| 00:07.08 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I rewrote the core of my wasd system. |
| 00:07.25 | JademusSreg | Much more computationally efficient. |
| 00:07.35 | JademusSreg | Easier to read, too. |
| 00:07.39 | MrOp | say the 3x fast |
| 00:07.49 | MrOp | computationally efficient |
| 00:07.56 | JademusSreg | I did. |
| 00:08.01 | MrOp | lol |
| 00:09.19 | JademusSreg | I'm in the process of handling cameras. |
| 00:13.02 | MrOp | laters |
| 00:15.41 | DonKalypso | I'm still in the process of learning inventories and equipment pages. |
| 00:16.28 | DonKalypso | Heh |
| 00:16.37 | DonKalypso | Taruen Marines as the Knights in Chess |
| 00:16.39 | DonKalypso | lol |
| 00:16.45 | FockeWulf | oh sup jade |
| 00:16.49 | FockeWulf | did ya think it over? |
| 00:17.24 | JademusSreg | Do you have a map file or is it all conceptual? Any prototyped systems? |
| 00:20.12 | JademusSreg | I'm more interested in freelance work; I'm interested in taking specific requests. If that goes well, I think I'd make a stronger commitment. Think of it like a provisional arrangement, a test drive of sorts. Sound good? |
| 00:26.22 | FockeWulf | yes i have a map file |
| 00:26.32 | FockeWulf | with the system already implemented |
| 00:26.36 | FockeWulf | but as yet incomplete |
| 00:26.42 | FockeWulf | if you wanna get on NA i can show it to you |
| 00:26.50 | FockeWulf | and yes I've got a project right now if youw ant |
| 00:28.01 | FockeWulf | ive got that and the prototype map as well with fancier art to demo what sort of things can and will go into the game |
| 00:29.24 | JademusSreg | I'm busy at the moment. |
| 00:29.55 | JademusSreg | I'm limited to chatting and scripting currently. |
| 00:30.50 | FockeWulf | ok but ya ive got something you can script for me when your ready |
| 00:31.02 | JademusSreg | Cool. What do you need? |
| 00:31.29 | FockeWulf | 2 things and you can take your pick or do both |
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| 00:48.32 | Vexal | how do i make mana shield |
| 00:50.37 | Skizot_IWON | visible or no? |
| 00:50.47 | Vexal | i'll worry about that later |
| 00:50.52 | Vexal | focusing currently on the function |
| 00:51.26 | Skizot_IWON | in that case you must concentrate hard to collect your mana just under your skin, it is done with your skin has a light blue sheen to it. |
| 00:51.38 | Vexal | i already did that. |
| 00:52.06 | Vexal | i don't see how to make a mana shield without using an event "unit takes damage" |
| 01:05.47 | Vexal | what's a good graphic for an ice bolt spell? |
| 01:06.57 | JademusSreg | A model from a different game. =D |
| 01:07.08 | Skizot_IWON | ur mammy |
| 01:07.30 | Vexal | i tried those and they didn't look good. |
| 01:07.33 | JademusSreg | Use a WoW import. |
| 01:07.36 | Bounty | wow |
| 01:07.37 | Bounty | just wow |
| 01:07.46 | Vexal | bounty and jade both agree "WoW" |
| 01:08.01 | Bounty | how the hell does "Last Created Unit" return a totally diff unit i alrdy placed on the map |
| 01:08.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:08.10 | Bounty | gg once again blizz |
| 01:08.17 | Vexal | jade, i'd prefer not to import models. |
| 01:08.21 | Skizot_IWON | you can't DO LCU with a PLACED unit. |
| 01:08.26 | Vexal | it's cheating. |
| 01:08.34 | Bounty | NO SHIT! |
| 01:08.37 | Bounty | thats what i just said |
| 01:08.41 | Bounty | ITS DOING THAT |
| 01:08.42 | Vexal | maybe your last created unit is returning null |
| 01:08.45 | Bounty | and i dont want it to |
| 01:08.48 | Vexal | and whatever's in that memory location |
| 01:08.51 | Vexal | happens to be a placed unit |
| 01:08.55 | Bounty | i do it right after i create a unit though |
| 01:09.04 | Vexal | did you correctly create the unit |
| 01:09.05 | JademusSreg | If you have a wait, Bounty, between creating a unit and getting last created unit, then another thread may have created a unit. |
| 01:09.06 | Vexal | or incorrectly? |
| 01:09.10 | Bounty | it creates |
| 01:09.14 | Vexal | jade, that's not true |
| 01:09.15 | Bounty | there is no way |
| 01:09.16 | Vexal | i don't think |
| 01:09.18 | Bounty | no wait* |
| 01:09.20 | JademusSreg | Solution, save units to variables. |
| 01:09.23 | JademusSreg | Of course it's true. |
| 01:09.25 | JademusSreg | I said it. |
| 01:09.28 | Vexal | are you sure? |
| 01:09.31 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 01:09.34 | Vexal | i'm positive "triggering unit" and such works |
| 01:09.37 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.38 | Vexal | even with waits. |
| 01:09.43 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.45 | Bounty | see |
| 01:10.00 | JademusSreg | Last Created Unit != Triggering Unit |
| 01:10.04 | Vexal | jade, how come "triggering unit" works with waits, but "last created unit" doesn't? |
| 01:10.16 | Vexal | i thought they're all local variables. |
| 01:10.20 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 01:10.28 | Bounty | so how do i fix that |
| 01:10.32 | Bounty | bc it should work |
| 01:10.35 | Vexal | bounty |
| 01:10.37 | Bounty | there i no reason why it shouldnt lol |
| 01:10.39 | Vexal | are you sure it doesn't work |
| 01:10.40 | JademusSreg | Do this |
| 01:10.43 | Bounty | yeah |
| 01:10.51 | Bounty | everytime i use the Add Last Created Unit to projectiles |
| 01:10.55 | JademusSreg | local unit variable = Create the unity |
| 01:10.56 | Bounty | the Spectre acts like a projectile lol |
| 01:10.59 | Bounty | as if he was added |
| 01:11.14 | Vexal | did you try printing out the last created unit |
| 01:11.16 | Vexal | to make sure |
| 01:11.21 | Bounty | printing out? |
| 01:11.30 | Vexal | cout << lastcreatedunit |
| 01:11.34 | Bounty | what? |
| 01:11.36 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 01:11.39 | Vexal | system.out.println last created unit |
| 01:11.40 | Bounty | wtf r u saying |
| 01:11.41 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:11.41 | Vexal | take your pick. |
| 01:11.48 | Bounty | i have no idea what ur saying |
| 01:11.49 | Vexal | just do "text message - name of last created unit" |
| 01:12.04 | Bounty | WHAT!? |
| 01:12.05 | JademusSreg | Vexal is using expressions from a different language. |
| 01:12.06 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:12.08 | Bounty | yeah |
| 01:12.15 | Bounty | for the record Vexal |
| 01:12.18 | Vexal | there's a function called "text message" use it to print out the last created unit |
| 01:12.19 | Bounty | this is EXACTLY how all projectiles work |
| 01:12.22 | Vexal | but |
| 01:12.23 | Bounty | and ive never had this problem |
| 01:12.26 | Vexal | you might have an off by one error |
| 01:12.28 | Vexal | you seem like the type. |
| 01:12.38 | Bounty | i just showed u though |
| 01:12.44 | Vexal | but... remember.. all it takes is one! |
| 01:12.50 | Bounty | oo |
| 01:12.51 | Bounty | wait |
| 01:12.53 | Vexal | that one... it could be this one. |
| 01:12.53 | Bounty | i think i know |
| 01:12.54 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:12.57 | JademusSreg | Trigger unit is thread safe, last created unit is not. |
| 01:13.07 | Vexal | i did not know that. |
| 01:13.15 | Vexal | in wc3... nothing was thread safe. |
| 01:13.28 | Bounty | fixed it =P |
| 01:13.42 | JademusSreg | I cannot think of a good reason to ever use last created anything. |
| 01:13.57 | Vexal | well |
| 01:14.13 | JademusSreg | Commit it to a variable, save yourself a bunch of shitty slow function calls. |
| 01:14.19 | Vexal | can you use the return value of function calls directly as parameters |
| 01:14.26 | Vexal | i thought you can only do that in script |
| 01:14.28 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 01:14.38 | JademusSreg | You're already doing it in GUI. |
| 01:14.47 | Vexal | you are for some things |
| 01:14.51 | Bounty | all i know is thank god i fixed it |
| 01:14.53 | Bounty | btw Vex |
| 01:14.54 | Vexal | but can you set a variable to "create unit" |
| 01:14.55 | Bounty | next boss is |
| 01:14.57 | Bounty | Tosh |
| 01:15.03 | Bounty | obviously lol |
| 01:15.08 | Vexal | he's black. |
| 01:15.08 | Bounty | since im talking about spectres >< |
| 01:15.23 | JademusSreg | Vexal, you're right about that one, because that shit is hilarious. |
| 01:15.30 | Vexal | which one? |
| 01:15.50 | Bounty | im gonna make trigger AI for the spectres to |
| 01:15.52 | Bounty | on who they target |
| 01:15.57 | Bounty | like if someone is about to die |
| 01:16.00 | Bounty | they will target u lol |
| 01:16.04 | Bounty | snipe yo ass =P |
| 01:16.04 | JademusSreg | The function UnitCreate returns a unit group. |
| 01:16.09 | JademusSreg | Which is sooo funny. |
| 01:16.58 | JademusSreg | UnitGroupUnit(unit group,0) has to be used on a unit group to get a unit. |
| 01:17.34 | JademusSreg | In galaxy, it looks like unit u = UnitGroupUnit(UnitCreate(bluh bluh args), 1); |
| 01:17.54 | JademusSreg | And you're not allowed to do that in GUI without a custom scruipt line! =D |
| 01:17.57 | JademusSreg | Hahah |
| 01:18.07 | Vexal | i told you |
| 01:18.20 | Vexal | in wc3 it was the same |
| 01:18.22 | JademusSreg | I already knew that, though. |
| 01:18.27 | Vexal | oh. |
| 01:18.30 | Vexal | well that's good. |
| 01:19.41 | JademusSreg | But. |
| 01:19.45 | JademusSreg | UnitGroupUnit(UnitCreate(bluh bluh args), 1) |
| 01:19.57 | JademusSreg | That will work if you're willing to use custom script a bit. |
| 01:20.29 | Vexal | i used custom script almost exclusively in wc3 |
| 01:20.38 | Vexal | but that was only because it was absolutely necessary. |
| 01:20.44 | Vexal | here, such seems not the case. |
| 01:21.18 | JademusSreg | I used vJass in wc3 exclusively. So fun. |
| 01:21.34 | Sumo- | is there a way to fetch the map size? |
| 01:21.39 | JademusSreg | Although Jass was verbose and ugly as fuck. |
| 01:21.39 | Vexal | throw it |
| 01:21.42 | Vexal | a dog will come back with it |
| 01:21.45 | JademusSreg | Yes, sumo. |
| 01:22.16 | JademusSreg | native point RegionGetBoundsMin (region r); |
| 01:22.16 | JademusSreg | native point RegionGetBoundsMax (region r); |
| 01:22.25 | Sumo- | ahhh |
| 01:22.50 | JademusSreg | Min returns the bottom left, max returns the top right. |
| 01:22.57 | JademusSreg | Then you operate on those values. |
| 01:23.48 | JademusSreg | In this case, you'd use the region RegionEntireMap() |
| 01:23.55 | Sumo- | cheers |
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| 01:31.30 | prodiG | can anyone help me try to make a custom animation? i'm trying to make a destructible xel'naga tower and i want to make an animation that is like the parts of the tower floating up and down between the point when the tower is on and off |
| 01:31.37 | prodiG | when the tower is activated |
| 01:32.04 | JademusSreg | Sadly, modelling is not my field. |
| 01:32.36 | prodiG | well in theory i don't need to model i just need to make an animation out of the build up and build down animations that already exist |
| 01:32.46 | prodiG | idk how feasible it is |
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| 01:37.35 | prodiG | yeah i think i can do this i just have to find the build up and build down animations :P |
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| 01:42.55 | lefix | basically, you want the xel naga tower animation playing backwards? :P |
| 01:43.19 | prodiG | sort of |
| 01:43.31 | prodiG | i want it to look like it's trying to put itself together but can't quite get there |
| 01:44.43 | lefix | i haven't really played around with animations in galaxy yet |
| 01:44.55 | prodiG | neither have i |
| 01:46.14 | lefix | let me open max |
| 01:46.33 | Vexal | can you just set the timescale to a negative number? |
| 01:47.39 | lefix | hmm |
| 01:47.58 | lefix | where do i find the xel'naga tower model file anyway? ^^ |
| 01:48.32 | lefix | do i have to extract the m3 file from some archive first? |
| 01:49.12 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 01:49.16 | JademusSreg | Assets |
| 01:49.43 | lefix | do i need another tool for that? |
| 01:50.05 | JademusSreg | MPQ editor, probably. |
| 01:50.09 | JademusSreg | I prefer Ladik's. |
| 01:51.56 | lefix | which mpq do i open? |
| 01:52.15 | lefix | sc2 main folder or somewhere in documents? |
| 01:52.28 | JademusSreg | It's in the program files. |
| 01:52.35 | JademusSreg | Mods |
| 01:53.03 | lefix | mods/core/base.sc2assets? |
| 01:53.21 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 01:53.25 | JademusSreg | That's one of them. |
| 01:54.03 | prodiG | so you can't actually play with the animations in the previewer can you? |
| 01:54.25 | JademusSreg | Not that I know. |
| 01:54.26 | lefix | no idea |
| 01:54.30 | prodiG | i've got to crack the .m3 files open in something else? |
| 01:54.31 | JademusSreg | But I'm not a modeller. |
| 01:57.05 | Skizot_IWON | bwahahahahaha |
| 01:57.22 | Skizot_IWON | that is all. |
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| 01:58.27 | lefix | i got the xel naga tower+bones and animation in max now :D |
| 01:58.32 | lefix | no textures tho :D |
| 02:01.19 | lefix | geez the rig is weird |
| 02:01.47 | JademusSreg | Try looking at the wraps on the rocks sometime. |
| 02:02.44 | lefix | heh |
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| 02:02.46 | Skittles | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQoIl_8I2TQ |
| 02:04.53 | lefix | 7sided strike looks fun |
| 02:04.57 | prodiG | fuck |
| 02:05.04 | prodiG | i duplicated my xel'naga tower and now iut has no model |
| 02:05.08 | prodiG | and i can't figure out why lmao |
| 02:05.33 | lefix | actor still linked to the correct model file? |
| 02:05.44 | prodiG | err |
| 02:05.51 | prodiG | the duplicated tower doesn't have a model |
| 02:05.58 | Skittles | mm |
| 02:05.59 | lefix | also try looking at it ingame, or restart galaxy, sometimes it doesn't update correctly |
| 02:06.15 | prodiG | i've got the stupid sphere model instead of an actual tower |
| 02:06.21 | Skittles | why wont the forums let me embed it. XD |
| 02:06.29 | lefix | i have that alot when i import selfmade models |
| 02:06.35 | lefix | but it shows up ingame |
| 02:06.40 | lefix | and when i restart galaxy |
| 02:07.03 | Skittles | is it because of the _ Xd |
| 02:07.32 | prodiG | why can't i copy entire units from one map to another t.t |
| 02:07.33 | lefix | "_" is making problems? ^^ |
| 02:07.39 | lefix | i used that often in filenames |
| 02:10.00 | Skittles | EQoIl_8I2TQ |
| 02:10.09 | Skittles | <<youtube EQoIl_8I2TQ>> |
| 02:10.18 | Skittles | _ is the only thing I can think of |
| 02:10.35 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka |
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| 02:10.47 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ |
| 02:10.56 | Skittles | @.@ |
| 02:10.58 | JademusSreg | Is the unit token correct? |
| 02:10.58 | Skittles | got it this time |
| 02:10.58 | onetwo | oops |
| 02:11.06 | Skittles | hmm |
| 02:11.08 | onetwo_WINNING | finally done video of the new map |
| 02:11.10 | onetwo_WINNING | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/19310-death-haven/#p1 |
| 02:11.11 | Skittles | onetwo whatcha think so far |
| 02:11.17 | Skittles | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQoIl_8I2TQ |
| 02:11.22 | onetwo_WINNING | ill look if you look |
| 02:11.28 | Skittles | thought the same thing |
| 02:11.31 | JademusSreg | Are the actor events correct? et cetera |
| 02:11.47 | JademusSreg | Duplicate is blasphemy. |
| 02:12.07 | Sumo- | whats the trick to making time of day tick? |
| 02:12.11 | onetwo_WINNING | man youre making cool spells |
| 02:12.13 | JademusSreg | Lights |
| 02:12.14 | onetwo_WINNING | skittles |
| 02:12.19 | onetwo_WINNING | id say zoom in a bit on the videos though |
| 02:12.24 | onetwo_WINNING | and make it more contrasted/brighter ingame |
| 02:12.36 | JademusSreg | Skit, nice work, some were impressive. |
| 02:13.11 | Skittles | thanks |
| 02:13.15 | Skittles | u already watched all of it? |
| 02:13.26 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 02:13.34 | Skittles | isn't it like 5 minutes @.@ |
| 02:13.39 | JademusSreg | I am amgic. |
| 02:13.42 | Skittles | 6 |
| 02:13.48 | JademusSreg | amgic is even more awesome than magic. |
| 02:13.51 | Skittles | lol didn't even finish onetwo's 1 paragraph. |
| 02:13.56 | Skittles | lol |
| 02:14.17 | onetwo_WINNING | lol |
| 02:15.05 | Skittles | im eatting too tho :p |
| 02:15.25 | Skittles | also forgot a few spells on my video. Xd |
| 02:15.46 | onetwo_WINNING | i like the flame ball throwing one |
| 02:15.51 | onetwo_WINNING | i liked your vid |
| 02:15.53 | Skittles | know any diabloish music? |
| 02:15.55 | Skittles | =D |
| 02:15.58 | Skittles | I'll like urs too |
| 02:16.01 | onetwo_WINNING | lol |
| 02:16.04 | Skittles | oh fire bomb |
| 02:16.12 | Skittles | u know I based my map off d3 right? |
| 02:16.32 | onetwo_WINNING | yeah |
| 02:16.36 | onetwo_WINNING | looking forward |
| 02:17.09 | JademusSreg | Scifi Barbarian |
| 02:17.22 | JademusSreg | Killing Scifi Fallen Ones |
| 02:19.52 | Skittles | thanks |
| 02:20.02 | Skittles | now let me look at urs real fast :p was adding a few fixes |
| 02:21.16 | onetwo_WINNING | heh |
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| 02:22.08 | Deathtorn | Hey |
| 02:23.57 | Skittles | It was pretty good onetwo. |
| 02:23.59 | Skittles | hi |
| 02:24.07 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 02:24.13 | onetwo_WINNING | :D |
| 02:24.18 | onetwo_WINNING | its a hard game |
| 02:24.45 | Deathtorn | What's up guys? |
| 02:24.56 | Skittles | the best part was the ending |
| 02:25.00 | Skittles | I suck at soloing |
| 02:25.04 | Sumo- | is there a decent guide on the day/night lighting system anywhere at all? |
| 02:25.08 | Skittles | Haha, lies. You just sucked. :p |
| 02:25.42 | onetwo_WINNING | shh |
| 02:25.52 | onetwo_WINNING | i swear there is Sumo |
| 02:25.55 | Deathtorn | sumo |
| 02:25.56 | onetwo_WINNING | searching sc2mapster |
| 02:26.01 | Skittles | btw |
| 02:26.03 | Skittles | my lighting is fine |
| 02:26.05 | Deathtorn | Isn't that just lighting objects? |
| 02:26.08 | Sumo- | yeah i keep looking but i cant find crap |
| 02:26.15 | Skittles | it's just a crappy texture for the floor atm |
| 02:26.16 | Sumo- | just dead threads with no decent replies |
| 02:26.20 | Skittles | couldn't find a good one |
| 02:26.32 | Skittles | what exactly do u need sumo? |
| 02:26.39 | Sumo- | i just want to control day/night |
| 02:26.41 | Deathtorn | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:26.46 | Skittles | There's a trigger |
| 02:26.47 | Sumo- | have it dynamic |
| 02:26.51 | Skittles | change light |
| 02:26.58 | Skittles | yeah that |
| 02:27.03 | Skittles | dynamic? |
| 02:27.04 | Sumo- | if i use the time of day stuff, it sets once but doesnt change |
| 02:27.18 | Skittles | so u want it to repeat? |
| 02:27.24 | Sumo- | i suppose, shit man |
| 02:27.35 | Sumo- | i just want it like goes light, goes dark, goes light, goes dark |
| 02:27.42 | Skittles | just do this: |
| 02:27.43 | Sumo- | night/day. |
| 02:27.45 | Skittles | make 2 lightings |
| 02:27.47 | Skittles | night and day |
| 02:28.00 | Skittles | periodic trigger every 180 seconds |
| 02:28.14 | Sumo- | ah and set the lighting |
| 02:28.17 | Sumo- | that 'll work i guess |
| 02:28.18 | Skittles | set lighting from light to dark |
| 02:28.21 | Skittles | blend time |
| 02:28.23 | Skittles | 180 seconds |
| 02:28.24 | Sumo- | do lightings have direction? |
| 02:28.43 | onetwo_WINNING | i think so |
| 02:28.44 | Skittles | then add a wait and mix the thing up |
| 02:28.44 | onetwo_WINNING | somewhere? |
| 02:28.48 | prodiG | k i can't get a model for this thing to work :( |
| 02:28.50 | Skittles | direction? Like shadows? |
| 02:28.55 | Sumo- | yeah |
| 02:28.57 | Skittles | yeah |
| 02:29.00 | Sumo- | shadows gotta update right |
| 02:29.05 | Skittles | yeah |
| 02:29.06 | Skittles | they do |
