| 00:00.10 | Agouti | the players have a single unit with experience/leveling |
| 00:00.18 | Agouti | which gains XP from dealing damage |
| 00:00.24 | Phaos | there must be a way to restrict sharing from the cause rather than the effect. *looks* |
| 00:00.43 | Agouti | there isn't inside the actual behaviour |
| 00:00.48 | Agouti | perhaps all units have a flag now |
| 00:01.52 | Phaos | there is the share radius in the behavior. what about setting that to 0? |
| 00:02.03 | Agouti | tried that |
| 00:02.16 | Agouti | that is the radius that the unit with the behaviour shares it's own XP |
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| 00:02.26 | Agouti | it's all units /without/ a vet behaviour are automatically sharing |
| 00:02.27 | Phaos | true :S |
| 00:02.38 | Phaos | same page now |
| 00:02.57 | Phaos | then it would have to be a unit flag then :x |
| 00:03.07 | Phaos | if not . blizzard done goofed |
| 00:05.24 | Phaos | ungh this thing where the fields ping to the top when ever you change unit is annoying D: |
| 00:05.53 | Nash|327 | D_D |
| 00:06.20 | Nash|327 | fields pinging to the top |
| 00:06.43 | Nash|327 | mountains DDoSing sideways? |
| 00:06.50 | Phaos | xD |
| 00:07.04 | Phaos | nice imagination Nash :D |
| 00:07.22 | Agouti | Wait wait wait |
| 00:07.23 | Agouti | Phaos |
| 00:07.28 | Phaos | yeh? |
| 00:07.30 | Agouti | have you ever seen this unit field before? |
| 00:07.31 | Agouti | FieldTranscendental Photon Cannon |
| 00:07.31 | Agouti | Behavior - Damage Dealt (Veterancy)0 |
| 00:07.45 | Phaos | yeah thats always been there as far as I remember. |
| 00:08.12 | Agouti | perhaps it is merely the tooltip that was added |
| 00:08.17 | Phaos | mine a default set to 1 now though. and I remember them being 0 |
| 00:08.40 | Agouti | from the sounds of it, it behaves exactly like I have been using the equiv. field in the veterancy behaviour |
| 00:09.03 | Phaos | yeh so I guess to fix your problem, go through EVERY unit and change that to 0 :P |
| 00:09.18 | Phaos | thx blizz :D -_- |
| 00:09.21 | Agouti | it already is 0 :S |
| 00:09.25 | Phaos | oh... |
| 00:09.31 | Agouti | I think I have to turn of the XP gain in the behaviour |
| 00:09.34 | Agouti | and instead set it there |
| 00:09.37 | Agouti | that *might* work |
| 00:10.22 | Phaos | I was thinking. what you /could/ do is make an empty veterancy called like "mobvet" which has no levels and no xp sharing. and apply that to all your standard units :S |
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| 00:11.25 | Agouti | yeah, I think that might be what I have to do |
| 00:11.28 | Agouti | yaaaaaaaaaaay -.- |
| 00:11.36 | Phaos | they said they added a "bounty" field. to me it's still "kill experience" |
| 00:11.37 | Agouti | it's what I had planned, anyway |
| 00:11.50 | Agouti | I thought they always had bounty? |
| 00:11.55 | Phaos | now I'm wondering if they are two different things |
| 00:12.23 | Agouti | who knows :S |
| 00:12.30 | Phaos | I have no bounty. only "kill experience" they are probably one in the same and it's just my SEA version of the editor |
| 00:13.15 | Agouti | I don't think the text is different between SEA/NA |
| 00:13.24 | Agouti | they are both US(Eng) |
| 00:13.27 | Phaos | yeh |
| 00:13.38 | Agouti | maybe if we had UK eng |
| 00:14.24 | Phaos | so for you the "kill experience" is called "bounty" ? |
| 00:15.03 | Nash|327 | What are you, pirates? |
| 00:15.15 | Phaos | YARRRGH |
| 00:15.21 | Nash|327 | ARRR! |
| 00:15.27 | Nash|327 | ME BOUNTY! |
| 00:15.35 | Phaos | Nash ye scurvy dog! |
| 00:15.36 | Agouti | hmm, no I have kill exp |
| 00:15.41 | Agouti | I am sure I have seen bounty somewhere |
| 00:15.46 | Agouti | perhaps in triggers |
| 00:15.51 | Nash|327 | Off the plank ye landlubber! |
| 00:15.56 | Nash|327 | Shiver me timbers! |
| 00:16.02 | Agouti | you can get on my plan anyday |
| 00:16.05 | Agouti | plank* |
| 00:16.33 | Agouti | :3 |
| 00:16.35 | Phaos | Landlubber? I am such a sea dog I got barnicles grown' places ye don't want to go |
| 00:17.04 | Nash|327 | ARR! I challenge ye to rum drinkin' contest! |
| 00:18.16 | Nash|327 | Wench, fetch me rum! |
| 00:18.32 | Phaos | First to down a barrel o rum while riding on the back of a Kraken gets the other dogs wench! |
| 00:18.50 | Nash|327 | ARR! Ye have a deal! |
| 00:19.03 | Agouti | .___. |
| 00:19.18 | Nash|327 | flatface? |
| 00:19.26 | Nash|327 | he's got a small flat face |
| 00:19.35 | Phaos | downsyndrome perhaps? |
| 00:20.56 | Nash|327 | I demand KITTUNS! |
| 00:22.20 | JManV | hmmm |
| 00:22.31 | JManV | i have to reinstall windows |
| 00:22.37 | JManV | and flash my bios |
| 00:22.43 | JManV | and i don't want to do either |
| 00:22.53 | Agouti | why O__o |
| 00:22.59 | doite | Mates |
| 00:23.01 | doite | may i ask |
| 00:23.11 | doite | If i now have a behavior, i want to make it look cool |
| 00:23.17 | JManV | well, i'm moving the hard drive my OS is on to another computer |
| 00:23.20 | doite | Like a ... arua around the unit that has it |
| 00:23.23 | doite | How do i do that? |
| 00:23.24 | JManV | the one i'm using instead will be faster |
| 00:23.27 | doite | is it.. actor |
| 00:23.28 | Phaos | actorz! |
| 00:23.30 | Agouti | oh ffs |
| 00:23.33 | Agouti | Phaos |
| 00:23.42 | doite | Actor, ok, and how do i attach it to the behavior phaos? |
| 00:23.45 | Agouti | the vet behaviour without sharing |
| 00:23.47 | Agouti | doesn't stop it |
| 00:23.53 | Phaos | welp! |
| 00:23.55 | JManV | and i have to flash my bios for new processor support |
| 00:24.17 | Agouti | JManV, you don't have to reinstall windows |
| 00:24.20 | Phaos | thats just plain bugged and broken then. write a bug report. post it on the bug forum and I will post a confirmation |
| 00:24.20 | doite | welp? |
| 00:24.30 | Agouti | just start it up with your windows CD in the drive, it will fix itself |
| 00:24.45 | JManV | moving to another hard drive |
| 00:24.51 | doite | The actor, how do i attach it the behavior? |
| 00:24.59 | doite | or link them |
| 00:25.03 | Phaos | in the actor events+ |
| 00:25.13 | JManV | besides, this windows is a mess |
| 00:25.13 | doite | k thx |
| 00:25.24 | JManV | been running for over a year |
| 00:25.32 | Phaos | I dunno why you have any need to flash the bios though |
| 00:25.40 | JManV | new processor support |
| 00:25.44 | Phaos | just go into your bios settings and change the boot priority |
| 00:25.54 | JManV | it's not recognizing my phenom2x6 |
| 00:25.56 | doite | What kind of actor? |
| 00:25.58 | Phaos | oh :x |
| 00:26.04 | doite | type * of actor |
| 00:26.05 | JManV | seperate problem |
| 00:26.07 | Phaos | for a behavior ? |
| 00:26.11 | doite | m |
| 00:26.27 | doite | yes sir |
| 00:26.58 | Phaos | type "model" "based on "cactormodel" |
| 00:27.04 | doite | thx |
| 00:27.53 | Lilianna | :D I have a phenom2 x6 |
| 00:27.55 | Lilianna | \o/ |
| 00:28.45 | JManV | do you |
| 00:28.51 | Phaos | I have a Intel Core2 Quad 3.1 |
| 00:28.53 | Agouti | I think I'm going to have to do my veterancy through triggers.... fml |
| 00:29.07 | Phaos | FYL D: |
| 00:29.07 | doite | !! |
| 00:29.09 | doite | ... FieldBeacon Actor Event - Events + |
| 00:29.12 | JManV | right now it says AMD processor model unknown 803 MHz |
| 00:29.14 | doite | Are u kidding me? |
| 00:29.20 | doite | Events are insanely hard =( |
| 00:29.23 | JManV | pretty sure it's not really running at 802 tho |
| 00:29.29 | Phaos | they arn't hard |
| 00:29.35 | Phaos | just confusing when you first start |
| 00:29.37 | JManV | it is recognizing all 6 cores tho |
| 00:29.39 | Agouti | ^ |
| 00:30.34 | doite | hmm |
| 00:30.47 | Agouti | though |
| 00:30.56 | doite | i started out with a "Behavior -> the behavior i made -> create" |
| 00:30.56 | Agouti | I have siege tanks with broken actors now |
| 00:31.01 | Agouti | which I am putting off trying to fix |
| 00:31.05 | doite | What would action be? |
| 00:31.08 | Agouti | turret actors and morph actors yaaaaaay |
| 00:31.16 | JManV | i haven't fixed my missing style yet |
| 00:31.24 | Agouti | you want Behaviour.name.On |
| 00:31.27 | Agouti | generally |
| 00:31.27 | JManV | anyone figure out custom styles yet? |
| 00:31.52 | JManV | yikes |
| 00:32.04 | JManV | windows rating - calulations per second: 4.1 |
| 00:32.07 | JManV | :( |
| 00:32.17 | JManV | the processor is not fully powered |
| 00:32.17 | Phaos | Behavior.name.on |
| 00:32.18 | Phaos | create |
| 00:32.18 | Phaos | Behavior.name.off |
| 00:32.18 | Phaos | destroy |
| 00:32.26 | Phaos | for every level of that behavior :P |
| 00:32.46 | doite | Create? |
| 00:32.51 | doite | just create? |
| 00:33.00 | doite | No like.. create actor? |
| 00:33.01 | JManV | just create |
| 00:33.04 | Phaos | msg type : Create |
| 00:33.09 | Agouti | yup, it is impossible to stop units from sharing XP from dealing and receiving damage.... thanks Blizzard. |
| 00:33.11 | doite | yes but nothing else? |
| 00:33.37 | Phaos | Agouti write that bug report for the forums |
| 00:33.38 | JManV | nothing else |
| 00:33.41 | Nash|327 | well that makes it easier to implement XP sharing |
| 00:33.48 | Nash|327 | because you don't have to! |
| 00:33.54 | Agouti | I popped a Q_Q thread in Custom Maps |
| 00:33.59 | Phaos | the problem is nash they broke it so you can't NOT share XP |
| 00:34.00 | Nash|327 | it's even impossible to fuck it up! |
| 00:34.01 | doite | But i want it to run for ever (til the unit dies) |
| 00:34.02 | Agouti | if that counts |
| 00:34.07 | doite | Do i have to do a "destroy? |
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| 00:34.09 | Agouti | lol Nash |
| 00:34.28 | Phaos | yes doite |
| 00:34.28 | Agouti | now I get to have triggers with |
| 00:34.38 | Agouti | Any Unit Deals Damage |
| 00:34.38 | Phaos | you need a create and destroy for all actors |
| 00:34.45 | Agouti | :S |
| 00:34.46 | Phaos | behavior.name.off |
| 00:34.48 | Phaos | destroy' |
| 00:34.54 | doite | Hmm.. |
| 00:34.55 | doite | Ok |
| 00:35.15 | Agouti | actors are kind of like behaviours, but the actor can't stack |
| 00:35.25 | Phaos | agouti write an entire XP system to tide you over while you wait for blizz to fix it :D |
| 00:35.26 | Agouti | so if you don't destroy it, you can't create it on the unit again |
| 00:35.29 | Nash|327 | actors are mindfucks |
| 00:35.34 | Agouti | rofl Phaos |
| 00:35.36 | Agouti | in triggers |
| 00:35.38 | doite | Ah ofc... |
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| 00:35.39 | Agouti | woot! |
| 00:35.46 | Phaos | yeah wooo! |
| 00:35.52 | Phaos | Network traffic HOOOOOOO |
| 00:36.11 | Skizot | hallo me nublets |
| 00:36.17 | doite | I get it.. Event Unit gets a behavior.. what behavior -> name.. On or off? On.. Create actor... Unit dies or has the buff removed... destroy actor |
| 00:36.24 | doite | Thanks Phaos |
| 00:36.37 | Reactorex | Hey, is it possible to hide the selection boxes made from a click and drag? |
| 00:36.39 | Phaos | thats the one :) no problem |
| 00:37.10 | Agouti | remembering that dead units can still have buffs |
| 00:37.37 | Phaos | yeh xD |
| 00:37.59 | Phaos | but only if your behavior is flagged to apply to "dead" |
| 00:38.17 | Reactorex | Is it? D: |
| 00:38.42 | Phaos | but is super useful for certain enemies like one which lets off noxious fumes when it dies :D |
| 00:38.59 | Phaos | no reactor it's hard coded |
| 00:39.11 | Phaos | you can turn off move events though |
| 00:39.25 | Rodrigo | I AM STREAMING AND MAKING COMMENTS ON SC2MAPSTER CUSTOM MAPS. http://www.livestream.com/scdebates |
| 00:39.25 | Phaos | but something tells me you still want to be able to select things |
| 00:39.25 | Rodrigo | together with mephs |
| 00:39.25 | Rodrigo | http://www.livestream.com/scdebates |
| 00:39.27 | Rodrigo | watch us: http://www.livestream.com/scdebates |
| 00:40.50 | Reactorex | No, I don't want to be able to select things- I want the select box to not appear when I left-click and drag. >.> |
| 00:41.03 | Phaos | well turn off mouse events :P |
| 00:41.05 | Reactorex | So turning off move events can do that ? ;o |
| 00:41.14 | Reactorex | Never seen how. ._. |
| 00:41.27 | Phaos | "disable mouse for player group" |
