bitch |
| 21:28.47 | Bounty | mmhmm |
| 21:28.53 | Bounty | funny thing is |
| 21:28.57 | Bounty | High is 75 draw distance |
| 21:29.03 | Bounty | and almost nobody can get 60fps |
| 21:32.44 | Bounty | so how do mods work |
| 21:32.49 | Bounty | i put all my models and sound files into a mod |
| 21:32.54 | Bounty | set it as a dependancy |
| 21:32.56 | Bounty | n thats it? |
| 21:33.06 | Bounty | when ppl download the map they will DL the mod to? |
| 21:33.14 | Bounty | or do i have to publish the mod |
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| 21:37.22 | Motive | o_O |
| 21:37.26 | Motive | I get 70 fps on SC2 |
| 21:37.29 | Motive | on extreme/ultra |
| 21:38.10 | Bounty | try it on my map lol |
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| 21:38.17 | Motive | no time :( |
| 21:38.26 | Bounty | i didnt say right now =P |
| 21:38.30 | Bounty | just in general |
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| 21:42.11 | Bibendus | mm stupid connection |
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| 21:43.36 | Bibendus | lets take a shower |
| 21:43.43 | Bibendus | in the meanwhile who didnt watch the vid |
| 21:43.44 | Bibendus | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9n1vxkJfaiY |
| 21:43.47 | Bibendus | should do it |
| 21:43.47 | Bibendus | :D |
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| 21:50.57 | Shawn|Rawr | Bounty, all mods must be published to use them in a published map |
| 21:54.19 | Bounty | and it will download the mod if they download the map Shawn? |
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| 21:56.21 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes |
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| 21:56.27 | Shawn|Rawr | It jsut has to be published |
| 21:56.32 | Bounty | nice |
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| 22:07.25 | pirate_ | quiet |
| 22:07.40 | Shawn|Rawr | too quiet |
| 22:09.23 | JademusSreg | Dunuh |
| 22:09.27 | pirate_ | entertain me mappers! |
| 22:09.29 | JademusSreg | Dunuh |
| 22:09.52 | JademusSreg | Dunduhdunduhdunduhdunduhdunduh |
| 22:10.16 | pirate_ | bah |
| 22:10.27 | pirate_ | school so close to being done |
| 22:10.29 | Bounty | alright so |
| 22:10.32 | pirate_ | then ill have all of the time to work on Legend of Z |
| 22:10.33 | Bounty | if i understand this right |
| 22:10.40 | Bounty | by using mods, you could have a 100mb map |
| 22:10.58 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 22:11.08 | Bounty | and since its damn near impossible to get 10.5mb worth of terrain,doodads,data and triggers |
| 22:11.14 | Bounty | there is no REAL map limit? |
| 22:11.22 | Bounty | right? |
| 22:11.23 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:11.56 | JademusSreg | Oh there is. |
| 22:12.03 | JademusSreg | And it's easy to hit. |
| 22:12.13 | pirate_ | except you cant user other people's mods in your maps? |
| 22:12.22 | pirate_ | and are thus limited to 50mb worth of mods? |
| 22:12.22 | JademusSreg | Yes you can. |
| 22:12.32 | pirate_ | oh neat |
| 22:12.56 | Bounty | well that sucks |
| 22:13.05 | Bounty | u know how many map ideas i didnt go through with bc of map file size? lol |
| 22:13.11 | Bounty | granted i would have most likely never finished |
| 22:13.18 | Bounty | but i could have atleast had a cool video |
| 22:13.24 | Bounty | showing what will never be finished |
| 22:13.47 | Bibendus | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 22:14.09 | pirate_ | Bounty, does your racer game have some sort of shiny anti collision camera or is it just from the sharp turns? |
| 22:14.25 | Bounty | what do u mean |
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| 22:15.30 | pirate_ | theres a couple really sharp turns, and i would think the camera would go through the wall but it doesnt |
| 22:15.33 | pirate_ | maybe im crazy |
| 22:15.40 | Bounty | camera is tilted abit |
| 22:15.44 | pirate_ | i slept for 3 hours last night/technically this morning |
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| 22:16.24 | JademusSreg | I slept 5, awoke at 3 am. =D |
| 22:16.42 | pirate_ | i slept at 8, woke at 11 |
| 22:16.43 | Bounty | http://cutmp3.net/ best site EVER |
| 22:17.11 | JademusSreg | D= |
| 22:17.20 | JademusSreg | The name makes me think it is terrible. |
