| 00:00.24 | JManV | dammit i closed that accidently op |
| 00:01.36 | JManV | man, i haven't played regular starcraft in a long time... |
| 00:01.48 | deathnight114 | I've been playing starcraft 1 more than SCII |
| 00:01.49 | JManV | i got a bonus pool of like 400 |
| 00:01.56 | deathnight114 | if that's what you're talking about lol |
| 00:02.24 | JManV | no, i meant sc2 ladder games |
| 00:02.28 | Lilianna | I think he meant Melee |
| 00:02.28 | Lilianna | yah |
| 00:02.33 | JManV | but that's funny |
| 00:02.35 | MrOp | you wanted to play a normal game |
| 00:02.58 | MrOp | oO |
| 00:03.07 | MrOp | isaac i like your new song |
| 00:03.10 | MrOp | XD |
| 00:03.15 | Icebane | god dammit I'm so angry |
| 00:03.16 | MrOp | i like the end better |
| 00:03.17 | deathnight114 | Lucid Color's? |
| 00:03.17 | Lilianna | If I were more competitive I might play Ladder, but I find it not that interesting |
| 00:03.19 | deathnight114 | haha |
| 00:03.22 | deathnight114 | Thank's |
| 00:03.22 | MrOp | yea |
| 00:03.23 | Icebane | I cant understand why this isnt working! |
| 00:03.26 | deathnight114 | Making that ending not clip was a bitch |
| 00:03.27 | deathnight114 | >.< |
| 00:03.39 | deathnight114 | cause i was actually increasing the master volume (something i almost NEVER do) |
| 00:06.03 | Icebane | can sum trigger pro a look at this? |
| 00:06.05 | Icebane | http://pastebin.com/9yTd0GxN |
| 00:06.06 | JManV | i don't 1v1 ladder really |
| 00:06.12 | JManV | i like 4v4 |
| 00:06.33 | JManV | gotta be rusty by now |
| 00:06.45 | deathnight114 | I prefer 2v2 |
| 00:06.45 | JManV | although it doesn't take much to just build a ton of stalkers |
| 00:06.47 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:06.53 | deathnight114 | eww stalker's |
| 00:06.55 | deathnight114 | EWW PROTOSS |
| 00:07.00 | deathnight114 | Zerg > All |
| 00:07.18 | JManV | i wanna try zerg, but i don't want to tank my rating |
| 00:07.22 | Icebane | 2v2 or 3v3 is the most fun :D |
| 00:07.31 | deathnight114 | you can make a second account i believe now |
| 00:07.33 | deathnight114 | they enabled that |
| 00:07.38 | JManV | i'm diamond in 3v3 |
| 00:07.49 | deathnight114 | is plat 1v1 |
| 00:07.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster TeddyTeddy (~Teddy@public-nat1.scc.losrios.edu) |
| 00:07.54 | deathnight114 | gold everything else i believe |
| 00:07.54 | JManV | plat in 4v4 |
| 00:08.07 | JManV | i'm like inches from diamond tho |
| 00:08.18 | JManV | i'm 15 games over 50%, and 300 pts above 2nd place |
| 00:08.20 | deathnight114 | play 111 |
| 00:08.22 | deathnight114 | 1v1* |
| 00:08.24 | JManV | with a massive bonus pool |
| 00:08.24 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:08.35 | JManV | but it won't promote me :( |
| 00:08.42 | deathnight114 | i'm 1st in gold 2v2 |
| 00:08.47 | deathnight114 | and it has refused to report me lol |
| 00:08.54 | JManV | i'm gold 1v1 with 15 games :P |
| 00:08.59 | deathnight114 | i have |
| 00:09.03 | deathnight114 | about 500 games 2v2 |
| 00:09.05 | deathnight114 | um... |
| 00:09.08 | deathnight114 | 100 games 1v1 |
| 00:09.13 | deathnight114 | and like 50 of both the others |
| 00:09.19 | deathnight114 | in starcraft 1 on my old account |
| 00:09.22 | Icebane | I FIGURED IT! |
| 00:09.24 | Icebane | Somewhy! |
| 00:09.26 | deathnight114 | i played about 2500 games or something lol |
| 00:09.27 | JademusSreg | I've played exactly 1 ladder game since beta. |
| 00:09.29 | JManV | i have 50 some odd wins in 5v5 |
| 00:09.29 | Icebane | My custom upgrade wont work! |
| 00:09.32 | deathnight114 | lmao |
| 00:09.34 | deathnight114 | xD |
| 00:09.49 | JManV | i think i'm ~100 from my team 500 wins |
| 00:10.15 | JManV | er, no 5v5 |
| 00:10.20 | JManV | 5v5 no exist |
| 00:10.25 | JManV | 5=3 |
| 00:10.29 | deathnight114 | lopl |
| 00:10.32 | JManV | there's some math for ya :P |
| 00:10.35 | JManV | 5=3 |
| 00:10.36 | deathnight114 | JManV wanna play some 2v2's? |
| 00:10.37 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:10.40 | deathnight114 | i'm deathnight.468 |
| 00:10.45 | deathnight114 | OMGWTFBBQ@5=3 |
| 00:10.52 | JManV | i don't think you want to play with me right now |
| 00:10.57 | deathnight114 | lol but i do |
| 00:10.59 | deathnight114 | owait... |
| 00:11.00 | deathnight114 | nvm i don't |
| 00:11.02 | deathnight114 | cause |
| 00:11.02 | JManV | i need to get back into it first |
| 00:11.04 | deathnight114 | i forgot |
| 00:11.08 | JManV | rusty as hell |
| 00:11.08 | deathnight114 | starcraft isn't working right for me atm |
| 00:11.10 | deathnight114 | >.< |
| 00:11.20 | Vexal | how does that make you feel |
| 00:11.31 | JManV | horny |
| 00:11.37 | Vexal | that's a retarded way to feel |
| 00:11.38 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 00:11.51 | JManV | then why do i feel it all the time? |
| 00:11.56 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:12.04 | JademusSreg | That's just asking for it. |
| 00:12.42 | Vexal | well |
| 00:12.46 | Vexal | are you older than 13? |
| 00:12.56 | Vexal | usually at that age, people undergo changes in their bodies |
| 00:13.00 | Vexal | new hormones are produced that weren't before. |
| 00:13.05 | Vexal | so it might have something to do with that. |
| 00:13.07 | JManV | i'm 33 |
| 00:13.19 | Vexal | wow that's old. |
| 00:13.22 | JManV | ikr |
| 00:13.26 | JManV | i'm ancient |
| 00:13.30 | Vexal | you could be my dad |
| 00:13.32 | Vexal | if you wanted. |
| 00:13.35 | JManV | and i'm making a pokemon game |
| 00:13.39 | JademusSreg | Kinky. |
| 00:13.39 | MrOp | hay i am 33 |
| 00:13.40 | tordy | python 2 or 3 |
| 00:13.41 | JManV | how do you know i'm not? :P |
| 00:13.42 | MrOp | :/ |
| 00:13.47 | tordy | 3 right |
| 00:13.48 | Vexal | cause my dad is 52 |
| 00:13.50 | tordy | alright |
| 00:13.55 | deathnight114 | JManV: what's your SCII Account? |
| 00:13.56 | deathnight114 | I'll add you |
| 00:14.02 | deathnight114 | lol i'm a bit rusty too |
| 00:14.06 | JManV | JManV.733 |
| 00:14.07 | deathnight114 | i've been playing too much starcraft 1 |
| 00:14.13 | JManV | i think i'm silver in 2v2 anyways |
| 00:14.20 | JManV | with like 5 games |
| 00:14.25 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 00:14.32 | deathnight114 | added |
| 00:15.07 | MrOp | so if i where to created unit abilitiy - like psi storm - at point how would i do that |
| 00:15.15 | MrOp | create* |
| 00:15.20 | JManV | next year will be a pretty significant year for me... turning 35 :( |
| 00:15.32 | MrOp | :/ |
| 00:15.43 | JManV | do you have a unit you can attach it too? |
| 00:15.47 | MrOp | nop |
| 00:15.52 | deathnight114 | Next year will be a pretty significan year for me too... turning 16! |
| 00:15.55 | deathnight114 | +:D |
| 00:15.56 | MrOp | sigh |
| 00:16.02 | Icebane | haha |
| 00:16.03 | Lilianna | o.o |
| 00:16.04 | MrOp | do i need to have a unit |
| 00:16.06 | Lilianna | 16.... |
| 00:16.11 | Icebane | OH GOD! |
| 00:16.12 | JManV | i always figured i'd be dead by 35 :P |
| 00:16.15 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 00:16.18 | MrOp | lili have you listen to his music |
| 00:16.22 | MrOp | if you like techno is pwns |
| 00:16.23 | Lilianna | You still have time JManV! |
| 00:16.30 | JManV | i do! i still do! |
| 00:16.31 | Icebane | JManV: I just figured out that seemingly the upgrade I used buged |
| 00:16.34 | deathnight114 | http://www.youtube.com/user/deathnight114 |
| 00:16.44 | deathnight114 | New age or Music is Life |
| 00:16.48 | deathnight114 | is probably my best song's |
| 00:16.51 | Lilianna | Im watching MrBitter teach people to play Starcraf t: |
| 00:16.51 | Lilianna | :o |
| 00:16.52 | Icebane | and when I duplicated an original upgrade |
| 00:16.55 | Icebane | it worked fine |
| 00:17.02 | MrOp | he is just trolling for subsribers |
| 00:17.08 | JManV | i had music is life stuck in my head the other day, you a-hole :P |
| 00:17.15 | deathnight114 | 5LMAO |
| 00:17.16 | deathnight114 | LMAO* |
| 00:17.29 | MrOp | yea i had that happen to me the other day too |
| 00:17.32 | JademusSreg | 5LMAO looks cooler. |
| 00:17.33 | deathnight114 | xd |
| 00:17.38 | deathnight114 | I agreed |
| 00:17.40 | deathnight114 | 5LMAO |
| 00:17.46 | deathnight114 | copy and pastes that for later use |
| 00:18.16 | deathnight114 | and i'm not trolling for subscriber's |
| 00:18.22 | MrOp | yes you are |
| 00:18.25 | MrOp | lol |
| 00:18.27 | deathnight114 | howso? |
| 00:18.31 | Sixen | JManV iMisu ran the ventrilo |
| 00:18.34 | MrOp | well you dont mod |
| 00:18.35 | deathnight114 | I've been here |
| 00:18.39 | JManV | are you even working on a map? |
| 00:18.41 | deathnight114 | for longer than you have |
| 00:18.42 | MrOp | and you have super awesume music |
| 00:18.44 | deathnight114 | i guarentee it |
| 00:18.46 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 00:18.49 | deathnight114 | and actually |
| 00:18.50 | JManV | thanks six |
| 00:18.57 | deathnight114 | I told you i DO have a bit of modding experiance |
| 00:19.13 | MrOp | putting a doodad on a map doesnt count |
| 00:19.16 | MrOp | lol |
| 00:19.18 | deathnight114 | Just nexer release my map's |
| 00:19.21 | deathnight114 | lol... |
| 00:19.26 | Lilianna | Ive put Doodads and Units on maps! |
| 00:19.28 | deathnight114 | I made a third person view map |
| 00:19.29 | JManV | that's what i thought. no longer around :( |
| 00:19.29 | deathnight114 | once |
| 00:19.30 | MrOp | you should make a map |
| 00:19.32 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:19.34 | MrOp | that has all your music |
| 00:19.36 | Lilianna | Back in the Beta I even gave the Reaper Stimpack. >.> |
| 00:19.40 | MrOp | and its a dance place |
| 00:19.41 | deathnight114 | hm... |
| 00:19.43 | deathnight114 | I'll make a map |
| 00:19.44 | deathnight114 | that trigger's my music |
| 00:19.46 | deathnight114 | :D |
| 00:19.48 | Lilianna | Then I buffed Stimpack and it was hilarious |
| 00:19.51 | MrOp | pwned |
| 00:19.53 | Sixen | yup |
| 00:19.54 | Lilianna | as the Reaper could clear a map in half a second |
| 00:19.56 | MrOp | make a dance floor |
| 00:20.07 | deathnight114 | hm... |
| 00:20.10 | MrOp | and then have marines defend the dance floor |
| 00:20.13 | deathnight114 | is there a way to change like... |
| 00:20.19 | MrOp | if they destroy the DJ you lose |
| 00:20.23 | MrOp | DJ box |
| 00:20.23 | Lilianna | I wish I had money to goto EDC. :| |
| 00:20.24 | deathnight114 | OH |
| 00:20.26 | deathnight114 | GENIUS IDEA |
| 00:20.28 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:20.30 | JManV | they're not very expensive. wonder how we could finance one |
| 00:20.30 | MrOp | yea basic enough |
| 00:20.33 | deathnight114 | so... |
| 00:20.34 | Lilianna | In Las Vegas this year! :o |
| 00:20.38 | deathnight114 | kinda like a TD Game |
| 00:20.40 | deathnight114 | But different |
| 00:20.42 | deathnight114 | I want |
| 00:20.50 | deathnight114 | it to change colors like you're in a dj room |
| 00:20.51 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:20.55 | deathnight114 | like.. |
| 00:20.57 | JManV | btw |
| 00:21.01 | JManV | nvm |
| 00:21.03 | deathnight114 | a disco ball kindof (very old but that's what i want lol) |
| 00:21.08 | Lilianna | Lets make an Inverted TD! |
| 00:21.11 | MrOp | have lili make you a disco ball of doom |
| 00:21.13 | Lilianna | Where the computer makes towers |
| 00:21.13 | deathnight114 | that's the only thing i'm not gonna know how to do |
| 00:21.17 | MrOp | the drops a nuke if you lose |
| 00:21.20 | deathnight114 | hm... |
| 00:22.15 | Icebane | deathnight114: that has been doen already I think |
| 00:22.26 | deathnight114 | well i haven't watched much starcraft 2 games |
| 00:22.28 | deathnight114 | as i've said before |
| 00:22.32 | deathnight114 | countless times |
| 00:22.34 | deathnight114 | i'm a musician |
| 00:22.36 | deathnight114 | ^.^ |
| 00:22.41 | deathnight114 | what song's to include |
| 00:22.44 | deathnight114 | New age and music is life for sure |
| 00:22.51 | MrOp | well that you have to make music for our maps it settled |
| 00:22.52 | Icebane | I'm talking about the inverted td! |
| 00:22.53 | deathnight114 | makes an extended mix |
| 00:23.02 | deathnight114 | oh |
| 00:23.05 | deathnight114 | then... |
| 00:23.06 | deathnight114 | why |
| 00:23.08 | deathnight114 | did you sai |
| 00:23.10 | deathnight114 | say* |
| 00:23.11 | MrOp | i did |
| 00:23.16 | deathnight114 | deathnight114: That has already been made i think |
| 00:23.16 | MrOp | i asked you to make me one |
| 00:23.17 | MrOp | lol |
| 00:23.22 | deathnight114 | I wasn't talking about the inverted td |
| 00:23.23 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:23.38 | deathnight114 | GOD DAMNIT i don't wanna make anyone else music, i like to but the problem is is i never follow through... |
| 00:23.40 | deathnight114 | ohhh |
| 00:23.42 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:23.50 | MrOp | so stop being a baby |
| 00:23.51 | Lilianna | Ice Cream! |
| 00:23.52 | MrOp | and do it |
| 00:24.04 | MrOp | dont turn it into a 300 hour project neither |
| 00:24.12 | MrOp | just do what you can do and cool |
| 00:24.20 | MrOp | or dont |
| 00:24.22 | MrOp | w/e |
| 00:24.30 | deathnight114 | lmao |
| 00:24.39 | deathnight114 | it takes me about 300 hours to make 5-7 song's |
| 00:24.45 | deathnight114 | generally i spend 50 hours per song |
| 00:24.47 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:24.54 | MrOp | this of this as training for when you make it |
| 00:25.02 | MrOp | people will want you to make song for stuff |
| 00:25.04 | deathnight114 | so TECHNICALLY just making a map w/ two of my song's it is already a 100+ Hour project |
| 00:25.18 | MrOp | you have a 10 meg limit FYI |
| 00:25.21 | MrOp | :/ |
| 00:25.24 | MrOp | PWNED |
| 00:25.24 | deathnight114 | -_- |
| 00:25.26 | deathnight114 | i know |
| 00:25.28 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:25.32 | deathnight114 | serious problem w/ that |
| 00:25.39 | deathnight114 | i export most of my song's |
| 00:25.42 | deathnight114 | in 450kb/s |
| 00:25.42 | Skittles | hmm |
| 00:25.46 | MrOp | i am sure you can figure something out |
| 00:25.46 | deathnight114 | which makes HUGE files |
| 00:25.48 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:25.51 | deathnight114 | meh |
| 00:25.52 | MrOp | you might even make music for game |
| 00:25.54 | MrOp | XD |
| 00:25.56 | deathnight114 | i can export 128 then i guess |
| 00:26.03 | Skittles | I want to make the heads of my units shrink... not possible without importing it eh? |
| 00:26.04 | deathnight114 | i'm already making a home game though |
| 00:26.06 | deathnight114 | : |
| 00:26.08 | deathnight114 | :( |
| 00:26.12 | MrOp | 98 doesnt sound bad |
| 00:26.15 | MrOp | er 96 |
| 00:26.30 | deathnight114 | http://i56.tinypic.com/2h2ic1w.png |
| 00:26.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (bc6d23e2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.109.35.226) |
| 00:26.37 | deathnight114 | not many graphics yet |
| 00:26.43 | MrOp | lol |
| 00:26.43 | deathnight114 | will be fully 2d |
| 00:26.48 | deathnight114 | but i'm already making music for this game |
| 00:26.49 | deathnight114 | GOSH |
| 00:26.49 | Demonette | Uhm... how do critters move around randomly? |
| 00:26.50 | Demonette | ... |
| 00:26.50 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:26.53 | MrOp | you cant do that in sc2 |
| 00:26.57 | MrOp | lol |
| 00:27.01 | Demonette | thought it was an behaviour in the beta |
| 00:27.02 | deathnight114 | this isn't starcraft 2 |
| 00:27.06 | MrOp | well you could it would be super easy |
| 00:27.08 | MrOp | lol |
| 00:27.09 | Demonette | but know they don't seem to have one... |
| 00:27.16 | Lilianna | Demonette, They have Wander |
| 00:27.24 | Lilianna | In their Idle Information |
| 00:27.34 | Demonette | idle information? |
| 00:27.43 | Lilianna | In the Unit |
| 00:27.46 | Lilianna | theres something about Idle |
| 00:27.57 | Lilianna | Which has to do with random facing, idle animation, or idle movement |
| 00:28.12 | Vexal | fidget? |
| 00:28.20 | Lilianna | That might be the right word |
| 00:28.28 | Vexal | it's certainly a word. |
| 00:28.35 | Vexal | whether it's the right one is to be determined. |
| 00:28.45 | Lilianna | but its int eh Unit Information |
| 00:28.49 | Lilianna | down near the bottom I believe |
| 00:28.50 | Vexal | yes, yes it is. |
| 00:29.17 | deathnight114 | okay i'm working on the DJ Defender map now lol... |
| 00:29.35 | Demonette | =/ why isn't it a simply behaviour anymore? -.- dang... |
| 00:30.25 | Lilianna | You could make a behavior that does the same thing if you want :o |
| 00:30.36 | MrOp | ENIGMATIC PENGUIN SLURPEE |
| 00:30.46 | MrOp | WOOOOOOOOOO |
| 00:31.03 | JademusSreg | Did anyone test the demo? |
| 00:31.07 | deathnight114 | lmao |
| 00:31.13 | MrOp | huh |
| 00:31.15 | deathnight114 | ahnaris starcraft |
| 00:31.17 | MrOp | what demo |
| 00:31.18 | deathnight114 | is the guy that named that map |
| 00:31.20 | deathnight114 | or... |
| 00:31.22 | deathnight114 | song.. |
| 00:31.24 | deathnight114 | xd |
| 00:31.26 | deathnight114 | xD |
| 00:32.11 | Demonette | Thx liliana |
| 00:32.16 | Demonette | lilianna |
| 00:32.24 | Lilianna | np |
| 00:33.13 | Icebane | Nice bug! |
| 00:33.25 | Icebane | You can't have more than 127 levels on an upgrade |
| 00:33.31 | Icebane | damn cap |
| 00:33.42 | Icebane | even though you can put in up to 255 |
| 00:33.46 | JManV | 127 isn't enough? |
| 00:33.52 | Icebane | only 127 works |
| 00:33.55 | Icebane | almost |
| 00:33.59 | Icebane | I hope so |
| 00:34.08 | JManV | you can make it work |
| 00:34.25 | Icebane | I do spells that does effects based on upgrade level |
| 00:35.14 | Icebane | and I'm not sure 127 levels is enough |
| 00:35.20 | Icebane | but I'll just have to make it so |
| 00:35.54 | JManV | and yet a unit can have 100 weapons. figure that out :P |
| 00:36.27 | JademusSreg | Let me upload a new version of the demo. |
| 00:36.32 | Icebane | lol |
| 00:36.57 | JManV | i'm still in my map |
| 00:37.16 | JManV | did you figure out your thing, op? |
| 00:37.49 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/SuperMapPOC.SC2Map |
| 00:37.59 | tordy | oh my god |
| 00:38.35 | MrOp | jade what is that a demo of |
| 00:41.05 | deathnight114 | What to do first... |
| 00:41.07 | deathnight114 | okay... |
| 00:41.09 | deathnight114 | I think |
| 00:41.23 | deathnight114 | protoss will be the race having a party so they'll have the DJ |
| 00:41.27 | deathnight114 | then zerg just want to sleep |
| 00:41.32 | deathnight114 | and they will just wanna kill the DJ |
| 00:41.34 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:42.10 | Icebane | xD |
| 00:42.34 | Lilianna | and the Terrans are the Police? |
| 00:42.43 | deathnight114 | fuck the terran |
| 00:42.47 | Lilianna | :p |
| 00:42.47 | deathnight114 | they dead bro |
| 00:42.49 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 00:42.53 | Icebane | terrans are the party poopers |
| 00:42.58 | deathnight114 | no.. |
| 00:43.02 | deathnight114 | ZERG are the party pooper's |
| 00:43.07 | Icebane | no they crash it |
| 00:43.09 | deathnight114 | they wanna kill the protoss for throwing constant parties |
| 00:43.11 | deathnight114 | lol |
| 00:43.13 | Icebane | terran makes it awkward |
| 00:43.19 | Icebane | so the zerg chrash it |
| 00:43.21 | Icebane | crash* |
| 00:43.36 | deathnight114 | actually i might have terran |
| 00:43.39 | deathnight114 | because |
| 00:43.42 | deathnight114 | wait.. |
| 00:43.47 | deathnight114 | do zealz have a dance animation? |
| 00:44.06 | Lilianna | Im sure they do |
| 00:44.19 | Icebane | yepp |
| 00:44.24 | Icebane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otr-qvDXg4I |
| 00:44.32 | JademusSreg | In the demo, you control Karass. When you reach the edge of a map, a new map section will be loaded. |
| 00:44.41 | deathnight114 | okay |
| 00:44.46 | deathnight114 | so um.. |
| 00:44.53 | deathnight114 | i'm stupid |
| 00:44.56 | JManV | zealots disco dance |
| 00:44.59 | deathnight114 | i can probably do most of the triggering |
| 00:45.01 | deathnight114 | But... |
| 00:45.09 | deathnight114 | not all of it |
| 00:45.16 | deathnight114 | and i want to have a cinematic in the begenning lol |
| 00:45.38 | Icebane | hahahaha look what I just found xD |
| 00:45.38 | Icebane | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETIVzwCD8sE&NR=1 |
| 00:46.18 | JManV | just now? |
| 00:46.22 | deathnight114 | LOL |
| 00:46.24 | deathnight114 | i remember seeing that |
| 00:46.26 | deathnight114 | when it first came out |
| 00:46.28 | deathnight114 | so epic |
| 00:46.44 | Icebane | hahaha yeah xD |
| 00:46.52 | Icebane | it actually looks a bit "cool" in some way |
| 00:47.21 | deathnight114 | Party til- death |
| 00:47.55 | Icebane | party hard |
| 00:48.13 | JManV | sehr awesome |
| 00:48.19 | Icebane | after finally solving this shit I'll go to bed |
| 00:48.28 | Icebane | 127 max upgrade level wth |
| 00:48.30 | Icebane | -.- |
| 00:53.01 | JManV | interesting jad |
| 00:53.21 | JManV | seemed to lag for me |
| 00:53.30 | JManV | it actually told me to lower my graphics settings |
| 00:53.51 | JademusSreg | I always play on ultra without trouble. =) |
| 00:53.57 | Skizot | jman |
| 00:53.58 | JManV | hmm |
| 00:54.01 | JManV | i was windows |
| 00:54.03 | JManV | ed |
| 00:54.06 | JademusSreg | Me too. |
| 00:54.10 | JManV | but it /never/ says that to me |
| 00:54.18 | Deaeod | errr, is that the POC where you procedurally generate the map? |
| 00:54.23 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 00:54.28 | JManV | so, it would be hard for that to be more than a hack-n-slash |
| 00:54.33 | JManV | no roadmarks |
| 00:54.38 | JademusSreg | Not just that board, but the other maps, as well. |
| 00:54.52 | JademusSreg | Move to the edge, and it loads a new one, based on the x y. |
| 00:55.05 | Icebane | now I'm off! |
| 00:55.06 | Icebane | nn! |
| 00:55.29 | Deaeod | mmmh, so you store the terrain inside the script? |
| 00:55.35 | Deaeod | meh. |
| 00:55.43 | JManV | any to test in NA? |
| 00:55.44 | Skizot | can i beta poketmans? |
| 00:55.53 | JManV | w00t |
| 00:55.58 | JManV | there's my answer :P |
| 00:56.01 | JManV | and yours as well |
| 00:56.13 | Skizot | sweet so pm me a link |
| 00:56.26 | JManV | link? |
| 00:56.51 | JManV | i was gonna run a test session right now |
| 00:56.55 | JManV | you interested? |
| 00:56.55 | Skizot | to POKETMANS |
| 00:57.03 | Skizot | if it will LET me. |
| 00:57.04 | JademusSreg | Since we can't modify terrain with code, there's only so much I can do with it, sadly. |
| 00:57.04 | Skizot | lol |
| 00:57.17 | JManV | needs villages at least |
| 00:57.19 | JademusSreg | Wish I could save visibility maps. |
| 00:57.28 | JManV | and an overall map |
| 00:57.38 | JManV | unless its infinite forever |
| 00:57.43 | JademusSreg | An overall map is impossible given the way it is generated. |
| 00:57.48 | JademusSreg | It is practically infinite. |
| 00:57.52 | JManV | yeah nvm |
| 00:58.03 | JademusSreg | You probably wouldn't ever reach where it wraps from int overflow. |
| 00:58.14 | JManV | i mean, like if each region had a landmark |
| 00:58.24 | JManV | and you had a grid that maybe showed the landmarks |
| 00:58.34 | JManV | might help |
| 00:58.34 | Skizot | skizot.696 |
| 00:59.22 | Deaeod | no terrain deformations this time, huh? |
| 00:59.27 | JademusSreg | Right. |
| 00:59.27 | JManV | or villages marked on a grid, perhaps |
| 00:59.50 | Deaeod | meh, they sucked anyway |
| 01:00.20 | JademusSreg | JMan, it can't be done with that implementation, though I can imagine one where it could be done. |
| 01:00.58 | JademusSreg | I'm curious if this is worth developing into a full-fledged map. |
| 01:01.09 | JademusSreg | If the supermap mechanic is worth exploiting. |
| 01:04.02 | JManV | hard to say |
| 01:04.56 | JManV | as is, it could be a decent hack and slash |
| 01:05.04 | JManV | but it would be lacking depth |
| 01:06.42 | JademusSreg | I can imagine it being used in a persistent multiplayer map, exploring its expanses, killing enemies, trading items. Well, it's more accurate to say I can imagine a game like that, but there are certain limitations that make some things either impossible or impractical. |
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| 01:07.18 | JManV | well, saving a grid of the random seeds isn't too impractical |
| 01:07.24 | JademusSreg | I agree. |
| 01:07.51 | JademusSreg | That's what I had in mind if I wanted to define specific places, landmarks, and such. |
| 01:08.09 | JManV | and you could have an expansive map |
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| 02:50.37 | Shawn|Rawr | This is just something really easy that i know how to do.. to see if i can write a decent tut to begin with |
| 02:50.49 | Skittles | mm |
| 02:50.55 | Skittles | tuts are pretty simple to make imo. |
| 02:50.56 | MrOp | why write when you can make a video |
| 02:51.09 | Skittles | writting is straight to the point |
| 02:51.17 | MrOp | not if your a nuub |
| 02:51.23 | MrOp | or a bad writer |
| 02:51.29 | MrOp | i like pictures |
| 02:51.31 | MrOp | XD |
| 02:51.45 | grim001 | yay, another amazing "system" has been completed, this time it's just to keep custom value indexes from clashing with one another when used in various systems |
| 02:52.23 | JademusSreg | That much closer to your physics system. |
| 02:52.30 | grim001 | I think AutoIndex is going to have about 6 or 7 dependencies |
| 02:52.40 | grim001 | i.e. everything I wrote today and yesterday |
| 02:53.09 | Shawn|Rawr | Combine them into one mod? |
| 02:53.16 | JademusSreg | Wakka wakka |
| 02:53.17 | grim001 | horrible idea |
| 02:53.24 | JManV | so what did you think, jad? |
| 02:53.58 | JademusSreg | Jman, it has potential, and a nice production value. |
| 02:54.03 | MrOp | 0.0 |
| 02:54.16 | JManV | yeah, there's still a long way to go |
| 02:54.42 | Skizot | :( |
| 02:54.55 | JademusSreg | Though I'll like the custom assets more if they could be made to fit consistently with the SC2 aesthetic. |
| 02:55.00 | JademusSreg | *I'd |
| 02:55.41 | Skizot | the juxtaposition of pixel based assets with the sc2 aesthetic is what makes it funny |
| 02:56.04 | JManV | yeah, a lot of those need the textures res'd up some |
| 02:56.11 | JManV | i just haven't gotten around to it yet |
| 02:56.39 | JManV | a lot of the textures are direct from the game, which is very low res |
| 02:56.50 | MrOp | i want to make a map called jiggle ball for sc2 |
| 02:56.52 | Skizot | hey :| |
| 02:56.59 | MrOp | hellow |
| 02:57.17 | JManV | the floors, for example, i did custom |
| 02:57.32 | JManV | and the walls to some degree |
| 02:57.45 | MrOp | J is your map on bent |
| 02:57.48 | JademusSreg | Blizzard's aesthetic for SC2 is like cartoon caricature realism. Detailed textures on models with strong profiles. |
| 02:57.50 | MrOp | b*net |
| 02:58.08 | JManV | op: no, it's not public |
| 02:58.12 | MrOp | o |
| 02:58.49 | JManV | i /might/ make a public demo available, but i don't want "beta" to define my project |
| 02:59.12 | JademusSreg | Man, this is pre-alpha. |