| 00:41.42 | Phaos | or something like that |
| 00:41.45 | Phaos | lemme check |
| 00:42.00 | Phaos | hahah |
| 00:42.03 | Phaos | well guess waht |
| 00:42.12 | Phaos | "Enable/disable drag selection" |
| 00:42.22 | Phaos | it's a trigger action |
| 00:42.35 | Reactorex | o.o |
| 00:42.38 | Reactorex | YES. <3 |
| 00:43.04 | Phaos | :D |
| 00:43.06 | Reactorex | I went by that thing like, maybe 20 times. And never noticed it. o.o |
| 00:43.17 | Agouti | don't worry, happens to everyone |
| 00:43.20 | Phaos | be general when searching for things |
| 00:43.27 | Phaos | search: "Mouse" |
| 00:43.27 | Reactorex | I looked in UI. :P |
| 00:43.44 | Reactorex | Yay. ^^ |
| 00:44.01 | Reactorex | To-do remaining... I need to make my skybox black. ._. |
| 00:44.04 | Phaos | UI is many things. GUI/Keys/mouse e.t.c |
| 00:44.08 | Reactorex | And fix my scroll. O.o |
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| 00:44.19 | Reactorex | .. zoom* |
| 00:44.26 | Reactorex | plugs into work. |
| 00:44.28 | Reactorex | Thanks~ <3 |
| 00:45.20 | doite | Phaos |
| 00:45.24 | doite | Doesnt work =/ |
| 00:45.31 | doite | The behavior works |
| 00:45.34 | doite | But not the actor |
| 00:46.15 | doite | I trigger add behavior (then the behavarior) to the unit |
| 00:47.00 | Agouti | OK, Phaos, if the unit itself gains XP from say dealing damage |
| 00:47.05 | Agouti | it won't automatically share it |
| 00:47.12 | Agouti | if it has that field set to 0 however it will |
| 00:47.53 | doite | FieldBeacon Actor Event - Events +(Behavior.Beacons.On|Behavior.Beacons.Off):(|):(Create|Destroy) |
| 00:48.01 | doite | Are u sure its not anything else then that? |
| 00:48.09 | Rodrigo | http://www.livestream.com/scdebates |
| 00:48.12 | Phaos | beacon actor event O.o ? |
| 00:48.14 | doite | Not Create active crystals |
| 00:48.19 | doite | Yea? |
| 00:48.23 | doite | Or |
| 00:48.25 | Phaos | should just be event - events+ |
| 00:48.32 | doite | Oh but it is |
| 00:48.43 | doite | First is the name |
| 00:48.43 | doite | =) |
| 00:48.44 | doite | haha |
| 00:48.50 | doite | Of the actor |
| 00:48.52 | doite | that is |
| 00:48.56 | Phaos | I see :) |
| 00:49.05 | doite | And i have model - art |
| 00:49.10 | Phaos | hmm. did you set the model :D |
| 00:49.11 | Phaos | oh |
| 00:49.13 | Phaos | hmm |
| 00:49.13 | doite | I guess thats the one where i choose actor |
| 00:49.23 | doite | I choose active crystals |
| 00:49.32 | Phaos | the model is the .. model :P |
| 00:49.32 | doite | borring but i just need it working for now |
| 00:49.45 | Phaos | you may need to play an animation on your model in order to see it |
| 00:49.48 | Phaos | in which case |
| 00:49.50 | doite | FieldBeacon Actor Art - ModelActive Crystals |
| 00:49.53 | doite | So not that one? |
| 00:50.02 | doite | Art - Model* |
| 00:50.11 | Phaos | new event |
| 00:50.14 | Phaos | actorcreation |
| 00:50.27 | Phaos | Play anim stand/birth |
| 00:50.28 | doite | k |
| 00:50.35 | Phaos | forever |
| 00:51.12 | Phaos | forever means it will simply loop until the actor is destroyed |
| 00:52.21 | Phaos | agouti |
| 00:52.32 | Phaos | so if it's set to 1 it /won't/ share O.o ? |
| 00:52.42 | Agouti | if it is non zero it will not share |
| 00:52.52 | Agouti | if the unit itself does no gain XP from something, it will share it |
| 00:53.00 | Agouti | not* |
| 00:53.03 | Phaos | right |
| 00:53.18 | Phaos | so if that is a positive number AND it has NO veterancy. then it will NOT share |
| 00:53.32 | Phaos | however if it is a positive number AND has veterency it WILL share ? |
| 00:54.05 | Phaos | what about if has veterency but is set to 0 :P ? |
| 00:54.08 | Agouti | other way around |
| 00:54.13 | doite | FieldBeacon Actor Event - Events +(Behavior.Beacons.On|ActorCreation|Behavior.Beacons.Off):(||):(Create|AnimPlay {} Stand,Birth PlayForever|Destroy) |
| 00:54.15 | doite | Like this? |
| 00:54.18 | Agouti | if the unit does NOT gain XP from something, it WILL share |
| 00:54.28 | Agouti | period |
| 00:54.30 | Phaos | doite |
| 00:54.34 | doite | mm |
| 00:54.47 | Phaos | try to stay away from animation sets |
| 00:55.07 | Phaos | use a simple "play animation" |
| 00:55.24 | doite | but how then "stand/birth? |
| 00:55.37 | Phaos | if you want a birth |
| 00:55.40 | Phaos | do it like this |
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| 00:56.02 | doite | I dont really, i just want it to do active crystals=) |
| 00:56.38 | Phaos | ActorCreation |
| 00:56.38 | Phaos | Animplay - Birth |
| 00:56.38 | Phaos | name - birth |
| 00:56.38 | Phaos | Animfinish |
| 00:56.38 | Phaos | animplay - stand |
| 00:56.39 | Phaos | ActorDestroy |
| 00:56.39 | Phaos | animplay - death |
| 00:57.00 | doite | after the " destroy" event? |
| 00:57.06 | Phaos | yeah :P still work |
| 00:57.07 | Phaos | s |
| 00:57.08 | doite | oh |
| 00:57.12 | doite | hmm ok.. |
| 00:57.27 | Phaos | destroy only removes the actor once the actor finishes it's current animation loop |
| 00:58.12 | Phaos | I may have got the names wrong for the event types |
| 00:58.15 | Phaos | but they will be similar |
| 00:58.20 | doite | Still doesnt work |
| 00:58.28 | doite | Maybe im adding the wrong behavior |
| 00:58.29 | doite | ? |
| 00:58.35 | Phaos | possible |
| 00:58.37 | doite | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:58.44 | doite | Beacon is the behavior |
| 00:58.49 | Dekar- | Demonette that was you just now? |
| 00:58.50 | doite | Beacon actor is the actor |
| 00:58.52 | doite | Thats all i have |
| 00:59.01 | doite | Nothing inbetween or anything.. |
| 00:59.49 | Helral | meow |
| 00:59.54 | Phaos | I'm not sure how triggers and behaviors play togeather as I tend to keep triggers and Data editor mutually exclusive where I can |
| 01:00.06 | Nash|327 | KITTUNS? |
| 01:00.09 | doite | kk |
| 01:00.10 | Helral | meow |
| 01:00.16 | Nash|327 | KITTUNS! |
| 01:00.22 | doite | hey helral |
| 01:00.31 | Nash|327 | Fetch me a bag, there are kittuns! |
| 01:01.02 | Helral | slices bottom of bag open. |
| 01:01.28 | Nash|327 | See? Kittuns love bags. |
| 01:01.32 | Agouti | Helral, make the bad veterancy changes go away 3: |
| 01:01.55 | Dekar- | helral go to bed already! |
| 01:01.57 | Helral | does a veterancy go away meow |
| 01:02.01 | Helral | is in bed ;p |
| 01:02.06 | Agouti | haha |
| 01:02.16 | Nash|327 | I gave that kittun a bag. Kittuns love bags. |
| 01:02.32 | Helral | pulls bag over Nash|327's head. |
| 01:02.34 | Agouti | to be specific: Any unit which does /not/ gain XP from something, such as dealing damage, will automatically share it. This cannot be turned off. |
| 01:03.00 | Phaos | I know a cat that sits on pizza boxes O.O |
| 01:03.08 | Nash|327 | they are warm? |
| 01:03.09 | Agouti | the only way to stop it is to give every unit a veterency behavior which gives it XP for said actions |
| 01:03.11 | Phaos | like. if there is a pizza box. cat will sit on it |
| 01:03.16 | Phaos | and only pizza boxes |
| 01:03.18 | Agouti | cats love boxes |
| 01:03.29 | Nash|327 | What if you want to eat the pizza? |
| 01:03.51 | Phaos | you have to make the kitty mad if you want the pizza in the box |
| 01:04.02 | Phaos | but cat will sit on the box weither there is pizza or not inside |
| 01:04.59 | Demonette | Dekar- ? |
| 01:05.03 | Demonette | what was me? |
| 01:05.17 | doite | Phaos |
| 01:05.19 | Dekar- | on bnet |
| 01:05.21 | Nash|327 | YOU HAVE ANGERED PIZZA BOX KITTY |
| 01:05.22 | Dekar- | arca |
| 01:05.23 | Dekar- | woman |
| 01:05.26 | Dekar- | _< |
| 01:05.28 | Dekar- | :< |
| 01:05.33 | doite | The actor -> Archon worked.. it created a archon on the unit.. |
| 01:05.34 | Dekar- | PROBABLY NOT |
| 01:05.36 | doite | but it worked.. |
| 01:05.43 | doite | maybe its wrong with active crystals |
| 01:05.44 | doite | ? |
| 01:05.54 | Demonette | Archina yes |
| 01:05.57 | Demonette | thats me =D |
| 01:05.58 | Dekar- | oh |
| 01:05.59 | Dekar- | ok! |
| 01:06.04 | Demonette | Demonette is Archina =D |
| 01:06.12 | Dekar- | for a moment i thought helral is popular |
| 01:06.50 | Nash|327 | How could you? |
| 01:07.10 | doite | Doesnt anyone know any actor that looks like a cool tealish aura |
| 01:07.17 | Demonette | Hehehe XD |
| 01:07.18 | doite | thats premade.. that is |
| 01:07.25 | Demonette | no helral isn't that popular =P |
| 01:07.38 | Nash|327 | use the Predator aura and apply a tint? |
| 01:08.21 | doite | Predator aura? |
| 01:08.24 | doite | whats that called? |
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| 01:08.38 | Nash|327 | dunno, check the Predator unit |
| 01:08.39 | JManV | bios flashed |
| 01:08.47 | JManV | processor fully functioning |
| 01:08.49 | JManV | w00t |
| 01:09.03 | Twiner|Work | HACJKER!~ |
| 01:09.53 | Nash|327 | ROBOT KITTUNS OF DOOM |
| 01:10.09 | JManV | make it |
| 01:10.23 | JManV | laser cats! |
| 01:10.36 | Nash|327 | Predator with laser weapons? |
| 01:13.02 | pirate_ | just made bacon sushi |
| 01:13.14 | JManV | interesting |
| 01:13.18 | pirate_ | was pretty awesome |
| 01:13.28 | pirate_ | well, was more like breakfast sushi |
| 01:13.41 | pirate_ | eggs/cheese/hashbrowns wrapped in bacon |
| 01:14.18 | JManV | alright, i can dig that |
| 01:14.21 | Nash|327 | ewww |
| 01:14.29 | JManV | wow |
| 01:14.39 | pirate_ | so if i get a heart attack and die |
| 01:14.48 | pirate_ | thats why the sequel to Facility 17 didnt happen |
| 01:14.50 | JManV | windows rating - calculations per second: 7.5 |
| 01:14.52 | Nash|327 | It's your own damn fault. |
| 01:14.59 | JManV | memory operations per second: 7.5 |
| 01:14.59 | Agouti | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:15.09 | Nash|327 | Bacon :/ |
| 01:15.19 | JManV | now to get this slow hard drive out of here |
| 01:15.46 | JManV | disk data transfer rate: 5.7 |
| 01:15.57 | JManV | that's my bottleneck |
| 01:16.00 | Nash|327 | unplug it right now so we can watch you ping out |
| 01:16.05 | JManV | heh |
| 01:16.19 | JManV | it'll prolly still run |
| 01:16.28 | JManV | might blue screen at some point |
| 01:16.50 | JManV | if i had to page memory prolly |
| 01:16.58 | JManV | but i'm not gonna do that |
| 01:17.04 | JManV | because i like my computer |
| 01:17.22 | Nash|327 | Windows will run even though the HD it's on isn't connected? |
| 01:17.28 | JManV | prolly |
| 01:17.36 | Agouti | no |
| 01:17.37 | JManV | it should load enough into ram to run |
| 01:17.39 | Agouti | it will blue screen |
| 01:17.46 | Agouti | 100% |
| 01:17.49 | JManV | will it? |
| 01:17.51 | Agouti | yup |
| 01:17.57 | Nash|327 | I don't think everything is loaded into RAM D_D |
| 01:18.04 | Agouti | most of it is cahced |
| 01:18.17 | JManV | either way |
| 01:18.20 | JManV | not gonna do it |
| 01:18.25 | Nash|327 | DO IT |
| 01:18.26 | Agouti | I wouldn't, lol |
| 01:18.32 | JManV | no frickin way |
| 01:18.44 | Nash|327 | It's hardcore! |
| 01:18.50 | Agouti | YEAAAAH YEAAAH |
| 01:18.53 | Agouti | ALWAYS HARDCORE |
| 01:18.59 | JManV | that's not synonymous with good |
| 01:19.19 | Nash|327 | lies |
| 01:19.40 | JManV | anyways, in order to do any of that |
| 01:19.48 | JManV | i have to reinstall sc2 :( |
| 01:20.02 | JManV | that's the biggest deal i have with any of it :P |
| 01:20.12 | JManV | oh good |
| 01:20.17 | JManV | .... and all those patches |
| 01:20.42 | Agouti | why do you ahve to resinstall? |
| 01:20.51 | JManV | i have to format the drive |
| 01:21.03 | Agouti | why? |
| 01:21.09 | JManV | old slow drive going to another computer |
| 01:21.18 | Nash|327 | COPY/PASTE ENTIRE FOLDER TO USB DRIVE |
| 01:21.20 | JManV | new faster drive coming from another use |
| 01:21.28 | Agouti | I wouldn't reformat, just install on new compy |
| 01:21.29 | Agouti | copy |
| 01:21.30 | JManV | new OS |
| 01:21.30 | Agouti | ???? |
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| 01:21.32 | Agouti | profit |
| 01:21.38 | Nash|327 | THEN COPY/PASTE FOLDER TO NEW HD |
| 01:21.40 | JManV | i can copy |
| 01:21.48 | Nash|327 | quick reinstall! |
| 01:21.49 | JManV | that could work |
| 01:22.00 | JManV | the disk is totally at work |
| 01:22.08 | Skizot | dammit :( i'm torn! |
| 01:22.11 | Agouti | <- genius, amirite? |
