| 00:11.20 | Skittles | hmm |
| 00:12.46 | MrOp | wow that only took like an hour @@ |
| 00:15.39 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 00:15.43 | Sixen | haii |
| 00:15.48 | JademusSreg | Hihi |
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| 00:16.39 | JademusSreg | Went to the gym, did cardio for an hour and a half, purchased a saw and wood, grocery shopping, cooked dinner. Phew. |
| 00:16.55 | MrOp | hi |
| 00:16.56 | MrOp | XD |
| 00:16.58 | JademusSreg | I'm ready to relax. |
| 00:17.08 | Sixen | Me too >.> |
| 00:17.10 | MrOp | now you can write a super amazing trigger for me |
| 00:17.22 | MrOp | and i wont even ask you hwo it works XD |
| 00:17.25 | MrOp | lol |
| 00:17.31 | JademusSreg | Haha, I wouldn't do that! =D |
| 00:17.36 | JademusSreg | You wouldn't learn from it. |
| 00:17.43 | Sixen | Whatever happened to Mind? :( |
| 00:18.04 | MrOp | i cant learn to much from you anyway... you talk in programming nerd |
| 00:18.11 | MrOp | XD |
| 00:18.14 | JademusSreg | Give a man a fish, and he doesn't learn a goddamned thing, amirite? |
| 00:18.21 | Sixen | haha |
| 00:18.41 | MrOp | well you speak in a language people done understand then you cant get made |
| 00:18.49 | MrOp | no teveryone is as cool as you |
| 00:18.51 | MrOp | :p |
| 00:19.33 | JademusSreg | Why can't I get made? I love getting made. |
| 00:19.42 | MrOp | do you mean laid |
| 00:21.30 | Skittles | sixen |
| 00:21.33 | Sixen | sup |
| 00:21.35 | Skittles | you're slacking off. |
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| 00:21.37 | Sixen | nou |
| 00:21.39 | Skittles | 48 hours and no new news. |
| 00:21.43 | Sixen | Mmm |
| 00:21.45 | Sixen | 1.3 is importante. |
| 00:21.53 | Skittles | My zerglings can jump tho! |
| 00:21.55 | Skittles | lol |
| 00:21.55 | Sixen | lol |
| 00:21.57 | Skittles | neato! |
| 00:22.03 | FockeWulf | This the same sixen as the master forum troll? |
| 00:22.14 | Skittles | Yeah! U bet! |
| 00:22.17 | Sixen | The one and only, I suppose:P |
| 00:22.23 | Skittles | Super Ultra Mega Troll |
| 00:22.27 | FockeWulf | ok cool |
| 00:22.39 | Skittles | hmm |
| 00:22.42 | MrOp | who is |
| 00:22.46 | MrOp | o |
| 00:22.48 | FockeWulf | lol |
| 00:22.48 | MrOp | lol |
| 00:22.53 | Skittles | I wonder if I should upload textures for my terrain |
| 00:23.08 | FockeWulf | custom terrain textures? |
| 00:23.09 | FockeWulf | lol |
| 00:23.10 | Skittles | Since d3 looks more like paint, unrefined type of textures |
| 00:23.11 | Skittles | yeah |
| 00:23.21 | Skittles | hmm |
| 00:23.25 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 00:23.30 | Skittles | There's a blur option, i wonder if that does this. |
| 00:24.08 | FockeWulf | The way Blizzfail is going they had better be careful or they may run themselves into a lot of bad rep (not like they haven't done that already). |
| 00:24.59 | Skittles | that would be a no |
| 00:25.13 | Skittles | what are u talking about focke? |
| 00:25.28 | Skittles | I still like them. |
| 00:25.45 | Skittles | They make good games, and if that takes time, then i'm glad they take that time. |
| 00:26.36 | FockeWulf | I'd call you a suckup except that would probably get me banned. |
| 00:27.12 | Skittles | I would be sucking up... to the blizzard god who sees all and knows all then? |
| 00:28.31 | JademusSreg | I must admit that, as awesome as the Blizzard modding community is, it's not crucial to the bottom line. Expecting a company to cater to a loud minority is irrational. |
| 00:28.52 | FockeWulf | Well, I'd have to point out one little thing. |
| 00:29.04 | FockeWulf | WC3 ran for so long because of the modding community |
| 00:29.08 | JademusSreg | True. |
| 00:29.37 | FockeWulf | the melee wasn't as popular as the sc1 one was. |
| 00:29.51 | FockeWulf | But when you put DotA in there, made possible by the modders |
| 00:30.01 | FockeWulf | You have a game that really can't fail. |
| 00:30.11 | JademusSreg | Though I don't have the numbers on how many WC3 battlechests sold so people could play DotA, I expect it wasn't a significant sum. |
| 00:31.12 | Skittles | I don't really get why dota won the aos race either. ToB was way better. |
| 00:31.25 | FockeWulf | Well lets put it this way |
| 00:31.32 | Skittles | what's focal depth on the camera? |
| 00:31.33 | FockeWulf | DotA was a little past its prime |
| 00:31.40 | FockeWulf | and the main forums alone had 3 million accounts |
| 00:32.14 | FockeWulf | LoL has got god know how many players, and its maker also made DotA |
| 00:33.31 | Skittles | ? |
| 00:33.47 | Skittles | Lol didn't hire icefrog I don't think? |
| 00:33.48 | Skittles | Valve hired him to make Dota 2 |
| 00:34.30 | JademusSreg | Eul works for LoL? /joke |
| 00:34.32 | FockeWulf | Icefrog wasn't the guy who origionally made DotA either. |
| 00:35.14 | FockeWulf | And the bottom line is that wc3 had a lot of "custom game only" clans. and Sc1 had their fair share of those too. |
| 00:35.21 | FockeWulf | And all those guys ported over to sc2 |
| 00:35.38 | FockeWulf | Hence: Blizzfail. |
| 00:35.45 | FockeWulf | To find that Blizzard had totally, and epically failed. |
| 00:36.46 | Skittles | I know he wasn't the original guy.. |
| 00:36.58 | Skittles | But he made it what it was |
| 00:36.58 | Skittles | the other guy basically just made the terrain |
| 00:37.12 | JademusSreg | HWAHT? |
| 00:37.31 | JademusSreg | Eul was modding slk files manually before editor supported custom data. |
| 00:37.33 | Skittles | no? |
| 00:37.48 | Skittles | eh |
| 00:37.56 | Skittles | Either way, dota sucks. =D |
| 00:38.19 | JademusSreg | I don't enjoy it and poorly scripted, I can say that much. |
| 00:38.24 | JademusSreg | Memory leaks abound. |
| 00:39.12 | Skittles | :p |
| 00:39.14 | Skittles | wc3 = memory leaks abound |
| 00:39.51 | JademusSreg | Poorly scripted maps will have memory leaks due to a poor garbage collection system. |
| 00:40.24 | JademusSreg | It doesn't properly deallocate values, so all handle types had to be nulled explicitly, such a pain. |
| 00:40.53 | JademusSreg | *local handle types |
| 00:42.33 | JademusSreg | has slain The Conversation. JademusSreg gains 320 exp. |
| 00:45.21 | Skittles | such a nerd. |
| 00:46.21 | JademusSreg | Good thing this is a modding community, or that might be problematic. |
| 00:47.07 | Skittles | lol |
| 00:47.24 | Skittles | who u calling a nerd, nerd. |
| 00:47.36 | Abstruse | um |
| 00:47.37 | Abstruse | skittles |
| 00:47.45 | Skittles | hmm |
| 00:47.51 | Skittles | abstruse |
| 00:47.59 | Abstruse | this is mirc |
| 00:48.09 | Abstruse | we're all nerds or worse |
| 00:48.18 | Abstruse | so if he's calling oyu a nerd on mirc |
| 00:48.20 | Skittles | mirc? |
| 00:48.21 | Abstruse | it's a compliment |
| 00:48.34 | Abstruse | intranet chat relay |
| 00:48.35 | Abstruse | dsfkljasdk;l |
| 00:48.48 | Skittles | it was a joke, calm down. |
| 00:48.53 | Abstruse | aw |
| 00:49.05 | Abstruse | i just had to cut in cause i came around and you were being edgy |
| 00:49.20 | Skittles | also, jade is a girls name. |
| 00:49.23 | Skittles | Hint hint, nudge nudge |
| 00:49.56 | Skittles | "he" |
| 00:50.00 | Skittles | :p |
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| 00:50.01 | JademusSreg | http://www.youtube.com/user/msivideo#p/u/10/UR0UkTiKxmc <3 |
| 00:50.15 | Demonette | Hi skizot |
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| 00:51.50 | Demonette_ | wth? |
| 00:52.04 | JademusSreg | Hello again. |
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| 00:52.35 | Skittles_ | lol i like his hair |
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| 00:54.00 | Skittles__ | I keep disconnecting... |
| 00:55.08 | Skittles__ | i did not! |
| 01:00.39 | slightlyrandom | Abstruse: mIRC is a program, IRC is a protocol |
| 01:02.03 | Skittles__ | why isn't depth of field changing for me? |
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| 01:02.28 | MrOp | you need to make sure your graphics setting are set to high or something |
| 01:02.31 | MrOp | or higher* |
| 01:02.39 | MrOp | for the editor |
| 01:02.41 | MrOp | ^^ |
| 01:04.21 | Skittles__ | it's on ultra in the editor |
| 01:04.27 | Skittles__ | and high in game (where im testing) |
| 01:05.15 | Skittles__ | there we go! |
| 01:05.17 | Skittles__ | needed ultra |
| 01:05.21 | Skittles__ | thanks |
| 01:05.34 | MrOp | o |
| 01:05.37 | MrOp | XD |
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| 01:11.53 | Vindicator | omg this is the funniest sc2 replay i've ever seen |
| 01:11.54 | Vindicator | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-3ZrXOrz_0&feature=bf_next&list=QL&index=4 |
| 01:16.03 | MrOp | lol |
| 01:17.02 | MrOp | ROFL |
| 01:17.42 | Vindicator | i know right? |
| 01:17.50 | Vindicator | it's gets better if u watch it after the fail too |
| 01:17.56 | MrOp | i am |
| 01:18.24 | MrOp | DOUBLE RAINBOW |
| 01:19.52 | Skittles__ | LMAO |
| 01:19.54 | Skittles__ | that was a funny ass video |
| 01:20.07 | MrOp | yea |
| 01:22.21 | Skittles__ | did u read the most highest rated comment too? |
| 01:23.33 | Vindicator | lol ya |
| 01:23.35 | Vindicator | the probe face |
| 01:24.37 | Skittles__ | haha yeah |
| 01:25.14 | Skittles__ | mm |
| 01:25.22 | Skittles__ | I've 1 subscriber. |
| 01:25.28 | Skittles__ | I feel special. |
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| 01:28.48 | Tordy | turns out there is a variable repalce, but it wont work w/ replacing variables w/ variables within records |
| 01:28.49 | Tordy | ARISDJGKLF |
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| 01:39.20 | Demonette | .. |
| 01:39.48 | Vexal | i need input. |
| 01:40.38 | Vexal | which would be more fun for a Team Hero Survival (think Enfo's). Requiring players to choose their team hero makeup similar to a dungeon run in WoW, where only the tank can take damage, and requires a healer, plus dps. Or instead just making every hero do equal damage, but do the damage in different ways from other heroes |
| 01:44.02 | Demonette | Mmhhh |
| 01:44.12 | Demonette | should it force teamplay? |
| 01:44.16 | Skittles__ | hmm |
| 01:44.46 | Skittles__ | Make every hero a dps with alternate rolls being possible |
| 01:44.54 | Skittles__ | like in dc universe |
| 01:45.16 | Vexal | but |
| 01:45.21 | Vexal | isn't that kind of selling out |
| 01:45.21 | Skittles__ | basically, have two skill trees. 1 focusing on dps, the other on tanking/healing/??? |
| 01:45.27 | Vexal | trees? |
| 01:45.31 | Vexal | it takes me all day to make one spell |
| 01:45.31 | Skittles__ | yeah |
| 01:45.32 | Vexal | screw that |
| 01:45.38 | Skittles__ | haha oh right |
| 01:45.41 | Skittles__ | your a data nerd. |
| 01:45.48 | Vexal | i don't think players can handle more than 5 or 6 spells |
| 01:45.55 | Skittles__ | nahhh |
| 01:46.05 | Vexal | if it's a fast paced game with 100's of enemies at once |
| 01:46.05 | Demonette | true =) |
| 01:46.07 | Skittles__ | 5 or 6 per tree, and they gotta stick to 1 tree or something |
| 01:46.16 | Skittles__ | basically on my d3 ish map i'm gonna do this: |
| 01:46.19 | Demonette | except most of them are passivs XD |
| 01:46.20 | Vexal | i can't decide whether players should have 5 spells or 6 |
| 01:46.24 | Vexal | well |
| 01:46.32 | Vexal | you only need 1 direct damage spell, 1 utility damage spell |
| 01:46.33 | Vexal | an ultimate |
| 01:46.35 | Vexal | and then passives. |
| 01:46.39 | Skittles__ | 2 spells per tier, 6 tiers. You can only pick 1 spell from each tier. |
| 01:47.09 | Vexal | i haven't decided yet. |
| 01:47.19 | Vexal | at the moment, i'm considering allowing any hero to pick any spell |
| 01:47.24 | Vexal | but likely will not do so. |
| 01:47.32 | Vexal | i don't see the point of having trees |
| 01:47.38 | Vexal | instead of trees, just pick a different hero. |
| 01:47.49 | Vexal | actually |
| 01:48.00 | Skittles__ | I'm trying myself, to do a variety of the spells. Instead of just having people pick them for different looks or for the one that does the most dmg. |
| 01:48.02 | Vexal | this is so confusing. there are so many choices how to design. |
| 01:48.14 | Vexal | i think the bigger the scope of the game, the further the customization should go |
| 01:48.15 | Skittles__ | haha, yeah. |
| 01:48.20 | Vexal | if i make it so each time you play, your hero stats persist |
| 01:48.26 | Vexal | then having an in-depth tree could be a good thing. |
| 01:48.40 | Skittles__ | eh |
| 01:48.49 | Skittles__ | stats persisting would be troublesome |
| 01:49.05 | Skittles__ | Cuz you would need to forum a party b4 playing. |
| 01:49.09 | Skittles__ | form8 |
| 01:49.11 | Vexal | yeah |
| 01:49.19 | Vexal | you can't beat my TD without playing with a group of players |
| 01:49.25 | Skittles__ | ehh |
| 01:49.25 | Vexal | they have to decide the role of each person beforehand |
| 01:49.29 | Vexal | else you're screwed. |
| 01:49.30 | Skittles__ | can, if you get lucky. |
| 01:49.33 | Vexal | that's what makes it so popular. |
| 01:49.36 | Vexal | that's very, very rare |
| 01:49.42 | Skittles__ | like 1/5 or so |
| 01:49.45 | Skittles__ | or maybe 1/10 |
| 01:49.46 | Skittles__ | idk |
| 01:49.48 | Vexal | there are hundreds of players in the vexal chat channels going "LFM LFG" |
| 01:49.48 | Skittles__ | anyway |
| 01:49.54 | Skittles__ | haha |
| 01:49.59 | Skittles__ | yeah, I stopped going there. |
| 01:50.03 | Skittles__ | To much spam. |
| 01:50.14 | Vexal | me too. |
| 01:50.22 | Skittles__ | 1 post is nice, 2 is friendly, 3 is hellishly bound. |
| 01:50.29 | Vexal | what |
| 01:50.42 | Skittles__ | We need one more ask for invite! |
| 01:50.56 | Skittles__ | See what I did there? |
| 01:50.59 | Skittles__ | anyway |
| 01:51.00 | Skittles__ | lol |
| 01:51.24 | Vexal | people take it way too seriously. |
| 01:51.27 | Vexal | it's a freaking TD. |
| 01:51.28 | Vexal | gosh. |
| 01:51.35 | Skittles__ | I had this old system idea awhile back |
| 01:51.43 | Skittles__ | it was basically, open classes, but mirrored. |
| 01:52.02 | Skittles__ | Basically, you had 4 alignments |
| 01:52.14 | Skittles__ | fire and water |
| 01:52.16 | Skittles__ | so say, for isntance |
| 01:52.19 | Skittles__ | would be a skill tree name |
| 01:52.42 | Skittles__ | if u picked a fire spell, on the other side of the mirror (water) you couldn't pick the spell on that slot. |
| 01:53.14 | Skittles__ | ofc, that was more of a rpg game. |
| 01:53.35 | Skittles__ | had like, 4 alignments + 3 trees on each alignment planned out. |
| 01:53.58 | Skittles__ | fire and water would be alignment names I meant to say. |
| 01:54.40 | Skittles__ | I feel like I lost yeah. |
| 01:54.49 | Vexal | huh |
| 01:54.55 | Vexal | i was going to the bathroom |
| 01:54.55 | Skittles__ | haha |
| 01:54.59 | Vexal | i didn't miss. |
| 01:55.22 | Skittles__ | hmm |
| 01:55.43 | Skittles__ | Funnest thing about enfos was the large variety of heroes |
| 01:56.49 | Vexal | that's not going to happen. |
| 01:56.56 | Vexal | it takes me forever even with triggers |
| 01:57.11 | Vexal | i'm considering making it so players can unlock abilities as they play |
| 01:57.15 | Vexal | and level |
| 01:57.24 | Vexal | and when you start each game, you choose from the abilities you've unlocked |
| 01:57.37 | Skittles__ | mm |
| 01:57.55 | Skittles__ | would keep players coming back i suppose |
| 01:58.07 | Vexal | it would add more depth |
| 01:58.14 | Skittles__ | but, the powers would all need to be balanced perfectly |
| 01:58.16 | Vexal | and prevent me from having to spend 5 years in the data editor |
| 01:58.18 | Vexal | well |
| 01:58.24 | Vexal | diablo has 3 difficulties |
| 01:58.30 | Skittles__ | hmm? |
| 01:58.34 | Vexal | players would select the one akin to their hero levels |
| 01:58.36 | Skittles__ | has difficulties for pvp |
| 01:58.52 | Skittles__ | pve I dont think it does really. |
| 01:58.58 | Vexal | what do you mean |
| 01:59.08 | Skittles__ | Other then the fact that they are still trying new things for "mana" and so it doesn't take enough mana to do anything |
| 01:59.37 | Skittles__ | d3 is designed for pve first hand and pvp 2nd hand. So they have this rock paper scissors thing atm |
| 01:59.45 | Vexal | well |
| 01:59.48 | Vexal | enfo's is pve |
| 01:59.50 | Skittles__ | so i've read. |
| 01:59.52 | Skittles__ | it's |
| 01:59.57 | Skittles__ | pve with a bit of pvp |
| 02:00.03 | Skittles__ | remember offensive spells? |
| 02:00.12 | Skittles__ | like the thiefs steal gold, or the books powers |
| 02:01.09 | Vexal | yeah |
| 02:01.16 | Vexal | i'd like to make an offensive spell |
| 02:01.18 | Vexal | that makes a rock wall |
| 02:01.23 | Vexal | also i love tornadoes |
| 02:01.27 | Vexal | and |
| 02:01.34 | Vexal | well anything with awesome explosions that screws players. |
| 02:02.04 | Skittles__ | have u played magicka? |
| 02:02.22 | Vexal | nope sounds gay |
| 02:02.29 | Vexal | can't imagine how they can't think of a better name |
| 02:02.31 | Skittles__ | have u seen any videos of it? |
| 02:02.34 | Vexal | nope |
| 02:02.35 | Vexal | videos suck |
| 02:02.38 | Skittles__ | watch a few. |
| 02:02.43 | Skittles__ | It's a really nice game. |
| 02:02.43 | Vexal | i'm lazy. |
| 02:02.51 | Skittles__ | Alright i'll describe it in a can. |
| 02:03.09 | Skittles__ | qwer & asdf are all different elements |
| 02:03.20 | Skittles__ | you have 5 element slots |
| 02:03.35 | Skittles__ | you combine the elements (some can't be combined and cancel each other out) to create a spell |
| 02:03.51 | Skittles__ | and you can also combine them on the battlefield |
| 02:03.59 | Skittles__ | such as, water on the enemy, makes him soaked |
| 02:04.07 | Skittles__ | and then u use electricity to fry him for bonus dmg |
| 02:04.19 | Skittles__ | or use frost to make him frozen completely, rather then partially |
| 02:04.53 | Skittles__ | and then, you find spell books. Spell books unlock combinations that create bigger badder spells. Like tornadoe |
| 02:04.57 | Skittles__ | or invisibility |
| 02:04.59 | Skittles__ | or meteor shower |
| 02:05.02 | Skittles__ | and blah |
| 02:05.41 | Skittles__ | on the spell bar (where you combine the elements) you can also combine things prehand like, ice and water, which create frozen pellets. |
| 02:05.58 | Skittles__ | well, it's water and frost that create ice I should say. |
| 02:07.09 | Skittles__ | you right click to use the power when your elements are all worked out. This will do the spell as a spray/singleshot/whatever the combinations does. Or you could hit shift + right mouse to make w/e u combined into a aoe spell around your hero |
| 02:07.22 | Skittles__ | or use middle mouse to cast it on your self. |
| 02:07.23 | Skittles__ | that's about it. |
| 02:09.15 | Skittles__ | brb |
| 02:12.51 | Skittles__ | baclk |
| 02:14.46 | Vexal | i forgot about this conversation. |
| 02:14.49 | Vexal | sorry. |
| 02:15.20 | Skittles__ | haha |
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| 02:25.27 | Tordy | cha cha! |
| 02:25.54 | MrOp | cho cho |
| 02:29.29 | Skittles__ | coa coa |
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| 02:38.10 | Guest14803 | Hey can someone help, is there anyway to have negatice height, trying to modify unit -> height and won't go below the terrain. |
| 02:38.33 | MrOp | we cant help people that dont have names XD |
| 02:38.37 | MrOp | and idk btw |
| 02:38.38 | MrOp | ^^ |
| 02:38.57 | Guest14803 | it keeps changing my name to guest dunno |
| 02:39.36 | Guest14803 | Trying to make a quick sand type of thing going on |
| 02:39.49 | MrOp | your guess is as good as mine |
| 02:39.54 | MrOp | i wouldnt mind knowning too |
| 02:40.10 | MrOp | problably some dumb site operation thing |
| 02:40.14 | MrOp | (_ _) |
| 02:40.17 | Guest14803 | hmm |
| 02:40.39 | Guest14803 | forgot about actors |
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| 02:41.12 | Guest14803 | gonna test it right quick |
| 02:41.17 | Guest14803 | w/site ops |
| 02:42.22 | MrOp | i am just guessing |
| 02:42.35 | Guest14803 | ya doesnt work |
| 02:42.44 | Guest14803 | still glides on terrain height |
| 02:43.13 | Guest14803 | did local offset -20 for a missile and just stuck to the ground |
| 02:44.46 | Tordy | you think it's a good idea to put admin abilities in a map online? |
| 02:45.22 | Tordy | the way i plan on authenticating admin abilities is a hash in the bank file |
| 02:45.37 | Tordy | i mean not a hash |
| 02:45.42 | JademusSreg | 20.2320 |
| 02:45.52 | JademusSreg | 213 |
| 02:45.55 | JademusSreg | 3 |
| 02:46.03 | Tordy | some string |
| 02:46.14 | JademusSreg | 00000010100000000000000000000000000... |
| 02:46.17 | JademusSreg | . |
| 02:46.17 | JademusSreg | 03 |
| 02:46.20 | JademusSreg | . |
| 02:46.21 | JademusSreg | 30 |
| 02:46.22 | Tordy | the hash is in the map |
| 02:46.23 | JademusSreg | 30.2 |
| 02:46.33 | JademusSreg | .. |
| 02:46.35 | JademusSreg | ..... |
| 02:46.35 | JademusSreg | . |
| 02:46.37 | JademusSreg | . |
| 02:46.39 | JademusSreg | .......................... |
| 02:46.40 | Tordy | password is in the bank |
| 02:46.42 | JademusSreg | .... |
| 02:46.43 | JademusSreg | .. |
| 02:46.45 | JademusSreg | + |
| 02:46.46 | Tordy | sup |
| 02:46.48 | JademusSreg | +3 |
