| 00:00.03 | XenoX101 | the engine if you will |
| 00:00.04 | XenoX101 | but anyway |
| 00:00.05 | XenoX101 | bye |
| 00:00.14 | XenoX101 | and if you are, of course DE cant do that anyway |
| 00:01.28 | Deaod | Mittsies, the term im referring to is softcoding. |
| 00:01.42 | Deaod | rather than hardcoding. |
| 00:13.03 | Skizot | how do you set what attachment point a missle effect is played on? |
| 00:13.10 | Skizot | or a missle is launched from? |
| 00:14.28 | Lilianna | In the Attack Action |
| 00:14.34 | Lilianna | Launch Site Ops |
| 00:16.21 | Skizot | launch attachment query actually. |
| 00:17.49 | Skizot | could the tanks in ep 1 shoot air? |
| 00:24.58 | Lilianna | something like that |
| 00:25.04 | Lilianna | I cant pull everything off the top of my head |
| 00:25.05 | Lilianna | :x |
| 00:25.25 | Lilianna | Yes the Clone tanks can shoot into the air |
| 00:25.30 | Lilianna | or droid |
| 00:25.31 | Lilianna | whatever |
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| 00:28.55 | Skizot | main gun? |
| 00:29.09 | Skizot | or side guns only? |
| 00:29.43 | JManV | pretty sure no tank turret is going to be able to shoot at air units really |
| 00:30.02 | Skizot | okay so the main gun for ground, side guns for air. |
| 00:30.04 | Skizot | got it. |
| 00:30.11 | JManV | i can look tho |
| 00:30.39 | Skizot | no worries |
| 00:30.46 | Skizot | makes more sense that way |
| 00:31.04 | ThunderLord | How do you actually apply the custom frames to the game? |
| 00:31.13 | ThunderLord | after ive edited the text |
| 00:31.22 | ThunderLord | i import it |
| 00:31.23 | ThunderLord | 'then what |
| 00:31.52 | JManV | it doesn't look like it has much AA capabilities |
| 00:31.57 | JManV | small lasers on the sides perhaps |
| 00:32.36 | JManV | it isn't really addressed tho |
| 00:41.07 | Skizot | those are what i'm talking about though :P |
| 00:41.22 | JManV | as the side weapons? |
| 00:41.31 | JManV | yeah, they could prolly shoot air |
| 00:41.49 | JManV | with limited success |
| 00:42.42 | Skizot | yeah low damage but at least it's SOME damage. |
| 00:42.59 | JManV | but that main cannon can go up 45 degrees at best |
| 00:43.04 | JManV | indeed |
| 00:43.25 | JManV | it doesn't make sense really for something to have *no* AA capability |
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| 00:43.55 | Phaos | who is happy fun times with missiles ? |
| 00:44.31 | JManV | dammit why isn't this working? |
| 00:45.49 | Phaos | what is "this" |
| 00:45.55 | JManV | some dialogs |
| 00:46.06 | JManV | i create a few |
| 00:46.11 | Phaos | whats not working about it ? |
| 00:46.21 | JManV | then loop through the players involved and show the ones they need to see |
| 00:46.36 | JManV | and it's only showing one of them |
| 00:47.07 | JManV | when i create them, i added a show/wait/hide, and i can see each one |
| 00:47.23 | JManV | but when i go to show them, its just not showing the second one |
| 00:47.46 | JManV | i'm also printing out the indexes of the array that they'll be stored in, and those are right too |
| 00:47.53 | Phaos | O.o Im not following |
| 00:48.18 | JManV | there's two sides of combat |
| 00:48.18 | ThunderLord | How do you apply a custom UI Layout to a map once you have edited the layout file accordingly????? |
| 00:48.29 | JManV | and each side sees two dialogs |
| 00:48.35 | JManV | but they're different for each side |
| 00:48.59 | JManV | as in, they can see allied info |
| 00:49.06 | ThunderLord | are they true dialogs or leaderboards? |
| 00:49.07 | JManV | but vague info about enemy |
| 00:49.11 | JManV | true dialogs |
| 00:49.28 | JManV | so i create all 4 at once |
| 00:49.34 | JManV | and store them in an array |
| 00:49.44 | JManV | then loop through all the players, and show them the ones for them |
| 00:49.52 | JManV | that's the part that's not working |
| 00:49.59 | JManV | and i've been staring at it for way too long |
| 00:50.23 | Phaos | I would totally need to see it to know whats going on |
| 00:50.26 | JManV | just frustrated... kinda trying to talk through it to see if i missed anything |
| 00:50.28 | JManV | yeah |
| 00:51.02 | JManV | the frustrating part is i've spent an hour or so adding various debug messages and stuff |
| 00:51.12 | JManV | and according to the debugs, everything's perfect |
| 00:51.38 | JManV | so there's something i'm missing |
| 00:51.39 | JManV | obv |
| 00:53.05 | JManV | there's so many things involved |
| 00:55.00 | ThunderLord | wana paste the main triggers? |
| 00:55.05 | ThunderLord | pastebin |
| 00:55.15 | ThunderLord | i kida do ALOT of dialog stuf |
| 00:55.30 | JManV | i'm a big fan myself |
| 00:55.39 | JManV | maybe you'll see something i'm not seeing... |
| 00:55.39 | ThunderLord | DIALOG FTW! |
| 00:55.59 | JManV | http://pastebin.com/18AF6eGH |
| 00:56.07 | Phaos | on the other hand I'm trying to get a character to use a custom ability (through triggers). can't seem to see how it's done. |
| 00:58.04 | JManV | so i know line 36 runs |
| 00:58.09 | JManV | cuz i see that dialog |
| 00:58.21 | JManV | 39 doesn't show me a dialog tho |
| 00:58.41 | JManV | but it should show me what's stored in dialog[1][0] |
| 00:58.54 | JManV | which is set above |
| 00:58.58 | ThunderLord | at first glance |
| 00:59.10 | ThunderLord | is that a pick each interger inside of a pick each interger? |
| 00:59.22 | JManV | they are for eaches |
| 01:00.04 | JManV | any variable that starts with an "i" is used for a for each loop |
| 01:02.01 | JManV | i'm just not seeing it... |
| 01:03.47 | Skizot | shit |
| 01:03.55 | JManV | indeed |
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| 01:04.37 | Skizot | is there a weapon that fires from two different points back and forth? |
| 01:05.32 | JManV | colossus? |
| 01:05.40 | JManV | those points are really close together tho |
| 01:05.45 | JManV | might be considered the same point |
| 01:05.49 | JManV | mothership maybe? |
| 01:05.53 | XenoX101 | thor autocannons |
| 01:06.09 | XenoX101 | no missiles though |
| 01:06.22 | Skizot | fuck |
| 01:06.23 | JManV | the thor autocannons are his arms |
| 01:06.30 | Skizot | we can't make weapon sets though |
| 01:06.32 | XenoX101 | no the ability I mean |
| 01:07.18 | Skizot | yeah i know |
| 01:07.31 | Skizot | the problem is that i can't make weapon sets so that it will pick from them. |
| 01:07.31 | JManV | taco cannon? |
| 01:09.01 | Skizot | side guns on the aat tank. |
| 01:09.16 | JManV | mike the side guns turrets |
| 01:09.20 | JManV | and the main gun a weapon |
| 01:09.38 | JManV | the turrets will fire while moving, no? |
| 01:09.55 | Skizot | the main gun is a turret |
| 01:10.05 | Skizot | side guns are not. |
| 01:10.13 | JManV | in a real world sense, yes |
| 01:10.25 | JManV | but in the editor |
| 01:10.39 | Skizot | .... |
| 01:10.39 | JManV | you can use turrets for the side guns |
| 01:10.47 | JManV | it's a different kind of weapon |
| 01:11.15 | JManV | it can fire in any direction (that you allow it), and fire while moving |
| 01:11.17 | Skizot | my issue is getting it to fire from BOTH guns alternating. |
| 01:11.38 | JManV | while the main gun would fire forward and not while moving |
| 01:12.26 | JManV | alternating, huh? |
| 01:12.33 | Skizot | left gun, right gun |
| 01:12.37 | JManV | the thors arm guns alternate |
| 01:12.43 | JManV | don't they? |
| 01:12.49 | Skizot | yes, but we can't set weapon GROUPS. |
| 01:12.50 | JManV | or is that all animation? |
| 01:12.56 | Skizot | not with the current exporter |
| 01:13.00 | JManV | groups? |
| 01:13.20 | JManV | thor has two different weapons, and one of them has alternating fire |
| 01:13.34 | JManV | seems like what you need |
| 01:13.52 | Skizot | yes |
| 01:14.04 | Skizot | i can do that no problem. |
| 01:14.08 | Skizot | it's EXPORTING a new model that i can't make qweapon groups. |
| 01:14.20 | JManV | ah |
| 01:14.37 | JManV | can't really help ya there |
| 01:14.49 | XenoX101 | does anyone know how I can rotate a model in DE? |
| 01:19.05 | ThunderLord | How do you import a custom UI Layout to a map once you have edited the layout file????? |
| 01:20.32 | ThunderLord | it seems simple but i cant seem to get it right |
| 01:24.14 | Lilianna | Import it using the import manager to UI\Layout\UI |
| 01:25.29 | JManV | arrays are 0-based, right? |
| 01:25.41 | Lilianna | Im pretty sure they are both |
| 01:25.50 | Lilianna | there is a 0, but there is also a max length too |
| 01:26.19 | JManV | ok |
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| 01:34.47 | Phaos | ok. so I need to make an ability but my brain is dead because I am sick |
| 01:34.47 | Phaos | this ability needs to be a missile that shoots out from the caster point and does not have a target point |
| 01:34.52 | Phaos | whats my components |
| 01:35.13 | Phaos | ability effect - instant, effect missile - launch, unit - ammo |
| 01:35.45 | XenoX101 | how can I stop my buildings from preventing me selecting other units near unit |
| 01:35.48 | XenoX101 | near it* |
| 01:36.01 | XenoX101 | you know how when a building is near your units it forces you to select the building |
| 01:36.12 | Phaos | by making the selection scale smaller on the unit model |
| 01:36.26 | XenoX101 | the default is 1.0 |
| 01:36.30 | XenoX101 | thats what it is on |
| 01:36.33 | Phaos | yes |
| 01:36.39 | XenoX101 | oh wait |
| 01:36.40 | XenoX101 | its on 1 |
| 01:36.42 | Phaos | I didn't say make it 1.0 I said make it smaller |
| 01:36.44 | XenoX101 | its normally on 0.5 |
| 01:39.32 | XenoX101 | k that fixed it |
| 01:45.33 | Skizot | someone find me how to setup weapon sets |
| 01:45.42 | Skizot | it's apparently NOT done in the model. |
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| 01:46.52 | Shadowsong | Hello |
| 01:47.58 | Shadowsong | anyone know if its possible to create new command card buttons using layouts? |
| 01:48.36 | Skizot | no. |
| 01:48.38 | Skizot | 16 total. |
| 01:48.47 | Skizot | have to use dialog buttons for anything over that |
| 01:49.21 | XenoX101 | what do you mean 16 total |
| 01:49.32 | Skizot | a 4x4 command card = 16 buttons. |
| 01:49.56 | Shadowsong | can you have more than one command card page showing at one time using layout? |
| 01:50.08 | Skizot | THAT i do not know. |
| 01:50.08 | XenoX101 | command cards are 5x4 |
| 01:50.26 | XenoX101 | err |
| 01:50.26 | XenoX101 | 5x3 |
| 01:50.33 | Skizot | oh? |
| 01:50.36 | Skizot | so 15 then. |
| 01:50.37 | Skizot | XD |
| 01:50.45 | Skizot | i'm thinking warcraft3 i think. |
| 01:50.57 | Phaos | war 2 was 3x3 :D |
| 01:51.03 | XenoX101 | but you can have 4 command card submenus |
| 01:51.31 | XenoX101 | which makes 60 |
| 01:51.33 | XenoX101 | buttons |
| 01:51.40 | XenoX101 | and you can stack buttons |
| 01:51.51 | XenoX101 | and use requirements |
| 01:52.10 | Skizot | i think he's wanting multiple buttons on screen at once. |
| 01:52.29 | Phaos | you can have as many buttons stacked on the same slot as your heart desires (255) |
| 01:52.39 | Phaos | and use requirments to swap between them |
| 01:53.30 | Shadowsong | I want more than the default amount, without using dialogs(since dialogs can do aoe spells or target spells) |
| 01:53.41 | Shadowsong | can't*** |
| 01:54.26 | Phaos | well you can |
| 01:54.32 | Shadowsong | not really |
| 01:54.33 | Phaos | and examples of how are above |
