| 00:00.10 | QueenGambit | query |
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| 00:10.09 | Clord | debateeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees |
| 00:10.10 | Clord | lol |
| 00:10.17 | Clord | damn that map is not known in europe |
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| 01:08.41 | JManV | yo |
| 01:09.45 | QueenGambit | mama? |
| 01:09.55 | JManV | mama? |
| 01:10.24 | JManV | ~seen mama |
| 01:10.36 | purl | mama <mama@unaffiliated/almathea> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 157d 9h 28m 13s ago, saying: 'hello'. |
| 01:10.43 | JManV | ha |
| 01:12.10 | JManV | i was just warned, when copying my map, that the file might be harmful to my computer |
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| 01:12.51 | JManV | only if the editor crashes :P |
| 01:16.15 | Sumo- | how do i stop debris from being permanent |
| 01:16.24 | Jum-Jum | ~seen God |
| 01:16.25 | purl | god <~coolflips@c-71-56-255-247.hsd1.co.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 159d 4h 7m 27s ago, saying: 'But god is'. |
| 01:16.32 | Jum-Jum | deep |
| 01:16.46 | JManV | indeed |
| 01:16.54 | JManV | debris? permanent? |
| 01:16.59 | JManV | doodad or unit? |
| 01:17.04 | Sumo- | unit |
| 01:17.13 | Sumo- | a cruiserbike for example |
| 01:17.16 | Sumo- | when dies, leaves debris |
| 01:17.19 | Sumo- | and it doesnt fuck off |
| 01:17.31 | JManV | cruiserbike? |
| 01:17.36 | Sumo- | indeed |
| 01:17.46 | JManV | i don't know of such a unit |
| 01:18.07 | Jum-Jum | are you talking about hellion? |
| 01:18.10 | Sumo- | no |
| 01:18.12 | Sumo- | cruiser bike |
| 01:18.23 | Sumo- | its there |
| 01:18.23 | Jum-Jum | theres no unit named cruiser bike |
| 01:18.33 | Sumo- | ................ |
| 01:18.35 | Jum-Jum | is it a campaign npc or something? |
| 01:18.39 | Sumo- | probably |
| 01:18.52 | JManV | i've got all the dependancies on |
| 01:18.54 | JManV | i don't see it |
| 01:19.06 | Sumo- | lookup cruiser |
| 01:19.09 | Sumo- | you will see it..... |
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| 01:19.21 | JManV | that's what i'm staring at right now |
| 01:19.30 | JManV | oh |
| 01:19.32 | JManV | hmmmm |
| 01:19.37 | Sumo- | the id is CruiserBike |
| 01:19.41 | Sumo- | so, yeah, cruiserbike |
| 01:20.31 | Sumo- | it has debris, i wanna get it to time out or remove it |
| 01:20.32 | JManV | hmmm |
| 01:20.39 | Sumo- | is it a deatheffect or an event |
| 01:20.44 | Sumo- | i dont really get where it comes from |
| 01:21.22 | JManV | i'm not sure either |
| 01:21.28 | JManV | never really noticed the unit before |
| 01:21.53 | Sumo- | there are other units like that |
| 01:22.04 | Sumo- | im after the technique rather than the unit specifically |
| 01:23.19 | JManV | it looks like it might be CruiserBikePhsyicsDeath |
| 01:23.41 | Sumo- | so its part of the model? |
| 01:23.43 | JManV | check out that model in the previewer |
| 01:23.58 | JManV | yeah |
| 01:24.01 | JManV | it's the dead part |
| 01:24.08 | JManV | there's a death anim |
| 01:24.10 | JManV | and a dead one |
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| 01:24.24 | Sumo- | hmm ok |
| 01:24.34 | JManV | it's all set up on the main actor |
| 01:24.40 | JManV | combat - death effects + |
| 01:24.49 | Sumo- | yeah i just flicked it to hellion death |
| 01:24.53 | Sumo- | that'll do |
| 01:25.04 | Kueken | anyone hacked a map yet? |
| 01:25.31 | Kueken | some problems I need to worry about? |
| 01:33.25 | avogatro1 | every people undstand mpq and galaxyscript can hack a map |
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| 01:41.09 | Kueken | ye |
| 01:41.24 | Kueken | but I want to hack my own map and work with it after |
| 01:42.00 | Kueken | because I lost my recent non-protected version and my backup is months old |
| 01:42.16 | Kueken | and now I would like to know |
| 01:42.17 | Sehkmet | idk how can u lose a backup |
| 01:42.32 | Kueken | my hard drive fried itself ;) |
| 01:42.44 | Sehkmet | but.. backup means.. |
| 01:42.58 | Kueken | I lost the current version |
| 01:43.03 | Kueken | the backup is intact |
| 01:43.06 | Sehkmet | idk, i have a backup of my progress at my brotha pc |
| 01:43.11 | Sehkmet | ah |
| 01:43.12 | Kueken | but I was sloppy, so its several month old |
| 01:43.20 | Sehkmet | owned :S |
| 01:43.39 | Sehkmet | wich map is it? |
| 01:43.41 | Kueken | and now I try to save me some time and hack my latest uploaded map |
| 01:43.55 | Kueken | a hero line wars map |
| 01:43.59 | Sehkmet | ah |
| 01:44.04 | Sehkmet | if this makes you help better.. |
| 01:44.05 | Kueken | not released yet |
| 01:44.19 | Sehkmet | always that i lost something, when i re-make it, its better |
| 01:44.26 | Kueken | ;) |
| 01:44.35 | Sehkmet | so if u remake it, it may be better than the uploaded one |
| 01:44.41 | Kueken | well, gonna try the hacking first |
| 01:44.48 | Sehkmet | jaja gl |
| 01:44.52 | Kueken | I am curious how this turns out anyway |
| 01:47.14 | Kueken | o_o |
| 01:47.25 | Kueken | cannot believe how easy that was |
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| 01:57.33 | Shawn|Rawr | Morning QueenGambit, How is Desert Strike coming? |
| 01:58.42 | QueenGambit | its okay, i learned how to do a few basic triggering. |
| 01:59.03 | QueenGambit | Data editor is kinda confusing/poweful, won't use that till later |
| 02:00.35 | QueenGambit | now that i have a basic grasp of the editor, i can now start triggering the damn map |
| 02:00.58 | Shawn|Rawr | Let me know if you need help. I'm actually very excited that you are making a new DS map |
| 02:01.38 | QueenGambit | I'll start on that once I kill Ultimeca. Right Balamb Garden is now my mobile ship and Galbadia is nearby. Im grinding my GFs so that they can have better junctions |
| 02:01.44 | QueenGambit | (final fantasy VIII) |
| 02:01.55 | QueenGambit | thanks for your support |
| 02:02.56 | QueenGambit | earlier 2day i had a long chat with RyanWin, director of that World of Starcraft and I gave him my support and suggestions of website, etc |
| 02:03.06 | QueenGambit | so i might be working on that as well |
| 02:05.01 | Shawn|Rawr | I read that chat. I wish he was on now. I need to start testing something for him |
| 02:06.14 | Xaragoth | playing heavy rain right now |
| 02:06.24 | Xaragoth | analyzing it? fun |
| 02:06.27 | Xaragoth | playing it? |
| 02:06.29 | Xaragoth | BORING AS HELL |
| 02:07.49 | Shawn|Rawr | So I've heard. My friend owns it and quit playing right near the start |
| 02:08.05 | Shawn|Rawr | Hasn't touched it since the first time he tried it |
| 02:08.19 | QueenGambit | no its fun! |
| 02:08.22 | Xaragoth | i didn't buy it - thank god |
| 02:08.26 | QueenGambit | what part are u at xara? |
| 02:08.30 | Xaragoth | maybe it'll be fun when i'm 50 and can't react anymore |
| 02:08.33 | QueenGambit | no no its fun epic drama game |
| 02:08.36 | Xaragoth | beginning, and i'm already annoyed |
| 02:08.38 | Xaragoth | drama? |
| 02:08.43 | QueenGambit | lol |
| 02:08.43 | Xaragoth | "omg the bird is dead" |
| 02:08.45 | Xaragoth | ye, sucks to be you. |
| 02:08.51 | Xaragoth | now shut up and tell me where the crime is. |
| 02:08.53 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 02:08.55 | QueenGambit | lol |
| 02:09.02 | Shawn|Rawr | "It's in your pants" |
| 02:09.05 | QueenGambit | its starts happy first, then picks up |
| 02:09.05 | Shawn|Rawr | -.- |
| 02:09.23 | Xaragoth | its raining naow |
| 02:09.29 | Xaragoth | but maybe i want too much |
| 02:09.34 | Xaragoth | i played god of war 3 before this |
| 02:09.38 | QueenGambit | lol |
| 02:09.39 | Xaragoth | it had all the glory |
| 02:09.41 | QueenGambit | maybe thats why |
| 02:10.02 | QueenGambit | u just went from Speed Metal to Classical Borders background music |
| 02:10.19 | Xaragoth | and we just had a meeting with the ravens and came up with a great mapping project ... soo ... yeah |
| 02:10.36 | QueenGambit | care to talk about it here? |
| 02:10.38 | QueenGambit | listens |
| 02:10.44 | Xaragoth | no |
| 02:10.47 | QueenGambit | =( |
| 02:11.01 | Xaragoth | but we'll probably have something in the next month :p |
| 02:11.08 | Xaragoth | it'll make people go "DO WANT!" |
| 02:11.20 | Xaragoth | oh and ruins from malu works now, we played for a bit ... and died a horrible death |
| 02:11.56 | Xaragoth | hopefully it'll be aviable to play next week |
| 02:12.04 | Xaragoth | *available |
| 02:20.41 | Xaragoth | oh go |
| 02:20.41 | Xaragoth | d |
| 02:20.46 | Xaragoth | now i do homework with the kid? |
| 02:21.01 | Xaragoth | fuck you devs, fuck you, i want to murder that little shit already |
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| 02:31.53 | QueenGambit | lol xaragoth |
| 02:31.59 | QueenGambit | thats ur son and his brother just died |
| 02:32.06 | Xaragoth | and? |
| 02:32.16 | Xaragoth | it doesn't work on me |
| 02:32.18 | QueenGambit | and he doesn't have a father who is mentally present |
| 02:32.23 | Xaragoth | I hate kids and I see immersion tricks |
| 02:32.28 | QueenGambit | be a good dad and help him out |
| 02:32.31 | QueenGambit | lol |
| 02:32.31 | Sumo- | i have this tower right, and it has an ability that applies behavior, then i moprh it into another unit, i want the new unit to remoive the old behavior, how can i acheive that? |
| 02:32.45 | Xaragoth | I studied this shit, I know manipulation of players, when I see it :p |
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| 02:33.23 | QueenGambit | i dunno sumo- =( |
| 02:33.38 | Sumo- | i guess you could add a behaviors + that removes behaviors.. |
| 02:33.40 | Xaragoth | events Sumo- |
| 02:33.48 | Sumo- | ooh? |
| 02:33.56 | Sumo- | event on what, the new unit? |
| 02:33.57 | Xaragoth | just pit it under actor events |
| 02:34.05 | Xaragoth | unit morphed -> remove behavior |
| 02:34.13 | Sumo- | cheers |
| 02:34.18 | Xaragoth | also |
| 02:34.19 | Xaragoth | haha |
| 02:34.25 | Xaragoth | he has to go to bed without his teddy |
| 02:34.27 | Xaragoth | take that, sucker! |
| 02:34.49 | QueenGambit | lol |
| 02:36.23 | Sumo- | QueenGambit: how can i remove the behavior in the event? i cant see anything obvious |
| 02:37.22 | avogatro1 | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/category-presets/ |
| 02:37.27 | avogatro1 | done :D |
| 02:39.09 | Sumo- | hmm i might try do this through triggers.. |
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| 02:43.07 | avogatro1 | sumo really? |
| 02:43.13 | Sumo- | really what |
| 02:43.28 | avogatro1 | there are 2000 functions |
| 02:43.39 | avogatro1 | functions + actions |
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| 02:43.58 | avogatro1 | well 50 of them are event |
| 02:44.07 | Sumo- | check for me. |
| 02:44.14 | Sumo- | i checked twice |
| 02:44.35 | onetwo | alrighty time to try my hand at sc2layouts |
| 02:44.37 | Sumo- | i'll be happy with an effect add or a behavior removal from actor event |
| 02:44.44 | Xaragoth | i think, it's my fault ... |
| 02:44.48 | Xaragoth | you see, its 5am here |
| 02:44.55 | Xaragoth | eh, 4am |
| 02:45.00 | Xaragoth | i mixed shit up |
| 02:45.02 | Sumo- | i can achieve in trigger easy but |
| 02:45.45 | avogatro1 | i am updating single functions now |
| 02:48.23 | onetwo | Helral are you there |
| 02:48.40 | avogatro1 | the problem is the migration of old backups |
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| 02:48.51 | avogatro1 | because some of them has example |
| 02:48.59 | avogatro1 | that is something i cant generate |
| 02:50.23 | Xaragoth | finally some action |
| 02:50.27 | Xaragoth | now i'm pleased |
| 02:54.17 | avogatro1 | what action? :O |
| 02:56.21 | Xaragoth | playing heavy rain |
| 02:57.56 | Shadowsong | Hello |
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| 03:02.59 | Xaragoth | well, bed time |
| 03:03.00 | Xaragoth | n8 |
| 03:10.01 | Sumo- | is there a way of determining if a unit has a behavior from triggers? |
| 03:10.24 | Sumo- | ah unit has behavior |
| 03:10.25 | Sumo- | of course |
| 03:11.14 | Shawn|Rawr | Hmm.. when is Ryan usually active here? |
| 03:11.23 | Sumo- | ~seen ryan |
| 03:11.23 | purl | ryan <~ryan@gw-100.extranet.sea01.isilon.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #, 352d 3h 38m 29s ago, saying: 'shit'. |
| 03:11.23 | Shawn|Rawr | QueenGambit, do you know? |
| 03:11.32 | QueenGambit | the ryanwin person? |
| 03:11.37 | Shawn|Rawr | ~seen RyanWin |
| 03:11.38 | purl | ryanwin is currently on #sc2mapster (6h 24m 37s). Has said a total of 33 messages. Is idling for 4h 45m 31s, last said: 'whys she leave'. |
| 03:11.45 | Shawn|Rawr | Yes lol |
| 03:11.48 | Shawn|Rawr | I need to talk to him |
| 03:11.51 | Shawn|Rawr | D: |
| 03:11.57 | QueenGambit | me too wait in line lol |
| 03:12.03 | Shawn|Rawr | No, I'm more important |
| 03:12.04 | QueenGambit | hes afk i guess |
| 03:12.06 | Shawn|Rawr | :P |
| 03:12.18 | Sumo- | how can i run an ability-effect-instant for a unit from trigger? i want the button to do its toggle thing as well |
| 03:13.07 | Sumo- | ah issue order >:P |
| 03:13.43 | Shawn|Rawr | You keep answering your own questions |
| 03:13.47 | Sumo- | indeed |
| 03:14.00 | slightlyrandom1 | Makes one wonder why you ask them at all |
| 03:14.10 | Sumo- | when i dont ask, i never get answers |
| 03:17.35 | RyanWin | whats up im taking a nap |