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| 02:48.40 | MrOp | jade are you being wierd again |
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| 02:52.44 | Skittles__ | guest14803 still there? |
| 02:52.51 | Guest14803 | ya |
| 02:52.58 | Skittles__ | Use ignore terrain height. |
| 02:53.07 | Skittles__ | It automatically makes the height of the unit 0. |
| 02:53.14 | MrOp | skittles is awesume |
| 02:53.17 | MrOp | WOOT |
| 02:53.18 | Skittles__ | Which is below almost all maps. |
| 02:53.30 | MrOp | but how do you set the height |
| 02:53.31 | Guest14803 | Then how will you have pathing |
| 02:53.51 | Skittles__ | noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! my trial of microsoft word has ran out! |
| 02:53.53 | Skittles__ | Pathing? |
| 02:53.57 | Skittles__ | He's sunken isn't here? |
| 02:54.01 | Guest14803 | Basically want to make a unit go into the ground 1/2 up to its belly |
| 02:54.07 | Guest14803 | but can move |
| 02:54.11 | Skittles__ | oh |
| 02:54.13 | MrOp | you should look at his tut |
| 02:54.16 | MrOp | the zerg |
| 02:54.18 | Skittles__ | trigger wise: |
| 02:54.36 | MrOp | o skit i think i am going to use your zerg pwnage as a final wave on my map |
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| 02:54.49 | MrOp | hi skiz |
| 02:54.52 | Skittles__ | Ignore terrain height. Change Unit height to height of environment point (position of unit) -.5 |
| 02:55.01 | Skittles__ | neat. |
| 02:55.04 | AgentPaper | hey skittles |
| 02:55.13 | AgentPaper | uh, skittles imposter rather |
| 02:55.14 | AgentPaper | XD |
| 02:55.19 | Skittles__ | The cliffs only look good from a 90 & 270 degree perspective so u know. |
| 02:55.25 | Skittles__ | Haha, nah it was disconnecting me a lot. |
| 02:55.28 | Skittles__ | And hi. |
| 02:55.40 | Guest14803 | cool thanks |
| 02:55.44 | Skittles__ | np |
| 02:55.54 | Guest14803 | you can change ignore terrain height at anytime with trigger right? |
| 02:55.58 | Guest14803 | its not static on a unit? |
| 02:56.16 | Skittles__ | right |
| 02:56.18 | Skittles__ | it's under |
| 02:56.21 | Skittles__ | change unit state |
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| 03:00.13 | AgentPaper | mk, so anyone here know how to make upgrades that affect only the unit it's researched on? |
| 03:00.57 | AgentPaper | I think I have to use Specialize, but I can't figure out how to make multiple levels of it |
| 03:01.24 | MrOp | check onetwo tut on you tube |
| 03:01.29 | MrOp | i think he long hero tut |
| 03:01.34 | AgentPaper | which one? lol |
| 03:01.41 | MrOp | goes over upgrades |
| 03:01.46 | Technomancer | SKIZOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:02.00 | MrOp | youtube.com/onetwosc |
| 03:02.02 | Technomancer | Help me, Skizot. You're my only hope |
| 03:02.51 | Skittles__ | you may be able to pm the guy who made infested arena |
| 03:03.00 | Skittles__ | oh wait, he only used 1 of each hero, that may of been why. |
| 03:03.30 | MrOp | o sry agent i cant spell or make whole sentences at time lol |
| 03:03.39 | MrOp | his long hero tutorial |
| 03:03.52 | MrOp | he has alot of stuff |
| 03:03.57 | MrOp | so just look though it |
| 03:03.58 | MrOp | :/ |
| 03:05.53 | AgentPaper | which one is it? |
| 03:05.56 | AgentPaper | complete hero? |
| 03:06.01 | MrOp | the hero ones |
| 03:06.04 | MrOp | yea that sound right |
| 03:06.10 | MrOp | i have looked though some of it |
| 03:06.18 | MrOp | but he says what he will do in the 1st part |
| 03:06.23 | MrOp | i hope that helps |
| 03:06.26 | MrOp | ^^ |
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| 03:12.41 | Guest14803 | well this is odd, got the sinking working, passing through terrain, but with ignore terrain on, it constantly sinks, not even telling it to sink yet |
| 03:13.23 | Skittles__ | I think it may have to be a periodic thing. |
| 03:13.34 | Skittles__ | Maybe try doing this: |
| 03:13.51 | Skittles__ | Change unit's height to terrain height -.5 like u did prior |
| 03:14.01 | Skittles__ | and do that over how ever many seconds u wanted. |
| 03:14.07 | Skittles__ | Then do a wait for the same amount of seconds |
| 03:14.32 | Skittles__ | then do Change Unit's height to terrain height -.5 (which would be the same value as before) but do it over 100000000 seconds |
| 03:15.00 | Skittles__ | That may work, Guest14803 |
| 03:15.51 | Guest14803 | ok sec |
| 03:17.04 | Guest14803 | Ok, so basically all I am doing right now is turning on ignore terrain for the unit selected, and setting its height to region of the position of that picked unit. |
| 03:17.12 | Guest14803 | Did do a wait afterwards, still sinking without command |
| 03:17.24 | Skittles__ | uh |
| 03:17.31 | Guest14803 | unit goes to ground level then drops 1 unit each time |
| 03:17.38 | Skittles__ | copy n paste the text? (right click on it and select copy as text) |
| 03:17.49 | Guest14803 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.07 | Guest14803 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:18.14 | Skittles__ | what's the 5.0 for? |
| 03:18.17 | Guest14803 | area |
| 03:18.28 | Guest14803 | size of the circle |
| 03:18.55 | Skittles__ | I would just do height of point (environment) at position of picked unit |
| 03:19.09 | Skittles__ | Not sure how regions work for it. |
| 03:19.10 | Skittles__ | anyway |
| 03:19.14 | Guest14803 | enviroment? |
| 03:19.18 | Skittles__ | yeah |
| 03:19.27 | Skittles__ | when u go to the action it says height of point twice |
| 03:19.34 | Skittles__ | 1 has environment written by it |
| 03:19.49 | Skittles__ | the other one is refering to the actual points height and not the ground |
| 03:19.50 | Guest14803 | oh wow completely missed that |
| 03:20.48 | Skittles__ | are u sure you have the trigger under unit group pick every unit as well? Or is that something else? |
| 03:20.51 | Guest14803 | lol |
| 03:20.54 | Guest14803 | found out why I am sinking |
| 03:20.58 | Skittles__ | oh wait, u just copied the rest of it |
| 03:21.12 | Guest14803 | persistent was still doing Modify Unit -.5 |
| 03:21.23 | Skittles__ | mmhmm |
| 03:21.34 | Guest14803 | It works now thanks |
| 03:21.40 | Skittles__ | kk |
| 03:21.47 | Skittles__ | now on a serious note |
| 03:21.53 | Skittles__ | Do you like diablo 3? |
| 03:21.57 | Guest14803 | no |
| 03:22.00 | Skittles__ | aw |
| 03:22.02 | Guest14803 | I think devs suck |
| 03:22.06 | Skittles__ | haha okay |
| 03:22.17 | Skittles__ | was wondering if i should change the witch doctors mana to mojo instead. |
| 03:22.18 | Guest14803 | they took out what made D2 great |
| 03:22.18 | Skittles__ | lol |
| 03:22.25 | Skittles__ | they did? |
| 03:22.27 | Guest14803 | random lewt |
| 03:22.28 | Skittles__ | Looks about the same to me |
| 03:22.32 | Skittles__ | they have that |
| 03:22.49 | Skittles__ | all the items u craft even, have random stats. |
| 03:22.57 | Guest14803 | bash said they were going to have certain mobs drop certain epics |
| 03:23.02 | Guest14803 | bashionk |
| 03:23.04 | Skittles__ | oh |
| 03:23.14 | Guest14803 | instead of a global table |
| 03:23.17 | Skittles__ | that's not game-breaking imo tho |
| 03:23.18 | Guest14803 | random loot |
| 03:23.33 | Skittles__ | at least all loot is player based now |
| 03:23.38 | Skittles__ | so w/e u see is yours |
| 03:23.53 | Guest14803 | ya true |
| 03:23.57 | Skittles__ | and also there are chests you find along your way and mini bosses |
| 03:24.04 | Skittles__ | I don't think d2 had mini bosses? |
| 03:24.15 | Guest14803 | There was nothing like killing a skeleton and finding a grandfather though |
| 03:24.23 | Skittles__ | lol |
| 03:24.26 | Guest14803 | like you won the superbowl |
| 03:24.36 | Skittles__ | haha, yeah i guess so. |
| 03:24.43 | Skittles__ | I never got past lv 18 without hacking |
| 03:24.44 | Guest14803 | I seriously cried when I found an ethereal hellslayer in cows when I was like 10 |
| 03:24.51 | Guest14803 | years ol |
| 03:25.12 | Skittles__ | tho, I did play it all out with extra speed |
| 03:25.15 | Skittles__ | haha |
| 03:25.15 | Guest14803 | I made my own hacks |
| 03:25.22 | Skittles__ | yeah I played around 10 years old too |
| 03:25.36 | Guest14803 | I could see rare items drop on the map and what kind |
| 03:25.38 | Skittles__ | first pc game I ever played |
| 03:26.03 | Guest14803 | I would blink around and pick up rare orbs |
| 03:26.04 | Skittles__ | Ironically, sc1/runescape was my second, and wc3 was my third. |
| 03:26.12 | Guest14803 | never played runescape |
| 03:26.13 | Skittles__ | And did so without knowing blizzard was the ones who made them |
| 03:26.21 | Skittles__ | it wasn't that great |
| 03:26.23 | Skittles__ | just lots to do |
| 03:26.48 | Guest14803 | My first PC game was wolfenstein |
| 03:26.53 | Guest14803 | actually wait |
| 03:27.03 | Guest14803 | Math wizard |
| 03:27.14 | Skittles__ | lol |
| 03:27.27 | Guest14803 | wow totally forgot about those games |
| 03:27.33 | Skittles__ | I watched my bro play diablo 1 before diablo 2 tho |
| 03:27.49 | Skittles__ | I think a new wolfenstein came out not to long ago? |
| 03:27.54 | Guest14803 | D1 feeling was the best imo |
| 03:27.59 | Guest14803 | ya it blowed |
| 03:28.03 | Skittles__ | I also like the new diablo classes a lot tho |
| 03:28.10 | Guest14803 | new wolf was a disgrace |
| 03:28.12 | Skittles__ | witch doctor = epic |
| 03:28.36 | Guest14803 | tbh |
| 03:28.37 | Skittles__ | basically, I like how they combined classes instead of remaking them. |
| 03:28.39 | Guest14803 | I like the old witch doc concept art thb |
| 03:28.48 | Skittles__ | old concept art? |
| 03:29.03 | Guest14803 | ya |
| 03:29.10 | Guest14803 | hmm I wonder if I can still find it |
| 03:29.12 | Skittles__ | elaborate. :p |
| 03:29.19 | Guest14803 | ever play killer instinct? |
| 03:29.23 | Skittles__ | nope |
| 03:29.26 | Guest14803 | looked like cheif thunder |
| 03:29.47 | Guest14803 | sec |
| 03:30.00 | Skittles__ | chief thunder? http://www.jewfro.org/images/One%20Ring2.gif |
| 03:30.26 | Skittles__ | that's what I got from google. lolz |
| 03:31.05 | Guest14803 | lol nope |
| 03:31.17 | Guest14803 | hold on tryin to find my old D3 fans account |
| 03:31.22 | Skittles__ | k |
| 03:33.22 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 03:33.30 | Skittles__ | wb |
| 03:33.59 | JademusSreg | =D |
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| 03:34.37 | Skittles__ | wb |
| 03:35.20 | Vexal | i think it froze or something |
| 03:35.25 | Vexal | wouldn't let me send messages |
| 03:35.55 | Skittles__ | hmm |
| 03:35.57 | Skittles__ | yeah |
| 03:36.04 | Skittles__ | had that happen to me a few times |
| 03:36.11 | Guest14803 | hah found it holy shit |
| 03:36.13 | Guest14803 | http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/7327/33210649qv2.jpg |
| 03:38.04 | Skittles__ | it's still like that. |
| 03:38.13 | Skittles__ | It just depends on the items they are wearing. |
| 03:38.49 | Skittles__ | hmm |
| 03:39.06 | Skittles__ | I've got like 10 powers for the witch doctor written down to do |
| 03:39.16 | Skittles__ | I wonder If I really should do any more than that. |
| 03:40.10 | Skittles__ | oh right, I was going to do twelve. |
| 03:40.45 | Skittles__ | Sixen you there? |
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| 03:44.09 | Sixen | sup |
| 03:46.25 | Skittles__ | hey |
| 03:46.37 | Skittles__ | Is there a way to do spoiler tags on the forums? |
| 03:46.54 | Skittles__ | so you can collapse a large amount of info. |
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| 03:51.48 | Skittles__ | Sixen |
| 03:51.51 | Skittles__ | =D |
| 03:52.19 | MrOp | only 10 |
| 03:52.22 | MrOp | come on shawn |
| 03:52.28 | MrOp | he need at least 40 |
| 03:52.30 | MrOp | XD |
| 03:52.36 | MrOp | needs* |
| 03:52.51 | Sixen | No spoiler afaik |
| 03:53.00 | Sixen | Check the markup page |
| 03:53.07 | MrOp | what you guys talking about |
| 03:53.15 | Skittles__ | there's a markup page? |
| 03:53.19 | Skittles__ | And what's afaik? Xd |
| 03:53.19 | Sixen | yeah |
| 03:53.24 | Sixen | as far as i know = afaik |
| 03:53.28 | Skittles__ | oh |
| 03:53.38 | Skittles__ | btw |
| 03:53.45 | Skittles__ | Gotta love how it's likea buzzer. |
| 03:53.46 | Skittles__ | lol |
| 03:54.00 | MrOp | what you guys talking about? |
| 03:54.50 | Skittles__ | what the heck is monospace? |
| 03:56.03 | Guest14803 | what kind of music do you guys listent to while modding |
| 03:56.55 | deathnight114 | the kind that i make |
| 03:57.20 | Skittles__ | nope no spoiler tags |
| 03:57.21 | Skittles__ | buzz radio |
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| 04:00.43 | Tordy | O_O |
| 04:01.24 | JademusSreg | I listen to MSI, Poe, Muse, Co&Ca, Voltaire, Silverchair, and Homestuck, mostly. |
| 04:02.08 | Sixen | I listen to rap/hip-hp[ |
| 04:02.09 | AgentPaper | dangit still having trouble with this |
| 04:02.09 | Sixen | hop* |
| 04:02.37 | JademusSreg | Trouble? |
| 04:02.38 | Skittles__ | hmm |
| 04:02.47 | Skittles__ | Made my spell list for witch doctor. =D |
| 04:02.49 | AgentPaper | with individual unit upgrades |
| 04:02.53 | Vexal | i listen to jpop, classic rock, and classical. |
| 04:03.34 | JademusSreg | Behold, beautiful terrible music! http://www.youtube.com/user/msivideo#p/u/0/0GLoHifu6aM |
| 04:04.02 | Guest14803 | that stuff puts you in the zone??? |
| 04:04.41 | Guest14803 | gets me everytime http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQJKD-RmZU8 |
| 04:04.54 | Guest14803 | I feel like Jack Bower in space |
| 04:05.06 | Guest14803 | bauer* |
| 04:05.26 | Tordy | how do you change the effect of mousewheel camera scroll? |
| 04:05.35 | Tordy | i dont want it to change the attack angle |
| 04:05.40 | Tordy | i just want it to change the cam distance |
| 04:06.26 | JademusSreg | Completely different than the previous: http://homestuck.bandcamp.com/track/umbral-ultimatum |
| 04:10.10 | Skittles__ | back |
| 04:10.52 | Vexal | fantastic. |
| 04:11.13 | Abstruse | TASTE THE RAINBOW |
| 04:11.23 | JademusSreg | Reignbow! |
| 04:11.32 | Abstruse | wat |
| 04:11.46 | Abstruse | the only reign i have witnessed is that of the meek |
| 04:11.47 | JademusSreg | Google reignbow. I was surprised by the result. |
| 04:11.47 | Abstruse | :O |
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| 04:12.25 | AgentPaper | man I don't even know how to make a button to use my specialize ability |
| 04:13.15 | JademusSreg | I have some ideas. |
| 04:13.46 | JademusSreg | The simplest would probably be to make the effect add a behavior that the ability needs as a requirement. |
| 04:15.55 | AgentPaper | gorramnit, scew it I'm gunna just do normal tower upgrades |
| 04:16.23 | AgentPaper | more importantly, I'm gunna wait until my family stops watching TV because it's distracting |
| 04:16.59 | AgentPaper | stupid oscars |
| 04:17.02 | AgentPaper | so boring |
| 04:18.15 | Tordy | did anyone implement sha-256 in galaxy |
| 04:18.27 | Tordy | cuz i cant figure out how to convert it from c to galaxy |
| 04:18.47 | Tordy | now before you say it's useless! im not using it for banks |
| 04:19.41 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 04:20.57 | Tordy | nvm |
| 04:21.00 | Tordy | looks like someone did! |
| 04:21.00 | Tordy | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/md5-hash/ |
| 04:21.02 | Tordy | >:) |
| 04:21.21 | Tordy | if Stragus could give me some tips |
| 04:21.21 | Tordy | argh |
| 04:27.39 | Tordy | CHYEA BOY |
| 04:29.32 | Skizot | hello |
| 04:30.38 | Tordy | sup my man Skizot |
| 04:31.30 | Skizot | what up |
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| 04:44.04 | Skittles__ | mm |
| 04:44.18 | Skittles__ | Horrify is done nows. =D |
| 04:44.37 | Skittles__ | You have horrify and confusion as spells! Who wants to playz! |
| 04:44.37 | Skittles__ | lol |
| 04:45.12 | JademusSreg | Plays what? |
| 04:45.26 | Skittles__ | my hero siege of course! |
| 04:45.38 | Sixen | zzzzzz |
| 04:45.41 | Skittles__ | you, a lonely prisoner zealot, versus 10000000000000000000000000000000 zerglings! |
| 04:45.50 | Skittles__ | Using the power of horrify and confusion! |
| 04:45.52 | Skittles__ | lol |
| 04:46.07 | Skittles__ | Horrify => Scares enemies away |
| 04:46.21 | Skittles__ | Confusion => Take over a few nearby units temporarily. |
| 04:46.23 | JademusSreg | Question: How does a zealot accomplish this? |
| 04:46.32 | Skittles__ | Answer: He doesn't. |
| 04:46.59 | Skittles__ | but surprisingly, Locust Swarm + Horrify is a good combo mix. |
| 04:47.55 | JademusSreg | Does the zealot cast Horrify? |
| 04:48.01 | JademusSreg | Or someone else? |
| 04:48.05 | JademusSreg | A ghost perhaps? |
| 04:48.09 | Skittles__ | hmm |
| 04:48.11 | Skittles__ | A dead zealot! |
| 04:48.14 | JademusSreg | OoooOOooooOOOo |
| 04:48.20 | Skittles__ | lol that really is the sfx. |
| 04:48.52 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 04:49.09 | JademusSreg | Set the opacity to ~0.5. |
| 04:49.14 | JademusSreg | So it will look like a ghost. |
| 05:14.19 | Tordy | what other commands are there besides /dance |
| 05:18.22 | JademusSreg | Dunno. cheer maybe |
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| 05:25.03 | JademusSreg | Hi Jman. |
| 05:25.09 | JManV | sup jad |
| 05:25.23 | JademusSreg | Photoshopping. |
| 05:25.46 | MrOp | jman do you know the password for the vent server |
| 05:25.54 | JManV | i don't |
| 05:25.57 | MrOp | :/ |
| 05:26.03 | JManV | i was gonna try and find someone to help me with ventrilo |
| 05:26.10 | MrOp | help how |
| 05:26.12 | JManV | i want to set up a private channel for map night |
| 05:26.25 | MrOp | well i guess we are locked out for no reason |
| 05:26.26 | MrOp | :/ |
| 05:26.31 | MrOp | as of today |
| 05:26.35 | JManV | oh |
| 05:26.36 | MrOp | working last night |
| 05:26.36 | JManV | weird |
| 05:26.39 | MrOp | yea |
| 05:26.51 | JManV | i didn't know there was a server password |
| 05:26.55 | JManV | that' |
| 05:26.57 | MrOp | therer wasnt |
| 05:27.03 | MrOp | until today |
| 05:27.04 | JManV | who maintains that? |
| 05:27.06 | JManV | any idea? |
| 05:27.07 | MrOp | noidea |
| 05:27.21 | JManV | prolly have to ask six |
| 05:27.30 | JManV | that's where i was gonna start with my inquiry |
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| 05:28.33 | JManV | very weird |
| 05:28.33 | JademusSreg | I don't use vent. |
| 05:28.44 | JManV | yeah, yesterday was the first and only time i connected to ventrilo |
| 05:29.14 | JManV | i asked everyone at last weeks map night if they wanted skype or vent for next week |
| 05:29.25 | JManV | they unanimously voted for vent |
| 05:30.23 | JManV | still haven't figured out how to stream my desktop audio tho :( |
| 05:30.56 | JManV | besides a loopback cable, which would make it so i can't hear it |
| 05:32.11 | JademusSreg | So other people were speaking on vent during your recording? |
| 05:32.43 | JManV | no |
| 05:32.49 | JManV | last week was set up in a hurry |
| 05:32.52 | JManV | so it was just me |
| 05:33.03 | Skittles__ | mmhmm |
| 05:33.23 | JManV | i'm sorry skittles! :P |
| 05:33.33 | Skittles__ | Totally ditched. |
| 05:33.34 | JManV | i didn't think it would fill up /that fast/ |
| 05:33.47 | JManV | anyways, we're gonna set up another channel just for map night |
| 05:33.55 | Skittles__ | k |
| 05:34.12 | Skittles__ | setting up a channel is just, type the name and its automatically created right? |
| 05:34.16 | JManV | so if i need more players for a game, i'll just invite anyone idle in that chan |
| 05:34.21 | JManV | yeah |
| 05:34.28 | Skittles__ | i c |
| 05:34.37 | JManV | and they can play whatever while they're waiting |
| 05:34.47 | JManV | or if there's a lot, maybe we can do a second session |
| 05:34.58 | JManV | and you can always hang in sc2mapster too |
| 05:35.04 | Skittles__ | I kinda felt like a celebrity that day. Everybody seemed to know me a bit cause of the zergling wall climb vid. lol |
| 05:35.10 | JManV | anyways, might want to be there 5-10 minutes ahead of time |
| 05:35.18 | Skittles__ | mk |
| 05:35.25 | Skittles__ | It's only on friday's right? |
| 05:35.34 | JManV | for now |
| 05:35.38 | Skittles__ | k |
| 05:35.41 | JManV | i wouldn't mind doing a second night |
| 05:35.52 | JManV | but it might be hard to have a set night... at least for me |
| 05:36.01 | JManV | friday's my best night to almost always be free |
| 05:36.19 | JManV | i'm kind of streaming addicted tho... it's fun :P |
| 05:36.37 | JManV | i kinda want to just video review some maps or something |
| 05:37.14 | JManV | i kinda want to review vexals td. i've never played it, but there's kind of a lot of controversy around it latey |
| 05:37.39 | JManV | i doubt it got on the first page by accident |
| 05:38.22 | JademusSreg | Finished my image. |
| 05:38.33 | JManV | what'd you make? |
| 05:39.00 | JademusSreg | One moment. |
| 05:39.26 | Skittles__ | it's been popular off and on, depending if he was updating it or not since release of sc2. |
| 05:39.38 | Skittles__ | I don't think it made it past page 2 before patch 1.2 tho |
| 05:40.08 | Skittles__ | But yeah, custom map reviews + maybe like talking to the creator might be a cool show on youtube |
| 05:40.24 | JManV | anyways, i think a lot of people have judged it without playing it |