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| 01:54.48 | Phaos | you can stack buttons, put buttons on different pages |
| 01:55.13 | Shadowsong | if you use dialogs with no command card, then aoe and target spells are impossible to do |
| 01:55.13 | Phaos | well you could stack buttons which lead to different pages :P |
| 01:56.09 | Phaos | so make stacks of buttons or put buttons of different card pages |
| 01:56.31 | Shadowsong | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:56.59 | Phaos | what? you want more "room" on the command card. thats how you do it |
| 01:57.23 | Shadowsong | I want a straight spell bar (like in rpgs) yet more that 15 buttons |
| 01:57.40 | Phaos | you want more than fifteen buttons in a straight line? |
| 01:57.50 | Phaos | last I checked my key board goes from 1-0 |
| 01:58.16 | Shadowsong | think how WoW has the default one then you can have 4 more spell bars |
| 01:58.27 | Shadowsong | - and = |
| 01:58.35 | Phaos | well thats still 12 |
| 01:58.38 | Skizot | doing aoes via dialog buttons are easy |
| 01:58.44 | Skizot | it's a simple trigger |
| 01:58.46 | Phaos | and the other bars use modifier keys |
| 01:59.32 | Shadowsong | but you get no aoe cursor to show the range of the aoe |
| 01:59.47 | Skizot | yeah you do |
| 02:00.55 | Shadowsong | no way to use triggers to tell it to cast an aoe or target spell but only to the part where the player selects the target |
| 02:01.09 | Skizot | ugh |
| 02:01.14 | Skizot | do you only control one unit? |
| 02:01.15 | Phaos | lol |
| 02:01.15 | Shadowsong | I've tried |
| 02:01.20 | Shadowsong | yea |
| 02:01.25 | Skizot | then it's STUPID simple. |
| 02:01.39 | Skizot | player clicks dialog button - AOE |
| 02:02.02 | Skizot | order unit to cast ability targetting a point (crazy AOE) |
| 02:02.04 | Skizot | tada |
| 02:02.05 | Shadowsong | you are only given the option to cast on point or target but you must define the location with no user input |
| 02:02.09 | Phaos | shadowsong just because you have looked and havn't found how doesn't mean it's not possible. :P |
| 02:02.24 | Skizot | there an example in my old mmo test map. |
| 02:02.41 | Skizot | it used a custom dialog for the skill buttons. |
| 02:03.03 | Skizot | WHERE THE HELL ARE WEAPON SETS DEFINED?!?!? |
| 02:03.05 | Lilianna | I believe he wants a dialogue to use an ability but not cast it |
| 02:03.11 | Skizot | yeah |
| 02:03.15 | Skizot | mine used to do that |
| 02:03.19 | Shadowsong | but the aoe and target spells don't give a cursor as it does in the standard UI |
| 02:03.23 | Skizot | you would cast psi storm |
| 02:03.35 | Skizot | as if you clicked it on the card |
| 02:03.42 | Skizot | mine did. |
| 02:03.47 | Lilianna | Skizot, your trying to have a dual firing weapon like the Marauder? |
| 02:04.08 | Skizot | sort of. |
| 02:04.15 | Skizot | i want it to alternate launch points. |
| 02:04.22 | Lilianna | thats what the Marauder does |
| 02:04.27 | Lilianna | left armt ehn right arm |
| 02:04.29 | Lilianna | alternating |
| 02:04.32 | Shadowsong | for example, in WoW when a player wants their mage to cast Blizzard the game gives them an AoE cursor and waits for the player to select the location |
| 02:04.35 | Skizot | but i can't find how to say "these refs are in set A 0" |
| 02:04.39 | Skizot | DUDE |
| 02:04.48 | Skizot | do i have to make you a freaking test map to prove it to you? |
| 02:04.51 | Lilianna | Im looking at it now |
| 02:05.04 | Skizot | i know EXACTLY what you want. |
| 02:05.09 | Skizot | and i made it before. |
| 02:06.26 | Shadowsong | but gives no AoE cursor |
| 02:09.19 | Skizot | YES IT DOES. |
| 02:09.29 | Skizot | i'm already making you a demo map. |
| 02:16.29 | CreationAKARyan | Shadowsong |
| 02:16.36 | CreationAKARyan | Im actually working on this problem right now |
| 02:16.37 | Shadowsong | ? |
| 02:16.42 | CreationAKARyan | for WoSC |
| 02:17.03 | CreationAKARyan | basically what you'll have to do is make a custom model to represent the spell radius |
| 02:17.09 | CreationAKARyan | which follows your cursor |
| 02:17.38 | CreationAKARyan | then create an invisible unit at point and cast the spell on that unit when left mouse button is clicked down |
| 02:18.06 | CreationAKARyan | its a pain in the ass |
| 02:18.45 | Phaos | naww you only need to keep a record of the current mouse coords |
| 02:18.56 | Phaos | ans do "order targeting point" |
| 02:19.10 | CreationAKARyan | but the youll still need the custom model |
| 02:19.16 | CreationAKARyan | to represent spell radius |
| 02:19.24 | Phaos | i dunno about that |
| 02:19.42 | CreationAKARyan | yeah its stupid you cant prep an AoE spell outside of the UI |
| 02:19.48 | Phaos | there must be some way to make the trigger editor "click" the ability and then the user takes it from there |
| 02:21.04 | Shadowsong | thats what I've been saying about dialog buttons for spells |
| 02:21.07 | Phaos | i'm still trying to figure out what the "unit order" case does |
| 02:22.49 | Phaos | anyone wouldn't happen to know why certain effect - target abilities are not showing up in the "order targeting point" list ? |
| 02:24.07 | Skizot | creation. |
| 02:24.17 | Skizot | i already did this though. |
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| 02:24.50 | Skizot | i even had mounts |
| 02:26.47 | pirate | roar |
| 02:30.19 | CreationAKARyan | Anyone know how to completely pause the animations of an actor? Anim Set pause actor message not working for me |
| 02:30.48 | Skizot | clear animations? |
| 02:31.07 | Phaos | the only way I have found Creation is by getting the actor to repeat that sycle of the animation 0.1 times a second |
| 02:31.33 | Phaos | cycle |
| 02:31.37 | CreationAKARyan | retarded |
| 02:31.42 | CreationAKARyan | thats what i figured |
| 02:32.08 | CreationAKARyan | I love how they have all these features in the editor that dont work |
| 02:32.21 | CreationAKARyan | why put them in? |
| 02:32.49 | Phaos | what happens is they implement it, test it, it works. then they move on |
| 02:33.04 | Phaos | but little do they remember. that something they change down the road breaks something else they did |
| 02:33.07 | Phaos | thats my theory |
| 02:33.13 | CreationAKARyan | maybe so |
| 02:36.32 | Skizot | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/simple-mmo-controls/files/5-version-4/ |
| 02:36.37 | Skizot | it's in that map./ |
| 02:36.41 | Skizot | but i can't download it :( |
| 02:37.04 | Skizot | my internet licks balls |
| 02:38.00 | Skizot | it has my dialog based aoe spells. |
| 02:39.03 | Hedus | FPS style as in... WITH UI? or without? |
| 02:39.12 | Skizot | ? |
| 02:39.28 | Hedus | the camera when in fps mode is horrible when you have UI shown.... |
| 02:39.32 | Hedus | and i havent found a way to fix it |
| 02:39.52 | Hedus | but im keeping an eye out if anyone else has found a way =P |
| 02:39.53 | XenoX101 | hey is there any way to define a rectangle region on an angle? |
| 02:39.53 | Skizot | i THINK mine has no ui. |
| 02:40.08 | Hedus | k |
| 02:40.17 | pirate | so hows this new popularity system work? |
| 02:40.31 | Phaos | better |
| 02:40.35 | Phaos | thats how |
| 02:40.41 | pirate | ive played 6x 15 minute rounds of my new map |
| 02:40.50 | pirate | and its nowhere to be found |
| 02:41.01 | Hedus | pirate: it takes a distance, takes some force, then throws in a cosine... and it works |
| 02:41.07 | Phaos | were they unique players ? |
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| 02:41.28 | pirate | like 8 different people |
| 02:41.35 | onetwo | man... finally getting better from 4 days of a crazy flu/cold hybrid |
| 02:41.37 | pirate | have each played a 15 minute round or two |
| 02:41.39 | Phaos | holy hell onetwo still exists |
| 02:41.53 | onetwo | hi |
| 02:42.00 | Phaos | heya :D |
| 02:42.09 | onetwo | it was so annoying cause my stomach just wasnt accepting food but my cold was demanding my body to eat for energy |
| 02:42.14 | onetwo | ultimate conundrum |
| 02:42.21 | Phaos | hehe |
| 02:42.22 | slightlyrandom | Booze |
| 02:42.29 | Phaos | eat a pizza *nods sagely* |
| 02:42.30 | slightlyrandom | liquid energy |
| 02:42.33 | Skizot | onetwo. |
| 02:42.33 | onetwo | and water made me sick |
| 02:42.35 | onetwo | i had to drink pop |
| 02:42.36 | onetwo | lol |
| 02:42.37 | Skizot | i love your td :) |
| 02:42.47 | onetwo | lol thanks, this seems random |
| 02:42.51 | onetwo | is my TD popular or something? |
| 02:42.57 | slightlyrandom | Give praise where praise is due |
| 02:42.59 | Skizot | i "liberated" a couple things for my hero d map. |
| 02:43.17 | Skizot | i just wish it didn't have to have 8 players :/ |
| 02:43.20 | onetwo | man i feel like making some more sc2 map cinematics |
| 02:43.27 | Phaos | if you mean teh attention you getting. arn't you used to it by now ? |
| 02:43.38 | onetwo | ah |
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| 02:43.58 | onetwo | hi allen |
| 02:44.08 | Phaos | onetwo hows the brain juice? I got a missile problem. and my own cold is making my hit brick walls |
| 02:44.16 | Shadowsong | Skizot, you aren't doing the aoe spell with a aoe cursor and waiting for the player to select a location to cast it |
| 02:44.17 | Phaos | me* |
| 02:45.54 | onetwo | my brain is slow today |
| 02:45.55 | onetwo | sorry |
| 02:45.55 | Phaos | how to make: a missile that travels on a linear path from the caster and will continue until it hits a cliff or expires ? |
| 02:46.05 | onetwo | lol i had to read my bnet post like 10 times |
| 02:46.06 | Phaos | ah drat |
| 02:46.12 | onetwo | cause i randomly had it completely wrong |
| 02:46.15 | Phaos | yeah see I got the same problem |
| 02:46.15 | onetwo | in some sentences |
| 02:46.18 | onetwo | llol |
| 02:46.31 | onetwo | but yeah Phaos i dont think thats as simple as you think |
| 02:46.34 | Phaos | even in my own triggers. I'v got the dumb. but really want to work |
| 02:46.35 | onetwo | its not like a diablo 2 thing |
| 02:46.38 | onetwo | just make a missile that flies |
| 02:46.43 | onetwo | unless it hits something |
| 02:46.49 | onetwo | sc2 isnt a collision based game |
| 02:46.51 | XenoX101 | use "Collide" flag Ground unused (Land 09) |
| 02:46.52 | onetwo | like halflife |
| 02:46.53 | onetwo | but |
| 02:47.02 | onetwo | you might be able to figure a way |
| 02:47.06 | XenoX101 | and make the mover "Throw" with "Arrival Type" "Never" |
| 02:47.06 | onetwo | yeah what xenox says |
| 02:47.18 | Phaos | yeh. it's not so much the collison problem as it is getting a missile to just fly on a direction |
| 02:47.22 | XenoX101 | err, mover "Driver Type" "Throw" |
| 02:47.23 | onetwo | yeah |
| 02:47.28 | Phaos | on XenoX101 thank you :D |
| 02:47.33 | XenoX101 | np |
| 02:47.34 | Skizot | if i could get it downloaded i KNOW it does it. |
| 02:48.07 | XenoX101 | so does anyone know if its possible to angle a rectangular region? |
| 02:48.15 | Shadowsong | Skizot, want me to get on my SC2 GE cam and show you? |
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| 02:48.16 | XenoX101 | or do I have to resort to mathematical ugliness? |
| 02:48.42 | Phaos | just trying to make a "bullet" attack system you see. once I have that part I will make the missiles carry a AOE behavior. so that it "impacts" with targets |
| 02:49.11 | Phaos | uh |
| 02:49.16 | Phaos | I think thats a setting |
| 02:49.26 | Phaos | I think there is a daimond shaped region... ? |
