| 00:00.12 | Clord | jello |
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| 00:04.12 | Ousnius | hey |
| 00:04.46 | Ousnius | when I set the facing angle of an unit over 0.0 sec |
| 00:04.54 | Ousnius | it looks kinda messy |
| 00:05.17 | Ousnius | with "over 0.2 sec" it would be okay, bu then I couldn't let the unit move while facing |
| 00:05.20 | Ousnius | but* |
| 00:05.31 | Ousnius | any way to smooth up facing while moving? |
| 00:28.01 | Hati | if it is possible try turrets |
| 00:28.06 | Hati | will smoth facing |
| 00:28.09 | Hati | +o |
| 00:29.02 | Hati | Xaragoth: found a programm what does what i want; OneNote (office ofc ...) |
| 00:29.13 | Xaragoth | oh, yeah |
| 00:29.14 | Xaragoth | that one |
| 00:29.39 | pirate | what kind of actor modification (attaching models/etc) an I do to a zealot that says "dont fuck with me cuz ill one shot you?" |
| 00:30.14 | pirate | i cant think of a good visual indicator for my damage powerup :/ |
| 00:31.01 | Xaragoth | giant balls of fire? |
| 00:31.25 | pirate | to the weapons? |
| 00:31.35 | Xaragoth | to the balls. |
| 00:31.51 | pirate | zealots dont have balls? |
| 00:32.09 | Xaragoth | YOU CAN'T PROVE THAT |
| 00:32.19 | pirate | : / |
| 00:32.44 | Xaragoth | we got female protoss |
| 00:32.51 | Xaragoth | so there must be balls of fire on male! |
| 00:32.52 | pirate | ? |
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| 00:39.49 | Tordy | now what |
| 00:56.34 | Ousnius | is any kind of "mouse moving direction" recognition possible? |
| 00:56.51 | Ousnius | I mean e.g. moving the mosue to the left makes a unit faces more to the left |
| 00:56.55 | Ousnius | without TPS cam |
| 00:57.09 | Ousnius | and without moving the cam i nany way |
| 00:57.13 | Ousnius | in* |
| 01:05.06 | pirate | Ousnius -- you can make a unit face the mouse |
| 01:05.19 | Ousnius | yes I know |
| 01:05.31 | Ousnius | I do already have that kind of control system |
| 01:05.36 | Ousnius | but my team mates wants a second one |
| 01:05.48 | Ousnius | I did already say him like 10 times that it wont work |
| 01:05.52 | Ousnius | but he wont beleive |
| 01:05.53 | Ousnius | XD |
| 01:06.17 | pirate | what you mean by a different one? |
| 01:06.39 | pirate | like, recreate the effect without using the new mouseposition event? |
| 01:06.59 | Ousnius | instead of facing the unit to the mouse pos |
| 01:07.18 | Ousnius | turn it to left and right when moving the mouse to the left or right |
| 01:07.40 | Ousnius | but there is no recognition for mouse left/right ... |
| 01:07.58 | Ousnius | like a TPS |
| 01:08.01 | Ousnius | but without the cam |
| 01:08.34 | pirate | well |
| 01:08.57 | pirate | you could periodically record the X,Y of the mouse |
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| 01:09.14 | pirate | and compare the current X to the previous X |
| 01:11.07 | Ousnius | that would mess up when playing in windowed mode |
| 01:11.22 | Ousnius | you would mvoe the mouse outta the window XD |
| 01:11.41 | Ousnius | and when hiding the mouse the mouse moved event doesnt fire |
| 01:12.12 | Ousnius | with hiding I mean activated relative cam mode |
| 01:12.25 | pirate | pfft, who plays in windowed mode? |
| 01:12.31 | Ousnius | <- |
| 01:12.32 | Ousnius | xd |
| 01:12.34 | Ousnius | xD |
| 01:12.50 | pirate | i test in windowed mode, but i think most people play bnet fullscreen |
| 01:13.06 | Ousnius | anyway |
| 01:13.21 | Ousnius | I don't want messy walkarounds >.< |
| 01:14.23 | Ousnius | means I'll have to say my mate e should forget about that control system... |
| 01:14.30 | Ousnius | he* |
| 01:14.33 | Ousnius | but he wont give up XDDD |
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| 03:12.30 | used | hello? |
| 03:12.49 | used | I was wondering if someone could answer a couple questions I had? |
| 03:13.41 | used | anyone? |
| 03:20.18 | Skizot | what questions? |
| 03:20.30 | Skizot | it's usually best to ask them and hope someone answers |
| 03:20.33 | Skizot | then ask to ask. |
| 03:24.45 | used | ok |
| 03:24.48 | used | thatnks |
| 03:24.52 | used | thanks |
| 03:25.09 | used | i was wondering first, what field needs to be changed to change the color of a unit |
| 03:25.23 | used | not the team color |
| 03:25.41 | used | but just the general color |
| 03:27.19 | used | I was also wondering how to attatch a spine crawler onto a unit, like the uberlisk. However, If its too complex thats fine. |
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| 03:59.37 | used | anyone? |
| 03:59.39 | used | lol |
| 04:14.44 | Skizot | okay for coloring |
| 04:14.46 | Hedus | well as for the attachment part i have seen a tutorial on that... ill see if i can find it |
| 04:14.47 | Skizot | use tint |
| 04:14.59 | Skizot | how to attach |
| 04:15.04 | Skizot | is done via actors. |
| 04:17.28 | Tordy | LAW |
| 04:18.16 | Hedus | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/4284-data-working-with-hosting-and-site-operations-the-uberlisk/ |
| 04:18.30 | Hedus | its lengthy btw but thats the uberlisk tutorial |
| 04:20.43 | used | ty |
| 04:21.11 | used | which field specifically is the one for colors? |
| 04:21.19 | used | i looked for like 30 minutes |
| 04:22.10 | Skizot | tint. |
| 04:22.17 | Skizot | in the actor creations. |
| 04:22.22 | Skizot | set a tint and the color you want. |
| 04:22.34 | Skizot | it won't do it for just one unit though |
| 04:22.40 | Skizot | if you want a SINGLE unit to be tinted, use a trigger. |
| 04:22.45 | Skizot | send actor message tint. |
| 04:35.46 | Dogmai | whats the current size of the bank file limit? |
| 04:42.42 | Vail | i hate girls with glasses !!!!!!!!! |
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| 05:26.35 | used | one last question |
| 05:26.49 | used | if I wanted to use one unit as the legs of another |
| 05:27.02 | used | is that easy? or really complicated? |
| 05:27.56 | Skizot | say what? |
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| 05:28.59 | used | an example is the rines with barracks for heads in SOTIS |
| 05:29.11 | used | i mean something like that |
| 05:30.56 | used | basically, im trying to use the burrowed infestor as a blob on legs |