| 05:40.34 | JManV | because it's a TD |
| 05:40.41 | Skittles__ | mhmm |
| 05:41.13 | JManV | i'm all about helping mappers |
| 05:41.21 | JManV | and exposure is what we need right now |
| 05:42.25 | JManV | although, hopefully the new patch will help a lot |
| 05:43.04 | JManV | still, i think a lot of people don't try out maps because they don't know what's going on, and they get killed by people who do |
| 05:43.18 | JManV | and they don't really get a chance to learn a game in a casual environment |
| 05:43.25 | JManV | which is what the heart of map night is, imo |
| 05:47.13 | JManV | it also might be interesting to stream tutorials |
| 05:47.18 | JManV | or interactive learning sessions |
| 05:48.04 | Tordy | hi JManV |
| 05:48.10 | JManV | sup tordy |
| 05:48.17 | Tordy | we all know banks are insecure |
| 05:48.30 | JManV | we definitely do |
| 05:48.50 | Tordy | is this admin functionality secure? |
| 05:48.55 | Tordy | put a password in your bank |
| 05:49.33 | JManV | i know someone hacked phantom mode's admin functionality before |
| 05:49.34 | Tordy | the map itself generates a sha-256 hash from the password and then compares it to another hash |
| 05:49.45 | Tordy | that's stored int he map |
| 05:49.52 | Tordy | if they're equal, the player has admin functionality |
| 05:49.55 | JManV | the map itself isn't secure |
| 05:50.01 | Tordy | yea i know it isnt |
| 05:50.02 | JManV | someone can just read/run your map |
| 05:50.09 | Tordy | but even if someone hacks into the map |
| 05:50.19 | Tordy | all they see is the hash |
| 05:50.23 | Tordy | they dont know the password |
| 05:50.28 | JManV | which they put in their bank |
| 05:50.38 | Tordy | put how do they knwo the password? |
| 05:50.44 | JManV | oh, the password has to be in the bank |
| 05:50.48 | Tordy | yea |
| 05:50.50 | Tordy | that's what im doin |
| 05:50.52 | JManV | interesting |
| 05:50.59 | JademusSreg | http://i.imgur.com/xUw9O.jpg |
| 05:51.03 | Tordy | i think this is a secure way of implementing admin functionality |
| 05:51.07 | JManV | can't really reverse a hash |
| 05:51.14 | Tordy | exactly |
| 05:51.30 | JademusSreg | Just a little shop contest on Kotaku, nothing fancy. |
| 05:51.32 | JManV | i like the idea |
| 05:51.34 | Tordy | unless someone figures out how to read other people's banks while in-game |
| 05:51.54 | JManV | packet sniffing maybe |
| 05:52.34 | JManV | you'd think the client would run most of the bank code tho |
| 05:52.44 | JManV | but it might transmit |
| 05:53.10 | JManV | if the other players get transmitted the banks at all, you could just RAM sniff |
| 05:53.19 | JManV | although that might have been what they fixed |
| 05:53.43 | JManV | cool jad |
| 05:54.09 | JManV | still, it seems harder to crack than normal |
| 05:54.37 | JManV | plus, when dude hacked phantom mode, they found the dude, sent in replays and mass reported |
| 05:54.59 | JManV | i don't know what happened after that, but i didn't hear of the problem again |
| 05:55.38 | JManV | nobody wants to play with someone like that |
| 05:55.50 | JManV | because kicking someone is pretty much absolute power |
| 05:56.42 | JManV | i'd give it a shot, and if someone does manage to hack it, do that |
| 05:56.54 | JManV | you need to keep communications with your players tho |
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| 05:57.56 | JademusSreg | Argh. Weird bugs are preventing me from posting the image there. Infuriating. |
| 05:58.05 | JManV | man, there are four stages to combat initiation. no wonder its laggy |
| 06:00.30 | Tordy | should post in the forums about it |
| 06:00.48 | JademusSreg | It's a problem at Kotaku and/or Gawker. |
| 06:01.01 | Tordy | just to make sure it's impossible (at the moment) to get info on values in banks loaded |
| 06:01.33 | Tordy | how did the phantom mode guy implement admins? |
| 06:01.36 | JademusSreg | And since all the Gawker media sites now look like sleek app ass, there's no way for me to communicate. Seems it's an internal error at the server. |
| 06:01.49 | Tordy | does he just read a single value in the bank? |
| 06:02.20 | JManV | i'm not sure. he didn't expose that information - quite on purpose |
| 06:03.10 | JManV | i agree that you should post on the forums |
| 06:03.31 | JManV | i'm curious if bank data gets transmitted over the network or if some of it can be handled client side |
| 06:03.45 | JManV | like a simple compare like that |
| 06:06.09 | JManV | six still hasn't news'd the map night vids :( |
| 06:06.15 | JManV | i guess the ptr is a bigger deal tho |
| 06:09.33 | Skittles__ | not really |
| 06:09.52 | Skittles__ | just bitch n moan until he does it. |
| 06:09.58 | JManV | that's like the hugest news in months |
| 06:09.58 | Skittles__ | I'll buzz him for you. |
| 06:10.00 | Skittles__ | Sixen |
| 06:10.02 | Skittles__ | there u go, hf. |
| 06:10.04 | JManV | no don't worry about it |
| 06:10.49 | JManV | really the patch notes should have gone on the main page even |
| 06:10.53 | JManV | that's big |
| 06:11.02 | Sixen | Ya? |
| 06:12.07 | JademusSreg | Big patch. |
| 06:12.20 | JademusSreg | Also, unrelated, RAAAAAGE. |
| 06:13.35 | Skittles__ | Jmanv wanted to ask you something. <3 |
| 06:13.48 | JManV | skittles was buzzing you on my behalf because i was mentioning the map night vids |
| 06:13.49 | JademusSreg | I was interested in making an entry to a shop contest, but the unrelenting server errors have incensed me. |
| 06:14.14 | Skittles__ | No I wasn't? Buzzing is just my hobby you know! :p |
| 06:14.37 | Skittles__ | shop contest? |
| 06:14.57 | JademusSreg | Photoshop contest on Kotaku. |
| 06:15.48 | Skittles__ | oh |
| 06:16.23 | Tordy | when's the patch comin |
| 06:16.25 | Tordy | tuesday? |
| 06:16.56 | JManV | when it comes i'm sure |
| 06:17.02 | JademusSreg | Soon! =D |
| 06:19.47 | JManV | this can't possibly work... |
| 06:20.14 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 06:20.18 | JManV | sweet |
| 06:20.25 | JManV | i just made a fairly large change |
| 06:20.48 | JManV | i'm not sure why it bugged out when it did tho... |
| 06:22.24 | JManV | awesome |
| 06:22.35 | JManV | i'm glad it didn't work tho. that would have had me worried |
| 06:23.29 | Tordy | ma boyyyyyy JManV |
| 06:23.34 | Tordy | avogatro!!!!! |
| 06:24.42 | JManV | yer a crazy person tordy |
| 06:25.12 | Tordy | no |
| 06:25.15 | Tordy | this guy is a crazy person: |
| 06:25.16 | Tordy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSoemFnNkQY |
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| 06:26.07 | AgentPaper | hm, how do you increase a unit's armor with triggers? |
| 06:26.20 | AgentPaper | do I have to use a behavior? |
| 06:26.51 | JManV | i would |
| 06:27.10 | JManV | you might be able to do it otherwise, but i usually think behavior first |
| 06:27.46 | AgentPaper | it'd be very nice if I could get it to increase the base armor, instead of just +X armor |
| 06:27.46 | JManV | i don't see armor in the unit properties |
| 06:27.53 | AgentPaper | oh, I should use upgrades |
| 06:28.06 | JademusSreg | There are two kinds of armor. |
| 06:28.09 | JademusSreg | Life and Shield. |
| 06:28.13 | JManV | upgrades are global |
| 06:28.20 | AgentPaper | yeah I'm aware of that much, heh |
| 06:28.24 | AgentPaper | and it being global is fine |
| 06:28.30 | JManV | ok |
| 06:28.44 | AgentPaper | I just want runner armor to go up as the levels go up |
| 06:29.18 | JManV | i think people are used to level up bonuses showing up as +'s |
| 06:29.32 | AgentPaper | not unit levels, game levels |
| 06:29.34 | AgentPaper | it's a TD |
| 06:29.42 | JManV | oh |
| 06:29.43 | JManV | ok |
| 06:29.44 | AgentPaper | I've already got the spawn trigger setting the HP to scale with level |
| 06:29.50 | JManV | do what feels right |
| 06:29.52 | Guest14803 | Is there a way to remove a unit from the game through effects? |
| 06:29.53 | AgentPaper | all units have 10 HP base, and I just increase it from there |
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| 06:30.13 | Guest14803 | not like kill but removing it |
| 06:30.39 | JademusSreg | I doubt it. |
| 06:31.14 | JademusSreg | But there is an easy way using an effect and a trigger. |
| 06:31.38 | Guest14803 | ya? |
| 06:31.40 | JademusSreg | Have a trigger fire on the effect event, and remove the unit. |
| 06:32.27 | Guest14803 | which event is that?? |
| 06:32.35 | Guest14803 | not under environment |
| 06:32.44 | AgentPaper | hmm, maybe I should use veterancy... |
| 06:32.45 | JademusSreg | Probably in Unit, mate. |
| 06:33.21 | Guest14803 | I dont think you can trigger from effects |
| 06:34.49 | JManV | ha! |
| 06:35.01 | JademusSreg | Hm. I thought you could. |
| 06:35.16 | JManV | i made my player allied with the enemy |
| 06:35.21 | JManV | that's why it doesn't work :P |
| 06:35.35 | JademusSreg | Does the effect deal damage, Guest? |
| 06:36.11 | Guest14803 | na |
| 06:36.15 | Guest14803 | kill |
| 06:36.18 | Guest14803 | but |
| 06:36.19 | Guest14803 | basically |
| 06:37.17 | JademusSreg | Damn. Because I knew a shortcut there. If you used a damage class effect, you could detect which effect was used, and do if (EventUnitDamageEffect() == "YourDamageEffectID") |
| 06:37.18 | Guest14803 | I have 2 portals, 1 red/1 blue, and do a map wide search each time I make one, if red it searches for another red and kills it. But, it still counts as a kill even though no kill credit. |
| 06:37.26 | AgentPaper | ok so if I were to make some ability or whatever that I can set to level X to give the unit an armor of X, what would that be? |
| 06:37.31 | AgentPaper | a buff? an ability? |
| 06:37.43 | AgentPaper | attribute? |
| 06:37.52 | Guest14803 | remove units is what I do for illusions to stop kill credit |
| 06:38.05 | JademusSreg | Sounds like an Attribute, Agent. |
| 06:38.07 | Guest14803 | I have a damage response that they can't die and remove them when they reach low hp |
| 06:38.18 | Guest14803 | so theres no kill credit |
| 06:38.45 | Guest14803 | just would be easier if you could remove units in damage effects |
| 06:38.46 | JademusSreg | Alright. So make it a damage effect. Deal 1 damage. |
| 06:38.50 | JademusSreg | Or whatever. |
| 06:38.53 | JademusSreg | Detect it. |
| 06:38.57 | JademusSreg | Remove the unit. |
| 06:38.58 | JademusSreg | Easy. |
| 06:39.27 | Guest14803 | hmm |
| 06:40.13 | JademusSreg | If you can, deal less than 1 damage, like 0.1 or 0.5 or something. |
| 06:40.25 | JademusSreg | So it reduces the likelihood of accidentally killing the unit. |
| 06:40.53 | AgentPaper | what's the action to change a unit's attributes? |
| 06:40.55 | Guest14803 | could do modify unit |
| 06:40.57 | Guest14803 | instead |
| 06:41.28 | JademusSreg | Action? |
| 06:41.31 | Guest14803 | behaviors |
| 06:41.36 | Guest14803 | attributes |
| 06:41.36 | Dekar | catalog set value |
| 06:41.37 | JademusSreg | Trigger action? Behaviors. |
| 06:41.42 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 06:41.51 | Dekar | D: |
| 06:58.23 | Guest14803 | why does it change my name to guest |
| 07:02.00 | Skittles__ | going to bed. Night. |
| 07:02.05 | Skittles__ | It hates u |
| 07:04.12 | JademusSreg | Your name is registered, probably. |
| 07:04.21 | JademusSreg | Use /nick to set you name. |
| 07:04.35 | MrOp | hay what does (!=) mean |
| 07:04.47 | JademusSreg | Use /ns identify password to sign on to nickserve. |
| 07:04.50 | JademusSreg | *serv |
| 07:04.57 | JademusSreg | Mrop, it mweans Not Equal |
| 07:04.58 | MrOp | jade you know |
| 07:05.01 | MrOp | o |
| 07:05.03 | MrOp | thxs |
| 07:07.48 | JademusSreg | http://i.imgur.com/PVDpV.jpg |
| 07:09.38 | MrOp | oO |
| 07:09.43 | MrOp | i dont get it |
| 07:09.44 | MrOp | XD |
| 07:10.08 | JademusSreg | If you've played or seen someone play Kingdom Hearts before, it would be apparent. |
| 07:10.30 | JademusSreg | Since Disney had a hand in the game, it can't be too violent. |
| 07:10.44 | JademusSreg | So instead of swords, the protagonists use Keyblades. |
| 07:10.53 | JademusSreg | Giant keys held like swords. |
| 07:11.00 | MrOp | o right |
| 07:22.27 | AgentPaper | er how do I change attributes with triggers? |
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| 07:22.41 | AgentPaper | something to do with behaviors but I don't see "modify behavior level" or anything like that |
| 07:23.01 | Shawn|Rawr | do what? |
| 07:23.05 | MrOp | hay shawn |
| 07:23.06 | MrOp | XD |
| 07:23.17 | MrOp | actor message? |
| 07:23.32 | Shawn|Rawr | fer wut? |
| 07:23.35 | AgentPaper | I gave my units an attribute called Armor Level |
| 07:23.43 | AgentPaper | I want to increase it when I make them |
| 07:23.51 | AgentPaper | set it to whatever level it is and such |
| 07:24.56 | Shawn|Rawr | Is this a hero unit thing? |
| 07:25.22 | AgentPaper | normal unit |
| 07:26.12 | MrOp | onetwos tut was not helpful? |
| 07:27.41 | AgentPaper | not in changing the unit's attributes with triggers |
| 07:28.09 | Shawn|Rawr | Hmm.. might be a catalog thing.. I don't know catalogs.. :/ |
| 07:29.19 | Shawn|Rawr | afaik, catalogs is how you access data fields via triggers.. its worth looking into |
| 07:30.39 | Guest14803 | beaviors change attributes |
| 07:31.06 | Shawn|Rawr | Oh wait.. ya what i said doesnt make sense |
| 07:31.23 | Shawn|Rawr | I'd have to stare at the hero tut again |
| 07:31.34 | AgentPaper | so, I have to make a hundered different behaviors to add different amounts of attributes? |
| 07:31.58 | Shawn|Rawr | Just look at how attributes are used in heroes |
| 07:32.13 | Shawn|Rawr | Should be similar |
| 07:32.55 | Shawn|Rawr | I'm not an expert in that area |
| 07:32.57 | AgentPaper | I know how to use attributes |
| 07:33.08 | AgentPaper | I just don't know how to modify them with triggers |
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| 07:34.31 | Demalii | hi |
| 07:35.50 | JademusSreg | Hi. |
| 07:36.12 | Guest14803 | no basically |
| 07:36.20 | Guest14803 | sec |
| 07:37.40 | Guest14803 | nvm |
| 07:38.54 | Tordy | ow |
| 07:48.13 | AgentPaper | wait, are player minerals and such real or integer values? |
| 07:48.28 | AgentPaper | I thought they were truncated real values |
| 07:54.14 | MrOp | jade |
| 07:54.30 | Dekar | if you want to increase a hero attribute, you just make a behaviour that adds +1 and make it stackable |
| 07:54.45 | Dekar | then add it as much as you want with a trigger |
| 07:55.49 | AgentPaper | yeah I think I figured that out |
| 07:56.19 | AgentPaper | does convert to integer round or truncate? |
| 07:56.30 | Dekar | no idea |
| 07:59.47 | AgentPaper | actually with how I set my code it does't matter, so meh =P |
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| 08:35.27 | QueenGambit | hi everyone |
| 08:38.25 | MrOp | hi XD |
| 08:39.42 | JademusSreg | Hihi. |
| 08:40.06 | MrOp | so jade any ideas |
| 08:43.30 | Dekar | hi |
| 08:44.02 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 08:44.24 | JademusSreg | I'm photoshopping another image, so I'm a bit busy. |
| 08:44.42 | JademusSreg | Basically, put this in a custom script action |
| 08:44.45 | JademusSreg | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:44.46 | DonKalypso | KALYPSO MAD! |
| 08:44.49 | DonKalypso | KALYPSO SMASH! |
| 08:44.58 | JademusSreg | I mean VisExploreArea(1,RegionEntireMap(),false,false) |
| 08:47.41 | AgentPaper | why would you need custom script for that? |
| 08:48.25 | QueenGambit | random question - anyone played Donkey Kong Country 2? |
| 08:48.35 | AgentPaper | I think I did |
| 08:48.45 | AgentPaper | I know I played one or two of them |
| 08:49.27 | QueenGambit | oh joy. Yah i just found a site to download the game music. My mapping work efforts has now gotten a +1 boost! |
| 08:49.51 | AgentPaper | you making a sc2 dkcountry? |
| 08:49.55 | QueenGambit | now i just want to create Donkey kongcountry map |
| 08:49.59 | QueenGambit | no im not lol |
| 08:50.02 | AgentPaper | aw |
| 08:50.12 | AgentPaper | that would be epic |
| 08:50.17 | QueenGambit | definitely |
| 08:50.45 | QueenGambit | hey agent, do u ever read sc2mapster.com forums? |
| 08:50.52 | AgentPaper | not really |
| 08:51.04 | AgentPaper | I'm just working on my TD |
| 08:51.20 | AgentPaper | it's coming along fairly well I think |
| 08:51.47 | AgentPaper | I made a nice system that makes it really easy to add in new runners, so now I just need to fill that out a bit |
| 08:51.58 | AgentPaper | it's literally like 1 minute per each new mob |
| 08:51.59 | QueenGambit | That is good. I hope to play it soon and host it during our weekly map night |
| 08:52.08 | AgentPaper | more if you need to customize the model but that's it |
| 08:52.21 | QueenGambit | Copynpaste ftw |
| 08:52.41 | AgentPaper | nah not that |
| 08:53.07 | AgentPaper | I just need to set it's HP to 10, speed to 3, and then give it a couple abilities like armored or flying or large or whatever |
| 08:53.34 | QueenGambit | I am interested in seeing unique TD gameplays; ones where gaining minerals to build towers are unconventional |
| 08:53.59 | AgentPaper | well, I have it so that minerals are shared globally at least |
| 08:54.13 | AgentPaper | 14 players, and the outer players get more mobs than they can possibly handle alone, so you have to work as a team |
| 08:54.20 | QueenGambit | I worked a bit on a TD on sc1 where a mob would move south and u must block their path. The longer they stay in the field, the more minerals you get. |
| 08:54.35 | QueenGambit | the minerals is used to buy towers |
| 08:54.49 | QueenGambit | i like globally shared minerals =D |
| 08:54.52 | AgentPaper | eh, that mostly just sounds gimmicky |
| 08:54.55 | QueenGambit | some ppl dont |
| 08:55.15 | AgentPaper | those are the ones who like to pat themselves on the back for doing so well |
| 08:55.29 | AgentPaper | imo any game without shared minerals isn't really a team game |
| 08:55.32 | AgentPaper | any TD rather |
| 08:55.59 | QueenGambit | yes and no. Lots of Individual TDs are just as fun |
| 08:56.17 | AgentPaper | I didn't say they couldn't be fun, lol |
| 08:56.22 | AgentPaper | just not a team game ;) |
| 08:57.04 | QueenGambit | i also love PVP TDs where u either spend money on def or send mobs to enemy players |
| 08:57.34 | AgentPaper | ah yeah, I might try my hand at making a version with that in mind, could be fun |
| 08:57.48 | AgentPaper | I think I might even be able to use the same map, with another mode |
| 08:58.05 | AgentPaper | but anyways I have to get back to making new towers |
| 08:58.12 | AgentPaper | that's the really annoying part of it all |
| 08:58.20 | QueenGambit | okay good luck |
| 08:58.31 | QueenGambit | here take this: |
| 08:58.47 | QueenGambit | gives 20 potions |
| 08:59.07 | QueenGambit | Would you like to save game? Yes No |
| 08:59.10 | AgentPaper | sells 20 potions for 2 silver 36 copper. |
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| 08:59.39 | AgentPaper | buys 6 barrels of rum for 2 silver 18 copper. |
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| 09:17.04 | Tobin | Looking for some feedback on my terrain here... http://img141.imageshack.us/f/85838887.png/ its a TD map. Anyone? |
| 09:23.41 | MrOp | does anyone know a good power down sound FX |
| 09:31.39 | AgentPaper | I need a good sound to play when my wave starts, after the countdown |
| 09:33.46 | AgentPaper | anyone know what green TD uses? |
| 09:38.10 | JademusSreg | http://i.imgur.com/qeL3v.jpg |
| 09:38.23 | JademusSreg | Now that I've finished my last photoshop for the night, time to sleep. |
| 09:38.30 | MrOp | :) |
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| 10:05.54 | Helral | meow |
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| 10:14.16 | MrOp | hi |
| 10:14.20 | Helral|Work | meow |
| 10:14.36 | MrOp | ruff |
| 10:14.37 | MrOp | XD |
| 10:14.46 | MrOp | bark |
| 10:15.48 | Abstruse | heya |
| 10:16.51 | Helral|Work | *hiss* |
| 10:17.24 | Abstruse | does smoking catnip make it more effective? |
| 10:17.33 | Helral|Work | dunno ;p |
| 10:17.43 | Helral|Work | I stay the hell away from catnip ;p |
| 10:31.37 | AgentPaper | ok, so I've got some towers upgrading, but the models don't change right |
| 10:32.19 | AgentPaper | according to the advanced TD tutorial, I have to do some stuff with events, but when I did it the way he did it just made it so there's 2 of the same model as the first upgrade, and only one of them rotates |
| 10:32.22 | AgentPaper | both animate though |
| 10:33.05 | AgentPaper | anyone got an idea what might be causing this? |
| 10:35.08 | Helral|Work | check the event that creates the actor. |
| 10:35.28 | Helral|Work | it might be set to both units instead of just the one you want it to work on. |
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| 10:50.23 | MrOp | helral |
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| 11:03.10 | AgentPaper | Helral|Work: Sorry, was busy sorting out a different bug |
| 11:03.15 | AgentPaper | what exactly do you mean? |
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| 11:05.46 | Dekar | hello teh Helral|Work |
| 11:05.55 | AgentPaper | I made the events exactly how onetwo showed it |
| 11:10.08 | AgentPaper | actor event: AbilMorph.*.Finish |
| 11:10.33 | AgentPaper | =>MorphToGaussCannon3 |