| 03:17.36 | RyanWin | lolz |
| 03:17.53 | QueenGambit | me 1st |
| 03:18.22 | QueenGambit | so we decided that sixen will help you setup another site on his forum and ill just give him some ideas on it |
| 03:18.30 | QueenGambit | on his server* |
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| 03:32.49 | JManV | ~seen JManV |
| 03:32.51 | purl | jmanv is currently on #sc2mapster (8h 27m 47s). Has said a total of 28 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: '~seen JManV'. |
| 03:33.14 | JManV | ~seen JManV|Work |
| 03:33.14 | purl | jmanv|work <d1fefd82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.209.254.253.130> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 5h 36m 32s ago, saying: 'actually, i'm gonna go be him now'. |
| 03:33.57 | avogatro1 | ~seen avogatro1 |
| 03:33.58 | purl | avogatro1 is currently on #sc2mapster (5h 14m 35s). Has said a total of 13 messages. Is idling for 1s, last said: '~seen avogatro1'. |
| 03:36.23 | JManV | ~seen taco |
| 03:36.24 | purl | JManV: i haven't seen 'taco' |
| 03:36.28 | JManV | shame |
| 03:36.36 | JManV | i could use a taco |
| 03:40.07 | Shadowsong | Can someone help with my chat system? |
| 03:40.22 | Shadowsong | I have a couple problems I need solved |
| 03:46.54 | Shadowsong | I guess not. |
| 03:55.06 | QueenGambit | hi everyone |
| 03:55.34 | Shadowsong | hi... |
| 03:55.39 | onetwo | hi you sonsabitches |
| 03:55.43 | QueenGambit | lol |
| 03:55.44 | onetwo | im editing game layout files |
| 03:55.47 | onetwo | holy shit takes a long time |
| 03:55.48 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:56.01 | onetwo | could use an interface builder... |
| 03:56.03 | onetwo | hint hint |
| 03:56.08 | QueenGambit | when u said that onetwo, it felt like you like a big bazooka and aiming at us |
| 03:56.16 | QueenGambit | like u had* a |
| 03:56.44 | QueenGambit | in a Heavy TeamFortress2 voice |
| 03:58.00 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:59.33 | Shadowsong | needs help with his chat system. |
| 03:59.42 | onetwo | shadowsong do you use sc2layouts |
| 03:59.45 | onetwo | and know how i hide a frame |
| 03:59.48 | onetwo | like hero icon |
| 03:59.49 | onetwo | ? |
| 03:59.53 | onetwo | or any frame |
| 04:00.09 | Shadowsong | yea i do |
| 04:00.21 | Shadowsong | I hide the default chat window and moved the chat bar |
| 04:00.40 | onetwo | cool, so do i have to go into EVERY .sc2layout file |
| 04:00.43 | onetwo | to hide everything? |
| 04:00.44 | Shadowsong | help me and I'll help you edit SC2layouts any way you want |
| 04:00.48 | onetwo | or is it all doable from gameUI |
| 04:00.57 | Shadowsong | I believe gameUI |
| 04:01.01 | onetwo | im guessing what you need help on is something not doablo loll |
| 04:01.02 | onetwo | doable* |
| 04:01.18 | Shadowsong | I am making a custom chat window |
| 04:01.46 | Shadowsong | similar to the default one but so I can control what messages each player sees |
| 04:03.04 | QueenGambit | that would be a nice system to have |
| 04:03.22 | Shadowsong | yea |
| 04:03.31 | Shadowsong | hence why I'm working on it |
| 04:03.42 | Shadowsong | fell into a few problems |
| 04:04.32 | Shadowsong | if I get help from people on sc2mapster I'll compile it all into a sc2mod for others to download on sc2mapster |
| 04:04.33 | QueenGambit | i always hate having to hold shift or so just to chat. I also hate how the chat is now centered and covers the screen when lots of talking happening plus with big scoreboards u virtually have no game space to play on lol |
| 04:04.51 | Shadowsong | QueenGambit: I was able to move the chat bar |
| 04:04.53 | QueenGambit | that would be great to have |
| 04:05.04 | Shadowsong | I also can resize the chat bar |
| 04:05.12 | QueenGambit | :) |
| 04:05.12 | Shadowsong | make it shorter |
| 04:05.37 | allenmelon | wow... |
| 04:05.44 | allenmelon | sotis isnt on first page anymore |
| 04:05.47 | QueenGambit | eventually my map will be using some sc2layouts, no need for that big interface coving up 40% of the bottom screen |
| 04:06.15 | Shadowsong | I'll have to write up a quick tutorial on editing the sc2layouts for moving the chat bar |
| 04:07.12 | Shadowsong | QueenGambit: you could before hide the gameui and use dialogs |
| 04:07.22 | QueenGambit | right |
| 04:07.48 | onetwo | my tutorial coming out soon |
| 04:07.54 | onetwo | is gonna have a whole part about redoing the interface |
| 04:07.57 | onetwo | that should help people get started |
| 04:08.08 | onetwo | cause to get started is actually quite hard |
| 04:08.17 | onetwo | everyone assumes you just 'edit sc2layouts' but for a lot of us that means nothing |
| 04:08.25 | onetwo | and even helrals tutorial is good for someone like me |
| 04:08.29 | onetwo | whos advanced using computers |
| 04:08.39 | onetwo | but theres not much intro stuff for beginners |
| 04:08.58 | Shadowsong | onetwo: true dat |
| 04:09.06 | QueenGambit | srsly |
| 04:09.27 | onetwo | and its quite sad when you discover sc2layouts |
| 04:09.29 | onetwo | means sitting in notepad |
| 04:09.32 | onetwo | punching in values |
| 04:09.34 | onetwo | praying it looks good |
| 04:09.36 | onetwo | and doesntr crash |
| 04:10.01 | Shadowsong | Dreamweaver can edit sc2layouts |
| 04:10.23 | Shadowsong | any program that can read xml files will work with sc2layouts |
| 04:10.31 | Lilianna | Notepad++! |
| 04:10.45 | onetwo | fair enough but i want http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/referencelibrary/GettingStarted/URL_Tools_for_iPhone_OS_Development/Art/interface_builder.jpg |
| 04:10.50 | onetwo | visual drag n drop |
| 04:10.53 | onetwo | editing |
| 04:10.54 | onetwo | functionality |
| 04:10.55 | onetwo | lol |
| 04:11.00 | Lilianna | onetwo, I was thinking about how to make something like that |
| 04:11.06 | onetwo | probably doable? |
| 04:11.09 | onetwo | but a huge pain |
| 04:11.15 | Lilianna | Doable yes |
| 04:11.17 | onetwo | and best for inhouse blizz to make it |
| 04:11.20 | Lilianna | wouldnt be too big of a pain |
| 04:11.29 | Lilianna | but knowing everything about SC2layouts first |
| 04:11.31 | Lilianna | would be helpful |
| 04:11.54 | Lilianna | I don't know alot about XML personally |
| 04:12.03 | Lilianna | but I will learn some over this next semester |
| 04:13.15 | onetwo | ah |
| 04:13.16 | onetwo | cool |
| 04:13.22 | Shadowsong | So anyone wanna help me out with my chat system? *cough* onetwo *cough( |
| 04:14.13 | Lilianna | Taking an Android Class. :D |
| 04:14.24 | Lilianna | one of our projects will be XML parsing |
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| 04:20.46 | Miccrackens | Yo shawn |
| 04:20.50 | Miccrackens | you here |
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| 04:23.50 | Skittles | hi |
| 04:23.56 | Skittles | ~seen agouti |
| 04:23.57 | purl | agouti <Agouti@CPE-124-183-110-221.lns14.ken.bigpond.net.au> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 13h 44m 30s ago, saying: 'I've got enough hmmm's of my own'. |
| 04:24.49 | JManV | ~seen purl |
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| 04:25.03 | JManV | wow |
| 04:27.06 | Shadowsong | :( |
| 04:28.03 | JManV | what's the dilemma? |
| 04:28.41 | Shadowsong | nothing I can seem to get any help with |
| 04:29.12 | JManV | chat system? |
| 04:29.34 | Shadowsong | yea |
| 04:29.45 | JManV | can be tricky |
| 04:29.50 | JManV | not a lot of options |
| 04:29.58 | Skittles | +seen jmanv |
| 04:30.02 | Skittles | ah fail |
| 04:30.05 | JManV | what are you trying to do precisely? |
| 04:30.06 | Skittles | ~seen jmanv |
| 04:30.07 | purl | jmanv is currently on #sc2mapster (9h 25m 3s). Has said a total of 39 messages. Is idling for 2s, last said: 'what are you trying to do precisely?'. |
| 04:30.37 | Skittles | Haha a whole 2 singularities. |
| 04:30.39 | Shadowsong | I am able to hide the default chat window and move the chat bar. just need to fix the few problems with my chat system |
| 04:31.17 | JManV | which are? |
| 04:31.39 | Shadowsong | text wrapping and being able to scroll through the messages |
| 04:31.59 | JManV | hmmm |
| 04:32.24 | Shadowsong | if I can get the system perfect then I'll post it on sc2mapster |
| 04:32.42 | JManV | a dialog label doesn't text wrap? |
| 04:32.52 | Shadowsong | correct |
| 04:33.01 | JManV | it does the ..., right? |
| 04:33.11 | onetwo | F haha i cant move the resource buttons |
| 04:33.13 | onetwo | and icons |
| 04:33.16 | JManV | that might depend on the style |
| 04:33.17 | onetwo | cash panel |
| 04:33.18 | Shadowsong | if the text is too long you get ... |
| 04:33.19 | onetwo | resource panel |
| 04:33.20 | onetwo | just wont move |
| 04:33.50 | JManV | i'd almost swear i've seen text wrap before |
| 04:34.46 | JManV | scrolling is a different matter |
| 04:35.02 | JManV | you could do it all with triggers and up/down buttons |
| 04:35.08 | JManV | but you don't get a scrollbat |
| 04:35.10 | JManV | bar |
| 04:35.35 | Shadowsong | if we can get it all working then I can post it (and yes anyone who helps will get credit) |
| 04:36.18 | Shadowsong | no need for a scrollbar |
| 04:36.35 | onetwo | weird, i can move the resource panel from within its file |
| 04:36.40 | onetwo | but not the whole thing from gameui.layout |
| 04:36.49 | JManV | well then you could store everything, and just use buttons to scroll up/down |
| 04:37.10 | Shadowsong | already have it store every message typed |
| 04:37.24 | Shadowsong | problem is text wrapping and scrolling |
| 04:37.53 | Shadowsong | I have it setup for being able to control chat fully, like who sees what messages |
| 04:37.54 | JManV | you'll need to save some per player data, but you can store which is the first item displayed |
| 04:38.16 | JManV | and draw the dialog based on that |
| 04:38.27 | JManV | they click a button, move the pointer up and redraw |
| 04:40.33 | JManV | hmmm |
| 04:40.40 | JManV | i don't see anything with styles |
| 04:40.48 | JManV | to allow text wrapping |
| 04:41.29 | Shadowsong | I tried using a while loop to do it but doesn't work right since not every letter is the same size |
| 04:41.50 | JManV | i don't think there's a way to get the size either |
| 04:42.35 | Skittles | hmm |
| 04:42.37 | Shadowsong | if you can find a way to do it I could merge it with what i have and finish this |
| 04:43.00 | JManV | somehow rodrigo text wraps |
| 04:43.21 | JManV | does your dialog item have enough height to text wrap? |
| 04:43.24 | Skittles | wraps around what? |
| 04:43.28 | Shadowsong | 50 |
| 04:43.37 | JManV | for what style? |
| 04:43.40 | JManV | no style? |
| 04:44.16 | Shadowsong | HeaderTemplate |
| 04:44.38 | JManV | hmmm |
| 04:44.45 | JManV | try StandardTemplate |
| 04:45.10 | JManV | it may be the font |
| 04:45.10 | Shadowsong | each line is a different dialog label |
| 04:45.52 | JManV | well, there's basically no way you can know how tall to make it |
| 04:46.17 | JManV | that i know of |
| 04:46.35 | Shadowsong | I could upload the map and you could look at it if it would help? |
| 04:46.59 | JManV | try switching it to StandardTemplate real quick |
| 04:47.04 | JManV | i'm curious if it's the font |
| 04:47.45 | Shadowsong | each line of chat is in its own label |
| 04:48.00 | JManV | so? |
| 04:48.34 | JManV | make a line big enough to wrap, try something long enough to wrap, and test it |
| 04:49.31 | Shadowsong | how am I suppose to do a new line and push the previous lines up? |
| 04:49.36 | Skittles | anyone else not watching custom live because it's annoying to hear the people talk? Xd |
| 04:54.27 | Shadowsong | yea it wraps |
| 04:55.19 | JManV | ok |
| 04:55.26 | JManV | so its the header font that doesn't wrap |
| 04:55.59 | Shadowsong | i tried both, both worked with the taller label box |
| 04:56.26 | Shadowsong | but there is the problem of text not go from the bottom and go up |
| 04:57.55 | JManV | text align bottom? |
| 04:58.24 | Shadowsong | no option to align text to the bottom |
| 04:59.05 | JManV | you have to pick a style that's text aligned to the bottom |
| 04:59.06 | Shadowsong | chat goes from the bottom up |
| 04:59.18 | JManV | http://code.google.com/p/jssm/source/browse/trunk/+jssm+--username+joostvdg@gmail.com/FontStyles.SC2Style.txt?r=9 |
| 04:59.23 | JManV | that ones a little dated |
| 04:59.32 | JManV | some of them don't exist anymore |
| 04:59.37 | JManV | but you might be able to find one |
| 04:59.45 | JManV | or you could make your own |
| 05:01.28 | Skittles | so what ever happened to dungeon hive? |
| 05:02.04 | allenmelon | cant believe sotis is way down |
| 05:05.31 | onetwo | shit editing sc2layouts |
| 05:05.35 | onetwo | is not fun nor easy |
| 05:05.37 | onetwo | to get it right |
| 05:05.38 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:06.03 | JManV | that sucks |
| 05:06.05 | Shadowsong | :( they don't actually align the the bottom of the label box |
| 05:06.27 | JManV | no? |
| 05:07.49 | Shadowsong | See http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/6381/screenshot2011012123064.jpg |
| 05:08.17 | JManV | are you sure that's a bottom-aligned style? |
| 05:08.20 | Shadowsong | The label box is the full size for the dialog |
| 05:08.32 | Shadowsong | yea |
| 05:08.40 | JManV | are you sure the style still exists? |
| 05:09.45 | Shadowsong | -_- |