| 05:30.59 | used | i raised it up |
| 05:31.29 | used | and i'm hoping to attach two spines to it, then use an infested terran as the legs |
| 05:31.46 | used | spines as in spine crawlers |
| 05:32.07 | used | im using the link to a tut that hedus sent me |
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| 05:56.25 | Dogmai | alright |
| 05:57.14 | Dogmai | do you think they disallow us to 1) not compare texts . 2) not get player's name as strings and 3) not get players character codes as integers - because it is open to mass abuse. |
| 05:57.23 | Dogmai | ugh |
| 05:57.42 | Dogmai | bad english but you get it |
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| 06:12.09 | Skizot | Sixen |
| 06:12.11 | Skizot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOuX6rwMb6U |
| 06:12.18 | Skizot | news dat if you want. |
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| 06:40.16 | Skizot | woo |
| 06:40.26 | Skizot | guess who's testing the new version of the model tools! |
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| 06:49.38 | Skizot | :/ |
| 06:49.56 | RazielZ | :\ |
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| 07:27.05 | Hedus | If im using an Effect-Target ability, how do i also use an effect on the caster of the ability? |
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| 07:34.14 | ghoohg | does anyone know the maker of merchants rpg? |
| 07:38.35 | Lilianna | Hedus, quite simply just have one of the effects in your set of effects have its target be caster, instead of target |
| 07:39.00 | Hedus | Yeah i thought it was that simple. I seem to have problems in something else then. Thanks |
| 07:39.52 | Skizot | bwahahahahaha |
| 07:39.57 | Skizot | this is gonne be AWESOME. |
| 07:40.13 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/jetflames.png |
| 07:40.20 | Skizot | yay custom particles! |
| 07:41.01 | Lilianna | Ooh now have particles in M3 exporter? :D |
| 07:41.11 | Lilianna | Skizot, you made it a blow torch :o |
| 07:41.15 | Skizot | :D |
| 07:41.22 | Lilianna | thats not gonna kill any zerglings |
| 07:41.27 | Lilianna | unless they jump on the windshield |
| 07:41.41 | Skizot | workign with nintoxicated as we speak |
| 07:42.57 | Skizot | oh man |
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| 07:43.09 | Skizot | i'm gonna HAVE to add engine to the valkyrie. |
| 07:43.30 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/jetflames2.png |
| 07:43.32 | Skizot | XD |
| 07:43.36 | Xapti | So what's 1.2 added with regards to GUI? |
| 07:43.46 | Xapti | can you rotate the mini-map? |
| 07:44.53 | Lilianna | You can make XML Ui panels |
| 07:45.05 | Lilianna | Instead of only dialogue based stuff |
| 07:45.43 | Xapti | what's different about XML UI panels |
| 07:46.04 | Lilianna | They dont require triggers |
| 07:46.14 | Lilianna | and you can use default hotkeys on them I believe |
| 07:46.46 | Lilianna | I dunno |
| 07:46.53 | Lilianna | I only do Data |
| 07:47.21 | Xapti | anyone know if it's possible to assign 2 hotkeys to a button? |
| 07:48.32 | Lilianna | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/17193-sc2layout-files-how-to-adjust-them/ |
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| 07:51.59 | Lilianna | and I dont believe there is a way to have a button have two hotkeys |
| 07:52.40 | Xapti | I noticed with 1.2 in the hotkey cstomization, some actions (at least one) has two hotkeys |
| 07:53.08 | Lilianna | but Buttons are a data type |
| 07:53.13 | Lilianna | and they only allow one hotkey |
| 07:53.16 | Xapti | yeah it's different |
| 07:53.49 | Xapti | whatever, I just have a trigger make the unit execute the order if the player presses another key |
| 07:54.02 | Xapti | it just would be a small bit laged |
| 07:54.35 | Xapti | And the hotkey wouldn't be displayed prominently |
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| 08:37.03 | Skizot | who wants to see something sexy?! |
| 08:40.57 | Hedus | o.o |
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| 08:43.32 | casperb | hey hey |
| 08:45.20 | casperb | Anyone know what exactly the various weapon options do? i.e Only Fire At Attack Target, Only Fire While Attacking |
| 08:46.01 | RazielZ | only fire while attacking I think makes the weapon unable to fire while the unit is doing other things like moving or channeling or whatever |
| 08:46.25 | casperb | Wouldn't that be Allowed Movement tho? |
| 08:47.28 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/valks.png |
| 08:47.31 | Skizot | that's SEXY |
| 08:47.44 | casperb | Retro! |
| 08:47.48 | casperb | Texture needs some work but nice |
| 08:47.57 | Skizot | :| |
| 08:49.06 | Skizot | you apparently don't notice the truely awesome part. |
| 08:49.25 | casperb | nope :) |
| 08:49.43 | casperb | Feel free to enlighten me :p |
| 08:50.29 | Skizot | PARTICLES |
| 08:51.26 | casperb | ah thought it was alpha mapped planes :P |
| 08:52.47 | casperb | but on a closer look i see the glow ^^ |
| 08:54.32 | casperb | Still working off NiN's toolset or has blizzard released theirs now? |
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| 08:56.38 | Skizot | nins new beta |
| 08:56.47 | Skizot | so far only i and he have it :P |
| 08:57.30 | Skizot | woo |
| 08:57.34 | Skizot | and they animate! |
| 08:58.04 | Skizot | as in i can chage size scale etc via animations |
| 08:58.38 | casperb | nice :D |
| 08:58.49 | casperb | did he put in support for terrain painting? |
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| 09:05.54 | Skizot | terrain painting? |
| 09:06.49 | Tordy | hi there |
| 09:07.17 | Lybbarde | how did you guys ever get past the initial nightmares of making maps? |
| 09:07.27 | Lybbarde | i'm still going on the same problem for 11h straight without eating |
| 09:12.01 | Skizot | compiling a video of the valk particles now. |
| 09:28.52 | casperb | Skizot: null materials, what cliffs and other terrain objects use |
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| 09:48.18 | Skizot | ahh |
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| 10:37.20 | Skizot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c588gu15Nk |
| 10:40.25 | Skizot | :D |