| 11:10.38 | AgentPaper | ==Destroy |
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| 11:12.51 | AgentPaper | that's on the second upgrade, then the third has the same but with destroy instead of create |
| 11:22.20 | Helral|Work | and the create actor? |
| 11:22.30 | Helral|Work | create actor event* |
| 11:22.47 | Clord | hehe it is cruel |
| 11:22.52 | Clord | 1.3.0 PTR |
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| 11:22.56 | Helral|Work | hmmm? |
| 11:22.57 | Clord | USA got first being USA based company |
| 11:23.02 | Clord | SEA got it second |
| 11:23.06 | Clord | being in good time zone |
| 11:23.07 | Clord | XD |
| 11:23.21 | Clord | we europeans get treat third |
| 11:23.24 | Clord | treated |
| 11:23.48 | AgentPaper | hm |
| 11:24.05 | AgentPaper | well there's a UnitBirth -> create event |
| 11:26.05 | Helral|Work | also for the second morph? |
| 11:26.12 | Helral|Work | or first morph even ;p |
| 11:26.50 | AgentPaper | what do you mean? |
| 11:27.05 | AgentPaper | second morph? |
| 11:27.25 | Helral|Work | AbilMorph.*.Finish =>MorphToGaussCannon2 ==Create |
| 11:27.33 | Helral|Work | something like that. or isn't that needed? |
| 11:29.07 | MrOp | how would i remove trigger created actor/doodads |
| 11:29.13 | MrOp | with a trigger |
| 11:29.18 | MrOp | anyone |
| 11:31.27 | Clord | my solution was simple |
| 11:31.36 | Clord | when something gets destroyed what would leave stand |
| 11:31.41 | Clord | I just changed destroy model |
| 11:31.46 | Clord | to something more blowing up ;) |
| 11:32.04 | Clord | and death time from -1 to 0 |
| 11:32.19 | MrOp | i am creating electrical arcs at a region |
| 11:32.25 | MrOp | with a trigger |
| 11:32.35 | MrOp | how do i get rid of them |
| 11:34.02 | Helral|Work | store the actor, and destroy it? |
| 11:34.34 | MrOp | how do i do that |
| 11:35.44 | AgentPaper | Helral|Work: That's what I have |
| 11:35.59 | MrOp | idk what you are saying or how to do it |
| 11:36.29 | AgentPaper | make a variable, store the thing you created in that variable, then destroy it later |
| 11:36.48 | MrOp | hwo do i destroy iy |
| 11:36.49 | MrOp | it |
| 11:36.56 | AgentPaper | with an action XD |
| 11:36.56 | Helral|Work | destroy actor (Actor) |
| 11:37.49 | AgentPaper | so helral, any ideas? Or should I upload the map for perusal? |
| 11:38.12 | Helral|Work | ow it's called Kill Model instead of Destroy actor. also you can use Remove Doodads in Region if that will work for ya. |
| 11:38.19 | Helral|Work | AgentPaper: hmmm |
| 11:38.39 | Helral|Work | AgentPaper: you set 1 actor to rotate and not the other, but both rotate. right? |
| 11:38.55 | AgentPaper | I didn't set them to do anything |
| 11:39.26 | AgentPaper | the first unit is a tower, which works fine. Then I use an upgrade copied from morph to greater spire to morph it into a different tower, which also works fine |
| 11:39.26 | Helral|Work | hmmm? you said something about only 1 of them rotates. |
| 11:39.44 | Helral|Work | I might have misread your problem ;p |
| 11:39.45 | AgentPaper | the problem comes in that for whatever reason, after the moroh there's 2 models and only one rotates, yeah |
| 11:40.07 | Helral|Work | is there a destroy for the first actor? |
| 11:40.12 | AgentPaper | yeah |
| 11:40.27 | Helral|Work | is it limited to the correct ability? |
| 11:40.45 | AgentPaper | event, when abilmorph: upgradetolevel2 yada finished, destroy |
| 11:41.01 | AgentPaper | it's the right ability as far as I can tell |
| 11:41.29 | Helral|Work | it would be the same as the create actor event on the other actor, except for the action itself. |
| 11:41.40 | AgentPaper | yep |
| 11:41.48 | Helral|Work | hmmmm |
| 11:41.58 | AgentPaper | do I have to specify anything in the destroy event? |
| 11:42.10 | AgentPaper | I checked the options but none looked like anything promising |
| 11:42.55 | Helral|Work | don't think you need to set anything in the destroy action. |
| 11:43.24 | Helral|Work | another thing is check the create actions. which acto events have a create action and perhaps one of those is set wrong. |
| 11:44.05 | Helral|Work | I once had every unit having the model of a zealot as well cause I unlinked the model from the zealot unit. |
| 11:44.49 | AgentPaper | on unit construction, birth, and revival, it creates |
| 11:45.16 | Helral|Work | and it is linked correctly to an unit? |
| 11:45.25 | AgentPaper | the actor? |
| 11:45.30 | Helral|Work | aye |
| 11:45.37 | AgentPaper | seems to be |
| 11:45.58 | Helral|Work | hmmm |
| 11:46.11 | Helral|Work | curious problem. |
| 11:47.02 | AgentPaper | I have the destroy event on the first tower, and the create one on the second, right? |
| 11:47.28 | AgentPaper | seems like this is what would happen if I got those backwards, but I don't think I do |
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| 11:49.06 | AgentPaper | I guess I can't just send you the map since you're at work? |
| 11:49.46 | Helral|HomePC | you can try to send it to this one |
| 11:50.00 | AgentPaper | lol |
| 11:50.08 | Helral|HomePC | or just add it to a pm on sc2mapster, and I'll reply when I have had time to look at it. |
| 11:51.26 | AgentPaper | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/14248692/Some%20TD.SC2Map |
| 11:51.46 | AgentPaper | that should work fine |
| 11:52.48 | MrOp | night eveyrone |
| 11:53.59 | Helral|Work | that also works ;p |
| 11:55.06 | AgentPaper | I'm also trying to figure out why my level 2 tower can't upgrade to level 3 |
| 11:55.18 | AgentPaper | the icon doesn't show up |
| 11:55.29 | AgentPaper | I think I did everything I did with the first, but I probably forgot something |
| 11:55.49 | AgentPaper | it's on the command card, the unit has the ability, there's no requirements, etc. |
| 11:56.27 | AgentPaper | I don't know if this is related or not |
| 11:56.46 | AgentPaper | doesn't seem like it would be though |
| 11:59.21 | Helral|Work | I disabled the morph actor creation and it works correctly now.... hmmmm |
| 11:59.41 | AgentPaper | really? huh |
| 12:00.16 | Helral|Work | you didn't set the ability command for the button. |
| 12:00.22 | Helral|Work | that's why it doesn't show up. |
| 12:01.55 | AgentPaper | yeah I just figured that out lol |
| 12:02.14 | AgentPaper | I forgot to duplicate the button with the ability |
| 12:02.44 | AgentPaper | thanks for the help! |
| 12:02.46 | Helral|Work | np |
| 12:03.08 | Helral|Work | I've got a remote connection to my home pc ;p |
| 12:03.28 | AgentPaper | I think I'm gunna go play green TD for..."inspiration" now =p |
| 12:03.37 | Helral|Work | hehehe |
| 12:03.55 | AgentPaper | I have no idea how that thing got featured |
| 12:04.50 | AgentPaper | it's even more of an abomination than the wc3 version |
| 12:06.03 | AgentPaper | wait, it's still not working |
| 12:06.03 | AgentPaper | level 3 that is |
| 12:07.31 | AgentPaper | you said I forgot to add the button somewhere? |
| 12:07.50 | Helral|Work | you forgot to set the ability command, at the button. |
| 12:07.58 | Helral|Work | you set the ability, but not it's command |
| 12:08.10 | AgentPaper | ah, thought that was automatic |
| 12:08.13 | AgentPaper | one sec... |
| 12:08.15 | Helral|Work | at the level 2 unit command card. |
| 12:08.35 | AgentPaper | yeah |
| 12:10.08 | AgentPaper | now it's working |
| 12:10.09 | AgentPaper | thanks again |
| 12:12.14 | AgentPaper | wait it's still doing double model |
| 12:12.22 | AgentPaper | did you also remove the construction start event? |
| 12:13.49 | Helral|Work | nope |
| 12:14.00 | Helral|Work | only the unitmorph one. |
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| 12:14.12 | AgentPaper | oh |
| 12:14.18 | AgentPaper | not the birth one? |
| 12:17.45 | AgentPaper | theeere we go |
| 12:19.02 | Helral|Work | working now? |
| 12:20.29 | AgentPaper | yup |
| 12:20.50 | AgentPaper | level 3 doesn't rotate and probably is also duplicated, but I know why now so it's all good =D |
| 12:21.10 | Helral|Work | hmmm lol now it doesn't create the actor at all for me ;p |
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| 12:22.02 | AgentPaper | wait, doh. |
| 12:22.10 | AgentPaper | where do you attach the turret actor again? lol |
| 12:22.24 | AgentPaper | I remember I need to attach it manually but not where |
| 12:22.57 | Helral|Work | hmmm? |
| 12:23.31 | AgentPaper | nevermind found it |
| 12:23.40 | AgentPaper | in the events |
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| 12:31.52 | harl | ahoy |
| 12:31.52 | Bounty | :) |
| 12:32.12 | Bounty | So, who wants to see my return to mapping project? |
| 12:32.14 | Bounty | >< |
| 12:32.23 | Bounty | Just uploaded the video |
| 12:33.13 | AgentPaper | what is it? |
| 12:33.26 | Bounty | well |
| 12:33.32 | Bounty | its called "Iconic Bosses" =) |
| 12:33.34 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-NDQP-ErGk |
| 12:34.06 | Bounty | first half of the video shows how the combat works and the second half shows... epicness |
| 12:41.15 | AgentPaper | mmm, vera nice |
| 12:41.33 | AgentPaper | dunno about the combat, combos to do attacks seems annoying and uneccessary |
| 12:42.22 | AgentPaper | but hey it's your map =D |
| 12:45.12 | Bounty | you have normal attacks then you have combo attacks |
| 13:52.57 | AgentPaper | so having trouble trying to set my unit's armor again |
| 13:53.06 | AgentPaper | I thought it was working before but I was wrong |
| 13:53.19 | AgentPaper | so, how do I increase attributes with triggers? |
| 13:53.29 | AgentPaper | can I make it scale with their level or something? |
| 13:53.41 | AgentPaper | oh, also how do I make the units display their level, btw |
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| 14:01.16 | grim001 | why does the SC2 editor's custom script syntax highlighting suck so much? |
| 14:01.26 | grim001 | did they really just say "fuck it" to fixing such a blatant bug? |
| 14:01.46 | grim001 | they should have just disabled it |
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| 14:08.12 | grim001 | especially hilarious when there's a giant block of commented code and it won't even turn all of the letters green. |
| 14:13.04 | AgentPaper | my huge block of custom code for the unit bank is striped =D |
| 14:14.56 | grim001 | yep |
| 14:15.10 | grim001 | anyone remember what the highest fixed value sc2 can hold is? |
| 14:15.50 | AgentPaper | jeez, do I really have to enter two new entries for every singly unit I want my upgrade to affect? |
| 14:15.56 | AgentPaper | single* |
| 14:23.35 | AgentPaper | ok, just added in 7 towers, 10 enemy mobs, and implemented a new way of increasing armor... |
| 14:23.41 | AgentPaper | now, for the fun part |
| 14:24.29 | AgentPaper | haha, my level 2 tower is invisible |
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| 14:39.04 | grim001 | hmm |
| 14:39.14 | grim001 | this isn't as bad as I thought it might be |
| 14:39.30 | grim001 | free global declaration, custom script init functions |
| 14:39.33 | Deaod | its (2^20)-^ |
| 14:39.44 | Deaod | -1* |
| 14:39.53 | grim001 | already got it |
| 14:40.08 | grim001 | got my priority queue system working |
| 14:40.21 | grim001 | so now I can build a timed event type system on top of it |
| 14:40.27 | Deaod | actually, no. |
| 14:40.44 | grim001 | it's 524287.??? |
| 14:40.45 | Deaod | its probably (2^19)-1 |
| 14:40.52 | Deaod | yeah |
| 14:41.31 | Deaod | +1-(2^-12) |
| 14:41.43 | Deaod | or is it 13? |
| 14:41.45 | Deaod | meh. |
| 14:43.44 | grim001 | fill up an array with 128 values, fill up a priority queue with 10 values, extract them, fill it up again with 10 more values, extract half of them |
| 14:43.52 | grim001 | that's all it takes to hit the op limit nowadays |
| 14:48.55 | Deaod | wtf. |
| 14:49.31 | Deaod | check for a runaway loop |
| 14:49.52 | Deaod | other tests indicated an oplimit much higher than WC3s |
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| 14:54.57 | grim001 | well, it could have something to do with printing all of the results |
| 14:55.35 | grim001 | meh is there any way to spawn a new thread without time elapsing in sc2? |
| 14:55.44 | grim001 | I remember I did some tests with triggers but I don't remember the conclusions |
| 14:57.44 | Clord | hehe I wonder how my "boss monsters" map or whatever does under 1.3.0 once it comes to europe |
| 14:57.45 | Clord | XD |
| 14:58.37 | Clord | I remember when I first published it.. it came to first page by itself because of timing ;) |
| 14:59.18 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 14:59.31 | Clord | then awaken :) |
| 14:59.35 | Skizot | updated shot. |
| 14:59.36 | Clord | hurry up XD |
| 14:59.37 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/marketdoodads.png |
| 15:00.10 | Clord | nice |
| 15:00.31 | AgentPaper | yay got my armor running! |
| 15:00.47 | AgentPaper | I now have 100 levels of TD |
| 15:00.49 | Clord | lol |
| 15:00.52 | Clord | gonna chase it down? |
| 15:00.56 | Clord | ^^ |
| 15:00.57 | AgentPaper | only one tower, but still it's fully functional XD |
| 15:00.58 | Clord | okay |
| 15:01.23 | Clord | wintermaul remake was horrible lol |
| 15:01.24 | Clord | in EU |
| 15:01.30 | Clord | towers didn't turn |
| 15:02.01 | grim001 | oh, I found my old post on the topic. |
| 15:02.04 | grim001 | Evaluate: Starts new thread, resets op-limit, can return a boolean value, does not wait for the new thread to finish, defaults to returning true if the new thread has a wait in it. |
| 15:02.06 | grim001 | Execute: Starts new thread, resets op-limit, cannot return anything, allows you to choose whether you want to wait for the new thread to finish. |
| 15:02.16 | Clord | back in WCIII you could also do turnable towers but most didn't realize how to ;) |
| 15:02.53 | AgentPaper | as a reward for my own diligence, I will now consume a can of baked beans |
| 15:03.45 | Clord | back then when my english sucked really majorly and my editor skills was under self training pretty much.. I already made "organic" units to turn |
| 15:03.50 | Clord | http://war3.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=7739 |
| 15:04.57 | Clord | my most succesful map truly rocked ^^ |
| 15:04.57 | Clord | http://war3.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=9296 |
| 15:05.12 | AgentPaper | anyways,,,NOW I'm going to go play some green TD or something |
| 15:05.41 | JademusSreg | coffee. |
| 15:05.50 | JademusSreg | It's a verb now. |
| 15:18.56 | JManV | coffee hasn't always been a verb? |
| 15:19.53 | JademusSreg | Like science. Now let's all coffeed up and get down to sciencing. |
| 15:21.05 | Clord | lol |
| 15:21.26 | Clord | it is insane how many has download my naruto related map |
| 15:21.27 | Clord | XD |
| 15:21.31 | Clord | just because it is naruto related map >_> |
| 15:21.44 | JademusSreg | D= |
| 15:23.58 | JademusSreg | Maps that take ip from other media are bad. Michael Jackson Bad. |
| 15:24.22 | JademusSreg | How could you do this to us?! What fresh hell hath you wrought? |
| 15:25.10 | Clord | XD |
| 15:26.09 | Clord | http://games.softpedia.com/get/Maps/Warcraft-3-Map-Naruto-Strike-Arena.shtml |
| 15:27.12 | Clord | http://war3.incgamers.com/?p=mod&m=11127 |
| 15:27.18 | Clord | way more recent version |
| 15:27.23 | Clord | rescent.. XD |
| 15:27.46 | Clord | it seems that I back then mocked others work " |
| 15:27.46 | Clord | Enjoy from map, it took literally days to make and test for public release quality. Meaning that map has been worked more than 24-48 hours or whatever. Credits from models are in map's quest menu." |
| 15:27.48 | Clord | XD |
| 15:28.39 | Clord | kinda reminds from license games |
| 15:28.45 | Clord | what are rushed for release with movie |
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| 15:28.56 | JademusSreg | Clord, have you played The Worst Map In Human History? |
| 15:29.10 | JademusSreg | It's pretty horrifying. |
| 15:29.13 | Clord | I played PC verison from Terminator - Salvation from start to finish for god sake XD |
| 15:29.20 | Clord | god's.... |
| 15:29.27 | JademusSreg | It's called Map Tong Hop. |
| 15:29.27 | Clord | well |
| 15:29.34 | Clord | you mean DotA? |
| 15:29.35 | Clord | XD |
| 15:29.39 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 15:30.02 | Clord | okay for more serious answer |
| 15:30.11 | Clord | I have seen my share of pretty bad maps |
| 15:30.24 | Clord | hard to rank shit from next shit |
| 15:31.19 | JademusSreg | Map Tong Hop is a map from Korea or somwhere, and it is just a goddamned orgy of anime and JRPG characters. |
| 15:31.26 | Clord | btw... thing I really like ghost++ bot in WCIII... is ability to make replay files from matches you are not even in |
| 15:31.47 | Clord | it really makes data flood of information :) |
| 15:31.59 | JademusSreg | Heh. |
| 15:31.59 | Clord | because most players not realize author gonna see those matches ;) |
| 15:32.29 | Clord | there is that "anime fight" map or whatever |
| 15:32.29 | Clord | what took WCIII hosting by storm |
| 15:32.48 | Clord | lol.... there was even Masamune item for Sephiroth just because it is so iconic character |
| 15:33.13 | Clord | and.. don't try to find balance of such map XD |
| 15:33.20 | Clord | more popular characters are more imba ;) |
| 15:33.45 | JademusSreg | Map Tong Hop is so much worse. It's like an epileptic seizure of spectacular and worthless activity. Everything that could be wrong with a map is wrong with this map. |
| 15:33.53 | JademusSreg | It must be seen to be believed. |
| 15:34.02 | Clord | lol |
| 15:34.21 | Clord | http://www.epicwar.com/maps/62689/ |
| 15:34.46 | Clord | http://www.epicwar.com/maps/129683/ |
| 15:34.50 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 15:34.50 | Clord | plagarism strikes again it seems |
| 15:34.51 | Clord | XD |
| 15:34.55 | Clord | not sure which one is real |
| 15:34.57 | Clord | if both |
| 15:35.15 | Clord | more like "or both" |
| 15:35.17 | Clord | but whatever ^^ |
| 15:35.37 | JademusSreg | v49 is the one I played iirc. |
| 15:36.36 | Clord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bk0jNsmGu80 |
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| 15:36.59 | Clord | my map is best of the genre |
| 15:37.00 | Clord | lol |
| 15:37.04 | Clord | too bad I came years late |
| 15:37.05 | Clord | ;) |
| 15:37.44 | JademusSreg | These sorts of things happen. At least we're here at beginning of SC2 modding. |
| 15:38.07 | Clord | http://news.softpedia.com/news/Arthas-Arena-2-The-Ultimate-Experience-105985.shtml |
| 15:38.10 | Clord | it also got reviewed |
| 15:38.24 | Clord | it is one of my most download actually good maps |
| 15:39.05 | AgentPaper | grrr why does everyone play star battles instead of flagship battles? |
| 15:39.12 | Clord | it has six races... full advanced AI support etc ^^ |
| 15:39.22 | Clord | in that arthas arena 2 thing XD |
| 15:39.27 | AgentPaper | they're *exactly* the same, except flagship has more stuff |
| 15:39.31 | Clord | it is melee AI and trigger hybrid ;) |
| 15:39.45 | Clord | it is fun to try 1v3v3v3 lol XD |
| 15:39.46 | JademusSreg | People play Star Battles because it's higher on the list. =) |
| 15:39.51 | Clord | hehe yeah |
| 15:39.52 | Clord | but soon |
| 15:39.57 | Clord | 1.3.0 |
| 15:39.58 | Clord | XD |
| 15:40.12 | AgentPaper | it will be the dawn of a new age for cutsom maps! |
| 15:40.27 | AgentPaper | custom maps too |
| 15:40.35 | JademusSreg | I must say, Clord, that map looks positively decent. I really couldn't say more without playing it, |
| 15:40.37 | Clord | I hope that "fun or not" button actually is done smartly and try to fill already existing lobby first |
| 15:40.41 | Clord | before making new random lobby |
| 15:41.59 | Clord | if it is done smartly.. it automatically sends player to new lobby and fills it |
| 15:42.01 | AgentPaper | Hark! Heed ye folly! Nary a tryst so foolhardy as to entreat upon a forsaken lobby! |
| 15:42.05 | Clord | even if there is no lobby already XD |
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| 15:43.06 | Clord | but yeah.. it could pick random map... then start form party.. and then send them all in synch to it.. and match would start after download |
| 15:43.07 | Clord | ^^ |
| 15:44.50 | Clord | " |
| 15:44.50 | Clord | Fun or Not: From this page you can automatically join a random new Custom Game. After the game, players using Fun or Not are asked to recommend the map (or not). Recommending maps helps get them onto the Up & Coming page." |
| 15:45.09 | Clord | that "random new custom game" makes me wonder |
| 15:45.23 | Clord | does it consider those maps what almost nobody plays as new |
| 15:45.28 | Clord | XD |
| 15:45.52 | Clord | I just love how vague blizzard is |
| 15:46.49 | AgentPaper | if they told you how it worked people would try to game it more |
| 15:47.57 | Clord | I guess it is based on voting |
| 15:48.01 | Clord | map with zero up or down votes |
| 15:48.02 | Clord | is new |
| 15:48.14 | Clord | and fun or not joins you there |
| 15:48.20 | JademusSreg | It's going to get hustled eventually. |
| 15:48.40 | Clord | other thing could be that it keeps 24/7 hosting random least played maps |
| 15:48.44 | AgentPaper | yeah but now only smart people can figure it out |