| 05:11.44 | Shadowsong | this part is really starting to piss me off |
| 05:12.18 | JManV | it's a pain the first time, but i actually recommend making your own styles |
| 05:13.49 | JManV | http://pastebin.com/5uar2eWM |
| 05:13.54 | JManV | that's my very simple one |
| 05:14.14 | JManV | then you import it, add it to the data real quick, and you can use those styles |
| 05:19.50 | Shadowsong | looks like it aligns to the bottom of the line not the entire box |
| 05:19.53 | Shadowsong | :( |
| 05:20.16 | onetwo | hey shadowsong |
| 05:20.23 | JManV | well, that makes things a lot more complicated |
| 05:20.23 | Shadowsong | Yea? |
| 05:20.24 | onetwo | what does it mean when stuff like unitInfo panel has 3 anchors |
| 05:20.26 | onetwo | <Anchor side="Top" relative="$parent" pos="Min" offset="0"/> <Anchor side="Bottom" relative="$parent" pos="Max" offset="0"/> <Anchor side="Left" relative="$parent" pos="Min" offset="0"/> |
| 05:20.37 | onetwo | you cant anchor to 3 sides |
| 05:20.55 | Shadowsong | you can have up to 4 anchors |
| 05:21.01 | onetwo | so what does that mean |
| 05:21.08 | Shadowsong | not sure yet |
| 05:21.12 | onetwo | i understand an anchor of top and right means top right |
| 05:21.17 | onetwo | but an anchor of top and botttom and left |
| 05:21.20 | onetwo | how the hell does that owrk out |
| 05:21.21 | onetwo | work |
| 05:21.22 | onetwo | lol |
| 05:21.25 | onetwo | damn ok |
| 05:22.31 | Shadowsong | JManV: so... |
| 05:23.01 | JManV | that's where i start running out of good answers |
| 05:23.15 | Shadowsong | see my problem? |
| 05:23.18 | JManV | you're not going to be able to tell how many lines a string is going to consume |
| 05:23.41 | JManV | you could allot a fixed space |
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| 05:24.21 | JManV | but i'm not sure you can get it working like the normal chat |
| 05:25.18 | Shadowsong | not sure either |
| 05:25.36 | Shadowsong | and chat scrolling is a whole other story |
| 05:27.15 | Dogmai | tell me if I missed anything |
| 05:27.17 | Dogmai | http://www.dogmai.org/blog/top-5-things-blizzard-needs-to-do-for-starcraft-ii/ |
| 05:30.16 | Skittles | a lot of the things listed there aren't even problems @.@ |
| 05:31.27 | onetwo | fuck so the unit info panel can move LOL |
| 05:31.32 | onetwo | but its been cutting off |
| 05:32.06 | onetwo | i would like most of the stuff dogmai listed |
| 05:32.25 | Dogmai | i didn't call them problems |
| 05:32.28 | Dogmai | i said they need to do |
| 05:32.31 | Dogmai | not fixes :P |
| 05:37.52 | Dogmai | oh wait |
| 05:37.54 | Dogmai | lawl |
| 05:37.56 | Dogmai | my image, ha |
| 05:39.53 | QueenGambit | Dogmai, why do u have nothing to say about clans? |
| 05:39.55 | QueenGambit | i love clans |
| 05:40.32 | Dogmai | because its obvious that it should have been included |
| 05:40.39 | QueenGambit | oh i c |
| 05:44.02 | onetwo | ah my god my brain is exploding |
| 05:44.05 | onetwo | doing sc2layouts |
| 05:44.12 | onetwo | some things move, others dont |
| 05:44.19 | onetwo | then moving an anchor makes it disappear |
| 05:44.23 | onetwo | etc |
| 05:44.32 | Skittles | but can't u already get the text of a players name and what not dogmai..? |
| 05:44.42 | Dogmai | text |
| 05:44.46 | Dogmai | but you cannot compare texts |
| 05:44.48 | Shadowsong | ... |
| 05:44.57 | Dogmai | nor can you convert them to strings |
| 05:45.34 | Dogmai | for example, if you wanted to make a leaderboard or banlist |
| 05:45.38 | Dogmai | its better to use strings |
| 05:51.05 | Skittles | Leaderboard with banking or in game? |
| 05:51.39 | onetwo | man ive clicked remove files, import, check off the box, import |
| 05:51.40 | onetwo | like 500 times now |
| 05:51.44 | onetwo | adjusting this dam UI |
| 05:55.16 | onetwo | wait |
| 05:55.20 | onetwo | i just understood something huge |
| 05:55.26 | onetwo | woo |
| 05:59.59 | Hedus | onetwo did you finish that sky tutorial? |
| 06:00.29 | Hedus | oh just run away when i talk to you ._. |
| 06:02.21 | Shadowsong | I could leave the text wrapping as I have it now and just work on the scrolling part (but my current wrapping isn't that good) |
| 06:08.12 | QueenGambit | Xaragoth, are u at the level where u have to cut your finger? |
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| 06:26.15 | Shadowsong | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/17541-text-wrapping/?unread |
| 06:26.18 | Shadowsong | anyone? |
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| 06:36.18 | two13 | anyone here for some help troubleshooting? |
| 06:37.48 | QueenGambit | Call JG wentworth |
| 06:37.52 | QueenGambit | 877-cash-now |
| 06:37.54 | QueenGambit | lol |
| 06:38.07 | two13 | kkkkk |
| 06:39.57 | two13 | i have a pretty serious bug, an aura's causing the game to crash when a unit dies with it on, anyone? |
| 06:41.34 | RyanWin | QueenGambit you there? |
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| 07:10.20 | QueenGambit | im here |
| 07:12.45 | Shadowsong | anyone? http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/17541-text-wrapping/ |
| 07:14.40 | QueenGambit | give it a few hours shadowsong, im sure someone will help u =D |
| 07:14.52 | QueenGambit | can't wait to use the finish product |
| 07:16.43 | Shadowsong | we'll see |
| 07:17.54 | Lilianna | :x |
| 07:18.05 | Lilianna | I want to know why my effects dont work. T_T |
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| 07:38.00 | QueenGambit | meow |
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| 07:38.33 | JManV | indeed. |
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| 07:56.18 | RyanWin | Hmmm.. so question here |
| 07:56.39 | RyanWin | Can animations be added to existing Starcraft units in 3ds max? |
| 08:01.01 | Dogmai | no idea |
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| 08:09.35 | soulcarver | hows everybody this fine evening |
| 08:12.18 | Sumo- | eh |
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| 08:27.39 | Sumo- | my weapon, it hits units with a buff, i want it to only hit units that dont have the buff already |
| 08:27.43 | Sumo- | how can i acheive that? |
| 08:28.04 | soulcarver | VALIDATOR |
| 08:28.14 | soulcarver | on the SEARCH EFFECt |
| 08:30.09 | Sumo- | ok |
| 08:30.17 | QueenGambit | soul |
| 08:30.35 | QueenGambit | soulcarver, Ryan and I were discussing how awesome FF6 is |
| 08:30.50 | QueenGambit | and how your kefka avatar is great :) |
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| 08:31.47 | soulcarver | kefka is a bad ass mother fucker |
| 08:31.58 | soulcarver | i wanted the laughing animation |
| 08:32.08 | Sumo- | soulcarver: if i do it like that, wont it keep trying to target the same unit over and over again |
| 08:32.12 | soulcarver | but then they said no animated gif... or theyd give you the unicorn |
| 08:32.13 | Sumo- | i want it to move onto another target? |
| 08:32.48 | Sumo- | or is that why u use a search validator and not an ordinary validate or on effect |
| 08:33.10 | Sumo- | cause i'm using a launch missile |
| 08:33.14 | Sumo- | :/ |
| 08:35.02 | Thial | does GameOver not work while being in an initialization trigger? |
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| 08:36.46 | Thial | i want to check if the bank was manipulated on map initialization - i want to end the game for users who modified the bank, but the game does not end |
| 08:38.20 | Sumo- | i managed to get it to work purely on launch missile validators |
| 08:38.24 | Sumo- | thnx for the assist |
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| 08:51.07 | maknyuzz | hi guys |
| 08:51.20 | maknyuzz | anyone know the style name for command name? |
| 08:51.50 | maknyuzz | im trying to apply style for text. i want it to look like the font in the command card |
| 08:51.53 | maknyuzz | the 1st line |
| 08:52.02 | maknyuzz | anyone know? I couldnt find it |
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| 09:51.49 | Sumo- | hey um |
| 09:51.58 | Sumo- | are there any admins for the website around/ |
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| 09:57.45 | casperb | Any ideas on how to share ability cooldowns with Attack |
| 10:02.29 | casperb | Thought i could just give the weapons and abiltiy the same cost cooldown but appearantly not -_- |
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| 11:57.24 | slaydon | purl, what is the fear of long words? |
| 11:57.25 | purl | slaydon: what are you talking about? |
| 11:57.36 | slaydon | purl, what is fear of long words? |
| 11:57.37 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, fear of long words is hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia |
| 11:57.58 | slaydon | k thx |
| 11:58.01 | slaydon | i keep forgetting |
| 11:58.45 | slaydon | ~seen curt'on |
| 11:58.48 | purl | slaydon: i haven't seen 'curt'on' |
| 11:58.55 | slaydon | ~seen nodyals |
| 11:58.55 | purl | nodyals <50cbea51@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.203.234.81> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 14d 15h 27m 25s ago, saying: 'you could make more based on your bank files in more maps, like a map, a 1v1 one or / and a tourney one against players using your "pokemons" lul'. |
| 11:59.09 | slaydon | o_O |
| 11:59.15 | slaydon | Nodyals is a noob |
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| 12:17.12 | XenoX101[sc2] | so what we all up to atm? |
| 12:42.31 | Helral | me*yawns* |
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| 12:43.54 | casperb | wondering what UnitWeaponPeriod is supposed to do -_- |
| 12:44.14 | casperb | returns 16 when the weapon period is .5 |
| 12:47.19 | casperb | found a new feature tho, if you set the missile ammo to something that does not exist, it launches the caster |
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| 13:15.01 | Sumo- | i just played a version of my map with some different ppl that usual, and my game bugged out really hard, it stopped drawing actors |
| 13:15.07 | Stewox | www.dukenukemforever.com |
| 13:15.27 | Sumo- | i sold up my base and it started drawing actors and sounds for the other players again |
| 13:15.30 | Sumo- | whats the deal with that? |
| 13:15.37 | Sumo- | anyone ever experience shit like that? |
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| 13:34.28 | casperb | Any idea what UnitWeaponPeriod is supposed to be? ^^ |
| 13:34.34 | casperb | hate having unknown parts of an api -.- |
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| 14:00.02 | Sumo- | i have an issue, i have a critter, and i set his hp bars to show using a trigger, but if i hold alt down, its status bar doesnt show, but other units do, why |
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| 14:25.55 | Helral | sumo: cause it's a critter. |
| 14:26.12 | Helral | ow he left already ;p |
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| 14:52.54 | HeliosDoubleSix | hi I'm struggling to find a solution, is there a built in command to spawn the starting units and structures and apply an AI to that, to pick player race and AI difficult and spawn that player basically |
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| 15:11.20 | Helral | HeliosDoubleSix: the melee init actions |
| 15:11.28 | HeliosDoubleSix | yah tried that |
| 15:11.52 | Helral | should spawn a starting building, 5 workers. |
| 15:11.57 | HeliosDoubleSix | I know that works if you have manually placed the structure before hand, but I need this to basically turn a human set player into an AI player.. I think |
| 15:12.31 | Helral | if you want to adjust what it spawns check the data editor --> races type. |
| 15:12.38 | HeliosDoubleSix | right thats great |
| 15:12.42 | Helral | it spawns it at the start location of that player. |
| 15:12.46 | HeliosDoubleSix | but |
| 15:12.52 | HeliosDoubleSix | I'm creating a multiplayer map for humans |
| 15:12.57 | HeliosDoubleSix | but when I test build it |
| 15:13.02 | Helral | mmm |
| 15:13.03 | HeliosDoubleSix | I want it to spawn an AI player in humans place |
| 15:13.27 | Helral | with the test document function? |
| 15:13.28 | HeliosDoubleSix | so I dont want to have to keep going back and forth changing the player type, I just want it to do that in code |
| 15:13.32 | HeliosDoubleSix | yah with test document |
| 15:13.46 | HeliosDoubleSix | as test document gives you no access to pick the starting values, players or anything like in the real game screen |
| 15:14.15 | Helral | hmmm I think the easiest way would be just setting 1 player to computer in the player properties. |
| 15:14.50 | HeliosDoubleSix | It's a shame there no way to test a map and have it show the starting selection screen |
| 15:15.08 | Helral | upload it to bnet and test it privately. ;p |
| 15:15.13 | HeliosDoubleSix | yah pia |
| 15:15.16 | HeliosDoubleSix | :-P |
| 15:15.27 | HeliosDoubleSix | oh well |
| 15:15.42 | HeliosDoubleSix | so I guess there no way you could say take a player that left a game and have an AI take over |
| 15:15.45 | HeliosDoubleSix | even if they took over badly |
| 15:16.15 | HeliosDoubleSix | oh wait I guess you could if you transfered ownership of units actually |
| 15:16.47 | HeliosDoubleSix | but you can't literally switch out a player slots human/ai status |
| 15:16.54 | HeliosDoubleSix | youd just have to allot slots to the AI before hand |