| 02:29.15 | Skittles | there was this one lighting thing done for I think a WTE |
| 02:29.18 | Skittles | it was a clock |
| 02:29.30 | Skittles | made with a shadow casted from a glyth |
| 02:30.09 | Sumo- | ooh |
| 02:30.20 | prodiG | how do you put a model on a unit? |
| 02:30.26 | Skittles | shadow was the hand |
| 02:30.34 | Skittles | so basically a whatcha call it |
| 02:31.07 | Skittles | idk |
| 02:31.08 | Skittles | lol |
| 02:31.18 | Sumo- | are there any good lights to use as a base? |
| 02:31.48 | JademusSreg | Take a look at Meinhoff's campaign lights. |
| 02:32.21 | Sumo- | ah excellent!! |
| 02:33.31 | Skittles | jade |
| 02:33.37 | Skittles | what's it called? |
| 02:33.43 | Skittles | sun watch thing |
| 02:33.44 | Skittles | sun dial! |
| 02:33.53 | Skittles | sundial |
| 02:35.46 | Sumo- | woah that lighting is working crazy |
| 02:36.15 | onetwo_WINNING | whats with it |
| 02:36.25 | Sumo- | nothing bad |
| 02:36.27 | Sumo- | just really cool |
| 02:37.43 | RyanWin | hmmm that gives me an idea |
| 02:37.58 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 02:38.26 | RyanWin | I want to make some structures now using ancient egyptian and mayan shadow tricks.. |
| 02:38.45 | onetwo_WINNING | show me an Screenshot sumo |
| 02:38.50 | onetwo_WINNING | a* |
| 02:38.56 | RyanWin | me too |
| 02:39.07 | JademusSreg | Lights are all sorts of awesome. |
| 02:39.35 | Skittles | Omg |
| 02:39.42 | Skittles | I can't believe I didn't forget 1, but 2 dashes. |
| 02:40.09 | Sumo- | onetwo_WINNING: its nothing special, just cycles day and night |
| 02:40.23 | onetwo_WINNING | lol |
| 02:40.24 | Skittles | what are u winning anyway? |
| 02:40.34 | onetwo_WINNING | you name it |
| 02:40.37 | onetwo_WINNING | ryan knows what im talking about |
| 02:40.40 | onetwo_WINNING | just winning |
| 02:40.44 | onetwo_WINNING | charlie style |
| 02:41.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ravonus (43adf1dc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.173.241.220) |
| 02:41.21 | Ravonus | how do i make a button able to be selected from any player? |
| 02:42.01 | Deaod | you make one for every player, assuming youre not just missing some obvious parameter of the function. |
| 02:43.48 | JademusSreg | There are dialog, I hope. |
| 02:50.57 | Skittles | lol |
| 02:51.01 | Skittles | onetwo_winning |
| 02:51.10 | Skittles | listen to celtic sympothy |
| 02:51.24 | Skittles | celtic symphony |
| 02:51.30 | Skittles | and tell me if I should use that song. |
| 02:51.31 | Skittles | lol |
| 02:52.49 | onetwo_WINNING | brb dinner |
| 02:52.50 | onetwo_WINNING | link |
| 02:53.07 | Skittles | =() |
| 02:53.16 | Skittles | idk im on replace audio |
| 02:53.30 | Skittles | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6emGGwGqhI |
| 02:54.06 | onetwo_WINNING | haha wtfi s that |
| 02:54.08 | onetwo_WINNING | dont use it |
| 02:54.10 | onetwo_WINNING | wtf is* |
| 02:54.10 | Skittles | lol |
| 02:54.12 | onetwo_WINNING | afk now |
| 02:54.16 | Skittles | im so tempted |
| 02:54.18 | Skittles | even says devil |
| 03:09.14 | *** join/#sc2mapster grim001 (~chatzilla@c-69-246-170-145.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 03:09.19 | grim001 | ... |
| 03:09.52 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 03:10.20 | JManV | got 5 command card submenus so far jademus :P |
| 03:10.27 | JademusSreg | =) |
| 03:10.44 | JManV | pretty sure i can do 15 |
| 03:10.55 | JManV | pain in the add tho |
| 03:11.01 | JManV | can't open the command card in the data editor |
| 03:11.08 | JManV | it will delete all the extra cards |
| 03:11.18 | JManV | plus, if something doesn't work, it doesn't exactly tell you why |
| 03:11.21 | JManV | it just doesn't work |
| 03:11.31 | JManV | but i'm making do. it's pretty cool nonetheless |
| 03:14.26 | JademusSreg | =) |
| 03:14.40 | JademusSreg | Arbitrary editor limits can kiss my ass. |
| 03:14.50 | JManV | indeed |
| 03:15.02 | JManV | this map feels like the sims |
| 03:15.03 | JManV | building a house |
| 03:16.18 | Skittles | neat already got a sub from taht video |
| 03:17.41 | onetwo_WINNING | fuck yeah guys |
| 03:17.44 | onetwo_WINNING | my boy is doing a live stream |
| 03:17.46 | onetwo_WINNING | http://www.ustream.tv/charliesheen |
| 03:17.48 | onetwo_WINNING | live LOL |
| 03:18.18 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 03:18.26 | Skittles | lol |
| 03:18.42 | onetwo_WINNING | hes winning |
| 03:18.44 | onetwo_WINNING | tattoo of winning too |
| 03:19.14 | Skittles | he looks so old now |
| 03:19.24 | Skittles | I remember two and half men. Xd |
| 03:20.13 | onetwo_WINNING | charlie sheen has as many live viewers as i get in like 4 months |
| 03:20.14 | onetwo_WINNING | fuck |
| 03:20.24 | onetwo_WINNING | i need him to join Sixen and my mapping team |
| 03:20.26 | onetwo_WINNING | for exposure |
| 03:20.41 | JManV | he's charlie sheen |
| 03:20.47 | JManV | he's a national joke right now :P |
| 03:21.05 | Twiner | wow... |
| 03:21.07 | Twiner | funny that |
| 03:21.15 | onetwo_WINNING | hes brilliant |
| 03:21.17 | onetwo_WINNING | 'wordsmithing' |
| 03:21.18 | Twiner | an enitrely different channel is on this exact same subject... |
| 03:21.19 | onetwo_WINNING | man |
| 03:21.29 | JademusSreg | Offer his a hooker. |
| 03:21.32 | JademusSreg | *him |
| 03:21.36 | Skittles | lol |
| 03:21.43 | onetwo_WINNING | well im the lead charlie sheen enthusiast in sc2 mapping world |
| 03:21.59 | Skittles | lol |
| 03:22.50 | Sixen | He'll join. |
| 03:22.51 | Skittles | Sixen |
| 03:22.54 | Skittles | <3 |
| 03:22.56 | Skittles | http://www.youtube.com/my_videos?feature=mhum |
| 03:23.09 | onetwo_WINNING | thats not a link |
| 03:23.12 | onetwo_WINNING | to a video |
| 03:23.20 | Skittles | no that totally is |
| 03:23.38 | onetwo_WINNING | it is? |
| 03:23.44 | Sixen | No idea what it is |
| 03:23.47 | onetwo_WINNING | its a link to my own videos |
| 03:23.49 | onetwo_WINNING | i have uploaded |
| 03:23.51 | onetwo_WINNING | for whoever clicks it |
| 03:24.06 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:24.14 | Bounty | Rules of Sheens Corner |
| 03:24.17 | Bounty | No Trolls Allowed |
| 03:24.25 | Bounty | spoken from the man himself >< |
| 03:24.58 | Skittles | It's a porn link, better hurry. |
| 03:25.14 | onetwo_WINNING | sheen can have 100,000 viewers on a stream seamlessly |
| 03:25.16 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 03:25.22 | onetwo_WINNING | meanwhile jmanv tries to host 5 people on his stream |
| 03:25.24 | onetwo_WINNING | and it lags like hell |
| 03:25.25 | onetwo_WINNING | lol |
| 03:25.33 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:25.36 | Skittles | lol |
| 03:25.44 | Skittles | wait, you stream it to people? |
| 03:25.53 | JManV | no |
| 03:25.55 | Skittles | I thought you streamed to the site and they convert it for u and post it |
| 03:25.59 | JManV | i streamed it to ustream |
| 03:26.03 | Skittles | yeah |
| 03:26.05 | Twiner | suspects sheen is trying to take ove the world |
| 03:26.26 | Bounty | How long has he been doing this stream? lol |
| 03:26.32 | Bounty | bc thats hillarious if he JUST started doing it |
| 03:26.34 | Skittles | says on vid |
| 03:26.36 | onetwo_WINNING | just started |
| 03:26.36 | Skittles | about 3 minutes |
| 03:26.38 | onetwo_WINNING | first one |
| 03:26.42 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:26.44 | onetwo_WINNING | this is the IT place |
| 03:26.45 | Bounty | the mans a genius |
| 03:26.47 | onetwo_WINNING | yeah |
| 03:27.03 | Bounty | perfect timing to do something like this, makes the media look even worse lol |
| 03:27.16 | Skittles | lol |
| 03:27.20 | Skittles | they just so happen to have a picture |
| 03:27.24 | onetwo_WINNING | lol |
| 03:27.25 | JManV | VODs of stream from yesterday seem lag free |
| 03:27.27 | onetwo_WINNING | theyre doing a big production |
| 03:27.31 | onetwo_WINNING | it seems |
| 03:27.33 | onetwo_WINNING | with ustream |
| 03:27.42 | onetwo_WINNING | this is the brilliance of the internet |
| 03:27.44 | JManV | nvm |
| 03:27.49 | onetwo_WINNING | do what you want when you want, not held back by barriers |
| 03:27.51 | onetwo_WINNING | just like sheen's motto |
| 03:27.59 | Skittles | lets prank call him |
| 03:28.13 | Skittles | cuz i want to do that |
| 03:28.19 | Bounty | i swear |
| 03:28.39 | Bounty | its like he saw that "Sheen is Winning" youtube video and went with it lol |
| 03:28.45 | onetwo_WINNING | he used to be in some great movies, but now he is the movie |
| 03:28.50 | Skittles | 103k |
| 03:28.52 | Skittles | holy shit |
| 03:28.58 | Skittles | i thought it was 10.3k |
| 03:30.14 | Skittles | lol he has a sippy cup |
| 03:30.15 | Jygga | was spiking at 130k or sth but people moved on after 10 minutes |
| 03:31.23 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 03:31.31 | onetwo_WINNING | hAHAH |
| 03:31.34 | onetwo_WINNING | WINNING... DUH |
| 03:31.36 | Skittles | lol everyone's trying to ad on the side |
| 03:32.07 | onetwo_WINNING | sheen is getting like the same amount of viewers that a nightly national news show gets |
| 03:32.09 | onetwo_WINNING | and hes online |
| 03:32.11 | onetwo_WINNING | ROFL |
| 03:32.12 | onetwo_WINNING | yeah skittlkes |
| 03:32.20 | onetwo_WINNING | hell i should fly by youtube.com/onetwosc |
| 03:32.24 | JademusSreg | Hilarious. |
| 03:32.42 | onetwo_WINNING | HAHAHHAAH |
| 03:32.45 | onetwo_WINNING | his guns |
| 03:33.04 | onetwo_WINNING | wtf |
| 03:33.07 | onetwo_WINNING | he knows the term 'gg' ? |
| 03:33.13 | onetwo_WINNING | or something else? |
| 03:33.23 | JademusSreg | Hwe didn't say "ggg". |
| 03:33.29 | Twiner | Gaming is pretty popular |
| 03:33.31 | JademusSreg | So I think the young lady's face is safe. |
| 03:35.17 | Skittles | fastball |
| 03:35.18 | Skittles | ! |
| 03:40.54 | onetwo_WINNING | winning |
| 03:41.45 | Skittles | Send it right and send it fast. I closed it a bit ago. |
| 03:41.50 | tordy | >:) |
| 03:43.56 | Skittles | onetwo_Winning what comes after onetwo again? |
| 03:44.16 | onetwo_WINNING | PFFT |
| 03:44.17 | onetwo_WINNING | winning |
| 03:45.08 | onetwo_WINNING | his brain is genius |
| 03:45.16 | onetwo_WINNING | what he writes on the spot is 10x better than a team of overpaid writers on TV |
| 03:45.18 | onetwo_WINNING | my god |
| 03:45.19 | onetwo_WINNING | lol |
| 03:45.28 | onetwo_WINNING | im jelly of his skills |
| 03:48.23 | onetwo_WINNING | i almost wish he didnt have gfs/wife and kids |
| 03:48.25 | onetwo_WINNING | he could be so much more |
| 03:52.26 | onetwo_WINNING | the lighting is actually very precise |
| 03:52.27 | onetwo_WINNING | in his room |
| 03:53.35 | onetwo_WINNING | awe so sad its over |
| 03:56.01 | Sixen | your map looks sick |
| 03:58.02 | Skittles | hmm |
| 03:58.05 | onetwo_WINNING | haha thanks |
| 03:58.09 | onetwo_WINNING | i hope its fun |
| 03:58.09 | Skittles | he was talking to me |
| 03:58.14 | onetwo_WINNING | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 03:58.22 | onetwo_WINNING | can it be both? |
| 03:58.23 | onetwo_WINNING | lol |
| 03:58.26 | Sixen | lol |
| 03:58.29 | Skittles | It can, but is not! |
| 03:58.33 | Skittles | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQoIl_8I2TQ |
| 03:58.41 | Skittles | gogo! Let the world feel it's wrath! |
| 03:59.12 | Bounty | do line of sight blockers work? |
| 03:59.14 | Bounty | the doodads |
| 03:59.25 | onetwo_WINNING | i think so?> |
| 03:59.32 | onetwo_WINNING | looks and sounds great skittles |
| 03:59.40 | Skittles | lol |
| 03:59.47 | Skittles | like the new music? |
| 03:59.55 | Skittles | Spent like 40 minutes looking for one.. but... eh |
| 04:02.04 | onetwo_WINNING | lol |
| 04:02.13 | onetwo_WINNING | thx for post sixen |
| 04:02.14 | Bounty | .... |
| 04:02.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster DeepStrike (62dc30b4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.220.48.180) |
| 04:02.19 | Bounty | line of sight blockers arent working |
| 04:02.23 | Bounty | am i doing something wrong? lol |
| 04:05.38 | Skittles | shemami = sixen? |
| 04:05.51 | Skittles | they are going to be fixed next patch i think bounty |
| 04:06.01 | Bounty | .... |
| 04:06.03 | Bounty | they dont work? |
| 04:06.19 | Skittles | i think they do |
| 04:06.26 | Skittles | just not as they should be |
| 04:06.47 | Bounty | do they block LoS or not =P |
| 04:07.00 | Skittles | idk |
| 04:07.12 | Skittles | all I can say is maybe! |
| 04:12.21 | *** join/#sc2mapster Cintiq (~cintiq@219-90-158-226.ip.adam.com.au) |
| 04:13.51 | Skittles | back |
| 04:18.30 | Skittles | lol 12 |
| 04:18.37 | Skittles | onetwo_winning |
| 04:18.41 | Skittles | ur video... hahaah |
| 04:19.00 | Skittles | You'll protect them until we mine every darn mineral |
| 04:19.13 | Skittles | And if you dont mind... protect the power plant |
| 04:19.14 | Skittles | haha |
| 04:19.21 | Skittles | demanding => eh what ever |
| 04:19.36 | onetwo_WINNING | dont you cross the haven miners |
| 04:19.39 | onetwo_WINNING | theyre tough sobs |
| 04:19.42 | onetwo_WINNING | that want the job done well |
| 04:20.02 | onetwo_WINNING | but theyre also realistic |
| 04:20.37 | onetwo_WINNING | youre elite but not gods |
| 04:20.58 | JademusSreg | LOS blockers work fine for me. |
| 04:21.03 | Skittles | lol |
| 04:21.12 | Skittles | jmanv |
| 04:21.21 | Skittles | wana hop on and try out onetwos map? |
| 04:21.23 | Bounty | Jademus |
| 04:21.26 | Bounty | how do u use them? |
| 04:21.31 | Bounty | u just plop them down right? |
| 04:21.34 | onetwo_WINNING | im just updating it hehe |
| 04:21.43 | Skittles | updating? |
| 04:21.46 | onetwo_WINNING | the last 2 abils for each class arent in the game atm |
| 04:21.51 | onetwo_WINNING | but since no one will get 2k kills for a long time |
| 04:21.54 | onetwo_WINNING | its not a rush |
| 04:21.58 | JademusSreg | Yeah, they're just doodads + a footprint that defines it blocks vision. |
| 04:22.01 | Skittles | u know ur video is on the news right? |
| 04:22.06 | onetwo_WINNING | yes |
| 04:22.18 | Bounty | then how come my units arent walking around |
| 04:22.19 | Bounty | its a corner |
| 04:22.22 | Skittles | u know mine isn't, right? |
| 04:22.24 | Bounty | and im hiding on the other side |
| 04:22.29 | Bounty | and they dont come after me |
| 04:22.33 | onetwo_WINNING | it might be |
| 04:23.08 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 04:23.11 | *** join/#sc2mapster PatchOne (5cfc3074@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.252.48.116) |
| 04:23.13 | Bounty | ? |
| 04:23.17 | Bounty | what dont u understand lol |
| 04:23.32 | onetwo_WINNING | ?? |
| 04:23.43 | JademusSreg | Yes. Exactly. |
| 04:23.57 | Bounty | cmon, if this doesnt work thats the end of my fucking map |
| 04:24.11 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 04:24.22 | Bounty | how is that funny |
| 04:24.52 | PatchOne | hey guys. anyone out there able to assist in some hero-revive-trigger issue? |
| 04:24.52 | JademusSreg | LOS blockers block vision, but only if the region isn't already revealed. Do you reveal the entire region? |
| 04:25.02 | Bounty | yeah |
| 04:25.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:25.11 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 04:25.25 | onetwo_WINNING | w/e player needs the los block |
| 04:25.27 | onetwo_WINNING | cant have full vision |
| 04:25.29 | Bounty | so just give the units a big ass sight radius? |
| 04:25.35 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 04:25.37 | onetwo_WINNING | yeah |
| 04:25.42 | Bounty | and get rid of the reveal |
| 04:25.46 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 04:26.05 | JademusSreg | Patch, you'll need to be more specific. |
| 04:26.37 | PatchOne | k, i created a hero revive out of this tutorial |
| 04:26.38 | PatchOne | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/16117-complete-noobs-guide-to-dota-style-maps-part-3/ |
| 04:26.51 | PatchOne | problem is the respawn location on my map |
| 04:27.49 | JademusSreg | Zeldar should make his next tutorial "Make your own McDonalds". That shit would sell. |
| 04:27.51 | PatchOne | i didnt followed the complete tutorial from step one, so that used respawn locations does not exist on my map - i have others, but cant apply them to the trigger |
| 04:27.58 | PatchOne | :D |
| 04:27.59 | Bounty | ok well |
| 04:28.01 | Bounty | Jade |
| 04:28.04 | Bounty | they still arent walking aroujn |
| 04:28.10 | Bounty | around* |
| 04:28.20 | JademusSreg | Aren't walking around what, bounty? The corner? |
| 04:28.25 | Bounty | yes |
| 04:28.28 | Bounty | even after i aggro them |
| 04:28.38 | JademusSreg | Are they walking through the corner? |
| 04:28.41 | Bounty | no |
| 04:28.46 | Bounty | they just chill on the other side |
| 04:28.50 | JademusSreg | What range do they have? |
| 04:28.58 | Bounty | weapon range? |
| 04:29.21 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 04:29.25 | Bounty | 20 |
| 04:30.30 | JademusSreg | I wonder if they are being revealed on attack. |
| 04:30.45 | Bounty | is there a trigger i can use? |
| 04:30.50 | Bounty | to check the pathing between 2 points |
| 04:30.55 | Shawn|Rawr | yes |
| 04:30.56 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 04:31.09 | Shawn|Rawr | Check Pathing Cost action iirc |
| 04:32.06 | PatchOne | goddamn i hate that a map can run fine in the normal testing, but on bnet its totally messed up... |
| 04:32.52 | *** join/#sc2mapster MrOp (MrOp@76.76.73.7) |
| 04:32.59 | MrOp | hello |
| 04:33.38 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 04:33.40 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 04:33.55 | MrOp | :) |
| 04:34.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster furymonkey (7defeda3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.125.239.237.163) |
| 04:38.26 | Bounty | wtf |
| 04:38.33 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:38.38 | Bounty | you cant select "passable" |
| 04:38.43 | Bounty | you used to be able to |
| 04:41.10 | PatchOne | i fixed my revive issue.. but now i have another problem and a question to it - is it possible to have a unit keep all behaviours that it got even if it dies and gets revived? |
| 04:41.36 | PatchOne | im giving my heroes "attribute" behaviours that increase their attributes, but as soons as a hero dies he looses all of them |
| 04:41.37 | JademusSreg | If you can record them, sure. |
| 04:41.57 | JademusSreg | Give the unit a death time greater than 0. |
| 04:42.05 | PatchOne | it has 9999 |
| 04:42.29 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 04:44.10 | JademusSreg | You should be able to get the values. |
| 04:45.01 | PatchOne | like counting how often that unit "bought" that attribute, storing in a variable and reapply it on revive? |
| 04:45.24 | JademusSreg | Sure, that's an option. |
| 04:49.23 | furymonkey | I tried to import the aiur chef layout file, and added it to the custom layout in data editor, but it still doesn't show, am I missing something? |
| 04:55.38 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 04:56.41 | Bounty | soo |
| 04:56.42 | Bounty | this sucks lol |
| 04:56.46 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:56.49 | Bounty | how is that not working |
| 04:56.54 | Bounty | is it bc its a corner? |
| 04:59.06 | JademusSreg | I am too tired to be helpful. About to go to sleep. |
| 04:59.15 | JademusSreg | I promise to be helpful tomorrow. |
| 05:00.30 | Deathtorn | Hello |
| 05:00.36 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 05:03.07 | Vexal | hello. |
| 05:05.17 | onetwo_WINNING | hey vexal you know anything about buffs increasing weapon range? |
| 05:05.24 | onetwo_WINNING | can i just plunk a '9' in the range field of a bheavior buff |
| 05:05.25 | onetwo_WINNING | behavior |
| 05:05.26 | Vexal | yeah |
| 05:05.28 | onetwo_WINNING | if default range is 7 |
| 05:05.31 | onetwo_WINNING | thatll be +2 ? |