| 15:49.01 | Clord | I see kinda how they think it gonna work well |
| 15:49.01 | JademusSreg | SotiS will have people or bots Liking the hell out of it. |
| 15:49.20 | Clord | it hosts maps what nobody knows.... then if people vote it too much thumbs down.... then it is never hosted again |
| 15:49.47 | Clord | that is probably how it works |
| 15:51.17 | Clord | basically better make sure that when map appears.. presentation is at least acceptable XD |
| 15:51.25 | Clord | lol |
| 15:51.37 | Clord | because that damn system gonna pick your map even if you don't want |
| 15:51.40 | Clord | eventually |
| 15:53.34 | Clord | next month is great |
| 15:53.37 | Clord | in gaming side |
| 15:53.50 | Clord | Dissidia 012 Japanese version... US version, EU version |
| 15:53.51 | Clord | XD |
| 15:54.04 | Clord | DNF revealed even more =) |
| 15:56.00 | Clord | TCG community probably wonders where is next update |
| 15:56.08 | Clord | as I have been updating more than once per day rate almost |
| 15:56.08 | Clord | XD |
| 15:56.11 | JademusSreg | I haven't enjoyed playing any Final Fantasy game after Tactics. For me, that was the peak. Their shit continues to get prettier and less interesting. |
| 15:56.37 | Clord | basically you didn't get over 2d to 3d transition |
| 15:56.43 | JademusSreg | I haven't played Dissidia, so I can't speak to the effect of its quality, though. |
| 15:56.49 | Clord | :) |
| 15:56.54 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 15:57.02 | Clord | Dissidia is excellent game |
| 15:57.18 | JademusSreg | FFT straddled it. 3D stages, 2D object sprites. |
| 15:57.23 | Clord | and final boss is one of those things you beat with skill over overlevel to have more room for mistakes XD |
| 15:57.42 | Clord | or overlevel |
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| 15:58.54 | Skizot | i need more ideas for doodads in this theme.. |
| 15:58.54 | Clord | still I would have liked more roomy final boss fight a nd not being pushed to some cage with boss that it can have better chance to beat player |
| 15:58.54 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/marketdoodads.png |
| 15:59.18 | JademusSreg | For the record, I thought FFTA was kinda shitty, too. |
| 15:59.27 | Clord | makes me thin C&C Generals and Zero Hour |
| 15:59.28 | Clord | XD |
| 15:59.34 | Clord | think |
| 15:59.37 | Skizot | well then it's doing it's job. |
| 15:59.39 | JademusSreg | Hah! Same. |
| 16:00.32 | Clord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKjCzvkphfE |
| 16:01.47 | JademusSreg | Was there ever a good C&C game? |
| 16:02.11 | Clord | biggest arenas are size of... guy is dot in distance... XD |
| 16:02.26 | Clord | hmmm |
| 16:02.29 | Clord | generally |
| 16:02.33 | Clord | Red Alert 2 and 3 |
| 16:04.00 | Clord | hehe I gotta say that Dissidia is still kinda fan service |
| 16:04.21 | JademusSreg | I appreciate that Dissidia seems like an action RPG + fighting game, vaguely comparable to Ehrgeiz, besides the overtly shitty gameplay of the latter. |
| 16:04.53 | Clord | Cloud and Sephiroth are fan service ;) |
| 16:05.04 | Clord | easiest storymode's storyline is Cloud's one |
| 16:05.10 | JademusSreg | Yep. Especially the scene where they kiss, right? /making shit up |
| 16:05.33 | Clord | XD |
| 16:05.43 | Clord | well |
| 16:05.54 | Clord | Cloud and Sephiroth has some issues even in real storylines |
| 16:06.08 | Clord | it is kinda like sick version of Batman and Joker |
| 16:06.09 | Clord | XD |
| 16:06.45 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 16:06.46 | Clord | Cloud tries to kill Sephiroth but Sephiroth is about immortal... and Sephiroth does not want to kill Cloud.......................... |
| 16:07.33 | Deaod | thats easy to solve. |
| 16:07.40 | Deaod | noone tries to kill anyone. |
| 16:07.45 | Deaod | story over. |
| 16:07.48 | Clord | in fact during dissidia's overall storyline... Sephiroth did next to nothing almost... other than put up few fights and not caring of other villains XD |
| 16:08.09 | Clord | nice team work there pretty boy |
| 16:08.10 | Clord | lol |
| 16:08.54 | Clord | oh and CGI movie called "Advent Children Complete"..... end result is that Sephiroth survived and just leaves |
| 16:09.07 | Clord | do you smell sequel eh? XD |
| 16:09.12 | JademusSreg | Haha. FF culture is silly. |
| 16:09.34 | Abstruse | silliness leads to unadulterated sex |
| 16:09.41 | Abstruse | and immature parents |
| 16:09.47 | Abstruse | :D |
| 16:09.50 | Clord | there was point where most who gained interest to RPG genre was because of FFVII |
| 16:10.09 | Abstruse | bs |
| 16:10.11 | Clord | and that is one of reasons why it stays on top in FF genre XD |
| 16:10.44 | Clord | (oh and made most money to square enix) |
| 16:10.47 | Abstruse | the place where i live |
| 16:10.51 | Abstruse | if a person likes ff7 |
| 16:10.59 | Abstruse | they actually regaurd it as more than an rpg |
| 16:11.01 | JademusSreg | Yahtzee put it pretty well, though he was talking about comic books, when he said "like a good bowel movement, it's only satisfying because it ends". |
| 16:11.12 | Abstruse | :D |
| 16:11.17 | Abstruse | i beat it in 3 days |
| 16:11.20 | Clord | lol |
| 16:11.23 | Abstruse | and was finished with it |
| 16:11.24 | Abstruse | for good |
| 16:11.27 | Clord | Uwe Bowl ;) |
| 16:11.32 | Clord | Uwe Boll |
| 16:11.34 | Clord | etc |
| 16:12.12 | Clord | or Uwe Boll aka.. how in the heck it keeps making enough cash to ruin next series of games |
| 16:12.12 | Clord | XD |
| 16:12.24 | Clord | and why people keep selling rights for him |
| 16:12.28 | JademusSreg | My RPG interest started with Chrono Trigger, went on to Earthbound, Secret of Mana, Secret of Evermore, Final Fantasy 6, and ended with Final Fantasy Tactics. |
| 16:12.40 | Clord | aah Chrono Trigger |
| 16:12.43 | Clord | played it with emulator :) |
| 16:13.02 | Abstruse | man |
| 16:13.06 | Clord | oh and played some better.. unofficial translation what was way more accurate and actually with some bug fixes and improvements to code :) |
| 16:13.07 | Abstruse | nexus |
| 16:13.09 | JademusSreg | I exaggerate only slightly: I also enjoy a few other RPGs, but few a far between. |
| 16:13.13 | JademusSreg | *and |
| 16:13.23 | Abstruse | nexus came out before ff7 |
| 16:13.33 | Abstruse | was like ff3 in mmo form kinda |
| 16:13.40 | Clord | what is "nexus" you speak of? |
| 16:13.47 | Abstruse | it';s gone downhill |
| 16:14.02 | Abstruse | after it spread out through a multinational franchize |
| 16:14.13 | Abstruse | it had like 500 versions |
| 16:14.24 | Abstruse | and korea's version was the one that picked up most speed |
| 16:14.30 | Clord | played some FF3 |
| 16:14.37 | Clord | you start as adventurer in 3d remake |
| 16:14.40 | Abstruse | now the american version looks just as gay as maplestory |
| 16:14.41 | Clord | instead onion knight XD |
| 16:14.53 | Abstruse | since nexon and kru interactive traded the two games with exahother |
| 16:15.02 | Clord | lol and in FF3.. your first boss you face is turtle |
| 16:15.12 | Abstruse | :O |
| 16:15.34 | Clord | then crystal in 3d remake tells you that you have mission |
| 16:15.36 | Clord | aka your character has |
| 16:15.59 | Clord | some strange reason you gotta find missing party members and save the world what not yet look like need of saving |
| 16:16.06 | Clord | such quality storyline lol ^^ |
| 16:16.08 | JademusSreg | This reminds me of a photoshop I did last night. http://i.imgur.com/PVDpV.jpg |
| 16:17.13 | Clord | square enix keeps making those games to NDS |
| 16:17.15 | Clord | lol |
| 16:17.49 | Clord | that PSP version of kingdom hearts stuff was way better.... no size restrictions ruining good game |
| 16:18.04 | Clord | kingdom hearts - birth by sleep XD |
| 16:19.09 | Clord | all kingdom hearts handheld releases has been quite good besides that one where you hunt bugs inside system |
| 16:19.29 | Clord | it has like next to no real storyline adding to anything XD |
| 16:19.41 | JademusSreg | Kingdom Hearts - Nobody Remembers Why They Are Playing |
| 16:20.09 | JademusSreg | It's like the amnesia gimmick from Chain of Memories, only it applies to the player. |
| 16:20.11 | Clord | because spamming buttons eases agression? |
| 16:20.24 | Clord | lol |
| 16:20.34 | Clord | that 3d remake of chain of memories is quite good |
| 16:20.41 | Clord | played it with pcsx2 emulator |
| 16:20.43 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:22.12 | Clord | nowadays companies could easily make deal with pcsx2 developers to sell emulated games for PC |
| 16:22.25 | Clord | lol |
| 16:23.52 | JademusSreg | I like playing indie platformers. <3 |
| 16:26.20 | Clord | lol |
| 16:26.46 | Clord | http://openra.res0l.net/ |
| 16:28.03 | Clord | irony is that suddenly when someone remakes game with improvements |
| 16:28.12 | Clord | suddenly multiplayer is alive and well |
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| 16:28.30 | JademusSreg | Old school. |
| 16:28.35 | Skittles | hihi |
| 16:28.38 | JademusSreg | Hihi. |
| 16:28.52 | Clord | technically it just makes use of old assests |
| 16:28.58 | Clord | but coding side it is new |
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| 16:29.05 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/r13shouse.jpg |
| 16:29.34 | JademusSreg | Nice dumpster -- I mean, house. |
| 16:31.22 | Clord | yeah it is obviously dumpster |
| 16:31.27 | JademusSreg | =) |
| 16:31.35 | Clord | or one of slum planet's houses |
| 16:31.36 | Clord | XD |
| 16:32.06 | JademusSreg | Slum Planet: Where The Galaxy Sends Its Poor |
| 16:35.14 | Skittles | maybe a hobo will jump out |
| 16:37.20 | JademusSreg | The real question is when will a hobo not jump out? On slum planet, there isn't much for hobos to do besides jump out and kick debris around. (I've been told Americans refer to kicking around debris as "soccer".) |
| 16:38.14 | Skittles | Your not american? |
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| 16:42.43 | Griffith` | is there a 3rd party program that can be used to make SC2 maps? |
| 16:43.37 | Skittles | maybe in here? http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/third-party-tools/ |
| 16:46.34 | grim001 | great |
| 16:46.48 | JademusSreg | Great? |
| 16:46.56 | grim001 | I fixed all the issues, now my priority queue can load 10 values and extract 10 values 2722 times before the thread crashes |
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| 16:47.48 | JademusSreg | That much closer to a glorious physics engine? |
| 16:48.34 | Skittles | :p |
| 16:48.42 | grim001 | the priority queue will be used for a timer system, actually |
| 16:48.58 | grim001 | SC2 really seems to need one because no one has even attempted to make a satisfactory timer system yet |
| 16:49.04 | Skittles | doesn't sc2 have physics built into its engine? |
| 16:49.17 | grim001 | not in any way that's accessible to the user |
| 16:49.24 | Skittles | oh |
| 16:49.54 | JademusSreg | Unless Blizzard somehow grants access to the physics engine, it may as well not exist. =) |
| 16:50.02 | Skittles | haha |
| 16:50.12 | Skittles | its only used for death animations anyway, right? |
| 16:50.19 | grim001 | turns out that the only way to make a timer system that works properly with SC2's funky time system is to base it off a priority queue |
| 16:50.34 | Skittles | a timer system? |
| 16:50.36 | JademusSreg | The Odin could push around other physics objects, iirc. |
| 16:51.06 | JademusSreg | Giving an object Automatic physics type allows that much. |
| 16:51.07 | Skittles | hm |
| 16:51.17 | Clord | there is limited physics |
| 16:51.26 | Clord | like you can make AOE to throw units around |
| 16:51.45 | Skittles | Anybody could do that! :p |
| 16:52.36 | Skittles | hmm |
| 16:52.37 | JademusSreg | It's not even physics there; the "force" is just going to work, no matter how high the target's mass is. |
| 16:53.07 | JademusSreg | The force value determines the speed at which the target is propelled. |
| 16:53.17 | Skittles | There isn't an easy way to change the angle of a unit, right? not talking about facing angle |
| 16:53.26 | JademusSreg | There is. |
| 16:53.31 | JademusSreg | Actor messages. |
| 16:53.32 | Griffith` | i didnt realize galaxy was such an easy scripting language O_ |
| 16:53.33 | Griffith` | O |
| 16:53.38 | Skittles | which one? |
| 16:53.47 | JademusSreg | Rotation |
| 16:53.54 | JademusSreg | Not Facing |
| 16:53.55 | JademusSreg | Rotation |
| 16:54.02 | Skittles | I remember people whining about it being hard? |
| 16:54.19 | Griffith` | shrug i can write C code |
| 16:54.27 | Griffith` | so galaxy is almost identical |
| 16:55.15 | grim001 | so are you going to be one of the 5 guys actually coding in galaxy rather than GUI from now on? |
| 16:55.27 | Skittles | lol |
| 16:55.34 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 16:55.50 | Griffith` | lol |
| 16:56.11 | JademusSreg | We're a small and motley crew. |
| 16:56.21 | JManV | i'm working on it.. |
| 16:56.26 | JManV | (kinda) |
| 16:56.32 | JademusSreg | No wai |
| 16:56.39 | JademusSreg | You just keep teasing. |
| 16:56.53 | JademusSreg | Because you don't want to record your map. |
| 16:56.58 | JademusSreg | *recode |
| 16:57.18 | Clord | I once made marine's attack to push units around and deal that damage |
| 16:57.19 | Clord | XD |
| 16:57.23 | Clord | but problem was |
| 16:57.27 | Clord | they moved like inch |
| 16:57.30 | Clord | no matter of force amount |
| 16:57.47 | Skittles | so how does rotation work? |
| 16:57.53 | JManV | i could start tho. i don't have to recode to start using it |
| 16:57.53 | Skittles | It's just a blank field to type in |
| 16:58.13 | JManV | there is an awful lot of GUI code tho :P |
| 16:58.14 | Clord | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/1959710#blog |
| 16:58.17 | Clord | EU now has patch notes |
| 16:58.20 | Clord | for 1.3.0 |
| 16:58.25 | Clord | but yeah lol |
| 16:58.30 | Clord | no PTR up here yet |
| 16:58.54 | Skittles | does it really matter? Xd |
| 16:58.57 | Skittles | Not like it's fun. |
| 16:59.33 | JManV | yeha i never really try the PTRs |
| 16:59.56 | JManV | especially since there are no customs |
| 17:00.28 | JManV | can't really get any info about the things that affect me |
| 17:00.32 | Clord | errm you can upload custom maps for PTR |
| 17:00.35 | Clord | with public test editor |
| 17:00.39 | Clord | if you can believe news post |
| 17:00.49 | Clord | http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/patch-1-3-ptr/ |
| 17:01.24 | JManV | hmm |
| 17:03.17 | JManV | PTR editor is new i think |
| 17:03.24 | JManV | interesting |
| 17:03.59 | Clord | yeah that news got stealth updated with more details.. but it told previously too to submit your maps for testing |
| 17:05.57 | Hati | SC2 Public Test server is not available right now. Please check http://www.battle.net/sc2/game/ptr/ for more information. |
| 17:05.58 | Hati | :( |
| 17:06.54 | Clord | yeah |
| 17:08.11 | Clord | yet even SEA region can particate |
| 17:08.12 | Clord | http://sea.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/124097#blog |
| 17:08.13 | Clord | lol |
| 17:08.28 | Clord | yeah and it is because |
| 17:08.33 | Clord | they can use US region to play |
| 17:22.11 | Skittles | lol |
| 17:22.19 | Skittles | but u gotta understand |
| 17:22.27 | Skittles | the majority of EU speaks a lot of languages |
| 17:22.47 | Skittles | i mean there are a lot of languages included in eu |
| 17:24.52 | JManV | sixen? |
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| 17:28.21 | Clord | hehe yeah Skitties |
| 17:28.24 | Clord | but PTR is optional |
| 17:28.29 | Clord | those with lack of english skills |
| 17:28.34 | Clord | can just not particate on it |
| 17:29.45 | Skittles | lol |
| 17:29.52 | Skittles | they would still complain. :p |
| 17:30.19 | Clord | which makes no sense.. as PTR exist for reason that it allows to test risky stuff |
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| 17:45.30 | Clord | it sucks how words get romanized in internet.... ou becomes o |
| 17:45.31 | Clord | XD |
| 17:47.04 | Clord | reminds me words what non japanese learners probably fail to type right :) |
| 17:47.11 | Clord | kurisumasu |
| 17:47.16 | Clord | christmas XD |
| 17:47.39 | AgentPaper | oh man, just had the most bitchin round of flagship battles |
| 17:47.40 | Clord | basically anything with "masu" part in wasei eigo words.... |
| 17:47.44 | Clord | :) |
| 17:47.45 | Clord | okay |
| 17:48.06 | AgentPaper | started 2 hours ago X |
| 17:48.08 | AgentPaper | XD* |
| 17:48.19 | Clord | I would have quitted over hour ago probably |
| 17:48.29 | AgentPaper | I had 7 kills 1 death at the start, seriously like 4 different times I went below 100 HP |
| 17:48.30 | Clord | I don't generally favor maps with drag on ability |
| 17:48.53 | Clord | so once 1.3.0 hits.. mappers beware! |
| 17:48.55 | Clord | ;) |
| 17:49.03 | AgentPaper | lol |
| 17:49.45 | Clord | hehe... I got this elegant solution for dragging on situations |
| 17:49.51 | AgentPaper | we ended up killing both leviathans before pushing into the enemy base for the win |
| 17:49.52 | Clord | for example my THE Card Game map |
| 17:49.53 | AgentPaper | so epic |
| 17:50.02 | Clord | after 30 real world seconds |
| 17:50.11 | Clord | I mean |
| 17:50.12 | Clord | minutes |
| 17:50.22 | Clord | it starts to reduce HP of both Planetary Fortressses |
| 17:50.31 | Clord | so eventually they are o ne hit away from being destroyed XD |
| 17:50.44 | AgentPaper | sudden death, yeah |
| 17:50.54 | AgentPaper | I'd prefer a global buff to damage actually |
| 17:51.39 | Clord | it originates back to those live tournaments with TCG map |
| 17:51.41 | Clord | ^^ |
| 17:51.49 | Clord | did need figure fast out something to not make match drag |
| 17:51.52 | Clord | if both teams are too equal |
| 17:52.07 | Clord | hehe recently one of matches I played |
| 17:52.17 | Clord | situation was 1-1 like minutes |
| 17:52.29 | AgentPaper | hm, for a TCG, you might just do something like, if 30 minutes pass then it's a BATTLE TO THE DEATH! You have 20 mana, use it as you will but that's all there is! |
| 17:52.40 | AgentPaper | just force an ending like that |
| 17:53.15 | Clord | errm... it uses vespene for card usage.. minerals for card draws and terrazine for unit specific upgrades |
| 17:53.23 | AgentPaper | uh |
| 17:53.28 | Clord | =) |
| 17:53.32 | AgentPaper | ok whatever I'mma focus on my map |
| 17:53.32 | AgentPaper | hehe |
| 17:53.49 | AgentPaper | hm, what should my splash tower be? |
| 17:53.57 | Clord | oh and it is lone king of card game genre in SCII XD |
| 17:54.14 | AgentPaper | I think I played that once |
| 17:54.34 | Clord | most TD games fail to get their towers right |
| 17:54.47 | Clord | tower should always be most effective in its intended purpose.. cost effectively |
| 17:54.47 | Clord | XD |
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| 17:55.36 | Clord | well that's the basic theory of balance :) |
| 17:55.44 | Clord | be cost effective counter |
| 17:55.52 | Clord | that is what many RTS games try to be XD |
| 17:55.53 | AgentPaper | well, yeah |
| 17:56.13 | Clord | but it often does not work with even big titles |
| 17:56.25 | AgentPaper | aoe tower hits an area but does half or 1/4 damage or something |
| 17:57.15 | Clord | for example.... most C&C RTS games.... infantry is not cost effective unless game allows to garrison them.... |
| 17:57.31 | Clord | in first red dalert they are piece of carpage XD |
| 17:57.34 | Clord | carbage XD |
| 17:57.39 | Clord | alert... |
| 18:04.16 | JManV | mmm... garrisonned buildings :P |
| 18:04.34 | JManV | mmm... prism tanks |
| 18:08.08 | JademusSreg | Neat mechanics, poor games. |
| 18:08.09 | JManV | i haven't played c&c in a dog's age |
| 18:08.23 | JManV | last one i really got into was red alert 2 |
| 18:08.37 | JademusSreg | Maybe I'll try making tiberium today. |
| 18:08.40 | JManV | i played a little ra3, but never really got into it |
| 18:09.11 | JManV | i tried making an "all that glitters" map for sc2, but all those minerals lag like what |
| 18:11.08 | JademusSreg | In my experience C&C have been playable but mediocre at best, and attrocious at worst; EA really screwed the dog and drove a classic into the ground. |
| 18:11.25 | JManV | red alert 2 was epic |
| 18:11.31 | JManV | everything since... meh |
| 18:12.04 | JademusSreg | Udo Kier, pretty neat they got him to play Yuri. |
| 18:12.36 | Skittles | yeah i liked red alert 2 a lot |
| 18:12.43 | Skittles | 1 of the first games I ever played |
| 18:12.45 | JademusSreg | But the gameplay was still dull. |
| 18:12.47 | Skittles | on pc ofc |
| 18:12.52 | JademusSreg | I played the crap out of it. |
| 18:13.01 | Skittles | i was like ..10? lo |
| 18:13.02 | JademusSreg | Of course. |
| 18:13.13 | JManV | the game really supported the early rush |
| 18:13.24 | Skittles | hmm |
| 18:13.24 | AgentPaper | hm, how would I make a tower shoot randomly at all targets in range, instead of just focusing on one? |
| 18:13.26 | Skittles | idk |
| 18:13.32 | AgentPaper | outside of triggers, I knoe how to do it like that |