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| 22:23.26 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/mech/Screenshot2011-03-17%2000_21_21.jpg |
| 22:24.36 | pirate_ | wat |
| 22:24.39 | JademusSreg | Nice. |
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| 22:26.25 | A1win | (the item names are just placeholders) |
| 22:26.56 | A1win | mission icons as well |
| 22:28.33 | A1win | mmh I wonder how I should define stats for different items, like what group they belong to etc |
| 22:29.04 | A1win | maybe just some arbitrary value in the unit type's data =p |
| 22:30.03 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 22:30.56 | A1win | each item has a representation of itself as a unit so I could just use its data fields for storing info |
| 22:31.09 | A1win | instead of making a switch-case for everything |
| 22:31.21 | A1win | or any better ideas? |
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| 22:31.50 | Bounty | if i used a mod as a depedancy |
| 22:31.58 | Bounty | will any changes i make to that mod insta transfer to the map |
| 22:32.16 | JademusSreg | A1, use Attribute behaviors. |
| 22:32.24 | A1win | huh? |
| 22:32.46 | JademusSreg | Perfect for encoding arbitrary data to units. |
| 22:32.50 | A1win | but the item unit doesn't exist when it's in the inventory |
| 22:33.18 | A1win | I mean I need to know things like item sell price, item size, which category it belongs to (hull modules, shield modules, etc.) |
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| 22:33.24 | pirate_ | can triggers get attribute stacks yet? |
| 22:33.30 | Bounty | just finished my mod, 9.8 mbs lol |
| 22:33.45 | Bounty | 6 Models |
| 22:33.47 | Bounty | 5 MP3's |
| 22:34.00 | Bounty | 6 Mp3's actually nvm |
| 22:34.44 | JademusSreg | A1, associated arrays or data tables. |
| 22:35.04 | JademusSreg | But lookup for associated arrays by id would be O(n) |
| 22:35.19 | JademusSreg | Data table look up would be O(1). |
| 22:35.44 | A1win | mmf |
| 22:36.19 | A1win | can I create data tables in some other way than feeding it values one by one? |
| 22:37.24 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
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| 22:37.36 | JademusSreg | Just write a get and set function. |
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| 22:37.47 | JademusSreg | So you can streamline that shit. |
| 22:37.50 | A1win | mm... |
| 22:38.17 | JademusSreg | Am I misunderstanding? |
| 22:38.28 | A1win | don't think so |
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| 22:38.54 | A1win | unless you're coincidentally making sense |
| 22:39.06 | JademusSreg | That would be neat. |
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| 22:39.36 | JademusSreg | It's just that your responses are exceedingly ambiguous at times. |
| 22:39.42 | A1win | :P |
| 22:41.54 | JademusSreg | http://www.actionbutton.net/?p=817 =D |
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| 22:43.52 | montagg | Good quote: "Stuck somewhere between the glistening braininess of Star Trek, the dilapidated nobility of Star Wars, and the mechanical, near-future spacepunk of Aliens space marines, it loses all its cohesiveness and ends up feeling a lot like those terrible Star Wars prequels: talking heads yapping at each other about fucking space Congress in sterile, underwhelming boxrooms." |
| 22:44.03 | JademusSreg | =) |
| 22:44.30 | JademusSreg | ABDN is my favorite review site. |
| 22:44.43 | JademusSreg | Because the reviews are insightful and enjoyable. |
| 22:44.55 | JademusSreg | The read like someone who played the damn game. |
| 22:45.24 | A1win | eeh I just realized I haven't taken into account that I need to actually filter these lists... now they just spit out the inventory array as it is instead of a part of it |
| 22:45.55 | A1win | guess I just need another array for each inventory |
| 22:46.40 | A1win | except that then there won't be any association between their items |
| 22:47.09 | A1win | ...which is why I need an array of indexes |
| 22:48.05 | pirate_ | I used a messy form of inventory storage |
| 22:48.21 | pirate_ | array for strings, each string related to array of data values |
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| 23:06.29 | A1win | woot the category filtering works now |