| 02:49.29 | Phaos | lemme look |
| 02:49.48 | onetwo | Xenox: mathematical ugliness |
| 02:50.00 | Phaos | actually yeah. mathematical ugliness |
| 02:50.02 | XenoX101 | damnit |
| 02:50.09 | Phaos | I'm apparently delusional too |
| 02:50.36 | Phaos | I'd say circle regions are your friend in this endevour |
| 02:51.15 | Phaos | you could. for example. makee a square region and use negative circles to shape it |
| 02:51.30 | onetwo | im more a positive circle guy |
| 02:51.41 | onetwo | :D |
| 02:51.42 | Phaos | bah dum th |
| 02:51.44 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 02:51.47 | Phaos | tsh even |
| 02:51.53 | XenoX101 | brb porridge |
| 02:52.04 | Phaos | he's eating brain food. get him! |
| 02:52.09 | XenoX101 | btw gents, if you want an awesome porridge, do as I do, cook the oats without anything first for about 5 minutes stirring frequently |
| 02:52.30 | Phaos | personally I cook it. leave it over night. and heat it in the morning |
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| 02:53.52 | Skizot | couple someone zip that map for me and uplaod it zomewhere? |
| 02:53.55 | Skizot | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/simple-mmo-controls/files/5-version-4/ |
| 02:56.58 | Shadowsong | ok skizot |
| 02:58.30 | Shadowsong | uploading atm |
| 03:00.11 | Shadowsong | http://www.mediafire.com/?1f0mcyvnateyysv |
| 03:04.32 | Phaos | XenoX101 are you sure I want the throw driver. it has a billion settings for parabolas and curves. but this is a straight vector I'm after |
| 03:07.48 | XenoX101 | all movers have that |
| 03:07.58 | XenoX101 | trust me I use the throw driver |
| 03:08.01 | Phaos | ah |
| 03:08.09 | XenoX101 | I have about 3 spells that work exactly the way you are intending |
| 03:08.10 | Phaos | alright :) |
| 03:08.16 | onetwo | man they musta hired like some physics expert at blizz |
| 03:08.22 | onetwo | lets you fine tune down to the wind |
| 03:08.23 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:08.33 | Phaos | it's pretty insane |
| 03:08.40 | onetwo | war3 was like an arrow goes up and then down |
| 03:08.41 | slightlyrandom | Can you make your missile be affected by wind ? |
| 03:08.46 | onetwo | sc2 is like acceleration crap etc |
| 03:08.52 | Phaos | I just hope default values on the things I don't eunderstand arn't going to mess it my mover |
| 03:08.52 | onetwo | torque |
| 03:08.53 | onetwo | lol |
| 03:08.56 | onetwo | yeah |
| 03:09.03 | slightlyrandom | Funky |
| 03:09.05 | onetwo | i dont know i was joking |
| 03:09.11 | slightlyrandom | :D |
| 03:09.20 | Phaos | but. probably. :P |
| 03:09.25 | slightlyrandom | Humor doesn't exist on the internet |
| 03:09.58 | XenoX101 | If you could input the wind as a variable, you could essential account for the Coriolis Effect with a sniper rifle |
| 03:10.10 | XenoX101 | probably* |
| 03:10.28 | XenoX101 | using an angled force like a wind |
| 03:10.40 | XenoX101 | only in this case gravity towards a central point |
| 03:10.59 | slightlyrandom | Ah yes, but it'd have to exist as a sort of drag coefficient to work dynamically |
| 03:11.12 | slightlyrandom | On the individual missiles |
| 03:11.15 | Phaos | O.O |
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| 03:11.29 | slightlyrandom | If you want wind that can change, and missiles that are affected based on, well, size and shape |
| 03:11.30 | Phaos | I r feel dum |
| 03:12.04 | slightlyrandom | Don't worry, I'm just using all the big words I know to sound samrt |
| 03:12.15 | XenoX101 | best way to confuse someone |
| 03:12.18 | slightlyrandom | (Intentional typo for emphasis) |
| 03:12.18 | XenoX101 | use the word "coefficient" |
| 03:12.40 | XenoX101 | coefficients are great because they aren't actually anything |
| 03:12.49 | slightlyrandom | Just a number, really |
| 03:12.51 | XenoX101 | they're placeholders for actual values |
| 03:13.13 | Phaos | oh good |
| 03:13.15 | slightlyrandom | a scalar value, often in the form of a vector |
| 03:14.07 | slightlyrandom | RIgth, that dealt with |
| 03:14.27 | XenoX101 | I'm going to use a horrid array of circle regions to make my angled rectangle shape |
| 03:14.39 | slightlyrandom | >_< |
| 03:14.42 | Phaos | Woot :D |
| 03:14.47 | slightlyrandom | Can't you just turn the camera a bit? :P |
| 03:14.51 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 03:15.04 | XenoX101 | not quite ;p |
| 03:15.13 | slightlyrandom | It'd be the proper thing to do |
| 03:15.40 | slightlyrandom | Why do you need a crooked rectangle ? |
| 03:16.11 | XenoX101 | my 'wind tunnel' spell |
| 03:16.31 | XenoX101 | makes a tunnel shape that units get sucked forward in |
| 03:16.43 | XenoX101 | and tunnels are naturally not circular |
| 03:16.53 | XenoX101 | and should be made in the direction of the spell being cast |
| 03:17.08 | XenoX101 | (as in they arent circular from the top down) |
| 03:17.10 | slightlyrandom | Whats wrong with a oblong ? |
| 03:17.18 | XenoX101 | oblong? |
| 03:17.22 | slightlyrandom | an, probably |
| 03:17.28 | slightlyrandom | hm, whats the english word |
| 03:17.48 | Phaos | rectangle |
| 03:17.50 | slightlyrandom | haha |
| 03:17.55 | Phaos | and you mean american word |
| 03:17.56 | slightlyrandom | Naw, a stretched circle :) |
| 03:17.58 | XenoX101 | yeah thats not really what I'm aiming for |
| 03:18.01 | Phaos | the english word is oblong |
| 03:18.21 | Phaos | oh streched circle = oval |
| 03:18.21 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, guess I got that word wrong |
| 03:18.30 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, thats the jimmie |
| 03:18.36 | slightlyrandom | Thanks |
| 03:18.41 | Phaos | :) |
| 03:19.14 | slightlyrandom | This is actually pretty damned awesome |
| 03:19.25 | XenoX101 | what is |
| 03:19.33 | slightlyrandom | Watching TLO's stream, mostly because it has some great music playing |
| 03:19.45 | slightlyrandom | and there's good SC2 play as well, added bonus |
| 03:19.51 | XenoX101 | cool |
| 03:19.54 | XenoX101 | you been watching GSL? |
| 03:20.03 | slightlyrandom | Naw, not really |
| 03:20.14 | XenoX101 | blasphemy! ;p |
| 03:20.19 | slightlyrandom | Sorry, I know I should |
| 03:20.23 | XenoX101 | its been pretty good, yesterday was a bit of a downer |
| 03:20.33 | XenoX101 | the stream went down at one point XD |
| 03:20.36 | slightlyrandom | heh |
| 03:20.37 | XenoX101 | for a good 15 minutes |
| 03:20.39 | slightlyrandom | Bugger |
| 03:20.42 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 03:21.02 | XenoX101 | its been good though |
| 03:21.17 | XenoX101 | Jinro beat ogs.MC with mech |
| 03:21.25 | XenoX101 | like literally just siege hellion thor |
| 03:21.32 | slightlyrandom | What does MC play ? |
| 03:21.33 | XenoX101 | and viking |
| 03:21.36 | XenoX101 | protoss |
| 03:21.39 | slightlyrandom | hah, nice |
| 03:21.48 | XenoX101 | it was amazing |
| 03:21.52 | XenoX101 | he even went |
| 03:21.54 | slightlyrandom | Bio gets old |
| 03:21.55 | XenoX101 | mass immortal |
| 03:22.03 | XenoX101 | immortals are so good vs siege and what not |
| 03:22.06 | XenoX101 | but still not good enough |
| 03:22.15 | XenoX101 | yeah bio gets old quick |
| 03:22.27 | XenoX101 | well the whole point of tier 2 and tier 3 units |
| 03:22.35 | XenoX101 | is for more advanced players to be able to utilize them |
| 03:22.39 | slightlyrandom | :) |
| 03:22.48 | XenoX101 | so its great to see jinro doing just that |
| 03:23.10 | slightlyrandom | Hey, Husky casted this game |
| 03:23.17 | XenoX101 | husky, eh |
| 03:23.23 | XenoX101 | none of those casters really know much |
| 03:23.30 | XenoX101 | with the exception of day[9] |
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| 03:23.36 | slightlyrandom | The one I am watching from TLO's achieved stream |
| 03:23.37 | Phaos | if all I want at this point is a missile to fire. all I need is a launch missile effect right ? (with mover + ammo unit + actor) |
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| 03:23.45 | XenoX101 | like 99% of what they are saying is something you can already see |
| 03:23.47 | slightlyrandom | Yeah, it's mostly for the entertainment value |
| 03:23.49 | XenoX101 | you're like 'thanks husky' |
| 03:23.52 | slightlyrandom | Supply your own knowledge |
| 03:24.05 | XenoX101 | its good for the blind |
| 03:24.08 | XenoX101 | but other then that ;p |
| 03:24.19 | XenoX101 | day[9], tasteless and artosis all do a good job I think |
| 03:24.34 | XenoX101 | giving actual insight and strategic commentary |
| 03:24.50 | Focke-Wulf | Howdy all, I got a cat and mouse called Infestation Sensation I need tested - currently in need of balancing |
| 03:24.50 | slightlyrandom | Phaos: No clue :P |
| 03:24.54 | Focke-Wulf | anyone interested? |
| 03:25.03 | XenoX101 | lol, how funny is this, I googled oblong and I got a picture of Jennifer Aniston |
| 03:25.09 | slightlyrandom | hah |
| 03:25.16 | slightlyrandom | Guess her face is sort of rectangular |
| 03:25.20 | Phaos | Xenox101 |
| 03:25.25 | XenoX101 | yo |
| 03:25.27 | Focke-Wulf | Map test anyone wanna come test it? |
| 03:25.32 | Phaos | give to me your brain knowledges |
| 03:25.42 | slightlyrandom | (04:23:39) Phaos: if all I want at this point is a missile to fire. all I need is a launch missile effect right ? (with mover + ammo unit + actor) |
| 03:26.36 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 03:26.37 | XenoX101 | on what |
| 03:26.49 | XenoX101 | oh yeah |
| 03:26.52 | XenoX101 | launch missile effect |
| 03:27.12 | XenoX101 | if you want it to hit shit you'll need to use a behaviour |
| 03:27.21 | XenoX101 | with a search area periodic |
| 03:27.26 | XenoX101 | on the missile |
| 03:27.32 | Phaos | alright. so. if i'm using the ability and no projectile is flying from the character |
| 03:27.36 | XenoX101 | which does two things: deal damage and destroy the missile |
| 03:27.41 | Phaos | what would the problem most likely be ? |
| 03:27.43 | XenoX101 | did you create the actor for the missile |
| 03:27.46 | Phaos | actor is hooked to ammo unit |
| 03:27.55 | XenoX101 | err |
| 03:28.00 | XenoX101 | ammo unit is the missile unit |
| 03:28.07 | XenoX101 | the actor should be hooked to the missile unit |
| 03:28.16 | Phaos | it's called ammo unit in the effect field >.> |
| 03:28.24 | Phaos | yes it is hooked :P |
| 03:28.26 | XenoX101 | thats not where the actor goes though |
| 03:28.30 | XenoX101 | thats where the unit goes |
| 03:28.35 | Phaos | yes |
| 03:28.36 | XenoX101 | ammo UNIT |
| 03:28.48 | XenoX101 | so you have the missile unit hooked to the ammo unit |
| 03:28.48 | Phaos | but the actor. is linked to the unit. which is linked to the effect |
| 03:28.59 | XenoX101 | yeah but dont skip things |
| 03:29.03 | XenoX101 | thats how you break it |
| 03:29.06 | Phaos | what am I skipping ? |
| 03:29.14 | XenoX101 | <Phaos> actor is hooked to ammo unit |
| 03:29.15 | XenoX101 | that was wrong |
| 03:29.20 | XenoX101 | you skipped the middle step |
| 03:29.32 | XenoX101 | in explaining it |
| 03:29.32 | Phaos | I did ? |
| 03:29.33 | XenoX101 | anyway |
| 03:29.36 | XenoX101 | yes |
| 03:29.40 | Phaos | arn't I giving the unit an actor ? |
| 03:29.41 | XenoX101 | the actor is not directly hooked to the ammo unit |
| 03:29.50 | Phaos | oh I see |
| 03:29.53 | XenoX101 | it is the missile unit that is hooked to the ammo unit |