| 05:05.32 | Vexal | wait what |
| 05:05.37 | Vexal | uh |
| 05:05.41 | Vexal | it's add |
| 05:05.43 | Vexal | it adds |
| 05:05.44 | onetwo_WINNING | really> |
| 05:05.48 | onetwo_WINNING | it doesnt say bonus |
| 05:05.53 | Vexal | what was the question |
| 05:05.58 | Vexal | be explicit |
| 05:06.04 | onetwo_WINNING | increasing weapon range on the unit to be +2 |
| 05:06.10 | onetwo_WINNING | when he has a behavior on |
| 05:06.16 | onetwo_WINNING | so from 7 to 9 in this case |
| 05:06.21 | Vexal | okay |
| 05:06.25 | Vexal | i have an agililty attribute |
| 05:06.26 | onetwo_WINNING | so i made a buff, went to Weapon tab |
| 05:06.28 | onetwo_WINNING | yeah? |
| 05:06.34 | Vexal | and i gave it ".1" in the weapon range |
| 05:06.39 | Vexal | so each point increases it by .1 |
| 05:06.42 | Vexal | it adds. |
| 05:06.43 | onetwo_WINNING | ah interesting |
| 05:06.45 | onetwo_WINNING | thats not clear on their part |
| 05:06.48 | Vexal | is that what you want? |
| 05:06.50 | onetwo_WINNING | yes |
| 05:06.53 | Vexal | fantastic. |
| 05:06.55 | onetwo_WINNING | i want to just put '2' there i guess |
| 05:07.01 | Bounty | Vexal |
| 05:07.03 | onetwo_WINNING | its weird because most 'add' fields say bonus like life armor bonus |
| 05:07.04 | Bounty | Need your help :) |
| 05:07.05 | onetwo_WINNING | or weapon scan bonus |
| 05:07.05 | Vexal | yeah? |
| 05:07.07 | Vexal | what with |
| 05:07.19 | Bounty | with the new boss.. there is a corner |
| 05:07.28 | Bounty | and its path blocked so projectiles dont go through it |
| 05:07.37 | Bounty | but if u hide on one side and enemies are on the other... they just stand there |
| 05:07.55 | Bounty | i need to find a way to draw a line between the enemy and his target to see if that line is blocked |
| 05:08.08 | Bounty | not FULLY blocked just if there is any pathing blockage in that line |
| 05:08.30 | onetwo_WINNING | atleast my question was easy |
| 05:08.31 | onetwo_WINNING | lol |
| 05:08.47 | Vexal | well |
| 05:08.59 | Vexal | i'd check collision with a ray pointing from the enemy toward the target |
| 05:09.05 | Vexal | check the intersection with the blocked area |
| 05:09.08 | Vexal | put a region there or something. |
| 05:09.15 | Vexal | see if the ray intersects it. |
| 05:09.19 | Bounty | ray? lol |
| 05:09.41 | Vexal | google "ray bounding square intersection" |
| 05:09.54 | Vexal | or bounding rectangle |
| 05:09.55 | Vexal | or box |
| 05:10.01 | Bounty | how about... |
| 05:10.01 | JademusSreg | Iterate along the line, get units in radius of the interval points. |
| 05:10.02 | Bounty | fuck it? |
| 05:10.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:10.07 | Vexal | iterate along the line? |
| 05:10.14 | Vexal | that's inefficient. |
| 05:10.20 | JademusSreg | No shit. |
| 05:10.23 | Vexal | oh |
| 05:10.25 | Vexal | was it a joke |
| 05:10.55 | Bounty | when u tell me to do something u need to tell it to me like your talking to ME |
| 05:10.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:11.00 | JademusSreg | Naw, it was a suggestion for a shitty problem. There may or may not be a more efficient method. |
| 05:11.34 | Vexal | you could also put a region surrounding the spot that confuses the enemies |
| 05:11.39 | Vexal | if the players are hiding in that spot |
| 05:11.39 | onetwo_WINNING | were playing in the game of the galaxy editor |
| 05:11.47 | Vexal | bounty do you see what i mean? |
| 05:11.53 | RyanWin | is there a fight going on? |
| 05:12.01 | RyanWin | *gets popcorn* |
| 05:12.02 | JademusSreg | HADOKEN |
| 05:12.16 | Bounty | http://pastebin.com/Y49s9umF |
| 05:12.20 | Vexal | moon tiara action |
| 05:12.29 | JademusSreg | Vexal has a nice idea, if you can be certain of the angle of attack. |
| 05:12.36 | Bounty | what happens is if i hide around a corner they just continue shooting |
| 05:12.40 | Vexal | bounty i don't want to read all that |
| 05:12.49 | Bounty | u dont have to |
| 05:12.51 | Vexal | but, an easier thing to do is just have a region containing the corner |
| 05:12.57 | Bounty | u cant help if u dont read that at all |
| 05:12.59 | Vexal | to keep track if a player is hiding there |
| 05:13.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:13.11 | Bounty | bc then ull understand how it works |
| 05:13.25 | Vexal | what's wrong with the two suggestions i gave you |
| 05:13.25 | Bounty | thats the enemies attack |
| 05:13.56 | Bounty | the one with the region? wouldnt work |
| 05:13.59 | Bounty | bc of the design of the area |
| 05:14.47 | Vexal | they both use regions. |
| 05:15.04 | Vexal | just have special AI considerations for dealing with that area |
| 05:15.12 | Vexal | if the game detects the enemy is attempting to attack players in the corner |
| 05:15.22 | Vexal | order the AI to move in a manner such that it's not confused. |
| 05:15.31 | Bounty | derp |
| 05:15.35 | Bounty | i think that might work |
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| 05:30.32 | Vexal | how do i use a buff to disable a unit's ability to move? |
| 05:30.39 | Vexal | is that the "snare multiplier" field? |
| 05:30.44 | onetwo_WINNING | let me check |
| 05:30.58 | Vexal | there's a movement speed multiplier, but it only goes down to .01 |
| 05:31.22 | onetwo_WINNING | Go to behavior tab |
| 05:31.28 | onetwo_WINNING | go down to modify flags |
| 05:31.30 | onetwo_WINNING | near bottom |
| 05:31.35 | onetwo_WINNING | Enable Move |
| 05:31.37 | onetwo_WINNING | set to disabled |
| 05:32.10 | onetwo_WINNING | behavior tab of your modification i meant |
| 05:32.29 | onetwo_WINNING | wait that might not work |
| 05:32.31 | Vexal | i see "Enable move" and it's set to "disabled" |
| 05:32.33 | onetwo_WINNING | since its disabled by default |
| 05:32.35 | onetwo_WINNING | hmm |
| 05:32.36 | onetwo_WINNING | k well |
| 05:32.43 | onetwo_WINNING | make movement speed maximum 0.0 |
| 05:32.46 | onetwo_WINNING | in movement tab |
| 05:32.58 | onetwo_WINNING | i think that does it |
| 05:33.18 | Vexal | i'll try that, thanks. |
| 05:33.29 | onetwo_WINNING | i remember back in beta when we duplicated hero veterancy |
| 05:33.33 | onetwo_WINNING | it said that to 0 on 2nd level |
| 05:33.34 | onetwo_WINNING | by accident |
| 05:33.37 | onetwo_WINNING | and nobodys hero could move |
| 05:33.39 | onetwo_WINNING | or use any move abilities |
| 05:33.46 | Vexal | yeah i remember that |
| 05:33.51 | Vexal | i couldn't figure out why heroes couldn't move |
| 05:33.58 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 05:34.12 | JademusSreg | Because Time Scale defaulted to zero. |
| 05:40.47 | Skittles | =D |
| 05:40.59 | Skittles | my projectile system is ready nows. |
| 05:41.22 | Skittles | minus collision, damage, and ending effect. But who needs that? |
| 05:42.05 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 05:44.27 | Vexal | do missiles created from a launch effect trigger the event "unit is created using ____ ability" |
| 05:44.58 | JademusSreg | I dunno. Never tried. |
| 05:45.47 | Vexal | i'd like to use a trigger to apply a behavior to a projectile from the caster |
| 05:46.35 | onetwo_WINNING | Vexal: probably since missiles are units |
| 05:46.49 | onetwo_WINNING | eg at the bottom of unit tab in data editor are a bunch of "Weapon - #############" |
| 05:46.50 | onetwo_WINNING | units |
| 05:47.05 | Vexal | but does the event only fire for abilities specifically designed to create units |
| 05:47.13 | Vexal | or does it fire for any unit indirectly related to the ability |
| 05:47.36 | onetwo_WINNING | i think it fires for ANY unit created in any way |
| 05:47.46 | onetwo_WINNING | but go ahead and find out by displaying a message |
| 05:47.50 | onetwo_WINNING | see if it goes off when your missile fires |
| 05:48.18 | onetwo_WINNING | otherwise you could just check when the unit attacks, look for the closest missile of that type near the caster |
| 05:48.22 | onetwo_WINNING | and apply buff to it |
| 05:48.24 | onetwo_WINNING | but thats hacky 2ndary option |
| 05:48.40 | Vexal | is there a way to make it so all projectile units show up in the unit palette without going through each one and deselecting "no placement" |
| 05:49.24 | onetwo_WINNING | what? |
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| 05:50.31 | Vexal | all projectile units can't be placed in the editor because the "no placement" flag is selected |
| 05:50.38 | Vexal | so if you want to place them, you have to unselect it |
| 05:50.46 | Vexal | but it's annoying for browsing the different projectiles.. |
| 05:50.54 | onetwo_WINNING | i would just go to model tab |
| 05:50.56 | onetwo_WINNING | find a random one |
| 05:50.59 | onetwo_WINNING | preview its model |
| 05:51.01 | onetwo_WINNING | then go to browser |
| 05:51.01 | Vexal | that's a waste of time |
| 05:51.08 | Vexal | since the previewer never ever corresponds to the unit |
| 05:51.15 | Vexal | i can never find anything in the model or actor tab |
| 05:51.20 | Vexal | after finding it in the previewer |
| 05:51.28 | onetwo_WINNING | haha damn blizz naming convention |
| 05:55.32 | onetwo_WINNING | omfg trying to give a different unit raynor's red-beam snipe |
| 05:55.34 | onetwo_WINNING | is a pain |
| 05:55.36 | onetwo_WINNING | like 15 actors |
| 05:55.38 | onetwo_WINNING | all tied into his unit |
| 05:55.46 | onetwo_WINNING | sometimes blizz does stuff the hard way |
| 05:56.10 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 06:03.43 | Vexal | onetwo it works |
| 06:08.37 | Vexal | ahhh |
| 06:08.43 | Vexal | how do i get the unit that created the unit |
| 06:08.48 | Vexal | triggering unit is grayed out |
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| 06:14.29 | onetwo_WINNING | hmm i dont know |
| 06:14.39 | Vexal | iy worked anyway |
| 06:14.43 | onetwo_WINNING | oh |
| 06:17.24 | onetwo_WINNING | fyi guys dont try to give a different hero the raynor snipe |
| 06:17.32 | onetwo_WINNING | itll take like an hour of renaming and relinking actors |
| 06:17.38 | onetwo_WINNING | that you have no idea what are doing |
| 06:17.40 | Vexal | reminds me of the chuck norris jokes |
| 06:17.41 | onetwo_WINNING | they* |
| 06:17.59 | Vexal | "you don't give a hero chuck norris's weapon, you give chuck norris's weapon a hero" |
| 06:18.04 | onetwo_WINNING | yeah |
| 06:19.50 | Skittles | onetwo |
| 06:20.13 | Skittles | why dont u just have it copy what's needed to be copied? |
| 06:20.17 | Skittles | No reason to rename it |
| 06:20.27 | Skittles | just makes it look nice n neat |
| 06:20.35 | grim001 | is it strange that I spent hours thoroughly documenting my code even when I have no intention of sharing it |
| 06:20.43 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 06:21.07 | JademusSreg | Like documenting a descent into madness. |
| 06:21.46 | grim001 | I just documented my "library" filled with 11 different variations on Print |
| 06:21.49 | onetwo_WINNING | i didnt even rename it |
| 06:22.00 | onetwo_WINNING | but so much of the spell is tied into raynorcommando and his events |
| 06:22.01 | onetwo_WINNING | too |
| 06:22.57 | onetwo_WINNING | id hate to see the meeting where the data editor maker explained how to make a spell like raynor snipe |
| 06:22.58 | onetwo_WINNING | to a map maker |
| 06:22.59 | onetwo_WINNING | :O |
| 06:23.44 | onetwo_WINNING | well actually id love it |
| 06:23.56 | grim001 | I have to say that it's really useful, but the more "basic" stuff is, the more resistant it becomes to code sharing |
| 06:24.26 | grim001 | people feel insulted to use someone else's code if it's not complicated enough that they couldn't code it in a few minutes |
| 06:24.33 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 06:24.38 | JademusSreg | Like H2I |
| 06:24.40 | grim001 | or at least think they could code it in a few minutes |
| 06:24.51 | JademusSreg | Or constant true false boolexprs. |
| 06:24.59 | grim001 | nevermind the amount of thought that goes into deciding WHAT to code and what patterns to follow |
| 06:25.12 | grim001 | 11 different print functions could get unruly |
| 06:26.43 | onetwo_WINNING | ill give you unruly |
| 06:27.40 | JademusSreg | grim, do you use libraries or just scripts? |
| 06:28.48 | grim001 | i'm just creating a bunch of different custom script triggers |
| 06:28.54 | grim001 | I can't figure out how to work libraries |
| 06:29.08 | grim001 | and it looks like much more effort than it's worth |
| 06:29.27 | JademusSreg | Libraries are just xml files, too. |
| 06:29.39 | Vexal | life is one big xml file. |
| 06:29.55 | grim001 | I wouldn't bother unless the map somehow automatically imported the updated scripts each time it was saved |
| 06:29.57 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka |
| 06:30.34 | JademusSreg | Libraries also seem to refer to functions non-explicitly. |
| 06:30.43 | JademusSreg | It's very disturbing. |
| 06:30.54 | grim001 | how do you refer to a function non-explicitly? |
| 06:31.05 | JademusSreg | Open up a library and see. |
| 06:31.22 | JademusSreg | I was horrified, but didn't investigate further. |
| 06:32.37 | grim001 | how do I go about creating a library anyway |
| 06:34.25 | JademusSreg | I haven't done it since beta, I don't recall. |
| 06:36.18 | grim001 | they don't make it easy, I spent a few minutes looking the other day |
| 06:38.31 | grim001 | OK, I hit NewLibrary, but nothing seemingly happens |
| 06:38.37 | grim001 | New Library |
| 06:41.19 | Vexal | why can't i change the scale or tint of a squib? |
| 06:48.09 | grim001 | Well, the first thing I notice about using libraries is... it's SLOW AS HELL |
| 06:48.17 | MrOp | deathknight |
| 06:48.44 | grim001 | the Built-In and Liberty libraries are pretty huge and cause the thing to delay for 0.5 seconds each time you want to perform an action, and I don't believe you can remove them... |
| 06:54.22 | grim001 | did blizzard ever consider that I might not want 2000 of their own library elements lagging out my editor? |
| 06:54.56 | JademusSreg | I expect not. |
| 06:59.25 | LordAbyss | slaps Sixen |
| 07:00.45 | grim001 | OK, libraries are useless as well anyway, you would have to re-import them every time you make a change, you can only edit them inside the editor unless you want to deal with a mishmash of galaxy and XML |
| 07:01.02 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 07:01.08 | grim001 | and if you try to use them, they will simply lag your editor badly |
| 07:01.26 | JademusSreg | More useless than even I suspect. |
| 07:01.57 | grim001 | I can't see a single advantage of using libraries over just copy-and-pasting in custom script code to each map |
| 07:02.32 | grim001 | I guess you could reduce the size of your map file to get around size limits if you had a ton of code |
| 07:02.50 | grim001 | then you might as well export all the code in your map as a library... |
| 07:04.28 | grim001 | and if you had several maps that shared the same code, you could even save a few more byes of space |
| 07:05.01 | grim001 | I guess they had GUI in mind with libraries, all of Blizzard's library stuff is in GUI |
| 07:05.13 | grim001 | and it's no so easy to copy and paste in someone else's GUI trigger off a webpage |
| 07:05.16 | grim001 | *not |
| 07:07.00 | JademusSreg | You should look at the NativeLib.galaxy. Some lame wrapper functions in there. |
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| 07:07.13 | Bounty | >< |
| 07:07.25 | grim001 | it's just the new incarnation of BJ functions |
| 07:07.42 | Bounty | You there Vexal? |
| 07:08.16 | JademusSreg | BJ functions had names there were trivial to type. |
| 07:08.26 | Bounty | Hey Jade |
| 07:08.36 | JademusSreg | NativeLib and LibertyLib are autogenerated. |
| 07:08.43 | JademusSreg | Hi Bounty. |
| 07:08.45 | Bounty | Do you think i should make a PvP map using the Iconic Bosses combat system |
| 07:08.57 | grim001 | I find myself having to make wrapper functions just to make a lot of natives tolerable to use |
| 07:09.02 | JademusSreg | Yes, Bounty, I do. |
| 07:09.03 | grim001 | such as CreateUnit |
| 07:09.09 | Bounty | bc i could make it in like... |
| 07:09.10 | Bounty | 2 days lol |
| 07:09.19 | Bounty | I was thinking |
| 07:09.21 | JademusSreg | I understand, grim. |
| 07:09.26 | Bounty | Iconic Arena =P |
| 07:09.31 | grim001 | return UnitGroupUnit(UnitCreate(1, unittype, 0, player, Point(x, y), facing), 1) |
| 07:09.31 | Bounty | where you play as the sc2 famous chrs |
| 07:11.20 | JademusSreg | I was talking about the exact same thing earlier today, grim. |
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| 07:12.07 | JademusSreg | Bounty, worth a try. =) |
| 07:12.17 | Bounty | sound like something you would play? lol |
| 07:13.05 | JademusSreg | If it's crunchy and slick, yep, I'd play it at least once. |
| 07:15.17 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:15.27 | Bounty | is there is a trigger action to clear an aquired target? |
| 07:15.34 | Bounty | acquired* |
| 07:15.45 | Dekar | stop? |
| 07:16.00 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:16.02 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 07:16.03 | Bounty | HERP DERP |
| 07:16.04 | Bounty | thx =P |
| 07:16.07 | Dekar | lol |
| 07:27.15 | Skittles | neat i crashed my game |
| 07:27.27 | Skittles | first time in a few years i've managed doing that with a trigger. =d |
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| 07:37.05 | Vexal | i can crash my game 100 times before breakfast. |
| 07:37.17 | Vexal | amateur. |
| 07:37.32 | Bounty | Hey vex you wanna see the new boss so far? |
| 07:38.52 | Vexal | when i get bored of making spells. |
| 07:38.58 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:39.04 | Bounty | oh gee thanks |
| 07:39.05 | Bounty | >< |
| 07:39.29 | Vexal | don't thank me. |
| 07:39.32 | Vexal | i didn't do anything. |
| 07:39.37 | Vexal | helpful, at least. |
| 07:39.55 | Bounty | i think i might ditch this project and make the PvP version lol |
| 07:40.02 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 07:40.10 | Bounty | bc nobody really gives a shit about this one |
| 07:40.24 | Bounty | and NO im not saying that bc of u not coming to see the new stuff Vex |
| 07:40.36 | JademusSreg | PvP is generally more enjoyable multilplayer than PvE. |
| 07:40.49 | Bounty | well i thought this would be enjoyable |
| 07:40.54 | Bounty | i think it is |
| 07:41.00 | JademusSreg | I still think it's neat. |
| 07:41.02 | Bounty | it takes ALOT more fucking effort to make this then if i make the pvp map lol |
| 07:41.08 | Bounty | bc i make pvp |
| 07:41.15 | Bounty | i dont gotta think up mechanics |
| 07:41.16 | Bounty | =P |
| 07:41.29 | Bounty | just give people abilities, an objective and thats it |
| 07:42.08 | Bounty | for example |
| 07:42.29 | Bounty | it took me about... 6-8 hours just to get one of the enemy units attacks to work properly |
| 07:42.40 | Bounty | i could have made the entire pvp map in that amount of time lol |
| 07:43.10 | Vexal | don't you have.. homework |
| 07:43.11 | Vexal | or something |
| 07:43.12 | Vexal | a job? |
| 07:43.15 | Bounty | nope |
| 07:43.21 | Vexal | nothing? |
| 07:43.23 | Vexal | what do you do? |
| 07:43.24 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 07:43.29 | Bounty | wife and kids thats about it |
| 07:43.35 | Vexal | that sucks. |
| 07:43.40 | Vexal | that's the part of life i'm least looking forward to. |
| 07:43.49 | Bounty | nah, i dont make any less money then when i worked lol |
| 07:43.54 | Bounty | until that runs out though |
| 07:43.56 | Bounty | then thats gonna suck |
| 07:43.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:44.03 | Vexal | did you graduate college |
| 07:44.08 | Bounty | nope |
| 07:44.13 | Vexal | did you attempt to |
| 07:44.17 | Bounty | nope |
| 07:44.18 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:44.25 | Vexal | how old are you |
| 07:44.29 | Bounty | 25 |