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| 10:42.51 | Skizot | you guys suck. |
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| 10:46.28 | Skizot | casperb |
| 10:46.30 | Skizot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c588gu15Nk |
| 10:46.46 | casperb | Nerdgasm |
| 10:47.46 | Skizot | i put alot of work into those little engines :( |
| 10:49.33 | casperb | Quick Data issue, have a sequence of effects, create unit and issue order, but how to issue order targeting the newly created unit? |
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| 11:50.45 | Cheekything | Ok this will be a fun one, I have a hero who i want to only be able to do different damages to certain unit types (structure, heroic, massive etc) however I also want his STR to increase his damage but keeping the amount ratios rather than increasing them |
| 11:51.12 | Cheekything | however in behaviour it only lets you up damage not types of damage |
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| 12:15.04 | Tordy | hello |
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| 12:23.54 | casperb | Cheekything: damage effect allows you to setup bonuses |
| 12:24.09 | casperb | Cheekything: so the unit's weapon damage effect would change it |
| 12:24.38 | Lybbarde | hi all. any of you can give me a hand with some questions? |
| 12:24.52 | Cheekything | Ah I fixed it by just giving the unit 2 attacks |
| 12:24.55 | casperb | Cheekything: and since STR is a non existant concept, you fully contorl that |
| 12:25.01 | casperb | control* |
| 12:25.10 | casperb | Lybbarde: shoot |
| 12:25.16 | Cheekything | and making the flags on weapon only target set targets |
| 12:25.33 | casperb | nah under the damage effect |
| 12:25.42 | Lybbarde | well i have an upgrade i built that i want to change a variable in the data area |
| 12:25.57 | Lybbarde | but the ability i want to change it for doesn't list any "fields" to add to |
| 12:26.15 | Lybbarde | are there some fields that can't be easily changed? |
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| 12:26.22 | Lybbarde | or does it mean i'm looking in the wrong spot |
| 12:26.27 | Cheekything | as in spell ability? |
| 12:26.38 | Lybbarde | ability is "queue" |
| 12:26.43 | kaseano | hi :) quick Q, does "triggering player" transfer to functions fired from the parent trigger? |
| 12:26.59 | casperb | kaseano: nope, no such concept as a parent trigger |
| 12:27.04 | Cheekything | triggering player is used when a player causes the trigger to fire |
| 12:27.14 | Cheekything | like player types message |
| 12:27.25 | kaseano | oh so If I "run trigger" from a trigger, it won't transfer to that ran trigger |
| 12:27.52 | kaseano | is there a way to transfer variables between functions? |
| 12:27.57 | Cheekything | if you run a trigger it wont check the events |
| 12:27.59 | kaseano | I guess I could use a global variable |
| 12:28.03 | kaseano | oh |
| 12:28.05 | casperb | eh use parameters |
| 12:28.25 | casperb | trigger is an event callback, and should only be used as such |
| 12:28.42 | Cheekything | Lybbarde what do you want to change about the queue? |
| 12:28.42 | kaseano | not really sure how to use parameters, I'll try and figure it out |
| 12:28.56 | casperb | kaseano: a function has parameters, programming 101 :p |
| 12:29.13 | casperb | or can have, rather |
| 12:29.14 | kaseano | ya haven't had to do it w sc2 yet tho |
| 12:29.24 | Cheekything | kaseano: what are you trying to achieve exactly? |
| 12:29.29 | Lybbarde | CAbilQueue_QueueCount is an example of a stat in queue, that doesn't list itself as a possible field |
| 12:30.16 | kaseano | well I have a bunch of repetitive triggers, so I was going to move them into a function like you'd do w a normal programming language :) |
| 12:30.24 | kaseano | they all use "Triggering Player" tho |
| 12:30.52 | kaseano | I could use a triggering_player global variable bc it's al instant but that doesn't seem like the right way |
| 12:30.55 | Lybbarde | basically i want to have an upgrade that you research, then it changes to let you have twin queues and longer queue like in the campaign for scvs, or in the terran buildings with the reactor |
| 12:31.17 | Cheekything | ok |
| 12:31.53 | casperb | kaseano: prone to race conditions, since triggering player is global method which returns a thread local |
| 12:32.32 | casperb | kaseano: and using a global is even more prone to race conditions :p |
| 12:32.44 | kaseano | oh |
| 12:32.49 | casperb | just refactor it into functions, clean and sexy |
| 12:33.07 | casperb | can just copy paste from the trigger |
| 12:33.28 | casperb | goey power |
| 12:34.01 | kaseano | ya I'm having a tough time w this gui lol |
| 12:34.32 | casperb | faster to write code but heck you want watch a movie and program with one hand :D |
| 12:34.54 | casperb | (which explains blizzard release schedules :D) |
| 12:34.59 | Lybbarde | it takes the other hand to watch the movie? |
| 12:35.14 | casperb | gotta rest your head on it :p |
| 12:35.32 | casperb | hm i broke the editor again -_- |
| 12:35.41 | Lybbarde | yeah it crashes a lot hey |
| 12:35.56 | Lybbarde | so casper do you think my variable is changeable? |
| 12:36.01 | kaseano | haha |
| 12:36.03 | Lybbarde | i tried doing it in custom script |
| 12:36.08 | Lybbarde | and also in the data section |
| 12:36.20 | Lybbarde | but both have eluded me. |
| 12:36.23 | casperb | well not all data fields are writeable |
| 12:36.33 | Lybbarde | strange thing is |
| 12:36.37 | Lybbarde | i can edit it before i start the game |
| 12:36.38 | Cheekything | It's not very easy to find :/ |
| 12:36.46 | kaseano | casperb do you write your triggers out? The gui's nice for learning the functions/syntax |
| 12:36.46 | Lybbarde | but once the game is started, it's like the field isn't defined |
| 12:36.47 | Cheekything | I have a horrible feeling it's a trigger |
| 12:37.00 | Lybbarde | as soon as i name it in an "action" |
| 12:37.12 | Lybbarde | it just says no such thing- and gives syntax error |
| 12:37.21 | casperb | kaseano: algorithms, sometimes but as a custom script block |
| 12:37.35 | kaseano | oh that's smart |
| 12:38.06 | casperb | oh and constants |