| 03:29.57 | XenoX101 | if you delete the actor |
| 03:30.02 | XenoX101 | the missile unit is still hooked to the ammo unit |
| 03:30.13 | XenoX101 | if you delete the missile, the actor goes with it |
| 03:30.21 | XenoX101 | so its the missile unit that is hooked, not the actor |
| 03:30.23 | Phaos | ok so I need /two/ units |
| 03:30.25 | Phaos | an ammo unit |
| 03:30.26 | XenoX101 | no |
| 03:30.29 | Phaos | and a missile unit ? |
| 03:30.34 | XenoX101 | a missile unit is all you need |
| 03:30.40 | XenoX101 | the missile unit is connected to your ammo unit |
| 03:30.43 | Phaos | well I have that |
| 03:30.43 | XenoX101 | err |
| 03:30.46 | XenoX101 | to the ammo unit field |
| 03:30.50 | XenoX101 | ammo unit is just a field |
| 03:30.54 | Phaos | that I have done |
| 03:30.55 | XenoX101 | for the missile unit |
| 03:30.56 | XenoX101 | ok |
| 03:30.59 | XenoX101 | now |
| 03:31.03 | XenoX101 | the missile actor |
| 03:31.05 | XenoX101 | does it have |
| 03:31.08 | Phaos | Unit - Ammo Unit = @ Test Attack Unit |
| 03:31.08 | XenoX101 | UnitBirth.YourMissile |
| 03:31.10 | XenoX101 | create |
| 03:31.49 | Phaos | UnitBirth.TestAttackUnit |
| 03:31.49 | Phaos | Create |
| 03:31.51 | Phaos | Check |
| 03:32.19 | XenoX101 | and |
| 03:32.20 | XenoX101 | animation play? |
| 03:32.23 | XenoX101 | or animation bracket |
| 03:32.41 | XenoX101 | should be |
| 03:32.44 | XenoX101 | ActorCreation > |
| 03:32.49 | XenoX101 | Animation Bracket Start BSD |
| 03:32.51 | Phaos | I got lazy. so what I did for the actor is just duplicate the photo cannon attack actor |
| 03:32.56 | Phaos | and change the attached model |
| 03:33.01 | XenoX101 | yeah see |
| 03:33.02 | Phaos | so yes |
| 03:33.08 | XenoX101 | does your model have |
| 03:33.13 | XenoX101 | a birth stand and death animation |
| 03:33.13 | Phaos | it has a birth stand death bracket |
| 03:33.20 | Phaos | yes it does |
| 03:33.22 | XenoX101 | what model is it |
| 03:33.27 | XenoX101 | I'll double check |
| 03:33.29 | Phaos | Photon Cannon Weapon |
| 03:33.51 | XenoX101 | there is no photon cannon weapon |
| 03:34.04 | XenoX101 | ah |
| 03:34.08 | XenoX101 | PhaseCannonMissile.m3 |
| 03:34.19 | Phaos | hang on |
| 03:34.19 | XenoX101 | yes that should be fine |
| 03:34.23 | Phaos | gotta go model diving now |
| 03:34.49 | Phaos | yeah it usses PhaseCannonMissile.m3 |
| 03:35.35 | Phaos | it will be an issue with the effect. I just know it :P |
| 03:35.37 | Phaos | or the mover |
| 03:36.05 | Phaos | I don't know what an appropriate speed for the mover is or acceleration :P |
| 03:36.15 | Phaos | so it's probably firing |
| 03:36.16 | Phaos | just |
| 03:36.22 | Phaos | it's gone before you see it |
| 03:36.59 | Phaos | I have max and min speed set to 10 |
| 03:37.05 | Phaos | and acceleration 1000 |
| 03:37.14 | XenoX101 | 10 is fairly fast |
| 03:38.03 | Phaos | photon cannon goes at 18 apparently |
| 03:38.14 | XenoX101 | ah right |
| 03:38.24 | XenoX101 | well it could be a ton of things |
| 03:38.28 | XenoX101 | check your actor is a missile type |
| 03:38.40 | XenoX101 | check ability has "launch missile" in its effect area |
| 03:39.15 | XenoX101 | check that target - launch location of that effect is caster |
| 03:39.18 | XenoX101 | or source |
| 03:39.19 | Phaos | missile type check |
| 03:39.26 | XenoX101 | and impact location is target |
| 03:39.48 | Phaos | effect has the missile |
| 03:40.13 | Phaos | launch is source Unit |
| 03:40.26 | Phaos | impact is target point |
| 03:42.58 | XenoX101 | mm |
| 03:43.01 | XenoX101 | dunno |
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| 03:43.52 | Phaos | well it is my mover |
| 03:44.02 | Phaos | I changed the missile mover to photon cannon |
| 03:44.06 | Phaos | amd it worked |
| 03:44.17 | Phaos | change it to my mover. and it became invisible |
| 03:44.41 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 03:44.45 | XenoX101 | you must have done something |
| 03:45.12 | XenoX101 | oh wait |
| 03:45.15 | XenoX101 | go to the bottom |
| 03:45.17 | XenoX101 | of the mover |
| 03:45.20 | XenoX101 | and change "Throw vector" |
| 03:45.26 | XenoX101 | change "Y" to "-1 |
| 03:45.27 | XenoX101 | " |
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| 03:45.53 | slightlyrandom | haha |
| 03:46.01 | slightlyrandom | Answer given, but not recieved |
| 03:46.11 | slightlyrandom | How much is it worth to ya Phaos1 ? :D |
| 03:46.13 | Phaos1 | eh? |
| 03:46.29 | Phaos1 | my internet cut out |
| 03:46.40 | XenoX101 | change "Throw Vector" value "Y" to "-1" |
| 03:46.40 | Phaos1 | and I have lost everything from (4:44:14 PM) Phaos: change it to my mover. and it became invisible |
| 03:46.53 | XenoX101 | on your mover |
| 03:46.57 | Phaos1 | AH |
| 03:47.17 | XenoX101 | that works essentially like a slingshot |
| 03:48.10 | XenoX101 | the -1 means that the metaphorical slingshot pulls back to exactly 1* the scale of speed of the missile |
| 03:48.14 | XenoX101 | then fires |
| 03:48.19 | XenoX101 | (you dont see it do this) |
| 03:49.35 | Phaos1 | YAY it shows up now |
| 03:49.47 | Phaos1 | thanks XenoX101 :D |
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| 03:49.55 | XenoX101 | np ;p |
| 03:50.03 | Phaos1 | now to do the bit I do know |
| 03:50.07 | Phaos1 | behaviors |
| 03:53.53 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 03:54.02 | XenoX101 | is there any way I can get an idea of how my regions are layed out? |
| 03:54.11 | XenoX101 | I have two for loops making a grid of circle regions |
| 03:54.56 | slightlyrandom | Try putting units in the em :P |
| 03:55.10 | XenoX101 | hm good idea |
| 03:55.48 | XenoX101 | actually |
| 03:55.55 | XenoX101 | I cant because these are all 'add region to region' |
| 03:56.14 | slightlyrandom | Random point in region, repeat 100 times |
| 03:56.53 | slightlyrandom | The clever way would be to change the texture within it, or something |
| 03:57.08 | slightlyrandom | If such a thing is even possible |
| 03:57.50 | slightlyrandom | You could also make a click check thing, that'll report whether any given mouse click is within the region or not |
| 03:58.13 | XenoX101 | eh that'd be difficult |
| 03:58.20 | slightlyrandom | I'm gonna keep throwing out silly ideas until I hit on one that sounds decent |
| 03:58.22 | slightlyrandom | Naw, not too hard |
| 03:58.28 | XenoX101 | no as in |
| 03:58.36 | slightlyrandom | To use ? |
| 03:58.38 | XenoX101 | to extrapolate from |
| 03:58.38 | slightlyrandom | Yeah :D |
| 03:58.39 | XenoX101 | ya |
| 03:59.04 | slightlyrandom | Well, if you could color it blue, that'd be optimal |
| 03:59.42 | XenoX101 | actually I got a better idea |
| 03:59.59 | XenoX101 | instead of going "add asdsfdgHEADFUCK region to region" |
| 04:00.02 | XenoX101 | I'll do |
| 04:00.10 | XenoX101 | "add adsfohadsHEADFUCK region to DummyRegion" |
| 04:00.14 | XenoX101 | "add DummyRegion to region" |
| 04:00.23 | XenoX101 | then I can use DummyRegion to spawn a unit in the center of |
| 04:00.27 | XenoX101 | to see if my points are aligning |
| 04:00.54 | XenoX101 | and of course I clear the region after each loop |
| 04:01.00 | XenoX101 | (the dummy region) |
| 04:01.26 | XenoX101 | hm how can I clear a region |
| 04:01.35 | slightlyrandom | Reset it |
| 04:01.48 | slightlyrandom | Set dummy region == region |
| 04:01.59 | XenoX101 | ah yeah |
| 04:02.33 | XenoX101 | I'm so glad I can use polar offset |
| 04:02.38 | XenoX101 | it makes my life 100 times easier |
| 04:02.48 | slightlyrandom | Pays the rent, too |
| 04:02.54 | XenoX101 | heh ;p |
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| 04:04.04 | slightlyrandom | Has anyone done a world wrap thing yet? |
| 04:04.14 | slightlyrandom | Faking a round world |
| 04:04.24 | XenoX101 | dont think so and dont think its possible |
| 04:04.31 | slightlyrandom | Sure it's possible |
| 04:04.44 | XenoX101 | unless you make like a giant hill |
| 04:04.44 | slightlyrandom | Well, not warping the terrain, naturally |
| 04:04.48 | XenoX101 | set the camera |
| 04:04.50 | slightlyrandom | Nono |
| 04:05.03 | slightlyrandom | Flat earth, but walk off the edge, return to the other side |
| 04:05.08 | slightlyrandom | Which is easy |
| 04:05.11 | XenoX101 | oh ya |
| 04:05.14 | CreationAKARyan | any sc2mapster admins online? |
| 04:05.29 | slightlyrandom | Problem is appearances once a unit is supposed to be in two places at once |
| 04:05.43 | slightlyrandom | Ie. on the left side of the map, as well as off of the right side of it |
| 04:06.07 | onetwo | hey what was that cinematic that was released back in the day with a massive war |
| 04:06.10 | onetwo | between zerg and protoss |
| 04:06.14 | onetwo | one of the first sc2 made ones |
| 04:06.37 | XenoX101 | should I use 'no region' or empty region? |
| 04:07.04 | slightlyrandom | Empty sounds right |
| 04:07.09 | slightlyrandom | What are you trying to do ? |
| 04:07.19 | slightlyrandom | Reset a region to nothing ? |
| 04:07.30 | XenoX101 | set region variable at start |
| 04:07.34 | XenoX101 | and reset it yes |
| 04:08.13 | slightlyrandom | Well, do both, discover what the difference is |
| 04:09.28 | XenoX101 | yeah its empty region |
| 04:11.44 | XenoX101 | are X and Y coordinates integers or reals? |
| 04:12.31 | slightlyrandom | reals, I'm pretty sure |
| 04:12.55 | XenoX101 | k |
| 04:14.40 | XenoX101 | hm ok |
| 04:14.43 | XenoX101 | so it works in one direction |
| 04:14.45 | XenoX101 | but not in two |
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| 04:17.27 | Skizot | FFFFFF |
| 04:17.44 | onetwo | FFFFFFFF |
| 04:17.55 | XenoX101 | do I need to put a wait in? |
| 04:17.58 | slightlyrandom | That'd be white |
| 04:19.00 | XenoX101 | oh wait haha it does work |
| 04:19.04 | XenoX101 | I just wasnt noticing it XD |
| 04:21.13 | XenoX101 | sweet |
| 04:21.38 | Skizot | it would be white... WHITE HOT RAGE |
| 04:25.28 | JManV | has anyone figured out how to do custom styles yet? |
| 04:28.23 | XenoX101 | amazing, this works perfectly |
| 04:32.23 | XenoX101 | sweet, I've made a working wind tunnel XD |
| 04:33.17 | XenoX101 | the hardest part now is making the cursor for it :( |
| 04:33.55 | XenoX101 | for next time! ;p |
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| 05:10.00 | pirate | question |
| 05:10.36 | pirate | if I got an actor attached to a unit in response to a behavior, how come the actor isnt destroyed if the unit dies? |
| 05:11.09 | pirate | NVM got it |
| 05:11.54 | onetwo | what was the reason? |
| 05:12.47 | pirate | event for destroy message wasnt set to "Behavior.X.Off" |
| 05:13.11 | pirate | was a timer isntead |
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| 06:32.36 | Hedus | to have an ability of effect target must I have an effect that effects the target? I keep trying to simply apply a charge buff(3x speed) when i use an ability on a target but somethings not working... |
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| 06:33.21 | Lilianna | If you use Effect Target you need to target something |
| 06:33.27 | Lilianna | but you can also modify the caster |
| 06:34.30 | Hedus | hmmm yeah k |
| 06:35.42 | Lilianna | if you are just buffing the caster use Effect-Instant |
| 06:36.18 | Hedus | yeah, but i want a range so that you cant do it unless close |
| 06:42.50 | Hedus | uuuugg |