| 07:44.50 | Vexal | does your wife make the money for the family |
| 07:44.56 | Bounty | no i just told u lol |
| 07:45.00 | Bounty | i get unemployment |
| 07:45.03 | Vexal | oh. |
| 07:45.04 | Bounty | bc i was let go |
| 07:45.08 | Vexal | from where? |
| 07:45.15 | Bounty | I was a Retail Manager for 6 years |
| 07:45.25 | Bounty | its a East Coast company |
| 07:45.40 | Bounty | btw |
| 07:45.49 | Bounty | you would think having no work and getting paid would kick ass |
| 07:45.54 | Bounty | truth is its fun for about... 2 weeks? |
| 07:45.56 | Vexal | it sounds depressing. |
| 07:45.59 | Bounty | yeah |
| 07:46.00 | Bounty | its like |
| 07:46.08 | Bounty | a summer vacation that never ends |
| 07:46.12 | Bounty | which sounds good on paper |
| 07:46.13 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:46.15 | Vexal | i go out of my mind with boredom during spring break... i'd hate to go longer than a week without some sort of project |
| 07:46.22 | Bounty | why do u think i started mapping |
| 07:46.48 | Vexal | my mom started school again |
| 07:46.49 | Bounty | shouldnt be unemployed much longer though |
| 07:46.53 | Vexal | she's like 50 or 60 or some thing |
| 07:46.56 | Bounty | jobs are actually startin to pop up around here lol |
| 07:47.04 | Bounty | that sounds like that movie |
| 07:47.08 | Bounty | Patch Adams |
| 07:47.09 | Vexal | ghostbusters |
| 07:47.10 | Vexal | oh |
| 07:47.17 | Bounty | =P |
| 07:47.32 | Vexal | that movie was retarded |
| 07:47.35 | Vexal | why should a guy be able to be a doctor |
| 07:47.37 | Bounty | yeah |
| 07:47.39 | Vexal | if he can't pass medical school |
| 07:47.40 | Bounty | but im sayin |
| 07:47.44 | Bounty | he went to school when he was like 80 |
| 07:47.47 | Bounty | like ur mom |
| 07:47.51 | Vexal | she's 50 |
| 07:47.53 | Bounty | loll |
| 07:47.58 | Bounty | "like 80" |
| 07:48.02 | Bounty | =P |
| 07:48.06 | Vexal | that's not very much like 80. |
| 07:48.18 | Bounty | My mom is about 52 but acts like a 2 year old |
| 07:48.26 | Bounty | We dont trust her with the baby |
| 07:48.28 | Vexal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSGT6SSI0lA&feature=player_detailpage#t=198s |
| 07:48.28 | Bounty | lolol |
| 07:49.37 | Bounty | gotta love the brits |
| 07:49.44 | Bounty | you ever watch QI? best show ever =P |
| 07:50.35 | Vexal | nope. |
| 07:52.42 | Vexal | i regret not buying crackers when i had the chance. |
| 07:53.00 | Bounty | >< |
| 07:54.51 | Bounty | So i got an idea for the pvp map |
| 07:55.04 | Bounty | You get currency from winning matches and killing players |
| 07:55.11 | Bounty | and you buy new characters with that currency |
| 07:55.41 | JademusSreg | Sleep later. |
| 07:56.34 | Vexal | have you ever thought about making a map that was top down |
| 07:56.38 | Vexal | what happened to the map you showed me |
| 07:56.40 | Vexal | in the dungeon |
| 07:57.11 | Bounty | the dungeon? |
| 07:57.16 | Bounty | oh |
| 07:57.19 | Bounty | the Underworld map? |
| 07:57.23 | Vexal | yeah |
| 07:57.29 | Bounty | i could show u it right now if u want lol |
| 07:57.32 | Bounty | it still works |
| 07:57.46 | Vexal | i'm not in the mood. |
| 07:57.47 | Bounty | its alot diff then that video shows lol |
| 07:57.52 | Vexal | oh. |
| 07:58.04 | Bounty | content wise |
| 07:58.05 | Vexal | it just seems like you're fighting an uphill battle against what the sc2 engine is good at. |
| 07:58.15 | Bounty | nah |
| 07:58.21 | Bounty | its all possible |
| 07:58.37 | Bounty | the problem is that its a pain in the ass to catch and HOLD peoples attention |
| 07:58.44 | Bounty | and i usually just give up |
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| 08:13.49 | QueenGambit | rawr |
| 08:22.08 | QueenGambit | btb |
| 08:22.10 | QueenGambit | brb* |
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| 08:35.22 | Shawn|Rawr | jesus.. how the hell do i move an actor |
| 08:39.28 | Shawn|Rawr | oh god.. its giving me a syntax error and highlighting "}" ... wtf |
| 08:40.27 | Shawn|Rawr | nvm.. next time jade gives me a custom script, he needs to explain how to use it haha |
| 08:46.22 | grim001 | sleep time |
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| 08:52.04 | Sumo- | is there a trick to modifying lighting easily? |
| 08:52.16 | Sumo- | like can u preview the changes in the editor? |
| 08:52.21 | lefix | yes |
| 08:52.38 | lefix | have you tried "v"? :D |
| 08:52.43 | Sumo- | v? |
| 08:52.58 | lefix | toggles between editor and ingame view |
| 08:53.08 | Sumo- | my lighting is set in triggers |
| 08:53.17 | Sumo- | so i have like 4 types |
| 08:53.21 | lefix | hmm |
| 08:53.23 | Sumo- | how can i cycle between? |
| 08:53.41 | Sumo- | i see what u mean by the v |
| 08:53.41 | lefix | that sounds trickier |
| 08:53.43 | Sumo- | but yeh |
| 08:53.58 | Sumo- | lighting is so complicated |
| 08:54.06 | Sumo- | cant have to load game every change, shit |
| 08:55.38 | onetwo_WINNING | you can set the current maps light |
| 08:55.40 | onetwo_WINNING | to your custom light |
| 08:55.45 | onetwo_WINNING | by going into terrain texture sets |
| 08:55.52 | onetwo_WINNING | find the one that matches your maps texture set |
| 08:55.54 | onetwo_WINNING | eg belshir |
| 08:55.57 | onetwo_WINNING | then go to lighting field |
| 08:56.06 | onetwo_WINNING | can change from there |
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| 09:07.54 | Shawn|Rawr | is there a trick to making things work in your map when the trigger action refuses to work like its supposed to? |
| 09:07.58 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 09:09.10 | Vexal | do you have a lot of events going off |
| 09:09.55 | Shawn|Rawr | Nope. its initialization.. it tells me actor scope cannot be created and then the actor scope is created anyway |
| 09:09.59 | Shawn|Rawr | but the error is annoying |
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| 09:14.40 | MrOp | hi |
| 09:14.45 | MrOp | how was nascar shawn |
| 09:15.32 | Shawn|Rawr | apparently the guy that was wanting me to work it with him gave me the wrong time so i showed up an hour late and she sent us home.. again |
| 09:15.44 | MrOp | gay |
| 09:16.03 | MrOp | is there a trick to getting a sound emitter working |
| 09:16.04 | Shawn|Rawr | that goddman prick now screwed us out of 2 days of work and gas money to get there |
| 09:16.11 | MrOp | :/ |
| 09:16.12 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 09:16.15 | MrOp | sry |
| 09:16.18 | MrOp | to hear that |
| 09:16.23 | MrOp | :) |
| 09:16.25 | MrOp | :( |
| 09:16.45 | MrOp | are you going to be able to work tomarrow |
| 09:17.06 | Shawn|Rawr | Now.. why would an actor scope fail to create.. and then exist anyway.. |
| 09:17.17 | MrOp | shawn |
| 09:17.32 | MrOp | do i have to trigger a sound emitter |
| 09:17.41 | MrOp | i thought i could just place it and have it work |
| 09:17.48 | MrOp | not working fyi |
| 09:17.50 | MrOp | >< |
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| 09:18.13 | Shawn|Rawr | I have no idea |
| 09:18.29 | MrOp | thats poopie |
| 09:18.30 | MrOp | XD |
| 09:19.45 | MrOp | i couldnt seem to get actor scope to work for me either |
| 09:19.47 | MrOp | :/ |
| 09:20.25 | Shawn|Rawr | The actor scope is working.. its just not creating it |
| 09:20.48 | Shawn|Rawr | but when i dont have create actor scope.. the actor scope doesnt work.. |
| 09:20.56 | Shawn|Rawr | so the error is lying to me |
| 09:21.48 | MrOp | want me to send someone out to poop on it for you |
| 09:21.51 | MrOp | lol |
| 09:24.42 | MrOp | i guess your not in the mood for dumb humor my bad |
| 09:24.43 | MrOp | XD |
| 09:28.24 | Shawn|Rawr | well my gf is being a bitch, i got screwed out of work for the second day in a row, both my best friends got arrested (and released thank god), and now my actor scope is telling me it cant be created and then creating it anyway |
| 09:28.38 | Shawn|Rawr | nope, not a good mood |
| 09:29.47 | onetwo_WINNING | and the only real bitch among those poroblems is the actor scope |
| 09:30.41 | Shawn|Rawr | True that. If it just worked, I'd be fine |
| 09:31.57 | MrOp | sry to hear your day is not going to well |
| 09:32.38 | tordy | 8 bits |
| 09:32.39 | tordy | wasup |
| 09:33.30 | Shawn|Rawr | Even worse, there is 1 post about it on mapster, and bibendus gives a workaround which isnt what i need |
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| 09:39.55 | Shawn|Rawr | Speak of the devil.. Bibendus, did you ever work out how to create an actor scope without getting that error? |
| 09:40.13 | Bibendus | what error |
| 09:40.20 | Shawn|Rawr | Could Not Create Actor Scope |
| 09:40.27 | Bibendus | ah cuz u suck |
| 09:40.27 | Bibendus | :D |
| 09:40.31 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 09:40.34 | Shawn|Rawr | You are the only one on mapster that ever posted about it |
| 09:40.40 | Shawn|Rawr | And it's annoying |
| 09:40.41 | Bibendus | yep maybe i fixed it |
| 09:40.42 | Bibendus | lets see |
| 09:40.44 | Bibendus | my thread |
| 09:40.57 | Bibendus | oh ye |
| 09:40.59 | Bibendus | i think i solved |
| 09:41.07 | Bibendus | making a trigger that search for actors in an area |
| 09:41.16 | Shawn|Rawr | You found a workaround.. the problem is that it creates the actor scope, but still gives an error |
| 09:41.17 | Bibendus | and only actors i want because i flagged them with a special variable |
| 09:41.54 | Bibendus | with my workaround |
| 09:42.00 | Bibendus | i don't use actor scopes anymore! |
| 09:42.09 | Shawn|Rawr | Damnit.. >.> |
| 09:42.48 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm wondering why there is only 1 post about it on mapster.. apparently its not a popular feature |
| 09:43.59 | onetwo_WINNING | how do i make a unit only visible to the player that owns it |
| 09:44.13 | Shawn|Rawr | closk |
| 09:44.16 | Shawn|Rawr | cloak* |
| 09:44.29 | onetwo_WINNING | and i dont want allies who have shared vision |
| 09:44.29 | onetwo_WINNING | to see it |
| 09:44.31 | onetwo_WINNING | doable? |
| 09:44.37 | onetwo_WINNING | outside of text tags with background images |
| 09:44.46 | onetwo_WINNING | thats my backup |
| 09:46.59 | onetwo_WINNING | no Shawn? |
| 09:47.19 | Bibendus | shawn |
| 09:47.23 | Bibendus | i m the only extreme mapper |
| 09:47.24 | Bibendus | u know :P |
| 09:47.32 | Bibendus | btw |
| 09:47.33 | Shawn|Rawr | I havent seen someone do it successfully onetwo |
| 09:47.35 | Bibendus | can u use my solution? |
| 09:48.05 | Bibendus | onetwo |
| 09:48.07 | Bibendus | there is a flag |
| 09:48.12 | Bibendus | on the stealth behavior |
| 09:48.19 | onetwo_WINNING | in actor i just found this |
| 09:48.22 | onetwo_WINNING | FieldHelper Arrow Actor - FilterSelf |
| 09:48.24 | onetwo_WINNING | err |
| 09:48.27 | onetwo_WINNING | the field called Actor - filter |
| 09:48.30 | Bibendus | mmm u want it stealth |
| 09:48.31 | onetwo_WINNING | you can check off Self |
| 09:48.33 | Bibendus | or just hidden |
| 09:48.35 | onetwo_WINNING | hidden |
| 09:48.39 | onetwo_WINNING | for any player other than owner |
| 09:48.40 | Bibendus | oh k |
| 09:48.50 | Bibendus | i may give u a suggestion |
| 09:48.52 | onetwo_WINNING | ? |
| 09:49.01 | Bibendus | look for burrowed units |
| 09:49.13 | Bibendus | they leave a dust trail only for enemies |
| 09:49.50 | Bibendus | while player and allies see the burrow splat |
| 09:50.13 | Bibendus | btw shawn |
| 09:50.16 | Bibendus | coming back to us |
| 09:50.21 | Bibendus | what do u need to do with actor scopes? |
| 09:50.43 | Bibendus | shawn? |
| 09:50.52 | Shawn|Rawr | sry.. |
| 09:50.59 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm making a TBS system |
| 09:51.09 | Shawn|Rawr | The actors are created to show available move spots |
| 09:51.27 | Shawn|Rawr | Then i kill the scope once the player chooses a move location |
| 09:51.28 | Bibendus | so u want to delete them |
| 09:51.29 | Bibendus | in a specific area? |
| 09:51.57 | Shawn|Rawr | in the entire map |
| 09:52.04 | Shawn|Rawr | but just that specific actor type |
| 09:53.07 | Bibendus | ok |
| 09:53.14 | Bibendus | then my solution is perfect for u |
| 09:53.40 | Bibendus | you can set a specific variable to the actor |
| 09:53.50 | Bibendus | then delete all actors in the map with this flag! |
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| 09:54.29 | Shawn|Rawr | OR I could hide trigger errors because it works perfectly fine |
| 09:54.36 | onetwo_WINNING | hmm |
| 09:54.40 | onetwo_WINNING | seems to be cloak+buried |
| 09:54.42 | onetwo_WINNING | is the solution |
| 09:54.43 | onetwo_WINNING | ill see |
| 09:54.57 | Agouti | whats the problem? |
| 09:55.04 | onetwo_WINNING | unit only visible to one player |
| 09:55.06 | Bibendus | rly it works? |
| 09:55.07 | Bibendus | even with the error? |
| 09:55.13 | Bibendus | but why don't u want to use my solution? |
| 09:55.13 | Bibendus | :P |
| 09:55.19 | Shawn|Rawr | The error is a false flag |
| 09:55.20 | Bibendus | i use it on my dungeon keeper map |
| 09:55.23 | Agouti | can't you use actor terms? |
| 09:55.24 | Shawn|Rawr | It creates the actor scope |
| 09:55.25 | Agouti | or validators? |
| 09:55.32 | Bibendus | ye thats what i said |
| 09:55.36 | Bibendus | he doesnt want to :( |
| 09:55.41 | Agouti | why not :s |
| 09:55.42 | Bibendus | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/15754-send-actor-message-to-game-region-with-filters-on-specified/ |
| 09:55.50 | Shawn|Rawr | I just dont want to go back and redo all that work |
| 09:55.59 | Shawn|Rawr | especially since it works anyway |
| 09:56.04 | onetwo_WINNING | i have no idea wtf you guys are talking bout rofl |
| 09:56.08 | Agouti | how are you doing it now |
| 09:56.18 | Agouti | onetwo: custom cloaking actors I'm assuming |
| 09:56.24 | onetwo_WINNING | well im going to avoid it for now |
| 09:56.25 | Shawn|Rawr | actor scopes onetwo, keep up lol |
| 09:56.31 | Bibendus | onetwo we were talking about another thing |
| 09:56.32 | Bibendus | :D |
| 09:56.47 | Bibendus | ok |
| 09:56.50 | Agouti | I use cloaked + buried to suppress the default cloak actor |
| 09:56.52 | Bibendus | the cloak |
| 09:56.57 | Agouti | since it is immutable otherwise |
| 09:57.01 | Bibendus | is just the invisibility effect thing |
| 09:57.11 | Bibendus | buried + cloak stealths completely |
| 09:57.15 | Agouti | yes, cloaked + buried is the best way to do it |
| 09:57.19 | Agouti | it's how I did it |
| 09:57.28 | Agouti | then add your own actors and use Fade behaviours |
| 09:57.33 | Bibendus | his problem is to make it work only |
| 09:57.36 | Bibendus | for player |
| 09:57.38 | onetwo_WINNING | its for a neutral arrow |
| 09:57.39 | Bibendus | and not allies or enemies |
| 09:57.40 | onetwo_WINNING | for directions |
| 09:57.44 | Bibendus | but if you use a behavior |
| 09:57.45 | onetwo_WINNING | that i want when the player goes by |
| 09:57.47 | onetwo_WINNING | it hides |
| 09:57.49 | Agouti | not allies is more difficult |
| 09:57.52 | onetwo_WINNING | not to mention you can only see yours |
| 09:57.54 | Bibendus | maybe u can show it only to the player |
| 09:57.58 | Bibendus | nono |
| 09:58.00 | Bibendus | its not difficult |
| 09:58.01 | Bibendus | you have the |
| 09:58.04 | Agouti | If it was me, I would use an actor term validator |
| 09:58.07 | Bibendus | Player, Enemies, Ally, Neutral flag |
| 09:58.13 | Bibendus | u just remove allies and u are ok |
| 09:58.19 | onetwo_WINNING | well no biggie, ill work on it some other time |
| 09:58.25 | onetwo_WINNING | i cant really bug test unless i publish and play with others |
| 09:58.42 | onetwo_WINNING | thx for help though |
| 09:59.18 | Agouti | Bibendus: which flags are these? |
| 09:59.51 | Agouti | I thought actors only had only Status Bar flags of that sort |
| 09:59.56 | Agouti | which don't work properly anyway |
| 09:59.57 | onetwo_WINNING | actor - filter |
| 10:00.29 | Agouti | ah |
| 10:00.33 | Agouti | and if that is Null |
| 10:00.36 | Agouti | it defaults to All? |
| 10:00.54 | Agouti | or does ticking the boxes exclude those groups |
| 10:01.27 | Agouti | Still seems fairly limited compared with Validators |
| 10:01.58 | onetwo_WINNING | not sure |
| 10:02.21 | onetwo_WINNING | man the other issue is kill ranks... i made custom ones for my unit when you get a certain amount of kills |
| 10:02.26 | onetwo_WINNING | for some reason the one at 500 kills |
| 10:02.36 | onetwo_WINNING | is displaying the name from the one at 10,000 kills required |
| 10:02.39 | onetwo_WINNING | wonder if its a blizz bug |
| 10:03.01 | Bibendus | agouti |
| 10:03.03 | Bibendus | not in actor |
| 10:03.07 | Bibendus | but in behavior |
| 10:03.19 | Bibendus | then u can use the behavior to show an actor or another |
| 10:03.27 | Bibendus | blizz does it for burrow effects |
| 10:03.27 | Agouti | ah |
| 10:03.32 | Bibendus | i think |
| 10:03.47 | Agouti | that field is also in Actors |
| 10:04.01 | Agouti | does anyone know if the default cloak actor is at all accessible? |
| 10:04.07 | Agouti | or is it built into the models |
| 10:04.13 | Agouti | I've always thought the latter |
| 10:04.22 | Bibendus | dunno |
| 10:04.34 | Bibendus | i think its hardcoded |
| 10:08.34 | Shawn|Rawr | its just a flag i thought.. |
| 10:09.05 | Agouti | the actual animation for cloaking |
| 10:09.07 | Agouti | and the blur |
| 10:09.14 | Agouti | would still all be controlled by an actor |
| 10:09.17 | Agouti | I would of thought |
| 10:09.21 | Agouti | hardcoding it is bad |
| 10:09.36 | Shawn|Rawr | The blur can be removed |
| 10:09.46 | Agouti | oh? |
| 10:09.53 | Agouti | I use Buried to get rid of it |
| 10:09.55 | Shawn|Rawr | iirc yep |
| 10:10.01 | Agouti | but that suppresses the entire cloak actor |
| 10:10.05 | Agouti | not just the blur |
| 10:11.03 | Shawn|Rawr | Its times like these i need NWW so i can pound on my keyboard in frustration |
| 10:11.12 | Shawn|Rawr | >:D |
| 10:11.45 | Agouti | lulz |
| 10:12.03 | onetwo_WINNING | these are the limitations of playing in an engine |
| 10:12.05 | onetwo_WINNING | vs coding your own |
| 10:12.18 | onetwo_WINNING | and adding a field "visible for player" |
| 10:12.34 | Agouti | correction: limitation of playing in an engine where shortcuts were taken |
| 10:12.53 | Agouti | if they had of just coded the cloak actor properly inside the framework |
| 10:12.58 | Agouti | it wouldn't be an issue |
| 10:13.28 | Agouti | also can't seem to find the Text actor which controls displaying bounty's |
| 10:13.41 | Agouti | which is a bit annoying |
| 10:13.50 | Shawn|Rawr | isnt that kill resource display in the unit? |
| 10:13.53 | Shawn|Rawr | or something stupid? |
| 10:14.06 | Agouti | hmm |
| 10:14.16 | Agouti | the bounty aka kill resource is set on the unit |
| 10:14.26 | Agouti | but I didn't realise the actor controls was as well |
| 10:14.28 | Agouti | let me have a look |
| 10:14.58 | Shawn|Rawr | idk.. kill display might be it, might not be |
| 10:15.09 | Shawn|Rawr | otherwise you can always trigger your own |
| 10:15.17 | Agouti | maybe you are thinking of Kill Ranks? |
| 10:16.02 | Shawn|Rawr | kill display is right about kill resource and kill experience (if you have field type names turned off) |
| 10:16.07 | Shawn|Rawr | above* |
| 10:16.34 | Shawn|Rawr | thats not it actaully |
| 10:16.38 | Shawn|Rawr | nevermind |
| 10:21.47 | Shawn|Rawr | ok, i'm submitting a broken map with Create Actor Scope.. maybe that will get an answer |
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| 10:32.10 | Shawn|Rawr | brb |
| 10:34.35 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 11:04.10 | Shawn|Rawr | I feel so much better. Posted it on sc2 map forums, uploaded to mapster in broken maps category, and posted in the broken maps thread |
| 11:04.15 | Shawn|Rawr | What a good day |
| 11:10.59 | MrOp | :) |
| 11:11.08 | MrOp | i hope you get it asnwered |
| 11:11.16 | MrOp | that is a good question |