| 02:59.22 | JManV | yeah, i know |
| 02:59.22 | Skittles | wth is a diz file? |
| 02:59.25 | JManV | that's why i said demo |
| 02:59.27 | JademusSreg | Public would be silly, mrop. =) |
| 02:59.32 | JManV | not even alpha, just demo |
| 02:59.48 | JManV | there's nothing to do but explore for 5 minutes and leave |
| 03:00.01 | MrOp | i havent seen it |
| 03:00.04 | MrOp | >< |
| 03:00.10 | JManV | yes you have |
| 03:00.15 | MrOp | pokimon |
| 03:00.18 | MrOp | ? |
| 03:00.21 | JManV | yeah |
| 03:00.22 | MrOp | o |
| 03:00.27 | MrOp | lol |
| 03:00.40 | MrOp | i thought you where talking about that but it was really deep |
| 03:00.44 | JManV | it's not really playable without stats/levels |
| 03:00.44 | MrOp | so i wasnt sure lol |
| 03:00.46 | Skizot | well i wanna explore dammit. |
| 03:00.59 | JademusSreg | Explore my mp, Skiz. |
| 03:01.03 | JademusSreg | It goes on forever. |
| 03:01.06 | JManV | ... forevere! |
| 03:02.15 | JManV | basically the best way is just to let ppl who want to play it help me test |
| 03:02.33 | JManV | i'm actually adding a sound option right now op |
| 03:03.58 | Skizot | what is the light bridges path? |
| 03:06.50 | MrOp | huh |
| 03:07.05 | MrOp | you just paint it in the canyon |
| 03:07.16 | MrOp | the area that they are going to walk |
| 03:10.20 | Skizot | i am looking at the model |
| 03:10.32 | Skizot | trying to see if there's an option to make stuff pathable. |
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| 03:11.10 | MrOp | according to jade that is the only way to fake it |
| 03:11.12 | MrOp | :/ |
| 03:11.18 | MrOp | something with the m3 file |
| 03:11.49 | Skizot | that's what i was wanting to look at :P |
| 03:12.02 | Skizot | i THINK it might be possible with the current exporter. |
| 03:12.08 | MrOp | goodie |
| 03:12.10 | Skizot | just an option we haven't tried. |
| 03:12.11 | Skizot | :P |
| 03:12.21 | MrOp | i really dont want to have do all that extra work |
| 03:12.35 | MrOp | dude the glass looks so good though |
| 03:12.43 | MrOp | more ice but whatever |
| 03:13.02 | MrOp | maybe we could do more of a glass deal |
| 03:13.08 | MrOp | but i like that one alot |
| 03:21.08 | JademusSreg | That would be cool. |
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| 03:21.19 | JademusSreg | My modeller friend couldn't find the magic property. |
| 03:21.40 | Shawn|Rawr | Skittles! |
| 03:21.41 | Shawn|Rawr | You're back! |
| 03:21.49 | Skittles_ | True dat. |
| 03:23.09 | Shawn|Rawr | Were you doing something with my horrid writing? |
| 03:23.15 | JademusSreg | I opine that a how-to wiki would be preferable to "mini-tutorials", unless those mini-tutorials are in a how-to convenient wiki. |
| 03:23.22 | Dogmai | ~purl seen sixen |
| 03:23.27 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster #wowhead #wowuidev, last said: 'yup'. |
| 03:24.13 | Shawn|Rawr | You have a right to your opine and which wiki would i work in? |
| 03:24.28 | JademusSreg | Dunno. |
| 03:24.52 | JademusSreg | Just a thought. |
| 03:25.15 | Shawn|Rawr | I don't exactly like the sc2mapster one.. and the things that I am doing don't exactly fit inside a wiki |
| 03:25.31 | Shawn|Rawr | Like I plan on showing a desert strike spawning system |
| 03:25.44 | Shawn|Rawr | Easy for me, but a lot of people don't know how it works |
| 03:26.28 | Shawn|Rawr | I didn't even know how it worked until someone showed me an example |
| 03:27.07 | Skittles_ | me? |
| 03:27.11 | Skittles_ | I just did the intro for u |
| 03:27.13 | JademusSreg | Looks like it justs counts the buildings and spawns units. |
| 03:27.41 | Shawn|Rawr | Right.. Easier said than put into trigger |
| 03:27.50 | MrOp | hay onetwo are you around |
| 03:28.05 | MrOp | i think i found a fix for the camera smoothing deal |
| 03:28.27 | Shawn|Rawr | Especially once you have 100 buildings or so |
| 03:28.31 | MrOp | its not perfect but it works better |
| 03:31.40 | JademusSreg | Pretty easy to do. |
| 03:32.18 | JademusSreg | On map init, initialize a associated arrays of id for the buildings, ids for spawns, spawn counts. |
| 03:33.02 | JademusSreg | During spawn, you just iterate, count, multiply by spawn count, spawn units, issue orders to the unit group. |
| 03:33.40 | grim001 | wow cool... now the editor's showing random behavior when it comes to allowing a script to compile |
| 03:33.47 | JademusSreg | Of course, written out in a tutorial, it is going to take much longer than that to express so that people can follow along. |
| 03:33.55 | grim001 | on top of the already normal random stuff |
| 03:34.24 | JademusSreg | Random behavior of what sort? |
| 03:34.30 | Shawn|Rawr | Right. If I can make a video, it would be much easier.. Just need to get the mic working right. I'm thinking I'll just eliminate system sounds so i can adjust my mic volume after the fect |
| 03:34.41 | Shawn|Rawr | fact* |
| 03:34.41 | grim001 | putting a valid line of code in front of another valid line of code causes it to fail to compile |
| 03:35.44 | JademusSreg | Like i += 1; j -= 1; ? |
| 03:36.36 | grim001 | meh the behavior went away after enough attempts to save |
| 03:36.43 | JademusSreg | Weird. |
| 03:36.58 | JademusSreg | Oh, one thing I should point out. |
| 03:37.36 | JademusSreg | Attempting to save before that despicably slow and buggy syntax highlighter has finished will result in it not recognizing the changes you just made. |
| 03:38.16 | grim001 | attempting to copy and paste in a page or two of code will result in the editor freezing for a couple minutes |
| 03:38.22 | grim001 | i wish there were a way to turn the damn thing off |
| 03:39.39 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 03:39.41 | JademusSreg | Same. |
| 03:43.49 | grim001 | using all of these lower level systems is starting to become a headache already |
| 03:44.13 | JademusSreg | Of that I have no doubt. |
| 03:44.38 | grim001 | allocating and deallocating integers, allocating and deallocating custom value indexes |
| 03:45.06 | grim001 | if I just keep stacking the blocks up I'll eventually get to something that's "easy" to work with though |
| 03:46.28 | JademusSreg | Lego Theory |
| 03:46.30 | JademusSreg | =) |
| 03:48.07 | JademusSreg | Which reminds me, I'd be interested in seeing an implementation of Ln that can curtail the precision problems with fixed type, if possible. |
| 03:48.48 | grim001 | I think I've used Ln before somewhere |
| 03:48.52 | grim001 | maybe in my physics engine |
| 03:49.12 | grim001 | have you tried scaling the numbers involved |
| 03:50.38 | JademusSreg | Hm, nope. |
| 03:50.41 | JademusSreg | I considered it. |
| 03:51.06 | JademusSreg | But I wrote half a dozen implementations before I said "fuck it". |
| 03:51.25 | JademusSreg | Not like I need it currently. |
| 03:51.46 | JademusSreg | I was only interested at the time because I wanted an RNG algorithm. |
| 03:52.33 | JademusSreg | But the RNG I made with it was pretty shitty, so I just wrote an entirely different one,. |
| 03:53.32 | grim001 | pretty sure fixed type's main issue is rapidly losing precision when the number becomes wider than expected |
| 03:53.54 | grim001 | so scaling the useful digits out of the decimal area could fix it |
| 03:54.17 | grim001 | is SC2's random number generator so bad that you need a different one? |
| 03:54.43 | JademusSreg | Naw, I needed it for a procedural generator that could produce repeatable results for a given set of seeds. |
| 03:55.26 | grim001 | the new patch just added a function to set the seed of the random number generator |
| 03:55.29 | grim001 | dunno if that would help |
| 03:55.58 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I considered it for a fraction of a second, but it wouldn't help. |
| 03:58.22 | JademusSreg | Let me find the link to the map. I'd show you the wiki with the guts of the code, if you're interested. Nothing terribly sophisticated, and there are some bits of old code in the generators, but it sholud read well enough. |
| 04:00.39 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/SuperMapPOC.SC2Map |
| 04:00.56 | JademusSreg | You move your unit to the map edges, and it loads the connecting map in the supermap. |
| 04:01.13 | Skittles_ | nice |
| 04:01.15 | JademusSreg | The contents of which are procedurally generated using seed values derived from X and Y. |
| 04:01.34 | Skittles_ | haha |
| 04:01.38 | Skittles_ | so u really did feel my pain |
| 04:01.50 | Skittles_ | about terrain generation not being in the sc2 editor |
| 04:02.00 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 04:02.06 | Skittles_ | Xd, I want it so bad. |
| 04:02.57 | JademusSreg | Well, either beg Blizzard or take a more political route and aid in organizing some form of effective protest. =) |
| 04:07.28 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I'm contemplating if I should do anything with it or work on something more interesting. |
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| 04:09.11 | RyanWin | what data field sets the firing point of a weapon? |
| 04:09.14 | RyanWin | always forget that one |
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| 04:10.42 | JademusSreg | I cannot recall off the top of my head.w |
| 04:12.14 | Shawn|Rawr | its launch attachment something |
| 04:12.22 | Shawn|Rawr | i already informed him in pm lol |
| 04:12.36 | RyanWin | launch attachment query? |
| 04:12.41 | Shawn|Rawr | sure |
| 04:12.55 | Shawn|Rawr | ya. |
| 04:13.10 | Shawn|Rawr | And then you just look on the model in previewer if you dont know which one you need |
| 04:13.21 | RyanWin | hmm |
| 04:14.05 | Shawn|Rawr | knowing you though, it's probably something more complex than it sounds |
| 04:15.12 | RyanWin | sob its not working |
| 04:15.18 | RyanWin | I did it on my hyperion map |
| 04:15.21 | RyanWin | ill go look there |
| 04:22.12 | Technomancer | it must be nice, having all this free-time to make maps :( |
| 04:23.04 | JademusSreg | Naw, I have relatively little free time. I raise my daughters full-time. |
| 04:24.08 | Technomancer | could be worse dude |
| 04:24.43 | JademusSreg | Haha. That goes without saying. |
| 04:25.27 | Technomancer | :P |
| 04:26.13 | Technomancer | im completely bogged with schoolwork, no time to make maps. i only stay pasive on the irc so i can pick up whatever tips i can |
| 04:26.24 | Technomancer | for when i got freetime 2-3 months from now |
| 04:28.24 | JademusSreg | That's a hell of a wait. |
| 04:30.09 | JademusSreg | I think I'll give making tiberium a shot. |
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| 04:37.42 | RyanWin | wow this is retarded |
| 04:38.05 | RyanWin | AMFilterWeapon fallback center should allow the ghost to fire a burst lazer from the tip of his damn rifle right? |
| 04:38.12 | RyanWin | or am i crazy? |
| 04:39.21 | JademusSreg | Beyond my knowledge. |
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| 04:52.38 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm bakc |
| 04:53.42 | JademusSreg | I'm still here. |
| 04:53.58 | Dogmai | ~purl seen sixen |
| 04:54.00 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster #wowhead #wowuidev, last said: 'yup'. |
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| 04:54.31 | Dogmai | ~purl fuck you |
| 04:54.31 | purl | Oh, dogmai, Any time, big boy. |
| 04:59.27 | Technomancer | RyanWin all one has to do is look in 3ds at the model itself and see where all the ref points are |
| 04:59.36 | Technomancer | im sure it can be easily found |
| 04:59.52 | Technomancer | or is it a dif issue than just finding the point u wanna use? |
| 05:02.03 | Shawn|Rawr | Where is it firing from? |
| 05:02.28 | RyanWin | its feet |
| 05:02.35 | Shawn|Rawr | And the launch attachment is set right? |
| 05:02.46 | RyanWin | yes ive tried AMWeapon |
| 05:02.49 | Technomancer | ok i can find the point for ya... |
| 05:02.50 | RyanWin | and AMWeapon00 |
| 05:02.59 | RyanWin | and center as fallback |
| 05:03.01 | Shawn|Rawr | Then one of the projectile fields is messed up |
| 05:03.02 | RyanWin | should work that way |
| 05:03.06 | RyanWin | maybe |
| 05:03.12 | RyanWin | its a duplicated weaith burst lazer |
| 05:03.17 | RyanWin | wraith* |
| 05:03.23 | RyanWin | but im pretty sure I dupped it right |
| 05:04.38 | Skittles_ | So how come engines get better? Wouldn't just the players machine get better? I mean like, wc3 you have a lot less poligons before lag starts compared to sc2. |
| 05:06.07 | Technomancer | RyanWin im finding hte point for you |
| 05:06.43 | Shawn|Rawr | Its not the attachment thing.. its a diff field.. he is using one hes used before |
| 05:07.20 | Shawn|Rawr | Check the actor's missile field |
| 05:07.27 | Shawn|Rawr | the attack acotr |
| 05:07.29 | Shawn|Rawr | actor* |
| 05:10.31 | Shawn|Rawr | RyanWin: Let me know you're paying attention lol |
| 05:10.32 | Technomancer | Would it not be Ref_Weapon? |
| 05:10.41 | RyanWin | im looking |
| 05:10.45 | RyanWin | ah this may be it one sec |
| 05:10.59 | Shawn|Rawr | If the missile wasn't set right, then that is it |
| 05:11.34 | Shawn|Rawr | or at least one of the problems |
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| 05:18.52 | Shawn|Rawr | sure takes awhile for him to respond |
| 05:19.38 | Skittles_ | local tint color can only be done for the owner of the unit? |
| 05:20.03 | Skittles_ | Shawn | Rawr you know? |
| 05:20.17 | Skittles_ | Shawn|Rawr u kno? |
| 05:22.18 | onetwo | man i need a server farm |
| 05:22.26 | onetwo | to render off my tutorials while i work on other stuff |
| 05:22.30 | onetwo | one comp isnt enough |
| 05:25.03 | Skittles_ | mm |
| 05:25.56 | onetwo | the great thing is i can do unlimited videos now |
| 05:25.59 | onetwo | so i can upload/render overnight |
| 05:26.02 | onetwo | rather than 9 parts 10 mins long |
| 05:26.04 | onetwo | but still |
| 05:26.24 | Skittles_ | hmm |
| 05:26.32 | Skittles_ | You should totally give me a shout out. <3 |
| 05:26.37 | onetwo | 1. record tut without any big mistakes 2. edit it together, autotune voice etc, 3. render to AVI, 4. easyh264 to compressed youtube format 5. upload to youtube |
| 05:26.44 | onetwo | its like a 3 day process per tut |
| 05:27.05 | Skittles_ | lol, I like how I got ignored. :p |
| 05:27.20 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:27.21 | onetwo | for what |
| 05:27.39 | Shawn|Rawr | I never tested it |
| 05:27.48 | Skittles_ | hmm |
| 05:27.48 | Skittles_ | idk |
| 05:27.54 | Skittles_ | i just like shoutouts. :p |
| 05:28.09 | Bounty | Got a question guys |
| 05:28.12 | onetwo | you think i should do donations? |
| 05:28.15 | Bounty | how do you prevent a unit from resetting? |
| 05:28.22 | onetwo | i put a donations button on my page for 2 weeks, but never talked about it, and it got 0$ |
| 05:28.30 | onetwo | maybe i need to be vocal |
| 05:28.31 | Bounty | like he attacks but sometimes he walks back to his starting point... |
| 05:28.33 | onetwo | gimme money and ill do shoutouts |
| 05:28.36 | Bounty | anyone know hot to fix that? |
| 05:28.41 | Bounty | how* |
| 05:28.46 | onetwo | uh bounty in beta we had a follow range flag |
| 05:28.49 | onetwo | err field |
| 05:28.50 | onetwo | they took it out |
| 05:28.52 | onetwo | i dont know |
| 05:29.02 | onetwo | acquire path limit |
| 05:29.03 | onetwo | was it |
| 05:29.31 | Skittles_ | lol |
| 05:29.32 | Skittles_ | Sure. |
| 05:29.35 | Skittles_ | I'll give u a penny! |
| 05:29.39 | Bounty | .... why the fuck would they take it out |
| 05:30.41 | Bounty | so basically what you're saying is im fucked lol |
| 05:30.59 | Skittles_ | why isn't the unit is highlighted event not working? |
| 05:31.51 | Bounty | This is fucking bullshit |
| 05:32.02 | Bounty | There has to be a way to do that... its common sense shit |
| 05:32.19 | onetwo | not sure :/ |
| 05:32.22 | onetwo | maybe |
| 05:33.00 | Skittles_ | oh u gotta turn the state on first |
| 05:33.01 | Skittles_ | weird |
| 05:34.00 | Bounty | Figures, i return to mapping.. announce a project and 2 days later i find out i cant finish it bc blizzard took shit out of the editor? lol |
| 05:34.39 | Skittles_ | excuses! Find a way around it! =D |
| 05:34.59 | Bounty | wtf do u think im asking lol |
| 05:35.13 | Bounty | if nobody on mapster hasnt figured out something as stupid as this then it cant be done |
| 05:35.32 | Bounty | which completely ruins my map |
| 05:35.57 | Skittles_ | what is it? |
| 05:36.07 | Bounty | what is what? |
| 05:36.12 | onetwo | you could trigger it up bounty |
| 05:36.12 | Bounty | the problem? |
| 05:36.21 | onetwo | like do some advanced trigger that orders them to directly attack said unit |
| 05:36.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:36.28 | onetwo | you can run on the event of a unit aacquires a target |
| 05:36.30 | Skittles_ | yeah the problem |
| 05:36.34 | onetwo | order acquiring unit to attack target |
| 05:36.54 | Bounty | i just dont understand how he is LOSING his target |
| 05:37.01 | Bounty | so i dont think that would work |
| 05:37.12 | Bounty | if he has the target, why is he resetting lol |
| 05:39.59 | Bounty | oh and i love how hes attacking units that have FUCKING LOWER PRIORITY |
| 05:40.03 | Bounty | wtf |
| 05:40.10 | Bounty | its like im not supposed to finish this map |
| 05:41.03 | RyanWin | for god sakes bounty finish a map!!! |
| 05:41.05 | RyanWin | :D |
| 05:41.08 | onetwo | FUCK BOUNTY FINISH IT |
| 05:41.09 | onetwo | COME ON |
| 05:41.11 | onetwo | AIDHASDHaUHaHD |
| 05:41.21 | Bounty | then tell me how the fuck to fix this |
| 05:41.44 | RyanWin | attacking units with lower priority |
| 05:41.47 | RyanWin | umm |
| 05:41.53 | RyanWin | do you want ti to be attacked at all? |
| 05:42.01 | RyanWin | the one with lower |
| 05:42.12 | Bounty | well the idea was to have every unit with the same priority |
| 05:42.19 | Bounty | so you could swap aggro |
| 05:42.20 | RyanWin | hm |
| 05:42.22 | Bounty | it worked in beta |
| 05:42.26 | Bounty | so wtf |
| 05:45.31 | Dogmai | onetwo! |
| 05:45.33 | Dogmai | wheres sixen |
| 05:46.22 | Bounty | anyone come up with an idea to fix it yet? |
| 05:50.41 | Bounty | wow... |
| 05:50.55 | Bounty | i set a units attack priority to 1 and he STILL fucking attacks her over me |
| 05:50.57 | Bounty | and mine is at 20 |
| 05:51.13 | Skittles_ | maybe lower priority = first target |
| 05:52.03 | Bounty | then how come he did the same thign when the priority numbers were the same |
| 05:52.52 | Skittles_ | idk? |
| 05:52.52 | Skittles_ | He dislikes ur face |
| 05:53.29 | Bounty | .... |
| 05:53.38 | Skittles_ | =D |
| 05:53.40 | Skittles_ | brb |
| 05:56.53 | Skittles_ | back |
| 05:57.05 | onetwo | check offensiveness of the unit too |
| 05:57.08 | onetwo | default acquire leve |
| 05:57.10 | onetwo | and damage response |
| 05:57.13 | onetwo | may affect priority |
| 05:59.14 | Bounty | what? |
| 05:59.39 | onetwo | Behavior - response |
| 05:59.50 | onetwo | Combat - default acquire level |
| 05:59.53 | Bounty | yeah its on Offensive |
| 05:59.56 | onetwo | hmm |
| 05:59.58 | onetwo | check all units |
| 06:00.08 | onetwo | eg how your uinits avoid workers |
| 06:00.10 | onetwo | units* |
| 06:00.19 | Bounty | well i just discovered something |
| 06:00.27 | Bounty | i made 2 probes as dummies with a priority level of 1 |
| 06:00.30 | Bounty | and he doesnt attack them |
| 06:00.37 | onetwo | worker flag too |
| 06:00.45 | Bounty | check the worker flag? |
| 06:01.36 | onetwo | uncheck |
| 06:01.39 | onetwo | for untis you want targeted |
| 06:01.41 | Bounty | it is unchecked |
| 06:01.43 | onetwo | k |
| 06:01.45 | Bounty | the unit im talking about is Kerrigan |
| 06:01.47 | onetwo | hmm |
| 06:01.50 | Bounty | Zeratul ALWAYS goes for her |
| 06:01.55 | Bounty | even if im 10x closer |
| 06:02.00 | Bounty | and damaging him |
| 06:02.13 | onetwo | heroic flag may affect it |
| 06:02.24 | Bounty | tahts unchecked |
| 06:02.31 | onetwo | hmm |
| 06:02.48 | onetwo | check Priority in Model |
| 06:02.51 | onetwo | of units |
| 06:02.54 | onetwo | i dont know if that affects it |
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| 06:03.37 | onetwo | but basically make sure all units you want targeted equal all dont have worker flag, all have default acquire level as offensive (or the same if a diff setting), all have attack ability and a weapon |
| 06:03.43 | onetwo | all same attack priority |
| 06:04.16 | onetwo | AI - Tactical AI Filterscheck these on kerrigan |
| 06:04.17 | onetwo | too |
| 06:04.29 | Bounty | just tested the model priority.. didnt work |
| 06:04.32 | onetwo | k |
| 06:04.35 | Bounty | check what on kerrigan? |
| 06:04.40 | onetwo | that field |
| 06:04.44 | onetwo | AI tactical filters |
| 06:04.47 | onetwo | should be gray |
| 06:04.49 | onetwo | for all untis |
| 06:04.50 | onetwo | units |
| 06:05.01 | Bounty | what do you mean |
| 06:05.06 | Bounty | greyed out |
| 06:05.10 | onetwo | as in the field |
| 06:05.12 | onetwo | is not green |
| 06:05.13 | onetwo | or blue |
| 06:05.15 | onetwo | itsj ust gray |
| 06:05.21 | Bounty | oh ok |
| 06:05.22 | onetwo | meaning unchanged from default sc2unit |
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| 06:05.39 | Bounty | yeah its default |
| 06:05.44 | onetwo | k |
| 06:05.46 | onetwo | also in unit - flags |
| 06:05.52 | onetwo | none of the AI flags should be checked off |
| 06:05.55 | onetwo | for any unit i think |
| 06:06.09 | Bounty | none of them are |
| 06:06.11 | onetwo | k |
| 06:06.12 | Bounty | i didnt touch anything like that |
| 06:06.21 | onetwo | you never know what default gam |
| 06:06.22 | onetwo | game |
| 06:06.23 | onetwo | did though |
| 06:06.29 | onetwo | hero flag unchecked too right? |
| 06:06.30 | onetwo | in there |
| 06:06.32 | Bounty | yep |
| 06:06.32 | onetwo | for all units |
| 06:07.10 | onetwo | hmm then i dont know |
| 06:08.13 | Shawn|Rawr | the great master onetwo does not know! |
| 06:08.20 | Shawn|Rawr | O__O |
| 06:08.51 | Bounty | ok so tahts GG then? |
| 06:08.58 | Shawn|Rawr | I don |
| 06:09.06 | Shawn|Rawr | I don't know. I don't know the problem |
| 06:09.17 | Bounty | Bc if thats GG ill jsut go back into retirement lol |
| 06:09.31 | Bounty | i alrdy put way to much effort into this map and thats bullshit that something like this ruins it |
| 06:10.20 | Shawn|Rawr | Hmm.. I wish I wasn't leaving in a min, I'd try to help. Don |
| 06:10.25 | Shawn|Rawr | Don't Give Up! |
| 06:10.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:10.51 | Bounty | watch me =P |
| 06:10.55 | Shawn|Rawr | NO!!! |
| 06:11.05 | Bounty | i just went over 9 hours straight doing the UI |
| 06:11.10 | Bounty | i go to work on the first boss |
| 06:11.12 | Bounty | and now this |
| 06:11.21 | Shawn|Rawr | I don't even know what "this" entails |
| 06:11.34 | Bounty | Zeratul keeps ONLY going after Kerrigan |
| 06:11.37 | Bounty | no matter waht i do |
| 06:11.42 | Bounty | Attack Priority levels are NOT working |
| 06:11.53 | Shawn|Rawr | He obviously just hates her guts |
| 06:11.58 | Shawn|Rawr | What is wrong with that? |
| 06:12.17 | Shawn|Rawr | That is very ironic though. |
| 06:12.22 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 06:12.54 | onetwo | hmm Bounty one thing i sometimes end up doing |
| 06:12.54 | Shawn|Rawr | Jade understande |
| 06:12.55 | onetwo | is just |
| 06:12.58 | Shawn|Rawr | understands* |
| 06:13.00 | onetwo | remaking broken units |
| 06:13.07 | onetwo | from standard units |
| 06:13.10 | onetwo | eg duplicate zealot |
| 06:13.12 | onetwo | make zeratul |
| 06:13.17 | onetwo | duplicate zergling, make kerrigan from it |
| 06:13.20 | onetwo | just change actor up |
| 06:13.21 | onetwo | a bit |
| 06:13.39 | Bounty | meh |
| 06:14.36 | Shawn|Rawr | If you do give up, upload it on mapster and send me the link |
| 06:14.42 | Shawn|Rawr | :D |
| 06:14.46 | Bounty | uh no =P |
| 06:14.59 | Shawn|Rawr | D: |
| 06:15.06 | *** join/#sc2mapster AgentPaper (4bd2af7e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.210.175.126) |
| 06:15.09 | JademusSreg | Listening to MSI and working on terrain. |
| 06:15.18 | JademusSreg | Very soothing. |
| 06:15.20 | Shawn|Rawr | Did you know that paper towels are amazing? |
| 06:15.30 | Shawn|Rawr | They are so helpful to my everyday ife |
| 06:16.44 | JademusSreg | Don't forget to bring a (paper) towel, |
| 06:16.53 | onetwo | brilliant |
| 06:16.53 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:16.55 | Skittles_ | what you do in the privacy of your own room is your own business shawn... |
| 06:17.18 | Shawn|Rawr | No one understands what its like |
| 06:17.23 | Shawn|Rawr | :[ |
| 06:17.59 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm so bored waiting to leave |
| 06:18.15 | Shawn|Rawr | I could make a tug map in the time its taking him to get ready |
| 06:18.46 | onetwo | lol |
| 06:18.48 | onetwo | so true |
| 06:18.59 | Bounty | .... |
| 06:19.02 | Bounty | so |
| 06:19.13 | Bounty | i got rid of Kerrigan (Tyrador version) |
| 06:19.15 | onetwo | the TUG part |
| 06:19.16 | Bounty | put in the char version |
| 06:19.19 | Bounty | and |
| 06:19.22 | Bounty | same thign |
| 06:19.25 | Skittles_ | where u going at 1 am or so? |
| 06:19.38 | Shawn|Rawr | its 10pm and I'm going to go buy food for me |
| 06:19.43 | Skittles_ | lol |
| 06:19.43 | Shawn|Rawr | Like.. grocery food |
| 06:20.05 | Skittles_ | two hours behind me... so you must be canadian? |
| 06:20.07 | Skittles_ | brit? |
| 06:20.42 | Shawn|Rawr | Las Vegas NV |
| 06:21.11 | Shawn|Rawr | The one in movies a lot |
| 06:21.15 | Shawn|Rawr | Big shiny place |
| 06:21.41 | Shawn|Rawr | gtg.. afk |
| 06:21.57 | Skittles_ | l8er |
| 06:22.07 | Skittles_ | WAIT |
| 06:22.10 | Shawn|Rawr | what? |
| 06:22.11 | Skittles_ | PEOPLE LIVE THERE? Lies. |
| 06:22.27 | Shawn|Rawr | We don't live on the strip |
| 06:22.34 | Shawn|Rawr | just the 30 miles around it |
| 06:22.41 | Skittles_ | no |
| 06:22.44 | Skittles_ | u die on the strip. |
| 06:22.49 | Skittles_ | Idk what u do 30 miles away from it! |
| 06:23.20 | Shawn|Rawr | sleep |
| 06:24.36 | Skittles_ | i c |
| 06:25.47 | Skittles_ | bounty |
| 06:25.51 | Skittles_ | check the news page |
| 06:26.12 | Bounty | lovely |
| 06:26.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:26.20 | Skittles_ | lol |
| 06:26.21 | Bounty | well i do have good news kinda |
| 06:26.29 | Skittles_ | NOW u gotta finish it |
| 06:26.30 | Skittles_ | lol |
| 06:26.31 | Bounty | the problem is somewhere in the unit section |
| 06:26.35 | Bounty | help me find it |
| 06:26.38 | Bounty | bc what i did was |
| 06:26.38 | Skittles_ | uuh |
| 06:26.44 | Bounty | i copy pasted everything from the probe |
| 06:26.47 | Bounty | and pasted it to kerrigan |
| 06:26.49 | Bounty | and it worked lol |
| 06:26.51 | Skittles_ | what's the problem? |
| 06:26.53 | Skittles_ | Something about them attacking u? |
| 06:26.54 | Bounty | so its something under units |
| 06:26.57 | Bounty | yeah |
| 06:27.01 | Skittles_ | or a aggro sytem? |
| 06:27.04 | Bounty | Zeratul ALWAYS goes for kerrigan and u cant get him off her |
| 06:27.05 | Skittles_ | or whats going on |
| 06:27.05 | Skittles_ | lol |
| 06:27.11 | Skittles_ | hmm |
| 06:27.14 | Bounty | even if you have Attack Priority the same |