| 06:43.59 | Hedus | i dont see how an ability gets simpler: ability of effect target, fires and effect that applies behavior to caster, behavior modifies speed to 3x. BUT IVE SPENT HOURS AND IT FAILLLSS :'( |
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| 06:57.47 | Lybbarde | hi people. can i pls get a hand with making my hero level? he's just staying on level 0 and getting nothing for killing mobs |
| 07:04.23 | Hedus | Hey uhm, what does an ability need to work? I have: a button, an effect adding a behavior to caster, the simple behavior, range of 10, it is on the unit thats casting it.... anything im missing? |
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| 08:07.18 | CreationAKARyan | Anyone know how to look at the triggers inside of a lib mod? |
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| 08:19.52 | CreationAKARyan | anyone know? :/ |
| 08:20.11 | Hati | what? |
| 08:20.12 | CreationAKARyan | im trying to view a trigger library someone made with galaxy script |
| 08:20.32 | CreationAKARyan | i have the map downloaded |
| 08:20.37 | CreationAKARyan | trying to figure out how to get into it |
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| 08:20.43 | Hati | F6 |
| 08:20.53 | Hati | maybe he hasn't localized his map - so you only see empty stuff |
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| 08:21.13 | Helral|Work | not localized results in Param/Value/... terms. |
| 08:21.16 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 08:21.25 | CreationAKARyan | he made it possible to view from what he said... f6 just opens up the triggers |
| 08:21.39 | Hati | woofs |
| 08:21.50 | Hati | link? |
| 08:21.51 | Helral|Work | throws a stick |
| 08:21.54 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 08:22.00 | CreationAKARyan | sure one sec |
| 08:22.02 | Hati | barks |
| 08:22.14 | CreationAKARyan | http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/starcraft-discussion-676/library-chatbox-xd-schurke-179849/ |
| 08:22.34 | Hati | but u've downloaded the SC2Lib ... ? |
| 08:22.41 | CreationAKARyan | downloaded both |
| 08:22.50 | CreationAKARyan | not sure what to do from here, never worked with a Lib |
| 08:23.02 | Helral|Work | what's the problem? |
| 08:23.09 | Hati | Lib is the actual lib |
| 08:23.13 | CreationAKARyan | just trying to get into some guys code and change it |
| 08:23.16 | Hati | SC2Map maybe just refers to it |
| 08:23.32 | CreationAKARyan | so what do I need to do? |
| 08:23.38 | Helral|Work | ahhh did you open the libraries in the trigger editor (CTRL+L (i think)) |
| 08:24.04 | CreationAKARyan | CTRL L does nothing |
| 08:24.51 | Helral|Work | you in the trigger editor? |
| 08:25.04 | CreationAKARyan | yes |
| 08:25.07 | Hati | uhm |
| 08:25.08 | Helral|Work | there are 2 buttons near eachother, they look about the same. |
| 08:25.17 | Hati | yeah make sure you enabled lib-view |
| 08:25.25 | Helral|Work | one of them opens a panel above the triggers, the other below the actions inside the triggers. |
| 08:25.58 | CreationAKARyan | ah ok... got that far |
| 08:26.06 | CreationAKARyan | now im looking at these functions |
| 08:26.08 | Hati | now lib should be in upper one |
| 08:26.16 | CreationAKARyan | and it looks like this was.. written in galaxy |
| 08:26.46 | CreationAKARyan | fml |
| 08:27.14 | Helral|Work | there are just some small things left (like documentation and GUI support) <-- as he said. ;p |
| 08:27.21 | Helral|Work | he doesn't have GUI support in it yet ;p |
| 08:27.36 | CreationAKARyan | so theres no way to modify this unless i know galaxy eh? |
| 08:27.43 | CreationAKARyan | looks like he didnt use a single damn trigger |
| 08:28.21 | Hati | there is |
| 08:28.27 | Hati | you can edit the SC2Lib with text-editor |
| 08:28.54 | Helral|Work | Hati: or just with the custom script editor in the trigger editor |
| 08:29.34 | Hati | well or the simple Trigger editor |
| 08:29.36 | CreationAKARyan | yeah theres a function looking thingy inside that looks like galaxy script labelled Core |
| 08:29.59 | CreationAKARyan | so knowing the lingo here is the only way to edit this, correct? |
| 08:30.02 | Helral|Work | ow he says full GUI support at a later post. |
| 08:30.04 | Helral|Work | right.... |
| 08:30.12 | Helral|Work | idiot who doesn't update his first post. |
| 08:30.21 | Helral|Work | has a personal opinion. |
| 08:30.39 | CreationAKARyan | *looks like a lost puppy* |
| 08:30.55 | Helral|Work | throws a ball for the puppy to fetch |
| 08:30.58 | CreationAKARyan | halpz O_O |
| 08:31.25 | Hati | CreationAKARyan: or knowing C++/C helps a lot |
| 08:31.41 | Hati | or any other programming/script language |
| 08:31.43 | CreationAKARyan | I know XHTML 1.0 transitional... |
| 08:31.47 | CreationAKARyan | sort of |
| 08:31.53 | CreationAKARyan | but i usually just copy paste crap |
| 08:32.02 | CreationAKARyan | so I dont really know it.. |
| 08:33.16 | CreationAKARyan | if I can just figure out where in this code to modify the dialog box's height, width, and XY position, i'll be good |
| 08:33.23 | CreationAKARyan | thats all im trying to do |
| 08:33.38 | Hati | const int S_SIZE_WIDTH = 600; |
| 08:33.38 | Hati | const int S_SIZE_HEIGHT = 400; |
| 08:34.13 | CreationAKARyan | duh.. right at the top |
| 08:34.15 | CreationAKARyan | thanks.. |
| 08:34.17 | Hati | position is dynamic |
| 08:34.57 | CreationAKARyan | yeah i know its dynamic but theres got to be some default starting position of the dialog |
| 08:35.02 | CreationAKARyan | right? |
| 08:36.56 | CreationAKARyan | heh changing that height and width does nothing.. |
| 08:36.57 | Hati | but why change default values if you have a function o adjust them anyway :o |
| 08:37.21 | CreationAKARyan | for a professional look when the game opens up.. |
| 08:37.45 | CreationAKARyan | so theres not a big ugly dialog in the middle of the screen |
| 08:39.20 | CreationAKARyan | ok starting to get the hang of this... |
| 08:39.52 | Helral|Work | moderators having an internal fight over the location of my SC2Layout tutorial (in my opinion it is a tutorial) |
| 08:40.40 | Helral|Work | 1 moved it to "Map Development", the other send me a message the he moved it to "Tutorials". |
| 08:41.25 | Hati | uhm |
| 08:43.02 | CreationAKARyan | k this is weird, changing the value of const int S_SIZE_WIDTH = 600; does nothing even though I can clearly see that label is linked to it in external functions! |
| 08:48.27 | Helral|Work | purl where is Phaos? |
| 08:48.28 | purl | Helral|Work: I think you lost me on that one |
| 08:48.35 | Helral|Work | ~phaos |
| 08:48.44 | CreationAKARyan | *sigh* |
| 08:48.51 | CreationAKARyan | *bangs head against sword* |
| 08:48.53 | Helral|Work | meow? |
| 08:48.57 | CreationAKARyan | im so close |
| 08:49.07 | CreationAKARyan | I just cant figure out how to adjust this dialog size |
| 08:49.10 | CreationAKARyan | I got the position |
| 08:49.13 | Helral|Work | CreationAKARyan: use the bllunt back of the double edged sword. |
| 08:49.21 | CreationAKARyan | but can't get the size to change |
| 08:54.18 | CreationAKARyan | k i give up, this is out of my echelon |
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| 09:00.19 | Rodrigo | so, there is NO WAY to make the new blizzard's edit box multiple line? |
| 09:00.27 | CreationAKARyan | whatever i just sent him a PM.. maybe he can help me |
| 09:00.42 | CreationAKARyan | what edit box? |
| 09:01.46 | Rodrigo | the new one released with patch 1.2 |
| 09:02.07 | Rodrigo | I tried to make it multiple line, but I can't find a way to |
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| 09:32.27 | Helral|Work | Phaos: I tested it. |
| 09:32.56 | Phaos | tested which ? |
| 09:33.13 | Helral|Work | Phaos: the condition I mentioned doesn't exist in SC2 (did in WC3 I think) but you can now check it with: Unit in unit group (Idle units from player) |
| 09:33.20 | Helral|Work | the idle thingy ;p |
| 09:33.38 | Phaos | oh right |
| 09:34.03 | Helral|Work | I thought that "Unit is Idle" was an actual condition. |
| 09:34.07 | Helral|Work | apparently not. |
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| 09:51.16 | Lybbarde | hi. is there anyone on who can help me troubleshoot why my hero can't get xp? |
| 09:57.25 | Helral|Work | does it have the veterancy behavior? |
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| 10:03.36 | Lybbarde | thanks helral, yes it does have veterancy |
| 10:03.56 | Lybbarde | it comes up as level 0 at the start |
| 10:04.03 | Lybbarde | and has the xp bar and the attributes |
| 10:04.11 | Lybbarde | but then when i kill stuff, they just don't grant it xp |
| 10:04.22 | Lybbarde | maybe somewhere within my veterency there's an incorrect value tho |
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| 10:07.53 | Helral|Work | does the units you kill grant xp. |
| 10:08.01 | Helral|Work | see the unit - XP value in the data editor |
| 10:11.40 | Lybbarde | yes, they do |
| 10:11.53 | Lybbarde | thanks very much. my gf just pointed out to me tho that i'm on a melee test map |
| 10:11.55 | Lybbarde | dufus me |
| 10:12.06 | Lybbarde | i feel really silly now |
| 10:12.15 | Helral|Work | owyeah remove the melee stuff ;p that disables the xp |
| 10:12.22 | Lybbarde | i seem to go so long each time working on something before i work it out |
| 10:12.32 | Lybbarde | yeah i dunno why they do that |
| 10:12.37 | Helral|Work | and your gf always fixes it for you? ;p |
| 10:12.57 | Lybbarde | um, well sometimes when i'm working on things and failing and she walks in, as i'm talking through what i did it works that time |
| 10:13.03 | Lybbarde | she just has the air of success about her |
| 10:14.02 | Lybbarde | i should ask her next how to make units other than the diamondback shoot while moving |
| 10:14.15 | Lybbarde | or even better, to get medics to heal while moving |
| 10:14.34 | Lybbarde | that's my other current area of fail |
| 10:14.42 | Helral|Work | then we don't have to help you with that ;p |
| 10:15.18 | Lybbarde | yeah lol. but if you know i'd love a hand. she's off eating my ice cream now |
| 10:15.44 | Helral|Work | ow I thought she was off eating your hand, because you needed a new hand..... |
| 10:16.26 | Helral|Work | think you need to set a few flags. like transient orso, don't know exactly which ones ;p |
| 10:18.51 | Lybbarde | thanks i'll check the flags, you don't happen to know if the flag is in the weapon or in the unit do you? that would narrow it down a lot |
| 10:19.00 | Lybbarde | i spent a lot of time comparing it to a vulture |
| 10:19.11 | Lybbarde | but yet to find a flag they're different in that gives me the hint i need |
| 10:19.43 | Helral|Work | in the weapon most likely. |
| 10:20.19 | Lybbarde | thanks i'll check weapon the most then |
| 10:32.57 | Skizot | :| |
| 10:41.41 | Lybbarde | i worked it out there's 2 tick boxes to uncheck on the unit to not allow it to shoot while moving, there's the weapon being allowed to shoot while moving |
| 10:41.50 | Lybbarde | but my problem was that my weapon could only shoot forwards |
| 10:41.57 | Lybbarde | and i wasn't heading at the targets just right |
| 10:42.18 | Lybbarde | wheras the weapon on the diamondback can be shot any direction cos it's turret mounted |
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| 11:34.55 | CreationAKARyan | hey |
| 11:35.19 | CreationAKARyan | Guys is it possible to create custom animations for existing models? |