| 01:22.12 | JManV | ... long story |
| 01:22.15 | Skizot | I have "liberated" a piece of artwork from a game... and it would look GREAT as a hat in tf2... |
| 01:22.22 | Skizot | but i don't know if i should |
| 01:22.27 | Agouti | dooo eeeet |
| 01:22.32 | Agouti | just credit the original creators |
| 01:22.41 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/tf2wip/IRThief.png on the engie |
| 01:22.58 | Reactorex | YES. |
| 01:23.07 | Nash|327 | ugly hat |
| 01:23.16 | Nash|327 | like most of the TF2 hats |
| 01:23.19 | Nash|327 | so it fits |
| 01:23.22 | Nash|327 | :G |
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| 01:23.45 | Agouti | http://baldrics.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/bugfeature.jpg |
| 01:23.56 | Nash|327 | I mean you can have a parasite as a hat so whatever |
| 01:24.44 | doite | phaos |
| 01:24.48 | doite | Now it worked |
| 01:24.54 | doite | it was a buff continues |
| 01:25.05 | doite | Now lets see.. predator.. |
| 01:26.01 | doite | Ooooh, predator |
| 01:26.10 | doite | i dont have that dependency thing |
| 01:26.12 | doite | dammit |
| 01:26.37 | ThunderLord | does anyone know if it is possible to recolor the inside of a progress bar??? the inside not the outline |
| 01:27.35 | JManV | which progress bar? |
| 01:27.52 | doite | Is there a way to view different actors |
| 01:28.44 | doite | nvm found it |
| 01:28.45 | Skizot | nash... do you even KNOW where that hat is from? |
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| 01:31.25 | Nash|327 | No, that's not required to consider it ugly. |
| 01:32.11 | ThunderLord | the progress bar dialog? |
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| 01:32.53 | JManV | oh i dunno |
| 01:33.00 | JManV | i made my own progress bar |
| 01:33.56 | ThunderLord | wait |
| 01:33.59 | ThunderLord | JmanV |
| 01:34.01 | ThunderLord | how> |
| 01:34.04 | ThunderLord | how?* |
| 01:34.10 | ThunderLord | i wana |
| 01:34.11 | ThunderLord | do that |
| 01:34.14 | ThunderLord | rlly bad |
| 01:34.29 | ThunderLord | like made it in photoshop? |
| 01:35.39 | JManV | no |
| 01:35.40 | JManV | hold on |
| 01:35.47 | JManV | let me look at it real quick |
| 01:35.51 | JManV | it's just a few images |
| 01:37.20 | Nash|327 | TF2 is annoying now, too many fucking items and hats :/ |
| 01:37.30 | Skizot | nash you are fired. please leave now. |
| 01:38.03 | JManV | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.07 | JManV | ew |
| 01:38.11 | JManV | let me pastebin |
| 01:38.49 | JManV | http://pastebin.com/TgdB6j7s |
| 01:39.08 | JManV | ui_mission_leaderboard_progressbar_frame.dds |
| 01:39.12 | JManV | as border type |
| 01:39.43 | JManV | ui_loadingbarsegment_center.dss is the green progress bar |
| 01:40.33 | JManV | i used in inlay of 5 on the border |
| 01:42.41 | JManV | looks like this: http://i54.tinypic.com/21srrr.jpg |
| 01:43.00 | JManV | later, i resize the inner image |
| 01:44.00 | JManV | i haven't recolored it yet |
| 01:44.19 | JManV | but i figured i'd just load an image from photoshop for the bar |
| 01:44.29 | JManV | doesn't have to be but a few pixels |
| 01:45.33 | ThunderLord | Cool Jman |
| 01:45.44 | ThunderLord | Thats how a G6 Does it |
| 01:45.51 | ThunderLord | never thought about doing it that way |
| 01:45.52 | ThunderLord | thanks |
| 01:46.01 | JManV | you could also mess with the border image |
| 01:46.05 | JManV | look at how it's done |
| 01:46.09 | JManV | and change it |
| 01:46.21 | ThunderLord | well actually |
| 01:46.29 | JManV | there's a few other border type images too |
| 01:46.55 | ThunderLord | i already am making a "Plate" that overlays several bars, so i can just gimp the bar borders in to the plate |
| 01:47.07 | ThunderLord | this actually makes it much easier for me |
| 01:47.16 | ThunderLord | Thank you |
| 01:47.21 | JManV | no prob |
| 01:52.46 | doite | There.. done! Now its just 1 more days work, anyone from europe able to test play for the moment? |
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| 02:12.14 | JManV | hmmm |
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| 02:21.21 | JManV | here goes nothing... |
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| 02:27.58 | doite | Is it possible to disable that ESC == F10 |
| 02:29.50 | Skizot | SON OF A BITCH. |
| 02:30.07 | doite | Skizzors? |
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| 02:32.48 | QueenGambit | can someone help me? |
| 02:35.45 | Skizot | stupid patch got to 2 mb left then stopped. |
| 02:35.54 | Skizot | i restart it... 78 mb to go. |
| 02:36.09 | Skizot | can i download a standalone version of the patch? |
| 02:36.58 | QueenGambit | i don't think so skizot |
| 02:37.09 | QueenGambit | hey skizot, do u know how to put in a basic text tag in a map? |
| 02:37.37 | Skizot | what kind? |
| 02:37.41 | Skizot | attached to a unit? |
| 02:38.07 | QueenGambit | yah |
| 02:38.13 | QueenGambit | or just on a surface on a map |
| 02:38.16 | Skizot | yeah theres a trigger for it. |
| 02:38.35 | Skizot | create text tag at position |
| 02:38.38 | Skizot | or you can create one that's attached to a unit. |
| 02:38.47 | QueenGambit | tag at position |
| 02:38.58 | QueenGambit | is that the trigger name? |
| 02:39.02 | QueenGambit | so i can search |
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| 02:40.09 | Skizot | look for create text tag |
| 02:40.42 | QueenGambit | i got it on actions |
| 02:40.53 | QueenGambit | any condition i should put? |
| 02:43.00 | QueenGambit | create text tag, then set alignment |
| 02:44.41 | Skizot | pretty much |
| 02:44.49 | Skizot | you can link it to a unit if you want. |
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| 02:53.00 | doite | How do i change the icon thats shown in middle UI frame when unit is selected? |
| 02:53.19 | doite | Is that what they call "wireframe" |
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| 03:20.20 | Tordy | oh gosh mephs shoutcast |
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| 03:39.55 | JManV | indeed. |
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| 03:44.35 | JManV | w00t |
| 03:44.42 | JManV | copying sc2 worked |
| 03:45.14 | JManV | why did you lie to me and say it wouldn't? :P |
| 03:48.59 | JManV | what i love, is that i actually moved it from E:, to D:, then to C: on my computer |
| 03:49.15 | JManV | and windows 7 never even skipped a beat when i clicked the icon on my taskbar |
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| 03:49.25 | JManV | i never had to re-point it |
| 03:49.31 | Triceron | Ahoy mateys |
| 03:49.32 | JManV | it just found sc2 |
| 03:49.54 | JManV | howdy |
| 03:52.54 | JManV | i did lose my editor setting apparently |
| 03:55.43 | JManV | fixed in short order |
| 04:06.51 | Twiner|Home | http://kotaku.com/5733206/a-new-and-maybe-better-way-to-stop-people-from-being-jerks-online they should put this in SC2 :p |
| 04:07.23 | Twiner|Home | I can't count the number of games I've played where people are talking tons of crap and being vulgar, and deragatory towards other players |
| 04:07.36 | Twiner|Home | more than a few times I was all "Dude, its a game, just have fun" |
| 04:07.55 | Twiner|Home | and then thye are all "thats loser talk, I'm going to wreck you" |
| 04:08.02 | Twiner|Home | of course, I then follow up by wrecking them... |
| 04:09.58 | Agouti | tl;dr |
| 04:10.05 | Agouti | seems like a good idea if it works in practive |
| 04:10.09 | Agouti | practice* |
| 04:11.09 | Triceron | seems like 'nice to have' stuff that might not really work out. |
| 04:11.15 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/tf2wip/SCOUTtotheFUTURE.png |
| 04:11.17 | Skizot | >_> |
| 04:11.21 | Skizot | hi triceron |
| 04:11.28 | Triceron | Hey Skiz |
| 04:19.49 | ThunderLord | why would a .dds 280x24 blue square image put in a dialog as an image cause my map to freeze? |
| 04:21.45 | ThunderLord | any ideas? |
| 04:22.58 | Skizot | because it's not a power of two? |
| 04:22.59 | Agouti | because you touch yourself at night |
| 04:23.13 | Skizot | try 256x256 |
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| 04:26.20 | ThunderLord | it needs to be a power of 2? |
| 04:26.31 | Skizot | it's worth a shot? |
| 04:26.47 | ThunderLord | ill try iti have other images that are not a power of 2 |
| 04:27.03 | Skizot | Triceron PM |
| 04:28.53 | Agouti | it isn't possible for a structure to rotate normally, is it |
| 04:29.24 | Agouti | terran buildings work a little strangely, but they don't have footprints when flying |
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| 04:47.35 | Sumo- | how do u make a unit so that when its created it uses an ability immediately? |
| 04:48.09 | Skizot | autocast? |
| 04:48.31 | Sumo- | how do u specificy which is autocast? |
| 04:49.23 | Agouti | flags on the ability |
| 04:49.31 | Agouti | Autocast, Autocast On |
| 04:50.00 | Sumo- | and then how might u turn an ability off when its created? |
| 04:50.30 | Skizot | huh? |
| 04:50.41 | Skizot | you want it to fire just once? |
| 04:50.44 | Sumo- | since i moroph into that unit |
| 04:50.55 | Sumo- | any existing abils i want switched off |
| 04:51.11 | Agouti | just don't have the abilities on the unit it morphs to? |
| 04:51.14 | Sumo- | hmm, maybe if it autocasts its fine |
| 04:51.26 | Agouti | the unit before, and after the morph are totally different units |
| 04:51.40 | Agouti | like Viking ground and viking air |
| 04:51.44 | Sumo- | Agouti: dont think that works |
| 04:51.45 | Agouti | they don't share weapons or abilities |
| 04:51.57 | Sumo- | Agouti: i have not shared units and it still casts em |
| 04:52.07 | Sumo- | maybe its a diff reason |
| 04:52.10 | Sumo- | dunnos |
| 04:52.12 | Agouti | I don't understand what you mean by shared |
| 04:52.16 | Agouti | but I gtg anyway |
| 04:52.18 | Agouti | seeyas |
| 04:52.20 | Sumo- | cheers |
| 04:53.00 | pirate_ | is there any way to have a leaderboard in map where the default UI is hidden? |
| 04:53.08 | Sumo- | my unit is basically an aura tower, im realising that even with the autocast, it wont work out |
| 04:53.22 | Sumo- | it needs to know the aura setting to autocast the right abil |
| 04:54.14 | Sumo- | autocast validator might do it eh |
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| 05:16.39 | Sumo- | how do i have my autocast cast once and then stop |
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| 05:37.37 | onetwo | can i get sc2mapster stock options!!?!? |
| 05:39.00 | onetwo | i guess not |
| 05:41.09 | Sumo- | :/ |
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| 06:20.27 | XenoX101 | halo |
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| 06:25.19 | Skizot | hello |
| 06:25.38 | nolliepoper | yellow |
| 06:28.03 | Agraba | lilly |
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| 06:52.21 | XenoX101 | hey |
| 06:52.46 | XenoX101 | does anyone know why my damage spell is still dealing damage |
| 06:52.53 | XenoX101 | I set attribute factor to "Armored: -1" |
| 06:53.05 | XenoX101 | and it deals damage to the immortal initally |
| 06:53.07 | XenoX101 | initially |
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| 07:10.09 | XenoX101 | actually |
| 07:10.15 | XenoX101 | it seems I cant make it do 0 damage |
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| 07:15.26 | XenoX101 | it operates like armor reduction |
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| 07:22.52 | Saeris | onetwo, you busy? |
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| 07:31.32 | Skizot | FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU |
| 07:34.07 | Skizot | someone PLEASE find me a patch mirror for 1.2 |
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| 07:44.21 | Saeris | vjeux still afk? |
| 07:47.24 | Skizot | always |
| 07:48.07 | Saeris | everyone is afk today |
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| 08:03.21 | NAKarwisch | I have a small issue... I'm making an RPG and on my equpment window, the model for the unit is not centered and is just showing his legs... anyone know what to do to solve that? |
| 08:03.37 | Skizot | oh lawd |