| 06:27.21 | Skittles_ | why not use a trigger to order him? |
| 06:27.56 | Bounty | bc its something in the data fields |
| 06:27.58 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:28.01 | Skittles_ | Xd |
| 06:28.05 | Bounty | that whole unit resetting thing yeah |
| 06:28.07 | Bounty | i can fix that in triggers |
| 06:28.08 | Bounty | but this |
| 06:28.11 | Bounty | its a data problem |
| 06:28.13 | Skittles_ | reseting? |
| 06:28.16 | Bounty | yeah |
| 06:28.16 | Skittles_ | Why do that? |
| 06:28.18 | Bounty | if u run away from him |
| 06:28.22 | Skittles_ | Just give him an order |
| 06:28.25 | Bounty | and if he doesnt hit u for a certain period of time |
| 06:28.31 | Skittles_ | to attack a random unit nearby |
| 06:28.51 | Skittles_ | give that unit a buff, unit with buff dies, order zeru to find a new random target |
| 06:29.06 | Bounty | i cant do that lol |
| 06:29.10 | Skittles_ | y? |
| 06:29.14 | Bounty | bc thats lame |
| 06:29.16 | Bounty | to random |
| 06:29.23 | Skittles_ | u wanted random? |
| 06:29.23 | Bounty | you should be able to get him off u |
| 06:29.27 | Bounty | no |
| 06:29.32 | Bounty | i want players to have control |
| 06:29.37 | Bounty | which is what attack priority should do |
| 06:29.37 | Skittles_ | how would u go about it? |
| 06:29.44 | Bounty | if you have every units attack priority the same |
| 06:29.52 | Bounty | he switches targets more often |
| 06:30.00 | Skittles_ | no no, im saying, how would u get him off u? |
| 06:30.10 | Bounty | like ur running |
| 06:30.17 | Bounty | and u need him off u |
| 06:30.19 | Bounty | i could run him to him |
| 06:30.20 | Bounty | hit him |
| 06:30.21 | Bounty | and get him on me |
| 06:30.30 | Bounty | thats how the attack priority system is supposed to work lol |
| 06:30.39 | Skittles_ | mm |
| 06:30.51 | Skittles_ | i think it also considers hp |
| 06:31.04 | Bounty | nope |
| 06:31.13 | Skittles_ | else, consider 1 zealot surrounded by zerglings |
| 06:31.19 | Skittles_ | he would be bobbing all over the place |
| 06:31.35 | Bounty | btw, i love how sixen said the combo system is from win the crowd =P |
| 06:31.43 | Bounty | which it isnt lol |
| 06:31.47 | Skittles_ | mgmm |
| 06:31.48 | Skittles_ | mhmm |
| 06:32.00 | Skittles_ | <-- never played win the crowd |
| 06:32.37 | Bounty | only my testers did |
| 06:32.45 | Skittles_ | oh |
| 06:32.52 | Skittles_ | geez, thanks for the invite! |
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| 06:33.37 | Bounty | im sure i tried to invite u many times lol |
| 06:35.31 | Skittles_ | I was never logged on. :p |
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| 06:40.54 | Vexal | i still can't understand anything houndofbaskerville is saying |
| 06:40.58 | Vexal | not even a little. |
| 06:45.51 | Bounty | Heres a challenge for you guys |
| 06:46.03 | Bounty | i found the problem :) |
| 06:46.23 | Bounty | If i remove the "attack" ability for Kerrigan Zeratul attacks everyone properly and not just her |
| 06:46.26 | Bounty | explain that shit lol |
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| 06:50.03 | Bounty | seriously i need someone to help me with this or i cant even work on the map |
| 06:51.37 | Skittles_ | ? |
| 06:51.41 | Skittles_ | Didn't u say u fixed it? |
| 06:51.41 | JademusSreg | Pardon. I've been terraining. |
| 06:51.44 | JademusSreg | What's the issue? |
| 06:52.07 | Bounty | no i didnt fix it |
| 06:52.11 | Bounty | but i know where the problem lies |
| 06:52.13 | Bounty | the problem is |
| 06:52.33 | Bounty | you know the abilities section in the unit data editor? |
| 06:52.34 | Bounty | well |
| 06:52.45 | Bounty | whenever Kerrigan has the Attack ability EVERYONE attacks her |
| 06:52.48 | Bounty | no matter what |
| 06:53.02 | JademusSreg | Interesting. |
| 06:53.22 | JademusSreg | I wonder if she has a behavior or a special attack ability that forces such an effect. |
| 06:53.44 | Bounty | well thats what im hoping you could help me figure out =P |
| 06:55.22 | JademusSreg | Normal attack ability. |
| 06:55.37 | Bounty | ? |
| 06:55.58 | JademusSreg | Her attack priority is 20. I assume that's not an issue? |
| 06:56.08 | Bounty | i have it set to 1 |
| 06:56.10 | Bounty | and mine is at 20 |
| 06:56.16 | Bounty | she still gets attacked |
| 06:56.20 | Bounty | and i get ignored lol |
| 06:56.31 | Bounty | i tested it and it only fixes when i remove the standard attack ability from her |
| 06:56.36 | JademusSreg | Did you give her a custom weapon or modify her current weapons? |
| 06:56.40 | Bounty | no |
| 06:57.14 | JademusSreg | So she's using her normal weapons? |
| 06:57.35 | Bounty | yes |
| 06:57.40 | Bounty | this is just a default kerrigan unit |
| 06:57.48 | Bounty | i didnt change anything except her Life |
| 06:57.52 | JademusSreg | Alright. Great. |
| 06:57.55 | JademusSreg | Char version, yes? |
| 06:57.58 | Bounty | no |
| 06:58.02 | Bounty | Tyra version |
| 06:58.06 | Bounty | it does it on both versions though |
| 07:01.19 | Bounty | any ideas? |
| 07:02.19 | JademusSreg | None. It's quite bizarre. I know it's possible to have effects that issue orders to other units, but I don't see that going on. |
| 07:02.55 | Skittles_ | mm |
| 07:02.57 | Skittles_ | to many threads |
| 07:03.05 | Skittles_ | so in other words, I kinda just broke the game? |
| 07:03.06 | Skittles_ | lol |
| 07:03.13 | Bounty | yep |
| 07:03.20 | Bounty | so |
| 07:03.22 | Skittles_ | all in 1 trigger too. Yummy. |
| 07:03.26 | Bounty | am i f*cked Jademus? |
| 07:03.35 | JademusSreg | Not really. |
| 07:04.01 | Skittles_ | how do u give a unit a timed life? |
| 07:04.02 | JademusSreg | Worst case scenario, she uses abilities instead of attacking. |
| 07:04.13 | JademusSreg | Behavior, iirc |
| 07:04.14 | Bounty | So you know the solution? If not then i am indeed f*cked lol |
| 07:04.17 | Skittles_ | iirc? |
| 07:04.22 | JademusSreg | Buff class |
| 07:04.29 | Skittles_ | kk |
| 07:04.31 | Skittles_ | ty |
| 07:04.39 | Bounty | she does have a behavior called Searching |
| 07:04.41 | Bounty | its a buff |
| 07:04.47 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 07:04.49 | JademusSreg | I see this. |
| 07:04.57 | JademusSreg | Not sure what it does exactly. |
| 07:05.03 | Bounty | how do i remove it |
| 07:05.56 | JademusSreg | Working on figuring out how it all fits together,. |
| 07:06.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster FockeWulf (434dc82a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.67.77.200.42) |
| 07:06.38 | FockeWulf | Boy the shit I miss when I don't look at a trigger function for 4 months >.< |
| 07:06.42 | JademusSreg | But it does appear that Search is the cause. |
| 07:06.47 | JademusSreg | Congrats. |
| 07:07.02 | Bounty | so how do i get rid of it |
| 07:07.20 | JademusSreg | Search has a dummy impact damage effect that is pinging all of the units for 0 damage, apparently. |
| 07:07.26 | JademusSreg | Talk about aggro, |
| 07:07.30 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:07.34 | Bounty | so |
| 07:07.37 | *** join/#sc2mapster Sevenix (pheonix@knatte.hep.lu.se) |
| 07:07.38 | Bounty | how do i get rid of it? =P |
| 07:07.53 | JademusSreg | Remove her Search ability. |
| 07:08.07 | Bounty | that doesnt work |
| 07:08.11 | Bounty | i told u its the Attack ability |
| 07:08.30 | Bounty | try it ull see |
| 07:08.30 | FockeWulf | Does the attack do a search area effect though? |
| 07:08.32 | FockeWulf | and sup bounty |
| 07:08.40 | Bounty | Hello |
| 07:08.50 | Bounty | have a look for urself Focke |
| 07:08.54 | Bounty | Kerrigan Tyrador |
| 07:09.01 | Bounty | causing a problem lol |
| 07:09.10 | FockeWulf | 1.3 editor? |
| 07:09.12 | FockeWulf | or current? |
| 07:09.23 | Bounty | what? |
| 07:09.25 | Bounty | oh |
| 07:09.27 | Bounty | uh |
| 07:09.28 | Bounty | current? |
| 07:09.32 | Bounty | this isnt the PTR editor |
| 07:09.34 | FockeWulf | the 1.3 editor is supposedly out alrady |
| 07:09.37 | FockeWulf | ah ok |
| 07:09.46 | Bounty | but i doubt it makes a differance |
| 07:10.43 | JademusSreg | Have you tried replacing her weapons? I don't see why the weapons wouldf cause an issue, but there might be something non-obvious somewhere in the object chain. |
| 07:10.56 | FockeWulf | ok theres a razor blade search |
| 07:11.01 | FockeWulf | and a ability search |
| 07:11.03 | FockeWulf | i mean |
| 07:11.05 | FockeWulf | razor swarm |
| 07:11.22 | JademusSreg | I suggested there. Bounty believes it is related to Attack. |
| 07:11.30 | Bounty | bc it is lol |
| 07:11.30 | FockeWulf | Since when did they add variable input for actors?> |
| 07:11.31 | JademusSreg | Since removing it relieves the problem. |
| 07:11.34 | FockeWulf | good god finally |
| 07:11.35 | Bounty | test it for urself |
| 07:11.44 | Bounty | i have all the abilities removed except Stop, Move and attack |
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| 07:11.49 | Bounty | it fixes when i remove attack |
| 07:12.00 | FockeWulf | yes because one of the attacks has a search area..... |
| 07:12.15 | Bounty | so how do i get rid of it |
| 07:12.23 | FockeWulf | find where it is a relink it all |
| 07:12.31 | FockeWulf | just follow her weapons down the line |
| 07:12.41 | Bounty | huh? |
| 07:12.47 | JademusSreg | Try replacing the weapons with something generic, like zergling Claws. |
| 07:12.51 | FockeWulf | ok a weapon has an effect |
| 07:12.57 | Bounty | i dont know how to do anything of this |
| 07:12.58 | FockeWulf | which has another effect |
| 07:12.59 | FockeWulf | lol |
| 07:13.01 | Bounty | i just want to get rid of this shit |
| 07:13.02 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:13.10 | Bounty | how hard can that be to exlain? =P |
| 07:13.11 | FockeWulf | well gotta learn if you want to get rid of this |
| 07:13.13 | Bounty | explain* |
| 07:13.24 | FockeWulf | and you should have learned the data editor :P |
| 07:13.33 | Bounty | why cant u just tell me how to remove this |
| 07:13.38 | Bounty | thats all i need to know lol |
| 07:13.45 | FockeWulf | I was telling you >.< |
| 07:13.52 | FockeWulf | ok in the units tab |
| 07:13.56 | FockeWulf | select the unit |
| 07:14.07 | FockeWulf | and in the bottom left windows |
| 07:14.13 | FockeWulf | theres everything thats linked to that unit |
| 07:14.18 | FockeWulf | go all the way down to the weapons |
| 07:14.21 | FockeWulf | pick the first one |
| 07:14.30 | FockeWulf | right click view linked object |
| 07:14.34 | FockeWulf | look at the effect(s) |
| 07:14.44 | Bounty | ok |
| 07:14.46 | FockeWulf | if any of them are a "search area" effect type |
| 07:14.49 | FockeWulf | you need to get rid of it |
| 07:14.56 | FockeWulf | but |
| 07:15.00 | Bounty | nope, no search areas |
| 07:15.04 | FockeWulf | search area is for things like splash |
| 07:15.31 | Bounty | both of her attacks have a splash |
| 07:15.43 | Bounty | but no search |
| 07:17.53 | FockeWulf | well shes got an attack priority of 20 |
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| 07:17.56 | FockeWulf | which is hella high |
| 07:18.02 | Bounty | thats not the problem |
| 07:18.05 | Bounty | i have that set to 1 |
| 07:18.07 | Bounty | and mine to 20 |
| 07:18.10 | Bounty | she still gets attacked |
| 07:18.11 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:18.28 | FockeWulf | do you know roughly the radius? |
| 07:18.36 | Bounty | radius of? |
| 07:18.57 | FockeWulf | ok if you walk her a square at a time |
| 07:19.04 | FockeWulf | towards w/e is attacking her |
| 07:19.22 | FockeWulf | give me a rough radius that she agros |
| 07:19.34 | Bounty | y? |
| 07:19.38 | FockeWulf | you know bounty? since we're going soo many similar things we might as well work together :P |
| 07:19.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:19.46 | FockeWulf | ok well first |
| 07:19.52 | FockeWulf | does she walk right in without attacking? |
| 07:20.12 | Bounty | yeah, she actually just stands there and he just goes for her |
| 07:20.19 | FockeWulf | who is he? |
| 07:20.23 | Bounty | Zeratul |
| 07:20.51 | FockeWulf | try ditching the psiconic and heroic |
| 07:20.54 | FockeWulf | flags |
| 07:21.06 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:21.08 | Bounty | im telling u |
| 07:21.11 | Bounty | i did all of that |
| 07:21.16 | Bounty | and the only thing that fixed it |
| 07:21.21 | Bounty | was removing the attack ability |
| 07:21.30 | Bounty | the standard "Attack" ability |
| 07:21.30 | FockeWulf | ok so something is linked in there |
| 07:22.23 | FockeWulf | removing the attack ability and not the weapons? |
| 07:22.31 | Bounty | yep |
| 07:22.36 | Bounty | just the standard attack ability |
| 07:22.40 | Bounty | that every unit in the gameh as lol |
| 07:22.47 | FockeWulf | ok first did you try duplicating the whole thing? |
| 07:22.52 | Bounty | ? |
| 07:23.00 | Bounty | duplicating what |
| 07:23.16 | FockeWulf | Ok if you use the stock what is in the editor units you are going to run into issues at some point or another |
| 07:23.25 | FockeWulf | the best thing to do is duplicate everything you need |
| 07:23.27 | FockeWulf | relink it |
| 07:23.35 | FockeWulf | and now you have something you can play with |
| 07:23.48 | FockeWulf | and btw who is "he" ? |
| 07:23.54 | Bounty | i alrdy told you |
| 07:23.56 | Bounty | Zeratul |
| 07:24.06 | FockeWulf | ok |
| 07:24.10 | Bounty | and im going to go ahead and assume you cant help me fix this either? lol |
| 07:24.19 | Bounty | you dont seem to know what the issue is either |
| 07:24.30 | FockeWulf | when you start talking campaign units theres some weird shit that happens |
| 07:24.30 | FockeWulf | well |
| 07:24.33 | FockeWulf | i already told you |
| 07:24.39 | FockeWulf | duplicate the stock kerrigan |
| 07:24.42 | FockeWulf | actors effects all of it |
| 07:24.46 | FockeWulf | and see if it works |
| 07:25.00 | Bounty | ok |
| 07:25.01 | FockeWulf | the editor is buggy, sometimes if you simply remake a unit or effect with the exact same stats it will work. |
| 07:25.12 | FockeWulf | I've had to do that god knows how many times |
| 07:25.16 | FockeWulf | oh lets try this |
| 07:25.21 | FockeWulf | there are some other kerrigans in there |
| 07:25.25 | FockeWulf | have you tried any of those? |
| 07:25.28 | Bounty | same thing for those to |
| 07:25.29 | Bounty | yes |
| 07:25.35 | FockeWulf | hmm |
| 07:25.40 | FockeWulf | ok now thats less likely then |
| 07:25.58 | FockeWulf | ok when a unit attacks her |
| 07:26.00 | FockeWulf | does she attack back? |
| 07:26.07 | Bounty | yes |
| 07:26.26 | FockeWulf | are you sure she's not agroing to other units? |
| 07:26.37 | Bounty | what do you mean |
| 07:26.46 | FockeWulf | once an AI message is sent |
| 07:26.50 | FockeWulf | the response is instant |
| 07:26.59 | FockeWulf | so what that means is either one could be agroing first |
| 07:27.15 | Bounty | thing is |
| 07:27.20 | Bounty | her attack priority is 1 |
| 07:27.21 | Bounty | mine is 20 |
| 07:27.25 | Bounty | that shouldnt happen |
| 07:27.35 | Bounty | its only HER |
| 07:27.39 | Bounty | i tested with other units |
| 07:27.41 | Bounty | its only Kerrigan |
| 07:27.44 | Bounty | and its the Attack |
| 07:27.46 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:27.51 | FockeWulf | yes and what im saying is if you will listen |
| 07:27.55 | FockeWulf | is that with the attack ability |
| 07:27.59 | FockeWulf | she will agro to other units |
| 07:28.08 | FockeWulf | kerrigan may have a higher agro range than other units |
| 07:28.14 | FockeWulf | she was a campaign superunit after all |
| 07:28.25 | Bounty | yeah but that doesnt matter if her attack priority is 1 |
| 07:28.49 | FockeWulf | no beacuse is KERRIGAN is Initiating the agro. |
| 07:28.55 | FockeWulf | if Kerrigan* |
| 07:29.05 | FockeWulf | then the range will screw up |
| 07:29.18 | FockeWulf | if she doesn't have the attack ability she can't initiate agro |
| 07:29.26 | Bounty | ok so based on what ur saying |
| 07:29.34 | Bounty | if i disable her ability to initiate an attack |
| 07:29.37 | Bounty | that will also work |
| 07:29.52 | FockeWulf | hmm you've just given me an idea |
| 07:29.55 | FockeWulf | one minute |
| 07:30.00 | Bounty | btw |
| 07:30.04 | Bounty | i just did what i just said |
| 07:30.08 | Bounty | didnt work lol =P |
| 07:30.39 | FockeWulf | remove the psi blast ability plz |
| 07:30.43 | FockeWulf | i mean weapon |
| 07:30.45 | FockeWulf | the entire thing |
| 07:30.50 | Bounty | how |
| 07:31.02 | FockeWulf | in the units tab |
| 07:31.14 | FockeWulf | look for weapons+ |
| 07:31.40 | Bounty | ok |
| 07:31.41 | Bounty | did it |
| 07:31.44 | Bounty | gonna test |
| 07:31.55 | Bounty | nope |
| 07:31.59 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:32.19 | FockeWulf | ok now have you left the attack ability but no weapons? |
| 07:32.25 | FockeWulf | because it sounds like you haven't done that yet |
| 07:32.57 | Bounty | yeah and that works |
| 07:32.59 | Bounty | but the thing is |
| 07:33.03 | Bounty | i removed one weapon |
| 07:33.06 | Bounty | put it back in |
| 07:33.08 | Bounty | and removed the other |
| 07:33.11 | Bounty | and that didnt work lol |
| 07:33.17 | FockeWulf | im saying BOTH |
| 07:33.26 | Bounty | i just said i did that |
| 07:33.27 | FockeWulf | this is the way we know if its just the attack ability itself is broken |
| 07:33.28 | Bounty | and it worked |
| 07:33.41 | FockeWulf | ok so without weapons it work |
| 07:33.45 | Bounty | yep |
| 07:33.57 | Bounty | but its not the weapons themselves |
| 07:34.01 | Bounty | i tested them both seperately |
| 07:35.04 | FockeWulf | ok now please remove both weapons |
| 07:35.14 | FockeWulf | find the zergling weapon and add that |
| 07:36.07 | Bounty | adding the zergling weapon made it happen again |
| 07:36.10 | Bounty | he went right for her |
| 07:36.16 | FockeWulf | ok |
| 07:36.18 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 07:36.26 | FockeWulf | please restore the default weapons |
| 07:36.30 | Bounty | did |
| 07:36.40 | FockeWulf | ok theres a value we are missing here so give me a minute |
| 07:36.47 | FockeWulf | it would be in the units tab though |
| 07:38.51 | FockeWulf | ok in the units you have tried did you try any non-hero units |
| 07:38.58 | FockeWulf | ie with the flag hero (not heroic) |
| 07:39.02 | Skittles_ | yay |
| 07:39.06 | Skittles_ | finally fixed my beam. |
| 07:39.07 | Skittles_ | Xd |
| 07:39.19 | Bounty | yes |
| 07:39.20 | JademusSreg | Tried it. |
| 07:39.29 | Bounty | its not in the unit tab |
| 07:39.40 | Bounty | ive copy pasted entire other unit tabs to her |
| 07:39.44 | Bounty | and it only worked when i removed attack |
| 07:40.20 | FockeWulf | ok |
| 07:40.29 | FockeWulf | now i want you to change the tactical AI to drone |
| 07:40.56 | Bounty | nope |
| 07:40.56 | JademusSreg | Tactical AI is unknown, which is to say null. |
| 07:40.58 | Bounty | didnt work |
| 07:41.09 | FockeWulf | ok revert it back plz |
| 07:41.34 | FockeWulf | ya i know that but the thing is, if its only with her, then SHE HAS to be the one agroing |
| 07:41.55 | FockeWulf | wait a minute |
| 07:42.01 | FockeWulf | what is the map's diffuclty? |
| 07:42.10 | Bounty | difficulty? |
| 07:42.23 | JademusSreg | Not it, either. Mines of normal. |
| 07:42.31 | FockeWulf | hmm |
| 07:43.24 | FockeWulf | aha, i may have found it |
| 07:43.32 | Skittles_ | I feel ignored. =( |
| 07:44.01 | JademusSreg | Congrats. =D |
| 07:44.02 | Bounty | oh rly Focke? =P |
| 07:44.08 | Bounty | he said he MAY |
| 07:44.11 | Bounty | no congrats yet |
| 07:44.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:44.21 | JademusSreg | Congrats to Skit. |
| 07:44.25 | Skittles_ | =D |
| 07:44.40 | Skittles_ | was a pain in the ass just finding out what the damn problem was. |
| 07:44.43 | FockeWulf | ok you see that "kerrigan searching" behavior |
| 07:44.46 | FockeWulf | plz delete it |
| 07:44.58 | Bounty | and how do i do that |
| 07:44.59 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:45.07 | JademusSreg | It is applied by the Search ability. |
| 07:45.10 | FockeWulf | view linked object |
| 07:45.15 | FockeWulf | and when it pulls it up |
| 07:45.17 | FockeWulf | delete it |
| 07:45.28 | JademusSreg | No ability, no application vector. |
| 07:45.55 | Bounty | it wont let me delete it |
| 07:45.56 | Skittles_ | hmm |
| 07:45.58 | FockeWulf | i think that behavior i given via trigger |
| 07:46.07 | Skittles_ | I should make Zombie Nexus Dota Wars! |
| 07:46.09 | FockeWulf | hmm nvm |
| 07:46.18 | Skittles_ | hmm |
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| 07:46.32 | Skittles_ | Sixen u there? |
| 07:47.22 | Skittles_ | OMFG! |
| 07:47.24 | Skittles_ | It's so perfect. |
| 07:47.37 | Skittles_ | It's almost april fools. |
| 07:47.43 | Skittles_ | I can't wait. |
| 07:48.07 | Bounty | I love how i always run into problems nobody can solve |
| 07:48.13 | FockeWulf | lol |
| 07:48.24 | FockeWulf | key kick zaratools sight radius down to 5 plz |
| 07:48.34 | Skittles_ | your just picky. |
| 07:48.54 | Bounty | ok, i did it |
| 07:48.58 | Bounty | y did i do that? lol |
| 07:49.21 | FockeWulf | plz test it once you did it |
| 07:49.48 | Bounty | nope |
| 07:49.57 | FockeWulf | also remove zaratools hero detect radar behavior |
| 07:50.38 | Bounty | i alrdy did that |
| 07:50.58 | Bounty | Trust me, the problem is Kerrigan |
| 07:51.01 | Bounty | i tested other units |
| 07:51.05 | Bounty | everyone else works fine |
| 07:51.13 | FockeWulf | ok now did you remove kerrigan's heroic attribute? |
| 07:51.42 | Bounty | all that has been done |
| 07:51.50 | FockeWulf | ok so we're gonna do a bypass now |
| 07:51.52 | FockeWulf | ok |
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| 07:52.18 | FockeWulf | plz duplicate the queen of blades actor |
| 07:52.30 | FockeWulf | and then please duplicate the zergling unit |
| 07:53.01 | Bounty | am i only duplicating the Queen of Blades actor or am i duplicating everything attached to it |
| 07:53.07 | FockeWulf | nope just the actor |
| 07:53.16 | FockeWulf | dont EVER do the attachments |
| 07:53.20 | FockeWulf | the editor always fucks em up |
| 07:53.27 | FockeWulf | you get to do the whole thing manually every time |
| 07:53.34 | Bounty | ok now what about the zergling |
| 07:53.40 | FockeWulf | same deal just the unit |
| 07:53.54 | Bounty | ok |
| 07:54.09 | FockeWulf | ok now please remember what your zergling unit (the name of it) |
| 07:54.19 | FockeWulf | ok go to your duplicated queen of blades actor |
| 07:55.08 | Bounty | ok |
| 07:55.23 | FockeWulf | ok now to save time, please slect and copy the art - model |
| 07:55.48 | Bounty | ok |
| 07:55.48 | FockeWulf | dont do anything with it yet |
| 07:56.01 | FockeWulf | now you see that little tiny top windo on the upper right had side? |
| 07:56.07 | FockeWulf | next to unit name? |
| 07:56.38 | FockeWulf | it should show the unit the actor is linked too |
| 07:56.56 | Bounty | what? lol |
| 07:57.02 | FockeWulf | Actually first to make sure the editor didnt f that up either do this first |
| 07:57.08 | FockeWulf | ok you see where it says "Token": |
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| 07:57.18 | FockeWulf | underneath it says "Unit Name" ? |
| 07:57.20 | Bounty | no |
| 07:57.29 | Bounty | oh |
| 07:57.30 | Bounty | yeah |
| 07:57.30 | Bounty | ok |
| 07:57.42 | FockeWulf | Please double click on the "unit name" |
| 07:57.45 | maknyuzz | hi guys |
| 07:57.48 | FockeWulf | sometimes the editor fucks this up too |
| 07:57.54 | maknyuzz | can i ask Q? |
| 07:57.55 | FockeWulf | make sure its a "link" |
| 07:58.00 | FockeWulf | sure |
| 07:58.06 | Bounty | what do you mean a link |
| 07:58.13 | maknyuzz | i wanna do knockback effect via data |
| 07:58.18 | maknyuzz | any tips? |
| 07:58.19 | FockeWulf | the bullet "link" is dark |
| 07:58.37 | Bounty | i guess so? lol |
| 07:58.42 | FockeWulf | ok |
| 07:58.56 | FockeWulf | now you see next to unit name there is the unit the actor is linked to? |
| 07:59.04 | FockeWulf | please change that to your duplicated zergling |
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| 07:59.18 | FockeWulf | and as far as the kockback goes |
| 07:59.23 | FockeWulf | you will need to create a behavior |
| 07:59.27 | Bounty | .... |
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| 07:59.30 | Bounty | ?????? |
| 07:59.36 | Bounty | i have no idea what your talking about focke |
| 07:59.37 | FockeWulf | nvm different guy |
| 07:59.46 | Bounty | i dont see anything of that crap |
| 07:59.51 | FockeWulf | did you link to the new unit? |
| 08:00.00 | FockeWulf | ok you know where you found "token" right? |
| 08:00.03 | Bounty | yeah |
| 08:00.05 | Bounty | it says |
| 08:00.06 | Bounty | Unit Name |
| 08:00.14 | Bounty | and Kerrigan (Tyrador |
| 08:00.15 | Bounty | thats it |
| 08:00.18 | Bounty | no more, no less |
| 08:00.24 | FockeWulf | yup now the second vlue |
| 08:00.28 | FockeWulf | double lick it |
| 08:00.32 | FockeWulf | click* |
| 08:00.36 | FockeWulf | and change it to your duplicated zergling |
| 08:00.41 | Bounty | second value? |
| 08:01.02 | Bounty | oh |
| 08:01.03 | FockeWulf | "and Kerrigan" (Tryador.... |
| 08:01.04 | Bounty | i see |
| 08:01.05 | Bounty | dude |
| 08:01.07 | Bounty | just said |
| 08:01.09 | Bounty | just say* |
| 08:01.18 | Bounty | click where it says Kerrigan Tyrador and select the zergling |
| 08:01.19 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:01.37 | FockeWulf | cause im not fing looking at it on my own window right now |
| 08:01.38 | Bounty | neways, i did it |
| 08:01.41 | FockeWulf | im doing this from memory |
| 08:01.42 | FockeWulf | ok |
| 08:01.52 | FockeWulf | now you noticed it fucked up the "art - model" |
| 08:02.12 | Bounty | yeah, art model is gone |
| 08:02.18 | FockeWulf | ok theres 3 of em that got changed |
| 08:02.21 | Bounty | err |
| 08:02.22 | Bounty | yeah |
| 08:02.26 | Bounty | changed to zergling2 |
| 08:02.27 | JademusSreg | I may be on to something... |
| 08:02.38 | Bounty | with what Jadem? a solution to this? |
| 08:02.39 | FockeWulf | please paste (remember you copied) the model link back into those model values |
| 08:03.48 | JademusSreg | I managed to get only the units into whos range I entered to attack me. |
| 08:04.17 | JademusSreg | Yep. I succeeded. |
| 08:04.29 | Bounty | how? |
| 08:04.30 | FockeWulf | ok thank god cause he was turnging me inside out |
| 08:04.32 | JademusSreg | She can attack and not pull every motherfucker for miles. |
| 08:04.44 | Bounty | do tell how =P |
| 08:04.47 | JademusSreg | Honestly, I'm not entirely sure. I'll explain what I did. |
| 08:05.04 | JademusSreg | I reverted her unit data to default. Not normal default, but back to her parent unit. |
| 08:05.17 | JademusSreg | Then I progressively added values until she was just functional. |
| 08:05.29 | JademusSreg | So I didn't pin point the problem, but I did find the solution. |
| 08:05.39 | JademusSreg | I'm sure if I kept going I'd eventually pin it down. |
| 08:05.53 | Bounty | how many values did you have to change to get her fuctional |
| 08:05.57 | JademusSreg | Give me a moment to figure it out. |
| 08:06.33 | FockeWulf | i knew something in the unit was fucked up |