| 12:38.15 | kaseano | I duno how the bank works yet I'm nervous I'll have to write my own script to encrypt the sessions |
| 12:38.29 | casperb | 1.2 added a sha hash |
| 12:38.33 | kaseano | wooooo |
| 12:38.56 | casperb | so you reject modified bakns |
| 12:38.58 | casperb | banks* |
| 12:39.06 | casperb | issue is that, people can just modify the map -_- |
| 12:39.52 | kaseano | I figured ppl on here could crack into maps but I was hoping the general public couldn't |
| 12:40.30 | casperb | true but the general public just google for a tutorial -_- |
| 12:40.57 | kaseano | it'd be nice if there was something to compress all the code too, to stop another 99% from wasting their time trying to figure it out |
| 12:41.42 | kaseano | organized triggers are actually making it easier for people to break into it, I'll have to disorganize everything lol |
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| 12:42.25 | Ousnius | hi |
| 12:42.35 | kaseano | OR something to convert it all into a script, then compress that script so it's hard to read |
| 12:46.24 | casperb | kaseano: it is all script regardless |
| 12:46.45 | casperb | and you can obfuscate it as you please |
| 12:48.26 | kaseano | well I mean making it difficult to read from the editor |
| 12:48.58 | kaseano | I'm surprised there aren't apps like there were in wc3 that removed pieces from the map used by the editor to make it unopenable |
| 12:49.18 | casperb | kaseano: well obfuscated triggers won't be easy to read from the editor |
| 12:49.29 | kaseano | I guess that's my solution :) |
| 12:49.51 | casperb | but blizzard will eventually up the protection |
| 12:50.03 | casperb | they have to if they are to provide commercial maps |
| 12:50.26 | kaseano | that makes sense |
| 12:51.12 | kaseano | I could spend all day writing triggers to verify other triggers, excluding new ones, but at the end of the day it still wouldn't be 100% |
| 12:57.30 | kaseano | casperb "Run Trigger" Only has the trigger name, conditions, and wait, is there a way to send in params? |
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| 12:57.41 | casperb | nope |
| 12:57.50 | casperb | like i said, triggers are callbacks |
| 12:58.08 | casperb | if you need a function, use a function |
| 12:59.35 | kaseano | oh functions are different from triggers i didnt know that |
| 12:59.59 | kaseano | oh awesome |
| 13:00.44 | casperb | trigger is an event callback |
| 13:01.20 | casperb | a delegate, sort-of |
| 13:01.31 | casperb | just a much cruder implementation |
| 13:01.42 | casperb | actually it's more like a function pointer |
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| 13:03.07 | kaseano | yeah wow I like these functions a lot more |
| 13:04.23 | kaseano | can you run functions from triggers? havn't a tough time finding that 1 |
| 13:04.37 | kaseano | I guess I could do a custom script |
| 13:04.38 | casperb | you call functions all the time |
| 13:04.57 | casperb | GUI calls void functions for actions tho, just FYI |
| 13:05.52 | kaseano | oh |
| 13:10.45 | Cheekything | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/tutorials/4705-data-revive-heroes/ just wondering has anyone got this to work? |
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| 13:15.24 | Cheekything | nvm >.< I just realised that i fail so hard, I had a trigger disabling the build unit |
| 13:22.20 | kaseano | any1 know how to run a function from a trigger |
| 13:27.33 | A1win | kaseano, does the function return some value you will use? |
| 13:27.35 | Bibendus | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 13:27.39 | A1win | if not, it should be an action, not a function |
| 13:27.42 | kaseano | no I just needed to send params |
| 13:27.55 | kaseano | oh set a variable with the function? |
| 13:28.03 | A1win | uh? |
| 13:28.29 | A1win | it should not be a function definition to begin with, but an action definition (you can change it in its options) |
| 13:28.56 | A1win | you are talking about a custom function? |
| 13:30.19 | A1win | apparently |
| 13:30.26 | kaseano | oh change it to function |
| 13:30.31 | A1win | so yeah, make a new Action Definition, not a function definition |
| 13:30.41 | kaseano | well it's just a trigger that I wanted to send params in so I didn't need a global variable |
| 13:30.50 | kaseano | ok |
| 13:30.54 | kaseano | I'll try that thx A1win |
| 13:31.45 | kaseano | oh awesome it worked! |
| 13:32.35 | A1win | action is just a function that doesn't return a value |
| 13:32.55 | kaseano | yeah I had no idea you could set more actions that's excellent |
| 13:32.57 | A1win | and it can be set to run in a thread |
| 13:33.06 | A1win | if needed |
| 13:33.11 | kaseano | ok cool |
| 13:33.18 | A1win | but otherwise they're the same |
| 13:34.21 | A1win | (afaik) |
| 13:38.02 | kaseano | ok |
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| 14:02.06 | Tordy | plod |
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| 14:11.17 | Tordy | why did blizz add a massive void ray vulnerability behavior? |
| 14:11.35 | Tordy | instead of just changing the effect to deal 0.2 factor vs massive? |
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| 14:18.49 | Sumo- | is there a way to find out what bones a model has |
| 14:18.56 | Sumo- | like the points u can attach shit to |
| 14:18.57 | Tordy | why did blizz add a massive void ray vulnerability behavior? |
| 14:18.59 | Tordy | instead of just changing the effect to deal 0.2 factor vs massive? |
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| 14:43.08 | Deaod | dont Void Rays already have another factor for Armored or something? |
| 14:51.17 | Tordy | =o |
| 14:51.18 | Tordy | :] |
| 14:51.34 | Tordy | damni should really remove liberty_multi dependency from my map |
| 14:51.37 | Tordy | i removed it |
| 14:51.41 | Tordy | and it loads so much quicker |
| 14:51.48 | Tordy | not to mention it doesnt stutter when at the start of the map |
| 14:52.04 | Tordy | and of course gets rid of most things blizzard will break in data editor |
| 14:52.22 | Tordy | only problem is |
| 14:52.22 | Sumo- | brb |
| 14:52.43 | Tordy | i gotta change back a lot of data |