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| 11:36.14 | Skizot | yes |
| 11:36.22 | Skizot | what animations are you after? |
| 11:36.43 | Clord | XD |
| 11:37.45 | Clord | I wrorked my ass off yesterday with map |
| 11:37.50 | Clord | worked... |
| 11:38.30 | Clord | made deck system from ground up to hold actual cards in infinite pile of cards ^^ |
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| 11:41.54 | Clord | jack-of-all-trades deck is deck with all cards just like before |
| 11:41.55 | Clord | ^^ |
| 11:42.54 | Clord | then people can try their chances with random deck too.... it is deck what randomly forms itself when selected |
| 11:48.07 | Clord | there is currently five decks to pick from.... |
| 11:48.17 | Clord | also deck builder is probably final unlock as deck lol ^^ |
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| 11:54.59 | Agouti | hihi |
| 11:56.35 | Clord | hi |
| 11:56.44 | Clord | this chat channel has been dying quite while now |
| 11:56.49 | Clord | SCII made it truly rot lol |
| 11:57.05 | Agouti | It's cos everyone has been too busy fixing the bugs from 1.2 ;) |
| 11:57.31 | Clord | hehe |
| 11:57.33 | Clord | anyways..... |
| 11:57.37 | Agouti | I'm still trying to work out how to fix the Stand animation for a mutalisk with a ground mover :( |
| 11:57.39 | Clord | SCII could use smaller font for chat channels |
| 11:57.45 | Clord | even 1600X1200 resolution that font is gigantic |
| 11:57.46 | Agouti | mmm |
| 11:57.46 | Clord | lol |
| 11:57.53 | Agouti | it is a bit |
| 11:58.03 | Agouti | would it kill them to have a A+ a- ? |
| 11:58.07 | Clord | options for font size would rock related to chat channels lol |
| 11:58.29 | Clord | it is annoying to try chat with small window while playing ^^ |
| 11:58.35 | Agouti | mmhmm |
| 11:58.39 | Clord | because font takes so damn many lines lol |
| 11:59.14 | Agouti | any ideas on stand animations for flyers with ground movers? |
| 12:04.24 | Clord | hmmm |
| 12:04.42 | Clord | I'm not really animators so dunno ^^ |
| 12:04.44 | Agouti | I know it's not just a broken actor, I change the mover to fly and it works |
| 12:05.13 | Agouti | plus the stand animations will work some times, just most of the time they don't play, |
| 12:05.33 | Clord | usually movers should not break anything even if changed... as far I know... >_> |
| 12:05.57 | Agouti | mmhmm |
| 12:06.28 | Clord | but yeah... I have typically needed air units just as air units etc |
| 12:06.37 | Agouti | and mutas with ground movers still count as flying to the actor - you still get a flyer helper |
| 12:18.47 | Clord | hehe as far physics in SCII go |
| 12:19.02 | Clord | it is really behind ^^ |
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| 12:19.28 | Agouti | I don't think it was ever a focus |
| 12:20.07 | Agouti | I mean sure it's pretty, but I don't think it would make much difference |
| 12:20.14 | Agouti | and it would be more load less fps etc |
| 12:24.41 | Clord | hmmm there is some basic physics at least |
| 12:24.47 | Clord | for certain stuff |
| 12:24.49 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:24.54 | Agouti | heh |
| 12:25.06 | Agouti | kinda token though |
| 12:25.45 | Clord | like for example firebat.. when it is killed |
| 12:25.55 | Clord | that weird part is left behind rolling |
| 12:25.56 | Clord | lol |
| 12:26.22 | Agouti | it would be nice if you could use it |
| 12:26.24 | Agouti | o well |
| 12:26.48 | Clord | also those xel'naga gates breaking up and what else |
| 12:26.49 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:33.19 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 12:33.41 | Agouti | hey helral |
| 12:33.57 | Clord | lol |
| 12:33.59 | Helral|Work | hides behind his desk |
| 12:34.00 | Clord | he meows |
| 12:34.03 | Clord | and he is always working |
| 12:34.05 | Agouti | do you know any reason why changing the mover on a mutalisk might make the Stand End animations freeze? |
| 12:34.22 | Clord | =) |
| 12:34.23 | Helral|Work | hmmmm it doesn't loop anymore while it should? |
| 12:34.38 | Agouti | Stand does, Walk does |
| 12:34.42 | Clord | maybe it evolved to freezelisk! |
| 12:34.47 | Clord | and shoots freezing breath |
| 12:34.47 | Agouti | but 95% of the time Stand End does not |
| 12:34.54 | Helral|Work | Clord: hoverlisk ;p |
| 12:34.58 | Clord | kik |
| 12:34.59 | Clord | lol |
| 12:35.10 | Clord | but freezelisk hovers without visibly moving itself |
| 12:35.11 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:35.12 | Agouti | Stand End plays as a stop animation type thing, it's like a backwing |
| 12:35.23 | Helral|Work | hmmm |
| 12:35.27 | Helral|Work | no clue :) |
| 12:35.29 | Clord | backwind yeah |
| 12:35.41 | Helral|Work | can generate backwind. |
| 12:35.53 | Agouti | g* |
| 12:35.57 | Clord | lol... yeah |
| 12:36.00 | Helral|Work | hey Clord, pull my finger. hehehe ;p |
| 12:36.00 | Clord | almost every human can |
| 12:36.16 | Agouti | I'm guessing that is a "no" |
| 12:36.35 | Helral|Work | no clue. Agouti |
| 12:36.50 | Helral|Work | I've never paid much attention to actors ;p |
| 12:36.55 | Clord | ask Budha... he would probably tell that there is no yes and no |
| 12:36.58 | Clord | XD |
| 12:37.13 | Helral|Work | ~8ball are mutalisks with ground movers broken actors? |
| 12:37.13 | purl | No. |
| 12:37.27 | Agouti | :< |
| 12:37.38 | Helral|Work | ~8ball am I a cat? |
| 12:37.39 | purl | Please ask again. |
| 12:37.42 | Helral|Work | ~8ball am I a cat?? |
| 12:37.42 | purl | Are you smoking crack? |
| 12:37.49 | Helral|Work | ~8ball no. |
| 12:37.49 | purl | I'm not sure. |
| 12:38.00 | Agouti | I can't even see what controls the Stand End anim |
| 12:38.01 | Helral|Work | uses purl as a scratching post. |
| 12:38.02 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 12:38.06 | Helral|Work | hmmm |
| 12:38.11 | Agouti | it's not part of the Baseline |
| 12:38.34 | Clord | ~8ball cracking games? |
| 12:38.34 | purl | Unsure. |
| 12:38.54 | Helral|Work | ~8ball is Clord actually 80% water? |
| 12:38.54 | purl | Sure. Yeah, exactly. |
| 12:38.58 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 12:39.29 | Helral|Work | btw Clord have you played around with the UI files yet? |
| 12:40.00 | Clord | PS3 is currently piraters spoon.... little big planet 2 is also there lol |
| 12:40.04 | Clord | nah |
| 12:40.07 | Clord | I prefer dialogue |
| 12:40.08 | Clord | lol |
| 12:40.12 | Clord | it is easier for me... ^^ |
| 12:40.13 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 12:40.19 | CreationAKARyan | Any of you guys experienced with using loops? |
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| 12:40.26 | Helral|Work | I like the SC2Layout files, they let me keep the hotkeys ;p |
| 12:40.29 | Clord | plus it saves me from chace that patch breaks something |
| 12:40.34 | Helral|Work | ask away CreationAKARyan |
| 12:40.41 | CreationAKARyan | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:40.48 | CreationAKARyan | lets say i have a dialog that looks like that |
| 12:40.58 | CreationAKARyan | but i also have 9 other arrays I want to set for all players |
| 12:41.03 | Clord | hehe.... how I avoided patch 1.2 breaking my map was simple btw..... I didn't use sc2multi mod ^^ |
| 12:41.07 | CreationAKARyan | which for loop would I use to condense space |
| 12:41.17 | Helral|Work | Clord: I didn't do any data changes :) |
| 12:41.22 | Clord | hehe |
| 12:41.26 | Clord | but yeah |
| 12:41.40 | Clord | if you have no sc2multi mod in dependency list.... your map does not break from data side |
| 12:42.10 | Helral|Work | pick each integer 1 to <what ever size your array is> Dialog - Hide Demolition[picked integer] for all players. |
| 12:42.25 | Helral|Work | I'll prolly remove it soon ;p |
| 12:42.33 | Helral|Work | when I start working on the data stuff. |
| 12:42.33 | CreationAKARyan | ok so you wouldnt use a for loop |
| 12:42.40 | CreationAKARyan | gothcya |
| 12:42.45 | CreationAKARyan | thanks |
| 12:42.46 | Helral|Work | for each integer I is also possible |
| 12:42.56 | Helral|Work | but you'll need to specify a local variable then. |
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| 12:43.33 | Helral|Work | I usually use the pick each unless I have multiple loops (loop X start, loop Y start, actions, loop Y end, loop X end) |
| 12:44.39 | Clord | I would love graphical dialog maker... honestly XD |
| 12:45.04 | Agouti | well, I can suppress the Stand End animations by making the Walk baseline use the Stand animation |
| 12:52.15 | Hedus | Hey is there a way to not wait for an action definition to run before moving on to the next part of the trigger? for example I need to start a loop at the same time as i start another loop. but it always waits for one loop to go until it hits at least 1 wait action, so the second one is always delayed |
| 12:52.20 | Clord | list box dialog item... lol |
| 12:52.33 | Clord | let's see if this even works lol |
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| 12:54.01 | Clord | my idea is to use listbox for deck builder |
| 12:54.03 | Clord | ^^ |
| 12:54.11 | Clord | lol |
| 12:57.10 | Helral|Work | Hedus: the create thread option at the action definition |
| 12:58.14 | Hedus | omg i love you if this works |
| 12:58.19 | Hedus | sec gonna try it :P |
| 12:59.16 | CreationAKARyan | I think my video is going viral.... omg |
| 12:59.36 | CreationAKARyan | I got 1,500 people visiting my private forum for my map today |
| 12:59.44 | CreationAKARyan | O_O |
| 13:00.08 | Clord | this list box feature is odd lol |
| 13:00.27 | CreationAKARyan | I really like pulldown |
| 13:00.29 | Hedus | Helral your amazing thanks. That just solved so many problems so easily <3 |
| 13:00.30 | CreationAKARyan | works smooth |
| 13:01.39 | Clord | but I wonder how it gonna look like as there was no commands to desire dimensions or even position for listbox |
| 13:02.16 | Helral|Work | is currently wondering if Hedus is female... |
| 13:02.38 | Agouti | a kitten can dream |
| 13:02.41 | Clord | oh well |
| 13:02.43 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 13:02.45 | Clord | I just need make it move |
| 13:02.46 | Clord | ^^ |
| 13:02.50 | Clord | it is silly how it works |
| 13:02.57 | Clord | those listboxes |
| 13:03.18 | Helral|Work | Move Dialog Item, Set Dialog Item Size. |
| 13:03.21 | Hedus | sorry male =P |
| 13:03.42 | Helral|Work | thinks about not helping people anymore if they're going to love him for it. |
| 13:05.37 | Helral|Work | is off hunting mice. |
| 13:05.56 | Agouti | lols |
| 13:06.06 | Helral|Work | Squeeks |
| 13:06.14 | Helral|Work | is trying to lure a mouse |
| 13:06.27 | Agouti | http://www.sc2id.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=208&p=2210#p2210 |
| 13:06.36 | Helral|Work | Agouti: know what would be funny? |
| 13:06.37 | Clord | yeah I realized that |
| 13:06.41 | Clord | but I found it silly that |
| 13:06.43 | Agouti | a joke? |
| 13:06.52 | Clord | there was not directly in themseleves to move and size them |
| 13:06.52 | Clord | XD |
| 13:06.55 | Helral|Work | Agouti: if someone named mouse would enter this channel ;p |
| 13:07.14 | Mouse | squeeks |
| 13:07.19 | Helral|Work | jumps at Mouse |
| 13:07.32 | Mouse | runs for the dresser |
| 13:07.50 | Clord | anyways I make somewhat ugly deck builder as it is easier to use =) basically list box holds various unit names.... then selecting them adds cards to deck lists |