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| 11:16.44 | Shawn|Rawr | can someone scroll up and give me that link bibendus posted earlier? |
| 11:17.16 | Shawn|Rawr | nvm |
| 11:17.31 | MrOp | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/15754-send-actor-message-to-game-region-with-filters-on-specified/ |
| 11:20.29 | Shawn|Rawr | Now I remember why that trigger doesnt work! |
| 11:20.33 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 11:20.35 | MrOp | ? |
| 11:20.51 | Shawn|Rawr | In order to create my actors to begin with, I have to create an actor scope |
| 11:21.21 | Shawn|Rawr | Bibendus|AFK: It doesn't work unless you can tell me how to create the actors without an actor scope |
| 11:21.26 | Bibendus|AFK | ding |
| 11:21.26 | Bibendus | is no longer away : Gone for 1 hour 16 minutes 52 seconds |
| 11:21.33 | Shawn|Rawr | lol |
| 11:21.39 | Bibendus | why? |
| 11:21.42 | Bibendus | u can create actors on the ground |
| 11:21.51 | Bibendus | actor scopes are actually only actor groups |
| 11:21.57 | Shawn|Rawr | If I don't create an actor scope, the action doesnt create the actors |
| 11:22.02 | Shawn|Rawr | I dont know why |
| 11:22.07 | Bibendus | use the create actor trigger maybe |
| 11:22.07 | Bibendus | xD |
| 11:22.13 | Bibendus | or maybe its the actor type |
| 11:22.14 | Shawn|Rawr | That is what im using |
| 11:22.28 | Bibendus | i think u can use doodads or models |
| 11:22.30 | Bibendus | i m using models |
| 11:22.48 | Bibendus | the problem with doodads is that their spot sight doesnt work well |
| 11:22.53 | Shawn|Rawr | I was using active crystals |
| 11:23.03 | Bibendus | what actor type is active crystal? :O |
| 11:23.38 | Bibendus | i think u can't create |
| 11:23.40 | Bibendus | unit actors |
| 11:23.42 | Bibendus | without a unit |
| 11:24.19 | Shawn|Rawr | active crystals is a model |
| 11:24.50 | Shawn|Rawr | So in essence, I have no way of avoiding this error.. >.> |
| 11:28.19 | Shawn|Rawr | Doodads work.. :s |
| 11:28.34 | Shawn|Rawr | But they aren't being destroyed.. odd |
| 11:28.38 | MrOp | shawn is it possible to have two events in the same trigger |
| 11:28.43 | Shawn|Rawr | yes |
| 11:28.54 | MrOp | like unit enters and exits |
| 11:28.58 | MrOp | how do i get them in there |
| 11:29.00 | Shawn|Rawr | yup |
| 11:29.07 | Shawn|Rawr | just put them both in there |
| 11:29.14 | Shawn|Rawr | nothing special |
| 11:29.21 | MrOp | well if i want sound to turn on |
| 11:29.27 | MrOp | when i enter and off to leave |
| 11:29.32 | MrOp | then what |
| 11:29.33 | MrOp | oO |
| 11:30.40 | Shawn|Rawr | put the unit enters and unit leaves events |
| 11:30.59 | Shawn|Rawr | then have an if unit is in region condition to figure out which sound to play |
| 11:53.43 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
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| 11:57.31 | Shawn|Rawr | Skizot_IWON: Have you ever used actor scopes? |
| 11:57.54 | Skizot_IWON | what? |
| 11:58.05 | Shawn|Rawr | Actor Scopes lol |
| 11:58.16 | Shawn|Rawr | Like.. unit groups for actors |
| 12:01.35 | MrOp | what did you win skiz |
| 12:01.36 | Skizot_IWON | LIFE. |
| 12:01.36 | MrOp | hi |
| 12:01.41 | MrOp | nice |
| 12:01.54 | Skizot_IWON | charlie sheen is only in the PROCESS of winning. |
| 12:01.57 | Skizot_IWON | i won already. |
| 12:02.13 | MrOp | o |
| 12:02.27 | MrOp | lol |
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| 12:28.39 | Skizot_IWON | JManV |
| 12:28.41 | Skizot_IWON | you here? |
| 12:31.27 | Skizot_IWON | lol Shawn|Rawr |
| 12:31.35 | Skizot_IWON | i'm moderating your map XD |
| 12:32.45 | Shawn|Rawr | Really? What are you doing to it? |
| 12:32.49 | Shawn|Rawr | O.o |
| 12:35.50 | Skizot_IWON | testing it? |
| 12:35.58 | Shawn|Rawr | oh lol |
| 12:36.21 | Shawn|Rawr | as a note: even if you make a brand new map with just the Create Actor Scope action, it will still error |
| 12:36.40 | Shawn|Rawr | It's ridiculous, but as you can see the actor scope gets created anyway and I can Kill it |
| 12:37.04 | Shawn|Rawr | so it works, but errors no matter what |
| 12:37.27 | Skizot_IWON | have you tried creating the scope AFTER the actor? |
| 12:37.36 | Skizot_IWON | blizzard is dumb like that sometimes. |
| 12:37.48 | Shawn|Rawr | The actors don't get created unless i create the scope first |
| 12:37.50 | Skizot_IWON | have to MAKE the actor, then the scop then add the actor bastard to it. |
| 12:38.04 | Shawn|Rawr | There is no action "Add actor to Scope" |
| 12:38.08 | Shawn|Rawr | That i could find |
| 12:38.49 | Skizot_IWON | ummm |
| 12:39.00 | Skizot_IWON | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:39.21 | Skizot_IWON | i searched for scope in the action box :V |
| 12:39.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Try it. I would love this to not be a bug |
| 12:39.58 | Shawn|Rawr | I could move on and forget about it |
| 12:40.14 | Skizot_IWON | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:40.18 | Skizot_IWON | :V |
| 12:41.02 | Shawn|Rawr | And you didn't have to create the actor scope before you created the actor? |
| 12:42.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Right.. I still need to create the actor scope before the actor |
| 12:42.56 | Shawn|Rawr | Even using that action |
| 12:42.59 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 12:44.18 | Shawn|Rawr | point being.. that the shit errors no matter what |
| 12:44.38 | Shawn|Rawr | yet it works perfectly |
| 12:47.04 | Skizot_IWON | not exactly. |
| 12:47.08 | Skizot_IWON | i tried this. |
| 12:47.15 | Skizot_IWON | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:47.20 | Skizot_IWON | and got nothing. |
| 12:47.49 | Shawn|Rawr | Does halostart even work on active crystals? |
| 12:48.19 | Skizot_IWON | no it does not. |
| 12:48.25 | Skizot_IWON | but set tint does! |
| 12:48.33 | Skizot_IWON | so it looks like this IS a bug. |
| 12:48.34 | Skizot_IWON | :D |
| 12:48.38 | Shawn|Rawr | Thanks. |
| 12:48.39 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 12:48.46 | Shawn|Rawr | That's one step closer to a solution |
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| 12:49.39 | Shawn|Rawr | only other response I got was "Map->Map Options...-> Hide Trigger Errors" |
| 12:49.46 | Shawn|Rawr | Haha |
| 12:49.49 | Skizot_IWON | lol |
| 12:49.59 | Skizot_IWON | that WOULD be a temporary workaround. |
| 12:50.11 | Skizot_IWON | se we DO know the trigger is working. |
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| 12:50.19 | allenmelon | anyone wanna play sotis? |
| 12:50.21 | allenmelon | quick game |
| 12:50.23 | allenmelon | one spot left |
| 12:50.36 | Skizot_IWON | shit internet or i would love to. |
| 12:50.37 | Shawn|Rawr | Right. Like I said, it works perfectly.. It's the false error that I want taken care of |
| 12:51.13 | allenmelon | its new beta map |
| 12:51.20 | allenmelon | anyone wanna play? |
| 12:51.52 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm busy trying to create a huge deal about this bug I found |
| 12:52.04 | Shawn|Rawr | And I suck at dota, but that's besides the point |
| 12:54.20 | Skizot_IWON | did you make it? |
| 12:54.43 | Skizot_IWON | JManV |
| 12:56.45 | Shawn|Rawr | Me? |
| 12:56.52 | Shawn|Rawr | I posted that bug in 3 places now |
| 12:57.00 | Shawn|Rawr | >,< |
| 12:57.22 | Agouti | you bug posting slut |
| 12:57.31 | Agouti | post anywhere with a text box |
| 12:57.57 | Shawn|Rawr | That's the idea |
| 12:58.22 | Shawn|Rawr | Hope it gets in there before 1.3.0 |
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| 12:59.39 | Icebane | Heya guys! :D |
| 13:03.15 | Icebane | *the silence* |
| 13:06.13 | Shawn|Rawr | *more silence* |
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| 13:11.27 | airtonix | i'm so tempted Fisker |
| 13:11.33 | airtonix | to destroy you |
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| 14:06.43 | Tobin | Does anyone know how to change the in game minimap? (I want it to be all black but still show units squares) |
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| 14:07.40 | ekcolnovkol | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6jOshH5VMA&feature=player_embedded |
| 14:07.43 | ekcolnovkol | :u |
| 14:10.22 | Tobin | nice vid, but annoying music. |
| 14:24.11 | Shawn|Rawr | So.. this look bad or what? |
| 14:24.13 | Shawn|Rawr | http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8828/screenshot2011030606212.jpg |
| 14:24.26 | Shawn|Rawr | It's a TBS, in case you can't tell |
| 14:25.29 | Agouti | turn based strategy? |
| 14:25.40 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes |
| 14:25.43 | Agouti | it looks a little awkward |
| 14:25.48 | Agouti | if I must be honest |
| 14:25.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Awkward how? |
| 14:25.56 | Agouti | but hard to say without playing |
| 14:26.03 | Agouti | the squares as big as they are |
| 14:26.07 | Shawn|Rawr | If it's because it's tiny.. I'm working on it |
| 14:26.09 | Agouti | but I know nothing about it |
| 14:26.26 | Shawn|Rawr | The grid will get much larger once the system works |
| 14:26.35 | Agouti | I mean that the squares being so much bigger than the units themselves |
| 14:26.48 | Shawn|Rawr | Ya. I had to scale the units down a lot |
| 14:27.11 | Agouti | most of those sorts of games the units fill the squares pretty nicely |
| 14:27.22 | Agouti | having a little lone unit in the middle of a big square seems a little odd |
| 14:27.35 | Shawn|Rawr | It's because of the buildings tbh |
| 14:27.47 | Agouti | be like playing chess on a big board with skittles |
| 14:27.47 | Shawn|Rawr | I couldn't just set the unit on top of the building |
| 14:28.07 | Agouti | what I'm saying is can you make the squares smaller? |
| 14:28.21 | Agouti | like a quarter the size? |
| 14:28.35 | Shawn|Rawr | 9 / 4 .. uhh... no |
| 14:28.47 | Agouti | 9? |
| 14:28.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Each square is 9 cells |
| 14:29.04 | Agouti | than a third :-/ |
| 14:29.24 | Agouti | you don't have to divide the squares up wholely |
| 14:29.26 | Shawn|Rawr | Umm.. Hmm.. I don't want the units running over the buildings though |
| 14:29.35 | Agouti | it's not like the new squares have to fit neatly inside the old squares |
| 14:29.35 | Shawn|Rawr | That would look worse imo |
| 14:29.41 | Agouti | if the current squares are 3x3 |
| 14:29.46 | Agouti | new squares 2x2 |
| 14:30.19 | Shawn|Rawr | Then it would have the unit in the top right square.. and the building in teh bottom left |
| 14:31.00 | Agouti | that would be a solution |
| 14:31.09 | Agouti | another would be to give the unit a 2x2 footprint |
| 14:31.13 | Agouti | so it still sat in the middle |
| 14:31.54 | Agouti | or no footprint at all and just stick it where you want it |
| 14:32.13 | Agouti | units don't have to obey footprint constraints if you don't want them to |
| 14:32.37 | Agouti | again like I said I have very little information to go off of |
| 14:32.59 | Agouti | You could have it possible to have 9 units per square |
| 14:33.03 | Agouti | which would be fine |
| 14:35.55 | Shawn|Rawr | http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/7876/2x2grid.jpg |
| 14:37.39 | Shawn|Rawr | original: http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3179/terrain002h.jpg |
| 14:38.16 | Shawn|Rawr | Thoughts? |
| 14:38.41 | Hati | ?? |
| 14:38.49 | lefix | what am i looking at? |
| 14:38.57 | Shawn|Rawr | He said my TBS needs to have 2x2 squares rather than 3x3 |
| 14:38.59 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 14:39.15 | Agouti | well I said |
| 14:39.32 | Agouti | it looked awkward 1 1x1 unit in a 3x3 square |
| 14:39.38 | lefix | 2x2 looks better visually, but what is it good for? ^^ |
| 14:40.04 | Agouti | units might need to be scaled down just a tiny bit |
| 14:40.25 | Shawn|Rawr | goddamnit.. hahahaha |
| 14:40.25 | Hati | who said it? |
| 14:40.29 | Shawn|Rawr | Agouti |
| 14:40.35 | Agouti | lol |
| 14:40.43 | Agouti | sorry... |
| 14:41.01 | Agouti | or just ignore me |
| 14:41.04 | Agouti | like I said |
| 14:41.09 | Agouti | without actually playing it... |
| 14:41.25 | Shawn|Rawr | I wouldnt call it playable |
| 14:41.30 | Shawn|Rawr | You can move the units lol |
| 14:41.47 | Shawn|Rawr | Until they run out of moves and then they turn grey and dont move anymore |
| 14:42.23 | Shawn|Rawr | fuck it.. i'm makin a video |
| 14:42.42 | Agouti | I'm about to publish an dgo to bed... |
| 14:42.46 | Agouti | I think ignore what I said |
| 14:42.51 | Agouti | and make it work how you had it |
| 14:42.55 | Agouti | or somethign |
| 14:43.09 | Agouti | my reasoning was based on moving whole squares |
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| 14:43.17 | Agouti | if you can move the units around inside the squares... |
| 14:43.31 | Shawn|Rawr | they do move.. the movement system is basically complete |
| 14:43.47 | Agouti | that isn't what I said |
| 14:44.07 | Shawn|Rawr | What? |
| 14:44.23 | Agouti | can you move units around inside the squares |
| 14:44.25 | Agouti | e.g. |
| 14:44.37 | Shawn|Rawr | oh.. no they move in the 3x3 squares.. |
| 14:44.39 | Agouti | I choose to position this marine at the top middle 1x1 of the 3x3 |
| 14:44.58 | Agouti | ok then I stand by my 2x2 or bigger units statement ^_^ |
| 14:45.39 | Hati | ha har |
| 14:49.40 | Shawn|Rawr | Imma get some more opinions lol |
| 14:57.51 | Shawn|Rawr | hati: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei7Dug5A1RM |
| 14:57.54 | Shawn|Rawr | does that look horrible? |
| 14:57.56 | Shawn|Rawr | >.> |
| 14:58.17 | Hati | i don't get it |
| 14:58.29 | Shawn|Rawr | the movement is the only thing i have working |
| 14:58.40 | Hati | ah tbs |
| 14:58.42 | Hati | turn based |
| 14:58.57 | Shawn|Rawr | yes. I havent seen any in sc2 so im making a system for it |
| 14:59.05 | Shawn|Rawr | the square-grid kind anyway |
| 15:09.03 | Tobin | Does anyone know how to change the in game minimap? (I want it to be all black but still show units squares) |
| 15:10.41 | Shawn|Rawr | How many types of units do you have? |
| 15:13.47 | Shawn|Rawr | nevermind |
| 15:13.58 | Shawn|Rawr | You can hide it via triggers |
| 15:14.21 | Shawn|Rawr | tobin, is that what you need? |
| 15:15.15 | Tobin | Hmm, didn't know i could remove it through triggers... I'll take a look at em |
| 15:15.16 | Tobin | thanks |
| 15:15.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Show/Hide UI Frame iirc |
| 15:18.29 | Tobin | hmm i still want it to show units on there though |
| 15:18.36 | Tobin | that completely removes everything |
| 15:18.56 | Shawn|Rawr | oh haha.. i misread your question |
| 15:18.58 | Shawn|Rawr | sry |
| 15:19.41 | Tobin | No biggy, its not something that needs to be done... just the terrain minimap looks crappy. |
| 15:20.03 | Tobin | because almost all the terrain consist of doodads |
| 15:21.15 | Shawn|Rawr | Your best bet is something in the Game UI Data type in the data editor |
| 15:21.32 | Shawn|Rawr | Go to Default SC2 UI Settings and there is a minimap+ field you can edit |
| 15:22.21 | Shawn|Rawr | other than that, i really don't know |
| 15:23.00 | Shawn|Rawr | aside from maybe removing the doodads from the minimap, if thats what you want |
| 15:24.54 | Tobin | Hmm, not seeing it |
| 15:26.22 | Shawn|Rawr | Which part? |
| 15:26.50 | Tobin | the minimap field i can edit |
| 15:29.13 | Tobin | i went to Data -> Game UI Data -> Default SC2 Settings -> *Search 'minimap' |
| 15:29.23 | Shawn|Rawr | http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/1193/minwh.jpg |
| 15:29.26 | Shawn|Rawr | :) |
| 15:29.32 | Shawn|Rawr | i like pictures |
| 15:30.04 | Shawn|Rawr | that search box is stupid and unnecessary imo |
| 15:30.35 | Tobin | I think i just like it because i use table view.. |
| 15:31.05 | Tobin | still i'm at that place, but what should i change? |
| 15:34.45 | Tobin | Ahh nvm, messing around figured it out. |
| 15:34.56 | Tobin | Thanks for the help shawn. |
| 15:34.57 | Shawn|Rawr | Really? I was still confused haha |
| 15:35.02 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 15:35.21 | Tobin | Yeah i changed the minimap border to 1000 and made it black... exactly what i wanted. |
| 15:35.58 | Shawn|Rawr | Awesome. |
| 15:36.14 | Shawn|Rawr | I had no idea what I was doing, but i'm glad you found it |
| 15:38.36 | Tobin | So what kind of tbs are you making? |
| 15:41.00 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm just trying to get a basic square-grid system along with unit factories, building capturing, attacking, and other thnings |
| 15:41.13 | Shawn|Rawr | What I do with it once it's all set up is completely up in the air |
| 15:41.28 | Shawn|Rawr | I could just create the system and hope it gets used by someone else.. idk yet |
| 15:42.47 | Shawn|Rawr | Intersting enough.. i managed to re-break the building capturing |
| 15:43.08 | Tobin | Yeah i'm sure someone could definitely use the turn based movement at least. |
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| 15:45.01 | Shawn|Rawr | Well I said before that I haven't seen a TBS game in sc2 yet |
| 15:45.11 | Shawn|Rawr | Might as well have a hand in pushing the genre |
| 15:45.34 | Tobin | Yeah, i personally like tbs better than rts |
| 15:46.47 | Tobin | I'd love to see a good tbs map, i even have a few ideas myself. |
| 15:47.09 | Shawn|Rawr | I like it because its a lot more relaxed. No need to worry about apm so much |
| 15:47.41 | Shawn|Rawr | and you think more about strategy |
| 15:48.02 | Tobin | yup |
| 15:48.26 | lefix | whats tbs? |
| 15:48.31 | Tobin | turn based strategy |
| 15:48.44 | Tobin | i.e. chess |
| 15:49.04 | lefix | ahh |
| 15:49.08 | lefix | like homm? |
| 15:49.18 | Tobin | never heard of it.. |
| 15:49.36 | lefix | heroes of might & magic |
| 15:50.03 | lefix | they really should make a new one |
| 15:54.03 | Shawn|Rawr | is homm hexagon-grid? |
| 15:55.55 | Tobin | What do you guys think of my TD terrain? http://img198.imageshack.us/f/31783595.png/ |
| 15:56.24 | Shawn|Rawr | mazing that would be interestin |
| 15:57.12 | Shawn|Rawr | but damn the terrain is pretty |
| 15:57.39 | Tobin | Thanks, it took a long time fixing all the vines and rocks up the correct way |
| 15:57.56 | Tobin | +theres another camera with a 180* view |
| 15:58.15 | Tobin | so both sides are decorated... You think it'll cause lag problems? |
| 15:59.12 | Shawn|Rawr | how many enemies per wave? |
| 15:59.27 | Tobin | its a 2v2 with wintermaul style spawning |
| 15:59.48 | Shawn|Rawr | Scaled or Unscaled income? |
| 16:00.11 | Shawn|Rawr | I hope i'm thinking of the right map lol |
| 16:00.20 | Tobin | umm |
| 16:01.07 | Tobin | havent decided on income but have been thinking of a system that rewards players for saving up money (if they can without losing) |
| 16:01.16 | Shawn|Rawr | Right. Interest |
| 16:01.26 | Shawn|Rawr | It used to be really popular in td's |
| 16:01.32 | Dekar | 0 |
| 16:01.38 | Shawn|Rawr | or at least something along those lines.. |
| 16:01.52 | Tobin | Wow i cant believe i forgot interest... i was thinking much wackier ideas.... |
| 16:02.17 | Shawn|Rawr | interest is a basic incentive. like i said, it used to be used a lot |
| 16:02.22 | Shawn|Rawr | seems to be all but forgotten in sc2 |
| 16:02.39 | Tobin | I've seen a couple of maps with it... but not many tds |
| 16:02.51 | Shawn|Rawr | I know of one. Don't know the name of it though |
| 16:03.08 | Tobin | something like Standard TD i think |
| 16:05.36 | Shawn|Rawr | blah.. its so hard to decide what to work on next |
| 16:07.09 | Tobin | I know what you mean... thats why i'm procrastinating in here... haha |
| 16:08.23 | Shawn|Rawr | Hehe.. I'm not doing that, I just don't know what order everything needs to be implemented. I don't want to run into a snag and have to stop one thing to do another |
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| 16:18.03 | Cheekything | this is maddness :/ |
| 16:18.33 | Icebane | JManV: You there mate? |