| 15:17.20 | HeliosDoubleSix | and there are 14 slots now so I guess that could work |
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| 15:20.43 | casperb | 32 player slots actually :p |
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| 15:29.34 | HeliosDoubleSix | ok next problem, if I add an AI player slot |
| 15:29.51 | HeliosDoubleSix | how do I stop that being used/spawned if I detect 2 human player is present |
| 15:30.10 | HeliosDoubleSix | oh wait, I know, I'm using the Melee - create starting units for ALL |
| 15:30.30 | HeliosDoubleSix | it has one for creating only for specific playersright, so I can just loop thru a player group of only human players |
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| 15:56.55 | HeliosDoubleSix | sorted it I think :_0 |
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| 16:10.09 | doite | Just saw "127 hours". What a movie! |
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| 16:11.25 | UloseTheGame | hello sc2mapster community |
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| 16:14.17 | doite | hello |
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| 16:57.23 | doite | im to hangover to remember shit.. Whats that action called where u hide the units health bar |
| 16:57.30 | doite | hide... bar |
| 17:03.07 | wOlfLinG | i is gayy |
| 17:04.14 | harl | gz |
| 17:04.23 | doite | unnice |
| 17:04.31 | doite | ... em i did not say that |
| 17:04.34 | doite | i said nice |
| 17:04.43 | doite | but the un was.. why am i explaining |
| 17:04.53 | doite | guys whats the action called where u hide the unit bar |
| 17:05.04 | doite | force... hide.. |
| 17:05.07 | doite | no.. DAMMIT |
| 17:05.33 | harl | "secret hidden hide unit bar action"? |
| 17:06.08 | doite | yea |
| 17:06.13 | doite | but the one without that name |
| 17:08.16 | harl | "secret hidden hide unit bar action (the other one named differently)"? |
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| 17:08.54 | doite | mm |
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| 17:15.21 | Icebane | Hey peeps, how can I turn "Triggering Ability Used" into a string so that I can create for example a dialog item (label) with the name of the ability used? |
| 17:15.42 | Icebane | I think I should use the catalog but I dunno how |
| 17:16.33 | doite | found it |
| 17:16.36 | doite | status bar |
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| 17:23.05 | Dustin| | Blizzard is flying that worldo f starcraft dude down to blizzard? |
| 17:23.09 | Dustin| | But why... |
| 17:23.42 | Jum-Jum | because of his huge dedication? |
| 17:23.46 | Dustin| | lol what |
| 17:24.03 | Jum-Jum | i havent seen any other mod |
| 17:24.05 | Jum-Jum | in sc2 |
| 17:24.13 | Jum-Jum | thats been modified like that |
| 17:24.53 | Dustin| | Seriously? |
| 17:25.08 | Dustin| | All he did was make a crappy UI and some basic wasd triggers/ abilities |
| 17:25.35 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.38 | doite | didnt work |
| 17:25.43 | doite | what is the other one called |
| 17:42.46 | Fisker | Dustin| exposure obviously |
| 17:43.06 | Fisker | basically it's your own damn fault |
| 17:45.12 | Dustin| | Eh, we'll see when Ruthless is done |
| 17:47.19 | Xaragoth | looooooool |
| 17:47.25 | Dustin| | :D |
| 17:47.32 | Xaragoth | because the german USK and our politicans had a little war regarding the rating for Dead Space 2 |
| 17:47.43 | Xaragoth | GameStar had to make a giant "Top Game" Video about DOTA |
| 17:47.45 | Xaragoth | like |
| 17:47.46 | Xaragoth | the old one |
| 17:47.50 | Xaragoth | not the new one from valve |
| 17:47.51 | Xaragoth | but DotA |
| 17:47.58 | Xaragoth | ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? |
| 17:48.27 | Jum-Jum | really? |
| 17:48.28 | Jum-Jum | why? |
| 17:48.44 | Jum-Jum | Because they couldn't make one about dead space 2 they had to replace it with something else? :S |
| 17:48.50 | Xaragoth | yes |
| 17:48.56 | Xaragoth | the couldn't even test dead space 2 properly |
| 17:49.07 | Xaragoth | they wanted to ban dead space 2 here in germany, because of the brutality |
| 17:49.15 | Xaragoth | we get it uncut, usk 18 now |
| 17:49.19 | Xaragoth | but no more teamkilling in mp |
| 17:49.27 | Xaragoth | seems cutting your pals in half is bad |
| 17:49.32 | Xaragoth | cuts Sixen in half. |
| 17:49.36 | Xaragoth | I don't see their point. |
| 17:50.20 | Xaragoth | but, oh well, another UK import on my list :O |
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| 17:53.28 | Jum-Jum | so stupid |
| 17:53.33 | ducky | hi |
| 17:53.46 | Jum-Jum | throws breadpieces on the ground |
| 17:54.25 | ducky | guys, do press button events generate delay only for thier triggers or for whole game? |
| 17:55.00 | Dustin| | they dont generate delay |
| 17:55.13 | Dustin| | They have a small delay before the game processes them |
| 17:58.01 | ducky | ah, thanks |
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| 18:20.40 | ThunderLord | Is it possible to hide the background image of a command button? |
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| 18:28.39 | SouLCarveR | anybody here familiar with doing bullet projectiles? |
| 18:31.30 | Helral | ThunderLord: background image? |
| 18:31.47 | ThunderLord | yes |
| 18:31.49 | Helral | SouLCarveR: not me. |
| 18:31.54 | ThunderLord | if you import an image |
| 18:31.59 | ThunderLord | 76x76 |
| 18:32.04 | ThunderLord | completely transparent |
| 18:32.13 | ThunderLord | and assign it as the button for an ability |
| 18:32.24 | ThunderLord | you will see that there is a background image for every button |
| 18:32.32 | ThunderLord | for terran |
| 18:32.35 | ThunderLord | it is green |
| 18:32.41 | ThunderLord | and has the border |
| 18:32.51 | ThunderLord | my plan |
| 18:32.52 | Helral | thats the tinting that you see ;p |
| 18:33.03 | ThunderLord | not only tinting |
| 18:33.06 | ThunderLord | but also boarder |
| 18:33.12 | ThunderLord | if i was able to make that invisable |
| 18:33.20 | ThunderLord | i would be able to put a dialog image behind it |
| 18:33.22 | ThunderLord | and then |
| 18:33.31 | Helral | well you can check the commandcardbutton Layout ;p |
| 18:33.31 | ThunderLord | make it so i can change the image of abilitys in the game |
| 18:33.57 | ThunderLord | the custom layout file? |
| 18:34.11 | ThunderLord | like the new text thingy that is so super cool?! |
| 18:37.25 | Helral | GameButton.SC2Layout contains the root layout for the commandcardbuttons |
| 18:37.45 | Helral | but these are also used for other buttons I suppose. |
| 18:41.18 | SouLCarveR | anybody here extremely knowlegable in the Game Camera? |
| 18:42.37 | JManV | i know a few things |
| 18:44.13 | JManV | what do you need to know? |
| 18:45.39 | SouLCarveR | Jmanv |
| 18:45.41 | SouLCarveR | still there |
| 18:45.43 | SouLCarveR | check http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/17520-camera-height-v-s-terrain-height-round-1-fight/#p5 |
| 18:46.02 | SouLCarveR | I have a ongoing thing there about what im running into with problems with my cameras |
| 18:46.17 | SouLCarveR | basically i need static FPS views in tight corridors |
| 18:46.27 | SouLCarveR | with out the camara automatically readjusting itself |
| 18:47.10 | SouLCarveR | or I need to create some methods to cope with the camera's auto adjusting..... or I need to disable the game from auto adjusting the camera completely |
| 18:48.05 | JManV | auto adjusting? |
| 18:48.19 | SouLCarveR | yes |
| 18:48.27 | SouLCarveR | field of view tends to auto adjust |
| 18:49.04 | SouLCarveR | if you could look at my topic there |
| 18:49.18 | SouLCarveR | and add any additional information it would be greatly appreciated |
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| 18:51.29 | JManV | i'm sorry, i'm not sure |
| 18:52.33 | SouLCarveR | k |
| 18:58.44 | SouLCarveR | can anybody verify that panning actually pans the camera in regards to the camera target or the camera source? |
| 18:58.51 | SouLCarveR | i think thats part of my problem |
| 18:59.21 | ThunderLord | Is it possible to customize where a tooltip is displayed? like in the layout you can choose where you want your command card button tooltips to go but if i wanted dialog button tooltips to go there too? |
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| 19:23.50 | ThunderLord | hummm i seems that however i change the Gamebutton layout file it does nothing |
| 19:24.10 | ThunderLord | even if i make it totally blank |
| 19:24.19 | Helral | where did you import it to? |
| 19:25.08 | Helral | on the import window in the sc2editor it should have the following path: UI/Layout/UI. |
| 19:25.10 | ThunderLord | Ui/layout/ui |
| 19:25.29 | ThunderLord | yup |
| 19:25.37 | ThunderLord | ive been messsing with it for the past few days |
| 19:26.06 | ThunderLord | ive moved my minimap and my command cards already |
| 19:26.22 | ThunderLord | its intresting |
| 19:26.33 | ThunderLord | maybe the game button ui does not do anything? |
| 19:26.41 | ThunderLord | has anyone tried working with this yet? |
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| 19:29.12 | Tordy | Mephs |
| 19:29.16 | Tordy | yay mephs is here :) |
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| 19:30.14 | doite | this is so fucked up |
| 19:30.15 | doite | stupid bug |
| 19:30.31 | doite | i turn off game ui in begining of game |
| 19:30.42 | doite | then i turn it on at a later point |
| 19:30.47 | doite | but it doesnt work |
| 19:30.52 | doite | the turning on thing |
| 19:31.03 | ThunderLord | turn on everything? |
| 19:31.05 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.10 | doite | yea |
| 19:31.11 | ThunderLord | and you get a TON!!!!! of stuf on the screen? |
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| 19:31.19 | ThunderLord | you have to enable each thing individualy |
| 19:31.23 | doite | sigh |
| 19:31.28 | ThunderLord | enable ui frame |
| 19:31.31 | ThunderLord | and fine each thing |
| 19:31.37 | ThunderLord | command card |
| 19:31.37 | doite | k thanks |
| 19:31.39 | ThunderLord | minimap |
| 19:31.43 | ThunderLord | ummmmmm |
| 19:31.48 | ThunderLord | resource |
| 19:31.54 | ThunderLord | message |
| 19:31.55 | ThunderLord | menu |
| 19:31.58 | ThunderLord | there are alot |
| 19:32.25 | Thorgan | Hey guys, |
| 19:32.34 | Thorgan | I just tried to create an account on sc2mapster |
| 19:32.37 | Thorgan | but it doesnt work q.q |
| 19:32.58 | doite | but thunderlord |
| 19:33.03 | ThunderLord | yeah? |
| 19:33.05 | doite | it doesnt show a bunch of things |
| 19:33.07 | Thorgan | any of you guys have a clue about that stuff :>? |
| 19:33.08 | doite | it shows nothing |
| 19:33.17 | doite | check your email thorgan |
| 19:33.19 | ThunderLord | oh rllllyyY?Y?Y?Y |
| 19:33.22 | Tordy | so anyone else experiencing the failed bank validation? |
| 19:33.22 | ThunderLord | hummmm |
| 19:33.24 | doite | m |
| 19:33.25 | Thorgan | na |
| 19:33.37 | ThunderLord | soooo, maybe disable each thing individually? |
| 19:33.40 | Thorgan | when I send the form I just get "bad request" |
| 19:33.48 | ThunderLord | then re-inable each thing individually? |
| 19:33.49 | Thorgan | and no e-mail is sent |
| 19:34.09 | ThunderLord | Thorgan are you trying to hack mapster? |
| 19:34.17 | Thorgan | I am? |
| 19:34.28 | Thorgan | I don't think I am |
| 19:34.35 | ThunderLord | well that would explaine everything |
| 19:34.58 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 19:35.04 | Thorgan | :/ |
| 19:35.29 | Thorgan | could it be a firefox addon? |
| 19:35.33 | ThunderLord | well are you sure that ur e-mail is valid? |
| 19:35.36 | ThunderLord | meybeh |
| 19:35.41 | ThunderLord | i dont use firefox |
| 19:35.58 | ThunderLord | if ur using firefox |
| 19:36.06 | ThunderLord | then i suggest you download opera |
| 19:36.08 | ThunderLord | try it with that |
| 19:36.14 | Thorgan | kk |
| 19:36.14 | ThunderLord | and then stay with opera |
| 19:36.18 | ThunderLord | cuz opera rules |
| 19:36.24 | ThunderLord | and i signed up no prob with opera |
| 19:36.28 | Thorgan | I'll try some other browser |
| 19:36.30 | doite | works now |
| 19:36.33 | doite | i use game ui |
| 19:36.33 | doite | still |
| 19:37.06 | doite | doesnt show a bunch of stuff.. only thing it does is to hide and show the content which u have selected |
| 19:37.37 | ThunderLord | hummm? |
| 19:39.33 | Helral | doite at what point do you use the first hide? |
| 19:39.35 | Helral | at map init? |
| 19:39.47 | Tordy | so anyone else experiencing the failed bank validation? |
| 19:39.57 | Helral | Tordy: not me |
| 19:40.31 | Tordy | like a rare failure |
| 19:40.33 | Tordy | like mephs |
| 19:40.44 | Tordy | his map is popular enough for many people to play it |
| 19:40.53 | Tordy | he gets like 1/100 cases where bank validation fails |
| 19:41.01 | Tordy | im worred!!! :[ |
| 19:42.41 | doite | Helral, i fixed it |
| 19:42.59 | doite | dont know what happend, but i just placed it as i had in the same trigger.. but at another location |
| 19:43.32 | Helral | ok I was about to suggest to place it in a elapsed 0.00 gametime seconds trigger. |
| 19:45.03 | ThunderLord | Helral have you ever done anything with the "gamebutton" layout file? |
| 19:45.18 | Helral | nope |
| 19:45.50 | Helral | but seeing what you want, couldn't you just place a dialog over the command card? |