| 08:06.36 | FockeWulf | i just wish i knew what |
| 08:06.40 | FockeWulf | my bypass would have worked |
| 08:06.42 | FockeWulf | but its a pain |
| 08:06.45 | Bounty | wait |
| 08:06.48 | FockeWulf | it has the same effect |
| 08:06.51 | Bounty | i just set her back to her defaults |
| 08:06.52 | Bounty | and it works now lol |
| 08:07.06 | FockeWulf | let me get this strait |
| 08:07.12 | FockeWulf | you tampered with her |
| 08:07.16 | Bounty | no |
| 08:07.21 | Bounty | i only changed her life values |
| 08:07.26 | JademusSreg | No. The default unit pulls every fucking thing. |
| 08:07.33 | JademusSreg | It's bizarre. |
| 08:07.52 | FockeWulf | bounty you may want to reinstall your map editor :P |
| 08:08.50 | FockeWulf | some value in there is causing it |
| 08:08.55 | FockeWulf | i just wish it knew what it was |
| 08:09.13 | JademusSreg | Perhaps there is a value not visible in the editor. |
| 08:09.16 | JademusSreg | I could check the xml. |
| 08:10.01 | Bounty | well |
| 08:10.03 | Bounty | its fixed now |
| 08:10.05 | Bounty | i just put it back to default |
| 08:10.07 | Bounty | n thats it rofl |
| 08:10.08 | Bounty | wtf |
| 08:10.17 | Bounty | well now thats fixed |
| 08:10.28 | Bounty | anyone know how to prevent a unit from resetting to his previous location? |
| 08:10.53 | JademusSreg | How do you mean? |
| 08:11.08 | FockeWulf | bounty you and i soo need to work together |
| 08:11.23 | FockeWulf | I've got the data editor skills you need lol |
| 08:11.40 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:11.45 | Bounty | what i mean is |
| 08:11.48 | Bounty | Zeratul will chase me |
| 08:11.56 | Bounty | then turn around and go back to his original location after awhile |
| 08:12.04 | FockeWulf | dude thats normal ai |
| 08:12.10 | JademusSreg | Issue orders periodically. |
| 08:12.10 | Bounty | i know |
| 08:12.10 | FockeWulf | you will have to code a custom ai for that |
| 08:12.17 | JademusSreg | Yah. |
| 08:12.19 | Bounty | im saying is there a way to have him not turn away |
| 08:12.25 | Bounty | .... |
| 08:12.28 | JademusSreg | Issue orders periodically. |
| 08:12.31 | FockeWulf | turn away or go back? |
| 08:12.39 | FockeWulf | cause sliding back is a different story |
| 08:12.49 | Bounty | he turns around and runs home |
| 08:12.50 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:12.55 | Bounty | so i cant fix that? |
| 08:13.07 | MTops | give him an attack order when he starts chasing you |
| 08:13.10 | Bounty | if i issue order periodically that will mess up the in game aggro system though |
| 08:14.06 | MTops | make a trigger that fires when you enter his "aggro range" |
| 08:14.20 | MTops | in that trigger you give him an attack order with as target your unit |
| 08:14.28 | MTops | that should do it |
| 08:15.49 | Bounty | yeah but its multiple players |
| 08:16.03 | Bounty | and like i said that would ruin the entire in game aggro system lol |
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| 08:16.17 | MTops | do you want him to switch targets? |
| 08:16.21 | Bounty | yes |
| 08:16.29 | MTops | what should trigger the target switch? |
| 08:16.37 | Bounty | well |
| 08:16.43 | Bounty | the sc2 default is whoever is closest |
| 08:17.17 | Clord | hehe it would rock |
| 08:17.23 | Clord | to be able to tell second closest |
| 08:17.24 | Clord | etc |
| 08:17.30 | MTops | but you want it to be damage based? |
| 08:17.51 | Bounty | no |
| 08:17.54 | Bounty | just whoever is closest |
| 08:17.58 | Bounty | like the default system |
| 08:18.40 | MTops | ok, then make a trigger that fires periodically with the following: |
| 08:19.40 | MTops | create a unitgroup that is region constricted, the region is a circle around Zeratul |
| 08:19.56 | MTops | all units in that circle should be in that unitgroup |
| 08:20.03 | MTops | remove Zeratul from that group |
| 08:20.25 | MTops | pick the unit closest to Zeratul's position and use that as the target for your attack order |
| 08:20.26 | AgentPaper | hm, how would I make it so you can build some units in an area, but not others? |
| 08:20.40 | AgentPaper | for example in my TD, you can't build towers in the lanes but you can build units |
| 08:21.02 | MTops | how do you build units in your TD? |
| 08:21.16 | AgentPaper | with a modified probe build ability |
| 08:21.25 | Clord | there is tons of ways to give unit order to use ability etc.... when getting damaged.... when unit begins to attack.. etc |
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| 08:22.21 | MTops | doesn't the editor have a feature to place non-construction zones? |
| 08:22.26 | Clord | but picking units to unit group and then using ability against random unit is possible too ^^ |
| 08:22.41 | AgentPaper | Yeah I already set my lanes to be non-construction |
| 08:22.58 | AgentPaper | I want to know how to make it so you can build some units in the lanes, but not others |
| 08:23.31 | MTops | the non-construction zone also prevents the build of units, which you don't want |
| 08:23.34 | Bounty | LOL |
| 08:23.36 | Bounty | wow |
| 08:23.37 | Bounty | just wow |
| 08:23.42 | Bounty | Kerrigan is doing it again |
| 08:24.01 | Bounty | Fockewulf and Jademusreg |
| 08:24.34 | FockeWulf | did you change anything? |
| 08:24.43 | Bounty | well |
| 08:24.52 | Bounty | by default she is invulnerable |
| 08:24.57 | Bounty | so i had to remove that so she could be attacked |
| 08:25.01 | Bounty | thats why it was "working" |
| 08:25.07 | Bounty | bc she couldnt be targetted |
| 08:25.13 | Bounty | now shes back to doing the same fucking shit lol |
| 08:25.19 | FockeWulf | >.< |
| 08:25.29 | FockeWulf | ok well we can do the default values he did |
| 08:25.34 | FockeWulf | or do teh bypass i did |
| 08:27.38 | Bounty | default values doesntseem that hard |
| 08:27.44 | Bounty | just gotta give her hp |
| 08:28.36 | Bounty | actually no wait |
| 08:28.41 | Bounty | shes invisible lol |
| 08:28.45 | Bounty | ... |
| 08:29.39 | FockeWulf | check the flag |
| 08:30.20 | Bounty | no i mean |
| 08:30.23 | Bounty | like in the editor |
| 08:30.27 | Bounty | i place her and i cant see her lol |
| 08:30.32 | Bounty | she has a model |
| 08:30.34 | Bounty | and the actor |
| 08:30.37 | Bounty | etc |
| 08:31.55 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 08:32.00 | MrOp | hi XD |
| 08:32.15 | Bounty | Jademus |
| 08:32.21 | Bounty | How did you get Kerrigan to be visible |
| 08:32.25 | Bounty | after you did the default thing |
| 08:32.34 | Bounty | i did it but now she wont show up in my editor when i place her |
| 08:33.07 | Skittles_ | nite |
| 08:33.25 | Skittles_ | uh |
| 08:33.33 | Skittles_ | i was marked as being away b4 it seems |
| 08:33.34 | Skittles_ | lol |
| 08:33.39 | Skittles_ | oh nope |
| 08:34.01 | Clord | they putted nice effort for kerrigan's voice acting |
| 08:34.06 | Clord | or whatever |
| 08:34.20 | Clord | you hear lines what you don't hear via campaign |
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| 08:39.57 | JademusSreg | All I did was revert her to default, then steadily added values until she was working again. |
| 08:40.06 | JademusSreg | Also, I never messed with her actors. |
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| 08:48.22 | AgentPaper | can paused units take damage? |
| 08:48.28 | Bounty | quick question |
| 08:48.33 | Bounty | this is an easy one |
| 08:48.44 | Bounty | when i run a cutscene and re apply the camera it doesnt follow the unit as fast |
| 08:48.50 | Bounty | any ideas? |
| 08:48.54 | Bounty | and yes they can Agent |
| 08:48.58 | Bounty | they just cant regenerate health |
| 08:49.27 | AgentPaper | ah, mk |
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| 08:50.56 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v Hati] by ChanServ |
| 08:52.06 | JademusSreg | Yeah, paused units can take damage. |
| 08:54.32 | Shawn|Rawr | Who else would agree that rodrigo is the most anti-sharing person on mapster? |
| 08:55.06 | tordy | what he do this time |
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| 08:55.48 | RyanWin | starting to look like an MMO :D http://i52.tinypic.com/2i09atz.jpg |
| 08:55.53 | Shawn|Rawr | Someone made a joke that he was gonna steal rodrigo's triggers |
| 08:56.07 | Shawn|Rawr | I used the opportunity to flame roddy |
| 08:59.30 | Clord | yeah but maybe he is nicer then? |
| 08:59.31 | Clord | ;) |
| 09:00.17 | Clord | quite good even if dialogs or custom UI's headers look bad XD |
| 09:01.40 | Clord | aah famous jester of the forum |
| 09:01.40 | RyanWin | will be given custom graphics in time |
| 09:01.42 | Clord | Rodrigo |
| 09:02.10 | Clord | plus some drama queen XD |
| 09:03.42 | Clord | hehe.. it already looks like custom graphics pretty much |
| 09:03.53 | RyanWin | nah its bnet standard |
| 09:03.54 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 09:04.04 | tordy | what! |
| 09:04.06 | tordy | anyone here |
| 09:04.09 | Clord | yeah noticed |
| 09:04.12 | Clord | but fits so well XD |
| 09:04.12 | tordy | ok |
| 09:04.25 | tordy | battlefield 3 looks so good |
| 09:04.27 | RyanWin | lol u just said it looked bad |
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| 09:04.44 | tordy | yall see the single player footage |
| 09:04.51 | tordy | animations and sound & everything |
| 09:04.53 | tordy | so damn realistic |
| 09:05.11 | Clord | headers look bad but overall good design =) |
| 09:06.31 | Clord | lol.... repeating same stuff but some not seem get it.... I mean that it is not perfect but damn good looking :) |
| 09:06.34 | Clord | then again |
| 09:06.37 | Clord | nothing is perfect |
| 09:06.39 | Clord | lol |
| 09:07.03 | RyanWin | :D |
| 09:07.11 | RyanWin | Mille did it |
| 09:07.18 | RyanWin | for the most part |
| 09:07.30 | RyanWin | vendors and equipment system is completely custm |
| 09:07.34 | Clord | even fighting games it is hilarious when you abuse the system so that enemy can't hit you and it tells you did "perfect"..... it is hardly fastest method to achieve it typically |
| 09:07.36 | RyanWin | didnt even use bliz item system |
| 09:07.46 | Clord | or in least possible time |
| 09:08.04 | Clord | hehe |
| 09:08.06 | Clord | you can indeed |
| 09:08.09 | Clord | trigger around it |
| 09:08.12 | Clord | most part at least |
| 09:09.12 | Clord | but if aiur chef did show something.... it was how to make cool item bar XD |
| 09:09.19 | Clord | way more user friendly |
| 09:12.37 | tordy | can we copy the way aiur chef makes item bars |
| 09:12.41 | tordy | or are those blizz only |
| 09:12.42 | Clord | http://www.shacknews.com/article/67651/cloud-gaming-service-gaikai-goes |
| 09:12.45 | Clord | =) |
| 09:12.50 | Clord | I tried this service yesterday |
| 09:12.56 | Clord | it is Onlive wannabee |
| 09:13.43 | tordy | does it work |
| 09:13.50 | tordy | is the latency horrible |
| 09:13.50 | Clord | they stream game video and audio directly from datacenter and inputs are sent there to affect game |
| 09:14.02 | Clord | actually |
| 09:14.05 | tordy | is the input lag really noticable? |
| 09:14.13 | Clord | as datacenter is closer to Finland than Onlive ones currently |
| 09:14.17 | Clord | I got good response time |
| 09:14.17 | MrOp | online kind of sucks unless you are near one of there stations |
| 09:14.24 | tordy | yea pm |
| 09:14.33 | tordy | input lag really bugs me |
| 09:14.38 | tordy | especially for something like shooters |
| 09:14.45 | Clord | was somewhat smooth experience but it almost looked like their own hardware was hardly keeping up with some demanding scenes |
| 09:15.23 | Clord | game looks rather good without turning full screen on |
| 09:15.42 | tordy | cant imagine them running Battlefield 3 though |
| 09:15.43 | tordy | http://www.ea.com/battlefield3/videos/faultline-ep1 |
| 09:15.54 | tordy | i'd imagine it's gonna be really intensive |
| 09:15.57 | tordy | since it ditches dx9 |
| 09:16.44 | Clord | haha.. I forgot torrent software on so it told me how I didn't have enough bandwith... yet perfect when I turn it off ^^ |
| 09:16.47 | Clord | 100% |
| 09:17.46 | Clord | yeah... Gaikai at first is demo service |
| 09:17.51 | Clord | they expand later but |
| 09:17.53 | Clord | first only demos |
| 09:18.14 | Clord | this is one of many points why Onlive is superior when it comes here to europe too |
| 09:18.22 | Clord | Gaikai offering only demos is weak XD |
| 09:18.40 | Clord | it is kinda waste of technology |
| 09:19.03 | tordy | oh |
| 09:19.05 | tordy | he had to split |
| 09:30.49 | Clord | finnish language is evolving some kind of alien speaking XD |
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| 09:33.36 | Smurphy | I've made a map, enabled defeat, victory and reveal options for specific players. When I take my initial workers and kill my own starting building... it simply reveals |
| 09:33.52 | Smurphy | When I take my initial workers and kill the enemies building... the defeat/victory triggers |
| 09:35.15 | Smurphy | Am I misunderstanding victory/defeat enabled? I don't think this is functioning properly |
| 09:40.01 | Hati | does the enemy has builders too ... ? |
| 09:40.20 | Smurphy | Yes |
| 09:40.28 | Hati | do you have some sort of invisible unit placed by accident ? |
| 09:40.31 | Smurphy | Both teams start with the normal, standard default units/resources buildings |
| 09:40.35 | Smurphy | I don't believe so. |
| 09:40.46 | Smurphy | When I spawn as either team, killing the other's starting building triggers victory/defeat |
| 09:41.06 | Smurphy | I'm testing suiciding everything (lifting off a burning CC full of all workers) |
| 09:41.53 | Smurphy | Team1 no longer has any forces. It's supposed to say "Defeated/Victory" too, right? |
| 09:55.09 | Dekar | just delete the melee init trigger if you dont like it |
| 09:55.34 | Dekar | and why did blizz not add a angle difference function |
| 09:56.20 | Smurphy | was that directed at me? delete the melee init trigger? |
| 10:00.19 | Vexal | yup. |
| 10:01.16 | Smurphy | I don't understand. I like Melee Initialization trigger. My map is a version of Team melee. |
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| 10:01.49 | Smurphy | The victory/defeat triggers just work strangely. |
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| 10:09.07 | Icebane | Mooornig! |
| 10:14.42 | Demonette | Morning bane |
| 10:16.10 | Dekar | hi |
| 10:17.00 | MrOp | hi |
| 10:18.45 | Demonette | =S |
| 10:18.56 | Demonette | i suck at triggering... |
| 10:25.26 | Demonette | why does line 10 not work? http://pastebin.com/5iY1wv4f |
| 10:25.53 | MrOp | :/ |
| 10:26.53 | Demonette | I thought it would be easy to make an action with a var as parameter... =/ so it can directly save it's work in this var... |
| 10:27.05 | Demonette | but it doesn't set those vars |
| 10:28.19 | Demonette | Ooohhh... |
| 10:29.00 | Demonette | it threat as an strict number not as a var isn't it? |
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| 10:31.53 | Demonette | So no one can help? XD all galaxy coder asleep? |
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| 10:51.59 | Darkarbiter | anyone awake |
| 10:52.01 | Darkarbiter | ~8ball |
| 10:52.01 | purl | ACTION rolls the eight ball and gets: Very doubtful |
| 10:52.12 | MrOp | nop |
| 10:52.31 | ducky_ | *yawn* |
| 10:52.31 | Demonette | hi |
| 10:54.06 | MrOp | hi XD |
| 10:56.22 | Demonette | Graaa--- |
| 10:56.25 | Demonette | an gone |
| 10:57.38 | Dekar | do you still need help Demonette? |
| 10:58.25 | MrOp | i might need help with a test dekar |
| 10:58.30 | MrOp | if you want |
| 10:58.35 | Dekar | what test? |
| 10:58.50 | MrOp | a maze map thingie |
| 10:58.56 | Dekar | on eu? |
| 10:59.03 | MrOp | on :/ |
| 10:59.06 | MrOp | NA |
| 10:59.14 | Dekar | im on eu! |
| 10:59.19 | MrOp | BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 10:59.29 | MrOp | bebees |
| 10:59.51 | MrOp | i guess i have to play wit hmyself |
| 10:59.52 | MrOp | sigh |
| 11:00.49 | Darkarbiter | yum |
| 11:00.50 | Darkarbiter | keep talking |
| 11:04.24 | Darkarbiter | YOU'RE NOT TALKING |
| 11:04.54 | MrOp | i try not to encorage homosexual covos |
| 11:07.38 | Demonette | Yeaj i still need help delar |
| 11:07.39 | Demonette | dekar |
| 11:07.41 | Demonette | ... |
| 11:07.50 | Dekar | what error do you get? |
| 11:08.34 | Dekar | is that gui or custom code? |
| 11:08.38 | Dekar | you wrote it in |
| 11:08.47 | Demonette | Well i tried to make a custom action... and i wanted to give it a var were it "writes" it's new dialogitem in... |
| 11:09.04 | Demonette | kind a... well i don't really code.. |
| 11:09.07 | Dekar | send me the map :D |
| 11:09.14 | Demonette | lol? XD |
| 11:09.31 | Demonette | Mmmhhh... i'm sure you will laugh about me -.- |
| 11:09.37 | Dekar | ah ooo |
| 11:09.39 | Dekar | nooo |
| 11:10.02 | Darkarbiter | someone ban MrOp for being homophobic |
| 11:10.21 | Demonette | wait a mom dekar |
| 11:11.06 | Dekar | well i think i know what you try to do |
| 11:11.25 | Dekar | i would say, make it a function and return the dialog item |
| 11:11.31 | Bibendus|AFK | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 11:11.39 | Dekar | or i think there is an option |
| 11:11.39 | MrOp | no a homo or a phobic |
| 11:12.09 | Dekar | to make parameters change the value sin the function it called |
| 11:13.25 | Demonette | awwwh? yeah... function would work =/ only thought it could be done easier... |
| 11:13.33 | Dekar | ok i didnt do that before |
| 11:13.54 | Dekar | but if you select the parameter you want to stare the dialog item in |
| 11:13.58 | Dekar | and check use reference |
| 11:14.13 | Demonette | io checked use reference... XD |
| 11:14.18 | Dekar | hmm |
| 11:14.46 | Dekar | i guess i would use a function then :< |
| 11:15.19 | Dekar | i never tried to change a parameter |
| 11:15.25 | Demonette | maybe thats the best idea... |
| 11:15.43 | Demonette | why didn't you ever tried? XD |
| 11:15.55 | Dekar | i always store my stuff in locals before i change it, lol |
| 11:16.27 | Dekar | and then return them if needed |
| 11:16.48 | MrOp | sry if i offended anyone ^^ |
| 11:16.52 | Demonette | i try to change glibals... |
| 11:16.54 | Demonette | globals |
| 11:16.55 | Dekar | or i have global variable arrays and pass all arguments i need into the action |
| 11:17.06 | Dekar | so the action just set a variable |
| 11:17.30 | Demonette | It's like writing are function that increases your var by one |
| 11:17.52 | Dekar | check the library |
| 11:17.54 | Dekar | modify variable |
| 11:18.21 | Darkarbiter | Sorry, that's probably a bit too gay for MrOp |
| 11:19.08 | Demonette | mh? |
| 11:19.28 | Dekar | view - show libraries |
| 11:19.42 | Dekar | built in - general - modify variable |
| 11:20.18 | Dekar | they use custom code |
| 11:20.21 | Dekar | #PARAM(var)=#PARAM(var) #PARAM(operator) #PARAM(val); |
| 11:20.28 | Dekar | to build the function |
| 11:20.29 | Dekar | ... |
| 11:21.00 | Demonette | you are awesome =) |
| 11:21.14 | Demonette | cuddles Dekar. |
| 11:21.22 | Dekar | :o |
| 11:21.24 | Shawn|Rawr | is jealous of the cuddles |
| 11:21.33 | Dekar | all the cuddles are mine! |
| 11:21.45 | Shawn|Rawr | must do something cool to get cuddles.. |
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| 11:25.54 | Demonette | Hehe ^^ |
| 11:29.52 | Demonette | Mmhh and what do i have to do to get "written" code working? ... |
| 11:30.10 | Demonette | i never written them manually or needed to... |
| 11:30.25 | Dekar | check the custom code thing |
| 11:30.35 | Dekar | but then the gui part disappears |
| 11:30.56 | Dekar | so you have to copy that |
| 11:31.40 | Demonette | aaahhh =) |
| 11:31.41 | Dekar | the actions that is |
| 11:31.52 | Demonette | should work now then |
| 11:32.35 | Demonette | Syntax Error... XD |
| 11:33.19 | Dekar | show me the custom code |
| 11:34.04 | Demonette | libNtve_gf_CreateDialogItemButton(DialogLastCreated(), 72, 72, c_anchorTopLeft, lp_x, lp_y, lp_tooltip, lp_name, ""); #PARAM(Dialogitem-Var) = DialogControlLastCreated(); libNtve_gf_CreateDialogItemImage(DialogLastCreated(), 56, 56, c_anchorTopLeft, (lp_x + 8), (lp_y + 8), StringExternal("Param/Value/0504D6FC"), lp_image, c_triggerImageTypeNormal, false, Color(100,100,100), c_triggerBlendModeAdd); DialogControlFadeTransparency |
| 11:34.08 | Demonette | XD |
| 11:34.14 | Dekar | hmmm |
| 11:34.34 | Demonette | do i have do initiate it first?... |
| 11:35.19 | Dekar | where is the error? |
| 11:35.31 | Dekar | you do use linebreaks, yes? :p |
| 11:35.50 | Demonette | i do.. |
| 11:35.54 | Dekar | + cut off part at the end |
| 11:36.07 | Demonette | mmmhh seems like my function isn't implemented... oO |
| 11:36.34 | Demonette | can't found the function when i look at the skript code of the whole thing... |
| 11:36.45 | Dekar | yeah, its actually not a function anymore |
| 11:36.47 | Dekar | but a macro |
| 11:36.59 | Dekar | it gets copied everywhere |
| 11:37.08 | Dekar | with the PARAM stuff replaced |
| 11:37.29 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:37.39 | Dekar | is that the id of the variable? |
| 11:37.52 | Dekar | when you select it in the lower part, greyed out |
| 11:38.07 | Dekar | script identifier |
| 11:38.09 | Demonette | seen it... |
| 11:38.11 | Demonette | true |
| 11:38.15 | Demonette | dialogitemVar |
| 11:38.18 | Demonette | thats the ID |
| 11:38.32 | Dekar | then use that |
| 11:39.02 | Demonette | the syntax error is where is try to use that function in other triggers ^^ |
| 11:40.06 | Dekar | function or action? :D |
| 11:40.34 | Demonette | action |
| 11:41.05 | Dekar | hmm, but it looks fine now |
| 11:41.29 | Dekar | unless you really forgot to copy the end |
| 11:41.35 | Dekar | DialogControlFadeTransparency |
| 11:41.39 | Dekar | after that |
| 11:41.54 | Demonette | the end? |
| 11:42.00 | Dekar | DialogControlFadeTransparency(DialogControlLastCreated(), PlayerGroupAll(), 0.0, 66.67); |
| 11:42.24 | Demonette | something wrong with that part? |
| 11:43.22 | Dekar | not if you copied all that, but it got cut off up there where you copied the code in irc |
| 11:43.55 | Dekar | comment out the param line and see if it works |
| 11:44.04 | Dekar | with // |
| 11:44.45 | Demonette | It says it has no parameters anymore =( |
| 11:45.13 | Dekar | what D: |
| 11:45.25 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:45.28 | Dekar | this line i mean |
| 11:45.46 | Demonette | Yeah... |
| 11:45.56 | Dekar | hmm |
| 11:46.05 | Demonette | but if i try do use the action then it shows up with no parameters at all... |
| 11:46.15 | Dekar | oh |
| 11:46.21 | Demonette | =S |
| 11:46.28 | Dekar | ooh |
| 11:46.38 | Dekar | i think i had that too |
| 11:47.15 | Dekar | ok then just uncheck the custom script option |
| 11:47.21 | Dekar | and disable all gui |
| 11:47.44 | Demonette | ? |
| 11:47.48 | Dekar | ah yes |
| 11:47.52 | Demonette | delete all actions? |
| 11:47.54 | Dekar | no |
| 11:47.57 | Dekar | well yes |
| 11:48.02 | Dekar | you have them in custom code anyway |
| 11:48.02 | Demonette | well what? XD |
| 11:48.07 | Demonette | okay |
| 11:48.18 | Dekar | no gui, uncheck custom code option |
| 11:48.22 | Dekar | but leave custom code |
| 11:48.32 | Dekar | that should work |
| 11:48.38 | Dekar | i think |
| 11:48.39 | Dekar | >_> |
| 11:49.47 | Shawn|Rawr | I think I'm going to start nonstop flaming rodrigo |
| 11:49.57 | Demonette | Mmmhhh |
| 11:50.17 | Demonette | still not sure what disable gui means... oO |
| 11:50.33 | Dekar | enable - disable all actions |
| 11:50.39 | Dekar | in gui |
| 11:50.42 | Dekar | or |
| 11:50.43 | Dekar | delete them |
| 11:50.51 | Demonette | i deleted all og them |
| 11:50.55 | Demonette | all of them |
| 11:53.04 | Demonette | okay... now nothing happends anymore... |
| 11:53.13 | Demonette | no error but no action as well... =( |
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| 11:53.39 | Demonette | the action now seems to have parameters but doesn't do anything |
| 11:54.24 | Dekar | :/ |
| 11:55.13 | Dekar | my function is like that |
| 11:55.17 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.23 | Dekar | and it has this custom code |
| 11:55.30 | Dekar | #AUTOVAR(i,fixed) = #PARAM(duration); |
| 11:55.31 | Dekar | while(#AUTOVAR(i) > 0){ |
| 11:55.31 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.31 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.31 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.31 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.32 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.32 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.33 | Dekar | } |
| 11:55.39 | Dekar | and it should work |
| 11:55.44 | Dekar | last time i tested it it worked |
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| 11:56.44 | Demonette | what is subfunction for? |
| 11:56.55 | Dekar | its like when oyu have if / then / else |
| 11:57.06 | Demonette | =/ |
| 11:57.09 | Dekar | you can in gui add actions or conditions |
| 11:57.15 | Dekar | or even events i think |
| 11:57.32 | Demonette | Okay... |
| 11:58.15 | Demonette | maybe the editor just wants so fuck with me -.- .. my actions is simply an action but it doesn't do anything and isn't recognized as a function as well... |
| 11:58.23 | Dekar | dunno , i just made 2 of such things yet |
| 11:58.58 | Demonette | do i have to compile it or similar? |
| 11:59.04 | Dekar | no |
| 11:59.07 | Demonette | =/ |
| 12:00.11 | Demonette | No... idea... -.- |
| 12:00.19 | Dekar | send me your map ! |
| 12:00.23 | Dekar | maybe i can fix it |
| 12:00.25 | Dekar | somehow |
| 12:00.29 | Dekar | with ... magic! |
| 12:00.53 | Dekar | or actually |
| 12:00.56 | Dekar | i just copy the copy |
| 12:01.10 | Dekar | code |
| 12:01.23 | Demonette | all i get is an empty function... void gf_CreateControlButton (text lp_name, string lp_image, text lp_tooltip, int lp_x, int lp_y, int lp_dialogitemVar) { } |
| 12:01.27 | Demonette | oO |
| 12:01.52 | Dekar | did you delete the custom code? |
| 12:02.02 | Dekar | ^^ |
| 12:03.04 | Demonette | nope |
| 12:03.14 | Demonette | the code is still there... |
| 12:03.24 | Demonette | it just doesn't want to be a code.. |
| 12:05.38 | Deaod | woha, someone using IPv6? |
| 12:05.51 | Deaod | interesting. |
| 12:06.01 | Dekar | who? |
| 12:06.14 | Dekar | Demonette where is the dialog item to be created? |
| 12:06.27 | Dekar | ist that grammar correct? |
| 12:06.28 | Dekar | :S |
| 12:06.48 | Dekar | are you german? |
| 12:06.53 | Dekar | :o |
| 12:06.57 | Demonette | yeah... |
| 12:07.08 | Demonette | so localisation fucked up i guess? |
| 12:07.14 | Dekar | im german too! |
| 12:07.19 | Dekar | but i use the english editor |
| 12:07.23 | Demonette | XD |
| 12:07.28 | Dekar | and your ip is from london |
| 12:07.31 | Dekar | so i was quite ocnfused |
| 12:07.33 | Dekar | xD |
| 12:07.54 | Demonette | Dialogs > Control-Dialog |
| 12:08.03 | Demonette | there is the action i want to work... |
| 12:08.13 | Dekar | and where is it called? |
| 12:08.17 | Demonette | sry the trigger structure is a real mess |
| 12:08.25 | Dekar | ah i know |
| 12:08.29 | Dekar | *deleted the action* |
| 12:08.31 | Dekar | melee init! |
| 12:08.43 | Demonette | It's called CreateControlButtom |