| 08:03.50 | Skizot | i used to know |
| 08:03.58 | Skizot | but i have forgotten it since beta |
| 08:04.07 | NAKarwisch | Snap :< |
| 08:06.13 | NAKarwisch | http://i.imgur.com/0Kwv5.jpg is the issue |
| 08:06.47 | Skizot | it's something in the inventory though |
| 08:06.49 | Helral|Work | is the model size set correctly? (inventory container) |
| 08:07.34 | XenoX101 | does anyone know a way to temporarily give a specific unit (not unit type) an attribute bonus (such as being Armored)? |
| 08:07.48 | Skizot | a behavior? |
| 08:07.59 | XenoX101 | no behaviour works like that |
| 08:08.06 | Skizot | a buff? |
| 08:08.16 | XenoX101 | a buff is a behaviour |
| 08:08.18 | Helral|Work | an unit morph ;p |
| 08:08.24 | XenoX101 | lol |
| 08:08.25 | Skizot | a footprint? |
| 08:08.32 | XenoX101 | unit morph, that'd be largely inefficient |
| 08:08.39 | Helral|Work | yup ;p |
| 08:08.42 | Helral|Work | but it would work ;p |
| 08:08.43 | XenoX101 | I just want to reduce spell damage |
| 08:08.47 | XenoX101 | from particular spells |
| 08:08.52 | XenoX101 | while this ability is on |
| 08:10.52 | NAKarwisch | Going to try and modify the inventory container a little and see if it works. |
| 08:13.09 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 08:13.13 | XenoX101 | how do unit custom values work |
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| 08:17.49 | NAKarwisch | Ugh, I just can't seem to figure it out. Whatever though... >.< |
| 08:21.05 | Helral|Work | NAKarwisch: you define a size somewhere (I think at the inventory container) the model uses that size if I remember correct. |
| 08:32.24 | XenoX101 | hey did you know sentry's guardian shield requires same cliff level? |
| 08:32.43 | XenoX101 | so you cant protect units that are below or above the sentry? |
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| 08:34.17 | XenoX101 | btw I found my answer |
| 08:34.21 | XenoX101 | it is in "Combat - Damage Response" |
| 08:34.30 | XenoX101 | that you can choose damage reduction buffs |
| 08:34.42 | XenoX101 | that are not global |
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| 08:40.14 | XenoX101 | this is actually pretty cool |
| 08:40.25 | XenoX101 | you can choose specific effects and how much or how little damage they do |
| 08:41.08 | XenoX101 | as a fraction or an amount or a combination of both |
| 08:55.40 | XenoX101 | man it really is dead in here |
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| 09:20.33 | Saeris | zzzzz |
| 09:20.47 | Saeris | that new bounty (xp) function doesn't work |
| 09:24.45 | Helral|Work | meows |
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| 09:33.12 | Phaos1 | how would I kill the pathing AI in the move command? |
| 09:33.45 | Phaos1 | in the top down run and gun if I move the mouse position to the other side of a cliff. then the unit while holding a move direction. will attempt to path to mouse |
| 09:33.50 | Phaos1 | this is not desirable |
| 09:34.03 | Phaos1 | if the player wants to run into the cliff they should be allowed |
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| 09:35.27 | used | hey, could someone tell me how to change the colors of units |
| 09:35.56 | used | lie in special forces, where the buffed units have colors |
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| 09:59.53 | Zarakk | Question: |
| 09:59.56 | sanke | NAKarwisch change ur unit model cameras to fix ur problem |
| 10:00.19 | Zarakk | Is there a field where I can choose if a unit should be in the tech glossary thingy in the "info panel" ? |
| 10:00.22 | NAKarwisch | Alright, I'll try that |
| 10:01.00 | Zarakk | "help panel"* |
| 10:01.24 | NAKarwisch | Sanke would that be under Model or Unit editor? |
| 10:01.30 | sanke | model |
| 10:01.47 | Zarakk | gonna check if changing the race category fixes it |
| 10:03.21 | Zarakk | it did not |
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| 10:20.25 | NAKarwisch | sanke Thanks man. That worked. +rep! =p |
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| 10:42.45 | Silv | whats hotkey for watching the map in "ingame modus" again? |
| 10:43.33 | NAKarwisch | v? |
| 10:43.49 | Silv | ya |
| 10:43.49 | Silv | forgot |
| 10:43.50 | Silv | :D |
| 10:43.53 | Silv | mind freeze |
| 10:44.21 | NAKarwisch | :> |
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| 10:46.48 | harl | wuff! |
| 10:58.10 | NAKarwisch | wuff wuff |
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| 13:35.12 | Ousnius | hi^^ |
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| 13:35.27 | Icebane | Hi folks |
| 13:35.53 | Icebane | Am I the only one who had problems with my mods and maps after the patch? |
| 13:36.29 | Ousnius | did someone find out a way to let an unit change its facing angle AND moving at the SAME TIME? |
| 13:36.41 | Ousnius | through triggers |
| 13:37.37 | Icebane | If we are talking moving as in the "move order" I dun think thats possible without turrets. |
| 13:37.50 | Ousnius | move ordner + change facing over 0.2 sec |
| 13:37.53 | Ousnius | order* |
| 13:38.01 | Icebane | To me that seems impossible |
| 13:38.13 | Ousnius | it works wih over 0.0 sec |
| 13:38.13 | Icebane | with triggers |
| 13:38.18 | Ousnius | but I want it to work with 0.2 |
| 13:38.40 | Ousnius | it looks much smoother |
| 13:38.41 | Icebane | but someone did some kind of racing game where the cars was "drifting" |
| 13:39.25 | Icebane | That was simple usage of the data editor tho |
| 13:39.58 | Ousnius | I could.... |
| 13:40.10 | Ousnius | maybe I should change the actors facing but not the units? |
| 13:40.37 | Icebane | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/resources/project-workplace/9455-virtua-sc2-racing/ |
| 13:41.06 | Icebane | I'm not sure if that was made with data or triggers tho. |
| 13:42.24 | Ousnius | mvoe orders |
| 13:42.27 | Ousnius | I opened the mod file |
| 13:42.49 | Icebane | Check out that link I gave you |
| 13:43.28 | Ousnius | LOL |
| 13:43.32 | Ousnius | 20 variables in a row |
| 13:43.33 | Ousnius | XD |
| 13:43.43 | Ousnius | in an action |
| 13:45.13 | Ousnius | lol... |
| 13:45.23 | Ousnius | if there would be a C++ to C# converter |
| 13:45.34 | Ousnius | and a perfect C# to galay converter |
| 13:45.37 | Ousnius | galaxy* |
| 13:45.54 | Ousnius | you could use the code of some games lol^^ if you're havign the source code |
| 13:46.56 | Ousnius | but that wouldn't work ... sadly xD |
| 13:54.59 | Icebane | GOD, what the fuck have happend to all my actors!? <.< |
| 13:56.17 | Icebane | I had been waiting for this patch for weeks now, and the first thing I gotta do is to restore my map.. god damn blizzard.. |
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| 14:10.22 | nodgene | oh hello, if I want to import/export custom art assets into a starcraft map, is the M3 exporter what everyone is using? |
| 14:10.50 | Xaragoth | the one from the tools section, yes |
| 14:10.58 | Xaragoth | it is kinda limited though |
| 14:11.02 | Xaragoth | also |
| 14:11.04 | Xaragoth | http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/7996/unparalulskilljpeg.jpg <- good times |
| 14:12.10 | nialo | such good times |
| 14:12.21 | nialo | so sad that they're gone |
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| 14:12.49 | nodgene | thanks |
| 14:17.25 | Icebane | Does anyone know how to fix the actors in a smooth way now after the patch? |
| 14:17.30 | Icebane | My mods fucked up bigtime... |
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| 14:27.25 | nodgene | think that's an unresolved issue which affects many people icebane |
| 14:27.47 | nodgene | does anyone know where the m3 starcraft files are located, so I can import them into max and have a look at how blizzard made them? |
| 14:28.16 | Skizot | baseassets in the liberty multi |
| 14:28.24 | Icebane | nodgene: omg, I have lost confidence for Blizzards to be called "mod community support" completly... |
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| 14:30.14 | nodgene | skitzot, the base.sc2data file is 14kb? or am I looking in the wrong folder? |
| 14:30.37 | nodgene | 14kb doesn't seem to be the kind of file size I'd expect... |
| 14:30.59 | Helral|Work | nodgene what folder you looking in? |
| 14:30.59 | nodgene | skizot* sorry |
| 14:31.07 | Icebane | Every time Blizzard releases a patch I rage moar <.< |
| 14:31.33 | nodgene | the installed directory, sc2/mods/libertymulti/ |
| 14:31.49 | nodgene | I must be looking in the wrong folder |
| 14:32.13 | Skizot | it's one of the mods |
| 14:32.19 | Skizot | and it's 2-3gigs |
| 14:32.24 | nodgene | I noticed some unusual changes in my map icebane, like command buttons moved about a bit, but not much beyond that as I didn't modify it too heavily. |
| 14:32.44 | nodgene | do I then need to extract that? I imagine? |
| 14:33.03 | nodgene | ah it's in the liberty.sc2mod folder |
| 14:33.52 | Icebane | nodgene: I can't even create a new actor that works properly |
| 14:34.08 | nodgene | with supreme commander you could just extract the main data folder with winzip, is it the same with this? |
| 14:34.17 | nodgene | too bad icebane, I have no idea what to suggest. |
| 14:34.49 | Icebane | nodgene: I dunno either, maybe I should just reinstall the whole friggin game <.< |
| 14:35.07 | nodgene | Don't think that will solve anything, is this a mod or a map file? |
| 14:37.04 | Dustin | http://kotaku.com/5733182/biotechnology-games-let-you-play-with-living-creatures |
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| 14:37.57 | nodgene | icebane |
| 14:38.23 | Icebane | uhm |
| 14:38.26 | Icebane | mod |
| 14:38.50 | Icebane | wait I maybe solved it |
| 14:39.21 | nodgene | right, to my understanding, what has happened is that when blizzard made changes, this changed the IDs of things, like assets, and in doing so, if you have modified things, it will change the order and direction of things that are referenced, so suddenly things are mixed up. I don't believe reinstalling will fix that issue. |
| 14:40.06 | Helral|Work | nodgene: not using the libertymulti mod will prevent a lot of problems :P |
| 14:40.17 | Icebane | oh well, I'll just redo my units and stuff |
| 14:40.27 | Icebane | whats in that mod anyway? |
| 14:40.52 | Helral|Work | libertymulti contains multiplayer balancing stuff. |
| 14:40.54 | nodgene | yees... maybe wiser to use the campaign dependancy |
| 14:41.22 | nodgene | does anyone know how to extract the massive base.sc2assets file? |
| 14:41.22 | nodgene | into its subsiquent components |
| 14:41.36 | Helral|Work | open it with a mpq editor? |
| 14:41.54 | nodgene | mpq? Fist time I've heard this. |
| 14:42.04 | Skizot | LOL |
| 14:42.17 | Skizot | you must be new to blizzard games in general. |
| 14:42.48 | nodgene | I am indeed. |
| 14:42.52 | Helral|Work | first time I used an mpq editor was with d2, renamed a set to contain my nickname ;p |
| 14:42.58 | nodgene | right, downloading a MPQ editor |
| 14:43.10 | nodgene | that is going back a bit |
| 14:43.57 | Skizot | i edited war1 :( |
| 14:44.19 | nodgene | haa |
| 14:44.25 | nodgene | that is going back a bit |
| 14:44.40 | Helral|Work | I edited civ ;p |
| 14:45.39 | nodgene | :D |
| 14:45.54 | nodgene | My editing didn't come around till Tiberian Sun |
| 14:48.52 | Icebane | TIBERIAN SUN <3 ;___________; |
| 14:49.37 | Dustin | Sup guys |
| 14:49.53 | nodgene | hello |
| 14:50.07 | Helral|Work | meows |
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| 14:51.14 | Dustin | lol |
| 14:51.22 | Dustin | I remember MPQing sc1 |
| 14:51.38 | Dustin | I even started a couple mods |
| 14:51.50 | Dustin | I made a Turn Based Battle System in SC1 |
| 14:51.54 | Dustin | It was pretty legit |
| 14:54.40 | nodgene | why does MPQ complain about windows can't open the file base.sc2assets after it's extracted? |
| 14:54.50 | nodgene | do I need to tell it to use the MPQ app? |
| 14:55.52 | tordy | is mephs here |
| 14:55.55 | tordy | damn |
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| 14:56.56 | tordy | Mephs says the bank signatures randomly invalidate |
| 14:57.02 | tordy | anyone else ahve this problem? |