| 19:47.41 | ThunderLord | yup |
| 19:47.45 | ThunderLord | thats the end goal |
| 19:47.46 | ThunderLord | but |
| 19:47.50 | ThunderLord | to make things easy |
| 19:47.56 | ThunderLord | i want to make it set up |
| 19:48.05 | ThunderLord | so you layer a dialog item over the button |
| 19:48.06 | ThunderLord | but then |
| 19:48.12 | ThunderLord | when you press the button |
| 19:48.16 | ThunderLord | execute the ability |
| 19:48.30 | ThunderLord | you cannot see the cooldown shadeing |
| 19:49.03 | Helral | hmmm I think someone already got that to work the cooldown display. |
| 19:50.06 | ThunderLord | on a dialog item? ive been using a while loop that reduces a real var by .1 ever .1 seconds and updates the display test on a dialog button |
| 19:50.14 | ThunderLord | text* |
| 19:50.59 | Cheekything | Is there a way to use circles instead of squares on the mini map? |
| 19:51.44 | ThunderLord | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL0AAso722E |
| 19:51.50 | ThunderLord | cheekything |
| 19:51.55 | ThunderLord | i got that goin on in that map |
| 19:52.00 | ThunderLord | but i have a overlay image |
| 19:52.23 | Helral | hmmmm circles instead of squares.... |
| 19:52.48 | ThunderLord | and helral in that same video it shows how i set up my buttons and how my cooldown worked, now that we got custom layout 1.2 im trying to upgrade |
| 19:53.00 | ThunderLord | at around the 30 second mark |
| 19:53.21 | ThunderLord | i want to put my command card buttons under those dialog items |
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| 19:57.10 | EternalWraith | QueenGambit: Someone was looking for you yesterday on Irc. Forgot who though. |
| 19:57.40 | ThunderLord | will that type of thing work for you cheekything? or do you need to make things rlly difficult? lol |
| 19:57.58 | Cheekything | sorry was distracted |
| 19:58.13 | Cheekything | but an overlay would work |
| 19:58.33 | Cheekything | I just dont like they way the squares look above a set size |
| 19:58.35 | ThunderLord | then throw it in as a screen image |
| 19:58.42 | QueenGambit | oh okay |
| 19:59.06 | Cheekything | how do i do that? |
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| 19:59.23 | ThunderLord | do you already have gimp? |
| 19:59.53 | Cheekything | I have photoshop |
| 20:00.03 | QueenGambit | photoshop ftw =) |
| 20:00.08 | QueenGambit | gimp is great though |
| 20:01.10 | Xaragoth | I wonder who allowed retards in the eu bnet mapster channel |
| 20:01.28 | Cheekything | blizzard did |
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| 20:01.36 | ThunderLord_ | sorry my irc fliped out |
| 20:01.42 | ThunderLord_ | can ur photoshop mod .dds? |
| 20:01.47 | Cheekything | yup |
| 20:01.50 | ThunderLord_ | K |
| 20:01.58 | ThunderLord_ | i can try and send you the overlay that i made |
| 20:02.02 | Cheekything | though .tga works just as well I've found |
| 20:02.16 | ThunderLord_ | rlly? you can import .tga to sc? |
| 20:02.20 | ThunderLord_ | interesting |
| 20:02.20 | Cheekything | yup |
| 20:02.27 | Cheekything | I did it by mistake |
| 20:02.29 | ThunderLord_ | ill send you the left overlay that i made |
| 20:02.33 | Cheekything | cool |
| 20:02.39 | ThunderLord_ | you can see how i did it |
| 20:02.41 | ThunderLord_ | i had to measure |
| 20:02.58 | Lilianna | \o/ My turret ability all works now |
| 20:03.01 | ThunderLord_ | and ill explain how to anchor and insert it at the right point and size |
| 20:03.14 | Cheekything | ah ok |
| 20:03.37 | ThunderLord_ | how can i send a small file over the internet? anyone know? |
| 20:03.55 | QueenGambit | many ways, email |
| 20:03.58 | QueenGambit | 4shared.com |
| 20:03.59 | Lilianna | Upload, email, IM transfer? |
| 20:04.00 | QueenGambit | dropbox |
| 20:04.21 | Helral | attaching it to a SC2Mapster PM ;p |
| 20:04.36 | ThunderLord_ | ill do that |
| 20:04.41 | EternalWraith | Lol |
| 20:04.43 | Lilianna | Imma see if I can get away with my map only having a trigger for scoreboard stuff. xFD |
| 20:04.44 | ThunderLord_ | cheekything whats ur sc2 mapster thing? |
| 20:04.45 | Lilianna | xD |
| 20:05.41 | Cheekything | Rileyb80 |
| 20:06.24 | Helral | EternalWraith: I just noticed I don't have the tools to create dds/tga files here ;p so you might need to get someone else to make those adjustments to the experience bar and command buttons (unless that glow is standard available). |
| 20:08.22 | EternalWraith | Helral: *Takes a deep breath* |
| 20:08.30 | EternalWraith | ;p |
| 20:08.35 | Xaragoth | god, how I hate that Heavy Rain wants to make me play happy family |
| 20:09.02 | QueenGambit | no u can just f up all the levels and not save your son =P |
| 20:09.32 | Xaragoth | i know, but it takes so damn long to wait xD |
| 20:11.01 | EternalWraith | Helral: Use default assets. Atleast make the xp bar look sexy somehow. Its fugly in its current state. And, what of the command buttons?. It makes use of default assets like I told you. You have to kinda make it work here.;p |
| 20:12.00 | Helral | well I'll first finish removing the unneeded stuff, like the resource panel. |
| 20:12.57 | ThunderLord_ | Cheekything you got an e-mail? |
| 20:15.02 | Cheekything | nope |
| 20:15.14 | Cheekything | oh you mean to send |
| 20:15.18 | Cheekything | sorry thought you sent it |
| 20:15.39 | Cheekything | there you go |
| 20:16.46 | Helral | lol |
| 20:16.51 | ThunderLord_ | sent it |
| 20:17.10 | ThunderLord_ | i spent a long time coming up with that, im glad someone else gets to benefit from it lol |
| 20:17.23 | ThunderLord_ | cuz im trashing that system right now, my work wont be in vein |
| 20:17.30 | Cheekything | cheers |
| 20:17.46 | ThunderLord_ | i hope it works for you |
| 20:18.50 | Cheekything | me too :D |
| 20:20.29 | ThunderLord_ | let me know |
| 20:20.39 | ThunderLord_ | now, back to that dialog button thing |
| 20:22.42 | doite | how do i slightly turn a gate? |
| 20:22.56 | doite | only options are horizontal and vertical |
| 20:23.00 | doite | i want it inbetween |
| 20:23.04 | doite | diagonal |
| 20:23.22 | ThunderLord_ | like in the terrain editor? |
| 20:23.27 | ThunderLord_ | you can press space |
| 20:23.28 | doite | lol |
| 20:23.31 | doite | nvm there was one |
| 20:23.32 | ThunderLord_ | and double click it |
| 20:23.36 | QueenGambit | ez, you just have to look at it diagonally ;) |
| 20:23.42 | ThunderLord_ | and then put in ur own custom angle |
| 20:25.03 | Cheekything | ah i see what you meant thunder |
| 20:25.14 | Cheekything | I was more meaning the unit icons on the minimap |
| 20:25.30 | Cheekything | much as this is very cool |
| 20:25.46 | Cheekything | means i can add my own custom skin :) |
| 20:28.43 | Cheekything | just wondering does this auto adjust to whatever resolution? |
| 20:29.18 | ThunderLord_ | oh |
| 20:29.20 | ThunderLord_ | how it works is |
| 20:29.26 | ThunderLord_ | like |
| 20:29.33 | ThunderLord_ | it is anchored to bottom left right? |
| 20:29.41 | Cheekything | yup |
| 20:29.42 | ThunderLord_ | in my game on the vid you saw |
| 20:29.49 | ThunderLord_ | there was another one on the right |
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| 20:29.56 | ThunderLord_ | and they were longer than they needed to be |
| 20:30.01 | ThunderLord_ | so regardless on the resolution |
| 20:30.06 | ThunderLord_ | they overlaped in the mid |
| 20:30.19 | pirate | has anyone been able to import the Illidan WoW model? |
| 20:30.21 | ThunderLord_ | because they are anchored to the screen edges |
| 20:30.24 | ThunderLord_ | they do |
| 20:30.59 | ThunderLord_ | because the sizes of each interface frame does not change itself |
| 20:31.18 | ThunderLord_ | based on resolution |
| 20:31.32 | Cheekything | ah ok |
| 20:31.33 | Cheekything | cool |
| 20:31.38 | Cheekything | and pirate I've been trying |
| 20:31.41 | Cheekything | someone has done it |
| 20:31.52 | pirate | how? |
| 20:31.56 | Cheekything | and reskined it as well |
| 20:32.00 | pirate | it just crashes me repeatdly |
| 20:32.01 | ThunderLord_ | so like, in the game you saw, there were 2 sets of 3 buttons, that vid was shot on regular res. on wide screen they are much farther apart |
| 20:32.58 | pirate | i dont care about the skin too much-- it's got so many great animations that i want |
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| 20:33.09 | Cheekything | you cant import it directly |
| 20:33.13 | Cheekything | it needs editing |
| 20:33.30 | pirate | arg |
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| 20:33.59 | Cheekything | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/artist-tavern/4587-model-showcase-warcraft-3-heros-revamped/ |
| 20:34.02 | Cheekything | there you go pirate |
| 20:34.09 | Cheekything | thats the guy who's done it |
| 20:34.19 | pirate | oh... |
| 20:34.22 | Cheekything | triceron |
| 20:34.32 | Cheekything | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S05Nw0iMhSU&feature=player_embedded |
| 20:34.32 | pirate | not quite what im talking about |
| 20:34.44 | pirate | i want the demony form, with the wings, and the flying |
| 20:34.53 | Cheekything | I gather that |
| 20:34.58 | Cheekything | it's part of the same model |
| 20:36.03 | Cheekything | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/artist-tavern/17108-wc3-to-sc2-model-conversion/ |
| 20:36.09 | Cheekything | this might help you as well |
| 20:36.18 | Cheekything | but this is WC3 to SC2 |
| 20:36.32 | Cheekything | however far as i know no one has been able to get illidan to work from SC2 |
| 20:36.54 | Cheekything | I really want him and the dreadlord for my map |
| 20:36.57 | Cheekything | and no luck so far |
| 20:37.14 | pirate | yeah... |
| 20:37.28 | pirate | i want the warlock demon form |
| 20:37.39 | pirate | but i think i may have to settle with dreadlord |
| 20:38.06 | Cheekything | warlock? |
| 20:38.06 | Cheekything | as in from WoW? |
| 20:38.32 | pirate | yes |
| 20:38.50 | pirate | model is buggy |
| 20:39.01 | pirate | and has all these weird projections |
| 20:40.55 | Cheekything | what's it's name in wow? |
| 20:41.37 | pirate | demonform.m2 |
| 20:41.53 | pirate | under creatures |
| 20:42.11 | Cheekything | wait does that not import |
| 20:42.23 | pirate | it imports okay |
| 20:42.32 | pirate | but the in-editor model is broken |
| 20:42.41 | pirate | and in game model is broken |
| 20:42.46 | Cheekything | lemme have a look at it |
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| 20:47.27 | ThunderLord_ | quick question, how do i change the assets references for custom layouts? |
| 20:47.38 | Sixen | ~seen lonami |
| 20:47.42 | purl | i haven't seen 'lonami', Sixen |
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| 20:48.39 | Cheekything | ok pirate i see what you mean |
| 20:48.45 | Cheekything | that is stupid :/ |
| 20:48.53 | pirate | yup |
| 20:49.18 | Cheekything | so like all the models i could use it's broken xD |
| 20:50.42 | Cheekything | I think talking to someone who understands how 3DS MAX works would be the best bet |
| 20:50.46 | pirate | all 3 variations are borked |
| 20:51.13 | Cheekything | does demon hunter work? |
| 20:51.40 | pirate | yes and no |
| 20:51.47 | pirate | theres a large cystal in the middle of it |
| 20:51.52 | Cheekything | ah that was it |
| 20:52.00 | pirate | but it also doesnt have any interesting animations |
| 20:52.11 | Cheekything | like the dreadlord has his armour above his head |
| 20:54.21 | pirate | Dreadlord is also unusable you say? |
| 20:54.31 | Helral | ~seen onetwo |
| 20:54.34 | purl | onetwo <ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 14h 59m 8s ago, saying: 'woo'. |
| 20:55.53 | pirate | there goes all my cool winged monster models... |
| 20:56.04 | Cheekything | I'm sure someone will touch them up |
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| 20:58.19 | RyanWin | Anyone in here work with 3ds max? |
| 21:02.38 | Shawn|Rawr | no |
| 21:02.48 | Shawn|Rawr | Err.. not me |
| 21:03.33 | Tordy | so pure |
| 21:04.02 | QueenGambit | Triggering on my Desert Strike Night begins now! |
| 21:04.09 | QueenGambit | alright lets start with map initilization |
| 21:05.11 | ThunderLord_ | dang...how can you make a dialog item go behind an interface item like a command button? |
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| 21:09.26 | pirate | speaking of reskinning models |
| 21:09.47 | pirate | where in the MPQs are they..? |
| 21:10.48 | avogatro1 | assets |
| 21:11.10 | avogatro1 | find the biggest file |
| 21:11.14 | pirate | ty |
| 21:11.28 | avogatro1 | i think it is easier to use the editor export the model |
| 21:11.30 | avogatro1 | then edit it |
| 21:12.02 | avogatro1 | search in forum for import export m3 data |
| 21:17.19 | RyanWin | alright took care of that, but when models are exported from the edtor to 3ds max, textures are lost/messed up, anyone know what the deal is with that? |
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| 21:21.07 | Cheekything | nope but it's very annoying |
| 21:21.37 | Cheekything | intrestingly though the textures you export goto the export folder where as the model will rip set ones when it's exported |
| 21:22.12 | Cheekything | and some of the models just dont handle the conversion well enough |
| 21:23.42 | QueenGambit | and so dialog begins... |
| 21:23.54 | RyanWin | sux 2 b u |