| 12:08.50 | Demonette | yeah... used in the melee init... |
| 12:09.01 | Demonette | or in the map init i guess |
| 12:09.03 | Demonette | what ever |
| 12:11.13 | Demonette | and? XD |
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| 12:13.21 | Dekar | i have troubling writing debug code in custom code xD |
| 12:13.41 | Dekar | oh wow |
| 12:13.43 | Dekar | now it got messed up |
| 12:13.44 | Dekar | :P |
| 12:13.55 | Dekar | suddenly all strings broke |
| 12:14.40 | Demonette | yeeeaaahhh =D |
| 12:17.40 | MrOp | can text tags only be created at melee int... |
| 12:17.51 | MrOp | or can i make a trigger to turn them on and off |
| 12:18.51 | Dekar | you can always create them |
| 12:19.19 | MrOp | can you show me a trigger i can right that is linked to a text trigger |
| 12:19.33 | MrOp | like TTon/ TToff |
| 12:19.46 | MrOp | i know how to create text triggers |
| 12:20.00 | MrOp | but it didnt seem to work when i tried it |
| 12:20.08 | MrOp | using the GUI |
| 12:22.18 | Demonette | Mmhh |
| 12:23.48 | Dekar | Demonette i have no idea what is wrong |
| 12:23.55 | Dekar | my script shows the included custom script |
| 12:23.57 | Demonette | I too... =( |
| 12:24.02 | Dekar | but in your map it doesnt work |
| 12:24.04 | Dekar | :( |
| 12:24.17 | Demonette | ...betamap? |
| 12:24.29 | Demonette | no idea |
| 12:24.35 | Demonette | but thx for your effort... |
| 12:24.36 | Demonette | s |
| 12:24.37 | Dekar | my map is 1.2 |
| 12:25.12 | Demonette | oh all i wanted to say with that that this map is a project i started back in beta days... |
| 12:25.19 | Dekar | maybe thats why |
| 12:25.21 | Demonette | so maybe there are some... well... |
| 12:25.23 | Demonette | problems |
| 12:25.26 | Dekar | yeah lol |
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| 12:25.36 | Demonette | =/ |
| 12:25.37 | Dekar | you should copy the stuff over |
| 12:25.39 | Dekar | to a new map |
| 12:25.55 | Demonette | oh... yea as that is no problem at all... |
| 12:25.57 | Demonette | oO |
| 12:26.08 | Demonette | i will see... |
| 12:26.16 | Demonette | damned.. |
| 12:28.36 | Dekar | neither works in a new map D: |
| 12:30.13 | MrOp | night/morning everyone |
| 12:30.15 | Dekar | ugh |
| 12:30.18 | Dekar | demonette |
| 12:30.19 | Dekar | i think |
| 12:30.28 | Dekar | activating that sub function thing |
| 12:30.31 | Dekar | makes it works |
| 12:30.33 | Dekar | >-< |
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| 12:30.56 | Demonette | you tested that? |
| 12:31.24 | Dekar | it gives me my debug message at least |
| 12:31.32 | Demonette | *sigh* i'll try... |
| 12:31.41 | Dekar | and it appears you can keep your parameter |
| 12:31.59 | Dekar | but i didnt got the button to display yet |
| 12:31.59 | Demonette | so odd |
| 12:32.54 | Demonette | my problem is that i doesn't become a global function somehow... |
| 12:33.10 | Dekar | i think it breaks too |
| 12:33.26 | Icebane | Morning! |
| 12:35.31 | Demonette | morning bane |
| 12:40.32 | Dekar | aaaaaaaaah |
| 12:40.34 | Dekar | i think |
| 12:40.35 | Dekar | i know |
| 12:40.37 | Dekar | >_> |
| 12:40.43 | Demonette | yeah? |
| 12:40.44 | Dekar | now we have to use PARAM |
| 12:40.47 | Dekar | for all variables |
| 12:40.50 | Dekar | ofc! |
| 12:40.57 | Demonette | oO? |
| 12:41.06 | Demonette | are you sure? |
| 12:42.05 | DonKalypso | Has anyone ever tried to make a LoZ styled map before? |
| 12:42.12 | Dekar | whats loz? |
| 12:42.19 | DonKalypso | Legend of Zelda |
| 12:42.27 | Dekar | all lp_something variables have to be accessed with PARAM |
| 12:42.32 | Dekar | and their id |
| 12:43.32 | Dekar | woot |
| 12:43.34 | Dekar | i got it to work |
| 12:43.47 | DonKalypso | It's a top-down action adventure game. |
| 12:43.49 | Dekar | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:43.57 | Dekar | libNtve_gf_CreateDialogItemButton(DialogLastCreated(), 72, 72, c_anchorTopLeft, #PARAM(x), #PARAM(y), #PARAM(tooltip), #PARAM(name), ""); |
| 12:43.58 | Dekar | #PARAM(dialogitemVar) = DialogControlLastCreated(); |
| 12:43.58 | Dekar | libNtve_gf_CreateDialogItemImage(DialogLastCreated(), 56, 56, c_anchorTopLeft, (#PARAM(x) + 8), (#PARAM(y) + 8), StringExternal("Param/Value/0504D6FC"), #PARAM(image), c_triggerImageTypeNormal, false, Color(100,100,100), c_triggerBlendModeAdd); |
| 12:43.58 | Dekar | DialogControlFadeTransparency(DialogControlLastCreated(), PlayerGroupAll(), 0.0, 66.67); |
| 12:44.12 | Dekar | i call it |
| 12:44.15 | Dekar | THE SUBFUNCTION HACK |
| 12:44.33 | Demonette | and that's working now? |
| 12:44.44 | Dekar | yes |
| 12:44.48 | Demonette | oO |
| 12:44.50 | Dekar | didnt check if the variable is set |
| 12:44.53 | Dekar | but it should |
| 12:45.19 | Clord | hopefully 1.3.0 comes soon to europe too (aka it gets released to "real" servers) |
| 12:47.35 | Demonette | Wow i got a button =) |
| 12:47.43 | Dekar | :D |
| 12:47.49 | Dekar | yes |
| 12:47.50 | Demonette | the var is set right |
| 12:47.53 | Dekar | it is stored too |
| 12:47.56 | Dekar | wohoo! |
| 12:48.08 | Demonette | But the tooltip is missing =P |
| 12:48.10 | Demonette | XD |
| 12:48.15 | Dekar | :p |
| 12:48.44 | Dekar | i should write a tutorial abuot how to use custom code functions with parameters |
| 12:48.57 | Dekar | with gui |
| 12:49.07 | Dekar | mingling |
| 12:49.15 | Demonette | XD |
| 12:49.28 | Icebane | I really wouldn't call the game anything with Zelda in it :P |
| 12:49.46 | Demonette | Mmmhh |
| 12:50.11 | Icebane | I'm not sure but I think Nintendo has the rights for it |
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| 12:50.45 | AgentPaper | is there any way to combine regions? |
| 12:51.10 | Dekar | add region to region trigger? |
| 12:51.13 | AgentPaper | like, to combine a bunch of pre-existing ones, not add a new region to another one |
| 12:51.37 | AgentPaper | well I mean just in the map editor, lol |
| 12:51.54 | Dekar | if you doubleclick one? |
| 12:52.24 | Dekar | then there might be |
| 12:52.27 | Dekar | what you are looking for |
| 12:52.33 | AgentPaper | that lets me add new regions, but there doesn't seem to be a way to combine, darn |
| 12:53.27 | Dekar | add region to region trigger :p |
| 12:53.40 | Dekar | you know you want to! |
| 12:54.09 | Dekar | hmm |
| 12:54.11 | Dekar | i wonder |
| 12:54.46 | Dekar | if we can use gui to create variable names |
| 12:54.49 | Demonette | Awwwhhh i'm so impressed =D |
| 12:55.05 | Dekar | and then put them into the SUBFUCNTION HACKED action |
| 12:55.13 | Dekar | and use their macro to build some function |
| 12:55.16 | Dekar | that like |
| 12:55.25 | Dekar | automatically runs over all units for example |
| 12:55.36 | Demonette | ? |
| 12:55.36 | Dekar | or ordered regions with names region 1 to region x |
| 12:55.56 | Dekar | if we have 200 regions on our map |
| 12:55.58 | Demonette | You want buttons on unit walking around? XD |
| 12:56.00 | Dekar | and we want to easily combine them |
| 12:56.13 | Dekar | and the regions are called region 1 to region 200 |
| 12:56.16 | Demonette | Think i can't follow... |
| 12:56.21 | Dekar | oh come on |
| 12:56.24 | Dekar | region 1 to region 200 |
| 12:56.28 | Dekar | how hard is that to follow? |
| 12:56.29 | Dekar | :P |
| 12:56.39 | Demonette | XD |
| 12:56.41 | Demonette | you lost me earlier... |
| 12:56.43 | Demonette | not at 1 to 200 |
| 12:56.49 | Dekar | i started again for you |
| 12:57.00 | Demonette | not sure what a subfunction hack has to do with combining regions |
| 12:57.06 | Dekar | and now we want to combine the regions |
| 12:57.11 | AgentPaper | aha, found it |
| 12:57.21 | Dekar | with add region to region |
| 12:57.27 | AgentPaper | you have to select the regions you want to combine, then hit numpad 0 |
| 12:57.29 | Dekar | we have to give it the region name |
| 12:57.44 | AgentPaper | or since I don't have a numpad, I changed the keybind to alt+c |
| 12:57.48 | Icebane | Guys I have this code that works just fine if I just drop the item. http://pastebin.com/KWr5Zr8Z |
| 12:57.52 | Icebane | but if the unit dies |
| 12:58.44 | Dekar | but the problem is, we cant pass ids to functions |
| 12:58.49 | Dekar | only references through variables |
| 12:59.00 | Icebane | I get this error saying: "Parameter out of bounds" for both the TechTreeUpgradeCount and the TechTreeUpgradeAddLevel |
| 12:59.20 | Dekar | and saving all regions in their own variable takes a long time |
| 12:59.35 | Icebane | anyone have an idea? |
| 12:59.35 | Dekar | hmm |
| 13:00.58 | Dekar | and we have this function: #PARAM(var)=#PARAM(var) #PARAM(operator) #PARAM(val); |
| 13:01.01 | Dekar | for modify variable |
| 13:01.07 | Demonette | Dekar... why do i have to use StringExternal("...") and can't just use "" ? |
| 13:01.07 | Dekar | its completly built by parameters |
| 13:01.19 | Dekar | you can use it i guess? |
| 13:01.23 | Dekar | but you may want to |
| 13:01.25 | Dekar | use |
| 13:01.33 | Dekar | StringToText("") |
| 13:02.34 | Demonette | Awwh =3 |
| 13:02.57 | Demonette | works like a charm |
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| 13:04.04 | Demonette | Para fuctions =D |
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| 13:14.01 | Abstruse | burn it down |
| 13:18.55 | Demonette | Yey!! burn abstruse down =) |
| 13:26.12 | Dekar | yay |
| 13:26.41 | AgentPaper | hm, what's a good name for a freeze-ray tower? |
| 13:36.09 | Dekar | freeze ray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDD-SP2iaa8 |
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| 13:37.11 | Dekar | call it "not a death ray" |
| 13:40.10 | Dekar | dr. horrible's freeze ray tower :3 |
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| 13:53.08 | Demonette | Dr horrible =D awwwwhh |
| 13:58.48 | Abstruse | burn it down |
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| 13:59.37 | AgentPaper | lesse, how would I make my spinecrawler deal knockback damage? |
| 14:00.13 | AgentPaper | wait, nm I need to trigger this since the knockback depens on the target's HP |
| 14:00.16 | Demonette | knochback? so that the enemy got pushed away from the crawler? |
| 14:00.21 | AgentPaper | yah |
| 14:00.35 | Demonette | think you could attached a force effect to it |
| 14:01.01 | AgentPaper | force effect? |
| 14:01.13 | Abstruse | esplode |
| 14:01.17 | Demonette | yeah... like the sucking of the vortex... only the other way around |
| 14:02.04 | Demonette | and if the damage dealt is based on the life target... mmhh... that one will be a little more tricky |
| 14:02.22 | AgentPaper | max life of the target specifically |
| 14:02.25 | Demonette | but you can add a modify effect to the target... but that would mess with units having shield |
| 14:02.29 | AgentPaper | could also be based on their armor or armor level tho |
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| 14:02.52 | Demonette | how should the calculation be like? |
| 14:02.56 | AgentPaper | oh, wait no it couldn't |
| 14:03.23 | Demonette | it couldn't? |
| 14:03.23 | AgentPaper | if the unit's max HP is less, it gets knocked back more, if higher, it moves less |
| 14:03.39 | AgentPaper | sorry, I meant it can't scale off armor or armor level |
| 14:03.48 | AgentPaper | those wouldn't scale right for some parts |
| 14:03.53 | AgentPaper | bosses especially |
| 14:04.05 | Demonette | well you could use an set... |
| 14:04.10 | AgentPaper | hm, maybe I should have my spine crawler tower do something else... |
| 14:04.18 | Abstruse | explosions? |
| 14:04.44 | Demonette | that checks in which bounds the max HP of the target lies.. |
| 14:04.46 | AgentPaper | maybe it latches onto them and sucks their life out? |
| 14:04.59 | AgentPaper | increasing damage over time |
| 14:05.04 | AgentPaper | up to a max of course |
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| 14:05.40 | Demonette | you could make them tangling the target =P as more crawlers catch them as lesser they can move... XD |
| 14:05.48 | AgentPaper | lol |
| 14:05.55 | Demonette | until they can't move anymore like being the a web of a spider =D |
| 14:06.01 | AgentPaper | naw I already got cold slow and poison slow |
| 14:06.05 | Demonette | =P |
| 14:06.19 | AgentPaper | hm, actually |
| 14:06.27 | AgentPaper | I'm going to drop poison slow, this is much cooler lol |
| 14:06.37 | Demonette | i think freeze tower sucks =P okay.. well i don't öike towerdefense too much XD |
| 14:06.39 | AgentPaper | It'll still be an increasing effect tho |
| 14:06.48 | AgentPaper | like every second up to 5 stacks per tower |
| 14:06.53 | Demonette | i think that backknock was a nice idea |
| 14:06.56 | AgentPaper | hm, and still based on unit max HP |
| 14:07.08 | Demonette | knockback... |
| 14:07.25 | AgentPaper | I could have that on a different tower |
| 14:07.35 | AgentPaper | one that knocks everything near the target back a bit |
| 14:07.37 | Demonette | or that... |
| 14:07.44 | AgentPaper | my siege cannon probably |
| 14:07.44 | Demonette | mmhh |
| 14:08.02 | Demonette | make me think of the psi-disrupter... |
| 14:08.15 | AgentPaper | hm, maybe I'll have my photon cannon suck stuff in xD |
| 14:08.16 | Demonette | as they got those little schockwaves around them... |
| 14:08.32 | AgentPaper | psi-disruptor is a debuff tower |
| 14:08.35 | AgentPaper | reduces armor and damage |
| 14:08.45 | AgentPaper | (you can use units to tank the creeps) |
| 14:08.48 | Demonette | I'll never like tower defenses XD |
| 14:09.02 | Demonette | yeah yea... do it like you want =D |
| 14:09.09 | AgentPaper | ;) |
| 14:09.12 | Demonette | ;) |
| 14:09.23 | AgentPaper | so anyways, back to the spine crawler...how do I do that? |
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| 14:09.37 | Demonette | what exactly? |
| 14:09.44 | AgentPaper | to be clear, I want it to latch onto the unit until it dies (or the player tells it to attack something else) |
| 14:10.04 | AgentPaper | I want it to deal increasing damage and also slow the unit (perhaps also increasing) based on the unit's max HP |
| 14:10.20 | AgentPaper | I suspect I'll have to trigger the slow bit |
| 14:10.21 | Demonette | mmhh.. sounds like the infestor neural parasit... from the basic mechanic... |
| 14:10.31 | AgentPaper | yeah kinda |
| 14:10.34 | AgentPaper | minus the mind control |
| 14:10.54 | Demonette | based on the HP you should make the effect that is used an set |
| 14:11.19 | AgentPaper | what? |
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| 14:11.46 | Demonette | and create validators that set the HP bounds you have to cover... like unit max HP is between 0-100 // 100-500 // and so on... |
| 14:11.48 | AgentPaper | ok let's start with this, how do I make the spine crawler not pull back after each attack? |
| 14:13.17 | Demonette | actually not to sure... i would look / copy it from the neural parasit... |
| 14:13.59 | Demonette | sadly haven't mapped a while =( i'll look what i can find... |
| 14:14.38 | Dekar | no idea but try the mover of the attack, it should have the return option set |
| 14:15.25 | Dekar | somewhere |
| 14:15.26 | Dekar | :p |
| 14:17.43 | Demonette | Dekar is back =D |
| 14:17.50 | Dekar | yay im back |
| 14:17.55 | Demonette | Awwwhh |
| 14:18.01 | Demonette | Dr Horrible is cute!! XD |
| 14:22.35 | Dekar | :D |
| 14:22.51 | Dekar | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ypp1y9zfAv8 this is my favorite song |
| 14:23.07 | Demonette | I think i like slippy more... |
| 14:23.33 | Demonette | slipping i mean |
| 14:23.40 | Demonette | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owOVFgg10pM&feature=related |
| 14:26.50 | Demonette | and brand new day =D |
| 14:28.48 | Abstruse | wqhatup |
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| 14:29.07 | Demonette | Wasssa! |
| 14:29.25 | Abstruse | well |
| 14:29.29 | Abstruse | i watcxhed that last video |
| 14:29.36 | Abstruse | he didn't want to burn things down bad enough |
| 14:31.55 | Demonette | You just don't have the skillz to be an supervillain! |
| 14:32.06 | Demonette | =P |
| 14:33.07 | Abstruse | psh supervillians get super fucked |
| 14:33.27 | Abstruse | just light something on fire and let the fire do the job |
| 14:35.15 | Demonette | yeah.. as i said =P you lack of skillz ^^ you need other to do that job... |
| 14:38.59 | Dekar | but you dont get underlings as long as you are not in THE EVIL LEAGUE OF EVIL |
| 14:39.27 | Demonette | oO |
| 14:39.36 | Demonette | He had an underling! |
| 14:39.45 | Demonette | moist was his name... or similar XD |
| 14:40.09 | Dekar | he can make stuff moist |
| 14:40.58 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 14:41.29 | Demonette | maybe not the best skill eva XD |
| 14:43.04 | JademusSreg | Beware the Thoroughbred of Sin. |
| 14:43.11 | AgentPaper | use it on women |
| 14:44.38 | Demonette | and that shall do what exactly? |
| 14:45.04 | Demonette | when used on women? |
| 14:47.06 | Demonette | I fu i hate eclipse -.- |
| 14:47.07 | Clord | woman + moist = fanservice |
| 14:47.08 | Clord | XD |
| 14:48.09 | Demonette | You have a weird way of putting thing together... |
| 14:48.26 | JManV|Work | can you add hotkeys to a custom menu item? |
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| 14:50.13 | AgentPaper | woot, got it working |
| 14:50.22 | AgentPaper | I just had to increase the return delay |
| 14:50.29 | AgentPaper | in the launch missile actor |
| 14:50.45 | Clord | demonette.. it is not that hard XD |
| 14:51.48 | Demonette | It just doesn't sounds sane to me... ^^ nothing against you clord |
| 14:52.59 | AgentPaper | ok, now how do I make an attack apply a behavior, like a DoT? |
| 14:53.38 | AgentPaper | specifically one that stacks up to 5 or so and multiple towers can each stack independently |
| 14:53.43 | Demonette | effect add behaviour |
| 14:53.55 | AgentPaper | new effect, or can I use the damage effect? |
| 14:54.02 | Demonette | mmmhh |
| 14:54.05 | Demonette | make a set effect |
| 14:54.06 | Dekar | i think marauders use a set effect |
| 14:54.08 | Demonette | that does both |
| 14:54.16 | Demonette | damage and add behaviour |
| 14:54.24 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 14:54.26 | Demonette | as i said |
| 14:54.47 | Demonette | make the behavior stackable |
| 14:55.06 | Demonette | there is also a max stack value you should set to 5 |
| 14:55.08 | Demonette | mmmhh |
| 14:55.16 | Demonette | what else? think that should it been then |
| 14:55.43 | AgentPaper | if I make the max stack 5 though |
| 14:55.57 | AgentPaper | won't it make it so if two towers attack the same target, it still only stacks to 5 total? |
| 14:55.57 | Clord | lol there is characters like that... in anime etc |
| 14:56.04 | AgentPaper | or will it stack to 5 individually for each? |
| 14:56.07 | Clord | they hardly can even speak proper japanese in them XD |
| 14:56.12 | Clord | yet they are very very sane |
| 14:56.19 | Demonette | Mmmhh can't you set 5 per caster= |
| 14:56.28 | AgentPaper | ah goody |
| 14:56.39 | Demonette | who is sane? oO |
| 14:56.42 | AgentPaper | anyways how do I make an effect add a behavior? |
| 14:56.45 | AgentPaper | what field that is |
| 14:56.48 | Demonette | XD |
| 14:56.59 | Demonette | there are different types of effect |
| 14:57.06 | Demonette | and there is an add behaviour effect |
| 14:57.12 | Demonette | so i think you can miss it... |
| 14:57.13 | Demonette | XD |
| 14:57.19 | AgentPaper | oh |
| 14:57.41 | AgentPaper | bah, that's why |
| 14:57.55 | AgentPaper | I can't change the spinecrawler's effect because it's part of the default or whatever |
| 14:57.57 | Clord | Demonette..... yeah that is good way to get itself sound insane.... telling everyone that "everyone else is insane expect me!" |
| 14:57.59 | Clord | XD |
| 14:58.04 | AgentPaper | I guess I have to duplicate it |
| 14:58.09 | Demonette | mh? |
| 14:58.22 | Demonette | why not just create a new effect? oO |
| 14:58.36 | AgentPaper | oh, or that I guess |
| 14:58.39 | AgentPaper | right |
| 14:58.42 | Clord | effects are hardly much work.. can just create one |
| 14:58.50 | Demonette | hehehe =D in fact i AM insane =P |
| 14:59.04 | Demonette | shy why shouldn't you be as well |
| 14:59.24 | Demonette | oh damn... |
| 14:59.29 | Clord | and who is that so called "Shy" guy? |
| 14:59.33 | Demonette | shy = so... oO |
| 14:59.36 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:59.42 | Demonette | i cast can't write i guess =) |
| 14:59.59 | Clord | few milligrams of good stuff and you see stars |
| 15:00.13 | Clord | and you get your own four wall room |
| 15:00.15 | Clord | with one door |
| 15:00.15 | Demonette | i see them without those milligrams =) |
| 15:00.27 | Clord | it is also white |
| 15:00.29 | Clord | but it is not heaven |
| 15:00.32 | Demonette | my one is red =D |
| 15:00.38 | Demonette | bloody red rooms are best =) |
| 15:00.44 | Clord | redrum! |
| 15:00.49 | Clord | XD |
| 15:01.29 | Demonette | maybe those people doesn't liked it when i started to paint my walls myself =D so i finaly got my red room =) |
| 15:02.22 | AgentPaper | so if I understand this right, max stack is the strict limit of how many stacks a unit can have on it, while max stacks per caster is how many stacks each caster can place |
| 15:02.36 | Demonette | i guess so |
| 15:02.47 | AgentPaper | so, if I set it to max stack 20 and max caster stack 5, then the first 4 will be able to stack them, but the 5th won't be able to add anything? |
| 15:03.00 | Demonette | seems like =) |
| 15:03.20 | Clord | it is kinda how many units can do it same time limit |
| 15:03.25 | Clord | lol |
| 15:03.44 | Demonette | yeah.. you could make it timelimited XD |
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| 15:04.08 | Demonette | So sad =( |
| 15:04.20 | Demonette | rouches doesn't have tentacles anymore |
| 15:04.30 | AgentPaper | =( |
| 15:04.33 | Demonette | XD |
| 15:04.34 | Clord | lol |
| 15:04.37 | Clord | I don't use sc2multi mod |
| 15:04.41 | Clord | XD |
| 15:04.52 | Demonette | has nothing to do with multi =P |
| 15:04.55 | Clord | so my stuff is fine even in few years forward |
| 15:04.58 | Clord | =) |
| 15:05.10 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 15:05.12 | Clord | my ultralisk still has retained it's against structures attack |
| 15:05.16 | AgentPaper | if I set max stack to 0, it's unlimited, yes? |
| 15:05.19 | AgentPaper | or is that -1? |
| 15:05.29 | Demonette | mmmhhh |
| 15:05.34 | Demonette | not sure about that one |
| 15:05.40 | Demonette | set it to default |
| 15:05.46 | AgentPaper | default is 1 |
| 15:05.48 | AgentPaper | =P |
| 15:05.51 | Demonette | Mmmhh |
| 15:05.57 | Demonette | try it out? XD |
| 15:06.05 | Demonette | i would say -1 is unlimited |
| 15:06.06 | AgentPaper | sure |
| 15:06.13 | AgentPaper | first I'll set it to 1k or w/e |
| 15:06.16 | Clord | I wonder how many popular maps has done that mistake and use sc2multi and get screwed during every major patch XD |
| 15:06.19 | AgentPaper | just to be sure |
| 15:06.25 | Demonette | but 0 would make no sense as well |
| 15:06.39 | Demonette | Ohw i use sometimes sc2multi =P |
| 15:06.52 | Demonette | but i think there can't happen to much as they are melee maps XD |
| 15:07.03 | Clord | well |
| 15:07.07 | Clord | many reported broken maps |
| 15:07.09 | Clord | after patches |
| 15:07.12 | Clord | because they used it |
| 15:07.32 | Demonette | Well that was to expect... if you don't built you stuff from scratch |
| 15:07.39 | Demonette | rrrr |
| 15:07.42 | Demonette | youR |
| 15:07.54 | Demonette | =( |
| 15:07.57 | Clord | plus with campaign dependency... you get same stuff anyways expect you don't suddenly get broken map.... and your ultralisk is still cooler ;) |
| 15:07.58 | Demonette | i give it up |
| 15:08.09 | Demonette | =P |
| 15:08.35 | Demonette | campaign dependey messed up the creeptumor all the time =/ |
| 15:08.50 | Clord | odd |
| 15:08.58 | Demonette | unhidden tumors =/ |
| 15:09.04 | Demonette | can't be bader XD |
| 15:09.33 | Clord | hehe.. my map happily reap rewards when major patch hits |
| 15:09.38 | Clord | and people start to swear those authors |
| 15:09.40 | Clord | lol |
| 15:09.41 | AgentPaper | uh, how do I make a bheavior deal damage? |
| 15:09.44 | AgentPaper | behavior* |
| 15:09.58 | AgentPaper | do I have to make an effect? |
| 15:10.07 | Clord | persistent effect |
| 15:10.12 | Clord | that sounds about right |
| 15:10.56 | Demonette | yeag |
| 15:11.02 | Demonette | yeah persistent effect |
| 15:11.10 | Demonette | you are pretty new to data editor? XD |
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| 15:14.23 | Clord | AgentPaper just got to secret service |
| 15:14.28 | Clord | he is rookie ^^ |
| 15:14.37 | Clord | he has yet to solve any Data Editor case ;) |
| 15:14.38 | Demonette | who is rookie? =/ |
| 15:14.52 | Clord | you remind of one of my finnish friends |
| 15:14.57 | Clord | lol |
| 15:15.03 | Clord | always need explaining |
| 15:15.07 | Clord | I mean back then long ago XD |
| 15:15.10 | Demonette | yeah i do =) |
| 15:15.19 | Clord | he -> agentpaper |
| 15:15.20 | Clord | got it? |
| 15:15.27 | Demonette | Mmmhh... |
| 15:15.30 | Demonette | hope so ^^ |
| 15:15.39 | Clord | lol... smartass ;) |
| 15:15.52 | Demonette | =( |
| 15:15.59 | Demonette | ! |
| 15:16.03 | Demonette | i |
| 15:16.06 | Demonette | =/ |
| 15:16.12 | Clord | http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/03/02/dissidia_duodecim_final_fantasy_bits/ |
| 15:16.13 | Demonette | that doesn't look write... |
| 15:16.14 | Clord | transfer rocks |
| 15:16.24 | Clord | ^^ |
| 15:16.29 | Demonette | i wanted to turn the exclaimationmark faceover... |
| 15:16.33 | Clord | it is rare feature in games |
| 15:16.59 | AgentPaper | hey, I'm getting better |
| 15:17.58 | Demonette | good stuff then =) |
| 15:18.20 | Demonette | I need some music... |
| 15:19.31 | Clord | messageboard is partially in mode "when it is gonna leak to internet" |
| 15:19.32 | Clord | XD |
| 15:20.51 | Demonette | =/ i cared to less about my thread =( |
| 15:24.44 | Clord | hehe final boss as fully playable (officially) |
| 15:24.44 | Clord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrhDnia5dG4 |
| 15:24.59 | Clord | nice dissidia 012 - Final Fanasy |
| 15:25.00 | Clord | ^^ |
| 15:25.42 | Clord | reminds of tekken 3 kinda.... for make boss playable... they made them pushovers XD |
| 15:25.46 | Demonette | Looks a little like a crazy brutalisk... XD |
| 15:25.54 | Clord | hehe |
| 15:26.00 | Demonette | vs zealot? XD |
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| 15:26.54 | AgentPaper | can you set the amount of stacks for a behavior? Or can you only add/remove them? |
| 15:27.41 | Demonette | Mhh.. you could remove all and then add an specific amount |
| 15:28.20 | Clord | no problem |
| 15:28.25 | Clord | adding and removing |
| 15:28.27 | Clord | still obeys the limit |
| 15:28.30 | Clord | I know as I use it so |
| 15:28.47 | Clord | you can make trigger add behavior even if unit has it... but it still does not make it stack |
| 15:28.48 | AgentPaper | mk, that's not too hard to deal with actually |
| 15:28.51 | Clord | if your behavior is set so |
| 15:29.21 | Clord | using trigger way to add/remove behavior... does not ignore limits |