| 16:18.34 | Cheekything | i cant kill this actor in a trigger but ever other trigger i can |
| 16:18.46 | Dekar | i dont remember saying 0 :( |
| 16:18.59 | Cheekything | and yes the trigger is working |
| 16:19.32 | Tobin | try copy pasting it from another one of the other triggers... |
| 16:19.36 | Tobin | (just a thought) |
| 16:19.43 | Cheekything | i have |
| 16:21.20 | Cheekything | this is so weird |
| 16:22.15 | Tobin | What do you mean by you cant kill the actor? |
| 16:22.35 | Cheekything | I want to create a doodad |
| 16:22.49 | Cheekything | which i then later destory |
| 16:23.16 | Shawn|Rawr | Create an actor scope, create the actor where you want it, kill actor scope |
| 16:23.30 | Shawn|Rawr | Well.. maybe |
| 16:23.48 | Tobin | Wait are you trying to kill the actor or the doodad? |
| 16:23.59 | Cheekything | the same |
| 16:24.15 | Cheekything | i thought doodads were actors |
| 16:24.20 | Tobin | nope |
| 16:24.46 | Tobin | if you go to kill doodad it plays that doodads death animation |
| 16:24.56 | Shawn|Rawr | True true |
| 16:24.58 | Tobin | (not sure what it does if the doodad doesnt have one) |
| 16:25.21 | Shawn|Rawr | I have to create actors to show available move spots for my units |
| 16:25.27 | Shawn|Rawr | then i KILL THEM |
| 16:26.33 | Cheekything | still confusing |
| 16:28.11 | Tobin | I don't know much about this aside from when i first started and wanted to try to create a random map from trees and rocks doodads. But keep in mind if a doodad dies, it leaves its footprint. |
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| 16:29.08 | Tobin | what are you using the actor for? |
| 16:29.32 | Cheekything | it's just a portal effect |
| 16:29.42 | Cheekything | I want it to die after 60 seconds |
| 16:30.25 | Cheekything | it'll die in the 30 second timer |
| 16:30.29 | Tobin | are you using a doodad, or did you use a trigger to create an actor? |
| 16:30.37 | Cheekything | create an acotr |
| 16:30.39 | Cheekything | actor* |
| 16:31.02 | Cheekything | and as i was saying it works fine for 1 trigger or any other trigger but not the one i want it to work for :/ |
| 16:37.16 | Cheekything | is there a way to resize a doodad / model or move it via triggers? |
| 16:38.10 | Shawn|Rawr | actor messages probably. Problem would be the footprint imo |
| 16:38.49 | Cheekything | why would the footprint be the problem? |
| 16:39.36 | Cheekything | ok changing the height worked |
| 16:39.44 | Tobin | actors dont leave footprints right? |
| 16:40.24 | Cheekything | i dont think so |
| 16:40.28 | Cheekything | unless they have one |
| 16:40.30 | Hati | nope |
| 16:41.00 | Hati | do you mean footprints or the structure collision thingie ? |
| 16:42.35 | Cheekything | i dont think it has one at all |
| 16:43.16 | Tobin | What i meant to ask (I'm tired~) is Do actors have any types of collision?* |
| 16:43.24 | Shawn|Rawr | no |
| 16:43.33 | Cheekything | nope |
| 16:43.43 | Tobin | Alright, just checking.. thats what i thought. |
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| 16:45.13 | Demo | Does anyone know why increasing the range of the ghosts emp ability does nothing, but decreasing actually decreases it? |
| 16:45.58 | Cheekything | can you use it in fog? |
| 16:46.03 | Cheekything | or unseen areas? |
| 16:46.32 | Demo | hmm I'll remove target vision |
| 16:46.35 | Demo | see if that does it |
| 16:47.26 | Demo | that did it |
| 16:47.31 | Demo | thank you for making me look there :) |
| 16:47.44 | Cheekything | tis o i had a simular problem |
| 16:47.53 | Demo | the reason that didn't occur to me was that I can see the entire map |
| 16:47.55 | Demo | t |
| 16:48.00 | Demo | the unit using the command cannot |
| 16:49.59 | Cheekything | can we use the sound sets from wc3 in Sc2? |
| 16:50.25 | Tobin | i'm pretty sure you can use anything from other blizz games since they own the rights |
| 16:50.37 | Cheekything | i mean can i directly import :P |
| 16:50.44 | Cheekything | or do i have to fiddle |
| 16:51.13 | Tobin | oh, not sure... i remember seeing what file type sounds had to be somewhere, just can't remember what it was. |
| 16:52.06 | Shawn|Rawr | just use ogg i think |
| 16:52.56 | Shawn|Rawr | they dont HAVE to be ogg.. could be mp3 evem |
| 16:52.59 | Shawn|Rawr | even* |
| 16:53.19 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 16:54.17 | Shawn|Rawr | Neat. I found abug |
| 16:54.39 | JademusSreg | Ooo, do tell. |
| 16:54.53 | Shawn|Rawr | Create Actor Scope works, but gives you an error no matter what |
| 16:55.07 | JademusSreg | I love bug catching. I'm a damn entomologist. =D |
| 16:55.41 | JademusSreg | Strange. |
| 16:55.57 | Shawn|Rawr | So.. I posted it in 3 diff places hoping to find an answer.. I can't believe no one caught this before.. >.> |
| 16:56.20 | JademusSreg | Can you show me your trigger so I know what's up? |
| 16:56.23 | Shawn|Rawr | Skizot even argued it with me for 15 minutes |
| 16:56.48 | Shawn|Rawr | You want the test map I made? |
| 16:56.53 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 16:57.05 | Shawn|Rawr | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/13/963/createactorscopebug.SC2Map |
| 16:57.22 | JademusSreg | opens. |
| 16:57.41 | Tobin | * Accidentally downloads.... |
| 16:57.58 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 16:58.00 | Shawn|Rawr | the best answer I got all night was "Just use hide trigger errors in map options" |
| 16:58.13 | Tobin | lol |
| 16:58.41 | Shawn|Rawr | btw Jade, your code is in there. I hope you don't mind |
| 16:58.45 | JademusSreg | Melee Initialization function "could not create actor scope" |
| 16:59.01 | Shawn|Rawr | Right.. but it DOES create the actor scope |
| 16:59.05 | JademusSreg | Well, I think Melee Initialization isn't trying hard enough! |
| 16:59.25 | JademusSreg | So it creates it, and it works, but it always returns an error? |
| 16:59.29 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes |
| 16:59.45 | Shawn|Rawr | A completely false error |
| 16:59.55 | JademusSreg | And I don't mind about my code, code is nothin. |
| 17:00.37 | Shawn|Rawr | No wonder people never use actor scopes.. it always errors |
| 17:00.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Luckily I made the entire system before i saw the error |
| 17:00.58 | Shawn|Rawr | Or else I'd be another victim |
| 17:03.18 | JademusSreg | I have a solution. |
| 17:03.38 | JademusSreg | You might find it hilarious. |
| 17:03.54 | JademusSreg | See that actor scope global? |
| 17:04.12 | JademusSreg | Initialize its value with the action to create an actor scope. |
| 17:06.16 | Shawn|Rawr | the only parameter in Create Actor Scope is Name |
| 17:06.21 | Shawn|Rawr | so idk what you mean |
| 17:06.34 | JademusSreg | If you initialize it from the variable declaration, rather than in a function, it will not return that error. |
| 17:07.13 | JademusSreg | It might be that the game returns an error if you create a scope after initialization. |
| 17:07.36 | JademusSreg | In my test, I have two variables, one gui, one galaxy, initializing before map initialization. |
| 17:07.44 | JademusSreg | Neither of them return errors. |
| 17:08.35 | Shawn|Rawr | How do you initialize before map initialization> |
| 17:08.37 | Shawn|Rawr | ? |
| 17:08.52 | JademusSreg | Since GUI variables are manually initialized in the Init_Globals generated function, I know it is not a problem with initializing actor scope variables from a function. |
| 17:08.58 | JademusSreg | Click on the variable. |
| 17:09.13 | JademusSreg | See the window that says Initial Value? |
| 17:09.46 | Shawn|Rawr | ok |
| 17:10.01 | Shawn|Rawr | what do i set it to? |
| 17:11.09 | JademusSreg | GUI is so silly. Hold on. |
| 17:11.35 | JademusSreg | ActorScopeCreate("This is the scope name") |
| 17:11.56 | Shawn|Rawr | Right. There is no option in GUI to set it to New Actor Scope |
| 17:12.00 | Shawn|Rawr | or whatever |
| 17:12.06 | JademusSreg | ActorScopeCreate("This is the scope name") |
| 17:12.25 | Shawn|Rawr | And I am putting this where? |
| 17:12.45 | JademusSreg | When you double click the value to set it, you have 4 options. |
| 17:12.55 | JademusSreg | Function, Preset, Variable, and Custom Script. |
| 17:12.59 | Shawn|Rawr | i already got it lol |
| 17:13.01 | Shawn|Rawr | sry |
| 17:13.05 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 17:13.10 | Shawn|Rawr | doesnt work though |
| 17:13.26 | JademusSreg | Works fine for me. |
| 17:13.31 | JademusSreg | What's the problem? |
| 17:13.40 | Shawn|Rawr | The actors arent being created |
| 17:15.02 | JademusSreg | Weird. |
| 17:16.53 | Shawn|Rawr | I'll send it to you. You can even play with my very slow progress |
| 17:17.23 | JademusSreg | Worked for me perfectly. |
| 17:18.29 | JademusSreg | In the test map I initialized your actor scope global, then disable two trigger actions. |
| 17:18.56 | JademusSreg | Actor - Create an Actor Scope with the name "Wakka wakka" |
| 17:18.56 | JademusSreg | Variable - Set ActorScope1 = (Last created actor scope) |
| 17:19.01 | JademusSreg | I disabled those. |
| 17:20.09 | JademusSreg | If you forget to disable/remove the set variable statement, it's passing a null value to the variable. |
| 17:20.28 | JademusSreg | Or passing the same value. |
| 17:20.43 | Shawn|Rawr | i disabled both |
| 17:20.45 | Shawn|Rawr | try it yourself |
| 17:20.46 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 17:20.52 | Shawn|Rawr | maybe you can give me some code tips |
| 17:21.03 | Shawn|Rawr | just dont share yet |
| 17:21.14 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 17:21.16 | Shawn|Rawr | and yes i know nested if statements are horrible |
| 17:21.20 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 17:22.14 | Shawn|Rawr | Also, tell me if you like the 3x3 grid or the 2x2 grid better |
| 17:22.24 | Shawn|Rawr | Some people were saying that the 3x3 looked bad |
| 17:22.45 | JademusSreg | 3x3 is an incredible waste unless you have huge units. |
| 17:23.08 | Shawn|Rawr | It's not that.. just test and look at it |
| 17:23.15 | Shawn|Rawr | I like 3x3 better |
| 17:23.28 | Shawn|Rawr | just for what i'm doing specifically |
| 17:23.59 | Shawn|Rawr | and yes, the grid is horribly too tiny to play on |
| 17:24.08 | Shawn|Rawr | its not meant to be played on yet |
| 17:24.58 | JademusSreg | You don't initialize the global variable from the declaration. |
| 17:25.19 | Shawn|Rawr | Right, I changed it back |
| 17:25.30 | Shawn|Rawr | Because it wasnt working and Im trying to work on other things |
| 17:25.35 | JademusSreg | And your "" actor scope name is possibly the same as passing null, since it's a null string. |
| 17:26.00 | Shawn|Rawr | Then change it. It seems to have no effect no matter what i name it |
| 17:26.08 | Shawn|Rawr | So I just said screw it |
| 17:26.12 | JademusSreg | You're probably right about that. =) |
| 17:26.41 | Shawn|Rawr | Ya. I never went to sleep since last time I talked to you. I had plenty of time to fuck with it |
| 17:30.22 | JademusSreg | Works for me, but gives the error too, because of actor scope creation. |
| 17:30.39 | JademusSreg | And 3x3 doesn't look so bad. |
| 17:31.04 | Shawn|Rawr | Goodie. I was just working on building capturing |
| 17:31.11 | Shawn|Rawr | Fun stuff |
| 17:32.01 | Tobin | 1 more thing i want to fix before i go to bed... |
| 17:32.09 | Shawn|Rawr | Breakfast? |
| 17:32.34 | Tobin | 2* things i want to fix before i got to bed... |
| 17:32.39 | JademusSreg | Well, I guess you have two options to prevent the silly, wrong errors. |
| 17:32.55 | Tobin | How do i fix footprint when scalling down units? |
| 17:33.07 | Shawn|Rawr | Units? |
| 17:33.11 | Shawn|Rawr | Set the radius |
| 17:33.18 | Shawn|Rawr | Buildings? Set the pathing footprint |
| 17:33.19 | Tobin | well models... |
| 17:33.25 | JademusSreg | One is to not kill the actor scope ever and kill each individual actor by sending them the destroy message. |
| 17:33.43 | Shawn|Rawr | Ya.. but that is silly to me |
| 17:33.45 | Tobin | I made the photon cannon small, but the shadow is still full sized. |
| 17:33.48 | JademusSreg | The other is to disable the option to have triggers errors displayed. =) |
| 17:34.07 | Shawn|Rawr | Tobin, did you scale the model or the actor? |
| 17:34.13 | Shawn|Rawr | Should probably do the actor one |
| 17:34.16 | Shawn|Rawr | imo |
| 17:34.38 | Tobin | i think i did the actor... ill double check though. |
| 17:34.51 | Shawn|Rawr | I always scale by actor and never have that problem.. |
| 17:34.54 | Shawn|Rawr | so idk |
| 17:35.09 | JademusSreg | Footprints are set in the actor for doodads, and units have their own footprint data values. |
| 17:35.58 | Tobin | photon canon splat? |
| 17:36.16 | JademusSreg | What about the splat? |
| 17:37.44 | Tobin | Nvm the splat, my bad... |
| 17:38.20 | Tobin | Maybe i'm not explaining it right... let me get a screen shot. |
| 17:39.21 | Shawn|Rawr | Jade, do you know what the action to set a unit to unselectable is? |
| 17:39.30 | Shawn|Rawr | I don't see it |
| 17:39.47 | Shawn|Rawr | nvm |
| 17:39.57 | JademusSreg | =) |
| 17:40.16 | Tobin | http://img707.imageshack.us/i/94326934.png/ |
| 17:40.47 | JademusSreg | Is Use Blob Shadow? on? |
| 17:41.27 | JademusSreg | Looks like an issue with shadow settings. |
| 17:42.28 | Tobin | photon canon is the only one thats doing it when scaled down.. |
| 17:44.44 | Tobin | Where is blob shadow at? i cant find it |
| 17:44.55 | JademusSreg | Well, does it define an event to create a splat in the actor events? |
| 17:47.06 | Shawn|Rawr | Should I just make right click like a back button? |
| 17:47.16 | Shawn|Rawr | I think so |
| 17:47.17 | JademusSreg | That would be cool. |
| 17:47.25 | Shawn|Rawr | :) |
| 17:47.40 | Tobin | hmm i fixed it... scaling down photon canon splat to same size as photon canon fixed it. |
| 17:48.28 | JademusSreg | Yup. Funny that it uses a splat at all. |
| 17:48.45 | Tobin | Thanks for the help guys. |
| 17:50.30 | Tobin | I'm off, peace guys. GL with your actor errors shawn. |
| 17:50.48 | Shawn|Rawr | It's a bug. I can't fix it |
| 17:50.50 | Shawn|Rawr | nit |
| 17:50.52 | Shawn|Rawr | nite* |
| 17:52.09 | Shawn|Rawr | is smart click the right click moving? |
| 17:52.31 | JademusSreg | Clarify? |
| 17:52.43 | JademusSreg | I mean, moving is a smart click action, yeah. |
| 17:52.46 | Shawn|Rawr | There is a list of command types. I'm trying to diable right-click moves |
| 17:52.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Awesome |
| 17:53.00 | Shawn|Rawr | One step closer to greatness |
| 17:53.29 | Hati | pew pew |
| 17:53.36 | JademusSreg | poo poo |
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| 17:57.56 | Shawn|Rawr | it works! |
| 17:58.12 | JademusSreg | Excellent. |
| 18:00.49 | Shawn|Rawr | I love being at the stage of being a mapper where I can just trigger it and know it will work |
| 18:01.03 | Shawn|Rawr | I used to be like @_@ everytime i made one |
| 18:01.11 | JademusSreg | It's like being a wizard. |
| 18:02.21 | Shawn|Rawr | Except your wizardry is much more impressive |
| 18:02.44 | Shawn|Rawr | even if they both can have the same result |
| 18:03.57 | Shawn|Rawr | this is the 4th time i've broken the building capturing >.> |
| 18:07.10 | Shawn|Rawr | 4th time i've fixed it now |
| 18:07.17 | Shawn|Rawr | hopefully the last |
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| 18:18.32 | Vail | long time no see Mapsters |
| 18:20.17 | Shawn|Rawr | 1.3.0 bring you back? |
| 18:20.56 | Vail | i am in some tough classes this semester and havent had that much SC2 time |
| 18:21.34 | Shawn|Rawr | Ah. Everyone just seems to be coming for the new patch lol |
| 18:21.38 | Vail | ontop of that my vista is blocking some programs from accessing the internet |
| 18:21.41 | Shawn|Rawr | coming back* |
| 18:23.28 | Vail | as near as i can tell some setting in vista is blocking some programs and its making me mad |
| 18:25.39 | wOlfLinG | So whats with the new Mapster mods? |
| 18:26.11 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
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| 18:31.00 | Shawn|Rawr | JademusSreg: I have actual turns now lol |
| 18:31.23 | Shawn|Rawr | Also, that's the fifth time I've had to fix the capture system |
| 18:33.48 | Shawn|Rawr | i'm having so much fun playing with it now |
| 18:33.52 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 18:37.09 | McBaneling | hey guys |
| 18:38.06 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 18:38.39 | JademusSreg | I save, test and retest like I've got OCD. Fun tests make it even worse. =D |
| 18:38.58 | McBaneling | =P |
| 18:39.02 | Shawn|Rawr | Haha.. I know. I just love that I've got it to a point where I can have fun with it |
| 18:39.18 | Shawn|Rawr | Doing the attacking might be a bitch, but this is awesome for now |
| 18:39.31 | McBaneling | quick question, |
| 18:39.42 | McBaneling | how would i get my ability to attack in a radius around me, |
| 18:39.52 | Shawn|Rawr | search area effect |
| 18:39.53 | JademusSreg | Shawn, did you go with individual actor clean up or turning off errors? |
| 18:40.06 | McBaneling | i thought i figured it out but it just circles me instead of a pulse from the unit in all directions |
| 18:40.14 | Shawn|Rawr | I'll prolly just turn it off |
| 18:40.16 | McBaneling | thanks shawn i'll look into it |
| 18:40.18 | Shawn|Rawr | I don't care enough |
| 18:40.22 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:41.23 | Shawn|Rawr | Was my code horribly unorganized and funky? |
| 18:41.39 | JademusSreg | It was unorganized a bit. |
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| 18:42.03 | JademusSreg | I'd suggest more use of folders, maybe comments. |
| 18:42.03 | Skittles | hi |
| 18:42.06 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 18:42.09 | Shawn|Rawr | Just a little? Interesting.. at this stage I'm normally super unorganizes |
| 18:42.19 | Shawn|Rawr | It's later that i folder everything and comment everything |
| 18:42.23 | Skittles | I have like 30 triggers atm |
| 18:42.26 | Skittles | 5 folders |
| 18:42.29 | Skittles | pshh 30 |
| 18:42.32 | Skittles | 40 or 50 |
| 18:42.34 | Shawn|Rawr | half the triggers i made are going to be deleted |
| 18:42.48 | Skittles | I put those in a WIP folder |
| 18:43.33 | Shawn|Rawr | I almost have a whole TBS system in < 10 triggers |
| 18:43.38 | Skittles | Each hero gets a folder, bosses get a folder, regular enemies get a folder, global systems get a folder, global variables get a folder, initials get a folder, and finally a WIP trash folder. |
| 18:43.53 | Skittles | so a bit more than 5 folders >.> |
| 18:44.09 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 18:44.23 | Shawn|Rawr | I think mine is more impressive |
| 18:44.28 | Shawn|Rawr | :p |
| 18:47.29 | Skittles | hmm? |
| 18:47.43 | Skittles | TBS? |
| 18:47.56 | Skittles | The Back Street? |
| 18:48.09 | Skittles | Oh! The Black Street |
| 18:48.11 | DonKalypso | Turner Broadcasting Station |
| 18:48.27 | Skittles | cant' say I know what that means. |
| 18:48.28 | Skittles | lol |
| 18:48.39 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka |
| 18:49.12 | Shawn|Rawr | apparently TBS really is dead |
| 18:49.25 | lefix | why |
| 18:49.40 | Shawn|Rawr | They have no idea what TBS means |
| 18:50.00 | Skittles | lol |
| 18:50.22 | DonKalypso | Turn Battle System? |
| 18:50.29 | lefix | the boondock saints |
| 18:50.29 | Skittles | oh |
| 18:50.36 | DonKalypso | Timed Boob Shots? |
| 18:50.45 | lefix | touched by skittles |
| 18:50.50 | DonKalypso | lol |
| 18:51.07 | Skittles | 12 triggers for that? I just need my hand. |
| 18:51.33 | Skittles | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:51.46 | Shawn|Rawr | 1. I said < 10 triggers |
| 18:51.49 | Skittles | ... he should platinum his name or w/e. He would make a ton of money. lol. |
| 18:51.55 | Shawn|Rawr | 2. TBS - Turn-based Strategy |