| 14:58.00 | nodgene | I don't quite grasp this, the new MPQ file I've made that's referenced the base.sc2assets file to work with doesn't work when it's done extracting and windows complains about it not knowing what application to use to use it? |
| 14:59.43 | nodgene | anyone? |
| 14:59.50 | nodgene | probabaly a newbie mistake |
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| 15:01.34 | Dustin | Open it with the MPQ Editor |
| 15:01.47 | nodgene | thanks |
| 15:02.04 | Dustin | it's a .sc2assests file, windows doesnt natively know what to do with non standard file formats |
| 15:02.09 | Dustin | So you'll just have to specify |
| 15:02.16 | nodgene | I thought that might be the case |
| 15:03.20 | nodgene | oh excellent, folders |
| 15:05.24 | nodgene | oh mai! It's a marine in 3ds! Thanks :) |
| 15:05.54 | Dustin | :D |
| 15:06.12 | Dustin | I need to figure out these layout things |
| 15:06.20 | nodgene | layout? |
| 15:06.28 | Dustin | the sc2layout files we can change now |
| 15:06.32 | Dustin | Changes the UI |
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| 15:10.26 | nodgene | ah right |
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| 15:20.56 | tordy | hi |
| 15:24.56 | tordy | no problemo |
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| 15:38.22 | tordy | JManV|Work: |
| 15:43.12 | Icebane | Anyone have an idea why my "Defualt Test Map" wont take effect when I change it? It just keeps loading the map I had as default earlier. |
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| 15:45.53 | Dustin | Are you using Test Document launcher from the editor? |
| 15:47.16 | Icebane | if we are talking about the option available in "File>Preferences..>Test Document> Yes |
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| 15:49.28 | Icebane | when I change it to something else it still loads the old map |
| 15:49.49 | doite | Go'day |
| 15:50.04 | Icebane | if I remove the map from the "Maps" folder the game says "Unable to Open Map" when I test it via default test map from my mod |
| 15:50.11 | Icebane | Heya |
| 15:51.59 | Dustin | Well |
| 15:52.10 | Dustin | I think the editor saves your current map in some editortest/ folder |
| 15:52.16 | Dustin | Save, then launch it |
| 15:52.35 | tordy | anyone used bank signatures in their map? |
| 15:52.46 | tordy | aand is your map semi-popular, at least reached top pages? |
| 15:52.59 | tordy | so that you got enough feedback from players |
| 15:53.04 | Icebane | Hahaha, I forgot to write in the file-name suffix as well haha (.SC2Map |
| 15:53.05 | Icebane | ) |
| 15:53.09 | tordy | did their banks get randomly wiped? |
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| 16:18.21 | tordy | hello |
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| 16:19.42 | Clord | >_> |
| 16:24.24 | tordy | hi Clord |
| 16:24.28 | tordy | anyone used bank signatures in their map? |
| 16:24.45 | tordy | mephs says it's randomly invalidating signatures |
| 16:25.00 | tordy | so some players are getting their banks deleted |
| 16:25.07 | tordy | clord, experienced any of this? |
| 16:29.03 | Clord | hi tordy |
| 16:29.04 | Clord | XD |
| 16:29.32 | Ousnius | ehm |
| 16:29.33 | Ousnius | hi tordy |
| 16:29.34 | Ousnius | xD |
| 16:29.48 | tordy | :[ |
| 16:30.28 | Clord | can't confirm yet |
| 16:30.34 | Ousnius | ~seen Otixa |
| 16:30.47 | purl | otixa <~Otixa@87-126-143-97.btc-net.bg> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 22d 22h 40m 27s ago, saying: 'http://www.livestream.com/modcraft'. |
| 16:30.47 | Ousnius | XD |
| 16:30.47 | Clord | have not yet triggered check system ^^ |
| 16:30.47 | Ousnius | eh? |
| 16:30.47 | Clord | I just add signatures at the moment |
| 16:31.07 | tordy | otixa!!!! |
| 16:31.11 | tordy | :[ |
| 16:31.19 | Ousnius | ^--^ |
| 16:31.37 | Clord | it could be server related problem lol |
| 16:31.45 | Clord | signatures are probably matched against server side one |
| 16:31.48 | Clord | based to user |
| 16:32.43 | Dustin | Ok guys |
| 16:32.44 | Dustin | http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127476R |
| 16:32.48 | Dustin | Im getting a new video card :D |
| 16:34.34 | tordy | >:O |
| 16:34.44 | Clord | I have pair of 5770 with passive cooling |
| 16:34.52 | Clord | Gigabyte versions of them |
| 16:35.22 | Clord | of course in CrossfireX mode |
| 16:35.28 | tordy | but arent signatures all procesed clientside |
| 16:35.34 | tordy | so no account info |
| 16:35.37 | tordy | no map id |
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| 16:36.03 | Clord | I don't think it is so weak |
| 16:36.33 | Clord | otherwise very good player or someone played long could just share own bank file and gg..... XD would be rather defeating of purpose |
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| 16:36.56 | tordy | well |
| 16:37.04 | tordy | it generated a signature when i tested the map in galazxy |
| 16:37.07 | Helral | meow |
| 16:37.07 | tordy | wasnt even logged in |
| 16:37.24 | tordy | maybe you should test it right now |
| 16:37.50 | tordy | check to see if the signature generated from testing is verified by the map online |
| 16:38.05 | tordy | Helral: you test it |
| 16:38.17 | tordy | pleeeeeeeeeeeease |
| 16:38.21 | tordy | im not on gaming comp atm |
| 16:38.21 | Helral | test banks and battlenet banks are stored at different locations. |
| 16:38.30 | tordy | just swap em |
| 16:38.39 | Helral | and I'm currently publishing ;p |
| 16:38.45 | tordy | you testin it? |
| 16:38.54 | Clord | online banks use different name to generate them.. aka your online account name |
| 16:38.55 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:38.57 | Helral | no publishing my own map for testing online ;p |
| 16:39.01 | tordy | >:O |
| 16:39.08 | Clord | I can almost guarantee that you can't just copy paste them |
| 16:39.09 | Clord | etf |
| 16:39.10 | Clord | etc |
| 16:39.20 | Helral | will take 3 hours to get it online orso. |
| 16:39.21 | tordy | pray to god |
| 16:39.33 | tordy | unless blizz fucked up again |
| 16:39.44 | Helral | long live GATEWAY_DOWN error |
| 16:39.47 | Helral | :S |
| 16:39.53 | tordy | didnt motive say you could just use duiplicated map |
| 16:40.03 | tordy | to generate a bank |
| 16:40.07 | tordy | and sawp em |
| 16:40.09 | tordy | and it worked |
| 16:40.23 | Clord | that is different.... you are still logged in your account when you generate it in bnet |
| 16:40.40 | Clord | 99% cheaters has no clue of even basics of that stuff so no worries |
| 16:40.41 | Clord | lol |
| 16:41.20 | Clord | anyways.. I always reserve right to be wrong |
| 16:41.24 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:41.31 | tordy | but all it takes is 1 person to teach others! |
| 16:42.08 | tordy | no you dont! |
| 16:42.13 | tordy | you're clord! you're always right :] |
| 16:43.55 | Clord | you know... having no stealth mode or ablity to make alternative names with own friendlists etc |
| 16:43.57 | Clord | is really sucky |
| 16:44.04 | Clord | lol |
| 16:44.08 | tordy | why |
| 16:44.13 | tordy | what are you planning! |
| 16:45.03 | Clord | lol |
| 16:45.31 | Clord | it would be nice "shut up" toggle lol.... I'm trying to enjoy from campaign here ^^ |
| 16:47.01 | tordy | so who wants to try maps |
| 16:47.05 | tordy | the map signature |
| 16:47.26 | Clord | if you really want see if there is difference.. let it create and save empty bank |
| 16:47.39 | Clord | then try via editor and then via online same thing |
| 16:47.41 | Clord | ^^ |
| 16:47.45 | tordy | i cant now |
| 16:47.49 | tordy | that's why i want you test it for me |
| 16:47.56 | tordy | i cant wait i have to know! |
| 16:51.53 | tordy | has anyone made a dynamic tower defense yet? |
| 16:52.06 | tordy | where the paths of enemies change every wave |
| 16:52.14 | tordy | and you can reposition your towers before every wave starts |
| 16:52.26 | tordy | if not i wanna take a stab at it |
| 16:54.09 | tordy | although it's gonna be a pain if there's many towers |
| 16:54.11 | tordy | that's why |
| 16:54.21 | tordy | there's gonna be a catch! |
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| 16:57.42 | Helral | meows |
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| 17:07.40 | Tordy | so anyway |
| 17:07.43 | Tordy | Clord you still there |
| 17:07.58 | Tordy | boop |
| 17:08.00 | Tordy | beep |
| 17:08.00 | Tordy | teset |
| 17:09.59 | Dustin | hi Tordy Browder |
| 17:10.31 | Skizot | nubs |
| 17:12.54 | Tordy | hi Dustin Browder |
| 17:12.56 | Tordy | hi Skizot |
| 17:13.15 | Dustin | Sup Skiz |
| 17:13.47 | Skizot | not much you? |
| 17:14.34 | Ousnius | does the marine have a backwards animation? |
| 17:16.09 | Skizot | backwards? |
| 17:16.23 | Ousnius | walking backwards |
| 17:16.53 | Skizot | no. |
| 17:17.01 | Ousnius | ---.--- |
| 17:17.03 | Skizot | but it doesn't sound all that hard really. |
| 17:17.29 | Ousnius | would you do it? |
| 17:17.31 | Ousnius | ^-^ |
| 17:17.31 | Ousnius | xD |
| 17:20.24 | Dustin | Just workin |
| 17:20.32 | Skizot | :| |
| 17:20.32 | Skizot | :? |
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| 17:21.58 | Helral | meows |
| 17:22.12 | Dustin | RAWR |
| 17:22.15 | Ousnius | well a marine walking backwards with that silly forwards animation doesn't look that...good |
| 17:22.32 | Dustin | Can't you play an animation backwards |
| 17:22.37 | Ousnius | nope |
| 17:22.45 | Ousnius | I don't think so |
| 17:23.15 | Dustin | Just export, open in 3dsmax, reverse the animation and then reimport |
| 17:23.23 | Ousnius | without 3dsmax? |
| 17:23.25 | Ousnius | :P |
| 17:23.27 | Dustin | Im gonna have to do some of that here for my spells |
| 17:23.31 | Dustin | Go get 3dsmax :P |
| 17:23.47 | Ousnius | ~_~ too lazy |
| 17:23.48 | Ousnius | xD |
| 17:24.02 | nodgene | Then no animation for you |
| 17:24.24 | Ousnius | BLOARGH! *lau0r face* |
| 17:24.30 | Ousnius | laz0r* |
| 17:24.36 | Dustin | lol fail |
| 17:24.42 | Helral | meows |
| 17:25.27 | Dustin | Stop meowing! |
| 17:25.32 | Ousnius | meow |
| 17:25.32 | Ousnius | xD |
| 17:25.33 | Dustin | What are you a duck? |
| 17:25.58 | nodgene | dustin, you got max? |
| 17:26.06 | Dustin | On my Desktop at home |
| 17:26.12 | Dustin | Im on my lappy at work atm |
| 17:26.33 | nodgene | you do much 3d? |
| 17:26.49 | Helral | Dustin: meow |
| 17:27.20 | Dustin | Not really, I mean I've dabbeled and can get my way around stuff but I dont do any advanced modeling |
| 17:27.39 | Dustin | I try to do to much shit myself |
| 17:27.54 | nodgene | kk, would you like to see something I've done recently? It's not really starcraft related, but I want to see what people who arn't friends think. |
| 17:28.03 | Dustin | sure |
| 17:28.18 | doite | Dustin, is there any way to make (in behavior buff) so you cant "PUSH" a unit to the side if another goes by |
| 17:28.30 | doite | what i mean i want them to "hold position" no matter what |
| 17:28.44 | nodgene | herlo doite :D |
| 17:28.45 | doite | Maybe set seperation radius to 0 or something |
| 17:28.49 | doite | hey noddy |
| 17:28.54 | Dustin | Hmmm |
| 17:29.03 | Dustin | I know their is an alliance setting to disallow pushing |
| 17:29.16 | nodgene | http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4564/final01n.jpg |
| 17:29.17 | doite | ill check |
| 17:29.21 | Dustin | I havent seen anything in a behavior, but check around on the Modification+ field |
| 17:29.55 | Dustin | nodgene, is that just placement of pre-made models or did you do all of that? |
| 17:30.07 | nodgene | Did it from scratch. |
| 17:30.11 | Ousnius | ... |
| 17:30.14 | Ousnius | ur awsum |
| 17:30.14 | Ousnius | xD |
| 17:30.26 | Dustin | very nice, looks sick |
| 17:30.45 | nodgene | Glad you approve :) I used a Vray plugin for more realistic lighting, it does pay off. |
| 17:30.46 | doite | Hmm |
| 17:30.47 | Ousnius | o.O that should be my room |
| 17:30.55 | doite | dont say i can find anything |
| 17:31.02 | Dustin | Yeah I love the lighting on that |
| 17:31.07 | doite | Its very important units dont push them away from their spot |