| 15:29.30 | Clord | it is also very useful that way ^^ |
| 15:30.06 | Clord | in THE Card Game I have "emperor's will" structure... what adds behavior to your field units every game time second... and removes it every game time second if there is none of them =) |
| 15:30.11 | Clord | sounds wonderfully |
| 15:30.14 | Clord | works |
| 15:32.12 | Demonette | Mmmhh... can i make "round" buttons with SC2 UI? |
| 15:32.23 | AgentPaper | ok, one more question. When you have effects that stack and also have a duration, how do you set whether each application refreshes the stack or not? |
| 15:32.25 | Abstruse | see the blind man shooting at the world! |
| 15:32.27 | Demonette | or lets say also more complicate shaped... |
| 15:32.30 | Abstruse | bullets flying! |
| 15:32.32 | Abstruse | taking toll |
| 15:32.55 | Abstruse | if you've been bad |
| 15:32.58 | Abstruse | oh lord, i bet you have |
| 15:33.02 | Demonette | you mean the time get refreshed? |
| 15:33.17 | Demonette | i think each single "step" got it's own timer |
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| 15:35.43 | Clord | true reason why tons of games reset buff expiration timer when more buff is stacked... they was too lazy to implement it better ;) |
| 15:35.48 | Clord | and call it "feature" XD |
| 15:35.51 | Clord | just joking ^^ |
| 15:36.29 | Demonette | i think you can set an "refresh" event... but haven't used that so far... so dunno how it really works |
| 15:36.37 | Demonette | Clordy ? =P |
| 15:36.44 | Demonette | can you answer my question? |
| 15:37.03 | Demonette | Pliaese! |
| 15:37.07 | Demonette | or just please =P |
| 15:37.21 | Clord | pile arse? no thanks XD |
| 15:37.43 | Demonette | -.- |
| 15:37.45 | Demonette | no! |
| 15:37.46 | Clord | lol |
| 15:38.01 | AgentPaper | oh, that's where I saw this that made me think it was possible |
| 15:38.03 | Demonette | do you know if i can set "shapes" for buttons? |
| 15:38.13 | Clord | well... you can fake it |
| 15:38.14 | AgentPaper | apparently the "refresh stack" option is coming in 1.3 =P |
| 15:38.15 | Demonette | like not the basic boxes... |
| 15:38.16 | Clord | make them look like round |
| 15:38.23 | Clord | but still be clickable like square one |
| 15:38.30 | Demonette | yeah.. but they will still be selected as squares... |
| 15:38.31 | Demonette | damn |
| 15:38.35 | Demonette | so all for nothing |
| 15:38.38 | Demonette | thx ^^ |
| 15:38.53 | Clord | lol..... tons of games do that |
| 15:38.58 | Clord | even if they make them look round |
| 15:39.04 | AgentPaper | you could make your own click position detection |
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| 15:39.19 | Demonette | yeah... but could be a little bit of a work |
| 15:39.19 | AgentPaper | detect the click and it's position on the screen |
| 15:39.23 | AgentPaper | yup |
| 15:39.28 | AgentPaper | just a bit =P |
| 15:39.30 | Demonette | nut well i'm not the coder XD |
| 15:39.44 | AgentPaper | pester your coder about it then =P |
| 15:39.45 | Demonette | so i can leave the work to others XD |
| 15:40.06 | Clord | mouse track detection |
| 15:40.10 | Clord | what an juicy solution |
| 15:40.11 | Clord | XD |
| 15:40.21 | Clord | (and not very mapper friendly lol) |
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| 15:41.06 | Demonette | But would be really nice to have a shaped buttons asset =P |
| 15:41.20 | Demonette | i think that will really be something helral be happy about XD |
| 15:41.48 | Demonette | Omg that sentence... |
| 15:41.50 | Demonette | just ignore it -.- |
| 15:43.46 | JManV|Work | zomg |
| 15:43.55 | JManV|Work | no wonder my computer is slow today |
| 15:44.01 | Demonette | Rumpelstilzchen =D |
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| 15:45.53 | JManV|Work | http://i56.tinypic.com/295btps.png\ |
| 15:45.57 | JManV|Work | oops |
| 15:45.59 | JManV|Work | http://i56.tinypic.com/295btps.png |
| 15:46.07 | JManV|Work | *way* too many programs running :P |
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| 15:47.15 | JManV|Work | 16 explorer windows open |
| 15:47.34 | Demonette | wtf? XD |
| 15:47.49 | JManV|Work | i have like 0 RAM available |
| 15:47.57 | Demonette | thats looks bader then my one XD |
| 15:47.59 | JManV|Work | i started look around and realized why very quickly |
| 15:48.41 | Demonette | you open sc2 twice? or is it the debugger? |
| 15:48.47 | JManV|Work | debugger |
| 15:48.57 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 15:49.04 | JManV|Work | dunno why i have 2 notepad icons |
| 15:49.35 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 15:49.51 | JManV|Work | i also had like 8 excel sheets open |
| 15:49.55 | JManV|Work | taking forever to close them all |
| 15:50.02 | Demonette | winamp =D |
| 15:50.11 | JManV|Work | ftw :P |
| 15:50.19 | Demonette | do you never close you stuff? ^^ |
| 15:50.27 | JManV|Work | apparently not :P |
| 15:50.34 | Demonette | do you turn off your PC sometimes? XD |
| 15:50.41 | JManV|Work | no, never |
| 15:50.52 | Demonette | maybe when you go to sleep... oh wait... do you sleep? |
| 15:51.09 | JManV|Work | yeah, but i don't shut my computer down |
| 15:51.15 | JManV|Work | this is work PC anyways |
| 15:51.19 | JManV|Work | i just lock it when i leave |
| 15:51.36 | Demonette | =( thats so rude... he will never get sweet dreams then |
| 15:52.18 | Demonette | Your pc is working like a slave man XD |
| 15:52.19 | JManV|Work | it's a lot faster now |
| 15:52.34 | JManV|Work | still a little low on the RAM tho |
| 15:52.44 | JManV|Work | if i start doing too much, it will slow down again |
| 15:52.58 | Demonette | maybe he take breath before he have to rebuilt the pyramids? ^^ |
| 15:53.19 | JManV|Work | hey, at least i didn't have 40 IE windows open |
| 15:53.22 | JManV|Work | that's the norm for me :P |
| 15:53.34 | Demonette | hehe ^^ |
| 15:53.43 | JManV|Work | i forget that bookmarks exist, so i just leave a page open... for days |
| 15:54.17 | Demonette | ^^ doesn't it overheat sometimes? XD |
| 15:54.18 | JManV|Work | i'm getting a little better about that |
| 15:54.28 | JManV|Work | no actually |
| 15:54.30 | Demonette | or getting some other issues... like restart for installation? |
| 15:54.41 | JManV|Work | work PC isn't abused as badly as home PC |
| 15:54.49 | JManV|Work | home PC has massive cooling |
| 15:54.55 | JManV|Work | and more RAM and processor |
| 15:55.04 | Demonette | so that your work PC? |
| 15:55.11 | JManV|Work | yeah :P |
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| 15:55.37 | JManV|Work | work PC is actually an old server tower |
| 15:55.39 | Demonette | you chef know about sc2 running on it? ^^ |
| 15:55.57 | JManV|Work | ofc not :P |
| 15:56.12 | JManV|Work | work comp has 2x Xeon 3.4 processors :P |
| 15:56.23 | Demonette | how could he XD it's only visible in the task line 3 times XD |
| 15:56.47 | JManV|Work | i very rarely actually run SC2 at work |
| 15:57.01 | Demonette | better so ;) |
| 15:57.04 | JManV|Work | and the editor icon doesn't look like anything if you don't know what you're looking for |
| 15:57.16 | Demonette | else you have to tell him it's the newest security software XD |
| 15:57.33 | Demonette | Maybe he playes Sc2 himself =P |
| 15:58.15 | JManV|Work | not likely :P |
| 15:58.48 | JManV|Work | every time i run the editor tho, i have to delete it from my recent used list :P |
| 15:58.57 | Demonette | hehehe ^^ |
| 15:59.04 | JManV|Work | those 10 or so programs in the start menu |
| 15:59.08 | Demonette | so your chef is more and ego shooter player? XD |
| 15:59.15 | JManV|Work | there's no way to make a program not show up there |
| 15:59.55 | Demonette | I think except for sc2 your task list seems pretty worky like =P |
| 16:00.12 | JManV|Work | that's cuz it's all work stuff |
| 16:00.26 | JManV|Work | except maybe a notepad or two |
| 16:00.32 | JManV|Work | and a browser window or two |
| 16:00.43 | JManV|Work | i really do mostly do work at work |
| 16:00.54 | JManV|Work | but there a luls and down-time sometimes |
| 16:00.59 | Demonette | and yahoo meesenger... |
| 16:01.20 | JManV|Work | our work actually used YIM |
| 16:01.35 | JManV|Work | we've recently switched to OCS, but YIM is a carry-over |
| 16:01.51 | Demonette | nice ^^ |
| 16:02.10 | JManV|Work | but i only still have it cuz my gf messages me sometimes |
| 16:02.18 | JManV|Work | but my boss wouldn't care one bit about that |
| 16:02.24 | JManV|Work | his wife does the same |
| 16:02.53 | Demonette | Look like you got the right job ha? ^^ |
| 16:03.17 | JManV|Work | i think so :) |
| 16:03.39 | Demonette | So should i run for a walk or just play sc2? =/ |
| 16:03.49 | Demonette | awwhh... decisions -.- |
| 16:04.15 | JManV|Work | i don't know... going for a walk almost sounds productive |
| 16:04.36 | JManV|Work | you wouldn't want to actually accomplish something now, would you? |
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| 16:05.27 | JManV|Work | where do you live? the weather here sucks far too bad to even consider a walk/run |
| 16:05.28 | Demonette | I never accomblish anything i think... being alive is works for me most of the time =D |
| 16:06.03 | Demonette | i think the wheater is.. uhm fine =D |
| 16:06.07 | Demonette | not to hot... |
| 16:06.16 | Demonette | a little cold eventually but good enough |
| 16:06.28 | JManV|Work | yeah, we're covered in ice and slush |
| 16:06.40 | Demonette | hahah^^ |
| 16:06.48 | JManV|Work | it snowed like what over the last week |
| 16:07.01 | JManV|Work | then it started melting, the re-freezing, then melting... |
| 16:07.07 | JManV|Work | its a mess |
| 16:07.21 | Demonette | then built me a snowman meanwhile i'm going for a short run through da city |
| 16:07.40 | Demonette | or a... messy refrezz man XD |
| 16:07.51 | JManV|Work | no one likes a show-off :P |
| 16:08.31 | Demonette | who showed off? |
| 16:08.48 | JManV|Work | just teasin' |
| 16:08.56 | JManV|Work | cuz you can run and our weather sucks |
| 16:09.22 | Demonette | i see... awwhh... there will be better day ;) else you should go on vacation |
| 16:09.27 | JManV|Work | i have a convertible... i'm /dying/ for spring to come |
| 16:09.48 | Demonette | so see ya =D |
| 16:09.57 | JademusSreg | I awaken (and have returned from the gym). |
| 16:10.06 | Demonette | bye Sreg =P |
| 16:10.08 | Demonette | XD |
| 16:10.10 | JManV|Work | enjoy your run |
| 16:10.19 | Demonette | thx |
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| 16:12.10 | JManV|Work | sup jad |
| 16:14.19 | JademusSreg | What's up? |
| 16:14.30 | JManV|Work | not much |
| 16:14.39 | JManV|Work | working hard and barely working at the same time :P |
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| 16:20.48 | JManV|Work | i need like a bazillion dialogs for my game |
| 16:21.09 | JademusSreg | Sounds simple enough. |
| 16:21.22 | JManV|Work | i did the math, and thats the exact number: 1 bazillion |
| 16:21.38 | JManV|Work | +/- 4 |
| 16:21.51 | JademusSreg | Of course, also written as 10^bozo |
| 16:22.23 | JManV|Work | yeah, but not everyone knows complex mathmatical terms like "bozo" |
| 16:23.09 | JManV|Work | i'm working on an options dialog right now |
| 16:23.17 | JManV|Work | to allow soundtrack changes |
| 16:23.32 | JademusSreg | All mathematical and computer science terms are obscure inside jokes. |
| 16:23.36 | JManV|Work | also, i'm gonna temporarily allow switching between WASD/mouse |
| 16:23.55 | JManV|Work | to get some more input before i make a final decision |
| 16:25.07 | JademusSreg | Mouse input is definitely the way to go. If only because it wouldn't handle so damn awfully. I hadn't realized the WASD was so choppy. How many triggers do you use? |
| 16:25.36 | JManV|Work | 5 |
| 16:25.51 | JademusSreg | Couldn't you use 1? |
| 16:26.00 | JManV|Work | maybe |
| 16:26.17 | JManV|Work | would require a switch statement |
| 16:26.28 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 16:26.36 | JManV|Work | there are /perhaps/ some tweaks to the movement rate/timing that could make it a little smoother |
| 16:26.37 | JademusSreg | Which just compiles to if else block. |
| 16:26.55 | JManV|Work | but i've already done a lot of that, and it still sucks |
| 16:27.08 | JManV|Work | there are some mouse issues too tho, which is why i want to get more input |
| 16:27.20 | JManV|Work | i think i've resolved most of the mouse issues tho |
| 16:27.56 | JManV|Work | i'm not 100% sure how i'll tell if the player is moving though, without checking their position every second |
| 16:28.22 | JademusSreg | I should try and develop my own WASD movement system sometime. |
| 16:28.26 | JademusSreg | Might be fun. |
| 16:28.36 | JManV|Work | its not |
| 16:29.05 | JManV|Work | (imo) |
| 16:29.19 | JManV|Work | i could maybe try to steal someone elses... /maybe/ someone has a smoother one |
| 16:29.24 | JManV|Work | again,i doubt that too |
| 16:29.40 | JManV|Work | and if it is smoother, is probably not by a great enough factor |
| 16:29.51 | JManV|Work | you think 8directional would help at all? |
| 16:30.49 | JademusSreg | I think it would make it smoother, assuming the design is more optimal. Otherwise, it will make it worse in terms of execution and net traffic. |
| 16:34.02 | JManV|Work | hmm |
| 16:34.31 | JManV|Work | right now i'm not sure how my current engine could be made much smoother |
| 16:34.54 | JademusSreg | Maybe I could script a WASD movement system for ya. =) |
| 16:34.57 | JManV|Work | i'm under the impression that multiple triggers would be faster than 1 trigger with an if/then/else |
| 16:35.32 | JManV|Work | multiple triggers pushes the if/then/else to the engine |
| 16:35.34 | AgentPaper | wewt! It's working perfectly now XD |
| 16:35.53 | AgentPaper | thanks for the help demonette |
| 16:37.30 | JManV|Work | if you think you've got some ideas, jad, i'd be happy to show you what i've got |
| 16:38.00 | JManV|Work | i also tried the "lagless" data method... found it to be slower, actually |
| 16:38.15 | JademusSreg | I'd probably just script it from scratch in galaxy to your specifications; modifying the work of others is unpleasant even in the same language. |
| 16:38.22 | JManV|Work | the update rates on the behavior just needed to be too fast and it lagged |
| 16:38.35 | JManV|Work | oh, yeah, and mine's all GUI :P |
| 16:38.51 | JademusSreg | (And that's usually because of style differences and poor code commenting.) |
| 16:38.59 | JManV|Work | hmmm |
| 16:39.03 | Abstruse | man |
| 16:39.07 | Abstruse | this laffy taffy stick |
| 16:39.08 | JManV|Work | i wonder if these debug tests are hurting me |
| 16:39.12 | Abstruse | it's one of those thin long ones |
| 16:39.15 | Abstruse | i dropped it on my desk |
| 16:39.23 | Abstruse | it shattered into 12 pieces |
| 16:39.41 | JManV|Work | they can't help... |
| 16:40.20 | JManV|Work | i have a debug engine that checks if a certain section of code is enabled for debugging before displaying debug strings |
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| 16:40.35 | JManV|Work | unfortunately, even when turned off, it still needs to call a function and check a bool |
| 16:40.51 | JademusSreg | Disable. |
| 16:40.52 | JManV|Work | i'd have to disable it entirely to truly turn it off |
| 16:41.28 | JManV|Work | yeah, but if i disable the main debug function, it disables all calls, which are not re-enabled when i re-enable the main function |
| 16:41.46 | JManV|Work | which is fine for production |
| 16:41.52 | JManV|Work | but a hassle for testing |
| 16:42.08 | JManV|Work | but i can remove the calls from tight loops that no longer need to be debugged |
| 16:42.40 | JManV|Work | i'm not sure how much that will help, but 5 function calls can't be cheap |
| 16:43.06 | JademusSreg | Not if repeated 32 times a second or however often you call them. |
| 16:43.09 | JManV|Work | esp not every 0.1 seconds |
| 16:43.25 | JademusSreg | That's closer to 16, I think. |
| 16:43.53 | JManV|Work | looks like its 8 actually |
| 16:43.56 | JManV|Work | 0.125 |
| 16:44.04 | JademusSreg | is just guessing. |
| 16:44.07 | JManV|Work | so 40 calls per second per player |
| 16:44.12 | JManV|Work | give or take |
| 16:44.19 | JManV|Work | i'm sure that adds up |
| 16:44.31 | JManV|Work | i doubt it's enough tho |
| 16:44.43 | JManV|Work | might enable me to turn the time down a little |
| 16:44.53 | JademusSreg | The game's time is based on 1/32 increments. =( |
| 16:44.56 | JManV|Work | the more often it refreshes, the smoother the movement feels |
| 16:45.04 | JManV|Work | but the more it lags |
| 16:45.27 | JManV|Work | no wonder it told me to turn my graphics settings down :P |
| 16:46.10 | JademusSreg | I am definitely tempted to write a WASD script. |
| 16:47.03 | JManV|Work | mine all pivots around this function: http://pastebin.com/hjKnGiNn |
| 16:48.10 | JManV|Work | all the key down functions call it |
| 16:49.00 | JManV|Work | the stop movement check is for when players are entering buildings and such. it's more of a "pause movement" thing |
| 16:49.27 | JManV|Work | without that, it did some weird stuff |
| 16:52.11 | JManV|Work | i think the movement itself was a little smoother when the wait time was 0.1 |
| 16:52.17 | JManV|Work | but there were lag issues, that i might have resolved by now |
| 16:52.29 | JManV|Work | because movement + old encounter check was very expensive |
| 16:52.38 | JManV|Work | new encounter check is very cheap now, tho |
| 16:52.45 | JademusSreg | Oh yeah, I will definitely be writing a WASD move script in the near future. |
| 16:53.28 | JManV|Work | well, i'd be interested in what you come up with |
| 16:54.20 | AgentPaper | dangit, why doesn't my slow effect slow units? |
| 16:54.47 | JademusSreg | What slow effect? |
| 16:54.50 | JManV|Work | but i do know for certain that "lagless" WASD doesn't exist |
| 16:55.07 | AgentPaper | It's a buff, with modification "Movement Speed Multiplier" set to .9 |
| 16:55.27 | AgentPaper | it's being applied, but it's not affecting the unit's speed |
| 16:55.37 | JademusSreg | Lagless anything is just impossible, given the latency on battlenet and the sluggishness of the engine handling key detection. |
| 16:55.57 | JademusSreg | Have you tried .1? |
| 16:56.24 | AgentPaper | I'll try that now |
| 16:56.41 | Demonette | hi guys =) |
| 16:56.45 | JademusSreg | Hihi! |
| 16:57.04 | Demonette | No problem AgentPaper =) |
| 16:58.07 | Demonette | mmhh? lagless WASD should really be possible... |
| 16:58.28 | JManV|Work | it's really not |
| 16:58.30 | Demonette | you mean WASD without lag is impossible |
| 16:59.04 | Demonette | lagless say to me that it lags fewer then the other versions... |
| 16:59.05 | JManV|Work | there's a delay between pressing the key and the unit responding. always |
| 16:59.05 | JademusSreg | I think he means lagless in the sense that I am faithless. =) |
| 16:59.06 | Demonette | thats all |
| 16:59.14 | JManV|Work | and it's pretty noticeable |
| 16:59.14 | AgentPaper | nope still not affecting speed |
| 16:59.25 | Demonette | Mmmhh? |
| 16:59.31 | Demonette | what the problem agentpaper ? |
| 16:59.40 | AgentPaper | my speed reduction buff isn't working |
| 16:59.48 | JademusSreg | Weird. Notice any differences between your buff and the Marauder slow buff? |
| 17:00.01 | AgentPaper | wait..now it's NOT applyinh |
| 17:00.06 | Demonette | XD |
| 17:00.06 | AgentPaper | applying* |
| 17:00.25 | AgentPaper | oh, that's just because I need to make it round up not down |
| 17:00.31 | AgentPaper | it's applying on smaller units |
| 17:01.45 | Demonette | you could make the whole game slow motion... so it doesn't counts anymore if there is "small lag" between pressing the key and unit movement =D |
| 17:01.55 | Abstruse | lol |
| 17:02.11 | Abstruse | or you could just make the units and attacks all really fucking slow |
| 17:02.12 | Demonette | so the behaviour works now agent? |
| 17:02.25 | JManV|Work | yeah,i'm not gonna do that |
| 17:02.26 | Demonette | you could just deinstall sc2 =D |
| 17:02.29 | JManV|Work | i already set the game speed to normal |
| 17:02.39 | JManV|Work | which actually seemed to help a tiny amount |
| 17:02.49 | JManV|Work | the triggers in the background don't need to run as fast |
| 17:03.07 | Demonette | Not sure... i think my WASD works so far... |
| 17:03.19 | Demonette | haven't looked at any other solutions so far... |
| 17:03.36 | Demonette | but i think the one using the command card works pretty fast |
| 17:04.34 | JManV|Work | well, i'll try a few things before i give up on WASD altogether |
| 17:04.42 | Demonette | maybe you could make it start moving with data (what works faster) and keep it running with triggers? XD |
| 17:04.54 | Demonette | good luck then =) |
| 17:05.12 | JManV|Work | in the end, i probably will end up giving up on WASD tho |
| 17:05.29 | JManV|Work | as well as it fits my game theme, it's not a good control scheme for SC2 |
| 17:06.04 | Demonette | true |
| 17:06.36 | Demonette | i like the mouse movement order of the lightbike map |
| 17:06.51 | Demonette | i think that movement was pretty much cooler then wasd |
| 17:06.53 | Abstruse | i like setting things on fire |
| 17:06.59 | Abstruse | i think it's pretty |
| 17:07.06 | Abstruse | oh so many colors |
| 17:07.29 | Demonette | why not burn youself so that you can enjoy those colors in HD? |
| 17:07.40 | Abstruse | i burn others, not myself |
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| 17:08.22 | Demonette | you said things... things includes yourself! |
| 17:08.45 | Abstruse | it's too cold outside to end up on the street right now |
| 17:08.52 | JManV|Work | i originally wanted to go mouse, but someone recommended WASD and it seemed like a good fit at the time |
| 17:09.30 | JademusSreg | =) |
| 17:09.43 | Demonette | Diablo 2 has a nice use of the mouse =P |
| 17:09.56 | Demonette | it's even more dynamic then wasd |
| 17:10.02 | Demonette | wasd are only 8 directions... |
| 17:10.11 | Abstruse | so is d2 |
| 17:10.18 | JManV|Work | my WASD is only 4 direction :P |
| 17:10.27 | Demonette | wasd can have up to 8 |
| 17:10.32 | JManV|Work | cuz its a gameboy throw-back |
| 17:10.38 | Demonette | if you combine the use of 2 key as the same time |
| 17:10.45 | JManV|Work | i know it can |
| 17:10.47 | JManV|Work | i chose not to |
| 17:10.52 | Demonette | =P |
| 17:11.03 | JManV|Work | i'm considering 8 tho |
| 17:11.05 | Demonette | oh a gameboy remake? |
| 17:11.12 | JManV|Work | i'm make pokemon |
| 17:11.16 | Demonette | oh... |
| 17:11.16 | JManV|Work | making |
| 17:11.28 | Demonette | think i forgot about you project again... |
| 17:11.37 | Abstruse | if you wanna get dramatically and overly intricate you can just make a unit then an effect for him moving each direction.... then each time you press a direction it will have less data to loop |
| 17:11.47 | Demonette | Probomon or so... |
| 17:11.57 | Demonette | well why do you care about lag then? |
| 17:12.09 | JManV|Work | trust me. it matters |
| 17:12.20 | JManV|Work | you'd think it wouldn't in a slow-paced game. i does |
| 17:12.22 | JManV|Work | a lot |
| 17:12.22 | Demonette | use commandcard... |
| 17:12.31 | Demonette | use data.. |
| 17:12.31 | JManV|Work | UI disabled |
| 17:12.33 | Demonette | thats fast enough |
| 17:12.43 | JManV|Work | i used data for moving in the past. it was slow |
| 17:12.47 | Demonette | UI disabled doesn't means it doesn't work anymore |
| 17:12.53 | JManV|Work | i know |
| 17:12.56 | JManV|Work | but it used to |
| 17:13.08 | Demonette | =S |
| 17:13.18 | JManV|Work | my data-based movement lagged more than triggers |
| 17:13.19 | Demonette | punish blizzard then? |
| 17:13.27 | Demonette | settle over to another game? |
| 17:13.34 | JManV|Work | no way! |
| 17:13.37 | JManV|Work | pokemon is happening! |
| 17:13.41 | Demonette | make a complete remake as a standalone? XD |
| 17:13.47 | JManV|Work | really, i think the mouse movement is fine |
| 17:13.50 | Demonette | no Sc2 needed? |
| 17:13.51 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 17:13.56 | Demonette | yeah or that |
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| 17:13.59 | burne- | hello |
| 17:14.06 | JManV|Work | it's a little less "retro" |
| 17:14.07 | Abstruse | FUCK YOU |
| 17:14.08 | Abstruse | i mean |
| 17:14.09 | Abstruse | welcome |
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| 17:14.18 | JManV|Work | but if that the biggest compromise i have to make, it's pretty small |
| 17:14.33 | Demonette | Sometimes i think Abstruse is 100% troll XD |
| 17:14.47 | JManV|Work | still, i'd like to have WASD if its reasonably possible |
| 17:14.48 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 17:14.52 | Abstruse | you haven't even heard my riddles yet |
| 17:15.05 | Demonette | you could use the arrow keys as well XD |
| 17:15.07 | Demonette | just for confusing people =P |
| 17:15.16 | Demonette | OMG i can use both! XD |
| 17:15.36 | Demonette | wonder what happens if you press a and d at the same time... |
| 17:15.38 | JManV|Work | oh, i already do use arrows keys |
| 17:15.44 | Demonette | maybe the char got cut in halfs`? |
| 17:15.56 | JManV|Work | it responds to the most recently pressed button |
| 17:16.14 | Abstruse | you should make pressing both directions explosion |
| 17:16.23 | JManV|Work | it's actually not perfect in that regard |
| 17:16.35 | Demonette | It was like the changeling morphing himself to a unit of player 16 |
| 17:16.39 | JManV|Work | there's alittle that needs to be done with regards to pressing multiple keys |
| 17:17.06 | burne- | holiday comin soon <3 |
| 17:17.27 | burne- | been super busy with stuff, but hopefully i can return to some mapping again :) |
| 17:18.40 | JManV|Work | it's 4 directional, but if you press up and then left, and then lift left but keep up held down, i want it to move you up. currently you stop. |
| 17:19.06 | Demonette | XD |
| 17:19.23 | JademusSreg | Hell, it stops while I'm holding down one key. |
| 17:19.34 | JManV|Work | yeah, i don't know what that's about |
| 17:19.38 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 17:20.00 | Demonette | my one doesn't =P |
| 17:20.01 | JManV|Work | maybe i should hoist someone elses... i just don't really want to put the effort in to make it work right :P |
| 17:20.38 | Demonette | i can turn my char 24/7 to the right |
| 17:20.51 | Demonette | while putting stones on my keyboard |
| 17:21.08 | Demonette | maybe one stone is enough... |
| 17:21.09 | Demonette | mmmhh |
| 17:21.14 | Demonette | yeah could be a solution |
| 17:21.23 | Demonette | i think i'm going losing some ladder matches |
| 17:22.00 | JademusSreg | I don't have time to allocate to getting better at melee. |
| 17:22.15 | JManV|Work | yeah, i know how that goes :P |
| 17:22.16 | JademusSreg | So I accept my terribilitude. |
| 17:22.39 | Skittles_ | hihi |
| 17:22.43 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 17:22.51 | Demonette | Hihihi? |
| 17:23.00 | JademusSreg | Hi^Hi |
| 17:23.09 | Demonette | Hi! |
| 17:23.18 | Skittles_ | HELLO! |
| 17:23.30 | JademusSreg | Now if we could just define the terms H and i, that might make sense. |