| 14:53.03 | Tordy | since my map relied some data on liberty multi for gameplay balance |
| 14:53.08 | Tordy | not sure which yet |
| 14:53.21 | Tordy | so i gotta check back at all the patch notes post 1.0 |
| 14:53.31 | Tordy | ex: colossus weapon speed |
| 14:53.42 | Tordy | phoenix weapon move to moving |
| 14:53.43 | Tordy | etc |
| 14:54.53 | Cheekything | do the multi dependancies have and mods in them? |
| 14:55.37 | Tordy | wht |
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| 14:55.58 | Cheekything | model files* |
| 14:56.00 | Cheekything | sorry >.< |
| 14:56.07 | Tordy | dont think so |
| 14:56.10 | Tordy | hope not |
| 14:56.38 | Tordy | when you remove the dependency, it tells you which references you used in the map that were of liberty.multi |
| 14:56.52 | Cheekything | oh cool |
| 14:56.52 | Aumo^ | can u cancel? |
| 14:57.02 | Cheekything | i think you can re add it |
| 14:57.03 | Tordy | all the references weren't anything involved in gameplay so i could remove the depency safely |
| 14:57.10 | Tordy | just keep a backup just in case |
| 14:57.38 | Tordy | it doesnt actually remove the dependency until you remove all references |
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| 14:59.10 | Cheekything | sounds good to me |
| 14:59.41 | Cheekything | Well that took me all of 10 minutes, I now have 2 mods full of WC3 icons... |
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| 15:00.43 | Tordy | NO |
| 15:00.45 | Tordy | SHIT |
| 15:00.54 | Cheekything | ? |
| 15:01.05 | Tordy | i gotta look at the beta patches too |
| 15:01.07 | Tordy | D: |
| 15:01.12 | Tordy | soooo many patches to look at |
| 15:07.40 | Tordy | >:) |
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| 15:10.25 | Tordy | monday night is |
| 15:10.26 | Tordy | GAY NIGHT |
| 15:12.21 | Sumo- | hey guys, i have my unit, it has some attachment point thats not sc2, its like Ref_Head (e_attachHead), Bone 104 |
| 15:12.30 | Sumo- | how do i use that in my attack actor? |
| 15:12.48 | Sumo- | i can set a launch site op, to a siteop, how do i setup the siteop? |
| 15:19.01 | casperb | Meh am getting SC to do a stack overflow, from a very simple data ability -_- |
| 15:23.08 | Sumo- | any help? |
| 15:23.42 | Tordy | ;3 |
| 15:24.11 | Tordy | THE TALDARIM |
| 15:27.29 | Tordy | so puire |
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| 15:32.38 | Sumo- | attachment, hardpoint, 104 :/ no luck |
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| 15:37.21 | Sumo- | fark just cant get it to work |
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| 15:44.46 | Tordy | read that as *fart |
| 15:44.56 | Sumo- | :P |
| 15:45.12 | Tordy | >:) |
| 15:45.16 | Tordy | br |
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| 16:02.34 | Sumo- | finally, dragon is good enough |
| 16:02.37 | Sumo- | settled on local offsets |
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| 16:31.06 | Sumo- | Skizot: u there? |
| 16:31.56 | SiNiquity | Sup sumo |
| 16:32.04 | Sumo- | hey SiNiquity |
| 16:32.30 | Sumo- | im chillin |
| 16:32.35 | Sumo- | eating a pizza |
| 16:32.39 | Sumo- | u |
| 16:33.06 | SiNiquity | nm nm, just poppin' in, messin' with the editor. |
| 16:33.41 | Sumo- | im thinking of making boss waves |
| 16:33.52 | Sumo- | thinking how best to design it |
| 16:34.27 | SiNiquity | mmm. defense map of some kind? |
| 16:34.36 | Sumo- | tower defense yup |
| 16:34.48 | Sumo- | its pretty cool right now |
| 16:35.12 | SiNiquity | rock on ~ love TDs. As long as it's not a mazing one :\ never did like those |
| 16:35.17 | Sumo- | its hybrid |
| 16:35.26 | SiNiquity | mmm interesting |
| 16:35.30 | Sumo- | :D |
| 16:35.40 | Sumo- | u wann try it? |
| 16:35.44 | SiNiquity | [I don't like mazing ones b/c I was always terrible at them] |
| 16:36.00 | SiNiquity | sure, lemmie get my mouse |
| 16:36.01 | SiNiquity | brb |
| 16:36.02 | Sumo- | ah yeah, im bad at mazing too, but thye are ok |
| 16:36.03 | Sumo- | lol |
| 16:36.06 | Sumo- | USA? |
| 16:36.46 | Sumo- | any other takers? |
| 16:42.08 | Sumo- | SiNiquity? |
| 16:42.40 | SiNiquity | sorry ya, usa |
| 16:42.51 | Sumo- | jump in sc2mapster chat |
| 16:43.09 | SiNiquity | aye aye |
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| 16:52.51 | Crypt_ | in game variants, what's the difference between team2[[1] and team2[2]? |
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| 17:18.11 | Silv_ | can anyone explain how u rotate the map? iknow how u copy it and paste it |
| 17:18.17 | Silv_ | but the rotating i havent figured out :P |
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| 17:27.53 | Sumo- | thnx for ur help |
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| 18:08.37 | SiNiquity | np np |
| 18:08.41 | SiNiquity | twas fun |
| 18:08.48 | Sumo- | :) im still going |
| 18:08.51 | Sumo- | round 86 |
| 18:08.55 | SiNiquity | lol nice |
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| 18:09.33 | kaseano_ | hi, I'm trying to figure out how to return an object with a function |
| 18:10.13 | Sumo- | do u think i should just releas eit soon |
| 18:10.16 | Sumo- | or keep improving |
| 18:10.29 | Sumo- | what sort of object kaseano_, custom or a blizz object |
| 18:10.40 | kaseano_ | sorry, a bliz object |
| 18:10.49 | kaseano_ | i have the return object (dialog item) set in the return for the function |
| 18:10.52 | Sumo- | set the return value to the object? |
| 18:11.01 | Sumo- | theres a return field |
| 18:11.01 | kaseano_ | and the trigger calling the function is set variable dialog_item = function |
| 18:11.20 | Sumo- | make sure the return field is set |
| 18:11.26 | kaseano_ | I have return type, not sure where return field is |
| 18:11.27 | Sumo- | and also make sure the trigger type is function |
| 18:11.34 | Sumo- | return type thats it |
| 18:11.36 | Sumo- | is it set |
| 18:12.02 | kaseano_ | well it's set to the type of object the function is returning, not sure how to Set that object (normally it would just be the last line of code) |
| 18:12.16 | Sumo- | just click it |
| 18:12.24 | Sumo- | and at the bottom, select the proper object type |
| 18:13.11 | kaseano_ | ah i dont understand :( |