| 18:52.01 | Skittles | ews |
| 18:52.10 | Skittles | I'll stick with Tocuhed by skittles. |
| 18:52.38 | Shawn|Rawr | Well obviously one of those you do every hour.. and the other is a turn-based strategy |
| 18:55.13 | lefix | tbs is such a broad genre |
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| 18:56.43 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 18:56.56 | JademusSreg | I loved turn-based strategy when done well. |
| 18:57.56 | lefix | was commandos turn based? i dont remember |
| 19:01.50 | Shawn|Rawr | Ok. Now that I've successfully screwed up all of my dialog stuff. I need to nap |
| 19:01.56 | Shawn|Rawr | :) |
| 19:02.14 | Demo | does the "get angle" work yet in the editor? i.e. Comparing two unit angles? |
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| 19:04.16 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 19:04.24 | QueenGambit | onderours Turning |
| 19:05.05 | McBaneling | hey there gambit |
| 19:05.26 | JademusSreg | What is the issue Demo? |
| 19:06.03 | QueenGambit | hey bane |
| 19:07.31 | QueenGambit | I want to make a pirate sc2 game arr after listening to this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDzbA3bqguw&feature=player_detailpage#t=11s |
| 19:07.50 | Shawn|Rawr | If you figure out boats, let me know haha |
| 19:08.02 | Shawn|Rawr | Oh wait.. i'm napping.. |
| 19:08.07 | Shawn|Rawr | :) |
| 19:08.17 | Dekar | did someone said pirate? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jbq_1Wy70rE |
| 19:08.42 | McBaneling | got a questoin if for anyone that can help, I pretty much coppied the creep spawn from an overlord, how do i make it where that creep that its spawning, slows units down when they run in it |
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| 19:11.21 | QueenGambit | so you want to change the creep so that it slows units down when they run into it like its tar? |
| 19:11.25 | QueenGambit | hmm i dunno |
| 19:11.42 | Skittles | do u shift left click for the left attack in diablo? Or just torch light? |
| 19:11.54 | JademusSreg | I think that's torch light. |
| 19:12.29 | Skittles | I don't know anymore. lol. Torch light was a year or two ago. D2 was 8 or 9. |
| 19:12.39 | McBaneling | yea gambit, |
| 19:12.51 | Skittles | the creep itself? |
| 19:12.56 | McBaneling | yea, preferable |
| 19:12.57 | Skittles | or just the waterfall? |
| 19:13.13 | grim001 | so |
| 19:13.13 | Skittles | @.@ Is creep a overlords shit? |
| 19:13.21 | JademusSreg | Search effect, apply buff duration 0.10 longer than the search period, have the buff modify movement speed. |
| 19:13.21 | McBaneling | yea hah |
| 19:13.28 | McBaneling | oh, ok |
| 19:13.29 | Skittles | Anyway, dont you just add a -movement speed bonus? |
| 19:13.37 | grim001 | how many people from WC3C or TheHelper have actually moved to SC2 Galaxy scripting |
| 19:13.44 | JademusSreg | I have. |
| 19:13.46 | grim001 | I wonder how big the audience for code sharing is in the first place |
| 19:13.58 | Skittles | I did that. Minus the scripting. |
| 19:14.14 | Skittles | unless gui is counted. =D |
| 19:14.24 | JademusSreg | Yeah, apparently there are even people who previously scripted that are now ass deep in GUI. |
| 19:14.47 | Skittles | Gui doesn't have really any negative sides except math now, right? |
| 19:14.59 | JademusSreg | I can still do more in galaxy than in GUI. |
| 19:15.00 | grim001 | it has the negative side of being GUI |
| 19:15.09 | Skittles | like what? |
| 19:15.20 | JademusSreg | For instance, assign a value on the same line as a variable declaration. |
| 19:15.45 | JademusSreg | Instead of having a last created unit action in a trigger, haha. |
| 19:16.07 | Skittles | 0.0 |
| 19:16.08 | grim001 | sorry but you'll have to get used to scripting for a while before you look back and realize how bad it is to work with GUI |
| 19:16.27 | Skittles | I think you guys are crazy. =D |
| 19:16.45 | progammer | QueenGambit: who ask that ? use the modifer creep bonus for that |
| 19:16.48 | JademusSreg | What takes one line in galaxy, assigning a unit to a local variable, takes at least 3 in GUI. |
| 19:16.58 | progammer | though its global to that unit type |
| 19:17.03 | grim001 | it depends heavily on the complexity of what you are attempting to code |
| 19:17.21 | grim001 | in SC2, GUI may be fine for most users, but some people intend to code some very complex systems that would not be well represented in GUI |
| 19:17.50 | McBaneling | i did |
| 19:17.54 | grim001 | any large system in GUI inevitably turns into a horrible mess |
| 19:17.56 | McBaneling | gambit |
| 19:18.19 | progammer | McBaneling: in the unit data field |
| 19:18.25 | progammer | use the one for creep speed bonus |
| 19:18.29 | progammer | try negative value |
| 19:19.59 | JademusSreg | programmer, while that would work, it requires all units that it can affect to have that value set. |
| 19:20.18 | McBaneling | sorry im new but trying to learn; would that be under the ability itself? i copied the spawn creep from an overlord, hoping that hte creep it spawns slows any unit that touches creep |
| 19:20.32 | JademusSreg | Using a periodic search effect to apply a speed penalty buff would only need a player or unit set exceptions. |
| 19:20.44 | JademusSreg | It is more efficient. |
| 19:21.23 | McBaneling | hmm k thanks, i'll see if i can find it |
| 19:22.14 | Icebane | Guys I need a futuristic name for "Spellbook" anyone have an idea? |
| 19:22.21 | JademusSreg | Cyberdeck |
| 19:22.38 | JademusSreg | In the vein of William Gibson. |
| 19:22.58 | grim001 | wow this razer lycosa keyboard is totally defective, gonna have to return it soon |
| 19:23.03 | JademusSreg | Might also be called that in Shadowrun. |
| 19:23.03 | progammer | McBaneling: not the ability, on the unit that will be slowed |
| 19:23.09 | JademusSreg | My memory is fuzzy. |
| 19:23.11 | progammer | but its global for all creep |
| 19:23.13 | Dekar | chantfolder! |
| 19:23.22 | grim001 | I just lost the ability to type there for a minute |
| 19:23.27 | progammer | if you want it to be overlod spawn only then periodic search work better |
| 19:23.29 | Icebane | "MyDocuments" |
| 19:23.33 | Icebane | xD |
| 19:23.37 | grim001 | jademus, have you created any systems that are suitably generic for sharing? |
| 19:24.08 | JademusSreg | Not yet. I'm developing a wasd system that already outperforms current systems, but it isn't ready for release. |
| 19:24.23 | grim001 | is it still based on giving units orders? |
| 19:24.30 | Skittles | How do I respond to a video on youtube? |
| 19:24.44 | grim001 | skittles... you need to be logged in? |
| 19:24.50 | Skittles | I am.. |
| 19:25.21 | Cheekything | Anyone know where the alert for "need more minerals" |
| 19:26.15 | JademusSreg | Yes, I prefer it, but that's just a kind of implementation; the core is optimal. If I only I could do callbacks without creating new threads, I'd have have the main loop as part of the core, and just call functions registered in a kind of event queue. |
| 19:26.44 | JademusSreg | It doesn't necessarily need to be done using orders. |
| 19:27.10 | grim001 | regardless of performance, isn't it going to pretty much be equally responsive as any other WASD system that is based on events/orders? |
| 19:27.54 | JademusSreg | I'll show you what I have. Script or map? |
| 19:28.04 | Skittles | ha found out how |
| 19:28.06 | Skittles | u make a comment |
| 19:28.10 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 19:28.22 | grim001 | map would be better |
| 19:28.56 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/UDLR.SC2Map |
| 19:29.33 | JademusSreg | As you can tell by the script, the implementation isn't nearly generalizable enough yet. |
| 19:29.49 | JademusSreg | But I want to make sure I get everything working in my prototype before I extend it. |
| 19:30.58 | Skittles | subscriber #4! |
| 19:30.59 | Skittles | lol |
| 19:34.00 | grim001 | so you're using the implementation I would have guessed, seems like that's pretty much the only way to do it as far as being order-based goes |
| 19:34.14 | grim001 | you obviously need to use events to detect keypresses/releases which will cause a certain amount of delay |
| 19:34.54 | grim001 | WC3's order system was very laggy and unresponsive at times though, if SC2's is similar then the best area to improve would be to not use orders |
| 19:35.10 | grim001 | but that would entail quite a bit more work to make it look good |
| 19:35.16 | JademusSreg | I know. |
| 19:35.50 | JademusSreg | I'm not terribly interested in the alternative at this time. |
| 19:35.55 | grim001 | they did say they tried to make WASD type movement feel more responsive |
| 19:36.00 | grim001 | in some patch |
| 19:36.06 | grim001 | I don't know if they already implemented that fix |
| 19:36.17 | JademusSreg | Yes, as responsive as button input or some such, they said. |
| 19:37.02 | grim001 | I wonder if they are allowing some limited client-side desync to make it "feel" more responsive |
| 19:37.08 | grim001 | i dunno what else they could do |
| 19:37.33 | grim001 | or maybe they altered the netcode for events |
| 19:37.48 | JademusSreg | I lean toward the latter. |
| 19:38.05 | grim001 | yeah, I don't think the former is really feasible |
| 19:38.49 | grim001 | I know that for WC3, there was some fixed time interval where it shared data to each client in the game |
| 19:39.02 | grim001 | which meant there was a certain minimum lag |
| 19:39.19 | grim001 | maybe they've just removed that delay for certain events |
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| 19:41.24 | poiuy_qwert | is battlenet down? |
| 19:42.14 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 19:42.19 | JademusSreg | I don't go there often. |
| 19:43.37 | Skittles | hmm |
| 19:43.46 | Skittles | Why does everybody seem to like my seven sided strike best? |
| 19:43.59 | Skittles | Cause it was the only skill that did an instant kill? |
| 19:44.00 | Skittles | lol |
| 19:45.27 | QueenGambit | bnet still up |
| 19:45.42 | Skittles | no |
| 19:45.55 | QueenGambit | my map got 39 minutes played! |
| 19:45.58 | QueenGambit | take that! |
| 19:46.02 | Skittles | lol |
| 19:46.08 | Skittles | okay, give it to me. |
| 19:46.17 | Skittles | The minutes, not the map! |
| 19:46.18 | QueenGambit | brb lunch |
| 19:46.22 | Skittles | kk |
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| 19:48.30 | Cheekything | so anyone know where the sound alerts for resources come from? |
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| 20:03.25 | prodiG | does anyone know how the XelNagaTowerRange (Unamed) actor works? |
| 20:03.32 | prodiG | i'm trying to attach it to another unit but it won't cooperate |
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| 20:12.27 | prodiG | gah wtf nmow it doesn't have a model |
| 20:12.27 | prodiG | how do you attach a model to a unit? |
| 20:19.57 | Vexal | hello, everyone. |
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| 20:22.55 | JManV | hey queen |
| 20:23.21 | QueenGambit | To the cloud! |
| 20:23.46 | Vexal | those commercials are retarded. |
| 20:24.21 | JManV | there was a huge turnout for map night |
| 20:24.49 | QueenGambit | thats great, thanks for taking over jmanv |
| 20:24.52 | JManV | there were about 15 ppl in the channel most of the time |
| 20:25.09 | JManV | i need to post the VODs. it's been a busy weekend |
| 20:25.38 | QueenGambit | why don't u shut the f up vexal and leave me alone huh? |
| 20:25.45 | Vexal | what |
| 20:25.50 | Vexal | i was just making conversation. |
| 20:25.59 | QueenGambit | yah i wanted to c the video stream |
| 20:26.25 | JManV | well, i've got the streams, but i have highlighted them by game yet |
| 20:26.42 | JManV | i did get everything this week tho : |
| 20:27.21 | JManV | it'll be a day or two before sixen news anything besides onetwos game/tutorial anyways |
| 20:27.36 | QueenGambit | oh okay great |
| 20:27.48 | JManV | but ill post it on the thread when i highlight it all (prolly tomorrow) |
| 20:27.55 | JManV | you can watch the uncut streams if you want |
| 20:29.12 | QueenGambit | i'll just watch the edited highlight. Next week you should try to imitate huskystarcraft's commentary |
| 20:29.46 | JManV | heh |
| 20:30.02 | JManV | i should be off-the-wall, is that what you're saying? |
| 20:30.24 | JManV | we played star strikers (soccer game), and i couldn't help but break into sports commentary for a minute :P |
| 20:30.34 | QueenGambit | nice haha |
| 20:31.17 | QueenGambit | darn data, it takes like 20 minutes to add in 1 sound |
| 20:31.38 | QueenGambit | im making a piano map |
| 20:32.22 | JManV | yeah i noticed |
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| 20:32.30 | JManV | how many players does that support? |
| 20:33.04 | QueenGambit | I can make it be full house |
| 20:33.10 | tordy | =o |
| 20:33.25 | JManV | i was just wondering |
| 20:33.41 | JManV | it says 6 in the map list, but we tried to join with six and it didn't let us |
| 20:35.09 | JManV | wow. the stream did lag :( |
| 20:35.49 | JManV | ill have to look into that for next week |
| 20:35.57 | JManV | wonder if it was ventrilo or something else |
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| 20:36.17 | Jack[RCDF | Anyone here know anything much about sc2layout files? |
| 20:36.37 | JManV | search sc2mapster for "sc2layout helral" |
| 20:36.55 | JManV | he posted all of the layout files as well as a tutorial |
| 20:37.09 | JManV | you'll need those layout files |
| 20:37.43 | Skittles | hmm |
| 20:37.46 | JManV | they're pretty basic XML. there's a lot of trial-and-error involved |
| 20:37.53 | Skittles | it's on the top of the tutorial thread anyway |
| 20:38.11 | Jack[RCDF | Yeah I saw that |
| 20:38.20 | Jack[RCDF | Problem is I try stuff and sc2 crashes. :( |
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| 20:38.34 | Skittles | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQoIl_8I2TQ |
| 20:38.44 | Skittles | that's not for u jack btw. |
| 20:38.50 | JManV | that's the trial and error part :P |
| 20:38.51 | Skittles | Jmanv whatcha think about my map so far? |
| 20:38.54 | Jack[RCDF | I noticed :P |
| 20:38.58 | Jack[RCDF | JManV, yeah :P |
| 20:38.58 | Skittles | lol |
| 20:39.21 | JManV | there's some things that you think you should be able to do and you can't |
| 20:39.44 | Skittles | like easily changing the damne actors roll and pitch easily! |
| 20:41.05 | JManV | looks interesting skittles |
| 20:41.13 | JManV | jack: are you trying to make things invisible? |
| 20:41.19 | Skittles | Favortie skill out of all those was? |
| 20:41.40 | Jack[RCDF | ATM, trying to move the command card, make it 1 high and 5 across. |
| 20:41.44 | JManV | needs frost nova :P |
| 20:41.50 | Jack[RCDF | I think possibly you can't mmake it a different number of buttons? |
| 20:41.52 | Jack[RCDF | Hrmm. |
| 20:41.59 | JManV | yeah |
| 20:42.04 | JManV | has to be 15 |
| 20:42.05 | Jack[RCDF | That's lame. |
| 20:42.13 | JManV | you don't have to have buttons there |
| 20:42.18 | JManV | and if you hide the background |
| 20:42.24 | Jack[RCDF | Yeah, still annoying. |
| 20:42.37 | Sixen | @jmanv: I would like to put something up today :P |
| 20:42.49 | Skittles | sixen |
| 20:42.53 | Sixen | skittles |
| 20:42.56 | Skittles | you should put my video up. <3 |
| 20:43.00 | Sixen | which? >.> |
| 20:43.10 | Skittles | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQoIl_8I2TQ |
| 20:43.22 | Skittles | no one went to my project page when i bumped it. =( |
| 20:43.35 | Sixen | wut, I <3 d2 |
| 20:43.36 | Sixen | d3 |
| 20:43.41 | Skittles | yeah! |
| 20:43.50 | JManV | that attack at 4:30 is cool |
| 20:44.14 | Skittles | omg. |
| 20:44.24 | Skittles | Every single person has said that's the spell. |
| 20:44.25 | Skittles | lol |
| 20:44.51 | JManV | still needs frost nova :P |
| 20:45.03 | JManV | charged bolt was fun too :P |
| 20:45.03 | Skittles | I like the monks dash best tbh, though I forgot to put not only the barbarians dash spell, but also the monks! |
| 20:45.16 | Skittles | frost nova was in d2? |
| 20:45.18 | JManV | i played a lot of sorcered in D2 :P |
| 20:45.23 | Skittles | Idk, i'm making the wizard spells atm. |
| 20:45.24 | JManV | yeah, it was BA |
| 20:45.29 | Skittles | I've got 4ish made. |
| 20:45.39 | JManV | it was prolly actually a little OP |
| 20:45.48 | Skittles | http://www.diablowiki.net/images/thumb/0/01/Wiz-frost-nova1.jpg/600px-Wiz-frost-nova1.jpg |
| 20:45.52 | Skittles | d3 has it |
| 20:46.06 | Skittles | range is way smaller then in d2 |
| 20:46.12 | JManV | yeah |
| 20:46.19 | JManV | like i said, it was OP :P |
| 20:46.24 | Skittles | If I can find a damn model for that effect |
| 20:46.26 | JManV | huge nova + freeze :P |
| 20:46.31 | Skittles | I can make it in like 2 seconds. |
| 20:46.47 | JManV | there's a few nova effects aren't there? |
| 20:46.48 | Skittles | <-- this guys projectile system is basically finished. |
| 20:46.54 | Skittles | idk |
| 20:46.57 | JManV | maybe if you tinted one? |
| 20:47.04 | Skittles | tinting is evil. |
| 20:47.10 | JManV | there should be. i know there's the artifact nova |
| 20:47.16 | Skittles | all blues mixed with orange/yellow become green. =( |
| 20:47.23 | Skittles | BUT! Blue mixed with red doesn't become brown |
| 20:47.25 | Skittles | complete bs. |
| 20:47.34 | JManV | white models tint the best |
| 20:47.55 | Skittles | eh |
| 20:47.59 | Skittles | u need huge hue |
| 20:48.32 | Skittles | found an okay start for it |
| 20:48.52 | Skittles | okay, actually I think I know what I can use for the frost pellets too |
| 20:49.57 | tordy | wow ive been missing out this whole charlie sheen fiasco |
| 20:50.08 | tordy | winning omfg 60k views on ustream good lord |
| 20:50.09 | Skittles | lol |
| 20:50.11 | tordy | how does he do it |
| 20:50.20 | Skittles | 60k? |
| 20:50.21 | JManV | he's charlie sheen |
| 20:50.25 | tordy | yup |
| 20:50.26 | Skittles | I saw 111k at one point |
| 20:50.27 | JManV | he had 130k last night |
| 20:50.32 | Skittles | yeah |
| 20:50.44 | Jack[RCDF | rageqwit, sc2 crashed again |
| 20:50.50 | Skittles | lol |
| 20:50.54 | Jack[RCDF | blizzard has epic sux when it comes to UI editing. |
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| 20:51.01 | JManV | indeed |
| 20:51.04 | tordy | so anyway |
| 20:51.08 | Skittles | u betcha |
| 20:51.14 | JManV | i was thinking of starting a repository of pre-built UIs |
| 20:51.20 | tordy | that's a good idea |
| 20:51.27 | Jack[RCDF | I started a UI editor. |
| 20:51.32 | tordy | because this is so damn tedious |
| 20:51.33 | Jack[RCDF | But I suck at file I/O |
| 20:51.43 | tordy | i gave up |
| 20:51.45 | Jack[RCDF | and editing xmls requires file I/O :( |
| 20:51.48 | JManV | you can do file IO with the debug commands |
| 20:51.53 | tordy | dont worry about it it's all about the benjamins |
| 20:51.59 | Jack[RCDF | No but with a separate program. |
| 20:52.14 | JManV | anyways, there's a merit to both an editor and pre-built UIs |
| 20:52.27 | JManV | they could easily coexist happily |
| 20:52.40 | JManV | jademus and i had the same convo the other day |
| 20:52.42 | tordy | i believe that the editor and prebuilt UIs can coexist peacefully |
| 20:52.46 | Jack[RCDF | Mm. I doubt I'll finish the editor any time soon anyway. |
| 20:52.56 | Jack[RCDF | THE QUESTION IS |
| 20:53.03 | JManV | yeah, prebuilt UI repository is much easier to create |
| 20:53.04 | Jack[RCDF | CAN SIX3n AND SEN COEXIST PEACEFULLY |
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| 20:53.06 | Jack[RCDF | :P |
| 20:53.13 | JManV | and it's easier for the mapper, but offers less flexibility |
| 20:53.15 | Skittles | sen?> |
| 20:53.26 | Skittles | charlie? |
| 20:53.27 | JManV | editer would offer more flexibility |
| 20:53.44 | Jack[RCDF | SEN = staredit.net |
| 20:54.00 | Jack[RCDF | Sixen hates us, cos he tried to buy us out for what became mapster, and we said no. |