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| 17:24.00 | JManV|Work | that's actually the problem i have with WASD. i just don't have time to allocate to it, really. |
| 17:24.17 | Demonette | i is an complex number isn't`? |
| 17:24.17 | JademusSreg | I have time to tinker, melee is different. |
| 17:24.28 | Demonette | i² = -1 or so |
| 17:24.39 | JademusSreg | Good point. |
| 17:24.42 | Demonette | and H mmmhh might be a normal number... |
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| 17:25.25 | JManV|Work | it might take severa days to get a good WASD system working tho |
| 17:25.27 | Demonette | damned... so yeah time spending on making some negativ progress |
| 17:25.31 | JManV|Work | i have so many other things to work on |
| 17:25.43 | JManV|Work | by "good" i mean "semi-good" :P |
| 17:25.51 | JademusSreg | A melee match can basically be lost within the first few minutes, and you don't find out you're a dead man walking (or playing, in this case) until 10 - 30 minutes are expended. |
| 17:25.53 | JManV|Work | that's the other part of the problem |
| 17:25.56 | Demonette | work on the others you can blame Blizzard still later for not improving it =D |
| 17:26.09 | JManV|Work | putting a large investment into a system that will most likely not work as desired |
| 17:26.15 | JademusSreg | Hell, a melee match can be lost in the first few seconds in some cases. |
| 17:26.38 | Demonette | a melee match can also be done in about 10 seconds if your oppenent got disconnected right at the start XD |
| 17:26.43 | JManV|Work | idk about a few seconds |
| 17:26.51 | JManV|Work | well, there's that |
| 17:27.00 | AgentPaper | ok so the slowing buff is definitely being applied now, and it's definitely not slowing the unit |
| 17:27.04 | JManV|Work | but even being afk for the first 10-15 seconds isn't auto-loss |
| 17:27.13 | JManV|Work | 30 seconds maybe |
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| 17:27.28 | Demonette | lol... |
| 17:27.55 | Demonette | i am so damn fucking frightend if i missed the minerals with my first 2 clicks in a game that im about to lose instantly XD |
| 17:28.08 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 17:28.18 | JManV|Work | it's not that dramatic, imo |
| 17:28.27 | Demonette | i would be able to be afk 15 seconds oO |
| 17:28.31 | Demonette | it really is! |
| 17:28.33 | AgentPaper | hm, actually it seems that it's just instantly falling off or something |
| 17:28.38 | AgentPaper | do I need to set a period for it? |
| 17:28.43 | AgentPaper | along with the duration of course |
| 17:28.51 | JManV|Work | i have like a 20 APM :P |
| 17:28.54 | JademusSreg | But since it takes so long to find out you lost from a mistake you may have made 10 minutes ago, it's really impractical for me, doesn't fit my lifestyle. |
| 17:28.57 | Demonette | oO |
| 17:29.01 | Demonette | 20 APM?... |
| 17:29.03 | JManV|Work | 20 |
| 17:29.06 | JManV|Work | yup |
| 17:29.07 | Demonette | wtf... |
| 17:29.09 | JManV|Work | ikr |
| 17:29.13 | JManV|Work | seems really low |
| 17:29.17 | Demonette | hope you clicks are well spend ;) |
| 17:29.27 | JManV|Work | i don't spam, that's for sure |
| 17:29.40 | JManV|Work | i don't know why it's so low, but it's that way consistantly |
| 17:29.47 | JManV|Work | and i'm in plat/diamond |
| 17:29.55 | Demonette | awwhh |
| 17:29.56 | JManV|Work | seems like it should be higher |
| 17:30.05 | Demonette | i would say so... |
| 17:30.15 | Demonette | or you hack =P |
| 17:30.19 | JManV|Work | no |
| 17:30.30 | JManV|Work | i just build a ton of stalkers :P |
| 17:30.53 | Demonette | and after that a tons of kolossi i guess |
| 17:31.01 | JManV|Work | don't really know how to improve my APM, or if that's even what i should focus on |
| 17:31.07 | JManV|Work | ofc |
| 17:31.15 | JManV|Work | and if it keeps going, a few void rays too |
| 17:31.18 | Demonette | switch to zerg =P |
| 17:31.27 | Demonette | you will get automatically more apm |
| 17:31.40 | JManV|Work | my macro is decent... |
| 17:31.48 | Demonette | as you have to surround were every you can and such stuff |
| 17:32.01 | JManV|Work | i always remember to get the same things at about the same time |
| 17:32.24 | JManV|Work | and i spend my cash most of the time |
| 17:32.26 | Demonette | i play more chaotic i guess =) |
| 17:32.58 | JManV|Work | i 3-gate robo into expand pretty much every time |
| 17:33.09 | Demonette | Mmhh... |
| 17:33.14 | JManV|Work | and after expand, i drop colossus den forge and twilight |
| 17:33.17 | Demonette | yea... go work on your pokemons... |
| 17:33.29 | JManV|Work | heh |
| 17:33.32 | Demonette | i will go lose some matches... |
| 17:33.35 | Demonette | =P |
| 17:33.45 | Demonette | wtf? |
| 17:33.46 | Demonette | patch? |
| 17:33.52 | JManV|Work | i won some pretty good ones last night |
| 17:34.13 | JManV|Work | first time i actually played in weeks |
| 17:34.24 | Demonette | something patched... when was there a patch? |
| 17:34.55 | JManV|Work | friday? |
| 17:35.13 | JManV|Work | if you haven't read the patch notes yet, you're gonna jizz your pants |
| 17:35.40 | Demonette | i have read them... |
| 17:35.49 | Demonette | but... wasn't it for PTR? |
| 17:35.55 | JManV|Work | yeah |
| 17:36.00 | Demonette | EU doesn't have access to PTR |
| 17:36.06 | JManV|Work | oh |
| 17:36.06 | Demonette | so why? |
| 17:36.10 | JManV|Work | dunno |
| 17:36.10 | Demonette | what that patch? XD |
| 17:36.16 | Demonette | what's this all about XD |
| 17:36.32 | JManV|Work | hmmm |
| 17:36.37 | JManV|Work | there's a new patch in NA |
| 17:36.54 | JademusSreg | Orly? |
| 17:36.59 | JManV|Work | rly |
| 17:37.15 | Demonette | Oh i know |
| 17:37.18 | JManV|Work | i tried to publish just to check |
| 17:37.23 | Demonette | it's only an update for the patcher XD |
| 17:37.41 | JademusSreg | Oh, bah. |
| 17:37.42 | Demonette | but seems the big patch comes closer... |
| 17:37.43 | JManV|Work | tools update |
| 17:37.44 | JManV|Work | yeah |
| 17:37.51 | JademusSreg | I launched SC2 for nothing? |
| 17:37.55 | JademusSreg | Damn. |
| 17:38.05 | Demonette | XD |
| 17:38.11 | JademusSreg | I was hoping for "Surprise 1.3 patch!" |
| 17:38.11 | JManV|Work | map changes have already occurred, however |
| 17:38.16 | JManV|Work | i noticed that yesterday |
| 17:38.30 | JManV|Work | played 4 rounds in a row on that new 4v4 map |
| 17:40.30 | AgentPaper | man why is this giving me so much trouble... |
| 17:40.42 | AgentPaper | the buff is exactly the same as marauder slow |
| 17:41.18 | AgentPaper | oooh wait |
| 17:41.25 | AgentPaper | I didnt' set the alignment to negative XD |
| 17:42.13 | AgentPaper | see what that does... |
| 17:42.46 | JManV|Work | nothing |
| 17:42.56 | JManV|Work | alignment is a UI thing |
| 17:43.06 | JManV|Work | sets the color of the buff or something |
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| 17:43.20 | JManV|Work | it should say in the tooltip |
| 17:44.11 | JManV|Work | wow. my map has 21 different records. |
| 17:44.23 | AgentPaper | bah, still not working >:( |
| 17:44.34 | JManV|Work | because alignment doesn't do anything |
| 17:44.44 | JManV|Work | it does, but not what you think |
| 17:44.49 | AgentPaper | that's what I thought |
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| 17:45.59 | JManV|Work | so you've got something else going on |
| 17:46.06 | AgentPaper | yah... |
| 17:46.10 | AgentPaper | the buff is there |
| 17:46.13 | AgentPaper | I can see the icon |
| 17:46.21 | JManV|Work | ok, that's good |
| 17:46.25 | AgentPaper | but it doesn't do anything =\ |
| 17:46.45 | JManV|Work | un-roll the data and look for green things |
| 17:46.52 | JManV|Work | maybe you're changing something else you don't realize |
| 17:47.10 | JManV|Work | un-roll = 5th icon of 5 at top |
| 17:47.47 | JManV|Work | you can turn of the 2nd one too to see only green/blue values |
| 17:48.08 | AgentPaper | wait, it just worked on the boss |
| 17:48.13 | AgentPaper | it was kinda stuttery though |
| 17:48.21 | AgentPaper | the heck? |
| 17:48.29 | JManV|Work | what's the duration? |
| 17:48.37 | AgentPaper | .5 |
| 17:48.50 | AgentPaper | I had it set to 5 earlier though and no difference |
| 17:49.04 | JManV|Work | .5 will definitely make it stutter |
| 17:49.23 | JManV|Work | the effect is only gonna last 1/2 a second |
| 17:49.34 | JManV|Work | that's a game time second too |
| 17:49.40 | AgentPaper | yah I'm going to make it 0 and remove it in the trigger instead |
| 17:50.28 | JManV|Work | what? why? |
| 17:50.58 | AgentPaper | to get rid of the stutter |
| 17:51.07 | JManV|Work | or you could make the duration longer |
| 17:51.25 | AgentPaper | oh, you misunderstand |
| 17:51.50 | AgentPaper | er, well explaining why I can't just have a long duration would take a while |
| 17:51.55 | AgentPaper | but there's a reason I can't |
| 17:52.07 | JManV|Work | it won't stack unless you make it stack |
| 17:52.30 | JManV|Work | so you don't have to worry about multiple slowdowns stacking |
| 17:52.42 | AgentPaper | I set the max stack to 100 |
| 17:52.48 | JManV|Work | ...oh |
| 17:52.57 | JManV|Work | ok, then it will stack |
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| 17:55.04 | AgentPaper | arrrgh |
| 17:55.55 | Dekar | arrrrrr |
| 17:56.02 | Dekar | you are a pirate! |
| 17:56.04 | JManV|Work | gh |
| 17:57.07 | JademusSreg | Yar? |
| 17:58.47 | AgentPaper | ugh, this is buggy as shiz |
| 18:00.49 | JManV|Work | so jad, what's the option to get rid of the yellow targets, anywho? |
| 18:01.09 | JademusSreg | Look at the flags on the sheep unit. |
| 18:01.18 | JManV|Work | unit or actor? |
| 18:01.37 | JademusSreg | The sheep critter is a good example of a unit that cannot be cursored. |
| 18:01.41 | JademusSreg | Unit. |
| 18:01.45 | JManV|Work | ah |
| 18:01.49 | JManV|Work | cannot be highlighted |
| 18:04.05 | JManV|Work | so many units... :P |
| 18:04.29 | JManV|Work | i should make sure that's right first :P |
| 18:04.41 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 18:04.47 | DonKalypso | Jade! |
| 18:04.50 | DonKalypso | Whaddup? |
| 18:04.51 | JademusSreg | Don! |
| 18:04.58 | JademusSreg | I'm making a tiberium poc map. |
| 18:05.07 | DonKalypso | A whodiwha? |
| 18:05.17 | JademusSreg | Google tiberium. |
| 18:05.27 | JademusSreg | It's the resource from Command & Conquer. |
| 18:05.31 | Demonette | Lost so hard =(/ |
| 18:05.35 | JManV|Work | hmmm. that's not it |
| 18:05.37 | DonKalypso | I see |
| 18:05.45 | JademusSreg | Mediocre games, but fucking awesome idea. |
| 18:05.53 | Demonette | *sniff* |
| 18:06.07 | JManV|Work | tiberium as in auto-respawning resources? |
| 18:06.18 | JademusSreg | A self-replicating dynamic proton lattice. |
| 18:06.43 | JManV|Work | taking away the footprint too? |
| 18:06.55 | JManV|Work | did tiberium damage units in some games? |
| 18:07.00 | JManV|Work | biologicals or something? |
| 18:07.11 | JademusSreg | Uses captured muons and tauons to knock off chunks of nearby matter, resulting in either fission or fusion, releasing energy in the process and sometimes freeing protons to add to the lattice. |
| 18:07.12 | JManV|Work | or was that something else/ |
| 18:07.20 | JademusSreg | You are correct. |
| 18:07.42 | JademusSreg | It was lethal starting in Tiberian Sun. |
| 18:07.43 | JManV|Work | tiberian sun i think |
| 18:07.46 | JManV|Work | yeah |
| 18:08.17 | JManV|Work | so many nuke attacks in that game |
| 18:08.36 | JManV|Work | i liked the unique walker unit tho |
| 18:08.41 | JademusSreg | My poc map is a red zone. =) Thought the terrain would be fun to make. |
| 18:08.42 | JManV|Work | and titans i think they were |
| 18:08.45 | JademusSreg | Amnd it is. |
| 18:11.05 | AgentPaper | so I just used one of my own units to test it out |
| 18:11.21 | AgentPaper | and it works on my own units! |
| 18:11.26 | AgentPaper | but, it still does nothing to other units |
| 18:12.43 | JademusSreg | I imagine there are 4 flags that may be overlooked. |
| 18:12.56 | JademusSreg | Player, Allied, Neutral, Enemy |
| 18:12.59 | JademusSreg | See those anywhere? |
| 18:13.39 | AgentPaper | the only flag I see is for hidden or not |
| 18:16.03 | JManV|Work | what about the effect that applies the behavior? |
| 18:17.16 | AgentPaper | it's added via trigger |
| 18:17.22 | AgentPaper | and the unti is getting the effect |
| 18:17.28 | AgentPaper | I can see the buff on it |
| 18:17.31 | AgentPaper | but not it's effects |
| 18:24.19 | AgentPaper | ...aand it DID work against the boss...wtf? |
| 18:27.06 | Skizot | i STILL hang out in secretrpg.. that's sad |
| 18:27.37 | HP-X|Arthas | slaps Skizot with a squid |
| 18:28.37 | HP-X|Arthas | you wanna see something awesome? |
| 18:28.59 | Skizot | i EMIT awesome. |
| 18:29.04 | HP-X|Arthas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2_m4LYAcdI |
| 18:29.14 | HP-X|Arthas | I know |
| 18:29.22 | HP-X|Arthas | Now, I hope you have a mustache like that |
| 18:29.25 | HP-X|Arthas | Cuz that's awesome |
| 18:29.36 | HP-X|Arthas | I'd kill for a mustasche like that :p |
| 18:29.41 | Skizot | i did yes |
| 18:29.46 | Skizot | but shaved it off. |
| 18:29.55 | HP-X|Arthas | but |
| 18:29.57 | HP-X|Arthas | WHY |
| 18:30.03 | Skizot | had too. |
| 18:30.08 | HP-X|Arthas | oh right, the 80s ended |
| 18:30.11 | Skizot | giving the ladies rug burn in the wrong places. |
| 18:30.15 | HP-X|Arthas | :D |
| 18:31.16 | HP-X|Arthas | so, whats happening here nowadays |
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| 18:32.34 | JademusSreg | People doing stuff. |
| 18:33.07 | AgentPaper | hippies. meeeeeeehhh |
| 18:33.16 | HP-X|Arthas | what kind of stuff :p |
| 18:33.35 | JademusSreg | I make proof of concept maps when I have ideas, see if they are worth exploring. |
| 18:34.16 | JademusSreg | I recently made a primitive super map with procedurally generated cells using the x y values as seeds. |
| 18:35.10 | JademusSreg | A more sophisiticated implementation would be needed for anything more than a hack-n-slash like Gauntlet. |
| 18:35.20 | AgentPaper | super map? |
| 18:35.24 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/SuperMapPOC.SC2Map. |
| 18:35.27 | JademusSreg | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/SuperMapPOC.SC2Map |
| 18:35.29 | JademusSreg | No period. |
| 18:35.36 | HP-X|Arthas | aight |
| 18:35.39 | JademusSreg | Anyway, navigate Karass to the edge of the map. |
| 18:37.35 | JademusSreg | The idea has potential, like if coupled with associated 2D arrays or data tables, some sort of order could be imposed on the map, like setting static spawns for villages or NPCs or quest objectives and shit. |
| 18:39.11 | JademusSreg | Right now, all it allows for is near infinite exploration, the super map consisting of approximately ((((2^32)-1)/2)^2) maps. |
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| 18:40.18 | JademusSreg | Hi grim. |
| 18:40.51 | Demonette | awwhh i won =3 |
| 18:40.52 | grim001 | hi. |
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| 18:43.04 | JManV|Work | why /2? |
| 18:44.16 | grim001 | making any systems that could benefit from libraries yet jademus? |
| 18:44.24 | JademusSreg | Because I start with seed x1y1 and increment by 2, since starting a x0y0 and incrementing by 1 had undesirable effects. |
| 18:44.56 | JManV|Work | ah |
| 18:45.42 | JademusSreg | grim, I have some ideas that I'd like to explore that need some sort of oop, like genetic algorithms for individual unit AI. |
| 18:46.15 | JademusSreg | I'll probably need a few of your libraries for that one. |
| 18:46.40 | grim001 | so far I've got systems for integer allocation, custom value index allocation, dealing with time, priority queue, function pointers, and timed events |
| 18:46.54 | grim001 | working on AutoIndex next... let me know if you need any of this stuff |
| 18:47.10 | JademusSreg | I'll need at least 3 of those for my genetic algorithm work. |
| 18:47.25 | JademusSreg | Which will wait until I'm done with my current little project. |
| 18:47.45 | JManV|Work | hmmm. why is Select List Item not working? |
| 18:48.35 | JManV|Work | oh. because i'm stupid and set the wrong variable |
| 18:48.36 | JademusSreg | grim, do you have anywhere you can post those scripts so that I might grab them at my convenience? |
| 18:50.02 | grim001 | I might post them on sc2c sometime but it seems like a dead board |
| 18:50.33 | JademusSreg | It is. |
| 18:50.45 | JademusSreg | Doesn't even have a pastebin. |
| 18:51.16 | JademusSreg | Mapster is the modding hub for this game, without a doubt. Which explains why we're all here. |
| 18:51.19 | JademusSreg | =) |
| 18:51.51 | JManV|Work | oh. i was here for the free cake. there's still free cake, right? |
| 18:52.29 | grim001 | I'm not sure anyone on SC2mapster would care about these scripts |
| 18:52.31 | grim001 | and they'd be buried under a flood of other posts anyhow |
| 18:52.33 | JademusSreg | I think someone may have been dishonest to you with regards to the availability of baked confections. |
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| 18:52.45 | Skizot | there's no cake? |
| 18:52.52 | JManV|Work | the assets - libraries forum moves very slowly |
| 18:52.54 | Skizot | grabs his torch and ptichfork. |
| 18:52.57 | JManV|Work | not a lot of posts/day |
| 18:53.06 | JManV|Work | it won't get burried quickly at all |
| 18:53.33 | JademusSreg | Still, people who need them will be able to find them, if they bother to look. |
| 18:53.46 | JManV|Work | i posted something on 2/17 and it's like the 4th or 5th thing down |
| 18:54.04 | JManV|Work | 4th |
| 18:54.53 | JManV|Work | there's only 4 pages total :P |
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| 19:07.17 | grim001 | after looking through the libraries forum, I don't think they'd appreciate these kinds of scripts for some reason |
| 19:08.49 | AgentPaper | just doo eeet |
| 19:09.28 | JademusSreg | I concur. |
| 19:10.03 | JademusSreg | Even if no one appreciates it now, it will at least be available to those few who might. |
| 19:10.15 | JademusSreg | Who would otherwise know nothing of its existence. |
| 19:10.46 | JManV|Work | what is the script? |
| 19:10.58 | grim001 | <grim001>so far I've got systems for integer allocation, custom value index allocation, dealing with time, priority queue, function pointers, and timed events |
| 19:11.28 | JManV|Work | priority queue? |
| 19:11.35 | JManV|Work | like tracking turns in a turn-based game? |
| 19:11.45 | grim001 | like anything that requires a priority queue |
| 19:11.53 | grim001 | wikipedia will tell you what that is |
| 19:13.34 | JManV|Work | i need regular queues |
| 19:14.13 | grim001 | this particular queue sorts intgers by corresponding fixed values |
| 19:14.41 | grim001 | integers |
| 19:15.04 | JManV|Work | well, i need a turn queue that doesn't need wrap-around (so that's pretty basic) |
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| 19:15.20 | JManV|Work | but i also need a wrap-around FIFO queue where items can be moved from the middle to the end |
| 19:15.31 | grim001 | make one? |
| 19:15.42 | JManV|Work | well yeah |
| 19:15.51 | JManV|Work | actually, at this point i haven't bothered |
| 19:16.02 | JManV|Work | i wasn'tsaying you should make me one tho |
| 19:19.36 | JManV|Work | just those are the things i've run into so far |
| 19:19.57 | JManV|Work | function pointers sound sexy tho |
| 19:20.27 | grim001 | you have to maintain the table yourself and use the appropriate function to invoke them |
| 19:20.34 | grim001 | but it's better than not having them |
| 19:20.49 | JManV|Work | that would actually solve a problem i have |
| 19:21.01 | JManV|Work | i was thinking of using trigger variables, but i can't pass data to them |
| 19:21.09 | JManV|Work | at least not thread-safe data |
| 19:21.16 | JademusSreg | Watching an SCV carry around tiberium amuses me. |
| 19:21.24 | JManV|Work | heh |
| 19:21.31 | grim001 | you just need to use global variables if you want to pass data to a trigger that you're executing |
| 19:22.00 | grim001 | which is a bigger pain than using pretend function pointers |
| 19:22.09 | JManV|Work | its not thread-safe either |
| 19:22.16 | JManV|Work | game states change |
| 19:22.30 | grim001 | there is no problem with using globals to pass data to executed triggers |
| 19:22.35 | JManV|Work | it could make two request simulataneously |
| 19:22.39 | grim001 | no it can't |
| 19:22.51 | grim001 | sc2 runs one thread at a time, just like wc3 |
| 19:23.04 | JManV|Work | hmm |
| 19:23.31 | JManV|Work | so if i trigger runs, it can safely request it's data without getting another trigger's data? |
| 19:24.05 | grim001 | if you set globals then immediately execute a trigger and read from those globals in the executed code |
| 19:24.11 | grim001 | then there is no chance of any issue |
| 19:24.17 | JManV|Work | good to know |
| 19:25.15 | JManV|Work | i want to use triggers to construct dynamic buildings, but the triggers need to know where |
| 19:26.29 | JManV|Work | using triggers requires far less data storage than trying to store all the units and locations in an array. it's also a great deal more flexible |
| 19:26.46 | JManV|Work | it's not limited by array bounds |
| 19:28.37 | JManV|Work | still. function pointers sounds a little more robust |
| 19:28.56 | JManV|Work | prolly just cuz i'm used to thinking thread-safe |
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| 19:32.36 | Demonette | Is skizot still here? |
| 19:32.37 | Demonette | oO |
| 19:32.53 | Icebane | heya guys! |
| 19:32.53 | Skizot | maybe? |
| 19:33.03 | JManV|Work | no. skizot died. |
| 19:33.25 | Demonette | Would be cool =P |
| 19:33.37 | Demonette | if i talk about a model then you will be busy? ^^ |
| 19:33.55 | Demonette | and not availible and absence and similar? |
| 19:33.58 | JManV|Work | why would it be cool if skiz died? |
| 19:34.13 | JManV|Work | you monster! :P |
| 19:34.13 | Demonette | -.- |
| 19:34.21 | Demonette | that was to "maybe" |
| 19:34.25 | Demonette | not to you... |
| 19:34.44 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 19:34.45 | JManV|Work | skiz: dude wants you dead. that's not cool man. |
| 19:34.45 | Skizot | i work/have kids. |
| 19:34.52 | JManV|Work | :) |
| 19:34.53 | Skizot | i can't ALWAYS be around :( |
| 19:35.02 | Demonette | i don't say you have to =/ |
| 19:35.04 | JManV|Work | work is for people |
| 19:35.43 | Demonette | but would be happy if you got the teamlayer on the char flower... |
| 19:36.01 | JManV|Work | you need team flowers? :P |
| 19:36.31 | Demonette | they... and an attachment point over the flowers teeth |
| 19:36.33 | Demonette | =P |
| 19:36.54 | Demonette | straight above it's mouth |
| 19:37.10 | JManV|Work | i was thinking of turning spire into a unit, so i guess i can't talk :P |
| 19:38.20 | JManV|Work | onl;y problem is no animations |
| 19:38.47 | Skizot | i'm actually NOT doing anything atm... i guess i can take a look. |
| 19:40.06 | Shawn|Rawr | XML is the shit |
| 19:40.27 | Shawn|Rawr | Just copy-pasted all data from one map into another and it worked perfectly |
| 19:40.45 | JManV|Work | i humbly disagree :P |
| 19:40.52 | JManV|Work | XML is pretty awesome, actually |
| 19:41.00 | JManV|Work | but generating it can be a bitch |
| 19:41.15 | Shawn|Rawr | Well.. I have to rename all the stuff because it all came up as ID (Unnamed) |
| 19:41.25 | Shawn|Rawr | But that is small compared to remaking all that data |
| 19:41.34 | JManV|Work | did you lose your editor prefixes? |
| 19:41.42 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes |
| 19:41.49 | Shawn|Rawr | Was there something i messed up on? |
| 19:41.54 | JManV|Work | no |
| 19:41.59 | JManV|Work | that tends to happen |
| 19:42.15 | JManV|Work | i was wondering if it happened with an XML transfer as well |
| 19:42.16 | Shawn|Rawr | Well as i said.. its nothing compared to remaking all that stuff |
| 19:42.18 | JManV|Work | apparently it does |
| 19:42.24 | Skizot | so what do you want team colored? |
| 19:42.31 | Skizot | Demonette? |
| 19:42.59 | Skizot | i was thinking the spikes on the teeth. |
| 19:43.48 | Skizot | hello? |
| 19:45.03 | Skizot | I WILL DRAW TEAM COLORED PENISES ON THE LEAVES IF YOU DON'T ANSWER |
| 19:45.22 | JManV|Work | now i want to see that :P |
| 19:45.34 | Shawn|Rawr | +1 |
| 19:46.10 | Shawn|Rawr | Where, if not in the xml, do you think the prefixes and names are/ |
| 19:46.12 | Shawn|Rawr | ? |
| 19:46.31 | Demonette | Skizot ... i just want... a teamcolor layer |
| 19:46.34 | Demonette | that all... |
| 19:46.56 | Demonette | i'm able to modify the diffuse myself |
| 19:47.13 | Skizot | okay so TC PEE PEE it is. |
| 19:47.19 | JManV|Work | you don't want team colored flower penises? |
| 19:47.24 | Demonette | tc? |
| 19:47.31 | Shawn|Rawr | team colored |
| 19:47.31 | JademusSreg | What ShawnRawr? |
| 19:47.38 | Demonette | oh |
| 19:47.51 | Shawn|Rawr | I want to know where in the map the names and prefixes are stored |
| 19:47.52 | JManV|Work | he's moving data via XML, but lost the names/editor prefixes |
| 19:48.55 | JademusSreg | Names and Prefixes, as in the Editor related fields? |
| 19:49.00 | Demonette | he is mad at me =/ |
| 19:49.17 | JademusSreg | Those are in Text. |
| 19:49.42 | JademusSreg | If you open the Text module, you'll see them, |
| 19:50.01 | Shawn|Rawr | And will I be able to transfer them? |
| 19:50.01 | JManV|Work | ah |
| 19:50.13 | JademusSreg | The editor saves the paths that correspond to the object ids. |
| 19:50.30 | JManV|Work | i don't think he's mad. just focused on flower peni |
| 19:50.35 | JManV|Work | penii |
| 19:50.42 | JademusSreg | Change the ids in Text module, if you can. |
| 19:51.02 | Shawn|Rawr | All of the ID's are correct though. |
| 19:51.05 | JademusSreg | Or in the localization game strings file. |
| 19:54.47 | Skizot | teamcolored Penis COMPLETE |
| 19:55.22 | Skizot | what do you want this attachment named? |
| 19:55.25 | Skizot | is head okay? |
| 19:56.23 | JManV|Work | who doesn't like head? :P |
| 19:57.05 | JManV|Work | all this talk of penises and head is making me hungry :P |
| 19:57.12 | Skizot | cockmonger |
| 19:57.18 | Icebane | I tab into the IRC, and first thing I see is "teamcolored Penis COMPLETE" |
| 19:58.23 | JManV|Work | and? |
| 19:58.26 | JManV|Work | what's the problem? |
| 19:58.49 | JManV|Work | what do /you/ say when you finish a teamcolored penis? |
| 20:00.05 | Icebane | why have a teamcolored penis? |
| 20:00.15 | Icebane | when you can have a teamcolored vagina? |
| 20:00.40 | Demonette | Mmmhh |
| 20:01.01 | Demonette | why are you so mad at me skizot? how about overhead ? or something |
| 20:01.28 | JManV|Work | penises are funnier than vaginas? |
| 20:01.34 | Shawn|Rawr | ^ |
| 20:01.49 | JManV|Work | i mean, they're both weird-looking... |
| 20:02.12 | Demonette | Well or you just name that hole big bad bagina... |
| 20:02.59 | Icebane | Bagina |
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| 20:06.27 | Skizot | i used head |
| 20:06.31 | Skizot | easy to attach to head |
| 20:06.34 | Skizot | unlike my wife |
| 20:06.41 | Skizot | badumpish |
| 20:07.01 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 20:07.02 | JManV|Work | heh |