| 18:13.42 | kaseano_ | the function knows what type of object it wants (dialog item), I can't figure out how to get the dialog Item I created in the function tho unless it's last created |
| 18:14.00 | Sumo- | na |
| 18:14.11 | Sumo- | whats your problem? |
| 18:14.26 | Sumo- | u said how to return |
| 18:14.34 | Sumo- | seems like ur problem might be more like, how to collect the result |
| 18:14.37 | kaseano_ | yeah, right now I'm pretty sure nothing's being returned |
| 18:14.40 | kaseano_ | yeah |
| 18:14.42 | kaseano_ | exactly |
| 18:14.50 | Sumo- | set variable |
| 18:14.53 | kaseano_ | like I tried set variable to see if "set return value" was there or something like that |
| 18:14.59 | SiNiquity | o |
| 18:15.02 | SiNiquity | General - Return |
| 18:15.02 | kaseano_ | hm maybe i didn't look close enough lol |
| 18:15.08 | kaseano_ | oh awesome I'll try that |
| 18:15.25 | Helral | meows |
| 18:15.29 | kaseano_ | ahhh there it is |
| 18:15.35 | kaseano_ | thanks a bunch Sumo- and SiNiquity |
| 18:15.41 | Sumo- | no prob heh |
| 18:16.04 | Sumo- | super aura tower, give me strength! |
| 18:16.20 | SiNiquity | lol, how many upgrades for towers are there? |
| 18:16.27 | SiNiquity | also can you upgrade aura towers ? :o |
| 18:16.32 | Sumo- | basic, normal, superior, super, ultra |
| 18:16.42 | Sumo- | its hell adding upgrades |
| 18:16.47 | Sumo- | but i added those 5 for every tower |
| 18:16.50 | Sumo- | except detector |
| 18:16.58 | SiNiquity | lol super detector :o |
| 18:17.13 | Sumo- | i actually wanted it like green td from war3 |
| 18:17.18 | SiNiquity | detects super invisible |
| 18:17.20 | SiNiquity | lol |
| 18:17.20 | Sumo- | with like a billion upgrades |
| 18:17.29 | Sumo- | but fuck man |
| 18:17.39 | Sumo- | im forced to make towers in data editor |
| 18:17.39 | SiNiquity | na ~ too many's boring cuz only a few are worthwhile |
| 18:17.49 | Sumo- | what i'll do is keep these 5 for each |
| 18:17.54 | Sumo- | and then have some finishing towers |
| 18:17.54 | SiNiquity | my fav TD was Burbenog |
| 18:17.56 | Sumo- | war3 style |
| 18:18.05 | Sumo- | like a earthquake tower |
| 18:18.09 | Sumo- | or force effect |
| 18:18.22 | Bibendus | is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes |
| 18:18.25 | Sumo- | woahhhhh |
| 18:18.29 | Sumo- | rory swann comes back to life?!?! |
| 18:18.34 | Sumo- | lol |
| 18:18.42 | Sumo- | this round cant end, noooooo |
| 18:18.49 | SiNiquity | lol |
| 18:19.04 | Sumo- | incapacitated behavior..jesus |
| 18:19.18 | Sumo- | not only thtat, he;s gone agro |
| 18:19.47 | Sumo- | thats a cool behavior tho, almost like resurrect |
| 18:19.50 | Sumo- | needs a limit tho.. |
| 18:20.16 | Sumo- | omg he popped my dragon 1shot |
| 18:21.53 | Sumo- | defeated :( |
| 18:26.02 | Helral | meows |
| 18:26.08 | Sumo- | :P |
| 18:26.22 | Sumo- | "hero death prevention" geez |
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| 18:43.51 | Crypt_ | in game variants, what's the difference between team2[[1] and team2[2]? |
| 18:44.10 | Sumo- | nfi |
| 18:44.26 | Sumo- | maybe its slot two on team 2 |
| 18:46.03 | slightlyrandom | Its spots on the team, yeah |
| 18:46.45 | Crypt_ | I see, the tutorial is wrong, then...it says to put everyone on team2[1] |
| 18:47.02 | Crypt_ | I keep getting 7v7 or 8v6 on my map that I'm trying to make 6v6...that might be it |
| 18:47.33 | Sumo- | well, the tutorial is probably right |
| 18:47.54 | Sumo- | seems less buggy to add everyone to the first slot |
| 18:48.05 | Sumo- | but thats not the correct behavior everyone wants i guess |
| 18:48.13 | Sumo- | to be fair, its stupid |
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| 18:58.52 | Crypt_ | deleted my variants and started over...seems to be working now |
| 18:59.21 | Crypt_ | i think it was because when i created my game variant, i had 14 players...and when i removed 2 players' control...it didn't reset the variant properly |
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| 19:16.35 | casperb | Hm can anyone confirm that pheonix can no longer fire while moving? o.O |
| 19:16.59 | casperb | New map, pop in some phoenix and some overlords, they won't fire |
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| 19:18.30 | casperb | And restarting the editor fixed it, wierd o.o |
| 19:20.32 | Sumo- | as usual |
| 19:21.23 | Cheekything | does anyone know if blink can be used for area you dont have vision of? |
| 19:27.10 | casperb | Cheekything: yup |
| 19:29.36 | Sumo- | if u disable trade |
| 19:29.45 | Sumo- | when theres a leaver, it wont share the resources right |
| 19:30.07 | Cheekything | yes |
| 19:30.15 | Skizot | heyo |
| 19:30.20 | Sumo- | ok cool |
| 19:30.28 | Sumo- | sup Skizot |
| 19:30.38 | Sumo- | Skizot: still looking for a model idea? |
| 19:31.05 | Skizot | yes and no. |
| 19:31.07 | Cheekything | >.< i forgot to set my custom blink effect *fails* |
| 19:31.33 | Sumo- | ABC and D |
| 19:32.06 | Skizot | ? |
| 19:32.16 | Sumo- | i want some sumo models |
| 19:32.32 | Sumo- | maybe can rip the ogre models |
| 19:32.50 | Sumo- | but less ogre like, and more jap sumo |
| 19:33.41 | Sumo- | maybe an attack animation of stomping or something |
| 19:33.53 | Sumo- | or haduken arm movement |
| 19:34.49 | Skizot | ..... |
| 19:40.42 | Sumo- | ? |
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| 20:01.04 | Silv_ | anycan explain how i rotate terrain? ;:P |
| 20:01.08 | Silv_ | anyone* |
| 20:01.29 | Sumo- | not sure |
| 20:01.39 | Silv_ | its easy to copy it |
| 20:01.40 | Silv_ | :P |
| 20:01.43 | Silv_ | but icant rotate |
| 20:01.49 | Sumo- | maybe copy |
| 20:01.51 | Sumo- | then rotate view |
| 20:01.52 | Sumo- | then paste |
| 20:01.53 | Sumo- | lol |
| 20:01.56 | Silv_ | nah |
| 20:01.58 | Silv_ | dont work :P |
| 20:01.59 | Sumo- | tried that? |
| 20:02.00 | Sumo- | aw |
| 20:02.05 | Sumo- | how about |
| 20:02.06 | Sumo- | copy |
| 20:02.18 | Sumo- | edit ur memory , rotate the bits |
| 20:02.20 | Sumo- | then paste |
| 20:02.31 | Sumo- | gl! |
| 20:02.36 | Silv_ | u serious? :P |
| 20:02.45 | Sumo- | of course not, lol but it might just work |
| 20:02.45 | Silv_ | iknow its possible |
| 20:02.50 | Silv_ | :P |
| 20:02.53 | Silv_ | just dontk now how |
| 20:02.59 | Sumo- | "feature delivered" |