| 17:31.23 | nodgene | painting obviously I can't take credit for... that was done by an artist in the late 1890s or so |
| 17:31.24 | doite | So theres nothing i can do so they just walk right trough? |
| 17:31.30 | Dustin | Trigger |
| 17:31.33 | doite | through* |
| 17:31.39 | Dustin | Set Alliance Allied disallow pushing |
| 17:31.46 | Dustin | Nothing per unit based I guess |
| 17:31.56 | doite | Well its not for alliance units |
| 17:32.02 | Dustin | Yeah |
| 17:32.09 | Ousnius | then |
| 17:32.10 | Ousnius | Radius = 0 |
| 17:32.27 | Ousnius | they will be "passable" then |
| 17:32.28 | Dustin | Not sure how the push checks |
| 17:32.38 | Dustin | Try what Ousnius said and see if that works |
| 17:32.44 | Ousnius | I know it works |
| 17:32.46 | Dustin | Just make a behvaior that changes the units radius |
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| 17:32.47 | Ousnius | I did it 5 sec ago |
| 17:32.48 | Ousnius | XD |
| 17:32.49 | Dustin | I think that's possible |
| 17:32.54 | Dustin | k, then use that :P |
| 17:33.08 | Ousnius | you can use a behaviour |
| 17:33.10 | doite | Hmm |
| 17:33.11 | doite | Ok |
| 17:33.12 | Ousnius | buff behaviour |
| 17:33.17 | Ousnius | which disables collision |
| 17:33.19 | doite | Radius you say.. |
| 17:33.20 | Ousnius | theres an entry for that |
| 17:33.27 | Ousnius | in "Modification -> Behaviour" |
| 17:35.25 | Skizot | Ousnius |
| 17:35.26 | Skizot | done. |
| 17:35.33 | Skizot | compiling a model now |
| 17:35.37 | Ousnius | <3 |
| 17:35.39 | Skizot | use Walk Cover for reverse |
| 17:35.52 | Ousnius | okay |
| 17:36.02 | doite | Ousnius |
| 17:36.11 | doite | Cant find it in behaviours |
| 17:36.20 | Ousnius | actually you could upload it to mapster |
| 17:36.23 | Ousnius | for everyone to use |
| 17:36.25 | Ousnius | skizot |
| 17:36.34 | Ousnius | many need backwards anims |
| 17:36.34 | Skizot | meh |
| 17:36.44 | Skizot | i didn't do it for EVERYONE. |
| 17:36.48 | Skizot | now did i? |
| 17:36.52 | Dustin | hehe |
| 17:36.55 | Dustin | He's such a sweetie |
| 17:36.57 | Ousnius | you don't need to |
| 17:36.59 | Ousnius | :P |
| 17:37.01 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/Marine_REVERSEWALK%28WALKCOVER%29.m3 |
| 17:37.12 | Ousnius | doite |
| 17:37.13 | Skizot | plus hey |
| 17:37.17 | doite | yar |
| 17:37.23 | Skizot | i learned the easy way to reverse animations! |
| 17:37.33 | Ousnius | Buff Behaviour Data->Modification->Behaviour Tab |
| 17:37.56 | Ousnius | :P |
| 17:37.57 | doite | Im in there |
| 17:38.04 | Ousnius | the nsearch |
| 17:38.04 | doite | But really, what am i looking for? |
| 17:38.07 | Ousnius | it's there 200% |
| 17:38.14 | Ousnius | something to disable collision |
| 17:38.17 | Ousnius | wait |
| 17:38.56 | doite | Ehm |
| 17:39.12 | doite | Theres no 200% thing in behaviours tab mate, or maybe im stupid |
| 17:39.28 | Ousnius | ok it's called "Supress Collision" |
| 17:39.30 | Ousnius | lol :D |
| 17:39.34 | doite | Ahh.. |
| 17:39.36 | doite | Thanks=) |
| 17:40.36 | Ousnius | in "Status Identifications" list |
| 17:40.43 | Ousnius | scroll down a lil bit |
| 17:40.47 | Ousnius | then Supress Collision |
| 17:41.03 | Ousnius | apply the behaviour through triggers whenever you dont want collision |
| 17:41.17 | Ousnius | or through whatever you wanna apply it XD |
| 17:42.00 | doite | Perfect ousnius |
| 17:42.01 | doite | worked! |
| 17:42.02 | doite | =) |
| 17:42.06 | doite | Thanks man |
| 17:42.44 | Ousnius | I used the same for my jump trigger :P |
| 17:42.49 | doite | There.. im done with terran team.. |
| 17:42.56 | doite | Now its just zerg and protoss units left |
| 17:43.00 | Ousnius | jumpin over units XD |
| 17:43.10 | doite | Then ... a shop... some heroes.... and alot of things i guess =( |
| 17:43.28 | Ousnius | doite you did Resident Overmind right? |
| 17:43.46 | doite | Nope, i made Resident Evil: extinction |
| 17:43.48 | doite | The other is... |
| 17:43.52 | doite | Someone else, forgot |
| 17:43.57 | Ousnius | oh :P |
| 17:43.58 | Ousnius | nvm |
| 17:44.48 | Ousnius | it's s3rius |
| 17:45.33 | doite | Yea |
| 17:45.36 | doite | Exactly |
| 17:45.53 | Sumo- | hey guys |
| 17:46.11 | doite | Mine is -> Resident evil 5, hes is the old series |
| 17:46.31 | doite | But mine was more a try for third person mode that became popular |
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| 17:57.51 | Ousnius | wtf Skizot |
| 17:58.05 | Ousnius | I imported your model |
| 17:58.13 | Ousnius | added it to the space marine model data |
| 17:58.15 | Ousnius | saved |
| 17:58.17 | Ousnius | restartet editor |
| 17:58.27 | Ousnius | but white spheres all over the place |
| 17:58.41 | Sumo- | did u load the texture after restarting the editor after adding the m3? |
| 17:58.54 | Ousnius | previewer works |
| 17:58.58 | Ousnius | theres no texture |
| 17:58.58 | Sumo- | ah |
| 17:59.11 | Ousnius | it uses sc2's ones |
| 18:01.03 | Ousnius | LOL!! |
| 18:01.10 | Ousnius | the model files name was too long |
| 18:01.12 | Ousnius | ... |
| 18:03.16 | Sumo- | gays |
| 18:09.13 | Skizot | haha |
| 18:09.40 | Skizot | i just named it that so i can remember wtf it is. |
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| 18:27.06 | Tordy | testing |
| 18:27.26 | Skizot | failing |
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| 18:43.55 | Ousnius | maaan |
| 18:44.16 | Ousnius | why can't I play a walk animation while an unit performs a walk order |
| 18:44.23 | Ousnius | I can play .g. attack animations fine |
| 18:44.31 | Tordy | hello |
| 18:44.36 | Ousnius | but all aniamtions which ahve somethign to do with walking don't work..while walking |
| 18:44.50 | Ousnius | e.g.* |
| 18:46.41 | Skizot | whaa? |
| 18:47.59 | Ousnius | unit walks -> + attack anim = works |
| 18:48.12 | Ousnius | unit walks -> +slow walk anim/backwards anim = doesnt work |
| 18:49.29 | Skizot | using triggers or data? |
| 18:50.11 | Ousnius | triggers |
| 18:50.23 | Ousnius | I want to change the anim to backwards walking |
| 18:50.41 | Ousnius | when having the mvoement angle -180° to te mouse pos |
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| 18:50.57 | Ousnius | means anim should change to backwards when moving...well backwards |
| 18:51.04 | Ousnius | when I use the attack anim it works |
| 18:51.14 | Ousnius | but all "walk anims" don't work |
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| 18:52.00 | Skizot | try just walk? |
| 18:52.38 | Ousnius | when I use e.g. your animation it uses the normal walk animation |
| 18:52.50 | Ousnius | for "slow" too |
| 18:53.08 | Ousnius | it's like it ignores those animations while walking |
| 18:53.36 | Skizot | are you putting in a custom value? |
| 18:53.51 | Skizot | or using walk in the top dropdown and cover in the second? |
| 18:53.57 | Ousnius | yes |
| 18:54.07 | Ousnius | "slow" doesn't even need to use "walk" |
| 18:54.12 | Ousnius | and it does still not work |
| 18:55.57 | Ousnius | Skizot try it |
| 18:56.06 | Ousnius | make a new map |
| 18:56.13 | Ousnius | and play the animation "slow" while moving a unit |
| 18:56.17 | Ousnius | it wont work -.- |
| 18:56.31 | Skizot | it has to be "Walk Slow" |
| 18:56.32 | Ousnius | and if you try it with "atatck" |
| 18:56.34 | Ousnius | it will work |
| 18:56.41 | Ousnius | slow works too |
| 18:56.43 | Ousnius | walk slow is the same |
| 18:56.47 | Ousnius | I tried |
| 18:56.47 | Skizot | cover won't |
| 18:56.48 | Ousnius | ^^ |
| 18:56.58 | Skizot | as there IS a cover animation |
| 18:56.59 | Ousnius | yep but Walk Cover doesnt work tooootototoot |
| 18:57.29 | Ousnius | doesn't have something to do with your anim or my triggers |
| 18:57.31 | Ousnius | it's sc2 -.- |
| 18:58.50 | Skizot | give me an alternate name then |
| 18:59.05 | Skizot | attack walk |
| 18:59.06 | Skizot | ? |
| 18:59.23 | Ousnius | attack variant 50 |
| 18:59.28 | Ousnius | mhm |
| 18:59.29 | Ousnius | 05 |
| 18:59.34 | Skizot | seriously? |
| 18:59.37 | Ousnius | yea XD |
| 19:00.00 | Ousnius | cause "walk" is bad -.- |
| 19:00.28 | Skizot | Attack Variant 05 |
| 19:00.29 | Skizot | ? |
| 19:00.33 | Ousnius | y |
| 19:02.13 | Skizot | same link |
| 19:02.17 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/Marine_REVERSEWALK%28WALKCOVER%29.m3 |
| 19:07.57 | Ousnius | did you forget to export animations? oO |
| 19:08.07 | Skizot | no? |
| 19:08.07 | Ousnius | file is 300 kb smaller |
| 19:08.11 | Ousnius | than the first 1 |
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| 19:08.26 | Skizot | optimised! |
| 19:09.20 | Ousnius | cause their animatiosn dont work -.- |
| 19:09.21 | Ousnius | none of them |
| 19:09.32 | Skizot | wtf |
| 19:09.38 | Ousnius | not even the stand animation |
| 19:09.38 | Ousnius | XD |
| 19:09.59 | Skizot | BWAHAHAHA |
| 19:10.07 | Skizot | it didn't import any animations XD |
| 19:10.14 | Ousnius | dayum |
| 19:10.15 | Ousnius | XD |
| 19:10.39 | Skizot | i have to remake it :/ |
| 19:11.15 | Ousnius | gives Skizot some cookies |
| 19:12.34 | Ousnius | jumping white spheres look funny... |
| 19:14.22 | Ousnius | I hope it'll work with Attack Variant 05 |
| 19:14.25 | Ousnius | if not.... |
| 19:14.53 | Ousnius | damn then I'm sad |
| 19:14.53 | Ousnius | XD |
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| 19:31.35 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/Marine_REVERSEWALK%28WALKCOVER%29.m3 |
| 19:31.38 | Skizot | try that Ousnius |
| 19:31.43 | Vexal | Is anyone else having problems changing the color of text in maps? |
| 19:32.14 | Tordy | i noticed a few of my colors broke |
| 19:32.17 | Tordy | text colors |
| 19:32.19 | Tordy | anyway |
| 19:32.21 | Vexal | i keep trying to fix it |
| 19:32.27 | Vexal | but it reverts back to broken |
| 19:32.31 | Tordy | does anyone know how to cap damage from modify hp? |
| 19:33.03 | Tordy | like say an attack deals 10% of a unit's max life |
| 19:33.10 | Tordy | but the attack deals at most 1000 damage |
| 19:33.31 | Tordy | in the case where the unit has more than 10k life, the attack will only deal 1000 damage |
| 19:33.42 | Lilianna | use an Effect Switch |
| 19:33.54 | Lilianna | with a validator on life |
| 19:33.55 | Tordy | >:) |
| 19:33.59 | Tordy | >>>>:) |
| 19:34.10 | Tordy | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>:) |
| 19:34.56 | Ousnius | Skizot |
| 19:35.00 | Ousnius | it's playing the attack animation now |
| 19:35.01 | Ousnius | --.-- |
| 19:35.10 | Xaragoth | Tordy... |
| 19:35.13 | Xaragoth | SHUT THE FUCK UP |
| 19:35.14 | Xaragoth | ^^ |
| 19:35.19 | Ousnius | seems like Attack is form variant 0 to 100 -.- |
| 19:35.24 | Tordy | :( |
| 19:35.25 | Vexal | how do i sort sublists in the data editor by alphabetical order. it used to sort them for me but since the patch came, it doesn't. |
| 19:35.53 | Ousnius | Skizot |
| 19:36.00 | Ousnius | I'm using te immortal model now... |
| 19:36.01 | Ousnius | the* |
| 19:36.04 | Ousnius | it has a turret |
| 19:36.06 | Ousnius | I can use that |
| 19:38.36 | Skizot | ......... |
| 19:38.53 | Ousnius | lol sorry.. I dont want to waste more time in that stupid shit -.- |
| 19:38.57 | Skizot | pick another name? |
| 19:39.29 | Skizot | it's easier to fix now.. i haven't close the file |
| 19:39.41 | Skizot | what about spell? |
| 19:39.55 | Ousnius | use |
| 19:39.59 | Ousnius | "Back" |
| 19:40.06 | Ousnius | it's empty |
| 19:40.07 | Skizot | back works? |
| 19:40.12 | Ousnius | dunno |
| 19:40.14 | Ousnius | but its empty |
| 19:40.26 | Skizot | is back an option in the dropdown? |
| 19:40.49 | Ousnius | y |
| 19:41.29 | Skizot | because i asked you douche. |
| 19:41.30 | Skizot | :P |
| 19:42.04 | Skizot | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7102389/Sc2/Marine_REVERSEWALK%28WALKCOVER%29.m3 |
| 19:42.09 | Skizot | try dat one |
| 19:43.34 | Ousnius | wait... |
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| 19:53.25 | Ousnius | erm... |
| 19:53.51 | Ousnius | how to face a immortals turret actor?? |
| 19:54.07 | Ousnius | only the turret |
| 19:54.13 | Ousnius | actor message doesnt work |
| 19:54.35 | Skizot | :/ |
| 19:54.41 | Skizot | did "back" no work? |
| 19:54.51 | Ousnius | I will try your mdoel after that immortal turret thing |