| 13:07.52 | Clord | :) |
| 13:08.00 | Mouse | morphs |
| 13:08.04 | Helral|Work | swipes at Mouse |
| 13:08.09 | Agouti | too late |
| 13:08.11 | Agouti | mwahahaha |
| 13:08.31 | Helral|Work | hits Agouti. |
| 13:08.33 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 13:08.39 | Agouti | :o |
| 13:08.42 | Agouti | bad kitty |
| 13:08.50 | Helral|Work | not my fault that the mouse morphed into you. |
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| 13:13.31 | Clord | I'm not sure about this stuff lol |
| 13:13.42 | Clord | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:13.45 | Clord | XD |
| 13:15.56 | Clord | it is so mystical |
| 13:16.01 | XenoX101 | hai gaiz |
| 13:16.13 | Agouti | hai |
| 13:16.24 | Clord | how in the lol that selected list item is supposed to be used right to detect what someone clicks from it |
| 13:16.25 | Clord | XD |
| 13:16.49 | XenoX101 | er what |
| 13:17.50 | Helral|Work | Custom value of (Selected list item of Deck Builder Dialog Item[(Triggering player)][1] for 1) ? |
| 13:18.03 | Helral|Work | or whatever stuff you can retrieve from the dialog item ;p |
| 13:18.20 | Helral|Work | assuming that list items themselves are also dialog items ;p |
| 13:19.18 | Helral|Work | you know what would be stupid. a listbox at which the dropdown is limited by the dialog size it is listed in. |
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| 13:19.38 | Helral|Work | you got 5 options, room for 1.5 in the frame cause else the frame looks stupid. |
| 13:19.41 | Helral|Work | roflol |
| 13:19.50 | Helral|Work | you only see the first 1 and a half option. |
| 13:20.06 | Helral|Work | that would really be stupid if it ends up like that ;p |
| 13:21.55 | Clord | it is just I click something from listbox but I never get message that I clicked it |
| 13:21.56 | Clord | lol |
| 13:22.11 | Helral|Work | dialog item changed event? |
| 13:22.15 | Helral|Work | not clicked prolly ;p |
| 13:22.38 | Clord | it works! |
| 13:22.39 | Clord | ^^ |
| 13:22.44 | Clord | I mean yeah |
| 13:22.47 | Clord | I putted it any |
| 13:22.51 | Clord | and it started to work |
| 13:22.51 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 13:23.00 | Clord | but I wonder why there is that useless "for whatever player" part |
| 13:23.19 | Helral|Work | cause you can create dialogs dependent on player. |
| 13:23.42 | Helral|Work | I want the evil players to have dialog item X and the good players to have dialog item Y. |
| 13:23.55 | Helral|Work | I don't want additional event triggering for the players ;p |
| 13:24.17 | Helral|Work | so limit the events to the good players for Y, and to the evil players for X ;p |
| 13:24.40 | Clord | it is beautiful.... left list gonna be so that when player clicks unit it is added to right list aka deck.... ^^ but if player clicks right list... it is removed and added bcak to left list... XD |
| 13:24.53 | Clord | back... |
| 13:24.56 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 13:25.59 | Clord | I have five decks what people can use in THE Card Game but yeah.. deck builder does not hurt as final unlock |
| 13:26.00 | Clord | ^^ |
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| 13:35.51 | Clord | bah I need to do it supid way |
| 13:35.59 | Helral|Work | really? |
| 13:36.05 | Clord | I can't just add and remove units at will ^^ |
| 13:36.07 | Clord | so |
| 13:36.11 | Clord | left box add to right box |
| 13:36.16 | Clord | and then clear button for right box |
| 13:36.17 | Clord | lol |
| 13:36.36 | Helral|Work | ow you can remove stuff from a list? |
| 13:36.56 | Clord | well... idea is that if you mess up while building your deck |
| 13:36.59 | Clord | you can click to clear it |
| 13:36.59 | Clord | XD |
| 13:37.06 | Clord | oh yes... ^^ |
| 13:37.10 | Clord | that is easy btw |
| 13:37.26 | Helral|Work | I meant to say you can't ;p the 't was missing. |
| 13:37.27 | Helral|Work | lol |
| 13:38.05 | Clord | hehe |
| 13:43.23 | Helral|Work | meows |
| 13:44.35 | Clord | this is pain in the ass |
| 13:45.19 | Helral|Work | you'd better not sit down then. |
| 13:47.06 | Clord | lol |
| 13:48.04 | Helral|Work | ;p |
| 13:48.19 | Clord | it actually somewhat works lol |
| 13:48.39 | Helral|Work | hmmm was it here that 3 or 4 people were expecting to be parent? ;p |
| 13:50.38 | Clord | yay it works... left list adds units and when I click right list.. it clears it entirely |
| 13:50.39 | Clord | ^^ |
| 13:51.52 | Clord | and now skip remaiming actions so it only removes that what I want |
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| 13:53.35 | Clord | next step....... making button what causes deck to be accepted |
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| 13:58.05 | ducky_ | hello! |
| 13:58.49 | ducky_ | anyone knows how to remove "not enough charges" error from showing up when i try to cas ability without charges? |
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| 14:06.24 | Agouti | ducky_: wild guess, but set the ability as not costing charges? |
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| 14:08.58 | Helral|Work | lol Sixen was on the unstable IRC server ;p |
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| 14:09.17 | Helral|Work | meow |
| 14:09.24 | Helral|Work | Sixen: you alive? |
| 14:09.45 | Helral|Work | hmmmm |
| 14:10.06 | Clord | excellent... my testing deck builder works ^^ |
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| 14:10.18 | Clord | my only common cards I got was marines as supposed to |
| 14:10.28 | Helral|Work | the production one will be a massive failure but his test version works :P |
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| 14:11.33 | Clord | lol.... |
| 14:11.38 | Clord | it will work right once released |
| 14:11.51 | Helral|Work | ahhh |
| 14:11.54 | Helral|Work | it will work once... |
| 14:11.56 | Clord | different thing is how to make it so that people not make broken decks what rule all other decks |
| 14:11.57 | Clord | ^^ |
| 14:11.58 | Helral|Work | then it fails. |
| 14:12.01 | Agouti | so much stuff is hard to test without releasing |
| 14:12.23 | Helral|Work | limit the number of rare and unique cards they can use. |
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| 14:13.28 | Clord | yeah it was idea to go like random deck currently works.... 15 common, 7 uncommon and 3 epics ^^ |
| 14:13.46 | Helral|Work | ;p |
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| 14:14.56 | Helral|Work | lol @ Skizot ;p |
| 14:15.13 | Helral|Work | connecting from 2 pc's? or twice from the same one :P |
| 14:16.12 | Agouti | god this is so frustrating |
| 14:16.22 | Agouti | why should a mover break actor animations |
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| 14:26.24 | Agouti | o hai s1dd |
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| 14:26.37 | Clord | lol this is so abusable... pick common void ray, uncommon shields and epic elite training to deck |
| 14:32.42 | ThunderLord | Is it possible to force a player to enable the grid style hotkeys over the regular button keys? |
| 14:32.43 | Agouti | why would you want to do that |
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| 14:32.44 | ThunderLord | Cuz I'm awesome! |
| 14:32.44 | ThunderLord | Making an action bar type thing. Now that I can move my bars with custom ui |
| 14:32.45 | ThunderLord | Want differant abilitys to go on spots on a command card not o depend on the skill but depend on their position on the bar |
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| 14:32.45 | Agouti | you could define your own buttons for Move, Attack etc |
| 14:32.45 | ThunderLord | So no I cannot force grid? |
| 14:32.46 | Agouti | Agouti> you could define your own buttons for Move, Attack etc |
| 14:33.03 | Agouti | To put that more clearly, Yes, You Can, but you will need to make all the buttons to suit |
| 14:33.28 | Agouti | still seems like a silly thing to do, to me. |
| 14:33.50 | ThunderLord | Yeah but the buttons are customizeable. The player chooses where he wants his move, attack, fireball, psi storm, whatever abilitys are on the card |
| 14:33.56 | Cheekything | any reason why buttons that use the blink ability ae tinted? |
| 14:33.56 | Cheekything | are& |
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| 14:38.26 | JManV|Work | hmmm |
| 14:39.21 | Agouti | don't you hmm me |
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| 14:39.27 | Agouti | I've got enough hmmm's of my own |
| 14:39.32 | JManV|Work | it's already been broughten |
| 14:40.18 | JManV|Work | i was hmm'ing because the other me died |
| 14:40.46 | JManV|Work | ... and you can't stop me! |
| 14:43.12 | CreationAKARyan | anyone willing to help me test real fast on US? |
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| 14:49.04 | JManV|Work | what's with the nick? |
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| 14:52.11 | Sumo- | how can i stop a unit from attacking me with a behavior, data only? |
| 14:52.26 | Sumo- | suppress combat and suppress attack seem to not do anything? |
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| 15:16.07 | CreationAKARyan | ummmmm guys... |
| 15:16.38 | CreationAKARyan | my video jumped up 20,000 views in the last 12 hours and there are lawyers on my forums preaching copywright law |
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| 15:45.54 | HP-X|Arthas | anyone good with linux here? |
| 15:46.06 | HP-X|Arthas | or rather, debian |
| 15:46.06 | HP-X|Arthas | :p |
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| 15:55.29 | Helral|Work | ask again when I get home HP-X|Arthas |
| 15:55.30 | Helral|Work | :P |
| 15:55.42 | Helral|Work | hmmm maybe I can quickly answer... |
| 15:55.46 | Helral|Work | what is it? |
| 15:56.35 | Helral|Work | ok I'm off towards home ;p |
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| 16:52.38 | Helral | where did everyone go? |
| 16:53.04 | Helral | earlier the amount of ppl in this IRC was more then my list would show at once... now I can see them all :) |
| 16:53.15 | Helral | there's nowhere to hide muhahahahaha |
| 16:53.21 | Helral | btw HP-X|Arthas you had a question? |
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| 16:55.20 | Tordy | hello |
| 16:57.41 | Clord | hi XD |
| 16:58.02 | Clord | hehe.. my deck builder otherwise works expect I made mistake somewhere when designing uncommon picking :) |
| 16:58.49 | Helral | :P |
| 16:58.52 | Tordy | what's wrong |
| 17:00.37 | Clord | 2 -> 3 and voila |
| 17:00.39 | Clord | fixed! |
| 17:00.40 | Clord | ^^ |
| 17:01.27 | Clord | it took uncommon cards from wrong list lol |
| 17:01.35 | Clord | it caused blank uncommon cards |
| 17:01.38 | Clord | now fixed :) |
| 17:02.29 | Clord | you can design deck but enemy is free to attack you meantime |
| 17:02.30 | Clord | lol |
| 17:04.22 | Clord | which reminds me... I add deck to bank file |
| 17:05.38 | Helral | hmmm I can publish just over 1.5MB :( |
| 17:05.57 | Helral | that's half my mapsize. |
| 17:08.16 | Clord | I just realized.... I can be lazy when I do bank file saving |
| 17:08.17 | Clord | lol |
| 17:08.24 | Clord | it just remembers how deck was last time |
| 17:13.19 | Lilianna | Helral, well the only way I could figure to hide the Armor icon and Health is to make my unit invulnerable and use an Alpha texture for the armor icon |