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| 21:24.47 | RyanWin | QueenGambit: http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/14457-dialog-designer-beta-1/ |
| 21:26.01 | QueenGambit | oh thx RyanWin |
| 21:26.09 | RyanWin | np, it owns |
| 21:26.30 | RyanWin | thank the guy who made it |
| 21:28.07 | pirate | can TGA files handle alpha? |
| 21:28.10 | QueenGambit | pushes read button |
| 21:28.14 | QueenGambit | fail! |
| 21:28.17 | QueenGambit | red* |
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| 21:31.34 | RyanWin | hey |
| 21:32.03 | RyanWin | treigzak this is where all the modders for sc2 hang out |
| 21:32.11 | RyanWin | well a lot of them at least |
| 21:32.42 | RyanWin | there might be some 3d guys in here who can help out |
| 21:33.09 | RyanWin | but I need to afk for a little bit |
| 21:33.17 | RyanWin | ttyl |
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| 21:33.30 | treigzak | sweet |
| 21:34.31 | QueenGambit | hi treigzak |
| 21:34.58 | treigzak | trying to figure out why the rigs are absolute garbage :P blizz cant possibly make rigs this awful so im probably doing something wrong when exporting the m3s |
| 21:35.33 | treigzak | or maybe its the importer plugin |
| 21:35.41 | QueenGambit | hrmmm i wouldn't know |
| 21:35.45 | avogatro | rigs? |
| 21:36.07 | treigzak | character skeletons |
| 21:36.34 | avogatro | :O |
| 21:37.14 | treigzak | used for animation |
| 21:37.40 | avogatro | wire frame? |
| 21:39.42 | RyanWin | Xaragoth you awake? |
| 21:39.46 | RyanWin | he would know |
| 21:39.48 | RyanWin | maybe |
| 21:39.51 | Xaragoth | what is it? |
| 21:40.04 | Xaragoth | I'm very busy flaming people on the forums, you interrupted my daily rage |
| 21:40.06 | RyanWin | treigzaks question |
| 21:40.11 | RyanWin | LOL |
| 21:40.35 | Xaragoth | so |
| 21:40.41 | Xaragoth | what exactly is your problem? |
| 21:41.19 | Xaragoth | do your export things from other games that you should not import into sc2? :P |
| 21:41.51 | RyanWin | no hes trying to export SC2 units, add custom animations to them, then reimport them into the edtior |
| 21:41.54 | RyanWin | but hes losing the textures |
| 21:42.45 | RyanWin | using 3ds max |
| 21:42.48 | treigzak | and the rigs themselves are pretty bad |
| 21:43.01 | treigzak | only fk feet for example |
| 21:44.25 | RyanWin | xaragoth is probably flaming people still |
| 21:44.41 | Xaragoth | the rigs are as they need to be, to be honest |
| 21:44.58 | Xaragoth | they don't need to be anything beyond what they are, because for blizz, they work fine that way |
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| 21:45.15 | Xaragoth | and losing the textures is him, messing up on the exporter :p |
| 21:45.40 | Bibendus | may the hive be with you |
| 21:45.49 | Xaragoth | ello Bibendus |
| 21:45.53 | Bibendus | hey xa |
| 21:45.59 | Bibendus | this stupid flash game is consuming my life :D |
| 21:46.04 | ThunderLord_ | it it possible to make a dialog item render beneath the regular UIs, like command buttons |
| 21:47.57 | Xaragoth | no idea |
| 21:48.01 | Xaragoth | which one Bibendus? :D |
| 21:48.08 | Bibendus | dungeon overlord |
| 21:48.13 | Bibendus | its a dungeon keeper style game :| |
| 21:48.15 | Tordy | im worred!!! :[ |
| 21:48.18 | Xaragoth | isn't that dungeons the flashgame? :D |
| 21:48.18 | Tordy | he gets like 1/100 cases where bank validation fails |
| 21:48.21 | Tordy | so anyone else experiencing the failed bank validation? |
| 21:48.28 | Bibendus | dungeons is a whole game |
| 21:48.31 | Bibendus | this is dungeon overlord |
| 21:48.41 | Xaragoth | just sayin', same idea? |
| 21:49.48 | Bibendus | its slow as all flash games |
| 21:50.04 | Bibendus | try it :D |
| 21:50.05 | Bibendus | http://apps.facebook.com/dungeonoverlord/?ref=bookmarks&count=0 |
| 21:50.09 | Xaragoth | oh god |
| 21:50.11 | Xaragoth | facebook |
| 21:50.12 | Xaragoth | die in a fire |
| 21:50.23 | Bibendus | lol |
| 21:50.32 | Bibendus | btw a question |
| 21:50.43 | Bibendus | do u know if it is possible to increase channeling cast speed of abilities? |
| 21:51.54 | Xaragoth | reduce the time? Ôo |
| 21:52.06 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 21:52.09 | Bibendus | increase cast speed |
| 21:52.18 | Bibendus | that must be a percentage buff |
| 21:52.33 | Xaragoth | I wonder if we think the same when you say "cast speed" |
| 21:52.34 | Bibendus | because you can't assign real values to behaviors times :| |
| 21:52.40 | Bibendus | an exampole |
| 21:52.50 | Bibendus | the phoenix ability |
| 21:52.53 | Bibendus | is a channeling spell |
| 21:52.53 | Xaragoth | like haste in wow? same damage, shorter time? |
| 21:52.57 | Bibendus | that freezes a unit for.. 10 sec |
| 21:52.59 | Bibendus | yep |
| 21:53.02 | Bibendus | like haste |
| 21:53.04 | Xaragoth | hrm |
| 21:53.07 | Bibendus | i want it to become 5 sec |
| 21:53.22 | Xaragoth | you'd have to increase the "ticks" of your damage |
| 21:53.32 | Xaragoth | when you add a certain buff, or whatever you do |
| 21:53.34 | Bibendus | actually i dont care of the effects |
| 21:53.36 | Bibendus | just the timer |
| 21:53.47 | Xaragoth | so not every 1s, but every 0.75 or something |
| 21:53.50 | Bibendus | if i give a buff like 50% speed to a unit |
| 21:54.12 | Bibendus | he should reduce his casting speed by 33% |
| 21:55.11 | Xaragoth | proziac would know *sigh* |
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| 21:55.41 | Slaydon | purl, what is fear of long words? |
| 21:55.41 | purl | methinks fear of long words is hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia |
| 21:55.48 | Bibendus | posting in the forum :P |
| 21:55.48 | Helral | hmmmm where does the game decide what the background image is for the commandcardbuttons? |
| 21:56.14 | Helral | is scared of purl. |
| 22:00.16 | Xaragoth | bored... |
| 22:00.23 | Xaragoth | purl, what should I do? |
| 22:00.25 | Xaragoth | ~~ |
| 22:00.30 | Xaragoth | lazy bot |
| 22:01.26 | Bibendus | lol |
| 22:01.40 | Bibendus | btw http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/map-development/17573-increase-spell-channeling-speed-using-behavior/ |
| 22:01.51 | Helral | Xaragoth: figure out which image is used for the default commandcard button background (when it's not used for an ability button) |
| 22:02.04 | Xaragoth | I didn't even ask |
| 22:02.06 | Xaragoth | nor did I care |
| 22:02.10 | Xaragoth | but have a fish |
| 22:02.13 | Xaragoth | slaps Helral around a bit with a large trout |
| 22:02.32 | Bibendus | dont slap cats with trouts |
| 22:02.42 | Xaragoth | it works all the time |
| 22:02.46 | Xaragoth | all the other cats will love it |
| 22:02.47 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 22:02.54 | Bibendus | yes but you are not punishing him in that way |
| 22:02.55 | Bibendus | :D |
| 22:03.06 | Xaragoth | who said I would? |
| 22:03.14 | Xaragoth | you don't punish cats |
| 22:03.19 | Xaragoth | you skin them. |
| 22:03.25 | Bibendus | oh k |
| 22:03.46 | Helral | ate the Trout |
| 22:03.51 | Xaragoth | but, still bored |
| 22:03.52 | Bibendus | seen? |
| 22:03.54 | Xaragoth | why is malu not done yet |
| 22:03.57 | Xaragoth | want to shoot zombies |
| 22:03.57 | Bibendus | it didn't work |
| 22:03.58 | Xaragoth | ~~ |
| 22:04.14 | Xaragoth | he told me "wait, i'll be back in a few hours with new stuff" |
| 22:04.21 | Xaragoth | I said "kay" |
| 22:04.25 | Xaragoth | now it's a few hours later |
| 22:04.29 | Xaragoth | WHERE IS MA NEW STUFF |
| 22:04.52 | Xaragoth | and just when you scream loud enough, he has new stuff. great. gotta note that down. |
| 22:05.07 | Helral | thinks he might have fallen asleep ;p |
| 22:05.25 | Helral | I'd actually laugh if he'd say that. |
| 22:10.33 | Cheekything | anyone know of a good fire effect |
| 22:10.51 | Cheekything | a spherical one would be prefferd |
| 22:14.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster Lilianna (~Lilianna@adsl-75-15-112-188.dsl.snlo01.sbcglobal.net) |
| 22:18.20 | Bibendus | mm |
| 22:18.25 | Bibendus | sentry defense shield |
| 22:18.27 | Bibendus | colored? |
| 22:18.29 | Bibendus | by red |
| 22:18.35 | Bibendus | use the birth animation |
| 22:18.47 | Bibendus | and death after |
| 22:18.51 | Bibendus | so it could seem an explosion |
| 22:19.52 | Cheekything | I was more thinking immolation style |
| 22:20.22 | Bibendus | mm |
| 22:20.32 | Bibendus | ok |
| 22:20.40 | Bibendus | i think you should use one of these shield effects |
| 22:20.46 | Bibendus | red colored |
| 22:20.46 | Bibendus | AND |
| 22:20.53 | Bibendus | the burning fire animation |
| 22:21.04 | Cheekything | ok |
| 22:21.04 | Bibendus | like the one u see on terran damaged buildings |
| 22:21.11 | Cheekything | yup |
| 22:21.13 | Bibendus | both of them should look cool |
| 22:21.57 | *** join/#sc2mapster onetwo (ae070b69@gateway/web/freenode/ip.174.7.11.105) |
| 22:21.57 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+v onetwo] by ChanServ |
| 22:22.02 | onetwo | hey Helral are you there |
| 22:27.05 | Xaragoth | okkkkkkkkkay |
| 22:27.07 | Xaragoth | dear EU people |
| 22:27.11 | Xaragoth | who wants to play malus map with us? |
| 22:27.16 | Xaragoth | we need some fresh views on this |
| 22:27.25 | Cheekything | sure why not |
| 22:27.49 | Xaragoth | hrm... lets do this right |
| 22:28.01 | Xaragoth | Sorry at all that are not EU |
| 22:28.02 | Xaragoth | :P |
| 22:28.07 | onetwo | im US |
| 22:28.11 | pirate | LOL |
| 22:28.13 | onetwo | you son of a bitch |
| 22:28.14 | Xaragoth | sometimes, I have to do this, just to get a few people to wake up |
| 22:28.15 | onetwo | lol |
| 22:28.20 | doite | lol |
| 22:28.21 | Gnarfoz | Xaragoth: wtf |
| 22:28.25 | doite | hey onetwo |
| 22:28.26 | pirate | :( |
| 22:28.27 | FireryRage | gah |
| 22:28.28 | onetwo | hi |
| 22:28.30 | FireryRage | D: |
| 22:28.34 | Falsus_ | Why Xaragoth, is it out? |
| 22:28.34 | onetwo | man my 3rd person RPG tutorial is almost ready to be made |
| 22:28.36 | *** part/#sc2mapster Gnarfoz (smallbrain@WoWUIDev/WowAce/Gnarfoz) |
| 22:28.37 | Xaragoth | and the channel comes to life \o/ |
| 22:28.39 | Xaragoth | it's not our |
| 22:28.39 | onetwo | just need to solve this sc2layout problem |
| 22:28.42 | Xaragoth | we're testing right now |
| 22:28.43 | FireryRage | < Canada |
| 22:28.43 | Xaragoth | *out |
| 22:28.48 | doite | wow... how many parts onetwo? |
| 22:28.48 | Lilianna | lol |
| 22:28.51 | Falsus_ | I'm up for testing I guess |
| 22:28.53 | Xaragoth | and we need some fresh ideas |
| 22:28.59 | doite | has to be quite a few to cover both TPS and RPG |
| 22:29.00 | onetwo | 3 parts ,but because i can upload unlimited videos now |
| 22:29.00 | Adys | Xaragoth: It's not funny, it's lame, that's all it fucking is. i don't care if it makes the channel comes to life, it makes an asshole out of you |
| 22:29.06 | Adys | and i truly hope nicoli_s kickbans you |
| 22:29.08 | doite | Oh |
| 22:29.10 | Xaragoth | join the "ruins" channel on sc2 |
| 22:29.19 | harl | Xaragoth: you really should be sorry to everyone for that, not just the eu people(s). lol (kind of). |
| 22:29.22 | onetwo | its simpler than you think, but i cover some really good stuff |
| 22:29.28 | onetwo | like auto following/rotating camera |
| 22:29.33 | onetwo | moving skybox |
| 22:29.33 | Cheekything | join it yourself :P |
| 22:29.35 | onetwo | fog |
| 22:29.42 | onetwo | and completely overhaulling blizz UI |
| 22:29.44 | doite | Im the master of TPS! |
| 22:29.44 | onetwo | using sc2layout |
| 22:29.47 | Xaragoth | adys: nobody cares, who are you anyways? :D |
| 22:29.49 | onetwo | yeah its not TPS |
| 22:29.56 | onetwo | its still click based |
| 22:29.58 | onetwo | but its 3rd person |
| 22:29.58 | doite | oh.. |
| 22:30.03 | onetwo | like that RPG in War3 |
| 22:30.08 | doite | oh kk |
| 22:30.22 | onetwo | seeing as how i already did a WoW cam tutorial |
| 22:30.24 | Adys | Xaragoth: if you don't know who I am, why the fuck did you ping me? |
| 22:30.28 | onetwo | not really necessary for another one |
| 22:30.30 | doite | Thought u ment tps since that needs camera + movement + traceline for shooting |
| 22:30.35 | doite | which needs some explaining |
| 22:30.39 | onetwo | yeah no thanks |
| 22:30.40 | onetwo | maybe later |
| 22:30.41 | onetwo | lol |
| 22:30.50 | doite | And even if i know your good at explaining its still to much to cover |
| 22:30.55 | Xaragoth | doite, you're us? :o |
| 22:30.59 | doite | no |
| 22:31.03 | Xaragoth | eu? |
| 22:31.08 | doite | =) |
| 22:31.10 | doite | Yea |
| 22:31.12 | Xaragoth | come and test :D |
| 22:31.12 | doite | Not asia |
| 22:31.18 | doite | Test what? |
| 22:31.22 | Xaragoth | malu's ruins |
| 22:31.23 | Xaragoth | tps |
| 22:31.24 | Xaragoth | ;D |
| 22:31.30 | doite | hmm.. |
| 22:31.34 | doite | Im hunry |
| 22:31.39 | doite | hungry, but ok |
| 22:32.04 | Xaragoth | bibendus, you're eu too, right? :P |
| 22:32.15 | Bibendus | what? |
| 22:32.17 | Bibendus | yes |
| 22:32.20 | Xaragoth | come play! |
| 22:32.21 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 22:33.07 | Xaragoth | channel is ruins on eu |
| 22:33.11 | Xaragoth | just so we get everyone there |
| 22:33.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster soulcarver (6334b08c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.52.176.140) |