| 20:54.04 | tordy_ | i havent been to SEN in a while |
| 20:54.07 | Jack[RCDF | Then there was arguments etc etc. |
| 20:54.10 | Jack[RCDF | were* |
| 20:54.29 | tordy_ | SEN was the website i used to goto for brood war mappin |
| 20:54.31 | tordy_ | the good old days |
| 20:54.35 | Jack[RCDF | yeah |
| 20:54.48 | Jack[RCDF | It's slower than mapster nowadays, but IMHO has a better community. |
| 20:55.00 | Jack[RCDF | No offence :P |
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| 20:55.01 | Sixen | *sigh* |
| 20:55.07 | Sixen | Jack, nobody cares about SEN, why must you always bring it up? |
| 20:55.23 | Sixen | The only time anyone ever talks about it is when you come here |
| 20:55.25 | Jack[RCDF | Go 'way sixen, I was talking to peoples. |
| 20:55.39 | Sixen | I don't hate you because you said no |
| 20:55.42 | Sixen | I hate SEN because payne is an idiot |
| 20:55.52 | Jack[RCDF | Wait so you hate SEN because of one person there? |
| 20:55.54 | Sixen | And your community is a bunch of retards |
| 20:56.04 | Jack[RCDF | :( Haters gon' hate. |
| 20:56.05 | Sixen | The old SEN was much better |
| 20:56.31 | tordy_ | was never part of the SEN community |
| 20:56.34 | Cheekything | it was cool before hispters thought it was cool |
| 20:56.36 | tordy_ | i just read their tutorials |
| 20:56.39 | tordy_ | which was fantastic |
| 20:56.53 | tordy_ | nooo!! |
| 20:57.51 | Sixen | haha |
| 20:59.30 | JManV | we only need one community anyways |
| 20:59.49 | tordy_ | yea more than 1 is always just conflict |
| 20:59.50 | Jack[RCDF | Meh, many other communities would beg to differ :P |
| 20:59.51 | tordy_ | we should just unite |
| 21:00.11 | JManV | although i wouldn't mind if some of our members moved on... :P |
| 21:00.17 | Jack[RCDF | I expect galaxywiki.net is the closest to unity we'll ever get, and sixen wouldn't unite with that anyway. |
| 21:00.20 | JManV | i really think this one is the defacto |
| 21:00.30 | tordy_ | onetwo's bank tutorial! |
| 21:00.36 | tordy_ | i love banks!!!! :) |
| 21:00.46 | JManV | he should feel no obligation to unite. really they should be coming here |
| 21:00.58 | Sixen | Jack, nobody ever asked me |
| 21:01.19 | Vexal | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2190890758 |
| 21:01.21 | Jack[RCDF | No, because we knew you'd say no. You came into the GWN thread at sen and trolled. It didn't look good. |
| 21:01.21 | Sixen | In fact, afaik, they all decided they didn't want Mapster anyway. Which is fine, since allyour pages are just copies of my forums anyway |
| 21:01.22 | Sixen | :) |
| 21:01.29 | Jack[RCDF | . |
| 21:01.34 | Jack[RCDF | Stop trolling. |
| 21:01.39 | Sixen | It's my house. |
| 21:01.48 | tordy_ | your command center |
| 21:02.27 | JManV | see that @ by his name? |
| 21:02.31 | Sixen | Mmm |
| 21:02.31 | Jack[RCDF | WHY CAN'T WEEEEEEEEEEEEE BE FRIENDS |
| 21:02.34 | JManV | that's cuz he's awesome |
| 21:02.58 | JManV | sixen does so much for the community, i don't know why anyone would want to hate |
| 21:03.07 | tordy_ | i'd unite with sixen if you know what i mean |
| 21:03.10 | tordy_ | wow that came out wrong |
| 21:03.11 | Sixen | lol tordy |
| 21:03.14 | Jack[RCDF | >.> |
| 21:03.16 | JManV | yeah it did |
| 21:03.31 | Jack[RCDF | Well, how much does he cost? |
| 21:03.31 | Jack[RCDF | >.> |
| 21:03.34 | tordy_ | totally not what i meant im 100% NO HOMO |
| 21:03.57 | Vexal | did anyone read my post? |
| 21:04.01 | tordy_ | yes |
| 21:04.08 | Jack[RCDF | Vexal, I don't quite get it. |
| 21:04.13 | Vexal | i made it up |
| 21:04.16 | Vexal | since that guy's post was retarded |
| 21:04.16 | Jack[RCDF | Are you putting him down or something? |
| 21:04.22 | Jack[RCDF | Indeed it was. |
| 21:04.33 | Jack[RCDF | I wonder who he is, don't think I've seen him on SEN. |
| 21:04.42 | Jack[RCDF | Maybe he's from udmod or sc2mod or something. |
| 21:05.23 | JManV | that's a total troll post vexal |
| 21:05.30 | Vexal | mine? or his |
| 21:05.35 | tordy_ | anyone here coded a sudoku generator before? |
| 21:05.36 | JManV | yes? |
| 21:05.38 | Jack[RCDF | Yours :P |
| 21:05.41 | Vexal | well |
| 21:05.44 | Vexal | wasn't his a troll too? |
| 21:05.47 | Vexal | "kills for cash" |
| 21:05.49 | Vexal | wtf does that mean |
| 21:05.53 | JManV | yours |
| 21:06.00 | tordy_ | because if you did, i want to know about the algorithm you used for generating latin squares |
| 21:06.00 | Vexal | i responded accordingly. |
| 21:06.05 | JManV | you didn't follow his link? |
| 21:06.08 | Vexal | no |
| 21:06.09 | tordy_ | becaudse i cant figure it out! |
| 21:06.10 | Sixen | Oh vexal, icwutudidthar |
| 21:06.12 | JManV | there's actual map editor stuff |
| 21:06.17 | Vexal | really? |
| 21:06.20 | JManV | yeah |
| 21:06.22 | Sixen | yeah, it's the SEN Wiki |
| 21:06.27 | tordy_ | i found exampes, but they either dont work or are too complicated |
| 21:06.36 | Vexal | i thought it was spam for one of this scam things |
| 21:06.40 | Sixen | it is spam |
| 21:06.41 | Jack[RCDF | Wat. It's not the SEn wiki. |
| 21:06.43 | Sixen | hence why it was reported |
| 21:06.50 | Jack[RCDF | I'm confused. |
| 21:06.50 | Vexal | oh. |
| 21:06.54 | JManV | his post was poorly written, but he /was/ trying to serve a purpose |
| 21:06.58 | Jack[RCDF | He didn't exactly word his post well, but |
| 21:07.00 | JManV | your post was 100% troll |
| 21:07.01 | Jack[RCDF | yeah what JMan said. |
| 21:07.11 | Vexal | should i delete mine? |
| 21:07.17 | Vexal | if he was trying to be helpful.. |
| 21:07.17 | Sixen | doesn't really matter |
| 21:07.21 | Vexal | then i somewhat feel remorseful. |
| 21:07.21 | Sixen | thread will likely be deleted |
| 21:07.28 | Sixen | vexal feels remorse |
| 21:07.29 | Sixen | O_O! |
| 21:07.30 | Vexal | well are they going to suspend me |
| 21:07.33 | Sixen | nah |
| 21:07.36 | JManV | no |
| 21:07.43 | Jack[RCDF | You can get away with a lot on the bnet forums. |
| 21:07.46 | Sixen | If you called him a cocksucker and told him you'd fuck his mother... |
| 21:07.48 | Sixen | Then possibly. |
| 21:07.52 | JManV | you'd have to swear or be more enflamatory than that |
| 21:07.53 | Sixen | only possibly. |
| 21:08.01 | Vexal | oh. hmm. suddenly the remorse has subsided. |
| 21:08.09 | Sixen | lol |
| 21:08.26 | JManV | so its not remorse, it's concern about your bnet status |
| 21:08.36 | Jack[RCDF | SC2 CRASH AGAIN |
| 21:08.43 | Jack[RCDF | I don't know why I bother :( |
| 21:08.43 | Vexal | maybe it's just a short attention span on my part. |
| 21:10.33 | Jack[RCDF | Heh, Bnet forums has a trolling report function. |
| 21:10.53 | JManV | indeed it does |
| 21:11.06 | Jack[RCDF | Anyways, who wants to play some LoL |
| 21:11.17 | JManV | now that i think about it, coming back here for high-fives on your troll post is kinda troll-y, too... :P |
| 21:11.29 | Jack[RCDF | We just got trolled hard. |
| 21:11.38 | JManV | we got rick-trolled |
| 21:11.45 | Jack[RCDF | Peace. Cept for sixen, don't think he wants peace. |
| 21:11.51 | JManV | never gonna give you up |
| 21:12.09 | JManV | nev'r gonna give, nev'r gonna give |
| 21:12.27 | Sixen | People like that make me want to slit my wrists. |
| 21:12.33 | JManV | will stop counter-trolling now |
| 21:12.36 | Sixen | :P |
| 21:12.46 | Skittles | what's scale absolute value for? |
| 21:12.48 | Vexal | i don't like the term "troll" |
| 21:12.51 | Vexal | i like the term "funny" |
| 21:13.01 | Vexal | skittles: i don't know. |
| 21:13.05 | Sixen | lol |
| 21:13.09 | Sixen | counter-funnying |
| 21:13.32 | Skittles | lol ty |
| 21:13.41 | Vexal | well, it's better than being ignored |
| 21:14.51 | Skittles | meh |
| 21:14.56 | Skittles | what's the point of having xyz |
| 21:15.08 | Skittles | if it scales the other numbers to the highest one |
| 21:15.30 | JManV | ? |
| 21:16.07 | Skittles | If i Scale an effect, 1, .5 , .5 it makes it all 1 |
| 21:16.34 | Vexal | it does? |
| 21:16.47 | Skittles | yeah |
| 21:16.51 | Vexal | i don't think that's true |
| 21:16.55 | Skittles | it seems to work for somethings |
| 21:16.56 | Skittles | but not most |
| 21:17.02 | Vexal | what type of actor? |
| 21:17.05 | Skittles | like it works for my unit, but not this effect. |
| 21:17.07 | Vexal | if it's 1, maybe you just can't change it |
| 21:17.13 | Vexal | squibs don't seem to change |
| 21:17.39 | Skittles | jmanv u owe me a frost bolt looking model in the editor. |
| 21:17.42 | Skittles | gogogo! |
| 21:17.53 | JManV | i don't model |
| 21:18.01 | Skittles | no |
| 21:18.04 | JManV | oh, you mean find one? |
| 21:18.05 | Skittles | im saying find one the previewer |
| 21:18.07 | Skittles | yeah |
| 21:18.13 | JManV | how about one of the zerg missles? |
| 21:18.17 | Skittles | hmm? |
| 21:18.36 | JManV | the zerg shoot all kinds of spines and pointy things |
| 21:18.41 | JManV | they might be the wrong color tho |
| 21:18.48 | JManV | but the right shape |
| 21:18.55 | JManV | hydralisk and queen, for example |
| 21:18.56 | Vexal | skittles |
| 21:18.59 | Vexal | want to see my frost bolt |
| 21:19.34 | Skittles | sure |
| 21:19.40 | Vexal | message me on bnet |
| 21:19.48 | Skittles | i had something the right shape |
| 21:19.50 | Skittles | but noooooo |
| 21:20.01 | Skittles | the color was origianlly orange, so all my attempts turned green |
| 21:20.21 | Vexal | let me show you mine |
| 21:20.35 | Skittles | k |
| 21:20.36 | Skittles | 1 sec |
| 21:22.23 | JManV | i'll show you mine if you show me yours |
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| 21:34.36 | MrOp | hello |
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| 21:38.59 | Rodrigo | damn. I'm trying to update my map |
| 21:39.11 | Rodrigo | I got 10 GATEWAY_DOWN already :( |
| 21:39.23 | Rodrigo | can't update :( |
| 21:40.50 | Rodrigo | 11 now |
| 21:42.18 | Vexal | go for 12! |
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| 21:46.38 | Rodrigo | I found a bug on starcraft |
| 21:47.10 | Rodrigo | when you have many published maps with the loading screen with the same file title, the title stays stored in cache, so each map will open the same loading screen even though they have different loading screen |
| 21:47.40 | Rodrigo | and different people will see different loading screen based on what map they have played first |
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| 21:48.35 | grim001 | ugh so far I've logged about 6 hours trying to get these 8 libraries up to standard |
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| 21:50.48 | Vexal | that's less than an hour a library |
| 21:50.52 | Vexal | good pace. |
| 21:51.56 | grim001 | that's AFTER the libraries were "done" |
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| 21:52.21 | grim001 | in other words, I'm making mostly cosmetic changes |
| 21:52.28 | Jack[RCDF | QueenGambit, what? |
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| 21:52.38 | Jack[RCDF | I gtg to work, make it quick :P |
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| 21:53.03 | Jack[RCDF | woah |
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| 22:05.28 | wOlfLinG | Could Bungie be working on Project Titan with Blizzard? Bungie has a contract with Activision-Blizzard and are making a shooter MMO. Blizzard is partnered with Activision and is making a Shooter MMO |
| 22:05.48 | wOlfLinG | Bungie for the shooter part, Blizzard for the MMO part |
| 22:07.07 | Skittles | I'm so confused. |
| 22:07.44 | Skittles | my trigger is doing something crazy |
| 22:07.45 | Skittles | idk why |
| 22:08.24 | Sixen | yeah, yeah |
| 22:08.31 | Sixen | It's possible, but I doubt it imo |
| 22:08.52 | Skittles | titan is a fps? |
| 22:08.57 | Skittles | or shooter i guess i should say |
| 22:09.05 | Skittles | I thought it was just an action mmo |
| 22:09.37 | Skittles | god sixen |
| 22:09.39 | Skittles | save me |
| 22:10.03 | Skittles | 1 projectile, while all of them are created in the same freaking trigger, is going at super sonic speed compared to the others |
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| 22:11.41 | Skittles | found it |
| 22:11.43 | Skittles | that was ghetto. |
| 22:11.55 | Skittles | it enabled my action definition when I changed a parameter value. XD |
| 22:12.14 | Skittles | this is why you shouldn't put more than 1 spell on a trigger! |
| 22:13.22 | Skittles | nice and slow. =d |
| 22:15.31 | Rodrigo | im pissed off |
| 22:15.38 | Rodrigo | I am 1 hour trying to update my maps |
| 22:15.46 | Rodrigo | GATEWAY_DOWN at least 20 times :( |
| 22:16.09 | Rodrigo | and when I finished update them, I realized there's something to fix |
| 22:16.25 | Rodrigo | :( |
| 22:17.07 | Skittles | brb |
| 22:21.37 | Cheekything | how do i add a model to a unit during and effect? |
| 22:21.55 | Bounty | through data? |
| 22:22.00 | Cheekything | sure |
| 22:22.08 | Cheekything | which ever way is easiest |
| 22:22.10 | Bounty | bc u could do it through triggers easier =P |
| 22:22.36 | Bounty | one sec lemme open the editor :) |
| 22:22.39 | Cheekything | cheers |
| 22:22.39 | grim001 | I fear that I am developing an idiosyncratic coding style by relying so heavily on my more "basic" libraries that interpret the native crap into usable crap |
| 22:23.11 | grim001 | but oh well, worthwhile code sharing on a large scale is a pipe dream until a good preprocessor appears |
| 22:23.17 | Bounty | ok |
| 22:23.21 | Bounty | under events |
| 22:23.23 | Bounty | Effect Used |
| 22:23.31 | Bounty | then you use Attach model to triggering unit |
| 22:23.37 | Bounty | or create model at point |
| 22:23.49 | Bounty | actually |
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| 22:24.02 | Bounty | how many units does the player control? |
| 22:24.21 | Cheekything | only 1 that can use the effect/ability |
| 22:24.32 | Bounty | yeah but does the player only control 1 unit? |
| 22:24.37 | Cheekything | no |
| 22:24.49 | Bounty | because Effect Used uses players and not units |
| 22:24.53 | Bounty | so you can only get the triggering player |
| 22:24.56 | Skittles | hmm |
| 22:25.00 | Bounty | so ull have to set that unit to a variable |
| 22:25.19 | Bounty | with an array using the players number =P |
| 22:25.44 | Cheekything | hmm i think the data editor might be better |
| 22:26.48 | Bounty | well i know how to create a model on effect in data |
| 22:26.51 | Bounty | but idk how to attach it |
| 22:26.58 | Cheekything | same |
| 22:27.12 | Cheekything | i'm trying to find a tutorial on the forums |
| 22:27.46 | Bounty | Do you know how Skittles? |
| 22:28.31 | Skittles | hmm? |
| 22:28.55 | Bounty | to attach a model on effect |
| 22:28.57 | Bounty | via data |
| 22:29.17 | Skittles | i know how to attach an effect to a unit via data |
| 22:29.23 | Skittles | other than that >.> |
| 22:30.29 | Bounty | i onlky know how to Create a model on effect |
| 22:30.33 | Bounty | idk about attaching lol |
| 22:30.45 | Cheekything | ah joys :D |
| 22:30.45 | Bounty | other then triggers |
| 22:30.57 | Skittles | yeah |
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| 22:38.48 | Bounty | wow |
| 22:38.50 | Bounty | what a f*cking joke |
| 22:39.02 | Bounty | out of NOWHERE my map has a huge glitch/bug in it now |
| 22:39.09 | Bounty | that never happend before and i havent done anything to the map |
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| 23:03.22 | egod | anyone have experience with lag on Bnet? |
| 23:03.33 | egod | i wanna know how to reduce it |
| 23:06.09 | egod | all those people afk |
| 23:07.13 | Bounty | is there a way to set a keypress to an integer? |
| 23:07.28 | Bounty | like say i wanted W to represent as the number 1 |
| 23:08.40 | egod | probably |
| 23:08.51 | egod | anyone have experience with lag on Bnet? |
| 23:09.20 | Bounty | well tahts what im trying to work on |
| 23:09.29 | Bounty | do u know how to do what i just asked though? |
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| 23:10.45 | egod | idk, i never touch this thing |
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| 23:28.28 | egod | anyone have experience with lag on Bnet? |
| 23:28.51 | Sixen | what's up |
| 23:29.44 | Skittles | nm u |
| 23:30.02 | egod | hey sixen |
| 23:30.07 | egod | do you think if |
| 23:30.22 | egod | i change the way my terrain work i can fix up lag on bnet |
| 23:30.44 | egod | i see some map with kind of (portal thing) mage little space so no lag |
| 23:30.57 | egod | idk if tehre a trick |
| 23:30.58 | Sixen | Hum, so you think terrain may affect the lag? |
| 23:31.04 | egod | yeah |
| 23:31.10 | egod | idk |
| 23:31.38 | egod | i mean, how those 3rd person rpg have no lag? cause the map are pretty small |
| 23:31.47 | egod | so i was thinking |
| 23:31.54 | Sixen | hmmm |
| 23:31.57 | egod | like a way to hide the map |
| 23:32.03 | egod | if your in this zone |
| 23:32.05 | egod | idk |
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| 23:32.14 | egod | that why i asking if someone is experienced in this |
| 23:32.50 | Sixen | lol, sorry. I'm not exactly sure then. |
| 23:33.03 | egod | its like Hide part of the map |
| 23:33.08 | egod | reduceing lag by lot |
| 23:33.12 | egod | idk if this work |
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| 23:35.22 | egod | if you see SC universe, they lagging like me |
| 23:35.25 | egod | same lag |
| 23:35.46 | egod | but if you go in a game like 3rd person, map is so small and they pressing key no-stop, no lag |
| 23:41.16 | Sixen | Yeah, SCU has that prolbme |
| 23:43.00 | Bounty | Sixen |
| 23:43.12 | Bounty | Is it possible to return a keypress as an integer? |
| 23:43.26 | Skittles | if u set it as an integer. |
| 23:43.33 | Skittles | left pressed, global variable = 1 |
| 23:43.39 | Skittles | right global variable = 2 |
| 23:43.48 | Bounty | how though |
| 23:43.49 | Sixen | what he said |
| 23:43.53 | Bounty | i dont see any variables that can do that |
| 23:44.05 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.11 | Bounty | thats the only way i can return a key press as a variable |
| 23:44.33 | Bounty | if i can do this that will eliminate the need to check which key pressed and itll make my wasd even better |
| 23:46.03 | Bounty | like can i return the array number? |
| 23:46.03 | Bounty | 1 through 4 |
| 23:47.06 | Skittles | integer variable |
| 23:47.32 | egod | sixen log on Bnet East, Channel diablo |
| 23:47.32 | Bounty | ok but how do i set the integer based on what key |
| 23:47.36 | Bounty | without using if thens |
| 23:47.40 | egod | will test what i talked |
| 23:47.49 | Skittles | u just manually make it =1 instead of using an actual whatcha call its |
| 23:47.52 | Bounty | like i dont want to use any check conditions |
| 23:48.14 | Bounty | what? |
| 23:48.16 | Bounty | u cant do that lol |
| 23:48.24 | Skittles | event - unit clicks left mouse button |
| 23:48.31 | Skittles | set variable global integer = 1 |
| 23:48.41 | Skittles | event - unit clicks right mouse button |
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| 23:48.50 | Skittles | set global integer variable = 2 |
| 23:49.01 | Bounty | ok so i would have to make a seperate trigger per key? |
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| 23:51.38 | Bounty | i really think having serpate triggers per key would be faster dont u think? |
| 23:51.41 | Bounty | no condition checks |
| 23:51.49 | Bounty | it would just straight up set the boolean |
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| 23:52.40 | Stewox | ~seen mindworx |
| 23:52.50 | purl | mindworx <~Nikolaj.M@188.176.197.82> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 152d 3h 3m 5s ago, saying: 'Human factor is still reason enough for macros'. |
| 23:52.50 | Stewox | ~seen Mindworx |
| 23:52.51 | purl | mindworx <~Nikolaj.M@188.176.197.82> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowace, 152d 3h 3m 6s ago, saying: 'Human factor is still reason enough for macros'. |