| 18:13.34 | Skittles | i liked using bridges to my advantage tho |
| 18:13.44 | JademusSreg | Why would you want it to be random? |
| 18:13.54 | JademusSreg | Anyway, after it attacks, issue a stop order. |
| 18:14.03 | JademusSreg | It will retarget. |
| 18:14.12 | AgentPaper | ah nice |
| 18:14.15 | JManV | yeah, that's what i was thinking |
| 18:14.26 | JManV | it will target the closest unit with the highest priority |
| 18:14.40 | AgentPaper | so then I just need to make it target at random instead of preferring closer ones |
| 18:15.06 | Abstruse | or if a unit is attacked you can set it's attack priority up |
| 18:15.09 | Abstruse | down* |
| 18:15.15 | JademusSreg | There are ways of modifying targetting priority, but I've not messed with it. |
| 18:15.23 | JManV | it's always going to prefer closer ones unless you explicitly issue it an order |
| 18:15.47 | AgentPaper | ah nice |
| 18:16.18 | JManV | yeah, i think priority takes precedence over distance? not sure exactly |
| 18:16.27 | Abstruse | what is the best way to doeal with pyromania? |
| 18:16.40 | Abstruse | ive never burned anything REAL big but ive burned shit |
| 18:16.44 | Abstruse | alot of shit |
| 18:16.45 | AgentPaper | in the unit's events? |
| 18:16.45 | AgentPaper | lesse, where would I put this? |
| 18:16.47 | Abstruse | nothing living yet |
| 18:17.04 | JManV | abstruse: adulthood |
| 18:17.17 | Abstruse | but my inner child is on fire ;; |
| 18:17.17 | JManV | for the most part :P |
| 18:17.21 | JademusSreg | To stop. |
| 18:17.34 | JManV | i dunno. i grew out of it |
| 18:17.43 | JademusSreg | Abstruse, make a trigger to issue a stop order. |
| 18:17.58 | Abstruse | good idea |
| 18:18.11 | Abstruse | oder: stop! |
| 18:18.23 | Abstruse | that'd be so fucking funny if you were walking down town at night |
| 18:18.32 | Abstruse | and there's some guy in an alley way next ot some brush wood |
| 18:18.34 | Abstruse | and al ighter |
| 18:18.37 | Abstruse | yelling ORDER STOP |
| 18:18.53 | Abstruse | over and over |
| 18:19.56 | JademusSreg | I want to learn the language in which reality is programmed so that I can mod it. |
| 18:20.14 | Abstruse | first you have to do away with that atomic theory bullshit jade |
| 18:20.34 | Abstruse | because no good comes of it :D |
| 18:20.44 | JademusSreg | It's turtles all the way down. |
| 18:21.11 | Abstruse | nah |
| 18:21.24 | Abstruse | you can't say atoms exist if there's smaller things than them |
| 18:21.49 | Abstruse | since you can't see any of it.... except in fuzzy pictures under electron microscopes |
| 18:21.51 | JademusSreg | That's an odd take on reductionism. |
| 18:22.20 | Abstruse | what's the huge building/machine that analyzes subatomic particles? |
| 18:22.42 | JademusSreg | Large Hardon Collider |
| 18:22.52 | Abstruse | something like that |
| 18:23.22 | Abstruse | if there are countless of partlicles that are msaller than a fucking electron |
| 18:23.28 | Abstruse | conutless partivles* |
| 18:23.40 | Abstruse | and lots of them move faster than we can concieve |
| 18:23.51 | Abstruse | then we're just shooting in the dark at that point |
| 18:24.28 | Abstruse | my spelling stands invalid, my point stands valid |
| 18:25.21 | JademusSreg | Clarify? |
| 18:25.44 | JademusSreg | I know there is a point, but I don't see where it's stated. |
| 18:26.21 | Skizot | woo |
| 18:26.25 | Abstruse | the point is that an atom is just anything that equals one unit of mass |
| 18:26.30 | Skizot | check for $600 today! |
| 18:26.36 | Abstruse | :O |
| 18:26.43 | Abstruse | what are you gunna spend it on? |
| 18:26.51 | JademusSreg | What is one unit of mass? |
| 18:26.59 | Skizot | midget strippers |
| 18:27.28 | Abstruse | one unit of mass..... atomic mass equals one in all measurement |
| 18:27.33 | Abstruse | you can't specify |
| 18:27.37 | Abstruse | it's all bullshit! |
| 18:27.56 | JademusSreg | So "it's all bullshit" is the point, you mean? |
| 18:28.03 | AgentPaper | what action would I use to reduce target priority? |
| 18:28.16 | Abstruse | that atomic theory is, yes |
| 18:28.23 | Abstruse | that's why i started my argument by stating that |
| 18:28.32 | JademusSreg | Agent, there's nothing that does that specifically, to my knowledge. |
| 18:29.06 | JademusSreg | What alternate theory do you propose? |
| 18:29.19 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/marketdoodads.png |
| 18:29.31 | Abstruse | order in chaos |
| 18:29.34 | Abstruse | :D |
| 18:29.44 | Abstruse | but yeah i don't propose any theory |
| 18:29.49 | Abstruse | all science is is theory |
| 18:29.55 | Abstruse | you can't prove anything |
| 18:29.56 | Abstruse | ever |
| 18:30.04 | Abstruse | it says so in the fucking uncertainty principle |
| 18:30.13 | JademusSreg | Exactly. That's the beauty of tentative conclusions. |
| 18:30.20 | Abstruse | no that's the fault of them |
| 18:30.34 | JademusSreg | Well, the uncertainty principal applies to quantum mechanical systems. |
| 18:30.38 | JademusSreg | Which is subatomic. |
| 18:30.46 | JademusSreg | So to speak. |
| 18:30.56 | Abstruse | so? |
| 18:31.49 | Abstruse | when it all comes down to it sciences shouldn't be standardized for any one person's view |
| 18:32.07 | Abstruse | making sense in itself makes no sense |
| 18:32.20 | JademusSreg | So it's not a philosophical or epistemological concept, but a principal that describes the inability to simultaneously know both velocity and position to an arbitrary degree of accuracy. |
| 18:32.40 | Abstruse | no it's the general concept that everything is whispers in the void |
| 18:32.50 | JademusSreg | In quantum mechanical systems, I mean. |
| 18:33.13 | Abstruse | no that's just the flaw of logical thinking |
| 18:33.30 | Abstruse | first people developed beliefs, they were sometimes true and sometimes false |
| 18:33.40 | Abstruse | then they found meanings, even less commonly true |
| 18:33.44 | Abstruse | then logic was formed |
| 18:33.53 | Abstruse | and everyone got retarded due to the conveniences |
| 18:35.05 | Abstruse | you don't mean anything when you say most of this, it's just banter for you |
| 18:35.29 | Abstruse | you most likely don't believe in anything, there is nothing of significance to you |
| 18:35.39 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 18:35.45 | Abstruse | you're just compelled to do things |
| 18:35.51 | JademusSreg | Such penetrating insight. |
| 18:36.12 | Abstruse | to what extent was that sarcasm? |
| 18:36.28 | JademusSreg | It must be a burden being the only sentient being in a universe of drones. |
| 18:36.43 | Abstruse | see? now you think I'm talking down to you |
| 18:36.46 | Abstruse | im just not relating to you |
| 18:37.01 | Abstruse | you're so full of defense mechanisms it's sickening |
| 18:38.29 | JademusSreg | I am sickening, this is true. I once caused someone to vomit. |
| 18:39.29 | Abstruse | and now you just parrot what is said because you have no ability to deal with anything unrelated to your schools of thought |
| 18:39.38 | Abstruse | you may feel one way or another |
| 18:39.43 | Abstruse | but it matters absolutely not |
| 18:40.43 | JademusSreg | I'm entertaining myself, but you're right that it doesn't matter. |
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| 18:40.56 | Skittles__ | wow... the captcha used a special character.. |
| 18:41.10 | Abstruse | :O |
| 18:41.14 | Abstruse | was it a penis? |
| 18:44.13 | JManV | i had one that was unreadible squiggles |
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| 18:44.24 | Deaod | heh, imagine recaptcha giving you excerpts of a math book |
| 18:44.30 | JManV | either it was so small it couldn't be read, or it was some weird foreign special character |
| 18:47.21 | Skittles__ | i quitted? |
| 18:47.27 | Skittles__ | Imposter! |
| 18:47.45 | Skittles__ | i think the word was nader |
| 18:47.57 | Skittles__ | had a ' above the e |
| 18:48.11 | Abstruse | does nader still run for president? |
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| 18:49.24 | Sumo- | anyone know how to skip thru soundtrack? |
| 18:51.00 | Abstruse | single player juke box? |
| 18:52.17 | Sumo- | nah like from a trigger, for a custom game |
| 18:52.55 | Sumo- | i guess i could orchestrate a sound to be like a soundtrack |
| 18:53.12 | Sumo- | oh i cant, the reason i did this was becuase the default soundtrack kick in over hte top :/ |
| 18:53.23 | Sumo- | i guess i could manage silence inbetween...gid |
| 18:53.24 | Sumo- | god |
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| 18:58.04 | Skittles__ | mm |
| 18:58.13 | Skittles__ | jmanv knows physics pretty well right? |
| 18:58.25 | JManV | somewhat |
| 18:58.34 | Skittles__ | a=(v-vo)/t is a real formula right? |
| 18:59.09 | Sumo- | ? |
| 18:59.15 | Skittles__ | v = final vo = initial |
| 18:59.18 | JManV | yeah |
| 18:59.23 | Skittles__ | mm |
| 18:59.29 | Skittles__ | some reason my time is way to high |
| 18:59.41 | Skittles__ | i used t = (v-vo)/a |
| 18:59.56 | JManV | 1/t = |
| 19:00.04 | JManV | wait |
| 19:00.49 | JManV | yeah |
| 19:01.06 | JManV | a = dv / t (dv = change in velocity - delta v) |
| 19:01.13 | JManV | a/t = dv |
| 19:01.16 | Skittles__ | delta v? |
| 19:01.17 | JManV | 1/t = dv/a |
| 19:01.25 | JManV | change in velocity |
| 19:01.31 | JManV | not minus |
| 19:01.32 | JManV | sorry |
| 19:01.34 | Skittles__ | so acceleration? |
| 19:01.37 | JManV | same thing |
| 19:01.40 | Skittles__ | kk |
| 19:01.45 | JManV | dv is short for delta v |
| 19:01.52 | JManV | which equals change in velocity |
| 19:01.59 | JManV | so |
| 19:02.00 | Skittles__ | which equals acceleration |
| 19:02.01 | Skittles__ | lol |
| 19:02.03 | JManV | t = a/dv |
| 19:02.15 | JManV | no, accelerationg is delta v over time |
| 19:02.17 | Vexal | what's going on |
| 19:02.19 | Skittles__ | oh |
| 19:02.22 | Vexal | you're making it more complicated |
| 19:02.26 | Skittles__ | shit hitting the ceiling ! |
| 19:02.27 | Vexal | than you need to |
| 19:02.53 | JademusSreg | Damn that ceiling! |
| 19:02.54 | Vexal | what are you trying to do |
| 19:02.58 | JManV | you just need to invert your formula |
| 19:03.03 | Skittles__ | t = -.05 / ve - vi? |
| 19:03.15 | Vexal | i've integrated the shit out of equations before |
| 19:03.20 | Vexal | i can help |
| 19:03.25 | Skittles__ | uh |
| 19:03.30 | JManV | he's using the physics formula for acceleration |
| 19:03.35 | JManV | a = dv / t |
| 19:03.38 | Skittles__ | a=(v-vo)/t v = final vo = initial |
| 19:03.38 | Vexal | to what purpose |
| 19:03.42 | Skittles__ | gave me much to high of atime |
| 19:03.43 | JManV | solving for t |
| 19:03.46 | Vexal | is he trying to calculate the position of a particle? |
| 19:03.49 | Vexal | why does he need t? |
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| 19:03.57 | JManV | i dunno |
| 19:03.58 | Skittles__ | so my loop can end |
| 19:04.04 | Vexal | what loop |
| 19:04.07 | Skittles__ | atm it's going where it's suppose to go |
| 19:04.13 | Skittles__ | then it sends the projectile backwards. |
| 19:04.13 | Skittles__ | Xd |
| 19:04.19 | Skittles__ | so my time is to long |
| 19:04.22 | JManV | skittles: t = a / dv |
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| 19:04.26 | Skittles__ | k |
| 19:04.31 | JManV | not t = dv / a |
| 19:04.33 | Skittles__ | dv = ve - vi right? |
| 19:04.37 | JManV | yes |
| 19:04.39 | Skittles__ | kk |
| 19:05.21 | JManV | hmmm nvm |
| 19:05.22 | Vexal | you're making it way more complicated than you need to. |
| 19:05.29 | Vexal | look |
| 19:05.38 | JManV | it's real easy to solve for t |
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| 19:05.54 | JManV | i'm just mathmatically retarded right now :P |
| 19:06.12 | Vexal | position = position intial + (initial velocity * time) + (1/2)*(acceleration)*(time)^2 |
| 19:06.15 | JManV | it actually should be t = dv / a |
| 19:06.34 | Skittles__ | -.05 / ve - vi = t |
| 19:06.36 | Skittles__ | that didn't work either |
| 19:06.37 | JManV | cuz that's not more complicated that it needs to be... |
| 19:06.37 | Vexal | velocity = initial velocity + acceleration*time |
| 19:06.49 | Vexal | acceleration = acceleration |
| 19:06.53 | Vexal | there. |
| 19:07.11 | Skittles__ | hmm |
| 19:07.19 | JManV | skittles: you can't solve without two parts of the equation |
| 19:07.25 | Vexal | what parts do you have |
| 19:07.27 | Skittles__ | ? |
| 19:07.28 | Skittles__ | oh |
| 19:07.28 | JManV | knowing a isn't enough |
| 19:07.32 | Skittles__ | Distance and speed |
| 19:07.33 | Vexal | yeah it is |
| 19:07.43 | Vexal | well |
| 19:07.52 | Skittles__ | I found vi by: http://www.accidentreconstruction.com/education/equations/ivelocity.asp |
| 19:07.52 | Vexal | substitute |
| 19:07.54 | Skittles__ | last formula |
| 19:08.28 | Skittles__ | a is just a bogus number that I was using. |
| 19:08.29 | JManV | do you have distance and speed? |
| 19:08.33 | Skittles__ | yeah |
| 19:08.39 | Vexal | skittles |
| 19:08.40 | Skittles__ | point 1 to point 2 = distance |
| 19:08.48 | Vexal | which speed to you have |
| 19:08.52 | Vexal | the end speed or the start |
| 19:09.12 | Skittles__ | w/e that formula gave me. |
| 19:09.17 | Vexal | nevermind. |
| 19:09.19 | Skittles__ | Xd |
| 19:09.27 | Skittles__ | oh |
| 19:09.29 | Skittles__ | end speed ofc |
| 19:09.30 | Skittles__ | 0 |
| 19:09.36 | Skittles__ | and that formula gave me the starting |
| 19:09.41 | Vexal | well |
| 19:09.43 | Vexal | okay |
| 19:09.49 | JManV | d = vt + (1/2)at^2 |
| 19:10.00 | Vexal | position = (1/2)*(acceleration)*(time)^2 |
| 19:10.04 | Vexal | if initial speed is 0 |
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| 19:10.09 | Skittles__ | I'm about to do this the ghetto way with if/then/elses... lolz |
| 19:10.26 | Vexal | and |
| 19:10.35 | Vexal | (end speed) + a*t |
| 19:10.43 | JManV | initial v is 0? |
| 19:10.46 | Vexal | oops |
| 19:10.49 | Vexal | end speed = a*t |
| 19:10.55 | Vexal | so |
| 19:11.04 | Vexal | replace a with endspeed / t |
| 19:11.18 | Skittles__ | mmm |
| 19:11.47 | Skittles__ | .5 * ve/t * t^2? |
| 19:11.51 | Vexal | sure, why not |
| 19:11.55 | Skittles__ | lol k |
| 19:12.03 | Vexal | it might be. |
| 19:12.12 | Vexal | although, i thought you had to solve a quadratic |
| 19:12.13 | JManV | :P |
| 19:12.18 | Vexal | i forgot. |
| 19:12.27 | Vexal | i took physics 2 years ago |
| 19:12.35 | Vexal | but if you want another way to think about this |
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| 19:12.54 | Vexal | if you have a position graph, then the slop of position is velocity |
| 19:13.02 | Vexal | so the derivative of position is velocity |
| 19:13.13 | Skittles__ | wait |
| 19:13.13 | Vexal | and the derivative of velocity acceleration. |
| 19:13.17 | Skittles__ | why am i solving for position? |
| 19:13.25 | Vexal | you aren't |
| 19:13.25 | JManV | you're not |
| 19:13.29 | Vexal | you have it already |
| 19:13.32 | JManV | you have position and end velocity |
| 19:13.35 | JManV | correct? |
| 19:13.43 | JManV | and initial velocity is 0 |
| 19:13.45 | Skittles__ | idk what position is suppose to be...? |
| 19:13.47 | Vexal | make sure you do (end position - start position) |
| 19:13.52 | Vexal | you said you know it. |
| 19:13.54 | Skittles__ | yeah |
| 19:13.55 | Skittles__ | distance |
| 19:13.58 | Vexal | yeah |
| 19:14.00 | JManV | yeah |
| 19:14.01 | Vexal | distance. |
| 19:14.03 | Vexal | yeah. |
| 19:14.03 | Skittles__ | distance =/= positon. :( |
| 19:14.10 | Vexal | well |
| 19:14.12 | Skittles__ | position* |
| 19:14.14 | Vexal | it works. |
| 19:14.16 | Skittles__ | lol k |
| 19:14.20 | JManV | so now you do need to solve a quadratic |
| 19:14.22 | Vexal | trust me. |
| 19:14.25 | JManV | because you need t |
| 19:14.29 | Vexal | i've written my own 3d physics engines in c++ and opengl |
| 19:14.33 | Vexal | i know everything. |
| 19:14.59 | Vexal | it's not a quadratic if you plug in v/t for acceleration |
| 19:15.03 | JManV | yeah |
| 19:15.07 | Vexal | because one of the t cancels |
| 19:15.09 | JManV | was just realizing |
| 19:15.13 | JManV | those are *, not _ |
| 19:15.15 | JManV | + |
| 19:15.34 | JManV | so 0.5 * ve * t? |
| 19:15.52 | JManV | d = |
| 19:15.53 | Skittles__ | okay my algebra is failing me. |
| 19:15.54 | Vexal | possibly. |
| 19:15.59 | Vexal | that seems simpler than it should be. |
| 19:16.05 | Vexal | wait, i know |
| 19:16.18 | JManV | 1/t = (0.5 * ve)/d |
| 19:16.26 | JManV | t = d / (0.5 * ve) |
| 19:16.26 | Skittles__ | d/t^2 ... when I try to get d to the other side, I times it and it becomes 1/t^2 = *d right/ |
| 19:16.29 | JManV | if i'm correct |
| 19:16.43 | Vexal | skittles |
| 19:16.46 | Skittles__ | ? |
| 19:16.47 | Vexal | write down these 3 formulas |
| 19:16.50 | Skittles__ | mk |
| 19:17.17 | Vexal | distance = (1/2)*(acceleration)*(time)^2; velocity = acceleration*time; acceleration = acceleration |
| 19:17.28 | Vexal | use the second equation to solve for acceleration |
| 19:17.38 | Vexal | plug that into the 1st equation to replace acceleration |
| 19:17.58 | JManV | yeah, your formula for a seems a little simple |
| 19:18.04 | Skittles__ | I dont have time... so I cant solve for acceleration.. |
| 19:18.09 | Vexal | what |
| 19:18.12 | Vexal | yes you can |
| 19:18.13 | Vexal | look |
| 19:18.15 | Vexal | plug in the symbols |
| 19:18.19 | Vexal | not the numbers |
| 19:18.23 | Vexal | on paper |
| 19:18.25 | Vexal | i told you to write them down |
| 19:18.28 | Vexal | did you write them down? |
| 19:18.34 | Vexal | you'll see one of the "t" cancels |
| 19:18.35 | Skittles__ | yeah... |
| 19:18.47 | Vexal | then solve for t |
| 19:18.55 | Vexal | after you plug it in to the first equation. |
| 19:18.59 | Skittles__ | u also told me before that u messed up on d = 1/2 * a * t^2 |
| 19:19.07 | Skittles__ | u said a was suppose to be ve / t |
| 19:19.19 | JManV | a = (ve - v0) / t => a = ve / t |
| 19:19.33 | Abstruse | im so fucking addicted to caffeine |
| 19:19.39 | JManV | if v0 is 0 |
| 19:19.43 | Abstruse | i just kind of pass out every few hours unless i have it |
| 19:19.53 | Abstruse | and i wake up every few hours since it leaves my system |
| 19:20.07 | Skittles__ | vo is initial? |
| 19:20.19 | JManV | yes |
| 19:20.26 | Skittles__ | I said I found that with a formula... It's not 0. So I keep it right? |
| 19:20.41 | JManV | v0? |
| 19:20.50 | Skittles__ | wow.. |
| 19:20.54 | JManV | if v0 is not 0, then you need to use it, yes |
| 19:20.58 | Skittles__ | This is the very first formula I gave u... lol |
| 19:21.03 | Vexal | well |
| 19:21.11 | Vexal | if it's not zero for initial velocity |
| 19:21.21 | Vexal | then acceleration = velocity_final - velocity_initial |
| 19:21.35 | Vexal | and position = time*velocity_initial + the rest of the stuff |
| 19:21.57 | Skittles__ | I never said I didn't have acceleration. Xd I used a bogus number -.05 because it's a decent speed to use, and it's how I found vi. |
| 19:22.51 | Skittles__ | distnace = time * vi +t^2? |
| 19:22.55 | JManV | http://www.ajdesigner.com/constantacceleration/cavelocity.php |
| 19:23.05 | JManV | decent number of formulas there |
| 19:23.40 | Hati | http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=acceleration&a=*C.acceleration-_*MathWorld- |
| 19:23.55 | Vexal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHSoE5tCnj0 |
| 19:23.58 | Vexal | wtf |
| 19:24.21 | Hati | flashy screen is flashy |
| 19:24.57 | Vexal | dumbest video i've ever seen |
| 19:24.57 | Skittles__ | uh |
| 19:25.04 | Vexal | i'm embarrassed to see a video of my map posted like that |
| 19:25.08 | Hati | there are way more stupid vids |
| 19:25.09 | Vexal | also, he played in single player and used cheats |
| 19:25.10 | Vexal | the bastard |
| 19:25.12 | Skittles__ | t = ve-vo / -.05 didn't work when I used it. Xd |
| 19:25.42 | Hati | for what type of accel ? |
| 19:25.54 | Hati | or what are you expecting as results |
| 19:26.03 | Skittles__ | this video hurts my eyes |
| 19:26.19 | JManV | that is disgusting |
| 19:26.36 | Vexal | and the music |
| 19:26.39 | Skittles__ | Xd |
| 19:26.42 | Skittles__ | I disliekd it |
| 19:26.44 | Skittles__ | disliked |
| 19:26.52 | JManV | i'm having seizures |
| 19:26.57 | Vexal | did you see my comment |
| 19:27.13 | JademusSreg | What the fuck? |
| 19:27.21 | grim001 | neato |
| 19:27.32 | grim001 | now I've got a working TimedEvent system written in basic Galaxy |
| 19:27.50 | JademusSreg | Nice. Time to post it? |
| 19:27.51 | grim001 | void TimedEvent (int value, int func, fixed duration) |
| 19:28.14 | Deaod | function pointers? |
| 19:28.15 | grim001 | value is the data that will be passed to the func, func is the function pointer value, duration is obvious |
| 19:28.21 | Deaod | did i miss something? |
| 19:28.33 | grim001 | the downside is that you need to manually maintain the function pointer table for the system |
| 19:28.48 | *** join/#sc2mapster Demonette (b206fdb9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.178.6.253.185) |
| 19:28.52 | grim001 | but it's not honestly that difficult |
| 19:29.02 | Demonette | Hi all |
| 19:29.08 | JademusSreg | Actual pointers or simulated pointers? |
| 19:29.10 | JademusSreg | Hihi |
| 19:29.11 | Skittles__ | back |