| 22:33.25 | Xaragoth | hrm ... two more |
| 22:33.36 | Xaragoth | hey soul, you like to bitch around a lot, are you eu? :D |
| 22:33.45 | soulcarver | ? |
| 22:33.54 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Sixen] by ChanServ |
| 22:33.59 | soulcarver | i like to bitch around alot? |
| 22:34.07 | soulcarver | im usa |
| 22:34.11 | Xaragoth | yes, that could be useful, we wanna test ruins |
| 22:34.13 | Xaragoth | ah, goddamnit |
| 22:34.24 | soulcarver | ruins? |
| 22:34.28 | Xaragoth | malu's map |
| 22:34.32 | Xaragoth | we need some fresh views |
| 22:34.32 | soulcarver | damn |
| 22:34.39 | soulcarver | im dissapointed I cant try it |
| 22:34.42 | Xaragoth | also, wb sixen, did ye sleep well? |
| 22:34.53 | Sixen | yar :P |
| 22:34.55 | soulcarver | let me go buy a plane ticket |
| 22:35.00 | Sixen | I passed out last night too, haha |
| 22:35.03 | Bibendus | busy |
| 22:35.13 | Sixen | Slept from like 7-10:30, woke up and went back to bed at 2:30 |
| 22:35.33 | soulcarver | hey bibendus... do you have any sample maps of how you do the project tile firing like in your ... orbital gunner game? |
| 22:35.45 | soulcarver | or is that not you? |
| 22:36.28 | doite | onetwo |
| 22:36.37 | doite | I would like to request a tutorial |
| 22:37.02 | deathnight114 | wat... |
| 22:37.05 | onetwo | ? |
| 22:37.10 | deathnight114 | oh... |
| 22:37.20 | deathnight114 | I just opened this to find that i had a ping in #sc2mapster lol |
| 22:37.23 | deathnight114 | I never get pinged here |
| 22:37.37 | deathnight114 | it was xaragoth |
| 22:38.00 | Bibendus | i dont have orbital gunner games :| |
| 22:38.47 | onetwo | does anyone here edit sc2layouts |
| 22:38.49 | onetwo | or has tried it yet |
| 22:38.59 | onetwo | and know what 'character sheet' is ? |
| 22:39.04 | doite | oh sorry |
| 22:39.09 | doite | i was honered by malu |
| 22:39.13 | doite | the famous tps map maker |
| 22:39.17 | doite | anyway.. he can wait |
| 22:39.20 | doite | onetwo |
| 22:39.37 | doite | Obviously you dont have to, but i think a good coverage of spell making, upgrades... data editor overall |
| 22:39.52 | doite | I suck at it, and i dont think really theres a good tutorial out there |
| 22:40.10 | onetwo | yeah theres a lot i dont know too which is why i cherry pick random spells |
| 22:40.12 | onetwo | that i can do lol |
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| 22:43.09 | Sehkmet | !work |
| 22:43.39 | Hati | someone highlighted me? |
| 22:43.48 | Sehkmet | mm not me |
| 22:44.13 | Hati | Xaragoth: |
| 22:44.27 | Sehkmet | oh my little xara |
| 22:44.35 | Sehkmet | my little pinky yummy little pinky xara |
| 22:44.52 | Sehkmet | isnt cute? |
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| 22:51.20 | doite | WOW... |
| 22:51.24 | doite | That was awesome... |
| 22:51.24 | Skittles | ? |
| 22:51.32 | doite | I played Malu's map |
| 22:51.39 | Skittles | vector |
| 22:51.39 | doite | Hes fuckin insane at making TPS maps |
| 22:51.42 | Skittles | gratz |
| 22:51.45 | doite | By FAR the best |
| 22:52.06 | Xaragoth | nope, not vector |
| 22:52.07 | Xaragoth | ruins |
| 22:52.10 | Xaragoth | the multiplayer thingy |
| 22:52.13 | Skittles | oh |
| 22:52.15 | Xaragoth | we had to stress-test a bit |
| 22:52.16 | Skittles | yeah |
| 22:52.20 | Xaragoth | controls work mostly fine |
| 22:52.20 | Tordy | so anyone else experiencing the failed bank validation? |
| 22:52.23 | Xaragoth | zombies? not so much |
| 22:52.23 | Xaragoth | xd |
| 22:52.37 | Cheekything | zombie lag :P |
| 22:52.47 | doite | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqiulSLFncc |
| 22:52.51 | doite | This is the one we played |
| 22:53.10 | doite | Insane.. i never thought i would be able to play one of his maps |
| 22:53.11 | Skittles | yeah i know what ruins is |
| 22:54.02 | doite | I though hope he fixes camera alittle |
| 22:54.06 | doite | else flawless map |
| 22:54.14 | doite | + disables zoom level |
| 22:54.29 | Xaragoth | we're gathering problems, bugs, etc right now |
| 22:54.42 | Skittles | y? |
| 22:54.53 | Skittles | Didn't he abandon/finish ruins? |
| 22:55.07 | Xaragoth | was on ice |
| 22:55.14 | Xaragoth | until I dragged him to play it with me again |
| 22:55.18 | Xaragoth | and we noticed it runs smooth |
| 22:55.19 | Skittles | lol |
| 22:55.20 | Xaragoth | besides a few things |
| 22:55.23 | Skittles | hmm/ |
| 22:55.28 | Skittles | Wasd still sucks right? |
| 22:55.36 | Xaragoth | just 0.25 delay |
| 22:55.40 | Xaragoth | at least for his stuff |
| 22:55.46 | Skittles | Were u host? |
| 22:55.47 | Xaragoth | gotta try TSOF controls later, when tomura is back |
| 22:55.54 | Xaragoth | ye, but I had games where I wasn't |
| 22:55.58 | Xaragoth | as host, it was more responsive |
| 22:56.03 | Skittles | yeah |
| 22:56.17 | Skittles | tsof? |
| 22:56.21 | Xaragoth | played it a lot the last few days, it's no call of duty, but it's good |
| 22:56.28 | Xaragoth | the old ravens project we scrapped recently |
| 22:56.34 | Skittles | nvr heard of it |
| 22:56.36 | Xaragoth | we're going to use parts of the vector and tsof engine though |
| 22:56.39 | Xaragoth | wasn't very public |
| 22:56.42 | doite | i thought he was american? |
| 22:56.52 | Xaragoth | it's from waaaaaaaaay back in wc3, moved over to sc2 |
| 22:56.55 | Skittles | I've got a lot of work ahead of me for my map too. |
| 22:57.06 | Xaragoth | no, he's from denmark |
| 22:57.09 | Skittles | and to think I was almost done lol |
| 22:57.16 | Skittles | then took a month off |
| 22:57.21 | Skittles | and now I've got a ton to do. |
| 22:57.22 | Skittles | Xd |
| 22:57.29 | doite | Hurray! Scandinavia shows its remarkable talents once again! |
| 22:57.51 | Skittles | Humans = Humans? |
| 22:57.53 | Skittles | :p |
| 22:58.00 | doite | Well for malu im up for any testing at any time! |
| 22:58.42 | doite | Actually its proven that scandianavians, not in regards for this map..., but has extremly high inovational skills |
| 22:58.46 | Skittles | I hope the next patch contains terrain via triggers, terrain straight lines via shift (like photoshop), and input lag reducer |
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| 22:59.51 | Skittles | so they.. come up with a lot of good ideas? |
| 23:00.14 | doite | -> Ex. Sweden is the country with highest rate of famous artist / capita, invention / capita + has an average iq of 103 |
| 23:00.31 | doite | Denmark.. i dont know, but the average iq would be guessed to be about the same |
| 23:00.40 | Xaragoth | I notice, he doesn't know malu like I do *lol* |
| 23:00.47 | Skittles | meh iq tests are bs so I'ma going to disregard that part. |
| 23:01.24 | doite | IQ tests is not bullshit |
| 23:01.29 | doite | You mean the outcome? |
| 23:01.34 | Skittles | Yeah.. they kinda are.. |
| 23:01.50 | Skittles | They aren't about what you can do, but how much you know. |
| 23:02.02 | doite | Well you can twink the outcome of a iq test EXTREMLY little |
| 23:02.32 | Xaragoth | some people are just lazy |
| 23:02.33 | doite | Say first time you get 100, you do it 100 more times and its said that you may get a + - 1 the last time |
| 23:02.35 | Xaragoth | like me |
| 23:02.35 | Xaragoth | :p |
| 23:02.46 | Xaragoth | I would sit there |
| 23:02.47 | Skittles | SAT is an iq test, is it not? |
| 23:02.48 | Xaragoth | look at it |
| 23:02.53 | doite | Oh... You mean the IQ for itself |
| 23:02.55 | Xaragoth | and say: SCREW IT and just go random |
| 23:02.55 | Xaragoth | :D |
| 23:03.02 | doite | SAT is not a IQ test |
| 23:03.09 | Skittles | Pretty sure it is. |
| 23:03.15 | doite | But it contains parts of it |
| 23:03.26 | doite | SAT is a knowledge test |
| 23:03.31 | doite | IQ is a logic test |
| 23:03.58 | doite | But very correctly, SAT contains some parts of a IQ test |
| 23:04.02 | doite | Almost all tests do |
| 23:04.17 | Skittles | Google has proven me wrong. |
| 23:04.41 | doite | As i explained, SAT is not a IQ test. They test different things |
| 23:04.50 | Skittles | Neat |
| 23:05.27 | Skittles | Doesn't really matter either way tbh tho. |
| 23:06.04 | doite | A person with high IQ: Logic thinking, could be considered as "smart". High score on a SAT: Studies alot |
| 23:06.13 | Skittles | As I said, humans = humans. What we do depends on the situation around us. |
| 23:06.26 | Skittles | oh wells |
| 23:06.28 | Skittles | anyway |
| 23:06.39 | Skittles | zombie ideas anybody? |
| 23:06.58 | doite | Mm, but a person with high or low iq would probably act differantly in the same situation... ofc depending on the situation |
| 23:07.01 | doite | But anyway |
| 23:07.09 | doite | Yea People will allwas be people |
| 23:07.29 | Skittles | mhm |
| 23:07.45 | Skittles | I bet you have a zombie idea you've been wanting to spill! spill! |
| 23:08.00 | Bibendus | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 23:08.20 | doite | What do you mean with zombie ideas? |
| 23:08.35 | doite | Maps containing zombies, or zombie units? |
| 23:08.45 | Skittles | Zombie units ofc |
| 23:09.05 | doite | Dogs, birds, humans are the most common ofc |
| 23:09.13 | doite | Would be cool with a vehicle zombie |
| 23:09.17 | doite | Infested AI |
| 23:09.19 | doite | =) |
| 23:09.29 | Skittles | That's my main problem |
| 23:09.38 | Skittles | I wana stay away from the infested theme |
| 23:09.50 | doite | Well then the unit has to be bio |
| 23:09.54 | doite | hmm |
| 23:10.06 | Skittles | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/16007-corpse-master-changed-from-the-departed/#comments |
| 23:10.07 | Sehkmet | bu t.. zombie doesnt means infected? |
| 23:10.09 | Skittles | That's my map |
| 23:10.13 | Sehkmet | how can you stay away from that theme |
| 23:10.14 | doite | Animals, humans |
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| 23:10.33 | doite | Actually all races |
| 23:10.45 | doite | Zerg, protoss, .. alien types |
| 23:10.47 | Skittles | uh >.> |
| 23:10.57 | doite | As long as a virus can spread |
| 23:10.59 | Skittles | I was more or less refering to abilities that they can do. |
| 23:11.03 | doite | Meaning all biological units |
| 23:11.11 | doite | -> Everything not a vehicle |
| 23:11.30 | doite | Oh |
| 23:11.31 | doite | =) |
| 23:11.40 | Sehkmet | i would tell you if im werent doing a map about an alien |
| 23:11.52 | Sehkmet | if i * |
| 23:11.53 | doite | Spit, bite, claw, throw (body parts) |
| 23:12.04 | doite | Vomit |
| 23:12.10 | Skittles | I actually did want a body part guy |
| 23:12.15 | Sehkmet | mm.. spit, bite, claw throw and vomite.. sounds a drunk girl |
| 23:12.21 | Skittles | but sadly, I would need to import it >.> |
| 23:12.21 | doite | =) |
| 23:12.43 | Sehkmet | hey btw, |
| 23:12.45 | doite | Well it doesnt have to be so graphic, does it? |
| 23:12.47 | Skittles | I've gotten most of those |
| 23:13.04 | Sehkmet | do you know how to remove "set tint" using triggers? |
| 23:13.04 | doite | Maybe he can just reach for something and throw away "a part" |
| 23:13.08 | doite | Doesnt mean he has to loose it |
| 23:13.22 | doite | - hp |
| 23:13.29 | soulcarver | i have done a little |
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| 23:13.40 | doite | God i really have to eat now |
| 23:13.40 | Shawn|Rawr | Sehkmet, Send Actor Message in triggers |
| 23:13.45 | Shawn|Rawr | Clear Tin I think |
| 23:13.49 | Shawn|Rawr | Tint* |
| 23:14.01 | Sehkmet | mm |
| 23:14.20 | Sehkmet | send actor message using the word "clear" = Anim Clear, AnimClear All But Ref Clear |
| 23:14.54 | Sehkmet | nothing about clear tint |
| 23:15.14 | JManV | set the tint to white? |
| 23:15.57 | Sehkmet | that doesnt make the unit to look white? |
| 23:16.07 | JManV | it shouldn't |
| 23:16.18 | JManV | worth trying |
| 23:16.23 | Shawn|Rawr | one sec |
| 23:16.46 | Shawn|Rawr | im watching a baby simultaneously lol |
| 23:17.27 | Skittles | mm |
| 23:18.06 | Sehkmet | ok |
| 23:18.14 | JManV | that work? |
| 23:18.52 | Shawn|Rawr | No there is an actor message Clear Tint Color |
| 23:19.00 | Shawn|Rawr | You're just weird |
| 23:19.35 | Shawn|Rawr | Look in the Value list |
| 23:19.39 | Shawn|Rawr | Not in function |
| 23:19.52 | JManV | i think a white tint is no tint |
| 23:20.02 | JManV | like with the icons |
| 23:20.24 | Shawn|Rawr | I think it is too, but clear tint color is a sure thing |
| 23:20.41 | Sehkmet | nice |
| 23:20.42 | Sehkmet | it workd |
| 23:20.54 | Sehkmet | clear tint color doesnt exists |
| 23:21.00 | Shawn|Rawr | It exists in the Value list |
| 23:21.03 | Sehkmet | ah |
| 23:21.10 | Sehkmet | but i want to change it using triggers |
| 23:21.13 | Sehkmet | mm |
| 23:21.19 | Sehkmet | maybe duplicating the actor.. |
| 23:21.21 | Shawn|Rawr | That is in a trigger lol |
| 23:21.26 | JManV | apply a behavior or something |
| 23:21.34 | Sehkmet | and.. |
| 23:21.39 | Sehkmet | what about if i want a white unit? |
| 23:21.45 | Sehkmet | i have to use a grey - almost white - unit ? |
| 23:21.49 | Sehkmet | colour* |
| 23:21.50 | JManV | then have an actor even trigger on the behavior |
| 23:22.00 | JManV | you can't really add light when tinting |
| 23:22.04 | JManV | you can only remove it |
| 23:22.26 | Sehkmet | damn |
| 23:22.38 | Sehkmet | cuz i have an idea for other map, and i want to create a rat |
| 23:22.40 | JManV | like if you tint it red, it's going to remove the blue and green elements |