| 17:13.32 | Lilianna | But invulnerable should be fun for what Im doing |
| 17:14.42 | Lilianna | fun=fine |
| 17:22.18 | Helral | Lilianna: mind sending me the UI files on sc2mapster? I wanna see if I get the same problem. |
| 17:25.43 | Lilianna | It was the ones I downloaded from your post exactly |
| 17:25.59 | Lilianna | I just added a Visible flag on the Wireframe in the info pane |
| 17:26.06 | Lilianna | InfoPanel |
| 17:26.55 | Lilianna | You would think setting the Visible flag on the Labels would remove the texts, but it didnt |
| 17:32.43 | Helral | well those from my file remove everything for me .... so I'm really curious why it isn't that case for you. |
| 17:34.52 | Helral | lol and now it doesn't hide everything |
| 17:35.11 | Lilianna | :) |
| 17:35.35 | Helral | or is there 1 line missing... |
| 17:36.15 | Helral | hmmm |
| 17:39.08 | HP-X|Arthas | Helral: |
| 17:39.10 | HP-X|Arthas | home? |
| 17:39.12 | HP-X|Arthas | pm |
| 17:39.15 | Helral | meow |
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| 17:45.12 | Clord | ELite Training card no longer stack it's effect to same unit |
| 17:45.14 | Clord | lol |
| 17:45.19 | Clord | sake of balance |
| 17:51.09 | Helral | Lilianna: I moved the entiye unit pane outside the screen ;p |
| 17:51.20 | Helral | Lilianna: that works to hide it. |
| 17:51.30 | Lilianna | Hehe yes I suppose that would |
| 17:51.48 | Helral | I could have prolly suggested that sooner ;p |
| 17:51.54 | Lilianna | My attacks are 1 shot kill things though, so its okay the way it is right now :) |
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| 18:08.15 | Tordy | sooo |
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| 18:34.41 | JManV|Work | those newegg ads are killing me |
| 18:34.53 | JManV|Work | they keep showing me all the things i've looked at recently |
| 18:35.11 | JManV|Work | ofc i want them... but i can't afford them |
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| 19:34.22 | Silv_ | anyone here know how to change lighting tileset on a map? |
| 19:34.29 | Silv_ | so u see the lighting in the editor |
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| 20:05.51 | casperb | Ello |
| 20:08.59 | Helral | ola |
| 20:11.40 | casperb | ~last Acemore |
| 20:11.49 | casperb | ~seen Acemore |
| 20:12.01 | purl | acemore <~lol@128.84-49-196.nextgentel.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 42d 3h 3m 3s ago, saying: 'mapster news up!'. |
| 20:12.15 | casperb | ~seen Cromalic |
| 20:12.15 | purl | cromalic <~lol@148.84-49-196.nextgentel.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 189d 22h 17m 25s ago, saying: 'anyone experienced with uploading youtube vids?'. |
| 20:12.23 | casperb | o.o |
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| 20:24.53 | EternalWraith | ss |
| 20:36.10 | Dekar | ~helral |
| 20:36.10 | purl | i heard helral is an evil ethereal random kitten who must not be let near laser pens. |
| 20:36.16 | Dekar | ooh, it changed :o |
| 20:36.41 | Dekar | ~bibendus |
| 20:36.41 | purl | [bibendus] a man of many legs. |
| 20:36.55 | Dekar | ~vjeux |
| 20:37.05 | Dekar | ~xaragoth |
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| 21:07.43 | Helral | ~Dekar |
| 21:07.45 | Helral | what changed? |
| 21:07.53 | Dekar | purls description |
| 21:07.59 | Helral | of who ;p |
| 21:08.00 | Dekar | of you |
| 21:08.03 | Dekar | geez |
| 21:08.06 | Helral | no it didn't. |
| 21:08.12 | Helral | it has been that for quite a while. |
| 21:08.12 | Dekar | yeah it did |
| 21:08.20 | Dekar | but its a long time since i checked |
| 21:08.24 | Helral | hahahaha |
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| 21:40.13 | Obatztrara | Quick Question: Can you now exceed 10,5 mb map size with mod files in bnet? |
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| 21:41.59 | Skiz0t | holy crap . |
| 21:42.05 | Skiz0t | WoS on kotaku. |
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| 22:00.27 | Skizot | i am bored :( |
| 22:07.14 | Helral | me three |
| 22:07.25 | Helral | well not really |
| 22:07.31 | Helral | just wanted to say it ;p |
| 22:07.56 | Skizot | i can't think of anything to make :( |
| 22:08.17 | Jum-Jum | I was going to make a cinematic |
| 22:08.23 | Jum-Jum | I made one scene which was like 10 seconds |
| 22:08.26 | Jum-Jum | and said "ah screw it" :| |
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| 22:09.11 | Skiz0t | ASRGHAAGH |
| 22:09.37 | Jum-Jum | Connection acting up? |
| 22:09.47 | Skiz0t | yes |
| 22:10.01 | Jum-Jum | every nerds nightmare |
| 22:10.02 | Jum-Jum | atleast mine |
| 22:10.20 | Jum-Jum | internet not working for me = go watch series until its up again. :D |
| 22:11.50 | Skiz0t | speaking of which, i need to download a fews seasons of dexter |
| 22:15.43 | Jum-Jum | I found Supernatural to be entertaining |
| 22:16.54 | Skizot | bwahaha |
| 22:17.13 | A1win | I got bored when the angels and demons stepped in ;p |
| 22:17.30 | A1win | though I kept watching anyway... until some point |
| 22:18.05 | Skizot | my map crashes sc2.. awesome! |
| 22:18.22 | Helral | lol what you do? |
| 22:18.23 | A1win | dexter is top 4 with House, Castle and Boardwalk Empire for me |
| 22:18.26 | Helral | change SC2Layout files? |
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| 22:19.14 | risingfate | hi |
| 22:19.17 | Skizot | whenever i mouseover a enemy unit. |
| 22:19.19 | Skizot | BLAM crash |
| 22:20.23 | risingfate | can someone help me learn the sc2 editor |
| 22:21.46 | Skizot | it's setting the units highlight curor... wtf. |
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| 22:41.21 | Skizot | holy crap this map has issues :( |
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| 22:42.13 | Skizot | and then sixen shat on a turtle! |
| 22:42.53 | Sixen | yarly |
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| 22:59.13 | JManV | omg |
| 22:59.25 | JManV | this version of windows server 2008 came with theme packs |
| 22:59.33 | JManV | wtf do i need theme packs for windows server? |
| 22:59.44 | JManV | they're hideous and i can't seem to remove them |
| 23:01.36 | JManV | man this is pissing me off |
| 23:01.44 | JManV | i really don't want to have to download another version |
| 23:02.52 | risingfate | looking for help learning how to make custom maps |
| 23:03.02 | JManV | sc2mapster.com |
| 23:03.14 | JManV | that's far to vague of a question |
| 23:03.45 | risingfate | i am looking for help using trigers and making custom units |
| 23:06.15 | risingfate | i want to make a unit shot every time i hold the left mose buton |
| 23:06.35 | JManV | there are tutorials for that on sc2mapster |
| 23:06.51 | risingfate | did not see any |
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| 23:10.09 | risingfate | can u link me to where i can find the infoe i am looking |
| 23:11.00 | ThunderLord | hey helral, could you tell me briefly how i can hide the actual interface thing? like the terran protoss tech stuf or the zerg goop that goes around all the frames using the new custom frames thingy? |
| 23:11.06 | JManV | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/10948-data-simple-one-shot-linear-attacks/ |
| 23:11.23 | ThunderLord | where in the text file |
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| 23:17.42 | ZarafFaraz | I'm having a weird problem with SC2.....whenever the game tries to go to the main menu login screen, it crashes. I can run a map via the editor and test it, but if I quit to the main menu, it crashes. Anyone else had something like this? |
| 23:20.08 | ZarafFaraz | ~seen Triceron |
| 23:20.12 | purl | triceron <60313557@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.49.53.87> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 19h 8m 44s ago, saying: 'Hey Skiz'. |
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| 23:23.46 | xapti | damn freenode webchat... crashes after only 20 hours |
| 23:24.50 | xapti | so does anyone know if minimap can be rotated in 1.2? |
| 23:26.05 | JManV | you can rotate the minimap with the camera |
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| 23:31.06 | Skizot | why do you need triceron ZarafFaraz? |
| 23:31.19 | eldragon0 | ello ppl and ppets |
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| 23:35.33 | Skizot | who wants to be test puppets?! |
| 23:35.38 | Skizot | i mean test my map |
| 23:36.19 | eldragon0 | oh oh meme |
| 23:36.26 | eldragon0 | just no hands up my ass ... sorry |
| 23:38.35 | ThunderLord | JManV if you figure out that camera rotating with minimap thing you let me know alright? |
| 23:39.00 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 23:39.12 | JManV | huh? |
| 23:39.12 | ThunderLord | im kinda attempting the same thing |
| 23:39.28 | JManV | when you apply a camera, you can choose to adjust the minimap |
| 23:39.34 | ThunderLord | oh you said you CAN |
| 23:39.36 | ThunderLord | oh |
| 23:39.37 | ThunderLord | nvm |
| 23:39.41 | ThunderLord | yeah' |
| 23:39.46 | ThunderLord | i was thinking |
| 23:39.56 | ThunderLord | you could literally spin the minimap |
| 23:40.11 | JManV | not without spinning the camera, i don't believe |
| 23:40.14 | ThunderLord | like have north on the minimap be based on what direction ur player is facing |
| 23:40.14 | JManV | not sure tho |
| 23:40.21 | JManV | yeah |
| 23:40.24 | JManV | you can |
| 23:40.28 | ThunderLord | wtf? |
| 23:40.30 | ThunderLord | how? |
| 23:40.32 | JManV | apply a new camera |
| 23:40.36 | ThunderLord | i thought it just resizes it |
| 23:40.38 | JManV | and adjust the minimap when you do so |
| 23:40.48 | JManV | it should reorient it too |
| 23:40.55 | ThunderLord | WHAT?! |
| 23:41.03 | ThunderLord | "goes to look at his map" |
| 23:44.19 | eldragon0 | can somone help me out with a prety basic trigger here... thats screwing with me? |
| 23:47.32 | eldragon0 | nice active chat XD |
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| 23:51.26 | eldragon0 | sup |
| 23:53.39 | Skizot | what's wrong with your trigger.. |
| 23:54.12 | eldragon0 | well |
| 23:54.21 | eldragon0 | iv set out to make a triggers only sunk D |
| 23:54.28 | eldragon0 | so far its going great |
| 23:54.53 | eldragon0 | but one issue, with the money system |
| 23:55.46 | Skizot | ok? |
| 23:55.59 | eldragon0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.23 | eldragon0 | that would co-relate thoes units to p1 wave spawn ... in turn i do this for cash |
| 23:56.32 | eldragon0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.39 | eldragon0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:56.55 | Skizot | why not just make a unit dies |
| 23:56.59 | Skizot | unit type = scv |
| 23:57.09 | eldragon0 | cas im a nub :P |
| 23:57.24 | eldragon0 | and that makes it so i dont have to write the code for each individual wave |
| 23:57.34 | eldragon0 | or put an or line for each diffrent unit |
| 23:57.42 | eldragon0 | but the issue is... |
| 23:57.57 | eldragon0 | that it adds 1 mineral to all players instead of just the one killing the unit |
| 23:58.09 | Skizot | OH. |
| 23:58.13 | Skizot | still an easy fix. |
| 23:58.18 | Skizot | Player - Modify player 1 Minerals: Add 1 |
| 23:58.42 | eldragon0 | ? |
| 23:58.57 | Skizot | change player 1 to player (playergroup((owner of killing unit))) |
| 23:59.14 | eldragon0 | hmmm touche |