| 19:55.21 | Ousnius | I could create a invisible dummy |
| 19:55.25 | Ousnius | and let the immortal attack it |
| 19:55.28 | Ousnius | for 0.0001 secs |
| 19:55.28 | Ousnius | xD |
| 19:55.30 | Skizot | no. |
| 19:55.40 | Skizot | there is a send actor message to face a point |
| 19:55.46 | Ousnius | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:55.50 | Ousnius | but it didnt work for the turret |
| 19:56.02 | Ousnius | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:56.11 | Skizot | i wish you could aim BONES. |
| 19:56.17 | Ousnius | lol |
| 19:56.25 | Skizot | you could in war3 |
| 19:56.28 | Skizot | why remove it? |
| 19:56.39 | Ousnius | ^^ |
| 19:57.02 | Skizot | i had a trigger that made all workers on a map go excorcist. |
| 20:02.42 | Vexal | is anyone having problems with the data editor since the patch? |
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| 20:11.11 | Clord | lol.................. |
| 20:11.20 | Clord | dumym and people wonder what it attacks |
| 20:11.22 | Clord | ^^ |
| 20:11.41 | Clord | dummy... |
| 20:12.03 | Ousnius | treid it |
| 20:12.05 | Ousnius | tried* |
| 20:12.07 | Ousnius | doesn't work |
| 20:12.08 | Ousnius | -.- xD |
| 20:12.23 | Ousnius | I think I tried facing a turret months ago |
| 20:12.28 | Ousnius | and didnt success |
| 20:12.32 | Ousnius | argh....that's so bad |
| 20:12.43 | Clord | WCIII "turrets" was way more balanced |
| 20:12.52 | Clord | expect in that case they was always units |
| 20:13.12 | Clord | they didn't care if they was turned enough |
| 20:13.14 | Clord | they shot anyway |
| 20:13.15 | Clord | ^^ |
| 20:13.33 | Ousnius | HOW |
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| 20:13.37 | Ousnius | CAN I FACE |
| 20:13.41 | Ousnius | A TURRET?!??! |
| 20:13.44 | Ousnius | ...XD |
| 20:13.57 | Clord | another unbalanced element lol |
| 20:14.04 | Clord | other player has advantage |
| 20:14.09 | Clord | since turret faces more likely elsewhere |
| 20:14.10 | Clord | than other |
| 20:14.12 | Skizot | turrets were buildings in war3. |
| 20:14.18 | Clord | indeed =) |
| 20:14.40 | Clord | but in the end they was units with building toggle set to true |
| 20:14.41 | Clord | lol |
| 20:15.48 | Skizot | basically |
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| 20:23.45 | mattavich | guys |
| 20:23.50 | Lilianna | no |
| 20:24.01 | mattavich | how can i detect a players name on a map? |
| 20:24.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster slightlyrandom (~random@195.184.100.58) |
| 20:24.27 | mattavich | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.33 | mattavich | i cant find the strong for it here |
| 20:24.40 | mattavich | obviously it is not chat string |
| 20:25.03 | Skizot | it shouldn't be an integer. |
| 20:25.14 | Skizot | what do you need the name for? |
| 20:25.28 | Kueken | you want to compare player names? |
| 20:25.36 | mattavich | no |
| 20:25.48 | slightlyrandom | PickedPlayer is an integer |
| 20:25.48 | mattavich | i want to detect if an asshole is on my map called hannibal |
| 20:26.00 | slightlyrandom | You need to grab the name of the player |
| 20:26.00 | Kueken | you, sir, are out of luck |
| 20:26.04 | mattavich | yeah i was thinking fo comparing the pickedplayer to the strong for their name |
| 20:26.11 | mattavich | and is one = hannibal then do some actions |
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| 20:26.16 | Kueken | well |
| 20:26.17 | mattavich | string* |
| 20:26.23 | Kueken | you cannot compare player names |
| 20:26.30 | Kueken | because they are text |
| 20:26.34 | mattavich | yeah but |
| 20:26.35 | slightlyrandom | You can display it, but you can't compare it |
| 20:26.36 | Kueken | and you cannot compare text |
| 20:26.50 | mattavich | how can i retreive playernames then? |
| 20:26.54 | slightlyrandom | You can't |
| 20:26.58 | mattavich | that sucks |
| 20:27.00 | slightlyrandom | Not for anything useful |
| 20:27.04 | mattavich | you cna do ti with eladerboards |
| 20:27.06 | Kueken | so basically, you have no possibility to see, if an asshole called hannibal plays your game |
| 20:27.10 | slightlyrandom | Apart from displaying the name, in leaderboards and the like |
| 20:27.11 | mattavich | damn typos |
| 20:27.23 | mattavich | maybe i can compare leaderboard names |
| 20:27.27 | slightlyrandom | nope |
| 20:27.37 | slightlyrandom | Player names are Text, and you can't do much of anything with text |
| 20:27.46 | Kueken | blizzard will eventually patch a function to get a player name as string |
| 20:27.51 | Kueken | then you can do it |
| 20:27.54 | Kueken | until then |
| 20:27.56 | Kueken | not a chance |
| 20:35.26 | HELLYA | Hey guys I found a issue with my map after patch 1.2 |
| 20:36.04 | mattavich | so did i |
| 20:36.08 | mattavich | some white text turned green |
| 20:36.08 | HELLYA | For some reason my rally has a miniumum range if you're selecting the ground but not when you select a unit |
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| 20:39.36 | Stewox | .1.2 patch , custom games popularity system sucks more as it ever did |
| 20:39.47 | Stewox | 0.1.2 ... |
| 20:40.08 | Ousnius | how to set up an ability which faces an units turret like a normal weapon would? |
| 20:40.09 | Helral | meows |
| 20:40.16 | Ousnius | ... I'm soon gettign really crazy XD |
| 20:40.17 | mattavich | it is weird |
| 20:40.28 | mattavich | my map seems to go top of the list |
| 20:40.35 | mattavich | then 5 minutes later the bottom |
| 20:40.41 | mattavich | then the top again |
| 20:40.44 | mattavich | etc etc |
| 20:41.24 | mattavich | no idea sorry ous |
| 20:42.43 | Skizot | 1.7mb left on the FIFTH attempt to get this stupid patch |
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| 20:51.15 | Helral | that bad Skizot? |
| 20:51.51 | Saeris | man, i'm exhausted |
| 20:51.52 | Skizot | i still don't have 1,2 sc2 |
| 20:52.00 | Saeris | but i still shouldn't go to bed yet |
| 20:52.02 | Saeris | >.< |
| 20:52.06 | Skizot | it stopped with 134kb left |
| 20:52.22 | Helral | .... |
| 20:52.37 | Hati | poor Skizot :( |
| 20:53.03 | Helral | hmmm my map still refuses to be published :( |
| 20:53.28 | Hati | reason? |
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| 20:54.02 | Helral | GATEWAY_DOWN not that it means anything. |
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| 20:54.27 | Hati | well GATEWAY_DOWN is reasonable |
| 20:54.32 | Hati | to not being able to publish :o |
| 20:57.42 | Stewox | Skizot , are you .... stupid ? |
| 20:57.49 | Stewox | http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/23586/StarCraft+2:+Wings+of+Liberty+Upgrade+Patch+1.2.0+%28Windows%29+-+English+%28GB%29 |
| 20:58.06 | Stewox | i gave you links like 5 times infront of the nose now |
| 20:58.27 | Helral | Stewox: maybe Skizot needs EnUS? |
| 20:58.39 | Stewox | why doesn't he says so for like 10 min |
| 20:58.53 | Stewox | http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/23583/StarCraft+2:+Wings+of+Liberty+Upgrade+Patch+1.2.0+%28Windows%29+-+English+%28US%29 |
| 20:58.59 | Stewox | http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/67098 |
| 20:59.00 | Helral | lol |
| 20:59.01 | Stewox | noob ? |
| 20:59.44 | Helral | meow? |
| 21:00.00 | Helral | maybe Skizot is like me ;p |
| 21:00.01 | Hati | wuff |
| 21:00.01 | Helral | lazy |
| 21:00.03 | Stewox | I had to give the direct download linke , he could't find it in the shacknews article |
| 21:00.45 | Stewox | well , that happens if you're ragedownloading and it still doesn't work :D |
| 21:00.54 | Stewox | anyways no bigge |
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| 21:02.44 | mattavich | fellas |
| 21:03.05 | mattavich | i want to make a variable which holds about 10 types of units with which i can use in a condition |
| 21:03.08 | mattavich | is that possible |
| 21:03.26 | mattavich | so, zerglings, infested marines, roaches would go into it |
| 21:03.57 | mattavich | this saves me from making about 20 conditions for one action i want to make |
| 21:04.20 | Hati | hmm |
| 21:04.21 | mattavich | anyone know how to do this>? |
| 21:04.32 | Hati | only would know array or record |
| 21:04.42 | Hati | but that wouldn't help you |
| 21:04.59 | mattavich | bah |
| 21:05.23 | mattavich | i want to avoid this basically |
| 21:05.24 | mattavich | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:05.41 | mattavich | i thought maybe using a variable would hlep performance since this is in the "unit dies" event trigger |
| 21:05.59 | Hati | how about simple Unit Dies == ? |
| 21:06.12 | mattavich | my map gets a little low performance near the end of the game |
| 21:06.21 | Hati | you could also build a queue |
| 21:06.24 | Hati | system |
| 21:06.35 | Hati | i guess i know why your performance is suffering |
| 21:06.40 | Hati | if you kill multiple at once |
| 21:06.43 | Hati | it starts lagging |
| 21:06.48 | Hati | so queues would help |
| 21:06.51 | mattavich | well in my experience one event with a super long trigger is actually a lot less intensive than several events with short triggers |
| 21:07.08 | mattavich | the main source of the lag is timers |
| 21:07.12 | mattavich | i have 17 timers running |
| 21:07.25 | Hati | well but your super long trigger is firing 100 times if you kill 100 units at once |
| 21:07.32 | mattavich | yeah |
| 21:07.34 | Hati | so queuing each trigger |
| 21:07.41 | Hati | and executing them afterwards makes it more fluid |
| 21:08.03 | mattavich | ive nto used them before |
| 21:08.10 | Hati | so you execute 5 "functions" per 0.33s instead of all 100 in 0.1s |
| 21:08.59 | Hati | dunno if it is possible to build an easy-queue struct in galaxy however |
| 21:09.33 | mattavich | there are functions which are for queues |
| 21:09.34 | mattavich | hmmm |
| 21:10.11 | mattavich | basically, do I just add my If then else statements under the Queue action tree? |
| 21:10.24 | mattavich | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:10.41 | mattavich | i need to google a guide on this to us eit right |
| 21:11.58 | Hati | i think ActionQueue is something else |
| 21:12.04 | Hati | thats the shift+click stuff iirc |
| 21:12.30 | Saeris | i've been mapping for about 20 hours straight now |
| 21:12.43 | Saeris | >.< |
| 21:13.29 | Saeris | i should get a medal for such dedication |
| 21:14.15 | mattavich | lol |
| 21:14.17 | Ousnius | me 2 |
| 21:14.18 | Ousnius | XD |
| 21:14.34 | Ousnius | but I was fixing bugs since 16 of 20 |
| 21:14.38 | Ousnius | all I fixed was |
| 21:14.47 | Ousnius | ... |
| 21:14.57 | Ousnius | wait I didn't find a solution for anything XD |
| 21:15.28 | mattavich | the main source of lag is my 17 timers. in late game, nearly all are switched on |
| 21:15.32 | mattavich | and this begins to lag |
| 21:15.45 | mattavich | do you know of any way to increase performance of timmers |
| 21:15.51 | mattavich | or lessen their effect? |
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| 21:16.08 | Saeris | i...... fixed my experience bug over 10 hours ago, retrofitted my dialogs from an old map to this one about 16 hours ago |
| 21:16.24 | Saeris | just got some auto-leveling towers working |
| 21:16.58 | Saeris | added all the towers to my builder..... added in hooks for displaying waves as boss bars, and dynamically generated tips |
| 21:17.06 | Saeris | um..... |
| 21:17.13 | Saeris | a whole lot of other features i had on my list |
| 21:17.46 | Saeris | but so far it's all been features and technical stuff |
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| 21:17.57 | Saeris | i haven't even begun to pretty up my terrain |
| 21:18.12 | Saeris | guess i'll be doing that last |
| 21:18.19 | Saeris | once everything else is working correctly |
| 21:18.39 | Saeris | terrain always goes by the fastest anyways |
| 21:19.54 | Saeris | i'm kinda not looking forward to reviewing all the sounds in the game for which funny lines i want to play at random at the beginning of each new wave |
| 21:20.50 | Saeris | but seeing as that's one of the features that really made me enjoy the TD this one is based off of back in WC3.... i really aught to do it |