| 19:29.13 | Deaod | oh, so it probably uses triggers |
| 19:29.20 | Vexal | sounds like you just implemented our 3rd assembly project in my intro to assembly class. |
| 19:29.28 | JademusSreg | If the former, I'd be boggled and pleased. |
| 19:29.34 | Skittles__ | ur comment isn't there vex |
| 19:29.37 | Vexal | what |
| 19:29.39 | Vexal | why not |
| 19:29.42 | Skittles__ | on his video? |
| 19:29.45 | Skittles__ | idk, maybe he deleted it |
| 19:30.01 | Deaod | or he needs to approve comments before it shows them |
| 19:30.13 | Vexal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFGJgDv5kaU |
| 19:30.15 | Vexal | here, this one. |
| 19:30.23 | Vexal | it's even worse. |
| 19:30.24 | Skittles__ | i think this formula isn't working because im not using constant accel |
| 19:30.31 | Vexal | skittles, if you're not |
| 19:30.32 | Vexal | then |
| 19:30.41 | Hati | Vexal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bmhjf0rKe8 |
| 19:30.57 | JManV | why is it blinking like that? |
| 19:31.02 | Vexal | no idea |
| 19:31.18 | grim001 | what would be the difference between "actual pointers" or "simulated pointers" |
| 19:31.19 | Hati | more dramatic |
| 19:31.24 | grim001 | bearing in mind that I'm writing in plain galaxy |
| 19:31.26 | Vexal | skittles: add a "t" to your acceleration function |
| 19:31.30 | Skittles__ | lol i want that kitty |
| 19:31.30 | Vexal | then you have to solve a quadratic |
| 19:31.40 | Hati | real pointers are real; while simulated ones are fake |
| 19:31.49 | Hati | and just work like pointers but are no pointers |
| 19:31.53 | Deaod | simulated pointers are indices of array entries of triggers that are executed to run a function- |
| 19:31.58 | Vexal | i do the same thing when people touch my stomach. |
| 19:32.01 | JademusSreg | Write. By actual pointers, I mean "wtf galaxy reenabled support for pointers? when did this happen?" |
| 19:32.12 | Skittles__ | quadratic? Xd I remember and dont remember those. Xd |
| 19:32.25 | JManV | searching for vids of your game vex? |
| 19:32.30 | Vexal | i occasionally do that |
| 19:32.36 | Vexal | just to gauge how popular i am |
| 19:32.37 | grim001 | it doesn't use triggers, it just runs the functions in the same thread. although I suppose if you wanted to maintain an even uglier table there could be support for that. |
| 19:32.44 | Vexal | surprisingly few results, considering the map's been on the first page a while. |
| 19:32.54 | Vexal | i'm dissappointed. |
| 19:33.16 | grim001 | you don't need to use triggers unless you MUST reset the opcount |
| 19:33.16 | Skittles__ | lol |
| 19:33.16 | Deaod | hrm. |
| 19:33.16 | grim001 | because galaxy has forward declarations of funcs |
| 19:33.21 | Deaod | that does sound awesome, mind sharing the code? |
| 19:34.23 | JManV | a couple of spastic vids is all you can find? |
| 19:36.12 | Vexal | yup. |
| 19:36.14 | Vexal | how depressing. |
| 19:36.49 | Vexal | "vexal tower defense" doesn't even show up in google trends. |
| 19:40.22 | JManV | you don't have a page at all for your map? |
| 19:40.34 | JManV | most of the first-pagers have homepages |
| 19:41.20 | Dekar | complete homepages? |
| 19:41.22 | grim001 | got a little bit of work to do before I post the code, but it works just fine |
| 19:41.23 | Dekar | or just forums |
| 19:41.26 | Dekar | ? |
| 19:42.14 | JManV | some are forum only |
| 19:42.25 | JManV | but their independant site usually |
| 19:42.28 | JManV | they're |
| 19:42.37 | Skittles__ | btw thanks for trying to help |
| 19:43.00 | JManV | you didn't get anywhere? |
| 19:43.16 | Skittles__ | eh |
| 19:43.26 | Skittles__ | found out my time wasn't wrong.. |
| 19:43.30 | Skittles__ | my initial is wrong |
| 19:43.32 | Skittles__ | it's always 1 |
| 19:43.35 | Skittles__ | which makes no sense |
| 19:43.38 | grim001 | OK, I'll post it now |
| 19:44.01 | grim001 | http://pastebin.com/ZVkERmr5 |
| 19:44.07 | Skittles__ | cause the formula with dummy numbers wont be giving me 1 always |
| 19:45.06 | Vexal | JManV: i don't bother |
| 19:45.15 | Vexal | the only real benefit to having a website would be ad money |
| 19:45.18 | Vexal | which i don't care for. |
| 19:45.39 | Vexal | i just posted my facebook in the loading screen, and if people want to comment on the map, they can use that or email me. |
| 19:45.53 | Vexal | posting my facebook was a huge mistake. i at least should have used an alias or something instead of my real life facebook. |
| 19:45.59 | grim001 | as far as I know, that method is the only way to accurately handle timed events for SC2, and I'd need an entirely new copy of a queue if I wanted to support game time as well as real time, but that's not much of an issue |
| 19:46.19 | JManV | heh |
| 19:46.22 | JManV | i can see that |
| 19:46.25 | grim001 | conversion between gametime and realtime sucks because of fixed math sucking |
| 19:46.26 | Skittles__ | tbh vex |
| 19:46.30 | grim001 | never accurate enough |
| 19:46.37 | Deaod | oh |
| 19:46.39 | Skittles__ | u would probably not make money off a website |
| 19:46.44 | Skittles__ | cause ads give very little |
| 19:46.49 | JManV | no most of the ad money goes to host |
| 19:46.50 | Deaod | so its just a if elseif |
| 19:46.52 | Deaod | meh. |
| 19:46.55 | Skittles__ | and it costs money to have 1 |
| 19:47.02 | Vexal | i have a domain. |
| 19:47.21 | Vexal | i use it for this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAcgN3dY3-c |
| 19:47.33 | grim001 | well, any other method won't manifest any benefits until you have tons of pointers added, and it'd become difficult to manage manually |
| 19:47.39 | JManV | i just found its curious cuz most first page maps have sites... it cool that your's doesn't |
| 19:48.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bounty (442d304d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.68.45.48.77) |
| 19:48.02 | JademusSreg | Grim, I know how you feel about the fixed point suckiness. |
| 19:48.06 | Bounty | >< |
| 19:48.13 | Vexal | i don't see any real benefit to the player to have a website |
| 19:48.20 | Bounty | Hey Vex |
| 19:48.21 | Vexal | it'd just be for me to whore attention. |
| 19:48.23 | Vexal | hello. |
| 19:48.24 | grim001 | it makes me wonder if my physics engine won't just blow up due to inaccurate math |
| 19:48.25 | JademusSreg | I wrote several Ln functions, and the accuracy on all of them was unbelievably shitty. |
| 19:48.26 | JManV | mostly just player feedback |
| 19:48.29 | Bounty | did you see the map i chose to make? |
| 19:48.31 | Bounty | =P |
| 19:48.33 | JManV | if you're already getting that, no reason |
| 19:48.39 | Vexal | nope, Bounty |
| 19:48.40 | Bounty | I went with PvE |
| 19:48.43 | JManV | sometimes for players to organize tourneys |
| 19:48.46 | Bounty | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-NDQP-ErGk&feature=player_embedded |
| 19:48.46 | JManV | or group play |
| 19:48.54 | Vexal | grim001, how detailed of a physics engine? rigid body collisions? |
| 19:48.59 | Bounty | So far the video is getting nothing but praise |
| 19:49.06 | Bounty | on TL |
| 19:49.15 | Vexal | how come it has 0 likes |
| 19:49.20 | Dekar | Vexal what does that device do when the server is turned off? D: |
| 19:49.24 | Bounty | shrug |
| 19:49.27 | Dekar | cant turn on the light anymore? ^^ |
| 19:49.33 | Bounty | people liking it on Teamliquid forums though |
| 19:49.33 | grim001 | Jademus, does that look like the kind of system you'd make use of in a complex map? |
| 19:49.43 | Vexal | well, Dekar , i gave the link out to some of my friends |
| 19:49.56 | Dekar | ooh, post it here |
| 19:49.56 | Vexal | my dad made disconenct it all because he thought it was a fire hazard |
| 19:50.01 | Dekar | what could go wrong |
| 19:50.06 | Vexal | nothing. |
| 19:50.13 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 19:50.19 | Bounty | Should you decide to watch the video, feel free to tell me what u think Vexal |
| 19:50.41 | JademusSreg | Fairly trivial to configure for anyone who knows how to use galaxy. |
| 19:51.03 | Dekar | grim001 are you on EU? |
| 19:51.49 | grim001 | Dekar, no |
| 19:51.56 | grim001 | going AFK for lunch now |
| 19:52.16 | Bounty | First half of the video shows how the combo system works |
| 19:52.27 | Bounty | Pure epicness starts at about 1:42 |
| 19:52.29 | Bounty | =P |
| 19:53.09 | grim001 | It'd probably be better to create some library/template for dealing with function pointers throughout your entire map, but I haven't done that yet |
| 19:53.47 | Vexal | Bounty i watched it |
| 19:54.00 | Bounty | Watcha think so far? |
| 19:54.06 | Vexal | it's interesting |
| 19:54.13 | Vexal | how well does it control? |
| 19:54.17 | Bounty | I alrdy have the mechanics for the boss fight, i just didnt add them in yet |
| 19:54.18 | Vexal | i'm skeptical of anything that uses wasd and mouse |
| 19:54.33 | Bounty | on bnet it has the least amount of wasd lag u can get |
| 19:54.35 | Bounty | funny thing is |
| 19:54.37 | Vexal | but |
| 19:54.42 | Vexal | least doesn't imply acceptable |
| 19:54.47 | Bounty | the mouse and space bar... almostno lag lol |
| 19:55.00 | Bounty | ok well |
| 19:55.02 | Vexal | how do you think players will react to the combos |
| 19:55.02 | Bounty | its acceptable |
| 19:55.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:55.09 | Vexal | do you think they'll find it too clunky and tedious |
| 19:55.11 | Vexal | or will they enjoy it |
| 19:55.17 | Bounty | they will enjoy it |
| 19:55.25 | Bounty | u will have full access to a list of combos for ur class |
| 19:55.30 | JademusSreg | People love combos. |
| 19:55.33 | JManV | not a big fan of wasd here either |
| 19:56.06 | JManV | i've very disappointed with how poorly it works even for a slow-paced game like mine |
| 19:56.10 | Vexal | the lack of multiplayer mouse / keyboard support makes it seem like sc2 is a waste of aperfectly good game engine |
| 19:56.12 | Bounty | i think my Win the Crowd videos prooved you can have a great pve co op game with wasd |
| 19:56.18 | JademusSreg | It's a scientifically demonstrated fact, given the popularity of fighting games with combos, and the near non existence of fighting games without combos. |
| 19:56.25 | Vexal | how come you never released it, Bounty |
| 19:56.32 | Vexal | hmm. |
| 19:56.32 | Bounty | map file size |
| 19:56.39 | Vexal | how big was it? |
| 19:56.41 | Bounty | i need atleast 20MB to finish Win the Crowd |
| 19:56.43 | Bounty | max |
| 19:56.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:56.49 | Vexal | what for |
| 19:56.53 | Vexal | can't you just deal with the default models |
| 19:56.57 | Bounty | models, music |
| 19:57.03 | Bounty | yeah |
| 19:57.07 | Bounty | but not on Win the Crowd |
| 19:57.09 | Vexal | i think most people play with sc2 music turned off |
| 19:57.24 | Bounty | not on my maps lol |
| 19:57.27 | Bounty | i always remind people |
| 19:57.42 | Bounty | that it has custom music that adds to the experience |
| 19:57.49 | Bounty | they love it :) |
| 19:58.04 | *** join/#sc2mapster pirate (8e01b0d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.142.1.176.212) |
| 19:58.09 | Vexal | i suppose if you add a message remindijng players. |
| 19:58.13 | Bounty | UI wise the only thing not in that video is the entire parties HP |
| 19:58.22 | JManV | alwyas trying to break through boundries, bounty |
| 19:58.23 | Vexal | you're really good at that. |
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| 21:45.14 | Clord | http://scladder.com/ |
| 21:45.18 | Clord | this place still exist in internet |
| 21:45.19 | Clord | lol |
| 21:46.14 | JademusSreg | "Where no stat goes unchecked so your ego doesn't have to." |
| 21:46.36 | Dekar | oh yeah, my map has 25 popularity |
| 21:46.38 | Dekar | xD |
| 21:46.43 | JademusSreg | Probably not a very good slogan. |
| 21:47.02 | Shawn|Rawr | Thats an amazing slogan |
| 21:47.04 | Clord | hehe |
| 21:47.07 | Clord | first it is about ego |
| 21:47.11 | Clord | then it is about money and ego |
| 21:47.52 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 21:48.15 | Dekar | #34691euIn Case of Earthquake, Go Gadget Legs Go! |
| 21:48.21 | Dekar | cool map name |
| 21:48.34 | Dekar | lets play that |
| 21:48.37 | Dekar | it must be a cool map |
| 21:49.01 | JademusSreg | Bewildering. |
| 21:49.02 | Clord | 1.3.0 |
| 21:49.05 | Clord | week later |
| 21:49.06 | Clord | result |
| 21:49.08 | Clord | same maps on top |
| 21:49.10 | Clord | gg ^^ |
| 21:49.17 | Clord | the prediction ;) |
| 21:49.24 | JademusSreg | I concur. |
| 21:49.28 | Dekar | but buuuut |
| 21:49.41 | Dekar | we can switch to the coolest unpopular maps view then? |
| 21:49.55 | Clord | hehe |
| 21:49.58 | Dekar | clord, you are on us too, arent you? |
| 21:49.59 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 21:50.05 | Clord | well... less popular maps will get played at least somewhat |
| 21:50.09 | Clord | EU |
| 21:50.10 | Dekar | can you tell if it fills open lobbys? |
| 21:50.15 | Dekar | hm |
| 21:50.25 | Dekar | someone had to test that by now |
| 21:50.49 | Clord | lol but |
| 21:50.56 | Dekar | if it creates new lobbys and/or fills open lobbys |
| 21:50.58 | Clord | most are worrying balance changes |
| 21:51.02 | Clord | instead actual feature additions |
| 21:51.04 | Clord | XD |
| 21:51.07 | Dekar | :/ |
| 21:51.15 | Clord | yeah |
| 21:51.18 | Clord | if it works smartly |
| 21:51.23 | Clord | it picks any map from database |
| 21:51.24 | Clord | they have |
| 21:51.27 | Clord | and fills it |
| 21:51.29 | Dekar | custom games, the red haired stepchild of sc2 |
| 21:52.14 | Dekar | is thehelper.net screwed up? i only see the text on the page |
| 21:52.45 | Clord | was that place worth something somepoint? |
| 21:53.09 | Dekar | not often i guess |
| 21:53.24 | Dekar | if ever |
| 21:54.16 | Dekar | is hive catching up on mapster? |
| 21:54.29 | Clord | lovely how some places like maps and mods not protect itself against bots downloading files |
| 21:54.30 | Clord | lol |
| 21:54.45 | Clord | gives truly accurate results |
| 21:54.48 | Clord | for download counts |
| 21:56.12 | Clord | also |
| 21:56.18 | Clord | google hates that site time to time |
| 21:56.21 | Clord | flagging it dangerous |
| 21:56.24 | JademusSreg | Hive is not catching up to mapster in terms of SC2 development. |
| 21:56.33 | Clord | http://war3.incgamers.com/ |
| 21:56.38 | JademusSreg | But there is a lot of lateral exchange there. |
| 21:56.46 | Clord | hehe yeah |
| 21:56.51 | Clord | I saw one possibly popular map |
| 21:56.55 | Clord | what advertised hiveworkshop |
| 21:57.00 | Clord | and ignored sc2mapster existance |
| 21:57.35 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 21:58.35 | Dekar | The Wolf's has reborn in Forest, You can survive? |
| 21:58.39 | Clord | http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/sc2res.php |
| 21:58.57 | Clord | I think it was this map http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/sc2-resources-675/wintermaul-remake-182953/ |
| 21:59.21 | JademusSreg | "The Wolf's has reborn in Forest, You can survive?" Hahahaha |
| 21:59.23 | Clord | ps.... their moderators for review stuff are jokes |
| 21:59.25 | nicoli_s | its funny i remember when hiveworkshop was just a place for one particular war3 campaign |
| 21:59.41 | JademusSreg | Sounds like SwedishChef wrote that quote. |
| 21:59.50 | Dekar | that dragon thing! |
| 22:00.16 | Dekar | hmm, i played it and then it totally screwed up because i loaded an older save |
| 22:00.43 | Clord | one of downsides of hiveworkshop at least in past has been overmoderation.... and what was worst was to get moderator approved with their own "I have been playing it five seconds" reviews |
| 22:00.53 | Clord | to trash map before it has chance to shine XD |
| 22:02.13 | JademusSreg | I prefer wc3c quality. We elitist jerks are proud to present this map no one plays. |
| 22:02.35 | JademusSreg | I jest. |
| 22:02.35 | Clord | =) |
| 22:02.43 | JademusSreg | I enjoy the quality, though. |
| 22:03.02 | Clord | oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooh yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssss. Kane LIVES! |
| 22:03.04 | Clord | XD |
| 22:03.07 | Clord | random I know ^^ |
| 22:03.37 | Clord | http://www.commandandconquer.com/ |
| 22:03.58 | Dekar | oh god |
| 22:04.18 | Dekar | i hoped they would burn and bury what remains of cnc |
| 22:05.12 | JademusSreg | I've stated before my feelings about C&C games: cool ideas, poor implementation. |
| 22:06.00 | JademusSreg | Like the white paper they had done for tiberium during the development of C&C3. |
| 22:06.04 | JademusSreg | So cool. |
| 22:06.17 | Clord | EA resurrected it again |
| 22:06.24 | Clord | I mean production for mor C&C |
| 22:06.27 | Clord | more... |
| 22:06.34 | Clord | Victory Games was formed |
| 22:06.38 | Clord | to push more C&C games |
| 22:07.17 | Dekar | OH HAI GUIS I HAV NEW IDEA FOR CNC: LETS REPLACE ALL EVIL THINGS WITH PONYS |
| 22:07.28 | Clord | C&C4 is actually good game in multiplayer mode.. especially with max lethality to make counters actually feel effective |
| 22:07.50 | Clord | default lethality rate it is horrible XD |
| 22:07.57 | Dekar | command and cherish: pony farm |
| 22:08.38 | Dekar | by reducing the amount of killing we can reach a far larger target group! |
| 22:08.44 | Dekar | 0 year olds playing cnc! |
| 22:08.55 | Dekar | we will make millions! |
| 22:09.06 | Dekar | and dont forget to dumb it down some more for all the casuals |
| 22:09.10 | Dekar | xD |
| 22:09.13 | Clord | XD |
| 22:09.16 | Clord | but yeah |
| 22:09.21 | Clord | it is surprisingly well made for multiplayer |
| 22:09.27 | Clord | but they forgot to work more with campaign |
| 22:09.44 | Dekar | what game is cnc4? |
| 22:09.49 | Dekar | is it the one without bases? |
| 22:09.56 | Dekar | or the mobile |
| 22:09.58 | Dekar | crawler |
| 22:10.00 | Dekar | stuff |
| 22:10.17 | grim001 | back |
| 22:10.25 | Clord | yeah |
| 22:10.32 | Clord | C&C4 where Kane wins |
| 22:10.37 | Clord | canonically |
| 22:11.58 | JademusSreg | I hate C&C4 more than Generals. |
| 22:12.11 | Clord | if they would have added that crawler can build more structures than just defensive ones... it would really have been better received |
| 22:12.17 | JademusSreg | It was an abomination. |
| 22:12.19 | Clord | like pop cap increasing structures |
| 22:12.21 | Dekar | cnc4: at least there are no stupid harvester? |
| 22:12.35 | JademusSreg | They just wanted to copy DoW. |
| 22:12.41 | JademusSreg | =) |
| 22:12.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster MrOp (~MrOp@76.76.73.7) |
| 22:12.54 | Clord | then they missed what made DoW good lol |
| 22:12.59 | Dekar | they shouldnt ruin a franchise with revolutionary new systems |
| 22:13.09 | MrOp | hi |
| 22:13.13 | Dekar | hi |
| 22:13.20 | Clord | what makes DoW 2 good is retreat button |
| 22:13.21 | Clord | ^^ |
| 22:13.27 | Dekar | lol |
| 22:13.33 | Clord | you can play chicken and then tactically win the match |
| 22:13.40 | Dekar | we germans talked aobut that retreat button today too |
| 22:13.41 | Dekar | >_< |
| 22:13.43 | Clord | while more stubborn players kill their units |
| 22:13.58 | Clord | or try to retreat too late |
| 22:14.41 | Clord | hehe... many times I almost hoped that allies disconnect |
| 22:14.45 | Clord | so I get better AI players to help me |
| 22:17.40 | Clord | still.... Red Alert 2 and 3 campaigns ftw |
| 22:17.56 | Clord | nothing like nuking weirdo's Transylvania castle |
| 22:17.59 | Clord | XD |
| 22:18.45 | Clord | aah Red Alert 4 is then probably as joke |
| 22:18.49 | Clord | Dino army attacks from past |
| 22:19.01 | Clord | and weird makes third attempt to take over the world |
| 22:19.07 | Clord | weirdo |
| 22:19.11 | JademusSreg | All the missions were "Kill all the dudes" or "Destroy that thing" or "Survive a bunch of shit, then kill all the dudes". |
| 22:19.40 | Clord | hehe |
| 22:19.50 | JademusSreg | The only enjoyable missions I've played in C&C were the command squad type missions, no building, just guys and guns. |
| 22:19.59 | Clord | oh and plot device TM |
| 22:20.06 | JademusSreg | Oh, yeah, of course. |
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| 22:20.22 | MrOp | hay jade |
| 22:20.41 | Clord | "pull this switch and world is conquered an almost instant".. but wait "first I gotta broadcast it to entire world so they can try counterattack to ruin this 100% success rate plan!" |
| 22:20.41 | Clord | XD |
| 22:20.48 | MrOp | did you find a way to get black mask reenabled |
| 22:21.10 | Clord | Yuri really falls to evil scientist problem |
| 22:21.16 | Clord | they tell their plans too soon |
| 22:21.44 | JademusSreg | "On paper, it's an interesting twist on the RTS genre, and it certainly has promise. The execution, however, is where the game entirely falls apart." This summarizes C&C series perfectly. |
| 22:21.59 | JademusSreg | It's an excerpt from a review. |
| 22:22.48 | Clord | while nothing is literally perfect |
| 22:22.57 | Clord | it has had it's good and bad releases |
| 22:22.59 | Clord | but whatever ^^ |
| 22:23.02 | Clord | every game was free ;) |
| 22:23.11 | Clord | oh but I bended over onepoint and bought them |