| 20:03.09 | Sumo- | hmm |
| 20:03.10 | Sumo- | yeah |
| 20:03.17 | Sumo- | its fairly important |
| 20:03.22 | Sumo- | if you make a TD for example |
| 20:03.28 | Sumo- | and have lanes identical, just rotated |
| 20:03.32 | Sumo- | u wanna be able to copy and paste |
| 20:03.40 | Sumo- | flower style |
| 20:03.45 | Sumo- | same goes for melee |
| 20:04.08 | Sumo- | maybe its the same as the wc3 editor |
| 20:04.13 | Sumo- | so maybe google for that |
| 20:04.27 | Sumo- | thanks for playing lotto |
| 20:04.59 | Silv_ | :P |
| 20:05.36 | casperb | Difference between Unit Birth and Unit Creation actor events? |
| 20:06.10 | Sumo- | not sure casperb, maybe birth is pre and creation is post |
| 20:06.48 | Sumo- | i hate when u make a massive formula |
| 20:06.57 | Sumo- | then u realise the result needs to be an int, and its all reals or something |
| 20:07.18 | Sumo- | i guess never do stuff in a return statement, lesson learned |
| 20:07.30 | casperb | search and replace |
| 20:07.37 | Sumo- | how? |
| 20:07.47 | Sumo- | does that work in trigger editor? |
| 20:08.14 | Sumo- | >_<!! |
| 20:08.20 | casperb | Not directly, open the file externally and do it there |
| 20:08.31 | Sumo- | o. |
| 20:09.03 | Skizot | Sixen |
| 20:11.23 | Silv_ | ive found out how to rotate :) |
| 20:12.32 | Skizot | congrats? |
| 20:12.49 | Silv_ | mb sum1 was intrested in learning ho |
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| 20:18.56 | kaseano | hi :) how do I make imports accessible ? I don't think they're importing to the right directory |
| 20:19.41 | Skizot | did you SAVE in the importer? |
| 20:19.59 | kaseano | I thought so maybe not |
| 20:20.40 | kaseano | ah that did it :) thx Skizot |
| 20:20.50 | kaseano | my tgas are showing up. I guess sc doesn't like pngs |
| 20:21.25 | Skizot | nope |
| 20:21.28 | Skizot | tga and dds only. |
| 20:22.13 | kaseano | I'm not sure what a dds is, does that have transparency? trying to get something to use on a dialog |
| 20:24.53 | casperb | both can have alpha |
| 20:25.15 | Skizot | dds is a more game friendly version of a tga with mipmaps. |
| 20:25.31 | kaseano | oh hm |
| 20:28.47 | kaseano | photoshop seems to be making my transparent backgrounds solid white on tgas =/ |
| 20:29.44 | Skizot | alpha channels. |
| 20:29.46 | Skizot | use dem |
| 20:31.17 | kaseano | is that something I'd do in PS or the sc2 editor |
| 20:32.14 | Skizot | PS |
| 20:32.23 | Skizot | see the layers thing? |
| 20:32.29 | Skizot | look for channels reight beside it. |
| 20:32.30 | kaseano | ok I'll try to get it |
| 20:32.31 | kaseano | yeah |
| 20:32.45 | Skizot | you should see red grewen blue and alpha |
| 20:32.51 | Skizot | if there's no alpha. add one |
| 20:33.00 | Skizot | whit is visible black is not. |
| 20:33.35 | kaseano | oh and tgas keep track of that, that's excellent |
| 20:38.12 | kaseano | ah I think it worked, thx Skizot |
| 20:38.19 | Skizot | :) |
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| 20:40.13 | kaseano | do you know if you're supposed to use a normal blend mode in sc2? |
| 20:47.07 | kaseano | yeah the tga def has the alpha channels, just can't get sc2 to recognize it. |
| 20:47.27 | kaseano | I think (hope) it's one of the configs "Image Type" "Blend Mode" |
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| 20:54.10 | Helral | meows |
| 20:54.25 | Skizot | DIE IN A FIRE> |
| 20:54.29 | Skizot | i mean uh.. hi |
| 20:54.36 | Skizot | keys are RIGHT next toe ach other |
| 20:55.07 | Skizot | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c588gu15Nk |
| 20:55.10 | Helral | is burning (placed a cardboard drawing of fire on his back) |
| 20:56.14 | Helral | meows |
| 20:59.24 | Skizot | that shit is PARTICLES son. |
| 20:59.29 | Skizot | and part of the model. |
| 20:59.34 | Skizot | not some shittty attachment |
| 21:00.54 | Helral | meows |
| 21:09.31 | kaseano | worked yay |
| 21:20.34 | Dekar | throws helral into a tub full of cold water |
| 21:22.33 | nicoli_s | nice with thevideo skizot |
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| 21:40.09 | Xaragoth | so |
| 21:40.18 | Xaragoth | we need to teach purl new stuff |
| 21:40.19 | Sumo- | ^ ^, |
| 21:40.22 | Xaragoth | like ... playing fetch |
| 21:40.24 | Xaragoth | and stuff like that |
| 21:40.36 | Xaragoth | 'cause I'm fucking bored and the Bot could entertain me :p |
| 21:40.47 | Xaragoth | or Sixen finally delivers those strippers he promised |
| 21:41.05 | Sumo- | teach it to play starcraft 2 |
| 21:41.35 | Xaragoth | that would result in a ban |
| 21:41.36 | Xaragoth | but hey |
| 21:41.42 | Xaragoth | why not teach that IBM computer how to do it |
| 21:41.50 | Xaragoth | THAT would be worth my time |
| 21:41.56 | Sumo- | make it so they cant detect it |
| 21:42.28 | Sumo- | then we wont need test subjects for our maps |
| 21:49.55 | Silv_ | im trying to create a new waypoint to start a road from, but it keeps on going from the last road i created. |
| 21:49.59 | Silv_ | any1 know how to fix? :D |
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| 21:55.35 | Sumo- | soz :( |
| 21:55.41 | Sixen | :x |
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| 21:58.29 | Xaragoth | Sixen |
| 21:58.33 | Xaragoth | where's ma stripperlady? |
| 21:59.47 | Sixen | Tur naround. |
| 21:59.49 | Sixen | :P |
| 22:00.19 | Hati | hai sixen |
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| 22:11.31 | Vail | sigh i cant wait for Heart of The Swarm |
| 22:11.55 | klyberess | agreed :) any date yet? |
| 22:12.16 | Vail | not that i am aware of .. |
| 22:12.24 | klyberess | :/ |
| 22:12.29 | Vail | but i have a good idea of the story of it |
| 22:12.39 | klyberess | oh? |
| 22:13.08 | Vail | nod. i am not saying it will certainly be this way but i have a hunch |
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| 22:14.42 | Vail | a not completely infested Kerrigan must scrounge up as much zerg support as she can with or with out Raynors help and go to the Zerg Origin world to commune with the master of the Proto zerg and get their support in stopping the hybrid |
| 22:15.04 | klyberess | sounds reasonable enough |
| 22:15.21 | Vail | i base this all one one concept art pic |