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| 21:24.13 | Hati | mattavich: increase performance => lower frequency |
| 21:25.12 | mattavich | there's a few posts on the forum about timers lagging |
| 21:25.30 | mattavich | and a few ppl say that using "wait" and loop actually helped |
| 21:25.41 | mattavich | it si difficult for me to cut down on the timers |
| 21:29.45 | Ousnius | do all these timers have a timer window? |
| 21:29.54 | Ousnius | I mean |
| 21:29.59 | Ousnius | do tehy have a variable somewhere |
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| 21:36.34 | mattavich | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/17251-periodic-timer-lag-help/ |
| 21:36.40 | mattavich | not sure |
| 21:36.49 | Dustin | timers laggy and waits not? |
| 21:36.56 | Dustin | Wtf is blizzard doing, reversing shit from WC3? |
| 21:36.57 | mattavich | that's what i heard |
| 21:37.05 | mattavich | i dno if it is true |
| 21:37.14 | Dustin | Casue it was exactly the opposite in wc3 lol |
| 21:37.33 | Dustin | I'm pretty sure timers are fine |
| 21:37.42 | mattavich | they definately cause lag in my map |
| 21:37.48 | mattavich | i've had the same problem in other maps too |
| 21:38.05 | mattavich | having 17 running at different intervals is a bitch |
| 21:38.43 | Dustin | Hmmm |
| 21:39.12 | Dustin | Are they just timers running or are they executing code each interval? |
| 21:39.23 | mattavich | code |
| 21:39.28 | mattavich | 3.6 real time seconds |
| 21:39.30 | mattavich | another 5.7 |
| 21:39.34 | mattavich | another 20 |
| 21:39.39 | Dustin | That shouldnt be a problem at all |
| 21:39.40 | mattavich | they create units |
| 21:40.15 | Dustin | I run timers for each players cooldowns, .065 timers for a bunch of other stuff and they arent causing any lag |
| 21:40.46 | mattavich | oh, i mean the periodic timer event sorry |
| 21:40.50 | mattavich | not variable timers |
| 21:41.01 | mattavich | i have 17 triggers with periodic timer to execute |
| 21:41.36 | Hati | dumdumdummmmmmmm |
| 21:41.40 | Dustin | Yeah |
| 21:41.42 | Dustin | Same |
| 21:42.03 | Hati | forgot to import campaign datas and wondered where all the campaign stuff were ... |
| 21:42.30 | mattavich | lol |
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| 21:54.27 | Sumo- | im having trouble with a weapon attack direction, i have unit ( a dragon ) and i added a copy of swanns betty flame weapon to the dragon, and its attack actor, and set the unit turret to the free one, and when the dragon attacks, it attacks sideways... what do i need to change to get it to fire fowards/at target? |
| 22:02.24 | Hati | remove the turret ? |
| 22:02.40 | Sumo- | i tried that, no difference? |
| 22:02.47 | Sumo- | i'll try once more quickly |
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| 22:03.21 | QueenGambit | anyone here? |
| 22:03.28 | slightlyrandom | :P |
| 22:03.29 | Hati | yup |
| 22:03.34 | Sumo- | indeed |
| 22:04.16 | Hati | worked? |
| 22:04.21 | QueenGambit | yay i has a quesion |
| 22:04.36 | Dustin | No questions here! |
| 22:04.44 | QueenGambit | which trigger allows the creation of a menu like in Star Battle? |
| 22:04.46 | Dustin | This channle is specifically for porn sharing |
| 22:04.47 | Sumo- | without the turret it attacks sideways still :( |
| 22:04.51 | Hati | Formular A20X |
| 22:04.53 | QueenGambit | or the dota map where u select the heroes |
| 22:04.57 | Hati | has to be filled to ask questions :O |
| 22:05.04 | Dustin | QueenGambit, it's Dialogs |
| 22:05.23 | Hati | Sumo-: can you screenshot weapondata? |
| 22:05.27 | Hati | or pastey it |
| 22:05.28 | Sumo- | sure |
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| 22:07.32 | Sumo- | http://i54.tinypic.com/2a97e2p.png |
| 22:07.46 | Hati | Arc Slop max 11 |
| 22:08.19 | mattavich | is it easy to create a behaviour which will spawn units every 5 seconds while applied to something? |
| 22:08.37 | Sumo- | arc slop to 11, still sideways |
| 22:08.38 | Hati | yup |
| 22:08.51 | mattavich | that's the solution someone has given me |
| 22:09.02 | mattavich | use behaviours rather than triggers to create the units |
| 22:09.07 | Sumo- | mattavich: im interested in that behavior too :P |
| 22:09.12 | Hati | with removed turret - Sumo- ? |
| 22:09.17 | Sumo- | yeah with removed turret |
| 22:09.21 | Hati | hmm |
| 22:09.26 | Hati | mattavich yeah its possible |
| 22:09.44 | mattavich | i guess that is the answer then |
| 22:09.48 | Hati | create a dummy unit -> behavior which lasts 5s |
| 22:09.53 | Sumo- | mattavich: maybe we can copy call support drop mule and then reuse its effects with a behavior->effect |
| 22:09.55 | Hati | expiration effect = spawn 5 |
| 22:10.00 | mattavich | i hate having to embark on somehting like this which could potentially fuck ti all up |
| 22:10.01 | Hati | & reapply behavior |
| 22:10.55 | mattavich | sumo read my thread, this is what someone said about the behaviour for creating units |
| 22:10.56 | mattavich | http://forums.sc2mapster.com/development/triggers/17251-periodic-timer-lag-help/#p10 |
| 22:11.00 | Hati | this way you could also fake a queue |
| 22:11.06 | Hati | using a building order for that unit |
| 22:12.49 | Sumo- | fark, that is one complicated solution to a simple problem |
| 22:13.01 | Sumo- | how could a timer for spawning be a lag problem |
| 22:13.16 | Sumo- | if thats true, then wghats the point of mapping |
| 22:13.43 | Sumo- | but i guess if its a building or something and u want re-use for spawning units, its fine |
| 22:13.52 | Hati | doing this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHHTcSvQQuY |
| 22:14.28 | Sumo- | thats cool |
| 22:16.16 | Sumo- | i'll work on the behavior spawn units as soona s i figure out my dragon breath |
| 22:16.31 | Sumo- | any more clues Hati? |
| 22:17.20 | Sumo- | who sets the damn angle anyways |
| 22:17.25 | QueenGambit | some people saying sc2mapster channel will replace this irc chat. I disagree because people undergoing map edit work (like me) cannot be logged into bnet and editor at same time. Furthermore its quite a hassle to ask a question in the chat channel, exit sc, then click on test map |
| 22:17.50 | Sumo- | agreed |
| 22:18.01 | Hati | sc2mapster chat ingame is more for finding test-subjects |
| 22:18.01 | Sumo- | bnet sc2mapster chan is a fail idea |
| 22:18.26 | Hati | nope no more clues |
| 22:18.40 | Sumo- | aw man :( |
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| 22:19.03 | Sumo- | this is so silly |
| 22:19.38 | Sumo- | one thing i noticed is that two flamers come from the dragons feet, why is there two? |
| 22:19.45 | QueenGambit | where can i find the start location beacon? |
| 22:20.32 | Sumo- | the flame model is singular |
| 22:20.47 | Sumo- | the only thing that connects the flame model to anything is an actor |
| 22:21.10 | Sumo- | so i look at the actor, i cant see anything that could make it two, which field shud i look at? |
| 22:21.29 | Sumo- | maybe that'll help me find the angle issue as well |
| 22:21.50 | Shawn|Rawr | QueenGambit, its in points |
| 22:22.01 | Shawn|Rawr | Then there is a button for start location |
| 22:22.08 | QueenGambit | ty |
| 22:22.33 | Shawn|Rawr | You also have to set the start locations for each player in the PLayer Properties thingy |
| 22:22.41 | Shawn|Rawr | after you place them |
| 22:22.46 | QueenGambit | alrighty ty |
| 22:23.08 | QueenGambit | it was weird cuz the map camera would always start on the bottom corner |
| 22:23.22 | Sumo- | http://i53.tinypic.com/24lotmo.jpg <-- my attack actor... any assist? |
| 22:23.47 | Sumo- | shooting two flames, and perpendicular direction |
| 22:27.19 | Hati | actors mostly have nothing to do with Sideattack |
| 22:27.27 | Sumo- | oh? |
| 22:27.37 | Sumo- | i guess the actor gets applied to an effect, damage |
| 22:27.43 | Sumo- | and so im looking at the effects as well |
| 22:27.58 | Sumo- | i dont think any clues for the direction will be there, but maybe the fact there is two |
| 22:28.16 | Hati | well you could rotate the effect/model by actors |
| 22:28.32 | Hati | but that won't help you as long as it goes the right way (sideways) to the target |
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| 22:28.49 | Sumo- | yeah i tried some rotation stuff but maybe i was doing it wrong |
| 22:28.54 | Hati | have you checked that you've removed the turret in Weapon+ ? |
| 22:28.57 | Hati | not just Turret+ |
| 22:29.04 | Sumo- | let me check and screenshot |
| 22:30.44 | Sumo- | u mentioned the turret alot, couldnt i just add a turret and fix the angle? |
| 22:31.39 | Hati | well could work too |
| 22:31.46 | Hati | if you add something like a straight turret |
| 22:32.09 | Sumo- | http://i54.tinypic.com/xc6f7m.jpg <-- unit data |
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| 22:38.47 | QueenGambit | Does start location always put a building underneath? can i just use the start location as a initial camera and not have any building produce? |
| 22:38.58 | QueenGambit | nevermind |
| 22:39.00 | Sumo- | it shouldnt make a building |
| 22:39.02 | Sumo- | its just for show |
| 22:40.51 | Hati | Sumo-: no clue - seems fine for me |
| 22:43.17 | QueenGambit | i hate having a slow comp; it takes minutes just to start up editor and minutes just to test a map. I guess as long as im having fun right lol? |
| 22:44.15 | Tordy | homebrew |
| 22:44.15 | Tordy | mmmmmm |
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| 22:52.33 | Sumo- | Hati: :~( |
| 22:52.49 | Sumo- | blardy de, stuff just comes out of nowhere i swear |
| 22:58.43 | Sumo- | i attached my weapon to a turret and it works great |
| 22:58.57 | Sumo- | turret as in an auto turret unit |
| 23:03.47 | Sumo- | shimata!!! i think its actually facing the correct direction already, and my model is facing the wrong way lol! |
| 23:04.12 | Sumo- | actually its neither, :( |
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| 23:10.08 | Sumo- | perhaps its still how it attachs to the unit |
| 23:10.12 | Hati | someone messed with Requirement Tooltips ? |
| 23:11.13 | Sumo- | i have used requirement tooltips. |
| 23:12.30 | mattavich | Question: Is it possible for a building to build several units at once? |
| 23:12.51 | mattavich | a marine, a zergling and a zealot, at the same time? |
| 23:12.57 | Sumo- | maybe.. |
| 23:13.05 | Sumo- | even if it did spawn just 1 unit |
| 23:13.13 | Sumo- | u could trigger or behavior->effect spawn more |
| 23:13.35 | Sumo- | but that said, what about the addons for barracks |
| 23:13.36 | mattavich | augh |
| 23:13.44 | Sumo- | that makes two units training simul right |
| 23:14.14 | Sumo- | so yes? |
| 23:14.23 | mattavich | i dont think its doable for my map =/ |
| 23:14.36 | nodgene | I'm sure you can modify the number of units trainable at a time |
| 23:14.40 | mattavich | gonna have to research how to do this behaviour thing for spawning units |
| 23:14.43 | nodgene | but unsure what the attribute is called |
| 23:14.53 | Sumo- | why cant u do it like the barracks addon |
| 23:14.56 | mattavich | well, i also need to be able to increase the number of units too |
| 23:14.58 | Hati | you know a way to step requirement tooltips - like say if you enter nothing ... but with custom ones |
| 23:15.01 | Sumo- | have ditch the requirement |
| 23:15.05 | nodgene | check under the barracks train ability, and then the reactor add on |
| 23:15.19 | Hati | so if you have Level Req 6 & Disabled Double learn (unable to learn spells in a row) |
| 23:15.30 | Hati | to show just one of them |
| 23:16.16 | Sumo- | hmm sorry im too noob |
| 23:16.32 | Sumo- | its showing u both reqs or soemthing? |
| 23:17.32 | Hati | nope just one |
| 23:17.49 | Hati | if you leave the tooltips empty it shows all but with stupid msgs even the true ones :/ |
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| 23:47.46 | Sumo- | man im tired of this shit |
| 23:50.54 | doite | Its hard to make dialog buttons in a certain color.. |
| 23:51.14 | doite | seems some colors are almost invisable while, for ex., green is very strong |
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