| 20:07.25 | JManV|Work | but they're always willing to receive, right? |
| 20:08.11 | Demonette | ^^ |
| 20:11.45 | *** join/#sc2mapster MrOp (MrOp@76.76.73.7) |
| 20:11.55 | MrOp | hello |
| 20:12.09 | JManV|Work | yo op |
| 20:12.11 | MrOp | ollo |
| 20:12.35 | JManV|Work | where you the one doing the gauntlet map? |
| 20:12.42 | MrOp | yea |
| 20:12.49 | MrOp | why XD |
| 20:13.04 | JManV|Work | did you ever get teh damage over time workign? |
| 20:13.29 | MrOp | nope not really but i finshed player 3 |
| 20:13.44 | MrOp | i have a lot of work i can do b4 i need to do that one |
| 20:14.17 | MrOp | but i need help with a few other things so maybe we can finsh those up and you can help me with the new deallybobber |
| 20:14.39 | MrOp | are you able to help with a test |
| 20:15.19 | Skizot | how do you remove building shadows? |
| 20:15.26 | Demonette | Uhm... |
| 20:15.50 | Demonette | most be on the model or the acteur i guess |
| 20:15.51 | MrOp | um i remember seeing that there was a field to do that in data |
| 20:15.54 | JManV|Work | i am not able to test currently |
| 20:15.59 | JManV|Work | <- Work |
| 20:16.05 | MrOp | :/ |
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| 20:16.18 | JManV|Work | there are splat actors that are used for some shadows |
| 20:16.20 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 20:16.30 | Bounty | Hello everyone |
| 20:16.40 | JManV|Work | if you find the splat for the building, you could try making it invis, or just clearing the splat actor field |
| 20:16.43 | MrOp | hi |
| 20:16.47 | Bounty | So Jademus i kinda fixed that issue from last night lol |
| 20:16.49 | JademusSreg | Saw you news post, Bounty. Looking good. |
| 20:17.05 | Bounty | thx :) the Zeratul fight should be 100% complete by 2night |
| 20:17.13 | Bounty | then ill need 3 testers to fight him =P |
| 20:17.15 | MrOp | :) gratz |
| 20:17.21 | JademusSreg | Cool. Did you track down the specific problem field? |
| 20:17.25 | Bounty | no |
| 20:17.28 | Bounty | i went the ghetto route |
| 20:17.33 | Bounty | i added a periodic trigger lol |
| 20:17.38 | Bounty | that orders him to attack the closest unit to him |
| 20:17.45 | Bounty | shazam >< |
| 20:17.47 | JademusSreg | I might be available, depending on the time and region. |
| 20:17.57 | Bounty | I'm US |
| 20:18.03 | JademusSreg | Yeah, NA here too. |
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| 20:18.06 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 20:18.08 | Bounty | Hopefully i can get Sixen to play |
| 20:18.13 | JademusSreg | Hopefully! |
| 20:18.14 | Bounty | speak of the devil |
| 20:18.15 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:18.22 | JademusSreg | You did it on purpose, I swear. |
| 20:18.32 | JademusSreg | Anyway, what time did you have in mind? |
| 20:18.39 | Bounty | no idea |
| 20:18.44 | Bounty | i have no idea what time this will be done |
| 20:18.45 | JademusSreg | I'll be busy until around 10:30 EST. |
| 20:18.46 | Skizot | fuck |
| 20:18.51 | Skizot | they won't go away |
| 20:18.56 | Bounty | For all i know |
| 20:18.57 | Skizot | oh well. |
| 20:19.03 | Skizot | demonette will have to fix it. |
| 20:19.03 | Bounty | i could run into another huge problem like last night |
| 20:19.06 | Bounty | >< |
| 20:19.17 | JademusSreg | Well, I'll be here. |
| 20:19.18 | Demonette | okay... |
| 20:19.30 | Bounty | I think people are really going to like this boss fight though |
| 20:19.41 | Bounty | its a mix of capture the flag and a boss fight lol |
| 20:19.54 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 20:20.17 | JademusSreg | Every fight needs a gimmick; boss fights should be like violent action puzzles. |
| 20:20.19 | MrOp | can i get 3 people to help test please... |
| 20:20.27 | MrOp | not right now but pretty soon |
| 20:20.29 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/ower.png |
| 20:20.32 | Skizot | wait for it... |
| 20:20.36 | Bounty | and since i made it so players can revive fallen players pretty easily... i gave Zeratul some insanely powerful abilities lol |
| 20:20.43 | Bounty | One shotting will not be uncommon |
| 20:20.54 | Shawn|Rawr | I see no penises skizz |
| 20:21.08 | Sixen | I don't play, Bounty. I AM FO SRS. |
| 20:21.08 | JademusSreg | Mrop, I'm busy. Also, I don't know which region you're in. |
| 20:21.15 | JManV|Work | i was gonna say the same thing |
| 20:21.22 | Demonette | aawwwhhh that awesome =D |
| 20:21.24 | Bounty | lol what sixen? |
| 20:21.24 | JManV|Work | no penis = me very disappointed |
| 20:21.29 | Sixen | Bad humor. |
| 20:21.32 | Sixen | I just finished an exam. |
| 20:21.33 | Sixen | ;P |
| 20:21.34 | Bounty | >< |
| 20:21.57 | Skittles_ | fo srs? |
| 20:22.04 | Skittles_ | serious? |
| 20:22.19 | Skizot | there IS a penis in the alpha map though! |
| 20:22.24 | JademusSreg | That splat shadow, it's horrifying. wtf |
| 20:22.38 | Skizot | it can't make it go away |
| 20:22.40 | Bounty | I think this is my first noob friendly map |
| 20:22.45 | Skizot | stupid supply deopt. |
| 20:22.58 | Bounty | In that it has a How to Play Open/Closable menu |
| 20:23.00 | Demonette | ah i see ^^ |
| 20:23.05 | Bounty | people will still prolly rage quit though |
| 20:23.05 | Demonette | based on the supply =D |
| 20:23.13 | Skittles_ | lol, it looks like the bush wet it self |
| 20:23.36 | Demonette | so it use the footprint of the supply depot at the moment... |
| 20:23.55 | JademusSreg | If done well, the only rage quiters will be pansies anyway. |
| 20:24.01 | Skizot | yeah |
| 20:24.08 | Skizot | i just used it to change the model. |
| 20:24.11 | Skizot | to check it ingame. |
| 20:25.14 | Demonette | nice nice |
| 20:25.28 | Skittles_ | the crysis 2 demo is kick ass =D |
| 20:26.27 | JademusSreg | I accidentally the whole coffee and now I get dizzy when I bend over. Is this safe? |
| 20:27.32 | Demonette | won't those weird shadow disappier when using an other footprint.. or maybe the one of the autoturret |
| 20:29.33 | MrOp | better then sniffing glue to wake upjade |
| 20:33.20 | JManV|Work | sounds safe to me |
| 20:33.47 | JManV|Work | site is down? |
| 20:34.48 | JManV|Work | 502 bad gateway |
| 20:35.25 | Shawn|Rawr | mapster is down! |
| 20:35.27 | Shawn|Rawr | SIXEN!! |
| 20:35.44 | JademusSreg | FFFFFFOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 20:36.49 | grim001 | woo I found all my old Andromeda scripts, including the nearly complete version of AutoIndex I created in it, which contained some arcane secrets |
| 20:36.55 | grim001 | this will save me a lot of time |
| 20:37.34 | Sixen | sups |
| 20:37.36 | Sixen | it is? |
| 20:37.39 | JManV|Work | it is |
| 20:37.46 | Sixen | it was just up 10 seconds ago.. |
| 20:37.53 | Sixen | oh lewd |
| 20:37.59 | JManV|Work | not for everyone else |
| 20:38.49 | Skizot | stupid 3d studio |
| 20:40.16 | JademusSreg | Cool, grim. I'm looking forward to making Marble Madness Craft. |
| 20:40.33 | Sixen | They're pushing a site update |
| 20:40.33 | JademusSreg | (Joking about suffixing Craft.) |
| 20:40.36 | Sixen | should be back up soon(tm) |
| 20:41.14 | grim001 | World of Marble Madness Craft In Space |
| 20:41.37 | JManV|Work | heh |
| 20:41.49 | JManV|Work | that could be my maps name :P |
| 20:41.56 | JManV|Work | World of Poke Craft in Space |
| 20:44.22 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 20:45.05 | JademusSreg | If I prefix "World of" to the map, I might get Ryaned by Blizzard. =( |
| 20:45.14 | JManV|Work | Ryaned |
| 20:45.20 | JManV|Work | ryan is a verb now :P |
| 20:45.35 | JademusSreg | It is in the Blizz community. =) |
| 20:45.50 | JManV|Work | that's awesome |
| 20:45.57 | JManV|Work | i think even he'd appreciate that :P |
| 20:47.37 | JManV|Work | so SQL Server Integration Services is pretty awesome... |
| 20:48.25 | Skizot | they're done demonette |
| 20:49.13 | nicoli_s | sql server integration services? |
| 20:49.28 | JManV|Work | yeah. using it for work stuff |
| 20:49.33 | JManV|Work | it's pretty f-in cool |
| 20:49.41 | nicoli_s | ahh ok was thinking you meant for sc2 stuff, was confused :P |
| 20:49.45 | Sixen | lolol, Ryaned. |
| 20:50.11 | JManV|Work | nah, i'm actually doing work at work todya |
| 20:51.13 | nicoli_s | sql server is just great overall |
| 20:51.16 | nicoli_s | so much better than mysql |
| 20:51.43 | JManV|Work | oh yeah. so many more features |
| 20:51.51 | JManV|Work | i'm a slave to reporting services |
| 20:52.00 | nicoli_s | and the mgmt studio is just amazing |
| 20:52.22 | JManV|Work | oh yeah |
| 20:52.22 | JManV|Work | so much better than something like phpmyadmin :P |
| 20:52.25 | Skizot | it was just showing the model |
| 20:53.10 | JManV|Work | not that phpmyadmin isn't awesome for what it is |
| 20:53.28 | Skizot | poop is awesome for what it is. |
| 20:53.34 | Skizot | doesn't mean it's not poop. |
| 20:53.46 | JManV|Work | hmm |
| 20:53.51 | JManV|Work | that's deep, skiz :P |
| 20:54.05 | Skizot | only after taco night. |
| 20:54.08 | JManV|Work | but i'm not sure poop is awesome even for being poop :P |
| 20:54.39 | Skizot | it's removed waste so that bodies don't putrificate fromt he inside. |
| 20:55.08 | JManV|Work | that could be fun |
| 20:55.22 | JManV|Work | maybe i don't want my body to decide for me... |
| 20:55.34 | Skizot | it happened to my mom. |
| 20:55.39 | Skizot | yay chron's disease |
| 20:55.46 | JManV|Work | oh |
| 20:55.56 | JManV|Work | well that takes all the fun out of joking about it |
| 20:55.58 | Skizot | she now has a hole in her stomach that poop comes out of. |
| 20:56.20 | Skizot | i learned ALOT about poop in that time. |
| 20:56.56 | Skizot | you like my sql to poop segue though right? |
| 20:57.18 | JManV|Work | well, it's not a hard seque to make :P |
| 20:57.41 | Skizot | but it was a good one! |
| 20:58.06 | Skizot | just check the toilet! |
| 20:59.19 | Skizot | POOP JOKES! HAHA! |
| 21:01.21 | JademusSreg | Nothing wrong with sophomoric humor. =) |
| 21:01.43 | JManV|Work | ftw! |
| 21:01.51 | Skizot | Demonette |
| 21:01.55 | Skizot | those work okay? |
| 21:07.24 | DonKalypso | I don't know about y'all |
| 21:07.32 | DonKalypso | But water is a disgusting drink |
| 21:07.58 | DonKalypso | Who in their right mind would want to drink something so bland and tasteless that people actually market it for that very quality. |
| 21:08.18 | JManV|Work | water = life |
| 21:08.47 | JManV|Work | just because society has overdosed us all on sugar doesn't make it what's best for our bodies |
| 21:08.53 | DonKalypso | I get along just fine with daily infusions of soda and caffeine |
| 21:09.21 | JManV|Work | actually, sugar tastes so good for a biological reason |
| 21:09.35 | DonKalypso | Because we need sugars to create energy? |
| 21:09.49 | JManV|Work | not too long ago, it was hard for ppl to get their calorie needs met |
| 21:09.57 | DonKalypso | That honestly is the only thing in biology that keeps coming up |
| 21:10.01 | JManV|Work | our bodies craved sugar because we needed calories |
| 21:10.01 | DonKalypso | like |
| 21:10.07 | DonKalypso | "Sugars this" and "Sugar that" |
| 21:10.19 | DonKalypso | But when I go to eat sugar, my mom hits me and says its bad for me |
| 21:10.23 | JManV|Work | we haven't adapted yet to the modern lifestyle |
| 21:10.35 | JManV|Work | where high calorie foods are abundant |
| 21:10.51 | DonKalypso | If I could afford it |
| 21:11.06 | DonKalypso | I'd eat Double Quarter Pounders with Cheese every day |
| 21:11.24 | JManV|Work | but imagine a hundred years ago, trying to meet your calorie needs while working on a farm or something like that |
| 21:11.27 | JademusSreg | Hm. I need to find a good splat. |
| 21:11.41 | JManV|Work | working all day while eating primarily low calorie foods |
| 21:11.43 | JademusSreg | Radial, cracked ground. |
| 21:12.14 | DonKalypso | Maybe being born in modern society was best for me |
| 21:12.27 | JManV|Work | so our bodies told us to start craving foods rich in sugar and/or fat |
| 21:12.59 | JManV|Work | at this rate, our bodies will most likely adapt a distaste for those kinds of foods over time |
| 21:13.07 | DonKalypso | NO |
| 21:13.13 | DonKalypso | I love my suggar loaded fat |
| 21:13.18 | DonKalypso | And my fat loaded sugar |
| 21:13.22 | JManV|Work | heh |
| 21:13.26 | JManV|Work | also known as donuts :P |
| 21:13.29 | DonKalypso | Not to mention my cancer loaded drinks |
| 21:13.37 | DonKalypso | Then again |
| 21:13.41 | DonKalypso | Everything gives you cancer |
| 21:14.03 | JManV|Work | yeah |
| 21:14.06 | DonKalypso | "Because you went outside, you now have lung cancer, and skin cancer. You'll be dead in three weeks." |
| 21:14.11 | JManV|Work | life gives you cancer |
| 21:14.30 | JManV|Work | life is in fact the leading cause of cancer :P |
| 21:14.47 | DonKalypso | "Sitting in front of your TV set for one night gave you eye cancer. You'll be blind in two days and dead in three." |
| 21:15.49 | DonKalypso | "Riding your bicycle gave you testicle cancer. I'd say you've got six runs of the Tour De France before your body finally gives out." |
| 21:17.06 | JManV|Work | heh |
| 21:18.53 | grim001 | ugh, I don't think it's going to be possible to instantly index units this time around |
| 21:19.02 | grim001 | they seem to get indexed after the current thread ends |
| 21:20.19 | JademusSreg | =\ |
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| 21:21.27 | grim001 | either the UnitCreated event is non-thread-interrupting or it has a built-in delay just like the WC3 event |
| 21:21.30 | AgentPaper | night all |
| 21:21.54 | grim001 | I assume events in general are thread-interrupting otherwise it'd be stupid |
| 21:21.55 | Hati | does anyone know if Galaxy supports UNICODE ? |
| 21:22.16 | grim001 | so it probably has the same built in 0.0 sec delay as WC3 did for the same GUI-related reasons |
| 21:22.42 | grim001 | however, I don't think there's any filter function equivalent that would let me work around it |
| 21:23.15 | JademusSreg | Text does. |
| 21:23.39 | JademusSreg | Text supports unicode, that's the extent of unicode support to my knowledge. |
| 21:23.47 | Hati | yeah but i mean Galaxy as the language itself |
| 21:23.57 | Hati | yeah locales are in unicode |
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| 21:25.50 | grim001 | triggers don't have filters this time, anyway |
| 21:26.53 | JademusSreg | Does anyone know of a splat that looks like cracked ground? It's going to take a while for me to find one, otherwise. |
| 21:27.21 | grim001 | anyway, since I no longer give a damn about "speed" or making functions 1 line long, I can just put a check into the function for whether it's been assigned an index |
| 21:27.45 | grim001 | which in fact removes the need to notice when units enter the map at all |
| 21:27.47 | Hati | JademusSreg: burrow |
| 21:27.56 | JademusSreg | Tried it, insufficient. |
| 21:28.05 | Hati | there's one with magma lines |
| 21:28.06 | JademusSreg | Burrow splats have a black hole in the center. |
| 21:28.38 | JademusSreg | Mara Sara cracks might work, yeah. |
| 21:28.55 | JademusSreg | The one without magma lines. |
| 21:30.24 | Demonette | nighty night everyone |
| 21:30.42 | JademusSreg | With a resize and recolor, they will be perfect. Thanks Hati. |
| 21:30.48 | Hati | np |
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| 21:53.47 | JademusSreg | Wow. Super weird bug here. |
| 21:54.28 | JademusSreg | CActorDoodad accidentally had its editor name changed to the name of one of my custom objects. |
| 21:59.07 | JManV|Work | ugh. data cleanup sucks. :( |
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| 21:59.28 | JManV|Work | just finding and flagging all the invalid/incomplete data sucks |
| 22:00.11 | MrOp | anyone want to help me test i need 3 people |
| 22:00.20 | FockeWulf | sure you on NA? |
| 22:00.24 | MrOp | yea |
| 22:00.31 | MrOp | let me publish |
| 22:00.32 | FockeWulf | channel? |
| 22:00.38 | MrOp | our channel |
| 22:00.43 | MrOp | sc2mapster |
| 22:00.53 | JManV|Work | are there other channels? :P |
| 22:01.01 | MrOp | jade can you come too please |
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| 22:06.48 | JManV|Work | i'm out |
| 22:06.55 | MrOp | :) |
| 22:09.20 | MrOp | sry fock i had a snag |
| 22:09.22 | MrOp | :/ |
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| 22:17.01 | MrOp | anyone in here want to help me test i need 2 people |
| 22:18.47 | Skizot | YOUR MOM DOES! |
| 22:18.49 | Skizot | haha! |
| 22:20.12 | Bounty | Looks like im going to be able to make the next Iconic Bosses video today |
| 22:20.21 | Bounty | If anyone wants to be in it let me know =P |
| 22:22.41 | JManV | i'm back |
| 22:22.49 | JademusSreg | I'm busy. |
| 22:22.54 | Skizot | i am a boss |
| 22:23.24 | JManV | like a bows |
| 22:23.47 | Skizot | hit on demonette |
| 22:23.58 | JManV | like a bows? |
| 22:24.02 | Skizot | take a shit on bounties desk |
| 22:24.13 | JManV | like a bows |
| 22:24.14 | Skizot | fuck a pirate |
| 22:24.18 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:24.19 | JManV | like a bows |
| 22:24.23 | Skizot | stab a ninja |
| 22:24.27 | JManV | like a bows |
| 22:24.39 | Skizot | chocke out sixen with my testicle skin |
| 22:24.46 | JManV | like a bows |
| 22:24.59 | Skizot | make pimp ass models to cover it all up |
| 22:25.02 | JManV | although that one's a little disturbing :P |
| 22:25.07 | JManV | like a bows |
| 22:25.41 | Skittles_ | back |
| 22:25.55 | Bounty | If this next video from Iconic Bosses doesnt make people shit their pants nothing will |
| 22:25.55 | MrOp | hay man |
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| 22:25.59 | MrOp | skit jump in please |
| 22:26.02 | MrOp | i have 3 waiting |
| 22:26.07 | Skittles_ | mk |
| 22:26.17 | Skizot | the dude fucks a giant fish in the sewer. i dount choking someout out with testicle skin is far off. |
| 22:26.28 | Sixen | nou |
| 22:26.33 | JManV | naw man, that ain't me. |
| 22:26.50 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 22:27.34 | MrOp | jman you want to jump in and help me test |
| 22:27.42 | MrOp | i think someone is about to leave |
| 22:27.47 | MrOp | or jade |
| 22:27.58 | JademusSreg | I'm busy. |
| 22:28.03 | MrOp | skittles are you coming |
| 22:28.24 | JManV | i /just/ got hom |
| 22:28.41 | JManV | like a bows |
| 22:28.43 | MrOp | i know |
| 22:28.47 | MrOp | i have 3 waiting |
| 22:28.51 | MrOp | XD |
| 22:28.53 | Skittles_ | mmm |
| 22:28.59 | Skittles_ | ur counting ur self again! |
| 22:28.59 | MrOp | i need one more |
| 22:29.02 | JManV | i know, but i *just* got home |
| 22:29.07 | MrOp | i know |
| 22:29.08 | MrOp | lol |
| 22:29.16 | JManV | need to unwind first |
| 22:29.21 | MrOp | :/ |
| 22:29.23 | MrOp | k |
| 22:29.25 | Skittles_ | have u played the crysis demo jmanv? |
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| 22:30.19 | Skizot | jesus christ. |
| 22:30.22 | Skizot | 4 gigs. |
| 22:30.30 | Skizot | i started it on the 15th of feburary |
| 22:30.31 | Skittles_ | for? |
| 22:30.34 | Skizot | it's at 84% |
| 22:30.38 | Skittles_ | all ur models? |
| 22:30.45 | Skizot | a download. |
| 22:30.48 | Skittles_ | im so confused |
| 22:30.50 | Skittles_ | oh lol |
| 22:30.52 | Skittles_ | torrent? |
| 22:30.57 | Skizot | yah |
| 22:31.01 | Skittles_ | pirating? |
| 22:31.07 | Skizot | no so much |
| 22:31.18 | Skizot | my son broke his "how to train your dragon" dvd. |
| 22:31.24 | Skizot | so i'm getting a backup of it. |
| 22:31.30 | Skittles_ | lol |
| 22:31.47 | Skittles_ | u have a son? I thought you were like 18 or something. lol |
| 22:31.52 | JManV | so you were downloading yesterday skiz? |
| 22:31.56 | Skizot | i have a son and a daughter |
| 22:32.02 | MrOp | skiz do you want help me test |
| 22:32.05 | JademusSreg | I have two daughters. |
| 22:32.09 | Skizot | i stopped it for a bit to try and join. |
| 22:32.09 | JManV | shakes his head |
| 22:32.14 | JManV | oh, ok |
| 22:32.16 | JManV | wow |
| 22:32.18 | JademusSreg | Which I will be watching for most of the night. |
| 22:32.21 | MrOp | i have no daughters |
| 22:32.23 | MrOp | :( |
| 22:32.23 | JManV | your internet sucks man |
| 22:32.30 | Skizot | i'm also 30. |
| 22:32.49 | JManV | i turn 34 shortly |
| 22:32.58 | Skizot | 31 in july |
| 22:33.46 | Skizot | 7 13 bitches |
| 22:33.51 | tordy | woah |
| 22:33.53 | tordy | what's goin on guys |
| 22:34.23 | JademusSreg | I'm communicating with the Scrin, plotting to create tiberium. |
| 22:34.28 | tordy | =o |
| 22:34.32 | tordy | makin a C&C type game!? |
| 22:34.39 | JademusSreg | I'm making tiberium in SC2. |
| 22:34.40 | MrOp | tordy can you help me test |
| 22:34.43 | MrOp | i need a 4th |
| 22:34.46 | MrOp | got 3 waiting |
| 22:34.53 | tordy | i would but im not on sc2 comp now |
| 22:35.02 | MrOp | (_ _) |
| 22:35.12 | MrOp | cant you get on it |
| 22:35.14 | MrOp | XD |
| 22:35.17 | tordy | nope |
| 22:35.17 | JManV | making it so you start with half an army, so all you have to do is make like 2 units and rush? |
| 22:35.19 | tordy | in class right now xd |
| 22:35.22 | MrOp | o |
| 22:35.32 | tordy | now tha ti think about it |
| 22:35.36 | JManV | poke at C&C |
| 22:35.39 | tordy | did anyone make a C&C type gameplay map yet |
| 22:35.40 | tordy | or mod |
| 22:35.45 | tordy | i thought about it |
| 22:36.00 | JManV | i want to see a dawn of war mod |
| 22:36.01 | JademusSreg | I am perplexed by a particular actor event, but otherwise my work is going smoothly. |
| 22:36.17 | tordy | but i couldn't figure out how to get a graphical interface building thing goin |
| 22:36.28 | JademusSreg | And I have zero interest in emulating C&C; the gameplay aspired to mediocrity, it set the bar. |
| 22:36.49 | JademusSreg | C&C was, however, always full of cool ideas. |
| 22:36.49 | JManV | but the cut-scenes... epic |
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| 22:36.54 | JademusSreg | Which is what I love about it. |
| 22:37.36 | JademusSreg | I love tiberium, for instance. Self-replicating dynamic proton lattice. <3 |
| 22:37.43 | Skizot | tim curry > all |
| 22:37.48 | JManV | yes |
| 22:37.51 | JManV | tim curry :P |
| 22:38.05 | Skizot | TIM CURRY |
| 22:38.10 | JManV | and tanya |
| 22:38.12 | JManV | mmmm... tanya |
| 22:38.16 | Skizot | TIM. |
| 22:38.19 | Skizot | CURRY. |
| 22:38.49 | tordy | self-replicating minerals? |
| 22:38.50 | tordy | =o |
| 22:38.51 | tordy | :] |
| 22:38.58 | Skizot | you need a pocketman named Timkurie. |
| 22:39.00 | tordy | well not really the minerals |
| 22:39.06 | Skizot | that just screams TIM CURRY at you. |
| 22:39.07 | tordy | you need a tiberium tree if i'm not mistaken |
| 22:40.06 | JademusSreg | Naw, fuck that. I am going to make tiberium self replicate. |
| 22:40.08 | Skizot | +1 coolness if it looks like darkness from legend. |
| 22:40.28 | JademusSreg | The way it did in Tiberian Sun, before those EA pansies bound them to generators. |
| 22:40.31 | JManV | heh |
| 22:41.09 | Skizot | it could be your magikarp! |
| 22:41.25 | Skizot | when it upgrade it shouts tim curry AND makes you blow up. |
| 22:42.11 | Skizot | or throws a unicorn horn at you. |
| 22:42.20 | Skizot | a giant FUCK OFF unicorn horn. |
| 22:42.22 | tordy | C&C died at 3rd one |
| 22:42.28 | tordy | and then really died at 4th one |
| 22:42.40 | Skizot | that makes that pocketman go back into it's ball |
| 22:42.46 | JademusSreg | What I find perplexing is that the actor event that applies the splat at different behavior levels applies them all simultaneously. Really quite weird. |
| 22:42.51 | Skizot | and that's it's only attack. |
| 22:42.52 | JManV | red alert 2 was epic |
| 22:43.12 | JademusSreg | Anyway, it's no big deal to kill those events. |
| 22:43.20 | JManV | red alert 3 was mediocre |
| 22:43.23 | tordy | im a fan of generals |
| 22:43.28 | tordy | dont say dustin browder |
| 22:43.31 | tordy | DUSTIN BROWDER |
| 22:43.43 | Skizot | TIM CURRY |
| 22:43.47 | tordy | >:( |
| 22:44.08 | Skizot | TIM CURRY! |
| 22:47.31 | JManV | i never played generals |
| 22:47.37 | JademusSreg | Don't. |
| 22:49.11 | JademusSreg | Watching SCVs harvest tiberium is adorable. |
| 22:51.00 | Skittles_ | brb |
| 22:51.28 | JManV | heh |
| 22:57.39 | Clord | EA wanted that EALA does RTS games what are competing with Blizzard level or whatever XD |
| 22:57.41 | Clord | problem was |
| 22:57.45 | Clord | they didn't took their funding seriously |
| 22:57.51 | Clord | or how much time it takes lol ;) |
| 23:00.29 | Skittles_ | back |
| 23:01.08 | MrOp | thxs |
| 23:01.26 | MrOp | skit was arad on the room with you |
| 23:01.34 | MrOp | when it stoped working |
| 23:02.28 | Skittles_ | no |
| 23:02.42 | MrOp | ok i will check it |
| 23:02.48 | MrOp | you wher eplayer 3 right |
| 23:03.01 | Skittles_ | bottom left |
| 23:03.09 | MrOp | k |
| 23:03.59 | Bounty | Down for testing the Zeratul boss fight skits? :) |
| 23:04.45 | MrOp | so you destroyed the building but where not able to leave skittles |
| 23:10.42 | Icebane | nn dudes! |
| 23:10.49 | JManV | peace out |
| 23:13.30 | MrOp | how do i set up if triggering unit is alive |
| 23:14.04 | Skizot | check that it's health > 0 |
| 23:14.23 | MrOp | i mean how do i write the trigger |
| 23:15.24 | Skizot | with the gui! |
| 23:15.26 | Skizot | :V |
| 23:15.36 | MrOp | y |
| 23:15.43 | MrOp | :/ |
| 23:15.45 | MrOp | lol |
| 23:17.51 | EonShiKeno_ | Do any high quality skyboxes exist? |
| 23:19.02 | JManV | high quality texture or model? |
| 23:19.49 | EonShiKeno_ | Umm, texture I would think a model wouldn't help that much |
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| 23:20.08 | JManV | ok, so you just want a dome with a hq texture? |
| 23:20.13 | Skizot | lol |
| 23:20.15 | EonShiKeno_ | yea |
| 23:20.20 | JManV | i just wanted to understand what you mean |
| 23:20.46 | JManV | you could bring out a skybox model, change the texture and import it in as another name |
| 23:21.07 | JManV | you'd have to change the texture name too, as well as the reference inside the model |
| 23:22.02 | Skizot | i could make one for you. |
| 23:22.08 | Skizot | $25 |
| 23:22.09 | JManV | or that |
| 23:22.10 | Skittles_ | mrop |
| 23:22.35 | Skittles_ | i killed it, but not all the zerglings, about to die, blinked a few cms, and ran to the door, there I got an error array message and the building respawned |
| 23:33.00 | JManV | sweet. music switching works |
| 23:33.25 | Bounty | Is sixen here? |
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| 23:49.02 | JManV | wtf |
| 23:49.08 | JManV | soundtracks make no sense |
| 23:49.17 | JManV | how does stopping a soundtrack make music play? |
| 23:49.27 | *** part/#sc2mapster Sixen (~Kevin@149-169-130-189.nat.asu.edu) |
| 23:52.41 | JademusSreg | I do not know, since I've not looked into it, but I'm guessing Sound actors. |
| 23:52.59 | JManV | all triggers |
| 23:53.11 | JManV | well, that's not entirely true |
| 23:53.15 | JManV | but there are no actors |
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| 23:56.14 | Bounty | Are Timer arrays broken or something |
| 23:56.14 | JManV | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.24 | JManV | seems like a pretty straightforward command |
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