| 23:22.41 | Sehkmet | a laboratory rat |
| 23:22.50 | JManV | instead of adding red |
| 23:22.58 | Sehkmet | yep i understood, it sucks :( |
| 23:23.03 | Sehkmet | i cant make my white rat |
| 23:23.06 | JManV | ah |
| 23:23.19 | JManV | best to start with a white rat |
| 23:23.24 | JManV | and tint it |
| 23:23.36 | Sehkmet | white rat? importing it'? |
| 23:23.42 | JManV | something like that |
| 23:23.45 | JManV | or changing the texture |
| 23:23.48 | Sehkmet | i wanna use a Feederling |
| 23:23.59 | Sehkmet | and change the tint to white |
| 23:24.04 | JManV | i see |
| 23:24.22 | Sehkmet | or a very small female karak |
| 23:24.26 | Sehkmet | seems a good rat too |
| 23:24.43 | Sehkmet | female karak are grays already so it may be easy, maybe im going that way |
| 23:24.50 | JManV | someone might be able to modify the models for you |
| 23:25.02 | Sehkmet | its hard? |
| 23:25.15 | Sehkmet | i have to edit em using photoshop, etc ? |
| 23:25.19 | JManV | i dunno, not really my thing |
| 23:25.28 | JManV | 3d studio or something |
| 23:25.46 | Sehkmet | and if i paint em white using photoshop/3d studio, and then i import em.. they 'r going to be white? |
| 23:25.51 | JManV | skizot does a lot of stuff like that, and usually enjoys doing it |
| 23:26.00 | Sehkmet | lol good to know |
| 23:26.01 | JManV | yeah, they'd be white |
| 23:26.05 | Sehkmet | nice |
| 23:26.13 | JManV | and then you could tint it to make it another color |
| 23:26.17 | JManV | like grey or black |
| 23:26.25 | JManV | brown, etc |
| 23:26.30 | Sehkmet | when i continue mapping my other map, and if i get a rat model , i'll give it to you :P |
| 23:26.34 | Sehkmet | for Ratata model |
| 23:26.41 | JManV | heh |
| 23:26.48 | Sehkmet | ratata is a.. |
| 23:26.51 | JManV | i'll prolly use the karak as is |
| 23:26.55 | Sehkmet | grey or maroon rat, isnt it? |
| 23:26.58 | Sehkmet | ah |
| 23:27.34 | JManV | cuz i'm not going to use real pokemon |
| 23:27.48 | JManV | i want to avoid all that snafu creation is going through... |
| 23:27.49 | Sehkmet | oh i didnt knew that |
| 23:27.52 | JManV | you know, cuz i don't want a job |
| 23:28.04 | Shawn|Rawr | hbbvnn+++++++++++++++++++++++ |
| 23:28.06 | Shawn|Rawr | + |
| 23:28.37 | Sehkmet | what does "snafu" means? |
| 23:28.59 | JManV | it basically means a fucked up situation |
| 23:29.02 | Sehkmet | ahh |
| 23:29.08 | Sehkmet | about "world of starcraft"? |
| 23:29.12 | JManV | it's an ackronym for "situation normal, all fucked up" |
| 23:29.21 | JManV | yeah |
| 23:29.28 | onetwo | anyone here know how to use sc2layouts |
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| 23:29.49 | Sehkmet | i really dont think that using pokemon ideas matter to blizzard |
| 23:29.50 | JManV | i just find it ironic that plenty of people have great, completed mods that don't violate copyrights... and he gets all the attention |
| 23:30.16 | Sehkmet | lol yes.. |
| 23:30.28 | JManV | it's like he's being rewarded for doing all the wrong things |
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| 23:30.52 | Sehkmet | i saw a picture of the interface.. and every1 cheers at him like he was a pro mapper |
| 23:30.57 | Hati | <3 finally spdif is working :D |
| 23:31.02 | JManV | blizzard will care if game craze cares |
| 23:31.09 | Sehkmet | maybe he just made some nice dialogs and he didnt make any trigger/data stuff yet |
| 23:31.16 | JManV | and if my mod gets enough attention, they would care |
| 23:31.29 | JManV | i've seen how far he is |
| 23:31.32 | JManV | it is impressive |
| 23:31.39 | JManV | but its not done |
| 23:31.50 | JManV | and he should have known he couldn't name it world of starcraft |
| 23:31.58 | JManV | big "er... derp" moment there |
| 23:32.05 | onetwo | sc2layouts |
| 23:32.06 | onetwo | eh eh |
| 23:32.07 | Sehkmet | so.. maybe he deserve the attention |
| 23:32.19 | Sehkmet | if its really impressive |
| 23:32.24 | Skittles | I didn't think it looked that good tbh. >.> Then again, it's probably cause I hate wow and he's making wos. lol. |
| 23:32.24 | Sehkmet | i dont know him or his map |
| 23:32.37 | JManV | it's no more impressive than the tons of other uncompleted mods i've seen |
| 23:32.43 | Sehkmet | ah |
| 23:32.53 | Sehkmet | tetris and pacman would violate copyrights? |
| 23:32.57 | JManV | it's ambitious |
| 23:33.02 | JManV | that's its greatest merit |
| 23:33.03 | Skittles | they may |
| 23:33.17 | Skittles | u would need to see if the copy righting has gone up yet on them |
| 23:33.22 | Skittles | but it probably hasn't. |
| 23:33.23 | JManV | it depends on what blizzard wants to do, and if the copyright owners act |
| 23:33.36 | JManV | but i beleive we agree not to publish copyright material |
| 23:33.39 | Skittles | Well copyrights have a time limit |
| 23:33.41 | JManV | in our license argreement |
| 23:33.52 | JManV | which is why i'm just going to avoid it |
| 23:33.57 | Sehkmet | oh |
| 23:33.58 | Sehkmet | i see |
| 23:34.00 | Sehkmet | but.. |
| 23:34.01 | Skittles | u quitting or? |
| 23:34.08 | JManV | i don't want my map pulled |
| 23:34.08 | JManV | no |
| 23:34.13 | Skittles | k |
| 23:34.14 | Sehkmet | copyright isnt about if u want to make $$$$ with their ideas? |
| 23:34.18 | Sehkmet | you'r just making a map for fun |
| 23:34.21 | JManV | i never had any intention of including copyright material in my game |
| 23:34.33 | JManV | i stole the premise and that's it |
| 23:34.38 | Skittles | ur fun may be pulling business away from them tho |
| 23:34.42 | JManV | i'm using original music, sc2 units |
| 23:34.51 | JManV | and no reference of anything "poke" |
| 23:34.56 | Skittles | pocket |
| 23:34.57 | Skittles | lol |
| 23:35.07 | JManV | pocket isn't a copyright word |
| 23:35.12 | Skittles | :p |
| 23:35.16 | Skittles | give me a sec |
| 23:35.20 | Skittles | ill make it one |
| 23:35.21 | Sehkmet | its now ? |
| 23:35.21 | Skittles | :p |
| 23:35.23 | Sehkmet | jaja |
| 23:35.23 | Skittles | ;p |
| 23:35.31 | Sehkmet | damn, this makes me thing |
| 23:35.41 | Sehkmet | maybe im violating some copyright laws.. |
| 23:35.52 | Sehkmet | after finishing the map , before publishing it, i'll check that |
| 23:35.56 | Sehkmet | i really dont care right now |
| 23:35.57 | JManV | nothing may ever come iof it |
| 23:36.01 | JManV | but i'd be careful anyways |
| 23:36.22 | JManV | i don't mean to get on my high horse |
| 23:36.39 | JManV | i definitely don't think i deserve that attention, my mod is no more finished than his |
| 23:36.44 | JManV | but there are plenty of others |
| 23:36.49 | JManV | with great maps |
| 23:37.05 | JManV | although, a lot of the best maps are unfinished right now |
| 23:37.57 | JManV | personally tho, if i were hiring a programmer, the will to see a project through to completion would be one of the first things i |
| 23:38.00 | JManV | d look for |
| 23:38.28 | JManV | if a programmer doesn't finish what he starts, very little else matters |
| 23:39.48 | Sehkmet | yeps |
| 23:39.49 | JManV | onetwo: i think you and helral are the only ones that have really used them much |
| 23:39.58 | JManV | that i know of |
| 23:40.09 | Sehkmet | well! brb, im going afk for 10 mins |
| 23:40.14 | Sehkmet | i have to |
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| 23:40.40 | Sehkmet | but.. jmanV, remember about the custom map system |
| 23:40.46 | Sehkmet | it may help to do this things |
| 23:40.55 | Sehkmet | cuz if he dont do this, nobody may see his map |
| 23:40.56 | Sehkmet | brb |
| 23:41.33 | JManV | i don't understand |
| 23:44.22 | Skittles | use what |
| 23:45.10 | Skittles | oh sc2layouts >.> |
| 23:45.16 | JManV | yeah |
| 23:45.22 | Skittles | idk what it is tbh lol |
| 23:45.23 | JManV | i know how to use sc2styles :P |
| 23:45.34 | JManV | but those are a lot easier |
| 23:46.00 | JManV | i haven't been brave enough to tackle the layouts yet... mostly because i don't have a need |
| 23:46.16 | avogatro | is there a howto? |
| 23:46.22 | avogatro | for sc2layouts? |
| 23:46.30 | JManV | there's a text-based on that helral made |
| 23:46.37 | JManV | i think onetwo is working on a video tut |
| 23:46.41 | avogatro | kk |
| 23:47.02 | avogatro | this trigger api is making me crazy now |
| 23:47.11 | JManV | its not so bad |
| 23:47.24 | avogatro | what is not so bad |
| 23:47.30 | JManV | the trigger api |
| 23:47.35 | JManV | what are you having trouble with? |
| 23:47.47 | Skittles | An umbrella may prove to be a wise investment â during mating season, Tahrs play tag with each other, with the female letting the male know she's in the mood for love by urinating on him. Hate to see how they show each other they're not interested! |
| 23:47.52 | Skittles | neat |
| 23:48.00 | Skittles | http://animal.discovery.com/tv/a-list/creature-countdowns/gross-outs/gross-outs-06.html |
| 23:48.26 | JManV | so you're saying i shouldn't do that to people? |
| 23:48.48 | avogatro | my trouble is internal 500 error |
| 23:48.59 | JManV | internal 500 error? |
| 23:49.02 | avogatro | break my ****ing program |
| 23:49.15 | JManV | thats a web error |
| 23:49.26 | avogatro | i want to reparse all the trigger functions |
| 23:49.45 | avogatro | but it break after 200 functions |
| 23:50.10 | avogatro | i am working on the exceptions for 2 hours |
| 23:50.53 | Skittles | Not unless you're ready to mate jamnv |
| 23:51.12 | JManV | they don't mate with me after i pee on them |
| 23:51.15 | JManV | i don't know why.... |
| 23:51.18 | Skittles | you know there's 9 billion cows on earth? @.@ |
| 23:51.34 | Skittles | I think the females are suppose to do the peeing @.@ |
| 23:51.46 | JManV | is that what i'm doing wrong? |
| 23:51.47 | Skittles | yep females |
| 23:51.52 | Skittles | Suppose so. |
| 23:51.59 | JManV | alright, i'll try that then |
| 23:52.10 | JManV | somehow, i think they might not respect me afterwards tho... |
| 23:53.14 | avogatro | example |
| 23:53.15 | avogatro | http://wiki.sc2mapster.com/galaxy/triggers/train/ |
| 23:53.34 | JManV | what about it? |
| 23:53.41 | avogatro | there are 2000 function i cant break after 200 |
| 23:54.01 | onetwo | yeah ill have a video tut for sc2layouts soon, cause helrals doesnt really get you started easily |
| 23:54.05 | onetwo | if youre a noobie |
| 23:54.17 | onetwo | but the problem is i moved the weapon/armor icons for selecting a unit |
| 23:54.25 | onetwo | and now you cant mouse over to see movement speed or damage |
| 23:54.28 | onetwo | just doesnt show up |
| 23:54.32 | onetwo | and i dont know how or why |
| 23:54.32 | JManV | hmmm |
| 23:54.36 | Sehkmet | ok im back |
| 23:54.42 | JManV | they might not have done it right |
| 23:54.48 | onetwo | :/ |
| 23:54.48 | JManV | or there might be another element you have to move |
| 23:54.53 | onetwo | i tried to find one |
| 23:54.54 | onetwo | couldnt |
| 23:54.57 | Skittles | did sc2 ever say they plan on making cliffs being made via triggers? |
| 23:55.00 | JManV | what happens if you mouse over where it was? |
| 23:55.05 | onetwo | nothing either |
| 23:55.10 | JManV | weird |
| 23:55.12 | Skittles | What ever happened to the blue posts any way @.@ |
| 23:55.15 | Sehkmet | where did you move those icons? |
| 23:55.44 | onetwo | http://static.sc2mapster.com/content/attachments/12/239/brokentooltip.jpg |
| 23:55.46 | onetwo | thats how it looks now |
| 23:55.47 | avogatro | i saw a video about a nuke which can make deep hole on terrain |
| 23:55.57 | onetwo | so instead of being at bottom middle, i put wireframe in top left and weapon stuff in bottom left |
| 23:56.11 | avogatro | i think that was from trigger but i dont know how |
| 23:56.26 | Sehkmet | maybe hide terrain trigger? |
| 23:56.32 | JManV | is there a container object? |
| 23:56.52 | JManV | like a window or panel |
| 23:57.03 | JManV | that contains those objects |
| 23:57.10 | onetwo | theres the InfoPane which is specified in GameUI, then infoPane has wireframe and shit, and also an infopaneunit, and infopaneunit has the icons and stuff |
| 23:57.28 | onetwo | all i did was make infopane be sized larger and on the left |
| 23:57.33 | onetwo | so i could spread the wireframe to the top |
| 23:57.40 | onetwo | and have unit weapons/armor on bottom left |
| 23:57.47 | onetwo | instead of all together in one small thing on middle of console |
| 23:57.49 | onetwo | as it usually is |
| 23:57.59 | avogatro | is it posible to make custom mouseover action?, for a custom UIitem |
| 23:58.03 | JManV | did you check the whole screen for the tooltips? |
| 23:58.12 | onetwo | pretty much |
| 23:58.12 | JManV | maybe they're next to the wireframe? |
| 23:58.25 | onetwo | weirdly enough, mousing over the wireframe gives me unit info asi t should |
| 23:58.25 | onetwo | it |
| 23:58.30 | onetwo | in a nice position too |
| 23:58.36 | onetwo | but i cant even find where that is specified either |
| 23:58.39 | onetwo | but luckily it works |
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| 23:59.16 | Helral | hey onetwo ;p |
| 23:59.24 | onetwo | YES |
| 23:59.25 | onetwo | youre here |
| 23:59.26 | onetwo | WOOO |
| 23:59.28 | Helral | yup |
| 23:59.31 | onetwo | i posted a response to you on your thread |
| 23:59.31 | Helral | saw your post. |
| 23:59.34 | onetwo | k |
| 23:59.34 | Helral | ah |
| 23:59.49 | onetwo | i attached the 3 layout files |