| 22:23.14 | Clord | with first decade |
| 22:23.23 | Clord | and red alert 2 I bought too onepoint before that |
| 22:23.41 | JademusSreg | Anyway, the biggest problem with C&C4 is that you have fucking experience level shit that you need to unlock tech in multiplayer. That's imbalanced bullshit that punishes new players. Which is basically the same problem I have with LoL; it's all metagame bullshit. |
| 22:23.51 | Clord | oh and C&C3........ C&C4.... XD |
| 22:24.07 | Clord | hehe |
| 22:24.14 | JademusSreg | That's enough rage over a shitty game. Moving on. =) |
| 22:24.14 | Clord | it is like CoD series excuse for level unlocks |
| 22:24.24 | Clord | "it gives more options, not gameplay advantages" |
| 22:24.25 | Clord | XD |
| 22:24.29 | Clord | CoD bullshit ;) |
| 22:25.00 | Clord | real result... most use same overpowered weapons and they are tried and proven |
| 22:25.03 | JademusSreg | The only unlockable options multiplayer should ever have is non-essential, stuff that doesn't impact gameplay. |
| 22:25.18 | Clord | technically everything impacts gameplay when it comes to unlocks |
| 22:25.23 | Clord | use new shiny skin |
| 22:25.28 | Clord | and you get probably targeted more often |
| 22:25.29 | Clord | XD |
| 22:25.37 | Clord | or people focus less to game |
| 22:25.44 | Clord | and just looks your skin and asks stupid questions |
| 22:25.50 | JademusSreg | Haha, touche. |
| 22:26.12 | Clord | even visually changing unlocks impact the match |
| 22:26.19 | Clord | as long other players are not only AI |
| 22:26.20 | Clord | XD |
| 22:27.42 | Clord | but yeah |
| 22:27.55 | Clord | have skin what makes you flashlight in dark |
| 22:27.57 | Clord | and see what happens |
| 22:27.58 | Clord | lol |
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| 22:35.02 | Skittles__ | I just got a job interview. =D |
| 22:35.24 | Shawn|Rawr | At Riot Games? |
| 22:35.26 | Skittles__ | 8 dollars an hour ftw! |
| 22:35.28 | Skittles__ | lol |
| 22:35.33 | Skittles__ | Home depot. |
| 22:35.41 | Shawn|Rawr | Even almost the same! |
| 22:35.46 | Skittles__ | Indeed! |
| 22:35.52 | MrOp | hay skit how di dyour interveiw go |
| 22:36.16 | Skittles__ | rescheduled it to a different home depot just now. |
| 22:36.40 | MrOp | hay does anyone know about camera movement |
| 22:36.50 | MrOp | and how to get smooth camera movement |
| 22:37.20 | MrOp | shawn do you have any ideas |
| 22:37.40 | MrOp | those really wiggle pipes i have like 6-7 cameras |
| 22:38.02 | MrOp | and its jaring when ever they switch |
| 22:38.09 | JademusSreg | Congrats. |
| 22:38.10 | MrOp | or take a sharp bend |
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| 22:40.18 | Skittles__ | I don't know much about camera's. |
| 22:40.31 | MrOp | o |
| 22:40.43 | MrOp | those condtions you added worked |
| 22:40.47 | MrOp | idk what i did wrong |
| 22:40.55 | MrOp | but thanks |
| 22:55.01 | grim001 | are any special characters other than _ or numbers accepted within galaxy variable names? |
| 22:55.46 | grim001 | also, anyone want to provide input on a naming convention for function pointer tables with various signatures? |
| 22:57.15 | Dekar | start everything with poo_ |
| 22:57.27 | Dekar | poo like poointer |
| 22:57.34 | Dekar | objcts |
| 22:57.36 | Dekar | yeah |
| 22:57.39 | Dekar | pointer objects |
| 22:59.18 | Dekar | i should write less poo and work more |
| 22:59.19 | Dekar | :[ |
| 22:59.42 | poo_Shawn|Rawr | You should pay me to do your job |
| 23:00.57 | Dekar | nah |
| 23:01.33 | Shawn|Rawr | You should get me a job where you work? |
| 23:01.55 | Dekar | im student |
| 23:01.56 | Dekar | i dont work |
| 23:02.09 | Shawn|Rawr | Oh. Damn. |
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| 23:02.27 | JademusSreg | grim, no, just _ and numbers, and they can't start with numbers. |
| 23:02.36 | Shawn|Rawr | I always though Dark High Templar = Dark Templar.. apparently not so |
| 23:02.53 | Dekar | its the dark protoss version! dum dum dum |
| 23:05.13 | Shawn|Rawr | Someone make a Dark Kerrigan so we can make up a story about how the Protoss took her over and she corrupted their minds or summt |
| 23:06.39 | Shawn|Rawr | Or at least a protoss-ish version of her |
| 23:06.47 | grim001 | Jademus what do you think should be the convention for invoking a function pointer of a given signature |
| 23:06.57 | grim001 | the function name that is |
| 23:08.32 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
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| 23:09.51 | Vexal | hello everyone. |
| 23:10.06 | Bounty | Bibendus, in the mood to critique? =P |
| 23:10.14 | Bounty | Hello Vex |
| 23:10.15 | grim001 | I believe that the function name should contain the signature you're invoking, otherwise there'd be no easy way to keep track of which one you're trying to use |
| 23:10.23 | Bibendus | nah |
| 23:10.28 | Bibendus | :D |
| 23:10.31 | grim001 | and you need some sort of separator character character in there between the return and parameters |
| 23:10.33 | Bounty | lol ok |
| 23:10.51 | grim001 | so it'll have to be something like "Bool_Int(int func)" |
| 23:11.06 | Bounty | Incase you change your mind Bibendus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-NDQP-ErGk |
| 23:11.07 | Bounty | =) |
| 23:11.07 | grim001 | or "Eval_Bool2Int(int func)" |
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| 23:11.13 | grim001 | or something equally ugly |
| 23:11.56 | Bibendus | what did u place in this marauders ass? |
| 23:11.56 | Bibendus | xD |
| 23:12.07 | Bounty | ? |
| 23:12.10 | Bounty | what do you mean lol |
| 23:13.32 | Bibendus | dunno |
| 23:13.38 | Bibendus | strange model |
| 23:13.42 | Bibendus | with cannons on his back |
| 23:13.42 | Bibendus | :D |
| 23:13.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:14.11 | Bounty | well hes only one of six characters so |
| 23:14.31 | JademusSreg | grim, I think that signature suffices, though I would use 2 _ |
| 23:14.43 | Vexal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFGJgDv5kaU |
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| 23:15.08 | Bibendus | btw |
| 23:15.14 | Bibendus | today my hatchery got life |
| 23:15.20 | Dekar | yey |
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| 23:15.37 | Bibendus | i almost cried |
| 23:15.44 | Bibendus | that was soo beautiful |
| 23:15.46 | Dekar | :O |
| 23:15.50 | Dekar | video |
| 23:15.51 | Dekar | ! |
| 23:16.04 | JademusSreg | It's ugly, sure, but conventions like that are expected to be ugly; it's what we get for not having a language extension to handle things, I suppose. |
| 23:16.12 | Bibendus | first i need monsters eating from it :P |
| 23:16.40 | Bibendus | they are soo good boys that now they are able to sleep |
| 23:16.57 | Dekar | its nice when they dont wake up in the night to cry anymore |
| 23:17.13 | Skittles__ | Vexal |
| 23:17.13 | JademusSreg | Bool__Int(int func) is clearer, as two underscores make the signature more distinct. |
| 23:17.20 | Vexal | yeah? |
| 23:17.21 | Skittles__ | You know every time u link that... it gets more views |
| 23:17.23 | Dekar | hatchery = chicken farm? |
| 23:17.27 | Vexal | so? |
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| 23:17.30 | Vexal | you don't get anything from views |
| 23:17.38 | Vexal | do? |
| 23:17.39 | Icebane | Heya guys! :D |
| 23:17.44 | Dekar | hi |
| 23:17.45 | Skittles__ | u really want people to see it? |
| 23:17.51 | Vexal | i thought it's hilarious |
| 23:18.00 | Dekar | its flickering |
| 23:18.05 | Vexal | it's just awful |
| 23:18.05 | Vexal | here |
| 23:18.07 | Skittles__ | If it gets popular at a quick enough rate it, it gets more advertisement |
| 23:18.07 | Bounty | bib, what do you think of the combat system? |
| 23:18.07 | Vexal | look at this |
| 23:18.15 | Skittles__ | lol |
| 23:18.18 | Bibendus | bounty i just don't care in this moment :P |
| 23:18.25 | Bounty | lol alright |
| 23:18.28 | Vexal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBj3u5dPgM |
| 23:18.28 | Skittles__ | bib did u ever finsih |
| 23:18.30 | Vexal | here's a better video |
| 23:18.34 | Skittles__ | finish dungeon w/e |
| 23:18.35 | Icebane | I just passed a milestone! From now on I'll start doing my 84 spells and 800 items on my map! :D I'm so happy the code-structure of the lot is almost finished! |
| 23:18.36 | Icebane | :D |
| 23:18.42 | Icebane | I just had to tell someone |
| 23:18.44 | Icebane | I've been working hard |
| 23:18.50 | Bibendus | i have to make history in sc2 mapping |
| 23:18.51 | Bibendus | :P |
| 23:18.58 | Vexal | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrBj3u5dPgM |
| 23:19.00 | Bibendus | dungeon W/e? |
| 23:19.00 | Skittles__ | hmm |
| 23:19.04 | Skittles__ | yeah |
| 23:19.05 | Vexal | did you watch the video |
| 23:19.09 | Skittles__ | Forgot the name. |
| 23:19.32 | Bibendus | dungeon keeper |
| 23:19.33 | Bibendus | hive keeper |
| 23:19.34 | Bibendus | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/hive-keeper/pages/main/ |
| 23:19.41 | Skittles__ | yeah that |
| 23:19.43 | Bibendus | i just updated the % status of developement |
| 23:19.53 | Skittles__ | vexal how has that gotten a million views and nto been deleted @.@ |
| 23:20.02 | Vexal | what do you mean |
| 23:20.05 | Dekar | hatchery = chicken farm? |
| 23:20.06 | Vexal | why would it be deleted |
| 23:20.11 | Bibendus | ye |
| 23:21.04 | Dekar | i like how your worker ai progress sums up to 57% |
| 23:21.25 | JademusSreg | grim, I forgot to ping you, since I expect you'll otherwise be too busy to notice what I wrote. |
| 23:21.28 | Skittles__ | it shows a dick lol |
| 23:21.32 | Skittles__ | multiple times |
| 23:21.32 | Bibendus | wtf lol |
| 23:21.41 | Bibendus | and an ass |
| 23:21.42 | Bibendus | xD |
| 23:21.45 | Skittles__ | NO |
| 23:21.46 | Skittles__ | A BUM |
| 23:22.01 | Vexal | so |
| 23:22.02 | Vexal | that's allowed |
| 23:22.08 | Skittles__ | no way? lol |
| 23:22.11 | Vexal | it makes you confirm you're over 18 if you're not logged in |
| 23:22.11 | Vexal | yeah |
| 23:22.17 | Skittles__ | oh? |
| 23:22.27 | Skittles__ | if u go to flag |
| 23:22.30 | Skittles__ | it lets u flag nudity |
| 23:22.41 | Vexal | well |
| 23:22.45 | Vexal | i suppose if you're a faggot prude |
| 23:22.48 | Vexal | you can flag it nudity. |
| 23:22.54 | Vexal | but i don't think they'll take action in this case. |
| 23:23.04 | Vexal | it's more for flagging pornography |
| 23:23.22 | Bibendus | cuz |
| 23:23.22 | Bibendus | * 0% Gold harvest |
| 23:23.22 | Bibendus | * 0% Prisoner transportation (prison) |
| 23:23.22 | Bibendus | * 0% Corpse transportation (graveyard) |
| 23:23.24 | Bibendus | is missing |
| 23:23.24 | Skittles__ | i c |
| 23:23.25 | Bibendus | ;) |
| 23:23.27 | Bibendus | so its 57% |
| 23:23.42 | Dekar | with random weights maybe |
| 23:23.43 | Dekar | :P |
| 23:23.48 | Bibendus | no weights |
| 23:23.57 | Bibendus | sum all |
| 23:23.57 | Bibendus | and divide |
| 23:24.07 | Bibendus | 4/7 |
| 23:24.08 | Bibendus | :D |
| 23:24.10 | JademusSreg | This is the internet, chaps; there is no better place for sophomoric humor than these unhallow halls and tubes. |
| 23:24.11 | Dekar | oh snap |
| 23:24.13 | Dekar | you are right |
| 23:24.21 | Bibendus | there is a random percentage somewhere |
| 23:24.22 | Bibendus | but who cares :D |
| 23:24.29 | Dekar | you hopefully add disco inferno for jackpot |
| 23:24.36 | Dekar | its the best thing of the whole game |
| 23:24.44 | Bibendus | actually |
| 23:24.50 | Skittles__ | yeesh |
| 23:24.51 | Bibendus | i was searching for some cover |
| 23:24.54 | Bibendus | with no copyright |
| 23:24.57 | Bibendus | but that'z hard to find :D |
| 23:24.58 | Skittles__ | idk how this trigger is messing up as it is |
| 23:25.07 | Skittles__ | it's just so random and only happens sometimes |
| 23:25.21 | Bibendus | you don't want a map banned for a song right? |
| 23:25.21 | Bibendus | :P |
| 23:25.24 | Icebane | Bibendus: I love your project :D |
| 23:25.26 | JademusSreg | Someone make a Keyboard Hero map. |
| 23:25.35 | JademusSreg | Press the + key to strum. |
| 23:25.37 | Skittles__ | Guitar hero?! |
| 23:25.38 | Bibendus | keyboard like? |
| 23:25.45 | Bibendus | tx ice |
| 23:25.47 | JademusSreg | So motherfuckers have to hold it like a fake plastic guitar. |
| 23:25.55 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 23:25.57 | Bibendus | lol |
| 23:26.01 | Dekar | you can add the song until someone complains, then replace it :> |
| 23:26.07 | Bibendus | nah |
| 23:26.09 | JademusSreg | Yeah! |
| 23:26.14 | Bibendus | then hive keeper name would be banned |
| 23:26.16 | Bibendus | ! |
| 23:26.19 | Bibendus | and blizzard would complain |
| 23:26.26 | Bibendus | cuz the mapp will become sooo fucking imba popular |
| 23:26.28 | Dekar | dont they unban if you remove it? |
| 23:26.29 | Bibendus | etc etc etc |
| 23:26.30 | Bibendus | :D |
| 23:26.32 | JademusSreg | Banhammer hero will be the sequal, I'm sure. |
| 23:26.34 | Bibendus | i think |
| 23:26.36 | Bibendus | the name would be taken |
| 23:26.42 | Bibendus | its bugged if you delete a map |
| 23:26.45 | Dekar | yeah |
| 23:26.46 | JademusSreg | *sequel |
| 23:26.47 | Bibendus | i think its the same if they delete the map |
| 23:26.47 | Bibendus | :D |
| 23:26.50 | Icebane | Just name it to Hive Kepper instead xD |
| 23:26.50 | Dekar | hmm |
| 23:26.54 | Bibendus | rofl |
| 23:27.03 | Dekar | NOBODY WILL NOTICE |
| 23:27.13 | Bibendus | some jelous mapper maybe! |
| 23:27.14 | Bibendus | :d |
| 23:27.17 | Dekar | hive kepeer |
| 23:27.33 | Dekar | hlve keeper |
| 23:27.38 | Dekar | so many possibilities |
| 23:27.41 | Icebane | Hive Janitor |
| 23:27.47 | Icebane | xD |
| 23:27.54 | Dekar | hive keeper 2 |
| 23:28.05 | Icebane | Kive Heeper 2 |
| 23:28.19 | Skizot | That map where you dig and shit |
| 23:28.33 | Dekar | i dont think he added shitting yet |
| 23:29.26 | JademusSreg | Digdug? |
| 23:29.31 | Bibendus | lol |
| 23:29.51 | Icebane | Cave Janitor 1 minus 1 |
| 23:30.01 | Icebane | 2 minus 1 * |
| 23:30.01 | Bibendus | btw i ll make a screen of my farm right now |
| 23:30.05 | Bibendus | its soo cuuuute |
| 23:30.07 | Icebane | no dammit lulz |
| 23:30.09 | Dekar | :3 |
| 23:30.11 | Icebane | 1 + 1 |
| 23:30.11 | Bibendus | i love feederlings running around |
| 23:30.17 | Dekar | feederlings D: |
| 23:30.21 | Icebane | go for it bibendus! |
| 23:30.22 | Icebane | :D |
| 23:30.30 | Icebane | they eat poor lings?! :( |
| 23:30.37 | Bibendus | feederlings |
| 23:30.38 | Bibendus | they are in game |
| 23:30.41 | Dekar | will they explode into red dust when units fight nearby? |
| 23:30.41 | JademusSreg | Feederlings <3 |
| 23:30.46 | Bibendus | in the kill the queen mission |
| 23:30.56 | Bibendus | the stupid strange worms |
| 23:30.59 | Bibendus | but sooo cuteee |
| 23:31.05 | JademusSreg | They are also in the infested Haven mission |
| 23:31.12 | Dekar | ._. |
| 23:31.16 | Dekar | ooh |
| 23:31.21 | Dekar | these worms |
| 23:31.26 | JademusSreg | They look like fat larva. |
| 23:31.44 | Bibendus | with exposed brain |
| 23:31.45 | Bibendus | :D |
| 23:31.58 | JademusSreg | Delicious. |
| 23:32.10 | Bibendus | my creatures will love to eat them! |
| 23:32.13 | JademusSreg | Like the monkey brain scene in the Indiana Jones movie. |
| 23:32.40 | Bibendus | oh fuck |
| 23:32.42 | Bibendus | i m forced to patch |
| 23:32.43 | Bibendus | xD |
| 23:32.52 | Bibendus | lets patch |
| 23:32.55 | Bibendus | wait i finish :D |
| 23:33.21 | Dekar | do you record a video? |
| 23:33.29 | Bibendus | nah |
| 23:33.29 | Dekar | or can i go to bed? |
| 23:33.31 | Dekar | :P |
| 23:33.32 | Bibendus | i wait to complete it |
| 23:33.33 | Dekar | hmm |
| 23:33.34 | Bibendus | just some screenz |
| 23:33.41 | Dekar | hurry! |
| 23:33.46 | Bibendus | 70% |
| 23:33.50 | Bibendus | of useless patch |
| 23:33.50 | Bibendus | :D |
| 23:34.26 | Dekar | patch 1.2.2: broke savegames of 1.2.1, unbroke savegames 1.2.1 broke |
| 23:34.27 | Bibendus | 80 |
| 23:34.31 | Bibendus | lol |
| 23:35.34 | Icebane | hahaha |
| 23:36.17 | Dekar | http://eu.starcraft2.com/launcher/patch-notes.htm |
| 23:36.20 | Dekar | according to this website |
| 23:36.27 | Dekar | eu still uses 1.10 |
| 23:36.35 | Dekar | 1.1.0 |
| 23:36.35 | JademusSreg | Jokes on them. All my old saves are worthless. |
| 23:36.45 | Bibendus | loading map |
| 23:37.26 | Bibendus | loading game |
| 23:38.14 | Dekar | is it just me or do 1.2.2 patchnotes only exist for germany? |
| 23:39.03 | Dekar | there |
| 23:39.04 | Dekar | yeah |
| 23:39.07 | Bounty | 4 Player count is a good number for a map that is preferred to be played with your friends right? |
| 23:39.18 | Bounty | Like, being able to find 3 of your friends to play etc |
| 23:39.21 | Dekar | the more the merrier |
| 23:39.23 | Bounty | Or is that to high lol |
| 23:39.33 | Skizot | WOOP WOOP NERD ALERT WOOP WOOP |
| 23:39.37 | Dekar | variable player number is the best |
| 23:39.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:39.50 | Dekar | if you can play it solo or with 11 friends |
| 23:39.58 | MrOp | lol |
| 23:39.59 | Dekar | you always have fun! |
| 23:40.05 | Bounty | I use Variable/Parameter player numbers atleast 1,000 times in my maps |
| 23:40.18 | Bounty | well i dont want to pump up the player count beyond 4 to avoid lag |
| 23:40.33 | Dekar | thats a reasonable reason! |
| 23:40.35 | Bounty | its WASD and i hate having to optimize beyond 4 players... its a pain |
| 23:41.21 | Bounty | Did you see the map i speak of yet Dekar? "Iconic Bosses" |
| 23:41.24 | Bounty | =P |
| 23:41.48 | Dekar | yeah, you linked it a dozen times today |
| 23:41.51 | Dekar | :p |
| 23:41.53 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 23:42.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:42.05 | Bounty | bah |
| 23:42.05 | avogatro | wasd sucks and will crush u |
| 23:42.11 | Bounty | im always looking for an excuse to link it |
| 23:42.34 | Bounty | if you firmly believe that avo then just dont play wasd games, ive never had complaints from people who play my maps about wasd lol |
| 23:42.37 | Bounty | its always something else |
| 23:43.41 | avogatro | LAG? |
| 23:43.58 | Dekar | does the data editor WASD control make the unit go where they face when you press W ? |
| 23:44.16 | avogatro | no |
| 23:44.29 | avogatro | maybe u can do it |
| 23:45.03 | Bibendus | k |
| 23:45.05 | Bibendus | uploading |
| 23:46.13 | avogatro | i will try it wait |
| 23:46.51 | Bibendus | http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/7920/screenshot2011030100544.jpg |
| 23:47.11 | Bibendus | dekar |
| 23:47.27 | grim001 | This is definitely the lamest "system" I have ever written |
| 23:47.45 | grim001 | it is not so much a system as a set of detailed instructions on how to follow a certain pattern while creating your own function pointer tables |
| 23:47.50 | Dekar | hmm |
| 23:48.00 | grim001 | but if there is to be any hope of code sharing, stuff like that would be necessary |
| 23:48.14 | grim001 | at least if people want to share code with function pointers... |
| 23:48.49 | Bibendus | maybe showing their spawn portal is good too :P |
| 23:48.51 | Icebane | haha nice biben! :D |
| 23:48.55 | Icebane | yeah do so! |
| 23:49.02 | Bibendus | http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8274/screenshot2011030100563.jpg |
| 23:49.14 | JademusSreg | At least until some standard extension crawls its way out of the primordial sea and makes our lives easier. |
| 23:49.40 | Bibendus | dekar are u dead now? xD |
| 23:49.44 | Bibendus | shame on u |
| 23:49.48 | Dekar | im looking for cute things |
| 23:49.51 | Dekar | but i dont find any |
| 23:49.52 | Dekar | D: |
| 23:50.03 | Dekar | even when i zoom in |
| 23:51.29 | Bibendus | don't u see the feederlings |
| 23:51.45 | Bibendus | oh u should see them moving |
| 23:51.46 | Bibendus | soooo cute |
| 23:51.47 | Bibendus | :P |
| 23:52.08 | Dekar | video :< |
| 23:52.09 | Icebane | niice Biben =D |
| 23:52.18 | Icebane | WE DEMAND A VIDEO! |
| 23:52.19 | Icebane | Now! |
| 23:52.28 | Dekar | i demand a bed |
| 23:52.29 | Dekar | now! |
| 23:52.41 | Bibendus | xD |
| 23:52.47 | Bibendus | the bed got ya |
| 23:53.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster Technomancer (60ffc069@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.255.192.105) |
| 23:54.16 | grim001 | personally, I'm finding it to be a little bit of a relief to not have to worry about bugs, "missing features", or the language changing under me while in development |
| 23:54.40 | grim001 | of course it's a bad thing in total, but at least now I can focus on making a game instead of trying to make the ultimate code |
| 23:55.26 | JademusSreg | Fair point. |
| 23:55.49 | grim001 | http://pastebin.com/1aUEj6py |
| 23:56.07 | Sumo- | what stuff can u change to a bunker to make it look more beefy? |
| 23:56.13 | Sumo- | and how is it best added |
| 23:56.23 | Sumo- | is it only the shrike? |
| 23:57.02 | Sumo- | jumbo bunker looks cool |
| 23:58.59 | grim001 | It's a bit idealistic to hope that anyone will care about standards though |
| 23:59.42 | Icebane | Anyone know if you can add/remove/set ability charges for an ability for a player or unit? |