| 22:16.13 | Sumo- | the story will be whatever makes the most money |
| 22:16.51 | Vail | sad but likely \ |
| 22:17.00 | klyberess | ofc |
| 22:17.34 | klyberess | doesnt necessarily make it bad tho ^^ |
| 22:18.04 | Vail | true |
| 22:20.04 | Sumo- | what 5 units would be good as a boss unit for a TD |
| 22:20.06 | Skizot | they are setting up the story for world of starcraft... DUH |
| 22:20.26 | klyberess | lol WoS would be pretty cool |
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| 22:33.54 | mattavich | Hello! |
| 22:34.02 | mattavich | Any wizards fo Game Variants online? |
| 22:34.21 | mattavich | I have a map similar to Marine Arena published called Bungle squats |
| 22:34.24 | klyberess | sry im a nub =) |
| 22:34.33 | mattavich | it is 2v2v2v2 map but i'd like to make it 1v1v1v1 compatible |
| 22:34.40 | mattavich | that's the challenge |
| 22:42.23 | C-H | Sumo-: any unit would be fine just make them big and sparkly |
| 22:42.30 | C-H | and pink |
| 22:43.29 | C-H | probly be the first to make a pink sparkle boss... |
| 22:43.38 | Sumo- | C-H: :S |
| 22:43.53 | Sumo- | my units are colored randomlyish |
| 22:44.23 | Sumo- | my first boss is currently a raven, thats not cool |
| 22:44.54 | Sumo- | something unusual is fun, like a giant critter bot |
| 22:45.05 | Sumo- | automaton or whatever its called |
| 22:45.09 | Sumo- | but im using that for something else |
| 22:45.33 | Sumo- | maybe wow units would be good, but i think im pushing the limit on my map size |
| 22:45.39 | Sumo- | i really want some sumo models :S |
| 22:46.44 | Sumo- | lol |
| 22:46.47 | Sumo- | i saw on linked in |
| 22:46.50 | Sumo- | this chic works at google |
| 22:46.56 | Sumo- | turns out she used to work for my old company |
| 22:46.59 | Sumo- | as her list of skills |
| 22:47.11 | Sumo- | the first item is trained in a software i wrote for the company |
| 22:47.13 | Sumo- | so sad |
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| 22:49.25 | mattavich | i hate the system of teams in sc2 |
| 22:49.44 | mattavich | i dont understand why blizzard just cant automatically make it so that the teams in the lobby are exactly the same in the map |
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| 22:50.26 | C-H | probly so people cant get the spot on the map they want |
| 22:50.32 | casperb | Weapons that fire while moving, can only auto aquire a target? |
| 22:50.48 | C-H | was like that in ye old SC if i remember right |
| 22:53.24 | mattavich | it is a real pain in the ass for mapmakers because is one person changes teams, comes in as a party or we want to play 1v1v1v1 |
| 22:53.27 | mattavich | it fucks the map up |
| 22:53.48 | mattavich | i've had this problem with all the maps i've created |
| 22:58.53 | Hati | casperb: i guess you could indirectly assign a target |
| 22:59.12 | Hati | with behaviors & validators + a "special"/tricky faked attack |
| 23:00.13 | casperb | feel free to elaborate |
| 23:00.47 | C-H | was playin Star Battle and it has auto target/attack targeted unit weapons |
| 23:00.51 | C-H | or something similar |
| 23:02.38 | Hati | well dunno if it is possible; but you could check if a unit has a specific behavior which is assigned throug the faked attack, so the weapon only attacks them |
| 23:09.23 | casperb | From what i can, you can only mess with the unit filters |
| 23:09.29 | casperb | i can tell* |
| 23:10.01 | casperb | Odd that you can't A attack a specified unit then move tho |
| 23:10.10 | casperb | but move works |
| 23:10.16 | casperb | just with a random target |
| 23:10.38 | casperb | But then again, phoenix allows targeting does it not? |
| 23:13.46 | casperb | And there's a fish that eats you alive from the inside o.o |
| 23:15.45 | Sumo- | how can i make sure a unit has health bars, for some reason for eg kerrigan doesnt have that |
| 23:16.45 | Hati | casperb: tried channeling ? |
| 23:16.57 | Hati | and keep channling while moving |
| 23:17.51 | casperb | Am about to, fresh map without all the other issues to solve it |
| 23:19.36 | Sumo- | what makes a unit like diamond back auto attack without having first been aggro'd? |
| 23:19.46 | Motive | BREAKING NEWS EVERYONE |
| 23:19.50 | Motive | Battle.net just raped me. |
| 23:19.55 | Motive | Please, offer your support to others in situations like mine. |
| 23:19.56 | Motive | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1869224570#1 |
| 23:20.25 | casperb | Sumo-: normal target acquisition |
| 23:20.36 | casperb | i.e unit filters and prioritization |
| 23:20.57 | Sumo- | casperb: what about can initiate attack flag? |
| 23:21.15 | Sumo- | where can i find what ur talking about... |
| 23:22.34 | casperb | No where, might be some tidbits on the forums |
| 23:22.43 | Sumo- | hrm ok i have another look |
| 23:22.46 | Sumo- | what about the health bars? |
| 23:22.55 | casperb | unit actor |
| 23:23.25 | Sumo- | what is it? an event? |
| 23:23.35 | Sumo- | please tell me its a flag...lol |
| 23:23.51 | casperb | yeh ofc |
| 23:24.29 | Sumo- | is it, FieldDiamondback |
| 23:24.29 | Sumo- | UI - Status Bar FlagsShields, Life, Energy, Cargo, Progress, Duration |
| 23:24.38 | casperb | yup |
| 23:24.42 | Sumo- | cheers lad |
| 23:29.12 | Sumo- | saweeet |
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| 23:39.11 | Clord | battle.net raped someone? |
| 23:39.15 | Clord | hmmmmm |
| 23:39.29 | Clord | first of all let's clear confusion between real battle.net and person pretending to be one |
| 23:40.13 | Clord | actually in facebook case what is social network |
| 23:40.16 | Clord | you can decline |
| 23:40.24 | Clord | battle.net does not allow such thing with chat channels lol |
| 23:40.33 | Clord | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/1869224570#1 |
| 23:46.29 | Clord | next step for blizzard... censor all map names and author names due copyright reasons in forum |
| 23:46.31 | Clord | ^^ |
| 23:46.36 | Clord | forums lol |
| 23:50.40 | Clord | it is still stupid that they can bypass their own publishing related rules when they made campaign |
| 23:50.49 | Clord | yeah it is not exactly same thing as they don't publish them but still |
| 23:50.50 | Clord | ^^ |