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| 23:29.32 | Bounty | hey jade |
| 23:29.38 | Bounty | what was that script again? to play animations |
| 23:31.50 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 23:32.34 | Bounty | nvm |
| 23:36.54 | A1win | now the shop works o: |
| 23:40.42 | Bounty | wow um |
| 23:40.44 | Bounty | wtf |
| 23:41.03 | Bounty | my unit randomy vanishes whenever i collide with a rock |
| 23:41.35 | JademusSreg | It's hiding. |
| 23:41.46 | JademusSreg | Hoping you don't bash it against a rock again. |
| 23:44.11 | Bounty | Doesnt look like this whole jump thing was goign to be as easy as thought |
| 23:44.17 | Nash|327 | Why do you collide with rocks? |
| 23:44.22 | Bounty | Ignore Terrain Height doesnt ignore pathing =P |
| 23:44.31 | Nash|327 | Don't bring your laptop when you're hiking. |
| 23:44.40 | Nash|327 | :/ |
| 23:44.52 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 23:47.08 | A1win | so now I have a shop, basic structure for missions... all I'm missing is the upgrade system then, oh and trade between players |
| 23:47.22 | A1win | and then it's basically just adding more "content" |
| 23:47.33 | A1win | oh and the mission randomization and contacts system is still missing too |
| 23:47.49 | A1win | haha |
| 23:47.51 | Nash|327 | And then this, and then that, and then... |
| 23:47.58 | A1win | oh nvm |
| 23:48.20 | A1win | ;> |
| 23:48.40 | A1win | yea there will be lots of work to do even after those, but at least it will be "playable" |
| 23:50.14 | A1win | I like this meta-game idea a lot, that the base is a place where you can just stay idle for as long as you want, and then quickly hop on a mission when everyone's ready |
| 23:50.24 | A1win | or go solo or in smaller groups etc. |
| 23:51.09 | A1win | and you don't need to worry about moving your character or the camera while in the base |
| 23:51.24 | Nash|327 | When everyone's ready? |
| 23:51.37 | Nash|327 | So you spend half your time waiting for people? :/ |
| 23:51.57 | A1win | when everyone's done buying their stuff etc |
| 23:52.05 | A1win | you can start a mission and join it while it's already running too |
| 23:52.38 | Nash|327 | So you're making a typical "let's spend 30 minutes fucking about with inventory" RPG? |
| 23:53.12 | A1win | nah :P should be quick to do upgrading the mech |
| 23:53.28 | A1win | just choose an upgrade slot and item to put there and hit a button |
| 23:53.38 | Nash|327 | Assuming people are decisive and know what they hell they are choosing from. |
| 23:53.49 | A1win | also you can't do anything about your inventory during a mission other than drop stuff from there |
| 23:54.02 | A1win | there won't be too many choices in the beginning |
| 23:55.24 | Nash|327 | I think you underestimate people's ability to spend time choosing. |
| 23:55.37 | A1win | :P well that's their problem |
| 23:55.54 | A1win | it doesn't need to concern others |
| 23:56.01 | A1win | they can start a mission without the slackers |
| 23:56.06 | Nash|327 | I personally spend a lot of time on it when I don't know the choices too well, reading descriptions and trying to make some quick DPS calculatons etc. |
| 23:56.54 | A1win | and the good thing is that it doesn't do any harm to use time making the decisions |
| 23:57.32 | A1win | I'm not sure if I'll make new characters start from the base or on a mission yet though |
| 23:57.36 | Nash|327 | I just designed my RPG to skip all the time consuming waiting and such. |
| 23:58.12 | montagg | A1win: Best scenario would get the player into some kind of action within the first 30 seconds by either reducing the choices or divvying out choices slowly over the first few minutes of gameplay. |
| 23:58.12 | Nash|327 | Automatic level ups, no loot, no walking back after reviving, etc. |
| 23:58.27 | A1win | mmm |
| 23:58.37 | montagg | Nash|327: That's perfect. Gets to the heart of what the player wants. |
| 23:58.42 | Nash|327 | People want to kill stuff. |
| 23:59.19 | Nash|327 | But give them choices and they'll feel compelled to stand around trying to decide what to choose to help them kill stuff more efficiently. |
| 23:59.21 | A1win | getting into action is always 2 clicks away in the base |
| 23:59.27 | A1win | choose mission - launch/join mission |
